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Stupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:18 PM
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Question For WomenStupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:25 PM
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Stupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:39 AM
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DebateStupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:58 PM
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DiscussionStupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:43 PM
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Question For WomenStupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:05 PM
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Question For WomenStupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:57 PM
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DiscussionStupid4Knowledge/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:23 AM
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I totally agree. In my words, types is heuristic we can use to place some sensible limiter on the possible choice. We may not have confidenc in what we are looking for, but hell a lot more confidence is what we aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:52 PM
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I can see how a lap dance can be confusing? Maybe he thought you were just being one of the bros? (kidding).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:46 PM
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That's very sweet story. I am happy for you. Dating apps pre-select for the traits that can girls use to select their choice. It's not their fault, everyone is seeking clarity in a confused world. Dating apps give false clarity :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:38 PM
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Thank you for sharing you story. Stories like your are deeply nourishing, especially in the encroaching totality of these bleak and cynical narratives. Like dark clouds they spare no sunlight that might help a impovrish plant grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:31 PM
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Alright I see my mistake. It's 3 am here, and I had a terrible day at work. Brain is not fully here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:22 PM
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Those are all excellent solutions. I have applied some of them. But I guess the real issue is doing an activity for the sake of finding a gf seems somehow not right. I get image of a wolf entering a pasture of sheep’s dressed up in sheep’s clothes. I realise how crazy this framing of the situations is. But I guess the implicit assumptions is I am doing (flirting, expressing interest) something girls don’t want and in a place that they thought it wouldn’t happen. The pasture is supposed to be a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:13 AM
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I appreciate your sympathy. Unfortunately, this is now literally the only source of pain for me at the moment 😅. I have a good job, with a good organisation that is actively investing in me. I kinda found my ultimate dream and purpose. I am in best shape of my life. I have got some friends and I am actively doing something new every week. But this issues really bums me out and brings up so many negative feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:10 PM
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Basically you see the doing some slightly out of the social convention. But, what does this feel like for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:04 PM
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The apps could be so good for this reason. But companies going to do what companies going to do 💰💰. Not their fault. Volunteering and hobbies have been a saving grace. But, I guess the stuff I am interested in, aren’t a place where girls hangout. Suicide hotline, yoga, dog parks etc. I find mostly hot MILFs in my local area (jokes!!). On a serious not, mostly everyone is already in relationship or a mom 😓. I guess hot yoga is the only place but that is especially awkward…for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:01 PM
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That’s interesting what you described. Seems the first part is noticing your presence has affected them, taken them out of their pace of life and halt. I am unfortunately already 26 and with barely any experience. I have started to shift my priorities on growing my career and making a difference in my community. Your advice is appreciated but failing to date till now has consequences. I feel giving some meaning to this failure is what left for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:59 AM
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I guess that how being in a company of someone who finds him attractive feels for his. Almost sounds like acceptance and peace. I guess people who are attracted to you give more chance and are more forgiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:43 AM
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This surprisingly hit too close to home 🤣. One of eyebrows definitely raises. Like, something fishy is happening lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:12 AM
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Can you elaborate further? What is not evolutionary psychology?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:16 PM
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This is something that is not often talked about. I find some women can feel at odds with their sexuality themselves. It can be quite frustrating and depressing experience for them when that happens. I have heard some can go without feeling any orgasm for years, feeling confused about what is wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 06:15 AM
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Agree. But you can severly decrease you chance of sucess if you don't understand what to do with that sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:04 PM
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I appreciate you giving me an honest answer. It's good you are still open to new perspectives. I think I have found a new line of thinking to pursue. Clearly, I am at start of thread. I'll develope them further with data and evidence. Maybe then I'll see if I can convice you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:01 PM
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Here is something that resonated with about what you said. The model never told what kind of person is attracted to me and what kind of person I am attracted to. Also, living in a world that constantly disconfirms your strongly held worldview is hell. It way better to live in a world where every new thing is experience as uncovering a mystery. The "Whoa, I cannot believe that happened".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:52 PM
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I can hear you are very strongly believe in your view, I curious, is there anything that will convince you otherwise or lessen you belief in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:41 PM
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I agree. But some people are not socially inept as in not capable they are socially miseducated. I think studying this helps those people. It give them results for their specific problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:40 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:35 PM
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I agree. I think evolunary psychology doesn't teach us how those looks, money and status actually lead to success. Meaning how to turn them to your advantage. And it doesn't have to cause that is not what the aim of discipline is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:17 PM
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What I am trying to get across is their facial features, height, and status the only factors leading to sexual interest? Why stop there? Because it appears female sexuality is more than just those factors. Also, majority of the factors you listed cannot be manipulated or altered. How are they helpful? What about finding how to use what you have properly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:12 PM
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That's what I was trying to convey with the hieght example. You actually have learn to execute them, and luckly there is another disciple of science that studies factors important in an successful execution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:01 PM
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I think judging by how this post went, you may unfortunately be right. It is discouraging but it good to know not everyone is of that belief. I just don't understand how you can define what is sexually attractive to the other gender without understanding how they actually get sexually attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:58 PM
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Does that mean I am heading in right direction? It feel better to know there is more room to grow then just "height, status, and money". You can stop predicting how things are gonna go and actually try stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:51 PM
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I think many people are precisely frustrated because, they do the gym, get a higher paying job, and status but struggle to actually turn that into reproductive sucessess. So they have what it takes but don't know how to turn them into success.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:44 PM
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So you are saying in majority of the case those guys can get sex easily, or that most women will sexually interested in them. I see where you are coming from, that is the glaring factor that stand outs, but what I am saying is that end of your exploration?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:29 PM
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Sorry mistyped. I meant "Not just...". I am also of the same mind set. You can integrate the findings from evolutionary theory that more abract, or as they refer "utlimate explanation", and findings from other discipline that are more grounded in nature. If you are only abstract you loss the detailed picture you need to implement that in messy day to day word. Sexology for example is much more grounded and dealing with not "reproductive success" but how sexual reproduction actually happens, fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:21 PM
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Firstly thank you for sharing. This is type of thing I was talking about. It not just being tall or physical feature, I mean clearly they are important, but if you don't learn to banter then interest is not provoked. I also had a girl who was really into biting. She would get really turned on if you bit her just the right amount of strength in the right places. In fact when we flirting that actually what tipped the scale, I made some joke about you are so soft it make me wanna bite you. I though…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:13 PM
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I can hear you see I have oversteped my boundary. I will not claim I hold any qualification in evolutionary psychology (not yet anyway), so I can misunderstood the science or go in wrong way. Can you help me understand where you believe I went wrong? I am always open to changing my view if there is good reasons for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:00 PM
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I have unique perspective because I work in the counselling field. So I hear these conversations occasionally over the phone. So I hear from them directly. Also, a girl doesn't have to be 10/10 to make you absolutely fall in love with her, some times even an average become a 10/10 when she hits a string, deep in you, that even you didn't know was yearning to be strum. You not aware of this things you don't pay attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:49 PM
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I am saying follow the data. Just data of fields of science other than evolutionary science. There needs to be a more interdisciplinary approach to understanding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:39 PM
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What do mean minor situations? and the greater picture?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:37 PM
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Why do you say I have no reason to think it's any more complex then have "X, Y, Z factors and you get sexual interest". I agree that women won't have a magical change in preferences. But what I am saying is that preferences are influenced by what is learned about sexuality and how it is learned. The example I gave about the self-inhibiting rat was to illustrate that point. If you say cue for sexual interest are this narrow band of feature, and you say I don't have them, then it is a possible tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:34 PM
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Ummm I am not being rude, but did you read my post? My argument was against that "X, Y, Z, = sexual interest". Even guys with those exact features women aren't interested in having have sex ALL of the time. And there are guys who don't have those features but women are interested in having sex some of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:45 AM
