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Is 2 different subreddits
/r/MensRights02/03/23 11:52 PM
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Is not even an expectation anymore because we are browbeaten into seen our sucess as opressive toxic priviledged bad behaviour as well. Is more of a slavehood, we are supposed to fullfill those roles but at the same time not enjoy it or feel proud about it.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 11:34 PM
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My concern is on outside forces, it doesnt matter how manly im on the inside, that does nothing to help me against divorce rape or false accusations or feminist quotas at my job.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 10:17 PM
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Dogs do make very eerie sounds and expressions when in pain or they want stuff. How though, how are you gonna make society see men as humans then if not by allowing them to cry? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTtMcTd2SJ8&ab\_channel=ESLandPopularCulture
/r/MensRights02/03/23 10:11 PM
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Did western civilization before us also had to get rid of feminism though? I think is a new phenomena only possible as a parasite of first world abundant high tech societies. What are examples of our civilization getting rid of feminism in the past?
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:54 PM
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How are you getting that compassion and empathy in the first place though?
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:45 PM
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Whats your better idea?
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:44 PM
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From society as a whole, what you say makes sense in a world were we dont have feminism anymore, but under feminism we men need to compete with women for empathy and compasion to not be stepped on rights wise like we are being stepped on right now. If we can somehow get rid of feminism then yes sure we can talk about how we are wired differnet and so on, until then i think is futile.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:24 PM
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In an all boys school i cant be falsed accused of sexual harrasment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/23 09:22 PM
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To get the same compasion and empathy that women get and therfore all the social advantages and benefits that come along with it.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:13 PM
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Once accepted and normalized, crying has the very poweerfull advantage of evoking compasion and empathy from others, from wich women are hugely benefit and i think a big part if not all of their current social, legal and cultural advantage comes from this phenomena. So i woudl like men to be accepted to cry not for their own internal benefit (wich if it is healthy of course why not) but rather for the social external benefit that we are severly lacking in my view.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 09:01 PM
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Oh please this sub is the only reason i log in to reddit at all
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:46 PM
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Wise advise, they like immediatly perma banned me for just asking politely that got into my nerves to be honest but im good now
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:39 PM
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All of thats is fine if the sub had another name. The only problem is that is posted in ''guys can cry'' sub. And i already explain this 3 times to you, and you began to make it personal talking about what i want, so i wont be replying to you anymore, i take offense on that. Do and think whatever you want.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:32 PM
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The post is not about ''men''s mental health'', is just about ''mental health'', by a woman, thats the problem.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:25 PM
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Sorry to hear that i hope reddit future looks like facebooks
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:22 PM
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Men can go to a sub called ''anyonecancry'' and relate to a women there. A sub called ''guys can cry'' should only contain guys crying.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:21 PM
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Yes not just speaking but being emotional about it from her personal perspective, that should be a dude or it doesnt belong in a sub with that name
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:18 PM
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My position is that this society does not deserve me to be a ''real man'' for it (due to its applied radical feminism)
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:16 PM
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Any diversity quota or censorship of any kind. I think what you need to think about is direct vs indirect discrimination. A rule explicitly stating that no more white men should be hired or accepted to college for example is not equivalent of looking at black hiring results or college students and indirectly conclude that discrimination must be responsable for that difference. One looks at outcomes, and assumes racism must be the cause. The otherone is a direct explicit discrimination form the g…
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:09 PM
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Is not a feeling is an objective fact at plain sight
/r/MensRights02/03/23 08:01 PM
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100% agree, male disposability at its best
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/23 07:11 PM
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Oh my god haha thank you for sharing that im crying of laughter pun intended
/r/MensRights01/03/23 05:15 PM
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Theres a more powerfull utility in crying apart from being an emotional valve for the person crying, wich is the empathy and social leverage it generates in others towards them. Is not a coincidence that women are more empathize towards, more helped by society, women concerns are taken more seriously and with a higher priority and more money is spent on them. I think a big part of this gender discrepance is because women cry more, women crying is much more normalizaed and accepted, wich directly…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 05:06 PM
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Konnichiwa
/r/MensRights01/03/23 04:56 PM
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Im happy to hear that, last time i was here was when they guycry dude was promoting his sub here a few months ago i believe.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 04:36 PM
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here is my same reply in japanese maybe you understand that language? サブは「ガイクライ」ではなく「メンドントベシッティファーザーズ」です
/r/MensRights01/03/23 04:34 PM
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Hahah i would love to see that
/r/MensRights01/03/23 04:25 PM
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Crying is more powerful than you might think, i think is one of the main reasons women are getting many social advantages over men. Why are women protected more from physical violence than men? Because they cry more. Why are women being granted custody money social aid quotas you name it, i think a big part is because they cry more. Why are women dominating the mental and physical health area of society? Because they cry more. In this enviroment men need to be able to cry to keep up and be healt…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 04:24 PM
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the sub is ''guycry'' not ''mendontbeshittyfathers'' should i explain this to you in another language maybe?
/r/MensRights01/03/23 04:20 PM
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And is also a money scam? holy feminist shit haha. Good to know that people are aware and theres an alternative thank you
/r/MensRights01/03/23 02:31 PM
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/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:48 PM
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Im talking to a brick wall at this point
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:45 PM
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about SHITTING ON FATHERS absolutly not is an utter disgrace feminist trash
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:41 PM
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The problem is not your fear or you being wery, the problem is the social rules being unequal. Yes im stronger than you, but if i hurt you, theres real severe punishment for me. If a woman destroys my reputation or decides to take my assets and children, THERE IS NO PUNISHMENT FOR HER THANKS TO FEMINISM. Yes im stronger than you, but if i hit you, society will jump on me and destroy me for hurting you. If you decide to ruin my life, NOBODY will help me, society will not give a single fuck, the l…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:37 PM
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Is a clear socialized example of male disposability since theres no day for women to stand up againts violence for men and boys
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:28 PM
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It doesnt let me link the post, this is the title, and the post itself is just the girl suidide letter: ''This is important. This little girl was 11 and she DID commit suicide by jumping off a balcony. Men, if you find yourself being like the father here, remember this letter. All of your children deserve love. No matter what is happening, be kind and fair.'' This is only exclusively shitting on men
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:26 PM
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Awesome glad to hear that
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:11 PM
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Happy to hear that
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:04 PM
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IS NOT A GUY CRYING what part of that you dont understand
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:00 PM
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By crippling every aspect of mens lives with the excuse that everything is mens fault
/r/MensRights28/02/23 10:23 PM
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Exactly so i presented example where boy are treated unfairly because of their gender, you havent presented any for girls, you instead talked about sexual harrasment. My point is that theres no symetry here, boys are being purposely by the system itself being targeted and hinder for being boys, while girls are not being subjected to that.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 08:49 PM
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Because their word has no value when theres no consequences for them, and feminism is 100% to blame for that.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 08:48 PM
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Also you are implying that if the reverse where the case it would be any differnet, do you think if a boy said that a girl was sexually harrasing him, he would be taken seriously at all? Of course not, hence thats not differnet treatment.
/r/MensRights28/02/23 05:48 PM
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and when false accussers start getting what they deserve we will care about that again until then you reap what you sow jail time for false accussers, damages payments and reputation fixing of every single false accused man, then we can talk
/r/MensRights28/02/23 05:39 PM
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teen girls are not being made to apologize for their gender at achools and being told they are toxic rapists
/r/MensRights28/02/23 05:20 PM
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Because feminism is making it impossible for men to function
/r/MensRights28/02/23 04:18 PM
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Divorce
/r/MensRights28/02/23 03:59 PM
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The daughter 100% needs the trueth thats not even a question. The issue is that for that to happen the mother would need to admit to willingly by her own agency chosing to sleep with a scumbag, and im willing to bet that will never happen.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 09:18 PM
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Yes but i recommend trying many different professionals, mental health is not a hard science like math, theres plenty of wiggle room, the more differnet opinions you get the better.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 09:13 PM
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This happens because society doesnt have the guts, the stomach, to punish women when they deserve it. And this is because of feminism.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 08:54 PM
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Is up to her
/r/MensRights27/02/23 08:52 PM
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As a man feminism means the dehumanization of myself, i think it has severely crippled my life.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 08:51 PM
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Im 100% with you this a huge social problem, yet i recommend you not to mess your personal life with politics, unless you can really afford it. You can help in other ways like helping with research, arguments, awareness, spread of information, and so on.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 08:44 PM
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She only deserves alimony if she is an obedient traditional housewife mother, otherwise stop immediatly.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 08:38 PM
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Keep repeating to him over and over that this is 100% HER fault and she should face real consequences exactly as a man would in her situation. You wouldnt imagine how impossible it is to make society admit that women are to be held accountable for anything.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 08:35 PM
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Sorry i didnt mean to be agressive but rather to express my deep disgust for that idea haha
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/23 08:36 PM
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Yes thats perfect, because it means women are as responsable as men for it. If you say is male ego then that implies only men are to be blamed for it, wich for someon like me is night and day difference.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/23 08:31 PM
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That doesnt come from men it comes from society as any other gender stereotype. Is the equivalent of me saying that all problems women ever faced are to be blamed on women being emotional and retarded.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/23 08:27 PM
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Whatever it is is not ego please dont ever blame anything real problem like this on male ego again or ill spit on your face of how offensive that is.
/r/AntiFeminists24/01/23 08:11 PM
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For example theres antifeminist women here they cool, and feminism does harass women that dont follow their narrative wich explain why some of them are more quiet than they should be. I put all the blame on feminism not women, hence im an antifeminist, as you said the game is rigged, but this is the feminist game not the women game. Imagine a paralel universe where masculinism is rampant instead of feminism, and men are allowed to abuse women without consequences, i imagine that would get pretty…
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 05:58 PM
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I did say physicaly or in any other way, includes hurting women mentally, dont do that, dont hurt people for being women. Im just claryinging to you that not helping them doesnt equate to hurting them, you are free to not give a shit about them, just dont go out of your way to mess with them. Why do you still desire women though? when i watch a couple i feel sad for the dude not for myself if that makes sense. So to your post question, are you rightful to hate them? No, but you are rightful to n…
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 05:33 PM
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Your fine as long as you dont actively hurt a person for bieng a woman, physicaly or in any other way. But you not providing for them is not hurting them, you dont dating them is not hurting them, you not helping them is not hurting them, you owe nothign to them, thats fine.
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 04:00 PM
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Your felings are valid, but i think you are wrong to label your feelings as ''hate'', thats not what you feel (as far as i can tell), you dont feel an urge to hurt them, you just have a natural reaction of whats happening around you. If you are actually feeling hate for women in general then that would be wrong, but i doubt thats what you are actually felling. Is like you are equating not wanting to deal with them or dislike them as ''hatred'', dthose are differnt things, if you hate someone you…
/r/AntiFeminists22/01/23 03:35 PM
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Whats going on is that women are being granted social power without the correspondant that should come along wich such power. Then obviously women on men abuses start to skyrocket because there is no sense of punishment place on these evil women, is free game on abusing men.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 12:44 AM
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Is like a dragon ball z fusion of both movements, both words combined. Imagine mra and feminism geting together in a sub to put in place a voting system where only the statments that get 95% mra and 95% feminist of the vote get a pass to become a hyper MRAxFeminism statment, basicaly to figure out what can be common ground if any at all.
/r/MensRights21/01/23 12:40 AM
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MasFecumilisnism (word for men) Femasmicunismlism (word for women) (feminism mixed with masculinism xD)
/r/MensRights20/01/23 11:50 PM
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LOL
/r/MensRights20/01/23 10:48 PM
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It allows it because society is incapable, it has no means, it doesnt have the balls, the nerve, the spine, to punish, make accountable, disdavantage, to take away anything from women. Therefore all the burden fall on mens back, and everythign must axiomaticaly always be mens fault, because if its not, then is women fualts, wich means women must be resposnable for something, wich is impossible, off the table. Thats the conclusion i come up with so far at least.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 10:11 PM
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Question is not ''can'' they do it, anybody ''can'' do anything as long as the laws of physics allows it, the question is will they do it, and with the same effectiveness and so on.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 10:05 PM
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you can take them to the park and purse fuck together
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 06:46 PM
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The term is politicaly unviable we will never use it as men right activists. If the term were to isntead be change into ''toxic standars placed on masculinity'', then i can support that, but the term ''toxic masculinity'' is off the table. The main problem with that term is that it implies many wrong things, like masculinity on itself is toxic, or that women and femininity have nothing to do with it, is too obtuse for its purpose, it causes more harm that help. The reason men were and to alesser…
/r/MensRights20/01/23 06:36 PM
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No because im antifeminsit not antiwomanist
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 05:06 PM
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Grandma is not gonna die, they will send the big guy to do all the dangerous work while paying him the same they pay the unfit diversity hire eating donuts back at headquarters. They will make dudes do all the heavy lifting while half of the staff is female death weight making the job twice as hard for those guys with no retribution.
/r/MensRights20/01/23 10:44 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that all of this irrationality is happening within feminism because of a crucial obstacle that feminism is simply incapable to cross over: Making women accountable when they deserve it. As time goes on it becomes more and more indeniable that if equality is the goal then women need to be made accountable as well in some areas where they deserve to be, and women privileges needs to go once and for all. But feminism has no tools or narrative or any sort of will of eve…
/r/MensRights20/01/23 09:29 AM
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I liked that survey is well done in my view
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 09:24 AM
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Yes by instilling a narrative that blames everything on men across all institutions of our society. From the women vote without the women draft in the first wave, through removing the housewive gender role while keeping divorce rape intact in the sexond wave, to the corporization of the crippling of mens capacity to progree in society using forced female quotas across many different layers. Feminism dehumanizes men and perpetualy jsutifies hurting men for the sake of women. Feminism is putting a…
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 09:06 AM
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The question is when the need comes for someone to do something that is risky to hurt them, were men preferentially chosen to take the risk, regardless of the technological level they had. What techonoly does is to remove the those needs as it increases, but for the remaining needs at any given time theres still the desicion to be made of who is taken the rish, who is putting their flesh on the line, i dont see those as special circumstances but rather the opposite, theres no shortage of dangero…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 09:35 PM
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It makes sense for women to hunt and gather equaly as survival was even harder as hunter gatherers so they wouldnt be be able to afford having women not hunting and gathering to similar degree, and they probalby even lacked the esential trivial capacity to socially coordiante things like ''gender roles'', wich on themselves require a minimum level of development if that makes sense. But i wonder if in the hunter gatherer times men would still be the ones protecting women, as in for example when …
/r/MensRights18/01/23 08:27 PM
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Happy to help :)
/r/MensRights18/01/23 10:53 AM
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Completly one sided to favour women, currently marrying is the worst desicion a man can do.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 02:19 AM
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Traditional gender roles are a sort of agreement between the genders for each to play the role they are most productive at because in the past being productive was far more imperative, as opposed to today where basic needs are taken for granted and people fight over how to divide the pie rather than how to get the most pie for everybody if that makes sense. So people will today say things like ''woman can do x'' ''men can do y'', but that was not the question in the past, the question was what g…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 01:46 AM
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Do you think of yourself or have you in the past as heterosexual? I think i was born straight but because i got turned off so hard of pursuing women i started tying to get comfortable with being sexual with men. Is a very slow process but it seems like im definitly getting there eventually, although as bisexual since i dont think i want to lose attraction for boobs and pussy because i love to watch hot models and be open to the sporadic super casual sex with a woman here and there.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 02:37 PM
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Makes perfect sense, im planning on doing it myself as a mgtow.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 02:29 PM
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They will learn the hard way when they crash into reality and will not deserve our compasion, but when it comes to who is to blame i blame feminism for brainwashing them to use them. Basicaly the problem is feminism, simps are the symptom.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 01:36 PM
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You are not taking into account the gargatuan brainwashing campaing feminism is shoving down mens throats through propaganda and censorship using empathethic manipulation. Of course some men are actually the simps you talk about, but i see the majority as victims of feminism backstabbing thier trust.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 01:30 PM
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Gaslightning piece of shit
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:26 AM
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Oh my god you are so smart im convinced now im a feminist 10/10 argument jesuss fucking christ
/r/MensRights17/01/23 10:22 AM
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We men have no tools to defend ourselves against women, as women are being given more and more power in society, there is no more protection from women given to men. Women holding power means women can now hurt men in very real ways, yet society is still treating it as if women have no power to hurt men. This contradiction is destroying men all over the place in eveyr wya, psychologicaly, financialy, physicaly, sexually, you name it.
/r/MensRights16/01/23 10:04 PM
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The problem is feminism, remove feminism and replace it with an egalitarian force that cares as much for men as it does for women and problem solved. The ''war'', the conflict, is cause by the enforcement of double standars, for example banning the mgtow sub while keeping the femaledatingstrategy sub in place. The sub that tells you women want to milk you like a cow gets banned, while the sub that tells you is ok to milk your low value man like a cow stays up. Double standars like taht are being…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 10:00 PM
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as expected haha
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 07:42 PM
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yes correct
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 07:36 PM
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I rather a million times over being consider weaker rather than being the one suffering the dangerous stuff, to me that is a cyrstal clear women advantage and i would trade those roles any day. My point is that gender roles affect both genders, and the way they should be tackled is in a way that attends both genders needs simultaneously. So if feminism tackles women being considered weaker and having a harder time being respected, then at the same time, they should be tackling the male expectati…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 06:44 PM
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Interesting, as an antifeminist i have a different explanation, i think expecting boys to do the dangeorus stuff is rooted in the overprotection of women, in the empathy gap that benefits women. Basicaly is harder for people to witness a woman suffering that in it is to watch a man suffering, something inside of us biologicaly drives us to protect women more than men. As a man i see that as me being disposable, and as a huge disadvantage,a s my life and suffering being valued less. I dont expect…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 06:02 PM
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I truly believe feminists have no capacity for empathy for men and your reply just keeps proving that to me. One more question, can you name a male gender role that is negative for men that was and/or keeps being perpretated by society as a whole both men and women? (so i wont accept the answer being the fault exclusively of patriarchy aka men, it has to come from women as well).
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 05:52 PM
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Tell me what feminism does to fight against misandry apart form blaming all if it on men.
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 05:41 PM
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This assymetry makes sense biologicaly to put all the genetic diversity production on the male side, males are disposed and filtered to get the best genes possible, while female genes only really matter in the reproduction sense, wich is why twice of our ancestros are female because male ancestors were disposed. That would be the biological root of male diposability, wich then branches across our social and cultural dynamics. A clear example to me is how, while 70%+ of homeless people are male, …
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 11:25 AM
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I appreciate it, im not comparing the genders but rather the social rules placed on them, specially when it comes to material policies like laws, social programs and affirmative action type stuff, when it becomes more real than just a cultural ideation, and as an antifeminsit i belive currently feminism holds monopoly on these and is being astronomicaly unfair towards the male popualtion on how it is managing them.
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 01:10 AM
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So maybe this is interesting to you, from my point of view what you just did is a deflection, but because you are expressing yourself so politely i understand you dont mean to do it so i give you all the benefit of the doubt. Ill explain, i dont think we are talking about men vs women here, we are talkign about feminism vs antifeminism. The genders themselves are both flawed and diverse and morally equal, thats irrelvant to me as it should be to you in my view. Feminism is enforcing this double …
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 12:48 AM
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My believe, my spine, what drives me, is fairness. So for example, does body count matters? Depends, does male body count also matter? Is virgin shaming men bad as well? Is making fun of men who are not sucessfull dating and having sex bad? If it is, then judging women for their body count is bad, if its not, or if the problem of shaming virgin man is ignored, then body count in women does matter. Does it make sense? My concern are the double standars. I see incel shaming as the male equivalent …
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 12:31 AM
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My antifeminism developed over the years as i observed more and more how disposable i am to society as a male and how feminism fuels itself on male disposability like a predator over its pray bleeding corpse.
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 12:02 AM
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That sounds amazing, but i wonder what happens when theres any sort of conflict, for example one of your girlfriends starts dating someone you dont like, does the relationship end there?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 11:59 PM
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Nice interesting :) Do your girlfriends, fwbs and platonic also have their own other relationships as well? Do they tell you about it or ask for permission or anythign of that sort? A quad relationship 2 male 2 female would seem like the most optimal dynamic for bisexuals right, alternitevly replace the missing part with fwbs haha
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 09:10 PM
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Dude for the love of god learn how to read
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 07:31 PM
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Exactly, is like men need a womans permision to have sex with her to deserve dignity and respect
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 05:15 PM
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Men get shamed and judged for being virgins is not a ''whamen most affected'' phenomena, by women who think their vagina is so important that changes what a man is.
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 05:10 PM
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ok thank you :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 05:08 PM
1

Nice so in that example both in the couple are doing the new girl, does it also happen that one does a new person while the other doesnt engage at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 05:00 PM
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Interesting, how so? Do they ask for permision to have sex with other specific people?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 04:54 PM
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Im not against it just curious, what would be the difference between polyamory and sleeping around with friends with benefits?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/23 04:21 PM
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They are pretty exciting not gonna lie (adults)
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 03:13 PM
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Because if they admit what they want then they can be held responsable for it
/r/AntiFeminists12/01/23 03:02 PM
0

Exactly feminism has destroyed masculinity without doing anything whatsoever to replace it properly, we were left behind alone on our own to figure out what to do. In my view gender roles only made sense as complementary, the moment the female gender role was removed, also was the male role. Our roles emerged from a time where pressure to survive was unavoidalbe, people didnt have the luxury to create their own life in the capacity we ahve today, the only thing that matter was to do the most pro…
/r/MensRights12/01/23 11:40 AM
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Is very simple, because theres no mechanicsm to make women accountable when they deserve it. Theres no social tool to punish a woman when necessary. Without that, normalcy will never happen again. And it was the traditioanl conservative society whom fail at this i remind you, they fell into the empathy trap. If masculine men should protect women at all cost, that contradicts itself when the time comes to punish a woman, thats the bug in normalcy that caused the crash of society software.
/r/AntiFeminists11/01/23 02:03 PM
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Accusations like this without examples are worthless you people call everything you dont like hate that word means nothign to us anymore.I despise feminism with every bone of my body, women are just human beings like me, if maninism was a thing doing the same then i would be agaisnt it too, the problems are not the genders but the cancer onse sided biased supremacist man hurting social movement.
/r/AntiFeminists11/01/23 01:53 PM
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Because they know no help is coming and the future is only getting worse
/r/MensRights10/01/23 10:05 PM
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Top tier comment well said
/r/MensRights10/01/23 06:17 PM
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Is a very slow process almost 10 years so far of slowing dipping my toes on it with porn, before i would never thought it would be possible to enjoy it but now im starting to crave it, still on process thoug, is a very differnet experience for me at least is not like i look at men in the same way i look at a women, is a whole different sensation, like eating ice cream is differnt than eating steak yet both are food.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 02:18 AM
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Personally im slowly bisexualizing myself and if one day becomes necessary ill legally identify as woman to avoid being abused.
/r/MensRights09/01/23 11:04 PM
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Just do the best you can according to your personal circunstance, your wellbeing is always priority over politics. If its viable for you to speak up do it, if its not lurk, any help helps.
/r/AntiFeminists09/01/23 09:32 PM
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More like the deliberate beating down of men.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:55 PM
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You are testosterone gigachad brother
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/23 05:54 PM
3

