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I'm sure the Leftist MRAs will be simply delighted when their efforts help elect President Hillary someday. "Thank you mommy! Can we haz rights now pleze?"
/r/MensRights07/12/11 03:36 AM
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Well, then you'd better thank your lucky stars that the VAST, VAST, VAST majority of men would never do that to you. And would in most cases risk their own safety to fight off your attacker. And if you don't like draconian laws on weaponry, blame Feminism and the State, not men. Because I assure you, average men aren't the one's denying you self-defense measures. On the other hand, this afternoon ANY woman could point her finger at me and say "he raped me." At which time, my life is essentially …
/r/MensRights02/12/11 05:13 PM
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As far as I am concerned you are a feminist troll. You have made several posts reinforcing the mythology that "women" ever had something to fear from "men." Any honest view of history will reveal that in the vast majority of societies, men always had much more to fear than women. Drafted into hideous wars, dangerous jobs, blood feuds, feminist-supported Soviet gulags, etc. I understand that women had limits on their freedoms in past societies. Guess what. So did the vast majority of men. Men onl…
/r/MensRights02/12/11 02:38 PM
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Especially considering that many abusers were abused at some point. Not that that justifies it of course.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 11:00 AM
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True Story: I last lived with a woman in 2005. She had some major problems with general hypocrisy regarding her evaluation of my behavior and denial of her own faults. She was also a feminist and had a degree in Women's Studies. We never really talked about porn because I don't look at porn. One day, she saw me looking at pictures of Asian women wearing swimsuits. Tasteful, not naked, not pornography. Stuff like you'd find in a Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. She had a four-hour long nuclear …
/r/MensRights02/12/11 03:21 AM
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Again, none of that matters because women do nothing to oppose the radicals in their midst. Look at the number of disadvantages that men face in our current society, along with the blatant bigotry. 99% of women either celebrate it, or do nothing. A large number of men have always (historically and today) been supportive of women's rights and opportunities. I am a pretty extreme MRA and I still support equal rights and equal opportunity for women. But do women return the favor and fight against m…
/r/MensRights01/12/11 12:46 AM
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Because I don't see the need to walk on eggshells for the benefit of a gender who has no problem declaring "All Men Are Potential Rapists."
/r/MensRights01/12/11 12:35 AM
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This is completely unsurprising and should be expected at this point. The vast majority of women feel that they are entitled to choose from gender roles like people order off a sushi menu. And regardless of how hypocritical it is, they are getting catered to by our society. Which is why, in this example, men need to take the bull by the horns and flatly refuse to pay for anything of hers.
/r/MensRights30/11/11 06:16 PM
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Golf clap
/r/MensRights30/11/11 06:01 PM
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Men: Stop paying for dates. Just stop. Now. That is all.
/r/MensRights30/11/11 05:40 PM
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I would definitely get a paternity test. Other than that I'm sorry dude, but you're totally screwed. You (unknowingly) impregnated a deceitful, hateful, and selfish woman and you're on the hook for 18+ years of child support. At this point you're going to have to make the best of it. My advice would be to 1. NOT marry her and 2. get a lawyer. Because if you're going to be paying $$$$$ you should also negotiate decent visitation rights.
/r/MensRights30/11/11 02:58 PM
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Yeah I was thinking that too.
/r/MensRights30/11/11 02:47 PM
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There are few larger indicators of female self-delusion than the fact that they don't get this. If men are choosing video games and porn over real women, that is a sign that women are in a serious need of an attitude adjustment.
/r/MensRights30/11/11 02:47 PM
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It is her husband. He identifies himself as such.
/r/MensRights30/11/11 09:19 AM
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Yeah, I took that comment as meaning that's the basics of what men expect from their wives, not what they expect in life. It was very poorly worded. What Suzanne doesn't realize is that even if women make a collective commitment to cooking and fucking we're still not going to take them back.
/r/MensRights30/11/11 09:19 AM
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Good point
/r/MensRights30/11/11 12:41 AM
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Welcome to the forums. We have a whole world of people who think like her... I realize Jenna is not Andrea Dworkin or Jessica Valenti. On her own she is just a hateful and hysterical twit who decided to project her neuroses at her children's school and in a blog. But still, her adamant bigotry facilitates the hatred and dehumanization of men in our culture.
/r/MensRights29/11/11 11:43 PM
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I appreciate your good-natured tone, but you are obviously unaware of what that woman said and did. Read John the Other's recent response to a nasty letter he got from her white-knighting husband.
/r/MensRights29/11/11 09:03 PM
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I didn't know that Rod Stewart was against porn?
/r/MensRights28/11/11 12:58 PM
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It's not just feminists, it's also white knighting and the overall "Man Bad / Woman Good" culture. Female supremacy is so pervasive, someone who does not even identify as a feminist can still have all kinds of supremacist attitudes.
/r/MensRights26/11/11 04:09 PM
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You're living in dreamland. From Day 1 of Occupy, feminists were executing strategies to take advantage. See "progressive stack" as an example. They are purposefully silencing male opinions. Secondly, and this may be off-topic, but the Occupy movement's message is not simple at all. It is convoluted, misinformed, and hypocritical. There is not "one message." Thirdly, I really wish you would stop calling yourselves the 99% because your views do not represent 99% of Americans. And most Occupiers w…
/r/MensRights25/11/11 02:44 PM
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The hotel suggestion is a great idea.
/r/MensRights25/11/11 12:34 PM
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This is the perfect opportunity for a free-market solution. Go on Yelp or comparable sites, and verbally put the smack down on anti-male establishments.
/r/MensRights25/11/11 12:33 PM
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No, feminism is very clearly a gender supremacist movement and there are about five thousand facts to back that up. I'm on my phone right now but if I get to a pc later I will list some. For god sakes, a lot of Feminists don't even support the rights of non-feminist women.
/r/MensRights24/11/11 01:36 PM
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I find myself in the position of being really supportive of LGBT but also tolerating and defending people who don't approve of the lifestyle. Tolerance does not require acceptance or support. And it drives me bonkers when special interest groups claim bigotry simply because someone doesn't support their lifestyle.
/r/MensRights23/11/11 08:12 PM
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Good answer
/r/MensRights22/11/11 02:38 PM
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True. But most people in my family find it unfathomable that any man could have a reason to live without being attached to a woman. It's not really a big deal. It's just kind of funny to think about, how to deflect marriage nazi's without offending anyone.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 02:35 PM
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That's a good one.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 02:33 PM
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I'm in my early thirties. One cousin didn't marry until he was 35 but besides that everyone else in my extended family married in their early 20's and started pushing out babies. I have two female cousins who just graduated high school and they are even starting to get hassled about it. Lots of my relatives actually assume that I'm gay.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 02:33 PM
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Right. But women don't do this, because it would require honestly analyzing their behavior towards men and whether they offer a man any value.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 02:28 PM
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Perhaps. The infamous calls for a "progressive stack" i.e. no men allowed happened really early on.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 01:55 PM
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I don't know, dude. There was co-opt planning articles on feminist blogs within a day or two after all this started.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 01:54 PM
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Actually, OWS is currently freaking out because the vast majority of them are white and it doesn't look good for the video cameras. You could pick up any one of 20 articles on OWS and read about it. If you could read.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 01:52 PM
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Yeah, that's my point. The question women should be asking is "what are we doing that is making porn a better option than spending time with us?" There is also this constant implication that a man looks at porn because he's somehow a creepy addict. Porn addiction is real, but looking at porn does not automatically make someone creepy or an addict.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 03:53 AM
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They co-opted it from day 1.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 03:00 AM
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TLDR : "I supported the sexual revolution when I was hot and desirable, but now that most men pass up on me I want everyone to put on the chastity belts."
/r/MensRights22/11/11 12:58 AM
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I could say that. But my cousin married a woman 15 years younger than him who basically worships the ground he walks on. She's cute too. So Auntie Mabel could retort "Your cousin Tony found a lovely girl!"
/r/MensRights22/11/11 12:37 AM
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Yeah I agree. But Auntie Mabel is an old-fashioned gal, and she wants to sew a tea cozy for your wedding gift. I'm just saying, it's kind of harsh to go full-frontal MGTOW on the oldsters during the holidays.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 12:27 AM
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Children are, by nature, emotional because they have yet to develop the adult ability to reason and be fair. They have an excuse. Neither adult women nor adult men have an excuse for extreme emotional immaturity. "Intimacy with you disgusts me" and "I'm not willing to seek professional help" qualifies as extreme emotional immaturity, and this is what his wife is doing to him. Despite his efforts to work it out.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 11:54 PM
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He has already tried to talk to her. He has already asked her to seek professional advice. She has shut it down every time. Says so right in his post.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 11:46 PM
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He has already tried to talk to her. He has already asked her to seek professional advice. She has shut it down every time. Says so right in his post. I do not suggest divorce lightly, but it seems like he has already made a good faith attempt to resolve this problem.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 11:42 PM
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The core of Feminism is opposed to equality for men. The core of Feminism has pursued, obtained, and holds on to female privilege. The core of Feminism is even opposed to equality-minded Feminists like Dr. Hoff-Sommers. I am not going to claim that every feminist is Andrea Dworkin, but I think the zeitgeist of the movement is much more supremacist than you want to admit.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 11:19 PM
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There has been two articles recently on similar topics around the Web and most of the female commenters said "If the man doesn't want a baby, he shouldn't have sex with her."
/r/MensRights21/11/11 09:50 PM
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Actions speak louder than words. I really don't care how Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines feminism, or what feminists claim their ideals are. I'm talking about the reality on the ground. The reality on the ground is that feminism claims to be an equality movement when it is in fact a female supremacist hate movement. That is what their actions demonstrate. Regardless of song-and-dance about ideals.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 08:16 PM
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Sex is a part of marriage. The only time sex is not part of a marriage is if both partners agreed, beforehand, to marry into a sexless marriage.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 08:12 PM
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Hey, look at his post. He already did that. His wife is shutting him out and refusing to get professional help.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 08:11 PM
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Divorce her. Start talking to lawyers TODAY. It is only going to go downhill from here. And I would not be surprised if she was making plans to divorce you. Its a choice of biting the bullet now, or being miserable for years and then biting the bullet. I assure you, she would not stay married to you if you stopped going to work immediately after marriage. Also, stop trying to have sex with her. The minute she feels you pulling away she might suddenly turn into a nympho porn star to get you to st…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 07:38 PM
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True. I wasn't claiming to present a complete list of Feminist hypocrisy. Just citing a few.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 05:19 PM
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SCUM Manifesto as a high school performance
/r/MensRights21/11/11 05:18 PM
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The goals and ideals of white supremacists are to promote a strong racial identity. The actions speak louder than words. Words are meaningless unless they are backed up with action. Feminists claim to be about equality but pursue supremacy and hatred towards men.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 02:18 PM
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Then you really need to tell Feminists to stop claiming Feminism = "equality for all."
/r/MensRights21/11/11 02:13 PM
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You're making a very common error in judgment here. You feel positively about the Feminist movement, and you want to believe the most positive things about the movement, so you are looking at the whole thing through rose-colored glasses. Feminists CLAIM to be an egalitarian movement, but words are meaningless when the actions show clear supremacism and hatred for men. I could cite about 1,000,000 examples of what I'm talking about, but here's a few examples: The Feminist Movement supported/suppo…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 02:12 PM
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Apparently, this group performs the SCUM Manifesto for schoolchildren and this video was advertising their services.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 04:43 AM
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Don't worry guys! Feminism is about equality! It doesn't really want to gun down all men for shits and giggles. Except for when it does.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 04:40 AM
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The women's fashion, accessory, and cosmetic industry is like 999 times the size of the men's fashion industry. That is not even a comparison. And you're completely dancing around the point I brought up. If unrealistic portrayals of women are bad in porn, why are they not also bad in fashion? And if they are bad in fashion, then why do so many women spend so much money to uphold these unrealistic portrayals? People vote with their wallets. We've been seeing emaciated and airbrushed models in fas…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 04:38 AM
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Feminism, the Left, Social conservative Chivalry, and White-Knights all played a part.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 04:30 AM
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Women don't buy women's fashions? Women don't buy women's magazines? My point is, apparently women want emaciated and airbrushed models advertising their clothes and accessories, because otherwise they wouldn't buy from companies that do those things. So, isn't it hypocritical when women castigate porn from doing the same thing? I understand there are men who work in fashion. The industry is geared to women's tastes and staffed predominately by women.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 04:28 AM
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I agree. Too bad men have no reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 04:19 AM
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It's weird when certain people want choice of gender roles for themselves but go out of their way to force others into preconceived stereotypes.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 04:16 AM
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Actually, this discussion comes up fairly often around the Internet and a significant percentage of the women never think there is anything wrong with it.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 12:10 AM
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My mother has told me dozens of times that I was a mistake.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 12:09 AM
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I have to confess that I only look at porn about once or twice every few months so I can't speak to the different varieties. Though I am aware of the hairless thing among younger men. In some ways it may be a chicken or an egg discussion. Does porn shape male tastes or do male tastes shape porn? I will say that porn is not the only industry that thrives on unrealistic portrayals of one gender or another. The fashion industry, run by women and for women, are notorious for selecting "clothes hange…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 12:02 AM
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Yeah, MRAs present scientific arguments to Feminists all the time and they resort to some logical fallacy or shaming tactic. Example: "The wage gap is a myth, as proven by this and that study." "You're a misogynist!"
/r/MensRights20/11/11 10:00 PM
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Yeah, I am not going to claim Holocaust-level genocide. But when you look at how men are systematically disenfranchised from society and also denied social safety nets, it becomes pretty clear. And let's not forget the hundreds of millions of men drafted and killed in wars.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 09:57 PM
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Nearly all wome (not just feminists) are having a heyday picking and choosing gender roles like they were ordering off a restaurant menu. Strong and Independent, when it's convenient. Helpless victim, when it's convenient. Alpha-chasing nympho, when it's convenient. Virginal LTR seeker when she's looking to settle. High-powered indomitable career girl who simultaneously needs massive support in every area of her life from society. But that's when you remove all consequences and accountability fr…
/r/MensRights20/11/11 09:52 PM
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Tell me how Feminism is not the same as anti-semitism, substituting "male" for "Jews."
/r/MensRights20/11/11 06:25 PM
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Pornography only becomes preferable to real women when a man has been treated like garbage his entire life by women. Looking at porn becomes a preferable choice to getting beaten down and rejected. Porn does not turn men off to real women, real women turn men off to real women. In all the times I've seen people rant about porn, I've never seen them ask "What is society doing that is driving men away from real women?" I might suggest that you start asking that, rather than assuming that airbrushe…
/r/MensRights20/11/11 04:48 PM
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And that is very, very dumb behavior.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 03:52 PM
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We could present Feminists with libraries full of evidence that their worldview is a supremacist fantasy, and they would still rationalize reasons to believe it.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 03:52 PM
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No. I'm really, really not. The calculus is as follows: Some women I meet will be unavailable. Some women I meet will not be attractive to me. Some women will not be interested in me. All three of those levels is going to eliminate a lot of potential mates from the selection pool. I'm left with a small handful of women who are attractive to me, available, and interested. Out of that selection pool, a certain percentage is going to have extremely adverse personality characteristics. Because that'…
/r/MensRights19/11/11 07:57 PM
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Because you're not starting with "all women." Out of all women, there's only going to be some that you're interested in relating with. Even fewer you'll want to have sex with. And out of that selection group you'll have crazies, emotional vampires, and worse. The biggest problem is, the crazy doesn't often come out of the woodwork until weeks or months later.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 04:46 PM
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The very small and dire risks of rape accusations, pregnancies, etc. The very common and annoying risks of putting your knob in an emotional vampire or a crazy succubus.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 03:56 PM
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And this is surprising? Feminism is a supremacist hate movement.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 03:51 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but: Find a BDSM contract online. Print it out. Have her say what she wants (with the safe word) fill it out and sign it. All on video. Videotape or audiotape the sex, in case she turns around and claims you didn't stop when she used the safe word. DO NOT DO THIS unless she agrees to these precautions. If she tries to shame you for it, or acts like a victim for it, dump her immediately. In my heedless youth I had several girlfriends who were into rape fantasies. It got really …
/r/MensRights19/11/11 02:55 PM
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Given the risks involved, masturbation is a preferable alternative than most of the women out there. If you were handed a backpack that contained 9 $1 bills, 1 $100 bills, and 3 scorpions, would you stick your hand in the bag?
/r/MensRights18/11/11 10:37 PM
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Why is it mandatory that I desire sex with every woman in order to demonstrate egalitarianism towards genders? I don't have sex with men, but I'm still pro-male as well. My body, my choice.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 10:15 PM
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Sounds like a plan. Honestly, my heart goes out to you on the situation and I think it's terrific you are willing to step outside of your comfort zone on this. Many people in similar situations would be thinking much more selfishly.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 09:29 PM
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Yeah no kidding. Considering that rubbing one out is more fun than having sex with about 90% of women one wonders if it's even worth it anymore. This guy did something really, really dumb but that doesn't mean he's a rapist.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 07:24 PM
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I really don't know what to tell you. Any man who is accused of rape automatically has serious odds against him. Police and the courts have financial incentive to fuck men over.If he goes to prison, there is a near-certainty he will be raped. I understand this is a difficult situation and I appreciate your honesty. But whatever you decide, just know that a man who is very likely to be innocent stands a good chance of getting raped in the butt for the next few decades.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 07:00 PM
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Don't assume the "cops have no case." There's thousands of men sitting behind bars on the flimsiest of cases. I am not a lawyer, but you could go to the police and tell them what you just told us. Remember that filing false charges is a crime. Tell them that you have substantive reason to believe she is lying.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 05:15 PM
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"So, you're saying that you're a tiny minority faction that's against what the Republicans do, but still support the party, and because you exist, the Republicans are great people... While everybody else are evil, because you say so?" Cato Institute is one of the preeminent think-tanks in the country. They are anti-war conservatives and libertarians. Ron Paul is a major political force who enjoys support from the right and the left. He is an anti-war libertarian. Meanwhile, the Left went from "B…
/r/MensRights18/11/11 03:30 PM
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Understood. I think you're right, it just fries my brain that words > actual tyranny, in the minds of the mainstream.
/r/MensRights18/11/11 03:24 PM
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Give me a fucking break. An occupier shot at the white house yesterday and other occupiers held a moment of silence when he got arrested. An occupy organizer in LA called for a violent revolution to kill the bourgeoisie. Occupiers in Portland and Eugene are stockpiling weapons. Occupiers are vandalizing and shutting down banks and businesses all over the country. Occupy DC abused a disabled elderly woman in a wheelchair. Some of the Occupy Chicago organizers have connections to known terrorist o…
/r/MensRights18/11/11 01:38 PM
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I don't support this bill, and I plan to actively protest it, but I really think you should have been less alarmist and more specific in your headline. Spreading disinformation does not help us take a stance against this. The bill is going after sites that are, quote, "dedicated to threat of US property" Broadcasting/sharing intellectual property that does not belong to you for commercial purposes is not protected under free speech. Now, the reason why I am against this bill is because it can be…
/r/MensRights17/11/11 01:52 PM
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All I know about Savage is that he came up with the "Santorum" which i give thumbs-up to. But I didn't know he was a thorn in the side of feminists.
/r/MensRights16/11/11 06:02 PM
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OMG she is ugly. Looks like a strung-out fish. I would not have sex with Yeater if she paid me for it.
/r/MensRights16/11/11 05:56 PM
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I know you are a very fair and balanced person, so I may be preaching to the choir. But women enjoy near-complete tyranny in the realm of reproductive rights and it's hard for me to have a lot of sympathy for arguments about "framing."
/r/MensRights15/11/11 08:31 PM
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some are good, some are bad. It was the same way over at HuffPost under a similar article.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 08:28 PM
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You're projecting. And you've got nothing but hypocritical MSNBC-style shaming language. President Obama is essentially fulfilling the Bush Doctrine when it comes to the military. He has doubled-down on Afghanistan, followed the Bush timetable on Iraq, and even engaged in his own imperialism in the Middle East and North Africa. (Libya, Yemen, Pakistan.) The Anti-War Right (of which I am a part) has consistently opposed every war the US has gotten involved in in the past 20 years. We opposed them…
/r/MensRights15/11/11 07:08 PM
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I'm actually an atheist so the only sky-wizard I believe in is Superman. But that's some really nice MSNBC-style shaming language on your part. And I think it is dreadfully inaccurate to apply social conservatism to the entire Right. Social conservativism is an influential voice on the Right mainly because it generates a lot of activism, similarly to Unions on the Left. But there are many other factions within the Right that are not social conservative. The supply-side fiscal conservatives don't…
/r/MensRights15/11/11 06:21 PM
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The Suffrage movement was VERY different from the other two waves of feminism. First-wave feminists were pro-family and anti-abortion and many of them were religious conservatives. It is suspect, at best, to connect the three "waves" as one movement.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 06:05 PM
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Bring it on dude. Every time I've discussed this with anyone on the Left, they have nothing but MSNBC-style shaming language of the Right to argue with.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 05:06 PM
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I am aware he spelled "you're" wrong. I was completing his thought, therefore I did not trade the "your" for "you're." So now that you've bested me in spelling, maybe you can explain why you think we're wrong about Feminism's natural affinity with the Left
/r/MensRights15/11/11 05:03 PM
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I am aware that there are some feminists who fantasize that their ideology could survive in a stateless society. I have a lot of friends who are anarchists and they think it's pretty silly. And they've had lots of debates with anarcho-feminists and basically, the fems have to resort to shaming language in about 2 minutes because their argumentation is so paper-thin. Feminism could not exist in an stateless anarcho-capitalist situation because a meritocracy will naturally favor the most intellige…
/r/MensRights15/11/11 04:28 PM
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I would say - "If your a leftist, then your in extreme denial that Feminism and the Left are like beans & rice" but otherwise I agree.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 02:26 PM
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It is on topic, with the addition that ideologues of all kinds demonstrate that behavior.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 02:23 PM
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Feminism doesn't have anything to do with anarchism. Feminism cannot function without massive support from the State.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 02:22 PM
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I had a huge debate a couple of weeks ago with some feminists on that one. Predictably, they rationalized it and waved it off as meaningless.
/r/MensRights15/11/11 02:37 AM
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So true. I'm tall, decent-looking, cultured, and a successful professional. But I couldn't get a date to save my life until I started to treat women like an alpha asshole. And let us point out how many unflattering things that reveals about females in our culture.
/r/MensRights14/11/11 12:52 AM
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That, and it teaches men to amp up their superficial status to the detriment of real status. Superficial status = Getting some shopworn pussy. Real status = Benefits many aspects of life.
/r/MensRights14/11/11 12:23 AM
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"Both are based on the idea of "just being so amazing" that someone higher status would fight for you. In fact billions of dollars and the entire Twilight series is based on exactly that." Yes. "Similarly a middle class dowdy girl has to fight hard to get a rich handsome businessman. He certainly isn't going to work hard pursuing her (no matter what entitled feminists think)." Ah, but the dowdy girl can get the studley guy for one night. Therefore, many of them waste their prime years hoping the…
/r/MensRights13/11/11 11:53 PM
3

