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I don't know if you've read 'The Five Love Languages' but it makes the very insightful point that love- or perhaps, infatuation would be better- never lasts. For some it lasts a few months, for others a couple years, but it NEVER lasts forever. Beyond the point where the spark goes, love becomes a choice- something active, rather than something you feel automatically. You need to consciously and continuously 'choose' to love them, through your words and actions. This is normal, and how it is wit…
/r/seduction14/10/20 03:17 PM
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I don't agree with this. I understand that you personally do not enjoy cold approaches except in specific environments and this is fine, to each their own, but a lot women do enjoy being approached in situations that you consider 'not appropriate' (or they wouldn't keep giving out their numbers). To put it another way- some women do not like cold approaches anywhere, including clubs/bars etc, does this mean that guys should never cold approach anywhere? I would say the most important thing to co…
/r/seduction28/09/20 06:00 PM
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If you aren't interested in this girl, why are you trying to 'trigger' something in her by blocking her? If you are interested in her, why are you blocking her? Your approach makes no sense.
/r/seduction14/09/20 01:15 PM
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either because you messed up interacting with her or she’s just shallow Or maybe she's just busy. Or maybe she just doesn't like the kind of person you came across as via text.
/r/seduction14/09/20 01:13 PM
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absolutely :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:38 PM
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I don't think they even need to think they are the best in the ways they care about. As long as they are the best version of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:22 PM
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Some men truly are self assured and confident and believe themselves to be the best Or perhaps some men have a little wiser approach, which is that they know they are the best in some ways, the worst in others, and somewhere in between for everything else, and that is ok with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:14 PM
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I found this post brilliant. Good job, internet stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 05:10 AM
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Is there anything about the traditional woman that sounds appealing? Virginity, not earning money, being respectful, being obedient, cooking, cleaning, traditionally feminine traits. Virginity: I certainly would not want my wife to be a virgin. Not earning money: No, I think I would be more attracted to a girl who has some passion in her life, which for most of us is a career. In principle she could have a passion that does not earn money though- but I'm not sure 'raising a family' would count. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 04:45 AM
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Because it's creepy. The problem with this argument is that it isn't an argument, since creepiness is subjective. It may well be creepy TO YOU and a million other women but if it isn't to the two people involved then it isn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:46 PM
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Because there is no other reason for an old fart to go after younger women, then to control and manipulate them. Why do you ignore the obvious possibility of the old fart finds younger women more attractive than women his own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:33 PM
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I feel like this is obviously true. But it's also true in the other direction- that women are more attracted to picky men. We have been honed by evolution to value things that are hard to get over things that are easy to get. Whether or not pickiness is a more attractive trait in a guy or a girl is an interesting question. I have zero evidence to back this up but I would speculate that it makes more of a difference if a guy is picky. Since, guys are generally the ones doing the chasing, if you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 07:21 PM
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I'm not sure if I agree with the first sentence but the second sentence describes me pretty accurately. I've never thought about it like that before, thank you for the perspective :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:22 AM
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Yes, the people represented on this subreddit dont seem to exist in the real world. I sometimes feel like this whole sub is nothing more than entertaining fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 01:03 PM
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No, the desired goal is their number of course (assuming they don't say anything in the short conversation that puts you off wanting to see them again). But a warm response still makes you feel really good. A day with zero numbers but warm responses is definitely still a successful day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:57 PM
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I'm not, and yes hot guys will get turned down most of the time. There is a large gap between a girl responding warmly and getting their phone number :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 10:47 AM
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I have done a fair bit of approaching girls on the street (although for sure, I'd still consider myself a bit of a noob) and success is not really really low. I get a positive reaction maybe a third or a half of times- ie I can tell that they enjoyed the compliment, like you said. And sometimes it develops into something really wonderful. Certainly, based on my experience, I'm not going to stop doing it. And given this, I will continue to tell them why I stopped them (ie because they are pretty)…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 08:40 AM
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Good point, in different contexts, there are different 'openers' that are socially intelligent. But what about approaching girls on the street, what's wrong with saying you approached them because they were pretty, in that instance? I'm not sure what the alternative is- if you don't want to lie. Unless you are saying guys shouldn't be approaching girls in the street in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 07:26 AM
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I have spent a lot of time reading the PUA stuff and practiced 'day game' (ie approaching girls on the street) a lot. It is one of the best things I have ever done for my confidence and personal development. I think PUA is a very broad area. Much like TRP. There's a lot of bullshit and unethical behaviour, but that isn't all there is. Unless of course the title of PUA is reserved for those two things! Maybe that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:19 AM