Exactly 2nd wave feminism created 3rd wave feminism well said
/r/MensRights08/01/23 12:38 PM
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Female supremacy that is currently severely damaging men across the board. I could not care less about the wikipedia definition of feminism, i watch what feminism DOES with the power it holds and is always man hurting biased one sided female supremacists policies. The equality thing is just a lie to get their way, feminism has never done anything whatsoever to take away from women and give it to me for equality, feminism only goes one way, that is not equality, that is supremacy. Women vote with…
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/23 12:35 PM
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AMEN brother
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:55 AM
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The logical falacy of ad hominem follow a logic of course
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:55 AM
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So yes ad home
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:26 AM
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why so you can ad home how is that relevant
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:09 AM
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Im not talking to you dude you didnt even read my comment before.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:02 AM
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Because this is the core fundamental obstacle paralizing men rights from progressing (not not being allowed to use lipstick and cat ears), the inhability to hold women accountable, sponsored by feminism, until that is fixed men issues will just keep growing.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:01 AM
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Exactly
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:53 AM
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You do hold the man accountable, now your turn
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:50 AM
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My comment had nothing to do about romance have you even read it.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:46 AM
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Simple question, a while ago i read a story about a boy being bullied school by a girl. She would poke him with a sharp pencil every day, everybody in the clasroom knew including the teacher, but because he was a boy and the bully was a girl, nobody would do nothing about it. One day he finally punches the girl back, and he gets suspended and everyone treats him like shit and he was asking for help desperatly, asking ''am i not supposed to defend myself, does my suffering not matter because ima …
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:44 AM
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Oh no i accidentaly broke your brain apparently haha my bad
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:40 AM
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Hey bro how about having my back for once
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:33 AM
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I think both are equally responsable, but i dont think any of them are a problem, the problem is feminism or any unfair abusive social rule or policy towards one over the other, the genders themselves are not a problem or something to complain about, the social rules on them are.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:29 AM
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I dont think this discussion can be had without mentioning women. For example what comes to mind about what can be done to help men to accept that we can be weak or tired is to look at what women are doing or have that allows them to accept it on themselves and copy/encourage that on men.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:27 AM
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Holding women accountable is acknowlodging that they now share equal responsability. I reject any message that implies women are not equally responsable for social issues. Im doing my best to fight against feminism by developing a narrative and arguments against it, i dont see any feasible progress in men rights until that happens.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:17 AM
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I dont see that at all
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:11 AM
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We cant elevate men without holding women accountable.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:05 AM
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Feminism did work, we are currently suffering all their male damaging policies and narratives across the world. It doesnt matter how much we the bros love our boys, because girls can still bully them all day without accountability anyway. Imagine this scenario, girls bullies boy, what are we ''the bros'' supposed to do about that? We love you boy but we cannot do anything about that girl bullyng you. Im the bro that wants to stop that girl from bullyng him. We can ''have their back'' but only in…
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:03 AM
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To the contrary this post is just another opportunity to adjudicate all the blame and responsability on men. Theres never ever going to be any progress in men rights until women are held responsable in an equal way, theres no way around that. You gaslight it as ''complaining'', equal accountability is not complaining and you should understand that.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:49 AM
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Nope, from the get go women need to respect mens rights full stop, thats the ''inclusivity'' we need. Since women got the vote they are equally responsable for the wellbeing of men as citizens. My men rights start when women are made accountable in an equal way for our social problems.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:40 AM
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Why only bros will have their back, what about sis having their backs? Society as a whole need to have mens backs, wich is the real issue here.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:35 AM
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Mens we are becoming more relevant, and they are usefull to keep us sharp hehe
/r/AntiFeminists08/01/23 01:41 AM
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Im way to RPd for that by now, but i appreciate your repentance brother, spread the word.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 11:47 PM
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Women are not ''out performing'' anything, they are being quoated and artificially graded higher and treated better and made everything easier for them.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 11:39 PM
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And why did that happen my friend, what did it took a massive shit? Did it hrandomly happen out of nowhere? WHat is yoru explanation for it? Spolier alert, first wave created second wave, second wave created the third wave, its all the same feminism.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 11:35 PM
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Is not about them, is about the ideology, people are just people. For example they say women are treated like objects, but the same exact thing can be said about men, treated like ATMs, like workmules, like tools to do the heavy physical labour for them, like objects of protection, and so on, men are objectified all over the place YET FEMINISM CAN NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT wich is why we need to take it down. The problem is not the female problems they care about, the problem si that they DENY mens…
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/23 11:33 PM
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Not until machines eventually become capable of replace us, wich means we need to win the social battle
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/23 11:28 PM
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Individual peopel calling themselves feminsit are irrelevant, the movemetn itself, the ideologyu, the policies that feminism pushes onto society, the narrative that spreads onto culture, thats what we oppose. Any person good bad dumb smart can call themselves whatever, that line of thinking leads nowhere. Feminism narrative is that everythign is mens fault, period, and i oppsoe that with every bone in my body, regardless of what eny individual feminist might do being bad or good thats irrelevant…
/r/AntiFeminists07/01/23 11:18 PM
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MGTOW for life
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/22 08:10 PM
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You are derailing moving the goalpost this conversation is over. Feminism is female supremacy
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:14 PM
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Women vote without women draft is female supremacy. And not you cannot argue that geopolitics shouldnt exist that snot an option. Theres no universe where women voting how men die at wars is equal in any way shape or form. Women education then without doing anything for men education now is female supremacy. https://www.thelocal.se/20100112/24330/ When women are underrepresented, feminism uses quotas, when men are underrepresented, all of the sudden quotas are bad. Thats female supremacy, and th…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:06 PM
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If you open your eyes at all to the real world you can clearly see theres no simmetry at all in practice. Feminism holds 99% of the power positions and capacity to influence society and apply policies in any gender related area. Comparing feminism to MRA as if they are mirror images is like comparing a fighting club with the whole army. It is absoltuly correct to say that feminism is caregoricaly female supremacy if you look at all to the things they actually DO, i dont care what they ''say'', i…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:58 PM
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Ive been there last year and banned by that same moderator TooBiased, is a feminist trash sub like any other
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/22 06:45 PM
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We are cleaning up to the best of our abilities the destruction and suffering that feminism is causing.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:44 PM
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Absoilutly nothing, feminism is female supremacy.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:43 PM
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I dont care and i dont even think of it as an objectification or anything bad at all, the only thing i care about is if theres double standars when compared with doing it with women. I also think many men like it because is feedback of what we should look forward to look like, and if theres something men need is feedback and guidance we are really really lacking those. Makes sense when compared with the past because men in the past had a more defined path forward and guidance of what they should…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 08:02 PM
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I really dislike who the first quote frames it int he feminist toxic masculinity sense, wich is one that excludes women and femininity of beign responsable of this phenomena as well. For example one of the main reasons traditional men dont want to be perceived as homosexual or vulnerable is because women will not respect them or be attracted to them them if they do. That comes from femininity, nto form inside masculinity.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 12:39 PM
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Feminism crucial core flaw is that it has no capacity to say ''no'' to women, it has no capacity to take anything from women, it has no capacity to punish women where they do wrong. So i think the question comes down to, how do we make women accountable when they deserve to be? Thast the tool we are lacking, wich leads to gynocentrism. And i think the reason we lack that tool is due to a very significant empathy gap. So at the root what we need is to generate, produce, equalizy empathy for men. …
/r/MensRights28/12/22 12:25 PM
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I agree in sentiment but i also think the reason traditionality fell is because it was flawed to suit a modern society, basicaly traditional roles werent able to keep up with societies booming in technology and wealth. As society modernizes small differences become more important, so a role of ''men do this and women do that'' becomes to blunt and low resolution to work properly, it needs update. I think the ideal is for traditional roles to be openly encouraged BUT the shaming of those who dont…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 11:55 AM
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Love is a fairy tale, i think you have to let go, you said it, she does not care, you cant live in this emotional rollercoaster because is going to destroy your psychologyt, tell her that, either a stable peaceful enviroment or you are out, and she will not comply, so you let go. As far as i can tell you cant even be sure the kid is yours.
/r/MensRights28/12/22 01:28 AM
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I believe through the narrow of my spine that theres a gigantic empathy gap being purposely ignored by feminism because it doesnt fit their women oppressed narrative and because it would mean that women also need to give away their privileges to actually achieve actual gender equality. The male gender role has always being male disposability aka ''women and children first''. So think of anything related to fatalities, live expectancy, suffering of all kinds physical emotional financial psycholog…
/r/AntiFeminists27/12/22 07:18 PM
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Did your daughter tmention why she thinks you should start dating?
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:48 PM
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So they can learn to reason logicaly
/r/MensRights27/12/22 04:45 PM
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I oppose it with every bone of my body
/r/PussyPass27/12/22 04:42 PM
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We are not specificaly talking about our wife or baby, this applies to women we dont know and have no feelings yet they still get prioritized over us. You cannot equate wife/baby = women, you do whatever you please with your loved ones , it has nothing to do with men issues and rights. Or would you still want random women you dont know or even dislike still get prioritized over you?
/r/MensRights27/12/22 02:30 PM
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Im not feminist so i dont believe women were oppresed by men in the past, but rather both men and women self organized by gender roles wich both had advantages and disadvantages for each, less empathy for men vs less freedom for women. This was because in the past hunger and safety where the primordial priorities that people had, not muh rights. Then fast forward to feminism wich gained its power by feeding from mens rights blood, gaslighting men disadvantages as non existent, blocking and paral…
/r/MensRights25/12/22 12:57 AM
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It is ant not only that, men are disposable to any sort of damage, physical, emotional, financial in all sort of ways across the board. Empathy gap is the crux of all men issues.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 11:43 PM
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Thats because a woman can never ever under any circumstance be blamed for anything, nothing can ever be womens fault no matter what. Once you understand that then everything makes sense. The reason everythign should be solely mens resposnability is because if it wa snto then women could be held accoutantable, and thats off the table.
/r/AntiFeminists24/12/22 04:53 PM
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That without saying that she being bad at sex is suposed to be mens fault.
/r/AntiFeminists24/12/22 04:30 PM
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Yes and feminism is the corporatization of male oppression
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:02 PM
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incel is the sexual slur ''whore'' equivalent for men saying an incel opinions doesnt matter because he doesnt have sex is the same as saying a whore opinon doesnt matter because she is a too slutty| sayin incel only applies to those who identify taht way is liek saying whore applies only to those who identify that way
/r/AntiFeminists24/12/22 12:35 PM
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Because nothing whatsoever can ever ever be womans fault. Ever. It doesnt matter how ilogical or unfair or ridiculous the means to avoid blaming a woman for something is, it is physicaly impossible by quantum physics law that a woman be guilty or accountable for anything whatsoever.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 06:53 PM
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I think it all boils down to an empathy gap, male disposaiblity, ''women and children first''. My focus personally would be in increasing empathy towards men in a fundamental sense and in a relative sense compered with women. We need to instantiate to society that male suffering is not valued enough, and is valued less compared to female suffering. I think thhts the seed from wich all men issues branch from.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 12:13 PM
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Exactly , im 34 and i get a fair amount of signals just by mindining my own bussiness, just by going grocery shoping the cashier signals me, or at a restaurant the by the waitress and so on, and this is while im in terrible terrible shape, im 260 pounds at the moment the max ive ever been, but i have a very wide nice upper back wich i believe is my most attractive quality for women, and a nice beard and deep voice and 5'10. So i can only imagine the signaling i would be getting if i actually got…
/r/TheRedPill23/12/22 11:08 AM
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Is 100% bad
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:01 AM
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Of course it is because thats exactly what is getting in the way of mens rights.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 12:41 AM
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If theres no evidence he sexually assaulted her then nobody should be harrasing him wishing him death either, that is medieval monkey mob behaviour, witch burning hysteria, anybody attacking him should have their reputation destroyed and harrased with death wishes isntead.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 12:21 AM
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Easy, just turn gay on her, you are curiuos about dick, sorry gal not into clam team anymore, is not you is me (dissapears in smoke like the road runner).
/r/MensRights23/12/22 12:09 AM
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Yes but you have to take into account the gargatuan campaing of propaganda to brainwash men into accepting everything women no matter what, right from childhood, so i have some SIMPathy for them because of that, i see them as victims of feminist gaslight.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 10:51 PM
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The proper way to refer to this is that ''most rapist are male'' as oppose as ''many males are rapists'', the characterization that matters in the rapists is that it rapes not that it is a man, is not representative of the male group as a whole, is <0.0..% of men who are rapists. Judge people by their actions not by what they are. Of course if you are alone in a dark alley with men youll fear more by inmediacy, thats fine because you have incompelte information and no tiem to get it, but not as …
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/22 10:29 PM
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Because then it opens the door to use the same logic against women in every regard, wich they obviusly dont becaue they use doble standars.
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/22 10:24 PM
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Ok so basicaly you want to signal back but a less intense signal that the one you received, i presume as you said the intention is for her to be the one chasing you, therefore she has to be the one putting more effort and signaling at all times, at least thats how i imagine it working, and you just smoothly go along with it directly to the bedroom.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 09:28 PM
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I see, the post comes across a bit agressive i guess thats why people are being agressive back, but i cant tell you know what you are talking about. What do you think about mgtow or monk mode then if pussy is not a priority, how do you see a no pussy or limited pussy lifestyle, do you think pussy even though is not the priority is still fundamental to your fullfillment, or is it just a wet juicy boost to your life? Ive being out of the ring for years but im consiring coming back just for some ca…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 09:24 PM
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I bet she beleives in astrology, thats the mindset, anything goes, the universe is made out of feelings not atoms.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 09:10 PM
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So do you yourself also look at her with fuck me eyes, or i guess ill fuck you eyes?
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 09:09 PM
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I think it depends on your style, playing your advantages, maybe you are better at the cold rather thah warm, what im saying is that theres value on both, although i concede in an eviroment where people know you is better to warm approach. So you look bad when rejected by cold approaching, but you also look good when scoring while cold approaching, thats a feat that has meaninful value as well, and an experienced cold approacher probably knows how be rejected without looking so bad. Practice in …
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 09:03 PM
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Interesting, do you ''acknowledge'' to her that you received the signals immediatly? How do you play that? Do you mirror the signals? Or do you keep fishing for more signals, make her work harder, tease her, pulling and pushing, if that makes sense.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 08:59 PM
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5% can be better because you can cold approach women indefinetly, just approach 20 and you got a hit on average, while ''warm approach'' is limited in amount right, you got 1 shot daily with 80%. But taking into account what you said ill say that is better to cold approach in places where people dont know you as for your reputation not get tainted in the ways you describe, while warm approach is better in places where your reputation is relevant i can agree with that.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 08:48 PM
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If you wait for women to send signals to youll either have a sexless death waiting for signals that will never come OR you are hot enough that you would never have the need to cold approach in the first place. Maybe a better advice would be on what to do to receive more of this signals, but just waiting for them to happen is not viable imo.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/22 08:34 PM
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Then i dont care what you think about promiscuity shaming, im not having one withour the other.
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/22 05:52 PM
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The whole point christian marriage exist is to organize against human mammal nature. If you leave humans without any social culture pressure structure, what you end up with is the top alpha males fucking most of the women while the rest of men get no sex and serve as workmules for the pack. That is raw wild human nature, and is actually increasingly happening mroe and mroe as society moves away form religion into Tinder Instagram sex. My arguemntis only an IF/THEN argument, if slut shaming woman…
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/22 05:34 PM
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Is not the same because the genders are not identical (thats the whole point of biological gendes, to compliment, not to be identical in practice). The inverse applies, slut shaming women is the equivalent of virgin shaming men. To men a woman that has slept os not appealing as a mate in the same way a virgin unexperienced man is not appealing as a mate to women. Sleeping around is hard for men, while is not for women. What is hard for women is to stay virgin while infinite sex propositions arri…
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/22 05:22 PM
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Amount of individuals is the most significant, but amoun of sex overall is also a variable that matters but to a lesser degree.
/r/AntiFeminists22/12/22 05:18 PM
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The fact that she is even asking for ''anything she can do'' is serial killer level uncanny
/r/AntiFeminists21/12/22 10:59 PM
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Nice i appreciate this i wish more women thought like you. I ask this to women like you when i have the opportunity, you described why you are antifeminist, but why do you think we found ourselves in this situation in the first place? Why did feminism get this way? Why are women being advantaged in this way? Because of feminism yes, but why? What is the driver of this mess? I suspect it might have to do with an unacknowledged (natural/constructed) empathy gap that favours women, or also it might…
/r/AntiFeminists21/12/22 09:08 PM
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Im classical liberal, im not sure where that falls, somewhere between center left and center right. I believe and i encourage antifeminism to accept all political leanings, our only and exclusive goal should be to push back against feminism, everything else is irrelevant.
/r/AntiFeminists20/12/22 11:01 AM
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Ok but even if thast true they wouldnt be able to do it if it wasnt for feminism, like a tiger without teeths or claws.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 07:00 PM
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Think about it this way, if feminism double standars and unaccoutanbility were to be applied to men instead, dont you think men would abuse them as well? Is a matter of granting unfair power to a group of people is human nature. Like if society was fine with men bullyng women with no repercussions or even celebrating it or punishing the woman, you would see a lot of men bullyng women i think.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 05:48 PM
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Now they do it because they know they wont be punished or even celebrated or the guy will be punished instead. Feminism puts the evil side of women on steroids.
/r/MensRights19/12/22 05:13 PM
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I need feminism because i need an excuse and a sponsor to sucessfully be a hearthless sociopathic bitch.
/r/AntiFeminists19/12/22 12:30 PM
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I like what he says, but his bussiness university thing is obviously a scam to predate on damaged guys. So what he says is good but what he does is bad. And by good i mean is things that need to be part of the conversation, but in my view is flawed, because his worlview doesnt allow for average or weaker men to really exist, its too all-in as in ''become winner or die trying'', nah i think it depends on each individual and their circumstance, but the option does need to be there for men to know …
/r/AntiFeminists19/12/22 11:02 AM
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Feminism is female supremacy from its very inception. The only way to egalitarianism is through feminism dead corpse.
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 02:32 AM
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Its 2 different scenarios, the man that has a wife that fullfills the compelte housewife role does not care for alimony, the man that cares is the one that has an entitled wife that does nothing and hates him all day yet still the divorce court will side with her in everything no matter what. And the reason is not ''fear'', dont emotionalize everyhting men do, if you want to reach men outside of feminism stop gaslighting us implying our desicions are made out of irrational fear, i varely care to…
/r/AntiFeminists18/12/22 02:30 AM
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Thank you for sharing. Id like to point out that imo they reason why there are so many dudes inexperienced with women is for the most part because of this women group behaviour of over exaggerating male creepyness that you are talking about. Think about it, how are men supposed to get this ''experience'' under this agressive enviroment where if we make the slightess wrong move, if we breath the wrong way, we will be punished and our reputation stained, we cant even openly admit our inexperience …
/r/AntiFeminists16/12/22 09:26 PM
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Yes this is actually what we want, i dont care how hypegamosu they are as long as they admit it that works for me, the real damage is done by the obfuscation and lie about this imo, if men know what the truth is, they wont get hurt, and if they do then is on them
/r/AntiFeminists16/12/22 09:14 PM
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If a woman can get an abortion in any situation then theres no need to specify the rape situation. I think the question only makes sense when a woman doesnt have access in any situation, and rape becomes a special situation with special access. Of course if a woman has access in any situation false acussing is pointless.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 09:55 PM
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Yes with the very important caviat that it needs to be done in a serious competent non-feminist way that wontincentivize women to false accuse men just to get their abortion, there needs to be robust competent protections for false accusations.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 07:41 PM
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Here is the problem, this will explode the false rape accusations through the roof. OP and you re assuming the rape is 100% real and proven, so it depends on how well it is implemented, if the woman only needs to say ''i was raped'' without any more proof then it is a problem.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 07:12 PM
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Im sorry thats ridiculous and thats why im an antifeminsit because of thinking like yours. Men have always had a severe disadvantage with everything related to empathy, lfie expectancy, fatalities, lethality, physical violence and so on. The only reason you are able to frame it in such a sociopathic way to only define women as lacking privileges back then is because you are purposely narrowing privileges to what specificaly disadvantaged women, what a convenient coincidence that all that matters…
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 01:42 PM
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What about women not being drafted in the bloodiest century in history how is that not a privilege?
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 01:31 PM
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''Did the first wave feminism recognize the privileges women had?'' ''They generally did'' Im sorry but i demand you give me an example of first wave feminism recognizing any female advantage. You said yes without giving any example.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 01:16 PM
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Welcome to the matrix Neo. Feminism has never being for equality, they always ''said'' they are for equality to get their way, but is a manipulaive lie, they have never ever done anything not even begin to try to have a serious competent discussion for the equality for men or to equalize any female advantage (theres a single exception ive seen wich is they have included men as possible rape vicitims in some places, but thats all theyve done in 100+years of feminist policies). So is not that it h…
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 01:11 PM
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Exactly, they are not exclusive but they are not inclusive either, empowering can just as well be a pure creation of inequality. Equality implies and requires both empowering and depowering women, feminsm only cares and has ever cared uniquely for the former, inevitably turning into this misandrist snowball of hatred towards men. You support depowering women in some areas, but feminism does not, feminism only goes one way. It has corrupted those good things by removing the male perspective from …
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 10:11 PM
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You will at 35 as a grown professional capable ''daddy'' because we peak at that age.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 09:57 PM
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I think thats because women#notall peak at your age, but i doubt you are going to be jelous of women#notall at their 40's if that makes sense. I recommend you do some of your own research on the advantages of being a man, mgtow and so on.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 09:49 PM
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It is demonstrably not ''right now'' it has always been this way from day 1, thats why i ask you to point at anything that feminsm has ever done to equalize men, is not ''right now''. Voting without drafting is not equal, is empowering yes, feminism lobbied for female empowerment yes, of course it did thats the only thing it cares about, but i didnt lobby for equality, equality is demonstrably not a feminist principle, is just a lie to get their way and has always being. Feminism is not and has …
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 09:47 PM
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I think what you are saying is demonstrably wrong, because the fact that feminism has never done anything to equalzie a woman advantage in more than a hundred years is unarguably because feminism does not care in the slightest about equality for men, is a lie and has always been a lie. The only thing feminism has ever cared, cares and will care for is FEMALE EMPOWERMENT. Thats it. To feminism it doesnt matter a single bit what is equal or not, feminism only goes one way, take power form men and …
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 09:24 PM
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What im saying is that feminism claiming that it is its ideal to elevate all people is a complete lie because feminism has never ever done anything to equalize anything that advantages women. So my intention is to point out that this a lie and is demonstably not true that feminism actually holds that principle, is just a lie to get their way, to look good to the innocent ignorant to abuse their support. Can you then point to anything that pre beauvoir feminism has ever done to equalize a male di…
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 09:10 PM
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''I agree with feminism on the principle that, ideally, its about elevating all people to the same level of equality, for example by uplifting men/women in some areas and knocking them down in others'' I challenge you to point to a single thing that feminism has ever done to lift men, and/or anything that feminism has ever done to knock down women on any area in the name of equality in the last 100+ years.
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 08:51 PM
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I think is interesting to them, what would they do that would be interesting to you? you havent given an example. As a general rule women are more interested in people while men are more interested in things.
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 08:48 PM
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Thats because ''not complaining'' is a male gender role, is the same that happened and still happens in western society, paradoxicaly we cannot complain about gender roles because our gender roles is the role of not complaining. A ''real man'' doesnt cry remember?
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 07:20 PM
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Im strongly against of confabulating race in any way shape or form with antifeminism, this is not why im here for, i only exclusively care about gender issues fullstop.
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 02:25 PM
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Yes there are. In my country (argentina) we have a ministry of women and men have to do a mandatory gender violence course to be able to get a drivers license. This supposedly dormant ''good feminist mayority'' does nothing whatsoever to push back against bad feminism, nothing, they might think inside their head ''i want equality'' but in the real world, in real practice, every single policy that has been the product of the feminism movement as a whole has always exclusvely gone one way: taking …
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 02:17 PM
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But that my point, they used to ''say'' they advocated for equality, yet they never did nothing whatsoever to even try to equalize female advantages, not even begun to even try to discuss it, sufragettes from day 1, left or right it doesnt matter, there was never any real demonstrable intention other than empty words. Its clearly demonstrable that it was a lie, that feminism has only ever used the word equality just to get their way, but never intended equality when you look at their actions, yo…
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 09:20 AM
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Exactly, so the problem is feminism from day 1, nost just leftist modern wokism.
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 08:06 PM
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I think it has deepr roots than a general human random failure, and it was determined to fail because the feminist theory was flawed from the start by not including a proper way to take away fro women, even form the very first day of the suffragettes, there was anever a serioues competent discussion on that. For example could you point at anything whatsoever that feminism has ever taken away from women in the name of equality?
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 02:47 PM
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I understand, but why. Why did the wokeist and feminist have gotten too ahead of themselves, did it randomly just happen out of nowhere? I think it happen because old feminism failed properly setting the rules on women, they failed at taking away female privileges, they didnt have the guts to say NO to women, they didnt have the guts to send women to war to die as cannon fodder, they didnt have the guts to take children custody away from women, they didnt have the guts to hit back at women when …
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 12:57 PM
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For example, lets say a traditional ''gender roled'', maybe even antifeminist, woman expects a provider man that earns X a year, that is capable of fighting, sexually potent and profecient, brave and well educated, so an overall amount of masculinity. She, as it is traditional or ''gender roled'', will in exchange give her part of value in an amount of femininty. Thats great in a vacuum, or even in a traditional society. However when you add feminist domination of society to the equation, that m…
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 01:02 AM
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It doesnt matter what woman thinks this way or not, because feminism applies to 100% of women, even if it is the most antifeminist woman in the world, feminism still will benefit her and threaten all the men around her, the individual women thinking is irrelevant, under feminism things will alwayws be unfair to men no matter waht her opinions are. And is not realistic and is increadibly unfair to expect men to be masculine under feminist society, i can understand and support it after feminism is…
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 12:07 AM
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I do not blame this on men at all, not a single bit. This is 100% feminism fault. Men opened their arms to the idea of equality, to be backstabbed by one sided misandrist feminism in return. So hard disagree on who is to be blamed. In my view, men being feminized is a consequence not a cause, me included. You know, i used to feel the standar male inner desire to strive to be masculine, until i became aware of feminism hold of society. The double standars are so insulting, humiliating and disgust…
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 11:48 PM
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I think is great should have happened sooner. Men need to wake up.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 11:31 PM
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The problem is that the ''normal'' feminism does nothing whatsoever in the slightest to push agaisnt bad feminis, thast it. They ignore it, pretend it doesnt exist, maybe varely acknowloedge it quietly if they dont have other choice like you are doing here. The patethic starved lack of pushback from normal feminsim againts bad feminism is so acute and disgusting that at this point all feminism deserves to be destroyed, the damage is already done.
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 11:21 PM
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Modern Feminism is indeed delusional, sexist and unrealistc, but the real question in my view that many people of your opinion dont seem to be making to themselves is why has feminism it turn into this monster, what happened, what cause the transformation? I believe this change was doomed to happen because feminism from the very start has never even begun to consider how it would apply accountaiblity and punishment towards women in an equal manner when they deserve it, it has always being only a…
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 11:16 PM
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Feminism indeed has become a joke, but the real question in my view that many people of your opinion dont seem to be making to themselves is why has it become a joke, what happened, what cause the transformation? I believe this change was doomed to happen because feminism from the very start has never even begun to consider how it would apply accountaiblity and punishment towards women in an equal manner when they deserve it, it has always being only about giving stuff to women, it has never bee…
/r/AntiFeminists09/12/22 11:13 PM
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Gender roles for thee but not for me
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:27 PM
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It is true mostly depending on how it affects women emotions around him. So if it is an emotion that has nothing to do with any woman, just a private thing of his own, idk for example his dog died, then he can be shamed for it but to a lesser extent because it doesnt affect any woman. The real shame and persecution comes when a mans emotions gets in the way of a womans emotions, when they collide or compite for attention, the woman emotions will be valued much higher and men will be shamed and p…
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:20 PM
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You can provide the red pill, but they have to take it by their own will.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:03 PM
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Im some micro ways but if i could give an arm to destroy feminism i would.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 07:01 PM
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If abortion, then paper abortion. If not abortion, then no paper abortion.
/r/MensRights25/11/22 06:59 PM
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Thats called the apex falacy, the most succesfull peopel being male does not men in any way shape or form that men have more opportunity thats completly invalid as a logica argument. For example, 70% of homeless people are male.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 09:27 PM
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I think i instinctively was feminist up to my early 20s although i wasnt politicaly aware so i never called myself a feminist but i was very aware of treating and trying to engage women in an equal way to really get to know them as human beings, but in practice that never really ended up working. In my experience equality only worked for things that were outside of relationships or sex, but when it came to those, women seemed to not want to let go being treated in their special way as women and …
/r/AntiFeminists23/11/22 08:00 AM
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All criticism of this sort NEEDS to come with examples, otherwise is completly pointless and worthless. You saying that you see ''women bashing'' things here means nothing to us because that can mean anything and is always blown out of proportion, is meaningless. We need actual real concrete examples of what you mean by that otherwise not worth even engaging with this and you will be downvoted to hell.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:17 PM
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As someone with a pseudo-sociopathic, demonic, grotesque and intense thirst of revenge and an inability to appreciate or empathize with the male experience, so much that they would destroy their families, society and the entire world before admiting women are to be made accountable or responsable or to be blamed for anything whatsoever, or that they hold any sort of privilege in life. A creature that has completly legitimized and rationalized in their head that men must suffer and pay to mold so…
/r/AntiFeminists22/11/22 01:13 PM
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I understand that all im arguing agaisnt is this falacy that women had it worse under ''patriarchy'' because they werent able to leave abusive relationships. Im of the stance that ''patriarchy'' aka tranditional gender roles where disadvantegous for both genders at a similar level overall, tahts the whole point of living under gender roles is a sort of agreement between the genders to divide labour, you get this men get this advantages and disadvantages in exchange of women getting this advantag…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:18 PM
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Everything that has to do with disposability, men always had it worse ''women and children first'', for example being drafted to be murdered is a disadvantage. Women had disadvantages in ''power'' while men had disadvantages in ''empathy'', our suffering didnt matter, we needed to be ''real men'' and the ones who fail were and are forgotten and disposed. Feminism presents this apex falacy scenario as if all men had great jobs in a marriage and women were this perfect innocent angels and men alwa…
/r/MensRights20/11/22 10:09 PM
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I think is a problem that you think traditional gender roles were unfavorable for women, they had disadvantages but so did men as being disposable, thats the feminist brainwash talking. Women can be drafted, they dont have to fill the most physicaly demanding positions, they can do many support military jobs that also invole risking their life. The man has to take care of the pregnant woman thats how that equalizes.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 09:57 PM
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Because feminism has appropiated and corrupted the social capacity to progress towards equality. For example if you want iranian women to not be beaten if they dont wear a hijab because you believe in equality, the only way to achieve that is to also at the same time acknowledge all the ways men are suffering and being disadvantaged in iran. If what you instead do is only focus on the women issue, not only ignoring men issues but gaslighting and demonizing anyone who wants to talk about them, th…
/r/AntiFeminists20/11/22 06:27 PM
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The reason is very simple, if the goal is real equality that necessarily entales making women accountable and punishing them when they deserve it, but feminism, and progressivism ingeneral is incapable of doing so, they will destroy the entire western world before punishing a woman or acknowleging any female privilege. So the end result inevitably becomes female supremacy.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 04:13 PM
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That sounds amazing please do :)
/r/MensRights20/11/22 02:03 PM
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That would be fine if it was equally applied and not only benefiting women while ignoring men wich is what is actually happening.
/r/AntiFeminists20/11/22 02:02 PM
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We have being trying to reason with feminism for decades and it only gets worse and worse it simply dosent work we have decades of gaslighting that proves it.
/r/MensRights20/11/22 02:00 PM
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But why is this simpery happening? I think is because of feminist propaganda and censorship painting an overpositive image of women that brainwashes to beleive women are these perfect innocent angleical victims that must be simpined because that the only appropiate behaviour towards thes godlike creatures. I see (for the most part) simps as victims of feminist one sided culture because they will sooner or later crash with reality and get hurt by it as many of us did. So the solution is for the m…
/r/MensRights19/11/22 11:30 AM
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Interesting, education from childhood makes a lot of sense, although women would still have to first allow that education to take place for the next generation of women to be educated like that, so how are we convincing them on that? remember they still hold the vote and many more powers in society. I think because things are already screwed the way they are, in a sense women will have to submit by their own will one way or the other, so i wonder how are we convincing them on that and why would …
/r/AntiFeminists19/11/22 01:26 AM
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Welcome to the matrix Neo Im from latin america and here is even worse, in argentina we have a minsitry of women and is mandatory for men to take a gender violence course to be able to get a drivers license just to give a few examples.
/r/AntiFeminists19/11/22 01:16 AM
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Lol for the sake of argument lets say they get deported, how are you abolishing womens vote after that, or keep them in the home as obedient housewives, they will give it away enchanted by the alpha masculinity, we will irradiate so much masculinity from our male body that they will just obey?
/r/AntiFeminists19/11/22 01:08 AM
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I think so yes to the extent that a FtM can really understand male experience. The few stories ive seen show that they identify the double standars and disadvantages men have that they werent aware before, but they still dont seem to truly understand why and how this advantages are the way they are if that makes sense. Still very valuable for our cause.
/r/AntiFeminists19/11/22 12:55 AM
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How are you going to abolish women vote without women cooperation? Are they just gonna be enchanted by the alpha masculinity and just give it away is that the plan?
/r/AntiFeminists19/11/22 12:52 AM
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Yes but in order to do that good feminists would need to stop naming themselves ''feminists'', because when they defend the feminist label they are defending bad feminism along with it, and as you said good feminism doesnt have any real control of the feminist movement and is clearly a minority so theres nothing to gain by dying on that hill anymore. So first we need to sort that out, if regaining the feminist label is mandatory then i would want good feminism to develop a clear Apology, Explana…
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/22 06:24 PM
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Guys are not dumb, they are brainwashed and betrayed wich is a very shocking and0traumatizing experience that deserves serioues respect an apoligies. Guys are bombarded from birth to that day with the message that women are these innocent perfect angelical victims that would never hurt them. Then when this happens you are somehow surprised they get used by women.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 11:43 AM
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I disagree. The situation is not symmetrical, feminism holds all the power in the conversation, i wish it was a simple and easy as to be a symmetrical situation, but is quite the opposite. The conflict is caused by the double standars feminism imposes with their overwhelming power advantage. I saw you say ''theres good feminist'', they might ''say'' they want equality, but nothing is ever done, where are the feminist protest, marches, academic theory, advertise, studies, investments towards mens…
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/22 10:35 AM
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i dont think theres anything whatsoever you can do, ignore her and go to japan
/r/AntiFeminists17/11/22 11:36 PM
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How does this relate to ''patriarchy''? Remember that term is almost an automatic downvote here haha.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 04:15 PM
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Ok so, with all due respect, for antifeminists to take waht you say seriously this is what we need: Explain WHY and HOW feminism has completly changed into this radical and men hating form. My Why and How. Radical feminism didnt randomly happened out of nowhere, it was created by feminisms imcompetence and incapacity to impose accountability on women when they needed to be. With power comes responsability, original feminism granted power to women, but never got around imposing the responsabiliti…
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 04:01 PM
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She own his life basicaly, so what happens depends on her will, he might get lucky, he might not, i see it as playing reversed russian roulette with only one cartridge empty.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 03:51 PM
