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CMVSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:02 AM
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Question For MenSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:30 PM
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discussionSpeaker7/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 02:52 PM
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Speaker7/r/MGTOW19/04/20 02:15 AM
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CMVSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:50 AM
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Speaker7/r/MGTOW27/02/20 10:56 PM
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Question For WomenSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:58 PM
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Question For WomenSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:18 AM
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ScienceSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:52 PM
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DiscussionSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:04 PM
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CMVSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 06:51 AM
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CMVSpeaker7/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:24 AM
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A dual mating strategy was the best adaptation in an environment of non-stop violence and scarcity of resources. We don't live in the environment we adapted to anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:59 AM
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Risk Assessment: Him: 18 years of child support Her: 6months in jail Gee, I can't imagine why more women don't try. Bring your own condoms gentlemen, and ruthlessly guard them like the next 18 years of your life depend on it.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 10:21 PM
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Do people really have a specific wish for a son or daughter? I always just assumed until they find out at an appointment everyone is just happy to have the baby, the sex just being bonus information.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 11:53 AM
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Evolution provided them with a dual mating strategy, concealed estrus, and a cuckolding instinct to increase the chances that the best genes will proliferate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:09 AM
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Men are raped in wars all the time, children too. Women don't hold a monopoly on rape and suffering. If we are equals under the law, then let us be equals. If men must fight, so too should women.
/r/MensRights26/02/22 05:34 AM
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Because when men are sexually attracted to women we want to have sex immediately. Unimpeded by anything else, that would be our ideal outcome. Men don't make a distinction between making a woman wait to have sex, because there is no ideal wait, it's to have sex now. A man with a short term relationship in mind wants sex with that woman now and a man with a long term relationship wants sex with that woman now as well as many times well into the future. Lying in general is bad. No one should be ly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:29 AM
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Their way of rating is unintuitive and frankly dumb. No one considers the actual lot of humans in the world and places them in anything other than a uniform distribution like you. "Yo look at that chick! She's a solid 9" "Akshually she's more like 8th percentile with a standard deviation of 3!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:24 AM
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Is that some gaussian distribution based on an actual population of judged individuals? When most people judged a person 1-10, it's usually with 1 being the theoretically ugliest person they can imagine and a 10 being the most attractive but no one rating matching any one person. Why the unintuitive scale there?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:21 AM
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He leans heavily into a Jungian worldview especially concerning unconscious processes which I love. It sounds goofy to people that don't connect with it but it really shows how we're simultaneously acting out our own desires, and functions, of our wills, and seemingly the desires of these shadow elements of our animal nature. I haven't seen that particular video but he delves into it more in various taped lectures on youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:40 AM
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This ties into the RP idea that men lack intrinsic value and must become something to be cared about. Not good enough for her? Become better. Became good enough? Yay, you did it. You have value now and you have your girl. Don't become something? You didn't lose anything, you just didn't get anywhere either. It can build up over the years for men that deeply care about it. Women validate men as they are the biological filter for the species. Didn't make it through any filters? You're a dead end. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:12 AM
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Not every man understand women place men into these categories when making their approach. Not every man understands you are either a romantic interest OR a friend interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:07 AM
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Pretty sure you can petition the Reddit Admins to become moderator of an unused subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:17 PM
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Wish there was a requirement that subs deemed undesirable had to directly pay for the servers to maintain access to their site. Reddit could vote and deem _____ topic unacceptable for mainstream thought but still allow it to exist if its supporters pay for it. Failure to pay would mean the sub closes down. No censorship needed, everything that isn't patently illegal to say out loud is allowed, and reddit gets more money. Wrongthink communities would be opt-in-only. Win win win?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 07:12 PM
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They have an actual abundance of options. There's always another willing dude just waiting around the corner? The cost of bailing is non-existent. Sure, they may have just passed on their dream dude because of some frivolous reason, but that doesn't matter, new guy is waiting. Their options increase but the quality of those options goes down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:25 PM
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Sounds like satire subs. "This is for giving dating advice, wrong answers only though."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:17 PM
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There's guys you date, and guys you marry. You're the guy you marry, and I just don't want that right now. Savage. That's a nice redpill to get you started as a young man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/22 06:02 AM
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I know what you mean. The reality is that you can have feelings all you want, and even express them, but not without consequences. You will pay for it. It's a shit deal for men.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 10:14 AM
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I'm just waiting for Atlas to burst through the wall like the Cool Aid man saying "Haven't any of you all heard of the sexual revolution?".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:09 PM
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If the internet is to be believed Swedish women are the most offensively feminist to the modern man. So much so that they prefer importing wives from SEA over marry natives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:14 AM
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Ask the fishermen how to catch fish, don't ask the fish how they like to be caught. That's got to be RP101.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:06 AM
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I actually yelled aloud "LOST?! you threw him out the fucking door!" I can't stand the passive agency-lacking tone people like her speak with.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/01/22 04:40 PM
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More.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:22 PM
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People want the pleasant lie over the harsh truth 99% of the time. It's annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 12:19 PM
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The world doesn't exist as a binary. It's far too simple and inelegant to just read the TRP sidebar, conclude men are fucked, and give up and die. The entire point of TRP is to understand reality as it is, accept it completely and then decide how you'd like to proceed. If it was hopeless, there wouldn't be thousand page screeds by terpers on techniques, tips, and endless theorizing about human nature. Nothing stopping you from seeing an escort, get to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 07:25 AM
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what do you care if women bitch about how sex is bad? Uh, because men care about their partners? No one wants to be fucking someone that isn't enjoying it and isn't communicating that. women are NEVER GOING TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY LIKE MEN. period. They are, and they already do. Not in a general sense like men but in specific situations where vagueness will harm them they do. there is both no benefit to them to do this and there is DANGER in doing this. The benefit is the cards are on the table …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:19 PM
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I like you. Very well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:28 PM
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Sure, and that would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:24 PM
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It's bad to be fetishized because you're not seen as a person, you're just an object that they find particularly arousing. Replace you with another person with the same property they like and you're immediately forgotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:23 PM
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If he asked her "what would you do if I wanted to kill myself?" and her response was anything but empathy and a desire to help him in any way possible, he'd be correct to never contact her again. You cannot fix someone that deep in hateful ideology, they will always rationalize their terrible beliefs.
/r/MensRights26/11/21 06:26 AM
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I choose to believe, thanks haha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:28 AM
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That thing lies, it said I was 73%. I've been told outright that I am ugly. At least my mom thinks I'm handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:55 PM
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Ok, not meaning to pry or be the FWB police lol. Very sensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:38 PM
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Your FWB isn't allowed to have sex with other people? I thought FWB means no strings attached and implicit non-exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:24 PM
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Same. There's a huge overlap between right-wing and TRP online, but it's not absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:11 PM
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She was playing to her audience like all celebrities? Male bashing is a woman-bonding FSM moment as old as time itself. The touch about being useful is just icing on the cake. It's not okay and you don't have to tolerate it. Call it out when you see it, but be ready for everyone to hate you and diminish it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:08 PM
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I think not understand this is a good portion of the red pill rage for normie men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:28 PM
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She's an enigma of nature. Like the inverse Tom Bombadil of the PPD Mythos. There are sightings here and there, lots of grainy footage but no one has ever captured a complete image. There's audio though of an alleged Atlas sighting rambling about foreigners, and calling lesser beings r-worded. Say her name 3 times in the mirror, if you smell ganja and brimstone, she is near...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:57 AM
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It honestly is. Commitment-free sex and zero social responsibility for women. I hope we never go back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:33 AM
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Thanks mom, I still love you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:23 PM
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Yes. Would you want to be hungry and unable to eat? Thirsty but can't drink? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 06:00 AM
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That's good. No point if either person is uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:49 AM
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You can't put a number or time on it. You're either comfortable and both feeling it, or you're not. If you try and force it to happen or have some rigid rule on how you expect a partner to behave, you may never reach that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:30 AM
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As a man that has never had a girlfriend, been kissed, and is still a virgin, I have serious doubts if I still desire any human relationship platonic or romantic It sounds like you really want a relationship. I had a very sheltered adolescence and I missed out on a lot. Things part of me still wants to experience, but given my age, it would be vastly inferior to the experience I would have gotten at 19. That's fine, not everyone gets to enjoy the same parts of life as everyone else. Teenage roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:25 AM
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Yours is deadpan pessimism!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:05 PM
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Based take.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 01:06 AM
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In a committed LTR I think both people should be spoiling each other constantly! It's just another way you can express mutual love/affection and bond. If just one person expects endless spoil and adulation while giving nothing in return, then no, that's entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:51 PM
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Yep easily. Then after finally climbing that mountain and realizing how overhyped it is, I still felt like I was missing out when unable to find a partner. But then I realized idgaf, my genes don't care about me, so I don't care about them. Everything is random and arbitrary and there's no point in being bitter about it. It's a rigged game. All to easy to fall into blackpill nihilism if you really want to, but I wouldn't blame you. Better to just let it go and slowly stop caring about it, and an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 09:19 PM
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The concepts aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:12 PM
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I don't think men get alpha widowed in the same way women do. That is, they pine for a long-lost partner that no other can ever compare to and as a result become unable to bond with another person. I think the male version of being alpha-widowed is basically having oneitis. Single blue-pilled men building up a fantasy of a life with an actual women they've never spoken to, despite her being real, to which no real woman even the actual woman herself could ever live up to. Women project backwards …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:12 PM
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The imperative is to have sex. The reward for successfully doing so is an orgasm. Having an orgasm outside of sex still feels great, but it's not what is motivating men to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:48 PM
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You're thinking like a modern human informed by science with the ability of hindsight. The reward for the risk is orgasm. That's it. Again, the imperative is to have unlimited amounts of sex. Children or STD's and even being devoured after the act like praying mantis are not even in the backseat of this hypothetical man's mind. The sole biological reason for your existence is to eat, sleep, breathe, and try to fuck. Everything else, is background noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:38 PM
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What doesn't make sense about it? The instinct is to have as much sex as humanly possible and then move on immediately after. You (this hypothetical Chad caveman) don't care what happens after. You don't care if she's infertile even. To the male lizard brain, doesn't matter, had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:27 PM
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Yes that's commonly stated as being the Male Sexual Imperative. It's our instinct uninformed by anything other than biology. Luckily, our wants and desires are shaped by things other than instinct. Biology is the single greatest influencer on our behavior, as it sets the initial conditions, but it doesn't have the final word in what we'll do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:21 PM
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You absolutely must be very direct and polite. That's it. You're going to be tempted to talk and explain, and bend, and agree. But don't, you're just making it harder on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:26 PM
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Do you consent to making coitus with me in the present moment?....may I thrust? .....may I thrust again?.....and again? Please confirm
/r/MensRights21/10/21 02:39 AM
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Not for like 50 years my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:45 PM
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I don't much care for her either.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 09:20 PM
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That's so weird, I didn't realize I was responsible for the actions of someone else, especially because they're the same gender. Oh wait, I'm not, because that would be insane.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 10:49 AM
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It's instinct. It must be consciously overridden as it no longer serves its purpose. Saving women and girls from early death was more important when humans were simple hunter gatherers. The loss of a single woman could easily signal the downfall of that group/tribe. Men are disposable cannon fodder as far as biology is concerned, so having the worthless save the worthwhile is just icing on the cake. No man today, living in a city, should die for some random woman or kid, unless it's his personal…
/r/MensRights10/10/21 09:52 PM
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Oof. Good observations! I understand their desire to just want to sit there and have their suitors just keep popping up and offering interest while they get to play judge and jury. Some would call it a privilege. It's when they want to be pursued but complain that their offers aren't great enough while also adamantly refusing to pursue people they actually find attractive. Can't have it both ways lol. edit: a typo
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/21 09:47 PM
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Hypergamy isn't necessarily bad. From the woman's perspective it's a means to getting more bang for her buck. If she can get a better man than she currently has then it means (to her lizard brain) she's undershot her own market value. To her, she belongs with the better man, if she can attract him. The point at which she can no longer trade up is the point where she's found her market value and should be happy. The reality of hypergamy is that if you constantly are looking for an upgrade to your…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:18 PM
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This made me think of that marshmallow test given to children. Where a researcher will put a single marshmallow on a table and tell the child they can eat that one right now, OR, they can wait 5min and the researcher will give them another, just for waiting, and they get two marshmallows total. The outcome the child chooses is wildly predictive of their life outcomes. We need a test on tinder if your date has passed the marshmallow test LOL. You can have the hot sexy guy now (that gives no roman…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/21 03:15 AM
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You're not wrong. The common retort from women is that they aren't "rewarding" men for anything. Which is true, they're not using operant conditioning to train men to gain a desired outcome, not consciously anyway. Men too would say they don't feel rewarded either! No dude will conciously think "I'm a douchebag, and I get tons of sex for it!" Yet all the evidence is there, laid out for all to see. Women choose shit men, shit men continue to act like shit men do, and they have more sex because of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/21 03:10 AM
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I don't understand the question, but I'd let you peg me /u/Mrs_Drgree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 02:51 AM
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Men will always be valued for how much pull they have with women. Nothing will ever change that. Sex bots will hopefully allow seemingly unattractive men to feel a sense of connection and fulfillment outside of women while still satisfying their sexual and emotional needs. I think it's unwise to want a sexbot to basically be a woman that can't say no, what would be the point? Maybe they can be something else entirely. All they have to do is trigger the extremely primitive sexual response in men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:10 PM
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The only winners are the people that never showed up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:30 PM
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Female hypoagency. She knows she can't or won't take responsibility for her erratic thoughts/actions and like all things female wants to push the hardship onto her man. So man up! You want to be a Real Man(tm) don't you? Serve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:29 PM
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/u/PickleLine this is purge week, you're supposed to post something outlandish that you'd never be willing to say during a normal week!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:42 PM
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Swanposting during purge week, this gon be gud!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:49 PM
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100% hard agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:10 AM
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RIP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:05 PM
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Very good distinction!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 01:56 AM
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There are other more rational minded, less egotistical, and less angsty people to learn from.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:43 AM
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Men's Issues will be taken seriously when they can be conclusively shown to be harming women. Meaning, if you can show that ignoring Men's Issue X/Y/Z which causes harm to men also significantly causes harm to women, you might have a chance. Women dominate the public social narrative, and unless every male issue is reframed in a light that makes women the ultimate end-victim, nothing will change for men. Men as a group (outside of ourselves here) do no advocate for MEN the group, only at best th…
/r/MensRights20/09/21 03:07 AM
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If only a small percentage of all men do it, then yeah it'll make you more physically attractive (assuming that's your only problem). But if a significant portion of men turn to it then the net gain will be zero. All men would now be objectively better than they were pre-surgery but they would now be only relatively as attractive to women as they were before due to women's only finding a small portion of all men attractive, no matter how "objectively" attractive they are. If all men turned into …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:44 AM
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To shake my fist at the sky while mumbling incoherently to myself, and yell at kids to stay off the fucking lawn! All while drinking beer, in a rocking chair, on the front porch. With a big ole' Maine Coon on the lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:24 AM
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Love is just another feeling. Is it worth it? Sure, all feelings are worth it, for a time. Is it some deep intimate force throughout the universe that houses special meaning aside from any other emotions? Nope. Enjoy it for what it is, but like all emotions, it will change with time, and recede. Don't look to it for lasting comfort, just as you wouldn't expect to be "happy" all the time. ...and no, no one hurt me, but thanks for asking lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:20 AM
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Yes I am okay with it. If I'm allowed to do something, she's allowed to do the same, or equivalent. I would expect the same consideration from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 10:05 PM
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Eh, people are free to feel as they do. It doesn't have to be rational or fair. Men that stay mad at "female nature" are just hurting themselves. Nature doesn't care, so neither should you. What I do think men are completely valid in being angry about is being misled either through ignorance or outright deception for the vast majority of their upbringing about "how women are" and seeing how incorrect it was. Women reinforce their "goodly nature" as if it's an internalized global marketing campai…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 08:59 PM
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Maybe he finally listened and just showered his personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 04:11 AM
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Being a man is the best thing in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:04 AM
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Don't just stop at the financial cost. There's the mental toll, the emotional toll, the spiritual toll (if you see enough shitty female behavior lol). Do it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:01 AM
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She was 100% fishing for a foodie call. Tell my man in the most appropriate way what's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 04:00 AM
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Nah this one is easy, you start screaming for help the moment you notice something is an emergency, and continue screaming for help as you rush in to pull their head above water. No one can accuse someone of molesting a child in public that is actively trying to draw attention to it. Granted you have zero obligation to do anything but that's what I would do so I could sleep at night peacefully.
/r/MensRights12/09/21 12:36 AM
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Because tools and implements aren't supposed to feel anything. They're supposed to be useful when needed and have a long service life where they can be disposed once no longer able to perform their function. You're not a person to them, you're a tool. Welcome to being male. Patriarchy meetings are on the first of the month. Grab a misogyny handbook on your way out.
/r/MensRights11/09/21 06:29 PM
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Because stopping porn controls men, and stopping using their smartphone does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:03 PM
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"I'm attracted to men and I don't want to be. The end." EDIT: This is exactly like those MGTOW posts saying "Sell me on marriage! hurr hurr". Equally pointless because you've made up your mind already and now just want validation. MGTOW is bae btw. WGTOW too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:05 AM
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It was cute when I was a teenager but I'm too old to put up with any bullshit in adults. Clumsy? Uh okay, be careful I guess. Irresponsible? Nope, next. Picking up after them? Nope Always losing things? Nope, get your shit together. Poor memory? Nope, write things down. Is this a Disney movie where faults are presented as feminine wiles? Great for a movie, horrendous in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 04:04 AM
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Attraction thresholds are requirements though. Men must meet several thresholds to some degree as determined by that particular woman's needs/desires. All women just need to meet one requirement (physical attraction) to be sexually desirable. It's not a positive for men to need to fit more checkboxes, it makes it harder, not easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:48 PM
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She feels violated because he robbed her of the opportunity to lie about it or to scheme and plan a way to slip it into a conversation that she "only did it once", or that she "needed the money" knowing full well that many men would feel the same way about women that commoditize their sexuality to anyone with a dollar in their pocket. This is the type of woman that will never understand that male love is possessive, and if you're sharing your most intimate self with literally anyone, and even fo…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/21 09:36 PM
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Yeah if those emotions are the ones women want to see, when they want to see them, and not too intensely. Otherwise no. Not by a long shot. Many men have fallen into the trap of sharing their inner emotional world with their woman only for it to utterly destroy that woman's attraction to them. Fool us once....shame on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 02:41 PM
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While I understand the intent behind the "If men could get pregnant" argument, it just feels dumb. It's entirely speculative what would happen if anything. Who is one to argue that men would do what women think if men could get pregnant. Maybe they'd behave entirely different, because you know, men aren't the same thing as women. Shocker. edit: a typo
/r/MensRights03/09/21 10:28 AM
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She looks like the Buddha to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:13 AM
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That's great except with rising sexlessness among men, exactly how will denying men the sex they're already not having be any sort of punishment for not supporting women? The men women are already fucking en-masse are already in favor of abortion because they can abscond from having to pay child support for their otherwise numerous offspring. Sex strike is ineffective, and frankly childish. It really shows where women (in favor of sex strikes) derive their sense of power and agency from. Of all …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:10 AM
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I suppose I should have already read that before opening my mouth, thanks for the link.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 06:20 AM
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What is the point of shutting the sub down every time some group of ideological censors decide they want to spam? Why allow them to dictate when the sub is online or offline. Won't you just encourage them to decide to brigade when they want the sub offline? Denial-of-Service so to speak.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/08/21 03:37 AM
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Conflating MGTOW with incels is just bad faith. Do your due diligence and at least make an attempt to know something about it. MGTOW walk away from marriage and cohabitation with women. Incels desperately desire female validation and attention. The two are polar opposites in their desired outcome. I understand if mods want to avoid anything MGTOW as if the mere word is like whispering Voldemort's name aloud. But don't conflate. There are many MGTOW that are mens rights activists, and you do a se…
/r/MensRights18/08/21 03:31 AM
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Would it be accurate to say this is a feminist sub then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/21 03:14 AM
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Excellent! I am glad to see there is common ground on the notion of "gender essentialism" such as it is. I do find it useful as a framework to orient ourselves when comparing the experiences of men and women. While I cannot say your path is the right one for me I wish you the best and hope it works out for you! I seek the best outcome for all, men and women. If marriage is your path, so be it. The best of luck to you and your spouse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 04:29 PM
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Agreed. I cannot say what MGTOW advocates for as a group outside of no marriage, and no cohabitation. Those are the core tennets and anything beyond is down to the individual man espousing his beliefs. I do not see women as a risk but the state itself, vying on behalf of the welfare of women at my expense. Women are simply women. They are wonderful in their own right. If you have no close personal connections with women I feel sad for you, for you are surely missing out. However, I would be remi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 04:01 PM
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If this is the opinion of the majority then I, and like minded individuals will fit in well here. I too am against misogyny, misandry and rigid gender essentialism. Although to be honest I do believe a certain degree of gender essentialism to be true but that's not important. Marriage is indeed a heavy personal decision and I agree the disdain for it is entirely valid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/21 03:26 PM
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Anything critical of women is considered verboten. You cannot have any discussion of women that portrays them in a negative light as a group or you will be mischaracterized as a woman hater or some other such socially undesirable. edit: There are a ton of men that genuinely hate women and they should be disparaged for this hatred. There are also many men that are critical of women. These two groups should not be confused. You can be critical of women and their behavior/beliefs as much as anythin…
