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This seems to be what people forget when they mock advice like "Women want a man who shares his emotions!" Pretty much all of those tips are accurate if you prepend "Assuming you're already masculine and confident..."
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 02:34 PM
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No. This is game theory as biological principle. "Selfish" traits exist at low levels through basically every social species, because defecting is profitable when everyone cooperates, and disastrous when everyone defects. People are greedy and dishonest within limits - even tribal societies have these things at low levels. There's also a lot of debate of whether sociopathy is actually a disorder - there's the low-functioning kind that gets you arrested, but the high-functioning kind is basically…
/r/TheRedPill11/05/16 03:04 AM
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My usual feeling is that struggles can only be shown if they're spun as positives. You might have been able to get lots of warm, happy emotions from telling her about how you're "thinking about a startup on the side" and going from there. Similarly, grief plays fine as long as it makes you deep instead of weak. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you want change, but it can't come with the implicit admission that things are bad now. Only with the suggestion that you have even bigger dreams…
/r/TheRedPill11/05/16 02:06 AM
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Thanks, this brings up another question. OP points out that there were some criminal acts here (false police report) but as far as I know she hasn't been charged. Can you make a Fifth Amendment plea in a civil case to avoid potential future criminal charges? If not, can you get your deposition excluded from any criminal case against you that might arise?
/r/TheRedPill07/04/16 03:15 PM
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In general, it isn't. It's a shot in the dark by her lawyers, who has to have realized that they're up shit creek on this one. Some plaintiffs don't testify because they're too traumatized, but they're not using a legal defense for that. They're the plaintiff, they don't have to testify unless called, and their lawyers don't have to call them. Crucially, its usually their own case that's being weakened. Importantly, "testify" is a weird word for what's happening. The judge is requiring that she …
/r/TheRedPill06/04/16 02:28 PM
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Remember: it's convenient for her if men don't feel the need to conform to gender roles. That makes it especially obvious which ones are worth pursuing. If all men feel the need to act stoic and macho, it takes some time to work out which ones really mean it and will keep up frame. If the men who hate doing that decide it's ok to be whiny and effeminate, it becomes possible to filter them out on sight.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 04:56 PM
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Seriously. Find me a District Attorney who cares more about the truth then about reputation-building convictions, and I'll find you a liar.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 04:51 PM
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A good read, and a painful lesson for M: confrontations are reserved for people with value. If someone who holds your respect fucks up, you can look them in the eye and demand answers. If someone's life is a disaster, they won't even be able to recognize the problems with their actions.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/16 04:33 PM
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On one level, that's true. On another level, I've been to a lot of places where I really wouldn't want to give the non-joke version of that as my answer. Too many employers don't want to hear that you'll piss off a client or superior with honesty. You're right, though, that this can still be solved with "don't be a dumbass, know why you're giving this answer".
/r/TheRedPill01/03/16 06:16 PM
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This is also why high end software companies interview candidates so aggressively. The two tiers of dev end up with the same degree, so it's up to companies to find out which group they're dealing with and hire accordingly.
/r/TheRedPill29/02/16 05:01 PM
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It's looking like that's not the case this time. Rousey is already making noises about fighting the winner of Holm's next bout. I think in this case, she's been hyped up so far that she can't fight a pushover and call it a comeback. She has to win a big fight and have her Rocky moment, and then she can go beat up on whatever punching bag they put in the ring with her. If she loses, she's probably done, and either faces a long road back to stardom or a pivot to some other way to make money.
/r/TheRedPill24/02/16 04:29 PM
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Bullshit dude, treadmills hurt your knees! It's just rows and rows of ellipticals, as far as the eye can see.
/r/TheRedPill17/02/16 09:14 PM
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That's awesome to hear. I definitely overstated with "men only", because there are always a handful of women around who are kicking ass on some serious weights.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/16 07:39 PM
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This is an excellent answer. Thanks for being the one to engage with a totally unhelpful rant. Yeah, some people on TRP preach "lift every day" as a way to get laid and nothing more. But that doesn't make it the only reason to lift weights. Strength and fitness gain you respect from everyone in your life, and have real, valuable impacts on your mind regardless of how others see you.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/16 07:32 PM
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And for most of us, lifting heavy things works wonders for clearing the mind and establishing something that can't possibly be twisted or lied about.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/16 07:28 PM
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This is a problem that's actually well-solved by a "women's area" with separate equipment. The gym can invite women, offer lots of suitable cardio machines and weights, and ends up with a "men's area" despite never saying it. Something about the racks of barbells and the dozen squat machines seems to imply "men only"...
/r/TheRedPill16/02/16 07:25 PM
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It's a genuinely difficult question. I'll edit about welfare versus SS/Medicare, but I stand by the suggestion that it's not an easy case of "well, she paid". I gave a much longer reply further down, but I'll summarize benefits below: Rand's Lifetime Withdrawals: $11,000 from Social Security (via FOIA requests) Unknown value from Medicare. Reputed to be larger (she had a lengthy fight with cancer) but no actual value is known. Rand's Lifetime Contributions: Unknown amount as Hollywood screenwrit…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 04:59 PM
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Notably, other major libertarians of the time like Isabel Paterson did exactly that. Rand argued she was collecting "reparations" for the money the welfare state had taken from her, but it's a shaky foundation. What Rand actually paid is a weirdly complicated question. She earned some direct income as a Hollywood screenwriter in the 1930s through the 1950s, but its unclear how much. At that point, the tax rate and maximum taxable income (for Medicare/Social Security) were both quite low. After t…
/r/TheRedPill15/02/16 04:41 PM
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Put it this way: Ayn Rand is the most worthwhile crappy writer there is. All the criticism people level at her is true. Her prose is stilted and strange, her characters monologue in absurd ways, and her moralizing is sometimes clumsy and bizarre. Personally, she went on welfare to write about the glory of labor, and was a frigid, nasty person who alienated her closest friends. None of that matters. There's a feeling of energy to her books that I've rarely seen elsewhere. She's not the bitter con…
/r/TheRedPill12/02/16 05:17 PM
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I actually learned this lesson first from Fear and Loathing. Don't answer questions if you might beat the charge, but that goes out the window if you're guilty as sin (and white, and the cop doesn't hate you already). At that point, when the facts call for a license suspension and maybe a night in jail, you're fucked even if you don't confess. All you can hope for is to show the cop that you're calm and polite and were in control, and hope he won't nail you down on the really nasty charges.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/16 09:31 PM
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This is way better advice than Reddit's usual look-I'm-a-douchebag script about "Am I being detained?" Assuming you're not massively guilty, there's no reason not to ask the officer how his day is going, be polite, and let things blow over. Don't answer questions about the topic at hand, but there's no reason to be a dick. It's possible to be courteous even as you decline to answer questions and ask for a lawyer.
/r/TheRedPill11/02/16 07:59 PM
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The Equinox thing baffles me. Not the "slow progression as a cashgrab", that's obvious. I just don't get how they can succeed by delaying squats. Anyone who can wear a backpack can squat an empty bar, and after that it's just adding weight. Surely even the most cowardly clients can work that out? (well, apparently not, but...)
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 04:31 PM
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These days, I hear that and my next thought is "So dating you is that bad, eh?"
/r/TheRedPill10/02/16 04:22 PM
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An exceedingly relevant comic from Scott Adams (who spent years in the trenches with this sort of thing): http://dilbert.com/strip/2008-06-13 Even a company that's a bit more on the level, that intends to pay you, can completely fuck you over. Maybe their purchasing department takes three months to pay an invoice normally. Maybe they're tight on cash, so they decide to just not pay you until the year end reports are are done. Maybe they want to chisel you down a few grand at a time until you acc…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 07:10 PM
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That story is fucking horrifying. I'd heard the outline, but there's something new in that copy I'd never noticed: the process server lied. This isn't just about child support, it's about an appointed agent of the court claiming to serve papers to a man and never doing it. In fact, claiming to have done something impossible - meeting a man at his house while that man was in prison. If this doesn't remind you to have no faith in the legal system, I can't imagine what will.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/16 04:57 PM
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Really, though, these women have a point. They want a kid, but they're married to someone they can't fuck unless they're drunk. What the hell else are they gonna do? On a more serious note, check out the irresponsible bullshit spewing from the people quoted in the HuffPo article. People can take six months to get pregnant... I think it's an unrealistic mandate. Fuck you it's an unrealistic mandate. If sobering up for a few months is that hard, you sure as hell aren't ready for 18 years with a di…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/16 04:42 PM
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He goes beyond his "legal on private property" comments, though. That quote was pretty hyperbolic, and has been twisted out of place, but there's some genuinely dark shit behind him also. His Bang Poland content has several accounts of holding women down while they try to leave and stripping clothes off them as they say "no" and try to push him away. As he describes it, everyone he had sex with eventually said "yes", but he's still copping to things that are potentially rape and certainly unlawf…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/16 04:16 PM
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I want to just say "he's fine, that's hyperbole", but he's also written up detailed accounts of a rape. Not just a "she was drunk" situation, but "she was screaming no while he held her down". He could certainly be making shit up for attention, but rescuing his statements takes a lot more than saying he exaggerates his views.
/r/TheRedPill04/02/16 04:09 PM
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As for the sexual assault thing, don't do this with anyone you aren't involved with to some degree. It might be fine, but it's not worth the consequences if it isn't. Beyond that, though, what's she going to do? Call you an ass? At that point you just laugh and shrug. If you're sleeping with the woman in question, it's not really a two-party action.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 09:02 PM
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As is the Sean Connery lifestyle. The shootouts were acting, the womanizing wasn't.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 08:34 PM
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Yeah... it's like a cross between "hostile work environment" and "constructive dismissal". People assume that since markets are efficient, no one will be rewarded for doing destructive, counter-productive things to their employees. It's not true. They just do those things when there's an incentive to make employees unhappy, like when they're trying to cut staff. If I were you, I'd be looking at new jobs. New restrictions without a good reason either means they're trying to avoid severance pay, o…
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 07:35 PM
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Google usually won't take degree-less people the age of college grads, but if you have some interesting projects or successful jobs under your belt they stop giving a damn. After you beat the interviews, you're probably qualified regardless of education.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 04:20 PM
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If I needed a 'heavy' to close down or streamline a department, I'd look for the hardest-charging businesswoman I could find. She'll be ruthless and unimaginative, and if I get lucky she'll drive a bunch of people to quit before I have to pay severance!
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 04:16 PM
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It's either a homepage or an email client for lots of people. If I remember, Yahoo Mail pushes hard to make you pick Yahoo as a homepage, and drops you there after you sign out. Easy numbers inflation. I'd love to see their visitation stats for people under 30, I'll bet that's dismal.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 04:14 PM
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Buying Yahoo stock is hoping to hold Alibaba stock, though. Mayer already tried to sell the Alibaba stake once, and would probably try it again if the shareholder revolt hadn't scared her away.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 04:12 PM
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This is why these studies aren't done. There's only one answer you're allowed to get, and if you get something else your entire conclusion has to be a list of reasons your study sucked and you must be wrong.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 04:11 PM
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Buying into Alibaba was sharp, at least. It'll preserve some value after everything else goes down the tubes. On the other hand, Mayer tried to sell that and the investors forced her not to. I'm predicting they'll basically just become a shitty VC firm, hoping to buy into something that can save them.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 04:10 PM
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In fairness, Yahoo was a sinking ship before that also. They just decided to choose "building up gender imbalance" over "building up a profitable core business".
/r/TheRedPill03/02/16 04:09 PM
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All I can give you is an outline: poor, authoritarian, war-torn, and fairly Islamic. It's a religious country, with elements of sharia law, but like most dictatorships the religious thing gets pushed aside when it inconveniences the rulers. In theory it's a democracy with universal suffrage, but they keep crying 'war!' to overrule that. 50% of the people live in poverty, per capita GDP of $1,200, so it's really quite poor. Incessant war with Ethiopia has made that worse, and killed off a big chu…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 08:51 PM
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I'm surprised by the amount of surprise here. As an economic matter, fining bad behavior isn't significantly different than rewarding the corresponding good behavior. After all, giving some people more moves prices to the disadvantage of everyone else - look at Saudi Arabia, where the benefits system has produced wage slavery for everyone not on the dole. Plenty of countries have strong economic incentives to get married, or to have kids in the context of marriage. That's everything from tax bre…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 05:02 PM
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This story seems pretty deeply irrelevant. The government there is paying men to take extra wives because the war left them with such a horrible gender imbalance. They're also threatening women with life in prison if they oppose their husband's taking a second wife. If anything, it's a pretty good example of the redpill sentiment that men are more disposable because they don't share women's 1:1 role in childbearing.
/r/TheRedPill27/01/16 04:56 PM
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Interesting use of "rape culture" in that last sentence. We very much do have a culture fixated on rape, even if it's not in the way that the term was originally coined.
/r/TheRedPill26/01/16 04:29 PM
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Customer service, traffic accidents, anything where someone has an incentive to 'win'. As soon as you say sorry, they've got an edge you can't get back.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 07:13 PM
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Its not legal worded that way, but plenty of contracts can force you to pay back a "signing bonus" or "relocation fund" if you quit before some specified point (X months, Y photoshoots, whatever). I was imagining that something like that going into the contract, though obviously you could contest it or read the damn thing before you sign.
/r/TheRedPill25/01/16 07:11 PM
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I totally buy that you can manipulate someone into a situation where they feel like doing porn is the best way out. It does raise the question of who the hell signs a "take the job or pay us back" deal, and who thinks they have to if they didn't sign, but coercing broke people to do stuff just isn't that hard. For some of the sketchier groups (e.g. anything East European) there can also be a vague threat of violence against someone stranded far from home. As for this woman, the steady career in …
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 04:00 PM
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Well fuck that, GLO. I'm declaring this a post about evolutionary dimorphism in moths. Or, y'know, it's a solid post about avoiding advice from people who hate you. But clearly that message already flew over some heads.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 02:28 AM
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It's a totally legitimate thing for a person to do, but that doesn't mean it's for everyone. Don't say this stuff if you're not super-high SMV. Don't say this stuff if you're not smooth. Don't say this stuff if you ever want to be a public figure. Do say these things if you're smooth, and confident, and have tested the waters. If you aren't a god, start by saying some 'traditional' things but don't mention TRP by name. Do try to become awesome enough that you can tell people these things.
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 02:26 AM
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This is an important personal rule. Apologies are a matter of power - give them only to people who matter when you've truly wronged them. Trump knows both ends of this technique. He never concedes, but he also knows to use anything he gets as leverage. When someone says he was even marginally right (some immigrants have ever done bad things), he uses that as a cudgel against his opponents. Every apology or concession is grounds for demanding more concessions. Never apologize unless you care abou…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 02:19 AM
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This is a huge trick in persuasion. Whenever you get a concession, use it to demand more concessions. It's like blackmail - concessions don't engender sympathy. They're just proof that your victim isn't going to stand up to you, so you can increase your demands. It's what Donald Trump keeps doing to crush his critics. Trump never apologizes, but it's more than that. He says 1,000s of Muslims in NYC publicly celebrated 9/11. It's obviously false, but he lets people debate it until someone says "m…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 02:16 AM
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A counterpoint: he was fucked long before he apologized. He was a small business owner who got publicly tied to the uglier parts of TRP and PUA. Worse, he made his posts recognizably about individuals. Once it came out, he was going to lose his business. He was going to be publicly shamed, and harassed in the streets. Anyone who tried to help him (man bun guy) was going to be threatened too, because that's where we're at. Apologizing the way he did was a bad move, but it just cemented a losing p…
/r/TheRedPill21/01/16 02:12 AM
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I don't envy your task. The hell with all the responses about how this is bad parenting. This is what kids do unless strongly prevented from doing it. You're not only tasked with raising a daughter who will be a good person, you're tasked with doing it in the face of every outside influence that can fight you. The worst and weirdest thing is that you can't just discourage all behavior related to this. Definitely, punish and explain and fight this behavior, but I see otherwise-functional men comb…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/16 05:09 PM
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The whole persecution narrative gets a little weird when the "persecuted" side writes for pay and acclaim under their real names, and the "persecuting" side desperately hides their identities for fear of having their lives ruined. In particular, the use of guilt by association is utterly bizarre. Even someone who comes to TRP to argue against us can expect to be banned from a bunch of other subs, just for having posted here. That's not avoiding abuse, it's concealing the existence of other viewp…
/r/TheRedPill12/01/16 07:18 PM
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I may be a touch cynical, I confess. Still, I really don't want herpes, so while my praise may be faint it is not hollow.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/16 06:30 AM
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Anyone who's read about high-level chess will recognize the same technique. Chess openings are rigorously studied, and each sides odds of winning after a given opening are well known. What's fascinating is that this doesn't just mean every grandmaster plays the highest-percentage move at every turn. Instead, they try to drive the opponent onto a track that favors them. Players with strong center games will make a move that offers their opponent a high-win central move, or a low-win rim move. Def…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/16 07:46 PM
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My usual rule: randomize age, location, and anything about your appearance or history that other people can recognize. Mexican restaurants become Italian, 3 years ago becomes 4, and so on. I can't keep all aspects of my life out of a sub like this, but I can make sure there's no traceable thread.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/16 07:29 PM
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Proverbs and Leviticus are full of useful things, just as long as you don't slip up and get involved with any of the religious stuff. Lots of it is outdated, but it was at least a pretty good guide for avoiding herpes and dysentery.
/r/TheRedPill09/01/16 02:21 AM
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Honestly, before that scene I had been expecting them to kill Chewie. It'd be the bullshit Disney thing to do, like killing Mufasa. Kill the lovable sidekick so that you get emotions without any actual consequences to characters. What they did there was way better. Very Disney death for Han, but that instant "fuck you" was real and fitting, and helped excuse Ren's weakness in the ending fight. They even set it up a bit with Han's love of Chewie's gun.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 11:31 PM
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Seriously. He starts out stopping lasers and throwing around a crazy Sith version of the mindtrick. 30 minutes later, he's losing a battle of wills to a random teenager. I can give him a partial pass for losing the final duel since Chewbacca softened him up with a pretty serious gunshot, but losing the earlier contest was absurd. And yeah... Luke giving up is utterly weird and out of character. I guess they wanted him offscreen while they introduced the new stars, but it's a ridiculous thing to …
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 09:17 PM
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I feel like they're backed into a bit of a wall with the Jedi in general: Rey is new, Luke quit, and Kylo sucks. That limited cast kind of kills the flavor of other Star Wars works, where there were either lots of Jedi or at least memories of lots of Jedi. There's no real room for an order or a code at this point, it's just a few people running around doing things. Kylo Ren was an interesting character, at least. He's trying to be stoic, vicious Darth Vader but he's weak and full of emotion. Unf…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 08:50 PM
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Those are both solid plays. And you make a really good point about the filter - at a certain point, it's not worth continuing even if you could eventually get a number. If that step (from a woman on Tinder) is hard enough the whole thing isn't worthwhile.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 06:23 PM
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This is a great piece, and I think I can offer some evidence that this pattern is widespread: there's a gender-reversed version in Asians. Asian women widely date white men. Asian men rarely date white women. The OKCupid numbers say that Asian women like Asian men, but like white men even better. Meanwhile, all non-Asian women give crappy ratings to Asian men. All races of men favor Asian women. So what do we have? The gender-flip of black culture: Asian men can't date outside their race, but 'g…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 06:16 PM
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An interesting note on medicating depression and anxiety - the chemical treatments work just as well for 'natural' emotions as they do for serious mental disorders. This can become a copout ("fuck changing my awful life, I'll pop pills 'till I'm happy with it!"), but it can also be really useful. If you're at the point where the natural cures seem unattainable, it can be powerful to start with medication. As a lot of people have noted, depression in particular is a vicious cycle: all the things …
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 05:55 PM
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This is a fun analogy, but you're going down the wrong path with "feminism as Sith". The strength of the Sith is their self-knowledge: they're openly and unashamedly evil, seeking power for it's own sake. Never forget about solipsism. Feminists across the board are sincere, it's why they can be so persuasive. It's also why they occasionally work against their own interests - they believe all the stuff they say. Even the ones who turn their 'struggle' into a cushy lifestyle tend to believe they'r…
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 05:45 PM
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This is a good summary. Part of Rey's 'prescience' seems to be a plot necessity for a story where there are no mentors available. Luke got the last two, and Star Wars has never shied away from ass-pulling rules to keep a script moving. Beyond that, they're running a huge risk with the lack of a proper male lead: The father-figure relationship between Finn and Han Solo produced some of my favorite scenes in the movie, but that's out of the question. Despite Poe being an expert pilot, they handed …
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 05:39 PM
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I would put up one exception to this: Tinder and it's ilk allow for game. If the texts are your first contact (after that excellent picture GLO taught you to take) then they shape her first impression of you. At that point, you can set yourself up via text according to the normal rules. Be direct, pass shittests as you would in person, don't back down. Just remember that the goal is an in-person meeting, not getting all the way via text.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/16 05:29 PM
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This is very much a thing, and not just with partners. It's a common pattern to see people get super invested in charity and memorials for people they never really liked. I think it's partly absolution - if you treat them well in death then you can whitewash every wrong and conflict you gave out in life. Beyond that, it creates a "cause" and a sense of tragedy that's far more interesting than your average middle-class life. I don't think it's an accident that you never see this from people with …
/r/TheRedPill25/12/15 05:15 PM
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She is an alpha widow, in a strange sense. He's dead in a tragic way, so he brings her social validation but never argues or gets in the way of what she wants to do. Whatever he was like in life, he's the perfect benefits-only man in death.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/15 06:54 PM
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You know who I want to mail to Siberia, third class? The guy who brought back the Start button for Windows 8, but made it take you to their crappy "tile" screen. It's fucking insulting to put back the feature everyone wanted but give it a new function no one wanted. And yes, the whole "ribbon" system that Word's menu moved to is a crime against design and software. Too many hipster, 20-something designers, not enough actual users.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/15 04:30 PM
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"Do the handshake they offer" is good advice across the board. I've had people open with a 'gangsta' handshake (grab the thumb and clasp hands). That's weird as hell, but worry about it later and shake their damn hand now. There's nothing "cringeworthy" about following an interviewers lead - your highest goal is to make them feel like you're a good fit for the company.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:25 PM
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And once again, approach anxiety melts away if you're confident that they'd be lucky to have you (and that another company is right around the corner).
