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CMVSoloandthewookiee/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:19 PM
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Bro , believe me no " manosphere " is silencing you Of course not, I've been dealing with manosphere doofuses for quite awhile. 😂😂😂 We feel sorry for you Oh no, virgin misogynists pity me, my one weakness!!!! 😂😂😂 You thing men hate you cause you're married . Oh goodness no. I thing[sic] men here hate me because I'm a man dispelling their bullshit and they can't use their usual excuse of "women are liars," so they have to fall back to a new line of crap. You've chosen, "you're married so therefor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:55 AM
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Sure. There's also "inexcusably ignorant."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:29 AM
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Yea you're obviously married😂😂😂, the way you think is litteraly what married modern men think Hey yet another thing that supposedly explains why I think the way I do. 😂😂😂 Red pillers all have a different explanation because it is incomprehensible to them that any man might disagree with their bullshit 😂😂😂 so they have to invent any reason they can to silence him 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:07 AM
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Did you notice how you went from "is" to "prefers?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:48 PM
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History.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:55 PM
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Because I've discussed this "policy" with other dudes and while they are happy to demand things like immediate sex, threesomes, or anal as long as she has done it for an ex, that policy suddenly vanishes when it's something they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:46 PM
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But it's a policy I've been more strict about as I've grown more secure with myself. Sure, it's still immature and insecure though. And I 100% guarantee you very selectively apply this policy, despite the fact you claim it is strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:35 PM
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Yeah, so it's the way red pillers use it and it's a meaningless term used to villainize women regardless of who they date. A woman can be above her boyfriend in 9 out of 10 categories, but if her boyfriend is above her in the 10th, she will be declared hypergamous. It has even been argued that a woman simply dating a man who is taller than her makes her hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:34 PM
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No, I don't care what they did with exes. I know the things I want from a relationship and whether they did those things with exes is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:31 PM
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Hypergamy as red pillers use the term? No, it's just an excuse to villainize women no matter who they date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:29 PM
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It's not, red pillers just want to apply this "rule" to the things they like and ignore it for things they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:05 PM
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Lol ok bud
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:01 PM
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Swing and a miss bro, I'm married :) You think I need to dunk on red pillers for sex? Lol, nah, this is just for fun and also because they're an embarrassment to my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:45 PM
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Well, obviously, that would make most guys feel like they aren't desired. Not really? I don't demand something from partners just because they've done it before. That's super immature and insecure behavior, just like I wouldn't want women demanding things from me just because I've done it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:43 PM
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Yes, as we all know, every woman blows a dude in the bathroom for coke.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:16 PM
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What do you think sexual dynamics are It's an umbrella term for the vast and complex reasons of who, how, and why people have sex with each other. women dont engage in sex unless they're attracted to a man, Not only is that not true, you're unbelievably naive if you think the sole predictor of how quickly a woman has sex with someone is how attracted she is to him. How is that dudes can understand that men will have sex with women they aren't attracted to, can have sex with women they don't even…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:03 PM
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Hahahaha like you would believe any answer that wasn't 1 or 0. I can certainly tell you I have far more experience than the average red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:08 PM
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But what if you settled for someone because you liked their other qualities, just they weren't quite as affectionate as you would like, but you chalked it up to "well, that's just the way she is" but then you saw the video and it was a completely different side of her that ahe had never shown you? Nah, don't care. If she's affectionate enough for me, I don't care what she did with exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:31 PM
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You haven't shared an experience and your feelings are absurd. Attraction determines how quickly she sleeps with a man. If you have a child-like understanding of sexual dynamics, sure. If you actually grow up, you will learn that there are many factors contributing to how quickly someone sleeps with a person. Nothing insecure about that, its literally a fact. Stating something is a fact doesn't make it a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:25 PM
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https://www.gov.uk/student-finance/new-fulltime-students Doesn't say anything about gender here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:22 PM
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That's not unfair or uncommon. I've had plenty of split dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:22 PM
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I like affection and I want that from a partner regardless of whether they did it with their ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:20 PM
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You must be using a different definition of maintenance than I'm used to because that doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:19 PM
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Affirmative action is not an "anti male agenda" and being against affirmative action is explicitly "pro white men." That's why affirmative action exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:18 PM
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it rarely is about looks. That is total horse shit. It is entirely about looks, that's why they're called a "trophy," because you put it on the shelf so everyone can look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:16 PM
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It's not valid at all and believing that you're second string because she doesn't fuck you right away is immature and insecure as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:14 PM
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Well I'm a guy, but I know what I want from a relationship regardless of whether they did it in a previous relationship. Demanding that you should get the same treatment because some other dude did is childish as fuck and, let's be clear, it only applies to the parts red pillers like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:14 PM
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You referenced two separate but related phenomena No, I didn't. I referenced one very well understood topic of nonverbal communication that every human being engages in every day of their lives, and one completely invented topic where red pillers delude themselves into believing they have clairvoyance into a woman's sexual history because they read a post about evolutionary psychology once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:07 PM
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No, I don't want to date whores at all I don't think you have to worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:47 PM
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But that's exactly what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:45 PM
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The classic "if she has ever done it for another guy, she has to do it for me" red pill bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:40 PM
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A red piller can't address the argument so deflects with insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:37 PM
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I did read your post, how come you keep deflecting from comments that point out the central flaw of your premise?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:33 PM
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I seriously don't know how long it's gonna take for red pillers to have any grasp of the nuances and subtleties of attraction. Then again, if they could do that, they probably wouldn't be red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:32 PM
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Most of the time women will tell you with subtle hints "Women need to be more explicit when they're interested in guys! Also you can secretly tell the fastest she's ever slept with a guy."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:30 PM
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Oh there's way more. Men have no standards and will fuck anything / Men have tons of standards but can't say any of them because of feminism Women should have as few partners as possible / women should sleep with any man she dates as fast as possible Casual sex is terrible, ruins you for future partners, and increases the probability that you'll cheat / men aren't getting enough casual sex Women's standards are too high / If a woman has a bad partner, it's her fault for not having better standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:16 PM
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Great, then you have to date multiple people to figure it out. So either you want low body counts or you want women sleeping with dates as fast as possible. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:09 PM
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Please, share this magical talent that tells who the right person is on the first try.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:06 PM
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That's true of pretty much everything red pillers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:00 PM
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Of course. No matter what women do, it's wrong. Just like women can't have too many partners yet should sleep with any man they date as fast as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:58 PM
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Hey how come you keep ignoring that people are pointing out that a 50/50 relationship is not meant to be exactly 50/50 in all things at all times?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:55 PM
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No. Was your comment supposed to be clever?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:21 AM
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You don't see them. Wander around any Walmart and you'll see people of every shape, size, and income with partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:18 AM
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I certainly know it's not from the "anti male agenda."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:16 AM
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No Time To Die made $775 million dollars and has an 83% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. What exactly do you think is in decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:52 AM
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Alrighty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:47 AM
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Neither have I, yet, of the two of us, you're the one who is fantasizing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:40 AM
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Bud, I'm fine where I'm at. You're the one who was very focused on being beat up by straight dudes and being fucked in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:10 AM
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Just thought it is relevant to know if you are dating a man or a woman. Ohhhhhh, you're the homophobic/biphobic bigot from yesterday who thinks bisexuals hate straight men because of your weird fantasies. Nah, if I was talking about dating a man, I would have said "boyfriend." But what a sad attempt to try and use my sexuality against me. Like did you really think that would fluster me? Or are you just trying to make sure all the other bigots know I'm bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:23 AM
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No such thing as "male girlfriends." But nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:29 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:51 AM
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Some women expect the men to pay on first dates, that's quite different from women keeping a ledger of who pays for what. I agree, there are many delusional people on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:49 AM
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They don't, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:43 AM
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Probably 50/50. It wasn't really a thing we kept ledgers of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:38 AM
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3 of my last 4 girlfriends, including the woman who is now my wife, out earned me and all four had more education than me. Like virtually everything that is brought up on this sub, it's not the big deal that dudes here make it out to be. Also the anti-male agendas in higher education that push men away This isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:37 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty gross too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:16 PM
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No they don’t. Yes they do. They openly rant about how disgusted they are about women who do porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:11 PM
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You seek out women fighting at waffle house? Like you'll drive around and find a waffle house with women fighting in it? You have favorite waffle houses to watch fights in? Also, nobody wants to see a relative in porn, that's clearly not what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:09 PM
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Correct, if you're being her friend with the sole intent of trying to date her later on, that's manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:16 PM
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Why are men still shamed nowadays by women for watching porn (in a relationship or even single) but its okay for a woman or someone they know to start up an OF because its female empowerment Oh, that's because the world you described is made up. Dudes watching porn is so common it's basically considered universal while women doing Only Fans is still heavily stigmatized. This is really just a post to complain about women doing Only Fans while also making it seem like women are the hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:11 PM
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Sorry, you're still dodging my question. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:38 PM
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Let's say right in the middle of sex for 5 seconds I don't give consent but before and after those 5 seconds there's consent, do you still think its rapey? If they keep going after you say to stop, yes, that's rapey, even if it's only for five seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:38 PM
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Okay just to start, you understand that the joke here is that he's making an obviously sleazy and gross comparison, right? Secondly, and it's depressing this needs to be said, you don't negotiate partners into consenting for sex. If they want to, they'll say yes. Saying no and continuing to make out with you is not them secretly saying "I just need more convincing."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:46 PM
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I mean it doesn't, but even getting many women still doesn't make it a formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:39 PM
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And yet millions of men are successful without those things. Apparently that's not the formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:36 PM
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There are patterns, patterns people study and apply. Millions of people study and work in finance. And the vast majority of them can't beat the market. I'm perfectly happy with this metaphor. If it's so bad, then please share the formula that guarantees wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:35 PM
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Who said it doesn't count? Are you saying a person who eats 5 Twinkies in their life can never be said to have high standards for food?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:59 PM
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Yep, and there are patterns to financial markets, yet there is still no formula for success otherwise everyone would be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:58 PM
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So then women don't just want Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:32 PM
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Lol why won't you answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:21 PM
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Many women end up dating guys who were friends first. You're just making an unsupported claim that women would date more than they already do if they cared about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:45 PM
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Sexual attraction as an undefinable mixture of qualities that is constantly shifting and varies wildly from person to person. There is no guaranteed formula for sexual attraction because if there was, everyone would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:44 PM
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Hold up, do you believe a person's standards are dictated entirely by the lowest they are at any point? Like a person can't say they have high standards for food if they've eaten one Twinkie in their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:38 PM
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And don't forget, when she finds out about the cheating, she's going to divorce him anyway and then he's going to post on Reddit with a shocked Pikachu face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:52 PM
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Nah, blue pillers don't say that, red pillers just need to pretend they do. It's better known as a strawman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:44 PM
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The Homosexual Sex Prison Police State Ohhh you're just homophobic, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:40 PM
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https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Danth%27s_Law#:~:text=Danth's%20Law,has%20probably%20very%20badly%20lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:38 PM
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And yet average men get laid, get dates, and get relationships all the time, yet are not chads. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:21 PM
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Yes, everyone knows that the only two men in the world are 6'4" jacked, rich, handsome dudes with huge dicks and fat short men with a micropenis who works at McDonald's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:19 PM
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Where do red pillers acquire this super power to see everyone's sexual history at all times? The redpill says a man who has looks or physical attributes (handsome, tall, ripped, deep voice, hung, well dressed, athletic), is rich, popular and charismatic is going to be attractive to women, and every one of those traits you take away, the less desirable he will be. Oh my no. Red pill says you must be hot, tall, rich, and high status. They are quite clear that women care very little for personality…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:18 PM
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But they haven't. That's why they don't understand why they are supposedly 5s yet can't get women who are 5s. Because they're not 5s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:19 AM
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The point is red pillers don't have a clue what women find attractive, which is interesting since that's supposedly their whole thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:33 AM
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Where did I say that my statements aren't connected? Oh so now they are connected just not in the way I said they were, in a totally different, completely unspecified way. The way you are routinely putting the (mostly) heterosexual men on this subreddit down There's those red pill lies. "I can't actually address your argument so I'm going to invent a new one and pretend like that's what you said." Nah, I put red pillers down because they're an embarrassment to my gender and they follow a deeply …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:57 PM
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You should read my comment again. I said that you being bi explains a lot. That's were my sentence ended. Lol so you were just making two completely disconnected statements. Sure thing bud. So what does my being bi explain, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:02 PM
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Where did I say that you fool around with men because you hate them? Where you said me being bi "explains a lot" as to why I'm supposedly a man hater. But, like I said, no one has ever accused red pillers of having common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:44 PM
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That's pretty much all a myth (or at least a gross misrepresentation). https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/ZLmYMNjkXb
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:40 PM
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Why do women cause dead bedrooms Why are you assuming women are "causing" dead bedrooms, especially when married people have more sex than anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:39 PM
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I hate men so much I fool around with them is certainly a take, but nobody ever accused red pillers of having common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:30 PM
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It is easy for women to get sex as long as they don't care about enjoying it or being attracted to the other person. It is also easy for men to get sex as long as they don't care about enjoying it or being attracted to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:41 PM
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As a bi dude, I'll just say there are a lot of men who identify as straight that like sucking dick and giving hand jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:16 PM
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The women's suffrage movement started in 1848. The 19th amendment didn't pass until 1920. You're telling me it was men who did all that work? How does this undo the Holocaust and slavery?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:45 PM
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Except feminists treat equality like a one way street exclusively to the benefit of women. No, feminists work for equality for women. Men who would ostensibly work for equality for men's issues prefer to silence women, much like you are trying to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:41 PM
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I mean m'en literally gave women the right to vote, and women also actively participated in the holocaust. And women fought for the right to vote and men fought for the right to annihilate Jews and enslave black people. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:33 PM
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so we can tone down this stupid gender war feminists are waging. There is no gender war. There is equality and inequality. Feminists are fighting for equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:31 PM
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So women not using men as wallets is putting men on a pedestal to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:26 PM
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Look, it's real easy. If you want credit for men legislating women's rights, you also take the blame for men perpetrating the Holocaust and slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:07 PM
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Women are demanding nudes from men and insisting on casual sex without meeting in public first? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:05 PM
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Hey good job being exactly the type of person she was talking about. Silly women, thinking they know what they're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:04 PM
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They don't swipe at all anymore because I'm married, but good try.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:01 PM
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Meeting a woman in public before sex is not putting a woman on a pedestal, but not meeting a woman in public before sex is also not putting on a pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:00 PM
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So in your mind, meeting a person in public before sex or not losing your shit because she said "bro" is "putting women on a pedestal?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:36 AM
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It used to be a huge boon in online dating. I was able to turn most of my matches into IRL dates just not being a lunatic. Now I feel like many women have gotten tired of sitting through the weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:35 AM
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What are you calling "frivolous icks?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:32 AM
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You can get easy sex and attention right now, it's just not necessarily sex you want or sex you'll enjoy (i.e., the same world women live in).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:16 AM
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Maybe they are. But I'm saying the red pillers around here engage in the same hypocrisy as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:14 AM
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Absolutely in most cases yes And yet so many dudes here are chronically single. Seems like you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:39 AM
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Women are independent, safe, and doing well now that men have tamed the world for them. Literally every single thing in a woman's life that gives her comfort, stability, and safety, outside of social connections, depends almost entirely on the work of men. Classic red pillers. "I don't want any of the blame for the bad things men do, but I would like all the credit." Women don't owe you shit, especially not for things others did, and especially not for things women fought for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:39 AM
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Men go after fertility, women go after status. It’s biological It's really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:11 AM
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"I know what this woman wants better than she does."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:08 AM
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That's not a narrative. There have always been dudes who happily fuck lots of a women and then call them sluts. It's the same brand of hypocrisy that red pillers engage in now, just without all the fucking. They want to fuck, but they don't yet still criticize women for having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:07 AM
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What about not understanding women are different explains going on a rant because she used the word "bro?" If a guy did that to me, I'd think he's insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:05 AM
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Financial stability is what plays a big role, not simply money. If you're working 40 hours a week in an office job or a trade or something like that, money isn't the reason you're single. I've worked in the same profession for the past 15 years and I'm making about triple what I made when I started, and there was no significant difference in results between when I was making less vs when I was making more. The single biggest improvement was putting 6 good pictures on my profile and writing a fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:02 AM
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Can I just get you to say "I think this woman is wrong about what she says she is looking for in a partner?" I would just like to get that on record.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:07 AM
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She's obviously referring to being single. But good job telling a woman she's wrong about what she thinks about herself and being exactly the type of person she was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:05 AM
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What behavior listed here do you see as putting women on a pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:03 AM
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The same is true if they stay in their home country. And they have the added benefit of actually having something in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:58 AM
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Of course not. There also aren't boatloads of women waiting to throw themselves at some gringo who doesn't speak the language or know the culture, but they don't want to hear that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:36 AM
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A lot of men have gone overseas and many have the same story- they've had more success with women abroad. Yeah I keep hearing that, and I keep hearing that dudes are going to be leaving in droves, and then...nothing. The reason a lot of men don't go overseas is because they don't have the time or money to do so. It is hard for most people to be able to just live in a foreign country where they may not speak the language, and be able to support themselves financially There's also some guys who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:34 AM
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Cool, that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of dudes who advertise passport broism are never going to do it. I literally have 5 chicks interested in me who are located overseas and I put in very little effort. Wait you met these women in India or you're talking to women online in India?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:29 AM
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Yes! She would send me screenshots of messages where these dudes would just say the craziest shit out of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:28 AM
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When what changes? That statement almost sounds like we are engaged in a massive battle of who's more chicken No, but I know dudes here keep acting like they are. Women are far more prepared to walk away from the table than men are. Men saying "well maybe I will too!" is not a threat to someone who is already prepared to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:12 AM
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There's that too. And while it might not be the same exact issues with dating on apps, there's a lot of overlap and I think it ultimately comes down to so many dudes making it unbearable for women on apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:07 PM
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The root cause is women are more independent than ever with regards to their own economic survival, so they're less willing than ever to put up with bullshit. They can live happy, fulfilling lives without men, so if a man can't improve that, why should they bother? Red pill dudes try to frame this as women having unrealistic standards driven by pseudoscientific explanations and conspiracy theories about Chads having all the sex, but the truth is much simpler. A while back, a woman posted here so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:05 PM
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The male/female ratio is a big part of that, but I don’t know why the ratio is the way it is. My friend was on apps for awhile looking for a FWB and it was astonishing how the vast majority of dudes she matched with just completely fumbled the ball at the 1 yard line. The majority of dudes just made zero effort to get to know her once they knew she was looking for something casual. You can see this attitude reflected all over by guys who are baffled that a woman would want to get to know a guy b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:55 PM
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Western societies have given up on the idea of sustainable or stable population growth through native birth rates Oh man, it's been awhile since someone chicken littled about this. and are entering a phase where most of our population growth will be generated by immigration. You are also entering a phase where developing countries will become developed countries and fewer and fewer people will emigrate from them. So how will our relationships and dating lives be impacted by the fact more of our …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:43 PM
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What part of "your survival is dependent on keeping someone else happy" is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:38 PM
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gender confused assholes When in doubt, blame trans people. What's funny is that is the exact same way people used to talk about students who were neurodivergent. "Kids with ADHD or on the spectrum, it's just coddling bullshit!" And the sad thing is you will never see the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:13 PM
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Hey, it's a good point. I really wanted it to help. I tried a number of therapists before giving up. And that really sucks it didn't help you. That's still not the same as "therapy can't help men."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:40 PM
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It's not, but it's great so many men like spreading that bullshit and then wringing their hands when they see statistics on men's mental health. You, personally, are part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:39 PM
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Right? I've said that so many times. Like what are y'all waiting for? Just go already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:05 PM
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I'm married, guy. But good try, you'll land that one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:05 PM
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Bro I'm married. Swing and a miss. But what a surprise that a red piller is completely incapable of comprehending that there are men that don't agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:04 PM
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It doesn't and it isn't, but I know you need to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:02 PM
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They are on reddit because this is stuff they can't say to people they interact with in real life. Men complain constantly, you just don't see it as complaining. Therapy not working for you is not the same as therapy not working. And let's be clear about something, you have to actually want to be in therapy and for therapy to help you in order for therapy to help you. If you go into therapy determined that it won't help, then it's not going to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:02 PM
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But you didn't read the whole thing, did you? I did, that's why I know your title is a lie, and then you tried lying about what your own post said, even though it's literally at the top. Do I seem red pill to you? Red pill, red pill adjacent, parrots red pill beliefs but does not identify as red pill. It's easier to just call them all red pill because y'all believe 95% the same shit. If men complain all the time and women complain more than men, You've provided nothing to support that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:38 PM
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And as soon as you actually find the hypocrisy, I'd love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:15 PM
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Men are unhinged emotionally stunted maniacs, 19 upvotes. Oh boy, you left out some important context there. But every woman I see in my office who is trying to or recently separated - their husbands are losing their shit and acting like unhinged emotionally stunted maniacs. Fun fact, the most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she tries to leave. Apparently men killing themselves at higher rates is because theyre finally seeing the consequences of their actions, 138 u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:13 PM
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Nope, but that's what red pillers et al desperately want men to believe. But thank you for tacitly acknowledging that red pillers use "hypergamy" as a baseless criticism to make women the bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:05 PM
