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| 2 | Can a guy who's over 6ft be an incel?Just orgemaxx, bro! | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/11/23 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Just a little experiment I did on myself.Again, I'm not like super horrendous looking or anything although I can make myself look that way in photos by doing exaggerated facial expressions as I brought up in the post. If I was truly a 2/10 or lower than that, my face would be have to be really bad. Like so bad, that not even plastic surgery can fix. In fact, I had someone in a different subreddit tell me that even with surgery he still remained at like a 2/10 in the face. I'd likely have a crooked nose, missing or very messed up teeth,… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 08:46 PM |
| 1 | Just a little experiment I did on myself.Yeah, I guess you're right! Average and below average looking guys shouldn't be doing so. At least, I had the "confidence" of showing my face on here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Just a little experiment I did on myself.It's not only women, but society in general. Like, I just want society as a whole to respect me as an individual. That's something I can only imagine! Mental health has been shitty since middle school. At that time, it was more so body image as my face looked alright then. I thought I was fat, and the issues got even worse in high school. A lot of people thought I was cool and such throughout hs in spite of my issues which I would hide behind a fake smile. My classmates voted for me as "most car… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Just a little experiment I did on myself.I understand what you are saying. I really could have had a chance at life (and not just relationships) if my eye area wasn't so bad and if my palate was a little wider. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.How tall are you? Like, are you abnormally short or something? | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Just a little experiment I did on myself.Again, what I did was just an experiment! I will admit that photos aren't everything! If only I knew how to drive and not have my mom or brother take me places. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Just a little experiment I did on myself.I don't go out, only because I don't have a car or a motorcycle. I wish I had either one just to go and see the world more. I mean, I've had some women smile at me here and there (probably fake, but they likely gave me neutral treatment nonetheless). The last few times were at the beach with my dad and at the movies with my brother and his girlfriend, both back in July. She isn't horrified by my appearance and I'm not like disfigured or anything. My jaw would show a little from the side when loo… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Just a little experiment I did on myself.My eyes looked slightly better at best but I do have a tired appearance. Then again, part of that is because of bad sleep patterns over the past few weeks. I still had that nct and UEE in them. One of those pics I took was angled up making the nct look more apparent in appearance. I'll probably post these three pics on my profile as proof. I also took other ones where I just exaggerated my face to make it look zombie or demon like in appearance. | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/11/23 03:42 AM |
| 1 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.I'll admit that lately I've been rather nitpicky about my appearance. Again, I'm not super ugly or anything. It's really my eye area that bothers me the most. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 07:16 PM |
| 2 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.Well said! I refer to bluepill as living in La La Land. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.Again, I would if I had enough money and knew how to drive. I do want to move out eventually, not gonna lie. I need to learn about paying bills on my own and such. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.I'm broke and don't know how to drive. I still live with my mother, which sounds strange I know. I mean, I don't care if someone decides to still with their parents in their 20s. That's their life, not mine! Of course, I did live with just my two older brothers for two and a half years before moving back in with my mom. This was long before I came across and learned about the color pill, incel, and looksmaxxing communities. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.Yeah, I guess you're right! They don't want to know the truth. They're stuck and have been lied to. They separated for the last time when I was 8 yrs old, but that's not why my life became a mess. The trouble started in middle school and it got worse in high school. Bad mental health is such a bitch. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.I don't talk to them about the issues pertaining to my looks because I wouldn't want them to get upset or something. I should've worded what I said better. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 06:53 AM |
| 4 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.Your mom's just being nice, man! That's only because she doesn't want to learn about the truth and who knows she probably never will. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Family is rather bluepilled, even my little sister.Don't get me wrong. They want the best for me. No shit! But at the same time, they aren't aware of any of this pill stuff. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/11/23 06:48 AM |
| 2 | Guess I'm really fucked then!I heard something about MSE or palate expanders. I'm not sure if they'll work though. I'm worried that I'll just look worse in the end. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Guess I'm really fucked then!I've been struggling with body dysmorphia since my early teens. Initially, it was because I thought I was fat. 20 onwards, it became body and face. I felt like a loser for not looking like a road junkie, as in believing that's the only physique a man should have. I've been obsessed with beauty standards and what not and given my face I don't fit any. Focus on what you can more easily control like weight, getting braces, or using a skin tint (check out fenty beauty) and not the shape of you eyes.… | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Guess I'm really fucked then!Yeah, but Internet stardom has been my dream since 10 yrs old. Yes, there are famous folks that aren't attractive and they still make a living with their lifestyle. I just think being better looking can be a little more advantageous in that regard. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Guess I'm really fucked then!I'm not sure! I wouldn't want my side profile to become recessed or anything. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 01:56 AM |
| 2 | Guess I'm really fucked then!Yeah, I actually found out recently when chewing some gum (not the hard or mastic kind, though). I looked into the bathroom mirror and saw that the gum got stuck to the roof of my mouth for a few seconds. That was when I found out how narrow my palate was. What's weird is that I have a decent side profile in regards to my jawline in spite of this flaw. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Guess I'm really fucked then!I'm only 5'6", but I've never been treated badly over my height which sounds strange I know. Then again, in my area people are generally a bit on the shorter side on average compared to other parts of Texas let alone the rest of the United States. I have an older brother that's the same height as I am and he has had a few girlfriends throughout his life. Actually, I think he looks shorter than me and potentially could be due to the fact that he might have herniated a disc from all the weightlift… | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:46 AM |
| 3 | Guess I'm really fucked then!I do have a decent side profile, like my jaw isn't so bad from the side. I guess that is what saves my face from being a 2 or lower. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/11/23 12:25 AM |
| 4 | Guess I'm really fucked then!My life is over! No one gives a fuck about me not even some of the men in my area that are shorter or uglier than me. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Short guys in publicIt also varies alot on location too. Yeah, where I live I'm as tall or almost as tall as men around me despite standing at 5'6". In fact, I'm actually heightmogged some men here and there. I'd feel like a giant standing next a 5'3" male. Being 6ft+ is big in my area. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 07:45 PM |
| 1 | I fucked up! I'm officially the biggest loser in the world!If anything, I'll just adopt! It'll be costly though! | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/23 12:25 AM |
| 1 | I fucked up! I'm officially the biggest loser in the world!That'll take a few years if anything. I will still remain alone after that because I fear my future children will be bad looking and get my horrid eyes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:29 PM |
| 1 | I fucked up! I'm officially the biggest loser in the world!I mean, I could have had a chance at life (not just dating) if my eye area wasn't so godawful. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:22 PM |
| 3 | I fucked up! I'm officially the biggest loser in the world!It was a mistake! I misread the question, but I knew I fucked up at the same time. Someone must've screenshotted what I wrote! I am done for! | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:18 PM |
| 0 | I fucked up! I'm officially the biggest loser in the world!I don't know, man! It's over! Life is not worth living no matter my physique. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 09:13 PM |
| 1 | I fucked up! I'm officially the biggest loser in the world!I do, actually! I'm skinny fat, but bulking up as a 5'6" male would be seen as compensating by the blackpill community. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 08:57 PM |