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:20 PM
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It's a question that's pretty specific to coding. For me, a good answer would have two parts: A way to avoid mistakes. "I write my test cases prior to starting to code, and code accordingly." A way to catch the mistakes you do make. "I test my code from the perspective of a user, then run it through code review to ensure someone else looks for mistakes I could have missed." Mostly, though, this is a way to identify smug assholes who don't check their work. More people than you would expect say s…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:19 PM
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That's one of the best possible questions to ask programmers, just to catch out the morons claiming they don't fuck up. Lots of different good answers (test driven development, rigorous QA, code review, etc), but what really matters is to drop any candidate who thinks they don't need to double check their work.
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:16 PM
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This is a small observation, but don't use the honesty joke. It's funny enough to someone who hasn't heard it, but: What's your biggest weakness? Honesty. Why is honesty a weakness? I don't give... Wait, umm, you're supposed to say "I don't think of honesty as a weakness." Can you say that instead?
/r/TheRedPill21/12/15 06:13 PM
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That makes a lot of sense. It's essentially a request for punishment or rougher treatment, so if you're getting it occasionally it's communication. If you're getting it all the time you aren't fulfilling her desires.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/15 04:43 AM
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Bratting (or more generally, "topping from the bottom") is a complex one. I think it depends both on how it's done and what the relationship is. The whole "Am I a bad girl? What are you going to do about it?" thing works great for some people and some roles. It keeps the scene moving, and gives the sub a way to indicate what they want without breaking out of their passive role. The dom is still running things once he clarifies that "Yes, you are a bad girl. Now come here." On the other hand, the…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 09:27 PM
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Thank you. This is incredibly important, and you put it really well. It's why TRP isn't about abuse or control, or about "helping men win". TRP is about teaching men to be worth sticking with. It's officer training school, not a boot camp that teaches women to obey unfit officers. Sexual relationships aren't life-or-death, and so it's far better to build effective leaders than to demand subservience to bad leadership. Saying that women must "put men first" to overcome their habits is like insist…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 08:05 PM
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This is an interesting observation, though I'm not totally sold on the first part. I buy the "exclusive lust" pattern: if a girl you're with gets other guys to buy her shit, but doesn't respond with attraction, you're not being threatened. The "exclusive love" thing, though... I think it's complicated by the possibility of having bastards. Certainly, it's been more acceptable for a man to have mistresses or concubines than for a woman to do the equivalent. That said, it's not something women acc…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 07:49 PM
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Assume for a moment that he was telling the truth. Now, raise your hand if you think his wife used the same approaches he describes here? No one? Bueller? Bueller? That's right. She flipped out and told him to stop talking to that worthless whore, and he did it without a word of objection so he could stop sleeping on the couch. And so, once again, flipping the situation shows us how incredibly unegalitarian this advice is.
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 04:54 AM
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The bit about ultimatums is interesting. A lot of his advice sucks, but I agree that ultimatums are bad. Still, I don't think that it's necessary to choose between shutting your moth and walking away without warning. What's the middle path, then? Conditions. It's the version of an ultimatum that doesn't involve being a little bitch. You're simply saying "This is out of bounds, and I won't stand for it." There's no need to detail consequences, because you're just letting her know that something i…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 04:44 AM
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This is a valuable observation. As much as "common knowledge" about relationships tends to suck, there's one really good piece of it: If you don't care for yourself, why should your partner care for you? I've also heard it worded more directly as "Relationships don't work unless each person puts themselves first." If your partners interests don't align with yours, then either someone realigns their interests or you split up. Value your needs over your relationship or else you'll both end up serv…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/15 04:33 AM
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Glad to help! Let's see. Business and management are pretty similar - check out what your university offers. They both help establish you as a competent leader for a business. Business is a bit more mechanical (how to book revenue, write up effective contracts, etc), which might be useful. Management is a bit more amorphous, but still worthwhile. Accounting is substantially different. It has some of the same use as the first two, but it's less about leadership and more about practical uses. It a…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/15 01:47 AM
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This is a pretty solid plan. Economics has three big career forks: law, academia, and business. The first two are saturated right now, but neither is impossible if you do well and set your mind to it. There are a lot of unemployed lawyers, but very few from top-notch law schools. Just be aware that it's no longer a field where you can go to the 78th best law school, do no internships, and expect a high-powered career. It doesn't sound like you're in danger of that, though. If I were back in scho…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/15 10:08 PM
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They exist, if it's what you're looking for. Sure, there are no unicorns, but not every woman today grows up with the full female entitlement message. I've certainly heard women say the actual words "I'm in a relationship with him, so sex is part of my obligation". Transaction/obligation sex isn't enough, but it matters like crazy to find a woman who accepts that she has actual duties in her relationship. (And, who reliably carries out her duties in other settings. No use in finding someone who …
/r/TheRedPill09/12/15 08:42 AM
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Jesus Christ. I respect his (limited) journey back to sanity, but he's not settled on suing for an at-fault divorce? How the fuck not? She cheated, but she didn't just cheat. She tried to hide it, but she didn't just try to hide it. She got pregnant, and tried to keep the kid, but she didn't just do that. She tried to get him to undo a vasectomy so that she could keep the kid of a guy she actually likes, and have it raised by her pedestal-placing husband. Somehow, none of that got through to him…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 07:39 PM
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Thanks, this cleared up some parts of the story I still didn't get. I just couldn't work out why even someone properly delusional would whip out "That would be cheating" in the midst of cheating with OP. She's already justified fucking OP, so what's the harm in fucking OP and another woman? Then I read this and it all clicks. She already had something with OP in the past, so that's "different". He came back all high-status, and her current guy isn't impressive, so she wants to jump ship. Plus, w…
/r/TheRedPill02/12/15 04:24 PM
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The one good thing I've seen come out of the whole debate is that the military has seized on "equal training, equal standards" as a way to keep things under control. They presumably can't fail every woman indefinitely, but it seems like some lessons have been learned from incidents like that one. Equal standards plays well, because it shapes the conversation - there's no easy way to oppose it without implying that women aren't equal.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/15 07:49 PM
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I can't really criticize the female officers in this. Most either didn't want to take the course, or realized they couldn't pass it. The ones who tried were fighting against basic biology, trying to achieve strength and endurance tasks set to challenge exceedingly fit men. There's a reason it's world news when a woman can break male records in a strength/speed task. The obvious issue here isn't with the women in the course. It's with the feminists pushing for someone else to go do the hard, biol…
/r/TheRedPill28/11/15 06:39 PM
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In addition, a tech dude who's just coming off being flat-out broke in college, and doesn't really differentiate between $60k a year in the Midwest and $130k in California. Those are both just numbers to him, but holding onto the first person who ever let him get some seems irreplaceable to his socially-inept self.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/15 02:40 PM
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I see those all the time actually. They usually include several paragraphs about how the company is "dynamic, profitable, and rapidly growing", but don't actually offer benefits, good pay, or advancement. Much like the single mother, there's lots of good stuff being talked about, but none that you'll get any of. And even more like the single mother, you'll be replaced in a heartbeat once robots can handle the task.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/15 09:32 PM
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This is superb advice. People are right when they say "this is mindfulness, not extroversion", but holding onto pure mindfulness in day-to-day life is quite difficult. The power of this tip is that it it's an easy-to-activate way to live in the moment. You don't need minutes and silence to clear your head, just a few seconds and something to look at. When you're thinking about sweet cars, or how nervous you are (and why you're nervous, and why you're thinking about why you're nervous, ad infinit…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/15 07:50 AM
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This seems to have a lot in common with the usual treatment of traitors. They might have helped you out, but they've also proved that they're dangerous and willing to betray the existing order, so they have to go.
/r/TheRedPill21/11/15 08:11 PM
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The thing about "preplanned behavior" is particularly amusing in light of what TRP actually encourages. Every time I see someone asking for a plan to deal with Situation X, a mod or endorsed contributor shows up and says "If you plan your shit, it'll be awkward and ineffective. Only real confidence and a clear understanding of the situation can give you an alpha response." TRP definitely outlines shit, but the lesson, stated over and over and over again, is that you need to genuinely be confiden…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 11:30 PM
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I'd like to go a little further, and say that TRP (not random guys in the anger phase) has extremely good things to say about a lot of women past 30 (or 50, or whenever). To the extent that TRP talks about women being "valueless", it's usually in the sense that women are much more inherently desirable than men. Average looks and a willingness to have sex will carry a woman through a lifetime of relationships, even if she has no job, no skills, and no real personality. That's not true for men, so…
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:45 PM
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Neoreaction always reminds me of an inverted French revolution. A bunch of guys are going to storm the fortress and raise up a king for the good of the masses. That's great and well-intentioned, but it'll only take a little while for the new guys in power to start worrying about these unstable revolutionaries. After that it's all beheadings and serfdom, just like before.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 10:06 PM
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And on the far side of the movement, we get the dumber parts of Neoreaction. They seemingly think that we can fix everything by going back a Dark Ages monarchy, which will develop once people write enough smarmy blog posts. Tell me whatever you want about how hypergamy is dooming society, but don't tell me you're going to fix that by writing blog posts that are only read by other guys who agree with you.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/15 04:42 PM
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Hey man, I've been there. Like, antidepressants and everything, full scene. It doesn't make you unimportant, it doesn't mean things can't change, or anything like that. There are some people in the comments here going "suicide is how male failures remove themselves" - it's bullshit. Your book isn't closed until you die, and as long as you live there's always room to change the ending. I spent quite a while on antidepressants, and they did make me feel better. This has real value, because you can…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/15 08:08 PM
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This is one of those things that sounds like a joke until you stop and consider it. Antidepressants and mental health counseling for men are, in a real way, attempts to not solve the problem. Certainly, there are men who are mentally ill to a serious degree, and will only be treated with mental health care. Some depression and suicide ideation, plus virtually all psychopathy and schizophrenia (which, interestingly, is an almost exclusively male disorder). There are a lot more men, though, who ar…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/15 05:50 PM
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Scott Adams has gotten burned a lot for writing about gender issues, and he's never stopped doing it. I remember a period in the past where I was horrified - "Dilbert is hilarious, why does the creator have to be such a sexist pig?" Now I get that those things are complementary, not opposed. Recently, he actually ran a good examination of the Pay Gap. Basically, he asked everyone to submit their best argument for or against it, waited a few weeks, then dissected all of the submissions he got. Th…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/15 05:35 PM
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Thanks, that analogy is an informative one. It's a powerful image to view the Torah (or religious text of your choice) as a work that contains every element of the truth, but offers only a single, less-than-perfect arrangement of those elements. Given this, do you give any weight to the Christian mystery cults and secret orders that are out there, scarce though they may be? I don't buy into the extensive conspiracies around the Masons, but some of the Gnostic orders have obviously gotten into ex…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/15 04:16 PM
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Can you help me with that you mean about Christian priests? Certainly, mainstream Christianity doesn't carry the same belief in 'deep' knowledge and secrets that Kabbalah (or, to a lesser degree, other Judiasm) does. But I don't see where you get the idea that the priests are demanding faith because they don't trust their congregations with secrets. It seems to me that most pastors and clergymen have no more involvement with 'hidden' truths than those they minister to. Christianity as a whole is…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 07:43 PM
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Thanks for this. I think a lot of the 'neoreaction' concept that "no one is in charge anymore" is based on a weirdly optimistic version of what Order meant in the past. Sure, the Church might have kept divorce rates down, but not in a competent manner. The poor would either stay miserable, or leave town without a formal divorce, and the rich would buy annulments from shady bishops. The State might have kept crime rates lower, but that was in large part because crime didn't count if it was agains…
/r/TheRedPill18/11/15 07:36 PM
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Hey, glad to help. It's something I fight with (and often lose to) myself. It was a weird moment for me when I realized that acknowledging flaws doesn't actually make anything better - it's why people can spend a decade exploring "the roots of their problems" with a shrink and never actually change those problems. We've generalized that learned helplessness to everything from obesity to cheating, and it doesn't help to do anything except preserve our habits. Certainly, there are things we can't …
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 09:03 AM
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It occurs to me that the essential 'feminine' trait we're talking about here isn't weakness, it's following. The guy in this story followed his wife all the way to replacement and divorce. In the 50s, he would have followed his dad and his uncles and his culture and shot down the idea. He would have gone along when she brought it up (she's the strongest force in play so far), but then he would have told someone high-status (here, read 'masculine') in his life. They would have laughed and said "A…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 07:34 AM
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I do it in spades, and I can't pretend otherwise. (And even now, I have to work to consider that a fault I can change, rather than a trait about who I am. Ego defenses run deep.) If you're curious, I got the original insight from The Last Psychiatrist, especially his Hipsters on Foodstamps article. He's needlessly dense, but there's some great content there.
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 07:26 AM
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You've verbalized a really interesting idea here: The more feminized the society, the more destructive it is for a man to be feminine. In a masculine society (say, the imaginary 60s of Mad Men), social constraints maintain relationship dynamics even if a man is feminine. The wife in this story never would have pushed for an open relationship because it would have destroyed her social life. The husband would have shut things down sooner not because he was manly, but because there would have been …
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 02:44 AM
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This is the real answer. As a bunch of psychiatrists have pointed out, the point of defense mechanisms is not to make you successful or even happy. They are there to keep you from having to change. If you get hit with something like "I want to cheat on my husband", cognitive dissonance can only take you so far. The next line of defense is to accept the flaw instead of changing it. "This is who I am, and that's my burden to bear". You're no longer a good person, but at least you don't have to cha…
/r/TheRedPill17/11/15 02:26 AM
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Somebody here offered me a revelation about this. Relationships are transactional, which most of us know already. Given that, there are only so many ways to get a partner to do something if they're reluctant, and you're not bribing/compensating them. You can say "do it because it would make me happy", but if they say "that's not enough" you need something else - "do it or I leave". Even if the threat is implied and never used, it matters to have it there. If "or I leave" isn't on the table, then…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/15 04:52 PM
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Cheers, Nightwing. A quick reread shows that my line about morality was unclear. I didn't mean to say "these are equally moral" but rather "regardless of morality, these are not equally accessible". My outlook would be that any sexual decision that isn't appreciably harming others is moral, but that's a philosophical question and "isn't harming others" is a surprisingly complicated standard when we talk about social norms. I've seen the liberal-authoritarian duality pointed out many times, but s…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 05:30 PM
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I think the whole "everything is fair, nothing is innate" mantra of the left also helps to drive this. It's taken as a given that everything should be fair and everyone should have equal opportunity, which means that personal inability to get high quality men can't simply be a well-functioning marketplace. Instead, it must be some kind of bias or discrimination. Further, the "everything is good" outlook has explicitly argued that casual sex is as valid a choice as actual relationships. It may be…
/r/TheRedPill10/11/15 04:17 PM
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On a related note, the physical standards women use for men aren't emphasized by men's clothes reliably. Pretty much all women's clothing makes the T&A situation clear, even if it's an "appropriate" outfit that doesn't actual reveal anything. Women have realized that they shouldn't wear ultra-concealing clothes like sweatshirts unless they are hiding something. As a result, guys tend to be pretty clear what they're seeing physically. Women don't have the same option. If you lift and have a good …
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 07:27 AM
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That's pretty much my feeling. Aside from the subs too small to need moderation, it's basically this, AskScience/AskHistory, and a handful of others with mods who don't feel like they have to approve every idiot who comments.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/15 09:58 PM
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This is why I come back to TRP. There are lots of places to talk about this stuff - blogs with one 'expert', forums with thousands of people commenting, and everything in between. What makes TRP great? It gets a diversity of views, and community information sharing, without all the stupid. It's a forum without all the pointless flame wars and ignorance masquerading as knowledge. And it's only that way because the moderation is aggressive and unapologetic. Keep on banning, and don't ever apologiz…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 12:33 AM
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To a really impressive degree, it's the order. This isn't just about gender, this is about US law across the board. As creepy as it is, the ideal of "a smoothly functioning legal system" is raised above the ideal of "justice for all". In one Supreme Court case a few years back, the court had to decide whether a man convicted of murder deserved a retrial after errors in the prosecution's evidence were revealed. The court determined that with the new evidence, the man probably wouldn't have been c…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 03:59 PM
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I don't think it's a formal concept, but you can call the police (non-emergency, preferably) and tell them you're uncomfortable with the legality of a situation and would like them to clarify/be there. They might say no, but in relationship matters they'll often do it (like accompanying someone to pick their stuff up from an ex's house). For a non-relationship example, I got in a minor car crash. The other person called the police, and then immediately started grilling me on whether I was drunk,…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/15 03:51 PM
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The best lesson I have ever learned is: if someone involves the law in a matter, never try to de-escalate the amount of law involved. If someone has their lawyer contact you, you don't answer until it's your lawyer responding (even if the situation is still amicable or business). If someone calls the cops, you embrace them and refuse to deal with the person without a police witness. If someone takes you to court, you countersue instead of trusting their promise to "drop the case". No matter what…
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 11:30 PM
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No joke. The (verbal, so you can't even prove it) invitation to come over isn't going to change the outcome of violating an explicit court order. Fair or not, this is a case of "You're actually guilty, and you admitted it, try and mitigate the charges".
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 11:22 PM
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Yeah... This isn't about gender roles, an anti-male justice system, or anything else. Copping to a felony in a US court means you're going to end up convicted of something, end of story. At this point it's all about determining the damage, especially since he technically did violate the protective order.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 11:21 PM
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I found real progress on strength and wellness when I stopped working out on low-sleep days. I was stuck between succeeding at a shitty, low-weight set and failing and risking injury on a quality set. Neither of those were productive, but taking a fucking nap (or going to bed earlier) is.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 01:48 AM
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This really shouldn't have been necessary or relevant, but that's not your fault. It's the fault of the motherfuckers who aren't sleeping and are bitching about how tired they feel. Thanks for the moment of clarity (with some actual fucking science) for those who need it.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/15 01:46 AM
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This is an interesting thought, and I imagine the effect going either direction (or even being cyclic). We generally see that people who go out and do things are less likely to be depressed. People who are employed and productive are less depressed. People who exercise heavily are less depressed. People who socialize a lot are less depressed. We also see that depression stops you from doing those things. It's a pattern so extreme that people will go on antidepressants just to work up the energy …
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 04:17 PM
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Two sides of the same coin, I think. Feminism reshaped how these conversations were structured and claimed a huge amount of social power. MRA tried to go "Hey, listen to us instead of them!" and everyone just laughs like they fucked up at a talent show.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 03:18 PM
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This strikes several notes that I don't think I've seen anywhere else. I'd be happy to see it on the sidebar because it's not just clear and approachable, but unique. Even after a lot of experience with TRP, I kept failing to understand a specific pattern. A woman would get annoyed over some entirely practical matter ("Why didn't you put gas in the car?"), and I would give a practical response ("I did put gas in the car"), thinking that was the end of the matter. It never was. "Feels come first"…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 04:46 AM
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For whatever it's worth, this stuff is partly a test of your confidence in your decisions. Or it's pure golddigging, but at that point there's no response that matters - you're just going to walk away. You know the 2014 was a better buy, so there's no need to worry about the 2015. You know that volume isn't acceleration, so there's no need to have a louder car. You already know you were right, so you don't even have to think about the challenges. That means you can call her out for fun instead o…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 03:05 AM
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I think this is a huge part of the situation. There still are domains where women are disadvantaged. Discrimination by religious movements and atrocious sex education in some parts of the country are two obvious answers. They no longer match up with feminism's initiatives in meaningful ways. A dozen studies have shown that gender inequalities in STEM are completely in place by late high school. So why not push for it before then? Because that's hard. Because someone might have to admit "this pro…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 02:48 AM
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MRA, as far as I can tell, is hoping to replicate the feminist movement's success. It's an absurd goal. Feminism had opponents. The louder they got, the more attention it brought to the movement. MRA has mockers. The louder they get, the less serious they look to everyone else. Without some kind of leverage, there's no room for change.