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Hey look, another red piller taking what someone said and pretending they said something completely different. Up next: "Blue pillers say wedding vows are meaningless!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:03 PM
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They don't, that's the point. If even 1% of the dudes who proselytize passport bros have actually done it, I will eat my shoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:01 PM
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I never said "men don't benefit at all". The title of your post is "Why therapy doesn't work for men." Even if it is from 1978, does it mean it is not relevant? I've been told by red pillers that information and experiences as recent as 2018 is no longer relevant to "modern men," but now I'm supposed to accept it from 1978? Nah, sorry bud, you don't get it both ways. Where, I don't see a link. Stop lying. r/whoosh We are talking about real life not here. Like I said, men complain all the time, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:59 PM
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Everyone knows if a man dates a woman with bigger tits and longer hair than him, he's hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:19 PM
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You didn't read the first link which said women benefit more A) I did read it, you're not the first dude who has posted that link to shout about how therapy doesn't work B) it is from 1978 C) it said women benefit more, not "men don't benefit at all" Your source? Sure, it's right next to yours. Men complain here bcz they can't do in real life, isn't real life different than online? Like I said, men complain all the time, you just don't count it as complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:14 PM
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but I think very few women are okay with the word hypergamy. Because the way it's used by red pillers is just an excuse to bitch about women's standards. A woman can be better than her boyfriend in 9 out of 10 categories, but if he's better than her in the 10th, she's declared hypergamous. Some red pillers have even said that a woman dating a man who is taller than her is enough to be hypergamous. It's just bullshit used to make women the villains.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:56 PM
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I hate this "therapy doesn't work on men" bullshit. All it does is discourage men who can benefit from therapy from seeking therapy. Yes, therapy works on men. No, it is not a magic cure-all that will solve all your problems. No, you may not get the best therapist on the first try. That doesn't mean it doesn't work. All this is is an excuse to bitch that society doesn't take men's mental health seriously because when the obvious solution is suggested, you can scream back "THERAPY DOESN'T WORK ON…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:45 PM
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Divorce attorneys tell women to trump up abuse allegations if at all possible in most divorces and custody battles Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:26 PM
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People don't leave happy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:49 PM
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Because when they go overseas and inevitably strike out, they'll be forced to acknowledge that western women are not the problem. As long as they talk about "I'm going to Thailand to get a girlfriend!" and never actually do it, they can keep up the fantasy that it's western women keeping them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:46 PM
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It's definitely a cop out frequently used to dismiss women rather than addressing what they're saying. Whether the men who say it genuinely believe women are being illogical, I'm not sure, but believing it doesn't make them right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:37 PM
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men everywhere are waking up and no amount of gaslighting by embittered women will reverse this. Oh no! Women will continue not to date red pill dudes! Most men are struggling to find their equivalent *What they believe is their equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:42 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:14 PM
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No. Financial stability is pretty important. Someone who makes comparable money to me opens up a lot of opportunities for things like travel, nice restaurants, concerts, sporting events, etc. Also stop treating TikTok like it's real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:36 PM
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Yes, business relationships are a type of relationship, but that's clearly not what we're discussing on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:30 PM
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They wouldn't get pregnant considering females would have their fallopian tubes cut and stuff. Why would "females" (better known as women) have their tubes tied? Just give every boy a vasectomy at like age 8. The women would not have the risk of getting pregnant which means they would be willing to open up more. They still risk STDs, sexual violence, and sexual dissatisfaction. How else would this effect the dating market? Well firstly, such a technology is so absurdly advanced that the society …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:05 PM
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You can use whatever definition you want. For me, dating that is contingent on a paycheck is not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:51 PM
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That's nonsense. Perhaps red pillers feel differently, but most men value more than just looks in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:56 AM
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Neither. I'm not attracted to 1 and 2 isn't a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:31 AM
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There's a great quote from True Detective season 1, where Woody Harrelson and his wife are talking about their very young daughter making a sexually explicit drawing in school. "Girls always know before boys." "Why is that?" "Because they have to."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:01 AM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:47 PM
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I didn't say men are a monolith. I said red pillers would rather complain about nonsensical bullshit than address men's issues because their goal is not to help men, but rather find reasons to blame women. If that's not you, great!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:47 PM
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Not really. Red pillers repeat their arguments continually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:17 PM
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Pretty much every piece of advice attributed to blue pillers isn't actually from blue pillers at all, it's virtually always red pillers willfully misrepresenting what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:56 PM
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Yeah, see, you weren't ever really a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:53 PM
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It's very easy for women to have sex with practically any man they want. As long as they don't care about enjoying it. You keep leaving that part off. Even a toothless meth head hooker can make $1000 a night because it's so easy for women to have sex. And you think she enjoys those?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:25 PM
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Please, explain to me how "If I don't get sex, I'm going to snap and hurt people as much as possible" is not him saying he is owed sex. I can't wait to hear this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:37 PM
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There's that wonderful lack of empathy Believing you're entitled to sex and threatening society if you are not given it shows an astounding lack of empathy, so maybe fix your own house before worrying about everyone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:08 PM
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People in this Reddit sub don't represent most men But the red pill men on this sub represent the red pill men on this sub, and the red pill men on this sub believe it is so easy for women to get sex because, after all, the red pill men on this sub would sleep with anyone who offers (they won't, but that's a whole other discussion). The red pill men on this sub also frequently state they don't care about women's pleasure. So, joining it all together, the red pill men on this sub believe it is ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:06 PM
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Society is not going to "provide" you sex. Stop thinking you are entitled to something you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:40 PM
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Push any person far enough and at one point they will snap. TIL not giving men the sex they believe they are entitled to is "pushing men [too far]"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:26 PM
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You don't have to give shit to society. Go find a plot of land in the middle of nowhere, live off the grid as a subsistence farmer and make your own rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:25 PM
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This is incorrect unless you're assuming most men suck in bed. I don't know if most men do, but certainly a lot of them do. You don't even have to take my word for it, dudes around here love to tell you all the ways they don't give a shit about women's pleasure and how ridiculous it is that women would expect a hookup to make her cum. These are the men that are available to women when red pillers talk about how easy it is for women to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:03 PM
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mens mental health is largely a product of 2 things: the decline in mens quality of life thanks to the economy being shit for millennials whole lives and dating being a dumpster fire. Source? We need to fix those things not treat the symptoms by shouting men into therapy which is of dubious usefulness to them Of course, the red pill "mental health services won't help mental health issues" argument. The real reason is that acknowledging mental health services are useful would put you on the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:01 PM
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First and foremost, your mom hasn't dated people anywhere near your age, she has no clue of the prevailing norms and trends. Secondly, identifying your particular dating strategy and goals requires a knowledge of your child's intimacy that very few parents desire. Finally, you can't rely on your parents to teach you social rules because there is no book of social rules. They are unwritten, vague, and changing. You give your children opportunities to socialize and establish boundaries of behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:57 PM
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And there's the red pill mass shooter mentality. Always interesting to see the mask come off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:51 PM
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Sure, if you're an android. Back here in reality, though, your mom cannot and should not be responsible for teaching you how to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 PM
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what are our "biggest issues" then? Men's mental health. Because feminists/leftists act like its that we cant wear a dress and cry despite literally no men wanting that. A) there are many men who want one or both of those things B) feminists are concerned with women's issues C) most feminists would probably agree the biggest issue for them is abortion or violence against women Its just concern trolling to make it look like they care about mens issues while ignoring the actual issues. No, that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:48 PM
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It's not your mom's job to teach you how to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:33 PM
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If I am being nice, productive and civilized and I am not getting what I want from society I am being shortchanged and I will stop providing that niceness, production and civilized behavior. And you will find out very quickly how intolerant others will be of uncivilized behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:32 PM
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That's an emotionalist argument. That's a common sense argument. Hungry kids aren't going to do as well. You're arguing that schools are over funded yet we can't afford to meet even the most basic needs of the students.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:24 PM
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They may be the most common issues brought up, although even that I disagree with, but nobody in the manosphere thinks that those are the biggest or most severe issues facing men, not even close. So they just want to talk the most about minor issues. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:46 PM
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Bro, I'm a fucking professional economist whom has seen the studies. I'm sure. https://edworkingpapers.com/sites/default/files/ai19-58_v1.pdf For every $1,000 more per student spent, dropout rates decreased 2%, college enrollment increased 9%, and college graduation increased 4%. http://edworkingpapers.com/sites/default/files/ai19-25.pdf Increasing in funding showed significant improvements in test scores of low income districts. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3430766 Increa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:44 PM
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This is just blatantly false It absolutely is not. I have spent plenty of time in manosphere spaces and that is exactly how I know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:31 PM
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Plenty of studies show that the US has consistently increased funding to public education in general and has gotten zero returns (measured as academic success by students) in response, so the idea that we just need to "give more money" to the system to fix men's issues is questionable at the very least. Bro, we can't even afford to feed poor kids lunch and you're going to tell me public schools are over funded? Plus, the people currently in control of public education in the USA (and in most oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:30 PM
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There are a few issues that get brought up that actually are of importance, like men's mental health and educational outcomes in boys. However, the manosphere only uses those things to throw in women's and feminists' faces, they never actually propose solving those problems since both issues would rely on heavily leftist policies that feminism largely supports. Instead, the manosphere acts like the biggest issues facing men are who pays for first dates and mandatory paternity testing. In short, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:43 AM
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It's amazing how many dudes around here would rather subject women who don't know any better to bad sex for life rather than just...get better at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:21 AM
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Are you sure? These men who don't date or sleep with men seem awfully confident about what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:02 AM
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Why is it that feminism argues that women are more than just a pretty face but then support sex workers Because being a sex worker does not mean you're not a human being. How can sex workers call themselves a feminist when they’re a part of the industry run by websites that have lawsuits for sharing things like revenge 🌽 a videos of girls being 🍇? For the same reason YouTube creators can be good people even though YouTube also hosts white supremacy propaganda. Not to mention how they dress up as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:24 AM
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And don't forget, the dudes who were complaining she wouldn't date then will also shit on her for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:25 PM
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Ah, as is always the answer to "where did you hear this outrageous thing being said," the answer is "TikTok."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:23 PM
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I'm not sure where y'all get the idea the conservative Christians don't drink. As for porn, trust me, plenty of conservative Christians watch porn. With smartphones, it's easier than ever to hide. As for the rest of it, yeah, you'll have to give up a lot of it. But if you want a chaste, conservative woman, it seems rather bizarre to get upset when you get a chaste, conservative woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:07 PM
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How do you convince her dad that you are a solid stand up guy, if you have zero friends That's why you join the church and get to know people. if you are socially inept and the opposite of a charismatic, confident leader type of guy? You seem awfully close to acknowledging that their personality is the problem, not "shallow Western women."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:04 PM
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Wait till you try immigrating to another country.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:01 PM
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Everything you mentioned is far easier Lol ok bro, get back to me after you try immigrating somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:59 PM
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So is red pill, they would fit right in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:57 PM
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Well red pillers love to complain about contemporary society, I would think they'd be thrilled to give it up for their virgin dream girl. And it's not like they have to be Amish, even conservative Christians still have iPhones and LED TVs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:56 PM
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If you can't pretend to be a Christian, how are you going to pretend to be an alpha male in the real world? Alternatively, just say you're a sinner who wants to be saved. Evangelicals love that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:50 PM
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Because that would involve lying about a massive part of your life. Red pillers advocate for this kind of thing all the time. Look how many say to act like an alpha male douche because that's what women want. Not to mention that it's really shitty for the women this hypothetical man is dating too Oh I agree. Just like dating a woman from a desperately poor country or a teenager who doesn't know any better. But red pillers advocate for these things as well, so it seems a bit weird they'd draw the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:48 PM
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1 wanna watch sports on a religious day, that is not acceptable You can't skip church to watch football, but watching football on Sunday is not unacceptable at all. 2 don't drink or drugs or other substances Yeah you'll have to give up drugs, but most sects are fine with alcohol in moderation. Sure you can lie, great way to start a marriage Lol red pillers advocate for all sorts of unethical shit, you're gonna draw the line at dating a virgin Christian woman? be prepared, alot of those communtie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:46 PM
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Evangelicals are spread throughout the US and have a variety of sects to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:27 PM
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that will likely be suspicious of some random man arriving and trying to find date their daughters. Well yes, if you're an idiot and show up on day one trying to pull numbers, any moron will see what you're trying to do. Spend six months or so getting to know people and then warming up to a woman you like, on the other hand, is quite different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:27 PM
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Always nice to see red pillers saying the quiet part loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:25 PM
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No. I'm pointing out the stupidity of red pill claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:09 PM
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Wait? conservative even by Christian standards isn't the Catholic one? Oh God no. Your average on the street Catholic is nothing compared to, say, Baptists. Also, no matter what you refer to, all religions have too much rules for example I am not allowed alcohol, smoking, drugs or any non vegetarian food. Lol what? Drugs, yeah, you'll have to give up that. But drinking in moderation? Meat? Maybe you're thinking of Hindus. Plenty of super conservative Christians drink and vegetarianism is not man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:08 PM
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Red pillers are always talking about faking a personality, pretending to be an "alpha male" douche because they think that's what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:04 PM
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Are convicts frequently red pillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:01 PM
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While there are certainly conservative Catholics, the average Catholic is much more mainstream. I'm talking about conservative even by Christian standards sects.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:12 PM
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Of course not, that's why I wouldn't do it. Red pillers on the other hand have no problem doing it. Why not just be the man that you ARE? That's the point of my post. Red pillers would never actually do this because then they'd have to acknowledge that it's their personality that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:11 PM
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Red pill" teachings are rarely false- Hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:10 PM
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I wouldn't fake it, that sounds horrible. But red pillers talk about going to all sorts of ridiculous extremes all the time. Pretending to be religious is a piece of cake, especially when most of the others are pretending to be religious too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:03 PM
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"Evangelicals aren't conservative enough for me!" Well, there's always Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:02 PM
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Most red pillers hate liberals anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:02 PM
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Just look at steven crowder I mean if you can't go without verbally threatening your 8-month pregnant wife, maybe society isn't the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:00 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:59 PM
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I only mentioned Christianity, but they're certainly free to join other religions. Doesn't make it racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:58 PM
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Another heretic of The One True Red Pill™
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:56 PM
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Oh I agree, there is tremendous hypocrisy in conservative religious communities. That's why it's perfect for red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:43 PM
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Plus a man should only go to church when he values the lifestyle that comes w it, not because he's simply trying to score I agree, but red pillers advocate for all sorts of unethical shit, so this should fit right in. And churches are not some kind of home base where it's guaranteed you're gonna find women with low N-counts, and trad gender roles etc. No, but the odds are better than most places. If anything, some churches are full of the most hypocritical people. And that's why it's perfect for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:42 PM
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That's a nonsense reply. Nothing about my post is racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:41 PM
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I mean I couldn't and wouldn't, but that's also why I'm not a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:40 PM
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I've been reading red pill bullshit since its creation. In the forum days, our forum used to post shit red pillers said and laugh at how idiotic it was. Not much has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:39 PM
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I grew up around a large community of conservative religious people, but thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:38 PM
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Need to be in moderately good shape Not true at all. Plenty of fat conservative Christians. Besides, these guys are always shouting about going to the gym, that part is no problem. be somewhat personable, and make enough money to provide her a housewife setup Dudes here always swear that their personality isn't the problem and they just don't want to be a provider for some run through land whale.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:37 PM
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Good luck in Thailand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:35 PM
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Oh are we playing "let's say the most ridiculous thing I can think of?" Nah, people aren't calling your old church for references. And if you're really worried, just say you're a sinner who wants to be saved. Evangelicals love that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:34 PM
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It's a hell of a lot easier than moving to a country where you don't know the language or the culture. Yet dudes here act like that's the magic key.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:32 PM
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No, I'm explicitly saying that red pill is as bullshit as astrology or energy healing. Red pill is just woo for angry, single dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:30 PM
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What does "struggling men" means? Read around, dude. You've got dudes here saying men should all move to Thailand because "western women" are so worthless. Well there are conservative Christian communities all over the country that have exactly what they're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:28 PM
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Well if you're an idiot and you start hitting on women your first day, of course they're going to see through it. Spend 6 months or so getting to know people and then try to warm up to someone you like, on the other hand, nothing wrong with that all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:26 PM
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How would that be racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:25 PM
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There are alternatives to Mormonism with similar communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:25 PM
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What strawman? Red pillers routinely advocate for both these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:24 PM
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I mean yeah if you're trying to pull numbers on day 1, sure. But after 6 months or so, warming up to some of the women wouldn't be untoward at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:23 PM
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Also yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:22 PM
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The dad would ask why they haven’t seen you in church before. "I'm new in the area."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:21 PM
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I don't think anyone should move to a poor, foreign country or go trawling for teenagers for the sole purpose of getting dates, yet those are both advocated for by red pillers quite frequently. It seems weird to draw the line at religion now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:21 PM
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But in conservative Christian sects, men have a much greater hand in setting up relationships. Convince her dad you're a solid, stand up guy and you're a lot further along than you ever would be in "modern dating."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:18 PM
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I mean, you're expecting her to respect you intellectually despite being a red piller, right? Relationships are all about compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:04 PM
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The absolute last place on earth you're gonna find that is in a church. You're thinking of mainstream Christianity. Conservative churches are some of the last places in the US where you're going to find women who will wait till marriage. but most modern Christians church's are hilariously gynocentric. Correct, you don't actually know anything about conservative Christian communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:03 PM
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Then this isn't the method for you. For most red pillers, though, lying is no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:59 PM
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It requires you to be religious in the first place Nah. Most Americans have absorbed enough Christianity by proxy to believably pass as a life long Christian and then just pay attention in Church and hang a picture of Jesus on your wall. They're not like Ned Flanders where they walk around quizzing you on Bible verses. Alternatively, tell them you're a sinner who wants to be saved because evangelicals love that, then you don't have to fake anything and you've got a redemption story to add to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:58 PM
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No it’s not. You’re talking about faking an enormous part of your life for a whole marriage. It's certainly easier than faking "alpha male" personality or going to a country where you don't know the language or culture, yet red pillers never shut the fuck up about that. Most Americans have absorbed enough Christianity to just by cultural diffusion to believably pass, and then you just have to occasionally pay attention in Church, say prayers, and hang a picture of Jesus on your wall. Piece of ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:53 PM
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Certainly am. Go visit some conservative Christian communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:47 PM
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Evangelicals and other conservative Christians live in pretty much every area of the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:44 PM
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I didn't say you'd get handed a wife, but you don't have deal with all the issues with "modern dating" that dudes here complain about it and men have a much greater hand in forming relationships. Dudes here swear up and down their personalities aren't the problem, it's the women who are so shallow and unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:39 PM
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Nah, dudes here have no problem exploiting women from desperately poor countries or prowling for teenagers celebrating their 18th birthday. Faking religion is a walk in the park compared to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:25 PM
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Then they'll have no problem faking it!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:23 PM
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Yeah, mainstream Christians you're probably not gonna do much better, but conservative evangelical sects? One of the few groups of people who still wait till marriage (or just before marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:22 PM
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Dudes here claim to be so desperate for love but sacrificing an hour or two a week to sit through a boring church service to get their dream girl is too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:20 PM
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Religion is a lot easier to fake than being "alpha" or moving to a completely different country where you don't know the language or culture, yet red pillers won't shut up about those. Just fake it. Who knows, maybe they'll even find they actually like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:19 PM
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Except for the divorce myth, you're sounding awfully feminist over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:18 PM
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Because women are able to economically survive without men and are far less likely to settle for an unsatisfying relationship than in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:38 PM
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Women can get sex easily as long as they don't care about enjoying it. Funny how red pillers always leave that part off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:32 PM
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No, blue pillers do believe that looks aren't as important as they are to most people No, that's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:14 PM
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Uh, you made the claims bud. The burden of proof is on you. Also how come you keep ignoring the mass shootings red pillers are responsible for?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:27 AM
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Yet there us no evidence of that. There is. There have been mass shootings committed by red pillers where they directly cited red pill ideology. Women are far more likely to be hurt by their BF than a random incel You're making the false claim that women would be safer with incels when, in fact, you have no evidence to back that up. In fact, you have no evidence to back up your original claim either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:20 AM
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Are you trying to suggest girlfriends cause violence? Boy, those incels should be happy to spared such a horrible date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:15 AM
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The rampant misogyny and trauma inflicted on both men and women. Also mass shootings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:49 PM
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Yet another heretic of the One True Red Pill™
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:16 PM
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And lesbian porn often use the same mainstream actresses, dolled up sexually for men's fantasy of lesbians You will quite likely find that this is not the type of lesbian porn women typically watch. instead of other categories like amateur porn, in which real couples have sex and the woman isn't faking having an orgasm. Because it is still frequently catered to what men like, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:14 PM
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Women's perception of who Chad is likely differs enough Oh good heavens no. I have been repeatedly assured by red pillers that attractiveness is objective, so objective that it can be measured by a universal decile scale. If women start having different opinions about attractiveness, then the cornerstone of red pill ideology crumbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:13 PM
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I see all around me that people are just trying to “date up”, that there has to be someone that the other is “chasing” in some sense and another that is settling. This is red pill nonsense. Very few relationships involve a person who is superior in all conceivable respects. What is dating up from your perspective would be dating down from another. My wife makes more money than me, but I am better at home repairs and house finance and administration. Who is to say which one is "marrying up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:47 PM
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Not all relationships are built on deep feelings and love. Of course not. Business relationships are built on transactions. What you described above is a business relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:02 PM
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It is not wrong to be conditionally nicer to one woman in exchange for receiving sex from her Then you're not actually nice. as long as he makes this agreement and its terms clear to her Ok, got tell a woman "I'm only going to be nice to you if you have sex with me" and lemme know how that goes. But even so, if he didn't treat his lover nicer than other women I'm nicer to my wife because I love her, not because she gives me sex. What a bizarre way to look at a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:17 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being nice to women and having sex. Multiple women have had sex with me because I was nice to them (among other things). What is wrong is making your niceness contingent upon receiving sex because then you're not actually being nice. How about if I buy my female friend a gift because I believe it will showcase value to her and increase the chances of me having sex, is my action now unkind? Showcase your value how? By spending money?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:20 PM
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Good thing red pillers never do something like that like trying to take credit for building civilization oh wait
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:35 PM