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Does anyone know how to reduce one's sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:42 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement. I don’t even know if they want to…but I am going to keep getting jacked. Aiming for 50 pushups by the end of May.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:03 AM
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I feel quitting dating is not a cold Turkey drop it out of your hand. I think it happens slowly over time. Right, now when I look at an attractive person I am just indifferent, not being pulled in to her and not being push away from her….just a staying where I am and recognising “oh this a pretty lady”. It’s definitely happening albeit gradually but it heading there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:01 AM
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The help part was the reframe near the end where I am saying to disconnect other aspect of your well-being from dating. The unfortunate truth is there is a big portion of success that comes from things outside of our control, at least getting dates. Wouldn’t you say that’s true? So, I am helping myself in this post by airing out my thoughts. I don’t want to ruin my joy in life because of my lack of success in dating. There is reason to be a better man then to just ‘attract a mate’. I know people…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:26 PM
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I am experimenting a little bit. I not really sure where to get a hold of MDMA but I have done Amanita Mascaria. That was the first time I true understood what self-love was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:37 PM
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I sympathise with you buddy, that is tough thing to deal with everyday. I have noticed the dissonace myself, especially when I am midly buzzed. That background feeling of being a loser lifts and I can see others around me having fun and being interested. Just happed two days ago at the party.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:40 AM
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I can see where you are kinda coming from. I guess you are saying, "if you are going to give up just do it why tell everyone about it". I was wondering if there has been time you have proclaimed or mention giving up of something? What were your intentions for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:36 AM
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That’s a neat idea. I should gather some data about it. I ask for a chat in more grounded places like libraries, parks, or trains.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:24 PM
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True. That must have been memorable then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:00 AM
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Sometimes. But not if the person I see face to face regularly. Actually, most times, unless we cross paths or have something important in common. Which I guess is expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:30 AM
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That’s nice man. How was it getting the compliment about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:16 AM
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She told you were “ten out of ten”. Nice. What did you tell her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:41 AM
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Thank you. Rejection and stuff of that nature I always hold as good possibility. It’s good to also learn to how to deal with them properly too. So, I don’t mind it. We’ll see I guess what unfolds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:36 AM
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Just something to break the comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:52 PM
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I agree, you cannot force an interaction you have to be on the look for an appropriate opportunity. I am thinking of joint ju-jitsu soon. We’ll see what come of that, I am pretty sure it popular with girls now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:52 PM
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I described myself before in earlier post. 5ft6, Indian, 6/10 (I think), moderately jacked, good smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:11 PM
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Risk humiliation? Well so I can learn how to handle humiliation. And also, learn people are more forgiving than we give them credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:27 PM
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Yup, that is part of my reasons for it. Also, it fascinating where conversations with strangers can take you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:24 PM
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I am in western context. Also, they can be telling there friends they met a creep. But, the opposite is also true. Also, they judgment can be incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:22 PM
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I felt that too. Actually. in my area after COVID less people come to the dog park now. We had a solid group of regulars happening but now barely anyone comes. Because of that I also barely go there now. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:17 PM
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Hmmm. Food for thought
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:14 PM
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Key part is “I think”. Do you have the totality of wisdom to predict what outcome is going to happen in this particular context. Maybe. But since you are one of us mortals probably not. It could end in humiliation but do you have no doubt it would? I mean, when would it and when would it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:12 PM
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Ah! There is the confusion. I left on my own. Other times they asked to exchange number. And other times I asked if she would like to exchange numbers. I do compliment them. I do this across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:08 PM
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Jesus! Ladies as in MILFs. You have to compliment them differently…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:03 PM
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How can you determine that so far removed from the situation? It’s a bit much don’t you think 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:00 PM
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Maybe, it could be possible. They smiled and thanked me and I then left. I didn’t have the opportunity to ask them whether they thought I was creepy. So, that would be my assumption? Although, few exchanged phones numbers. What about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:57 PM
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Nope. I am Indian and they were mostly white. What do u think that edge is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:24 PM
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Thanks. I guess we are in the minority. Although, people do really enjoy telling others their stories and someone to genuinely listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:17 PM
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I don’t get…what is this supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:15 PM
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I mean, I do feel weird asking for her number at the grocery store checkout. Library not so much. Time and place, and context matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:08 PM
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I’ll see how it unfolds for me I guess. Currently I am flat out studying for my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:06 PM
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I am 5ft6-166cm (I think). Not particularly handsome, I don’t think. Also, not sure why them receiving tonnes of compliments is relevant. Who gets tired of genuine validation of their own existence. Would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:59 PM
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Hmmm..good to know. 😗🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:52 PM
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That is true. I am also not in love with them. I don’t know them apart from their physical appearance. Only after spending time will that be clear. But hey they gave me there number. Isn’t that a step in the right direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:51 PM
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Maybe. But only till I see the point. I see the point: the outcome might stay the same but I am changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:48 PM
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Thank you for the encouragement. I can see you are working on yourself. Keep it up, it’s good thing you are doing. As I mentioned, I realised that world is not so simple to comply perfectly to my model of how it is supposed to run. Also, I am more than I think I am because who I think I am is biased by who I believe I am. And our beliefs about us-and not just us but our “world”-are not the whole truth. These are perspectives and ways of looking. I mean, take for instances yourself, do others see…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:45 PM
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Haha I know those dreams. I have had them flashed before my awareness lol. But remember I mentioned “what would happen?” in place of “what could happen?”. The “w” is small change but has profound effect. What do u reckon it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:26 PM
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Go for it! I am happy this has been encouraging for you. I found that anxiety comes from being trapped in a particular world view. In fact, you are seeing what may happen through it. Realising that such is a perspective and not the truth allows you ask what could happen, which bring wonder. Wonder feels exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:30 PM
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Not for a compliment I hope haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:44 PM
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Pardon!?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:39 PM
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I am starting to believe a lot more than I think actually are. And you would be right to not feel comfortable having a chat. I am asking for an obtuse favour. It always keep it about there day or there interest. When we end, I make sure to really let them now that they have been a great help and I enjoy our time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:36 PM
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I don’t know, I have gone through somewhat of a transformation in the past two year, mentally and physically. Not saying I have become an entirely different being but I have more hopes now than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:20 AM
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The issue with statistics is the degree to which that relationship is generalisable to real world. Also, it important to takes into consideration the strengths of the relationship and the type of analysis run. Things change when many factors are imputed in the analysis compare to one. Also, statistics should always be interpreted while considering the limitations of the study and statistical analysis. Also, statistics don’t tell you what they mean-that is the domain of philosophising and theoris…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:58 AM
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I realise that raising a dog may not give your a clear perspective of what it to be in a relationship, but my experience raising my dog was that I learnt care about his emotions and his needs. I made many changes to my life to make room for his flourishing: waking up early, going to meet people so he can have friendship, and when I was training his I learnt to not force him but understand how communicate to him. He helped me learn what it is like to put someone else above yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:29 AM
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Why was it harder for you to later find love and relationships? I am asking cause I have someone what of a different experience. I realised that there were many factor that were out of my control that contributed to my sexlessness, the biggest probably delayed puberty and me skipping two grades, so I was always two years younger then my peers. The more I got myself out of that environment the more I began to realise I am more than what I thought I was. I feel context and our lived history matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:48 PM
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Oh! The story is more complex. Do you wish to get back together?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:37 PM
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I also not sure why they get offended? I mean, I guess it doesn’t fit the typical story line that we are feed, and so maybe they want to feel justified in their pain. But I think they forgot niche construction. You have figure out your own niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:35 PM
