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| 1 | The most honest PUA/dating coach?I'd recommend nick notas. I'm a very practical guy and nick fits this quite well. He also understands the toxic mindsets of PUAs very well and stays away from that as much as possible. | /r/seduction | 23/09/24 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Are German women direct in their rejection?Those moments where people do accept your small talk are great, it's the moments where I see a woman's closed expression yet I have to read her subtle body language (as reserved as they are even they don't offer a direct rejection.) I have been told to fuck off before, but that's when I had to deal with mean girls in middle school so I'm pretty desensitized to the harsh words thrown. Tho I'm sure I'll still feel the sting of a direct rejection, but I can move on from it and do it again relativel… | /r/seduction | 12/04/24 03:50 AM |
| 1 | Are German women direct in their rejection?I'm asking because where I'm from, we have to do a lot of assumptions via body languages and deciphering responses. A lot of guys, esp those into seduction, like this but me personally I'm tired of it. I like to get straight to the point. I hear about the culture being direct but that's just internet research, so I wanted to get inputs from those living in Germany and speaking from their experience. In Canada, women are very subtle in their rejection and a lot of it is soft rejection. I rarely g… | /r/seduction | 11/04/24 06:29 PM |
| 4 | What do you think has lead to a decline in men "putting themselves out there"?This is super fucked considering women date multiple men all the time. Keyword DATE. This could just be casual and not srs. This would be a different story if this was a srs relationship, one that agrees to be monogamous. A misandrist group like this is just demonizing men for having options and basically doing the same shit theyre doing. The reason that group exists is to be safe and avoid abuse which happens after the dating phase is done and they enter a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?Yea if you're not that attractive then you're the one who has to go up and introduce yourself to them in order to get their attention. The good news is that's all you need even if you are average looking. You can also improve your personality by getting charisma and leadership qualities but that will make it easy for her to be around you. Improving on your appearance will definitely increase the odds and may reduce the amount of active effort you need to do on your part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I'm not getting paid for this but I do agree with his stuff and think it needs to be out there in a sea of toxic dating advices | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I'm not him. The reason I'm sharing his stuff because out of all the toxic bs dating advice that's out there from both men & women, he offers healthy yet very practical advice. He needs more recognizing so we could reduce the men vs women shit that seems to be going on rn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?Oh yea I agree with what you're saying, I was getting clarification on what OP is trying to say. Also I feel a lot of the comments haven't actually watched the link I sent them lol. I'm gonna edit the description. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?The video actually addresses that strategy, the cons behind it are very important tho. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?So ignoring a woman can either get you the woman or you save time and money? If that's the case then you really should watch the vid I share. Up to you if you don't but ignoring someone def shouldn't be a strategy to attract healthy partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?Yea the video I shared is for you if that's what it is. I don't agree with push-pull. I understand how it works but there are much better interactions to invest my time in than entertaining that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?By strategy I meant the 'ignoring her strategy'. He's addressing the problem with that. I'm not sure what idea you got from my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I said the video addresses these tactics not that it's encouraging them. You learned the PUA stuff from other channels, this one is addressing the bigger picture of why it's not a good idea to use them. It's a perspective I find interesting and agree with actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?Then you have 2 options. Do the self-improvement and increase your looks if you want to increase your odds. Either that, or develop a charismatic personality as well as finding women who you have a much higher shot getting together with (in a situation like that she can find you attractive a little bit, and that exposure therapy will help increase her attraction for you the more time she spends with you.) If you're expecting her to find you attractive on first-sight then it's gonna be dependent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I wish i can upvote your comment more times cuz this is the bigger picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?The coach in that video actually addresses the problem this strategy has and I do agree with him there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I'm gonna disagree here. Whether you approach or get approached doesn't matter here. Based on your reddit username I'm gonna assume you're coming at this with a blackpill lense. I do agree that you'll get approached consistently (prolly due to your looks) which is why I would encourage guys to focus on self-improvement esp on appearance to increase your odds. Under no circumstances should you put up with an interaction where you have to not ignore her when you don't have women approaching you. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I agree with you, the reason it has to be said for dating is that the prospect of getting romantically involved with someone makes a lot of people vulnerable and it engages your feelings. So I think it does need to be emphasized in dating considering the amount of emotional investment I've seen a lot of ppl make in doomed relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?Yea you have to actively be out there meeting women and trying to date them, then you cut off the women who are ignoring you or treating you like crap and go for the ones that are interested in you. So yea def gotta be proactive here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?So ignoring a woman who's already interested in you is a good strategy, just not in a relationship right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I agree. No relationships are better than unhealthy ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I agree. If you want to have more options, you definitely have to improve yourself from the average guy. The main point of this vid is more about developing self-respect and not putting up with women who'll only be interested in you once you start playing games with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:01 PM |
| 0 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?Ah dude you're still too young. Also, have you been active in approaching any woman you like? Or do you usually wait for something to happen? How did you try to date women within your first 22 years? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I agree with your reply but I'm not a fan of using "unavailability" or lower value or any dehumanizing terms like that. I'd like to think that you're just living your best life the way you want it to, and the woman who's interested in you will make it easy for you to get to know her, and get her interested in knowing about your life would be easy since she's already interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?The video addresses this way of thinking actually. I'd like to know what you think of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:56 PM |
| 0 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?If that's your issue then you need to focus on improving yourself i.e your appearance, body language, confidence level etc. With that said what did you think of the video? It's not saying to deliberately ignore girls, but it has a more interesting message. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?The video didn't really talk about options that much, it's about specifically if ignoring them works and why you should do it. I do agree that men without dating success do have to make most of their opportunities but he does make some good points in this vid to keep in mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?The video actually addresses your bit about minimizing failure and harm. Do you think it has any merit to you personally? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:46 PM |
| 0 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?I appreciate your comment but I'd like to know what you think of the video. It offers a perspective I don't think a lot of ppl taking dating advice would consider. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?No, it's from the dating coach Nick Notas, I've been following him for a while and really find his work to be refreshing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Is Ignoring Women a good strategy?...Did you watch the link or did you just assume it's just toxic dating advice? If you didn't I suggest you watch the whole video and not just seconds of it, you'll be surprised what you'll find in there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approaches/online dating vs Dating women/men within existing social Networks, and why?Ik I'm late with this and I generally don't agree with the OP but one point I gotta expand on here. He then gets his reputation ruined in a social network This is especially true if you run in circles that actually judge you based on social status (i.e stereotype you as a nerd, seen as a "beta" instead of "alpha", playing dominance games, etc.). I've also been in circles where the majority largely don't think like that, but I met 1 or 2 assholes with the alpha/beta mindset use divide/conquer to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/22 12:26 AM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Not every nerdy guy chooses to withdraw from social interactions. If they are then they're often caught up on thinking if they focus on being smart and getting a good job then they'll be liked more. Coming from a brown household has taught me this much. But there are nerds in high school that have tried fitting in. I'm not talking about people who are social that happened to be academically gifted I'm more or so talking about it in a stereotypical sense. I'm gonna use fictional examples but thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Huh? When did I insinuate that they punish men by saying "no"? And yes if we teach men to accept "no" more gracefully, women still have the right to say no afterwords. I'm not sure where you're going with this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 08:25 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.People do it every day. Really? I actually find it in my experience that most ppl don't actually do this only a few men do. Not only that it's being talked about against almost constantly other than those who are in the community, to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.True. I don't mean to say to just rely on