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I’m not talking about those guys. The hardcore redpillers want to be the ONS guy that’s smashing on tinder every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:09 PM
1

Is this true for the 5’6 bald guy that has thin lips and a big nose?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:09 PM
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But those guys aren’t the guys I’m talking about. I’m talking about the hardcore redpillers that want a harem of women. Which will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:08 PM
6

He’s lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:06 PM
1

This is what rpillers tell themselves. That it’s for them and not for getting with more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:04 PM
33

Become “that guy,” that gets all the women and attention. Which will probably never happen. Only a very small percentage of men are living like that. And they didn’t “grind” their way there, they were just born like that. How many men realistically become winners? That nerdy guy from high school will most likely never become the ladies man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:09 PM
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Majority of men will struggle even with max effort. Men need to accept this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 02:08 AM
1

Yeah if you aren’t attractive physically don’t even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:17 AM
1

Such cap. There’s so many hot girls on tinder bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:17 AM
-2

Did you rly just compare red pill with nazism?
/r/ExRedPill23/08/22 07:05 PM
1

Exactly, none of these behaviours matter if you aren’t hot to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:07 AM
8

This sub is comedy
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:05 PM
2

Any material before the tinder and social media era is outdated. The “game” is completely changed now.
/r/seduction21/08/22 02:01 PM
3

Because they don’t give af because they have true abundance due to their attractiveness. It’s a positive feedback loop for them to behave that way. They get good reactions for their “toxic” attitudes due to their good looks.
/r/seduction21/08/22 01:54 PM
2

Yes it’s how most young people meet nowadays. If you fail at online dating you are probs not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:13 AM
5

That attractive guy although rare, can be easily found on social media and dating apps. Yes there are more women that are more attractive because they put more work into their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:31 PM
1

Hot girls I know constantly get approached. And always complain about it. I don’t blame them tho, it looks exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:25 PM
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Tf…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:15 PM
2

I’ll bet you like 90% of dudes will never turn their dating life around in this sub. Most guys in general need to accept that they aren’t going to slaying left and right…
/r/seduction19/08/22 03:28 AM
2

Gen Z are tall af what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:24 AM
1

That’s why I never recommend cold approach.
/r/seduction19/08/22 03:17 AM
1

That person nowadays wouldn’t see success with people being more aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:02 AM
1

Spot the guy that tinder doesn’t work for.
/r/seduction17/08/22 08:31 PM
7

Online dating social media era has exposed the bs nature of PUA. Look at how many OG PUAs have disappeared. I’m all for the online era tho, if you play it right you can get big rewards.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:22 PM
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If there were such a thing, you’d see the 5’5 Balding Janitor getting with the prime college sorority girls. Do you see it happening? No. So all this stuff is just PUA marketing for desperate guys to buy their crappy courses.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:21 PM
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That’s like majority of what girls like. Personality matters AFTER she’s find attractive.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:14 PM
2

Tinder changed everything.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:13 PM
0

Ah ok you seem older. Nvm. Lol.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:17 PM
0

Doubt all the women around you are large. Go to the club and I bet you will find very attractive girls there.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:14 PM
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Girls in Thailand are not the same at all compared to girls in the West. Totally different experience.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:13 PM
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Come on you going to Thailand… We all know what’s up. Guys who get laid plenty don’t need to travel for it. Also the girls in North America are way more attractive.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:04 PM
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Bruh if you travel for sex you already lost…
/r/seduction16/08/22 06:47 PM
2

When did I say I was red pilled?
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 06:45 PM
3

Looks, money, status all matter when it comes to your attractiveness.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 05:49 PM
9

There are some truths, but just don’t fall down the rabbit hole of nihilism and bitterness.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 12:04 AM
4

I get lots of matches and hookups my pics are: -no selfies -no pics with girls -no pics of drinking, smoking, etc -no gym pics -no shirtless pic -all pics taken with latest iPhone (high quality) -few candid pics -no professional pics taken (looks too try hard) Pic 1: a clear pic of me in my NICE room (modern) using a timer on phone Pic 2: pic of me INSIDE my nice car holding my dog, taken by a girl I’m seeing. Don’t take pics outside of the car looks too obvious and try hard. Pic 3: me playing g…
/r/seduction16/08/22 12:03 AM
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That used to work in the past. But now people know what you are trying to do.
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:55 PM
0

Value and beauty is quite objective.
/r/seduction15/08/22 11:54 PM
0

Are you cold approaching? This is why I don’t advise it, it’s bad for your mental health.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:18 PM
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Trash video. Enough with these ads.
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:04 PM
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Ya but how dumb do you have to be to say something so stupid yo turn them off? Like we are talking basic social skills here.
/r/seduction15/08/22 06:42 PM
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Just let it go and get some other options. She’s clearly showing you she is too busy, and it seems like you are smothering her. Talk to some other girls, if she’s down to meet up she will hit you up. Stop messaging her.
/r/seduction15/08/22 03:18 PM
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She’s not that interested.
/r/seduction15/08/22 03:12 PM
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Not gonna happen lol
/r/seduction15/08/22 03:10 PM
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Can we ban these kinds of posts please?
/r/seduction15/08/22 09:02 AM
9

They matter if she’s already attracted. Like why do my tinder matches are down to meet up after 5 messages? Did my actions and intentions cause that? No.
/r/seduction14/08/22 11:47 PM
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None of this matters. She’s either attracted to you or isn’t.
/r/seduction14/08/22 11:09 PM
1

People here will gaslight and tell you that you said the wrong thing or did the wrong thing. Truth is you need to lvl up to become more appealing to these girls.
/r/seduction14/08/22 10:50 PM
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Be good looking.
/r/seduction14/08/22 10:40 PM
2

Height matters tho just look at studies, social media, tinder bios, etc. So men are very self conscious about their height these days.
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:46 PM
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Ya depends, also under 5’9 is pretty bad Ngl…
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:45 PM
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Right so race will have nothing to do with it. A hot guy will do better regardless of race.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:03 AM
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Not rly. Idk any avg white guy or any avg guy in general that’s doing well in dating nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 09:01 AM
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And? You can say that about every race… In todays day and age you have to be attractive to pull anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:55 AM
1

Not sure how a put together 20 year old won’t get as many girls as the put together 30 year old…
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:44 AM
1

This is so old… Bro Asian TikTok boys slay on dating apps and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 08:26 AM
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Not necessarily.
/r/seduction12/08/22 06:33 PM
3

Ok. Still doesn’t change the fact that height, looks, status matter MORE than confidence, voice, personality. Also I’m pretty sure taller people are perceived as more dominant, authoritative, attractive, etc. And yes max out everything you can but it doesn’t change the fact that confidence, personality, voice are less important than height, looks, status.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:46 PM
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Nah. Looks, height, status will always beat confidence, voice, etc. Also people with good looks are most likely to be more confident than avg people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:23 PM
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This is the truth. Attractive men on avg do not struggle with dating unless they have outrageous expectations and standards. Also avg men commonly overestimate their attractiveness. And get frustrated when they don’t see the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:21 AM
0

Well it depends on what you put more effort in. You said you don’t use social media and don’t have many pics. So of course you won’t have a good success rate. It’s like a guy that’s never put in any effort into cold approaching and thinks they’ll start getting laid. I’m young and on social media quite a bit. And I have a lot of pics of myself from other people taking candid pics of me on Snapchat. So I use that to my advantage and have a very good success rate online.
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:59 PM
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Capppp
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:54 PM
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But but I thought women loved older guys???
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:53 PM
2

The game’s not “rigged”. Just perfectly optimized, which means women have choices and freedom that they didn’t have before. Why don’t these guys go to Korea, Japan, Singapore? Because they are developed countries where women can get good paying jobs and don’t need avg guys to pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 09:00 AM
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Maybe because no girl your age has interest in you so you look elsewhere. Think about it, if the hottest girl in your grade wanted to fk. You wouldn’t even be thinking about this.
/r/seduction10/08/22 06:00 PM
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Nice ad
/r/seduction10/08/22 07:03 AM
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Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:24 AM
1

Def matters. But must be over 6ft is way over exaggerated. I’m avg height and do fine. Better than my 6ft plus friends. But I know dudes 5’8 and under that struggle pretty hard due to their height.
/r/seduction10/08/22 01:15 AM
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Yeah but what else are these guys going to do? Stay single forever? Being single affects mens mental health way more than it does woman’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:16 PM
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The avg guy apart of the manosphere will probably never “make it”. Only a very small % actually start getting the sex life they want. Not everyone can become a millionaire. Yes you probably raised your value, that’s why your exes feel that way. But the chances of the avg guy actually raising their value is so low that this is not common. Look at the girls that monkey branch and never look back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:13 PM
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The avg guys match with the undesirable women (overweight, not pretty). Eventually those men will soon settle for one of these women. It’s the hope sold to these avg guys that makes them stay. And hey, some of them get a decent girl from there(unlikely). Look at the tinder review sub. It’s filled with dudes trying to improve their profile. They ain’t going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:10 PM
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Nah she’s either into you or isn’t.
/r/seduction09/08/22 05:40 PM
7

But isn’t the avg dude not in shape and kinda chubby?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:33 PM
5

You don’t think guy’s complain about their lack of dating options? These guys have options just not the ones they want, then they complain about it. Like bro if she’s fit, she’s already out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:29 PM
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And what’s the problem? The women are not responsible for the average guy’s sex life. People will put their own happiness first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:25 PM
9

Yes. Too many entitled average dudes out here thinking they can get baddies without offering anything. It’s been a hard wake up call. The only problem is what are these sexless guys going to do? As dating apps and social media become more and more prevalent the average guy is going to suffer more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:24 PM
7

Lol all those SEA girls are leaving and going to straight to USA. What will this do? Kill the sex tourism which is great. If you have to travel to get sex, you already lost…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:28 PM
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They ain’t interested move on
/r/seduction09/08/22 04:23 PM
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It’s very unlikely to work out….
/r/seduction09/08/22 04:17 PM
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If tinder ain’t working for you then it’s gonna be tuff..
/r/seduction09/08/22 04:14 PM
0

Do you get matches on tinder? Do people try to hook you up with their friends? Do girls hit on you and call you cute at the party? If these things don’t happen, then you are not attractive.
/r/seduction09/08/22 04:09 PM
3

Mindset doesn’t “automatically make you high value”.
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:26 AM
4

It’s just you.
/r/seduction09/08/22 08:25 AM
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None you talk to other girls
/r/seduction08/08/22 09:42 PM
2

Lol so you don’t think women from 18-25 are not down for BTS? Bruh if any member DM’d them they would jump at the opportunity no questions asked.
/r/seduction08/08/22 09:36 PM
2

So much evidence against this…
/r/seduction08/08/22 06:52 PM
3

Male gaze vs female gaze. Look at what women are attracted to, don’t take advice from men. Look at Tim chalamet, BTS, harry styles…
/r/seduction08/08/22 06:50 PM
1

She was just being nice.
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:39 PM
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The prime age girls have way higher standards for sure.
/r/seduction08/08/22 05:33 PM
2

Right but how often is the short ugly dude with no success is going to be that guy?
/r/seduction08/08/22 03:02 AM
1

Exactly, how can you tell a guy that’s been put down in social situations to suddenly be confident? You can’t fake it either, it never lasts and easy to see through.
/r/seduction08/08/22 02:30 AM
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It’s because deep down you know you not in their league. Keep self improving. I mean let’s face it if you were the shit and you knew it. You wouldn’t feel this way. You have some sort of insecurity. Also stop comparing yourself to others it’s pointless. Only use comparables as way to see what kind of guy you need to be.
/r/seduction08/08/22 12:33 AM
1

Ok I agree with you. I just think personality and confidence is overrated in general. Hot rich tall guy (all shallow features) is going to win majority of the time.
/r/seduction07/08/22 10:44 PM
1

The rich attractive guy is going to have better confidence and game tho. Due to positive reinforcement. And these guys are also pulling IRL as well. I just feel like there is def a correlation between online success and in real life success.
/r/seduction07/08/22 10:04 PM
1

So the avg guy approaching IRL will have a better chance than the rich attractive guy in her DMs?
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:35 PM
0

Great Looks and financial will take you further than great confidence in my opinion.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:35 PM
1

Doesn’t make sense.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:28 PM
1

So you rly think cold approach has a better success rate? I feel like cold approaching is super inefficient.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:25 PM
1

I rly don’t understand this. We are acting like no dudes are getting anything from OLD. Which is simply not true.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:24 PM
0

Sounds like a very low success rate
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:23 PM
0

Where are these studies?
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:12 PM
1

Exactly, just because they see you in person. Doesn’t mean that makes you more attractive than the hot guy on tinder.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:10 PM
0

It is how it is.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:10 PM
1

But can’t you make that argument for cold approach?
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:09 PM
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It’s starting to become very normalized.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:09 PM
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Guys overrate themselves and underrate other guys. See it all the time.
/r/seduction07/08/22 09:08 PM
2

Ik. So why keep complaining? Might as play the game. Not talking about you specifically. But people in this sub just trash on OLD and anyone that uses it. They should just keep quiet.
/r/seduction07/08/22 06:04 PM
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I feel like you wanted to do was come in here and say youre attractive.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/22 05:10 PM
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Lol why is everyone here so worked up about OLD? if you don’t like, don’t use it. Simple.
/r/seduction07/08/22 01:53 PM
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Not everyone can be a part of something that they want. Like I think you need to accept that and be grateful for what you Have. Your chasing your tail.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/22 05:49 PM
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None I’m just here for entertainment. So much bad advice here: -quit online dating and social media -every rejection is a “shit test” -if you do online dating you are “avoiding rejection” what? -“approach girls anywhere bro!” There is also so much basic advice that isn’t useful for the avg guy here. Like hygiene, confidence, get a job. Fact is most people have those things. Main reason you struggle: you are avg in the social media and dating app era. With social media and dating apps you are com…
/r/seduction02/08/22 08:43 PM
1

Rising standards.
/r/seduction02/08/22 08:28 PM
-17

What? I’m not op. Also I saw your hinge bruh. You ain’t that dude.
/r/seduction01/08/22 02:38 AM
-17

And not you either 😂
/r/seduction01/08/22 01:55 AM
10

All you talked about was how much success you had and how good looking you are. Lol. Isn’t that just flexing? You had no input in the actual thread.
/r/seduction31/07/22 09:31 PM
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What?
/r/seduction31/07/22 09:27 PM
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Lol are you just here to flex?
/r/seduction31/07/22 09:21 PM
1

Never double text. Being left on delivered was your answer.
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:48 PM
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Hot girls are hard to get mate. What do you bring to the table?
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:47 PM
1

You’re not high value enough as of now. They’re not replying unless you bring some sort of value. Stop DMing, makes you look like a loser.
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:44 PM
1

How about just move on to the next and try not to be so sexual over text?
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:42 PM
0

Creepy
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:41 PM
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It ain’t a numbers game bro. High value dudes ain’t spamming like that.
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:57 AM
17

Cold approach so effective bro
/r/seduction31/07/22 12:56 AM
2

Wait so he’s just more extroverted that’s why when they ask you about him they go crazy? I think his physical appearance must be quite good. Because why would their interest shift so quickly? Also yeah competition is high. Not every guy can be “that guy” that gets all the girls.
/r/seduction30/07/22 11:05 PM
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Was he good looking? Or only had money? Never lead with your wallet in any situation.
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:15 PM
1

