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I agree -- the whole experience is quite enjoyable. I'm actually glad I find cigarettes disgusting when sober, otherwise I could easily see myself becoming addicted to them. I like smokey flavors as well. For some reason I just can't get into vaping. I have friends who vape and I've taken a couple of puffs when drinking. It's just not satisfying, and weirdly it seems to make my throat scratchier than cigarettes do (maybe I'm allergic to some of the flavors or something, I have a lot of weird foo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 05:26 AM
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Heh, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 04:25 AM
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Feminism doesn't deserve to be called a theory, it isn't a scientific theory Right, because that's not what theory means in this context, like I said. Ever heard of musical theory? Film theory? Pedagogical theory? "Theory" in the context feminists use it means a framework for thought and practice, not a scientific theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 02:29 AM
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That sounds perfect! I'll check them out. Any recommendations?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:34 AM
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"Rush" is probably the wrong word because it's not a burst of energy. It's more just a cool, relaxing effect "rushing" over my whole body. It especially makes head and face feel tingly and cool. But like I said, I've literally never had a smoke when sober so it could be the effects of the alcohol combined with the nicotine. Also I'm probably more sensitive to it because aside from alcohol (which I drink rarely, 3-5 times a year) I don't really partake of drugs, not even caffeine. So I'm sure nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:33 AM
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Yeah I don't like the sweet smells either. Vanilla and honey - yuck. When it comes to"girly" scents I like really subtle, fresh smells like cucumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:06 PM
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I was a little rude to you in the other thread (sorry) but just wanted to say I've enjoyed your comments in this thread immensely. Stoner logic drives me crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:43 PM
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When you smoke a menthol cigarette, you realize you're not inhaling menthol "smoke" right? Oh my god, yes, obviously. But the menthol gives a cooling effect when you inhale. Whiskey burns, and the cooling effect feels good afterward. THE NICOTINE RUSH FEELS GOOD TOO, I'm not denying or oblivious to that, but there's a reason I specifically like menthols after drinking whiskey and am not interested in cigarettes otherwise. If you want to inhale menthol vapor deeply all you do is bring Vick's clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:20 PM
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Thanks for the tips! And yeah, I'm always down for an excuse to drink various whiskeys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:11 PM
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Ah, I can't see flairs on mobile so I didn't catch that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:06 PM
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I'm not denying that the nicotine is a factor at all, I'm just saying that's not the only or main appeal otherwise I wouldn't prefer menthols to regular cigarettes. There's also a difference in the feeling of actually inhaling something deeply vs. just sniffing it (or even inhaling deeply through the nose), so obviously just sniffing some Vicks wouldn't be the same. But yes obviously the nicotine rush adds to the overall experience, not sure why you're trying so hard to explain how cigarettes wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:02 PM
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I've heard that too. No idea if it's true. I smoke like twice a year, if that, so I'm not too concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 08:00 PM
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Me too, mostly because floral scents make me sick. I prefer woodsy and citrusy smells.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:57 PM
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Wtf? I was just commenting on that combo of scents and saying I bet it smells good, but thanks for calling me a slut, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:55 PM
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Yeah I saw you mention this elsewhere and thought it was a good point. I've never thought of it like that before but it's so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:53 PM
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So why do men raised by single mothers grow up to be betafied pussy boys (according to TRP)? If women are forcing masculinity on their sons so hard, those boys should be the most masculine of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:51 PM
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It's called feminist theory for a reason. Men being responsible for existing gender roles is just a guess That's not what theory means in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:46 PM
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No, it's the cooling effect that I really like. The actual physical sensation, not the nicotine rush (although that's nice too.) I should specify that I usually smoke menthols.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:26 PM
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I definitely need to do that. My boyfriend smokes cigars occasionally. He has a birthday coming up, maybe I'll buy him some and try one :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:09 PM
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...among people who vote on YouTube videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:02 PM
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OK but they didn't, so obviously feminism isn't all that powerful. Also you said feminism made electing the first female president possible, not that it made people think it was possible. If that's what you meant you should phrase things more clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:00 PM
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I enjoy the occasional cigarette when I drink whiskey, which is weird because when I'm sober or drinking anything else I find the smell of cigs absolutely repulsive. But something about the burn of whiskey followed by the coolness of a cigarette is heavenly. Never smoked weed in my life, but most of my friends do, including my SO. A few of my friends smoke cigarettes too, but most have quit or switched to vaping.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:54 PM
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Yeah I could see that. I don't know how people live in such places lol. It would be depressing to me. It was 35 degrees in Austin last week and I was bundled up like Ralphie's brother in A Christmas Story. Where I grew up (West TX) we do have winters - snow and ice a couple times a year - but nothing like what you're describing. However we also frequently have 30+mph winds and sandstorms which make it impossible to have a good time outdoors. Austin has spoiled me I suppose, it's a great place to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 05:22 PM
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The argument that male-branded beauty products are evidence of "masculinity so fragile" has always been stupid to me. There are tons of needlessly female-branded products (razors, moisturizer, hell someone downthread mentioned pink tools. I've even seen pink guns and camo!) Does that mean femininity is fragile? It's marketing, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:58 PM
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So you just disproved your own point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:47 PM
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That sounds amazing actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:45 PM
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Terpers hate masculinity. They assume a strong, masculine man is a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:41 PM
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Oh I absolutely do, I've had tons of conversations with my girlfriends about it. One of the reasons I think AFBB is hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:26 PM
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Yes, I agree. But like I said, I've been told that he is based on no other info besides "he had casual sex." For some people here the bar for what makes a guy Chad is ridiculously low.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:24 PM
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True, I guess growing up in an inner city would make these things harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:13 PM
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Sure, people are going to spend less time outside during the winter, that's to be expected. But winter is one season.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:12 PM
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It's basically the law that you have to. I favor reasonable gun control measures, I'm not a "gun nut," but I grew up around hunters so they've just always been a part of my life and gun safety was drilled into my head from the time I was old enough to understand it. I learned to shoot at like 10. I'm too much of a weenie to actually kill an animal (although I don't have a problem with it; we had meat from a deer my brother killed for Christmas dinner yesterday) but target shooting can be a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:09 PM
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I was trying to list cheap/free things which kind of rules out skiing lol, but yes that is an option too. "Winter" where I live is like two days of 40-degree weather. I guess I need to check my southern privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:05 PM
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Do cities not have parks where you can play frisbee or bocce ball? Do they not have swimming pools, basketball courts or recreational softball leagues? Half the activities I listed can easily be done in an urban environment. Excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 04:00 PM
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Exactly! Get a telescope and learn about astronomy, that's fun as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:59 PM
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it makes electing "the first female president" possible Apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:54 PM
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I've fucked outside before Haha, I was actually using "fuck" as an exclamation there, not as a verb/suggestion for an outside activity (I can see how that wasn't clear.) But now that you mention it, yes, fucking outside is also a fun activity I recommend! Hard to agree with someone with a blue flair but what can I say? You aren't wrong. We're not wrong about everything :P But in all seriousness, I can't wrap my mind around someone asking in earnest how you have fun outside. Like, have they ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:22 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "easily" I guess. He was not the type to just snap his fingers and get a girl to drop her panties. He also wasn't the type to pursue tons of casual sex and generally preferred relationships. But when we met he had a FWB thing going on with an attractive girl. I'd wager at least 75% of the guys I know could say the same at some point in their lives. They can't all be Chads, unless we're dilluting the definition of Chad to the point where it's basically meaningless. Whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:57 AM
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I agree with you, but there are others on this sub who would say we are wrong as no non-Chad man can get laid casually. That's the point ozy was trying to make; despite your personal definition, the concept of Chad is wildly distorted and disputed around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:54 AM
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Preach. So ridiculous. A year ago I was working two jobs and in grad school and still spent an hour a day outside most days. "I can't go outside because I have a job." Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:35 AM
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Hike, fish, kayak/paddle board, swim, camp, have a picnic, shoot hoops, build a bonfire and sit around it shooting the shit with your friends, paintball fight, water balloon fight, snowball fight, grill out, float a river (do non-Texans do this???), play kickball/bocce ball/volleyball/softball/frisbee/tennis, run, or fuck, just go for a walk. How is this even a question? I'm baffled. Also yes, shooting guns is fun as shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:34 AM
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I've been told that my boyfriend -- who I frequently describe here as literally the nicest person I've ever met in my life -- is a Chad because he was able to have casual sex in college. Clearly not everyone shares your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 05:11 AM
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This is my experience in other subcultures as well. In high school and college I hung out with two groups - hardcore/emo kids and country rednecks (and these two subgroups actually overlap more than you might think, at least where I'm from, which is a somewhat unique environment.) Guys in those scenes weren't jocks or muscle bros. In fact a lot of the rednecks were straight-up fat with beer guts. If they worked at all they were blue collar guys, waited tables or else they were "artists." Like th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:35 AM
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Yeah because women have a biological response when sitting in a bar, but shove a screen in front of them and they react 100% different. You're joking but this is literally the truth. A guy's presence, voice, mannerisms and the way he carries himself -- things that can't be gleaned from a static photo -- are a huge part of his initial sex appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 02:12 AM
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I read that a couple weeks ago! Great book.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 08:16 PM
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No I'm not. I don't think it's harsh. I think it's a neutral statement of fact and I'm struggling to see how it could be anything else. My bf and I playfully insult each other constantly so it's not like it's a foreign concept to me. "Idiot" is literally our only pet name for each other. I just don't see how "Your roots are showing" is an insult or a joke. Maybe it's because I don't dye my hair so I don't know what the implication of this statement is. Idk, just don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 06:19 PM
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Honestly TRP seems to hate masculinity as much as the most militant radfem. They read "masculine man" and immediately think of a violent, roided out drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:50 AM
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But doesn't it go against AFBB theory if I liked sensitive nerds in my youth and started preferring masculine men as I got older? According to TRP I should have been chasing the masculine guys when I was young and then settled down with a sensitive nerd. Also, why do you conflate masculine with bad boys? I've never gone for bad boys. My SO is very masculine and also a very good, kind person and very family-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 01:43 AM
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It could be argued they're harder to please because they aren't satisfied with just one partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 10:13 PM
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So which of those things you listed did your ex-gf do? It wasn't at all clear from your story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 05:51 PM
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How is "your roots are showing" funny? I don't find it offensive but it's also not anything resembling a joke. Explain why it's humorous, I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 05:43 PM
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Huh? I didn't say you banned anything. I genuinely don't feel capable of answering the question so I posted my thoughts under the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:58 PM
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Same. I've done almost a complete 180 in terms of what I'm attracted to since my teens. Ironically though I went from liking skinny, gay-looking nerds to more masculine guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:54 PM
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I think it's hard to answer the question because (aside from same sex relationships) we don't experience relationships with our own sex. I know I've done things in my relationships that even my closest friends don't know about and wouldn't expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:47 PM
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That was literally not an ad hominem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:44 PM
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No, I was never under the delusion that guys liked shy girls even though they sometimes said they did (and that's not something I heard much IRL anyway, I mostly see it on the internet.) It was blaringly obvious to me from puberty onward that my shyness was not an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:54 AM
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A lot of people here have a really narrow definition of attraction that basically boils down to "makes my dick hard."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:10 PM
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If you don't think you're good enough for me why would I think you're good enough for me. YES. This is exactly why confidence is attractive (or at least good to have) in a partner. If you're constantly telling me what a worthless piece of shit you are, at some point I'm going to start believing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:09 PM
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Yeah this is my interpretation too (granted, I've never read the actual book so there could be something I'm missing there, but I'm familiar enough with the theory.) It's helped me appreciate things my boyfriend does that I might have taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:00 PM
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Confidence and pride aren't the same thing. Confidence is sitting down for a test believing that you'll pass because you put in the work and studied. Pride is not studying but thinking you'll pass because you already know your shit and you're smarter than the professor anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:00 PM
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I still can't say confidence is in and of itself sexually attractive to me, but certainly a lack of it as you pointed out (because of anxiety) can be unattractive. Yeah, this makes sense to me. As a woman I think a healthy amount of confidence is important to have not necessarily because it's attractive to men, but because it increases your chances of getting noticed and pursued in the first place. As for the eye contact thing - yeah... I still have to make a conscious effort, lol. I've been on …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:57 PM
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This is the most alpha shit I've ever read. Swooning rn
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:53 PM
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Sure you say that until Stacy comes along and then you're snorting blow off her tits in the bathroom of the club. If you say you don't like Stacy it's just because you've never met Stacy, or you're just salty because you couldn't get her (probably because you're fat and have blue hair.) NO MAN can resist Stacy. AMALT!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:39 PM
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So many people here are conflating confidence and arrogance, it's weird. Guys say they'd rather date a girl who's a little insecure, until she breaks his phone because she saw him texting someone else, or she makes him check in with her every half hour so she can keep tabs on him. Then she's "crazy." Guess what? Confident women don't do that shit, insecure ones do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:36 PM
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Haha, see, I feel like most guys are like you. And there's nothing wrong with that! I just always have to side-eye men who say they love "shy" women because I was shy, and it got me nothing. IN FACT, I even had the dreaded "c word" (creepy) used to describe me on several occasions because of my closed-off body language and avoidance of eye contact. Guys don't like that, they find it off-putting and weird (which it is!) Once I got my anxiety under control and became more confident and outgoing, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:31 PM
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I'm not saying they were wrong to do it. It's what I would do in the same situation, probably. I'm just saying I haven't seen the "Guys loooove shy girls" thing play out in my personal life. It seems when most guys say shy they don't mean shy (i.e. socially anxious), they mean sweet, soft-spoken, unassuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:07 PM
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This. Guys always say they love shy girls, and I'm sure some of them do (although I think it's usually more feigned shyness and demureness they like more than actual shyness brought on by social anxiety.) But speaking as someone who used to be genuinely, painfully shy, more often than not guys interpreted my shyness as disinterest and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:42 PM
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Why didn't you just break up with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:37 AM
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"If they'll cheat WITH you, they'll cheat ON you" -my mom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:34 AM
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I was gonna say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:13 AM
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Female, straight, TX, lower middle class, moderately attractive (5 or 6/10), 28. I've always had a bit of trouble getting relationships. I've had three boyfriends - one I dated from 18-20 (lost my virginity to him), one I dated briefly at 22, and my current SO who I've been with for four years and plan to marry next summer (I guess that makes him a fiance but we're not doing an official engagement.) I always seem to end up in the "little sister zone" (I think /u/drunkgirl69 coined this term.) Gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:08 AM
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Red Pillers are apparently the ones who think mere contact with a penis defiles a woman, ask them. Seems pretty misandrist 2 me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 03:46 AM
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That's more dependent on the girl in question than the guy though. Most girls who aren't inclined to have immediate casual sex with a stranger aren't going to change their behavior for Chad. And girls who are inclined toward such behavior will probably be less selective so the guy who inspires it may or may not be Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 01:31 AM
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"Penises are icky and evil" -TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 07:40 PM
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If anything I'd say wanting to have "validating sex" with someone who "desires you" is historically novel and most likely not a product of evolution. You think the cavemen or Genghis Khan were worried about such things? And even after rape became taboo, people were still marrying for purposes of progeny and consolidating wealth, not for sexual desire. Arranged marriages still exist today in many places. The vast majority of human history has seen people having sex for reasons other than raw sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:58 PM
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I have never met a gender studies major in my life. My college didn't even offer gender studies classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:37 PM
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feminine and to not be a nag These things fall outside the umbrella of "looks" my guy. Thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:27 PM
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Who said anything about education and gender studies? I agree that your college major probably isn't a huge factor in the success of your marriage. Things like how supportive you are, conflict resolution skills, disposition, overall compatibility are. Hell, we argue all the time here about whether sluts, single mothers and rape victims make good wives. Obviously TRP believes that other factors besides a woman's looks should be considered before marrying her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:26 PM
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I've literally never seen anyone on PPD say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:17 PM
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Yeah it got the rare literal LOL from me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:16 PM
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Yeah this literally reads to be as "Chad is a guy a woman is attracted to." Which, ok, no shit those exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:11 PM
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This is the funniest thing I've ever read on PPD. I'm dying
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:54 AM
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I never said ugly women have it better than hot women (although I think the case could be made that they do in some respects, and I say that as a fairly unattractive woman.) What I'm saying is that you need to be a whole lot more than pretty to get a man to commit and be loyal to you. Anyway, you said that hot women get EVERYTHING they want handed to them, but then you turn around and say they do get P&D'd sometimes. Guess what, if what she wanted was commitment and she got dumped then she didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:43 AM
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No shit. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:17 AM
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Sure. To me having problems, acknowledging that and working on it is having your shit together. Nobody's perfect and without their baggage, that's not what I'm saying. But if a person is making THEIR emotional issues YOUR problem by being jealous, possessive and not respecting your boundaries, they're not worth it in my opinion and they need to get their issues under control before involving another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:17 AM
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I agree, men should dump shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:32 PM
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Or women would be incentivized to keep that behavior in check. Believe me, when my boyfriend threatened to leave because I was being too clingy and smothering him, I stopped that shit right quick because I didn't want to lose him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:56 PM
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I didn't say men exhibit these traits more often, I'm saying it's more of a problem when they do. Men are more willing to put up with it in a woman than vice versa. Not saying that's a good thing, it's just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:54 PM
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Pretty women don't get pumped and dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:53 PM
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Yep, same for me. Glad you're in a better place now!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:07 PM
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How many insecure men have you been in relationships with?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:05 PM
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This is how we are too. I found myself watching the Dallas Cowboys game last weekend when he wasn't even home, because he's a Cowboys fan and I like to keep up with how they're doing. Meanwhile I've come home from work before to find him rocking out to one of my Taylor Swift records. It's fun to experience new things through your partner, even silly, unimportant things. You get into the things they like because it helps you know them better. I think anyone who's concerned about whether they're "…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:18 PM
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" Sweetheart, I love spending time with you. I would really like to do ____ hobby to relax and unwind a bit. How about you go play a video game/watch a movie/whatever for a bit. When I'm done let's get some food and after, fuck each other senseless." Yeah, I tried this. For two years. And every time it was "WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO BE AROUND ME???? If you loved me you wouldn't care if I hung out with you while you read your book!!!" If you like that in a relationship, fine. I value my space.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 08:06 PM
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Yep. My SO damn near broke up with me toward the beginning of our relationship because I was being too needy and insecure. I had to get my shit together to keep him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:50 PM
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Trust me, it's not a positive when your boyfriend sees you texting your FEMALE friend and freaks out because he thinks you're cheating on him. It's not a positive when you can't get any time alone to focus on your hobbies because he wants to be around you 24/7. It's not a positive to have to walk on eggshells every day of your life because he might take the slightest thing as an insult and have his self esteem come crashing down, leaving you to pick up the pieces. I would (and have) advise my ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:47 PM
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In what way? An insecure man is going to be jealous, needy, clingy and whiny. Those things are poison to a relationship, especially when it's the man exhibiting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:35 PM
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You're spot on, as usual. TRP has this weird version of the halo effect going on where they think that a beautiful woman inspires loyalty, devotion, protection and good will from every man she meets. If she just devotes all her effort to looking pretty a good man will just fall in her lap and do right by her for the rest of her days. Personally my friends who have had the most trouble with pump and dumps and heartbreak are the exceptionally pretty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:34 PM
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I think people confuse the first criteria with the most important. Yes, physical attraction is the FIRST thing people look for, and you're not going to get anywhere without it. But I think it's arguable whether that makes it the "most important." Analogy: I ran a lot of errands this morning. I went to the bank, the dentist, the grocery store and the mall to get a Christmas gift for my dad. All very important things. But before I could do any of that, I had to put clothes on. If I hadn't, they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:22 PM
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Yep. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:13 PM
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Where do you live where the girls are all fat and the men look like Zac Efron?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:56 PM
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💯💯 You're spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:54 PM
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It depends on what her goals are. I think saying looks are of the utmost importance is male solipsism because it assumes that a woman's primary goal is to find a man who really wants to fuck her. The thinking seems to be that if she finds that, everything else will fall into place. The thing is, as TRP is quick to remind us, most women are not hurting for men who want to fuck them. If she's reasonably attractive, she has that in spades. Finding a man who's sexually attracted to her isn't a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:16 PM
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If a girl dates a guy she doesn't really like it's either going to end with them breaking up and him feeling like he was led on and wasted his time, or them sticking together for the long haul but her feeling lukewarm about it, most likely leading to a dead bedroom or at best an underwhelming sex life. Neither seem like a great outcome for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:02 PM
