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When I marry somebody, part of the reason will be because I’m physically attracted to her. So hot slut, hands down, no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:29 AM
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Probably the only reason I’d pick the older one is because I’m also in my late 20s and don’t see myself marrying younger. But to me these qualities don’t help me determine which woman is a better match.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:27 AM
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Any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 11:30 PM
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Your original comment was "how to be in a monogamous relationship," alluding to how to be a good husband/good wife. I don't think that's important. How to be a good person is, as my kids will not necessarily be getting married. It's likely, but not for certain. And again, I don't plan on withholding this information, but in terms of what I want to teach my children as they develop, how to be a husband or how to be a wife isn't high on my list. Usefulness is relative. As romance comes into play, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 11:27 PM
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Again, it's not a timing issue. It's like asking why I don't have time to teach my children about Russian cinema. It's not about making time for it, it's about what is important. Yes, I intend to teach my children how to respect others, how to treat their superiors and inferiors and equals, and other social advice. But I'm not going to prioritize how to be in a relationship, unless they ask. Life's success is not reliant on finding a husband or a wife. If my children wish to learn that, then the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 10:46 PM
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Being a wife or a husband isn't always going to be the goal for people, and it some cases won't be viable. I'd rather my children know how to find success in a career first and foremost. Marriage into success is never a guarantee, no matter how likeable you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 10:35 PM
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Because I don't feel it is as important. Time devoted to teaching them how to be a good husband or wife is always better spent on something else, in my opinion. It's not a time issue. It's just not something that I believe is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:45 PM
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If you're boiling it down to something like "job interviews are a competition," which I'm sure you're thinking of, then all people are competing. That's not unique to men. I do not actively compete, or take, or fight for what I want from other people. I don't actively seek out sex as much as I can. You're "man's nature" comment does not apply to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:44 PM
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I just don't consider teaching how to pursue a romantic relationship a priority in any sense. There is a lot more I wish to teach them (intellectual curiosity, personal and financial responsibility, etc.) before we get into how to land a husband/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:31 PM
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Yeah, still not what I'm about. I can get everything I want and need without taking it from someone else. I also can lead a very fulfilling life with what I have right now. I don't need more land or money to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 08:29 PM
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Yeah, as a man this sounds asinine. I love sex and will go for it when I can but I have no desire to “defeat” men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:44 PM
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The goal in raising my child is not necessarily to get them into a relationship, but to give them the tools to live a successful and fulfilling life. A relationship is not required for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 05:40 PM
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Oh boy. That’s just blatantly false. Number of partners does not change a person that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:49 PM
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You can’t just say you’re correct and have all these disqualifiers when you’re wrong. I’m not emotionally invested in anything other than you pretending to be some sort of psychic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:56 AM
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Wait, so incel is not getting sex as much as you want? Then probably 80-90% of all people are incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:55 AM
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Including dead bedrooms, still not a chance in hell. I’ll give you a generous 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:46 AM
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But, again, because you’re guessing. You don’t need to because you’re assuming, and the times when you’re wrong you just write it off as lying. You’re covering all your tracks so you’re never wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:46 AM
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My friends and I make those same jokes daily. Hell I’ve made the joke before on a similar thread. Sometimes people write funny things for upvotes. I’m not saying that all are jokes, obviously some people have trouble. But a lot of those people are just in it for karma.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 12:45 AM
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And men don't compete for the top 20% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:13 PM
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Not a chance on this earth is that true. You're saying that half of men are involuntarily celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:13 PM
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Where I live? Yeah that's far too personal for a cashier to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:05 PM
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Cashiers shouldn't ask grossly personal details of customers, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:02 PM
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How I love the top 20% comments. At least you haven't chipped that number down to 5 as many before you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:01 PM
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So, in short, you're guessing. And sometimes you're right, but most of the time you have no idea because she doesn't tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:01 PM
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Lot of false equivalencies here. Comparing sex to murder is a new one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 10:00 PM
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Average looking 20 something man here. It's a pretty common joke when you've had a dry spell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 09:59 PM
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I honestly don’t think I’ve agreed more with anything here, and i don’t agree with most of the things you write.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:13 PM
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Rejecting someone is nowhere near in line with wanting them to die. That’s such an asinine connection. You know those posts talking about lack of contact are mostly jokes right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:11 PM
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But it’s also because it shouldn’t happen between customers and cashiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 08:09 PM
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So you've asked these women what their n count is, and been close with your guess every time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 01:32 PM
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I just don't agree with that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 01:31 PM
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after about 5 minutes of conversation? easily. I encourage you to test this theory out. Because it's never as apparent as it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:16 PM
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I don't see how a high n count has anything to do with fidelity, but that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:16 PM
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I disagree, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:15 PM
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High n count does not have anything to do with fidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:15 PM
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I see. It "just does."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 08:03 PM
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Considering the data doesn't affect me, yeah, I don't see what's worth looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:52 PM
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I mean inability to be employed is a totally different ball game than "she's had sex before." If I'm getting along well with someone, their partner number wouldn't affect that at all. It doesn't change anything other than my perception of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:51 PM
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Nope. I think both scenarios are equally silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:47 PM
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For me, a person's ability to be my partner isn't affected by her n count though. I don't see those as relating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:47 PM
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It has no affect on biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:45 PM
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SUCKERS!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:43 PM
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Key phrase: “I’m afraid this is t going to work out" That's what it boils down to. No, she won't necessarily lose attraction to you, or cheat on you, you're just afraid she will. Which is fine, but that's all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:42 PM
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I mean if you want to put words in my mouth, go for it. But if you want to talk about "we men" be sure you're not already talking to another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:41 PM
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Looking at a partner, can you tell for certain how many people she's had sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:40 PM
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Well that's kind of what I'm getting at. People are different with different preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:40 PM
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How does it reveal incompatibility? I don't follow. Nothing should change other than perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:39 PM
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How does sex in the past affect commitment in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:38 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 07:37 PM
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How? I’ve been in several long term relationships without ever knowing the n count of my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:47 AM
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What I read says nothing about sex. You’re adding fake arguments. Where are you getting that couples have less sex when the man does housework?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:46 AM
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You can be confident in your preferences without trying to put some pseudoscience behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:44 AM
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Which is totally okay. The act of cheating won't make them more likely to do it again, but if that's not something you want to get into then great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:16 AM
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And this is a totally valid viewpoint. My original post may not have come out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:15 AM
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I've had friends get really dodgy because they've had sex with "a ton" of guys, and then their number is like 15. Though I guess technically that would add up to over a ton (in weight) of guys. (inb4 'wimmenz count have to multiply by three hurr durr')
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:14 AM
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Not the question. Are you, at all times, looking for a long term commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:12 AM
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I'm not saying anything about low n count men at all. I don't know why that's come into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:10 AM
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That's not what is being discussed at all. I'm not saying youu should always date high n count women. I'm saying to call it any more than a preference not to is just pseudo-science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:09 AM
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Okay but the fact is that this is not always true in life. If we're going to live our life on paper then yes your assertion is great. But we aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:08 AM
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I honestly don't think it's worth investigating, less than it's worth bringing it up to begin with. I've never talked about n count with a partner, and don't see what the need to is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:06 AM
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I wouldn't say so. Again, I come and go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:03 AM
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I'm not saying anything about the man. I'm saying in a case where everything is matched up fine, and people are compatible, would a high n count reveal throw a wrench in the relationship or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:02 AM
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I disagree. People can be in a space where they don't need commitment and not have an issue with it. Are you always looking to settle down or are there periods where you're fine being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:00 AM
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Sure, my point is that it's all based on a fear of something happening, rather than an objective assurance something will happen. What I'm saying is it's fine to have preferences, but don't go around saying "high n counts means this" when really it's just "I don't like high n counts."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 01:00 AM
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What makes you think that women with a high n count cannot bond with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 12:58 AM
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I'm saying that the n-count doesn't factor into what makes for a successful relationship, so any "risk" associated with it is cast aside for that reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:53 PM
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Well that all depends. All I'm remarking to are the posts that say to avoid high n counts for a relationship. I'm not someone who gives a shit about N count, so I'm not the one to ask, but I assume most people only care about PiV for the n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:51 PM
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I think this is based on fear and assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:50 PM
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There are many on TRP who say that women with a high n count should be avoided for relationships. If a woman has had less than 20 partners by the age of 25 she's basically a virgin. Fuck man I know a SHITLOAD of virgins then...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:49 PM
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What am I painting her as?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:48 PM
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On earth? Close to 30 years. On this sub? I've been coming and going for the past 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:47 PM
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Never said it was an argument. That's why I followed up with "That's just me." Then you will never base your relationship, or any other decision, on any data because you will never have 100% complete information. Correct! I don't base my relationships on data points. I base them on my ability to jive with them, and our experiences and discussions. Not based on actions that I feel don't factor into their potential behavior in an exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:46 PM
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Totally valid. A lot of people are thinking I'm saying one is bad and one is good. That's not what I'm getting at. My point is that all of these things, like n count, are pure preferences. It boils down to what you like and what you don't like. To generalize and say things like "I don't want someone who's had many partners because they'll cheat on me" just seems blanketed and like they're finding maliciousness in intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:44 PM
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Not really what I'm saying at all but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:42 PM
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The articles I've read said that the marriages where this was an issue had a common theme of the man not helping out around the house. Which, if a man is the stay at home dad, he shouldn't be the helper as much as he should be the one needing the help around the house. It alludes to the woman being the breadwinner AND the primary house-carer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:41 PM
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This is laughable. Being punished for being a tattletale sounds like I work for a fourth grader.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:40 PM
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I'm not saying that science is toxic. I'm saying relying on incomplete data is toxic. But if you want to generalize that's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:39 PM
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Because the reward I believe is something worth pursuing. I've been in relationships with women with high and low n counts. Neither have really been a clear cut advantage over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:38 PM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:37 PM
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Yes me it makes me uncomfortable. I don't think it makes them cheat or do other stuff. I just think it's disgusting. Perfectly acceptable response then. I can totally support that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:36 PM
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That's assuming those 20 men were all people she's attempting to make it work with, or those men were interested in making it work with anyone. I've had one night stands with women where we both go our separate ways afterwards. If nobody is looking to commit, why is that a negative add to an n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:35 PM
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Or isn't looking for commitment at a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:34 PM
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If the women is promiscuous, it is much more difficult to ensure paternity, which up until DNA testing was always uncertain If she is unfaithful, yes. But that is a different can of worms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:33 PM
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I mean, the sub is based in defending your viewpoint. So, I'm just playing along.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:32 PM
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I'm sorry if my wording is unclear. My point is that being uncomfortable with it is totally valid, but don't pretend it's based on any sort of future outcome or associated trait. Insecurity is not meant to be an insulting word, in this context. It's just a factual trait. You're insecure that a woman's past is going to affect your future relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 11:32 PM
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Just because a statement is controversial doesn’t make it correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:25 PM
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Now that you've broken it down to the basics, yes that I would agree with. This has no bearing on monogamous relationships in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:21 PM
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Speculative, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:19 PM
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"That's all the data we have" is one of the most toxic things I've heard, but that's just me. I'd never base my relationships of data I felt was incomplete, which any social study absolutely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:18 PM
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Millions of men have also went on with very successful relationships and go against that study. So I guess it depends on which millions you want to listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:17 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:15 PM
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But it's not necessarily statistically likely because of a high n count. Boiled all the way down, you believe men stand a better chance of taking your advice, being secure, dating high-n women they're otherwise compatible with Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Thank you. Because "studies shown" is poison, in my experience, since if you cast a wide enough net you can get social statistics to show just about anything you want. Your DUI example doesn't fit, however. Again: 1) A DUI is a DIRECT r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:15 PM
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But is that caused by a high N count or are there other factors? Statistics, especially behavioral ones, are notoriously selective in the info shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:09 PM
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I agree with this. My statement may not have been clear. I'm saying that a high n count has no negative relationship consequences other than if a partner is insecure about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:07 PM
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So, if it goes against your narrative then the woman must be lying? I have men tell me the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:06 PM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:05 PM
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It's the point of this whole thread. It's the original graphics posted. Everyone is talking about high n count and its effect on relationships. Your reasoning for what a high n count shows in a man or a woman is purely on your own feelings. I agree with a person with a DUI may be looked at driving a car in the future with more scrutiny, as they have been shown to have questionable decisions when driving a car in the past. However, multiple partners in the past has no direct relationship with mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 08:05 PM
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All of it speculation. One of those things might be happening, or both, or none. If you want to cite some speculative study to come to a conclusion, so be it. But no result can be confidently determined as more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:57 PM
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...yeah that's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:56 PM
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But there are women who are not into a high n count for men. Several times I've met women who will not date a guy with a high n count. Several of my guy friends have a high n count, and have cited it as a reason that certain women won't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:55 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:54 PM
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Right, you don't have those insecurities, so it's not an issue for you. The only reason it IS an issue is for those who do not like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:53 PM
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It is what's being discussed here, high n count being detrimental to a relationship. All reasons you've given stem from insecurities. Blanket statistics like that are basically like saying "Women are making less than men because of their gender!" Yes, there are women who are of the same level as men in the same position in the same company who make less and it's solely due to prejudice. This is a fact, and it's wrong that this happens. However, there are always other factors that are at play, su…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:37 PM
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lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:31 PM
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It is though. The women I value sex with, for instance, are not just bodies. I want to spend the night with someone I can bond with on a larger level than that, even if just for a night. I've turned down a beautiful woman who I thought was a bore before, and I'd do it again. Emotional connection doesn't always mean "after three weeks of dating."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:27 PM
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No, it is not what my words meant at all. Change is valued, mistakes can happen, relationships can hit roadblocks. However, change that is detrimental to the relationship, such as not providing any sort of value to a successful lifestyle, is perfectly acceptable grounds to split, if the partner refuses to improve. Ideally a marriage is forever. But I'm realistic enough to know that sometimes things may happen that will change that. The woman I marry will likely hold those same values and we will…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:25 PM
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To you and others that share your view. Most men do not. Okay, well then we get back to the point that it seems to be the case that a high n count is only detrimental to a relationship because the man is not in favor of it. "Evidence" that high N count factors differently between men and women doesn't exist other than from one's own perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:21 PM
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Well you've added a lot of words to my argument that I did not say. I never said that they shouldn't change or that nothing should go wrong. But if you're with someone, again, for an entire year and they're not pulling their weight, then you should absolutely walk away. A marriage ideally should be forever, I agree. But if one side is not treating the marriage with respect then the other person should cut them out. I don't see what's wrong with that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:07 PM
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A DUI is an objectively irresponsible act. Sex with multiple partners is not. The only factor at that point would be STDs, but if a person has had 100 partners and is clean then, yeah, it's not a negative at all. If a man is upset with a woman just for having multiple partners, then I don't blame the woman for wanting out. So, by your logic, a high N count for men is also bad, since they're just going to trade up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:04 PM
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Reasons for high n count are not always negative. It could be just that a woman enjoys sex. Sex is fun, and if you're single and another person is single it's fun to just do it. It doesn't have to stem from some deep rooted psych issue. And, before you get into it, it's not statistically more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:02 PM
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Don't get married because I'd want a partner who pulls their weight? Who works with me to improve our now shared lifestyle? That's a ridiculous statement. You cited the unhappiness was after a year. If my partner isn't doing stuff around the house OR working for a full year, then that's a deadbeat. I'm glad your relationship is working out. That's how a marriage should be as well. You seem to pull your weight as does your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:54 PM
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So, in this scenario, the only reason that the relationship doesn't work is you and your preferences and insecurity. Her high n count is only a factor to you not wanting the marriage to work out. With this, does it make sense that the high n count-caused divorces are more as a result of the men not liking it than anything the woman did wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:51 PM
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First, marriage is not always religious. Second, one person being a deadbeat loser, not pulling their weight in the relationship, is a bad reason to divorce? That's bonkers. That's a great reason to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:43 PM
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A history of DUI's is a direct look at driving ability. Number of partners is not a direct look at compatibility, only unless it's something that you arbitrarily value. Tell you this: if you were to be with a woman who you find to be totally your match, and a year later you find out she has been with 100 guys before you, is that sole reason why you'd leave her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:41 PM
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So it's good you bring that up, as I was reading about this thanks to a conversation with another user. The articles I read on it all mentioned divorce rate being high. However, many of them stated that this was not the case when the man was helping around the house. Being a stay at home dad and not helping around the house sounds like a deadbeat. And it's no surprise that a woman would divorce a man like that. So it seems like you're just guessing that the reason is a woman "just doesn't like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:33 PM
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I didn't say that. I said it's statistically true that kids who are violent play video games. Statistics are incredibly tricky. Many experts work for certain brands to find these loose relations that, on the surface, make sense, causing the market to lean a certain way. You're welcome to use that logic in your dating life, but it's irrational when you look at the big picture. A man who is great for a woman, has a good dating history, is faithful, successful, should work out. But if she dumps him…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:31 PM
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It's also statistically true that kids who are violent play a lot of video games. That doesn't mean that video games cause violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:23 PM
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Number of sexual partners has no actual effect on compatibility in a relationship though. With a company, drug use can hinder job performance (a user would not be suitable for a position where it's necessary for a worker to be fully alert). Criminal history can directly affect a company if the person goes after company finances. A woman who has sex with 5 people has no bearing of her being faithful, or caring, or compatible with me any more than a woman who has sex with 50 people. Any relation y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:20 PM
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Okay so I did some brief research, and it said that divorce rate was high unless the husband was helping out around the house. So it seems like the divorce is caused by the guy staying home all day and doing nothing. Sound research. I'm willing to bet the cause of the divorce was the dude being a deadbeat, not the woman having a better job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:16 PM
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That's not what responsibility is at all. I'm under no obligation to do the work assigned to someone else. I can take on a project when someone leaves to keep things on track, but why wouldn't you question tasks assigned to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:12 PM
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That's what they're saying? Or that's what's being inferred?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:08 PM
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I'd like stats on that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:08 PM
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It's also statistically within my best interest to own a horse based on the data presented earlier. However, this, and yours, are both illogical statements. In the vacuum of a study, they are "logical," but this vacuum is no way related to how the real world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:06 PM
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I highly doubt it's any different from sleeping with a low value woman. Men and women alike are prone to having too much and sleeping with someone they wouldn't sleep with sober. Most all just move on from that. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:04 PM
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Resent it why? They don't like work?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:01 PM
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Is that just something you tell yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:01 PM
2

