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Be a real man!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/24 02:01 PM
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Twitter is just an interesting place. I made an account not too long ago and I was bombarded with feminist, anti-feminist, pro-Israel, pro-Palestine, misandry, misogyny, left wing politics, right wing politics, pro-immigration, anti-immigration, anti-white, anti-minority, etc, posts right from the get go.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 11:12 PM
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Everything is misogyny. I've seen women talk about misogyny when women attack women. It's the same thing with cheating. When a man cheats and the wife/girlfriend finds out and attacks the woman, it's misogyny. Yet, when a woman cheats, and the husband/boyfriend finds out and attacks the man, it's not seen as misandry.
/r/MensRights20/10/24 05:42 PM
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Well, don't women receive lower prison sentencing compared to men for the same crimes and similar criminal histories? Women are more likely to avoid jail time compared to men. There have even been debates in government (e.g. the UK) discussing whether to abolish female prisons as prison is a male punishment. Isn't domestic abuse another one? I've seen a number of examples where a woman hits a man and people often justify it as, "he did something to deserve it", "he's stronger, it won't hurt him"…
/r/MensRights19/02/24 04:23 PM
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Well, don't women receive lower prison sentencing compared to men for the same crimes and similar criminal histories? Women are more likely to avoid jail time compared to men. There have even been debates in government (e.g. the UK) discussing whether to abolish female prisons as prison is a male punishment. Isn't domestic abuse another one? I've seen a number of examples where a woman hits a man and people often justify it as, "he did something to deserve it", "he's stronger, it won't hurt him"…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 04:03 PM
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Absolutely, that's true, male teachers are still much more likely to be prosecuted, etc, regardless of attractiveness compared to the female teachers.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 06:48 PM
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People are much more likely to call male teachers "pedos", "creeps", "predators", etc, when they "have sex" with underaged female students compared to female teachers with underaged male students, but I have seen comments from women/girls calling other girls lucky for hooking up with an attractive male teacher. But when the male teacher is average or ugly looking, he's much, much more likely to be called "pedo",etc. The attractiveness of the teacher has a factor in all of this, not just gender.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 06:26 PM
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Oh wow, that changes everything. That damn OP manipulating all of us thinking a 48 year old woman prostituted a 15 year old boy. Turns out, she was 24 or 25 years old. Shame on you, OP.
/r/MensRights12/02/24 05:04 PM
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Lucky boy, wish that was me. She's a hero, she deserves to be rewarded. The boy deserves to be locked up if she's being locked up. All male teachers are creeps and predators. Women aren't taken seriously as predators because they're seen as trophies, no one takes a trophy seriously; therefore misogyny. You're not a real man if you complain about this. That female teacher's the real victim, she's a victim of the patriarchy and that male student took advantage of her. ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ /…
/r/MensRights12/02/24 05:01 PM
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I've heard/read this a few times from people talking about women and slavery, "the men started slavery and women went along with it because of fear."
/r/MensRights10/02/24 04:55 PM
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Sure, but if many people find it acceptable, even if it's objectively wrong, clearly it's something to think about and attempt to change people's minds on; this goes for a lot of things, not just abuse.
/r/MensRights09/02/24 11:25 PM
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No, it is not acceptable, ever. I understand what you're saying. But truly, those people do think it's acceptable. You may not think it's acceptable, but those that laugh, make excuses, etc, think it's acceptable. Doesn't mean it is, from an objective, moral standpoint.