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You've never seen or heard of a woman cooking dinner for her boyfriend??? I find that hard to believe. The vacations and such I agree, I don't see that either but then again I don't see men doing it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:49 PM
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According of several of my guy friends, fat girls are more down for anal and general kinkiness too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:48 PM
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And considering most women's goal is marriage with a good man, it would behoove her to be well-rounded instead of solely focusing on maximizing her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:36 PM
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I know a few who have tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:24 PM
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Meh. I'm not inclined to use illegal drugs, for a variety of reasons (have no problems with it morally; if other people want to do it, go nuts, just not my thing) and I'm dubious that anything can "completely cure depression." Anyway, I've had it under control for a couple of years now after struggling for over half my life. I was medicated for a while (and wouldn't hesitate to be again if I needed to) and now manage it with MBCT, exercise and spending a lot of time outside (seriously, it's craz…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:07 PM
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Are we talking physical or personality? Physically no, I have a very feminine build and face. Personality, eh. If you buy into MBTI, I'm an ISFJ which is one of the most feminine types. That said, I've never been a "girly girl" and I've been told I have a masculine presence. So I'm a bit of a mixed bag I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:59 PM
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The sexiest man/woman alive thing is a promotional tool, period. It's not voted on by readers. It's no coincidence that the person who wins every year always has a new album or movie coming out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 06:20 AM
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My mom's beautiful even in her fifties and my parents' marriage has by and large been miserable (for reasons that are both their faults.) It takes a special kind of ignorance and shortsightedness to think that your spouse being nice to look at is all it takes to keep a marriage together over decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:29 AM
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My fingers are the exact same length and I'm depressed and anxious AF
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:58 AM
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The first couple is less likely to divorce to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:28 AM
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Things like political beliefs and philosophies can (but aren't always) dealbreakers in relationships because I'm trying to build a life with that person. Their beliefs on certain topics can give insight into how they'll handle situations like handling finances and raising kids, for example. These things are important in a marriage (which is my ultimate goal in relationships.) They don't matter in a friendship so who cares? I have friends with all sorts of political and religious beliefs. I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:00 PM
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You were actually one of the first users (along with Atlas) who came to mind when I thought of antifem posters who "get it." This is a good summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 08:45 PM
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Reading has also been linked to lower chances of developing Alzheimer's and dementia. Learning a foreign language, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:30 PM
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Twilight and 50SOG were both published under female names after all. The 50SOG writer uses initials just like JK Rowling. Though I doubt anyone ever questioned that it was written by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:27 PM
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This seems accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 07:22 PM
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Great comment. Did you hear about the fundraiser some Democrats had for the North Carolina GOP after their headquarters was attacked by some arsonists during election season? They were trying to show how liberals are more compassionate and take the "high road" and "play fair." And what is the North Carolina GOP doing now? Gutting the officer of governor and trying to strip it of its power before the newly-elected Democrat governor takes office. I think it's a pretty hilarious allegory for the tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:50 PM
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That's really cool and admirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:45 PM
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Yeah, funny how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:44 PM
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in general it doesn't seem like the left is picking its battles very well lately That's an understatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:40 PM
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Every girl who owns a laptop is an ugly slob. Fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:29 PM
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or he just lowers his standards to a trigglypuff level Well if he's fat, bald, middle-aged and unattractive I'd say this is a pretty fair match.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 06:28 PM
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Ha I'm the exact same. In my family, Christmas is a "kids holiday" so you don't really get gifts after you're 14 or so, and if we celebrated a birthday it'd just be taking the person out to dinner or something, no presents. So I suuuuuuck at buying presents for adults. Usually what I do is bake a bunch of cookies and fudge and make little gift baskets for all my friends. Goes over pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:23 PM
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I agree with you. The guys I've dated have generally been pretty thoughtful and picked up on when I wanted something that I wasn't going to buy myself. Even my shithead ex was a good gift-giver.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:18 PM
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I've been with my bf four years and I couldn't begin to guess his shoe size. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:16 PM
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We're the same. Instead of gifts we have a fund we put money in on Christmas and birthdays that we use for vacations or big, fun purchases for both of us. Most recently we bought kayaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:11 PM
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That's true. I didn't date in high school and tended to be ignorant of the whole scene so I kind of forget high school relationships are a thing, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 09:08 AM
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Yeah, body type is such a huge factor. My mom and I are about the same height and she weighs less than me, but she actually looks a little chubbier and wears a bigger dress size because she has broad shoulders and carries all her weight in her torso. I'm a pretty extreme pear shape - narrow shoulders, thin torso, wide hips and thick thighs. When I gain weight it's usually in my boobs and hips, I'm lucky in that regard. I don't think most guys prefer the stick thin model look (though there are ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:55 AM
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Ha, yeah, I've actually heard that. I've not yet reached that stage of life, and my SO and I are fairly evenly matched right now so I guess we'll see how that plays out in 10 years. That is interesting from a biology/evolution standpoint though. Maybe it's like the female body's last-ditch effort to get pregnant before her fertility window closes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 04:39 AM
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I was thinking the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:39 AM
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I only identify as feminist on this sub. It doesn't come up in my life much at all. Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:34 AM
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I'm 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:32 AM
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Ah. Yeah, despite my flair and my Texan-ness I have no experience with horses, lol. (I'm not sure why your other comment got removed? fwiw I didn't report it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:09 AM
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I'm sure libido changes as we age (in fact, from experience, I know it does) and there might be an age at which the average man and woman's libido reach an equilibrium. I've admittedly not done a lot of research on the topic. But just from my conversations here, conversations with men and women IRL and observing their behavior, and just what I know about myself and the men I've had relationships with, a woman's sex drive seems to ebb and flow while a man's is more constant (I've heard many men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 02:06 AM
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Yeah, I'm becoming more and more accepting the existence of biologically determined behavioral sex differences -- just as long as we're talking in aggregates (plenty of outliers, etc., etc.) For sure. And I don't think these general trends should dictate how people should act and behave toward one another; that's where I start having a problem with RP. In other words, the fact that most women are nurturing and want kids for example doesn't mean that women who don't fit that description are lying…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:59 AM
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So, to recap: gun ownership, yes, but research into gun violence prevention, also yes. I can get on board with this. And yes, fuck deer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 01:27 AM
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I feel like feminism kind of sold out to capitalism and to the upper middle classes promoting a lot of "you can have it all bullshit" that ended up alienting women and men. Spot on. I was actually just listening to a podcast that discussed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:59 AM
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I am, and I think so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 12:46 AM
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We seem to be on the same page politically. I described myself as liberal in my comment for simplicity's sake (as I've gone down the rabbit hole before of trying to explain the difference in liberalism and radicalism to redditors and found it to be a lost cause), but I align with radical leftism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:34 PM
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1000000% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:30 PM
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Flair color: I think we had a thread asking this recently, but a few topics where I tend to disagree with most Blues are that I think claiming that women in general have as high a sex drive as men is ridiculous, I think men are held to stricter and more damaging gender roles than women in the modern world, and I do think certain preferences and behaviors are biologically ingrained and can't just be chalked up to socialization. Oh and I hate the idea that a wife doesn't "owe" her husband sex. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:44 PM
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👏👏 Totally agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:36 PM
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I don't understand what this means. Is it a euphemism I'm not aware of?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:41 PM
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Yeah. I think a lot of guys just don't realize that. They think "120, that's a pretty big number, if she weighs more than that she's probably fat." I had a guy on here tell me once he's never dated a woman who weighed over 100lbs. Lol, sure buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:33 PM
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How do you know what the upbringing of every woman you've ever met was like? Your insight into the lives and backstories of your acquaintances never ceases to amaze me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:23 PM
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I'd say that the fact that the Feminist sub banned you proves quite a lot about what people think is wrong with feminism. Normally I'd agree with you, but the Feminism sub is literally run by one guy with a chip on his shoulder and an itchy ban finger. I know tons of people, myself included, who have been banned for seemingly no reason at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:20 PM
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This is true, girls are shit at judging a guy's height. I thought my bf was at least 6'0 until I started arguing about it one day and he made me measure him to prove he's not. Hell, my own brother is an inch shorter than me and I didn't even notice till I saw a pic of us side by side.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:43 PM
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Weight. I'm on the tall side for a girl (5'7, so not a giant but taller than average) and I weigh 135. Guys will argue with me about my weight because my height and the way my weight is distributed makes me seem thinner than I am (I have really long, lanky arms and legs; my weight is mostly carried in my hips and thighs.) My old roommate once found a pair of my jeans in the dryer and was like "I guess these are [other roommate's girlfriend]'s, no way a size 8 fits you." Hmmmm nope, they're mine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:34 PM
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Makes sense, I could see that being appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 07:43 PM
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I'm not familiar with OITNB but your grandma description made me LOL because it sounds like my granny. Come to think of it I guess I know a lot of redneck "trailer trash" type women who could fit those descriptors. Like a woman who's kind of rugged and smokes cigarettes and cusses but still calls you "honey" and wants to make sure you're well-fed. Not sure if that's what windowpane had in mind, but now that I think about it those traits aren't as contradictory as they initially seemed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 06:10 PM
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I'm having trouble imagining a person who's both harsh and abrasive and kind and nurturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:41 PM
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Meh I'm not a fan. If not clean-shaven I prefer a full beard to stubble. It's too scratchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:16 PM
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It genuinely makes your comments hard to read because it's hard to tell where one thought ends and another begins. Just FYI. Do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:00 PM
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I'm 5'7 and I prefer the guy to be a few inches taller than me. My boyfriend is 5'10 and that's perfect. I've never dated or slept with anyone over 6'. I rarely wear heels, and if I do it's not a problem for me if I'm a little taller than the guy in them, so that isn't really a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:50 PM
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It really shouldn't be surprising that straight women like men who look like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:35 AM
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Why do you end every sentence/clause with two periods? It's supremely annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:17 AM
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Haha. I saw a screenshot on Twitter a couple days ago (not sure what the original source was, some magazine I think) of guys describing what they imagine a female orgasm is like. They were saying things like, "She feels like she traveled to another dimension," "She sees new colors," "She can't stop thinking about it for days," "She tells all her friends about it." Like...Orgasms are good, and occasionally are so good I feel kinda goofy for two or three minutes afterward. But they're not that goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:13 AM
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My younger cousin just flew from Texas to Pennsylvania to meet a guy she met on Reddit. Her parents are piiiiiissed. I can't imagine how mad they'd be if she went to a whole other country, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:04 AM
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I agree! Glad I'm not alone. The main thing for me is that I'm really attracted to lines on a man's face. Laugh lines, dimples etc. A beard covers up all that cuteness! Sadly my bf prefers having a beard so he only shaves every couple months, and I get super giddy every time he does. I'm okay with his beard and it is flattering on him, but I just love the way his face looks clean-shaven. Plus he has the loveliest, softest skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 03:01 AM
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I do too. Beards are a huge trend right now but I don't think preferring clean-shaven is as outlandish as the other things on his list. Edit: I realized that due to the phrasing of my comment your reply could be read two different ways. Do you mean you do prefer clean-shaven, or you do think it's rare for women to prefer it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:07 AM
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Skin without hair is bad ???? I'm so confused by this. When y'all say clean-shaven do you mean just the face or hairless all over? If the latter then yeah that's probably not most women's preference, but facial hair vs. no facial hair seems to be pretty evenly split among women IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:46 AM
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clean shaven You really don't think some women prefer clean-shaven over facial hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:44 AM
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Yeah, if anything it seems like that relationship has been a boon for Kanye's career more so than Kim's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:22 AM
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You think the Beatles didn't do drugs?????
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:21 AM
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Physical: Brown or olive skin (I have a preference for Hispanic or olive-skinned white guys; pale, pinkish skin is ick to me), brown hair and eyes, full lips, broad shoulders, a beefy build (not "ripped" or "cut," but strong), big hands, good fashion sense, glasses are a plus. Personality: Quick-witted, creative, hardworking, kind/generous (NOT supplicating, NOT a pushover), honest and straightforward, passionate about something, good with kids and animals, can do manly shit like fix cars and bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:08 AM
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You're not paying much attention, then. When I'm active on here I don't go a week without being told I'm not attracted to my boyfriend, I either have cheated or will cheat, I'm lying or in denial when I say I don't like big muscles, etc. Happens to every single woman here. I won't name names but I can think of two users in particular who would have been banned long ago if these sorts of arguments were against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 09:39 PM
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Exactly. OP has the cause and effect mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 08:22 PM
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If a dude mentioned getting me pregnant within the first few minutes of meeting him I think I would literally run away screaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 04:36 PM
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Yeah, if I'm having a problem that's unrelated to him then I definitely like when he does this. But if I'm mad at him about something, then this would just make me madder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 08:07 PM
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I'm always worried about the opposite. I love kids in general, but there are a few kids I've encountered in my life who I have a deep, seething hated for. My worry is: what if I have a kid who's just a real motherfucker and I can't stand them? It honestly terrifies me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:56 PM
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My plan growing up was to get my teaching degree, marry young, have several kids before 30 and live in the country. Then I started teaching and hated it, and neither of the relationships I had in my early twenties worked out, and I went through a mental health crisis that made me question whether I was fit to be a parent, and I moved to a city and realized I much preferred it to rural life. So, my life script had to be rewritten. My SO and I plan to get married by next summer (I'll be 29.) I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:52 PM
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I'm an ISFJ (though I'm borderline S/N) and this shit just pisses me off. If there's a problem, we either need to address and fix it, or if it's not that sort of problem, I just need to be left alone with my thoughts to work it out and get over it on my own. The "kiss the booboo and make it better" act doesn't work on me, it just makes me mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:01 PM
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My boyfriend has a thing for pixie cuts. The two girls he dated before me both had pixies. When he and I met I had long, thick hair. About two years into our relationship I was feeling impulsive and got it all chopped off one day while he was at work. He was sooo excited when he got home, lol. I'm growing it out now and he's a little sad about it, but I'll probably chop it off again someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:53 PM
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I have a really bad cowlick on the left side of my head so short hair was a PITA for me. I was constantly fighting to get it to lie down and part correctly. It was actually the main reason I decided to grow it out even though I loved my pixie cut. I do miss being able to blow dry it in five minutes though :(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:47 PM
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Me too, I hate it. There was a guy at my old job with a manbun who all the girls in the office thought was hot as shit. I just couldn't see what they were seeing. Then one day he walked in and he had cut his hair, and I was like "Damn, OK, I see what you mean now."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:43 PM
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Same for me. I have a small face, but it's very oval-shaped, so long hair just elongates my face and makes me look...idk, horsey? Short hair balances it out and brings attention to my better features (eyes, nose) and downplays my worse features (jaws, chin.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:40 PM
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Agreed. I hate these conversations. An ex of mine always wanted to talk about these crazy hypotheticals where he'd put his life on the line for me and our potential kids, how if it all went to hell he'd work his fingers to the bone and die for us if that's what it took, blah blah... meanwhile he couldn't hold a job, half the time I paid his rent and car payment (yes, HIS rent -- we didn't even live together) and generally took care of him...but when the going gets tough he's going to break his b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:15 PM
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This sub is the most convincing evidence I've seen for the existence of parallel universes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:59 PM
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If you've ever known someone who has had a lifechanging medical procedure or successfully treated a debilitating ailment, the language is very similar. "I got my life back," "Now I can do the things I want to do," "The disease isn't holding me back anymore" etc. I had an uncle who had a double lung transplant and all he talked about for months was how happy he was about it. Granted I wouldn't call that "bragging," but I wouldn't call what people do after abortion "bragging" either. To me it come…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:08 PM
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I'm confused. First he says men only do productive, interesting things as part of "nest-building" to attract women, but then at the end he says if men weren't worried about attracting women they'd be free to do productive, interesting things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:01 PM
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A person's actions are how other people experience that person. I will never understand how people think you can separate what a person does from who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 06:02 PM
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What is "her" if not her personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:52 PM
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Lol, yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:57 PM
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In the Netflix documentary Making a Murderer, the guy is falsely convicted of rape (the rape really did happen and the actual perpetrator was a very similar-looking man) and spent I think 20 years in prison before DNA evidence cleared him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:56 PM
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Dating and then breaking up with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:21 AM
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I don't know if it's because I'm a total child at heart, but I find CYE absolutely laugh out loud hilarious, whereas Seinfeld is more enjoyable in a high brow way. Yeah, I'd agree with that. CYE has me rolling sometimes. To me it successfully does something the American version of The Office (a show I hate) tries so hard and fails to do, which is that cringey humor where you just want to die of embarrassment for the characters. Like, with The Office the characters are just annoying and I don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:59 PM
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Nice. I'm a huuuuuge Seinfeld fan/nerd but for whatever reason never got into Curb until recently. I've been binging it the last few weeks and that shit is hilarious. Maybe even funnier than Seinfeld. If you haven't watched Arrested Development, I highly recommend. If you like Seinfeld and CYE you'll almost certainly like AD. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia also.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:40 PM
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I always preferred You've Got Mail to Sleepless in Seattle. Probably a generational thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:34 PM
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On what planet is Fight Club a rom com???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:33 PM
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Oh sweet summer child. Just wait. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 08:32 PM
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Westworld fucking owns me. I'm about to re-watch the entire series.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 07:43 PM
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I like guys who are smart in ways that I'm not. My bf is really good at math and knowledgeable in history, and he can build computers and shit like that. I like hearing him talk about those subjects because I learn something new, and like you said, it elicits respect because he's better than me in this regard. My last boyfriend was also very intelligent, but his intelligence was similar to mine (more verbal/linguistic intelligence.) It didn't have the same effect, although I still admired him fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:49 PM
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What if you had triple anal? D:
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:44 PM
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This is the simplest, best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:40 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:39 PM
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Not to be special snowflakey, but I kind of am. I think it's because sex is one of the main ways I show affection. I'm not a verbally affectionate person or an overly touchy-feely-kissy person, so if I'm feeling affectionate toward my SO, it manifests sexually more often than not. So if he does something really sweet, I'm like "Aww, that was nice, I really love him" and the more I stew on those feelings the more I want to jump his bones. But other women's MMV. (Obligatory disclaimer that this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:37 PM
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Wow I never thought about it like that. It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:32 PM
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Haha that's what I was gonna say. The first time my bf and I went to a movie we saw whatever X-Men was in theaters at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:29 PM
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The stereotype that lesbians rent a uhaul as their second date is grounded in truth. Hahaha I've never heard this but shit, it's so true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:25 PM
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Yep. I've had men on this sub and IRL tell me as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:20 PM
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Yeah, girls take pictures from the top angle and guys take pictures from below. It's really weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 08:28 PM
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Oh yeah, definitely agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:48 PM
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I actually tend to like the candid/action pics the best because you get a sense of the guy's personality and hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:47 PM
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Also guys generally post really shitty pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:11 PM
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Haha! Who knows. I was raised in a super strict, conservative, religious environment, then left the church and got into a reeeeally unhealthy relationship (in no small part thanks to my fucked up religious upbringing), both of those things led me to a militant fuck-all-men WGTOW radfem phase that lasted a year or two, then I worked out some of my issues and gradually settled into (what I think is) a more balanced worldview and became the well-adjusted individual you see before you today 🙃 I'm ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:42 AM
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So in your opinion, under what circumstances could a relationship end that doesn't reflect badly on the woman? It sounds like a woman can't win in your book unless she married the first guy she dated and stays with him forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 10:44 PM
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I'm aware, but I tend not to hang out with those sorts of people. Besides, most of my friends don't have kids period, married or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 10:40 PM
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Thank you, I knew it couldn't just be me that was seeing this. It's soooo common. A long time ago someone on this sub (I think maybe Griddy?) said an older female relative once told them something like "If women waited until men were ready, humanity would have died out a long time ago."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 10:37 PM
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Holy throwback.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 07:32 PM
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Yeah you did, I wasn't talking about you specifically, just musing on something I've noticed both here and IRL. I have seen you and one or two others describe yourselves as average. So, my bad, shouldn't have said "never" but it is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:54 PM
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Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:51 PM