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The mental health of young men, the physical well being of women who have been raped or murdered by red pillers, the mental well being of women who have been abused by red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:31 PM
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Well 1% of all men commit most of the violence What a completely misleading statistic. If you beat a woman once you haven't committed "most of the violence," but you've still committed violence. Claiming it's a "small percentage of men" ignores that it's such a large number of men that a significant number of women have experienced it. Plus, there's fun statistics like how 30% of men would commit rape as long as you don't call it "rape" (13% would still commit rape even when you call it that, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:17 AM
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is that the reason as to why women (not all) in the U.S are running towards high earning men and leaving low earners at a rapid rate? What is the evidence to support this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:45 AM
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Net negative. It thankfully has been limited in impact, but it does appear to be spreading more with younger generations who, hopefully, will grow out of it. Even so, the damage it has caused in the meantime for no benefit must make it a net negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:33 AM
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Still waiting to see all these great ideas red pillers and MRAs have. So far, they've come up with checks notes splitting first dates and mandatory paternity testing. That should do it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:01 AM
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Look at that totally meaningless, pseudo-intellectual word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:31 AM
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This isnt helping men at all Men who don't comfortably fit into those gender roles would beg to differ. I work from home and handle a great deal of the child care while my wife, who makes substantially more money than me, works at her office. That would have been nearly unthinkable 30 years ago. "I don't personally like the freedom men have now" is not the same as "feminism has not helped men." What TRP says about this is basically, either you choose to be free to cry, or to have a girlfriend. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:41 AM
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Men are more free than ever to break out of traditional gender roles and stereotypes and to discuss mental health and emotional problems. That's a byproduct of feminism fighting for those things for women. Red pillers, on the other hand, are actively fighting to put men back into those molds and denigrating any man who disagrees, as seen above. Look how often they tell men to never reveal their feelings or be vulnerable because maybe a woman won't like it, as though what a hypothetical woman wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:20 AM
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Of course you don't, and I have no doubt you have endless excuses to explain why the fact that a female murderer will have more attention and marriage proposals than a fat woman who works at Walmart isn't worthy of the same hand wringing from you. I'm sure it's very similar to how you will complain that men have no options yet recoil is disgust at the notion of dating an overweight single mother or a divorcee who has touched more penises than you are personally comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:23 PM
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It's crazy how every red piller swears that they follow The One True Red Pill™ and every other red piller is a false prophet. Nah, you can go over to the quarantined red pill and see that their posts are pretty much exclusively dedicated to bitching about women. Meanwhile, over on r/MensLib, the page is covered with men's issues and topics. Are you a man currently struggling? The sidebar has a number of subreddits and resources dedicated to topics like suicide and male rape/sexual assault recove…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:35 PM
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It's not, but I know you need to believe that. Also incredible work in implicitly acknowledging that men's rights advocates and red pillers don't actually care about men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:26 PM
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certainly better than menslib though. Of course, because your goal isn't to work on men's issues, it's to shit on women and feminists in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:19 PM
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Of course, why would red pillers help men when they can hate women instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:01 PM
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Why? MensLib actually desires to fight for progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:04 PM
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Why? MensLib actually has interest in addressing men's issues. That's why MRAs and red pillers fight so hard against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:01 PM
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Conservatives are more in touch with certain instincts than progressives, generally. Absolutely. Conservatives tell people like MRAs and red pillers what they want to hear. And MRAs and red pillers happily go along with it because they, too, have no interest in men's issues but rather silencing everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:59 PM
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Social progress has no interest in men because men have not fought for it. They have instead tried to stop everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:57 PM
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I have no idea, I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of their sexual history. But considering he is a sex trafficking rapist who has already been found to be inflating his "status" in other ways (lying about his wealth, for instance), it certainly stands to reason that many of the women he claims to have slept with were either paid or raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:36 PM
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Hypocrisy. You can't support MensLib because they had one guy who supported the Duluth Model (and if I recall, this was several years ago), but you can support red pill despite having actual sex criminals as spokesmen and producing mass murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:28 PM
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Well, considering he's also being charged with rape, that's rather indicative of his success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:26 PM
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Lol "THERE IS ONLY RED PILL OR HATING MEN!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:18 PM
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Red pillers championed a man currently in jail awaiting trial for sex trafficking and have produced multiple mass shooters. Maybe they shouldn't be throwing stones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:09 PM
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okay so "feminists" are not a "fantastic ally for working on men's issues " You also apparently don't know what an ally is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:08 PM
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I didn't say feminism helps men's education, I said feminism helps men more on accident than men's rights group have ever done (or will ever do) on purpose. You intentionally lied about what I said to deflect from my actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:51 PM
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You don't understand how mental health services would help mental health problems? Can I get you to say those exact words; "I don't understand how mental health services would help mental health problems" just so there is no confusion over what you're actually saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:43 PM
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Seems like it just casts a bigger net. Of course. Feminism has been around a lot longer and actually accomplished things. MRAs only exist as a reaction to feminism; if feminism vanished tomorrow, the MRA movement would die out almost instantly. The next Q you can ask is “why?” Because MRAs and red pillers don't actually care about men's issues. They only care about issues as long as they can throw it in women's (and especially feminists') faces. Men's mental health is a perfect example. MRAs and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:19 PM
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The solution to "leaving people behind" is not "stop progress for everyone else." Conservatives do not care about social progress. If feminism disappeared tomorrow, you would never hear another peep about men's issues from conservatives ever again. Incidentally, the same is true of MRAs and red pillers. None of them actually care about men's issues, they only care about silencing everyone else. If men actually wanted change, they would see feminists and LGBTQ and racial equality groups as allies…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:59 PM
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Sorry you hate men Nah, I just don't accept red pill bullshit. Red pillers are completely incapable of recognizing the difference. Then again, if they were capable such nuance and comprehension, they probably wouldn't be red pillers in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:45 PM
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Because feminism is both an excellent template and a fantastic ally for working on men's issues (that is, actual men's issues like mental health and education, not who pays for first dates and mandatory paternity testing). The real uncomfortable truth is that feminism has done more to help men on accident than MRAs and red pillers have ever done on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:39 PM
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MensLib doesn’t help men, it is solely about honeypotting men into feminist indoctrination . That’s why it was created. No, that's just red pill conspiracy bullshit. And say what you’re saying right now. Propaganda. And there's the red pill binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:36 PM
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No, Menslib is terrible because it barely offers anything in terms of solutions, and it's filled with groveling auto-flagellants who have to preface everything with "i'm not a MRA, but" or "I don't want to invalidate women's experiences, but". I agree, it would be great to not have to do that. Unfortunately, men's rights advocates and red pillers have so thoroughly tainted the pool with virulent misogyny that men feel the need to distance themselves from them. I do find your comment on this inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:33 PM
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But it has a clear leftist political bias Social progress does not come from the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:06 PM
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They are completely different statements. You're just wilfully choosing to hear "this will help you" as "this will guarantee success," which also happens to be the origin of every single red pill claim of "bad blue pill advice."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:39 PM
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get strong, get rich, become interesting, don't tolerate bullshit and you'll get girls and be happy. You're a loser right now, so of course you can't get girls, but it's possible to stop being a loser and become a winner. I'll show you the way. And how's that working out? Where are all these magically fixed Tater Tots? It's ok to be you. Unless you're gay, trans, non-white, or a woman. Let's bond together and accept our greatness and we can make this country great. And that's just white supremac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:36 PM
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it's a literal sub for men that aren't men and manginas It's always great when the red pill misandry comes out. But thank you for demonstrating that red pillers care far more about hating women than they do about helping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:53 PM
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"Nice guys" aren't actually nice. That's the point. They don't actually respect women or treat them like human beings. "The bar is on the floor" is expressing the shock that so many men don't even meet the minimum standard of a functioning adult (much less a boyfriend), not "if you meet the minimum standard of a functioning adult, you will have women flocking to you." It's hard for a woman to appreciate that you're totally her type when your breath is so bad she can't stand you opening your mout…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:52 PM
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The blue pill" or "the left" cries about the popularity of Andrew Tate, Donald Trump etc but offers no meaningful solutions to young men and even refuses to acknowledge that they have a problem. A) what solutions have these two sex criminals offered young men other than "owning the libs?" B) I have repeatedly offered r/MensLib to men here only to get screamed at about how terrible they are because they don't allow posters to just baselessly blame women and feminism for all of men's problems. Mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:39 PM
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player fuccboi behaving like you mean the world to him was "love bombing" you, a average guy doing this exact same thing (even if sincere)comes off as just "needy and desperate" Love bombing is bad. Not sure why you're pretending it's a good thing. women will say "he knew what they both were there for", I have never heard a woman say this, though I have heard men say similar things with regards to women being raped or assaulted. In any case, your main complaint seems to be that she has an opinio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:28 PM
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But I am describing red pill ideology. This is shit red pillers say every day. Claiming "well they're not TRUE red pillers" is just nonsense (and is also a very common cop out used by red pillers; according to them, none of them are following TRUE red pill ideology).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:05 PM
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Because if you're an unstable, bad smelling, jack ass, your looks aren't your biggest problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:22 AM
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What if I'm not? Would most men agree about your assessment of those women? I have no idea. Probably at least a few of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:40 AM
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It would depend on the individual women. I've certainly dated above average women (and I consider my wife above average as well) despite being average looking myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:30 AM
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No it doesn't. Exactly 100% of posts where red pillers have claimed said "looks don't matter" have not said that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:11 AM
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No. It's a movie about a German kid who loves Hitler during WWII.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:29 AM
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I prefer gritty and realistic entertainment even in my fiction. For instance I'd love to play a ww2 game about a virtuous Italian soldier who loves and believes Mussolini maybe slightly brainwashed but the soldier himself is honorable, not wicked or cruel to the enemy and truly believes in his cause. BP media would never allow that You just described Jojo Rabbit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:56 AM
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No, I don't see an angry dude screaming at a woman who rejected him about hypergamy as being particularly entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:55 AM
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Thank you for demonstrating my point flawlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:07 PM
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And then you read dudes here bitching that it's women's fault for expecting any man to make them cum in a hook up and also yelling that women don't need oral or clit stimulation to orgasm while simultaneously demanding that women give them more casual sex and also denigrating any woman who has casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:04 PM
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Most single fathers are widowed. Most single mothers are abandoned. Why are you trying to pretend there's no difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:20 PM
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It is absolutely unreal you are blaming women for shitty men. But is it really red pill if you're not blaming women for everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:57 PM
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You didn't explain why, you literally said you weren't going to explain why, and now you're trying to claim I'm the one arguing in bad faith. Classic red pill bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:54 PM
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Not even getting into the issues with the data, absolutely nothing in that says the men being "shared" are high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:47 PM
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That's horseshit. It is used by red pillers to describe women. Claiming "well they could use it to refer to men" doesn't change the fact it's used almost exclusively to refer to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:45 PM
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but I had had some online dating success in my old town" literally you had success with dating what the fuck?? I had some success in my old town. Then I moved and I didn't have success for awhile. Thus, I had issues. Without putting in any effort I put in a lot of effort. redpillers will see it as I said, Boy are you in for a shock when you read literally anything red pillers say. No average man is getting dozens of quality matches a day Like I said, red pillers can literally not comprehend that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:42 PM
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Red pillers definitely need to be treated like children, that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:18 PM
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You guys are the first to say that looks and money are massive determining factors in all other aspects of your life like career success, health, emotional wellbeing etc. But the moment it comes to dating you magically turn into a 90s republican and say "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, society is ok its your fault you dont have success in dating". Looks has almost nothing to do with your career and money is what you get from your career, not the other way around. And no, you don't get to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:13 PM
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No, they just don't scream "LOOKS AND MONEY ARE THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL EVER GET DATES." Going against that bullshit is not "downplaying looks," it's refusing to accept red pill garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:54 PM
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Blue Pill does heavily downplay looks and money, No, they just don't scream "LOOKS AND MONEY ARE THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL EVER GET WOMEN". Because red pillers are completely incapable of nuance and complex thought, they hear "attraction is a multifaceted, complicated thing of which looks are just one part" and run off to post about how blue pillers say looks don't matter. Which can be statistically shown No, it can't. Red pillers love to claim that they have stats to back up their ideology, but they …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:31 PM
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Here, I'll defend it. Blue pill doesn't say shit like "looks don't matter" and "just be yourself" while promising women will flock to you. That's just red pillers hearing what they want to hear so they can claim that society is trying to mislead men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:15 PM
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Redpill shows women will share high value men No. Red pill claims women share high value men. They don't actually show anything to back that up. I’m convinced a lot of guys that are angry with women are guys who aren’t bad looking, maybe average and yet they wonder why they can only attract landwhales. Probably because they refer to women as "land whales."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:10 PM
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Lol brilliant argument. That's why I comment on watch and news subs. So I can astroturf red pillers. Everyone knows what a valuable segment they are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:52 PM
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Respond to an argument, answer a question. Red pillers don't do either. But good job on the "everyone who disagrees with me is a bot."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:49 PM
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Why did you think it was relevant here? All of it, that's why I said it How are you anything better than a broken record? Because red pillers can't answer simple questions, just like you can't now. You, like most red pillers, seem to believe that if you ignore questions long enough they'll go away, but boy howdy do y'all get triggered when they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:41 PM
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"I'm not being rewarded for being nice!” means you're not actually nice. Inventing "reasons" women are awful so you can rationalize being awful is really just trying to justify being awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:30 PM
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It's easy for women to get casual sex as long as they don't care about enjoying it. That's the part that red pillers always leave out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:34 PM
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Well that's fucking stupid. Of course priorities change after you have kids, you have human beings to take care of who are 100% dependent on you. What an idiotic belief to think priorities don't change after having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:39 PM
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Men are made to sound like completely one dimensional monsters with zero agency a lot of times here This is it exactly. Red pill is a deeply misandric ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:37 PM
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Then you should probably pay closer attention to what red pill actually says.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:09 PM
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So let's recap, you never had issues dating No, I pretty clearly stated I had issues with dating. you had easy success with it back in your home town No, I had some success. your photos weren't working well so you tried switching things up and then you once again had wild success on apps. There ya go. You're 1 for 3! she claimed to not want anything serious No, she said she wasn't sure she was ready for anything serious. meaning she really liked you but wasn't sure if she could commit), If you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:05 PM
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No it's not. Much like "go to the gym," the little good advice red pill is really just common sense that they try to take credit for. Understanding that your photos matter for online dating is common sense. Unless you're trying to claim the old red pill myth where blue pillers say looks don't matter even though they don't actually ever say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:50 PM
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No, because despite what the Internet thinks, 1. Be attractive 2. Don't be unattractive is not actually how the world operates (that's why those "rules" come from an SNL skit). Your super power doesn't tell you if she's single, if she's looking for anyone right now, if she's even in the mood to be hit on, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:31 AM
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It wasn't any one thing, but the photos I picked were probably the biggest factor. I went through probably over a hundred different photos in various combinations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:01 AM
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Nope. We've discussed finances obviously, but it's never been an issue relationship wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:57 AM
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Where are the bluepill success stories? I've tried telling mine, and red pillers just run down a list of qualities until they find one I have and then declare that must be why women have dated me. I struggled for a long time with dating including long periods of being single with no dates. I started doing apps and wasn't getting matches, I was in a new city and didn't really know anyone, but I had had some online dating success in my old town, I just needed to figure out what worked. So I kept m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:43 AM
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You can complain the advice isn't great. You don't get to complain about completely different advice that was never given as part of an elaborate conspiracy to deny men any hope of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:28 AM
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I didn’t say it’s the only thing. I know it's not the only thing, you (and others) just keep pretending that people are saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:41 PM
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I have seen it many times here personally Yeah that's what I always hear and then you see the posts and it turns out they weren't saying anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:23 PM
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Men want advice. Women give advice. Men pretend women said something different and get mad about it. News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:37 PM
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No, I'm really not. You already acknowledged that women say you should practice basic hygiene. You completely invented the part where "basic hygiene is the only thing you need to do to get women." What I have seen is a lot of blaming and shaming from women that men don't meet their 'low' bar because one of the reasons is they don't shower. That still isn't saying "the only thing you need to do to get women is shower." It's expressing shock that many men do not understand that you need to shower.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:14 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:11 PM
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Yeah that's what I keep hearing and then you see the posts and they weren't saying that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:04 PM
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There are lots of posts of women directly naming hygiene and showers. And you're already moving the goalposts. What they AREN'T saying is "if you take a shower women will flock to you." That's the part you're inventing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:53 PM
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No they don't. It's dudes on Reddit hearing what they want to hear. I can't count the number of times people have said something like "your personality is important" and red pillers have jumped in screaming "OH SO YOU'RE SAYING LOOKS DONT MATTER" and then ran off to post about how women say looks don't matter. Just today, I said "having good game is a lot more than just the words that you say" and a dude immediately started whining "OH SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU JUST HAVE TO BE YOURSELF??" All this "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:35 PM
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It's just a way to blame women for all of their woes while hiding behind pseudoscience and fun house mirror logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:16 PM
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Being a slave to evolution doesn’t mean you’d run around killing people. Not all people, no. But people with food and mates, absolutely. If you're arguing that's not the case, then you don't understand what a slave is, what evolution is, or, most likely, both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:49 PM
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"Reality has a well-known liberal bias."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:40 PM
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No, you said this. "Game has very little to do with the actual words coming out of your mouth." And then you responded with the ways that game has little to do with the words coming out of your mouth. How you dress, your body language, your tone, all are examples of things that are not what you are actually saying. So, when flirting, does what you say matter or doesn't it? Of course it matters. It's just a small piece overall. That's why I said "very little to do" and not "nothing to do." But of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:36 PM
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Psychology is understanding how people think and their behaviors in given situations. I know what psychology is. I'm saying red pillers don't know what psychology is. They just make up a bunch of shit and claim it's psychology. Do you Nope. Now, I know you don't know what you're talking about. Game is everything from how you dress, to how you talk, to how you carry yourself. That is literally what I fucking said. Just be yourself" is nonsense because it's not advice. You wrote three paragraphs t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:06 PM
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Yeah, it's just an excuse to abuse women. Dudes here will claim the man being taller makes her hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:04 PM
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If you are expecting advice on how to handle each individual person you will ever come across, good luck. Also, "every single person has a different perspective" is not "extreme." That's just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:13 PM
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Because they apply psychology to dating? They don't apply "psychology." They try to manipulate what red pillers believe is psychology and, unsurprisingly, they continually fail. So, there aren't things you can say that would make someone like you more or less? Women call this the "vibe" but men call it "game." "Game" has always existed, this isn't something new. Do you think good game is just a script that successful dudes follow? Game has very little to do with the actual words coming out of yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:46 PM
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Every single person has different perceptions of the world. You don't treat every single person like they're an alien species that you have to figure out how to communicate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:41 PM
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Why would you tolerate women who don't treat you like a normal person?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:10 PM
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how we treat men Who is this we? I treat men with respect and friendliness and genuine interest in them as people, just like I do to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:44 PM
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Because men (especially men around here) often act like women are a different species who have a magic code where if you say the right words in the right order, they'll fuck you or date you. It doesn't work like that and rather than trying to game women you'll have much more success just talking to them like a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:22 PM
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Given how those who complain about "toxic masculinity" often believe there is no such thing as "nontoxic masculinity" nor "toxic femininity", it's just a term for passive aggressive misandrists Nah this is all bullshit you made up. Feminists are the biggest user of "toxic masculinity" and not only do they readily acknowledge toxic femininity (it's just not "who pays for first dates"), they also will happily discuss positive masculinity with people who are actually interested in such a discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:24 AM
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Yes but usually it is the more Lol no it's not. It's red pillers inventing categories where they can claim women are hypergamous. Guys here have literally said women dating a dude who is taller than them (the women) makes them hypergamous. It's total bullshit. It's just an excuse for dateless red pillers to make women look bad for dating men regardless of who they choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:07 AM
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Homeboy literally said hypergamy is a woman who dates up in ONE or more categories. If it's 1 out of 2 or 1 out of a million, red pillers say she's hypergamous. And you're calling me ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:48 AM
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If she is better in 9 out of 10 categories, then she is dating down. Absolutely nobody but red pillers would ever dispute this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:11 AM
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If you think being better in a single category is always "wanting better," then your issue is with the definition of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:33 AM
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Hypergamy refers to women preferring men who are above women in one or more meaningful metrics. Thank you for confirming what I have been saying for quite awhile. A woman can be better than her boyfriend in 9 out of 10 categories, but if he's better in the 10th, she will be labeled hypergamous. Many red pillers even consider the man being taller to qualify as being hypergamous. In short, as it is used by red pillers, it's an utterly meaningless term.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:04 PM
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Here its relevant because it would explain why it feels unfair. But this only makes sense if women don't like sex. Here we are likely to see different answers between men and women due to this. You think wanting to date someone is based on how horny they are? here its going to be relevant because it will create different expectations between partners. Which is it? If men know women aren't as horny, why would they expect more?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:30 PM
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Oh because your question was clearly a bad faith misrepresentation of what I actually said. Sorry if that's inconvenient to your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:21 PM
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I’m not even red pilled… "Dudes who parrot red pill ideology but technically do not identify as red pill" then. You accused me of saying the quiet part loud without any actual substance No, there was plenty of substance which you understood perfectly, that's why you're getting all cranky now. Your lack of an answer shows me that you’re probably a simp who believes women can do no wrong. And there's the red pill binary again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:10 PM
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They never said they were straight. And I never told them to do anything. I merely presented an option. Sorry you got so triggered, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:08 PM
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I didn't tell anyone to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:58 PM
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And there's the red pill binary. "I can't actually argue what you said, so I'm going to pretend you said the most extreme version possible."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:58 PM
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Lol yes, my wife knows I mock red pillers on the Internet
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:52 PM
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Mk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:46 PM
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Ah, so you didn't even read what was being said before butting into project your fantasies on to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:12 PM
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A) it's not a fact and B) if it's so important, why can no red piller explain its relevance to discussions on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:11 PM
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I'm not the one so obsessed with Grindr I never said anything about being obsessed with Grindr. Once again, that is your own projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:33 PM
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I didn't say take it up the ass. That's your own projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:11 PM
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A red piller can't address the argument so resorts to condescension, color me shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:38 PM
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Apparently you didn't even read the question you answered lmao Here it is again lmao Would you have sex wjth someone you are not attracted to or a person who does not arouse you sexually? Are you even capable of having sex with someone who doesn't arouse you? You affirmed that men would have no problem with this scenario lmao Bi and gay men would be someone you're not attracted to who doesn't arouse you sexually lmao So therefore you must also believe that men would have no problem with this sce…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:32 PM
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Really? Then why are dudes always bitching about not getting laid? Go sign up for Grindr and you can have a dude over to your house to blow you with no reciprocation within hours (just search for "blow and go").
