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| 1 | Men's dating issues are rarely dealt with in a logical way by larger societyAnd on top of that, I need to have a good career and attractive and defined musculature in order to be optimally attractive. And those are just the factors that I can control. But after all of that, 90% of women will reject me because I'm a sun man and not a snowman, so the ceiling of overall genuine sexual attractiveness that I can reach is quite low. In fact, because I'm a sun man, I need to make over $300,000 extra dollars a year than the snowmen to compensate. https://blogs.sas.com/content/s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Men's dating issues are rarely dealt with in a logical way by larger societyThe problem with looks being the initial romantic catalyst is that it runs deep for both women and men. Women who are significantly below average in conventional attractiveness are seen as such by most men. But men who are dead average in conventional attractiveness are seen as below-average by the majority of women. https://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/2014/10/16/how-do-men-rate-women-on-dating-websites-part-2/ Your ethnicity (which is part of your looks) can also be a deal breaker. Over 9… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 03:51 AM |
| 4 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingThe distribution for IQ (I understand that it's a controversial and non-standardized measuring system) in people with autism seems to be shifted more towards the left and the right. So there are proportionately more autistic people with high and low IQs compared to a normal IQ distribution of NTs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 01:43 AM |
| 2 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingWhat are some of these "excruciating" behaviors? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 09:58 PM |
| 4 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingFaking neurotypicality doesn’t really work in the long term I agree. This comment may turn out to be helpful advice for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 09:57 PM |
| 2 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingI will not give an opinion on your last statement other than to say I still need to better understand the new DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for autism. But I have been clinically diagnosed with autism. I also have a depressive disorder, which is apparently comorbid with autism and high IQ (which I apparently have, but sometimes it feels as if my brain completely shuts down and becomes devoid of all conscious thoughts). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 07:46 PM |
| 2 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingPerhaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 07:43 PM |
| 3 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingI have lots of experience putting words into less-than-eloquent sentences, so feel free to fire away. You'll get no hate from me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 07:42 PM |
| 11 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingThe funny thing about this ethnic tax is that I have observed even more girls rejecting me over it in the past few years. I hear things like "sorry, Asians aren't my type" way more than I did 10 years ago, even though our society is supposedly more "accepting." I can just hear some redpill guys saying "well, go to Asia then." The brutal part there is that in China particularly, it is still ten times easier to date as a white man than as an Asian man. A 5'6 skinnyfat racist white NEET who hates w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 07:41 PM |
| 8 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingI can't blame them for not wanting to deal with that Neither can I, but if I consider that most of my straight partnered male friends are constantly talking about how stressful their lives with their girlfriends are, it does make it seem like (at least in long-term relationships) the guys in my life might really be more tolerant and open than the girls in their lives. In case someone thinks I'm overgeneralizing, I will emphasize that this only applies to my small group of friends afaik for sure.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 07:35 PM |
| 10 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingWhen you consider that even after all of this, autistic people are seen as less likable and trustworthy within 10 seconds of meeting an NT person, autistic guys really have the deck stacked against them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 05:38 PM |
| 5 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingNoted; I'll include sources then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 05:22 PM |
| 6 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingNote that they often have tendencies associated with psychopathy and genuinely do struggle with things like honesty and benevolent empathy unlike autists, who are incorrectly perceived to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 08:14 AM |
| 3 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingI am average height and Asian. We will see what happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 08:06 AM |
| 3 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingI tried your last statement for a long time, and the results were devastating. I suspect that if I can enter a relationship where we are both accepting of each other, the issues cited in OP will become much smaller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 08:05 AM |
| 13 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingHere is how to help: Understand that if we don't make the same faces that you do or look you directly in the eye while you're talking to us, it doesn't mean that we aren't interested in what you have to say. When we make a repetitive motion, it is often because we are overcome with feeling. It can be most any feeling. It doesn't mean that we're retarded (I and other autistic people in my friend group have actually gotten this). When you say something, and we relate a similar experience, it's oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 08:03 AM |