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True, they'd be having more kids than they are now most likely. But we're still talking about high FTO, risk-averse women, who are more likely to resist temptation or delay gratification. After all, back in the day before birth control there were still couples only having two or three kids. I can tell you right now, when I was in my early twenties if for some reason I woke up one morning and birth control and abortion were suddenly illegal, no dick would have been getting anywhere near my vagina…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:50 PM
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Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:34 PM
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Yeah I'm confused. I thought betas were the definition of daddy material. If anything it seems like an alpha would be less amenable to being "tied down" by having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:32 PM
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It's not that they're bailing. The guys do want kids someday, but they want to put it off. I'm not talking about guys straight-up pulling a bait and switch. As for how common it is, I know three women personally going through this right now and know of many more who have in the past. I think it's vanishingly rare that men say they want kids then get married and say "Whoops, just kidding!" But wanting to put it off is more common than y'all seem to think. Men in their twenties and early thirties …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:30 PM
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I also sincerely believe that TRPers and men more broadly overestimate their own attractiveness relative to women who'd be their 'looksmatch.' I've noticed men, at least on PPD, either severely over- or underestimate their attractiveness. You never see a guy here saying he's about average or rating himself a 5. It's either "I'm so profoundly hideous that women recoil in disgust at the mere sight of me" or "I'm well above average, and way more attractive than most women I see on a daily basis." A…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:04 PM
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If a couple had a kid, split up and share custody 50/50, they're both still single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:48 PM
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This sounds like a good way to sniff out a guy who will be a good father, not one who will necessarily want kids right away. I have no doubt my brother will be an amazing father, same with the two friends I described, and they fit your criteria. But they're still making their wives wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:41 PM
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And that's my point. If a guy puts off wanting to have children forever, you're better off looking for greener pastures. I'm talking about guys who do this after they're already married. In the dating stage it's "I'm ready for kids, I can't wait to start a family with you" and then after the wedding it's "What's the big rush? Let's enjoy being married for a few years first." Happens all the time. Should these women just get divorced and start over hoping the next guy will be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:40 PM
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Yes these poor men getting married to women they asked to marry them then being forced to have kids they said they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 07:54 AM
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How? What are the tells?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 07:47 AM
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I really only know one who's obnoxious about it and talks about it all the time. To be fair she's a pretty obnoxious individual in general though. She's not a pink-haired, tattooed Tumblrite type feminist though. She's more the upper middle class cosmopolitan "proud slut" type of feminist. Think Amy Schumer but prettier (yes, she's actually pretty.) She does have one tattoo that I know of -- a small, dainty, Beyonce-inspired one behind her ear which is the most Basic White Girl thing I can imagi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:43 AM
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And some guys truly believe they'll be ready but when reality sets in they're not. There was an episode of Scrubs about this. Turk was super stoked to have a baby. But when they actually started trying he freaked out and started sneaking birth control pills into Carla's food.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:37 AM
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but tbh the "never ready" guys can be sniffed out How? If you date a guy for two or three years, plan a future with him, he's excited about having kids then you get married and he wants to put it off, at what point in that process should she have "sniffed him out"? I genuinely don't think these guys are lying or pulling a fast one on these women. And it's not like they're irresponsible bums - they're educated guys with good jobs. I think when faced with the reality of actually becoming a father,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:21 AM
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But if not for birth control those women would still be weeding themselves out via abstinence or natural family planning. They wouldn't just be popping out kids willy nilly. They'd be having fewer kids later, same as they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:14 AM
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dead cradle What a great turn of phrase. And it's so true. I have two girl friends right now, both have been married 3-5 years, who really want to have babies but their husbands "aren't ready." Guys like to go on and on about how women don't have much time for fertility but when the rubber meets the road they have no problem telling their 29-year-old wives "Just a couple more years..."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:06 AM
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Yeah same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 06:02 AM
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Might be shocking for a blue piller, but I would say in the majority of cases a single mom is in that situation due to one or more bad choices on her part. That choice could be forgoing birth control/condoms, not getting an abortion, having a baby because she thought it would "save" the relationship/marriage or make her partner "grow up," etc. I also think having kids without getting married first, even if they're planned, is a bad decision. HOWEVER, the father in question had a part in every si…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:57 AM
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Yeah, almost everyone I know who calls themselves a single mom (or single dad for that matter) was married with kids then divorced. Divorcee isn't a word you hear often, but even if it were, it doesn't indicate that the person is a parent. If you dated someone and they told you they were a "divorcee" you wouldn't assume they have kids just from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:45 AM
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Did you stop reading the comment after that phrase or what? She's saying grow a spine and don't pay for the date if you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 09:28 PM
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As to your hypothesis about lower value women, it's equally possible that they are marrying lower value men because they are lower value women. Ding ding ding. Female factory workers and waitresses and Walmart cashiers wouldn't be marrying "high value men" regardless of their n count. This idea that educated, attractive, responsible men with good career trajectories and their shit together would be marrying ordinary working class girls if only those girls weren't so dadgum slutty is the most rid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 05:02 PM
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I'm not pretty and I've never been asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 04:37 PM
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Apparently terps believe in love at first sight and if you have to spend time with a person to figure out if you like them you're a horrible failure. I've never seen a group of people so flabbergasted and offended by the concept of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 04:07 PM
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Blue woman. No. Not interested in being an accessory to someone else's infidelity, or in having sex with shitty people. Besides that, what if wifey finds out? I don't need that drama in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 04:02 PM
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Exactly. What good is it to find a woman who can bond with you if you're unable to bond to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 03:51 PM
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TRP readers aren't trying to sleep with men. No, but they are ostensibly concerned about the health and longevity of their LTR's and marriages. If promiscuous men also have trouble bonding, then it would behoove Red Pill men to avoid promiscuity if they're trying to mitigate the risk of a failed marriage down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 03:49 PM
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Thank you! Damn, you guys have some awesome vacation time (sounds like you earned it!) Good for you. Utah is my favorite place IN THE WORLD. I have family there so I've visited a lot. Do you know where you're going, or what season? I love visiting in the spring. Arches, Bryce Canyon and Canyonlands National Parka are all absolutely gorgeous. Arches is probably my favorite of the three. I've heard SLC is a cool place, I'd like to visit it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 08:16 PM
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The average guy in my social circle (mid twenties to early thirties): -Has some college but not a degree; maybe has a professional certification/license of some sort. -Works at a start-up as a developer or copywriter or in customer service/sales (I live in Austin, this is what everyone does lol) or has a decently paying nonprofessional job such as bartender, retail management, commission sales etc. A couple are teachers, one is a realtor, my bf is a welder. -Makes around 35-45K -Plays video game…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:57 PM
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My bf and I have been together four years and have yet to take a solo vacation together (we take a ski trip every year with friends, and we've done weekend camping trips, but never a full-on vacation.) Every time we try to plan one something gets in the way - finances, family emergencies etc. It makes me sad. Hopefully we'll get one this coming summer and have as much fun as you guys did :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:41 PM
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I don't put pics of myself on the internet but I'm curious whether people would think my bf and I are "looksmatched." Objectively I think we're pretty close. I rarely wear makeup and I don't do anything with my hair but blow-dry it. I'd rate myself a 5, maybe a 6 on a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:18 PM
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I actually agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:15 PM
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Or 20 minutes for a haircut.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:14 PM
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That's what all the cats are for!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:55 PM
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Many of them say that men who cheat are still loyal because they still love their wives and don't intend to leave them. They'd say the woman who divorces the cheater is the disloyal one. Which I guess fits a certain, strict definition of loyalty, but not one I'm interested in subscribing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 07:55 PM
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Yeah that's what my bf says when I'm like "You KNEW?! Why didn't you tell me?!" "Uhhh I didn't think it mattered?" Haha. That, or he doesn't feel it's his place to air other people's dirty laundry, which is actually admirable and I should probably take a leaf from his book in that regard. He has four sisters (probably why he's so good at tuning out female chatter, lol) and I'm pretty close to a couple of them so half the time he gets news about his own family from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 07:05 PM
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Man, I wish my SO was more gossipy. He's one of the few men I know who really doesn't do it much. I always update him on my family drama (of which there is plenty) and he's like, "Why are you telling me this?" Or I'll find out something juicy about someone in our group and tell him excitedly only to find out he's known for weeks. Ugh! My guy BFF who I've known my whole life will literally call me every couple weeks to ask if I've heard any new dirt on any of our high school classmates or mutual …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:49 AM
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Lesbians may hate other lesbians but they are FAR more accepted by general society than gay men. Lesbians are ignored and erased more than anything; they aren't outright derided, ridiculed and shamed the way gay men are. Since you're so fond of statistics, I'd suggest looking up the number of hate crimes against gay men and trans women (who are seen as effeminate males) vs. lesbians and trans men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:35 PM
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I'd be interested in people's socioeconomic class (what they were raised in and what they are now) and religious affiliation (again, past and present.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:18 PM
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Just be sure to have a "both" option for those of us who refuse to conform to the Cat Person/Dog Person dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:17 PM
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👏👏👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:58 PM
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Yeah my mom is a secretary at a police academy so she's the only woman in a building of like 20 male ex-cops. Some of the stories about the gossip and backstabbing that goes on in her workplace are insane. And she's always caught in the middle because the men shit talk about each other to her. Actually, it's occurring to me that maybe men think men don't gossip because they don't gossip to other men. They gossip to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:37 PM
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I love "genocide" and "threesomes" as emotions hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:28 PM
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Lol, reminds me of Arrested Development (as most things do.) Tobias: You know, Lindsay, as a therapist, I have advised a number of couples to explore an open relationship where the couple remains emotionally committed, but free to explore extra-marital encounters. Lindsay: Well, did it work for those people? Tobias: No, it never does. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might, but.... but it might work for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:23 PM
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This is a good point. It's not unreasonable to think/hope that casual sex might turn into something more when it often does work that way. Many, maybe even most, of the couples in my social circle started out as casual flings or FWBs. More often that not it isn't going to turn into anything, but like you said, not every "date" turns into something either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:53 PM
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No she's not, she's describing a guy continuing to text her because she hasn't set any boundaries and told him to stop. Even if she were, deleting him on social media and changing your number is just as effective (probably more so), and much less drastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:39 PM
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Jesus Christ, you think she should call the cops on her friend for texting her? I agree that she needs to cut him off and stop leading him on, but I find it alarming that anyone, much less a red piller, would want to get the police involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:32 PM
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I think this sub would be enough to break that poor bot, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:26 PM
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LOL. I saw a tweet the other day that was like "If she sends you snaps with the deer filter she a ho."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:19 PM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 05:12 PM
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That's not true. If you say someone is suffering the consequences of their actions, that doesn't imply they're absolved of responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:51 PM
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Thank you for saying this. A lot of people (not just here, but in general) seem to misunderstand the intro/extro dichotomy. Not all introverts are shrinking violet shut-ins, and not all extroverts are wild impulsive party animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:50 PM
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If she wants it, why hate it afterwards, though? I just explained it to you. I thought it would scratch my itch so I did it, then I realized it didn't entirely scratch my itch so I wasn't interested in doing it again. I think you're reading too much into the word "hate" (which is my fault, really, for using such a strong word in the first place.) It wasn't an experience that left me heartbroken or emotionally scarred. I was just like, "Eh" and went on with my life. Have you ever wanted something…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:39 PM
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Why? Why did you hate it? Why empty and pointless? I don't know. I guess I'm just a person who needs emotional connection to enjoy sex. I don't know how to make it any simpler than that. I can get those same physical sensations at home with my hands, so without the emotional component it didn't seem worth it. To me, I don't just like having sex, I like having a sex life. Which means when I'm not actually having sex with the person I'm still thinking about them, fantasizing about them, missing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 03:54 PM
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Yes, but not necessarily the way you'd think. There are plenty of closer to average women going this route, mostly because they don't get the attention the HB8-10's do, so they "sexualize" themselves to get more, which means more men notice them, which means more men find them "hot", which means more sex... Sure, I can see this happening. I guess when I say "hot girl" I don't necessarily mean objectively the best-looking girls, but the girls who are sexualized and have a certain magnetism that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 03:46 PM
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What an annoying bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:35 PM
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and very outgoing Yeah, this is probably the key to why I can't relate actually. I'm not outgoing and tend to shy away from attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:26 PM
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I guess I never got this type of attention so I don't know what I'm missing. My relationships with my male friends didn't change when I started dating my boyfriend. The guys who thought I was funny and liked hanging out with me before still think I'm funny and like hanging out with me. That said, I was never the "life of the party" or the girl every guy was in love with. I've never had guys buy me things or fall over themselves to do me favors. I think this is a hot girl problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:18 PM
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Yep, same. No moral judgments, just not my thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 04:03 AM
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This. I've had literally one ONS (I think -- does an ONS have to be a stranger? It was a one-time hook-up with a friend.) He was hot, the sex was good and I even came. And I hated it. Afterward it felt so empty and pointless. So I never did it again and all the other sex I've had has been in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 03:27 AM
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That's badass. I used to love watching The Deadliest Catch. Those guys don't fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 10:14 PM
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I have no idea. It's such a foreign environment to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 10:12 PM
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Yeah it is related to that kind of dancing! Pretty sure that's where it has its roots. Funny, it just occurred to me that two stepping isn't a thing people do everywhere and it's blowing my mind a little. I guess that's my Texan solipsism showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 10:11 PM
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Yeah this would be my answer. They have way too high expectations of what a relationship should be like and it makes them terrible partners (jealous, naggy etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 10:06 PM
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Yeah, I was a slim plain Jane with severe social anxiety and this is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 10:02 PM
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Nooooo not line dancing, that's corny. Two stepping is just one-on-one, with spins and twirls. Like this. It's fun and pretty simple once you get the basics down. But yeah... it's definitely not everyone's thing. Country music is pretty polarizing - people who hate it REEEEEEALLY hate it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:23 PM
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True, that's a good point. I guess I never really went to a bar with that intention either so I never really thought about it, but you're right, probably not the best environment to try and meet someone new; you go to those sorts of places to see people you already know (cue "Cheers" theme song...) The only other bars I ever frequented (in college, not so much these days) were country bars where people go to two-step. Those are actually great places to meet people and a little less debaucherous …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:53 PM
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Yeah that's the thing, the highest-paying jobs are the risky ones. If you want people to risk their lives every single day you'd damn well better pay them accordingly. My boyfriend has a degree in graphic design, worked in the tech sector for a couple years, hated it, got a welding license and has never been happier. He doesn't work in the super high-risk environments (his sisters and I wouldn't let him, lol) and he's a contractor, but he still makes good money and loves what he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:46 PM
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Oh for sure haha, I'm the same way. But some people here when bars come up immediately start with the "Why would I want to go to a place where it's LOUD and people are PUKING EVERYWHERE and girls are doing COCAINE off of CHAD'S COCK in the bathroom?!" It's kind of silly. My friends and I meet up every Tuesday at a bar down the street from my house and play board games. If you can play a fucking game of Risk at a bar, it's not exactly a wild party environment, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:28 PM
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Ha I just mentioned that in another comment. Those guys make insane amounts of money. My childhood best friend's dad was a welder on an offshore rig.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:18 PM
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Oil field jobs pay that easily with a few years of experience. Offshore drilling guys in particular make fucking bank. Most office drones aren't making over 80K either, though, so I'm not sure what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:12 PM
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The concept of a laid back dive bar where you can have a conversation is lost on so many people here. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:04 PM
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Try it. I fucking dare you. You wouldn't make it through a winter. Yeah, I have to laugh when Reddit nerds act like they're so oppressed because their white collar jobs are keeping them from fulfilling their manly potential. Go fucking do manual labor then. Go to work in the oil field or chopping down trees. Nobody's stopping you. Millions of men do it every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:45 PM
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You're right, my bad, that is what the OP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:50 PM
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Lol yeah, but hey waiting tables and working retail got me through college so I'm glad I developed those skills. Now I'm a shut-in with a desk job where I rarely have to talk to people so it all worked out :P My boyfriend has two nieces in Girl Scouts so we get the hook-up from them. I fucking love the shortbread ones. Nom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:01 AM
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Maybe she was genuinely interested and over the course of the date became uninterested. That's kind of the point of dates -- to decide whether or not you want to pursue a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:13 AM
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Yes! I was in Girl Scouts and so many girls would "sell cookies" by letting their parents take the order form to work and getting all their co-workers to buy boxes. My mom drove me around to different neighborhoods (we lived in the country and didn't have many neighbors in walking distance) and made me go door-to-door alone. I fucking hated Girl Scouts haha, but again if my mom hadn't made me be involved I probably wouldn't have had the skills necessary to work in customer service later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:28 AM
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Hahaha. Be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:07 AM
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I'm not denying that Chads are hanging out at bars and nightclubs, of course they are. I think we got our wires crossed somewhere so let's backtrack. Your original claim was that Chad's reputation precedes him and that the girls who sleep with him are aware of said reputation. When Atlas asked how anyone should be aware of his reputation you replied that Chad's hang out in bars and nightclubs. Are you saying that any girl who meets a guy in a bar or nightclub should just assume that he's not loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:23 AM
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...what? Who? I genuinely don't understand what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:57 AM
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I know literal drug dealers and escorts and they're much nicer people and more fun to spend time with than middle class snobs who think they're aristocrats because they drive Range Rovers and name their kids Quentin. LMAO. So true. Agree with your whole comment actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:51 AM
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And you know the reputation of every guy at the bar or nightclub?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:34 AM
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They're white knights for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:32 AM
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I wonder what the crime and sentencing statistics look like when you control for repeat offenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:18 AM
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Hmm, sounds like the Men Are Wonderful mindset to me. BOOM. I've been LOLing at how much this thread confirms what sublime was saying in her post earlier. Red Pillers actually believe men are up-front and honest with women they want to sleep with. Lololol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 01:14 AM
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In Texas it's necessary to at least learn conversational Spanish so you can order at the good restaurants :P
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:36 PM
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No hablo francés entonces tuve que confiar en Google Translate jajaja. Creo que estás pregutando si soy mexicana. Nó, pero mi novio y su familia son de la Valle del Rio Grande en el sur de Texas. Soy sólo una gringa viviendo entre los mexicanos jaja. ¿Es su esposa latina?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:40 PM
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Again, if a woman in a relationship allows herself to be drunk and alone with a strange man, she's either a naïve idiot or she's at least open to the idea of cheating. She might not have gone out that night with the express intention of cheating, but if she were truly adamant about NOT cheating she would not have made the many small decisions that led to it. If you're truly committed to your partner and remaining faithful to them, you won't allow yourself to get into these situations in the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:15 PM
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El español fué mi especialización secondario en universidad, pero en años recientes mi habilidades conversacionales han sufrido :/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:01 PM
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You're 100% right. A woman (or man) who has no intention to cheat and who isn't a complete naive idiot will recognize a risky situation long before it reaches the point of no return and remove themselves from said situation as quickly as possible. "One thing led to another" and "It just happened" are excuses; they know good and well they allowed themselves to be in a situation that allowed it to "just happen" and they didn't do anything to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 06:09 PM
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Lol that's probably a big part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:46 PM
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Word. My mom was the same way. I remember one incident in particular when I was about 8 years old. We were on vacation and there was this little shack that sold ice cream. I asked my mom if she would order me one (I was really, painfully shy and dealing with cashiers and customer service people gave me panic attacks.) My mom was like "WTF, no, you want ice cream you order it yourself." I cried and begged and threw a fit for about 10 minutes and then I dried my eyes and ordered my damn ice cream,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:21 PM
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. This is my experience growing up WC as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:14 PM
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I took US Government at a damn community college in Bumfuck Nowhere and even we learned this stuff. I worry about people on this sub sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 03:44 PM
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Aw, that's too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:05 AM
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I was raised fundamentalist Church of Christ and it's the same way. I didn't cut my hair until I left the church when I was 19. I was allowed to wear pants because my mom is a rebel; my dad, grandmother and other churchgoers weren't happy about it though. I couldn't wear makeup or pierce my ears either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:53 AM
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Yeah. The sprawl combined with shitty public transport makes driving a necessity, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 05:15 PM
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I think a lot of the problem too is the sprawl in American cities. Outside of NYC and one or two other dense metros, you're not going to do much walking in the US because everything is so spread out that you have to drive. My understanding is that cities in Europe are much more walkable/bikeable. That little bit of physical activity every day can really add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:32 PM
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The Starbucks kills me! I've had co-workers who would get drinks from Starbucks twice a day and of course they're not just drinking black coffee. A couple of those drinks could literally use up half your daily calories, if not more. And people wonder why they can't lose weight!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:28 PM
2