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:28 PM
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Is this seriously another "men are hornier" post? Of the many, many stupid things red pillers like to complain about, this is easily one of the stupidest. By the way, women want good sex, not just any sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:25 PM
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they can get away with disrespect with no social, legal or physical consequences. "Women aren't afraid of men, they're just afraid of what men will do to them if they say something the man doesn't like." Really saying the quiet part loud, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:19 PM
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Judging people by their looks means making determinations about their character based on appearance, not whether you're physically attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:37 AM
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They didn't say that women don't say it. Yes, they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:46 PM
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They weren’t swearing up and down. They said that women say that a lot. And when I pointed out they don't, they doubled down repeatedly, insisting that women do say it until they finally admitted that women don't say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:43 PM
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Yes, they do. No they don't. Both the dudes who were swearing up and down that women say it all the time both just admitted that women didn't actually say that at all. That is the case every. Single. Time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:35 PM
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I'd say around 50% constantly downplay the importance of looks And there we go. So women aren't actually saying "looks don't matter at all," they're saying "look don't matter as much as you think they do." When a dude around here complains women say "looks don't matter," exactly 100% of the time, the women were not saying that at all. Thank you for demonstrating that yet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:33 PM
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they're more likely to say you'll meet someone due to your nice personality. See? This is exactly what I mean. Red pill dudes hear "personality matters" and immediately declare "OH SO YOU'RE SAYING LOOKS DON'T MATTER??" Every time I have seen a dude directly reply to a woman he's claiming is saying "looks don't matter," exactly 100% of the time, the woman was not saying anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:23 PM
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The vast majority (I would wager >95%) don't say this. It's a red pill myth. I've seen what they claim is women saying it, and 100% of the time, it's a woman not saying anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:07 PM
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I didn't say they say it all the time I didn't say you did. I'm saying the vast majority of women never say it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:05 PM
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r/ThatHappened
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:03 PM
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Most of what you have listed here is just "women has an opinion about a man without the man getting to argue against it."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:02 PM
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No, they don't. Dudes love to claim women say this all the time, much like you're doing now, but then women chime in to say "no that's ridiculous, of course women care about looks."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:01 PM
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You'd think it would be maximizing your physical appearance, but all too often I still see women spewing absolute garbage about how looks don't really matter No you don't. Dudes here constantly reply to women's advice saying "OH SO YOU'RE SAYING LOOKS DONT MATTER" and exactly 100% of the time, the women were not saying anything of the sort. This is just yet another red pill myth to try and sell the idea that people (and women in particular) are always trying to mislead men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:54 PM
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Of all the posts I’ve seen TPPD, I’ve never seen one get a reaction that makes so many people feel personally attacked Wait till you see any post written by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:07 PM
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It's real in the sense that there are women who do it, but it's not real in the sense that it is anywhere near the scale or scope of passport bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:50 PM
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Nobody says miscommunications don't happen. But when you're only getting miscommunications, then the problem is most likely with you. More importantly, when your response to a miscommunication is to get defensive and abusive, then the problem is most definitely you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:48 PM
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TIL wanting to make your partner cum is "pick me behavior."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:28 AM
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Bro if you think "women prefer oral sex to dudes showing them studies that their dick is enough" is bragging, maybe you need to recalibrate your definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:36 AM
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"Fellas, is it gay to have sex with a woman?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:35 AM
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I'm looking in your links, I don't see these numbers replicated. Where are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:25 AM
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You gave numbers for frequency, but you gave no basis for these numbers and I'm not seeing anything in your links to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:23 AM
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Except you didn't actually identify misinformation. You are conflating "able to orgasm from penetration" with "reliably and consistently orgasm from penetration."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:57 AM
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So then you're just quibbling about statistics for no reason. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:07 AM
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Alright bro. You show her your studies, I'll eat her out, let's see which one she prefers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:56 AM
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I didn't say humans were exempt from evolution, that's a lie you invented to deflect from what I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:43 PM
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Does it matter? Yes. Does it matter anywhere near as much as men think it does? Not even close. If you have a legit micropenis, yeah you might have some challenges but almost certainly nothing that can't be solved by oral skills and toys. For the vast, vast majority of men, though, it's not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:48 PM
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They aren't in the same circles. He is an 8 digit millionaire with marginal national popularity (mostly concentrated around Kansas City). She is a billionaire superstar who is internationally adored. That's like saying the guy who owns all the car dealerships in my city is in the same circle as Elon Musk.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:38 PM
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Red pillers are so easily triggered. Must be evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:37 PM
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So? She's an internationally beloved billionaire superstar, she could have a parade of ripped, six pack dudes paying just for a chance to go down on her. She is irrefutably dating down, which red pill says is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:27 PM
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No, 1 billion is 10 times more than 100 million. Red pillers happily called Beyonce "hypergamous" even though Jay-z is only worth four times more than her. You don't get to change the rules now that it's inconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:38 PM
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A spear??? Futuristic sorcery! Bludgeon animals to death with your bare hands like god intended!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:57 PM
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Women have begun behaving in a way that is completely counterintuitive to evolutionary biology Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:35 PM
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How can anything be something other than what it evolved to be? How many people have you killed or attempted to kill for food and mates? Is it zero? Then you're not a slave to evolution. Humans exist in civilizations orders of magnitude larger than evolution prepared us to handle. Yet we adapted, because we're not slaves to evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:15 PM
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Absolutely. I work from home and I still wear athletic cut T-shirts and a nice watch just because I like how I look.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:48 PM
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No, she only dates much, much poorer men. As for attractive, she is very attractive herself so at worst she is simply dating men on her level though, if we're being honest, she's better looking than most of the men she dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:44 PM
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Everyone is a slave of evolution, No they aren't. That's a bullshit cop out used almost exclusively by red pillers while everyone else is able to adapt and grow beyond evolutionary programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:43 PM
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But you haven't been told your whole life "if you're just nice women will always want to date you." That's not a thing that people say, that's a red pill lie used to make it seem like society (blue pillers in particular) have been purposely misleading men. while chasing after bad boys. Another red pill myth. If you verbalize any of this, you are told you're a manipulative "nice guy" who just wants sex and isn't nice at all. You seriously don't see a problem with this? Yes, I see red pill perpetu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:30 PM
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No you didnt, Yes I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:10 AM
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I did. I called your argument as bullshit as evidenced by the fact that there are blue pillers in this thread saying that's not actually the advice given and your response is "nuh uh." Learn to formulate an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:06 AM
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No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:03 AM
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You're intentionally conflating being nice with being a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:36 AM
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It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:27 AM
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Inductive reasoning, with which we can identify cause and effect, which is a universal phenomenon. The fundamental structure of reality follows an ontologically dependent narrative. You're trying to claim that altruism, for some reason, deviates from the norm and is immune to cause and effect. This is meaningless pseudo-intellectual babble. You are also misconstruing cause and effect for cost and benefit. So I ask again, prove it. Easily. I gain nothing from holding a door open for someone and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:50 AM
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A non-contingent object doesn't exist Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:28 AM
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Altruism isn't contingent on anything. That's why it's altruism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:21 AM
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I have known women who will lead men on to use their labor, money, etc. Also women who will use male friends for emotional support and validation.It’s a a lop sided relationship where she takes and never gives. Being nice is not being a doormat. If this is true (and I sincerely doubt it is) it's not being nice that's the issue. Guys get told if they are a certain type of nice that women will flock to them. Except guys aren't told that at all. They're told to be nice to girls and women, but guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:13 AM
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the population is going extinct No it's not. That's logically and factually just plain wrong. and is chronically sick, physically deformed, and collectively mentally ill. Also false. therapy is post modern bs to hook people on anti depressants and not doing anything about their issues by telling them that the problem is them feeling bad about horrible circumstances instead of them just having a natural reaction to bad circumstances. Yawn. Also false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:12 AM
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Despite what feminists say it is indeed possible for a man to just be a good person and believe they are a good person without having some initial expectation of getting laid. Not only do feminists not say otherwise, that's literally what I said. Why even tell someone to be polite, respectful, honest, etc. if nothing good comes from it? It's called being raised right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:19 PM
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Because when women don't flock to them, you quickly discover they're not nice at all. Actually nice people are nice whether or not they are promptly rewarded for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:17 PM
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Women not dating you is not being "used."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:15 PM
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I would guess it's because looks discussions quickly devolve into "if you have a negative canthal tilt, you're doomed to be alone forever" and "women are shallow bitches for caring about height but it's ok for men to care about weight."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:12 PM
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Then there are the blue pill actual nice guys who think you just have to be a good person and women will be attracted to that Not only is that not blue pill advice, but if you're nice with the expectation of women flocking to you, then you're not actually nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:46 PM
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No they don't. Dudes in here talk about how repulsed they are by these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:57 PM
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hyper masculine Kelce might be a football player, but he's not hyper masculine. Listen to his podcast, him and his brother and frequently emotional and vulnerable, even occasionally crying, things that red pill says to never be. tall Yeah, this is the sole point for red pill. muscled Muscled, absolutely, but he is by no means ripped. Homeboy has a football gut, definitely not the six pack a high value woman like Taylor would require (according to red pill) famous She is orders of magnitude more …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:53 PM
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I would distinguish "just to impress me" from "I like you and genuinely want to learn more about the things you like." The former would likely be a turn off while the latter would be a big turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:46 PM
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I actually like Taylor Swift as an example because she is antithetical to everything red pillers claim that women seek in relationships with the exception that Travis Kelce is indeed taller than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:42 PM
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This is nonsense. His argument is essentially "therapy doesn't work on men because of evolution." Men are not slaves to the evolutionary past. Our entire society is well beyond anything evolution could have prepared us for, yet people continue to adapt and thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:38 PM
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That's about 95% of red pill logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:54 AM
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Essentially, men in monogamous relationships are expected to turn down advances from other women, there is no leeway given and it's seen as indefensible. However, people are much more patient with women who don't turn down advances from other men while they're in a relationship This is utter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:53 AM
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The obsession comes from when that shit happens back to back or everywhere you turn it looks like someone’s trying to take advantage of you Then you should be seeing a therapist rather than inflicting your issues on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:17 PM
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This path completely neglects the fact that women are at peak fertility around 20, and fertility is a shorter window in time than they realize. By the time they reach 30, 33% of women are no longer able to conceive. At 35, they are clinically considered "geriatric" in fertility terms. This is because women aren't stupid and despite attempts to scare them, they are aware that having kids after 30 or even 35 is not the Russian roulette that many men pretend it is. Also if you're trying to say 1/3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:09 PM
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No, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:49 PM
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Can you quote where it says the increase in sexual inactivity occurred among the bottom 80% of men while women slept with the same minority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:02 PM
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Yes, I understand, you're being pedantic about my word choice and ignoring the core of what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:06 PM
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That's still attempting to construct a relationship where you are never at risk. It doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:56 PM
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Men love chasing attractive women. Men hate chasing unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:55 PM
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There is a strange obsession that is especially prevalent among younger men of constructing a relationship in such a way that you can never be hurt or taken advantage of. That's not how relationships work. Yes, it is possible that you will be taken advantage of; if someone is doing that, you talk to them about correcting that behavior or you leave. If you are expecting to have a relationship with someone without ever risking anything yourself, then romance might not be for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:54 PM
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What data is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:45 PM
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Because being drunk doesn't excuse violent crime. Is this a serious question? To my own intuition men seem to be ones with more responsibility to make sure that someone is capable to consent compare to women. If anyone could provide me evidence to the contrary. That's not how debate works. You need to provide evidence to support your conclusion. If we are just going on "intuition," then my equally valid intuition says you're wrong and you're trying to find a way to blame women for being sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:58 PM
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This is what red pill thrives on. Just utter bullshit with a veneer of half truths that take longer to debunk than it does to spread them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:54 PM
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Answer: women probably really are having sex with a minority of men. There is nothing to support this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:04 PM
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And they don't see it at all. They have no problem with the countless contradictions because women are all dating wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:18 PM
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But like how?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:05 PM
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What language?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:58 PM
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If all the safety and std concerns become negligible if he’s hot enough, they weren’t really concerns Uh, yeah they were. The dudes who care the least about women’s pleasure often get the most pussy, You literally made that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:44 PM
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If women are so much better than men in everything, why don't you just date each other and leave us the fuck alone? No one is forcing you to be here. The door is open. Lol what?? Between men and women bitching about the other gender, you think women are the ones who can't just walk away? My brother, this entire sub is a testament to the fact that women are walking away while men cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:59 PM
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he will be reminded that women don't share his libidinal appetite, that women don't get aroused that easily, that the risks are too high and there is less benefit for them. For the average guy sex will only comes with a serious relationship as a "cherry on top" reward once he proves his worth and grows on her. With the exception of the risk/reward for casual sex, where are women saying these things? That sounds like red pill garbage. But on the topic of risk/reward, guys around here are frequent…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:55 PM
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As a younger millenial(29), the one thing I've noticed that differentiate younger men from millenials who came before them is how at the same young age, normie millenial men had a much more idealistic view of female behaviour in dating and relationships. We were a generation of simps and male feminists. Good lord I can't roll my eyes hard enough. Are you so naive that you think all this red pill behavior "theory" shit is new? They've been spewing the same garbage for over a decade and before the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:30 PM
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Red pillers, jerks, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:00 PM
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I'll have to remember this comment next time a red piller whines about why it's okay to shame virgins. Turns out they're the ones who actually don't have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:36 PM
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Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:16 PM
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I almost entirely agree with everything except the last part, you can't increase your height almost at all, but weight is very much within our control. So? When has it ever been a rule that you are only allowed to be attracted to things that a person has control over?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:56 PM
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That's a different conversation. No, it's not. "Provocative and slutty" are completely subjective assessments and what you consider provocative and slutty others may not and vice versa. However, there are also categories of clothes that women wear not just for comfort, but specifically because it makes their body look sexier. Yes, most women's clothing is designed to be visually flattering. That doesn't change the fact that it is can be entirely for the woman's own benefit and that's why she cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:50 PM
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It's very naive of you to automatically listen to what women say. Women's words often contradict their actions. No, women's words contradict red pill beliefs. That's not the same thing, no matter how much y'all try to make it. For example, many women will say they just want a good man, but then if you examine their dating history it's plentiful with fuckboys, cheaters and assholes. It's crazy how all the dudes on this sub always know the complete dating history of any woman. Women will say thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:02 PM
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My post is specifically about dressing sexy/slutty/promiscuously/provocatively. Yeah, and dudes on this sub have accused women of dressing promiscuously/slutty/provocatively when wearing gym clothes, which women absolutely wear around the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:19 PM
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You think women chill at home in the same outfit they go to the club in? Of course not, just like I don't chill around the house in my suit even though I look fuckin killer in it. It would be wildly impractical. But I still wear clothes that make me look good even though I'm home alone all day and nobody sees me. Your claim is women must be dressing in attractive and revealing clothes for men's attention because they don't dress like that at home and I'm pointing out they do dress in attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:58 PM
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No, but she could very well just be walking around nude. Using this logic, then it would be argued that a woman going around nude in public could be doing it for herself, but a woman in heels and a corset couldn't be. The easier option would just be to listen to women when they explain why they like dressing the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:44 PM
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So then why do they also dress in attractive clothes outside of the home? Because they like the way they look. I work from home and I still wear athletic fit shirts because I like the way they look even though nobody sees me all day. Like you said, if it's wasnt for me or other men, they would have no desire to wear the same type of revealing outfits outside the house. You must be having a stroke because I said nothing like that. Only it's usually the opposite that happens. Most women wear sweat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:43 PM
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Not only do women dress in attractive clothes even when at home, women will frequently walk around in underwear or completely nude when home alone. Not everything is about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:30 PM
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Some people might call this kind of approach predatory, but I say the current dating market justifies such strategies and as the saying goes, all is fair in love and war. Just wanted to preserve this for the next time someone tries to argue that passport bros aren't predatory. In any case, good luck thrusting yourself into a culture you know nothing about, hope immigration doesn't catch up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:46 AM
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One thing red pillers love to do is take a suggestion and pretend like you are saying this is the only thing a guy ever needs to do to get all the women he could possibly want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:35 AM
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Blue-pill was coined by the redpill as a catch all term for generally accepted social beliefs in dating Such as : Women are less visuals than men Just be a good person You will find your person eventually. The worst thing she can say is no. If you are alone then there is something wrong with you Niceguys are the worst. Etc Probably 6 and maybe 4, the rest is just red pill projection bullshit that comes from ignoring what is actually said and substituting what is convenient to your ideology inste…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:33 AM
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No, something is wrong with you if you notice you aren't fitting into social norms and your response is to subscribe to a deeply misogynistic and misandric ideology that is basically a conspiracy theory about how women are denying men sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:59 PM
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hy can’t they make it abundantly clear so there isn’t all of this unnecessary stress and guesswork?? Why are you flipping out that every woman isn't announcing every guy she's attracted to? You want to be struggling to get a word in over the 5 other guys in the bar she finds attractive? As is almost always the answer to every variation of "why isn't it easier to approach women," women tend to value social intelligence and awareness, and if you can't exercise these things to read the room, then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:21 PM
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Because so many women on this sub object to large age gaps and think they should be illegal Who has said large age gap relationships between adults should be illegal? This is a very common red pill disinformation tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:49 AM
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I have. That's how I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:36 PM
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Then it doesn't sound like they need to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:35 PM
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Women are wrong for belittling short guys and treating them subhuman, Except women aren't doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:32 PM
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I wasn't entirely clear, I meant that are men as a whole buying it, because MGTOW, passport bros, red pill guys, etc etc are not. According to red pillers et al, the hottest 20% of guys are buying it all day, every day. Tell me you don't understand MGTOW or incels without telling me you don't understand MGTOW or incels. As I mentioned, if MGTOW actually did what they said they would do, it would probably be a healthy move. But in reality, they just sit around and bitch about women and spread all…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:39 PM
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Well of course it's different you dipwit, because any woman can get any fucking dates she wants, duh Then it doesn't sound like they need to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:20 PM
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I mean it’s so prevalent to hear blue pill feminists say a behavior in men is bad but the same exact behavior is fine for women. No, it's very prevalent to see men here claim that by pretending two different situations are the same. Like how men here will claim they're not allowed to find fat women unattractive while women can find short men unattractive. Dudes here love to pretend like that's the issue when in reality the issue is, and always has been, the vitriol and hate that women get from m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:15 PM
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Are they buying it though? This is literally the cornerstone of red pill ideology. There's MGTOW, Which are just incels who, ostensibly, are trying to find fulfilment in their life but really are just bitching about women. there's passport bros If even 1 in 100 dudes who evangelize passport broism actually practice it, I will eat my shoe. there's men not bothering with dating Like MGTOW, if they actually did it, it would probably be healthy. If we're being realistic, women are far more likely an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:52 PM
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Really? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:45 PM
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about how there are no good men Well gee, that's quite a bit different from "I can't get any dates at all, I'm so lonely, and also any woman who isn't a 110 lbs virgin with DDs and pays for everything is a run through land whale gold digger."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:44 PM
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A market maker can propose a value, but if the buyers aren't buying it, that proposed value is meaningless. Except they are buying it, that's the crux of the whole argument, that men will take whatever they can get therefore women determine their own value. They can bitch all they want about how "3s think they're 7s" but if those 3s are getting 7s (which is what red pillers claim), then they're 7s. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:54 PM
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There absolutely is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:49 PM
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Being attracted to a pretty face is not the same kind of attraction as I have to large breasts. The latter would probably be closer, if not entirely, a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:46 PM
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Tell you what, when women start bitching about not being able to get a date at a fraction of the frequency that men do, I'll happily tell them the same thing: if you're unhappy being single and can't find someone who meets your standards, one of those things has to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:45 PM
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Fetishes are narrow, specific sexual turn ons. Women are attracted to tall men, but it's not overtly sexualized just like I am attracted to women with symmetrical faces or redheads, but it's not overtly sexualized. It is possible for men to simply find chubby women attractive without overtly sexualizing it, but I've yet to meet one who does. But, let's be frank, this is just another post to bitch about how women like tall men and another attempt to explain how it's unfair to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:28 PM
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A friend of mine checks all the boxes. He's very wealthy, tall, good looking, high status, company founder etc I would say your problem right off the bat is you haven't identified anything beyond "good looking" that would attract women. Despite what the prevailing wisdom on this sub would have you believe, women aren't all just trawling for hot, rich dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:29 PM
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That is the incredibly disturbing. "I don't care if my wife even likes me as long as I get regular sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:26 PM
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I mean, is staying in a marriage where one person doesn't like the other that much better?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:00 PM
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Do you agree with Redonkulas' assessment of what to expect in case of divorce? Redonkulas, red pill No, I can already tell you he's full of shit. One: Character assassination No. Two: Blame, Guilt, Shame. Maybe a little, but generally with regard to the end of the relationship, not in a way that will have any impact on divorce. Three: False allegations No. Four: Vandalizing of personal property Lol what? No. Five: loss of assets (or as he put it, "lose half of your shit"). Splitting of assets, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 01:42 PM
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No, it doesn't. Market value isn't a real thing because if it was, red pillers could never simultaneously complain that women's market value is inflated while also claiming that women are market makers since, by definition, a market maker determines the value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:17 AM
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I did, it's not actually a response. Alternatively, how hard is it really to believe that threats of irreparable harm wouldn't stop some men from pursuing sex? Not many, considering how many men shit on women for having casual sex but bemoan that average men never get any.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:15 AM
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You don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:13 AM
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And these bullies knew how big their penis was and how many girls they had slept with? Is this also where you try to convince me it was girls beating up these boys for having small penises and being virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:38 AM
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That is a complete non answer. Why do so many men, especially red pill men, desire casual sex when it will only cause them irreparable harm?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:35 AM
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Being beaten isn’t solely women. That's why I said for "perceived sluttiness" and was very careful to phrase it that way. Men, on the other hand, aren't beaten for small penises and virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:30 AM
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Stoned, no, though murders absolutely happen in the US for perceived sluttiness. As for being beaten, yes that happens all over the place. Conservative, religious communities are not known for being tolerant of women doing...much of anything. which amendment allows for this btw? Do...do you believe that the Constitution is the sole determining factor in how Americans behave?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:17 AM
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Body counts are bad for cheating and men are already more likely to cheat. Surely these men should be thankful to be spared the irreparable harm caused by casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 05:13 AM
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If body counts are so bad, why do so many men here complain about not getting casual sex? Shouldn't they be grateful to be spared the inevitable statistical likelihood of cheating, especially since men are already more likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:40 AM
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The things you're saying actually bare out in the stats. They absolutely do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:04 AM
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"Who is hornier" is the dumbest, most meaningless discussion that red pillers harp on incessantly. Who the fuck cares? Men and women both get horny, some men and women both get horny way above average and some men and women get horny way below average. Does anybody but red pillers really care which gender gets hornier on average? Have they ever even offered a reason why it matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:03 AM