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 02:33 AM
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The problem with identity politics is that they become all consuming. This is key. Identity politics fundamentally deny the possibility of success. Outwardly focused movements can establish a concrete goal. When they achieve it, they either disband or pick a new goal to achieve (which is subject to fresh debate). First and second wave feminism essentially fell into this category - suffrage and contraceptive access were well-defined objectives. Inward, identity-based movements have no such option…
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 12:26 AM
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As you say, the TRP-MRA struggle has all the hallmarks of an internal conflict, the sort of thing feminism saw in the early '90s, and the Republicans are seeing today. The key identifier is that everyone agrees on how things are, and they have roughly compatible visions on how things should be. What's sparking conflict is a disagreement over how to get there. MRAs, broadly, are calling for open challenges to the status quo. RPs are calling for indirect opposition or for circumventing the entire …
/r/TheRedPill24/10/15 12:11 AM
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We're not going to stop listening to music of watching movies. These Industries know this and thus can pocket from both sides. I think this is a seriously underestimated effect. Women spend more disposable income on entertainment than men, but that effect is way smaller than the impact of turning a single sex entertainment into a unisex one. Men already listen to pop, and they go to rom-coms when women drag them there. No one has figured out to how make men go see rom-coms on their own (or make …
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 04:50 PM
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The answers about "you don't want those men" all make the same mistake. They can't tell the difference between '5 years younger' and '20 years old, regardless of age gap'. There are totally creepy dudes who are dating down because they suck at life. They're the guys who were dating high school freshmen at age 20, and are dating 20 year olds at age 30. They suck, so they have to find someone younger who mistakes age for maturity and impressiveness. There are also guys (all the guys) who prefer da…
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 12:57 AM
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At least the top reply to that points out that any woman wanting a family (with her own kids) really does have an expiration date. And then, of course, the replies melt down and go "But adoption! Just like having a family of your own!" I honestly can't tell if they're hamstering away aging, or just pushing the idea that raising someone else's kids is as good as raising your own.
/r/TheRedPill22/10/15 12:53 AM
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I think casting "The wife is another matter" as BP might be unduly harsh. The alternative reading of that line is something like "She's too old to give her basic lessons in responsibility. Do it or don't." He doesn't say "You totally ought to plug in your wife's phone", just says that you're not teaching her self-reliance. It's ambiguous enough that it could equally well be (quietly) RP.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/15 12:31 AM
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The link on the left side of that article is "Young, male, and feminist - if only there were more of them". That's a hell of a pair.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/15 03:00 PM
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This is incredibly depressing, the commenters just quietly gloss over the fact that a string of questions about how OP is at raising kids aren't quite a perfect match for a "no strings" first date. At least when video games ask me to raise someone else's kid, I can turn them off.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/15 08:04 PM
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I'm surprised at the presence of a bunch of guys who post on TRP condemning her there. There's a whole bunch of "That's equality for you, suck it up", which is a weird thing to say for someone's presumably opposed to that state of affairs.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 06:53 PM
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This is exactly it. A good story that's not topical is a bad story. There's no use mourning that, or trying to force it. Just jump to the new topic and be worthwhile there.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 06:47 PM
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It's awkward (I'm skinny, and I do get cold fast). I mention keeping the core warm partly in contrast to other things - for me, two good jackets and jeans beats a good jacket and snowpants. Wear something windproof and two layers whenever possible (extra gaps for air are like wearing nice down coats), and try to keep at least one of the layers cinched up at sleeves and collar to keep out cold air. I'm a huge fan of softshell jackets for a "light" covering, since they tend to be warm and windbrea…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/15 12:08 AM
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It depends on how cold - muscle stiffness absolutely happens. I don't run outside at some level of cold, because cramps and pulls happen too fast for a decent workout (plus, slipping on ice sucks ass). If you're talking about cold weather workouts, long underwear helps, and long, gentle warmups. If you're talking about not hating the cold in general: keep your core and ears warm and you can cope with a lot. Get some good blankets so you can at least sleep well. Celebrate the fact that you can st…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 08:57 PM
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NPR is way harder to summarize with one label than Fox or CNN. They contract their programming from a bunch of basically unrelated sources, so it ranges from neutral-and-objective, to opinionated-and-careful, to utter hackwork.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 05:13 PM
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An interesting thing: lots of the people in the comments there basically acknowledge "he ruined you for Casey and that can't be saved", but then go on to talk about how she's not ruined overall, she just needs to lock down a new guy with all the traits of her FWB! It's all very positive and supportive, except for the fact that she already failed to keep her FWB. About half the advice in that thread boils down to "You need to hold out for your perfect alpha if you ever want to be happy again."
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 03:10 PM
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For all that it gets talked about, I've never seen a woman cry "I'm an alpha widow!" before. At least not this directly. It's a strange thing to actually see someone state that they're ruined for any guy they can get into a LTR with.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:54 PM
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It drives me nuts how widespread this has gotten. I'm in the gym lifting several times a week, and I'm still a novice by any serious standard. When I run into other guys who "work out", a surprising number want to talk all about it. That usually means they want to talk about creatine, and protein intake, and the schedule they eat on, and which muscles they work which days, and a dozen other things like that. Virtually none of them go to the gym and lift hard on a regular basis. The ones who do t…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:51 PM
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In a sense, it's better than being rich, because no one can take it for themselves. When you have money, people come around wanting to have your money. When you have abs, people come around wanting to be near your abs. People might still be fake, but they're faking to be close to you rather than to get what you have. That, and the confidence and personal power it grants can't be replaced by anything.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:57 AM
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A good shot of caffeine works wonders for me. If you get jittery or otherwise don't like caffeine's side effects, cut it with L-Theanine. It's a mood booster, stress reducer, and immune booster on it's own (a little bit), but it mostly has fantastic synergy with caffeine, taking down all of the jitters while reinforcing the alertness. It's found in green tea, or in mixed with caffeine in pill form. Thoroughly safe (which you can easily check) and it made my caffeine use far happier.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:55 AM
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If anything, second from the left might be stronger than the rightmost dude, who's a bit smaller on the arms and concave on the obliques. But the rightmost dude still screams "fit" because he's showing more definition around his shoulders and core.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:50 AM
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This is important. The people preaching "you can't gain muscle during a cut" aren't talking to the new lifters. Your body responds to the stresses you put on it, and the new lifter gains will show through on a gentle cut. I got good results for a while lifting at maintenance, and I think I'm not alone in that. Transitioning fat into muscle is something you can do without being on some crazy GOMAD bulk, especially early in your career.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:47 AM
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Anything made of good wool helps a ton. Even good wool socks with a normal outfit will make me feel a lot warmer.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:44 AM
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My fitness pal is good, though you have to be careful with the occasional retarded calorie estimate or serving size in the suggestions. I don't use it regularly (like you, I've had pretty good results with "eat when actually hungry, eat less if you're cutting"), but it's definitely worth doing for a little while. I've used it for a few weeks on a few occasions and it was a great decision. In addition to learning how many calories you're eating (I had a good guess), you'll get a better feel for w…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:43 AM
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An alternative, even if it's less of a willpower exercise: hot, then cold. Crank the shower up warm, then warm up and feel happy. Before you get out, flip it cold, then keep it there. Keep it on cold until it stops feeling like hell and starts feeling normal. It's invigorating, it helps you get used to feeling cold, and it makes turning off the shower feel good instead of bad. It's what I do for living/working in cold as shit places, too. Basically any time I feel that bone-deep cold that can't …
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:40 AM
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A thing to avoid that I see guys pull all the time: forcing a out of date comment when the conversation has moved on. Sometimes you'll be in a conversation, and think of something you want to say - it won't be crucial knowledge for anyone, but it'll be some funny story or witty bon mot that's worth sharing. Before you can get it out, the conversation will transition to a new topic. This happens to everyone, but it's especially common for guys who don't command attention well (they can't say it q…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:32 AM
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If you haven't encountered it, check out Nietzsche's work on Master and Slave morality. It helps break through the confusion over this by creating a dichotomy: this isn't about one moral code where we're fighting over who's moral. It's about a contest between two different, antithetical moral codes, which is why everyone involved thinks the other side is the devil. Quick rundown: Those with power (Masters) establish a moral code. It's somewhat utilitarian, valuing those things which are producti…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 05:35 PM
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There are still some "Don't be a slut" cultural standards in full force, and women bringing up kinky/degrading bedroom practices would still break those.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 04:06 PM
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He did (for some things). She mentions deep in the comments that he asked about outfits (they did that), asked about anal and deepthroating (she refused) and then never asked about anything further. She has a moment of insight and points out: "I guess maybe after I shot down anal and deepthroating he didn't bother asking about other stuff he thought I might think was too raunchy?"
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 04:05 PM
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There are also several people pushing more sincerely RP points: namely, that this is about respect and can't be fixed. That even if her previous relationship was unhealthy and born of desperation to keep the guy, that still means she's much less worried about keeping the current guy, and that her respect ladder is CollegeBF>Herself>Fiance. So even if she has every right to not do those things, he still needs to walk because he's (unfixably) undesirable to her.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 04:01 PM
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You might be surprised if you actually do check it out. Lots of people who suck, but the highest up posters are (politely, in /relationships acceptable tones) explaining why he's totally right to be hurt, and she can't fix this by talking. Bonus points to the guy who explains that even if this was just about her previous lack of self-respect, it still means current-fiance is at the bottom of the respect ladder and ought to leave.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 03:59 PM
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You missed the furious commenters on the original thread going "How dare you compare sex to romance, that's not a male equivalent, it's totally unrelated!"
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 03:56 PM
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Well, even if everything she said about "not even knowing she had them" is true, there was a moment when she decided to stuff them in a box of English papers, tape it up, and ship it to her new house. Y'know, instead of burning them the day after the breakup.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/15 03:54 PM
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Between "treat her" and the fact that she broke up after seeing someone buy a third house, I'm definitely not seeing "financial security" as the ambition here. It seems like the fighting in the comments is between people saying that her actions were reasonable, and people saying that her words and motivations seem to have been terrible.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 07:30 PM
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This is it. She didn't say "I wanted financial security if something went wrong" or even "I wanted a different, more ambitious lifestyle than he offered". She asked why he wasn't spending his money on treating her, and dumped him after seeing a friend on Facebook by a third house. After all that, she would have stayed just knowing about the money, even though his behavior wasn't going to change. There's nothing wrong with dumping the ramen-eating burnout, and I don't choose to live like Will. Bu…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 05:03 PM
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And then she's furious that he didn't spend his money on her. This wasn't about "He lied to me" or even "I wanted him to be financially secure", this was "doesn't he want to treat her"? She had a damn good idea where she wanted that money to go.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 04:58 PM
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"Proof I'm not a gold digger." Right after breaking up with him because she wanted to be like the girl buying her third house. Excellent.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 04:56 PM
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Sir Velociraptor there kills it with the insight "it seems as if all (or most?) of what you bring to a relationship is sex". He offers the usual 'but of course it's all ok' qualifiers, but he nails the core insight that the problem is deeper and more fundamental than her partner count. 60 partners at 23 might be a deal-breaker on its own, but it's still just a symptom of a bigger disease.
/r/TheRedPill13/10/15 12:09 AM
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For a lot of men that age, their "long time single" would be 23 years, and many of them wouldn't even see it as distinctive.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 11:41 PM
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Thanks, this is an interesting discussion. Japan seems to be striking some odd balance. It preserves a largely patriarchal, shame-friendly model in opposition to the Western "I'm ok, you're ok" push. At the same time, the problems of male alienation and sexual dissatisfaction are if anything more pronounced than they are in the West. This is something that I think a lot of basic RP theory doesn't stretch to explain - 'traditional' cultural standards are still in place, but they aren't changing t…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 09:28 PM
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I think they have one other thing going for them - even as these behaviors become common, they're treated as embarrassing problems. There's still a good chunk of the society going "What the fuck? This is awful and it needs to change." and that's going to give them a foundation for making changes after the crash becomes extreme enough. The sort of slower, denial-heavy crash happening elsewhere seems more likely to completely strip away useful norms and habits for rebuilding. Apparently societies …
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 09:16 PM
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I honestly think this is a pretty limited view of Japan. They've maintained some pretty patriarchal, decency-centered standards, but urban Japanese life has a bunch of America's ailments taken to the extreme. Japan's male-disengagement rate makes the US look like a paradise of healthy, committed relationships - the entire hikikomori phenomenon would pass for mental illness in the states, and the rise of herbivore men is a much more overt abandonment of relationships than what we have here. Beyon…
/r/TheRedPill12/10/15 03:43 PM
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I totally recommend it. I'm sometimes frustrated by his writing style - the mix of pop culture, weird analogies, and clinical, thesaurus-laden word choices can make it really hard to get through on occasion. That said, I don't think he's consciously being difficult, and things like the Gervais Principle and his haggling guide have some really valuable observations. There's a lot of variation in how clinical he is, so maybe swap pieces if one is dragging on too much for you. I do sometimes have t…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/15 11:26 PM
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It's a pretty cool observation once you start seeing it at work. Total credit to the RibbonFarm guy (author of the powertalk stuff) for this article inspiring me on it.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/15 10:20 PM
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This is all strong advice, but I especially love your example about "get us drinks and I'll get us a table". Deference to context is a huge idea. There's an idea that negotiating is basically about building narratives - if you're haggling with someone, you each bring a story ("This is shoddy and cheap", "My kids need to eat") and use those narratives to arrive at a conclusion, rather than simple greedy negotiation. If you can offer a framework that the other person can't reject or escape, you en…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/15 05:28 PM
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It's not accidental that in the original stories Gautama Buddha arrived at emptiness by immersing himself in emotion and experience. Asceticism has value, but the people saying that TRP opposes Buddhism by preaching worldly success are oversimplifying rather badly. To my knowledge, there's no prohibition in Buddhism against passing satisfaction - against taking joy in meditation, or the day's meal, or the feeling of rain on your face. The problem is that satisfaction leads to desire, which leads…
/r/TheRedPill10/10/15 06:58 PM
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This is it. I'm not Jerry, but I still treat people well. I'm not Rick, so it's a necessity. None of us are massively, undeniably more right than anyone else, so we act decently to make up for our fuckups. None of that means that the only way ahead is to kiss asses. Plenty of massively successful people have never had to kiss ass, and would never be willing to. Brilliant is better than nice. Invaluable is better than nice. Nice can be replaced, so find something to be that's better than nice.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 11:17 PM
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I repeat, right is always acceptable if you're right enough. Not "right will get your promoted", not "right will make you friends", just "right works". Steve Jobs got his ass fired for being rude at Apple, wandered around depressed for a few years, then came back to be a world-shaking success. Right is not a license to succeed at everything you want to succeed at, right is something the universe respects more than nice. I'm nice because I'm not Rick - I'm not right to the world-shaking, undeniab…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 11:14 PM
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The Christmas one, Anatomy Park. The B plot is family dinner with Jerry's parents (and his mother's lover).
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 03:39 PM
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Add to that the quiet allusions to Jerry and pegging. As they get dropped off at marriage counseling, he has a background exchange with Beth about "My foot up your ass!" "You wish!", followed by her imagined version of him presenting its ass over and over again. It could have just been submissive posture, but real-Jerry specifically says "No, we're not doing any of that!" in response. Jerry's really working every part of the submissive circuit. edit: Just realized that even in the gay fantasy, S…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 03:38 PM
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The point about Beth is one that slipped by me watching the show. "The meseeks are like all those guys from high school." She was pregnant by prom night, but she'd already hooked up with a whole string of guys before that. And then she settles down with Jerry, who's "Once Brad is old and out of shape" line was one of the most excruciatingly honest things he's ever said.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 03:26 PM
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That was an absolutely brilliant quote. "Right" is always acceptable. If you have no faith that you're right, then "nice" is a fairly acceptable fallback. Since Rick is right, he gets to skip over all the fallbacks and insecurities.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 03:23 PM
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I think we're talking past each other. The thing I was describing as "batshit insane" isn't your suggestion that there's an incentive to prescribe SSRIs with little regard for side effects. I'll grant that. We disagree on how consistently bad SSRIs are, but the Paxil results are horrible and there's a lot of other poorly-resolved stuff on terrible SSRI side effects. Further, a lot of mass shooters were on or had been on SSRIs. I kept finding (on that site) that many shooters weren't on prescribe…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 03:12 PM
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Usage here aside, it's an inherently loaded phrase. Compare to "healthy cholesterol" - the inescapable implication is that the other kind is unhealthy.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/15 03:38 AM
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Yep, just saw the part about "therapy" over breakups. This looks a lot like a guy writing out a narrative that would justify all his shitty relationships. Between the claim that "kate" can't find short-term hookups and the idea that she's cripplingly sad about shooting down guys she's disgusted by? This is projection if I've ever seen it.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 04:26 PM
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Can we turn that last one into a good acronym? I swear there's a way to get it spelling either "cis" or "scum".
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 03:48 PM
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As proof that there's no level of parody that won't be matched someone sincere, I give you this. "Triggered by triggers" is a real thing at this point, as is "triggered by discussing triggering". So now that it's literally impossible to win, it's gotten even easier to excuse not trying to play the game!
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 03:46 PM
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Another interesting point: that paragraph about "no man wants a short relationship, I've looked" seems like strong evidence that this is either trolling or delusion. Men want hookups. Men want flings. Men want short relationships. None of those things should be hard to find, particularly if she looked at 'sleazy' guys. What men don't seem to want is short relationships where they're expected to behave like it's a long-term relationship. By (falsely) promising commitment, she gets a string of guy…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 03:27 PM
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Thanks for this. Attraction tends to fade over time, fine. That's how dopamine works. Long term relationships don't tend to endure happily unless both people focus on their own needs and development first, fine. Nothing you do will turn off hypergamy, fine. But none of that convinces me that one crazed addict in the comments of a blog is the new source for AWALT. This is like reading Freud: she says a few true things, then asserts that her own serious psychological issues are "the way of the wor…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 03:21 PM
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I've only been doing it occasionally, but I think this is going to push me over the edge. None of the effects are huge, but IF seems to offer a really wide range of minor benefits, and I've also found that I save time and feel more energetic doing it.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 02:52 PM
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So on one hand, there are some alarming stories about antidepressants and Paxil in particular. I don't deny that psych meds can have serious impacts on mental health, and may drive violence (I'm not going into method of action here, because it's unknown in the first place. SSRIs aren't making up for a serotonin shortage, so their effect is indirect and poorly specified.) That's entirely different than the claim that every mass shooter has been on prescription psychiatric medication as secret pro…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 05:46 AM
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Hang on, no. The classical explanation for suicidal behavior after taking antidepressants is that they elevate energy levels faster than they elevate emotions. The result is depressed people who suddenly have the energy to kill themselves. It's not lowered inhibitions, it's a change in activity levels enabling something you were already willing to do. If "too tired to kill yourself" sounds stupid, I assure you from a lot of personal conversations that it's not. But aside from any of that, the po…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 04:01 AM
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TRP trades aimless unhappiness for well-specified misery. This is progress. Taking the pill makes you feel like shit, but that's depressive realism talking. TRP tells you why you're unhappy. It tells you that things actually do suck, and that there's a way out. That feels far worse than a vague sensation of "Is this how things are supposed to be?" It's also far more resolvable. It's the difference between feeling vaguely sick, and finding out you have a curable cancer. Reality is scary and depre…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 03:00 AM
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Hey, we don't learn without suffering. Plenty of us never learn even with suffering, but every time he gets burned it's another opportunity to grow.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 02:50 AM
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Thanks for the intermittent fasting entry. I knew that was productive advice for energy levels and weight loss, but I had no idea it was tied to testosterone levels also.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 02:47 AM
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Can you give me even a shred of evidence for this? I don't mean to be a dick, but I've never seen the claim that every mass shooter has been on psychiatric meds. The claim that they ought to have been on meds, sure, but I've never seen the claim that they all are. I've seen copious evidence that they aren't, in fact. Your claim doesn't sound insane, it sounds provably false. Roof was self-medicated. Brievik was unmedicated. Holmes was mentally ill, but unmedicated. Rodgers was off his medication…
/r/TheRedPill07/10/15 02:27 AM
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That, and American dollars translate pretty well. He may have made up much of his loss via a favorable exchange rate, and if not it's just a sacrifice play.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 06:54 PM
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All debt and income incurred during the marriage, yes. It's an important distinction with regards to student debt, which people often arrive at the marriage already holding.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 06:52 PM
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The line about how important it is for culture and society to have strong families is especially funny. How dare those young men weaken the nation by refusing to enter into unhappy, unrewarding marriages? It feels a lot like a call for "corporate loyalty" to a faceless company that couldn't give a damn about the people it wants loyalty from. Young men are expected to sacrifice all personal outcomes to strengthen 'society', a nebulous concept which has repeatedly showed it's complete lack of appr…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 05:57 PM
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A search for "New York Times Modern Man" brings it up for me, and it was interesting enough that Slate wrote a commentary article mocking it. But yeah, definitely not print worthy.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 09:33 PM
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California does, technically, permit the use of guns in self-defense during a home invasion. To the best of my knowledge, all US states accept a self-defense claim in that case, although not all have the "Castle Doctrine". That doctrine basically says you don't have to retreat or try to hide from intruders in your home, and can shoot them even if you could have gotten away. However, these laws depend on the assumption that your life was in danger (since many home invasions are violent). Californ…
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 07:48 PM
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No joke - I'm almost certainly less good at fighting than the sort of person who resorts to robbing occupied houses, and I'm not going to start sleeping with a knife regardless. A gun doesn't put me in knife-range of whoever came into my house, and I'm actually competent with it. The reminder is always welcome, of course. Shoot to kill, out of fear for your life, in your home, and pray you don't live in California.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 06:45 PM
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That was insane to me. Not the anti-gun thing, this is the New York Times, but that they mentioned intruders in the same piece. I thought the party line was "crime rates are dropping, no one will break in, don't buy a gun", but then they go and tell me that I should expect to fight off intruders unarmed?