You're comparing a man marrying up to winning the lottery?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:00 PM
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Preferences are preferences, and man are not based on any sort of real objective logic. It's logical to say "I don't want to date long distance, because that requires a lot more effort." It's not logical to say "I don't want to date a woman who has a high n count, because she'll cheat on me."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:58 PM
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Exactly. So studies like this don't really prove anything. The whole point of TBP is making fun of people who say things like "If a woman has a high n count then she won't be a good wife." Studies like this don't prove that, since there are way more things to factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 05:55 PM
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Ah yes. If I disagree it's not because the theory is bunk, it's because I'm just not looking hard enough. I know several women in steady relationships that have guys throw themselves at them all the time. One in particular is a tall, fun, gorgeous woman who often is at bars late alone waiting on her boyfriend to be done with his shift as a bartender at a different bar. She's had plenty of opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 03:48 PM
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Most people, from their own perspective, are dating across or up. You rarely get into a serious relationship with a person if you perceive them to not be worth your time. People that do are just using them for temporary gain. This isn’t exclusively for women. In any case, I know several relationships where, from my perspective, the woman is out of the guys league, and they’re smitten with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 03:15 PM
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Women and men are, on a whole, equally loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 03:11 PM
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No matter what, the theory is somehow always proven, which is ridiculous to me. Woman leaves another man = branch swinging. Woman doesn’t leave another man = just hasn’t found the opportunity yet. Why is it always something I hear about so often but never witness?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 03:08 PM
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Some women, yes. All women? Get over yourself. The first step to becoming a better man is realizing that sometimes when a woman leaves you it’s your own fault, not the “nature of the woman.” Take accountability for your own actions and you’ll start to become the person that women want to stay with, even when the going gets tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 03:06 PM
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Bud you’ve ended your last three comments here with some form of goodbye. Just let it go. Stop trying to pretend you’re smart by using condescending insults and just leave it. It’s not worth your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:35 PM
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Nobody else can be the judge of how you consistently act besides you. I'm not arguing that ignoring people isn't rude. You clearly aren't actually reading what I say. I'm saying that if a person ignores someone else on one occasion there is no basis by which to call them a shitty person, something that you seemed to imply earlier, when you said "Women treat incels like garbage." We've said that intentionally ignoring someone is, yes, a shitty thing to do. But we've also established there is no w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 03:18 AM
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Then I don't know why you brought this up in the first place. In any case, I get out plenty. But thanks for your concern. Try hanging with better crowds I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 10:49 PM
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Right I also acknowledge that that’s not commonplace at all outside of high school. But it’s also not a nuclear rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:56 PM
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As we’ve both acknowledged, ignoring someone could very well be for a good reason or completely unintentional. So it isn’t really character defining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:55 PM
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Okay, seems fair. You’re getting all flustered about it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:04 PM
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A) No, it’s absolutely not certain. B) if it’s something that isn’t considered a nuclear reaction, then I’m not talking about it. Simple as that. We’ve both agreed that your situation isn’t a nuclear reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:03 PM
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Okay, so, by your logic then, you can’t tell at all if any of these people who are ignoring you are shitty people, so why care about it so much? Also your downvotes are cute. Keep those comin just because you disagree. It helps your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:01 PM
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A) I wouldn’t consider that a nuclear rejection, which is what this whole thing is about. B) I would say though that that situation isn’t an everyday thing (for a given woman). I’m sure that happens, as I’ve said the same thing in jest about certain women who have approached me. But we’re not talking about that, are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:50 AM
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How many is enough? What happens when you have a bad day? Is that a hall pass? You, realistically, can’t judge a stranger then on their shittiness as a person since you’re, most likely, only seeing whether or not they greet you one time. And even if they snub you twice, maybe it’s an introvert. Maybe they have social anxiety. Maybe they’re having a really shitty day. Maybe they’re lost in their own thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:47 AM
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I can’t say I keep count. Not nearly 140 a week though. Like I said, nuclear reactions are super rare, and, as you point out, don’t seem to be for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:57 AM
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Right. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:31 PM
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We’re not here to talk about what works and what doesn’t. I’m talking about frequency of a nuclear rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:01 PM
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I don’t think that qualifies as being a shitty person. You think if you tip your hat to a stranger and they just keep walking that’s the line between a regular person and a shitty one?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:00 PM
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I’m not saying rejections don’t happen, or even rarely happen. I’m saying the nuclear embarrassing reactions to a guy just approaching a woman are exceptionally rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:58 PM
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Then I think she’s a nutcase who buys into that alpha/beta trope. That’s honesty, that’s delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 07:35 PM
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I never said it was invented on reddit. I said that’s where you saw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 07:34 PM
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Oh man, you were just ITCHING to use that super good burn you saw on an askreddit post. So proud. We're both claiming something that can really only be supported by anecdotal evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:45 PM
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Yes, I'm joking, because you just saying "nuh-uh" to the claim that nuclear rejections are just seen in movies didn't warrant a serious response. I'd consider myself an above average socialite, in terms of how often I go out. I have never once seen a girl go off on a guy for just talking to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:24 PM
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I mean a cursory hi can be appreciated but it's not a requirement. I'm also not saying hi to strangers all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:21 PM
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Yeah, that doesn't happen nearly as often as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:20 PM
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Good point. Now it’s probably less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 06:50 AM
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I mean what is it that’s being done rude? Not saying hi? Not smiling? Barely anyone gets that shit from most people, because we’re all into our own shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 06:49 AM
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Wait your job analogy doesn’t make sense. Hiring an employee is putting a significant investment in them. What are you expecting women to do that is comparable, for incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 01:40 AM
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The nuclear rejection is such a trope. Rejections like that are one in a billion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 01:36 AM
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This is all based on a lot of assumption. You’re reading into a lot of myths.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 04:16 AM
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Because he specifically implies that porn is training for cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:28 PM
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That’s because it’s my opinion. Of course it has no basis because it’s my own opinion. It seems like he has a strong enough opinion on porn that it seems fearful. Eating twelve donuts, though, can be evidenced to cause physical discomfort and have physical effects. Porn is psychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:27 PM
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Right, so do I. I have actual close friends who are women. In terms of what I look for in a partner, I enjoy someone who challenges me mentally, is someone who is adventurous, enjoys other cultures, and generally that “je ne sais quois” where you really connect on a level that is more than a friendship. You know when you have two people you consider close friends, but you like one a little better, or even just a little differently than the other? Sometimes it’s hard to explain, but with a romant…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:25 PM
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I don’t think keeping a monogamous relationship is anywhere close to being afraid of watching porn. That’s a horrible leap on logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:22 PM
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Because they are not the type of person that I want to date. There is a lot more than just being hot enough and getting along with them on a basic friendly level. There are a lot of things I look for in a potential partner, and the friends I have don’t possess them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:21 PM
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Right, it seems like you’re afraid of it. Like all of the sudden you’re going to write checks for unfaithful women the moment you watch someone else get fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:19 PM
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Hard to say. I’ve never felt or noticed any in most of my female friendships. I wasn’t totally correct in my last comment, but I guess there has been more than one case of us getting too drunk and fooling around, but in all cases we’ve stayed friends and realized that the physical stuff should not be the norm. I’d also say as a side note that most of my female friends I would say are objectively average to above average attractiveness, so it’s not an issue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:28 PM
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I think they’re saying that, in general, the positives for being the average man in society far outweigh the positives for being the average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:21 PM
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Most every significant relationship I’ve been in, yes this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:18 PM
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Okay then if we’re framing your question around women using your toilet, then yes it’s required to spend money on women because no sane woman will date a man who makes her take dumps at the Starbucks down the street. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:16 PM
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Lotta fear in this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:11 PM
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What? No. Not at all. I’m looking at the girl, yes, but I’m not imagining myself as her. Why would I when I’m the one with the penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:11 PM
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Sure. I don’t like dating women who are a little overweight. In strict terms that probably makes me shallow but I don’t date someone solely for their personality, as I’m sure is the case with everyone else. All it means is that you’re looking at more than just a perfectly kind personality to date. I’ve met some very lovely women who I just am not attracted to physically, so there is easily part of me that is shallow. But it’s something I can accept because who I choose to date is likely someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 05:09 PM
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I don't know. To me living a life being that paranoid over something you are just afraid of happening isn't worth getting into a relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:17 AM
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But if he dumped you for spying on him, would you say that's worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:53 AM
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You don’t think he’d be upset you breaching into his privacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 11:47 PM
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Well I’m asking would you consider him a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 08:33 PM
1