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Probably because men aren't savagely beaten or stoned to death for being virgins or having small penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:54 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:05 PM
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Well that's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:03 PM
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The false equivalence is believing you can't be masculine and be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:17 PM
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Men can love women much lower in status than them So can women. I think one of the reasons these men came up with the SMV concept is because we watch women play the game for the best guy they can. Everybody tries to get the best partner they can. The part that is always ignored is that everybody has a different definition of who the best partner is. It turns out traits associated with dominance and status. Men don’t look for status. Women do. This is utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:13 PM
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Yes, if I raised a kid that isn't biologically mine for many years, Nah, even this is bullshit. By the time I held that little kid, I don't give a fuck who the "real" dad is, my baby was mine. Because bad things happen to good people that least expect it, even those with good judgement. Yes, if my friend demanded a paternity test because they thought I was swapping babies, I would be offended. I already clarified this to you. Yes, and then I pointed out there was no need for the friend to be off…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:24 PM
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It is not your child If you raised them, they are your child. If you think the only thing attaching you to children is DNA, there are millions of adopted children and blended families who would beg to differ. If a woman came up to you and said "raise my kid" that you knew wasn't yours Yes, there is no difference between raising a child and a stranger on the street hurling their child at you. You are completely missing the point The point is that you don't know whether it was your friend If I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:06 PM
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I can't empathise with this hateful position. That doesn't surprise me. It is clear that many men here will readily abandon their children, depriving them of the only father they have ever known, if it turns out they don't have their DNA. My point is that the consequences are unjustified. My point is that they aren't. No, it is not an accident If my friend is intentionally swapping babies, they're not my friend and I don't give a fuck what they think. Don't obtusely ignore the alternate provided…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:03 PM
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What would you tell someone that trusted their partner, so they didn't get a paternity test, but was cheated on and ended up raising another man's kid I would tell them that really sucks you were cheated on. I would also say that if the love of their child was contingent on the kid having their genes and not simply the fact that they cared for and raised them, they're probably a shitty person. The point of my text you are responding to is that trust is irrelevant to whether the kid is yours or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:47 PM
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Then get a test. This is a "problem" that already has a solution. If there is a law stating the father must take a paternity test No, you can just request a test and stop using other men to subsidize your paranoia. A paternity test has nothing to do with her mother at any rate. The opinion of women on this matter is meaningless. I'm a man, so swing and a miss on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:23 PM
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Precautionary measures are not an accusation. Barcode scanners when you walk out of a shop are not an accusation of stealing. Airline security is not an accusation that you are a terrorist. It is absolutely an accusation and note how you picked two examples that rely on the fact that the people being exposed to them are perfect strangers. If a store spent years getting to know each customer personally before they were allowed in the store, it would absolutely feel like an accusation that they st…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:52 AM
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Your issue seems to be that the woman gets a choice whether or not she's into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:04 AM
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Why would women need to lie if they aren't given shit about sleeping with someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:25 AM
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Wait till you hear about body counts!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:06 AM
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Taylor is a narcissistic and obsessed with attention. That’s toxic and it’s exhausting. She also has so many failed relationships. It seems like she is a train wreck trying to mascarade as a normal all American girl when in reality how is she any different than a Kardashian? "Obsessed with attention" is a really weird to say "best selling, internationally popular musician." Taylor Swift is a great window into how women are treated and viewed, the absurd level of vitriol she gets for being checks…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:54 PM
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It's a paywalled chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:50 PM
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They might not pay them, but evidently they're quite popular to follow on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:16 PM
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You admit that your claim was a mistake, No, I admit I misstated the number. It's 50%, not 100%. but you are still arguing with me that you can prove your claim Because I updated the comment awhile ago, included an edit, and provided the source. But you were never actually interested in good faith debate, that's why you're still inexplicably furious that I had the gall to checks notes make a claim and back it up. you did not provide any evidence for the claim you made. That's a lie. You still di…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:09 AM
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You claimed that men are twice as likely to cheat That was a mistake on my part. The correct statistics is 50% more likely, not 100 % more likely. I updated my comment accordingly, and provided a source upon request in my previous comment. "I haven't personally seen the evidence" is not the same as "unsubstantiated." Lol, really? Really!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:38 AM
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I don't understand people like you. Did you fail to realise that your own claim is unsubstantiated? It's not unsubstantiated at all. Or did you realise you yourself did not provide evidence Nobody asked. Why are you getting so mad that nobody asked me for a source like it's my fault? So, first put your money where your mouth is and provide evidence for the claim you made https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america Can I see your source now, please? Tell you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:25 AM
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If they want to ask for a source, they can ask for one. I haven't denied providing a source to anyone here because no one has asked. God red pillers are so fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:12 PM
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Please, share this research.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:57 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:36 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:32 PM
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Men and relationships exist in ages besides their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:31 PM
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Men are 50% more likely to cheat compared to women. Emotional attachment != healthy attachment EDIT: I incorrectly stated men are twice as likely to cheat, they are 50% more likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:54 PM
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This is just a weird, arbitrary distinction you pulled out of your butt. No it's not. Women don't try and say the babies wanted it. Men, on the other hand, frequently try and say women wanted to be raped. Here, let's try another one. Can you find me a survey where 1/3 of women say they would kill a child if they could get away with it? Because.... It's also very strange you chose this example since men are more likely to kill children than women. That's just silly. No, it's not. Red pillers are …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:01 PM
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Social media algorithms are more complex that the smooth brains on this sub make them out to be. Certainly. Doesn't change the fact it still shows you what you want to see. and get big online without any mainstream pushback. So big that you can't even remember the name but you're acting like they're on the same level as Andrew Tate. This is a super common red pill tactic by the way. They will take the most extreme thing they can find women saying online and compare it to shit red pillers say eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:28 PM
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They still do it. That must mean that all women need to be taught not to. Sure, can you show me an instance of a woman saying the baby wanted it? It's a negative, class-based generalization. That's a slur No, it's not. But I know red pillers et al are desperate to make it seem like it is. Purposely Yes, the patriarchy is purposely gendered. It's another gender-slur. It's not, and the fact that you think it is says more about you than feminists. More imaginary bullshit. "Facts I don't like aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:24 PM
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hat's like saying we need to teach girls not to kill infants for attention. It's not, because those women don't try and defend themselves by saying the baby wanted it. Toxic masculinity is a bigoted gender-slur. No, but red pillers et al are desperate to make it seem like to discredit feminists. The message is clear. Obviously "patriarchy" is gendered as well. Yes, the patriarchy is gendered. The fact that you believe "patriarchy is bad" means "men are bad" says far more about you than it does f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:47 PM
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Men's mental health is easily the biggest issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:38 PM
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You can't go around insisting boys are dumb Not a thing. and need to be taught not to rape, This is a thing, because boys and men shouldn't rape people and, for some reason, dudes on Reddit find this to be a controversial statement. that their masculinity is a huge problem Deliberate distortion. Toxic masculinity is a huge problem. Masculinity is not. that men are the core root of all the problems Not a thing. Then send mixed signals like "Women really want a non masculine, femine, kind gentle m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:08 PM
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Can you please show the meta-analysis you performed to make this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:59 PM
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It's the male reaction to feminism. Red pill has no desire to actually deal with men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:55 PM
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I was scrolling on tiktok and came across yet another genz/millennial woman saying insanely misandrist things about men to hundreds of thousands of likes except this time I noticed something different. It is incredible how many people are consumed with TikTok and still do not understand the basics of social media feeds. She and the other women like her I ended up finding are just the same kinds of grifters as Andrew Tate or any other male redpiller. Who is she? Will anyone around here have even …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:54 PM
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When it comes older women shaming men in their 30s or older for dating a woman in her 20s Hold up. This is a very common weasel wording to motte and bailey age gap discussions. A 39 year old dating a 20 year old and a 30 year old dating a 29 year old would both be "30s dating someone in their 20s," but clearly they are very different situations. The issue is always large age gap relationships with very young people. The reason it is often frowned upon is due to the large potential for abuse and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:41 PM
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No, the reason wide age gap relationships are shunned for very young people is they are ripe for abuse and manipulation. Believe it or not, people don't spend every waking moment trying to manipulate the "sexual marketplace," that's just red pill delusion. It's also very strange you chose these examples: go to war or buy a gun Since they are controversial specifically because many/most 18 year olds lack the understanding and life experience to handle these situations responsibly. Finally, when m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:37 PM
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A lot of dudes around here would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:51 PM
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My question is why is everything framed as men's fault? It's not If women are having trouble getting dates these days. We should be encouraging them to pursue and put the onus on them Then do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:40 PM
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I never claimed Google Home was a valid source, that's a lie you invented to deflect from what I actually said. If you have a problem with the definition of sexual harassment, you can take it up with the legal community.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:12 PM
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Ok? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:10 PM
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https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=sexual+harassment+
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:00 PM
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No, but I know that's what the red pill persecution complex needs to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:59 PM
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"Approaching with romantic intent" is a very vague statement, especially since 81% of women experience sexual harassment. Also, why is men thinking twice a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:45 PM
4

Who is being criminalized for simply approaching a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:32 PM
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It's not misleading at all. The commenter brought pedophilia and I'm expounding on that. And you're still dodging a very simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:23 PM
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Everyone else around you knows pedos are bad Then I am confused, because the original commenter was aghast that men could be shamed for age preferences, yet here we are agreeing that age preferences are indeed shamed. Do you think it's because age carries with it other factors compared to, say, height or weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:57 PM
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I didn't ask if adult women were children I asked if pedophilia should be shamed. It's a very simple question but it is proving tremendously difficult to get a straight answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:42 PM
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No, I just asked if pedophilia should be shamed. It's amazing how difficult y'all are finding this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:41 PM
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I didn't ask if a 25 year old was a child, I asked if they thought pedophilia should be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:49 PM
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That's not what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:48 PM
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Everything in life "depends" but debating/discussing is pointless unless we speak in generalities. The commenter was quite clear what they meant, it depends on whether their child is happy. But you wouldn't want them to be stuck not dating because they don't have a choice. If they're unhappy with that status, then clearly it would be a matter of concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:57 AM
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Women HATE short men No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:54 AM
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It depends on the person. Some people are happy alone. Some people are happy running a cash register their whole lives. Why would a parent insist on telling their child that their happiness is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:50 AM
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The beliefs of red pill men et al, such as "fat women are land whales" aren't accurate because it's from terminally online dudes that don't reflect real life. But the beliefs of red pill men et al, such as "men are shamed for their preferences" is totes 100% accurate to real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:46 AM
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equated to pedophelia Pedophilia shouldn't be shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:43 AM
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Men are not shamed for having preferences. Men are shamed for being assholes about those preferences. Not wanting to date fat women? Perfectly fine! Insisting on telling people you don't want to date fat women, that you are repulsed by "land whales?" Asshole! he fat acceptance movement/plus size model movement? This is a perfect example. Fat acceptance is about fat women being allowed to exist without hating themselves. Asshole dudes, however, cannot comprehend a woman not basing their lives aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:38 AM
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People are completely capable of being happy without a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:31 AM
1

We need to stop treating "sexual inequality" like it's a real thing. It's not. Men are not being systematically denied sex while harems congregate at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:29 PM
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That's not an experience, it's an opinion. It's still their own experience. If a whore finds jesus That doesn't explain how the definitions prove that she's lying. Can you please answer the question I actually asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:50 AM
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Please, explain how definitions prove the commenter is lying about their own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:41 AM
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Nobody said casual sex was a requirement for monogamy. The commenter just said it helped them find monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:24 AM
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TIL casual sex and cheating are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:16 AM
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What has led you to believe it's always one or the other? When I was younger, I gravitated toward casual sex a) because I was busy with other aspects of my life and b) wanted to experiment and enjoy things while I was young. As I got older and my life became more stabilized, I wanted to find someone long term to share that with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:15 AM
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lipping a coin means taking chances. English is not my first language but even i understand that. No, it means taking a chance where either outcome is equally likely. Clearly you don't understand that. I don't need none of that thanks. So then why are you complaining about a hypothetical wife that you wouldn't marry in the first place? Is there no girls like that or are there girls like that? So they're all like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:00 PM
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Who asked anyone to flip a coin? That's some bizarre nonsense you just made up. where he might be pleasing someone that fucked a guy in the bathroom of a club? So what if she did? That there are noone that fucked a guy in bathroom of a clu Oh so all women have fucked dudes in the bathroom of a club?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:49 PM
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Cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:26 PM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:06 PM
1

This reminds me of how my parents used to call every game console a Nintendo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:59 PM
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trying to please someone that fucked a guy in the bathroom of a club. And instantly you fabricate a sexual scenario designed to try and denigrate women and be inflammatory, completely unprompted. Red pillers love doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:55 PM
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They want a socially liberal man who is capable of sexually dominating them How is this "benevolent misogyny" if it's consensual? and a man who can financially provide without telling them to stay home. Incorrect. Most women want a man who is financially stable and financially comparable. The "provider" nonsense is just red pill rhetoric trying to paint any woman who cares about her partner's career as a low key gold digger (but when men care about women's career, that's ok).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:43 AM
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Do y'all really not hold doors open for everyone or treat your platonic friends to dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:33 AM
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It's true. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:10 AM
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Men who get pregnant have the same exact rights as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:37 AM
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I'm no longer interested in continuing this thing Ok bye
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:29 AM
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Boy are you in for a shock when you learn anything about what society has said for the last 1,000 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:18 AM
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And if a man is the type of person that is obsessed with that kind of completely meaningless power play, they've got waaaaay bigger issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:55 PM
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Trust me, men who have experience in respectful long term relationships roll our eyes so hard at the guys who think they're edgy and alpha by calling us "subservient" for exercising basic courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:17 PM
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Men than can't make any decision without their wife's approval. This is a classic "I've never been in a serious relationship with mutual respect" take. When you're in a serious relationship, you are courteous to your partner. When I call my wife to ask if it's alright to go out to the bar with the guys, I'm a) first and foremost letting her know I won't be home at the time she originally expected me and I'm not lying in a ditch somewhere b) checking to make sure nothing is going on that needs my…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 10:05 PM
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Saying they need sex (which I don't agree with) is not the same as being entitled. Saying "women should have sex with me because of x, y, and z" is absolutely being entitled to sex. Should that make a difference? Yes, asking for sex is quite different from asking for help. That's usually the end stage If being nice was contingent on getting sex for it, then you weren't actually nice to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:56 PM
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You said that the reason was not because they are lonely men but that the actual reason was because they're bitter misogynists. Correct. I didn't, however, say lonely men have never been insulted for any other reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:41 PM
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Where did I say it was the only reason? I even considered myself to be a feminist at that point And it would seem you no longer believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:04 PM
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Being bullied as a kid does not negate the existence of red pillers online spreading misogynistic rhetoric and then claiming they're the victim when they get called on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:56 PM
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More loaded language. It's not really loaded at all. You can see it every day on this sub, dudes will say, "I'm not entitled to sex" and then proceed to list all the reasons they should get sex. they rudely brush you off, does thinking they were rude mean you felt entitled to their help? These men are asking women for help? "showing any hint of a complaint or negative emotion regarding this situation." No, that's more motte-and-bailey bullshit. Bitching that women are all sleeping with asshole c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:39 PM
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Actually nice guys get women all the time. "Nice" guys who are "nice" right up until the moment they don't get the sex they think they are entitled to aren't actually nice, and they're rightly called out for their misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:25 PM
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no, people are really simple Oh well then, explain people, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:03 PM
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It's not really a paradox. It's men irritated that they don't find fat women attractive and those fat women don't hate themselves for existing while being unattractive. So rather than deal with their own issues regarding women, they decide to make it everyone else's problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:57 PM
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The myth is, and always has been, that women scorn men simply for being lonely. No, the issue is when lonely men start spouting misogynistic red pill bullshit and then get called out on it, those men start crying that women are "demonizing" them just for being lonely. This is a very common motte-and-bailey tactic used by red pillers to paint women (and feminists in particular) as the villains against men who just want companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:31 PM
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That's still not the same as "she knows who the real father is."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:29 PM
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No, I can easily condemn a man who would abandon a child. My daughter is 10 months old and if it turned out she wasn't biologically mine, she's still my daughter and tough luck to whoever the bio dad is, he hasn't been here taking care of her. I could have told you after a week that she is my daughter and will always be my daughter, regardless of DNA. The real fact is these dudes don't actually want to be parents and will look for any excuse to abandon their responsibilities. Look how many dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:28 PM
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Great, then go get your paternity test done so you can check if your spouse is a "cheating whore."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:23 PM
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Should we normalize the expectation We should absolutely not normalize the expectation that women are always lying about paternity. It's because this particular situation There's not a situation. There's a completely hypothetical claim based on largely fictional Reddit posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:53 AM
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has a high chance Yeah this is always the backpedaling when a bullshit story is called out. but yet when a woman does you throw all agency out the door for her actions? No, that's a lie you invented to deflect from what I actually said. if she’s uncertain maybe she should let the man know to get a paternity test? Well golly mister, that's a far cry from "she knows who the real father is and he's a deadbeat for not raising the kid but the poor cuckolded ex is morally justified in abandoning a chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:31 PM
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And plenty of guys are nice, it doesn't stop them from getting girlfriends. It sounds like a lot of lonely dudes are just looking for an excuse to treat women like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:26 PM
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I’m sure the woman knows who came in her, Do you think when a woman gets pregnant, she gets a text message from her uterus saying "the real father is ____"? That's why it's so easy to spot all these fake paternity fraud Reddit stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:29 PM
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Meanwhile most nice guys just lament being lonely, and they are told it's because they are entitled misogynist creeps. Nah. "Nice" guys who lament being lonely by blaming bullshit like the 80/20 rule or that women only date losers, or any of the various flavors of alpha/beta nonsense while fully admitting they won't do housework if they make more money, demand sex on the same exact time scale as the fastest guy she ever slept with, don't care if she orgasms, will not tolerate any revealing cloth…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:49 PM
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Like the guy doesn’t exist If the guy doesn't know, how could he step up? There's always these baffling assumptions in Reddit paternity fraud fanfic. And yeah, if you abandon your kid, especially after 7 years, because you find out they aren't biologically yours, you're an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:39 PM
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It's u/HydeDiscolsFromHell and u/pilulenoir back to make more vague, mass shooting-esque threats. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/16gsk16/comment/k09ibeq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18vecg2/comment/kfz530y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button u/MrsDegree, can this be escalated to admins? This guy is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:08 AM
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Bias in what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:37 PM
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I don't have to handwave anything away, you have a single pay walled study that says nothing about misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:31 PM
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No, I correctly stated what people generally don't want to hear from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:30 PM
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At that point we are having an ideological battle. I suggest you talk to a mental health professional and find out whether despair is considered healthy. Redpillers convinced that they are right. Abd people like you convinced that all of them are delusional No, reality has proven they are delusional. Hell, half the stuff they cite as sources for their beliefs prove that they are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:25 PM
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Suggestingtherapy means they 'think' you have bigger issues than being single Correct. Any advice given will be what people "think" is best. Being in despair, being sad, being frustrated abd being angry are all normal responses to failure. Frustrated and sad, sure. Despair? No, that's unhealthy. And therapy is rarely suggested for those who are simply sad or frustrated. When that sadness and frustration manifests into absurd beliefs and misogyny, then the issue is not simply that you need to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:55 PM
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But I mean, that's what you're saying. Society is systemically demonizing men while celebrating women for the same thing? That's pure red pill, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:52 PM
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People just don’t like to hear men complain about not getting dates is all. But for some reason there’s a huge industry for listening to women complain about the boyfriends and husbands they picked. This is 100% a red pill thing. "Men are oppressed and women have everything for no reason" is pure red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:51 PM
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Yes, I'm fully aware. So then what are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:01 PM
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So...then what is the original commenter complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:00 PM
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Sorry, are you saying "women are only dating the top 20% of men and giving false advice to every other man" isn't widespread? Or "feminists have resulted in demonizing men throughout society" isn't widespread?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:48 PM
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And yet it is astonishingly widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:40 PM
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People just don’t like to hear men invent elaborate conspiracies about how women are systemically denying them dates and creating a society that hates them is all. Fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:37 PM
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Suggesting therapy means you have bigger issues than simply being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:36 PM
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Bernie has zero character Incorrect. I’ve read, he’s a controlling, abusive asshole in his personal relationships. Read where?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:26 PM
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I'm attracted to her physically, but something is preventing it from progressing further. I had one FWB where we were both physically attracted, but both agreed that we'd probably drive each other nuts in a relationship. Maybe I'm just not looking for a full relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:50 AM
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So if you're indistinguishable...you're just showing pictures of yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:23 AM
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You can go find an actual photo of an actual male model. How is AI going to do better than actual photos of actual humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:10 AM
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But you can already do that. Right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:59 AM
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Catfishing is already realistic because it's people pretending to be other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:45 AM
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You seem to be struggling with this basic concept. You sure? I'm pretty good at math. The chores at home would still be split 50/50. It's not expecting her to do more, it's equality. If she works 60 hours, and he works 40 hours, and they both do 10 hours of chores and you are claiming this is equal: 60 + 10 = 40 + 10 70 = 50 But 70 does not equal 50. 70 is greater than 50. You seem to be struggling with this basic concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:31 AM
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The wife working more hours at her job and then expecting her to work more hours at home isn't equality, hence why it's not fair. It's not equality if the husband now had to top up his wife's salary. Is the husband paying the wife for household chores? How is her salary being "topped up?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:09 AM
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You only picked one aspect of the job that could result in an imbalance of hours, ignoring the longer hours and lower pay. So why should the wife be punished if, as you already acknowledged, it's not fair for her to do more work when she's working longer hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:02 AM
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How is that equality? "I worked 60 hours and you only worked 40, but you made more money so therefore I should have to spend more time doing chores?" I don't think you understand what equality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:46 PM
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So you should punish the wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:38 PM
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Every year he open up to donations knowing very well that he won't win, promising things he can't fulfill. That's not a scam, he doesn't run every year, and he has won three elections. https://imgur.com/a/dtT8iGm Where does that say he wants to eat millionaires? And what year is this even from, Senators make waaaaaaay more than $42k. I think that someone that care about wealth inequality to engage on it less. To "engage on" what less? You should know you think he's a example of masculinity. Ah, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:44 PM
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A scammer What scam has he run? that had as discourse eat the millionaire until he becomes a millionaire. Bernie Sanders said eat millionaires? Someone that can even stick to his own word out of own benefit? Do you think taxing the rich means no rich people? Someone that was never able to move past his losses. And what loss has been unable to move past? Is this that you think masculinity is? Oh please, needlessly combative Reddit "man," tell me more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:00 PM
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Mr. Rogers, Bernie Sanders, Brendan Fraser, Keanu Reeves, possibly Terry Crews.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:17 PM
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Because women aren't required to admit to personal information for the satisfaction of random Internet weirdos? Talk to women you actually know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:38 PM