/r/MensRights17/08/21 02:24 PM
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A man has no value in today's world. Men are one of the most valuable resources on the planet. He is not a sexual entity and he cannot provide anything that a woman cannot provide for herself. Every human being is a sexual entity. Also, just because you can do something yourself doesn't render it useless as an attractant to the opposite sex. I can cook for myself, but having someone else cook for me means so much more. "Men going their own way" is a reactionary movement but in actuality its wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:18 PM
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Yeah that's him. It's a videogame character Kirby. Swan is a bit edgy. It's hard to pinpoint where his actual beliefs lay. Either way yeah. The discord is a fun place and the mods there do a good job of enforcing people stay on the channel's topic. If you venture into #Blackpill just know it's a cesspool of whining nihilists. Feel free to report anyone that breaks discord's ToS though. There is a lot of good discussion to be had in the more serious channels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:20 AM
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This has got to be Swan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:02 AM
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Very reasonable take! If you are not satisfied with your partners performance then the onus is on you to communicate directly what you would like done differently to maximize your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 11:30 PM
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The man has a better understanding of how women's sexuality works from an external perspective because his sample size is 6. The woman has a better understanding of how women's sexuality works from an internal perspective because she's female. They're entirely different experiences though. Apples to oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:35 AM
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The vast majority of women think just about anything they do should never effect their ability to choose a simp on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:00 PM
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Bruh why the fuck do you want someone that doesn't want you? Go for the girl that says yes, not the one you need to jump through hoops to convince her to give you an audience. Just Give Me A Chance Baby is no way to live lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 09:10 AM
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Them "Lying Flat" seems more to do with not wanting to wageslave for an obviously shitty future that doesn't care about them. I wonder how many of them see western style MGTOW. CCP won't care about men dropping out just like western nations don't give a fuck. There's always another schlub waiting to take your spot and provide for a wife and wageslave for the state. Good luck to em!
/r/MGTOW26/06/21 11:23 PM
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Castrating men would do nothing to stop sexual assaults though. Under feminist theory sexual assaults have nothing to do with sex and are just a way for men to show power over women. So sex drive or not, men would still be assaulting people if their theory is true. In reality it would just mean men still sexually assault people but can no longer get them pregnant either. So that's a plus? It also does nothing to protect men from predatory women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:30 AM
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Women have much higher standards for themselves than men do. They also feel disgust much more frequently, and deeply. Men have always been the same. What you see now has always been there only social media allows you to see it. Women expecting men to basically be just like them + a dash of testosterone are in for a world of disappointment. Combine all of that with the innate fear/dislike of men in general that's championed so much and voila. Men and Women are so glaringly different that it's ast…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:53 PM
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Men should stop simping. Entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:09 PM
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I think assertiveness and just mental endurance. Men and women embody these traits very differently and I like the way women do it. For men, everything we do has this subtle undertone of violence, like it's just waiting on a moments notice to burst forth. So expressing assertiveness is almost a threat of "I won't back down, because I can reinforce it with brute strength". Women don't really have that intimidation factor so when they're assertive (which many women seriously lack) it's just this u…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:37 PM
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I love that there is even a distinction needing to be made there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 07:26 PM
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Just how neurotic so many women are and how to navigate it effectively irl based on things said here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 07:26 PM
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Physical: She's about 0.5ft tall. Hourglass frame. Wears a Tshirt with a graphic on it. Hates pants. Curvy af. Lifestyle: She stands around waiting for me to do something with her. Has no real interest of her own. Doesn't really exist for any purpose except my end use of her. Professionally: Everyone loves her. All the guys love her, and she has a wicked effect on them. Totally intoxicating if you're around her for long. She makes it hard to get work done though. Personality She's very fluid. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:28 PM
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"Women unhappy, men at fault. News at 11." Men that have options for a short-term encounter don't need to care about a woman's pleasure, because they have sexual abundance. Men that don't have options won't ever make it into your bed for you to discover if they care or not. Men that have options and care about a woman's pleasure are likely in an LTR with someone that doesn't complain that they aren't satisfied with their sex lives, because those women choose to communicate their needs with a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:24 AM
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/u/centraladmin (Purple Pillish) He's been around forever on multiple accounts and always provides insightful commentary /u/angels-fan (Redpill-ish) Also been around forever, good commentary. /u/aldabruzzo (redder than a baboons ass) Classic poster, needs no introduction. /u/SherbertBacon (Bluer than an incels balls) Level headed, rational counter to red-pill. /u/passepar2t (red) Generally reasonable takes, doesn't lash out, great commentary. /u/NarniaFox (blue) Classic libfem, takes nothing per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 09:22 PM
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The goal isn't to change women's behavior at all. Women should freely do as they please, same with men. The goal is for men to be aware of the realities of the sexual marketplace and the strengths and weaknesses both sexes have in it. Truth itself has inherent worth absent anything else. Men are not worthless for being unattractive to women, and they need to know this regardless of what anyone tells them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 09:12 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 12:51 AM
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Whatever you do, don't try and fight it. You'll only make it stronger. Just sit with it, and let it wash over you. You don't have to act on it in the moment, wait for it to subside and then let your rational mind take the reins back and decide the best course of action. Feel everything deeply, and only act if/when you want to, not because you're being prompted to by emotions.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 12:08 AM
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The move 300. It taps deeply into the universal male unconscious. Men working together hand in hand in a life or death scenario. It's a fantastical and self-aware exaggeration of the Battle of Thermopylae that should make any man feel hyped. On the more realistic side it's pretty racist and has a one-dimensional depiction of the Persians but it's told in the form of a war story by in-universe characters, so of course the enemy is going to be blemished. Check your mind out and enjoy it for what i…
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 11:42 PM
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I think they see themselves as victims of a cruel and punishing dating world whereby they entered with only the purest and noblest of intentions and were only met with one-dimensional male monsters. They operate from a position of fear and everything they try to do is to minimize harm to themselves both real and imagined. I'm afraid it's just going to turn into another hugbox like all females spaces eventually do. Endless consensus seeking led by the powerful few in the FDS FSM. In the end I hop…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:28 PM
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Depends on the life you have, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 10:23 PM
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Even with bargaining power you're still not attractive to women. She'd just marry you because she had to, not because she wanted to. Marriage was always a shackle. Now we're free to test the limit of unlimited female sexual agency on a civilization. Buckle up kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:23 AM
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I promise this isn't a gotcha. Do you think women would be better off with fewer sexual choices then, to further their own goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:15 AM
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They're hoping to become the next cock on the carousel. Maybe they just want sex, maybe they're covertly hoping it turns into more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:08 PM
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Excellent take! People who are ruled by their protective instincts cannot abide hearing negative characterizations of women. This is the single greatest tell that someone is just in the default mode of human thinking (bluepill). Women are Wonderful is their state of being. Most men come off the assembly line thinking just this very thing, and it takes a hell of an experience or string of experiences to ever disrupt it. Women do their fair share of constantly reinforcing this bias as well, keeps …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:15 PM
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You don't even have to lie (that would be shitty). If they ask, you tell the truth and keep the convo going. If it's actually a hard limit of theirs, they'll let you know and unmatch. You have nothing to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:37 AM
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They all say that 6ft is the minimum but they'll accept lower. It's kinda like how "no hookups" explicitly means "hookups welcome". Most women can't even accurately judge a man's height anyway. Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:29 AM
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Each sentence I sunk lower and lower. Everything you stated is the truth. What's the way out of this? You can't make people care about something. Short of WW3 annihilating everyone and everything forcing us to start over and making an environment that caters to male traits like strength, what can we realistically do. Women have a love/hate relationship with men. There's "good" men and "bad" men. That's it. You've either served their interests and are good, or you have not and you're bad.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 07:47 PM
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Men aren't supposed to have preferences in women. You're supposed to be grateful that princess has chosen you, by the grace of the goddess. Only an arrogant manpig would dare think to want anything other than what's offered him. Ah, that was fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:15 AM
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Which is strange because women are more attracted to men that are capable of having a large number of sex partners. If other women want him, you'll likely want him too.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 06:41 AM
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It's just neurotic women that harp on porn. They hate it that it's a proxy for the male sexual imperative that they have zero control over. You can't end porn without also ending women's ability to choose to perform it. Quite the catch-22 for radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:59 PM
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imma just jump in here randomly to let you know that the greater than symbol > followed by text is used to quote someone. Not literal quotes. It's apart of the markup reddit used. You can click formatting help for examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:13 PM
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Women are more emotive and have an innate gender own-group preference that men do not. They are not more empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:12 PM
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They're the meme gender for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:49 PM
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Her competition: "We offer employment to all people based on their capability to perform the duty required, not what genitalia they have." Her Business in 1 year: suprisedpikachu.jpg
/r/MensRights11/06/21 09:28 PM
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Incorrect. The women who chose to bring the child into the world is responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:18 AM
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I can hear the reeeeee-ing from here. Good on you OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:08 AM
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The sexual revolution happened because hormonal birth control was invented and the average woman was enabled to act like a top 5% man does in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:14 PM
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There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:07 AM
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Grass is greener situation imo. I don't play the comparative suffering game between men and women, it leads nowhere. You can always go your own way, forge your own path in life outside of relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:56 AM
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Muah!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:17 PM
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but at what point does the effort not become worth the rewards? That is for each person to decide on their own. the pay off is still the same and always has been. pussy, feminine attention, etc. but the demands are going to keep growing and growing as you've stated. Yep! The effort/reward ratio is entirely skewed in women's favor. Both sexes are to blame. Sex is just that good for most men that women can leverage it to get what they want from men. at one point, the quality/quantity of the demand…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:30 PM
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social media and online dating have destroyed the dating market as we know it. i'm not sure if there is a way to recover at this point. Destroyed? People are still dating as far as I know. It changed, that's for sure. the hyper sexualization and access to social media instagram thots has skewed the perception of both men and women. Social media has facilitated communication between people that geography would otherwise have prevented prior, yes. Men and women have always had skewed perceptions o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:03 PM
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"Hypergamy unleashed" has revealed the average woman's true desires in a man for all to see. We have the data now that we didn't before social media. Do you want to go back to a world where the average beta schlub gets the girl but has no idea she settled for him because her options ran out? I don't. Only way through is forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:41 PM
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You have to pay for the honor of taking princess out to dinner because Pregnancy exists (lol), murder, assault, stalking, STI's, and her inability to have an orgasm as easily as a man also exist. Is this femlogic? It also goes to show that despite their unrelenting fear of all of those topics going awry women are still out there dating every day. Are they superwomen and above fear? Are they terrified but can't help dating men just the same? Are they overstating their fear to justify their neuros…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:52 PM
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TRP should only be a source of information, not a directive of what to do with that information. Women are the sexual selectors, all men can do is react. If and when the current paradigm no longer works for most women, only then will it change. Until then, men will react in a way that maximizes male happiness given the constraints put on them by women's choices. Women choose, men react.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:24 AM
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That entirely depends on how much men are willing to yield to the female imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:50 PM
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it’s just so far from my own preference as a woman it is hard to reconcile. I'd love to hear yours if you're willing to share. But do you really believe society finds an equilibrium naturally? I think all systems with competing agents find an equilibrium or they fail. Societal structures exist to impose order in what would devolve quickly into chaos... True. Those structures must take into account the wants/needs of all parties otherwise one side (or both) has reason to not uphold that structure…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:29 PM
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Feminists would say MRA's don't need to exist as Feminism(tm) already covers the rights of all people, men included. My cynical take is that Feminism is exclusively concerned with the welfare of women and girls (and pre-pubescent boys). They masquerade as being organizations concerned with the welfare of all because that is the only way their ideas would be allowed by a majority of people. If they said "We only care about women and girls" AND "oh we also fucking hate you and blame you for everyt…
/r/MGTOW07/06/21 10:23 PM
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Women overwhelmingly prefer a LTR partner that is within 1 year of their own age at all stages of life. That is their collective preference. I don't have the study on hand (feel free to disregard) but it gets bandied about here every now and then. 6-10 year gaps (or larger) were common throughout the world for much of history usually in favor of the man. The fact that as women are granted more rights/education/etc.. than they were in the past has caused these age gaps to mostly disappear proves …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:12 PM
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I saw what you did and lol'd. Atlas is a gem. Next time ask her about foreigners trying to navigate the American SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:56 PM
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Bleh, I hope not. What man wants to think their wife only married them because he's got betabux resources she needs. I know the answer to that: many men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:53 PM
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I've thought about this too. Unfortunately I think it's possible that many men will be able to feel validation from a sex doll if/when they approach a genuine likeness to real people. Once those bots become realistic enough and your mental framework switches from "I'm talking to a toaster" to "I'm talking to a person", validation will be very easy. I think it's sad because that's a bleak future.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:49 PM
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Never underestimate men's ability to sink even lower in hopes of getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:44 PM
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Retroactive Jealousy? Like being salty your partner won't do something with you that they did with an ex? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:42 PM
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You had a conversation with one person and concluded the men here are unraveling?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:36 PM
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Women can want whatever they want. Men are free to chase that dragon as much as they like too. What is the problem? Women obviously do find male bodies arousing. No not your average schlubs body, but above average (like everything women like, ABOVE AVERAGE)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:39 PM
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That would be their folly. Men are not responsible for women's feelings either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:10 AM
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I honestly believe this type of attitude among women is what pushes people towards the red pill/incel behavior. Women aren't responsible for men's feelings OP. A well toned human body is aesthetically pleasing no matter the sex. You're also neglecting that female sexuality is entirely different than male sexuality. The female body is absolutely beautiful with all of it's curves and dips and bends. The male body looks like a stunning rock solid marvel of engineering. How arousing either body is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:04 AM
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For the most part. If women's attraction guides them to men with traits that are helpful to the current environment then all is well. If they're attracted to traits that don't we may get a fisherian runaway that results in "attractive" but totally unfit people or ultimately extinction. Time will tell!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:42 PM
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Women's sexual expectations will never resemble men's. The basis for the decisions, wants, and needs are entirely different. There is no reality where women are 100% free to choose a mate, unconstrained from any external influence, that won't result in some AF/BB dichotomy. To have a world like yours where women see half of the male population as good enough you'd have to make nearly 50% of all men Alpha Bucks. Good luck. Their extremely narrow arousal window is a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:14 PM
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If you could wave a magic wand and instantly turn every man on the planet into what is now considered a top 1% man, mind, body, and soul. Women would be ecstatic as their pool of men they find attractive just got larger. This would last a very short while as the new normal takes hold. Now they will start to find an even finer difference between the most amazing men and everyone else. The enhanced men that were attractive after waving that wand slowly become the new bottom feeders and we land bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:00 PM
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We don't need to do anything. Natural selection will take it's course. If a society embraces values that lead to it's decline then the society which hasn't will overtake them. If what feminism has "done" to all of us is truly a problem it can't be stopped now, not without tyrannical action. If it's a cultural death sentence it will be selected against like every other ill. If it's a benefit then it will spread and flourish forever. Only time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 05:50 PM
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MGTOW isn't a protest. There are no leaders and there is no club charter. There is no society-wide change to effect. If all men suddenly went MGTOW tomorrow we'd say "ok cool". If 99% of MGTOW abandoned the philosophy tomorrow, the 1% remaining would say "ok cool". "Enjoy the decline" is not unique to MGTOW but certainly has overlaps. I personally don't get men that say it as what the wider society is doing now is no concern to a MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 05:43 PM
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This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 05:33 PM
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TRP - "This is how reality is, do whatever you want with it now" PUA - "I'm going to use TRP to chase women" MGTOW - "This is a bad game, I'm taking my ball and going home" BLACKPILL - "Textbook nihilism" INCEL - "Hate women but also desire them, what a mindfuck".
/r/MGTOW05/06/21 11:20 AM
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Easy dear, your uterus is going to float out of your body if you can't calm your small emotional brain down. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:56 PM
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Do her social media followers influence how attracted you are to a woman? Not at all. If she looks like she could be a model but has no social media, does that bring her down a few points in value because there are less men who know about her and could compete for her? Or do you not care, or possibly prefer conservative women? A large social media following is generally a negative in my opinion. I'm more inclined to think they're just in it for attention and validation in which case I'm not inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 04:42 PM
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No, I would instead if asked, direct them to one of the billion services available to women that will be more than happy to take care of them and then I'd leave it at that. If this is cold of me, oh well, I know no woman would ever do anything beyond what I've just stated if I told them the same. There are enough documented examples of men coming to women's aid and facing ruin. Why risk harm to myself when I can just say "Oh, no, i'm so sorry, here you go, bai".
/r/MensRights04/06/21 04:09 PM
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I'll write to my senator ASAP. Armed female guards paid for by men. I guess the man would have to call ahead if he wants to leave the house though and then the guard would be sent out. The logistics are a nightmare but I'm sure they're doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:51 PM
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With a homebrew in one hand, and a cigar in the other, I'll watch as my friends and their friends slowly unravel at the reality that being married to a woman and having her children is in the 2020s and beyond. I show sympathy for their situation and then I shrug my shoulder and go back to whatever it was I was doing....unbothered by anything.
/r/MGTOW04/06/21 12:06 PM
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In practice they want a man that is a dangerous psychopath that will kill for her and keep her safe (while never harming her lol), or gives off the "vibes" that he is one and just has that special something that gives her sexual tingles............but also for that same man to be a sweet, gentle, caring, nurturing asexual father to her children. Now it may be obvious to you but these characteristics cannot exist in the same man. They want someone that cannot exist. Their shenanigan's trying to s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/06/21 11:56 AM
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Good to hear. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:51 AM
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Yes, the vast majority of men understand this. This is not new information. It's frankly condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:43 AM
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No. If women want to abort they should be able to. Men however should be able to abort their responsibility as well. Equal rights. Smart men get a vasectomy so none of the insanity around women and reproduction ever happens. Leave them to their fate.
/r/MensRights04/06/21 11:40 AM
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I am well aware. However, women have agency and need to use it. We can play the mutual game of "Help me feel safer so we can be intimate" that both enjoy or we can follow a hard and rigid rule where any hesitation on the woman's part is interpreted as a hard no and her ass is shown the door immediately. If men are responsible for her feelings, option 2 is the safer one to take. Thankfully this adolescent nonsense is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:34 AM
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I've seen the mods here describe it has women wanting "fried ice" an impossibility. They want something that is polar opposites, but at the same time. It's their hamster wanting something it cannot find and their ensuing behavior is the result of that. edit: They want the dark triad psychopath that will kill for them, and keep them safe from all dangers real and imagined, but ALSO don't ever imagine that he'll turn on her just like he does everyone else. It's part of why they have such a hardon …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/06/21 11:24 AM
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I unironically believe this too. Let's have it. We'll defund all the women's charities and instead pay for every man to have a bro that goes about his day with him. Unless you mean the chaperone is female. But that wouldn't work because the man would just rape her of course. So you'd have to have men chaperone other men, but that wouldn't work either because then they'd just work together to rape people of course. Such a difficult problem. What are we to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:17 AM
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You don't understand, every man is responsible for every bad thing that's eveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer happened to a woman in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:14 AM
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So what you are saying is that men should get away with rape and it’s the women’s fault for existing, got it. Ah the Kathy Newman defense. Why even debate if you're going to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:13 AM
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That person should immediately remove themselves from the room then, obviously for fear of being raped as their no has been ignored right? right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:09 AM
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Do women hold other women accountable for the evil shit they do to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:05 AM
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No no no no, that's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:04 AM
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I'm personally in favor of the "No men allowed outside after 8pm" rule. No exceptions. No emergencies. All women. Everywhere. Penis-haver sighted? Shot on site. Finally women will be able to feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 11:03 AM
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This is a debate forum. If you cannot explain your position clearly to someone you're debating with don't bother showing up. NockerJoe is one of the least offensive people here and I have never once seem him argue in bad faith or be snarky with anyone. I can't say the same for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:58 AM
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Oh I agree. The old way is dead. Marriage was always a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:41 PM
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What are you talking about? Monogamous pair bonding? Pair Bonding ...there have been people that cheated and people that abandoned their family in favor of another. That doesn't negate the fact that societies which nurture monogamous pair bonds last where those that don't perish. That's like saying the possibility of rape renders all sex that people have is worthless. It's a threat, and yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:39 PM
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Their preferences may or may not change as they mature, but their options definitely will, and not in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:05 PM
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That's the crux of it isn't it though? Every successful civilization has had monogamous pair bonding and the ritual of marriage between two people. There are no grand empires let alone societies larger than grass hut hunter gatherer's that employ another model of human sexuality. Why should someone waste their lives being married to a person they don’t find attractive? They wouldn't. Luckily no one is forcing anyone to be married. Maybe we'll be the first civilization to have unlimited sexual ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 12:02 PM
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Natural doesn't mean the outcome is fixed and unchangeable. It's natural that a cheetah is faster than the gazelle it's trying to hunt down and eat, which you'd think dictates that gazelles die every time. They obviously don't despite the natural speed disadvantage they have. The purpose of debate is for both the cheetah and the gazelle to understand the the advantages and disadvantages the other side has so as to best navigate the situation for whatever purpose they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:54 AM
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Master hamster analyst. Pay attention young reds, this man will take us far.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 04:48 AM
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What they didn't mention, or perhaps I missed it, is how many women fail to make themselves orgasm at all. All by yourself, late at night, Fabio on the cover of some shitty $5 book, glass of wine in one hand. If you can't make it happen entirely on your own then you have no business complaining that someone else can't get you off either. edit: that last sentence was a bit flippant, you have my sympathy if you more than occasionally find yourself in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:31 AM
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It's got to be evolutionary. Female arousal is not necessary for a pregnancy to occur whereas it's absolutely required that a man is aroused, to the point of orgasm, to produce life. Guess which sex got the "easy to arouse" genes as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:25 AM
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Oh for sure. It's purely Stimulus---->Response. Male Lizard Brain is a real primitive piece of work. Oooo pretty shapes...me like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:46 AM
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I nominate you PPD Gender Ambassador. For everyone out there always wondering "What do men mean when they say they want empathy from women?" This is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:55 AM
5

