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Lol
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 04:46 AM
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That very real thing that happened is called 'medical malpractice'. Health professionals are not allowed to offer treatment for diagnoses that are not backed by scientific evidence. Further, whatever 'violating' means, that's advising people to commit crimes, which is another crime. So I'm not saying your lying. I'm just saying a medical professional risked his job and a jail sentence casually so you could overhear it.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 04:46 AM
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Ah. You're right. I remember at the start of my journey where I lied about the professionals treating me and was dissatisfied with literally the only two ways the professional can help. Oh wait, no I didn't.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 04:27 AM
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You could. And 60/40 is not 'overwhelmingly' anything. Now type 'professional cleaners by gender USA' and see an actually overwhelming number. Do you see how this doesn't matter to you? That facts don't matter?
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 02:49 AM
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You made that up, not that it matters, there's literally no difference too petty that you won't use it as an excuse to hate women.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 02:43 AM
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So they clean shit out of toilets for minimum wage but won't earn your respect until they wash windows?
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 02:38 AM
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Ok. There is no way on this earth a mental health professional would tell you that there's a deadline for virginity. That is a massive, obvious lie. The next but is probably true though, offering to help you become more sociable to alleviate the loneliness or help you to be happy in self imposed isolation sounds like literally the only 2 ways you can go. What is this moron lying and whining about?
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 02:35 AM
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They literally clean shit out of toilets for a beggar's wage. You're inventing things to be mad at.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 02:28 AM
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How dare they show a preference for comfortable, well paid positions!
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 02:22 AM
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Haha you're like a little kid where the only things that exist are the things in your orbit. Like I served in the military, and the women I worked with were not in air conditioned offices. Almost like 4 billion people are hard to generalise!
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 02:04 AM
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Wow. Almost like they were institutionally discouraged from those jobs and now there's more of them!
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:57 AM
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Yep money really seems to have bought you happiness lol
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:50 AM
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I work in banking and finance. They are given bs roles that are not needed and then they get free holidays when they shit out kids. Lol I am not talking about my field. There are next to no female plumbers, builders, miners, truck drivers, sanitation workers etc. Essential jobs which females think are beneath them and never campaign for “equal representation” in I guess you've never even visited a blue collar job union website. There is a massive push for female representation in these fields. I…
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:49 AM
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Lol I am absolutely unsurprised you are not working or educated.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:33 AM
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In matriarchies like the Mosuo, children are raised by women and their kin. The women do all the work. The men chill all day The best bit about these subs is if an idiot alludes to a source or provides it, you will win the argument simply by reading it. For example what you say about the Mosuo is true, but you neglected that men build houses, slaughter animals, and are prominent child-rearers for female relatives. They are also constantly cucked, with the father of a a Mosuo baby often not known…
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:32 AM
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What profession are you in that has left you of the opinion that women aren't capable of working effectively?
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:29 AM
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Yes and that's how you know it's good. If it makes them angry, you're right. Children develop beyond this stage of disagreement by about 6 years old by the way.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:18 AM
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Lol. Your science was very good.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 01:06 AM
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Wow! So you're miserable, then you fuck, then you're happy, then you're married, then you live longer! It all makes so much sense if you're a child with a learning disability!
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:58 AM
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Sorry you must be looking for the married men live longer thread. This is the 'you'll still be miserable and without worth even if you do have sex' thread.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:49 AM
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Neither do I, since it's exactly what I posted.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:48 AM
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Lol. I love the communism is going to come about because the government didn't give losers enough women to fuck so they'd go to work.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:47 AM
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No chance of that happening. Red pill dipshits are extremely right wing by and large. They'll pull themselves up by their bootstraps and make something of themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:38 AM
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This is fucking incredible. You completely missed the entire point of my post, and then re-wrote my first paragraph in a different order to sign off your own post. Incredible. Look at this shit: Life can suck and not suck, girlfriend or no girlfriend. However, sex doesn't magically fix everything. It's like saying love is all you need. It's delusional to some extent. Now read this. Life would be great if only you had a pretty partner all to yourself to fuck when you want and never disagrees with…
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:37 AM
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Yeah, black people had it pretty fucking rough after slavery ended too but at least they weren't property. And there's no gender wars dipshit. The vast majority of us get along so well we get naked and have sex. You fringe losers and your violent fantasies are irrelevant and pathetic.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:32 AM
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Well leave aside happy or whatever Literally, literally my entire point was about happiness and how this is the wrong tree to bark up if you're at all interested in experiencing this concept. Especially since you're imagining the glory days of fucking 60 years ago where women were so depressed they were all bsrbituate and benzo addicts and just as soon as they could get the fuck away from their husband's they did.
/r/AllPillDebate18/12/22 12:26 AM
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This might be my best post yet. None of you have an answer for it that isn't absolute gibberish.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 05:51 PM
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Oh wow the chance to learn from a real master. Self improvement is a meme? Well obviously that's hyperbole since you probably don't shit and piss yourself like an infant, but when is the cut off where everything is decided and you can't change it?
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 05:15 PM
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Ah yes. Gaming lobbies. Where anonymous 14 year olds practice racial slurs. Of course this is the ultimate thunder dome in your mind.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 04:34 PM
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Er, yeah, going from 'I'm a proud bully and very scary' to 'actually I'm a mewling pussy with no prospect of a life anyone would be proud of' in the space of a few posts is genuinely riveting stuff.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 04:02 PM
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Yeah I've got no words. An absolute failure with women, a self-confessed bully, and acts so fucking pathetic in the face of mild criticism that I don't have words for the type of pathetic that you have achieved.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 03:52 PM
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If you consider what I said to you bullying, then I assure you that not only are you not a bully, your the biggest mewling pussy on earth. Embarrassing.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 03:48 PM
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I take pride in bullying people tho Nah, you take pride in the idea of bullying people. Or doing it online. Like a coward.
/r/AllPillDebate17/12/22 12:08 AM
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A great one for this series would be demetrious 'mighty mouse' Johnson. He's 5'3, black, and bald. He married his wife when he was working full time in a warehouse. He's also a mma champion, but when he won the ufc belt he got paid 23k for the fight (after taxes and paying trainers he got about 13k) and didn't make enough to stop working full time in a warehouse until after that fight. She married him when he was a broke warehouse worker doing a sport widely considered to be a joke at that point…
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 04:59 AM
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Lol. Lmao.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 03:14 AM
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This is a troll. In the early 90s an American soldier was captured in a country he wasn't supposed to be in and because the us government couldn't claim him, he was held for 12 years. During those years, he was forced to watch cuckold porn featuring black men and white women. Up to 23 hours a day. 12 years later he is returned home and the OP is an exact transcript of his debrief.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 02:20 AM
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You're here too. Giving out absolute gold for free.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 01:58 AM
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Lol. They fear me. Perfect.
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 01:56 AM
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Omg. Is this real? Did you write a book? Is that entire website yours? Can I have your permission to make fun of you and your ideas and post them to YouTube?
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 01:55 AM
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Lol yeah absolutely no way you could get all those matches with different pictures and then change the picture and show morons like you
/r/AllPillDebate16/12/22 01:23 AM
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Lol I am literally not capable of changing the mind of someone that thinks a 70byear old grandma is more sexually sought after than 90% of men. You cannot teach people this fucking stupid.
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 01:28 PM
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You would have to be a fucking idiot with the ability to think critically of a small house plant to not see why the whole premise of this video is flawed and embarrassing. But you don't even need to watch the dog shit video. You can just read the title and know for a fact that it's bullshit. If you believed this, even for a second, you are not attached to reality. This is not hyperbole. You are mentally unwell.
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 12:38 PM
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I've had more sex than 99% of people who are not professional porn stars and I'm still a kind and decent person because that is the right way to treat people. I don't fake aspects of my personality to get laid and people who do are losers.
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 12:32 PM
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Fragile, adjective: people who don't put up with bullshit from losers in pursuit of terrible sex from possibly dangerous weirdos.
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 03:33 AM
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Lol the decadent and entitled women of 1913 have gone too far! Anti-feminism would be really, really funny if it wasn't harmful but luckily is really, really pathetic.
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 02:48 AM
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Your confusing kindness with being a door mat. Kindness does not ruin lives.
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 02:20 AM
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I'm kind and considerate because that's how I believe in treating people. How people react to that is up to them and doesn't affect how I choose to live.
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 01:18 AM
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Very true. Successfully navigating neurodivergence or mental health issues requires work and dedication. Why do that when you can leave it unaddressed and just blame it for your problems?
/r/AllPillDebate15/12/22 12:40 AM
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I would like to unsubscribe to worthless fact of the day bot
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 01:51 PM
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Imagine asking a biologist what makes women specifically monsters when the only difference between the sexes is usually the hormone wash in the endocrine system in the womb. Your outlook is insane and facts are unlikely to fix it. I suggest listening to women. Not rage bait fringe psychos, just normal women on YouTube and just listen. They are normal people. As capable of being good or terrible as any man.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 08:38 AM
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You think what you quoted is me saying that nice is an objective adjective and I'm uniquely suited to giving the label, you are a fucking idiot.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 06:37 AM
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Quote where I said that and I'll admit to it, call myself a cuck, and beg your forgiveness. If you find you can't because you're a moron that can't understand words, slink away and embarrass yourself elsewhere.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:51 AM
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Wow. There's people on these subs that I can see just need to be pointed in the right direction and they'd live happy and fulfilling lives. I couldn't imagine a woman on earth tolerating an exchange this fucking stupid. You're special.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:29 AM
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If you are nice why shouldn’t you be able to call yourself nice? It's being a piece of shit and calling yourself 'nice' that women consider a joke.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:23 AM
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Cool, name one and I'll grovel for forgiveness.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:21 AM
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Where all the peer review literature is catalogued? Good advice brain genius.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:12 AM
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Give me a single example of a peer reviewed paper that does not show up on google scholar. And lol at you not knowing how to access full articles for free.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:11 AM
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Being kind and decent is valued and respected. It's being a piece of shit and calling yourself 'nice' that women consider a joke.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:09 AM
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I've got a title for your thesis 'How the fuck I got here thinking google scholar was illegitimate, lol'
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:06 AM
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Lol Google scholar gives abstracts for free and with a quick google search a website will bring up the entire, peer reviewed paper at no cost. So thank you for publicly admitting that you think Google scholar is somehow misinformation, and not knowing how to use Google.
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 05:05 AM
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I myself am not nice, but I think people perceive me to be, which I hate. Lol are you ashamed of being a decent person?
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 02:40 AM
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Yeah it definitely seems like the majority are absolute dickheads but they all pretend to be confused that being a piece of shit makes it hard to get girls to like them which is weird
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 02:39 AM
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You wouldn't, because you're a moron who doesn't understand the entire subject he's currently attempting to discuss. It was published in The Lancet, a medical journal so reputed and famous even your stupid ass may have heard of it. The published study contained lies, massive conflict of interest, and even the literal torture of children. It was redacted by the lancet when his peers started looking into those lies. Science prevailed, but there is no way of an independent board to assess every asp…
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 11:14 PM
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In your example, for adult men who are sexually attracted to adolescent girls yes it is more important.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 11:02 PM
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Lol you should definitely look up that totally professional journal. Not that it would matter anyway when you look at where the vaccines cause autism paper was published. Your really small brain cannot figure out why your sad little prank story has no significance.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 10:57 PM
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Your high school le epic prank story is such a fucking sad attempt to discredit science you should be embarrassed.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 10:38 PM
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Lol here comes the pedantry. Listen dipshit, peer review boards for publication CAN NOT TELL if you made up every stat you submit for publication. See: vaccines cause autism. It is literally impossible. The information does not become true when published. The academic process begins at publication, it does not conclude. Sorry your epic own story for that other mewling dipshit who thought he was clever. Bullshit gets found out in science.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 10:29 PM
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It is reviewed and replicated by your peers AFTER it's published as well you brain genius. Another team doesn't try and replicate your results to make sure you're not lying to publish. That would be a massive waste of time.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 10:06 PM
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Wow, I really learned a lot from these emotionally immature adults attempting to navigate long term intimate relationships and failing hilariously.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 09:58 PM
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Lol I'm sure you do.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 09:55 PM
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The original vaccines cause autism paper was published in a prestigious medical journal. You can make up your results and publish them. However when they're peer reviewed, your peers try and replicate your work, exposing you as a worthless piece of shit. That's the value of peer review you idiot.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 09:55 PM
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Lol ok
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 06:52 PM
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Yeah, like all peer reviewed science. I assume you mean that and not shit related to being a loser.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 06:51 PM
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Never said they were wrong, I said they exist on a hyper partisan page editorialised by fundamentally anti science losers and I noted where to find real information for the people who like to be right. I'm comfortable with that.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 06:50 PM
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Yeah definitely, in college movies from the 80s
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 06:43 PM
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Yes. But it is nearly impossible to convince black pill enthusiasts of this because it is so obliviously an embarrassing, anti science and fucking stupid position that they're too embarrassed to admit it. So they use every fallacy and move the fuck out of the goalposts forever until you give up. Because they are fucking idiots.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 06:42 PM
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Well done, then it lists some legit studies on a hyper partisan shit hole. When you could go straight to Google scholar and research there.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 06:40 PM
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It’s not in my interest to try and Google research that I’m already convinced doesn’t exist. If you do not have a humiliation fetish then I don't even know what the fuck. You seem to think it would hurt me for you to admit out loud that you think the foremost research into attraction and dating is on a black pill subreddit. You are a joke. I am so sorry. But lol.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 06:18 PM
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Because they are the ones who don't find your unchangeable bones arousing! If they weren't so superficial you'd be just find! If you didn't blame women, you wouldn't be here. You'd just be living life as well as you can with your handicap. But posting here? That indicates that someone has to pay. And it's either you or women.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:55 PM
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This is such a fucking stupid question it is genuinely shocking to me that you pretended you knew what you were talking about even in a place as stupid and credulous as here. There are thousands of journal articles that fit under the banner of what you just asked. Not joking. Also, biases and conflicts of interest very rarely actually happen, because it's bad fucking science to have these, but they have to put in writing that they have considered this angle. It's down the bottom of the paper. Go…
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:43 PM
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I don't. At all. I care about you blaming women because you're a complete fuck up.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:30 PM
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Lol your attempt to understand budget allocation, and accusing my statement of fact as pedantic is hilarious in ways you did not intend.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:29 PM
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Lol and what we have here is the 'bad boy wannabe' variant that has very strong ideas about what women really want, zero girlfriends, and an unwillingness to test their theory out in the field because they know deep down that acting like a prick will get your face punched.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:26 PM
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Academic standards require certain formatting and submissions for peer review and further study. Dog shit idiot standards for losers do not. So if they are legit, they'll be found on scholar, along with all the papers that disagree with it. Tell me, how many papers that disagree with each other do you find on your little website that makes you feel smart?
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:24 PM
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Hahaha couldn't have said it better myself. Women blackpilled those poor men! Nothing to do with their lazy social decisions! God damn it no wonder nobody - male or female - respects the manosphere.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:19 PM
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Thanks, the ones that are legitimate are also on google scholar for free, as well as the tons of others that contradict the ones listed in that cute little wiki
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:13 PM
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Oh how embarrassing. Sorry your brain is making you look slow again. I only mentioned government sites as a possible location of accurate scientific evidence. Nothing more. However, the government spent 700 billion on scientific research in 2020 so you were also embarrassing and wrong that way too.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:09 PM
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No I prefer Google scholar to get peer reviewed journals and books written with an academic lens and any biases or conflicts of interest openly stated. I don't need that embarrassing shit hole to tell me everything they believe is wrong.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:05 PM
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Really? How do you think my life will benefit from obsessing over the bones in my face to the point where I do nothing with my cosmic miracle of an existence and die alone?
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:01 PM
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Hahaha imagine implying that I think academic tests are performed on government websites instead of reported on them. That is how weak and mewling your argument has become.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 05:00 PM
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I know, it's why you sound embarrassing and why if I agreed with you about anything I'd immediately look for the flaws in my logic. Imagine complaining about women while being this fucking lazy and stupid. Ugh.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:56 PM
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Because I don't have a neurotic brain making me do face bone maths to see if women will fuck me because that is insane.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:54 PM
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Ah. Star wars.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:53 PM
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This is a perfect example of being fundamentally anti-science. If you agreed with science, you wouldn't need subs with 24 subscribers to explain how actually black pill is science. It would be on government websites. You are fringe lunatics pretending to be rational.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:52 PM
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You also fell into my trap of not even getting to the point where I said specifically that 'nice' means nothing so it was all pointless. Nice of you to let me know that you got really fucking angry at your brain being unable to parse my post.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:49 PM
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What was the story? Was it a tragic tale of all women acting like they were written by Tommy Wisseau specifically to torment the poor man? Did everyone feel sorry for him. Did they clap?
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:38 PM
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This saying that is baffling you is so massively widespread that it has a Wikipedia page. wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:28 PM
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Ah yes your bone structure. Another thing you cannot help so you get to have a pity party. How lucky for you!
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:02 PM
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Yes, all the lies are transparent.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 04:01 PM
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One thing I've noticed in the manosphere is just how bad the lies are. Once you've had sex and spent many years interacting with a huge number of diverse peoples across different cultures, lies just stand out. For example in this video a group of guys fawning over a conventionally attractive man before asking him how cool his life is to which he gives a 'nothing personal kid' smirk and later admits to just the woman that he's a douchebag. It did not happen. This is embarrassing.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 03:28 PM
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Of course because it removes the blame from you. However deep down you know you're the problem and that's where the impotent anger comes from.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 03:21 PM
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Yeah man nothing says 'completely happy with life' than posting here about how good your life is to a collection of the saddest men on the planet.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 02:41 PM
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Yeah much smarter to doing absolutely nothing and seeking out echo chambers on reddit to tell me it's someone else's fault.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 02:33 PM
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Not saying it is, just that it's cowardly to talk incessantly about irrelevant shit because you're mad about being held accountable for a lifetime of lazy social decisions.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 02:32 PM
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Being such a sad fucking loser that I'm looking at other couples, rating them, and complaining about the results I decided on.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 02:16 PM
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Because it distracts from the real reason you are single and will die alone.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 02:14 PM
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Yeah, because if he didn't do something out of this world special, that would make me a massive fucking failure who should be ashamed of myself.
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 01:53 PM
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Ha. This is actually solid advice. It doesn't matter if you're the most hideous person with the worst personality, that is definitely someone's thing. Because human sexuality is hilarious. Unfortunately you need to be outside of your bedroom for these people to find you.
/r/AllPillDebate11/12/22 11:45 PM
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Nice joke missing genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:37 PM
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The only thing I've seen that makes people undateable are the people who are struggling to date and blame anyone but themselves. They will never get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:26 PM
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Lol. I want women to like me for who I am And by that I mean how old I am. As you can tell my brain can't maintain coherence for even a half dozen sentences. Probably don't listen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:22 PM
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Can't wait to go have coffee with a fucking douchebag who feels entitled to my weaknesses and flaws. Love having normal human interactions like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:44 PM
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There are literally no stakes here. Nobody cares if a single guy dances with a group of women at a Christmas party.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:41 PM
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Actuality humans are terrible at self assessment. Dunning and Kruger did this whole thing where they proved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:10 PM
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If they are so widely circulated, seems it would be easier to just link the original study. It never is though because if you actually read it you realise how embarrassing it is to piss your pants about this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:03 PM
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No, the evidence would be linking those studies in their entirity, not cutting out the bits they find convenient. Anything removed from context is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:52 PM
6

Sort of. If one moron says something stupid, it is empirically true that he thinks that. But that 'empirical evidence' is worthless. Good try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:32 PM
7

It's weird how you keep replying to me but arguing against someone else. Don't believe me? Well you see I have never written this: You’re trying to play “schrodinger's evidence” (“it only counts when I say it counts”) Go ahead. Copy and paste where I said that. Or this: And who are you to say your input is more valid than unbiased professionals who did the research… Literally never said this. You're arguing with someone who is not me. Stop replying to me until you are rebutting the things I actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:25 AM
9

It's not the hosting site that disqualifies the evidence as worthless, it's the removal from its context. For a graph to be worth anything, you need to know how the data was collected, what was controlled for, who collected this data, and a discussion on the actual meaning of the data as discerned by someone qualified to interpret that type of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:53 AM
10

Your very scientific brain is currently taunting me to prove a negative, calling a quora answer and a graph from Twitter 'evidence', and typing a lot of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:37 AM
6

I never said what you provided was empirical evidence. Because what you provided is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 10:20 AM
1

I didn't say it didn't put me in a position to get laid. I said it was in no way necessary.
/r/AllPillDebate11/12/22 10:19 AM
8

You're absolutely right. It's almost like there's more to a relationship than how attractive other people think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:26 AM
9

Yeah that's cool I don't expect you to understand why your examples of empiricism are an embarrassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:24 AM
-2

I guess it's how you carry yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate11/12/22 09:10 AM
15

I was expecting something like this but I didn't expect an anonymous answer on qora and a completely context-less graph on twitter to be your most convinving displays of empirical evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:09 AM
7

I absolutely do not care what you do or why, but I would have opinions about one of my friends who was this fucking vapid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:04 AM
11

The more I think about this the more incoherent it gets. Trying to analyse relationship happiness based on comparative 'value' doesn't understand happiness or value or even how people interact on a fundamental level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:03 AM
17

