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Damn, I can't imagine being 20 lbs heavier. The most I've ever been was 170 and that was fat. My body fat is probably around 20%. Cutting that down would probably bring me to 150. It would take a few bulk cut cycles to get my muscle up that high. Right now I feel fat and it's showing in my face.
/r/askTRP17/01/20 05:19 PM
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Thanks. I'm actually thinking about getting her number. It seems a little weird at first because she's right there but it makes sense to have if I want to talk to her.
/r/askTRP17/01/20 05:15 PM
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And that's what I was asking. Should I just knock on her door and ask her out or wait till the next time I see her on the go?
/r/askTRP16/01/20 11:08 PM
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Now that I think about it, we've probably already had that conversation months ago as we were walking to our cars, well I'm sure we had just enough talking time to say where each of us was working and then promptly forgot. That said I want to move beyond having a random 20 second conversation with her every week or so
/r/askTRP16/01/20 10:47 PM
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Umm, just talk to her when you see her. And say what? A common scenario is I leave my apartment for work in the morning and then I run into her leaving for work as well then we have about 20 seconds of walking to our cars together. I wouldn't though, because this is shitting where you sleep. Thanks but I'll worry about any possible repercussions. The risk is worth it to me.
/r/askTRP16/01/20 09:57 PM
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Similarly for short guys, get wide. When you can pick women up and twirl them over your head, that's when you get the "he's not normally my type, but..." Being visibly STRONG is how you overcome being short, bar none. How big are we talking here? I'm 5'5, 160 lbs. I've got a decent amount of muscle on me (the most I've ever had actually) but I need to cut the fat down. At 38 no matter how much I work out I'm never going to reach the level where I can look like I can twirl a woman with one arm ov…
/r/askTRP16/01/20 09:36 PM
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For some reason I almost never get any eye contact. Though I wonder if it was just the environment. I almost never see girls by themselves. I'll keep my eyes open for that. I wish more girls were out alone, it's weird trying to talk to two or more girls when I'm alone. But that seems to be the norm. How do you have conversations in a really loud environment? Starting one seems really awkward.
/r/seduction27/10/19 07:40 PM
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Hmm, the place I've been to seems like it's a party bar. It has a few levels and there was loud music throughout. I'll see if there are cocktail bars around. I'm not really worried about people wanting to fight but it is hard to have a conversation in a loud environment. Though I wonder if it's easier to get laid from a girl you meet in a club.
/r/seduction27/10/19 07:37 PM
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I can always go back to downtown later in the evening. Is there a best time? I actually live really close to my job. It's just that traffic sucks during the day. At my skill level I don't expect to take any girls home. It would be nice to have some good experiences.
/r/seduction27/10/19 03:32 PM
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How do you stop being desperate when you haven't had sex in a long time?
/r/seduction27/10/19 02:52 PM
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Do you show that negativity to people in real life?
/r/seduction27/10/19 02:50 PM
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OK I have no idea why this post is so highly rated. Nothing seems like an actual way to make a girl excited about you. How are these Connecting to your body Building a safe environment Being in the flow Related to having sex on the first date. How did you two end up having sex on the first date anyways? Did you ask if you can kiss her? You didn't try to escalate so she came on to you? Last year I had two really great dates with a girl where everything seemed to be going right then when I tried t…
/r/seduction27/10/19 02:48 PM
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Wow old post. I wish short girls weren't the pickiest it makes sense that the short girls would want short guys. Hah I got a big nose, I hate how my voice sounds and I stumble my words alot. At least you're good looking. That should help.
/r/seduction09/02/19 08:12 PM
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I don't care about a reference from Target. Did you read that it was a part-time job to cover some bills? I already have a full-time job.
/r/askTRP04/02/19 07:28 PM
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I'm not happy because I haven't had any sex, intimacy or companionship in three years. Nobody man or woman would be happy in those situations. It has nothing to do with spending time with friends and hobbies.
/r/seduction02/02/19 02:29 PM
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I'm currently reading though the Tao of Badass. It's very informative and seems to break things down. A little preview can be found here. Never had a girlfriend.
/r/seduction24/01/19 04:31 PM
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The advice is helpful but nothing I haven't heard before. For a couple years I've been trying very hard to become the type of man that women want. Results are very slow but I'm making some progress. What's very frustrating is that I still have not gotten any results and don't know how far I have to go until I start to get something. Also I'm 37 and I don't think I'll find something that can be my purpose or passion. Most men don't have anything like that and they manage to get by with women. How…
/r/seduction21/01/19 07:32 PM
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Yeah normally the girl should be nexted in that situation. But she was the only girl I was spending time with and the closest I had gotten to a GF in three years. So I felt trapped. Leaving would just mean that I was alone again.
/r/seduction21/01/19 01:30 AM
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More important than no longer being single? You. But not longer being single means I'm happy. Also I feel that everything I work for is to make a woman happy and be able to provide a life she wants. If I was to be single for the rest of my life I would have no ambition at all and work dead end jobs just so I can have enough money to pay rent and play video games. A relationship will never work unless if you’d be contempt without that relationship, else you’ll constantly be needy and afraid the r…
/r/seduction21/01/19 01:13 AM
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Maybe it wasn't your neediness and being available, but your apparent disinterest and venting about other women. What I mean to say, is if there is an emotional connection between the two of you, why bother going out of your way to project an abundance mentality? You make a great point. Honestly I don't know what I was thinking when I started to talk to her about other women. In the beginning I focused solely on her. Then after she declined my 2nd kiss attempt I started to talk about other girls…
/r/seduction21/01/19 12:41 AM
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Oh I do focus on myself. That's how I manage to get by. I'm almost always alone so I focus on myself and my goals most of my time. Then eventually The Girl comes into my life and I think that she'll be the one who will save me. I do everything I can possibly think of to get her, but I screw up and then she leaves and I'm alone again. I've been doing this for the past 12 or so years since I was 25. So I'm working on my goals, then The Girl crosses my life and she's all that matters. Yes I can see…
/r/seduction21/01/19 12:10 AM
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I'm currently studying for two IT certifications so I can move to the next stage in my career. Though I don't see how a challenge in life can trivialize wanting to be in an LTR. I'm 37 years old. Two of my younger cousins just had kids with their spouses. All of my coworkers are married with kids. I really want to get married. While I didn't imagine the last girl as my wife I was imagining what it would be like if I was able to seriously date her and bring her to my family Christmas party etc.
/r/seduction21/01/19 12:01 AM
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Simple, stop prioritizing women so highly in your conscious mind. If only it was that simple. Unless you are clearly seeking a LTR Yes I am absolutely seeking a LTR. It's my number one goal in life. what makes the current girl so special? She was the only one who I manged to get close to. I could go into many reasons why she was special to me and things I liked about her, but in the end, she was the only woman giving me attention. That's pretty much been the pattern of my life where I'm either a…
/r/seduction20/01/19 11:17 PM
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It's not really about the women, more about my reaction to them. It doesn't even really have to be more than a couple of months. I know I should move on to other women but there is nobody else so I stick around.
/r/seduction20/01/19 11:12 PM
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Funny how you say I'm out of energy and also mention exercise. Yes I'm out of energy. Once that girl rejected me my energy levels plummeted. I wake up every day around 3:30-4 AM including today and I'm just exhausted all day. Though I do manage to drag my tired ass to the gym and somehow barely get through my sets. I'm going to go to the gym after work today. I can try saying hi to girls, but don't expect me to be able to smile. The last time I had a funk like this, I only got out of because a w…
/r/seduction07/01/19 01:16 PM
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Oh that's interesting. I'm an ISTP or ISTJ. In other words it's absolutely not the personality type of the guy who can approach hundreds of women a day. What I hate the most about the study of seduction is that there is so little focus on the warm approach. Women you interact with on a semi-regular basis. That girl you run into the at the office once or twice a week, the girl you have one class with, the girl in your kick ball team that you see once a week. How do you game those girls?
/r/seduction06/01/19 04:23 PM
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Yeah .. so what? It takes tremendous energy to come up with excuses and retreat from every attractive girl and rationalise why you're not getting success and why pickup is lame too. Actually it takes very little energy to just stay at home and use Reddit or play video games. This is one reason why I'm very jealous of women. If a woman is feeling down in the dumps and just wants some human contact and to get laid all she has to do is go to Tinder and there is a near limitless supply of men who wi…
/r/seduction06/01/19 02:23 PM
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OK, then what's the alternative?
/r/seduction06/01/19 02:18 PM
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In my case it was a rejection from a close female friend that I was trying to work on for a few months. I feel that I've done enough reflecting on trying to figure out what went wrong. Now I want to move on. I was at the gym yesterday. Having fun by myself is hard when I just got so used to having fun with her. It's been a long time since I had some real intimacy with a girl and she was the closet thing I had to it in years.
/r/seduction06/01/19 02:31 AM
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You need to have abundance bro. Just get more women. Be confident. Jk ... Haha, it's amazing how common that mindset is here. Start off small ... say hi to hundreds of girls, Eh, that requires a ton of energy.
/r/seduction06/01/19 02:28 AM
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How do you find your charisma style?
/r/seduction06/01/19 12:44 AM
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If it lets you sleep better at night, sure, believe it. Which is exactly what I need.
/r/seduction03/01/19 02:22 PM
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She didn't tell me her ideal, she told me, a white guy, that she's only attracted to Puerto Rican men. In reality it was her telling me, "Please understand, I'm not attracted to you."
/r/seduction03/01/19 01:21 PM
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I've heard that as well that women don't really know what they want Though I'm sure a women is able to tell you that she doesn't like you. Also women don't want to directly reject you, especially if they care about you.
/r/seduction02/01/19 07:02 PM
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Instead of getting a "date" you should just hang out with her and have fun. That's why I used the "" for "date" instead of just saying date. My point still stands that there will be other guys who want to hangout with her as well.
/r/seduction26/12/18 06:26 PM
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I obviously have, which is how I know that not every woman is a social butterfly who has her number floating around a group of thirsty guys. I don't understand this perspective that all women are equally bombarded by a constant barrage of penis, or how it is helpful to think like that. And I've seen it first hand where a chick friend was responding to texts out loud when she was sitting next to me. It was pretty eye opening. Though no, not all women are drowning in a pit full of sausage, but som…
/r/seduction26/12/18 03:56 PM
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Unless you're banging women the same day you meet them which a very small number of guys actually do; you'll have to set up a "date" with her. That's when you're just another option to her.
/r/seduction26/12/18 03:46 PM
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I'm assuming you've never seen a single woman go through her phone and respond to text messages? The mindset is, "Women a ton of options, I need to have lots of options too." Which means to put in the work and have actual options and to be attractive and know how to communicate so the women will choose to spend time with you instead of her dozens of other options.
/r/seduction26/12/18 03:32 PM
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Approaching is such a small part of the seduction process. The most important thing is getting a woman to go on a "date" with you. That's when a woman having dozens of options becomes important. She only has so much time or interest in dating for that matter.
/r/seduction26/12/18 03:07 PM
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His post wasn't about approaching.
/r/seduction26/12/18 03:04 PM
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Yeah it sucks but that's life. Women, even the plane looking ones get so much attention from men it's insane. What you need to do is understand that no one woman is special until you hook up with her, and you need to force yourself to talk to many girls at once. The worst situation to be in is to only have one girl you are spending time with because if she decides to hang out with another guy instead, your shit outta luck.
/r/seduction26/12/18 03:01 PM
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No it's right. When you text a girl to invite her to hang out with you, she'll most likely already have a dozen guys asking her as well. That's when she's comparing you to many guys and deciding which one she wants to hang out with.
/r/seduction26/12/18 02:57 PM
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I do wear boots that make me taller and I think I'm able to push 5'9. It still doesn't feel tall enough though.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/18 04:38 PM
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6'0.. I wonder what results you'd have if you were short. I want to try cold approaching again but as a 5'6 white guy I'm generally invisible to women when I go out.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/18 02:45 PM
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Thanks for the break down recyclablebanthas. It's now very clear that I went to fast with that girl. I really didn't care what she watned and I only had one thing on my mind, and I was focused on trying to rapidly escalate. In the past I had a huge problem with not escalating and kept getting friendzoned. Now I'm getting more comfortable (with the help of alcohol) I need to make sure I keep escalating but also pay attention to how the woman reacts and calibrate. Most important to me is that I re…
/r/seduction19/12/18 09:35 PM
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Fucking a bunch of women gets you nothing in life. Take it from someone who has. That is something that guys have to find out for themselves. Would you willingly never have sex again for the rest of your life? If not then you can't say that sex is nothing special.
/r/seduction17/12/18 09:57 PM
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Was it, as I suggested, in much the same buddy buddy way that guys might arm jab? Was it long or short contact? You're leaving out quite a bit here. How and when were you touching her arm? How and when EXACTLY did this part go down? In any event, usually girls will flinch away or otherwise adjust their personal space before resorting to verbal warnings or declarations like that. So what you had there was a girl whose non-verbal feedback you ignored long enough for her to awkwardly resort to verb…
/r/seduction17/12/18 07:50 PM
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ROFL! 5 minutes into the date the woman told me that touching her arm made her feel uncomfortable. So I focused on conversation for a while then trying to reengage the touching again about 20 minutes in. Once she she had finished her drink after about an hour into the date she told me that she wasn't feeling and that she didn't like me touching her, and I had actually really toned down my level of touch but it was still too much for her. I was hoping to have sex with her tonight but no, I just c…
/r/seduction15/12/18 05:40 AM
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If you want to have deliberate control over the tension levels, the minimum bar of entry is the ability to express what you want, an awareness of what she wants and her emotional state, and the ability to balance these two things. Having these things down, what you do to raise the tension is showing your desire, Those things should be easy right? Yet for some reason that seems way out there for me. Hmm, I think my past experiences with women and constantly hearing that women are people too and t…
/r/seduction14/12/18 03:59 AM
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You and I have discussed this, I'm pretty sure. Possibly. I need to go over all my posts on this forum and do some reviewing. I have another date tomorrow and she seems to be more into hooking up versus the last girl. She wants to meet up for drinks at 10 so... Being so distracted about wanting to talk about sexual things, that you failed to follow-up well on what she said to you. Honestly I completely forget about all matters related to sex and I just go into friend conversation mode. Frankly t…
/r/seduction14/12/18 03:40 AM
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That's basically the same example as the necklace. The main key for tension has to be conversation. I got stuck last night talking about her job and the city we're in. Nothing sexual at all and I coudn't figure out how to change the topic.
/r/seduction13/12/18 01:07 PM
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And if she's not wearing any jewellery or a necklace?
/r/seduction13/12/18 02:50 AM
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There's so many ways to create tension that the question is way too broad to answer, How about an example? I've got a date tonight with a random online girl. I would like to create some tension with her and hopefully bring her back to my place.
/r/seduction12/12/18 09:56 PM
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That's what you do once there is tension.
/r/seduction12/12/18 09:16 PM
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How do you create tension besides eye contact? Edit: And I just had a pretty bad date because there was no tension at all. I just listened to her talk for an hour. Yes I maintained eye contact but that's not enough to make her want to fuck you. It was a waste of my time and money.
/r/seduction12/12/18 08:02 PM
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Since you were a regular and already had an established rapport, it's likely that the same result would have happened if you had asked for her number. Though if it is your first meeting and there isn't heavy flirting going on, no numbers shouldn't be exchanged.
/r/seduction12/12/18 06:03 PM
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Of course. I'm not saying that what she did was right.
/r/seduction12/12/18 05:11 PM
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Yeah dude, that's normal for girls who work retail. In her mind she's just doing her job then this random guy gives her his number.
/r/seduction12/12/18 04:49 PM
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How did you decide that she was interested in you and it was appropriate to slip her your number?
/r/seduction12/12/18 04:39 PM
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Fake profiles are very common on all swipe apps.
/r/seduction12/12/18 02:29 PM
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Thanks for the link and writing about this. I always knew my self-esteem and confidence were bad. Really really bad. They are both based on accomplishments. And for some reason I have very few accomplishments that I care about and I struggle in many of those things I care about, the two most important to me are women and money, getting laid and getting paid. I haven't gotten laid in a very long time and I'm making far less money that I should be making for a man my age. I struggle with women and…
/r/seduction10/12/18 02:36 AM
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Hah well then it's a good thing I've never heard of him.
/r/seduction08/12/18 06:17 PM
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5 is a non-fat average. Hollywood guys are 9-10. Then just try to feel out where you fit between average and really good looking.
/r/seduction08/12/18 05:26 PM
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Never heard of him. Though after a little bit of research he's a normal looking dude. I'm probably better looking that he is and I'm more fit. But he's got a beard and he's 6'4. Women probably think he's a 7. The height gives him a huge advantage. I'm 5'5 and can't grow a beard so women think I'm a 4. BTW, this is what I said in the last part of my previous post I wish I could find a short PUA that wasn't really good looking. Just an average looking short guy like me.
/r/seduction08/12/18 05:14 PM
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There's been a tonne of really handsome 'PUA's' starting channels in the last year or 2 on youtube (people like James Tusk, that black dude (vikinglifestyles?), the dude who posts here (getinthevan or something?) and loads more. All just handsome dudes!) and even though they can't help being handsome, it makes lots of their tips etc kinda useless and you can't help but feel like they're getting results in SPITE of their ''game' as opposed to 'because of it' lol. Very good point I'd almost say th…
/r/seduction08/12/18 02:38 PM
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For a while I thought about following Max because he's short like I am, though I'm shorter, except he is just far better looking than I am. Girls basically ignore me while girls give him the IOIs. I wish I could find a short PUA that wasn't really good looking. Just an average looking short guy like me.
/r/seduction08/12/18 01:53 PM
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Fuck this country Don't let door hit you on the way out.
/r/seduction07/12/18 04:43 PM
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Don't be afraid to have a little sexual banter. That line is why I made this thread. I don't know how to start sexual banter. Last week I went on two first dates and the conversation never turned sexual. I have a date on Friday with a different girl and I'm worried about making the same mistake.
/r/askTRP05/12/18 04:29 PM
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Great emotional high doesn't mean any sort of shit connection thing, it means being challenging - teasing her, doing push-pull, qualify/disqualify her, and of course escalate things physically OK that's all stuff I need to practice with. For that you should consider yourself as someone whom she should chase. I'm not there yet. I don't expect anybody to chase me. That's why I feel I need to be much more direct with my intentions.
/r/seduction05/12/18 03:02 PM
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Honestly the best sex I've ever had was from an overweight black girl. She loved to give blowjobs, always swallowed. Down for sex whenever I wanted and she even initiated many times. Those were better days.
/r/seduction05/12/18 01:32 AM
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Pretty much yes. All of the women who have replied to my opening message have been fat. I'm in the planning stages of arranging a date with another fat woman now. I haven't gotten laid in far too long so fat girl pussy is better than no pussy.
/r/seduction05/12/18 12:57 AM
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Don't expect women on Tinder to reply to you. Odds are you only have a 1/10 chance of getting a reply. The odds may be higher if she's fat/ugly.
/r/seduction04/12/18 11:51 PM
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Hahah! Yeah I thought she may have seen my post. She said that she didn't think we were a match. I did tell her that I want to improve and asked her to tell me one thing she liked about me and one thing she didn't. She said it wasn't about those things and instead about her not feeling a connection. In other words there was something about me she didn't like. Anyways I wished her well and that's over.
/r/seduction04/12/18 10:48 PM
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Why do you assume you did something wrong. Because over all it's the same result every time. Girl doesn't like me and/or only wants to be friends. I'm 37 and I'm getting tired of playing the game without ever winning. maybe she's not a good fit for you. I didn't know her long enough to make that decision. I didn't pick up any red flags from her. You see this happens all the time. It's always the guys fault and the girl is almost never at fault. Isn't just how things are? The women are the choose…
/r/seduction04/12/18 07:52 PM
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Oh I know she was having a good time. That was obvious. It's also why she agreed to a second date, picked the activity and offered to buy drinks. She just changed her mind about wanting to see me again between then and now. Now I'm wondering if I should have been more direct with her since I essentially had nothing to lose. Meaning I should have tried to kiss her, maybe be more sexual. If she didn't want to go on a 2nd date with me the end result would still have been the same. I feel like all o…
/r/seduction04/12/18 07:17 PM
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Not fucking a girl on the first date is called slow. I have only fucked a girl on the first date once in my entire life. And even then we met on an online forum first and were talking for weeks before we actually met up. The only other girl I've had sex with was my ex and we had sex on date 4 or something plus we were in a class first for months. So I don't really have any experience with quick sex. She don't need to know you well to decide if she want to have sex or not. Same way I'm almost sur…
/r/seduction04/12/18 07:06 PM
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I know you are trying to figure this thing out so you can do better next time, but trust me! Forget about it. That doens't help me. I want to know what I did wrong so I won't repeat the mistake. I actually asked her if she liked or didn't like anything about me and I got the connection line and there isn't anything I can do with that. I'm so tired of girls not liking me.
/r/seduction04/12/18 06:55 PM
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The whole idea of having to make some sort of connection the first time you meet somebody is just weird to me. We're just strangers. All there is is just a feeling of "this person seems a bit interesting and I'm attracted to them." Yeah I'm confused. Also I rarely go on dates. This was the second girl I've had a date with in at least three years. I just started the online dating thing. Honestly I don't really care about a connection anymore. The last girl I felt a connection with is dating someb…
/r/seduction04/12/18 06:53 PM
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She lost interest in you So that's probably what she meant by not feeling a connection. I wonder what I could have done differently to maintain that interest. Maybe I should have tried to kiss her that night?
/r/seduction04/12/18 06:49 PM
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I'm guessing she means the lack of "chemistry". Yeah that's the same generic thing. I might as well have said she didn't feel chemistry. That still doesn't answer anything. She could've also be entertaining someone else, cuz I'm sure you're not the only one who has approached her online. I'm sure she had many guys she was also talking to. It probably wasn't meant to be, Honestly I hate this line so freaking much. It's used for just about every girl that goes wrong. I don't have any attachment to…
/r/seduction04/12/18 05:02 PM
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How do you build an emotional connection with somebody you just met? I had fun taking to her and maybe a relationship would have been possible. Though at first I need to know that something more than friendship can happen. To me that means that getting physical has to happen quickly or else I get friendzoned. I seriously doubt I was too physical with her and I didn't try to kiss her.
/r/seduction04/12/18 04:26 PM
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I'm not an advocate of banging a girl you're not that into just because you can, what's the pleasure in that? I love having sex and I have no issuing having sex with girls I don't actually like. Of course I prefer to sleep with girls I'm really into. But if I limited myself to those women I would basically never get laid. Right now I desperately need the boost that sex can give me. And before you suggest anything, it can't be paid for as the sense of accomplishment from seducing a woman is also …
/r/askTRP04/12/18 09:59 AM
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Listen guy, sexual escalation isn't about comfort and familiarity. It's about passion, excitement, and desire Honestly, I don't really feel those things about her. I barely know her and she's not really my type. But she's a woman, and I haven't even kissed a woman in a few years. She seems to like me and she doesn't turn me off so I might as well go through with it to get some experience. So that's why I didn't try to kiss her on the first date. What you absolutely want to avoid is giving off th…
/r/askTRP04/12/18 03:54 AM
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That sounds cool but I don't have the level of confidence and game to pull that off. It's been a long time since I even kissed a girl.
/r/askTRP04/12/18 03:48 AM
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How old is she to want to suggest mini golf? She's late 20's early 30's. Why did you let her pick the one place that is basically screaming Because it seemed fun and she offered to bring booze. You said it yourself in the comments, the place closes late so you can't suggest meeting up a couple hours before the place closes and then bringing her back. I wasn't thinking about the closing time or that I should suggest meeting her at a certain time for certain reasons. I just wanted to schedule a 2n…
/r/seduction04/12/18 03:41 AM
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I would like to have sex with her sooner than later, but I don't want to mess things up. I wouldn't kick her out, but I can't imagine her wanting to stay the night. So I'm hoping she would be fine with sex and then leaving, or else there just won't be any sex.
/r/seduction03/12/18 09:49 PM
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Yeah I plan on roasting her a bit and just playing around. Getting her back to my place is what I'm not to sure about. I also don't know what time I should arrange to meet up.
/r/askTRP03/12/18 09:46 PM
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I'm in IT support. It's just for whatever reason my boss doesn't assign all the tasks to me that he should. I ask for more work, but oh well.
/r/TheRedPill03/12/18 07:51 PM
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Sounds good, I will try that!
/r/seduction03/12/18 06:48 PM
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Would she have to sleep over? I wonder if I should invite her over and then only plan to make out and set a third date for Friday or Saturday and have that be the sex date.
/r/seduction03/12/18 05:46 PM
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Eh, is it really going slow to not kiss on the first date when it's also the first time you met each other? That said I do plan on kissing her tomorrow. I'm wonder if I should try during the date or wait for the end. Sex would be nice but doesn't seem that likely. I'm still wondering if I should suggest going to a bar after we play or go back to my place.
/r/seduction03/12/18 04:11 PM
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Hmm, the mini golf place closes at 12 so I think getting there at 10:30 is a bit late considering we both work the next day. Would 8 be an OK time?
/r/seduction03/12/18 04:07 PM
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she keeps coming up with excuses about being busy. I've tried sending her messages and calling her every few weeks until now. We had plans to see each other a few days ago and she cancelled on me. Now that we've made plans for this week, she's completely ghosted me. ​ What's the deal? She doesn't like you. Next.
/r/seduction03/12/18 02:17 PM
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Where else can you get intimacy from other than a partner you are close to? IMO intimacy is the hardest to get, and it's not something even a FWB would give you.
/r/seduction02/12/18 10:41 PM
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Personally what I want from a woman is sex, intimacy and companionship. The first two are things I need that I can only get from women. I can't meet those needs on my own. Friends can only provide the last need.
/r/seduction02/12/18 06:58 PM
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I'm not advocating anything. I'm just trying to figure out how things work and why. As I said I never brought a girl home like that so I don't know what she would need. I do have experience bringing over girls I've known for a while so the necessary level of comfort has already been met. I'm primarily afraid of her cooling off and wanting to just be friends.
/r/seduction02/12/18 06:55 PM
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Yes I'm absolutely doubting myself. I recently got out of a situation with a friend/coworker where we were going to bars late at night and she would come back to my place but I didn't escalate and now she's seeing some other dude she started to do the same thing with and I'm sure he did escalate. So I'm absolutely terrified of making the same mistake again. Of course meeting a girl at a bar is a completey different situation but I'm still worried. The whole idea of bringing home a random girl st…
/r/seduction02/12/18 06:48 PM
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Because....?
/r/seduction02/12/18 06:21 PM
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Cool thanks, that's something to keep in mind. For me I have a huge problem with getting friendzoned so I assumed that if I don't try to escalate with a girl I'd get screwed, or in this case lack thereof. But then I realized that in this type of situation where I met a girl at a bar or club that night the only reason why she would be at my place is to bang. Oye it's complicated.
/r/seduction02/12/18 06:19 PM
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Once arriving home, open yourself up to her and show her something you are passionate about, you want to show her who you are on a deeper level (I promise you being vulnerable and showing your true colors are what women love to see). My go to is my book collection, women are fascinated by it and it often gives tons of conversation topics that eventually lead the girl sharing intimate passions and stories back. Once this connection is established, you've made it. Enjoy the rewards. Is that a bett…
/r/seduction02/12/18 05:13 PM
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The solution is to actually become “not needy”. Hah you just created a loop. Q: I'm poor, what can I do? A: Stop being poor. Dude that's not an answer. The way to stop being needy is to get the thing you need so it is no longer a big deal. The question is how.
/r/seduction02/12/18 05:10 PM
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If I was 6'3 I would have gotten so much pussy. Being black and 6'3 is 99x more attractive than being white and 5'5.
/r/seduction02/12/18 04:58 PM
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IMO you have to have some success first in order to not let the rejections get to you That is the key 100%. Constant rejection with no success will break anybody down. Once you get that one success it's easier to keep going, trying and failing. The hard part is getting that first success. It just seems to be nothing more than luck and persistence.
/r/seduction02/12/18 04:56 PM
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You sound needy man. How else would you expect somebody to be if they were a 24 year old virgin and haven't even kissed a girl yet?
/r/seduction02/12/18 04:54 PM
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Yes, of course every fat girl is exactly the same. If she's fat she must have terrible hygiene by default 🙄
/r/seduction02/12/18 04:47 PM
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If you're asking this, then you don't have a chance. Sorry. My "perfect girl" walked out of my life a month ago and she never wanted to be anything more than friends with me and ended up hooking up with another guy.
/r/seduction02/12/18 01:04 PM
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Hmm i could say something like "Focus on yourself and don't worry about girls, they will come later. Just live your life" but ehh that's been repeated too much. Great on you for pointing that out. That's just generic worthless advice. The fact is men can only be so happy with their hobbies and friends when they aren't getting laid. The longer it takes to have success and watching your peers succeed will really damage ones self-confidence no matter how much a guy is "focusing on himself and livin…
/r/seduction02/12/18 01:00 PM
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This is a problem I struggle with every single day. The girls I missed out on, old crushes, girls I should have dated etc. Heck I've even been keeping a list. Jessica, Hannah, Melissa, Nicole, Melissa, Justine, Rocio, Dominique, Hayley, Sarah, Krista, Chelsea, Kumiko, Chelsie, Danielle, Nicole, Avana, Jamiee, Analisse, Jennifer, Katheryne I should have dated and or at least hooked up with Dominique, Krista, Chelsie, Danielle, Avana, Analisse and Katheryne due to how close I was to each girl, how…
/r/seduction01/12/18 08:01 PM
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Of course the past exists. It defines who you are now. Take away the past, your memories and you'd be an entirely different person.
/r/seduction01/12/18 07:41 PM
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Cool, your path seems to be pretty similar to the one I'm on. Most likely my next job will be a sys admin or moving directly into entry level security. Once I start to get further into my net+ studies I'm going to ask my boss to let me start doing something with the switches. I was hired for a very limited role but if I show some knowledge and initiative he may let me expand what I'm doing. You're the first person I've ever heard suggest Powershell. Almost everybody I've asked said to learn Pyth…
/r/TheRedPill01/12/18 04:18 AM
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all things you listed as pros, are cons in my opinion Pros? LOL! I didn't list any pros. Everything is a huge con. You have it hard Damn right I do! Being short is a massive negative but surprisingly few people want to say it is. Of course I know I need to make more money. It's funny you called me a low rank nerd. I've always got the feeling that I'm the lowest paid member of the team whenever I'm in meetings, and I probably am. Doesn't really do much for my confidence which of course makes thin…
/r/TheRedPill01/12/18 02:40 AM
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Cool, 5 years sounds like a reasonable time frame. What was your path like? For some reason I keep getting jobs where I have less responsibilities but I'm getting paid more. My current job is the most I've ever made but I basically do nothing all day, it's really odd. So right now I'm going through Mike Myers Network+ videos and going through a self-paced Python course. Unfortunately I can't afford to make less money. I'm hoping to have my Net+ and Security+ by May and those should help me move …
/r/TheRedPill01/12/18 02:05 AM
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So you never rest in-between sets? 🙄
/r/TheRedPill01/12/18 01:28 AM
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Pre tax. No I'm not comfortable with my lifestyle. My income is low for my age, though I started college late and I essentially graduated at 33. So I've got about 3 years of experience in IT. I started at. 32k and want to hit 50k next year. Fitness, I want to lose my gut and trying to build muscle so I don't look small. I'm basically cutting and making sure to get enough protein.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/18 01:18 AM
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I'm 5'5, 37 years old and I make $42k in Texas. Where does that put me and what can I do? Yes I work out and I'm posting from the gym. I'm currently studying for my certs and I hope to move into IT security next year. I read several books a year; for pleasure and personal development.
/r/TheRedPill01/12/18 12:49 AM
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I'm a short poor guy. Depression has made it really hard to acquire the skills I need to move up in my career.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/18 12:18 PM
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"Usually it’s appearances and status. Short men are unattractive unless they have toned muscles or extraordinary features. Tom Cruise is short, but he has model looks so many women (not all) overlook his short stature. Fat guys are slightly better off then short guys, Wow it's the very first thing listed and it's worse than being fat. As a 5'5 white guy people wonder why I have low confidence. Frankly I wonder why I haven't killed myself already.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/18 12:12 PM
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That's why I said to to start with saying you like something she's wearing. When that becomes too easy then start complementing her smile, her eyes etc You want to keep progressing till you are able to tell her what you are really thinking. If you're feeling brave actually touch the jewelry that you are talking about. Baby steps.
/r/seduction24/11/18 09:35 PM
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That sounds terrifying. It can be, and most likely will be at first. How am I supposed to know what girls are into me if they never show interest? You won't. How am I supposed to know who to approach? Whoever you're attracted to. If you're at a party have something to drink, then walk up to a girl you think is pretty. Find something to talk to her about, anything with do to just get a conversation going. After a few minutes tell her that you like something about her, like if she's wearing a cool…
/r/seduction24/11/18 09:23 PM
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I never thought that "making the first move" ALSO meant literally having to do absolutely everything, including the most basic shit like smiling at a girl first and complimenting her. Welcome to being an average looking man. I was always led to believe that girls give signs of interest in order to invite guys to approach. If that's so then you've been misled. If you're a normal looking dude don't expect to ever receive signals from women. By their nature women are passive. You will have to do 10…
/r/seduction24/11/18 09:04 PM
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The simplest and best model for seduction is Attraction first > Comfort second > Seduction third. (Mystery Method). Basically you are skipping attraction and going to comfort. That's absolutely true. In the first 5-10 minutes as you engage a girl, watch for expressions of interest So then is it safe to say that I should eject after 10 minutes if I don't see any signs from her? Or at this point just keep talking and use her as practice? Thank you for going into more details! I need to master step…
/r/askTRP24/11/18 04:14 AM
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Awesome we'll written post. Someday soon I hope to be in a place where I can put those steps into action.
/r/seduction23/11/18 10:08 PM
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I end up falling for my female friends and of course I get friendzoned. Eventually without fail the friendship ends and I get hurt. So I'm taking a break from having female friends. Also I've never got any benefit from having female friends other than being able to enjoy their company. I never met their friends
/r/askTRP23/11/18 08:19 PM
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and have an exciting sex life to talk That's my goal. Right now though I'm on step 1. First I need to start getting laid however possible. Currently I don't have any female friends and I'm not looking to add more. The advice you’re getting is garbage It's mixed. Some good some bad. I value personal examples.
/r/askTRP23/11/18 03:25 PM
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It sounds like based on your questions that you want to know a friendly non confrontational way to sexualize a conversation. LOL pretty much. So I need to forget all about that. Be provocative and polarizing. Stir shit up. Make them uncomfortable, and be an asshole Shit why not? What I'm doing certainly isn't working. I've been so focused on trying to be likeable and hoping that women would just fall for me once they spend enough time with me. Time for a new approach.
/r/askTRP23/11/18 02:44 PM
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It's politeness and underlying that is a fear of rejection. If you are polite and pleasant you won't get rejected immediately, she will usually be polite and pleasant back. Then she will go make out with some other dude who triggered her on a more emotional/sexual level That is exactly what is going on. And of course being polite and pleasant only leads to making friends. I've lost track of how many girls I got stuck as friends with then another guys showed up and did what needed to be done to s…
/r/askTRP23/11/18 02:40 PM
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Yeah there's no point in scaring her away with serial killer eyes. Any examples of how you tease her and make the conversation sexual?
/r/askTRP23/11/18 02:03 PM
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I don't give a shit about karma. No I'm not progressing and it's extremely frustrating. I have been reading pick up material since I was 22, I'm 37 now so do the math. I did not make this thread to complain about my life. I recently had a very bad experience with a girl and I'm pushing myself to go out and basically start over. Before this week I would go to bars and never talk to anybody and I finally got to the point where I'm now having conversations with women. I need to keep putting myself …
/r/askTRP23/11/18 02:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure you're misunderstanding me on purpose now. Are you trolling or joking? Absolutely not. I don't know what point you're trying to make. What do you mean by "What are you doing with a woman who shows no interest?" If I just approached a woman I don't expect her to have any interest in me. If you're talking about dates or hanging out, then yes I shouldn't be with women who aren't interested in me. Think of a time where you first met someone and you just hit it off and it was fun. Tha…
/r/askTRP23/11/18 01:49 PM
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What are you doing with a woman who shows no interest? Nobody is going to be interested in me the second I walk up to her and want me to kiss her. If it was that easy game wouldn't exist. How do you think people escalate from touching to kissing to fucking? A whole bunch of steps that I don't know, over an unknown period of time. Bars are for practice and I get to drink. If I can makeout with a drunk that would be a huge boost for my ego. I'm not ready for day game and I don't know any women to …
/r/askTRP23/11/18 01:16 PM
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your thinking too much into it Yup. Because when I don't think about it, I just make friends so something needs to change. Me- oh so you wana travel there or what? Her - yes I want to save the country by doing xyz Me- don’t lie to me I’ve seen the National Geographic channel. The Men barely are clothed. I’m on to you with a cheesy smile. Her -omg your disgusting. What your doing - Creating conversation joking with her engaging her emotions and talking about sex. Ah OK I see how you did that. You…
/r/askTRP23/11/18 01:10 PM
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Just kiss. There is no such thing as escalation in the way you're trying to define it. What's between fucking and touching? Nothing... those are steps that follow each other up. Seriously? Just kiss a girl I met 5 minutes ago who has displayed no interest in me at all? Sounds like a great way for me to get tossed out. Last week I went for a tea, I like to sit face to face so I can hold hands and let them caress my face/arms/shoulders. Kissed in metro. Next meetup: fucking. That's cool but I'm no…
/r/askTRP23/11/18 01:03 PM
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It's more than that. It's displaying all of your desires into her eyes. Glaring at her in a way where she can't mistake your intentions for anything else. Is this something you do? But through the unseen realm of eye contact, voice tone, posture and getting to the point. How do you get to the point?
/r/askTRP23/11/18 01:00 PM
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Yes I touch women when I talk to them. How do you escalate with a girl you just met in a bar?
/r/askTRP23/11/18 08:31 AM
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And you always slowly lead the conversation from friendly to sexual. How? That is the question of this thread. It sounds like your being the ear to listen to women blab. Isn't that just how conversations with women are? They just go on and you show that you're interested in what she's saying. Bar game is one of the hardest. What are the better options? For me the benefit to bars is that I get to drink which numbs my fear of approaching women. If I start to get some success I'll try approaching s…
/r/askTRP23/11/18 08:12 AM
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Humble brag.
/r/seduction20/11/18 10:00 PM
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Life is rough for you too. some hope things might get better someday That is so hard to maintain. At least you know that you've achieved a good life a few times in the past, so it should be able to happen again. Right? For me I've set my life cutoff at 40. If I can't at least get a serious relationship by then it will never happen.
/r/seduction20/11/18 08:34 PM
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Second year in a row? Dude, some of us never had somebody to spend Christmas or Thanksgiving with ever. A few years ago it was finally going to happen to me at 31 then she dumped me a week after I had gotten back from visiting my parents for Thanksgiving. I actually felt mad at my family that year for asking me to come visit them instead of being with her, and maybe I could have figured out why she dumped me. To put things in perspective I have had 0 Christmas with a girl 0 Thanksgiving with a g…
/r/seduction20/11/18 08:20 PM
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I want a girlfriend. But I feel that dating has changed to where it's now sex first and then a relationship happens afterword. The proper way to do things now seems to hang out as "friends" keep everything casual, drink, have sex and now you're a couple. One thing that I want to point out is that I'm so tired of being the guy that girls just want to be friends with while they have sex with other guys. I've been hurt way too many times from situations like this. I simply don't care anymore if I r…
/r/seduction19/11/18 08:22 PM
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Thanks for going into more detail. Hear me out, maybe she thought you were just being goofy/“inappropriate” because you were drunk. It really depends on if you made a move sober. That's a really good point. Though what makes things different is that this was the 3rd time we've hung out while drinking. The first time I was mostly sober and we were flirting at a bar after work. The second time was swimming and I got wasted. I was very touchy with her and I when I got home I tried to kiss her. That…
/r/seduction19/11/18 07:47 PM
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Would you hang out with a guy again that you weren't interested in after he tried to make an obvious move on you? I'm also thinking that maybe she did like me, but didn't want to have sex that night and knew that if we did start making out, sex would most likely have happened. I'm really trying to understand why a girl who clearly knew I liked her, kept spending time with me.
/r/seduction19/11/18 06:56 PM
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Particularly where you say you should have just kept trying til she gave in. Is that really how you want to start things? Absolutely 100%. I've heard countless stories where a guy and girl were just friends will they were drinking one night and hooked up. Then they become a couple. I'm 99.9% sure that's what happened with the girl and the guys she's with now. I'm almost certain that if I was a little more direct and we hooked up a few months ago, we'd be dating right now. That is why if I'm in t…
/r/seduction19/11/18 06:12 PM
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Oh we arne't talking anymore. She sent me a text telling me that she started seeing somebody, I freaked out on her since I was basically in love with her at that point and she has since not responded to anything I sent. The last we texted was about thee weeks ago.
/r/seduction19/11/18 05:43 PM
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Uh what? How many times have you had a conversation with a new girl and you told her that you liked her before you hooked up or kissed?
/r/seduction19/11/18 05:32 PM
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Or maybe he had to try a few times before she let him? Most likely I'll never know.
/r/seduction19/11/18 05:31 PM
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I don't think that's how the dating thing works these days. I seriously doubt that the guy she's with now had a conversation while sober and told her that he likes her.
/r/seduction19/11/18 04:59 PM
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Cool, I feel that I should have escalated and gotten a real no from her. I keep imagining that I got a maybe and I just never had the chance to try again.
/r/seduction19/11/18 04:28 PM
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Do people talk about sex when they've been out bar hopping and come back at 3 AM? My goal isn't to pressure her into sex, but try to get a solid answer. I shouldn't have spent months in limbo wondering what if. As for her just wanting to be friends, I wanted her to know that I didn't just want to be friends. I liked her and wanted a relationship. Instead I settled with friendship for months and ended up getting really hurt by her when she chose another guy that she probably hooked up with after …
/r/seduction19/11/18 04:27 PM
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Thanks. The frustration knowing you could have blew an opportunity to smash is worse than trying aggressively and being turned down. The former sits with you for days maybe even weeks. Hah that frustration has been sitting with me for months. And now that I know that girl eventually hooked up with somebody else and now they're a couple, has basically driven me insane. All I can think about is that if I was more aggressive with escalating with her months ago, I would be in a completely different …
/r/seduction19/11/18 03:04 PM
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Huh? I've heard over and over that men shouldn't talk about their intentions and instead act on them. Telling a woman, I want to kiss you is the worst thing. And yes several months later I did tell her that I liked her but the circumstances were weird and I thought she was leaving the area soon, so her answer was, "then you should enjoy my company while I'm still here"
/r/seduction19/11/18 02:56 PM
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I've paid for Tinder earlier this year. Did not get dates.
/r/seduction19/11/18 03:35 AM
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Honestly I'm not used to going to bars by myself and starting conversations with random people. The benefit to a meetup group is that people (mainly women) are more open to having random people talk to them. I'm going to go to a few of these to get comfortable then I'll start going to bars and stuff.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/18 02:44 AM
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I don't see any point in getting to know a woman on the off chance that she has single friends. I've had many female friends and I never met any of their friends. And yes of course not every interaction has to end in hooking up, but I would love it if it happened to me at least one time in my life.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/18 06:51 PM
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Oh my fucking God! So I met my goal of taking to a few women. Then I met a woman I felt I had a great connection with. We were taking for almost an hour. Then she tells me that she's engaged!! Holy fucking shit! I found a way to politely excuse myself and now I'm in an Uber back home. 9 pm and the njgjt was completely ruined.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/18 03:16 AM
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Thanks for the post. I was just looking for some encouragement or advice on how make the most of the situation. Many women from the group signed up and I at leas thing they'd be more open to talking to people from the group. Also should I bother getting to know any of the guys there?
/r/TheRedPill17/11/18 09:36 PM
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It's supposed to be a 20's - 30's group though I'm sure there will be older people. Frankly I'm not that much of a social person at all and definitely not the type to mingle with strangers which is why I joined the group. I really can't imaging leaving behind the meetup people.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/18 09:02 PM
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How do you start conversations when you're alone?
/r/TheRedPill17/11/18 07:48 PM
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I'm going out tonight to a meetup.com event at a bar. It's pretty much expected that most people will be there by themselves. How can I make sure that I have fun tonight? It would be great if I could bring a girl back to my place but I don't expect it to happen, but I would like to be social and talk to lots of women. I'm just not really sure what to talk about and how to approach them.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/18 05:51 PM
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I take zero offense to that whatsoever- my biggest deal with my past two relationships was that I was exclusively using one woman's love and affection to validate my existence/ let it be the only thing that kept me going. I didn't give up hobbies or cut people out of my life, but my relationships seemed to be the only things that were truly bringing me happiness. Surprise, you're normal. Many men get their validation from being in a relationship. Society pretty much tells us that you're a loser …
/r/seduction14/11/18 12:53 PM
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I don't quite understand the amoral thing. Overall I'm against going after taken women. I certainly but are you saying that I should not care?
/r/TheRedPill13/11/18 11:51 PM
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Not him complaining, I'm talking about overall on TRP. It makes no sense to complain about women jumping around but then encourage men to sleep with taken women.
/r/TheRedPill13/11/18 11:47 PM
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Ah you're getting the info from observation. So he may also invite other people along too. Would you have any idea how long till he gives up assuming he ever strikes out? I'm betting he won't try for longer than a month.
/r/seduction13/11/18 11:09 PM
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That's very interesting. And you said he takes between 2 and 6 weeks? Is that when the flirting starts or how long to bang them? So it seems that him going friendly is a way to disarm the girl but still flirt with them. I keep hearing mixed advice if guys should be asking girls on dates or not. Facebook ha! How did this new dude at work get with the girl out of interest? If you're asking about my oneitis and the guys she's with now, I'm not 100% sure who it is, but I have a rough guess. If it's …
/r/seduction13/11/18 10:31 PM
1