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Well im sorry to tell you that feminism is composed of 99% radfems then. If you dont think so i challenge you to post this same message on the feminist sub. Also what you say would imply that feminism should be actively opposing radfems, and i dont see that happening anywhere, feminism ignores and enables radfems.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 03:46 PM
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Your totally right dude cut her off and get real friends is not even a hard desicion to be honest.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 08:14 PM
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Thats true, yet ''patriarchy'' is also failing, wich is why feminism has been able to take over society, so theres flaws to it as well it could be argued that it is also an utopian concept. I think there has to be a middle ground where differences are acknowledged yet we are not anchored to social rules designed at a time where we didnt even have computers, we need a ''patrairchy'' that can adapt along changes in society.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 02:55 PM
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Welcome to the matrix, Neo
/r/MensRights14/11/22 11:36 AM
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Telling other people what they feel is gaslightning 101, wich is the only rethoric feminists know how to do.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 11:36 PM
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Thats not analogous, at an equal crime men get higher sentences, wich is not what is happening in the wage gap, men are getting a higher pay at a higher work, not at the same work.
/r/AntiFeminists13/11/22 11:35 PM
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We men need empathy, lots of it. Just by explicitly talking about it and spreading the word as a woman you are already making a difference.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 11:31 PM
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What do you mean? Men suffer and have always suffered the vast mayority of murders. And here you are showing a crystal clear empathy gap on the murder subject, the subser minority of spouse murders somehow matter more than the overall rest because what men suffer is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 03:42 PM
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As a man i believe this stems from the lack of information, not porn and so on. Women as a group profusely refuse to ever talk about it, to give information to men about sex. You can even see this in women subs, all sexual questions are downvoted, frownd upon, not engaged, or extremly poorly answered. Men are starving for information, descriptions, prescriptions, preferences and so on from women in the sexual subject. But theres gigantic forcefield of ''this is creepy, disgusting, embarrasing'' …
/r/MensRights12/11/22 11:13 AM
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Heres is my overall take after years of lurking this conversation. As a feminist she tunnel visions on differences in ''power'', thats the only thing she perceives or cares about, her world revolves around that. You need to point out to her that from the male perspective our disadvantage is differences in ''empathy'', something that she as a feminist is completly blindsighted to and it will be hard for her to even recognize it. Metaphoricaly you can think of it this way, historicaly a mans life …
/r/MensRights12/11/22 11:01 AM
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leftover hag
/r/MensRights11/11/22 06:56 PM
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Interesting i love this idea to practice sounds fun. Theres a pay gap because men work more on more productive positions, and this is not an objective advantage but rather a subjective choice once a person is above their subsistencial needs, and i remind you that 75% of homeless people are male.
/r/AntiFeminists11/11/22 03:27 PM
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Remember when they tell you what you feel, thats gaslightning.
/r/MensRights11/11/22 10:46 AM
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I dont care either way patrairchy or real equality both work with me as long as they are actually fair deals and not the one sided male hating structure we have now.
/r/AntiFeminists11/11/22 10:36 AM
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Basicaly feminism is doing a terrible job at working towards ''equality'', so we MRA are here trying to correct feminism wrongdoings, and if feminism is not willing to help to make this corrections, then we advocate anti feminism as is the only remaining option left for men issues to ever progress. The core root of men issues is male disposability, the empathy gap, ''women and children first''. As men our issue, our problem, is a severe lack of empathy towards us that women usually take for gran…
/r/MensRights11/11/22 10:15 AM
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I bet you my dick that if you ask every single one of those women if they are feminist they will say yes absolutly 100%.
/r/MensRights07/11/22 01:42 AM
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Guess what else has being going on for decades feminism
/r/MensRights06/11/22 09:50 PM
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Exactly, theres nothing more powerfull than a man that has nothing to lose anymore. That was a Sun Tzu rule of war, never put your enemy in a situation where they cant escape.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 09:28 PM
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It easy to understand, when the options to chose from are either andrew tate or feminism the choice is very easy to make. We are reaching a boiling point were men are going to support anything thats stands against feminism no matter what.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 09:14 PM
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We dont see being a mother as ''giving up a part of their life''. Also family courts are still functioning as if the mother is giving part of her life and i dont see any women complaning about it on the streets. You are never going to see equal marriage expectation from men until family court reflects that.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 06:16 PM
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Because its not being done focused on males that suffer it disproportionaly more while at the same time any issue that women suffer at a mroe disproportionate rate gets extra specific boost for women. ''most millionaries are male'' therefore society invests more specificaly into making more female millioanries with quotas and such, feminism is not advocating for more ''income mobility'' in general, is advocatign for female specific boosts. ''most homeless are male'' socety does nothing specific …
/r/MensRights06/11/22 06:12 PM
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Well to be fair we havent tried islam in the west yet, i dont know much about how things work there.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 01:39 PM
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This space is not designed to complain, it allows complains to be made in it, but its not its purpose. I have no interest in the example you give, i think complaining about feminism is good because is not a ''people'' is a political force. Showing intances of women abuse on men does pertain to men rights in our current social situation where we have an omnipotent feminist force stating into our instutions that men are to blame for everything and men issues dont deserve attention or resources, an…
/r/MensRights06/11/22 01:34 PM
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Nobody truly knows. What this information tells you is that the fact that what we have today doesnt work, doesnt mean that doing what we did in the past will work either. We need a new ideas that can adapt quickly to the new tech society. We need rules or roles that can quickly change along the quickly changing society, that include 21th century lifestyle where eveyrthing is made by machines and delivered to your home and you can reach millions of people from your phone while in the toilet. Howe…
/r/MensRights06/11/22 01:24 PM
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As someone that used to be much more radical i promise you is the opposite. What radicalizes is the censorship of this information, men being destroyed all over the place and we being shut down to even talk about it. Being able to see it in public is a massive releif of radicalism. Now onto your second paragraph, once you are telling other people what they feel thats called ''gaslighting'', so i think you are the wrong radical on that one. You do not get to read other peoples mind, thats not log…
/r/MensRights06/11/22 01:11 PM
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Not necessarily either because high quality activist post not only require much more effort to make, but also require much more effort to read and understand. This is not a professional space, this is an open space, where people are coming without any knowledge or understanding and they slowly become more adept of mens rights. This is my personal case as well, i came here much more radical and ignorant that i am today, this place has helped me deradicalize and get a better understanding of whats…
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:58 PM
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I understand but why did it fall then if it was so functional thats the paradox. As the traditional housewive role was replaced by microwaves and laundry machines, the male role was also replaced in some sense. This is why we want equality isntead because the current state of society and technology is so ''unnatural'' and unpresedented that i think traditional gender roles were simply unable to keep up with it if that makes sense. Even in teh scenario that we decide to organize ourselves by gend…
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:50 PM
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You dont understand the ''economics'' of reddit posts. You are obviusly going to see many more low effort posts than high quality post because is much harder to make the later. There is plenty of usefull high quality stuff here, but you are obviusly you are not going to see them poping out every 20 minutes because thast not realistic.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:44 PM
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If men working and women cooking is not a dysfunctional state, then why did society change into what it is now in the first place? Isnt the fact that society changed in a way proving that the traditional gender roles dont work anymore with the current level of technology and so on?
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:38 PM
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My rule is that gaslighting is jsutified to be used when the other person tells you how you feel. If a feminist says to me that im ''intimidated by strong women'', thats 100% gaslight 101 and the conversation is indeed over at that point.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:07 PM
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Im not reading anything past ''Ever heard of logic? I guess not.'' Not wasting my time.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:04 PM
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Interesting read, what i got from that is that before nature itself used to be the cosntraining politicla compass, but once we surpassed nature, its up to us to make it. I still wonder how should we make it though, what should take priority.
/r/MensRights06/11/22 12:03 PM
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See? You are blaming men for all thats wrong through the concept of patriarchy, is the perfect excuse to hurt men. Women do all of that as much if not more than men do it, yet by naming it patriarchy, you end up saying ''is the same men''. And every feminist does it by valuing female suffering more than male suffering, as i mentioned, they feviently oppose and invest much more resoruces againts slut shaming, while they do nothing whatsoever or they even weaponize virgin shaming, if a woman virgi…
/r/MensRights06/11/22 11:56 AM
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patriarchy is a feminist conspiracy theory they use to justify hurting men
/r/MensRights06/11/22 11:48 AM
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Is too long to completly read it, but i think what i would say to her is that it is true that is not taboo for men to have lots of sex, but on the other hand it is taboo for men to NOT have sex, men are virgin shamed. And this is a crystal clear example of the feminist blind spot, only perceiving the world through womens eyes, they understand slut shaming perfectly, but virgin shaming seems invisible to them, wich then leads them to believe that only women are sexually shamed.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 09:23 PM
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Very interesting thank you. As a real leftist then, in the current social situation, what would be your political prescription? Humanism how more precisely? Maybe something like abandoning gender advocacy and instead advocate to fix human issues, for example instead of advocating for less violence or rape agaisnt women, we would instead genderlessly advocate to reduce violence and rape as a whole, rinse and repeat across the board? If so, then my question becomes, how to prioritize what issues s…
/r/MensRights05/11/22 07:35 PM
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Interesting, how would you as a real leftist explain gender social differences, do you believe in patriarchy? Did the right wing created gender differences? How?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 06:27 PM
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Because i think the only way to get into an egalitarian society is for men rights to get a sit on the table. If there was a strong egaltiarian movement capable of adressing men rights set up i would jump boats onto that one, but it doesnt even begin to exist is just in our imagination. I would ask to you, why do you think there isnt a strong egalitarian movement already in place to begin with? I think is because men rights dont have a say so egalitarianism quickly mutated into feminism.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 06:21 PM
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I wouldnt say ostracized but rather they need to be reality checked. Having children lowers their value as a mate (not as a person), so if they shouldnt come to the relationship entitled as if they didnt have kids. Maybe i would correct it to ''entitled single moms'' should be ostrazied, if a single mom acknowledges she carries a severe disadvantage as a mate (not as a person), then we can talk.
/r/AntiFeminists05/11/22 06:16 PM
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Dam, where would you say is less corrupted by feminism then?
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/22 08:04 PM
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Why is that?
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/22 08:03 PM
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I dont think feminism is equality at all. Feminism is female supremacy, female empowerment, it only cares and looks for the female perspective of life and only works towards building a society that accomodates female needs and preferences not only ignoring men but gaslighting them and hurting them in the process with a touch of cold revenge. And no i do not care about what wikipedia says feminism definition is, all i care is what i see feminism doing in the real world.
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/22 03:43 PM
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They proportions would still remain. I did some small research and i found that not only ~70% of homeles people are male but female homeless got 2-3 times the aid. You can say based on that that women suffering is valued around x5 times more than male suffering. So lets say theres 1000 homeless people from wich 700 are male. Then we advocate for public social care to reduce homelessnes to 100 people, the result would still be 70 male 30 female with twice the aid. The equivalent would be to tell …
/r/MensRights03/11/22 03:38 PM
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I would start in activist spaces like this one becase this is still in the proto-stage of development. We need to do the groundwork that feminism should had being doing all this decades but neglected and still does. Feminism focus is gender differences in ''power'', which is why the orbit around the concept of patriarchy. Our focus on the other hand must instead be gender differences in ''empathy''. To identify where and how is male suffering specificaly being less valued. For example i see femi…
/r/MensRights03/11/22 03:01 PM
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thank you very much
/r/MensRights03/11/22 01:07 PM
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I would bet for eastern europe countries like Romania where Andrew Tate lives.
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/22 01:07 PM
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Is the marxist mentality that all that matters is how much raw power collectives hold. Basicaly they think of women as this one dimensional ants collecting power for the women hive.
/r/AntiFeminists03/11/22 01:05 PM
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The way i see it men issues can be boiled down to ''male disposability'', or the ''empathy gap'', ''women and children first''. As in a ''culture precedes politics'' way of thinking. So i think that a more interesting ''meta'' solution is to invest on shrinking this empathy gap, to aid and encorage men to provoke more empathy on others. And it occurs to me that a big part of this is to ''appropiate'' the traditionally female behaviours and expressions that most effectively generate empathy, but …
/r/MensRights03/11/22 12:57 PM
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Exactly, what study, do you have link? :)
/r/MensRights03/11/22 12:37 PM
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Im right there with you. However Jordan Peterson is awesome and has nothing to do with the alt right.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 12:24 PM
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And on top of that society is using our taxes to exclusevily help women.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 12:14 PM
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How would you work on those behaviours and traits? I think at least some are rooted in its narrative itself, for example i think the dismissal and disrespect for men blooms from how the patriarchy narrative is constructed and explained. In mi view this is what needs to be worked on, they would say something like men held societies power because women were regarded as weak, very simplistic, emotional and one sided explanation that breeds hatred of men. There needs to be deeper and richer explanat…
/r/AntiFeminists02/11/22 11:54 AM
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Funny that you mentioned that, the titanic is the perfect example of male disposablity. https://www.anesi.com/titanic.htm
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 09:04 PM
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Ok i appriciate the discussion is being enriching for both i bet. As expected we dont agree on reality but thats ok. Last thing i would like to point out is that men have other options, if we MRA and feminism dont manage to ally somehow, is feminism is not willing to bend an inch to acommodate our worldview, then men are going to flock to much harder antifeminist stances than MRA is. As a graphical example, Andrew Tate has just announced he is joining Islam, and many men will probably follow, th…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 08:59 PM
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So messed up, the cycle of life makes so much more sense as families, working for your legacy, big family reunions, all that good stuff, instead of being promiscuos comrade units in our lonely deparments working for corporations.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 03:18 PM
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That is even worse it disgust me so much when they show their ''revenge'' intentions and justify hurting men. Exactly gaslight does more damage than one would expect, making men issues invisible. And double standars are not acknowledge to avoid adressing isntances where women are the ones with privileges. Feminist equality only goes one way. Exactly, they go straight for the personal attacks, the accuse of hate, ego, fear and so on as if thats the only things that guides though process. Some of …
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 03:16 PM
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True they are degrading society i remember we used to look up for progress as a united society and loving families. Good times.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 03:10 PM
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Ok as i said we will not get to a objective reality agreement but ill give you my vision. The core fundamental root of men disadvantage is male disposability, the empathy gap, ''women and children first''. We have hold money/power on average, but in exchange our suffering is valued less, women were less free, but they were more protected. Here is a metaphor, traditionally a mans life could have being ranked anywhere from 1 to 10, while a womans life was guaranteed to be between 4 to 7. So yes wo…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 03:04 PM
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Look i understand we are very far away politicaly, but that in a way makes this dialogue interesting dont you think? When talking with someone that has a worldview that is so vastly different is not realistic that we will reach agreement on what is really happening in the world. However we can at least point to understand how the other person worlds looks like without concedeing any of its reality. So i dont expect you to walk out of here believing that men need boosting, but i try to at least m…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 01:36 PM
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What we think is that you neglect, deny, ignore or gaslight mens need of boosting. We as any other class of people also need boosts, but they are clearly invisible to you. This is why this has turned into a war, because there doesnt seem to be any possible real dialogue, how can we discuss with you something that you dont acknowledge is real? THe only other option for us is to work to take your ideology out of power so we can ever progress our own issues. As long as feminism says that men have i…
/r/MensRights31/10/22 01:22 PM
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OK i had enough of you insulting me fuck off.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 05:15 AM
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I dont think that is true, i think for every women looking for sugar males or house husband theres at least 10.000 men looking for the same. Its a landmine of posibilities, the rules of the game are all set against men, theres no way to know until is too late. The person you divorce is never the person you married. And i do not beleive for a second that most women dont see their partners as disposable, sorry, not in a million years, thats just happy talk delusion. I guess we just live in differn…
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 05:14 AM
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Well i speak for myself, you do not get to tell me what my masculinity is, dont even bother. Gay would just be gay since by definitiosn they are not following traditional gender roles, this pertains to straight relationships.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 05:04 AM
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I dont agree with the momma point. However the way i see it is either we both get gender roles or noone gets gender roles, im happy to live in either universe. Our current universe however is one where women can do whatever they feel like, while men are still boxed in the disposable provider role beside superficial trivial progress liek wearing pink and be softer.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 05:00 AM
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Im sorry to hear this, have you tried r/supportfortheaccused ?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 04:00 AM
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I completly agree well said.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 03:36 AM
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To me thast fine as long women get their equivalent education being raised into femenine women. I think the reason why traditional masculinity has fallen has a lot to do with women abandoning their traditional femininity. At least for me, a big part of my motivation to be a strong masculine man came from the desire/duty to be the ''complement'' to femenine women, once theres nothing to complement with, it loses its meaning, i no longer desire to be traditionally masculine.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 03:24 AM
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Yes but the same could be said about women traits. Also one thing is to promote or encourage masculine men, and other thing is to ''raise'' them, the later comes across as more imposed.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 02:56 AM
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Exactly, one thing do on raising strong masculine men, does that include raising femenine nourishing women? Or maybe thats included by unduing all the damage feminism has caused. Me as a man dont find fair to be required to fullfilled that roll while women arent required to fullfill theirs in return if that makes sense.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 02:49 AM
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Exactly is a conspiracy theory backed with real power.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 02:12 AM
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I despise that word and how usefull it is to hurt men.
/r/AntiFeminists31/10/22 02:05 AM
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In particular 4th wave feminism advocates for the removal of ''innocent until proven guilty'' for sex offenses against women (4th wave is the dominant feminism in my country we even have a ''ministry of women'' to give you a sense of proportion). I imagine as a woman that consumes that media you dont have the experience, but is not just about the formal false accusations made, the amount of extortion and threats women are making thanks to feminism is growing exponentially ''do what i want or ill…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:19 PM
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Is a very politicalized issue, thats why i put it in its own ''antifeminist'' category if you will. This means that instead of having a consensus, we have two polarized positions on the matter. For example my stomach twerks when i read that an ''innocent man that did nothing wrong life get obliterated by the society that should isntead be protecting and caring about him'' is comparable in any way shape or form or ratio to a criminal getting away with a crime. Not a single innocent man shall be s…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 11:06 PM
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I believe the root of men issues is male disposability, the empathy gap, ''women and children first''. Basicaly our suffering is often not valued enough or simply ignored. Once you identify that, i would prioritize the issues that cause the most raw suffering, things like suicide, homelessness, murder, work related fatalities and so on, including lesser resources dedicated on male medicine/medical research. After that theres the family issues from paternity fraud to divorce court to our domestic…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 10:49 PM
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Im on the same path, i think nothing else makes sense under this feminist paradigm, unless one wants to play russian roulette with his quality of life. Like if OPs wife was the traditional femenine submissive loving housewive then yes sure i can play my male role and be disposable and tough in return, but under feminism no thank you i rather chew on glass.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:42 PM
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Thats rough man, every day is more clear to me that i will never marry.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:09 PM
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There is a double standar in the acknowledgement of issues, slut shaming will be frowned upon while virgin shaming will be ignored or even promoted. But theres an ''inverse simmetry'' in the actual preferences themselves, in general women#notall want experienced men, while in general men#notall prefer the opposite. Im not actually sure what the more healthy thing would be, probably whatever brings respect and dignity for both sides.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:51 PM
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Slut shaming is to women what virgin shaming is to men. Women#notall will not respect men with less expedrience than them, while the opposite happens the other way around.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:41 PM
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Right so i found myself interested in figuring out why do women hold such a substancial empathy advantage. An idea is that men might have to learn and (in a way appropiate) some of the female characteristics, expressions and behaviours that might be key to provoke adquire empathy from society. But not in such a way of ditching masculinity but rather just as taking the most effective female elements and adapting it i a way that would fit and enhance masculinity, the motivation been the promise of…
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 09:54 PM
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In fds woman talk about how is ok to milk their low value man like a cow, you can beleive whatever you want, but that level of dehumanization is not a joke to me.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 08:13 PM
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Ok yet to revoke womens vote you would still need women cooperation on it remember they hold at least 50% of the ''wheel'' of society now. So even in this scenario women need to be part of the solution.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 05:37 PM
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Cannot be done under feminism, when women grabbed the vote it came with a share of responsabilities. Every single ounce of power women have is entangled with an ounce of societal responsability. The days of putting the weight of society on mens back are long gone. You cannot hold power and pretend men to solve eveyrthing at the same time, you can have one or the other not both.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 05:31 PM
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I love the idea of starting a wiki. I believe the core fundamental root of men issues is male disposability, the empathy gap, ''women and children first''. What do you think about that?
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 05:12 PM
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I mean whatever it takes as long as it it actually works in real life not in our heads. However what experience shows is that this type of women will immediatly take advantage of the good men without a single shred of remorse. Weve being doing this for decades and it only gets worse and worse.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 05:07 PM
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haha then to your view why do you think fds is still allowed in reddit? what is feminism doing about that?
/r/MensRights29/10/22 05:05 PM
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An example just occurred to me, you know how boys get drilled into their head that girls are this angelical beings made of glass that if you touch them they explode (being a bit poethic here but thats how it feels like). I would like to see something of this sort equivalent for girls, to teach them in a way to not abuse boys either emotionally or socially because they clearly hold the upper hand on this front (insert proper poethic here).
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 01:07 PM
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Me neither tbh as well haha, but i think is a start, we should probably try to find a humane and proper yet effective way to discipline these women, ideally designed by women themselves.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 12:49 PM
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I suspect it is because theres no available effective way to do it, if this is true then it would be like we were asking them to nail a nail without a hammer. I dont know what the asnwer is but is definitly looks worth looking into this.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 12:45 PM
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I understand, you are pointing at the problem, im on the other hand im pointing to the explanation and solution for such problem. ''we are losing our human side or even our rational part of seeing things'' is a problem, but is not an explanation or solution for that problem. You know how we men in general tend to be with problems, straight to the solution.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 12:14 PM
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I think this is because theres no available effective way to discipline these women that do this. And the uncanny shiver you likely got when reading ''discipline women'' proves the point.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 11:45 AM
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I deliberatly used the word HOPE and you know it very well. I my point is crystal clear and you have nothing other than personal attacks left, checkmate pal.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:12 AM
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To make a point, if the post said: ''I’d just like to say to each and every man … you are a gift to women that can’t be appreciated enough! Your work ethic and ability to provide and protect your families is second to none! I really wish you all an amazing day and keep up the good work 🥰 AND IN RETURN I HOPE EACH AND EVERY WOMAN is an amazing mother and help you raise many kids plus working full time on top and she is always there fore you when you neeed her'' THEN ill appreciate the nice lady a…
/r/MensRights29/10/22 10:06 AM
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Thats literally what it says. You know what id like to see added in to the post? What women do in return for this So lets do this, please type down for me the ''women equivalent'' of this post message and lets see how it comes across.
/r/MensRights29/10/22 09:55 AM
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Exactly, so think about this then, what if feminism is the cancer it is today because the only way to unite all women together is through the hatred of men? Sounds uncannily correct. Then it follows that in order to defeat feminism we must find a way for women to unite this strongly but through something else that wouldnt involve man hating.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 09:40 AM
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To all men... you are a utility to women! Your ability to mule work and cannon fodder always comes first! Keep doing it :)
/r/MensRights29/10/22 09:27 AM
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Wich is very interesting because it makes me think that maybe the reason why feminism is the cancer it is, is because trashing men might be the only thing thats capable of uniting women together. So a 5head way to take down feminism is to find another way for women to unite that doesnt involve hating men.
/r/AntiFeminists29/10/22 12:28 AM
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He literally bought Twitter and is firing all the woke people from it right now. He walked in Twitter headqueters with a ''sink'' on his hands to say ''let that sink in''.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:39 PM
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The Food and Drug Administration?
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:38 PM
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I think we need a stronger foundation yet for the mainstream to start acknowledging mens rights. Also i dont recommend mixing politics with family haha those people have a more important role in your life. The hope? Feminism is clearly declining as more and more people are being redpilled, although they still have an omnicient grip on institutional power. White pill, Elon musk has kicked their ass of twitter today :)
/r/MensRights28/10/22 09:16 PM
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Even some men are unaware of their own prostate since male experience is ignored men walk blind through life. I guess is a different way to understand emotions, the way i see it the rational thing is to avoid a snake, regardless if you feel fear or not, the feelings are just that, feelings, the rationale comes to play on the actions and desicions we make even if we dont feel anything. But i can clearly see now it was not your intention at all to gaslight so in this case my comment was uncalled f…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 08:10 PM
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Yes but theres a lot of work to be done to clean the mess.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:40 PM
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Hugs
/r/MensRights28/10/22 07:38 PM
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Interesting, from the manosphere perspective there seems to be a clear strong sisterhood going on, but it occurs to me this might be because when it comes to men the sisterhood does exist. Maybe women savagely compite with each other, but when the time comes to join together againts men, then the sisterhood is undefeated. Does that makes sense, what do you think?
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 07:18 PM
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Your feelings are valid since two psychologial traumatic experiences happened to you at the same time: sexually violated and betrayed. However i honestly think you will be fine, nothing changed in you and people should understand why it happened if they even care at all. I encourage you to talk about it with people that show to be open minded from both sides of this topic, and if you cant find anyone, with therapists.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 06:19 PM
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Idk that paragraph came across to me very condescending and gaslightning.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 04:36 PM
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Exactly, this si the core root of men issues, male disposability, the empathy gap, ''women and children first''. Our suffering literally doesnt matter.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 12:18 PM
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My few experience there is that they go straight to personal attacks instead of replyng to the arguments. ''if you think that you are full of hate'' and stuff like that.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 11:24 AM
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The vocal few only wields influecne when the majority remains silent.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 11:13 AM
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Im antifeminst, i dont think a justification exits, but rather feminist are just drunk in power.
/r/AntiFeminists28/10/22 10:58 AM
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I cant speak for all, but i think we open our legs mostly because it relaxes the prostate to do so, although the balls appreciate some leg spread too. I understand that you are coming from a good place, but theres somethign that triggers me and probably a lot of men here, when you say ''many men are afraid to even blink'', is not an emotion, we are not just irrationally feeling stuff, the problem is not a feeling, this is gaslight in practice regardless of your good intentiosn or not. If you wan…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:55 AM
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No, women can either be empowered or be fragile like crystal, cant bounce between the two when convenient, not happening. Anything that men have to do ''because they are men'' is a gender role. If men get gender roles so do women, if not then noone gets gender roles.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 01:47 AM
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Argentina. Here is mandatory for males to go through a ''gender violence'' vourse to adquire a drivers license.
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 07:02 PM
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It depends, i would consider marriage as a huge risk. I think it has to do more with us not being sheep minded and dont care as much to follow the crowd.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 04:12 PM
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Excelent graph thank you :)
/r/MensRights27/10/22 02:13 PM
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Thats also true ill retract that economical point then, is not about how loving women are but how unabalanced the whole legal-cultural system is against men.
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 01:52 PM
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Makes perfect sense to me, it even makes economical sense because wealthy places tend to be the most feminist ones as well. Althought not always the case, in my latin american country we have a ''ministry of women'' to give you an idea of how feminist it is.
/r/AntiFeminists27/10/22 01:49 PM
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What makes me sick is when people say ''incel is just a term for men who self identify that way'' BULLSHIT is a sexual slur and everybody knows it.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:02 AM
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RIP friend dude sorry to hear that. I love your phrase though ''women cant survive college'' thats pure gold haha im writing that down.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:00 AM
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Because being rational inevitably leads to them having to take away privielges women still hold, and they will never ever allow that to happen. Thats why the only path forward for men issues to progress is to take down feminism.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 10:49 AM
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You can do it bro good job
/r/MenSupportMen27/10/22 12:36 AM
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Excellent well done brother gives me a smile :)
/r/MenSupportMen27/10/22 12:13 AM
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Gather evidence (record video/audio) and get the hell away form that abusive psychopath.
/r/MenSupportMen26/10/22 08:35 PM
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I wont ! Thank you sir :)
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:28 PM
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I see, i would add to that that he isnt just very articulate like Ben shapiro is for example, but he also puts all this knowledge together from Jung to Christianism to Evolutionary psychology to Pinocchio to the Gulag Archipielago to Psychodelics to Egyptian mythology, wich to my view makes him an increible thinker, not for creating anything in particular but for putting it all together in a masterful way like ive seen nobody else do. For example one thing he says that i love is ''hirearchies ar…
/r/MensRights26/10/22 07:12 PM
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Well i obviusly disagree, i just realize you are the same dude from the other thread haha
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:58 PM
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lol i havent finished the matt debate yet i need more tea now haha
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:57 PM
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Exactly he also debated that concept with Sam Harris and Bret Weinstein was the moderator :)
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:49 PM
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I love Christopher Hitchens rest in piece he was a god at using language to express and idea. The uniqueness of Jordan that im talking about is how he puts together all the loose pieces that those people you mentioned created on their own specialized more narrow fields. Jordan is like the glue that puts them all together if that makes sense, idk of other peopel that do this. For example Christpher was an expert on tiranny, yet he was clueless about science or Jung.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:47 PM
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I see, did you get any good point from Jordan side, like did he say anything that made sense to you that Matt doesnt talk about, or all literal word buffet?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:30 PM
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Care to give examples of other people that do what he does?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:25 PM
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Im watching it right now to find something to point to (good excuse to watch a debate with a green tea :)) I remember Matt couldnt answer something Jordan asked him, so Matt got all offended emotional like a feminsit would to avoid responding, and i instantly lost all respoect for him.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:16 PM
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I watched that debate and i think matt dillahunty was patehthic made me embarrased of being an atheist.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 06:06 PM
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JP talks about important stuff that nobody else talks about that im aware of, so he is unvaluable as a unique specimen of its kind. I was there on his first live stream right after oppposing bill C-16, good times. Ironicaly i dont care about his opinions on men-women because they are just evolutionary, i rather care about his views on tiranny, the truth of stories and the maps of meaning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io9xTYvfbkk&ab_channel=FreedomToons Ben Shapiro is one of conservativism bes…
/r/MensRights26/10/22 05:55 PM
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JP god tier of all the possible hirearchies *moving hands* Ben Shapiro god tier conservative (husband of a doctor) Matt Walsh, What is a Matt Walsh?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 05:37 PM
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Too black pilled armageddon. It is true that fundamentally we seem to be even biologicaly designed to be the meat grinded, however, in the past we were at least respected and acknowlodged for it, and we did took pride on it as men. So in the extreme limit where it might not be possible to change the nature of things at a fundamental level (equality as human beings), we can still demonstrably demand manhood back for it.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 03:43 PM
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Exactly well said :)
/r/AntiFeminists26/10/22 08:54 AM
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I imagine maybe i would tell everyone important in my life about what is happening, mayeb they have some good insight or can help somehow, seems worth it to share.
/r/MensRights26/10/22 08:44 AM
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What about your family and friends what do they think about it?
/r/MensRights26/10/22 12:32 AM
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Thats true, maybe talk to her parents since she is a child.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:53 PM
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Are you high on thc because i am also sounding
/r/MensRights25/10/22 11:17 PM
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What comes to mind is build up your social network, make more friends and met more people in general, even better if you build a build reputation for yourself as a good capable guy within your network. I think this is an important part of dating that is often forgotten, the social network that ''envelops'' your dating if that makes sense, from helping you to met woman to making it more attractive for her to become a part of your network. Kevin Samuels, rest in piece, used to talk about how impor…
/r/MenSupportMen25/10/22 11:01 PM
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Honestly the best cleanest way to meet a nice girl to lose your virginity is through good friends that know you and can introduce you or recomend you a girl they know. And of course make yourself a chad while preparing for her.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 10:54 PM
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omg i was gonna reply the same thing :)
/r/MenSupportMen25/10/22 09:16 PM
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Nice, even better if they are not just normal but actually aware of the situation and protect him.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 07:50 PM
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If his family is on his side thats a huge releif at least, the worst cases are the ones where the mother and/or sisters and so own are rabid feminists, i feel for those guys.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 07:37 PM
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Idk if it applies but something i crave as a man is to have a way to avoid emotional interactions when i dont want them, in a similar way that women might not want to be catcalled at any given moment. Sometimes i feel emotionally harrased by women in public spaces (men also do it some times), in a way ''forcing me'' to interact emotionally with them or else they will make a scene or cause problems for me, and i just dont feel like expressing myself or having someone else or a stranger get into w…
/r/MensRights25/10/22 05:51 PM
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I believe in general women#notall can endure longer and heavier emotional work than i can. They can cry easier than me, they can provoke empathy from others much easier than me, they have an easier time understanding other people emotions, and above all they can endure engaging with emotions much longer than i can. Think of the stereotypical example of the wife constantly beating down her husband emotionally to the point that he just does whatever she wants, ''happy wife happy life''. It doesnt …
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/22 05:16 PM
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I would go further as to say they are dehumazning men even the word hate falls short at this point.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:23 PM
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Cheers brother im happy for you.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:07 PM
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Im sorry to hear this. All i can think i would do is to, before is too late to abort, make it perfectly, redundantly and blatantly clear to her that you will not under any circunstance be there to raise that kid, that you will 1000% leave and she will at most get child support from you, like obliterate that bubble of hope she ahs that y ou will change your mind and ''she can change you''.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 01:06 PM
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I believe (cant prove it) that women#notall emotional system has the same advantage over mens that men#notall physical system has over womens. Yet society makes sure to triple check men dont abuse their advantage over women, while not just ignoring but envcouraging women to abuse their advantage over men.
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/22 01:03 PM
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Interesting, whats your thoughts on the apex falacy?
/r/AntiFeminists25/10/22 12:57 PM
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Freedom. Means you are free from caring about them as well. Enjoy an individual spiritual hermit life is better than you might think.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:43 AM
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I consider myself mgtow and i sympathize with your post of course with exception for this: ''It implies there are no decent women which is nuts''. It doesnt imply that because what is been looked into is not just how ''decent'' the women are or not, thats half the picture, what is being looked at is the overall package, the overall contract and deal. I dont think even the best women in the world is worth the costs, stress and risk of the current legal and social system, it goes farther beyond ho…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 06:32 PM
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https://womenspost.ca/owner-of-shelter-for-abused-men-and-children-commits-suicide-after-financial-ruin-ridicule/ is this the one?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:14 PM
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Ill join the attackers
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:43 PM
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I did read i dont see how any of what you said adressed men issues.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:23 AM
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Well we dont need to rush, i mean a narrative that doesnt have an ''enemy'', i dont mean an oppresion narrative, but a bening narrative. For example i reject the narrative of women being oppresed by men throughout history. My personal narrative is that men and women both loved eachother and agree to the gender roles they had togetehr for the betterment of eveeryone at the time, but as civilization progressed and got mroe wealthy and advanced we are transitioning to a society without gender roles…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:12 AM
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As i said we are so far away politicaly that this sort of discussion will lead nowhere, so the only productive thing that can happen i think is, if you may, to describe to me with more detail how exactly the patrairchy being dismantled solves men issues. So sure people are chosen by merit and no genitals, so how does that solve male suicide and homeless for example?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:09 AM
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I obviusly dont believe any of that is true, to my view thats emotionally histerical misandristic pseudocience. But because we are so far away in this subject it might be mroe productive if you want to describe somethign i wanna know about patriarchy believers, in your worldview how, when and by whom do men issues get adressed and solved? The patriarchy falls, women rule the world... so what? does that mean men automaticaly dont have issues anymore? are women in power going to save us and solve …
/r/MensRights20/10/22 11:47 PM
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A narrative doesnt need to be another conspiracy theory, it can be a narrative in a good clean sense that includes merit and real equality. For example antifeminisms narrative is something to the effect of how feminism corrupted itself into organized misandry and we need to get rid of it or at least change it back to what it was. That has the structure of a narrative, MRAs narrative can be something else not around feminism but around men rights themselves, how male gender roles and disposabilit…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 11:29 PM
