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Isn’t that what this sub spends a lot of time doing? As well as everywhere else on the net?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:00 AM
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They aren’t choosing bad men, they have standards! /sarcasm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:56 AM
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If we’re going to disallow “incel rhetoric” why is this misandry and femcel shit allowed on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 12:44 AM
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I’ve had it one step worse. I was the shoulder she cried on, I was interested but also seeing other people. Her thing blew up, she told me she wanted to see me - then decided she wasn’t ready for a relationship after we had sexted and been physical. That really fucking sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:18 AM
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I’m not angry over what I believe and see. All the ways to change the dynamic are unrealistic so being mad isn’t changing anything as it usually doesn’t with anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:07 AM
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Impressive comment - are you sure you’re still blue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:50 PM
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Every sub I frequent that has a thread of the day - this one included has a minuscule fraction of the engagement the regular posts have because the posts provide context to the discussion instead of boxing a topic to one thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:23 PM
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The new rules to seem indicate if you say looks had a hand in different reactions someone got compared to others it’s considered incel rhetoric and not allowed. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:44 AM
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It looks like the mods are attempting to kill the debate portion of this sub. Let’s see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:42 AM
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On this sub? Absolutely. Where have you been?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:33 AM
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I’m gonna need a delineator of looks and black pill talk. This seems heavy handed and looks do matter is a trp tenant
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 01:30 AM
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There’s a limit and it depends. Morbidly obese out. Obese out. Some curves and softness with a cute face? Absolutely. But like with men - being obese or over is a hard no
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:18 PM
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Surgery, shots, none of it works long term if you’re not willing to adjust your habits. However - I have been helped and hope this is the last time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:19 PM
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Sounds hot to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:39 PM
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Cool found the less than 5%. Are you also fluffy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:35 PM
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It’s not a tale the Jedi would tell you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:56 PM
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It’s not but the upsides outweigh no pun intended the down
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:05 PM
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Also body positivity. No hate but no belly rolled mid riffs were showing in the 90s and 00s and now it’s everywhere because the media has told women obese is beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:02 PM
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I see men under six feet with cute women all the time. The height is an overblown argument by men. Unless you’re a midget it’s not your height. And if it is your height - just lol, not a serious person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:01 PM
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You meant over 25 btw . Under 25 is normal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:00 PM
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There’s a line between thick and cute and obese. It’s okay to have standards and preferences but only when it’s women expressing them? Also - show me the woman who is into an overweight or obese man. I’ll wait
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:54 PM
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This sub greatly overly estimates how many austistic and guys who aren’t capable of communication are out there and it’s used as a crutch response a lot. They knew how to express it how they felt and they did - but ultimately he wasn’t enough hot enough to get a yes and then the other things you described happened. And then when things went south they looked for a shoulder to cry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:53 PM
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Women don’t care about an emotionally intelligent man unless he’s attractive. The vast majority of men are emotionally intelligent - but average in attractiveness and invisible. And what effort are women putting into dating? Below average to average women have polar opposite dating experiences compared to men and it’s not because they’re putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:46 PM
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What are the false statements mixed in with the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:34 AM
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This. There isn’t someone out there for you just because. There isn’t someone out there for you just because you’re a good guy with a heart of gold. The things that men were told mattered in the 80s, 90s, 00s got turned on their head pretty fast once enough of the conversation started happening and men realized they had all witnessed the same thing. Women aren’t attracted to men for any of their personality traits as a primary driver. What women consider attractive is a far narrower definition t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:16 PM
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Creepy and weirdo? Yea. The same behaviors and words definitely result in different reactions based on your attractiveness to a given woman. If you’re good looking it’s cute and funny and if not you’re creepy. Stalking is cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:23 PM
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Entirely? No. A large part? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:50 PM
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It’s chosen willingly cause women like it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:19 PM
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The haircut line got me 🤣… it’s everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:43 PM
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Even if you’re body building the odds that you’re a cbum who is an ultra responder and you’ll be competition or Instagram level is never happening. It’s not worth the risks when a high protein diet and progressive overload in the gym will do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:58 PM
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You should not be using hgh or test just for gains esp in your teens and 20s. Whoever is advising that is a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:56 PM
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It at the very least shows bad judgement on the woman’s part to wind up in the situation in the first place. And now a guy is giving that person a second chance with the odds likely to end the same way. I know this is a PC no no opinion, but most men don’t want to play dad for a child who isn’t biologically theirs. There are guys out there who will and bless them, but for the vast majority of men it’s a non-starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:23 PM
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So women suck at choosing? The entitlement is crazy. Nobody wants to compete and simp to win over a woman who isn’t into them and if she is you’d never wait this long to get a message back
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:18 PM
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Nobody should have their rights or equality impinged. However - I will point out that in the era of women being given more opportunity than men to enter and graduate college, earn as much money as men etc. suddenly in a very short amount of time we’ve arrived at most men not being good enough for most women. Take from that what you will. Imagine if this had been true when men had the advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:14 PM
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Everyone on this sub has a lot of trouble with the obvious facts. Women get enraged because it points out how shallow and unrealistic their expectations are in addition to how bad they are at choosing for mates so now we get the “I don’t want to date anyway” crowd and men continually complain that self improvement won’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:08 PM
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People on this sub have a real issue pointing out that a normal distribution of attractiveness applies to both sexes. And this is only reaffirmed by things like every woman is a 8,9,10, body positivity, and OLD. So when you point that objectively and mathematically speaking every woman you throw on a screen isn’t in the top percent it doesn’t compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:06 PM
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Permission to come aboard captain obvious. But to say hot guys have a monopoly on sexual performance is laughable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:23 PM
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What the? I’m trying not to get banned for “personal attacks”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:40 PM
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Is it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:44 PM
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Because attractive men only are capable of great sex and “mediocre to disappointing” men aren’t. Do you people really listen to yourselves and believe the bullshit that hits your keyboards?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:43 PM
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Your female friends are trying to time their own market at the tippy top which is always a losing proposition instead of riding the very obvious excellent up swing. And likely the guys they’re getting that hit it and quit it have an endless clone of them like they say they have an endless clone of those guys and the sad fact is they aren’t great enough for any of those guys to want to lock down as one of your friends told them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:41 PM
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They painted a narrative from their stats that men are more lonely comparatively compared to 35 years ago no denying that. But failed to mention the loneliness in todays stats between the two sexes are statistical equal. I know how to read a graph and how stats work. I’m not gonna get into a pissing contest on PPD over intelligence with someone who is attempting to wash the issue as a mens only problem. I find the irony in you telling me DK bias. It’s on the paper in written word! It must be tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:05 PM
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The analyzer of said study is a moron. Yes the drop in men from 1990 to now is greater than in women, however looking at the bar graphs of the number of close friends reported for men and women in 2021 - the bars are almost the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:59 PM
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Or conversely, if men sharpened their general standards for attractiveness even a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:48 PM
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Hard disagree here. Lots of guys have robust friend networks and social lives none of which are romantic. Those circles can only take you so far emotionally. There’s nothing like the feeling of being in a good relationship and the fact that it’s minimized in todays society, or blamed solely on men, or gets you labeled an incel for speaking out about it is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:47 PM
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If you think muscle is cheap you don’t have any
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:41 PM
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There should never be a world where telling someone not drunk, not sloppily, not touching them they look nice is creepy. But alas it’s determined by how attractive she finds you and blue pill and others can’t accept this truth. It’s always the man’s fault for trying. And then “why don’t approach women?”. Cause being called a creep sucks, telling other people you think someone is a creep for the sole reason you aren’t attracted to them is fucked up. But hey no accountability so whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:02 PM
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Yep exactly this …. And no the approach wasn’t creepy nothing creepy was said. The same approach that is on the rare occasion successful when she’s interested versus not. I found out later I was called creepy behind my back for telling her she looked nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:20 PM
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Show me this study and show the modern woman going out with someone she finds unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:16 AM
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Please post this study where these points were made about chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:25 PM
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OP doesn’t understand how stats and math work. Next post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:24 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. If you're not attractive having ten thousand social circles won't really help. I have a friend who is the biggest social butterfly I've ever seen in my whole life and struggles mightily in dating. He's a great guy, smart, funny, caring, he's not even short but women pass over him all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 10:25 PM
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The bar is very high for men particularly in the online dating space, this isn't debatable. What you've described OP are platitudes for why men are passed over. I also don't know where these men are, but I rarely if ever run into men who don't brush their teeth and never shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 10:21 PM
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I don't think there's ever going to be "fairness" in dating, too many factors and too many variables. However where we are today thanks to the narratives pushed by media and social media is most definitely outside what should be considered acceptable bounds. If you don't believe me, go over to the tinder sub and look at the swipe stats posted by the normal every day man and normal every day girl and tell me if what you see makes sense, because it doesn't to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 10:01 PM
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What in the misandry is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:39 PM
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I’m so sick of the men are horny and want casual sex trope. Show me the study where men want casual sex. Most men I know on apps are looking for a gf, not a hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:24 AM
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Another reddit tall tale made up by who knows who. Guys aren’t en masse sending unsolicited dick pics to women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:39 PM
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How are dating apps not a good experience for women? It’s easily the best course of action these days unless you make it very apparent you’re open to in person interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:18 PM
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5/10? I’m 6’5 225 lbs, dress well, shower. im not going to be on the cover of any magazines but I get interest now that I’m thin
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:25 AM
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There just aren’t trans men to make a dent but it’s super interesting to see how much of a toll it takes on people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:20 AM
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No amount of appearance improvement will even the dating field. There’s a woman on the tinder sub who posted her stats today and she’s 5’7 286 lbs and has no issue getting dates and casual sex. I don’t know what other evidence to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:53 AM
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Because part of the problem is as women graduate college at higher rates than men, enter the workforce on the higher end at higher rates than mine, and own homes at higher rates than men it’s become obvious through multiple studies that women refuse to “date down” economically. This would be the equivalent of men in the 50s/60s saying they refuse to marry women who intended to be housewives. A ludicrous assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:10 PM
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It’s difficult for men here when their personal experiences contradict what’s being written here by women. And then what women say contradict themselves. So either this is the altruistic collection of women in the history of the internet versus out there or something else is up. There are a few women who are telling it like it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:19 PM
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If reddit awards were worth anything I’d give you them all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:17 PM
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Haha thanks it was more intended for sarcasm/general advice given by people on this sub. My only counter argument from personal experience is - when men join hobbies looking to make connections even then women can sense it and reject him
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:14 PM
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Based on the current trends unless something changes and changes fast, especially for young men we are headed for a combo of Japan and South Korea. Growing disillusion with women and dating, growing animosity for feminism and women in general, lower relationship and sex rates and thus lower marriages and population decline. We need to make a concerted effort to reinvest in young men and do everything in our power to ostracize dating apps as a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:04 PM
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I don’t feel I’ve joined any pill sphere but it’s helped put some logic and reasoning behind what I was seeing that didn’t align with what I was told growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:43 PM
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Just find some hobbies!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:40 PM
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Agree - but the flip side of this is women are just as broken and undatable and yet because of dating apps have an extremely inflated sense of value. Most women, like most men, don’t bring anything to a relationship other than their private parts but society has made that acceptable and okay. For one gender it’s empowerment, for the other, it’s a call to improve themselves. One of the great emerging injustices of our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:37 PM
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You’re basically chad or a giga chad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:09 AM
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Then please tell me why the stats for uni admission, graduate degrees, workforce participation, and home ownership for the last 40 years have tilted so heavily in one direction? Women never wanted equality - they wanted to rig the game and have succeeded through the media since anyone asking these questions is called a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:20 PM
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Everyone should have the same basic rights. But we always got to tilt the scales heavily in someone’s favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:16 PM
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Or they know and each one thinks she’s the one amazing enough to convince him to settle down
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:13 PM
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I don’t know - being friendly with no ulterior motive. I had a wonderful latte yesterday and I asked the barista what bean and how she made it. I instantly knew she thought I was hitting on her when I was genuinely asking a simple question. Get off your high horse - most of you aren’t beautiful enough to make men fall over themselves to get in your pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:40 AM
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Female hubris on display here. 80%+ responses assume a guy is talking to you to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:44 AM
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Really? I must have the permanent look then because I’m 95/100 times not hitting on a woman and the reaction I get leads me to believe they thought I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:41 AM
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Because most younger women are going for and dating the same men. This isn’t rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:12 AM
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You must be very overweight cause I’ve never seen that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:30 PM
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The user you’re arguing with is a known ppd idiot. Don’t worry about her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:17 PM
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You clearly spend too much time watching tv and streaming if every example you’re gonna bring up relates to entertainment. For the last 40 years women have gotten into and graduating college at higher rates than men. Are in the workforce at higher rates, own more homes, and the gender wage gap in corporate America is an outright lie. Get off your couch and stop watching bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:12 PM
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I stopped taking you seriously the moment you opened with “women know what men find attractive thanks to porn”. Honestly asking - how do you manage to breathe?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:09 PM
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Yes but here come the cope responses about demographics and god knows what else. As if the one discernible objective avenue doesn’t translate to real life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:08 PM
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Don’t be so sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:06 PM
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Are they though? I definitely see it less often than I used to esp among younger people. And how long do those relationships last before she finds the next best guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:03 PM
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If we knew the answer to this question we’d solve a lot. A genuine good guy stares women in the face and they pass for the guy who obviously sees them as a cum rag
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:01 PM
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Rule 1 and 2. Just like two different men can do and say the same thing and what makes one man creepy and one man kind boils down to how physically attractive she found him
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:58 PM
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It doesn’t - whoever told you that is a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:57 PM
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There’s literally no difference out in the real world between the two guys you describe. Stop pretending like these characters exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:57 PM
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It boils down to one thing: looks. And men are incredibly more wide ranging and foregiving in this arena
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:54 PM
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women on dating app from actually in shape to fat describe themselves as “in shape” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:33 AM
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Shhhh don’t make coherent points on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:32 AM
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These same bitches on this sub always post the most lame straw men posts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:31 AM
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Dating apps or not male loneliness is on the rise at historic rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:46 AM
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Women should not be oppressed but our current society has pushed them ahead and told boys and men to deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:44 AM
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Yeah this is where I stopped reading. For boys it’s about personal responsibility. But when it’s women it’s help. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:42 AM
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That women are mainly liars and whores. There I said it and engaging with them is generally a large waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:44 AM
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I’m fucking lost why this is a hot take. Women metood cold approaching out of existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:29 AM
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The same truth for her that is served to men: she’s just not hot enough for the men she’s going after.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:07 AM
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Meanwhile fat girl with filters on her pics doesn’t need to do anything. Great place we’ve arrived as a society
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:10 AM
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There is no paradox. Feminism and equality was a lie. They want their cake and to eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:20 PM
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Nah you use google fool
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:35 AM
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And this MF is supposed to be a relationship coach. Look everyone - you can’t argue with data. Women value one thing more than any other and one thing more than any other only - how hot are you. She’ll fuck a hot autist before she even goes out with an emotionally intelligent funny guy who is average. This isn’t fatalistic - it’s the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 01:00 AM
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What a radfem take this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:43 PM
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Really? How again?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:48 PM
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Yep you can’t simultaneously want tradition gender roles, a liberal, and to be a boss bitch or fat and beautiful. Pick a lane ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:43 PM
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There are plenty of other options it’s why passport bros and mgtow exist and will only continue to rise. Most American/western women ain’t worth the hassle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:37 PM
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There is a large divide in looks culture between the coasts and fly over America. Every time some guy on this sub is like I’m a normal overweight dude who is killing it with women my first question is always where are you located? It’s without fail the Midwest or southeast. Fat joe average has no shot in Los Angeles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:24 PM
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They don’t have anything of value or insightful to say to like defaulting to incel they do the same shit with “red pill”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:51 PM
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Of course they’re silly - it’s American women who’ve spent the last decade watching bravo tv and kardashians getting their dating advice from 10 second videos on tik tok. American women are the epitome of entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:07 AM
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No men are lonely because the women at their level ignore them. Jesus lady just how head up your ass are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:06 AM
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They have? Body positivity? You ever walk by a fat male mannequin in a store? I haven’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:05 AM
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An actual European woman taking American women to work … eats popcorn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:04 AM
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And this is slowly leading to the most toxic society in human history. Enjoy the decline for real. Lonely men where society looks at them and goes “sorry not my problem, level yourself up” with no other assistance only leads to problems and instability. Don’t believe me? Look at human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:05 PM
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They do for a fuck but not for anything more. And herein lays the paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:58 PM
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I don't see this. I see gross over evaluation in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 08:39 PM
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I’m sure it’s the most attractive but that’s how it’s always been for the most beautiful. I don’t view the question as relevant. The problem we have today is the average woman shuns the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:49 PM
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Even a slightly overweight woman years ago wouldn’t dare bare her midriff. Now obese women do it with regularity because of body positivity. Way to go society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 08:46 PM
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You don’t know that. 25 is plenty of time to be rejected ad nauseam through high school, college, and after. An increasing number of men are leaving the dating world for one reason or another - way to go ladies! And we can have differing views. However, this is like comparing the lives of the wealthy to the poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:27 PM
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No I have a graduate degree and am a senior vp in corporate America - I’m not underselling anything. When the heartbreak comes and potential relationship falls through enough times one logical outcome is to say you know what? I don’t want to do this any more ever. If you decided you were done with relationships, one I wouldn’t judge you your choice is your choice. Second - as a woman in what world would this actually happen? Men are much more forgiving and understand a woman isn’t going to be pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:06 PM
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As a human looking for a romantic relationship it takes two to tango. An apartment rejects you? There’s plenty more willing to take your money. Education? There isn’t only one college or uni with your specific program. Job? Apply elsewhere. The switching ability of every other example your autist take cited is solved with zero emotional investment and strife. Dating and finding a mate? Not so much in the time sink it is to get to know someone and develop a sense of who they are and feelings for …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:06 AM
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Your second paragraph literally starts with you mocking the OP for rejection bothering them. How the hell are you an engineering grad student who doesn’t understand their own words they put on the web. You belittled romantic rejection into the realm of apartment leasing. Of course you’re a woman, color me shocked. Understanding of romantic rejection is at the grade school t-ball level with your female privilege (side note: how many women’s engineering and stem programs did you attend and stick o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:59 AM
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We’re going to pretend like rejection especially a string of them over time isn’t painful and is somehow misogyny? Your generation is completely fucked in the head. The rest of your post makes no sense and reads like bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:54 AM
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Eats popcorn the radfem blue hairs about to have a field day but OP is right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:01 PM
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You seem triggered. Who hurt you? I have a lot of friends. I think women like you have a serious blind spot to male female friendships and relationships because it’s clear you feel entitlement to male friendship. Edit: shocker rad fem who responded like this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:06 PM
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That adds up though. Women want their cake and to eat it too. They want the men to play all the traditional roles of men while also simultaneously playing with the men ain’t shit card and I don’t need no man and I’m a girl boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:26 AM
5