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What is the difference? Perhaps natural confidence is more direct and honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:16 AM
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I disagree that being honest betrays lack of social intelligence. In fact, I would say the opposite. If a guy approaches a girl, he has to give SOME explanation as to why he just did that. To do otherwise would be extremely socially unintelligent. And given that he has to give some explanation, what could be better than actually going with the truth? Do you really think giving no explanation, or lying, is representative of a normal person with social intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:12 AM
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I think because, the girl will want some explanation as to why you approached- until you give an explanation she may think you are a beggar or whatever. So you have to give SOME explanation. Given this, what alternative is there to giving an honest explanation?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:07 AM
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What about if guys 'do that' just so you know why they approached, then they lead the conversation onto something else? Of course, if they just say 'Hi, you're pretty' and then stop talking that gives you nothing to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:03 AM
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So, I ask, why is there a gut level negative response to what is essentially ... honesty? I disagree with this central premise of yours OP. I have, hundreds of times, done exactly what you say there is a gut level negative reaction towards. I have approached girls in the street and said explicitly I wanted to say hello because they were pretty. I do this for precisely the reasons you point out, because it is being honest. Pretending I am approaching the girl for some other reason is not only dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:54 AM
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As a guy, how am I meant to find out if a girl is clever/funny/interesting/etc without approaching her first? The various clever/funny/interesting women I did meet, I would never have met, if I waited to discover these properties by some other method than approaching them on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 03:44 AM
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The dominant narrative in our society is that women look for men who are compatible with their personalities and will treat them well and whom they find attractive. How is this incompatible with hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 01:00 PM
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What lie, specifically, are you talking about? I don't remember being taught that women are not hypergamous. Also, do you have a problem with women being hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 05:05 AM
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Why is it so important to you that the world understands what hypergamy is? As long as you understand it, isn't that enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:41 AM
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I like this response, Internet stranger :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:48 AM
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Rich guys get hotter wives and have better looking kids. 100 generations of this and the rich will be more attractive than the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:45 PM
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The rich are likely just better looking as well. Rich guys get hotter wives and have better looking kids. 100 generations of this and the rich will be more attractive than the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:44 PM
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Assuming equal numbers of men and women, what you are saying is impossible, unless more men settle than women? I'd have thought it's the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:41 PM
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I think the gist of this is that a women's SMV is much more dependant on their looks than a guys is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:32 PM
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That makes sense. Hadn't thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 01:37 PM
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Negging takes advantage of low self esteem of the other person. Why would someone who themselves has low self esteem be more likely to want to neg?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 07:31 AM
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What is UMC and why isn't it on this list https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/wiki/terms
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 11:53 AM
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It's all to do with intentions I think. The behaviour isn't the point, it's the intention. If you are doing X to get approval, you are beta. If you are doing X because you think it's the right thing to do, you are alpha. X can be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 08:32 PM
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tactless honesty This is an unrelated point, but can you blame the guy here? I would be very annoyed if a girl misrepresented herself to me in order to get a date. My time is precious, don't waste my evening. Secondly, the girl needs to know how the guy is feeling so she can avoid the same thing happening again. Him pretending to be cool with her misleading him will not get her anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 06:35 AM
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One day I hope to be where you are at. Currently I'm at the stage where I ask hot girls for directions :) baby steps!
/r/seduction21/12/18 01:29 PM
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Are like, style consultants a thing? Is there someone I can pay to help me go shopping to make me look fly af? I understand the whole 'develop your own style' thing, but how do you do that?
/r/seduction26/11/18 12:00 AM
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I find your comment inspirational.. I'm 33 and starting to lean into the seduction thing. Good to know I havnt missed the boat. One thing that worries me is approaching girls who are a decade or more younger than me and coming across like a creepy old man. Did you ever have this issue?
/r/seduction25/11/18 11:53 PM
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This sounds like the goal to get to this point? To no longer be impressed simply by a pretty girl?
/r/seduction25/11/18 11:50 PM
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I know. I was referring to the non conscious shit tests.
/r/seduction17/10/18 05:54 PM
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This is great, thanks. You can let your words be soft and your strong masculine frame be the dominant part that's doing the telling. This is a great sentence. And I will check out that article!