| 2 | My birth was a mistake!Yeah, I mean once again where I live there are men uglier than me and most are fatter than me yet they seem to have a happy life and caring family including kids of their own. No one in my family truly cares! Even if they say they do, I would think they're straight up lying. I'm may not be a guy with an extremely deformed face, but life isn't worth it for me. I could have easily been a 6 if my eye area wasn't fucked. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 06:36 PM |
| 1 | My birth was a mistake!I was never bullied for my looks growing up. I didn't have issues with how my face looked then, but I thought I was too fat (just when you thought only females would have this issue). At like 20 or so, my eyes started bulging out. Having expanded eye orbits is not a good thing. My jaw isn't too bad, but society doesn't care about your lower third if you have a fucked up eye area. Then again, no one judged me, made fun of me, or called the FBI on me over my eyes but my area is bluepilled to death… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | My birth was a mistake!you’re hyper fixated on the attractiveness of your eyes which seems unusual. You also admit your dad has your eyes but still attracted a wife anyway, so maybe it isn’t as bad as it seems. Well yeah, they look bad! As with my dad, they didn't look so bad when he was young, but they bulged out with age. Mine just happened way earlier than his (talk about agepill despite only being 20 when this happened). With the wife situation, I'm not really sure how things really are going between the two of th… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 03:52 AM |
| 0 | My birth was a mistake!I don't like my eyes, like at all! They weren't like this when I was younger, so fuck post puberty and losing some weight at 20 in an attempt to be "healthier" for giving me horrid eyes I guess. And when I talk about looks, I'm talking about life in general. I'll never get a job even at a dollar store or have enough money. I don't know if I should even go to church though there are people uglier than me that for sure go every Sunday. Then again, where I live it's pretty bluepilled as in not judg… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:32 AM |
| 1 | My birth was a mistake!Damn right, I am! They bulge out giving me a buggish appearance (aka not hunter eyes), they have a negative canthal tilt, a lot of upper eyelid exposure, dark under eye circles, and some assymmetry. I have large and rounded eye orbits, which aren't desirable on men. I have terrible facial harmony, so I guess I have no chance of getting a job or having a social life because of that. I've been hearing that the eyes are the most important part of the face. At least my lower third isn't fucked up fr… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 02:07 AM |
| 1 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.It was worth a listen! Thanks! | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/23 01:37 AM |
| 1 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.Yeah, like I think I could have been a high tier normie if it weren't for my horrid looking eyes. Makes me to kill myself just looking at my face in the mirror. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 10:03 PM |
| 1 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.I'm Mexican, but one with a lighter skin tone (not pale white though). I have family members with tan or brown skin. Mom told me that we're both part African because her father was part African, so I might have had ancestors from the Veracruz or Oaxaca region in Mexico. I live in the US state of Texas by the way in case you're wondering. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Debating on whether I should run away and rot, or go rogue with plastic surgery. Either way, I'm still a genetic dead end.He needs to blast test until he's lean/jacked and can grow a beard and then maybe surgery after that. I can grow a beard, but I fear that it might be more like a neckbeard and as a result I shave it. I'm really lost, because I'm lazy as fuck but at the same time wouldn't I be compensating due to my 5'6" height if I were to get jacked out of my mind? I might as well get surgery to remove my two lower ribs because of that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:29 AM |
| 1 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.Yeah, my mental health isn't the best. I've been having issues with it since my early teens and it got worse the older I got. As with facial harmony, I don't think it's good. But you're right about the hunter eye thing. It's the facial harmony that matters! | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 06:24 AM |
| 3 | Debating on whether I should run away and rot, or go rogue with plastic surgery. Either way, I'm still a genetic dead end.It doesn't hurt to try, I guess! While I won't end up a Chad or Gigachad, surgery could help me feel a little better about myself. I would need the money for it but that'll take time, like a few years if anything. First, I'll lose whatever body fat that needs to be lost. I'm in a tough situation where I'm skinny fat, so I need to do a little strength training and some cardio on top of that. Given my stats (5'6" and 150 ish lbs), I'll just consider doing recomp. I thought of running a marathon as… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Is it just me or are ethnicels funny as fuckIt's over for you! | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 02:48 AM |
| 2 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.I would have had a better chance at having a life if it weren't for my poor mental health and most importantly my subpar eye shape (aka not being either hunterlike or almond shaped). Where I live, there are men that are sub 5 and they have a life and are in relationships (of course, this doesn't dismiss the blackpill). I guess I must have really shitty mental health. It was already bad starting in my early teens and it got worse in high school. Come college, it escalated even further and now I'm… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 01:29 AM |
| 1 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.What I need is eternal suffering! Being sub 6 let alone sub 4 or sub 5 isn't worth it in today's world. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 01:07 AM |
| 2 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.I'll just rot away and die! I don't even think my family knows my struggles and would want to care because they're bluepilled to death. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/11/23 01:00 AM |
| 1 | I'm a genetic dead end, even if I don't look like one.I don't even think I deserve a therapist. I'm tired of this shit! I'm starting to have trust issues and I'm extremely terrified to talk to anyone about my issues. Might as well just run away from home and rot on the streets. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/11/23 11:21 PM |
| 1 | No Nut November CopeHe might have just taken after mom regarding height if anything. It's silly that he blames masturbating for his height. It doesn't make sense! What country are you guys from? Like in the Netherlands or somewhere in Europe? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:57 PM |
| 2 | No Nut November CopeWas his mother short or something? Or was she normal height but he still ended up short because of previous ancestors? Because height can recessive on either end. For instance, my older brother that is 31 next month is like 5'10½" and we share the same mom and dad. Mom is 5'0" and dad is 5'5". I know that isn't tall, but compared to mom and dad he is. Then again, there's this whole thing about Mexicans being shorter on average compared to whites and blacks. My family has a lot of shorter folks e… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 08:31 PM |
| 2 | No Nut November CopeThe whole thing about height and masturbation affecting it is asinine. Do guys really think that cumming is why they ended up way shorter in height than what they hoped to become? If a boy is predicted to be 5'10", he'll most likely grow to be 5'10" whether or not he masturbated and ejaculated on top of that. What really causes a decrease in final height is either having precocious puberty (say hitting puberty at 7 or 8 as a male) or untreated growth hormone deficiency problems. His expectation … | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 07:57 PM |
| 2 | No Nut November CopeI never believed in this whole NNN craze and Nofap in general. Do men really think that they'll end up like Superman and get girls with ease if they went weeks or months without choking the chicken? None of this fuckery matters if you're 3/10 before and you're still a 3/10 after. I understand porn addiction being a problem. I will admit that I struggle with that. It's been this way since I was 11 yrs old, because of the whole "puberty" thing. In my case, it's on and off! Like, I can go a few day… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/11/23 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Just realized that I commented on the shortguys sub.5'6", yeah I know that's short. It isn't abnormally short, but it's below average obviously. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/11/23 07:25 PM |
| 0 | Just realized that I commented on the shortguys sub.The guys there just laugh at the pain directly Yeah, that is likely! | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Just realized that I commented on the shortguys sub.I was being a bit out of hand for calling them that. I mean, I just didn't want to be associated with that sub. At least, not anymore! I'm not denying that being short (<5'8") is hard though because things are harder the shorter a man is no matter his looks. I've said a few times that in spite of my height, no one's given me shit for it. Also, I don't really like the idea of a man ropemaxxing because he's 5'3" or something. It's unfortunate for some of these men to go down that route. I mean, th… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 09:50 AM |