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 05:36 PM
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The reversed advice is so good (and the stated advice so freakishly specific) that it almost seems intentionally backwards. Taken literally, it's just just a guide to being a metrosexual loser with narcissistic assholes for children.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 05:34 PM
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This has to be a joke. Or am really that detached from what passes for modern culture? The modern man is pro-tears and anti-gun, but still sleeps near the door to fight intruders? He plugs in his wife's phone, like there's a chance in hell he pried it out of her fingers as she slept? (Or like there's a chance she didn't plug it in, and risked losing her precious Facebook connection?) An entire fucking sentence about sneezing while eating apple donuts? Is this a reference to something or just som…
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 05:32 PM
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The modern man buys his wife dead flowers, just to make sure she really knows how he feels.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 05:26 PM
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Despite that fact that, as per 16, A modern man sleeps closer to the door to fight off intruders. So I guess it's not that a gun would never be useful, it's just that he personally isn't capable of using it.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 05:25 PM
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I'm still not 100% on whether it is... Am I that far gone from the New York Times reading society? This shoe-obsessing, phone-charging modern man also listens to Wu Tang once a week? Is that an Office Space joke, or is this somehow supposed to make sense? And he'll never need a gun, but sleeps near the door to fight off intruders? This has to be a joke, or just insane rambling.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 05:24 PM
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It'll be interesting to see whether that changes as she ages. It's not like the effeminate boy-band thing is new - 40 years ago she might have had Boy George on her wall. My perception has always been that those guys are 'safe' options for girls just turning into women. If you're too young to be fully sexual, you aren't going to go "I want a bodybuilder to fuck me through the wall", you're going to have 'crushes' on pretty guys who are sexually nonthreatening. Arguably this is the same pattern t…
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 03:13 PM
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Hilariously, Ed Sheeran is at this point the masculine example in mainstream music. He might be a cool guy, but when that's the most assertive, male voice you hear on the radio? That's fucking sad. It used to be Flea, Henry Rollins, or Joe Strummer.
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 03:08 PM
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It's funny - that's the observation that constantly gets labeled "nice guy", but it's not an entitlement thing. It's not "I'm so nice, why doesn't Susie love me?", it's "Why does Susie love the guy who cheats on her and calls her a cunt every day?"
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 03:00 PM
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Long before I ended up on TRP, it already seemed to me like "be yourself" was incredibly cruel advice to give unhappy people. I already am myself, that's the fucking problem. If being yourself makes you so depressed you're considering suicide, then maybe the right advice isn't "keep doing that until you end up in a mental hospital". Maybe, just maybe, it would be smarter to help people find a way of life they're happy with. Help them overcome some of the problems in their lives that are making t…
/r/TheRedPill01/10/15 02:57 PM
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I almost hate to do this, but what he's describing is approximately Neoreaction. You can check it out on the (angsty-teenager filled) sub Dark Enlightenment, or many other places on the internet. It's a political-historical movement. It has a lot of interesting, legitimate historical points about how we misrepresent Western civilization and attack it for flaws that appear in other cultures too. It also has a lot of policy prescriptions for the future, ranging from the sensible (maybe rule-by-shr…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 05:38 PM
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An interesting argument on the Eastern Mysticism thing: the Eastern religion we see in the West is superior to Western religion, because of sample bias.1 We built up 10,000 years of our own blood-soaked, hypocrisy-laden religions, while East Asia did the same with their religions. Then, in the last ~50 years, we showed up and said "Hey, give us your ten best documents from the last ten millennia." It turns out that if you cherry-pick the absolute best teachings of Buddha, Moses, Confucius, or Je…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 05:34 PM
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Again, read. First, 'men' is not 'man'. Telling me "if most men stopped doing this it would stop!" is basically just defining the tragedy of the commons. The Nash Equilibrium is for everyone to defect - changing my behavior in isolation doesn't change the overall outcome. Second, this is discussed extensively in the side bar and highly upvoted posts. TRP is not about fixing the world. It is consciously, actively, not about fixing the world. It's about improving personal outcomes for those who re…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 04:52 PM
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Read. Read the sidebar, read the top posts, read. Very briefly, there are two reasons. Tragedy of the commons. No one man using Tinder is reshaping the world, so why shouldn't he get laid? Pursuit isn't acquisition. Men seeking women by any means available isn't something new, so it's silly to blame Tinder for hypergamy. It might speed up sluttiness, but its a symptom of change in sexual standards, not a cause. Look at the birth control pill, third wave feminism, and a bunch of other social forc…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 04:25 PM
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Basic photo manip is great, but unless you're doing some very specific style I would say keep it subtle. Up your contrast a little if the shadows aren't dark, up/drop your exposure if your background isn't looking how you want it to. A little hdr can be fine, but it's really easy to head into ShittyHDR territory with that. My usual rule is that unless you have a 'look' in mind, the best editing is the stuff no one will realize you've done.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 04:21 PM
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One easy way to not put that in the picture is to get an action shot. If you're lifting someone, chopping wood, or carrying some shit, your arms are likely to be across your chest quite naturally. Plus, people who bitch about 'shirtless pics' are likely to give you a pass if you were shirtless in context.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 04:19 PM
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Just remember: almost all hookup decisions are exclusive. She runs into something she doesn't like and kicks you off her prospect list. Given that, the importance of appearance makes sense. It may not be more 'important' than game, but clothes and physique are the first two signals she gets about you. Don't let them disqualify you before you open your mouth.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/15 04:16 PM
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Congratulations on a good first step, and on not going back over to them. Outcome independence is king, and you got what you needed from the experience: proof that you can cold approach and be openly sexual without some catastrophe happening. I think that there's a lot to be said for going out, talking to women, and then just leaving. Don't fixate on one person or make any effort to take someone home. It helps you avoid getting outcome-obsessed and freezing up, and the best way to practice conve…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 05:48 PM
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11) "Can you define narcissism?" 12) "Can you define narcissism in a way that doesn't make you a textbook example?"
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 09:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure these women get start in high school, if not sooner. I've known girls who literally made decisions by listing "pros" and "cons", then picking whichever side had more items on it. Decisions like what to major in or who to date. It's 'cute' and 'funny' right up until it becomes 'psychotic' and 'unstable'. It's some freakish combination of extreme self-absorption and a desire to avoid agency. Making choices is hard, so I'll count up lines written or check boxes filled until I have a…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 09:33 PM
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That interview would have been less embarrassing if she'd dropped the pretense and straight-up licked him. Great observation on the false equivalence here. We can't say this is a problem with women's behavior, because that's sexist. Instead, it's a gender-neutral issue that just happens to be affecting women because they're so much smarter and more successful. All of which completely ignores the studies showing that men date down across education boundaries far more than women do.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 02:00 AM
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Thatcher verged on being a literal psychopath. A whole lot of stereotypical "feminine" patterns vanish when you're completely detached from other people's emotions or desires, and it turns out that a lot of near-psycopaths make excellent leaders.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 12:30 AM
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Fantastic observation about the adjectives people use for her. "Charismatic and glamorous" really is "effective and visionary" minus the actual achievements.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/15 12:28 AM
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This is why there are so many guys going "we opened our relationship, and now she's banging Chad and I still can't get any!" It's a topic she wouldn't ever raise without a clear line on who she's going to go fuck if you say yes.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 09:57 PM
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There was a thread on this topic that opened my eyes to just how utterly crap the relationships sub is. It was some woman crying her eyes out about how she asked her fiance for an open relationship and he kicked her to the curb. All the responses were "How dare he, you were only asking!" No one seemed to be able to make the leap to "if she asked this, she was already dissatisfied and considering sleeping around". That's not one of those things that counts as "just talking" when someone brings it…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 09:55 PM
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She wanted him to be better at it because he said he would teach her. Think back to the last time you had a crappy teacher - someone fumbling through the stuff they were supposed to be capable of educating out on. It's incredibly annoying, and I say that without regard for gender or sexual strategy. It just sucks to learn from someone who isn't competent. Being bad at pool wasn't a turn-on, obviously, but being good wouldn't have helped much more. It's pool. It's sexier than being awesome at Hal…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 03:57 PM
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It's also worth noting that he actively set her up to be annoyed by his crappy pool skills. It's the sort of thing that could be cute if you're just shooting a round of pool for something to do. Even guys who have no TRP instincts can do this: "Just a warning, I suck at pool." "Me too, it'll be fun!" And then that transitions into contact, flirting, and generally ignoring the actual pool game. This guy promised to teach her. The date was a 'learn pool from me' date because he made it one. I'd be…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/15 03:45 PM
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They didn't say anything to get banned, it was struck by automoderator.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 06:59 PM
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How do we make money off of this? Well, I suggest 'informal' male spaces. Obviously the words "Men's Club" are grounds for protest, but as you say, feminism is changing its battle lines. There are some things it can no longer stand against directly. Perhaps a space to counsel men about body image issues - a space with a good barber and some weight lifting equipment. Perhaps a space to give men strong role models - tutoring by men for men, and masculine experiences in the vein of Big Brothers. Th…
/r/TheRedPill23/09/15 05:29 AM
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Aside from any gender issues, I'm disgusted by the hideous abuse of actual medicine. I can't find a single example of a teen running into serious health issues from gym-induced protein overconsumption. This is pure demagoguery, abusing every shred of evidence, logic, and science to arrive at the predefined conclusion. The utter absurdity of blaming gyms for male body image issues is also jarring. After acknowledging that men today lack role models and a place in the world, she suggests that ment…
/r/TheRedPill23/09/15 05:12 AM
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Spare me. I'm fully aware that Louis CK is nothing to admire, but it doesn't mean he can't be funny - the joke is how much he hates himself. If nothing else, his piece about getting a half-hearted handjob from his wife next to their kid's crib is great motivation to not be him. He's full of ultra-liberal bullshit, but so are most artists/comedians/etc. None of that means middle class white people are jumping to become urban blacks. This is about narratives and cultural consciousness, not the det…
/r/TheRedPill22/09/15 05:23 AM
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Of course there are tracks for every race and ethnicity, and of course they have big similarities. None of that is counter to my point. My point, specifically, is that young white women have one of the most liberating, accessible tracks, and older white women suddenly get confined onto fewer, less accessible tracks than a lot of other groups. That 25 year old Chinese woman has a shitty track, granted. Traditional Indians in the US often have it even worse, because they have to married in ethnici…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 09:43 PM
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Heh, personal fights also take away the moral edge. Shaming you for 'sexist' or 'creepy' views is admirable, but insisting "I'm as hot as she is!" doesn't have any moral high ground to it.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 03:22 PM
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I think one driving force for this is that the standard narrative for white women doesn't have a place for anyone who's single and 40+. We all tend to play roles based on what culture and media encourage us to do. The roles we learn tend to be closely tied to race, gender, and age. Lots of the time, this sucks - the narrative for young black men is incredibly harmful, and even people who aren't living it are hurt by the general assumption that they will. In general, the narratives for white peop…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 03:20 PM
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Thanks! I should have mentioned that in my reply, I'm glad you did - it is a volume increase, but you have to measure over a shorter time span to see it.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 02:23 PM
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The general rule promoted on places like r slash fitness calls for "strength first", bulking before you cut no matter what. I think that's wrong for you. Losing weight is harder the further you have to go (you build up more fat cells, among many other hurdles), and you see more side effects and maintenance issues (e.g. skin sag if you're cutting super fast). If you cut first, you can avoid all that. You can improve form and refine a diet no matter what your calorie balance is, and a lot of the e…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 04:31 AM
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So I'm not OP, but the answer is that this isn't more volume if you keep the sets x reps the same. It still works, though. Volume is king, especially for beginners, but it's not the only thing you can work towards. Decreasing rest is another way of increasing intensity. If you're moving the same rep count into fewer steps, you're putting more intense demands on your muscles, which is the absolute core of gains. But yes, from what I know you're right, and it threw me off also coming right after "…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 04:19 AM
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If so, that was very poorly put. There's definitely an argument for choosing real sugar over corn syrup, but even that's a second-order effect at best. I haven't seen evidence that 100 calories of one beats 100 calories of the other, only evidence that you're more likely to end up eating excess calories from corn syrup consumption.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 07:46 PM
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Number one I've never heard anywhere, and several of the other subcomments (like crystal sugar) read like gibberish.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 04:12 PM
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Also the crystal sugar thing, which looks like utter bullshit unless someone has an excellent source.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 04:11 PM
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I recommend checking out GayLubeOil's post Your Brand of Alpha (currently on the TRP front page). You don't have to be the life of the party, you just have to be passionate in some domain where you meet women. Skill and expertise are attractive - at a party that means being smooth and social, but showing passion for cooking, working out, or even art is incredibly attractive if you do it right. Parties are obviously an efficient place to meet and impress women, but they aren't a requirement.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 04:03 PM
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You've never used one of these suckers on a stubborn dish? Not on Teflon obviously, but on other badly stuck-on bits of food.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 03:06 PM
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Constantino, notably, wasn't even setting his heart on getting laid. He didn't need abundance mentality, he just cared far more about cooking dinner than how his hookup was going.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 03:08 AM
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Cast iron is genuinely different to cook on for two reasons. First, it's thick and monometallic, so it'll heat up evenly and won't cool down no matter what you throw in. Great for frying and searing. Second, seasoning. A new cast iron pan isn't special. When you cook with it, though, you don't wash it clean. You just wipe out any food residue and get it hot enough to sanitize. With every use, it builds up a layer of seasoning that's basically cooked-sanitary fat and oil. This adds flavor to ever…
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 03:03 AM
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I could give a shit how much of a mess gets made as long as I don't have to clean it up. Don't break anything, produce something good, and clean the fuck up.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 02:49 AM
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Gyms are expensive, fine. I'm willing to pay for that shit, but if you can't or don't that's not a fucking excuse. A set of barbells or a $20 slegehammer can make you look better than half the people in your average gym, all from the comfort of your home. If you care enough to be fit, you will end up fit. Simple as that.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 02:48 AM
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There's one example of this that I constantly notice in the real world. A group of people will be on some topic, and a group member (let's call him Jim) will open his mouth to tell some story about it. He won't be the first one to speak, though, and by the time there's a quiet moment, the topic of conversation has completely changed. All too often, Jim will just tell his story anyway. Sometimes he'll lead with "But like we were saying," and sometime he'll just start rambling with his off-topic b…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 07:25 PM
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Briffault's Law doesn't come up as often as a lot of other sidebar ideas, but when it does it's bulletproof. Years of employment and support aren't meaningless, but they only matter in terms of what they imply about his future prospects. Since he was blindsided by the layoff, and is now collapsing and uncertain about his future, she has to assume that those past events are not strong predictors of the future. I mean, he cried for the first time, so clearly everything she knows about him is suspe…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 06:26 PM
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The quote opanchor replied to was Sun Tzu, which you would think makes fairly clear that fighting back (not with fists, duh) is sometimes a legitimate option. Self-knowledge is about acting to produce results, rather than to satisfy your emotions.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 04:00 PM
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This is depressing and hilarious to me. There aren't a lot of female programmers, but the ones I know would be incensed about this. The way to bring women into programming isn't to mock the skilled, dedicated women who already do it with shit like this.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 03:24 PM
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Wait, check out his username. Surrenderedknife? Fucking really? Exactly what does he think is "edgy" about committing relationship suicide?
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 08:42 PM
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More relevant to this example, no captains steering the ship means your ship founders and sinks within a day.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 08:41 PM
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In a case like this I have to be totally on the woman's side. She grew up pursuing what she was taught to want: equality and independence. Not just equal rights and freedoms, but and equally masculine lifestyle. She was unhappy, didn't know why, and then found a guide to something that would make her happy. To her enormous credit, she didn't put it down and go "misogyny!", she thought about it and decided what she wanted. Then, instead of jumping ship, she urged her man to make changes that woul…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 08:40 PM
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Being passive isn't necessarily a problem - it's a godsend when you get asked things like "which of these drapes should we buy?" This guy, though, isn't "passive", he's dickless. He can't seem to tell the difference between choosing where to go for dinner and being a radical agent of the patriarchy.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 08:32 PM
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It's definitely a player, and I touch on it a little later in what I wrote. My opinion, given how divorce and labor force participation rates have moved, is that things were headed in the increased-divorce direction before no-fault divorce became standard. Working women had a reasonable expectation of getting by without the poverty and social stigma of unemployed divorce, and that was enough for them to try trading up. When I look at no fault-divorce, I see an explanation for another, later tren…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 08:26 PM
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Quick primer and some leads. (I'm going to avoid citing men's rights stuff, simply because I think you can draw sensible conclusions from sources you'd be willing to show your mother.) Elizabeth Warren of all people wrote a book called The Two-Income Trap. It's basically a discussion of how doubling every family's income didn't improve the situation of working families. It behaves exactly like you'd expect - workforce size increases (by about 40%, I did the math once and it wasn't anywhere near …
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 06:12 PM
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I have trouble judging her for that - it looks like she was pretty much a pro-equality modern woman and just came around to a realization of what she wants. She just hasn't shed the urge to talk things out yet, and from how this went that's probably next.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 05:37 PM
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She's seemingly the good, decent woman TRP sometimes gets really skeptical about finding. He has some redeeming trait (even if it's just that breakups are a hassle) that she'd like to see as part of a good man, and she's trying to make him one. He fucked up so badly that even with a literal fucking guidebook, he can't get anywhere. Notice that he's not even sure of the name of the book - he was too stupid to go read the thing and see what his wife was on about.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 05:34 PM
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Holy shit. That's fucking hilarious. It's TRP on super-easy mode. She's practically stapling his nuts back on for him, and he's screaming "No, stop!" His mistake wasn't even buying into feminism. If he became a 'feminist' in the "do what women say" sense, he'd be fine, because he'd listen to his woman when she tells him to be a man. No, he went one step further and believed all the dumbest ideas feminism says. Now he's got a strong, independent woman telling him to be a man and he's lecturing he…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 05:31 PM
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As much as I don't like him, I'll give Trump credit for saying very nearly that. He got a fairly in depth question about the Iranian Quds Force, completely flubbed it, and then answered "The day after the election, I'll know more about it than you ever will."
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 02:26 PM
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And still made him Mr. Universe. How times change.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 02:23 PM
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He's an absolute legend. Here's a great story about him and Michael Caine in their broke-but-sexy days: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/158913/Michael-Caine-s-hooked-on-007
/r/TheRedPill15/09/15 12:00 AM
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I don't quite agree with that summary of Trump. What you say matters hugely, at least in terms of whether you respond to the question. Virtually all interviews with 'controversial' figures are conducted in "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" fashion - questions are framed so that any direct response loses. You can challenge the assertion and be accused of evading, reject the challenge and be lying or stonewalling, or accept it and be confessing. Trump's mastery is his absolute unwillingnes…
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 11:59 PM
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Thanks very much for this. I think better use of corporals and lance corporals (which in some cases could mean less but more effective use) is something TRP can benefit significantly from. An understanding of these patterns might also help stop the mod-inconveniencing influx of "guess what I just learned!" posts. There are a lot of guys getting their first promotion, and, in the eternal tradition of new brass, deciding to lecture everyone on what they learned. It's unhelpful not because their kn…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 09:39 PM
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And Elodrian didn't say he is. It's a common 'code' that OP brought up for discussion, and Elodrian specifically responded to that as one example of a code not worth holding.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 06:06 PM
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There's a game that's pretty satisfying to play with anyone who has an "uncompromisable" standard. Let's call it "What about two of that?" You would never hit a woman? Ok, do it or my friend here is going to hit her twice. You would never steal? Take a $20 out of that lost wallet or I'm taking the whole thing. And so on. It doesn't even take any imagination to break most codes, just an acceptance of reality. You can always come up with some situation where breaking the code preserves your values…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 06:04 PM
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I love the BP rant there. He's bitching about "red piller bullshit", then whining about how he keeps getting ditched after two months of dating for a better guy.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 05:34 PM
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Much of TRP can be simplified down to that observation with very little loss. Women aren't satisfied by victories or concessions because they weren't trying to win in the moment, they were trying to establish your merits.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 10:43 PM
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He came so damn close. He recognized that there was a sexual power struggle and a lot of men were losing it, then decided that instead of participating he would appeal to 'fairness' to somehow solve the conflict. Twenty thousand other people managed to work out that saying "be nice!" isn't going to end a power struggle.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 10:25 PM
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You caught something important about that EMSK post. It wasn't like most anti-RP rants, because he actually had some understanding of what he was talking about. Rather than just screaming "misogynists that way!" he actually attacked TRP for some things it does say. That's also why it didn't go the way he wanted. He looked through the door, and turned back to tell everyone else about the evils he saw there. A lot of other people (myself included) shrugged and decided that not looking wasn't going…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 10:12 PM
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The first big lesson I got out of TRP was that resenting people who take from you doesn't mean a god damn thing. That feeling of "How dare he, that's not right!" might be satisfying, but it carries no weight. There's no court of appeals willing to hear your whining about how you were the good guy. You can go be another bad guy, you can avoid getting suckered next time, you can even declare war on whoever hurt you and try to make the world a better place. No matter what, though, the world will on…
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 10:07 PM
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That line about "it's good your ex cheated on you" should be a dealbreaker for pretty much any relationship. I don't give a shit if you hang out on TRP, TwoX, or anywhere else, it doesn't take grand redpill principles to see. That's a level of evil that no one should stay in a house with.