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Politics is not a software algorythm that runs by cold wikipedia definitions. Politics is people handling power in corrupt and messy ways. With all due respect i could not give a dam about what feminism ''definition'' is, all i care about is what feminism DOES, what policies they push and dont push in practice in the real world. And all i see is one-sided biased unilateral female supremacist policies being pushed while any male issue gets gaslightning ignored and paralized thanks to feminist ant…
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 07:22 PM
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Is nonsense of course. The more interesting question might be what to replace it with, how do we explain the development of gender relationships throughout hsitory until today? I think the patriarchy falacy might still persist due to not been a better developed concept to replace it with if that makes sense. I think we need to push a more 50/50 lence of the past and society to be able to defeat it, we need a counter narrative basicaly, we often ehre just stand for real equality and merit wich so…
/r/MensRights20/10/22 06:28 PM
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True never though about it that way, maybe thats how the 80/20 sausage is made through their compounding expectations. As a man i agree i never even considered comparing a partner with a previous one like why would i makes no sense to me haha, i do have a like a static bar at like ''6'' smv and i dont touch anything below that, but because is static it doesnt compound of course. Btw if you havent seen this, you probably have but is gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkYNiKXf4ZI&ab\_channel=Wo…
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 06:06 PM
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Exactly, but then due these preferences, society starts malfunctioning, so thats where the shaming sparks from maybe. I imagine the ideal situation would be to get to a sort of agreement to bend our preferences both ways, women to accept us more in a 50/50 distribution which means they would have a similar body count to ours. Wich i guess is what you are saying right, I think as men we mostly dont ''prefer it'' when the woman has a higher bodycount that ours, but what if it was the same lets say…
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 05:24 PM
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Oh yes i completly agree on the one-sided unbalanced state of this. Like if you think about it for 20% to be sustainable every wife would have to have like 5 children at least right because only 20% of people would be married, then what happens in reality is a tsunami of single mothers. But at the same time is also bit unrealistic to expect women to keep their body count low like i imagine if we had it so much easier to get laid as they do, i would also be riding that carousel to be honest haha.
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 05:10 PM
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Wouldnt you say that been the 20 is women indicative of who they want as a husband in the same way body coutn it is for use for a wife?
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 05:00 PM
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Ok then how is it that FDS is allowed to be in reddit and not shut down like MGTOW was? I lurked that sub for 2+years and i can tell you FDS is at least 10 times worse in how they dehumanize the other gender not even remotly close.
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 04:58 PM
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Thats true theres a huge difference between a preference and a shaming attack. So it is fine for women to have the preference of ''80/20'' us sort of speak as long as they dont shame us about it.
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 04:44 PM
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True, but as antifeminists if we could concieve a world were we have beaten feminism down (idk lets say 20 years from now), how would you like it to be then, pure shaming on both sides or both sides agreeing to not shame eachother?
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 04:33 PM
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Feminism not repudiating FDS IS a problem with feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 04:29 PM
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Of course i agree, im speaking in theoretical terms, if theres incel shaming then slut shaming is justified and vice versa, if incel shamign is on the rise, then is legitimate for slut shaming to also be on the rise. The question is what world do we want to path towards or maybe it doesnt matter as long as shaming is equally applied on both sides.
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 04:21 PM
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Its a double edge sword, because as true as that might be, it also legitimazes virgin shaming on the same grounds or any other prejudice women have on men as well. So it depends on the context, if im going to be judged as a man then yes i will judge women, but if i get to not be judged by women, then i will in return no judge them if that makes sense.
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 01:39 PM
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Feminism is female supremacy
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 01:36 PM
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Because of the policies it pushes in practice, wikipedia might say that feminism wants equality, but in the real world that doesnt happen. I believe the core fundamental male gender role has always been male disposability, the empathy gap, ''women and children first''. Feminism does nothing other than reinforcing this making men pay for womens progress and sistematicaly prioritizing women issues over men sisues across the board. A crystal clear example of this is how in a situation where 80% of …
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 11:31 AM
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Sure what is there to talk about?
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 11:23 AM
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''1'' might 'say'' they want equality yet they dont shit about it either
/r/AntiFeminists20/10/22 10:17 AM
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Thats nothing compared to the damage feminism does daily demonizing males as disposable trash, if thats all we get in 100 years of feminism please get out of my sight we are far better without you. And dont equate feminism with women with me, feminism is not ''women'', is female supremacy, good women see through the gaslightning corrupt man-hating garbage.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 05:51 PM
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As i said the issue is the one-sided unlitareal biased female supremacist solution that is being presented and applied. You are aware of the issues yet what feminism is doing is only benefiting females on the expense of men making life much harder for men who are also suffering under the same issues you describe. Not a single cent should be spent on making wealthy females until homelessness is 50/50 and im dying on that hill because i think is a horrific social abomination that i even need to ex…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 05:23 PM
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Men are complaining because the only gender roles that are being eliminated are female ones while keeping male gender roles at play, wich in practice makes men lives twice as hard. The root male gender role is male disposability, the empathy gap, ''woman and children first''. All that society is doing is reinforcing male disposability across the board. A crystal clear example of this is hwo society is spending its attention and resources on making female CEOs and millionaries, while 80% of homel…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:58 PM
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I agree to some extent, but they also cover different cases with different results. To reach a scientific conclusion empirical data and precise if not perfect information is required, and also the capacity to process and understand that information perfectly, but the conclusion is capable of doing predictions with a high degree of certainty and is reproducible by others and so on. But what happens when you need to make desicions and reach conclusions without empirical data and precise if not per…
/r/MensRights19/10/22 10:28 AM
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Are you advotacting for responsable witchcrafting practices? :)
/r/MensRights19/10/22 10:01 AM
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We’ve been really touchy, flirty, cuddly Even on that context? I think he has been ''intimate'' to some extent in those ways already, the issue is more specificaly ''kissing'' rather than intimacy in general at least thats how it comes across to me.
/r/MenSupportMen18/10/22 10:39 PM
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Interesting, why so? Have you had bad experiences with it?
/r/MenSupportMen18/10/22 08:12 PM
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Haha makes sense, since witchcraft was basicaly the dark art of manipulating socials to harm others wich is why they were burnt in the past because they caused mayhem with the community (not advocating violence of course). For example false accusations are a modern version of being ''cursed''.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 08:07 PM
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Something that i would often to do (has been a while too) is to give her a small kiss before as a warm up and to mesure her reaction, like a small kiss in the (face) cheek, or neck, hands, her back, or wherever makes mroe sense in the moment. Preferentially when you both are having a good feeling, for example having a nice laugh about something, having fun and so on, basicaly when happyness is in the air.
/r/MenSupportMen18/10/22 07:25 PM
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Have you kissed girls many times in the past?
/r/MenSupportMen18/10/22 07:05 PM
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This sort of critque without example is worthless what am i supposed to reply to? No im not hostile because of ignorance and misconceptions. What a productive conversation.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 06:21 PM
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Literal hate groups
/r/MensRights18/10/22 06:16 PM
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I take offense on ''politics might not be your thing'', i got to go to sleep anyway, farewell.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 04:33 AM
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I think is too unpractical to use the word discrimination in that sense in this context, maybe differentiation? Freedom is what is desirable, free market, free choice, free expresion, because it treates humans as individuals rather than collectives. I dont think that follows, i dont think any functional analysis can be done other than the mediocrity i expressed before, i think engineering society with incomplete information is destructive not constructive, is playing god while being a monkey. In…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 04:22 AM
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I edited my comment above idk if you got a chance to see it. Im not following on what you mean by ''significant'' characteristics. You are engaging in intersectionality using morals, for example you are claiming that the gender pay gap is due to discrimination, i reject that entirely, and thats a moral judgement. I dont think unmutable gender can be objectively transitioned, but i support and celebreate transgender people to express as they like and be happy, i see it as the universal freedom of…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:52 AM
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I oppose any quotas, policies or collectives of any kind based on immutable characteristics. I support universal policies based on individual behaviour. For example technicaly i dont support ''gay marriage'', but rather i support the universal right of any individual to marry someone of their same gender, note the difference?
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:27 AM
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As i see it intersectionality treats human beings like we are insects, uncounciously driven by raw power and whatever its perceiving, and therefore the woke prophets of intersectionality will guide us to paradise through social engineering. I think simplifying the social ecosystem to a mediocre list of identities and conveniently selected variables (money as the most important) is destructive irresponsable pseudocience to say the least.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:07 AM
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Take my vote please :) i dont even knwo if its realistic or fake or whatever that gets my vote
/r/MensRights18/10/22 02:15 AM
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Theres nothing analitical about it is corrupt emotional hysteria disguised as an academic subject like every other parasitic ideology society has ever had.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 01:54 AM
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Men should cry? Yes More damage than feminist? Hell no For all that is wrong with the conservative view on men, it at least appreciates, respects and rewards men for their sacrifices, while paving a life path to pursue for them. Feminism is exclusively destructive and dehumanizing towards males without any upside.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 05:32 PM
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I personally dont as i mentioned, but he specificaly only cares enough about love without stereotypes to the point of having suicidal thoughts, wich is why i suggested to him he might be demisexual.
/r/MenSupportMen17/10/22 04:42 PM
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Maybe you are demisexual? Of course that would be ideal but we are evolved chimpances right haha, i think we are slowly getting there but likely not in our generation. Gender standars come from millenia of biology and social interaction from times that were very different than now, it is only very recent that society is wealthy and advanced enough to even being able to pay attention to things of this sort.
/r/MenSupportMen17/10/22 03:40 PM
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It occurs to me maybe is possible if you lower your standars deep enough, have you tried meeting ugly old fat shy girls? They probably found themselves in a similar situation. I have to admit im personally too superficial for that but you seem to care much more about pure love.
/r/MenSupportMen17/10/22 03:27 PM
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Have you looked into MGTOW? Ive being living that lifestyle for years and im happier than ever, it really does work. Basicaly this social paradigm has no place for us, so just leave it, we dont need to become suicidal to escape, just divorce yourself from the social paradigm. MGTOW/manosphere circles discusses how to develop an alternative satisfying life as a man away from the social trap we are born into. Dont get trapped in the heat though, just take whatever suits your personal situation, th…
/r/MenSupportMen17/10/22 02:51 PM
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Say it, i care about this. Why in particular do you think this though, because girls get more empathy? easier time getting laid? feminist double standars?
/r/MenSupportMen17/10/22 02:15 PM
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Of course, im bi and i dont think MRA are homophobics, although difference is found between gay/bi men and the actual lgbt movement wich stems from intersectionality wich is fundamentally antimale, so thats where i think some conflict can come up. One thing is to support non traditional gay/bi expressions, and another thing is to demonize traditional masculinity and heterosexuality, wich intersectioanlity loves to do.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 01:32 PM
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Yes, at first glance this seems superficial and no important, but lately ive been thinking about how coul men close the empathy gap, and i think this might require appropiating femenine expression to some extent, adapted towards men by men themselves. So not just crossdressing although thats fine as well, but a masculine adapted version of this femenine expressions, clothing make up jewelery everything. So think about why bother to have a womens dress reform movement, was it just for fanshion en…
/r/MensRights17/10/22 01:21 PM
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All i can think of is that if the gender were reversed nobody would care.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 01:10 PM
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Not at all, being exempt from war is a privilege. These structure not only benefit powerfull men, they benefit every single women on the winning side that gets the benefit from the war without putting their neck at play.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 01:06 PM
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Interesting, as expected it has the same flaw that marxism has, because in order to be able to do what they want we would need to calculate all the infinite different ways to identify someone under infinite variables to reach a conclusion of where they fall in the oppresion hirearchy. Their trick is that they control wich identities (collectives) get considered and wich are ignored, and under what variables, for example over empahizing money as the most important factor in a persons (collective)…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 08:29 PM
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Well played brother
/r/MenSupportMen16/10/22 04:54 PM
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Even studies show how unbalanced this is i used to have them at hands but cant find them anymore.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:25 PM
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It makes sense if gender is supposedly equal now then theres less of a reason to exclusevily pursue the opposite gender since we are supposedly not getting any ''complementarity'' from them other than raw genitals now, every person is now an equal selfsustaining unit instead of a puzzle piece looking for its macthing other half.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:22 PM
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The root of mens gender issues is male disposability, the empathy gap, ''woman and children first''. If he fails at something, if he feels scared at something, if he feels pain or gets hurt and so on, dont look down on him, dont look disapointed at him, dont lose respect for him because of it, woman do this very often with their eyes not words, you might not say it but your eyes and face says it all.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 10:47 AM
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Ok thank you, i hope you find more people to help you as well, not me of course.
/r/AntiFeminists16/10/22 12:05 AM
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I think this to be effective would require a precise clarification/highlight of what words exactly composed the violation. Ive been moderated like this from other subs with obtuse lazy nonexplanations about the whys, wich is so frustrating that i would just leave that sub immediatly, because this lack of clarification made me feel like i could be banned again for anything i say because i dont know exactly what i did wrong, wich takes away all the motivation to even bother typing anything again i…
/r/AntiFeminists15/10/22 11:37 PM
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That was a very good response good job. I like your thinking except for your apocaliptical conclusion. We can totally beat them specially with smart reasoning like yours, it just takes a lot of work to get there, but every small progress we get is very valuable to build even mroe progress on top of it, everyone contributing with what they can.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 08:57 PM
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The brainwash is immense, the propaganda and censorship campaing is immense, i truly dont blame them i see them as brainwashed victims, the reality is that they will learn the hard way by crashing with objective reality, thats enough punishment, and the more intense the red pill shock is on them, the stronger they will bounce back and join us.
/r/MensRights14/10/22 08:07 PM
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I hope every siongle women that behaves this way gets this result.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/10/22 08:04 PM
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I wonder how many of them realize that if they can generalize men in such a way then they are legitimizing generalizing women across the board. Like the california ban on charging more for womens products is in direct contradiction with this.
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:59 PM
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And it of course doesnt go the other way around.
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:56 PM
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OMG learn how to read
/r/MensRights13/10/22 04:49 PM
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The first refers to the little to not effort put by feminism to include women in the draft, they often claim they are for it yet they spend more resources fighting manspreading so its clearly a bottom priority if not an excuse, its been 100 years already, where are the academic theories about toxic draftology and the marches to add women to the draft and so on? It is not equal if women get to vote how men go die at wars while they are not drafted, thats objectively a privilege/gender role. The s…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 03:04 PM
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First wave feminism thinks women should be able to vote (doesnt care about women draft though). Second wave feminism thinks women should be able to work (doesnt care about divorce rape though). Third wave feminism thinks the entirety of society is designed to benefit men over women and therfore pushes policies to take from men by force to give to women (doesnt only blame all men issues on men but also blocks them from being adressed) (currently the domionant force within feminism). Forth wave fe…
/r/MensRights13/10/22 01:19 PM
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I think it is as long it is properly channeled to the proper target, wich in my view is feminism in this case, not women as a gender, same with the blue hair feminist she should channel her angry towards the social norms she despises but not men as a gender.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 01:07 PM
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Interesting so what is this ''door'' that you are talking about?
/r/MensRights13/10/22 01:03 PM
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You keep makeing this personal not wasting my time farewell.
/r/AntiFeminists13/10/22 12:37 PM
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It technicaly works because if you actually try to use all those rules you will literally never have sex in your entire life. And the best part is that you can still be charged even if you are a virgin.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 10:58 AM
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That sounds amazing you should definetly go for that, maybe sell some of your belongings to get the ticket faster? Youll likely recover the stuff very quickly once in denmark.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 12:14 AM
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Get the fuck away from that family as soon as you can (get a job in another state or something) and ideally get as much video/audio evidence as possible while you are still there. What about your father or other family or friend can anybody help you?
/r/MensRights12/10/22 11:49 PM
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Feminism is not a beter plan for anyone, feminism is destuctive not constructive, anything that feminism ''does'' is directly leeched away from men and society, feminism is a parasite of society, feminism takes away, destroys and rots everything it touches. Feminism shows to be uncapable/not willing to see/acknowlodge men issues, wich is why i dedicate myself to take it down, women issues are just one face of the gender issues coin. We can keep discusing if you want, but only if you refrain to r…
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 11:37 PM
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Crush them like the scum they are
/r/MensRights12/10/22 10:37 PM
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True utopia is unreacheable by definition, so what do you think we should do then?
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 08:19 PM
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Feminism gaslights an buries mens issues deep into the ground, feminism feeds of mens rights blood. They do it through the patriarchy narrative that they spread across the isntitutions of our society. Here is an example of a feminsit in power blockign mens rights and google one of the most pwoerfull corporations dismissal of men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWUsn4yyJI&ab\_channel=DailyMail https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+international+man+day+2021&atb=v263-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images…
/r/MensRights12/10/22 07:18 PM
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This is how the feminist sausage is made, theres two ways you can empwoer women, one you give them unilateral unfair one sided advantages, and two you cripple mens progress as much as you can. bingo
/r/MensRights12/10/22 06:17 PM
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How about the future is human and we cut all this gender crap
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 04:12 PM
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I think harrasment in general in both cases is the reason, when it comes to false allegations the reality is that danger is everywhere, for example forcing women into my office or gym also exposes me to false allegations, the only solution is to make it legally unviable to false allegate.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 04:09 PM
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I dont think that counts as going your own way, however is not a cult with memership, just look into the mgtow philosophy/lifestyle and take whatever is useful for you from it and discard what doesnt suit your situation. And help spread the word as well :)
/r/MensRights12/10/22 03:58 PM
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Oh nice yeah that definitly sounds very good ill take the advice for my own food preping :) Im so used to see or hear about SAH using their husbands money to just order food and hire maids and so on while complaining at the same time, that i get extra suspicious and picky if that makes sense haha, like is hard to believe to me that the husband is actually getting a fair deal there has to be a catch somewhere in my mind.
/r/AntiFeminists12/10/22 01:34 AM
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Did you watch the video that meal was pure love not a 5 minute microowave meal and he mentioned she made that 3 times a day, so hard disagree there. It matters because by day 5 the meal tastes like microwaved fridge sweat haha and its probably the same fing thing every day that week. Thats true delivery means he doesnt clean so you are right there although you didnt clarify if he was allowed to clean once a week also. Ive been picky for fun overall i like what you say.
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/22 11:34 PM
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Makes perfect sense i like it. Although i dont think batch cooking and delivery counts as ''already doing it mostly'' not even close when comparing to the video at least, does he clean up everything on sundays and sometimes calls for cleaning service too?
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/22 11:16 PM
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I think the sooner you leave the better, it seems is only going to get worse as time goes on.
/r/MenSupportMen11/10/22 09:32 PM
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Interesting makes sense, i wonder if your husband would had made 75k+ would you have prefered to be SAH for him making the same quality breakfast as in the video? What one wants and whats realistic is a different thing right.
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/22 09:12 PM
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That food looks pretty good i might even consider submitting to divorce rape for that.
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/22 06:48 PM
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Short answer is they should in a progressive society and shouldnt in a conservative society.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 06:42 PM
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I think thats regressive medival barbaric thinking specially dangeorus when false accusations are so enabled. So only jail time and damage payments if possible for both.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 06:36 PM
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Feminism is antimale and therefore is wrong no matter where you are in the planet. Gender equality and freedom yes, but feminism is none of that.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 04:33 PM
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Reddit itself is against men rights, its ToS specificaly allows for harrasment towards males. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ozdeoi/if\_you\_are\_white\_or\_male\_you\_arnt\_protected\_under/
/r/MensRights11/10/22 04:31 PM
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Say ''im not a feminist''
/r/AntiFeminists11/10/22 04:21 PM
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Hey dude i was railed up yesterday because i spent all day arguing with feminists (ill give reddit a rest for a while lmao), i shouldnt had been so negative because even though this is not ''theoreticaly perfect'' is obviusly the way to go in a practical real sense, we should ''get there'' one step at a time. So sorry thank you for caring about paper abortions.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 09:30 AM
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Both it is worth it and is overrated, is fun excting and delicious yet is not something noeeone shouldnt take too seriously or based their self stem or life around it if that makes sense. The fun part is that you have an entirelifetime of sexuality expression to re-live now, imagine people in general have already seen the movies but you have this new exciting repertoir of movies ready for you to explore if that makes sense. Also you could also be more valuable to a virgin woman, pure an innocnen…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 11:03 PM
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You dont seem to be following what im saying so this is my last response. I do not believe at all that men behaved badly as a collective in the past towards women, and i believe gender roles were created by both men and women for the benefits of both men and women. In my world men and women loved eachother and cooperated in the past, in your world men in the past where inferior abusive trash, thast the difference, you dehumanize men in the past, i dont dehumanize anyone. Farewell lets hope to re…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 10:43 PM
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Nothing was or is or will ever be pure that goes both ways. I think that your idea of men behaviour in the past dimishes men, i think it is necessary to think men are inferior to women in order to buy into that narrative, like as men are this evil one dimensional brute moneky that just awants to dominate women. I think my narrative otherwise thinks of men as human beings equal to women in soul, morality and kindness. I only blame feminism, not women, and i hate that i even have to clarify that o…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 10:13 PM
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If paper abortions are free then regualr abortions are free.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 09:11 PM
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Sure but thats only valid if we remove all the feminist state expenses first. Call me ill wait.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 09:09 PM
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No, the equivalent consequence for a man is that he cannot chose if his child is going to be aborted or not, my body my choice, thats where that equivalence is. Also you mentioned we should be responsable as adults, but in a society where feminism is granting all sort of unilateral advantages to women like meritless female quotas like they are special little kids, i think you or anyone have no legitemacy to say to a man ''you should be a responsible adult''. When women stop getting free rides an…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 09:05 PM
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If needed the financial support should come from state wealthfare, a man should not have to pay to be free. The same can be said about having a minor consequence imposed on regular abortions as to still ensure that people practice safe sex and no cheating with prevention. So whatever consequence you wish to have, there should be the same or equivalent on the regular abortion. I cant thing of anything extra to do to ensure the wellbeing of the child that isnt already done.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 08:50 PM
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It doesnt, otherwise you could say talking at all about anything makes you entitled. However thats an excelent red flag to never talk to her again thats for sure holy fuck the histeria is limitless.
/r/AntiFeminists06/10/22 07:17 PM
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Well i surely hope im wrong since that would be the better scenario. Science has the biological argument of life continuity from conception until death, thereby abortion is a discontinuation of it and therefore murder. Science has no functional understanding of what conciousness is or how it works beyond its correlations with brain functions. With that said im not taking a stance on abortion, just presenting the other side as i understand it. I cannot disagree with you more than here, the incel …
/r/MensRights06/10/22 05:42 PM
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Of course there is ways to deal with it, the article tries to link unwanted celibacy with violent incelhood thats why my remark is relevant if that makes sense. Literally everyone is shaming them, men, women, feminist, patriarchal conservative, family, friends, coworkers, cartoons, movies, videosgames, literally everywhere you go bein a virgin means you are worth shit and you shoudl hang yourself and are a burden to society. Disagree, abortion is a baby vs fetus debate, not a women vs men debate…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 05:09 PM
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I do understand that, i dont remember if i explained this already in this thread. This is how gender roles work(ed): Women get less freedom in exchange of Men getting less safety and security. Conservatives/traditionals are happy with this exchange because they believe is the most optimal natural to divide labor between the genders. Women in general were treated as possessions and as such were protected and valued, her safety, security, comfort and wellbeing mattered more than him, but she didnt…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 04:52 PM
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The problem is not the lack of sex but rather the humuliation man receive for being virgins or a sexual failure + the entire society complaining about women only having issues wile gaslightning and demonizing them. So is at least cuadruple problem: * They are sexually repressed and unsatisfied wich on its own is depressing enough. * They are humiliated as a failure as men for it wich isolates them and traumatizes them. * They are gaslighted by a feminist society bombarding them with women wellbe…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 04:36 PM
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I understand what you meant but it comes across as also meaning all men are predators.
/r/AntiFeminists06/10/22 12:20 PM
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Gaslight and lack of empathy we feel like we dont matter unless we are the most powerfull man in the room.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 11:37 AM
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I cant thing of anything that it gets right because in order to be right it should be fair yet it only gives things to women over men. Getting gender freedom for eveyrone is getting it right, getting gender freedom exclusively for women while keeping and gaslighting mens is not getting anything right but rather widening the gap.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 11:36 AM
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Is not the same because they were still using those black men to fight, the equivalency would be valid if the black people werent allowed to fight either like women.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 10:40 PM
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Argentina :)
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:59 PM
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Well i appreciate that thank you :) The male hatred is so deep that, beleive it or not hold on to your chair, they banned Dragon Ball Z from public TV, just how unnecesarily cruel and dumb that is. Like even at that level boys cant get a rest from feminism. This cartoon is so classical and important specially for boys as it teaches to fight for good and never give up and all good shit like that im so happy i grew up in a time where feminism wasnt strong. (of course they can just watch in on thei…
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:44 PM
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For example in my country feminism is very radical and powerfull so here is mandatory for men to do a ''gender violence'' course to be allowed to get a driver license. Also we have the concept of ''femicide'' legally active that values the murder of a woman higher than the murder of a man (higher sentence), both clear dehumanizations of male endorced by feminism as a whole at least in my country.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:34 PM
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Makes sense since both are beautiful hormonal processes.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:27 PM
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Is not a few is a majority you are the rare one that doesnt define the movement. It can be used to define the group when the group as a whole still endorses the actions of those few. Here is a feminist in power blocking men rights and there was zero backlash from feminism as a whole towards her actions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWUsn4yyJI&ab\_channel=DailyMail
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:22 PM
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Ok then to answer your post question i call myself an antifeminist because to my way of seeing the world feminism is what feminism does, not what a definition written by feminist says they are, politics is not a software algorithm run by self definitions on a paper, is power handling power in messy and corrupt ways, all that matters to me is their actions not their words.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 09:00 PM
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War is one if not the most serious of matters, do you think for a second that if including women to the army at that point with their capacity wouldve increased the chances of succeeding and not losing lives and valuable soldiers and weapons, they wouldve refuse because of sexism? I can see sexism in more trivial mundane matters but not in something like war where performance maximization means life or death or torture or famine.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 08:57 PM
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Ok then ill inform you that you are being used and lied to and you should instead call yourself a Humanist, an Egalitarian, Gender equalist, pick your name, but not feminism. Please become aware of the actions of feminism and you will leave the label by yourself. I also believe in what i call gender freedom and i will support anythign that shows a 50/50 in practice, feminism has only showed so far in many decades that it is 0/100.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 08:45 PM
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For the love of god crazy people. Lets just pretend you are right then i tell you in exchange that things are not inherently emotional so stop emotionalizing me and my life, thats a trade i would take to be honest.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 08:41 PM
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Sure but in rpactice feminism does nothing whatsoever to help men while crying about women 24/7, theres nothing equal about what feminism does in ''practice'', says they want equality to get their way, then turn around and spend every single ounce of resources exclusevily to help women while at the same time blocking gaslighgtintg and shuting down every attempt for men righst to be adressed, you can varely mention men rights in some palces without feminist imediatly labelign you as a incel misog…
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 08:28 PM
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Feminist mambo jumbo nonsense, but hey you now understand what i think about that, i never mentioned anything about control thats all in feminst heads, so lets agree to disagree there. Since we are at it let me ask you what do you think about men being humiliated for being virgins or very low asexual activity? What is feminism doing about it? How is it fair that me as a man require the permision of a woman to have sex with her in order for my opinion to matter and to deserve the respect of other…
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 08:23 PM
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Listen to yourself ''breasts are not inherently sexual'' jesus christ. I figure you were not religious thats why im making the comparison to try to wake you up from the feminist brainwash. The whole human body is sexual, sex is good and beutiful and natural and a huge part of our lives accept it embrace it.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 08:18 PM
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Things are sexual on their own, they dont get ''sexualized'', thats feminist mambo jumbo. There is nothing wrong with female sexuality or male sexuality. You sound like a catholic ortodox complaing about things beign sexual.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 08:12 PM
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I dont think theres any simmetry because the past was a very different world than it is today. Feminism is an artificial political ideology that specificaly and purposely targets men, while the past gender roled society was spontaneously formed around the needs of the past where war, famine, murder and rape where common place and the technological level was lower that we can begin to comprehend in 2022. I completly reject the feminist narrative entirely, to me anything that feminism says is gasl…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 06:04 PM
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Where did feminism go wrong? Precisely at the moment where women needed to be hold accountable, where women needed to be punished, where women need edto lose their privileges to achieve the supposed equality. Feminism failed and mutated into a not jsut man hating but actualyl man hurting and destroying because its incapable of takign away anything from women. Right form the very start, are you gonna tell me feminism is capable of revolutionazing society to get the female vote, yet they are uncap…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 05:42 PM
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For example wikipedia links antifeminist with far right extremism (talking about ''white replacement'' wich makes no sense whatsoever), but makes no mention of how feminism encourages far left extremism, (for example in my country a few months ago a couple of 2 lesbian feminists killed one of their own 5 year old son from previous marraige she had, tortured and beaten until he died ust for being a boy as pure hatred, the father tred many times all he could to get custody but the woman was assumm…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:41 PM
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Politicaly speaking feminism is what feminism does, not what wikipedia says it is. Politics is not a software algorithm running on wikipedia definitions, is people handling power in messy corrupt ways, what matters is what they do not what they say they want. However i like the concept of destructive X to be able to breakthrough the conversation.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:20 PM
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what a gigachad GOD the guy in the second picture
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/22 10:03 AM
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I appreciate your kindess, although remember that these witch hunts also happen when the man has done nothing wrong and without any kind of proof or evidence whatsoever. Empathy for someone guilty is a very high and admirable virtue, but empathy for the innocent should be the norm at a fundamental level, this basic level of dehumanization is what needs the more attention i think. Feminism is not just fighting violence with violence as you said, feminism is sacrificing innocent good men that have…
/r/MensRights05/10/22 02:46 AM
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Interesting thank you
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 08:48 PM
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Hard disagree, they are indeed comparable, and i think thinking otherwise is essentially agreeing with the feminist cancer narrative that women were opressed in the past by the evil patriarchy and males had it so much better. I will oppose anything that doesnt see gender struggles theough a 50/50 lence, the past was bad for both gender in different ways but comparable ways, same for the middle east.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 05:51 PM
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You said they arent comparable to womens issues
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 04:58 PM
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That mentality is the exact same mentality that cause feminism to be the way it is in the west, only seeing the world through a womens eyes. In a gender roled culture, women get less freedom in ecchange of comfort and security, while the man gets more freedom in exchange of being more disposable and less secure and doing the most back breaking dangerous disgusting jobs for the community. Because you only see the world thorugh a womens eyes, then you only concern about freedom, wich is the womens…
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 04:56 PM
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Men are not fucking ''catcalled'' in the middle east they are disposable economical assets for the country and have to follow strict gender roles or be disposed. What i would like this to be seen portraid as is ''Iran citizens fighting for gender freedom and equality''. That is the good stuff, never ever ever again this toxic cancer of ''whamen this wamen that whamen whamen whamen'' never again.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 04:46 PM
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You keep doing your misandrist trash ill keep fighting against the feminist cancer
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 04:41 PM
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I will compare them until feminism doesnt exist anymore anywhere in the planet.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 04:37 PM
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If you are going to insult me at least inform me of what facts are you talking about dont waste my time.
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 03:57 PM
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Equality for men requires taking privileges away from women, but feminism will never ever allow for that to happen, therefore equality for men can only happen from outside of feminism.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 03:38 PM
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I used to consider myself feminist when i was politcaly unaware, becoming aware of the actual policies and real life effects feminism has and pushes was a shocking experience.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 02:36 PM
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Lately? Thats the eternal gaslight 101 :) I literally laugh when i hear that at this point
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 12:45 PM
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Problem is that if we dont keep feminism away from us they will eat us up like a fungy. If feminism enters the mens rights movement, before you know it will become an impotent sterile basal mvoement for feminism that is virtually dead in practice and only cares about women.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 12:39 PM
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I dont like the over emphasis on women because thats what lead to the feminism we have in the West. I see whats happening in Iran portraid as ''women fighting and being strong'' and ''only women are oppressed in the middle east''. While in reality the hard fight for those women rights are being mostly done by men, men are the ones for the most part getting beaten up and put into jail for those women, so MEN are the ones that deserve the credit for it. I can already see after women rights win ove…
/r/AntiFeminists04/10/22 12:26 PM
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Insults = blocked
/r/MensRights03/10/22 11:39 PM
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Well imagine it as a bussiness, if you have a median capital to make money then you get median profit and you are at least sustainable if not growing, but as your life roll capital decreases each individual dollar becomes harder to get, the ''effort'' required grows exponentially as you decrease towards the bottom (bussiness dont grow linearly, they grow exponentially either way up or down, or they float). At a certain point the effort required per ''dollar'' is so heavy that the bussiness as a …
/r/MensRights03/10/22 11:35 PM
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Ok now that you understand that then add this other concept to it. I think your approach also assumes this people are at the median of ''life roll of life luck'' if you will. By definition these ''incels'' (i despise the word) are at the bottom of the barrel, they are the bottom % of men, the men with the worst luck, less skilled, less inteligent, with less money, weaker physicaly, weaker psychologicaly. These are not a random sample of the overall male pool. So what can seem trivial form the ''…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 11:18 PM
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It would not only be financial, the father would be renouncing to all rights to those kids to be akin to abortion. No custody no rights at all for the kid, and i guess it should be made easier for the woman to grant another man the adoption of the child somehow.
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 11:09 PM
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I think you are very very wrong thinking that is trivial. Ill give you a metaphor, do you know how this happens where you need experience to get a job but you cant get the experiecne because you cant get the job because you can get the experience kind of thing? This loophole. Some people are trapped in this loop where they start with the wrong foot and they become creepy, and being crepy negates to them the opportunity to practice and learn the social skills because people reject them on sight b…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 11:05 PM
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Diet, exercise, hyginie of course thats trivial. But how are your social skills under your control exatly, care to elaborate? I think you are understating that one by a big long shot.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 11:01 PM
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YES !! CHEERS FOR JUSTICE !! Victims also deserve damages payment by her or the state.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 02:45 PM
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It should be part of the employee contract, not forced upon the company, including paternal leave. So the ecompany that wants to offer that service can and the company that doesnt doesnt need too.
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 02:26 PM
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Demhumanization of males
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 02:11 PM
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Divorce leave immediatly and denounce her to the police she will never stop.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 02:09 PM
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Thank you for your support women like you are what we need the most by far you make the difference :) As constructive criticism i would say that i wish the problem was only women with mental ilness, but i see our enemy as a more powerfull structured political force with massive resources that also includes males as its members. So of course those mentally ill others are an important part of the problem that needs to be adressed, but id like to emphasize that we are dealing with a more serious be…
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 08:12 AM
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Feminist think only women are judged by their sexual lives (slut bodycounts). Remind them what happens when a man has a low or none body count they get humiliated as virgin losers and society doesnt give a single fuck about it. They are both clear cruel sexual shaming, yet they only see one side. This is a very clear vivid example to make them picture how blind they are to their own double standars.
/r/AntiFeminists03/10/22 08:05 AM
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What you personally do and what society pushes onto you are separated, i think you are mistakenly mixing those together in this last reply, as you said, you technicaly can do whatever you want, is just the ''push'' that you are refering to in the post. I think the reason why society pushes men into success is because pushing someone into success involves being tough with them, involves making them suffer, telling them they are a failure when they fail, and so on, without excuses, without ''dont …
/r/MensRights01/10/22 04:42 PM