| 25 | The importance of male neurotypicality is underrated in datingThere are three points: The importance of neurotypicality is underrated for men in particular; in fact, male ASD can apparently be a deal-breaker for the majority of neurotypical women even though it is not often stated nearly as directly. When people speak of the importance of "being a good and caring person," they are likely usually projecting said importance onto a neurotypical person since autistic people do not lack empathy compared to NTs with similar IQs. Statistically, autistic women don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 06:04 AM |
| 0 | The advice women give here should be prefaced with "for ugly or average men only".Has your friend had a dating life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 05:18 AM |
| 1 | The advice women give here should be prefaced with "for ugly or average men only".That's not true. A man's race and height are huge factors. Furthermore, there are many women who are conventionally unattractive who will want a partner more attractive than them. On average, women only consider the top 20% of men attractive, and that stat might be even more exaggerated in the 2020s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 05:16 AM |
| 8 | Autistic women are more likely than neurotypical men to already have had a relationshipI'm in my late 20s. It may be coincidence, but I'm noticing women around my age are starting to take skills and money into account as they are beginning to want to settle down. In my early 20s skills and money meant jack shit to other women. I would say the blackpill is the notion that your dating success (and to some extent your success in other areas of life) is largely dependent on your genetics; "personality" and confidence don't play as much of a role as normies like to say it does. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/10/22 11:57 PM |
| 2 | Autistic women are more likely than neurotypical men to already have had a relationshipbeing good at certain things / making good money How old are you? | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/10/22 11:40 PM |
| 7 | Autistic women are more likely than neurotypical men to already have had a relationshipDon't forget huwite. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/10/22 07:56 PM |
| 46 | Autistic women are more likely than neurotypical men to already have had a relationshipOther findings from the same study: Most autistic men in the study have never had sex while a majority of autistic women have. Only half of autistic men in the study have ever held a girl's hand. Autistic women aren't less likely than neurotypical women to have been in a relationship in this study. Most autistic women in this study have kissed. The overwhelming majority of autistic men in this study have not. | /r/BlackPillScience | 28/10/22 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Why can't the men that women don't want pay for sex without women hating them for it?lmao OP's account is dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/22 05:46 PM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHow do people who don't eat out and make their own food date? I've always been curious about how people who don't eat out date and form relationships. I've known people who date and people who don't eat out, but they weren't doing both when I knew them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Job status/prestige are not significant determinants of initial interest on Tinder, for both men and women. However, after this initial phase, men less frequently start a conversation with unemployed women, but they still do not care about the particular job prestige of employed women.Some Americans do say this a lot to races that they hold in lower esteem; it's quite unfortunate because people whose families have been here for 200+ years will be told to go back to Africa, Asia, etc. | /r/BlackPillScience | 20/10/22 10:17 PM |
| 1 | It's not predatory, it's not biology, it's trying to get the best out of the dating game.PM me your bands, I'm always looking for new music. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 03:09 AM |
| 13 | In post-recession Sweden (1997–2002), there was an excess hazard of suicide mortality for unemployed men but not unemployed women.This is good data but the conclusion reinforces what we already know. Men make up about 80% of suicide victims. Women attempt suicide more, but men succeed more. | /r/BlackPillScience | 17/10/22 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Why is if considered offensive to ask women what they bring to the table?It's because women hold the power in the dating market and already biologically have what men want, at least in the initial stages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Ultimately, only the top 5% of men have power dating wise. The top 30-40% of women have power dating wise.Most men need to simply accept it...and simply do whatever it takes to get to the top of the ladder. That is simping behavior. If what you say comes to pass, all men will improve, and many women will likely still only go for the top 20% of men, and perhaps even a smaller percentage. I think this distribution might even be more extreme in the future since social media algorithms also reward exponentially. So the people who create the most appealing content will be promoted even more, and "average… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 07:06 AM |