Go talk to your boys about it. This just speaks volumes about your worldview. How should we take you seriously? Oh right, it's a "joke".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:24 AM
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Good. Overreaches by women to get men to finance their life choices with the strong arm of the state will wake up more men to their bullshit.
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 12:04 AM
1

Ah ok so when women are behind it demands correction but when men fall behind it's their own individual fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:55 PM
7

A growing segment of the male population surely is, yes. People are motivated by incentive, the incentives in the past for men to make something of themselves are increasingly vanishing as society naturally evolves and changes. Men's value lies entirely in their utility to serve others, or, at least it's rewarded as such. As men's utility is increasingly replaced by new technologies men will increasingly be less able to adapt and outcompete. I'm sure this will have wide reaching ramifications fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:40 PM
1

If men can’t compete that’s on them. By this line of thinking if historically women couldn't compete with men that was on them as well. If we're fine with equalizing the playing field when it benefits women, then we should extend the same gesture to men. Or stop calling it equality (the royal you) and call it what it is, state sponsored female supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:31 PM
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Eh, the cynic in me says this is just going to go the way of Social Darwinism for the average beta schlub. Why wouldn't society just see men that fail as a culling of the weak from the herd? Non-elite men are already treated as disposable and there is no sign of that ever changing. The vast majority of women don't care about Men the Group because they attribute all evils of the world to them and assume greater agency relative to women. Men don't care about Men the Group either because we compete…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:27 PM
4

Shit man you are right hah.
/r/MGTOW30/05/21 09:37 PM
6

I don't understand the desire to want more responsibilities, less freedom, less money, etc especially when we're all still young? Blupill men are conditioned to see taking on responsibilities that serve others at the expense of themselves as a duty. This (was) is reinforced by other men, the man's wife, when he was a provider, and society at large. If you just slave away and work hard for the "greater good" magically the world will be a better place, all thanks to men like you!!! Now if that isn…
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 09:27 PM
10

Love is just another feeling. It's taken me a long time to realize that. Sure, it's a binding feeling, it ties you to another person, an idea, or an object even. But it is still just another feeling, one of which can be used by others to manipulate you, or allow you to even deceive yourself. Why is this a problem? Because if the "love of your life" is a woman and stops feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling love, everything done by the man under the labor of love goes up in a puff of smoke. Poof gone! Knowin…
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 09:13 PM
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The problem isn't that "the world" is telling her all these things, the problem is that she cares. Their desire for acceptance by the wider social group is a significant cause of distress in their lives as women. Smart women, usually as they age out of positions of power in their local FSM become indifferent to it, and it's at this point that I think they're more free than they ever will be. Her options are three fold Do everything in her power to shame people for "telling her" things she doesn'…
/r/MGTOW30/05/21 09:06 PM
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I think it's a cry for help from the mods. Their moderation....such as it is....is entirely unpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:51 PM
24

Bro, my dick tells me who I think is attractive. It's not hard (lol) to figure out. It's one of the simplest aspects of human sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:44 AM
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If you owned a farm filled to the brim with a ton of oxen. Some of which are exceptional, most which are just middle of the road a-ok, and some which can't do much at all, but far more than the average cow. How would you feel if dissent spread amongst the ranks and some of them, just the tiniest amount, jump the fence and begin living out their days without working for you anymore? They do still work of course, but they are the primary beneficiary, not you.
/r/MGTOW230/05/21 02:24 AM
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There is no going back. If you are attractive enough people are glad to talk to you without hesitation in public. Classic rules for having a good time with the opposite sex: Be Attractive Don't be unattractive. Everything else will fall into place rather easily. If you can't follow those rules, welcome to the 80% of undesirables lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 11:32 PM
1

Not my circus, not my monkeys.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 10:16 PM
2

Say it Mrs. Drgree. Say IT. You can say the dreaded I word. VOLDEMORT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:49 PM
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I can't imagine what will happen in a country where the majority ethnic group can no longer find work and are openly demonized on every social media platform. Gee it's so hard to see. Maybe populist uprisings? Militia groups forming? Open racial tensions? Nah, that could never happen in the good ole' USA. Oh and before you make this a Left Vs. Right issue, it's not. I was as left as they come before walking away from all this nonsense. edit: Also my guys, do not fall for the media stoking racial…
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 08:42 PM
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It's very young with respect to the average human lifespan, which is what people mean when they say someone is young or old.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:47 AM
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Good. Marriage is an outdated construct that serves no purpose in the modern world other than to rope men into providing resources for women and her children. After all, it's the woman that decides if that is allowed to be born, not yours. Her choice, your responsibility. What a sham.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 03:42 AM
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if it goes well, they take the credit. If it goes badly, men get the blame. This is female nature itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:48 PM
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As a person? Absolutely. Does it make them the least bit more sexually attractive or a better candidate for short term relationships. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:52 AM
3

This is perfect for the next purge week, please save this OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:01 AM
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You are the strangest mix of RP and BP I have ever seen. Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:08 PM
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My reading comprehension sucks. It's ironic because you would think the more the body is exposed the more men would respond sexually, because there is more to see. For example a fully nude person is more arousing to look at than someone in a Burka.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:13 AM
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If you're talking about the train loving, astronomy obsessed, computer programming, no-eye-contact having INTP crowd that I think you are....then yeah. We out here. Cuz we're not out there socializing at parties lol. There's also a ton of married and bored post wall Jewish wives, loner cat ladies, and well mellinated ladies on a mission to prove why men suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:44 AM
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It's ironic because sexual attraction is innate and requires some indicator that you are attracted to someone. If people are desexualized by daily exposure to sexual characteristics it is not obvious how sexuality or attraction would function. It certainly wouldn't be like it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:38 AM
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Male sexuality can’t be contained Ironically the more women reveal of their body on a daily basis the less sexual their appearance is. There was a documentary I saw (source needed) a long time ago, maybe in Papua New Guinea where the women don't wear any clothing on their torso, ever. Breasts weren't sexual features to men, and they thought kissing on the mouth was disgusting because the mouth is for food only. While I agree that male sexuality knows no bounds i'd be interested in seeing where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:32 AM
2

Truth will always play second fiddle to feelings to someone with an agenda.
/r/MensRights27/05/21 02:17 AM
6

Briffault's Law. No investment by the male means anything to the female after the investment is made.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 02:14 AM
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Men are not responsible for women's feelings.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 08:52 PM
8

Name does not check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:32 AM
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As superficial as dating apps are and all the requirement hoops you need to jump through to impress some princess that's unaware she's your assortative equal, at what point as a man swiping away do you just say "eh, it's not worth it anymore."? Men will never be socialized to doll themselves up like women, we'll never be socialized to photomaxx, we won't see any value in it at all because great photos can make a shit man look great, which means they don't represent reality. But I guess if you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:11 AM
2

I can't give a number exactly but the amount that keeps the maximum number of people happy with their sex lives happiest the most amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:26 AM
1

Concise? No. Otherwise, enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:13 AM
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Tons of women have never been told no by men. Especially men they thought were beneath them or were judging them in some way that they cannot change (like the past) and still were told no. You can watch them turn into Kali on the spot lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:06 AM
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"The dose makes the poison" - Paracelsus Not enough female sexual liberation - no bueno Too much female sexual liberation - no bueno The goldilocks just right amount - Everyone happy! Only time will tell what amount is the right amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:02 AM
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What if you are just coping? Is that supposed to be an insult? In any other field hearing that someone is coping with something garners a thumbs up or a pat on the back for making it by. This whole shaming men is just another way to control men and put them down. Fuck women or don't. If you can and do, good for you, if you can't and don't, good for you. It literally doesn't matter.
/r/MGTOW24/05/21 09:28 PM
3

So how does a woman not let you walk over her Same advice for men and women here: maintain FIRM boundaries. If you do not make it explicitly clear what you will and will not tolerate, then it's on you when things happen that you don't like (within reason of course). but also still date you Don't date someone that doesn't respect your boundaries. Maintain adherence to the snarky 3 rules above for attracting men. but also not turn you off? You can't control this. If your natural way of being and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:00 PM
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They don't need it constantly that's the point. They need it once. Unless you also date women, i'm gonna have to ask you to take an L on this one. It's never just once. It's when her neuroticism starts up and she feels insecure in her valuation of her man. Because masculine men DO enjoy it that's the point. Yes, it is fun, as I stated. It also gets very old with experience and time. There is nothing un-masculine about not wanting to put up with women's shit, that's just shaming language. Why do …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:55 PM
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That's great for them and the men that enjoy playing cat and mouse games but not for anyone else. You can shit test men until kingdom come but it gets old fast. I'd rather stick to women that don't need constant reassurances and shit tests to see if I'm their hypergamous choice du jour. It was fun when I was a teen, now it just feels childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:30 PM
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I see what you mean, because women always claim that they they were raised to be deferential to men and constantly appeasing but that's not what I mean. Aggression is fine. Aggression can even be hot when done well, but I said overly aggressive. Contrarian is also very different than saying "doesn't ever disagree with men". It's more like verbal combat. Men have to do it all the time with other men, the last place we want to do it is with women. We do NOT want to compete with women, we want to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:24 PM
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To attract well over 99% of the heterosexual male population: Literally: 1: Don't be fat. 2: Don't be combative. 3: Genuinely enjoy being around men. We know when you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:11 PM
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For women it's being overly aggressive or contrarian in conversation. Having a general smarminess or disdain in their speech that intimates they are just on another level of existence from everyone else. I guess being combative no matter how little in intensity is just a dead turn-off. Men don't want to "battle" with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 05:07 PM
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No it's not his choice, because only women decide if children are born. His choice depends entirely on hers. It's not so the other way around. Hence, children only exist because women choose for them too, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 04:09 AM
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How many kids did you choose to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 10:09 PM
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Take responsibility for your feelings man. No one can make you feel anything. People will absolutely try and shame you for not sticking the your expected role, but fuck em. Maintain firm boundaries at all times. If the person is the least bit rational explain the many reasons why marriage is a bad idea for men, and dismantle their rebuttals one by one. If emotional reasoning is used by either party abandon ship immediately. People that try to argue against facts with feelings are a waste of time…
/r/MGTOW21/05/21 09:00 PM
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Exactly. You'd think all women would encourage going your own way for everyone. To the FDS types it's low-value men removing themselves from the market, to the radfems it's dangerous misogynistic animals finally leaving women alone and not raping them walking down the street everyday (cuz penis bad), and to libfems it lets them virtue signal that not being in a relationship is a-ok (which it is) even though it's with the caveat that it's only ok if you're doing it for you, and not because there'…
/r/MGTOW220/05/21 07:49 PM
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It will never change. Women have made it abundantly clear that if you are going to be a sexual option to them you WILL fit into this very narrow rigid and unhealthy set of behaviors or you will not be attractive. So your options at that point is to either bend to their whims to the degree you are comfortable with at the cost of your own authenticity, supplicate their desires to change (it won't work) or walk away. Women can bend their gender roles and still fulfill their lives in any way imagina…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:43 PM
1

They're perfectly capable of being attracted to normal looking men. Their sexuality isn't that visual to begin with The entirety of the dating and sexual marketplace in CURRENT_YEAR does not bear this abjectly naïve bluepill view of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 01:48 PM
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No, cheating is intentionally deceiving your partner to exceed the boundaries of your consensually agreed upon relationship. (Straight) Women are wired to find the best possible male to protect them for the 9months of pregnancy + 4-5 years after giving birth, where they are most physically vulnerable. Any marker that satisfies those requirements will give a visceral sexual response of attraction. All(men) are wired to have unlimited access to unlimited sexuality (per Rollo Tomassi) in the sex th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:55 AM
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In most westernized places you have a right to stop yourself or another person from being assaulted. Legally (I am not a lawyer) realistically this means retreating from the situation as soon as possible while simultaneously causing as little harm to the other person. If you can demonstrate to a judge that you deescalated or attempted to flee in good faith while also protecting the other person (yes, it's that fucked up) you will be fine. I personally find it disempowering that you must act in b…
/r/MGTOW15/05/21 10:50 AM
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Damn, she even took half the bed!
/r/MGTOW15/05/21 12:42 AM
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Men don't create AF/BB. Women are responsible for it, due to their duplicitous sexual strategy. Men do get upset with other men for having shitty low standards. I'm not seeing how the two are related. Men compete with other men, the first one to hold a higher standard loses out. It's a prisoner's dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:49 AM
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Men as a group don't get mad at women for AF/BB because most men don't even think it exists. Of the men that do understand it that do get mad it's usually at Women(tm) for denying it outright when confronted. Men don't like being gaslit by women for things that are clearly on display before all and women still go "nuh uh". The third group of men, those that understand AF/BB and don't get mad understand it's a part of female nature like any other. The End.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:59 PM
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Why should she? Uh, because she wants to. I have nothing to offer other than meeting that particular woman's minimum threshold for deciding yes/no to sex. As for what she gains by "upping her n count and getting pumped and dumped" is sex. That's it. She gets sex, which is what she wanted. Pumped and Dumped also implies that I somehow deceived her into sex that she otherwise would not have had. Shame on you op.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 11:36 PM
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It is absolutely hardcoded in them to feel fear and that death or rape is just waiting around the next unfamiliar corner. No amount of safety or data showing safety or increases in protection will ever ever ever change their feelings of fearfulness. It's pointless to try and change their feelings and hope for "better" behavior however you may define that. All most people can do is strive to make everyone's actual physical safety greater. The rates of violence and rape are at historical lows and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:59 PM
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If a man says the exact same things to women they categorically deny it, but when they find out it's another woman saying these things it suddenly becomes amenable to believe it. Thus confirming more of female nature exposed in her book.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:45 PM
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It's mutilating an infants genitals without their consent. If for some fucked up reason they wish to have it done they can wait until they're 18 and chop the entire thing off if they like.
/r/MGTOW17/04/21 09:44 PM
1

It's a form of female bullying. When women bully it usually isn't through overt physical strength or using their body language to be imposing. It's through social manipulation, reputation destruction, consensus seeking, spreading lies, but most of all ostracization. To women being excluded from the group is a social death sentence and hurts them dearly which they project onto men and assume it works the same way.
/r/MensRights06/02/21 04:53 PM
1

You underestimate men's wide arousal window friend. I can get a stiffy from looking at the Stay Puft marshmallow man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:45 PM
4

This is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:17 AM
1

Most men are addicts, even if it's just in the early stages. Citation needed. This sounds like radfem fearmongering. If porn was to be placed on a ban for even just a week, most men would riot Your opinion of men is too low. Most men would be cranky and rub one out with that amazing movie theater in their minds and be done with it. Just like since the beginning of time. No one would miss anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:28 AM
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I understand what you're saying, and there are certainly men that use it to excess in the same exact way people use alcohol or another drug as a coping mechanism, but the vast majority of men are not sex addicts. Someone with an unhealthy relationship with sex will use it in unhealthy ways. The medium and character of the content isn't the problem, the end user is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:07 AM
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TRP/FDS "The other side is trying to fuck me over at all times and i'm going to beat them to the punch and extract as much as I can while giving as little in return."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:55 AM
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porn obscures the difference between fantasy and reality, at least for your brain I mean, I can understand if you're saying our brain is stimulated in such a way that it's effectively being over-sexed or something. But, it's a little lame to say that men can't tell the difference between pornography and real life but can for every other type of non-erotic content produced. I can watch a samurai movie without wanting to pressure someone into fighting me (rip bamboo slats). I can watch Fast and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:47 AM
1