Hell no
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:00 PM
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If they don’t reply you move on to the next….
/r/seduction29/07/22 08:16 AM
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If you have to question whether you got rejected or not. Then you def got rejected.
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:41 AM
0

True
/r/ExRedPill29/07/22 07:19 AM
1

Why not go to the club/bar?
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:13 AM
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It’s def more than 50% minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:31 AM
5

Yup. And down $30-50 every night.
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:39 AM
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If you are an avg guy. Yes dating now is going to be brutal for you. The market is so over saturated and competition is super high.
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:31 AM
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Balding is a death sentence in 2022
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:10 AM
1

Yes. But you are basically blacklisted from them. Unless you are very hot.
/r/seduction29/07/22 03:38 AM
1

But but I thought cold approach was the best way? Also I thought all young women loved older guys in their 30s? /s
/r/seduction29/07/22 01:40 AM
1

What are your tinder matches looking like
/r/seduction28/07/22 10:08 PM
1

Exactly, second one is rly dictated on superficial traits.
/r/seduction28/07/22 08:13 PM
1

Meh status/wealth will give you a better chance at that given your age.
/r/seduction28/07/22 08:10 PM
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Yeah it doesn’t make sense how a guy approaching IRL suddenly has higher SMV than the tall, good looking, richer guy on the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:04 AM
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Pretty much, most guys have options but they are undesirable ones. But at the end of the day, that’s the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:11 AM
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Exactly, the cute girl in your league isn’t shooting for her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:10 AM
2

I think every ugly-avg guy tries to shoot above their league (especially when younger) but fail. This leads to the frustration and entitlement we see today. Also a lot of ugly-avg dudes usually overestimate their own attractiveness. So when the results they want don’t come, they get angry. Also, ugly-avg women can get more attractive men to sleep with them. Which leads to them not settling for that ugly/avg guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:06 AM
1

Truthfully, when I started to take social media and online dating more seriously. Putting in the effort has built up my roster. More matches, more messages, more willingness to meet up.
/r/seduction27/07/22 11:56 PM
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Those guys are just playing catch up from missing the hookup phase in their early 20s. Also, there is no evidence that women in their early 20s are actually trying to get with men in their 30s. It’s also just comforting for undesirable men in their 20s to think that things will get easier in their 30s. But the truth is, if you aren’t desirable in your 20s good chances are you won’t have better luck in your 30s. Also the trend of young women going for older men is dead. GenZ women make their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:45 PM
0

You don’t. Why not hit on girls at the club, bar, house party? There are tons of hot girls there.
/r/seduction27/07/22 10:38 PM
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She’s at work, working and a part of her job is being nice to the customers. So from what I read I don’t see any clear signs that she is interested. But if you want to shoot your shot just do it.
/r/seduction27/07/22 09:15 PM
0

They do tho. Because super hot men have no problem sleeping 5-10 at a time. And the super hot women don’t care either. Just look at tinder. Hot women are way more in demand than super hot men. So when a super hot men enters their lives, they will hang on.
/r/seduction27/07/22 09:03 PM
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Yes but I’m assuming he’s not that rich, because if he were he wouldn’t be struggling in the West. Good Looks are pretty universal for both genders. For men: tall, jaw line, in shape, head full of hair. Super hot women around the world with high SMV aren’t settling for avg looking men with avg money.
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:59 PM
2

Not sure how your logic works. So you are 6-7 but going for 8s. So why would 8s in another country suddenly want you? You’re SMV doesn’t increase for no reason, unless you go to South East Asia.
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:47 PM
1

She talking to 10 other dudes and forgot.
/r/seduction27/07/22 12:38 AM
1

Nah they flake on things no important to them.
/r/seduction26/07/22 05:44 PM
2

Exactly, it’s a totally different experience and a much more enjoyable one. Also the fact that these women have a ton of options and they chose you, definitely boosts the ego.
/r/seduction26/07/22 03:12 AM
11

Meh whenever I pull an avg girl I nvr feel good about myself. When I pull an attractive girl the confidence boost is night and day.
/r/seduction25/07/22 11:28 PM
2

It help a lot if you are super skinny or super fat. But going from avg to super jacked isn’t going to change your dating life that much.
/r/seduction25/07/22 10:43 PM
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Girls that are 8/9/10 are not the same as the avg and below avg girls. They are a totally different league. So just because one pots a bunch of goals in the minor leagues doesn’t mean it will work in the majors. You either have it or don’t. Yes sure sleep with some avg women it can be fun. But just because you slept with some avg girls doesn’t equal to increasing your appeal.
/r/seduction25/07/22 09:23 PM
2

Lol maybe 1-5 years older but not 10 years plus.
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:06 PM
20

It matters a ton. Only in this sub do they say that looks don’t matter. Like bro, if you good looking tinder literally will get you laid every day of the week if you want. Also, some of my not so good looking friends get rejected within the first second before they say anything. Is that because of their bad game and personality? No it’s because they are short and ugly. Like where is this idea that looks don’t matter come from? From that scammer dating coach that need to push his program?
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:04 PM
1

Copium
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:01 PM
2

I get what you’re saying. But it’s already been exposed that hot young women aren’t lining up to date old dudes. They make their own money and have “boss energy” now. So what do old men offer?
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:51 PM
2

It’s such a cope. Your avg 21 yo hot college girl isn’t fucking a 31 yo guy.
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:50 PM
2

Vancouver
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:09 AM
3

You made her give you head you said. This sounds rly Sus it seemed like you coerced her. You about to get me too’d
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:02 AM
7

Guys got issues
/r/seduction24/07/22 09:22 PM
2

Doesn’t count. Philippines and North America/Western Europe are very different. I’m gonna assume most users are from NA and EU.
/r/seduction24/07/22 09:04 PM
2

Dating in todays day and age ain’t like that bro. Most success now comes from good social media and dating profiles.
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:56 PM
1

Agreed. Approaching a complete stranger on the street is weird af. So ineffective and puts people in a defensive mode.
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:55 PM
1

But I get results from online. So does that mean I’m unmotivated and lazy? I feel like if you are in a place in your life where you have to cold approach then something is missing. The guys I know that get the most, aren’t cold approaching like that.
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:50 PM
1

It’s so ineffective. Imagine spending hours a day going around talking to random strangers that you know nothing about. Could be using that time to advance career, social networks, social media, online dating. Which is way more effective if you have all those things on point. Girls DM you first, you can show your lifestyle, etc.
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:49 PM
7

So apparently if you don’t cold approach you a gaming porn Addict got it. Maybe some guys don’t want to because they don’t need to? This sub always preaches cold approach for whatever reason. Even thought it’s so inefficient.
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:06 PM
2

Once you lose the weight, things will get easier.
/r/seduction24/07/22 06:48 PM
2

lol keep crying about it
/r/seduction24/07/22 06:45 PM
3

Exactly, sure it does happen but it’s not the rule but rarer exception given todays dating market. Like usually attracts like.
/r/seduction23/07/22 09:11 PM
2

Aren’t they like the same? Different features yes but not many guys are very good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:29 PM
3

Exactly, there is a huge disparity between avg and actually attractive good looking guy. Below/middle/above avg are all usually have similar dating lives. Nothing crazy, above avg might have some more successes. But the difference between above avg guy and hot guy is huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:53 PM
2

So not true. An ugly face attached to a nice body is still an ugly guy. A nice body doesn’t make a guy handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:49 PM
1

Looooool just look at their ig comments and see all 18-25 girls thirsting for them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:48 PM
1

Dude he goes to 3rd world countries and uses his money and social eco status to get those girls. He couldn’t do that shit in any developed country where women have options and aren’t impoverished.
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:00 PM
1

Because it’s creepy af
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:58 PM
1

Very important in this day. Having a good social media will only help you. It can show off your lifestyle, social life, accomplishments, etc.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:49 PM
1

Box
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:45 PM
2

That sounds creepy tbh.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:44 PM
2

A lot of dudes think they are getting hit on but the girl is just being social and friendly. So I’m going to question her “hitting” on you. Maybe she was just being nice?
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:44 PM
10

Tinder
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:41 PM
15

It’s always been like this tho.
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:40 PM
16

U just ain’t that guy
/r/seduction23/07/22 06:06 PM
2

Through actually getting successes and results. No guy can just take confidence after failing so many times.
/r/seduction22/07/22 10:25 PM
4

They can yeah. But it’s so inefficient and time consuming.
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:48 PM
3

Entitled dudes that want a hot girl. These guys can easily date an ugly/fat girl but refuse to do it. And then blame it on other things. Truth is, is that that’s your looksmatch.
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:47 PM
4

Be careful you’re making sense. This sub hates the idea of using technology because it means you are avoiding your problems.
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:46 PM
1

Yeah it’s literally just life. In all areas of life only 20% succeed….
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:32 PM
-5

Overrated af and outdated.
/r/seduction22/07/22 08:52 PM
1

That’s why it doesn’t work.
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:26 PM
1

Cold approach is not normal.
/r/seduction22/07/22 05:28 AM
1

Huh?
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:57 AM
1

Well if she matches with you that’s a pretty good indication.
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:04 AM
-6

Yeah but OLD is better. That’s the point of the post.
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:03 AM
1

Lol another hater. I can send you the dm if you want.
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:02 AM
1

So then those same girls finally get realistic expectations when they close the app?
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:54 AM
1

But that’s what makes insta better. Because you can show more than 5 pics like on OLD. You can post stories, and a variety of other things. Also there is no barrier when DMing.
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:53 AM
1

So are you saying ditch OLD? Also just because a low value guy cold approaches doesn’t jump him in front of the hot rich guy from OLD.
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:52 AM
1

How is insta not a dating app? You don’t think stuff goes down in the DMs? A good profile can get DM’d first too even.
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:49 AM
1

There’s so many hot girls on OLD wdym. I consider instagram as a dating app. So girls from cold approach don’t flake? Girls from cold approach are flaking all the time wdym. I did cold approach on and off (only in a party setting) and did get results but then I downloaded tinder and it’s just way more efficient in terms of getting laid which is my goal.
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:48 AM
1

It can work for sure. But how did that person view you?
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:27 AM
2

Ya sure use both. But this sub tell guys to ditch OLD altogether and that it’s for pussies that are afraid of developing their social skills lol.
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:53 PM
2

Exactly, how many dudes realistically are meeting 100s of women every year?
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:51 PM
3

I’m gonna say OLD and cold approach prob have similar success rates. (Leaning towards OLD) But with trend of dating heading toward more online and OLD being more efficient in terms of time spent. I’m just saying OLD is a better investment long term.
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:51 PM
-9

The girls from cold approaching are just as flaky probably even more so. Modern dating is only going to get more toxic and shallow. So might as well play the game. I’m not denying that it’s shallow and toxic. Those are simps that obviously get nothing. But there are simps IRL, OLD has just shown huge light on it. There will always be weak men. OLD didn’t make weak men. There are diminishing returns to cold approaching as PUA are getting more of a bad rep. Compared to years ago cold approaching i…
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:46 PM
3

Right but I’m just saying don’t ditch the apps completely. The advice in this sub is rly anti OLD. Saying it’s for pussies that are avoiding rejection.
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:42 PM
4

And so if you were all of these things, cold approaching will bring you better results?
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:43 PM
-25

I didn’t offer to meet up that night she did. Ya don’t dm to meet up, you should DM to gauge interest kinda like cold approaching but more effective.
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:43 PM
2

Have you tried it tho ? Also you don’t msg random girls. You msg girls that are kinda in your social circle but not rly. The girls that are friends with ppl in your circle but aren’t hanging out all the time.
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:42 PM
-15

Just wondering How is it always better? I should add that this girl wasn’t a complete stranger. She friends with one of my friends that partied with back in the day.
/r/seduction21/07/22 10:40 PM
1

Agreed. When were avg dudes rly killing it?
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:17 PM
-6

You make it seem like women don’t care about looks. Yeah women care about those other traits you listed but looks definitely matter. Also you can convey quite a lot through your instagram and dating profile. Especially social status, career status, and looks. Which is what is attractive in todays dating market. Also you aren’t limiting yourself to women who match with you. Because your dating profile/social media is up there, you are putting yourself out there 24/7.
/r/seduction21/07/22 09:08 PM
1

Reasoning?
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:45 PM
11

Tinder. Set the age range higher. Been hooking up with a 31 yo and 32 yo I’m 25.
/r/seduction21/07/22 07:28 PM
0

I mean how many hot guys don’t have friend groups and a social life? You’re avg hot guy isn’t some closed off introvert. Hot guys get a lot of positive reinforcement from their social interactions which leads to more confidence. You’re avg hot guy is definitely doing well in dating. Sure there are some that don’t do well but majority hot guys do.
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:24 PM
-2

How do you know you’re an 8 tho? I feel like your rating should be based on how your pics looks. Photogenic is based on facial symmetry which is attractive.
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:22 PM
10

I disagree every hot dude I know is killing it. The guys who struggle are usually the less attractive ones on avg.
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:06 PM
2

Did u hang out with her tho?
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:04 PM
7

Never ask out service workers. They are paid to be nice to you. You just got tricked.
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:00 PM
1

Yes it’s all about dating apps
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:54 PM
10

Hotness matters a lot tho. Let’s not pretend it doesn’t matter… You can just download tinder and ask girls over…
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:48 PM
1

Isn’t the same as how some ppl are rich and others are poor tho
/r/seduction21/07/22 04:47 PM
1

Hot rich successful dudes
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:22 AM
7

?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:52 AM
2

Truth
/r/seduction20/07/22 04:30 AM
0

The only things that matter if you have a good profile and she finds you cute. No such thing as text game.
/r/seduction19/07/22 07:41 PM
4

It’s definitely weird. GenZ don’t mess with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:39 PM
5

Exactly, cold approach is such an inefficient method of meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:11 PM
6

Lol dating apps are just going to continuously become more popular and it will become the only way to meet ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:11 PM
-5

Be rich and hot but even then you will still get rejected because of the age difference.
/r/seduction19/07/22 08:31 AM
36

Most dudes in their 30s aren’t having an easier time unless they have something to show for it.
/r/seduction19/07/22 08:30 AM
5

Most dudes here don’t even a social circle to consistently hang out with.
/r/seduction18/07/22 11:30 PM
1

Haha not true. Girls are just as visual.
/r/seduction17/07/22 08:39 PM
1

House parties and instagram
/r/seduction17/07/22 08:37 PM
5

Good advice and none of that be happy with yourself and get some hobbies bs advice. It’s hard looksmax only.
/r/seduction17/07/22 08:27 PM
1

You probs the decent guy, but not the hot guy that they wanna fk right away.
/r/seduction17/07/22 03:47 AM
4

This is a good comparable. It’s like telling fat girls to be confident and they will land the guy they want.
/r/seduction17/07/22 03:30 AM
9

It definitely is. A bad hairline can throw your facial proportions way off due to making forehead looking bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:00 PM
23

Exactly, we all know “that guy” that hits on all the girls. If you are at a point that you are hitting on girls regularly then you know you lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:44 PM
1

Right but doesn’t this sub always push that personality>looks? If that were the case then why don’t dating apps work for so many good men? I think that if you fit within a niche then you can get laid.
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:38 PM
2

Then what’s more efficient? Dating apps are def more efficient in terms of time. You don’t need to go out and cold approach. In apps you are talking to a pool of women that swiped right on you and are like 90% single.
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:37 PM
4

