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Why has Blackpill become more mainstream?

ResponsibilityKey427
September 4, 2022
12 upvotes
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And will it keep getting more popular?

I think it’s because of social media, men are starting to realize that they ain’t living like the hot guys.

Thoughts?

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Title Why has Blackpill become more mainstream?
Author ResponsibilityKey427
Upvotes 12
Comments 40
Date September 4, 2022 3:32 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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[–]Kappador66 12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I think with the rise of social media etc. it's just easier to see what's going on and compare tangible results instead of relying on stories, e.g. "I know xyz and he's short and ugly and he slays". Yeah sure.

I think it will keep getting more popular. I'm hearing normies talk about BP adjacent stuff.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ya, I rly dislike the anecdotal evidence that “debunks” bp.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Necro Pill

[–]AnActualPerson 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

"I know xyz and he's short and ugly and he slays". Yeah sure.

If you went outside and/or had friends you would see this happen with your very eyes.

[–]Kappador66 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

you don't go outside

You don't have friends

Very high IQ arguments LOL

At least I'm not looking for "dirty penpals" on Reddit

[–]AnActualPerson 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop going through my profile and touch grass. You'll see short dudes in relationships, and feel even worse about yourself.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think a lot of this is the result of OLD rising to prominence. OLD selects much more harshly for physical appearance and height than in person dating does, and minimizes the importance of basically everything else. So dating since OLD looks much, much more inhospitable than before, and black pill types seem to be more online than average, so they're more exposed to OLD than in person stuff. Because offline, while looks are a factor, they're one of many, rather than THE factor.

[–]Siukslinis_acc 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also photoshopping/filters. You see online people having their photos edited to look prettyer (just look at instagram models). So one compares how they look in the mirror without editing vs the person they see online with editing.

[–]kokorwqac 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This

[–]IHateNormis 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Many guys are simply unsuccessful and are fed up. They are also given all these “rules” when interacting with females and then see these rules don’t mean shit when it comes to Chad. It’s funny how the soy lobby say that the “Manosphere” and “incels” are recruiting, recruiting isn’t required when society is already doing that.

[–]resultsmatter1 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Given the current state of dating is it any surprise? Looks are the 90% determinant of what gets anyone through the door

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think a big part, is that with male virginity rising exponentially there is really no hiding the Blackpill anymore.

More and more men are finding themselves permanently single and this inevitably leads them to ask "why is this happening?"

And that leads them down the Blackpill rabbit hole. People are become disillusioned about life. There are no happy endings. Love doesn't really exist, and people are fundamentally shallow and superficial.

[–]BoogersAndSugar 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think a big part, is that with male virginity rising exponentially there is really no hiding the Blackpill anymore.

Exactly. Once a critical mass of men are left out of the game due to rising female standards, bluepill propaganda will no longer work.

[–]Bighairynuts271 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2021/

Check out this study there might be hope brother

[–]Siukslinis_acc 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People live online more and rarer go outside (and if they do, their heads are in the online world) so they start to think that the edited pictures are what people look in real life. They then compare the edited pictures they see online with the unedited picture of themself in the mirror.

They should spend more time outside looking at other people IRL. Like one comedian said "if you have doubt about how you look, don't look a other people online. Go to public sauna and you will see people how god created them and mcdonalds formed them - you will realise that you don't look so bad". A TV host had said "i saw models before and after makeup and if a seond hand seller woulddo what they do people in the makeup deparment, they would go to jail".

[–]Peacesquad 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s no going back. It’s getting scary out here foreal

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I kinda disagree, with people still cheering on Andrew, the mainstream is currently redpilleed. Although It will become popular because even repilled guys are teaching aspects of the blackpill

[–]Eyesofmalice -2 points-1 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

It's a demographics thing.

The black pill is the result of a growing disenfranchised and overworked middle class who's increasingly aware that the promises of the patriarchy are only cashed by certain member soft the upper levels of society, and also realize that the orthodox views of masculinity don't quite work for the majority of men.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 8 points9 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Nope. Cool attempt at plugging a left wing agenda though.

In actuality it’s the result of female hypergamy, combined with hookup culture and dating apps. Also the long term impact of feminism on society.