Because arguing in good faith unmasks the stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:23 AM
2

yOuRe sO enTiTlED
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:22 AM
5

Most women want you to be their friend in my experience so they can incessantly complain about their lives and bitch about their other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:18 AM
2

Counterpoint - imagine someone liked you as a friend first but as they got to know you and your hobbies and values and life goals and all else aligned, they found you romantically interesting but you didn’t find them so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:16 AM
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Women’s egos are infinitely more fragile since whenever you see a woman get rejected their brain can’t compute. Men on the other hand experience it so often so it’s expected now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:15 AM
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TwoX is filled with sad radfem losers who will victimize themselves over literally anything. They simultaneously will tell you that they don’t owe you a relationship but you DO owe them friendship and to not do so if rejected or taken or whatever is being a “nice guy”. I hate to say this, but the more I experience and the more I read I’m starting to go down the misogyny route against women and I don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:10 AM
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What you both say is true. If you’re a guy who spends his 20s establishing himself without time to date there’s a very high likely the women you date post 30 have been “ran through”. This isn’t a hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:09 AM
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It’s 2023 - you don’t work door to door sales you’re unemployed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:30 PM
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No OP that’s called settling 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 /women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:24 AM
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We’ve arrived at a place where the general belief is that women are somehow superior to men especially in the dating realm especially since they function as the selectors now. In reality, women have never been more shitty at picking partners than they are right now and the trend line is only continuing. They are just as undatable/broken/bad at relationshiping as men but since almost all but the most ugly have options they think they’re princesses. We are headed for South Korea style gender wars …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:20 AM
2

Ya if you want to be party girls beta bucks in your early to mid 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:18 AM
2

Curious - where did you land?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:17 AM
3

Right … because it’s great behavior if you’re attractive and just friendly or in some cases creepy if you’re not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:16 AM
2

And none of it bears out in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:16 AM
3

Yes it is … they’re handed out like candy now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:15 AM
9

Forget old people - most current women don’t understand this. Where are all the good guys? Why won’t XYZ date me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:14 AM
0

Men have their self worth and value crushed by a never ending line of rejection. That’s self evident, what are we talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:10 AM
0

Not all women, but most are. Alpha fucks and beta bucks is definitely a thing that men are now becoming wise to. Just because you don’t like ugly truths and maybe see an exception or two to the rule doesn’t mean they aren’t. The wall is real but not as widespread. I saw a girl just yesterday I knew in college and her face had morphed so bad I didn’t recognize her because she looks like she’s ten years older than me even though we’re the same age. The most crushing part is - men were sold a lie t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:08 AM
0

I would never identify as red pill in person to people but I 100% am.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:05 AM
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There’s a lot of stupid blue pill/feminist tropes in todays world like: Her past and body count doesn’t matter Body positivity for women Equal rights but only when it’s in women’s favor Over reliance on personality and social skills (dear mods this isn’t incel or black pill to have the hot take that looks supersede all other attributes as a gateway) The other stuff is common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:04 AM
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None of these are acceptable besides red pill. I’d talk to him. I do worry about the future for western boys and men in this current social and political climate. Women needed their equality. However - the movement has sought to have their cake and eat it too and threatens to cancel anyone who challenges the assertion. It’s out of hand and needs to be stopped. Young boys are being disadvantaged in favor of girls in school, training, and workplace far too much now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:16 PM
1

Nike … quality 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:26 PM
1

As a man? Maybe 10-20% Middle aged, not ripped but not obese, still have all my hair. Great income, great social skills. But not “hawt guy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:13 AM
2

I swear to God a child made this post. Can we please add rules against low effort idiot posts like my sample of 2 says hot guys have happy wives!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:30 PM
1

How about no …… And yeah imagine wearing this in reverse
/r/AllPillDebate24/07/23 01:29 AM
3

The basic tenants of TRP are on the money. How anyone can dispute this is mind blowing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:45 PM
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Every time someone posts this like they’re socially inept I have to ask: where do you live, what state?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:42 PM
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What did we expect to happen when men are called creeps for approaching, there’s no place that’s okay to approach, and metoo?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:28 AM
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I tried explaining this in the other thread. The obese girl in the viral tweet is a snack. The girls in the generic pic thread are not attractive to me because of the way they carry the weight
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:24 AM
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I need to see more pics then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 10:40 PM
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Agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:37 PM
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Yeah but obese starts to tip high
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:48 PM
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I am. I know in europe you’d consider her a land whale
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:48 PM
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TBF obese is pretty big. Overweight is more a range on the bmi scale. Her face will play a huge role though too. If she’s pretty in the face weight is more forgivable than if she’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:32 PM
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Yes … chubby is just not thin\athletic\toned. The woman in the tweet body wise is very attractive to me. Overweight and obese are bigger. Where someone carries their weight also makes a huge difference. If all the fat is stored in the stomach for example, I can’t find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:01 PM
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The woman in the viral tweet isn’t really chubby. She has hips and an ass. Her top is small. Would smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:46 PM
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There’s a limit but I don’t mind listening to people and offering advice. Men don’t just there and mope. We mostly don’t say shit in every day life cause we know nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:31 PM
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A gay man is putting this out into the world. A gay man. We’re fucked
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 12:40 AM
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Now this adds up. California: 0 fat mannequins. It’s not fatalistic - look at dating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:01 PM
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I’ve never in my whole life seen one. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:00 PM
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You have? Where? What state? Not a blackpiller but okay. And no I don’t think I will discord mod
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:51 PM
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Whining about fat women? You ever see a fat mannequin man in a store? No you don’t. Men need to have six packs, chest, and arms of they’re useless in the dating realm. Get the fuck outta here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:48 PM
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Or an incel. Women: I wish men would express their feelings Men: express sadness and frustration Women: no not like that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:11 PM
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There’s been a weird shift in culture since Covid - guys don’t approach anymore in person or aren’t looking for anything serious ROFL - gee wonder why. She must not be the brightest attorney
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 02:15 AM
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Game. Set. Match. Next topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:39 PM
1

As much as men here in America are lampooned for waifu Asian girl dreams the Asian women in Asia would cut a bitch to marry a white guy. White is seen as more wealthy and status in Asia because it means you didn’t work the farms and fields.
/r/AllPillDebate15/07/23 10:00 PM
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That’s the entire point of why the people who are pissed at her and the woke media this is even a story. They labeled what looks like a very mature discussion about boundaries in a relationship to be misogyny, abuse, and praising this bitch’s “bravery” for posting them years after this happened. Oh and he weaponized therapy language 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:29 PM
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It’s okay for anyone to express whatever views they want in the confines of a relationship. It’s also okay to communicate to your partner that XYZ make you uncomfortable and if that’s a dealbreaker for you you get it wish them well but time to move on. It would be like if she had said ya know Jonah I’m not okay with you costarring with Mila Kunis cause she’s hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:22 PM
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That’s the issue here. The texts are a non-story. Couples fight, disagree and break up all the time. What is the story is this person years later bringing this shit up where he handled himself well and better than 90% of people would, dragging his name through the mud conveniently right after he had a baby with another woman, and then having the net and woke media back her up and call her brave and a survivor. The story itself can kiss my ass. The larger issue is the reaction to instantly always…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:18 PM
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Delusional take. Most women go into high risk situations and are sad at the end they weren’t the princess who tamed a man. And in this case Jonah was nothing but respectful. Spare me the flamboyant sounding tik tok therapy semantics bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:04 PM
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First of all, he wasn’t controlling. He said if this stuff makes you happy I support you but it’s not for me and we should break up. If you morons are too immature to view this statement as reasonable I have nothing for you. And again - the focus on the term boundaries is a sad commentary on where we are when you lot have been overfed Xanax and therapy. Y’all have the mental fortitude of a fork.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:02 PM
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This is exactly what Jonah did - but no the internet SJWs and woke liberals want to play therapy semantics and “weaponization”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:57 PM
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No if the shoe was on the other foot we’d be like wow controlling and move on without marshaling the full force of my social media presence like a normal person
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:56 PM
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This is trying to start another metoo movement except far more extreme and damaging. HOW DARE YOU NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING A WOMAN DOES IN A RELATIONSHIP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:55 PM
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Gen Z here’s a tip: nobody in this world gives a fuck about your therapy semantics. Stop crying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:53 PM
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Because I’ve never once seen a woman complain about how much of a mistake it was getting together with a man post relationship 🙄🙄🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:52 PM
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They speak very softly and have tik tok so they must be a therapy expert
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:51 PM
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And every outlet is calling her brave and even an abuse survivor. There need to be more consequences for women who do this shit. This isn’t a tolerable state in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:45 PM
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No disagreement there. But location plays a large part to the pool you’re swimming in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:28 PM
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Guys that are 5’9 and 2 bills in SoCal where I am struggle. The fact that you’re in the southeast and doing well as an average man doesn’t surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:24 PM
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Not taking anyway any new lessons. Just another example of todays twisted society where a woman is always the victim, bares no responsibility for anything, and everything is somehow tied back to misogyny. I can’t believe dude is literally like here are my boundaries if they’re not for you no hard feelings and this bitch tried to cancel him conveniently right after he had a baby. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:12 PM
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What city do you live in
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:01 PM
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This is what drove you to this obvious conclusion ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:29 AM
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Here’s a tissue Gen Z. He literally tells her this is how he feels and if its an issue she’s free to go no hard feelings. His feelings aren’t irrational or any less or more irrational than hers. You kids need to stop with the therapy, therapist language, and mental health pills. It’s overused and being weaponized.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:55 PM
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Telling your partner how they’re making you feel is wrong now? How old are you? Stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:53 PM
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A couple fighting over text. Big whoop? And she has almost no texts - convenient. Timing - convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:02 PM
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And this is the problem. Men are sick and tired of this movement it’s gone too far
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:57 PM
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It’s fine for women to be rallying around her for what an “abuser” he is years later a month after he has a baby for him stating very reasonably his boundaries to her for another point in the bullshit agenda but the sad boys online should shut up about it? Nah fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:55 PM
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Because women have never dated a man who wasn’t a good fit for them and men shouldn’t be allowed to date someone unless a comprehensive list of boundaries are established and a contract signed 🙄🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:51 PM
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The amount of retards on the sub is incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:47 PM
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He said nothing wrong. I don’t like X. If you do X I wish you well but I’m not the right partner for you. It’s that simple. “Context doesn’t matter”. What the fuck? Do you people listen to yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:46 PM
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How are more people not questioning this? This didn’t just happen, they didn’t just break up. She waited two years after they broke up and one month after he had a baby with another woman to release these messages. Literal clown behavior and yet the interwebs at large is trying to cancel him and defending her. Fuck this current generation of people. I’ve never seen bigger sheep with matching charmin soft wool.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:44 PM
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Please show me the human being without a single insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:41 PM
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He threw a hissy fit by explaining his boundaries and saying if this doesn’t work for you no hard feelings? 🤣🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:39 PM
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Seconded. I don’t care about race. I’ve seen hot girls of every race
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 07:26 PM
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I like the “gym girls” at mine cause they’re sexy but let’s be real: if you’re wearing a skin tight crop top and booty shorts you’re doing it to get stared at. I admire their dedication and they’re hot but wouldn’t date. Not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:22 PM
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Where do the men here subscribe to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:21 PM
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The truth is always is in the middle. Use your best judgement and experience to determine what’s real and what isn’t. Are all men pieces of shit who hate women and are looking to rape them at every turn like two X would have you believe? No. Are all women riding the cock carousel and will dump you the moment something more exciting comes along like TRP says and relationships/marriage is a joke? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:19 PM
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Men have to work on themselves but women have to just breath air.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:29 PM
2

Which is 95/100 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:27 PM
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And a lot of the women who do are married. Just lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:27 PM
2

You really linked me to a study about it from when you were 10 pre OLD. Awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:23 PM
2

You do you but at your young age there are going to be a large number of men who have no relationship experience and if that’s going to be held against them the outcomes will be bad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 06:19 PM
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Didn’t you guys get the memo? Especially to Gen Z women everyone is a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:02 PM
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Oh my lord and this woman is 23…. And people wonder why TRP PUA and other pills exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:49 PM
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TIL I coulda been a body builder whenever this was
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:12 PM
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Lots of people have a handle on a fitness regimen you schmuck. Zero of them includes climbing a stair master with a 80lb pack in their “home gym” rein fare guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:59 PM
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This the best you had? Hold your L. Do you even know what the inside of a gym looks like or do you watch videos on YouTube?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:42 PM
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And this right here is how you know this guy is larping. As someone who gyms nobody does this. Lol. Idiot. Way to out yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:48 PM
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The funny part is, the average women think they’re relationship material for the guys they go for and are devastated when they’re not. The only reason you’re putting out 7-8/10 times is because you played yourself that hot guy is gonna date and marry you. When in reality, the moment he’s done cumming in you onto the next. And when you are ready to settle only but the most lane and weak average guys will dare get near you. Your actions bare responsibility and have consequences even if in the mome…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:21 PM
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Keep larping bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:18 PM
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Which is going to be a huge societal problem due to loneliness for men - so you’ll have more things like incel communities, violence etc. AND for women the guys that meet these categories are likely not going to wife you up for the long term because they’ll wait for the 10/10 or just continue to enjoy the field. It’s a super lose for everyone but everyone is selfish as long as they get theirs right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:12 PM
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Comes to reddit about male attractiveness in a wide array and hits us with Pitt, Clooney, and Mamoa 🤣 I too love Megan Fox, ScarJo, and Amy Adams.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:07 PM
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That would mean 80% of men are ugly. 80%. Get a grip. Women have just as an equal distribution in the looks department objectively as men do - however men are less shallow and more accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:05 PM
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Which is the center of the redpill ethos. Women in general - (yes we know you reading this on reddit are the special snow flake of woman who likes a wider array of men) - only consider a very narrow definition of men as attractive. Aka tall, in shape, good jaw line etc. The plight of the average man has been amplified by dating apps where the average woman - the squarely mathematically average woman - is led to believe because Chad will fuck her that he will gf or wife her. And when this doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:03 PM
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Oh teach me wise one … on social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:40 PM
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You really are the TRP retard archetype
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:27 PM
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It’s not a generic deformity. People have different metabolisms and abilities. Save the bro science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:21 PM
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Nobody shouts oi fatty or pig in public and if that happens the one in a ten thousand guys doing that is a cunt. And yeah I would. At least they’re being open about it. Just because women think they’re sly about it doesn’t make it any less hurtful. It’s the same premise as oi fatty in a room full of people but you know it’s you and the feeling is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:02 PM
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Avoid eye contact, move away if you’re near, act like you’re about to assault them for speaking to them, whisper while obviously looking at you to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:56 PM
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Your premise that fat women get shit on more is absurd. As a overweight person just because women don’t call you fatty fat to your face doesn’t mean they don’t treat you as badly as the men do. Women do a million more devastating behaviors when it comes to ugly, overweight, non attractive men that are equally and more hurting. Open your eyes a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:48 PM
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I can’t put hey I work out X hours a week on my forehead. If you’re overweight or obese nobody cares. Society is more superficial and visual than it’s ever been. Nothing else matters. You could do coke and meth all damn day as long as it’s not obvious and you’re thin nobody cares
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:47 AM
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I trained daily and was walking north of 10K steps for years and hamster wheeling in weight. I just got medical help and it’s working. Not everyone who is fat is sitting on their couch eating bon bons all day like the majority of you want to believe. Some of us genuinely have genetic issues. And no my calorie intake isn’t different
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:44 AM
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The fact that you think fat women get more vitriol than fat men is flat out false. People who haven’t been fat a day in their life need to shut the fuck up on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:42 AM
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What if I told you there was a whole other half of your body that needs work too. Would you believe me? Do what you want in the gym, but it’s the same as a guy who focuses on chest and arms 5X a week.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 05:38 PM
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My deal breakers are fat/obese, an ugly face, or too many tattoos. I like girls up to thick. But there’s a group of girls in the gym two of which have amazing bodies but literal troll face - I wish I were kidding. The other is doing her best to thot her body up doing only lower body exercises all day long.
/r/AllPillDebate20/06/23 05:21 PM
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This isn’t true. Men are ridiculed for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:15 PM
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How else is this idiot supposed to make her point? Let’s jump to the extreme fringe of a mass shooter. See? Argument won!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:14 PM
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Another trash ass poster posting her usual trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:13 PM
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Please please please show me a fat man mannequin in Nordstrom or neimans. Kohls I’d believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:20 AM
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Where are these fat dude mannequins? I’ve yet to see one anywhere. I live in Southern California.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:05 AM
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If you were a man the prevailing wisdom would be it’s a you problem better yourself. As such, the fact that you pick losers who pump and dump you is a you problem. Better yourself, hit the gym, go to therapy, be less boring. Clearly women who want it are able to find relationships with stable guys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:48 AM
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It’s money from the corporate aspect. But there’s also an activism aspect to it in their advertising. There are ads where being fat is celebrated but it’s all for women. There are still zero mannequins for men other than ripped guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:43 AM
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We can end the thread now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:44 PM
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I don’t listen to the opinion of any woman who shaves half her fucking head. Next.
/r/AllPillDebate19/06/23 01:39 AM
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The biggest issue with incels is the ingrained teaching that treating women like princesses will guarantee success. It doesn’t. It does the opposite. Women are normal people just like you. When you stop pedastilizing them and bending over backward for them it gets easier. Also - be attractive and don’t be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:53 PM
1

Queue find an activity bro! Dress well! Take a shower!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:51 PM
1