Right I disagree with Blackpill. But the dating trend is heading towards more looks based. You can’t deny that. Online dating, social media, are all just going to become more important .
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:35 PM
0

There are lots of stories about this…
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:32 PM
25

Basically this. But I don’t recall a time when avg men were getting tons of women. Tall good looking and competition has always been high.
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:31 PM
1

She got other options and other plans
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:09 PM
1

Dating apps and ig killed it. But honestly dating apps is the most efficient way to get hookups. Which is what young men want.
/r/seduction13/07/22 07:06 PM
5

You missed the most important one online dating.
/r/seduction13/07/22 06:58 PM
4

This is true. Guys don’t care at all about pre selection, status, wealth. It’s just look good and be in good shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:03 AM
2

Right but how do you get to the point of interacting with your type? Like all my guy friends I know aren’t friends with any girls. And if they are, they aren’t my type at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:23 PM
1

Same past 6 years all the girls iv been with are from apps. It’s not bad at all but I do wants to start meeting them IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:21 PM
1

Online
/r/seduction10/07/22 03:29 PM
17

Meh you can get away with these things if she’s attracted to you.
/r/seduction10/07/22 03:20 PM
3

So everyone’s dating opportunities are based on their efforts? What if the guy is 5’2?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:20 PM
1

It’s ridiculous that you are basically trash talking ppl OLD users for “hiding behind a screen”. If something works for you, keep doing it. Idk why you are trying to drag ppl down.
/r/seduction08/07/22 05:00 PM
2

I’m not hiding from anything. I’m using OLD to my advantage. Why do you think certain men do well and other don’t? Because the ones that succeed take good pics and know how to present themselves. Lol and you make it seem like you have to approach every girl. Do you know there are tons of hot girls online too?
/r/seduction08/07/22 09:31 AM
5

OLD is a part of the strategy tho… This isn’t a pick up sub. Also OLD does require skill: -Marketing yourself -texting Optimizing your profile is way more efficient in terms of getting laid. Than going out there cold approaching 100 girls. Time is valuable and so young men should use whatever they can to optimize their dating life.
/r/seduction08/07/22 09:02 AM
2

She would I bet
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:07 AM
6

Personality only matters if she finds you attractive already. Sometimes it doesn’t matter at all if she find that attractive. Just look at tinder experiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:18 PM
2

Rly? Iv had the opposite experience. Handsome tall dudes are usually arrogant and confident af despite being broke af.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:14 PM
4

I’d never recommend day game to anyone. Such a waste of time, with such low efficiency rate. If it rly worked then you would see way more people doing it.
/r/seduction07/07/22 05:57 PM
1

You don’t tf
/r/seduction07/07/22 05:56 PM
1

Inner game doesn’t make any sense. In terms of attracting women, sure women like confidence but that alone isn’t going to get them to want you. Other bad advice is joining classes to pickup girls. So lame. Real advice: How’s your online profile/social media? Also are you lean? If not then you need to get that figured out. Also is your social circle outgoing and social where they can get you into parties?
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:51 PM
1

I don’t see how approaching irl makes it more efficient. If you are high value guy then either method will work. But in terms of efficiency online is way more efficient because you are dealing with a pool of women that are single and looking. Also there are so many hot girls online. Instagram is basically a dating app.
/r/seduction07/07/22 03:06 PM
-3

Don’t men do the same with hot girls? Lol
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:39 AM
2

Halo effect. Agreed tho. When an ugly dude comes off super arrogant it’s annoying me
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:38 AM
3

Online dating has killed approaching irl.
/r/seduction07/07/22 05:45 AM
1

Also like 90% of girls in social groups are already with someone. Especially the high value ones.
/r/seduction07/07/22 05:43 AM
8

Agreed. Sorry but if a guy online is objectively better than the guy cold approaching her. The online guy wins every time despite the balls it takes to cold approach. Also women are extremely picky regardless and she can get 10 of her type in minutes on the apps.
/r/seduction07/07/22 05:42 AM
4

Because if you curated a good online dating profile and social media. Picking up women is much easier and more efficient. Isn’t the reason of seduction is to get more women at the end of the day? Dating, hooking up, what not.
/r/seduction07/07/22 02:05 AM
5

Cold approach doesn’t give you an edge anymore.
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:34 AM
2

Online dating and social media has killed PIck up. Which in my opinion has been a positive.
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:34 AM
1

That doesn’t work the same way for Sexual attraction.
/r/seduction07/07/22 01:32 AM
1

How can you create attraction? Attraction is either there or isn’t.
/r/seduction06/07/22 11:10 PM
2

Other bad similar advice: -get more hobbies -take a shower and new wardrobe -maintain frame -abundance mindset
/r/seduction06/07/22 07:28 PM
1

The girl you are already with needs to be hot tho. If she’s ugly then other girls will assume you are low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 04:26 AM
3

She has other options and made an excuse
/r/seduction05/07/22 06:21 PM
5

Because they are easy lays.
/r/seduction05/07/22 06:19 PM
1

Yes it’s important.
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:45 AM
2

No it’s because it’s a western country and advanced. It’s only easy in 3rd world countries where competition is low. Due to social economic status.
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:44 AM
-3

Then what? Come back and never get laid? This is what smurfing in real life looks like and it’s so lame. If you can make it in the West then you are truly high value. Nothing to be proud of by having to go to 3rd world countries to get laid.
/r/seduction04/07/22 10:51 PM
8

True words. This is just running from competition. It’s not true status.
/r/seduction04/07/22 10:50 PM
-1

Tinder
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:17 PM
1

I’m gonna be honest shoot your shot but I don’t see any CLEAR indications that she like you.
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:52 AM
0

It is none of those things you listed are what I was talking about or unattractive. Objectively unattractive features are: High body fat % Short height Asymmetrical face Balding
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:51 AM
0

Attractiveness is pretty objective: Size, height, hair, health, symmetry, etc.
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:56 AM
1

You too good for the ugly ones…. But not good enough for the hot ones lol
/r/seduction04/07/22 03:20 AM
1

Just don’t go to 3rd world countries where you literally are just running from competition. It’s the most pathetic thing.
/r/seduction04/07/22 03:05 AM
1

Meh you can lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:01 AM
2

But didn’t it solve that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:06 AM
1

If you can’t get casual sex from OLD. You won’t get casual in from any other avenue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:06 AM
4

Ya but the advice is made out to seem like women in their prime are going to want you when you finally maxed out in your late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:57 PM
4

That’s the truth. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Not everyone is going to “make it” in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:41 PM
22

This is why I have huge problem with the impress them with your “personality” advice. Attraction is very non verbal for both genders and immediate.
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:37 PM
7

Never understood the work on yourself and women come advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:35 PM
12

Yup instagram is a dating app basically. Also location matter. More fat ppl in certain places. I’m in Canada and not many fatties here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:39 PM
4

Are you in a position to be having those standards?
/r/seduction03/07/22 06:35 PM
582

Because they’re attractive. Attractive men get a lot of women. When a girl is a attracted to a man, they let a lot of things slide.
/r/seduction03/07/22 06:34 PM
3

Blkpill. But all you can do it focus on yourself. He will continue to have success, nothing you can do about that. So just focus on becoming better.
/r/seduction03/07/22 06:32 PM
2

If they are messing with you like this it means they not taking you seriously. So you move on to the next.
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:16 PM
3

It’s not flirting tho. It’s her fucking with you.
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:15 PM
4

It’s tough out there. But please do not hire a dating coach, they are scammers. I have a lot of success on the apps. I can review your profile if you want.
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:44 AM
5

No guarantee that it will lead to dating success. But your life will definitely be better.
/r/seduction03/07/22 03:43 AM
1

Your tinder results will tell you about your looks. No need for this.
/r/seduction02/07/22 09:16 PM
345

When a girl is attracted to you she makes everything super easy. If you are having trouble flirting with them it’s probably because you’re not their type.
/r/seduction02/07/22 09:15 PM
17

Brush teeth Shower Gym bro Abundance mindset Maintain “frame” Don’t use OLD because you’re just “avoiding” Looks don’t matter
/r/seduction02/07/22 05:40 PM
6

It’s the same for cold approach
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:28 PM
2

Meeting on tinder is getting more and more common now. Idk how old that girl is but girls my age usually meet on hinge, bumble, etc.
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:23 PM
0

By going to another country where the competition is lower.
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:19 PM
-1

Working out doesn’t equal getting girls
/r/seduction01/07/22 12:08 PM
1

Lol nice. You don’t wanna end up as those sexpats.
/r/seduction01/07/22 07:03 AM
6

Ask to chill and if he makes up excuses then not down.
/r/seduction01/07/22 07:00 AM
1

So you pull 8-10s but struggle in night game? That doesn’t add up… Hot guys do very well at the club where game isn’t even required. Also how is your tinder?
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:58 AM
-2

You don’t need game if you got looks.
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:51 AM
4

How is there nothing wrong with travelling to get laid?
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:49 AM
2

Don’t take the advice of literally moving to another country to get women. It’s such a cop out.
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:45 AM
6

Not sure why you got downvoted when it’s the truth.
/r/seduction01/07/22 06:42 AM
3

This is so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:11 AM
5

Dating apps are meta now. If you get rejected on them then you’d get rejected IRL. Misogynistic men stem from getting constant rejections in general. OLD just delivers those rejection quicker and more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:36 AM
2

I agree to not be desperate. But not being desperate doesn’t equal to getting things.
/r/seduction01/07/22 12:14 AM
5

Rising standards.
/r/seduction30/06/22 07:01 PM
15

They probs not as ugly as you think. Guys always overrate themselves and underrate other guys.
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:26 AM
11

Unless you an 8/10 don’t even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:19 AM
11

This is the truest comment. Social intelligence doesn’t make a man sexually attractive. There were girls iv never spoken to at school that were into me. I did nothing, no game, no “push pull”, literally nothing and I heard from their friends that they liked me. Pua is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:43 PM
5

Mutuals. some girl you briefly met at a party or old classmates.
/r/seduction29/06/22 11:34 PM
4

Disagree. Dating apps are getting more popular each year. Also instagram is a dating app basically. Are you on there? But usually when you start online dating your profile gets a boost. after initial boost if your profile is mediocre then you will have a lower Elo. You should post your profile if you want a better answer.
/r/seduction29/06/22 09:58 PM
-5

This is why books, therapy, mindset is all bad advice. I mean it’s ok for general life advice but not for picking up women. The only good advice is max out your looks and hit the gym. Once you done that get tinder and start approaching in NIGHT game. Not day game please.
/r/seduction29/06/22 07:42 PM
2

The advice assume attraction doesn’t make sense at all.
/r/seduction29/06/22 02:55 PM
7

It’s a big reason tho. 5’3 is tiny.
/r/seduction29/06/22 02:52 PM
5

Tinder. I ask girls to come over that’s it .
/r/seduction29/06/22 02:24 AM
1

Lol young women are not into the masculine bearded types these days. It’s K-pop, TikTok boy look now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:32 PM
1

Leagues exist bri
/r/seduction27/06/22 08:16 PM
4

This debunks personality and game that men advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:33 PM
5

Looks matter the most. But agreed location matters a lot too.
/r/seduction27/06/22 07:08 PM
3

What kind of girls they getting tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:53 AM
62

OLD killed the chances of the avg guy getting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:42 AM
9

Confidence is so overrated. If you aren’t attractive she doesn’t care to get to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:36 AM
1

Be her best option
/r/seduction27/06/22 03:13 AM
4

Exactly, she don’t care bruh. She has 10 dudes hitting her up offering her whatever she wants. Some of them have money too and dumping.
/r/seduction27/06/22 02:25 AM
1

They don’t owe you kindness
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:07 AM
2

The threshold is tall good looking and successful. I’m only disputing the fact you say it’s a numbers game.
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:03 AM
2

Do you think it’s a numbers game for every guy? my one very good looking tall friend and my other 5’7 starting to bald friend have a very different dating life. With my good looking tall friend every social event/party we go to there is at least 2-3 girls asking if he’s single. With my avg friend (who is very into pick up) rarely gets any attention. Despite his “game”. He approaches 100s of girls with very little return while my other friend doesn’t do anything…. So idk how you can say it’s a nu…
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:01 AM
2

Not a numbers game if you high value
/r/seduction27/06/22 12:47 AM
3

If you almost never get IOIs then you got bigger problems
/r/seduction27/06/22 12:40 AM
1

Yes
/r/seduction26/06/22 05:26 PM
1

Means no interest
/r/seduction25/06/22 09:50 PM
-1

Well I think it’s because online dating has rly exposed that women don’t mess with avg guys. Which makes sense, because avg guy is boring. Which then results in a lot of bitter jaded guys here.
/r/seduction25/06/22 06:09 PM
2

In todays market yeah. Great way to show lifestyle, your looks, social proof. a good insta I’m only a plus for your dating life.
/r/seduction25/06/22 06:03 PM
4

Hope it happens so sexpats don’t get to exploit women in 3rd world countries, and then become a “dating coach”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:20 PM
3

You don’t, you move on to the next.
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:34 AM
13

I agree with that, if she’s into you the white knights have no effect on the outcome.
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:28 AM
2

Lol so you are attracting them? Then why are you posting this ?
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:23 AM
1

Important. But the ability doesn’t need to be high. It’s very obvious when someone is into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:23 AM
3

True
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:22 AM
3

You’re not hot enough for them if you aren’t attracting them.
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:13 AM
61

Exactly, the fact that she blocked him is telling me that the interaction wasn’t as great as op thought.
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:12 AM
3

Ok?
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:10 AM
2

Yes. Social proof and showing “cute” pics of yourself only helps you.
/r/seduction25/06/22 01:12 AM
15

Because they’re hot and high value? And what’s a toxic guy? A guy that won’t give into the girl’s program?
/r/seduction25/06/22 12:40 AM
5

What are you offering?
/r/seduction25/06/22 12:38 AM
3

She wanted a texting buddy
/r/seduction24/06/22 09:30 PM
5

I think girls early 20s are not going to be down for 30 year old dudes. But girls in 25-30 range will be. Most girls date 1-3 years older. Not 5-10. You say you fit and decent looking. But what about your status and money? That seems to be what 30 year old have the advantage compared to 20 year olds.
/r/seduction24/06/22 06:50 PM
3

18-26% is prime and ideal. After 26% men will likely just pump and dump. Depending on who she is pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:25 PM
52

You could but don’t expect your value to increase because you 30. The only reason guys in their 30s pull more is because they put in the work in their 20s. A low value ugly 30 year old isn’t gonna be pulling more than high value guy in his 20s.
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:49 PM
3

She already on another dude
/r/seduction24/06/22 05:44 PM
1

Yup, not everyone can be in the top percent
/r/seduction24/06/22 08:16 AM
2

High SMV people in relationships are at an advantage. due to lack of desperation, freedom to move on due to options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:59 PM
7

It helps for job searching too. It basically is an advantage in all aspected of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:55 PM
2

For club, approach when she’s looking ask for insta and to dance. I mostly rely on tinder for casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:54 PM
1

This is the truth. If you not getting matches, what makes you think you will get interest in real life? Your personality? People don’t know your personality by looking at you irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:53 PM
5

Guy’s about to get me too’d….
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:51 PM
-7