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I have noticed the narrative you told and narrative about being “a lost cause at 25” are in a constant battle. Not sure why 25 is treated as the final deadline and the unique history of person not taken into consideration. Also, that’s sad to lose someone so precious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:30 PM
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I’ll give you losing your virginity, but that why I asked no relationship in particular. If you decently attractive and decently interesting, you place yourself in right place at the right time and get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:23 PM
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Why is it over?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:17 PM
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Hmm so you found a person you could be yourself around. That’s very nice. Happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:15 PM
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So, if he wasn’t those things by 25 he would have found a relationship by 25. But if he didn’t find one by 25 then he was fundamentally unattractive. So, him get a relationship determines whether or not he is attractive enough to get one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:13 PM
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Right…but what if by age 25 he is not these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 02:00 PM
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So, what made you decide to date him? Did something about him cancel out his history of lack of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:56 PM
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What do you mean by fundamentally unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:53 PM
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Oh? I am too. I am referring to Indian cultural norm being a disadvantage when applied in a western cultural context. I am sure those norm function just fine in India, but not in a western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:51 PM
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Was his lack of a relationship something that was turn off? If you don’t mind me asking what made you decide to date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:49 PM
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What if they are 24 and have a cute dog they make space for in their life. I feel there is a difference between being alone and being without a relationship. Also, it makes sense why dating an inexperienced person be appealing if you are inexperienced yourself. Help each other learn together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:46 PM
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I feel we must take cultural norm into account. I am Indian, and even though not raised in a super conservative family, in fact my parents are chill, I have noticed the vast majority of my Indian bros not start dating in high school and even some times after, compared to my white bros. It’s awkward for some reason almost implied you are not supposed to. But I noticed my white bro were encouraged to date early.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:39 PM
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I mean, there are girls who have years of experience that still fail to miss them. Right? So, is it only experience that teaches us or it is us learning to stay open to them. Why does your family insist you will get taken advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:31 PM
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I get that but do you learn these exclusively in relationship? Or are they mere applications of skills and wisdom learned more generally but applied in the context of relationships? I say this because I am training to be psychologist and I am learning these exact skills. I’ll give you rationing alone time and “we” time. It’s just, I have notice not having a relationship by 25 becomes a proxy for “has no skills” but it is possible it is a proxy for “had no chance”. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:27 PM
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25-28 is the deadline you gave yourself. Can I ask why you gave yourself that range?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:14 PM
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Can you tell me more about what feels weird to you? I also feel weird so I know what you mean but it’s a mystery why and what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:12 PM
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Are you a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:08 PM
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I respect your personal preference but I also don’t understand teaching required for a first relationship. Why is looked to be a bad thing? I am genuinely asking cause I don’t see the reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:07 PM
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“Puddle of a girl” that’s really funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:27 PM
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I find the difference in experience of being a guy vs a girl so fascinating. This one no one really talks about lol. Any, way, nice chat. I am going to get some sleep lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:06 PM
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Is that why girls feel they are going to piss their pant if they laugh to hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:58 PM
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Rare example of secondary school education actually being applied to really important real life stuff lol. I feel every dad (I guess parents) has to refresh their anatomy knowledge once they have a daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:55 PM
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Yoooo that’s wild. It’s self cleaning. I would have never even guessed that. Imagine all the things new dad have to learn when they have daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:49 PM
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So, you always feel teary eyed, but just down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:46 PM
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I sense you are understanding where I am coming from. It’s just so different and no asks. Like, I assume you guys have literally clean your insides. I mean we brush our teeth and all but I never even thought about cleaning my insides lol. Do you have to use a special soap? Or is the regular one okay? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:40 PM
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Someone was trying to compare it having a snot full nose. Are they right? Or not even close?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:34 PM
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Wouldn’t say need but I like the idea lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:32 PM
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Don’t believe the hentia? Not really that much? I am not saying it’s bad but just wild how the biology works that way. And I am not sure about the control cause guys can have way more control then they think. All you have to do start thinking about doing dishes or mowing the lawn during sex and that boy starts to go to sleep. Think erotic thoughts and it wakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:31 PM
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Right! Of course, if I just view from a guy’s perspective it normal. But, if you let that go, and just observe it objectively, it gets very freaky very quickly lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:23 PM
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I don’t think that comparable lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:19 PM
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Do you think snot compares to wetness it can get down there? In my experience-sometimes-there is no comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:16 PM
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Shocked probably might have not been the right word. But surprised definitely. I mean, have ever experienced a body part stretching and shrinking, in a matter of seconds. Or experienced change in density of bio material at will of your mind’s control?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:13 PM
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Yup, it was. I over estimated her description of what was going down there. Some times it catches you off guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:04 PM
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It becomes normalised after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:56 AM
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Really? Not even a little bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:53 AM
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Right? I am not weird for getting at least a little bit shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:52 AM
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Yes, and also how little it can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:45 AM
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Idk, it’s just, wouldn’t you be surprised if you bleed from the genital in semi regular fashion? Imagine if one day I started bleeding from my nose and learned I would bleed every few months. I would be a bit shock at what is happening, and be asking what is this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:44 AM
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Genuine question, can you control the wetness with your mind. Cause, us guys can control the arousal of our thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:37 AM
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Not sure, but it freaked me out-a little. Just never though a part of body could collect that much moisture. Not one you can access without medical instruments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:35 AM
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Still, the extent it can get wet must be surprising. And also do you have control over it, or you get no say in the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:22 AM
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Girls how does it not freak you out how wet it can down there?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:11 AM
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That very stoic like. Don’t desire what is not under your control lest you fail to achieve or you achieve lest you didn’t want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:34 AM
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Those are some great options. Hey, let me respond to them in greater attention soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:14 PM
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It’s the how that is important, for sure, but that is exactly what I am saying. Sometimes the how that is produced is in fact biased and distorted and not in service of our overall wellbeing. We can ‘supply’ the same how over and over again without being aware we are actually doing it. Hence, my example of the count jester.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:09 PM
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Free in this sense is taking back of your agency. So, you know how for some people-me included-chocolate has a binding effect. Whenever I drive past the super market, I get a strong craving. This is not just “oh chocolate would be nice right now” but rather narrowing of the possible future to only “I need chocolate right now”. In some sense, I am imprisoned by my desire to have chocolate to the point that not having is not possible, even though, I might not want it and I know it is bad for me. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:00 PM
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I think Hollywood is pretty woke and blue pilled. That topic might not pass through their barrier of what is acceptable. Maybe? Plus, it’s not really funny of a topic. I don’t know why though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:29 AM
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Hi, thanks for responding. Actually something did! I am nodding off. Sleep takes the feels away. Maybe we can chat some other time?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:03 PM
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True. But it’s an interesting development in myself life. I am still figuring out the landing the job part. But maybe that not entirely up to me. It’s her decision at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:44 PM
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True. My tact is to tease and goof around. But I guess, now humour is opening doors to sexual tension. But that’s probably why I get shy. Or maybe uncomfortable is probably the better word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:34 PM
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Hot aliens? As in those blue people from Avatar? They have the height and the body but money wise I not sure. Might have to comprise a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:31 PM