| 1 | To the fellow ugly guys: what physical features make y’all ugly?Not quite super ugly but I'm below average because of the following: Horrid eye area (UEE, buggish appearance, some scleral show, dark circles though not to an extreme, nct) Decent jaw side profile, but front view looks normie at best and not square in appearance Norwood 1.5 hair? Although no one seems to take notice where I live. Lower set cheekbones??? | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 03:07 AM |
| 1 | If done successfully, could plastic surgery, hair transplants, and fillers slow if not reverse the aging process in a person?It must be bad luck to the guys my age or a few years younger that already went through all the Norwood stages. I have a feeling that some folks are gonna cope by saying that they know a bald guy who's 20 or 21 that is in a relationship. Even if that was the case, that's only a very small number and there could be a chance that she is using him out of desperation or something. Or if he's not in a relationship but somehow hooks up with girls, it's likely out of desperation or the fact that they w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/10/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Yeah, it depends where you live. SE Asia is known for having shorter folks on average as well. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 07:49 PM |
| 1 | If done successfully, could plastic surgery, hair transplants, and fillers slow if not reverse the aging process in a person?There is a genetic factor, of course. Environmental factors also play a big role. Aging can be slowed like you said but no matter what, it will still happen. You can't escape it! | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 06:51 PM |
| 1 | If done successfully, could plastic surgery, hair transplants, and fillers slow if not reverse the aging process in a person?I'll just keep an eye on my hair over the next few years and maybe use minoxidil or finasteride. I'll wait till my early 30s before considering if balding is beyond Norwood 2 at that point. I get my hair cut every few months which could give the illusion of being at a NW 2. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 06:47 PM |
| 1 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Yeah, it's different where you live. Where I live, being over 6ft is big. I come from a mostly Hispanic/Latino population in South Texas in case you're wondering. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 06:40 PM |
| 1 | If done successfully, could plastic surgery, hair transplants, and fillers slow if not reverse the aging process in a person?I think sunlight exposure is good. Just don't overdo it! What I do personally when I'm out for long is wear a sleeveshirt or jacket. That's what I did going to the beach a few months back with my dad when he came down to visit. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 06:32 PM |
| 1 | <5’ 10” = (almost) guaranteed betabuxxer?Yeah, it's crazy! Maybe in the Netherlands, a man would be short at 5'8" or 5'9". | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 08:34 AM |
| 1 | If done successfully, could plastic surgery, hair transplants, and fillers slow if not reverse the aging process in a person?Oh okay! I guess you could say that if aging isn't showing on the outside, it will be showing on the inside. I have gastrointestinal distress, and I think it accelerates the aging processes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 10:53 PM |
| 1 | If done successfully, could plastic surgery, hair transplants, and fillers slow if not reverse the aging process in a person?How old do you have to be to get one? Like late 20s or early 30s minimum? | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 10:21 PM |
| 2 | If done successfully, could plastic surgery, hair transplants, and fillers slow if not reverse the aging process in a person?I should've worded it better! Obviously, you can't be a certain age again unless you had a time machine. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/10/23 10:05 PM |
| 2 | How tall is everyone here ? VoteYeah, I'm from a mostly Hispanic/Latino population in South Texas. I've walked past some men on a few occasions that are really short like 5'2" or 5'3" and I'm postive that they have a life (and perhaps wives and kids too). | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/10/23 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Without including height what is the minimum amount of looks needed to have normal dating lifeAnything over 6! 4s, 5s, and 6s might be able to date if they have money. Sub 4s are doomed, and no amount of height will save a man if he has a very subpar face. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/10/23 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Short guys are full of rage and excuses.The shortguys sub is a cesspool. I know it sounds funny coming from a 5'6" male, but I just can't with that sub. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/10/23 10:49 AM |
| 2 | How tall is everyone here ? Vote5'6", but no one's judged me harshly over my height. At least where I live, that is. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/10/23 10:44 AM |
| 1 | How you know it never began (childhood blackpill story)Oh okay! I thought you lived in the US or UK because the west is crazy. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/10/23 04:46 AM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.I mean, my issues go beyond women. I just want to be better respected by others in society. No one's ever vomited or had thoughts of vomiting over my looks though. It's mostly been neutral treatment in my case with some positive here and there. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 06:07 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.Yeah, you're right! I was quite out of hand with this. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Incel Expelled from School for Approaching WomenThe dude probably eats his namesake for breakfast sometimes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 05:42 AM |
| 1 | How you know it never began (childhood blackpill story)How was it like with girls at school dances if you went to any of them (homecoming, prom, etc.)? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 05:36 AM |
| 2 | Has bro reached Final stage of all Cope?Keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth! | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 05:31 AM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.I'm not sure! I have no experience regarding construction or any related area. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 05:22 AM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.I was talking about them helping me out in regards to plastic surgery, not getting a job. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/10/23 05:12 AM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.One thing I just realized is that I think I cheated in a way by taking my photos up close when they should have been further away. A lot of people in the howtolooksmaxx subreddit took them further away from their faces. My jawline perhaps isn't as good as I thought after all. Guess I'm truly fucked at life! | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Are you a SUBFIVE or not?Allow me to respond to these the best I can: Short- not abnormally short, but I'm indeed short at 5'6" yet no one calls me out on it where I live Ugly- below average only because of my eyes, but I wouldn't say downright ugly as my jaw isn't recessed, could easily be a 6 or 6.5/10 if my eye area was better Bald/balding- It might have started if anything (NW 1.5), but people tend to not notice, I don't know maybe I just have an unfortunate hairline type and also I get a haircut every few months Fa… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 09:49 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.I might just go work at the local dollar store or at Walmart. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 09:12 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.I've also never worked a day in my life. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 08:27 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.Depression is a bitch! However, I don't think it's bad to the point of needing medication daily. Body dysmorphia is a hell of a thing and it feeds into depression. Maybe plastic surgery will help. But you absolutely need to get therapy first and foremost because there is a real chance that your body dismorphia is rooted in a false image your depression gives you and not reality. I'll forever have issues with body dysmorphia even with plastic surgery. It's gonna be nearly impossible for me to und… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 08:11 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.I lack the desirable hunter or almond shaped eyes. There's too much upper eyelid exposure, they bulge a little, I have negative canthal tilt which isn't extreme but it's noticeable. I also have dark eye circles though part of that can be contributed to bad sleep patterns. It's hard to tell in some photos, but they're there. I would let the mirror be my guide for this situation. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 07:50 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.He should seek therapy/medication for his anxiety around driving and working, not for his sadness over not being loveable to women. My issues go far beyond love! Whenever I bring up looks and mental issues, I'm talking about life in general and not just romance (getting a job, respect or lack thereof by others, etc). I've had mental health issues since my early teens and I could have had a girlfriend in high school if I wanted to but I chose not to because of my awkwardness and the fact that I h… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 07:40 PM |