cold approaches, I'm simply saying is know enough so you can be confident in them and mix it in with your current lifestyle. I'm not pro only cold approach nor am I only pro-social circle. I believe you should maximize your options. And yes the second paragraph pretty much summarizes me well. Tho I have made some lifestyle changes. I've improved on my fashion sense, I went out to events where I learned more about their interests and tried seeing if I wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.No one has to just depend on the cold approach tho. I never said men should just stick to cold approaching and fuck everything else. All I'm saying is mix it in with the lifestyle you currently have. Yes, continue going to social events, chill with your social circles if you have any, parties, etc. Even if you're by yourself, go to groups of your hobbies, join clubs and make friends, no one is stopping you from doing that. But it still takes time to develop friends even from those venues and you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Yea I'm aware of social proof. But given I've dealt with social circles who are very status driven (and have alpha beta mentalities, both guys and girls) its hard to me to ever be comfortable in a social circle knowing ppl in a group are categorizing me in a hierarchy. Perhaps I've chosen the wrong ppl to connect with but I can't always tell who will be good to me or not. Plus in most social circle situations I've met plenty of dudes who are pretty much sociopaths in hiding befriend good ppl wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.No I think we should redefine how the cold approach process is. We need to encourage men to read body language more intently (to prevent approaching women who obviously appear too busy) We also need to teach them to take no for an answer and move on. No one should be receptive to the cold approach if they don't want to be approached. In fact if you don't want to be approached then you don't have to entertain it. Excuse yourself out of it. Now of course some men won't be able to tell if u want to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.You are talking about propositioning women, seeking their time and attention. And this is what I've been trying to address. Cold approach has been done in this way for too long that you're now associating that with propositioning women. I'm saying there's a way we can do this without needing to feel like we're being propositioned but it doesn't seem like you'll agree to it anyways. Honestly the only thing we can do is to agree to disagree. I'm trying to work towards making cold approaches a safe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 03:07 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Even in those right places developing them are hard af cuz of the reasons i mention. And considering I've said I wanted to fit in with other groups, there were times I felt a whole group didn't accept me for who I was, so if I were to be accepted into a specific groups I'd have to act like someone else instead of being completely myself. It completely discourages u from trying in social circles because it feels like you have to play by a completely different set of social rules that weren't taug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:58 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.This has been the struggle. Ppl say just learn social skills like it's an easy solution. They're not counting the fact thay if you try even in some social groups ure gonna make mistakes that will eventually turn hem away from you. So have you made these mistakes or did they just judged u by ur appearance and decided not to befriend u based on that?? And it seems like you have to go through the tons and tons of social rejection just to build up these social skills, but that means more work cuz no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:31 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Again sometimes those groups can exclude u for very stupid reasons like the ones I listed above. And depending on the social group esp on that's based on status it gets hard to communicate to u based on that. And even with properly developed social skills some ppl just won't give u that chance to talk to u, esp if ure considered an undesirable nerd in the social group. I've had to deal with ppl in social groups who spreads rumors and lies while pretending to be a friend to my face about it. Shou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.How do you feel about the men who flip the fuck out and start cussing and yelling when rejected? I’ve been physically restrained twice, had men reach for my arm or elbow, had a man follow me to the parking lot, had a man waiting at my car. Been called names and threatened. They need to learn how to handle rejection better. I'm sorry you had to go through this. It seems like when men do get rejected we naturally feel bad, but there's no way to redirect their feelings so they take it out on you. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 02:21 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.This right here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:36 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Also why did u insinuate that I'm pretending to like her company? It sounds to me you're just assuming the worst despite me voicing otherwise again and again. And I have talked to women whose company I don't enjoyed as much as I wanted to, and I have walked away from those situations. I'll only suggest to keep in touch with them if we both enjoy each other's company. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.If it's getting some positive responses then yes I do get that. It's just that dating in general is going to be a numbers game. You have to get rejected before you find those who are willing to go out with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.To the last bit of your reply I replied to ur other post addressing this bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:25 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Everybody likes someone that they find attractive. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a normal human response to someone we find attractive. Sure when you see her for the first time that's all you know when you do approach her. That doesn't mean you can't make small talk and ask what she does for work, what her hobbies are, what aspirations she has. If you ask questions like these then you are getting to know her for more than just her body. It doesn't always have to be about the physi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:24 PM |
| 5 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.All of the things you've said I.e following ppl around stores, making up phony reasons to talk to women, pretending to shop around, pretend to be lost, etc, is the reason why we need to redefine the cold approach process. Everything you have listed out here is very sleazy and what PUAs would do. There's nothing natural about this. Any man who's doing the things you've listed is doing a huge disservice to cold approaching and people in general. We should encourage men to read the situation and de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.I never said anything about a prepared script. You can do this while having natural conversations. If you're just suggesting that you like their company and offer to keep in touch, it's more natural to lead to figuring out if you both are on the same page or not. I agree that you shouldn't block the exit. In fact keep that shit open. That way if they do walk out then they're never interested or open in the first place. Cool, you can move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:16 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.No man should ever have to endure 99 rejections in a lifetime, much less in a year. Setting other inexperienced men up to fail over and over is unconscionable And you don't have to. Nobody is saying just stick to cold approaching and nothing else. You can still make friends and grow your circle. All of that takes time tho. During that time you can still try your luck with cold approach and see where it goes as long as you do it respectfully. But u don't wanna talk to strangers outside of ur circ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.I'm average height and I got a slight crooked face in which my jawline is covered by my own fat so my face is a bit rounded. Do u imagine success with cold approaches as succeeding getting a date everytime you approach someone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.It’s already acceptable if you follow rule 1: be attractive and maaaybe if you follow rule 2. Don’t be unattractive. I’m not sure what more acceptance you want. I agree here and I do think there are other more things that factor into it as well like how sociable you are, can you ask open ended questions that doesn't always end with a yes or not question, and can you lead the conversation towards what you want to figure out (as long as there's mutual back and forth and she's comfortable with it).… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.I'm an brown man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.If this is the reason cold approaches have become unacceptable then to me it's a very shitty reason. Of course if they don't find you attractive then they have the right to say no and you have to accept that and move on. But to make it unacceptable because of that reason is completely asinine. Just because she doesn't find you attractive doesn't mean another woman won't. We as men need to learn to take that rejection and move on so we could find someone who is more receptive to us and willing to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.With the high amount of rejection rate and people talking very badly about it, it is clear to me that it's not socially acceptable, otherwise cold approaches would pretty much be treated as a normal occurrence as opposed to being treated as a bothersome experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:41 PM |
| 5 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Hmmm how do you suggest that the kind of man in this situation I pointed out get started with social game? And would it take them a really long time to do or can they get started on it fairly quickly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Okay so how would you suggest someone like this to break out of it and get what they desire? Do you have any idea of what they should do short term vs long term? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Fair point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:36 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.I disagree here. I consider myself a pretty average person but I've definitely gotten dates out. You just have to play the numbers game because not everyone will find you attractive. But I do agree tho that if you are physically attractive you tend to have a higher success. So in this case you can put in that work to becoming attractive, but while you're putting in that work, if you see someone you like there's nothing stopping you from going up and talking to that person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:35 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.don’t follow the rules or show basic manners and etiquette, I’ve seen dudes Start talking to a women they like but completely ignore the people she’s with. Stand too close to them when