You either don't know what empirical evidence is or cannot parse academic literature if you believe that to be the case. Happy to be proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:58 AM
-1

Wrong. Men respect me without knowing anything about me.
/r/AllPillDebate11/12/22 08:56 AM
2

I am aware of those concepts and genuinely baffled at how they might be applicable here.
/r/AllPillDebate11/12/22 07:02 AM
21

I wonder how far I'd have to scroll to see a red pill post based off empirical evidence at the macro level and not worthless anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:58 AM
2

Me? A whole lot. I tried a lot of things in pursuit of 'being a man' and getting dates. Learned to fight, went to the gym, worked as a bouncer, served in the military, went to jail, survived homelessness and much, much more. Turns out, I didn't need to do any of that. Life is strange.
/r/AllPillDebate11/12/22 05:03 AM
1

I'm emailing this to every RPG maker on earth. No more speech checks. Of course socialising is a skill. It is not a massive coincidence that loneliness is the only detectable tone in 98% of posts here that isn't sexual frustration. I was still arguably way more socially in tune than so many people of both genders Big call. How do you measure this? I'd like some insight into how socialising is not a skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:33 AM
–

To conclude, all men will want a 10,but the law of numbers means the vast majority will have to settle getting as close as they can. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:34 AM
6

This is the correct answer. The overwhelming amount of data on married couples shows that people tend to marry within their 'class'. Yes, late stage capitalism will fuck dating up, but it will be fucking just as many women and as much as you want your conspiracy to be true that they will all just fuck and marry the top 20% it will not happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:30 AM
3

congratulations on your skeptical outlook. i was fortunate enough to actually read the study this bullshit came from. basically women were asked on a scale of 1 (totally cool!) to 6 (fuck that, fuck you) how appropriate a person's actions were. when accounting for 'good looks', the ugmos got rated a 5.2 on avg, and the chad's got a 4.8. that's right. regardless of looks the behaviour was absolutely unacceptable, and good looks excused none of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:55 AM
5

excellent work. well done. unfortunately, 'i got there but it was really, really, really fucking hard that required real, actual change' isn't what people here want to hear. they want the konami code for pussy and keep getting angrier at it's non-existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:41 AM
1

this is literally absurd. if you scripted this and filmed it it would be comedy. if you think adult women are proud of / impressed by a man who measures 6ft without his shoes on or whatever you are detached from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:35 AM
2

Because if you interact with women in real life, the insanity written there is obvious for being on the extreme fringe of the extreme fringe of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:50 PM
1

Weird quote to use. Curious, and like you always should in these subs, I read where that quote came from. It was about courtesans, women expected to put out. And still the book suggests that they make sure the guy isn't worthless before they fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 09:40 PM
1

Quite a turn around from never existing. All the way to ender of the universe. Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:20 PM
0

.... You know that there is just.... So much human history of humans living in little tribes or communes and operating and surviving in a symbiotic relationship with the land?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:50 PM
6

I googled that 'popular saying' and the first google result is a massive embarrassment called roolo and he looks easily pathetic enough to have coined such a stupid phrase so your story check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:38 PM
-1

Yes. You can actually go to Google scholar and restrict results to time periods. They absolutely exist, but they constantly shit all over the echo chamber formed in subs like these so they have to removed from context or straight up lied about. Also, presenting better evidence to the contrary of these 'findings' will cause the incel to reject the academic findings because they are no longer convenient to the pity party making the whole endeavour pointless. Reactionary positions are fundamentally…
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 03:29 PM
3

I'd point out that it's all just the guessing of profoundly unsuccessful men being used to host a small pity party where you all assure each other that it is the things you can't change that are most important so you can feel good continuing to make lazy social decisions.
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 03:25 PM
3

It is the most perfect example of people who 'do their own research'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:09 AM
1

Unless we start getting attention, we're not going to do anything. If you ever call anything or anyone entitled a black hole of irony will consume earth. Also, good, continue to never do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:06 AM
5

The fact that you think fds is representative of anything tells everyone that you are disconnected from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:04 AM
1

What do you think a stay at home dad means if it can be done without any self sufficiency?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:02 AM
5

You're not missing out on shit. I maybe remember the faces of 10 women I've slept with. The rest aren't even memories for me. May as well not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:05 AM
10

no, it doesn't, but feel free to prove me wrong in any way you feel you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:23 AM
4

interesting theory and generally speaking i'd say it's pretty correct but the most convincing academic literature i've read on the subject says that women are attracted to whatever it is that they perceive gives them the best chance of survival. that might seem a bit wild at first but if you go look at the other thread about the tinder results of the unattractive white man in the phillipines and contrast that with what his tinder would look like in, say, hollywood.
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 03:22 AM
14

as far as i've been able to tell, and my experience is extensive, there is no correlation between body count and the worth / value / morality of an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:16 AM
10

yeah the middle ground is staying the fuck out of other people's relationships and minding your business in my experience. i only have to worry about what is happening in my household and bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:50 AM
1

There are all kinds of manipulations they do in order to promote politically correct relationships which have a much higher rate of failure. please explain all of this because in my reality this is insane gibberish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:49 AM
1

Lol yeah I bet you're very popular and cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:36 AM
1

Lol yeah guess I just didn't put enough points in charisma to get the genocidal dictator love confessions ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:32 AM
2

lol yeah i can't count the number of women who tell general company that they love mass murderers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 06:58 AM
1

you're right, because anyone who would need it debunked is literally detached from reality and that's beyond my skill as a reddit poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:48 AM
2

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:47 AM
0

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:46 AM
1

lol yes of course i was
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:46 AM
0

yeah you're right, fight club wasn't at all about affording decent men a base line level of respect. it's really sad that you can't even lie about being in a mid sized group of men at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:45 AM
3

Well, I can't argue with that. Because that would be weird it's just a guy singing for 4 minutes. I want to see a ppd talent show now. 'I don't know how anyone is going to top that series of haikus about how women are the devil, but the interpretative dance about how its strange that the advice of bitter losers whose defining quality is being bad with women doesn't yield results'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:57 PM
5

please show me literally any other example saying that or close to it. i made that up off the top of my head and would love to see people being that specifically close.
/r/AllPillDebate27/11/22 11:41 PM
-2

I think the disproportionate response between the sexes regarding Nazi thetoric in Germany it's hilarious that the one vaguely interesting point in your little factoid was the fact that the sexes showed up equally for hitler. there was nothing disproportionate about it. fucked up your own stupid derail.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:40 PM
0

Yes like I say I respect that you're willing to have your ass repeatedly kicked and liked by nobody for your principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:06 PM
-4

Lol thank you for reiterating that populist rhetoric is effective on a population. Very progressive of you to count women among the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:04 PM
0

Congratulations on getting your ass kicked a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:25 PM
2

So a counter example would be, someone who is viewed as a big war criminal who wants to take over another country. That person would be admired by men and thus women too. Yeah man definitely. Can't count the amount of times me and the fellas were having a few and discussing how cool war criminals are and then the women would all jump in saying how they exclusively watch war crime videos in their spare time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:20 PM
-4

It's an absolute fantasy that you think crippling personality defects and a lifetime of lazy social decisions would get you more sex as a 6'5 Chad but unfortunately magic doesn't exist so I guess you can keep your fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:16 PM
1

hahaha at least you have the decency to not attempt to arouse them. partial credit for that at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:04 PM
1

No, they stop wanting to go out with you who spends his time sad that women aren't sleeping with him. The average person is capable of much longer lasting friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:15 PM
3

I'm literally saying I haven't made a point. My evidence for this is me not making a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:14 PM
1

It is staggering to me that your entire knowledge of the subject comes from an article clearly saying 'this thing we know works way better for female horniness isn't fda approved so we're settling on fucking with their t a bit and it shows some results' and you think it's even close to a primary source of sex drive. See? You should listen to me when I say date a woman that finds you attractive and you'll know for sure their testosterone has fuck all to do with being able to fuck that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:13 PM
2

What about seeing different genitals that changes a person's worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:09 PM
2

When I make a point I'll bck it up. Properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:48 PM
0

It is genuinely staggering you think testosterone works the same for male and female horniness. Incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:45 PM
0

Nobody is impressed about the number of people I've fucked. In living memory, nobody has ever asked me. No one cares. Great analogy though, at first I thought it was about feeling good when a disadvantaged kid succeeds, but then I realised that I was actually feeling good because now that one person has done it I can ignore the massive amount of data showing just how much of an anomaly such an achievement is and that makes me feel racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:33 PM
24

For real. It would take a truly unhinged woman to take even a small sampling of available men and judge any woman for saying 'nah, keep it'. If I had a choice between hearing 'meow' or 'divorce rape is way more damaging than real rape' every day I wouldn't even wait for the thinking music.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:27 PM
3

That was not a paper. That was a blog, written by a Mormon, and using misleading statistics in an obvious and insulting attempt to make his fucked up religion GOOD for women instead of the insane handmaids tale existence experienced in reality. You should be embarrassed to post that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:21 PM
0

No, you don't understand, they have researched it, they know how women get horny, testosterone has fuck all to do with it, and you're wrong. This is with existing, freely available information.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:19 PM
1

You are going to suggest replacing testosterone ina female endocrine system in an attempt to make them want to fuck more to adults, and I want to see that so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:09 PM
1

Yeah I thi k it's valuable to scrape together a few seconds to laugh ooe ly at lunatics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:04 PM
-6

Of course it isn't. It was unfair of me to assume something so unbelievably pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:03 PM
0

Hormone replacement therapy?! Holy fuck lol seriously just google it. You cannot go through life saying this. Adults are going to laugh at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:02 PM
2

Absolutely monumentally embarrassing blog where some Mormon dweeb shills for Mormon religion as being something other than a fucking nightmare for women and men who aren't paedophiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:01 PM
9

I don't even remember the faces of like 90-95% of the women I have slept with. I have de-valued sex so overtly and enthusiastically that I can't believe I wasn't being paid. As such, I fully encourage high n women that can suck a golf ball through a garden hose to to consider having sexual relations with me, which will not only be good because practice makes you good at stuff, but I also don't attribute your self worth to the number of genitals you've seen. I know it's going to be really hard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:55 PM
-2

I think meeting women in public is awesome. I think that complaining that they are in public with friends is the funniest shit I've read today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:48 PM
-4

No, dipshit, if you knew anything about how and when wome experience sexual arousal, you'd know that they have at least a baseline level of sexual desires on par with men and even exceeding them. You are doing the opposite of this because you believe testosterone is what governs libido in women, and I can't even begin to lol at something so fucking dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:43 PM
2

Time for some eye bleach! I recommend kitten videos, or re-reading that post where you post a link that says your hissy fits are destroying your relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:36 PM
-3

increasing female libido As someone who eclusivley dates women who are attracted to me, fuck you. Every single one of my long term relationships had the status quo where I could not out fuck any of them. My genitals contained friction abrasions at stages. Whether 22 years old, or actually old, the girls in my life have kept me at the absolute max. This isn't news to anyone who actually knows anything about how women are aroused and treat sex but I thought you should know how embarrassing your as…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:33 PM
-3

Wow it's almost like they have full, exciting lives where they can hang out with people who like them for reasons other than sex reasons and don't msrch around obviously public events with the sole goal of fucking something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:29 PM
4

Bars and clubs blow old out of the God damn water. If you have a good amount of social proof. Unfortunately, ask anyone here how their friendship circle looks and you'll get something between complete avoidance and a lie that a 5 year old would recognise as an incompetent lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:27 PM
2

There are women on ppd that think the red pill is good. You have to really claim some fucked up shit has been said before I'll doubt it. This is so made up it's like watching a 5 year old lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:22 PM
1

Sex genius invents 'the afterglow'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:20 PM
4

Yes but these subs say 'ree' in response to all self reported surveys, because they always say the absolute opposite to what they posit and it embarrasses them a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:19 PM
5

No, women will not choose some potential health benefits suggested by a single shitty study over the risk of pregnancy, violence, and sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:18 PM
8

It's actually pretty realistic. Some stem dudes literally look down on the social sciences and unironically believe that their anecdotal experience as an antisocial dipshit is easily sufficient to dismiss research from the social sciences. It's a hilarious blindspot and absolutely essential to exploit when opportunity permits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:16 PM
2

I apologise. The point was made after the first reply. There was no need to continue to point out that you did not read your own sources and due to that had formed opinions that your own sources were pointing and laughing at you for. It was inappropriate to think that further humiliation was even possible, let alone try. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:12 PM
2

Will you be divulging to future prospective women that you feel it is very important to indulge your baseless suspicion of their social media use that it has a high percentage chance of ruining your relationship badly and that it is smart and heterosexual to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:02 PM
2

no hang on, i think we're nearing a breakthrough, like it's your own fault that you repel women. this is big news for personal growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:49 PM
2

don't you think it's highly relevant that the fact that you are reacting like a hysterical lunatic and imposing draconian requests on your poor - and very real and existing - partners is actually destroying your relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:47 PM
1

lol Clayton posited that, for most, the correlation probably stems from jealousy and arguments about past partners related to social media snooping. the evidence you cite is telling you that your partner's social media use is fine, for them, it's your stupid ass thinking it's a problem that's the actual damage. good job, big brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:42 PM
1

i believe you'll find it's reason number 462.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:30 PM
2

if people hate something, and have no problem with not engaging with it on any level at the drop of the hat, and you're still holding it to the standard of a significant risk for infidelity which isn't even a legit reason for infidelity in couples that aren't anti-social weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:18 PM
1

'hey, you know that thing we both hate and don't really use? let's abandon this as a commitment to each other for the ages'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:44 PM
4

worked in a strip club as security. within 4 days the fact the girls were in their lingerie didn't even register in my brain because i knew them as people and i was working and had a job to do - keep them safe. the importance weirdos place on physical appearance is so fucking weird and a tacit admission of never, ever having had a deeper bond with a female non-family member.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:22 PM
1

Very sorry but this is just not possible. Despite the fact that I am a severely socially disabled computer toucher who hates women, I do feel entitled to have the high standards my life demands. But when a woman says 'I'd like it if he didn't touch computers so much or display his obvious hatred towards me, but as it stands I will naturally have to pass on this one' I also want to high five myself over the internet for women being such unrealistic animals. As such special consideration should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:14 PM
4

shit in the food she serves you and your dad hopefully
/r/AllPillDebate27/11/22 04:06 PM
5

hey, uh, seems great. you have maids. and your mother still... cooks and cleans? wow your dad must be flat out sexually exploiting his direct subordinates who rely on him for employment.
/r/AllPillDebate27/11/22 03:59 PM
3

So you should compare it to being asked to stop something you enjoy, like embarrassing yourself online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:18 PM
3

Well, no not really, because in the real world 90% of custody goes to the mother when both parties agree to this. When it is disputed men win 60% of the time. So saying what you suggested might be worse than real rape was stupid and embarrassing, saying that in the reality the rest of us are in actually comes across as really, really, really misogynistic and again just impossibly embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:15 PM
4

Cool speculating about your dad's love life and then making him seem like a massive, massive cuck who because he said words to a sex offender ina church he has to be miserable forever. You must be his favourite.
/r/AllPillDebate27/11/22 03:11 PM
2

Most guys live in reality where women are people and not comic strip characters written by a serial animal rapist from a penetentiary, so we don't really have this problem where women behave like insane people always, all the time.
/r/AllPillDebate27/11/22 03:09 PM
4

There are literally men in this thread saying 'divorce rape' is worse than actual rape. What evidence do you have for these people to not come to conclusions that publicly humiliate them constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:03 PM
-1

Or even been around a mid sized group of men apparently. If you don't give respect you will end up with a kicked ass. Holding women, who usually can't kick your ass, to a different standard it's so cowardly I almost can't believe it's being easily admitted to lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:01 PM
1

No that's an absolute lack of self respect. Sure, person I've known for a month, feel free to dictate your terms for my social engagement. I'll get right to following that demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:49 PM
8

Definitely don't listen to famous comedians tell stories about when they started out and how bad they bombed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:53 PM
16

It's a skill. Like most things it's easier done while still a child but there is no reason an adult can't learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:32 PM
1

Yep definitely.
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:06 PM
3

I am a little upset. You keep replying to me with pointless and tedious details and I am getting more and more obvious about my disdain for you.
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:55 PM
0

Cool.
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:49 PM
0

That's cool you're an adult.
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:44 PM
47

Not a woman, but fucking yes. Obviously.
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:37 PM
2

cool carry on
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:32 PM
2

do you think it's normal for a husband to ask to kiss a young co-worker and then his wife apologises to the co-worker and leaves amicably with her husband?
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:30 PM
5

By the reaction of his wife I'd say he was seeing if you were interested in joining them and both were keen.
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:18 PM
1

Hahaha
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 04:15 PM
1

Et al includes them.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 04:10 PM
3

Fuck you. Seek professional help.
/r/seduction30/10/22 03:53 PM
1

looking forward to your instructions for a bigger dick in my junk emails.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 03:02 PM
2

Sure it was, you just don't want to admit it because it's a massive insult to your masculinity.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 03:01 PM
2

Hahaha so normal people dont feel the need to state the obvious, but losers do? Good argument Einstein.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:54 PM
0

Hahaha yep
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:47 PM
-1

Absolutely did not read.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:41 PM
1

Hahaha memes posted through a veil of tears.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:30 PM
2

.... Yes. Definitely. Normal.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:26 PM
1

Lol again.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:25 PM
2

lol the defensiveness when confronted with reality is hilarious
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:15 PM
0

no. i'm not going to attempt to explain to someone who doesn't know why sample size is relevant to opinions why it's relevant.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:10 PM
-2

ah. never mind.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:08 PM
3

lol i thought immutable physical characteristics should go without saying but apparently i hadn't reckoned with a moron of your calibre.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:07 PM
-5

yes, you missed the bit about sample size.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 02:04 PM
2

Also a bunch of posts on body odor. Last time I checked heterosexual women are attracted to male smell you have no idea how telling it is that this is your logic. holy shit.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 01:56 PM
-3

no, i'm using a huge sample of normal men to contrast the opinions of small sample of very unsuccessful and bitter men.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 01:55 PM
5

and then expect the woman, like an audience in a theatre, to suspend her disbelief and play along until sex happens.
/r/seduction30/10/22 01:14 PM
2

if he's fucked more than 20 people why would he have a problem with it?
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 12:56 PM
1

"men"
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/22 12:55 PM
-2

Lol then you're mad at squiggles in a certain order on a page.
/r/seduction30/10/22 10:18 AM
-3

lol very angry at the tone i use to reply to posts
/r/seduction30/10/22 10:02 AM
1

I see why you feel this deserved its own post.
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:44 AM
1

Well if you ever want to go out and have fun you might have more luck finding people.
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:44 AM
9

Lol massive up votes for this type of thing.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:36 AM
1

Literally 99% of people know and believe this and deluding yourself that they don't is detached from reality. This pandering shit piece and the people who gobble it up are pathetic.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:27 AM
27

Hawley is a fucking embarrassment of a man and an article sucking his dick genuinely disgusts me.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 04:58 AM
5

She knows you want to fuck her. She does not want to fuck you. Work on that.
/r/seduction30/10/22 04:56 AM
1

Good fucking God this is embarrassing dog shit. I'm 14 and this is deep shit.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:14 AM
17

Angry? Yes. Hateful? No.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 01:31 AM
-73

Ok, answer me this. How has feminism directly caused you harm? Nobody who hates feminism can answer. The best I got was 'school is biased against me!' before I unearthed a quote from the 1860s that made him look fucking stupid. So feel free to try yourself, or any of the dipshits reading this. Edit: lol the big man blocked me. Here's your answer! E: Hahaha exactly! Think for yourselves! Except about the things you have no reason for hating! You're an embarrassment. E2: lmaoooo all the down votes…
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:42 AM
6

Wow. A farming country and a superpower getting annihilated by a farming country are not with the times. How infuriating.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 12:39 AM
1

Lol, you absolutely do know your worth as a man, because you're trying to date the type of woman you can lead instead of entering a partnership. Sounds like a scared 'man'.
/r/seduction30/10/22 12:32 AM
1

Lol
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/22 02:57 AM
0

Then you don't know what you're doing. That's not a diss. It's common. But you're trying to make a connection not try and make out like you're very clever.
/r/seduction27/10/22 07:51 AM
0

Every girl is different. Any advice you follow that works is pure coincidence. They don't have universal get horny now buttons as factory standard
/r/seduction26/10/22 09:41 AM
1

Lmao you're never going to be able to watch it again
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 09:06 AM
1

Lol I mean you could also just go and read about them endorsing this reading of the text but then it would ruin your favourite cool guy movie
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 09:02 AM
4

Hi how are you works for me. Not because it's the world's best line, but because I know when to say it.
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:58 AM
8

Hey dipshit, sounds like she really enjoys talking to you and not your impression of Don Juan / Brad Pitt From Fight Club so maybe just be yourself and if you're going to say something cute give it your best shot. Even if it's dorky as fuck if she likes you she'll find it endearing.
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:51 AM
2

Night clubs are great to hone your communication skills. The emotions you generate when communicating have startlingly little to do with the actual words said and a lot more to do with gestures, expressions, tone, body language etc. I'd look around for the people who are having the most fun if I were you. Sounds like they might have clues.
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:48 AM
0