So then you are talking about only going after one girl who was there when you started and then go after each new girl who joins?
/r/seduction13/11/18 09:49 PM
1

It's a tough one because, on the one hand, people always advise to show your intent and make it man-to-woman straight away etc, but on the other hand, if it's someone who you are going to keep seeing (like in a work setting or like an art class or whatever), it'd be odd behaviour to basically hit on someone in that kind of setting as soon as you meet them and would do more harm than good! (especially if she's not at all interested in you!) That's exactly what I'm talking about. Funny how you men…
/r/seduction13/11/18 09:48 PM
40

Why do men here complain about hypergamy and go on dates with women in relationships?
/r/TheRedPill13/11/18 06:52 PM
0

Where you start from has everything to do with it. Some guys already have the social skills and all they really need to do is get over the fear of rejection and put themselves out there. I'd say that there is a 99.9% that if a guy is in his 30's and still struggling that he does not have the social skills needed. Odds are he'd be on the very bottom
/r/seduction09/11/18 02:50 AM
1

It's less of an issue of hobbies are attractive but hobbies that are interesting Funny you say that. Basically attractive = interesting. So then what hobbies would a women see as interesting? I noticed you jumped right away to sports which are the traditional masculine things. Would playing chess or cards be seen as interesting?
/r/seduction08/11/18 05:43 PM
0

Get some hobbies that don't revolve around the reddit culprits like video games and anime and start going out. What hobbies are attractive?
/r/seduction08/11/18 05:31 PM
0

What types of bars do you go to? When do you go to bars?
/r/seduction08/11/18 05:22 PM
0

My colleague, I disagree. I know idiots at +6" who cannot get laid in a whorehouse If you're an idiot that's different. Though I doubt that they still can't pull anything off. Some of those movie stars, Al Pacino, Cruise (who's gay, who would have guessed with a name like that but anyway, we digress)...they are short. Celebrities aren't a good example of short guys who can get women because they have personalities and charisma that is very different from the average man. Have you tried women und…
/r/TheRedPill08/11/18 04:22 PM
1

The importance of how one carries themselves is inversely proportionate to how tall they are. So if a guy is 6'2, he can get away with almost anything and it doesn't really matter how he carries himself. A guy my height always has to be on his 100% game because women are always looking for reasons to discredit us. Putting it differently, if I was as tall as my dad, 5'10 (and change nothing else about myself) I would have been married 10 years ago, or at least had a few long term girlfriends.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/18 01:21 PM
1

Try being 5'5 and see if height would be an issue for you. No women don't give me shit about being short, they just ignore me. I have to work my ass off just to get noticed for anything beyond friendship. Again my whole point was just to point out that you were bragging. Nothing more.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/18 10:58 PM
3

I'm not saying that I don't belive you, what I'm saying is that you are bragging. The other guy said you weren't but it's obvious that you are. I didn't say if bragging is good or bad. Then you said something about being incapable to me which is asinine because no matter what I do I can never be capable of being 6 foot. I also work out very hard 3 days a week and I'll never hit strongman level.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/18 10:35 PM
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Tell me more bro. How hard did you have to work to be 6'2?
/r/TheRedPill07/11/18 10:15 PM
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And no, I didn't take it as you bragging in any way at all. You must have missed this part. I compete in strongman (Alpha AF if you ever get the chance. Panties drop when you lift a car for fun), have sub 15% bodyfat, 6'2" and good looking. I make 60k+, have an LTR of 1.5 years, hot, younger than me,
/r/TheRedPill07/11/18 08:07 PM
3

Hmm? OK. So just use them as a way to get laid. That actually seems depressing for several reasons but maybe it's just the best course of action for now. Right now there is nothing I want more than a cute, fit 24 year old girl with big tits, but I need to accept that I'm just not good enough for her yet. Once I start getting laid it should slowly increase my confidence and eventually work my way up to the women I really want.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/18 08:52 PM
10

Holy crap you wrote this about me. I'm 37 years old and I have an absolutely abysmal sex life. There is basically a 1.5 year period in my life (spread over three years) where I was having regular sex. I haven't had sex since New Years day 2015. I'm completely obsessed with sex and women. Also for some reason I have a laser focus with women 20-25. Basically I'm still trying to get the girls who rejected me in college. I feel that so many aspects of my life are on hold till I can get a girlfriend.…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/18 08:15 PM
7

Now obviously you can get really creative with this hobby if you want but it must involve a lot of social interaction as well as social interactions with hot girls. Suggestions? Would taking a pole dancing class be a good or bad idea?
/r/seduction02/11/18 05:39 PM
1

Yeah that's exactly my point. He probably would have had the same result even if he never found this board.
/r/seduction02/11/18 12:47 PM
1

Awesome. Did you make a thread about it? How did you lose it?
/r/seduction02/11/18 12:45 PM
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No it didn't. It's called growing up and living life. Now if you were a virgin at 25 then lost it, then what would have been a dependent on self improvement
/r/seduction01/11/18 10:54 PM
0

Why is this upvoted so much? 18 year old kid almost has sex. And what? It's not a bit deal to still be a virgin into the first couple years of college. Wake me up when a 25 year old loses his virginity.
/r/seduction01/11/18 09:20 PM
1

I'd say it's best to give up. You may want to wait a few months, but don't literally stay single waiting for her to get ready.
/r/seduction29/10/18 05:36 PM
1

Don't. I did the same thing and she suddenly dumped me after six months. Then she ended up marrying her next boyfriend.
/r/seduction29/10/18 02:25 PM
4

How do you start being suggestive and use innuendo? So to say, how do you break the sexual ice?
/r/seduction17/09/18 02:07 PM
15

Thanks for the guide. Couple quesitons. When should you put on cologne. I've heard everything from right after you get out of the shower to right before you get dressed. How long should cologne last on you? How much should you actually wear. I know you mentioned that already, it's just that when I wear cologne it seems like nobody ever knows.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/18 01:49 PM
1

I've read that 10 years ago. I was a member of SoSuave way back in the day. Hell it's been 15 years?....... Anyways, no sadly I'm not the prize. I'd be delusional to think so.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 09:33 PM
1

Yes that is correct. In my current "relationship" with this girl she has all the power. It's the same for all girls I've liked. They decide when and if we hang out. It's extremely frustrating.
/r/askTRP05/09/18 09:04 PM
5

Sigh, you're right this is how I feel. Instead I feel depressed and hopeless. I feel that women are broken but I still want them of course. I don't feel empowered at all because I don't know how to play their game. I feel like I'm just a toy and I know it should be the other way around. Being mad at women just makes me despise them and not want to interact at all. And when you're trying to fuck the last thing you should do is be mad at her.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/18 11:30 PM
3

Which one helps me get laid?
/r/TheRedPill04/09/18 10:46 PM
1

The case for what? Though since I am trying to win her approval (and one of several guys) that automatically says I'm lower value than her. At this point I feel that there is no way I'll be able to bang her so I want to see if I can use her value to help me get laid.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 10:43 PM
8

Being disgusted and pissed doesn't help me though. I don't want to hate women. I want to fuck women.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/18 09:24 PM
1

Can you point out the relevant section? I really don't have the time to start reading a new book.
/r/askTRP04/09/18 09:13 PM
0

I think I read magic bullets years ago. Right now I'm reading La Ruina - The natural. This situation is weird because we've already had the rapport conversations and do heavy kino. I haven't tried rapport breaking. As for value perception, eh despite her being 10+ years younger, she knows her value is higher than mine. She's cute, smart, confident, has several guy "friends" in different cities who want to or have banged her and she makes way more money than I do. I've been trying to get her to c…
/r/askTRP04/09/18 08:24 PM
0

I'm fairly certain that I'm in the friendzone. Granted this is the most comfortable a friendzone girl has ever been with me. Aside from not banging it feels like we're dating. Is there a way to use her for social proof when we're out together?
/r/askTRP04/09/18 08:00 PM
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For some reason the video was terrifying to me. I feel like I'm completely stuck in world where women have all the power. And considering that I'm single at 37 and haven't kissed a woman in years that's pretty much true. All this reading and watching videos isn't going to help me though, it'll just make me scared and believe that it's hopeless.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/18 06:32 PM
2

Sorry to hear that it's been rough for you as well. Few people really understand that dating is extremely hard for an average looking short guy. Everybody says they have that one short guy friend who does well with women, though they rarely mention that their friend is either very good looking or has very high confidence. I don't really have approach anxiety, but I do have severe depression and getting rejected really brings me down and makes me feel like a loser. Somehow the trick is to get a c…
/r/seduction28/08/18 02:16 PM
1

Hah. And how well do you do? I'm in a slump.
/r/seduction28/08/18 01:31 PM
1

What if you're short and don't have a handsome face?
/r/seduction28/08/18 01:29 PM
1

What if the manlet doesn't want a girl that is taller than him?
/r/seduction28/08/18 01:28 PM
3

Bruh mine is 46 at 21. Congrats? How confident do you think you'd be if you didn't even lose your virginity till you were 22 like what happened with me?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/18 09:51 PM
6

How'd you manage to get 6 girls by 23? I'm 36, 5'5 and my n-count is 2 :( My penis is bigger than yours but I make far less money. Want to trade? The only thing this guys post did was make me feel more depressed.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/18 07:35 PM
3

Uh, thanks for pointing out how bad off I am. The only thing that I'm in the 'top 20%' of is dick size, and it's not even 7 inches. Regardless it's the most useless one as it doesn't help me get laid.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/18 03:24 PM
3

Hmm. Then I wonder if it's possible to go down for a bit meet somebody and take her back here?
/r/TheRedPill23/08/18 08:11 PM
1

Thinking about it. But it's a shame that I have to leave my home because of the idea that the women here are shallow and there is nothing I can do about it.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/18 07:00 PM
4

Why do we lift? The only reason I lift is because I'm 5'5 and getting muscle is the only I'll ever be remotely physically attractive to women.
/r/TheRedPill23/08/18 05:51 PM
1

Disgusting. Though an accurate representation of what is wrong with modern dating.
/r/TheRedPill21/08/18 11:36 AM
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I agree with you. Tinder has been bad for women as well. This video does a great job explaining it. Add that to the general indecisiveness of women and it's easy to see how bad this is. Essentially Tinder and online dating as a whole has given women far too much power, that they never asked for and have no idea how to use. Of course I still have to say how jealous I am of women. Getting 100 likes a day is much more appealing than getting zero.
/r/seduction20/08/18 10:59 PM
3

"Guys under six feet have no excuse, hit the gym fatass" Yup you got me. I'm a fatass. I don't think I'm the one that is letting my height hold me back. Women are the ones who decide how important my height is. there are so many aspects of your life that you do have control over (being fit, wealth, self-worth/happiness) Now that I think about it, we really have very little control over any of those. As you can see in my picture I'm reasonably fit and not bad for a guy whose 37. But it's really h…
/r/seduction20/08/18 10:14 PM
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I guess the surprising lesson that I learned is that majority of women are very lazy when it comes to men. This is true in a lot of places, but I'd like to hone in on New York. There are quite a few women I met there that wouldn't even entertain a guy unless he lived literally within a few blocks, which is utterly ridiculous in the city. Their standards are nearly impossible to meet, and they set the bar very high - so, a lot of them are single as a result because no man can meet those attribute…
/r/seduction20/08/18 08:44 PM
1

I'm not sure what the point of this post is. Don't approach women because sex isn't worth it? That's easy to say when you haven't gone without sex for a year.
/r/seduction20/08/18 07:57 PM
0

When do you think a guy is pretending to be a friend?
/r/seduction19/08/18 01:25 AM
9

What good is that when you want to date somebody?
/r/seduction18/08/18 08:01 PM
7

What's wrong with a guy looking desperate and trying with everyone? You do realize that guys have to go through hundreds of no's to get one yes right?
/r/seduction18/08/18 08:00 PM
5

Isn't it weird how women do that? She wants to get her needs met, your company and attention; without meeting any of yours, intimacy and sex.
/r/seduction18/08/18 07:18 PM
14

But I still think that he just wants a girl. Not me in particular or any of my friends Yes and no. I'm in this situation now. Like many single guys we want a girl. Eventually we meet a girl we like and no longer want just a girl, we want the specific girl. After the specific girl we like rejects us, we're hurt but go back to just wanting a girl again. That does not mean that the girl we liked wasn't important to us. Far from it. Are you expecting a guy to keep pining after the same girl after sh…
/r/seduction18/08/18 07:15 PM
5

So I’m 20 but have only managed to bring home like 5 girls in the past year or two. Yeah you're having lots of trouble alright. You don't even know what frustration is.
/r/seduction18/08/18 06:40 PM
0

This some sort of humble brag?
/r/seduction18/08/18 06:34 PM
1

Exactly. And that's why it's bullshit because you have to lie to yourself.
/r/seduction17/08/18 09:06 PM
1

Sounds like you should forget about women and focus on fixing your self esteem. I've heard this from so many people for so long. I'm talking like 10 years of people telling that. The fact of the matter is, there is no fixing myself self-esteem without women in my life. Women are the reason why I have poor self-esteem. And yes, I know that when I'm having regular sex I don't have any self-esteem issues. Take a long hard look at yourself and ask yourself honestly. If I were a girl I'm attracted to…
/r/seduction14/08/18 03:17 PM
1

Well for example my friend was invited by the other girl to go to a wine tasting with her coworkers. So me getting pushed out would be them doing stuff on their own without inviting me. So I'm thinking that I should try to organize an outing with the girls and not try to sleep with them?
/r/seduction13/08/18 04:02 PM
1

Abundance Reality That's perfect. Spinning plates? Why is it called that anyway? Is it implied that its supposed to be hard? For a beginner yes. Though once you have some skill it becomes easy and adding more plates isn't a problem. Also if you screw up which can still happen, a plate can fall and break. It does sound like you're living an abundance reality. Very interesting that you said it's harder to be monogamous. I never thought it would be easier with multiple girls. And having them know e…
/r/seduction13/08/18 03:42 PM
2

I consistently make sure to have good posture. I'm absolutely aware of it. As I said, I don't want to risk looking even shorter than I am. Yup I'm an ectomorph. Also I've always been skinny fat. Meaning I've always had a gut and too much fat on my face. While working out regularly and eating at a surplus I hit 170 but it was still mostly fat and it showed. I just gain muscle super slowly. I've currently cut down to 146 and my face is starting to look better and most of the gut is gone. I still g…
/r/seduction13/08/18 03:00 PM
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In a way you have nothing to lose Only my sanity. I don't understand how an abundance mentality is supposed to work when you're in a dry spell. Abundance mentality isn't even a mindset, it's actually a fact of life. You have abundance or you don't. When you live an abundance life, things become easier. Regardless you still need to start with 1, and getting that 1 is the hardest part.
/r/seduction13/08/18 02:15 PM
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How do you deal with 1 and 2 when you haven't so much as kissed a woman in three years? The idea of having an abundance mentality in that situation is ludicrous. It seems the most you can do is try to hide the neediness, but that still has ways of manifesting.
/r/seduction13/08/18 12:33 PM
2

Fix your posture. I wish that was a real fix. Sadly no, 5'5 is my official medically measured height trying to be as straight as possible. And because of that I always try to have correct posture to avoid looking shorter. And no, I don't have good genetics either and struggle to put on muscle. Hell I can't even grow a beard and I'm in my 30's.
/r/seduction13/08/18 11:34 AM
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I completely understand where you're coming from and it makes sense. The problem is that the average guy has nowhere near the charisma and humor of Jack Black. Would you still do a guy that looked like Jack Black if he had the personality of a normal dude?
/r/seduction13/08/18 01:26 AM
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If you're 5"2, cross-eyed, got burn marks all over your face, and have only one leg, then you will NOT be meeting girls from sheer pickup skills. What if you're 5'5 and average looking? No other faults
/r/seduction13/08/18 12:06 AM
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The only reason I "obsess" over my height is because I keep getting turned down by women. If women were interested in me I wouldn't care how tall I was. I'm almost 37 and no matter how much effort I put into improving myself it's never enough. My height is the one thing I cannot fix. How can I not be insecure when every post in this comment tree basically said that short guys fail at night game? Lastly, how do I have value when women keep turning me down? That's women literally women telling me …
/r/TheRedPill11/08/18 01:41 PM
2

How am I supposed to get laid if I never get noticed?
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 09:23 PM
1

Hmm, that may change things. The main thing I like about night game is that I get to be tipsy and get out of my head. Sober day game sounds terrifying. I haven't had any lucks on apps. Apparently all my pictures are horrible.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 09:23 PM
5

industry events So he focuses on day game in a professional setting? Right now I want easy sex. Emphasis on the easy.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 09:20 PM
1

