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CMVSkookumTree/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:48 PM
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20y age gaps weren’t the norm in the West for at least the past 500 years bro
/r/Divorce_Men08/07/25 05:51 PM
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Maybe. Are they conscientious people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:46 AM
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I mean, it might make me more socially graceful. I could consider it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:46 AM
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Many men love bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:33 AM
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I hit the wall at 18 and again at 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:22 PM
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You’re unattractive. If desexualization is hurting you I’m sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 12:22 PM
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Old enough to consent and able to do basic hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:13 AM
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Yes. Being in a relationship is and should be about as difficult as running the Boston Marathon or climbing Denali. Most able bodied young males can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:06 AM
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Yeah possibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 10:23 PM
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Can he inspire the personal life and death loyalty of other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:44 PM
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Have you ever seen like living breathing performance art? People who were essentially socially flawless, who had been focused on being graceful since they were in elementary school?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:43 PM
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Interesting. I would say b is easier to turn around although 35 is very late
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:12 AM
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A question: am I talking to a fellow autist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:08 AM
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My close female friend was very busy at her farm when I was in college near the farm. I offered free manual labor many times. She always refused. I wasn’t a weak guy or anything but will cop to essentially being untrained brawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:03 AM
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I wonder what could have made you that kind of person. Aside from trauma: frequent and prolonged exposure to physically disgusting things, as well as a hobby that exposed you to physical pain. Something like ballet dancing followed by work as a nurse or in healthcare could do it, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:00 AM
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Interesting. Few tried that with me, although it happened a couple times. I gave them like $20, although I would and have done this for other men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:55 PM
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Meh. I like bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:11 AM
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No, although desexualization is everyone’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:04 AM
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My parents were too saccharine, although many will call me a fatalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:04 AM
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I’m surprised that your parents told you that a good relationship was even on the table, heroic effort or not, with your disability. Did they tell you about desexualization - the concept that you would not be interested in relationships and that you were going to be seen as gross or transgressive or creepy for wanting a partner at the school dance in ways your classmates would not be? Did you experience much of that? I had some of that, and through little fault of their own they didn’t prepare m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:01 AM
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I wonder how she feels. Maybe she enjoys it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:56 AM
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Wisdom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:49 AM
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Mmm I could go for a queer platonic relationship with an autistic bitch if we got to cuddle a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:48 AM
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I had hoped for that, then resigned myself to type 2 fun. A march through hell for wisdom and belonging. I may have gotten it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:47 AM
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Something like 30 percent of 16yos aren’t virgins. I was after whatever unique wisdom came from having sex and relationships. At 27 I decided that standards only mattered for keeping you from being evil or sticking it in crazy, and crazy - even the kind that stabbed you - was okay. At least I’d have the goddamn wisdom, disgust be damned. I didn’t give a shit about whether it was fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:35 AM
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I mean - I wanted one (1) abrasive insensitive caring autistic self described bitch girlfriend. I never wanted casual sex. Failing that, I wanted to be able to shoot my shot like anyone else, not to be told I would die never having had a relationship and also getting disgust from people that I wanted sex and relationships. A few dates and a couple of girlfriends in my twenties would have been more than enough for me. I could have settled for the belief that these things were possible and okay fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:30 AM
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Hard disagree - a 4 can go from a chubby paramedic to a ripped fashionable doctor, if he’s 5’4” he’s still kinda hosed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:33 AM
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This is just the backlash from heroin chic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:21 PM
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What if he had been friends with her for months or years and was pretty sure she was working for herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:43 AM
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Being unattractive and not asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:37 AM
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Odd; I was hyperlexic and read very early and voraciously. No language delay. Many such cases
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:34 AM
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Yeah. It’s like…I would probably do that for a close male friend. It would be like shoveling shit or something. I think differently after having been desensitized by healthcare exposure. It is not a fun experience. You stop caring about physical disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:05 PM
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Cap
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:56 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:24 AM
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Hell the death and injury are part of the point, it’s an honest expensive signal that you are invested in membership
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:01 AM
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Eh - I mean, plenty of 400lb women with fit employed short guys tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:00 AM
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No, it was preying on the ingroup that got you in trouble. You could do whatever you wanted to the out group or enemy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:58 AM
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What is your undergrad GPA? I’m black also, 3.6/519. Former mcat tutor. I was in the running for places like Harvard but they were by no means rolling out the red carpet. Being black is about as much of a plus as being a veteran or having done peace corps or possibly something like a PhD or something… Good luck on the mcat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:51 AM
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Here’s an idea: find neurodivergent women. Also fuck appearing normal; go for success.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:51 PM
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You’re me but five years younger. I got the MCAT, but did only okay in med school and failed to match my dream specialty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:50 PM
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Misaligned but functional is different from unsound teeth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:45 PM
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I think I could write a post here about how men’s desire for hookups is gross and hypocritical in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:11 PM
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Damn: gaining 200 lb is fucking wild
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:10 PM
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Go for genuine interest at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:09 PM
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Also these guys truly do not understand what terrible women are like. Let me just say that in one piece and breathing free air is the bar. Did anyone get hospitalized or jailed???
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:07 PM
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Eh. Accept and be grateful for what you can get
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:06 PM
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Huh. I can see my weirdobitch self in a deeply romantic asexual relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:05 PM
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IMHO most women tolerate sex and find their partners disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:04 PM
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Yep. You need to be outgoing and gentle. Being genuinely okay with being killed, maimed, or thrown in prison is a huge plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:02 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:01 PM
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I used to feel the same way, but extended exposure to disgusting shit in healthcare has muted my sense of disgust deeply and made me rather nihilistic. I don’t care as much about being disgusted nor do I feel it as strongly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:00 PM
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How late is too late
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:07 PM
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It could be entitled to expect a woman to actually want you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:06 PM
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I’m not seeing that as misogyny. Us guys are poisoned skittles and suck ass in many ways. As men we just have an ax to grind about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:06 PM
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For fucks sake - most women are disgusted by nonChad guys and tolerate sex with them in exchange for money and resources
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:05 PM
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Depends. I’m picking the man, especially if he’s hostile. Would rather fight an evil dude with a rock than a hungry bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:47 AM
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Disagree. Bitch is beautiful. I personally can’t fucking get enough of unfeminine bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:14 AM
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Yeah. You can get masculine women or ones with high sex drives. Thing is. Genuine NLOGs are fucking weird!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:09 AM
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Disagreeable bitches actually do pretty well if they’re kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:08 AM
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Yeah. I never understood locker room talk. Also. IMHO disagreeable bitches are beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:06 AM
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Apparently my bi ass has feminine sexuality: there is a physical appearance threshold - “not morbidly obese”. Then it’s about personality. Blunt abrasive caring neurodivergent Frida Krueger is sexy. So is confident feminine Freddy Krueger in a dress and maybe thigh highs. At least - someone who looked like that. I’d date Turia Hoskins: she is a badass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:51 PM
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Yes. I’d still want an abrasive insensitive caring bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:04 PM
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Yeah IME they usually have feminine bfs, or girlfriends. Occasionally they have hypermasculine chads
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:20 AM
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I like abrasive unfeminine women. Don’t like obesity but a confrontational forceful abrasive gf seems awesome. They’re Bitches. Not usually losers, that implies some element of laziness and sloth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:14 AM
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I knew a funny, fit, cynical burn victim. Her sadness was a bigger turnoff than her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:11 AM
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Undatable maybe. Undeserving: question unanswerable. Is math hot or cold?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:09 AM
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Will it get you killed, maimed, or thrown in prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:05 AM
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Then they need to be okay with lifelong celibacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:01 AM
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Lmao - caring, and also a huge bitch. Respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:00 AM
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Is that better than him being a 30yo virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:00 AM
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Interesting. I’ve known some rather unfeminine women who did okay enough with guys. Like. Buzz cuts and unshaven legs and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:48 AM
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This is a feature
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:32 AM
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I mean other men also bullshit. Some are honest and tell the autists that they’re doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:31 AM
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They get them when they can. Other times they get a bunch of the small nurses. True whales are rare and bariatric tools exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:22 AM
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They aren’t designed for you and as such you are at a minor to moderate disadvantage: the head is too heavy and more importantly the handle is too big. On average: you could be 6’ and a muscular 200 pounds for all I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:20 AM
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I know a lot of short doctors married to medicine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:50 PM
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Why don’t the ugly ones get plastic surgery? Seriously: if it fails they’re just ugly and they can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:46 PM
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Or Fussell although it’s dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:42 PM
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5’9 in America is exactly average or close to it. It’s not your height. Get fit and social and get therapy. Also consider dating unfeminine insensitive bitches; I am not joking when I say they’re often wonderful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:41 PM
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You need another zero on your salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:37 PM
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Idk. Unless you’re asexual your perspective might or might not change after you’ve had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:17 PM
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Yeah. It needs to be a good deal worse than “neglectfulness”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:15 PM
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Dead bedrooms are far from the worst thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:24 PM
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Never even kissed anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:23 PM
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Haha. I guess short or ugly guys are just hosed; such is life. Not everyone gets to become a lawyer or professional basketball player or have a loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:20 PM
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Why is that? You want more single celibates?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:22 PM
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That is an absolute shitload more than the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:09 AM
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NLOGs exist; they are weird bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:11 AM
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Yeah, fair - but at that level you’re being desexualized and it’s considered gross that you even want a date
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:15 AM
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Yeah. If you wanted to win this “challenge” the easiest way would probably to get him a gym membership, a personal trainer or something, and a passport. Maybe to the Philippines or Thailand or somewhere where there are a lot of desperate impoverished women looking for a way out. Yes. It’s kind of gross, but it is at least nominally consensual. If we’re talking stateside? No idea. Get him a stylist and personal trainer or something, and maybe idk a bunch of drugs to sell?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:48 PM
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There are a lot of short doctors, especially Asian and Indian ones, that fit this bill and are married to medicine
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:27 PM
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What the hell does a guy extremely high in beta traits with zero alpha traits even look like? A rigid and possibly devoutly religious autist with a good career and lots of integrity? Shawn Murphy from the Good Doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:14 PM
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Black pill: for the disabled, to be honest, if you define disability generously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:13 PM
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My own father didn’t like taking me to the local playground for this reason! Ask the fathers you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:51 PM
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Idk bro Fuentes could be bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:42 PM
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I used to work with an Eastern European engineer. She was blunt as fuck and hilariously insensitive. Also really sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 10:24 PM
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Yeah - just act like fugly people, especially men, have fucked up socially if they want sex or relationships. That usually fixes em.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:50 AM
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No, but short guys, 5’4 and below, are kind of expected to be celibate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:45 AM
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Hah, I guess there is a difference between surgeons and IM docs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:44 PM
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Odd indeed. It MIGHT change for them when they become attendings although there’s still a few short attendings “married to medicine”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:05 PM
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This is wild; a lot of my shorter doctor friends do not get dates. They aren’t bad socially but they’re short
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:00 PM
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Sis. 600lb women have guys lined up to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:04 PM
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It means you have to be the social version of a concert pianist. Never make a mistake big enough to be put into words.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:03 PM
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This. 600lb women have partners lined up to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:01 PM
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I mean I’m pretty unattractive and my expectations include not being a danger to herself or others and the ability to manage her own affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:01 PM
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Yep. You need to, if you aren’t very good looking, be very close to the social version of a concert pianist or professional comedian. Every word flawless and not even the suggestion of a hair out of place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:59 PM
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Maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 04:54 PM
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Are you okay dating 600lb women that struggle with walking?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:01 PM
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Uh you kinda do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:16 AM
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Yes. You need to be at this level to have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:15 AM
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No, but you need to have a shot at Division I
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 03:09 AM
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I don’t want traditional femininity. I want an unfeminine insensitive bitch. The caring bitches are amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:00 AM
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Yeah. When you get to very disabled or deformed you have different shit happening though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:47 AM
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I know plenty of short doctors that are “married to medicine”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:52 PM
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I’m not saying women should be forcibly prevented from working, more like his money is ours money and her money is hers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:49 PM
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Why should women have to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:45 PM
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Yeah, same. However I was thinking more the deeply insensitive blunt abrasive types.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:37 PM
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So what do you suggest for our 5'4" balding Indian man who's successfully made the transition from janitor to doctor?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:33 PM
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interesting. thought that men preferred competent, blunt, insensitive but caring women that fixed their problems like a broken car.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:21 PM
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Yes: between bad options and nothing, in a lot of cases. Many women are in the same boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:20 PM
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IDK; in my experience men love bitches. At least - the ones that will stab you in the front, not the Mean Girls backstabbing ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:19 PM
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Haha - you're a fan of self described bitches too? Awesome - disagreeable women are often cool af.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:18 PM
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The man needs to pay for everything and is ultimately responsible for what happens in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:33 PM
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In their league: good looking fit guys, some of whom look like the Greensboro Jock himself, but are a bit entitled or angry. Or haven’t been entering local photography competitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:49 PM
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That is odd - maybe "weird" is a euphemism for short. There are a lot of short and reasonably fit professional guys that would be very happy to go out with your friend if she is not morbidly obese and can hold down a job. What do you mean by "not many available men"? Not many tall or at least average guys in decent physical shape earning a quarter million a year or better AND willing to pay all the bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:15 AM
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I have a fairly large number of female friends. It’s a committed relationship with a guy who is plausibly in her social circle BUT more successful than her AND who is emotionally sensitive and at least pretends that they’re equal that is hard to find. Only the disabled, deformed, and the very heavy have genuine difficulties finding boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 08:38 PM
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Women can snap their fingers and find boyfriends to take care of them and pay their bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:48 PM
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I mean - if you take the position that the man is ultimately responsible for the relationship, it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:48 PM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:09 PM
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No. Also, still no after he loses the weight, and gets his teeth and jaw fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:59 PM
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Yeah. IMO short guys are just people who are meant to be monks. Or nurses and caregivers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:46 PM
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Would you rather be with a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:44 PM
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No. Broke men mostly accept that they aren’t worthy of healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:43 PM
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Yeah. If they go for short guys they can get ripped doctors and lawyers though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:44 PM
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Absolutely. Beats a lot of things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:43 PM
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I mean it’s a huge advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:28 PM
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How tall is he
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:52 PM
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Agreed. Disability is the true black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:00 AM
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That is kind of odd; where I grew up it would have been kind of understood that you would never have a partner. Other men would have been disgusted a little that you even wanted one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:59 AM
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I wonder if your entire family was just very short and very charismatic people and you got a genetic advantage plus lots of instruction and aristocracy style tutoring. You could have been a CEO or a politician or something if you were a foot taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:58 AM
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No. I’m talking about desexualization, in the disability theorist sense. The rules are much closer to “Don’t talk about dating or relationships, even in the most G-rated, vanilla ways, when I’m around.” It means keeping your mouth shut when celebrity crushes are brought up. It means that you talk about being focused on a prosocial career when future plans are discussed, and you DO NOT talk about wanting to be married someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:44 PM
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Short guys aren’t average. From what I’ve seen - the working class guys understand where they stand early on and aren’t as squeamish. Middle class and UMC guys are instead focused on their careers and don’t accept they’re unattractive AF until their late 20s or early 30s. Then they’re often with older and MUCH heavier women. By middle age the pressure of dealing with her health issues often leads to divorce; sometimes they stick together and he’s a nurse and purse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:42 PM
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Yeah. However I was alluding to the fact that very unattractive people can often have friends, even opposite sex ones conditional on presenting as asexual chaste monks or nuns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:27 PM
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No, I’m talking about relationships and marriage, not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:24 PM
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Strong disagree. Lots of autistic guys have female friends and present as asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:23 PM
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Plenty of guys can have female friends but never partners
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:55 AM
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Have you ever had sex or a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:54 AM
3

I mean wouldn’t that mean that all the Eastern Europeans looked feminine? Vlad looking goblin like doesn’t make sense even if mom was a model and dad was an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:42 PM
1

Basically he was at professional level. Could have started his own cult, but probably not a major world religion. Could probably recruit the entire gym to quit their jobs and fight in Ukraine. On the Russian side.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:00 PM
1

I mean. There’s confidence, and then there’s El Chapo levels of social skill and charisma. Can he command the life and death personal loyalty of other men? How many? How many people would go to war for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 05:59 PM
0

You’re not open to women twice your weight and a decade older
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 05:58 PM
1

Yeah. He is going to be in hell if he marries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:58 PM
1

Yeah - he’s just got to go for women twice his weight
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:58 PM
1

Yeah, I’d honestly advise him to go abroad, be single and celibate for life, or look for women 15-20 years older and twice his weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:57 PM
1

So they should just be celibate for life, I guess? Maybe encourage the Catholic ones to join the priesthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:56 PM
1

Being a multimillionaire before 30 is hard. If you can do that you can probably get a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:54 PM
1

Accept being single for life or better yet be a nurse and purse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:53 PM
1

I’d recommend psychiatrists. Or maybe dermatologists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:51 PM
2

Pmo bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:43 PM
0

That’s pretty insane; all women need to bring to the table is sanity and basic hygiene imho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 04:38 PM
2

IMHO it’s not unreasonable to expect autistic people to dedicate their lives to becoming good at communication. I knew a few that went as far as becoming clinical psychologists partly for these reasons. You should be able to WRITE books on communication in order to be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:14 AM
2

Uh no? It’s closer to “be at concert pianist level socially, a single word a little too loud and you are cooked” lmao. This is what normies are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:12 AM
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Autistic men are creepy if they’re not completely asexual. If one says something vanilla and G rated like “I’d like to get married someday” it makes him creepy and he has broken a social norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:11 AM
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Sort of disagree but that is very personal as a belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:09 AM
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Guys will absolutely date and support untreated schizophrenic women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:08 AM
6

Yeah. I’d advise an autistic son to expect lifelong celibacy and that he’s a walking ATM at best unless he is good enough to teach courses on communication to normies. Sad but true. If he wants a relationship he’s going to be a nurse and purse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:07 AM
1