Ah yes todays original theory of inceldom circle jerks back to shyness and upbringing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:49 PM
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The body positivity movement never had a way to begin with. It is and has been overweight and obese women screeching for acceptance in society and it’s worked to a degree. I never recall seeing overweight and obese mannequins in stores before it. I never recall seeing jelly rolled midriffs out in the open before it. I don’t see women of any but the most absurd obesities have issues getting dates, sex, or relationships. It’s not a lie but it’s a new double standard. Nobody has positivity body and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:28 PM
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OP is clearly some basement dwellers burner to stir shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:21 PM
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Women is not a monolith is a cop out posted on this board to overemphasize the minority argument. Like “nOt aLl wOmeN liKE cHaD. i LIke daD bODs 2!1!1!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 08:03 PM
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Because it’s mostly women who having not walked one step in those shoes not believing it really be like that out there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:08 AM
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Look bro she shows up to the gym 3-4x a week and does the same leg day focusing on her ass and if she’s feeling spicey will throw a ten minute texting sesh on the stair master. Meanwhile - we over here going to failure and then doing cardio until we are spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:26 PM
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I didn't provide counters not because I didn't disagree with the examples but the degrees as you described them are extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:05 PM
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This is the female version of the male hoping to win them over argument. It’s never going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:17 PM
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If women end up in this position it’s on them. For the guy they’re waiting on to come around there were or are 3-5 guys they passed over who would worship the ground she walks on but they didn’t interest her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:16 PM
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Look at the pic for this post. A in shape guy and an overweight women. Lol …… it’s fucking everywhere. I’ll wait for the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:15 PM
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This is such a stupid response. Let me cherry pick famous rich celebrities to prove my point about most men! When is the next purge? Is it soon? Please mods we need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:07 PM
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I agree with the op in theory but the examples are bad. The 80/20 rule so slow draft is in fact true. The absurdity escalates take on dating inequity is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:02 PM
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This is what happens when everything is made about women for the better part of 50 years
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:59 PM
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Clown tier thinking is denying this doesn’t carry sway but 👌👌
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:31 PM
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I love that the first line addressed the jabba Hutt thing. Your looks determine how and when you can approach a woman and how successful you will be. Two guys can try the same line, same approach, same everything and the one who looks better will get a positive response and the one who doesn’t is called a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:35 PM
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No - ugly guys have approached me and I can’t believe they had the audacity to do so. So I’ll take it out on lesser guys
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:36 PM
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Women aren’t a monolith but what they find attractive is still degrees narrower than what men find attractive in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:00 PM
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What’s straight sized?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:23 AM
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This so much this. Do you kids realize even as recently as ten years ago half the women who have their midriff showing today would be ridiculed to hell by both genders for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:20 AM
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I worked out, i dieted, the needle never moved. My doctor gave me the “fad” drugs and I’ve changed virtually nothing and the weight is so far just peeling off. I’m a metabolism genetic lottery loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:18 AM
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You either must live online or at the gym there’s no in between /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:15 AM
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Where can you show me? Please don’t point true classic tees. And men would be far happier with it it if being fat wasn’t female repellant in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:43 PM
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Society media and advertising is normalizing and celebrating fat women. It’s easy to have more self esteem when you look around you and your body type is being celebrated. For men not so much. Stop being so disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:26 PM
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Yes I would. Just like having a guy with an 8 pack and under 10% bf is unrealistic so is the anorexic model.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:01 PM
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I go to the gym every morning. The 20 something girl who wears neon tights with a sports bra and is slim thick doing the same ass and leg routine daily on low weight spends a significant amount of time chatting up and being chatted up by any and all guys who are at the gym in half way decent shape regardless of age. And she loves the attention. Any time a somewhat equivalent hot woman has walked in she stares and scowls - its hilarious. This is what you're dealing with guys. Anything even semi a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:20 PM
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No, they can have self esteem if we're going to be able equal about it. But let's be honest, women would never allow it or have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:46 PM
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And no women chubby chase men. Zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:45 PM
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There's a happy medium between we don't anyone but white preppy kids to wear our clothes and celebrating morbidly obese people. Things just swing far too much in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:44 PM
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This is my issue. Walk into any store that has mannequins or look at any magazines... overweight, obese women are celebrated, have mannequins of their physique on the floor etc. nobody dares to tell them publicly to lose weight or that they need to work on themselves. No such thing exists for men. All your models are still chiseled and if you are overweight you're told to work on yourself. The body positivity movement is a scam double standard that can fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:43 PM
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Your post history adds up, can’t imagine why things have gone the way have for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:58 PM
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Please show me one program specifically for men. One. And of course your second line - it’s men’s fault society has stacked the deck against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:32 PM
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Great response /s You and OP are mistaking jealousy for being sick and tired of women’s no win hypocrisy and bullshit. You can’t simultaneously be upset trad roles aren’t being adhered to like pay for my date - I got ready for you - AND assert to also now be men’s competitive equal. If you’re an equal then 50/50 should be the norm. You spending time to put up on make up and get ready was a you choice. Instead like my original post said, you want to have your cake and eat it too of trad roles whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:34 AM
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This is the dumbest shit I’ve read in a long time. Thanks OP. Women have been pushed forward at the expensive of men now for 3-4 decades. Scholastically, professionally, and socially. Ever see a program for college admission specifically intended for men? No? Weird despite the fact that more women have been getting into college for 30 plus years. Ever see a program in the workplace for men? No? Why is that? Single women nowadays are more likely to own a home than a single man. And socially - don…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:19 AM
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Yeah I don’t remember the are we dating the same guy thing until OLD became a thing. But this sub especially the women, want to pretend it doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:41 PM
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Nobody says only 10s, but let’s not pretend in todays dating world the average guy and the average girl are having the same experience. That’s just a blatant lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 11:40 PM
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Do you think Lauren Sanchez is getting to engaged to Bezos or dating him if he wasn’t a multi billionaire? No. That TRP enough for you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:07 AM
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If your own well being and self worth isn’t worth effort I don’t know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:29 PM
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You should try but not for them. You should try for you. I feel like the amount of effort needed to attract an average girl in America isn’t worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:29 PM
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Of course as a woman you think divorce is better. The law is stacked heavily in women’s favor when it comes to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:25 PM
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And blue collar men date blue collar women. Your typical STEM guy isn’t going to date one of them nor have much in common with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:24 PM
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This is facts. The number of absolutely stunning women all over Europe compared to America is incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:57 PM
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Thanks for womansplaining me. And yeah I was. My prior point stills stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:46 PM
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Confidence like a motherfucker aka obtuse as fuck misconstrued as confidence via some other factor
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:14 AM
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Show me in the past few years where an "unattractive woman" has been made light of in tv or film? It's a quick way to get cancelled. Still happens all the time for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:43 PM
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That’s because most people don’t have an answer for the question. Especially those who feel entitled. I hate to say this but in todays society women feel entitled to a partner if they want it so if something like this is asked it’s met with hostility. Men have to answer this question indirectly or directly all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:49 PM
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This is hilarious - guys get asked this all the time. What’s so wrong about asking the same of women? It’s not an offensive or misogynyistic question at all. If you think it is it’s a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:56 PM
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This comment lands home cause OP shared their TikTok below.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:47 PM
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I admire and appreciate your willingness to share the TT. But this right here is a perfect example of over valuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:38 PM
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Please look in the mirror when asking yourself questions like why are 1s hitting on me…. I just peeped your TT.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:36 PM
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you have 3 kids - Why are you posting here? Are you still in the dating game?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:34 PM
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Yeah … this happens maybe 5% of the time or less but it’s online women lens all men painted through. Just like “I’m terrified of a man I don’t know he might murder me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:32 PM
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Women shoot over their objective coverage all the time. Stop your cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:30 PM
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The opposite of this will never ever be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:27 PM
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Nobody likes rejection, cut this shit out. This is totally a gynocentric opinion from someone who likely rarely if ever has experienced rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:28 PM
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I’ve never heard a woman be described or called creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:25 PM
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Who doesn’t to be seen as desirable to the person they’re with regardless of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:03 AM
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Yeah, the flip side of the coin is women overestimate big time how much their juice is worth when compared to the squeeze. On average, they're not better than men, they bring nothing more to the table than a man does, but we're being conditioned to believe they do. As a post once titled here said, "Most women are just as undatable as the men they claim to hate"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:13 PM
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If the woman got used and disposed for not being hot enough she overestimated her own level. That's what you'd tell a man who got rejected so...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:10 PM
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This is literally describing any regular cordial interaction that I am now supposed to interpret as interest. LOL. Are you sure you're 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:09 PM
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Just yesterday another woman posted on how she was initially approached by a man, turned him down, he persisted and she said yes. How are men supposed to navigate this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:06 PM
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I'm not taking seriously or reading something by someone who can't use to, two, and too properly. Edit: Ok so I read this. I hate to burst women's bubble, most men aren't approaching the top 2% of women and the fact that so many of you believe most men aren't self aware to this degree is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:59 PM
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In the west women bare zero responsibility, for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:58 PM
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Yes it is very harmful. You'll arrive to your 30s without the training wheels and practice to not make the mistakes that an inexperienced person would make. The truth is, women's priorities shift in late 20s and early 30s. They stop riding the CC and want to settle down. So the safe guys they mostly ignored are prime options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:55 PM
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I know this sub loves to sensationalize on how men want to go out there and fuck anything that moves and says yes in an endless loop. But in reality, I think it's more most men just want a steady relationship and a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:25 PM
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Tell me more you’re in your early 20s with a McJob
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:40 AM
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The initial “pushback” is directly correlated to your attraction to them and still a risk for the average man. You were never going to tell this guy you got off at 7 if you didn’t find him hot enough. Stop moving the goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:21 PM
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The risks of cold approaching a woman in public if you don't reach her looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:27 PM
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So you declined initially and he persisted? That is again a quick way to end up online about not taking no for an answer, on the twoX sub or cancelled on social media as someone who doesn't take no for an answer. Risky move - but hey he's attractive so all good!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:26 PM
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It's not being timid, weak, or submissive. It's self preservation to avoid having you become a meme on tik tok. If the environment wasn't as such it wouldn't be this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:14 PM
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It's this. The aloofness and lack of ability to read the room is interpreted as a strength as opposed to the guy who considers and overthinks the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:13 PM
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He was attractive enough. Read between the lines, as long as he wasn't a total creep he's fine and what he says doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:07 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 Okay buddy
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 01:33 PM
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Most people will look at you confused if you approach them for conversation and aren’t attractive
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 12:42 AM
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it is an ugly reality, but still reality nonetheless.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 07:48 PM
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I don't understand why saying your personality has never meant less than in today's society is a black pill talking point. Like go outside and try to talking to ten strangers and repeat as an attractive or unattractive person. The difference will be night and day.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 05:18 PM
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great work english police
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 05:17 PM
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Your assumption that the 4 women who rated Bob a 7 all message him or reply to him based on the real world is laughable. The issue is those 4 women also have men who are more attractive than Bob in their inbox and they reply/message those dudes first. Bob is really further down the list because anything with a vagina on OLD has lots of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:20 PM
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Your logic is incredibly stupid and not based on actual math. If the percentages were higher maybe but at a 4:1 ratio there’s no way and the number of different men women find attractive is far less variable than you make it seem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:05 PM
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You don’t math good OP. The 80/20 rules proves in general women value the same by a wide wide margin. How on earth would you conclude otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:59 PM
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Another small brain post that assumes the gender dynamics of dating and political leaning can’t be separated by the average person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:27 AM
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Social skills have never been less valuable. Social skills only come into play online if you’ve made it past a right swipe which is your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:10 PM
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Because people have one hobby and one hobby only and it defines their entire existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:07 PM
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If I see another dude with the same fucking shaved / short sides and long hair on top I’m going to fucking punch them in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:06 PM
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I stopped reading at “17 year old male”. Here’s a couple of quarters the arcade is that way …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 08:49 PM
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Lack of socialization no. But the stigma that’s been established for a man to approach a woman almost anywhere in public to express interest? 100% changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:14 AM
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Women value attraction first and with such a narrow preference of attraction in men it’s no wonder we’re here. To think otherwise is kidding yourself. Your intelligence and charm in 2023 doesn’t mean a god damn thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:22 PM
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If aziz wasn’t famous - as a short brown man he’d have zero matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:06 PM
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Oh really? I have an endless stream of teacher and student relationships to show you and they’re minors. Guess which gender is caught more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:28 PM
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The number of men looking for an 18 year old like the boogey man tales you read on reddit are few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:29 PM
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Pretty ignorant take but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:26 PM
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I have horrible news for you - there are developed countries outside the west and if you had ever traveled to any you’d know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:47 PM
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I like that she points out it’s not solely on American men to be better and that second it’s okay to be a passport bro. If you have an issue with dating here and want to try your hand somewhere else why should this be stigmatized?
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 02:44 AM
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Oh so now it’s not about human trafficking and ick because of the countries involved? Just lol - what a cope answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:42 AM
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This. But of course an article comes out about passport sisters? It’s no longer exploitation and sex trafficking - it’s empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:41 AM
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Western women won’t accept a date though. So here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:43 PM
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The funny thing is, the values incompatibility argument flies past the one immutable fact: thanks to apps every plain Jane, Becky, or beached whale thinks they’re entitled to a guy to the three sixes. You don’t get to values and personality until you clear that gate and most men who have a normal distribution of attractive likes are sick of the 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:10 PM
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Because western women don’t do this…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:06 PM
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Ah yes virtue signaling for the safety of women overseas. Get over yourself. You simultaneously want men to be alone and stop them from exploring options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:05 PM
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I don’t equate the politics with the tenants and information. Just because someone is the red pill and I agree with them doesn’t also make me think I should agree with their political views.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 08:11 PM
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Because men bad womyn good …. What else do you need to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:49 PM
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You at least get the oasis for ten minutes even if it’s a false mirage. Men are crawling through the desert with no end in sight. And if you have enough of these experiences and feel negatively after it’s time to take a look in the mirror and reconsider your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:39 PM
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It doesn’t mean their life doesn’t suck. It just sucks considerably less than the alternative. She’s at least getting sex even if it’s casual and even if she wants more. It’s worse for guys who are getting nothing in either the physical or emotional department.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:09 AM
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Men will fuck her behind closed doors but not be seen in public with her. That’s just facts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:00 AM
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I’ve found that in todays environment even ugly women have dramatically inflated egos and standards. Like anything negotiate with yourself on what you can and cannot live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:35 AM
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Don’t worry the bro science get to the gym crowd 9/10 times have no fucking clue. They’re idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:23 PM
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This is the top comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:20 PM
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I’ve been here a few years and what you’re seeing is the evolution of the general consensus that the blue pill narrative is indeed just a narrative not based in reality. When I first joined red pill and black pill were underground movements nerds eating cheetohs playing Warcraft talked about. Now it’s on main stream news. How can you avoid the conclusion it must be rising in numbers and thus true?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:16 PM
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They don’t give a shit. Nobody cares about the journey it’s about the destination
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:00 AM
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A lowest common denominator article from CNN … way to go. If this was true then everyone should be the same weight save their movement and I’d love to see all the other people pulling 10K steps a day on the reg
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:48 AM
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What in the troll thread is this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:44 AM
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Show me a fast metabolism fat person … I’ll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:40 AM
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Even at 250 you’re not far. Get to 220 and it’ll look pretty decent. You’re not 75-100 lbs overweight unless you’re planning on dressing up like a femboy ala BTS or Harry Styles
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:36 AM
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She considers Jason Mamoa shirtless in Hawaii a dad bod
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:34 AM
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This is such cap. There’s tons of factors that go into this and your BMR is one major component which you have almost no control over as current studies are showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:33 AM
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He’s full of shit. 2 hours is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:29 AM
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Cite a source or take your incredibly false premise on working out and looking fit elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:29 AM
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For anyone to see shred and cut there’s a line that crosses has to have their entire life revolve around food and working out which is socially a wet fucking blanket
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:28 AM
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So being treated poorly is more socially acceptable if he’s hot? Got it. 🙄🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:27 AM
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You could replaced OLD with life and it’d work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:26 AM
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Suddenly ten ppd women regulars will claim they do … watch
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:24 AM
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Welcome to reddit and most of the anti men responses on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 09:54 PM
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I only used the same euphemism that was used in response to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:23 AM
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Just join an activity bro! Oh wait
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:12 PM
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If you think that somehow correlates to who is red and blue pill you might be the cow…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:25 PM
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I think he/she whatever this poster is and many like them don’t want to believe trp is truth because they’re women and likely have never had to try for male attention in their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:06 PM
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I would wager every cent I have this Disney fantasy in your head doesn’t pan out. We could have a mixer without identifying your pill for an hour and you’d have no fucking clue who is who.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:05 PM
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Ghosting is cowardly regardless of gender. Next question. I’m so sick of hearing “Oh I’m worried for my safety” like 98% of men are violent criminals
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:15 AM
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It ups the chances substantially. Nobody has ever claimed it’s a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:36 PM
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Or better yet - virtue signaling how much of a loser you must be for criticizing women who have casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:36 PM
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I can see the pic, you’re lean. That’s about it. There’s no world in which your arms are 17.5 inches at 170 lbs but okay 🤣🤣🤣 . You got a go fund me for some creatine and actual heavy weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:37 PM
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If they want to they can. That’s the point of this entire post. Not all women do - but a lot do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:49 PM
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Have you tried getting bigger? No offense bro 6 feet 170 is twig weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:46 PM
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This is what the anti Tate anti red pill crowd doesn’t understand. You want guys to not model their behaviors and thoughts? Show men in real life that the regular guys have success too. But in most cases - you can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:42 PM
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The point is that there are no women with the same level of experience as you unless you go much younger which is a whole host of other problems because women by just existing can secure sex if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:40 PM
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This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:28 AM
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You’re filtering out like 75% of women with just this move.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:28 AM
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Thanks body positivity. I walk by overweight female mannequins in every store. All the guy mannequins still have 6 pack abs…… I hate this society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:26 AM
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He’s actually not wrong, just not going to very successful depending on where he is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:25 AM
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“I value fitness and am looking for someone who does too” is another PC way of saying it. But most women who say this fail to realize y’all just look normal or are overweight themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:25 AM
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I’m left of center and trp/bp is truth
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:39 PM
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It’s not always a by product of eating Doritos and ice cream three times a day. Genetics play a large factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:51 PM
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It’s not an insult. It’s a stupid line that a person with even 5% game wouldn’t open with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:40 PM
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Points out he’s black and his muscles intimidate people at work 🙄 Opens lines with hey beautiful 🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:15 PM
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Theoretically programs encouraging men back into education and jobs. Bringing blue collar labor which was a staple of the middle class back to America instead of cheap places like China. Stopping the whole women need help programs for education and the work place because they do not. In practice? None of this will happen. We are headed for Japan. Women on equal footing are showing they don’t actually want equality. They want binary outcomes where they win and men lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 03:45 AM
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This - we can close the thread now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:40 AM
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As a guy who didn’t get that experience would you settle down with someone who did?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:03 PM
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Lol 👌👌👌
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:22 AM
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They have a hard time coming to grips with this because it would mean the underlying points of feminism, women being oppressed by the patriarchy, economic and societal disadvantage is no longer true like it was 40-60 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:03 PM
1

I’m supposed to listen to takes from dudes who look like that seriously? Cleetus and jebediah on YouTube?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:00 PM
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I don’t think people are lying. Men have zero incentive to lie about this stat and the same goes for women. I don’t think it has to do with a misunderstanding of what dating is. Even in a world where the nuanced definition of we’re dating is defined differently it’s not different enough to account for a 2:1 difference. A small number of men experience the dating scene as women do and maybe better - endless options to sleep with and they do it. Women would rather simp for these men, wait for thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 01:58 PM
1