Once again, I'm 5'5. Any chick is able to tell that I'm several inches shorter than average. That's all that matters. Whenever I'm around other guys I'm always the shortest one.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 03:27 PM
1

OK, what do you mean? What can women not tell the difference of?
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 02:41 PM
1

Women can tell the difference between 5'5 and 5'8. It's even easier for them to tell the difference between 5'5 and 5'10.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 02:35 PM
1

I wish I could have joined a frat. But I started college late and transferred in. Needless to say I didn't get any action in college, or out of college for that matter. Being short and introverted has basically turned me into a monk.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/18 02:34 PM
8

Uh, as a 5'5 white guy I'd kill to be 5'8. Average height is 5'10 so being 5'8 isn't that bad.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/18 09:20 PM
4

Thanks. That's about what I expected.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/18 07:20 PM
4

I edited my post but you're fast. 5'8 isn't short though. I'm talking like 5'6 or under.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/18 05:58 PM
6

Do you ever see short but other wise decent looking guys take any girls out of the bars?
/r/TheRedPill09/08/18 05:54 PM
1

She actually told me during the breakup talk that the timing for us wasn't right. Lucky me. All you can so is go for it. Just be aware that it may not work because of her circumstances. Good luck.
/r/seduction07/08/18 03:58 PM
2

This is a difficult situation. Essentially my ex left a toxic relationship to be with me. I wasn't fully aware at the time but I was basically the rebound guy and was with her for 6 months then she suddenly dumped me. I don't know how long she was single for, but I'm almost certain that she married her next boyfriend a couple of years later. In other words if the orders were reversed and the other guy was the rebound and I dated her after, we could be married. Though another problem is that any …
/r/seduction07/08/18 02:55 PM
86

This can't be real
/r/MensRights28/07/18 02:15 AM
2

That's very similar to what I was saying in my post up above. There are more men on the extreme ends of intelligence and skills. That applies to the very high and very low ends. Women have less variation. It's funny how it balances out that there are far more males geniuses than women. Yet males are more more likely to be autistic or have Down's Syndrome.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 05:00 PM
1

Yes over all people are just average, men and women. Though women tend to be more average than men, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing by any means. There is a saying that there is a fine line between genius and insanity. In almost all cases that is a male issue. My grandfather was a creative genius with photography but also had various issues and ended up alienating his family. Personally I'd rather be normal than on the extreme ends of either spectrum. I do feel bad for the subnormal and I …
/r/MensRights27/07/18 04:54 PM
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Seems about right. In many areas men are more extreme than women. There are more very smart men than women, and there are more very stupid or mentally ill men than women. There are more men who are millionaires than women and there are more men who are homeless. There are more men who are creative geniuses in art, music, culinary and so on. The top 10 (probably more) in any field are men. But men are also the lowest members of society with homelessness and mental illness.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 01:58 PM
2

Go for it, you can always play dumb. For all you know they could be sisters, ex friends, or lesbian lovers if all you have to go by is a picture.
/r/seduction26/07/18 12:42 PM
4

its a bit more complicated. You might be completely average looking, but your personality, behaviour, clothes, hygiene etc are lacking, and thus you are seen as unattractive (I would say this is the case for most men who struggle with Game). Yes those things are important too. But if I guy believes that he's not getting any women women because he's ugly, then your reply would be, "You're not ugly but..." Also there was a study done where women though that something like 80% of men were unattract…
/r/seduction25/07/18 01:49 PM
11

Here's what's up. As a straight male, it doesn't matter if other guys think you are decent looking or not. If you are trying to attract women, then only a woman's opinions of your looks matter. If women aren't attracted to you, then you're ugly.
/r/seduction25/07/18 01:38 PM
2

How did you come to the conclusion that I sound boring because I don't meet any of those archetypes?
/r/seduction23/07/18 03:17 PM
3

Think about it this way, If Game/Seduction was a college class it would be "Social Skills 301"
/r/seduction23/07/18 02:18 PM
9

Nice list, lets see which ones I fit into. Rocker. No Hip hop guy. No Cowboy. No Military guy. No Musician. No Hip hop guy. Still no Prep guy. Don't know what that is. Most likely no. Dandy. (Not just wearing a suit, but almost like a character from a tv show) No Tats guy. No MMA guy. No Biker. No Skater. No Surfer. No The poet/artsy guy. No OK, now what?
/r/seduction23/07/18 03:11 AM
14

What are the successful stereotypes normal guys can fit into? Personally I can easily fall into the anime/video game nerd but those guys don't get girls, and if they do get girls, they ain't the ones we want.
/r/seduction22/07/18 11:50 PM
70

Don't give her the unlock code or pattern. Also set up your phone so that it has to be unlocked for texts to be read.
/r/MensRights21/07/18 02:19 AM
9

I bet her name is Mulva.
/r/seduction15/07/18 03:03 PM
3

It's really about where your starting point is. When I first learned about game in my early 20's I was extremely quiet and basically scared to talk to girls. I had many issues with confidence and self-esteem. I'm also a 5'5 white guy. I wasn't remotely good looking either and skinny fat. I had many hurdles to overcome. If you're at least average looking, average height and can have a conversation with attractive women, you'll be fine.
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:38 PM
2

An ugly guy who is very good with women is extremely rare, and would be most likely a very extroverted guy who has to approach a huge number of women to get any success. That is the key point that is almost always glossed over when people say things like looks or height doesn't matter. Either they are an ugly or short guy who gets girls or knows a guy. In all cases the guy is very extroverted. And that extroversion is how the guy gets girls in spite of his looks. Mild mannered ugly/short guys do…
/r/seduction14/07/18 04:08 AM
2

Eh, I'm sure dumb but pretty guys still get laid. Probably a lot more than the average guy does.
/r/seduction14/07/18 03:27 AM
1

Confidence is believing/knowing that you can do something. Confidence grows from success. It's very common to have confidence in one area, such as knowing that you can whatever skills are needed in your job, and then have very poor confidence in something like snowboarding for the first time.
/r/seduction14/07/18 12:16 AM
5

This is something that I acknowledged over 10 years ago. And I've been working very hard for many years. The way I interact with women now is completely different than before. Still not getting laid though.
/r/seduction13/07/18 06:23 PM
0

But to say that good looking guys “don’t need advice” is absurd. You can be good looking and socially inept. I was making the assumption that the good looking guy would have average level social skills. If that guy has Asperger's or something then advice can be useful. The guys who are ugly and good with women have very strong personalities and/or very high confidence. Most ugly guys do horrible with women.
/r/seduction13/07/18 06:20 PM
7

I'm 36 and I've been "learning" this stuff for 15+ years. It's fucking difficult if you aren't physically attractive. The only thing I can do is try to develop my personality and confidence to a point where it makes up for my looks.
/r/seduction13/07/18 06:17 PM
1

What is that supposed to mean?
/r/seduction13/07/18 05:45 PM
7

When you are good looking the bar is much much lower. You can make more mistakes. Women being physically attracted to you at the start only means that all you have to do is not screw up. Unfortunately I'm an average looking short guy. An average height good looking guy has it much much much easier than I do.
/r/seduction13/07/18 05:45 PM
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I don't think good looking guys need any advice.
/r/seduction13/07/18 03:56 PM
3

That's because you being 9/10 - 28, 6'5", rich, handsome, good shape, confident and cocky you can get away with a very minor self-deprecating joke. Try being a 5/10 5'4, middle class guy with a gut and see how much you can get away with.
/r/seduction12/07/18 06:25 PM
1

Depending on your sense of humor it can be. For me, making jokes at my own expense is super easy, mostly because I'm a bit funny and really negative. And yes, I've had girls tell me that they didn't like it when I made self-deprecating jokes.
/r/seduction12/07/18 06:12 PM
3

The sidebar doesn't have a section for short guys, it should though because the game is different when you're not physically attractive.
/r/seduction12/07/18 05:53 PM
5

Women don't like self-deprecating jokes. It tells them that you have poor confidence.
/r/seduction12/07/18 05:52 PM
0

Ugh, what? Are you saying that the foreskin is equivalent to your index finger?
/r/MensRights08/07/18 04:22 AM
0

The pelvic floor muscles and organs have nothing at all do to do with the foreskin or even the penis for that matter.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 03:11 AM
-3

So you feel that you were mutilated? If so that's a completely valid view point to have. It's not my place to judge that. Personally I'm happy with the way I am and am glad I didn't get circumcised as an adult. One thing I want to point out is that for most people who get circumcised as an adult it's not a choice.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 02:35 AM
-6

I bet that if you asked my dad who got circumcised in his 40's due to a medical reason he'd tell you he wish he had the operation as a baby. Even then, why do you feel bad about being circumcised?
/r/MensRights08/07/18 02:19 AM
3

How do you know you’re not missing anything? Honestly I don't. Which is why I made a post to the main topic, though nobody has replied to yet. All I know is that my penis is very sensitive and at time I wish it was less sensitive than it is now, especially during sex. To me it doesn't seem like I'm missing anything.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 02:18 AM
-5

Uh, I shouldn't have to explain that with a loss of sensation I'd be able to last longer in sex. Please tell me how you believe that lasting longer in sex would be a bad thing.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 02:15 AM
2

Do any of you guys here who got circumcised later remember what it was like to have a foreskin? Do you prefer things the way they are no or the way it was before?
/r/MensRights08/07/18 01:46 AM
1

The same exact thing happened to my dad. Both my brother and I were circumcised as infants and have had no problems at all. For some reason my dad had to get circumcised as an adult and it was a very painful process for him.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 01:37 AM
-5

You are missing the gliding motion, which is the sensation of your foreskin rubbing against your shaft and head and the other side of the foreskin rubbing against the inner vagina OK, and what does that add to sex? Sex without or without a condom feels pretty damn amazing. So essentially instead of getting the sensation of my shaft and head rubbing against my foreskin and her vagina, I just get the sensation of rubbing against her vagina. I can't really say that I lost out on anything. It remove…
/r/MensRights08/07/18 01:36 AM
-2

Why would you feel sad about it? I got circumcised as an infant and there isn't nothing wrong with my penis nor do I feel that I'm missing anything.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 01:29 AM
11

Oddly enough it wasn't blocked. Though that's probably for the best because it meant an alert most likely wasn't sent to the admin.
/r/MensRights06/07/18 03:03 PM
44

Holy crap a Penthouse link?! I'm at work and clicked on the link and didn't suspect anything till I saw something about subscribe, then I looked at the URL. Hopefully I don't get contacted the by security team.
/r/MensRights06/07/18 01:54 PM
2

Don't worry, you could still be growing. I'm 36. Yeah it sucks.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 01:54 AM
1

Yes short girls are more in demand. Basically every guy prefers short girls, that's why tall girls are more likely to complain that they have a "hard time" with dating. I'm 5'5 so girls 5'6+ might as well not exist since the vast majority of them don't want to be taller than the guy. So take all the 5'8 hotties you want.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 01:34 AM
2

Heh, you figured it out. Then how about girls 5'3 and under?
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 01:32 AM
2

You're not short. Try being 5'5 and see how much those 6 foot girls want you.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 01:30 AM
8

And that's another reason why it sucks to be a short guy. The only girls who would reasonably consider dating a short guy are short girls, but short girls are more in demand by all men. I wish there was some kind of bro code where guys 5'10+ would not go after women who are shorter than 5'7.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/18 11:18 PM
6

OK I have a college degree, work in IT and live in big city. Where are these leftover women who are so desperate that they turn to egg freezing? An oversupply of educated women my ass.
/r/MensRights02/07/18 06:39 PM
21

Yeah, I'm in my 30's and I don't have an Instagram or Snapchat account and I haven't posted to Facebook in over six months. Are those I should bother working on?
/r/seduction28/06/18 01:20 PM
1

So what really matters is how they perceive what you say. Your friends comment reminds me of Models where Mark said his friend would approach women with "I want to pee in your butt." And it worked for him. Yeah you make a point about not approaching groups that are closed off.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 09:18 PM
1

What's really funny is that I've already read Models and I have 3% Man but I got about halfway through it before I stopped. I've done a lot of reading (haven't read The Natural yet) over the years. Though this is the first time I'm living in a city where it's actually possible to go out where bars are plentiful and so are the women. It's just frustrating when I want to practice talking to girls, expressing interest, and they're all in pairs or groups.
/r/seduction27/06/18 08:18 PM
2

Yeah I've heard the "what are we all you celebrating" line given as an opener as well. Yes it does seem much easier said than done. For some reason that just sounds too basic. Though I guess it's a start. Would you say that line on two girls, or is it better with more people? BTW what do you mean you don't bother approaching those? You don't approach groups? Women by themselves seem to be extremely rare.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 07:45 PM
1

And there it is. I understand why you'd think this is very hard for a shy guy to do. This subreddit after all is not arranged by experience level so you get to read all kinds of posts from guys with varying levels of experience. Its like getting into a martial arts school with no beginner class, just one class where white belts are mixed in with the black belts that can do things you can't imagine yourself being able to do in a million years. That's a great point. Advice for this stuff seems to …
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:59 PM
11

How do you approach and start conversations with 2+ women at a bar when you're alone? Is it possible to pull?
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 06:03 PM
4

That's because a machete is a knife.
/r/MensRights27/06/18 04:03 PM
1

No advice to give. I started going out on by myself as well, though I never had a wing. It's not easy so hang in there.
/r/seduction27/06/18 03:58 PM
1

In Asia? Nope, U.S. Just grow a beard Can't.
/r/seduction27/06/18 03:02 AM
3

How possible is it get some success if you're just starting out and don't have a wingman?
/r/seduction26/06/18 06:20 PM
9

The title is fine. Now if it says "Woman used machete to sodomize man" that would only mean one thing.
/r/MensRights26/06/18 01:47 PM
1

Oh she's long gone. As I said, she's married. She might as well be dead.
/r/askTRP25/06/18 10:48 PM
1

She didn't need you anymore. I figured that much out. Though how would you prevent somebody dumping you when they don't need you anymore? Also I got a huge benefit from being with her in many ways.
/r/askTRP25/06/18 10:47 PM
2

I didn't try to fix her. I was just acting like a decent person and that was enough.
/r/askTRP25/06/18 10:46 PM
2

I took the survey as well. I didn't know about the Redpill policy of not participating. That said, the link the survey went to is a ucsb.edu domain. Meaning it was part of UC Santa Barbara. Got my gold too. First time I've ever had gold.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/18 08:34 PM
4

Sure that sounds great down the line. But I'm looking for the starting line. Like right now it's a warm Wednesday night, 8 pm and instead of trying to meet women I'm at home posting on TRP. I feel that I should be out now, but I don't really know where.
/r/askTRP21/06/18 01:08 AM
2

I'm in a new city where I don't know anyone. Unfortunately no social circle and no parties.
/r/askTRP20/06/18 09:49 PM
1

Thanks for the clarification. I think going out a lot was probably one of the most important.
/r/seduction14/06/18 08:47 PM
1

I'd love to hear some detailed stories from guys who just sucked with women until ~25 then things started working out.
/r/seduction14/06/18 07:46 PM
1

took serious action What does that mean? Lay count is impressive.
/r/seduction14/06/18 07:46 PM
1

How did it happen? Improved my social skills, looks and mindset, and keep plugging away trying to find ways to meet attractive girls more efficiently. Could you go into more detail of how you improved and what you did? It sounds like you had a lot of things against you and you overcame them, which is really impressive. Luckily I'm a white guy so at least I have that benefit, but I'm really short, which seems to keep women away. But if you could figure out how to get girls I'm sure I could too.
/r/seduction14/06/18 07:44 PM
1

How did you make the transition from not having a girlfriend until 25 to doing good with women?
/r/seduction14/06/18 07:42 PM
2

How did you start to get the ball rolling at an "older age?" Most of the stories are from young guys who just seemed to grow up. I'm 36 and still don't have a clue how to even begin, despite reading lots of PUA material
/r/seduction14/06/18 07:38 PM
1

If you change the first two letters in quitter to something else you'd get a very different title.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/18 05:39 PM
2

As a short guy 5'5, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get out of this post. Yes I know that dating is hard and women don't understand or simply don't care. I know better than to whine about my problems and not to be the aggressive angry short guy. I know that life isn't fair etc. The question is, what the fuck can I do as a short guy to start getting laid? I'm already working in my career, I lift three times a week and I try to dress nice. Still not getting laid though so something is missing.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 09:15 PM
3

This should be much higher, short guys get less pussy because society tells them they should I think it's because society tells women that they sholdn't give pussy to short guys.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 09:05 PM
1

Laugh, and say "I'm always up for a challenge" Who would you give that line to? Is it something you'd say to a taller woman? What if some 5'1 chick is calling you short and you're 5'6?
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 09:04 PM
2

Or their being "ugly" was normal for their original country. It's just that when they came to the US they became ugly.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 09:02 PM
1

If you are short that means some of your ancestors were short too. Which means that their shortness didn't prevented them from reproducing. The problem with that is that many of us are living in western countries (or just the US) and our ancestors were from a different country. The problem is that my short ancestors didn't have a problem in their home country because being short is normal. Being a short person in the US is completely different. Here's an example. My Dad is Cuban and I'm the heig…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 09:01 PM
1

https://www.tallmenshoes.com/ Boots and "dress" shoes look the best. Basically shoes that you'd wear pants with.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 08:55 PM
6

Melissa McCarthy Why the hell is that your example for a big breasted woman?! Just as a flat chested woman will beat a big breasted woman I think you got that backwards. Compare Kira Knightly to Stacey Poole
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 08:54 PM
2

Start deliberately dating taller girls only. You'll develop better frame and better game, but in the end, especially after you master your frame Could you explain that, why are taller women better to date than short women?
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 08:51 PM
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First of all, don't be an ass. Second, your example is 50 men and 100 women. Which of course gives you a ratio of 1:2 Nothing beyond that makes any sense because your method is flawed.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 09:18 PM
23

The point still stands that women are getting their value artificially inflated because guys they should have no business sleeping with in fact are.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 08:49 PM
50

If an 8 guy goes after a 4 girl, it makes the 4 girl think she's an 8 when she really isn't. The 5 guy (me) tries to go for a 4 girl but she thinks she's an 8 (she's not) and more likely to turn me down.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 08:28 PM
139

That is seriously screwed up. Men having no standards makes it harder for all of us. It's causing women to think they have more value than they actually do. I'm slightly amazed how easy it is for all women to get laid. People who say that "ugly" women have it as hard as men don't have a clue. Also the ever existence of Tinder and apps like it is really harmful to men. It gives women far too many options and then shit like this story happens.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/18 03:19 PM
1

Celebrities are not viable examples. They are extreme outliers.
/r/askTRP23/05/18 03:01 PM
1

I'm not the one comparing my height to other people. Women are the ones who are judging my height and saying I don't measure up. The only reason I'm insecure about my height is because women have placed huge amounts of value in a man's height. Back when I had a girlfriend my height was the last thing on my mind. It was a non issue for me because I had a woman. But now that I'm single, I see it as the primary reason why I'm not attracting anybody.
/r/askTRP23/05/18 02:48 PM
0

No, my height is my insecurity. Everything else about my body is fine. It has a huge impact on how attractive I am. But most importantly it's the one thing I can't change about myself. No my body and face isn't perfect. But that's why I go to the gym 3 days a week so I can lose fat and build muscle. I can't go to the gym to get taller.
/r/askTRP23/05/18 12:24 PM
1

A 5'5 insecure man would act and feel way more confident if he suddenly became 6'0,but that wouldn't actually fix the issue as he would let his insecurities on other issues. ROFL! As a 5'5 man my primary insecurity is that I'm five fucking five. If I was 6'0 I wouldn't be insecure at all.
/r/askTRP22/05/18 09:23 PM
0

Yeah, not the best time to be a man. Unless you REALLY got your shit together. I have this thought on a regular basis. Right now it really sucks to be a man and I see no benefit. Even worse is that I'm a 5'5 white guy. I'm in my late 30's and life has pretty much fucking sucked.
/r/askTRP22/05/18 09:13 PM
31

"I don't have a girlfriend, I just know a girl who would get really mad if she heard me say that" -Mitch Hedberg.
/r/seduction22/05/18 05:27 PM
5

It's the whole Step 1 X Step 2 X .... Step 4 Profit Meme.
/r/seduction11/05/18 04:18 PM
1

She yells again "Fine, whatever. Lighten the weight you can't lift more than me, I already told you." He complies (what the fuck). Well she's right of course. Not every guy can squat 300.
/r/TheRedPill11/05/18 12:07 PM
0

It may be fun. Just be careful that if you take lessons together, do not be part of the rotation. If you do you may only dance with her one time in the entire lesson. She'd also be dancing with every other guy in the room. At a first date it may turn out she likes somebody else more than you.
/r/seduction07/05/18 03:06 PM
1

Well since the answers I got here were shit (thanks seddit) I did some searching on my own. I found an article that seems to cover the questions I was asking. http://www.girlschase.com/content/how-pick-girls-bars-and-clubs Basically it says the best places are lounges, dive bars and places that play house music. Also to try picking up girls after the bars close.
/r/seduction05/05/18 02:26 AM
3

Well sure that would be great. Though banging women in their 50's and up is more reasonable.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/18 02:42 PM
2

Honestly there aren't any women at the main place where I enjoy and feel comfortable, my apartment. So I'm basically forcing myself to go out, so I figure I might as well go out to where I can start getting some results. If you love clubs and can dance and have a blast on your own, they'll see it on you. I prefer clubs that play house music and EDM. I can dance OKish but women always keep their distance and never acknowledge me.
/r/seduction03/05/18 09:17 PM
1

Assume girls are attracted when you approach them That is by far the most difficult. It's also the most important. It all boils down to confidence.
/r/seduction03/05/18 08:07 PM
2

You're forgetting that when women are 70, their life partners may have died No it's included. You just went into more detail and made a good point about women with older men. That's why in the 50+ there are more single women than men, it's because the men are either married, or dead.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/18 05:20 PM
13

Actually men who are 70 and single do quite well. Around that age there are a lot more single women than single men, because all the single men are dead.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/18 01:07 PM
4

Examples like that aren't realistic. For one, few people are that poor off, and also some women have a fetish for severe disabilities.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/18 09:16 PM
1

That guy looks like some kind of fish creature. The photo-shopping looks much better, but it shows that he's not helpless. When I think of incel I really only think of guys in group 2. People that should have a chance but for whatever reason(s) something has gone wrong and they aren't able to make a sexual connection with women. The idea is that game and dedication to a lifestyle change can get those men to be seen as sexual beings by women. Getting a better body is a key part in that, but the o…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/18 09:13 PM
2

Cool, thanks for the story. Though I wouldn't call somebody an incel until they are 25+. Many many guys graduated HS a virgin.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/18 01:22 AM
4

Like....really, the three main tenants of TRP are: A. Have Strong frame B. Take care of your body C. Be fun to be around B is by far the easiest to accomplish. All it takes is discipline. A and C, that's when things get difficult. Honestly I've been reading TRP for a long time, and this is the first thing I've seen somebody mention , "Be fun to be around" of course it makes perfect sense. Getting back to A and C. If somebody is an incel, and I'm using the bare-bones definition of "involuntarily …
/r/TheRedPill30/04/18 08:26 PM
12

I do well with women, but I am never going to be Brad Pitt. So should I give up too? Wow that's a major jump from actively getting laid to Brad Pitt/perfection. How did you think I meant anything other than doing well with women? To put it another way, is it possible to go from a man who never gets laid, to getting laid at least once a month? That's far from perfection, but it's still a huge change from incel.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/18 07:12 PM
25

Is it actually possible to go from invisible incel to a man who is actively getting laid? Examples seem to be pretty rare. I wonder if most guys just give up.
/r/TheRedPill30/04/18 06:45 PM
10

Hah I'm the complete opposite. I hate the chase and love the sex. It would be amazing if different women knocked on my door every day wanting the D.
/r/seduction19/04/18 12:34 PM
2

And makeup The only time a girl would notice is when I'm barefoot at my place and by then it's too late for her to care.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/18 10:16 PM
2

I actually wear "elevator" shoes every day. They look just like normal shoes. 2-3 inches of extra height, and now I'm 5'8 in them. It's at least some improvement.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/18 06:17 PM
1

( Honestly though I think a shorter frame is more efficient) I think so too. We require less food to run and we're also less prone to injury and our body falling apart. Short guys definitely get laid. It's just that it more for personality. That really is the key. When a guy is short his personality has to make up for the difference. Lots of men just don't understand that. I'm naturally a soft spoken guy and I don't have the highest confidence, so it's no surprise that I rarely get laid.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/18 05:41 PM
9

Is it possible to reach average if you're short (under 5'7?) That's a problem I've been dealing with my whole life. Unfortunately I don't have the step stool called confidence. It basically feels that women can't see me.
/r/TheRedPill17/04/18 01:52 PM
1

Try some jui jitsu and see if more strength and better cardio don't come in handy Why? Did I say anything about being a martial artist? That's like saying that somebody doens't need to be fast and telling them to run a race. good forbid you actually have to defend yourself or protect anything, physical strength Most people get into 0 fights once their out of high school. And even then most people who know how to fight suggest that the first thing you do is run away.
/r/TheRedPill03/04/18 07:23 PM
4

I agree completely. In this modern era strength is completely useless, unless you have a job where being strong is important, like being a furniture mover. That's not to mention that it's even possible to build up a defined body and still be weak. Sure you won't be hitting power lifter numbers, but you'd still be stronger than the average guy. Personally, the only reason I work out, and the reason why I'm heading to the gym in an hour, is to develop a body women like. Sure my strength is going u…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/18 09:08 PM
1

IMO being tall is playing on Normal. Adding good looking to that absolutely makes the game easier. Though as you point out, it's still completely possible to lose when you don't have a clue what to say. It's easier but not easy. Me, I'm playing Dark Souls and slowly going Hollow.
/r/seduction02/04/18 07:31 PM
3

True. It just makes me feel better to call them out even though it doesn't improve my situation.
/r/seduction02/04/18 07:22 PM
1

My mistake, I thought you were generalizing how much of an impact 4 inches of height has. Yeah, when the guy is already average height, being 4 inches taller has no impact. As for not getting laid just because you're tall, you can't know for sure because you've never been short. Frankly I'd be willing to be that if you were my height, you'd have a lot less success with women. But if you aren't having any success at your height, I don't know what to say. Height gets you in the door, the rest is u…
/r/seduction02/04/18 07:21 PM
3

Nope very intentional. And now I got the idea of having a picture while holding a bass like it's a baseball bat. Nobody would get it though.
/r/seduction02/04/18 05:37 PM
6

You missed my joke. Bassball bat ;)
/r/seduction02/04/18 05:33 PM
1

Be white That's me. Be tall Shit.
/r/seduction02/04/18 05:30 PM
7

To women it's a huge difference. Most guys don't know how shallow women really are. Especially when it comes to casual stuff. I'm 5'5. +/- 4 inches is huge.
/r/seduction02/04/18 05:21 PM
1

Shallow bitches.
/r/seduction02/04/18 05:20 PM
5

What if it's a bassball bat?
/r/seduction02/04/18 05:19 PM
1

When the mood feels right and how comfortable you are. No later than the third though.
/r/seduction30/03/18 02:20 PM
11

Ugh, don't take her to a movie.
/r/seduction07/03/18 01:28 PM
6

but how can I make this shift in mentality from “holy shit nobody cares about me” to “pfft I’ll be fine”? Simple. With time you'll make the shift to "holy shit nobody cares about me and it's fine.”
/r/seduction06/03/18 05:42 PM
2

Which places are 53% female, or simply more female in general?
/r/seduction04/03/18 01:36 PM
3

When guys are hot they don't have to do much to get women into them. Game was invented for men who are not hot.
/r/seduction27/02/18 06:40 PM
15

Yes women want to have sex with men they are physically attracted. Next question.
/r/seduction27/02/18 03:03 PM
3

Is this thread about an officers promotion or a man who is awarded a large sum of money for a false rape allegation?
/r/TheRedPill21/02/18 02:08 PM
5

Obama's scumbag Army Secretary still denied it. Unreal what that man did to the country. Do you really want to drag politics into this?
/r/TheRedPill21/02/18 01:14 PM
1

I'm 36 and I have never had a female friend introduce me to their friends. The context of the friendship doens't matter, coworkers, same class or club or whatever the girl's relationship status is. In my experience, the whole "make friends with girls so you can date their friends" simply does not work.
/r/seduction20/02/18 05:21 PM
6

Yes, girls make it easy when they like you. The problem is that most girls will not like you. That is the point of seduction. Waiting for girls to find you and that they just like you only works if you are really good looking or have a great reputation.
/r/seduction16/02/18 11:00 PM
1

One thing I've read is to take her to breakfast the next morning.
/r/askTRP18/01/18 03:16 PM
2

Seconding Rogain, or more specifically minoxidil. I've been using kirkland brand foam minoxidil for about a month and I think I'm starting to see more hairs on my face where normally they didn't grow before. It's supposed to be several months to see any real results.
/r/seduction14/01/18 06:15 AM
7

You can touch it, but I'll have to charge.
/r/seduction14/01/18 06:06 AM
0

Yup I also think it's overcompensation. They most likely hate themselves.
/r/seduction12/01/18 12:32 AM
5

That's the "solution" for every dating problem known to man.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 06:44 PM
1

Eh, women in great shape weren't that common. It was far more common to see guys who worked out. Which makes sense because the competition to get the few desirable women is so high. It's also a very racially mixed city which is good if you are interested in other women who aren't white. But as a white guy...
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 06:43 PM
3

San Diego. Right from the outset the overall demographics are terrible. Ten thousand more men than women. Here is the gender demographics map for the neighborhood I lived in. The problem should be obvious. Though just to spell it out. Whenever I went out to a bar or club or hell just doing salsa or swing dancing it was almost 2 men for every 1 woman. Once I went to singles mixer and the ratio was probably 3/1. One of the women there made a comment about how the event was "male heavy" and she was…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 03:45 PM
5

How about in the past?
/r/seduction30/12/17 05:13 PM
9

Are you going after white girls? If so, then have you thought to ask yourself, "why do men seem to vastly prefer white females?"
/r/seduction30/12/17 05:07 PM
1

It doesn't make any sense that you can claim that the dichotomy doesn't exist and then say that you're an introvert. Somebody who is an introvert should absolutely know it. There is so much more than just having the skillset to no longer be introverted. Honestly I'm actually a little insulted because I am quiet and introverted myself and I have put in some serious effort to change that. Being quiet and introverted is absolutely part of my personality. I also feel that my life would have turned o…
/r/seduction24/12/17 12:54 AM
1

It actually doesn't. As I said earlier, because of the definitions it is possible for people to be an outgoing introvert. That is somebody who enjoys approaching and starting conversations with people but can get drained from doing it for too long. I guess that something like a reserved extrovert is also possible. Somebody who is quiet and not outgoing but likes being around people and large groups. In other words, the terms introvert and extrovert are far too broad. Personally, myself and it se…
/r/seduction21/12/17 06:33 PM
1

Hah, yup that sounds like a cheat code. No six pack yet but I'm working on it, and trying gain muscle at the same time. Not easy. And thanks!
/r/seduction21/12/17 05:49 PM
1

I'm in the gym 4-5 days a week. And I say that I dress well within my means. Odds are it's my height that holds me back.
/r/seduction21/12/17 05:39 PM
2