Yes. You need to be pulling in a million a year and have enough charisma for a career in politics, plus the body of a Greek god. That’s table stakes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:50 PM
1

Not really bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:47 PM
1

Basically - short men and unattractive people in general are more or less chosen by lot for celibate life paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:43 PM
1

Yeah. It’s an actual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:42 PM
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I mean, you will become a modern Don Quixote like that. He got an epic ass kicking, among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:02 PM
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Yeah. Usually all three are necessary unless you want to be dealing with hospitals or the legal system. Just being jacked gets you a woman twice your weight who has trouble wiping her own butt. Rich? A gold digger if you are lucky. Charismatic? Maybe you do okay, maybe you wind up with a complete and total piece of shit who should be in prison. Table stakes is being jacked, enough charisma for a career in politics, and a million a year. Anything less and you’re probably living What’s Eating Gilb…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:04 PM
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I mean, hopeless? There’s a lot of honorable and good things that can be done outside of romantic relationships. Many jobs and careers are hard on them: he can go be a wildland firefighter or a truck driver or a brain surgeon. He’s just unlikely to have a healthy relationship. Maybe you could take him to BBW bashes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:38 PM
1

Agreed. He needs to go for 350lb single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:15 AM
6

He’s 5’5.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:14 AM
2

That is an interesting one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:38 PM
1

A 5’5” fit internal medicine doctor who speaks three languages and cooks like a professional chef will be overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:58 PM
1

That doesn’t seem that hard. I know a lot of short doctors who for some reason are always single…yes, even the attendings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:55 PM
1

Adam, unfortunately, will wind up dedicating his life to humanitarian pursuits. He is unlikely to ever have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:52 PM
1

I mean if he’s just sleeping with average married American dudes one might be a hothead or have criminal connections or a backhoe or something…and our dude is worm, hog, fish, or gator food.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:04 PM
2

Okay, he’s 5’4”. Or, he’s 5’0” because of health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:15 PM
2

There are people who are reasonably successful professionally but do not have romantic relationships. Both men and women. Quasimodo might get the corner office if he’s just that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:47 AM
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He is unlikely to get killed by his own family, but he might get himself whacked for sleeping with married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:46 AM
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plenty I mean. I only ever saw one person like this; he is a fit man who will be a literal brain surgeon. All the rest were either with very heavy women or crazy pieces of shit. I’m talking too big to wipe their own butts properly. Not even kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:52 PM
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Yeah. A million a year seems necessary. Plastic surgery and fitness can help. So can going abroad. But he needs seven figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:39 PM
1

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:30 PM
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I mean. Caleb is presumably physically attractive af and has a sexy personality to boot. Why can’t we make Adam as ugly as Caleb is attractive? Sure, being fit and plastic surgery can help…but the OP referenced a “lack of dimorphic traits” which I took to mean that Adam was a skinny short ugly saint and Caleb was a charismatic but shitty male model. Not ruling out straight up health problems making Adam ugly, either. I suppose if you would prefer a monk son over a shithead deadbeat, it’s fine, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:55 AM
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I’d pick the second option. He’s good looking and more capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:49 AM
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Can’t fix being 5’0” tall with an ugly face and narrow shoulders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:48 AM
1

Inflation is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:44 AM
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I have seen these people in real life. I hung out around a backyard campfire with the colonel. I have seen plenty of fit but short doctors married to medicine. They aren’t socially brilliant humans though. They can’t find dates, although they’re not exactly spergs. Height and physical appearance matter and they matter a lot. I also believe that the average able bodied middle class man could get to the top of Everest if he wanted. I am not joking. So “make a quarter million a year, be built like …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:02 PM
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Got it - but no medical deformity or anything. Also, was it just…understood that you would never have a relationship? Were people uncomfortable if you were anything other than an asexual nun?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:01 PM
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Yeah. Unfortunately short and ugly guys aren’t worthy without truly extraordinary compensation. Think literal multimillionaire brain surgeon; a mere jacked cardiologist is not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:49 PM
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PM me on Discord. You blocked me…I shit you not, mere hours before a female friend told me that she dated a man with achondroplasia. I have receipts and will show you proof. Real talk: you’re probably cooked, try little people conventions. I heard people hooked up lots there but can’t confirm. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:48 PM
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Eh. Is a serious attempt at the top of Everest Herculean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:42 PM
1

What surgery did you get and was it medically necessary? You could have had a shit tier jaw fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:41 PM
2

To dodge CPS start homeschooling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:26 PM
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You just have to be damn near flawless. I have seen cancer patients nearly dead put in concert pianist level social performances. It’s reasonable to expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:19 PM
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You just need to be extremely dedicated and extremely determined. Don’t get plastic surgery. Or do - but you should be the jacked doctor doing the surgery… Unless every word and gesture are flawless you are cooked. Or, you can accept the role of nurse and caregiver for someone twice your size. Good luck. I have seen it done. Once; the guy was a special forces colonel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:07 PM
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Who works as a physician. I suppose that if you haven’t worked as hard as a navy seal since age 11 it’s your fault. Unless you’re making a million a year, built like a Greek god, and socially flawless to the point where the FBI calls YOU and asks for hostage negotiation tips or something…you aren’t good enough. I knew maybe one guy on track to be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:53 PM
2

And if she’s your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:51 PM
1

That’s bullshit. Knew a few sex workers in happy ltrs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:51 PM
4

Guys are lined up to be nurses and caregivers for 600lb single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:50 PM
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I mean…yes, but actual bottom tier women are in group homes and homeless shelters and psych wards, not singles mixers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:48 PM
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That. No polite way to ask: was there anything medically wrong with your face that surgeons fixed later?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:47 PM
3

And so it’s your fault if you’re in a wheelchair and terribly burned: you should have your Nobel already for curing spinal cord injuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:46 PM
2

Haha! Definitely a weirdobitch, probably not a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:49 AM
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I’m still betting on the masculine woman to keep a healthy relationship vs. the moderately functioning BPD woman or something like that, given roughly equal physical appearance…if they’re not obese and both healthy? I’ve seen masculine queer women, some with short hairstyles, in relationships with guys all the time. The mentally ill and unstable ones? Can get a dude easier but can’t keep him. If she’s in progressive queer circles she’s going to be fine. Pretty sure that if Ilona Maher or Mya Les…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:33 AM
3

Young males are notoriously honest about their sexual activity with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:30 AM
3

Even then - it’s not super unusual!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:27 AM
2

It’s the fatness and the kids. If she was single and fit she’d be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:37 PM
2

I’m fairly sure that severe or untreated physical or mental health problems are the biggest thing. An otherwise healthy masculine woman with a crew cut that wants a guy for some reason can still find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:37 PM
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I probably wouldn’t do it even to an absolute garbage human being who probably had it coming. Think someone like Ghislaine Maxwell or something. A human trafficker or something like that. I wouldn’t care much about what happened to her though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:34 PM
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I mean there might have been a bunch of liars in your area, 18 is pretty average
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:32 PM
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600lb women have guys lined up to wipe their asses
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:47 PM
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Mostly true; however women still date convicted sex offenders. His height, discipline, and his skill as a confidence man would mean he had takers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 11:16 PM
2

Tate is still 6’3” and jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:56 PM
1

Would you rather him be a 30yo who’s never kissed anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:40 PM
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Whatever happens, Israel has nukes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:23 PM
2

Yep. Or you accept being single for life because you will be considered predatory and maybe are predatory for dating the women in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:11 AM
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Yep - it’s the least bad option. Heroin addicts and meth heads bring potential legal issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:15 AM
1

He could be ugly autistic or short.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:14 AM
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I mean yeah you run into legal and moral issues with psychotic girlfriends. Morbid obesity is very unlikely to get you killed maimed or jailed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:13 AM
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Also - he needs to be okay with a BMI of 40, 50, 60, even 70. As long as they can do basic hygiene. Even if they can’t - living What’s Eating Gilbert Grape isn’t the worst thing in the world. As for mental health…paranoid schizophrenia and reluctance to take medication might be a justifiable dealbreaker. Mild depression and ADHD isn’t imho. Also, he needs to be more open to things like herpes and HIV; those can be managed fairly well and there’s great treatment and prophylaxis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:11 AM
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Your standards are too high. Obesity is the least bad thing here. Herpes and HIV can both be managed. Major mental health issues are a crapshoot as are addictions…if severe they can make relationships extremely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:08 AM
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I mean, you look mangled and it hurts for months but you’re mostly okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:44 PM
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3) are you Swiss? Have very good friends? 4) No, you don’t get to pick the limb and there is a good chance you will also have chronic pain
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:18 AM
1

Does 4 change if you get moderately severe chronic pain to boot? Also interesting that you’d rather lose a leg (presumably above the knee) than be burned but functional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:16 AM
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I have. Abusive to their children: yes, felony child abuse/attempted murder. To their partners: very nearly killing them and crippling them for life. You see some shit in healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:25 PM
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Yep - it sucks ass although sometimes there are no good options. Faustian bargain for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:24 PM
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A few monkey's paws: You have a normal or average dating life, BUT: You are infected with HIV. You are set on fire; you have third degree burns over 20 percent of your body but mostly recover fully. You are stabbed or shot. 20 percent chance of death, 15 percent chance you're maimed for life, paraplegic or shitting in a bag, 65 percent chance of full recovery. You survive attempted murder, but are crippled for life and lose an arm or leg. Would you take any of these Faustian bargains?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:20 PM
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I mean, if you own the Toastmasters franchise and are a fucking rock star, then maybe...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:14 PM
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Men love bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:48 AM
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OP IS a multimillionaire though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:47 AM
3

Makes sense, some of these assholes are smart
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:15 PM
3

Also, you have a jackass fishing effect where only the biggest assholes catcall or whatever and most guys don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:03 PM
0

Disagree but a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:17 PM
4

No. Taking a shower means not only great personal hygiene but owning a fairly large shower and tub installation company.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:16 PM
2

After working their fucking asses off for as much as ten years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:57 PM
2

Basically homeboy needs to climb Everest. While building some of his own gear. Thankfully there’s YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:56 PM
1

Pay more attention to their social development. Make them believe that they have a duty to be likable and graceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:55 PM
3

C r a w l
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:53 PM
2

Pretty surprising. It’s not unusual for these people to basically be expected to be celibate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:52 PM
1

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:45 PM
2

Eh. You have minority dudes in places where their grandfathers could have been killed for desiring someone of the wrong race…and closeted gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:35 PM
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I mean the only remotely acceptable thing is to have a good reason to be extremely busy and be married to it instead. Lots of short docs married to medicine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:09 PM
3

This
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:07 PM
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Yes. Also, if you really want a relationship what do you think your standards should be? It seems kind of gross and maybe morally suspect for an ugly awkward guy to look for women who have drug problems or serious mental illness or something or are homeless…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:21 PM
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u/barely-moral and his partner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:51 PM
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Eh - hard for a woman to be fit and below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:47 AM
2

Yeah. If being in a relationship is an Everest level challenge for many guys? Buy them mountaineering gear and lessons if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:54 PM
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They don’t want grace and not-nerdishness badly enough unless they are willing to feed the whole family to lions over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:11 PM
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There are a couple ways to instill this. The most palatable is mountaineering or something like it, followed by accepting that some of your kids simply will not make it and fertilizer is better than gracelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:10 PM
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Fine, but he would ideally prefer death to doing his utmost to be graceful. Realistically I need to have some level of legitimacy behind this. If he tells his best friend or his soccer coach or his English teacher and they say I’m garbage it’s going to be hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:09 PM
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They can crawl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:06 PM
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Seems odd, most women have plenty of guys interested and asking them out. Yes, that includes the 300lb single mom working stocking shelves at Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:10 AM
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Yes. Also instill the idea that you have a moral duty to be graceful. And maybe that your parents would rather attend your funeral than see you lack grace.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:48 PM
2

This is when you find the most horrifying and legitimate way you can to scare the living shit out of your child. It’s nasty, but so is making sausage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:47 PM
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It would be interesting if a little horrifying if parents simply accepted that a few funerals were the cost of raising socially graceful children. So what if Braxton catches a bullet and winds up in the hospital: he was wounded in the service of strength and grace and it is honorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:19 PM
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Not unless he considers this a matter of life and death. Not even kidding; if he is THAT strong in his personal convictions that needs to be respected. Willingly being awkward is only slightly better than being fertilizer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:17 PM
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That is gay AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:05 PM
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I’ve seen literal burn victims that looked better than people with BMIs of like 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:48 PM
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Personality: blunt, unfeminine, abrasive, honest. Physical appearance: unruly hair, unshaven legs, no makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 05:29 AM
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I understand and respect your position. Mine is that I’d rather have my ticket to Valhalla punched than become a bears food. I’m not a fighter and am actually fairly timid for what it’s worth; however, there’s a chance the bad guys would get justice. Either at my hands or the law’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:11 PM
1

Disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:27 AM
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Yep. Also in some parts of Christianity there’s the understanding that some people are supposed to be celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:51 AM
1

Ever heard of Daniel Penny? Granted, the weirdo in question didn’t make it and that’s a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:49 AM
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Men like disagreeable blunt bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:42 AM
1

How bad is the alcohol problem? Could be functioning, could be fucking homeless in end stage liver failure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:14 PM
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Yeah, like it’s better to be seven feet tall and a piece of shit than five feet tall and a saint if you want to play in the NBA.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:58 AM
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Eh. Other men often haul them aside and straight up tell them that they’ll never have a relationship and that lots of people will think they’re gross for trying. Some fools don’t listen. It usually ends very badly for them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:54 AM
1

This being said everyone has fewer friends than their parents had when they were their age and their parents had fewer than their grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:23 PM
1

Yeah if you can get fat single moms you’re doing OK tbh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:22 PM
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The average person can hang with Danny MacAskill socially. Their every word and gesture is technically flawless, and they regularly inspire people to endure deep visceral biological disgust to make them happy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:56 PM
1

This is odd. I would think someone hauled Paul’s puny ass aside in college and told him his only hope was gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:48 PM
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Paul is too short and too autistic to ever have a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:47 PM
1

I mean Susan Mary and may all sound great. Hell they all sound like a great idea
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:42 PM
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I don’t quite understand the problem here: as a man, I feel like any date I walk away from in one piece is a good one. Not going for anyone that might get me killed maimed or thrown in jail but past that it’s all good. I accept that it might suck but I don’t care. Could be more prudent to insist on happiness and high standards or bust but that means being ok with being single and celibate for life which is a kind of hard thing to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:11 PM
1

Huh. Would have thought they were just ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:05 PM
1

I thought that this was just how apps worked…average guys were lucky to ever get matches period even with profiles written by the second coming of Shakespeare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:05 PM
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Yeah. Also…and maybe this is just me projecting…but I think most women are disgusted by their partners sexually but endure for companionship money and social status. If women only had sex when aroused most guys would spend long stretches of their lives in celibate marriages and partnerships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:13 AM
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No. You can be a 6, maybe a 7 if you’re lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:09 AM
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Usually? Same sex friends, often a little older, ideally in late adolescence. Yes, men and women, but for different reasons. Guys are creepy and gross, women transgressive and vulnerable to predators. I got the Haul a little late, age 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:08 AM
1

Idk, can he walk a hundred yards without gasping for breath?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:49 AM
2

Never saw this. Male nerds are expected to be single and celibate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:48 AM
2

This sounds batshit insane, these guys get hauled aside and told they’re too awkward to ever have a partner and they’re expected to be celibate for life…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:47 AM
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lol. However our stinking robot man is not likely to be treated kindly by the transit police. If this is at all acceptable in your country he might trip and fall quite a few times on the way to the squad car and that filthy robot might get “lost” in the police evidence locker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:40 AM
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Yeah - that cashes out to two things, maybe more... If we are holding family of origin/SES/trauma constant (a HUGE if) it cashes out to conscientiousness. Which is broken down into two parts: orderliness and industriousness. Yes - an attractive, put together guy could get hit by a car, get brain damage, and then start riding his bike around yelling occasionally-profane rants about the local bus system. However, if you're looking at two guys and one's fat and has bad teeth and the other's fit and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:20 AM
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I mean - I think it is about as difficult as climbing Mt. Everest for the average man to have sex or a relationship with a woman that meets these standards: Age appropriate Holds a job, any job (outside of something like a sheltered workshop) Not a danger to herself or others Not morbidly obese Yes. I think that most guys, certainly most healthy guys between 21 and 45, could make a serious run at Everest if they wanted it as bad as Joe Average wants a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:15 AM
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Yep. Of course there’s plastic surgery. But I’ve seen what happens when unattractive guys try to date. It rarely ends well. Attempted child murder, 500 lb women that can’t walk a hundred yards without using a cane and gasping for breath, shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:31 AM
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Yeah…that must have been hard. Was there anything you did differently because of it? Like if you said you found a celebrity attractive and your friends were uncomfortable or grossed out: what did you do? Did you contribute to conversations like that even though it made people uncomfortable, then pointedly ignore the discomfort?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:27 AM
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Yeah. However - how did you handle looking for a partner when lots of people thought you shouldn’t have one at all, ever? How did you deal with the prejudice people had against you and their being uncomfortable with stuff like you contributing to discussion about attractive celebrities? Also what made you think that you could be in a healthy relationship or that it was at all a realistic goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:13 PM
1

Yeah, religion and being acespec are possibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:52 PM
1

Indeed. A 600 pound woman with four children by four different men can be a better pick than a thin childless woman in some circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:29 PM
1

Yeah. I do wonder though…some have said that asexual people, especially asexual men, are at a distinct disadvantage socially. How does that play out? Are there useful skills that an ace sex repulsed person usually doesn’t get unless he works hard at it and maybe not even then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:33 PM
1