| 2 | "you need a child"If you don't want kids, don't have them. You'd be doing them a disservice if you weren't fully devoted to them since life, death, joy, and suffering would be forced upon them through no desire or fault of their own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/22 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Men have it harder than women in dating primarily because they have a higher sex driveIt's because women's beauty standards have drastically changed through social media in ways men's beauty standards haven't. Now, women of all races, sizes, and shapes are touted as being attractive and are given modeling contracts, which is a good thing. But there has been no effective similar movement for overweight men and men of different races. Instead, women's height preferences in men have risen in the past 20 years, which culls even more men from the dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Men have it harder than women in dating primarily because they have a higher sex driveThe constraints of both of those things are very different. The man in your example wants to fuck, while the woman doesn't want to have a job and wants to instead take care of kids at home. In fact, I would say that the solution is quite easy for the man if he lives in a place where prostitution is legal. The solution for the woman is contingent on her finding a man who is willing to financially support her and at least one child. That could be quite difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Men have it harder than women in dating primarily because they have a higher sex driveIf they made rules regarding threads related to this topic, most of the threads in this sub would be banned. Perhaps for good reason too, as the problems in dating are relatively simple to explain, despite reactionary redpillers and blackpillers' insistence to the contrary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Men have it harder than women in dating primarily because they have a higher sex driveThe severity of most of these constraints is highly mitigated with birth control (I understand that not everyone can or wants to take it) or condoms, which both men and women can use. However, I agree with the part about danger, which is an unfortunate consequence of sexual dimorphism with regard to size and strength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Men have it harder than women in dating primarily because they have a higher sex driveI'm just responding to a post from yesterday. OP should have a "discussion" flair instead of CMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 09:05 PM |
| 0 | Men have it harder than women in dating primarily because they have a higher sex driveI'm not debating, just responding to a post from yesterday. OP should have a "discussion" flair instead of CMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 09:05 PM |
| 0 | Men have it harder than women in dating primarily because they have a higher sex driveI'm not debating, just responding to a previous post. OP should have a "discussion" flair instead of CMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?I'm sure that helps, but it doesn't negate those stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?But if they don't prefer dating within their race, like 40% of Asian women, then they'll often prefer dating white. Being less likely to be desired doesn't make you undesirable, but it does make it 15 to 20 times less likely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?https://home.uchicago.edu/~hortacsu/onlinedating.pdf ~95% of women of all other races will reject an Asian or Indian guy for being Asian or Indian. 40% of Asian women will reject an Asian guy for being Asian. https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&u=googlescholar&id=GALE|A253444982&v=2.1&it=r&sid=googleScholar&asid=d06970f5 Asian men need to make $247,000 more per year to do as well as an equivalent white man in dating. Obviously, exceptions exist, but the statistics don't lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?That's my bad. Here's the correct study; refer to page 49. https://home.uchicago.edu/\~hortacsu/onlinedating.pdf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 07:11 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?It's a repository of scientific journals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?Yup. Look at Table 1, about halfway down the page. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?What you're saying confirms the findings of this study, which show that Asian men need to make $247,000 more each year to have the same chances as an equivalent white male. https://home.uchicago.edu/~hortacsu/onlinedating.pdf There are incels who would say he is betabuxxing. Every situation is different, so I won't say that, but it's all in the study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 03:30 AM |
| 2 | Do you think men hit the wall around 45?Only a minority of white men are like that. Most Indian, Asian, and Middle Eastern men are undesirable to women at any age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Although the sample is imperfect in may ways, dating preferences may be mutable for at least one genderBasically I'm wondering if the preference for white guys is actually rooted in a biological basis beyond cultural biases. Blackpillers often assert that this is the case, but I've never been able to find a definitive source that suggests as much. | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/10/22 09:20 PM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI agree with your last point. To add, there are also a few neurotypical people who just decide one day that they have autism in order to get tiktok views. Sometimes, meltdowns happen because we become overstimulated. I think it is similar to NT meltdowns. The first two points I think depend on the person. It's unfortunate that you've mainly encountered autistic people who are harmfully selfish; not all of us are like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 08:16 PM |
| 37 | At American colleges, East Asian females were 1.5x more likely to report having sex outside of a relationship and had 1.25x more hookups than East Asian males, despite being more likely than East Asian males to report that "sex requires love" and "premarital sex is wrong."Consider that women tend to underrepresent their sexual encounters while men tend to overrepresent them. | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/10/22 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Although the sample is imperfect in may ways, dating preferences may be mutable for at least one genderOriginal post title before it got flagged for an eternal mod-approval phase: Qu\er Azn-American men have different r*cial preferences in dating (or none) depending on their mindsets* tl;dr: Qu*er Azn guys with internalized r*cism prefer dating huwite guys, while qu*er Azn guys with an "empowerment mindset" have no dating preferences.This study seems to support the idea that a preference for dating huwite men is cultural, assuming attraction works similarly for women as it does men who are intere… | /r/BlackPillScience | 11/10/22 02:14 AM |