I was agreeing with you fam.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:23 AM
3

Men probably shouldn't marry, period. But if you do, you kind of have to take it all in stride and understand that the house of cards could come crashing down at any time, for any reason really. Cheating is just one of them, even if it's on the rise in women due them having greater sexual access than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:18 AM
1

I think of a lot of things. Doing them is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:15 AM
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Outside of stunted teenagers, no male thinks porn is representative of anything. It's a highly glamorized and dramatic visual spectacle meant to arouse our most primitive and hard-coded instinct quickly and consistently. If a man decides what he has seen in porn should be done in real life, that's on the man, not the porn. He's entitled to seek out a partner willing to do so. If women don't like they pressures they feel are being foisted upon them from pornography then they should consider press…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:12 AM
3

She got that spark.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:07 AM
9

...and maintain attraction. Otherwise cry away! You got this!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:59 PM
49

Dude is still operating under the Just World fallacy. Who cares why she left, you're free of her now.
/r/MGTOW22/04/20 07:55 PM
1

There's no law stating you have to decide now. Enjoy your life and improve yourself for only yourself. If your wants and needs change as you grow, change along with them.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 07:47 PM
8

Enforce your boundaries now. Withdraw attention and validation completely. You know the deal now so you can prevent it from happening in the future.
/r/MGTOW22/04/20 07:44 PM
3

She's married to him for things she can very well get from any man. Is this not RP 101?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:35 PM
3

I appreciate the effort you've put in this thread but you're casting pearls to swine, it's all for naught.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:34 PM
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Most women just don't realize how exhausting they are. Kicking the hornets nest so early in the morning?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:29 PM
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If this were true, no straight couples would be in fulfilling relationships ever. I don't think OP is speaking in absolutes. Men and women will always pair up, because it's the most stable arrangement we have as a species. ...if the chance of happiness and fulfillment was zero or close to it. Again, this isn't mentioned in the OP. Just because it's not the ideal relationship men want doesn't mean it provides nothing of value. That would be a poor way to look at it. It also doesn't mean OP isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:03 PM
3

You don't desire something more than hollow emotionless sex? Why not just fuck your hand then? Isn't the entire point to practically melt into each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:31 PM
2

Well stated. Straight truth and no blame game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:28 PM
1

Interesting, i'll check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:20 PM
8

Start one up. You and your local bros. Just start hanging out and embracing male nature again. If men everywhere did this without regard for whatever the fuck anyone else thinks we'd see a rebirth of masculinity that this feminized world so desperately needs.
/r/MGTOW22/04/20 05:17 PM
8

They want the men they're attracted to to look, you're supposed to know you're not one of them and avert you gaze. Femthink.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:12 PM
8

I identify with this a little too much. In a sense I feel like understanding women's issues and having empathy has been detrimental more than helpful to fulfilling my own happiness with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:10 PM
9

Holy shit. Well stated lady. This is fucking gold.
/r/MGTOW21/04/20 09:24 PM
5

Eh, I don't see what the big deal is. The effect women's bodies have on mens minds has no equal. It's kind of our primal wish that it's reciprocated in exactly the same way (which isn't possible, because we're different). Nothing to be ashamed of. Just another fun little thing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:22 AM
3

I admit 100% to this. With the caveat that I wouldn't trade my invisibility for anything lol. You can always become more invisible, you can't just crank up your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:40 AM
6

You seem too sensible to be here. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:38 AM
1

Author: Mike Hunt lol Is he related to Seymore Bottoms?
/r/MGTOW21/04/20 07:34 AM
4

Yeah once the scales fall from your eyes there's no going back. Might be worth hashing it out with a male therapist. The wider your eye becomes the more fucked up shit you're going to see. Glad you made it through.
/r/MGTOW21/04/20 05:10 AM
3

Cypher hated the real world too.
/r/MGTOW21/04/20 04:47 AM
4

/r/HolUp
/r/MGTOW21/04/20 04:46 AM
1

Me too. EDIT: I still have my train watching hobby, i'm a good programmer although I rock in my chair so hard sometimes that I knock over my plate of tendies. Oh, and I watch my favorite movie Rainman on repeat. My life is blessed in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:06 AM
2

I'll have to report back to mein fuhrer, the uppity lessers are onto me! If only I didn't have animus possessed women to put words in my mouth and to think for me! They always see through my tricks. Too smart, can't be conquered. Jawohl!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:57 AM
4

The desire for control and domination is itself enslavement to the one that wants it as much as it is to the one being subjugated. What joy is there in something taken by control? There is none. If not freely given and mutually enjoyed, what Men and women mutually desire from each other is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:42 AM
2

As well they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:24 AM
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I don't disagree. The apex men that pushed those crimes and policies on the world did so for their own selfish benefit. I would hesitate to think men act as a giant white collective with a united will to conquer and enslave everything that isn't white. You can't really believe that, can you? To your other point, what do you think this white strawman is so afraid of competition with other races of men? They're going to invade America with an angry vengeance, take all the white wives, cuck the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:22 AM
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This may come as a shock to you Poppy but men enjoy competition. There also is no winning for anyone. Black men are not the enemy to white men, nor latino, asian, or other. Mutual competition strengthens both parties. Was the european and chinese raping of Africa a good cultural death there too? I'd hope not. edit: Women do not care about their cultures in the way men do because they can always just squeeze out the next one from their legs. Who will help build and maintain it? If given the incen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:06 AM
3

That's unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:52 AM
2

NGL, when I see your name anywhere I see that medieval swinging axe over a table with a man strapped down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:48 AM
7

as long as they get a chance to control women. Is this like a feminist mental tic? Projection? Those big strong scary men want to control the poor little old women and their bodies, whatever shall we do?! Teehee! Do you (the royal you) really walk around every day thinking danger is right around the corner and men just can't wait to knock women back to the stone age? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:47 AM
8

They were more favorable to men in the same way that an ox pulling a plow is good for the farm but terrible for the ox. A plantation if you will. The ox still pulls the plow today but the field is larger, he works for longer, and is replaced with a bigger stronger ox if he falters for a second. The way forward is the sexes going their separate ways. Technology will increasingly replace the utility that men and women provide each other and there will be little need-based interactions. Radfems rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:19 AM
22

Cultural death is happening. The sky isn't falling, but the sun sure is setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:21 AM
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The feminist pipe dream is to revert to our primal mating strategies (for women) while retaining all the benefits provided by the unworthy masses of men giving rise to modern civilization. Good luck to them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:51 PM
7

Is it really the muscles that trigger tingles? Or is it just a marker for the underlying mechanism "This is a dangerous man that can protect me, or kill me, GUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:28 PM
8

Radical Feminist overt sexual attention makes me think that the guy is a rapist Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:08 PM
1

It's shaming language. It means you're soft, crying, and always getting fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:00 PM
62

They die a thousand deaths a day after doing something that heinous.
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 06:11 PM
1

That grinding/revving sound they make is as terrifying as it is adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:05 PM
5

"My costs have trippled" - Zorg
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 03:45 PM
18

1 Stop asking permission to think what you want. 2 Do whatever you want.
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 03:42 PM
26

Not gonna lie, this is me 100%. Bonus points if I come back to the fridge 10min later expecting different foods to be in there as if by magic alone.
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 03:37 PM
3

Other men have filled the serious gaps in my knowledge about women in general. They've explained with concrete examples many events from my own past and explained how to see them coming from a mile away in the future. I also find mental sparring to be the best way to get "better" at moving through the world. This microcosm of male/female social dynamics is unironically real.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:54 AM
19

Shit, i'll do that for free. That sounds hilarious.
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 01:53 AM
19

The real cost isn't in dollars.
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 01:52 AM
8

Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:34 AM
3

That's nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:50 AM
12

Even in the deepest of my blue days I knew women were master marketers of themselves. It's built right in.
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 12:40 AM
1

Justice! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 12:36 AM
11

I’m 21 and I can definitly find a 15 years old boy to be cute, and handsome and even wish that He was older so that we can date Lets play everyone's favorite game of reverse the genders. The fact that you can say this with little backlash is astounding but not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:31 AM
2

AWALT is meant to be taken in the same vain as "All guns are loaded guns". Is every gun loaded at all times? Did you just see me unload one? It's still loaded, because for the purposes of our concern all guns are loaded guns. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:28 AM
1

She's an amazing woman that's achieved a metric fuckton from meager beginnings without a husband to help. I have personal issues with her that I won't delve into that I am certain have tainted my view in the way you are suggesting. I won't be getting into them with this audience. As for my father, there isn't a pit deep enough in Hell to hold him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:26 AM
1

Are you looking to be offended? Mods will handle the tone policing if it's not to their taste. The term female person should not indicate anything negative to you, if it does then it's on you to help yourself out. My second sentence is wholly intentional and your reply belabors the point. Not everything on the internet is a conspiracy to hold women down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:32 PM
3

Let's consider the radical idea of everyone caring about each other. Let me know when women as a whole come aboard. The entirety of the manosphere's existence is a testament that the current paradigm is not working either despite the alleged utopia of free choice it's seemingly made for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:14 PM
1

I think I have a profile stalker, i'm oddly aroused. I'm not sure we're going to have anything constructive to say to one another so i'll be disengaging from here on out. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:38 PM
2

There are plenty of people that don't really love themselves and still get laid on the regular, have relationships, get married, have kids and have otherwise full and fulfilling sex/love lives. Mating is actually not that complicated and most people just kind of stumble through it. But I think there are certain people that are going to have common combinations of factors that make dating success less likely, and those people should be able to make concrete steps to improve instead of going off o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:34 PM
2

I can't help you. If you find yourself participating more here in the future you will come across perspectives that shift the views you hold dear. I encourage you to start by assuming everything you believe is 100% true and work backwards from there, you'll be surprised at the experiences people have had and how they work through them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:27 PM
1

Animus possessed women are something to behold lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:12 PM
14

I’m fairly new to this sub Turn back now, you can still save yourself. I consider myself an above-average female in relation to looks, confidence, intelligence Congratulations on winning the genetic lottery. I don’t care what men want You'll fit in here just fine. but it’s still difficult to screen all those people to find someone worth giving your time to. This is a problem many men would kill to have. It's a bit like Bill Gates complaining that there are too many nice cars in his garage to dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:07 PM
0

This removes agency on behalf of the seller. Markets don't need to be catered to. If no one is willing to sell a product, the amount of demand is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:55 PM
1

If you see someone sticking their fingers up their ass ...I'm listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:53 PM
0

it sure as hell is pathetic. It shows how desperate males are for some sort of emotional connection. I too laugh at miserable people less fortunate than I am in the various domains of my life because I have little empathy. men need women more than women need men. Men desire women more than women desire men. The entire planet needs men to exist this way or the entire train stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:52 PM
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The collective behavior of women 16-35 leads to this conclusion. They want: Commitment from HVM > STR sex from HVM> WGTOW > BB from LVM > Death > Sex with LVM
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:42 PM
1

The central thing is don’t expect one jot of either romantic or financial enthusiasm out of a man you’re not fucking. This is something women refuse to accept at large about the rise in male sexlessness. Their knee-jerk reaction of "hurr durr why should I care you can't get ur dick wet durr durr" as if sex is just about an orgasm. They understand men so little it's insulting. Men with thriving sex lives and integrated into their social sphere are the pillars that hold the world up. Women are pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:35 PM
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I don't think women are often pressured into sex in most relationships, I think they just use it to get what they want Those aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:31 PM
5

I was too agreeable and had trouble saying no when my ex-boyfriends tried to pressure me into sex. That is a shitty experience. It's not uncommon for men as well. There is a dynamic where women use sex as a tool to control their environment and not for the pleasurable experience I believe it should be. They are complicit in their own unhappiness. If you believe yourself to be such a person you must agree it's not sustainable to be a tool of control and mutually loved experience. If women complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:26 PM
2

It means female person. Why so many women get their panties in a twist over this is hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:03 PM
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Many man are so hopelessly empty that they prefer to live in blissful ignorance. They rationalize away that it shouldn't matter when it very clearly does or men would not feel this way at all. Too many of us pine for validation from women and it affords them far too much power over us. It's a choice after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:01 PM
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Yep this behavior and honesty is greatly appreciated, especially if accepted with non-judgement; but it instantly shifts them from LTR to STR material only. My male lizard brain nopes the fuck out of there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:59 PM
3

Another brother back from the Void that was childhood. Good to know other's are out there. I'm glad you've found solace in your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:57 PM
2

I mean this is really pre-selection right? They inherently value the opinion and feelings of another woman more than anything else so if they think/know other women have valued you in the past then it means you have actual value. Weather that value exists at all is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:49 PM
4

This is like a BDSM kink thing, it's fiction. To each his own.
/r/MGTOW19/04/20 07:36 AM
1

Time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:25 AM
1

There is something to the notion that men have allowed women to be free of their gender roles while simultaneously holding men steadfastly to the rigid male gender roll. It feels like a broken contract? An inequitable transaction that shouldn't be allowed or encouraged any longer. I'm not trying to change women or their minds, but men would be right to walk away completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:25 AM
1

I don't see male emancipation needing to come at the cost of women's. I imagine they enjoy the gains they've made in the last 200 years even the ones that came at mens expense (with male cooperation!) I'm beginning to believe the revolution will be in non-participation. Atlas will shrug. Mea Sponte Non Serviam ."By my own accord, I will not serve".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:37 AM
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My man, you are an emanation straight from the Divine Masculine Shadow to borrow from Jungian Psychology and it's positively amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:26 AM
1

In my own way I engage by total non-egagement. I resist the areas of male gender enforcement I find unacceptable (most heavily the female-centric serving aspect) by not participating. I share my experiences with curious parties but do not proselytize. In a way I don't care about changing the world, only myself. The world can thrive or die for all I care. It won't miss me and I don't miss it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:20 AM
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I agree with most of what you've said. But i'm unsure how any of it contradicts my proposed reasoning. Is it that there is no equivalent "birth control" that can emancipate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:09 AM
1

A tsunami is made of many unimposing drops of water.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:06 AM
1

They're enemies, until they're friends, until they're enemies again. ad infinitum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:59 AM
2

I am rebellious to the core and see anything that restrains freedom in the slightest as something to detest. It's that spirit which I find common ground with feminists (shhhhhhh, don't take my MGTOW card).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:57 AM
1

I'm sorry you've felt such severe restrictions to your mind. Greater flexibility I can agree with but it doesn't go far enough. I think the only way to "fix" this is to leave entirely. For each individual man to say to himself "Ok cool, i'm out".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:52 AM
1

I don't want a rebellion against women. For all my gripes with them women are fantastic just as they are. They are going through their own shit which tends to be adversarial to Men but they are far from being an enemy to me. I desire male emancipation from the system itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:49 AM
1

Interesting observation that it co-occured with many other societal changes and not in the vacuum I tend to think of it as. I am however skeptical that women will actively participate in something that may only benefit men exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:47 AM
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I am not a fan of speaking in absolutes but I agree with the sentiment. Men are relegated to being the "Other" to the female in-group. I don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:45 AM
2

3 maleness can change Maleness doesn't need to change. There is zero wrong with masculinity, only it's the rigid prison it exists in since the beginning of time. womanhood is "lesser" somehow It's not lesser, it's different. It was seen as lesser for much of our past. we need feminism and queer rights to make being feminine not a bad thing anymore I can't turn on the TV or engange in conversation without hearing a talking point espousing the women are wonderful narrative. I've become somewhat de…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:42 AM
1

I'm in my thirties and I still struggle with this mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:35 AM
2

This right here. Less than one hour and I feel my argument is getting defeated. I'm interested to hear other's opinions that reach a similar conclusion or even an entirely different one. I'd love for you to expand on this in a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:35 AM
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I can't speak for reds but yes I do believe women to be more collectivist to a degree unseen in men. To say they're a borg collective though with one mind is obviously incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:28 AM
1

I lean heavily towards MGTOW myself as it suits my own nature quite well, but it's not as an affront to women. Women are not the problem or the enemy, the system is. I will retch if someone will call it the Patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:27 AM
2

Well you've certainly got my hopes up, i'll give you that. I do agree that the revolution for men if one happens will be in each one's mind and that alone. There will be no mass movement or exodus. Just a refusal to play ball: a solid no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:25 AM
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Rebelling from the rigid male gender role and expression does not need to be rebelling away from women or be caused in a way by women. Women's liberation wasn't away from men, but male control.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:18 AM
3

This is my personal sense of the matter which I left out so as to not poison the discussion, but here it is. I assume this means you agree there will be no party for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:13 AM
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My guy you speak beautifully in a very cryptic way but i'm not yet convinced. How is the male renaissance many years deep? What makes you say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:12 AM
2

The view that TRP and MGTOW as an indication of a proto-shaking up of masculine energy has me intrigued.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:09 AM
1

I mean, that scene was probably meant for little girls in which case it's w/e, they've got enough problems of their own at that age. But yes, that's a perfect example.
/r/MGTOW19/04/20 03:09 AM
8

I've seen your posts there. You're a soldier on the front line. Your brashness has the regular PPD women there up in arms, it's hysterical.
/r/MGTOW19/04/20 03:03 AM
3

Justice is a lie, like karma, fairness, equality, and everything else formed from the shitty glue that holds civilization together.
/r/MGTOW19/04/20 01:31 AM
3

Non serviam.
/r/MGTOW18/04/20 11:58 PM
11

Women do not mind being sexually objectified. What they want is to be objectified on their own terms when, where, and how they decide to be. If they are objectified against their wishes for whatever reason, then you get the angry Lillith types in a tizzy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:51 PM
1

Great response. There's a ton to think about. To speak for the devil, in western society women are upheld as the social glue and fabric of their families. This often leads to the well documented woman being master of the home, man being master of everything else. With the rise of female power in the last 150+ years here we see women encroaching on traditionally male-only spaces of power while still retaining that same power within their homes. This leaves very little room for men to maneuver. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:41 PM
2

There are many men that are both, it's why women pine for it so deeply. However it's unattainable for a vast majority of them which is why most settle for the unsexy BB later in life, bonus if they got the AF in their youth. Suppose the matriarchal utopia the Wrath of Lillith types want comes to pass and every woman simultaneously gets a BB and AF boyfriend, do you think they will be happen even then? I don't. I think they will just resume the search for a better BB and a better AF to replace th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:06 PM
3

This is fairly common. Do you think it's because women impose a higher standard for themselves and when the man fails to meet it they get the boot? Men tend to require less to be happy so this dynamic happens again and again. This breeds resentment among men as well because of the underlying "You'll do what I want, or you will be removed" sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:55 PM
18

I mean yes to all of the above except if your last option is jumping off a cliff or talking to a female mental health professional.....I say talk to her. You can always find another person at a later time. You can't unjump a cliff.
/r/MGTOW18/04/20 01:52 PM
2

At least there will be this evidence when her husbands toxicology report comes in.
/r/MGTOW18/04/20 01:50 PM
12

Notice to all men, fucking everywhere. START A PAPER TRAIL OF YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH YOUR COWORKERS. When shit hits the fan and you're unjustly fired, your only recourse will be the paper trail you have of said unjust behavior. The Courts will likely not give a fuck, you will not give a fuck, and the perpetrator will not give a fuck. But if you do, the only evidence that will matter is log of every interaction with date and times stamped and your reaction.
/r/MGTOW18/04/20 01:46 PM
21

Women: Men ain't shit, they need to step up! Men: Lol I can't imagine why men are increasingly leaving women behind and not making a seat at the table anymore. Perplexing.
/r/MGTOW18/04/20 01:43 PM
21