Yep. Some guys? Pretty much everyone will tell them not to try dating. Some gals too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:27 PM
2

How did you deal with desexualization: people thinking it was gross that you even wanted a partner? I’m autistic and have the same issue myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:26 PM
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Yes. Agreed, strongly. I’d even say that Bob is doing much better than him and is quite a bit more attractive. This doesn’t change much if he’s say an engineer in decent but not exceptional shape. Our guy needs to prioritize things like being able to hold a job, not being a danger to herself and others, and doing basic hygiene in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:15 PM
2

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:13 AM
1

And if it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:04 PM
1

Yeah that would probably be a no from me unless she had a bariatric surgeon lined up already…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:04 PM
9

Yep. Maybe by 450lb women barely keeping a roof over their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:12 AM
2

More like Amy slaton minus a hundred pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:11 AM
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Yeah to be honest if she’s not morbidly obese
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:10 AM
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Yeah. He might be autistic and facing desexualization. Dealing with that takes skill and thoughtfulness. Tact, too. Not much out there on dealing with that particular brand of prejudice. He seems to be trying to present as asexual but doing a shitty job of it. Needs more thoughtfulness. 3/10, nice try but it backfired boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:46 AM
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Yeah. Work your ass off. The average person is as dedicated to career and social grace as a medieval European knight or Japanese samurai was to skill at arms. If short or unattractive as a man, decide where you want the ambulances. Do you prefer helping a 450lb wife with her mobility scooter or a 150lb one with her heroin addiction? Or coming home to find your wife tried killing your child? How about being run over by your own pickup truck after your crazy wife lost her shit? Dealer’s choice. La…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:25 PM
1

Yeah. Some people should just be single for life. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t stop working hard
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:54 PM
1

Yeah. Sometimes the crazy chick who maims you for life and almost kills you is your least bad option. Or single motherhood by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:23 AM
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Yeah. Also fugly enough starts shading into disability and then you start having serious legal, moral, and safety risks there. A short awkward ugly AF guy who works at the local hardware store and can manage his own affairs and keep a roof over his head developing a taste for his match might not be a great thing. He might develop a taste for the obese schizophrenic woman who still lives with mom and got out of a forensic psych unit five years ago for nonfatally stabbing her boyfriend in the stom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:03 PM
1

Eh many Bitches are shit tier liars with zero tact
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:47 AM
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Haha the short guys I knew were focused on their careers if middle class or UMC with the associated squeamishness and easy disgust; a couple dated crazy. As in... felony child abuse/attempted murder crazy. The ones that weren't squeamish were with women twice their weight or more...one couldn't even wipe her own butt. The exception is a future brain surgeon with enough charisma for a career in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:36 AM
1

Also impart the idea that they have a moral duty to be graceful and popular. Seems weird but also possibly effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:33 AM
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Eh - I got The Talk from a friend, as a senior in college. We spent an hour walking around talking about it. Friends sometimes do that for one another, although people definitely wondered at the time and after if he was too pessimistic...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:31 AM
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If he's super short is he creepy or gross or anything? I know that there are occasionally some VERY dark suspicions that attach themselves to guys that don't ever date. Let's say there's a reason they avoid kids like the fucking plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:29 AM
1

Most disability is fairly obvious or at least understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:27 AM
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Eh - the aspies could probably understand nuclear physics or literal rocket science easier than relationships!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:23 AM
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Yeah. People like that need to get The Talk from a friend, ideally same sex. They need to be told they aren't dating material and are actually kind of gross for openly wanting to date...yes it is very much not fair but that is the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:22 AM
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Eh. Plenty of autistic tech dudes and Wall Street quants who are able to start seven, eight, sometimes even nine figure businesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:27 PM
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You’re a badass bitch and a bit sensation seeking. You run with people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:14 AM
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No. He’s right. Look up desexualization and disability theory. Quasimodo is considered gross for having a sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:54 PM
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I mean - if you stretch it far enough. You've got some jackasses showing up in your turf with guns and shit trying to use 'em to impose strange laws on your ass. Wouldn't that piss YOU off?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 06:14 AM
2

Yes. This is part of why aristocrats had war as rite of passage. I recommend mountaineering instead. Mountains don’t care. Or lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:23 AM
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I mean. You could wind up being blinded, castrated, and maybe paralyzed by a methodical vengeful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:28 PM
1

Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:29 AM
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Hahahaha no, that’s not what I have seen. Usually it’s short or autistic guys in their 30s with wives their age or at most five years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:27 AM
1

I would say that autism without intellectual disability is about on par with a BMI of somewhere between 50 and 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:24 AM
1

What about guys who want disagreeable bitches?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:21 AM
2

Fuck no. I would probably take up arms if people came here and tried to impose fundamentalist sharia law by force of arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:19 AM
2

Because one person in twenty is just not dating material
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:33 PM
3

Yes. Disability is the biggest cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:32 PM
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There is a sister post here about how there are maybe three to five percent of people are just terrible candidates for relationships and either need LOTS of support and/or to be single and maybe celibate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:31 PM
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I will also add that disgust is one of those things as well; in my limited experience it generally decreases, but you can get new disgust triggers from intense experiences especially in childhood and adolescence. Ask any nurse. They see some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:29 AM
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You could have a vasectomy or tubal ligation. You could choose to be celibate after your third child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:26 AM
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What do you consider an extraordinary sacrifice made by an individual who is not facing extraordinary circumstances like natural disaster or war? What might an extraordinary personal sacrifice look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:24 AM
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Yep. Same holds true for a smaller number of women. It’s why maybe three to five percent of people probably shouldn’t have relationships or if they do they need lots and lots of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:22 AM
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I kind of agree…except that if you have a significant risk of being killed maimed or thrown in jail because of your social circle you need to be fucking careful…the neckbeards, if you’re a guy, smell but you aren’t going to wind up looking at a dead body
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:29 AM
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Eh. I’ve seen more than a few guys that are quite a bit more on the ball career wise than that who have trouble dating. A few physicians, a couple of IT guys winning local powerlifting competitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:20 AM
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I honestly never had that experience…except socially, where the jury is still out. My entire family is autistic. Sure there were plenty of things I didn’t like and wasn’t talented in but if I worked hard I rarely absolutely sucked at it…doomed to be the worst player on the team despite working your ass off and having the heart of a lion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:57 PM
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I recommend mountaineering, once he gets to be a teenager. You NEED grit and often teamwork to make it up a mountain and the danger is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:41 PM
1

Interesting. I would have thought that the best age would be 22 or so. That’s when women set sprinting records and stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:35 PM
4

Indeed - it's basically creepy for us to want sex or relationships, period; we're disabled and it's presumed that we know we're supposed to be celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:08 PM
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Autistic; not short.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:59 PM
1

I've heard about male sex workers that had female clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:45 AM
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I'm autistic; quite a few female friends, never had sex or a relationship. Late 20s, male, average or below average looks. Some people aren't cut out for relationships or intimacy...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:25 AM
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Accept that they will never have a relationship or sex. Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:07 AM
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Also would agree with the general idea that a slighty autistic average guy will have more opportunities than an average short guy. Disagree here. Honestly - given your height I'd expect you to be with a woman twice your weight; given that you're autistic as well I'd think it was over for you unless you were devoutly religious, wealthy, or just super fucking lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:06 AM
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Eh. Lady Gordon Ramsey with a bit of kindness would have lots of guys into her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:14 AM
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"Sounds like you had a good time!" smile and be happy for them. hopefully they're kinda an insatiable bitch - bitch is beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 04:04 AM
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Yeah, where the hell are all these disagreeable women? I’d love to meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:46 AM
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Fair enough - but Bitches are often rather unfeminine as people. Disproportionately queer. A bit of neurodivergence. Usually wonderful people, you know exactly where you stand with a Bitch. Guys love 'em 'cause they're blunt af, honest, often insensitive without malice, and easy to communicate with. Bitches love bluntness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:10 AM
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Abrasive can be nice if it’s combined with caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:27 AM
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Men love bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:25 AM
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Thanks. For what it's worth - Chad is what he is; if every Chad fucked off to the Alaskan wilderness and hunted moose and maybe did some Brokeback Mountain shit, there'd be new guys to fill the now-empty Chad niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:08 PM
0

What does “bitch” mean to you? Disagreeable woman who doesn’t perform her gender well?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:30 PM
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I adore Bitches (in the bitch manifesto sense). Men love Bitches because they’re competent, self assured, and honest: you know where you stand with a Bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:29 PM
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Where can you find these groups? I didn’t think they existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:16 PM
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I like the hairy aesthetic. The personality attached is usually cool af
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:10 AM
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Polar bears hunt people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:36 PM
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Being a fucking slave seems worse than one instance of being assraped by Shaq.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:34 PM
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It’s probably about the same tbh depending on injury severity. If I’m killed as well then I’d rather be raped by bubba. I can always pull a murder suicide after if I can’t hack it and also rip asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:33 PM
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Die fighting a rapist, sure - I came to that conclusion age 10. Thankfully I didn’t need to test it. Straight up eat a bullet? No. Rather get raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:32 PM
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I’d rather get raped by Bubba than mauled by a bear tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:31 PM
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POLAR bears are like living with dumb maximum security prisoners or something, not normal guys. These fuckers see humans as food!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:29 PM
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Yeah. IMHO black bear > man > grizzly bear >> polar bear. Polar bears will straight up hunt your ass for food. Grizzlies may or may not. Black bears are cowardly and can be run off with harsh language.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:25 PM
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Yeah. In high school for some reason it’s always the Honors English teachers that are assholes. Most of the rest were okay to excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:25 PM
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Or from a tropical climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:20 PM
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I think he just runs cold especially if he’s from a tropical climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:18 PM
1

A neck tattooed blue haired ibanker is either benefiting from nepotism or a badass
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:23 AM
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If you like feminist self described bitches go for obgyn
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:22 AM
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Autistic, a big ego that was warranted, and blunt?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:20 AM
1

That’s insane. Iirc there are more cisgender women working as boilermakers and iron workers!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:20 AM
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Cool. Especially if she’s a decent human being who’s not on meth and won’t divorce me and then look the other way when her new boyfriend rapes the kids or something
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:39 AM
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Yeah. I bet that the male math teachers are spergy guys that have math degrees and for whatever reason they chose teaching instead of engineering…there is a big shortage of math teachers in America 🇺🇸 and so a sperg with a math teaching degree and a pulse is getting hired somewhere. I honestly suspect first guy will learn and have his stuff together but second guy…good fucking luck. He will need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:38 AM
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Really, but I’m short and not very attractive and on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:56 AM
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In your time was it still very much a thing that women had lots of difficulty in careers other than teaching or nursing? That could have meant that the women who are now doctors and lawyers instead went into teaching…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:45 AM
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He should probably simply just write off dating and be celibate for life unless he is insanely remarkable or famous. The kinds of homeless drug addicted women he can get as a fit white collar guy with one hand are simply not worth it. They may cost him his career, his freedom, or even his life!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:38 AM
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Idk man. I could see myself doing that as a 35yo doctor if she could theoretically hold a job and wasn’t a terrible person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:10 AM
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How long were you out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:25 PM
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If it gives me wisdom fine. Idgaf. It’s just a painful medical procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:59 PM
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Respect
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:57 PM
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I suggest dumping them into the Alaskan wilderness in winter with the survival gear of their choosing. If they get back to civilization they’re tough enough. Thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:55 PM
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Maybe it’s a good thing that some guys decide to end it. At least if they don’t have families yet. Weeds out the weak. Be good if you could send them to war as cannon fodder tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:01 PM
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Both get guys killed. I saw plenty of tough combat veterans killed more or less by moral injury.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:00 PM
1

Send em to war or dump em in the Alaskan wilderness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:02 AM
1

What if he MADE the suit from whole cloth and is putting himself through college by making $10,000 bespoke suits?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:58 AM
1

Aren’t you bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:57 AM
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Yep. That means that you are a decently fit and preferably larger than average man. Also not hypermobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:59 PM
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I mean - autistic guy here; seems pretty fair that we’re expected to be celibate for life unless we’re remarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:55 PM
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You’re a tall surgeon. Go for an ob/gyn? More caring than many surgeons but also ambitious and intense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:50 AM
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You can also be the type of person who is a great friend and terrible partner. Usually this is due to personality or perhaps health issues or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:49 AM
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He was also quite unattractive, although average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:48 AM
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Yeah. It changes if you are talking about 0s and 1s but seriously, what is anyone that has a job doing spending much time around people like this? You have some pretty serious physical and mental health issues there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:48 AM
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Eh. Alopecia universalis is only a minor ding. Also: is our $100k guy 16, 26, or 36?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:29 PM
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Yep. If you want something above average you need to be either lucky or extremely determined. Gentlemen: can you get through Special Forces selection? Climb Everest (solo, or maybe with your friends but no Sherpas)? No? Not fit and determined enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:34 AM
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Yep. Beds are nice. So is camping. Shit tier motels are worse than either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:03 PM
1

I know her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:01 PM
1

I mean the travel is suspicious but if he’s a software engineer type? I’m leaning towards autism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:48 AM
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This is called “autism”; lots of these people in Silicon Valley
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:53 AM
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Ralph Nader, anyone? I think he’s either gay and celibate or extremely closeted, or asexual. Maybe he’s evil but if he is he’s insanely good at hiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:53 AM
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Does that change if he’s a doctor who likes working in remote areas, sometimes for the high salary and other times for Doctors Without Borders, and is mostly married to medicine? Maybe he’s a virgin like Ralph Nader…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:51 AM
1

He could just be 5’3”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:01 AM
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West Virginia wanted loyalty and mutual support. Also kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:59 AM
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I knew a guy who would have gone for that. West Virginia redneck made good and went to Harvard, where he was a fratboy and about as chaste and virginal as you would expect your typical fratboy to be. He was straight as an arrow and seriously considered an open marriage with another man; they could have sex with women on the side but not leave each other. I honestly don’t think that is too sad; if I had to guess it is a good idea for one or two percent of men and twice as many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 07:40 PM
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I mean. If you are lucky to get a woman twice your weight and aren’t into morbid obesity and bariatric wheelchairs it might be a decent deal. You get mutual support and don’t need to be a nurse and caretaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:19 PM
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Idk how you feel about marrying someone you aren’t having sex with for mutual support and tax purposes but you could live with your best friend and everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:14 PM
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It’s a little exaggerated but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:05 PM
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Eh…more like a lot of pressure to mask and a lot of predator abuse early on. High functioning autistic women aren’t necessarily seen as gross imo but definitely often bitchy/crazy/weird/BPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:51 AM
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I mean they just expect us to be celibate for life, which isn’t too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:49 AM
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Sir, you are most likely doomed. Consider a lifelong partnership with another autistic man. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:19 AM
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I mean. If you are 5’3” and your only options in America are literal meth addicts and 500lb single mothers on disability: do you expect our 5’3” lawyer to date a meth head? A heroin addict? Be celibate for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:00 PM
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Yeah. That’s pretty sad: before, it was just Sheldon Cooper. Now you have fairly impaired people in the same building although usually different classes. Like intellectually disabled rocking back and forth and constantly talking about racecars.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:04 PM
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Maybe not severely. But being single for life is probably his best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:38 AM
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Yes. But twenty or thirty years ago these would just have been “nerds”…awkward with unusual sensory issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:11 AM
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Yeah. Honestly he should simply plan on being single for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:10 AM
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Yep. Unironically probably easier for autistic guys to climb Everest than date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:09 AM
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I mean - women are the only ones that get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:11 PM
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Yep. You need to either be a member of a devoutly religious community or have enough charisma for a career in politics plus a million a year if you are 5’4 or shorter as a man. Otherwise I advise lifelong celibacy; the alternatives are far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:48 PM
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There ARE also people that got garbage hands. Sometimes that’s bad luck other times the system sucks ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:41 PM
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Men love bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:06 AM
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Yeah. I knew a guy who stayed with his wife even though she tried to kill their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:05 AM
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Are you okay being single for life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:50 PM
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Makes sense. Also - might be a good idea to instill the idea that your child has a moral duty to be graceful and popular. Not doing so - as weird and nuts as this may sound - gets people hospitalized. Awkward, graceless, isolated people are damned attractive to predators and if you're not looking to be celibate for life that means that you and your loved ones are at risk. I've seen the wreckage in the ER. It's not pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:18 PM
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Many guys are OK with 400lb single moms and women who don't work and have drug problems. These are often decently hardworking tradesmen and sometimes white collar dudes although the office workers usually prefer to be "focused on their careers"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:07 PM
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I've seen short guys built like literal Greek Gods be living What's Eating Gilbert Grape and worse. One of 'em was a Navy SEAL officer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:06 PM
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I mean, we kinda already do that to unattractive people already but through social shaming - we expect them to be celibate for life and dedicate their lives to something prosocial. Which is fine - just be a bit more upfront for the spergs; they get a bit angry when they can't pick up the hints.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:05 PM
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I like B’s aesthetic. Unshaven and frizzy haired.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:13 PM
2

So some guys get sprained ankles and experienced women are hiring a bunch of noob brawn and watching these unskilled grunts like hawks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:17 PM
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This would be fucking awesome; I'm in! We would gain a LOT of wisdom as a species. Especially if something like this happened say every fifty years or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:11 AM
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Yes, it would be the equivalent of sending a shitload of clumsy untrained guys to do heavy labor. You're running a construction site with nothing but noobs and some veterans advising and helping. Running an oil rig? Nothing but noobs. Noobs to the right of us, noobs to the left of us, noobs all around us. I imagine after the first few dead and maimed noobs they would do things by the book. Also, the men now in women's bodies would still own the construction companies and would just be hiring dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:10 AM
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The males with female bodies would be some damned interesting criminals. Would we have a bunch of women beating and robbing each other as criminal gangs became all-female?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:06 AM
1