“Hello, how are you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:23 PM
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Yes, 100% Several of my closest friends are women, and, aside from one night when I got too drunk with one of them, we’ve never had any sort of sexual tension at all. That one case we didn’t even do anything but cuddle, so I’d hardly say that counted. At this point in our relationship, I have absolutely no desire for them romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:21 PM
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There’s always going to be someone who takes your actions the wrong way, no matter what you do. Some people just want to be outraged. But that’s not gonna stop me from doing the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:18 PM
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What’s your opinion on Bill Clinton?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:16 PM
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So, yes you’re only in it for the money. Which is a shame. I typically look for companionship above all for a relationship, but that’s just me. If he found out you were spying, what do you think would happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 06:13 PM
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So you’re only in the relationship for the money? If he were setting up cameras because he didn’t trust you, how would you feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 05:25 PM
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Well, what you said before implied that any sex before marriage was detestable. I guess that’s not the case? It doesn’t seem you have a lot of trust in him. What if he finds out you’re going through, or attempting to go through, his private information?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 03:03 PM
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So what happened to that risk of cancer from them then? What about your HPV risk? Also, I saw in another comment that you installed cameras for your husband. Why’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 01:28 PM
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So, because you don’t get what you want, then their problems don’t matter? Do you think maybe it’s something you’re doing wrong instead of just getting mad at women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 01:28 PM
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That you don’t realize that weeks on end of trying to date, and having (from your perspective) seemingly harmless men threaten you and berate you for not responding to your texts, calling you a cunt, and saying they will rape you isn’t something that you can brush off when it happens every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:36 PM
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Was your spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 09:19 PM
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That the dating world for women is not something you’re familiar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 07:40 PM
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You’ve really taken quite a leap here. Someone who has had sex before doesn’t suddenly make them an addict. A person who has made an impulsive decision doesn’t necessarily mean that they have no self control. Similarly, sex doesn’t always lead to HPV or cancer. That’s a thought from someone who doesn’t have a good grasp of what sex is. I think you’re a little paranoid. Are you married? If not, are you a Virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 07:39 PM
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How does that relate at all? How does having sex before meeting me imply unfaithfulness? Does this mean the fact that I’ve had sex imply that I’m going to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 03:47 PM
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If you’re so afraid that women are always cheating, then I hope you have no plans of getting into a relationship. You’re clearly too immature for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 02:16 PM
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Don’t generalize. If you’re going to cheat on a girl just because you’re afraid she might do it first, then get out of the relationship. Not for your sake, but for hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 02:13 PM
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No, it’s never fine to fuck other girls if you’re in an exclusive relationship. I find it ironic that this seems to be the philosophy, that you should have your side pieces, and yet a woman who has had sex with a few too many guys before she met you is unworthy of your time. If you’re not mature enough to keep it in your pants and remain faithful to a woman who you expect to remain faithful back to you, then don’t be in a relationship to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 02:11 PM
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Not the same. Cheating on me does matter, her having sex with guys before I met her doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 02:08 PM
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So clearly no. Sounds good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 02:07 PM
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Right I get that. I’m just wondering why it’s gross to you. Do you think the semen is still inside her or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 05:29 AM
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It doesn’t disgust me. If you’re asking why does it bother me that it disgusts you, it doesnt, but this is a debate sub so I figured that means asking questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:53 AM
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My secret is “who cares”? I never ask about it, because it doesn’t matter. If I’m having a great time, and she’s faithful, then what’s the problem? That another penis touched her pee pee hole and that’s an icky thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:49 AM
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Hypergamy is the stupid belief that women are just trading up, and another way for men to blame something else instead of taking accountability for the fact that they’re probably just not a very good relationship partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:48 AM
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Did you chat with those people? Did you try and engage? For a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:03 AM
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Give it a shot. Because clearly you don’t actually know what it’s like. But have fun in your fantasy world if you don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 01:16 AM
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You are making absolutely no sense. Objective truths are universal laws and cause/effects. Your opinion that we must have totally free 2A laws in effect for effective government is an opinion, and subjective. You can think all you want that it’s necessary, but it is your opinion. You yourself are definining it as subjective, and somehow calling it objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 01:15 AM
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I disagree with that entirely. Plenty of women like having conversations on dating apps. You’re half right, that being actually entertained helps you stand out, but to say they don’t want conversation is disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:51 PM
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Again, that doesn’t mean that they’re gonna give every single person a full on convo. I’ve swiped on several people only to be overwhelmed later on and only give a fraction of them a real fulfilling conversation. It’s not ideal, but that’s just the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:50 PM
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Objective logical truths for you by definition means they are subjective. Just because someone disagrees with that does not mean it is an illogical thought. We can agree to disagree on what will move a country forward, but the definition of what makes something objective or subjective is unchanging. You’re incorrect about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 01:03 PM
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I think you’re opinion that these are objective truths is entirely incorrect. These are very subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:47 AM
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Online dating is never ever indicative of how a person is in real life or towards you. Women have a high influx of men messaging them, and many people go on dating sites just to see what’s out there, not necessarily to find their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:50 PM
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I’ve dealt with plenty of type As. In fact I prefer dating them. The thing is if they have interest in me then they make time to have a good conversation with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:49 PM
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You would have a good point if it were objectively true that voting republican is always the logical choice. But that’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:46 PM
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You implied in your original claim that an emotionally sensitive person will not judge things logically. I’m saying that an emotionally sensitive person is entirely capable of being logical, and vice versa. Im also adding that this type of person makes up the majority of the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:09 AM
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Spend a week pretending to be a woman on a dating site. Earnestly try. And then come back and see how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:59 AM
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Agreed, being busy is also a valid reason. But if there’s a pattern of it, then things aren’t looking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:58 AM
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An upset or angry man or woman is not upset or angry constantly. Logical people are very capable of showing emotion while remaining logical. You’re reading the world in black and white which is one of the most illogical ways to see things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:57 AM
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Some people look st relationships through rose colored glasses. It’s not a male exclusive thing. You ever see a relationship where the dude is a total shitbird and the woman is still fawning over him because she thinks she can change him? This is just the reverse of this scenario. Even when things get real bad, the victim of the relationship sees it as an investment still, and is trying to salvage some sort of positivity from the relationship. It’s not a sign of weakness, per say, but rather the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:38 PM
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Way, way (read: way way WAY) fewer girls are playing this “game” you speak of. Nine ones out of ten, if a girl isn’t responding to you, or leaving you on read, it’s because she’s not interested. She isn’t trying to see if you want it, or stringing you along, she’s just avoiding extended contact. Now, what about replying with just one word, or with a smiley face? She’s being polite. Some people (myself included) know that it’s rude to just ignore someone, but at the same time might not be super k…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:34 PM
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Social norms also tell me that I can't go to movies alone, and yet alone to movies I go. Everybody's fine. Do you know what happens when you don't put a ring on it, and don't man up? Absolutely nothing. You get to be yourself and someone who cares too much about what you do gets upset. Who cares about them? Why does this matter? Nobody is forcing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 07:32 PM
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Showing emotion doesn’t mean you lack control of it. Get real. Just because a person shows anger, sadness, happiness, whatever doesn’t mean they’re letting it cloud their judgement. I think the belief that in order to be logical you must be RP is a thought that younger kids have. That is to say, they want to believe that one side is better. The less you understand the other side of the coin, the more you’re going to dig your heels into the ground that your side is the side of reason and logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 01:03 PM
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Spoken like a man who doesn't like reading what he doesn't agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:24 AM
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I don't agree that being blue pill opens you up to manipulation. You can be an emotionally sensitive and friendly man while still having your spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:23 AM
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Yeah that's about all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 05:21 AM
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Right. Exactly. You’ve told them they can leave. Which they can. Nobody is forcing them to be part of this relationship. And you’re wrong. Relationships where the man isn’t shelling out all his money are far more common than you assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 12:54 PM
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I'm denying it's a problem because it's completely within the control of the one spending the money. You ever have a talk with someone who is shelling out paychecks for a relationship and saying "You don't have to do this"? That's true! They don't! Plenty of relationships revolve around equal, smart spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 12:05 AM
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Just because one person asked a question makes it a common expectation? Do you see how many people on this thread are agreeing that NSA sex isn’t a big deal? You’re gonna find mostly that in the real world as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 11:12 PM
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I was at a wedding and having a gay old time. At the afterparty, one of the bridesmaids and I were flirting a lot and eventually we were gonna make it back to my hotel room. At one point a guy grabbed my arm very sternly said “Pickles, you can NOT do this.” Well fuck you, I won’t do what do what you tell me. I had a rain shower and I wanted someone else to share it with. Well we were well into it when I finally realized what that guy was talking about, because I saw that this girl had a goddamn …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 09:54 PM
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Okay so, you’re just going to be worried you’re not conforming to norms by not getting financially squeezed in a relationship? I’ve never once felt pressure by society to be a slave. You might be a bit paranoid here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 09:44 PM
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I don’t think anyone is putting a gun to their head and making them be part of a one sided relationship. Theres always the option of, I don’t know, compromising, or dating someone else. It’s not difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 09:25 PM
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I have no idea where the idea comes from that men are slaving away. It’s a pretty dated trope. What do you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 09:01 PM
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A man who is that socially inept likely doesn’t have the awareness or grace to dress or keep himself looking well, thereby making him unattractive. I think you’d be hard pressed finding a very attractive man staring at women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:50 PM
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Sure you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:45 PM
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I’d really hate to have your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:31 PM
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I mean...I go out with friends at bars about once a week. Having NSA sex at the end of those nights is a pretty regular thing. It’s not like I’m working 8 hours a day on that sort of thing. How much time do you think this takes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:25 PM
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I don’t think there’s a large enough population of people who actually think that to be considered a sample size. The problem is that information is so streamlined that one fringe lunatic will write that, and then everyone’s gonna be talking about how “this is what women believe now.” Nobody actually thinks that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:23 PM
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If you have to lie to a woman just to get in bed with her, that sure says a lot about you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:21 PM
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Then that’s on the dummies for being sexist against men. Nobody is the villain when both parties are just having fun. Anyone who has a problem with that has got some stuff to sort out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:20 PM
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Is marriage only about sex? Because this sort of “deception” only applies if the guy is solely in a relationship for the sex. There’s more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 08:19 PM
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Sometimes the sexiness is in the subtlety. She painted the image in her head of what that short sentence meant, and she took it sexually, as intended. You don’t need to write exactly to the letter what happens in a scene to make it sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 07:37 PM
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So whenever you get a boner, it’s because you’re attracted to someone? I get boners doing spreadsheets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 04:50 PM
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It's more fun with another person. Sure, feelings can get caught, but for the most part casual sex is for the fun of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:45 PM
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The idea that taste varies isn’t generous? This doesn’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:38 PM
1

...what? My question was who is saying women aren’t gaining anything by being in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:23 PM
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Disgenrous? What do you mean by that? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:22 PM
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So, you take my scenario, and then just ignore it entirely? I’m telling you that it’s not the case that all women are universally attracted to a certain man. Some men will be generally seen as more attractive, and some men will be generally seen as less than, but it’s all fluid. If you had 10 men, and asked 10 women to arrange them in order of attractiveness, do you think all women will arrange these men in the same order every time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:10 PM
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And neither can I, directly. I’ve never been in a situation where I’ve been literally frozen with fear (unless you count public speaking but I’m not about to equate that to getting raped). But you should at least have the compassion to understand another person’s reaction and support them instead of saying “well just don’t do that.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:06 PM
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That people believe that only X% of men are getting all the sex, and especially that there’s an objective line in the sand drawn. Every person is going to be attracted to a certain percentage of people. But who fits in that group and how big that group is will always vary. Take ten men and ten women for example. For one of these women, you’re right. Only one of those guys is attractive to her. We’ll say he’s guy number 1. But for another, she may think that guy number 1 AND guy number 4 is attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 04:04 PM
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The whole top 10% of males thing is one of the biggest loads of bunk this side of the Mississippi.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:15 PM
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“Don’t freeze up” is just about as shitty of advice as saying “don’t fall” so someone who’s practicing a tightrope. Don’t be daft.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:14 PM
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In my experience I’ve heard men refer to lots of different women as wife material, but for the most part it’s a woman who is adventurous. I’ve seen “wife material” referred mostly towards a woman who is down to party, or a woman who knows more about sports than they do, or a woman who is financially successful. Rarely do I ever see someone labeled as “wife material” for her obedience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:05 PM
1