Lmao watch this scene again thinking about a trans person's perspective if you're even capable of that. "what you know you can't explain, but you feel it" And then he offers neo two pills, the blue one representing the colour of a common antidepressant prescribed to trans people who can't transition, and the red one was the colour of estrogen pills at the time. Oh and the villain is the only one who uses his dead name, Mr Anderson, leading to the climax where neo demands he respect 'his' new nam…
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 08:36 AM
-2

Hahaha yeah dude definitely
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:11 AM
4

All of the women you insult are infinitely happier than you. They'll forget your bullshit when they get eyed up by another dude (maybe 6 seconds) and you'll be bragging to losers on reddit.
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:00 AM
0

No shit?!
/r/seduction26/10/22 07:18 AM
0

Absolutely possible with the right combination of confidence, status, and a willingness to put your dick in a girl who would leave her boyfriend in public for a fucking douchebag
/r/seduction26/10/22 07:07 AM
12

Dude, who gives a fuck what some losers on the internet think. It's your thing. Get about it.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:38 AM
-2

Lol I can't imagine being so defensive I have to pretend The Matrix doesn't exist.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 12:22 AM
-4

I cannot get over the absurdity of 'pill' culture. The God damn name is referencing a scene written and directed by two trans women where a black man tells a white computer programmer about reality.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 12:13 AM
5

Yes, please, I also want to put down women in public so they might fuck me any suggestions appreciated. I've been repeatedly screaming 'COCK CAROUSEL' at them to mixed success.
/r/seduction26/10/22 12:10 AM
1

Men suicide rates are higher than females and people never seem to understand why. Actually we know why it's because men attempt with more reliably lethal methods. Men and women attempt at roughly equal rates.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 08:39 PM
5

I've been one for a few decades so I have almost certainly received similar treatment to yourself.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 08:06 PM
5

I'm not the one who is refusing to answer a direct, relevant question to clarify his position.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 07:58 PM
1

I don't think anything is a death penalty crime, but thanks for your post.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 07:47 PM
4

That's cool dude reality will be here if you ever need it
/r/MensRights25/10/22 07:46 PM
0

What metric are you worried about? Because when I look at lists of people who are winning, he seems to be in with a better shot.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 07:32 PM
2

I have no idea what you are complaining about. Your post explicitly makes what follows as advice to rapists. Lonely men are not mentioned at all. The replies and your ban are absolutely justified.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 03:47 PM
1

The same reason that feminists no longer feel the need to talk about their right to vote. Society and feminism is moving on to more pressing concerns.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 03:27 PM
1

I don't know what the rest of your post means but I can answer this: How the differences in sex drives between the genders affects the sexual marketplace. There are no gendered differences in sex drives. There are differences in how they become aroused, and there is a lot of data that when analysed by someone who doesn't know that correlation does not equal causation can be interpreted as women having a lower sex drive. But it is just not fact.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 03:23 PM
2

Oh cool it's you. Your brain is extremely fucked up and is unable to parse simple sentences. I know because this: Did some woman once tell you that you were good in bed? Does not exist in my post. You made it up in your head. Your head makes you think about me being good at fucking.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 03:17 PM
5

Wow. It's almost like it's the stupidest fucking metric for worth ever devised and should never be talked about again.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 03:11 PM
0

Nearly all cultures for as long as history has been recorded disagree, but I really like the secondary offence to waster comments like these: cowardice.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/22 02:56 PM
1

lol i don't know how you managed it but i can hear your anxiety through your typed posts
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 04:06 AM
0

End of the day, any (reasonable, self respecting) man does not want his girl fucked by other dudes. yeah you definitely don't want any of them fucked by me because any attempt you make to sexually please her will be like a toddler with spina bifida attempting to stack a house of cards at a light jog.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:50 AM
1

lmao
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:26 AM
0

lol writing fanfic for my life so you can feel like your winning
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:25 AM
2

lol of course
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:20 AM
-4

no worries bro when you want to stop being an insecure mess of a human there will be people waiting to lend you a hand to join the rest of us.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:19 AM
-2

they are only desirable from the perspective of someone who is bad at sex and insecure about it so they need their partners to be as close to inexperienced as possible so they don't stop sex with you to laugh.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:18 AM
2

no, you didn't, i was making fun of how pathetic it was for you to start crying for sympathy when i called your stupid bullshit out.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:17 AM
2

nope, i stand by everything i say unlike you quivering weasels so go ahead and call me things you think will offend me while being not mad about being accurately described as a mewling pussy.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 02:11 AM
2

lol see ya later goalposts, this man has decided to be what is known as 'bitch made' and is really fine calling other people disgusting but the second someone slaps him around a bit over the internet he turns into a mewling pussy.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 01:59 AM
4

I'm not a virgin. He literally called me disgusting.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/22 01:37 AM
6

it's hard to help struggling men change in the right ways in order to forge interpersonal relationships as no two cases are the same. so it's really refreshing when you can just point at a guy and say 'you're a fucking horrible person, and people are right not to be around you'
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 11:50 PM
2

the only virgin i slept with was a virgin at 24. and it had no relevance on my relationship with her because she is not defined by the number of different genitals she has encountered. she is an awesome person, just like all the other girls i've dated seriously who had a wide spectrum of sexual experience before meeting me.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 10:59 PM
2

absolutely massive amounts. every culture values different traits to different degrees. anyone who has so much as been travelling will be able to tell you of some faux pas they'd committed. and intimate relationships are the most complex relationships we form as humans so the significance of cultural differences compound.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 09:34 PM
1

if you're concerned it is inhibiting your ability to learn and grow you might consider seeing a professional. if you're pretty sure you'll do better next time those things will hopefully fade a bit as you become confident in your ability to respond to situations in a way you're proud of.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 09:07 PM
1

nope. you were confronted with a new situation and panicked. welcome to being human.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 09:00 PM
1

don't stress it bro. if you'd have just not worried about sex, it would have happened at you. getting out of your own way is a skill. don't worry. you'll get there. and being an autist myself maybe i'll be able to say some things that make sense to you.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 08:37 PM
1

100 bro. reasonably functioning autistic / adhd dudes can be helped by some good internet advice but holy shit, there are people with severe social anxiety / depression that literally cannot be helped by an internet man or anything less than a practicing, qualified healthcare professional. it is absolutely something i plan to address. i want autistic et al dudes to feel included because they can absolutely still succeed they just need to get comfortable with themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 08:30 PM
2

that's more like it. much healthier take.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 06:58 PM
2

really good point. one of the most irritating things i see here is generalisations; 'yeah just say this to a chick it'll work' or any variation of 'all women think like this'. a working class woman in fiji is going to respond very differently than a working class woman in chicago, and racial experience is evidenced to be relevant. that said, i think you're being a little gloomy. these factors just need to be adjusted for and that's something you can control.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 06:45 PM
1

no of course not. despite your brain not working all the way correctly it has parked you in the right place so i'm ambivalent. i made fun of you because it will annoy and stick with you and eventually you'll realise that you're taking proud, strong stances about things you don't really know anything about and that's embarrassing. but it'll take time. you'll be embarrassing for a while.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 06:32 PM
0

i'm blue pill and i'm saying your generalisations and understandings are embarrassing.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 05:51 PM
1

no, it's because of communities like this one where these losers DO feel entitled to sex.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 05:37 PM
2

all those stupid fucking tips about 'don't respond to texts right away' or 'try and make her jealous' can go right in the fucking bin. those same dipshits will complain about women 'playing games' when they've been playing games the whole fucking time. absolute honesty and expecting the same in return will see you right.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 05:36 PM
1

lol your worldview borders on rational, but i will say it is amusing to see you eschew 'toxic masculinity' only to publicly denounce the blue pill because THAT'S not how you be a man! nah you're alright.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 05:34 PM
-1

it is dependent. women are not a monolith. some women highly value social status. some women could give a fuck. i used to hang out with an extremely famous football player. his missus fucking hated his 'status' as it stopped any sort of normality and was the primary source of endless stupid bullshit. i don't give a fuck about status. everyone is equal in my eyes and worthy of the respect accorded to all humans and i only ask for the same in return. i don't give a fuck about status and i'm doing …
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 05:31 PM
1

hahaha desperately trying to pretend 'kino' doesn't exist
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:36 PM
-1

no, it's about compensating for their inability.
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:24 PM
1

call them whatever you like, because mastering them gets rid of stupid shit like 'can i hold her hand yet?!'
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:24 PM
1

lol
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:23 PM
1

yes. clearly. or 'holding hands' wouldn't be a milestone.
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:22 PM
1

by jove! you are correct!
/r/seduction18/10/22 03:19 PM
-7

ah. your brain shut off because it got defensive. don't worry. brains do that to protect themselves. my entire post is about men not being able to read social cues, not the word kino.
/r/seduction18/10/22 03:18 PM
0

afraid? no. but i absolutely strive to treat others how i expect to be treated, and i do not tolerate anyone putting their hands on me without my consent.
/r/seduction18/10/22 03:17 PM
1

Charles manson or pimps or gangsters no status, no money er, criminals do have status and money dude. more than that though, they are assertive, capable, driven, charismatic, and a million other things. if you become a successful criminal, you will get women. but if you put that same effort into being a decent person you would also get women. but you're just fantasising about nonesense. you don't have it in you to get after violence. i can tell you that for certainty over reddit. and i am 100% s…
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:30 PM
1

i definitely think that men should learn to know when a woman wants to be touched before touching her.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:26 PM
-2

have you ever sat across from a woman at a table, or in any other situation where physical contact was not practical or physically possible and picked her up? how did you do it without the mighty kino? also, please recite a line or two that you use to tease women. please.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:24 PM
-1

i touch as a natural progression of intimacy between me and a partner. it happens when it is appropriate to happen. it's not a 'step' you do at a certain time with every girl.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:22 PM
-1

cool fanfic you wrote of my love life lol. i'll save it so i can read it again later.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:18 PM
12

i think there might be a decent guy under that thick layer of dickhead. i would text her and say it was cool to see her again and that's it. if she wants to hook up again i'd say that i appreciated the offer but i'm working on myself or whatever and just generally be chill but assertive.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:17 PM
-5

what? yes you should absolutely have made other bodily contact before kissing. you have misunderstood my posts badly.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:13 PM
22

is therapy possible / culturally accepted? it helps to have support. do not expect quick results. you've spent 8 years as an adult getting yourself to this point. i'd recommend not expecting to see results for 4 years. so put your head down until your 30, and do it all for you. because you want to be better.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:12 PM
-2

4 that were longer than 2 years.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:10 PM
-6

teasing is stupid dog shit for primary school children in my opinion. see how you said physical touch is 'powerful in building attraction'? no fucking shit lmao. yes you touch people you're attracted to and find you attractive in return. it absolutely goes completely without saying. the reason why you're saying it though is because you can't see the social cues. and you're trying very hard to convince yourself that that isn't a problem.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:06 PM
-9

No, not having the ability to recognise social cues doesn't make you a loser. Deciding to not fix it and rely totally on a crutch because of an extremely fragile disposition does make you a loser.
/r/seduction18/10/22 02:02 PM
-10

good luck being upset because you can't have things. also, tell your church's priest that your online username has a sex joke in it and you want forgiveness. then tell the girl you told the priest that while putting on sunglasses and lighting a cigarette.
/r/seduction18/10/22 01:54 PM
0

sure. if you're used to reasonable success it would be quite hard to experience women losing interest in you and knowing for a fact it's because you are boring to text with. a healthier outlook wouldn't say 'the time wasted on the phone', it would probably look something more like 'the time i spent developing a skill deficit'
/r/seduction18/10/22 01:52 PM
-6

Acting like you interest was never there in the first place. that is insanely, incredibly pathetic. 'haha i don't like you i was just pretending to for a joke'
/r/seduction18/10/22 01:48 PM
0

jesus christ lol you read that and wanted to read it more than once? respect.
/r/seduction18/10/22 01:05 PM
1

how would you know this?
/r/seduction18/10/22 12:57 PM
5

sure. in order to never run out of things to say, you have to be sincerely interested in what your partner is saying and genuinely curious to know more about her. if you get her to answer 'what are you studying / did you study', that question will open up literally infinite conversation if you respect her enough to really listen. hope you enjoyed.
/r/seduction18/10/22 12:55 PM
0

Beginners with no knowledge of theory did better. Just something to consider when your new. i will go further and posit that any 'theory' makes literally anybody worse at attracting women at any stage of experience. a lot of people have fired up their anecdote-typing fingers and started rattling off some very convincing evidence but it is correlation. the only thing that mattered was time spent talking to others and that is where all your success is coming from. the theory is literally all dog s…
/r/seduction18/10/22 12:53 PM
5

"Disdain things you cannot have" i think this might be the most pathetic thing i've ever read. i've looked a lot at many things that i had absolutely no desire to fuck. i have also looked to get away form things that i had absolutely no desire to fuck. basically i think she doesn't want anything to do with you in the romantic sense.
/r/seduction18/10/22 12:45 PM
1

you need to do a variety of things that you do not normally do. 19 year olds are basically children and not very attractive to most women interested in men. it sucks, but you'll age. for a shorter time in purgatory, start doing things. lots of things.
/r/seduction18/10/22 10:46 AM
-1

oh yeah that guy who was definitely but not provably a r*pist and provably guilty of sexual assault that got banned from several countries. yeah probably don't listen to those fucking psychos
/r/seduction18/10/22 10:43 AM
7

i was once a virgin. after a night at the club i was smoking weed at a gay girl's house after and the topic came up. i told the truth. she asked what was wrong with straight women and pity-fucked the virginity out of me.
/r/seduction18/10/22 10:42 AM
0

yeah. i think it's better to know what's attractive to women so they chase you rather than feeling them up at different intervals.
/r/seduction17/10/22 03:00 PM
3

You'd be losing a lot more chances then, or essentially playing the numbers game. A lot of push-pull lines are there just to grab the girls attention, so she's more interested in talking to you. That's a part of the game. And could you please stop with the name calling and have a civil discussion?
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:52 PM
1

nope. a rookie would just have to do what i say and actually say and do things that attract a woman instead of doing retarded shit like kino at them
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:46 PM
4

yeah. you fit as many of these categories as possible, tick enough boxes, and the girl will literally chase after you.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:40 PM
-15

talking to people of all ages and walks of life in as many different scenarios as possible. you need a genuine ability to read social situations and the experience to communicate with as many different types of people as possible to be as effective at communicating as possible. hitting on women should come last after hundreds of hours spent learning how to be a normal human around other humans.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:40 PM
1

i would rather wail on my dick and balls with a hammer than do anything that would get me closer to a person like you.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:38 PM
1

good. don't learn what kino is. because in this community it's basically 50/50 between doing something normal and doing sexual assault.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:37 PM
-31

lol good for you
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:36 PM
1

Your rant was about openers. Now you're talking about kino sorry dipshit, it said both. sorry you can't read. corny as fuck lines, weird steps but fucking hell dude don't immediately embarrass yourself with this But yes, kino is essential. lolllll How the hell you gonna put your penis in a women without touching her shhhh. i'll tell you. you make her.... touch you.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:35 PM
1

no. it is insulting when you put yourself out there and it is rejected. that hurts people. you don't date people who hurt you.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:33 PM
2

your still following those formulas with kino and all those other stupid fucking phrases and they're all stupid.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:31 PM
1

masculinity in tatters
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:30 PM
1

she escalates and i follow her lead until a kiss happens. just like you'd imagine with a guy leading, only this time it's the woman.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:30 PM
-5

in the supermarket harassment. bars and clubs is where normal people go to do this. psychopaths do grocery stores.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:28 PM
0

nope. losers all up in here saying kino is 'essential' and other such shit. nobody is learning anything about women on these outings and it shows because they are confused when they never message back on instagram.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:27 PM
11

this: your intelligence, financial stability, work ethic, how you relax, what your goals are, what your sense of humour is like, your social competence, your ability to handle yourself physically, your compassion and literally infinite numbers of other things. it is definitely not touching them
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:25 PM
-30

becoming desensitised to rejection and the discomfort of women while talking at women is basically worthless as an exercise to become socially competent.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:23 PM
1

i have literally never needed it.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:15 PM
-26

or they go to bars or other such places adults go to socialise in that particular way.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:10 PM
-1

i'll be making some youtube videos soon. yall will be able to see me. i wish i could in turn see your face as you realise you're losing all of your excuses for being failures.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:07 PM
-10

I recently saw a post where a guy said random women were making rude, judgmental comments about him as he was minding his own business in public. this is 'a lie'. it did not happen. also, your masculinity is innate and always working at full capacity and none of it counts on doing that body language dog shit. do not listen to any of this unless you want to fuck up in these areas.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:06 PM
0

yes it will sound like absolute magic to people who think touching women at intervals is optimal. you have no idea what women find attractive so it confuses you.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:03 PM
2

But she walked away after you said hello, how you gonna do that?
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:02 PM
-16

is it because you don't have any actually attractive characteristics to sell them on that you have to hope they like putting your hand on their waist?
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:00 PM
3

lol 'i can't beieve the men who are selling me strategies to get laid are selling me bad information because i am more valuable to them if i stay lonely and frustrated'
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:45 PM
2

So romantic interest is purely based on looks?
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:40 PM
-41

lol. i laugh really hard when cold approach enthusiasts start going out with a woman and they turn out to be fucking weird or crazy and start crying for support here. like a normal person, i'm looking at them thinking 'you picked them out at a fucking supermarket based on how much you wanted to fuck them. shocker she has some traits you didn't get around to recognising'
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:39 PM
2

can i ask what made you think this was a complicated question? is this your worst nightmare. do yo wake up sweating and screaming thinking of this? does someone not really wanting to talk to you make you very sad?
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:36 PM
-11

i personally think it's rampantly counter productive and actually makes the lonely loser form very fucked up ideas about interactions with women by the very nature of the cold approach. it is so fucking dumb. you're a socially retarded internet man (i know, big leap right) and you've decided you want to change that. you come to this shithole, get loaded up on a bunch of corny as fuck lines, weird steps, and told to stop being a bitch and get to using this trash on women. it fails badly. you are …
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:29 PM
4

Alright so let's say you're doing daygame, you went to the girl and said "hello" and surprisingly, she doesn't do all the heavy lifting and starts walking the fuck away, what do you do?
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:26 PM
1

you will eventually realise that machines get copped dinger whips get copped and so do bullets and stab vests.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 01:17 PM
11

it is culturally inappropriate to approach women you don't know in thailand. unless it's 'those' particular women at that particular place. it will be tolerated because you're a foreigner but let me know how your opener of 'i don't give a fuck about you or your culture' goes.
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:08 PM
1

the answer may surprise you, but you will understand why the jamaicans call me a hard-head / cah even when i'm on an island i'm still tryin to rise the machine and rass it.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 12:55 PM
6

no person who speaks to me is confused in any way as to my masculinity, so i don't feel the need to live up to made-up expectations of lonely and unsuccessful losers. funny that they don't want it so badly though. imagine how insanely attractive i must be to them to succeed.
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:45 PM
1

ladies and gentlemen, please flank the hallway as we drilled. he is now reaching into his jacket pocket and has produced a speech enclosed in an envelope carrying one word only: Ree
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 12:41 PM
9

my man. 100% agree.
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:36 PM
1

it's physical contact with your date. indistinguishable from sexual harrassment in a lot of cases posted here.
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:13 PM
-1

appreciate it. it's interesting having a useful knowledge base but suffering a variety of setbacks in communication. the community has a wide array of contradictory excuses locked and loaded so navigating them is difficult.
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:07 PM
-29

i put in lots of effort. i'm an attentive listener, and skilled talker. the only thing i'm not doing is advancing the relationship's intimacy. i am also old, fat, huge, and very scary looking.
/r/seduction17/10/22 11:54 AM
-19

Kino is the first thing that you will do after you approach a woman, you can not ignore it. i do
/r/seduction17/10/22 11:02 AM
-5

oh no!!
/r/seduction17/10/22 10:37 AM
4

personally i consider doing all the work on this a kind of simping, and i am dilligent in keeping my personal simping to an absolute minimum.
/r/seduction17/10/22 09:49 AM
-1

lol strong rebuttal
/r/seduction17/10/22 09:47 AM
-17

yeah it's hilariously unnecessary and pointless
/r/seduction17/10/22 09:47 AM
1

Nah. there are literal studies where women are directly observed sacrificing their expectations of a man's appearance in exchange for particular traits and qualities. My positions are based in reality, yours are not.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:43 AM
3

well mostly i was a number that was instructed to do a variety of deeply tedious and deeply unpleasant things until i was allowed to stop or i died. like all soldiers really.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:14 AM
2

that's nice. none of it is really strange to people who have already signed over the rights to every second of every day in any danger that may be required.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:11 AM
6

rape is not bought and sold. really normal thing to say.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 09:04 AM
4

i was in the military. i've already sold myself more completely and more disgracefully than any sex worker ever could.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 08:56 AM
1

here it comes. he's going to say 'ree'.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 08:54 AM
1

I assume you will say 'ree' soon.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 08:45 AM
1