Still down for the swap. Would give me lots of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:04 AM
1

jfc just go fistfight another woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:03 AM
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I mean, there's women's MMA and boxing and whatnot. If you really wanted you could probably have a bare-knuckle backyard fistfight with another woman, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:02 AM
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This was terrible luck, more or less. That the punch happened in a parking lot was significant. The guy probably hit his head on the ground after being knocked out and that was what killed him, not the punch...if this had happened on grass your dad's colleague would probably still be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:01 AM
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Perhaps; however, I think that most would survive and adapt. It can't be any worse than stuff like being a paraplegic. And they know it's only a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:00 AM
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Yeah, the workplace accident rate skyrockets because you now basically have a bunch of clumsy noobs being brought on to your oil rigs and shit. Criminals might go for our noob women, or our noob men, for different reasons. But also they're unpredictable and some of 'em might go for broke or something. Remember also that most of the violent criminals...are dudes, and when they're now women they aren't as physically able to prey on people. It'd be an epic free-for-all. IDK what ultimately happens.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:59 AM
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Mildly to moderately for most. There's a shitload of guys living with chronic pain and crap like that. These dudes are okay-ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:55 AM
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Assuming supply chains and shit worked fine? I'd say 98-99 percent of Westerners would make it. It would be one hell of a ride and a unique experience. I'm down. Would make me wiser.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:54 AM
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If it was done by some asshole aliens that just rocked up, did that, and left? Yeah - many people would be pissed and whatnot but I don't think the mortality rate would be THAT high. Maybe five or ten percent, tops, and most of that caused by supply chain disruptions and a shitload of untrained noobs in industries that require strong men. Even then, you'd have veteran like oil rig women coaching n00b dudes on how to do the job or something. Shit'd get done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:53 AM
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I think that if some sci-fi medical technology enabled it and it was available for a few days' wages...it would honestly be a great rite of passage for young people. Spend a year as the opposite sex. Maybe do it freshman or sophomore year of college or something. We'd be a hell of a lot wiser as a species. Also, RIP gender dysphoria.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:51 AM
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I saw the post. Add a hundred pounds and you would be close to accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:30 PM
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Yep. It’s why short guys are usually enablers of one type or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:34 PM
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Eh. If you’re a short guy you need to be a charismatic brain surgeon unless you want women twice your weight. Being jacked isn’t enough. You need to be remarkable or be okay with nursing and caretaking at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:34 PM
1

Idk. I’d like to give something to any kids my sister has even if I wind up being single for life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:36 PM
1

There’s probably some fit tall jacked guy who is asexual. Ralph Nader, maybe, although he may be gay and extremely deep in the closet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:31 PM
1

Romance without sex, for mutual support and tax purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:30 PM
3

I can respect that position even if I disagree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:19 AM
4

Interesting. Is it more admirable to be celibate for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:25 AM
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Yep. At 28 being well ahead of the game is owning a property.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:04 PM
1

Mutually assured destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:34 AM
1

I don’t find that to be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:27 AM
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Did you ever deal with disgusting things for a living? Especially moral disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:57 AM
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I’m not at all attractive and would be okay with someone that I found vaguely disgusting and who I knew was using me as atm
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:56 AM
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Be okay with what you can get or accept being single for life
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:51 AM
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I like self described bitches. They are fucking awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:34 AM
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You’re the Muggsy Bogues of dating. I wonder how well you would have done in politics if you were a foot taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:11 PM
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I knew a few women that were like that. Highly orgasmic. Could get off by accident riding a bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:10 PM
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I have seen about ten short guys. Five are focused on their careers. Three are dating women twice their weight; one of these women is too large to wipe her own butt. One, a literal future brain surgeon with enough charisma for a career in politics, is with someone who is both sane and attractive. And I’ve saved the best for last: the last dude, a Navy SEAL colonel, married a pretty woman that was a terrible person. Felony child abuse terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:51 PM
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Haha well. Someone that could legally consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:40 AM
1

Where did you look, homeless shelters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:19 AM
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He needs to look in nursing homes for 600 pound women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:18 AM
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Yep. Short guys either are alone or with addicts of one kind or another
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:18 AM
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Eh. You have no idea what is happening behind closed doors
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:16 AM
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He needs at least a million a year and enough charisma for a career in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:16 AM
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A million a year is needed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:12 AM
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Yep. Short guys get to be with 500lb women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:11 AM
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Haven’t had that in years lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:11 AM
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I don’t think I could!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:11 AM
2

Live hand grenades are a decent self defense weapon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:02 AM
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Panhandler, no...but if they're a busker, and they're good...that changes things quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:27 PM
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I mean...Muggsy Bogues. Guy was a 5'3" NBA player. I mean, if you think hiring hookers is fine, either on a short term or long term basis, fine. But the kind of partners autistic dudes end up with are usually terrible human beings. What's Eating Gilbert Grape was one of the better things I saw. "Attempted child murder" and "running over your husband with a pickup truck while high on PCP" are the belt holders. Unless every word and gesture are every bit as graceful as a concert pianist...if you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:32 AM
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Well. I'm several inches shorter than you. I'd be absolutely shocked if anyone was ever interested in me: everything I say and do is a little bit off, weird, or gross. I see myself as a walking ATM at best - I'm a medical student - and as a punching bag, nurse, caretaker, and knife and bullet sponge at worst. The things I know and my hobbies are, in my opinion, immaterial given that I'm on the spectrum, shorter than average, and bald to boot. That's a hell of a hard sell, and if you're trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 09:28 PM
3