GirlWritesWhat...
/r/MensRights13/11/11 11:46 PM
1

Yeah I hear you. In theory, Game & MRA are compatible. In practice, Game promotes a whole lot of male behavior that is making women harder to deal with. That, and the fact that PUAs are as bad as feminists in how they shame other men. At this point I have very little good to say about Game but I can see how, in theory, it could be an emancipating technology for men.
/r/MensRights13/11/11 11:43 PM
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This was one point that came up in the recent MRA vs. Game debate at A Voice For Men. Women are able to get away with a lot of this shit because so many men keep chasing them. As men we need to stop perpetuating that manhood is proved by how many women we've slept with. We also need to help our fellow men realize that women are NOT an endangered resource that we have to chase 24/7. There are roughly 3 billion adult women in the world, far more than men. Women have a lot more to gain from men tha…
/r/MensRights13/11/11 09:35 PM
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One thing that may be missing from this article is the phenomenon of women wanting to selectively follow gender roles, like they were ordering from a menu. "Let's see...I'll take strong and independent career girl, alpha-chasing vixen, and helpless damsel in distress. Then, on my 31st birthday I want to be swept off my feet by an affluent and handsome provider so I don't have to work anymore. Oh, and supersize the fries please, I'm a bbw."
/r/MensRights13/11/11 08:18 PM
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Susan Walsh is engaging in a valiant but doomed attempt to keep that from happening. I give her a lot of credit for her perspective, but ultimately she is a traditionalist who wants to preserve women's (undeserved) pedestal in society.
/r/MensRights13/11/11 08:08 PM
1

Cite sources of MRAs saying that they don't believe a man can rape a woman.
/r/MensRights13/11/11 07:19 PM
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This statement tells me that you don't understand feminism. Feminism is a supremacist movement and a hate movement. Many of the most prominent, popular, and powerful feminists in the world are outspoken bigots. Feminism pursues female supremacy in every area of society. I could spend all morning offering examples, but here's a few: 1. Jessica Valenti, the "poster child of third-wave feminism," wants to remove the rights of due process from men when they are accused of rape by a woman. 2. The "Vi…
/r/MensRights13/11/11 02:08 PM
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This statement tells me that you don't understand feminism. Feminism is a supremacist movement and a hate movement. Many of the most prominent, popular, and powerful feminists in the world are outspoken bigots. Feminism pursues female supremacy in every area of society. I could spend all morning offering examples, but here's a few: Jessica Valenti, the "poster child of third-wave feminism," wants to remove the rights of due process from men when they are accused of rape by a woman. The "Violence…
/r/MensRights13/11/11 02:08 PM
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If one man capable of rape = All penises capable of rape, then if one woman is capable of rape then all vaginas are capable of rape. College logic class for the win.
/r/MensRights12/11/11 09:04 PM
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Victim-blaming.
/r/MensRights11/11/11 01:46 PM
3

Welcome to our world. Now let us show you how deep the rabbit hole goes...
/r/MensRights11/11/11 01:22 PM
1

Unfortunately, men's rights won't start to gain traction until people start to see $$$ in it.
/r/MensRights11/11/11 12:30 PM
1

There is grounds to sue if an employee is using office equipment to facilitate a gender-biased work event, and the company does nothing about it. Especially if the woman is in a supervisory position. (Which we don't know from the context of this email.) If a woman at work emailed all the women using her personal email account, or by verbal invitation, it would not be grounds to sue.
/r/MensRights11/11/11 02:42 AM
1