Wow thanks for pointing out this 1 in 1000 corner case. What novel fucking analysis Being labeled creepy or not is entirely tied to how attractive someone is and how attractive the other party finds you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:08 AM
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A surface level vapid take. If there weren’t enough of these men identifying with this there could be a million Andrew Tates and nobody would care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:48 PM
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The thing is if these men didn’t identify with these experiences the platform would go unnoticed. But when you’re a young man who did everything by the book and come to find out the book is twenty years outdated and now you’re middle aged what do people expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:47 PM
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We spent 15 years plus pushing women forward at the expense of men. Societal changes like this don’t happen overnight. They take a while. You now have two to three cohorts of teens through early 30s who grew up in the era of metoo, boss bitch, women’s programs, and dating apps. The answer can’t only be men need to be better. But frankly, when you raise these points and ask for help women ick at the thought or label men as incels, losers, creep, whatever pick an adjective. Just like it’s not miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:44 PM
4

Men have a lot leeway on what is attractive to them than woman. Men have a rainbow of likes. Women? Much more narrowly focused on what is considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:21 PM
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But the experiences are diverging more than ever ... huge problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:20 PM
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Nobody wants to say hey women are more picky and attraction has replaced career success, personality, etc. as the primary driver of selection. Nobody wants to say that. Why? Because that's the same shallow trope that was used to generalize men for the longest time and its hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:19 PM
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Enough time in the dating app era hasn't passed to draw any conclusion about guys later in life. Most people my age never had dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:18 PM
1

If you’re ugly your confidence is mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:07 PM
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I see a lot of women dating the same men. I like how months later you still fight scientific evidence with your own bs conjecture and zero evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:05 PM
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Ah you’re still here - red pill lies … such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:04 PM
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Replace attractive with not entirely ugly and above and it holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:03 PM
0

It goes beyond that though. The feminist and woke machine do not want equality - they want a zero sum game where they win and men lose. There’s no mutually beneficial relationship any more.
/r/AllPillDebate12/12/22 05:44 AM
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Women have far less road or no road for improvement to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:46 PM
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But would there be a possibility of being drawn to their energy if you’re not attracted? I say no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:45 PM
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This used to be the conventional wisdom that men were shallower than women. I don’t know when that changed exactly - but I’ve never encountered shallower people in totality than modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:49 AM
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This is the way. Even then neo liberal politics are as bat shit as Neocon I’m finding
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:45 AM
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In the same breath of telling me men shouldn’t be able to advocate for themselves you then say MRA is about shitting on women. Raising awareness means you view it as a threat against feminism. The best part? No such thing happened when women did this and look where we are now. And yes write my congressman. Can’t wait to see how many votes the men needs rights too position will generate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:11 AM
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This is the thing that isn’t accepted every time this is the response of “well men should do something about it like women did!” . Men are expected to suck up and deal. Anyone advocating for men is pariahed and labeled an incel. So as someone who is feminist - what’s your advice on how men could muster a movement like women did to have the same social structures of support in place?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:57 AM
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I don’t see anyone anywhere in society rushing to help men. The mere mention of helping them gets you labeled an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:37 AM
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Women have structures to escape all of that. Men? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 12:27 AM
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I’ve seen them … it’s super easy to be like this guy is just here for sex or sent me a dick pic. It’s obvious to me maybe because I am a man but still
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:33 PM
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again the only separator in my experience for which side of the fence delineates one from the other for a woman coming from a man is a banned topic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:14 PM
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And anyone with a vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:09 PM
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But when you’re doing those things depending on the situation it’s clingy and ick to women. So we either do and are seen as clingy and cringe or we don’t and we’re assholes. There no winning
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:06 PM
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I think men have far better self awareness and self evaluation than women do in dating. I would posit that hypergamy would be a lot less if men were in this dynamic than women. Men are perfectly content and happy with good enough. Women are always searching for more perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:05 PM
1

This is a bad hypothesis but my counter to it would involve what’s is now considered black pill ideology I guess and that’s banned on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:50 PM
2

Where are these average dudes doing just fine? Please show. Is this where I get told to go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:30 AM
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Cowardice or not is reinforced by others treat or approach which is determined by your attractiveness level. This sounds very blue pillish to me. You're right life isn't a movie. If an average guy is extroverted girls are less inclined to have a good time with him because he's not attractive versus the hot guy. This plays out every day on planet earth everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:24 AM
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Not true. I've asked plenty of women and strangers what I look like and I'm told im average. I am very easy to talk to in person and average looking. The combination has served me fuck all in the romance department for women who weren't morbidly obese. The work it takes to get a date with someone who isn't is immeasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:15 AM
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Downvote me all everyone wants - this is such a toxic viewpoint and what is driving society to where it is. But let's keep pushing this and have the reaction to such ridiculous thought go even more mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:13 AM
1

Yeah what the fuck post is this? If it were only so easy to have the bare minimum bar of having the opposite sex in your social circle. Why didn't I think of that!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:12 AM
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This is super black and white and not how it really works. Let's assume the guy is hot. In scenario A he's mysterious and in scenario B he is the life of the party. If he's not hot? In scenario A he's the weirdo you referenced and in scenario B he's seen as annoying. But try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:09 AM
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It's just another buzz word that is thrown around to separate the attractive people from not. Want proof? An attractive person who is confident is seen as confident. An unattractive person being confident? That's socially unaware and arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:06 AM
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Forget status symbol - it’s in some ways becoming seen as unattractive. Oh he’s alright looking but he can provide. Maybe I’ll fuck chad or Tyrone on the side while I play wifey for him
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:32 AM
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Can we stop with the men expect out of this world pretty shit? If anything - and there are countless studies that bare this out - women are far shallower now than men on appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:28 AM
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The red pill ideology has never been more mainstream and popular because the only thing that matters for a guy now are looks. I don’t care if you’re a man or a woman - but this is just facts at this point. Women got us here - enjoy what comes next. The same turn off behaviors are suddenly seen as so sweet and amazing in a guy she’s attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:23 AM
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That’s nuts. This is truly how a society stagnates. Great work feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:44 PM
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We’re headed for South Korea style gender dynamics which is where we do not want to be
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:58 AM
1

How hot are you is what determines the line sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:56 AM
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If we dissuade from cold approach and online what’s left
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:56 AM
2

Women send signals when they’re interested and you must be an autist to miss them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:54 AM
4

Blue sounds like a wonderful utopian ideal where everyone sits around the fire and sings koombaya
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 01:51 AM
2

As a former totally leftist man - the shit that’s gone on in the last few years is pushing me to the right. I can no longer stand the everything is racist, woke, bullshit. I can’t stand that women get everything at the expense of men and nobody gives a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:57 AM
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No angry bitter older women in general shame any age gap when the man is older but celebrate it when the woman is older. Another awesome women double standard. Leo? Creep. Demi Moore? Boss. Hugh Jackmans wife who was 40 and he 27 when they met? Zero hate. Switch those genders and age gaps? Prepare for rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:55 AM
1

I don’t talk about trp unless it’s with friends who are also aware of the pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 03:50 AM
1

Not sure I totally agree that it’s not anyone’s fault in todays paradigm but I hear you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:28 AM
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Some are doing it because they’re autistic and but most are doing it for the sad reason they’re really that attention and affection starved. It’s depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:06 AM
2

Great post but it’s never ever happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:02 AM
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The triple 6 may be over played - but women would never ever date their looksmatch unless super hot or super ugly. That’s the issue. Average women do not want average attractiveness men because tinder says they can go out with above average and just maybe lightning strikes and she can win him over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 06:00 AM
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Is it? We live in a day where femboy boy banders who haven’t seen the inside of a gym in their lives are being voted as sexiest man alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:58 AM
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It’s one of the top post on PPDs this year and it was titled something like the mistake that women make isn’t assuming that the majority of men are undatable. The mistake they make it assuming they are. In essence yes - social media and old has bubble inflated the self confidence and sense of self in the average woman who is able to get sex casually but never lock down those same guys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:54 AM
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This had nothing to do one mental health over the other. But a woman journalist attempted to live as a man and ended up killing herself and a lot of had to do with her treatment as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:12 AM
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What does that even mean? Would anyone in every day be considered though if they weren’t a rich famous comedian?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:10 AM
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You have terrible reading comprehension. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:02 AM
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I wish women could walk one mile in an average man’s shoes. One who did ended up committing suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:41 AM
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Looks are more important than anything. And for fucks sake can we stop with the Pete Davidson example? One normal looking guy who smokes a ton of weed, is rich and famous, has access to celebrity circles is running through models. He’s the exception that proves the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:40 AM
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It’s a combo of both. But nobody gives a shit and sick of the gynocentric narrative. Women have never been at a larger advantage in the history of society and it’s at the cost of men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:38 AM
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The saltiness is justified. But men are doing it to themselves. The drive to get any attention and physical touch is overriding the attraction portion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:45 AM
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This is what I don’t understand. You walk into target and half the mannequins for women are fat or obese. When you walk past the man ones they’re still chiseled and six packed. Why is this double allowed to be pushed forward? You can’t say anything about a woman’s body but for a man? Anything goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:44 AM
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Men in general like to fix things. Women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:30 PM
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I don’t disagree with the part about the economy being a factor but the cardinal mistake your every day woman make is thinking they are clear and above the every day man and they ain’t
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:27 PM
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For every woman that’s gonna call her average and an uggo - please post one of yourself so we can judge too. Thanks. She’s hot. And for the record - you ALL wear make up, pose, tuck in, use filters etc. to make yourselves appear better on social media. Way to cherry pick the candid shots because I’m sure you’re all Victoria secret models behind the keyboard all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:24 PM
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Some women get mad when other women call them out on their bullshit. They can’t call her an incel and or a misogynist and move on with their day. They have to actually come up with a counter and we all know there isn’t one that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:22 PM
1

I really like pearl and she’s ridiculously attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:19 PM
1

What do you look like and where do you hang out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:35 PM
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As a guy in the same age range - yes exactly. I feel terrible for guys these days especially in the younger age brackets the way dating is talked about. The deck has never been so stacked
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:33 PM
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Of course they are, it validates their world view for it to turn out that way on the show
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:23 PM
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As I pointed out in another thread - trp and bp have become much more main stream in the last year. A lot more people are suddenly awake to the realities of modern dating
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:54 PM
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Dating during these stages isn’t important because you may find your soul mate, but it’s like batting practice before getting to the big leagues. Especially in high school. If you don’t get to practice you are going to be so so so behind as a man in the dating world. It’s fucking gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:51 PM
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Red pill and even black pill are extremely more main stream than they were 12 months ago. But I don’t know if that’s some novel break through. More people are aware of it and more people agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:48 PM
1

Does that make them femcels?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:47 PM
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So much this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:46 PM
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There’s tons of guys like this. You can think modern society for the stupidity of labeling them incels. In fact - there’s far more men like this and the genuine Nice Guys trope that is peddled. That’s what’s annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:44 PM
1

Richer is the easier of those two to solve
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:10 PM
0

Is that a banned word on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:51 PM
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My dude - you’ve come to the wrong place. Try the same as a man in that spot and see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:47 PM
1

Do something about for yourself and for others? I know that’s a crazy concept
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:57 PM
2

What did you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:17 PM
1

It happens a ton my friend - a ton
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:16 PM
1

Really? How did you manage that - not mocking just curious what you saw that made you think it would change? Why is it still socially acceptable to body shame men? Money is definitely the great equalizer it’s either there or it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:43 PM
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I agree in general does nothing. But if you told me 20 years ago fat women, and I don’t mean slightly overweight I mean morbidly obese women would through their complaining on the internet about being labeled as such band together and bring multiple industries into the fold under “body positive” I would have laughed at you. So far fetched? Yes. Impossible? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 01:19 PM
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I’m not reading your wall of text response. Donald trump is not one of my examples. You couldn’t be bothered to read two lines? Two fucking lines?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 10:29 AM
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It’s way more accepted and common now than you all thibj
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:16 AM
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Also newsflash - I don’t have to be happy about it or roll over and take it laying down. Oh that’s right - we don’t want the serfs doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:12 AM
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Of course the correct answers are found by sorting by controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:11 AM
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Because the notion that women want equality is a farce. We’ve achieved equality - now they want blood metaphorically speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 05:08 AM
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This should have far more upvotes than it does. There is no equality. There is only winner take all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:48 AM
1

Guess I’m a bitch or whatever word
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:54 AM
1

Shocking takes from checks notes - north of 30 child free and looking at elite singles. Massive eye roll
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:56 PM
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There’s some truth to this but on a large scale this doesn’t bare out because most women today thanks to OLD think they are Stacy and deserve Chad because he’s happy to get it wet in an average girl but would never date or wife one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:46 PM
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Oh god the fucking porn argument. Can this please be banned? It’s not a symptom it’s a result. Guy gets rejected, guy still wants to Jack off, watching porn sure as fuck beats imagination, so he does it. Literally has zero to do with anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:42 PM
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Why do so many people make the assumption that being nice and a good person is a means to an end? Maybe I should have added being attractive wasn’t as big a deal as it is and that your personality could raise you a few points. That’s simply not true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 05:50 PM
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Because I’m hostile to stupid arguments? Lol 👌👌
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:45 PM
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If only everyone was paid this level of optimism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:44 PM
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I’m hostile when the replies are retarded which yours are. And of course instead of counter anything I said you’re butthurt over response tone. Tell me more that I’m right please. The trope that guys are nice just to get women then suddenly take their mask off to be an asshole is not what I’m saying and even if it was it exists in such small amounts that the response is a word I can’t say on this sub to the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:40 PM
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Really? Thanks for the update. But I was also told the same but all the women in my life as well. So what shapes our world view if not a combo of experience and what you’re exposed to? Is social media where all of todays idiotic expectations getting set real or fake? So it’s a fantasy put forth by the media that being the nice guy will get you the girl? Where did I say a man being good or kind is only an act to get a girl? Any more circle jerk replies you’d like to make? You instantly assumed me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:36 PM
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It’s funny to me that in 2022 this has become the counter argument when for decades and even now still the media spins the story that the guy with a heart of gold wins the girl at the end of the day and that just doesn’t happen. But sure - it’s probably just me. Any more weak counter arguments you all have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:25 PM
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Cash in on her looks how exactly? She’s pretty but not omg beautiful. She doesn’t have an onlyfans … she’s not really advertising anything on fiver. Edit: if you’re gonna be butt hurt and take my internet points (oh no) at least explain yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:40 PM
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She just talked to six women for a series of videos and then concluded at the end of it that womens standards are too unrealistic. If she wasn’t a woman she’d be getting killed for putting something like that out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:39 PM
0

You’re simping for a girl on ppd? Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:41 PM
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Growing up being told that be nice, a good person, blah blah was most important. Seeing all the bullshit surrounding how personality could win anyone over. Then looking at the reality around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:24 PM
5

January likes to spit gibberish a lot. Don’t worry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:18 PM
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CourtneyRyan is coming around to redpill too where previously she wasn’t about it at all. It’s a sight to behold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:17 PM
0

I think women have become inherently more unfriendly. I have tons of examples
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:08 PM
0

Shitty people are going to cheat. That’s the haps. It’s still a statistical game and so pointing out one guy doesn’t make an argument. A guy no less that is a C or D level internet celebrity. Shall we play the real celebrity chad cheats on spouse game? The lists is a lot longer and higher profile than this fucking nobody I didn’t know existed before this story broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:06 PM
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It’s not important at all. Nobody cares about status or any of that mumbo jumbo any more the only thing that matters is looks. Props to social media
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 04:02 PM
1

Women don’t like porn because like anything else nobody likes competition even if it’s not on the same playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:46 PM
1

Because any time an argument falls back into the not all and whataboutisms it’s the tell tale sign of a weak argument. Your premise that porn teaches men sexually abusive behavior or is sexually abusive is flat incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:35 PM
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Ah yes the not all argument. Point being - it’s not porn that has ever put any of those ideas into my head of wanting to do them. I’ve been with more woman than not who were into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:29 PM
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I used to think there was an issue with doing this. Lack of honor or the right thing to do. But with the way the dating game has evolved - fuck em and let the world burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:16 PM
1

I’ve been proactively asked to do this by multiple women in my experience. It’s made me super uncomfortable. You’re underestimating what happens behind closed doors from the very same women who virtue signal in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:15 PM
1

Women have always been the ones to ask me to do many of the horrible things that if discussed publicly would be labeled abusive or deviant bedroom behavior when I had zero interest. This is cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:13 PM
1

Can you dive deeper into how?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:03 PM
2

We don’t see unlimited attractive women in real life. There’s objectively as many 5 women in real life than men. The truly stunning and gorgeous are just as rare equally in both genders. The ugly the same the average the same. What’s happened is the gross over inflation of womens egos and standards due to dating apps and yas qween movement. A woman who is not dating alone? She must have standards and is empowered! A man in the same? What a loser incel. Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:58 AM
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Thanks for typing this out. Even if you’re at median in all attributes and given what we’re discussing here the variables I’d say are mutually exclusive and hence to be average and median in them all simultaneously in aggregate would make that person above average. But clearly most of these people didn’t pay attention during that part of class.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:49 PM
10

Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:24 PM
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He’s basing it on his one week of lifting, the tinder swipe he got from a bot, and the finally worked up enough courage to say hi to his barista last Wednesday. Now he’s gonna compete in Jordan Petersens market space.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:23 PM
8

Women have changed. Attractiveness far outweighs the other items on your list
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:22 PM
5

If I could frame a reddit post that exemplifies this sub it’s right here. Guy creates white knight thread about men not being average and having poor social skills then in a reply cites BSOD 🤣🤣🤣 Okay nerd, where can I get some more of your self help books?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:21 PM
9

Her post history is in FDS. Next question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:18 PM
31

That’s actually true and how a multidimensional tier rating system works. But lmfao some more tough guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:18 PM
6

The people on this sub are becoming boring as fuck. Now we have a new character - white knight bro telling all the other bros who how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:17 PM
5

Women have an arsenal of tools to make themselves look more attractive than they are. No such luck on mens side. So yeah if we add a ton of artificial things in the make up category then sure they look better
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 08:20 PM
7

Most people are average. I don’t encounter model level women even in my highly attractive region of the country and I also rarely encounter a guy who impresses me physically. People need to get off Instagram and tik tok. The putting women on this huge pedestal and casual sex is what has fucked the dating market.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/22 04:24 PM
1

At what threshold is looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:57 PM
1

What’s SW circle?
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 11:01 PM
1

Where is this mythical guy doesn’t get judged like woman for n count? Nobody wants to date a whore of either gender. And fyi N count is squarely within your control. Hey PPD mods - what’s with the uptick and allowance of continuous autist threads on a daily basis recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:18 AM
1