| 1 | The Philippines Is A Potential Solution For Loveless Men To Find A RelationshipBut what happens if you're of another race? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 11:25 PM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingOh my, apparently we all do. In all seriousness, what are some other common things we do to come across as selfish douchebags? Also, how do we act "immaturely?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI live in the United States, and I assume you live in a French-speaking country? The first example you cited would be considered "Level 2" autism here according to the DSM-5 (and later editions) which is an "official" manual of mental disorders. The second would be considered "Level 1." There is a "Level 3" which is usually characterized by symptoms like the inability to speak clearly. Based on the usage of "high-functioning" in the studies, I would assume that they are talking about Level 1 aut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:58 PM |
| 4 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingSo I sat down and read your comment again today and thought about it more. If I'm reading this correctly, you're an autistic woman who's aware that you give "them" the creeps, but you're repulsed by autistic men as well. That's very interesting. I wonder why I, as an autistic guy, am not creeped out by other autistic people regardless of gender. Are you creeped out by autistic girls? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:50 PM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingThese studies used "high-functioning" autistic people and compared them to IQ-comparable NTs, so we're not talking about autistic people who can't practically function without assistance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 07:18 PM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingIf you're actively showing off how good of a person you are, your intentions are impure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 07:09 PM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI'm not trivializing anything. To many of us, "contorting the face" is exactly what it feels like. Not only does it feel menial and pointless, but it is hard to do, especially if we are talking at the same time. If it comes naturally to NTs, fine, but it doesn't come naturally to everyone. I'm not saying you're intentionally doing this, but it feels like you're downplaying how unnatural varied affective facial expressions are for many of us. Maybe you're good at (for example) art, and your NT fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 07:08 PM |
| 5 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingWhat were those behaviors? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 07:22 AM |
| 4 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingNot many autistic people I've known in my life are as you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:09 AM |
| 4 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingAgreed 100%, I wish that people would base their opinions about others on the others' actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:07 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI have found that as well; the people who speak the least often have a lot of insight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:07 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingHere is the stat for autistic adolescent males: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262581068_Brief_Report_Parent-Child_Sexuality_Communication_and_Autism_Spectrum_Disorders Here is the stat for autistic adults: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5789215/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:05 AM |
| 1 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI am in the US and had ABA therapy as a child, and it was not fun. I'm glad to hear it's better in the UK, especially with the recent political issues and issues surrounding utilities that the UK has been having. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:04 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingApparently it's to lessen "pill recruitment." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:04 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingHere is the stat for autistic adolescent males: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262581068_Brief_Report_Parent-Child_Sexuality_Communication_and_Autism_Spectrum_Disorders Here is the stat for autistic adults: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5789215/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 03:01 AM |
| 5 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingWhat if the autistic guy is Asian, for example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 06:07 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI think empathy is the wrong word. They really just seem to resent alternative worldviews then their own. I think there are many people of many neurotypes like this, especially when it comes to issues like politics. I have known some autistic people with strong aversions to alternative worldviews, but I have known others who are accepting of the same. Hopefully you meet more of them, and hopefully more of us can be more accepting in general, including myself. I can't completely answer your quest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:24 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI hope your last sentence comes true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:18 AM |
| 4 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingIt's interesting that you bring this up. I have also observed anecdotally that the most over-the-top friendly people can be quite toxic, although toxicity isn't limited to people with that sort of personality. I've found that if you can connect with someone on a more profound level than just on the surface, the differences between you and the other person seem to matter less and less. Admittedly, this is much easier for me to navigate with men, but I don't blame women who have their guard up by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:12 AM |