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Are y'all being paid to endorse these idiotic channels? Women's desperate need for equality (equality for women but not men though, because obviously not all men are equal and no woman believes that) What equality are women denying men? Is this another "women won't fuck any man who offers and that's not equality" argument? To blatantly deny reality or act as if their value has not been lowered in any way when they very clearly know it has; to save status. To blatantly deny red pill "reality" In …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 06:33 PM
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Y'all have the weirdest hangups with women, I swear. "My mother was once scandalous, she's dead to me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:26 PM
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Men on Reddit do not represent normal every day boys(?). Most men are not obsessing over the myth that women are only fucking the top 20% of men, or are trying to find a submissive man to raise her kids, or are scorning men because of their canthal tilt. Red pill "advice," where it actually is their advice and not just common sense like "go to the gym," is irrelevant to everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:31 PM
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Okay, whatever floating definition you want to use, it's still not universal. Because a woman probably doesn’t want to deal with other women sexually lusting after her man, I would assume that would get tiring after a while. I have never heard a woman say this but I hear insecure dudes say this all the time about why they would never date a hot woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:11 PM
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I'm still not certain what exactly you're referring to You have no idea what a person's value as a partner is but know exactly what someone's value as a mate is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:49 PM
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Their value as a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:46 PM
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Do you think a person's value is dictated entirely by their physical appearance and bank account?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:43 PM
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Exactly. And half the crap dudes here claim makes a high value woman has little or no value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:40 PM
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Yes, those are literally the only two people that exist in the world. Hot and rich, fat and poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:37 PM
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What is this obsession with having a uniform definition of a "high value" partner? What people consider "high value" is going to vary wildly from person to person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:29 PM
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She's wearing sleeves down to her elbows and shorts down to her mid thigh. In what universe is that "next to nothing?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:53 PM
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Yeah you keep saying "next to nothing" and then completely failing to identify what is "next to nothing" for you. You're ranting about bikinis but then post a video where there are no bikinis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:41 PM
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I guess it's a step up from when red pillers used to claim that women were cheating with their dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:40 PM
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always carrying a sexual connotation in everything that you do, it reflects poorly on your character. You are the one always seeing a sexual connotation, it reflects poorly on your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:38 PM
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However, bluepilled guys here seem to think that its GUARANTEED to work Lie. There is no guaranteed method and blue pillers are not purporting self improvement will get you dates. First off, doing self improvement to get dates misses the point of self improvement. You do it for yourself. Second, this demonstrates the complete incapacity of many men here to comprehend any advice or piece of information as being one extreme or the other. When people are saying "work on yourself" as dating advice, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:33 PM
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The original commenter said attraction is complicated and vague, you replied "a lot of women like tall men" but now you're agreeing it doesn't really matter that much since women end up with men of all shapes and sizes? You were just injecting a random piece of trivia?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:26 PM
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Okay, so?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:54 PM
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Women fucking, dating, and marrying men of all shapes and sizes is not a vague pattern either, but apparently that one doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:43 PM
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Red pill: going to the gym is a good idea Blue pill: Red pill is full of shit and the few good pieces of advice like "go to the gym" are just common sense that red pill has tried to claim as it's own
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:32 PM
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It might not be true for most people, but it is true of a fuckload of people and you can see that attitude every day on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:44 PM
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The original commenter literally believes that the difficult part is getting one girlfriend, and then the women come rolling in. Anybody who has ever dated can tell you that's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:49 PM
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The issue, as is the issue with all "scientific" claims made by red pill ideology, is that it takes what is otherwise described as a trend, tendency, or correlation and presents as an inviolable, universal truth. This is the same thinking that produces nonsense such as "women find tall men more attractive" is equivalent to "women only want tall men." Everything must always be one extreme or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:28 PM
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Everybody has lust and stability criteria. I'll really blow your mind: there's even MORE criteria than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:41 PM
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Or maybe your belief that this is an immutable, universal experience is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:30 PM
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I'm married, I did not see an uptick in attention when I got married. When I was single, I found nearly all my dates on apps, so "woman seeing me with another woman" doesn't apply either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:24 PM
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The only thing red pillers can agree on is that all the other red pillers are wrong about what red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:49 PM
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Who said red pill was a measurement for truth??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:54 PM
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The red pill is about so much more than pick up artists. That is what eventually came to dominate the community, but that's not how it originated. It has always been this way. It's absolutely gotten worse, but I was around when it started getting popular, and it's always been angry dudes spouting misogynistic nonsense, claiming this is how women work and this is how you get them to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:52 PM
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If there is a famously hot actor who has played both the ideal and the antithesis of what red pillers think women want, let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:22 AM
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I should clarify "low-class" as in "low social class," not "vulgar jerk." He's a dance instructor at a summer camp for rich kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:21 AM
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You're not missing much. Apart from Swayze's ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:09 AM
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Hmmm, that's a tough one. I think they show more of his abs, shoulders, and arms in Dirty Dancing, but they very memorably show his ass in Roadhouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:46 AM
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Of course there are different reasons, that's why I said, "they very often speak" and was very careful to phrase it like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:07 PM
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I think it depends where it's coming from. When women say men are terrible, they very often are speaking from lengthy experiences of sexual harassment, sexual assault, rape, abuse, violence, stalking, etc. from many men over the course of their lives. When men say "all women are terrible," they are very often speaking about the fact that women won't fuck or date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:49 PM
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They don't when it comes to actual dating preferences. The issue is that people love to project their dating preferences on to all women, not just the ones they're actually interested in dating. A friend described it, "People see a woman existing in public while being unattractive as a moral failing." You can see this attitude all over this sub. Look at the absolute vitriol and scorn fat women receive on this sub simply for existing. By these guys' own admission, these women aren't even chasing …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:14 PM
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Sure, women promoting it are stupid. It couldn't be that you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:15 PM
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No, but that's the only way I would know if a person in a bar gave me their real name. Someone giving you fake name upon meeting them doesn't harm you. Why would someone be on dating apps with a fake name
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:02 PM
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Lol OP literally said it's being promoted by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:35 PM
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By checking their ID?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:35 PM
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Nope, I understand them fully. No evidence was provided for the claim, so it can be summarily dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:01 PM
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. I simply described the concept of dating as a gynocentric SCAM that revolves around women's emotional nature and a society that ENABLES it. So it's a scam where women are supposedly in control and women make all the decisions, but women don't have exclusive unilateral power to make these decisions. Mk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:00 PM
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By finding purpose and fulfillment in life outside of women. but how is an average guy supposed to actually play the dating game considering he will never be "truly" loved. That's red pill bullshit. Average men find romantic love every single day and you can absolutely receive platonic love from friends. However, if you, yourself, are struggling with finding romatnic love and it is negatively affecting your mental health, then you ought to recalibrate what is the driving purpose in your life. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:51 AM
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Not a valid rebuttal because nobody is even saying that That's exactly what you are saying. Women do not have unlimited power to make unilateral decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 10:31 AM
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Incorrect. Women are not omnipotent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:45 AM
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Right back atcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:20 AM
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TikTok is not a valid source of evidence. That shouldn't need to be explained. Here’s a read The Turkish state newspaper??? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:07 AM
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You're tainted by your bias and hatred against men. Of course, any man who doesn't believe red pill bullshit must hate men. And somehow I'm the one who is arguing in bad faith. Most men aren't posting on Reddit... You know that right? And most men don't scream that women lied to them about finding attractive men attractive, but here we are. You're literally saying that men HAVE NEVER been rejected just because of their looks. And there's the red pill binary. "Your personality makes a difference"…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:06 AM
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That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:49 PM
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You've made zero effort to invalidate them That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:49 PM
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and yet pretend as if they have some sort of innate altruism that makes them look at personality more than men do. How would valuing personality in a partner be altruistic? This seems like you're projecting your own beliefs on to women. And don't pretend as if women many women don't frame it as such that men are shallow compared to them. I mean is that even debatable? Look at how men here talk about physically unattractive women. Then wander over to a place like r/TwoXchromosomes, a supposed bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:47 PM
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genitals People are born intersex ability/design to produce gametes Intersex again, along with people who are sterile and chromosomes Chromosomal abnormalities can exist in people who would otherwise clearly identify as a specific gender. Transphobes love to invoke "science" and "biology" without actually understanding anything about them. Red pillers do the same thing. By my definition So we went from using a "scientific" definition to your definition, which, as demonstrated, is immensely flawe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:35 PM
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Expressing your familiarity with talking points doesn't debunk them. Parroting talking points doesn't validate them. No, I said trying to claim feminists forced the FBI to adopt it as their metric for domestic violence statistics is a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:42 PM
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Oh boy, I can't wait to hear what you think the definition of "biological sex" is. Isn't it crazy how you have to keep playing dumb instead of just making your argument? I wonder why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:23 PM
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Because there's no such thing as a "male woman." You're clearly trying to insinuate trans women are actually men and now you're insulting everyone's intelligence by pretending you have no idea what I could possibly be referring to. If you're going to make transphobic comments, at least have the guts to own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:13 PM
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Nobody is being dishonest. It's a baseless claim from red pillers that women are saying looks don't matter, but when you talk to women they confirm that of course looks matter. The real root of it is these men hearing what they want to hear. "Women are attracted to confidence" immediately becomes "OH SO WOMEN DON'T CARE ABOUT LOOKS??" You can see it almost every day on this sub alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:40 PM
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Mmmm transphobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:28 PM
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They can, however in this case it was a dating site which primarily consists of people uploading "selfies". And that's a perfect example. Women are likely to rate a candid photo of a hot guy doing something like hanging out with friends differently than a bathroom selfie of that same hot guy. You are making your decision based on what is presented in those kind of photos. I am making no decision at all, I'm simply pointing out that women rated photos of men, not men, that ratings of photos are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:27 PM
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This is red pill bullshit. Lemme guess: Duluth Model Mary Koss Erin Pizzey Earl Silverman And a few more I'm forgetting. You can acknowledge failures in the justice system without creating a conspiracy theory that feminists are to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:21 PM
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Because women have fought for it. The largest group of men's advocates care less about gender roles and more about who pays on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:17 PM
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What do you bring to the table in the attraction phase to attract a woman I make them laugh, I engage with them on a personal level, and I have genuine interest in them as people. What do you bring to the table beyond the attraction phase to keep a woman By conveying confidence, showing that I have a fulfilling life on my own, and maintaining the pieces from initial attraction. What do you require your partner or future partner to bring to the table to attract you What do you require your partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:14 PM
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I agree it tends to be brought up in a hostile way, but the root of the question is very valid. If you're having trouble dating, you should think about what you're offering a potential partner and how you're conveying that. A lot of guys complain that women don't like nice guys when the reality is that that's often all that is being shown to these women. They're nice, great, but people want more out of a relationship than someone who is simply nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 09:10 PM
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And my point is that an ugly guy can take a good photo, a hot guy can take a bad photo, people can rate photos differently based on things that have nothing to do with physical attractiveness, and women are showing an overwhelming preference for men with a mean rating of "average" or lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:40 PM
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They rated the men in the photos as below average, are you implying that they objectively rated their capability of taking a photograph of themselves from an artistic/professional point of view ? I implied no such thing since ratings are inherently subjective. I simply pointed out that women were rating photos of men, not men themselves. A hot guy holding a dead fish will be rated differently than that same hot guy holding a puppy. I assume they mean "sent by women first" and my first guess woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:00 PM
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Incorrect. The OKCupid survey found that on average, women rated 80% of men's photos as "below average." In the same survey, in the very same graph, it also found that 80% of messages sent by women were to men with a mean rating of "average" or lower. The survey also notes that it was in fact men who are all chasing a top percentage of women, not the other way around. Red pillers like to omit those two facts because it's inconvenient to their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:42 PM
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By people who seek to strawman it. No, by red pillers. So are you saying that it's reasonable to assume that everyone who voted for Trump in the last two elections is a racist? They're either racist or perfectly comfortable with racists so...what's the difference? re you saying that every person who seeks to criticize the actions of the Israeli government is inherently anti-semitic? No, that's an absurd lie you created to deflect from what I said that actually has no bearing on what I said. Your…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:33 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:59 PM
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That viewpoint is fundamentally contradictory - why would men hate the very people their whole movement is dedicated toward successfully attracting Because wanting to be in a relationship with someone doesn't mean you respect them as a person. These are not mutually exclusive ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:57 AM
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Far too often we see 'characterizations' of the "Red Pill" that are hyperbolic, outrageous, and simply not accurate. For "Red Pill" to be Red Pill it simply has to "acknowledge potentially uncomfortable things that are true." That's great, but in practice it's a pretty rigid ideology. Claiming "that's not what real red pill is" doesn't change the fact that that's how it's used. Many people on this sub inaccurately, hatefully, and foolishly have an idea that "Red Pill" = exclusively some attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:55 AM
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"It seems like men are focused exclusively on sex." "That's so simplistic!" "That's all men say though." "Well what do you expect??!"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:10 AM
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Not really true. Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:26 AM
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And skinny people can have a big ass. But a small ass was considered more attractive for several decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:26 AM
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It's a misleading statistic from a survey OKCupid did like 13 years ago and has since been morphed into whatever point a red piller wants to make. You're absolutely right that they will variously argue it refers to dates, attractiveness, sex, matches, or whatever else happens to be convenient at hand. That's how you can tell it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:52 AM
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they were just denied any love or opportunity to love, they're scared, they're confused, they're angry, because they feel lost and locked out, they don't know how to fix it and nobody's providing any practical, relevant help, or even positivity, encouragement, and understanding. How could you expect them not to feel defensive and upset when they don't see anything in the world that would allow them to feel otherwise? It's odd you start by saying it's a sexist generalization and then end with exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:44 AM
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I mean, if you read around here or any relationship advice page for any length of time, is it that surprising that people get that impression? It is the singular focus of so many people who comment here, in addition to complaining incessantly about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:28 AM
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Bigger butts were always attractive too. They weren't. That's why he wrote an entire song about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:36 PM
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I fully get what you're saying. I'm saying it's not accurate. You can even prove it because in the 70s and 80s, tight little butts were preferred. Then going into the 00s and 10s, big butts became attractive. That's what the song "Baby Got Back" is all about, liking big butts was going against the mainstream view of what was attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:28 PM
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Except that healthy people still have butts of all shapes and sizes, as do unhealthy people. Pre-diabetes is correlated with weight, which in turn is related to ass size.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:11 PM
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No it doesn't. Healthy people have butts of all shapes and sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:03 PM
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One bluepiller whose personal life is a shit show makes red pill right, but red pillers whose lives are in shambles don't prove it wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:03 PM
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If you look at almost anything people regard as attractive, it doesn't make sense on a fundamental level. Why are butts sexy? That's where the poop comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:59 PM
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Sure, but these discussions almost universally revolve around sex, even if it is ostensibly "everything."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:28 AM
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Body count, weight, male friends, social media posts, are just a few counterpoints off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:30 PM
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Is this the "if she ever did any sex act for an ex, she must do it for me" argument again?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:24 PM
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Is a woman who embraces and hones her sexuality from a personal perpective and not sharing it with other man considered high value for being confident in her desires and exploring her own pleasure, or is there still a stigma attached? Why are you letting others determine what is "high value?" Shouldn't high value be something that you personally determine?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:20 PM
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It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic and reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure. You don't have to love someone to have sex with them. Other than that, you've already identified why it's desirable. It's generally pleasurable, exciting, and fun. I simply can’t believe that this is a good thing for society. There needs to be a degree of modesty and chastity, for goodness sake. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:44 PM
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I mean if it doesn't bother you that MRAs don't actually care about men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:31 PM
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Implying that this trend is related to RP. The trend of being served content that reflects their worldview is absolutely related to red pill, just like it's related to Trumpism. What else are you saying If not that ad makers are targeting redpillers with "content" not ads lol. I never said ads, YOU said ads. I said content is being aimed at red pillers that reflects exactly what they want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:15 PM
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porn ads? Not necessarily porn bots specifically Still aren't reading, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:04 PM
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No, and in fact if you'd actually bothered to read my comment, you would see that I specifically say not porn bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:00 PM
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How does that negate the fact that red pillers consume content that reflects their views while purporting that it represents the world at large?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:50 PM
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As opposed to becoming a bitter misogynist in slavish devotion to red pill myths?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:51 PM
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I see women bitch about short guys on TikTok all the time Because that's the content you engage with. which is far more mainstream than Reddit. It is far more used than Reddit, that doesn't make the opinions expressed "mainstream."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:48 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that it was still socially taboo. Servicemen throughout history and particularly during wars (during WWI, STDs incapacitated 18,000 men per day) have always frequented sex workers, but it's still taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:09 PM
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Well, it's because the men are horrible husbands and deserve it". Yeah nobody says that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:59 PM
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1936 produced the infamous "Reefer Madness" film. Go back to the 50s and you have the introduction of mandatory sentences for drug crimes (weed in particular was viewed as a dangerous habit of black people). Go back to the 80s and you have the start of the war on drugs and even harsher penalties for drug crimes. Drugs have been taboo for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:57 PM
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They're not anymore, because people pushed to normalize it. Go back several decades and it's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:51 PM
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wheres you big MRA political movement to legalize prostitution? Oh that's easy, MRAs only care about issues where they can throw it women's faces. An issue like this where not only can they not blame women, but they're actually elevating them, would be intolerable. It's much easier for MRAs and red pillers to be intensely scornful of women doing sex work while being consumers of said work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:50 PM
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Drug legalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:48 PM
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I see that from women all the time, I rarely see that from men, however. Many men, especially the type of men who post here, are intensely scornful of women doing sex work despite their own consumption of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:47 PM
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This is the vast majority of what red pillers claim what women are like. Not necessarily porn bots specifically, but manufactured content aimed at being outrageous or controversial specifically for driving engagement because it mirrors exactly what they want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:58 PM
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So then you are agreeing that women are dating men less then lol. That doesn't mean they're dating or trying to date the top 20% of men, which is the red pill claim. Low birthrates due to being overworked and thing are too expensive to raise kids Sounds like there's a need for economic reform, yet I rarely hear red pillers advocating for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:49 PM
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They aren't though, that's the point. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting some dude spouting red pill garbage yet for all the time I spend on dating subs, feminist spaces, and just talking to women in general, I rarely, if ever, hear them say the shit they supposedly say all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:46 PM
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You understand that immigration isn't the US and other countries finding people to bring over right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:42 PM
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I mean it's literally a graph of the data he collected? Here's a graph: https://nces.ed.gov/nceskids/createagraph/graphwrite.aspx?ID=feaf16ad8bc64921acfc9430c27ff03b&r=4119.7595667&file=png See? In the study I conducted, men have a much bigger advantage. The graph proves it. Would an excel spreadsheet convince you more? Probably not. Of course not. You can put whatever the fuck you want in an Excel spreadsheet, doesn't mean the data is legitimate. Good lord. Plenty more studies Yeah, I've seen t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:13 AM
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Oh shut up. No? The articles I posted all make it abundantly clear that demography is these countries biggest challenges No, they don't. The articles about demography you posted make it clear demography is a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:21 AM
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a qualitative study. It is not a study. It is a blog post where a dude claims he ran an experiment for which he provides no data but the graphs are totally legit just trust him bro. It must be so nice to always be right. I mean it's pretty easy to see a blog post is not a legitimate source of data when you haven't built your identity around believing it must be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:14 AM
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Yes, your blog post is cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:08 AM
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In other words, women are chasing the top 20% and having casual sex with them up until a certain age No they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:07 AM
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No, its the birth rate. Tell me you don't know anything about geopolitics without telling me you don't know anything about geopolitics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:56 AM
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LOL you believe people are coming to western simply out of goodwill? That's not what I said and that's not what you said. I asked what has led you to believe a low birth rate causes immigration. You deflected. Can you answer the question that was actually asked and not what you wish was asked? Are you slow?? No, and it's really weird you highlighted exactly the point I was making and acted like I didn't understand it. But this is typical of red pill arguments (along with insults instead of respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:54 AM
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There's a lot of influencers promoting the idea that all women are perfect queens, and should never settle for less than perfection. Red Pill gurus are no better, though. This is the problem though. We are consistently comparing the most extreme things women on the Internet say (frequently targeted people like red pillers for outrage clicks) with the things that men around here say every single day and act like they're two sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:50 AM
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So...massive amounts of immigration sending economies and politics haywire. What had led you to believe birth rates cause immigration? Just LOL. The redpill is merely a symptom/response to a world is drastically changing both socially, politically and economically Yes, there have historically been kooks decrying change as the end of civilization every time civilization changes and they've all been wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:28 AM
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Lol yeah it must be the birth rate. Couldn't be anything else happening in China or Russia that would cause people to have a negative outlook. Red pillers continue to show how deluded they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 01:07 AM
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There's also plenty of people with overly inflated egos thinking it's everyone else's fault they can't find someone to meet their sky high standards. The red pill bullshit is believing that this group of people is somehow new or significantly larger than it has been previously. These people have always existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:52 AM
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unprecedented The birth rate has been declining since the peak of the baby boom. we are below replacement. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:56 PM
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how did we even get here? Because the "truths" that are peddled by dudes on social media (in particular on dating subs on Reddit) are wholesale horseshit. Women are not exclusively chasing the top 20% of men, it's just a cope made up by those men to explain why they're single. Women are more financially independent than ever, which means they are less tolerant of shitty relationships. Likewise, developed countries will see a population decline as people have fewer kids (a well documented phenome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:56 PM
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Ah sorry, misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's a thinly veiled threat that all the angry red pill dudes will revolt against society because they're not getting the sex they think they're entitled to. Alternatively, it's the "population decline!" chicken littling. But you won't ever get a straight answer, because if they did that, then you could refute their claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:50 PM
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I have, that's how I know it's bullshit. Also, declaring something a fact doesn't actually make it a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:47 PM
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Meanwhile they're average, only trying to go for fit tall guys with money. Nah, that's red pill bullshit used to dismiss women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:44 PM
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which mean they need to be listened to and protected by society and institutions. They're spoken about as being right, at some higher, broader level, about what they personally feel. You are proposing that women do not know what they feel and shouldn't be listened to? "well that's just silly, you're one weird oversensitive asexual woman But it's not one woman, that's just a red pill deflection to avoid acknowledging the reality of the situation. The entire point is that it's not just one woman, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:55 PM
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Then evidently there are no alphas out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:01 AM
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but that opinion is irrelevant to men who go after what they want. Ah yes, the classic masculine trait of not caring what women want. they are mentally capable of handling negative social consequences Hahahaha I don't know if you assumed I was a woman and that you could slip that nonsense by, but that is insanely untrue. Indeed, all these red pill "alphas" can't go 10 seconds without whining that anybody has an opinion about what they do to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:44 AM
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Why do so many dudes here seem upset that women get to have an opinion about being hit on?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:53 AM
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Because your observation is suffering from significant bias. While it is true most women don't want guys significantly younger, most women also don't want guys significantly older.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:45 PM