| 2 | I don't know what to do anymore.Yeah, I mean mental health is a big issue for me. Even when I was younger, I had mental health issues but high school was when it became worse even if I hid it behind a smile. My mental health issues started back in my early teens which was long before the "bug eyes" situation. With the allergies, I'm not sure if it's food allergies. It might be pet fur or mold in my case. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 07:27 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.Yeah, that is a major problem but it's not as bad as my eye area. I could have had a life if my eyes weren't so bad. Like, if I sent you a pic of my face with my eye area blacked out you would probably think I'm decent looking as in having decent bone structure but if you were to reveal them they would say otherwise. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 07:23 PM |
| 1 | I don't know what to do anymore.He's either attractive, or he's not. If he's not, there's very, very little he can do about it. My eye area is holding me back the most, even though my jawline isn't bad from what I've been told. Like, I can feel it from the side when I touch my face. A lot of folks in the looksmaxxing space would say that the eyes are the most important and given how bad they look I have no choice but to give myself a 4 or maximum 4½ out of 10. So below average basically, which is not enough but if I was say a … | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Incel Expelled from School for Approaching WomenMakes me wonder if he eats his namesake for breakfast sometimes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/10/23 12:21 PM |
| 1 | What is more brutal when failedSome guys are truly unfortunate! I had one guy in a different subreddit tell that me that even with plastic surgery it didn't help him out. His face is badly deformed, like he said he was a 2/10 before surgery and still a 2/10 after. He has had it rough since his childhood. I can't imagine myself being in his shoes if I was to be reborn. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 06:47 PM |
| 1 | What is more brutal when failedOne would have to find really good surgeons to fix whatever facial flaws they have. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/10/23 10:07 AM |
| 3 | What is more brutal when failedI mean, in my case it's not limited to just improving my chances in dating. I just want to have a good life, like hang out with friends and what not. Maybe be better respected as well though I don't think anyone's ever disrespected me at any point in my life. I think for me it's mostly been neutral treatment, with some positive here and there. And I've brought this up a few times, but where I live we don't judge that harshly on one's looks, height, and hair (or lack thereof). | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 09:10 AM |
| 2 | What is more brutal when failedYeah, it's unfortunate if he's really ugly because he would have no choice but to date his looksmatch assuming he does get into a relationship. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 09:00 AM |
| 2 | What is more brutal when failedIt would be hella brutal for a person that's below average looking. Imagine them starting at a 4/10 and they get surgery in an attempt to be better looking and it goes wrong. That could perhaps result in them dropping down a point or two. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 08:58 AM |
| 3 | What is more brutal when failedThey could be chubby chasers! I'm not sure why they would want to be with these women because deep down inside they could do better. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 08:54 AM |
| 3 | What is more brutal when failedIt was unfortunate for them to go overboard and ruin their looks. They obviously didn't need them! | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 08:49 AM |
| 3 | What is more brutal when failedSurgerymaxxing, for sure! The way I see it, it could go wrong in one of two ways: having a shitty surgeon, or the person going overboard to the point of ruining the face. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/10/23 08:47 AM |
| 7 | Race pill and JBW is BS.There is some truth to the race pill and JBW stuff, but I don't fully buy into it because good looking people can come from every race. | /r/AllPillDebate | 20/10/23 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Anyone here sub0?Get over here! | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/10/23 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Glasses or no glasses? Does it really matter if someone wears them?I think the frames on my glasses are thick. I posted some pics of myself in glasses but only the side view. I should have posted a front facing pic with my glasses on for a better view. | /r/AllPillDebate | 18/10/23 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Glasses or no glasses? Does it really matter if someone wears them?I never really thought of myself as being very ugly because I do have a decent jawline. I'm below average though because of my eye area but I want that fixed if I had the money. I feel like that's the only thing truly holding me back in wanting a life. Then again, where I live is mostly blue pilled as in no one judging too harshly on looks, height, or hair (or lack thereof). I think I'm treated like a normie usually though I've had people especially women smile at me here and there. If I had a c… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible for an ugly man to get a loving partner?This! Ugly men should stick to dating within their looksmatch (same applies to everyone else) unless he wants to go down the plastic surgery route to be better looking. The big problem with surgery is that it may not help him out if kids are in his future. They might just end up looking like his old self unless they get his wife's genes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 09:54 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible for an ugly man to get a loving partner?Maybe, if it's with his looksmatch. But it's a no when it comes to wanting a beautiful woman unless he has a lot of money (betabuxx) although she'll just use him and eventually leave him once he loses it all or something. With the first scenario, there will be times where even an ugly woman does not want to be in a relationship with her looksmatch (hence the use of the word "maybe" and not "yes"). There could be a third scenario where an ugly man gets with an ugly woman, but she will use him for… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Glasses or no glasses? Does it really matter if someone wears them?Yeah, the right frames are key! I'm not so sure if the ones I wear fit my face. The ones I wear currently are black. I have two other pairs that are red and blue as red and blue are among my favorite colors along with black. That might sound a bit ironic to have these as my favorite colors since the three most common pill colors brought up in this sub are the red pill, blue pill, and black pill. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 06:54 AM |
| 2 | Glasses or no glasses? Does it really matter if someone wears them?I mean, I thought about Lasik because I heard it helps with improving vision. I'm not entirely sure though since I've gotten used to wearing glasses for the past six and a half years or so. I did mention one of my brothers wearing glasses but having a life (and girlfriend) and what not. He even competed in pool tournaments for a while and was part of a pool team. I'm not sure if he still competes though because he now works as a teacher in San Antonio. Of course, he's no gigachad but no one has … | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Glasses or no glasses? Does it really matter if someone wears them?Yeah, like even with glasses on I look like I could be decent looking if it weren't for my subpar eye area and if my teeth were straight. | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/10/23 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Is mewing considered cope?I feel like my eye area is the #1 thing that's truly holding me back. Again with the jawline, it isn't bad! You might think I'm pushing it out in my photos or something or it's the angles but I assure you I'm not pushing it out. I can literally feel it whenever I touch my face especially when looking at a mirror. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Is mewing considered cope?I'd have to find the right surgeon for my eye troubles. I forgot to mention my eyebrow shape which has a negative tilt but my eyeball shape is what I'm more concerned about. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Is mewing considered cope?What would u say are ur worst features? My eye area! The eyes have a buggish appearance. The orbits are large, there is upper eyelid exposure and I have negative canthal tilt and the fact that my eyes are big makes the nct look worse than it is. I also have dark eye circles. My eyes give me that permanent rbf even if I am not trying to be angry in my photos. I think I lack the desirable high cheekbones as well because of all of what was mentioned about my eyes. I can't be a 2/10 or lower because… | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Is mewing considered cope?Is it really? I mean, I don't care about looking like a supermodel. I just want to look better that's all. I've never been bullied over my looks or made fun of over them when I was in school. Besides, my biggest issue is my horrid eye area. I give myself a 4/10 overall because of it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 02:55 AM |
| 2 | Is mewing considered cope?I might as well get plastic surgery on my entire face because I'm too fucking lazy to consider mewing. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/10/23 02:51 AM |
| 2 | Is mewing considered cope?Okay then! | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | Is mewing considered cope?If I had the money, I would. One of my cousins is married to a man that is rich. I don't know if it would be a wise idea to tell them that I want a genio or any other plastic surgery. It might be a few years for any surgeries or fillers if anything. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:57 PM |