[–]Sure-Vermicelli4369 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's quite literally a combination of what each of you posted.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends what you think “the orthodox views of masculinity” are.

[–]Eyesofmalice -2 points-1 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

That's a huge cope.

So i guess you must be a red pillers who believes he would have been more appealing before feminism. Pffff.

Read a sentimental novel from the 19th century to get your Peterson mentality shattered.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // أشهد أن لا حبة إلا الحبة السوداء 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you aint wrong ngl. most men were never all that desirable to women outside of survival necessity

[–]IHateNormis 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism has definitely made things a lot worse.

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism brought to light problems that already existed.

[–]IHateNormis 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, it created more problems

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

🤣 oh look, an ad hominem from a leftling!

What a surprise!

Don’t hate me ‘cos you ain’t me kiddo. 😉

[–]Eyesofmalice -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not really an ad hominem since I'm disputing the idea that feminism started the shift in sentiments towards the men in the lower classes.

Ad hominem would be me saying that you invented that idea and believe because you're a red piller.

What I said is that historically your claim can be refuted but that most likely you don't care about evidence because you're a red piller.

Don't expect you to understand the nuance though.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

…and now denying you went for an ad hominem despite it being blindingly obvious.

Not good at this, are you?

Think of it this way. If you go for the man (me), not the ball (my argument) the. You are attempting an ad-hom.

Do better, lefticle.

[–]Eyesofmalice -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Learn to read.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Learn to think.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What do you think Peterson gets wrong the most?

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Primarily his position is contradictory. He defends individual choice as the prime mover of one's life, and then he'll decry the individualistic and vain state of society. Like he only likes individual choice when the choices follow his idea of sacrificing your individuality for the sake of capitalism and traditional values. Which of course is a massive contradiction.

Also,

His analysis of Dostoevsky is superficial and vane, as is all his work. He tries to be a right wing focault in a way, but since his aim is to convince young people into rooting for capitalism and individualism, he can't pull it off.

He'll say that in crime and punishment Raskolnikov has to face a great moral impasse that's universal, however he doesn't point out that Raskolnikov is poor, and his desperation seems from being poor. Then at one lecture he'll chastise teenagers for making rash and dumb decisions while being desperate, and well even though Dostoevsky did believe christian love was enough to make people endure, in "a Christmas tree and a wedding" you can see that he's deeply deeply critical of the upper classes. You can also see it in brothers Karamazov and even in crime and punishment, also in memoirs from the underground.

Also his views on Marx are so prepubescent and simplistic, in his debate with Zizek he got found out.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

A big part of it is that a lot of people only communicate online and i dont really blame them. The younger guys around 19-25 really had a global pandemy stealing the forming years of their youth last 3 or 4 years. Thats incredibly hard to recover from.

On top of that were steering into a recession right after. Not a great time to be young. The good news is that i think this is only a recent phenomenon.

The one advice i can give to everyone is: Go outside more and meet people. Live life and dont treat it like an online game. Find resources and connections that are real. Real friends, real women, real opportunities.

Blackpill only really has a point if looks is the only thing you expose (online dating). Your personality and game only works in real life. Therefore to maximize your potential you must interact with people in person.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Blackpill definitely extends into real life.

Pretty privilege is a real thing. And height matters a lot not just in dating.

Also good looking ppl are definitely going to be more social due to positive reinforcement they receive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty privilege is a real thing. And height matters a lot not just in dating.

Both are true. But the thing where blackpill falls short is that in real life game is the deciding factor once you pass the looks treshold. Thats why blackpill is useless. They only talk about looks.

Thats like saying having a car keys is all you need. No you need to know where to put it, get license plates, maintain the mechanics and know how to shift.

[–]oaken21 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But it is useless to have a car park, license plates and maintenance knowledge without a car.

[–]RStonePTRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tate barely got a taste of mainstream, and it is already over.

No one else is even close

[–]paperpatience 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

30M, 5'8.

The blackpill just vibes so well because the thought of not caring about women gives so much peace of mind. You start to realize what you actually care about when your world doesn't revolve around making someone else happy.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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