Because I'm a terrible person who is improving.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 08:45 AM
1

already answered your brave question elsewhere
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 08:05 AM
1

can't stop laughing thinking about being genuinely surprised that someone genuinely believes in the positions they hold. "are YOU a terrible person??!?!?!" "yes. i worked to fix it" "i am going to respond to that by saying 'ree' and throwing a tantrum"
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 07:21 AM
1

no, it looks comical to me.
/r/seduction17/10/22 07:13 AM
-1

lol cool
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 07:08 AM
1

Is there any chance you are a terrible person? yes. i had to drastically change myself in just about every facet of my life. i am still growing. so yes, absolutely.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 07:08 AM
6

there are definitely women on earth who think along these lines, but i suspect it would not be many, and i would recommend wailing on your dick and balls with a hammer as opposed to dating a woman who thinks like this.
/r/seduction17/10/22 06:40 AM
-1

definitely. in a thread where a guy calls a certain type of person really pathetic and physically incapable of mounting an argument against him, it will look really, really good if the community's top answer is calling the op a 'twat' through tears.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 06:22 AM
15

wow! thanks op! this is the perfect guide to attract women who think and behave exactly like incel men think women do!
/r/seduction17/10/22 05:36 AM
7

i'd say among the most damaging advice given out in these subs is the generalisation of women. the second you stop thinking of them as a weird monolith and more like individuals the better your 'game' will be.
/r/seduction17/10/22 05:31 AM
7

this is fucking gross and embarrassing even for this place.
/r/seduction17/10/22 05:29 AM
32

this is really laughable in that i wouldn't even say it's true for a significant number of women. also this woman certainly types like a lonely, bitter guy. that's weird. lol EDIT: yeah lol 'beautiful girl' is definitely not a fucking incel playing make believe
/r/seduction17/10/22 05:28 AM
0

you are currently demonstrating being pleasant. and you're very good at it. but if they are not replying you were not attractive to them. every woman finds different things attractive to different degrees. it is your job to identify or correctly guess what those traits are and audition for the part.
/r/seduction17/10/22 05:26 AM
1

yes it was very good, but not for the reasons you intended.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 04:34 AM
1

lol you could not be proving my point any harder
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 04:33 AM
1

i'm not expecting you to change your mind. my op predicts that you will behave like this and your mind physically cannot be changed.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 04:32 AM
1

why yes, if you don't look at what someone wrote, but instead peer into their hearts, you'll find they actually said whatever is convenient for your broken brain to argue against!
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 04:30 AM
0

absolutely not what anyone is saying or implying. you made that up entirely in your brain and then refuted it.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 04:27 AM
-1

I typed all this up to respond to someone else who read this and decided to perfectly demonstrate another example of the brain being unable to function properly but he deleted it. But he really kicked my ass so you should read it. This is the defence mechanism I was talking about. Zero ability to think. I assume Literally no need to assume. My case is in black text on a contrasting background. Are people with autism terrible people? How about people who are ugly/deformed beyond remedy? People wi…
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 03:38 AM
2

now i have more evidence. you're eagerly replying to everything that isn't my suggestion. you are really obviously scared of it because it's true and you're to blame.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:43 AM
1

In this state, the pre-frontal cortices which we need for logic and reason is literally shut off and everything is routed through the amygdala for your fight / flight response.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 02:32 AM
1

excellent. people can choose not to like it, but on some level they will respect it.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 02:31 AM
1

besides it being literally the only reasonable conclusion to draw? no.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:31 AM
0

you are the only constant in 10 years of failure.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:20 AM
2

outstanding. a realisation such as this won't automatically make you more attractive, but it will stop you from throwing away your self respect by blaming everyone else.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/22 02:19 AM
2

have you eliminated the possibility that you might be a terrible person?
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:17 AM
5

many people were upvoting the thing you got mad at. it was the whole reason you got mad. that's why your brain is being embarrassing. you've even blocked this fact out of your head.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:13 AM
7

absolutely dude it's not you. it's everyone else that is wrong.
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:08 AM
1

cool by all means go for it but i will say that in my experience i am a fucking terrible mind reader so instead i just ask people things and it works really well
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:39 AM
3

have you considered just talking to her and telling her how you feel?
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:31 AM
2

you should probably work on being a guy that women want to be around.
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:26 AM
15

do you know why you're unable to understand why i'm being upvoted? because you are threatened. you feel attacked so your pre-frontal cortices stop working and all power goes to the amygdala for fight / flight. basically, you're having a really public hissy fit.
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:18 AM
1

hahaha
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:16 AM
2

u know how girls know if they wanna fuck u within the first 3 seconds of meeting u? do you really experience this? have you considered you might be a really shitty person?
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:07 AM
1

lol lesson number 1 kids, if your masculinity is threatened by the opinion of a very mad loser in the can't-pick-up-chicks subreddit then your masculinity never existed.
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:03 AM
6

er, yeah dude. totally.
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:50 PM
5

no i prefer to be correct.
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:38 PM
2

what? she's saying what she is prepared to do sexually.
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:33 PM
0

have you seriously used the advice in this video and it worked?
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:27 PM
9

what part of clearly stating her boundaries do you interpret as games?
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:26 PM
10

So what were you doing wrong?
/r/seduction16/10/22 10:40 PM
8

it may be hard to hear but later on you'll come to realise the importance of having people around who will tell you when you're acting like a penis.
/r/seduction16/10/22 10:38 PM
-1

flawless logic
/r/seduction16/10/22 10:25 PM
1

because they don't understand women, themselves, and interpersonal relationships.
/r/seduction16/10/22 10:21 PM
0

yep
/r/seduction16/10/22 10:19 PM
10

everything. the second you blame things outside of your control is the second you become unable to be helped.
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:34 PM
12

you have no idea how little i care whether you take your head out of your ass or cram it in further. i already said 'good luck'
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:21 PM
17

yeah and i tried to tell you that everything you said is wrong
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:16 PM
44

it has been a fucking long ass time since someone has claimed their perceptions are objective fact lmao
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:13 PM
36

I’m not judging. lol
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:09 PM
129

first of all, you're not mature for your age. your focus on school and deep conversations about how much better you are than your peers and are not achievements of any note nor are they worthy of any respect. if you ever get your head out of your own ass you may find a decent human companion. i will tell you right now though that no woman worth anything would hang around with someone who thinks like you do. good luck!
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:05 PM
-2

your 'game' is absolutely fucked if you touched a girl and she responds like that.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:25 PM
1

she knows you don't even know her name. how do you think she'll feel when you appear in the comments of her socials?
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:21 PM
-2

i leave them alone unless they want to dance with me and then i dance with them and that will end up however it's supposed to.
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:18 PM
55

i'll tell you a secret. an awful lot of guys here are fundamentally terrible people. 100% of guys who claim women don't like decent men are the absolute worst.
/r/seduction16/10/22 07:52 PM
7

no. this is creepy behaviour.
/r/seduction16/10/22 07:45 PM
1

lol you could have just said 'no, i made that up because my pride needs to believe it'
/r/seduction16/10/22 05:51 PM
68

if i'm going on a date with them it's because i like them and am interested in them. it would be weird not to talk to them.
/r/seduction16/10/22 05:44 PM
3

usually i just wait until they sexualise things. women are more than capable of going after what they want and i appreciate and accept that assist.
/r/seduction16/10/22 05:41 PM
1

you poor soul. i couldn't imagine trying to interact with the general public while sincerely thinking that 50% of men would turn into women if it was affordable and trendy. lol
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/22 05:38 PM
1

lol. credit to you for trying. most of you just scurry away because they genuinely don't know. unfortunately that probably means you genuinely thought you knew and had to find out this way you're an idiot.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 12:17 PM
4

so you if college age boys have 'hit a wall' that leads me to conclude that the most attractive people to you would be.... why don't you take a seat over there
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 11:12 AM
0

i'm happy you found some success. you are wildly misunderstanding absolutely everything about the correlation causation thing and how it relates to attractiveness, but it's not important unless you go to college.
/r/seduction14/10/22 09:42 AM
1

that's a lot of emojis for a fully grown man to use. nothing wrong with that of course.
/r/seduction14/10/22 09:39 AM
1

like, i appreciate that instead of just making up what i said you instead just chose to read it like an absolute fuckwit, but grow the fuck up and be a normal person that other normal people can respect. please?
/r/seduction14/10/22 08:51 AM
1

because your brain is broken, and normal humans don't need this to be added because they know that 'nothing' doesn't mean if 50 mafia men appeared with machine guns and opened fire at me. guess there was something outside of your control after all!? gloats the brain genius, smartly it's just an absolute assuredness that nothing that isn't far beyond a single person's ability and expectation to control is beyond your control.
/r/seduction14/10/22 08:50 AM
0

this question: What would your definition of confidence be if it isn’t gained through exposure and putting yourself out there? has absolutely nothing to do with this post: i assure you, confidence is different from tolerating discomfort. i'm not going to waste my time answering made up questions from lunatics.
/r/seduction14/10/22 08:34 AM
1

agreed. go to therapy.
/r/seduction14/10/22 06:56 AM
1

yeah, i'm standing behind it. i said it. unlike you i'm not going to move goalposts or start screaming about ad-hominem because it's the only fallacy i'm aware of and i don't know the difference between it and an insult anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 06:55 AM
0

what's the difference between an ad-hom and an insult?
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 06:53 AM
2

lol apparently i made you so mad you can't do anything but say culture war words
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 06:37 AM
0

i'm a professor. i assemble a team and get funding to find out who the saddest man on earth is. we rinse the funding getting pissed and the night before i fart out a report saying that of 30,000 people surveyed over 19 countries, literally all of them pointed to u/De_Carabas_of_Below as being the saddest person alive. additionally, 96% unprompted mentioned that he also had the smallest dick on earth. all my team sign it and we send it in. it would be published in a reputable journal and this is …
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 06:35 AM
-1

lol
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 06:27 AM
1

yeah it's almost like i was agreeing with your suggested steps.
/r/seduction14/10/22 06:26 AM
3

get an old lady to tell you about where she was living when she was 21. get a middle aged businesswoman to laugh get a hookup for cocaine without getting stabbed and mugged. don't do the last one.
/r/seduction14/10/22 05:44 AM
2

i honestly can't believe a severely socially anxious virgin's first task is to steam up to women and say corny bullshit written by an internet man with a legitimate hope to have sex with her. if you are lucky, really lucky, you might switch off the part of your brain that cares when someone tells you to fuck off. hopefully that doesn't lead to you getting severely bashed. but you will definitely encounter repeated failure, constant anxiety, and exposure to a huge number of women who really don't…
/r/seduction14/10/22 05:41 AM
27

stop talking to her. you fucked up and she's not interested. stop trying to force it to be right.
/r/seduction14/10/22 04:07 AM
1

go to his wikipedia page. tons of articles with interviews. he also wrote a book called 'the truth' which is a pseudo sequel to the game where he goes over how it fucked him up.
/r/seduction14/10/22 03:58 AM
3

lol. watched his video on masculinity and i'd sooner blow my head off then listen to this pathetic weasel.
/r/seduction14/10/22 03:56 AM
5

honest signalz checked out his stuff on masculinity which was not too bad and dominance which was weird dog shit. so i guess he's better than most
/r/seduction14/10/22 03:52 AM
1

read the neil strauss stuff post the game. where he goes over how pickup artistry destroyed his life and brain.
/r/seduction14/10/22 03:42 AM
2

appreciated!
/r/seduction14/10/22 03:34 AM
2

if that wasn't ironic, thanks. that's a high complement.
/r/seduction14/10/22 03:30 AM
-3

lol if you even went near a history book you'd find that matriarchal societies have existed and they were actually fucking rad so no your fanfic does not check out.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 03:29 AM
0

hahaha you could not have said 'oh dear, these are all corny as fuck, he's going to humiliate me' any clearer.
/r/seduction13/10/22 11:46 PM
0

Could you please elaborate what it is then? According to you? Genuinely curious
/r/seduction13/10/22 11:45 PM
0

which bit?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:38 PM
2

no. you are not entitled to another's company. ever. asking women out when you have no social skills or status is guaranteed no's. they did it entirely to themselves for being socially r-worded.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:37 PM
0

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA yeah that team of dipshits whose own methodology was an actual joke and if it wasn't for the right-wing entertainment network that isn't allowed to call itself news, it wouldn't be a thing because it was so fucking pathetic.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:36 PM
0

You post links to grievance study reports? what are you talking about? quote me posting links to grievance studies.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:29 PM
2

all from the article i gave you perfectly making fun of your attempt at a post Jumping to conclusions: arriving at any conclusion based on limited or no evidence Catastrophizing: magnifying the relevance of an event or believing in the worst possible outcome of a given situation Control fallacies: believing you either have no control or all control over what happens to you and others
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:28 PM
-1

what in the absolute fuck makes you think i won't outfuck every man on this message board and make it look easy?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:15 PM
0

oh i see you meant it to be embarrassing trash. give me a good example please.
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:11 PM
2

no. because they are severely mentally unwell. there are 9 different types of hopelessness as classified by psychiatrists. if yo identify with a few, you might need therapy. black pill rejects are guilty of all 9, at the same times, and every single one of the associated behaviours. all i need is a black pill volunteer and i can effortlessly prove it. https://psychcentral.com/anxiety/the-9-types-of-hopelessness-and-how-to-overcome-them
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 10:00 PM
-1

blue pill
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:57 PM
1

wow! a whole anecdote of a single event told by a narrator with a vested interest in being a whiniging pissbaby who refuses to change and blames everyone else!
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:57 PM
1

i assure you, confidence is different from tolerating discomfort.
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:55 PM
1

i would be very surprised if that's the case. they have a vested interest in keeping you lonely, sexless, and flush with funds for the new book that's coming out.
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:13 PM
0

it's a paradox. they think fucking a woman will make them a man. so the learn game and manipulate, shame, pressure, gaslight the woman while pretending to be a much more interesting man than they ever were. a woman drunk enough and horny enough might miss the obvious red flag and may fuck them. unfortunately because it was all lies, they don't feel good. the person the women actually wanted to fuck was the pale facsimile of an internet loser with a giant hat. that's got to be depressing. so they…
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:10 PM
8

No more super cars. [willy wonka voice] no. wait. stop. you mustn't.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 08:26 PM
0

when the fuck did this place become r/writingprompts for people with fucked up ideas about sociological issues?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 08:21 PM
0

exactly. she felt vulnerable, used, and scared. she turned to you to find what type of support you would be and you became a ass mad pissbaby. i'd say yall are done.
/r/seduction13/10/22 08:13 PM
11

try listening more. people fucking love talking about themselves. here's a god damn guide with very simple instructions on how you can basically never run out of things today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_listening
/r/seduction13/10/22 08:11 PM
1

you could just ask her. if i had to guess that dude was a negative impact on her. she specifically kept you close but asked if you'd still care about her if you didn't get to put your cock near her. she wanted to be reminded that she's more then a meatsuit attached to a vagina. you of course cared exclusively about yourself and steamed out of there. but that's just a guess.
/r/seduction13/10/22 08:02 PM
2

Yeah, it is more the fact that it’s a workplace scenario that makes it slightly inappropriate. We don’t work in close proximity and don’t see each other very often. But he is higher up than me, so I’m thinking it would be frowned upon. I’m also worried about embarrassing myself by being the one to make a move because, like I said, don’t know if it’s more of a dad thing for him. Especially having been called kiddo a couple of times, lol.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:50 PM
2

I’m late 20s and he’s about mid 40s or late 40s 😬. What do you think the likeliness of that is?
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:35 PM
2

sounds like you should tell her you want someone special. if you're feeling spicy you could add that you had a feeling that someone could be her. i personally think honesty looks like a good plan.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:34 PM
2

probably should have done that then because interpersonal relationships are hard and you will need practice.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:28 PM
2

make sure you show op how to do dominance. you might show me a thing or two. i'll read with interest.
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:51 PM
5

holy shit dude. first of all, intonation, pronunciation, inflection, and that sort of thing are all part of communication. i could say 'i like your shoes' but sounding like i'm about to vomit. do i like those shoes? it's a package. there is no pitch your voice could be that would make her hyman re-grow while absorbing any moisture in a 50yd radius. the pitch of your voice is part of your communication. don't worry about this insane minutia bullshit. is has you focussed on ridiculous shit.
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:45 PM
1

as far as i'm aware anyone could test me at any time and no one has because that would be fucking weird so i think you're worried about stupid shit and it's destroying your ability to connect with women.
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:44 PM
1

maybe i misunderstood because absolutely no one mistakes my capabilities in those areas under any circumstances. or maybe it's because dominance literally means exerting power and influence over others.
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:37 PM
9

successful intimate interpersonal relationships are not obtained via magic spell. there are no magic words. there is no concrete correct steps. you are trying to build a strong and sincere interpersonal connection with a specific woman. the men who write these guides are not you. they do not have your strengths and your weaknesses. and the women they say they fuck are not the same person as the girl you're talking about, and they do not find the same traits in the same order of importance sexy. …
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:35 PM
1

It's been proven time and time again that women give horrible dating advice. cool can i see it?
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:29 PM
1

women after he transitioned since this thread is fucking worthless for actual advice, i'll give some here as a consolation prize. what i quoted here is what i'd classify as petty, casual cruelty. for the most part, women genuinely do not like this. if it costs you nothing, and does not effect you to be decent, and yet you choose to be a casual, petty, hateful shitbag, a lot of women might not like it. true facts.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 06:09 PM
1

did you know that there are 9 different types of 'hopelessness'? having issues with a couple of the 9 types means you should probably get some therapy. you display all 9. i'm not joking. read here if you like, though it won't mean anything to you because it threatens you. bottom line, you need psychotherapy treatment. if you don't get it, you will never succeed for any reason. good luck. https://psychcentral.com/anxiety/the-9-types-of-hopelessness-and-how-to-overcome-them
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:03 PM
4

fuckng thank you my dude. i couldn't believe what i was reading. brings up interracial like we're in kentucky in the 50s, and speaking of kentucky in the 50s i couldn't help but get some weird vibes about 'wide smile'. op, i think you're a lunatic, but good luck, and godspeed.
/r/seduction13/10/22 06:00 PM
15

if you're struggling to physically escalate, what if you were to escalate your attention and interest instead? like you get those signals and then you pay attention to her specifically, more eye contact, more smiling, just be physically a little closer than you were. you'll probably see more success doing this since you'll be more comfortable in your actions then you would be if you were to robotically place your left hand on her shoulder, your right forearm on the small of her back, and prepare…
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:58 PM
6

masterful.
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:53 PM
1

nah bro you're a winner in waiting. the second you decide to worry only about the things you can control is the second you leave behind any notion of ever being a loser.
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:51 PM
10

i absolutely hated all of these. but the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. this is like a monument to terrible dog shit - and it's a wonder of the world subreddit.
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:50 PM
3

i can't imagine looking at the same thing as a woman in a gallery and saying anything other than something about what we're looking at. i couldn't imagine a more effective opening line.
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:49 PM
1

if he's 30+ and you're younger than about 23, he is not likely to approach you romantically. and regardless of your ages it might be an idea to find out yourself. beats wondering. you find out for sure either way, and maybe get a cute dude as a bonus. good luck.
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:47 PM
-1

unironically, in a lot of cases, and if you went through the correct medical channels, yes. only because medical transition requires simultaneous, ongoing and extensive psychotherapy which at least 75% of dudes here need. you could just do therapy without the rest of it i guess.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 05:37 PM
11

do not do this. you are already larger and stronger than the woman most of the time. you do not need to display dominance towards her until she asks you to for sex reasons.
/r/seduction13/10/22 05:35 PM
2

holy shit. bro i'm so happy for you. i'm very glad it worked out and for what it's worth i'm proud of you for standing up for yourself like that. extremely good shit. happy to help, but you did the work.
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:54 PM
1

i learned from another poster that this is top tier 'teachings' in the pick up community. when people ask for help, they need specifics. so real live men will say this to women: "God, you'd get me in so much trouble... I'd better avoid you." and be confused when they fail.
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:08 PM
0

lol i bet you were real proud of this one
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:06 PM
1

You going to tell us how negging is just insulting people next? no. that's straight up manipulation and one of the most universally reviled pua shit techniques in existence "God, you'd get me in so much trouble... I'd better avoid you." this is push pull? i thought that was that hard to get shit. ignoring her then giving her attention. obviously i got that mixed up with being the corniest motherfucker in existence.
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:06 PM
-1

man i can't teach you shit. if you really like the girl and find it easy to talk to her, you will. if you don't, you're flirting with the wrong girl.
/r/seduction13/10/22 01:56 PM
3

that misses the point of the comparison. if you're a horrible dancer but getting sturdy on the floor with a girl who's laughing and trying to out-ridiculous you it's all you need.
/r/seduction13/10/22 01:55 PM
3

he ruined his life and spawned a subculture that sees no problem with deceiving, manipulating, harassing, and assaulting women.
/r/seduction13/10/22 12:49 PM
-1

it's about presenting yourself in a sexual way. i can't really agree. it's about connecting with the other person. flirting sure can lead to sex, but it's not the point. it's building connection and attraction until sex is just a formality.
/r/seduction13/10/22 12:47 PM
0

You had your social skills to get women(most likely low value). lol now i get some fanfic Attractive men are usually tall with prettyboy faces. Mostly unachievable. see ya later, goalposts.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:36 AM
1

10 years ago i had a rippling six pack and was a competitive boxer. i am now fat and old. i succeed with women more than ever. so yeah, bullshit.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:25 AM
2

definitely not. some people learn maths quicker than others. but no matter how gifted you are at maths you still have to put in a shitload of effort to get your phd. just less than someone who isn't gifted. but definitely not insignificant.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:12 AM
-2