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Nah that shit is how you get paradoxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:06 PM
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No, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:09 PM
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I mean depending on the ages it can go anywhere from "who cares" to "call the police." On first impression, it does sound like a weak rationalization for older men to pursue young, virginal women. As always, it falls into the weird argument that it's okay to subject women to bad sex as long as they don't know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:15 AM
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No dude family court will investigate a dude for his finances but not a woman Source? and support maybe for the child but that ain't no 500 a month per kid Lol wait till you find out how much it actually costs to raise a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 07:37 PM
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In a divorce Divorce is not a benefit of marriage. she is almost always awarded custody The vast majority of custody arrangements are reached without any court involvement whatsoever and when men ask for more custody, they almost always get it. and usually the judge orders that she gets the house or you sell it... This is false. While also being ordered to pay 250-500 per kid per month That is not a benefit of being a woman. You may be surprised to learn that CHILD support is for the child. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:35 PM
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Usually the sex and the quality of the relationship goes downhill from day one. Even if that was true, how does bad sex and a bad relationship benefit women? The woman is incentivized to divorce Not only is divorce not marriage, a woman is not "incentivized" to divorce since women are far more likely to end up in poverty post divorce than men. she gets to decide about the kids and gets half of everything plus alimony These are just red pill boogeymen that do not reflect reality. Men virtually al…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:29 PM
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That is incorrect. There are no benefits of marriage that exclusively benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:46 AM
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You haven't actually identified the negatives of marriage. As for benefits, there are tax benefits as well as spousal inheritance and privilege benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:42 AM
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I said social intelligence. Being able to read people and social situations without being explicitly told.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:43 PM
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Sure, if your goal is to deceive and control women, you can absolutely behave like a sociopath to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:38 PM
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Declaring the "legal aspect" of marriage to be bunk doesn't actually make it so. Marriage still has tangible benefits and many people appreciate the symbolism as well. Since it's now more socially acceptable not to get married, you don't have to partake if you don't want to. It seems like a pretty perfect system.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:59 PM
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Women don't only "date up," that's red pill cope nonsense. Women do, however, tend to greatly value social intelligence, which can make it challenging for many autistic men. I don't really have an answer for that one, but I will say if your goal is to just simply be with any woman, you're probably going to be unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:16 PM
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You don't self report on anonymous surveys because of the "dismissive view" that men are not significantly less likely to self report sexual assault and harassment compared to women? Like you're not self reporting to prove them wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:37 AM
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I'm going to need something to support the claim that men are significantly underreporting sexual assault/harassment in anonymous surveys compared to women. I'm not just taking your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:02 AM
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You're saying men don't report on surveys asking if they've been harassed? Is there anything to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:51 AM
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Self reported data still shows women experience significantly more sexual harassment and assault than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:42 AM
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Sorry, that doesn't answer the question of where I supposedly "heavily implied" that "men bad women good." Can you please show where this was heavily implied?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:11 PM
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I guess you missed the point of the post, but that's not surprising. Edit: Also "a short look" by which you mean scrolling through a hundred posts to find one I made three years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:39 PM
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Sure, point out where I heavily implied it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:38 PM
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That's because women are a lot more concerned with men's masculinity than men are concerned with women's femininity. The men on this sub would beg to differ. They won't shut the fuck up about women's femininity (indeed, this is one of the reasons they claim southeast Asia is superior for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:10 PM
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You'll have to point out where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:07 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty much /thread right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:49 AM
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I think this is what I love the most about "bluepilled" rhetoric. It comes from this place of white centric privilege and, due to such, is so beyond asinine, milquetoast and completely toothless its ability to criticise the worst of redpill philosophy "Blue pill isn't critical enough of red pill and also everything they say about red pill is wrong." What a take! In actuality, many women are deeply insecure about their femininity I never said women weren't insecure about femininity, I said men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:42 AM
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I'm sorry you had to deal with that growing up, that sounds awful. you may disagree with this, but i think masculinity is an oppressive force too. seeing a man eating 3000 calories of red meat per day and doing wild gym routines while juicing seems like quite similar disordered behavior to me as when i see my female friends eating nothing but iced coffee and cigarettes all day. I 100% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:52 AM
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Don't see anything about "men bad, women good." Maybe you should try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:49 AM
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So you believe anybody you put into a chemistry PhD program will graduate? You don't think that people who have a predilection for chemistry to begin with will be the ones who actually make it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:00 AM
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"This job requires a PhD in chemistry, so rather than look for a job that you're qualified for, you should just fake it and hope nobody notices. And if you don't get the job you're not qualified for (or you get fired when they realize you're faking it), it's the company's fault and also get testosterone regardless of what your doctor says."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:51 AM
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wait, can you see that you were spending time in spaces that promoted hyper-masculinity in men while on the other hand being in spaces that inhibited hyper-femininity in women? For sure, which is why it seems that insecurity over masculinity and femininity is much more prevalent among men. Ostensibly hyper feminine women rarely try to pigeonhole femininity while hyper masculine men can't stop talking about it. Even among progressive men's spaces like r/MensLib, questions like "what is masculinit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:18 PM
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You'll have to point out where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:59 PM
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Just my observation from spending years in women's/feminist spaces and men's/red pill spaces. I never meant to suggest it's never an issue for women, but it seems comparatively rare to men discussing what is masculinity, which is a daily occurrence in men's spaces. Admittedly, maybe I'm just not looking in the right places.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:58 PM
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Maslow's Hierarchy is not an immutable law of nature and the inclusion of sex in basic needs specifically has been criticized since people are completely capable of being fulfilled without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:45 PM
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Did you ever think that placing "getting laid" above "having your own identity" might be a key problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:39 PM
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Women are attracted to certain traits in men, Okay, so? Why are you basing your identity on what women find attractive instead of being who you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:35 PM
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Women reinforce what is masculine Nah, women are not Pavlov and men are not slobbering dogs. If you are basing your personality and identity on what women want to fuck, you're already in trouble. pill just informs you what they look out for. And yet red pillers are, by their own admission, chronically single and sexless. Maybe they're not as observant as they'd like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:05 PM
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Men in general are far less secure and much more concerned with their masculinity than women are with their femininity. Red pill plays on those fears and insists that this is what a REAL man is and if you're not that, that's bad. They rigidly define what exactly masculinity is so there is no ambiguity over whether you are a REAL man or not. It's further bolstered by the fact that feminism actively fights against rigid gender roles and gender norms, and if the feminazis are saying it, you know it…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:56 PM
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No, that's red pill nonsense. It's the result of a large group of misogynistic men not getting dates concluding that the problem must be with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:49 PM
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Then you've misread what I said and are trying to get me to argue something else. I quite clearly said women have sacrificed for family in a way that men have not been expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:35 PM
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I don't know what you're trying to say here It's pretty obvious, wars are not fought for family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:24 PM
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Women don't want to be caught either. That is incorrect. If you are finding that women do not want to be caught by a specific person, that is not a reflection of women but rather of that person. The fish doesn't know all the work that went into putting the bait out there. Of course not, it's a fish. It doesn't understand the concepts of bait, fishing, work, smartphones, airplanes, or the rotation of the Earth. Because it's a fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:14 PM
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Nah, you just don't get to use war as a catch all for men always have done more for family because, surprise, war is not done for family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:10 PM
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Only married men with kids fought in wars for their families? No single.men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:08 PM
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Have you ever looked at the mortality rates for turn of the century pregnant women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 02:06 PM
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Yep. The average woman has historically sacrificed far more than the average man for family and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:18 AM
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That's a terrible analogy. Fish don't talk, Fish don't want to be caught and actively struggle.against any attempt to do so If a fish popped out of the water and said "you're using the wrong bait," your response would.be "well what the hell would YOU know?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:34 AM
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Women have grown up watching previous generations of women suffer through bad marriages and relationships, frequently because they needed them to survive economically, ranging from physical and sexual abuse to simply being a chronically inconsiderate partner. They've seen their mothers and grandmothers sacrifice their lives, their careers, and their potential in service to their family to a degree that has never been expected of men, and if they're lucky they'll get a wonderful marriage out of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:30 AM
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You'll never see women chasing men no other women wants This is you, right? Now that you've been proven wrong suddenly it doesn't count? Also, I guess you missed all the other examples that are also inconvenient to your narrative, but shhhhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 02:01 PM
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Boy, you didn't actually watch the movie did you? 🤣😂 But it doesn't stop there, you can also watch Mask, Fantastic Four, The Shape of Water, Sin City, Boxballet, the Frog Prince, V for Vendetta, Shrek, Roxanne (and the original, Cyrano de Bergerac), Station Agent, and dozens more that I'm certainly forgetting. Meanwhile, the only reverse example I'm aware of is Shallow Hal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:54 PM
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You'll never see women chasing men no other women wants There is literally an entire subgenre of that, starting with "Beauty and the Beast."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:26 AM
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Again. Never said this. So then what is the abuse these men are suffering that is driving them to poor countries in SE Asia? Sounds like what I thought you said You don't have to "think" what I said because I explicitly said that. , and I still stand by the obvious fact that traveling to date And I still stand by that your attempts to conflate people who have dated overseas with passport bros are obviously disingenuous. This is the only functional definition of what a passport bro is. And the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:50 PM
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The way I've been treated in relationships. The way you've been treated in relationships is the reason passport bros almost exclusively target developing countries in Southeast Asia? I simply pointed out your claim that all international dating is driven by a 'race fetish.' That is clearly not true. I didn't say that. I said passport bros are clearly driven by race fetishism. You keep trying to motte and bailey passport bros with people who have dated overseas like maybe I won't notice what you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:40 PM
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Race fetishism and misogyny at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:28 PM
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That still doesn't make her dependent on his money or that he's funding her lifestyle. My wife makes twice what I do, yet she does not fund my lifestyle nor am I dependent on her. I can live quite comfortably on my income alone; I know because that's how I lived before I met her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:27 PM
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I never said this and there's nothing in my statement that even suggests it. Then pray tell, what abuse are you referring to? You can travel to date and date within the same race. Duh. Women do the same. That does not eliminate concern for other people. I didn't realize that traveling to date someone makes a man inherently misogynistic. You didn't because I didn't say that. I said passport bros are overwhelmingly misogynistic and racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:57 PM
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I didn't say unattractive guys are automatically deeply misogynistic. I said passport bros are overwhelmingly misogynistic and racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:15 PM
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Keep the discussion grounded in reality? This is just self projection at its finest. I don't think you have a clue what "projection" means because even if you were right about the point you're making, you're still not using it properly. Every blue piller I've come across believes that women are angels No, they just don't blame women for all of society's ills. But that is the typical red pill binary. If you don't believe all their bullshit, you must be arguing for the extreme opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:05 PM
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Uh no, not accepting red pill fantasies as fact is not "being stupid," it's keeping the discussion grounded in reality. It's fascinating how angry y'all get when people do that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:27 PM
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I’m fine with being a ‘just don’t want to be abused by western women anymore bro’ Women not dating men is not abuse. since I’m a man doing something that western women feel threatened by. Concern for poor women being exploited by misogynistic dudes with a race fetish is not the same as feeling threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:17 PM
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I mean, it's been quanitfied by dating data. Source? That discussion has been resoundindly won so I'm not going to revisit it. Yeah that's what red pillers always love to say until our even lightly scratch the surface and discover that all their foregone conclusions are actually totally made up (see also: 80/20 rule). Also, I think the red pillers' position is that it's difficult for women to get top-tier relationships, not just regular guys. And the goalposts move again. See, when I point out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 02:21 PM
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Are women in the west wrong to leverage their dating privilege for financial gain? This is just red pill nonsense, plain and simple. There is no such thing as "dating privilege," especially since red pillers themselves claim it is only easy for women to get sex, not relationships. Secondly, the belief that relationships are typically financial windfalls for women has no basis in reality. Don't gynocentric policies in the UK say (diverting women from prison; subsidizing women with men's tax; bias…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:37 PM
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The argument against passport bros is not that good relationships can never arise from relationships between people of different countries and cultures; clearly that happens all the time. The argument against passport bros specifically is that deeply misogynistic men advocate going to poor countries and try to leverage their wealth to much poorer women (even though they claim to despise women for doing the same at home), creating a situation ripe for abuse. There's also the clear belief in racis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:20 AM
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Women always know that they can get a guy to fund their life and the life of their children But that's not true. Most guys do not have the capability and, even if they did, they don't want to. Of all my guy friends, only two of them "fund" their wives' life and both are in the military with kids. Red pillers frequently complain about having to fund and provide for women, blue pillers are saying that's not even expected of them, Chads sure as shit aren't doing it, and the average guy isn't gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 03:48 AM
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No, your factual inaccuracies rendered you incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:12 AM
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Incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:43 PM
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Because you hear it over and over about how women get to a point where they leave a guy because ‘they just don’t feel it anymore’ and the feeling of not knowing why and not knowing what could’ve been prevented and not knowing what a man could do to improve hurts like nothing else in this world. Why is the assumption that a relationship ended over nitpicking definitions of masculinity and femininity? Why couldn't it just be that you weren't right for each other? Especially is she leaves you for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:56 PM
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Agonizing over what exactly is feminine or masculine has to be one of the most pointless yet exhausting dissections. Why does it matter what everyone calls masculine or feminine? Why can't it just be your personal definition that is only needed for your assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:01 PM
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Acting docile and submissive in front of women in order to not be "an aggressive dangerous man" What behavior are you imagining here? I don't think most people would call being normal, accepted public behavior as being "docile and submissive." Not talking about your sexual desires so that women think you are "good" Having sexual desires is not masculine since women also have sexual desires. If the question is why you're not supposed to express your sexual desires at will, that's because many peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:00 PM
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Because red pillers refuse to comprehend any distinction between "the most important thing" with "doesn't matter at all." Ripped men are generally regarded as more attractive. You do not have to be ripped to be considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:06 PM
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Well, at least on this subreddit, it's because most of these dudes are lonely and have been rejected by women (or they just assume they would be rejected by women), and rather than doing some introspection or rechanneling their energy to find purpose and meaning outside of sex, they have decided to get extremely bitter about it and buy into red pill nonsense like the 80/20 rule. So they see fat women, single moms, high body count women, etc. and they assume that these women are all easily gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:04 PM
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Yes. I am an average looking guy and I cleaned up on apps because I take good pictures, I'm good at differentiating myself in conversation from the hundred other dudes saying "hey", and I was always tweaking my profile to figure out what worked best. I'm terrible at approaching IRL because I hate small talk and I'm not good at striking up conversation when I know nothing about you. Dating apps aren't for everyone and that's OK. I just don't understand the need for so many people (especially dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:27 PM
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This is also why red pillers hate the body positivity movement so much. It has nothing to do with health or that men are somehow excluded (they aren't), it's that women are not only daring to exist while being unattractive to men, but they won't even feel bad about it! The horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:21 PM
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First dates? No The endless deluge of posts about this issue (and how feminists are supposedly hypocrites over it) suggests otherwise. Mandatory paternity testing? Yes And it's still dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:49 PM
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Equality is a core issue of men’s rights. No, it's not. Who pays for first dates and mandatory paternity testing are men's rights core issues. Oh, and also Zoe Quinn for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:05 PM
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When has "man spreading" ever been a central or even significant tenet of feminism? And of course, the issue was not "big tits in video games" but you knew that. However, the sole issue that men's rights have ever actually come together in real action on was when a woman made a video game, so maybe they shouldn't throw criticism around there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:39 PM
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Or they've got bigger fish to fry with things like abortion, sexual assault, workplace harassment, etc., just like I would imagine men's rights advocates would have bigger problems with men's mental health also the fact it's really not that hard to find women who will split the first date with you, but apparently they disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:22 PM
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for a few weeks whilst she brings him up to speed? Dudes on this sub: "I don't understand why women don't want to date virgins" Also dudes on this sub: "It only takes a few weeks to get good at sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:30 AM
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No, because feminism is not generally concerned with who pays for first dates. If you want to make this a core issue of men's rights, have at it, but I personally think things like men's mental health are bigger priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:20 AM
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Are those the same action movies where dudes shrug off getting shot and walk away from explosions and ramp cars into helicopters? Your concern for realism in action movies seems very selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:48 AM
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No, it's not, it just doesn't permit baseless criticism of women and feminism, i.e., you can't just bitch about women. It's rather telling how many dudes here see "can't make baseless criticisms of women" as being equivalent to "can't criticize women."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:52 AM
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The power to enact social change has always been predominantly held by white men. Saying "well some women liked things the way they were" is no different than saying "well some black people mind the slavery system." While that might be true, it is absurdly disingenuous to suggest that primary opposition didn't come from men (and in the case of slavery, white men).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:55 AM
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As an aside, when men do "band" together, they are frequently labeled misogynistic and/or incels No, when men believe they are entitled to sex and/or blame women for all of society's ills, then they are labeled misogynistic and/or incels. I've suggested before that men should try to join subs like r/MensLib but it always gets rejected because the sub explicitly states you can't just bitch about women. It's weird how often that happens though, isn't it? Like any time someone tries to put together…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:25 AM
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Are you really trying to argue that one successful woman makes all feminism a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:20 AM
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Request a paternity test if you're so concerned. Just quit saying everyone should have it done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:01 AM
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Why make it mandatory for both parents? If you're that worried about the baby being switched at birth, they could simply do the mother's DNA. No need to test both, right? Also hospitals avoid switching babies by putting a band on the baby's ankle when it's born, avoiding DNA testing altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:32 AM
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It's not, and you're more than welcome to request that. Just quit saying that everyone else should have to as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:28 AM
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You can do that testing with just the child alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:23 AM
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I am proposing investigating paternity, not infidelity. So? Your argument is it minimizes harm to children, so would GPS trackers to make sure men aren't cheating. A spouse (woman) can commit infidelity and the father still be the biological father of the child. Nobody argued otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:25 AM
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Yes, but you're only proposing investigating one spouse's infidelity. The comment you replied to said that it would only be fair to do the same to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:20 AM
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What is there to debate? If you want a paternity test, you can get one. You just have to deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:17 AM
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Are you saying infidelity doesn't affect the mental health of children?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:15 AM
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No, that's mandatory paternity tests you're thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:14 AM
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Now you're being purposely obtuse. No, I'm not, I'm just not going along with your analogy simply because you thought it up. She wanted promoted, No, she said she didn't just want sex anymore. That is not asking for a "promotion." She went with promote me or I quit. He said fine, quit. No, he said "if you're not going to fuck me, you need to leave." Also, you just torpedoed your own analogy since you tried to argue that there was no way OOP could have known if he didn't want a relationship, she …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:21 PM
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No, she said she wanted more than just sex now. That's what I said. Turning someone down for a promotion doesn't mean they're fired, they can get mad and quit ( just like here) but I'm not going to assume they quit if I don't promote them. Cool, what does that have to do with a person saying they want more than just sex? manipulation tactics I don't think you understand what manipulation is. Or tactics, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:09 PM
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No, it's perfectly possible to have casual sex with someone and still treat them with respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:25 PM
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Because she said she didn't just want sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:04 PM
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I didn't say it was a big deal, I said casual sex partners still deserve a modicum of courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:59 PM
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Man, I can't imagine why women would view that as dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:54 PM
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This is ripe for the typical red pill motte and bailey. The issue is not that he asked her to leave, it was how he asked her to leave. He could have very easily said, "I appreciate how you're feeling, but I'm not interested in anything more, so it's probably best if we end things." Instead, after listening to her how she's feeling dehumanized, he replied with, "so are we gonna fuck? Because if not you gotta leave." You can see this same red pill bullshit with: "feminists say you have to be attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:52 PM
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Girls turn guys down for sex 20 times a night when they're out sometimes. They don't have any obligation to be kind about it You don't understand the difference between someone you have a pre-existing sexual relationship with and some rando propositioning you? Those are the exact same situation in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:46 PM
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Lack of courtesy, however, does equate to an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:43 PM
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Lack of success with women and an ideology that blames women for their lack of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:26 PM
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Don't you realize that people have unattractive, overweight, low income, low status friends because they're still enjoyable people to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:20 PM
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No fap is just woo energy healing for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:16 PM
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We are in the most advanced age of masturbation that has ever existed. You deal with it by jerking off and having hobbies and a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:59 AM
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Uh, no, that's not what rape is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:34 AM
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Also why is OPs room mate messaging chicks who say they want serious relationships when he doesn't? I always enjoy these convoluted scenarios where dudes on this sub magically find out exactly what women are REALLY thinking and doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:33 AM
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Some women do, some don't. I don't know if it's "most" people, but it's certainly not uncommon. I've had a regular FWB while looking for something serious with other women. It's not about the people you're considering for something serious being inadequate for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:19 PM
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Married people consistently have more sex on average than any other relationship demographic. https://www.regain.us/advice/marriage/how-often-do-married-couples-have-sex-6-factors-that-affect-your-married-sex-life/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:54 AM
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The only accurate part is red pillers being way too preoccupied with how other people live their lives. Apart from that, no, this is a terrible comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:50 AM
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Okay, women find low self esteem very unattractive. Does your post still have a point without taking the most literal interpretation of what people say?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:47 AM
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Is the scientific method, evolutionary biology and sexual selection a grift? Red pill does not follow any legitimate scientific method and frequently abuses scientific findings by others to push their narrative. Actually, I’d argue it’s the bluepillers that can’t see the picture of reality because of their bias. Uh huh, and how many blue pill mass shooters have gone on rampages because of their view of reality again? Just a ballpark figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:12 PM
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Redpill is nothing more than seeing human nature for what it is Yes, this is what many grifts claim. No we don't, we just connect dots And yet they can't see the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:49 PM
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The red pill is a grift that claims to have the secret of how to date and then when it doesn't work out, it either claims you're not following true red pill ideology and/or blames women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:30 PM
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if you know its a dealbreaker for the other person and you sleep with them without telling them, that's immoral For sure. But if that's never communicated, then you can't blame the bi person for "hiding" it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:01 PM
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I don't think it's moral or immoral. It's just simply a fact that people often have sex before they are able to assess another person's personality well enough to determine whether they are safe to come out to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:40 PM
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That you frequently have already had sex with someone prior to determining whether it's safe to come out to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 08:34 PM
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It's not uncommon to have sex with someone prior to coming out to them when you're bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:52 PM
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Nah, if bisexuality is a dealbreaker for you, it's on you to bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:46 PM
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No response, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:41 PM
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Water is wet would you like me to source it? So you can't source it, got it. Just look at the amount of media sources that encourage females Female what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:34 PM
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r/menandfemales Also, source?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:30 PM
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r/whoosh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:16 PM
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I'm demonstrating the absurdity of OPs beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:10 PM
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Ladies, do you realize how much of your money men spend every year?? From which you need: food, a few outfits and shoes every year. Maybe a new purse. He needs: New truck, every two or three years, so the truck payments don't really ever stop. Don't forget the off road tires and lift kit, which does wonders for your fuel and insurance bill Steak, all the time. And not just cheap cuts like sirloin, we're talking ribeye and filet, plus wagyu at least once a year. The electronics. Lawdy the electro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:43 PM