There is grounds to sue if an employee is using office equipment to facilitate a gender-biased work event, and the company does nothing about it. Especially if the woman is in a supervisory position. (Which we don't know from the context of this email.) If a woman at work emailed all the women using her personal email account, or by verbal invitation, it would not be grounds to sue.
/r/MensRights11/11/11 02:42 AM
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Quote: "The thing about female rape of men is that, in most of the cases, the men were underage - they were not psychologically violated (this one is an exception, and a tragic one). This doesn't make underage sex acceptable, but it does put it in a different category, and takes it out of the scope of what people think of as rape. It's not right, but it's not the same as psychologically being forced against your will. These young men may be considered "victims," but they are not thought of as "r…
/r/MensRights10/11/11 09:29 PM
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They're using company equipment (the computer and email system) to foster a gender-biased atmosphere. I would sue.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 08:09 PM
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I don't accuse all feminists of thinking like this. But it is very clear they do a piss-poor job of curtailing the hate within their movement.
/r/MensRights09/11/11 02:45 PM
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The New Age Movement is the #1 religious vector for feminism in our culture but Christianity is clearly #2.
/r/MensRights09/11/11 02:39 PM
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Because feminism is by and large a female supremacist movement. They will happily use any tool in their power to gain privileges for women, and if it negatively affects men, they're cool with that. And yes i know not all feminists are like that.
/r/MensRights09/11/11 02:23 PM
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Women don't let women rape their students. Or their son's friends. Or the junior high football team. Or the...
/r/MensRights09/11/11 01:45 AM
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Her face just raped my eyes.
/r/MensRights08/11/11 10:33 PM
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Agreed, but women have spent the last fifty years invading every male space on the planet. If a group of men built a clubhouse on top of a toxic waste dump, women would barge in and demand inclusion.
/r/MensRights08/11/11 01:48 PM
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Some women think they are so mysterious and secretive but they're really not. Perceptive men know a whole hell of a lot more about women than most women do.
/r/MensRights08/11/11 01:38 PM
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I appreciate your open-minded attitude. Seriously. But some of us have been MRAs for a long time. I personally have been talking about these issues for nearly ten years. And I can count on two hands the number of Feminists I've come across that are genuinely interested in egalitarianism. I have been told about a zillion times by Feminists that "Feminism is about equality for everyone" and then the minute I start (politely) citing examples of female privilege I get screamed at and called a misogy…
/r/MensRights08/11/11 01:06 PM
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I'm not trying to pull you into something, but I think it is silly to say "all" politicians are chivalrous pussy beggars or female supremacists.
/r/MensRights08/11/11 01:00 PM
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She's doing that so every girl/woman can visualize herself in the role as they read the books. Reading about the girl next door being pursued by supernatural hunks is much more titillating when one imagines themselves as that girl next door. I don't know enough about the books to know what it implies about gender roles, but I suspect Bella is vague on purpose.
/r/MensRights07/11/11 11:17 PM
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Yes, women are strong and independent and victims and not responsible for any of their decisions. All at the same time.
/r/MensRights07/11/11 04:16 PM
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"The Dems seem to be full of pussy pedestaling Communists that are rushing to bring about a Marxist Globalist regime of female supremacy." If you don't like that statement, maybe you should be a little less ignorant and broad-brushing. Some GOP are white knights, some aren't, some go along for the ride. Some Dems are avowed Socialists and Female Supremacists, some aren't, some go along for the ride. On balance, support for the Dems is going to support a Gynocratic "woman-first" position. The pro…
/r/MensRights07/11/11 04:15 PM
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Ladies, if you are a schoolteacher or you're friends with schoolteachers, you can make sure they're not raping their students.
/r/MensRights07/11/11 04:11 PM
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Not every woman is a Feminist, and criticism of Feminism is not hatred of women. It is Feminist propaganda and indoctrination that claims Feminist = every woman. It is also Feminist propaganda and indoctrination that claims criticism of Feminism = hatred of women. Which, by the way, is horrendously insulting to women who are not feminists. Feminists who insinuate complete allegiance of their gender are demanding herd mentality. Which removes agency from women and portrays women as being unable t…
/r/MensRights07/11/11 02:31 AM
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If you are actually beating them, more power to you. However, I would contend that Game actually trains men to enable and reward shitty female behavior rather than beat it. Game is making women more egotistical and self-indulged, and making it harder for men who just want a relationship with a good-natured woman. Examples: Several noted PUAs including Neil Strauss think Feminism is terrific and justified. PUAs train men to look for shit-tests as a hoop to jump through, rather than as shitty fema…
/r/MensRights06/11/11 05:36 PM
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No. It really doesn't take any social intelligence to say "that is not acceptable behavior." If someone were pointing a laser pointer at your eyes, would you buy a $200 DVD set called "How to sleep with that person pointing a laser pointer in your eyes." No. As men, we need to set the terms of engagement with women. And if they don't like it we need to walk away.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 05:04 PM
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No, it's because guys are restricted by societal expectations to never retaliate on women. That's it. Women, as a whole, are not better at this stuff any more than one boxer is better than another boxer who's arms are tied behind his back. Clarification: By retaliation I don't necessarily mean just physical violence. I mean, if a woman shits on us we are not allowed to shit on her in retaliation.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 05:01 PM
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Very true, but there are several reasons the Right is less bad than the Left for men. The Left stands for much more wealth redistribution that favors women. As a white male, I will never be taken seriously by the Left until I utterly abase myself, sacrifice for women, and admit my alleged privilege. There is a significant percentage of the Right that does not believe in chivalry and male disposibility. There is a sizable minority of people on the Right who are anti-feminist. There is virtually n…
/r/MensRights06/11/11 04:50 PM
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That's wonderful.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 04:40 PM
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Why is it our job to care and protect for them when they don't think they need to lift a finger for us? Also, I thought women were "strong and independent?" I know I'm preaching to the choir here. I agree with you, and female hypocrisy just galls me.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 03:56 PM
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Women take after their mothers.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 03:53 PM
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A vote for the Democrats is a vote for the Gynocracy. Though I acknowledge the GOP is scant better on men's issues.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 03:44 PM
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Yup. And when it finally dawns on women just how bad Feminism has screwed them over, they will blame it on men. "Look what you men let us do!"
/r/MensRights06/11/11 02:35 PM
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If a young woman runs away from home and tries to join a street gang, only to be raped repeatedly, should we excuse the street gang for not wanting to involve police?
/r/MensRights06/11/11 02:33 PM
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I understand that income differential does have an impact on why divorce is so financially devastating to men. But one also has to take into account the fact that Domestic Violence and Child Custody still heavily favors women. Also, upon entering a marriage, the spouses AGREE to some kind of division of labor. It is kind of hypocritical when the lower-earning spouse initiates divorce a few years later and claims "You MADE me work part-time/quit working!!!"
/r/MensRights06/11/11 02:25 PM
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Covering up rape, and discouraging the involvement of police, doesn't promote a culture of rape? I somehow suspect you'd feel exactly the opposite if people were being raped at a Tea Party rally.
/r/MensRights06/11/11 12:07 AM
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Awesome!!!!
/r/MensRights06/11/11 12:04 AM
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I'm referring to the traditional female belief that "his money is mine and my money is mine." Women do over 3/4ths of the consumer spending in the US and nearly every retail store (with the exception of sporting goods and electronics) are dominated by women's fashions and accessories. clearly, women are making their own money and getting money from their husbands, to account for the lopsided consumer spending numbers and the amount of retail dominated by women-oriented goods. For the wage gap, I…
/r/MensRights06/11/11 12:03 AM
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Sexuality: I think both sexes deal with this. Look at how many women were fawning over President Obama in the 2008 elections. One picture of him climbing out of the ocean in Hawaii was turned into masturbatory fodder all over the country. Also, women have a tendency to deem unattractive men "creepy" simply because of their appearance. Flirting from a handsome guy is flattering, flirting from an unattractive guy is "creepy." On the other hand, I've never heard of a man calling an unattractive wom…
/r/MensRights05/11/11 02:39 PM
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I think you should stop rationalizing and excusing rape culture at Occupy events.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 02:19 PM
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I left this comment: Step 1: Host a round table discussion on the end of marriage. Step 2: Fail to invite any men to give their views. Step 3: Insert laugh track. In a nutshell, this says it all about why men are eschewing marriage in droves. Marriage has become all about HER. HER fairytale wedding. HER emotional needs. HER money (his salary.) HER kids, which she is guaranteed custody of. HER phat divorce settlement. Hey ladies, it takes two to tango and men have left the dance floor. Time to m…
/r/MensRights05/11/11 02:02 PM
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I don't have any experience in this and I was a wallflower when I was in school. So I don't have much to add except that it's wonderful that you care and you're willing to think outside the box.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 02:10 AM
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We should start posting pictures of men nursing sick kittens back to health.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 01:44 AM
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I think it was an intelligent troll trying to make us look bad.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 01:14 AM
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Smart man. I'm not looking to marry but this is all good advice.
/r/MensRights05/11/11 01:10 AM
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That would be an awesome book to write. "How to find a soutions-based wife." I'd buy it.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 09:13 PM
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Thanks much. I can't wait until I get 20 comments accusing me of being an unfeeling patriarchal dominator.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 04:23 PM
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I left this comment: Emotion and logic are both important to a healthy life. Emotions need to be expressed and acknowledg­ed. But logic and reason must be employed to solve problems. In the above piece, you are championin­g emotion, emotion, emotion. Anyone (man or woman) who only focuses on emotion will find their inner turmoil and external life issues hard to overcome. In male-femal­e relations, it is healthy for both sexes to acknowledg­e each other's emotions. But once that is done, you need…
/r/MensRights04/11/11 04:07 PM
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Aerik would rather see people get raped than make occupy look bad, apparently.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 03:26 PM
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Racism, anti-semitism, and calls to violence should have no place here. I called out "texaswildfires" as a troll on one post. A clever troll, were they trying to discredit the movement, would insert crazy-ass bigotry along with reasonable arguments. So as not to immediately scream "troll."
/r/MensRights03/11/11 05:18 PM
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First of all, I didn't even write the article so I don't know what this "you" is about. Secondly, I think it's telling you're choosing to rant about language when women may be getting assaulted and then told to hush up about it.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 03:19 PM
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I have explained my egalitarian viewpoints to Feminists before and they have called me a misogynist for it. Example: Me: "I believe in equal rights and equal opportunity for all, but no special privileges for either gender." Feminists: "You're a misogynist!" In their view, denying women their privileges is equivalent to misogyny, because Feminism is a supremacist movement and they want to keep it that way. By the way, I love Germany. Was in Berlin for a while last year.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 01:13 PM
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Thanks so much for your help. I didn't see the reply until just now. I'm going to digest it and will write back soon.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 03:29 AM
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You know just the other day my penis magnetism made the cafe barista's hand cut an extra-big rice krispie treat. I'm so glad that us men are equipped with magical penises that make women do things against their will.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 03:27 AM
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First global warming is revealed to be exaggerated, now this? Next we'll find out L Ron was right all along. Operating Thetans Unite!!!!
/r/MensRights03/11/11 12:48 AM
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I'm a conservative and even I'm not too keen on him. Still think this is a hatchet job. Some people are desperate to keep black conservatives out of the limelight.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 12:27 AM
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Ugh, they're both icky people.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 09:43 PM
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Hi, I've been an MRA for several years now. As advocating for Men's Rights publicly has a tendency to get people verbally lynched by angry mobs of bigots, I have pursued my activism covertly through other organizations and interest groups. I have worked with numerous nonprofits and civil rights orgs that work on projects that help men. I have worked on political advocacy for political ideologies that are more open to men's rights. I have donated money to all of the above, as well as the websites…
/r/MensRights02/11/11 06:28 PM
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Ah yes, the good old Hillary Clinton quote. A gift that keeps on giving!
/r/MensRights02/11/11 05:56 PM
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Yeah, I was going to bring up that, indeed, women do not have the right to fight on the front lines in wars. Damn male privilege!
/r/MensRights02/11/11 05:55 PM
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Yeah there was a big discussion about that over at Susan Walsh's blog "Hooking Up Smart" recently. The women over there are relatively fair and balanced so they were arguing that "most" men will still want marriage and relationships rather than throwing shaming language. I'm also looking forward to watching the rationalization hamsters spin when women watch their more open-minded "sisters" fully enjoy the sexbots. "Uh...it's only sexist when a man does it?"
/r/MensRights02/11/11 05:53 PM
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Ding ding ding! You've earned a prize. But see, the thing is, all those women sending white feathers were forced to do that by male patriarchs. (Seriously, that is what one Feminist said when I brought up the white feathers.)
/r/MensRights02/11/11 05:50 PM
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Well, unfortunately it's not surprising. Many Feminists have a long history of throwing dissenters under the bus, even other women and other feminists. And yes I know not all are like that.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 05:47 PM
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Because unlike certain other social movements, Men's Rights actually takes rape seriously.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 03:52 PM
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There is an entire subreddit dedicated to using underhanded tactics to make us look bad.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 03:26 PM
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My recommendation would be to not do it. And I'm speaking as someone who has participated in consensual stuff like this when I was young and foolish. If, IF, he is absolutely committed to doing this, he should have the girlfriend sign a contract (BDSM contracts are available for free online) and he should get her on video, reading the contract, and then signing it. Oh, and I AM NOT A LAWYER.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 02:31 PM
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I like the article and it is very similar to some thoughts I've been Tweeting lately. The problem is that a lot of MRAs have tried very, very hard to find middle ground. And for our efforts we have two bloody stumps where our arms used to be. I have been talking about these issues for several years now. And it really doesn't matter how nice and reasonable I try to be with most feminists, they still go on ultra attack mode. I've been called the most vile things imaginable simply for stating that …
/r/MensRights02/11/11 03:09 AM
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Please list the areas where women are disadvantaged. I have asked a dozen different redditors this, and no one will tell me. Can you help?
/r/MensRights02/11/11 02:56 AM
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The question is, is a fetus a non-entity in the mother, or is it a future person worthy of protection? You're saying the fetus is only deemed worthy of protection when the woman intends not to abort. And if she intends to abort, it is a non-entity inside the woman. Don't you think this is an odd argument? Saying "it depends on intent" requires about the same mental leap as someone believing that bread and wine turns into Christ with the intent of the priest. As a contrast, the following two argu…
/r/MensRights02/11/11 12:43 AM
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I'm saying that there is evidence to show that gender may be, at least partially, biologically determined. Rather than being entirely socially constructed. My personal view is that gender roles, and one's gender identity, have both "nature" and "nurture" influences. Which goes against the feminist "gender is a social construct" theology and follows with the original Facebook discussion at the top of this thread. I think the blank slate theology pushed by certain social movements have been highly…
/r/MensRights02/11/11 12:28 AM
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Yeah and that sucks too. It sucks whether it is world-famous Feminists raping 13 year old girls, female prison guards raping underage boys, male teachers raping female students, men raping women, men raping men, women raping women, or women raping men. Rape is rape, and all rape is unacceptable. Just so you know, just in this thread, I have several feminists rationalizing and excusing rape. Which is precisely the point I was making at the top of this thread.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 11:55 PM
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You are proving my point. Male rape victims are dismissed by the mainstream feminist movement as not mattering. What if you had a dear male friend who was falsely accused of rape, thrown into prison, and then raped repeatedly? Would you say "Stop the presses?" Feminists claim "Rape is Rape" but when it comes to men being raped, and women raping children (or whoever they want), your movement largely doesn't care. Or rationalizes, or makes excuses. Just as you and a whole bunch of your fellow femi…
/r/MensRights01/11/11 11:51 PM
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I am saying that the mainstream Feminist movement gives child rape a pass when the rapist is female. In this case, Eve Ensler and the V Monologues had several performances that celebrated the intoxication and rape of a 13-year old. Yet still, Eve Ensler was able to perform her Monologues to wide Feminist approval and remains a respected voice in your movement. She even spoke at TED Talks on women's issues.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 11:49 PM
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I have never heard of jailbait before you brought it to my attention. I've only been on Reddit for a couple of months and I only visit men's rights and TwoX once in a blue moon. If people were discussing sex with underage kids on reddit, and I saw it, you would have noted my extreme disapproval of that. In fact just the other day I strongly noted my disapproval over a Reddit post that sexualized a little boy.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 11:45 PM
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I understand perfectly well what you're saying. You're saying that if the woman intends to abort, the fetus doesn't matter and is totally at the disposal of the woman. But if the woman intends to carry to term, the fetus is a future person and must be protected from the mother. So, when the priest waves his hands over the bread and wine, it becomes the body and blood of Christ. Right? It's his intentions to transubstantiate, after all.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 11:39 PM
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I think a lot of MRAs acknowledge that the tendency of males to self-sacrifice contributed to our societal problems. As does the tendency of females to feel entitled to being taken care of.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 11:21 PM
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I didn't ask what men or women can or can't do. Obviously there are things men and women can't do. I asked: What rights do women lack? What does feminism still offer our society, given its long track record of favoring gender supremacy?
/r/MensRights01/11/11 11:08 PM
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Cool, that means I'm doing something right.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 10:59 PM
0