/r/TheRedPill10/09/15 04:52 PM
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This is a specific, important case of a larger idea. Promises and commitments are reflections of the speaker's current mindset. They're only as good as the speaker's chance of not changing their mind, or choosing to honor an agreement they no longer like. For a relationship, staying in an unhappy arrangement based on past promises isn't a good outcome, so it's even worse. All you can do is say "so she likes me now, how's that going to change?" And yes, getting commitment from her as a payment fo…
/r/TheRedPill08/09/15 04:22 PM
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This is a thing to remember throughout life. There are people who hit every note right raising their kids, but some factor they didn't see or couldn't control leaves them with disobedient hellions. There are people who improve their skills, work hard, and get shot down from their dream job because the interviewer forgot which candidate had which name. No matter how well you do, you can get screwed by things you can't control. Be prepared to accept failure, no matter how certain you are that you …
/r/TheRedPill08/09/15 04:09 PM
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Notably she's not saying "guys get turned off by my past", so she's either lying about her history or finding guys willing to deal with it. Instead, she's asking why all the guys she meets leave her after a short while - from the sound of it, she brings nothing to the table in terms of personality, and then makes sexual requests they have no interest in.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/15 09:03 PM
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I think you're nailing it. Her story isn't "men are turned off by my partner count", because in that case the answer would be as simple as "lie about it". Her question is "How do I become someone men want to stay with?" She's showing up to dates, saying nothing interesting, and then asking if her friend Chad can come fuck her while her date watches. That's not about partner count, it's about not having any traits worth being around.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/15 09:02 PM
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Actually, women do this quite often when they give the advice to "just be yourself," or that "there is someone for everyone." More subtly, every movie where the fat loser gets a girl by learning to embrace his fat loser personality sends this message. This is one of those weird points where feminism and TRP end up on the same side of an issue. When feminists criticize movies for using women as "rewards" for the hero, they're taking aim at the same patterns TRP attacks when we say "No, you aren't…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/15 08:59 PM
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TEDx talks are so often a disaster that it's not worth associating them with the main brand.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 06:04 PM
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This is a solid point. The biggest piece of fanservice in Casino Royale was bond coming out of the water. Bond is a macho fantasy, but there's a reason the refined, dapper "want to be him" Bonds were replaced with a rough-but-handsome "want to fuck him" Bond. This is a decision that sells to a new demographic, because they can trust that men will see anything with the Bond name on it no matter what.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 06:01 PM
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The thing that kills me is that in the Craig movies, Bond isn't even a good person. He's a cold-blooded murderer, he leaves allies and sexual partners alike to die, and he oozes psychological trauma. He's not doing his job because he's a hero, he's doing it because he's bitter about his childhood and he's desperately trying to prove to his faux parents that he deserves love. The movies spell all that out in detail, over and over again. Bond wears young women the way he wears expensive watches - …
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 05:59 PM
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I thought (a sane) feminist narrative was pretty well served in Skyfall, actually. M was an older woman, respected for her skills instead of her looks, and she was both Bond's ruthless superior and his confidante. She died bravely and in service of her country. Moneypenny was young, attractive, and talented, but never actually slept with Bond despite his interest. Pretty good for a Bond movie, I'd say. Apparently that doesn't cut it, though, because Bond didn't sleep with her. "Don't sexualize s…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 05:52 PM
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Eminem wrote Kim, and Canada tried to bar him from entering the country over it. This isn't a new pattern when wrappers write scary lyrics.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 05:48 PM
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As unpleasant as this is, I don't think it's right to portray it as something new. Canada tried to bar Eminem from entering the country in 2000, for essentially the same reasons. France shuts down Dieudonne's performances any time they can find an excuse. Tyler talks about video games being censored next, but Australia's been banning any game that looks bloody for quite some time now. They sell American Psycho under plastic wrap and tried to ban small-breasted porn stars! So no, I don't think th…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 05:47 PM
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I should note that she also got a lot of praise from other upper-middle-class pseudo-feminists like Naomi Wolf. Since she's too rich to actually need her ideas to work, she apparently decided to keep on fighting the good fight.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 03:05 PM
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More people should know this. Not only was infant mortality high, but disease and random death make up the rest of the gap, not quick aging. Maybe your grandmother lived to 75, but you caught the plague and died at 22. Or maybe you were poor and someone sacked your farm in late fall, so you starved to death in the winter. If none of that shit happened (and if you were a chivalry-practicing noble, it probably didn't), you could reasonably aim to come within a decade of how long we live now.
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 03:03 PM
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This is what made Sandberg's book so agonizingly bad, and brought political mortal enemies together to attack it. A lot of her stated goals were totally reasonable - ensure that women get a fair shot at leadership roles, share the burden of childcare for the benefit of both parents and children, have couples consciously distribute chores based on time demands. But... she's a rich white woman in tech, and she's never worked an honest job in her life (the closes she ever came was 'management consu…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/15 02:58 PM
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No (or maybe, but if so they stole from what I'm referencing). Sheryl Sandberg, COO of Facebook and wife of the (now deceased) Dave Goldberg wrote a book called Lean In. It basically said that there are a bunch of institutional barriers to female success in business (the glass ceiling) and argued that working women are superheroes for caring for kids while working. It went on to encourage women to fight to break down these barriers and seek leadership positions, because once there are some more …
/r/TheRedPill02/09/15 10:58 PM
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They're Leaning InTM further than anyone else!
/r/TheRedPill02/09/15 09:52 PM
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As always, personal responsibility is the question here. If you carry a pad to help out your partner or just a person in need, that's preparedness. If you pressure everyone else to do so or face shame, that's control and attention seeking.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/15 09:46 PM
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It was a thing that had very little in common with it's modern meaning, and it worked fine for what it was used for. Chivalry was a military code of honor that was less widespread in time, space, and society than people assume today. Chivalry was restricted to knights (a tiny, land-owning fraction of the soldiery) and later courtiers, and concerned itself with duties to the church, the country, and the less well-off, typically in that order. Most of chivalry had nothing to do with women, and was…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/15 09:44 PM
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There's nothing wrong with declining to make a decision (say, because there isn't yet enough information). Showing up in someone else's conversation to go "Hi, I have no opinion on this matter!" is asinine and pointless, though.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 10:21 PM
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This seems like the specific case of the general "easy out" pattern. Criticize someone's behaviors, then offer them a branch to grab hold of that will make the criticism go away. On a personal level, this usually means saying "your behavior is wrong, but I'll bet it's the fault of person X". Then your target gets to say "Oh my, that person X filled my head with all kinds of bad ideas, now I'll fix my behavior". They avoid disagreement or being wrong as long as they switch to the behavior you wan…
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 10:16 PM
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Thanks - I really don't buy the idea that it's somehow alpha to undermine the successes of others without a good reason. Insecurity shows, and it gets in the way of learning from the best skills of others.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 06:03 PM
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I saw that exchange, it was disgusting. He wrote this long, sensitive explanation of why using pedophilia claims as a weapon is deeply fucked up and people should stop since it hurts the victims of actual pedophiles. The response was "How dare you talk down to her and make this about you? You should have addressed her feelings, not defended yourself against accusations of being a child molester." We are somehow at a point where it's inappropriate to say "No, I'm not a molester, don't call me tha…
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 04:50 PM
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That said, status is status. Ray Rice could have had a dozen women at his door the day after that video came out, because money and power still beat anything else.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 04:47 PM
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There's not much else it can be if you just see the car. You have no proof that they're an asshole until you meet them. All you actually know is that they've got a way better ride than you.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 04:41 PM
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Your point about not being the center of attention touches on a pattern I've seen a lot. In a room full of people, there will be some guy in the center of things talking loudly and telling jokes. People are paying attention to him, sure, but after each joke a few (women's) heads will turn to face some other, quieter guy. They're looking to see if he has some clever extra quip, or even just to follow along with the strength of his reaction. He's the one in control of the room. It's not about how …
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 04:36 PM
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I think this is wildly overselling a good idea. Overreacting to things is bad whether your reaction is positive or negative. Further, responding to someone else's abilities with shock implies your own inability. Beyond that, though... acting unimpressed when you shouldn't just looks stupid. If someone does something truly remarkable, don't be the guy going "Oh, I could do that. I just don't feel like it." He's not alpha, he's an insecure jerk who can't let anyone else be better than him at anyth…
/r/TheRedPill01/09/15 04:34 PM
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No, I just couldn't give a shit. I read about Snapchat's last big funding round, it was just never worth knowing who the founder was. The same goes for Instagram, Vine, and every other narcissism-driven waste product of the Valley for the last couple years. Now I know Evan Spiegel because he hooked up with a celebrity and made the news from a new direction. No idea if it'll help him, but it's a change. He's not a repeat winner like Thiel or a tech commentator like Musk, so he gets to do the tabl…
/r/TheRedPill29/08/15 12:52 AM
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Did you know the name Evan Spiegel 20 minutes ago? I didn't, and I've read read essays he's written about Snapchat. This moves him from "rich Valley guy" to "rich celebrity people know". Assuming he doesn't marry her, that might actually be a valuable trade for him - so what if it costs him $10 million in the process?
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 08:57 PM
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Club dancing is a good skill too, no question. I think it's less notable though. People react to good dancing of that style with "Hey, he's pretty good", but women will sit and talk to each other about the fact that a guy does 'formal' dance. That, and clubs for things like salsa generally make it so easy to pair up with a dance partner that the approach and touch barriers don't exist at all.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 08:38 PM
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If you're a good dancer, that probably totally overrules the height thing. Change my example to something like "formal events where she's going to wear heels". Now that I think more about it, dancing is probably a great skill if you're not that tall. It demonstrates coordination, confidence, and physical adeptness - which are things that "short" tends to drive skepticism about. If you do any kind of non-club dancing like salsa or foxtrot, that's a fantastic date/event/meetup. I've never met a gi…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 05:21 PM
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These are all good plays, and you're right that "six feet" is a way lower risk play. (Similarly, I'd probably play fewer games with "so what do you do?" if I were a billionaire fighter pilot. There's just no point when the truth works so well.) This is a pretty solid demo of text game, I think. OP showed the "small win" - she knows his intentions and wants to meet up, which is the most you can really get through a phone. He needs real life game to seal the deal, but less of it because he set up …
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 03:43 PM
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If you're taller than her round up a bit, she probably can't tell. If you aren't, or don't know whether you are, it's good game time. Ask her height instead of answering, redirect the question, tease her, or whatever. A lot of women have very firm no shortguy rules (although 5'8" isn't so bad). Dressing well and being fit and proportionate buys you some wiggle room. It can also help to avoid visceral comparisons of height - sit at a bar instead of going dancing, no need to remind her that you're…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 02:19 PM
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Not if he wants sex, cause weight is a nuclear topic (if you use it that directly). Height is a shittest you can pass just by being tall - good game is only needed if you aren't.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 02:15 PM
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This right here. Weight is nuclear, and especially since he's a "good" height there's no reason to shoot back. He had already passed the shit test just by being tall, so why give a fuck about smart remarks?
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 02:14 PM
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As an extension of "knowledge is valuable", know how and why you're anti-gun if you are. There are real arguments for gun regulations that really increase public safety. These are almost never the arguments you hear discussed. To the pro-gun side: 'Assault weapon' is a meaningless term that bans modifications, not weapons. Will the lack of a flash suppressor really stop a mass shooting? Most purchases involve background checks even in the case of (legal) private sales. The gun show loophole is r…
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 02:11 PM
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I'm going to take these in inverse order. Yes, I agree, love is just chemicals, we're all sacks of meat blindly responding to stimuli, etc. My point was that it's silly to uniquely write off a woman's love for her kids because it's chemically driven. Male (and female) romantic love works like an opiate addiction, so it's hardly fair to set up a contrast between "real" love and "chemical" love. I'll look for a source on the sacrifice thing. It's stupidly difficult to observe observer bias (and ev…
/r/TheRedPill26/08/15 12:29 AM
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I think this gives a bit of short shrift to motherhood. It's reasonable to argue that it's a short-term operation because motherhood starts with short-term duties. Dad's are hugely important over the long term, but mothers generally do more of the minute-to-minute, upfront work, and they probably are better at it than men. Under the 'traditional' model, Dad is free to think about finances and weddings because Mom is making sure that Junior doesn't come down with a bad case of SIDS. She's giving …
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 05:17 PM
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This is well worth noting. The stereotype of the hardworking but absentee father exists for a reason. Kids (especially boys) are more likely to see strong empathy and emotional support from their mothers, but more likely to learn outward-facing skills and lessons from their fathers. I don't buy the assertion about mothers not loving their families based on this - they're generally operating at higher-empathy baselines than men (due to both socialization and brain differences) and increased stres…
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 05:02 PM
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So... interesting topic. I disagree with the 'base' TRP outlook on that one, but I do agree that men and women can't be the same type of friends that two men can be. Gender does fundamentally alter the relationship. The big question is presumably how men and women can be friends. The easy-to-defend case is the Westermarck effect, which basically says that children who grow up together don't develop sexual attractions to each other. It's theorized to be an anti-incest pattern (since separated fam…
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 05:34 AM
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Hmm, this is really interesting. I don't mean to overstate my case - men/boys definitely feel and suppress the urge to cry sometimes. That said, I've found that the frequency of that urge has declined with age, and is less powerful than it used to be. Certainly "just as easily" doesn't reflect my experience, and I would hate the social pressure to not cry if it did. I'm pretty ignorant on this topic, but I'm inclined to suspect that this reaction and identified gender are related. Going from the…
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 05:19 AM
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It's fascinating how dangerous 'sorry' has become in legal domains. It's not just a problem for doctors - it's an admission of fault in traffic accidents, and is one of a dozen words that can ruin to a self-defense claim. "Never apologize" is actually a powerful rule to use any time you're dealing with questions of real fault or authority issues. And yes, Obama is brilliant with this. As much as he's hated and condemned, he casually redirects and maintains frame past all kinds of issues. Comment…
/r/TheRedPill13/08/15 08:06 PM
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This is obviously not an absolute rule - I can't charge infinity dollars for any product, there is a price at which any given buyer drops out. What's interesting is that this ever works. Introductory economics says that raising prices should never increase units sold, and costly signaling/conspicuous consumption can only carry the explanation so far. Beyond that, you have to resort to imperfect information and the illusion of value.
/r/TheRedPill13/08/15 02:49 PM
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If there's no top-level post on this topic, I think it's well worth making one. Most of us agree that children have some amount of 'intrinsic' value - they have potential, so they're inherently worthwhile. We appreciate them even when they aren't useful, and we don't hold them accountable for their actions. "Adulthood", under this framework, is the stage where society gives up on your intrinsic value. You're asked to show external proof of value to be considered important. For men, that's somewh…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:46 PM
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I'll grant this, but I think that's partly a result of the fact that most people have never heard the idea framed that way. There's strong pressure to say that women behave with full responsibility at the same age as men, in which case the loss of 'privilege' is just "now my life is worse for reasons I can't control". Think of the stereotypes of old, wise women (and old femme fatales, who derive their sexuality from knowledge and self-improvement rather than nature). These are women who understa…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:37 PM
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This is the fascinating thing. Women who argue that there aren't 'innate' gender differences portray the lack of tears from men as a result of social pressure. It's a shitty argument, because men will cry publicly over emotional pain, and won't cry privately over physical pain. Even with no witnesses, they're more likely to react to physical pain with aggression than tears. I've never heard a man make the same argument, because they've felt that lack of urge to cry.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:30 PM
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This is a much more accurate framing than "boys are shamed into not crying". Boys who cry are shamed, but it's because crying is evidence of youth and immaturity. That's where we get the pattern of young boys wanting to try, but "fighting back tears". The lack of tears from men doesn't follow the same pattern. Men aren't expertly fighting back tears, they aren't feeling the urge to cry. Negative emotions in men tend to be felt in other ways. Kids who try not to cry are affecting the behaviors of…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:26 PM
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I hadn't noticed this difference in framing. It gets to the real meaning of the phrase "women and children", which had always seemed like an odd grouping. I supposed this is something that we lost with the decline of manhood rituals. For a long time we had formal transitions to delineate this transition, whether they were rituals to gain access to male spaces (e.g. hunting lodges) or departures from home to take on male roles (e.g. apprenticeships). College served some of this purpose, but that'…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:20 PM
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First, huge credit to Norah Vincent for actually investigating her beliefs. That's the difference between a journalist and a whiner. Second, the difference between acceptance and emotional connection is a fascinating one. Men accept each other and "live and let live" in the face of anything that isn't abhorrent. But, they don't reveal emotions to anyone but their family or closest friends. Women share emotions and console each other constantly, but later wield those revelations as weapons. Final…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:17 PM
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Wow, thank you for a thorough analysis. I've seen these charts, but you have put a lot of thought into them.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 08:00 PM
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When I first visited TRP, I was incredibly skeptical. It was full of obviously untrue shit like "betas make women want to puke". I read the sidebar anyway, and figured "eh, they're just exaggerating to make a point". Since then, every day is another reminder that no, this is literally true. If you promise them anonymity (or even if you don't) and get them spun up about "unattractive guys", women will tell you that the thought is vomit-inducing. 250 pound women will say they're only attracted to …
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 07:58 PM
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I've definitely seen women do it, but always in some 'special case'. I've seen people wingwoman for family (e.g. same-age cousins), I've seen it for exes after amicable breakups, and I've seen it for friends who were mutually disinterested. I've certainly never seen a girl do it for one of 'her' betas - that would interrupt the "I get everything I want" friendship!