Don't women even realise this false pandering to them by the media entertainment industry is just manipulation? It's so obvious. The constant grandstanding about how awesome and amazing you are because you were born female. It's just a giant circlejerk. If I were a woman and had no need to have my ego stroke I would think it's ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW18/04/20 01:37 PM
8

For many (heterosexual) men sex is the vehicle for their own validation as a human being and Man itself. Being desirable to women reaffirms that you are worthy of existence itself. You exist in a state that is what your society wants, what your friends want, and what your own biology is screaming at you to want. It's far more than just releasing sexual tension through an orgasm. Men lack emotional intimacy with other people almost as a rule. Yes men have intimate male friendships but it does not…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:03 PM
1

Desire is non-negotiable. I have complete empathy for incels (read: anyone) that is unable to fulfill that deep longing connection with another person. Incels mistakenly think it's all about the sex. I'm not going to tell you what you should care about in this world. If you don't care, you don't care. Some people laugh at the idea of starving children. Don't try and equivocate those two either, that isn't my point. I would hesitate to say women lacking basic human empathy for 50% of the populati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:45 AM
34

I'm glad they've finally realized what a joke the divorce racket is! Surely the female collective will begin marching in the streets to make divorce more equitable to both parties.
/r/MGTOW16/04/20 07:20 PM
38

Men are nature's genetic testing ground. They will vary wildly from the mean in almost all dimensions. This makes the smartest people likely to be men (ultra geniuses) and the absolutely dumbest knuckledraggers to be men as well. IF women do their job as sexual selectors properly the most beneficial traits (hint: the right side of the bell curve) will get incorporated to the next generation. If they don't, we'll go the way of the saber-toothed tigers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 07:17 PM
14

I understand but I still think it's ridiculous. There will always be someone better than you in some, most, or even all areas of your life. You play chess? Not as well as grandmaster. You're a great programmer? Not like a senior dev at Google. You're a great parent? Some other person on the planet right now could raise your kids to heights you wouldn't imagine. You can either resent these people and drag yourself down (and everyone else) through petty behavior or you can improve yourself to a le…
/r/MGTOW16/04/20 05:11 PM
21

No, because I'll never be the focus of her world. Her children should be and that's cool. I'm not into BB let alone for someone else's children. Not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:42 PM
1

Special Privileges Equality Pick one.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 09:45 PM
17

You're going to find yourself realizing that in the public sphere, most things aren't a problem, until they're a problem for women. Make something a woman's problem, and it will get noticed.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 09:42 PM
8

Deception is thy name.
/r/MGTOW04/04/20 09:40 PM
15

Gonna get my popcorn for this one. So many social dynamics at play here, what will jannies do? I agree with you for once, Hell may very well have frozen over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:27 PM
1

The sexual revolution was a gift to men. Men with looks see the world as a playground and men without know it's not worth committing resources too.
/r/MGTOW23/03/20 08:54 PM
4

This would have seriously helped me when I was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:09 PM
3

They're not evil. It's their nature to act as filters. They're high disgust/high inhibition social conformists that cluster around the mean in many areas of life. No point in dancing like a monkey for them. Keep improving yourself for your own sake!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:01 PM
3

The dose makes the poison
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:52 PM
9

Maybe because you like them as people? Am I seriously defending the blue worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 06:27 PM
0

Guys who understand the FSM irrational thinking in women can use it to their advantage. There I fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:46 AM
15

This was one of many truths that really made me go, "well fuck". Deep down the rabbit hole I went. MGTOW was at the bottom.
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 01:47 PM
3

As deplorable as those thoughts are that some posters here might even consider posting it, does it really matter? It's an open public forum. The group is not responsible for the actions of a single person, especially when those views are not shared by the group itself. I can just as easily post a false flag on any random feminist sub and now it magically makes them all responsible for what I've said? Shut that sub down I guess lol.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 11:36 PM
3

It's all a dream anyway man, do whatever you want.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 05:38 AM
2

Loyalty to any one man is against their hypergamous nature. You are only as good as the resources you have to spend on her right now. Outside of the present transfer of resources from any man to any woman, you never existed, and won't in the future.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/20 05:07 AM
4

ET remake? Loooooooooooooooool.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 04:12 AM
54

"I do not think I am entitled I think I have a right to my husband money". I do not think I am entitled. I have a right to my husband money. Logic.
/r/MGTOW20/02/20 04:11 AM
1

Why should I strive to be the best so that I can fulfill a woman's sexual imperative over my own? Suppose how I exist now is well enough for my needs from women, why try even harder? It's not my job as a man to satisfy hypergamy, it's yours as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:08 AM
2

More than half the people in PPD use TRP as a basis for their arguments, for that reason alone you'd find value in learning it. No need to limit yourself to these subreddits either, read everything and make up your own mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:16 AM
1

The Vantablackpill. Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:07 AM
3

Godspeed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 01:04 AM
6

Imagine my surprise when I stumbled upon TRP a loooong time ago thinking "Holy shit this is a ton of fans!" Only to be confused why everyone there hated women. That was like another lifetime ago. Down the rabbit hole I went.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:55 AM
2

Well fucking stated. 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:26 PM
3

society pushed women to think they want to get married. I can't wait for the day all women wake up with free will and can think for themselves. They'll finally be fully autonomous agents.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:20 PM
13

Practice radical acceptance. You cannot change them and it would be a waste of your energy to try. It's a cognitive error to think that having an emotion reveals some essential truth of a situation. You hate women? Where'd did that feeling come from? It just popped up from the abyss, that's where. You rationalize it by saying "Women have done this to me, women do that, women are blah blah blah". None of it matters. Watch that emotion pop up, you acknowledge that it's there, and then you throw it…
/r/MGTOW16/02/20 09:03 AM
1

I love how you have to be non-aggressive in your plea for defense from being accosted.
/r/MensRights16/02/20 08:34 AM
1

If that 2018 pic isn't a picture perfect definition of a 10, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:15 AM
1

I'll get the ball rolling: "God it's just awful what he made her do, isn't it? She didn't have to die". How'd I do?
/r/MensRights16/02/20 06:10 AM
1

Vagina good, penis bad? Good enough reason for me. Book him boys.
/r/MensRights16/02/20 06:08 AM
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All I heard here was "Women have no agency and aren't responsible for their actions. Things only happen to me, I don't have a choice".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:38 PM
2

Ever hear a sentence so true you just kind of shut down for a moment? Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:10 PM
1

Most reviled word word in the English language. Use it more and see.
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 11:53 PM
49

Don't be stupid and flash your cash online man. Be smarter than that.
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 11:41 PM
17

Human's evolved in an environment to coexist with around 150 other humans. We were never "meant" to live in megacities or enormous civilizations.
/r/MGTOW13/02/20 07:40 PM
39

I think of it as a cafeteria. There's a ton of shit being offered, take what interests you, consume it until satiety, and then leave or stay of your own accord as it suits you.
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 06:31 AM
3

Would you feel the need to engage in an activity that you feel compelled to record it to feel protected is worth it?
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 06:30 AM
4

I'm of the forgive but never forget camp. None of us can tell you the optimal solution for your specific problem and situation. If there were easy answers, none of us would be here! Place yourself first, knowing others are placing their own needs first above yours. This person has your emotions by the balls, but it's with your willing engagement. Make a choice and stick to it! There is no "right" answer.
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 06:02 AM
2

Forever. Ideas are bullet proof. Go your own way.
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 05:54 AM
2

Man that facial expression cuts deep. The dejection, the lost hope, the death of that imagined potential. Oh to be blue and lost in ignorant bliss! Never again.
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 05:49 AM
20

My body my choice? Nope.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 08:12 PM
37

I don't blame men for believing it. We're the outliers here, not them. It's never wrong to hope for an ideal future but time after time, and through the experiences of other men telling you about their nightmares, it's probably time to adjust your idealistic notions. Today's simp is tomorrow's free man, if only they would choose it.
/r/MGTOW20/01/20 03:35 PM
6

You'll notice this is a favorite line for PPD women: "If you're seeing X then it's your fault that Y". It's a dumb heuristic and they lean on it so heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:01 PM
3

It's an instinctual anti-cucking disgust mechanism. No one cares about the absolute amount of sex a woman has had. For the men that care about n-count it's the different number of partners which increase the likelihood of a kid not being yours in a monogamous pair pond down the road with her. It's "wrong" to people because men are shunned from having preferences and they say we have paternity tests now. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to guess what happens if a high-disgust man demand…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:57 PM
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In my bluepill days i'd have hoped to be the sex guy and the relationship guy with the same oneitis woman. Ah how naive I was lol. Now in my 30's that the SMV is switching to my favor, i'm not the relationship guy ever by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:52 AM
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It's female hypoagency. She's not responsible for her feelings, you are. You must always be working to impress her and "earn " her. It's toxic and self-serving to their imperative. You'd do better to avoid women like this at all. It only leads to your ruin. Just ask the dudes that have been divorce raped by them.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 07:42 AM
51

She's afraid of losing resources. That's it. Nothing else matters lol.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 07:29 AM
9

Is this what happens when you're raised in a feminine primary household? No significant male influence? Fuck that explains a ton.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 07:28 AM
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I feel for these innocent, naive men. They are going to get so fucked over if they ever find out. Which is worse, never knowing the truth or learning it and all the horror it entails. Fuck.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 07:01 AM
1

It's nice to see someone that stares so unflinchingly into the abyss. That last paragraph really drives it home.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:04 PM
9

You sweet innocent babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:03 PM
39

Too funny. It feels more like a neverending divorce to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:01 PM
1

I don't disagree. I am purple here as I specifically do not endorse the methods a terper might use to turn the tide in their favor. Their experiences however have informed my own and have greatly helped in understanding aspects of women's behavior I previously did not. Also, being alone and feeling lonely are not the same. FDS and bluepill women alike might wretch at my expressions here but I've have had mostly positive experiences with women irl emotionally, and sexually. I am not at war with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:19 PM
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They are so used to having their sexual imperative catered to from their youth that they can't understand it functions on borrowed time. Men have their own imperative, and the balance of power shifts to men later in life.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 01:44 PM
22

Lightswitch effect was one of those "oh fuck" moments that solidified my understanding of relationships. Down the rabbit hole I went.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 01:15 PM
7

Healthier, more attractive, higher general intelligence, greater athleticism, disease resistant, histocompatability as determined through olfaction, there's a billion markers etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:23 AM
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The instinctual desire for women to seek mates that they consider better than themselves for purposes of creating children that are in turn better than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:08 AM
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Sure, that's perfectly reasonable. I don't see it as a goal for hypergamy as defined in the OP to be accepted, it's just an inevitability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:02 AM
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Sure but that doesn't mean hypergamy isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:59 AM
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Life expectancy, duration of illnesses, diseases acquired, general healthy appearance, athletic ability, intelligence, there's a billion markers you could look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:56 AM
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I understood him perfectly. “Hypergamy” has become shorthand for low value males’ resentment of women’s freedom and agency to chose what men they want to be with. This description of hypergamy is found nowhere else except your rhetoric. There is not a single comment made in my CMV moralizing hypergamy or representing it as something "Low value men" resent about women. Did you have another question that i'm not seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:53 AM
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Then with your own description my quote becomes "Unrestrained male sexuality is mass sex". Does that change the meaning in any way??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:48 AM
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You do not understand what hypergamy is. I've stated it numerous times in this thread and i'm going on 3 hours of question taking. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:47 AM
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I can believe it because every human being on the planet has a myriad of other instincts with demonstrable behaviors readily observed. Why you would single out hypergamy as being unfathomable is beyond me when it too is easily observed. I don't ever need to do the knee-tapping reflex done in every medical office as part of a neurological exam to know that you right now have it barring some medical condition. I seem to automatically believe it because I've observed it's very existence (and the sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:46 AM
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Superficially yes, both sexes appear to be reaching for the stars, but the discussion is on hypergamy which is the psychological motivation for the behavior which you seem to disbelieve exists. Or is it that you don't see why it matters if both men and women are reaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:42 AM
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Male sexual drive as subjectively experience by men is not to produce children, it's to have sex. Our genes want to propagate themselves through the vehicle of our sexual instincts but that is irrelevant for why a man thinks he's personally choosing to seek out sex. He's chasing that orgasm and it's best had through a big Venus of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:40 AM
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You don't understand the material. Could you try participating in discussion in good faith for once? Why even be here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:35 AM
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I think your understanding of those philosophies is lacking. As it's not specifically related to the CMV i'm going to skip it for now but i'm open to a discussion somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:33 AM
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Male sexuality is about wanting to fuck, not rape. To a prehistoric world where our psychology developed, those two things are one and the same. Consent did not exist. That nuance that is worth more in our world is meaningless outside of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:32 AM
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I'm honestly not sure what we're disagreeing on here. Did I say something retarded that i'm not getting?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:28 AM
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I don't think it's stupid for young men to be bluepilled. We all accept the reality presented to us as fact. Especially one reinforced in the multitude of ways that our cultures does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:24 AM
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Well no it doesn't depend on your own worldview, our instincts exists just as they are. We can choose to moralize them or not but is that really helpful for our purposes of satisfying them? I realize i'm glossing over the dearth of good information your post in this response but I can't stress enough how different the landscape will be once hypergamy is the default understand of female sexual nature. Men will be able to become exactly what women need to feel genuine attraction in the same way th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:22 AM
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But that's exactly what i'm saying is going to shift, specifically in the next two decades. Our sexual natures will be undeniable as information and experiences will be abundant and ubiquitous. Our mating strategies are currently adversarial but that doesn't make them zero sum.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:16 AM
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If I thought hypergamy was an illusion of some sort I would look for evidence that women produce children which are either equal to her in some measure of genetic fitness or possibly worse off such that the trend over time should humans are becoming genetically stagnant but only if there is ample supply of "better men" that these women are willingly not choosing. If that was the case is a majority then sure you may convince a few people that hypergamy doesn't exist, but I could just say women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:13 AM
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Because hypergamy is about the outcome of sex (pregnancy) and making certain to reach for the stars so that the children produced are better than the mother that births them. Men will of course reach for the stars because nicer tits and bublier asses will make their dicks stand taller. Male sexual psychology makes ZERO recognition to the consequences of having sex (producing children).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:09 AM
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Men want a better mate for attraction reasons so they can get a nice tidy orgasm independent of the outcome, as there is no outcome for a man, he's not pregnant. Women want a better mate because they alone are the sexual selectors among humans and personally want their children to be better on a genetic level than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:06 AM
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Can't fault you there. If most men understood this shit by default, there would be no autistic level analysis leading to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 04:01 AM
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Why is that meaningless. "No matter what women do they have breasts, so that renders the word breasts meaningless". You know how you have an instinct to close your eyes when dust creeps in? Or how you scream when you get frightened without warning? All are involuntary instincts. You seem to be moralizing the hypergamous instinct as something women must/should suppress as it is "bad". It's not. If i'm wrong in my assumption, call me out, i'm here for debate and to further my own understanding as …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:59 AM
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Yes of course men would have preferred women desire sex with them of their own volition, just as 99% of men do now in our "domesticated" state. But you've moved the goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:55 AM
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Men are not instinctually drawn to women with top tier genes? Men don't employ sexual strategies in order to try and obtain top tier women? This is news to me. Men are attracted to this insofar as it makes their dicks stand up on end ready to burst. It's not because male psychology finds it particularly good for producing good offspring, that is literally only for women to be concerned with as they bear the burden of pregnancy, and this is reflected in their psychology as well. I agree with you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:51 AM
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Sure, internet connectivity was just a social amplifier, more of what already exists and with a broader reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:47 AM
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I am not arguing against that. In the radically different unrestrained environment of prehistoric humans with few societal-level controls on social behavior, i'm gonna guess that it was a non stop rapefest. But that could just be the secret radfem in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:41 AM
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What way could you realistically measure it? Have women self report their sexual preferences under a lie detector? Follow through with seeing who they marry and produce children with? I think the masses will understand hypergamy as we do, and as TRP defines it. Admittedly somewhat loose, but a functional definition we can base our behaviors on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:38 AM
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Okay yes? Let us shut down the sub then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:36 AM
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Reaching for the moon because nicer tits and and more bubbly ass makes their dick harder? No man fucks because it increases their chances for having better children. That is what women do (to satisfy hypergamy), because they alone must be pregnant and give birth. The onus is on them and their entire psychology for mate selection reflects this. I'm not saying women only fuck to satisfy hypergamy, only that hypergamy influences who they desire to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:33 AM
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The instinctual drive for women to seek men better than themselves to increase their chances of having "genetically superior" offsping. That nagging feeling of "Is he the best I can do?".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:31 AM
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Checking in lol. To be fair you neurotypicals all seem like fucking aliens to us too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:25 AM
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It's only accepted by people such as ourselves as participants in forums dedicated to discussing it. If any of this was discussed in person you'd be seen as a social leper. Women demanding men improve is not necessarily her accepting her hypergamy, it's just her acting on it unbeknownst. Of course it's to her benefit to pressure men to improve (hypergamy!) for her sexual strategy to succeed. Few women outside this forum even will readily admit consciously they have a hypergamic instinct and urge…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:22 AM
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Many men in /r/MGTOW are angry ragers coming to terms with their new understanding of male/female nature. 99% of posts are about women and it's low hanging fruit meme bullshit for mass consumption to the lowest common denominator. What does this have to do with anything? I identify with the philosophy, not the label or subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:17 AM
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You think too highly of domesticated human men as they exist today. Think of Ugg and Grugg with no police around and raging pentup sexual aggression as dictated by weeks of testosterone hijacking their minds in a pre-scientific environment. You need only look at a group like ISIS in the middle east.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:15 AM
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That study showed that men are more rational and fair in their assessment of objective measures of attraction than women. It did not in any way demonstrate "male hypergamy".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:12 AM
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But men looking for the hottest fuck they can get isn't hypergamy. It's not an innate drive to find a mate that is better than that specific man so his offspring will also be better than him. Men will fuck any particular woman and be satisfied. If his offspring have 3 eyes and and extra arm so be it, it means nothing to his innate sexual drive. We can do so as we have unlimited sperm and do not need to "conserve" that resource through weird trappings like hypergamy. It is exactly that way for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:09 AM
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I say arbitrary in that the rituals a specific culture engages in or values don't matter in an absolute sense. Women's personal choices for being celibate, being lesbian, or being controlled by men are irrelevant to the fact that they are hypergamous. It's an instinct like protecting children, or blinking when dust is in your eyes. It's completely involuntary. Weather or not it gets satisfied is up to the woman and the capability to express it in her particular culture. You can be the gayest of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:05 AM
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Sure it's possible that people won't give a fuck. But it's more likely that most people are pro-social and want to do what is most pleasing to most people at all times. If women are no longer shamed for something inherent to their being (their sexuality) that is currently unrecognized, you don't see the benefit in that being openly expressed and understood?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 03:00 AM
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Right. I understand your position. It could be argued that what women find "hypergamously satisfying" is cultural and that will change with the shifting landscape where they are increasingly successful in all measures of western society. The instinct will remain and be ever present, but how it's judged or expressed and satisfied is cultural and bound to shift and change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:56 AM
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hey are always batting way above their league in terms of looks. Because they can. Yes, but that is not a requirement in their psychology for propagating their genes as it is in women. Women have an insatiable drive to always be questioning (to a degree of course) if what they have now in a mate is the best. Men don't care if what they have is "best" only that it keeps their dick hard in the moment. Such is life. There is not "best" mate for a man because they do not carry the burden of reproduc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:53 AM
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Men absolutely try to shoot for the moon in terms of their best option, but that is not hypergamy. Men do not do so instinctually as a sexual strategy to increase the propagation of their genes, as women do. Rich upper class men are sexually selecting for homeless women if that woman has a fantastic physique bestowed by the genetic lottery. Male sexual strategy does not involve "marriage" at all. Men are not aroused by someone better than them, they get tingles from a very narrow window of physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:49 AM
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This ignores the reality that hypergamy is observered only in women. Hypergamy is not simply "take what's best among your options."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:44 AM
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What is the point of this post exactly To make the assertion that due to the increased social connectivety brought forth by the internet in the last 10 years and increased prominence of forums such as this....that female hypergamy will be accepted by the ignorant masses as TRP describes it, once and for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:41 AM
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that doesn’t negate the trends that I think are the most objective way to measure it Could you expand on this, i'm not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:37 AM
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I agree there will be a period of inital backlash and denial, bargaining, and then acceptance. Yay for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:35 AM
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I am not one such person for a multitude of reasons. All will benefit equally from an "airing of grievances" on total and radical acceptance of male and female sexual natures which we are trending towards in the next 2 decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:30 AM
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Hypergamy is established in the scientific literature as women preferentially selecting mates of higher social station than themselves. Women becoming more successful in the bluepill worldview is great(for them!) but it will also make it harder for any one man to satisfy that unavoidable hypergamic urge (as strong or as weak as it is in any one woman). It's an unfortunate paradox. The better a woman makes her station in life, the fewer possible men exist to meet her on her level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:28 AM
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we need to prove it's not hard wired in men. It is well documented in the scientific literature that men pursue across and above, and down the female hierarchy of attraction. Hi Dr. Peterson. Men do no discriminate on a biological level for social status, it's purely physical and immutable (for good or ilk)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:24 AM
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If hypergamy is indeed a biological instinct, which I believe it is, its expression will only change with the culture the women exist in. It's a fundamental drive, but the the particular expression and trappings of satisfying it are arbitrary. The culture that accepts it and accommodates it will thrive where others will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:14 AM
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There cannot be a control group of non-hypergamous women if by definition it applies to all women (which I believe it does). I'd be interested in examples of women never having been hypergamous, and not simply suppressing it. I don't believe they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:10 AM
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It's hard because young men are idealistic and impressionable. Full acceptance of human sexual nature as expressed by the two sexes will level the playing field and all will benefit from that. Men will become everything that women desire. Women are already everything men desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:02 AM
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True, but if you accept that it's biologically hardwired then it must exist in all societies that contain women, how it is expressed will of course be unique to that culture and its arbitrary mating rituals and rules/customs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 02:00 AM
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True Unrestrained male sexuality is mass rape and harems. It's unstable and effectively does not exist because of that. Unrestrained Female sexuality is getting the best possible genes for her potential offspring (at any cost), no society should be against that ever (within reason). What insecurities are you levying on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:54 AM
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Feminism was meant to free women from male control as much as humanly possible. It has succeeded in that regard insofar as the sexes directly "control" one another. BB will be unnecessary in the next 20 years as men will understand why it happens and why women seek it, yet many will still accept it, because it will be without deception and they derive personal benefit from providing (unique to men)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:47 AM
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Women are not without curiosity. Sure in my own experience they'd rather be taken for a ride like in a themepark and enjoy themselves as passive participants but I think we'll find that everyone will benefit and engage more in SMP dynamics and find deeper satisfaction with the removal of all deception and fear of "what if the Other fucks me over".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:42 AM
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It is only accepted by us weirdo outliers talking about it on obscure internet forums for entertainment. The OP is on the spectrum and can only understand it in analytical terms, not human-centered feels terms. It's a blessing and a curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:29 AM
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Men that are willing and capable of attracting female sexual attention will earnestly improve themselves in ways that gain that attention as reinforced by articles in magazines, movies, tv shows, news reports and so on (REAL actual advice, not bluepill face-saving bullshit). Women themselves will have no shame over their own sexuality (eventually yes, you should never feel shame over your nature) and men will be glad to have a reliable known path to sexual access (the men that care that is) othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:27 AM
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I am compiling sources and will reference them here. This is a placeholder comment. Yes I should not have started a CMV without them. I believe it applies to ALL women as a hardwired mechanism by evolution. I obviously cannot prove this. Women are capable of suppressing their hypergamic instinct but it comes at the cost of their personal happiness. edit: Article I: Evolution of Human Mate Choice edit2: as the discussion continues i'll compile more sources and link here. I am slightly hungover lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:20 AM
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The dual mating strategy of AF/BB is TRP lingo for female hypergamy and is recognized by the scientific community if only as a puerile preference for moving up in social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:11 AM
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I just get incensed that nothing will ever make it right. You could execute her by firing squad today, and those kids will still be fucked up because what's done is done.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:40 AM
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Male thirst is so innate and powerful, so pervasive that nothing will stop it on a societal level. Men in the position of buyer in the sexual marketplace guarantee women to be in the privileged position in perpetuity. All of us in the pillosphere are a weird self-aware outliers. A majority of people will continue to be ignorant and reproductively fruitful like animals. The biological forces at worked being expressed through us have existed for millions of years, we aren't changing shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:34 AM
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Hybristophilia. They're nucking futz.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:29 AM
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She's a predator. They're rare and thank fuck for that. They prey on the helpless like wild animals selfishly fulfilling their base desires without regard for the consequences it bestows on their prey. Lock her up and throw away the key.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:28 AM
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I have never had a bad relationship (for real), never been married, never cohabitated, and never produced children (as far as I know). Monk mode is the way I prefer to be still, and i'm mid-thirties. I have seen how male relatives lives have been destroyed and learned from their risks and mistakes. I feel fortunate to have never personally been through the hell most men have in this arena of life.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:24 AM
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If she got 15 years as a woman she must have done some seriously fucked up shit.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:21 AM
2