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Dolls. Huh? I am not sure what to think about that lol. You have elaborate more. Hey, thank you for chatting with me. It truly helped. And I would love to continue our conversation. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:26 PM
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I’ll have a look thx.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:23 PM
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What about if you are funny? You make them laugh and get shy when they laugh. Do you know what I am talking about? Like, you didn’t think they would laugh but they do and now you feel wtf, things aren’t happening according to my model of world. But I guess it’s good, but my still prediction is off so I am uncertain and anxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 05:22 PM
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What erotic fiction are you referencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:55 PM
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I feel chubby girl don’t get their due. I have had one of best few nights of my life with them. I wonder why? Having a hot body doesn’t automatically mean someone would be hot in bed. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:46 PM
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Wait I have dog. I feel since getting him a decent part of existence has been beholden to him. Walks and scratches and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:42 PM
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Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:36 PM
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Yeah reading it difficult. Sometimes I will be stuck on the same four pages for days, till it finally clicks. Plato was right, it’s a slow crawl out of the cave for sure. Art director sounds very interesting. What has captured your particular interest at the moment? I am just graduated from a bachelor in psychology. I am looking into becoming a clinical psych in future. And maybe a researcher down the line. I am currently working as a crisis supporter (suicide prevention hotline and stuff), so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:34 PM
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Wanna swap place lol. I would love to pick apples and ride boat and do other white people things right about now. Like, fly fishing sounds good 😆.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:24 PM
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How can someone act more ‘physically attractive’ now that they have gotten more ‘physically attractive’?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:16 PM
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That sounds like a nice present for a birthday. So about my interests. I like reading books. And writing. I am currently really in philosophy right now. Not very knowledgeable on it but current reading about history of “causation” and how our understanding shifts through out the centuries. I am into yoga. Currently trying to increase my an hand stand time. It’s kill me seeing other 50 plus years old ladies out last me lol. What about yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:07 PM
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This is the first time I am using this. Not really sure how exactly. But I guess, I am currently just feel that reverberating pain-heart ache I guess-and just thinking about how I cannot see why a girls would like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 04:01 PM
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Hi, hru? Sure. You wanna go first?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:54 PM
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Weird request, currently struck by a crazy wave of loneliness. Anyone up for a chat till this passes over? Ummm…I know this is a debate sub but as the I mentioned I am just experiencing a crazy wave of loneliness. I already went for a run and tried concentrating on sleeping, but no luck. This is a strong one lol. I am currently battling the thoughts of being alone and never finding anyone. I feel I am convincing myself to opt out of dating. Which, regardless of whatever side of the argument you …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:40 PM
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The terminology is tough cause people rarely have the relevant background knowledge to make sense of these words. People can’t figure out where you are coming from, cause they don’t know the worldview that philosophy developed from. But, acting out Stoicism or conversing in a platonic dialogue allows me to scratch that itch without boring the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:27 AM
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It’s horrifying that I know what those words mean 😂. I feel my interest in philosophy accompanies the types of questions pop into to head. Rather than taking about philosophy I am learning to talk of philosophy. I feel people enjoy it when you take away the big abstract words and talk about concrete examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:17 AM
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Whether I make a good partner is also something that is stopping me. But I am realising it a skill that is learned by doing it. If feel messing up and fixing and maturing might be the way to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:10 AM
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I spent most of time listen to audiobooks and reading books. I am really into study philosophy at the moment, so it’s on mind a lot. I have to be careful not to force talking about even though I really really excited about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:05 AM
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Awesome question. Properly dating meaning, giving it an honest attempt. So, numbers might not properly capture because you could learn nothing confirming your own bias regardless of how many date you go on. So, I mean, properly like how you learn to cook dish. The first few attempts are going to be garbage, but every attempt you are getting a better and better understanding of how to cook it. I know, I didn’t give it an honest attempt because I didn’t actually try to understand how dating actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:42 AM
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Hmmm..I might on same trajectory as you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:34 AM
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It’s good you can see your own fault in what you are going through at the moment, but can it really be entirely your fault. I mean, the whole process of dating, especially decision matrix around sexual attraction, have been shaped by evolutionary pressure of our species, way way before we as individuals were born. In some sense, we are thrown into it and left to make the most of what we can make most of. Also, we are perennially blind our bias. Our blindness is unknown to us. Now, imagine a kid.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:29 AM
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Do you find yourself getting bored also? I get bored talking about trivial things in trivial ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:10 PM
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Hey, man I am glad to see that you are trying a new approach. Keep trying man, there is value in trying to you, even if you feel it has no value to women. Good luck. Keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:57 AM
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Holy Shit man. This sounds fucking rough. I realise I am have no right to judge your life, but going through that requires strength man. Your are strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:12 AM
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I am still figuring out what I find attractive about myself, but so far, I realised that I find my curiosity attractive. I would say I have low self-esteem, for no real good reason. I have qualities that I find unattractive. The top ones bing excessively harsh on myself, being to pessimistic, and not letting care for me. I never had a gf but the feedback I got from my previous FWB was I should trust in myself more, which I am starting to understand a bit more. Honestly, I probably wouldn’t date …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:32 AM
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Exactly, it is difficult to boil them down to a set of feature list. For example, being kind looks very different under different circumstances and situations and when target different people and beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:36 AM
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Marketing skills, that is a good idea. I guess I should sharpen my marketing skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:26 AM
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True, I would never let my child chase a rabbit across the field and my munch him. I do let my dog. The boy needs to release some steam sometimes. Sorry, I was try to be funny. I just thought of a better way of wording it: “cougar collecting her cubs”. Anyway 😅.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:24 PM
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Post wall?? Are you are milf? Milf collecting her cubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:10 PM
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If only I could access my “attribute window” lol. It just keeps saying “error”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:07 PM
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Why do you say it’s stupid? To me you are meeting up with people to have a interesting conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:02 PM
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You kind a lost me on this one haha 😅. But I think growth, evolution, healing are change, but a type of change that is toward living better. If you have the time, read one of Seneca’s letters. It may amuse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:51 PM
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No I mean typically things were somewhat in smaller communities. What is Sex Tourism?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:44 PM
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I guess, it’s hard to describe. But I listen to them and then I notice what they saying but have left unsaid. What they are asking for or want rather than merely saying what I want to say. Which quickly becomes a feedback loop where we are both hearing what each other is asking for. Idk, What would you call this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:42 PM
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I don’t quite under what you meant by fulfil the function that they are seeking. I mean what is the function of romantic partner? Can you explain some more?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:28 PM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:18 PM
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Hmmm…you do bring up a good point. I did instinctively start writing arguments against you (lol) but that tells me this is something I have to investigate a bit more. I wouldn’t go far as to say terrible though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:17 PM
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Wow! That was beautiful written. I got the sense that I was reading one of Seneca’s letters. Was that intentional? I felt better after reading it. Thank you. I do agree, there is a blind eye given to what it to being with someone and a ridged focus on what someone has. But yeah, those who hear the music don’t say or describe but find themselves dancing. What is mine is to simply keeping singing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 01:04 PM
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Yes physically appearance is judge first but the judging that happen is geared towards a different purpose. I don’t think you can escape being judged for your appearance, but in the dating world there are more harsher standards applied, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:42 PM
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But now it’s online and global and geared towards making certain groups of people money. It’s not about matching suitable people to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:39 PM
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That is frightening when you put it like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:37 PM
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Interviews sound ideal but they come after the swipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:34 PM
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That is precisely the issue here. Many of my friends and colleagues-and even strangers have told me that they felt wonder and aww when talking to me. These are experiences that words cannot do them justice. They enjoy my company. But I cannot describe what it is like to be with me in words, well I kind of did but… I am sure you are not convinced. I just don’t have the hight, or the face, or the body (not yet), and will have a good job in 2-3 years after finishing my masters, possibly PhD. Edit: …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:32 PM