Cat got your tongue?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 03:02 PM
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Men in the workplace must constantly suppress our natural selves in the name of "professionalism". I could not disagree more. Everyone has to maintain a moducum of professionalism to get work done, say yes, in a sense, everyone is suppressing their natural selves. But to pretend that men are some savage beasts that always need to talk about tits and ass is a tired trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:39 AM
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Then that I get. Wasn’t sure of the meaning. So then yeah I’m far and above more into the girl who is her own woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 06:35 AM
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I still have no idea what unreasonable demands you’re talking about. WHY is it socially demeaning? HOW is it feeding the female ego any different than it is feeding the male ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 02:52 AM
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I mean like what demands exactly? Because I don’t think I’ve given into any demand for sex, let alone an unreasonable one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 02:46 AM
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Not what I’ve observed. So I guess agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 02:43 AM
1

What unreasonable demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 02:43 AM
1

Right how do you know this is the majority? This is likely the majority on subreddits of men seeking relationship/sex advice, but I don’t think so overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 01:18 AM
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A “bang maid” sounds absolutely awful, if I’m being realistic. Yeah sex is awesome, but when im looking for a partner I want a true companion. Someone to spend time with, explore the world with, go on adventures with. Someone smart and can challenge me, either directly or indirectly, to be a better person. A bang maid is awesome in theory, for a minute, but it would ultimately be empty. That’s not what I’m in a relationship for. The “challenge” thing also doesn’t jive with me. I don’t like ideal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 01:17 AM
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Why are they traitors?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 01:12 AM
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Who's to say they aren't gaining anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:57 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:13 PM
1

Your sarcasm aside, Is this reasoning true of all black men, most black men, or some black men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:12 PM
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Why is it a sign of low class? Is every black man lower class than you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:11 PM
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There was a woman who was, hands down, the hottest woman I’ve ever had sex with, and could not communicate with me normally. Case in point: after the Snapchat update I put on my story how stupid it was and said I was gonna delete it, then deleted it. During this time she and I had planned on hanging out that Monday. Sunday rolls around and she messages me on INSTAGRAM demanding to know why I’m ignoring her. I had no missed calls or texts. Turns out she had sent me snaps and I missed them (becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:10 PM
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If they go into an encounter wanting sex, getting sex, and then afterwards have a feeling of “I wanted it to be more!” then it’s on them for feeling exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:05 PM
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I think it depends on outlook. Objectively, both parties are being used. Women may, generally, dwell on that more, while men don’t. Perception is 90% of reality, but we shouldn’t always change something based on a person’s perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:04 PM
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Men are the REAL victims!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:02 PM
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I know that I am the type to want a meaningful relationship, but I also know that those don’t just happen in a moment. So sleeping around is a fun thing to do in the meantime. I don’t think you have to do one over the other. Obviously when you’re in a relationship you should stop sleeping around, but growing up I’ve gone into most every ONS with the added thought that this could develop into something meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 10:01 PM
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Hellllllll no. As a man I get a lot of advantages in life that I would not trade for the bodily functions and societal disadvantages that a woman has. I pick being a man 10 time’s out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 04:36 PM
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Do you think your sister is too weak to go through her sexual life on her own? Follow up: do you think there is any woman on earth who is immune from becoming a plate to another man, or do you think that the right man could spin any woman on earth?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:18 PM
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Do you have a link to that study?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:11 PM
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Polyamorous relationships could be great if both parties feel as if they’re equally getting what they want out of it. But I think it’s tough for most couples to achieve that equilibrium.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:12 PM
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I wouldn’t like it, but calling it deception is such a weird word. What is she being deceitful about by not shaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:09 PM
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Whether or not an individual cares doesn’t affect their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:05 PM
2

I’m not your erotica author.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 06:13 PM
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Okay great.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:25 PM
2

I think we're just going to fundamentally disagree on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:25 PM
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I disagree completely. Ravishing a partner is not in the same ballpark as forced sex with an unwilling participant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:13 PM
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Scorn might be a strong word, but I see no problem with seeing people talk freely about their fantasies about committing rape and being ridiculed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:12 PM
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I'm not trying to be the thought police, thoughts are just thoughts. Though I would choose to avoid people who have certain fantasies, as they can be indicative of a major problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 03:37 PM
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Ravishment is different from rape. Equating them is disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 03:35 PM
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Rape isn't consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 03:11 PM
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Good reading, thank you for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 03:08 PM
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I think that, man or woman, if you're fantasizing about rough sex, that's fine. If you're fantasizing about committing rape, where by definition the participant is unwilling, then that's not okay. This is not a sex positivity issue, but a consent/morality issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 03:07 PM
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People who have fantasies about committing rape should be scorned. I also never said that terpers' dating fantasy is to rape. I said that if a fantasy does include rape, then there is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 03:04 PM
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I do not make that claim. Stop generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 01:57 PM
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There's a big, giant, hard line difference between male and female rape fantasies. Both are twisted, but by fantasizing as the rapist you are literally fantasizing about forcing yourself on an unwilling woman. This should absolutely be scorned. The other way around is really just a step up from rough sex, as there is an obvious willingness to participate by both parties. The field report you linked to now just sounds pathetic, that he's over-analyzing THIS MUCH in a simple brewery date. the whol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 01:56 PM
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I think most of them are definitely fake or at least heavily embellished. However, when your dating fantasy goes into a territory where you’re committing acts that qualify as rape/assault/harassment (or past LMR, whatever that means) you should absolutely be scorned for that. So I don’t think it’s real after it passes a certain point, I think at that point there is just more to address than a bunch of kids telling campfire stories and more to a bunch of kids with sick fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 01:05 PM
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I don’t have studies on hand because I think they’re bullshit so I never bother looking for them. I think these studies can be manufactured to show almost any result.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 10:45 PM
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What I’m getting at is, the study is showing what the writers what to show. The data could very well show that women liked men with glasses and sisters, depending on how you view it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 09:33 PM
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If I had the full data available to me and I cared enough about studies like this, I'm sure with enough time I can produce results showing women are most attracted to men with glasses and sisters. Again, though, I think a lot of studies like this are mostly bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 08:29 PM
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I think a lot of attraction/psychological studies can easily suffer "multiple comparison bias," where with a significant enough data sample almost any finding can be determined. Moreover, on paper, things are going to be more black and white by nature. When presented with a question, for example, asking if someone would prefer a mate with a position of authority or not, they'd likely choose yes, considering a position of authority is generally seen as a positive trait (status, success, etc). How…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 06:25 PM
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No it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 05:50 PM
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Creepy is the worst I’ve ever heard a friend get called. Anyone who has said that they’ve been accused of assault just by talking to a woman, in my opinion, is embellishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:54 PM
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What in the fucking world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:52 PM
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How do I delete a bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 06:07 PM
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Nope, not always. In some cases, I'll stay friends with women to get closer to her friends, but for the most part I'm friends with a woman because I value her company, input, intellect, what have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 05:57 PM
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Yes, sorry. Been sick but I’ll get it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 08:39 PM
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Yeah. Your husband actually stumbles upon a new, more effective filter for the vacuum and makes a killing selling it to Dyson. Y’all are pretty set for life after you turn 48, but the money will eventually wear the relationship down and you divorce, amicably. You see each other around time and again, each with a new spouse. You think maybe next time you invite him over for dinner, but you never get around to it. He hopes you’re well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:51 AM
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Wanted to break the mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:03 AM
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Two girls. Ashleigh and Jyssica. Athletes in their own right, but more fans of hockey than players.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:02 AM
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Worry not! Declan and Bryce will make it to the pros, the former even being part of a Stanley cup team! Braeden will have a pretty okay run in the minors but only for a couple seasons before hanging up his skates for a job in commercial realty with the tag line: “CHECK this out!” Ryder will unfortunately die in a car accident at 13. Sorry for your loss. I’m here if you need to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:32 PM
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Same thing. Less goatee, more hockey refs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 11:17 PM
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No, broski, I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:44 PM
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Again, your only basis for TBP not knowing is that they don’t provide counterpoints. You don’t have to in order to mock.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:43 PM
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I think what you are describing here is debate. TBP isn't for debate or exchange of ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 07:43 PM
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Okay man, we're just gonna go in circles. I'm sorry for not typing the exact same thing each time, but we're arguing semantics at this point. Sorry that my memeing isn't meme enough for you and should meme itself into meme. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 07:28 PM
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Again, it's not ever going to have field reports, or discussion, or theories. It's meant to mock, and to mock alone. Do you need sources to make fun of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 07:18 PM
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The OP labeled RP truths converse to BP truths, implying that the "RP truths" of confidence, taking care of ones appearance, etc. are exclusive to the red pill. Taking it a step further, it can imply that these are truths originating from TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 07:13 PM
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What makes you think they don't know what they're making fun of?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 07:10 PM
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It’s not supposed to be a nuanced critique. It’s not supposed to offer counterpoint. It is strictly a parody of TRP and always will be. I’m sorry if you want it to evolve but it won’t, because the users aren’t there to provide focus or insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 06:06 PM
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The more you say meme the less I’m going to take you seriously. What I said was to imply one is a red pill truth implies that the other side doesn’t consider it truth, when it is a near universal truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 06:04 PM
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I don't think it's okay. I think it's definitely okay to say that prayer (fitness, confidence) is incorporated into the practice of Abrahamic religion (TRP), but the converse is not as accurate of a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 05:47 PM
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My comment was only spouting /u/yasee truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 05:43 PM
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TBP was founded as a parody sub, and you're saying you want it to no longer be. It's like reading The Onion and saying "these articles are funny, but they should expand to much needed real journalism with real ideas on top of their satire." It's never going to be not a parody sub. There is no "BP philosophy" no matter how often people say so. Those could easily be advocated for and focused on in isolation from...charisma, lifting, frame Again, you'd be hard pressed to find people on TBP who disa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 05:39 PM
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Sorry for using hyperbole. I didn't think you'd take that literally. My mistake. Are you saying that prayer should not be proclaimed as an Abrahmic truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 05:36 PM
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TBP could have presented itself as a legitimate alternative to RP but instead chose to engage in unconstructive mocking/parody instead. If they wanted to present a balanced view of dating, they could have done that as well. And if /r/minecraft wanted to talk about Halo, they could. But that's not what the sub was founded on. TBP was made and marketed as a parody sub. It's no different from /r/niceguys or /r/fatlogic. It's not there to provide advice, but to make fun of the illogical viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:22 PM
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red pill truths such as fitness...extraversion [sic] and lifestyle These are life truths. Everyone says this. To label them as red pill truths is to imply that the red pill is where these truths began
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:12 PM
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TBP is solely to make fun of TRP. Sit anyone down in that sub, and they'll say it's important to maintain confidence, get hobbies, and look as good as you can. Nobody denies this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 03:58 PM
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Nobody has ever said that you shouldn’t be fit or have an active lifestyle to get in a better likelihood of a successful relationship. To pretend that this is exclusively a RP idea is arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 03:33 PM
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Any American man that uses broski unironically is destined to have a goatee and be kicked out of a little league game for yelling at the 16 year old umpire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 03:31 PM
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I think most women are moral, no question. That said I’ve been burned before. Plenty of men have. Plenty of women have too, by men. Everyone has a story about it because it’s an interesting story to tell about breakups. Nobody is going to tell a story about the cool gal who it just didn’t work out with, because that does not make for an entertaining anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 03:29 PM
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Is this some sort of deja vu? Did you get bullied by JK Rowling?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 03:27 PM
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I don’t know what his sex life was like before his relationship started. All I know is that he’s currently married to a fox with an active sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 12:50 PM
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I'd agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:26 AM
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Yeah most likely. Making friends involves social skills, meeting women involves looks and social skills. If you’re lacking male friends, you’re likely lacking social skills, which puts you at an enormous disadvantage to meeting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 12:44 AM
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I think they are the hallmarks of a person worthy of my respect. Being a man or a woman has little to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:28 PM
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I mean, same. I don't have any experience back there either but I've dropped some real satisfying number twos.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:18 PM
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I consider them capable, trustworthy, intelligent, and possessing leadership qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 07:37 PM
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There are plenty of women in life I respect. Your statement is lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 06:49 PM
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I mean it’s a verifiable fact that the male prostate is a pleasure zone. If you don’t know if you like butt stuff then you’ve likely never tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 06:49 PM
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When I get home I'll PM my looks. Then you can guess what reality I'm capable of, and I'll give you the deets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:57 PM
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I'm more interested in showing you what I look like first. Giving you the answer will easily allow you to justify my looks in either direction. If I don't have a lot of luck with women, it's because of X. If I do, it's because of X but in a positive light.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:49 PM
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Well I can tell you I've lived in several major American cities, and a few smaller towns, and aside from a brief stint in downtown LA my views have been fairly consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:48 PM
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These words are gibberish to me. The woman in this picture looks like a completely normal, average face to me. I feel like you're looking far too deep into facial structure. Frankly, I'm curious to see how you'd analyze my face, and how your expectations of how my world is compare to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:51 PM
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I see it almost every weekend, but that's also due in part to two of my friends hitting a few of those marks and they bounce from gal to gal like it's their job. Another friend of mine (short, average build, more hair on his face than head) got drunk and confided in me that his marriage was the best thing to happen because now he doesn't have to try any more and he gets action twice a week at least. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:49 PM
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Who hasn't had sex with a less desirable person, amirite? But no, these guys are making it with perfectly normal, active, cute, fun women. If you choose not to believe it then that's fine, keep believing that a guy who doesn't look like Chris Hemsworth will never make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:42 PM
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Objectively you have the facial structure you do. This doesn't make you objectively attractive or unattractive, as that's going to vary between people. Obviously some people will be more "universally" attractive, but there is no hard line of "this is ugly, this is not." I'm looking at the picture you posted, and that just looks like a normal eye. Is that what you have? I don't see what's wrong with this picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:40 PM
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I have before, when they've asked me for an opinion on their looks. Do you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:30 PM
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Sisters are always gonna say you're ugly. I have four and I got my fair share. (JFL I have high gonial angle and recessed jaw Don't know what these words mean, but your ex is calling you handsome and the fact that you're able to get a gal at 15 means that there are people who find you attractive. Tinder is a bad gauge of attraction because I know good looking guys who use terrible pictures of themselves and get crickets on dating apps. There are people saying you're attractive and you're just ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:28 PM
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Okay well that's a big word salad that doesn't really mean anything. Point I'm making is that there are men out there with patchy beards, pot bellies, a receding hairline, a crooked nose, a scarred face, or less than 5'8 getting semi-regular casual sex or are in fulfilling relationships because they keep themselves put together and stay interesting in conversation. Sex isn't reserved for chiseled jaws and blue eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:19 PM
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I'm willing to bet it's a lot more closer to average than you think it is. What do people in your life say?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:17 PM
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I would definitely consider that less than just fine. Plenty of average men who take care of themselves are in fulfilling relationships or have a decent amount of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:07 PM
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Jesus Christ this is drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:05 PM
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Going with what others are saying, you are far too cynical and calculating. You’re focusing on the things that go wrong instead of shining a light on the things that are right. If a girl shows interest in you and you start wondering why she’s with you despite your canthal tilt or whatever, you’re already blowing it. There are better things to think about. Get off whatever board is picking apart your average face like this. It’s only hurting you in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:03 PM
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Wait why were the other answers not honest? You’re literally just asking this looking for people to agree with you? Close minded as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 11:30 PM
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Physical attraction is important for most relationships. You'd be hard pressed to find anybody who denies this. However, as noted by this very thread and others, physical attraction is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 07:08 PM
2