Omg this article. She looks …. Interesting and there used to be a phrase for this: she’s a sugar baby. She’s not dating up
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/22 12:53 AM
4

Props to the mods for picking someone for this pick and taking the suggestion for even representation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:52 PM
3

It’s not ignorance, it’s a step worse. They know what’s important and the outcomes that are preferable enrage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 05:49 PM
2

Great analysis - you clearly didn’t read the study. Sexlessness in women also increases but by a factor 5X less than the increase in men. What other conclusion can you draw? And if we’re gonna throw stones at the scientific method of a published paper for using survey then every study in the history of ever using a survey is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:48 PM
3

Only a fucking autist would phrase it this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:41 AM
6

I always chuckle when I read something like this. If this were case the sexlessness rates in younger males wouldn’t be going up. There’s recent studies that show more women having sex with fewer men IE the top shelf of men are having most of the sex. The bar for men has never in human history been higher and to think otherwise is outright stupidity or blindness. It’s a simple byproduct of increased competition introduced by OLD and social media. There’s no counter argument to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:07 PM
1

Where in the Mano sphere again is this allegedly a hot take?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:05 PM
7

I think the average woman has so much sexual attention thrown at her compared to her average male counterpart that they simply don’t want the average man at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:03 PM
1

The ick is very logical. Stop talking to morons. There are clear reasons why some men and women too wouldn’t want a high N partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:58 AM
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Because when men communicate a preference of any kind - be it weight, n count, body type, education, pick a topic they get criticized into oblivion for being misogynist. The inverse isn’t true and that can fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:54 AM
1

I don’t know why this topic comes up every fucking day. Here’s the deal, downvote away and be mad. Everyone - regardless of gender is allowed their own preferences. Guys don’t want a girl with a high n count? Great. Girls don’t want a fat virgin? Great. Everyone gets to have their way. Just because one side or the other doesn’t like the stigma associated is just too fucking bad. Deal with it. Actions have consequences and everyone - everyone judges you for your present and past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:53 AM
2

Women are the majority initiator of a break up and all but the most unattractive women can hop on a dating app five seconds later and find companionship. Next question
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:42 PM
1

So getting something is objectively worse than nothing? That makes total sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:32 AM
1

A woman has to have a pulse and not be completely repulsive and she’ll do fine in the current dating world. Stop being delusional. I didn’t say anything anywhere about big meanie women. Take your SJW shit elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:58 AM
3

Unless you look like Jabba the Hutt this is pretty much true. Even then - it’s partially true. No such luck the other way. Can we stop pretending that the world isn’t this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:33 PM
2

Why do people continually push this question? Men are allowed to have N count preferences. I don't care what anyone thinks it means if a guy doesn't want someone who has slept with more than X number of people he's comfortable with. It doesn't mean he's insecure or some sort of mongrel or incel, it's his body, his choice. I swear to god you people who keep posting this shit are doing so to try and justify your own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:20 PM
3

The underlying issues are that for the better part of 30 years men have been told being man bad. Women have been pushed forward in education and in the professional workplace. They get into and graduate college at higher rates than men. Things men were taught about womens preferences were mostly a total lie. Merge this with the rise of dating apps, body positivity, and the normalized and accepted misandry at levels at least equal to classic misogyny. The best part about all? They'll never get ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:15 PM
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Okay let’s try reading the post instead of reeeeeee attacks. Those are preferences but don’t bullshit because you know one person out of 100 who has what people would consider non conventional attraction preferences a rule of preference variation and a gotcha. They’re literally exceptions that prove the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:32 AM
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Your taste is like 1 in 50 maybe 1 in 100. Your friends tastes are far more common and hence where the generalization comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:40 AM
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We’re headed for a terrible future at this rate.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/22 08:47 PM
10

I don’t think it’s a lack of nuance, it’s the true broad generalization. The vast majority of women in todays society value looks of a certain aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:45 PM
2

That’s total cap
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:06 PM
2

Im glad to see the majority of women fess up to the correct answer: looks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:47 PM
3

The last thing I’d expect is fairness. I’m expecting acknowledgement of the unfairness and hoping that reasonable people will have some sympathy other than tough shit fuck you that’s what it is. There’s a few of you on here. And you’re talking about casual sex. You labeled men who have casual sex “big boys” which is a very small part of the male populous and then labeled the very large remainder silly for wanting to be the same. And people are surprised why young men are angry and becoming incre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:43 PM
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In one sentence you labeled it being a big boy and in the other labeled it silly. This is part of the issue, which is it? Why is it so controversial to acknowledge the high level of female privilege in this arena?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:22 PM
1

I don’t know but a ton of people do it 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:23 PM
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Here’s the thing … most guys don’t stand a chance but every woman does. And hence it becomes a source of the bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:50 PM
1

No - being 6 foot and making well into 6 figures can’t overcome looks. I’m a walking bulletin board for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:03 PM
1

Personality doesn’t matter nearly as much as the world would have you believe. It’s a secondary trait. Your personality is only of consequence if she finds you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:01 PM
1

What made the light flip switch for you and him to go from friends to more?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:12 PM
1

Please please please do this and post your results. Your arrogance in this thread on this topic is beyond reproach.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:09 PM
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It’s heart breaking and heartening to read stuff like this. He’s such a great guy I can’t believe he didn’t have more luck dating. There are scores of men like this with this experience vs. the asshole douche who has great success.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:07 PM
1

Ever walk through a target? Ever see the fat male mannequin? Me neither. Guess what you fat mannequin you do see though now? Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:04 PM
-1

The thing that isn’t acceptable is also the easiest one to achieve. There’s an opportunity to self organize legal change every 12 months
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:01 AM
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This is such a dumb thing to say because this is how every movement starts. A loud minority which quietly, steadily, grows. We’re at the beginning of a societal shift in dating and only recently have the current problems had a light shed on them and are generally accepted by every person who isn’t a moron. Over time unless things change as this percent will grow. Look at the rise of pill content in otherwise main stream places. Thinking it’s some loser niche is exactly what will give it life. Gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:47 AM
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It’s not just PPD, it’s every sub on reddit. On DOT a woman asked why she wasn’t getting any matches good matches. She looked average enough in every way. Then one of the last pictures on her profile was her at a coffee shop wearing a the future is female shirt. Several people pointed this out to her and the hive mind attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:39 AM
5

It’s still ultimately the weaker of the two powers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:15 AM
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They’re more rare than you’re giving credit for. Misandry is accepted in todays society. There’s no two ways about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:11 AM
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Okay riddle me this - men did not want overweight/obese women to date in the history of history up until the last few years when this group of women banded together and formed the body positivity movement. If you were a man and this was your struggle, how would you go about it organizing something similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:09 AM
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You’re also missing the point that one’s who do are called oppressors for thinking they have a right to a woman’s body, advocating for mens issues no matter what they are are not en vogue, and media/social media has made it so everything is a zero sum game of us vs them. The list goes on. Nobody gives a shit about men or their issues. The response to the current climate is the growing rise of right wing social ideology. While I totally disagree with the restriction on abortions and overturn of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:06 AM
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im sure youre fine. a truly below average person is very rare unless it has to with weight. most guys arent lusting after OF girls and insta thots. keep your head up sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:43 PM
1

You missed the part where I said “can you imagine…”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:30 PM
1

That was exactly my point
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:22 PM
0

Women are fortunate men have such range. The mental health crisis that would befall American society if men here stopped thinking with their dick would have devastating consequences. Can you imagine telling every 5 girl she better put in the work to get up to an 8 through work out, diet, bettering her career, etc. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:46 AM
1

What do you bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:42 AM
1

The problem is in todays woke bullshit society the equal response to a woman in any of these situations will get you cancelled
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:41 AM
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Women: men have to do better Also women: we don’t have to do anything When will things balance out? When society’s social leanings swing far more right. It’s already happening. Enough of feminism and everything being about empowering women. It’s a lie, they don’t equality they want to have their cake and eat it too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:38 AM
2

So many triggered women by this post. Women don’t have to justify a plethora of preferences and the same should be extended to men but of course you lot are labeling this like other criticisms whatever comes to mind. Sleeping around for any woman in todays society requires no effort. It doesn’t make you special. It communicates you have bad judgement. It’s fine for fwb or casual but I’d never seriously date or wife a high N count woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:29 AM
0

Double standard - she’s just not saying it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 08:19 AM
2

They don’t sting but I still remember
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:18 AM
10

I guess that means it should sting less?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 11:31 PM
1

The end game of this is a lot of loneliness for everyone. I know men already agree and women will deny it, but that’s where it’s headed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:22 PM
3

Yeah the success part has definitely changed. Having a plan and wanting something is no longer enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:17 PM
2

All 3 are true but as someone looking for an LTR, number 3 hits home the most and is most true and 1 a close second. Born in the 80s the keep your nose down and grind it’ll happen just believe! Was a common trope and it’s just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:14 PM
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I had women humiliate me in high school without making any moves. I still remember all the negative interactions I had like it was yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:10 PM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:04 PM
1

Andrew Tate is a fucking moron. I have no idea why people hate on Jordan Peterson.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:19 PM
2

I see it play out all the time at my company. Program after program for women. It’s so old.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:18 PM
2

It’s going to be up to men to fix the problem even if it’s not exclusively of their making because women have made it very clear for the most part they’re doing just fine and don’t give a shit. My only concern/warning is when the solution comes along it will not be something that sits well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:10 PM
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Also left here but have been exhausted by the overfocus on woke issues. I no longer care and am actually cringing at the gender and race issues these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:19 PM
6

They’re content because for the vast majority getting in a relationship, validation, or physical touch is easy compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:21 PM
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I’d say we shouldn’t withdraw rights or basic things like DV shelters. What we should do is immediately cease special programs designed to forward women in getting into college, getting ahead in some area, or getting into a company. It’s frankly steering away resources from being equal across genders and the 1980/1990s notion that women are being held down and treated unequally has to stop. Women are getting into college at the widest gap in US history. The “held down” female is now a boogie man…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:27 AM
2

I woulda guessed 5-8
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:55 PM
13

Also if new mods are going to be added the spectrum of pills should be represented equally among the new mods. I think the current sidebar currently bans black pill, but it’s clearly a thing now and should be allowed. The race one is a tough one. Having a preference is fine, I don’t agree it’s fetishization or whatever. Being racist is of course not fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:52 PM
1

Thirded this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:51 PM
2

In todays dating world of OLD veto power is the only power. You’re thinking of a bygone era
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:35 PM
2

They do the initiating but that’s hardly choosing. Women choose who to say and no to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:56 PM
2

Men are the choosers? On what planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 06:13 PM
2

Stop trolling with posts like this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:50 PM
1

Really? You’re gonna need to source this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:43 PM
1

I believe in love. But finding love is being made impossible. Extraordinary effort to get a date and then even more extraordinary effort to keep it going to the point of a relationship while she considers the other options and then let’s say you pass all those even further extraordinary effort to get to gf/bf and keep it going and hope she doesn’t decide one day oops I want my freedom, I want to see other people, or this isn’t working.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:38 PM
5

I don’t see any issue with this other than she handed the same generic guy the resume a buncha times and you’re telling me she couldn’t find this on hinge?
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 03:59 PM
1

Sometimes it’s becoming less common though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:57 PM
6

Exactly, the millennial generation was raised this way. Gen Z is rebelling against it. Props to them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:53 AM
10

They deserve it. It’s a monster of their own creation. Kudos to the men of Gen Z for recognizing the world for what it is and not taking it laying down. I applaud them there. At the 16/24 age everything was still supposed to be flowers and butterflies and rainbows for men in Gen X and millennial.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:51 AM
5

I was far more left leaning a few years ago than I am now. I’ve become mentally exhausted by the left making everything a crusade on someone’s behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:47 AM
1

Where to begin. I’m a millennial. I learned my opinions mostly by personal experience. I too started my journey in the 2000s-early 2010s with the mindset that women were being held down, falling behind, etc. so I sought to be an ally. However, Gen Z, the me too movement to a degree, neofeminism, woke culture, body acceptance for women only, the constant corporate barrage of forwarding women in education and employment even though stats show they clearly no longer fucking need it, the veil being …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:44 AM
10

But society is clearly showing us women refuse to compromise even a little on attraction for those other “desirable” traits. It’s a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:33 AM
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No, it’s when women felt comfortable in the endless support and defense mechanisms in the public and private eye that enough of them went fuck it here’s the deal for men and enough are taking notice all the fairytales the MSM spins about love and relationship is utter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:32 AM
9

My first thought without reading any of the comments was, if Aziz wasn’t a famous comedian hed have 0 matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:03 PM
3

Given what’s happened the last decade or so in the dating market, I’m not surprised. The rise of neofeminism and liberalism has hurt the average man and below in the dating market. I’ve found my own political beliefs changing as well. I used to be very liberal and all my friends and family still think I am. But as my income increased, I’m less a fan of economic policies put out by democrats and sociopolitically am all for rights and freedom to choose but the woke movement has gone too far. Think…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:02 PM
1

Mens problems are worse. You lack the empathy to see it because you don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:59 AM
3

Continues to sleep with chad, comes to internet to complain about it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:58 AM
3

Women have been given far too much privilege over the last decade Women lie about what it is they’re truly looking for. Reeeeee I want a committed LTR but I keep getting pumped and dumped why are men so bad? Women are the choosers yet do a horrible job at it Women are without question the shallower of the two sexes Women have pushed body positivity to make men in America accept fat women, but will not extend men the same courtesy Women monkey branch Women simp harder than men do if he’s hot enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:49 AM
3

If a man wrote this same post the hive mind would be calling him pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:41 AM
1

Because women are full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:32 AM
1

You’re making shit up. Show me a hoe claiming to be a virgin. I’ll wait …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:41 AM
1

It’s two separate problem sets. I have no sympathy for the person who is sitting at a buffet with infinite options and can’t stop food poisoning themselves and instead of taking personal responsibility for eating the meat that’s been left out of the fridge for 5 days and has flies on it, instead blames the meat for being rotten. I have a lot of sympathy for the person putting in the work to be the best they can be and still getting told no, because up through the millennial generation they were …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:36 AM
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OP keeps making threads on this topic. Look hun, if it’s not your thing it’s not your thing. There’s a ton of women who are just fine with it. You sound like someone who is in your early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:27 AM
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Marriage is eroding and will continue to do so. Social media, neofeminism, woke culture and society has ruined interpersonal relationships. I see a lot of Gen Z struggling in the dating market and even less willing to marry. Something bad will happen to snap society back into more trad and socially conservative values but what that is and how long into the future, I have no idea. But todays dating culture? This ain’t it fam, this ain’t it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:23 AM
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This is just another reeeeeeee thread for who knows what reason. Nobody is claiming they want only a virgin for marriage or complaining about female promiscuity at face value. Quit straw man bullshit arguing. What’s the most common beef is no guy wants to be the guy who has to wait N dates for sex when X number of other men didn’t have to wait and had to do nothing for it. I don’t think women inherently lie about their N count and honestly, if you get to the point long enough where you sleep tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:17 AM
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TRP is very hard but ultimately leads directly back to where the premise of black pill begins. Looks are everything and nothing else matters. It’s a really sucky situation and it used to not be this extreme. Looks mattered but other things could offset. Social media has made people so shallow and surface that you can make up for being a nazi general if you’re good looking but being a great successful guy means nothing the other way
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/22 11:12 PM
5

Given the current state of dating is it any surprise? Looks are the 90% determinant of what gets anyone through the door
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/22 12:56 AM
12

Reddit: Losing weight is easy. Redditor who is 5’6 and 140 lbs soak and wet wearing boots
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:35 AM
6

I definitely think this is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:57 AM
6

Anything and everything to deflect from the facts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:51 AM
1

OP where on planet earth are you located?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:49 AM
1

You too can do all these things with absolutely zero family obligations after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:33 AM
3

But has she tried showering?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:31 AM
4

Confused by this… what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:24 PM
1

Toned versus jiggly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:49 PM
1

Eh I saw otherwise - women will be thin but not a hard body for the most part and I don’t live in a part of the country where people are eating McDonald’s all day in front of the tv
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:46 PM
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Most younger women < 30 don’t generally have to. But as you get older it’s important. Looks are by and far the largest determining factor of success and I’m not sure why the public at large still acts like it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:41 PM
2

Maybe it’s because I don’t work retail at my age but I wouldn’t sleep with any of my coworkers or subordinates cause I’d lose my job. Sleeping with my female friends would be weird on so many counts - even if given the chance wouldn’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:21 PM
1

If you’re not morbidly obese / obese this is pretty doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:19 PM
1

Kudos to women on this thread answering honestly - looks is what it was. Next time someone complains about BP content here’s a thread to shut them up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:14 PM
6

Lots of women and I’ve found the east coast to be generally less shallow than the west
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:16 PM
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Everyone of those people must be misogynistic monsters who don’t shower, have no hobbies, and never leave the house. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:08 AM
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I’m gonna go a step further. I think it depends largely on where you live what average is and thus your dating success. In a major metro on one of the coasts? Most of the time you’re cooked if you’re an average man. Somewhere in flyover country that’s less shallow and more down to earth on average? You’re probably fine and if you’re not then you’re not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 06:01 AM
1

It’s guy who obviously lifts who isn’t eating 300gs of protein a day, timing his meals, and taking creatine. It’s literally in shape guy who is bulking. This is different than what dad bod used to mean a few years back which was chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:25 AM
1

Yeah I’m also in my late 30s, I watch porn and it has exactly zero negative impact on my desire to pursue women. If anything it heightens it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:46 PM
2

Can you explain this? Is the thought that porn is distorting what a partner should look like? I keep seeing porn blamed for woes but what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:55 PM
2

I see lots of men struggle and none of them are like this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:54 PM
3

I know my issue, I’m working on it. But I don’t see myself being benevolent when the time comes. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 08:27 PM
4

Is there some grand explanation why women continually pick guys who pump and dump them over average guy? It’s looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:44 PM
3

Do you see how even this statement and timeline given it’s the end of August is insane? Not saying it’s wrong for you to be doing what you’re doing - but holy shit we need to stop with the equating the very different problem sets as equally difficult or emotionally as draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:18 PM
3

Where are these average women who are having as much unluckiness in dating as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:09 PM
1

I think it’s also regional as well. If you’re in an area with a lot of attractive IE California it’s an elevated handicap in the dating scene than say somewhere the average person isn’t as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:04 PM
3

Yeah and this is the issue - now that that’s happened it’s hard sometimes to not try and make something out of nothing. Many opportunities don’t come along in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:44 PM
7

This is where I’m at. It was one bad break up plus lots of bad dating experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:52 PM
1