I worked at Applebee's in college so unfortunately I ate a LOT of their food. Luckily I was on my feet for about 12 hours every day (student teaching in the day and waiting tables at night) so I burned it all off. We had sheets in the kitchen listing the nutrition information for all our menu items and the caloric content of some of that stuff is just obscene. I shudder to think what I'd weigh now if I ate like I did in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:54 AM
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That guy is in pretty good shape though. He's carrying some extra pounds but he's got some nice definition in his arms and chest. (I'm partial to this body type myself so I think he's pretty hot, haha.) His stomach is the only thing that's really flabby. He's built exactly like the oil field guys in my hometown. Guys who do manual labor 10 hours a day. Your average fat guy with an office job won't look like that if he doesn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:40 AM
1

That's really interesting. And frightening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:36 AM
1

I live in Austin TX and it's a great city for this. We love to eat here, but it's also a very outdoorsy city so most people are in pretty good shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 06:34 AM
2

Exactly, well said. My mom recently told me she was concerned about me growing up because I didn't do any "normal" teenage stuff like sneaking out, drinking, smoking, running around with boys etc. And she thinks some of the mistakes I've made in adulthood are a result of my not getting into enough trouble and rebelling as a teenager. (Basically I tried to do the whole teenage rebellion thing at age 20, with disastrous consequences.) Kind of funny to hear your mom say she worried about you becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 02:11 AM
1

Lol yeah, me too. When I found out I texted her and said "I'm sorry to hear what happened, I'm here if you need me" and offered to let her come visit me if she wants to get out of town for a few days. I want to be supportive but I'm not going to jump on the dog-pile and badmouth her ex. I do think the way he chose to do it was shitty, and told her so, but I'm not going to pretend she's perfect and without blame. But yeah, you're probably right, I guess saying "You're just too strong for him!" is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:58 AM
1

Hey me too! Twinsies!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:50 AM
0

Yeah, this is true. But it's not even the inclination to defend someone you're close to or take their side that confuses me. I'm certainly guilty of doing that and I'm sure most people are. But why specifically tell them "He just couldn't handle how strong you are!" or "He's just intimidated by you!" Why is that the way so many people choose to comfort a woman going through a breakup? I dunno, I guess I have a low tolerance for bullshit. I'm not saying everyone should be piling on her and tellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:22 AM
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Yeah, I get that. There's no reason to rub salt in the wound and giving her "tough love" right now would ineffective (not to mention mean.) But why not just say something like, "I'm so sorry to hear that, call me if you need to talk"? Why do so many people feel the need to tell someone their relationship ended because of how strong they are? It's such a specific thing that comes up so often and I guess I just don't understand the motivation behind telling someone that. There are other nice/comfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:17 AM
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Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 11:09 PM
1

My cousin's fiancee bolted in the night last night while she was at work and sent her a breakup text this morning. Pretty fucked up and cowardly way to leave somebody you're engaged to, but honestly my cousin is a basketcase and I don't really blame the guy for leaving. I said to my brother when they first got engaged that they wouldn't make it to the wedding. Anyway, she posted a status about it on Facebook today and there are literally over 100 comments now from her friends and family, most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 10:23 PM
1

As if cheating doesn't bring about "suffering and misery" in families lol. This thread is unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:41 PM
2

No joke, getting a dog was the single best thing I ever did for my depression. It's hard to stay in bed all day hating yourself when you've got this furry creature who thinks you're the best thing in the world and needs to be taken outside several times a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:14 PM
3

Damn, I love antique shopping. Maybe I should get my guy a Viagra prescription.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 04:12 PM
2

Yeah that's true. IME guys who don't care about a little fur are more laid back in other ways, more able to go with the flow and have fun and even laugh in bed. Nothing worse than a guy who's easily grossed out by normal body stuff. Sex is sloppy and gross by nature, people should embrace the sloppy grossness and have fun. It's called "bumping uglies" for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:46 PM
1

He was a ridiculous human in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:41 PM
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She's sixteen. She shouldn't be (and most likely isn't) looking for a "quality long-term partner." And I'm not sure why you say her personality probably won't change. Again, she's 16. Most people change significantly between 16 and, say, 21. Hell, as a former teacher I can tell you kids are different people every year. A kid might be an unmotivated emo pothead as a sophomore and by senior year be a straight-laced prep applying to nursing school. (That's an actual example I observed, along with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:37 PM
5

I hate to break it to you, but it sounds like your 16-year-old sister is...a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:24 PM
4

What a complete non-answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:21 PM
1

This dude was, but he was controlling in a lot of ways. Every guy I've dated since has been really laid back about this stuff. I really do think the super picky guys are in the minority, but it sucks that hasn't been your experience :( The only time my current bf ever really comments on my grooming or clothes is when I put on heels for a night out, and it's just "You sure you wanna do that?" because he knows two hours in I'm going to be whining about how much they hurt. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:52 AM
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Lol no. He asked me to several times but I didn't do it, fuck that. He had a lot of aesthetic preferences that were weird, to put it mildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 12:48 AM
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My first boyfriend was adamant that I be shaved (he was disgusted by body hair in general... he even wanted me to shave my arms even though I have very little arm hair to begin with and it's blonde so it's barely visible.) Anyway, that kind of set the standard going forward and I just assumed it was a guy thing instead of just a him thing. I was pleasantly surprised in subsequent relationships to learn just how little the guys cared. These days I trim, mostly out of courtesy so he doesn't get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:37 PM
2

I like security, but I want it on my own terms. Relying on another person for my security and stability and being entirely at their mercy doesn't make me feel secure, it makes me nervous knowing that at any point they could leave or die and I would be left with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 06:36 PM
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This. Most people get married in their mid to late twenties, and the dating period before engagement is a lot longer these days than it was in previous generations. So it stands to reason most people start dating their eventual spouse in their early twenties. This is true for most of my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:33 AM
1

I call this "ugly-sexy" and it's very much a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:54 AM
1

I call this "ugly-sexy" and it's very much a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 07:54 AM
1

What if I have a TV show on while I'm doing needlework?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:12 PM
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I would respect his commitment to his values and think highly of him for that reason. But I wouldn't date him. Marriage is a huge, huge commitment and sex is a huge, huge part of marriage. I wouldn't enter into a marriage with someone I wasn't 100% sure I was compatible with sexually. His being attractive wouldn't change my feelings about this. Plus, chances are he's very religious, and I wouldn't marry a very religious person either. So, he has my respect and well wishes, but we wouldn't work o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 07:04 AM
1

Male children... have nothing to do with the propagation of our species. They absolutely do. A child who doesn't reach adulthood is an evolutionary dead end. It's in the species' best interest to ensure that children are protected and able to reach reproductive age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 06:45 AM
2

West Texas and eastern New Mexico.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 04:05 AM
3

Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:41 AM
1

The health benefits are a good point. I have eczema and psoriasis and sunlight is the only thing that helps. Great for your mental health too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:54 AM
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Basically this. I don't go out of my way to tan, but I like being outside and if it's nice and warm I'm probably doing something outdoorsy and a tan is a byproduct of that. I'd rather have fun and end up wrinkly than stay inside worrying about preserving my youth that's going to fade anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:52 AM
1

Wow this is the absolute opposite of me. My mood goes up 1000% when it's sunny/warm outside. At the first sign of a chill in the air I want to murder everything. Wearing layers and boots is torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:48 AM
1

I'd say I have about 15 people I would call friends. There are other people I hang out with from time to time in a group setting, but they're more friends of friends and I wouldn't count them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:28 AM
2

Hahaha, right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 09:37 PM
2

I was just using the pill as an example. It's one of many things that can cause a low libido. I'm just saying, it's clear you've never experienced a low libido. That's great, I hope you never have to. But that doesn't mean it's an excuse or doesn't exist. You sound very ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:51 PM
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Haha yeah, that's a good way to put it. Although more men use it than you might expect. I used to work for a marketing company who ran an outdoor/survival site targeted at men, and an alarming amount of our traffic came from Pinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:48 PM
3

Spoken like a man who's never been on birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 06:46 PM
1

Man idk. The bread I make has flour, butter, milk, an egg, sugar, salt and yeast. It makes little puffy dinner rolls. I've been making it my whole life because it's the recipe my grandma uses. You're the second person to say this is weird though so now I'm genuinely wondering what other bread recipes are like. What ingredients would you use? Maybe rolls like the ones I make are a southern thing or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:15 PM
1

Huh, interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 05:11 PM
1

Yeah, that's totally fair and I absolutely see why you would opt out of a life like that. It's not for everybody and you should see eye-to-eye on something like that going in. It works for us, largely because we make up for it during his time off. He's a welder and works on a contract basis, so he takes jobs all over the state (and occasionally out of state) which means while he sometimes travels for weeks at a time, he can be home for weeks at a time too between jobs. That's when we make up for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:59 PM
2

Pinterest is basically an image-based bookmarking system that lets you sort your bookmarks into categories (boards) and then other people can re-pin the things you've bookmarked onto their own boards. It's usually used for things like crafts, recipes or fashion/makeup tips. When I was in grad school I found it useful for organizing my research and interesting articles related to my field, but that's not what most use it for lol. (Admittedly I also use it to save recipes and interior design ideas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:42 PM
4

Not all couples are sleeping in the same bed all the time, or going to bed at the same time. My boyfriend travels for work; if he's gone for two weeks, guess what, that's two weeks without sex (well, I hope, lol.) We do it as often as we're able, and sometimes that's once a week or even less. That's the reality for a lot of couples with disparate schedules, where one of them travels a lot or works nights. It isn't ideal, and if a couple is going to bed together every night then yeah once a week …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:50 PM
3

Totally agree. A guy's voice and the way he carries himself make him sexy to me more so than his face and body in and of themselves do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:13 PM
2

Yes, correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:10 PM
2

? I baked bread yesterday and it def had an egg in it. Does most bread not? I always use the same recipe so I don't know if that's unusual or not haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:09 PM
1

Ha yeah, whenever I typed that I thought "Well, you can make bread without yeast, but yaknow..."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 03:08 PM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:58 AM
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Yes, this is 100% correct. Looks are necessary for attraction but that doesn't mean they're all that's necessary. A woman can find a man perfectly good-looking and still not desire him sexually. Think of it like one ingredient in a recipe. You're not going to make good bread without yeast, but you still need flour, milk and eggs too. The yeast is integral, but it's not the whole picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:56 PM
2

Yeah it took me a minute to figure out which song it was, I just knew I recognized it. That scene was soooo good and that song was perfect for it. If they don't use "Paranoid Android" at some point that will be such a missed opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 06:51 PM
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Yeah, there's lots of Easter eggs in the music. So far "No Surprises" and another Radiohead song (I forget which one...maybe "Creep"?) have been playing on the player piano in the saloon in various episodes, along with "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden in episode 1 and "Back to Black" by Amy Winehouse in last night's episode. There was also an orchestral version of "Fake Plastic Trees" playing during a particularly poignant montage. Idk if you've watched the whole season so far so I won't say more…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 06:26 PM
4

Do you watch Westworld? If not you should, but also get on Spotify or YouTube and check out the instrumental Radiohead covers from the soundtrack, they're amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:16 PM
1

I was more or less treated as a god by some people Freudian slip? OP is secretly CWM! #confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:18 AM
5

Of course the wife is (was) a bitch, I'm not defending her, I'm just saying you can't divorce a dead person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 06:13 AM
4

The wife is dead...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:46 AM
2

The facts themselves aren't racist/sexist, however they can be used to justify racist/sexist behavior. For example, men having higher IQ on average than women is a neutral fact, but an individual man treating an individual woman like she's stupid based on that fact is sexist, especially if their individual IQ's aren't known and hers could very well be higher than his.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:37 AM
1

This is how it happened in all my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 02:02 AM
1

Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 10:02 PM
3

These people are cray.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 05:31 PM
1

That's true, I could see it being a geographical/culture thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 03:52 PM
2

Thank you, I'm honestly shocked so few people are bringing this up. IME this is how people in my generation date. When you ask someone out you invite them to go hiking, check out a festival, come to a tailgate etc. Date 2 might be something more intimate like cooking a meal together. Who are these people going out to nice restaurants on a first date??? Hell, my parents married in the 70s and even they didn't go on real "dates." My mom said the first time they did dinner and a movie together was …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 05:16 AM
1

I'm a Rubio gal myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:51 AM
1

My laptop died a very sad death so I've been on mobile which is a PITA
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 01:38 AM
1

Lol yeah. It's not like every gross, dirty-looking criminal's mugshot is going viral. His went viral for a reason, and the reason is that he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:31 PM
2

Exactly. People are assuming this has to do with trust and insecurity but that's not it at all. I've never once worried that my boyfriend is cheating, it never even crosses my mind. If he doesn't come home at his usual time and I don't hear from him I start to worry he was in an accident or something bad happened. I would feel the same (and have) of it were a family member or a roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:57 PM
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Not if it's by the same person. Child rape in particular can happen many times over the course of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:00 AM
2

I listened to a piece about this on NPR the other day. The presentation is a little woo and new-agey for my tastes, but it sounds like something I can get into as I'm into really intimate sex with a slow burn. I definitely see how this could be a good thing for women (or men) who have trouble orgasming or whose sexual inhibitions keep them from getting lost in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:00 AM
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The sex is a means to an end. She doesn't desire it in and of itself. It's sort of like: I don't like to work out, but I want a healthy, toned body so I have to work out to achieve that. That doesn't mean I actively desire the workout, I'm just willing to endure it to get the outcome I want. If there were a way to be fit and toned without working out I'd definitely prefer that, but there isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:49 AM
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I think I could go without sex and be reasonably happy, but the lack of nonsexual touching and affection would drive me insane. I can give myself an orgasm, but I can't give myself a backrub or kiss myself goodnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:44 AM
1

porn is now routinely portraying women as sexually aggressive spontaneously horny creatures to the detriment of male/female relations That's the fuckin truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:41 AM
1

Fair enough, I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:38 AM
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We are talking about going off when you don't have a bunch of responsibilities or shit you planned with your SO. The thing is, when you live with an SO, your lives and routines become meshed and you sort of have "plans" by default. Not big, important plans, but generally you settle into a routine -- we eat dinner at this time, watch this show on this night, etc. And it's OK to break those plans, but letting the other person know is courteous because they have probably planned their evening assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:15 AM
1

I'm a pretty extreme introvert and I don't find it invasive in the least when my boyfriend asks where I'm going. It would be invasive if he demanded to go with me or bombarded me with calls/texts while I'm out, but just wanting to know where I am and when he can expect me back? Nah. And also, "I'm just tired of being cooped up, I want to get out of the house for a bit" is a perfectly acceptable answer that doesn't require a detailed itinerary or specific plans. It allows you the freedom to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:06 AM
3

Exactly. Either tell the truth from the beginning or commit to the lie. Changing lanes is not going to lead to a good outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:57 AM
1

But still, you said you'd give a boyfriend the half-truth but you'd tell your husband the real number. Unless you're going into an arranged marriage or something, your husband is going to start out as a boyfriend, right? How do you expect your husband to react when he finds out you gave him a "half-truth" before?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:56 AM
9

Is it rape week again already?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:49 AM
2

This is true. If someone occasionally forgets to tell you they're going to be late or misses a couple calls/texts you should give them the benefit of the doubt and not immediately jump down their throat about it. People get sidetracked and forget to call/text; it's not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:26 AM
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OK, so I've been in a relationship with a controlling, obsessive person who texted me constantly when we weren't together and flipped shit if I took longer than ten minutes to answer. It was extremely smothering and hard to deal with. So there's definitely a point where checking in on your SO can be taken too far. That said, it is completely normal and often necessary if you live together to let the other person know if there's a change in the routine. One, because of logistical reasons, and two…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:49 AM
2

But but but men and women are different!!! 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 02:26 AM
2

Well, your husband is going to start out as a boyfriend, right? So are you going to lie to him initially and then come clean with the real number once you're married? I don't see that going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 01:06 AM
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Yeah. The way it's talked about here makes me think of crime shows on TV. Like the woman is in one of those questioning rooms and the guy is pacing around, like, "Six, you say? Does that include blow jobs? ANSWER ME DAMMIT!" Personally my boyfriend has never outright asked my n but he knows about every guy I've slept with because I've mentioned all of them at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:44 AM
1

I've never been asked except by my first boyfriend, and my number was 0 at the time. If someone were to ask me now I wouldn't lie though. I have no reason to as my number is low even by prudish TRPer standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:41 AM
1

Here's a news story about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:22 AM
1

Apparently his family was in bad financial trouble so he was trying to get them life insurance money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:18 AM
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If she is able to discern that that is actually happening, then she would find out about the child if she investigates thoroughly where the money is going. What? I didn't mean to imply that the hypothetical woman doesn't know about the kid. I assume she probably would know; it would be pretty hard for a husband to hide child support payments from his wife for 18 years. I don't see how that makes a difference. What's worse? Losing money or wrongly thinking your child is yours when they aren't? I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:28 AM
3

Not quite the same, but a few months ago in my city there was a cop who committed suicide but tried to make it look like a homicide be shooting himself in the hand first (to make it look like he was covering his face with his hand when he was shot.) Weird shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:19 AM
2

She would by proxy, because some of her family's resources would be redirected to a child who isn't hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:08 AM
5

This. A lot of people don't seem to understand that it's not the sex in and of itself that makes cheating bad, it's the fact that you're breaking a promise that's fundamental to your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 09:56 PM
1

Hey, I'm sorry to hear this. I was in the same place a few years ago (still am to some degree, but a lot better comparatively.) I wish I had some advice but seeing as I'm still trying to claw my way out of that hole I don't feel I have much to give (and it looks like Groovy's got that covered anyway), but I just wanted to say you're not alone and I hope you find a treatment that works for you soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:28 PM
3

Hey me too! Small victories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:31 PM
0

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 09:44 PM
2

No one is "scandalized" by people going to bars -- red pillers are just (rightly) incredulous when tons of women pop up telling them they go to bars just to dance and have fun. Right, because they can't fathom the idea of a bar being a place for friends to hang out and have innocuous fun, they just know these wanton whores are going to the bar to snort blow off Chad's cock before going home with him. Like I said, this is what the Christian weirdos I grew up with thought bars were like too. It do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 07:32 PM
3

It continually amazes me how so many TRPers are indistinguishable from the teetotaling Christian dweebs I grew up with. I thought I was a square, but even I'm not so uptight as to be scandalized by the idea of college students going to bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 06:34 PM
3

You've never been to a dive bar? Where people just wear jeans and t-shirts?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 06:26 PM
2

What kind of bars do you go to? At the bars I frequented in college you got made fun of if you showed up in a short, tight dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 06:03 PM
4

What sort of social life did you guys have at ages 18-25? This is what I want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:48 PM
5

This. I went to a bar or house party 2-3 times a week in college (never really went "clubbing"; I went to dive bars with bands.) Never had an ONS, rarely even made out or danced with somebody, just drank and socialized and had fun with my friends. People here act like every party is some coke-fueled orgy, it's really weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:37 PM
7

The OP literally asked about women we know. That kind of question necessitates answering with anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 05:32 PM
5

I like Michael Moore's take on it (well, one of his takes) - that those activists who burned for Obama at best grudgingly voted for Hillary, but lacked the passion to convince others to do the same. Yeah, I agree with this (and it's basically the point I was trying to make too.) Let's not forget more people actually voted for Clinton; Trump won in a technicality, just like Bush in 2000. Sigh... I guess leftists won't ever let this go, but I'll tell you the same thing I told wuboo: You don't know…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 08:39 AM
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I agree that it's extremely rare for a guy to go from unattractive to attractive. But, I think it's a little more complicated than that. I don't think female attraction is as binary as male attraction is. A man sees a woman and can instantly put her in a "would bang/would not bang" box. For women, initially, it's more like "would not bang/would be open to banging, contingent on other factors." A guy in that second box can move into the "would bang" box after the woman gets to know him and other …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:28 AM
4