Sorry but you won’t “always do better” approaching irl it isn’t true. I agree with you that self love is important. But I disagree that you should delete your online dating accounts. Online dating is the future and telling guys to delete is just putting them at a disadvantage.
/r/seduction23/06/22 05:54 PM
3

Truth is, if you attractive you will have 100x the opportunities than the ugly guy. The ugly guy can’t just go on tinder and get a hookup when he’s bored. Which is what matter to most young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:01 PM
2

Ya bro your energy matters. Once you get the right “energy” all the girls will like you. Also shower and brush your teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:59 PM
1

Lol tall good looking guys get laid all the time dafuq.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:13 PM
3

Ya bro just workout, good hygiene, and focus on yourself bro then all the girls will like you bro.
/r/seduction23/06/22 05:19 AM
18

No. If you are tall and good looking you will get noticed. No one knows what you do or how much you make when they first meet you. Also, leading with your job/money is a terrible idea. You will get burned. As long as you have a good job and make decent money, it’s fine. Granted she’s attracted in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:20 AM
0

Game doesn’t matter. If she’s into you, it’s super easy. What are your tinder stats? Do you match with hot girls? If not, then it’s physical attraction issue.
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:17 AM
2

Don’t commit early you only live your 20s once.
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:15 AM
0

Thankfully it’s happening less and less as girls in their teens are already aware of their value due to social media. Teenagers are already getting DMs on TikTok and instagram. This makes them aware of their value and not go for the 30+ year old loser. Also no hot 18 year old girls go for the 30+ year old guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:51 PM
3

It’s been that way forever. But I can’t rly blame them, the avg guy is boring af.
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:36 PM
2

Nah if she’s into you it doesn’t matter what you ask for. She’s into youz
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:04 PM
12

Just shower bro!
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:02 PM
6

Ya times have changed since everyone is exposed to these top 0.1 of people. Standards have risen. Your avg girl isn’t considering the avg guy as much as before.
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:01 PM
1

But guys here advise people to ditch social media lol.
/r/seduction22/06/22 06:58 PM
2

She talking to 10 other dudes.
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:51 PM
3

Dating apps more efficient for me. I know they looking and attracted to me. Cold approach is a shot in the dark way too inefficient for my time.
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:51 PM
1

Lol good luck Toronto is brutal
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:50 PM
34

Dafuq it’s 2022 where cold approaching is not common at all. With social media and dating apps cold approach is def not the norm
/r/seduction21/06/22 09:49 PM
8

That advice is always dangerous. Do X, Y and Z and it will make you attractive to girls.
/r/seduction21/06/22 02:13 AM
1

Cold approach is so inefficient.
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:01 PM
4

Well no one can so shut up
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:01 PM
2

Attractive guy tho.
/r/seduction20/06/22 10:01 PM
7

The problem with that is the slow progression.
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:58 PM
3

Ya. It doesn’t make sense. If they don’t wanna meet at a club or party what makes you think they wanna meet at the park? lol
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:58 PM
5

Nah. She got 10 other dudes waiting.
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:55 PM
1

Agreed. Online dating confirms this.
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:52 PM
0

Looks are the most important
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:50 PM
2

Lol what about height, looks, ?
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:46 PM
0

I get matches that’s why I’m advocating it?
/r/seduction20/06/22 09:43 PM
1

How hot are they? This matter a lot.
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:25 PM
-5

Tinder represents real life. Good looking guys have no issues dating where as avg guys struggle. Same for irl and online
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:24 PM
0

Do it with a male model and results are similar
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:23 PM
5

Leading with your wallet is pathetic
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:21 PM
10

Guys here hate to admit this.
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:20 PM
1

Not true. Guys that put effort into their profiles get results. Just like any other form of game
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:14 PM
33

It’s not a numbers game for good looking hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:39 PM
11

It’s a revenge fantasy. Almost every girl I know only go 2/4 years up. Most 40 year old guys are greying and ugly. The girls that they get are looksmatched. Just let them live in fantasy land
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:36 PM
4

Lol just let him live in fantasy land
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:33 PM
1

“Economic stability” yeah it was a job for her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:33 PM
3

Lol so true. Just let him live in fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:20 PM
1

Impossible to tell you without looking at your profile. Back in the day you can have like 3 pics and you good. But the standards have skyrocketed and guys are optimizing their profiles. So harder to get away with a mediocre profile.
/r/seduction20/06/22 12:41 AM
1

Like 99% of guys here are aiming to be the one night stand guy.
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:37 PM
1

Ya no she was just not interested
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:37 PM
-12

Women don’t test men they are into
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:32 PM
1

Agreed the puas never get pretty girls
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:05 PM
0

Agreed she’s either into you or isnt
/r/seduction19/06/22 01:02 PM
2

Because there’s a better option in her DMs, dating app, etc.
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:21 AM
3

She’s nice to you because she’s at work. 100% you get rejected but shoot your shot I guess…
/r/seduction19/06/22 04:18 AM
-2

You are at a disadvantage. Social media great way to show lifestyle, social proof, your looks, etc. You don’t need to be an influencer but having a good IG with 700 + followers is good enough.
/r/seduction18/06/22 11:15 PM
1

Delivered = read
/r/seduction18/06/22 11:14 PM
1

But vast majority of men want these kind of women. Majority of men don’t want chubby girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 11:13 PM
2

Well I’m gonna assume yes because those friends know their dating situation and know if they’re looking. Also some friends tell me “X is interested in you.”
/r/seduction18/06/22 11:12 PM
0

Slim doesn’t mean gymmed out insta model potential tho. And how slim are they? Regardless men don’t want chubby girls if they had to pick. Gymmed out ig model type body get the pick vs chubby girl with just a fat ass any day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:20 PM
2

Majority of dudes don’t want fat chicks. They want the gymmed out toned bodies with big tits and ass. If you can pull that then we can talk, but you are not. Why? Because their SMV is just way too high for a 5’6 balding guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:14 PM
14

I mean most of my friends tell me they have someone that wants to meet. Get your social media up, you don’t need thousands of followers but your presence needs to be felt in these social circles.
/r/seduction18/06/22 08:37 PM
5

Agreed
/r/seduction18/06/22 08:33 PM
2

No one owes you anything even politeness
/r/seduction18/06/22 07:13 PM
11

You perfectly described why online dating is great for introverts.
/r/seduction18/06/22 05:59 PM
-3

Eh maybe you aged poorly? Maybe you balded? Whatever the case is dating apps are going to be meta and here to stay. Just try to max out your profile. Iv been using dating apps for the past 6 years and the experience is better in my opinion. Granted I take pics almost everyday. Covid definitely increased the competition but it was inevitable.
/r/seduction18/06/22 05:56 PM
1

Just have a good profile and non of this applies to you.
/r/seduction18/06/22 05:52 PM
7

Sorry but girls don’t care about money on tinder. Especially the hot ones that are from a rich family. Yeah impossible to tell you without looking at your profile.
/r/seduction18/06/22 08:11 AM
4

Maybe your profile ain’t good. But yes bars are basically real life dating apps I rly don’t see the difference. If you do well on tinder you definitely do well in bars. It’s not like there’s some super playboy out there that’s killing it and not on apps it just doesn’t make sense. Every guy I know that have options kill it on apps and irl. The guys ik that are dusty are doing poorly on apps and irl.
/r/seduction18/06/22 07:59 AM
1

Tough
/r/seduction18/06/22 06:02 AM
5

For not wanting to talk to a stranger ? Lol
/r/seduction18/06/22 05:59 AM
77

Plenty of guys that have their stuff together aren’t getting laid due to height and face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 05:51 AM
5

Agreed. Whenever I see a short confident guy hitting up the girls in my friend group I cringe inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:58 AM
2

Yup. Perfectly said
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:20 AM
0

That’s how iv been getting with girls the past 6 years… The people that shit on online dating are the ones that didn’t do well on it. Also in the next 5 years online dating is going to keep getting popular. IG is a dating app. Every girls that is remotely attractive is on IG. If you hate on it you a boomer
/r/seduction18/06/22 12:46 AM
6

An ugly guy basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:15 PM
-1

Lol at the suggestions: libraries, schools, classes. Like no woman wants to be hit on in these settings bro
/r/seduction17/06/22 07:14 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:46 PM
1

I never cold approach.
/r/seduction17/06/22 03:17 PM
1

Guys here don’t get matches lol so they have to cold approach in these spaces
/r/seduction17/06/22 03:14 PM
1

Guys here don’t get matches lol
/r/seduction17/06/22 03:13 PM
1

I knew plenty of 18 year olds that were getting laid. A lot of 30 year olds are bald
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:52 AM
7

Same. Most couples are looks matched. Maybe 1-2 point disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:03 AM
3

That’ll never happen. As long as young men want sex they will be on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:58 AM
2

Meh, the whole issue is that so many men are just low value. Going after older women doesn’t raise your value in their eyes. You’ll just be getting with the low value older women. If you struggle with women around your age, you’re going to struggle regardless who you go after.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:45 AM
9

Ya I think he just came here to flex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:44 AM
4

They don’t care. Also 30s isn’t the hard wall as many coping men make it out to be. Plenty of women are pretty blkpilled about their looks. They be gyming and botoxing, and with modern cosmetic procedures they do slow down that wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:44 AM
0

Ummm what age you going for?
/r/seduction17/06/22 01:38 AM
1

Ya it’s the trend tho. Online dating is only going to get more popular
/r/seduction16/06/22 08:34 PM
1

I agree with that but it doesn’t change the fact online dating is becoming more and more the norm. I also think majority of young men are looking more for quick fun than long term.
/r/seduction16/06/22 07:49 PM
4

I think because most guys don’t look good at all. They balding, skin issues, not in shape, didn’t have retainers which resulted in bad jaws, bad teeth, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 07:37 PM
1

I don’t think that’s true. More and more couples are meeting online due to the wide selection. Also confidence, tone, etc matter but not as much as face, height, money.
/r/seduction16/06/22 07:32 PM
2

They nvr had sex with the avg guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:24 PM
7

So are they supposed to have sex with that avg guy? Or? What’s the solution here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:18 PM
0

You’re just shooting your self in the foot by not having it. IG is basically a dating app. Iv gotten a few hookups just by DMing girls. Also IG is good way to show social proof and great to link with your tinder.
/r/seduction16/06/22 05:32 PM
18

Ya well guys do the same lol
/r/seduction16/06/22 05:29 PM
1

Ok so if he texted differently do you think he would have gotten the no flake?
/r/seduction16/06/22 05:27 PM
1

Bro if the co worker likes me I would be asking to “chill” right away. Why would I talk about all this other shit. Push pull doesn’t exist. I only text asking girls to chill nothing else and every guy should.
/r/seduction16/06/22 02:35 PM
1

I agree with you that you need thick skin. But isn’t your matches a good indication of your dating market value ? An avg guy won’t get much results because girls don’t like avg.
/r/seduction16/06/22 02:10 PM
1

You got played
/r/seduction16/06/22 02:07 PM
1

You can’t build attraction through texts. She’s either into you or isn’t. No texting strategy will create attraction if it isn’t there.
/r/seduction16/06/22 02:06 PM
9

Naw sex is pretty lit. Anyone here who disagrees is coping. Everything we do as men is to get pussy at the end of the day.
/r/seduction16/06/22 02:05 PM
0

You didn’t do anything wrong. She probably matched with someone else, that’s the nature of the game.
/r/seduction16/06/22 01:59 PM
1

He didn’t do anything wrong
/r/seduction16/06/22 01:58 PM
2

Who knows we don’t know her. If it rly intrigues you that much ask her to hang out.
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:59 PM
1

This is why I don’t ask out co workers
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:58 PM
1

It’s all online now, and will be even more so In the future. Also you’re a pick up artist? Aren’t those guys like outdated?
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:00 PM
6

That’ll never happen tho
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:22 PM
6

BecUse they are the one posting it and showing you the highlights. At the end of the day it is a business for them. The guys who get the MOST are not posting it and just enjoying
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:18 PM
0

Lol I can send you my online dating receipts if you want. Not sure why everyone here starts attacking people when they go against their beliefs.
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:08 PM
-1

Lol I’m good bro. Stop projecting. I’m just saying confidence without any substance doesn’t make sense. Anyways confidence literally doesn’t matter when it comes to attraction.
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:06 PM
1

Confidence comes from results and success. If someone loses everytime how can They be confident ?
/r/seduction15/06/22 05:05 PM
4

Agreed 100%. Push pull doesn’t matter if she’s not interested from the get go. She don’t care if you confident if you not her type and shorter than her. Social media/dating apps is finally waking men up.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:58 PM
0

If a guy isn’t up to par in anything but is confident then that’s just delusion. You need to be confident in something it can’t just be from within
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:56 PM
1

Never lead with your wallet.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:55 PM
5

You’re not as attractive as you think if you not getting your looksmatch regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:50 AM
50

Men with options move on faster
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:42 AM
19

Lol
/r/seduction15/06/22 03:20 AM
3

Tinder
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:10 PM
3

Because you lack options. The way to fix this mindset is to get more options. When you have options you just don’t care about messing up
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:08 PM
1

Agreed
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:49 PM
2

Face first then height
/r/seduction14/06/22 05:42 PM
3

Exactly, because the guy can’t even make it past the looks filter
/r/seduction14/06/22 03:08 AM
-2

Lol then explain why good guys don’t get matches on tinder ?
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:57 AM
31

Looks for sure. No woman sees a number on a bank account and gets wet. Also leading with your wallet is just going to end up badly, seen it way too many times.
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:55 AM
2

When has she flirted? Have you even spoke to her? So many guys think they getting checked but end up getting rejected lol
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:27 AM
0

This is the fakest thing ever
/r/seduction14/06/22 01:16 AM
-1

Cuz your SMV isn’t as high as you think it is…. From what you described you have ok wealth and ok looks since dating apps aren’t working for you
/r/seduction13/06/22 09:28 PM
1

Mixed signals means she doesn’t take you seriously as in she’s not actually going to do anything with you. It’s just a wAy to validate herself
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:56 PM
1

You didn’t fuck up just low interest
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:47 PM
1

Go with gf’s friends to clubs, festivals, etc. Other dudes naturally gravitate and wanna be friends with you. These dudes also have gf’s with friends and you “befriend” them. When you and your gf break up you have a connect with this new social circle. They inv you to things with their friends (contains girls) Repeat process
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:46 PM
1

This debunks this sub’s philosophies so be careful lol.
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:44 PM
2

His advices are so corny lol
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:42 PM
2

Rejection here and there is ok. If you constantly get rejected then I think you need to look hard in the mirror and be honest with yourself. Don’t be ignorant to it
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:40 PM
4

More men need to understand this
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:38 PM
1

getting results
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:38 PM
1

Mixed signals doesn’t mean anything
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:37 PM
10

Good job, good school, and own place doesn’t turn on women. No women sees an unattractive guy and suddenly gets sexually interested when they see that they have their own place.
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:36 PM
5

Plenty of introverted dudes get success. I don’t understand where this notion that you have to be some loud guy. I know plenty of dudes that are quiet and get plenty of girls coming up to them. Although they are good looking and tall
/r/seduction13/06/22 06:35 PM
1

because they are fed with the notion that they can improve their situation. Which is true, they can improve it and when they finally get that one girl (avg) they settle immediately. The incels are the ones that want that player life style but can’t get it. Once they realize it won’t happen for them they go that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:51 PM
3