Obvious troll is obvious.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 10:59 PM
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Really? Australian researchers have identified a significant link between a gene involved in testosterone action and male-to-female transsexualism...The genetic difference may cause weaker testosterone signals, the team reported in Biological Psychiatry. However, other genes are also likely to play a part, they stressed. Increasingly, biological factors are being implicated in gender identity. Study Finds Genes Affect Women's Sexual Orientation - Scientists at Queen Mary, University of London, s…
/r/MensRights01/11/11 10:56 PM
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Feminist response: "Those weren't men, those were women dressed as men. We were always oppressed more!"
/r/MensRights01/11/11 09:58 PM
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It is a double standard, and it is absolutely a men's rights issue. Some women have the attitude that females should be the sole arbiters of male sexual pleasure, to dispense as they please.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 09:16 PM
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So, the bread and wine turns to the body and blood of Christ when the priest waves his hand over it? So, a girl who enthusiastically fucks guy was raped when she feels bad about it the next day? So, we're all living in a dream world in the mind of the Red King, and when he wakes up, we'll all disappear? Cool.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 07:28 PM
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So the fetus is a potential person when she intends to carry it to term, but the fetus is a non-entity "choice" when she intends to abort?
/r/MensRights01/11/11 06:36 PM
3

Frost has convinced me that Game has absolutely nothing positive to offer men.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 04:03 PM
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If you are pro-choice because "a woman's body, a woman's choice" then I don't see how you can oppose her view without being a hypocrite.
/r/MensRights01/11/11 02:27 PM
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What rights do women lack in our society? What does feminism offer us when it is an obviously gender supremacist movement in our society? I believe in equal rights and equal opportunity, and as such, I avoid supporting feminism because feminism has become a supremacist movement. I can see how women in some cultures in other parts of the world, such as parts of the middle east, may need a feminist movement. But it is debatable whether Western feminists are helping or hurting women in other cultur…
/r/MensRights01/11/11 01:17 PM
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Lol! There is a whole school of thought in Leftist and Feminist circles that gender is socially constructed. It's been around for decades in academia, and it has informed much social policy. I've had numerous debates with feminists who claim that women are exactly like men and the only reason they're different in society is because they're "oppressed." I can see how it would be embarrassing for some feminists to admit their movement is partially based on debunked scientific theories, but here we…
/r/MensRights01/11/11 12:42 PM
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It says "close women's prisons" and "closure of women's prisons should be accelerated" , or some variant thereof in the title, the subhead, and the first several paragraphs of the piece. It is saying close women's prisons, and put through rehabilitation instead. not "rehabilitate in prison." I am saying that clearly female criminals are not taken seriously when their prisons are closed so they can go home.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 11:15 PM
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I'm not that keen on Cain (and I'm a conservative) but this is just absurd. You know that this is exactly the world that Valenti and her ilk envision when they chomp at the bit over "rape culture." It's all about making every man vulnerable to whatever random woman wants to point at him. And I also note the similarity with Clarence Thomas. Again, I am not keen on Cain, but the Left is absolutely desperate to keep black conservatives out of the popular zeitgeist.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 11:04 PM
2

Uh oh, someone's going to get a stern talking-to by the "Sisterhood..."
/r/MensRights31/10/11 11:00 PM
2

So that makes it better? Rape a child, and celebrate it, then cover it up by lying about the age of the child?
/r/MensRights31/10/11 10:51 PM
1

Well, one of your fellow Feminists is citing that exact same McElroy article to show that not all feminists approved of the v monologues. So, I think you all have to have a little pow-wow and decide which feminist to listen to - the child rapist or the anti-child rapist.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 10:46 PM
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Lay off the methamphetamines kiddo. Men are the overwhelming majority of rape victims. Male rape has been called “The most closely guarded secret of American prisons.” (Weiss and Friar 1974) There are estimated to be over 300,000 male rapes per year in American prisons and jails. Meanwhile A United Nations statistical report compiled from government sources showed that more than 250,000 cases of male-female rape or attempted rape were recorded by police annually. The reported data covered 65 cou…
/r/MensRights31/10/11 10:41 PM
5

Well, I'm getting attacked by people elsewhere in this thread for citing some of those same feminists (Wendy Mcelroy) listed in the criticism. Make up your minds! Seriously, this is ridiculous. There would be protesters lining up for miles if a world-famous MRA wrote a play celebrating child rape. And you know as well as I do, it wouldn't matter how much MRAs criticized it, Feminists would be screeching about it for years. But since it's a world-famous FEMINIST celebrating child rape, you all ar…
/r/MensRights31/10/11 10:40 PM
2

So lame. The lady who wrote that article is a prominent feminist, you know. I guess you only want to listen to feminists who write for media outlets you personally approve of.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 10:38 PM
1

From the article i linked- "Women's prisons should close - Women should not be sent to prison and should instead serve community sentences" What part of "Women's prisons should close" is unclear to you?
/r/MensRights31/10/11 10:37 PM
1

He should have called it an abortion clinic instead and been praised by nanny statists everywhere.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 10:34 PM
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I can't believe you're sitting here rationalizing a play that celebrates child rape. Let's pretend a group of men got together and performed "The Penis Monologues" which included a man getting a thirteen-year old drunk and then raping her. What would the Feminist reaction be? And how would you react if I sat here rationalizing it, like you are? You're precisely proving my point on this, that Feminists do not take child rape seriously when a woman is doing the raping.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 02:04 AM
0

So let's say you have a female serial pedophile, who is sentenced to 50 years in prison. You would be okay with her just being let out of jail? Do you not see how that gives female criminals (including sex criminals) a pass?
/r/MensRights31/10/11 02:01 AM
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Oh, don't even give me that crap. The Vagina Monologues was HUGE for several years. Eve Ensler is one of the preeminent feminists in the world. And she is a child rape apologist.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 02:00 AM
1

The Vagina Monologues features "The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could" about a 13-year old girl who is served alcohol and then raped by an adult lesbian. It is called a "good rape" in the play. Perhaps you'd like to explain to me why Feminists love the Vagina Monologues so much, when it celebrates child rape.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 01:54 AM
0

Did you read the article? They're saying to CLOSE women's prisons. Period. As in, release the murderers and rapists and hope they'll do better next time.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 01:50 AM
0

"Ironically, even the revolution in rape awareness in the last few decades has tended to suppress discussion of prison rape. Politically correct feminists defined rape as a crime of gender: That is, men rape women. As with other issues like domestic violence, they resist the identification of men as victims because that shifts the focus from women and brings their ideological assumptions into question."
/r/MensRights31/10/11 01:48 AM
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I don't know, but they've written blog after blog after blog about it. Ferdinand Bardamu and Advocatus Diaboli, among others, are like foaming-at-the-mouth anti-libertarians. If you really dig deep in that website you'll also notice an appreciation for authoritarian statism and white nationalism. They also hate MRAs over there.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 01:46 AM
1

Hmmm, someone responded to the top comment without reading any of the continued discussion. Niiiiiiice....
/r/MensRights31/10/11 01:46 AM
3

Obvious troll is obvious.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 01:42 AM
1

Well, don't tell the crew over at In Mala Fide that, because they are extremely anti-libertarian.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 11:52 PM
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Additionally, women's groups in the UK are lobbying the government to close all women's prisons. Does this not, in process, give females convicted of rape and paedophilia a pass?
/r/MensRights30/10/11 10:22 PM
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That was a very fair and balanced piece. The OP went out of his way to make clear what he was critiquing in the article, and in the comments. But whatever, here's another one: Ironically, even the revolution in rape awareness in the last few decades has tended to suppress discussion of prison rape. Politically correct feminists defined rape as a crime of gender: That is, men rape women. As with other issues like domestic violence, they resist the identification of men as victims because that shi…
/r/MensRights30/10/11 10:13 PM
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Feminists anomalize male rape. Feminists celebrate child rape. "The Vagina Monologues includes a section entitled "The Little Coochie Snorcher that Could". This portion of the play, as originally performed, has been criticized for including a rape scene of a 13-year-old girl by a 24-year-old woman who uses alcohol to lower the inhibitions of her victim.[13] At the conclusion of the segment, the narrator (the grown-up thirteen year old girl) fondly reminisces about the rape, claiming that it help…
/r/MensRights30/10/11 09:46 PM
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You can, but many feminists are not addressing "all" rape. They're singularly focused on the male-on-female variety, while celebrating the other varieties or denying they exist.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 08:54 PM
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I understand that Not All Feminists Are Like This but feminists do a piss-poor job of policing their own movement. The women who want to kill baby boys are often the same ones setting public policy, because the rest of the women do nothing to oppose them.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 08:12 PM
3

Sadly, they are never going to get it. People's attitudes are shaped early in life, and are usually set in stone by early adulthood. Unless they purposefully set upon a course of personal growth, or have a major life change.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 06:09 PM
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No it wouldn't in our current society. All about the woman's choice, you know.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 05:50 PM
7

Yeah this is a great one for the "Feminism is about eequaellitee" file.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 05:34 PM
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They never will. They're too lazy and helpless. They would rather sit on their ass in a society that men built, and talk femisupremacy over the internet.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 05:16 PM
5

Some serious male-hatred going on in the comments. Also a lot of rationalization hamsters.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 05:12 PM
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"mocking, etc." Nowhere in my above post did i deny misogyny happens. Do you know how many times i've been called a creep/pervert/faggot/closet homosexual/misogynist/40-year old virgin/caveman by Feminists simply for espousing egalitarian beliefs? There are two entire subreddits dedicated to ridiculing and shaming men who believe in men's rights. Feminist blogs like Jezebel and Feministe get daily lulz out of mocking men. Google "mansplaining" if you don't believe me. I don't advocate sammitch j…
/r/MensRights30/10/11 03:08 PM
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People who holler about rape culture are very clear it only applies to male-on-female rapes. Male-on-male? They don't care. Female-on-male? He wanted it. Female-on-child? Celebrate it in a vagina monologue.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 02:42 PM
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Fair enough, but you never see anti-prostitution crusaders decrying the plight of male prostitutes or addressing lesbianism. It's all about women, women, women being beset upon by men, men, men.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 02:23 PM
1

Yeah, I know. Women just love those players.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 07:41 PM
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Hymowitz wants every man to be affluent and willing to marry at the command of a woman. She truly sees men as resources, not as human beings with their own motivations.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 04:20 PM
2

I also think 10 years is excessive, and I doubt she gets that much. But at least they're not laughing it up and telling the steward to man up.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 03:34 PM
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Several articles by women complaining about modern men have specifically referenced video games and other male-oriented entertainment as distracting men from dating and marrying. Kay Hymowitz comes to mind as one of the authors- http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html Of course, this begs the question- If Xbox is more interesting to men than women, what does that say about the state of modern women? But no, mustn't question that...
/r/MensRights29/10/11 02:27 PM
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Well, women are right now complaining bitterly that men enjoy playing video games rather than dating and marrying. So don't you think it follows logically that they don't want to compete with a legal brothel down the street? Women have always sought to curtail male behaviors that distracted the men from serving them. That was one of the reasons prohibition of liquor came about, because female temperance groups wanted their men at home rather than going off to the bars in the evening. As i said e…
/r/MensRights29/10/11 02:07 PM
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I'm anxious to hear your explanation for why prostitution is illegal, despite that the illegality makes it more dangerous for everyone.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 02:01 PM
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What makes you think Feminism is the only thing that would want to limit male options for sexual gratification? Women have been bitching and moaning about wanton males since the beginning of time. For example, In 16th century England, female community organizations were claiming their husbands were going to coffeehouses, getting hepped up on coffee, and engaging in sodomy. Women are always against any male pursuit which distracts men from serving their spouses and significant others.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:59 PM
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The American Left is so infatuated with Germany, they should follow the example of Germany's healthy and reasonable attitudes on sex. But nooooo...they must keep control of the men!
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:55 PM
3

I know, that's my favorite fiction book. ;)
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:53 PM
3

Control the menz!
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:53 PM
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Of course. They don't care about the safety of women, they just want to maintain the bogard over male resources. A fair number of feminists support legalizing prostitution, and several countries in Europe have legalized it. I suppose the governments of Germany, Holland, Denmark, and Spain (among others) must "objectify women." LoL!
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:52 PM
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You don't think that women fear having to compete with prostitutes for male attention?
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:49 PM
1

Right. The vast majority of brothel owners, sex workers, and customers aren't going to want to have anything to do with the kiddie fiddling.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:47 PM
2

Oh yeah!
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:44 PM
2

Haha. Yes, damn patriarchy, keeping women from being prostitutes. Even though coincidentally it strengthens female control over men. But, you know, patriarchy. I believe that drug prohibition is designed to deliberately make drugs more expensive and dangerous to control.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 03:42 AM
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If trafficking is a problem, sunlight is the best cure. I'm not praising trafficking, or claiming it is nonexistent. Driving it underground just makes it more dangerous for the women involved. I agree with the female competition part, and that speaks directly to what I was saying about economics. And I also agree religious morality policing is a factor. But not the only factor. In the United States, prostitution was tolerated up until the late 19th/early 20th century. There were multiple brothel…
/r/MensRights29/10/11 03:37 AM
1

This is such a transparent male-shaming propaganda tactic. But every pig has to score his points with the goddess cult if he wants raises for his boys.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:45 AM
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One of my favorite authors, Neal Stephenson, wrote a satirical essay about how all the women in the world run a giant ejaculation control scheme. He did not use the word pussy cartel, though. I'm sure i saw that on another MRA blog.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:39 AM
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Well, we now know from Reddit that the answer to consistent harassment should be consistent stabby. There's your solution. Keep your pencils sharp, boys and girls!
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:36 AM
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Legalize and regulate. Prohibition of vice ALWAYS makes the vice more dangerous. As proven throughout history.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:29 AM
3

Legalize and regulate it, then.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:28 AM
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Well, according to Reddit, this girl was totally justified (and awesome!!!!) in stabbing the boy with a pencil. I guess I could have picked up the arrow and stabbed her in the hand. Alternatively, I could have picked up the heavy plastic bow and hit her wrist. After all, boys and girls are equal, right?
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:18 AM
1

Yeah I had my asshole phase and got laid plenty. But it's not me. Gay is not a choice available to everyone. I am totally open-minded about LGBT and comfortable around gays but I do not get off on doing it with men.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 01:15 AM
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Oh, I'm not claiming to be traumatized. I'm just saying that apparently young boys should feel free to stab girls who grope them, if teachers do nothing. So, any ideas on what weapon I should have used on my assailant? I was in gym class, so I suppose I could have used an archery implement. What do you think?
/r/MensRights29/10/11 12:47 AM
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Excuse me, but the rage comic very clearly teaches us that "many options" need not be explored before we get stabby. So, I'll ask you the same question I asked someone else. In junior high, my pants got pulled down and my ass slapped by a girl. Teacher did nothing. What weapon should I have used on her? And where should she be stabbed?
/r/MensRights29/10/11 12:19 AM
3