/r/MensRights09/02/24 11:08 PM
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It literally is far more acceptable for women to hit men than the other way around. It's not about manhood being in question, I'm not even talking about men being afraid to speak up. I'm literally talking about how people are more likely to justify a woman hitting a man than the other way around, or simply ignoring it when a woman is hitting a man. People have even laughed at men being abused by women. I can talk about anecdotal evidence, like I've mentioned above, where people will say, "he did…
/r/MensRights09/02/24 08:36 PM
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I never said the men's rights movement is about equality for all. It's about helping disadvantaged men. It's called men's rights for a reason. The men's rights movement won't be advocating for women or women's issues because it's about men, at its core. Feminism, at its core, is about helping women, and women having equal rights to men (because women in the past didn't have the same rights as men), it's not about helping men's issues/problems. So I don't see it as really about actual equality. I…
/r/MensRights07/02/24 08:09 PM
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Sure, but it's still from the perspective of women, not necessarily for everyone. What I mean by this is, there are problems men and women face that don't overlap with each other. Example, you mentioned Scandinavia and the example of parenting, this affects both men and women, but the default is helping women and men will benefit as a result. But there are issues that affect men that doesn't necessarily involve women e.g. there not being many domestic abuse shelters for men. This requires specif…
/r/MensRights07/02/24 07:49 PM
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Of course women have been and are oppressed in certain parts of the world, hence why feminism is about women and advancing women's rights. At its core definition, it's not concerned with men (or any disadvantages they have) or other genders, only women. Hence why I've mentioned examples of feminist groups opposing things that will help disadvantaged men because it's seen as a negative towards women. I don't see feminism as equality, it's about advancing women's rights. Sounds weird but, to me, e…
/r/MensRights07/02/24 07:24 PM
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Feminism is about women's rights, economically, socially and politically, in its root definition. It's about women, it doesn't involve men or men's rights or disadvantaged men. It's about women, that's what it's always been about. Some of the most prominent, celebrated feminists had contempt for men, generalized men, etc. Also, just because a political party or group labels themselves a particular ideology, that doesn’t mean they actually represent accurately the ideology they supposedly identif…
/r/MensRights07/02/24 06:57 PM
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You can probably look up statistics regarding sa If you look all over this sub, you'll find that it's not so one sided as you think it is. It's simply far more under-reported for men. ​ Respecting a woman as an equal human being is not obvious to a lot of men, so it must be emphasised To a small percentage of men, you mean. Because I could quite easily say, a lot of women don't respect men because they think it's acceptable to hit men. Excuses I've often heard is: "He did something to deserve it…
/r/MensRights07/02/24 06:14 PM
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You say that but then it's far more acceptable for women/girls to hit men/boys than the other way around, for example. People often justify it as, "he did something to deserve it", or "he's stronger, it won't hurt him", etc. Men/boys are regularly brought up to "never put your hands on a woman/girl", but it's not being told the other way around. Women start physical altercations just as much or, depending on the study, even more than men in relationships. Where's the respect there?
/r/MensRights07/02/24 05:38 PM
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That isn’t something you hear much anymore, even though you might have as a child if your parents were boomers. Disagree. This is something that still happens now, quite a bit.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 02:30 PM
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They believe the patriarchy oppresses them, makes them obedient to men, etc, so, by default, they believe women and girls are brought up to respect men and boys.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 02:22 PM
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Early red pill was good. Showed things like false accusations, divorce court bias, white knights, and women are wonderful effect. Nowadays it's about dunking on OnlyFans women, being alpha, red pill influencers selling useless courses, many of them are grifters, give PUA nonsense, etc. Of course this is a generalization, I'm sure there are still some good red pillers out there, but many of them, especially the popular ones, are the things I described.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 06:00 PM
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Yep, seen this too often. Men who don't want to go down on women are called "gay", "you should feel lucky", etc. I've then seen men mentioning their wives/girlfriends not going down on them and the comments are: "you're not entitled to it", "it's her choice", etc.
/r/MensRights05/02/24 10:37 AM
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What does left and right have to do with this? Because politics gets shoved into everything. There's right-wing feminists, right-wing pedos, left-wing feminists and left-wing pedos, but, you know, tribalism causes many to cherry-pick.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 12:24 PM
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43% of women find it annoying when an unattractive guy flirts with them... even though I've read online and been told it's men who find ugly women annoying... Also, interesting how more women, regardless of who's older, find age gap relationships bad.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 05:40 PM
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Yes, you completely misunderstood me. My post has nothing to do with whether I personally believe in the patriarchy or not. I was simply questioning what you meant by "Feminists have questioned the patriarchy since forever". Again, OP's talking about patriarchy being a myth and most gen Alpha's will believe this and question the patriarchy even being real. You stated "Feminists have questioned the patriarchy since forever". My post was asking what you meant by this. Please, put aside any biases …
/r/MensRights01/02/24 12:43 PM
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males aged 16 to 29 Didn't know 27-29 year olds are gen z. Thought gen z started around 1998, maybe 1997 or so?