I don’t think posture does either unless you’re a hunch back
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:32 AM
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Yep, not sure why this is a controversial take around the internets
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 09:26 PM
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There’s tons more to relationships than physically attraction but physical attraction is the single determinant of what gets you through the door
/r/AllPillDebate23/08/22 08:42 PM
1

Figures
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:51 PM
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No but the length of the rope is long and there’s a rope at all. If you’re not attractive there is no opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:37 PM
1

I like the true rate me guide in concept but the examples and scoring are borderline stupid of what is considered in each tier
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:26 PM
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IMO it’s location dependent too. A 7.5 on the east coast has little hope of still being so on the west coast.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:25 PM
1

Where are you from?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:24 PM
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Plenty of evidence to the contrary. A looking man or woman is given far more runway to mess up or are we going to debate that too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:20 PM
1

I’d caution against sleeping with a drunk girl in college these days. There’s a small but high enough chance in the morning they decide it was rape
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:16 PM
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Even in middle and high school. What determines if you like someone? It was LOOKS. So you’re an average to unattractive guy in middle/high school and you start on the same level playing field as everyone but immediately are squashed for your looks and it doesn’t get better from there as you get older. If you don’t know how to have a conversation and be normal I got nothing for you but attracting women in the first place is 90% of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:15 PM
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TIL that posture is looks 🤣🤣 You posted a lot words but with the assumption of that he’s attractive. Looks is the largest barrier to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:12 PM
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Slobs who are good with women? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:07 PM
0

It’s got zero to do with sOciAl SkIlLz
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:05 PM
1

On the flip side of this coin I’m curious what’s so special about this female friend of yours? Can you describe her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:02 PM
5

A wonderfully straw men bs argument. Population and evolution - that’s a new one. As a percent of the pie - RP has never been more popular. It’s not a fringe movement anymore. I know the rainbows and daisies crowd over in BP don’t like reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:44 AM
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Proof? It’s more popular than ever. I don’t see how that tracks with more men are averse to it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:19 AM
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Then she’s likely a weeb waifu herself right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:14 PM
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Full RP is a moronic and I’m red/black leaning. 1 and 2 do not contradict each other. If she’s promiscuous and ladies it’s easy to tell/assume at this point then point 2 comes into play because why be made to wait where others have not? If she’s low N and relationship material then waiting is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:09 AM
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Survival of the fittest has nothing to do with todays dating climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:06 AM
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My anti f choices? Quite the assumption. Women who are simultaneously unhappy despite their options and prospects are plainly losers who need to learn to choose better. But since the majority factor is looks and not much else, this rarely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:24 PM
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And it’s going to become increasingly common unless laws change which they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:50 PM
1

Because one side is on the advantaged side and one side is losing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:44 PM
1

Yes it’s this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:43 PM
4

This is literally a meme. Where are these men that have BO and don’t shower?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:42 PM
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Delusional people on this sub think it’s the same problem with the same challenge level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:42 PM
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Great reply
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:49 PM
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Women rarely have the shoe put on the other foot and when they do it’s earth shattering. I feel for her as much as I do for men who experience the same. But sadly most women will just go on blaming men for being insecure incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:23 PM
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This isn’t a bait and switch. Lol. Family happens, work happens, life happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:14 PM
2

Emotional abuse is the most common one people tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:13 PM
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What you posted used to be true, but in the last decade or so isn’t true any more. Men don’t value looks nearly as much as women. If women and men valued looks equally, this sub wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:07 PM
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Another thread where the majority of women can’t admit the awful truth: personality is nearly meaningless and physical attraction is what matters most. At least some of you women are and I commend you. women are shallower than men. It’s an idea that is gaining traction finally.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:00 PM
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Also - it must be how you dress or you should shower. How many guys do you see walking around town in a torn shirt and bad pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:57 PM
1

I know a handful of normal younger women who are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:55 PM
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Average to less than average women have zero problem finding someone. The inverse simply isn’t true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:54 PM
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Women being honest about they find attractive would destroy the fairytale of lies and bullshit they’ve created. They have no incentive to do so so instead they’ll keep up the lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:45 PM
1

My income is high but irrelevant here …. But yeah upping income is always a good thing. Nobody ever said I have enough cash
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:51 AM
1

You mentioned location not being a city. That may play into it versus a major metro like Los Angeles or New York
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:50 PM
1

Okay so you’re in shape ish. The height thing never made sense to me but then again I’m 6’5. Why would that rub anyone the wrong way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:34 PM
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That’s what I’m saying …. The body positivity movement is utter garbage because it’s pushing bigger women - sometimes morbidly so as okay. But not for men. Either it’s all the same across genders or it isn’t. And clearly it isn’t in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:30 PM
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I’m starting to think you have poor reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:22 PM
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I’m gonna need to see a pic of you and or a pic of these hot women who decided to sleep with you night 1 cause it ain’t adding up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:22 PM
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Show me one body positive male - I’ll wait. It’s all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:21 PM
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You like sports, you listen to music, and you play video games. Not trying to hate, but your uniqueness is off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:18 PM
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Men don’t accept it because forever they’ve been told the personality of a saint will win out. It ain’t true - this is controversy because it flies in the face of what media and society tells us about women. It shouldn’t be controversy. But instead of putting the blame and onus on men it should be placed on women for teaching little boys this bullshit falsehood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:16 PM
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TIL not wearing a suit means I dress like shit. Got it! Meanwhile basic white girl wears jeans, a top, and a bucket hat and she gets 2729393828 swipes. 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:14 PM
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Morality is abject not a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 11:06 PM
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But then how will they peddle the narrative that they’ve been oppressed since hallowed antiquity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:37 PM
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This is complete bullshit. The problem isn’t I can’t maintain a relationship - it’s I can’t get into one. None of what you listed falls into the problem of access.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:33 PM
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The prefer single part will come back to bite them in the ass later in life for the ones who actually go through with it. It’s just not prevalent enough right now because the im happy all alone tee hee crowd is fairly new.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:26 PM
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I’ll weigh in - I tried therapy multiple times. If it as helpful for you awesome. But I’ve spoken to more therapists than I care to admit and almost all of them were terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:31 AM
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I totally agree with you. If you don't know how to take no for an answer - that's a problem. But I think how often that happens is entirely overblown especially in today's climate. I have a similar situation right now as a leader in my current workplace. The allegation is, so and so said I looked nice one day and it resulted in me being uncomfortable. That's it - what am I supposed to do with that? I'd be thrilled if somebody, anybody said that to me. And for the record, I did take it to HR beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:14 PM
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Not sure I agree #6 was a good thing. I see a lot of advice from people who struggle with OLD being to go approach and meet someone in person via cold approach or shared activity. In today's climate, for one reason or another - most likely being how attractive the guy is this can and does morph into social media shaming with the ever presence of camera phones. I've seen numerous videos of guys at the gym minding their own business while a woman films their set happen to glance over and before yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:05 PM
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On an individual level - depending on how bad you want something anything in the relationship/dating department to put in the effort on self improvement. I simultaneously like and hate this answer because it’s an inequality. If you’re a woman struggling there’s a lot less further to go on the road than a man and most of this is based on physical appearance. Yes there are people who need to learn how to interact with other people but this sub makes it seem like it’s 50% or more of men when it’s p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:49 PM
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This is a start. I agree that on the whole women trailed men in a lot of ways but that’s over and done with now and has been for some time but I feel like the female gender continues to beat this drum now at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:56 AM
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The amount of effort it takes for you to be desirable versus a man is incomparably small. The video games and hanging with their friends improve their mental well being and social acceptance. Interacting with women makes them sad and miserable. Which of these would a rational person choose and what are you bringing to the table other than your gender that is worth the effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:48 AM
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Physical standards warped by social media to unrealistically high bars. Comparatively speaking men must put in orders of magnitude more effort to achieve a fraction of the success women do when dating for just existing Other forms of entertainment and ways to spend time the most accessible and low cost in the history of history Compounding self esteem and mental health issues of constant rejection Socioeconomic issues Social, professional, and even legal risk faced by men for expressing interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:45 AM
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Downvote all ya like - one of the likely evolutions of the current paradigm is a lot of loneliness and at least social outcasting again. It’s already started to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:39 PM
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At what point in the last century did someone hold a gun to a woman’s head and say you must get married? I’ll wait. Let’s stop peddling this narrative. Women were always selective, but SM has raised their perceived value and the requirements for a mate to unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:59 PM
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But these women grew up in the phone connected age and what you’re describing around looks is exactly the problem. All the other stuff you listed as important and level the playing field don’t matter unless he’s conventionally attractive or you find the unicorn who truly understands that SM is bs. This is even more exacerbated by the entitlement and false self belief that many of these women see themselves as 9s and 10s in every facet when it just ain’t so. You ask what they bring to the table? …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:56 PM
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I know a woman who just turned 60 and is single and bemoans her choices and life situation daily because being alone comes with a shit ton of problems that aren’t mimosas with your gal pals every weekend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:14 AM
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Nailed it, easy clap on that persona id
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:12 AM
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Money doesn’t matter at all any more. Neither does education. All that matters nowadays is aesthetic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:11 AM
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It’s a quick way in 2 seconds to gain some insight on who is on the other end. I’m gonna guess I’m not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:10 AM
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I’ve been told by many women they’ll happily take up cats which imo is total cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:09 AM
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No … other things in your post history and your profile banner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:07 AM
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MyFitnessPal. Nope made a post a while back somewhere with all my stats. But I too am in SoCal and it’s a brutal market
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:07 AM
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My gut instinct reply would get me banned … But if I had to guess MAGA?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:05 AM
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Safety is an offshoot of choice. Also - you’re now assessing every guy as a potential threat? Jesus Christ that must be a terrible way to walk through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:04 AM
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I think this is good advice. Of all the things I’ve read from bisexual women dating women is as big a pain in the ass to them as it is to men. Comforting really
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:59 AM
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I don’t think it’s ever over for anyway - but each person has to ask themselves if the effort is worth the end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:58 AM
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I know I had to make sure it was the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:55 AM
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If we’re lucky the end result is they check out and go about their lives. If we’re not lucky? This will lead to more violence with devastating consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:53 AM
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This has been my experience as a guy in his 30s. It’s the Nash principle - nothing too high nothing too low. But even the middle of the belle curve is acting like the women you say are in the scrap heap a decade later
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:52 AM
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What the fuck? How many women out there have IRL Instagram baddy gym bodies? I gym bro harder than chad, diet harder than chad, have the MFP and Apple Watch stats to show it, make well into 6 figures, have friends and am well liked at the office. None. Of. This. Matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:50 AM
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At least you’re indirectly admitting that women operate on a far shallower plane than men. I don’t know - being an okay guy who treated a woman right but wasn’t Brad Pitt looking used to be considered a W. Now look at this shit. Just Jesus, some of y’all are happy to be some hawt guys live cum dumpster. This is why pill ideology exists now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:44 AM
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The issue is this advice comes from a place of privilege. A decade ago I would have agreed. But even the 5% chance some tik tok thot is going to record and humiliate me for approaching her - or label me a creep on the internet for everyone to see is enough to stop me from cold approaching in person because I know I’m average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:41 AM
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Concluding the juice isn’t worth the squeeze when you put it this way is a logical conclusion that many media outlets this website included are not fond of. I wonder why. If a job told you you had to work twice as hard for half the pay the next reaction is pretty easy to deduce. Have the same thought in dating and you’re vilified.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:38 AM
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Good logic until the part where you posit they’re teaching the next generation to do better. They’re not. What I suspect will happen as divorce rates rise is that relationships will continue to decline and marriage will be far less common. We’ve hit the fast track to generations of thot activity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:36 AM
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How difficult is it to understand a situation where a population has little to no choice in a matter? It’s not. The down the middle people are gaslighting yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:32 AM
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Both sides have issues - but one is a prisoner of choice and one is a prisoner of lack of choice. In anything in the history of the planet you want to be the side with choice. To continually play this middle line of oh the challenges are unique and different and everyone is having a hard time is bullshit. Picking is a lot less of a challenge then having to take what you’re given.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:31 AM
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I don’t think dating was ever “fair”. However, if you’re going to argue that in the 20th century the advantage was swung in the direction of men because women were pressured to get married - then the statement that dating has swung back the other direction in favor of women is true. If you fail to see this I have nothing for you. Nobody is saying women shouldn’t be given the opportunities they’re being given now professionally, socially, etc and etc. However - OLD, social media, Neo feminism to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:27 AM
2

Sure but how many women come out and are like my N count is X ? Zero. The answer is zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:31 AM
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He doesn’t feel wronged because she had sex before him. Out of high school that’s an expectation. He feels wronged because he had to wait a month for a kiss, 3 for sex, and it’s vanilla sex. She represented herself differently and then he finds out in the recent past she had a threesome with some random at a frat party. It had zero to do ownership, toxic ideas around sex, etc. get off your incorrect horse. It has to do with equal treatment and what not receiving it signals to a man. He’s not as …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:27 AM
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The number of people who can’t tell this is a hypothetical troll post based on the other thread - is - wait no it isn’t - internet full of morons. As said prior - changing behavior doesn’t matter. But if any of your current partners finds out about your past and isn’t okay with it they’re not femcels, not unenlightened, bigots, misogynists, or insecure for it. They’re allowed to have boundaries and respect those boundaries without criticism by the PPD peanut gallery. Nice try though. The gotcha …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:43 AM
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This is the issue in a nutshell. I take it you’re from europe u/madadepp . Here in America we just assume she’s high n count now so this behavior has become unacceptable and finding out concretely is a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:33 AM
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This is common female rhetoric. Also - everyone is allowed to change preferences, but nobody is owed remaining in a relationship when learning things about someone’s past they’re not comfortable with. That’s not being an incel- that’s having boundaries and self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:23 AM
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Of course some idiot awarded this post. Do you know what incel means? What part of the guy in OP post is an incel? We have vanilla sex once a month and i had to wait 3 to get any and I just found out my gf had a threesome with her friend in a ONS likely 2 years ago and if I’m not accepting of this I’m an incel? 🤣🤣🤡🤡 Disagree with women or feminist world view, have any expectations, standards, morals, etc. you’re an incel if you’re a man. The white knighting and mental gymnastics of some of you p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:20 AM
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At this point any time someone uses the word incel it’s the clear indicator they don’t have any actual rebuttal and the conversation is over cause you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:15 AM
0

Imagine the inverse of these mental gymnastics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:14 AM
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Gaslighting means attempting to make someone believe or perceive something that isn’t true. They both invalidated his feelings AND gaslighted him that it shouldn’t be considered a big deal. It’s just her past bro…. And she’s 24 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:11 AM
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You’re expecting the truth to such questions lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:08 AM
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Like with sex you could make the case I guess for a wait - but holy shit even a kiss took a month? No. Out. She’s not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:07 AM
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She’s 24….. this literally happened two seconds ago in their life. What change?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:03 AM
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Especially the ones who claim reform
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:02 AM
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This must be your first day on the internet. Go look up any tinder experiment by any woman and show me the one where she isn’t at 99+ matches within an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:02 PM
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Guys who expect a porn star woman as a standard are as dumb as the women who expect the three 6 standard in a man. And yeah - hypergamy wasn’t as prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:01 PM
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Beyond any doubt. You used to be able to walk into a bar, no phones with internet, no swiping. Hot people were still hot and had it easier. But the right personality and charm would go a long way. I think that’s all dead now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:06 AM
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Cause 70% or higher failure rate isn’t what anyone with two brain cells to rub together on anything from an odds perspective would think oh - this thing could have potential, especially with FWBs. This is like saying some small percent - pick a number - of marriages the two people started as friends for many years before being romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:00 AM
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Not to this extent. I don’t remember the job interviews, hypergamy, and other games that occur today up until about the early to mid 2010s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:51 AM
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just what the fuck are you talking about? There needs to be a middle ground or oops birth rates decline, you eventually have more inbreeding, mass loneliness, mental health issues and worse. Capitalism in its extreme do not function when competition has been eliminated and consolidated at the top. This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read and you’re a moron as is the habitual hot take artist who made the first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:49 AM
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Society still has trouble comprehending and accepting the level at which men are currently having negative experiences in the dating market. I simply refuse to believe it’s a lack of confidence and a shower. Negative experiences, particularly multiple in a row over time weigh on men and the expectation that they not only remain silent about it or put in a ton of effort to achieve happiness with another person is batshit insane to me. But here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:45 AM
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And yet we push programs along these lines which in concept I’m okay with, but the fact that most are a zero sum game I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:42 AM
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This is the worst time in my life time I’ve seen for dating. A lot of you youngins have no basis for comparison before the rise of apps and social media and for that, I feel deeply sorry for you all. Romance is all but dead. Finding a partner is all but dead. Everything is highly transactional if you end up on the fortunate end and finding a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:38 AM
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1/3 isn’t exactly great success or an indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:33 AM
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It is absolutely not different for average girls. Even “ugly” girls have it leaps and bounds easier than average or ugly men. Let’s stop the cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:32 AM
2

Emma Watson is a goddess and Kristen Stewart is eh no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:43 PM
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She’s not attractive though. Riri has a weird looking face to me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:42 PM
1

Do you not know how to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:16 PM
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That part of my post was sarcasm. If there was intuition these type of posts wouldn’t be so common
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 05:59 PM
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Bro do you know how tilted the THOTs/emotionally open women ratio is these days? Emotionally vulnerability is seen as needy. Go read any of the dating app subs for proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:22 PM
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How is this not relevant to the problem at hand when women are the choosers? You choose poorly - it’s entirely your fault. I invest in a stock, I picked it. Four weeks later, it’s worth 10% of its value. Guess who is blamed? Me. Nobody else, not some shadow entity, not every person on the street. Me. You want to have your cake and eat it too and that’s just not gonna happen. Use some of your women intuition to not pick losers and abusers but frankly you’re incapable because tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:20 PM
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No matter what happens it’s somebody else’s fault and society is slowly but surely reacting to this ridiculous line of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:16 PM
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What are you talking about? Divorce has always happened in my life time. And unpopular opinion - it should be taboo and looked down on. You made a serious commitment to get married legally and religiously if that’s your thing, not to make it Facebook/Instagram official. Women are making marriage almost on par value wise as a relationship. Great work!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:11 PM
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It’s debated because when you lay it out in that way it makes women look incredibly shallow and bad. They don’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:09 PM
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Okay - by this logic women should stop dating men entirely. OP you’re dog whistling the men are worthless trope and just lost all ground. This is some FDS bullshit and can fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:09 PM
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When men ask women to own some responsibility for basically anything today it’s misogyny. When the inverse happens it’s just called reality, get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:03 PM
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Everything cannot be about holding men accountable when you’re the one in control of the environment. Women have the power to decide who they do and do not date, have sex with, and get into relationships with. You don’t get to make the rules then blame the players for your own failings. I’d encourage you to give the average nice man a shot but I’ll get some bullshit about standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:00 PM
5