| 0 | Is mewing considered cope?I mean, my chin isn't badly recessed or anything. I just want it to be slightly more prominent in appearance. I can feel my jawline whenever I touch my face. It looks like it wants to pop out. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Is mewing considered cope?The best answer by far! | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Is mewing considered cope?People think mewing is magic, but I don't think one could go from a 4/10 to a 7 or 8/10 just from fixing tongue posture alone. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Is mewing considered cope?I don't understand the hype for it and I also have mixed feelings about it. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:32 PM |
| 0 | Is mewing considered cope?I mean, my jaw like I said isn't that bad but I might consider a chin implant on top of canthoplasty and fat grafting to fix my upper eyelid exposure. I believe I have low cheekbones because my eyes make me look like I'm pissed off or something when I'm not. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Is mewing considered cope?I'm 24, so it's too late for me then. I need to work on my body posture though because I have a bit of a hard time trying to stand up and walk with good posture. With the walking, I would look down because I don't want to fall or trip on anything. This is especially true if I'm walking on grass as I don't want to step on dog/pet poop or fall into holes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 11:25 PM |
| 5 | Wheat Waffles just got EXPELLED from his University for Approaching WomenWW rated John a 3/10 which I thought was a bit harsh. John had a receding hairline but has since got that fixed. I'd honestly put him somewhere in the 4-5 out of 10 range though his height (6'4") does help him a little regarding SMV. Matt Cross from 33Secrets was also given a 3/10, but I think he would be in the 4-5 range like John. Apparently, having prey eyes or even the slightest nct would make you a sub 5 in WW's eyes. I do agree with Wheaty giving Todd Valentine a 3/10 though. The man looks… | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Does gaining muscle make that much of a difference if you’re average guy?Yeah, you're absolutely right! They think muscles are what get the girls when that is not true whatsoever. Just think about this for a second! What kinds of posters did girls have on their walls over 10 yrs ago? They would have posters of Justin Bieber and boy bands like One Direction and not posters of Arnie or Lou Ferrigno. Nowadays, it might be posters of male KPop idols that girls have on their walls. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 07:37 AM |
| 1 | subfives, do people harass you on the streets?Okay! | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Does gaining muscle make that much of a difference if you’re average guy?Yeah, like that's never been my goal in life. Short guys would look even shorter and be seen as tryhards with a bodybuilder physique. Then again, who am I to stop them from looking that way? At the same time, they should realize that if they are wanting to build big muscles they're only gonna attract other men and not the ladies. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Does gaining muscle make that much of a difference if you’re average guy?Honestly, I don't get the whole idea of all shorter guys needing to bulk up so much. Jeff Nippard is like 5'4" and although he doesn't appear to be a horrible looking guy he's indeed compensating because of his height. I look like I should bulk up even though 150 lbs is a decent weight for a 5'6" guy like myself. I get that BMI isn't the best tool for health management, but I don't think it should be demonized. | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 01:02 AM |
| 7 | subfives, do people harass you on the streets?Just be Danny Devito, bro! | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 12:42 AM |
| 1 | subfives, do people harass you on the streets?That's rough! Was he an older gentleman (over 40) or some man in his 20s that went bald early on? | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/10/23 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Any of you guys have a job or having thought about getting one?Do you manage to see a 5'2" balding Indian janitor by any chance? | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/10/23 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Any of you guys have a job or having thought about getting one?Okay! | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 08:17 PM |
| 1 | Any of you guys have a job or having thought about getting one?Ouch, sorry to hear that! | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Any of you guys have a job or having thought about getting one?Yeah, I mean there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that there are people out there saying you should move out on your own once you're out of high school. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Any of you guys have a job or having thought about getting one?I actually went to college for a time, but looking back there are times I wish I didn't. I didn't mind being around people, but for some of the classes it was mental torture for me. It's nothing like high school where you could just slack off and what not. That was basically the first true test of adulting for me. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Have I been living under a rock this entire time?I don't understand the defeatist attitude of people when it comes to the bp. Sure, you may not be an 8/10 but that doesn't mean to just give up on yourself. I don't like the idea of people saying you should ropemaxx if you're either a sub5 or normie. | /r/AllPillDebate | 08/10/23 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Question for the menIt sure is, bro! | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/10/23 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Question for the menSmoking is no bueno! | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/10/23 09:57 AM |
| 1 | Can surgerymaxxing salvage horrible genetics?It can help with changing your appearance for the better assuming all goes well. You might even feel a little more confident in your appearance. However, if you decide to have kids someday (not saying that you will) you should be aware that of the fact that you can't change the genetics you were given. For instance, if mom had rhinoplasty to change her nose shape then the kids might end up with the nose she once had unless they end up getting her husband's nose. I thought about getting surgery m… | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/10/23 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Can surgerymaxxing salvage horrible genetics?If your eye area is fucked and your eyes are too close together (narrow IPD) then no. I'm in a tough situation here as that's pretty much my weakest area. If you were to look at the pics I posted on my profile, I look like I could be a htn/decent looking guy if it weren't for my buggish eye area. I struggle with upper eyelid exposure, larger orbits and negative canthal tilt. The eye color doesn't bother me much because a man can be good (or at least above average) looking no matter his eye color… | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/10/23 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Have I been living under a rock this entire time?5'7" puts you in a tough spot especially if you live in a country or region where average height is taller for both genders. My mom and dad are 5ft and 5'5" respectively though with both of them being in their early 50s they're at the point now where they could possibly start shrinking. One of my older brothers got lucky and ended up in the 5'10-5'11" range. I don’t care about being over 6ft. I’d be fine at 5’10. Yeah, same! I never imagined myself being 6'5" especially with my parents' heights.… | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/10/23 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Have I been living under a rock this entire time?remained a manlet. How tall did you end up? Because I think it's worse the shorter a man is especially if he's abnormally short (below 5'5"). I'm 5'6", but where I live no one's given me shit over my height. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/10/23 04:02 AM |
| 5 | Have I been living under a rock this entire time?Yeah! If this pill stuff was more prevalent back then, I'd perhaps be given the normie treatment in middle school and early on in high school. Starting at 16, I became more or less sub 5 though no one treated me badly at the time. From 19 onwards I started to worry about my overall appearance (not just my weight). | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/10/23 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Have I been living under a rock this entire time?Interesting! I didn't know that! I was gone from Reddit for about eight months before returning earlier this year on January. Unless that sub got shutdown before I deleted my original account if it did get shutdown. | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/10/23 11:57 PM |
| 1 | How to tell which pill is truegiven you're not obese which is voluntary self sabotage This! As a man, you can't afford to be fat. The face fat can hide whatever bone definition is there. Of course, there are some men (and people in general) that are truly unlucky. Like, they can be a 3/10 in the face when fat and they can still be a 3/10 after the weight loss because their jawline could be recessed and they could have "creepy" eyes with severe negative canthal tilt and excess upper eyelid exposure. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 08:05 PM |
| 1 | How to tell which pill is trueThis! | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that drinking 3 red-bulls a day makes you strong and works out your heart?Don't trust YouTube or TikTok on stuff like that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | why are American so obeseAs a man, you can't afford to be fat. Being fat is unattractive as it hides whatever bone definition is underneath the face fat. If there's even anything to reveal, that is. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 05:29 AM |
| 1 | WHEAT WAFFLES claims he could date many women at once, but for 90 percent of guys it's hopelessWheaty says he's 5'10", which is a decent height. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 05:02 AM |