The problem is that ALL women seem to avoid eye contact. So I don't really know what to do when I go out.
/r/seduction21/12/17 05:34 PM
1

On the 1-10 scale where are you?
/r/seduction21/12/17 03:49 PM
1

I hate to be that guy, but what do you do if you don't get eye contact from a girl? When ever I go out it seems that women go out of their eye to avoid eye contact with me. It makes approaching them a lot harder. If it matters, I'm 5'5.
/r/seduction21/12/17 03:49 PM
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It seems more like a lot of people just have a more stressful way of looking at social interactions, and then they hear about these categories and pigeonhole themselves. I agree with you about some people looking at social interactions in a stressful way. But I don't think that they "piegeonhole" themselves. Personally I don't like the terms introversion and extroversion. The categories aren't exactly opposites and I've heard of such nonsense as an "outgoing-introvert." What it all breaks down t…
/r/seduction21/12/17 03:43 PM
2

How do you bring yourself to approach and start conversations with girls in parks and coffee shops?
/r/seduction21/12/17 01:32 AM
15

You're obviously not an introverted person.
/r/seduction21/12/17 01:24 AM
10

Awesome that you got her number. I'm also introverted and the worst thing is to force myself to be outgoing and then get rejected. Of course that makes it even more difficult to be outgoing for the next time. The whole concept of mass approaching is terrifying and exhausting.
/r/seduction21/12/17 01:21 AM
2

Unfortunately there is still fat on my face. I'm 5'5 and 135ish. Some of my lady friends were going through my Facebook with me from pictures a couple of years ago when I was 160 and they said comments like "look at that chubby face." I've lost 5% body fat since then. Still got a whiles to go. My scale says I'm at 20% though I don't know how accurate that is.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/17 03:35 PM
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Possibly. Most skinny fat guys have fat in their faces and have a gut but thin arms and weak chest. With a shirt on most people would never think that the guy had that much body fat. Source (me former skinny fat guy)
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 09:29 PM
12

The average skinnyfat guy is above 15%. Probably around 20%.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 05:43 PM
2

No clue. Ask any one who knows about seduction and they will always say get the girls number. Never leave first contact up to a woman
/r/seduction08/12/17 03:27 AM
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This isnt true at all. If the girl asks for your number she is doing it with intent. Usually it's the intent of getting you to go away.
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:09 PM
5

OK great. I was worried that you didn't have any way to contact her. Carry on.
/r/seduction07/12/17 02:20 PM
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Always get the girls number. In the vast majority of times giving a girl your number and leaving first contact up to her is essentially you throwing your number in the trash.
/r/seduction07/12/17 01:48 PM
2

I did, apparently it's the main ingredient in Rogaine. And it seems that the store brand stuff (Walmart Kirkland) is just as good and cheaper than Rogaine. Might as well try it.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 05:39 PM
2

I'm 36. I So I really doubt I'll ever be able to naturally grow a beard. Thankfully I have the type of hair where I'll never go bald, so I consider it a fine trade-off. I also have a big nose and it doesn't go well with the weak chin.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 05:30 PM
7

minoxidil Interesting. I never considered a hair growth medication for facial hair.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 03:59 PM
41

What if you can't grow a beard?
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 01:48 PM
1

I've been in my current city for a year and a half. Now I'm thinking about where to move next as nothing has turned out to be the way I want.
/r/seduction08/11/17 05:32 AM
51

Girls at the club make eye contact with you? Hah whenever I go out they don't even look at me. Eye contact from a girl is pretty much her telling you to come over and talk to her.
/r/seduction03/11/17 02:21 PM
1

I just said I didn't have high confidence growing up and still got laid. I'm pretty good looking And that's why you got laid. but know straight ugly ass guys who got laid a lot too. Did they have high confidence? I'm trying to make the point that it's easier to get laid if you are good looking and/or have high confidence. I have put in a ton of effort into getting women, though I'm not good looking or have lots of confidence and I'm short so I get rejected a ton. To answer you, I put in the work…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 05:45 PM
1

Why would I have to try hard if getting laid was easy? Dude my whole argument is that getting laid is not easy. The only people who get laid easily are good looking or have very high confidence.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 05:19 PM
0

Or they are simply good looking guys and/or have lots of confidence.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 02:16 PM
1

If it's hard for the average male to get laid, then by definition getting laid is not easy. Men have to work for it. If you have to work for it, then it's not easy. Personally, I'm physically fit, decently attractive but I'm short and have low confidence. I'm 36 and have been with two women. So the concept of it being easy to get laid is simply asinine to me.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 02:14 PM
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If getting laid was easy the seduction community simply wouldn't exist. This sub wouldn't exist.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 01:21 PM
1

How did you start making out with girls in clubs?
/r/seduction11/10/17 01:20 PM
8

One of the basics of improv is "Yes, and" For example somebody says something you say "yes, and" then you expand on what they said.
/r/seduction09/10/17 03:19 PM
7

Lucy Pinder, Rachel Williams, Stacey Poole and many other women who were in Zoo or Nuts. Like women of all ethnicities, British women can be attractive or not so attractive.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/17 03:00 PM
2

Ignore people who give off lines like that. They assume that if you are complaining online that you must be not only complaining to everybody in person that you'd also be complaining to women you are trying to attracting. Obviously that's bullshit.
/r/seduction26/09/17 03:16 PM
2

Funny enough I had a female roommate back in the day. Though we were actively having sex, long story. I didn't really learn much about this type of stuff from her mainly because she wasn't really dating anybody. I'm not sure about having roommates again, but I can see how having a female roommate would be a good way to a view of how they really are.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/17 11:30 PM
12

Not being totally on topic, but I feel that I really missed out on a lot of knowledge and experience by not having a sister. It seems that guys with sisters can get a background view and understanding of how women really are. Also when you have a sister one just gets used to having girls around.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/17 07:18 PM
1

No, just no. There is no benefit to being short. None. I am 5'5. You would never want to be my height.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/17 12:58 PM
5

Have you tried actually being short? Hell what do you think is the very first thing that a woman uses to determine if a man is physically attractive?
/r/TheRedPill22/09/17 12:55 PM
6

One of the most common advice given when trying to lose weight is to exercise with weights. Keep up your caloric deficit diet but make sure you're still getting enough protein. Lift Do cardio
/r/TheRedPill22/09/17 12:53 PM
9

The only reason I went to the gym today is because I want to be attractive to women.
/r/seduction22/09/17 04:14 AM
2

I'm listening to a lot of the older material. The stuff on banter, attraction and value is very good. I'd recommend checking the toolbox for things that look interesting. I just listened to the episode where they interview the author of No More Mr. Nice guy. A lot of it was very interesting to me. And yes they do have two breaks in the middle to sell their bootcamp. That's when I push the forward 30 seconds button.
/r/seduction19/09/17 08:18 PM
3

The Art of Charm. They have a lot of material. I've been listening to them for about a month now on my drive home.
/r/seduction19/09/17 03:33 PM
10

Then don't walk back together. Say you got to take care of some things and hang back.
/r/seduction14/09/17 05:16 PM
1

If you really like a girl and she rejects you, the best thing you can do for yourself is cut contact. If you can move on quickly and go after other girls giving up all hope of being with her, then by all means stay friends.
/r/seduction11/09/17 04:14 PM
1

If possible, the best way to prevent this from happening is to pursue a handful of girls. That way you don't get emotionally tied to one girl.
/r/seduction06/09/17 04:51 PM
9

I have the same exact problem. I don't ask out girls very often and when I do it takes a lot of courage. Then when I'm inevitably rejected it feels like I wasted all that energy and I don't really want to pursue a new girl and ask her out. So I end up getting stuck on that first girl and don't lose any interest in her after the rejection. In my experience the only way to get over this is to have absolutely no contact with her and remove her from your life.
/r/seduction06/09/17 03:29 PM
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You ain't doin something right. Yup that's a simple way to put it. Even though my 30's is supposed to be the easiest/best time of my life to date and attract women it's just not happening and I'm frequently rejected. Living in a small town? Nope. I'm living in one of the populated cities in the US. I specifically moved here because the constant advice given is to move to a big city. Fat and disgusting? Not at all. I'm fit and trim. Though I wonder if it's time to start bulking. One thing you did…
/r/seduction04/09/17 12:32 AM
1

This is the first generation of women that grew up with technology (online dating/tinder/ Facebook) and the potentially infinite number of options (men) this brings them.
/r/seduction03/09/17 04:21 PM
5

Alright, then if it's legal then go for it. Strike while the iron is hot.
/r/seduction02/09/17 12:48 AM
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What's the age of consent where you live?
/r/seduction01/09/17 06:21 PM
2

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Yes I know that women want a man to make his intentions clear. The struggle I have is how to make my intentions clear in a woman while I'm not treating her any differently that any one else. And it seems like the answer is, you can't. You have to treat a woman you're interested in differently than you would treat somebody else. As you refer to, the trick seems to be balance. You can't treat her like a dude or else she'd have no idea you're into her, and you c…
/r/seduction01/09/17 06:00 PM
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Have you been to therapy yet? If so I'd recommend it as you seem to have a few issues going beyond women. Fear of success and self-sabotage are things you absolutely need to get taken care of.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 07:40 PM
1

What kind of garbage is this? People who live in a first world country can't have problems? Your post is unnecessarily hostile.
/r/TheRedPill31/08/17 06:24 PM
2

Getting women to hang out with you is a very different game than getting them to go on a date with you. I've had many women hang out with me as friends, but once I expressed interest, they ran for the hills.
/r/seduction31/08/17 05:21 PM
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The first thing you have to realize is that you're probably not going to be attracted 70-90% of women, so why would you ever treat them differently. They're just people. No sexual agenda. Just be normal. Now for the other 10-30%; you need to treat them exactly the same as everyone else but here's the tricky part: make your intentions known as quickly as possible. I know this is an old thread. But I really don't understand how to treat a girl just like everybody else and to make my intentions kno…
/r/seduction31/08/17 05:19 PM
2

Confidence with women doesn't come just because you turned 30. I'm 36 and still don't really understand how to get women into me.
/r/seduction31/08/17 05:11 PM
1

You misunderstand the advice. You should be passionate about life, your goals, your desires, but what you need to not care about are the outcomes of dating. Honestly, the advice is pretty much garbage. If nobody cared about the outcome of dating or what happens with women then the entire pickup community would not exist. We aren't Buddhist monks and the mentality of being outcome independent is simply unrealistic. If right now you are not appealing to women, then you need to work on your own per…
/r/seduction29/08/17 04:13 PM
3

It's far too high to not use a condom for random girls.
/r/seduction29/08/17 02:42 PM
5

I hope you like herpes.
/r/seduction29/08/17 01:25 PM
1

As stated in this thread a few times you should always close the lid before you flush. If you keep finding the lid up then you can have the pleasure of nagging her about putting the lid down.
/r/TheRedPill24/08/17 02:27 PM
2

I'm 35... Yeah it definitely takes years of practice. I was pretty bad. Now I can talk to just about anybody without feeling uncomfortable, regardless of their status. But in the long run, nobody has invited me to get a beer with them, and I really have no one else and I'm reluctant to invite one guy to hang out with and be bored by me.
/r/seduction22/08/17 12:25 AM
1

I'm also an IT person but nobody invites me anywhere. I try to be a people person, but I'm really introverted and push myself.
/r/seduction21/08/17 07:39 PM
1

Yes, good looking guys don't have to do anything on the approach. They can literally walk up to a girl and say, "You're hot, lets fuck." Odds are 1 out of 10 girls would say yes. That would work for an average looking dude about 1 out of 1,000 times. For the record, I'm average looking and 5'5. I'm lucky if girls even look at me. Forget about IOIs.
/r/seduction21/08/17 07:21 PM
5

Good looking guys get hit on. They just need to not screw things up. So yes. Good looking guys have to do less.
/r/seduction21/08/17 05:45 PM
6

Looks mattering has an inverse relationship with how good your game/confidence is. The smoother you are with women, the less good looking you need to be. If you have no skills with women and are lacking confidence, then good looks will be the only way to get girls.
/r/seduction21/08/17 05:03 PM
1

It's also freed you from the delusion that a woman will rescue you, and freed you from the trap of marriage. Quite likely without us you'd have met a mediocre woman and she would have ensnared you with sex and you'd think "I'll upgrade one day", and spend the rest of your life in quiet desperation before getting thoroughly divorce raped. Since I'm 35 and still single that really wasn't a problem. If anything I know how to better qualify a woman and keep my head on straight in a relationship. Tho…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/17 12:20 AM
1

I'm currently reading through the side bar and I'm currently on Powertalk and other Language Categories. Surprisingly very little of it is actually about how to improve onself and begin attracting women. The vast majority of the content is "The world sucks, and this is why women don't like you." In my opinion it needs to be gone through and have other articles removed and added to it.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/17 09:54 PM
1

Yeah, I see this attitude here a lot too.... in one of two forms: "But I know this stuff, why am I not banging hot chicks?" Hah I have this exact mentality. Honestly it's extremely frustrating how I've read so much material and I'm "woke" but I still can't get laid. Frankly the only thing all the reading has done is made me angry and hate women more.
/r/TheRedPill14/08/17 09:50 PM
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Uh, guys who are struggling with women/new members and are seeking help are most likely not expressing Fun/Positivity Carefree Passionate/Engaged/Excited The whole concept of offering value is completely foreign. That said, I have yet to read the source material. RSD Julien "Being a hot girl is like being a millionaire, everybody wants something from you." That part is 100% accurate. I'd also add that most guys are completely helpless around those girls. There is one really hot girl in my office…
/r/TheRedPill14/08/17 05:02 PM
1

I had no idea about any of this. Thank you. Next week I'm absolutely going to go earlier. Which also means I get to leave earlier and sleep. Win win.
/r/seduction13/08/17 10:06 AM
1

Oh, I had no idea about pics not being allowed. Not to argue but the rules don't mention anything. As for being short not mattering. I'll just say that I disagree.
/r/seduction13/08/17 10:02 AM
1

Sounds like you should focus on improving yourself. I have been. It seems to me you might be looking for a woman hoping that will suddenly improve your life. Correct. It doesn't, generally it has the opposite effect. Not in my case though. It has the desired effect. My life was infinitely better when I had a girlfriend. I've also had a regular FWB and while that wasn't as good as having a girlfriend, being able to have regular sex was great for my confidence.
/r/seduction13/08/17 08:48 AM
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The clubs generally close at 1:30. I'm usually at the clubs for the last hour or so. I thought that was the best time to go as the girls would be the drunkest/easiest. I've never considered the overall vibe of a club. Though yes, the girls almost always seem to have their guards up.
/r/seduction13/08/17 08:45 AM
1

I drink to get out of my head and stop overthinking everything. I've already tried daygame cold approaching. That's literally the worst thing possible thing for me.
/r/seduction13/08/17 08:39 AM
1

Yeah I never thought about grabbing a girl. I have absolutely no interest in freaking anybody out. The second is I don't know where guys got this idea that a woman is going to eye fuck them and that's a man's cue to go over. That has never happened to me. Virtually all PUA material says to approach any woman that gives you IOI's or makes eye contact and smiles or makes eye contact and looks down etc. But in my experience, women don't make eye contact so all the material gets thrown out. How do y…
/r/seduction12/08/17 03:36 PM
1

I know I shouldn't be, but I'm very outcome dependent. I have never took home a girl I met at a bar or club and I've never kissed anybody either. I haven't gotten any numbers. I've been at my apartment for a full year and I have yet to bring a woman inside. I've been rejected by every girl I've ever liked. So there have been simply no results. As for what I've done, I've read material for ten years, took two bootcamps, got pretty good at Salsa and Swing dancing and I frequently go out to night c…
/r/seduction12/08/17 03:08 PM
3

You're not going to get noticed if all you think about is getting your dick wet.. Have fun, dance and let loose And then what? The girls will start dancing on me? There was one guy last night that was better looking, more muscular, taller etc than me who was doing his own thing the whole night and not a single woman went up to him. Granted he was really letting loosing and seemed like he was on something. Either way the girls seemed to be keeping their distance from him.
/r/seduction12/08/17 02:55 PM
1

Assuming that the girl never glances over at me, what's the action to take?
/r/seduction12/08/17 02:52 PM
1

I used to frequently go out for Salsa and Swing dancing. I've never been able pick up a girl at one of those places. The ratio is pretty good at swing dancing, but for Salsa there is far too many men. The club I went to last night was having their House Music night and there was a good mix of people. From what I've read, bars and clubs are the best places to meet women for one night stands, though at this point I'd be happy to just make out with a girl. That's not going to happen at a ballroom t…
/r/seduction12/08/17 02:51 PM
9

How do you engage a girl that never looks at you? That is what I'm struggling with. I keep reading that you are supposed to go up to women that give you IOI's or makes eye contact and smile etc. But women just don't look at me and almost seem to be avoiding eye contact. Something more complicated is happening that I don't get.
/r/seduction12/08/17 02:41 PM
2

Sometimes, women will be too afraid to make eye contact or they'll try to use that old trick of "let's ignore him and maybe he'll pay more attention to me" Hah, they all must be masters then. I've had a few girls last night be dancing close to me then suddenly take of and go the other other part of the dance floor and walk in front of me. Sometimes, women will be too afraid to make eye contact or they'll try to use that old trick of "let's ignore him and maybe he'll pay more attention to me" Hmm…
/r/seduction12/08/17 02:39 PM
1

Try to dance close to them and try to make eye contact with them. That is what I'm trying to do and they never make eye contact. If a girl is dancing in front of you and glances back occasionally she wants to dance with you. They never glance at me and I'm afraid to just grab a girl and be seen as super creepy.
/r/seduction12/08/17 02:37 PM
5

I'm 35, 5'5. Depression. Intervoerted. Learning curve. I feel like I'm trying to climb Mt Everest on a unicycle. The game has been extremely difficult for me. I've been aware of pickup for over ten years yet I've made zero progress. At this point it feels like something is actively trying to make sure I don't succeed with women.
/r/seduction12/08/17 08:50 AM
1

Cool. I was wondering if you were doing this at Salsa and Bachata clubs which don't seem to be the best place for makeouts.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/17 02:20 PM
1

Escalating things physically much faster-you can pretty much eliminate prefuck conversations and get a shortcut to the making out . I usually just dance with girl and see how she responds to little more wilder dancing and if you have green light just transition to making out and later fucking. What types of places are you doing this at?
/r/TheRedPill09/08/17 01:25 PM
1

Ugh, it's $25 a month to use if you don't buy an annual pass. Either way I signed up and then made sure to cancel the auto-renewal. So far I've messaged two women who seem like they would know what they are doing.
/r/seduction05/08/17 06:22 PM
2

I've actually been consistently working out since May of last year. I've lost 13 pounds since then. Yeah it may not seem a lot but I was only 148 back then. I'm absolutely noticing that my shirts are becoming tighter around the shoulders, chest and arms while my pants no longer fit. Unfortunately I still got the same chubby face. A long time ago I went through a bulk phase without cutting first and hit 168 but I just looked fat. That's also when my ex dumped me. I wonder if there was any correla…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 05:17 PM
1

I'm saying that the only reason he's getting women is because he's famous or the woman has a fetish. If he wasn't famous, or the woman didn't have a fetish, he would have no success at all.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 03:57 PM
3

Hah, you made me break out my measuring tape. 13 inch guns. I'm still trying to figure out if I should cut or bulk since I'm skinnyfat. Right now I'm 135 @ 24% body fat. I would love to be 150 @ 15% but the road to getting there is really confusing.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 03:55 PM
1

The thing about generating positive feedback loops is that in order to build momentum, the action taken to achieve the goal MUST be reinforced by a reward. The problem with this method and women, is that women are people and we cannot control them. That is exactly the problem. I never get a reward for me efforts to interact with women. Usually I end up getting my feelings hurt, yes I know how much I sound like a pussy. It would be absolutely amazing that if I approached and made conversation wit…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 03:49 PM
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Thanks for the well thought out reply. Unfortunately it's what I feared, yet expected. Trick yourself into believing everything is OK. Knowing is half the battle, as they say. Yo Joe! Breaking the negative feedback loop takes self awareness. I've been aware of my negative feedback loop for over 10 years. Every now and then I try the methods of stopping the negative self-talk and giving positive affirmations and such like that. The problem is that everything shatters when I'm rejected. You over c…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 05:23 AM
1

They aren't? Then what are the best environments to pull? That or at least getting a makeout.
/r/seduction05/08/17 04:56 AM
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The better your looks, especially your face as OP mentions, the more receptive women will be obviously. But, the key is the more willing they will be to assume every small thing you do is flirting. Really good looking men just have the luxury of moving slower in their approaches, same with any high SMV male. If you have a fuckton of status and every chick knows it, you can stand in a corner facing a wall and probably still leave with a chick. Facial beauty is just status that is instantly recogn…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:46 AM
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So, realize it isn't because he is good looking, but rather because his success (certainly, initially due to his good looks) created a feedback loop of positive reinforcement and confidence which he not attributes to "just his looks" because, from his perspective, that is the only attributing factor he is aware of. That right there explains everything. Confidence comes from past success. It's a positive feedback loop. And most likely he got his first success at an early age without having to do …
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:37 AM
1

I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or truthful about your post. Like you actually expected her to contribute something to society.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:30 AM
1

Why did you stop at fingering?
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:28 AM
1

Thanks for answering. Yeah that's pretty much what I expected. In order for a short guy to do well he has to have a very high level of confidence and/or be really good looking. I'm 5'5 and would say no to both categories, so it's no surprise I haven't kissed a girl in almost two years.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:26 AM
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Really fat, yes. But he's not bad looking. http://articles.rsdnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/luke-sm.jpg Also he's 5'10 and has that going for him. I'd say he's around a 6/10 just on looks. Or maybe 5 because 5'10 is average height? God being short ruins everything for me. If he's a 5 then I'm a 4 at best, possible a 3 because I'm 5'5, average face and trim body. Ugh I feel a little sick.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:25 AM
1

5'8" -> 5'10" That's merely two inches. What?! So you're telling me that if you were 2 inches taller, you'd be chad? You're disillusioned, bud. Hit the sidebar. Did you mean to reply to me? Your post doesn't match anything I said. Either way, I"ll play along. I'm 5'5. 5'5" -> 5'10" That's five inches. Yes, if I was 5 inches taller I would be Chad. Or pretty damn close to it. As for the sidebar, I've read up to and including. On Value and the Value of Women. Frankly most of the sidebar isn't help…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:19 AM
1

There are plenty of PUAs that started out as dweebs, why do you think they got in PUA in the first place? I'm not so sure about that. Tyler AKA Owen Cook actually had a girlfriend in High School/College. Then something happened he felt burnt and decided to learn pickup. That story is very common. What I've never heard is a current pro pua who was an incel at 20+. Basically a man who didn't understand women whatsoever who became good. From my readings very few men who are that bad actually have a…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/17 04:15 AM
1

That guy looks average. He does seem a little short though. What I don't get though is how do guy actually get to that level of confidence. I don't think I've heard of a single PUA that started with not having a clue with women to becoming good.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:41 PM
1