How tall are you, and at the risk of sounding like a huge asshole what made you think anyone would ever be interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:49 PM
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If you are on the spectrum: you offend people no matter what you do. Instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:47 PM
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What is predatory about going out drinking with women you sleep with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:43 PM
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Okay, she’s pretty. But also a piece of shit that pulls crap like beating your kids and turning the heat off in their rooms in winter and trying to kill them once or twice. How about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:49 PM
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How about a 500lb woman, or a drug addict that almost kills her husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:43 PM
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Got it. So if she wants me to be a member of the Greater Omaha Fly Fishing Club...and she's a member as well...no can do. that kinda puts a damper on things for networking and stuff. This is a cool but ultimately relatively useless macguffin. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 11:59 PM
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Fair enough - some people go to the crossroads and make the deal with the Devil. Just know what you're getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 11:56 PM
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Would you rather have been celibate your entire life...or have access to this app, under the conditions described above? Partners of your preferred sex/gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 11:52 PM
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I'm a 28-year-old virgin. Unlike you (probably), I've spent quite a bit of time working in the healthcare field. You seem to have no idea how bad shitty relationships can be. The bottom five percent of people? When they get in relationships, they are very often chumps and assholes flailing away at each other. EMTs and doctors often pick up the pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 11:49 PM
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Hmm. Say she introduces me to a gathering or social scene she and her friends frequent on date 6. I break it off with her on date 7; can I keep attending these gatherings or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 11:47 PM
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This seems interesting. Pulling some numbers from my ass...a thousand or so? I wonder if the rules can be bent...if our sixth date is a three-day-long music festival, what does that count as? Twelve dates is a short time to figure out if you want to marry someone - but this seems like by far my best option. There's got to be some additional benefits from this like networking as well...maybe one of my dates knows someone useful, maybe one of them is very well connected and can introduce me to lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 11:46 PM
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Six hundred pound women have guys lined up to date and marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:57 PM
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Bro. 600lb women in nursing homes have guys lined up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:53 PM
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Would you rather be single and celibate the rest of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:43 PM
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Not disproportionate. Tell it to a judge and jury.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:28 AM
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My father was always uncomfortable taking us to the local playground.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:47 AM
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That gets you escorted off the premises. Maybe in handcuffs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:45 AM
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Eh. Guys will line up for a 600lb woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:46 PM
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I’m glad your sister is still alive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:57 PM
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Looking like you can compete in amateur physique bodybuilding contests isn't enough there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:09 AM
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> In many cases they can’t date each other. The bar can only go so low, even when one doesn't meet it themselves. This is true - but the bar is a lot lower than 'obese, even morbidly obese, but holds a job and can keep a roof over their head and manage their own affairs'. It is very debatable whether a meth-using hobo is better off because they're in a relationship with another meth-using hobo. I think around five percent of people are terrible candidates for relationships. More than half of tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:08 AM
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Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:22 AM
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That’s what you get if you’re on the spectrum. Where do you want the ambulances? Guys, you get to ride shotgun. Ladies, you are the patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:27 PM
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If you are the average person you are every bit as good at social interaction as the average Mongol horseman in 1300 AD was at mounted archery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:26 PM
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Honestly he needs to get a big freezer and start buying entire cows. I’m guessing this carnivore is going through maybe five to ten pounds of meat a day, which is a $4k cow every two or three months.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:17 PM
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In burgerland you can barely even get a live cow for that let alone butchered…you’re looking at $3-4k for a butchered cow. Guy’s still going through half a cow a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:15 PM
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Homeboy is planning to go under the knife.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:06 PM
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He might just be 5’4”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:02 PM
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I mean, for fuck's sake...maybe you're awkward or weird or ugly and a bit of extra lift-giving and junk-hauling is the "rent" you pay for being included in that particular friendship group of people who are, by and large, more graceful or normal-seeming or attractive than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 07:49 PM
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The rich and the poor are similar in some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:54 AM
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I can’t get enough of insensitive disagreeable bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:55 PM
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Yep. Women like that seem to date either abrasive intense guys, soft dudes, or other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:34 PM
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Many men like bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:32 PM
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Eh men love disagreeable bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:31 PM
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Also, malnutrition was a thing then. Taller soldiers were less likely to be malnourished. That meant they were healthier and probably smarter. I wonder what Vietnam casualties looked like…that was an era when most people, even most conscripts, got enough to eat. Also the last war in the US where they just rounded up a bunch of conscripts
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 07:05 AM
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I don’t know, but there’s a reason why the market isn’t large…nobody really wants a lot of that in their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:51 PM
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Political betting isn’t legal in America; also there’s the possibility, if the sums at stake get large enough, for ‘natural causes’ to be anything but. Betrayal and corrupt Doctors sounds like a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 11:32 PM
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Yeah. In my opinion: every single word and gesture must be perfect or close to it. You should be able to put in the social equivalent of a concert pianist level performance, or close to it, while literally dying of cancer. I have seen people do this. From hospital beds! This kind of skill and determination is table stakes for most of the guys here on PPD…they’re not worth tens of millions in their twenties, they’re not being scouted by modeling agencies, they’re not part of tightly knit religiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:54 PM
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Learn to read lips.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:27 PM
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Where might those places be?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:23 PM
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Unattractive enough and you can get ethical and even legal issues. Is it rape if you fuck that homeless schizophrenic woman that thinks she’s going to marry Elon Musk and that she has a chip in her brain?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:22 PM
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Nothing wrong with that. I’m guessing some burn victims are deeply cynical and depressed; they might appreciate you. Maybe they’d feel you only wanted one thing and that with a paper bag over her head though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:18 PM
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Think of the incredibly athletic guy: what was his upbringing like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:44 PM
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Yes. Like being a fit charismatic literal brain surgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:40 PM
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5’4” is NOT average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:48 AM
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Yes. And accept the role of nurse and caretaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:44 AM
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Haha no. They certainly get more play than your average middle class guy would suspect. But they’re also doing some sketchy things. She’s just out of the psych ward for a psychotic break due to mania? She’s living in the halfway house due to addiction? Our felon is down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:43 AM
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Bullshit unless a 5’4 guys match weighs 400 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:41 AM
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Yep. Like some people learn about engineering or programming or medicine in elementary school at their parents’ knees. If you aren’t that and aren’t talented, it’s a Mt. Everest size uphill battle. Good luck. Mountaineering supply store is that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:32 AM
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Aren’t you bi yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:13 PM
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Yeah. Odds are she is either traumatized desperate or weird as all hell. The latter…she might be a weird autist trying to put herself through MIT or something lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:26 AM
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Unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:24 AM
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For the right price in the right circumstances I’d buy it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:23 AM
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I’d be surprised about my mom (wtf mom. granny porn? why?!) sister a bit less but still a bit. Some female friends I’d find it par for the course, others I’d be surprised by…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:23 AM
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I would have happily accepted a garbage man summer job as a teenager and consider it honorable work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:21 AM
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I would just hope they were okay and understood the risks. I mean…my parents were a little overprotective of my sister and a close friend and I discussed the possibility of her either stripping or doing onlyfans at length as an escape method or threat. I didn’t mind: it’s just risky somewhat nasty shit and I was raised by a military officer dad who didn’t shelter me at all in that way. Plus, I was a medical student. I had seen some shit, literal, preserved, and figurative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:20 AM
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Yeah. It’s the pathologists and IT guys and actuaries that are basically our autistic monks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:17 AM
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No. This guy is getting at something: look up desexualization in the disability theorist sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:16 AM
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This…I mean there’s definitely people who are cut out for that lifestyle but it’s a pretty damn small percentage of the population. I suspect a lot of them are autistic. Maybe one percent or so. I guess that if you freely choose to have triple digits then you are part of that group. Whatever. I also think that women especially want a caste of celibate men and that this isn’t a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:15 AM
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I’m not sure a single mother would go for this guy unless he does something…murky like pluck her out of a homeless shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:59 PM
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Can I PM you some pictures? Idk if im ugly or not; I think im below average but not uggo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:12 PM
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Lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:48 PM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:48 PM
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I don’t know. I think smoking reduces HEALTHspan which is a problem…if smoking means that generally speaking you die of lung cancer at 75 instead of dementia at 82 sure, I’ll smoke.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:46 PM
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Most women find their partners disgusting, news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:30 PM
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Eh. It’s only as hard as climbing Mt. Everest in my opinion. Most of the blackpillers here making six figures USD or better could at least make a serious summit bid or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:42 PM
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A hell of a lot of them would be thrilled. Many would be pretty happy. I suppose I would simply invest in a helmet and motorcycle leathers. Where do you want the ambulances?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:07 PM
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Yeah. My viewpoint changed drastically: instead of what most considered a happy relationship, I just wanted to be in one piece breathing free air. Hell is pretty this time of year
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:45 PM
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too chickenshit to go under the knife Just man up and go to a Hollywood tier surgeon. If I can climb mountains in the dead of winter, alone, to become slightly more attractive...you can get plastic surgery bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:01 AM
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Just get plastic surgery my dude. You can afford the best surgeons in the world. Or a Hollywood-tier personal trainer and a physician that'll diagnose you with "low testosterone" and prescribe you 'roids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:44 AM
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Gang leaders and warlords get laid like tile. Six figures is peasant tier - John McCain was right. You're not rich unless you're earning five million a year at least. If you have to work for a living, you're a peasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:42 AM
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Yep. Shit requires competence; that's the 'mastermind' part. If you're that good - the evil is beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:50 PM
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The doc could be a short resident and the NEET reasonably put together but doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:45 PM
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I’m guessing if she can’t hold a job or manage her own affairs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:43 PM
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OP referenced her NEET cousin dating a doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:43 PM
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A damn housecat isn't nearly as dangerous as a remotely healthy human...in a fight to the death between a 50yo woman and a housecat I ain't betting on the housecat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:17 AM
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Here's my shot at describing that guy... William is 23. His voice is not only well modulated but sounds somewhat upper class - as if his family had paid for him to either attend expensive private schools or for him to have formal lessons in elocution and voice at an early age. His eye contact is always appropriate...extremely graceful, even cultivated, but always seeming as if he genuinely cares about you. His laugh is genuine, pleasant-seeming, and nice to listen to. He has a full head of hair.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:33 AM
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Yeah. Now...someone like El Chapo or Vladimir Putin? A horse of a different color...although there might be quite a bit of intimidation there. How would you feel about a request from Al Capone at the height of his power in Chicago? Also: what if Chalamet was as charismatic as he was good-looking? The kind of guy who could persuade a dozen strangers to spend six months in jail with him in the interests of justice...like William Penn did in the 17th century.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:16 AM
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Yeah - my great grandfather’s tools have heavier heads and often thicker handles than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:20 PM
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Yes. I’d like you to describe that guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:03 PM
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I knew someone similar. Average physically, extremely caring and extremely insensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:47 PM
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Yeah. There’s straight poly people that do it successfully but these seem to be almost universally both weird and conscientious people. Such people can get lots of weird bullshit garbage to not fail. I swear to god they could probably find a way to replace the driveshaft of their car with alligator skins and some other bullshit and make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:46 AM
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Just barely attractive enough for people to not be openly disgusted that I even have a sexuality in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:16 AM
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They lack the willingness to accept that maybe one day all their friends will see they have accepted the most fun they are getting is a fat girl or a black girl or a crazy girl or a slutty girl or whatever and now she's their girlfriend. You also have some kind of tricky moral things going on here especially if you want kids...there's a world of difference between a 250lb girlfriend that works a job and does basic hygeine and a 650lb girlfriend on oxygen at 37 who's damn near bedbound. There's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:03 AM
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Yeah. I think that it can work if you and your partners are all the same sex. Gay guys seem to do an OK job of it if you're leaving the STDs aside, and lesbians seem to be making it work without that many meat-cleaver-related incidents. If you're straight...good fucking luck to you brother. You're going mountaineering. With homemade gear. You just might be able to pull it off - there's people that've actually done shit like this - but you're gonna need to work damned hard and be damned careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:58 AM
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I would suggest that he begin by dropping his standards to anyone who is safe to date and doesn't absolutely revolt him I would agree on this as a good start; even these may need to be adjusted a little bit. Something more like "Will his friends think he is evil - not desperate, just evil" and "Is he likely to be killed, maimed, or thrown in jail by dating this person"...Eugenia Cooney, Amberlynn Reid, and that woman who cajoled her boyfriend into staying in that exhaust-filled car are all fine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:56 AM
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The woman being able to have hookups or become a prostitute doesn’t really impact how you split your bills or chores… Devil's advocate: her BATNA is far better than his; therefore she's got more leverage and bargaining power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:47 PM
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Eh...I think that most men can and do reach that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:46 PM
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Being a millionaire is table stakes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:33 PM
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Yep - he needs to be damn near as graceful as a concert pianist; a single hair out of place, even the suggestion that there might be a hair out of place, and he’s done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:32 PM
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Most women are disgusted by their partners...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:04 PM
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I’ve seen people fucked up pretty damned bad by “consolation prizes”…have fun figuring out what to do after your partner tried killing your child
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:29 AM
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This really depends. Medical doctors are considered sexy by some; if he was in the top 20 percent of his college class he could probably have become a doctor instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:27 AM
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It is also possible - although not super common - that the victim is just a persistent autist or even a bit of a jackass. A guy who would be a bully, except he is too small or weak or awkward to bully effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:14 PM
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When do I get the money and can I borrow against it? What happens if I fail?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:11 PM
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Is 1. from the northeast US?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:27 PM
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Or how much they love bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:26 PM
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Would you consider a relatively desperate but somewhat conscientious man who knows damn well that "I'll take anyone" might get him killed, maimed, or thrown in jail...and has standards that cash out to "Can legally consent; no drug addicts" a dumbass? He's OK with a substantial risk of being killed or maimed by his hookup or partner, but not with hard time for bullshit like a heroin overdose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:02 PM
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Does that "I'll take anyone" include people that can't legally consent? The intellectually disabled?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:57 PM
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If a guy is saying he would "take anyone" well Eugenia Cooney is someone isn't she? Amber Heard is someone. That chick who persuaded her boyfriend to get back in his carbon monoxide filled car and die is someone. Yes. If it's casual sex, I am personally down with that. Even for a medium-term relationship, although probably not for a life partner. As a man with considerable experience in healthcare, I think that I know more than the average dumbass about just what kind of crap that people generat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:55 PM
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Yes. I will agree with that. ​ I wonder if men's greater physical strength means that the guys who have really thought through what "I'll take anyone" really means are actually OK with it. Like an unemployed homeless schizophrenic 55 year old woman who recently got out of the state psychiatric hospital for shooting her last boyfriend (who thankfully survived). And they accept that they might wind up dead, maimed, maybe in jail because consent is murky in these situations. ​ There were also - in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:49 PM
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Yeah: that’s illegal and immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:02 AM
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Henry can bench 315. I can’t. I’m a nicer guy than Henry. What’s up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:56 AM
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I’d buy your book or your Substack. Also the wheels fall off the Range Rover and they have an annoying tendency to catch fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:52 AM
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Henry is a con man and his bullshit is more appealing than the struggling dude’s truth. At first. It would be ridiculous to say the same if Henry was an excellent basketball player or a fast runner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:47 AM
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I knew one woman like that - but she was quite an unusual person in many ways. I think it is difficult but possible to be a good friend but a (generally speaking) bad partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:57 PM
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American physicians: scoundrels all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:27 AM
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Binders?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:56 AM
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provide the option of a service less centred around profit I kind of like this. and more centred around creating good matches Agreed here. and helping the RMP clear Very debatable whether this is a good thing or not, to be honest...on the one hand you've got manipulation by the likes of Bezos, Zuckerberg, TikTok (and the CCP) and on the other, you've got the State.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:22 AM
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Yep! Tools are also too big for you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:52 PM
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I personally can’t get enough of them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:30 PM
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Yep. You are…poly ought to be compared to sewing your own custom mountaineering gear. It may make sense for some people. However. You had better be goddamn careful and do your homework. Good luck, brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:26 PM
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They like relationships with them too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:54 AM
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Yep. You know exactly where you stand with a Bitch!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:54 PM
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Especially if you are both caring and a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:53 PM
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Eh. A lot of us like the disagreeable bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:51 PM
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And the insensitivity and honesty. You know exactly where you stand with a bitch!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:49 PM
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I've never had a relationship... but I'd love one with a Bitch! I have a lot of bitch friends and they're the fucking best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:45 PM
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LOL - I was always into thinner Bitches, but like the aesthetic and personality. Unyielding, honest, ambitious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:05 AM
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I can't get enough of self-described bitches - blunt, abrasive, insensitive, forthright.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:04 AM
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Mine too - men love bitches. aggressive abrasive ambitious women do okay in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:03 AM
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And you know EXACTLY where you stand with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:02 AM
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Bitches are also blunt, aggressive, honest, competitive, and intense. If they're also kind...I personally can't get enough of Bitches, they're the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:02 AM
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Yep. You also know exactly where you stand with a Bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:57 AM
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Also - abrasive, aggressive, disagreeable women can often be kind people. Picture Gordon Ramsey in a dress. And yeah - it brings attention, being controversial and confrontational.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:57 AM
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There are also plenty of guys who know damn well they're basically riding a sled down a steep-ass mountain and it's only a matter of time before they go ass over teakettle, potentially impacting trees and rocks on the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:52 AM
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No shit Sherlock. Can’t blame em. Would you do any differently?!
/r/BlackPillScience10/01/24 09:10 PM
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I wonder if an effort post on desexualization would be appreciated here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:24 PM
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I’m not sure it would be legal or ethical for most autistic guys to date their match…having a job and being able to manage their own affairs are pretty high standards for autistic guys. If they’re lucky they might get to enable drug addicts or something. At best it’s ethically murky and that’s being extremely charitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:22 PM
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You might be polarizing...which is almost as impactful as being extremely attractive. If a quarter of people think you could be a model and a quarter think you're average or a bit below, and the other half of people figure you're above average...you might have many of the perks (and downsides!) of being super hot. I've heard that it can be an alienating experience and even a lonely one - just like being extremely wealthy (so I've heard) can be a lonely and dangerous experience, surrounded by cro…
/r/BlackPillScience28/12/23 08:11 PM
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MAYBE in the modern west; you also have poverty which might be considered a kind of I’ll health and if you add that in…okay, I can buy it
/r/BlackPillScience28/12/23 02:24 AM
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It’s a MULTIPLIER. 1.5 x Jackshit is still jackshit.
/r/BlackPillScience28/12/23 02:23 AM
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I am sorry to hear. Are you exceptionally attractive? That, as I understand it, can be an alienating experience that has its downsides. Hopefully you have people around you who will be honest with you. Good luck with everything!
/r/BlackPillScience28/12/23 02:22 AM
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I don't see it as being that bad - if I was a woman, I might be the patient in that ambulance instead of getting to ride shotgun or follow the ambulance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:23 AM
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I will amend that to say that most of them choose to be single for life rather than living What's Eating Gilbert Grape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:23 AM
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Maybe...just maybe...a relationship with a woman that develops a nasty drug habit age 40 and runs you over with a big pickup truck when you are both 45, leaving you a crippled father of three children...is better than lifelong celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:56 PM
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social situations in which charm is not the main necessary skill. That is surprising - I didn't think that these even existed. I can't imagine any social situation where charm isn't the main necessary skill. Even something like a volunteer firefighting unit...you could be the most competent firefighter at the station by a gigantic margin and if you're not charismatic you'll be tolerated by the other firefighters. Not liked. Not appreciated. Just tolerated. Until and unless literally every word a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:54 PM
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Yep. Hell - I'd argue that it is entirely reasonable to expect men to be closing in on professional-level fashion and social grace plus be as caring as saints and martyrs. That's table stakes: I've known of people that rejected people at interviews because they didn't like the shirt they were wearing. Be able to hang with the pros or GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:46 PM
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5'4" guys are that - unless they're really remarkable people or get their legs lengthened most will be single for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:45 PM
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Professionals haven't been able to tell me what it is - but I see the microexpressions of disgust on their faces. I open my mouth to speak, say "Hi. I'm SkookumTree" and before I even say my name: there it is. Disgust. Contempt. No, it probably isn't the way I dress; I've gotten compliments on my fashion sense before. I suppose I could hire a stylist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:40 PM
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I mean, my flair used to be "Where do you want the ambulances"; as an extremely unattractive man, I'm just grateful that unlike my female counterparts I'm more likely to be riding shotgun in the ambulance rather than being the patient! People get used to disgusting things, and I kind of suspect that guys like me are basically a kind of cannon fodder: a combination nurse, caretaker, social worker...and knife and bullet sponge, when it comes down to it, sometimes. You need to be charismatic enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:38 PM
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People don't want to date partners they feel no attraction or zero interest to. I have come to expect to be disgusted by my partner, but be with them anyway. People will be secretly disgusted that my every word and gesture aren't as graceful as a professional performer's - so why should I be hypocritical and insist on someone I'm not grossed out by? A smile a half a second too long can make you disgusting on a visceral, biological level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:21 PM
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I mean. I offend people simply by existing, and I really do think the average person could give professionals a run for their money socially - they simply choose not to the same way the guy that runs a mile in four minutes flat chooses not to try to make a career out of running.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:19 PM
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There is no cheat code. You simply need to have been working your ass off since age six - just like most professional athletes and performers. Anything less than that means you need to either be top ten percent performance wise at your job or be content with menial labor - and lucky to have that. You can go from having a decent shot at a good job to not even being considered for wearing the wrong color shirt: you are expected to be nearly professional level at fashion. Ever see the business card…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:17 PM
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I mean - have you ever heard of Paul Ekman? As someone on the spectrum, I need to be approaching his level just to be average. It's not hard - plenty of societies and cultures expected as much or more. Yeoman John, an Englishman c. 1300 AD, and his friends Bill the Tanner, Matthew the Carpenter, and Michael the Cooper could all hit a dinner plate a football field away with a 140lb longbow. His Mongol contemporary could do the same from horseback. Maybe average people are even more graceful socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:15 PM
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They're lucky if their equivalent is legally capable of consenting - which is why lifelong celibacy is generally advised for autistic men. If they're hardworking and competent people they might get a gold digger three times their weight and live What's Eating Gilbert Grape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:31 PM
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Yeah - you need to be as graceful socially as a professional dancer or something like that. Every word, every gesture, every laugh, every smile: a seemingly-effortless and carefully curated performance. I've heard of guys that lost their shot at a job for wearing the wrong color of shirt, or who awkwardly asked a woman out and were ostracized for years. Can you get someone to endure, day after day, immense suffering simply to make you happy? Can you get someone to - perhaps literally - set herse…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:25 PM
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There are shitloads of short American medical residents that are single because nobody's interested in them...they seem like decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:21 PM
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I'd be OK with that - and shocked that she was into me or at least willing to tolerate me. There's plenty of shorter doctors that are starting to become OK with morbidly obese girlfriends that don't work...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:20 PM
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There are guys who are included in their friend groups conditional on presenting themselves as asexual and being celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:19 PM
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I don't know about that: with intellectual disability, does a man's ability to not scare women increase faster than a woman's ability to perceive danger decreases? If you're an average man...you had better have spent years working every bit as hard as a professional athlete or concert pianist at being socially graceful, among other things. Every word and every gesture have to be flawless - if you smile half a second too long, if your shirt's the wrong shade of blue...you're creepy and gross. I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:40 PM
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average looking people on either side shouldn't expect to date 10/10 people unless they're willing to put in intense effort in doing so. Fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 08:36 PM
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Do bears shit in the woods? The self-described bitches I know - many of whom are quite masculine, one going as far as taking testosterone and a male name for a while - either date other women, feminine dudes, or very masculine dudes. About even split.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:46 AM
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I suppose. Well. If they aren't raised UMC. If they aren't they might hire a hooker or maybe get with a very fat heroin addict they're enabling or something kind of gross like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:20 PM
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There's something in between "using the power of the State to keep weak sickly people from breeding" and "weak sickly people dating and wanting sex and relationships is seen just like Average Alan or Median Melissa wanting those things. It's what the disability theorists have called desexualization. To be clear, this is not people thinking that Weak Willie, Sickly Susan, or Paralyzed Paul aren't attractive, or shooting them down when they ask them out. It's thinking that these people are fundame…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:18 AM
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"I'm really fucking blunt and kind of a bitch...I like being abrasive. But I'm also kind." I can't get enough of disagreeable abrasive insensitive bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:01 PM
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it definitely can be. Have you had that happen more than two or three times in your life? I've experienced it maybe twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:15 AM