/r/seduction10/10/18 01:47 PM
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Ask her "are you comfortable/should we keep going/does that feel good/let me know if you want to stop". Imagining saying this in the middle of a hot steamy session sounds like a super weird mood killer, but I can guarantee you it'll work the complete opposite way. In my experience (which is almost certainly less than yours) the way to play this is to say, near the start- i.e. just before you go down on her- "Let me know if there is anything I'm doing that you don't like, or if there's something …
/r/seduction09/10/18 02:37 PM
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Why?
/r/seduction23/09/18 09:33 AM
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Has anyone here had success with being even more direct, "hey you are very pretty and id be annoyed with myself if I didn't ask for your number [gets phone out and pass to her] if you don't want to give me your number just put something fake in, otherwise I'll get embarrassed"
/r/seduction23/09/18 09:32 AM
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I actually like this answer a lot, thanks!
/r/seduction13/09/18 10:57 PM
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I don't understand this at all. At no point does she claim she was interested in the STEM fields but didn't get in due to misogyny.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/09/18 03:43 PM
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You ideally want to show intent by hitting on them Well Mystery Method says you shouldn't do this until after she already likes you But what entropy suggest has a high fallout unless she already has perceived value in you. ?
/r/seduction16/08/18 04:12 AM
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I feel like sharing your insecurities is a DHV if your frame is tight. Ie you aren't embarrassed, you know it's OK to have issues. It also shows non neediness. At least this is what Models taught me. I'm certainly no expert.
/r/seduction16/08/18 12:11 AM
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What is the purpose of your comment? If you don't want to 'school' me why post anything at all?
/r/MGTOW11/08/18 06:49 AM
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Interesting video, thanks for sharing. I agree that women, for the same amount of effort, have more 'options' than guys when it comes to dating. But this doesn't imply that men don't have considerable options as well, especially if you are willing to put in some effort. Further, since there are the same number of guys and girls out there, and having multiple wives is illegal, surely they both have the same options (when it comes to LTRs at least, not necessarily sex)? Maybe if a guy is very ugly…
/r/MGTOW11/08/18 05:58 AM
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I genuinely can't follow you at all here. I'm trying my best. In what way do men not have the 'luxury' of trying to pick the best possible mate to have offspring with? Isn't that what we're all trying to do? Well not you MGTOWers of course, but the rest of us.
/r/MGTOW11/08/18 04:11 AM
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Your mental gymnastics are incredible. You are saying that if she left him because he was toxic, it's still her fault for not getting to know him better before getting pregnant? It is genuinely impressive that you guys find a way for literally everything to be a woman's fault. You are basically the male versions of extreme feminists.
/r/MGTOW11/08/18 02:56 AM
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The guy can overrule her on the above by simply not doing it. Not having sex with her, etc. No idea why you throw the word 'legally' in there. Of course she has agency and accountability for her choices. So does the guy. What's your point?
/r/MGTOW11/08/18 01:21 AM
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Why do you assume she put herself in that position?
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 07:19 PM
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Agreed 100%. Thanks man.
/r/seduction05/08/18 10:29 AM
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Very interesting answer. Lots to chew on. Thanks man! #3 is a big one. And #4 never even occurred to me, interesting perspective.
/r/MGTOW21/07/18 02:40 PM
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Am I correct in thinking that women are much more likely to attempt suicide than men?
/r/MGTOW20/07/18 02:20 PM
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No I dont want a cheesecake as I'm trying to watch my weight but thanks for asking. How can this guy want to improve his situation when he doesn't know the situation he's in?
/r/seduction11/06/18 04:05 PM
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I never said they didnt work hard to limit their intake. I think we just mean different things by 'want'.
/r/seduction11/06/18 03:58 PM
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It's a fairly logical progression to learn these tools to recognize for yourself that you picked the wrong woman. The Game, as far as I remember it, does not detail how to tell if a woman is cheating on you. And even if it does, if she was careful, then he still wouldn't find out. If you've been told your girlfriend is cheating on you, you're gonna look for clues that would give confirmation bias in whichever direction you wanted to believe. If he doesn't want to believe that she's cheating on h…
/r/seduction11/06/18 02:04 PM
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I'm very happy to answer all of your questions. I'm just trying to keep things simple so it doesn't go off into the weeds and waste both our times. Although as to your specific question here- you've already answered it yourself. You must think knowing would make the situation better, or you wouldn't want to know. So ask yourself why it would make the situation better for you. If you really don't think knowing would make the situation better- why would you want to know!? Although if you want my o…
/r/seduction11/06/18 01:57 PM
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What is it you got out of that book? Why would you recommend it over other books, like Models for example?