So, the popular vote is just the plain raw numbers. More people in the US voted for Clinton, so she won the popular vote. However, the US isn't a direct democracy so we don't go strictly by the popular vote. Instead, each state has a certain amount of electoral votes based on how many congressional districts the state has (which is determined by population.) A populous state like California has a lot of electoral votes (55), while a less populous state like Wyoming has fewer (3.) There are 538 e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 04:55 AM
7

I'm a lefty too and I agree with you 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 03:02 AM
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I think you're right about this. The left has completely lost touch with the average voter in favor of focusing on pet social issues and celebrity/entertainment culture. It's embarrassing, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 02:36 AM
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Ha yeah, agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:38 AM
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Sorry, poor phrasing on my part I guess but I assumed people would understand what I meant by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:25 AM
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By "on a technicality" I meant he won the electoral vote but not the popular vote. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of the electoral college and he won fair and square, but more people voted for Clinton. That's just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:20 AM
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I'm not chalking it all up to that, there were multiple factors at play and you're right that some Obama voters swung to Trump. Although I'm guessing, especially in the rust belt, that had more to do with economic factors than backlash against feminism. The fact remains that numbers were roughly the same for Trump and Romney (with Romney getting slightly more, but there are still some ballots to be counted so that could change) while Clinton's numbers were drastically lower than Obama's. With th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 01:18 AM
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I'm guessing very little. Trump won with fewer votes than Romney lost with in 2012. Voter turnout was down across the board, but especially among Democrats. Dems who turned out in large numbers for Obama in key states didn't do so for Clinton; thus, Trump won. (Let's not forget more people actually voted for Clinton; Trump won in a technicality, just like Bush in 2000.) The demographics who voted for Trump are the same ones who always tend to vote GOP. This wasn't some white male revolution. Peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:54 AM
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No. I never really understood this feeling of "connectedness" or obligation to others based on belonging to the same group, especially one as big as the female sex. I feel the same way about race. I'm supposed to feel connected to this person because we happen to share some arbitrary physical features? Seems silly. That said, I feel a sense of sisterhood and connectedness with the women in my life in a way that I don't feel with the men in my life. I get fiercely defensive of my female friends i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 07:58 PM
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It means you don't experience sexual desire in the absence of emotional connection. Made up term for something pretty normal IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 07:17 PM
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Yeah, it's the anonymity factor. Plus, people don't really walk places in suburbs and rural areas. That's an urban thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:56 PM
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Sure, I don't think someone should flirt and lead the other person on if they're not genuinely interested. We're in agreement there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 07:23 PM
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Exactly! There's a different dynamic to flirting when you're in a relationship (a more fun one, I agree.) But I can't imagine that these people who hate flirting during the early stages are very flirtatious once they're actually in a relationship either. Sad IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 05:41 PM
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You flirt with your husband though, right? Honestly every time flirting comes up here it becomes pretty obvious to me why some of these men struggle in relationships. If you think flirting is a boring waste of time and refuse to do it, it's little wonder your wife won't fuck you. I can't imagine being in a relationship where we didn't flirt with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 04:40 PM
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Fuck, I didn't know that. Although I do remember reading about his label screwing him out of the rights to some of his songs. Fucking Simon Cowell of all people owns the rights to "Hallelujah," that's why it's fucking everywhere in pop culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 04:32 PM
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I'm torn up about this :(
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 04:45 AM
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This fact is consistently glossed over here by both sides. It really irritates me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 07:42 PM
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This is why I played dungeons and dragons for literally two hours in high school before saying "Fuck this shit" and never playing again. This kind of thing is so mind-numbingly boring to me. I couldn't even finish reading the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:32 AM
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Plan B has to be taken within 72hrs, doesn't always work, and is to prevent pregnancy, not end it. If you're already pregnant, Plan B will do jack shit for you. It doesn't belong in the same convo as abortion. Also who else's perspective would you describe abortion from besides the mother's? She's the one getting the abortion...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:25 AM
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Well said and absolutely spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:00 AM
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The people saying this are pretty dumb IMO. Trump didn't win with the sexist bigot vote. I'm sure some sexist bigots voted for him, but he won the election because the Democratic party ran a shitty campaign with a shitty candidate, got arrogant and didn't bother campaigning in the states that ultimately cost them the election (Clinton didn't step foot in Wisconsin after the primaries.) The fact that the rust belt -- which largely went for Obama in 2012 and for Sanders in this year's primaries --…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 05:59 AM
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Yeah, that's probably why. I was only 12 at the time but I remember a ton of controversy over him being a draft dodger and doing drugs in college, and I lived in a conservative household where Fox News was on 24/7. But I'm sure that kind of sensationalism didn't get as much coverage outside of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 05:36 AM
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How old are you? I was fairly young during Bush's first run for president and I VIVIDLY remember those topics being beaten to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:34 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 08:20 PM
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Are you prolife or prochoice? Pro-choice. Would you personally get an abortion if you found yourself pregnant today? No. My boyfriend and I have had this conversation and agree at this point we would keep it. Would you have an abortion if you wanted to keep it, but your husband/boyfriend/other told you to have an abortion? Probably. I think it's fucked up to bring a baby into the world who isn't wanted by both parents. If you found yourself inconveniently pregnant and wanted to abort it, would y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:04 PM
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YES. Been saying this for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 05:36 PM
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I voted Clinton. Essentially, I voted for a liberal Supreme Court.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 03:59 PM
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I was 22 but we started dating at 24. Isn't the average age of marriage for women something like 26? So it stands to reason most women meet the guy they settle down with and start dating him in their early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 05:23 AM
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"women can't be sexually attracted to a man they don't respect" I think that is more accurate. Ah, yeah, that is what I meant. The rest of your comment Interesting thoughts, and I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 02:19 AM
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Respect is NOT sexual attraction. Actually, respect, defined as the concentration of admiration and deference, is pretty much the bedrock of female sexual attraction. Men do not require respect to feel sexually attracted to a woman. Women, however, do. Thanks for saying this. I didn't want to speak out of turn but I was pretty sure that "women can't be attracted to a man they don't respect" was a pretty basic tenet of RP theory in regards to female sexual attraction (and one I happen to agree wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 01:17 AM
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Yeah that's my experience too. I have a couple of friends who are/were dealers and they look like normal people and even have respectable day jobs. I just find it weird that drugs are seen as a moral issue. Like I said, I don't partake myself, but try as I might I can't figure out why people think it's "immoral." Too many after-school specials I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:59 PM
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Lol I guess so. I don't even do drugs but I'm not naive and sheltered enough to think your local college weed dealer is some ruthless Walter White character.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:49 PM
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I think it's "new relationship energy" or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:31 PM
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What about having tattoos or being a drug dealer makes a person unkind?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:10 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:10 PM
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I agree with this definition. It's true that being nice, kind, respectful etc. isn't enough to make a man attractive. But the other side of that coin is that being hot isn't enough either. Attractive = both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:05 PM
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Yeah I hear ya. I mean I'm sure it's different in the South or Midwest than it is where you live just because there's still so much evangelical Christian influence here. But the truth is the virginal Christian weirdos are marrying each other when they're like 19 (I went to a Christian college and the phrase is "ring by spring" - meaning the couple starts dating in the fall and are engaged by the spring. It's alarmingly common.) Everyone else is having fun, and truth be told most couples I know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:35 PM
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maybe its true in the bible belt It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 05:56 PM
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Plenty of women think bald Bruce is sexy, I assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 04:29 PM
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Ever heard of Bruce Willis? Lots of women think he's sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 03:55 PM
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Man, I was never really into bald guys and never understood women who were...until I had this professor in grad school who is the hottest bald dude I've ever seen in my life. And I genuinely don't think he'd be as attractive with hair. Not gonna lie, I had a little schoolgirl crush on him. A few months after the semester ended I was at a bar with some friends and saw him in a corner booth on a date...with another man, who was also gorgeous. I was like, "Figures." Anyway, I am a believer in the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 03:55 PM
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I agree. I never got it. The passage of time affects us all. It's pretty much the most "fair" thing there is. No use fretting about the inevitable, just take care of yourself and try to age gracefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 03:47 PM
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You're not going to like it here...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 03:39 PM
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You didn't already get one for the Vagina Red Cross?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 03:34 PM
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I was about to say the exact same thing. RPers talk about "the wall" as the moment when your looks start to fade and you notice no one's paying special attention and doing you favors just because you're pretty anymore. But if you were never pretty to begin with... it's not much of a change. I'm not a hideous swamp creature or anything, but I was never turning any heads with my looks and I've been well aware of that since I was ten years old. No one as ever said "Damn" when I entered a room, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:35 AM
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I mean, this thread was just asking what women would like to see. Kind of ruins the fun if you get all realistic about it, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:24 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 08:06 PM
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I fantasize about him in realistic scenarios. I think back to amazing times we've had together and look forward to doing it again. I can't even imagine being with someone else, or wanting to. Other men become nonsexual beings in my eyes when I'm in a relationship. Edit: I just realized the title singled out "romantics" which I don't consider myself to be. This is just how my brain works. Mods, if I need to move my comment just lmk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 06:56 PM
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I suppose but why would a woman agree to that? Why wouldn't she? If she doesn't want to have a kid either then this changes nothing for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 06:23 PM
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I think most women would trade huge monster dicks for more attractive guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:06 PM
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What? When did I say women shouldn't be responsible for their own contraception? I'm just saying if men are so concerned about her sabotaging the condom, there is an extremely easy solution -- bring your own. If you think telling men to provide their own condoms is "obviating [women] from any responsibility" then I'm not sure what to tell you. That's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:56 PM
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😂❤
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:35 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:32 PM
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The whole poking holes in the condom thing is so ridiculous. If guys are so worried about this, why don't they always provide the condoms? Keep it in your wallet, take it out, put it on. Simple. At no point in that process does the woman have an opportunity to puncture the condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 07:40 AM
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Me either. I hadn't even considered what you said about mothers who put their babies up for adoption, but I believe you're right -- her rights are relinquished at the time of birth, and up until that time she can change her mind. I could be wrong but I believe that's how it works, at least in some places. I've known guys who got girls pregnant and were dead set on not being in the kid's life, until it was a couple of years old and then things changed. I think it's easy to say you want nothing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 07:37 AM
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I guess I just don't hang out in circles where it matters. I'm not sure I've ever even met a "socialite," and I don't consider the club scene part of the adult world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 06:39 AM
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I feel like I'm just going to fall into the trap of describing my bf, haha, but I'll try to be as objective as possible. Looks: Hispanic or darker-complected white. Dark hair and eyes. Taller than me, but doesn't have to be a lot; I'm 5'7, so 5'9-5'11 is the sweet spot. Thick, beefy body, strong but not ripped/toned. Big hands. No facial hair. Personality: Introverted but not shy. Good sense of humor; knows how to be self-deprecating and how to tease without being mean. Creative in some way. Wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:08 AM
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Ahh, ok. I'm not sure if you're new here, or what, but you should know that no one here really takes that user seriously and her opinions are ENTIRELY her own. I don't think you're going to find anyone else here who thinks it's a good idea for a young guy to marry a woman over twice his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:40 AM
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Very good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:32 AM
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Lol yep, you're spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:09 AM
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No, it will never go away. There will always be sociopaths and strangers in alleys and violent, sadistic assholes. Rape/consent eduction isn't meant to stop those guys, because really, nothing is going to stop those guys. Instead it's meant to clear up some of the "gray areas" where consent can be violated, sometimes without the perpetrator even intending to do so. Education can absolutely help us reduce those instances. And before anyone jumps on me for saying all men or rapists or something, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:06 AM
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Yeah I figured. I think there's probably a kernel of truth to the whole "wife goggles" thing, because building good memories and affection with a person over the course of years is probably going to soften the blow of the aging process in your eyes. But I don't believe a man looking at his 55-year-old wife is seeing the exact same thing he saw standing across from her at the altar 30 years before. Just don't buy it. I mean, if wife goggles were so strong and powerful, men wouldn't become repulse…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 03:02 AM
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...? I'm saying getting married at 20 isn't going to make it any easier for a woman to look 20 forever. Your replies make no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 02:55 AM
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Are you going to address how it's impossible for women to look 20 forever? Sure. Get married when you are 20 if you're so worried about it. You realize time doesn't freeze when a woman gets married, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 02:50 AM
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The 20% stat is for "typical use," meaning the couple usually uses a condom but sometimes goes without, or puts the condom on halfway through, etc. With "perfect use" (i.e. using a condom every time and putting it on before the P goes anywhere near the V), the failure rate is a much less terrifying 5%. (Source) If you combine a condom with the pullout method or the pill, your chances of getting pregnant are very very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 02:39 AM
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less butthole GOD, yes. My #1 complaint with porn right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:46 AM
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Technical writing too. I got my master's in tech comm which is all about taking complex subjects and communicating about them effectively. It's all about precision and efficiency. Relying on overly verbose, meandering sentences is the mark of a weak writer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:41 AM
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allergies exist preventing the use of condoms for some I'm sick of seeing this excuse. There are latex-free condoms. They're literally right next to the normal condoms and cost roughly the same. You can even get them for free at planned parenthood, just tell them you have a latex allergy. Source: Woman with latex allergy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:24 AM
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shrugs idk what to tell you. None of my boyfriends have ever had an issue with it, lol. But I'm not a very imaginative person in general. It's easier for me to daydream about something I've already experienced than to make up a whole new scenario in my head. My brain just defaults to the familiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:23 AM
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Why fantasize about having sex with someone when you can actually have real live sex with them. Because they're not always around? There's not logic to it. It's not like I do it on purpose. But when my mind wanders and I find myself daydreaming and fantasizing, it's about him. Even when I have sex dreams (which I obviously have no control over), they're always about him. I have sexual tunnel vision when I'm in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:18 AM
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Lol, good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 10:38 PM
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My uninsured brother had an aortic aneurysm a few months ago and was in the waiting room for EIGHT HOURS before the doctor saw him. He damn near died.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 10:26 PM
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Seriously, if I wrote a paragraph like that in grad school I would have had points docked for verbosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 10:01 PM
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Lol I'm exactly the same way. When people talk about imagining someone besides their partner while having sex/masturbating I'm like, "What? Why?" I pretty much only watch lesbian porn, on the rare occasion I watch it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 09:52 PM
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First of all, the predominant view from the women here is that most women aren't interested in casual sex, even with super hot guys, because they won't be aroused and are highly unlikely to ever reach orgasm. In fact, most women here constantly point out that a significant percentage of women rarely, if ever, orgasm, regardless the level of relationship. So someone reaching orgasm in the face of complete fear, revulsion, and discomfort (psychological and maybe even physical)? Seems pretty unlike…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 05:56 PM
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Is it really feasible though? I really can't imagine most people sitting down and signing a contract before sex. Or is it like a waiver you sign that applies to all your sexual relationships from there on out? If so that makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 05:16 PM
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What does it mean if they're the same length?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 05:12 PM
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Wow I didn't know that. That seems...ill-advised.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 05:07 PM
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Yeah sure, if you ignore the literally thousands of feminists gleefully sharing these articles on facebook and blogs, squealing derisively about how men are weak and can't handle birth control side effects that women have endured for years. I guess I'm not friends with shitheads on Facebook, because most of the people I've seen share it were critical of the article. And all those feminist sites with millions of daily viewers running misleading hit pieces that snidely insinuate that men are weak …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:06 PM
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Yeah I'm very confused. I thought I was misunderstanding his argument at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 04:02 PM
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Who is even suggesting that men in their 20s and 30s should marry 50-year-olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:59 PM
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Almost every person I've seen share these articles on Facebook and Twitter, many of them women, have pointed out the obvious flaws and bias. The only place I've seen them shared in earnest are dumb subs like TrollX. Ironically, the people sharing them because they have a problem with it are feeding into the problem by giving these sites more clicks and engagement, which is why these articles continue to be written. It's just like that dumbass "meninist" troll a couple weeks ago who said somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:39 AM
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You mean like men who are all "Oh boohoo , periods and childbirth. Try getting kicked in the balls! Then you'll know REAL pain, ladies!" Oh wait, that never happens 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:33 AM
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Do you guys think maybe these articles keep being written because people keep reading them and then sharing them in anger? Do y'all understand how clickbait works?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 03:27 AM
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Do you at least concede that it's proof that men aren't always quite as forthcoming as you claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:37 PM
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Haha my bf uses that stuff from Lush. It smells so good!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:22 PM
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I understand what you're trying to say. You're just wrong about it. Men don't lie about these things. Men are really quite straight up about what they want from women. How can you say that when I gave you a list of like 15 men not being "straight up" about it? WHY did those men not mention physical attraction in their requirements for a perfect wife? Why can't you answer this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:16 PM
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everyone knows that men fap to porn. That's what porn is FOR. You realize I don't believe that men don't watch porn, right? Why do you keep saying this as if it's the point? Men say they don't watch porn. They tell women they don't like girls with thick, slathered-on makeup and fake tits, but then they watch porn and masturbate to it. Women know they're lying about not watching porn because we see evidence to the contrary all the fucking time. That's, like, my entire point and it's blowing my mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:45 PM
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And those guys want to fuck that stripper but can't because they're not attractive enough. The only reason that stripper pays them any attention is that roll of Jacksons in his pocket. Of course he thinks she's nasty. That doesn't mean he wouldn't fuck her if he could. But he can't. What the hell does this have to do with anything? It doesn't change the fact that men SAY "Strippers are gross, they're not even attractive, I don't even see the point of going to strip clubs" but then go to strip cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:21 PM
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Lol. Why thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:56 PM
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My point is that NO ONE is told that attractiveness is a prerequisite. Seriously? No one ever sat you down and told you that you need to be good looking? That men are attracted to pretty women, cute women, hot women? No one ever told you this? Not even once? No. Literally never. But even more importantly is that no one actively LIES to you about it. No one actively seeks to cover up the fact that men like attractive women. No one hides it, obfuscates it or lies to you about it. NO one deliberate…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:40 PM
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There isn't a single female in the West who even makes it out of puberty without someone helping her along, someone explaining to her in plain language, that men want attractive women, that men aren't attracted to smart, or overweight, or funny. They're attracted to hot. Women get that education and explanation. Men don't. Yeah, no, we don't. We are never EXPLICITLY told that. We figure it out through observation. You think people ACTUALLY tell young girls "Guys don't care if you're smart or fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:39 PM
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What does any of this have to do with the fact that pre-RP men aren't being told that attractiveness is a necessary prerequisite? My point is that NO ONE is told that attractiveness is a prerequisite. Even RP men don't say attractiveness is a prerequisite (as evidenced by the examples I just gave you.) It's obvious to the vast, vast majority of people -- so much so that the ones constantly complaining "But we were never TOLD we need to be attractive!" do the exact same thing without even realizi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:34 PM
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It's funny. I was reading the "what makes a perfect wife" thread from yesterday, and I noticed something odd. Take a look at these replies (all of which are from non-BP men): Honest, loyal, and kind, above all else. Respectful, industrious, kind, trustworthy. Low N Count, Loyal, Sweet, Gentle, Not Materialistic, Not Loud, doesn't care about dumb shit like Kim Kardashian or whatever dumbass celebrity is doing these days. Strong sex drive, does what I like in the bedroom, can orgasm from sex. Is i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:01 PM
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I'm on your side. Something you do passively is not a hobby, it's a pastime. If you write fanfic or make fan art or do cosplay or something, that's a hobby. But enjoying TV/movies/games in and of itself is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:31 PM
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I find it interesting that almost none of the top-level replies in this thread specify that the woman should be attractive. I guess looks aren't that important to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:26 AM
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😨
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 05:19 AM
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Sure. Yes. That is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:52 PM
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A giant pit bull growling at you also isn't "creepy." It's not because the pit bull is hot, it's because the threat it poses is immediate, direct and tangible. Creepiness is more insidious and harder to pinpoint. The pit bull is scary, but not creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:49 PM
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Why are there smokers when there are so many ads shaming smokers? Why are there drunk drivers if MADD exists? Why are there fat people if fat shaming exists? Why are there murderers when murder is illegal? This is a silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 04:25 PM
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Shouts of "But men and women are different!!!!!" in 3...2...1...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 08:18 PM
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Exactly, so why is he marrying her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:58 PM
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Yeah I'm confused by this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 02:22 PM
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THANK YOU. I'll never understand why people don't see that the things you do/say is how other people experience "who you are," and thus it's what they're going to love (or not love) about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 02:16 PM
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Not too personal :) I am, but I've had this problem before I was on BC. I've been on BC about three years and this problem goes back like 8, at least. That's worrying, though. Is cervical erosion something that can be detected in a regular pelvic exam/pap smear?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:53 AM
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I want someone to come home to, to lean on in hard times, to share joy with in good times, to be my teammate in life and to raise a family with... who happens to be hot and a lot of fun in the sack. Fortunately, I've found him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:37 AM
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Been to a lot of bachelorette parties and ran with a fairly "wild" group of girls in college. Never been to or heard about a bachelorette party with a stripper.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:31 AM
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Hurts all the time for me, but a week or so before my period especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:22 AM
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Lol, I was thinking about this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 03:00 AM
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No no, didn't you hear? Doctors and lawyers from upper-middle-class families are lining up marry lower-class trailer park girls who work at diners (provided they're "feminine" enough, of course.) Happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:47 PM
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Yeah, I have a friend who has a gap like that and I think it's really adorable! She's from Australia, idk if their conventions w/r/t dentistry/orthodontics are more similar to the US or the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:39 PM
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Yeah, a lot of girls did the homeschool thing there too. It was also a large, urban school so I'm sure that factors in. The city I worked in at one time had the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country (not sure if it still holds that distinguished title), and my school had the highest pregnancy rate of the four high schools in our district (along with the highest rates of drug use, truancy and kids in the justice system) so it was a sad state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:28 PM
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Last year we had two pregnant HS students. This year only one, but we have plenty of time left. Only two?! That's amateur hour. One year when I was teaching I had three pregnant girls in first period.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:20 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:13 PM
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Ah! I knew I'd seen him somewhere recently. It was the trailer for that movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:54 PM
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Yeah that makes sense to me too tbh. Smooth, shiny things look pretty and feel nice to the touch. This is probably a case of #ItsNotThatDeep
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:55 PM
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Shocked face. Yawn would be like... ;O
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:53 PM
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:O
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:40 PM
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I mean, that's fine. I don't care that men aren't attracted to hairy women (I prefer men with clean-shaven faces myself, so I get it.) It's just funny the lengths some will go to to insist that these preferences are innate and evolutionary and not at least slightly influenced by culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:38 PM
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--the lack of local abortion providers means it's unconstitutionally too hard to get an abortion. Medical providers should be required to provide abortions For the third time, I'm not saying and I do not believe that anyone should be FORCED to provide abortions. I'm saying that the providers ALREADY providing safe abortions should not be forced to stop via unreasonable restrictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:26 PM
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No way. You're blowing my mind right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:25 PM
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See my edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:25 PM
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restrictive, unnecessary and expensive abortion laws which were struck down. Whatcha bitchin about? The ones in Texas? They absolutely were not and there are more being drafted as we speak. Edit: I stand corrected, the decision was reversed but most of those clinics remain closed. And I'm "bitchin" about the fact that these laws were ever put in place at all. I'm sure the women who weren't able to get abortions for the last two years as a result are comforted by the fact that they've been revers…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:15 PM
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You're fighting a losing battle, I learned in that thread the other day that this topic is triggering for a lot of folks here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:11 PM
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Where did I suggest any of that??? Those clinics didn't close down because the doctors didn't want to perform abortions, lol. They closed down because of restrictive, unnecessary and expensive abortion laws passed by a GOP legislature dead-set on restricting abortion access. Obviously it's more insidious than directly repealing Roe v Wade (which you're right, is never going to happen) but if you think the intent and outcome aren't effectively the same for disadvantaged women, you're blind. PS so…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:08 PM
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If you put that guy and Sean O'Pry next to each other I can't guarantee I'd be able to tell you which was which. They're both fairly generic prettyboy models.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:03 PM
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Over half of the abortion clinics in Texas have closed since 2013. There is ONE clinic serving the entire western half of the state (incidentally, the poorest half with the most out-of-wedlock pregnancies and the highest population of people who can't afford to drive hundreds of miles and book a hotel room for the duration of the FOUR doctors appointments they have to attend.) This is not "chicken littling," this shit is happening in my own backyard and has affected people I know, and there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 04:56 PM
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Haha. I have porcelain veneers on 6 of my teeth (my natural teeth are reeeeally bad; healthy, but too small and pointed so they don't fit together correctly.) It's weird because they give you, like, swatches and you decide what color you want, like you're picking out paint for a wall or something. Of course my natural inclination was "Give me the prettiest, whitest ones, duh?" but my dentist talked me into a more yellowish option because it looked more natural and matched my natural teeth. I'm r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 04:17 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:14 PM
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Bad for your teeth also.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:13 PM
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Poor people should just let their kids starve to death, duh. You can have more kids later when you're rich. You gotta think long-term!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:52 PM
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My (American) friend who lived in the UK for a while told me that the "Brits have bad teeth" stereotype is due not to poor dental hygiene, but less reliance on orthodontics than Americans. He said Brits get regular cleanings and all of that, but they only wear braces if something is really wrong, as opposed to Americans for whom wearing braces is almost an adolescent rite of passage. So Americans see that Brits have crooked teeth and assume "bad oral hygiene." Do you think that's accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 01:55 PM
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Me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 01:20 PM
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You said not all men can use condoms because of latex allergies. That's just blatantly not true since latex-free condoms exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 01:11 PM
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There are latex-free condoms. I have to use them because I have a latex allergy, and according to my bf they actually feel better. Agree that men should have more options though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:03 AM
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Ok, I just went into your comment history and I see them now. Do you realize the person you reposted them in reply to isn't me, and therefore I was never notified that you posted them? I apologize for "ignoring" a comment I never saw until now. I don't obsessively check every thread I comment on for new posts. All the same, thanks for the links, I'll check them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:35 AM
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???? You replied to me that they were in your post history and you didn't feel like digging them up. I didn't go back and look for them, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:18 AM
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Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I think this is probably a matter of more red tape/stricter FDA policies than existed in the '50s (when clinical trials for female BC took place) than men demanding the trials be haulted because they can't handle the side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:13 AM
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My ex-boyfriend was abused and molested as a child. We met online and talked for a couple of months before meeting in person (we lived in different cities so logistically it took us a while to meet.) Our second in-person meeting was when we decided to make it "official," and was also the first time we slept together. That's when he told me. It was important for him that I knew before we had sex because he had certain boundaries in bed due to his past trauma that I needed to be aware of. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:39 PM
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Yep, I'm the exact same way. Hot guys are intimidating, and if one flirts with me I get suspicious. Being in a hot guy's presence doesn't make me think about sex, it makes me think about everything that's wrong with me and all the many reasons I could never get a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:17 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:09 PM
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Nah, not so much short men (I do prefer a guy taller than me, but it's not a strong preference and I've dated/slept with shorter guys.) The "repulsive" comment is more about the feminine guys I used to be into--emo/hipster guys who wear eyeliner and skinny jeans, stuff like that. Short doesn't read as "feminine" to me so it's not really a big deal. Also, I realize "repulsive" was my word originally but it's a bit of a strong one. I'm not recoiling in disgust at these guys; I'm just not remotely …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:02 PM