Would you say that you are outgoing and or have a high level of confidence. Or would you say that you are above average in looks?
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:33 PM
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Honestly I can't tell if he's whining or bragging. 60 girls is way above average. Me an actual 5'5 manlet, I've been with 2.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:33 PM
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the worst part is I can't even talk about it because people just call me an "indian race troll" and downvote. It fucking sucks. Which ethnicity are you pursuing?
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:30 PM
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How old are you? Have you only dated 2 girls? Or only 2 amazing girls? I'm a 5'5 white guy, 35 and I've seriously dated only one girl and she happened to be amazing. My height didn't bother her at all. Sadly I do not have an engaging and fun personality unless people really get to know me. Mostly I'm just quiet and stick to myself. Introversion + being short = hell.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:29 PM
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He's either with a girl because she absolutely pities him, has some sick fascination with little people, or because he's famous. Life is very different for a 5'5 white guy who is simply average.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:27 PM
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RSD Luke He's 5'10 and actually not bad looking. I wonder if he started at being somewhat OK with women or starting at the bottom?
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 11:23 PM
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I'm 5'9 and tall guys don't have anything on me because I'm way more fun to be around. Well yeah, you're average height. Height is not an issue for you. A taller guy is maybe is .5 to 1 out of 10 more attractive than you. If you were 5'7 or under then you'd have a much different opinion.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 10:24 PM
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She has a pussy. What else does she need to do?
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 08:10 PM
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I know in my case, the past few girls I took out on a first date, I made out with them (fingered one in the parking lot this past week), had good convos, they seemed extremely interested. Texted me they had a good time that night and I never hear from them again. This happened a lot to me the past three years. Hmm then maybe the best thing to do is just to push for sex that way they get the bonding chemicals and start chasing you.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 08:09 PM
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The only way that could have been better is if a foul ball came flying by and hit one of them in the face.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 08:06 PM
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Yes birth control had a part in it, but not as much as tech and social media. Birth control came out in the 60's and from then to the early 00's things were simply not as bad as they are no. The huge problem is that thanks to tech woman basically have infinite options. This not how things were in the past and the only options they had were the men they met in person. A normal woman on Tinder can have 600 matches in a month and that is far more men expressing their interest in her than the same w…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 08:03 PM
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You put too much on height. For some women it's all it takes but for others as long as you're taller than them they don't care. You have no idea how much I wish this was true. I've read a ton about this issue as it directly affects me. From my research it seems that almost all women prefer a man to be 7 inches taller than her. So a 5'1 woman wants a 5'8 man at the minimum. As around 5'9 woman height, that preferred gap between gets smaller and caps out at 3 inches. So essentially 5'8 is the mini…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 08:00 PM
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If it bugs you then you should move, literally anywhere else in the world. I'm assuming that you know English and Swedish, maybe German too so just move.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 07:56 PM
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Heck he just has to move to any other country and he'd do even better. Not like he's struggling at all right now since he's 5'9.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 05:55 PM
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Regardless, the women there do not seem to think you are short. Honestly I don't know enough about Sweden to see what the average height is. Me, I'm white, 5'5, born and raised in the United States and the average male height is 5'10. The average female height is about 5'4. Unless you are around the same height as the average woman in Sweden, you have no idea what it is to actually be short. I also have no idea how much Swedish women care about height. American women are ruthless and it's so bad…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 05:53 PM
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Manlet at 5'9? Get the hell out of here. Dude I'm 5'5, you don't know shit. The only reason you feel small is because you are in a country where everybody is giant.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 05:41 PM
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This actually should give guys here a lot of hope. Why? He's 5'9 not 5'4. He would be average height if he wasn't living in Giant Land.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 05:39 PM
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Holy crap that is depressing to read. Like shit, what do we do?
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 05:37 PM
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Technology and social media is the worst thing to ever happen to men.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 05:36 PM
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I lied. I'm 16. Your writing definitely makes you seem older than you are. Which means that you must be fairly intelligent. The simple fact that you are so young means that just by living your life all of your problems will clear themselves up, especially if you are that tall at only 16. You may even not be done growing. Your face will change and your body will naturally put on mass. Since you're just a kid, here are the tips that are relevant. Stand up straight and have proper posture. Make sur…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 04:16 PM
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Absolutely not. A man with an 6' guy with average face will have far more women into him than the most good looking guy you've ever seen but he's 5'4. There is just no comparison. also some things we can control like a fit body, confidence, high social status. Yes those things are important. Not only that, they are essential for a short guy to get any where with women. Sadly I'm lacking in all of them, but I'm working on my body. I don't know how to improve the other two.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 04:11 PM
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I looked at a few more of your posts and you're 17 which frankly changes everything. You remind me of my little brother who was your age complaining that girls didn't like him and now that he's 22 he's probably slept with more girls than I have at 35 simply because he's 5'10 even though he's not nearly as good looking as I am. Height is magic. And yes being average height is perfectly fine. No 5'10 isn't tall, but since I'm 5'5 I automatically think of it as being tall. As for cuck and other wor…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 03:33 PM
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Hah it looks like I'm stalking you in this thread. As for lifting. I'm already horribly skinny for my height, so at least I don't have to lose weight beforehand. Mainly been concentrating on my arms and shoulders though, because they might as well be sticks at the moment. There's your problem. You should be around 200 lbs at your height. DO NOT solely focus on your arms and shoulders. Your body is a total package. Every week you should do workouts that encompass bench press, incline bench press,…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 03:21 PM
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About the Incel beta thing though. If an incel is involuntarily celibate, he could technically still be beta, right? A voluntary celibate (a V-Cel, as I call them. Sounds scientific) would be more along the lines of MGTOW, no? I'm really not sure, genuinely asking. Without a doubt, 99.9% of incels are beta. If they weren't beta then they wouldn't be involuntarily celibate. MGTOW is a man who knows he can get women, but he chooses not to. It does not apply to incels.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 03:16 PM
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At 5' 11" unless there is an extra arm growing out of your face (joke) you should be able to get at least a SMV 5. (that's half all women to pick from) I had the same thought. Women are attracted to height and as long as he doesn't disgust women he should be getting some attention simply due to the height. If she was short and ugly, that's a whole different story.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 03:14 PM
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How the heck can you be an incel at 5'10? I'm an incel as well but I'm only 5'5. Are you being serious about your face being shit or exaggerating? I've been called a "cutie" by a few women so I'm not ugly, but I'm not getting laid either. At your height putting on muscle will definitely help. There are plenty of tall ugly dudes with muscle that still get women. BTW, you're using cuck wrong. A cuck is a guy with a girlfriend that is being cheated on by her and he knows it.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/17 03:10 PM
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Don't worry about sex or women right now. While I would love to do so, it's not possible. I've gone without both for far too long and it's having a significant negative impact on my sense of well being. Find yourself a mentor or someone in real life that can help show you the way. How? Many people over the years have suggested I find a mentor, but how do you actually do that?
/r/TheRedPill03/08/17 04:28 PM
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So what do you do when the only thing you experience is failure? No matter how hard I try, success is rare. Success with sex or women is even rarer.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/17 03:37 PM
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If it had failed I would certainly be associated with the scandalous and attracted more attention and possible SMV. Or it could have gone the opposite way and made everybody believe that you are full of shit. Honestly I can't see any success if I spread a rumor around the office that I had sex with my crush. Yes it would most likely lead her having an angry discussion with me and then she'd tell everybody that I was lying and that I'm a huge creep. The other women in the office would begin to di…
/r/TheRedPill02/08/17 05:49 PM
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It's important to have female friends when growing up. The last thing you want to do is hangout just with a bunch of guys only. Try to make friends with guys that know girls. Go to parties. Don't crush on a girl who turns you down. Try to have a fit body. At your age it basically means don't get fat. Look a bit into style. Try to wear colors that compliment each other. Always have good hygiene. If any girl shows interest in you, and she doesn't turn you off, go for it. There are a few girls in m…
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:04 PM
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Which really sucks, but I know it's how the world works. Being 5'5 doesn't make things any easier.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/17 03:02 PM
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I see what your motivation is but this is coming from the mindset that beauty is the only element of attraction. Absolutely not. But beauty makes it easier to fall for somebody. I had a very long standing crush on a girl at my office who was one of the most attractive women I've ever known. She was also one of the most sweet, kind and caring girls that I've ever known. She also had a cool personality. The problem with her was that she was married. Declining friendship with anyone because they're…
/r/seduction27/07/17 03:01 PM
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If you're legitimately trying and still getting reject you're either crazy ugly Uh, I'm 5'5. So close to crazy ugly. I'm also not that smooth which makes things worse. I've gone after a wide variety of women these pas few years. The girl before my current obsession was pretty wide indeed. Find the ugliest girl on Craigslist and go fuck her. It's pointless if there is no attraction.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/17 02:33 PM
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I like being around beautiful women as well. But I know that I will usually fall for the hottest/nicest one if I'm not dating/sleeping with anyone at the time. It's even easier for me to fall for them if I consider them to be friends. It's impossible to live a life of abundance when you aren't getting laid. In other words, just being around pretty girls is not preventing a scarcity mindset.
/r/seduction27/07/17 02:31 PM
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This thread is a bunch of false hope for guys who are or were actually in the friendzone with girls they liked and have not kissed yet or had any romantic/sexual contact.
/r/seduction27/07/17 03:09 AM
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Bingo. I'm a little bit late but I came to the comments to post this. Because he's already made out with her, he wasn't in the friendzone. If anything he was in limbo. Still a much better place than the friendzone.
/r/seduction27/07/17 03:07 AM
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Caveat: Do not enter into the friendzone with hot girls if you aren't actively getting laid. You'll just end up falling for one of those girls. Been there done that.
/r/seduction27/07/17 02:58 AM
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Outside of that, I would suggest gaming to the max if possible. A lot of people are going to tell you the opposite, take up a hobby, build model airplanes, I don't fucking know. All of that's bullshit. You start getting regular sex from a stable of girls, it'll feel like the volume's turned down. Absolutely. This sub is called Seduction. The entire premise is about getting laid. A man is unhappy that he isn't getting laid enough and the vast majority of replies are telling him to be happy with w…
/r/seduction27/07/17 02:56 AM
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I love long walks during the day. I live California and there is plenty of sun here, except not these past few days. Though whenever I'm on break I always go for a walk outside. I have blackout curtains which are real nice. The heat is starting to be a problem here and I've started sleeping with a window open. I didn't get any sleep last night for unknown reasons and I hope I can sleep tomorrow.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/17 02:40 AM
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Flirting is easier when your first goal when meeting an attractive especially attractive lady is stating your intentions for sex. Then any comments that derail that "reality", ignore or deconstruct. That's going direct. But still yes, the basis of flirting is expressing an interest and having fun with that interest. I don't think frame and charm are the same thing. Charm is talking and acting in a certain way that attracts woman. Frame is how you are. A man can have a charming frame and he is su…
/r/TheRedPill27/07/17 02:38 AM
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Heres the thing, women seem to make up a big amount of unhappiness in your life until you get them. Of course. That's how life is. How much time do you spend thinking about having a roof over your head and a hot meal? Odds are it's never. But a homeless person, that's all they think about. It makes perfect sense that the same would apply with women. I try to get enough sleep, but my job requires me to wake up at 5:30, which is too early for me. I also have frequent insomnia which goes hand-in-ha…
/r/TheRedPill27/07/17 02:33 AM
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Hah! I'm in a bad case of oneitis right now. Though that's normal for me as I'm almost always crushing on some girl who doesn't like me. I thought about doing intervals but I don't know if they're the best thing for me at my old age of 35. I want to avoid anything that can fuck my knees up. Though I could probably do them on the eliptical or even swimming. Right now I'm cutting and my diet is high protein, low carb, low sugar. Though I've actually heard that cutting can make you feel more depres…
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 09:52 PM
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Right now my diet is trying to avoid carbs so I can lose more fat. I'm probably very low on serotonin.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 09:39 PM
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You can be depressed and charming. I known I am. How? I feel that I don't smile enough, and that I'm not out going enough, which causes women not to respond to me in the right way. I've been in therapy for a long time and it was all about learning to be happy by myself and I just don't see the point in that. Yes it's true that I don't talk to enough women. I really don't have the energy to go out and socialize, but I have to push myself. I signed up for a few meetup groups which hopefully will b…
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 07:22 PM
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I havent been with a woman for 3+ years. I was depressed until i decided to take control. Are you currently on a 3+ year dryspell or did you just come off of it? You have to understand that you are enough right now at this moment. I really wish that was the true. I absolutely do. But with women constantly rejecting me I know that it's not. There is something that I'm missing. And something about me is scaring women away. Don't do it for the bitches, you'll get them along your journey. Do it for …
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 07:18 PM
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How difficult is it supposed to be to become a normal guy who goes on dates with normal girls?
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 07:14 PM
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I am working on myself, trying to lose bodyfat and get down to 15%. Plus I'm reading tons of "self-help" material and studying for my certificates so I can get a better job. Heck I've even been clean from porn for a week. I have been working on myself for a while now, but success with women just is not coming and it's starting to make me even more depressed. What's really frustrating, is that there aren't that many more ways I can fix myself. The only thing really wrong with me, is that I'm unha…
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 07:13 PM
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What have you got to lose by giving it another shot?
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 04:23 PM
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I've actually been through therapy. The root cause of my depression is not having any women in my life. It's been almost two years since I last kissed a woman. Any man would be depressed with those circumstances. What I've noticed is that the men who have women in their lives, are the ones who flirt the most with other women and women respond to them. Most likely it's because those men are happy since they already have a woman.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 03:09 PM
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How do you become more charming and confident when you're always tired and depressed? Yes I'm in the gym doing heavy weights about 3-4 days a week. Edit: Lots of good replies here. Thanks everybody.
/r/TheRedPill26/07/17 02:42 PM
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So how does a beta man get laid? Lift yes, and then?
/r/TheRedPill24/07/17 12:02 AM
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The problem I have with books like these is that while it's good to understand why women act a certain way, it doesn't actually tell you how to get women. If anything if reading books like these makes you believe that all women are lying cheating cunts, then it's going to make you hate women which will of course make it harder for you to get laid.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/17 11:55 PM
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Thanks for the extra details. I dance mainly salsa and bachata. But in order to get close to the girls bachata is much better. That makes sense. And I need to take some more bachata lessons. If you are a dancer and you live in a somehow medium sized or big cities you will always know the parties. Where I live we have dance parties for bachata and salsa seven days per week. Hmm, I live in a really big city that has at least three salsa/bachata dance clubs, but I never hear of dance parties. Are t…
/r/seduction21/07/17 08:39 AM
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Not only that, there is a level of drunkenness where I can no longer properly dance. I just need enough to turn off the part of my brain that keeps telling me "no."
/r/seduction20/07/17 11:32 PM
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I doubt that is the problem as in my example I'm not even trying anything. Looking around the posts on this section from the couple of guys that get it, the trick is to dance with the same girl a few times and then just try to kiss her.
/r/seduction20/07/17 10:26 PM
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I don't have any friends that like to dance so it's just me. Still it's worth a shot. Probably after I've had a couple of shots.
/r/seduction20/07/17 10:25 PM
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Oh ho ho. OK then. Why not? I've never made out with a girl on a dance floor, but then again, I've never really tried. Does that work better in places that sell alcohol? Or does it not matter?
/r/seduction20/07/17 08:15 PM
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Kind of sketchy, but he's in a long distance relationship, so he doesn't try to. Girls will literally flock to the section were in so they can dance with him, but it won't go further than dancing Ah that's understandable. He's in a relationship so he doesn't mess with other women and making out with these women Uh whu?! That was unexpected. How does he start making out with girls? What kind of dancing is he doing? I assumed Salsa but that seems not to be the case.
/r/seduction20/07/17 07:54 PM
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Does he sleep with or go on dates with the women?
/r/seduction20/07/17 07:46 PM
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Secondly OP never defined what type of dancing, Yes he did. Own that shit. Latin dances (salsa,bachata, reggeton) swing, americana. He's clearly talking about ballroom/partner dancing. He is not writing about night club dancing to hip hop. One from the sounds of things you're trying to pick up girls at a dancing class, which is not advantageous, they're their to learn how to dance the salsa, not get hit on. No, I'm talking about places that have Swing and Salsa dancing. It may be at a bar that h…
/r/seduction20/07/17 06:02 PM
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What kind of dancing are you talking about? Is there alcohol involved? Text her and tell her to go to a party with you the day after. -????? I'm a little lost on that part. What if you don't know of any parties? Still I like the idea of coming back to her later. In my experience out dancing swing and salsa it's impossible to build up any sort of a connection with one dance and a decent looking girl who dances is in high demand in those clubs.
/r/seduction20/07/17 05:41 PM
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That's why you do it again. Maintain the high.
/r/seduction20/07/17 05:11 PM
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Do you talk with them while you dance? It's difficult but most of the time yes. Do you ever ask them if they want to go grab a drink, before some dude "runs up and grabs her"? Nope. How do you do that when you've been doing a fast paced dance for a few minutes and barely know her? Lindy Hop is a version of swing dancing. Just look at some videos. hough they don't sound like styles you'd practice at a bar or dance club. They're not. But this thread isn't about dances you'd do at a bar or club. It…
/r/seduction20/07/17 04:56 PM
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Sorry but no. I've been regularly dancing Salsa and Lindy Hop / East Coast swing for a couple of years. I'm talking like going out one or two days a week every single week. Not once have I got laid from a girl I met out while dancing. What literally happens is that I dance with a girl, and then as soon as the song end another guy runs up and grabs that girl to dance with her. At the end of the night I've danced with ~10 women and have a nice set of blue balls. I haven't gone out in at least a mo…
/r/seduction20/07/17 04:41 PM
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If women are constantly shooting you down without ever giving you a chance, what are the first things to try/change to start getting somewhere? Yes I lift, dress nice, have good hygiene. I'm short and introverted and look surprisingly like Darren Kitchen.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/17 03:35 PM
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It has more to do with your height. I feel women in general have been conditioned to want tall men. It's a relief to read that from you. It's becoming a very common thing for people to deny that height has any impact on a man's physical attractiveness. It's almost like denying that men like boobs. 5'9 is technically average height, though being 5'9 and black is probably enough of a negative combination that it effects things. Me being 5'5 is absolutely enough of a negative that it cancels out an…
/r/seduction19/07/17 07:34 PM
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Yes you are correct that you wrote that. But even then, is it really enough? Maybe it's due to a lack of comprehension or simply being unable to relate. I've read Models and listened to the audio book and it didn't mesh with me. I'm currently rereading the sidebar, as I was inspired by your post and read up to Confessions of a Reformed Incel. That was really good for the vast majority of it until he magically fucks a stripper and he lives happily ever after. I'm on to the next article.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/17 06:32 PM
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I'm assuming that your post is directed at me as I'm the thread writer. Black man here... if you're a white male looking for a white woman, your chances of success versus any other race are significantly higher based solely off race. That is what I'd like to believe. But life has told me that it's not true at least for me, for reasons that you go into. And it's more frustrating for when a woman chooses a man of a different race over me. Realistically though it's just an anger reaction. If you ar…
/r/seduction19/07/17 05:55 PM
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If you have read the sidebar material and maybe one book about game, like i.e. "Models" by Mark Manson, you know enough in order to succeed with women. God I wish that was true. Some men are just fucked up beyond that.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/17 05:34 PM
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I get it. I really do. But there are 1000's, if not 100's of 1000's of men working on themselves. And many of them are not getting the results they want. You know why? Because no guy is attractive to 100% of women and no guy gets 100% of the women he wants. I read something like the average guy is considered unattractive to 80% of women. So I know how fucked up everything is. The guys that are pulling high numbers are spending way more time on pulling girls than you are AND they are getting reje…
/r/seduction19/07/17 05:02 PM
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All of the Asian women that turned me down were American born. Though in all situations where I saw the next guy they dated, it was with a guy who spoke the same Asian language she did. American-born Asian women tend to prefer to date white men for the same reason that we would like to date white women: status points and bragging rights. I've thought about that too. Though there must not be any bragging points about dating a 5'5 guy since they all rejected me. My theory is that if Asian women wa…
/r/seduction19/07/17 04:47 PM
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Everyone is a little bit racist. But yes, experiencing a white woman turning me down for a man of a different race adds a bit of racism to the already negative feelings of being turned down.
/r/seduction19/07/17 04:43 PM
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Yes your thread was part of the inspiration. Though I have seen many posts in seduction just like yours. Doing a search for "white girls" is full of Asian and Indian guys asking about how to get white girls. It's annoying and frustrating to see. However, you drop the ball when you act like this is some kind of conscious decision by us. Though isn't it? In your thread you mention that you are after white girls over Asian girls. Is the mass media influence that strong? It's actually laughably hypo…
/r/seduction19/07/17 04:39 PM
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Status points and bragging rights. Thanks for being honest about that. And that's because of Hollywood making the blonde haired blue eye white woman the ultimate female ideal. When in reality, they are just women and who are pickier and more stuck up than most other women of different races because of this. Also the "ethnic women mostly prefer men of their ethnicity" assumption is more complicated for Asians. A lot of American-born Asian women actually prefer to date out. I'm a lot more aware of…
/r/seduction19/07/17 03:41 PM
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Why do you like white girls? Because it's perfectly natural to prefer women of your own ethnicity. Also it's the norm for men to be attracted to women who look like their mother. I hope that opens your eyes to how whiny you sound right now. stfu and work on yourself. Best of luck! It's frustrating that despite all the work I've put into myself I still can't get the girls I should and I see men of other races as competition for something I should not be competing against them for. This thread was…
/r/seduction19/07/17 03:20 PM
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People can be attracted to whatever they choose. So it just compounds and compounds. Over inflating their ego.
/r/seduction19/07/17 03:11 PM
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Oh, stop. The majority of white women prefer white men over every other ethnicity by far. I'm not sure about that because it's getting more common to see white women with men of other ethnicities. And white men generally do better than every other ethnicity in online dating with various types of women. Online dating is a crapshoot for all men. I've had zero luck with women of all races.
/r/seduction19/07/17 03:10 PM
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Nooooooooo! I think I would kill it as an Asian guy in a place with a large Asian population. Oh, that's a little different. For one, California has a grossly imbalanced ratio of young single men to young single women. It's almost 2 guys for every girl; especially in the big cities. I'm into white and Asian girls with Asian girls as 2nd Oh wait, here we go again. Dude give it a fucking rest. In California white girls are preferred by black, Asian, Indian, Hispanic and believe it or not, white me…
/r/seduction19/07/17 02:17 PM
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Those guys are stupid as hell. But I understand the exasperation when that's all that's out there.
/r/askTRP18/07/17 09:21 PM
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Though nobody is going to help her raise those kids. I'm absolutely not an alpha guy but I adamantly refuse to date any woman who has kids.
/r/askTRP18/07/17 08:16 PM
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They like the CC because it offers excitement and experiences , in a world where women are told to never settle they think the best way to know what they want is to try everything they can . It's like letting a kid loose in the candy store for a week to eat whatever they want . They are going to eat half the store and by the end of the week be miserable and feeling shitty about themselves and all the shit they put in their bodies. When do they start to figure out that what they are doing to them…
/r/askTRP18/07/17 08:15 PM
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This is bugging me a lot right now. There is a pretty blonde woman I'm interested in who a few months ago got burned by a buff black guy on the CC. She has turned me down a few times and now it looks like she's going to get back on the CC with another buff black guy. I'm think bitch, did you not learn the lesson the first time?! She's 29. What the fuck is wrong with her? Yes I know, oneitis etc.
/r/askTRP18/07/17 08:12 PM
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I've been seriously lifting for about 8 months now. While it may not be any serious accomplishment, me 5'5 at 135 pounds, yesterday I was doing deadlifts sets of 190. My max bench is somewhere around 170. While it's nice to know that I'm getting stronger and that I'm looking a little better, it has done nothing to increase my confidence and lower anxiety. Frankly I'm still getting rejected by women and that is what keeps my confidence down.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/17 11:01 PM
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These are masculine traits, which come naturally when you start lifting and improving yourself. What I'm trying to say is that those traits do not come naturally just because one is lifting and works on himself. What you are saying is that the trick to get wealthy is to have a job and go to work everyday. In fact, that's enough to get by but unless you have a very high paying job, you won't get rich.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/17 09:59 PM
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Yet many many beta men aren't getting laid. Something isn't adding up.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/17 03:57 AM
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Very well thought out analysis of the authors original post. Just a couple of points I wanted to bring up. Starting off I think you are extremely wrong on this point Secondly, the idea that females reject betas is wrong. Of course women reject beta males. How could you even think otherwise? The whole reason the seduction community exists is because of the multitude of beta men that are getting rejected. "This is very difficult to do, because women are very adept at deciphering tiny signals and c…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/17 02:38 AM
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Prostitutes are actually far more expensive. Just think about having to pay a girl $200 every time you want to have sex with her. That would get very expensive very quickly. What the hell does go your own way mean? Why would I want to do that without pussy?
/r/TheRedPill13/07/17 04:32 PM
1

Eye opening post. I have absolutely no power. Never did. Obviously women were never into me. So how can a short introverted man build power in a way that attracts women.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/17 06:18 PM
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If you want pussy get pussy. If it was that easy to get pussy this sub wouldn't exist.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/17 06:14 PM
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Very interesting, so he basically changed his personality. That is encouraging. I need a DGAF mentality because I seriously care way too damn much. Thanks for the suggestions. I'm actually very aware of how I talk and know that it's a huge weakness of mine. Mainly my tone of voice and that I talk too fast thanks to my speech impediment. Just one more thing I need to overcome. Thankfully I don't have any "ums" or "likes." Yeah sure, I'll do the no fap thing. Nothing to lose. I've had a couple ret…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/17 04:40 PM
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nihilistic I looked it up and it's quite a complicated concept. add to the fact that I'm already a bitter cynic I got that part handled. The problem is along with my cynicism I'm also really angry. I absolutely need to watch what comes out of my mouth, I also know that what I really want to say isn't attractive in the slightest. Also, talk to her like you seriously don't give a fuck about what gender she is. I actually do that. I talk to women as if they were men. Though that means that I don't …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/17 04:29 PM
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For the most part it's great writing and I was honestly angry reading it. I'm the proverbial nice guy that has lots of female friends, and always gets rejected and placed in the friendzone. You're absolutely right that like does not attract like. Women don't give a fucking damn about common interests in men. That shit doesn't matter. That's just how you become friends with women. Having a friendly conversation with a woman doesn't do shit and just increases your chance of being friendzoned. The …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/17 04:22 PM
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I go for girls pretty much in the same height range but they all turn me down. How would you describe his vibe or personality? Would you know if he always did well with women? I know I need to improve the overall vibe I'm giving, but how do I do that when I'm constantly striking out? I'm pretty sure women can tell that I'm unhappy and it turns them off. It's a negative feedback loop. If I started getting laid I'd be happier and then I'd start getting more women and so on.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/17 02:19 AM
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Squat, deadlift, bench press (also incline), standing overhead press, barbell bench press etc. I don't remember my diet then but now I'm watching what I eat. Lots more chicken breasts and veggies. I've definitely slimmed down and have more muscle definition. Because being short absolutely sucks. Women aren't attracted to short men. Celebrities aren't relevant. Short men have to make up for their height. Just being a normal guy isn't good enough if a man is short.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 10:29 PM
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That's what I've heard, but I gain muscle very slowly. A while ago I tried to get big and just got fat. Now I'm trying to cut down to 20% body fat. Even then, I'd just be a built short dude. I don't know if that would be enough to make up for my height.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 09:16 PM
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Looks. Yes it gets their attention no doubt Which is extremely helpful. I'd rather get some attention then be invisible. Your character (expressed through behavior), even if your confidence is faked, gets pussy wet. That's why fuckers here say fake it 'till you make it. How do you fake confidence?
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 07:54 PM
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What should a short guy do? At 5'5 no matter how much effort I put in, will never hit average looks.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/17 07:52 PM
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Especially when you're talking in the realm of daygame, and in terms of night game, nobody approaches sober. A lot of people overthink the hell out of pick up. That's the whole reason for alcohol. To stop overthinking the hell out of it.
/r/seduction10/07/17 06:31 PM
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Wow, this is really terrible advice to give to somebody who is depressed, has low confidence and hates himself.
/r/seduction10/07/17 06:24 PM
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Ignored by women. I don't really know how to do anything by myself.
/r/seduction09/07/17 04:08 PM
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Good luck. I'm going to go out alone in a few hours myself. Thankfully I just have a 10 minute walk.
/r/seduction09/07/17 03:22 AM
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How are you compensating for your height?
/r/TheRedPill09/07/17 01:18 AM
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I work out regularly and starting to get a decent body. I have a nice hair cut. I always make sure to look and smell good. Yet every girl I've approached has turned me down. I'm constantly being rejected by women I know who are single. I'm 5'5. Could I be considered average? So if I'm not average how far below average and what kind of women should I be shooting for?
/r/TheRedPill08/07/17 08:50 PM
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Exactly. I'm 5'5. I seriously doubt that I'm average simply because I'm short. Also I do absolutely horrible with women. I haven't even kissed a woman in almost two years yet I'm always being rejected. Seems like there's no fucking hope.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/17 08:45 PM
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That sounds like a lot of disrespect.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/17 08:41 PM
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Facepalm. Some of us can't do these things. And I quote. I'm willing to go extreme. Whatever it takes. Yeah sure thing dude. And why can't you take a dance class? Nothing in your post suggested that you can't manage that. Besides, I have no value to offer. What's the use? Have you thought about shaving your head and becoming a eunuch? It might suit your better.
/r/seduction08/07/17 05:59 AM
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To be perfectly honest, my mindset is "Women don't like me and will never give me a chance" and time after time that is proven true. That has been absolutely beaten into my 35 year old mind. It was last proven true again yesterday. How do I begin to change that?
/r/seduction07/07/17 07:20 PM
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In my opinion, humanizing women and treating the same as every one else is not the way to go about things. You need to treat women as sexual beings or else you won't flirt with them. And guess what, girls you don't flirt with and treat as if they are men, don't become interested in you.
/r/seduction07/07/17 06:24 PM
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Dude I know exactly what you're dealing with. It absolutely sucks. I get stuck just at the "where to meet girls" part of the equation. I see girls everywhere. But that doesn't really help. I could go to a bar. But then people are all talking to eachother. How to hack into that? At the gym are lots of girls. I can't just walk over and start talking to them. What in the hell would I have to say. If i can get those words out of my mouth in the first place. My number one suggestion for guys like you…
/r/seduction07/07/17 06:13 PM
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You must realize, most women don't want to go out with you simply because they don't know you well enough to appreciate the significant love and value that lies within you. But that's not your fault, and if she's not willing to devote the time to being with you, that's her problem, not yours. So if this happens to me over and over again with each woman I'm interested in , is it still her problem?
/r/seduction07/07/17 02:07 PM
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That's awesome. Sometimes I find it hard to explaining my love of psychology to people because there seems to be a fine line between using psychology to find a match and using psychology to manipulate someone's behaviour?! We're all manipulating people at the end of the day, aren't we? To get what we want? And the more I read about conversational psychology the more boring conversations become because I can predict their next reply XD Catch 22! Exactly! I'm currently reading Influence: The Psych…
/r/seduction06/07/17 03:10 PM
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But then I kept reading and attempted to look at it from a man's perspective, and realized a good 80% of the advice is pretty sound. It's not about controlling us women, it's about being confident in yourself and making decisions, which ultimately make us follow you, putting it in a very simplistic way. I like it when my boyfriend makes desicions and I don't have to think. It's not that I can't think, it's that I plan so much shit it's nice for him to take the lead upon occasion. Exactly. The re…
/r/seduction06/07/17 02:54 PM
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Yes, definitely. I had this amazing date once when a guy told me he had been reading up on the psychology of a date. Not just articles - genuine academic books. Throughout the date he would whisper funny things in my ear such as, "I'm touching your shoulder right now cause the book told me to.". He'd disagree with me on something and say, "Okay, I'm lying. I totally agree with you, but the book told me not to be agreeable." It was lighthearted. It was almost like he was making fun of himself but…
/r/seduction06/07/17 02:44 PM
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That's a very interesting opinion. So you think a man should share that he's trying to better himself and learning human psychology to better understand women? psychology of a female's maze of a mind For some reason I love that part. It's a woman saying that even she knows that the female mind is very complicated. However, the more I read the more I'm thinking 'wow they really don't know shit do they' hahahahaha Pretty much and it is a lot of guys who think they know how women work passing on th…
/r/seduction06/07/17 02:21 PM
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Buying pussy is a short term solution to a long term problem.
/r/askTRP05/07/17 05:55 PM
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Best option is therapy for that. It only works if you are open to it. I have seriously tried therapy for two years straight, two sessions a month. It did simply not work. What worked was having a girlfriend. I want to regain that happiness. Regardless, do you know you have any other ideas for channeling anger and bitterness. It has to be something that would not cause me to become too frustrated.
/r/askTRP05/07/17 05:54 PM
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I do wonder about that time to time. The only thing puzzles me is that low test is supposed to cause a lowered sex drive and that's absolutely not the case for me. If anything I think I'm higher than normal. Still I'll look into it. First I think I need to actually get a doctor. I haven't been to a doctor in over 5 years. Just never bothered to actually use my health insurance.
/r/askTRP05/07/17 05:49 PM
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We hear this shit all the time, and it always comes down to the person's insecurity over themselves. Women can smell that shit from a mile away. Probably. I'm trying to figure out why girls have chosen other guys over me. Guys that on paper should be a worse choice for a partner than me. So sure, women know that I'm not confident in myself and for some fucking reason that's enough to make them not give me a chance. You aren't angry at them. You're angry at yourself because you think you're inher…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:53 PM
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The only problem I see here is thinking that you need a woman, or that having one in your life is miraculously going to change your world into this ideal fantasy where you can suddenly start to move forward in your life. THIS is what you are doing wrong. I guarantee if you meet the girl of your dreams with this mindset then you'll fuck things up because you need her in your life so badly, before long she'll realize you're her little needy bitch instead of her rock, her oak. If you take some time…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:50 PM
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self-authoring program by Jordan Peterson Hmm, thanks for the suggestion. I found the main page. It does seem to have some benefits. I rarely drink. Mainly for the rare after work event or when I want to get loosened up before I go clubbing. No drugs.
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:40 PM
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You need to realize that there are no hard and fast rules for getting women. Every one is different. Yeah every woman is different, but there are certain masculine traits and techniques that have good success in attracting women. Only by exhibiting an outward confidence that tells others that you don't care what they think of you will you start to feel more at ease and be more approachable. That is something that I've recently been looking at. Every now and then I see those guys who always seem …
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:37 PM
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Weirdly none of my friendships have led to me dating anybody. For some reason I've never met the female friends of any of my friends, male or female. That said I should probably join some meetup groups or something that women go to.
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:24 PM
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as can swing dancing or something and that's with girls too so would be worth a shot. Heh, I've actually regularly went swing and salsa dancing. I took the classes in college and have been out dancing at the clubs many times. Yes the classes have gotten me more comfortable touching women and I would recommend it to men who aren't comfortable with that. Sadly I don't find myself in that many situations outside of dancing where it's appropriate to touch women. I really don't like cold approaching …
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:23 PM
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So you are bitter and angry and frustrated because you are living in the two places you have no control over, The past and the future. I'll agree to that. I believe it's said that depression is unhappiness with the past and anxiety is unhappiness with the future. If that's true I have both. I hate how my life has been and I'm very scared that it won't get better. So seize the day ( Carpe Diem ) that is all you really have. That's what I'm trying to do, but nothing good ever happens. I went out S…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:16 PM
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It was pretty hard to pick up my viola again but it's worth it. Get another guitar. Don't let the outside world determine your passions. Setbacks are a part of life. The hardest part is to start but life is about maintaining positive momentum in your actions. I'm considering getting another guitar. But I also remember that I didn't have that much fun with it. As childish as it sounds, I need fun and enjoyment in my life now. There aren't enough things in my life that I enjoy doing that don't cau…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 09:10 PM
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women want to treat it like a platonic conversation because flirtation puts them on the spot. That's a very interesting observation. So it's not as if women are misunderstanding my signals. They are doing it deliberately. attractive women almost always know they're attractive but they don't see you in a sexual light unless you portray yourself that way. I admit that I don't portray myself in a sexual light. Mainly because I don't know how to do it. Too many rejections by women before I even get …
/r/askTRP03/07/17 08:33 PM
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How did you build your confidence with women? That's the main thing I'm lacking.
/r/askTRP03/07/17 08:02 PM
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So it seems like he just throws on the "you're cute" part to be flirty. Without that it would be a platonic conversation. And there is a little bit of teasing involved. I have to admit that I never talk about a woman's looks. I've always read that hot girls know they are hot and it shouldn't be mentioned.
/r/askTRP03/07/17 06:07 PM
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And what's the best way for an aspiring salesman to get experience? Obliviously it's to keep trying. Though, I actually work in an outbound sales call center, though not as a sales person. Turnover here is super high, mainly because the job is fucking difficult. Unless somebody finds the trick that lets them start selling they are just wasting their time. Most people here do not find it. also, focus on your drive. IMO it seems that you have the right mentality, now you just need to do it, follow…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 06:03 PM
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Interesting advice. I actually have a bit of a musical background. In junior high I was forced to play saxophone and hated it. I don't know what the hell my mom was thinking. Then many years later I got a very inexpensive electric guitar and was starting to learn it. Stuff happened and I moved and put it in storage. Then my storage unit was broken into and the guitar was stolen. I really haven't had the motivation to buy another one. Bonus: If you haven't already, read No More Mr. Nice guy. Life…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 05:48 PM
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What are some things that you've learned from other guys that was helpful? I just see tall guys basically doing nothing other than smiling and the girls want them. One guy at my office has suggested going out and getting some beers and I haven't agreed to anything because he's a good 5 inches taller and better looking than I am. I can just imagine spending the whole night being ignored by all the girls that want him.
/r/askTRP03/07/17 05:39 PM
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Maybe your inner self isn't attractive. All the other stuff is attractive, but people don't actually like you I'm not going to argue against that. I know something is off with me. The trouble is finding out what. I know that women like me, but in the spread their legs way. Think of it this way. Think of a girl that you know who is hot, but you do not like her at all. Or maybe an average girl who you do not like at all. It's the same thing, just directed at you. The real issue is that those girls…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 05:37 PM
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Yes, and this is BAD. Very, very bad. True, but it's how the majority of men are. When the wife leaves them (as the majority will), what then? That's a very negative way of looking at things. Isn't one point of TRP to become an attractive man so your partner won't leave you for somebody else?
/r/askTRP03/07/17 05:16 PM
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as long as you're bogged down hating yourself you're not going to move forward in your life. I know this advice is going to piss you off as a thirty-something grown man, but you need to start small. and for what it's worth, I'm a forty-something divorced guy who had to start over with my life in shambles a few years ago. No, your advice isn't pissing me off at all. The self-hatred is absolutely holding me back. Also it seems that having to start over and rebuild your life gives you a good point …
/r/askTRP03/07/17 05:14 PM
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It won't stop until you start improving. You can only improve if you keep trying. I've been working on self-improvement for a few years. Pushed my way through college, read countless material on pick up, self-improvement and human psychology. I'm at the gym 3-4 days. And as I said in my post, I've actually taken PUA bootcamps. So one thing I can say, is that I am absolutely trying. Your biggest issue is your personality. It's true when they say personality goes a long way. You need to learn from…
/r/askTRP03/07/17 04:56 PM
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Women are NOT the cure for loneliness. Seriously. Women offer a temporary cure for horniness, nothing else. Complete bullshit. That sounds like something a misogynist would say. For many many men, their wives/girlfriend are the only person they talk to and receive support from. Yes, many, me included. Would you mind sharing? Read the sidebar, learn it all, accept it all, live your life accordingly. That's a lazy answer. Are there any articles you'd recommend that apply to his situation? It only …
/r/askTRP03/07/17 04:49 PM
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Fellow nerd checking in. I did it once, and it was the best 6 months of my life. I met her in a college salsa dance class. She was in a two year relationship when I met her. Somehow we just clicked and became friends. Eventually she started talking about how unhappy with her boyfriend she was. I was just my normal self, though probably more relaxed because I never thought I had a chance with her. Eventually she ends it with him and a week or two later we start dating. It was absolutely amazing. …
/r/askTRP03/07/17 04:40 PM
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So I just spent the past couple hours continually getting rejected by girls at a dance club. Know how many of them uses the "I have a boyfriend line?" Zero. If James was there he most likely would have got a ONS. Compare that to me who ended up dancing with one fat girl at the beginning of the night then completely being shunned from women for the rest of the night. Rejection fucking sucks if you don't have any success to mix it up.
/r/seduction02/07/17 08:26 AM
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I don't want to go into what my exact racial mix is, though I am white, and my Hispanic side is one step away form Spain. Everybody is very light skinned. There are other people from the same country that are dark skinned, most likely because they have African genes in them.
/r/seduction02/07/17 08:23 AM
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It really should not matter. Most chicks use the BF lie to make a quick exit, so you never really know. Secondly, the guy in the video is not a bad looking dude. If they reject him then anyone can get rejected. That's why I said earlier that the BF rejecting is different. Maybe a couple of girls are lying about the the BF or being engaged, but in most of those situations he's not actually being rejected. If he was getting rejected by girls that are single, that's completely different. I bet that…
/r/seduction01/07/17 11:50 PM
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There is a huge difference between getting rejected by women who are single vs. getting rejected by women who are in relationships. The most important difference is that getting rejected by a girl who is taken has absolutely nothing to do with you. To me, it's not even a rejection. Now getting rejected by girls who are single...
/r/seduction01/07/17 11:25 PM
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Oh I know that this emergency thing is real and it's caused her to leave work early a couple of times. Still she makes no effort to reschedule. I'm just tired of dropping it with every girl I'm interested in because she has a convenient excuse.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/17 04:45 PM
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What do you do if she is saying she can't go out because a family emergency is going on? In this case her grandmother is going through something. I didn't get any details but I can tell it's serious. I have no idea what to do. Regardless I can tell that her interest in me is pretty low. Though I'm pretty sure that if I can spend some time with her I can raise it.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/17 01:33 PM
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That's probably just the area you are in. Honestly it's really weird that both Asian men and women prefer white people where you are at. You should look for the Asian hangout areas and try to meet women there. I'm asking for advice about how I can improve my dating situation in general. Being completely realistic, you listed yourself as "I am at least a 7 to 8/10." Though odds are to a white woman, you're a 6 because of your race. Women are shallow as hell. This is coming from a guy who looks 10…
/r/seduction30/06/17 01:40 AM
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I seriously doubt that. Indian women aren't really desired by men of other races though I have seen a few really attractive women. In the vast majority of times I've seen an Indian woman, the guy she's with was also Indian.
/r/seduction30/06/17 01:35 AM
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And they are very light skinned Hispanic as well. One of my Aunts is 100% Hispanic and she looks completely white. My mom is blonde hair blue eyes.
/r/seduction30/06/17 01:33 AM
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Why not Zoidberg? Though yes, if you're half and half sure go with both. But I think you have better odds with the race that you look like. For reference I'm half white and half Hispanic, though absolutely nobody thinks that I'm anything but white. I pursue women of both ethnicity but I prefer white more. Probably because my mom is white.
/r/seduction29/06/17 09:53 PM
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It's always the same thing here and on the PUA forum. Asian and Indian men complaining how they can't get white girls. Newsflash people. Dating is easier if you stick with your race. White women aren't goddesses, they shit and bleed like all the rest.
/r/seduction29/06/17 09:32 PM
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Basically I am an Asian-American guy for the most part I am approaching and pursuing white girls who are 7's or above. There's your problem.
/r/seduction29/06/17 09:28 PM
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Thank God for some fucking honesty. The only reason any of us came to this sub is because of women. To desire women is natural if you are heterosexual. Yes there are other things to aim for in life other than women, but until one gets the women part of their life handled, the other things are not the focus.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/17 05:01 PM
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Lots of good tips. I agree with almost all of them except for "Stop worrying about girls not liking you back." The moment you stop worrying about the girl you like not liking you back is the same moment you become appealing to that girl and others That's just not the case at all. The most that will happen is that you will become invisible to her; a non-entity. You have to hook the girl first for her to actually care if you aren't giving her any attention. A man who doesn't care if girls like him…
/r/seduction14/06/17 04:54 PM
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I just listened to a podcast where Cialdini was a guest. It was about his newest book, Pre-Suasion. A lot of the conversation was very interesting. Unfortunately the topic did not mention women or relationships. I would say that not everything is engineered by default, but they can be. Right now my primary focus is on women, and I feel that fate is deciding what happens in my life despite my efforts. Living life in the conscious incompetence stage. I will look more into Caialdini's works.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/17 10:20 PM
1