I never said people are born with social skills. Attractive men were pretty much forced it upon them. It’s a different life they live compared to the average men. this is literally fan fic. you don't know what you're talking about.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 11:07 AM
1

that's fine i'm saying it for people who might take you seriously.
/r/seduction13/10/22 11:05 AM
5

i'd like to clarify that reducing the emotional impact of rejection via exposure therapy is not confidence. that's just a treated condition. and that's cool, it's relevant to the op, i'd just like to point out that not feeling rejection does not mean you're confident.
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:38 AM
1

Confident men handle rejections like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0nB1CRRkCk&ab_channel=MikeMehlman what? i don't think that guy is confident or teaching confidence. through gradual exposure or extreme exposure he has just terminated the part of his brain that send the signals to generate the emotions associated with rejections. this is very bad.
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:29 AM
14

it is literally insignificant. you know when someone pushes past you but tries to be as gentle and unobtrusive as possible and they say 'excuse me, sorry!'? it's like that. you'd prefer that didn't happen, but it's completely harmless and not worth another microsecond of time in your brain. Its a psychological condition so can't easily be changed. yes, you need to get professional help before progressing at this.
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:14 AM
1

i remember there being a big company called real social dynamics that was founded by someone in the book and after operating successfully for several years normal people accidentally stumbled on what they were teaching people. normal people thought it was not good. since then, i've noticed people desperately trying to distance themselves from all the in-hindsight extremely morally fucked up 'techniques' from 'the game' and the r*pists at real social dynamics; instead choosing to frame it more li…
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:01 AM
2

yeah you're right. if your life has led you to finding misogyny and sexual harassment funny you don't really need additional shaming. my bad.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:40 AM
4

you can't judge a book by looking at the private life of the author. what are you talking about? i never mentioned the book. the seduction community fucked up his brain and his life.
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:37 AM
0

what's funny?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:35 AM
-5

you don't know what you're talking about. by explaining that nobody is born with social skills, that placed the blame for your failure completely at your feet. the second your brain feels blame, your pre-frontal cortices (rationality, logic) are shut down and all power is given to the amygdala for your fight / flight mode in order to respond to the stress of being attacked. the reason you said all that stupid shit about people being basically born with social skills is because your brain is not …
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:30 AM
0

i didn't really know so i googled about what time of day women prefer to be interrupted by strangers and it looks like the internet at large doesn't really have an answer. i guess that makes your guess of lunchtime perfectly legitimate.
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:25 AM
-6

no man, none of them, can pull women with no effort. you are not thinking about the thousands of hours they spent socialising and learning about how to be around people.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 09:23 AM
11

.... it ruined his marriages and he was in therapy for ages for sex addiction. i just realised that someone who thinks sex is worth your entire life disintegrating probably thinks sex addiction is very cool. possibly alpha. ugh.
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:21 AM
3

i don't play any games because i do not tolerate games from women. in my relationships we say what we mean and are honest. push / pull and every other technique that is not honest gets no play from me.
/r/seduction13/10/22 08:21 AM
14

flirting can involve teasing, but it is in no way necessary. i never tease a girl about anything because people have the strangest hang ups. i am still able to flirt though.
/r/seduction13/10/22 08:17 AM
1

some men fetishise having someone shit on their chest. to them, anyone who will shit on their chest has the highest smv
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 08:13 AM
1

some men fetishise a small person putting a rod down their dick hole. a 3ft tall person with a rod to place in a dick hole has the highest SMV to those men.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:53 AM
3

did you read the op? he is a 30 year old autistic man. if you can fix him via reddit, i will be your biggest cheerleader. as a matter of fact, if you can suggest anything that he doesn't make an excuse as to why he can't do it i'll be impressed.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:48 AM
-4

i agree, blackpill is a moon logic worldview for the mentally unwell. i don't agree that we should huddle around and wonder about why they aren't fucking.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 07:29 AM
1

i don't think i can help you dude. there's people who want to know how they can change, and there's people who want to be told a shortcut so they don't have to change. go to a therapist, and tell them that individualism is causing people to whore around and nature will take it's course.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:25 AM
77

flirting is like kissing or dancing. no technique or idea is going to be suitable for all occasions. it's dependent on your partner. flirting is supposed to be natural. something that just happens when you're really vibing with someone.
/r/seduction13/10/22 07:22 AM
34

Neil Strauss WHAT YEAR IS IT?! nah i'm pleased to see mr strauss make an appearance here. i often wonder how many people know that pickup fucked up his life and that all the sex he could find and money he could scam still left him broken and unhappy.
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:48 AM
2

lol yeah i definitely couldn't type 'short men dating' into google and find tons. but there would always be an excuse from you and losers like you.
/r/seduction13/10/22 03:46 AM
3

hey. sounds like you don't have a lot of self esteem and that has been compounded with the stupid shit you see here like 'high value' women. you're more than your ability to have kids or be a wife. hope you think better of yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 09:48 PM
-2

why do you want to know? if you feel it's inappropriate to ask why push it?
/r/seduction12/10/22 09:38 PM
9

holy shit. a time traveller from 1950 has asked a question. the other explanation is that a person in the world today looked at plummeting marriage rates, rising ages of people who do marry, the general unpopularity of marriage in both genders but especially men, and the fact that fewer and fewer people can afford the thousands of dollars to do this fucking moron idiot ritual and thought the fact that a lot of men not wanting to do that with her is a slut.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 09:36 PM
1

wow. really happy it resonated with you dude.
/r/seduction12/10/22 09:34 PM
0

i guess if there's any lesson here, it's that the concept of sociological expertise is capable of melting a human brain to type barely connected words until it devolves into bizarre old-timey british slang. fascinating.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 05:46 PM
1

of course it was.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 05:43 PM
1

would you trust someone who cancelled on you repeatedly? what would you like to hear that might get you to trust them again?
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:43 PM
1

i'm not a mind reader man and neither or you. i'd stop worrying about her intentions and what she really means by things. in my view, you've got a pissed of girl who would maybe take you back under the right circumstances, but is likely to stop talking to you altogether instead. so you can either make things right, if you can think how, or you can accept and move on as far as i can see.
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:26 PM
2

i mean your expectation that she's still talking to you at all is misplaced. i'd have lost your number after fuck around number 2. the insinuation that she's just playing games instead of really mad at you is kind of an insult. i don't think you think very highly of her.
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:06 PM
1

she could be playing games because she has nothing to do with her time. she could also be mad that you've fucked her around repeatedly with the expectation that she shut up and deal with it.
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:03 PM
3

Dating is not just about girls liking you. Part of the journey is about you learning to like yourself. And you do that by sharing who you really are. wonderful. A-. if you wanted an A or A+ tho... And then girls would say “thats too much”, “that was cringe” or “that was a bit creepy”. I don’t regret any of that. It made me a better person. how would you teach you that lesson without making those women uncomfortable?
/r/seduction12/10/22 03:51 PM
1

big up your ting taking it well
/r/seduction12/10/22 03:48 PM
2

really cheering for you man. go get it.
/r/seduction12/10/22 03:11 PM
2

you have misread my post. you learned humour, the concept. not witty, the pick-up skill. and you did it not by copying someone else but by learning and assimilating. you were being yourself.
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:33 PM
2

i respect that.
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:08 PM
1

hahaha sorry dude. you're not wrong at all, but this is unlikely to be particularly popular here (UPDATE: rarely happier to be wrong). it's good you're thinking along these lines though. i've been able to break it down a bit more and pinpoint where a lot of this is coming from. i think it's driven by an insecurity about the concept of masculinity. you know how cultures had rights of passage? you kill a lion or something and then all the men gather round, look at the dead lion, and say 'this dude…
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:40 PM
4

look up the illegal crossing between africa and europe. then consider if a guy who has seen and done that needs to hear what you think about interpersonal relationships.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:33 PM
6

i like that attitude. you'll be fine.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:30 PM
2

if you can find someone who specialises in ptsd i'd start there because i expect that's what you're suffering from predominantly. find a therapist you are comfortable with. if you're not able to be honest about some of the rawest shit in your life with them you won't heal. shop around until you find someone you think you might be able to trust down the line and really open up to. took me a while to find my one. also, ufc heavyweight champ francis ngannou went through scarily similar shit to you.…
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:29 PM
5

.... ok. well i still really like this post.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:24 PM
2

holy shit. the best i've done is pissed off a mod of ppd to the point where i'm on-site banned. i need someone to create a whole algorithm to own me.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:14 PM
18

seriously, if you're downvoting this, fuck you. this is original, funny, educational, and self-aware. if you can't find something to respect about this then i don't even know.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:11 PM
7

do whatever man but i'm almost positive it's not going to work out. hope you prove me wrong tho
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:10 PM
13

this is fucking hilarious. backing feminist king carl
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:08 PM
11

uhhuh. 'crazy eyes'. i had them. they become way less noticeable when you start understanding and processing things and eventually you just end up with a resting bitch face and that's way more workable. it's exhausting, therapy, but man i swear to you that life can be so much more when you aren't fighting for your life every second of every day. all the best.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:04 PM
36

hey bro. first off, congrats. you made it. i've also been homeless. been jail too. that said, my opinion is that you need to go to therapy. i'm serious man i didn't go till i was past 30 and i had no fucking idea what just my time in jail had done to me. you're hyper-vigilant. you are intense. you are the opposite of chill. you really fucking want to be close to people yet your survival instinct is driving them away. i know you've done everything yourself, but i suggest you reach out to a profes…
/r/seduction12/10/22 12:26 PM
2

you misunderstood me. confidence doesn't mean 'will attract every woman and never fail to pick up'. it's just a single trait that is often regarded highly. personally i think the best bit about confidence is not giving a single fuck about being shot down. as fast as i can think 'that's a shame' i will never think about that person again in a romantic sense.
/r/seduction12/10/22 11:34 AM
18

that's a bot dude. lol.
/r/seduction12/10/22 11:25 AM
1

because change is inevitable and self-directable. if you genuinely want to be witty, you can study up and learn the skill. if you don't give a shit about being witty but only want it to succeed with women, go ahead, but i wouldn't advise it.
/r/seduction12/10/22 11:25 AM
6

sure, if it's what he wants to be good at he'll achieve it while being true to himself. being yourself does not mean not changing if you want to change yourself.
/r/seduction12/10/22 10:16 AM
1

there are as many traits and variations of importance for those traits as there are women on earth. so about 4 billion combinations which is a bit much for a reddit reply. two traits that have been observed to be important enough that women will sacrifice attractiveness for it is being hardworking and being easy-going. i'm not going to google science journals to give you more i'm done with research today.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 09:34 AM
11

i hate reading stories like these because if i'm honest i have to be a bit of a dickhead. if you want to read the best advice that i can give that will give you the highest chance of success it would be this: next time you see her, go straight up to her and say 'excuse me hi i really enjoyed talking to you the other day. do you want to grab a coffee whenever?' i'm now going to be a dick. you've probably fucked it up regardless. the second you have an inappropriate infatuation with someone you ge…
/r/seduction12/10/22 09:30 AM
2

yeah anyone selling you solutions has a vested interest in keeping you unsuccessful and lonely.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 09:16 AM
1

you'll be happy to know that the twitter man doesn't really know what he's talking about and that you can in fact develop traits that women find attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 09:12 AM
3

'holy shit, he can work at something every day for years!'
/r/seduction12/10/22 09:03 AM
5

Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing 'look over there' i am absolutely terrified to know how many people read this and think 'hahaha yeah correlation IS causation just like i suspected we just have to say it's not ;-)' and not 'correlations should be a compass for further scrutiny'
/r/seduction12/10/22 08:29 AM
1

if that's his problem and assessment then he knows how to fix it.
/r/seduction12/10/22 07:44 AM
5

Immagine the outrage if a man would admit something like that. it turns out it happens and nobody really cares. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/30/ive-discovered-my-husband-has-been-cheating-on-me-for-25-years
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 07:34 AM
2

if you have the social finesse this is mandatory. there's a difference between giving a report on quarterly earnings to the board and giving a report to the bucks party on your trip to thailand with the buck. very few people care about the words you say as much as the vibe you're saying it with. reddit can actually be an interesting barometer for this. i am a fucking prick in most of my posts here intentionally because i'm specifically fishing for the correct language to use to persuade people a…
/r/seduction12/10/22 07:25 AM
2

lack of caring if they liked me/ulterior motive when I was interacting with people. this is it in it's entirety. i would tell people to stop giving a fuck about all of this and you will get laid quicker but that truth is too real.
/r/seduction12/10/22 07:13 AM
0

exactly. it's ambiguous, and as in my last edit it might be a really fucking stupid idea to even attempt to generalise the best sexual traits.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 06:08 AM
13

he cheated on his long term spouse with you, shamelessly tried to keep the connection alive in the intervening time, and is now acting shady when another girl is present and you still give a fuck about him at all? even wondering who his girlfriend is is giving an embarrassing amount of energy to this clown, imo. by all means though, i'm not your dad and you don't share my values.
/r/seduction12/10/22 06:01 AM
20

stop thinking about this dipshit and have some self respect.
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:55 AM
6

i have never been cheated on. ever. i've got this awesome trick that stops you from being a cuck (unless you like that). i obviously can't give away my secrets, but i'll give you a clue: the man in the article, for at least 25 years, has never felt that his wife is attracted to him. she has fucking hated him fucking her 90% of the time and he either didn't notice or didn't care. if he expected her not to fuck other men, lol, lmao, lol.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 05:52 AM
5

i look scary as fuck and my default expression is extremely alarming. i haven't tried to change those things. instead i let my personality contradict my appearance and believe me women really, really like the contrast. so i guess you could change the traits you feel are off-putting, or compensate for them.
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:26 AM
5

ok look. rejection happens. i'm not compatible with a lot of people. in my last 5 OLD dates, i rejected 2 of them after the first date because i felt we weren't compatible. 1 rejected me. 2 were followed up. out of 5 women where we had mutual attraction, 2 got to a second date. it's not a big deal. of my 4 long term (> 2 years) relationships they failed due to life circumstances happening, me being a dickhead, me not listening and imposing my values on others, and complex interpersonal issues. '…
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:24 AM
0

lol he absolutely nails a lot of the flaws in incel's use of academic study to bolster their worldview and then proceeds to do it himself. and also cites no sources. come on. i know it's twitter but if you're going to type up two dozen tweets what's a couple more. the problem with black / redpill shit is that it is a worldview that is removed from reality. not to say there are not kernels of truth at the centre. the best bullshit is wrapping up a truth. absolute fact: most surveyed women stated …
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 03:09 AM
1

cool
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:45 AM
1

yeah man definitely saying that definitely not you being so insecure about the concept of virginity that you read meaning that isn't there into words online.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:44 AM
1

look man, if you want to argue that the redpill is full of people who are fucking, i won't gainsay you. i will laugh though.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:41 AM
1

online dating
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:40 AM
1

no, because redpill exists because of men who can't get laid. many of whom are virgins or were until recently. so when your entire community consists mostly of virgins, i wonder what their forefathers were like and who they were trying to reach?
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:38 AM
2

cool good luck and have fun.
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:35 AM
1

You said that you don’t like redpillers and then you said they are virgins yes, i don't like redpillers but i do like water. which redpillers drink too. i must hate water!
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:35 AM
0

lol i did not use it as a pejorative. i make no judgements on a man based on the amount of sex he's had. zero. that's not to say that you're wrong to read it that way. in fact, i knew you would because you're insecure about your masculinity. The stigma virginity script reflects traditional masculine ideology (Carpenter, 2005; Humphreys, 2013; Kelly, 2010) such that cisgender men must want as much intercourse as they can get, and therefore being a virgin is a weakness (Eriksson & Humphreys, 2014)…
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:26 AM
1

my sex life does not need helping. i literally could not fuck more and lead a life i find fulfilling. i did it all without these embarrassing notions.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:23 AM
1

yeah you're right it's just a weird coincidence that red pill spaces are misogynistic shitholes that shame women for sex it has nothing to do with the red pill constitution enshrined by the forefathers of virginity. forget i said anything.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 02:20 AM
1

i am also 6ft but i do not put it in my bio because i don't want women who like me for my height. i also do not want to encourage snap judgements based on immutable characteristics more than OLD already does.
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:16 AM
-2

my source would be your inability to find evidence that a lack of sex prevents happiness and fulfilment. EDIT: you people are fucking morons there's no milk in that bowl. SOURCE?! my source is your inability to show me milk in that bowl.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:36 AM
-3

sure but you will find no research saying a lack of it stops you from happiness or fulfilment.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:34 AM
5

When you speak to a girl, talk to her in a seductive way, think about how sexy she is, let her beauty wrap your words in a seductive voice. lol
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:15 AM
2

yes. i think women being property is bad and i like to have sex with women so i also think sexual liberation is good.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 01:13 AM
6

do you think it's a good use of your time on earth being depressed over something that even for sex havers is a very, very small part of their lives?
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:11 AM
33

However, I'm not a naturally witty person like he is. be yourself. copying him will still leave you a pale imitation of a witty person at absolute best.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:10 AM
1

amen.
/r/seduction12/10/22 01:07 AM
0

this is really funny because you're actually supporting my argument. if it's too many words for you to read, my point is 'it's your confidence that's attractive. if you're a whinging pissbaby all the muscles and jaw definition in the world will not make a significant difference'
/r/seduction12/10/22 12:22 AM
2

I struggle to hold my value whenever I get a girls attention too it seems, I gave away too much of my value and myself and she loses interest quickly. what does this even mean? value is innate. it's the respect you have for yourself. nobody is taking anything. if the actions of other people shakes you, it's not shaking your confidence. it's stripping away the pantomime bravado shit that the manosphere's teachings put there while you weren't looking.
/r/seduction12/10/22 12:14 AM
3

can we at least say why? what hell-world do you expect if the blue pills ruled? for example in my redpill rules fanfic society goes back to the 1950s where women are property and marriage within a year of meeting a person is an expectation. that sounds absolutely nightmarish to a person who likes to have sex.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 12:07 AM
7

did you notice this attention only when your woman was present? or all the time?
/r/seduction12/10/22 12:04 AM
2

i dont' know how it works for salsa but i'd just wait till the song ends.
/r/seduction11/10/22 11:39 PM
3

there are no bad conversation starters. just bad timing. i don't stop women while they're walking, so i don't need some bombastic story to 'grab their attention' or whatever the fuck. i do life until it puts me in a situation where 'hey how's it going' is friendly and reasonable and everyone responds.
/r/seduction11/10/22 11:33 PM
1

it’s fairly easy imo to put up with lots of low iq convos. sleeping with someone i think this poorly of would disrespect her and myself.
/r/seduction11/10/22 11:24 PM
1

lol. i bet all the words those losers typed made you assume they had a very strong argument
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 10:16 PM
-3

hi, if you want to debate academics, cite sources. your fucked up brain's interpretations of what's going on has no value. EDIT: the very strong and correct dickhead this is replying to blocked me to stop me from responding. that should give you some idea of how confident he is in his ideas, and how pathetic he is as a human.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 10:15 PM
-4

hi, if you want to debate academics, cite sources. your fucked up brain's interpretations of what's going on has no value.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 10:15 PM
7

I'm just turned on by crying woman. because there are many women in my life that i know and love i hope you'll understand why my only advice is going to therapy and tell them the bit i quoted.
/r/seduction11/10/22 03:41 PM
9

just about recovered fix this first. you seem to have low self esteem and what could be interpreted as depression and anxiety effecting you. you'll be ready to move on to meeting people when you can look in the mirror and see a reason to date you.
/r/seduction11/10/22 03:05 PM
2

lol i love how that retort absolutely did not say 'the men here are not losers'.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 02:55 PM
2

not just look like. you're even doing the things frustrated men with low self esteem do like posting here.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 02:38 PM
0

shh it's alright let him think he speaks for men that have sex for just a few more minutes.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:08 PM
29

i just want to #notallmen here. used to do security at a strip club. it was hard to ignore their beauty the first week. never thought about their beauty again from that point on. beauty is only the most interesting thing about a person until you meet them. it might be different if you have massive brain damage but that's my experience anyway.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:07 PM
-2

ah. lucky you came to me. i happen to be the expert at that specific girl you're talking about and no you're ugly she was joking. definitely don't listen to the person themselves. these subreddits full of lonely, unsuccessful men will give you the 4-1-1 on what the one specific woman your talking about ACTUALLY thinks.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:01 PM
0

who would have thought this breed of dork values what some guy feels is true over reality.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 01:58 PM
0

step 2: cry on this subreddit when after a date a woman ghosts you and make sure you tell everyone you did the mystery method correctly then conclude she was on her period
/r/seduction11/10/22 12:57 PM
0

what a wonderful imagination you have. you should write young adult novels.
/r/seduction11/10/22 12:46 PM
-4

literally nothing you said was backed up by anything published by people who know what they're talking about.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 12:44 PM
2

ask yourself what type of man would have to lie in order to sleep with a woman.
/r/seduction11/10/22 11:24 AM
-2

[said to a judge] she was telling me about being harassed by other guys. of course she meant 'start having aggressive sex with me'.
/r/seduction11/10/22 11:22 AM
-1

yes. my guess is that she doesn't want to be accused of cheating so she's sharing every potentially misinterpreted communication so you know she's turning them down. either that or she does not respect you at all, and is telling you that to humiliate and belittle you. because both results are plausible you shouldn't act until you know for sure. so ask.
/r/seduction11/10/22 11:19 AM
-11