| 9 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingYour last sentence really hit close to home with me. It is so often that I see people who lie and talk shit about others behind their backs, but they get a pass because they smiled while they did it. Meanwhile, autistic people in the same social circles are openly laughed at before they even say anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:06 AM |
| 5 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI agree that disruptive behavior is exhausting and shouldn't be excused. Interrupting people while they speak and insisting that others like what you like while spurning the reality that some people will dislike what you like is generally not conducive to effective conversation no matter what your neurotype is. But the things I was primarily referring to are: The double standard that autistic people need to be more empathetic when, on average, they do not lack empathetic ability compared to NTs.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 05:03 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI don't think one necessarily has to do those things to get by, but it sometimes feels like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 04:57 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI remember seeing it for the first time around 2012, but I wouldn't be surprised if the usage were older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 04:55 AM |
| 6 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingSometimes they don't even have to saying anything for someone to clock them. I can personally vouch for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 03:00 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingPrecisely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:59 AM |
| 2 | 99% of heterosexual females want their boyfriend to be taller, and a good dealer heavier than them.At 5'7, you're taller than most women. Whether or not you are tall enough is another matter altogether, but most women won't be looking down on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:58 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingCopypasta in case my original comment is buried: So let's assume that a given autistic person is able to verbally engage with another person and verbally respond appropriately to what they say. This is possible even in short-term interactions. Given those constraints, I personally find it hard to understand that a lack of affective facial expressions would trip any red flags. Inappropriate facial expressions, sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:02 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingSo let's assume that a given autistic person is able to verbally engage with another person and verbally respond appropriately to what they say. This is possible even in short-term interactions. Given those constraints, I personally find it hard to understand that a lack of affective facial expressions would trip any red flags. Inappropriate facial expressions, sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:01 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingThat's fair given that the challenges/behaviors are problematic as opposed to the label. Do you know of any legitimately-helpful resources that an autistic person could access in order to overcome these challenges? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:57 AM |
| 5 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingThought-provoking. So what you're basically saying is that an intimate adult relationship is only possible with someone who has mastered responding to nonverbal cues? What if someone on the spectrum had no discernable issue with the features you described in your second paragraph? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:47 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingAnd I agree completely with your entire comment. I admit that I don't have much experience with "low functioning" autistic people because I have known very few in my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:38 AM |
| 6 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI'm also in my late 20s and have observed this same "social code." It is one thing to make the point that you have made, which seems to be that there is a social code that must be followed in many cases in order to have sex and relationships (assuming equal amounts of genuine empathy and genuine verbal engagement). It is another altogether to experience people telling you that certain portions of the social code are inconsequential and that people won't judge you for failing to follow them while… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:33 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingYour last sentence is the reason why I pretty much gave up on fake smiling, plus the fact that I would actually have to think about smiling, which would sometimes render me unable to talk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:29 AM |
| 5 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI have been in the "autism community," and while there's a lot of chill people (much moreso before ~2015 in my experience), there's also a lot of very outspoken people who joined because they suddenly decided they have autism based on very flimsy criteria. Your last paragraph and last sentence rings especially true for me. I always suspected very strongly that I had it, but I wasn't even diagnosed until I was an adult because my parents felt that they could not bear the shame of having an autist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:27 AM |
| 5 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingWhy would any given neurodivergent man not fulfill those criteria? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:23 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingWell played. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:14 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingHeh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:14 AM |