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 01:21 PM
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It's an awesome book. The Febreze story is one of my favorites because it doesn't just demonstrate cue-routine-reward, it demonstrates how screwed you are without it. A company made an awesome, valuable product, but no one used it without a dire need, and even then they usually forgot. Add a cue-routine loop (spray after cleaning) and suddenly you're back in business. The societal patterns in a later section are less personally useful, but they're still very cool reads. They're also thought-prov…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 02:48 AM
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This is fantastic life advice, thank you. The simplest argument I've seen for the value of behavioral economics is "you can sell more units by raising your prices". In a world of rational decision makers and perfect information, that's an absurd result. In reality, it works wonders, and increasing the theoretical value of a service trips the same levels - hence the phenomenon of always-on-sale products. "I would have charged X" follows the same rules. This makes me more inclined to try to focus …
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 02:31 AM
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Yep, I'm mixed on what the takeaway is but it's definitely an interesting thing. I can definitely respect children first, and I can even respect a "sacrifice for women" standard when it comes along with a serious belief in the importance of your own agency. On some level it's the bargin that used to constitute patriarchy: men sacrifice for women, and expect deference in return. At the same time, I find it hard to fault a personal outlook of "why treat women as more valuable" - the intellectually…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 02:25 AM
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Yep. I finally get the "woman push for more until there's nothing left or you stop them". The father figure is a nonsexual role and leaves you in a beta/submissive position where she expects that you'll just give her what she wants. If you push back, though, there's that interesting tension. You're challenging the idea that the world revolves around her - that's intriguing, and it also means that you must be as valuable as her. She's obviously great and important, so if you're willing to not giv…
/r/TheRedPill12/08/15 02:19 AM
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Interesting, thanks. This is something I've wondered about for a while - a lot of the time when people are mocking an idea, I can't help but notice that they're constantly telling their audience the thing they don't want anyone to believe. It seems like even if you're saying "this idea is held by outgroup people who you should disagree with", constantly repeating the idea is working against you as you do it.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 07:41 PM
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I have a question on embedded commands - how do they play when used in a negative? It's my impression that "Do you think guns cause violence?" is a liberal line, but "Surely you don't think guns cause violence?" is a much more common conservative one. Priming with questions like that tends to be an attempt to make an idea sound absurd. I know "absurdity" and "priming command" both work, but I don't have a clear sense of what happens to the command when you're trying to be absurd.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 07:01 PM
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I'd throw in The Power of Habit. It's not directly on that topic, but it's a primer on where those techniques come from. For products you don't desperately need, you use them based on mental triggers: When X happens, use Y. When out of Y, buy more. It's also a good primer in how to notice these cycles and disrupt the ones you don't want to be in.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 06:06 PM
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Jesus. I have female friends, and that's not what this was. They're relationships based on mutual romantic disinterest, where we support each other. Sure, I'll help you move, if you pay me back in beer, food, and favors. I'll listen to your problems, because I know you'll listen to mine. I'll drive you to work, or loan you my car, because you would do the same for me. There's no hint of friendship here, just an abuse of loyalty. If she actually wanted to be friends, she'd compensate him for his …
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 06:04 PM
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Her reaction is actually pretty understandable - she had the most useful friend imaginable for eight months, and now she doesn't. It's only "entitled" once you view the guy as a person rather than a convenience, and she doesn't.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:56 PM
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"Turning on" now means "merely being a polite friend, not a slave". If he's called her a worthless cunt and cut ties, she'd have a point. Instead, he devotes more of his resources to potential romantic partners than to random women who abuse his friendship for their convenience.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:55 PM
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This nails it. Even when I ask my best friends to help me move, I get them dinner and booze (I think a case of beer or a very nice six pack is the going rate for a day of moving?) It's an infinitely tiresome job that only serves one person's interests. It deserves to be compensated, especially by someone (a woman) who won't ever offer you equal help when you move.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:52 PM
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I just (late and slowly) stumbled into something that should have been obvious. The "ideal" man is knowledgeable, functionally fit but not hot, and does chores. He's a money pit and doesn't bother her with his desires. He puts a woman ahead of himself in every way, and supports her right to do, be, and get whatever she wants. He's her dad. One man offered her unconditional love, support, and self-sacrifice without demanding anything in return (or ran out the door when she was 5, and media taught…
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:46 PM
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Intelligence does too, because it's a form of competence. Not 'intelligence' as in a detailed knowledge of Kant, but as in an active mind and knowledge of many topics. Intellect (not necessarily book learning) is a form of fitness. Think about how much men and women disdain people who pretend to have abilities - confidence is great, but there has to be real value behind it. They're correlated, but both separately increase value.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:41 PM
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I have no way to judge Bruce Jenner's situation - from his comments about feeling like a woman during his Olympic days, and confiding in his first wife, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say that it's gender dysphoria, not conditioning. That said, I find it impossible to believe that life on camera, surrounded by the Kardashians, wouldn't utterly fuck you up. I can't say which beliefs/decisions/etc stem from that, but I absolutely think that would do permanent damage to a person.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:38 PM
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I think there's room to unironically believe this if you can't tell "aroused" from "powerful" (and I think a lot of women tweeting things like this can't). It's a turn-on to know that you're so important that people will die to preserve your superior value. It's a complete turn-off to actually fuck those people, but on a conceptual level it's sexy to know how much you matter. And then, since you're so incredibly important, it follows that guys who don't put you on a pedestal must be a huge freak…
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:35 PM
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This is a really good point. The argument "wars end when women get bombed" looks good, but it's just a correlation - bombing civilian centers is only sustainable for a short time, and that's where women tend to be. Britain didn't surrender to the Blitz, they just pushed back hard enough to preserve civilians/infrastructure and continue the war. Tellingly, women can suffer horribly without wars ending or even slowing down (go look at Nanking and the comfort women). Civilian bombing tends to happe…
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:28 PM
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That one always cracks me up because there's so much objective evidence against it. A stack of studies conclude the exact opposite. Being useful around the house might get you more sex, but only of you're useful in masculine ways. Cut down a dead tree and change a timing belt to get your wife into bed, but be very sure you don't do the dishes. Sheryl Sandburg and Naomi Wolf say doing chores is sexy, and cite "science!" but no actual evidence. This should be sufficient proof that it's a huge turn…
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:20 PM
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So the Wiki article on Benjamin Guggenheim came through TIL recently. Rich, successful guy who willingly died on the Titanic. His last words were "Tell my wife, if it should happen that my secretary and I both go down, tell her I played the game out straight to the end. No woman shall be left aboard this ship because Ben Guggenheim was a coward." My first thought "That's courage. He face down certain death willingly to save the lives of others." My second thought was "That is one of the most fuc…
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:13 PM
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So... 2 and 4 boil down to the principal-agent problem. I knew "men earn, women spend" was a common trope, but it never occurred to me to frame it economic terms that clear.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/15 05:19 PM
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Very much so - they have the right of it. I get how awful it feels to women, but the answer there is actually saying no. Using law as a tool to prevent sadness isn't alright, it just feels natural to a lot of people.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/15 02:06 PM
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And this woman is (metaphorically) freezing herself out of the office by writing a thousand words on thermostat temperatures instead of developing a useful fucking skill. I guess it all works out in the end.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:58 PM
2

Oxygen is a tool of the patriarchy.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:56 PM
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This was my thought also. That's gotta be the easiest custody hearing in history: "Well, your honor, she's probably a far better caretaker than I am. But I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that she's on Mars, and she's never coming back." So yeah, he's being a bitch now and talking about how he's the "astronaut wife". Because he knows that if this works out he's getting freedom and a sob-story/devoted-husband/connected-to-power trifecta to hit on women with.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:55 PM
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In a bout of sick, feminist-horrifying irony, a post on TRP just allowed me to understand why women are so supportive of enthusiastic consent laws. The legal, formal justifications were obviously crap, but I never bought "women just want to cover up sex they regret as rape". Enthusiastic consent laws don't matter much for that, given that it's already one person's word against another. I couldn't work out a convincing explanation of all of this. Now I get it. These changes make law conform to ho…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/15 05:30 PM
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Diminishing empathy (which is similar to what you're asking about here) is hard. Doing it without being a psychopath is harder, and not necessarily something you can do while preserving your identity. Given that, I don't think you can set out to not feel bad for people. Instead, you might be better off recognizing that giving away time and money isn't the best way to help people around you. Subsidizing an unsuccessful employer won't help them - you'll leave eventually and they'll be screwed. If …
/r/AlreadyRed03/08/15 07:15 PM
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I think this is true of many regulations and departmental policies, but (at least in the US) the original laws at work tend to be sex-neutral. The Equal Pay Act simply states that people shall not pay one sex more than the other for similar jobs requiring similar skills. Obviously that's almost always been suits over women getting paid less, but I'm not sure I've ever seen something as overt as "here's $500 for being a woman".
/r/TheRedPill02/08/15 04:03 PM
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Ethics aside, I would be looking at this very suspiciously if I held stock in the bank. As several people on Facebook are pointing out, it looks like it might violate a bunch of sex discrimination and fair wage laws. The bank says no, but apparently got that answer by talking to the parts of the government most likely to say "go for it!" I'm half expecting to see a stack of discrimination suits, possibly followed up by a shareholder derivative suit for opening the bank up to so much liability.
/r/TheRedPill01/08/15 02:40 PM
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I oversimplified, I completely accept this as an exception. My concern is that people are doomed if their goal is either a wedding, or 'being married' as an end in itself. I can very much respect seeking to get married as a necessity for being a successful and responsible parent. I'm not rushing to get married, but it's strictly before 'have kids' on my personal timeline.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/15 05:28 PM
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Hyperaggressive prenups aside, this is pretty much true. The men I'm thinking of mostly didn't run this risk - their wives were solidly post-wall before divorce reached its modern state. Picture your grandparents and older uncles. For me at least, the vast majority are solidly RP, and many are stably married.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/15 02:55 PM
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What real person posts about their glorious wedding and devotes 80% of their text to links to the photographer?
/r/TheRedPill31/07/15 02:31 PM
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Redpill aside, basically everyone agrees that if your goal is "getting married", you're utterly fucked. A functional marriage is a side effect of a good relationship, not an end in itself. I know a few happily married RP men - they all got married on their terms, without ever 'setting out' to get married.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/15 02:30 PM
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At least he knows to be ashamed that they met on Tinder? Unfortunately, it looks like he's thinking "people will assume she's a slut like those other girls" rather than "she's a slut like those other girls". Also... 80% of his imgur post is links to the wedding photographer, who gave him watermarked photos? What the shit?
/r/TheRedPill31/07/15 02:25 PM
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Red Pill Mods admit to being "basically Hitler" But seriously, fair enough. Most debate-friendly subs fall into some variant of the "eternal September" problem, eternally rehashing basic conversations for new users who won't read. Red Pill is susceptible to some hellish combination of that and concern trolling, and there's room to infinitely debate ideas if you never appeal to proof or reality. I'd be disappointed if TRP became a "closed" philosophy, but it doesn't look like that's what you're p…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/15 09:43 PM
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I'm inclined to think that the lack of desire for 'mentor-protege' relationships comes from an unwillingness to accept reality. An older male who moved from being valued for physicality (looks for women, athleticism for men) to being valued for experience and professionalism (anchor, commentator, etc) is likely to be aware and accepting of his new role. As such, he doesn't view younger, still-physical males as threats, but as people he can help and benefit from (financially as a trainer/coach, o…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/15 10:27 PM
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I'd agree with this. I don't especially think that abortions are limited to the point where most people are failing to get them out of difficulty. I only intend to suggest that we show essentially the same paternalistic/Christian-minded reluctance to abortion that we do to vasectomies.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 09:35 PM
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But even most of their own change is unacknowledged. Yeah, change they don't control is scarier, but mostly they don't recognize that it happens at all. Things are how they've always been, regardless of most evidence to the contrary. Every woman who ever turned her badboy rocker into a boring dad and then wondered what happened suffers from this.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 07:32 PM
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So a lot of that was standard TRP, but you nailed a point that I've somehow never quite grasped. Women don't understand self-improvement. I know the "never let them see you sweat" rule, and I know it works, but I always thought it was just because women wanted you to be a natural. Now, I think it's deeper than that. Working to improve is a weird and threatening behavior to most women. It's not just that they want to you have always been confident, rich, and hot. Rather, they're so skeptical of c…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 06:41 PM
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This is a really good insight. Anyone who's lived with one woman for a meaningful amount of time has seen this pattern. If the dishes are undone one day when she needs them, you "never" do the dishes. It may have taken 6 months for her to notice, you may do them every time from that day on, but you "never" do them. If someone offends her once when she's having a bad day, she's "always such a bitch". This also keeps women from having the same friends for a long time - anyone who offends her once …
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 06:27 PM
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30% off a condom, plus the fact that people are more contagious during breakouts, actually presents pretty good odds. The estimate I've seen is that you can expect to get it after sex with 13 randomly chosen partners, no condom. Taking a few precautions can improve that number a great deal.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 03:08 PM
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Birth control aside, the thing about abortions/vasectomies isn't true at all... There are about 1700 places in the US you can get an abortion, while just about any of the >5000 hospitals will offer a vasectomy (to some people at least). No one anywhere is forcing doctors to do abortions - performing them is an ideological choice, and they're actually hard to find or get in a lot of places. I know society is pro-woman in a bunch of ways, but ask someone who drove 200 miles to sit through counseli…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 03:06 PM
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Seriously, this. Quick search says there are 33,000 obgyns in the US, and >5,000 registered hospitals. Compare that to the 1,700 (and falling) abortion providers. No one at all is requiring doctors to perform abortions, and they're actually pretty god damn hard to find.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 03:03 PM
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I appreciate the clarity here. American medical practice is defensive more than sexist. The general standard is that anything outside of treating obvious health problems or doing 'routine' plastic surgery is going to get pushback from a lot of doctors. If you have three kids, getting a vasectomy is about solving a problem. If you have none, it's a lifestyle choice, and most docs aren't about that.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 03:00 PM
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I feel like the key point of failure (beyond a total lack of self awareness) was "giving her a week". It's both a symptom of his indecisiveness, and the cause of his further problems. It opened the door for him to say "Well, I'll think about it again later" and keep letting it go till 'later' until he ended up married. If you're going to walk, walk. Don't say a damn word until you actually know your answer.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 02:49 PM
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I have not read that yet. It was on my list once and then I lost track of it. Time to set in, I guess.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 07:45 PM
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Somehow I've never run into a summary of master/slave morality. That's really useful stuff. The consequence/intention dichotomy (or personal responsibility/social pressures, or independence/collaboration, or any of 100 other formulations) is at the heart of American social conflicts at the moment. We frame a huge number of different debates between independence and collaborative good, and I never realized why. My takeaway for today: collective morality is for people who can't cope with individua…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/15 06:43 PM
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So I think what you're missing is that accusing men who care about partner count of insecurity is actually a subtle ad hominem. Obviously she's the one who's actually insecure - if she thought it truly didn't matter she'd say "347 dudes, 6 chicks, and 1 donkey. Why do you ask?" Basically, the logic is "if you were confident about your looks, and your penis size, and your sexual prowess, you wouldn't care about my partner count". The hidden implication being that there's no other reason a man cou…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 12:20 PM
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Hmm, interesting. I'm sampling largely from small towns and suburbs - it's a mix of young-to-middle-aged professionals, and older traditionalists. Probably relevant that I'm spilling a lot of 40-60 year old farmers and country folk into the mix. I have a feeling that there's a lot more "redpill" outlook floating around in that demographic.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 12:12 PM
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Haha no worries. Honestly, it just caught my eye to suddenly get a Harry Potter themed response to a comment. I don't mean to hate if you're doing what you can. I don't respect people who are hiding out even from what they know they can do, but if you're doing something I'll take it. Nihilism makes total sense to me, I just find it too damn depressing. I suppose that's pretty much the definition of existentialism, though: "It's nihlism, but a bit cheerier."
/r/TheRedPill20/07/15 12:10 PM
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I think you're catching something huge here. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so everyone thinks all the wheels squeak. In addition to people remembering the horror stories most, the people with horror stories are most likely to speak up. TRP has useful things to say, but it's a terrible place to get a feel for how many relationships go badly wrong. People come here because they see one of the ones that blows up, so it's not a great place to judge how many people will go crazy on you.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 04:33 PM
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He hasn't questioned it because that answer told him everything he needed to know. Either he's a pushover and accepted the (implied) huge partner count, or he knows what's up and it doesn't stop him from hanging around. It's crazy delusional that she thinks she somehow avoided the discussion. "We don't need to talk about it" is the same as saying "too damn high and I know it".
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 04:28 PM
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It's the standard pattern TRP predicts - they want both. Ideally they want a hot guy from a NSA relationship to fall fanatically in love and commit to them. Even if they somehow got that, though, the commitment would make him less exciting once they got it. Hence, chasing alphas and dating betas.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 04:25 PM
2

I'll only bother to ask about one thing. Did you read Harry Potter? If so, what made you write a post about how the world is hopeless, it can't be saved, and we should all give up, then sign it Sirius? The man spent a decade in the worst prison on Earth to get revenge on someone who wronged his friends. He charged to his own death without a second thought to protect his godson from his own mistake. Even after death, he holds out hope and thinks that there are things worth living and dying for. A…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 04:20 PM
1

This is interesting - there's either something cultural or regional backing this. Everyone has some bad breakups, but I don't think more than 1/10 of the guys I know have seen losses that serious, and a lot of those everyone saw coming. If you broaden it to include woman-favoring (but not catastrophic) divorce outcomes the number goes up, but it's still far lower than 1/3. This is even after limiting my sample to people older than 40 or so. None of this is to say it doesn't happen, but among the…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/15 04:12 PM
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This is paranoid, racist, and uninformed. All women are monsters because this one cried abuse? How do you feel about being part of the sex that includes Jeffery Dahmer and Stalin? Most people aren't evil, they're just a bit selfish, the same as you and me. Life is war because Mexicans pick my tomatoes? When did cheap burgers at McDonald's become proof of a world in flames, not petty greed? When the fuck did Cubans become the source of all our drugs? They come over from an impoverished nation wit…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/15 05:59 PM
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That was some depressing damn bullshit. It reads like a guy just discovered women can do bad shit, same as men, and now he's terrified. The existence of Ted Bundy and Ed Gein doesn't make all men monsters, and what they did was infinitely worse than what this woman did. The racist, woman-hating paranoia in that post is truly moronic.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/15 05:46 PM
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There's a real risk in this sub of misjudging risks, and I think your reminder is a good one. Horror stories are something to be aware of, but they don't define what happens to most people. The human mind reacts to lurid stories out of proportion to their actual risk. Kidnapped white woman syndrome and sketchy white vans offering candy are other boogeymen coming from the same problem. Most men won't have an experience as bad as this post, and the problem in this post was outright solved with som…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/15 05:44 PM
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As I've heard it, anything that it takes all of society to convince you of deserves suspicion. If people are constantly lecturing you about something, consider why they have to work so hard to make you believe it.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/15 03:36 PM
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It's a possibility, but I didn't mean to imply that posts like this are new. The flared contributors and a lot of other people have been writing great things for essentially the whole history of the sub. What I meant was that there was a period of 3-5 months or so during TRP's recent fast growth where I felt like the average frontpage post was less in-depth and angrier than I'm seeing now. I also have the impression that the mods and a lot of long-time users agreed at least enough to be frustrat…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/15 02:36 PM
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One trick there is to be unhappy with your self instead of with your relationships. From what I've seen, people who arrive wanting self-improvement have very little anger phase (except maybe a bit of past-self-loathing) compared to people who arrive because they feel lonely or slighted by a woman.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/15 04:02 PM
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It makes me wonder if the stages of development we talk about are taking hold. During the really rapid growth, it was tons of people in the anger phase ranting about women behaving badly. Now that some critical mass of users are past that point and on to self-improvement and understanding, we get posts like these.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/15 03:39 PM
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What's hilarious to me is that by and large I don't see fat people bitching about how FPH was harming them. Their response is usually "They're dicks, whatever." What I see (saw) over and over again is "This is insulting and harmful to some unspecified other person, ban it for their sake!"
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 03:56 AM
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That's a really fun idea actually, I'll have to give it a try. We get into ruts with the same restaurants, so it should be very surprising.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/15 01:26 AM
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That, and it looks like OP probably got a bunch of relaxation during events he decided on (especially since things were going well). Once you've picked to wait in a line and get on the ride, you've got a bunch of down time. If everyone's happy and on the same page, then you'll enjoy that way more than if someone's whining the whole time.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 11:07 PM
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A thing that I think people underestimate here is the power of spinning this as a win-win. It's decisive to say "I don't want to do that, we're going to do this instead", but it's also demeaning. If it happens every time, she'll be (rightfully) unhappy. If, on the other hand, you come back with some version of "That sounds nice, but I think we could do it like this!", then everyone's happy. Her idea was considered and approved, but you took charge and showed her a good time by being decisive. As…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 10:58 PM
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You suggest a pretty key point at the end there - blue pill guys and women desire a lot of the same things in a partner. The whole 'manic pixie dream girl' thing boils down to 'directionless guy wants spontaneous, take-charge girl'. That idea is just so inconsistent with our culture that she comes off as crazy to make the story convincing. From a practical viewpoint, I've actually had pretty good luck asking myself "What would I have wanted a girl to do for me?" and then doing it.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 10:55 PM
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Bullets two and four had some great new insights for me. Most people know the "Restaurant X or Y?" approach, but it's pretty easy for her to push back against both of them. Proposing two types of food and already having options in mind for them seems like a more solid approach - she can't veto the whole choice because you know she likes both of those types of food. After she picks, you turn that into a restaurant with no hassle. The new restaurant thing has never failed me, but I never conscious…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 10:46 PM
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Yep. That set script isn't a great approach - unless you're already handling things right there's no fallback for "I just don't want X". If you think that forcing the matter and picking X anyway isn't going to go well, then it pays to start with either a binary choice or a second option. You can ask how she feels about X, and if she isn't into it (not just hesitating, actually doesn't want to) then you fall back to Y. No need for her to look dumb or your to look indecisive, just "Then let's go t…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 10:38 PM
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This is a good call. You don't have to try to override every decision - people really do have preferences. At the same time, you can cut through a lot of the agonizing by taking an inclination ("Do you think indian place looks good?") and turning it into a decision ("It does, let's go.")
/r/TheRedPill27/05/15 10:33 PM
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Wait, shit. I didn't see the problem that much with this post at first - questions of later abuse aside, he stopped someone powerless from getting hurt. I can respect that. Your question chains the equation hugely. It's one thing to intervene for someone weaker, and then seek praise. It's another thing to intervene only on behalf of women, and I am damned confident that's the case here. Now I feel kind of slimy.