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Hmm. I need to like someone's personality to be attracted too! Celebrity crushes were kinda baffling to me. I said Amy from the Big Bang Theory because I liked her personality, and my friends all talked about how Scarlett Johansson was very hot (she is, but what's her personality like?) or about how there were certain things you could not do with personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:58 AM
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Yes. It's a subset of my broader contention - unattractive people who want to date are taking pretty big risks. Where do they want the ambulances? The guys at least get to ride shotgun or follow the ambulance. Autistic women have it hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:26 PM
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This is essentially ignorance. Study your anatomy a bit bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:00 AM
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Guns are...scarier in what they do physically when actual used Agreed - gunshot wounds are generally worse and more lethal than stab wounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:09 PM
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I’ve seen Chihuahuas put people in the hospital needing stitches as well. Yeah. However, unless you're fairly unlucky (read: infection, or perhaps falling and hitting your head on something hard) that Chihuahua isn't sending you to the OR, ICU, or morgue. The Rottweiler may.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:18 AM
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And I've been thinking about posting essentially a defense of desexualization here, too: as the disability theorists have described. Essentially, how very unattractive or disabled people are monstrous, or at least transgressive, just for being interested in sex or relationships at all. No. Not Anxious Andy approaching Jenny from accounting and being a little fucked up for doing so. More like Anxious Andy, Wheelchair Wally, and Burned Brenda all being seen as gross or transgressive or creepy for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:56 AM
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There are so many ways one average human can be immensely useful to another average human while barely breaking their stride in life. This is rather surprising - I thought that it was a hell of a lot harder to do this as a man than it is as a woman. It might be a bit of a stretch - but if a woman holds a job, any job, isn't morbidly obese, isn't addicted to hard drugs, isn't a danger to herself or others...she's a decent catch. Not so for a man - he needs to be fairly determined in order to not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:50 AM
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Yeah. Even if you've decided never to have a partner, you really do experience some bad effects once you're below maybe a 3/10...roughly, this is still pretty damn rough. You just don't get people even agreeing to keep up the polite fiction that things are normal and that you're not gross. Sure, they might not say anything about it, but they definitely treat you differently...sort of as an honorary group member instead of a real group member. There is a whole set of different social rules for yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:26 PM
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And there's nothing too crazy going on, like her beating the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:03 PM
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Yeah. If you are awkward you are choosing the least bad option. It's no better for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:36 AM
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If forced: on physical experience, maybe an 8? "Well above average" just blurs together and is subjective. Let's say top 2 percent. She's also exceptionally skilled, socially. Those together make her a 9 or 10.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 01:36 AM
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That is true, provided you're not unattractive. Unattractive enough, and just buying a hotdog from the hotdog vendor down the street is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:24 PM
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Yes, unless you are extraordinary in other ways or willing to accept some pretty interesting and perhaps hellish things. Most women find awkwardness disgusting on a visceral, biological level. Hell, it's understood that awkward men are going to dedicate their lives to science or some nerdy shit like that; it's gross and creepy if they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:07 PM
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The Hock provideth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:48 PM
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These people would be well served by exposure to life and death danger. Or maybe a couple years working as a nurse or something. When you have seen the literal wrecks of truly shitty relationships...maybe morbid obesity doesn't seem all that bad, not compared to being run over by your girlfriend and crippled for life. Or losing an arm to an abusive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:05 AM
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I also think that she is seeing some of the nastier side of politics or humanity and that it is making her cynical. Being very attractive...or very wealthy...or very physically strong...has its downsides. You can get away with terrible technique and brute force a lot. You are likely to only be valued for that one quality. I had a couple of friends that worked as models. They were all somewhat cynical - an awful lot like healthcare workers, to be honest. They, too, see some shit and tend towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 04:03 AM
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Essentially: real men have the capacity to project violence. As goddamn nasty as it is, I think that going to war makes men more attractive and masculine. I don't recommend this for a modern society, though. I wonder if you can get that by chucking yourself into the Alaskan wilderness in winter and seeing if you can walk out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:56 AM
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Yeah. As an American Black man, autistic, raised upper middle class by weird autists: there's a lot of ground covered here by "behaving well"; some of it is bullshit, some of it is entitled garbage, and some of it is basically assimilation. Some of it is also tact. So...better get to unpacking bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:53 AM
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And for those it's significantly better than average for, usually genetics are involved. From what I've seen: I'd agree maybe two times out of three. The third are basically endurance athletes. Maybe the propensity to spend eight hours a week running or swimming or cycling since 18 or 30 or whenever is heavily genetic, too. For what it is worth, I'd say I have quite a bit more exposure to this than the average young person, having spent several years in the healthcare field.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 03:48 AM
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Were your generation full of extremely determined autists that would literally rather die than not do their utmost to be graceful and never, ever make social blunders... and then the next generation thought that this was too harsh? I honestly think they had a point: it may be better to die than live knowing you are weak and have not done your utmost to be more graceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:15 AM
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This seems Hock adjacent...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:55 PM
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No. Introversion isn't evil. Maybe not making a reasonable effort to become graceful is. You might stretch it to say it's evil to fail to do your utmost to become graceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:54 PM
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Yeah pretty much. Lifting is good and all. It's good to be putting up half decent numbers but you don't need to be a competitive powerlifter...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:53 PM
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If you consider YOURSELF a bitch, I think that's cool as fuck and I respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:16 AM
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Was Sam Patch, the 19th century daredevil, Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 12:07 AM
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This - the men that come closest to getting this are probably soldiers, healthcare workers, and guys that chose to face down a pretty sizable risk of getting maimed or killed in order to accomplish a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:11 PM
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That person would be a somewhat messy, slightly neurotic woman who was rather determined. Maybe she'd be a little bit of a bitch, she'd definitely have a circle of tactless insensitive friends. Probably?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 10:03 PM
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Yeah. Depp seems like an asshole that got screwed over a bit, not a saint that got owned by a shitbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 02:23 PM
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A literal son of a bitch!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:47 PM
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Yes. Being a Passport Bro is in some ways a novel and bespoke solution. In many respects you are rolling your own shit and as such need a different set of skills and proclivities. Building your own house might be a great idea for a conscientious, thrifty carpenter or even a reasonably fit engineer...a terrible idea for a city born and raised IT guy that doesn't even own a screwdriver. Maybe the city boy's going to make it, but he's gonna have to work a good deal harder than the carpenter and his…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:41 AM
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Yep. Quasimodo and male models are outliers. It sucks donkey balls to be Quasimodo, and it's probably awesome to be a male model. Other things matter more if you're average. Honestly, it's not too different from your running speed affecting your life. If you're running a four minute mile you're going to be benefiting from that. If it takes you an hour to do a mile that sucks. If you go from nine minutes to eight, that and a few bucks gets you a cup of coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:05 AM
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Yeah. Maybe. On the other hand...there's roughly two to five percent of people who someone who is even close to average just shouldn't be messing with at all. If you can live independently, manage your own affairs, and hold a job, *any* job...it's illegal and probably immoral to have sex with people that aren't able to consent. So that gets you to one percent right there with the intellectually disabled. Then you've got another percent or so that is more or less out of touch with reality due to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:26 PM
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Exposure to unavoidable tragedy with close friends. Ideally at least nominally willingly chosen, and certainly not coerced. I recommend something like mountaineering. High school is too young for war and we don't have the disease we used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:20 PM
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Yeah, agreed, with some exceptions that basically cash out to being surrounded by assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah. Occasionally it can be shit luck like being deformed or being around racist shitheads or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:01 AM
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I'll amend that to say that if they're caring and kind or at least not assholes men love bitches. They don't mind aggressive abrasive insensitive bitches if said bitches are kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:49 AM
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Probably more like man vs chimp...a very large and very strong man could stand a chance but if you ain't built like the Mountain your ass is grass vs a chimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 12:05 AM
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You can be both nice or caring AND a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:00 AM
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Guys like abrasive forceful disagreeable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:59 AM
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Yeah there's a different kind of Bitch that will only stab you right in the goddamn front.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:58 AM
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Yeah. That guy is a badass driving a speeding truck at Putin. However, Putin is a tank or something. Good luck brother, you'll need it. However Musk has got to be swimming in gold diggers. And he's famous. Serial killers get lots of fanmail and I'd say he's somewhere above serial killer but maybe below rockstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:57 AM
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Yeah. Hell if I couldn't get both then finding a way to find a desperate spineless rich nerd and cuck him with Chad would seem like a good idea. I can't blame women for doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:33 AM
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Yeah. Also not having practice dealing with situations in which ALL possible options suck in some major way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:14 PM
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Depends on a lot. Are you a racial minority in a prejudiced area hitting on girls that aren't your ethnicity, or is there crap like that going on? Are you a privileged frat boy? Not neurotypical? Popular or despised? Into casual sex or not? I think that if you are reasonably prudent and not at otherwise high risk it's fairly unlikely... but if you are rather incautious and into casual sex it is likelier. Nobody is 100% perfect at determining who can consent, but a decently prudent person can get…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:31 AM
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Yeah. I've known more than a few guys who have reached acceptance. Invariably short fit middle class and umc guys. Incels as a political party would basically not be worth donkey shit. The more prominent members would get girlfriends and evaporative cooling would occur just like the incel movement/identity...it started with a decent but lonely autistic bisexual woman named Alana and evaporatively cooled down to Eliot Roger tier people. And people that had the political savvy to pull this off wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:59 PM
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Yeah. If the woman is unconscious and hasn't indicated her wishes, and he is married to the father, and there's a genuine choice... maybe what he says gets considered. Not otherwise. In order to get away with this...you might not need to be a monarch but definitely very well off and very powerful. You just need to have half a dozen doctors and maybe as many nurses in your pocket. It's hospital CEO tier shit, not head of state.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 07:52 PM
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To some extent. He was also 5'7"; he would have counted if he was 6'2" and worked out, but was otherwise the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:15 PM
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Yeah. Short guys are either remarkable, celibate for life, or deal with some pretty bad shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:34 AM
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Hell. I will say that you have not done enough unless you are WRITING books on social skills that have sold more than ten thousand copies...or you hold some level of political power or are very popular...or you have spent at least 20,000 hours on gaining these skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:02 PM
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Yeah, fair enough. Other people just get garbage hands, like muscular dystrophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:59 PM
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That 600lb woman is unlikely to be out in public. Those are basically the types of people that are mostly invisible to the average person because they're either at home all the time or in institutions of one kind or another. Almost always people in social settings will be able to do basic hygiene and hold down jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:56 PM
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Yeah. Ideally they would be working hard but sustainably starting in elementary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:46 AM
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Yes. He needs to work his ass off. Unless and until his community deems him morally worthy of having someone endure deep visceral biological disgust simply to make him happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:45 AM
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Realistic for casual sex: legally able to consent. Preferably won't get you killed, maimed, or jailed. Relationships: works a job, not a danger to herself or others, can manage her own affairs, not addicted to drugs or alcohol, ideally not morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:19 PM
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Yeah. I would go as far as arguing that if he wasn't willing to endure a deep visceral biological disgust simply to make someone happy he's a fucking hypocrite for wanting a relationship and as such gross. It's hard work. He is going to need to be fairly well off, in excellent shape, and ideally never make a social blunder large enough to be put into words. He is probably going to fail, but he is also probably going to be better off. It takes a LOT of strength, resources, and resourcefulness in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 11:18 PM
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If you gain one point and you are under 40ish years old it is probably unironically a good investment, as measured in dollars and cents. Good luck!
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/23 07:27 PM
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1) your son is servicing male clients, or he's a good looking and socially graceful Australian man. 4) your daughter is hiring other women, or has some rather unusual requirements and a need for grace and discretion. These aren't necessarily kink but can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:00 AM
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I was always into disagreeable blunt abrasive insensitive women. If they were also caring... holy shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:58 AM
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Mostly bullshit. I had a close female friend for a decade. I'm glad that she's not at all attracted to me. I feel the same way about her. Even though she's pretty. I offered to help her with things she needed done, manual labor mostly. She always turned me down. How is that for women always using guys as pack mules? She could have gotten a decent amount of hauling out of me but didn't. She was super caring and supportive so I still would have considered it fair. Sweet kind hippie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:56 AM
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Yeah. It's like... attractiveness isn't 'being a good person' any more than being good at basketball. A huge asshole could beat a puny saint in one on one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:52 PM
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Eh. Attractiveness IS NOT moral virtue. That foreveralone guy might be less attractive than a good looking serial killer getting fanmail, but he is a better person morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:41 PM
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Maybe. Could broaden their horizons to something like knitting, yoga, or writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:38 PM
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by being attractive You can have platonic friendships with women even if you look like Quasimodo. Literal midgets have female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:37 PM
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Social poverty. Seek therapy, consider joining a church if you believe, and maybe move. Try an accepting nerdy scene. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:27 AM
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You can get fit. Go to burning man or regional burns. Women are going to be okay talking to you dude
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:26 AM
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Idk I've never had a partner but I'd probably not mind... you had experiences before me and I hope you liked them and grew from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:24 AM
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Mmm. I could write a longer post but essentially social norms are more fine grained than laws. I suppose that you could assess the visible parts of physical attraction or income but hard to tell whether a guy that looks decent in still photos is actually shit. Eliot Roger looked decent in stills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:22 AM
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I will agree for the most part. Edge cases boil down to deep cultural incompatibility, youthful bullying, and cultural BS. I knew of...one or two, but not very well. One wasn't obviously terrible and the other cheated.
/r/AllPillDebate13/09/23 03:18 AM
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Unless the workout is social or pretty short... running a couple of miles every morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:58 AM
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Mmm... they might have a genuine and mostly reasonable belief that it's better that you're single for life than that you have a partner or that partner. Rudeness isn't the way to go though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:57 AM
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A question: are there able bodied employed guys that can't really get positive responses from social circles that contain mostly people that work jobs and can manage their own affairs? Trying to hang out with homeless junkies and flirt with them as a clean, employed man seems to be a bad idea. Might be necessary... but IMO there's a lot of gainfully employed guys that can't realistically date women without doing things most westerners would consider scummy or predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:54 AM
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Yeah...that would be a pretty interesting post. I could write one...but I would be missing the effects the pandemic had on the highly sociable extroverted people Reddit loves to hate on. A rough outline...the middle class and up and healthy mostly did well, with the exception of those who are prone to autoimmune disease. From personal experience, a disproportionate number of high-achieving attractive neurotic young women get got by genuine autoimmune disease...although this is a hypothesis that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:00 AM
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Hmm. I'm guessing that this holds true even if the guy is in good shape himself. Probably why so many middle class and UMC short guys with six packs are "focusing on their careers".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:06 PM
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Yeah. I mean...hell, stirring up controversy and being disagreeable or polarizing can be a deliberately chosen strategy. Depending on environment it's not even that bad a strategy, even for a clumsy socially graceless individual. I've done it...have a pretty solid group of friends who consider themselves bitches, but alienated and offended a few people along the way. Variance is the poor man's self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:33 AM
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That makes more sense. As I keep harping on here..."weak" guys aren't just the stereotypical genuinely lazy basement dweller. They're the homeless guy with cerebral palsy and chronic pain from a car accident. They're the 18-year-old guy with schizophrenia that might've smoked too much pot. They're the poor bastard with a connective tissue or autoimmune disorder on disability. Of course you have a good deal of lazy bums in the mix as well, though. As for the blackpilled whining incels...probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:26 AM
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I honestly don't know about that one: suicides come in clusters and you have a hell of a lot of pain that gets transferred to family, friends, and community from that. I suppose you could just stop offering many services aimed at reducing the rate of male death by suicide and let the chips fall where they may. Most even then would be too chickenshit to turn mass murderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 02:03 AM
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Yeah. Spergs had better be smart and have reasonably sensible commanders that will put their spergy asses in the signal corps or something. Short guys can be tankers and submariners. Anxious, slow, and weak dudes are just fucked.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 01:23 AM
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Seems like plenty of short physicians' genes are crap.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 01:21 AM
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Yeah. I don't think that straight up killing weak dudes is the way, that has far too many drawbacks in a modern society. That goes quadruple if the State is used to do it. We just need to pound it into the heads of unattractive men that they are fundamentally disgusting and that their sexuality is transgressive. People will do the rest in formally and informally punishing these transgressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:54 AM
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I understand. Basically they think you're unlikely to find a partner... but nobody thinks that you are transgressing social norms by wanting a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:38 AM
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Mmm. Would you mind elaborating more on those? The first and second. I'm not talking about Becky being uncomfortable that you hit on her but about your friends Bob, Mike, and Chuck being kind of uncomfortable that you want a relationship at all or that you think Scarlett Johansson is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:58 AM
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Are people uncomfortable with you wanting sex or relationships in the abstract?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:32 AM
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28yo male. 3/10. Short, balding, autistic. People at least pretend to be surprised that I've never had a relationship, and at least pretend to not be disgusted that I want one. That makes me at least a 2 or 3...out of the bottom few percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:16 AM
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Are people uncomfortable if you talk about wanting sex or relationships in the abstract? Is it basically understood that you'll never have a relationship or a partner? When you're sitting around bullshitting with the guys and the topic of attractive celebrities comes up, does the conversation grind to a halt when you contribute? If YES, then you're a 1 or 2; if NO, you're a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:12 AM
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women with shaven heads are pretty cool
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 02:34 AM
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Basically: some people, about ten percent, are kind of shit candidates for relationships. Sucks if that's your only real option.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:49 PM
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Yeah. I can make an exception for disability that's no one's fault, and even more so if it's mostly cosmetic: I wouldn't turn down a girl that looked like Freddy Kreuger if she was otherwise healthy. If she liked to work out and was able to be confident and not really care what people thought about her I'd be very interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:29 PM
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Both are excellent: this is like asking whether I'd like ten million dollars as a lump sum, or an annuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:23 PM
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Fair enough. I'd argue that around 10 percent of people are bad candidates for relationships, though. Autism, intellectual disability, legal issues, mental illness, physical health issues, drug/alcohol addiction, being an abusive piece of shit, asexuality...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:22 PM
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you want what “chad and stacy” has and boo hoo if you can’t achieve this shallow, transactional relationship. More like...you want to not be thinking about shit like rehab or long-term nursing care when the kids are still in junior high school. You don't want to be living What's Eating Gilbert Grape or Intervention or some kind of shit like that. You don't want to be with a crazy asshole who's abusive, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:15 PM
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I've known many, many women over the years who were average or below average in looks, who were in their mid-twenties or older, who had NEVER gone on a date or been in a relationship in their lives. The only reasons I can think of for that are morbid obesity and facial disfigurement. That, and serious physical or mental health issues. If she's not obese and is able to work a job, any job...then something is going on there that is unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:11 PM
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It's satire - but you kind of have a point. Very unattractive people don't get out much. Hard to do that when you're intellectually disabled, mentally ill, or have physical health issues. Those people are basically invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:10 PM
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like a solid 80% of them are dating or married to morbidly obese women. That's how it is for short guys; surprised that that's the six-footers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:09 PM
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men my height (5'2) with their girlfriends, wives and kids going around. Where do you live that 5'2" guys aren't exceptionally short? Northeast US here; maybe only met two such guys in my life. Almost universally guys shorter than 5'6" are with morbidly obese or crazy women. Crazy as in...a danger to herself or others. The exceptions are pretty remarkable human beings: future neurosurgeons who are also fit and charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:08 PM
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Are you part of a religious community?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:06 PM
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You should attempt it; it will probably give you valuable wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:05 PM
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Eh. I'd date but not marry a 600lb woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:31 AM
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I'm okay with overweight and obesity. Would prefer not to be with someone morbidly obese but if we're both clear marriage isn't on the table I'm okay with it. You can have reasonably well adjusted kids if you are living What's Eating Gilbert Grape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:29 AM
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Swole people, you know who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:28 AM
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I know a guy. He's a medical resident.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:25 AM
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More like 6'4, charismatic, and wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:25 AM
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You forgot mental retardation and serious physical health issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:45 PM
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You would be lucky to get that. Usually it's pretty much nothing and maybe if you are lucky someone who is on disability but otherwise mentally competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:22 PM
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Scenario 2: Those posts aren't exaggerating at all. You are fucked. Normal overweight men have better luck with women than handsome autistic men. Masking 99% of your autism won't matter, women will subconsciously detect problems with your body language and immediately lose interest. Keep improving your looks, but even when you look like a 10 you'll struggle to pull a 6. I believe this, more or less. Become extraordinary or decide where you want the ambulances. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:23 AM
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That an autistic man is at a major disadvantage because he might work all his life at staying not fat and not socially inept and then get only an 8. Ooooh the mildly autistic boy doesn't get the rarely awarded but theoretically possible full marks this time and actually had to work...he must be at a major disadvantage! This is utter idiocy. He might work all his life at staying not-fat, be in excellent shape, even run a goddamn research lab at a world-class institution dedicated to the study of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:21 AM
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Are willing to be in a committed, long-term relationship. I've seen plenty of guys that are OK with all kinds of crazy bullshit from their girlfriends and wives. Up to and including 'she tried to strangle my 10yo son'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:10 PM
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Hmm. IME: physical attractiveness matters, but just to the point of not being morbidly obese. Femininity and agreeableness don't matter as much...there are going to be guys that are OK with that. The problem is the predators circling looking for weird isolated girls. That sucks donkey balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:08 PM
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I guess I wasn't sufficiently clear: they're not the alcoholics. It's their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:38 PM
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Yeah. Greedy dumbass is definitely out there. So are guys who have just given up and guys who are just resigned to dealing with bullshit like alcoholism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:50 AM
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Yeah, fair-ish. I've seen socially skilled doctors that looked like male models bring lots of women home from dating apps; they weren't all models but they were thin, middle-class, and well-spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:54 PM
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Fair enough. I do see the fit, short man - morbidly obese woman pairing pretty often; I wonder whether - all else equal - it's better to be a short man than a fat woman, dating aside. If the fat woman magically loses weight, is the benefit as great as if a short man magically grew to average height? As far as "marrying up" in class...that is rather unusual for a lot of reasons and yes, something is frequently up. An average-looking man earning a quarter million a year supports his girlfriend, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:53 PM
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I'm on the spectrum and have female friends.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/23 04:11 PM
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Your mom was fucking delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:51 PM
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I unironically and sincerely believe it would be best for OP to be celibate for life, followed perhaps by him having a relationship with the type of person he can realistically get. Hopefully he enjoys being a nurse/caretaker/social worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:51 PM
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A partner who works a job, isn't morbidly obese, and isn't a danger to herself or others is unrealistic. He needs to have his legs lengthened, get plastic surgery, deal with being mute... even a fit well spoken 5'6" doctor will struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 11:49 PM
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I think that around ten percent of people are poor candidates for relationships and that it is basically understood that two percent or so of people will never be in a relationship. Disability of various kinds plus shit tier character accounts for most of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:25 PM
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The existence of president Obama means that the American people aren't super racist... he wouldn't have been on the ballot in 1950.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/23 11:21 AM
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Don't forget physical health issues.
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/23 03:02 PM
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Yep. What's Eating Gilbert Grape isn't terrible... better than a lot of things I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:00 AM
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This. You are usually better off. Wild card is crippling yourself during your self improvement attempt but it is unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:00 AM
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Where does he want the ambulances?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:59 AM
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How insanely charismatic are you, and have you considered using your skills to get rich? Maybe a career as a political adviser or something like that...a high end salesman, maybe high finance?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:06 PM
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If I was forced to guess. If $60k/year is a 5, $250k is a 6, 1M a 7, 4M an 8, 15M maybe a 9? Something roughly like this. So one point for every quadrupling, with 60k being baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:52 AM
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Yeah. Especially while she's under 30 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:59 AM
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Or he's in the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:19 AM
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All deals are bad for him. Which is least bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 03:41 PM
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med school Not enough if you are 5'5" or shorter. Same for being a medical resident. It's interesting how all the short guys in my class are focusing on their careers. If you are going into something like neurosurgery and are very charismatic that might be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:54 AM
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Is it better for him to be celibate for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 02:49 AM
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He needs to consider himself basically responsible for everything. This is why the old model of the man taking care of his wife was in some ways better... provided she was independent. This should be his goal: to be able to absorb a stress equivalent to being a full time nurse and caretaker for another adult. If our autistic hero realizes just how bad his situation is in his early teens, and he is extremely determined, he might be able to find a partner after a decade of hard work. He could be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:13 AM
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They need that if they want to ever have a girlfriend who is not a danger to herself or others and can live outside of something like a group home.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:09 AM
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Like. Autistic people are usually just straight up expected to be single for life. Even if they have good jobs and decent social circles. Anything else is an exception obtained by exceptional people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:07 AM
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I mean. He can simply try to be Superman. Work full time, plus do as much childcare as possible while she sits around and doesn't do much. I've seen couples like this. Four hundred pound women sitting doing nothing while Dad works his ass off at work and at home. It's what it takes for short guys to have kids. Not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:10 AM
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Yeah - what the hell is the catch? Is she on meth or some shit? Bat shit fucking crazy? Literally retarded? What's the deal here? If something seems too good to be true, it probably is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:40 PM
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I do wonder how 5'3 bikerbats pulls it off. He's very small...you would expect a guy that size to never have a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:17 AM
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Human trafficking is a big confounding factor here. I suppose you can bite the utilitarian bullet and argue that it is better for one trafficked woman to be raped 100 times than 200 free women being raped once each.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:16 PM
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Bull. Plenty of women don't work at all and are provided for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:08 PM
1