Absolutely true.
/r/MensRights29/10/11 12:08 AM
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Illegal prostitution isn't about safety, it's about controlling male sexuality. Sex workers and their customers are MUCH safer in a legal and regulated environment. It is made illegal to limit male options for sexual gratification. It's all about economics. When a resource is limited in availability, it comes at a higher price. A large pillar of our societal status quo is the phenomenon of men busting their asses in order to provide for a woman (his wife or LTR) who in turn provides (often inade…
/r/MensRights29/10/11 12:06 AM
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Oh, cool. So that means the next time a woman gropes me I am fully justified to stab her. Thanks Reddit!
/r/MensRights28/10/11 11:16 PM
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I got a reply over there, too. Some kvetching woman said "Waah waah, you must not be good if you're calling us spinsters." What do you want from me lady? I'm good, but I'm not blind.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 10:46 PM
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I agree. And to be fair, a number of feminists are open to this too.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 09:41 PM
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The right to free speech does not alleviate one from the consequences of irresponsible speech. This is AVFM, a private entity, calling out another private entity (Cafemom) for giving a soapbox to a bigot inciting violence. A Voice For Men isn't the government, nor does it have any government connections. As far as I know, nobody in the manosphere is lobbying their gov't representatives to do anything about it. And if I heard Paul Elam was calling up the governor of New York to have him censor th…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 08:41 PM
1

Yeah when I used to date I eventually learned I had to institute a "three strikes" policy on unacceptable behavior. Of course, I always held myself to standards as well.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 07:11 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 07:09 PM
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Stealing implies non-consent. If a crook breaks into my car and steals my iPhone, he did not have consent for this. She is saying "he raped me" in code.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:24 PM
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Document everything and go to the police. There is a very good chance she's going to try to have you arrested, and it's better if you make the first move.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:18 PM
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She is still playing the victim card. I really don't know why you're applauding this. Stealing is a crime. It implies Levi did not have consent. She made all the choices here, and now she's holding up the pussy pass and claiming victimhood. I do not condone teens drinking or having sex, but it was her choice to put herself in that situation. Using her logic, Levi could claim that Bristol is an accessory in him stealing her virginity.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 06:01 PM
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I left this comment: There are plenty of good men. Our entire lives, women have manipulated us and rejected us in favor of thugs and players. As we have gotten older, we have become aware of the colossal unfairness men endure in the divorce courts. And we are keenly aware that a relationship with a woman puts us at the mercy of a nasty shrew who can have us arrested, or worse, at the pointing of a finger. We, the good men, are out there but we know better than to have anything to do with women. …
/r/MensRights28/10/11 03:55 PM
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There are plenty of good men. They know better than to shack up or marry.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 03:24 PM
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"...and then I continued to date him, wanted to marry him, and tried to reconcile after my mother broke us up."
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:56 PM
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In related news: 20-year old co-ed wears stripper costume for haloween. Claims men objectify her when they look at her.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:52 PM
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I have no trouble believing that every woman on the planet is worth more than you, you disgusting piece of shit.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:20 PM
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The link should go directly to the correct portion of the video.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:00 PM
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I mean, cherished by society. I'm talking about how men are constantly expected to "prove" their manhood but women are deemed special simply because of the vajay.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:42 PM
1

Let's step into a time machine for a bit. Go back to the segregated Deep South. A mob of white men lynch a black teenager for talking to a white female. A local newspaper columnist celebrates it in a column. Free speech does not include the right to shout "FIRE" in a crowded movie theater. Fabian-Weber is inciting violence and mayhem.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:29 PM
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"well for one thing the baby is in the woman, so it would make sense that she has the monopoly on the decisions for such things, the baby is apart of her body and a woman (as well as a man) has the right to decide what she does with her body." Then why does the woman have the right to abandon her baby at a hospital after it's already been born? Or give it up for adoption? It's no longer a part of her body. "As for men paying child support, why (if he didnt want a baby) not use the proper contrac…
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:21 PM
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Yeah, there is a society-wide systematic effort to weaken and shatter men. It never really stops, even when a man does some legitimately impressive things with his life. Meanwhile, women are forever precious and cherished because they have a wet hole and a pouch that occasionally incubates babies.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 03:31 AM
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It seems like you're already aware of where you made mistakes so i'm not going to rub salt in your wounds. All I would add is that if you have legitimate grievances with an SO (you did) and you talk about it in a constructive manner, but she refuses to acknowledge, it's time to break up. It seems like if you had been a little less forgiving, you would not even have moved in together Sorry it happened, man.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 03:27 AM
3

pause the video, right-click on the timecode, comes up as an option. There may be other ways to do it
/r/MensRights28/10/11 02:21 AM
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I don't agree with this guy's politics at all but I do like what he says on a lot of other things. His argument above would have been even better if he pointed out men don't even have any reproductive rights when they're raped.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:45 AM
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magnifique!
/r/MensRights28/10/11 01:36 AM
3

misandry and female supremacist attitudes.
/r/MensRights28/10/11 12:30 AM
1

Understood. But I bet law enforcement would have been less flippant if you were a woman.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 03:40 PM
0

Agreed. We're still being way more fair and balanced than feminists have ever treated us.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 03:39 PM
2

I will do some kickass karate-chopping during my workout tonight in honor of your nickname.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 12:54 AM
2

I don't know whether you should register her or not. But we are specifically talking about bigotry here. Harrassment and stalking is a crime. You should have gone to the cops.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 12:24 AM
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"I didn't know that female sexual predators were so prevalent" is ignorance. "My intuition tells me no dads should ever be allowed to take girls to the bathroom, because everybody knows all pedophiles are men" is bigotry. "I wish I had the courage to cut dude's penises off" is bigotry.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 12:22 AM
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Reasoning adults aren't victims of the beliefs they choose to abide by. Bigots have the choice to be a moral and fair person; they choose differently. When logic and reason fail, pain is the only teacher we have. We do not condone violence in the MRM, therefore we ensure actions have painful consequences to one's reputation. It's also a public service: For example, who would hire a woman as a babysitter if she was talking about mutilating genitals all over the internet?
/r/MensRights27/10/11 12:19 AM
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Try getting a job when HR at the average corporation Googles your name and sees "Rapist" "Murderer" "False Rape Accuser" or "Bigot" associated with it. Not only that, but men who may want to date these women in the future will know what they're getting into.
/r/MensRights27/10/11 12:14 AM
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Society-wide bigotry leads to criminality. If a man is perceived as less-than-human and/or "deserves it" than those who wish to commit criminal acts will feel more comfortable letting their demons out to play. Again, look at the example of lynching black people. Would the KKK have gotten so huge, and been so politically connected, if the attitudes of a fair number of Americans did not encourage it? Jessica Valenti wants men to be prosecuted as guilty-until-proven-innocent when accused of rape by…
/r/MensRights27/10/11 12:12 AM
1

Schrodinger's ass slap.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 10:41 PM
1

I don't support AA for anyone, but I especially don't support it when it serves as yet another funnel of tax dollars into woman's pockets. Black men, more than any other major demographic, face the most discrimination. And I think they're realizing their interests aren't being served by the female-centric mainstream left.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 08:05 PM
1

I was groped, right on my crotch area in college by a girl I had never even met before. Also, one time at a previous job a middle-aged lady gave me a "hug" which was more like a 10-second boob and labia grind against my body. She had a cool, decent-looking husband too so that was weird.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 06:19 PM
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I left this comment- Why are you spending any money on her at all on the first date? Modern women declare minute by minute how strong and independent they are. In most cities young women outearn their male counterparts by a significant degree. Why doesn’t she go dutch? Why doesn’t she pay for you? We need to put away this “Chinese Menu” of modern gender roles, where women can pick whatever role suits them at the time, while demanding the man do it 1950′s style. Equality, baby! If a woman is wort…
/r/MensRights25/10/11 04:59 PM
4

An organized team of female supremacists downvotes everything that gets posted in men's rights.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 03:05 PM
0

What do the non-insane ones do to moderate the movement?
/r/MensRights25/10/11 02:15 PM
0

If feminism took all the strawman arguments and double standards out of their ideology they'd be made speechless.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 03:17 AM
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You know as well as I do that feminism portrays women as morally superior and men as perpetual oppressors.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 03:15 AM
2

You really need to have seen her dozen or so comments under her first article. Stuff coming out of her mouth would have made Andrea Dworkin blush. Over and over again, she accused reasonable men and women of basically trying to have her daughter molested. She was profane and unhinged and she went on and on for DAYS.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 03:08 AM
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You really need to have seen her dozen or so comments under her first article. Stuff coming out of her mouth would have made Andrea Dworkin blush. Over and over again, she accused reasonable men and women of basically trying to have her daughter molested. She was profane and unhinged and she went on and on for DAYS.
/r/MensRights25/10/11 03:06 AM
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For several days, she wrote comment after comment about how her female intuition told her only men are kiddie fiddlers, trumping logic, reason, fairness, truth, or the actual safety of children. She then wrote a second blog claiming that only male perverts were against her, and that we were somehow threatening her family. First of all, she got a lot of criticism from women too. And second of all, she implicated all critics of her intuition as being violent pervert lobbyists. the sum total of her…
/r/MensRights24/10/11 11:34 PM
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Why, you horrible misogynist! Here, let me fix this so it says exactly what they want to hear- "Women, it's your choice to get married and have kids. You should not have to choose between having a successful career and having kids. You have a vagina, therefore society owes you a successful career while fully paying for your child care. You are already given paid maternity leave in most first world countries for a choice you made at the expense of your employers and colleagues, and that's simply …
/r/MensRights23/10/11 10:34 PM
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There is a team of female supremacists who downvote nearly everything on r/mensrights. They're kind of like gnats buzzing in our ears.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 10:26 PM
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Sure, here's a few rights and privileges- Women can falsely accuse men of rape, be granted full anonymity, as well as a likelihood of getting off scott-free even after she is proved false. Women can batter her husband, and if the police show up, they are required to arrest him. Women also enjoy a network of domestic violence shelters that mostly deny help to men. Any scholarship available to men is required to have a corresponding one available to women, yet women also enjoy many female-only sch…
/r/MensRights23/10/11 08:37 PM
4

Ultimately I guess I consider myself an egalitarian. but men are so severely disenfranchised now, while women enjoy tons of rights men don't. We need to reduce female privilege at the same time we stop disenfranchising men. Egalitarianism is too easily co-opted by feminists who claim to be about equality but really aren't.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 12:21 PM
2

The best thing about this, is that it makes it "safer" for men to talk about it if women talk about it. Yes that is fucked up but its the reality on the ground.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 02:24 AM
1

She may be naive about what "the sisterhood" is probably going to do to her.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 02:22 AM
2

Yes, I agree with all of this. This is probably the female version of an allergic reaction to the red pill.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 02:14 AM
4

When I started reading this article, and discovered she had included quotes from actual MRAs, I fainted. When I came to, I put a bandage on my forehead, and then pinched myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming. Great article.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:50 PM
2

Good to see you've been listening to Hillary Clinton on this one.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 02:21 PM
8

That's ok, modern strong and independent women don't want to marry either. Except for when they do.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 10:16 AM
15

If a man puts up with this shit from a woman he deserves everything he gets.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:32 AM
11

Men experienced horrific shame and ridicule, at home and in society, if he did not provide for his family however he could. Also, in many societies men were forced at the point of a gun to do these jobs. In work camps, and soforth, such as the feminist-approved Soviet Union. Also, slightly off-topic, but hundreds of millions of men were drafted, forced to fight in wars, and killed, while their wives sat at home.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 12:06 AM
0

I have this hazy image in my head of Jenna and Men's Rights folks, sitting in nursing homes, 40 years from now, still arguing about this stuff.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 11:49 PM
1

This is feminist propaganda. Get that shit out of here. MOST men and women throughout history have been ruled over by the ruling class. BOTH genders experienced hardships as a result. Men were expected to fight in wars and die, or work in extremely dangerous jobs and die. Women lacked the rights afforded to some males.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 11:12 PM
2

Believing in equal opportunity and equal representation under the law does not = believing men and women are the same.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 11:10 PM
1

Awww...thanks. It was one way I thought of to communicate egalitarianism.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 07:55 PM
2

Male rape victims are financially liable for any baby that comes of it. Upheld by courts all over the us.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 05:15 PM
2

Moderators are heavily censoring comments at this article. I have posted two fair and balanced replies so far and neither have been posted. On the other hand, it looks like some female supremacists have no trouble posting their jibber jabber.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 03:24 PM
1

The more she sticks her foot in her mouth, the more her online rep is going to be ruined forever. MAybe she can get a job someday with the moral panic police, or the feminist lynch mobs.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 01:57 PM
1

Yay!
/r/MensRights21/10/11 01:56 PM
6

Very solid article.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 01:55 PM
1

I hope she does stop blogging. Our posts on her will gain more traction that way. Years from now, this tyrant is still going to show up as a bigot every single time someone googles her name.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 12:35 PM
2

I support LGBT strongly but I also support your right to choose otherwise. Intolerant people preaching tolerance is called "repressive tolerance" and it is a deliberate rhetorical tactic to unfairly frame certain people as bigots.
/r/MensRights21/10/11 12:04 AM
1

This disgusting, unapologetic bigot is also a coward. She took down the post!
/r/MensRights20/10/11 10:14 PM
5

A significant number of rape & dv crisis centers take taxpayer funds under the premise they help both sexes, but in fact deny help to men. So Feminism is profiting from claims of being gender-neutral when they are in fact gender supremacist. Also, thank you for proving, in your own words, that the oft-repeated claim "feminism is for everyone" is a lie.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 11:29 AM
-1

Let's pretend Michelle Bachmann was giving a speech against abortion. And in this speech, she said "I wish Pro-choicers had some notion of what it's like to have your skull crushed by calipers and your body cut out of your mother's womb." Are you cool with that?
/r/MensRights20/10/11 02:17 AM
0

Let's pretend Michelle Bachmann was giving a speech against abortion. And in this speech, she said "I wish Pro-choicers had some notion of what it's like to have your skull crushed by calipers and your body cut out of your mother's womb." Are you cool with that?
/r/MensRights20/10/11 02:17 AM
-2

Listen to it again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZXAv4O5NC8w#t=38s "a gun...or a 200 pound man standing over you, telling you to submit...."
/r/MensRights19/10/11 11:01 PM
-1

Yeah, not really. Let's put it another way "I wish John Doe's arm would get sawed off in a logging accident so he had some notion of what it was like to be an amputee."
/r/MensRights19/10/11 08:58 PM
5