I wonder why guys often don't assume that, lol. because assumptions are for idiots who like being wrong. an adult would ask her what she means by telling you this, listen to her answer, and respond appropriately with the correct information.
/r/seduction11/10/22 09:34 AM
2

yeah i'm sure it's nothing to do with the rise of the internet and the differences between the number of young men and the number of young women that will eschew real life connections to live behind a screen.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 08:45 AM
-1

oh word? We present findings from an almost comprehensive world-level analysis using census and survey microdata from 420 samples and 120 countries spanning from 1960 to 2011, which allow us to assert that the reversal of the gender gap in education is strongly associated with the end of hypergamy and increases in hypogamy oh, word? Across a range of different contexts (e.g. United States, France, India, South Korea, Kenya), the norms governing marriage markets have proven flexible enough to acc…
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 08:42 AM
1

absolute stupid bullshit. i used to box. rippling six pack. i'm now old and fat and effortlessly out-succeeding my younger self with women.
/r/seduction10/10/22 02:10 PM
3

If they believe they're that hopeless, maybe learn to be happy being single and don't waste time on Reddit. entitlement. straight up. despite being absolute wastes of oxygen the world still taught them that they deserve a girlfriend and they will have a tantrum until it happens. they are among the most insufferable human beings alive and it takes everything in me not to just snap and let them know what a mewling sack of shit they are. 28 day ban from one of the pill debate subs yesterday for let…
/r/seduction10/10/22 11:49 AM
4

you put yourself in enough social situations, it just happens. you don't even need to do anything. just read the story of this guy who is not just not good but actively bad at 'picking up' and it's still taking all the effort in the world fuck up. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/xztwel/i_believe_i_missed_3_big_shots_in_one_night/
/r/seduction10/10/22 11:39 AM
-1

i wouldn't either if i were them to be fair, but i salute your effort to save my internet points!
/r/seduction10/10/22 11:32 AM
10

women are people dude just like men. there's beautiful angels and the worst of the worst. i can't speak on your culture but honestly the best way to avoid being blackmailed is by not doing or saying anything that could be used to blackmail you.
/r/seduction10/10/22 11:13 AM
4

why would somebody blackmail you? are you very wealthy? what would they use as blackmail material? why do you think women would do this?
/r/seduction10/10/22 11:04 AM
-7

that's not projecting dude. that's relaying first hand experience. using essentially this method i have had an amount of sex that is objectively ridiculous and a body count that would make even the people who don't care about body counts call me a slut. don't know why it's being downvoted though. it's just my opininon based on what worked stupidly well for me.
/r/seduction10/10/22 10:36 AM
2

yeesh... man go easy and stay safe. maybe get some money together to move too...
/r/seduction10/10/22 10:11 AM
2

damn man. hopefully even though it's a really rural place the fact that it's in cali might mean less bigotry. regardless, i think a good approach would be slow and careful. dating in a small town can feel like being forced to date a co-worker or a room mate - it's a terrible idea that you're kind of forced into. i'd try and be as socially broad as possible. know a lot of people and work to make their opinion of you high. you need to have the social proof necessary to deal with potential fallout …
/r/seduction10/10/22 09:33 AM
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i disagree completely. basically every dude in this sub would benefit from putting sex entirely out of their minds. they'd stop wasting time reading this stupid shit, harrassing women who want to be left alone and laying awake at night worrying they'd die a virgin. in that time they'd do things that actually make life worth living. women they encounter they'd speak to naturally and without weirdness. by doing this they'd probably make a few girl-friends. and living a full life, with a broad soci…
/r/seduction10/10/22 09:21 AM
2

talk to her. this sub makes a big fucking deal about taking the lead and no man asks permission and all this dumb shit. talk with her. ask her. you're not a god damn mind reader, don't pretend to be.
/r/seduction10/10/22 05:10 AM
0

i really question whether or not you 'really clicked' if you're willing to throw your year-long relationship in the trash because you misread the situation. sounds to me like she picked up that you aren't really who you were pretending to be. leave her alone until you become a better person.
/r/seduction10/10/22 04:39 AM
-1

gross. ok.
/r/seduction10/10/22 04:18 AM
0

i don't understand what you're trying to say. is there an example to hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:10 PM
2

nope. you're just not meshing with the people. conversations are effortless when you click. it won't happen often, but if you meet plenty of people it does not matter.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:38 PM
1

sure i've heard of the concept, but i think the people doing the mocking are a fucking joke and anyone who would take that shit to heart is a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:38 PM
2

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:37 PM
0

huh? if you cared about getting to know someone you wouldn't let that stop you. you've just asked how they are. there's literally infinity more questions to ask. and if the conversation peters out, who cares? not all people are socially compatible.
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:26 PM
-1

bullshit. i guarantee you that no matter how fucked up ugly you are, there exists a woman that is all about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:24 PM
-1

why the fuck would i respond to unsubstantiated claims by a loser crying about how it isn't his fault he's failing socially? fuck you i've got better things to do with my time lol. get some academic citations and i'll respond properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:17 PM
1

i served in the military for 20 years. that do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:16 PM
1

Ad hom is basically the same as an insult, in the case of your """argument""" no. you absolute dipshit. an ad hom is an insult with no attached argument. it is not an ad-hom to destroy your argument and then call you names. can you copy and paste the exact arguments you don't think i've adequately addressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:08 PM
3

annnnnd extremely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:01 PM
2

normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:01 PM
6

lol sure thing normal guy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:00 PM
1

hahaha and i get to use this quote again lol it's amazing that all you dweebs know exactly one logical fallacy and it's always ad-hom, but you have no idea how an ad-hom differs from an insult. it's embarrassing to behold.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:00 PM
1

do you think it might be because you're socially stunted and normal conversation can be perceived by you as a massive effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:53 PM
7

hahahaha it is genuinely amazing that you can act like the worldly, definitely attached to reality man while asserting that women are not physically threated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:49 PM
6

you have to trust your partner totally in order for a relationship to work. the second you don't trust your partner, the relationship is over. it might tick on for another year but it died the second you looked through her facebook messages or whatever. if you can't get a hold of yourself, you're dooming the relationship. enjoy!
/r/seduction09/10/22 08:45 PM
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OP is basically saying that men are often forced into a position where they are expected to act as a jester for women on dates. this is not true at all except for people who run pua shit. they are the performing monkeys. people who socialise normally don't have this issue. pua practitioners disrespect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:42 PM
5

if you made an argument it was incoherent to me, but something you did do very effectively was perpetuate a really shitty meme that damages women so i focussed my reply accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:24 PM
1

yeah, you should pick on someone your own size, like any of the academics viciously criticising that joke of a 'science'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:13 PM
1

you have absolutely no basis for that argument. you are still attributing characteristics to women that do not exist to perpetuate a lie to demean them. you suck. stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:12 PM
6

why do you feel entitled to judge what another person finds attractive? a normal person wouldn't have to have his view changed, he'd have to realise that he's not the person he's talking about, and doesn't know more than them about what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:10 PM
1

my point is women feel in actual, physical danger when rejecting a man, and it would be fucking stupid to compound a blow to his pride with the humiliation of a 'vicious' rejection. you are lying about how women reject men. it's grotesque and frankly not very masculine behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:07 PM
1

i don't think i'm qualified to challenge the opinions of any of the citation's authors. so i'll let the entire wikipedia page of academic criticism stand without my mighty help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:03 PM
-4

at least own what you say. stand by it or apologise for it. this mewling half-stepping is difficult to respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:58 PM
9

when you hold opinions like yours, it doesn't come out in those exact, disgusting words. it comes out in your general attitude. the fact that you hate and fear women will ooze off you no matter what you say or how you're saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:54 PM
1

Women were also less savage when rejecting men back then than they are now. you know you guys just sound like liars when you say this right? anyone who knows anything about women knows that rejecting a man is extremely scary and stressful for them. just stop saying this you god damn losers. stop making shit up about fictional women you approached in order to demean real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:50 PM
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i love these stories. absolute proof that if you just get out and about and do a few things sex will be hurled at you so you have to actively fuck it up like poor OP in order to miss it. good news OP, you'll be better next time.
/r/seduction09/10/22 07:47 PM
0

i had forgotten that criticism of evo psychs didn't have a section. it had it's own wikipedia page.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:45 PM
8

yes i absolutely believe that women would trust the guy who thinks of them as animals incapable of bonding with deeply personal information about their personal lives. this changes everything! i will now be a lunatic about women alongside you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:43 PM
5

my pleasure dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:39 PM
1

that's why i'm here. i think this shit is legitimately dangerous. there are people in psychiatric hospitals right now with more of a grip on reality than the op
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:36 PM
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But for once I would like someone to want to get to know me enough to actually feel like they are perusing that. read this 10 times. that's the goal. that's how all my relationships are now. i find someone who really likes hanging with me as much as i do her and our attraction grows at the same rate. it's a wonderful, validating, freeing feeling. stop trying to make girls who aren't that into you into you. save that energy for the women who like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:35 PM
0

yeah i'm shooting from the hip but i'm quite confident in my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:28 PM
15

i'm just going to step in here an embarrass you because your opinions of women are repulsive and i don't like you at all Income and occupational status did not affect platonic attraction, and occupational status did not affect romantic attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:23 PM
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my dude. this would sound better if there weren't about 3 or 4 other top level comments pointing out how embarrassing your attempts to parse academic literature were.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:17 PM
-1

i don't know if it's funnier if you posted this because you know into what sort of a frothing rage it will throw the userbase here or if you are genuinely stymied at this road block of life, but godspeed on your journey, RIP your inbox, it will probably be some of the worst shit you'll read online.
/r/seduction09/10/22 07:16 PM
1

hey man really glad you liked my 3 day old post enough to comment on it. hope you have a great day full of normal things.
/r/seduction09/10/22 07:08 PM
3

i absolutely hate where this thread will go. i'm embarrassed to post here. namaste.
/r/seduction09/10/22 07:07 PM
2

yeesh... this is one of those videos that is technically correct but structured poorly so it loses a lot of its potential impact. knowing how to tell a story is so god damn vital to being entertaining company, so even if the video doesn't make all of the sense the first time through, watch it a couple more times to see if you can pick up what it's putting down. it's a worthy skill.
/r/seduction09/10/22 07:06 PM
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The statements you’re making are not even substantiated by the links you provide. i'm sorry but if anyone got past the bit where he was calling women animals and expected his interpretations of academic literature to be accurate then there might be no hope for you. Because of course women care about bonding, speaking generally. it is staggering how sheltered you'd have to be to even delude yourself into thinking that women don't care about bonding. like, zero contact with human women or even rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:00 PM
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I just find the whole post weird? then you're doing fine. the post is absolutely detached from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:55 PM
2

er, yeah. i'm not your dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:52 PM
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lol i came for the hard hitting bio truths and stayed for the unnecessarily brutal owning of academics who were just unfortunate enough to be cited by a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:51 PM
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i love it when people in this sub cite sources. you can refute their arguments 100% of the time by simply reading the sources they provide. it will contradict them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:49 PM
5

cool. i literally don't care to stop you thinking all women definitely work the same way. it will ensure you stay far away from women and i think that would be for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:47 PM
14

I walked up to her and offered her my hand to dance and she took it and danced for a few minutes i cannot believe that worked, but good for you man! but yes, a girl will take it to heart when she puts in a lot of effort to get to know you and you just walk off to babysit a drunk. don't do that in future, or apologise profusely to her before you leave and say you'll be right back.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:44 PM
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you've got some fucked up ideas about women, your knowledge of how mammals mate is almost impossibly wrong, and your beliefs are fundamentally anti-science and anti-reality. do try and be less bitter though people he was right about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:41 PM
1

i'm not trying to stop you from thinking that.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:35 PM
7

i straight up consider it predatory. the amount of dominance and control you have over people that young is frankly terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:35 PM
2

People dictate who he loves? yeah. right here people from the social circle said "aren't you going to to make that girl your GF are you?" ofcourse i didn't. really cool isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:32 PM
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i highly encourage anyone who feels the same to make themselves known. stand up loud and proud with your man here and pronounce that it's ok to have sex with someone who looks, sounds, and acts like a child because she's technically legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:31 PM
12

Do you think if the rest of the group found this out about this it could lead to the person being ostracized? not ostracised, but personally that dude would be a strictly professional associate. any grown man who dates a 19 year old is wrong in the head. you won't be able to understand this until you know what it's like to be 30, but a 19 year old looks, sounds, and acts like a child. people absolutely care, and they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:25 PM
1

yep anyone who gives you certain answers to these questions is lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:18 PM
2

you continue your life citing evo pop-psych and expect to be taken seriously of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:17 PM
2

whoa. dude i agree the two girls in the story are unique characters but you're not bringing it out of them. they do feel safe with you. that's a compliment. you're a good man. keep being one.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:16 PM
1

hope it helps dude. don't complicate things. keep it simple and friendly.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:15 PM
1

thanks for your input. it's going to be wild when you read further down and see the op seeking my advice and taking that advice.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:14 PM
2

Its pretty commom to see men break up with women after learning thats she used to be passed around. what sort of weak-ass bitch-made man let's what other people think dictate who he loves? ofcourse i didn't. ah....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:13 PM
3

fucking upvote for accidental brilliance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:11 PM
13

it's a conversation. it flows. it's not the line you're using, it's when you're using it. 'hi how's it going' isn't going to stop someone in their tracks, but deployed at a socially fitting time it's normal, friendly, and perfectly functional as a conversation starter.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:07 PM
1

So this would be more like being aloof
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:03 PM
1

i completely agree, but don't get stuck in ruts. always attempt to broaden horizons when the opportunity presents. but if it's something you won't compromise on that's respectable.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:02 PM
5

'hey how's it going' doesn't let me down.
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:49 PM
2

our ex clearly is an asshole/manipulator, cut ties with her and move on lol the ex probably just wanted to fuck. that's fine behaviour and normal. i thought his current partner was a lunatic she overly clingy, and throws mini temper tantrums when I tell her “no”, mmm normal stuff. She comes to the conclusion that my ex is only calling me cause she wants to fuck. this is fucking weird because up until that point, everything the ex had said did actually indicate danger. she was right, but i get th…
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:46 PM
8

not really. social proof is a simple concept but extremely important. at it's core it's just a bunch of people who will vouch for you being normal. that's it. basically all men are a physical threat to women so naturally women are very concerned with whether you will abide by the social contract of not being a danger to others. the quickest and most effective way to do that is to hang out with a lot of people. hanging out with someone is staking your reputation by association that the person is …
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:38 PM
2

i think your gif game is outstanding and i'm honoured that you'd deploy these skills in support of me arguing with weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:29 PM
3

yes everyone was very impressed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:23 PM
1

balance is important. you've got male dominated hobbies that don't provide much of a social network, so maybe it might be worth dropping some dead weight and getting into something that broadens your horizons.
/r/seduction09/10/22 05:18 PM
1

go in peace my son.
/r/seduction09/10/22 04:11 PM
1

already did that here literally none of this has anything to do with anything i've said
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:10 PM
1

cougs first. virginity later.
/r/seduction09/10/22 04:10 PM
1

good luck.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:56 PM
1

lol it's amazing that all you dweebs know exactly one logical fallacy and it's always ad-hom, but you have no idea how an ad-hom differs from an insult. it's embarrassing to behold.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:54 PM
1

I think I complicate it alot in my head so I dont end up sending the wrong text which makes me anxious this is a common problem. you're not alone. it's why i suggested radical honesty. even if he said 'sorry, i'm not interested' at least you'd know and could move on. either way it stops it being complicated. i'd probably leave out the bit about meeting up in person if he's in another country, but i think the rest would still work.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:53 PM
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alright. i've saved your post. that'll remind me to let you know when it's out. don't lose hope, keep working every day to build a better you, for you, not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:51 PM
2

you guys sound really young, so i think my advice might be outdated. if i were you tho, i'd message him saying 'sorry about the lack of contact. truth was i was nervous about texting with you because i like you. don't suppose you'd like to go to a diner and drink a milkshake from two separate straws with me?'
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:48 PM
2

i get it
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:45 PM
1

absolutely. getting fit is a good idea because it's really good for you. i should be fit, i'm just lazy atm. we shouldn't do things because women might like it. i went to the gym because i liked it, and i liked looking good. do what makes you happy man. i'm thinking about releasing some videos soon about the way i see things on these subjects. i hope you find them one day and get something out of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:40 PM
3

literally none of this has anything to do with anything i've said which is the argument standard i'd expect from someone who needs to passionately defend evo psych as a discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:38 PM
3

just don't engage with it. i do not believe it's based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:37 PM
3

historically, men shit in a pot and tossed it out the window. also, it's really cute you think virginity was rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:37 PM
0

he's been flirting in a way I am not used you're miscommunicating here. I try to tone it down in the same time not cut it as I dont want to loose him. He stopped messaging me another miss here. I think he thought Im cutting him off you are completely confused. but despite all this: I dont want to loose him
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:36 PM
3

places like this are not good for confused young men. it is full of the opinions of those least qualified to hold them. glad i could provide you some comfort. i promise you, there's another way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:34 PM
1

sounds like you guys aren't particularly compatible and you're very keen to force it. well, good luck.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:31 PM
4

absolute confidence. six packs and big arms are a pantomime of confidence. i just have the real thing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:29 PM
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you are 2 years removed from the classification of 'child' and your brain won't fully develop for another three years. you are not a lost cause. so you want to be successful at the most complex interpersonal interaction we have as humans? if i were you i'd put myself in situations where i just talk to a lot of people first. baby steps.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:26 PM
2

men prefer fat women over fit ones you haven't even scrolled past a source of historical knowledge have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:24 PM
7

societal standards for beauty are dog shit. and men here aren't trying to hear this but physical attractiveness counts for very little with women. i know this because i used to be a competitive boxer with a year round six pack and built like a brick shithouse. i am now old and fat and far more successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:20 PM
1

lol if someone pointed out that i had made a massively unsubstantiated claim it would actually destroy my argument and make me re-think my position. that it does not do that to you is extremely telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:18 PM
5

sure go to the wikipedia page for it and have a read about what evo psych's actually do. it is, er, not bulletproof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:16 PM
3

the majority of men find that extremely unattractive, CITATION NEEDED
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:14 PM
1

lol that was... not strong. folding your arms, stamping your feet and declaring 'but i'm allowed to be a weirdo' is not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:13 PM
22

evo pop-psych can provide literally any result you want it to. it is an interesting field of academics with amusing uses, but it is just about as far from science as you can go and still remain under the umbrella of academia.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:12 PM
1

you know what? you're right. you should put the record straight. finish this sentence: it is really normal and reasonable to care about the number of people in your partner's sexual history because...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:07 PM
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literally uncountable. every woman likes different combinations of things. op didn't even gloss over things like fetishes. my last girlfriend was only drawn to me because i needed to take the fuel tank off my bike and replace the spark plugs out the front of her cafe. she is extremely enthusiastic about mechanically competent men. 4 billion women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:05 PM
1

women play a role in this, though not the primary one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:02 PM
0

Wanting a girl with a low N count has nothing to do with being insecure or inadequate in the sack. you're right it could be the small dick thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:02 PM
3

i've lived many years and had sex with an uncountable number of women. i swear to god i never heard of anyone being concerned with the sexual history of another adult (except for details that could impact their health) until i found the manosphere. you're right. it's possible that i just happened to miss all the normal people wringing their hands about who is fucking who but i get the feeling that i didn't and the people in here have brain problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:00 PM
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i am actually surprised how well the pokemon metaphor lines up with a healthy way of looking at dating and attraction. good shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:57 PM
0

you should probably think about diverting your mental energy to the primary roles and signal boost those ideas instead of trying to shunt blame onto women for men being dickheads and calling it persecuted masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:56 PM
2

of course not. who would insinuate such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:53 PM
2

i definitely didn't touch a nerve with you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:50 PM
2

yes, it required you to engage in a little rhetorical tactic called 'semantics'. you had to take my post to mean that the sexual history of the average person to be of no interest to anyone else anywhere, instead of taking it to mean that normal people who date and fuck do not care about it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:49 PM
10

dude. you automatically have the most fool-proof opener of all time. 'hello, im trying to learn the language, can you spare a minute to help an ignorant american?'
/r/seduction09/10/22 02:42 PM
86

this is what your brain becomes if you get all your information about what women desire from lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:41 PM
4

youtube with 6k views is not persuasive. 13 upvote reddit post with the comments kicking the op's ass is not persuasive. academics study fascism, racism, misogyny, and body counts. all terrible. the news outlet i never heard of published that in 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:34 PM
8

ok. if you're not having sex, but you really, really want to, you might eventually recognise it as a poison chalice. you're getting sex, but you will be really, really bad at it. instead of admitting that, you pretend like a person's worth is equal to the number of different genitals they've seen which of course makes you very valuable. basically it's this entire sub in a microcosm. weak men making excuses for their lazy social decisions and general inadequacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:29 PM
0

again, if you typed words into google you'd learn instead of being wrong. women are starting to significantly outpace men in educational qualifications and subject matter authority in countries working towards gender equality. women won't be 'marrying up' when they are up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:16 PM
1

no, scenes written for a television show do not prove hypergamy. or anything. hypergamy is disappearing in western countries because feminism is killing it. if you actually typed words into google scholar rather than thinking about marvel cartoons you may have learned that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:13 PM
2

if women won't fuck me.... i should shame them in my hug box so they might have less sex.... that will show.... many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:10 PM
1

i wonder if this is something to do with when the usa watched as thousands of homosexual men died of aids because god wanted it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:08 PM
7

lol i know right. it would be so easy for someone to post an example of normal people discussing it seriously. that would totally own me and i would look like a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:57 PM
1

just go to any subreddit about online dating that is full of actually normal people and get the gist of what women think to a message of 'hey'. it might be actually worse than saying nothing. think of it as a creative writing challenge. literally the only thing i had to go on for a woman's bio was her star sign. little bit of lateral thinking and i came up with something hilarious and interesting. experiment.
/r/seduction09/10/22 01:54 PM
13

luckily, there is no n-count double standard. it only exists on message boards like this exclusively among the people who do not have sex. it is made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:49 PM
3

i guarantee just by hanging around here you have onboarded some perspectives that aren't healthy. i couldn't imagine hanging out here for fun.
/r/seduction09/10/22 12:30 PM
3

because there are 4 billion women on earth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:19 AM
2

every woman is different. the things they talk about and find important will clue you in a little, but i just found it easier to try and be the best man i could be and the girls that like my version of 'best' will organise themselves.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:57 AM
4

ha! well if you accomplish that, you have my respect.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:54 AM
6