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Yes things are getting thighter i hope other tech companies and platforms start to develop, i believe some are but havent looked into it yet, this sub is the last stance for me in reddit. Im mgtow too i agree the community is very positive, theres a fair amounr of mgtow content in youtube still to take our daily red pills :) I just make very clear to myself and others that the enemy is a political force, an ideology, not a gender, is feminism. Imagine the reverse universe where rampant masculini…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 04:27 PM
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This sub is constantly under attack, think of reddit as feminist turf, so anything that looks like ''woman bad'' might be taken down, is a slippery slop to the sub dying but thats likely best it can be done in in a feminist cespool like reddit is. Sad to see it happen though.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 04:08 PM
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The problem is not women but society enabling their behaviour and not protecting you as it would protect a woman. Feminism is the enemy not women. Yet because feminism is the dominant paradigm, it makes complete sense to stay away from women for self protection, yet dont forget who is the real enemy.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 03:51 PM
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For men is the inverse situation as in the grass is greener on the other side kind of thing. You as a woman feel ''pushed'' into this ''comfort corner'' just stay over there all pretty and let society take care of you. We men get the oppositee treatment, if we dont succeed, if we are not wealthy, if we are enot alpha, if we are not strong, if we are not a leading example, then we are completly trash virgin losers than should hang ourselves and are only a burden to society, we get looked down upo…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 03:44 PM
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Im only against the compulsion of doing it, im against threatening people with losing their job, money penality or going to jail if they dont use such pronouns. Im against punishing people who dont use them. Once you remove punishment im 100% ok with it, if you add a punishment to it im 100% against it.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 04:45 AM
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Yes it is hurting men full stop sorry its a hard disagree here.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 05:06 PM
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No, what i want is another movement to take hold of women rights, one that is not feminism, one that is not rooted in the patriarchy narrative, one that actually empathizes and listens to the male experience, one that never under any circunstance puts a female issue over a male issue, real equality, 50/50 across the board without excuses.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 05:00 PM
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Yes i do believe that. Im responding to the post, if they do all what that post then they should also stop using male taxes. For example, saying go to female doctors exclusevily means dont go to male doctors, boicot docotrs, hurt men. So im saying if you are going to do that then at least dont use men taxes. I would prefer none of this to happen but im not the one starting the conflict, the female advancent person from the post is.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 04:57 PM
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I disagree
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 04:54 PM
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What i can say is that both men and women should be treated as a person first.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 04:51 PM
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You cant tell me what i think thats not how arguing works logic 101. May i know who are you so i can at least know where the ad hominem insulting comes from? Are you a feminist or what?
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 04:46 PM
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Love is a two way street
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 04:30 PM
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Jordan Peterson is amazing i was there at his first livestream after he refused to use compelled speech pronouns at his university, good times :)
/r/MensRights30/09/22 01:21 PM
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I think it is a blunder to have coined that term ''involuntary celibate'' because i think it implies that is mandatory for sex to happen, wich has negative conotations for both genders, for women ''pushing them'' to put out and for men labeling them as ''losers'' or not deserving of respect if they dont get laid. So i think anybody using the term on either side of the discussion is wrong in doing so. Men shouldnt be judge/labeled based on how much sex they have period (specially under a feminist…
/r/MensRights30/09/22 12:40 PM
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Yes because regardless of the speaker intentions feminism as a whole political force is causing real damage to men and society. However you shouldnt be mean to that speaker either, but being annoyed by it makes sense to me.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 12:03 PM
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Realize that logic has nothing to do with it, is all emotions, whatever makes their emotions feel good in that moment, thats what they want.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 11:57 AM
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Because theres 2 ways with wich you can make women superior: a) Give them unfair advantages b) Cripple men as much as you can
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 11:07 AM
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Wanna be an empowered separatist? Stop using male taxes to help women fullstop.
/r/AntiFeminists30/09/22 10:08 AM
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''If you can kill it, i can at least abandon it. My money, my choice'' - Dave Chapelle
/r/MensRights29/09/22 09:43 PM
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Because is hurting both men and women and men-women relations and is only getting worse, is pseudocience applied as if it was real science, is making a mess in society causing real suffering.
/r/AntiFeminists29/09/22 08:29 PM
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Run :)
/r/AntiFeminists29/09/22 08:26 PM
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Yes please where do i sign haha :) (not refering to antifeminist women you are the cool ones)
/r/AntiFeminists29/09/22 08:25 PM
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I think the reason why there is gender roles is not to be found in the gender itself but rathere in the interaction between the genders. For example why do you think men have this expectation to be strong and agressive? Was is just random happenstance that that idea became to be? I think its rooted in the phenomena that when a situation happens where people have to chose whether a woman or a man gets hurt, people instintively chose the man to get hurt. For example think personally, theres a buil…
/r/AntiFeminists29/09/22 05:54 PM
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I think the key term here is ''consensus''. Peace is consensus. Culture is consensus. Democracy is consensus. Freedom of speech is consensus. Once you remove freedom of speech from people, they lose the capability to participate in democracy, in culture and in peace, and is a downspirel to perpetual divition and scalation of violence. So imo the root of all our problems is the supression of the expression of ideas, the hubris of some people to think they know it all and have the omnipotence to s…
/r/MensRights29/09/22 05:47 PM
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The term itself is a gaslight to blame everything on men, so we reject the terminology is unacceptable to call it like that. Once you understand that, then the ''supposed'' meaning refers to all those social standars pushed onto men that result toxic for society. Our critique of course is that first those standars are not rooted in masculinity itself but rather come from society as a whole including females and femininity.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 02:21 PM
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This is a ''negative framing'' type of argument. Male being the default gender neutral can also be framed as male is the ''common'' the ''not special'' the ''disposable'' the ''irrelevant''. You can simple flip aroudn the argument to make it ''the feemale gender is the default special gender''. Male is the standar because traditionaly females have extra rules as to how to behave towards them, if you refer as someone as a ''she'', that means you need to be less agressive around her to not intimid…
/r/MensRights29/09/22 12:41 PM
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There is no such thing as toxic masculinity
/r/AntiFeminists28/09/22 11:19 PM
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Please do what McFeely said and let us know in the future i wish you the best
/r/MensRights28/09/22 11:09 PM
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Basicly it vividly shows how society has a much easier time disposing individual men, oztricizing them, turning their back on them. I think this is an emergent behaviour, not explicit, almost like unconcious, thats rooted in men being the gender carrying the physical burdens of society (violence, heavy work and so on). Its clearly quantitaitvely shown in homelessness, in suicide, in wars, in how enabled false accusations are and so on, but i think is an emergent phenomena that happens across the…
/r/MensRights28/09/22 03:09 PM
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I believe the core root of all of this is societys utter incapability to criticize women in any way shape or form. This leads women into taking for granted every privilege aspect of being a woman and into believe everything that is wrong or feels bad in ther lives must be blamed on outside forces (aka men). They become unable to see anything wrong with them so the ''wrong'' must therefore be on men, wich then leads into the mentaility that they must take what men have to solve their problems and…
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:56 PM
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Theres no excuse to be spending a single dollar in misandrist crap like that when 80% of homeless people are male.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:44 PM
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This subs refuses to do that?
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:42 PM
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This is all you need to see to understand why: https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/qoet4d/boy_jumped_by_mobs_for_defending_himself_against/ That would never in a million years happen to a woman
/r/MensRights27/09/22 11:37 PM
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You can still support women while being antifeminist (although is not required based on your personal experience), but part of the problem is that currently feminism holds monopoly on women/gender politics, so a path to victory imo would include re-directing women politics into an proper gender political movement something like egalitarianism or humanism that doesnt inherently discriminate men. To face these issues i live as mgtow and advocate antifeminism, although i never get political with fr…
/r/MensRights27/09/22 02:31 PM
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Awesome made my day !! :)
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:58 PM
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That way of wording is absolutly off the table is unacceptable. Is the equivalent of calling any female gender role or unfair expectation ''toxic femininity''. Is a manipulative sociopathic gaslightning way to blame everything that society as a whole does wrongly solely on men (because feminism is inherently uncapable of every blaming anything whatsoever on women ever). Let me ask you, do you think females and femininity have anything to do whatsoever with this ''toxic masculinity existing''? He…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:39 PM
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Imo the only issue with this topic is when someone is forced to use them against their will, you do what you whatever you prefer.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/09/22 01:15 PM
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Feminism gaslights men pushing the narrative that men have no gender roles across all the institutions of our society. That has the effect of paralizing and crippling mens social progress. Imo the root male gender role is male disposability aka ''women and children first''. The reason feminism cannot admit men have issues is because solving these male issues involves taking privileges away form women and they will never ever EVER allow that to happen.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:05 PM
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It is not labor if they dont have a ''boss'' or a ''schedule'' or a real resposability. If it was mandatory for them to make sure in all their capabilities that their male partner is 100% completle fullfilled emotionally OTHERWISE they will be punished, then and only then that would be ''emotional labor''. Reality is that theres nothing remotly close to that happening and the woman emotions are pretty much always prioritized. Feminism/women ha ve atendency to blame their own lack of emotional co…
/r/MensRights26/09/22 01:01 PM
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The difference is the feminism itself, the lady is allowed to lash out and hate men freely without consequence, while the guys is treted like a dangerous potential terrorist that needs to be ostraciced from society. The problem here is the unilateral social norms.
/r/AntiFeminists24/09/22 06:26 PM
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What i think is that if that ends up being a problem that is 100% a consequence and fault of feminism, not of men. This is a reflection of what feminism causes to society, not a reflection of men. Im not tolerating the perpetual blaming of literally every problem on men we had too much of that already.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 06:07 PM
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So ''men'' have to do stuff for being ''men' now? That is a gender role. The moment feminism was allowed to remove female gender roles, all those male gender roles became obsolete. That boat sailed long ago. Under a feminist paradigm i literally dont have to do anythign whatsoever for a woman because im a man fullstop. First remove feminism, then we can talk. Remember strong independent need no man.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 05:45 PM
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So is wrong when a woman is forced to do it but not when men are forced? You can give wealthfare help to children, make ALL society pay for it, not exclusevily males, let that money equaliy come out from those strong independent female pockets as well.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 04:31 PM
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''My money, my choice'' - Dave Chappelle Women have the right to make the desicion on their own while men do not have that right.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 03:42 PM
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Idk what the best solution is, but this concern is definetly not paranoia, it makes perfect sense to me.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 12:18 PM
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What about false femininity?
/r/MensRights24/09/22 09:13 AM
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The question is, what is ''real feminism'' doing about those extremists? Absolutly nothing whatsoever in the slightest, therefore they own their behaviour. Heres a classical example of a ''real feminist'' holding real power in society actively blocking men issues being adressed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWUsn4yyJI&ab\_channel=DailyMail Heres google one of the most powerfull corporations: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+international+man+day+2021&atb=v263-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=image…
/r/AntiFeminists24/09/22 09:09 AM
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They will always salnder us no matter what is impossible to satisfy them
/r/MensRights24/09/22 09:03 AM
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Feminism is the enemy, im happy when feminism fails not women. In the current context, me being a ''masculine man'' is me submitting to be used and exploited by society, sorry not happening, we have being doing that for many decades and things just got worse and worse and keep getting worse, that simple doesnt work. I profusely refuse to provide for a family when feminism is ''quotaing'' women into the high earning positions i deserved by merit. The only way forward imo is to take feminism down …
/r/MensRights23/09/22 04:13 PM
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I would bet men are also the ones that commit the most of what i call ''anti crimes'' wich is putting themselves in harms way to save others. Thing is is harder to study what ''doesnt happen'' vs what ''happens''. Also the framing itself is misandrist, is not ''men commit the majority of crime'', the proper non sexist way to say it is ''criminals are majority male'' if that makes sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 02:23 PM
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Ok work on what more specificaly what do you think?
/r/MensRights22/09/22 10:42 PM
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Are you antifeminist?
/r/MensRights22/09/22 10:36 PM
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Sounds amazing !!! Although is still fucked up that we have to pay an insurance just because women feel bad about having mandatory paternity tests, still much bettere than having none.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 07:10 PM
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Well she needs to be reminded than traditioanl wives are suppossed to be supportive to their husband, she is suppossed to be your support group, she is failing as a traditional wife by behaving like a feminist bitch even though she isnt technicaly a feminist.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 12:29 PM
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The objective consensual sexual acts on themselves are fine whatever floats their boats Although it could be argued that their consent is being compromised by being manipulated by that ideology in the same manner a cultist manipulates its worshipers, so it depends on a case to case basis Masculinity is whatever men experience it to be, these men are men, however we shouldnt call this men ''traditional men''. Being a man in that sense also relates to how society treats those men and recognizes/re…
/r/MensRights20/09/22 01:26 PM
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As you said you can be ''part'' of both, the conflict happens when MRA and Feminsit interests collide with eachother, but you could simply step back in that part of the discussion if that makes sense. Feminism claims that we live in a patriarchy designed for men by men, and therefore, women issues are more improtnat and deserve more attention adn resoruces and to be solved with higher priority. MRA rejects that narrative claiming that there is not a single right that men ahve that women dont als…
/r/MensRights20/09/22 03:23 AM
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Wonderfull is so refreshing to read a woman talking like this once in a while. However my question is it, do you also oppose feminism, not just not being a feminist or not support it, but are you against it as well, are you antifeminist?
/r/MensRights19/09/22 03:36 PM
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We are not the ones shuting down discussion, the extremism is caused by feminism and similar subs treating those men like shit.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 06:05 PM
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You can call me dumb and broke all you want, but over my dead body ill be a simp lmao i rather chew on glass
/r/MensRights18/09/22 12:44 AM
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Yes that what i just said means, making women rich is more important than saving men from the streets for society/
/r/MensRights18/09/22 12:16 AM
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80% of homeless people are male and each individual homeless female gets 3 times the resources, but you know what societies priority is? Making more female CEOs.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 12:10 AM
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As a personal rule i dont mix family and friends with politics, those people have a more special and important role in your life.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 01:06 PM
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Yes and you can summarize it as male disposability or the empathy gap.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 01:00 PM
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Absolutly we need woman the most, the power that you as a woman have that men dont is that you are allowed to raise your voice and opinion much more freely due to feminism currently being the dominant force, what a woman says is simply more valuable and has more political weight. So imo the way you can help the most is simply by talking about men issues openly as much as you can, and you dont even need to be edgy about it, simply acknowlodging men issues exist and are valid is enough.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:43 PM
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What would you say is the cause/explanation of the current state of gender equality? Feminism explains it as being the product of patriarchy, how do we explain it by rational observation, or maybe we dont explaint it we just act on it?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:06 PM
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So would you say that inequalities are random happenstance without a deeper explanation?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:04 PM
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Exactly well said, however im also wondering what do you think about the ''why'' this inequal treatment is happening in the first place? What is our explanation for the curret state of things? Feminism explains it as being the product of a patriarchy, how do we explain it, or maybe we shouldnt be assigning it an explanation?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:01 PM
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What is our explanation fo why this gynocentrism exists in the first place in your view? Biology?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 11:54 AM
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Very good point we should push more into the legitemacy of their sources if they even have any.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 11:53 AM
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Of course, but what is our explanation of why these inequalities exist in the first place? Or maybe we shouldnt try to explain it?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 11:51 AM
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Sounds good i agree, although my question refers more to the ''why'' do we think this inequalities exist in the first place, what is our explanation of why things are the way they are, if any? Feminism explains it as been the result of a patriarchy, how do we explain it? or maybe shouldnt try to explain it?
/r/MensRights17/09/22 12:54 AM
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Omg thats is very interesting makes perfect sense thank you :)
/r/MensRights16/09/22 06:34 PM
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Interesting thank you, so our end goal would be to remove all inequal treatment of men right, so in a purely abstract vacuum sense our end goal is the same that feminism supposedly has.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 05:35 PM
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Maybe more like ''ruled by the interests of women'', since ruled by women would be matriarchy right?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 05:20 PM
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Interesting, so that means we are not an ''ideology'' then right, because we dont have a narrative, just data.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 05:17 PM
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Interesting, those issues are very useful to use i completly agree However my question intends to point more towards they ''why'' this issues exist at all in the first place, why is there an inequality in divorce, custody etc, where doed that come from, what is our explanation for its existence? That would be our ''narrative'' if that makes sense.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 05:00 PM
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Interesting, but what is the explanation in our view on why this biases againt men and discriminatory practices exist in the first place? Or is the ''why'' irrelevant?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 04:05 PM
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Literal hatee, go repeat that in front of a mirror and realize who is the patethic one.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 11:01 AM
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Interesting, i think i would try to argue that favouring spending resources on producing female CEOs over helping homeless men is indeed hatred of men, because is not a harmless favouritism (like not feeling attracted) but actually an evaluation between real suffering of being on the streets vs ''im not a millionarie'' whining, to me this is borderline psychopathic to even think these two things are remotly close in importance/urgency. So lets put it this way, we have 2 factuals: A) Homeless peo…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:56 PM
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Gaslight 101
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:38 PM
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Those girls are also having a ''behaviour'' as well in this picture, they are not an unconsecuential vegetable, and their behaviour rewards, incentivizes and motivates men to hate each other, and they are to blame for that.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:33 PM
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Oh i see what you mean, i actually dont care about hate/feelings that people might have/express agaisnt men unless it actually has a real world tangible consequence, to my eyes the bias is the problem the hatred itself is unconsequencial. But then if it is to be argued that the public hate is actually consecuencial, then therefore bias against man is actually hatred against men, what do you think does that follow? So basicaly the opposition would have to show that misoginy as hatred is unconsecu…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:31 PM
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Both are to blame, both is enough, what im not standing is perpetually blaming everything solely on men.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:23 PM
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Ok so keep that thought and now think about this, what are those girls doing about it? Are they calling out the reprehensible behaviour and consoling their boyfriend? Or are they losing respect for their boyfirend, enjoying it, and rewarding it by respecting the bullies more and picking them as mates instead? I argue that behaviour is being encouraged by the girls.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 08:10 PM
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Interesting, maybe im missing something i admit i had to re-red your comment like 5 times. That example doesnt explain why theres a 1 to 4 ratio on men homelesness vs female homelesness, it just refers to homelessness as a whole gaslighting the point right, the point is not that homeless people exist and are being ignored, is that there is a 1 to 4 ratio male to female. ''More male CEOs shows society isn't misandrist'' Not because that would be the apex falacy. The thing is, to my eyes, the doub…
/r/MensRights14/09/22 07:43 PM
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Focus on showing double standar, example why is society investing so much to make female CEOs when 80% of homeless people are male, thats clearly a psychopathic lack of empathy towards males.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 06:28 PM
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I completly agree with some caviats to add. I believe the reason simping whie knighting is happening so much is also because of the heavy brainwashing feminist campaing to shut down all plausable criticism of women, to the point that from a very yougn age men are brainwashed to believe women are these perfect innocent angels that can do no wrong, wich therefore leads them to simp super hard. Also the last sentence ''be the fuckign alpha'' i get what you mean but i think the alpha concept in a wa…
/r/AntiFeminists12/09/22 08:32 PM
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My question to them is, do they push against ''not real feminism'' or not, do they do anything whatsoever against ''bad feminism'', if not they are just part of the problem by defending the feminist label.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 09:54 AM
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I dont believe in patriarchy because we are not a depotist imperial vertical society where holding power is literally all that is consecuencial. I do believe we have more problems wich is completly unrelated and separated from women problems needing to be taken care of or not, is a matter or ordering/priority, not a binary absolute of ''needs to be taken care of or not''. For example im extremly strongly against to do anything whatsoever to make more female CEOS until the homeless/suicidal gap i…
/r/MensRights09/09/22 03:48 PM
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Is not twitter femcels, i showed you an example of a serious powerfull political feminist blocking the adressal of men issues greastly affecting all men in real world terms, and not only that, but even more important, there was no push back from feminism towards her behaviour, wich means feminism as a movement owns her behaviour. Another serious example is the UN openly granting more aid towards females across the world (wich i remendyou reifnorces the core root male gender role wich si male dis…
/r/MensRights08/09/22 03:47 PM
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Blm doesnt push a narrative that lgbt people have no problems or unfair social expectations or roles, or that lgbt people are to blame for all instutitional social disparities and therfore their problems deserve no attention or resources and is ok to hate on lgbt and say #killalllgbt and so on, and that there is lgbt privilege that opresses black people and so on and on and on the list is endless. Blm doesnt actively gaslight, block and hinder lgbt progress. Feminist feeds from the blood of men …
/r/MensRights08/09/22 02:51 PM
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That is not a serious question. The movement that prioritizes making more female CEOs over helping homeless or suicidal men hates me, not a girl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWUsn4yyJI&ab\_channel=DailyMail
/r/MensRights08/09/22 02:22 PM
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To me all feminism sounds like that, trans exclusionary or not they hate me just as much as a man anyway.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:58 PM
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Not just the stigma but the collosal expected apathy to the point men forget acknowledging what happened is even an option (aka no one will listen anyway).
/r/MensRights08/09/22 01:56 PM
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Irrelevant, even if it was a 1 on 1 relation between a homeless man vs a position of power not being held by a woman, i think you would have to be a mysandrist brainwashed sociopath that deems males as disposable dead weight if you think the former is of equivalent (or lesser) urgency to the latter.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 11:40 AM
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All i can give you is my empathy man, it could be any of us going through whare you are going through, whatever happens never forget is not your fault and you do not deserve this.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 10:26 PM
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The extreme gaslight of men issues and misandry, the core root male gender role has always being male disposability, and thats exactly where feminism feeds from. Example, 80% of homeles people are male, but you know what is a more urgent social problem? Making more female CEOs. That to my view is socipathic apathy towards males, aka males are disposable their suffering has no value when comapred with women fullfillment. They repeat this behaviour across the board. Heres a live classical example …
/r/MensRights07/09/22 07:48 PM
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empathy is a 2way street
/r/AntiFeminists07/09/22 06:07 PM
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I installed DuckDuckGo so i wouldnt see the google doodles anymore, it was triggering the hell out of me to see that double standar right on my face everytime i wanted to google anything. (not advertising)
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:30 PM
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Would you elaborate on what feminist arguments/perspectives you support? Imo feminism directly opposes, blocks and gaslights men rights.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:18 PM
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What you say only makes sense in a space where the rules ar fair and not biased towards a side, here on reddit is literally allowed to harras men while is not to harras women, therefore, our critique is not ''simmetrycal'' is not a ''we both do the same'', thats just another way to keep gaslightning our situation imo. You can say we shouldnt mirror behvaiours that we dont like, but i reject you implying in anyway shape or form that there is a ''simemtry'' in magnitude and we are just doing the s…
/r/MensRights06/09/22 05:14 PM
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i have this https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ozdeoi/comment/h8052s9/?context=3
/r/MensRights05/09/22 03:27 PM
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They preferences are not sexist, whats sexsit are the double standars, because to me is pretty clear that if it was the otehr way around and men where the hypergamous you better believe feminism would be labeling that as patriarchal sexism if that makes sense, but because is a woman practice, then the opposite happens, its hard to even talk about it without being shut down.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 08:36 PM
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He is amazing, all the bad you heard about him is slander. He is against compelled speech wich happened to conflict with gender pronouns compelled speech laws in 2017 i believe. He believes compelled speech is the door that leads to tyrannies of the sort of the soviet union or nazi germany (wich he studied extremly deeply and thaught courses in university about them), wich is why he opposed it so much that he threaten to go on a hunger strike if he was forced to use such pronouns. The lgbt angle…
/r/MensRights03/09/22 08:25 PM
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(i comment the same here so others can read it) To me is not about the people that call themselves feminist, is about feminism itself as an entity, as a political force, as a narrative, as a culture. The individuals are irrelevant. The problem is not a individual feminist at the top being misandristic, the problem is that the rest whole of feminism does literally nothing whatsoever in the slightest about it, they dont call them out at all. Feminism as a whole as an entity has no self-moderation …
/r/MensRights03/09/22 08:19 PM
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To me is not about the people that call themselves feminist, is about feminism itself as an entity, as a political force, as a narrative, as a culture. The individuals are irrelevant. The problem is not a individual feminist at the top being misandristic, the problem is that the rest whole of feminism does literally nothing whatsoever in the slightest about it, they dont call them out at all. Feminism as a whole as an entity has no self-moderation system in place, tahts why i oppose your idea, i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 08:17 PM
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Incel is a sexual slur like whore is.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 09:10 PM
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Absolutly everyone here is welcome (including homophobes) with the solely purpose to advocate against feminism.
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 09:10 PM
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You are not getting the point, our situations are not symetrical. A criminial rapes you, but society itselfs destroys my life. WE are not raping those women, but WE are destroying those innocent men. All i really want is for you to see that theres no simmetry there. And therefore your claim that we shouldnt fear because you dont fear is not valid and i reject it because they are not equivalent. The same society itself that im supposed to love and develop in and take care of me, that same society…
/r/AntiFeminists23/08/22 11:32 PM
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I reject your framing of this being ''unfortunate'', is not, is a deliberate artificial feminist decision to sacrifice men for the sake of women while preaching equality on the same breath. The legal system itself is not encouraging and sponsoring men to rape you by removing all accountability and punishment from it, that why i specificaly refered to it as the equivalent of rape being legal, imagine your situtation but in a world where is legal to rape, thats the world i live in. Where are the j…
/r/AntiFeminists23/08/22 10:44 PM
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Personally the specific thing that blew my mind and made me antifeminist was finding out that a woman can destroy my life by simply lying about sexual harrasment, not by abusing the system, but symple by using the system. This to me is the practical equivalent to rape being legal, i objectively and literally have no practical way to be safe other than to stay scared in my house and not to engage with the opposite gender, even permanently walking round with a recording camera wouldnt be enough be…
/r/AntiFeminists23/08/22 10:08 PM
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''I believe that paper abortions without any form of financial compensation to the mother should only be allowed if the mother is a rape offender or used fraud'' Should the man be compensated if the woman aborts the baby against his will then? ''This could pregnancy-trap some morally pro-life women'' I agree leniency on condoms is a problem, but i dont see how that is a ''trap'' for the woman, in that case he is not ''traping'' her, i reject the use of that word specificaly, is not like she has …
/r/MensRights23/08/22 04:17 AM
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I would reply but since you are insulting and getting personal better not waste my time. Blocked.
/r/AntiFeminists21/08/22 05:00 PM
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I completly agree, im MGTOW, however i still recommend not to take important desicions when in emotional distress. She definetly loses massive points for it, but maybe she makes it up in other areas? If she doesnt yes definetly break up.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 10:55 AM
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MGTOW
/r/MensRights21/08/22 10:03 AM
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The difference in your examples is that when the woman is abusive she gets a free pass while the man is punished. Thats not ''symmetrical'', that only goes one way. Thats were our antifeminism stems from, we are not anti women, we are anti feminism. I dont dislike women, i dislike the social rules around women that are unfair towards me as a man, thats where my antifeminism comes from. So for the love of god dont ever again compare us with fds thats not tolerable.
/r/AntiFeminists21/08/22 09:44 AM
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Ask her if she is willing to admit women bad qualities also. If she is willing to say that then she should admit women are top tier manipulators lyers that play victim to get their way, that women are very emotionally abusive in nature and have no empathy for mens feelings.
/r/AntiFeminists21/08/22 09:36 AM
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Exactly i celebrate your decision
/r/MenSupportMen20/08/22 05:30 PM
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Incel is a sexual slur equivalent to whore aka sexual shaming.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 05:03 PM
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Im thinking but i dont think women lack any rights when compared to mens rights. I think it constitutes an issue for the men rights movement when women rights get unilateraly decided and enforced unequally with their men rights counterpart. For example i think is a psychopathic societal abomination to be advocating for more women CEOs when 80% of homeless people are male, the apathethic disposability of men expressed by those priorities shocks my soul to be honest.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 04:59 PM
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It is misandry under a context of supposedly feminist equality, is a male gender role. In a world were women follow their female gender roles, those male gender roles are their fair counter part. Think of it this way, equality can be achieved either by '' 0 = 0 '' (no gender roles for anyone), or by '' x = y '', wich supossedly is a fair ''agreement'' among the genders to each one to fullfill what they are best at (wich is the conservative conception of equality)
/r/MensRights19/08/22 07:45 PM
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Still thats putting the blame on men even if you dont intend it, women allowed feminism to take over just as much. This incapacity to put the blame on women along men is imo essentially the root of what got us where we are.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 04:22 PM
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''It was our fault as men for doing this'' I am not willing to YET blame everthting on men once again. I profusely refuse. Never again. Its all men and womens fault that we find ourselves where we are. I think this error of judgement of allowing feminist extreminism comes from not recognizing the male gender role of ''not complaining'' of ''not being empathize with''. Is like a circular puzzle because think about it, if our gender role is to ''not complain'' then how on earth were we supposed to…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 04:05 PM
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I think it is an spectrum that depends on how someone answers this question: ''How did feminism get the way it is now in the first place?'' So the antifeminists that fall on that side of the spectrum do it because they believe feminism could have never gotten the way it is if ''women'' didnt want it to be this way, ''women created feminism in their own image'' if that makes sense, which is why they believe most women nowadays want to use men (wich somewhat mirrors the ''patriarchy'' concept, dif…
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 03:32 PM
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It means i support men and women being treated with equal opportunity (not literally equal) but feminism conflicts with this nowadays BY sponsoring, incentivizing and depenalizing women to use men as easily and free from repercussions as possible, BY hindering men issues progress as much as possible and BY granting as much unfair double standar advantages to women as possible.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 02:53 PM
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lol consensual rape
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 02:32 PM
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Im not gonna get personal with you kid i layed the facts for you, is up to you to open your mind or not. Farewell.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 02:11 PM
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1) Abortion is not a women vs men debate is a fetus vs baby debate, roughly 50% of women are pro life. 2) Pay gap doesnt exist once you correct for hours worked and positions. Men make up the overwhelmign majority of work related injuries and deaths and 80% of homeless people while feminist whine about jeb bezos being male. 3) In those societies women are subordinate in exchange of protection, this has always being the case. Male suffer the vast majority of violence and are not empathized at all…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 02:02 PM
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Men would be considered/treated as disposable, 95% of prisoners, majority of work/war death/injuries, 80% of homeless people, no family rights, and so on, while that society would only care about women fullfillment and empowerment. ....oh wait.
/r/AntiFeminists19/08/22 01:52 PM
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Never ever seen that phrase ever here. Are you familiar with the phrase ''women and children first''? What do you think of that? Do you think women should be protected more than men, empathized more than men? Because that also counts as a ''woman's place''. Basicaly if you as a woman get to be protected more, if my suffering as a man is worth less than yours, that means that in exchange you should respect me for it instead of taking it for granted if that makes sense, that would be the ''place''…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 09:23 AM
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Thats a very interesting question. I think the incremental points of no return were the moments it became socially dangerous (to whatever degree) to openly criticize/oppose feminism, causing it to ''purity spiral'' out of control. So why did this happen then? I think because feminism was giving magnitudes more of power and resources that it could ever handle properly, wich leads to waste wich leads to corruption wich leads to tiranny. Basicaly feminism was handed the power to redesign the social…
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 02:39 AM
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Yes so to that he being neutral can be seen both ways, because when anything negative or inferior is talked about ''he'' is also used. You could interpret ''he'' being neutral as the ''common'' the ''not special'', while ''she'' being used not neutrality as to use it in a ''special'' way. Wich is my interpretation of that, because women in general require more ''rules'' to be followed around them and to interact with them (think about that for example a man looking at a woman in a public space i…
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 07:09 PM
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Im not sure what you mean, theres different layers: 2nd wave feminists that when asked about 3rd-4th wave feminism will say ''WeLl ThAts NoT ReAl FemInsM'' and then do absolutly nothing else whatsoever in the slightest about 3rd wave feminism beyond saying that = ~79% 2nd wave feminists that when asked condemn 3rd wave feminism = ~20% 2nd wave feminists that condem 3rd wave feminist without being asked = ~1% 2nd wave feminists that will admit is 2nd wave feminism fault that we are in the current…
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 07:00 PM
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It depends what you mean, im fine with 2nd wave in theory, my mother was in the navy and my sister is an engineer. BUT 3rd wave feminism didnt happen by accident out of nowhere, but rather is a direct consequence of 2nd wave feminism bad practices and lack of moderation of its own narrative. The 3rd feminist demon spawned from 2nd wave feminist whom did virtually nothing to stop it, they allowed the narrative to slowly become more and more antimale, they started to give mroe and more privileges …
/r/AntiFeminists16/08/22 06:42 PM
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Oh its good glad to help :)
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:34 AM
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Makes sense good luck :)
/r/MensRights14/08/22 03:10 AM
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PS: Imagine if ''rights'' were given to groups by society according to how well they do at sports, that would be incredible unfair to women because men would get the upper hand almost every time. Well this is what is currently happening to men right now, ''rights'' are being given by society according to ''empathy'', from wich women will always get the upper hand, ending up in an overhwelmingly unfair disproportional help towards women instead of men to the poitn that progress in men issues is v…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 02:29 AM
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I stop caring about being a man the moment i lost interest in a relationship with a modern woman. My desire to be a real man is crippled if theres no realistic real woman for me to couple with, within a society that doesnt even value real man in the first place, its like it doesnt make sense anymore, like the enviroment does matter, it feels masochistic to care to be a man in 2022.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 02:24 AM
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I believe theres a extremely enourmous and deeply rooted empathy gap. This translates in what i believe is the core root of the male gender role wich is male disposability, aka ''women and children first''. Our suffering is simply and literally worth less than the suffering of a woman, to the point that it is for the most part invisible. This makes the situation very tricky because being invisible in practice means our turn never comes, our issues never get addressed, our situation never progres…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 02:19 AM
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It is not the same thing but im not wasting my time talking with womeone that insults me
/r/MensRights13/08/22 01:25 AM
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Same applies, physicaly violent people are more male than female not the other way around. The problem with doing it your way becomes apparent when ''whole general comparisons'' of men vs women are being made in our discourse, statements like ''we live in a patriarchy that benefits men''. In that context where that ''general holistic'' discussion is being made and has political consequences, then it matters why we chose any variable over the other to make affirmations like ''men rape more than w…
/r/MensRights12/08/22 05:15 PM
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No worry thank you :)
/r/MensRights12/08/22 03:14 PM
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Is not ''men rape more than woman'' is ''rapists are more male than female'' Is the other way around thats very importnat, rapist are their own criminal group, they dont represent ''men'' or ''women''.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 02:46 PM
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This kind of critique without any examples is worthelss useless and insulting
/r/MensRights12/08/22 01:40 PM
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What isnt caused by patriarchy? Patriarchy of the gaps is all i see.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 09:45 PM
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The problem with rape abortion being legal is that lwomen will be hugely incentivized to false accuse of rape to get her abortion and thats off the table for me after the metoo cancer i will never support anything that fucks over men like that. So i would go for a first few weeks being legal approach to also avoid the abortion black markets.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 05:07 PM
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Oh you are right i meant that, english not my language :) never being married and never will hehe
/r/MensRights07/08/22 02:04 PM
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For every man not caring for a woman there was a woman not caring about a man. Feminism represents the past the worst it possible can to maximize victimization.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 01:29 PM
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Is just gender roles in bed kept in place to benefit women as everything else, if they dont orgasm they are the ones that fail obviously equality. Traditionally as with gender roles we as a men were supposed to learn how to feel the women and guiding them to climax, but with ''equality'' thats over imo.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 01:07 PM
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My mother in law is just too territorial with my dad, the only way i can have a conversation with my dad without she interrupting and gaslighting is inviting him outside of hsi house alone when she is busy theres no other way to have a notmal relationship with my dad. My real mother on the other hand was more of a monster i remember i even had to hold my breath in my own house when she was near me so she wouldnt ''detect'' any emotional activity coming from me because if she did she would jump o…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 12:55 PM
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And honestly if she doesnt orgams she is the one that is bad a sex to my view
/r/MensRights07/08/22 12:48 PM
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I sometimes daydream about doing a project called ''never forget'' as a sort of time capsule that shows everything feminism has ever done to men.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 12:46 PM
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White pill is for example when you read about a domestic abuse shelter for men opening in florida, like small glimpses of real hope (not delusional blue pill).
/r/MensRights04/08/22 11:33 PM
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''If you didn't want your wife to leave you, you should have been a better partner'' To me this is the most disturbing and dehumanizing part by far, the assumption that the women can do no wrong.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 11:26 PM
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Redpill is understanding the system and acting on it, blackpill is the defeated depression, so with red pill (and some white pill) you counteract the blackpill xD
/r/MensRights04/08/22 11:25 PM
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Kevin Samuels GIGACHAD
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:55 PM
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Thank you im need of some white pilling im super blackpilled haha
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:46 AM
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Are you turning into a feminist or you going someplace else to fight feminism?
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 06:27 PM
2