there’s clearly a lot of space. See these are things that we can fix up about it. It's definitely about how you show up and making that initial first impression. I think whoever these men are need to improve their social skills and understand personal spaces when they do cold approach. A lot of cold approaches tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:31 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.Getting up in her space and her face to get her to look at you If this is what you thought of when I said cold approach then this is exactly why we need to redefine the process. It should be fine to do it as long as they're open to the convo. If not then we should move on. You "cold approachers" never include any initial eye communication in your process, where the conversation has already started before you even say a word. If you're someone who doesn't get that alot then you should consider be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.I don't really care how she feels about it. Hey man I agree that if you like a girl you should approach her I'm all for it. But I don't agree with not caring how she feels about it. Reading body language is very crucial when it comes to judging when someone is open or comfortable talking to us. Many times a woman has shown me she's uncomfortable right off the bad, I never got anywhere with her, and I probably wouldn't have wanted it if she's that uncomfortable. But I do get where you're coming f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:14 PM |
| 3 | Cmv: The cold approach should be socially acceptable.The thing is though, for cold approach to have a reasonable success rate (and by reasonable I’m talkig like 5%~ or 1 in 20) you need to be pretty confident that you will most likely immediately pass the girl’s looks threshold, or be extremely charming and can instantly lower her guards within the first 30 seconds to a minute. Ideally you’d have both. Unless the girl is supremely confident in herself (and in my experience most women aren’t), being approached by an unattractive guy will be perceiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 12:09 PM |
| 2 | Is a 29 year old asking out an 18 year old waitress creepy?Hey man some girls have DILFs as their types. If she likes ya u can give her Dat experience | /r/seduction | 19/06/22 03:43 AM |
| 1 | How are you supposed to apply any of this if there are 0 women interested in you?There's always a woman interested in you. Even some men who are unlucky in dating will always have someone interested in you. This is fact. But I suspect that if you hadn't notice that then the girls who notice you aren't your type anyways. You're probably paying to a specific type of woman that have never shown you any interest. Now how easy do the interaction feel with them? If it feels like the conversation is closing down very early on like within seconds (and they're giving very short and v… | /r/seduction | 23/04/22 03:20 AM |
| 1 | What is a good alternative to the red pill?Hey dude, it was interesting to read your post. A couple of things I want to say. Women prioritize feelings over facts: Any human that is dealing with intense emotions will generally prioritize feelings over facts including men. As for the description you gave here, if someone is going through intense emotions you have to work through them first, cuz they'd be too clouded to even listen to you. But I'm sure even women, once emotions are taken care of, would be able to see facts afterwords. But… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/03/22 03:43 PM |
| 2 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?Laid back, likable guys with big, male and female friend groups tend to do fine dating without any thought about this level of strategizing. Many of my social groups a lot of them thought I was weird and unsociable. Even when I tried to make friends with them it felt like I could never really fit in with them. The only social circle I was tight with back then were other socially awkward nerds without any women in the group other than the occasional lab partner here and there. Typically, when peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 01:09 AM |
| 3 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?This sounds like a very blackpillish response. I'm considered an average looking average height dude and I get dates with beautiful women. Idk about being the top 5% of guys I generally don't take numbers like that into consideration, but I don't see what's wrong with this. On one hand he's not saying looks don't matter otherwise he wouldn't be suggesting to work on fitness hygiene and style (a lot of this that actually does improve to help u become more attractive) but also work on ur communica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/22 12:02 PM |
| 1 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?I wish I can upvote this 100 times cuz this has been my experience. Anyways I'm looking into his articles and it seems like his content is actually pretty sensible. There's actually an article that talks about permission and identifies scenario's where it's okay not to ask for permission or to ask for permission. It's like an in-depth knowledge of consent. I also saw his "how to be yourself around girls" and it does talk about how touting this advice as the default and expecting them to figure i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 11:18 PM |
| 1 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?Perhaps we just have different ways of getting the help we need. It can either be through therapy or it can be through these articles or anything similar to the sort. But all i know is that the redpill pua stuff are out with in an abundance and we don't have access to much healthy sources these days. I see common sense as knowledge that's generally shared amongst other ppl. I didn't feel like the dating stuff or social skills were common sense to me as I wasn't able to have conversations when I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 10:08 PM |