/r/MensRights01/02/24 12:30 PM
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Huh? Show me in my post where I personally believe whether the patriarchy is a myth or not. You're jumping to conclusions about me, you haven't even analyzed my post properly. Please, re-read my post again. You've read my post, twisted it and made it into something it's not purely because of your own biases and beliefs. My post came from a neutral standpoint, asking you a question, wondering if you understand what OP meant in their post. ​ Stop crying like little girls Very misogynistic of you. …
/r/MensRights01/02/24 12:06 PM
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What do you mean by feminists have questioned the patriarchy? I'm confused here. You believe we exist in a patriarchy, right? Your posts seem to signify this. Most feminists still believe we do. OP's talking about the patriarchy being a myth and thinking gen Alpha will be the first ones, as a majority, to mention the patriarchy is a myth. Feminists, as a whole, have questioned the patriarchy, yes, but not in terms of if it exists or not, more so in terms of how to dismantle it, question why it e…
/r/MensRights01/02/24 10:37 AM
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Yes, the manosphere has been very popular for the past 5 or so years. But I wouldn't lump guys like TheTinMenblog with many of these other people, he's much better than most of them. A large part of the manosphere and redpill are grifters, they want followers so they can peddle their useless courses, make money from impressionable young men. A lot of the Whatever podcast is same old, repeated stuff, i.e. OnlyFans woman bad, this bimbo dumb. They purposefully bring on dumb women as guests just so…
/r/MensRights01/02/24 10:22 AM
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Posts like these, regardless of which social media platform it's posted on, brings out the trolls or those that say, "it's not genital mutilation though. Benefits outweigh the negatives... hurderhurder".
/r/MensRights31/01/24 07:54 PM
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Unsurprisingly, fans defended that music video saying, "it's what the media were saying about her at the time, so she made it into a music video to make fun of the rumors", or some nonsense like that.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 05:56 PM
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Many, many Taylor Swift fans are beyond delusional. I've seen many comments on Reddit and other social medias that mentioned Musk used "Daddy's" money to propel his career, ignoring that Taylor Swift's Daddy helped her massively during the early stages of her career (though, some people did point that out). ​ If Taylor Swift was a man, imagine how much hate Swift would receive for the lyrics and actions by the pop star. Hilariously enough, many fans think she's receiving unnecessary criticism an…
/r/MensRights30/01/24 05:04 PM
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So... is it okay to not jail male criminals who were abused by women or were raised by them?
/r/MensRights30/01/24 01:39 PM
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They are mostly very young. Many, many millennial women believe they're oppressed. Social media 10 years ago was filled with millennial women complaining about how much they're oppressed and most of them still believe the same. The same will happen with gen z women.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 12:19 PM
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Not just gen z, many millennial women are the same.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 10:39 AM
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AI voices are already happening. YouTube videos of celebrities voices used for AI. There's videos with Cristiano Ronaldo's voice and it's already duped people. ​ Will there be a point where video evidence and recording won’t even be enough to accuse or innocent someone? probably. If AI voices become extremely good, people would question a lot of these accusations or video evidence. But maybe there will be technology out there one day that can detect whether a video or recording is AI or not.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 05:02 PM
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The excuse when men do better than women is because women were oppressed. When women do better than men, it's because women are just better.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 02:15 PM
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These types of stories genuinely annoy me, not just because of the double standard but also for the fact that I've heard many, and I mean many, feminists believe no-one says anything to men when they go after high school aged girls but people shame women when they go after younger men.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 02:12 PM
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TikTok has a bunch of stupid videos. Videos on men giving women the "Ick", videos of women calling men pedos, creeps, them complaining about "sexist" trees, "ugly hot" men videos, etc. All of which, if the genders were reversed, would be considered misogynistic.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 10:27 PM
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Why do you say that?