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I wasn’t clear enough in my wording. You can “have” a gf or “be” a bf. I was just highlighting how people can mutually agree on having the status of bf/gf but not act with each others as gf/bf-as intimate partners who love each other. Seeking would trying to fill a “lack” by having a gf/bf vs being would be to simply being on date for the enjoyment of it. Having is doing something as means to an end vs being is doing something for the means itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:34 PM
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Hey, I also volunteer at a crisis and I have had similar experiences. People have asked for my name and number. I guess there is different between “having” a bf/gf vs “being” connected. The former is purchasing ownership of something and the later is relating to someone without taking ownership of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:14 PM
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Thanks for that. I was curious what is like for women when they interact with people of different attractiveness. I know what it is like for me and also other guys, but women’s perspective is a mystery. I am just fascinated by how others experience reality. Wanted to see how it differs from my experience. I found it really interesting how anxiety is experienced differently for us when in presence of attractive people. You feel intimidated and kept it brief and lighthearted but also experience a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:23 AM
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Hey, I love your enthusiasm. It’s the most in-dept answer I got. Thank you for sharing. Give me some time to reply to it properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:43 AM
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What causes you to be quite and shy? The context is good point. What about an attractive stranger btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:13 PM
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Really, that is so different from my experience. That’s very interesting. I can also recognise but I guess that I do feel a “pull”. Sometimes I just let it sit and then it goes away lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:09 PM
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The more you find common interests the more you find them attractive, which in turn, interaction become more animate and lively. Hmm..I guess my question did say attractive person, and not person you find attractive. Would you experience of interaction change if they are attractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:03 PM
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So, you find yourself being anxious about you possibly having to hurt his feelings? And that spirals into panic attack. That’s rough. I too hope you can be more at ease. How do you hope to become more at ease?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:58 PM
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You causation is warranted. When you said attractiveness doesn’t play a role in how you respond? I understand where you are coming. When I am talking to a hot chick, I can, in some sense, become aware of the ‘pull’ and ‘pressure’ and become indifferent to it. So, am attending to what she is saying and doing. But I recognise a change in state, have you experienced anything like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:51 PM
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What do you find wired about the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:41 PM
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I understand that others interact in a diverse ways, but I am curious how you find yourself acting differently in the presence of different level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:47 PM
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Amen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:34 PM
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If I could move your comment to top I would. This is one of wisest and most refreshing responses I have read. Marrying not only for yourself but for the child as well. I wish the best on your efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:16 PM
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I second that dads have a responsibility to teach boys to be men. But, unfortunately, boys tend to lose their way when no father figure or mentor figure in the picture. So, it precisely the boys who lack a father figure that need support. But I see where you are coming from. It would be very awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:08 PM
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I am sorry for your loss. She sounds awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:55 PM
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That’s a really good point. It lays a good foundations for them. Protect them against insecurities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:29 PM
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I think having a mentor is also a big part of it. Knowing some care is good enough for most guys to take up the challenge own their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:24 PM
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Good list thx
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:22 PM
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Fitness is a good point. I did regret not lifting in high school. Just running around on the tennis court wasn’t enough lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:21 PM
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Did it prepare him for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:01 PM
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Haha no, I want to want you to do what you believe is good for your son. But, let’s hypothetically assume someone doesn’t have a good father, what would you advice them to do to prepare their son?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:58 PM
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So helping them build a habit of cleanliness, good communication skills, and maintaining boundaries and respect. To me, it seems to been effective, I mean the majority are successful. What were reasons for teaching them those and not somethings else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:53 PM
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Do mean running a random number generator or going of by gut feeling?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:52 PM
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Yeah second that. I am seeing the effects of it now as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:50 PM
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So helping them build a habit of cleanliness, good communication skills, and maintaining boundaries and respect. To me, it seems to been effective, I mean the majority are successful. What were reasons for teaching them those and not somethings else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:46 PM
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I totally agree is complicate, but that’s why I asked for the three you found were the most important to you. Otherwise it becomes to board to answer. What would be your three most important?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:36 PM
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Yeah same with my parents. But I didn’t expect them to because they are kinda cold to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:32 PM
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What kind of good traits where you thinking of? And how would raise him to build those traits? Maybe, what are the three most important traits you would help him build?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:23 PM
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I think what you are doing makes a lot of sense. Understanding how to keep friends and make new one is so central for living a good life. It hurts me when I see parents, excessively and unthinkingly, hypnotise their kids with IPads and videos games. And good job for doing your best. That’s what every kid ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:22 PM
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You are right, it is their choice but the question was targeting parents that would or have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:15 PM
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I think that’s a wise thing to do. Plus, underage drinking has been correlated with better social outcome. I think it was said to be sign of independence and autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:12 PM
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So, building a structure where he learns to develop social skills and learns how to be a friend. Is having him in multiple extracurricular activities and sports, so he gets exposed to a varied sample of kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:07 PM
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Parties and hanging out are great. And I think everyone gets to experience sneaking a drink at least once lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:02 PM
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What kind of social exposures did you have in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 12:50 PM
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I know there is correlation between being a noteworthy guy and not being a virgin or struggling with dating. But if you had to measure a guy’s character and worth, would you only use whether virgin or degree of struggles with dating as a characteristic feature of good character? Plus how do you become a noteworthy man? Do you need women affirmation to verify you are? Or can you stand being noteworthy without their affirmation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:24 AM
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Could I ask why you strongly disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:38 AM
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It’s funny you noticed the Stoic strand in my reasoning, because I actually practice and study Stoicism. I do agree, it’s rational to strive for goodness despite what life throws at you. Things that happen in life are running on their own chains of cause-effect. You don’t have control over whether they happen or not happen, if the relevant reasons are present or satisfied it will come into existence. But on the same token what you do have control over is how you judge a event and how you react t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:21 AM
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Thank you, I am just trying to help in anyway I can. I think you might be onto something. It’s as if people have abstracted away so much that they live in their theory more than their life. If only goal of life is to outcompete and leave behind offspring then life would become so boring and one-directional.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:27 AM
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Hey, good on you for working on yourself and changing your life for the better. I sure it wasn’t easy trying to accept your mental illness and still aiming for the good. It’s never easy in my experience, but it is fulfilling to work towards something that is larger than you. And I am sure the people who visit the meme page appreciate your work. You understood my point perfectly. I also dabbled in the hook up culture, but I found myself lying and pretending to like someone just so I can get sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:53 AM
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I mean yeah, and I was pointed out just focus on doing what is under your control completely and earnestly. If you go to gym make sure you put in honest effort and don’t give up too early.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:25 PM
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Well alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:18 PM
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What do you mean by body positivity leftist? Could you tell me how it reeks of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:13 PM
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My point was it is not entirely indicative of yourself worth. And “fitness” is not a measure of worth but ability to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:08 PM
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Yeah loving themselves feels like telling them something to shut them up. But what I am saying is if you have value else where in life don’t trivialise that, and be careful of using these broad labels “low quality” or “failure”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:56 PM
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I hear you, and I have experienced the same. But I realise we have to actively combat it and keep this at bay. You know? To tell it stay where it supposed and not touch anything else that doesn’t concern it. There are psychological techniques to combat rumination that can help us to be more mentally healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:49 PM
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Well alright, I am not sure why you would think no women has liked me. But what you said is what my point was precisely. How can you say society sees me as worthless, when the person on the other end of the phone were deeply grateful that I was their to hear their pain and genuinely connected with them? I have many of these experiences, so many that I cannot claim society sees me as worthless, because the people who make it up, or at least some sub section of them, do? But this dating thing can …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:46 PM