| 1 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?Is it? Lol maybe it's the words I used. I made a post previously on this subreddit and it got removed for low effort, so that's why you see a lot of words here. Those are the guidelines in this subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 09:50 PM |
| 2 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?I'm talking about men who don't need dating coaches. They tend to think on the same lines as some women do regarding these coaches | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 09:49 PM |
| 3 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?Tbh with anything you can be self taught and can still be successful with it, it's just that having coaches makes it easier and helps save time on progress where as without it ud get the same results but at a much slower pace (but that also depends on who you are and how much help you really need in that particular area). But I read both of those books and they're very eye opening reads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 09:47 PM |
| 2 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?Women and men. I met enough men in the world that also think like this too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 09:43 PM |
| 5 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?That skill you're talking about are social skills which some of these ppl saying "why do they even need coaches" don't realize they have natural exposure that helped them inadvertently develop these skills. If we never get that or aren't put in certain situations that often, we're going to lack these skills even at a stage where ppl expect us to just know these things. I guess some of us were unlucky to miss out on all that. Then we have books like "how to win friends or influence ppl" and I bri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 09:39 PM |
| 2 | From Gamer Nerd to Dating Coach? Is Nick Notas a good alternative to PUA/Redpill?I see your point but I disagree here. There's no need to go to therapy unless you're dealing with really deep seated issues like hating women or dealing with various trauma like parental abuse or bullying. If it's just getting confidence about your dating life and being intentional about it then there's nothing wrong with it. Even feeling like you can't really talk to this girl or assuming she won't like u or reject u automatically (which is mostly just due to fear pr inexperience rather than so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 09:25 PM |
| -1 | [deleted by user]I can tell you haven't read a single word from my post. You've just read the title and assumed the context. I would encourage you to read the post and then comment it, because what you said so far hasn't got a single thing to do with this post. | /r/seduction | 15/08/21 11:20 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]I see what you mean. Yea I did consider naturally nice guy, but being a pushover and being easily available aren't something I'd consider naturally nice guy traits but there are situations in which one naturally does act that way without realizing it. Like with me, I can say I'm naturally a nice guy but I'm also someone who's not easily able to be taken advantage of. Ik a lot of guys who are nice guys but because they got a lot going for themselves they don't make time just for anybody so I want… | /r/seduction | 14/08/21 06:43 PM |
| 1 | [deleted by user]If what you're describing is natural for you, then you've must've gone through some point in your life where you couldn't get the things you want in your life directly, so you have to go through a manipulative route to get what you want without asking for it. Idk your life but I say this because this is not naturally nice, but naturally weak. I say this because I've been where you're at. Easily available emotionally and physically, easy to obtain/manipulate, but one thing I can do is stand up fo… | /r/seduction | 14/08/21 11:43 AM |
| 1 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.I get what you're saying dude, this was the same advice given to me when I first started out. Making friends first is good in terms of building up social skills which is the fundamental but not really enough to get dates. I think the ppl who gave u that advice comes from the mindset of "be her friend first and then hope it develops into something more" which does happen but has like the Hollywood or mainstream vibe to it as u kinda get lucky here. Plus this method is not always foolproof, cuz wh… | /r/seduction | 13/08/21 12:03 PM |
| 1 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Honestly where I'm from, girls tell me stories about guys not in their circle approaching them and shit and these weren't just one time stories. I know not a lot of guys do this but I'd be hardpressed to call it rare as we've got enough men out there cold approaching. Some dudes do it properly and end up getting dates, and then we got the very uncalibrated dudes who just end up taking up a woman's personal space. | /r/seduction | 13/08/21 12:04 AM |
| 1 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Hmm I see your point. In my experience I've met girls who still have guys coming up and talk to them. Perhaps I haven't met any girls who haven't been approached by any guy like at all. Still u should be fine regardless. | /r/seduction | 12/08/21 11:15 PM |