Hmm. Was this every single autistic man? If say half of them were convincingly pretending to be asexual and half were overly pushy you would notice the pushy half pretty fast...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:04 PM
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More like there's two groups of autistic guys. Overly persistent and ones that just gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:03 PM
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That is very interesting. I would have thought that most of them got The Talk about how it was likely that they would never have a relationship and that they were kind of creepy for wanting one. Maybe these were a different group...in any case they definitely needed other dudes to haul them aside and tell them this wasn't okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:59 PM
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THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:56 PM
1

Uh...gang lords get laid like tile. It might be good for him to keep that dominance on the athletic field. Mostly. Just enough to make sure he doesn't wind up doing hard time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:55 PM
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He needs to face life-and-death struggle and preferably bury friends he is as close with as brothers. You really don't want to know how the sausage is made. Hopefully, you don't have to bury your son.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:54 PM
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How tall is he? He's in the average ballpark... maybe below average. I also feel sorry for his wife lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:12 PM
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If you are 4'2", yeah. Fair enough. I'd consider you more or less deformed due to a no bullshit medical condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:24 AM
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What kind of compromises did they make...were there lights and sirens involved - or should there have been? I've known more than a few guys who had to deal with crap like girlfriends trying to stab them or kill their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:41 AM
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Yeah. Travel, maybe do a bit of martial arts. Accept that you are deciding where you want the ambulances and by going this route you might win big and have a mostly-sane wife that doesn't get anyone killed, maimed, or thrown in jail. You might also wind up in a hospital in Manila after you've had the living shit beat out of you...assuming you even make it to the hospital. Where do you want the ambulances?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:39 AM
2

Yeah. Silicon Valley is full of fit multimillionaire virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:21 AM
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Yes. They're all shorter than average. 5'4" to 5'7".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 06:06 PM
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Lol. Hopefully they could do basic hygiene and weren't a danger to themselves and others. Which can be hard to find if you are really unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 04:59 AM
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Bluntness can be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:13 AM
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Has he considered bodybuilding and plastic surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:01 AM
1

You are dealing with desexualization. It sucks. Find a way to come off as completely asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:00 AM
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I mean... to be honest for a lot of the ugly autistic guys here, even the gainfully employed ones? Their matches aren't on dating apps. They don't even own smartphones in many cases. Their matches are in group homes and respite cares and homeless shelters and occasionally jail and prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:18 AM
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Yes. And then anger: at the self or others. It at best is a quiet resignation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:54 AM
1

What does a stellar interpersonal skills performance even look like? I haven't seen one in person, or if I did, I wasn't aware of it. I've heard of things like this being done, but generally only by aristocrats and politicians. Stuff like a defendant convincing a dozen jurors to sit in a 17th century jail for almost a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:12 AM
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Three plates is pretty common for dudes. For women...are you into amazonian queer powerlifter types? More power to you if you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:03 AM
1