| 3 | WHEAT WAFFLES claims he could date many women at once, but for 90 percent of guys it's hopelessWheat Waffles: "If you don't have hunter eyes, you're automatically a sub 5." Jared Leto and Cillian Murphy: Are we a joke to you? | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 09:31 PM |
| 1 | What are your halos and failos (best and worst physical features)?upper eyelid exposure My eye area is my weakest area! The eyes are buggish in appearance, as in too much UEE, having larger orbits, scleral show, asymmetry, dark eye circles, and possible eye bags. At least my jaw isn't too bad! | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 07:52 PM |
| 1 | why are American so obeseOh wow! Don't do the NFL like that! lol | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Face rating and amiugly subs are cringe! Do you agree or disagree?This! They hate everyone and they hate themselves. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Face rating and amiugly subs are cringe! Do you agree or disagree?Women post on there to get attention! it gained popularity for supposedly "underrating" women It's ridiculous! A woman can have a 7/10 face, but it will get rated a 4 or 5. I mean, there are women that really are a 4 or 5 objectively. I'm not denying that! | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Face rating and amiugly subs are cringe! Do you agree or disagree?Yeah, like they see a pic of an objectively attractive (or at least a high tier normie) person but rate them down. It doesn't make sense! I wouldn't be surprised if the people commenting a lower rating are sub 4 in the face. Notice how I said sub 4 and not sub 5 because a 4/10 is at the bottom of the normie scale (4-6/10 range). Anything less than 4/10 is what I would consider an incel (or femcel if female) just from looks alone. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Face rating and amiugly subs are cringe! Do you agree or disagree?what pisses me off the most, is a lot of average or even above average people get rated as ugly because of social projection of super ugly delusional internet users. Yeah, like total Discord mod and neckbeard energy there. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/10/23 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Face rating and amiugly subs are cringe! Do you agree or disagree?Yeah, it's ridiculous! The mods oughta give off Discord mod or neckbeard energy. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 11:29 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to peak?It would be truly over if before double digits. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Face rating and amiugly subs are cringe! Do you agree or disagree?a bunch of beckies/stacies fishing for compliments or actually below average looking people being given the same bad advice like "not ugly, just smile more" or "just change your hairstyle" while completely overlooking glaring flaws like the OP being obese or in need of serious orthodontic work etc. Yeah, and with the Beckies and Stacies some of them have OF pages. Like, you could just go to their profiles and the links would be there. You don't even have to click on them! As with the ugly and be… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 11:17 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to peak?It must really suck for the people that peaked either in middle school or high school. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 09:35 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to peak?Yeah, that's what people would think. I was talking about peaking in terms of looks. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?Yeah, like some of them could perhaps be the epitome of the 13or30 subreddit if they post pics of themselves. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?So basically the old-young look? Looking old and young at the same time in case you're wondering. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/10/23 03:22 AM |
| 2 | What does it mean to peak?The eye surgery will have to wait a few years because I'm broke. I think they stick out because of bad sitting posture and also losing weight at one point by dieting and exercising. I don't know if I have a tumor or cyst that causes them to stick out. I do have IBS and allergies (sneezing), but I don't know if those play a part. I know I can't have Graves because my don't bulge out like crazy. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 11:50 PM |
| 2 | What does it mean to peak?Yeah, like I was worried that I'd be seen as a loser/outcast for being autistic. I mean, I guess I could consider myself one because I do have depression and anxiety and also because of my subpar eye area. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 11:17 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to peak?That's the only really bad thing about my face. Back in my early teens, they didn't stick out like they do now. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 09:58 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to peak?I don't use dating apps! Besides, I'm a sub 5 because of my atrocious eye area even though my jaw isn't recessed. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 09:54 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to peak?I guess I never peaked and I probably never will, not solely because of looks though. I am on the autism spectrum and apparently people will say that "it's over" or "it never began" for anyone that is on the autism spectrum whether they're ugly or not. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?I know guys who are my age in mid to late 20s and look like they're late 30s because of the hair loss. It's crazy how much that shit ages you. It's really crazy! Going bald when young is a recipe for disaster even without a change in facial attractiveness. It can easily have someone look 10-15 yrs older than their real age. It must also suck for the guys a few years younger than me (I'm 24) that are already bald or are at least a Norwood 3 on the balding scale if not fully bald. I can't imagine … | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?What do you mean exactly by deteriorating facial features? My eyes have a buggish appearance! I didn't have issues with my eyes back then like there wasn't as much bulging and I also didn't have excess eyelid exposure. Also no dark circles or eye bag deposits then. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?Yes, drinking and smoking as well as stress levels have a part in the aging department. I mean, it isn't rocket science! But aren't deteriorating facial features associated with aging as well? | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/23 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?Plus heavy wrinkles and folds on top of that. And of course, some people are just truly unlucky. Like, they can be 3/10 in the face when fat and still remain 3/10 after losing weight and getting a leaner body. I'm not saying they should avoid fat loss or staying active all together, but their faces will still be subpar in the end. What I'm saying is that there is more to eating better and exercising (though not to the extreme) that go beyond facial appearance. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?Yeah, I guess you're right! It's not all black and white! I heard that expanded eye orbits can play a part. I didn't have issues with my eye shape when I was younger. In high school, the issue with my eyes started but no one pointed me out on it and girls still thought I was cute then. But it became more worrisome for me around 19 or 20. I wonder if it's from all the bad sitting posture and the fact that I lost some weight at the time in an attempt to be healthier (I've since gained some of it b… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?I've never smoked or done drugs and rarely drank, so maybe that helped. These things are often associated with aging. Add chronic sleep deprivation and a high stress life to the mix and you're in for a bad time. Also don't forget being obese or way too thin especially if you're someone over 40 for the latter scenario. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 09:05 PM |
| 3 | Paradoxical "Chad" argumentsPeople aren't putting my looks down because of my height or my body, it's my face. Yeah, like if anything I'm more on the "face>height" side of things even though I do think that a 5'2" male with a 8/10 face will have it harder than a 6'0" normie (5/10 face) male. Not just in dating, but life in general. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Do all ugly people look far beyond their actual age (10+ years)?I'm a male and I mostly have issues with my eye area (buggish appearance due to nct, upper eyelid exposure, dark circles, eye bags, being feminine looking) but my jawline doesn't look horrifying or deformed in any way. My nose looks a little big, but I don't think it's too bad to consider surgery though. I hit puberty at around 10 yrs old, but I'm not sure how relevant that is though. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?don't do jaw exercises they will fuck you up I don't get the hype surrounding these exercises. I'm 24, so I'm far past puberty to consider eating hard to chew foods to improve my face. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?I'm gonna have to find a job first. Probably Walmart or since I live in Texas, I might consider working at HEB. Not sure if I want to work at McDonald's or any fast food place because it would be too tempting for me if you know what I mean. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?I should consider an appointment for that in the future. I don't think it would be wise to send you a picture of my teeth because that would be weird and I don't think you would like that. Anyways, it sucks to say I don't have enough money, never worked a day in my life, and I don't know how to drive. Also, I still live with my mom despite being 24. I know you're probably thinking how sad it must be for me to still live with either parent in my 20s. I mean, I did live with just my two older brot… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?I've never worn braces in my life. How long would you recommend me to wear braces for to see if has an affect on my teeth assuming I do consider getting them? I might consider Invisalign if the braces don't work. Or maybe I might just skip the braces altogether and go with the Invisalign. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 07:44 AM |