| 1 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Just because u go for the number doesn't automatically mean you'd get labeled as a pickup artist plus if she gets approached by guys often, you're pretty much the 20th at best, so u won't stand out to the point if she sees u again she'll point u out. If she sees u again u have to ask urself. Is she even apart of ur circle or life whatsoever? If not then it won't matter if u somehow see her again. Even if she's somehow apart of ur social circle, cool, u can still talk to her and be on cool terms … | /r/seduction | 12/08/21 10:51 PM |
| 1 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.u/jamesatom25 you can check this out | /r/seduction | 12/08/21 11:25 AM |
| 2 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.Hmm plausible theory. But this one depends on how you frame it. You can meet people from the same social circle from your own time that's true, but I doubt you get a reputation from that. The chances of meeting another person in a social group as another person you meet is highly unlikely (unless you're doing it in an environment they frequent). Even then you can actually reframe this situation as a natural meet up. The women I've met and dated using cold approach don't think I'm a pickup artist… | /r/seduction | 12/08/21 10:48 AM |
| 1 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.That usually happens when you spam approach indiscriminately in the same place where ppl see u approaching one woman after another. U kinda have to play it smart in these situations and pick and choose when to approach to avoid the pickup artist label. I incorporate observing body language signals as part of my process. If I see she's open to being approached, then I approach her and introduce myself. If I wanna approach more women, I usually change my environments as I don't ideally want to app… | /r/seduction | 12/08/21 12:34 AM |
| 0 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.I'm not the best person to ask this as I have the least experience with social circles. I've been in them but haven't been successful with it. The best I could say is to keep communication simple with people so they don't have much ammo against u. Unfortunately I think someone else is better able to answer that question. | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 04:56 PM |
| 3 | What a lot of guys don't understand about Social Circle Game is that there are 3 parts to it. 1) Meeting new people. 2) Getting to know them. 3) Then they introduce you to their friends. Most guys want to be at Step 3 without doing Steps 1 and 2. This is why social circle game doesn't work for them.There's also the reputation aspect you have to pay attention to as well. Once ppl peg you as a certain role I.e awkward nerd, loser etc that shit spreads like wildfire in social circles, so then you'd have to manage your reputation from others who are seeking to destroy it just so they can climb up the social ladder within your circle. I got no problem making friends but one of the reasons I stick to cold approach is so I don't have to deal with one person on which my actions will come back to b… | /r/seduction | 11/08/21 12:54 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approach Full RundownSorry about the late reply BTW I've been pretty busy | /r/seduction | 16/07/21 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approach Full RundownHonestly dude you should be pretty obvious. It doesn't have to be grossly obvious but it's a mixture of actions and verbal. I'll give in a few examples. Actions You walk up to her, you find a excuse to touch her (I'm not talking about handshaking or high fiving. I'm talking about ear touch, holding her hand in a underhand as if you're going for a gentleman's kiss, closing space.) Basically nonverbal actions that encourages you and her getting intimate. Touch, closeness of space, and positive bod… | /r/seduction | 16/07/21 04:12 AM |
| 1 | You can learn game from this love story which happens to be a hidden gemIt seems you can't see the link on the comment section. In that case, click on my profile and check the comments under there. You'll find the link there | /r/seduction | 27/04/21 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youThis! I don't like shit tests either. I'll only do it if I just want to get laid and that's it, but I prolly wouldn't do casual or FWBs as well as relationships with women like this. | /r/seduction | 26/04/21 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youYou got my interest in this subject piqued. Quick question. What self-help material do you use? Like books, videos, etc. The reason I ask is cuz I think there is something I got that may be of help to you, but I wanna hear what you say first before recommending them to you. | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youTo me that doesn't sound difficult. Actions over words man. I've met many women who were not interested in me, but guys were always telling me they were even if they weren't. I trust her behaviour towards me than what someone else would say. They can tell me a girl likes me, but unless I see that from her I can't really say for sure. I think that female friend actually has interest in you, she just doesn't try talking about it cuz she has a boyfriend. Tbh the fact that she has a boyfriend yet ac… | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 01:56 PM |