Haven't seen that from the medical residents I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:59 AM
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Yeah. You might be charismatic enough for a career in politics. Or maybe high end sales. Have you ever considered making a killing off your insane charisma? Also how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:00 AM
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Were people ever uncomfortable that you wanted to date at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:27 PM
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One, if I was very lucky. Short bald and autistic is a very hard sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:24 PM
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We live in an economy where both partners need to work to survive. [x] Doubt. I know *lots* of women who don't work and don't expect to work. Honestly kind of surprising that you expect to work instead of be supported by your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:46 PM
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I mean...that isn't *that* wild, short men have to be future neurosurgeons or make a million a year **and** have enough charisma for a career in politics in order to date anyone that isn't either morbidly obese, the kind of crazy that gets you put in forensic psych wards or prison, or addicted to hard drugs. Nor is the idea of choosing some men essentially by lot to be either extraordinary exemplars of human achievement, nurses/caretakers/social workers, or celibate for life a bad one. Such is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:44 PM
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Yep - most girls don't like short guys, and the ones that do are more or less holding their noses because of $$$ or else there is a lot of pressure, usually from a religious community.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 04:40 PM
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Not if you are 5'4". You need to be in a surgical specialty or maybe ROAD. Family practice and psychiatry don't cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:43 AM
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There's plenty of women that don't work and are entirely supported by their boyfriends or husbands. If you're not fat, it's not hard to get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:20 AM
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I dont think there is (much) cheating involved. It is just normal pretty woman priviledge. I mean. I dont know america but most aapiring female doctors here are rather pretty. And for a good reason. Medicine course is difficult but also subjective... so you either work hard... or is pretty... these are the ways you reach the end of the course. But there is no rules saying that the tests for OB-GYN needs to be standardized here (or any medicine tests besides the one at the end of the course). I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:32 PM
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medicine No; the medical doctors that I've seen in the US are more or less competent. They all must pass a series of exams in order to be doctors. Cheating there is...probably doable, but difficult, and I don't see how cheating would be much easier for women than it would be for men. You've told about how women in Brazil might take the entrance exam for medical school 20 times. Shit don't fly in the US. In med school? Many of the exams are in practice one shot: fail, and there goes your shot at …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:04 PM
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Men love Bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:59 AM
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Consult a Hollywood tier plastic surgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:18 AM
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Addicted to things like meth or heroin. Can't hold down a job. Not won't - can't. In and out of institutions: jail, prison, psych wards. Felony tier crimes against people. Physically abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:55 AM
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Pulled from ass, somewhere between 0.1 and 1 percent. I met one. She's a very unusual person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:38 AM
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Interesting. So you aren't only dating morbidly obese women or ones that are otherwise deeply fucked up. Like most of my short friends. Nor are you being told that you will never have a relationship, or having people be uncomfortable with the idea of you wanting a girlfriend ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:36 AM
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Two have bodies like Greek gods, two more do very well for themselves in powerlifting competitions. Four are "focused on their careers".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:13 AM
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Creepiness is associated with a lack of social capital. Basically jailing the unpopular. I think that's too harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:55 AM
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I honestly think that you are an extraordinary and remarkable individual. Were you taller you would likely have made an excellent politician or perhaps a military officer. Can you easily inspire people to sacrifice and suffer on your behalf?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:40 PM
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I know nine 5'5 or shorter men. All either single or with morbidly obese or literally insane girlfriends except for the future neurosurgeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:37 PM
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Did you ever date anyone? Were people expecting you to never have a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:33 PM
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It's usually with morbidly obese women at best. At worst they're dangers to themselves and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:32 PM
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Are they morbidly obese or addicted to something or in and out of psych wards? Like what type of women are you dating bro at 5'3"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:15 PM
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I mean they're hippie earthybitches. Nice people, idk about issues. They've been pretty cool in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:43 AM
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I can't tell if you are wise or foolish. I respect the strength of your convictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:25 AM
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Plenty of guys willing to provide for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:12 PM
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She should try Silicon Valley, if she's okay with a sperg. Also try short doctors or tech bros or finance guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:11 PM
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Yeah. This is fine. Morbid obesity kind of isn't but I've known people that did okay living what's eating Gilbert Grape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:35 AM
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I mean were they morbidly obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:27 AM
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Yeah. Most fat women make it to menopause. Dying at 65 after a decade of needing a nurse and caretaker isn't terrible...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:26 AM
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Hmm. He might be involved in autism research, or he might not want a cure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:22 AM
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I mean if you are bi you might be with one of your sister wives...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:11 PM
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Shit tons of single millionaires in silicon valley.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:09 PM
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Industrialization is unprecedented. The norms and lifeways that work out in an industrial environment are different from grainfarmer ways
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:37 PM
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Young yuppies who work at Silicon Valley There's a hell of a lot of Silicon Valley guys that are virgins at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:53 PM
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Not usually. Often they don't want to talk about it or acknowledge it, or cloak it under different types of...euphemisms, but they usually have some idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:52 PM
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I knew a couple women that were somewhere on the asexual spectrum. They usually did better than their family of origin career wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:32 AM
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You were a fucking beast and would have won local powerlifting contests. If you can get your IBS under control you are going to be a fucking animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:25 PM
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Got it. Didn't mean to insult you. But a black guy who grew up on an alfalfa farm in rural Pennsylvania is going to have a different worldview and culture from one that was raised in a middle class black suburb. Still try Portland if you are at all liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:19 PM
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No PC way to say this. How whitewashed are you? If you were raised in the suburbs you might try your luck in Portland.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:33 AM
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Eh. I've orgasmed just from kissing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:28 AM
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There's a lot more variation in how orgasmic women are. Some come stupidly easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:28 AM
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WEIRDOBITCH! She's a weirdobitch. It's awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:25 AM
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You can outrun your fork, you just have to run like a motherfucker to do so. Cycling is better for this. Even so you need to ride around a hundred miles a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:10 AM
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I have heard of Australian psychotherapists prescribing prostitute visits, or at least suggesting them in their clinical capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:25 PM
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LMAO, maybe her dad isn't straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:23 PM
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I need someone's personality in order to be attracted. It is very much a mixed blessing. In my case it would be better if I was less sociosexually restricted. I had a lot of opportunities in high school and a couple in college that I turned down because I didn't like their personalities and we didn't bond that way. Unfortunately, I lost my hair early and it is looking more and more like I blew my shot at having a partner better than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:58 PM
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charming as fuck. I mean...if you have a huge social circle and could have gone into politics? That could get you places.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:56 PM
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How tall are you? Respect. You were deadlifting damn near 500, squatting almost 375, and benching close to 250? You should have competed in powerlifting contests. You were a goddamn beast in the weight room. Seriously - you should have done powerlifting competitions. Maybe try climbing. There's got to be some sport where being skinny but strong as fuck gives you an advantage...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:55 PM
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I'd suggest building a huge social circle and maybe making 7 figures. Also therapy. About IBS...good luck with that. You might be able to see UCLA docs or something...really good specialists. Also, what exactly are you describing as "bottom barrel"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:49 PM
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There are problems with that. I've known children of people that settled on that axis. Best case scenario was What's Eating Gilbert Grape and worst case (two) was felony child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:47 PM
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I’m a demisexual - my attraction to a person is based entirely on emotional connection. Same, unfortunately...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:45 PM
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See my flair. Do you want to be with someone that's in and out of some institution or other? That might well be your league...even if you've got a job and are living independently. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:45 PM
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You might call celebs a special case of a political marriage or relationship; that sort of thing is not uncommon for high politicians and people who make lots of money through networking. For peasants like us? After say high school that isn't much of a concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:24 PM
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Bar girls, the desperately poor, and...let's say adrenaline-junkie types who don't want to or can't fit in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:21 PM
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These guys aren't just autistic but also dumb. I've got an effortpost coming, I think, about how desexualization - basically telling very unattractive/low-value people that they'll never have partners and shouldn't look, and if they want ordinary social inclusion they need to basically be celibate for life - is actually doing everyone a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:20 PM
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Yes, if I weighed 300 lbs and never brushed my hair I could probably find a sad sack loser to want to pump and dump me. You could probably find a man to be sole provider: you wouldn't have to work unless you wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:01 PM
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Is she not straight? Also, is she much larger or stronger than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:12 PM
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You're acespec.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:56 AM
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Blue pill with a dash of black.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:55 AM
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Dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:53 AM
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Yeah pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:46 AM
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Accept that you are either going to be remarkable in some way or alone for the rest of your life. Be grateful that you are a guy; if you are a woman you are very vulnerable to predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 04:46 AM
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The dudes have jobs, the women don't. Some of the guys are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:47 AM
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There is a BIG difference between that 5’0” guy getting a “You’re not my cup of tea” from women and people - women and other men - basically telling him that he should be celibate for life and that it’s gross that he even wants a partner in the first place. The super short dude might suck ass on the basketball court and be picked last for pickup basketball, but it’s at least theoretically OK for him to give basketball a try. If he was getting a lot of “Fuck you, who the fuck told you you could g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:21 PM
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Hmm. Ideally it would be okay for him to want a partner. He might fail, but it's okay for him to want a partner in the same way it's okay for him to want to play basketball.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:34 PM
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Yeah. Guys need to be fit, social, and fairly well off. Preferably tall and good looking as well. Then again that fatass black guy got married to Tammy Slaton...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:32 PM
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Yeah. Hell I suspect you can be damn near bedbound and still do okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:51 PM
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600lb women find partners. Tammy Slaton has guys lined up to date her. To be in a relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:54 PM
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Like. What the hell happened? The guy needs to have his teeth cleaned and wash his hair! And get better clothes!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:53 PM
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Maybe these days. I got a lot of attention in high school for being a radical feminist, but that was almost 15 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:49 PM
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DiCaprio’s relationships…a lot of them are transactional. Basically a form of prostitution on a long term contract. As long as both parties know what the deal is and hold up their end of the bargain, it’s not bad. This being said, sleeping with powerful people in order to advance your career IS a form of selling out: the casting couch kind of sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:32 PM
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Probably not - she got to have a couple kids. Her husband’s a decent guy - a kind of awkward crane operator. Average height and weight. Maybe you only get to being better off if nobody found you attractive once you’re mostly attracting predators or enablers. I suppose you could argue that a lot of autistic and disabled women would’ve been better off if guys never found them attractive, though: would you rather never be in a relationship, or be raped a few times or beaten in a DV situation, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:29 PM
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LOL. A friend's mom looks kind of like that. Needs a cane to walk at 53 and easily gets out of breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:55 PM
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Yeah. I mean…if you’re a woman, being 600 pounds, barely able to walk, and on oxygen is no barrier to finding an average looking boyfriend who’s willing to take care of you. Just look at Tammy Slaton and all the other 600lb women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:23 PM
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Lots of 600lb women in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:21 PM
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I think she would’ve done just as well at 350 or 450 pounds. Women on My 600-Lb Life have no trouble finding boyfriends to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:19 PM
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Hmm. Autism can do it. You can be horny af and need to like someone's personality to be attracted. CimZim is like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:45 PM
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Soldier does the most there. Especially if you see combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:16 PM
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I've seen it before, but there's some weirdness associated with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:59 AM
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Conservative guys are more likely to do things like enlist in the Marines and fight in a war. Burying friends makes a man out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:48 AM
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That is interesting. However, I think that war is the most masculine thing a man can do. Hard labor, especially leading other men doing this, also works but not nearly as well. If a man liked war, he's very masculine and also probably not well adapted to civilian life. Idk. These guys are pretty tough, but certainly not socially conservative. I don't know how well they would do in a war. Is the guy who likes to camp and ride his motorcycle and go to burning man masculine? What if he likes to wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:47 AM
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That works very well... I wonder if you or your husband are retired politicians. Like a bush league Michel de Montaigne.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:25 AM
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Yeah. Some of those things are genuinely inadvisable and in some cases can get you killed, maimed, or thrown in jail. Others can be okay, even good. The kind of crazy that sends people to the hospital and morgue... not good. I know a guy that very nearly bled to death because he got stabbed after sticking it in crazy. Another managed to block the knife, broke up with her, and is now happily married. It's something we all realize on some level... unattractive enough and your partners mostly suck …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 03:14 AM
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Shit bro if you're broke af you can do okay with just bodyweight exercises and running. Bonus points if you can score a heavy rock, log, or sandbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:38 AM
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Four minute miles might be beyond you. Should have picked your parents better. You might be able to break five minutes and should be able to break six if you work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:34 AM
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I wonder whether he wound up spending a lot of time around an older and very socially skilled individual when he was young. Essentially aristocratic style tutoring for networking. It works. Any politicians in the family, or powerful corporate people, or anyone with a HUGE network? Also: I don't mean to pry, but 1) would he be able to stop working for money and live off his net worth? 2) is he RICH rich, as John McCain said: five million a year. Rich enough to buy influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:31 AM
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You just have to be well above average, but not extraordinarily so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:52 PM
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I don't know. I think there's an element of physical danger to creepiness, though it might not always be there. I was creeped out by a woman exactly once. I said hi to her and she yelled back "Do you want third degree burns? Because that's how you get third degree burns!" Broad daylight, busy main street of a college town.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:58 AM
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Yep. Tammy Slaton had guys lined up to date her even when she was 600 pounds, on oxygen, and in a wheelchair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:32 AM
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I'm fine if she's taller than me, too. I would be thrilled with 6' Frida Kreuger, if she was fit and didn't have health problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:07 AM
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Plastic surgery is a thing. And a lot of guys like fit six foot feminists. Especially if they're fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:12 AM
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Based on what you've said... she's settling more than he is. It would be closer to even if he was 200 pounds. As he is, he's likely to be dead in twenty years, thirty if he's lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:51 AM
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He was breaking the BMI scale, with a lot of "help".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:50 AM
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Idk. Some shit guys, certainly a lot of low value guys, realize that having someone who is essentially coerced to be with you kind of sucks ass. Especially if you have money. You have the person who prepares your food hating your guts?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:20 PM
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This is honestly just dumb as dogshit. You can probably run a Western country off Mormon tier patriarchy/conservatism. It worked okay in the 50s. I don't know about Saudi tier, and Taliban tier just doesn't work. You have a hell of a lot of an economic drain in this day and age with a large population of people that lack basic literacy and numeracy. As neetykeeno said...women can't even do as good a job taking care of kids. Traditional occupations for women like nursing and teaching demand liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:38 PM
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That sounds fucking insane. Maybe the Taliban would go for that crap. I doubt even the Saudis would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:02 AM
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Two!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:38 AM
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Patriarchy was a grainfarmer thing. Are we going to have physical strength differences mean a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:35 AM
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Three or four. Tammy also has a crowd of suitors interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:00 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:56 PM
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How unstable was she? Was there a real risk that you would be maimed, killed, or thrown in jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:55 PM
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Sure. But plenty of guys are totally willing to be nurses and caretakers for 600 pound women on top of full time jobs. Average looking or slightly below dudes, too, in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:58 PM
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Still. Lots were very heavy and were with average guys. More than a few met guys when they were five or six hundred pounds. The guys took care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 05:56 PM
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And what about all the other 600lb women with caretakers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:37 PM
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My 600lb Life. Hell. Look at Tammy Slaton. She had guys lined up to take care of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:48 PM
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Her needing a nurse and caretaker, if it wasn't due to something genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:11 PM
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Jobless Six hundred pound women can easily get in relationships with average looking guys that work and are willing to take care of her. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:05 PM
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I always thought Lindsey Vonn was a better fit for Tiger. Vonn is an adrenaline junkie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:27 PM
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Keep being a blunt bitch. You're also kinda caring. And your self described apathy can be a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:24 PM
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At that point, I should be an attending physician; let me know if we're both still on here then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:44 PM
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Yeah. Are you on a transplant list?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:37 PM
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This. You can be 600 pounds and not have a job and guys will be LINED UP to take care of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:51 PM
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I've heard tales of women leaving their husbands because they cried when their children died of cancer. If that's not an okay time for a man to cry, what is? I'd be surprised if a man didn't cry when going through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:22 PM
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Autosomal dominant, I'm guessing. Hopefully you can get a kidney. Good luck with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:03 AM
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Yeah. Stuff that either keeps you hot, or where being hot confers an advantage. The pickup basketball court is going to be taller than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:27 PM
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Hmm. Rough ballpark: not obese, can run a mile in 12 minutes or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:25 PM
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Yeah. Unless you are running your own lab at a world class university and have done so for twenty years, or you are making a living off being charismatic, you haven't tried hard enough. It's basically understood that disabled people should be celibate for life. Think on that for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:41 AM
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Yeah. The short factory worker with the thick glasses doesn't envision the 500lb wife in his future as a young man. But he has a couple of kids and if she can do basic hygiene it's not too bad a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:38 AM
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They can easily get them...at 90% scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:31 AM
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It's pretty damn bad for short dudes unless they're future neurosurgeons with enough charisma for a career in politics. I know eight short guys, 5'5 or less. Only the future neurosurgeon has a girlfriend that's sane and not morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:26 AM
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This, six hundred pound women can get okay looking guys with jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:23 AM
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180+? Try 280+.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:21 AM
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Short jacked guy + morbidly obese woman is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:21 AM
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Plenty of young couples like that. Slim or even fit guys with morbidly obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:19 AM
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I'm a guy, so I focus more on male issues. But the plight of unattractive women can be just as bad. Imagine being autistic and raped a few times by predators. Or winding up in a relationship with an alcoholic because you are unattractive and overweight... but aren't addicted to anything and have most of your shit together. I am saying that it might be better for very unattractive people not to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:45 PM
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It may well be empty if he has requirements like "does basic hygiene" and "not a danger to herself or others". Those seem like pretty reasonable requirements. Maybe he might say that he is single because he doesn't really like hospitals and jails...and his dating pool is going to lead him there, as visitor or inmate/patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:56 PM
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In a lot of ways it is. A lot of people are just terrible partners. Most people would rather be single. How do you have a relationship with a homeless drug addict and stay out of the hospital and jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:00 PM
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Not all short men have miserable dating prospects. Most do. Most watch their partners die.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:50 AM
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You can be in decent shape, have a job, and that's still your dating pool. I'm talking...the 5'4" awkward IT guy? That's his dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:49 AM
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I'm guessing that the women are twice the weight of the short men? Or dangers to themselves or others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:18 AM
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Yep. Hopefully she doesn't fucking stab you. Seems like a rite of passage for unattractive dudes. I knew two guys whose girlfriends tried that. One blocked the knife, the other goddamn near died from blood loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:16 AM
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I'm surprised. Most autists, even ones with normal intellectual functioning, don't get married. Good on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:12 AM
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Bro, 600lb women have guys LINED UP to take care of them and wipe their butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:10 AM
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You should read the bitch manifesto. You're cool af and abrasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:09 AM
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I mean. Desexualization IS a thing. It is NOT "Eh... you're not my cup of tea" but "Gross, what the fuck, how can anyone drink that?". It's being told that you should never have a relationship because your best hope is finding a gold digger once you finally start making money at Google. It happens to very unattractive and disabled people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:07 AM
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You are ig'nant. Not ignorant. Ig'nant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:03 AM
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Societal pressure can get lots of people to do disgusting and dangerous things. Like war.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:02 AM
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On some level. But low enough standards gets you a LOT of hassle. Would you date a homeless drug addict? A schizophrenic who can't hold down a job, any job?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:59 AM
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And if all else fails, there's always the surgeon's knife!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:58 AM
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Eh. Men love Bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:44 AM
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Yeah. That sounds about right. It's hard for autistic women, too...they often have good relationships but pay through the nose to get them. Predators go for the isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:01 PM
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Dude, you're autistic, you're expected to be celibate for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:20 PM
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Bruuuuuuh six hundred pound women can easily get guys to take care of them and wipe their butts. Good luck doing that as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:12 AM
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Bruh you can be 600lbs and have a guy wipe your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:11 AM
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Sis, there's six hundred pound women being taken care of by decent guys. Not the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:10 AM
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Relationships are suffering and tragedy for the unattractive. Simple as. You are not in the business of being in a relationship in order to make your life easier. You are in the relationship to make her life easier. It is like having another child and you had better be willing and able to step up and be a single father for a baby twice your weight. That is within the reach of a lot of low value men. I've seen it done: fit short bodybuilders with decent jobs in things like IT with women that were…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:11 PM
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Plenty of guys willing to go for a "natural" unimproved woman. Basic hygiene plus not being a danger to herself or others is enough for a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:15 PM
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That sounds weird. And exceptional. I've seen some short guys that were fairly impressive on paper wind up with women too fat to properly wipe their own asses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:18 AM
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Hire more CNAs. Pay them more. Turning patients is grunt work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:49 PM
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Toxic masculinity is a feature, not a bug. In some ways. It's still nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:34 PM
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A million a year and enough charisma for a career in politics would do it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:00 PM
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Not morbidly obese. That's enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:17 AM
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Below 5'5" it is fucking rough for dudes. Those guys are either exceptional or deciding where they want the ambulances.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:06 AM
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What about VanillaHippo? Or the woman with butterfly wings from my 600lb life. Wild card: Dolly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:37 AM
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You and a lot of other guys. Plenty of guys lined up to get with women like Tammy Slaton. Even needing someone to wipe their butt doesn't seem to be much of a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:31 AM
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5'5" and under. That's when you need to be a millionaire or something to be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:24 AM
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Average or above. Not morbidly obese + not disabled = average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:24 AM
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Be kind and caring. Work hard. Have your stuff together. Don't be afraid to be, or date, a bitch, if they're caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:09 AM
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Not nearly as much as men adore bitches. I mean guys absolutely cannot get enough of blunt disagreeable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:06 AM
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Yeah. It's none of my business. But human frailty is more terrible in the ghetto. I hope your grandparents weren't shitbags. the neurosis might be ghetto plus shitbag parents. Your parents seem like remarkable people, to be honest. Hopefully they didn't have to overcome dumbass shithead parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:05 AM
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IDK. I think it is a lot more common in the children of those that clawed their way out of poverty. The driven immigrant tiger parent is a thing for example. Also anger at the sheer level of DIPSHITS that you sometimes see. Were your grandparents shitty human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:31 AM
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400lb women do this and have guys lined up to be in relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:53 PM
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Yes. These men should instead... well. There are no good options for most of them, only least bad. They should decide where they want the ambulances, if they want a relationship. Consider themselves lucky to find a woman that can hold a job, any job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:00 PM
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Yeah. Like what the hell. I understand a man who hasn't had many partners not wanting someone that's slept with fifty men. But ONE casual encounter being disqualifying? A hell of a lot of young people do risky fun shit once or twice and decide it's not for them. Hell, that sort of thing is actively encouraged on some level for middle class and up young people. Authority figures find a way to look the other way, as long as those involved are reasonably conscientious about it and don't get too wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:01 PM
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Quasimodo done goofed by wanting a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:17 PM
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Peterson doesn't seem that stupid or desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:16 PM
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Luckily, Seth can afford the best weight loss drugs, personal trainers, and plastic surgeons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:15 PM
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It can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:24 AM
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Roughly how old were you when you had your first relationship? Like. I'm honestly genuinely surprised here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:24 AM
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Uh. Men love bitches. A woman who has short hair, makes crass jokes, womanspreads, swears like a sailor, and doesn't wear makeup or shave her legs will do just fine dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:19 AM
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Creepy/dangerous is an interesting one for a woman to get. Are you like really tall and strong? I could see weird though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:16 AM
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She doesn't need to do that as long as she can hold down a job, any job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:14 AM
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I wonder why...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:10 AM
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That surprises me a little. Were you isolated, did you have few friends? Are you neurotypical? By your account you're at worst slightly below average... and 600 pound women have guys taking care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:02 PM
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Yeah. Also in this day and age Carfax exists, you can see if a car's had accidents, you can take a car for a test drive. It's not entirely lemons, and if you look like you know what you're doing lemon sellers are often going to cut the shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:03 PM
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There's no polite way to ask this: were you morbidly obese before you started rock climbing? Do you have anything like a facial deformity or something that would hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:56 PM
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Yes. Agreed. I'll say that it's harder for them than their fathers... but even so. You need a big circle of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:39 AM
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Yep. I would add church and regional burning man festivals to that list. Unitarian Universalists, if he's atheist or agnostic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:38 AM
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Yep. The bottom and top are pretty similar in some ways. At the bottom nobody cares. At the top, nobody can stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:33 AM
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Yeah. If you are five foot four or on the spectrum you are facing a huge uphill battle. I've known people that have overcome both, though. You can be a fit, well liked guy with either and need to be exceptional just to be average. Like. I personally feel like one of the best outcomes I can have is basically being a nurse and caretaker in middle age. Because I'm on the spectrum and kind of ugly... even if I'm a physician earning a quarter million a year... women will find this fundamentally repul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:21 PM
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I was thinking infantry officer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:25 AM
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Once, at 16: deeply cynical and sad, though with good reason. A decent person, though. Anorexia. I just can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:21 AM
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Yep. Gold diggers go where the gold is. You don't find them digging gold in some random field in Iowa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:19 AM
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You can rock climb for the forearms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:44 AM
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Closer to the true Chad: the martial aristocrat. The fit, confident man who has the life-and-death loyalty of the close friends he grew up with in time of war. And in peace is kind, well-mannered, graceful, and self-controlled. An officer and a gentleman: the last vestiges of that are found at West Point. Maybe powerful drug lords and crime bosses are that way as well... I know of a couple who are very well-read. Like...the Crips and Bloods modeled their 1992 truce after the Arab-Israeli ceasefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:42 AM
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Yep. These STEMlords need to go to war. Or failing that, some kind of life and death struggle. You really don't want to know how the sausage is made. It makes TRP look like a Sunday school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:37 AM
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I mean. Autism is very unattractive. At least in males; autistic women usually have relationships and do okay...if they manage to survive the pack of predators circling like sharks. I've heard some tales. But this aside, if you are very unattractive for any reason you play by different rules and unless you are exceptional in some way you are transgressive simply because you want sex and relationships. Are spergs too damned clueless to know that they're being discriminated against? Not that this …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:35 AM
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I wonder how many of them have parents that clawed their way out of poverty and violence. Growing up hearing Mom have nightmares about the violence she saw in the ghetto or hearing Dad tell about the times he was chased by knife wielding thugs from the trailerpark is going to make you really want to be middle class...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:31 AM
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That is a hell of a lot of arrogance. I wonder if it would be good if nerds were told that 1) Being openly interested in sex and relationships is a privilege, not a right. Like the social version of having a driver's license. Without it, you are shunned for trying to drive. And 2) awkwardness is mildly harmful to your community. You have a duty to not be awkward and to compensate for it. Pay the awkward tax, or be shunned. I rather like said awkward people being seen as potential pedophiles or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:29 AM
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Engineers also...hmm. If you and your father and grandfather weren't very socially skilled but liked building things, maybe you will be an engineer as well. If you are an awkward bricklayer you might find yourself being laid off or fired before the others. If you are an awkward engineer but very good at what you do people will put up with the awkwardness. Also engineers don't feel an immensely strong sense of duty to be more graceful...the concept that if they are awkward they have in some way f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:26 AM
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Yeah. Kind of insane killing a fly with a cannonball, but war as rite of passage for STEMlords could work. I wonder how they would do as infantry officers. I think the survivors would be more attractive if they came home in one piece. I've seen combat veterans literally nearly dead from alcoholism with girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:21 AM
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They might be with morbidly obese single moms and functional alcoholics. Some of them are. Middle class guys prefer to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:18 AM
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Yeah. Now, if he owned a dozen HVAC repair shops that's different. A hundred and he's a pretty decent size fish. A thousand and doctors are tipping their hats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:16 AM
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Gold diggers go for them sometimes if they have gold to dig.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:14 AM
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I have a longer reply for tomorrow, but Silicon Valley is full of fit multimillionaire virgins. Not all are asocial. I knew a special forces officer who settled hard - sanity wise - with his wife. Green Berets aren't socially incompetent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 01:14 AM
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His acquaintances KILLED THEIR PARTNERS?!
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 01:32 AM
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Idk. There's a lot of distance between Joe Average, a deformed homeless guy, and a billionaire that looks like a male model.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 01:27 AM
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Yeah. The halo effect exists though.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 01:26 AM
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Yeah. Hell. TikTok is even worse than Instagram and Facebook. Zuckerberg just wants his huge pile of cash to be larger. Maybe he cooperates with NSA spooks or something. But Zuck's Chinese counterpart is in bed with the CCP and these guys not only want to make a boatload of cash but weaken us and fuck us up. And spy on us. Not that we wouldn't do the same... but these guys ain't our friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:12 AM
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THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:47 AM
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I'll argue that a lot of unattractive people are poor partners, some through no fault of their own. Would you want a schizophrenic partner in and out of the local psych ward? Dude could have been a fucking Boy Scout before his first psychotic break in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:44 AM
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No. My premise is that being a healthy short guy is better than being a woman with an autoimmune disease. If women that have it worse than healthy manlets don't end it, then women that instantly became healthy manlets wouldn't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:14 PM
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Women have boxes to tick off for that too Six hundred pound women have partners that are their nurses and caretakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:05 PM
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If women were sentenced to the rest of their lives as the common straight man (especially if short of stature) during their prime, they’d give up and check out early with a Glock/noose. Disagree. Disabling autoimmune disease is worse than being single for life. Women with those diseases usually don't try to end things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:04 PM
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Yeah. Most guys don't like riding shotgun in ambulances.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:12 PM
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Five years?! Is lifetime alimony a thing anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:57 PM
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Yep. Unless your standards are so low that it gets you killed maimed or thrown in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:54 PM
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Yep. It's harder but very possible for women to be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:52 PM
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4: MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION MOTHERFUCKER. Hand grenades are perfectly good self defense weapons. You can't subjugate or enslave a corpse much, especially if said individual takes you with them. It is a way for an indoor with a hand grenade to force a draw from a stronger player.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:28 AM
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I mean. Stabbing yourself repeatedly might be a (deranged) test of your ability to both do research and endure pain. Figure out how not to hit anything important. Maybe use a dull ice pick instead of a knife, you might push arteries aside instead of cutting them. And read up on anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:23 AM
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Ya biiiiitch you'd want to tie his ass up and whip him a bit. Naked of course, and after carefully negotiating the scene. Maybe you'd get a strap-on and fuck him up the ass. Like. 'keeno you're kinda a bitch and that's one of the ways it manifests. I think bitch is beautiful for what it's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:05 AM
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Yep. If you kinda suck as a person and are at a disadvantage that sucks ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:56 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Big Pharma shelved an SSRI before it made it to market due to sexual dysfunction side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:53 AM
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My parents did both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:44 AM
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