And she stayed with him ….. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:57 PM
5

Ok that I agree with. You’re wasting your own time and playing yourself by sticking around in such a situation. Even though a man must be ready to be painted as the bad guy for cutting ties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:28 PM
2

Larping most likely
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:12 PM
7

I think you’re right on the first half. On the second half why is it a man’s fault and a man’s loss? Women don’t owe men attraction and in the same token men don’t owe women friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 07:09 PM
2

I have nothing else to add but +1 the barrier as binary and attraction as the heaviest weighted of the attributes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:00 PM
4

I have advanced social skills - more than the average bear as I have to for work and TRP has nothing to do with being socially inept. Plenty of normal men are struggling while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:45 AM
5

The social inept theory is a corner case at best. PPD needs to stop jumping to “oh you must be a socially inept autist who never showers”. It’s mostly normal average every day men who are being left out of todays vapid dating market. So yes - TRP and other ideologies fill in the why when “there’s somebody out there for you” “just be confident bro!” “Hygiene” don’t add up. I love that data from scientific studies that back this up over dating preferences from women regarding men are pseudoscience…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:44 AM
7

Some super attractive guys - same goes for women too - don’t need social skills because society treats them differently just for being attractive so why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:34 AM
9

The margin for error is wider - stop kidding yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:32 AM
1

The fear is still present and rational - the level to which it’s made a thing like it is on PPD is not. It only takes one negative experience to paint approaching women in a different light.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:48 AM
1

Looks, charisma, and status are you getting you dates where the average man is not. Getting someone into bed is a whole other ball game and most men able to have soft harems won’t settle down until they reach peak boredom. What are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:11 AM
1

I’m sorry what? Men are reacting to the incentive structure women have pushed and created. Being a good person rarely/never comes up now because oops - women have made that not enough to get a man through the dating door. What men do see getting through the dating door is now mostly handsome. I’d argue that all the other stuff is just icing on the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:06 AM
6

it’s a lot of work and it isn’t. Taking quality photos and videos, editing them, has never been easier. It’s minimal effort
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:40 PM
2

Are there examples of this? I thought if somehow was shamed for this these days the shamer is generally labeled the bad guy/entity for not being open minded
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:47 AM
0

I don’t mean this sound to elitist - but in CA for successful people that’s a drop in the bucket
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:46 AM
16

The piece of the puzzle you’re missing is that being hot isn’t enough or even a requirement to run a successful online persona. There’s an infinite supply of hot women and men. It’s how engaging someone is with their followers and fans. Otherwise you just get a ton of transient interaction. This is social media management 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:42 AM
1

At this age between work and working out - I’m not sure where someone would find the time for activity groups
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:52 AM
1

It’s the weight I’m not really introverted when it comes to interacting with people
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:45 AM
1

39 and no
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:42 AM
0

I would absolutely do OF if I was a woman. Why not? Even a modicum of effort and you’re pulling in a lot of cash. Not anything beyond that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:22 PM
14

Even if it was captured after - i still think its a representative sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:10 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:41 PM
2

I can’t tell if I should take the compliment or be offended. But thank you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:11 PM
2

Chubby, overall I’d place myself at average. I don’t see significant difference in attraction between me and the average joe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:04 PM
3

Nah at my age it’s not that hard to find someone who isn’t into that. It’s always my physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:57 PM
1

CA … where’s this mythical place where these aren’t cons?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:32 PM
1

I think women operate a certain way and most aren’t above board about it. I also think their words and actions contradict one another a lot when it comes to dating. None of this means I hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:50 PM
42

Yep - this. If you pull this string far enough we’ll get to a point maybe where there will be trophy husbands. Being financially successful is no longer the predictor of success in the dating market it was in eras gone by.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:28 PM
2

I don’t have “internalized hate for women”. I’ve had a lot of experiences that have taken me from blue pill growing up to reluctantly red and even a bit beyond. I don’t think “women are children” or stupid etc etc. I’m always friend guy. Or “you’re gonna make someone happy some day” guy. Or “you’re an amazing person I appreciate you” guy on and on and on. And yes before saving you you must not know how to escalate or express interest - yes I do and wind up getting turned down. The friend zone is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:09 PM
1

Us
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:51 AM
1

Expense don’t matter - thankfully. Just need the referral.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:09 AM
0

All the ones I’ve seen openly claim tech and as such I buy it. If they’re like I invest in RE and I’m 23 I’m like okay you’re full of shit - legos don’t count
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:03 AM
-1

Counter point: you’re on fucking reddit. A place a lot of computer nerds who work in IT visit. Do you people have any idea what even an intermediate skilled person in tech makes? It’s well into the six figures. I do not think the average person here is lying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:58 AM
1

And this is why I have begged my doctor for wegovy. I eat well, very low calorie for my size work out 2-2.5 hours a day and the weight loss is slow going. My metabolism is shit. I’ve struggled with weight my whole life. I don’t care at this point if it kills me or I grow a third arm, I want to be thin one more time in my life because that’s the only time people treated me as a human being. Nothing else about me - nothing - matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:54 AM
6

We’ve never been at a more shallow point in society’s history - ever. Hard data backs this up. Men value looks, but the bar for looks on men from women has never been higher
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:48 AM
1

Here’s an idea: be emotionally intelligent enough to choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:47 AM
3

Chubbyness
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:51 AM
2

I’m outgoing when with someone/people but it can exhaust me past a certain point and I need to recharge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:56 PM
1

Thank you !
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:21 PM
11

Okay my turn: Very over 6 feet tall - 6’5 Eastern European white I work out 6 days a week via lifting, cardio, and walking. I’m chubby but actively working on it. I’m more in shape than “in shape” people when it comes to pure exercise. My resting HR is in the 40s - that’s years of cardio for you. College/post college degrees Well into 6 figures income wise Well into 7 figures net worth wise Very generous with time and resources Very generous as a friend, love to listen, love to talk Love to give…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:06 PM
3

But it’s in both sexes. You know what I don’t remember in high school and college? Girls who were even the slightest bit chubby showing midriff in public. Now it’s normalized. The yas qween movement has won because men are too stupid to respond in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:58 PM
5

Because when a population competes for the same finite resource they all deem of the same value you can’t have everyone win. Instead of going for the next tier it looks like women are just opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:55 PM
1

But if he’s hot he’s worth a casual shag/shags. Just not bf material.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:45 PM
4

They’re a catch, but resources, education, success are the cherry on top. He has to be attractive first for any of the other stuff to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:44 PM
4

Yeah I don’t care who is getting the most attention. I only care I’m getting it from the girls I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:53 PM
8

There’s no world in which me nor a lot of the guys in my circle want the tatted up party girl so I have no clue what this thread is talking about. Plain janes, Stacey, and Becky get my attention. Tattoos especially sleeves or multicolored haired are a deal breaker for me appearance wise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:15 AM
5

Yes and therein lays the difference. Interpersonal confidence for the person whose had the shit kicked out of them their entire life isn’t a matter “just practice being more confident bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:54 AM
10

How the heck do you practice having confidence? That makes zero sense. That’s why it’s confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:04 AM
1

The entire premise is wrong and when you failed to present any solution to this problem you went into topics that have little to nothing to do with dating as solutions. Now I’m feeling like this was a posted by a pseudo intellectual. The chain effect isn’t one at the top cascading down like some trickle down economic theory onto the poors. That’s been there since forever - high SMV people have always congregated at the top. This predated the current dating issues of modern society and have zero …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:59 PM
1

Oh yah … Jay Gatsby I am not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:30 PM
2

Yeah … I don’t know, I have activities I enjoy. They’re pretty typical guy stuff but I wouldn’t look at my life from the outside and go wow look at me I’m exciting af!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:21 PM
1

The remainder - stop playing with semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:54 PM
5

Yeah I’m not sure what you expect here even by successful men. If you’re rich there’s a high probability your work is demanding and you’re very involved. So between work, trying to stay in shape, getting required rest, and then relaxing I don’t know what we’re getting at with this statement. I wear a mask and a cape at night and fight crime from my cave? Regular life is pretty boring day to day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:43 PM
0

Not being fat tilts the remainder of these. A man with all of these who is overweight or obese is cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:37 PM
-1

Yeah I’d think you’re a weirdo and probably not see you again if looks and hygiene are all you’re gonna talk about in the same way it would be weird to go on a first date and say I need a woman who likes this and this and this. It’d be a quick way to become a 50K upvoted story thread about disrespect on XX
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:35 PM
1

Nope wouldn’t care would gladly watch as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:32 PM
2

What you described in your first edit is how I feel a majority of men consume porn. The moment I cum I’m off with the rest of my day not giving it a second thought. Women who act like you’re Satan for watching porn have deep rooted insecurities they need to work out. Your takes are sane. I’d award you if I had them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:30 PM
1

Ya but watching porn isn’t rejecting a partner. If partner was I don’t have was here to have sex given the choice of porn or partner im choosing partner every time. Why am I a creep for doing so when my imaginary gf isn’t here? Also - what if the porn is of my partner like she sent me nudes is that also now wrong? It’s porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:28 PM
0

This wreaks of bitterness from prior bad experiences with men. Do what you gotta do - but the things that led you here were choosing the wrong men - hate to say this, most likely chads. There are plenty of men who want the same things you say you let your guard down with another women for, but you probably passed on and rejected them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:18 PM
0

So let’s go with this is all correct - what are men who are neglected or unable to get a partner supposed to do? I watch porn. Not a fan of the aspects of the industry you’ve pointed out. Porn doesn’t make me find every day women I encounter less attractive, the two aren’t even associated to me. It definitely does nothing to impact how I view women on a personal level. I see the harm on an extreme scale but that could be said for anything on planet earth. I take issue with the premise of, men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:14 PM
-1

I hate hate hate I’m going to give this answer - but has something happened in your life to make you feel this way? Have you tried talking to someone about it? Are you only attracted to one person on planet earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:03 PM
6

I’m a man and feel the same way about the women actors in porn I watch. Are they hot most of the time? Sure. Do I feel some need to be in their presence physically? No - that’s pretty nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:01 PM
1

Stay in your cage … don’t think critically of the things around you /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:57 PM
1

Lol at the book you wrote. I ain’t readin that but I’m sure the journal of displacedbitzer on reddit is more credible than the science journals that are peer reviewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:37 PM
1

If I knew how to post gifs, michael scott pointing at you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:55 PM
1

Great story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:33 PM
1

Please tell me more without telling me you’ve never had to seriously diet a day in your life. Here’s some evidence: https://youtu.be/keBZfGAmq2Q And same argument - CICO etc. is a pretty basic approach but what goes in to the CO portion varies greatly person to person even when exercising. And since we’re here making claims about takes with no evidence - I guess I’ll take at your word that you’ve had to diet your whole life to be thin /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:25 AM
1

More like - if she finds you remotely romantically accessible to her. And cool story on the semantics argument. And no - it was either their job at a service place like a cafe or whatever or similar. One woman in her 60s once let me use her packing tape on a package so I guess you got me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:21 AM
1

They’re called supporting actors in 90% of your examples like super bad, got somewhere I can send a dictionary?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:21 AM
2

He wasn’t the lead actor in Superbad - the awkward skinny white kid was and neither was he in the baby sitter. He was a supporting actor. Are you sure you know what lead actor means? You named a bunch of tubby and normal sized actors. Out of those, the ones who have led anything are Siegel, Sandler, Rogen, and James. The only one of these who has serially led movies is Sandler who was thin until he turned 50. What are we talking about? Same deal with Candy and Farley. Never leads, always in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:18 AM
1

A relationship with a partner is basic human nature. That’s why. On a planet with billions of people or in your city with millions or your podunk town of thousands to not be able to find one compatible partner is soul crushing. TRP is good to get women and early in a relationship. It’s not for keeping one going long haul - shit would be exhausting and not nurturing. But to get women? Absolutely on point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:10 AM
0

Wow …. Vince Vaughn. I guess only Leo, the Hemsworths and prime Brad Pitt and Clooney should be allowed to lead. Show me the kevin smith and Jonah hill romantic comedy leads
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:04 AM
8

Lead …. Lead …. Not guy on the side. And TIL Jason Siegel is considered fat 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:59 AM
-6

Nowhere did I say do fat people not to need to take responsibility. But losing weight isn’t as straight forward as people who have been fit their whole life believe. Actually no I’m not, it’s in peer reviewed scientific literature and several body building YouTubers I watch also talk about it. What kind of argument is the malnourished ancestors one vs today? We’ve evolved past hunter gathering. or is that also pseudo science? You clearly haven’t been fat a day in your life or done any real resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:57 AM
17

They’ve replaced virgin with incel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:52 AM
3

There are nice women, but to unlock the niceness you need to be attractive. No women seem to be nice for niceness sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:49 AM
4

Let’s see - people don’t make eye contact with you in public - the moment you meet eyes they dart theirs away or down especially if it’s a woman. Interactions are held to as short as possible. Nobody chats you up or wants you approaching them for any reason whatsoever. Should you make the mistake of doing so women will label you creepy and men will laugh you off asap. If you’re sitting in a public place with multiple seats, everyone single one will fill in besides the one next to yours which wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:47 AM
4

Yep I hear that …. Work out, starve, rinse and repeat day in and day out. As I’ve gotten older it’s gotten harder to do and I’m not going to be able to do this forever so I asked my doctor for the compound V of help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:43 AM
4

I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum. If you lose the weight you won’t be invisible at that height. Keep up the good work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:31 AM
-1

Can you point me to these fat male leads in the last ten years?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:29 AM
2

There are just as many fat people who struggle to lose weight because of genetic or medical factors as there are the stereotypical person sitting at home and eating Cheetos all day who doesn’t know what the inside of a gym looks like. This line of thought has to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:27 AM
8

The fact that it’s come this far to even have the conversation having it evolve from being code for incel is enough to show that enough men feel it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:08 AM
5

Because no - not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:57 AM
5

The goal is to play your aces and kings now that you have them until you’re over it - just like women did in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:55 AM
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No see you don’t get to dictate what does and doesn’t happen. It goes beyond simple rejection. Not only did she reject you at her prime - she also went and gave her body to multiple other people during her fun phase and now wants to settle down with you the provider while you got maybe 1/20th the attention on a good day. In your 30s, there’s suddenly a lot of these women. The rational response now that it is his opportunity to return the favor and play the field because he’s dangling his provide…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:30 AM
24

You’re gonna be hated on for this - but wow I’ve never seen this out so well. Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:25 AM
9

Here’s the thing - women took the power from what I gather is nothing more than complaining in a public forum forever about “equality” and “freedom” not much different than this one and it landed it us here. Now when men go hey wait a minute - getting a mate isn’t supposed to be elden ring they get called incel and told to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:23 AM
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Only women children and dogs are loved unconditionally. -Chris Rock
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:15 AM
6

If men get off with a slap on the wrist - women 95/100 don’t see the court room. I’m not saying there aren’t men rapists but women and men are not punished the same for the same crime. Go look at the stats of female/male underage sexual abuse in schools. Male teachers are in jail and DOA. Female teacher abusers are not punished nearly as hard. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:03 AM
6

Until society does nobody will. Women get away with a lot when it comes to SA
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:32 PM
2

This is what the blue pill taught us growing up women would be like. You truly must be a gem - a lot of people in general no longer do or never subscribed to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:32 PM
1

It takes a ton of work and luck as an obese man. Can I ask where you are cause where I am an obese man is walking invisible at best
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:31 PM
1

Sucks don’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:52 PM
3

Here we go again. Every guy isn’t looking for Instagram baddie. Most want normal people. Swipe culture and OLD has inflated the market where now average women want only the best looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:33 AM
3

You’re a gem - in todays swipe culture maybe 1 of these guys would get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:30 AM
1

And this is one of the issues average/below average men have. Even obese women have no issues having an active dating life. Flip that on a man? Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:28 AM
0

So equality until it’s no - not like that? That’s stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:56 PM
3

I’d date and have dated an “average girl” . It’s all in the carry. If it’s all in the stomach not a fan. If it’s evenly distributed they are pretty hot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:25 AM
4

Now that I don’t buy. Men are far more forgiving in the looks department
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:15 AM
4

I have to say in my immediate vicinity that sounds about right 🤷🏻‍♂️ it’s not eww … really depends on how she carries it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:07 AM
11

So what’s good looking? The data says top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:05 PM
8

Because women do lack empathy. Having a choice in anything is never a bad thing and always better than the opposite of not having a choice whether that’s dating, professionally, etc. But men are told to shut up about not having the same choice women do in dating - or even a morsel of choice - and even now in this thread the position is “as a woman my dating life is hard because I have too many choices and need to learn how to weed out assholes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:35 PM
2

I can live with that to a degree even if there’s plenty of evidence that the moment a man becomes emotional vulnerable she sees him different and or loses interest. let’s not stick to pretext then and put genuinely kind up front in such sentences and go with attraction first and kind later. Women are attracted to men they’re attracted to and if he’s kind great - if not he still might be fun for a bit before you say bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:09 PM
2

Nothing is a monolith, but the evidence is the evidence. This sub loves to goal post move when their argument is sunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:00 PM
6

You first post boiled down to I have problems that come with having too many choices. Its the definition of privilege in the space in a thread asking why do women push back against the notion you have it harder for dating. Way to prove OPs point. Again - having options and having to decide sounds awful while your a lot of your male counterparts do not through no fault of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:59 PM
1

I’m not sparing you anything because I’m not referring to Fox or OAN but good try at moving the goal posts because you instantly assumed I’m a Republican. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:54 PM
1

O K? What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:46 PM
1

Life isn’t that complex and there are certain things which increase odds for success dramatically. If a man walks around with a im red pill sign around his neck sure I agree with you, he’s a sad cartoon of rp. But philosophically the tenants of rp work and are what women want both in explicitly statement and when you look in the wild more often than blue pill heart of gold ideology. Get in the gym, better yourself, and don’t get too attached or put women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:45 PM
1

Yeah the underlying assumptions are never happening
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:32 PM
1

That’s so asinine. The in bed room life experiences in those formative years are gate kept by literal children making childrens choices. You’re not gonna grow as a person and discovered your liked and dislikes in a partner by joining the rock climbing club. It’s not hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:24 PM
6

It’s a go to narrative from women and bp men. Join an activity bro and you’ll find someone!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:23 PM
1

Once again - proving red pill theory right. Is there also resentment when said 30s guy dates 20s something woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:16 PM
2

Experience invisibility the way most men do for a day and let me know what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:13 PM
1

Classic and true. Take my upvote
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:10 PM
5