/r/seduction11/06/18 01:31 PM
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but you just don't seem to want to buy that. If by this you mean I disagree with him, then yes.
/r/seduction11/06/18 01:28 PM
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If you don't think knowing would make things better for you, why would you want to know?
/r/seduction11/06/18 01:27 PM
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You havn't answered my question. Would you, or would you not, want to know if you were being cheated on?
/r/seduction11/06/18 12:56 PM
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Everyone in the [first] world does eat what they want. If someone eats healthily and moderately and doesn't get obese that's because, at the end of the day, they don't want to eat pizza all day- if they did- they would. Either you would want to be told that your gf is cheating on you or you wouldn't. I would absolutely 100% want to be told. Would you? Yes or no? And I don't know what the benefits of giving him the book have to do with anything because telling him he's being cheated on and giving…
/r/seduction11/06/18 07:50 AM
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What you said sounds insightful, but when you stop to think about it for a second, is meaningless. It's very simple really. If your girlfriend was cheating on you, would you, or would you not, want to know about it?
/r/seduction11/06/18 04:55 AM
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Um, in addition to giving him this book, why didn't you just tell him he was being cheated on?
/r/seduction11/06/18 02:09 AM
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I love this quote very much :)
/r/seduction10/06/18 03:26 PM
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It's because of straight up misogyny, I'm convinced. A lot of people here seem to think single mums deserves to suffer.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/18 12:19 PM
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The implied 'solution' to single mothers has always been contraception, ie preventative, in my view. Certainly I havnt heard 'man up' used in the context of bringing up another guy's child. But there is no correct answer here, probably we just have different perspectives/experiences. Why are the two options either it's wholly the woman's fault or its partly her partly the guy? Why can't it be wholly the guy's fault? I also don't get why you assume it's necessarily anyone's 'fault'. Maybe the hus…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 10:02 PM
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How will lying in her bed and crying help her find a father figure for her child?
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 05:21 PM
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Maybe you are right- the child will always see you as an outsider to some degree- that doesn't mean 'you should never marry single mothers'. What is a single mother to do, in your opinion, if she wants a father figure for her child?
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 07:46 AM
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Interesting perspective, thanks for sharing.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 07:45 AM
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However, this idea that men in society should "step up" and raise Chadspawn What makes you think there is a conventionally held idea? I've never heard it before. because women can't make good decisions So every single mother is a single mother only because of her bad decisions?
/r/TheRedPill22/05/18 07:43 AM
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Yes, his behaviour is tragic, not the behaviour of the guy who steps in to raise the child.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 06:12 PM
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I dont understand this sub. How is it tragic if it was good for the kid and the guy was happy to do it? Do y'all find the concept of adoption ridiculous as well?
/r/TheRedPill21/05/18 05:32 PM
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How did the game change in China?
/r/TheRedPill07/05/18 04:30 PM
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Models is the best personal development book I've ever read, and I've read a LOT. It doesn't just help with women, it helps you improve all areas of your life. Because that's the point of the book- it's not about developing a strategy, it's simply about how to be awesome. Once you are awesome the rest will take care of itself.
/r/seduction23/01/18 03:28 PM
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thanks buddy, this is a good answer. Reminds me of this http://i.imgur.com/B8BsePA.jpg
/r/seduction31/12/17 11:03 AM
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Dude thanks so much. It's like you were put on this earth to soothe my anxieties. Currently reading Models which is saying much the same as you. 'be awesome then be yourself'. Going to look into couch surfing specifically. I hope you have an excellent day.
/r/seduction17/12/17 01:26 PM
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Thanks buddy, excellent post. Excellent to hear college girls are a possibility. I was worried about 25 year olds being off the table (currently 32)
/r/seduction17/12/17 09:24 AM
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I'm a bit worried by that post. Im 32 and in 9 years have only had a short (6months) relationship. But, my story is a little different, I've been kept out of the game due to illness (chronic fatigue syndrome). I've actively avoided relationships. Now Im well again and look forward to meeting women. I don't really feel too old at all. I think this guy has a decade of failing to meet women (which is hard to understand why) and this has put him into a real psychological hole. For me it's like I'm r…
/r/seduction05/12/17 08:27 PM
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What kinds of ages are you matching with, out of interest? Also- how are none of these girls turning into proper relationships? Are you having to make a specific effort to not see them again after you 'f close'? Also again (final question!) What kind of thing do you have in your bio?