| 2 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?My jawline must be impressive for someone that mouth breathed quite a bit earlier in his life and also for not having good tongue posture. I guess you could say that I could've had an even better jawline if I nose breathed from the get go. I want to straighten my teeth and I heard that braces could probably help with that. Or do you think they're not worth it? | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/10/23 07:23 AM |
| 2 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?I know I should obviously focus on the fat loss, but I was wondering if I can send you pics of my face for proof of what I'm talking about. I'll also send pics of me when I was younger for better comparison as well. If not, that's fine! | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/09/23 03:14 AM |
| 1 | One of the hardest pills if not the hardest pill to swallow, in spite of gender.noticed that people that already look good tend to age better Could I just get plastic surgery on my eyes then? They bulge out and I have upper eyelid exposure, nct, dark eye circles, and slight eye bag deposits giving them a buggish appearance. And I look very feminine because of them. I know I would be cheating the system with surgery, but my eyes were more almond shaped as a child and in middle school and there was not as much upper eyelid exposure back then. Early on in high school, my eyes … | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/09/23 01:54 AM |
| 2 | One of the hardest pills if not the hardest pill to swallow, in spite of gender.My great grandmother turns 87 before the end of the year and I'm hoping she makes it to be over 90 before she passes. Ideally, 95 before she passes! | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 11:51 PM |
| 1 | One of the hardest pills if not the hardest pill to swallow, in spite of gender.Has anyone lived to be 100 in your family? | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 11:39 PM |
| 4 | Another proof Face > HeightBeing super tall and hot would have an even greater effect. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 11:19 PM |
| -1 | One of the hardest pills if not the hardest pill to swallow, in spite of gender.Yeah, aging is something you can't escape but it can be slowed by taking care of yourself. My mom was skinny as a child and in her teen years, but now in her 50s she's overweight and has hypothyroidism. I think to myself on how much better she could have looked if she did take care of herself up to this point in her life. I don't think she looked bad when she was younger. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 11:13 PM |
| 0 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?Other than sweet potatoes and regular potatoes I'm not much of a vegetable fanatic. I'm not saying for anyone to avoid vegetables, but not everyone likes eating them and it's their choice not to eat them. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?Of course height is genetics! You can't change that! My mom is 5' and my dad is 5'5" though being in their early 50s they're at the point where they might start shrinking in height. Especially my dad because he is obese which makes you look shorter in height. I'm 5'6", but I have an older who got lucky and ended up around 5'10"-5'11". My dad has two more children (both younger than me) with a much younger woman slightly taller than him at 5'6" like myself. My half- brother is 15 and 5'9", but I … | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?Yeah, I know! From what I saw, some of the people were complaining and what not. The most laughable one to me was Steven Assanti. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:54 AM |
| 0 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?There is various diets out there and there is no one size fits all approach on what the best diet is. Some people do well with veganism! Others do well with eating Keto! | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Does diet have an effect on one's attractiveness?Yeah, I mean a bad diet can contribute to weight gain since it's hard to not overeat junk food. This is especially true if one is a food addict. Look no further than the people on My 600 lb Life. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | W*man blames men for choosing AI waifus over w*men who reject themNo problem! | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:35 AM |
| 1 | W*man blames men for choosing AI waifus over w*men who reject themIt was supposed to be a joke like the 5'2" balding Indian janitor one. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/09/23 02:29 AM |
| 0 | W*man blames men for choosing AI waifus over w*men who reject themI know a 5'3" balding Pakistani doctor who gets all the women. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?Yeah, like my eye area I believe is the only thing that's really killing my chances of being either an htn (6/10) or a 7/10. I could perhaps send pics comparing my eyes from when I was younger to now. As with my teeth, I could probably just get braces for them. As for wrinkles/folds, I could get fillers for that but I'll make sure not to go overboard with them. That will probably be another 10+ yrs before I consider them along with any hair transplants. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?There could always be that one person if I'm not careful which I've yet to come across and hopefully I never do. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?Yeah, you're right! I've been a lazy mf and I haven't been putting in the work. I'm what people call skinny fat. As in, having normal body weight but a moderate to high bfp like 20-25% body fat (5'6", 150 ish lbs for reference). I thought to myself that I'd be on the lower end of the range since I can already feel my jawline, but I have a bit of pudge in my gut area and in of course like you mentioned my face too though some of the face puffiness could possibly just be water retention. I don't c… | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 01:45 AM |
| 2 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?I guess I shouldn't worry that much then. I'll still think about it, but not stress too much over it 24/7. If I do manage to get to a healthy body fat percentage (say 12%) and if there are any flaws, then I'd consider doing so. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Basically, no one is above the law whether they're a 8/10 or a 3/10 in the face. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?What about people who get arrested for the same crimes they commit? The good looking people get better treatment for the crimes they commit than the bad looking people. Take two males for instance! They both get charged with drug trafficking. One has a 8/10 face and the other has a 3/10 face. The handsome guy would be given a second chance or only have a light sentence if he does go to prison. The ugly guy would get a harsher prison sentence and spend a very long time in prison if not the rest o… | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/09/23 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?Getting punched or kicked in the face and in the groin area too. Luckily, none of that has happened to me as of yet but I can only imagine if I lived outside of Texas or the southern part of the states or in your case the east coast as well. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 11:46 PM |
| 1 | It’s overEven my jaw and chin look better than his, but I'm still sub 5 (4/10) because of my abysmal eye area. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 11:41 PM |
| 0 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?The eyes are what bother me the most. I can already imagine getting beaten up by other people or having the cops called on me if I was in New York or California. I wish I could post pics comparing my younger self to now on this subreddit, but unfortunately I'm not allowed to. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?Yeah, I think I've had this issue since my early teen years but as I got a little bit older I believe it got a lot worse. Initially, it was because of me being fat/chubby and not much else but 19 onwards that turned into overall looks (face and body) especially with the rise of PEDs and such. While that's been an issue for decades, I think the later 2010s really got me thinking I'm not perfect because I'm not jacked out of my mind and abusing PEDs/steroids like Mr. Roidcel Doucette. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 08:53 PM |
| 3 | Am I being too obsessed with wanting to get surgery, hair transplants, botox and fillers?I guess you're right! I know I can't expect to look like a model with all of these things if done successfully. I just want to look better, that's all. No one's ever bullied me or beaten the shit out of me for my looks growing up and during college even though college was when I started having the "bug eye" problem. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 08:32 PM |
| 0 | Most young people are inkwells confirmed?I don't get why people want to make it a contest to see who kisses the earliest. I doubt that all of these folks are ugly (less than 4/10 face) or anything. I've never been kissed and it's not because I'm a 3/10 or lower, which I'm not because I have a jawline. It's because of my autism, which is apparently an inkwell trait but I don't hate on women or wish them any harm. In fact I wouldn't wish harm on anyone, not even on my worst enemy. I don't understand why people don't take volcels into con… | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Height isn't as important as it is claimedYeah, I absolutely agree with your first sentence. It's silly to say that the height differences between couples need to be astronomical. It's also silly to consider average height men as short. Your height seems like a decent height for a man. Not every man needs to be 6ft+ to attract women, but of course being way too short can be a problem no matter his looks. I guess you can say that it would be game over for a 5'1" man with a model face unless he goes to South America or Southeast Asia. Or … | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 05:37 AM |