Majority of men are not sleeping around like that. Most guys have little value in the dating market and have low body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 06:02 PM
15

guys aren’t realistic tho. So many guys swear they are being checked out by their gym crush. Or being checked out by their coworkers. And when they ask them out and get rejected they get mad and make the whole thing awkward. I feel like as a man if you want to see what your standing is in the dating market. Make a tinder and see the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:23 PM
59

So many dudes be thinking they getting checked out and looked at. But in reality it’s a coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:47 AM
2

Meh if they’re hot then they are high value
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:40 AM
1

Delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:12 PM
1

Same argument can be made for you. You leave the west due to too high cost of living. We’ll get your money up. Also I highly doubt that’s the real reason.
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:58 AM
0

Have like a 3 girl rotation
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:29 AM
2

Nah man America has some of the finest women. Especially in LA.
/r/seduction08/06/22 09:01 AM
0

Balding old sexpats are a well known thing. Then they come back to face reality and tell their friends how much pussy they were getting. Which was what this post was about.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:41 AM
1

I know. They want the money not the man. I can’t believe this argument lol
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:38 AM
0

Ok we agree on the England thing which is what I was talking about. However I disagree that 70% of women are unattracted in the west.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:31 AM
0

Hahahah are you seriously saying the escort is attracted ? What is this.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:30 AM
-3

Then explain how avg guys get more women there but get nothing in the west? And no girl is going to outright ask about visas and shit. But they will ask for money.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:15 AM
0

Then explain how avg guys get more women in these countries but get shit all back home? I never said you can only get chicks by money? What the fuck are you talking about? Most guys that get chicks are good looking.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:15 AM
1

Escorts don’t count. They are doing a job they aren’t actually attracted.
/r/seduction08/06/22 08:09 AM
4

Yes if you are attractive they know you get bitches.
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:14 AM
25

Exactly. You don’t know shit if you picking up girls from 3rd world countries. You literally fled the west because you couldn’t compete. Pathetic smh.
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:13 AM
7

Exactly. Someone had to say it. If you pick up girls from 3rd world countries it don’t count bro.
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:12 AM
1

It’s not normal.
/r/seduction08/06/22 03:28 AM
1

Are you approaching women way younger? Or are they drunk? Too little info to tell you
/r/seduction08/06/22 03:27 AM
2

No they either into you or not
/r/seduction08/06/22 03:22 AM
2

Just not interested
/r/seduction08/06/22 03:20 AM
4

Everyone is shallow
/r/seduction07/06/22 11:01 PM
4

? I mean if a guy who is clearly better looking and richer is on tinder. That guy will get picked over the avg looking cold approach guy.
/r/seduction07/06/22 09:53 PM
0

I wonder what those stats are now. I think more women are def gotten in tinder
/r/seduction07/06/22 09:52 PM
2

Rising standards. More options for women.
/r/seduction07/06/22 09:46 PM
1

Exactly avg man gets bad results. Good looking men get their pick
/r/seduction07/06/22 09:46 PM
1

This debunks game
/r/seduction07/06/22 09:42 PM
25

Lol she don’t care bro
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:44 PM
7

So you aren’t rich, tall, or particularly good looking but you want a hot woman? You have to ask yourself what you bring to the table and why these hot girls would want you. For me I updated my pics and looks on online dating and in turn got interest from hotter girls.
/r/seduction06/06/22 04:07 PM
0

I don’t need to
/r/seduction06/06/22 08:28 AM
3

I didn’t say stay your bedroom. I said you should go with a group of friends. It alleviates pressure and gives you social proof. Especially if the group is good looking themselves. And also looks definitely do matter. They aren’t everything but they are important.
/r/seduction06/06/22 04:02 AM
0

Hmm? I think I have more than you at my age. Are you rly saying if your girl had a chance to get with him she’d say nah?
/r/seduction06/06/22 02:19 AM
0

Because this sub hates anything that goes against their beliefs. Reason why everyone here strugglez
/r/seduction06/06/22 01:57 AM
2

That’s tough. Are you sure you got literally 0 likes and matches? Or likes and matches from you want?
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:25 PM
0

So just because others are not doing it. That means it’s the right thing to do? No couples I know met through cold approach.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:24 PM
1

Yes but most prefer non bald men. So that eliminates you from a chunk of women.
/r/seduction05/06/22 11:22 PM
4

Meh. If a girl was approached by Justin Bieber she’s drop anything and anyone for him. The cold truth is that she wasn’t interested in what you had to offer.
/r/seduction05/06/22 10:33 PM
-1

Physical shape is overrated for men. Just don’t be fat and don’t be skinny. What’s your height? Are you balding? Is your nose huge? How much money we talking ? It’s great that you are social and outgoing. But that doesn’t mean dates either. How are you doing in tinder?
/r/seduction05/06/22 10:31 PM
0

Well what have you done? Gym, haircut, smell, mindset don’t count btw. Those are like minimum stuff.
/r/seduction05/06/22 09:41 PM
6

Are you sure those latinas and asians were not prositutes? Well to answer your question: They have better options.
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:59 PM
1

That’s not game tho really. What if a 5’4 bald guy was trying to win girls over by being authentic. How successful do you think that guy is?
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:58 PM
1

WhT you described is not game. You just described looks. If guys can win girls on personality then why do some great guys not get any matches on tinder? Yes you can scare off girls, but what hot guy is dumb enough to do that? Hot guys are very socially calibrated and aren’t shy.
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:57 PM
2

This is what comes with cold approach and that’s why I nvr recommend. You just don’t know who is crazy.
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:43 PM
1

Find something else to focus on. Not every guy will succeed in dating like how every guy will not succeed in school. Finding a gf is def possible for you. However having a hot gf is not a guarantee. So come to peace with that.
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:40 PM
8

Well if you get rejected here and there that’s fine. Probably just not her type. But if you get mass rejected. No swipes on tinder. No interest from any girls. Then you are low value. That’s just facts.
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:30 PM
2

No such thing as game. She’s either attracted to you or isn’t. If she’s attracted you can say whatever and she will go with it.
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:15 PM
1

Working on yourself doesn’t mean results will occur
/r/seduction05/06/22 08:14 PM
1

That’s decent. I think you can get a gf for sure. but idk if you are gonna be having 10 hoes on the side.
/r/seduction05/06/22 07:34 PM
1

Well the interactions happen before the club like at the pre. The club is just where you go to make out and dance with them. Also there are areas where you can talk. Like at the bar area bathroom area. There are places. But yeah trying to talk on the dance floor or main area is cringe don’t do it. Especially if they complete strangers.
/r/seduction05/06/22 07:28 PM
1

I’m in Canada too. Night game and tinder is pre damn good here. Idk anyone who day games and idk the success in Canada would be like. But I’m not gonna comment on your looks. Your tinder results will tell you about that.
/r/seduction05/06/22 07:22 PM
1

Where do you live? In North America?
/r/seduction05/06/22 07:06 PM
2

She’s either into you or not.
/r/seduction05/06/22 07:04 PM
1

Night game is great if you know what you doing. Always have a group of friends. (Social proof) Look good. Most girls I get from night game are girls that I matched with on tinder before. I usually open with that and ask if they wanna join us. i never cold approach a complete stranger unless they make it obvious. Like they approach me first. I only cold approach girls that are acquaintances with the ppl from my social circle. They usually in the same age bracket and life stage and there’s more in…
/r/seduction05/06/22 07:02 PM
2

Lol maybe for you
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:58 PM
1

Have some side chicks and hit them up when you feel that way
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:56 PM
5

Maybe you don’t like girls?
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:55 PM
5

What? I’d say it’s uncommon. Most couples are looks match. There is the odd couple where the girl is way hotter than the guy. But that is the exception.
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:53 PM
0

Are you hot or not? Daygame won’t be much better in terms of success. But rejection won’t be as harsh lol. I recommend online. I do well in clubs when I have a girl with me lol.
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:51 PM
0

I agree with this. Way too many eager guys nowadays
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:48 PM
-2

You alone at the club sends the wrong msg. How old are you and the girls? How good looking are you? How tall are you? These all matter. Any bad answer probably explains the harsh treatment.
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:46 PM
2

Not true attraction
/r/seduction05/06/22 06:42 PM
1

Exactly, a random good looking body doesn’t turn on women like men. Face, height, age, are more important factors
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:28 PM
20

Facemaxx
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:27 PM
3

Exactly online dating is going to be more and more popular as time goes on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:25 AM
-6

Online
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:07 AM
2

Rising standards, more men getting apps, increasing competition,
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:07 AM
1

Majority of women are fucking the top tier guys. Trust.
/r/seduction05/06/22 02:06 AM
10

Down bad
/r/seduction04/06/22 07:16 PM
5

She’s either attracted to you or isn’t
/r/seduction04/06/22 07:16 PM
2

Lol I agree with you. But whenever leagues are brought up there are delusional posters that say they don’t. They clearly do.
/r/seduction04/06/22 09:28 AM
5

Who the hell is offering that?
/r/seduction04/06/22 09:27 AM
3

So you think cold approach is efficient? Please back it up. Because there is plenty of data proving cold approach to be very inefficient.
/r/seduction04/06/22 03:02 AM
1

How are you doing on tinder?
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:27 AM
1

Tinder. If you can’t get some on tinder. There’s some problems
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:27 AM
0

Cold approach inefficient
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:24 AM
0

Standards are increasing more looks focused
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:23 AM
65

All these coaches are scam artists
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:22 AM
-4

No such thing as game
/r/seduction03/06/22 07:29 PM
3

It doesn’t, the advice work on yourself is a meme at this point. Attraction goes farther than what you got.
/r/seduction03/06/22 07:27 PM
3

Low interest and she don’t owe shit
/r/seduction03/06/22 07:25 PM
7

None of this matters. She’s either into you or isn’t
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:53 PM
2

I thought leagues didn’t exist according to this sub lol
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:52 PM
1

It will be tho. And no the only one that matters is Instagram.
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:51 AM
2

But there are many ppl here that shit on ppl that use OLD. Telling them they are too scared to approach lol
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:47 AM
1

Cold approach is a giant waste of time compared to online
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:46 AM
3

Not real attraction tho
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:41 AM
1

There are still consequences tho
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:35 AM
1

You’re delusional if you think dating isn’t moving towards more and more online
/r/seduction03/06/22 05:27 AM
23

Loool that advice is a meme
/r/seduction02/06/22 08:54 AM
-1

Online
/r/seduction01/06/22 09:51 PM
2

So other ppl call you desperate but you conclude with persuasive lol
/r/seduction01/06/22 09:49 PM
2

Yes to answer your question
/r/seduction01/06/22 09:47 PM
16

You aren’t high on her priority list
/r/seduction01/06/22 06:57 PM
2

I thought cold approach was more efficient than old lol
/r/seduction01/06/22 06:55 PM
2

Not rly. The dating scene is moving more and more online. Instagram is a dating app, and these girls (hot) be getting 100s of DMs everyday. So to think a guy who doesn’t work out and is confident about it is just sabotaging himself.
/r/seduction31/05/22 10:49 PM
1

Come on bruh, the goal is to get the dates. The dates aren’t the bonus.
/r/seduction29/05/22 12:36 AM
2

Exactly, if you aren’t her type or she’s not looking then you won’t stand out. Especially when her DMs are flooded with good looking guys.
/r/seduction28/05/22 10:53 PM
1

Yes online is more efficient because you can talk to multiple women in minutes. Especially with matches the probability of them wanting to actually get with you is higher.
/r/seduction28/05/22 10:48 PM
1

That’s the exception not the rule how many couples out of 1000s of couples do you see are like that?
/r/seduction28/05/22 10:42 PM
-3

Nice analysis. This is why cold approach is dead. I hate when ppl here say it’s more efficient than online dating or any other method. It rly is the most inefficient I’d say. Because of the randomness to it.
/r/seduction28/05/22 10:39 PM
-6

Are you a baddie yourself? Do you meet their standards and are you their type? Rich, jacked, good looking, tall, etc If not then you will have a tough time. Do you match with these type of girls on tinder at least? If no then you aren’t their type.
/r/seduction28/05/22 10:36 PM
12

Everything u said is true but ppl hate it
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:42 PM
3

So you don’t think there’s any validity to what he’s saying?
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:32 PM
0

Lol nvr would make a girl like that my gf
/r/seduction28/05/22 05:38 AM
5

Looks should be first
/r/seduction28/05/22 02:41 AM
1

The baddies only go for good looking fuck boys so unless you fit those standards you will have a hard time. Also they get like 1000s of dms and matches. And most baddies I talked tell me that they are lazy to reply to all of them cuz there’s literally 1000s
/r/seduction27/05/22 08:49 PM
4

And then they congratulate you for getting rejected lol
/r/seduction27/05/22 08:36 PM
5

Lol mentioning looks matter gets you banned here. Truth: looks matter like a lot. Especially the younger generation of women. Looks matter the most.
/r/seduction27/05/22 08:35 PM
-4

Girls do not want to be approached at the gym
/r/seduction27/05/22 08:31 PM
2

Good job on the match. It’s a good sign. But unfortunately these girls are flooded with high quality options. (Including you) So to stand out you gotta get her out quick , ask to call on the phone that works for me. But don’t feel bad if the convo dies
/r/seduction26/05/22 12:43 AM
1

Please dont
/r/seduction26/05/22 12:41 AM
-1

Lol no it’s called delusion
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:29 PM
0

Looks matter just as much for women
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:24 PM
2

You can’t game a girl if there’s no attraction
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:23 PM
1

Lol good luck
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:21 PM
2

Ok so 5’5 Indian balding janitor just has to believe he’s the shit and will be fine right??!
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:20 PM
2

So many factors tho. These guys that look like shit are usually not as shit looking as you think they are. Also level of women. If they’re not cute at least then it don’t count.
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:19 PM
2

Looks for sure because you can just hop on tinder and have your pick. But status can help a lot. But is harder to achieve.
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:12 PM
8

It’s not a numbers game for the high value guy.
/r/seduction25/05/22 08:07 PM
1

You’re talking about an extreme outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:10 AM
1

Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:09 AM
2

Eh it’s not as much time as you’re making it out to be. Just talking a couple hours for long term fwbs is pretty worth it. And when you already have 2-3 on rotation, it gets easier to stack those numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:08 AM
1

You sound bitter
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:57 AM
1

But I thought mens value increases with age lol
/r/seduction25/05/22 03:36 AM
0

This is cope
/r/seduction25/05/22 03:34 AM
1

Those stats are pre good considering your height on a super shallow app. My success rate is about 5 lays every 35-50 matches i get.
/r/seduction25/05/22 03:33 AM
2

Where is the proof that it is guaranteed better? All iv seen is posts here talking about cold approaching leading to flakes more often
/r/seduction25/05/22 03:31 AM
2

Unless is results in significant upgrade in physical attractiveness then no. Working on yourself isn’t going to magically get women to get an interest in you
/r/seduction25/05/22 03:29 AM
1

I don’t approach I just invite girls over from tinder. And yes the threshold is quite high for attractive women that bring a lot of value.
/r/seduction24/05/22 01:37 AM
11

She gave an example. Social circles mingled. If you don’t have a social circle then you got bigger problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:02 PM
1

Ofc your bros are gonna hype you up. If you aren’t getting results from tinder after getting good photos then it might be because you just aren’t in that good looking/hot category. And that’s ok because the majority of men are not in that category.
/r/seduction23/05/22 02:22 PM
3