What does your comment mean? “Are purplepillers Blackpilled”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:22 PM
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What.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:13 PM
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Assuming either gender will automatically associate with one of those en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 09:02 PM
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Level of critical thinking skills. Women who can’t see big picture stuff, or can’t sit back and think about solutions before diving into a problem, are not good for me. Generally I value intelligence in a woman, as well as passion and drive. Lacking in those areas is not a long term partner for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 09:00 PM
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No true Scotsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 06:10 PM
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I like your answer (and your other comment). This gives a good perspective on the other side. And I like that you acknowledge that you are atypical here, I would agree. Frankly, I am on your side. I’d rather be seen as a great caretaker than a great provider, but I know that for most men not being a provider would be detrimental to their feelings of masculinity and leadership, but that’s due in part to societal norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 03:06 PM
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Have a good day, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 06:21 PM
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Your preference in this question matters to make my next point, but if you'd rather not answer then that's fine, I can move on with my lunch break.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 06:16 PM
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I'm asking for your personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 05:58 PM
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Which would you rather people think about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:03 PM
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Okay pal. The whole sub is anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:03 PM
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I agree, but I think people thinking you are not as great at child care doesn't seem nearly as bad as people thinking you don't have enough to offer society in terms of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 04:52 AM
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By the projects I've been on. Capable women are often shown less attention than incapable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 04:50 AM
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Is that mutually exclusive from the stance that women are not being promoted due to their merits just as men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:41 AM
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Do you consider yourself argumentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 02:53 AM
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https://taskandpurpose.com/not-just-imagination-really-harder-women-get-promoted/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 02:40 AM
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Man, for someone who prides himself on being a logical thinker, you made some real big leaps there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:25 AM
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You’d be surprised the number of work environments where women’s opinion on large scale projects are undervalued.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:24 AM
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The ways that involve succeeding on merit are much more difficult for a woman. Which is why men and women aren’t level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:06 AM
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Hard for a woman to have someone to bring a paycheck home when they’re not married. Also I’m a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:04 AM
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How do you figure? Why is succeeding in a career solely a function of a man? I don’t see how being good at ones job is behaving like a man. It’s behaving like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:28 PM
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Yeah, that’s not succeeding or being respected. Sleeping your way to the top or stealing it is hardly something I’d call worthy of respect. For a woman to get there by merit alone, she’s not going to have a level playing field with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:27 PM
2

Biggest ways men win out is advancing higher up in a career. Women may get a nudge in a hiring process, but men are generally more immediately trusted in handling managerial proceedings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:26 PM
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Primarily it has to do with career/education/knowledge. Women generally have to work harder to be part of a group, and to be trusted as a source of knowledge. Women in STEM fields, for example, will have a much harder time proving that they deserve to be there, as men will often assume they were handed passes or that other people did the work for them. Women who are sports fans, as another, will often be asked if their dad or boyfriend took them to a game, and will get challenged on if they’re a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:25 PM
2

I said how women have it worse overall, and explain how in some cases they have it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:22 PM
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Generally I think women have it tougher. Yes there are a lot of programs in place to give advantages to women, and yes some of those are misused and treat men unfairly. However, in the grand scheme of society, women do need to overcome a lot in order to come out as successful and respected. I think there are definitely aspects where women win out (crime and sex being two major players), but I think overall a woman’s life in the west is tougher to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:07 PM
3

So if you pick fights, do you think a non argumentative woman will want to stick around?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 06:27 PM
1

Also in an engineering program, definitely didn't see that. But maybe you just know sucky people, or you're seeing what you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 09:21 PM
6

How often do you think this happens, honestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:58 PM
1

Yeah still sounds bonkers. If she likes you enough she’ll keep talking to you. If you need tricks to figure it out then you already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:56 PM
4

This sounds bonkers. Unless you have a reason to go somewhere I don’t see why you have to lead a gal around a bar or figure out if she’s into you with these “tricks.” Sometimes gals who are into also don’t feel like moving around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:19 PM
1

I’m not a forceful person by any means, nor do I often get worked up. But when I project a bit more and a woman gives me that wide eyed flutter, it makes me feel pretty empowered. Just the feeling of having someone’s full attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:11 AM
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Alpha and beta nonsense aside, a profession does not an assertive man make. I know cops that con control a room, and others who are insecure and just wanted an excuse to carry a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 01:24 PM
1

20 bucks is nothing so I’m not phased. My plan was to get a cheap watch to see if I liked wearing watches, now I’m hunting for an actual quality one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:19 PM
1

How is it a flaw treating both genders equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 09:58 PM
1

As I said earlier, basic trust. Not with my life or bank account or anything. Been pretty great at not getting scammed thus far other than buying a 20 dollar watch that was worth a buck. It is irrelevant. That's why I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 09:58 PM
1

You never once used past tense. You said "Most women act the same." Present tense. You never said, until now, that it was women you have met. Stay consistent and then maybe my argument will make more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:38 PM
3

I’m not talking about sexual dynamics. I’m talking about meeting people and trusting them outright. Not every interaction with the opposite sex is going to be sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:31 PM
1

You don’t judge them, but you say most act the same? Because that’s judgung them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:40 AM
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Depends on the person whether they want something from me or not. That’s not gender specific in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:39 AM
2

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:09 AM
3

Off the top of my head? No, but I’ve read it plenty of places that give dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:09 AM
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As someone who “gets it,” I think the red pill is complete drivel. Other than advice that is not at all cornered in the red pill market (take care of yourself, be confident, don’t fall over yourself for a woman’s attention), the sub reads like what a 14 year old thinks is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:22 AM
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In your hitchhiking scenario, I’d probably be much more comfortable getting picked up by a woman. But in general I have an equal amount of basic trust (not with my life)) for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:19 AM
1

we dont judge everyone woman to be some cunt and cause most woman act the same Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 02:10 PM
1

I think we just fundamentally disagree here on what it means for things to be easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 12:05 PM
1

Shooting a bullet takes a quarter second. Scratching off a ticket takes a minute. And if you miss, or if you don’t win? No consequence. Shoot again. Sitting down and talking with a guy, going out with him, finding if you’re compatible, takes time and effort. Every guy is going to put his best foot forward, and a woman can not determine if the relationship will be positive or not without time. And if it goes south? Well, use your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 08:13 PM
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Because quantity does not equal quality, and in order to determine if an element is quality, time must be invested. Just because there are more options, does not make it easier to find an agreeable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 07:37 PM
2

What if a person has to chase a woman, is more what I'm asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 02:00 PM
2

Your first statement is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:37 PM
2

TBP is a circlejerk sub. Nobody there is reading up on anything, just making a mockery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:36 PM
1

It could also suffice that the woman was going to have sex with a man anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:35 PM
3

What if you have to chase women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:31 PM
2

No, because traditionally men have been the suitors. We have been following societal norms like this for so long it’s been ingrained in our behavior. Statistically speaking? Can you specifically cite these statistics? I’d like to see them. So...what you’re saying is...women aren’t getting orgasms because they’re going home with ugly men, and they’re going home with ugly men because they’re less horny to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:06 PM
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Men have traditionally been the suitors, and thus has been a long standing habit for them to do the actual courting. Again, due to this, women have the options coming to them to turn down. The reason you have to put more effort in is because that’s right now how society works. You’re competing with other men for someone’s attention. You cannot equate the choosing party with the choosee party.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:03 PM
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Eventually as demand outweighs the supply, the permanent supply chain seems lower than it actually is over a period of time. Do women actually want it yes, or has apparent supply shortened over time due to demand? It doesn’t stop men from doing to homes of other men because they ARE BOTH MEN. You can’t compare those statistics because a woman going home with a man is distinct from a man going home with a women. You’re saying women aren’t getting orgasms from a ONS because they’re going home with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:30 AM
1