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I also think it's kind of hilarious when modern day anti-feminists paint the suffragettes as reasonable and oh, if only modern day feminists would be like them. Lol, exactly. Sort of like people who say "If only BLM activists were mild and moderate like MLK, they'd get so much more respect and people would listen to their ideas!" Conveniently ignoring the fact that MLK was considered a dangerous radical and was fucking murdered for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:14 AM
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Yeah, that's the ideal, isn't it? A man who could cheat but doesn't. It's one of the things TRP gets right IMO -- women want men that are wanted by other women. (Of course, as usual they take it too far and turn it into "Women love hot guys who cheat on them!")
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:06 AM
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Ok, that was pretty impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:43 PM
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Do you have a citation for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:37 PM
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. He's the best singer that's alive right now Citation DESPERATELY needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:25 PM
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Yeah. I mean, most of the crazies are teenagers, or college students at the very oldest. I'm sure if someone found my junior high Xanga they'd make fun of the ridiculous shit I said too. It's kind of pathetic to me how many grown-ass adults spend time worrying about what dumb teenagers write on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 07:06 PM
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I was at the Formula 1 Grand Prix last weekend and there was a plane flying over the track with a banner reading "Chinese-American Texans for Trump." I found it amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:51 PM
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:'D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 06:45 PM
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I'm on Tumblr and I've made several friends on there. We're all pretty normal as far as looks go, no crazy dyed hair or tattoos. But I stay away from the crazier SJW-y areas (half of which are trolls anyway) and most people on my dash are older than the typical Tumblr demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:30 PM
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From my own experience and watching those around me, it seems like masculinity in a mate becomes increasing important with age for a lot of women. I was actually talking about this with a friend just last night. In high school and college, we were attracted to much more feminine guys. Half the guys I crushed on were straight-up gay. I even went through a phase where I was really attracted to guys shorter than me. I'm not sure when exactly the shift happened -- I'm guessing around 22 or so -- but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:25 PM
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Classicism is the biggest problem but we do everything to ignore it. Shift the blame on racism, shift it on sexism, just never mention the real enemy. This is extremely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 05:17 PM
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Agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 03:13 AM
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Yeah. I don't think most guys are selfish in bed; in my experience, they're open and willing to please, and they appreciate guidance. Granted, my experience is limited (especially when it comes to casual sex), but of the 4 guys I've slept with, only one was selfish and stubborn. I don't think it's the norm, or the reason for the orgasm gap. I think women don't speak up for a couple of reasons. Unfortunately a lot of girls are still brought up believing sex is something you do for a man, and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:42 PM
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Hmm, OK. I can't relate to that I guess. Sex without an orgasm just leaves me frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:22 PM
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I don't understand, if the hug/kiss/grope that gives her an orgasm became the only sex act we ever did, then of course I wouldn't want to do it. That's not what I'm saying. I just used hug/kiss/grope because that's what you said in your original comment. Okay. Imagine a world where sex -- the actual process of you putting your penis in a woman's vagina -- virtually guaranteed an orgasm for her, but didn't guarantee one for you, and you often went without. Would that be satisfying for you? Would …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:18 PM
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If she got orgasms from us making out What? I'm not talking about making out, I'm talking about sex. The fact that this is where you went with the hypothetical kind of confirms my suspicion that this is something (most) men fundamentally can't relate to. Maybe you're different, but I have a hard time believing most men would be perfectly satisfied with sex where the woman got off but they didn't, "Because hey, at least she kissed me and touched my penis."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:02 PM
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A diva is the female version of a hustla
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:50 PM
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See I actually agree with him... pregnancy and childbirth is a lot of pain and risk, but I think it's kind of amazing to be the gender that's able to grow new life inside my body. I don't think I'd trade it if I could. But I don't have kids either and it's very likely I'll change my mind when I do, lol Not periods though, fuck those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:43 PM
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If sex for you meant she got an orgasm and you got hugged, kissed and groped, you'd be satisfied with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:40 PM
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Thoroughly agree with this comment, but the last paragraph in particular is spot-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:23 PM
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Sex is pointless without them tbh. Fortunately I orgasm easily so it's never been an issue. On the rare occasion a guy didn't get me off (which really only happened with my first bf), I do it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:52 PM
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I agree with all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:25 PM
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Yeah. He's yummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:02 PM
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I think they meant "parents of millennials" (i.e. Boomers and older Gen Xers), but I agree the phrasing was confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:01 PM
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Facial hair no since it doesn't occur in women without some sort of hormonal imbalance, but body hair and underarm hair yes, absolutely. Those are literally signs that a woman has been through puberty and has reached reproductive age. A woman who doesn't grow hair on her legs or under her arms is either prepubescent or suffering from a condition like alopecia. Please note I'm not saying it's wrong to be attracted to women who shave. I shave, and I like clean-shaven men. It's all good! It's just …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 12:00 AM
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I loooove cuddling, but I'm also really hot-natured so it's a constant battle between being cuddly and being cool :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:50 PM
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I'm the opposite - not slutty in the least but people tend to think I am because of my personality and how I dress
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:44 PM
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How do you know she isn't black?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:44 PM
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Excessive body hair maybe. But a normal amount of body hair is just...normal, and does indicate fertility more than a lack of body hair does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:24 PM
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I mean, sure, that's one example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:23 PM
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Young Harrison Ford was a hottie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:22 PM
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Josh Turner the country singer? If so A+, he's a cutie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:18 PM
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There are other kinds of attractive besides male model pretty boy attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:06 PM
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Yeah I can definitely see why he's not everyone's thing. I just think he has the most gorgeous lips and eyes, and like Spacewhiskey said, he gives off "freaky animal sex" vibes. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:57 PM
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Your taste is a lot more "pretty boy" than mine, but I do think Zayn and Cilian Murphy are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:56 PM
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SO MUCH THIS. He has a "dirty" look about him. I can't place it exactly but he oozes sexuality to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:54 PM
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Friends, totally. I like variety in the people I hang out with and it doesn't bother me if we disagree on certain things. In fact it can be fun. LTR, no. We just wouldn't be compatible. I don't do casual dating/flings, so...N/A
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:53 PM
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Yeah that's...a bizarre opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:07 PM
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Definitely recommend seeing him again if you get a chance. I'd love to go to one of his solo tours, or one of the shows he does with Bela Fleck. He's one of those artists I feel privileged to be alive at the same time as him. A once-in-a-lifetime talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:16 PM
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OMG we just became best friends. I've been in love with him since high school when I chanced upon Nickel Creek's "When In Rome" video. He's just full of raw energy and passion. I've seen him in concert several times (once with Nickel Creek and a couple times with the Punch Brothers) and he literally makes me weep. On that note, Noam Pickelny, the banjo player for the Punch Brothers, is also quite dashing. And he's got that nice, deep voice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 06:18 PM
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My boobs are very similar to hers, so this comment was an ego boost lol. Too bad I don't have the rest of her body or her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:47 PM
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Eli Roth, Ryan Bingham, and the the guy who plays Branson on Downton Abbey. (Idk the actor's name, but...yum.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:33 PM
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We have v similar taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:31 PM
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Eli Roth <33333 He's my fav.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:29 PM
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CHRISTOPH WALTZ <3
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:28 PM
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As a woman with breasts like this, it's never been a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:39 PM
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Haha man this could not be more wrong for me. (idk if I'm the norm among BPers though) Although I actually don't know what a Leinie or a Yuengling is but I'm guessing that's a regional thing, not a class thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 02:23 AM
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Yeah this is annoying to me. Hairlessness doesn't signal fertility in women; quite the opposite. And for some reason thick, luscious hair on your head is feminine but thick hair on your body is not? And I'm supposed to believe these preferences are innate and a result of evolution? Anything to avoid admitting our preferences are influenced by culture, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:09 AM
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Another thing that often gets forgotten is that fapping to porn conditions men to be quiet. I can't stand this. It's eerie when guys don't make noise. It's also a BS cop-out. Like girls are just screaming their lungs out when they masturbate in their bedrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:32 PM
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That's an abortion pill. Not remotely the same thing as a morning after pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:13 PM
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Never heard of it (not saying you're wrong though.) Even so, 60 days isn't a very big window either -- a lot of women don't know they're pregnant until 6 or 8 weeks, especially if they're on a birth control that causes them to skip periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:07 PM
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Hey good luck! And it's cool that you're helping out your brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:36 PM
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Morning after pill requires you to know right away that your birth control failed (like say a condom breaks or you realize you skipped a pill). You have to take it within 72hrs of having sex. Sometimes the pill or an IUD fails and you don't know until your next period, if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:32 PM
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I know nothing about it but I'm very excited!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:04 PM
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Going to the Formula 1 Grand Prix...mostly because Taylor Swift is performing but I'm also pretty excited about the actual races, I've never been to one before.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 03:27 PM
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I'm the exact same way. My home is my escape. I want it to be relaxing and pleasant to look at. Plus, it's the most expensive thing I have, so it just makes sense to take care of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 02:53 AM
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Morale*
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:31 PM
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Well if she's FWB with you then she's obviously "down to fuck," isn't she?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:51 PM
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Lol, I did too, and I was just on the Westworld sub before I came here so I was extra confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 02:05 PM
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Same. Visiting PPD is the most tumultuous part of my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 02:04 PM
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Set her on fire IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 01:24 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 09:53 PM
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Dislike about blue: I agree that RP takes their generalizations too far (and some of them are just straight-up wrong), but blues tend to swing too far the other way and refuse to accept any generalizations ever. It gets tedious. Like about red: I like the idea of abundance mentality and think it's good for guys to have that. Too many men stay in shit relationships because they're worried they won't be able to find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 09:18 PM
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Seriously, this is hurting my brain. Of all the dumb arguments I've been in on this sub, for some reason this one is making me the most upset, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 07:20 PM
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The family from Making a Murderer springs to mind...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 06:01 PM
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Pretty much. That's pretty evident to me when they make the argument that sluts are deserving of derision because getting sex isn't difficult for them. In what other scenario does it make sense to deride someone for doing something that comes easily/naturally? I can't think of any other area where this logic is applied.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:34 PM
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Set him on fire IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 02:42 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 05:01 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 07:30 PM
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That's what I figured. I mean if that wasn't the case then dividing up marital property in a divorce wouldn't be the huge headache it apparently is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:51 PM
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How will this help them determine which house to buy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:29 PM
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For the context of this thread IT DOESN'T MATTER
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:23 PM
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I think the idea is that you wouldn't even apply for the job across the country before consulting your spouse about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:20 PM
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Oh my god, why are you focusing on whose name is on the mortgage? For the context of this thread IT DOESN'T MATTER, the fact remains that both people will be living in the house and contributing financially, and for most couples that means they need to agree on which house to buy. If that's not how you want to do things in your relationship, fine, but please stop giving me unsolicited financial advice. It's obnoxious. And who the fuck said anything about "the morality of it?" Why did you put tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:17 PM
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Why would marriage mean that one person isn't charging another person rent at least on paper? Jesus Christ, that isn't the point. If the couple is married or in a committed LTR then the house that they live in will be a joint decision most of the time and the mortgage will come out of both of their incomes. Therefore they have to make the decision together. Also, I'm not positive because I've never been married but I'm pretty sure both people's names are on the mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:12 PM
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Are you familiar with the concept of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:04 PM
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I don't mean investment in that sense, I'm talking about making big purchases together, like houses and vehicles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:16 PM
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As others have mentioned, the big three tend to be kids, investments and relocation. Of those, the latter is the only one we've delt with thus far and we were in complete agreement about it. We have had conversations about it though, and our rule is that the person who doesn't want to do the thing has veto power. Say he gets a job in a new city but I adamantly don't want to move there (unlikely to happen, but just an example), we wouldn't move. Or say we have two kids and I want a third, but he …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 12:31 AM
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Like a pre-marriage love goggles intervention. That is legitimately a great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 12:16 AM
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Ditto. My mom's really proud of the fact that their wedding cost 500 bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 10:38 PM
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Only men uninterested in a long term relationship are uninterested in their partner's n count. Well, according to some RPers, only low-value men are interested in monogamy and marriage. IIRC it was a post to that effect that caused the whole RPW/RPWi schism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:41 PM
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Huh, this is interesting and I think I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:27 PM
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Nice! Good luck to him. If he pursues that career path and sticks with it he'll have good work for life. And he'll never be bored, that's for sure! This is really one of the most positive things I've taken away from PPD in a few weeks. Well good! Glad I could help :) And in my experience, the "working class" folks that "do good" and get a career generally just keep their roots under wraps at the office. Haha, yep, that's me in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:53 PM
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YES. You've absolutely got the right idea. It seems that with more women going to college from the "working class", perhaps we'll start to see more of them still marrying men from their "roots" and in essence forming a semi-middle class. This is definitely true in the area I grew up in. More girls go to college right out of high school than boys because the boys go straight to work in the oil field, and they make damn good money doing so. The girls go to college and usually become teachers or nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:27 PM
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Lol yep! That's exactly it. Tbf he has a bachelor's degree (we're both the first in our families to go to college), but after about a year of office work he decided it wasn't for him and he'd rather be working with his hands. Funny enough my brother and his wife are similar. My brother doesn't have a degree, he has a real estate license but when he first met his wife he was doing carpentry work. His wife is a nurse practitioner and is the first college grad in her family. Her folks are even more…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:04 PM
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I'm an educated woman with a master's degree marrying a welder, haha. But I fully recognize my outlier status in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:45 PM
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Seriously!!! If he has a sudden shift in his behavior and he starts acting "inappropriate, overly emotional and overly stupid," then that is a change in behavior. Idgaf if he's still the same deep down in his innermost soul or whatever, if his behavior and its effect on MY life has changed then that is a change in him, for all intents and purposes that matter to me. This seems to tie into the TRP idea of wanting to be loved for "who they are" which is apparently some intangible thing fully separ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:01 AM
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Don't listen to these weirdos, this is a quality post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:38 AM
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And birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:35 AM
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Ironically it's a very "feels over reals" attitude. I still have FEELINGS of love for you and that's what counts, despite my very REAL actions and the decisions that led to them. Cheating itself also places temporary feels (horniness, desire for variety, risk seeking) over the "reals" of the existing relationship, shared history with the gf/wife, and consequences of a breakup/divorce. But yaknow, us ladies are just illogical and ruled by our emotions. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:25 AM
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Yeah! I'm always a little nervous to express it because people have told me in the past that it's misogynist or that I'm buying into the notion that vaginas are inherently "dirty." Like, no, vaginas are great and wonderful and there's nothing wrong with them at all, but from a purely sexual standpoint they are thoroughly unappealing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 02:09 AM
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v cute story, 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 01:33 AM
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I've heard as little as three months without sex makes one an incel, so congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:28 PM
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female genital arousal and mental arousal are unrelated Bingo. I don't know if this is weird or normal, I've never really discussed it with anyone before, but I experience signs of physical arousal in times of extreme stress or fear. Have since puberty. Sex is the farthest thing from my mind at those moments, but nevertheless my body is reacting the same way it would if I were making out with a hot dude. I imagine it has to do with blood flow, and like you said, something about the body preparin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:22 PM
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Lol seriously. "I won't be convinced until you do something that's literally impossible and/or unethical to do."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:17 PM
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Oh brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:09 PM
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Or we could just do away with the draft altogether and just let people vote because it's their right as a citizen of this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:47 PM
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This is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:09 PM
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It sounds like you've done a great job. I recently called my mom and thanked her (and by extension my dad) for how they raised us to be frugal and responsible with money, and for teaching us the difference between "want" and "need" (this was a frequent lesson in our house.) I see people my age being such idiots with how they spend their money, or thinking they "need" a new car or the latest iPhone or whatever status symbol, and I'm just really glad my parents ingrained financial responsibility i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:59 PM
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Hahaha, well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:46 PM
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I'm not mad about it and don't see anything in his comment that implies he's treating his gf badly or in a degrading manner. I just also don't see anything there that has to do with soft nos/boundaries which is the context of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:23 PM
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I would simply say that person has no self control and you can't trust them because they easily follow all impulses. Yeah this is the crux of it. It might not be as painful as the emotional affair, but that's still not a person I want to be in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:17 PM
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Honestly I can't stand the thought of either one. I guess the emotional affair would hurt more because it means he was lying to me for an extended period of time, but a random ONS would show that he has no self-control and completely forgot about me/our relationship in the presence of some rando. That hurts in its own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:16 PM
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No, I'm not into non-monogamy and any guy I'm with is well aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:12 PM
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I'm pretty far left, so someone with radically different views from me would be pretty far right. I don't think I could date an extreme right-winger (though I am friends with some.) Just too different, and I'm not one of these people who enjoys having "debates" with my SO. A moderate conservative though, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:03 PM
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Those last two are my ex in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:23 AM
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I get that he can still love/desire me while sleeping with another woman. But I'm not interested in the love of a disloyal and dishonest man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:51 AM
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Could someone explain the down votes? It didn't answer the question at all and just came off as a braggy non sequitur? That's my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 03:46 AM
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I never really thought the distinction was important. I don't think it's possible to entirely separate sex, even casual sex, from emotions. A physical affair is an emotional affair as far as I'm concerned. I've also never known of an emotional affair that didn't eventually turn physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:33 AM
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Yes this is what I was getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:13 AM
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I concur.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:34 AM
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Yeah I could see this being the case, I'd never really thought about it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:30 AM
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That's a perfect amount of time IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:24 AM
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Oh my god, pussy eating scenes in porn turn my stomach. So gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:23 AM
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I mean, the thought literally disgusts me. Nothing about a vagina is sexy or appealing to me and it makes me go "ick" to think of putting my tongue in/near one. But it's still not the same level of disgust I feel when I imagine having sex with a dude I'm not attracted to. So, gun to my head, I'd choose the woman, but both scenarios are wildly unappealing. (I'm talking strictly about PIV sex though. If it was giving oral to a girl vs. giving a gross guy a BJ, I'd probably go with the BJ. It's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:17 AM
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I'm not denying that the majority of users are male, I think that's fairly obvious. I also don't deny that the majority of people don't use Reddit at all. But I don't think either of these facts are sufficient evidence that: A) Women who use Reddit aren't "normal" in other ways. B) The women on PPD are outliers any more than the men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:47 PM
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Personally I'd be more willing to sleep with a decently attractive woman than an unattractive man. And I say that as a woman with, to quote George Costanza, "a staunch record of unblemished heterosexuality."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:42 PM
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Yeah, none of those were that drastic. All of those women, save maybe one, are very pretty even in the before shots.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:39 PM
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I mean, I think the most obvious answer is that there aren't enough rich men in the world for all women to become sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:35 PM
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I don't think Reddit is the big nerdy secret you think it is. Maybe it was at one time. I know several girls at work who I would describe as "basic" who I've heard talk about things they saw on Reddit. Besides that, most guys probably don't post on Reddit either. So if the women here are outliers for that reason, surely the men are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:06 PM
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Dudes on this sub have no concept of weight in general. It's baffling. I was once told I'm "chubby" because I said I weigh 125 at 5'7". Or the amount of dudes here who say they don't date/sleep with women over 120lbs. Suuuuure you don't, bro. And I don't date guys with dicks under 8 inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:45 PM
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I'm not just talking about marriages though, this happens with breakups too (that was the initial context of this discussion, after all.) But either way, if he's doing as you said and trying to get her to break up with him, he still wants to end the relationship. He just doesn't want to be the one to do it officially.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:37 PM
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Interesting. I've long suspected that the oft-quoted statistic that women initiate most breakups/divorces is because of something like this. Men don't like to be the ones who break up (for whatever reason; I'm sure yours is a valid/common one) so they try to get the woman to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:15 PM
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get her to break up with you Why not just break up with her yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:10 PM
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Yeah I'm not arguing with that. I wasn't trying to start a philosophical debate about the nature of morality lol. I guess I shouldn't have used the word "objectively." Let me rephrase: some people are in prison for things that aren't harmful to anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:51 PM
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I actually saw that you lived in West Texas in another comment! I went to TTU for undergrad in lbk and am currently at their medical school in another city. No way! I went to LCU but partied with TTU kids haha. My boyfriend is a TTU grad. I love Lubbock, shithole that it is. It definitely could be the circles I run in. I'm in my 20s so it seems like everyone is getting married, but I don't know anyone taking their spouses name. I literally know 1 female doctor who took her husbands name, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:38 PM
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Obviously don't answer if you don't want to, but I'm wondering where you live. I'm in TX too, and having lived in both the most conservative and most liberal areas of the state, I haven't noticed a large number of women keeping their maiden names. It's certainly still the norm to take the husband's name, from what I see. Unless you're talking about women keeping their maiden name legally but going by their husband's name socially/symbolically, which as I mentioned in another comment does seem to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:15 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:47 PM
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Of course. The context of this thread had to do with convictions which is why I asked about those specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:23 PM
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So you don't believe in false rape convictions, then? Or at least admit they're a tiny tiny minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:14 PM
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I think the closest you can get is acknowledging that it's "wrong" to violate another person's basic rights. So things like murder, theft, rape, kidnapping; you'd be pretty hard-pressed to find anyone who didn't think those things were "wrong," or at the very least deserving of punishment in a civilized society. I was more referring to crimes like drugs and prostitution. It's a lot harder to justify those things being "wrong" outside of a moralistic framework.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 08:12 PM
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It's really funny to me how people are clutching their pearls about the word "deplorables" when Trump says worse every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:56 PM
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This, and also there are a lot of things that are crimes that aren't objectively "wrong."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:18 PM
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My boyfriend has taken to doing "Trump monologues" from our dog's perspective. "I deserve a walk, because I'm the best dog. Everybody knows this, lots of people are saying this, they say 'She's the best dog,' you know. Treats. We're going to get lots of treats, I know a guy, makes the best treats you ever had in your life. Belly rubs. We're gonna do it all, it's gonna be great."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:14 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:09 PM
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See I'm the opposite - I could (and have) date a fat guy with a cute face. Don't think I could do an ugly (to me)* guy even if he had a good body. *I specify "to me" because a lot of guys I think are hot are kinda ugly in the conventional sense, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:10 PM
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Very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:55 PM
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I plan on taking his name just for the simplicity of it. It's not a hill I want to die on and I don't want people asking for the rest of my life why I didn't take his name, or making assumptions about me like the ones you see in this thread. Plus, his name is cool, and it's dying out. My name is lame and literally one of the most common in the world. I don't feel any particular attachment to it, my father or his family, so it's not a big deal for me to give it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:54 PM
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My sister-in-law legally kept her maiden name for professional reasons but uses my brother's name socially. Like, it's what's on her Facebook, it's how she introduces herself, etc. And their kids will have my brother's name. My boyfriend's parents were never officially married (but were together 30+ years before his mom passed away) and his mom used his dad's name socially but didn't legally change it. I had no idea they weren't legally married until I was organizing some documents recently and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:45 PM
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Better posture, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:03 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:55 AM
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Yes! Totally agree. To me, "I could live without you but I CHOOSE to have you in my life and to put in the work to keep you around" is a lot more romantic than "We were brought together by some force in the universe and will fall apart without each other." But then I always was a pragmatist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:43 AM
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10000000000% agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:55 AM
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Yes! And the answer I always get when I say this is "It won't happen if you choose the right man and keep him happy." Which, even if it were true that you can sweet-n-submissive a man into staying with you forever (which it isn't), sometimes men die. Or get sick, or get injured (like happened to our dads.) Any number of unpredictable things can happen. It is downright stupid to put all your happiness and well-being in another person's hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:55 AM
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I got me a hot welder ;) Highly recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:38 AM
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You're like Sardonis in that even when I don't agree with you, I can understand where you're coming from and I like the way you express it. I think you'd be fun to have a beer and a chat with IRL :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:40 PM
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he fell off a roof and they lost their family business and home. It sucks that my dad's emotional instability only increased because of all the intense pain meds that he's been on and off of for over a decade now. ...and I remain convinced that we are actually the same person. My parents went through something very similar. Your mom sounds a lot like mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:23 PM
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🎶Well I was drunk the day my mom got outta prison...🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:53 PM
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Agreed. I think a lot of guys will say they're on Vaselgel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:44 PM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:00 PM
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Brock Turner was an attractive college swimmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:42 PM
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Everybody here who says, "What girl actually thinks that the guy wants to show her his etchings when he invites her upstairs?" Me. That's who would have actually believed it was about etchings. Lol, me too. There's a comedian named Mike Birbiglia who does a bit about how naive he was in high school. "Wait, kids my age are having sex? But how?" That was me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:21 PM
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Yeah. That's just how my dad was brought up. My grandparents were the same way, even though my grandma worked too. Things have changed in recent years though. My dad has softened a lot and he's started being a lot more helpful. He mows the lawn and stuff now and even cooks sometimes. I think he's realized that he was kind of a dick when he was younger and he's trying to make amends for it now. (Funny enough, my mom's dad went through a similar trajectory.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:16 PM
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Friends with a lady whose mom used to party with David Allen Coe. We always told her she was DAC's illegitimate daughter, always good for a laugh. Hahahaha, that's amazing. Went to a funeral of a great aunt where they had a bluegrass band grave side. That was in the 90's. Yep, that's my family. That sounds incredible! I was raised in a church that doesn't do instrumental music, so funerals and church services were all a capella (which is beautiful in its own way.) In private though, my family lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:00 PM
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My dad = "I don't like XYZ, therefore it's bad and everyone should do what I do instead." My mum = "I don't like XYZ, but if it helps other people more power to them." Haha, this is exactly my parents too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:47 PM
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I grew up in rural Bumfuck Nowhere, West Texas. Neither of my parents had a college education or a career per se. My mom ran a daycare out of our house when I was little, then as I got older she started doing secretarial work. Worked for an accountant for a long time, for a government agency and now for a community college. My dad did various jobs in the oil field, sold cars, worked for a medical supply company for a while, and when I was in middle school fulfilled a lifelong dream of owning a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:43 PM
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Are you kidding? I was raised on that shit. I also grew up with some of Waylon's cousins. They're... an interesting bunch, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:35 PM