Interaction doesn’t mean anything if there isn’t the initial attraction. If you don’t pass her attractiveness threshold. No amount of charm will make her attracted to your
/r/seduction23/05/22 02:18 PM
1

It’s either you attractive or you not. No amount of theory is going to help you with apps
/r/seduction23/05/22 10:06 AM
14

She’s not interested.
/r/seduction23/05/22 04:38 AM
1

It’s the most inefficient way yes
/r/seduction23/05/22 04:38 AM
-1

This is the truth. People act like Tinder or online dating doesn’t represent reality. But it does because the top tinder guys get a lot of irl play. Guy who don’t do well tinder usually don’t do well in person due to reasons they don’t do well on tinder. Looks, height, status. You think when they turn off the app these things don’t matter?
/r/seduction23/05/22 04:36 AM
1

Self improvement doesn’t equal to dating success. Not unless you become a celebrity or something. Anyways impossible to tell if you are attractive without pics. Especially for tinder. There’s probably something big missing
/r/seduction23/05/22 04:33 AM
2

Then they weren’t that into you. Sure they probs liked you but didn’t like you enough to fuck
/r/seduction23/05/22 02:30 AM
4

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:27 AM
6

Lol was gonna say ut
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:23 AM
0

But I thought cold approach was the answer?
/r/seduction21/05/22 07:42 AM
-6

Never ever cold approach
/r/seduction21/05/22 07:41 AM
14

Lol you her sponsor mate
/r/seduction21/05/22 12:53 AM
2

She got piped by someone else
/r/seduction20/05/22 12:38 AM
1

Cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:02 PM
0

Not the same at all. To msg you need to match first. That means the women needed to swipe on you and it’s an indication. Approaching women randomly on street without indication is harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 05:56 PM
3

She fuckin someone else
/r/seduction19/05/22 05:47 PM
3

Lol a good insta can change a maybe to a yes
/r/seduction19/05/22 05:46 PM
-1

Cold approaching is not a normal thing to do. Stick to online it’s clearly working for you or run social circle works well too
/r/seduction19/05/22 05:42 PM
1

That’s not the point. The argument was that groups of women like the same kind of guy thus lower spectrum of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:09 AM
4

I can guarantee your friends husband has never ran through groups of girlfriends before
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:25 AM
6

Bro being fit is so overrated. Just don’t be too fat or too skinny. A good looking normal body guy is gonna win everytime against a gymmed out ugly dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:07 AM
2

This. You can’t be using celebs as example. Caleb was not a celeb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:05 AM
0

Pics or you embarassed don’t need to show face. Also thick means slim waist with fat ass and thighs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:02 AM
13

Face? Status? Money? You didn’t mention any of these. Gymming after a certain point doesn’t do shit for SMV I’m gonna assume they are all lean and pretty boys which is a growing niche.
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:29 AM
30

Exactly he don’t know shit
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:27 AM
2

Again nvr cold approach in these environments. Only night clubs, bars, house parties, frat parties
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:25 AM
2

He cap
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:34 AM
6

Looks matter the most idc what anyone says. Money is also very important due to the influence. But good looks is correlated with income.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:45 PM
16

Height matters a lot but you only have to be tall enough
/r/seduction18/05/22 08:30 PM
0

You are overestimating the charm factor. Cold approach is very shallow when you think about it. You are approaching her for her looks, she doesn’t know you, so she goes by what she sees. Which is looks. This is why the argument that cold approach is better than OLD doesn’t make sense. In cold approach, you can get rejected before you even start talking. Like OLD not getting the match.
/r/seduction18/05/22 01:20 AM
-5

No women in general don’t want to be cold approached….
/r/seduction18/05/22 12:16 AM
-2

Like 5 lays for every 30-40 matches. Which is better than any cold approach stat unless you a celeb.
/r/seduction17/05/22 10:38 PM
-3

Lol the amount of posts I see of ppl saying that have a 1% success rate tells me enough about cold approach. While I’m here messaging my matches and inviting them over while not wasting a second.
/r/seduction17/05/22 10:35 PM
1

She just being nice she’s literally a nurse that’s her job
/r/seduction17/05/22 10:28 PM
-7

Use dating apps if they work for you, way more efficient than cold approach.
/r/seduction17/05/22 10:25 PM
2

? Yes you can lol. Clubs is all about physical attraction
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:21 PM
2

He was probs more attractive or her type. Also shorter doesn’t always mean less attractive. He probs had a good face and nice body. And what’s nice dressing? An ugly dude with a nice shirt doesn’t make him more attractive than a plain dressed hot guy
/r/seduction17/05/22 12:23 PM
1

Sorry but face is more important and height. Being jacked is great, but so overrated. After a certain level of jacked there is a hard drop off in returns you get.
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:30 PM
1

Or with no other options
/r/seduction16/05/22 10:13 AM
-4

Idk any HVM that cold approaches. They get introduced via friends of friends, or on trip with friends of friends, or OLD. Anyone that has to resort to cold approaching is lacking something big. Like a big friend group, online presence, or just unattractive.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:46 AM
9

Yes physically. If you are unattractive then overweight and unattractive women will have interest. Hot guys get hot girls. simple.
/r/seduction16/05/22 08:44 AM
1

This rly depends. If guy is conventionally attractive his results from cold approaching will differ considerably compared to ugly guy.
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:02 AM
1

Standards are going up every year. Avg/decent=ugly now
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:00 AM
3

They are just attractive/good looking. If they were ugly and short and had that personality then they will be met with hostility.
/r/seduction16/05/22 03:36 AM
10

If you aren’t at that level don’t even waste your time
/r/seduction15/05/22 11:08 PM
1

This sub is deluded
/r/seduction15/05/22 11:08 PM
2

Eh, are you even getting these women?
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:33 PM
1

There is none. She’s either into or isn’t.
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:30 PM
2

U bf material
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:29 PM
1

Take a break and objectively look at your value as a male in this dating market
/r/seduction15/05/22 12:13 PM
2

That’s sad bruh
/r/seduction15/05/22 12:13 PM
13

Nah it’s cuz of their face and balding
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:43 AM
1

Only super insecure and unaccomplished ppl feel this way about somebody else.
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:05 AM
2

If she hasn’t brought it up already then she know you don’t qualify. For me the girl always says “hey you should meet my friend” at a party or something. But sometimes when a girl doesn’t bring it up and I bring it up first, she will say she won’t be down or something like that.
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:04 AM
2

You chubby and you short. I’d at least get into decent shape first before you approach. You’re gonna get rejected like 99% of the time as of right now tho.
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:01 AM
4

Lol the club requirements are also required in day game tho…
/r/seduction15/05/22 03:00 AM
9

Not sure why you got down voted. It’s true tho, I know so many guys that started working out like crazy but their dating lives literally remained the same. While I work out semi regularly and clean up on tinder while they in the gym all day.
/r/seduction15/05/22 02:59 AM
2

Exactly, at the end of the day results is why you’re doing it. And if you’re not getting any then you just wasting your time
/r/seduction15/05/22 02:51 AM
3

Seen this too often
/r/seduction15/05/22 02:51 AM
3

It doesn’t improve it unless you already have that baseline attractiveness. Height, good face, good networks/status. I know so many gym rats but after a point there is no more ROI. Just don’t be fat and don’t be too skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:36 AM
2

This is a problem for the majority of guys I see lol. They in better shape than their gfs. Luckily I have a gym bunny gf
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:29 AM
3

Tinder will tell you
/r/seduction15/05/22 12:24 AM
1

If you were a legit 8/10 then go on tinder.
/r/seduction15/05/22 12:22 AM
3

This is a misconception that results are “better” in real life. Do womens standards just disappear after the closing the app? Lol
/r/seduction13/05/22 06:20 PM
2

You are the side guy who she don’t fuck but will hang out and gladly let you pay for her meals
/r/seduction13/05/22 06:10 PM
1

They got the looks and connections. Which many in this sub lack
/r/seduction13/05/22 06:08 PM
1

She makes rules for you
/r/seduction13/05/22 01:48 PM
2

If you attractive it won’t be that hard.
/r/seduction13/05/22 11:56 AM
1

Also these men are not below you. If you are gonna use that mindset then they’re technically above you. Since they are smashing the girls you want.
/r/seduction13/05/22 11:50 AM
0

I think you identified it. Do you have a weak jaw? I’m gonna assume yes since you said your bone structure isn’t great. You said your frames is weak which sucks. But You sound like a pretty good catch. But like you said you are getting older and probable carrying more bf which layers over your bone structure even more. Bone structure is very important, and the bar for looks is getting higher and higher. And by quality women I’m gonna assume you are going for young hot women? Well young hot women…
/r/seduction13/05/22 11:48 AM
8

This gotta be a troll.
/r/seduction13/05/22 12:33 AM
1

Huh? Why they jealous when you havnt even asked her out ? I think you are way too in your head. From what I read I didn’t see any clear indication of interest on her end ? Have you even talked to her?
/r/seduction13/05/22 12:31 AM
1

She saw the texts but chose not to open them because she doesn’t wanna deal with it. She’s not interested is what it all comes down to.
/r/seduction13/05/22 12:28 AM
5

getting left on delivered is the same as getting left on read
/r/seduction13/05/22 12:27 AM
0

Tinder? If you were attractive I don’t see any problems.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:42 PM
1

Go for someone else that wants you? She clearly not interested. Interested girls make shit easy.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:38 PM
2

Ya this is a good way to ruin his reputation.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:37 PM
1

Lol you rly think an above avg looking girl doesn’t have options? Even avg girls have plenty of them these days. If you’re interested in her, it’s safe to assume other dudes want her too. Also you will be surprised what girls do behind closed doors. She probs don’t tell you nothing.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:36 PM
1

If you were actually good looking you would be cleaning up on tinder.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:34 PM
3

She won’t
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:28 PM
6

No matter what he said at the start wouldn’t have changed the outcome. She made up her mind way before.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:25 PM
9

Proof that women pursue desirable men
/r/seduction12/05/22 01:52 PM
1

Same, it’s very competitive there
/r/seduction12/05/22 04:01 AM
2

Def helps. But not some magic bullet that will get lots of women. There’s plenty of low bmi guys in the market
/r/seduction11/05/22 11:48 PM
2

It’s catching up in non westernized countries as well. Tinder/ insta is free.
/r/seduction11/05/22 11:45 PM
1

People that struggle on OLD usually struggle in person too. If you are getting literally 0 matches that’s a bad sign. The reasons that hold ppl back on OLD will hold you back in person. These reasons are a lack of: Looks, status, height, wealth. How are these suddenly unimportant when IRL interactions happen?
/r/seduction11/05/22 11:15 PM
3

Any major city is like this. So I don’t see how ppl can just magically do well in irl
/r/seduction11/05/22 11:13 PM
2

I thought 30-40 yo men were getting with 20 yo women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:01 PM
3

Stop the cap
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:11 AM
2

Ya they are the most desired thus are extremely picky. I’m gonna assume you jacked and that’s great but only ticks like 1/10 of their boxes.
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:34 PM
-1

We can compare tinder matches if you want…. Idk why you are coming at me. You projecting bro? You seem frustrated lol
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:33 PM
0

Lol I feel like that would be bigger blow to him. Unattractive women rejecting him?
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:19 PM
1

Cap
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:17 PM
3

They hate unattractive guys lol
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:09 PM
2

What if he gets rejected even more lol
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:08 PM
3

Lower them standards
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:07 PM
6

It means you are not what she’s looking for. Whether that’s looks, status, wealth, etc
/r/seduction10/05/22 01:05 PM
2

No
/r/seduction09/05/22 10:27 PM
0

Right but doesn’t that hot girl still want the tall rich good looking guy? I don’t think confidence alone can overcome those things in the current dating market
/r/seduction09/05/22 09:31 AM
2

I agree with this. However, if a guy let’s say only matches with fat girls and ugly girls does that mean he is himself the male equivalent? Like he gets no matches with pretty women?
/r/seduction09/05/22 09:30 AM
-6

So that shows that cold approach is ineffective right? Since that girl has access to the top men in the city
/r/seduction09/05/22 08:14 AM
-3

That’s the exception tho. Usually before that happens that girl has already slept with the hot guy from tinder.
/r/seduction09/05/22 08:12 AM
1

Go on tinder and you will find out right away
/r/seduction08/05/22 11:07 PM
1

If you aren’t attractive please do not use dating apps for your sake. Also cold approach is terrible.
/r/seduction08/05/22 10:58 PM
1

What’s the solution? Lol
/r/seduction08/05/22 10:57 PM
0

Lol how can a book change your life? Maybe your mentals but your height and finances are the same lol
/r/seduction08/05/22 10:56 PM
2

Lol don’t say that you will get banned in this sub lol
/r/seduction08/05/22 10:51 PM
2

He won’t be coming back he’s too far gone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:24 AM
6

Or she wants the better man? Like 99% of women
/r/seduction07/05/22 10:41 AM
4

Ya she’s out of your league if she’s treating you as disposable
/r/seduction07/05/22 10:40 AM
12

Look up chad fishing on youtube
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:19 AM
34

Its the little things that add up. Like too short to fit in with a group of tall guys. Not in good enough shape to talk gym with jacked dudes. Not rich enough to spend night out. Also if there are women in the group, expect them to be indifferent about you. Men want to be friends with men that give them some access to women. That’s why men with female friends have value. Usually these men are also good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:17 AM
14

Well online dating for one, which leads to access to multiple social circles through the girl you’re dating. Height? This is very cut throat in the US. Shorter men don’t stand a chance. Weight? Obviously matters especially if you are overweight. Which is prevalent in the US. Not many fat people are chilling with people in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:14 AM
66

Yes but good looking ppl are going to have opportunities to socialize where the ugly guy won’t even get the chance. There’s always that rly nice guy but he looks kinda weird or smells weird. So looks correlate with socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:03 AM
-1

Eh cold approach yields similar results. Might argue that it is more ineffective.
/r/seduction06/05/22 10:47 AM
1

What does your profile look like?
/r/seduction06/05/22 10:46 AM
6

Cold approaching at club is tough. Do you have a friend group that is well connected?
/r/seduction05/05/22 12:14 PM
0

What are these strong preferences you have? I’m a be honest, if you want hot girls you gotta be hot yourself.
/r/seduction04/05/22 12:48 AM
1

Those other ways have the same amount of flakiness and ghosting lol
/r/seduction03/05/22 08:02 PM
-1

Props for seeing it. Too many avg dudes do be entitled these days. Frustrated that they aren’t getting that hot girl. Like bruh she has rich hot guys after her, why would she settle
/r/seduction03/05/22 07:48 PM
1

Jesus this just further reinforces that cold approach is so ineffective. Think about it you are a girl, a guy approaches you (probably unattractive, attractive men clean up on tinder so they don’t need to cold approach) People are staring, you feel kinda embarassed and then you have to give a fake number to save face. Of course flakes happen. Cold approaching is just not a normal thing, most high value men get pussy by clubbing, friends of friends, house parties, insta, tinder.
/r/seduction02/05/22 10:35 PM
1

This is so sad but it’s reality. If you avg man you will be dating down.
/r/seduction02/05/22 10:28 PM
2

Good advice but at what point do you need to stop and think this is just a giant waste of time? Spending that much time walking cold approaching with very little return seems insane to me
/r/seduction02/05/22 10:24 PM
1