I hear you, but the only way we're going to see change is when the pain of the status quo is worse than the pain of changing. Call it tough love or spite, but we need to stop rescuing people from the bed they've made.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 03:15 PM
4

Are you sure a man didn't oppress you into saying that? ;) Thanks for the support.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:49 PM
2

Leave it to the feminist tyrants to ally themselves with Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. Responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people. Millions massacred. Grrl Power!
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:09 PM
0

Leave it to the Feminists to recycle imagery from Communist propaganda posters. Good work Comrades!!!!
/r/MensRights19/10/11 12:07 PM
32

The patriarchal power saw oppressed the wife into doing that.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 04:07 PM
-1

Reading through this thread, I am utterly amazed that men are stupid enough to touch women they work with. I'm also really dismayed that the comment thread is all "workplace sexytime" when every one of these women know very well they could claim victim status at the drop of a hat.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:32 AM
3

It isn't fucked up, it's a very normal sexual response. Triggers a lot of significant things in the hindbrain.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:29 AM
1

Yup.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:27 AM
2

It's crocodile tears. She is getting real pushback for the first time in her life so she is finding an area in which she can appear more moderate.
/r/MensRights18/10/11 10:26 AM
4

Why did Marxists and Communists financially and philosophically support Feminism throughout the 20th century?
/r/MensRights17/10/11 08:52 PM
1

I'd love to hear your reaction to Kay's article.
/r/MensRights17/10/11 08:50 PM
0

This is also my experience. Honestly, I know lots of Muslims, and the only way I perceive them to be different is that their families are kind, polite, well-adjusted, and successful. No wonder feminism hates Islam so much...
/r/MensRights17/10/11 08:46 PM
-1

Feminists have a long history of considering any other lifestyle choice other than their own evidence of misogyny, patriarchy, or oppression. Working mom = Approved by feminism Stay-at-home mom = Oppressed, unenlightened throwback Man who provides for his family = Approved by feminism Man who provides for his stay-at-home wife and kids = Oppressive patriarch Woman who sleeps with a lot of guys = Empowered hero Woman who sleeps with a lot of guys for gifts & extravagant dates = Empowered hero Wom…
/r/MensRights17/10/11 08:44 PM
15

Given that we have no control over what white supremacists link to in their own subreddit, what does this have to do with us?
/r/MensRights17/10/11 01:09 PM
-6

I thought of one: Men can pee while standing up! Patriarchal domination! Women: oppressed by mother nature throughout history...
/r/MensRights17/10/11 12:41 PM
4

You know, patriarchy and stuff.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 11:27 PM
2

If I lived in Seattle I'd go to her restaurant and heckle her for being a bitch.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 09:08 PM
2

The issue is, that men can barely go a day without being bombarded by 10 messages calling them abusers and rapists. And the same people who broadcast those messages, go out of their way to deny and hide the reality of female sex predators.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:31 PM
2

As you are obviously a rider of the short bus, let me explain to you in simple terms. I said "Acknowledge that every woman is a potential paedophile and child abuser" because it is the exact same tactics that feminists use to put men on the defensive. And judging from your jibber-jabber elsewhere in this post, it's working.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:29 PM
0

Show me where I am advocating rape of women, or making rape of women acceptable.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:26 PM
2

This is a totally fair point. I used the term "child rape culture" because Barbara Kay's article was specifically referring to women abusing and raping children and teens. I didn't mean to minimize the larger problem adult males being raped. That is an issue I've spoken against frequently. ;)
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:24 PM
-3

I hear you, I really do. I might be naive, but sometimes i think if we make people look in a mirror some of them will reconsider.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:21 PM
-10

Please provide examples of the areas of society that are more beneficial to men.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:19 PM
3

This is very common. Plenty of mothers are willing to sacrifice their sons to "the sisterhood."
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:18 PM
4

I personally think it's great this grotesque human being is speaking for feminism and the left.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:17 PM
8

Yes, let's make sure we redistribute the wealth of evil men to oppressed women. /s
/r/MensRights16/10/11 05:16 PM
-2

I think we're on the same page. But I don't feel it's wrong to use their tactics against them. I will say, that men have taken many, many steps to fight rape. A LOT more than women have to end double standards about female rapists.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 08:26 PM
-8

Yeah, they're creepy.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 07:42 PM
2

Our matriarchal society has a major problem letting female rapists get away with whatever they want. And women need to start taking steps to change it, because god knows no one gives a shit what men say about this stuff. I'm using this extreme tone partially to illustrate the problems with "men can stop rape" but also because it's true - women can stop rape by changing the child rape culture they've helped foster.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 07:29 PM
13

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues Yes, they had a monologue celebrating a lesbian raping a female teenager and got butthurt when a male criticized them for it.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 07:22 PM
19

Yes. The Vagina Monologues promotes child rape culture.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 06:48 PM
-1

Don't be a part of child rape culture. Women Can Stop Rape!
/r/MensRights15/10/11 06:31 PM
2

i have personal experience with this and my heart goes out to you.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 04:22 PM
2

New slogan for the fembots: "Women can stop rape!"
/r/MensRights15/10/11 04:21 PM
1

Which goes right to Kay's conclusion that Feminism dehumanizes women. (Though I prefer to point out that Feminism instills permanent childhood in women.)
/r/MensRights15/10/11 04:19 PM
-5

Big surprise. The Female Supremacist Manboobz glorifies in female evil and endorses rape. Addendum: Fembots downvote brigade = More female supremacists endorsing rape.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 03:21 PM
1

Then the hotel loses business, because the man will go to another hotel. There is no hotel shortage these days, especially since business travel is down.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:02 PM
1

good point.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:01 PM
0

You know what, I've spent most of my adult life making reasoned, gentle, and balanced arguments defending men's rights and I still get called names not proper for repeating in polite company. We will be hated no matter what we do. We might as well embrace our lot.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 01:53 AM
3

If most men didn't insist on being such pussywhipped milquetoasts, we could easily have hotels install male-only floors staffed by lingere models and equipped with a cigar lounge.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:48 AM
5

I agree with what you say, but the hotels are just following the money. The best response would be to boycott hotels / hotel chains that do this. From what I understand the women-only floors often cost more money and come supplied with makeup and hair curlers or whatever.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:39 AM
13

You're fucked. Even if she did rape you (she did) it doesn't matter because Feminist governance does not believe men have any reproductive rights. You will still be responsible for the child.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:31 AM
3

I saw an article written by a woman who is really against this idea. If I can find it I'll re-post it. Feminist propaganda has scared some women into perceiving a rapist (male=rapist of course) around every corner. And when they're in a strange town, on business or whatever, it helps them rest easy to know no rape-y penises will come near them in the hallway of a posh hotel. It honestly doesn't bother me, because the hotel isn't denying access to any hotel services to males and they can stay in …
/r/MensRights15/10/11 12:20 AM
3

I celebrate this, because it is ludicrous enough to even make some men in the general public think twice about marriage.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 10:13 PM
36

She consented at the time, willingly. You did not rape her.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 02:12 PM
2

Find a counselor, find a lawyer, stop having sex, document everything. On video if possible.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:04 PM
-2

Just tell me whether you think mainstream media accurately represents men's rights, feminism, and gender roles. This is not rocket science.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:07 AM
2

I understand where you're coming from. You should not have to defend your preference. There is tolerance and there is repressive tolerance, and the "What does your preference matter" crowd are veering toward the latter.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:03 AM
-1

If you feel men's rights is being sufficiently covered in the mainstream media, you are a bigger nutbar then the loudest Birther on WND.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 12:58 AM
1

I think you should politely beat them with statistics. This link covers a lot of areas you illustrated. http://www.avoiceformen.com/mission-and-values/about/ Also consider checking out Dr. Warren Farrel's books and Dr. Christina Hoff-Sommers books. Both of them have written on education extensively. There are also a whole bunch of new studies showing just how far men are falling behind in secondary education.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 12:03 AM
-1

Show me all the mainstream media that accurately covers the sorry state of gender relations and misandry. Hmmmm?
/r/MensRights13/10/11 10:07 PM
2

The lady who wrote this article probably doesn't care if black or latino boys go to school or know their fathers. Often, people obsess on political correctness to mask deep-seated bigotry.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 08:10 PM
0

LoL at all the comments bashing WND. WND may run "birther" articles but that is way less disturbing or destructive than the typical "Man Up" articles we get from the mainstream. I'd like to see any of you offer a rational explanation for why other media outlets are genuinely better than WND.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 05:37 PM
1

Well, that's your choice, but I like being able to drop the soap in the shower without fear.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 05:15 PM
3

Well see, that's the double standard I'm talking about. I could play good, hard basketball with a bunch of guys and be considered completely above board. But play the exact same way with co-eds, if one gets butthurt, then i'm suddenly a woman-beater. I might agree with you in contact football or rugby. But Zeta's article doesn't specify those sports.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 04:20 PM
2

I used to play pickup basketball regularly, sometimes in co-ed situations. I performed a perfectly acceptable box-out to get a rebound. A woman behind me ran into my backside, bounced off, fell on the ground, and started screeching like I had just deliberately broken her nose. She claimed that I elbowed her (I didn't, she did not even touch my elbow) and that I threw her to the ground (How could I do that, my back was to her) I got swarmed by four men and one other women pushing me and threateni…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:57 PM
7

If you want to get even more depressed, read the comments. It's like watching 600 rationalization hamsters chew up a lion in the african savannah.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:29 PM
2

This is so, so naive. It is jarring how naive this is. In a saner world, what you're saying would have truth to it. But that is not the reality on the ground. In a sports situation, a woman has the ability to transform from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to Helpless Victim in about 2 seconds flat, and everyone will defend her. In a violent situation, men do not have a right to defend themselves. Men have gone to prison for doing so. Under VAWA (Violence Against Women Act) you are assumed the aggressor…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 01:59 PM
-2

Cool article. Hopefully will prove helpful in outreach.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 03:36 AM
7

Understandable. So when it turns into something more, it should be disclosed. I don't mean to lecture, but part of being in a healthy adult relationship is honesty. If dishonesty is required to maintain a relationship, it's just going to lead to disaster anyway.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:22 AM
3

It's a trust issue. I would make a point of being honest with my partner about something like that and I'd hope the favor would be returned. That's why I say in an instance of casual sex, disclosure may not be as necessary as in a relationshhip.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:18 AM
2

"Is it common for women on their periods to leave a mess so that other patrons in the restaurant have to clean up the girls blood before using the toilet?" Actually, things like that used to happen on occasion at several restaurants I worked at when I was younger. Also, used tampons and pads would just be thrown on the floor of the bathroom. So by your logic, women on their periods should be banned from using the unisex bathroom. After all, it's just so patrons can go to the bathroom without enc…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:16 AM
4

Right. Where in the OP's post does it say anything about annarchist? And, I really have no idea what you're referring to anyway? Anyone advocating violence (except in self-defense) is going to get booed by me. Violence is the tool of idiots, such as Feminists and White Knights supporting VAWA. P.S. You really need to stop letting the drool coming out of the corners of your mouth weigh down the keys on your keyboard.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:11 AM
2

That's a bunch of bigoted nonsense. You should be really proud.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 02:06 AM
10

Yeah, I hear you. The problem is, most Feminism insists on a Manichean view of reality (men always oppressors, women always oppressed) regardless of how much history, facts, and logical reasoning you put in front of them. And they act on that percieved reality through legislation, lobbying, voting, grassroots, and the arts. I have worked with Feminists before on non-gender related issues and I would happily work with them again, but it's not going to happen if they continue to insist that the sh…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 12:03 AM
8

Well, it's hard to know without being specific. But for example, I can tell you that people who have been MRAs for any length of time are REALLY suspicious of people who come here and tell us we should team up with feminists, and that's for a really good reason. Only a handful of feminists (Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers is one) are even willing to utter the words "Men's rights are being violated." On the contrary, everything with them is "male privilege, oppressed women, man bad, woman good." I fai…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 11:09 PM
18

I think you need to be very careful about oversensitivity towards what gets upvoted/downvoted. Virtually everything that gets posted here gets trolled by a whole cadre of malicious voters. And it's already been shown that other redditors are deliberately posting and voting to make us look bad.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:50 PM
1

Uh, no. 1. The person is flat-chested. 2. The pee stream is depicting what it looks like when a man pees standing up.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:40 PM
4

This is a dreadful argument. First of all, it is not a given that a man wants a fertile woman. Should a man disclose to his partner "I declare my desire for a fertile female, so please inform me if you used to have man-parts." Second of all, what if she is on the pill? What if she was rendered infertile by a childhood accident/disease? Is it rape for a man to have sex with a woman post-menopause? Feminism has already made the definition of rape utterly useless, let's not add to the problem over …
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:36 PM
2

Oh god, you didn't even read the article. The restaurant sign clearly depicts a man peeing, with a big X through it.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:05 PM
1

What do you think would happen if a Vancouver restaurant hung out a sign in their bathroom that said "Women are not allowed to throw used feminine products on the floor." There would be accusations of sexism and boycotts in like 15 minutes. Clearly, I don't want to ban mensurrating women. I'm making the point that this is a sexist action by the restaurant that would not fly if the genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 09:16 PM
6

It's very comparable, because used tampons on the floor of a unisex restaurant are far more of an unsightly health hazard than the occasional dude peeing on the occasional toilet seat. The restaurant is following the tried-and-true formula of pandering to female customers by painting men as pigs.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 09:01 PM
4

I worked in restaurants all through college and the women's restrooms were ALWAYS dirtier. Yes, women seriously went into upscale restaurant bathrooms and threw bloody tampons on the floor. I worked at one restaurant in an upscale shopping mall where a woman took her bloody maxipad out, at the table, and stuck it in her soup. No joke. So, just saying, since we're all pragmatic let's ban women from coming to restaurants while they're ragging.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 08:52 PM
7

To be fair, some of us lived in co-ed dorms in college and the girls used to beg to use the boy's bathrooms because they were cleaner.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 08:36 PM
8

This is true.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 08:34 PM
6

Ok, women on the rag should stop going out to restaurants because their used tampons are unsightly and non-hygenic. Pragmatic?
/r/MensRights12/10/11 08:33 PM
7

Sad Trombone
/r/MensRights12/10/11 08:21 PM
0

So lame. You realize you guys are basically saying "Women are strong, independent, and equal to men, but the slightest criticism makes us shriek like toddlers."
/r/MensRights12/10/11 04:23 PM
3

I don't completely disagree with him. Handling rejection is part of being an adult. But he's ignoring how dishonest, manipulative, and hypocritical many women are in their dealings with men. It is not whining or misogynist to call out women for unacceptable behavior. Women certainly spend enough time heaping the world's problems on the shoulders of men.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 03:54 PM
70