/r/TheRedPill26/05/15 11:02 PM
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I think you missed an important accent there (although you totally understood). "Willing to enter into a relationship with her". This is about the desire to be special. The ideal man is a perfect alpha fux who gives her sensitivity and kindness that he won't give to anyone else. He doesn't raise her up on a pedestal, but he treats her better than anyone else.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/15 08:58 AM
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Jesus, where did this come from? At my absolute most BP this never entered my head. Not only was my internal policy "if you ever cheat, we're done", it was very clear to anyone I was with. I can't imagine losing track of even that. The "got caught" quote has a horrifying thing there you didn't mention: "she needs to decide what to do". He outlined his feelings and told the woman who had just cheated on him to make the decision for him. That's a level of surrender I've never seen.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/15 01:02 AM
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Like you say, there's almost some truth here. There's nothing wrong with knowing a woman you aren't hooking up with, it expands your social circles and is probably an educational experience (work out why she shot you down and you'll know something about yourself). What it's not, though, is a way to get hooked up with her friends. It might be a way to meet them, but it's delusional to think that someone who rejected you will set you up with good prospects.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 12:35 AM
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This is a pretty significant point - women can do an excellent job of winging for you, because they circumvent pretty much all the sexual barriers that other women put up towards men. They just don't do that excellent job. I've seen girls hook up male friends, but only male friends they made after getting into a lasting relationship. Generally, someone they would have hooked up with if they were single upon meeting them. It's some combination of 'rewarding' the attractive guy they can't hook up …
/r/TheRedPill23/04/15 12:30 AM
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For your entertainment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3li_aZWt-r0 That's the Louis C.K. sketch that introduced me to this idea. He talks about listening to a couple of dumb fat guys with their words "just sliding out of their mouths". Once I heard it, I couldn't stop seeing it - a huge number of people walk, talk, and live without any actual action. They don't go places, they lumber around. They don't speak with precision or motive, they just make noises to make noises. Overall, a remarkable n…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/15 02:16 PM
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I'm going to offer a tangential solution: make individuals feel optional. This isn't about seeming low-effort (which you can probably only do with people who don't know you well), it's about getting them on your side regardless. In short, it comes down to seeming immovable. A-type is impressive when it never stumbles or falters. If you can seem detached from petty problems and circumstances, it becomes an attribute. The guy yelling at you for being 3 hours late with your part of the project is a…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 08:32 PM
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Holy shit, thank you for explaining an experience I had recently. A girl I know started giving me shit because "you read". Joking, but with a real edge behind it. She's a college-educated scientist, so this isn't an anti-intellectual thing. What absolutely baffled me was that she's constantly impressed by how much I know, and praising the fact that I'm so well-informed. My first reaction was to mock her and say "How the fuck do you think I know so much? Of course I read." I didn't of course, but…
/r/TheRedPill20/01/15 07:57 PM
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Thanks so much for this. I'm in a roughly similar situation to OP - the relationship is good, but could certainly use more RP. An awful lot of LTR advice here doesn't particularly work because a sudden personality flip just causes issues. This summary is a great alternative. It's not enough to assert dominance, it has to be part of growth.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 03:40 PM
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There's a really fascinating exchange after "aren't completely available". I'm attracted to men who aren't completely available. I figure it's to continually relive my relationship with my dad. That's so sad...I hope one day you find one that will make himself available to you. I get bored with men who are completely available. It's like the whole thing is too easy. A great flash of self-awareness from one side, and a complete abandonment of agency on the other. There's just this blind assumptio…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 10:35 PM
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This actually makes a lot of sense. Power structures aren't strictly tree-shaped, so looking for the "most dominant" is something of a futile task. Looking to minimize who's "above" a person is a much clearer task, and it helps allow for things like the autonomy of a medicine man vs a chief. Thanks for pointing out this possibility.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 10:29 PM
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Precisely. The 1% protests were powerful because they established a boundary. Occupy defined an "enemy", and made itself newsworthy by alienating doctors and the "deserving wealthy". No one made Dodd-Frank an interesting topic because we all agreed that something should be done, but were too ignorant to know what. The result is that we ignore it all.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 10:19 PM
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That last point is certainly one worth considering directly, but you can also shape it indirectly. Good frame and self-improvement make divorce less likely, and good preparation and personal success make divorce less harmful. On a personal level, there's a lot to be said for making men divorce-proof as they get into relationships.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 09:54 PM
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Drywalling is an impressive skill, but holy shit do I hate having to do it. I'd rather fuck with electrical stuff that might kill me than drywall a house. Not sure how we got to this, but god do I hate drywalling.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 09:50 PM
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Well shit, thanks for this. There's a lot of game-playing in most relationship talks, various powerplays and shit-tests that are easy to miss or hard to negotiate (agree and amplify doesn't always work if real info has to be conveyed). Even if you do it well, it makes the talk unpleasant and adversarial. I'd experienced this, but never noticed it. A body position that shows power and connection makes most of this evaporate. You don't have to dodge petty linguistic shit, you just let her storm an…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 09:47 PM
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Here's how: this happens to women too (in cases of real rape). It's not about sexuality, and it's not about feminism, it's about controversy. This is clearly abuse, therefore it's boring. I've met gay guys who've openly stated that they prefer raping drunk straight guys to meeting other gays. It's bad, but not shocking. Read http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/, the key factor isn't about sexuality, it's about what offends the most people. This is "unsurprising", therefor…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 06:36 AM
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My dad was too far in to get a divorce when he had me. He was probably a pretty fun guy when he first got married, but he was an alcoholic to cope with marriage by the first time I can remember. My uncle is MGTOW, which might be masculine but doesn't tend to be a role model. My grandfather is too irascible and old school to be truly relevant, even if he is masculine. I don't have a "modern" role model, and that's why I'm here. Thanks for the reminder.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/14 06:32 AM
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Thanks! I have no idea how you found your way back to this post, but I'm glad to see a source on this at last. When I went looking I found some "debunkings", but they all boiled down to "I can't find a source for this". This actually explains what produced this claim, and what to make of the result. I appreciate it a ton.
/r/TheRedPill18/12/14 10:07 PM
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What he has makes for an interesting analogy though. Framing the other side of these things can be informative even if there's no actual need to justify the claim.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 06:14 PM
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I certainly don't mean to imply this is a useful person. Everything here is a mess except his rags-to-riches story, and she appears to be the low point of it all. All I can say is that so far the courts seem to have handled this pretty well for a change.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 06:33 AM
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It's really significant that she's been slapped down twice in court - filing a lawsuit does not a miscarriage of justice make. This looks less like "divorce rape" and more like "stupid people can file lawsuits too".
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 10:15 PM
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Thanks man, it did me good to write it up and really think through what had changed! Best of luck, and know that these things can change for the better, even within a long relationship.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 09:37 PM
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Well, timing is a pretty individual one. (We were living together for a while at the time, ymmv) For me, it was the realization that the classic "bedtime" sex was a bad option in my relationship. She tended to be exhausted, and it was completely routine, which were both mood killers. Fixing that connected to the other two. Lying in bed next to someone makes it really easy to proposition them with very little risk of a "hard" rejection - it's a buffer. That also makes it kind of passive and unsex…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 05:13 PM
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Christ, thanks for this. The difference between "Try your best to fix women so you don't have to fucking deal with that shit" and "You're to blame for not fixing women" is an important one to remember. That frog and scorpion parable doesn't erase the fact that the scorpion is suicidally vicious, it just means that's a thing to be aware of.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 01:50 AM
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Supersatiation makes me more scared for the future of the US than essentially anything else. Everything is sweeter, sexier, and more fun than we understand, and it's fucking up a lot of basic desires.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 01:41 AM
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This was a huge revelation for me. I talked to my girl about how we don't have sex anymore. Results? Anger, manipulation, disdain, and no more sex. Then I changed how I came onto her to be more more intense, better timed, and more dominant. Results? More sex, better sex, and a better relationship outside the bedroom. Lesson learned.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 01:31 AM
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This was a huge revelation for me. I talked to my girl about how we don't have sex anymore. Results? Anger, manipulation, disdain, and no more sex. Then I changed how I came onto her to be more more intense, better timed, and more dominant. Results? More sex, better sex, and a better relationship outside the bedroom. Lesson learned.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 01:31 AM
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It took me years to understand passive aggressive behavior. "Not telling them why you're mad? Then nothing will change." I didn't understand until I realized that the point wasn't to change things, it was to hurt someone. Disturbed the hell out of me when I first realized, actually.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 01:29 AM
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They exist - I know a couple actually. It mostly comes tied up with other stuff you may not welcome though - free hobbies, background of being poor, intense career/professional focus. Beyond that, I think the answer is what you mentioned. Find someone where your earnings swamp petty money management stuff, and teach her the big shit.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 04:48 PM
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Jesus Christ, I've never seen this. Tattoo'd guys crying openly? When did that shit start? Tattoos weren't ever a good decision necessarily, but a sleeve could at least mark you as hard.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 04:42 PM
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You're alluding to something incredibly useful that I encountered on RP a while back. It's easy to become cynical or negative about shit you don't do or understand, but it only takes one question to sort through that. "How would I use this to improve my life?" It reveals a huge amount about the world. Texting? Lets me keep in touch with distant friends or work faster, so that's how I should use it. Twitter? Lets me do jack shit unless I'm a comedian or celebrity, so I don't have one. Triple frap…
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 04:40 PM
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Yep. It's a move towards "equality" to offload chores to men, but it's only made because it isn't a move towards power sharing.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 04:27 PM
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This producing an interesting "splitting" effect, I think. In secular communities, there's a steady push to make extra-familial interactions gender-neutral. The result in that whichever gender's power was primarily social decays, and whichever gender's power is primarily domestic remains untouched, creating imbalance. It's hard to see for Christianity because Christianity in secular communities is weakening and getting rarer, but I suspect that in "strongly religious" households, whichever side …
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 01:32 AM
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This is a really fascinating point. The "separate spheres" doctrine (men are dominant in some roles, women in others) generally works alright as long as those spheres are roughly preserved. If one of those spheres is dissolved (or made "equal"), suddenly there's a fundamental imbalance. This makes a lot of sense for religious communities becoming secularized, but I think it can be applied more broadly. We've very much seen egalitarianism grow in social and workplace settings without correspondin…
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 01:27 AM
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Holy shit. I read the excerpt, and thought "I guess it's a good reminder, but we all know Tumblr is full of people who think this way. Slamming random blogs is cheap indignation." Then I did a double take at your first link. The motherfucking Washington Post is pulling this crap? I wrote off RS and a lot of other sources, but I still thought better of the Post. Now I lose another source. The thing I can't get over is the line "Errors can be undone by an investigation that clears the accused." Bu…
/r/TheRedPill08/12/14 05:15 PM
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Wait, Taibbi left rolling stone? He was my favorite piece of the whole magazine...
/r/TheRedPill06/12/14 11:49 PM
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RS has been fucking itself pretty hard lately. Between that and the outcry over the Boston bombers, they've lost a lot of face with a lot of people. I'd expect to either see a few big resignations and a rework, or a slow decline into niche-market obscurity. Maybe we'll even see a miracle, and they'll go back to "personal" stories (like Hunter S. Thompson) and music coverage.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 09:18 PM
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Thanks, this makes a lot of sense. I can imagine there are a lot of people out there playing games to "learn" without breaking into the industry. As for those actually doing dev/design work, there's also a big difference between playing (probably mostly singleplayer) for artistry and design, and playing for proxy achievement. I appreciate the summary.
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 09:10 PM
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OP, how have you managed to balance working in gaming (assuming you're a dev/designer) with not playing games anymore? It seems like you'd lose your design edge that way, so I'm curious to hear whether you've found moderation or some other way to succeed.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 02:41 PM
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If you're yelling about how this isn't you in the comments, be scared. If you casually thought "nah, I play madden once a week with buddies when there's no game on", you're probably fine. If you thought "No! That's bullshit, I'm just fine, it's just those Korean SC addicts who have a problem!", then you talk like an alcoholic. I know, cause I do too. Take a hard look at yourself.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 02:41 PM
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Yep, mine's been off the market since 16. With a few tweaks she fits the list, and she grew up "good" and hasn't been on the carousel in college. I honestly wonder how much of people not meeting this list just comes down to being single in college.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 11:24 PM
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You hinted at it with "not on her cellphone". The ability to sit quietly for two minutes. Just sit, no phone, no conversation, no bothering everyone for attention or to do something new. Somehow that's always signaled some reserves of dignity and a put-together internal life that I find really attractive. As you say, it doesn't make a unicorn, but it's been an awfully good sign to me.
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 09:06 PM
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This is a slightly petty point, but I think it's an important one. Free Trade has never been practiced in the United States outside the confines of too-hard-to-manage border regions. We have seen increasing regulation, but since the days of the Interstate Commerce Act, we've seen a strong and regulation-intensive central government. True security-or-less free capitalism hasn't ever been practiced in the United States, nor in much of the Western world.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 09:41 PM
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The entire Powertalk series reads like a primer on government. Perhaps most significant, a lot of the stupidity we see really is stupid - those people are put in front of us for a reason. We rage at the stupidity of officials and PR flacks, but don't think about where decisions are coming from. There's a reason Lee Atwater was too smart to run for government.
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 09:37 PM
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There is a trick here, but it's not universally applicable. Fear of shame won't make you get up and go for a run every day. (There are other tricks also, like finding a "running buddy". Social pressure can be directed a lot of ways, but you have to know them.) Fear of shame (or lost money, or any other negative stimulus) is fantastic at getting you to take a single action. Scared to get up on stage at the talent show? Tell everyone you will. Don't want to jump of the high diving board? You will …
/r/TheRedPill26/11/14 02:22 PM
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If you doubt this, build your own anecdotal evidence. Think about your friends and acquaintances who've done something awesome: painted a great picture, run a marathon, gotten published or hired somewhere awesome. Now think about your friends and ask yourself which ones talk a lot about a goal. I'll bet they aren't the same people. Sure, you knew that your successful friends were talented (long-term practice is hard to hide), but I'll bet they talked about what they did. "Yeah, I went to a cooki…
/r/TheRedPill25/11/14 07:36 PM
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This sounds about right. When it's the system you've been taught is "right" it doesn't really stand out. It's only when someone does something truly selfish and awful that you start to think "Maybe this isn't how things have to be..."
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 10:18 PM
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I feel like the trite line about the player and the game applies here. He might be BP, but most guys are. It's hard not to be w/o a good male role model - most of us spent a lot of years being lied to. He still has that essential anger that says to me he's not gone altogether. He still knows he's better than this, and for that I applaud him.
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 08:06 AM
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Well shit, I didn't even notice that. I saw that it was a weird thing to say, but now that you point it out she's preparing in advance for something to "happen", especially since she's mad at her husband.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 09:21 AM
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I absolutely agree with you, and I left out teaching because it's a more complicated matter. The thrust of my claim was "stripping requires specific skills and traits, most of the other jobs listed don't in our society." As for whether that should be true, I have a very different outlook. I honestly think teachers should make as much as professors, if not more. The assertion "raising teacher salaries doesn't help!" only works if you're willing to claim supply and demand aren't in effect, which s…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 09:20 AM
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I'm not really expecting it from her, I was hoping someone would apply it before running the story. But I suppose expecting something other than victimization drama from the news isn't much better, is it?
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 12:09 AM
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The line about pay is what really got me. How the hell is it evidence of a sexist culture that stripping is worth more than counselling homeless youth, waiting tables, or writing? Counselling homeless youth earns jack shit because people with no money are a bad customer base. The rest of society doesn't seem to care about whether they get counselling, so there's no money to be made. Waiting tables may be demanding, but it's not difficult to learn. You're completely unspecialized, so you make no …
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 10:12 PM
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"Fat, evil, and smell like yeast." That line alone justifies the entire conversation to me.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 09:26 PM
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I'm might borrow the pushups one. I hate pushups, so they're probably the best willpower exercise I can think of.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 09:33 AM
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Probably not the main reason, but a fun fact is that swearing while in pain improves our resilience to pain, but the effect is more pronounced the less often you use the word. It's not a reason to quit swearing, but it did make me reconsider my language habits. It turns out that keeping something taboo or tied to strong emotion is actually useful for giving that word new power, so I try not to swear from my whole vocabulary anymore. When I get actually hurt I'm grateful for it. http://www.scient…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 09:32 AM
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The short take on this is the economic one. A bunch of guys see an attractive woman. They have a small chance of a good payoff by hitting on her, a large chance of a slightly good one (validation from interacting with her), and effectively no chance of a bad one (she turns out to be psycho and knifes them, or maybe shames them with a GoPro). Donating to some mythical cause isn't going to change this. Bitching about it with a GoPro isn't going to change it. No one smart would think it would. This…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 09:09 AM
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I don't quite buy into the people here suggesting "No fatties" as a post. That reads not just as hostile to fat women, but as an abrasive and inarticulate personality. Seeing the equivalent posts on a woman's profile would put me off even if I fit the criteria. That said, I don't think you need to frame it as an apology or explain in significant detail. It encourages people to think about whether to be angry, and even for people who don't have an emotional reaction it's a long, negative thing to…
/r/TheRedPill29/10/14 04:46 AM
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Because looks still come first? I don't mean to suggest that "hot" isn't one of the most fundamental requirements, just that it's not the only one. She does have a rich boyfriend incidentally - maybe just chalk that one up to the existence of guys who like that body type.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 05:06 PM
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I oversimplified by saying "supportive of the RP movement". Something like "opposed to men becoming BP" would be more accurate. That's the same dichotomy RP always has, where women hate its dialogue and existence, but like its outcomes. I never claimed that being a strong independent women "is RP", I'm not even sure what that would mean. The claim was that high value women want more RP/alpha guys in the world, not that they are RP. And yes, we all know that "I'm not a feminist but I believe that…
/r/TheRedPill27/10/14 08:50 PM
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Those eye rolls and little lip smacks - I'm not sure I've ever seen someone be more obvious with "I mean none of what's coming out of my mouth."
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 06:52 AM
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That point in paragraph two - god damn that's important. I crave sweet, carb-filled shit pretty much every time I'm hungry. The answer isn't starving myself, it's eating a bowl of chicken and vegetables. It's dense, it's nutritious, and suddenly I'm not hungry. Fuck the craving, what I really wanted was food, and good food still tastes good.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 06:48 AM
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This was what changed my world. Working out sucked, and I just didn't care enough about getting big to suffer so much for it. Then I found some demanding sports I loved doing, and realized why there are people who don't mind working out. There are more goals than pure looks, and they can help you get to looks without so much pain.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 06:46 AM
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This points out something I'd never really considered - in some ways, very high status women have reason to be supportive of the RP movement. For low market value women, discouraging and bewildering men brings them control and the chance to find a beta of their own. For medium status women, it frees up their options. They can ride the carousel with less judgement, and then find a higher quality man than they would historically because he's bought into the idea that he should giver he free rein a…
/r/TheRedPill25/10/14 06:43 AM
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I don't know about whether this could actually put Brad Pitt in the hole - I don't know if anything short of "I'm going to murder you with the knife in my pocket" could. That said, I think you have the right insight here. This isn't a place for the Brad Pitt test. Even if it wouldn't stop him from getting laid, it would hurt his odds. They're just very high already. This isn't "sexy from the right guy", it's simply a turnoff. Romance in the sense of "roses because that's sweet" is hot from the r…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 07:06 AM
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Let's see what we can do here. I obviously can't prove accuracy, but we can pull some supporting evidence and rationale. I completely understand your initial skepticism about this data. My first thought is that I strongly doubt PornHub made up their results. They've been running a statistical analysis series for a while, they're doing in conjunction with BuzzFeed (who while crappy, are actually journalists some of the time), and they're pretty well regarded for interacting with Reddit and the in…
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 01:24 AM
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Let her find that out after she sees that you're in better shape, better with you hands, and a higher earner than all the beta desk jockeys she meets (because you probably are). The great thing about the hamster is that it works both ways - if she pegs you as alpha, she'll do all the work of making your job seem awesome for you.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/14 05:35 PM
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Hmm, fair enough. I read into that when I shouldn't have.