They hate it cuz they can’t compete
/r/seduction02/05/22 10:12 PM
7

Lol if you aren’t pulling 8+ from tinder you aren’t in their league yet. There’s a reason why these 6-7 like you. Because you are above them in the SMV scale. So you have to level up or these girls won’t entertain you.
/r/seduction01/05/22 09:30 PM
2

By being attractive to themn
/r/seduction01/05/22 08:11 PM
7

Eh a lot of guys here take things the wrong way. A girl being nice to them is flirting. A girl glancing at them equal eye fucking. A girl in their vicinity means she wants you to approach. Etc Reality is unless she makes it absolutely clear and easy for you to get with her, she wasn’t interested.
/r/seduction01/05/22 08:06 PM
-2

Attractiveness is actually pretty objective: facial symmetry, fit body, height (depending on gender), leanness, hook nose vs straight nose, etc
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:56 PM
7

There are definitely leagues…
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:38 PM
7

Rly? What if her jaw is super recessed and has a huge hook nose? Would she still be able to be a 8/10 ?
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:38 PM
2

I thought this sub said that men date above their league? Lol
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:37 PM
1

Be in the best shape possible
/r/seduction01/05/22 07:29 PM
1

No nvr random women. Dm I meant online dating.
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:07 PM
1

Game doesn’t get women out of your league. If that were true then how come I know so many men that have great dating their looksmatch? Attractive ppl want attractive ppl and looks rly matter
/r/seduction01/05/22 06:04 PM
1

Wdym they into you? When women are into you aren’t y’all talking or grinding? If yea then you casually ask for their number. After the number you asking them to “chill”. Unfortunately, a lot of dudes cannot gauge interest. And think that every girl is eyefucking them which is so untrue and unaware
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:35 PM
0

How hot the are the women you want? Decent looking isn’t what actual hot women want.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:33 PM
2

Yeah he is doing that but isn’t getting results lol. That’s a tell sign that, that person isn’t in their league. And yes leagues exist.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:32 PM
2

You just aren’t their type. We all know what hot girls want. They want the hot guy. If you are short of that then yeah they don’t want you. For those that will argue. How come there are many dudes that feel the same? They can’t get ppl who they think are their looksmatch. Why? Because tbh you aren’t on their level. Women never date down.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:29 PM
2

Lol what that girl disrespected you hard. Anyways you need to start posting ASAP dating is moving online. Everything goes down in the DM. Used to be afraid of posting but started taking pics everytime I went out. At the end of the week you will have at least a couple good ones.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:24 PM
1

I mean if you did have that you get laid MUCH easier. Way less of a grind. But ya you don’t need any of that but it’s def harder
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:17 PM
1

By being attractive. If you attractive just hop on tinder
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:15 PM
2

You don’t? For just fucking tho my standards are a little lower. -don’t be fat -don’t be crazy
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:14 PM
2

Exactly, it puts you in the chaser role. She has power over you unless you are significantly more attractive than her.
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:43 PM
8

I don’t think extending a convo by 1:30mins will get her to not flake. Cold approaching is ineffective because of the car salesman vibe. There is no history between the parties. And one side is asking for something from the other without knowing anything of that person’s status or what they seek. At least on online dating the girls are seeking something and most likely not in a relationship. Sure you will get bots, attention seekers, hustlers. But those only make a small percentage of the women.…
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:34 PM
8

Ok this is just further proof that cold approaching is ineffective af. I also took away that initial interest doesn’t mean ish which is true. Some women are just friendly and nice ppl that won’t outright reject you. PUA “tactics” also are ineffective and don’t rly make sense if you think about it. You either do it for her or you don’t. No amount of “game” will make you SEXUALLY attractive to her. “Game” is rly just not fucking up what you have (her attraction to you) Thx for the input, my OLD st…
/r/seduction30/04/22 09:09 PM
8

Exactly, it’s offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:04 AM
18

Lol you’re deluding yourself if you think you can turn around a 0 interest girl.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:55 PM
2

Interested women do not shit test, do not play games, no send mixed signals. Interested women make things easy and straightforward.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:54 PM
1

And I’ll guess these triggered dudes are having a rough time on OLD.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:53 PM
1

How is this a shit test? It just sounds like she wasn’t interested in talking. Shit tests are usually just a sign of disinterest.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:41 PM
55

Ppl in this sub need to know that if a girl doesn’t show immediate enthusiastic interest from the start, then it’s a no.
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:01 PM
5

An ugly confident guy is the equivalent to that fat bitchy girl
/r/seduction29/04/22 09:32 PM
1

Tinder set the age up
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:14 AM
0

It’s unlikely. Like you said you don’t have that much wealth, and you said you look like shit. You might be able to date that below avg-avg woman. But a fit and hot woman in her 30s or 40s? Good luck
/r/seduction29/04/22 06:51 AM
5

What? Bro I swear this sub preaches golden years for men were 30s before, now it’s 40s? I guess later it’s 50s? Intelligence, experience don’t mean jack for sexual attraction. Height, face, fitness, wealth are what attract women.
/r/seduction29/04/22 06:49 AM
1

Well if you got the looks down then I don’t see how you would be struggling.
/r/seduction29/04/22 05:47 AM
1

Ya you seem like you do well but aren’t in the top 1%. I’m gonna assume your good friend is like the only guy in your grade that gets this attention. Just tamper your expectations or level the fuck up. Which is hard and might not happen until after high school.
/r/seduction29/04/22 04:12 AM
4

You dont
/r/seduction29/04/22 04:09 AM
1

Ya if you a bunch of girls to want you you either need to be Very famous Or Very good looking (so good looking that you are TikTok famous or something)
/r/seduction29/04/22 04:08 AM
1

How to stand out? Be very good looking or very clouted
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:52 AM
3

And first impression is based on looks
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:49 AM
1

Yes gym approaching is soooo inefficient and unlikely to be successful
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:48 AM
39

Eh attractive men get the most play. Success, socialization skills, game, are all great and important but they aren’t going to get women wet. Looks matter a lot for sexual attraction, I noticed you didn’t talk about that. How would you rate yourself? Are you fit? Do you have nice skin? Teeth? Eyebrows?
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:27 AM
2

Ya but you aren’t actually high value where you live. In the back of your mind this will linger. Just giving advice
/r/seduction28/04/22 02:40 PM
7

Right? Decent advice but a huge component is having the right genetics (height, face, etc) Sure a short bald guy might have some success after maxing out. But he will always play catch up to the good looking tall guy. Always.
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:27 AM
10

Exactly. This isn’t a long term solution. Sure go there have fun in the 3rd world where you auto have a socio economic advantage. But then you have to come back home and face reality.
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:24 AM
1

This is so not true. Women know within like 5 secs if they would go out with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:23 AM
1

Please don’t say that, the pick up artists and seduction guys are going to dox you lol. But yes agreed with everything you said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:23 AM
7

Exactly, go outside and please count the number of couples where it is 40 yo man and a 20 yo hot woman. Oh yeah it will be 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:11 AM
4

This is so false. Men peak mid to late 20s. Baldness and wrinkles are killer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:10 AM
2

Not rly. How rich we talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:58 PM
1

So you don’t have the best pics and you don’t care yet you wonder why you not getting matches lol. And yes top dudes get a ton of matches. Friend got 80 matches in like an hour.
/r/seduction27/04/22 10:34 PM
1

It means low interest bro
/r/seduction27/04/22 09:05 PM
1

You literally can’t be avg on these apps or in modern dating basically. These hot girls have way too many options regardless or what these PUAs think
/r/seduction27/04/22 09:01 PM
2

How are you planning on getting the roster? Tinder? If they like you enough it doesn’t matter what you do tbh
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:48 PM
5

The game plan is you should move on. If see that interest has clearly faded that is your cue to know not pursue any more
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:03 PM
7

Nah just chill
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:02 PM
2

That’s how dating works nowadays. One day they just go cold. These girls be bombarded with options so you should expect that. Just chill and talk to other women. If she wants to meet then sure but do not message her again.
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:02 PM
7

Lol so night game is for chickens? Idk anyone who has met through a random cold approach during the day. Most ppl meet through insta dms, tinder, clubs, house parties
/r/seduction26/04/22 09:23 PM
1

So I’m gonna assume you havnt had multiple fwbs at the same time…. Update Us again when that happens because your interest is gonna drop
/r/seduction25/04/22 07:50 AM
2

Do not ask out working women Jesus
/r/seduction25/04/22 07:47 AM
2

dating for men is their casual success. Casual success means you are attractive (as a man)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:53 PM
16

This proves that older men are not prime like redpillers say. Shouldn’t sugar moms be more prevalent if they hit the wall rly bad and men keep glowing up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 08:27 PM
3

You havnt tried and you don’t like it?
/r/seduction24/04/22 08:23 PM
5

So you shit on other dudes calling them manlets and ugly and wonder why these cute girls don’t fuck with you lol. I can guarantee these guys are better looking than you say they are. Men always overrate themselves and underrate other men I noticed
/r/seduction24/04/22 08:17 PM
1

You rated yourself an 8 but you don’t like dating apps?
/r/seduction24/04/22 08:13 PM
5

Because the girl has a better option on her phone lol
/r/seduction24/04/22 08:10 PM
0

Eh unless you in the top 1% it will be tough to sleep with new ATTRACTIVE women consistently.
/r/seduction24/04/22 08:08 PM
1

Why are you hanging out with girls that aren’t you type?
/r/seduction24/04/22 08:07 PM
39

It’s generally known that getting jacked does not equal to dating success. It helps but it isn’t going to elevate you that much
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:49 PM
1

Personality important for friendships but I agree the advice of working on your personality and you will find success is so false.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/22 08:42 AM
1

She didn’t want confrontation (she doesn’t know you or how you would react). She is too shy to tell you off. Friends saw her uncomfortable and stepped In.
/r/seduction24/04/22 08:40 AM
-1

This sub is mostly about self improvement and finding ways to maximize their dating options. This sub has moved away from the PUA stuff. The general consensus here is that if a girl does NOT find you attractive then no amount of “game” will get to like you like that.
/r/seduction24/04/22 07:16 AM
4

No they should just optimize their profile properly. Go look at the profile reviews on tinder sub. These profiles of avg dudes expecting fit girls is comical.
/r/seduction24/04/22 06:27 AM
3

Huh? I definitely don’t OFTEN see an avg dude with a hot girl. That’s very rare. I often see an avg skinny dude with a fat girl. Also game can’t cause attraction
/r/seduction24/04/22 06:26 AM
2

That means you aren’t a man they want. So be come that thru self improvement
/r/seduction23/04/22 11:04 PM
1

I’m pretty sure there are many interesting good looking people. Also good looking people can develop personality traits too…. The world isn’t so black and white
/r/ExRedPill23/04/22 07:57 PM
1

All the old dudes are triggered af relax. Just because you have gotten with a younger woman. Doesn’t mean that the norm.
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:48 PM
2

Ppl here rly hate to see that
/r/seduction23/04/22 09:19 AM
1

Exactly, there are levels to this. Fat/ugly women are down to play with anyone regardless of the guy’s value….. Fat/ugly women are still low value regardless of age.
/r/seduction23/04/22 04:23 AM
3

Well the quality of those women matter. Also why are you so mad? Reality is 40 year old avg dudes aren’t banging hot 20 year olds. That’s not toxic that’s just facts.
/r/seduction23/04/22 03:34 AM
2

Plz do not waste your money on that. Fact is unless you look extremely good for your age, have clout or money. Getting hot women in their 20s is a pipe dream. It’s common coping mechanisms to tell younger men that struggle in dating that things get better in their 30s, 40s. But that’s just not the case unless you have extreme wealth. Also try tinder and if you get matches with women in their 20s I’m wrong I guess. But I highly highly doubt it.
/r/seduction23/04/22 03:18 AM
2

Good job?
/r/seduction23/04/22 03:14 AM
15

You sure you attractive? Attractive women I know don’t struggle at all
/r/seduction23/04/22 03:13 AM
15

Lol
/r/seduction23/04/22 03:13 AM
0

5’9 pretty boy jacked > 6’3 jacked avg face Everytime
/r/seduction23/04/22 02:42 AM
1

How bad is the asymmetry? I’m thinking of getting this too but most docs don’t recommend unless it’s very bad. But it does help overall appearance but not perfect
/r/seduction22/04/22 10:02 PM
1

Ya clubs communication is like 90% non verbal
/r/seduction22/04/22 10:01 PM
2

Bro there are so many baddies and high value women at the club and parties. Also if you are asking this question you need to also check your own value. What do you bring to the table?
/r/seduction22/04/22 09:59 PM
2

Getting jacked and dressing better isn’t enough in the dating world 2022. You are competing against so many men now due to social media and dating apps. Instagram is a dating app.
/r/seduction22/04/22 09:57 PM
1

Move on bruh. She told her friend she was worried that you might like her. If she was interested = no mixed signals
/r/seduction21/04/22 08:22 PM
3

Don’t do anything unless they approach you. If you approach them…. Good luck lol
/r/seduction21/04/22 08:18 PM
1

Lol I love how no asked but what do you look like ?
/r/seduction21/04/22 07:56 PM
3

Then why did she ghost you? Trust me, iv made that excuse for girls I didn’t want to commit to. Told them I was still “recovering” from my past relationship but in reality I just wanted to keep dating around.
/r/seduction20/04/22 10:13 PM
-2

It’s a sweet lie told in this sub that real life will be better than online dating. Truth is if you have a shitty time on Tinder your irl approaches won’t be any better…
/r/seduction20/04/22 09:47 PM
3

Why would she ghost if interested? Interested girls make it easy for ppl they want
/r/seduction20/04/22 09:25 PM
15

“Game” is what PUA use to sell their courses.
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:01 AM
2

Lol this is whack not something to be proud of tbh
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:00 AM
3

right? On this sub: if you use ig or OLD you are either avoiding cold approach or seeking validation smh
/r/seduction20/04/22 04:50 AM
1

Having a decent ig > no ig You don’t have to have a crazy ig. An ig is good to make sure you not some outcast creep with no friends.
/r/seduction20/04/22 04:46 AM
8

If she’s hot she don’t give af
/r/seduction18/04/22 07:05 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/seduction18/04/22 06:54 PM
3

Where’s the evidence it works so well? Most posts here say cold approaching is only like a 1-3% success rate
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:53 PM
0

So lots of flakes but apparently OLD is less efficient on this sub lol
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:52 PM
2

Try to hold onto it. Get on fin
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:49 PM
4

Women his age aren’t gonna dig it…
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:48 PM
1

Ok and? I think ppl know this does happen but it is definitely the exception. You rarely see it and the avg man isn’t dating a women out of his league.
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:47 PM
0

If you aren’t getting results after you have tried. Then you might need to accept reality and settle for avg
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:42 PM
4

Most men don’t see this. Most guys here would be in a relationship if they dated their looksmatch lol
/r/seduction18/04/22 04:41 PM
1

Do any of these 8-10s show interest in you ? Anywhere? If not. Good luck…
/r/seduction18/04/22 07:23 AM
1

You cold approaching?
/r/seduction18/04/22 12:02 AM
2

Nah that feeling will go away once you actuallly level up. Trust.
/r/seduction17/04/22 11:25 PM
4