| 6 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI agree with the first paragraph completely. I mostly agree with the second paragraph except to say that I was in a social skills training program which did nothing to address the social double standards cited in OP. The third and fourth paragraphs you could also extend to other factors that are out of one's control, such as skin color. I think that it is likely more socially acceptable to exclude someone for being autistic than to exclude someone for being (for example) brown. Both are innate t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:13 AM |
| 3 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI see tons of posts pushing for autism acceptance every April in particular as well as every week or so on my facebook feed. I'm certainly not against the idea of true autism acceptance, but my view on the present movement sours in light of the statistics quoted in OP (which would seem to suggest that at least some are faking their acceptance) and the fact that many people I've encountered who would post about autism acceptance would also (for starters) openly laugh at me when they would see me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 01:06 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI actually don't see this play out nearly as much with autism, despite the fact that there are very few procedures that will even slightly validate our condition. However, I noticed that the people who frequently fundraised for autism groups or made posts about autism awareness would often be the ones to avoid me or burst into laughter upon seeing me before I even opened my mouth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 12:54 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingWhat's your definition of "weird?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 12:51 AM |
| 7 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI would hope people would judge my level of empathy by my words and my substantive actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 12:50 AM |
| 2 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingI started seeing posts about autism acceptance in 2012 or so. I still see them every April, and people will occasionally make posts of (for example) blue hearts on their social media feeds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 12:49 AM |
| 10 | "Autism Acceptance" is largely hypocritical virtue signalingThat's a good question. My definition of societal acceptance is to be accepted and treated in the same ways that any other person would in social/dating situations provided that one is not harming others or getting in the way of things they need to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 12:38 AM |
| 0 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:U:"Bread and vegetables are both on the food pyramid, people always emphasize how important vegetables are, so bread is really important for you!" Me: "That doesn't make any sense, bread is not just as important as vegetables because they're on the food pyramid." U: "Silly lib, I didn't say JUST AS important, all I said was it's in the food pyramid!" I am actually liberal. Not in the "classical" sense that Jordan Peterson uses, but I am genuinely left-wing. Be careful with the ad hominem you asc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:According to a Tinder experiment, an Asian male model is about half as successful as a white man who is not a model. https://nextshark.com/tinder-racist-experiment-reveals-challenges-dating-asian-man/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 03:04 PM |
| 0 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Comparing two things does not mean equivalence. It is just that both are on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I am arguing for the validity of sexual needs not based on the validity of income inequality but based on their inherent validity. There is nothing more to be read beyond the scope of what OP or my comments say. If you want to directly respond to the points made, go ahead, but strawmanning won't help the discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 03:02 PM |
| 0 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:No one said sexual needs are as important as income inequality. It's just that both are on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, yet the societal response to one is very different from the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&u=googlescholar&id=GALE|A253444982&v=2.1&it=r&sid=googleScholar&asid=d06970f5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 01:09 PM |
| 0 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:I addressed this in an OP edit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 11:58 AM |
| 6 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:If that is true, it is really not a good deal for the bald chubby guy who has had to wait a very long time while the same women who would "settle" for him were rejecting him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 11:12 AM |
| 3 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Instead of affixing a label onto any pill, corroborate your statement. Any statement with no evidence is not made from any sort of high ground. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:I already addressed your first point in an edit to OP and several other comments in this thread. I will have to read more studies on prostitution and human trafficking. I don't doubt that making prostitution illegal reduces human trafficking, but I will now have to consider whether or not it is truly the only solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:57 AM |
| 3 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Women of all races besides Asian or Indian are indeed more likely to reject an Asian or Indian man than a 5'4 white man if you go by the first study linked. In fact, being Asian or Indian is about the same as being a 5'3 white man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:What doesn't it fix? One could argue that human trafficking should be prosecuted more heavily instead of banning prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:How was that list generated? I will discount fame since it is unrealistic to simply expect 99%+ of men to become famous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:29 AM |