/r/TheRedPill19/10/14 06:42 PM
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That's true, and I feel bad about it. Their interpretation isn't as bad as it could be (though it's for all the wrong reasons) if we go by statistics on fantasies - well-conducted, broad spectrum studies of male and female fantasies do suggest that bondage and non consent fantasies are common among women as a broad spectrum. On the other hand, I see a lot of people here taking this as all women like this, or even as all women like this in person. Neither of those conclusions are justified, and i…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 09:46 PM
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I've edited the top-level post with some replies to this. In short, that conclusion you posted is all I'm trying to take away. I'm assuming that: PornHub saw a statistically significant number of female users, and Those users were at least vaguely similar to other women (not exclusively from one city, mentally ill, or otherwise nonrepresentative). Nothing more. This isn't meant to be an assertion about all women because it's an assertion about porn users, which means I'm not worried about that s…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 06:09 PM
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Yep. I edited the top-level about this - even in a NAWALT case I think it still helps disprove the point about this content being interesting only to men and breeding hatred of women, but it's not representative. Porn use is less common in women, and probably syncs up to other oddities. As for telling pornhub, they appear to use the same tracking-cookie model most ad-funded websites do. Many know your gender (at least probabilistically) without asking - seeing you spend an hour on Pintrest would…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 06:04 PM
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Yep, that's entirely true. I use a 'shorthand' that's common around TRP and perhaps a bit detrimental. This is a response to late second-wave and anti-sex/anti-porn third-wave feminists. I certainly don't intend to be calling out Elizabeth Cady Stanton or Christina Sommers. It is worth reminding ourselves that feminism isn't always about this shit. 'Equity' feminism is something that I'd like to think most people support, and serious, worrying sexual discrimination is still common around the wor…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 06:01 PM
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That's an interesting case. While I suspect there are some people who are really, worryingly against (and interested in) pedophilia, I think you're right that it's not true of most people crusading against it. One guess at the difference is that with pedophilia there are obviously-visible, specific victims. Anti-homosexuality and anti-porn pitches tend to be "this is corrupting society". Anti-pedophilia pitches tend more towards "This is ruining the lives of specific children. Here are some of t…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:44 AM
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It's a damn good question, and they don't openly state this. They say it's segmenting by gender using anonymized analytics tools, which leads to me to assume it's the same way most websites do. Specifically, tracking cookies and third-party analytics sites to match browser use across multiple websites. It's common for A/B testing, ad targeting, and knowing what content recommendation. It's also pretty accurate (an hour on Pintrest will give you gender with like 90% accuracy). If they're not doin…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:38 AM
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Heh, interesting. I don't know what to make of that preference unless it's a way for older guys to find people similar to them/their partners. Why they would want that I don't know however. OkCupid data pools say that guys mostly only want to date 22-year-olds, no matter how old they get.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:35 AM
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I absolutely have, and it was a backing thought for this post. I felt it was worth posting because apparently a lot of feminist authors never have. As far as they know (or will admit), this is all male fantasies about violence and power. Finding a new data source for my anecdotal experience (way more women are into being dominated than men are into doing domination) seemed worth sharing to help oppose that bullshit. The anecdotal evidence was very one-sided that way, but I try to fall back on da…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:34 AM
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All they offer is "segmenting by gender within our analytics tools". That's an odd phrase. My best guess is that they use cookie-based or ip-share tracking like many more 'wholesome' websites to serve ads better. If they track visits to many websites via tracking cookies, they can build a pretty solid guess of user gender. That, or they run surveys I've never seen. It's a question I'd really like an answer to, and some poking around didn't settle it.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:31 AM
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I'm curious about this too. I didn't address the strong preference for gay sex among women simply because I don't have a good answer. If lesbians were more likely to look up porn, and liked lesbian sex, I'd get that. But gay male sex has a huge fandom as well, and none of my theories explain why just those two would be so far out there.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:29 AM
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That last question threw me a lot. I wanted to address it in the post, but I didn't have a decent answer. Some theories: Women are into different gay porn for different reasons. Lesbian porn is entirely focused on showing female pleasure, so it's extra easy to identify with. Gay male porn tends to cast hotter and perhaps more sexually confident guys than straight porn, so it has more eye-candy for women. Meets observations, but seems unduly complicated. Niche sexual practices in general make por…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:27 AM
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I can't crosslink, but I've edited the top-level with some replies to this. I don't disagree, but I also don't think it invalidates my point. What I'm trying to argue is simply that these things are not "for men only" or attractive because their audience hates women. A non-representative sample of women still works for this claim.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:15 AM
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I completely agree. I don't intend to paint any fantasy scenario as a real-life desire, least of all "women like violence or rape". What I'm trying to argue against is the claim that people like this stuff because they hate women, and that it makes them want to hurt women. If an eager subset of it's users are female, the claim that it's 'phallocentric' and 'misogynistic' becomes a lot more questionable.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:14 AM
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Ah, got it. That's fair enough, though I disagree with your 90% stat. The sources I can find vary a lot, but only one much-disputed poll dips below 10% use. The overall point I certainly grant - this shouldn't be read as an all-women assertion. It was an attempt to reply to critiques of 'rough' porn as being only for men, and specifically for men who hate women. If there are a decent number of female porn users who are into this, then it's reasonable to say that you don't have to hate women to l…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:12 AM
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Check my edit to the top level post (because I can't crosslink to my answers). In short, it doesn't change my point that most porn viewing is by men. If we have a significant sample from both populations, the relative rate is unimportant to my claim. If more men than women use porn, that has no impact at all on an assertion about the porn habits of women. There's significant room to attack the quality of the data, though, and I discuss that in my second link. In short, I don't take any of this a…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:03 AM
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This is a reasonable point, and I've gotten it (less well stated) quite a bit. I offer some stats on porn use, and a discussion of why I trust assertions with a non-representative sample in top level edits (I'd link them, but it breaks sub rules). In short, I agree that the tastes of PornHub visitors don't match those of average women. However, I don't think that undercuts a point about 'rough' porn being more than a crutch for violent males. I seek to disprove an absolute assertion, not prove a…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:01 AM
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Check my replies linked in my edit to the main post (I'd link them here, but it breaks sub rules). In short, it doesn't change my point that most porn viewing is by men. If we have a significant sample from both populations, the relative rate is unimportant to my claim. There's significant room to attack the quality of the data, though, and I discuss that in my second link. In short, I don't take any of this as gospel. However, I think it has some validity based on cross-reference with well-exec…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 08:01 AM
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No means no, at least until contradicted. Whether you hold to that as a moral principle or a legal precaution, it does. As for whether that's always what women imagine it means, well, you can see the data.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 07:48 AM
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It shouldn't matter whether the ratio of visitors is 50/50. With a statistically significant sample of both populations, it wouldn't matter if it were 40/60 or 90/10. Pornhub's traffic rates and the rate of porn watching among women are high enough to convince me that our sample is decent. A few thousand people are enough to offer pretty high confidence about the country as a whole if distribution is good. There is a more fundamental question that I've addressed a few places here, which is that …
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 07:40 AM
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This is an interesting point, and I think the relevant psych idea is Fundamental Attribution Error. In short, it's the tendency to say that you do things for external reasons, while other people do things because of who they are. "I watch this because it offers me scenarios I would never want for real, and lets me picture being non-responsible for what happens. Men watch this because they're violent pigs." "I would never live this, it's only a fantasy. Men want to do whatever they see." When you…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/14 07:31 AM
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Yep, and the presence of "bondage" on that list shouldn't be shocking. Fetish surveys seem to indicate that rape and bondage fantasies are extremely common in women, and that a large percentage of both men and women fantasize about the "sub" side of bondage and related kinks. As an aside, I wonder if the profusion of fiction where a girl comes onto a guy aggressively is related to this. The whole 'tsundere' and 'manic dream girl' thing looks a little like a combination of guys enjoying submissio…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 10:24 PM
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Depending on your source, from 8% to 60%. Pew poll says 8% watch online porn, most people seem to reject this value. Various other surveys get higher numbers, and if you're willing to broaden to "view videos with sexual content [for the purpose of sexual content] at least one a month", we get numbers in the vicinity of 55%. Obviously this is a messy question. Self-selection is out in force, and PornHub use is a rather narrower thing than a lot of the questions surveyed. What's worse, these resul…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 10:18 PM
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It's certainly true that this isn't a rigorous sample, and I hope I didn't pitch it as such. On the other hand, estimates of how many women view online porn are higher than you might guess, and I've found decent sources claiming as high as 60%. Porn is certainly more normalized for men, but it's not actually that uncommon among women. As with studies of gender and aggression, it's important to remember that your knowledge of porn habits isn't a blind study. In particular, if porn use by women is…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 09:06 PM
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This makes a lot of sense, but I think two caveats may apply to the point about tattooed chicks being less attractive. Tattoos are a good indicator of things men may want for hookups. Damaged and risktaking can make for a way more interesting fling, which produces and association between tattoos and "freaky" girls. Well placed tats can occasionally be attractive as art. I personally find a well-done sleeve beautiful not as a social symbol but in it's own right. It's decoration just like a neckla…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/14 06:01 PM
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He can still be disgusted by the economics of it. A blowjob for an otherwise-free ride home says something about how she values herself, and it isn't good. Of course, my read isn't that it was a sex act for resources, it's that she wanted him.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 06:01 PM
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I don't buy it. Check out deadbedrooms if you want to see how that goes - after a bit, duty sex evaporates altogether. The role of duty in sporadic sex is just one more point in the guy's favor. They have sex on their anniversary because he demonstrates wealth with flowers, temporary SMV as she remembers how he used to be, and in-relationship SMV because society still tells her she's expected to fuck on the anniversary. Duty sex happens when his situational SMV gets just high enough to get him s…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:59 PM
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That's not even vaguely what alpha fucks, beta bucks means. Betas pay for little to no pussy because they overvalue it and undervalue themselves (or are simply low-value), so they can't reject it. Turning down pussy because it comes at too high a cost is an alpha decision on the face of it. Compromising a (sensible) moral code is a cost, just like a fancy dinner is. Kovu's just deciding that some pussy is too expensive in terms of self-respect, same as any of us do.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:54 PM
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There's also the fact that it's social market value. Shooting her down and doing his own thing is a high SMV activity, but dumping her ass on the street isn't. We don't have to get into what was deserved to see that it wouldn't have been a good move socially. First, she would get to be offended so she'd be telling the story instead of keeping quiet. Second, leaving someone you were hanging out with with a long walk is generally rude. Leaving a girl with a long walk at night is generally ruder (n…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:51 PM
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I'm surprised more people don't acknowledge this one. Having been the "boyfriend somewhere" and gotten independent confirmation of what happened, this is a very real thing. The sex was secondary - if she got the attention and feminine feelings that being seduced brings, there was no real need to hook up.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:45 PM
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The greatest insight I've ever been given is that it's ok to be hated. I grew up thinking that being hated, that being the subject of anger meant I had done something wrong. It doesn't. It just means I've done something meaningful. Having an impact in the world and looking out for yourself will make people hate you, and there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:42 PM
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The most informative part of the entire FB discussion is the list of his friends' names. 3 female, 2 ambiguous, plus a female commenter. I don't accept the logic that men and women can't be friends. I do, however, think that a man can't have exclusively female friends without damage. I also think that male-female friendships are at their healthiest when the men are sexually successful already and both parties are living within their gender roles to some degree. For an alpha to have some female f…
/r/TheRedPill14/10/14 05:37 PM
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There's a related tactic here that might be useful in even more circumstances: you can do this before getting involved with someone. Obviously you don't usually want that, but sometimes you see a serious danger zone coming. If someone at work (or in some other structured setting, even a neighbor) comes onto you and you're scared that a flat rejection could cause you huge issues (e.g. "Oh he came onto me and I felt threatened"), there aren't many ways out. Saying no gets you instant wrath, but sa…
/r/TheRedPill02/10/14 08:33 AM
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There's some crazy out there that you don't see coming. 99.5% of the time there's no reason to worry, but sometimes you get into the relationship and find something truly nuts under the surface. Even then it's not likely to be murder, but there's no need to have someone slash your tires and get you fired either. Letting her break up with you is valuable if the social hit won't be bad and the breakup is going to be ugly, ignoring any concerns of actual assault.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/14 08:27 AM
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This is a really well-described point. Withholding validation isn't the only way to draw a woman in; the Casanova stereotype exists for a reason. A perfectly confident, self-contained lover who is also wildly in love with her is solid gold. If you accidentally show SMV high enough that doting on her doesn't make her think she can do better, she'll finally have exactly what she wants. That's not good if you're trying to end a relationship.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/14 08:25 AM
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Of the three of them, he looked to be having the most fun anyway.
/r/TheRedPill25/09/14 06:28 AM
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Your last two paragraphs there were incredibly insightful. I knew the basic "whore at heart, college lets it out" storyline, but I had never noticed why frat parties are for freshmen and sophomores. "I just don't party anymore" is such a common refrain, and I suddenly realize that it's always from girls who rode the carousel hard during the start of college.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/14 07:23 AM
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This is a really interesting example, especially coming from a culture which hasn't fully internalized these flawed measurement techniques and claims. The point that struck me most powerfully was the one about introducing women to the labor force. Obviously an expanding labor force boosts GDP, and further integrating women is like "cheating" population growth for faster development. However, it's exceedingly hard to manage. The United States' example is instructive: successful integration of mil…
/r/AlreadyRed01/09/14 04:46 PM
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I'd never quite realized that point about beauty. People (women) ask why I think the Lotus Elise is such a wonderful car when it's so ugly. I can tell them that it's beautiful because it's functional, but I can never truly convey that feeling to someone who doesn't live in a reality where quality and function determine what something is worth.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/14 06:04 PM
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Always remember, if it takes propaganda and mass social conditioning to convince you to do something, it's probably not healthy for you. Even without any of your other rather informative stuff, this is valuable enough to justify the post. If everyone keeps telling you how great it is, but it feels like a terrible choice, you're probably being lied to.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/14 03:02 PM
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I'm theorizing, but bear in mind: do you know anyone whose masculinity is beyond question? In the modern world it's exceedingly hard to find. I wasn't listing three manly careers but hypothesizing a superman who does all three at once. The people I would hold up as examples are extremely high-status for manly things. Dave Grohl is frequently a sweet, mild-mannered "nice guy". He's also a super-famous musician in masculine bands, looks very masculine, and practices a lot of "acceptable" emotion b…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 07:59 PM
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This also explains another thing I didn't get: why the goal is to create someone she's not interested in (see: http://www.theonion.com/articles/girlfriend-changes-man-into-someone-shes-not-inter,1507/) Even hamstering didn't seem to explain how incredibly maladaptive it is to turn what you like into what you don't. As a status thing though? It makes total sense. Take a guy, tame him, fancy him up, and everyone can see that you're powerful and desirable. As for the guy, walk the hell away and go …
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 05:23 PM
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I'm moving into theory here, but I think you're getting at why we hear "There are no emotional men anymore" instead of simply "You should be more emotional". Anything which has been a purely masculine domain has fallen under pressure from feminism and social correctness. The result is that there's almost no space to be proudly and unambiguously masculine anymore (most people can't be Dave Grohl or Steve Irwin). As you say, it's possible to be masculine, but you have to constantly prove it. Witho…
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 04:09 PM
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What a fucking head-case. She talks about allowing him to continue having feelings she doesn't approve of. She makes a subtle reference to years spent drinking, partying, and fucking random guys, and then latched onto Phillip because he had an apartment and good job. He's just lucky he had a bit more spine than she bargained for, because this screams "if not now, then five years after they had a kid". He gets to keep his shit and avoid lawyer fees for this bitch.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 02:19 PM
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Thank you! I never understood this theory even though I'd seen it a dozen times. You added the missing piece: "because she's better than those other women". It never made sense that women would choose assholes as projects instead of just choosing a nicer guy - most people buy intact houses, not fixer-uppers. It makes total sense when it's about status and validation, not just about him. The point isn't just to have a guy who likes her, it's to prove that she's more likable than the others.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 02:14 PM
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This is it. In addition to circumstances changing, manliness has changed. The king's enforcers were "real men" just by their job, no questions asked. I suspect that a stunt man/astronaut/MMA fighter badass today could get away with crying fairly well too. If your masculinity is beyond question, the rules start to change.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 02:10 PM
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In my experience this is really a request for guys who can access their feelings. They still want you to be carved from stone, but you're even more appealing if you can get to an emotional side to write a song or look sad when they talk about their problems. It's not women wanting men to be emotional, it's about wanting to uncork that bit of softness when it's convenient for women. It's part of why ideals like chivalry and bushido are shot to hell these days - being "soft" was fine for guys who …
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 02:08 PM
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That last point is a big one. At the point where you have or plan kids, giving your life for them isn't surprising. Giving some years in a less than happy relationship suddenly makes a lot of sense given that standard.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 01:58 PM
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Damn, this makes a lot of sense. On an abstract level tears should be more alarming when they're from someone who doesn't cry, but I didn't stop and look at how each gender views tears.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 01:55 PM
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Thanks, and I owe TRP an apology for arriving that way. I felt pretty sure I knew what this place was about, but I started to go through it all when I didn't see what I expected. I think it was "most responsible teenager" that really struck a chord, and a month in TRP is already improving my life. I think the thing that surprised me most is that it seems to be making women around me happier too, which is a far cry from what I first thought.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 01:50 PM
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Surprised to be here. I believed that, and left it there for honesty's sake. It's late, and I'm a bit drunk and going to ramble. The short version is that this isn't some kind of subtle trolling, it's an awakening from someone who hated TRP, came to find more evidence, and realized that it was actually a pretty honest and insightful place. I'm one of the many new subs from that fiasco, and a look at my comment history since then should make it pretty clear I'm not trolling. My previous exposure …
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 04:24 AM
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He's mastered just about everything from TRP to the 48 laws. If only he weren't so fucked up and damaged internally, he'd basically be a superhero.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/14 07:17 PM
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The end of that Don Draper quote you mentioned is every bit as TRP as the beginning. Don mentions that most rules and expectations are there to make us forget that we're alone and mortal, but that he lives with an awareness of those things. His date does a great narrator-stand with "I don't think I realized it until this moment, but it must be hard being a man, too." Spending your time aware that life is limited and that no one can care about you like you care about yourself is painful, but it's…
/r/TheRedPill04/08/14 06:39 PM
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Most of them are "model standard" - it's hard to dispute that when it comes to someone who actually does (mainstream) modeling.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/14 02:56 PM
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This is where Community and even moreso Archer shine - now and again, they'll make a joke that the vast majority of people won't get. BBT tosses out physics terms as part of easy jokes that don't actually require any knowledge or insight to understand.
/r/TheRedPill04/08/14 02:54 PM
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I agree with about 98% of this, but I want to ask about the "bottom third" stat for teachers. I've heard this on several occasions, but I've never found a decent source for it. I'd love one if you have it? Regardless, it's good to see a solid general explanation for newcomers, thanks.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 03:27 PM
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Hilariously, that might actually work. He'd be depressed hearing it, but he'd either go into denial and walk because she doesn't respect him, or he'd hit the gym, get a hobby, get his shit together.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:50 PM
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Woah, a conspiracy theory just hit me. He's way more aware than he's being given credit for here. The timing, the passive-aggressive nature of it, the silence, it's all to drive the hamster to an affair, and therefore produce an at-fault divorce. He's done, and handling it this way to ensure he gets out cleanly. Or not, but it's a fun thought.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:16 PM
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fibbonaci makes a good point: it's only gross if it's actually a workout. If it's watching TV on a low-resistance elliptical for 10 minutes, guys probably wouldn't shower either.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:14 PM
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Flexibility. Lots of bodybuilders run into huge problems with flexibility as they age and drop out of peak performance - even with regular exercise you tend to pack on some fat where you had muscle and you stiffen up at joints. There are some campaigns of older athletes pushing people to stretch, do yoga, and generally work out things other than muscles. It's far from the only way - good stretching is just fine whether or not it's yoga, but it's actually important to not be the guy doing bro-spl…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:12 PM
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Laughing in someone's face is easier with a doctor on your side. The cost/benefit of doing it the other way isn't great, because it's a problem forever if you were wrong. Saying "give it a day and see" would probably have been my reaction, though.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 03:08 PM
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Thanks! I'm fairly new to all of this, so it's nice to hear. Going through Rollo's discussion on ultimatums is actually really informative, and it reinforces the general idea that they're dangerous if you can't enforce them, and not that productive even if you do follow through. Now to try and go from theory to a personal understanding of that difference...
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 06:57 PM
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I hadn't realized that Kotaku fell under Gawker network, sorry to feed them any traffic. I'll correct that and resubmit.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 04:08 AM
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The thing that stands out to me in that part is that the conversation never has to be "you disrespected me" or "I'm less of a man if you flirt with other people". The conversation can be as simple as "You were flirting with him, that's not ok when you're in a relationship with me. Don't." I get the "don't be overt" argument, but I don't buy this idea that it means you can't say things about the relationship. Setting a boundary usually means talking, because the point is to be unambiguous.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 01:53 AM
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Sadly, "right" doesn't much matter here. Courts disagree, and so he'd be putting himself in an at-fault position regardless of whether we call that justified. That doesn't mean it's not happening, but it's equally possibly that he's just unhappy with it and sees no options. He wouldn't be the only man I know in that position.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 04:07 PM
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He has kids who he presumably wants to stay involved with, and money he'd like to keep. Don't underestimate the possibility that he doesn't see any other choice.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 03:39 PM
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Oh Jesus the one about the man in charge of feminism is well executed. McGowan claimed that one of the main reasons the movement enjoyed so little success in the past was that the previous management was often too timid and passive and should have been much more results-focused. The Onion certainly knows where to hit hardest.
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 03:35 PM
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I'm trying to picture any guy I know doubling down like that. Aside from the high likelihood of finding yourself in a brawl, pretty much any man would hear "We can let this slide" and immediately walk the fuck away. You're not getting away with that shit, and even if you're a dedicated thief you can just walk a hundred yards away and do it again. Trying this takes a special kind of delusion.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 06:12 AM
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I agree, and I think your point is an important one. The only true sin on TRP is dishonesty/faulty reasoning, not "objectionable" views. As long as you're conveying something both true and relevant, it's the reader's task to understand and employ what they've been told. There are a lot of "lessons" here, but not much in the way of "answers". Finding those is a task for every person individually.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 02:23 AM
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I totally understand that people tend to arrive at TRP while hurt and emotional, and you certainly don't have to engage with people decrying the sub. I'm just trying to offer a (I hope) useful observation to those who do end up defending the sub - they can better achieve that goal if they understand how things look to other people versus how they are on TRP.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 02:19 AM
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AllYouCanEat makes an interesting point, but I'd like to toss out a different justification. I think that, subconsciously, it's because women are scared of this state of affairs. If a successful, single guy sees that he has time, money, and freedom because he's single, he won't settle for a shitty relationship. If other guys see how well this works for him, they're more likely to become/stay single, or realize that they can demand more balance in their relationships. It's like making sure your k…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 06:59 PM
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The key point about a nuclear response is that you can't care when you deliver it. Saying "Oh yeah, well you're a stuck up bitch who's not as hot as she thinks!" is hostile, but you're clearly still deeply involved and talking to her on equal/adversarial terms. The way to not sound bitter is to make it clear that you're not engaging with her enough to have emotions or continue the conversation. A "nuclear" response requires showing that she doesn't get to engage with you as an equal, which makes…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 06:04 PM
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This starts to get at something that I think needs to be stressed even more: the difference between teaching and discussion. There are a lot of comments on TRP along the lines of "That scorpion is such a cunt, it doesn't know a good frog when it sees one, I can't wait until it's old and ugly and alone!" Someone usually explains why that attitude isn't helpful, but a lot of anonymous someones feel the same hurt and upvote it. The guy saying that usually does hate women, at least right at the mome…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 03:47 PM
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