What was the meal, the atmosphere looks great!
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:18 AM
2

We are not gatekeepers man! Yes generally the philosophy is described as No Marriage, No Cohabitation, and No Children. Not everyone is at the same place in life and many MGTOW have been through the ringer with marriage and kids. If anyone says you can't be here, they are wrong.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:11 AM
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I wholeheartedly endorse feminism. It has set men free in a way never possible! At my age i'd have a few children by now and be working like a dog to support them (sure it's a noble task) and the wifey (lol) but instead it's just me, as I am, free to do as I wish. Thank you feminism!
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:08 AM
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The younger it happens to you, the worse the effects. It's a testament to human resilience that we survive these atrocities. That dude doesn't deserve any of this bullshit.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 12:03 AM
1

there's nothing to life outside women Take pussy off the pedestal and get some fucking hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:06 PM
1

Is that why you're on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 12:18 PM
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Because black women and black culture are gaining more representation and social power and white women are the only racial group with a negative self-bias. Not white men, not black men, not asians, not anyone, literally...just white women. White women are losing social power and increased non-white representation in culture means more integration and adoption into the FSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:55 AM
2

K. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:20 AM
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Just don't sexually harass or rape people, it's really that simple. You missed my point entirely, if a man feels afraid of false accusations, that is not indication of wrongdoing on the mans part. It's handwavey and dismissive to say "hurr durr just don't harass people ur concerns are unfounded".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:15 AM
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Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:09 AM
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The reality is you'll only be safe flirting at work if the woman initiates with you and selects for you. It's dumb, and a double standard, and they will allow the "right" men to ignore the rules just like they always do. Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:07 AM
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If you have to worry about sexual hassment and being raped walking alone in the middle of the night, you're doing it wrong. See how dumb that sounds? Your statement implies men's rational fears are the proof that they are in the wrong, that's fallacious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:05 AM
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In this regard, he is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 11:01 AM
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they are the ones that want it If both parties want it, neither one is being harassed. Optics aside, all men are being punished for the actions of a minority. It "needed to happen" and men will adjust to the new reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:58 AM
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Yep, godbless them for trying. It's got to be hard to want two polar opposite things at the same time lol. Just reminds me of that TRP thing where you add "right now" onto the end of every "I am....I want...you are" sentence. It made a ton of interactions click into place for me. Ex. "I love you (right now)" "Of course I think you're amazing! (right now)" "I'll love you forever!" (right now) "I want a kind man" (right now) "I want a hot dangerous guy" (right now).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:52 AM
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Krispy was a goddamn scholar and only ever argued in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:35 AM
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True, but there's no arguing against their desires. That's why they have a covert dual mating strategy because it's unlikely they will get everything in one man. Women get exactly what they accept and when you uniquely control sexual access you have no legs to stand on when complaining from your privileged position that shit didn't work out. That's the Royal You, not you personally. They're not wrong for wanting what they want but they are assholes for lying about it. Men will adapt, markets cor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:33 AM
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Interesting, I've not heard that before. I am aware of that male armpit odor thing where women can smell histocompatilbility instantly as "pleasant" and incompatibility as "bad". Nature is a clever girl. I guess it makes sense to find someone with as much genetic distance from yourself as possible to allow for greater diversity but i'm not convinced what we find attractive and thus use to select partners necessarily is what's best for genetic diversity in offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:23 AM
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I can't back it up but believe I heard that men "picked" womens physical traits and women picked mens. Men are tall because women fuck tall men and have their children. Women have permanently swollen breasts (unlike most mammals) because men selected for it (hey that thing in the distance if it has huge breasts I can reasonably asses it's a woman I can fuck knowing nothing else). It's also in part due to their covert reproductive cycle, which is another anomaly in the animal kingdom. Pure specul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:21 AM
2

NGL i miss /u/LewisCross too, he was a sensible old red lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:17 AM
1

Every women asked in threads here over the last 2 years that i've seen has said in those dumb hypotheticals about the future "If all men but 1% disappeared whut wul u doo wif ur lyfe?!?1" They all unanimously say things like "I'd live with my female relatives and/or girlfriends and we'd drink wine and carry on without men" Of course this world means everything men build and maintain is nearly gone as well. Granted, only neurotic and insecure women feel threatened by a non-existent robot. Women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:15 AM
3

FEMDOM places the man in the position of Object of Desire, instead of the woman. Most men are never the true object of a woman's desire to the same degree any one woman might be for a man. There's also a submissive aspect but that's not necessarily FEMDOM and the degrading/humiliation kink is also not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:07 AM
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For sure. But I think it's more that as non-white culture is integrated into mainstream American culture things like this will continue to be common. As women are the dominant social force, what they want as a collective becomes what men chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:03 AM
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Because height is a selected trait through human evolution which means the men that were taller found their genes being passed on to the next generation at a greater frequency than less tall men. Whatever physical or psychological trait triggers a womans lizard brain into feeling tingles is irrelevant. The physical appearance and markers of height on a male body were selected for, an actual physical thing observed by women for hundreds of thousands of years. Guns have only existed for a blip and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:00 AM
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If women want something different they should change That screeching sound in the background is women collectively reeeeeeeeeing. Women control the SMP and as such their collective desires keep it exactly as they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 09:43 AM
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Psychopathy is not an inherently attractive trait You are abjectly wrong in your first sentence. TRP attempts to simulate the positive aspects of psychopathy through both external and internal game. Why is a sub dedicated to male self-improvement with a goal of meeting women in the sexual marketplace on their own terms trying to emulate something you have just said isn't attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 09:29 AM
1

Pizza, reheated pizza in a saucepan on the stove with a cover is godly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 09:28 AM
0

Ask them! I would guess that no it's not the same because there's a sexual component to the height attraction whereas feeling safe isn't necessarily erotic. I'd be interested to hear as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:37 AM
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Yes, men are women's greatest physical threat, in the past, in the present, and forever and ever in the future. That will never change. That is their lot in life, it sucks. Men are also their greatest protectors from other men, a fact not lost on most of them. It behooves women's minds to help them know everything they possibly can about a man to see "Can he fuck my shit up, or fuck that guy's shit up?". If you were in that post recently about holistic instantaneous intuition this would be a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:23 AM
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Isn't it more likely that height triggers a safety reflex in women's lizard brain thinking TALL=STRONK?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:01 AM
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I haven't seen /u/KrispyMcsockington post in a while, a fellow paragraph poster. Ah fuck he deleted his account. F.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 12:54 AM
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Sexist!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 12:51 AM
1

I thought the butt explosion is from black and latino influence integrating with the white FSM.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 12:50 AM
1

Banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 12:42 AM
1

The end game of feminism is to keep promoting feminism. It's an egregore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 12:41 AM
1

I unironically love this movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 12:25 AM
9

Was it a zinc infusion by any chance?
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 11:57 PM
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She does not looking for love right now but later we could maybe be together. She put you in her orbit. Today she wrote me how love is lie etc. Her boyfriend chad left her. Now she send me our old photos about how happy i made her Chad did what Chad does lol and she tried to monkey branch back to you, her dependable beta bucks waiting in orbit. Life without women is so peacefull You are the captain now.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 11:55 PM
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Did she attempt to explain why she lost interest? I'm hoping this tilted you further Red than Blue. Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:50 PM
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Note: i have EXTREME self control. I DO NOT have an addict personality whatsoever. Im going to turn these drugs into my bitches, not the other way around Godspeed OP, this hasn't turned out poorly before for anyone else.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 11:02 PM
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You are a self described dominant vagina owner that vets men through sex. Ok. What's the discussion? Everyone seeking a LTR is constantly vetting every minute of every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:57 PM
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How can one intentionally deceive themselves, but not be aware of it. That's contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:40 PM
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Giving you the benefit of the doubt about your presumptions, I disagree. That man may commit to no woman, regardless of her "league". That man may have commitment issues that could be sorted out. Your SMV and RMV thing is a little wierd. Post-nut clarity has nothing to do with your market value at all, it's a biological response to get you to stop fucking for 20mins so you don't force your own semen out of a womans vagina, and return to baseline levels of arousal. I'll be shocked if this post st…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:38 PM
2

You are spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:29 PM
5

You are right on the money. Wish more people understood this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:27 PM
11

I don't believe that attraction itself grows over time, only comfort derived from familiarity with someone. Of course we all know what happens when she becomes too safe and comfortable with you: hypergamy goes into overdrive and she starts looking at Ugg and Grugg over in the next cave.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/20 09:32 PM
5

You sir, are on another level.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/20 09:26 PM
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It's an affront to the idea that men would even want to walk away from women. That's incomprehensible to most people and they lash out at the notion,then they make ad hominem attacks because there is no arguing against the philosophy.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 08:57 PM
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Patriarchy and enforced monogamy are not the same thing. Patriarchy as feminists define it emerged only because men had a physical advantage over women which was required for 99% of jobs for human history. Women also uniquely carry the burden of reproduction and maternal certainty and thus male investment was in jeopardy in western societies that valued male productivity. A world where mens physical advantage is no longer a benefit, paternity certainty is a reality, and technology enables men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:26 PM
1

No arguing against your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:15 PM
2

You understand that any sexual behavior that is consensual isn't rape, right? The act itself doesn't make something rape, the not consenting part does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:11 PM
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When women have thrown IoIs in the past and actively pursued me there's no need (or desire) to do anything to acquire that or keep it, especially with lies. It's all on the woman to be attracted. Sure I could have lied but like I said, what's the point. If the attraction isn't there or dies, I end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:09 PM
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If you believe something to be true it isn't lying lol. Lying is intentional deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:04 PM
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Q4Men: have you ever sold false hopes and dreams to get laid or keep girls around? Never once. If she isn't throwing IoI's and actively pursuing me, she's not attracted and fucking people that aren't really into you is worse than not fucking at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:02 PM
2

If the woman is the pursuer is she raping him?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:58 PM
3

I've always thought most people enjoy the willing submission of it, not making your partner genuinely feel gross and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:57 PM
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If that's what those women want, so be it. I'm not judging. The implications of removing the reproductive burden/blessing off of women will be profound. It's going to have ripple effects in every area of life. I'm personally excited for the future, but the cynic in me knows we'll find a way to use the tech to make everyone's lives worse lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:51 PM
3

Feminism is a Marxist doctrine where men are an oppressor class to women. Feminist ideals, not the academic doctrine, have existed since the beginning of time. Every culture has struggled with intergender power differentials and finding a balance that will be accepted by most. Women are people, get them off the pedestal. They have civic rights because the people in this culture at this time recognize their contributions to society as equals to men.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 07:34 PM
1

I see you are firm in your beliefs so nothing I say will change that. You're entitled to your boundaries as is everyone. If the purpose here is debate it's going unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:29 PM
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Oh you give me too much power over your feelings. What specifically about my "views on women" do you find so abhorrent?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:14 PM
2

Social intelligence is attractive to women. STEMy nerd intelligence may be an impediment and dysgenic in the long run. If tingles could be had that way we'd be in a whole different ballgame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:42 PM
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The people at the top of the pyramid are men, no contest. Feminists operate under the apex fallacy where they judge all men as if they are those men at the top. They justify this by saying all men benefit from "The Patriarchy" (that unfalsifiable pseudoscience nonsense) and that everything in reality caters to MEN. I am to be judged and condemned for sharing the same genitals with their Big Bad Evil Nemesis. How men benefit from this thing or that is debatable but if your ideological basis inclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:39 PM
2

I can't believe i'm agreeing with you for once, damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:33 PM
4

Sure, but if it was the same thing we wouldn't be discussing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:28 PM
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They're entitled to have double books and different (double) standards for men but they have no right to be pissy when men see it as unfair and retarded once the odds are no longer in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:19 PM
2

There's that empathy gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:16 PM
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If it isn't /u/poppy_blu it isn't an exaggerated catastrophic snark attempt. Men are responsible for their shitty choices in life just as women are. You'll get as serious replies as you want, and this is just bad faith nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:12 PM
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being seduced by him and made to feel he wants more Female hypoagency. Seduction isn't happening to you, you are an active participant. He doesn't make you feel anything, he can only say things you are hoping to hear, and you allow yourself to believe it because tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:10 PM
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Oh God lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:59 PM
10

I can't speak for women but for men it's the trust and total sexual surrender the receiving partner gives that makes it unimaginably euphoric. This only applies in the moment, it's an erotic, intimate, submission built on trust that isn't really found in anything else. It's not getting off on your partner being less than, or inferior to you, or degraded. It's about submission and trust. Round butt visuals help too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:56 PM
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Feminists can say whatever they like but i'll continue to watch what they do instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:51 PM
0

if a man has seen an escort in the past, he may have stds and that’s not good for a ltr. I mean that's true of any pairing of sex partners. Also, he could go see one in the future, which again means he could pass stds to his partner People can do this too with non-escorts and the risk is the same. Men who see escorts regularly and think it’s okay or normal should not be in LTRs. Men should do whatever they want that is consensual. Imagine being with your partner, being monogamous and then you fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:39 PM
2

Don't. Dr. Jordan Peterson would say you're denying yourself and the world everything you could become. The world is constantly teetering on the edge of chaos and every human act tips the scale one way or the other. Shit's fucked, it will change. edit: Found the clip It won't solve your problems but it has a chance of helping which you owe yourself to try.
/r/MensRights14/01/20 04:33 PM
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You are not responsible for the actions of other women. Only your own.
/r/MensRights14/01/20 04:24 PM
2

That is interesting. I wonder if one of the conditions for the AI to consider itself winning was "Delay losing as long as possible", however you might program that.
/r/MensRights14/01/20 04:22 PM
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There is no spoon Neo, you might not exist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 04:02 PM
1

Beyond 2000 That was such a good show!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:59 PM
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Men wouldn't even replace real women now with other women if they could have their way. Male sexuality is having a harem of women, not serial monogamy. You'd only ever throw another one into the rotation, it wouldn't be replacing a woman that's already there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:58 PM
1