I actually rarely ask favors from anyone, though I can see how the "hold my drink" situation can be engineered.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/17 09:08 PM
1

foot in the door technique Interesting. So how can this be applied to women?
/r/TheRedPill12/06/17 05:47 PM
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You haven't internalized that it's them that should be looking good to get you. Absolutely. I would be foolish to believe that "I am the prize nonsense." Maybe after I become rich and have a great body. Until then I'm putting in the work. I'm not stupid enough to believe that a high value girl is going to want me as I am now.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/17 01:06 AM
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Don't do it for them. Honestly, doing it for them is the only reason why I work out. I have no interest in getting stronger. I just want to look good so I can get pussy.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/17 10:09 PM
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Pretty much. It's a tall good looking guy who was already getting interest from girls. He gets back into lifting and gets more interest. Yay.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/17 03:36 PM
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Doesn't matter, by default a 6'5 guy is more attractive regardless of how much muscle you have.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/17 03:22 PM
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Hell I'm 5'5 and pretty much invisible to women. I'm starting to put on more muscle but the women haven't seemed to notice. I've still got a ways to go till my goal, but I don't like the fact that it's taking so long and the total lack of interest.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/17 03:22 PM
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If you want to be interesting, say something interesting. It's something else beyond that. Here's an often referenced passage regarding charisma Now, William Gladstone was a very clever and witty person. He was brilliant, obviously so, and he knew pretty much everything. Based on his wit and experience, he had what it took to win the election. What made the difference, however, was summed up by a woman who had dinner with both Disraeli and Gladstone a week before the election. The lady both men …
/r/TheRedPill01/06/17 09:40 PM
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I use the two interchangeably. Whichever it is, I'm painfully aware that I'm lacking it. I've read "The Charisma Myth" and it didn't really have what I was looking for. How would have "interesting hobbies" help? As for finding humor in situations, I'm absolutely a pessimist and only bad things seem to happen to me. Obviously that's not helping me be more charismatic.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/17 07:13 PM
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Good looks gets you in faster, but a good looking dweeb is still a dweeb.. only a woman is more confused when she realizes he's a dweeb. That won't be until after she slept with him.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/17 06:19 PM
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Be charming. It's extremely powerful. I really want to. As a 5'5 man, charm is the only thing that can save me. Unfortunately I have no idea how to be charming and material on it is very lacking.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/17 06:16 PM
1

This is absolutely ridiculous! if you were 5'9" you'd WISH to be 5'11". If you were 5'11" you would KILL to be 6'. I guarantee you that you would always say: That's not the case at all. All I really want is to be as tall as my dad, 5'10. That's straight up average height. If I was that height, I wouldn't have problems with women. My personality is enough at that height. Unfortunately it's not enough for being 5'5. Women are attracted to men who are average height. No one will deny that. Women do…
/r/seduction30/05/17 07:35 PM
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You say that short guys need to be "more direct" but that's horseshit. Everybody needs to be direct Tall good looking guys get hit on. They don't have to do anything. Stop looking for a secret short guy shortcut. It's the same. I'm not looking for a shortcut, I'm looking for the way that works.
/r/seduction30/05/17 07:25 PM
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Then you're not short. I'm 5'5, and that 4 inch difference between us drastically effects how people (men and women see us.) The game is absolutely not the same for us. As you said before girls generally do no like short men. That is not something you have deal with. Seriously how can you even say that the game is the same when women generally are not attracted to short men? Short men have to overcome that handicap right away. My height is something I obsess over because it has had a huge negati…
/r/seduction30/05/17 05:42 PM
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Before I continue this back and forth, how tall are you?
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:22 PM
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And also, you are admitting in this thread you don't get girls, so why are you giving advice?? Because I know what does not work. I'm 35 and have tried so much shit and it just doesn't work because of my height. The only thing I have not done is gone in super direct because I don't have the confidence to pull it off. And surprise dude, many many people read something and pass that off as advice. That's how life works.
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:08 PM
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What heights of women are you going for? If it doesn't bug you it won't bug her, if it bugs her, then she shouldn't be dating you anyway. The problem that I've experienced is that it does bother most women. For reference I'm 5'5 and I primarily go after women 5'1-5'5. You know how I get tall girls? I don't bother them about their height, they're already self-conscious about it. This is one thing I don't get about other short guys, bragging about getting tall women as if they were some sort of tr…
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:02 PM
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Absolutely not. Tips that work for a 5'11 guy will most likely not work for a guy that is 5'5. From my readings, short men have to go far more direct than normal height guys because do because women by default do not consider short men to be a sexual threat. Meaning a woman will almost always put the short men in the friend list unless the short guy makes his intentions very obvious.
/r/seduction30/05/17 03:43 PM
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As soon as it happens I'll tell you.
/r/seduction30/05/17 03:41 PM
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Not until after you've already fucked her. For now, show her, don't tell her.
/r/seduction26/05/17 07:41 PM
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Hah! I think you need form B for threesomes and gangbangs.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 04:09 PM
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Sexual consent form 185.29.203.11/joost/Seks/bronnen/Sexual_Consent_Form.pdf
/r/TheRedPill26/05/17 04:00 PM
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Very interesting. He is so over the top. At that level he just doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks of him.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 10:20 PM
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The problem is many guys have trouble doing this. Maybe you 've never had a problem showing intent, maybe it's easy for you. That's absolutely my problem. The main reason why I don't show intent is because I don't want to lose value in her eyes. Physically I'm not the most desirable man and don't want to show weakness. Would you have any tips on expressing a "genuine, confident desire for her"
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 08:29 PM
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How do you demonstrate strong sexual intent without being vulnerable about it? Especially so if you are not the stereotypical attractive man.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/17 06:01 PM
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Unfortunately no, I still have many things to work on. Though yes I am continuing to learn game. It's just frustrating seeing guys who have nothing going for them other than their looks and arrogance continue to get women.
/r/seduction24/05/17 02:41 PM
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Yet they still get the girl. I doubt they even care that they can't keep her when there is always a new girl around the corner. They probably don't even want to be in a relationship. There is a guy at my work and for lack of a better term in my jealous state has poisoned the girl I was interested in. Sure he makes a great first impression but anybody with half a brain can see that he's trash. Yet he's actually slept with a couple girls in the office. On paper I should be a much more desirable ma…
/r/seduction24/05/17 12:55 PM
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Working on the muscles. Could try black face. Will update later.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/17 09:41 PM
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Yup. And that guy went on to tell somebody in the office everything that girl did sexually to somebody else who then began to tell every one in the office. The blonde girl was completely humiliated, said she never wanted to talk to that guy again. Two weeks later and it's like nothing ever happened. Bitches be stupid.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/17 07:04 PM
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Seems accurate. That's why the cute blonde girl in the office would chose the black guy with big muscles who is in a dead end job and close to getting fired over me, the short guy making more money and on a great career path. Same company: Completely different positions
/r/TheRedPill23/05/17 05:49 PM
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It's amazing how often advice on both sides of the spectrum are given.
/r/seduction23/05/17 01:23 AM
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Awesome dude. You got it all covered.
/r/seduction19/05/17 07:35 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm currently rereading the book. I'm not sure when I stopped but I'm sure I'm in a different place now than then. I'll pay careful attention to the sections you mentioned. Getting things sexual is my number one sticking point. Thanks for the article recommendations. That's exactly what I was looking for. I've read a few articles as well at GirlsChase. I think he even had a couple written for short guys which pretty much requires a different type of game. Have you eve…
/r/seduction19/05/17 07:17 PM
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Hey gradcasanova, Do you have anything on starting from the absolute bottom? As in, I'm so bad at women that I haven't had a date since my college girlfriend dumped me four years ago? And before her I was doing horrible with women and the only reason I even dated her was that I was at the right place at the right time? Since then I've only been able to make platonic friendships with women and watch other guys sleep with the girls I want and those girls giving me false reasons why they wouldn't d…
/r/seduction19/05/17 06:07 PM
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Im 6ft2 and noticed when I was 175lbs Id get 5 to 10 glances at the mall and now at 205 I get like 1 or 2. Sucks to be you. At 5'5 guess how many glances I get in the mall? Lose the weight. Don't handicap your height advantage by being fat.
/r/seduction18/05/17 07:38 PM
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What does character mean in that context? have beliefs and values that you care about. Absolutely do. if you, who knows yourself more than anyone in the world, yourself cant find reasons why you are interesting Where did you get that idea from? I will admit that I don't have any charm. Though to me charm and charisma are pretty much the same thing, and I'm lacking in it.
/r/seduction18/05/17 03:02 AM
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Very good timing with this post. I was actually researching charisma for the past two days and finding the results unsatisfactory. Currently I'm in the "trying to get everyone to like me phase" though I'm realizing that nobody really gives a damn about me, I'm boring and simply put, women think I'm invisible. The Fucked Up I’m A Complete Loser Cycle.™ That's exactly where I'm at. I was enjoying your article but then it suddenly ended. "When you disagree, you say you disagree. When you think that…
/r/seduction18/05/17 02:13 AM
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I'll need to get a woman first. I'm just saying that you are saying that woman isn't the answer yet you list things that are supposed to help a man get a woman, and when he stops doing them, the worst thing that happens is he looses the woman.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/17 08:24 PM
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The worst thing – when you quit lifting, when you don’t fight for that promotion, when you stop shaving every day and when she inevitably dumps your ass – you will be alone again, with that huge pit in your heart. So then the whole point is to keep doing those things so that the woman doesn't leave you.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/17 08:01 PM
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I stop whining when I start winning.
/r/askTRP12/05/17 07:25 PM
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a majority of the girls he has fucked or dated have been 2-3 inches taller than him. What's up with these guys who focus on women taller than them? The majority of girls he's been with are 5'8 to 5'9? Is that some sort of accomplishment for him? I prefer girls 5'1 to 5'5. If your friend very outgoing and or confident?
/r/askTRP12/05/17 04:37 PM
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Do you see how negative you are towards yourself? Think about this .... truthfully read this statement a woman pity fucked you for a year? No no no no no. That's not what I meant. The first time we had sex was a pity fuck. Then she got hooked and couldn't get enough. Before that night I was on a year long dry spell.
/r/askTRP12/05/17 04:34 PM
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Constant rejection from women. Basically if you have two boys both who grow up to be 5'5 and for whatever reason girls like one boy in Jr. High and High School and don't like the other. As men the one that girls liked is going to have much higher confidence than the guy who never got dates. I'm the guy that girls never liked and instead was actually teased by them so when it comes to women I have very low confidence.
/r/askTRP12/05/17 04:25 PM
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A shit test? From who? God? I've never had a girl give me a height shit test. They just reject me for other reasons, if I ever get a reason which I rarely do. So owning my height means to no longer treat it as an insecurity. Then it's another way of saying to stop blaming my height.
/r/askTRP12/05/17 04:20 PM
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Then you die alone and unloved. Work on it guy no woman is going to pity fuck you Actually I had one woman pity fuck me and that ended up lasting a year. But no, I don't expect it to happen ever again. so you have to become a man worth fucking despite your height . Then that means I acknowledge that my height is a negative and work to overcome that. Which is something I'm doing now by being in the gym almost every day. Not giving a fuck means that you understand your height and you don't not all…
/r/askTRP12/05/17 04:16 PM
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I see what you mean. So the goal is to completely remove height from my thought process and to blame something else that I can improve. Then it's not about owning height, but completely denying its existence.
/r/askTRP12/05/17 03:21 PM
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He does this by not giving a fuck . And what does that mean? It makes as much sense as "Own your height." If you are physically 5'6 but have an attitude that is much larger / interesting than other men then your height becomes irrelevant . What if you are 5'6 but don't have a giant ego? Due to my life experiences, I have less confidence than the average man.
/r/askTRP12/05/17 03:15 PM
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You own something by not giving a fuck about it. Not by trying too hard to compensate. You've heard of short men having "Napoleon complex" where they try to act high and mighty because they're short. Yeah I've read lots of articles about height where the author (almost always a woman) gives a few examples of a short guy acting really creepy and trying to overcompensate for his height. There are similar stories across Reddit and forums about short guys acting creepy. This is the correct response.…
/r/askTRP12/05/17 03:10 PM
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Not everyone who has a "physical condition" is cocky.
/r/TheRedPill12/05/17 12:49 PM
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Everybody is different. My FWB didn't want to hug, kiss or really even touch until she had her drink then she would get in the mood.
/r/seduction26/04/17 09:59 PM
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TL;DR - Low self-esteem prevented me from fucking because I both didn't feel deserving of them and didn't think I was desired, and none of my behaviour was called out because halo effect turned 'simp' to 'sensitive/deep'. That's an interesting other side of the low self-esteem coin. My self-esteem is junk mainly because I'm short and not good looking so women never like me. But in the very rare event where I woman is interested I jump on it. For there record, I don't get negative feedback either…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 07:12 PM
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Great post but now I'm feeling like I have no idea what the hell I should be doing. To make things perfectly clear, I'm not physically attractive. I'm 35, white, 5'5 with average looks. On top of that I have shitty genetics where it takes me forever to build muscle. I've been working out seriously for a year and physical progress has been minimal. Strength has gone up but I don't give a damn about that. Harmless like a puppy is probably the best way to describe me. And of course I've always had …
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 06:00 PM
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Being good looking has held me back immensely. I've beta'd out to girls hard and they've still wanted to fuck me. LOL what?! You're still fucking them!
/r/TheRedPill25/04/17 05:45 PM
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First off, alcohol helps. So when you go there, bring a bottle of wine, champagne, some good beer etc. Odds are you will end up sitting on the couch together, don't be afraid to get in her space and sit next to her. Find opportunities to touch her arms, shoulders and legs. When you want to make a move, put your arm around her, look into her eyes and then go for the kiss.
/r/seduction25/04/17 05:19 PM
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Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine. Tell me Mr.reading comprehension, where in your original post did you say that they text you afterwords? Oh that's right, nowhere. Fuck, you even said, and I quote "I don't hear from them again." So piss off with your "you lack reading comprehension." You're the one who asked the question, don't be an asshole to the ones who try to answer it.
/r/seduction25/04/17 01:10 AM
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Eh, different strokes for different folks. I have never had a friendzone girl introduce me to anybody or meet anybody through them. They were all social dead ends. BTW, girls who are friends that never rejected you are different than friendzone girls.
/r/seduction24/04/17 03:02 PM
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A girl asking for your number is a polite blow off. It's basically her realizing that you are going to want her number so she asks for yours instead hoping that you won't ask her.
/r/seduction24/04/17 02:39 PM
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abundance mentality is realizing there is always more women you can get with Dont need to be getting laid to adopt that mindset If you think about it, you'll see that those two statements are contradictory. Lets say a man hasn't had sex in a year and not for a lack of trying. Does the mentality of, "there are always more women he can get," with make any sense whatsoever? Of course not, that's completely delusional. If there were always more women he can get with, then he wouldn't have been celib…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/17 03:54 AM
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Until about 15 years ago, the workplace was the number 1 place people met their spouses. Now dating sites and apps are #1, but work is still #2. And yet apps and dating sites are absolutely horrible for the average man. God forbid you aren't only average looking, or gasp short. IMO, I believe that work is a great place to meet people to date. Just be aware that if something does go wrong, you may have to keep interacting with that person.
/r/seduction21/04/17 06:20 PM
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How do you get to that point from zero? You just abundance from one moment to the next? All of the sudden you have no plates and then you have multiple girls on rotation? First you get one girl. Then you get one more. Then you get one more and now you are living a life of abundance. Having an abundance mentality when you aren't banging anybody is just delusion.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/17 12:38 PM

Uh no. Abundance mentality is when you have girls on rotation. It's as simple as that.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 11:03 PM
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You aren't having an abundance mentality. You're just busy.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 06:22 PM
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Then you are in agreement with max_peenor. Women love being impaled by cock but only from the men who do it right and don't turn her off. That's what he meant by their drives being "sexually responsive." Yes, some women in their neutral stage of not actively being banged are more horny than others. Though there are also women who don't even maturate yet become nymphos when they start having good sex. My ex was one such woman.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 02:58 AM
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If they are with a really needy guy and the sex isn't good at all she's rarely going to want it. Conversely if she's with a guy who constantly makes her cum, guess what, she always wants it.
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 01:38 AM
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The vast majority of women are what's called "sexually responsive." They actually don't want sex or even enjoy it until it is actually happening to them, and then they fucking love it. I've actually experienced that with both of the women that I've had on a regular basis. Each of them said that they've never had so much sex before they met me, and they had no idea that their drive was so high. That's when I realized that their sexdrives were directly controlled by the guy they were sleeping with…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 01:36 AM
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9 dates out of 25 girls is a 36% success ratio which pretty damn good. Heck I think that's far above average. I've asked out around 27 girls and had four first dates. That gives me an 15% ratio. Sadly I've only ever had one second date. As for dinner dates or whatever, do whatever you feel good, of course I'm not one to give any tips. Any idea of how many girls initially said yes? Good luck with the 4th date girl.
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:25 PM
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I'm white and 5'5. Trust me, there is no benefit to being white at this height.
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:16 PM
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How tall are you? I'm 5'5 and I have very little confidence because of my height. I'm also a bit soft though overall feel small and weak. Since I've been reading so much seduction material and also the Red Pill, I've got the motto of "just lift bro" stuck in my head and almost believe that getting muscles will fix my problems. Maybe it won't help me get girls, but maybe it will. At least it's something about my appearance that I can actually control.
/r/seduction18/04/17 04:49 PM
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Hah! A couple of years ago I was with my "parents" at a resort in Cabo San Lucas Mexico. I told them that I was going to go out for the night and explore the area. My stepmom told me to bring protection. Unfortunately I didn't get laid, but thought it was completely hilarious that she would suggest that.
/r/seduction18/04/17 04:43 PM
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How many girls did you ask out to get the nine dates? Did you get more numbers than that?
/r/seduction18/04/17 04:40 PM
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You're eating too many carbs!! I know that. Yet I've already given up eating bread and pasta. Yeah I think I need to try a more extreme diet.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 12:35 PM
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Good luck with losing that body fat. Don't be disappointed if you don't hit your goal in 90 days. I started at 5'5, 148.5 lbs @ 28.6% body fat. One year later I'm 142 @ 26%. I've been working out 3-4 days every week and trying to eat better. This shit is not easy.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 01:53 AM
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That's a great way of putting it. It's actually pretty eye opening.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 01:46 AM
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Actually this strikes me as beta behavior, not omega behavior. The beta lives in a shit cookie-cutter apt, eats lean cuisine, watches Netflix mostly for fun and has no opinions of his own. The same exact thing can be said about an alpha. The only difference between them is that the alpha knows how to attract women.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 01:42 AM
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Swing no, but salsa can though only on the basic level. Salsa can tell you how to hold a woman, and to do a basic turn or pass moves that you can do while dancing in a club. If the DJ plays anything in Spanish, "dale." That's your time to shine.
/r/seduction18/04/17 01:23 AM
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OK that post was a little unclear, I edited it. I do Salsa at salsa clubs and the local dance place. That same local place also has swing dancing. Both get very crowded.
/r/seduction17/04/17 07:12 PM
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I can Swing and salsa pretty well and do a variety of ballroom dances on a decent level. Nobody gives a damn.
/r/seduction17/04/17 05:03 PM
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Meeting women while doing your hobbies. Meeting women in your classes Meeting women at work Meeting women through your social circle Meeting women online
/r/seduction14/04/17 11:41 PM
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Simple! you talk to them. Joke a bit while dancing together (maybe joke about that guy who is "waiting to dance with her next"). Heh, if only it was that easy. Usually I never see the guy waiting, odds are there are five guys waiting for a turn to dance with her and the fastest one to her gets the dance. What should I say to get her off the dance floor to talk with me? Do not hit on her. Don't make any compliments. Just talk to her like she is a guy. Why not? I don't want her to think that I'm t…
/r/seduction14/04/17 07:10 PM
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Ah, I believe the word you are looking for is flex. Yeah, you should probably see a doctor if you need to flex your leg muscles to maintain an erection.
/r/askTRP14/04/17 06:33 PM
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Same exactly problem I'm having now. I keep seeing the book mentioned and I'm going through it. I'm 63% done and only a fraction of it applies to me. Yes I'm angry. Yes I feel like I need a woman's approval to be happy. Nothing else fits.
/r/seduction14/04/17 06:30 PM
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Not sure what does that have to do with it tho? You wanted to strengthen your thigh muscles...
/r/askTRP14/04/17 05:17 PM
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Are you working out? If not, you should be. For you your problem: Squats, leg press and barbell hip thrusts.
/r/askTRP14/04/17 04:45 PM
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How do you start dating/hooking up with girls you meet while taking lessons? I frequently go out Swing and Salsa dancing and I dance with a lot of girls, but the interaction always stops after one dance. 99% of the time another guy is waiting to dance with her next.
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:38 PM
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Cold approaching random girls on the street is not something beginners should be doing.
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:31 PM
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I hate how the mentality of everybody here is approach approach approach. Cold approaching random girls is not the only way to progress with women.
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:29 PM
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I've read it, and listened to the audio book which is Mark reading it to you. Didn't really find it that helpful. It's not really meant for guys who have no experience with women.
/r/seduction14/04/17 04:26 PM
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The advice "don't learn partner dancing with (keyword, btw) your plate/gf" is a rule of thumb, like most of the advice of trp, and it should be treated as such. This is the first time I've ever heard of it being mentioned in TRP. Are the more rules about partner dancing? There seems to be a complete lack of information about it.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 07:51 PM
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In my experience there is always too many leads in Salsa. Most times there were almost twice as many men as women and I was standing out of rotation about every other time. I've since pretty much given up on Salsa even though I like it more for that reason. Swing dancing it's usually pretty even with sometimes a few more men or women. Though most realistically, the thing that slows down my progress the most is my motivation. While I do enjoy dancing, my primary reason for doing it is to meet wom…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 06:07 PM
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The dancing just didn't work with our schedule, though I think I should have pushed harder as it was something we really enjoyed.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 06:01 PM
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Oh I absolutely know that girls learn dancing faster than guys do. Following is also a hell of a lot easier than leading. I just don't understand why it should be a reason to not have a plate/girlfriend as your steady dance partner. I actually met my ex girlfriend in a college salsa class and we took a few dance lessons together outside of the class. One of my biggest regrets is not going out dancing with her more often. Once we got together the dancing basically stopped for both of us. I've bee…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 05:46 PM
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I don't really get why you shouldn't do a partner dance with a girlfriend/plate. Yes there will be guys better than you on the floor, but that's life. There will always be guys better than you no matter what you. Your value to her should be much deeper than how good you are at dancing.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 04:34 PM
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Conversations are easy. What's hard is getting her to like me enough to go for a number or a date or whatever.
/r/seduction13/04/17 04:03 PM
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The hardest part is that it's usually two girls. An no, just talking to a girl and getting a conversation going isn't the problem. The problem is going for a number or trying to get a date etc.
/r/seduction13/04/17 04:02 PM
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Last night I went swing dancing. In the lesson there was one girl who was really cute that I danced with a couple of times. The girl I was interested in was there with a friend. I had absolutely no idea how to move anything forward with the cute girl. I just looked at the two girls, couldn't think of any way to proceed and just left. This situation happens over and over and over.
/r/seduction13/04/17 01:19 PM
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It's absolutely much easier to talk to a girl on the third time I've interacted with her versus the first. If this was true, you wouldn't be asking these questions. Ugh! No. I can talk to and make friends with these girls just fine. I can't date or sleep with them. If you ever decide to learn cold approaching, you will learn everyone has something in common. Learning to properly cold read is important for cold approaching. I tried. Last month I even took a daygame boot camp. Cold approaching is …
/r/seduction12/04/17 07:16 PM
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So if you want a girlfriend or a lay, you have to make sure your intentions are understood clearly Honestly I'm confused how do do that. I'll try to explain my way of thinking. Right now my main goal is to have a girlfriend. But in the mean time I'll settle with banging a few chicks. I frequently go Swing Dancing and lets say there is a girl I've seen a couple of times and I think she's really cute. What would my intention be? I guess my intention would be to get to know her better, but not as a…
/r/seduction12/04/17 05:24 PM
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Most people have fear when it comes to talking to strangers. They think talking to someone they know will be easier, but the truth is there isn't much difference. What? It's absolutely much easier to talk to a girl on the third time I've interacted with her versus the first. Even more so if it's somebody you see at least a couple of times a week. Simply because they are no longer a stranger and you have some commonality. The problem with warm approaching is what happens after intentions are know…
/r/seduction12/04/17 04:56 PM
1

Is there any trick to having a strong intent? Or what is a strong intent? When I make conversation with a pretty girl I'm not actually thinking about bending her over. Is that bad?
/r/seduction12/04/17 04:19 PM
1

I'm in the same boat. I've read tons of material and watched videos, but in the end I have no intention of cold approaching girls. There has to be another way that doesn't involve going up to random girls. What happened to meeting girls in class, at work, at the gym or anything else?
/r/seduction12/04/17 03:28 PM
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I think what really affects if working out is going to help you is your baseline. If you were 6 feet tall and not getting women then something is wrong with the way you present yourself and interact with women. Getting muscular would only slightly increase your attractiveness to women because you were already pretty damn attractive to them at 6 feet. No as a man who has the good fortune of being 5'5, I feel that getting built is the only hope I have in becoming physically attractive to women. An…
/r/seduction09/04/17 01:50 PM
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ISTJ male here. I also score ISTP sometimes. Being introverted is pretty much the worst thing that can happen to a guy in regards to women. Well other than being short.... How can this knowledge be beneficial?
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 10:14 PM
1

Fellow bitter ISTJ here too.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 10:12 PM
1

OK, so can this be applied to other people assuming that they do not already have a plate?
/r/TheRedPill06/04/17 09:29 PM
1

Be attractive? And don't be unattractive.
/r/seduction06/04/17 01:05 PM
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Sadly, some boot camps actually teach that as a method. Obviously it doesn't work if you aren't following rules 1 & 2.
/r/seduction06/04/17 12:28 AM
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Then there's been guys I met and didn't find them particularly attractive until I got to know them. I wish more girls did this. Unfortunately it is very rare. Source: 5'5 guy.
/r/seduction05/04/17 10:13 PM
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Yup. In his infinite wisdom God made me 5'5. When ever I go out I wear shoes that add three inches. Sadly I'm still short.
/r/askTRP04/04/17 10:30 PM
7