| 2 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youI'm not really cyber-security, you see the phrase "indicators of interest" or "indicators of disinterest" from traditional pickup artist books, that's where the term comes from. | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youThe way you worded this kinda reminds me of the light system Mark Manson has in his book Models. This is definitely something good to put out there. For me, I use attraction levels, so the 0-10 system. I use this because I think it's more in-depth to give you an idea what kind of girl you're dealing with (if she has an interest level between 0-4 she's not into you, 5-6 she's neutral, 7-8 she's really into you , 9-10 she can't keep her hands off you. | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youOkay so I read the entire thread and the comment section you guys got going on down there. In that case I've considered everything you said and there is something that did spring to mind. I remember reading something about having value vs being attainable. So value, when a woman sees you, what sort of value does she see. Does she think you're low value or does she think you're high value? If she thinks you're low value, she will think she'll do better than you, so she doesn't even think twice. I… | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youu/Byeahb and u/AlanCJ here is my reply to this | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 03:00 AM |
| 3 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youHmm if you're doing the work yet it still seems like it's not enough, then that may mean that you're average to below average, no offense. I'm not saying this just to be mean but the reason why I say this is because if this is the kind of guy you are, then you're rarely gonna have girls make the effort, reach out to you, or drop hints. They'll sometimes do that with the guy they like right off the bat. But back on topic, you're gonna have to play a really high numbers game just to get a few wome… | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 02:57 AM |
| 3 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youWhy do you feel no woman wants you? Are you telling me you never met a woman that wanted you? Cuz even the most unattractive guy can find girls that like him, even if they're very few in numbers. | /r/seduction | 20/04/21 02:23 AM |
| 5 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youI have to disagree with you here. Coming from a socially awkward background, you'd be amazed how many situations you're not able to recognize easily because of this. Hell, you don't have to be socially awkward, nowadays we also have to deal with mixed signals from people and people who pretend to be interested in us and we don't see it coming. Then you have to consider the legion of dating advices on the net that sometimes comes to conflict with other sources. So to say that it's not hard recogn… | /r/seduction | 19/04/21 10:15 PM |
| 12 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youI second this. If she likes you, she can approach you. Same way as if you like her, you approach her | /r/seduction | 19/04/21 10:01 PM |
| 23 | Don't pursue women who don't want you, focus on the ones that do want youI think there are people here that are taking this post a little personally. I'll try to clear the air up here. To those saying that me saying "focus on the women that want you" means "go after women you don't find attractive, ugly, or fat and they'll definitely like you" (you'll be surprised by this btw) I want to clear something up. That doesn't mean you completely disregard every girl you're interested in and go after the ones you don't want simply because they at least want you. I think we n… | /r/seduction | 19/04/21 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Putting the "nice guy" vs "jerk" vs "kind" debate to rest. [Part 1]This is one of the best posts I've seen man. I just want to go on the record and point this out. The word 'nice guy' is used to actually mean a guy was actually nice and pleasant to be around. I consider myself a nice guy cuz I do like helping people out and showing value here and there. But now it's at a point where being a 'nice guy' actually means being a pushover who's not direct with what he wants, bends over his boundaries just to have other people in his life, and having no values you fee… | /r/seduction | 11/02/21 03:27 AM |
| 1 | What is dating like for the average guy with game?There have been guys that claim they're average looking dudes and can get the dating life they got. I'm still somewhat a beginner so maybe they're doing something right that I'm not. Or maybe they could get hot girls but under situational circumstances where if this situation didn't happen, she wouldn't have given him a chance otherwise. I wanted to hear what the dating life is exactly like for the average guy that has mastered game. Or if the good looking guy was average before, then what was l… | /r/seduction | 22/11/20 05:04 PM |
| 1 | What is dating like for the average guy with game?This is normally what I do. I don't write public field reports but I have written down my experiences due to wanting to detect my own problems. The problem with trying to answer questions you've just pointed out is that every scenario I found myself in there's a tug of war between possibilities going on inside me. What I mean by this is lets say I approach a girl and I get rejected. I'd get trapped in a tug of war between "she just doesn't like you man, move on" and "If you applied this techniqu… | /r/seduction | 22/11/20 04:59 PM |
| 1 | What is dating like for the average guy with game?Ai, big misunderstanding here man. I actually didn't do 1000 approaches it's just an example I pointed out. I pointed this example out cuz I've heard from dating coaches that you have to do a lot of approaches to get some results, but I won't focus on that. I approached a lot of women but it's definitely not 1000. However, I am at a place where if I do see a woman I fancy I won't chicken out from approaching her. I'll just approach her, apply the "it takes her a couple seconds to minutes to figu… | /r/seduction | 22/11/20 04:54 PM |
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