/r/MensRights28/01/24 09:21 PM
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Right, it's about being realistic. I don't subscribe to any specific pill. I see the good points and bad points in the blue, red, black, white, etc, pills. I have my own pill, the pragmatic pill.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 08:57 PM
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If you spend too much time in any group or any pill, you'll be jaded, alienated and be part of an echo chamber. There are good points to the redpill, especially redpill from 10 years ago e.g. being aware of divorce courts, false accusations, being aware of white knights. Now it seems like a lot of "alpha male" podcasters bring on OnlyFans guests just to dunk on them. As well as many of them having their own useless PUA or get rich quick courses that gullible, young, impressionable boys/men buy. …
/r/MensRights28/01/24 08:27 PM
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nothing to do with the fact that younger women are more attractive in general. And then you'll be called an insecure, immature, pedo, grooming creep for pointing this out.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 02:24 PM
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Yet I've seen a number of women saying things like, "plenty of people defend men going after 16+ year olds". ​ To no surprise, it’s generally women who are pointing this out. It's not just women. I've seen men pointing it out, but mostly because they're virtue signalling to not be seen as a "creep".
/r/MensRights28/01/24 02:23 PM
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They're not feminists. They'll say and do whatever to get more money, power, etc.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 09:22 PM
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You know what, I'm going to try this. Watch out, TwoX and r/ Feminism. Edit: Posted your comment in TwoX. I got banned. Though, there were 6 comments on my post before it was removed. A few asked for citations. One said women are the ones more likely to be attacked unprovoked compared to men. Another said, "Men are not afraid they'll be sexually assaulted if robbed."
/r/MensRights27/01/24 07:45 PM
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What makes you think that it’s the same men specifically? What do you mean by this? I never claimed it was the same men. Sexlessness and single rates have increased over the past 15 years. The previous generations didn't have this big increase as much as the last 15 years. Something must have happened over the last 15 years for this increase to have occurred. The average age gap between relationships have remained the same (2-3 years) over 20+ years among different generations but only in the la…
/r/MensRights27/01/24 04:34 PM
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Where is the whataboutism in my post? I'm pointing out how different groups will interpret the same piece of information differently... I never said both can't be true. I'm pointing out how feminists will ignore the negative aspect of mom/dad shows and only fixate on the misogynistic aspect of it while ignoring the misandrist aspect of it.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 04:05 PM
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I agree. I also see women hate on social media, but the difference is, hating on women gets media attention, it gets called sexist, violence against women, "we need to keep women safe online", etc. Hate against men doesn't get media attention. If men point it out, they'll get ignored, ridiculed, or be told, "hatred of women is far more common and more harmful", or, "man hate only exists because women are calling out horrible men".
/r/MensRights27/01/24 03:46 PM
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Funnily, despite what you've said is true, I've seen social media posts from women portraying the mom/dad shows as sexist towards women. Videos with millions of views saying things like, "all the moms are gorgeous, but the fathers are average looking. Fathers are allowed to be average looking but the mothers have to be beautiful". Of course these feminists ignore that the mothers are seen as capable, strong, take-charge, beautiful mothers. Whereas the fathers are seen as average/ugly looking, em…
/r/MensRights27/01/24 03:42 PM
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I'm not a feminist. That post was for me to see how people would respond to those feminist arguments. I used that title as clickbait to get engagement so people can debunk those feminist talking points.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 02:35 PM
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Okay, yes, the studies show sexlessness over the last 12 months. Now, can you please explain to me how age gap relationships is the cause of this sexlessness/virginity among men? From my perspective, it doesn't make any sense. Sexlessness (over the last 12 months) and men being single has been increasing since 2008 (which is shown in the studies). How can the age gap of a couple be a factor when the average age gap of relationships in 2008 was 2-3 and it's still the same now? Yet sexlessness (ov…
/r/MensRights27/01/24 02:31 PM
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I have a bunch of pickle jars that destroy the "independence" of the women in my house.. ;-) Or a spider.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 02:17 PM
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I'm sure the feminists who hate men but rely on men attempt to spin their reliance on men through a feminist lens.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 01:35 PM
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I'm explaining how (many) feminists would see it, I'm not one.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 12:23 PM