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Your preferences are fine as long as you accept that your options will be limited as a result. The issue is when people set high hurdles and then get mad that people don't clear them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:43 AM
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If women are really hornier than men are then explain why women complain about receiving a dick pic where as a man wouldn’t complain about receiving a pussy pic While I think it's stupid to argue over who is hornier because who the fuck cares, this sort of comment is emblematic of the discussion of sex and arousal between genders. Instead of considering that perhaps women get aroused by different things and in different ways than men, you just assume they don't get as horny. Women are absolutely…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:30 PM
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Because laughing is enjoyable and we like people who make us feel good. I don't see any evidence that humor isn't appreciated by romantic partners in other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:59 PM
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Really? Because among all my friends and family girlfriends and wives don't just randomly accuse you of cheating for no reason. My wife and I don't even know each other's passwords. And I'm willing to bet if you posted for any dating advice, virtually nobody would agree that's normal or healthy behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:49 AM
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In reality in just about every relationship I've had there have been accusations of cheating coming from the women casually and frequently to get on your fainting couch about a man making the accusation suddenly acting like its crazy is dumb and not reality. I'm pretty sure exactly zero people would agree that that is a normal or healthy relationship. In reality gfs are CONSTANTLY implying and accusing their bfs of cheating. Its by no means a rare faux pas. Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:22 AM
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I mean I've been asking for probably close to two years for any actual evidence of the 80/20 rule, but none has materialized (a blog post's "experiment" notwithstanding). But somehow I'm the one arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:30 PM
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"I have no rebuttal so I won't respond at all but still pretend like I won."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:24 PM
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There are no statistics that prove women “fuck upwards” in terms of SMV when they engage in casual hook ups? I love how dudes here throw out shit like "sexual market value" like there's some stock ticker somewhere tracking everyone's value. But boy do they lose their shit when you point out that if you think you're a 5 but you can't get women who are 5s, then you're not a 5. Even women readily admit “it I’m just gonna have a casual hook up why wouldn’t I pick the hottest guy available?” TIL wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 11:01 PM
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Yeah except we don't, because there are no statistics to prove it (and in fact, statistics say the opposite).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:39 PM
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They're not convinced by statistical analysis, they only believe statistics that support their viewpoint and give explanations other than their own social shortcomings as to why they are single. Look how many men here believe the 80/20 rule to be as consistent as gravity despite the fact that actual statistics say it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:33 PM
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Except your terrible examples ignore that, unless women are secretly fucking tons of other women, every time a woman has sex, a man also has sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:29 PM
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It's amazing how red pillers sell this idea of men going against the grain and to hell with what the "gynocentric" society says but also need complete validation of every choice they make. You want a paternity test, you go right on ahead. Just deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:04 PM
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Also women typically do not get hysterectomies for the purposes of sterilization. OP is seriously misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:00 PM
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Yes, reading a room means reading individual people as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:17 PM
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The entire internet demonizes men approaching women in public. No, they don't. They criticize men who feel entitled to approach women at any time without regard to where they are or what is happening. You aren’t the end all be all on the actual opinion of women. I never claimed to be. I just think it's hilarious that dudes who, by their own admission, have little to no success with women claim to be authorities on what women think and want. Women don’t actually understand approaching someone and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:14 AM
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Sometimes she's not interested, sometimes she's got shit going on, sometimes she just doesn't like texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:38 AM
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And people keep telling them there are no specific instructions, yet they (and red pillers in general) keep acting like there's some secret code that's being kept from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:43 PM
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It's like they're trying to make a faux pax to ask a girl if she wants to grab a coffee. Where is this happening? I keep hearing this pearl clutching that this is the future feminists want, but when you actually talk to women, this is rarely, if ever, what they're concerned about. I've also seen a lot of people interpret women's refusal to give a comprehensive list of situations where it's okay to approach as being equivalent to "never approach ever," which isn't what's actually being said. As h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:17 PM
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Because you might be surprised to learn that fathers neglecting or abandoning children has a negative impact on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:54 PM
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It wasn't, it originally came from OKCupid by a bunch of dudes who didn't actually read what the information said, and then was later reinforced by a blog post that claimed to have run an "experiment" on Tinder that proved it. The 80/20 rule is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:32 AM
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Women tend to only get with the most sex-crazed aggressive men, because that's what they want Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:31 AM
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Not very. The people who claim status is the most important thing define being successful at dating as being able to walk into any bar and pick the woman you're going home with. If you want that, pretty much the only way is to be an extraordinarily famous celebrity. However, for the purposes of the average person dating, it's not that big of a deal. Can it help? Absolutely. But not having it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:29 AM
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"She was asking for it dressed like that."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:21 AM
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Mens forgiveness of certain traits (being overweight, dressing provocatively, high body count, etc) Perhaps your problem is believing that these are things that require forgiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:29 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7678782/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:14 PM
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Nope, that's why I asked you. And we're now 6 or 7 comments deep and you have still yet to back up your claim that I'm the one arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:52 PM
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No, I asked you. Can you show me what I misrepresented or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:46 PM
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What did I misrepresent?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:41 PM
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Please, point out what's in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:35 PM
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Considering women have been complaining about the same issues for several decades prior to the advent of social media (and, in some cases, for several centuries), this doesn't seem likely. Perhaps you should just try listening to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:12 PM
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It means you used an intentionally vague phrase and gave no clarification on what you actually meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:19 PM
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Since you've provided no definition of "sexually broken," there's nothing to really refute.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:47 PM
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And sexual function with a partner, which of course you knew what I was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:39 PM
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Sex toys are associated with improved sexual function. So much for that theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:32 PM
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Nah, it’s because average men can’t get sex with the same ease as the average woman *as long as she doesn't care whether she enjoys it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:20 PM
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It will impact options, but not in the way that many here believe, like she'll be branded and publicly scorned for life. Especially high profile OF creators may have the problems that high profile porn stars have (which are similar to those that high profile women in general have), but they're rarely going to end up dying as spinsters unless they choose to. That's part of the reason why dudes here try so hard to not only push the narrative that these women are forever tainted, but now they also …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:10 AM
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Citation needed on that one You need a citation that universal healthcare increases access to mental health services? You assume people on that sub are conservative - especially historically, MRA typea on the left often have left-wing ideals, Until it comes time to vote for a left wing woman, then they stay home (if they were ever going to vote in the first place) or else vote third party. but commit the sin of assuming they are morally equal to a woman, instead of inferior, and this makes them …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:49 AM
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You see it that way because they're told they can never blame women for their problem No, I see it that way because as soon as they reach a point where they can't just blame women (or even worse, find out women are on the same side as them), they lose interest. A perfect example is men's mental health. They complain and rail against men's mental health crisis, but very few support universal healthcare which would greatly increase men's access to men's mental health services. But if they supporte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 10:15 PM
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But, see, you really can't. By the way, I'm not just talking about the dudes here. I've spent plenty of time reading through r/MensRights, they only care about men's issues when they can blame women for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:27 PM
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This is the same tired point so many women on this subreddit and on the internet as a whole have made as a veiled way to justify their hatred for any attempt by men to unify towards solving important issues suffered exclusively by males Mental health and justice reform are not issues suffered exclusively by men, but thank you for confirming that MRAs are not interested unless they can throw it in women's faces. It's feminists who make it impossible for any real change to happen from their advoca…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:24 PM
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I was talking about your false statement that MRA’s don’t address these issues instead focus on asinine bullshit like not getting good dates. That's still not a strawman since, as demonstrated, MRAs aren't concerned with issues like little boys being raped (other than to bemoan it isn't taken seriously while ignoring that it is frequently men who aren't taking it seriously) when they could bitch about dating, Brie Larson, and a woman who receives child support having disposable income.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:16 PM
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So we're just ignoring the fact that there's nothing proving it's real, huh? And, brother, no it is not. The top comments are that it's a problem with family court and/or the ex should tell his lawyer. I also enjoy the stupidity that all these dudes believe that child support is paid out in hundreds and twenties in cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:09 PM
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Do you not realize that what you just described is literally what I said with different wording? You can't be this obtuse. I didn't rephrase their argument. In fact, I agreed it was a serious issue. Once again, you don't actually understand what a strawman is. First of all, you are intentionally twisting your wording I'm twisting my own words now? to make the sub look illegitimate and stupid I don't post or vote there, they seem to be able to make it illegitimate and stupid all on their own. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:45 PM
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Yeah I mean if your entire exposure to it is just sorting by top and scrolling down for a few minutes, I can see how you get this impression. It's not, it's just the data I can easily show. My years and years of reading and interacting with MRAs is not so quantifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:03 PM
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Female-perpetrated male rape is literally one of the most talked-about issues in the MRM. Their top posts say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:56 PM
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a fabrication of an argument based on your opponent's argument Not only is my argument not a fabrication, it's also not based on the opponent's argument. A strawman is a rephrasing of the original argument to make it easier to attack. So, no, you don't know what a strawman is. Which is exactly what you have done by claiming that men's rights advocates are somehow more concerned with paying for dinner and mandatory paternity testing than things that are far more discussed on actual men's rights s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:43 PM
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This is a very absurd strawman I don't think you understand what a strawman is. If you think men on this subreddit are men's rights activists then you're deluding yourself. Of course, the classic "they're not REAL men's rights advocates."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:25 PM
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The Canadian Children's Rights Council report below raises a number of issues including sentencing disparity between male and female perpetrators, victims not believed when they stated the abuser was a women, insufficient care and treatment of male victims. This sounds like an excellent issue for the Men's Rights movement, unfortunately they're too busy complaining about mandatory paternity testing and who pays for dinner on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:46 PM
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"I only accept the most stringent peer reviewed data except when it supports my beliefs then I'll take whatever."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:24 PM
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TIL Psychology Today is a crack pipe but only when it disagrees with red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 03:07 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-a-new-home/202301/men-are-more-selfishly-dishonest-than-women%3famp
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:32 PM
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TIL stating facts makes you a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:32 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-a-new-home/202301/men-are-more-selfishly-dishonest-than-women%3famp
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:31 PM
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Incorrect, men have been shown to lie more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:00 AM
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And as we all know, guys never misrepresent themselves on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:58 AM
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Yes it matters, but not in the way guys around here claim. You do not have to be rich to attract women. You do have to be financially stable and responsible. Many women will look for men in a similar socioeconomic bracket because they enjoy a level of lifestyle and want someone who can join them in that, but even this is pretty flexible (3 of my last 4 girlfriends, including my now wife, all made substantially more money than me). If you're gainfully employed and financially responsible, this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:11 AM
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Fish don't have hands. They can't handle nets or rods. They don't know what the water looks like from the surface. They don't know what bait is at the shop. These are all great examples of why it's a terrible analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:49 AM
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Wait till you read about the dudes who post here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:44 AM
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Lol ok. I can't stop laughing at a fish sticking it's head out of the water to tell dudes here what you're doing wrong and the dudes here telling them they're wrong while still not catching anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:35 AM
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This is such a weird saying that gets repeated. A) you don't ask the fish because fish don't speak and can't comprehend questions B) are you really telling me if a fish popped out of the water and said "you should try this" you would tell the fish they're wrong? C) why do guys here keep comparing dating to catching an animal that doesn't want to be caught and actively fights against it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:25 AM
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However, it seems that guys not giving the woman the time of day is the turn on for them, impossible the challenge being the turn on, if that red pill ideology is true of course. Red pill ideology is rarely, if ever true. Some women like the chase, just as some men do. Some women want what they can't have, just as some men do. It tends to be a more common thing when you're younger and most people grow out of it as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:39 PM
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Because people are writing their lives away in this sub. Saying stuff like this regularly makes no sense But it does make sense and you, yourself, acknowledged you understood it. Or how about this, use the vast vocabulary that we have to use the appropriate words. They did. You just wanted to derail the discussion by stating they weren't adhering to the dictionary definition of a word. Or maybe women stuff awful personalities who believe their shit doesn't stink and they're the "prize" so they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:36 PM
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Because you don't understand how nonsensical it sounds to the person hearing it. But it's not nonsensical, you admitted yourself you understood what they were talking about. Or maybe it's with the women who choose shitty men and blame "nice guys". Or maybe it's men with shitty personalities who have convinced themselves that they're nice guys that women don't want because of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:12 PM
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Then call it "playing nice" or whatever Why? They explained how they were using the terms and you understood the concept, there's no need to derail the discussion just so you can insist that technically there's no difference. But it's more than that. It allows women to choose the edgy guy that makes them tingle and when they get fucked in those relationships, they can justify their choices behind a facade of "but nice guys aren't really nice! That's why I chose the guy with edge cause he's real!…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:23 PM
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It's to distinguish between behaving nice and actually being nice. You can phrase it however you want, the concept is the same. Being pedantic about dictionary definitions doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:39 PM
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Not at all traditional. We're different races, we got married fairly old (I was 35, she was 34), my wife makes substantially more money than me, she kept her last name, we split finances (she covers proportionally more of the mortgage but we split utilities 50/50), we split housework but she does more since I work 5 days and she works 3, we split child care. There weren't many direct discussions about it apart from finances. We just do things and if one of us feels there's an imbalance, we talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:59 PM
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Is there any reason that you can see where someone can struggle with dating and it's not anyone's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:42 PM
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In fact, at this rate I think it’s pretty clear that a man’s assessment of another man is far more accurate and objective than a woman’s Value is an inherently subjective quantity, there is no objective measurement. And you're using value as an extremely nebulous term here. What value are we talking about? If you're talking about their dating "market" value, then their value is whatever the market will bear. Your friends can tell you you're a solid 5 all day long, but if you're not attracting 5s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:40 PM
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Bro, I'm an engineer, it is not relevant for either of us. Much like "multiple women who have been given boats," this belief that women are constantly trying to use you for your money is quite suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:39 PM
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Right?? The dudes who post here have the wildest friend circles. It's like how they all have female friends who discuss in detail every guy in their sexual past and their exact reasons for sleeping with the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:36 PM
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What guy? Pete Davidson? Women cluster around him because he's funny and charming, not because he has issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:04 PM
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You want proof that men make bad dating choices too? Is this a real question?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:00 PM
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Great, can you direct me to an open source version of this algorithm? I'd like to be a millionaire, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:01 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:59 AM
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I already explained that. You didn't though. You just said they figure it out without actually explaining how they could figure it out. All major apps use algorithms already. You understand that when people talk about algorithms, they're not all referring to the same thing, right? Like every app has a different algorithm, changing one does not mean every other app must (or even can) have the same change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:14 AM
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By showing and hiding your profile, didn't you read? When they show your profile to others, they need to make sure they don't show it to good matches, but they need to make sure they don't only show it to bad matches. How is that possible without finely tuned understanding of what every individual user is attracted to? Don't see what that has to do with anything. A competing grocery store can lower their prices too. A competing dating app can't replicate an equally successful algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:54 AM
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Who says they have to modulate attraction? How else will they stay in the sweet spot of hope and frustration? If a food retailer lowered their prices to pre-Covid levels, they would drive others out of business overnight Product prices are not proprietary intellectual property. Competing businesses cannot simply copy your algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:49 AM
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Because the medical facility has a duty of care and responsibility to perform their job correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:47 AM
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You seem to be confusing medical malpractice with paternity fraud. If the love you have for your child is contingent on them sharing your genes, then you don't actually love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:39 AM
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They want people to be in that sweet spot of the frustration/hope balance. They also know how frustrated and hopeful people have to be to pay. Right, but that requires a level of prediction that is laughably impossible, even with user data. Humans are demonstrably bad at even predicting what they, themselves, will like, so how can an algorithm written by people be so accurately calibrated that it can modulate the level of attraction? And there's also the fact that if it was that good, they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:38 AM
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I didn't say genes don't matter, I'm saying if your love is contingent upon them sharing your genes, then you don't actually love them. You don't think it's odd when these switches are discovered months and years later, the parents keep the baby they've had?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:29 AM
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No, just realistic. No such algorithm exists because if it did, it would instantly render every other dating app and service obsolete overnight, and there are people turning 18 every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:02 AM
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Victims are persuaded to part with huge amounts of time and money because of a lie. You're talking like a child is like an investment you were expecting a return from that you're now being denied. I'm always so intrigued by the situations that comments like this imply, like if your kid was 5 and you suddenly discovered they weren't yours, you would abandon them in seeking recompense for the time and money you spent raising them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:49 AM
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They don't want you to be happy. They want you looking for happiness. This is just the "dating apps purposely keep you single" argument repackaged. It's an absurd argument because it assumes a level of sophistication in the dating app that simply does not exist. Humans can't even figure out what makes a good match for themselves, but this conspiracy theory assumes that not only have these apps figured that out, but they've actually figured out who you will kinda like but not enough to stop datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:06 AM
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I'm super liberal and support feminism, but you think that's what I advertised or led with when I was dating? Of course not, that would never work. I got dates, girlfriends, my wife, and even casual sex despite being an average looking guy by having an appealing personality and conveying that to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:26 AM
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IMO, men who are crazy about football are walking red flags. Top comment: Essentially, having stuff you're passionate about is fine (and IMO a very human and good thing) but taking it too far to the point that you disregard everyone else around you is gross. It's most noticeable with football as it's by far the most common obsession for many men. Screaming/throwing things/etc. is behaviour you'd associate with a toddler, not a grown adult. Not quite to the extreme you've described, but I've seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:13 AM
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I just did, I got dozens and dozens of posts talking about women's sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:30 PM
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That's not how infatuation works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:53 AM
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It's no different, though. This is a very common experience for both men and women; the number of people you're able to attract doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:17 AM
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To the contrary it seems that whilst men can obviously become obsessed with a particular woman, they don’t suffer from the same tunnel vision and are still eyeing other women and being receptive to their advances. Men are just as susceptible to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:59 AM
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You didn't know the word partner before now? If you want to make an issue out of literally nothing, you do you. Seems like a dumb thing to get mad about though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:28 PM
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For clarification the Virus doesn’t kill adult males, it kills male embryos. And the virus is carried maternally. To clarify further, it kills embryos of certain species of insects, not humans. A more pressing issue is what if its intentional? A lot of the comments on the article seems to have the sentiment of weaponizing it on humans, seeing men as worthless violent lockjawed morons. And in my previous post we are already slowly seeing the birth of males fall due to effects of pollution and oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 04:05 PM
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Or people can just use the term "partner" and stop flipping shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:26 PM
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Bullshit. A) when you say "women being honest" what you actually mean is "women agreeing with red pill talking points," which of course women aren't going to spread because they're bullshit. B) men have been killing women for perceived slights for a lot longer than dating advice has been around, so you've got your cause and effect backwards, bud. C) if dudes here have egos so fragile that they can't handle the fact women won't parrot red pill nonsense without getting aggressive, then they have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:07 AM
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Nope. But that is the narrative dudes here keep pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:59 AM
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Cause people would call her shallow, a goldigger, heightist etc if they said the truth. Then why would they deny saying that you just have to be nice? See how this doesn't make any sense? I will add that us men have a thicker skin The number of women killed for rejecting men vs. the reverse would suggest otherwise. We'll generally deal with the roasting and don't care. There are dudes in here every day demanding acceptance of their dating preferences. Again, your beliefs do not seem to reflect r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:13 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/pEHbsfjTky
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:33 AM
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There's an OP in another thread literally saying this exact thing right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:14 AM
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Cause they know deep down it isn't true and just went for a canned response to create the least amount of conflict Why would there be conflict? You believe that women are orchestrating this Machiavellian scheme to give men bad dating advice because...why, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:10 AM
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Cause who owns up to anything? Why would they need to "own up?" This is advice they've given. Why would someone need to lie about advice they give?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:01 AM
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Obviously no woman is actually going to own up to that. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:49 PM
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I wonder if they think if they keep asking the question, women will accidentally blurt out that it's because they're all sleeping with the same 20% of men and using their husband for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:46 PM
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However, they are told since birth that if they are just nice a woman will fancy him. Dudes here make this claim all the time, yet there is no reflection of this in reality. I even made a post asking women if they had ever given advice that supposedly women give all the time such as "just be nice," and nobody has ever given it. Being nice is the baseline of belonging to polite society. It does not and never has guaranteed success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:12 PM
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So that could be a perception vs reality problem. That goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 11:08 PM
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I didn't say you said it was, I said women frequently say it is. Was your goal just to create a scenario where a woman is being unreasonable and use that claim women in general are trying to make men adhere to their terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:23 PM
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husband speaks with wife about lack of intimacy. He is told she is exhausted and needs more help around the house (choreplay) -husband helps more. Except when you talk to women, it often doesn't make it to step 2. If the help increases at all, it's usually for a few days at most and frequently stops as soon as it doesn't result in instant sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:14 PM
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Continue to avoid the argument, I'm not avoiding the argument, my comment is still up there as I originally wrote it. I'm just not catering to your demands because you jumped in without even knowing what was being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:41 PM
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it was vague and nonsensical No, it was pretty clear. And yet you still jumped into the thread despite the fact you didn't understand what was being discussed. Thank you for cherry picking That's not cherry picking, that's just pointing out that you responded without understanding what was being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 02:40 PM
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Before it was no sex before marriage now with tinder, Man I hate to break it to you, but people have been fucking before marriage since...forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:53 AM
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Think what? You just jumped in to reply without even reading what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:12 AM
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Because it is, and men are entitled to express how they feel just like these women do. I didn't ask if they were allowed, I asked why they think that. If they best defense is "It's not illegal!" then that says enough. What a bizarre response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:07 AM
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The why did you say No to me saying guys were treated like that. If they aren't mutually exclusive, For the same reason we distinguish guys being creepy from rapists. If you're going to treat them as indistinguishable, then expect the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:42 AM
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They aren't, just like acting creepy and being a rapist aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:08 AM
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Being creepy and wanting to be left alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:16 AM
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No, they treat a guy like they want him to leave them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 12:02 AM
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Your lexicographical My compilation of dictionaries and thesauruses?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:43 PM
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Or, you know, because it's hurtful and has social/reputational consequences. And as soon as you figure out those are, you be sure to let me know. Did we forget why slut shaming is supposed to be bad? Apparently you did. It's bad because you're judging people for consensual activity that men engage in as well, while wishing they could do it more, and because women deemed "sluts" are blamed for all sorts of things like being murdered or raped. Criticising somebody's behaviour and character to sham…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 07:29 PM
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Why do guys here act like a women feeling uncomfortable or finding a dude creepy is some unforgivable crime? Apparently you can't read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 06:17 PM
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No, I'm well aware of what the post says. Did you read my comment? You seem lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:36 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 05:25 PM
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