It's called The Apocalypse Opener. It's not a new concept.
/r/askTRP04/04/17 07:46 PM
1

The true abundance mentality is the way of mind you have when you are living a life of abundance. In regards to women, abundance mentality happens when you have at least two girls that you are sleeping with. If one girl decides to take away the sex, you don't care because you have another girl that is meeting your needs met. If you only have one girl, then you are not living in abundance because if she leaves, then you have nothing. Abundance mentality does not work if you aren't actually living…
/r/askTRP04/04/17 07:45 PM
1

Unless you put in the effort to be outgoing and make friends, life will not get better in the 30's and beyond. If anything, life can become more lonelier if all you do is go to work then home the repeat that cycle. I'm 35 and quiet and introverted. It feels that the best time of my life was in college. Even though I wasn't getting laid, I always had people to hang out with.
/r/askTRP31/03/17 06:04 PM
1

Social dancing is something that is mostly frustrating for me. I got into it a few years ago hoping it would help me meet women. It has not. If anything it's become a bit of tease where I get to interact and play with cute girls who have no interest in me. It's not as bad as giving myself blue balls, but it's close. As for what dance to focus on, I'd suggest taking a Salsa lesson and a Swing dance/Lindy Hop. Then pay attention to the gender ratios. For whatever reason at my local dance hall ther…
/r/seduction31/03/17 01:31 PM
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Thanks for the detailed reply! Talking about sex HAS to happen. That and touching. I agree 100%. And I realize that it's why most of my interactions with women "fail." You probably have a bunch of good girl friends who either straight up aren't into you physically (happens all the time, to everyone), or would have been down if they knew your intentions, from the start. The bold is very possible. I've had a handful of girls tell me that they had no idea I was into them and by the time I made a mo…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 06:05 PM
2

I do just about everything you wrote about but I never get laid. Over and over again I get friendzoned. The most recent time was just a few months ago. Though there is one thing I don't do. Talk about sex. Do you have any more examples of making a conversation sexual? How do you go from talking about her passions to sexy talk? In my head it goes something like this. "Oh wow I can definitely see why you care so much about the seals. They absolutely need to be protected. Do you know what I"m passi…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 04:10 PM
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[post-edit] I've got to give credit to my female friend for the hookup. She also encouraged us to kiss each other while we were at the bar talking. Absolutely. Your friend handed this girl to you on a silver platter. You owe her a drink. Congratulations on not screwing things up.
/r/seduction30/03/17 01:30 PM
3

The later. Simply because I'd be drinking and far less likely to be stuck in my head. As for during the day, I'm not even sure how I would meet people. Sure I'd say hi to people as I walk past but that's it.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 02:18 AM
5

OK sure. But I was asking how it fit introverts. I'm not outgoing and very introverted and I'm trying to figure out what method of game is best for me.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/17 12:34 AM
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Daygame usually fits introverts What!? How? I did a bit of daygame and it was immensely uncomfortable trying to get random girls to stop whatever they were doing and have a conversation with me.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 11:13 PM
1

Sex!?! Lol Ah nope. Not going to happen with her. Once a woman considers you to be a friend of hers, the potential for sex is gone. Essentially you got on the wrong ladder http://www.laddertheory.com/ladderconstruction.htm The first thing to notice here is that a woman has not one ,but two ladders. This is because in addition the normal ladder, a woman also has a friends ladder. The friends ladder is where a woman puts guys that she considers "just friends". More to the point where she puts guys…
/r/seduction29/03/17 10:26 PM
3

Help with what? Is there something you want to accomplish with her?
/r/seduction29/03/17 09:22 PM
1

Ugh, my whole problem with the "Be yourself" advice is that "myself" doesn't have a clue how to interact with women on any level beyond friendship.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 07:02 PM
1

Ah that clears things up. I was about to take some arm length shots since I don't have any decent photos of me now.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/17 04:00 AM
1

You put your best selfies Joking? I've been told to absolutely not use selfies.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 11:14 PM
1

My height doesn't help me in real life either. I honestly don't know what area to focus on to meet women. All I'm hearing is what things don't work. No online, no bars/clubs, no meeting girls at work. So what the heck do I do?
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 09:21 PM
1

OK, so how do you find a niche that attracts women? Me, I'm 35, white, 5'5, introverted and bit socially awkward. I work in IT. I have no attractive baseline skills. Needless to say women have been a bit out of my reach. My hobbies are playing video games, watching anime, computer stuff and salsa/swing dancing. The only reason I got into dancing was to meet women which honestly hasn't worked. I'm a very slow learner when it comes to dancing and I'll probably never get beyond decent at it. Over t…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 09:07 PM
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I don't believe that the issue is ignorance. It's actually darker than that. Many men who have trouble with women see women as almost being the enemy. Many men who who have trouble with women are also immensely jealous of how easily they see women getting into relationships, having sex etc. So the whole idea of a woman learning seduction just seems ridiculous. Then the realization comes that a woman who wants to learn the material is doing so because she wants to get the "alpha males" and not ju…
/r/seduction27/03/17 08:37 PM
1

You can have the fat gone in 3 months. Lift heavy. Do a few days of cardio a week. That's been my routine for about 9 months now. I'm getting stronger and people have noticed that I look bigger but the fat is taking forever to go away. A couple of months ago I realized that it's all about my diet. So for a while now I've been eating so much chicken and vegetables that I'm starting to get sick of it. Odds are I'm still eating too many bad meals and/or I don't do enough cardio.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 07:24 PM
2

Hah, it's so unusual to hear people talk about PE these days. It's hard to stay dedicated, especially when you aren't using it.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 06:22 PM
2

Without going to much into which city I live in there is a lot more single men here than single women. I'm not sure how many men are guy but I doubt it makes a difference. I actually live in one of the "hip" places of town and I'm within walking distance to many bars and a few night clubs. If I could actually get a girl to come out with me everything would be set. But no, no excuses. I know what I have to improve.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 06:07 PM
2

I'm 5'5, 143 lbs at around 25% body fat. I'm working on losing the fat but it's slow going. It's not easy losing fat and keeping the muscle. Thanks for the tips. I should be able to put them to use in a few months.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 06:02 PM
1

How do you get hired as a bouncer when you're 5'4?
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 05:48 PM
1

Why do you think that is? Are you working on an oil rig in Alaska or in some other location that skews heavily male? Southern California. Or are you just completely undesirable/lacking in game? If the latter, what are you doing to up your game? Simply put, I don't know how to make an attractive profile. I've gotten a total of five matches in about as many months. Upping my game, working on my body and I'm definitely staring to see a change. Better hair style. I still don't have any decent pictur…
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 05:22 PM
6

Yup, I've used Tinder for several months and was never able to get a girl to meetup.
/r/TheRedPill27/03/17 01:53 PM
7

I can't be a cuck if I never get a woman. Don't mind me, I'm just a depressed smart ass.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/17 10:14 PM
23

Expecting failure. And when I do take action, it fails 99% of the time. So it's a big dose of why bother.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/17 08:42 PM
2

Exactly. Competition wouldn't be so fierce if all single women were childfree, hot and at least decent to talk to. And lord help you if you live in a city where single men outnumber single women. Like me for example :(
/r/TheRedPill18/03/17 01:04 AM
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Did you check out my link? As a correction, there are 2.5 million women between 19 and 35 that are single, straight, not fat and don't have kids. At the baseline with no requirements checked, there are 124,753,070 women at >= 19 years old in the USA.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/17 09:50 PM
10

Your numbers are far exaggerated from what's actually out there. http://www.iwonderifyouareoutthere.com There are 2.5 million women in the entire USA that are under 35, single, not overweight, not gay and don't have kids.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/17 09:36 PM
2

You haven't had an orgasm in 220 days?
/r/seduction15/03/17 04:01 PM
3

Everything was strictly business and just cold. As soon as I finished and then went to the bathroom to pee when I got back she was already putting her clothes on. Never mind the fact that it was $300 for 5 minutes.
/r/seduction15/03/17 03:59 PM
2

Virtually every encounter I've had from that point on was better. It's just lame that is what I remember for my first.
/r/seduction15/03/17 03:58 PM
2

But it wasn't even in the workplace and she brought it up. So I essentially got dinged for asking a follow up question.
/r/askTRP14/03/17 10:26 PM
6

No, says a guy who actually lost his virginity to a hooker. It was one of the worst sexual experiences of my life.
/r/seduction14/03/17 08:18 PM
10

Losing your virginity to a hooker is a horrible idea.
/r/seduction14/03/17 05:09 PM
1

I have a manual dishwasher. In other words, me. If I go straight home from work it takes me between 50 to 70 minutes to do the 12 mile drive. Obviously that really sucks so I almost always go to the gym after work. By the time I'm done the drive usually takes between 30 to 40 min. After I'm done cooking and eating the last thing I want to do is clean.
/r/askTRP14/03/17 11:32 AM
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Yes I'm aware not having a life outside work is a problem. I'm not an outgoing person and I moved to this city for this job so I have no friends here. Work is pretty much my only social life. Thanks to shitty traffic around here, I'm not home till 7pm on weekdays. Weekends I'm pretty much doing nothing but cleaning.
/r/askTRP14/03/17 03:19 AM
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"I do not recall this situation." Hmm, I didn't even think about denying it. That's not my personality style. Still I wonder if it would have made things any different. Unfortunately, my other advice is to now be prepared to be black-listed at work. You might not even notice it, but you're not a liability to the company through HR. Maybe you'll miss out on promotions, opportunities, or top-tier clients. Or maybe not. Fortunately I don't have such a position where it will effect anything like tha…
/r/askTRP13/03/17 11:14 PM
1

I'm trying to figure out what she would gain from doing this. Getting me fired would do nothing but damage the company. As far as I know this woman and I had no problems at all. Nobody. Nobody is on your side. They're on their own fucking side. Unfortunately that seems to be the case, and for whatever reason other people want to bring you down. Also women in the workplace are Dramaticus Bitchicus. That's for sure.
/r/askTRP13/03/17 11:10 PM
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I don't think this is a TRP question and in fact, I see no question here. If it's not obvious from the general tone of my post, then I'll make it clear. How do I deal with this cunt at work that I have to frequently interact with who seems to be out to get me?
/r/askTRP13/03/17 10:59 PM
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Be careful about shitting where you eat. That's debatable but not the point of this post. Also, getting so drunk you have a difficult time recalling what exactly you said isn't something you should do when you're not at your own home. Even if I was stone cold sober I still probably wouldn't remember my exact words, if I was talking in the present or past tense. My point of bringing up that I was drinking was that the other woman gave me absolutely no slack and still thought it would be a good id…
/r/askTRP13/03/17 10:36 PM
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Those techniques don't work unless you're vibing with a girl when you do them. Negging a girl who doesn't feel rapport with you doesn't work but negging is powerful if she is in rapport with you. Do you have any other techniques for increasing or causing sexual tension? That is one of the weakest areas I have with women. What would you say is the most gradual and natural way to bring sex into a conversation?
/r/seduction13/03/17 09:15 PM
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The sexual tension section doesn't make any sense. All you've really talked about is what doesn't work. Are there other ways to start talking about sex besides the question game?
/r/seduction13/03/17 08:45 PM

You don't realize it, but it means exactly that. Comments like this show up all the time on seddit, and they show way more about how you think about women than you are aware. And it's at the key of why things aren't working for you. I'm aware that comments like that show up all the time and there is always some guy who said exactly what you did, "Probably the bad fucking attitude. Would you date someone with an attitude like that?" Are you aware that guys like me are venting on anonymous discuss…
/r/seduction12/03/17 10:27 PM
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I don't bother with classmates or co-workers until I see strong interest, flirting and sexual innuendo. I never get that kind of reaction from girls. So either I can wait for the signals that will most likely never come, or I just go for it with any girl who seems nice. Though I guess I can start with having girls at work eat with me on break or lunch just to see if anything is possible. If they say no and don't offer an alternative, I don't bother looking at them in that light again, we're just…
/r/seduction12/03/17 10:00 PM
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Oh I'm absolutely going to admit that I'm very bitter when it comes to women. I'm 35 and I've had one girlfriend, and that relationship lasted six months then she disappeared. I can count the number of first dates I've had on one hand. I've gotten far more numbers (not from cold approaches) which shows that I'm able to make some sort of friendly connection with girls but there is nothing sexual. I have very little empathy for women simply because dating is so much easier for them regardless of t…
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:32 PM

That doesn't mean they enjoy it. Not my problem. Women are privileged enough as it is. They can deal with guys asking them out in non creepy or harassing ways. Calling someone a lying bitch for trying to let you down easy is not an example of taking rejection well. Sigh. Do you really think I said that to her face or anyone who actually knows her? I always maintain a good attitude out in public. You actually confronted her about this? Sounds like a woman's worst "I got asked out at work" nightma…
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:48 AM

Honestly although it sucks, she probably just wasn't interested. I know that's what it was, and I wish she said that instead of lying to me. And then she got caught in her lie. She actually had the nerve to call him a jerk and a bad guy etc because he did the same exact thing to her that she did to me. "Working on myself" is a frustrating topic for me. I've been working on myself for years and haven't gotten any results. It feels like there is just a whole section on attraction that I haven't fo…
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:37 AM

Probably the bad fucking attitude. Would you date someone with an attitude like that? Do you really think I show this attitude to people I interact with? Comments like yours are so asinine. Just because somebody is venting online doesn't mean they actually carry around a bad attitude during the day.
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:29 AM

Step 1: Ask out girl who isn't interested in you, putting her in an awkward situation because you work together Girls are used to this. Still I try to make it as non-awkward as possible. I also stay completely pleasant with them at all times as I'm used to being rejected. Step 2: She lets you down easy with a white lie to keep things as not-awkward as she possibly can She just should have said that she's not attracted to me. Instead of doing a white lie that she got caught in and then got mad sh…
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:27 AM
2

God this is something that frustrates me so much. I'm 35 and yet my sex drive is still insanely high. It feels like I'm just going to waste instead of being Saint Dick giving women all the orgasms they can handle. I've only had two regular sexual partners and even though I was in my 30's both of them told me that I was the best they've ever had, and that they've never had so much regular sex. One thing I have figured out is that a woman's sex drive can be reactionary to a man's. If his drive is …
/r/seduction12/03/17 06:06 AM
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Thanks for the tips. At this point I think I'm beyond the self-improvement stage. I've already read Models and I also listened to it on audio book. I didn't find it to be that helpful. Yes it identified some faults I have, but didn't really provide any solutions. I have met many women and made many female friends, more than I would care to remember. In the end none of them were ever attracted to me. It's painfully obvious that something is wrong with the way I interact with women. But I don't kn…
/r/seduction12/03/17 05:53 AM

Sexual person not sex offender :P
/r/seduction12/03/17 05:32 AM
3

I've read through the entire thread. Nobody has provided any tips on how to be more charismatic.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 09:29 PM
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Dude, didn't you know that lifting fixes everything? If you are having problems making friends, just lift. Guys will be impressed by your muscles and offer to take you out for drinks. (Obvious sarcasm)
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 09:24 PM
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Hah, I'm turning 36 in a few months and my sex drive hasn't dwindled at all. Though for all intents and purposes, I'm a beta and I rarely ever get laid.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/17 10:25 PM
1

Dude, there are no advantages to being short when it comes to women.
/r/seduction25/02/17 03:43 AM
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Are you introverted or quiet? Asperger's? For whatever reason it seems that you aren't able to make connections with people. So you are correct that being tall isn't the magic bullet, if there is something off with your personality. BTW I'm trying to say that in the least offensive way possible. I'm introverted myself and have trouble making real friends. Though oddly I make friends with girls really easily. If I wanted to, which I don't, I could spend every weekend hanging out with girls in a c…
/r/seduction24/02/17 04:41 PM
1

many short girls would prefer guys in their own height range rather than significantly taller than them. At 5'5 I've seen the opposite. Most short girls only date really tall guys. Either the girls are really insecure about their height and want "big man" to be with them. Or they refuse to date short guys because they don't want short kids.
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:39 PM
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I'm about at the top of the ideal range at 6' 3" and basically invisible to women Have you tried bending your knees? Dude if you are that tall and struggle with women then there has to be one or more things that you are missing or doing very wrong.
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:37 PM
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LOL try convincing a girl to date you over a 6' guy because you have better balance and agility.
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:35 PM
1

Not true. Introverts are better then extroverts for pickup because its easier to make a one-on-one connections with a single person. That would be really cool if that was true but I never heard anything like that before. Being introverted is probably the worst thing that can happen to a guy; other than being short :(
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:16 PM
10

Natural selection, by Tinder and OK Cupid....
/r/TheRedPill21/02/17 02:06 PM
1

Most people would call me short, at 5' 8 Well I wouldn't. Sure you're one or two inches shorter than average, but you're still three inches taller than I am.
/r/seduction21/02/17 02:05 PM
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Holy crap that fat suit pickup video. Shit, I don't know what to think. The denialist in me wants to think that everything was staged and the girls were actors, but is there a chance that it's actually real?
/r/seduction20/02/17 09:19 PM
8

Remove the beta validators, and the market would tank Unfortunately that is not the direction that society is going.
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 09:01 PM
1

Same. I'm an introverted guy and generally quiet in all group situations. Naturally this isn't the right personality type for pick up.
/r/seduction20/02/17 06:09 PM
5

I'd love to hear this story too. From what I've seen, most of the short guys who do really well with women somehow always have done well. I never see stories of short guys becoming good.
/r/seduction20/02/17 06:07 PM
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Some key takeaways that stood out to me. The attention of random strangers offering sex to her (even if this is her imagined state) is still attention, and while not as validating as the genuine sexual interests of a guy she perceives as Alpha, it’s still contributing to her overall sense of self. The quantity of attention skews the perception of her own desirability. Women rarely complain about the attentions of ‘friend zoned’ Beta orbiters – even when they know these men are playing what they …
/r/TheRedPill20/02/17 05:54 PM
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The advice sounds good in theory, but here's why it fails for me. You need to buckle down and find out what it is you don't like about yourself. The number one thing that I don't like about myself is that women don't like me. The second major thing that I don't like about myself is that I'm 5'5. Of course the main reason why I don't like my height is that women in general aren't attracted to short men. What it all comes down to is that I can't love myself till women love me first. I need their a…
/r/seduction19/02/17 05:13 PM
3

"Just be confident" is girl advice. Meaning it's the dating advice that girls give and it's completely worthless.
/r/seduction19/02/17 05:01 PM
1

I've never tried cable curls. I wouldn't have a clue where to start. Nothing is as simple as grabbing a dumbbell and lifting it. What kind of rows were you doing? I've done chin ups a few times too. I should mix them in more.
/r/askTRP15/02/17 11:00 PM
1

r/Fitness doesn't like to talk about working out to attract women. Odds are if I made this same post there it would be massively downvoted and there wouldn't be any good posts. TRP recommends lifting as the first thing to do in a man's journey to be more attractive. I got a few really good replies which I can definitely use. Hopefully other guys can too. A Lamborghini/Ferrari (whatever you prefer) isn't a great car because it looks good. It looks good because it's designed and built well from th…
/r/askTRP15/02/17 10:57 PM
1

Is one form of cardio recommend over the other? Right now my cardio routine is ~50 minutes on the bike or elliptical at a brisk pace while I'm watching something on my tablet. I'm going hard enough to be soaked in sweat. I just started swimming and it kicks my ass. Even at a moderate pace I'm done after 20 minutes. Lowering my body fat is a major goal. Though at this point I don't know if I should get their by losing weight or gaining muscle. Right now I'm 5'5, 144 lbs and around ~20% BF (accord…
/r/askTRP15/02/17 08:35 PM
1

I actually looked over Strong Lifts a while ago and from what I've read it's meant to build strength and not mass. That's just not my goal.
/r/askTRP15/02/17 08:28 PM
1

Great. Thanks for the details. I'm going to modify my routine.
/r/askTRP15/02/17 08:24 PM
1

LOL! Lets just say I'm looking to attract her before she blows me. I never thought about doing shoulder raises. Is that something like a Front Dumbbell Raise What are some good back exercises?
/r/askTRP15/02/17 07:10 PM
1

Abs really aren't a concern of mine now. I don't walk around with my shirt off. That said, I know it's important to have a good diet.
/r/askTRP15/02/17 07:05 PM
1

Or how about a Jew in 1939 Germany?! Give me a break with the ridiculous example that has nothing to do with the subject.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 06:55 PM
12

Online dating and especially apps like Tinder is one of the worst things to normal guys. Throw in the notion that slut shaming is somehow wrong now, and things get really bad for most guys. This is probably the worst point in time to be a non 10% man.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 05:41 PM
1

At this point it's definitely about getting laid. As it so happens Lindy Hop is tonight.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 02:09 PM
3

Anyone have any insight on the best types of locations where said single girls tend to flock? I read that as "...where sad single girls."
/r/seduction15/02/17 12:02 AM
1

My main problem with taking a girl on a date with a lesson and rotating, is that odds are you'll only dance with her one time during that lesson. It pretty much defeats the whole purpose of taking her to the lesson.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/17 12:00 AM
1

I'm talking about the lesson and dancing afterwords. For example a club my have an hour lesson and then social dancing for the rest of the night. I believe it's a good idea to take her to both. Especially if she has no idea how to dance.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 11:52 PM
1

Well, you don't necessarily get to fuck your dance partner. You don't? I can't imagine having a regular dance partner and not sleeping with her. You do not need a dedicated dance partner for both swing and salsa. It's not needed, but it will make things quicker. The main problem I have with dancing on my own is the days when there are too many men and I frequently end up having to learn a new move without a partner. Some days I'm alone every other rotation, needless to say I don't learn anything…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 11:41 PM
2

volume of stage 5 clingers drastically increases the week of V Day, and especially tonight Wouldn't that be a good thing? Should be easy sex right? I'd worry about the after effects later.
/r/seduction14/02/17 09:48 PM
2

I will. Not going to expect anything just curious if any one has tried it.
/r/seduction14/02/17 09:46 PM
5

It's a red flag is it when a girl is into dancing i.e taking lessons, competition etc. Because of the same reasons OP gave; the gender imbalance, you know she's getting tingles being held and grabbed by other guys. Of course she will hamster to you "it's just a sport", but there is without a doubt an implied sexual dynamic at play and an environment where she is getting validation and intimate physical contact with many single guys that are all trying to fuck her. What if she's going dancing bec…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 09:44 PM
1

Yes and no. As long as the guy knows the basics and a few turns he can take a girl out dancing. There is no need to be a pro or have three years experience.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 09:39 PM
4

Never bring any plate or gf to learn lessons with I'd actually disagree with that. Dance lessons can be a great thing to do with a girl on a date. Though there are a couple of caveats. Do not rotate. Depending on the number of people present, there is a good chance you will not dance with her again. Neither of you should dance with other people. Do the lesson without rotating, dance with her for a couple of songs. Grab a drink and talk then dance some more. Leave before you get tired. Don't let …
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 06:52 PM
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End Great article but what dance to chose Next part, I will discuss which dance to choose. Oh. I live next to an event hall place that has Lindy Hop on Wednesdays and Salsa on Sundays. Both nights are packed. Swing night seems to have a better ratio of women to men. Salsa is a sausage fest. I've been dancing irregularly for a couple of years but honestly I'm a slow learner. I'd probably have more fun and learn quicker if I had a regular dance partner. But if I did, then I wouldn't have a need to…
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 06:47 PM
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You're hotter than a Phoenix sidewalk in the middle of July.
/r/seduction10/02/17 08:51 PM
1

No, I'm talking about an actual island and dumping them there with no government assistance. Prisons cost money to run.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/17 05:33 PM
3

drugs won't help snazzy. Any reason why not? All I need is something to lighten my mood and stop believing that no woman will ever want me. I got really drunk last night then walked to a bar with a dance floor, and I ended up not talking to anybody as not a single girl seemed to even look at me.
/r/seduction05/02/17 05:43 PM
21

I'm starting to realize that engaging in political discussions doesn't provide me any benefit. I receive no joy in educating others and it merely becomes nothing more than a waste of my time. That time and energy is much better suited to working on myself. To me politics is a distraction and one that has become more prevalent with the election of Trump. It was becoming frustrating reading TRP and becoming drawn into that.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/17 05:38 PM
3

Sadly it hasn't happened for me yet. I have very deep rooted insecurities, mainly about being 5'5. I'm 35 and with constant disappointment I almost feel like it's not worth trying any more. Obviously with that attitude nothing will ever change for me. For some reason getting drunk doesn't lower my inhibitions and I'm still too scared to approach anybody. What happened to liquid confidence? I'm seriously considering looking into taking some drugs just so my mind will shut the fuck up and I'll los…
/r/seduction05/02/17 05:58 AM
1

Awesome. That's great news.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/17 06:11 PM
7

Red Right Hey, now you have a place to scream your hate of liberals.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/17 04:19 PM
8

On that note. I'm a white American male and I have absolutley no interest in football. I'm not going to watch the game tomorrow.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/17 04:16 PM
15

I wouldn't be caught dead voting for a Republican and I want to fuck lots of women. Did I just blow your mind?
/r/TheRedPill04/02/17 04:13 PM
1

You can be pro-gay, pro-personal freedoms, pro-choice, pro-drugs, and still not want immigrants that won't assimilate though. Hey that's me. I'm also against giving any support to the mentally ill homeless. I think they should all be rounded up and sent to an island.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/17 04:07 PM
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As somebody who hates just about everything about the right I absolutely cannot stand TRP's political leanings. I'm glad that this should be an end or at least minimize the political talk on TRP and instead can focus on what the majority of us signed up for. To get more pussy. Yes the name "RedPillRight" screams of bias and it's something I wouldn't want to be associated with.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/17 04:00 PM
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Does this mean an end to all political talk on TRP? Please say yes. My primary interest in coming to TRP is to be a better man and to learn more about women. I have no freaking interest in reading things about Trump or liberals etc here.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/17 03:53 PM
3

Where is the short acceptance movement? Both women and men judge men for being short and it's not something a short guy has any control over. In before "Just lift bra"
/r/TheRedPill02/02/17 01:41 PM
1

If you were then you wouldn't be making this thread.
/r/seduction21/01/17 01:42 AM
2

You're probably not good looking enough.
/r/seduction20/01/17 11:55 PM
1

Thanks. That's what I expected.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/17 11:08 PM
1

Thanks. At least I'm on the right track. I just got back from the gym and I feel like ugh. "Curls for the girls" as they say. I got a haircut last weekend and I recently went shopping and got a wardrobe upgrade. All I really need is the right circumstances to get pictures of me. My goal is to hit 15%. If my scale is to be trusted, I was at 155 @ 25% this time last year and now I'm at 144 @ 20%. I'm 5'5.
/r/askTRP20/01/17 02:46 AM
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That photo only gives reasons to swipe left. Remove it Remove it from what? I never said I'm using that on Tinder. That pic is far too low quality. I just posted it to give an impression of what body type I have.
/r/askTRP20/01/17 02:38 AM
1

How tall are you? As long as you aren't like 5'5 it shouldn't be a massive factor. Cough cough, I'm 5'5... I have a pic of me in a different post. My scale says I'm at 20% but I'm at that awkward phase where I want to bulk up but have a gut. I just stared a high protein low carb diet so that should help kick things into gear. Back to height, being tall is ideal and it automatically gives you massive points with most women. I'm short which loses points with most women.
/r/askTRP20/01/17 02:36 AM
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The reason that I ignored your physique is the same reason I ignored your height; it's not something I can do anything about in the next couple of months. I'm looking for tips that can make a good profile now or in the near future. Yes I'm working out, but it will be a while till I get a real good body. Lastly, a tall guy with an above average body isn't playing with the same rules I am. Our circumstances are so different that I almost instinctively disregard anything you'd say as they wouldn't …
/r/askTRP20/01/17 12:04 AM
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Ignoring the part where you describe yourself as a very tall guy with a good body... Thanks for the detailed description of photos. You've listed a few that can be taken in the very near future. All my bio says is my height and neighborhood. Since you're 6'3 you are getting major points for that. As a very short guy there is no fucking way I can list my height so I need to put something in my bio that will give me points.
/r/askTRP19/01/17 10:50 PM
1

I've heard mixed opinions about having pictures with women. Currently I don't have pictures of me with attractive women but I do have a couple attractive coworkers who may be willing to take a picture with me. I do have a good "adventure" pic but I don't think it's good enough for a main pic. Assuming one doesn't have any good pictures on hand what are suggestions for something one can quickly stage in the near future? OK, so I also need to get a decent shirtless pic but something creative. That…
/r/askTRP19/01/17 10:42 PM
1

The profile is where men screw up I fully agree. Nothing matters more than the profile. My now inactive profile is junk hence I never got any matches. What are attractive pictures? Side note: As a 5'5 guy there is no freaking way I'm going to say anything about my height.
/r/askTRP19/01/17 06:48 PM
1

Nice guide. How do you get so many matches? What is your profile like? What pictures do you have? Do you consider yourself to be good looking?
/r/TheRedPill19/01/17 02:13 PM
1

EVERYWHERE you see cute girls. Walmart, the gas station, shopping centers, the mall....walk up into a nail salon if you see a cutie and tell her you think she looks amazing infront of all her co workers. Where doesn't really matter. If you grow the balls for it, there are so many opportunities everywhere. Approach anxiety is the dream killer though, it is just something you have to get over. I actually don't see cute girls that often in my daily life. Mainly because I don't go out that much. M-F…
/r/seduction18/01/17 10:42 PM
1

If you're ethnic its even less of a problem because some races are naturally shorter. Unfortunately I'm white. So the average white guy is expected to be 6' tall. If I was this tall and ethnic I'd probably have a much easier time as I'd just go after women of the same ethnicity without much trouble. Sadly no women want a short white guy. I'm considering getting professional photos taken for Tinder and OLD, just not sure if I should bother with it.
/r/seduction18/01/17 05:53 PM
1

Anything outside that can lead to some success will cause an increase in confidence. It's a positive feedback loop.
/r/seduction18/01/17 04:48 PM
1

Thanks for taking the time to reply. As a short guy, the only problem you short guys have is you are so fucking worried about it. It is the insecurity that is hurting you, not your physical height. Actually my height doesn't bother me that much. The only time I think about it is when I'm trying to attract women. Once I have a woman I don't care about how tall I am. Unfortunately women care about height a lot more than I do so I need to find out what things will be in my favor. Interesting how yo…
/r/seduction18/01/17 03:46 AM
2

This is something I've been thinking about as well. Inner game can only take you so far if you aren't actually succeeding with women. The whole "I'm the prize mentality" is simply delusion if you aren't getting laid. Right now I'm working out, reading lots of material, I got a style upgrade. But it hasn't translated to success with women. So something is still missing.
/r/seduction18/01/17 12:50 AM
2

Were you still in the car when you tried to kiss her? What was the car trip about?
/r/seduction18/01/17 12:40 AM
2