I would call it ''chaos'', how likely is she to 180 you out of nowhere. And feminism of course.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:59 PM
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A
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:09 PM
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Im not bothering anymore. MGTOW !!
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:39 PM
2

Glad to help :)
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:16 PM
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Cheers brother
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:59 PM
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Basicaly I think you can have female nature without having feminism.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:58 PM
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I think those are different, female nature can be played around like male nature can so is more of a natural game of life, while feminism is the sociopolitical force putting men down, feminism is societies manifest way to prioritize care for women while ignoring men. Like imagine if we lived under rampant ''masculinism'', that would get pretty ugly as well.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:56 PM
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They probably deserve it, but is to our advantage to keep free speech because the truth is on our side.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 02:56 PM
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Also i bet men are much more likely to protect others from crime or prevent crime or violence or accidents and so on but we dontget statistics on that, i call them ''anticrimes''.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 02:24 PM
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*all feminists
/r/MensRights31/07/22 02:22 PM
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ok
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:06 AM
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Look to close off my point in this conversation is that you talked about a poll about who has it better, and to my view males being victims of the majority of violence on itself is enough to answer that poll as women have it better full stop. I meant comparing violence against men vs women having less access to earning money (wich is not even true when you considered how much more money they get in social benefits and services and wealthfare type policies). Ok then i was missinterpreting who you…
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:04 AM
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Yes it does, males being the majority victims of violence dwarfs your money concerns to the ground i think is psychopathic to even compare those things, and i think you dont realize this because you are not ware of your empathy bias towards women.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:34 AM
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No they are not because they are protected more i already said this, this is why men suffer the mayority of violence, women are kept protected form violence because they are valued more as humans, they are empathized more, their suffering is more important, that makes them more valued than men. You tunnel vision into money as if thats the only thing that matters, and that money is only gotten by the minority men that gets on top surviving the slaughter on the way. I acknolowdge that infanticide …
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:17 AM
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No thats the opposite of realism, thats thinking averages in a vacuum and replacing all quantities with ''some''.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:07 AM
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Feminist male oppresion, wich is artificial policies made by the state to purposely advantage women over men, not a cherry picked outcome.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:33 AM
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A realist looks at the real world. We cant have this psychopathic lack of empathy towards male suffering while men suffer the vast mayority of net violence. You feel more empathy for women because thats their natural biological advantage, they naturally cause more empathy for them on other people is biological, in the same way that you feel much more empathy for a kid or a baby, you also feel more empathy for a female than a male. Thats why such a horrible fact like men suffer the vast mayority …
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:30 AM
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You are a feminist right ? Confess your sins repeant to the red pill and you will be saved troll.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:22 AM
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I disagree look at India for example is an epicenter of feminist male oppression, or how muslim cultures are starting to have the same problems like targeted divorce rapes. Woman are not seen less valuable than man because they are protected more. Men suffer much more net violence across the baord no matter where you are in the world. Wherever you think women have it worse than here, men have it even ''worser'' as well.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:02 AM
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I like it ive seen some cyphers out there, and pullers are everywhere just like the movie lol.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:05 AM
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Exactly i agree thats what i mean im mgtow. Society humiliates men who dont have sex.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 10:17 PM
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You stop caring if she suffers or not, if shes happy or not, it becomes unconsequential to you, her experience is out of the picture. Is like you only pay attention to her superifcially to tell her whatever she needs to hear to fit your purpose, shes part of the background of your life now she is not a protagonist anymore, just furniture. You dont love her, you dont hate her, you dont imagine her in your future, you dont tell her what you truly feel ever again and so on. This gets easier to do t…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:58 PM
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Thank you very much for caring. It occurs to me that maybe as a woman you are the most out of touch with how prevalent and consequential are both the more constant threat of violence men face as men, and the potential crippled sex life can be to them. Im active in mens support subs and theres not a single day when there isnt a young man expressing suicidal thoughts for being a virgin.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:50 PM
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I think if your mother is capable of talking to you like that theres no hope she will ever listen, so the proper way to do is for you to cut off empathy for her, so by doing that what she does no longer will affect you for the most part. Cutting off empathy is not hating her either, but be indifferent, her experience no longer matters to you.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:28 PM
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Pretty metaphor i like it. But honestly i do beleive feminism is lying on purpose they know whats up.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 09:07 PM
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You can try anything you like, but if the outcome is no more sex + monogamy = separation.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 01:41 PM
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It is not at all dont let them gaslight you. I recommend you separate.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 10:52 AM
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In fact it doesnt end there, if like a noob, i would react too fast to her unnecessary blocking movement, and move out of her way like a normal person would do, gues what she does then.... she moves back again to block again !! and again !! Im so skilled at dodging it at this point that i almost forgot that happens
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/22 10:22 PM
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I should haha i swear it feels almost magical, i spot the old lady coming, and i wait for it... wait for it.. wait for it... and there it goes she moves completly unecesarily to block my pathing is beautiful. And i ignore her of course i wont comply to her non consensual forced social interaction on me.
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/22 10:19 PM
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I think their point (not that i necessarily agree) is that if there wasnt for those weak men we wouldnt find ourselves in the current situation we are in in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 10:16 PM
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Theres this thing that has happened hundreds of times to me with old women that ive never heard from anybody else. When im walking on the sidewalk and an old women is walking towards me from the opposite direction, it is redundantly clear that if we just keep our direction we wont collide, but yet they 90% of the time purposely MOVE towards my trajectory to get into colliding trajectory if that makes sense (english not my language). Why? I think is to force the social interaction, it foces me to…
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/22 10:04 PM
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Well whatever problem the minimum wage women currently has, the homeless male has it worse or even the not homeless men who takes her place has the same situation. Women are actually more educated than men currently if i remember correctly. That reminded me of this as a bonus: https://www.reddit.com/r/Egalitarianism/comments/obt8wk/comment/h3qp0fo/ Women are a minority in college? We need quotas. Women are a mayority now? We dont need quotas for men quotas are bad now oh how convenient.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:42 PM
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Exactly only difference being slut is currently considered a slur and has real social consequences most of the time, wich is not the case when being misandristic.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:15 PM
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Exactly not only theres like twice as much male homelesness, but the resources spent to aid each individual homeless people is roughly 2 to 3 times more towards female homeless people. Adjacent to that, the minimum wage bracket is overpresetented by women (1.5 to 2 times), so if feminist applied their equal representation logic to the minimum wage bracket that would immensely help male homelesness by creating positions and incentivizing companies to train/hire those homeless men.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:06 PM
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On the topic, would calling men incels virgin losers small dick energy count as oversexualization as well? Because thats a plague everywhere. Why do i as a man need a womans permision to have sex (aka not being a virgin) to deserve the respect of society? WHy do i need to fuck a vagina to deserve respect and my opinion to ve valid?
/r/MensRights29/07/22 07:30 PM
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Onlyfans people are already sexual nobody is making them sexual, and women using this much more often can easily be seen as an advantage as well. Men suffer much more net violence overall, what feminist do is cherrypick the specific subcategories of violence that affect women more, but are a minority when compared to the overall violence. On top of that they argue that male on male violence is irrelevant, because for some unknown collectivist misandrist reason, if a male murders another male tha…
/r/MensRights29/07/22 07:28 PM
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I reject the concept of sexualization. Humans are sexual beings by default.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 07:08 PM
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Im not sure what problems are you refering to
/r/MensRights29/07/22 06:43 PM
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JP GIGACHAD
/r/AntiFeminists29/07/22 10:12 AM
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We definitly need women on our side because their word is simply worth more currently. I do see a consistent decline in popular support for feminism because of the mess they are creating, but they still hold their power in institutions, with wich they censor, deplatform, propagandize, gaslight and block men issues from being address properly, to the point that a big proportion of men arent even aware of the situation, even feeling guilty of all the net privilege they supposedly have. So you can …
/r/MensRights29/07/22 10:11 AM
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I dont have the sources but i remember reading about more adult women being saved from the titanic than underage boys. Also for example, the UN using this logic for its aid to places like africa, giving priority to women when it comes to food medical supplies and so on. I should look for sources though i cant prove it.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:27 AM
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I dont think is unfortunate but rather purposely driven by a ''drunk on power'' 3rd wave feminism. Why? Because theres 2 ways you can empower women over men, one is to create one sided policies that benefit women, and the other one is to cripple the progress on men issues. So i dont think this is an accident, and the solution is to push back against this feminism just enough to force them to stop doing that, to change their goal from ''women empowerment'' to ''actual equality''.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:23 AM
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I personally think the gender role of ''male disposability'' sums it all up pretty well. Also known as ''women and children first''. An gender equal society can only happen when that phrase is repudiated like if it is a racist slur.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:13 AM
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I think the capacity to address the nuance of special cases is proportioanl to the communication technology available. So in a world globalized by social media is much easier to look understand and administrate special cases, but in a world where paper letters were a luxury theres no capacity for nuance if that makes sense.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:10 AM
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Interesting, allow me ask you a question, of all the gender roles men had and still have, wich one do you think is the most pernicious, damaging and fundamental to male issues?
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:01 AM
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Exactly, battle, crime, even hunting wild animals, everything that is a risk or heavy work was carried by men.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:58 AM
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Exactly im fine with the past being horrible for both. Staying at home is an advantage in a time where crime was much higher than anything we can imagine now even in the worst areas of the world, is not arbitrary rule to oppress, is for protection, men re the ones that have to go outside and take the risks, wich might get rewarded or get you killed. Women advantage = safety Men advantage = freedom
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:55 AM
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I dont think they had it any worse than men, remember the apex falacy, the tribe chief might had been better off but the mayority of men were being used as working mules and murdered all over the place.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:37 AM
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I dont think is possible because we are not dealing with rational agents. Personally the only solution i see is to tune down feminism power on society however we can to a level that will require them to become rational to negotiate, they have so much power now that they dont need to listen to anyone, is not you ''coming across'' in any way, is simply they not listening. Feminism is as intolerant as a one party state at this point it can only be dealt with with revolution.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:05 AM
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I bet we can still get fuck over even with the QR code it is impossible to be safe.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 07:43 AM
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Mgtow is an apolitical lifestyle choice community, so you can be both MRA and mgtow at the same time, or either without the other.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 10:01 PM
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I do agree that women are definetly more emotional but i wouldnt be able to have an opinion beyond that, into something so ''deep'' into the female psyche if that makes sense.
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 09:50 PM
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What do you mean by mgtow points? i am mgtow
/r/MensRights28/07/22 09:46 PM
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Well my body is the one that has to work for 18 years to be the money slave of a women that hates me and that doesnt need to respect me at all because she is guaranteed to suck my money out of me by force, and doesnt need to follow my will on how the money is spent for the child or how is the the child raised and so on, my body is just a money making tool without any rights on the situation.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 08:50 PM
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Yes i swear to god every time i go for a walk is old women who purposely get on my path to force a social interaction. We are walking in opposite directions, is redundantly clear that if we dont move we are not going to collide, yet they 90% of the time they purposely move into my direction to collide, to force the social interaction of looking at them, it never fails it blows my mind.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 06:28 PM
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Point 12 is hilarious theres no way that is true
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 06:19 PM
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haha
/r/MensRights28/07/22 06:04 PM
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Wrong (smiles in Trump)
/r/MensRights28/07/22 05:52 PM
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Oh really i thought it was about ''choice'' i wonder where did i get that from...
/r/MensRights28/07/22 03:53 PM
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Thats literally what you are doing.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:14 PM
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This
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:13 PM
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Give me Paper Abortion and then we can talk.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:12 PM
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Free speech is an advantage because the truth is on our side
/r/MensRights28/07/22 09:11 AM
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The biggest and most important problem of all is the active gaslight and blocking of the adressal of men issues, because according to feminism men have perfect lives and are advantaged literally in every aspect of life because jeb bezos is male and therefore the idea of adressing male issues is laughable. And they are implementing this way of thinking across all the institutions of our society from entertainement to education to legal courts to social media to goverments and even international o…
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/22 08:25 PM
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Ask this to yourself, would all 100% of women feel harrased in the same situation? From the male persepective i tell you that most women will want us to be pushy because it turns them on, so im not denying what you felt, but if you dont want to go through the same experience again you should do more than just removing his hands, the best thing would be for you to explicitly say with english words out loud ''i do not want anything from you'' with an angry face, be redundantly clear with real lang…
/r/MensRights27/07/22 06:53 PM
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Because it assumes everything is mens fault axiomaticaly and every time it forces a change in the social fabric it doesnt even remotly try to even consider in the slightest what the male perspective is and how this social fabric changes will affect men because it axiomaticaly assumes that men always have it better no matter what, with things like the apex falacy. The schools of feminism that matter are the ones that do this, the ones that have power, the ones that are infecting all the instituti…
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/22 02:35 PM
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Female supremacist movement for the empowerment of women regardless of equality. Not sure what you mean by schools of thought, things like intersectionality?
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/22 02:27 PM
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ceos
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 08:07 PM
1