A picture of an apple isn't an apple. If licking it tasted like one and simultaneously satiated your hunger, it still wouldn't be an apple nor would it give you calories. But if you're "eating" that apple to not feel hungry, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:55 PM
1

Watch there be e-STI's that lock your dick in place because hackers are demanding ransom. Your sexdoll is like a yellow boot on your car tire until you pay the man haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:52 PM
1

My dude you may already be one, how would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:41 PM
1

Dude challenge accepted. Spaceporn gonna make it happen. Just rotate your girl up slowly at like 0.2g until you're there, Official NASA brant ultrasmooth lubricant. The future man the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:39 PM
1

Maybe you're not human but cumming is the satisfying part for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:35 PM
2

damn society for making me think I need a god damn man. There's that classic case of female hypoagency. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:32 PM
0

You're being trolled, stop taking the bait. Shit test failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:28 PM
1

Women are always going on about having more choices, this will be another available choice. No woman will ever have to be pregnant again. It will seriously disrupt male/female relations because so much of it hinges around sex and family planning. It will both take power and give it to women. Freedom from pregnancy, but they no longer control human reproduction. Everyone will complain no matter what happens though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:22 PM
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We're just walking wombs basically. You need some fucking self esteem if you really believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:19 PM
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Because you are only allowed to have sexual release with actual women and all the trappings it involves, otherwise, you're worthless. Anything other than that is shameful (reeeeee).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:16 PM
2

That's literally what proponents for sex bots want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:14 PM
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Nobody wants the end of women except maybe lunatics and irredeemable ragers. It's a competing product for a unique resource that threatens the cartel, that's it. Nothing will "force" women to be better. They will just drop out of society, like what is happening to young men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:11 PM
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They have this reaction because it short circuits the mating dance required of men to obtain sexual access with women. That's why they're all saying it's "low value" because you can simply drop money with zero effort and access the resource women uniquely own and provide (like a cartel). It's why slut shaming is mostly women attacking other women, they lower the price on that commodity, it reinforces their place in the FSM as "high value" women. It's all garbage. Anything that threatens the ease…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:05 PM
6

You're in the wrong forum.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 02:13 PM
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Didn't even get to fuck her with her new tits Damn near fell off the seat laughing at that deadpan line.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 12:43 PM
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He's lucky that was a black bear and not a brown one. Slapping bears also has nothing to do with MGTOW lol.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 12:37 PM
6

So insecure. Why do they choose to live this way lol.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 12:35 PM
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Someone has been watching the feminist fear porn that is the Handmaid's Tale. I'm trying to think back if i've ever forced anyone to be a sex worker, hmm. Ah nope, because that's fucking insane. I'm pretty sure most men just want to be left the fuck alone.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 12:31 PM
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They should all move to that matriarchal island where they kick the sons out at age 12 and only let men in to fix things when they break (they're strong and independent). Their utopia awaits them, it's only a plane journey away.
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 12:29 PM
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F
/r/MGTOW14/01/20 12:26 PM
2

Because MAN is the the great OTHER to the Female Social Matrix. She was just sticking up for another member of Team Women against the treacherous cancerous evil perpetrated by the Other. If you're not supplicating to the FSM and being used by it for Team Women's benefit, you are gone. edit: Yes I know, no jerking circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:00 PM
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I too have noticed this, when I want the absolute truth from a woman or honest opinion (on anything) she has to be by herself. There has to be no pressure for a right or wrong answer too because some women are so fucking agreeable even alone they won't say what they think. Dominant women are the best for this because they don't give a fuck and just throw their opinion out there consequences be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:57 AM
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It's going to crash and burn because women will never be as productive as a thirsty male who's sexual fulfillment requires economic productivity. It's a great trick, and we know it works, but if it goes away, god save us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:54 AM
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If the script ever flips and women are required to be in the pursuer position they would all just be WGTOW. It would be exactly as it is now with women chasing the top % of men they don't find revolting and getting used for sex or rejected outright. They'll find themselves emotionally celibate and dropping out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:52 AM
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Male thirst is the engine that drives the world lol. If it stops, the whole train stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:39 AM
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Every single woman i've discussed this with has said that if a man they were dating EVER went to an escort, there was zero chance for a LTR. If you want to stay in women's good graces as a young bluepill man you will avoid this regardless of it's legality and acceptance. I also think women will never accept a man's sexual behavior outside of one that serves the female imperative exclusively. If you can fulfill sexual desire as a hetersexual man without women, no woman will want you, because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:36 AM
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Men want consistency. If men must do X then women must do Y. When one side starts slipping on their duty, the other side can just say fuck it. However it's men that keep the world turning in day-to-day operations and women know this. If all women stopped going to their job today, the world would change drastically but it would still turn. If all men stopped, we're all dead in less than 72hrs. The male gender role is required for everyone's survival. This will not fundamentally change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:33 AM
2

An actual egalitarian in PPD. I am enthused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:29 AM
2

The wikipedia article specifically states that it is a bias based in benevolent sexism. This means it's patently NOT because women are indeed wonderful creatures. It means the ignorant masses are biased to see women that way regardless of how they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:22 AM
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Yep, the underlying subtext is "Yeah sure you can be and do anything you want as a man, but if you're fucking women you WILL fit into this narrow toxic masculinity box as we see fit".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:16 AM
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This is it. If you are a man and want sex with women, you play the game by their rules or your fuck off. There is no compromise and there never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:12 AM
3

That poor man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:10 AM
3

Take care man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:48 AM
1

It only seems accidental to the unaware beta male, women are far more predatory and mercenary in their pursuit than most care to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:41 AM
3

It says right in the sidebar: "We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is." This is how /r/MGTOW sees itself Self Identifying MGTOW commonly fulfill that desire by: Not Getting Married. Not Cohabiting. Not Having Children. How each man sees that idea and how each man chooses to express it will be wildly different, just as no two vegans lives might be similar except that they both are vegan. You m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:35 AM
2

I think you have a very naive and superficial understanding of the beliefs, and that's okay. It's convenient but intellectually lazy to try and say THIS thing is JUST LIKE THAT because of THESE PARALLELS. Radical feminism is a political ideology that seeks to remake the world into a paradise as they see fit. Some of their shit makes sense if you understand their experiences and how they came to adopt them. MGTOW is a personal philosophy for how one should live their life, like veganism, or Buddh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:14 AM
1

What need is there for a replacement? The bluepill lifescript works for most men, the world couldn't function as it does if it didn't. To keep the meme-worth matrix refs going The Matrix exists as it is because everyone inside is happy with how it functions, there is no need to change it. TRP exists because the Matrix is lying to them (it is) and they have found a way out. There is no alternative to the Matrix or TRP. You could say MGTOW are redpills that got to zion and said "well this fucking …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:41 AM
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Read the Hospital Advisory in the /r/MGTOW sidebar. If nothing else it will demonstrate to you how the subreddit sees itself. People are biased to see neutral statements about women as being negative, they're not. There are definitely men that hate women with a burning passion, those men are lost, there's nothing anyone can do for them. You could say they're terminal and will never leave the hospital.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:32 AM
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There's a link in the /r/MGTOW sidebar called the "Hospital Advisory", you should read it, if you care to. MGTOW functions as a hospital and thus it would be dumb to complain about the number of sick patients. As such, a patient once discharged will leave the hospital and go on with their life. They're not going to check in with the hospital and make that period of sickness their entire identity. There is no post-MGTOW group. You just dissolve into your hobbies and groups like anyone else. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:19 AM
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Not until their SMV starts to tank and they end up on /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 09:08 AM
7

That's oddly specific. Men will be shamed for any sexual activity that doesn't fit the female imperative monkey dance. Frigid shaming women should be glad sex dolls arrive because then they'll have further reason for their lizard brains to select away from these men they find so detestable. As they say on Westworld "The maze isn't for you".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:54 AM
2

Relax man, they're not even real and you're getting hysterical like the girls on Gender Critical lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 08:50 AM
1

I have my suspicions but imma be nice so I can see the replies here first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:48 PM
1

Polygyny is better for any one individual man, monogamy is better for everyone on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:46 PM
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Men looking for committed relationships value women's non-physical attributes. Her SMV is however intimately tied to her appearance, I can't convince my lizard brain to be aroused by a PhD any more than the average woman can be attracted (tingles) to a fat bald loser with $10 to his name.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:44 PM
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This sub is just like any other: everyone catering to women and their desires. The only difference is most men here have some degree of Red knowledge where most other places strictly enforce the Blue worldview. A lot of Red/Purple men leave once the same conversation is had for the 10th time, i've seen it already numerous times. The same women seem to stick around though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:41 PM
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Men that see sex robots as replacements for women won't want you either. Sex robots are not the end, artificial wombs however will be a serious disruption. I think most women will be happy as it'll allow for the end of pregnancy forever (for the rich).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:31 PM
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Men that like women will continue to date and be normal with women. Incels will not use sex bots as they won't provide the validation they seek from an actual woman. Everyone else will see it as a novelty and a glorified version of porn. Men will never not chase women, it's hardwired.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:27 PM
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So long as female conforming social constructionists control the education system, women and girls will be favored. Female in-group preference combined with young girls that score higher in trait agreeableness and are far more eager to please the teacher (authority) than young boys who are physically aggressive and rebellious. This really only applies past the age of like 6-7. A solution is for the collective western hivemind of women to stop pathologizing male behavior and embracing it. That wi…
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 12:58 PM
0

I can see there's going to be a lot of angry, successful women who can't get the wealthy guy as there's to much competition Let them eat cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 12:45 PM
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There's a big difference. Emotion: "I feel I am right, therefore I am" Logic: "I think I am right, here's proof" Emotions can be rational or irrational. They are always just a sensation though. You can't reason someone out of irrational feelings, but you can reason with someone by showing how their data does not line up or point to their own conclusion in a coherent manner. Logic/Emotion is a false dichotomy, they're not even related.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 12:36 PM
6

This is great. I kept reading it waiting for the M. Night twist where men are bad but it never happened. What a state of things to be surprised at highly verbalized romance towards men.
/r/MensRights13/01/20 12:23 PM
8

Female bullying is almost always excluding someone from the social group. It's a projection of what they fear most (ostracism). You can think of it as a shadow version of the stereotypically feminine "inclusive of all" mentality.
/r/MensRights13/01/20 12:20 PM
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Gotta toe the line to stay in good graces with the female social matrix. Fool of Simp thinks he's "in" with them. He's in the demographic most at risk, what a toxic delusional moron. edit: typos, thanks.
/r/MensRights13/01/20 12:12 PM
3

Definitely, just as a woman's hypergamy is. We fight our nature every day for mutual benefit. Some better than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 07:42 AM
14

The political landscape and society in general for that matter require male ignorance and willful servitude. Only men that want to break out of the cell can because we choose to see the bars.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 10:09 PM
6

There's also no upper limit or return on investment. It's a black hole you could just keep throwing into and never get anything back. It's like that meme where the bf tells her she's beautiful a thousand times a day for 20 years but he called her fat once and that's the end haha.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 10:07 PM
4

Pretty certain I read once that men's refractory period is shorter post-orgasm if they see a naked woman they've never met before, as opposed to looking at their current partner, while recuperating. Novelty seeking is a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 09:55 PM
2

Law of Power 38: Think as you like but behave like others edit: You don't have to follow the more sociopathic laws (or any really), but ones like this are top notch.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 09:51 PM
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You can hear her being ejected from the female social matrix right then and there. Host knows it's true, audience knows it's true, she may as well have dropped an F bomb in the chat. I guess this is what Open Hypergamy means. edit: Obviously their reactions are exaggerated, it is made for tv garbage and part of being a good audience.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 09:49 PM
36

Cartman is a great vehicle the show has used over the years to drop uncomfortable truths on the audience. His outlandish behavior and personality allow the audience a mental out to disregard things he says even if they're true.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 09:47 PM
1

F.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 09:45 PM
10

I agree with withdrawing attention. But not as a punishment or with intent to change women, it's because my attention is finite and better spent doing something that fulfills me, instead of them.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 09:40 PM
1

That is very insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:40 PM
9

"Dear fish, what would you do if you were the fisherman?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 06:07 PM
5

I would argue that feelings are the brains way of quantifying information holistically rather than serially as with brute logic. There was a book a while back called "Blink!" that explored the brains ability to rapidly asses an astounding amount of data and to come to an accurate conclusion with zero conscious thought. One example given was someone that determines if art is forgery or not before being sold at auctions. They look at a sculpture and instantly know something is wrong, it's not real…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 05:50 PM
1

I still can't tell if you're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 02:13 PM
1

"Law 38: Think as you like but behave like others"
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 02:07 PM
7

I hurt my intimate partners feelings. I am incapable of empathizing with the male experience. I can't accept that men have feelings and now feel dissonance over what I have caused. He is bad for having hurt feelings. I am seeking emotional backup, validation, and support so I may carry on with my existing views. Reddit, AITA?!
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 02:01 PM
5

I think it's for a multitude of reasons. Most of us start out as idealists. Life experience rips that away at different rates but nonetheless, some people cling to it to the bitter end as if their reason for being itself depends on it. Some men feel a strong sense of duty to uphold tradition (conservatives) and all the trappings of bluepill life that it entails. Others just like knowing that there's a plan to life, that many others have done it this way, and that they'll be relatively safe doing…
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 01:56 PM
15

Unrestrained male sexual nature wouldn't result in men replacing one woman with another. It would be a man adding a woman into a harem of other women. This is an unstable arrangement as it will leave a majority of men without a partner (because they are in a harem already). Unrestrainted female nature is what we're seeing reemerge today with hypergamy. It too results in a majority of men being considered unworthy of having a partner as a majority of women will only consider the top echelon of me…
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 05:42 AM
10

You're fucked no matter what you do as a man. You fight back with full force, that woman is dead 10 times out of 10. You defend yourself with "proportionate force" you're still just a woman beater in everyone's eyes. You run away you're just a coward. There is no "win" for men when it comes to women in any arena. To throw in some Jordan Peterson he has a discussion with Camille Paglia about how men don't know how to compete with women for just the reasons stated above. You go full force as your …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 09:28 AM
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You have to keep in mind when you ask Reddit, as a general audience, a question concerning male/female interactions it's helpful to think of it as if you were asking a moody and emotional teenage girl and her overprotective father and uncles that question. The response you get is one and the same.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 09:07 AM
1

You do you man, take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:15 AM
3

Beautiful face with average body 100%. I'm not sure what conclusion you can draw from such a narrow restriction though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:07 AM
2

Did you just imply that men.....have preferences??? The fuck?! You will honor and obey all the beautiful goddess and queens among you, filth! Kneel before our feels and revel!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/20 09:06 AM
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I'm convinced we are living in a false reality simulation now more than ever. The Admins just keep cranking up the insanity year by year hoping to see when enough people realize it haha. "Look look, dogs can get PhD's now at top universities, an...and..children are elected to congress by way of national balloon animal competitions!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/20 08:58 AM
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Why is it a newsworthy crisis when a random woman can't find a husband but millions of dudes getting their dicks blown off in warzone, getting cheated on; rampant paternity fraud, fucking female entitled out the ass. Captain gynocentrism strikes again.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/01/20 08:54 AM
5

The above poster did not say that, get better reading comprehension skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:45 AM
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I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:40 AM
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Not speaking for MrHerbSherman but you might ask MRA's this one as they're the ones that care about society at large as it relates to men/women. Marriage 1.0 was good for stability but women hated it. Marriage 2.0 was good for raising children but after the pill came along women hated it. I suspect there is no Marriage 3.0 as at this point there's enough history for curious men to see it's never going to work in their favor no matter what they do. You supplicate to the female imperative or you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:37 AM
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Women risk their own lives to have that individual woman's child. It's still tragic, sorry to hear about your friends friends loss. Losing your SO is reality shattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:29 AM
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Didn't mean to delete my previous reply, it said "Wanna bet?" If I gave you a lineup of 10 male babies of various appearances of health, visible deformity, behavioral abnormalities, atypical behavior, would you agree we could forecast which would have severe difficulties doing everything a man has to do to gain the affection and validation of most women in an ancient greece environment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:19 AM
1

They feel entitled to resources a potential mate could provide for their potential future children. Play the game or opt out. They're not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:05 AM
3

It's tradcons that complain about muh declining white babies and birth counts. It's tradcons that feel responsible for upholding civilization. It's MGTOW saying no man should get married. If there are MGTOW complaining about low birthrates because they fear society will collapse, then I say they are seriously confused. If there are MGTOW complaining about low birthrates it's likely a jab against women and some perceived degeneracy, specifically to hate on women, not because they care about marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:03 AM
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Incels do hate MGTOW. They see them as being bitter and in denial and secretely desiring women in the same way incels themselves do. Projection much lol. If you take Incel beliefs at face value, they severely desire women's sexual validation. If you take MGTOW beliefs at face value, they do not desire female validation at all. Best to take peoples beliefs at face value until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:19 AM
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It's shaming unsuccessful men for failing to perform to the standard expected of them. If this were ancient Sparta we'd thrown them off the cliff as infants. We're civilized folk now, so instead we throw them off the cliff with words instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:12 AM
4

12 year old me wishes he knew this.
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 06:04 AM
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I'd say document it and show it to the court but we all know it won't matter haha. F in the chat for all the fish in sea that saw that wriggle lure and thought "fuck yeah, i'll bite".
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 05:25 AM
1

Never considered this. Damn. Although how do you explain paternal feelings of protection and provision for women/children specifically because they're weaker? Part of why I think equality, as feminists, desire it is undesirable. If we are equal, you are worth as much to me as any random dude now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:05 AM
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Yeah, and if I had wheels i'd be a wagon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:56 AM
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I just don't get it. They are THE biological filter of sexual selection, that is their responsibility, not mens. If they are not satisfied with the buffet of phallus' available to them for the 20 or so years that they command the sexual marketplace then that is 100% their problem. If they think men suck and they're not getting what they want, then so be it! Also, they seem to be willfully misunderstanding that MGTOW do not desire women for committed long-term relationships like our still blue br…
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 04:36 PM
4

Outside of work hours respond to her once and only once to say that it is inappropriate as you do not mix business with pleasure, thanks, and bye. Use a bit more social intelligence and finesse though than I just did haha
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 04:08 PM
2

Imagine a world where you're wearing your AR goggles on a date with this chick and this pops up lol.
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 12:52 PM
1

Maybe i'm not understanding. How is what I said above a contradiction to what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 11:23 AM
2

Beta Male: "I wholeheartedly support the female imperative in life freely of my own accord and act according to the most benevolent sexism I can achieve!" Reddit: "Gilded 34,500x, tales of the Knight in the Park told to children for ages to come, rose petals laid at his feet with a full state funeral upon death"
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 09:17 AM
5

It's common courtesy to ask someone's permission if you'd like to take a photo first.
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 09:11 AM
7

I swear I saw a paper on this recently from an academic journal where women by nature expect danger to exists as a selected trait. It is an instinct to "know" that there is danger around every corner waiting to kill him. Ironically as the world becomes safer and there are fewer actual dangers their instinct still screams at them that they "feel unsafe". They feel the same level of "unsafe" in a multitude of activities no matter how safe or in-danger they actually are. Just another reason to neve…
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 08:57 AM
4

Women gain status in the female social matrix by being victims. Social media is an amplified version of the small "women's circle" of old. She's just broadcasting her status to other women and reaffirming her place in it. The message wasn't for men at all, and the man responding to her will go right over her head, as he isn't the intended audience she's signalling to.
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 08:55 AM
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No op, but yes. I think women can perfectly understand that men love women in exactly the same way that they love their own children. That sacrificial, protect/provide dynamic both sexes have. However, women do NOT by and large have that feeling of love towards men. I may be just a touch cynical (lol) but it seems like women love men in the way that I love an umbrella from keeping the rain off my head. Or, a bicycle from easing my travel vs going barefoot. It's utilitarian at its core. I am trul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:41 AM
3