In cases of casual, anonymous sex i'm not sure it matters. In the case of a budding relationship, that kind of thing needs to be disclosed, as an issue of trust. If I was dating for several weeks and then I found out somehow, I would be really hurt that they didn't tell me before. I'd feel the same way if I was dating a woman who waited for several weeks to tell me she had kids, or was married.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 03:39 PM
1

It's possible to support someone while still criticizing arrogance, hypocrisy, and poor judgment. When feminists claim criticism = woman hating, they're basically saying they don't wish to be treated as functioning adults.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 12:44 PM
2

Good point. My religious parents are pissed at me for not pumping out grandkids, but they have grown to accept it as being a single man with goals in life was a respected lifestyle choice in the bible.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 10:11 AM
5

You're right, millions of men dying in wars and in dangerous jobs totally compares to cooking and cleaning. "I got my testicles blown off in WW2...but thank GOD I didn't have to clean the toilet when I got home from the war!"
/r/MensRights12/10/11 03:51 AM
5

So true. Men have been "marrying down" for centuries. But suggest a woman deign to consider marrying down? Preposterous! Crazy talk! The Golden Vagina will not have it!
/r/MensRights11/10/11 10:03 PM
-2

I think that's a beautiful analysis that is true for a lot of women. My best friend's new wife is exactly like that, more's the pity. But I think for other women, it's more caused by gut-level arrogance and preferring to live in fantasy rather than reality. So many women think they're so damn special and fabulous. They really don't know, or care, what qualities a man actually wants. And they think only the prince is worthy of their golden vagina. "There's FOOLS gold in them thar hills!"
/r/MensRights11/10/11 04:10 PM
27

Throughout history, the vast majority of men have had to "marry down" just so they had company, and someone to bear their children. He had to take what he could get. Now that women are supposedly so high and mighty, they still only want to "marry up." Why don't these ticking biological clocks find a decent man, who may not be successful or handsome, but has good attributes? She could encourage him and help him become a better man. But NOOOOO...she deserves better! Lowering standards, what, are u…
/r/MensRights11/10/11 03:28 PM
5

The chickens are coming home to roost for some women, and they don't like it. The problem is that modern women want to "have it all." they want to choose gender roles at will, but demand that men have no such choice. They want to marry the unattainable men. They want access to male resources, but don't want to offer him anything in return. Life as an adult is about choice and consequences. Thus far, Feminism, Daddy Government, and Chivalry have done a terrific job of providing choice without con…
/r/MensRights11/10/11 02:47 PM
1

I hear what you're saying, but I don't think that I ignore the often freedom-less role of women above "The women were mostly expected to stay at home. The men were expected to die in bloody wars and horribly dangerous jobs" I also think we need to be very careful about specifying what religions and societies we're talking about. Even in major monotheistic religions, there were/are very tolerant sects with millions of followers, just as not all societies were alike in their treatment of women. Ta…
/r/MensRights11/10/11 12:30 AM
2

Well-played, rural equality activist, well-played.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 08:10 PM
-4

Awesome.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 05:55 PM
4

Some might think you're joking, but I lived with a girl who claimed that my modest periods of silence and self-reflection were abusive.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 01:24 PM
3

"but only when men say them."
/r/MensRights10/10/11 01:22 PM
10

The biggest justification for Feminism is the fairy-tale that men were always privileged and women always oppressed. An even slightly honest and unbiased review of history is that only the ruling classes of any society had privilege. Everyone else, be they man or woman, were forced to live in restrictive gender roles. The women were mostly expected to stay at home. The men were expected to die in bloody wars and horribly dangerous jobs to, among other things, protect and provide for the women. O…
/r/MensRights09/10/11 10:44 PM
17

This is more misogynist, patriarchal propaganda. Every good feminist knows the world was created when Betty Freidan wrote "The Feminine Mystique."
/r/MensRights09/10/11 09:04 PM
4

We're years away from the stage where we have the luxury to worry about misusing our power.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 08:13 PM
6

Women should be thanking god for those roles, considering they enabled women to chill at home while tens of millions of men died on battlefields and in dangerous workplaces.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 06:11 PM
7

I didn't say she was. I'm saying that "register her" is just another registry among many. And anyway, calling for suspension of due process on a person because they have a penis is sex related, and is highly harmful to society.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 05:03 PM
6

Yes, because no Feminist has ever called for a registry for male sex offenders. LOL!
/r/MensRights09/10/11 04:19 PM
5

Actually, false accusations is something that feminists do. Register Her, on the other hand, requires proof in the form of newspaper articles, coutr documents, etc.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 02:52 PM
4

Uh, no. Children need fathers.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 08:52 PM
3

I agree it is unfortunate but that is the reality on the ground. Men's rights won't be "safe" for men to talk about until women also talk about it.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 07:04 PM
6

And your point is? She said a lot of great things. The host was annoying but mostly agreeable. Thousands of people watching got exposed to some hard truths. What's not to like? If we could get real, articulate MRAs on a national television program even once in a while, that would be huge.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 07:02 PM
13

Finding more women willing to speak out on these issues is the key to getting mainstream approval. Reaching out to men is extremely important as well, but 1,000 male MRAs speaking out is not going to have the impact of 100 female MRAs, at least in terms of reaching the blue pill mainstream. Sad but true.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 04:29 PM
3

My last relationship was with a bi woman who's brother was gay. I used to go to gay bars with them all the time. I always had a good time. The weirdest thing that ever happened was I got grabbed on the butt by an elderly black gentleman, but women have done that to me in bars too so whatever.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 01:23 PM
2

This is the shit I'm talking about when I say that the Left is not the place to be for an MRA.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:53 PM
2

yes
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:51 PM
9

It should bother anyone who cares about the child.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:47 PM
6

And if asked, these succubuses would probably claim they were "oppressed by society"
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:45 PM
2

Awesome. "I'm gonna be a star, a big bright shining star..."
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:37 PM
1

If you think drinking a few beers after work qualifies a man as a "deadbeat dad" you must lead a very sheltered life. The story line goes - woman falls in love with studley man - they settle in a traditional marriage - she's bored and not getting the wet squishies for him anymore - she resents being in the traditional marriage she previously agreed to - she longs for the studley man he used to be.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:05 AM
5

Before anyone loses their minds in paranoia over HPV, the following is from the oral cancer foundation "HPV is a common, sexually transmitted virus, which infects about 40 million Americans today. There are over 130 strains of HPV, most thought to be harmless. Most Americans will have some version of HPV in their lifetimes, and even be exposed to the oncogenic / cancer causing versions of it. But only approximately 1% of those infected, have a lack of immune response to the HPV16 strain which is…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 11:59 PM
2

Do they not teach you about metaphors in cunt school?
/r/MensRights07/10/11 07:27 PM
5

Yet you took the time to write all that, conveniently without any reason why you think it's dumb.
/r/MensRights07/10/11 05:18 PM
1

I agree completely, but also keep in mind that a whole lot of men believed very deeply it was worth dying for. Clearly the present society needs to die and be reformed, rather than us dying for it.
/r/MensRights07/10/11 05:17 PM
1

All true. I think some men denigrate traditional masculinity because they know it is a time-tested and proven form of manhood they can never live up to. So, they compete by tearing it down and positioning themselves as the "alpha mangina" for lack of a better term. I'm someone who got bullied all through school by more "traditional" men and women and I spent several years denigrating traditionalism as a result. But then i realized those weren't men and women, those were boys and girls. So I got …
/r/MensRights07/10/11 03:57 PM
13

"Where have all the cowboys gone?" by Paula Cole captures the cognitive dissonance when a woman's primal nature clashes with a modern woman's feminist indoctrination. She loves the rough and untamed cowboy, and gleefully agrees to be his wife in a traditional marriage. In return he agrees to settle down and provide for her. But after a few years of this, she gets bored, and wonders "where have all the good men gone?" Cowboys. I mean cowboys. An astute commenter named Vicetube (not me) picks up o…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 02:30 PM
1

Fuck. You're right. Man bad, woman good. I stand corrected.
/r/MensRights07/10/11 09:38 AM
-4

If there is underage drinking going on in the bars, report them to the authorities. You might even prevent some false rape accusations ensnaring some clueless dudes.
/r/MensRights07/10/11 09:37 AM
2

Because society wants us to die off as soon as possible.
/r/MensRights07/10/11 02:25 AM
2

Feminist groups fight to preserve female power in family courts. In state after state after state, they lobby against efforts by father's rights groups and other egalitarian-minded folks. So if family courts are the result of "woman = weak" it is Feminism that is the cause of that. Feminist groups also have a history of attacking equality-minded feminists such as Dr. Christina Hoff-Sommers as being "anti-women." Feminism fights for female-only privileges in criminal law, domestic violence law, e…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 02:08 AM
4

The pussy cartel at work.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 11:33 PM
3

I guess the millions of women who watch and look at porn must be cheaters and perverts and misogynists too. Right?
/r/MensRights06/10/11 11:32 PM
5

They're laughing and they're fighting. These four stages don't happen in a step by step process, and there's never a point where one "wins." Look at the sorry state of civil rights for black males, for example.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:15 PM
-1

Blah, blah, blah. Roosh is openly against the men's rights movement. He also shames men who choose celibacy as part of their MGTOW status. Not sure why we would want to celebrate him here.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:12 PM
11

You need to report this. You are not less of a man. You will be a stronger and better man for reporting. Shit like this cannot go on, unpunished. I'm serious about this man. We're all on your side.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:09 PM
5

Feminists have lobbied for systems in family court, divorce court, and criminal justice that empower and support female bad behavior. Feminist social engineering removed responsibility and accountability from women in relationships and marriages. Women are now "empowered" to basically do whatever the heck they want, up to and including cutting their husband's genitals off, and they get cheered on by society.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:06 PM
-2

And other things feminist kool-aid drinkers say to combat the perpetual cognitive dissonance.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:44 AM
2

Agreed. I also think that if these folks are so gung-ho on marriage, they should be establishing some kind of government-free option for couples to be married. Because however well-intentioned, they're pushing men into an unacceptable position.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 01:42 AM
5

I appreciate a lot of what Walsh says, but in the end I know her goal is for men to be under the thumb of women in marriage. I think this argument on bisexuality is part of the conservative female supremacy we've come to expect from traditional women. "If a man sticks his weiner in a man, he is unworthy to breach a Holy Pedestaled Golden Vagina."
/r/MensRights05/10/11 04:59 PM
1

It makes some good points, but traditionalism enslaves men just as much as feminism. All female pedestals need to be removed- both the traditional and the modern-day Marxist variety.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 01:25 PM
2

Check the sidebar, click the link marked "divorce," read it. Stop having sex with her immediately. Even if she is naked and grinding against you. Now is the time when she may try to get pregnant with another child to have more hooks into you. Separate your finances as much as possible. Document when you two talk about in terms of your relationship, your family, your finances. Keep a journal.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 01:18 PM
5

At least we admit it. Feminists have a major blind spot to the bigots in their ranks. And the inherent bigotry in the ideology.
/r/MensRights05/10/11 12:40 PM
-1

No not yet
/r/MensRights05/10/11 12:27 AM
3

This is a very, very good sign. I'm doing a mental happy dance right now. MGTOW and Zeta Masculinity is starting to put enough pressure on the system that they're screeching with their loudest voices. Yes, femocracy. The builders, armies, bodyguards, providers, and packmules of society are giving y'all a big middle finger. I think it's about time you shrews WOMAN UP.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 09:09 PM
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This is a very, very good sign. I'm doing a mental happy dance right now. MGTOW and Zeta Masculinity is starting to put enough pressure on the system that they're screeching with their loudest voices. Yes, femocracy. The builders, armies, bodyguards, providers, and packmules of society are giving y'all a big middle finger. I think it's about time you shrews WOMAN UP.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 09:02 PM
1

"why do they expect a higher standard from us?" Because Feminism is focused on freeing women from all standards of reason and accountability, and conversely increasing the burdens on men.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 02:59 PM
1

Yeah, she's trying to portray herself as a selfless advocate of men, and maybe she is. But I suspect she's more frustrated in her own predicament more than anything.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 10:49 PM
1

I don't disagree, and I considered just going to the article he referenced for a link rather than linking to the above.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 10:48 PM
3

Oh really? Ok. Judging from the stories it seemed like they were giving men's rights a fair shake.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 03:25 PM
2

And, here's a link to the original article. Do check out the comments. It's like an MGTOW convention.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 03:19 PM
5

Is this another one of those groups that only want men to have rights that women approve of first? edit: i looked, and it seems like they have some good content. My bad. I was thinking it was another "Wat about teh mehnz"
/r/MensRights03/10/11 02:43 AM
6

What if the woman is uncomfortable with it? Is she prim and immature? Anecdotally: I'm ok with period sex but most of my girlfriends were appalled by the idea.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 11:58 PM
7

Actually, read the comments. A couple women implied that if it made the woman uncomfortable, she hated her own body. Then, other more reasonable women were like "uhhh no."
/r/MensRights02/10/11 11:56 PM
6

This is a classic example of a feminist manufacturing sexism as a tool to beat up on men.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 11:53 PM
1

It wouldn't be entirely unexpected for misandrists to come to the event, take pictures, and claim we're rapists or paedophiles or something.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 11:49 PM
2

The main hurdle is that there are a whole lot of people who don't believe MRA's should exist, and they have proven they will go out of their way to fuck us over. Examples: Erin Pizzey and Esther Vilar have been harassed and threatened for decades. John the Other of Youtube fame was smeared and nearly lost his job. Therefore, if we're going to publicly identify ourselves as MRAs, we have to be willing to face the consequences.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 09:51 PM
2

According to California law.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 09:41 PM
0

You're right, you have to save all that thinking power to figure out how to get Justin Bieber to marry you.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 08:21 PM
1

Durr! Whatever you need to tell yourself to keep the rationalization hamster spinning in your head, be my guest.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 08:20 PM
3

I think you need to define the definition of rape you're using. Different organizations define rape differently.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 08:18 PM
1

What do you mean? It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it! ;)
/r/MensRights02/10/11 08:08 PM
8

Also remember the feminist psychological theory that men can "compartmentalize" pain and emotional distress. So "it's not as bad for men as it is for women." I'm not making this up, women have wrote editorials in Huffpost on this.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 07:34 PM
6

What if a man is blackout drunk, and a woman forces herself onto him? Rape. And if you deny it, you're contradicting decades of feminist dogma.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 07:31 PM
0