male suicide can wait tahts not important, makinf female COS now thats a priority worth the effort
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 08:07 PM
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blocking the adressal of men rights because theres no gender parity on parliament
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 08:07 PM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWUsn4yyJI&ab\_channel=DailyMail
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 08:07 PM
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here is a classical example
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 08:06 PM
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As antifeminist i dont think of feminist as an average of people, my concern is specificaly the feminist that are at the top of the movement piloting thing as whom opinions actually have real consequences for men
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 08:06 PM
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That assesment is blind to the actual political social forces currently driving our society. Individuals sure theres all kind of individuals of both genders with all kinds of intentions that goes without saying, thats obvious. The difference is in the actual political forces, feminism is institutionalizing the gaslight and hatred of men across all the institutions of our society, while there is not such thing as ''Meninism'' doing anything of the sort. So forget about individuals thats not what …
/r/MensRights26/07/22 10:31 AM
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MGTOW
/r/MensRights22/07/22 06:23 PM
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Get some security cameras to record posible new abuse
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:28 PM
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Well as a man i would guess that the less emotional you express what you wanna tell him the more he will listen, if he perceives you as being emotionally loaded/driven he will stop listening. He might need emotionally inert facts that show you deserve what you are getting like other jobs you have done in those 20 years that required skilled and effort, show him your skill with facts with expressions that are empty of feelings. What im really curios about if this thing you said ''can't prove or b…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:12 PM
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What would you do if you were a man and a woman was treating you in that way? Or what do you think the man should?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:56 PM
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Very simple, feminism =/= women rights. Feminism =/= female supremacist empowerment regardles of equality. This is because it assumes from the get go that men have perfect lives and no problems wahtsoever and everything is mens fault therefore hurting men for the sake of women is always justified, including gaslighting and blocking the progress on mens rights with the goal of directing all societys attention and resources to exclusevily help women. Here is an classical example of feminism blocki…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 09:43 AM
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Could you sumarize as a question i cant bother with that wall of text thank you.
/r/AntiFeminists18/07/22 04:47 PM
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Now post the same with the genders inverted on r/Feminism
/r/AntiFeminists18/07/22 11:26 AM
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this
/r/AntiFeminists18/07/22 11:23 AM
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I think she thinks men have it soo soo soo soooooooo good that wasting time on mens issues is laughable
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:19 AM
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HOLY SHIT did you just blame for it HAHAHA Im not even gonna keep reading get lost retard.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:09 PM
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The very first thing a woman always says when she is mad at you is that you are a virgin loser or your peepee is small or both. So this notion that is mostly men is doing is competly utter trash if you dont mind me. If you want a personal example i remember very carnally in my mind when a girl friend of mine told me ''i hate virgin men'' (not towards me, just in general), i was never able to look at her the same way again i still get chills remembering it it was so so honest and true and crude.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:57 PM
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Yes haha she also laughed when ask about male suicide in other video but i dont have it at hand. So those are the kind feminists that matter and define what feminism is, so feminism needs to take responsability of them either agreeing with them or denouncing them as not real feminist, just ignoring them whiel admiting to agre with men rights ends up not beign enough. The femcels on reddit dont really matter of course.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:53 PM
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Nope, absolutly not, if you say women are shamed for not having sex than i can just say men are shamed for having too much sex too because why not you cant disprove that. ''Feminine celibate'' is not the equivalent of ''Involuntary celibate'', why is it necesary to add a ''fem'' to make it about women thats nonsensical why not call involuntary celibate women just ''incels'' as well whats up with that? Why isnt it then ''mascel'' fo rmen? Masculine celibate, honestly i would be completly fine wit…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:28 PM
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It is the same because both are sexual shaming, it doesnt matter if it is for not having sex or for having too much sex, they are both shaming you for your sexual life.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:20 PM
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Not just ''admit'', but literally do anything whatsoever about it, if they claim to ''own'' the ''feminsit label'' then they need to ''defend'' it from the ''bad feminists''. So she ''admiting it'' is not enough, doesnt cut it, wont accept it, she needs to push against by, for example, posting on r/feminism what yoau re showing us here. And it is not just reddit, ''bad feminism'' is at the core and top of feminism and piolets the pwoer feminism has, for example here is a classical example of a f…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:18 PM
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You are a Christian but you dont live under a Christian paradigm sadly, you live in a feminist hellhole. Have you gone to church for advice?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:29 PM
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DIVORCE
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:46 PM
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Yes anything can be anything in any way to the circular infinitum. They both the same in the sense that they are both sexual shaming slurs. Incel is a sexual slur for men LIKE whore is for women. That means that if you think whore is a neutral term, then so it is incel, at the end of the day it depends on your definitions. To me is obvios that they are particularly used to attack an specific gender, regardless of their technical theoretical potential use of the word in a vacuum.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:44 PM
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100 years later but i gladly take it. What i would say is give me more please!! Flood this sub with those examples. What i would also say to them is go and post that on r/feminism and lets see their reaction.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:44 PM
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Do you know what this means: =/= ? It means unequal, an equal sign crossed by a line in the middle. And you are still calling me an incel after i explained to you thats a sexual slur.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:51 PM
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Has absolutly nothing with the gender, i just despise feminism, feminism =/= woman. And incel is a sexual slur so you are the bigot here.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:38 PM
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Incel is a sexual slur for men like whore is for women
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:21 PM
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OooHh YoU ArE HarrRasMing PLeeeesaeseee
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:52 PM
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Then why the fuck do you keep replying jesus christ haha. Im sorry if i missunderstood you good luck.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:47 PM
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8th tactic) Being as unhelpful and obtuse to the conversation as possible
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:35 PM
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Look at yourself ''the 7th tactics of gaslight''. You obviously enjoy this because when i try to switch to a neutral discussion you come back to feelies. The only thing you said about feminism is that they dont want you to post this on their sub.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:29 PM
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Learning, if you would like would you give me your take on feminism? So i get a clearer picture of where you come from. For example, do you think women issues are equally represented as male issues, and is all simmetrical? I think theres a 1 to 1000 unbalance there, women issues get all the attention and resources.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:20 PM
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I concede i misread yet im not attacking you in any way shape or form. 7th tactic) Pretend to be under attack
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:16 PM
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6th tactic) Its all your perception, theres no logic
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:13 PM
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5th tactic) Ad hominem
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:11 PM
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Ok then i celebrate that, but the way you said it ''assume responsability'' is wrong, misleading and your fault.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:08 PM
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That might not be what you ''intended'' to say, but that IS what you said. Im not responsable for your bad communication skills.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:01 PM
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Ok i checkmated already several times we can move on the discussion if you like. For example my mind was blown when reading your response to another comment where you said something to the effect of ''yes is about time men take some responsabilities for the children'' What? Are you for real? Men pay most if not all the child needs, how on earth can you say that with a straight face my mind literally meltdown reading that haha.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:57 PM
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Analize this: 1st tactic) Changing the subject 2nd tactic) Projecting your own behaviour onto the other person 3rd tactic) Strawmaning their argument into a logicless irrational demand 4th tactic) Repeat 3rd tactic Thats YOU
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:53 PM
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Im arguing that IF you dont do it THEN you are a hypocrite. Then i see you trying to escape from the argument by strawmaning it into a random logicless demand, therefore ''not reasonable''. Im amuzed by this is the 3rd tactic you are using to try escape, im learning from this.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:41 PM
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You are projecting onto me to weasel your way out of my perfectly logical argument that proves you are hypocrite. Take this on board: You are a hypocrite and i just proved it.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:22 PM
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What are you even talkign about you, are literally a hypocrite if you dont post this same messge on the other side full stop, you cannot change the subject your way out of it.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:15 PM
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This is exactly why we oppose feminism. People like you say ''we are for both genders'' yet your actions only ever go one way. Go aheda and do it, just to prove you are not a hypocrite to me and to yousrself, the expected response from them is irrelevant and you know that perfectly well.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:11 PM
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Now go an post the same on r/feminism changing the genders. ''I hope the bitterness from female mistreatment doesn't cause more women to take this out on general man.'' Otherwise your message is meaningless, unbalanced and hypocritical.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:36 AM
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Is a sexual slur for men just like whore is for women.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:34 AM
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Incel is a sexual slur equivalent to whore for women
/r/MensRights16/07/22 03:54 PM
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Proud MGTOW here and is nor even close.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 03:28 PM
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Im opposed to it unless an advantage of the same magnitude is also given to men at the same time, it can be anything as long as it uses the same amount of resources.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 03:23 PM
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What matter is what the feminist at the top who pilot the movement do. What i would like you to ask to those ''good feminist'' is what are they doing about the ''bad feminist''? If they do nothing about it, then imo they dont deserve to define what a feminist is. Feminism is defined by what feminism does.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 03:21 PM
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Feminism is by far the biggest obstacle blocking men rights from progressing.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 10:37 PM
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hahaha true ! True feminism has never been tried before
/r/MensRights12/07/22 01:46 AM
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haahhaha
/r/MensRights11/07/22 11:23 PM
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The problem is how are we going to keep feminism at bay within this sub while doing that. They will take over and sterilize this sub into another useless impotent sub for male issues. I cannot imagine doing that without women problems completly taking over and bein 99% of the discussion, while censorship based on women sensibilities ramps up more and more.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 10:16 PM
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Hahaha she hot dou
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 07:59 PM
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Exactly ideally there would be no quotas, but the world we live in is plagued with one sided female quotas. If i was in power i would completly remove gender from the state fullstop.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:59 PM
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Well all they need to do is womenlisten
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:06 PM
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Oh dam the image doesnt show the sub, is from r/centrism
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:01 PM
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Yes ! i love it. Female Apexceptionalism Thats interesting so we can call feminist on being guilty of Womedianexclusioning
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:59 PM
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haha
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:42 PM
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Apparently. To me is obvious feminist censorship.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:40 PM
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It does, it might be the more appropiate for a falacy. I personally love #NonApexToo
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:52 PM
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Awesome ! im saving this one :)
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:03 AM
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They do encourage for example doing it without taking his last name, because marriage is cool if the women is the superior slave master, specially if the man is particularly unhappy and distressed thats the cherry on top.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:46 AM
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Womenmotionalizing womenhistericaly my manspread mansplanation
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:44 AM
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No economic independence? They own they atm monkey money slave once married.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:42 AM
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What about for example their advocacy to not take his last name? that involves getting married, so they do speak about marriage under certain conditions. Feminism advocates to put/keep women at a superior supreme advantageous position over men across the board in life and society in every way possible they can think of and is humanly possible, and any harming done to men in the process will always be justified because patriarchy.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:37 AM
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Regular feminism created radical feminism by doing absolutly nothing to regulate their own extremes and the consequences of their policies and the narratives they push. Regular feminism breeds radical feminism every day.
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 03:16 AM
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I dont need your permision and your opinion is worthless to me. If you want to have a real discussion dont make it personal, get on my level.
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 01:25 AM
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Heres the thing, stoping misandry will most of the time (to also acknolodge men can also be misandristic) necesarily require for us to have the ability to tell a woman things to the effect of ''shut up'' ''behave properly'' ''grow up'' ''this is your fault take responsability''. So the real question then is, how the hell are we suppose to do that under an intolerant feminist paradigm?
/r/MensRights10/07/22 10:46 PM
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It does in the ''you can see but not touch'' kind of way. It doesnt when it comes to actually fullfilling real life sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 03:29 PM
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Dude just keep getting laid trust me the only love that matters is the love you dont ''need''.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/22 12:46 PM
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The feminist brainwashing campaing is massive keeping men blue pilled.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:39 PM
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Everything custody money things like domestic violence and so on is basicaly is just a one way contract. ''I thereby declare this woman now has complete ownership of my balls''
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:36 PM
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I see, regardless of how fine you are with her reaction, i think thas techincaly what needed to happen there just for explanation sake of the ''strange experience''.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:27 PM
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Because it benefits women
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:23 PM
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Proud MGTOW forever and is not even close.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:18 PM
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What them get no punishment because vagina.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:15 PM
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Sadly you have to cut her off theres nothing else you can do until the feminsit parasite leaves her.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:11 PM
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My question is why didnt your girlfriend defended you and explain the third party that she didnt need her help because thats what was needed to happen there.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:10 PM
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I see i was expecting something more related to the subreddit or antifeminism, but the idea is that we are already in front of the computer right?
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 12:02 PM
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Intolerant political force dedicated to empower women over men regardless of equality, fueled by the gaslight/blocking of any progress on men social and legal rights and the purposely hurting and disadvantaging of men with the goal of directing as much of society's attention and resorces to exclusevily help women, guided and applied by the indoctrination of patriarchy theory across all the instutions of our society wich by definition will always justify harming men for the sake of women.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:11 AM
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Incel is a sexual slur in the same way whore is.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 11:56 PM
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Whats the catch? xD
/r/AntiFeminists09/07/22 11:40 PM
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because social media infraestructure of the kind reddit uses is owned by progressives
/r/AntiFeminists09/07/22 10:50 PM
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Gift him a boxing bag to put in the garage with sound proof in the walls
/r/MensRights09/07/22 10:32 PM
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All you need to understand why mass shooters are men: https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/qoet4d/boy\_jumped\_by\_mobs\_for\_defending\_himself\_against/
/r/MensRights09/07/22 05:04 PM
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Im sorry to say but you simply have to cut her out of your life theres nothing else you can do. Maybe in a few yeras she will realize how wrong she is and you will be able to get together again, until then bye bye.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:49 AM
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Is too much to answer all at once, but i want you to take this with you at least. Is much harder and dangerous for men to express weakness because men dont have the proteccion women take for granted. If someone starts being physicaly violent against a woman in public, everyone jumps at the attacker and she is guaranteed to be helped and the attacker to be prosecuted. If someone attacks a man in public people watch in a circle and then that man loses respect in that social enviroment. I think you…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:29 AM
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Actively blocks any progress on men equality social and legal rights. It does by their indoctrination of patriarchy theory across all the institutions in our society. Feminism doesnt just say ''woman rights'', feminism says ''woman rights AND men dont have any problems and dont need any more rights and are gui.ty of eveyrthing that has ever gone wrong in history''
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 11:22 PM
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Your wrong thinking thats a missuse because, i repeat again to you, politics is not a deterministic software ran by definitions. Those women and men are not using the definition wrong because to them what they do IS feminism, to they intent, they are using it correctly, and they are running the movement proven by what the movement is doing in the real world. What feminism does defines what feminism is, not what wikipedia says when you type the word ''feminism'.
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 04:07 PM
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Thats naive if you actually pay attention to whats happening in the real world apart from theoretical definitions that are conveniently written by feminist themselves. And feminist are also male btw. Politics is not a deterministic software ran by definitions, only actions matter, this is human beings handling power with biases and lies. Lets go to the very roots, for example, do you think is fair for women to vote while they are not obligated to draft in case of war? If not then how is it fair …
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 03:39 PM
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I agree with you that paternity leave is a must, but come on joe rogan is cool he is just wrong on this one give him a break haha.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:50 PM
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''If you can kill it, i can at least abandon it. My money, my choice'' - Dave Chapelle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoudH-RPnEE&ab\_channel=NetflixIsAJoke
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:44 PM
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Tradwife needs to understand that our current social paradigm is not the same as it was, if they do, then thats fine. For example due to feminist quotas and policies in the workforce, today is at least twice as hard for a man to earn the same income he did 50 years ago, so a 2022 tradwife can only expect his husband to provide half as much. If she has the same traditional expectations from a man under this feminist society then no sorry not happening.
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 02:24 PM
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Not happening if i cant respond sorry and is not my fault.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:22 PM
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Yes because i cant be bother to be constantly scared of where my eyes are looking while bimbos are shaking their asses in front of me.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:21 PM
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It hurts me how people like you can be so naive. ''Nazism is the belief that all arians should have a fullfilling life together'' Jesus christ dude go beyond the definition that they themselves use to trick naive people like you. Look into the real world feminism has never being about equal anything, is only about female empowerment and supremacy regardless of equality. We are not anti feminsit ebcause we read the wikipedia fo feminism in 30 seconds and thought ''i disagree with this'', we are l…
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 02:19 PM
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We cant if we go to the other side we get instantly banned we are not the ones stopping dialogue.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:10 PM
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Critiques with insults are pointless
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 06:16 PM
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Thats generalizing across ages, but think about it from the 20s vs 30s onwards point of view, specifically supporting men at their 20s if then is to be expected from them to provide for others, otherwise that expectation would be immoral. So you are provided until 20, supported/appreciated/cared for in your 20s while you build up, and then you turn back on your 30s onwards to give back to society.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 04:14 PM
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Where you appreciated cared for in your 20s though?
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 03:54 PM
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I told you like 3 times we are not discussing supporting yourself like an adult you are not listening so this is my last response. And thats not true, women are much more supported than men are specially under this feminsit paradigm is not simmetrical at all, and women expect the man to do more of the work, they select you based on that while men dont.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 01:25 PM
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This type of critizism without examples is mute and pointless.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 01:20 PM
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Feminisim is sacrificing innocent men for the sake of women while preaching equality on the same breath. False accusations are as important as any rape is, is destroying anihiliation the false accused life. Yes they are common, give any human being the power to destroy another human only with their words, and that will be abused and spread like a plague. ''Do what i want or i false accuse you'' is being weaponized more and more, and it is the antithesis of a gender equal society. The consequence…
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 01:18 PM
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Taking care of your own is out of the question of course, the discussion is about adding on top of that the responsability of taking care of other people like a stay at home wife or kids, when you yourself where left behind on your own in your 20s by people and society in general.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 01:00 PM
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buy me dinner first at least
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 02:52 AM
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Im sorry for your situation good luck. Only men though? Women should also contribute the effort for men rights. They got the vote to take care of all society not only for themselves, yet that message doesnt seem to have come across yet to them thanks to feminism.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 02:26 AM
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Yes taking care of yourself yes, i think the man that was not taken care of should dedicate all his energy and resources on taking care of himself thats the concept rather than also carry the burden of taking care of other people as well (women as well but this is far rarer due to women rejecting men that cant provide by default). This is in a similar way that for example a feminist would say that a woman being a full time housewive obeying her husband is immoral even if she is doing it by her o…
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 02:15 AM
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I mean in a moral sense, a more obtuse meaning of taken care of by other peopel and society in general as opposed to be left alone and disenfranchised, even if it was his own fault that happen in the first place.
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 01:42 AM
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Its not an equal obligation the man goes to jail while the woman gets child support and wealthfare. Its a moral concept, not about the responsability of the partner, is the concept that the man should not even look for such partner to begin with if he was not cared for in his 20s, because it doesnt make sense for his life to behave as if he was taken cared of when he was not Yet society is absolutly oblivious to this conundrum wich means theres too many men out there in a severe disadvantage bec…
/r/AntiFeminists07/07/22 01:38 AM
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i bet she prick the condom or something she seemed to ahve planned it.
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 10:44 PM
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Dodged a huge bullet !!!
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 10:40 PM
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hahahahaha not even satan deserves this feminist cancer
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 10:38 PM
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Not necesarily, the women could save money before getting pregnant.
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 10:34 PM
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Ok then thats not ''just like men'', thats half. Also i doubt your stats are controling for the wife having a half time job only to buy her own stuff while the husband provides al the vital fundamental income needed to sustain the family. I would buy a lot more a statistic that compares the money or hours worked husband vs wife, instead of just counting if they are working at all or not.
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 10:30 PM
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Whats the percentage of married couples that have a wife working outside the home while the husband stays home though?
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 10:25 PM
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You dont have a boss when cleaning and cooking, if you dont do it or do it poorly theres no consequences and if there was consequences you would call that spousal abuse. What i mean by providing is being the breadwinner or anythign other that does have hard consequences if not done, actual real responsability of others. Basicaly is an unbalanced position to be in, the woman being taken care of in her 20s vs the man who wasnt, then in their 30s both carryng the same weight, thats not balanced or …
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 10:09 PM
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I disagree with that, if the goal here is ''equality'' then why is it a moral requirement for a male to provide, while i imagine you wouldnt say the same if it was a woman, why isnt she the one who must provide and he does the dishes and raises the kids in the home in the case of a male that wasnt taken care of in his 20s?
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 09:55 PM
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Is like they literally think their emotions are societys responsability to be taken care of for them even if it means destroying other innocent peoples lives. They dont think ''what is the most optimal practical solution'', they think ''im feeling bad and what needs to be done for me to feel good regardless of how much it destroys men lives for it is always justified because my feelings are the center of the universe''
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 09:39 PM
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Better sooner than later, imagine being trapped with a hag that will threaten you to get what she wants at every turn.
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 08:46 PM
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It depends, you are used to think of it as a man wich means you assume and dont expect any empatethic advantages to be gained from it. When women cry, they get bombarded with support wich is an objective advantage. So when i refer to men can cry i mean that equality means when we cry we must get the same amount of ''empatethic advantage'' that women get from it, otherwise is not ''equal''. Is self sabotaging if you are getting no empathy from it and you are just alone crying with yourself that g…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:52 PM
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No problem than you for putting the effort on sanitizing the community it can be a dirty job hehe
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:39 PM
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Ok makes sense, i think making a post with any sort of insult is doomed to be downvoted to hell no matter what. If you truly want awareness and to motivate open mindness, in my opinion, you will never get it if your post includes any sort of insulting towards the community. It is not necessary for your points to be made to include things like ''movement looks like a joke'' ''circlejerk'' ''braiwahsed'' and so on that will always fail to reach the other side. It doesnt matter if you are 100% corr…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:35 PM
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this
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 02:24 PM
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''If you can kill it, i can at least abandon it. My money, my choice'' - Dave Chapelle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoudH-RPnEE&ab\_channel=NetflixIsAJoke
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:21 PM
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RIght but you are accusing us of close mindedness because of the downvote rampage, so what im traying to express is that im still downvoting your post because is non consensual, to you thats just a ''detail'' worth pointing out at the end in a PS, to me is 1000x times more important than the insignificant benefits you talk about thats the difference. Like to me the post is as ridiculous as someone saying ''this drug gives you cancer BUT is also a good Vitamin B suplement so dont be so angry guys…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:16 PM
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Even if everything you say is true, its still agaisnt our rights if its not consensual genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:01 PM
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And is even ''perpetuating gender stereotypes'' as they say, in this case the stereotype that men cannot cry.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:39 PM
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Interesting, do you have an example of a man taking advantage of the system in a similar way i described a woman doing it?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:27 PM
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Is not a game, is a trap, your skill si irrelevant she has absolute control. Its not a gamble for her, she is guaranteed to win. You are generalizing it to the point that it becomes meaningless, like zooming out far enough such as everything is the same. Is not a fair natural risk like anything else, is an artificial human made system that is designed to use you like a money pig, just you, not her ''In ThE SaMe WaY'', just you. You wouldnt do bussiness with a contract that rewards the other part…
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 01:04 PM
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Sounds amazing. A concern i have is, what stops the woman to take the dowry and then turn around and say the husband doesnt satisfy her in bed, basicaly stealing the dowry from him and 2 years of alimony for free ina few months. Ive heard this is starting to happen more and more men getting targeted just to take the money and leave with a vague jsutification such as ''doesnt make me cum'' if that makes sense. It of course still is much better than the west anyway.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 12:49 PM
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A glympse of hope. Any remote toxicity you might find in it youc an find it x100 in the womansphere. And it makes me proud as a man how resilient we are keepnig our stance as we are while being bombarbed so much from all angles.
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 12:37 PM
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We antifeminists are happy because this indirectly means feminism is falling apart, is weakining, and both pro life and pro choice are welcome as antifeminist because antifeminism is not about getting any particular outcome of rights, but just simply about opposing the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 12:35 PM
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worth it... so far. You have no control over your future because she can fuck you over at any time if she pleases without any reason thanks to feminism, any emotional spark on her is enough and you cannot do absolutly nothing about it you are just gambling and thinking is good bussiness because you havent loss so far. With that said feel free to gamble your life away is yours of course.
/r/AntiFeminists06/07/22 12:25 PM
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Is not even regular more like rookie+ but i agree with the point haha (regular being the same as men)
/r/AntiFeminists05/07/22 08:21 PM
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I dont have kids or partner but it occurs to me this is what i would do: Move far away from the situation to heal and work on myself while gathering valuable ''evidence'' of the situation (such as evidence of your ex gf being a pain in the ass), to then show this evidence to my son in the future when he turns 18 so he can understand why i had to leave the situation and to show him who his mother really is. And if i was sucessfull in rebuilding my life maybe i would be able to offer him a nice he…
/r/MenSupportMen05/07/22 04:52 PM
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It is just not worth the hassle anymore i enthusiasticaly MGTOW for life
/r/AntiFeminists05/07/22 04:34 PM
3