Anyone ever telling you 5'5 is not attractive is merely shit testing your reality That sounds great but in affect it doesn't change anything. What's the point in believing that 5'5 is the ideal male height while women are not interested in me because I'm short? It's very hard to maintain a reality that I'm attractive when I'm not getting laid.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/17 05:04 PM
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Awesome! I was there were more girls like who prefer short guys. All I keep running into are women who refuse to date short guys or they may date a short guy if she's really attracted to another aspect of him.
/r/seduction14/01/17 05:51 PM
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Whatever excuse you have about women being uninterested is just an excuse. Countless men with your "handicap" (and worse) enjoy satisfying love lives. It doesn't mean that they haven't struggled. I'm 5'5 and white. It's been well documented that women strongly prefer tall men and are less attracted to short men. The reason I list my race is that white men are expected to be tall. No I'm not saying that short men aren't able to enjoy a satisfying love life, but that it's extremely difficult to ac…
/r/seduction14/01/17 01:31 PM
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Great post. Basically it comes down to one phrase. "Never relax" Once you get the girl you can't be lazy and hope she'll stick around. It doesn't work like that.
/r/TheRedPill12/01/17 05:35 PM
1

How did you get two girls to come to your place on NYE? At your work your friends came in and brought girls with them, and the girls started flirting with you. Did your friends bring the girls to introduce them to you?
/r/seduction12/01/17 04:48 PM
2

You aren't lifting enough. (sarcasm)
/r/TheRedPill11/01/17 11:47 PM
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Show him your boobs.
/r/seduction11/01/17 06:47 PM
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Yes I'm short, 5'5. His example makes no sense because being short is a significant handicap and it's absolutely not my fault. Just look at his post again. Aside from short, he listed things that men blame for their failures but are able to change with enough effort. Being this short makes me less physically attractive to women and I will never be to fix it. All I can do is become attractive in other areas and hope that it's enough to cancel out being short. I just can't stop being short.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/17 02:04 PM
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Here is a different article that clears up some details http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driving-driving-mum-who-left-9557033 A drink-driving mum who left her ex-boyfriend with brain damage after mowing him down in a "jousting" game grinned as she was spared jail. Katie Lomas, 20, ran over 24-year Dean Heaney in a friend's car at up to 40mph as he wielded a wooden pole in a reckless 4am game of chicken that went tragically wrong. She swerved at the last minute to avoid Mr Heaney, who was sta…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/17 01:57 PM
1

TRP, don't argue on social media with feminists and liberals What if you're a liberal yourself? Is it OK then? I am allowed to argue with conservatives?
/r/TheRedPill09/01/17 01:49 PM
1

You see where it says Hot New Rising etc? Click on Top.
/r/seduction05/01/17 11:43 PM
1

Very well written guide. Do you have some more tips on writing a good profile and what types of pictures to include? I had used Tinder for a year off and on and just got absolutely nothing from it. Most likely my profile was junk.
/r/seduction05/01/17 04:18 PM
1

I've been single for three years. Yes dating women I'm not attracted to could have broken that dry spell. But I can't even imagine dating somebody I have no attraction to, and my standards for attraction aren't even that high!
/r/seduction02/01/17 12:51 AM
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I'm a normal looking white guy. I often get called good looking by women though nothing happens of it. The last woman who turned me down is short 5'2, cute but overweight. I'd put her at a 5/10. She just got a boyfriend who is roughly a foot taller than her. That's what I have to compete with.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/17 12:44 AM
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Fat > not your fault, diets are hard Virgin > not your fault, you're too short etc etc Shit job > not your fault, you didn't go to college One of those is not like the other. Hint: It's the one that people can't change.
/r/TheRedPill02/01/17 12:38 AM
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And on January 1 2016, I made it a commitment to fix this side of my life up. By January 7 I lost my virginity to a night club ONS. Hold up wait a minute! You can't make any serious changes in seven days. You got lucky. And then it seems like you got a significant confidence boost from that encounter. Am I correct? Like you were, I'm a short guy 5'5, who doesn't have any success with women, had a terrible past with them etc. I've been seriously working out for six months, got new clothes, improv…
/r/TheRedPill01/01/17 04:30 PM
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He/I is not trying to take anything from the girl or give anything. If you have to put a label on what the woman "gets" out of the interaction it's an "opportunity" to have sex with or date a new guy. The whole point of game is to convince/trick the girl that you are more desirable than the multitude of men she interacts with.
/r/seduction30/12/16 11:31 PM
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This is the typical "new age" answer but it's really a whole load of crap. He's trying to meet women to date and/or hookup with. There is no "value" to give. Of course he feels bad because he was turned down. That's completely natural.
/r/seduction30/12/16 10:42 PM
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Hah man I'm jealous. I'm an introvert when I'm sober and I'm an introvert when I'm buzzed/drunk. I still drag my ass to bars and end up disappointed walking home alone. I do this over and over again for reasons I don't know. Tomorrow night I'm going to drag myself out again mostly out of obligation. My motto for these things in life is "Expect nothing, then you won't be disappointed."
/r/seduction30/12/16 10:39 PM
1

I have a few attractive coworkers than I'm friendly with. I've been trying to get them to go out with me as friends for the purpose of social proof but it's been harder than I anticipated. These women are in relationships so they know I'm not interested. I'm not sure where else I could meet attractive women that aren't for dating.
/r/seduction29/12/16 11:39 PM
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5'8 is not short. Everything you said about height is bullshit because you are not short.
/r/TheRedPill29/12/16 02:11 PM
1

While this is a "water is wet" situation, how can one use it to his advantage?
/r/seduction29/12/16 02:06 PM
1

Sounds like you've been pretty lucky despite the circumstances. Yeah I really need to work on my SMV.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/16 06:51 PM
2

Same here too. The most common advice given to a short guy is to date short women. But short women actually prefer to date really tall guys. The most recent girl who turned me down is probably 5'1. The guy she's dating is 6 something.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/16 06:42 PM
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Yeah that's pretty much it. 5'7 and below is short.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 10:12 PM
1

I like a shaved pussy. Honestly I have thought about it. I generally prefer white girls (my own race) but I'd be fine with a nice cute Asian girl. I took Japanese for a few years in college so worst case scenario I could move over there. Probably not till I'm 40 and accept that it's just not going to work for me in the US.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 09:25 PM
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Average height in the US is 5'10. The more inches a man is below average height the less attractive he becomes. I know I'm not ugly and girls have said I'm good looking, cute etc. Though since I'm not getting anywhere with them, I take their opinions with a grain of salt.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 09:23 PM
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They are often used interchangeably.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 09:20 PM
3

Short guy game is different than average to tall guy game. This gets glossed over far too much. The vast majority of pick up material does not work for short men. And few people understand how much of a handicap being short is. I'm 5'5, 35 years old and I've only been in one relationship which lasted only six months. There is no doubt in my mind that being short is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Well that and Short guys have to be in an environment where theyre the top 20% of that g…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 09:03 PM
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5'9 and 6'2 isn't that different on the grand scheme of things. Especially to a 5'3 woman both guys might as well be the same height.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 06:14 PM
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Yeah I've seen some pretty buff short guys and if it's not from roids then the just have really good genetics, though unfortunately are short. The simple fact is that a short buff guy isn't going to be able to compete in the looks department with a buff average height guy. That's where SMV is supposed to come in and counter the physical bonus the other guy has. This is what actually makes up social market value https://illimitablemen.com/2013/12/13/understanding-social-market-value/ Then there’s…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 04:45 PM
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Nothing... Just keep lifting. Redpill seems to have devolved to the lowest common denominator; that looks and muscle is all that matters. Of course that's not true and social market value is about so much more than being huge. Also completely eliminate any shame you have in your mind for banging escorts. I have mixed feelings about escorts. Simply put, having a girlfriend provides a lot more value for a lot less money.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 04:28 PM
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ROFL! Unfortunately it takes around 14 years to find out what your stats are going to be and you might get used to your character.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 04:19 PM
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He must have worked really hard to get that tall.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 04:09 PM
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As a 5'5 guy what the fuck am I supposed to do with this "advice?"
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 04:07 PM
1

And that cost adds up after repeated rejections.
/r/seduction15/12/16 06:08 PM
1

OK cool thanks for looking through them. So it's all about the candid look; which he has a mix of plus portraits. The sun effect he does is pretty cool.
/r/seduction13/12/16 12:20 AM
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I found that person by doing the search. She mentioned online dating in her page and the prices seem decent. There are a ton of results for editorial photographers where I live. http://www.robandrewphoto.com/project/lifestyle/ http://www.jasonwardstudios.com/ http://www.kcalfred.com http://www.kevinroche.com/ Are any of these good? I'm starting to get an idea of what to go for.
/r/seduction13/12/16 12:10 AM
3

That's an amazing guide. Thanks for the link.
/r/seduction12/12/16 06:08 PM
2

I am considering doing the exact same thing. I want to get into OLD and Tinder but I don't have any decent pictures of myself. Found a photographer that seems decent. http://www.jeanmarshallphotography.com/lifestyleportraitphotographer Anybody know if those are the right type of pictures for a dating profile?
/r/seduction12/12/16 06:01 PM
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Exactly what I was going to ask.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/16 08:07 PM
6

being funny is potrayed as a feminine thing Absolutely not. Think about all the comedians you know. How many of those are female?
/r/seduction08/12/16 03:43 AM
1

Thanks for such a detailed reply. That's really cool of you. For some reason I can't find any lairs in my city, which is surprising because it's a major metropolitan area. There is even a city link on the sidebar but that sub is dead. Would you know of a better way to find a lair? If there are no lairs in my city, then what's another way to find a decent yet inexpensive coach?
/r/seduction06/12/16 05:18 PM
1

I wish I could. I've only been in this city a few months and haven't made any real friends yet. All the guys I'd want to hang out with are in relationships. Oddly enough, I've had a couple of girls at work offer to go to a bar with me and pick up women, but they keep canceling on me. Sigh.
/r/seduction06/12/16 04:36 AM
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God I wish I knew. All I'm figuring out is what doesn't work. The most recent thing I learned was that when going out by myself getting drunk is not enough to make me sociable and outgoing. I'm still really quiet and insecure.
/r/seduction05/12/16 09:28 PM
3

I started learning about seduction in my early 20's. The reason why is that I had a completely lack of success of any kind with women. Also I had several women use me for their gain and I got nothing out of it at all. I'm smarter now. Still no success with women though...
/r/seduction05/12/16 09:25 PM
1

How do you find a coach that meets that criteria?
/r/seduction04/12/16 05:09 PM
1

I completely agree. He was really ugly as a young guy. I'm sure he was never able to get laid....
/r/seduction01/12/16 11:27 PM
3

My city is listed in the side bar but the sub is pretty much dead.
/r/seduction01/12/16 10:52 PM
3

I guess you have to hide your valuables. Then you have to hide the stuff in your pockets when you get home without her knowing.
/r/seduction30/11/16 07:01 PM
2

Yes, what you are talking is exactly what abundance mentality is about. Don't stop with the one girl you have. Get more girls and have an abundant life. The abundance mentality will come from that. Telling a guy to have an abundance mentality when he has zero girls is asinine.
/r/seduction30/11/16 05:25 AM
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That's not the correct way to have describe abundance mentality. Look at the example that I replied to. If you were texting with more girls, you wouldn't even have noticed that she stopped talking to you and she would have probably wondered why that is. The abundance mentality is to pretend that you have many other girls to talk to so you won't notice if one girl drops off. Compare that to living a life of abundance where you have many girls you are talking to so you won't notice if one girl dro…
/r/seduction29/11/16 11:39 PM
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Enough with this abundance mentality nonsense. Abundance is something you live. You can't pretend to have abundance when you have nothing and be fine, just as a starving homeless man can't pretend that he's living a life of luxury. It's delusional
/r/seduction29/11/16 08:32 PM
1

I went through models as an audio book and now I'm going through the book form taking notes. One thing that I don't like about it is that it doesn't talk about men who have low self-confidence. One part of the book he's talking bout defense mechanisms and why men don't want to approach women. He talks about fighting fear and dealing with anxiety. Then he goes into "The first step to overcoming your fears is to figure out what your pattern is." Then he goes into the patterns, which I'll write the…
/r/seduction29/11/16 04:57 PM
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This one
/r/seduction29/11/16 04:42 PM
2

OK new plan as what you're doing is not working. Take a girl out for drinks in the evening. Try to set up things so you can sleep with her afterwards. For example, once I can actually start getting dates. I'm going to take her to a couple of bars close to where I live, then walk back to my place for a glass or wine or whatever excuse will work. Then escalate from there.
/r/seduction29/11/16 12:24 AM
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You're definitely a gamer. Everything is well organized and clean. While I can appreciate it, it actually seems too nerdy. I just have the impression that a non-gamer girl will think it's too much.
/r/seduction23/11/16 04:38 PM
1

Heh, I'm an ass when I'm bored.
/r/seduction22/11/16 10:54 PM
1

Thanks for the reply. I don't have any more video game posters so I would have to buy something. No family photos, never really been something I care about. What I do have is three black and white photo graphs that my late grandfather took. My interests are computers/technology, anime, video games, salsa/swing dancing (which I don't do as often as I used to) and I guess working out. It's cool that you have a theme that you can decorate to. I can see how it makes things easier. I saw some interes…
/r/seduction22/11/16 10:53 PM
3

Hope so. I figure the average guy lays 0 guys in his life.
/r/seduction22/11/16 09:18 PM
4

Get some framed pictures and other decorations that show off your personality. I used to have posters on my walls of women and video games/anime because that's my personality. Now that I'm older that stuff isn't appropriate but I don't know what to put on my walls. Any tips?
/r/seduction22/11/16 09:07 PM
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Ugh, you're going to make me buy an Apple product.
/r/seduction22/11/16 09:05 PM
1

You have to understand something though - sometimes people just aren't looking for other people Then the video and this thread doesn't apply to them.
/r/seduction22/11/16 09:03 PM
3

Bevmo If a bottle of champagne is only going to be used for two glasses regardless of it's size, then why not get the four pack. Consider this, four date nights means four regular size bottles. $48 Or four date nights could be four small bottles. $15
/r/seduction22/11/16 08:32 PM
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Apparently champagne goes flat a few days after it's opened. It may be a good idea to have a 4 pack of smaller bottles if a full size bottle won't get finished that night.
/r/seduction22/11/16 06:56 PM
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It's not really complaining, it's just acknowledging the way the world works now. OK fine, a little complaining as technology has made things harder than it used to be. Twenty years ago a man and woman were pretty much limited to the people in their daily lives and friends of friends. When online dating (OLD) started, both genders had a much larger pool of people available to them. Men were able to contact a much large number of women, and women were contacted by a much larger number of men. It'…
/r/seduction22/11/16 02:32 PM
2

Only the most attractive guys come close to the number of options the average woman has. Yes I know the whole purpose of seduction and this sub is to increase our options and to stand out from the herd of guys that hit on any specific girl.
/r/seduction22/11/16 02:19 PM
1

Ugh this happens to me and I can't stand it. I'm starting to go out to bars by myself and even though I drink more than I should, I'm still too stuck in my head and don't talk to any girls. I also have a very strong belief that no girl would be into me because I'm 5'5 and it just doesn't go away no matter how many drinks I've had.
/r/seduction21/11/16 10:55 PM
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Bored at work and going through YouTube, found this on trending. While the speaker doesn't specifically mention any gender and all the figures are men, it's pretty obvious that the video is really about women. In this modern age, women have so many options they are overwhelmed by their options and have a harder time making a decision about a partner. It also talks about how things were in the past and people (women) had less options than they do now, which wasn't exactly a bad thing.
/r/seduction21/11/16 10:51 PM
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Great! If I ever become a hot guy I'll be sure to try that.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/16 02:54 PM
1

That's a completely random reply. And to let in immigrants without any sort of background check is asinine.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/16 03:19 PM
4

Also known as Reaganomics. It completely failed.
/r/TheRedPill12/11/16 12:55 AM
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I'm shocked and dismayed how many people believe that the GOP is on their side. The GOP is the party of the very wealthy. If one does not earn at least $200,000 a year they receive absolutely no benefit for voting conservative.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/16 11:17 PM
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What's wrong with witting off rural White America when there are so few of them? There are more people living in Los Angeles than there are living in Kansas or Oklahoma. NYC has more people living in it than there are people in each state 13-50 in the US state population list. Wyoming only has 582,658 living in it.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/16 11:14 PM
2

Thankfully the brother closest in age to me is even more screwed up than I am, so he won't be having any kids soon. The other brother is 21 so odds are I won't be an uncle for a good while. Though it is a pretty bad feeling when all my cousins my age have kids and a few younger cousins are married. I just imagine what they think when there I am at the family gathering without any sort of a girlfriend.
/r/seduction11/11/16 11:05 PM
2

Also the majority of those people are uneducated and simply don't know any better. Trump said so himself, "I love the poorly educated." Frankly I don't think getting the votes of the ignorant is much of an accomplishment.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/16 11:00 PM
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It's an absolutely horrible feeling when you are struggling with women and nothing you do seems to change that. As a (straight) man we are taught that all of our value comes from having a woman in our lives. A man who is alone is a failure. Nobody wants to be the weird uncle who never got married. I'm 35 and have only had one girlfriend, and that relationship lasted six months. To say that I'm angry about life is a gross understatement. I wish I had some advice to give, and to tell you that it w…
/r/seduction11/11/16 01:45 PM
1

Thanks for the book. Reading it right now. It seems there is a page or more missing. Page 5 ends with They match with women on online dating sites, and chat a bit but things go nowhere.... They meet women at social events or through work, but Then page 6 starts with the Three Steps to Deep Attraction. In the last chapter, I explained...
/r/seduction10/11/16 07:28 PM
13

If I'm going to give a woman $3 million for her to get an abortion, I'm going to drive her to the clinic myself and make the doctor sign the note that the procedure was performed.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/16 07:30 PM
5

Thanks for the photo tips. It looks like I have to stage some photos, and get a suit. I'm very wary of group photos because they make it painfully obvious that I'm really short. At 5'5, 9 times out of 10 I'm the shortest one in the group. I'm not really sure what to do.
/r/seduction08/11/16 03:47 AM
1

I hadn't thought about it from that perspective. From my position I can't imagine anybody who is tall having trouble with women unless they have a really off putting personality or something about their image scares away women. Do you have any female friends? I easily make friends with women and I know they like me in a purely non-sexual way. They just aren't physically attracted to me and I don't have enough game to make up for their lack of physical attraction.
/r/seduction07/11/16 07:15 PM
2

more pointing out when I see someone complaining about it comes across as have a victim mentality (quite unattractive in a guy) rather than focusing on improving the things they can change. Which is precisely why I never talk about my height in person. And yes I'm working on myself to be more attractive but there haven't been any results which makes things more frustrating.
/r/seduction07/11/16 06:17 PM
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Can you post some more tips on how to make a profile that gets attention from women? All the tips in the world of how to message aren't going to help when I never get matches.
/r/seduction07/11/16 05:15 PM
2

Being short is not some bullshit scapegoat excuse. Women are legitimately more attracted to tall men and turned off by short men. That is a fact. A short man has to work harder to be as attractive as a man who is average height. Likewise guys who are taller (up to a point) can put in less effort.
/r/seduction07/11/16 05:05 PM
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The scorecard example makes sense. Though physical attraction alone is probably worth 50 points. I also believe that if you aren't at least average in looks or height, then that takes away points. For example every inch below 5'10 is worth 5 points. So a guy like me who is 5'5 starts with -50 points. That means I would actually need to get 150 points to have a girl attracted to me. When put in that way, it actually explains why I've struggled so much and reaffirms my belief that if I was average…
/r/seduction07/11/16 01:53 PM
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I can't agree with you any more. Women just have a natural dislike for short men. It can be overcome but we have to work really hard at it. Guys who are average height or tall will never understand. I'm afraid of doing online dating because it broadcasts my height front and center. Sure I could lie about my height and add three inches, and say I'm 5'8 which is still short. I tried Tinder for a while but didn't get any results as I'm just not good looking enough. Sigh.
/r/seduction04/11/16 01:27 PM
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I think you are seriously downplaying the importance of looks. Tall good looking men have it easy with women. There is absolutely no denying that. All a tall good looking guy has to do is not screw up too badly. On the other hand a guy who is shorter than average or only average looking is going to have to do almost everything perfectly to get anywhere with a woman. By default women will have zero attraction and that makes things so much harder. Source: A 5'5 white guy that has done horribly wit…
/r/seduction04/11/16 04:05 AM
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There's no point in initiating contact with her. If you never hear from her again it's for the best. You were absolutely correct in not paying for her food.
/r/seduction28/10/16 01:31 PM
1

I'm really trying to figure out what the best (easiest) way to get laid is for a short guy, 5'5. I tried Tinder for a few months and only got two phone numbers and no meet ups. Granted I have no idea how to make a good profile. Just recently I started going out to bars/night clubs near where I live and women don't seem to notice me at all. Right now I'm still too self-conscious or maybe not drunk enough to go up to random girls and throw myself to the wolves.
/r/seduction25/10/16 07:53 PM
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And they are very few in number. There is only one girl that I can think of who was not fat and still ugly. And no I'm not including people that have Down's.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/16 12:43 AM
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The thing about ugly women is that the vast majority of women under 35 are only "ugly" because they're fat. If they want to stop being ugly, all they have to do is lose the weight and they get all that privilege. Regardless, I still believe that even fat women have it easier than the average man.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/16 09:51 PM
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How do you actually get good pictures of yourself? Figuring out how to make a decent bio would be great too.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/16 07:19 AM
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I've heard of Flame for Tinder but it's IOS only. No idea if it works or not.
/r/seduction20/10/16 10:22 PM
1

I have the same issue. I'm 5'5, 143 lbs struggling with a 95 lb bench and the guy next to me has two 45 plates on each end. Odds are I'll never be able to bench that much.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/16 01:31 PM
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Well we did stop using condoms after a month or so and she never got on BC. As far as I know she never got pregnant, something about her not being able to without treatment. So the lesson was that I got pretty damn lucky.
/r/seduction17/10/16 07:46 PM
9

Back when I had a FWB she would come over one night a week and leave around 4pm the next day. On average we'd have sex 4-6 times in that time period. Damn that was fun.
/r/seduction17/10/16 04:34 PM
1

Did you type this in Word first? For some reason when something is copied from Word to Reddit all the line spacings are removed. So you have to double space each paragraph.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/16 01:52 PM
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It's whining about how bad things are for guys that aren't very good looking. There is no value.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/16 01:50 PM
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The point of the article seems to be about changing a "Maybe" into a "Yes." I don't even want to think about how many times I turned "Maybe" into a "No" because I didn't know what I was doing.
/r/seduction14/10/16 01:14 PM
1

I've never had a problem with getting sloppy drunk so I'm not worried about that. I just need to get my mind to shut up. It sounds like you approached them in a really friendly way and it just worked. Cool.
/r/seduction11/10/16 03:43 PM
1

When I go out dancing at clubs I almost always end up dancing by myself the entire night. Girls never seem to take any notice of me. So usually I don't have any fun at clubs and don't really like going to them. I've never taken a girl home I met at a club or bar or even kissed anybody. I'm also not that social of a person and have to force myself to talk to people.
/r/seduction11/10/16 03:38 PM
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It's not even really about increasing confidence, it's to stop thinking so much, stop caring what other people think and just relax. At this point in my life I can't do that without alcohol. The goal is down the line when I become more comfortable in those types of situations I won't need alcohol to hit on women.
/r/seduction10/10/16 11:16 PM
1

How do you not try when you go out by yourself and the only reason you go out is do something with women? For example this coming Friday night. I could either stay home and play Forza and go to bed at 11 or go out to a bar and hope to meet women. Odds are I'd have much more fun staying home and get a good nights rest, but of course there's zero chance of getting laid. Is the answer to just go out for the hell of it (even though I rather not) and expect nothing?
/r/seduction10/10/16 11:02 PM
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Thanks for the report. So it seems like you forgot tip #4. Have a drink or three. When I go out by myself I'm way too anxious and don't talk to anybody. Usually I have one drink which isn't enough to get me out of my head. So I guess the trick is to drink more. Fortunately I just moved into a place that's a ten minute walk from the bar/club area so I can have a couple of drinks at home. Then get one at a bar and be good to go. Then I guess from that point on it's to just keep trying. So how did …
/r/seduction10/10/16 10:35 PM
2

The single cause of oneitis is simply not having other options. Of course she's a special snowflake when she's the only one there "for you" (and she's not - she's disgusted by your neediness). You have no one to compare her to. She's the best because there are no other competitors. She also gives you most attention of all the girls you pursue (that is - one). You mistake kindness with attraction and politeness with interest. How the hell you're supposed to know which is which without any referen…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/16 04:57 PM
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That would make things even worse for the two of you! You need to wing with a guy who has some experience.
/r/seduction10/10/16 03:46 PM
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Very interesting. I've been around 20% my entire life. Attention from women has been non-existent. Then again I'm also 5'5. I've always been stuck in a rut of trying to gain mass to look bigger but also gaining fat and making my face look bad. Right now I'm 142, 20% (according to my scale) and I guess my focus should just be slimming down and then bulk up.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/16 01:35 PM
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No offense but it sounds like the blind leading the blind.
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:14 AM
1

I'm confused. Wouldn't saying "No, only as a date" be rejecting her? I didn't care that it wasn't a date and I got my intentions across. My plan is to take this as far as I can go and not give her an easy out. She'll either give in (not likely) or clearly state that she isn't interested.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:40 PM
1

That's what I did, "Sure whatever" and then we went out salsa dancing. We also got drinks and tacos after that then she took an Uber home. I treated her exactly like I would if we were on a date except, no kiss attempt though. She's super busy with night school and said that we can plan a "social outing" for next week. To me it will be a date and I'm not sure why she's trying to differentiate it as something else.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:10 PM
0

How would you handle it if a girl says "Yes, but not as a date."
/r/seduction05/10/16 04:30 PM
1

In before anybody says that you become cool by not trying to be cool.
/r/seduction02/10/16 03:48 PM
3

I'm not talking about ugly guys, only average looking guys. The average guy doesn't have women grabbing his ass and throwing themselves at him. It's so much easier for good looking guys that it's pretty much playing a different game then everybody else. That's why advice from a good looking guy is useless to 80% of men.
/r/seduction30/09/16 10:46 PM
2

I actually know how to do salsa and swing dancing. I haven't had much success transition from "formal" dancing to club dancing.
/r/seduction30/09/16 10:42 PM
0

What's the trick to start having fun? I can go to a club and dance by myself for about 10 minutes then I just get bored. Women never approach me or actually acknowledge my presence.
/r/seduction30/09/16 08:56 PM
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I hate to say this, but I'm a pretty good looking guy so I have girls "hitting" on me a lot. They'll grab my ass, or grab my tie, or touch me, or whatever. Thanks for that disclaimer. Unfortunately it means that me and about 80% of men have to disregard your advice.
/r/seduction30/09/16 08:07 PM
1

It says first date right there in the link.
/r/seduction30/09/16 12:40 PM
2

If you are alternating rounds like he suggests, then you're only paying for four drinks max, unless you go to more than four places. Maybe two is the magic number, then go back to your place.
/r/seduction30/09/16 04:16 AM
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I really like the idea of bar hopping and starting further from my place and progressively getting closer. Oops, that wasn't mentioned in this article but a different one http://postgradcasanova.com/better-quality-first-date/ Now all I need to do is get women to go out with me.
/r/seduction29/09/16 08:59 PM
2

There's a bar near my place where I can get a beer float. So it's 1 and 2 combined!
/r/seduction29/09/16 08:54 PM
1

It's just normal now. Most guys don't do anything that requires that amount of strenth. According to Livestrong a novice (somebody who trains regularly for three to nine months) should bench press just under 80 percent of your his body weight. I don't even know what a completely untrained man is expected to do.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 06:10 PM
2

Seth Rogan ROFL! I keep getting them mixed up.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 06:02 PM
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Not surprising at all. He's probably never trained and had no reason to lift anything heavy like that.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 06:00 PM
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They definitely have a different since of humor in France, or at least a not as politically correct as the US. It's a nasty joke to play on a man or a woman. The people here weren't aware that it was a roast show.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 03:31 PM
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It is all a joke. Was it rude ? Yes. It's the point. It is a French TV show where the "miss meteo" roasts the guest. Most people here were not aware that roasting the guest is the point of the show. His agent should have warned Jonah (not Seth) before he went on the show.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 01:47 PM
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Grab a random guy from the street and odds are he won't be able to. What's normal for the gym isn't normal for the rest of the world.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/16 01:43 PM
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Missing the point? I was agreeing with your post. There isn't a universal place where women go to be approached and there are few places where it's taboo to approach women, the gym is not one of them. Somebody replied to my above post and said that clubs are a universal place to approach women, and I replied that it's not true because some women go to just dance with their friends. It's really up to the guy to see whats happening in the environment. The main point of my post is that gyms are not…
/r/seduction09/09/16 01:36 PM
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It's called the club. That's what there for. Not true. Many girls "Just wanna dance with their friends."
/r/seduction09/09/16 02:16 AM
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If you don't want men to approach you at a gym then only work out at gyms that don't allow men. Fact is, approaching women is freaking hard and there isn't a universal place where women want to be approached. Do you have any better ideas where a guy can go to approach fit women?
/r/seduction08/09/16 05:09 PM
2

Thanks for the tips. Be more obvious when looking at them. Kino right away. Part of it is attitude too, my energy is rather sexualized and dominant in general. For shorter men especially, having a highly dominant attitude goes a long way. That's definitely an area I'm lacking. I don't exude sexuality. And no I am absolutely don't have a dominant attitude. That's just not how my personality is. Odds are that is a big reason why women aren't interested in me.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 08:44 PM
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I don't know what system you have, so I'll just guess PS4. Here's a good list http://www.gamespew.com/2015/07/top-10-couch-co-op-games-on-playstation-4/ The search term you want to look for is "couch co op" or "local co op."
/r/seduction07/09/16 05:38 PM
1

Thank you for this post! Just about every other post is saying to give up because she isn't offering to blow him.
/r/seduction07/09/16 05:08 PM
2

More often than not, women don't know I'm hitting on them. I compliment them on their jewelry, style etc. and they just say thank you. From what I've heard it's that women naturally don't see me as a "sexual threat" because I'm short. So how can I flirt more directly and openly get my intentions across? The big mistake that most guys make is to try to hide their interest in a woman, and hide their sexuality in the process. This is what kills attraction for women because they sense a man who is n…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 04:43 PM
2

If you are "trying" to be smooth, then that means you don't know how to be smooth and you just look stupid.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 04:34 PM
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"Give me your heart, make it real, or else forget about it." It seems like you are mixing up smooth and sleazy. The whole point of being smooth is that the person isn't aware that it's happening to them. You absolutely want to be smooth, but if you are doing it incorrectly, it looks very bad.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/16 04:32 PM
1

I have the exact same issue. My biggest problem right now is that I've read so much PUA material it's all getting jumbled in my head. The basics of seduction is Open Attract Close The problem is that there is just so much material out there that I'm having trouble actually finding stuff that I can use. It's just information overload.
/r/seduction06/09/16 05:40 PM
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Paying for her is a provider trait, so until you've been banging for a bit and have shown her you're not a total beta then I'd avoid paying for entrance fees. If you feel like buying a snack or whatever while you're there that's acceptable in my book since you invited her out. It seems that I didn't get my point across. I'm looking for cheap dates to take a girl I haven't slept with yet.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 06:25 PM
1

Adventure dates are great but they don't seem to be that good for a first date. Also stuff like the zoo and go karts can get really expensive. Would I be expected to pay for her?
/r/TheRedPill28/08/16 03:29 PM
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