Well there is a reason why it’s harder to get them because those high quality girls wants high quality guys. Everyone wants someone better but you need to be on that level. So you need to level up. Stop looking for short cuts
/r/seduction17/04/22 10:01 PM
1

That’s how you get gold diggers
/r/seduction17/04/22 06:55 PM
4

Height matters bruh
/r/seduction17/04/22 01:56 AM
2

Where you from North America?
/r/seduction16/04/22 05:14 PM
3

They are probably good looking, fun, chill. You sound very judgmental.
/r/seduction16/04/22 09:13 AM
2

I mean does it matter you’re not interested in this girl. Also the hot girls you want, want the same things. Hot girls wants hot guys. This one girl is clearly delusional but the fact you have a girl like that you know is a red flag of low value
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:40 AM
-9

Why does it bother you so much? Because deep down you know it’s whack shit
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:25 AM
0

What do you look like? If you an avg dude then you will struggle hard at the club.
/r/seduction16/04/22 08:18 AM
1

Nah just don’t wear anything terrible or I’ll fitted. But wearing nice clothes isn’t gonna suddenly make an ugly broke dude high value.
/r/seduction16/04/22 07:59 AM
9

No one cares enough to notice unless you are the life of the group
/r/seduction16/04/22 01:36 AM
2

Yes and the women will know he isn’t a catch either just by interacting/looking at hjm
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 09:36 PM
22

Their equivalent of 8-10 men. High in: looks, wealth, status, etc just everything on point
/r/seduction15/04/22 09:34 PM
-1

So?
/r/seduction15/04/22 05:04 PM
3

Oh so tell that guy to get money and status like him right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:59 PM
5

A lot of unrealistic advice here, there are definitely leagues in the dating world. One guy has more success than another for a reason. If you ain’t in her league then you gotta level up
/r/seduction15/04/22 04:59 PM
2

Your talking about a very minority of men and women that have this age gap. Usually it is a sugar daddy situation. But if the man is very high value (fame) it can be done
/r/seduction15/04/22 07:23 AM
6

You dont
/r/seduction15/04/22 07:22 AM
0

Doesn’t matter as long as you have good pics
/r/seduction15/04/22 12:21 AM
2

Doesn’t matter if you high value
/r/seduction14/04/22 11:20 PM
3

Yup low value man =prositutes High value man = real attraction
/r/seduction14/04/22 11:20 PM
1

Lol she saw the msg and is deliberately ignoring it. Does that sound salvageable? are you gonna msg her again or something?
/r/seduction14/04/22 11:17 PM
1

Rejection = you weren’t her type. Level up somehow. Also don’t approach at the gym
/r/seduction14/04/22 09:38 PM
0

Another example that a smile or a look doesn’t mean let’s link up
/r/seduction14/04/22 09:37 PM
1

Not to get hit on tho
/r/seduction14/04/22 09:37 PM
2

He’s capping hard. If he was getting those calibre girls he wouldn’t be so frustrated.
/r/seduction14/04/22 05:42 AM
12

Doesn’t work for unattractive men*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:18 AM
2

Get yourself some side chicks so you don’t care about this
/r/seduction14/04/22 02:40 AM
0

And apparently cold approaching is more efficient lol
/r/seduction14/04/22 02:39 AM
3

Leaving on read means no interest tho
/r/seduction14/04/22 02:38 AM
6

You rly think majority of single women don’t care about height?
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:37 AM
1

Ya true. That could help. But even then you will be competing no?
/r/ExRedPill14/04/22 01:32 AM
2

Someone’s mad about something lol
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:31 AM
-1

It’s gonnna be tough for you
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:14 AM
0

You proved my point tho. Ya I wouldn’t be around that circle because I’m not in the same league as them. I don’t have their status, wealth, etc
/r/seduction13/04/22 11:40 PM
2

Right but instagram is a dating app. There are many men meeting women through ig dms. And life is moving more and more Online
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 10:46 PM
1

Right but those top men still get play.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 10:31 PM
0

What guy wants a below avg/avg gf tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:32 PM
1

You are using such an extreme example. But if you are bedding fat ugly women (which is easier) then you can’t be calling yourself a high value guy. Getting the 8/10 young nice body woman is much harder and there are more requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:28 PM
1

How does it beat it? If OLD is working for me I’ll keep using it. There isn’t “beating” just doing what works best for you. And also your niche is found on OLD.
/r/seduction13/04/22 09:26 PM
1

What if the guy is balding, 5’3, old, recessed jaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:23 PM
3

No one replies to these scenarios lol. This is where redpill loses its credibility. No amount self improvement, looksmax will get a 5’3 balding dude a hot gf
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:22 PM
2

If he was that handsome this wouldn’t be an issue. Another instance of a man overstating their attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:58 PM
1

The type of women you are getting matters so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:18 PM
11

Ya even rosie O’Donnell a gonna chase hvm not the ugly uguy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:47 PM
2

8 girls can get 8-10 guys. So why would the 8 girls entertain the 6-7 guys? It’s tough out here but you can level up.
/r/seduction13/04/22 06:58 PM
3

I dont think knowing there are leagues will cause someone to stop working on themselves. In fact, I think it would push ppl to work on themselves since they know they aren’t on their level.
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:38 PM
5

Lol you’re making it sound like OLD is so easy. How’s your OLD experience going? I’m going to assume not good since you are shitting on it so much. Just because something doesn’t work for you doesn’t mean people that use it are taking the “easy way out”. Also no one cares how two ppl meet
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:34 PM
3

That’s not too short. But you wil have a harder time if you are avg compared to avg taller guy.
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:08 PM
3

so do you think you are in the same league as an NFL star? Leagues exist bro. Top value dudes get most of the play.
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:07 PM
3

It’s gonna be harder
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:03 PM
0

But you can make these arguments for IRL approaching as well. Most men that have success in dating have their niche. (Attractive, wealthy, certain race, etc)
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:59 PM
0

So you think using OLD=bad social skills?
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:56 PM
8

This is true so many dudes say they are 7/10. In reality they 5/10
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:16 AM
4

A lot of ppl overstate the amount of bots, only fans, hookers on these apps. On tinder they get banned pretty much asap. And tinder has the most real users
/r/seduction13/04/22 06:13 AM
12

OLD has gotten me laid way more than cold approach
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:40 AM
17

It’s because if something doesn’t work for them then it must be trash. That’s the vibe in this sub.
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:40 AM
0

This shows social circle game is great
/r/seduction13/04/22 05:17 AM
2

She don’t want to hear it face to face lol
/r/seduction12/04/22 11:17 PM
1

It doesn’t mean anything if the girl has lost interest
/r/seduction12/04/22 05:11 PM
10

Thought this sub preached to never lower standards lol
/r/seduction12/04/22 04:54 PM
1

Huh? There are more efficient ways he can get what he wants (dating apps) You good?
/r/seduction11/04/22 11:46 PM
1

This is a huge assumption. There will be a bunch of factors in play for this to happen.
/r/seduction11/04/22 10:35 PM
-3

This is why I never recommend cold approach lol
/r/seduction11/04/22 10:34 PM
1

Eh there’s no point in looking back at what you missed looks towards the future
/r/seduction11/04/22 01:06 AM
1

Looks matter more bro.
/r/seduction10/04/22 10:27 PM
1

Nothing, she might have liked you before but she moved on and is over it
/r/seduction10/04/22 10:26 PM
2

Listen to your gut, if things are going too easy when they normally don’t. Then something is up.
/r/seduction10/04/22 10:23 PM
1

Bruh women definitely care about height wtf
/r/seduction10/04/22 10:18 PM
1

Become a “chad” instead
/r/seduction10/04/22 09:39 PM
2

If you look good they make it very easy and obvious for you.
/r/seduction10/04/22 09:35 PM
2

If you were hot they would.
/r/seduction10/04/22 04:42 PM
6

Looks >
/r/seduction10/04/22 04:35 PM
1

Lol no one can tell you have an abundance mindset. What ppl see are looks, status, wealth.
/r/seduction10/04/22 04:33 PM
3

Lol I love how this sub ignores this
/r/seduction10/04/22 04:31 PM
1

You didn’t do anything wrong. she just has other options bruh
/r/seduction10/04/22 04:27 PM
1

Lol good luck… South asians are not highly touted. Especially since K-pop seems to help Eastern Asians. Also hilarious you think you can mog other asians because you don’t have flat nose and have eyelids. Like bruh, there are many asians like that
/r/seduction08/04/22 07:40 AM
1

You think good game is gonna realistically land his a hot girl?
/r/seduction06/04/22 03:54 PM
1

Probably achieved more than you pal
/r/seduction06/04/22 03:50 PM
1

Bro majority of women in their 20s are not with old 50 year olds. Go outside please
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:21 AM
1

Hahaha I’m not here trying to sell some shit like you buddy. Think of another strategy. Also how does grooming and confidence help the broke, ugly, 5”4 guy?
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:20 AM
1

Just curious does inner game matter if he was broke, short, and ugly?
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:19 AM
6

Anything Pua is a scam
/r/seduction05/04/22 05:17 AM
1

She saw the msg. Just chose not to reply. It’s low interest. Don’t worry about it.
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:46 AM
1

Maybe she got weirded out from you staring all the time
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:44 AM
9

To avoid the anxiety part never look at the explore page or any thirst traps. Only follow ppl you meet not celebrities. Post a few times a year just to show you aren’t weird.
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:43 AM
3

That sets you up be the extracted
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:42 AM
1

If two ppl have the resumes and same credentials same everything. But one was better looking. Who do you think is going to get hired? Also Bill Gates is like the rare exception among exceptions.
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:41 AM
2

Righhht. grooming is like the bare minimum. What you are born with is like 80% of it.
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:34 AM
-1

Some men are doomed with getting the hot girl; but they can get your avg, below avg girl, but they just won’t. The men that easily get dates are the men that are attractive. You will never see an ugly guy sleep around that much unless he is famous or something.
/r/seduction04/04/22 11:24 PM
2

Don’t listen to that weird advice, vibrance? How the hell do you see someone's vibrance ? Have you? Probably not, that’s why you questioning it
/r/seduction04/04/22 11:22 PM
-1

Well money and status are correlated to looks. So have to pick one, I’d pick looks first. Money and status easily follow.
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:59 PM
2

What? All I see is failure when guys here ask out waitresses, co workers, baristas, bartender, etc. Don’t you have some other girls? Ppl meet through social media, dating apps, social circles, the club’s nowadays.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:51 PM
-1

Bro she can do whatever she wants. I’m sure if you met a better match you’d end it too, except you did the worst thing by limiting your options.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:48 PM
1

These girls know what you want bruh
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:41 PM
4

You don’t.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:40 PM
2

You dont
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:40 PM
1

So you gonna assume the 6” guy will be a wimp? There is actually a greater chance the 5”6 will be the wimp and not confident.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:19 PM
1

Lol there aren’t a bunch of people making it? Bro if a 5”7 guy wants to make the NBA idc it won’t happen. There is a finite supply of hot women
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:17 PM
1

You do see it but majority of couple are looksmatched. And good looks gives a halo effect. There’s a reason that ugly guy has low confidence.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:14 PM
2

Exactly
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:12 AM
1

What does your profile look like? Just because you think it’s good doesn’t mean it is good.
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:10 AM
2

They just don’t work for avg/ugly dudes. Just use a male model as your profile and you will havnt girls down to meet up that day. No they aren’t a scam. They just don’t work for you.
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:09 AM
1

You havnt been on since 2018 how do you know the experience?
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:09 AM
0

Ok?
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:01 AM
1

Never take these boot camps they are a scam. Spend tht money and time to Work on your self and improve
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:01 AM
-1

Or a physical one.
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:00 AM
1

She in your head rent free
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:26 AM
1

Stop watching Todd v and get rich at this point
/r/seduction04/04/22 04:16 AM
1

Exactly this is just an ad for his services
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:43 AM
1

Why would a girl want a 5”6 guy when she can get 6”0 guy?
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:42 AM
1

Do you rly think women want a broke, ugly dude with no experience in life? Stop the delusion.
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:42 AM
1

That’s like asking why most people won’t make the NBA. Because you are not good enough.
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:35 AM
1

Bro just look at what hot girls (who I think this poster wants) get with. They get with other hot guys, it’s not hard to see. So if you don’t meet that criteria of a hot guy it’s simple, she won’t get with you.
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:25 AM
1

Exactly, you can’t fake confidence. People see right through it
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:15 AM
4

You are not the prize if you just tell yourself that, you need to back it up. Agreed, but some men still feel unfulfilled by just chasing the bag. What if no pursues you? You can’t just tell dudes here just to wait until you get pursued. It won’t happen for majority of dudes here. Agreed If she wants you, she wants you, and will make it easy for you no need to over analyze or make a “play”. Yeah this applies differently to every guy. You can’t tell the short broke loser that his opportunities ar…
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:11 AM
5

What about the 35 year old 5’5 dude? When does he become high value? Let’s say at 50 when he is essentially off the dating market for prime aged women. Also it is rly hard for losers from high school to suddenly become high value when all they’ve faced was rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 09:12 PM
1

What? I didn’t say the women are approaching him. But the high value handsome guy is probably friends with ppl that are associated with hot girls. As a result he probably meets them and parties with them through social circle. So he doesn’t have to cold approach because he already is getting introduced to them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:55 PM
2

Numbers game for avg guy: spam approach and put yourself out there to multiple women. Hopefully one will like him right? Numbers game for high value good looking guy: pick and choose from tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:41 PM
17

Agree, That’s just red pill telling sweet nothings to low value men to give them hope. Reality is high value men starts at an early age
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:33 PM
0

It’s not. The good looking men have a much higher match rate compared to the avg-ugly guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:07 PM
2

The handsome man that gets with them is always surround by them via Social circle, clubs, house parties, Tinder. If you have to resort to cold approach it means it’s over for you, in terms of not being up to SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 07:06 PM
9

I hate when those guys says it’s a numbers game. It rly isn’t, tinder results show this. If you are attractive you will get matched more and hookup more that’s facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 04:40 AM
13

You ain’t Prince Charming bruh stop it. Also who are these women? And evidence to back up your claims? Also if you were this Prince Charming you would be cleaning up on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:26 AM
6

Exactly. There is always that “guy” that’s rep is ruined and labeled as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:23 AM
10

I know you’re not. Because the 5’2 with great confidence and social skills but gets nothing. Destroys any of these PUA theories. But these PUA/Seduction dudes always come up with some excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:19 AM
4

But cold approaching is embarassing and not the norm in todays dating world. So telling these ugly-avg to cold approach is doing them a disservice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:15 AM
10

Exactly, do PUA guys tell that 5’2 to keep working on his game and confidence? Like what do they have to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:12 AM
0

In what scenario is anyone going to be in a party of 1%ers? If that happened it would probably be once in a life time thing. And the 6’3 hs cap isn’t going to feel bad if he can’t go home with a girl that night. Because the next day he will go back to regular life where he is valued. Also what situation is the ugly neck beard going to move to a rural village to get with women? Where there are no guarantees.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:07 AM
4

I agree. If you have to cold approach then you are in a scarce place. Most likely you have a small social circle, lack of a network, lack of online presence. Thus you cold approach because that’s the only way you can talk to women. This leads to an enormous amount of rejection and wasted time just getting rejected. Iv yet to hear a couple that got together because of cold approach. People usually get with each other through social circle, networking, online dating apps, and school.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:50 AM
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