Awesome !
/r/MensRights05/07/22 03:16 PM
1

The issue with rule #1 is that incentivizes every woman that wants an abortion to falsely accuse the father of rape, specially when rule#3 is active.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 11:34 AM
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MGTOW for life and is not even close
/r/AntiFeminists04/07/22 11:05 PM
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Because is non consensual genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 09:15 PM
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I wouldnt be surprise if you get instantly banned from there. Is to show you who really are the intolerant bad guys. It also challenges you to not be hyprocritical, if you ''care'' about us not doing X, then you should equally care about them not doing the same, otherwise you are not consistent.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 08:53 PM
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That was my first reaction but then i remembered you said you were 13 so i edited toa more proper response check it out.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 08:31 PM
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I challenge you to go do the exact same to r/feminism, go post and tell them ''im all for womens rights but that doesnt mean you all can undermine mens problems'' Go ahead ill wait.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 08:25 PM
8

Excellent !
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:44 PM
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The problem is that once we allow that into this sub it will very quickly turn into another feminist useless impotent space for men issues. I would suggest them as a last resort to call themselves ''2nd wave feminist'' in spaces like this one without exception, thats as far as i think is tolerable, 3th wave feminism is out of the question in my view we completly reject ''patriarchy theory''.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 06:00 PM
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Exactly, thats why feminists should stop using the term toxic masculinity and use instead something like ''toxic social standars for men''. Feminist need to understand that they dont own language.
/r/MensRights02/05/22 11:09 AM
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I think both can be used dont need to axe one jsut use both
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/22 12:25 AM
1

interesting ! Do you have more information about this, like what do the increases mean each time or more sources? Thank you
/r/MensRights30/04/22 11:54 PM
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Congrats :)
/r/AntiFeminists30/04/22 11:53 PM
1

Please stop supporting feminism if you somehow still do. I think you should keep supporting him emotionally its probably more important to him than you can imagine.
/r/MensRights29/04/22 03:22 PM
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Feminism = Female Supremacy Deal with it, accept it, go through the 7 stages of grief here they are: https://gatewaycounseling.com/7-stages-of-grief-explained/ Good luck
/r/MensRights29/04/22 01:12 PM
3

YESSS THIS MADE MY FUCKING DAY !!!!!!!!!! :)
/r/AntiFeminists28/04/22 07:31 PM
1

Thats an excellent point gettign married shoudl bea s ahrd as gettign a divorce well said
/r/AntiFeminists26/04/22 06:20 PM
1

haha nice well said :)
/r/AntiFeminists26/04/22 03:03 PM
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I feel it bro thsi si sick. I recommend mayeb try to record audio or video if possible in thsi situations to spread the word maybe to show to other adults around you.
/r/AntiFeminists25/04/22 06:01 PM
6

They are literally making it ilegal for man to look at a woman with his eyes in the UK.
/r/MensRights25/04/22 03:55 PM
2

YES !! Elon Musk is the fucking man.
/r/MensRights25/04/22 03:37 PM
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Hello thank your for your interest, i will dividie my participation in several comments because i dont want to end up typing a wall fo text :) First: ''I realized in the 20 years I’ve been active on the internet, user interactions have evolved with current events, such as the #MeToo movement, leading to greater openness and acceptance of feminists and feminism as a movement compared to the ‘90s.'' I belive you are completly wrong on that assessment, quite the opposite, specially in the last deca…
/r/AntiFeminists25/04/22 03:31 PM
3

What about a warning instead of a ban. A FDS comes and gets a warn saying ''we detected you belong to a misandristic sub, please be polite and respect men in this space or you will be reported, thank you''
/r/MensRights25/04/22 03:22 PM
1

I think misandry can also happen outside of feminism, although i agree feminism is by far the biggest source of it currently, as antifeminsit only care for ir on it, but as MRA i care for all misandry if that makes sense. Well i do it for political reasons, feminism in its pure sense is misandry but the brunt of feminists are naive people that searched for feminism in the wiki and read ''equality of genders'', so one thing is the ideology and the movement itself, and another thing is the individ…
/r/MensRights25/04/22 03:11 PM
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Thats the apex falacy of feminism, men were and are overrepresented at the bottom of society, and the middle class is overrepresented by women, so under your own theory you can say the middle class is a matriarchy. Metaphoricaly, men lives could be anywhere from 1 to 10, but womens live were guaranteed to be between 4 and 7. So then feminists see the 8 to 10 men and say ''we are being opressed'', completly ignoring and gaslighting the 1 to 4 men beneath them. This is why we despise feminism, in …
/r/AntiFeminists25/04/22 02:38 PM
2

I beleive the next change is coming in the form of decentralization with crypto based platforms.
/r/MensRights25/04/22 12:56 AM
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They do thanks to progressivism being the dominant paradigm. Around 2014 something important happened in society mostly driven by social media becoming the core of social discussion. Before 2014 liberals dominated politicaly, but after 2014 progressives dominate, and those are very different philosophies. We liberals were proud of considering ourselves''color blind'' in race issues, and we considered equality of the genders as already being achieved, culminating in the acceptance of the gay marr…
/r/MensRights25/04/22 12:42 AM
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Im 33, i think when i was a teenager things were better for us men, in the last decade the male hating has ramped up exponentially.
/r/MensRights25/04/22 12:16 AM
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Is technicaly just anti misandry, but i think most of us dont see a distinction between feminism and misandry (im anti feminist). So basicaly you will be questioned a lot about your feminism here. ''Some comments here scared me'', care to give any examples? If you would instead refer to your politics as ''egalitarianism'' or ''gender equality'' or ''humanism'' or any other term that to you is synonim to your ''feminism'', i guarantee you will be received much much better. Like imagine if i go to…
/r/MensRights24/04/22 11:56 PM
1

As in false accusations? I support prison time for false accussers and reparations for falsely ccused.
/r/MensRights24/04/22 09:19 PM
1

CRIMINALS and PSYCHOPATHS get aroused by PEOPLE in pain. Your double standars are pathetic, you say ''it doesnt say all men'' and then go into reading what we say in this sub with the most uncharitable interpretation that you possible can come up to, ''only when conveniet by women'' doesnt mean women are to blame for it, apply your own standars to yourself please. And you dont know who watches that pornography it can be women to and there plenty if not more of fendom pornography anyway (i know b…
/r/MensRights24/04/22 09:18 PM
1

Its literally saying that men get aroused by women in pain. You can speak out against male violence against women without dehumanizing and demonizing men. This is why i am antifeminist.
/r/MensRights24/04/22 08:56 PM
1

Would you give me examples of cyber bullyng?
/r/MensRights24/04/22 07:24 PM
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Same here, some literally grabbed my hand and put them on their neck.
/r/AntiFeminists24/04/22 04:17 PM
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No those are different things, a flair sure.
/r/AntiFeminists24/04/22 03:22 PM
3

Excellent response
/r/MensRights24/04/22 11:52 AM
3

Are you saying this is not feminism? What is it then? https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/uam256/end\_domestic\_abuse\_there\_fixed\_it/
/r/MensRights24/04/22 11:09 AM
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I support both as a Humanist, as MRA i only address men issues, thats honesty instead of what feminist do that pretend to care for both but only addres women issues. And i dont cosider ''online bullying'' as a real problem at all i think thast ridiculous for either gender.
/r/MensRights24/04/22 11:02 AM
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I think we need to develop more argumentative tools like feminism does, but with the self critique mechanism that you mention. So in the same way feminism creates terminology, concepts and narratives such as ''sexualization '' ''objectification'' ''toxic masculinity'' ''mansplainning'' and so on, they are very good at language manipulation and i think we need to cath up with that to compete toe to toe with them BUT without commiting their mistake and actually have a self critique mechanism that …
/r/MensRights23/04/22 05:29 PM
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It might have being me that told you to add it. Rethinking talking with people here i think that maybe the even better alternative would be ''only when convenient by the listener'' to not mix up this particular phenomena with gynocentrism. (Althought i do think gynocentrism plays a huge part on it) So the poll keeps evolving lmao.
/r/MensRights23/04/22 05:23 PM
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[Men being allowed to show emotions only when convienient for women] is only convienet for Gynocentric society. Is not convienet for egalitarian women for men to only being allowed to show emotion when its convienet to them. I know it rolls of the toungue doesnt it haha.
/r/MensRights23/04/22 05:05 PM
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Thats you uncharitable interpretation to gaslight the issue. We are talking a bout a societal rule, not about ''whos fault is it''. Who are we blaming for that? Gynocentric society, both males and females whom support it. Has nothing to do with chromosomes. And we are not like feminists naming the phenomena in a passive agressive way such as ''toxic meanie womanly emotionality'' or something like feminsit do with terms such as ''toxic masculinity'', so theres no simmetry here.
/r/MensRights23/04/22 04:56 PM
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Against intersectionality: * The variables are infinite, chosing specific variables like gender or sexuality or race leave out the other infinite variables that affect an individuals life, it doesnt matter how many more you add in, theres always more, and any and all of those variables wich are not yet added to the interesectional pool are being discriminated against by the intersectional system itself. In other words, intersectionalism pushed to the infinite becomes individualism (wich doesnt n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/22 08:42 PM
4

Produ MGTOW right here :)
/r/MensRights21/04/22 04:19 PM
2

I support the intention of the poll but i think it needs better wording. No =/= sometimes.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 04:01 PM
1

Interesting i agree with it being their demonstrable intention of course. Do you know of any examples of feminist using the term humanism to define themselves? i would like to see that I can imagine marxist-types using the word egalitarianism for their equality of outcome purposes, but is hard for me to imagine the word humanism being used for that. Although it does make sense, egalitarian being an in-group term while humanism being a global term, i like the way you are expressing these ideas.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 01:39 PM
1

Very interesting, what do you think is male feminists role in this?
/r/MensRights21/04/22 01:09 PM
3

Egalitarianism tends more towards equality of outcome while humanism tends more towards equality of opportunity.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 01:08 PM
8

''And I’m like how little does it take to ruin somebody’s a man's life?''
/r/MensRights21/04/22 11:20 AM
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''Sometimes, but only when convienient for women'' ''Sometimes, but women emotions have overruling priority''
/r/MensRights21/04/22 09:36 AM
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I believe r/askwomenocensor wont ban you although they have uptight rules about sex i would say give it a try.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 09:31 AM
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Realize that your attention is your private property and they need to earn access to it. They are steping over you because you are giving away your attention like it is free (because you were taught to do it). A man giving away his attention for fere is the equivalent of a woman givign her body away for free.
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 08:52 AM
24

Good luck :) Change the wording a bit so you dont get banned for copy pasta
/r/MensRights20/04/22 08:00 PM
11

It does matter, every time you call yourself a feminist you are supporting all the misandry they provoke on men, you like it or not, because they are the both mayority and the top of power of the movement while you are an outlier that cant even post this same post on r/feminism. I believe calling your self a feminsit casues 10 times more damage than it helps. But dont take it personally you do seem to have genuine good intentions to me.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 02:25 PM
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If it just a word, and it is such a hassle and conflict inducer to use that irrelevant word, then why wouldnt you then just use another word? Why cant you just be a womens rights advocate. WRA
/r/MensRights20/04/22 02:14 PM
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I use the word ignorant for its literal meaning, i dont mean for it to be an insult, sorry for that. (if thats the insult you are refering to)
/r/MensRights20/04/22 02:10 PM
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I completly agree with you with sexism being the enemy. But i reject and challenge your claim that those are not the real feminists, to my view, feminism is a sexist movement and you are a naive outlier that should go through the 7 states of grief and accept that the feminist movement that once was no longer is. Sexists dominate and lead feminism now.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 02:03 PM
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She is either pretending or ignorant, like you are, that there is a simetry where there is none. Im showing powerful people and institutions that carry the feminist flag doing actual empirical sexist harm to men, and you are equating that with we allowing free speech discussion with the sexism on our side. The twitter #killallmen femcels existing in droves go without saying.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 01:56 PM
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They do represent you, those crazy dominate your movement at the top in the entertinement bussiness, the educational system, the legal courts, social media, goverments and international organizations like the UN, the WHO and so on. Heres some examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJyQpRfaGnw&ab_channel=GregGraham https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRWUsn4yyJI&ab_channel=DailyMail https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+international+man+day+2021&atb=v263-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%…
/r/MensRights20/04/22 01:21 PM
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Now go and post this same thing in r/Feminism lets see how it gets received.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 01:09 PM
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