/r/seduction18/09/17 12:00 PM
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:)
/r/seduction15/08/17 03:35 PM
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Cool, thanks buddy. Good to hear you are also from UK. Looking to start my day game career in cambridge.
/r/seduction15/08/17 12:12 PM
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That's awesome to hear. I do hear what you are saying re. women generally never being interested in guys younger than them, whereas guys will happily date women younger- so in theory as guys get older the pool increases (to a point of course)! How often do you meet women in the wild, i.e. not on tinder? If you have solid game and just go up to women on the street or wherever, do you find yourself conscious of (accidently?) going up to an inappropriately young women? It can be pretty damn hard to…
/r/seduction15/08/17 11:51 AM
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Dude that is awesome to hear, thanks. I was out of the game for basically my entire 20s (due to mental health issues- fully resolved now) and have been worried that I've missed the bus. Your post is exactly what I needed to hear. May you have an excellent day friend!
/r/seduction15/08/17 08:09 AM
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Changing the subject a little, but what kind of ages do you get matched with? I'm new to all this and am also your age- worried that girls in their 20s will have filters stopping them even seeing my profile
/r/seduction15/08/17 06:18 AM
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Thanks very much buddy- this is exactly what I wanted to hear! Hopefully in 5 months I can give someone else like me the same response!
/r/seduction11/12/16 10:18 PM
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Were you meeting women primarily your own age, or younger? It bums me out that women my own age are already over the hill somewhat in terms of looks....
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:08 PM
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Thanks buddy. I already read Models (I loved it) will look into the other!
/r/seduction11/12/16 06:05 PM
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I panic about going out to party or to bars with people, but I crave the social interaction and energy at the same time. This is very hard for me to get my head around. Thanks for sharing though. Seems like social anxiety bears little relation to whether someone is an introvert or extrovert. Btw...something that helps me- it may not help you but worth a shot- I just say to myself over and over in social situations "Everyone here is seeking my approval". It really makes the anxiety go away, at le…
/r/seduction30/05/16 08:42 PM
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(unless you're some kind of sociopath who can't empathize with people). Or if you're a Grade A autist. But yes..you make sense!!
/r/seduction30/05/16 08:34 PM
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You have experienced this personally? How did you make the change?
/r/seduction30/05/16 05:24 PM
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And the most extrovert person in the world suffers from social anxiety, you can be sure of that. This kind of seems like a contradiction to me? Is it not the social anxiety (or perhaps just the social pressure) that causes some people to find large social gatherings draining?
/r/seduction30/05/16 05:23 PM
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That's a great comment! So would you say that while you can't really turn from an introvert into an extrovert, it is certainly possible to find social situations increasingly more enjoyable as you continue to expand your comfort zone?
/r/seduction30/05/16 05:19 PM
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In fact many people state that pickup "turned them into extroverts" or a "social introvert", whatever that means. This is what I wanted to hear!
/r/seduction30/05/16 04:58 PM
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This is a fantastic post. Thanks so much buddy. I will add that book to my wishlist!
/r/seduction30/05/16 11:49 AM
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This is the first I've heard of the idea that it is possible to increase your brain plasticity. Is there science backing this up!?
/r/seduction30/05/16 11:47 AM
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Thanks for the long reply man. I think I'm actually suffering from a bad case of one-itis. I laughed about it when I first heard about this concept 'it would never happen to me' but here we are.
/r/seduction30/03/16 05:43 PM
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If you're not a good story teller, become one. How would I go about doing this!?
/r/seduction26/12/15 09:50 AM
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Could you elaborate/post a link on that?
/r/seduction25/12/15 09:20 PM
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Thanks buddy that's a fantastic reply! Makes perfect sense. Also active listening makes it more likely for me to recall my own stories/opinions/thoughts about whatever it is she's talking about.
/r/seduction25/12/15 10:24 AM
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Yes, my memory of the book was that it was completely unrelated, and unapologetically so, to the skill of maintaining a long term relationship. This is why it always confused me when books like Models had a go at 'pick up artist' techniques as something that won't work in the long term. The first generation pick up stuff (style, mystery stuff) never made that claim.
/r/seduction15/10/15 07:09 AM
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Ha thanks buddy, this is exactly what I wanted to hear! It seems like I got my perspective wrong - girls will be more likely worrying that they are too young for me than that I am too old for them. And I am 1000x the man I was when I was 20. I completely agree that I have a lot more to offer them.