The average man is absolutely pilled they just don’t know there’s a name for it. I’m even seeing it bleed into truly mainstream media. You’re a woman so a lot less likely to get an honest answer about their experiences but between men? It’s absolutely happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:07 PM
23

So you get to browse the buffet and pick the best dishes, sounds awful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:03 PM
1

Because women in this and day age despise the truth and generally seek any opportunity to continue to the play the victim despite having more opportunities in every facet of life than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:02 PM
2

Depends - how attractive am I in this hypothetical scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:55 AM
2

The distribution of what men find attractive follows a true normal distribution. The same just isn’t true of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:54 AM
1

Where does the red pill say this? The red pill explicitly says the common rules of life are wrong. Get as attractive as possible, dont be too available or nice because women lose interest with that, and don’t become too attached to any one woman because she’ll eventually find xyz reason to go with someone else. What you’re describing is the blue pill of your heart of gold and doing all the right things and being genuinely a good person will yield results which we know now is total horseshit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:53 AM
1

Tinder experiments with a hot guy who openly put he was an abuser, pedophile, rapist, etc etc had scores of women opening him…. All you need to know. If he’s hot nothing else matters - nothing. Shine any light on this and the response is REEEEEEEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:48 AM
2

The fact that any criticism of anything about women gets you labeled a misogynist, a creep, or an incel? They’re not immune - the reality is the female ego is infinitely more fragile than the male.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:47 AM
1

Both are equally boring, swiped left
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:45 AM
4

Nope - it’s evolved into comically transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:44 AM
2

Every time someone points out any part of the lunacy in womens dating tastes the new default comeback is “incel”. Welcome to 2022 and the woke feminist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:39 AM
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You clearly didn’t read my post. But someone who flies an FDS flag doesn’t leave a lot to expectation in on the level debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:21 PM
1

Actually - yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:19 PM
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This will be wildly unpopular hot take - if you’re overweight forget the lifting and concentrate on the cardio to get thin. And I never understood the height thing. Most women are like 5’2-5’7. In this regard though I’m well over 6 feet tall so never an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:15 PM
3

He’s not. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:12 PM
1

The wall absolutely exists. It’s up to your genetics and how well you take care of yourself both physically and emotionally if and when it comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:11 PM
0

But for women maturity and experience means I slept with a bunch of guys. It’s not the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:10 PM
0

Your 20s are about that for women. Increasingly not for most men. That’s the difference. Those men only start to get attention aka evolving standards when they meet a provider threshold in your late 20s/early 30s cause Brad from the Rugby team ended up working as a gym attendant and the guys that were paid no mind to are in the white collar jobs. So - as a rationale actor - guy says oh I’m attractive now? I’m going to date younger since they’re more at my experience level and more attractive. OR…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:08 PM
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Guys in their 40s can get 20 somethings. It’s not common, but it’s not rare. Do you have know how many women have daddy issues and prefer older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:01 PM
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The problem is while you rail against the 20 something guy doing 20 something year old hobbies, it takes time for men to build their life/career/get their shit together just like you. But - y’all don’t pick that guy at that age unless he’s “hawt”. Only later in life when he’s established to the nth degree does average guy get a shot and even then it’s becoming increasingly questionable. Guys doing the growing get penalized and no support while y’all wait at the finish line. For women? You simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:58 PM
1

Nope a woman just has to not be completely obese and even that bar is questionable. There’d be an even larger mental health crisis if men decided to apply womens level standards back on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:42 PM
1

Cool story
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:40 PM
1

By your own logic and other postings a 5.5 at best is actually a zero and if you’re not genetically predisposed to better you’re wasting your time. North east … shooting fish in a barrel. Come out west for the true challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:48 PM
2

You - that’s horrible advice to give anyone. “Yeah it sucks buts sorry sucks to be you”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:46 PM
1

For 90% of chads this is fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:32 PM
2

This is such a losers mentality. If a man had posted this you all would be killing him with “SeE uR nOt cOnFiDent” nobody is gonna want your negativity etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:31 PM
1

Bro you’re in Happy Valley - let’s calm down. Your average woman is plus sized and covered in body art. Post the Instagram mr male model.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:28 PM
1

This is the laziest fucking post I’ve read on here in a long time and am now dumber for having read it. Thanks OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:24 PM
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This blows my mind. That’s like saying I only want to watch someone do something and never try it myself as satisfying. How is that possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:41 PM
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This is something that is lost today. Everyone thinks they’re the victim. One side is allowed to voice their grievances and are celebrated for doing so in every aspect of society. Men doing the same? Suck it up or worse labeled incels for doing so. It’s gotta stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:49 PM
10

As Chris Rock says “Women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are only loved when they provide something.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:46 PM
59

This is literally the red pill boiled down to a nutshell. Nice work!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:09 PM
3

I complimented a woman once on looking nice who didn’t feel the compliment. I didn’t press or pursue because that’s weird. The next day her friend told me I was creepy - for telling her she looked nice. I’m not doubting women don’t get harassed a lot - I’m not doubting that men can be dangerous - but men get labeled creepy all the time for absolutely no reason and the only common factor is how interested she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:16 PM
2

Nobody is talking about stalking or rape. But generally every day traits like video games or anime (neither of which I’m into) are seen as quirky or cute on an attractive guy and neckbeardish on an unattractive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:44 PM
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In word and on the internet only, in real life the actions show the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:44 AM
1

Super model level - whatever that means these days
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:28 PM
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The ugly man is a creep, the handsome man is confident. It’s such a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:24 PM
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I look nothing any of them and I’m in that class.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:50 PM
1

How about think about this a bit earlier?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:50 PM
1

👌👌 cool story
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:42 AM
2

Neither did yours but let’s not call all women Ruth Chris (laughable) and all men McDonald’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:41 AM
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Not in this thread but I’ve found the general response to any laments to be OP is an incel. Yeah but here’s what’s happening. The $12 McDonald’s hamburger gets invited to a reservation at Ruth Chris. They might even make it the $15 appetizer. The hamburger thinks they’re getting steak, wine, sides, and desert. But right as the appetizer course ends they get dine and dashed. Repeatedly by different people. Supply and demand sure. But at the end of the day the Ruth Chris guy has an endless supply …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:21 AM
4

Reread my post - you just made my point for me. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:03 AM
1

Money, the answer you’re looking for is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:01 AM
1

I don’t see how this can be true and people simultaneously expect men who experience this to not be bitter about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:58 AM
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This is disingenuous and you know it. Even if it happens to a woman once every blue moon there are hundreds if not thousands of other prospects at your finger tips. A man has to put in serious effort to even get a morsel of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:55 AM
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This happens anyway in person. The only difference between a welcome advance and being labeled a creep is how attractive she finds you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:52 AM
0

Many many more times than it should for any rational person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:51 AM
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It’s not all but the percentage is growing because more and more men are realizing, wait a minute - you’re having this same experience too? The imbalance comes where your objective looksmatch has no interest in you because someone hawter is happy to pump and dump her. She is resentful this happens and she isn’t able to relationship hot guy and guys get resentful they never had a chance. I read a lot of well but real life …. Okay great. The fact remains these conversations and viewpoints are beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:49 AM
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You know the answers to your own questions, we all do. But society has deemed them unacceptable to speak out loud for risk of being cancelled. Look at any tinder experiment of average men vs. average or even below average to straight up morbidly obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:44 AM
1

I support this post
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:41 AM
1

Ah yes if he’s posing then I don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:39 PM
2

What they’ll say: omg it’s noooot Reality: women are by definition more shallow than men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:59 PM
1

There’s a huge difference between rape and telling someone you think they’re beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:55 PM
1

So what you’re saying is being 5’4 and ethnic aren’t severe crutches in western dating? Where can I get more of this bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:54 PM
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I don’t think it will discourage, I think every man will try see the results are not what they were hoping and quit trying. Or worse yet- I see some guys are perfectly happy to be orbiters and spend time with women who have no interest in them romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:50 PM
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Yeah I have zero sympathy for this post. Some of us would kill to be that person for one night. Sorry for your loss - work hard and be a better person in every dimension like the rest of us normies and uggos are told.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:51 PM
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I don’t think women are attracted to intelligence any more as long as the guy isn’t a total moron and even then if he’s hot enough he’ll get a pass even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:31 AM
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Personality doesn’t mean shit anymore because everything is “are you hawt” in a binary state. It used to not be this way. It used to be in person an average guy who up his SMV with wit, being funny etc. but now that same guy wouldn’t be given said opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:27 AM
1

Oh I take it you’re British. So guys who look like the west side massive from Ali G. But fat guys are still worse 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:25 AM
2

Can you find an anonymous pic on google of no style to share? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:57 PM
1

I can’t believe some of you people say he’s not a good looking man. Holy shit please post your pics if this man isn’t good looking. He’s not Brad Pitt, he doesn’t look like a douche, he looks like a regular guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:32 PM
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Can you please show me this parade of men who don’t have hygiene and style? What’s a “stylish” man look like? I see regular guys wearing clothes or street wear depending on age. I rarely see a man out in the wild and go what the fuck? This guys has no style.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:28 PM
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I’m with you - we aren’t at 11:59 on the doomsday clock but we’re getting there and there needs to be places to discuss these things in that don’t end in “you’re just a misogynist” “you have no friends” “you must be neurodivergent”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:07 AM
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Dating in todays age requires hotness. Social skills and all the other platitudes are totally secondary and in many cases don’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:02 AM
2

This is cap. An attractive woman on reddit is pretty rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:55 AM
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Clearly not happening but I want to see what the people who are having trouble versus not all look like. I think you’ll find when it comes to men the ones who have it easy live in large metros and are conventionally following rules 1 and 2. When it’s people saying they’re having a hard time it’s everybody else. The everybody else is a large majority of men. Which is crazy to me because I find the vast majority of women also average for one reason or another but the current standards of the avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:51 AM
1

This is sadly and regrettable facts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 03:06 AM
2

They’ll also add I want a nice guy but repeat the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:39 PM
1

There aren’t that many tall, muscular, large cock, Fortune 500 CEOs in the general dating market and especially here on reddit. Most people by definition are average. Where things today are ridiculous is that - newsflash - in the same token neither are most women and yet these same average women will not give their equal the time of day. The only men I have zero sympathy for and I know a few who are average, gets matches on apps, but are waiting for an IG model that’s never gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:37 PM
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You’re right - it’s called real world results. You tell a woman you go to therapy? Turn off. You tell a woman you gym multiple times a week? Turn on. You seem to be in denial of these truths. Get your head out of the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:21 PM
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Consider this, like most men are average as are most women but the standards don’t match.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:40 AM
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Nobody is forcing you to read and reply to threads genius
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:37 AM
1

Imagine being so deluded that you think going to the gym consistently is easy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:36 AM
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This is why at some point the rubber band back to somewhat traditional dating I think will return. Being a slut party girl in your 20s and not having a partner later in life because of said life has negative consequences later in life for everybody. There is a happy medium where more men date their looks matched compatible personality woman and women don’t end up alone one day at 35/40 with no family but a bottle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:56 AM
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Again - you have a lot of hostility or a bad understanding of TRP. But you have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:37 PM
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I’m not fully red, I believe in the self improvement aspect and that most women are like that, but I’m not looking for plates. I’m not taking up anything for anyone until the very obvious double standards in the dating market are improved. In fact - I’d argue most men like me don’t want “plates” - they want a relationship with one woman. You sound bitter like someone you liked used you as a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:16 PM
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It’s so sad your first thought went to this. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:35 AM
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Yes - they’re called friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:31 AM
1

There’s definitely no world in which he wanted a relationship /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:27 AM
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Women don’t owe men sex and nor do men owe friendship after rejection - but holy shit the entitlement in this thread by some people is actually just run of the mill PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:21 AM
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God I wish takes like this forced the person to also post a picture of themselves so we could admire their model level appearance, rocket scientist intellect, and pleasant personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:19 AM
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But it snowballs. Dating is the ultimate social proof now. It’s the society that has been created by the current Gen and now that too many men are being left behind and it’s becoming spoken up about as an open problem - it’s still suddenly mens fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:39 PM
1

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:24 PM
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The bar is laughably high for men and equally laughably low for women. Dating apps have inflated the female ego. I know this last line will garner a lot of hate but it’s the truth. There are just as many average looking women as men, living average lives as men in every aspect, but dating apps have given them an overinflated sense of self worth because the apps allow them access to fuck the guys they would never run into on a daily basis. That becomes the bar and the average man can never compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:37 AM
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The reasons behind this are entirely obvious but highly unpopular and will drive the SJWs insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:34 AM
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Simply not true. But okay - there’s literally no outlet for men to ask for help in the era of the feminism resurgence
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:02 PM
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It’s not about pushing the Mano sphere or women and sex it’s about understating the causes behind the actions and helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:27 PM
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The difference is there’s zero main stream encouragement for it whether that’s at school, at work, or in social settings for men like there is for women. Allyship to women is seen as this huge virtue where the same for men is misogyny. Even though that’s incorrect. The you’re special message for women is literally everywhere. Where is the same for men? Can you imagine the optics in todays woke culture of a mens support system? Me neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:41 PM
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The exceptions that prove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:59 AM
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Imagine these two groups of young people. The first group is told they’re precious, unique, attractive, intelligent, valuable, and special. The second group is told they have a built in advantage and thus don’t need any of the support, encouragement, and building sense of self worth because its innate. When the first group struggles in any form there is an army of resources to help them. When the second group struggles they’re told to shut up and be better. This result is sad but entirely unsurp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:58 AM
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Couple of things: Agree that our society took so long to catch women up from the bottom of the gender disparity that we’ve now swung entirely too far the other direction. There’s nothing for men and if you ask you’re labeled a misogynist because the advantages for men are allegedly innate and built in and maybe that was true but it just ain’t so now. I don’t see how TRP or BP destroy men? It’s an outlet to vent and provides a framework of both reasons to what is happening when a male fails to ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:51 AM
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There’s no justification for the actions here, but everyone acting surprised on TV that this keeps happening when men are given no societal, mental, educational support of any kind are imo ridiculous. There are program after program aimed at womens educational and professional success, women are celebrated with body positivity no matter what they look like - none of these structures exist for men and they are left to fend for themselves. There’s no secret code here as to the underlying reasons a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:39 AM
3

I don’t know some people love circle jerk convos. If you don’t have looks you’re not getting through the door it’s a binary state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:10 PM
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This post is dumb. The incel and conservative idiots will say rp is hetero only but the rules apply the same
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:51 AM
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It’s non existent if she’s into you IE attractive and unscalable if she’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:47 AM
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Overweight and heavier women have partners abs get them with relative ease. I don’t recall overweight women bearing their stomachs in a halter top until the last few years. Media has driven women body acceptance and is part of the equation which has elevated their sense of self worth while keeping men the same. Every seen a body positive male Calvin Klein model? No you haven’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:44 AM
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Reshuffle looks to the top. I love these endless lists of ideals which almost make it seem like it’s a sliding scale when in fact it’s a binary scale of black and white. Looks first all else second
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:40 AM
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None of this shit matters, the only thing that matters to her are looks. All the other stuff is a bonus if he has them and if he doesn’t she’ll create a narrative where he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:35 AM
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And I’m a super model in mine
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:35 AM
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I must be the only autist who read this and thought all the things you’re putting effort into are your physical appearance. You invest in things that only benefit your physical appearance …. And bring nothing else to the table besides already having someone elses kid. So what besides a vagina do you bring to the table? YOU have to put this work in to get casual sex because no man worth their salt, and certainly nobody successful in STEM who is still single in your age demo wants to run the remot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:14 AM
2

It’s easy to make blanket bullshit statements online with no back up as long as it fits the desired narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:02 AM
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You claim you’re a man. Post your stats big timer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:40 PM
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Hop on any dating app as an average man and give it two weeks. Let me know how you do. Your posts are totally entitled and privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:35 PM
4

What was the point of this post? How is it ungrateful to want to what so many people have out there? All your points about real life are valid but they happen uniformly to everyone and finding a partner doesn’t. Get off your high horse, this was meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:34 PM
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This is describing what men go through at every age but when it’s women having to do this it fills them with rage and they consider it humiliating. Hypocrisy at its best
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:26 PM
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Stay strong sister. As the run of the mill advice that is given to men - have you tried going to the gym and joining social activities to better yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:06 PM
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It’s either that or be alone so I understand but the time commitment and mental wear just isn’t worth it. I see why a lot of men would go their own way after a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:02 PM
1

This sounds absolutely exhausting and not worth the pay off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:21 AM
3

Or showering. Like who the fuck are these guys who don’t bathe daily?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:20 AM
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If women went through 10% the level of rejection your average man does we’d have to create triple the mental health care infrastructure to support it. Fuck your privileged world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:29 PM
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It’s this, it’s totally this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:57 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. Being rewarded for behavior is one of the most primal animal instincts on earth. I see lots of big women with average to attractive to guys. The inverse is much rarer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:33 PM
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The issue is if you’re stuck the other way society at large shuns men but women are still solidly in the game
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 10:31 PM
1

Must be a terrible problem to have /s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:58 PM
1

This. But nobody hands anyone of either gender this courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:57 PM
2

Fat women have access to sex via OLD with ease so what’s the incentive to change? Same can’t be said for men for men have the incentive to become physically more attractive because an attractive and fit man is the only way to date on even medium mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:56 PM
2

Have you ever considered that assuming every man is a potential predator is also a social construct? I don’t see women walking around with signs on their back or necklaces that advertise their body count. Vetting is fine, coming at things from an antagonist worst case scenario assuming lens is everything that’s wrong with todays dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:20 PM
1

Exception. The odds of that happening are extremely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 07:16 PM
1

Every woman is a potential slut and whore and STD source. That’s how potential works. See how fucking ridiculous stating this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:52 PM
1

You just circled back to exactly what I’m saying. There’s still a floor and below the floor no matter the heart of gold it won’t happen. I’m saying that the floor is now constantly rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:42 PM
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It’s hard to do that when online dating is a few pictures and words and cold approaching in todays society is riskier than any point in human history. In theory yes - there’s a ton more to dating. But never before has physical appearance been a larger barrier and it’s proportion of influence is only growing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:38 PM
3

Yeah a solid 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:09 PM
2

I’d argue if they believe they’ve achieved alpha status and aren’t getting matches they’re lying to themselves over having achieved. Anyone objectively checking all the TRP boxes is playing the dating game on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:54 PM
1

Show me where TRP says this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:53 PM
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I think this is great but fails because there’s a floor level threshold and any guy below that for a given woman is never given the time of day and as we go forward because of what OP identifies that floor is continually being raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:50 PM
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Speak for yourself my man, there’s plenty fulfilling about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:17 PM
1

What do you think would happen if the chivalry you experience even today suddenly stopped? That’s a average man’s experience every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:16 AM
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