Not only was this comment funny it gave me so much confidence. And thanks bro <3
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:45 AM
6

you never did. i was just commenting on its nature. it's not necessarily that your actions will have a positive effect so much as it is trusting your ability to respond to any situation and acting in accordance with your identity and values.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:43 AM
1

to get a woman to take the lead you have to be attractive to her and then continue to be attractive to her so that she gives up on my stupid ass ever doing anything and takes the lead herself.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:42 AM
2

he doesn't need to do anything. women want sex as well and will take the lead. especially in this case.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:34 AM
22

ah. a curve. that's not good. myself, i have to stand about 30 feet away before unzipping. it unrolls like a fire hose and smashes against her leg with the sound like you just threw a fish at a wall. that's the only way to do it. your dick is fine homie. EDIT: oh and stay away from places like this. the last people you want to get advice about women from is a subforum full of people who are unsuccessful with women. you're in high school and killing it. you donn't need this place.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:33 AM
12

yes dude. i'm dead serious when i say forget about sex, and it will happen at you.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:26 AM
9

confidence comes slowly and can't be faked in my experience.
/r/seduction09/10/22 10:25 AM
7

that scene from donnie brasco where they start listing all the meanings of the wise guy term 'forget about it', only it's for a woman saying 'fuck off'
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:55 AM
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i am not the top 10%. will never be. i'd go as far as to say the wide majority of women are not attracted to me. because 4 billion is a big number, i have still been able to be well satisfied and rampantly successful. out of the op's list, i had the following when i got laid semi-regularly at the start: Laugh and smile during conversations (it will make them feel that you are a fun guy but also something secretive about you, which will attract even more) this, but because i liked the people i wa…
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:05 AM
2

treating them with basic respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:52 AM
1

i am not the top 10%. will never be. i'd go as far as to say the wide majority of women are not attracted to me. because 4 billion is a big number, i have still been able to be well satisfied and rampantly successful. out of the op's list, i had the following when i got laid semi-regularly at the start: Laugh and smile during conversations (it will make them feel that you are a fun guy but also something secretive about you, which will attract even more) this, but because i liked the people i wa…
/r/seduction09/10/22 08:50 AM
1

The content of the post in the OP seem to imply being turned on by and maybe even jacking off. what the fuck are you people reading?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:45 AM
10

it's this coupled with life experience imo.
/r/seduction09/10/22 08:23 AM
31

oh my god. dude you are on-track to fuck up the unfuckupable. sex will happen at you so long as you just relax yourself and don't be weird. put it all out of your head. don't anticipate sex. don't think about it. behave like sex wasn't on the table.
/r/seduction09/10/22 08:20 AM
0

you seem to have confused 'accept' with 'will jack off to', and it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:17 AM
3

i think the study speaks for itself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:15 AM
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none of these people will say anything more substantial than their opinion. if you want to learn about broader trends, or absolutely anything that may apply to more than just these people specifically, do not watch this video.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:01 AM
3

you see the world differently when you comprehend that this weird, lanky geek could beat the shit out of any muscle monster. there's a difference between looking scary and being scary. do it.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:52 AM
0

zero. right here: Not sure why anyone can’t cold approach. i clearly state why i don't cold approach.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:43 AM
-1

ah. i see your problem. you don't care at all about how women feel. your brain literally deleted that part out of my story.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:36 AM
1

all of the questions except the last two: i talk to them like normal people for as long as the conversation naturally lasts and see if they become attracted to me. i can't give a specific example of talking to someone like a normal person. my appearance is extremely alarming to men and women. call it whatever. uncountable.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:31 AM
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since you're so persistent. this post explains why i literally cannot cold approach and why making sure women are comfortable is a priority of mine. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/xsb8rr/psa_my_attractiveness_to_women_increases_over/
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:23 AM
3

no, they aren't. that's made up and has no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:21 AM
1

ha! describing this as simping is brutal and i will be deploying that comparison, but i think you over-explained it. personally i don't hit on a woman until they flirt with me. i'll just talk to them when situationally appropriate with no unspoken intentions until they flirt. so i guess i can vouch for your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:20 AM
3

that's up to the grown man imo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:14 AM
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i have lived many years with an uncountable number of sexual partners and i swear to god that the first time i ever heard of an adult thinking about the sex other adults have had was when i found the manosphere. so really it's all just absolutely hysterical to me. this is the pill debate equivalent of who'd win between superheroes in that it is completely detached from reality and really passionately argued.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:13 AM
1

if i'm insulting myself at the same time i don't see why others should take special offence.
/r/seduction09/10/22 03:08 AM
6

i think the onus is on the 30 year old man to change. what he has been doing is not working and if he is dissatisfied with the results he has to change. it's cool if he just doesn't want to he just has to accept the consequences of that just like every other adult. it's not that i'm harsher on older guys, i just expect more of them when it comes to being proactive and taking responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:07 AM
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thank you for the corrected link. it does not debunk anything that was said, and in fact takes the time to back it up: Whether a spouse initiates the separation because of the existence of perceived attractive alternatives, or feels coerced into leaving because of the untenable behaviour of the other partner, makes the interpretation of both ‘leaver’ or ‘left’ and the reasons given for the marital breakup somewhat equivocal. Kitson with Holmes (1992:117) note: ‘Some changes in perceptions of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:53 AM
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the study link is dead and the summary is a garbled mess that absolutely does not debunk anything said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:34 AM
6

post your sickest fanfic about who wins the gender wars
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/22 02:30 AM
0

if it is not an equal exchange, there is probably something illegal happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:28 AM
3

my thoughts are basically that you should provide a source for that ridiculous claim
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:27 AM
0

that's cool i'm just letting you know it's not playing hard to get and you're likely doing or saying off-putting things.
/r/seduction08/10/22 10:58 PM
3

they are not playing hard to get. no one in 2022 does this unless they got their entire concept of dating from books published in 1912. they are not that into you. if it's happening repeatedly i'd bet a house it's something you're doing.
/r/seduction08/10/22 10:54 PM
2

that would be a weird thing to do since saying that would open them up to a raft of litigation were it to be repeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 10:51 PM
2

were you personally harmed by it? is it attributable directly to feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:19 PM
1

i swear to god if this isn't proof that if you just go outside enough you will fall ass-backwards into sex then honestly idk
/r/seduction08/10/22 07:39 PM
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what the fuck? dude ask your partner not some fucking dorks online.
/r/seduction08/10/22 07:07 PM
3

you are aware that by saying you wish to return to a time when false accusations were not taken as seriously you are also saying you wish to return to a time when all accusations were not taken as seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:01 PM
1

zero concern.
/r/seduction08/10/22 06:57 PM
5

thinking about crying because women won't fuck me and then crying that women are fucking too much and lolling
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:55 PM
3

being falsely accused of very bad things has always damaged your reputation regardless of feminism's existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:54 PM
3

feminism does not encourage women to falsely accuse people of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:40 PM
1

same, because i'll easily refute it and add it to the list for the next time i ask
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:08 PM
1

i think you like the guy and it's clouding your judgement, but it happens so good luck.
/r/seduction08/10/22 05:07 PM
1

i made no judgements, just offered some food for thought to anyone considering taking that specific piece of advice i quoted.
/r/seduction08/10/22 04:44 PM
1

no, men aren't intimidated by you. this one is, because he is extremely insecure and has a penchant for childish games that no adult should have to tolerate.
/r/seduction08/10/22 04:40 PM
1

i wasn't commenting on his post at all, just that specific piece of advice you gave.
/r/seduction08/10/22 04:36 PM
3

you're free to avoid reality if you want, but try not to get mad at it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 04:35 PM
1

The status of your job is far more important than the salary of it. nope. from the same study: Income and occupational status did not affect platonic attraction, and occupational status did not affect romantic attraction. the status of your job does literally nothing. Unsolicited sexual advances were considered more disturbing and more discomforting when perpetrated by an unattractive opposite sex colleague than when perpetrated by an attractive opposite sex colleague you should read your own st…
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 04:31 PM
1

Don't listen to what she says if you're going to do this, make sure you think about the myriad of extremely damaging ways this could legitimately land you in a fuckload of trouble and accept the potential consequences.
/r/seduction08/10/22 03:57 PM
0

i will fetch my larger scales
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:32 PM
3

because it is full on bug-fuck insane to seriously accuse women, all 4 billion of them, of straying from god's light. and i'd like to be around not insane people if possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:31 PM
2

ah fuck it. you took too long. here's some evidence. Income had a positive effect on romantic attraction only for those participants who were presented with males having socially desirable personality traits, suggesting that college women only consider men's income after personality criteria have been met.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 03:30 PM
4

it's based on a book called 'the war against boys' which tries to blame feminism specifically for boys lagging behind in school which is impressive because of quotes like this: A schools inquiry in 1868 commented, "Girls come to you to learn; boys have to be driven." feminism is doing time travelling harm to boys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:23 PM
1

you first. send me the 1 hour date. Lmao the ol’ “Causation does not equal Correlation” comeback, nice. it's not a comeback, it's agreeing with you. unless you didn't mean to say correlation. or you said correlation but didn't want anyone to remind you of what correlation actually means.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 03:18 PM
6

i wish you were joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:15 PM
1

all i'm suggesting is maybe don't tell other men to disregard how women might be feeling.
/r/seduction08/10/22 03:15 PM
7

ooo. what's the root cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:09 PM
1

1 hour long coffee dates this is still not a long time, but it's the only one in the list which isn't just objectively looks with nothing else to go on. so link away, i'd love to read it. studies that show a correlation between a woman’s happiness in relationship and their relationship height gap, there’s even studies that show a correlation for a woman’s willing to flirt with other men and break up with their partner just by measuring how much more attractive the woman is compared to the man. d…
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 03:08 PM
10

Putting out another call for anyone to tell me how feminism has caused them harm personally. So far I've had people try to argue that feminism stopped them from getting married (turned out feminism wasn't responsible for his personal development) and that feminism stopped him doing so well in school (complete inability to accept responsibility for his school grades, along with no link between feminism and any specific harm. literally a conspiracy theory.).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:57 PM
1

sounds like the perfect solution my friend. godspeed.
/r/seduction08/10/22 02:45 PM
1

that's your call man. as far as i can tell you feel bad because of something you think she might be feeling. sounds weird to me but you could always try asking her about it so you can stop feeling bad.
/r/seduction08/10/22 02:39 PM
1

if it's making you feel bad, why do you want to keep doing it?
/r/seduction08/10/22 02:35 PM
1

are you lying to this woman op? if not, what exactly are you feeling bad about?
/r/seduction08/10/22 02:31 PM
1

haha that sure is a lot of justifying your behaviour. do you really want me to find another study of women experiencing those discomforts at pubs and clubs? k Such experiences are reportedly becoming a "normalized" element of a night out for young women (Christmas & Seymour, 2014;Kavanaugh, 2013), with North American research identifying that 75% of 153 19-to 29-year-olds had been touched or unrelentingly pursued when in bars and clubs (Graham et al., 2017).
/r/seduction08/10/22 01:58 PM
255

surprisingly solid advice. i wish more people would consider this: I decided to not focus on girls and flirting explicitly for ~6 months because I needed to “get grounded” first. it is insane to me that people want to succeed at the most complex social interaction we do as humans on a regular basis with no fundamentals, yet the predominant advice is to march up to strange women and use lines they read on the internet with the goal of sex.
/r/seduction08/10/22 01:44 PM
7

Ahahaha never had that happen to me you wouldn't see it if it had :-) Are you saying women don’t have agency to leave a social interaction in public? nah, i'm saying that this is a thing: Our results across two studies reveal a consistent pattern: It appears that initiators of romantic advances fail to appreciate the difficult position they put targets in. Specifically, suitors underestimate the discomfort targets experience when rejecting an advance. Further, they fail to recognize all of the w…
/r/seduction08/10/22 01:31 PM
2

i lost you the moment i started calling you a dork who is wrong about everything.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 12:25 PM
6

hahaha this is all wrong and insane. if you think not giving a shit about how the person you are trying to pick up is feeling is good advice then lmao when i worked as a bouncer i learned about 'the look'. it's understood by nearly all women in that country and i've heard of women who are strangers responding to it and helping. i have never met a man who has heard of it, so it's pretty covert. the look means 'please help me get away from this guy'. once it was pointed out to me, i see it all the…
/r/seduction08/10/22 12:25 PM
2

the only studies i've seen where physical attractiveness has been observed as the dominant factor of attraction has been from OLD and speed dating tests. OLD is literally just photos of people. speed dating you have essentially no time for any other trait to create attraction. if i went and got you evidence, what would it take to change your mind?
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 12:18 PM
0

oh so you're saying you were drafted AND fought in a war? it is very rare that conscripts see active duty because they are very shitty soldiers for the most part. no anecdote, an expert analyses maritime law. you're just wrong and pathetic. women get custody most of the time because both parents agree to it. that isn't reverse sexism. the duluth model is an intervention program operating in some places. they have absolutely no impact on whether someone gets a fair trial.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 12:13 PM
0

nah i didn't get drafted. served though. i wonder what horrors you had to face that left you feeling so aggrieved that others didn't have to go through it too. Are you also gonna claim women aren't the first to be rescued in any emergency? yeah, because the titanic crashed a billion years ago. now, men don't do that shit. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/jan/16/costa-concordia-women That they don't get preferential treatment in the court system? sort of. …
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 11:55 AM
2

it's called subtext, and honestly i'm not sure it can be taught like a lesson. i learned it by just being around women and listening to them.
/r/seduction08/10/22 11:42 AM
3

well, you could increase your social awareness so that you are capable of knowing whether a woman will reject your advances or not and then you can just not ask or wait for her attraction to grow before asking. or you could stop assigning pass / fail labels to interpersonal interactions. or both.
/r/seduction08/10/22 11:40 AM
1

i think it's extremely pathetic to claim the hardships of being drafted even though you're a 'man' who has done no such thing. also, 9/10 women on onlyfans earn less than minimum wage a month. seems like another really pathetic thing to be upset over. EDIT: manly man with legitimate grievances blocked me for not letting him be pathetic unopposed.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 11:37 AM
4

it's harder for a 20-40 year old man with testosterone levels equivalent to that of an 80 year old man to get on TRT than it is for an adolescent girl. you can google trt clinics across the usa that will say your testosterone, whatever it is, is too low and prescribe a man trt without ever having to visit the clinic in person. adolescents have to do this: If your child is under 18 and may have gender dysphoria, they'll usually be referred to the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) at the …
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 08:46 AM
2

the easiest lies to spot on this sub are men who claim women have laughed in their faces and humiliated them upon turning down their genteel advances.
/r/seduction07/10/22 10:02 AM
1

are women reacting negatively? that's a 'shit test', and the alpha thing to do is to escalate the behaviour, because not doing that will mean you aren't learning how to socialise. if either of you actually interacted with women in the real world i'd be really concerned that this post is suggesting that when women react negatively to you, you escalate that behaviour. obviously though you're just jokingly talking about being a sex criminal.
/r/seduction07/10/22 09:57 AM
5

it is really interesting that you equate socialising to inserting yourself into the lives of strange women hoping they'll fuck you.
/r/seduction07/10/22 09:45 AM
2

yeah i actually made a post explaining it if you're interested. cold approaching doesn't work for people with my physical handicaps https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/xsb8rr/psa_my_attractiveness_to_women_increases_over/
/r/seduction07/10/22 04:51 AM
3

nah man you misunderstand me. i do not need any more sex in my life. ive been wildly successful without ever cold approaching.
/r/seduction07/10/22 04:25 AM
8

this is so fucking weird. no man. i don't stop doing things i enjoy because it's not a good place to hit on chicks.
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:10 AM
3

i have no memory of a woman ever 'testing' me in any way keep escalating even if shes dull faced after she looks at you hard and smiles? you will be pushing towards a sexual harassment / assault charge. what the absolute fuck.
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:05 AM
0

this is a perfect snapshot of this place. the people who hang out here would rather torment a sad old drunk dude for feeling successful for the first time in his life than be given the magic key to dating like they've always wanted.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:22 PM
10

lol you really fucking suck at the concept of socialising.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:18 PM
1

i've never cold approached in my life so i'm disappointed i can't join the circlejerk
/r/seduction06/10/22 10:42 PM
33

people can't really argue against that you see. they can downvote, madly, but they can't type 'nuh uh chicks actually like men who hold pity parties with other lonely men and blame women'
/r/seduction06/10/22 08:21 PM
2

haha. Again, massive emphasis on potentially creepy features.
/r/seduction06/10/22 07:25 PM
4

first of all, there's no time limit dude. and i'm pretty sure i said that every woman was different. it's kind of pointless. unless you want to know a few of those 'broadly attractive' traits in which case just type it into google where according to this women find older men, beards, selflessness, a powerful first impression, and a good laugh attractive. it's all just words man. start paying attention to the women you're talking to.
/r/seduction06/10/22 07:11 PM
3

my advice would be to leave all this behind and go live your truth man. but like i say do what you feel.
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:41 PM
2

hahaha more interesting than axe throwing? i'm the one going for coffee on first dates. i should be posting your thread. watching how people succeed or fail at activities can be extremely instructive as to their real personality, so enjoy that, but man you're throwing axes. the date is fun. even if i kidnapped you and replaced you with a cardboard cutout she'd still be on the phone to her girlfriends that night talking about throwing axes.
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:39 PM
1

hahaha man cougs are now my peers so my information will be way out of date but i'll try. there always used to be one place in just about every town, usually a kind of shitty bar, where on a particular night of the week it becomes the 'grab a granny' theme park. the cougs that were there and your bretheren are usually all on the same page so it becomes effortless. if you've got a cool uncle or something ask him where people his age hang out when they're chilling and hit up when they party. have …
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:28 PM
1

i'm not a fortune teller homie. but i'll be in the corner waving a flag and yelling 'go cougs'
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:22 PM
1

why will block 03 - cougar king
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:19 PM
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probably not a gf, but you could easily apply for the occasionally advertised dick on demand gig and she may take you up.
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:17 PM
2

do what you like, but it will do you nothing but harm. the people in these subs are often very bad people. the ideas in these subs are often very bad ideas. you are who you hang out with.
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:10 PM
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Can you please tell me how to do this? How does she became attracted to you over time? do you know what women are attracted to? the things that make them feel good when they're around a person who is special? every woman is different, so the correct answers change endlessly. but they will straight up tell you, if you listen. while chatting to them, the things that are important to them will come up. the types of things she is passionate about will give solid clues on the type of man they dig. fo…
/r/seduction06/10/22 06:09 PM
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you bring up a couple of solid topics here. i think fight gyms should be recommended over a lifting gym. the difference in self confidence is just stratospheres apart. friendship circles are nearly never mentioned. they are absolutely invaluable. good shit in general.
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:57 PM
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look dude, if the woman is looking for a man, there's nothing you can do or say. it'll come with age. that said, plenty of older women don't mind a young guy for the night. hell one of the best nights of my life was getting dragged back to her place by a cougar and properly shown what's what. be careful that you may walk out to the living room to get a water hungover as fuck the next morning and you may have to say hello to her teenage son playing xbox. he may be chill as fuck and ask if you wan…
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:54 PM
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not really. as an introvert i go to massive, days long festivals. i just recharge after these things.
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:48 PM
1

acting like you want to be friends when you want to fuck. acting like you're after long term relationships when you just want to fuck. pretending to be someone else.
/r/seduction06/10/22 05:48 PM
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do you mean an introvert? or a socially disabled person? an introvert is an entirely normal person. they just need some time alone to recharge every couple of days if possible.
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:51 PM
2

godspeed young man. go earn your stripes or whatever. hope you get out of it what you want to get out of it.
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:43 PM
0