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:54 AM
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As a side note, friendzoned girls actually make great friends. I love going out for drinks with my friendzoned girls since I love talking to them about life, other girls, their problems, etc. This is exactly what I'm after!!! Not just sex, but having a long list of awesome girls I can ring up and ask if they want to join me to do something fun that day. Here's a question for you. Do you think you will ever 'grow out' of your current lifestyle? Do you think it's something that many guys simply do…
/r/seduction14/10/15 11:11 PM
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I agree. I know The Game is considered pretty old school now in terms of techniques but the best quote I know to help with pick up is from this book: "once you internalise the idea that everyone you meet is seeking your approval you become socially invincible"
/r/seduction07/10/15 07:20 PM
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Do you go out specifically to day game, or are you just approaching women in the day as you go about your normal life? If the former- where do you go to maximize day game potential?
/r/seduction25/08/15 08:32 AM
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Sounds like mystery is about outer game, Models is to do with inner game? Would you say that even if Mystery's approach now isn't the best, he was an absolute trailblazer of the entire movement and deserves all our respect?
/r/seduction09/08/15 10:20 PM
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Other than starting the interaction, avoid QUESTIONS at all costs. Why? I don't get this one.
/r/seduction09/08/15 09:47 PM
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Could someone explain how the ideas of RSD and Models differ from the mystery method?
/r/seduction09/08/15 07:05 PM
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Haha I'm in the same boat as you. Im still stuck on asking for the time.
/r/seduction09/08/15 01:47 AM
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I agree with op actually, but clearly not all forms of seduction can be seen that way. Negging for example is not a way of spreading happiness.
/r/seduction08/08/15 02:14 PM
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What resources do you suggest in order to 'get good at sex'? I find the internet is overflowing with tips to get you into a girl's pants but it's much harder to find good information about what you do when you get in there.
/r/seduction06/08/15 06:02 AM
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Does the primary know about the others?
/r/seduction06/08/15 05:43 AM
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I agree buddy. It seems to me that how to get into a girl's pants and how to maintain a good relationship are completely independent skills
/r/seduction06/08/15 05:42 AM
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Hey man thanks very much. You put a lot of effort into that answer, I appreciate it.
/r/seduction05/08/15 08:20 PM
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Thanks buddy that was really helpful
/r/seduction05/08/15 08:15 PM
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Thanks man, that was really helpful. Except: are they likely to actually tell you that they done want a ONS?
/r/seduction05/08/15 08:09 PM
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don't try to get to know her I really don't understand this bit. That implies you are literally having sex with her as if she was a piece of meat. Wouldn't you rather have sex with someone who is interesting and worth your time than a walking vagina? I agree with a lot of the rest of what you said though (especially the bits which contradict the above) . Re having 3-4 simultaneous girlfriends, this hasn't even crossed my mind as a possibility.
/r/seduction05/08/15 08:07 PM
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Which point do you do this? After she is attracted to you or straight away!?
/r/seduction05/08/15 07:59 PM
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What exactly is the question here? How do you filter out girls who do NOT want a one night stand, who are specifically looking for a relationship?
/r/seduction05/08/15 06:17 PM
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ok man. thanks for your help!
/r/seduction26/07/15 07:40 PM
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Thanks man. I will check out that book. If I wanted to read more about how the mystery method was obsolete where could I turn? I don't really understand how it can be obsolete- if it worked once, it will always work- women havn't evolved into a different species in the last ten years?
/r/seduction26/07/15 05:55 PM
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I agree with all of this - the problem though is that it seems like opening a set is completely different from going up to an individual girl. The latter is fine (just use jealous girlfriend for example) but none of the examples you cited would help with a group? What do you personally do with a group? Also I'm slightly confused by what you said about mystery method- are you saying it's good or not!? But yes, I 100% agree with the idea that I need to grab my balls and go for it. Easier said than…
/r/seduction26/07/15 04:48 PM
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The reason I'm asking is because- frankly- I am too terrified to 'open a set' without a magic trick, without using the opener, 'Hi Im an amateur magician, I'm just going to take one minute of your time to practice a trick'. If anyone has some easier suggestions as to how to open a set I'm all ears however! But the ideas I got from reading 'the mystery method' I cannot imagine using (going up to group and saying things like 'did you see that fight outside). I sort of feel like a lot of the 'opene…
/r/seduction26/07/15 02:03 PM
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