That’s why AWALT isn’t a common phrase in the red pill social circle then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:02 AM
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Why the fuck do I care about scaring a woman into thinking I’m cheating? I don’t need to play some stupid mind game to get a gal to stay. I date attractive people, and we both fuck each other. I don’t need to make up for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:03 AM
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That doesn’t...help anything though. Because the guys that throw their hat in the ring, you don’t know if they’re the good boyfriend, or just a good lay, or an abusive dick, or what until you dedicate serious time to it. Quantity is a far far cry from quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:02 AM
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Opportunity != success. You can have a thousand server jobs banging down your door to get you to bartend for them but that’s not gonna build your 401k
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:01 AM
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But that involves giving every guy that goes after them a chance. Eventually the girl has to settle up and be exclusive with a guy before she can determine if he’s the guy to be with. Easier said than done, as in any relationship the dynamic changes after the honeymoon phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:00 AM
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I don’t think they want it less as much as they’re more choosy with potential partners. How many guys out there do you think Are after anything with two legs? Take that against the women who have four guys clamoring for her attention (since she’s got both legs), and the fact that a woman going to a strangers house has ended up bad for the woman far more often than any of us are willing to admit, and the fact that many women going for a ONS won’t even achieve orgasm, it’s not surprising women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:57 PM
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It isn't so that the men I know have expressed the fact and often act on the fact that they continue to date women who have had sexual pasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:41 PM
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It's been removed. Regardless, if he's getting the satisfaction that he wants out of a relationship, then why interfere?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:40 PM
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No, because most men aren’t as neurotic. That’s absolutely true. I know very few men who would turn down a woman just because she’s had a sexual past. Those that would are super insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:06 PM
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What? Why would that be cause to avoid dating someone? Just because she had a fling with another guy before me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:03 PM
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There is nothing here that I see wrong until she does direct harm to him. Having a sexual past is fine, as it’s likely my friend or brother has had his fun as well. Is she cheating on him? Is she lying to him? Is she stealing from him? If not, I see no reason why this relationship shouldn’t happen, especially if they are both in love with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:01 PM
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It’s not supposed to work to do anything. Life isn’t about catering to the needs of an individual. It goes on whether you want it to or not. What’s not true about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:39 PM
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I don’t think men should be blamed for it. There’s no real “blame” to be dealt. Why don’t you think what you linked to is reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:14 PM
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Oh I mean I have compassion for it. It sucks that for some men they just simply won’t get what they want, but unfortunately life blows sometimes and deals you a shit hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:09 PM
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Again, I don’t think there is any regime. I don’t disagree with most of this post though, so I guess we can work off that. Why would I feel sorry for people who fail in this reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:05 PM
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I mean, I don’t think there’s a blue regime at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:35 PM
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I agree that average men aren’t going to get Laid as much as average women will (without trying). I agree that men get shorted in most divorce proceedings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:34 PM
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Hoo boy. Okay, I'm back. Still funny, but I'm bummed you didn't continue digging your hole any further. Going into the details/symbolism of the lock and key analogy and the pencil/sharpener analogy is useless. Any wordsmith worth his weight in salt can spin both analogies into a positive or a negative. The point is both analogies are equal in that they attribute bogus value to the number of sexual partners somebody has. To pretend that a virgin woman is always better than a woman with 10, 20, ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 09:38 PM
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What would you call a man who fucks ten women a year?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 04:19 PM
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I know it’s the next day but give me a second to laugh more because seriously you’re embarrassing yourself and I’m just soaking it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 04:18 PM
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This is amazing. Please don’t stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 03:32 AM
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It’s mostly that I’m not sober right now, but in the Uber I just laughed pretty hard at the absurdity of what you said. Don’t let my lack of substance make you think that you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 01:52 AM
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I have nothing for this but an overwhelming eye roll
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 12:04 AM
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I feel like you’re worldview is pretty skewed. This hasn’t been my experience at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:06 PM
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I was gonna skip over this post but when he reminded me that it was ZP I was all “oh shit better listen”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:51 PM
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I’m saying it’s inconsistent to pretend all you want is a loving pure marriage, but would gladly have NSA attaches given the opportunity. Youu can’t get mad at guys for acting the same way you would.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:39 PM
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I’d like to see the source on that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:38 PM
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Have at it! As you can see, it’s really great at shutting up people who actually believe the lock and key bullstuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 04:18 PM
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What is the point? It’s not very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 04:16 PM
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Well that’s just a matter of preference if someone cares about the size of the number. The question is is it inherently wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:45 AM
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But you’re still saying they would. Whether it gets old in a year or in ten, you’re still saying they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:43 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 07:43 AM
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Does that also apply to men? Would men be more likely to commit infidelity after having more sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:06 AM
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A pencil sharpener that sharpens many pencils is a good sharpener, but a pencil that has been sharpened many times becomes useless. You see how dumb that is to compare sex to objects? It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 05:05 AM
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Yeah that’s where you changed your wording. That’s why it’s hard to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 03:38 AM
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I definitely am not changing subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 03:37 AM
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Is something wrong with casual sex like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:54 AM
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Okay? Great. Why would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:53 AM
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Thanks, but I’m not hungry. You don’t need to put those words in my mouth. I’m saying I don’t understand how a man not being the first for a woman diminishes anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:53 AM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:52 AM
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Lol. So if a plate spinning man found a good enough woman you’re saying he’d stop and commit to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:51 AM
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You say that, but in this very thread are men saying that women who have had sex, or women who have had sex with 5 or more men, are unworthy of commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:50 AM
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Would you say the same about a man who has had sex with 20+ women, most of which are one night stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:49 AM
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I see a lot of men complaining about the fact that women aren’t staying virtuous, but how many of these men would sleep with a woman on the first date and then cast her aside?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:48 AM
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I very much disagree. I think a lot of lonely men do want that loving relationship, that to me is certain. But if these men had options and different women throwing themselves at him, as many women do, they’d jump at the chance to have casual NSA sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:46 AM
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And you said they desire wives, but they also don’t desire long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:42 AM
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Everyone has their ways, none of them are accurate. The only way you can tell is if you yourself are watching the dick go inside of her every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:34 PM
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To be fair, a coworker of my sisters is the same way, and the woman goes home alone almost every night. Words don’t always translate into action.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:33 PM
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It’s hard to keep up when your language has been inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:23 PM
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You said that men want respectable and virtuous wives. Do they want to be with women in a long term capacity or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:41 PM
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I just don't see the big deal in having a partner who has had sex before. It doesn't diminish anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:33 PM
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I never understood why plate spinners expect women not to spin plates themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:32 PM
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It's funny to me because I highly doubt these men will want and be with a woman who is virtuous and not try and sleep with her outright. It seems this way based on the number of threads giving advice on how to get women to put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:30 PM
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It really is hilarious to me that so many guys talk about how to have sex with as many women as possible, but women who do have sex with them probably have had sex with other men and are therefore unworthy of commitment. My favorite though is the fact that all of these men want to be part of the cock carousel. They want to be involved, they want to have lots of sex in arguably the prime of their life (late 20s), but admonish women for doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 06:33 PM
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Physical attraction is a horrible way to judge how someone will be in bed. I’ve had great, mind blowing sex with hot girls and plain girls, and I’ve also had mediocre sex with hot girls and plain girls. It all comes down to enthusiasm and passion, which really you’ll only find once you’re in the throes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 01:59 PM
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One, yes. We dated in college and split when we went two different ways. My last serious girlfriend was very big on gifts, which caused a bit of a divide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 01:34 PM
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Time, service, touch. I’m not great with my words and I’m horrible at gifts, giving and receiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 04:23 AM
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Enthusiasm is 100% a factor for me, no question about it. If I’m doing all the work, we’re not getting much past first base before I call it quits and spend the night by myself. Much more enjoyable that way. I don’t need a woman to jump my bones at the sight of me, but if I don’t sense her escalating along with me I’m outskis. It’s a big time turnoff if she’s not into it, and especially if she’s pretending to not be into it to “make me work” or whatever. I’m not here for games, and I will (and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:07 PM
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If she’s not into you, and you ask her out, she says no, you move on. I don’t see the problem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:03 PM
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I suppose my preference would be C cups? So I can be drawn to a moderate to larger breast size for sure, but in terms of whether it affects my willingness to settle with someone that’s a hard no. Personality, adventure, face, humor, among others rank WELL over breast size.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:02 PM
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I mean it always kind of has, but that’s just my opinion. Lots of obvious fan fiction, paranoia, peppered with actual good advice. So much justification for shit actions just because “women are doing it too.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:02 PM
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I like how this user deleted their account when things got too hurty for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 03:21 PM
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Do what thou wilt, but don't bitch if there are consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 03:19 PM
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I see that. I'm just an empathetic person by nature, and I'd be very appreciative if someone did the same for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 03:19 PM
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And he can tell himself that all he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 12:53 AM
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Again, not from my experiences, but okay. And if a scumbag wants to live his life on plan Bs, Cs, and Ds, then more power to him. I’m not a fallback kind of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 12:28 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s my responsibility, but I think it’s perfectly justified to tell someone that they’re being cheated, Be it in regards to a sale, a deal, or a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 12:13 AM
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From what I’ve seen time and time again, scumbags rarely get the girl they want in the end, so I think this is just a fundamental disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:55 PM
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Do you think there are valid excuses to cheat on a significant other repeatedly rather than ending it? If so, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:54 PM
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That’s an interesting phrase you put in my mouth. Not really what I’ve been saying at all. Morality is subjective in most circumstances. I don’t see what your argument is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:44 PM
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Probably for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:43 PM
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So someone who does not appear to be a scumbag will win over someone who does appear to be a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:43 PM
1

I disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:13 PM
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So you’re saying that at face value, women will choose someone who exhibits politeness?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:12 PM
2

Are you asking this question under the assumption that there is a possibility I will justify a murder or theft over infidelity?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:45 PM
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Free will exists, freedom from consequences does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:40 PM
2

So you’re saying the scumbag will pull if he appears to be a guy who is good with manners?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:38 PM
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With some women, probably. In most cases, the former would win.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:02 PM
1

I just feel like if you have looks and money then status is a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:02 PM
1

No? Should it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:01 PM
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Or I've just been lucky to surround myself with friends who don't do it so brazenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 08:04 PM
1

Why not 3? Wouldn’t someone with looks and money gain status?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 07:41 PM
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Nope. Although, “nice guy” and the counterpart are generally visualized as two extremes, where the nice guy will bend over backwards for the girl while the asshole treats her like garbage. In the real world, neither of these are going to really be attractive to the normal woman. However, between two attractive guys, one who is fun, outgoing, and has decent manners vs one who is fun, outgoing, and kind of a scumbag, the former will likely win out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 07:41 PM
3

You've dated the women in those subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 04:25 PM
4

How do you know that the women admonishing cheaters are cheaters themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:03 PM
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So...again...you’re saying that it’s okay to cheat on a woman, because other women cheat. Makes a lot of sense, punishing an individual for the actions of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:23 PM
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You would assume wrong on both accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:27 PM
5

Hell of a leap, man. Hook me up with your leg routine, you must have some pretty sweet quads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:27 PM
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What does this have to do with women and self awareness?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:26 PM
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In person? Probably the one with the better personality. An attractive face gets your foot in the door, which sometimes is enough, but it’s not gonna necessarily get you the interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 12:06 PM
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Interesting strawman. The situation in this story is that the man cheated, and regularly. Just because women also cheat doesn’t mean that the woman in this hypothetical scenario doesn’t need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 11:56 AM
2

Yeah but it’s funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 11:55 AM
3

If that’s your life then enjoy it. I try not to be friends with scumbags.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 11:54 AM
2

Decent friend. I wouldn’t say loaned me money but she definitely had bought me a few rounds in my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 11:54 AM
3

Doesn’t sound like you’re out...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 11:53 AM
4

That’s your thought and that’s fine. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 11:53 AM
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If you’re basing your relationships on schoolyard rules then you’ve got some growing up to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:12 AM
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Again, if a guy I know is proudly and repeatedly cheating on his significant other, then I don’t really care to stay friends with him. He loses my respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:11 AM
8

Okay man. I’ll be over here in the normal side of earth if you wanna get a beer and talk about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:36 AM
16

I feel sorry for your friend’s SOs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:26 AM
5

My argument then might stem differently. I’m talking about a significant other. If in OP’s scenario this is just a fuckbuddy, then that’s overkill. Whatever OP’s Life situation is is unique to his. In my mind losing a friend who regularly cheats on a significant other is no loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:26 AM
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Phenomenal delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:23 AM
11

if a guy I know is repeatedly and enthusiastically cheating on a significant other, I really don’t care to be friends with him in the first place, so no net loss. I don’t think a vast majority of men would cheat like that, so by reasoning and by my own life experiences I have to disagree, as lots of guys want to be and are good friends with me. I’m great at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:06 AM
3

What isn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:03 AM
6

Where am I bringing up zero flaws? Are you replying to the right person?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 02:02 AM
9

I was raised by both parents and have several long lasting male friendships. It falls in the same ballpark because someone who lies like that to a supposed significant other likely has no problem lying to other friends. I take loyalty as is: with people. Men and women. I wouldn’t tell someone about a cheating person for “female approval.” That’s laughable. My actions aren’t driven by how women see me. If that were true, I wouldn’t tell guys if I knew that a woman was cheating on him. I still don…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:56 AM
9

Def not, and I have actually practiced what I preached in the opposite scenario. Girl I knew well was cheating on her fella, and I told him on the DL that something was up. Stopped being her friend after that. Don’t assume I’m one way just because of the pill has indoctrined you to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:46 AM
9

Most of my friends I know their girlfriends on a personal level. So if I know someone who’s cheating on a gal on the regular, he’s not my buddy, and if I barely know his girl, then I probably don’t care that much about him anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:43 AM
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Your first line gave me a really good laugh. I didn’t think it would get funnier, and then it did. “Soyboy” and “cuck” have lost any and all meaning. It has gotten to the point where it just means someone you don’t like. I’m sorry I build my friendships around things other than “who will keep their lips shut when I cheat on my girlfriend” and “who has the highest testosterone.” I’m glad that works out for you, it’s not my MO, and I’m pretty happy about that. I think you know a lot less about me …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:24 AM
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Most people do have a vice. If that vice involves breaking a significant others’ trust then you really aren’t mature enough to be in a relationship in the first place, especially involving infidelity. Telling someone about a bad relationship isn’t about getting something out of the woman, it’s about saving both of them from a shit relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:21 AM
12