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Why would I have no value as a male of the human species, if I am valuable as a friend, and family member. I think good friends are rare to come by and we-or at least me-seem what being a shitty family member does to the people around them. My point was to delimit the boundary of “low value” to only dating, and if there is genuine value else where please not to trivialise it. It sets up a toxic downward spiral in your late teens and 20s, so by the time they are reach 30s the resentment is all ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:27 PM
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50 rejections and 1000 hours of gym is a good effort. You tried and 1000 hours is like 1.5 years worth of hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:21 PM
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Why would it be meaningless, and unenjoyable if every pull of the bow gave you a nugget of wisdom that helped you become that tiny bit better? I don’t know, it’s just a shift in thinking. I used to think like that about social interactions but it used give me so much anxiety and frustration because the interaction didn’t go as I wanted. But, then I stop trying to force a particular outcome and payed attention to gain more understanding of social interactions. Not gonna lie it was hard at first a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:08 PM
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Yup. That’s my point. But guys who whole hearted believe they are low status, or failure, or other such all or nothing labels have really hard time recognising they don’t themselves want to be in their company and they inadvertently set conditions that repulse other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:17 AM
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I wouldn’t say failed just yet, I have barely begun. But I am by no mean trying to push my agenda on you. We are free to choose who we want to be. But I couldn’t help notice, you sound depressed and exhausted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:12 AM
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I do agree with that. In fact, as hinted in my post, even I sometimes don’t think like this. But I know the difference in experience between this way thinking and the way people generally think. Holy shit, that way is just not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:03 AM
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Would you love yourself for something else than? Maybe not getting rejected but some else? What my point was that become all encompassing. The thought “I am failure for not having a relationship or sex” can pester us to no end. But it also to realise that you don’t have experience life inside this framework all the time. Maybe it good for us to re-ignite the self-love even momentary. And like someone who has chronic pain, if you cannot get rid of the most courageous and noble choice is to live a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:51 AM
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I would be upset to if I tried to fill lack of relationship with something else. But if you can, could you put that aside for a second. Just out of hands reach for a second and just let it sit there. Now, Is anything else that interests you at the degree getting into a relationship interest you? Maybe not something to fill the hole made by lack of relationships but something that fills the hole made for specifically for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:43 AM
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I do like peace. It’s rarely appreciated till you have experienced it and see it being taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:37 AM
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Hmmm alright, still don’t how what I wrote is blue pilled. But do notice that people who don’t know your dating history are oblivious to your “low status”. Case in point me. I can’t read your mind. But that is something only you are privy to. But I can tell you haven’t understood my point of view and you are adamant to push it on me. People who see themselves as worthless don’t show people their reasons they think that and others cannot see them. But others can see you carry yourself as such so …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:36 AM
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The last paragraph is pointing out that if something happened, it was caused because the reasons for it happening were present or satisfied. The project of science is based on the assumption that universe is rational, that is, it unfolds by a underlying logic and reason. Notice how what you write is essentially “this cause this, which causes this and so on so forth”. Other reactions are not under you control, do you have perfect wisdom of the cause-effect link between your actions and your desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:26 AM
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Wait why would want to stop coping? Anyway, low status…but does that mean no value? That is, I am worthless, valueless, having nothing to contribute? That I should have to carry myself as worthless because I don’t have a bunch of women at my arm. Does that seem reasonable? Also, I am not knowledgeable about the blue pill? Could you tell me how its a blue pill take? What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:03 AM
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Yes but you aren’t entirely devoid of value if don’t bring the ones that women want, or even a particular women want. That was more of my point is just because you are “low value” under this framework don’t extend it to the whole of your being. That’s what I was trying to point out with my anecdote; the person who was suicidal and other callers found my skills, therefore, me valuable. Now maybe that doesn’t help the sexual domain but still lets create some boundaries to what is being defined as …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:49 AM
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But I feel we buy into it. It’s doesn’t have to be but other people act as it does so we end up doing it to. But does it actually make sense for that be a measure of worth? Maybe it is for the women selecting but for the one being selected it’s one among the array of others that she doesn’t find relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:12 AM
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So,why assume such and such is valuable when it is ultimately doomed for failure. I do have to respectfully disagree with this position. Firstly, I don’t fully understand so ignorance on my part. But for me, the outcome is not under my control. For example, if you are shooting a target with a bow and arrow, the arrow is reaching its target is not under my control per say. It depends on on the the relevant reasons being present such that the outcome is caused into being. But what I have control o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:02 AM
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Do mean the whole framing of “I am valuable because I can get laid” is erroneous? I don’t quite follow what you mean by “absurdist” and “inherent failure to pursue”. I guess the value being provided in the game is “social proofing”-other girls have liked him so he can’t be that bad. Which…also has its flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:28 AM
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Thank you, I think it’s important because I see so many who do this to themselves. Me included. But I don’t think they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:16 AM
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I am not sure if I see how this relevant to the point I made. Could you tell how this is related to what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:14 AM
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You put it very well. I never connected the dots but I have met few who do get freaked out if they find out someone is virgin. I have met some that automatically start to act morally superior to them, which is so unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:08 AM
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Ah, you put it very clearly. I can see where this line of reasoning is coming from. It’s just women option dwindles as they grow old, since competition against young women becomes more intense and also men’s drive for sex declines, what happens then? Do…you just get a lot of lonely men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:59 AM
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Yes, exactly, you totally get it!. Thank for interpreting my point charitably. The sexual compatibility is very good point. I can totally see how that could be a red flag, especially since having mismatched sex drives is a source of significant suffering in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:53 AM
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What would being a virgin mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:48 AM
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Are there insults and teasing valid? If so why are they valid or invalid?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:44 AM
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Maybe, but emotional responses are tied to our appraisal of the situation. If being a virgin overshadows other good qualities in the guy well, then both lose. Not every emotional response is best for us, sometimes we do have critically evaluated when our emotional response is unreasonable. But, I do see your point. If the women have other options where they don’t get that feeling then it makes sense. But there is a need to consider it as a red flag in the context of his other qualities and how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:32 AM
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Hmmm…I personally would be happy if some who doesn’t care about reason rejected me. I wouldn’t have dodge the bullet but dodged getting shot at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:41 AM
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I totally get that it’s a red flag. But isn’t the power of red flag in it ability to systematically predict other red flags. Basically, if he is virgin then he is also likely he is socially awkward, immature, toxic, and so on and so forth. But what if you can judge that he is not, you can see it. How reliable is it now? And would its reliability matter less and less as the years rack up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:38 AM
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Why isn’t the reason important?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:28 AM
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And yet there is variation, and life doesn’t care whether something is lost. And who is to say certain trajectories taken are natural given the circumstances in which they emerged. There are certain options that are just not available for some people. In some cases it was not under their control, and so they fall short of normal standard but what if they still did the best they could in their circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:26 AM
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That’s a solid attitude to have. It allows us to leave what we think we like at the door and actual start to discover what we actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:20 AM
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There are some who definitely get envious but their envy rests of the belief that sex is something of profound value. But sex for the sake of sex is meaningless. It’s no different from training for the sake of training. I think it not the act of sex, or in fact, act of losing virginity that is important but what it supposedly represents: “I am eligible candidate”. But women don’t decide whether you are an eligible candidate rather decide you are an acceptable candidate for them, not for all wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:16 AM
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But then its unreasonable to imply there is something wrong with them. Wrong circumstances can lead to less than ideal outcomes, even without the person having something wrong. Right? What if the person finally sets ups or discovers the right circumstances at, let’s say in his mid-20s, is it right judge him so harshly for things that were out of his control?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:49 AM
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Would it been seen as a failure in the eyes of women (and men) who don’t subscribe to such notions? In that case, the failure is judgement based on an assumed standards by a certain percentage of women, but not all women. It’s just that I have seen guys be so down on themselves for being failures because it didn’t happen by such and such time. They lose hope, instead of just getting better. Hell, I believed it till I lost it and then I realised how pointless beating myself over it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:05 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:54 AM
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Well you want hope the guy is an enthusiastic student even if you don’t want to be a teacher. Imagine having someone who is unwilling to learn what and how to actually satisfy you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:53 AM