| 3 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:All you've had so far are whataboutisms (in this comment) and ad hominems (in at least two comments). Try to discuss more logically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:27 AM |
| 2 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&u=googlescholar&id=GALE|A253444982&v=2.1&it=r&sid=googleScholar&asid=d06970f5 tl;dr: 95% of women of all races besides Asian or Indian will reject an Asian or Indian man for being Asian or Indian. 40% of Asian women will reject an Asian man for being Asian. Here are data taken from an okCupid post that was later deleted. https://imgur.com/a/mPd9W tl;dr: 90% of women reject a man for being 5'4. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:16 AM |
| 0 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Legalize prostitution, and regulate it so all parties are safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:09 AM |
| 6 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Prove the statements in your first paragraph instead of resorting to ad hominem and then we can discuss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Women only find the top 20% of men attractive while men rate women's attractiveness on a bell curve. It stands to reason that if men "made themselves better," this paradigm will continue. There is only so much some men can do as well. If you are Asian and male, that disqualifies you from 95% of women of all other races and 40% of Asian women just because you are an Asian man. If you are autistic, there is an 86% chance you are single, and this applies to "high-functioning" autistic people. I am … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 10:02 AM |
| -2 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Your first sentence is exactly the point I was trying to make with OP. The "gaping hole" you describe is outside of OP's scope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:52 AM |
| 0 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:I will not respond to your last paragraph as it is completely outside the scope of OP. Your first paragraph has very fair questions. Men want companionship like any given person might. Men also desire sex much more than women. So it is basically both, although it is more complicated than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:What you have said has no bearing on what I have said given that I neither stated nor implied anything in your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:47 AM |
| 2 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:I commented this elsewhere, but I'll copypasta in case the original gets lost: "What do you bring to the table?" arguably has much narrower criteria now than it did in the past, especially for young people. That is why I said sex has become less tangibly transactional. In the past, there was pressure on young people to be married early. Factors like compatibility, education, social class, and income were very important for both men and women. Now, the biggest predictors of dating success are, in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:"What do you bring to the table?" arguably has much narrower criteria now than it did in the past, especially for young people. That is why I said sex has become less tangibly transactional. In the past, there was pressure on young people to be married early. Factors like compatibility, education, social class, and income were very important for both men and women. Now, the biggest predictors of dating success are, in order, race and height. These are factors that men generally cannot control. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:43 AM |
| 0 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:That is not true. Legalizing prostitution legalized prostitution, along with implementing a certain set of regulations deemed necessary. Besides the legal proceedings, how did it do nothing? How won't it do anything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:39 AM |
| 1 | Modern-day sexual issues are very simple:Sex is a need on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Men desire it much more than women. "Dealing with it" is tantamount to saying that people should just "deal with" things like massive income inequality, which is an issue that many are trying to solve, unlike sexual issues. Women increasingly want relationships outside of the age range specified in OP. When they are younger, their threshold for innate biological factors is much higher. What I say is supported by studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 09:36 AM |
| 2 | Job status/prestige are not significant determinants of initial interest on Tinder, for both men and women. However, after this initial phase, men less frequently start a conversation with unemployed women, but they still do not care about the particular job prestige of employed women.East Asian. | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/09/22 08:34 AM |
| 5 | Job status/prestige are not significant determinants of initial interest on Tinder, for both men and women. However, after this initial phase, men less frequently start a conversation with unemployed women, but they still do not care about the particular job prestige of employed women."We found that in the first stage of the dating process on Tinder (i.e. when deciding on whether to like another user), both males and females do not care whether other users have a job, nor do they care about their job prestige if those other users are employed. However, during the second stage (i.e. when deciding whether to start a conversation with a Tinder match and potentially organise a date), we established that males less often start a conversation when the female user does not have a jo… | /r/BlackPillScience | 30/09/22 06:54 AM |
| 2 | Why do women participate in the hook-up culture if they aren't getting the outcomes they want?*it benefits the top 5% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:40 PM |
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