Unironically this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:36 AM
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That social glass ceiling women love to complain about also comes with a cotton basement (not a tampon joke). They're "safe" no matter what they do. Men it's either sink or swim, and we don't care if you sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:33 AM
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Women do approach the men they're attracted to, by signalling her openness to him approaching her (women lol). Of course the much narrower window of what women find attractive works against them as any man they want is de facto desirable to other women too. They are now in the position every man is approaching all manner of women. They hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:31 AM
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I have found common ground irl with a femme presenting lesbian on how approaching other femme women fucking sucks. It was unironically one of the funniest things i'd ever heard listening to this grown woman talk like a teenage boy. It was like the Emperor meme saying "Goooood, goooooood!" Straight women understand the struggle cognitively but man was it cathartic of all places to hear a woman stating so plainly the lived experience of every straight man since the beginning of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:23 AM
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Maybe you have some sort of final solution to this problem? I'm curious how you think the "natural order" such as it was, became upended to lead us where we are today. You thinking there is a way something should be as nature intended is a fallacy btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:15 AM
2

If you understand the pro-female bias we all instinctively have, you would understand how anything not overtly working in favor of women and their ends is easily interpreted as an attack on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:51 AM
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They say nothing because they too will benefit from male ignorance even if they do no personally ascribe to those beliefs/behaviors. Also, not wanting to openly go against the prevailing dictates of the FSM is a big factor. Better to dissolve into the group and absorb it's opinions than dare stand out like a weed and potentially be right. Better to be wrong and protected by the group, than be right and stand alone I guess. edit: any old psychology majors remember that test on conformity where a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:41 AM
10

Well there's a redpill if only he wants it.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 03:13 PM
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That dad just got redpilled by wife and daughter alike. He's putting the pieces together, wonder how it'll turn out for him. I'm guessing he's too invested in his current identity as happy servile betabucks to let it disturb him. Hope I'm wrong.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 02:50 PM
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Their instinct for hypergamy demands they always question if they could be acquiring more. It's a nagging thought lurking in the shadow. I honestly think unless efforts are taken to specifically ignore its whispers women will never feel peace for an extended duration of time.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 11:52 AM
1

We are of the same mind on that friend.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 11:34 AM
1

You're going to have to state what you think is right or wrong first. Why did you adopt TRP beliefs and then abandon them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 07:26 AM
2

MGTOW Hospital Advisory in the sidebar friend.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 07:11 AM
7

I'm at an age now where I realize how much of everything women hate about men is just pure projection from shit they themselves think and do. It's not real.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 06:10 AM
8

The day artificial wombs fit for human embryos exist, it's game over. I think many people (women especially) misunderstand that their greatest biological burden is also their most powerful and influential asset (on a societal scale). Taking that away from them will also significantly ease their reproductive burden but I think they'll lose far more than they gain.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 05:23 AM
2

Damn dude it's like i'm reading about myself in here. You sure you're not a gnostic?
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 05:17 AM
3

ALL women are prone to negative emotions with a frequency and intensity much higher than men. It's biological and served them well in our much harsher past. It's not fitting with our current civilized environment, like much of our other instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:54 AM
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This just seems like a madonna-whore complex but for women where they are incapable of seeing their man as either or. edit: gonna make a post about this eventually, unless someone else wants to take a swing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:50 AM
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hes my HUSBAND not my girlfriend This seems like a weird female thing about compartmentalizing men into different boxes with very rigid boundaries that allow little deviation. Am I seeing something that isn't there? If you see you SO as a fully self-actualized being with thoughts, feelings, and emotions (and he you) why have this barrier? Wouldn't you both benefit from realizing each other's true-self more fully than as a cordoned-off utility? Like, I don't run out and hug my garbage man every w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:47 AM
6

I'm just not getting how women deny this. Do we debate the color of the sky too?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:34 AM
5

I'm seeing some serious pushback here, is this women being confronted with their own deceptive self-serving nature and going full denial? The hamster wheel is spinning is so fast a singularity might form. Every man that has ever experienced this has connected the dots immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 04:32 AM
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Man that masonry is fantastic. Holy shit.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 06:31 PM
3

If it helps OP, you're not obligated to categorize your beliefs, even to yourself. The hardest part many people have is understanding that other people are not a requirement for your personal happiness. You can understand how as a social species humans are inclined to pair up in more ways than one, yet we find our current reality one of a rapidly changing social environment where women are settling into their new way of being (compared to all of history) yet men are still stuck with the old para…
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 06:23 PM
6

All men are disposable, is this your first day on Earth? Yes I would fight in a defensive war, and for the same reason I wouldn't flee my home when an armed intruder arrives. If you need me to explain why, i'm wasting my time.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 05:58 PM
1

Is it monogamy then that is on the spectrum of morality, or is the cheating/lying? They are separate. Mating systems themselves are amoral regardless of how people use them. Are guns unethical merely for existing? Are aircraft? Books?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 05:55 PM
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I don't think you understood the above poster. Women will select for only a small minority of men for reproduction as is their prerogative. This will leave a vast majority of men with little incentive to participate in wealth building for civilization. At best you will have passive happy morons with no innovation, at worst you'll get american ISIS. Or was I not supposed to reply to this shit test of a response?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:52 PM
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It's just outrage bait. Males aren't supposed to be the sexual selectors so male preference is an affront to those women. Their neverending quest to find a mate that's better than they are always ends in frustration because the men they reach for are attractive to most other women, which means they have options. Options means you can be picky...like those outraged women lol. Oh well!
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 01:42 PM
13

Someone holds a gun to your head and says: "Thank you for your unprompted cooperation" lol.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 01:35 PM
14

Because men aren't a collective bargaining group like women, each man is an island. Where men's individual interests lay, as different as they are, won't necessarily line up to our collective benefit. It's male nature to protect, defend, and provide. We would be fighting biology, and society to go against it. That alone should explain why most men say nothing!
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 01:34 PM
1

I disagree that non-monogamy itself is unethical, not that most people practicing it (cheaters for example) are. I see what you mean now though, ty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:31 PM
1

I think that's very wise man. I try to find bits of wisdom wherever they may be.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 01:28 PM
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In an offensive war the only answer is "I object, take my ass to jail, and fuck you too". In a defensive war, sign me the fuck up.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 01:19 PM
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It's also about a woman being special just for existing and being herself while taming a wild beast into an attractive man that falls for her. This shit is porn to a woman's lizard brain limbic system.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 01:17 PM
1

I was asking why you qualify it with being ethical. wouldn't the assumption be that it already is? I don't say "Ethical cat ownership", I just say "I have a cat".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:07 PM
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Why moralize it at all? Monogamy is no more ethical than any other system of mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:35 PM
3

The Male Sexual Imperative is not to reproduce, it's to have sex. As much as humanly possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:33 PM
6

Your argument is compelling. Did you take anything else away from my response?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:24 PM
4

It only takes 3.5% of a population to rebel to take down a government. Yes it really is that low. That is why the state so greatly desires to monitor and control everything. It's grown beyond a system of merely providing law and order to allow for human freedom. If any idea is so insane that actually gains prominence, people will revolt.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 11:59 AM
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While a majority of women do not identify as feminist (the ideology) they uniquely benefit from it's propagation and do nothing to stop it through legislation and voting to keep it's views out of politics. As with all things female there's a public facing opinion, and a private one. Deception.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 11:56 AM
3

If it serves the female sexual imperative, society will embrace it wholesale.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 11:49 AM
16

Once you've exposed the man behind the curtain, there is no going back. You can't unsee the Matrix. Be glad you know the truth and can order your affairs to your highest benefit. It's not the world any of us wanted, but we can make our own lives be exactly as we want now.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 11:43 AM
1

Blue Pill just means the default system of beliefs that you were raised in. Men and women are the same, because they are the same they are inherently equal. If you are a nice, good, hardworking person you will find success in life/love/marriage etc.. It's all Just World Fallacy nonsense reinforced at every turn. They are systemic idealistic nonsense that men who ascribe to the Red Pill accept as inherently false.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 11:39 AM
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Male sexuality strategy (as defined in the OP)is obsolete and cannot happen in the modern world without tryannical enforcement and unethical enforcement. Female Sexual strategy (also as defined above) was possible pre-historically as well as in the modern era. It requires no enforcement whatsoever. To answer the question directly, yes there is a way to fulfill the innate male sexual strategy. Remove all shaming human sexuality (good luck) on both men and women so productive discussions can be ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:11 AM
6

100% this, spread this throughout the land.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:57 AM
2

Is it really self deception though if you didn't know it was the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:53 AM
5

Welcome to the male experience!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:29 AM
3

You seriously do not understand the biological underpinnings of BB men's desire to provide resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:27 AM
6

I want to see this post. Beta Buxxing serves the female sexual imperative however and is the basis for monogamous pair bonding upholding civilization itself. It's against womens nature, and interest, and societies to allow men to understand this. I expect no empathy from women on this one lol. The collective gaslighting of boys and men will continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:19 AM
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The problem is that BB men do not understand that this is how their woman feels about them. Does the woman doing this purposely withhold this information from her man because it benefits her to do so? Is the very real element of deception underpinning the BB relationship the core of the problem. Yes. If these women were honest with their BB man that they did not find them sexually attractive, never did, and will likely not ever, they know this will crater their chances of keeping that man. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:13 AM
1

Very insightful. People will never accept any kind of legal enforcement of a social market. I'm not saying they should. However every other human market is enforced by law, with the implied threat of force and violence that only the state has. What other measure of force could even be used (assuming people even want it???") to control a social market? If you say a social force like shaming, sure, that could work temporarily but it doesn't have the teeth for long term control. disclaimer: Viva la…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:03 AM
2

The real question now is will the alpha fucks beta bucks strategy continue to work for women now that men are on to it? The answer is yes. Male disposability and ignorance to female nature is the engine that runs the blue pill world. Boys need to be taught, as they were throughout history female nature as their uncles, fathers, and other adult men knew it. This happens less and less in the modern west due to social events of the last century. If the deal was laid bare to both men and women while…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:55 AM
0

You win the award for "My anecdote trumps your reality".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:51 AM
1

The male sexual imperative is not to raise children, it's to make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:50 AM
1

You are a sheep in a den of wolves man, good luck out there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:48 AM
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Any yet it is women that control the sexual marketplace, not men. So in OP's case, he is correct, if you did not benefit from the SMP in your youth as a man, it is not worth being married and to your benefit to engage women in the RMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:45 AM
4

We can shut the thread down now. 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:20 AM
1

maybe i really am blind to what the average male experience is Someone else saw this right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:58 AM
1

Here you go op, good luck
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 08:34 AM
2

When words have no fixed meaning, they can be whatever we want them to be. Just like toxic masculinity! There is no country on Earth that celebrates rape. More men than women are raped every year. More men than women are assaulted every year. Rape culture as people that espouse that view does not exist, but if it did, it's not aimed at women. Good grief.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 08:27 AM
1

We're going to see in places that have more male authority without theological leanings on top (i'm looking at you Middle East) the closer to paradise we are.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 08:25 AM
2

To be fair the ban heavy moderation here would likely not let a statement like that exist for long, or even other men trapped in the red pill rage. Such is my cynical belief. Having said that it is unlikely that any man that has experienced life in such a way that has lead them here would ever seek to leave it. Of course there are men like that out there but I suspect they only ever flirted with MGTOW principles and never dove in head first. The growth we have seen here is amazing, it's men from…
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 08:19 AM
8

I absolutely love this episode, faulty as it is. It just really shows how on a moments notice we revert to our most primitive nature and exactly how our natures lead us to the world we see today. I have a flair for psychology and want to see this island experiment repeated hundreds of times over, with different ages, different cultures, different everything so we might hope to distill down exactly how it is that men and women fundamentally differ in such a way that it is undeniable to the most a…
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 08:15 AM
3

The man is a scholar and most would be lucky to achieve his level of academic competence. On that alone I have massive respect for him and his work. You underestimate how many red pills this man has delivered to the world! To play devils advocate for a moment, you have to understand that this man is a bloop success. He met his wife in elementary school and is still married to her to this DAY. He is slowly becoming more and more famous for speaking out against elements of the left that would harm…
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 08:05 AM
1

Bloops are the last people to figure things out. There won't be anything left to salvage once they do.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 07:58 AM
18

Everyone hates masculinity until they themselves require its benefit.
/r/MGTOW06/01/20 07:40 AM
13

What's that career where you pay someone to take care of you and your needs for a fee?
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 04:23 PM
2

They're more like a life strategy than a hard and fast rule. MGTOW generally avoid any legal entanglments with women and the State as humanly possibly. Cohabitation is problematic as many jurisdictions allow for a cohabitating couple to be considered legally married after several years together, even without the consent of either person. Marriage, because it legally ties a man to the woman financially and the distribution of power and justice is in the hands of a biased court system tilting to w…
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 04:10 PM
135

Thankfully men aren't being killed! I didn't even see it mentioned in the headline.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 03:58 PM
1

Toxicity - System of a Down
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 03:54 PM
2

This is a willfully ignorant mischaracterization of what he is describing. Deal with your shit! Pot calling the kettle black.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:17 PM
2

They wouldn't. Did I miss something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:57 PM
9

And every time you feel something as well.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:40 PM
8

Are MGTOW Guardian Angels real? Signs point to yes lol
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:39 PM
53

Every time you hear this you take a shot: "The real dad is the one that raised you, not what your genes say!" "You can't just walk away from your child over this!!!" "A Real ManTM provides for all his woman's children, even if they're not his"
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:37 PM
12

RED PILL: Simp alert. MGTOW: Sips beer BLUE PILL: AWWW how sweet, chin up big guy! FEMINIST: He had a covert contract all along and this is proof of how disgusting men are. BLACK PILL: Repossess the kidney to its original owner. CNN PILL: "GIDDY GUINEA LOSES KIDNEY TO THRIFTY SIDNEY" ah that was fun lol.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:21 PM
2

Good Job OP! Keep your back straight and be stiff on your toes. Don't Marry, don't cohabitate, and do not have children. Women have a far higher social intelligence than men, which means you are in the inferior position with women, always. Enjoy yourself.
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 02:12 PM
2

Well it's bad from a man's perspective because the more selective any woman is the less his chances. Who would want worse chances? I agree, men get the shit end of the stick with regard to OLD but that's becoming the case with regard to all male/female interactions now. The adversarial nature of the SMP is, as you acknowledge, so heavily skewed toward women that male bitterness is unavoidable. As for you and women alike, keep on keeping on! This train has no brakes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:47 PM
4

Aren't PPD women always saying that they cannot become attracted/aroused by just a picture of a person? They need to know more about this person like their personality, beliefs, in-person visceral experience etc... The app provides only pictures and a highlight reel of text of the man presenting his best assets as he sees them. Who says women are wrong to be picky? Stating that women are picky is merely fact, I doubt anyone disputes that. Saying it's wrong of them to be picky is moralizing and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:31 PM
3

They don't wear their clothes for you, they wear them for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:18 PM
14

It's 99% men flirting with the idea of MGTOW principles but internally fighting societal programming. Name-calling is just shaming language and emotional lashing-out. The people that say MGTOW can't have sexual relationships with women don't understand that many are divorced men with children. It also just shows how tightly they value sexual success with women with internal validation. The hating women thing is again, shaming language. Lambasting the subreddit for not seeing any posts about self…
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 11:52 AM
1

Men can and do learn to present themselves in a more sexually favorable light to women. It's not that there will always be some women who want true chads, it's that they all want him him relative to their personal proclivities and social scene. Assuming women have magical chad detectors built into their limbic systems as many PPD women doth protest, wouldn't they want to filter out these imposters? TRP is a testament to men doing exactly what your CMV is about. What i'm trying to spit out is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 11:24 AM
3

What is considered attractive is dependent on the culture, and within that culture that will change rapidly over time. As I understand it "naturals", men that just "get it" are the most desirable to women. Having men that aren't naturals learn what it is that makes them attractive to women will just be creating a bunch of fakes in that regard. So what better way than to just help female sexual selection along with hookup apps? below copy pasta from that post about dating apps that just got delet…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 10:53 AM
1

Any app that makes it more difficult for women to filter out undesirable men will fail. The faster you can get a woman to make her choice the better for everyone. Swiping rapidly is a feature, not a bug. App makers want high retention rates which means more people coming back to the app. Tinder does NOT want people in relationships. It wants to commidfy female sexual selection for corporate profit. The corporation benefits from rapid sexual selection by being an e-pimp, the woman benefits (in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 10:45 AM
6

I can't for the life of me understand how a society enforcing monogamy could have been formed, because it disadvantages so many people (for the benefit of society as a whole). You answered your own question. The single greatest benefit to monogamous pair-bonding is that it enables civilization itself to begin. The vast majority of men are unappealing to a majority of women as first choices for mates. Such is life. Monogomous pair bonding offers a compromise to everyone that in-theory is benefici…
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 10:22 AM
1

Good bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:17 AM
1

(M=110, F=75, Birth Sex=M, Gender=M, Pill=Purple)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:43 PM
7

Just be there for them, because no one else will. I recommend against "recruiting" if we're calling it that. MGTOW finds the man.
/r/MGTOW26/12/19 10:10 PM
46

Maybe she has some kind of Final Solution to this alleged problem of too many unattractive men? What a toxic woman.
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 08:17 PM
24

That's because it is a job interview. If you're lucky enough to be hired you then get to pay for the privilege of working there!
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 03:40 PM
2

Mesophilic. They like lower temps and can make anything from a nice cheddar to a muenster. They don't require long aging time to see a return on the time investment. Other cultures produce different results though, and if that's your thing, culture away. Edit: Is it Shitpost Saturday yet? Yes it is.
/r/MGTOW07/09/19 04:36 AM
28

What was his name OP?
/r/MGTOW07/03/19 06:37 PM
2

Men hit the wall when they lose status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:32 AM
5

Anyone want to give her a kiss?
/r/MGTOW05/12/18 07:59 PM
3

I literally cannot, and neither can recorded history. It's almost like men are......gasp valuable.
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 11:38 PM
5

When I was younger and would approach girls they were almost always in a group. So it was never contending with just the woman I wanted to talk to, it was also Janet, and Susan, and Margaret, and Tammy's ever present bitch face. To answer the question: No single woman is intimidating but to a naive bloop like I was The Collective always was.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 05:57 PM
5

Whelp, I tick off 8 out of 11 in their assessment. Yay?
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 08:01 AM
10

We're here for you bro.
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 06:51 AM
12

Man Bad. Woman Good. End of story.
/r/MGTOW07/06/18 08:26 AM
3

Socially speaking: Women will usually protect other women from men. Men will protect women from men Men will protect women from other women. Women will not protect men from men or women. Men will not protect men from men or women. Bottom line: Women will be protected, men will not.
/r/MGTOW31/05/18 04:34 AM
7

I can see the Red Pill Rage is in full effect. However women were some of the very first computer programmers, including the programmer for the Apollo missions. Hedy Lamarr, the actress, also invented frequency hopping for radio communications in the 40's which is used in encryption, wifi, GPS, and anything else really to radio. Women also did 90% of modern astronomy research and application. I'm all for a good rip and roll but lets not stray from facts.
/r/MGTOW15/04/18 02:59 PM
10

Correction, teacher rapes minor student twice.
/r/MGTOW10/04/18 11:19 AM
2

I say if you're the slightest bit interested, go for it. Worry about your own happiness, forget the haters here. But you do you OP. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW25/02/18 03:32 PM
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