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But what if he was socially awkward and things like that but now has improved, but is still a virgin? How much does it matter now? Or is his virginity a mark that signals “there is something that I cannot see yet”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:41 AM
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Yes, but losing virginity for the sake of losing virginity seems unnecessary to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:36 AM
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I agree. It makes more sense to ask why they are inexperienced rather then presume it must be something wrong with them, which could be the true, but requires verification.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:33 AM
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Oh! The sex drive is good point. This kinda supports by thinking that is when someone’s say such and such is wrong, you should further ask wrong to whom. Cause I can imagine a guy who is virgin because he just doesn’t care about sex that much being a negative for women who have high libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:27 AM
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Hey! The size of my nose is perfectly fine (jokes). Yeah, that makes sense, but I have noticed girls actually fall prey to it. I remember when I would stupidly and innocently tried to be honest about my inexperience, girls would suddenly lose some attraction, like it was a negative they had to just accept. But what’s funny there was no significant difference between me before and me after losing my virginity. But I guess, I ticked some sort of box.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:22 AM
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Right. This logic fails to hold water for men who don’t satisfy those two assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:13 AM
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How would they know that other women don’t deem some guy attractive? And also, what kind of “other women” is she imagining? Are they a group that hold the same preferences as her or a group that hold different preferences. And is it judgment on the guy’s current attractiveness or past attractiveness? You know, there are a lot of things being assumed here. Edit: I think you are right it depends, but to me the whole emphasis on losing one virginity seems misplaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:01 AM
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That’s great to see your daughter is doing well. I wonder, what do think lead to the difference in dating experience between you and her?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:27 PM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:23 PM
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Does have any other father figures he looks up to? Fictional or Non-fictional?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 09:21 PM
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I cannot imagine. Watching someone you love walk towards a terrible future is heartbreaking. But I have to commend your efforts. You care and are still trying. It matters, cause some mothers don’t even. What have you tried to help them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:34 PM
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You know what I kinda have something similar. I am Indian but dating an Indian girl would be near the bottom of preference too. I find I am a foreigner to my own culture, unfortunately. What were you having mixed feelings about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:26 PM
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Those signs would worry me too. Although I am not a parent. I do have a dog though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:20 PM
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It’s great that you are paying attention to how they are adjusting socially. Good on you. Btw, what would worry you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:08 PM
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They are accepted and well liked by their peers, and are good at managing social relationships. And so hopefully the foundation is set for dating to sort it out? Did I get you right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:35 AM
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What was it like for you when they had disjappointmenting experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:05 AM
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That’s wholesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:46 AM
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I am not sure what you meant by social circles are going. Can you tell me more?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:45 AM
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I am sorry 😨. Anything but tickles
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:21 AM
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I’m Australian, it’s the same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:57 AM
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Dude, you are terrifying. I promise I won’t. Please don’t make me play hide and seek with my shoes 😰.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:56 AM
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I only drink once every couple of weeks and mostly with friends. That happened 5 years ago when I just turned 18 and it was only my third time ever drinking. It’s typical me who takes upon the nanny duty cause I get sober up really quick for some reason. But thank you for your concern though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:09 PM
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I don’t think it really bothered me. Haven’t looked into relationship between alcohol and erection. Unsure what effects would be biological vs psychological or mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:53 PM
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Are you describing a framework? You do have point. I am assuming it’s mixed company. I don’t think I have ever been in purely women company, let alone drunk. Unless you count yoga but of course never drunk lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:49 PM
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That makes sense. Communication is already hard enough, adding alcohol to it wouldn’t help. Actually maybe adding a shot or two is plenty helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:15 PM
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Really? Can you please elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:57 PM
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Dam only drunk can we ever champ that unhealthy amount of rejection. Being that drunk is the same as giving our Id unrestricted access to our body. Sometimes the Id is good and on our side..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:53 PM
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Very likely lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:46 PM
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See that’s also another thing that I hate about drunk hookups. I would hate to hook up with someone who didn’t know they actually didn’t like me till the morning after. That’s fucks both people up psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:45 PM
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That’s good to know. I was going more from the psychological angle. The lack of certainty and the slipperiness of “what if I was” or “ Oh fuck did I actually” is deteriorating for most men and women. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:37 PM
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I agree. When I thought about drunk hookups in some dept, I realised they are inherently problematic. Plus, it was the comment sections of those posts that kinda gave me anxiety. I muted them for my own sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:29 PM
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I don’t think most men would assume the situation as rape. Because they probably be reluctant to interpret it that way. But what if there is evidence for unwanted sexual acts have happened, let’s say pegging when that is not his thing, what then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:20 PM
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Yeah. True. One time I was at my friend’s house party. It was right after exams, so I went a bit ham. The last thing I remembered was talking with boys and than waking up in my my friend’s bed with my shoes off and a blanket over me. I must have fallen asleep and they just tucked me in, but I remember still feeling uneasy about not knowing what happened in the gap between.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:12 PM
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I am not sure what you mean. Can you tell me more?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:03 PM
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What a life lesson to learn. Good on you for taking it as opportunity to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:56 PM
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It would be interesting to compare the percentages with below average and above average attractive men. I assume the raw number would be low since most below average attractive men have low chance of hooking up. I should add young men in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:49 PM
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Luckily I have avoided them or they avoided me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:42 PM
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I can see where you coming from. But there is fun alcohol allows that I haven’t learned to experience without it. Maybe one day I won’t need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:40 PM
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That’s terrible man. Jesus, the dread of having your life upside down. I have heard similar stories from some of my friends-mostly attractive friends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:28 PM
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Yeah, true. Small amount of alcohol is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:19 PM
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That would be an awesome way to go out lol. But if I was asleep would I be conscious of my death or the meteor? Assume I am the heaviest sleeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:11 PM
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I see. So, everyone should be held equally responsible for themselves. Did I get you right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:09 PM
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Wait why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:05 PM
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All fair points. But I am not comparing between male and female. I was comparing safety within males from the messiness of drunk hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:02 PM
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I found that to be true as well. We somehow learn to find proper balance between them, not too little but not too much. Thanks for invite. You sound like a fun person to talk to. Btw, I love “quiet confidence”, I found courage to be the same. I found courage to be more of an awkward stumble through fear than a valiant charge. True moments of courage are rarely flash, they are often mundane and unassuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:04 AM
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Congratulations first of all. It’s almost like you made each other more significant to one another as you traveled in life towards a shared destination. It’s such a different notion of relationship, it’s quite refreshing actually. I don’t actually understand what I just wrote but the shared vision part seems beyond my grasp at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:42 PM
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Would you consider them insecurities or anti-social traits: narcissism, sadism, and so on? Like, difference between a predatory person vs a flawed person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:32 PM
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That is the most painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:27 PM
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It’s hard to hit all the muscle groups. I going the pace I continue to lift. Take time build the tissue tolerance. The abd/add are important for savings yourself from injuries. Although, I frequently ignore them lol. Kettle bells swing are good enough to work them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:23 PM
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Maybe. But I hope I can become wise enough to discover people that place helping bring out the better in each other as one of highest value at the root of the relationship. This might be idealistic and dumb but hopefully there are some other people who also find the practice of mutual betterment equally satisfying as I do. It’s honestly often not even something big for the person helping, few encouraging words can go a long way. The best is when people just shown genuine curiosity in your affair…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:19 PM
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Well, that sounds a bit too much from me honestly. But I also don’t know where you have been and are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:54 PM