| 1 | Height isn't as important as it is claimedYou need to be tall but not too tall What exactly defines too tall? Like taller than 6'5" or something? I'm just curious and wanted to know! | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 04:58 AM |
| 3 | Height isn't as important as it is claimedheight affects much more than your ability to get laid. A great example would be the workforce. A 5'4" male is gonna earn less money than a 6ft male even if they work the same career. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Creepy = sub5 or autismGuess I'm fucked then, though no one's ever beaten the shit out of me and gave me black eyes in school or anywhere out in public over my ASD. | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/09/23 01:13 AM |
| 2 | The mirror is the only one who is completely honest about you being desired romanticallyYeah, like I look at myself in the mirror and my eyes give off that permanent resting bitch face look even when I smile or at least have a neutral expression. The mirror can either be your friend or foe. For sub 5s and even more so sub 4s, it's obvious as to which one the mirror is. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?Yeah, overboard is the keyword here. Of course, there could still be a small chance that even just one or two surgeries could go wrong and the individual's face ends up looking way worse. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?It was a nice read! The treatment when OP went from not good looking to good looking is a vast difference. Even when he tried talking to other people, they would turn him down before the surgeries but now it's like they want to be his friend or at least communicate with him. It must have been hard for him growing up due to his ASD and a result of it got bullied and beaten up to the point where his face got deformed, especially when he was set on fire. I'm on the autism spectrum myself, but lucki… | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?Just like the "Botched" people! Or even someone like Madonna! She was beautiful back then, but the amount of plastic surgery she got done didn't do her well. Or maybe it was one surgery she had that went wrong. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?I'm broke! I wonder how I could get the money if I don't have a job? | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?I guess I must be out of luck then even if successful with the surgery. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?My jaw isn't recessed, but the eyes never lie. I wonder if bad sitting posture has a part to this because I believe it does. | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Is plastic surgery worth it for sub 5 individuals? Maybe not just for dating, but life in general?My eyes don't bulge out like his, but it obviously isn't a good look. I didn't have this issue when I was younger or if I did it wasn't as noticeable or bad compared to now. All of the bad sitting posture must have caught up to me and my body couldn't take it anymore. It was like, "That's it, I'm making your eyes stick out." | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/09/23 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Which matters more?This can be a little tricky in some scenarios because there can 6ft guys with a sub 5 face and 5'4" guys with a handsome face. I do think face>height if I had to choose unless it's the extremes and what not. For instance, if a guy is 5ft tall with a 8/10 face, or a guy is 6'8" with a 3/10 face. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/09/23 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Monthly Reminder: Women can have just about any guy they want (at least once).Aren't most incels like bad looking? I've always assumed they were! Like, I'm talking about them looking a lot worse than myself. | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/09/23 04:05 AM |
| 3 | Just look at the likes and interaction this tweet got. It’s over for so many of us.Or her mom! | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/09/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Monthly Reminder: Women can have just about any guy they want (at least once).incel Of of curiosity, how would you define an incel in terms of looks? Personally, I think they would be less than a 4/10 in looks. I wouldn't say 4/10s are ugly, but they aren't average either. They're below average basically! | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/09/23 08:21 PM |
| 0 | Monthly Reminder: Women can have just about any guy they want (at least once).You do not need to be 6ft2 to be Chad This! There ought to be plenty of 5'8"-5'10" Chads out there. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/09/23 06:06 PM |
| 1 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.I don't think I look that young. College didn't do me too good in the aging department. Even the year after graduating, I still stress over it. I guess people might say I look younger because I'm not a big dude in both height and weight and also the fact that my voice isn't very deep. I could grow facial hair if I wanted to, but I choose not to. That could perhaps be another factor as to why people think I'm younger than my actual age. I think I look closer to my actual age. I'm just short, that… | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/09/23 07:09 AM |
| 1 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.Yeah, if you can feel it then you might have a chance. As for me, another problem I have in addition to my eye area has nothing to do with either my face or body at all. Well, three actually! One would be the fact that I'm on the autism spectrum as I mentioned in the post. Two ties back to one, but it would be not having that good of communication skills out there. Like, I might stutter or pause between words if I were to have conversations or something. And three, my mental health is not the be… | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/09/23 02:17 AM |
| 2 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.Being overweight or obese is a big problem because you can't see any bone definition underneath the face fat. Of course, there can be folks out there that are 3/10 when fat and even after the weight loss they're still 3/10 despite all the hard work they put in to better themselves. Some people are truly unlucky! | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/09/23 02:01 AM |
| 1 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.I guess I did get a little out of hand with what I said about the Instagram situation. Some people are just rather shitty and think they're superior. I'm still thinking about the eye surgery only because I think that's the only major flaw I have. I don't think I'm less than 4/10 though because my jawline does show though it can sometimes be hard to tell in photos. I don't care about being a 9/10 gigachad and I never will be. I just want to be somewhere in the 6-7 out of 10 range and I think the … | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/09/23 01:55 AM |
| 1 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.Ah, okay! I'm simply a 4/10 from my buggish eyes alone though again I did mention having a jawline. At least I'm not like a 2/10 because that kind of face rating would have to be really bad facial deformities. I'm also sub 5 regarding height, but no one's ever gave me shit for it because where I live there are a lot of shorter folks. I've had some women smile at me here and there whenever I'm out. As with balding, I don't think I'm balding terribly just yet. I just have my hair cut short at the … | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/09/23 01:31 AM |
| 1 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.I don't get how normies would be seen as incels. I thought incels were those that were less than 4/10 on the decile scale, at least according to Incel wiki. I did mention having a jawline, but it isn't like God tier. | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/09/23 01:20 AM |
| 2 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.Not all younger folks are like that, but a lot of them are for sure especially in your case. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/09/23 11:50 PM |
| 1 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.Yeah, people can be harsh especially younger ones. Gen Z is technically 1997-2012 borns, but some might disagree on that. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/09/23 11:35 PM |
| 2 | I feel like I'm a loser, but I don't wanna give up. Plus my life story, sort of.Yeah, you're right! Some people are just harsh no matter what. As for Ari, I felt bad for her regarding her looks not so much her home wrecking, the latter of which was why I started losing respect for her though I'll still probably listen to her first two albums from time to time. And you're right about fame/stardom! No matter how a person looks, there will be haters and you can't avoid them. Even the most popular and attractive folks have their fair share of haters. I don't know about talking … | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/09/23 09:29 PM |
| -2 | A new name for this kind of aestheticSo, not having sex makes you look older? I'm confused! I should look 50 or 60 at 24 by this logic. People say I look less than my 24 yrs, but I think they're being polite. I mean, I am a bit of a manlet (5'6") that isn't bulky in appearance and I shave my face a lot, giving that illusion of appearing a few years younger. My voice isn't very deep either and I think clothing style can have a part too although it can go either way for me depending on what I wear. My hair is cut short at the moment,… | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/09/23 06:04 PM |
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