I was recruited to work for a company in Duluth and I turned it down partially because the college there originated this travesty. I heard there are also roving gangs of white knights that patrol the streets to "defend women."
/r/MensRights02/10/11 06:38 PM
3

As said by others, mothers already have the right to a financial abortion provided by safe haven laws.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 06:29 PM
1

Why is this misogynist? If women are open to pairing with their comparative equals, they will be more likely to make long-term commitments. Men, too, by the way. Is that so controversial? Save your accusations of misogyny for examples of REAL misogyny, or people will realize you're just using your gender victim mentality as an excuse for being stupid.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 01:15 PM
2

Attractiveness is only empowerment for women because men are too weak in our culture. In a culture with well-balanced men, a woman's attractiveness would have no impact on her ability to rise in the working world. Rather, her work ethic and her mind would hold sway. When I see an attractive woman, my thoughts are "Ok, you're hot. So what. What else you got?"
/r/MensRights02/10/11 01:11 PM
2

I guess I should just tell you what you want to hear. "Go ahead and chase after the most unattainable men you can find, ladies! YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL!"
/r/MensRights02/10/11 12:57 PM
2

Because it's a glaring NAFALT excuse, made even more absurd by Feminism's decades-long denial of female-on-male abuse, female sex offenders, and female child abusers.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 12:37 AM
4

Then why do feminists still support the Violence Against Women Act, when it very clearly discriminates against the male gender, despite that men and women commit roughly equal amounts of domestic violence? Explain, please.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 10:52 PM
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I agree that both parties are basically worthless on men's rights. But one party very obviously privileges feminism. And I can give you two examples off the top of my head. Under Democratic administrations we are seeing oceans of taxpayer dollars flowing to social welfare, feminist causes, and female-dominated industries (gov't, healthcare, education) Under a Democratic administration we see a "wise Latina" ride the pussy pass all the way to the Supreme Court, along with a Gynocrat who does not …
/r/MensRights01/10/11 05:23 AM
2

"Men" are not getting sex cheaper than ever, desirable men are. Average and below-average men are getting much less sex than they have in the past, because many women are directing all their affections at the top men. Women could have sex with a FAR greater chance of commitment, if they were willing to lower their outrageous standards and look for their "equals" in the sexual marketplace.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 01:11 AM
2

Yeah, this article has a distinct aroma of Victorian notions on the female sex drive.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 01:04 AM
1

Clearly, you have never seen little boys playing "swords" with their urine streams. ;) But seriously, good point.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:55 AM
2

Indeed. Next, we must remind the world that Prego is not spelled the same as the British slang for a pregnant lady.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:30 AM
2

Fair enough. I will edit.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:11 AM
4

Dear Men, Feminism is not anti-male. As long as you ignore VAWA, divorce court, family court, double standards on gender roles, double standards on rape, IMBRA, feminist condoning of male circumcision, educational discrimination, employment discrimination, Title IX, and denial of male reproductive choice, feminism is about equality. If you disagree, you're a misogynist, you live in your mother's basement, and you have a small penis. Love, Feminism.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 12:10 AM
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Guys, just remember. Feminism isn't a right or a left issue. (Heavy Sarcasm)
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:46 PM
2

Ragú (the storebought sauce) is ketchup with sugar, garlic, and oregano.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:36 PM
0

I agree, and that's why it's our responsibility to set the standards. If she doesn't like them, she can find some other man. A virtuous man will set fair standards that are beneficial to both him and the woman, of course.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:29 PM
3

This man is a disgrace to humanity. I never thought an extremist conservative White Knight and an extremist Radical Feminist could inhabit the same body, but "Voila!"
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:26 PM
3

You really need to stop choking yourself while you masturbate, because the oxygen depletion is affecting your reading comprehension. The article was written by an Austrailan journalist, thus we are merely quoting from the article. If you don't like the rotting corpses thing, take it up with the newspaper. Had you actually read the article, you would notice the writer is actually a Traditionalist White Knight who speaks highly of feminism in parts of the article. You and he could be best friends,…
/r/MensRights30/09/11 11:25 PM
2

-Explain the Violence Against Women Act, a feminist policy granting major privilege to one gender despite that both genders commit domestic violence at roughly equal rates. -Explain how a man can be raped by a woman, and he is still fully responsible for child support. A policy supported by feminists. -Explain to me why feminist groups routinely call for women to receive lesser, or no, criminal punishment for crimes they scream for blood when men do them. Hmmm?
/r/MensRights30/09/11 10:39 PM
0

Women only do that because men let them get by with it. Men need to be the ones setting the standards, period. You'll be happier, and she'll be happier. With that said, I also encourage men to be fair and considerate when doing so.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 10:30 PM
7

"Renounce feminism, and accept Christianity. Instead of just pedestaling women, you can pedestal women AND obey an arbitrary and capricious deity!"
/r/MensRights30/09/11 10:13 PM
3

There were no statistical averages in the article either. She gives anecdotes, i give anecdotes. Equality!
/r/MensRights30/09/11 02:48 AM
7

Not in my experience. The best sex i ever had in a steady relationship was with an anti-feminist woman from the rural south. The feminists I dated were horribly self-conscious, utterly confused by gender roles, and felt bad for their natural desire to be submissive.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 02:05 AM
4

I agree somewhat but not all men are as comfortable playing hardball with women. It sounds like he had real feelings for her. I don't think he's a villain. Perhaps an enabler.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 01:19 AM
3

You're not at fault. Your gf might have some serious emotional problems and she really needs to focus on herself and her health. It sounds like you're the only person in her life who tried to do the right thing in this situation.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 12:38 AM
4

Feminists often feign solidarity with "all women" on a certain issue as a rhetorical tactic to shame men. Another example is the ridiculousness when feminists claim criticism of feminism is "anti-woman." Essentially throwing millions of non-feminist or equality-minded feminist women under the bus.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 12:21 AM
5

TL;DR- Woman, woman, woman, woman, woman. Man? What's that? Oh, you mean the penises attached to wallets.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 05:47 PM
10

This is absolutely disgusting. And also sounds like the author has been listening to Death Metal.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:43 AM
3

Bull. Victorian-era Christianity is where we got the concept of the pussy pass. And mainstream Christianity is completely feminized. Traditionalist MRAs like Dalrock and Elusive Wapiti have covered this. Mainstream Christianity is even facilitating "Eat Pray Love" divorces and the notion that "if she's unhappy it's his fault."
/r/MensRights28/09/11 07:14 PM
0

I completely agree, and your truthful analysis makes me do an emotional happy dance. However, I'd still like to say that women have to take personal responsibility for their own emotional state. Feminist men are fucked up, but every woman has to own her own shit. Speaking personally, you would not believe how horribly difficult it was for me to deal with dating women who thought they wanted a feminist male gal pal. Imagine grown women, wailing their heads off like toddlers, wanting me to indulge…
/r/MensRights28/09/11 06:47 PM
3

Awesome. Now I don't feel ashamed to say that I use this product as a masturbation sleeve.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 07:12 PM
3

What you're talking about isn't chivalry. Chivalry is the expectation that a man will sacrifice for the protection and comfort of a woman, regardless of whether she returns the favor. You sound like you have an equitable and reciprocal relationship with your boyfriend, which is seriously awesome. But it's not chivalry. ;)
/r/MensRights26/09/11 11:09 PM
1

I'm not that overweight. It would creak.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 06:12 PM
2

Really? Women were graduating from medical school in the middle of the 19th century. Women could attend Ivy League colleges starting in 1871. Pre-nuptials were originally invented so wealthy women didn't get their property taken away by cads. Why would women need that legal option, if they weren't allowed wealth or privilege? Also, a whole bunch of innocent dead black men got that way to "defend white women from rape." When one takes an honest look at past societies, one realizes that EVERYONE h…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 02:44 PM
5

The difference is, rap songs critical of women get blasted by Feminists and manginas. Songs like the above aren't.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 02:29 PM
7

Yes, those poor, poor women who got to chill at home while their husbands, brothers, and sons died in horrific wars. Edmund got his testicles and right leg blown off in the Civil War. His wife Eugenia was really disappointed to hear that, on her way to collect his pension. She's the real victim, because she has limited participation in Christianity. Not to mention the horrifically dangerous jobs that men have done throughout history to support their family. Years in the coal mines gave Jethro bl…
/r/MensRights26/09/11 11:48 AM
4

Yet, I am still overweight. So I'm not trying to put myself up on a pedestal. ;)
/r/MensRights26/09/11 11:43 AM
11

I see no difference between this and the expectation of many females that her future mate will earn more money than her and behave chivalrously.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 11:42 AM
5

Agreed. I haven't eaten fast food more than once or twice in a decade.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 03:40 AM
2

Ever hear of the Spanish inquisition? Jews also faced problems/dislocations in Russia/Soviet Union. There's many other examples too.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 12:47 AM
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McDonald's main target demographic is women (especially moms) and kids. It's all about the money. Women have it, businesses want it, and businesses know that women want to feel superior to men. On the other hand, Burger King targeted young males for many years, and that's why their commercials were so provocative with male-oriented humor.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 08:37 PM
5

Who knows. I think males naturally try to differentiate themselves in order to compete for females. Some men play sports, some men hit the books, some men turn to a life of crime. Hugo chose to strive for big kahuna mangina status.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 08:32 PM
4

It is common. And no, it is not fair. It also hurts males from minority racial groups, because white women get most of these quota privileges.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 08:15 PM
8

He's a really disreputable character overall. Justified cuckolding another man, openly admitted sleeping with his students, alcoholic and drug addict, etc. We all make mistakes, but we don't all arrogantly brag about our poor judgment and scapegoat an entire gender.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 08:11 PM
3

Women - On average, the most privileged demographic in society throughout Western history. Jews - Experienced systematic, government-enforced repression, discrimination, and genocide in numerous societies throughout Western history.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 07:52 PM
1

Indeed we can. It's likely I will be voting for a third party in 2012. But one side's stupid favors misandry and feminism a lot more than the other side.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 07:31 PM
2

I have a feeling this is not going to end well for the man, but I'm not morally outraged by it.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 02:58 PM
1

Yes, the Democrat stance that gender is a social construct, that Gaia needs to be protected from patriarchy, and that we need to "spread the wealth around" are paragons of rationality.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 02:36 PM
2

No sarcasm.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 02:33 PM
3

I agree, on the basis that free speech and freedom of choice does not prevent one from being criticized. Tolerance requires that intolerant views be allowed to exist. However, I feel intolerance must be countered whenever possible.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 04:01 AM
9

I am offended by your lack of equality. Your suggestion does not go far enough. Current high school girls must be punished for the anti-nerd actions of past high school girls. Extracurricular activities favored by women must be forcibly eliminated and have their resources redistributed in favor of Chess Club and D&D guilds. Furthermore, affirmanerd action must ensure that the classes biggest geeks are sufficiently represented in the ranks of the school's most popular kids.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 03:43 AM
1

That, and the big scary Republican boogie monster that the TV keeps telling them about.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 12:25 AM
2

Yep. She gets it. Not sure why this is a big mystery to so many other guys around here.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 12:12 AM
1

Baseless criticisms coming from "female troll" will surely convince us of this.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 11:46 PM
4

Ooh. Good one.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 10:19 PM
6

It doesn't matter what people call themselves. This obsession with labels is silly. It matters what they do. Serial killers don't walk around calling themselves serial killers. My limited understanding is that O'Connor was a moderate conservative. So no, she probably did not uphold a lot of feminist viewpoints.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 08:31 PM
10

Another factor is that many feminists are entirely comfortable with restricting choice and personal freedom in order to further their ideology. It is very ironic that "pro-choice" is so closely associated with the feminist movement, as many feminist teachings are about regulating choices and arguing that people are not capable of making their own choices.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 07:44 PM
1

We can still make an impact by doing it ourselves and spreading the word to other men. Even a 10% reduction in white-knighting will seriously stress out the gynocracy.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 07:03 PM
2

"Promote Equality by Ending Chivalry."
/r/MensRights24/09/11 07:01 PM
8

If so, then women who participate and watch must be encouraging rape.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:58 PM
3

Fair enough. Decriminalized prostitution (for the prostitute, not the John) as they have in parts of Canada, is not a fair situation for men. I am proposing more of a situation like they have in Germany.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:44 PM
6

Your impression is partially correct. There are lots of anti-prostitution crusaders who are leftist feminists, also. Crusty social conservatives and leftist feminists have a long and sordid history of being allies on certain issues, among them child support enforcement, prostitution, porn, and the IMBRA. They're both motivated by their belief in female supremacy and "chivalry." Male and female social conservatives are arguably worse for men than most feminists.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:38 PM
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As a weapon to beat up on men.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:34 PM
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Prostitution is very profitable in terms of money. It is unprofitable in terms of secure access to male resources. Married women get unfettered access and control over male resources, and they don't even have to put out. Girlfriends get some access to male resources, dependent on how attractive she is and how desperate he is. Prostitutes offer a dependable, no strings attached experience for men. Legal prostitution reduces the desperation of men, mandating that non-prostitute women have to bring…
/r/MensRights24/09/11 05:49 PM
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Because prostitutes give men no strings attached sexual satisfaction reasonably and anonymously for a set price. Without the man having to jump through arbitrary hoops to "impress" the girl, risking an "oops" pregnancy, or (god forbid) getting married. When sex and female companionship is a man's objective, prostitution is an efficient and cost-effective option that many women don't want to have to compete with. Conceded a prostitute isn't going to birth a child for a man, but for that we should…
/r/MensRights24/09/11 05:21 PM
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Also, keep in mind that some psychologists don't want to put themselves out of business by actually helping their patients. Feminism makes people screwy in the head, thereby ensuring continual profits from people's efforts to "feel better." And some applications of psychology further this purpose.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 04:05 PM
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Your link isn't working for me. It really depends on what traditionalist you're talking about. Guys like Dalrock and Elusive Wapiti are traditionalist, but are very much against white-knighting, and are keenly aware of the current state of affairs. And they are both correct in their assertions that the traditional nuclear family is better for society and children. Neither one of them is shaming men into chivalry or manning-up. On the other hand, you have plenty of traditionalist conservatives wh…
/r/MensRights24/09/11 03:55 PM
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They understand it, and they are against it, because legal prostitution reduces women's economic advantage over men.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 03:43 PM
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Anti-prostitution crusaders don't give a shit about the well-being of the sex workers. Legal and regulated prostitution is safer for all parties. Anti-prostitution crusaders are primarily motivated to raise the price of sex. They want to prevent efficient transactions of a reasonable amount of $ for consensual sex between adults. They want men to be forced into marriages, pregnancies, and dating relationships where the woman always has the legal and financial upper hand. It is not about protecti…
/r/MensRights24/09/11 03:31 PM
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