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Issue is, feminists will see men being seen as aggressive by society as stemming from misogyny. Men receiving more prison time is because women are infantilized, therefore sexism towards women.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 07:57 PM
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The average couple in America has an age gap of 2-3 years, which might not sound like a lot but when you see the ranges of age gaps it would make more sense. This, again, doesn't have enough of an impact on young men being sexless, since 2/3 of young men aren't even in a relationship. Most men aren't desirable to most women. Men being sexless in their 20s, to me, is down to men not being desirable. But hey, there could be other reasons e.g. fewer marriages. But men being sexless in their 20s is …
/r/MensRights26/01/24 07:51 PM
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I meant taller than average. 5’8” is still taller than 5’7”. But it's still not tall. ​ What do you mean by women prefer taller men? Taller than who or what? In Europe, at least 180cm. In North America, at least 6ft (183cm). And wives are happiest with tall men. ​ Yes plenty of men prefer small breasts, just because you don’t doesn’t mean there aren’t guys who do. I’ve met guys who do. Majority of men prefer larger breasts to smaller breasts. What they've said doesn't mean they're telling the tr…
/r/MensRights26/01/24 07:44 PM
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Jawline is mostly an incel meme. Not really, majority of the men seen as attractive typically have good jawlines. ​ And there’s plenty of men who prefer small breasts or don’t care about breast size. No, plenty of men don't prefer smaller breasts, they don't mind smaller breasts. Cross-generationally, and cross culturally, larger breasts and hour-glass figures have been seen as more desirable. ​ All of those things can change with culture. Like in West Africa they usually prefer women who are a …
/r/MensRights26/01/24 06:20 PM
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Fewer marriages has a factor. Fewer and fewer people are getting married now. But why is it 1/3 of young women are single but 2/3 of young men are single? Age gap in relationships can't be the main factor. Most relationships have an age gap of 0-3 years. Around 30% of young men are virgins. This again has nothing to do with age gaps in relationships.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 05:54 PM
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Looks are both objective and subjective. There are specific features that are seen as more attractive by most people. For men, it's having a good jawline, tall height, full head of hair, clear skin, broad shoulders, and being somewhat lean. For women, it's having a higher degree on neotenous facial features, clear skin, longer hair, larger breasts, and an hour-glass figure. Of course there will be some subjectivity and outlier examples, but it doesn't mean looks are mostly subjective.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 05:32 PM
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Men are more likely to be virgins in their 20s because in the average couple, the man is older than the woman. More men are virgins in their 20s because most men can't get anything, which is thanks to social media, online dating, as more and more people are meeting online. Most young men aren't even in a relationship (around 66% of young men are single compared to 30 or so percent of young women). Virginity of young men has been on the rise since around 2008.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 04:51 PM
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Women, on average, are seen as better looking than men. Many people, including women, overate women's looks. Men don't know how to rate men's looks. Where has it been psychologically proven? In the past, women had to rely on men for financials so they'd get with men they deem unattractive. Now, they can do what they want, and as a result, fewer and fewer people are in relationships. It's also been proven that women care about looks a lot more than they care to admit.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 04:49 PM
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Because of the notion that men always want it.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 04:44 PM
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If women have low sex drive compare to men then why do average women (No sex workers) have higher body counts compared to men ? Because most men can't get anything. Women find around 80% of men unattractive, so they'll reject the majority of men. It's easier for women to have sex compared to men. ​ If men have high sex drive then why body counts for men are very low ? Couldn't men hire many prostitutes for a high body count ? Probably because most men don't want to hire a prostitute. Most men wi…
/r/MensRights26/01/24 04:42 PM
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Different women will have different reasons. It could simply be a trend where these women want attention from men online. It could be because they don't want to work and be provided for by a man. Some will want complete traditionalism, others will still want equality but you to pay for everything (have the benefits of modern day equality but also benefit from traditionalism). ​ implying that being a stay at home mom is so much harder than a regular job. This reminds me of a story someone said on…
/r/MensRights26/01/24 04:30 PM
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Men blaming women for men's actions is an excuse as old as time.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 03:33 PM
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