That’s a hell of a stretch. Why is not intervening considered integrity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:53 PM
18

Do you think a man should sacrifice integrity for friendship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:05 PM
17

Do you think it’s a big deal if women cheat, if they’re just trying to fuck dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:04 PM
2

Morally wrong? Questionable. Disrespectful? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:20 PM
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If I had a friend of 10 years who was that shady, I would begin to trust him a lot less. If he’s cheating on a girl that often, then how am I being taken advantage of? I don’t necessarily say to cut the guy out of my life right away, but I would probably lose a lot of respect for him, and also tell the girl what’s up. It’s a shitty move and he deserves the consequences, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:19 PM
9

People who say “AWALT” but don’t like the phrase “men are trash” are hypocrites, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 08:38 PM
1

The opposite side of my argument is also true then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 07:27 PM
14

If someone who is upset about “Men are Trash” uses AWALT, that’s some serious illogical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:50 PM
1

I find it flattering when it happens. If I’m not into it, I’m good at politely diffusing. But in most any case I’ll give her a shot and worst case I have a pretty nice conversation with someone who’s into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 04:20 PM
1

You’re putting a looooooot of unnecessary subtext behind “find the best possible partner.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:25 AM
2

Never settle is also not good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:23 AM
2

I’m a boozer, a user, and a loser. I pretty regularly smoke pot, but I’m gonna ween off of that. On other occasions you’ll find me with molly, possibly shrooms or acid (for extra special occasions). I think everyone should try drugs at least once, especially a high powered hallucinogen (provided their state of mind is positive). I think it definitely opens you up a bit more to the world and might help you analyze yourself from a more objective viewpoint. Some (not all) incels I think could benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:51 PM
2

I’m not saying what people do, I’m saying what people say. Other than in cases where someone has objectively too high standards, I’ve never seen anyone give the advice to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:43 PM
2

How is seeking the best equate to settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 10:39 PM
4

I lead a very happy and fulfilling life, and apparently to some I am a Beta. I don’t think I care to be more “dominant” or “higher SMV,” so I guess I’d take the happiness over being some macho dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:17 PM
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Nobody should settle. I haven’t seen anyone (reasonable) say that people should settle. I’ve seen people tell others not to have such ridiculous standards and for good reason, but everyone, men and women, should seek out the best possible partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:15 PM
2

Late 20s, m, no pill Assuming this is a serious relationship but before engagement, it wouldn’t last long. I’m looking for a woman with ambition, and if she can’t find a job that pays minimum wage within a month or so then I’m out. I’d probably give her a little extra if there is an honest search, so I’d say max three months. This is also assuming that she does nothing. A woman who’s ambitious with something but may not be making a fortune from it is still okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 04:06 AM
3

If you pick and choose traits, then all women are not like anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 10:40 PM
2

I know a lot about my sisters. None of them embody the stereotype of women advertised by TRP. Maybe a few categories will hit once or twice, since a broken clock is right twice a day, but no way do they embody those primary archetypes you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 07:09 PM
1

I was bullied a lot, and almost exclusively by boys. If you want to call girls not paying attention to me bullying, then sure, but plenty of girls also took pity on me so I call that a wash.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 11:59 AM
1

In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 03:49 AM
1

Makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:15 PM
1

It’s okay. Right now it’s a lot of database work. Looking to move into a machining role (where I was previously) where I could earn closer to 6 figs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:54 PM
2

I’m in manufacturing, making a little more than 75k per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:41 PM
4

How is it so many people feel women are only obsessed with selfies?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:41 PM
3

Why does this eliminate 85% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:40 PM
5

Do you think the women who lash out is more numerous than the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:31 PM
3

I think you misread the first post. They wrote that the incles who advocate for rape camps will never by sympathized with, while others will be. At no point were all incels lumped into one category.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:28 PM
1

Whoops I tripped and changed my ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:19 PM
1

I'm a better conversationalist. I can relate to people pretty well, possibly due to an acting background. I've got a lot of other interests and can talk to women about more than how hot they are and how cool I am. I also am someone who goes into a night not caring whether I make it with a woman or not. A lot of my friends let that make or break their night, while I couldn't care less. My goal is to have fun. Sort of ironically, it helps me spend the night with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:40 PM
1

That's fine for the rest of the world. No skin off my nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:37 PM
1

You underestimate the unwillingness of people to try
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 04:02 PM
1

However people perceive me eating box is on them. Tying a girl down and making her squirm is some dominant shit. I feel super submissed when getting a blowey
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:57 PM
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Maybe. I'm just here to give my experience. I don't ask for a woman's number after 20 minutes, and I definitely don't ask for more than maybe 3 in a night. I feel like at that point I'd be just number hawking, and I wouldn't even know who was who. I'm saying that I'll ask numbers from women I feel a genuine connection with, and a fair amount of the time they'll offer me theirs. My more "alpha" friends don't have this experience, because they spend their time trying to be the biggest and best man…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 06:14 PM
1

I mostly count it for myself as more substantial than that. I don't ask for numbers super often, and about half the time it's the woman offering her number. Most lead to at least some conversation after.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:35 PM
1

Okay, but I’m not counting getting a number by just asking women for it randomly. That’s not genuine at all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 05:07 PM
3

A relationship that involves “power” sounds like a fucking miserable life. Men with alpha and beta traits are extremely common, and any of them worth their weight in salt will pass up your “power struggle/control” relationship in a heartbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 03:50 PM
1

How is it different from how much sex men have?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 03:46 PM
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The whole “alpha” and “beta” with respect to human social interaction is a giant bucket of steamed dogshit. Almost every man I’ve met who has declared himself alpha is typically really insecure and is moderate to terrible with women. Two guys I know have laughed at me for being “beta” and “pussy shy,” and yet still don’t get why I get women’s numbers and they never do. I believe that it’s all very fluid. Men can take control of some situations but may fall back in a follower role in others. Guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 03:44 PM
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A man can looksmax all he wants, but more often than you think if he’s lame a woman will pass on him for a more interesting, but less attractive guy. Speaking as a “soy-boy skinny jean hipsterfag,” I’ve got friends who are a lot more physically fit and traditionally good looking than I am, and I make up for that in my own ways. It’s not hard to set myself apart from them at all, and I’d say we’re pretty evenly split as women attraction to us goes. People, in general, are boring. Make yourself in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 01:33 PM
1

I don’t think it does make me more submissive at all. I’m holding a woman down, making her lose control when she finishes. At the risk of sounding like the posts on r/ihavesex, I’m good at it, and the occasional time render a woman totally useless, where she tells me she needs a break, and she’s just a shivering mess, I feel pretty powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 01:06 PM
1

Super false. I don’t think you’ll find anyone who thinks that men cannot be unhappy in a relationship. TBP criticizes TRP not for leaving a relationship, but for being cold and shitty at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:46 PM
2

Overall I’d say I’m at a 3. I think it definitely does work on broken people, and it can work on unbroken but naive people, but ultimately it’s negative and selfish manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:44 PM
0

I’d rather her lead a successful and fulfilling life. If how she does that is through how many men she has sex with, so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:43 PM
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A “meh” guy she meets at a bar will probably stay “meh.” There’s not much more he can do other than drink and talk. However, a “meh” guy she meets at a library may seem also well read, a “meh” guy at a marathon may also seem physically fit, and a “meh” guy at a networking event may seem successful and well connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:40 PM
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100% I think for me it’s a powerful situation. She submisses to me and what I do. Plus I get a lot of enjoyment making a woman finish. Not all, but most women I’ve been with were unable to finish by PIV, or I just didn’t last long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:37 PM
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I’m not sure what the rankings are here. Chastity really has no affect on my attraction towards a partner. A woman can have been with 100 guys before me, but if she’s loyal, attractive, intelligent, and with a good sense of humor, I’m picking her. Before an inevitable question arises, I don’t think I’ll ever have to deal with the circumstance where I’m in front of two of the exact same women and one is a virgin. Frankly, if that were the case, I’d choose the one with more experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 06:34 PM
3

So what’s stopping people from pulling out? How are you going to enforce people getting back alley abortions? Incentive isn’t enforcement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 07:03 PM
1

Do you not have a way that would be enforced? Because that’s necessary for your society to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:31 PM
4

And how would that be enforced?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:46 AM
4

What about the fact that condoms greatly reduce the spread of STDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 03:08 AM
1

So the childless tax would go on top of all the other taxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 02:22 AM
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How is that unvelievable? This world sounds awful. Way too much big government, and I’m saying this as a democrat. There is no part of that that seems doable, sustainable, practical, or beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 12:22 AM
2

I'll take a fun gal who I can share weekend activities with over a boring gal with physical benefits 100 times out of 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 05:43 PM
2

Man there is just no way I'd be into that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 03:35 PM
3

I wouldn't necessarily count them out, some of my lady friends I started out attracted to, or vice versa, and we've kind of moved through that. But I'm someone for whom non-physical traits will negate physical attraction. I'm actually about to go to a wedding where we are both friends who are attracted to each other, live in different states. We'll see how that goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 03:31 PM
3

So you can see yourself with a woman who has a boring personality as long as there is a physical relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 03:10 PM
1

No, what I mean is, that's every friendship. A friendship between two males is, really, a relationship without sexual tension. I don't think it's hard to find that with the opposite sex, but I also don't think it's uncommon that it's there in at least one direction. Exception has the subtext that it's a lot rarer than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 03:09 PM
3

Would you want to be in a relationship with a gender you find mostly super boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:22 PM
2

Well, yeah, isn’t that friendship? A relationship without sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:19 PM
1

Absolutely. I have plenty of ladyfriends and it’s beneficial to me and I enjoy their company. There isn’t any sexual tension, so I don’t have that kind of issue that gets brought up frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:16 PM
3

Why shouldn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:14 PM
4

It’s gonna depend on him, really. In my opinion, you’re doing the right thing, bringing up the fact that you’re not looking to date or hook up or anything. Getting groups together to do activities is a good idea, and avoiding one on one scenarios. However, many men might see this as a game, like you’re playing hard to get. It won’t be surprising if he does make a pass, or if he doesn’t and you eventually do date someone else, he might get offended that he wasn’t notified that he wasn’t aware you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 02:41 PM
1

Went to an all boys school, so nothing of the sort there. As far as college, I had girlfriends, and told them I was a virgin. So there was no “one-itis” whatever happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 03:28 AM
1

I mean, she looked real good in it. Made it work. Not my thing, but mad respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 03:58 PM
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I'm here, telling you that it's not the case. It also wasn't the case for the people I was friends with. I was absolutely virgin by choice until 24
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 03:13 PM
4

Not necessarily. I and several college friends were virgins by choice into our mid twenties. I was propositioned by really attractive women and I turned it down each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 02:01 PM
1

Some people say that women use sex to manipulate, to get what they want, withholding or giving as an exchange. For some men, that can work, but it’s onlh relative to their own self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:49 PM
1

The last tuxedo girl I saw was actually not. She’s just an edgy dresser.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 01:48 PM
1

I think it’s overvalued for sure. Overrated, I’m not so sure. It’s fun, exciting, arousing, and overall enjoyable. But there isn’t as much power behind sex as people say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 03:27 AM
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I’d say believe it still. Keep your virginity until you’re good and ready. It’s fun to lose, but still good to keep. Good luck to you man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 07:20 AM
2

I lost my virginity about 6 months after I turned 24. It started by religious choice, especially also dating a fellow virgin in college. We unfortunately broke up, moved on, still never having had sex. From then on it was still partly religious partly habit. I definitely had that feeling of missing out. Slowly it became entirely a choice for me. Religion might not be involved, but to me it was still a big step I didn’t want to take lightly. I had a conversation with a girl I barely knew about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:20 PM
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It’s obviously going to depend on the guy. Having something that sets you apart with generally result in a little more attention than if you were wearing the same as anyone else. Standing out is good, to a point. A girl wearing, say, a leather jacket when everyone else is in sweaters might catch my eye, but I wouldn’t go for a girl wearing a tuxedo. It depends on the situation, and what kind of guy you want to attract
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:15 PM
1

I know she isn’t. That still doesn’t make her opinion wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 11:45 AM
1

You said “to you, what makes a woman fun?” Different men find different things fun in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:39 AM
3

That’s incredibly apt
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 01:15 AM
1

Bingo. I love spontaneity, it’s definitely a key feature I look for in a woman, so I guess I’d choose that, but I definitely want a little of both
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 01:14 AM
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“What’s your opinion on what you find fun?” answer “Wrong. It’s this.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 01:13 AM
1

As a man, Yes and no. I have one who talked about how he thinks he has a sex addiction, since he pumps and dumps fairly often and wants to change it. But he also on the other hand lives for himself, and doesn’t do the whole “game” thing. He drinks with us, not to pick up women. Another is about to get married, and actually asked me to be his wingman when he was single. He doesn’t like picking up random women at bars, so he didn’t know what to do when he started getting the lonelies after not bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 06:37 PM
1