the other day i pointed out that a 20 year old had seen nothing, done nothing, and accomplished nothing. of course they weren't going to compete well against 28 year olds. this absolutely basic and obviously true fact drew a frankly embarrassing amount of replies from dickheads convinced that living an interesting life has no bearing on your attractiveness to women. it's really sad that they think this, but you can't make someone understand what life experience will do for you. for example, i li…
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:34 PM
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this is just absolutely psychotic to me. if a man wrote a post about his girl doing this to him, the righteous indignation would be unbearable. if any of my mates started telling me that he got bored and started fucking with his missus' head i'd tell him to sort himself out because that shit's embarrassing.
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:25 PM
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I approach women with the intent of getting to know them this is my entire game. however with me the more a woman gets to know me the more attracted they become. eventually they will start flirting with me and the sexual tension can rise. if you are not becoming more attractive to women the longer you spend around them, you should find out why.
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:14 PM
1

you asked, my answer is correct. you can believe it or not.
/r/seduction06/10/22 01:01 PM
0

hahaha brother you're spot on there. i was actually reading zizek in the hopes of finding something to help steelman their position but instead it was a philosophical smoking gun for the shittier parts of pickup. zizek owns. problematic. still owns.
/r/seduction06/10/22 12:42 PM
1

as far as i can tell, she likes you a lot, valued your time together in an ldr, worried about losing the bond you had by making it physical, you left, she realised that in order to be with you at all she has to take the risk and now wants to meet up forreal. she likes you a big bunch and you're considering just fucking her off? this might be the first time i'm glad someone asked something here.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:30 AM
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huh. i can see how this makes sense until the second you think about it at all. you don't need to be a prick for women to respect you. they don't need asshole energy to counteract the simp energy. literally anything that isn't simping will do. including genuine kindness. really weird how the pissbabies who think they need to be pricks to keep women in line just angrily downvote my comment and keep their fucking mouth shut. big men.
/r/seduction06/10/22 11:26 AM
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yeah that's been pretty much the standard of response. impotent downvotes through teary eyes.
/r/seduction06/10/22 10:26 AM
1

you're going to be really mad when you learn i posted a second thread addressing your precious cliche and apparently i did such a good job that none of you mewling pussies felt the need to try and argue with it.
/r/seduction06/10/22 10:13 AM
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this sounds a lot like my style and i do believe i've perfected it. as such, i think you're ready to drop this shit and never think about it again. i've just got one more lesson for you. have pride in kindness. there is nothing weak or emasculating about it. you value kindness and you put that into action at all levels of human relationships. you're being truer to yourself than 99% of the guys here, and you're gaining friends and sexual partners and happiness. next time someone suggests it's bad…
/r/seduction06/10/22 08:44 AM
1

thanks for making all the points my op made just imo much worse.
/r/seduction06/10/22 03:12 AM
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so he was a much older dude providing class a intoxicants to young cosplay women and then inviting them home? yea i have no idea why people would think he's a creep.
/r/seduction06/10/22 03:10 AM
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lol sure thing
/r/seduction06/10/22 03:08 AM
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i even put it in bold. And remember, this does not mean 51% definitely find endomorph's creepy, it's just the body type they associate with creepiness when forced to think about it. so someone says 'imagine a creepy guy' and then they shove 3 body types infront of her and say 'which is closest to your imaginationi?' and 51% picked endomorph. that's it. their imaginary creep was an endomorph often.
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:24 AM
1

a lot of people will say yes because it's important to them to believe that.
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:20 AM
1

just re-read what i wrote again.
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:17 AM
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lol the fame and fortune of a marxist philosopher
/r/seduction06/10/22 02:16 AM
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i'm not a mind reader, and neither are you. her intentions are irrelevant.
/r/seduction06/10/22 12:13 AM
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i don't know what models is, but he better be a massive fucking legend to tell zizek he's wrong. zizek looks like a hobo with all of the drug problems and here's a photo of him with his third wife - an argentine model. https://system-of-knowledge.fandom.com/wiki/Slavoj_Zizek
/r/seduction05/10/22 11:51 PM
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try this. walk up hello, my name is x, what's yours? well hername, i don't suppose you'd like to get a coffee next time our days off line up? nothing fancy dude. she likes you. you could even ditch the names if you're sure you're picking up what she's putting down.
/r/seduction05/10/22 11:48 PM
2

same that's why my answer would be cagey and i'd ask why, because i'm like 80% certain im cancelling that date.
/r/seduction05/10/22 11:31 PM
1

i will, for fun, just lie online. i hope there aren't other people like me or else you could be taking any old shit for truth.
/r/seduction05/10/22 11:00 PM
1

lol
/r/seduction05/10/22 10:57 PM
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Zizek hahaha when i found myself reading zizek to steelman their position i knew this was uphill. Can you link the studies my b. will update the op
/r/seduction05/10/22 10:54 PM
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dude you were a rebound, and that window has passed. assume she's not interested.
/r/seduction05/10/22 10:22 PM
1

jesus man leave this one. her show flopped she got embarrassingly drunk and took it out on you. she must be mortified. but for real though, don't accept that behaviour. leave her, what she did wasn't right.
/r/seduction05/10/22 10:16 PM
1

do you want me to sign a stat-dec?
/r/seduction05/10/22 10:12 PM
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well let's compare that with me, a certified sex haver: i do masturbate, watch porn, drink, and smoke. i don't exercise. i eat whatever. i'm fine with my height. no skin care. get haircuts that suit me. wear cologne that suits me. have a style i developed and love. i ain't doing shit to earn more. dick size g2g. i can't remember when i read for fun last. i don't do team activities. i don't game. results is more sex than i could ever want. do you know what that tells me man? it doesn't tell me yo…
/r/seduction05/10/22 10:09 PM
1

nailed it.
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:12 PM
1

yeah you're definitely not the only guy that skulks around these communities waiting for an opportunity to wail about how there's nothing they can do because they're just too ugly.
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:11 PM
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i think you're fantasising about people being mean to you and getting angry at it
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:04 PM
2

yep that's definitely another way
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:51 PM
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that's a weird question. i'd say something ambiguous like 'whenever life gives me enough time' and to be honest i'd probably ask why she asked.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:16 PM
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nah dude. he met her before all of that. and when he started mma it was a freak show, his weight division didn't even exist, and the closest one that did paid their fighters fuck all. he was paid 50k when he won the ufc championship. she stuck with him doing the stupidest hobby ever and earning so little from it he had to work full time in a warehouse.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:44 PM
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https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-one-championship-demetrious-johnson-says-in-ring-success-also-wife-s-victory
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:40 PM
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doesn't need that. i could show you a bald, 5'3 minority who married a beautiful woman while he was working in a warehouse full time right now.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:38 PM
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that would definitely fall under 'behaving abnormally' and you're absolutely right.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:25 PM
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the key word is 'unusually'. you're allowed to be quiet. just be an engaged listener.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:20 PM
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i am being truly sincere when i type this. i genuinely would stake money on the fact that there is literally nothing you could do or say that will make this person take you back.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:19 PM
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i write that because in your own post her last message to you was 'tl;dr' and then in your own words: So i realised she lost respect towards me. she has no respect for you, and doesn't want to acknowledge anything you're saying. you should leave her alone.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:09 PM
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it sucks man but it's good you're willing to learn from it. also, consider ditching the teasing. people are really sensitive about the strangest things. you don't know what buttons you might be pushing.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:02 PM
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leave this poor woman alone. she does not want to be in a relationship with you.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:00 PM
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for you dude, you have to start with actual professional mental health treatment. your self-esteem / self-concept etc are just absolutely fucked, and as such it would be cruel to force you into these sorts of complex social situations.
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:56 PM
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yeah i'm 99% sure it's your mental too. some guys just need to see the physical results saying 'GOODTOGO' before they'll relax a bit.
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:49 PM
1

sorry dude you're done. the single best response in terms of being a decent man would be to say 'i am extremely sorry, i understand why you're hurt. i've learned from this and will be better moving forward. take care'
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:46 PM
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i always liked 'hi, how's it going' but the answer is however your autist self feels most comfortable. using lines and moves from another guy defeats the point. you're looking for a girl that likes you. not you doing an impression of another guy.
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:29 PM
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porn, the internet, and male-dominated spaces will leave an inexperienced guy riddled with anxiety about performing during sex. here's what's going on: it's either physical, or mental. if possible, visit a doctor, get them to investigate possible causes of erectile dysfunction (they'll check hormone levels etc). if it's not physical, it's mental. and this can be overcome in 2 ways that i know about. you could ask a doctor for some viagra or equivalent. it's like a placebo for your brain. you kno…
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:11 PM
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... if he is not interested in dating you then he's behaving like a massive, massive weirdo. have fun you crazy kids.
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:06 PM
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the magic's gone man, she's not into you no more. sorry.
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:58 PM
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yeah like i say a large number of dudes really need to believe the ugly = creepy thing and i just wanted to focus on things that can definitely be addressed. like behaviour.
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:46 PM
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it can be hard out there. well, you know you're looking for something that's quite unusual. you say so yourself. so you really shouldn't be letting it get you down that there's a lot of people who aren't about that. you're looking for someone special. someone you get along with easily. who shares your values. that in itself is rare. it's not going to be an easy and quick search. that's the truth. and you're 22. your brain isn't fully developed yet. there's no rush. don't compromise, don't be dis…
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:31 PM
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sorry dude, you met a bad person who treated you disrespectfully. don't contact her again because this shit is heinous. you did nothing wrong and you didn't deserve this.
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:14 PM
1

know how to dress for the club you're going to. it'll be a bad look to be turned away for fashion reasons. have a few drinks if you drink, or if other things are more your speed than do your usual. do not overdo it. conversations are difficult with loud music, so make sure your body language is saying you're having fun and vibing. when the girls go on the floor dancing, go with them and have fun. if you can't dance, do objectively ridiculous shit like the john travolta dance from pulp fiction or…
/r/seduction05/10/22 02:12 PM
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what makes an interaction creepy or charming is how it is recieved by the beholder. i mean, yeah absolutely. if you're aware of how you look and come across to people, you won't come across as creepy.
/r/seduction05/10/22 01:29 PM
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sure. if you're the handsomest dude on earth, probably don't worry fixing yourself. if you're not though, maybe try the three things i put up.
/r/seduction05/10/22 01:16 PM
1

dude you got it. she says no, your crush leaves you alone and you can be friends with her or whatever. if she says yes, good shit. it's win/win.
/r/seduction05/10/22 01:07 PM
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huh? nah man you need to ask her on a date. you've got a crush on her. you need to find out if she reciprocates. so don't ask for her number or if she wants to walk to class, ask her if she would go on a date with you to get some coffee or whatever and if she says yes get her number.
/r/seduction05/10/22 01:00 PM
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mathematically just about anything. depending on your definition, a girl with daddy problems could describe like a billion women. all of them have the potential to respond uniquely to stimulus.
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:45 PM
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i'll be straight with you dude, i have never personally seen a dude moon after a chick and actually land her. it might happen, but in all my years i've never seen it. you should not have crushes on people you do not know, and who do not know you. any interaction you have is already weighted, and you're the one with everything to lose. you'll come across nervous and strange, and that's hard to make a good impression with. if you believe i'm wrong, stop making excuses and hit her up after class. i…
/r/seduction05/10/22 12:42 PM
4

i have never met so many subject matter experts on young women anywhere in my life.
/r/seduction05/10/22 11:48 AM
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i doubt you and your female workmates see and hear a stranger's moves at a bar the same way, so that's not uncommon.
/r/seduction05/10/22 11:22 AM
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no. if women are attracted to me, or grow attracted to me after hanging out for a while, they'll start flirting. i just respond to the flirting and bam sexual chemistry. 'friendzoning' does not affect me. most women are not attracted to me at all. so they were never in play. i have never had a woman be attracted to me and then lose attraction to me. if somebody was interested but the next second they're not, you've just fucked up. you've done something to turn them off. in this community it's mo…
/r/seduction05/10/22 09:48 AM
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i understand that it's very important to a lot of dudes to believe this, but this thread isn't about that. this is about academically observable behaviours that are perceived as creepy.
/r/seduction05/10/22 09:40 AM
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sure man. i don't believe you at all but it's not like my opinion is worth more than yours so whatever.
/r/seduction05/10/22 09:00 AM
2

my first cold approach went quite well. i did like the internet instructions said and it went fine until i ran out of material and went away. i never got over the apprehensions because i hated doing it. personally i think most people would rather not have me interrupt them. so i just stopped doing it. met girls as our lives intersected naturally and talked to them normally and found much more success and inner contentedness doing this.
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:56 AM
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personally, in the gym i'm a creature of extreme routine. if possible i'll try and use the same equipment in the same order in the same place. don't know why, i just do, and i'm not the only one.
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:40 AM
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occam's razor. she was very probably just working out. not to say don't say hello or anything just pointing out she was doing exercises in a gym.
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:34 AM
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whatever you say
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:05 AM
0

wtf? dude put it in the trash god damn if they wanted it they'd have messaged you.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:50 AM
3

lol yeah 18-23 year olds definitely don't want to date 28 year old full grown men with careers, money, and life experience. they don't care about.... status?
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:47 AM
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cool man, throw me the science and i'll make a whole post about how the science isn't saying that.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:46 AM
2

shit, do both.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:44 AM
6

Hahaha alright man I can't force you to believe that people who have accomplished more things are more highly sought after in dating. Chill.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:44 AM
1

lmao we all can't be as good looking as you. for mere mortals like me, i really recommend being an interesting person.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:36 AM
2

i know you're not trying to hear this, but i'll tell you something true. being interesting is extremely attractive.
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:25 AM
2

Lol so 20 year olds don’t get laid? literally wrote the opposite. some 20 year olds that are very good with women so maybe chill out and actually read what was written? i mean this: Age isn’t really a good excuse nor will things get better with age. is just ridiculous. imagine identical twins go on a speed date with the same girl. one of them went to university, works as an accountant, and has climbed kiliminjaro. the other one has played wow from 16yo to present. who will get the girl? if you a…
/r/seduction05/10/22 07:20 AM
2

I usually treat girls im into like a friend and hope they like me. i'd put it in a way less pathetic way than this, but this is quite close to my entire 'game' and it's wildly successful. there are some differences though, i make friends with girls with no underlying motive. i do it because a lot of them are interesting people. if you make friends with someone and you have ulterior motives, they'll find out eventually, and they won't like it.
/r/seduction05/10/22 06:25 AM
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hey dude, have you ever considered it's because you're 20? you're in the same pool as full grown men. there are some 20 year olds that are very good with women, but he has nothing on a pretty good 28 year old. you're only a couple of years removed from classification as an actual child. compared to the vast majority of men, you've seen nothing and done nothing. nearly everyone is more interesting than you until you've lived some life. so my advice would be to work on that.
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:47 AM
1

can you suggest any subreddits where there isn't hostility towards men in a first world country who want to cry openly about being oppressed?
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:59 AM
0

why? when i try to have a pity party about my non-existent oppression anywhere else everyone looks at me like i'm a pathetic loser.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:54 AM
1

Yeah man, remember that men generally don't matter anymore and we're seen as things you can basically spit on. absolute grade A masterclass in victimhood and self pity lol
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:48 AM
0

don't comment on my days old posts, you creep, or i'll report you. stop being fucking weird.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:43 AM
41

nobody uses pick up lines unironically. there are no good pickup lines.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:40 AM
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yeah who could read your posts as anything but the work of a well adjusted adult who takes responsibility for himself.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:37 AM
0

if you get much fucking weirder than going back through 2 day old posts and leaving me messages like this i'll be forced to report you. i post all the time. find a current conversation and drop in to embarrass yourself there. don't start being a weird stalker creep please.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:36 AM
2

he is extremely misunderstood. let's buy him a present!
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:32 AM
0

extremely sick burn dude.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:30 AM
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honestly man i don't care everything about the way you post is whiny, petulant, and impossible to respect. you are not a good person and the thought of you trying to drag another human down to exist alongside you is honestly starting to depress me.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:29 AM
1

i would re/introduce yourself to everyone you meet and during the pleasantries try and see if you seemed to chat very easily with any of the girls. i would then approach those girls later to get into a more involved conversation and see if there's a potential spark there. basically just go and hang out and have fun and be sociable?
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:20 AM
5

literally already did that. i spent it gaining an absurd amount of life experience setting the foundation for a very interesting, confident personality.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:14 AM
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that's weird. many men have chosen to live in the mountains as hermits. priests, monks, eunuchs, asexual people, in fact just loads of fucking people are doing really well so i think a lot of it might just be that you're an insufferable and entitled sad act.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:13 AM
0

just one more time in case it's not sinking in do not seek out women to deal with your stupid bullshit.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:02 AM
8

Personally if i'm feeling depressed it's always part of a bigger issue. 100 a fully grown man crying in a depressed heap literally and exclusively because women won't sleep with him is too pathetic a concept for this hour.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:01 AM
2

why is this bothering you? you effectively couldn't speak. i mean maybe you can find a local charades group and practice dilligently so if it happens again you'll be able to charades your way into love. besides you literally rejected her. she openly displayed interest and you blanked her. don't ignore women trying to dance with you in future. godspeed.
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:58 PM
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wow so your therapist suggested you use women like an anti-depressent? that seems very unlikely. regardless i'll suggest again that you keep your mental health problems to yourself and your inner circle and emphatically suggest that you do not go looking for a part time nurse on tinder.
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:53 PM
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your priority shouldn't be sleeping with women. it should be treating your mental illness. it would be unacceptable to me personally to treat a woman like an antidepressant. sort your mental health out, and approach women when you can bring joy into their lives, or anything positive at all.
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:31 PM
0

very likely
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:27 PM
0

yeah i mean i'm sure they were looking forward to a serious and fulfilling relationship with you
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:24 PM
6

it must be really terrible to want to have sex with people you hate.
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:11 PM
1

i'm sure it is.
/r/seduction02/10/22 07:02 PM
1

Nah cuz Russian women love men who adore their parents she deserves better than this, and you need some self respect. good luck
/r/seduction02/10/22 07:02 PM
2

yeah good reading, normal person.
/r/seduction02/10/22 06:59 PM
1

talk to her like a normal person. get to know her. apologise for lying to her and if you think there might be a spark during any of that, ask her out.
/r/seduction02/10/22 06:44 PM
2

you have wildly misread the situation imo. i thought i missed an entire paragraph during these sentences: Next week, we ran into eachother at work (we work in two separate departments). She was the one that initiated the conversation. "Hey, Vecaye! Do you remember me?", She said it a joyful tone. I stared at her in disbelief about how she said it, she sounded to friendly. "I'm good, how are you?", I replied. Her friendliness made me depressed. you need to stop hanging out here. this place has fu…
/r/seduction02/10/22 06:15 PM
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you can't. some women will just not find you attractive. losing her attraction requires you to fuck up because you had it, and now don't. it seems to happen most commonly in this community when a woman realises she's being played.
/r/seduction02/10/22 06:00 PM
3

please do not listen to that lunatic advising that you should never ask for consent for sex. it worries me that you 'really like that approach' when it contains advise that heinous. if she's ripping your clothes off, you can take that as enthusiastic consent, but if she's passive you lose absolutely nothing asking if she's all good with where this is going and i don't need to explain what you have to lose by not doing this extremely simple and considerate thing.
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:52 PM
1

I don't see what's the huge deal if girls want to have some options too. i would be horrified to be called out committing an act of blatant hypocrisy and then i click into the incel thread and deeped how broken brains can actually become.
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:14 PM
10

the real measure of your character becomes evident in the decisions you make when people aren't watching. nobody will know what you decide to do unless you make an effort to tell them. however these decisions will still shape you in some way.
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:07 PM
4

just letting everyone out there know that this is not how attraction works. sexual relationships are not a quick time event.
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:04 PM
15

Should I tell her I don’t want to be serious now or after we fuck? what type of man do you want to be? my brand of masculinity values honesty and respect highly and as such the thought of disrespecting someone by lying via omission just to fuck them without complication is kind of repugnant, but that's my brand of masculinity.
/r/seduction02/10/22 05:02 PM
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i don't understand why you're telling me about falling fertility rates. i've agreed. it's happening. but to everyone. it has no impact here. i'm pleased your pickup book doesn't seem to be an absolute pile of shit, especially when i saw the name tucker max (who is absolutely not an expert). but the actual expert's field is evo-psych. it's interesting, and aspects of it are valuable, but it is about as close to the line separating an educated guess and the loosest possible version of science sinc…
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:42 PM
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i'm apparently 80lbs overweight. boy howdy that got out of control. i said with the same skills and charm, with being healthier you'd do better probably, yes, i agree, but i literally have no need to 'do better'. i have everything i want. and i had skills at 26. what i didn't have was unassailable confidence, a thorough knowledge of how i best attract women, and i am far more skilled in conversation than i was. i was doing fine at 26. i would just kick the poor me's ass though. If you honestly t…
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:26 PM
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also i don't think it's very cool to cast aspersions upon my respect for scientific consensus and early peer reviewed suggestions. you have provided exactly no sources of any quality to support your claims, and as such was given no opportunity to behave in a way that warrants your claims. i'll forgive it though, because i know what you were really trying to say.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:13 PM
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I'm happy that that you're doing well fat and aging but pretty sure if you were fitter and biologically younger you'd do even better. i would humiliate a 26 year old me who was an active middleweight boxer and built like a brick shithouse in a competition for a woman's affections. i was surprised that age and experience could provided such amazing dating tools.
/r/seduction02/10/22 04:08 PM
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