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Nice, I am currently on a hypertrophy block, so I have hit each major leg muscle group 10-12 sets. It’s moderate weight but high reps. I am happy it’s nearly over lol. I cannot wait to go back to long rest intervals and low reps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:41 PM
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Maybe they do. But do my legs like squats, leg presses and lunges…not sure on that. Somedays maybe lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:25 PM
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I am glad to hear it worked out. Thx.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:08 PM
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Totally understandable. You are past that stage and looking for people who are too. Good on you for working hard on yourself. But, just wondering how much do you charge per session? Sorry. jokes, it was just sitting right there in-front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:05 PM
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You couldn’t have put it any better. It’s painful when someone can’t look past the insecurities, to whatever good is sitting beside it. But someone that tries to understands is enough honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:56 PM
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I don’t doubt it all. It’s just from the place I am looking at they just seem hotter. Must be a trick of perspective or something lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:43 PM
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That has been the experience of some of my girl-friends. They talked about, but most stopped when they reach 25-26 years of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:38 PM
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Dam, it’s winter over here, jumper covers even the arms. That only leaves legs..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:33 PM
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I get sense you are saying loyalty is established no on current value and money and stuff but from some other fulfilment, at least for the guy, I guess. But maybe there is time where you have stop looking over the shoulder to the next person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:29 PM
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Thx man for encouraging words man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:17 PM
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True. You kinda statistically controlled for work-in-progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:09 PM
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I see. Insecurity has run rampant all over their character. There is a little bit of it everywhere in them. I feel I need to update my marketing policies, I am not that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:51 PM
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That makes more sense. I guess it does depend on the women picking for person to grow together with, rather than picking for the greatest value. I assume the latter one is already well established and is looking someone also well-established, the former is probably recent uni graduate, looking for some to establish a future with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:46 PM
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The classic catch 22. There is no winning just probability of little less regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:35 PM
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Don’t use insecurities as excuses for dysfunction rather accept and adapt. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:27 PM
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I am starting to like girls who like abs more than girls who like lats. They simply seem to be…hotter lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:22 PM
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Thx. Appreciate it. Getting hamstring cramps are part of running I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:12 PM
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Thx that was very kind. I realised that self-love wasn’t the same as narcissism, which is a kind a toxic admiration that is empty of anything true. But self-love is being grateful for the labour and courage it took for your past self to bring you future self into the present you. They are “worse” than me now, but I stand on top of their effort, which deserves respect. That was helpful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:06 PM
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Yeah…true, kinda, sometimes. But I do wonder if you could lust the most over the one you loved. What happened then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:54 PM
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Oh I see, because he starts to get attention from hotter women…..huh? Maybe I am too naive in my thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:51 PM
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Dude are you football coach? That was good locker room speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:44 PM
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Insecurity as character trait? Not sure what you meant by that? Can you tell me more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:36 PM
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Dammit. I should’ve done more dead-lifts. Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:30 PM
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I hear you it awful to get discarded. But how can someone not be loyal to the person who helped you realise your better self? I thought that was the definition of a loving relationship. Both helping to better each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:23 PM
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Basically understanding that getting rejected doesn’t mean your chances for success is over. That must help with not taking the rejection personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:58 AM
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I had experiences from both perspectives, rejection by someone above my level and rejecting someone below my level. In the former, I was ghosted, and in the later, I ghosted. Both were unpleasant. This partial I wanted learn to do it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:55 AM
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Were there any times where you were 1-2 points below her attractiveness level? Or a more interesting question, were there time when you had to reject someone below you range? And how did you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:34 AM
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Is there a way that is better tho? Even slightly better than the worst?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:41 AM
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I get it. You can definitely make the pain by worse by over-generalising what the rejection says about you. Especially, when you are at the early stages of working through your insecurities. But, I find people are vulnerable when they are starting out, and by rejecting in a considerate fashion it kinda help them. Even slightly cushioning of impact kinda makes it more relaxing of a dating environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:40 AM
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I agree, ghosting is really bad. It activates our natural fear of being shunned by our fellow tribe. It also closes the door to any friendship or acquaintance-ship after. Although, if I realise the girl is shy or socially awkward or anxious, I feel less bad. I can understand, as bit of socially anxious person myself, she probably didn’t want to communicate that in that way. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:30 AM
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Non-committal replies?? What do you mean? Like ghosting?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:24 AM
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I totally agree. I thing most people kinda no the mating process is inherently painful process, not just for us humans but for rest of the animals too. Responses like “Eww” I feel are totally unnecessary if the person approaches in a respectful manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:22 AM
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Oh..yeah, telling no and than giving off subtle signals. Yeah that’s tricky. I am too dumb to decode those signals. If the girl said “no, I am not interested”, I just conclude its over, even if I sense we are flirting. It’s too confusing. But, when you are hit with “I am disgusted” or “know your place, pleb” type of rejections. It’s brutal strike to your self-esteem in the moment. Although, later they do make for some funny stories with boys. Thanks for sharing brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:17 AM
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Amen. A smooth, swift, and sharp rip off the Band-Aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:04 AM
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What is abundance mentality? Do you mean like empathy? Like taking the rejectee’s perspective. I have never heard of the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:02 AM
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It can see how asking “why” opens up a big conundrum, since you don’t know whether the other can handle the critique. But I actually like to hear the other person’s critique. Of course, I realise it can make some people uncomfortable, so I always preface with “if it’s not too uncomfortable, and you don’t have to if you are, but I am curious why…”or things of that nature. I am curious person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:29 AM
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Both of them are such considerate ways of rejecting. Clear, respectful, and the reasons given are honest too. I think there is something to pointing out that attraction is not totally under our volitional control. Sometimes the spark just isn’t there. And describing its as “unfortunate” is so good too, points out the absurdity of the whole mating thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:22 AM
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I think men already had something of body positivity movement before such a thing was called movement. Men, since the dawn of time, have been mocking and making fun of each other. It is how we bond, it is how we come to accept each other and help each other learn to accept ourselves. By bringing out the insecurities in our boys, we don’t let them hid it in dark where it festers and festers. We mock them, so they can defend themselves and slowly discover the value and goodness they were blind to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:22 PM
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Go full Schopenhauer 🤣 that kinda accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:54 PM
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This is dramatised in Stoner, book by John Williams. I have been in a relationship where I was not loved, but that sounds hellish. It like being with a husband that just pays the bills, looks handsome, and popular but doesn't care about the kids or fidelity of the relationship. Just hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:57 AM
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If I understood you correctly, you are as high or low as you last evaluation. Similar to how if a boxer lose a match his past 20 wins matter less than his last loss. How does a person learn from mistakes is there a punished for making them? Is that why thought of getting rejected by girls suddently become a overwhelming fear when guys reach puberty? That's pretty funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:48 AM
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So is status more fundamentally about what stories are told about you. Not only by word of mouth but how you how you dress, walk, talk and such and such. Is that why glory was so important back in the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:38 AM
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That is an interesting point. Status markers are elastic impressions instead of plastic traits. It is not something that you "have" per say, but something that is showns or expressed. Does that mean status is more about your ability to present than actual ability itself? But wait how do you tell what their standards are wouldn't it more fair if that was announced up front?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:31 AM
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Thank for sharing gu-girls. This is very insightful. From what I gathered, attraction is phenomenological different between men and women. It seems the initial flame of attraction sparked by physical attraction is less compelling or intense compared to men. The flame grows hotter and bigger as you get to know the person bit by bit, if they are good companion. I find it facinating that attraction grows in proportion to how good it feels to be around them. The slow drip of attraction probably expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 11:13 AM
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Haha that made chuckle 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 08:12 AM
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