Yes and no. I have one who talked about how he thinks he has a sex addiction, since he pumps and dumps fairly often and wants to change it. But he also on the other hand lives for himself, and doesn’t do the whole “game” thing. He drinks with us, not to pick up women. Another is about to get married, and actually asked me to be his wingman when he was single. He doesn’t like picking up random women at bars, so he didn’t know what to do when he started getting the lonelies after not being with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:49 PM
2

Hey wyd
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 04:08 PM
1

Okay, I see what you mean. Also shitting though. That’s gross. Only I can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 04:08 PM
2

swearing...drinking like a man Be still my heart. I’d propose on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:55 PM
2

1) stupidity and especially ignorance. I’ve been with a few women who are kind of dumb, which I don’t like, and a handful who would say things like “math is so pointless,” which I can’t stand. Not knowing something is one thing, but refusing to learn is an instant cut off. 2) Women who can “read your thoughts.” A friend of mine does this and I can’t stand it. We hung out last weekend, and she said something that I didn’t really have a reaction to, because we were at a concert. She turned to anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:53 PM
1

Same answer really as the other one. Immoral might be a strong word, and it’s a tough fence to sit on, but in most circumstances I would say it’s a low thing to do to leave them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 01:10 AM
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No, that’s a pretty good sign. The times I’ve seen women do that to me I approach and get positive results every time. One woman even said “finally!” After I introduced myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:21 PM
2

For sure. Women touching is probably the biggest one. There’s also not looking away when she laughs (shows she’s laughing with you and not nervous laughter) and longer we contact. The hairplay thing I’ve heard but like another user said it’s not uncommon for that to just be the way someone fidgets
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:20 PM
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Because it's someone asking for a favor, and someone who I care about. I know I don't have to, and I have every right to say no, but to develop a habit of only doing things when I benefit is selfish and no way to go through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 07:35 PM
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I mean, I don’t owe my sister a ride to the airport when she asks me, but it’s still a shitty thing to do if otherwise I’m just on the couch
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 05:33 PM
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That’s a bad way to think about it, just because you think women would do it doesn’t mean that it’s okay. You’re bringing a new viewpoint into this that is baseless
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 05:31 PM
5

I’m over Facebook but I can’t bring myself to delete it. I really should
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 02:12 PM
3

I guess I just see the bigger picture of it. Trump cut my taxes by an extremely slim margin, only for them to bounce back in 2024 if the bill is still the same as it was when I last read about it. I agree that people should keep a larger chunk of their income, but government-funded projects can only go so far without taxpayer help. There is a lot the government is spending money on that I find completely unnecessary, and that still affects my taxes in a major way. This is not a new trend though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 08:46 PM
2

Even if it comes to affect you and your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 07:25 PM
6

There’s laughing at someone, and laughing with someone. Many laugh at trump because he’s pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:29 PM
2

Just because a woman laughs at your jokes, doesn’t mean she’s gonna fuck you. I don’t know where you get this idea. Again, you’re laughing at the comedian. You find him charming. That doesnt make trump charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:28 PM
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You’re confusing the impersonator with trump. The impersonator, by definition, is very much aware of what he’s saying, and how ridiculous it is. Trump is not. You find the impersonator sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:26 PM
1

Should I say “interesting presence”?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:01 PM
1

Game is being able to hold a conversation. Game is being interested, and interesting. Game is being more than just easy on the eyes, but fun to be around. The hotter the girl, the more guys are going to be gunning for her. She has options now. Does she choose the really hot guy who is like talking to a brick wall, or the pretty good looking guy who has an interesting background and is a good conversationalist? 9/10 Times, she chooses the more interesting one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:12 AM
1

That's why I emphasized a girl vs any girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 02:59 PM
3

Generally the more attractive the woman is the more you need to actually have a good personality to go with your looks. While you might get the initial attention of a woman, if you sit there and just flex your muscles she’s going to move on to someone more interesting. The more universally attractive a woman is, the more guys are going to be chasing her, and the more you have to set yourself apart from all the others. All in all though, if the only thing you’re looking for in a woman is “hot,” y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:56 AM
2

Uh, definitely no. This is absurd dystopian drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:58 AM
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Obviously it depends on the woman, but a guy who keeps in good shape will attract a larger majority. That’s not to say there’s a point where you never need game. A guy in peak physical condition can go out and take home a girl, possibly any night he goes out, without having any game. However, he can’t get any girl. Basically it comes down to the type of girl you want to attract
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:56 AM
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100% Sex is far more enjoyable for me if I get her off. Bonus perk is that she might be more likely to come back if she also had an enjoyable time. If I know for certain that we’d never see each other again, I’d still say yes. Again, just generally more enjoyable that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 09:09 PM
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How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 03:38 PM
5

Man you’re adding a lot of dimensions to this on your own
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 01:02 AM
1

Sure, but no man can know his full potential without trying. You can’t pick out an average kid and know with certainty that he would or would not grow up to be a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 12:58 AM
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So...you're saying that Chad not putting the work in becomes average. Why is the opposite not true, that the average man putting in the work could become Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:14 PM
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He's only an accountant. He goes to the gym twice a week, and he has 100 IG followers. Still Chad? Or average?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 10:08 PM
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So if, say, Aaron Rodgers missed some deadline and ended up as an accountant instead of a star quarterback, do you think he’d be a Chad or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:19 PM
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I'd be willing to bet serious money you've met attractive lesbians and just didn't realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:41 PM
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I think the only way to actually change your view is for you to go out and meet some actual lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:27 PM
1

Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:25 PM
4

Chad is a stupid concept to begin with. I figured that the whole idea behind the red pill is to maximize one’s own potential
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:24 PM
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Not always. Possibly, but generally not. I think the “rules” of courtship are generally pretty stupid, I don’t see a reason why women should not approach a guy they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:28 PM
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The issue is you need to ask this to a woman who thinks dick pics are gross and sends unsolicited pics herself. Until then there’s no double standard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:26 PM
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Unsolicited pics are generally unwanted, especially of private parts. I don’t know the exact figures, but I doubt the number of unsolicited pussy pics even compares to the number of dick pics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 04:24 PM
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Why don’t you approach men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:20 AM
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To your one point, are you upset that women don’t like unsolicited dick pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:18 AM
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Nothing, huh? I guess you didn’t really read up on your own links to realize that they didn’t support your viewpoint. Thanks for the entertainment!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:50 AM
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First, up until now, you had only posted one link in this thread. Don't pretend that you've presented a swath of information before now. Now, onto your links: The tinder experiments I've seen are all the same, that women get matches super easily and men don't. But have you ever seen a man on tinder vs a woman? Men generally will swipe right on literally every profile they see. Women generally are more selective. Even in my own personal life I know three guys right off the bat who, every 24 hours…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:57 PM
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I can count on one hand the women I’ve heard say something like that, and one of them is actively single. Your world sounds like a bad 90s movie
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 05:18 PM
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Disagree by personal experience. Many women I know in their 30s either started dating a guy who was just the right person for them or the guys they’ve gone out with are pretty terrible matches, if they try at all. A lot of people in their 30s hit a point where they’re pretty content being single, and without a major spark they don’t see the need to pursue anything major
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 05:16 PM
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So then why did you post your link if it's not even what you're talking about? Nothing that you've said is supported by anything other than your hard opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:11 PM
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Your link says that, for millennial women, 11% were not faithful, vs 10% of men. Given that the margin of error is likely more than 1%, this does not support your assessment that women trade up more than men, for those in this age bracket. For older people, it skews much more towards men. Check out the study that your article leads to: https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america How does this support your theory at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:54 PM
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Fair, you said men "rarely" seek out higher status women. However, would you disagree that men seek out more attractive women just as often as women seek out higher status men? 1% is hardly a measure of being more willing. A difference of 1% is negligible, especially in an opinion survey where the margin of error is likely greater than the difference. If anything, the article states that men are more likely to go to a different partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:40 PM
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I mean hypergamy in general, that women are so willing to leave a partner or cheat on a partner with someone better, or that men want to "collect" women. For some that may be true, but to call it nature or the norm doesn't add up. That relationships are about winning and losing. From my life experience none of that computes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 03:43 PM
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That all just doesn't sound right at all in my experience, but whatever suits you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 03:06 PM
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Makes sense to me. You seem to be seeing what you want. There are many women who act like you say, and many women who don’t. You cannot rightly assume which is the hefty majority from your limited viewpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 02:43 PM
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So you’re not saying anymore that men “rarely” seek out more attractive partners? Because from the studies you provided, that would indicate that women, too, “rarely” seek out higher status men. Furthermore, you can't really confidently conclude that women are "more willing to engage" when the difference between the genders between ages 18-29 is only one percent, and also that it's shown to be more likely for the man to cheat as the age bracket increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 01:56 PM
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I’m not asking in comparison to women. You said something along the lines of men will “rarely” do this, which is what I’m asking you to clarify. Your link definitely won’t support it if you’re saying “rarely in comparison to women,” because it says that 11% of women have cheated vs 10% of men. A whopping 1% It also says older men are far more likely to have cheated than women. Frankly I don’t see how your article supports your point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 11:18 PM
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Great, that’s also not what I’m asking. Are you saying that men don’t actively seek out more attractive partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 10:04 PM
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I'm just going off an assumption that you would dislike hypergamy in women, apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:47 PM
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So you're saying that they're not a myth then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:46 PM
5

Great, that's not what I'm asking. Are you saying that men don't actively seek out more attractive partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:46 PM
1

In what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:10 PM
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Is that any better than hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:09 PM
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You’re saying that men rarely seek out more attractive women, even while in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 09:09 PM
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Fair, but I enjoy the ceremony of it. Or at least the idea of it. I’d like to get married, but I’m in no rush and I’m not dead set on doing it. I’ve made no dating efforts in the past few weeks because the bachelor life is right for me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 05:14 PM
1

For me personally the reward well outweighs the risk
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 02:18 PM
4

Wait what? Where did the police get involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:38 PM
6

Quite the logical leap...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:37 PM
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Male here. Dude was kind of a dick in that scenario. Even if nobody asked me to bring anything, I would absolutely bring beer or wine if someone else was making me dinner. That’s just common courtesy. If he “smirked” and intentionallydidnt bring wine because he’s cheap, serving him the meal would be doing him a favor. This isn’t anything about “a man should provide this” or anything, it’s more about courtesy and a give and take relationship. The woman is way more savage than I would have expecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:36 PM
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Fair point, but statistics of human behavior are incredibly variable and within your control. Buying a lottery ticket gives a numerical chance, but it’s not like marrying a person gives a numerical chance of divorce. It depends on the behavior and compatibility of the couple, among a myriad of other things
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:31 PM
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I read that in most cases that the divorce stat is padded by repeat divorces. I’ll try and find my source, but when a person is part of a divorce, the next marriage is more statistically likely to also end in divorce than the first marriage, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 04:41 PM
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Field reports read like a 13 year olds wet dream. They’re the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 05:42 PM
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Again, you’re pairing apples with oranges here. Wanting to date women 20 years your junior =creepy Wanting to specifically date a virgin = creepy Now, I don’t think anyone is going to disagree that a super high n count is unattractive on both ends. I see a lot of men say that women regularly shame them for that thought, and personally I’ve never seen it. I’ve seen both men and women get a side eye when their own n count is high, but I think it only comes into play when there is hypocrisy (say, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:16 PM
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Those two views aren’t hypocritical though. I don’t see how they contradict each other at all. If you have a good point buried in there somewhere, which you may, it’s buried under a weird use of wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 12:19 PM
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I don’t see how this comparison is apt at all. Thinking it’s creepy to want to be with a woman 20 years your junior and thinking it’s creepy to want a virgin (aside from religious reasons, potentially) are pretty much in the same ballpark. You’re just coming at it from two different directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 05:04 PM
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This is a stretch. By this logic, causing someone discomfort, almost any interaction you have with another person is unethical, and that’s blatantly false. Approaching another woman and asking her how her night is is neither ethical or unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 02:36 PM
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People are going to have opinions about things, and either express them indirectly or directly. A lot of people have your argument of “why is it creepy if it’s legal?” It’s essentially asking someone “why don’t you like the taste of something when it’s edible?” To say that having an opinion of something you see indicates you “don’t have your own life” is ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 02:33 PM
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Right, there’s a difference between legality and finding something creepy. Finding something creepy on TRP is no different from finding something creepy on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 03:35 AM
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Yeah but nobody is arguing legality, they’re arguing what they personally find kind of creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:55 PM
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There are women I find good looking that I don’t want to fuck. Sex goes well beyond physical attributes for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 02:32 PM
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I don’t think it’s women on this sub. I think you’re going to find this sentiment everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 02:31 PM
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