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I do what I want and say what I want, just like all the rednecks I was raised with and went to high school with. The only difference is that I have spent my life surrounded by people (and close friends) who disagree with me on almost everything I believe in strongly. I very much relate to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:25 PM
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I can't remember who it was, but someone on here called you Skooby Doo one time and for whatever reason it tickled my funnybone. I chuckle every time I see your username now and imagine your comments being read in a Skooby Doo voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:16 PM
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Drunkgirl Sublimemongrel Atlas Gridrexx Sardonis Groovy Shoup88 Lollygagyo ...I'm sure there are a couple I'm forgetting but I'm really bad at remembering usernames :( EDIT: SipsSparklingWater, Nomdplume and Dragoness. I think that's 11, oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:04 PM
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I've been wondering that too. I hope she's OK :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:01 PM
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Awwww thanks! ❤
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:50 PM
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It's like a broken record.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:12 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:00 PM
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My college roommate. Every damn time. "Hey, check out my new tattoo! Isn't it awesome?! By the way, can you spot me $200 for rent this month?" 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:40 PM
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That's one of my favorite books! I'm ashamed I didn't get the reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:37 PM
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A+
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:34 PM
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Me too!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:33 PM
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I sent my friend a song I wanted him to listen to and he replied, "Holy shit, I wasn't expecting a country song, warn me next time!" and I started joking about how he needed a trigger warning for country music. The phrase got stuck in my head for several days and I couldn't stop laughing at how ridiculous it was, and I needed a new Reddit account, so this username was born. (For those not in the know, "TW_[word/phrase]" is how trigger warnings are often tagged on Tumblr.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:30 PM
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I would assume that people donating blood and doing community service do want to do those things, otherwise they wouldn't be doing them. Also, sex is different because there's a lot more risk involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:40 AM
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Yeah but she doesn't want to, that's kind of the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:35 AM
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have you ever been to the gynecologist? You let him stick his hands up there. Why not incels? Yeah and it's painful and unpleasant and something I only do because I have to for my health.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:28 AM
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I don't have one, but I feel it's fairly obvious that most college parties aren't taking place on the actual college campus. But even if I'm wrong, I fail to see what difference it makes. Do you think that college kids of opposite genders WON'T just start socializing off-campus if they are prohibited from doing so on-campus?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:16 PM
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Off-campus, mostly, which is why segregating classes isn't going to help anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:11 PM
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You realize most campus rapes aren't happening in class, right? Students will still go to bars and parties and socialize with the opposite sex. This is where (accusations of) rape is taking place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 10:16 PM
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Are you in commited relationship/fwb arrangement, series of ons, on a dry spell/a virgin/etc.? Committed/cohabitating relationship (4yrs) Are you dating up/down? Pretty evenly matched, I'd say. We come from very similar (working class) backgrounds, we're both very average in looks. I make more money at the moment but not by much. Are you happy with current situation? Very. Do you feel you got lucky/worked hard to achieve it/are held down by some circumstances? I think I worked hard to become a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:30 PM
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I'm just not convinced women wear yoga pants, tank tops, and sun dresses with the sole intent of being oggled at. Oh definitely, I know they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:23 PM
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Well obviously, if someone is tanning I would assume they are in an environment appropriate for that activity. I don't really see how that changes anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:53 PM
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I was gonna say, tons of guys I know say a sundress is the sexiest thing a girl can wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:12 PM
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How is tanning not a good reason??? You can't tan unless you're showing skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:11 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:07 PM
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Yeah, I'd definitely agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:07 PM
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I grew up lower-class and dated a guy from an UMC family in college, and yeah, I was scrutinized. Maybe not as much as I would have been if the genders are reversed (I agree it's probably even worse for men in that situation), but there were definitely certain members of his family who made it clear that I didn't belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:58 PM
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According to Google. I was surprised too! I thought maybe 5,9, 5'10. Hard to tell on TV I guess. Plus he slouches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:52 PM
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My tin foil hat theory is that this tape was released by the Trump camp. It was becoming evident he was going to lose, and now they can blame it on character assassination by the mainstream media and GOP establishment. Trump loses presidency, goes on to found alt-right media empire, rakes in the $$$$$. The whole thing is overblown, but whoever released it knew exactly what they were doing and that it was just the sort of thing that would cause this kind of outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:47 PM
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He's 6'2 apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:31 PM
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If they were actually satisfied with it, it would have lasted beyond school. Since when is being "satisfied with it" a requirement for it being an LTR? By that logic any relationship that eventually ended isn't an LTR. The changing of definitions on this sub is ridiculous. Last week sleeping with one person didn't count as monogamy and now a two-year relationship isn't an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:32 AM
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You can have a drink without getting shitfaced and puking. Come on now. (Note that this isn't me trying to convince you to drink; you do you. I'm just saying that it's wrong to think anyone who drinks is a puking party animal degenerate.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 08:02 PM
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Handsomest of the lot? WAT. I'd wager if there was a handsome republican primary contender, it's was Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio is my problematic bae.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 07:59 PM
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My grandpa's 83 and looks younger and healthier than Donald Trump. Trump looks like a pretty average 70-year-old to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 07:56 PM
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I <3 this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 06:57 PM
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EXCELLENTLY put.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 06:55 PM
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If you can handle having discussions without problems then maybe. Dude, both times it's been YOU who brought up past drama. Stop acting like it's me who can't handle myself. Also, yes I have attended sed event, I said I didn't drink. For health reasons to avoid me criticizing those who drink alcohol. I don't care that you don't drink. That's a perfectly valid choice. I personally don't do drugs and never have. I just think it's sillu to act like people who do those things can't also be successfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:47 PM
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A. I'm not salty it's just last time I was banned for pointing it out. So don't point it out. So, to avoid issues it seems like non-communications the best policy. So block me. My decisions are rarely emotional millennials just are bad at managing their drama which is why I distance myself from them, & have so many redundancies in place for handling their emotional/psychological breakdowns. LOL dude, you were the one who had an emotional breakdown about it last time, losing your shit to the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:17 PM
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As a person you might care about multiple things. Feminism, as a movement - by definition - only cares about issues that affect women, and if it so happens to help men too, it trumpets that it cares about men. But a person can be a feminist and also care about other issues. Those issues just won't be a part of their feminist activism. LGBT groups only focus on LGBT issues. That doesn't mean that the members of those groups as individuals don't care about anything else. When your entire movement …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:40 PM
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Also, just statistically how often are those behaviors correlated with successful outcomes? As often as autism; not likely. * Dude, most successful people drink. Ever been to a professional networking event? B. We're not talking I'm still sore at you for posting that slanderous post of me on TBP. Sorry. Oh jeez, I forgot that was you. For the record, it isn't "slanderous" to link to someone's comment on a forum, which is what I did. But whatever, block me then. I'm not going to tiptoe around and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:28 PM
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Why would a feminist care about non-feminine problems, except where they intersect with feminism? Why wouldn't they? I don't understand this question. It's possible to care about multiple things. Being an animal rights activist doesn't mean you don't give a shit about humans. Advocating against child abuse doesn't mean you don't care about abused adults. Well, nothing at the moment. I think it needs to do more. Then it doesn't seem like humanism is much better than feminism in that regard. I nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:09 PM
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Lol uncultured? Do you realize how many great writers drank? How many great artists and musicians did drugs? I'm not saying your average partygoer is going to be the next Hemingway, but it's a bit silly to say anyone who indulges in substances is uncultured.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:02 PM
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I'm a feminist and I agree with you that race relations are a much bigger problem in America than gender relations. I don't really understand why you think being a feminist means you care about women's issues at the exclusion of all others. I'm also curious what, specifically, the "humanist" movement is doing to address police brutality and racism. Also, if you think manspreading is getting more attention or is considered worse than police brutality, I'd say you've been spending too much time in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 03:53 PM
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Lol, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 02:53 AM
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Your ignoring probability here. The probability of a woman taking stupid risks is much higher because she has a lot of back ups Then why do more men die of drug overdoses, car accidents and general reckless behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 08:38 PM
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And she "brought" him two kids. Like when a child brings home a kitten and asks if they can keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 04:20 PM
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I'm pretty sure ODing in a hot tub is the consequence...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:46 PM
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One time my friends and I got wasted and stole some shopping carts from a nearby Walmart and took turns sitting in them and pushing them into each other at full speed in an activity we called "shopping cart jousting." That was a pretty wild night. My friend broke his glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:44 PM
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Because from a red pill perspective, breaking up with bad boys/jerks to date nice guys almost never happens What? I thought dating bad boys in your youth and settling down with a nice guy beta was like, the definition of AFBB. The only rare exceptions of a breakup might be say, the jerk is a wifebeater who's making minimum wage, while the nice guy is the manager of a company making close to 6-figures or more. Lol. But if both men are in a relatively close income/social status bracket, the woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:36 PM
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I agree. It's a mortal sin around these parts tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:34 PM
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-I love to talk about sex Stopped reading here. Well, it was almost the end of the comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:32 PM
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The worst thing about winter is that you get all bundled up for the cold weather outside but then when you get inside wherever you're going the heater is on and it's hot and you're wearing all these clothes and you can only take so many of them off. I'm getting angry and uncomfortable just thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:30 PM
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Or in my case, I broke up with a bad boy/jerk and then started dating a nice guy, and it's "You're an evil manipulative whore and your boyfriend is a cuck!" Can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 03:13 PM
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They also don't pay a living wage or let most employees work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 12:58 PM
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Everything I'm about to say is my personal perspective but it's not supported by science Bruh, I don't think you need to keep saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:55 AM
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had a bunch of brothers growing up ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:50 AM
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Wow, are you a professional quote maker?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:57 AM
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How are things affected if he loves her but pulls out? Or if he wears a condom? Or if she masturbates? Or if he cums in her but she doesn't orgasm? Or if she cums from cunnilingus/fingering? Or if he cums in her mouth? Edit: HOLY SHIT. If I have lots of sex with a guy who loves me but I never orgasm from it, will it reverse the aging process???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:48 AM
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YES. You are my people. I call shoes feet prisons. And I literally own one pair of pants. Skirts, dresses and shorts every day. If I lived somewhere with a real winter where you actually have to wear layers for months at a time I honestly think I would kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 02:30 AM
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Lol yeah, I never took it as an insult, it's just like, "Heheh, wrong!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 12:00 AM
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Damn them. What will they think of next?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 11:15 PM
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This is similar to my experience. I have an N count of 4, three of which were long-term relationships. But for some reason people think I'm slutty and always have, even when I was still a virgin. I think it's a combination of things: -I have big boobs -When I was younger I wore pretty revealing clothes. Not because I wanted male attention, but because I hate clothes and want as few of them on me as possible. They're hot and constricting and uncomfortable! My default outfit in college was a tankt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 11:11 PM
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You're right. I must have just imagined all the meth!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:25 PM
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Ditto :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:24 PM
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Maybe so. I've admittedly never been involved in a situation like that, so the dynamics could be different than what I'm observing from the outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:33 PM
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Did you know that incredibly poor all white areas still have low crime? That's because incredibly poor all white areas tend to be rural, and thus much less heavily policed. As a person who grew up in a poor, rural white community, I assure you there was plenty of crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 05:06 PM
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The first is the concern regarding someone's n-count. I'm kinda guessing that how someone achieved a high n-count is less the issue than that they have a high n-count to begin with Right, agreed. But what I'm saying is that a girl who has a ton of casual sex with the same rotation of 2 or 3 guys is going to have a lower n count than a girl who has a lot of ONS. They might have casual sex as frequently, but one will have a much higher N. but I can understand how the "but you jumped into bed with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:43 PM
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Wealth and status increases RMV. Which isn't the same as sexual attraction. SMV and RMV are separate terms for a reason. Women with more money tend to be more beautiful than women without, they can spend more on their beauty, so it does affect SMV also. Well, yeah. But it's her beauty you're attracted to, not her wealth. If two women achieved the same look, but one did it with high-end makeup and clothes and one did it with drugstore makeup and thrift store clothes, you wouldn't be more sexually…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:42 PM
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My experience aligns with yours for the most part. If you are willing to grant sexual access freely with no concern for commitment, does it really matter if the person to whom you are granting access is a stranger or an acquaintance? That's a matter of opinion, I guess. To me, a person who goes home with a different stranger every weekend has different motives than a person who has a steady FWB over a period of time, even though they're both casual. My boyfriend falls into the latter camp and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:23 PM
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He might have been one, then. The "pee out of the vagina" thing really set off my BS-meter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:35 PM
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Ditto.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:24 AM
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Only once, on OKCupid (of course.) Dude who was much older than me sent me a long message about how men my age don't know how to treat a lady, and how he was an older gentleman who was ready to settle down with that Special Someone and treat her like a princess, how he wasn't like those douchey party boys I met at school, blah blah. Then, at the end, as only a true gentleman would, he casually mentioned that he loves anal sex and that I would need to too if we were going to date. I wrote back th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 03:05 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:54 PM
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Totally wrong. If I'm wealthy, I'm more attracted to a woman that's also wealthy because she likely has higher standards, comes from a better family, is a better woman, higher quality genetics, etc. You are attracted to these things? A woman's wealth, standards, morals and family give you a boner? Or do they make her a more suitable partner from a pragmatic standpoint? Because as I'm sure /u/LewisCross would be happy to explain, these are not the same thing. Higher quality genetics I'll give you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:39 PM
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That's what it means, but it could take many forms, from hooking up with a friend to going home with a stranger from a club to being part of a BDSM scene. All casual sex, but very different contexts. I think Bigger D's point (which I agree with) is that people here conflate casual sex with a string of ONS's with strangers, and that's not the form most casual sex takes. A person could have tons of casual sex but a low partner count, if they are hooking up with the same couple of people repeatedly…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:25 PM
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I actually agree with you that blues are pretty inconsistent on this point. (Then again, blues don't really have a unifying theory like reds do, so it makes sense that not all of us would agree on something like this.) Personally, based on my own experience and observations, I'd say that most women do have casual sex in their youth. I don't think they prefer it, and I don't think most are having tons of it with different guys. Most casual sex takes place in FWB arrangements or hooking up with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:22 PM
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Status doesn't change how attractive someone is? Wearing nice clothes and accessories doesn't change status? According to RP, no, men are not attracted to status. Men only care about women's clothes insomuch as those clothes accentuate her feminine features (breasts, hip-to-waist ratio etc.) Men are not going to be more attracted to a woman because her clothes indicate status and wealth. At this point I'm not even playing devil's advocate to make a RP argument, this is just obvious. Never though…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 11:02 PM
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My most recent ex wore a fedora sometimes and it was actually quite cute. He was also a competitive swing/blues dancer and generally old-fashioned guy so it sort of fit his whole aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 10:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure it requires a degree or military experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 10:07 PM
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You just said it was easy!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 10:01 PM
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Yes, but the context in which it was originally brought up was masculine jobs that are dangerous/stressful. Link
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 09:56 PM
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Lol I thought the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 09:05 PM
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#KillAllMenWhoCook
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:18 PM
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And to "stand out"... from all the other women wearing Uggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:17 PM
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lol, I figured that wasn't the actual meaning, just thought it was funny combined with your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:02 PM
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Because women just aren't interested in anything but getting that good ol' dick. Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:46 PM
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-Michael Scott
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:44 PM
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A woman saying something interesting? Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:36 PM
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Shoes and recipes, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:21 PM
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I don't think I've ever had an actual conversation about beauty or fashion that lasted more than two sentences in my whole entire life. That's what I was thinking. Aside from basic things like "I like your outfit" I wouldn't even know what to say in a conversation on these topics, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 07:02 PM
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Im sorry my harsh language upsets you but that just how guys talk. hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:53 PM
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So you literally don't think women cook for any other reason than to get men? Why do men cook? the woman that doesn't know how to cook shouldn't have problems finding a man to cook for her and/or provide food. Exactly, so why would she learn to cook?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:42 PM
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and wouldn't bother cooking for men either. Do you understand that women cook because they need to eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:38 PM
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Women only talk about things related to men, except when they don't, in which case the things they talk about are stupid. Makes sense to me! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:16 PM
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RIP
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:13 PM
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One of these things is not like the others...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 06:03 PM
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Ooh I want to play! 1: My coworker about a concert we're both going to later this month and possibly carpooling to said concert. 2: My other coworker, giving her advice on house training her new puppy. 3: My mom, about my uncle's health. 4: A friend/former colleague who's applying to grad school asking me if I would write a reference letter for her. 5: My neighbor about crockpot recipes. Ok, you got me. We were plotting ways to ensnare men through the power of Pinterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:35 PM
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Many men can't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:12 PM
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her relationship history reveals she gets turned off easily The two breakup stories she told you involved a guy who saw another girl behind her back (cheating), and her moving away and long-distance not working for EITHER of them. Both valid reasons for breaking up that have nothing to do with being "turned off easily." You are really triggered by the concept of breakups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:42 PM
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I get that, which is why I said I wouldn't write off a bi guy completely if we were compatible enough. But these concerns are what would give me pause, not OP's "ew girly men" theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 02:48 AM
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Yes, precisely, you've got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 11:01 PM
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I am too -- 28. Could just be I'm wrong! But that would be unprecedented. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 11:00 PM
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My dad always says "It's good to have an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:58 PM
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Thank you! How are people not getting this???
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:57 PM
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Hey, thanks for doing the research! I'm in my twenties and have only heard it as a pejorative. I guess for people older than me that isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:25 PM
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I'm not sure you're getting the point of this thought experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:22 PM
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But you could flip out around: "Being a plate is worse because at least the BB got someone to commit to him."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:57 PM
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I agree. The relationship would prob be over either way, but another woman would definitely hurt more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:52 PM
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Yeah, I've actually heard this from male friends who dated bi women -- that fantasy and reality are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:53 PM
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Haha, yes. It's also generally not something people self-identify as, it's a label other people give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:24 PM
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Personally I'd be hesitant to date a guy who was into other dudes (though I wouldn't rule it out completely if I liked him enough), but not for the reasons you mentioned. The reason for me is because if a guy likes sex with guys, that's something that, sexually, I'll never be able to offer him. And since I'm not interested in non-monogamy (and thus wouldn't be okay with him sleeping with guys while he was with me), I would be denying him a huge part of his sexuality. It would be the same as dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 08:17 PM
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So you agree with him but not with me even though we're saying the same thing? It seems our only point of contention is whether or not the phrase "serial monogamy" has always had the connotation of "person using 'relationships' as a guise to cover up/rationalize sluttiness." I say it has, you say it hasn't, I doubt either of us has proof. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:01 PM
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I have made it a point to say things like "to me" and "I disagree" and "in my experience" to emphasize the fact that what I am saying is what I think and in no way objective truth. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Anyway, /u/archwinger agrees with me, so you should probably let him know he's wrong too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:49 PM
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That's why we add the word "serial". Tacking on the word "serial" is secret code for "slut". Exactly. This is my interpretation of the phrase too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:36 PM
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Yeah, I've never heard the phrase used to describe what you're talking about. Certainly if we take the phrase literally then what you're describing is definitely serial monogamy. But I've always understood it to have a different connotation. YMMV tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:30 PM
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I disagree that it's being "defined down" because in my experience that's what it's always meant. Like, I remember having conversations in high school about this girl who had a different "boyfriend" every couple of weeks, and we called her a serial monogamist. It was meant as a snide remark.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:27 PM
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The phrase "serial monogamy" did not originate with that blog post, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:24 PM
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To me what you're describing is the definition of serial monogamy. I always thought it was kind of a snide term. That's how I've always heard it used, anyway. Like, a girl who just sleeps with a ton of guys without commitment is a slut. A girl who has a few long-term (1 year+) relationships is...idk, normal? Or just regular monogamist? And a girl who goes from boyfriend to boyfriend quickly in a series of short-term relationships is a serial monogamist, which is sort of a special breed of slut. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:04 PM
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The bar for me is a once every couple months thing. I'm a homebody for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:56 PM
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I'm at home the vast majority of the time. Home is my favorite place to be. If I'm not at home, I'm usually hanging out with a small group of friends at someone's house/apartment, playing board games, watching movies or cooking a meal together. On the rare occasions I do go out, it's usually to do something nature-y like kayak or hike. I also like to just go downtown or to a different neighborhood and walk around. My city has a really nice boardwalk around a lake that's nice for evening walks. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:39 PM
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Guy A, no contest. For one thing, as I'm discussing in another thread right now, objectively "high SMV" guys by and large do nothing for me. I'm much more likely to get the "tingles" for an average guy. And also, no matter how attractive a guy is, if I know he's fucking other women that attraction is going to plummet. Just like RPers are viscerally disgusted by sluts and fatties, I'm viscerally disgusted by infidelity. I couldn't respect a man who cheated, and as such, I couldn't be attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:18 PM
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When I say "My people," I don't mean people I get along with -- I mean people who are similar to me in terms of background and experiences. For example, I don't think I could ever date someone from an UMC background, even though I have no problem getting along with people like that, because it's just so far removed from my experience I'm not sure I could ever "connect" to them on the level I'd need to for a lasting relationship. Similarly, I don't think I could ever date someone who was really g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:49 PM
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cost/risk analysis This isn't exactly what it is, though, which is why I included the "even if there was a guarantee..." caveat. It's not that I don't want to date him because I'm worried I wouldn't measure up and he'd leave (at least, it's not just that; that's certainly part of it.) I just don't think I could have genuine, lasting attraction for someone like that, because there's so little about them that I relate to. Maybe this is just hamstering on my part, idk. I have no problem admitting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:30 PM
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Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I have never been interested in dating a guy like you're describing, even if he "only has eyes for me" (which as Sublime said below, isn't a thing anyway.) Maybe if I was hotter and more charming and successful myself, I would be interested... but I'm not. And I just can't relate to people like that. I find them intimidating. I'm much more likely to be attracted and interested in someone who's more on my level in terms of looks and social status. Super gorgeous guys are f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:07 PM
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So What am I supposed to talk to with a girl if we lack common interests? I mean, yeah, you probably need some common ground in order to have something to talk about, especially at the beginning. I'm not saying you shouldn't have anything in common. Just that it's not the end of the world if you differ on certain things. How is it narcissistic to want someone who likes the same thigns that I like? It's not, necessarily. I think everyone wants to have a partner who has things in common with them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:40 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm not denying that he's successful or even that he's earned his success. Like I said, he's v talented. His songs just grate on me personally, which is a shame because I quite enjoy his voice. You're probably right about the demographic he appeals to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 02:43 PM
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So all it takes to be Chad is for a woman to be interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 02:12 PM
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Everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:34 AM
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I suppose you pointed out the flaw. An average HB5 with a 100IQ will have difficulty executing any strategy. Thanks for the thinly-veiled insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:21 AM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:11 AM
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I think you have things backwards. There is a whole stream of thought on TRP that guys should develop themselves in their 20s and then pair up with a significantly younger woman when they are both at their "peak". Right, but this thread is about advice for women. Cripes, I could put a profile on the internet posing as and intelligent, attractive (but obviously uneducated) 18 year old girl and by the end of the week I would have dates lined up for the rest of the year and a few marriage proposals…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:07 AM
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Astute comparison, I would say. I suppose that was my American solipsism showing ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:30 AM
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9/11 as a singular event was relatively small, but it changed everything. The pre- and post-9/11 worlds are COMPLETELY different, at least for Americans. I'm not saying that 9/11 was the worst thing that ever happened or anything. I just think of it as my generation's event that sort of defines our coming-of-age. It's the one thing everyone remembers where they were when it happened, like the Kennedy assassination was for the previous generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:08 AM
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What're kids from the 00' and 10's called? I've heard them called Generation Y, but then I've also heard that that's just another name for millennials, so I'm not sure. But those kids are in high school or younger. I don't remember hearing the word "millennial" till I was already in college (and I'm basically smack in the middle of the millennial generation - born in '88.) It's possible they haven't been given a name yet because their generation has yet to really be "defined."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:05 AM
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For some reason your username and the first word of your post got mixed up in my head and I thought, "People aren't getting married because of prostate problems? Huh?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:33 AM
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Not only that... I heard some of them drink vodka sours! Hard liquor! Can you imagine?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 12:30 AM
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This makes sense to me. It's the definition I prefer. Came of age around the start of the millennium=millennial. I think I'm still salty because a few weeks ago around 9/11 I kept seeing memes that said things like "For millennials 9/11 is just something in a history book." Like...no? Millennials are very much old enough to remember 9/11. Some of them were adults when it happened. It's sort of, you know, the defining event of our generation. And the other day one of my coworkers said something l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:57 PM
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Aw, boo. I love T-Swift. I get why she's not everybody's thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:40 PM
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Yeah, I'm really glad I found someone before Tinder really took off. It seems like our generation has such a superficial view of what love is. We want someone who shares our hobbies, tastes and interests. We won't date someone who doesn't like the same music or movies that we do. It's narcissistic in a way -- we love someone for the things they have in common with ourselves. I found that I was much more successful when I stopped looking for common interests in a partner and focused on common val…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:39 PM
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Wow we're almost the exact same proportions. You sound more fit than me tho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:20 PM
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We also need to define what we mean by "millennial." I've heard it used to describe everyone from people in their early forties to kids currently in high school. Generations don't last that long, and those two groups of people have very little in common with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:09 PM
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Yeah, no one outside of high school would consider three weeks a "relationship" of any type. When I hear "short term relationship" I think of that as six months to a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 08:04 PM
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Haha, true. He's singing those corny songs all the way to the bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:02 PM
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Ugh yes. Bruno Mars is such a waste. He's got a beautiful voice, and judging by his Super Bowl performance he's a pretty good live entertainer. But his songs are soooo corny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:58 PM
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It's just funny. I see this advice a lot from red pillers: that a young, uneducated, inexperienced girl's best bet is to find an older, educated and established man and "lock him down," as if it's just that simple. And yet I've never been given an answer as to how this girl is supposed to find this man, let alone convince him to commit to her (a tall order, considering most men of this calibre marry educated women close to their own age.) It's exactly the sort of vague, non-actionable advice tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:26 PM
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I'm just saying, "find a good guy" isn't really a strategy, it's an outcome. The strategy is the how. If someone asked me "What's the best strategy for making a lot of money in my twenties" and I told them "Find a good job," that would be pretty empty advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:08 PM
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Casual stranger sex is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:40 PM
1

Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:26 PM
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Exactly. I'm 28 and not married yet, but I was "paired off" by 24 (and truth be told, we were friends for two years before we got together, and part of me always knew that he was The One, corny as that sounds.) I totally agree with you that finding your person early and sticking with them is the way to go. Experiencing young adulthood with a partner you can have fun with while building a life together is ideal IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 03:38 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:57 PM
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"Whinging" is how it's spelled in British English, and I believe that user is in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:56 PM
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Eschew college, lock down a guy between 27 and 35 who has a career and some assets built up You skipped ahead several steps here. Where is she going to meet this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:02 PM
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I'm a 5 and I have never considered surgery. 5 is by definition just normal-looking. Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:00 PM
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Yeah I'm kind of mindblown how many people are suggesting plastic surgery for an average-looking woman :/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:06 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:59 PM
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Yeah, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 07:18 PM
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This is my experience too. Wonder if this goes back to both of us having older brothers? Maybe it's just natural for us to fall into that "little sister" role.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 05:28 PM
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Could this not describe practically every couple who has ever broken up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 04:49 PM
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Or maybe you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:37 PM
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Okay, well I'm perfectly happy with the "low-quality" dick I have at home, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:31 PM
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...what? I genuinely can't make sense of this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:08 PM
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He's MGTOW. Exactly. And no one cares. No one is "upset" about it. You don't know that for sure. True, but knowing the guy for 10 years, I would honestly be shocked if he were. Dude didn't even have internet at his house or a smartphone until a few years ago. Luckily, this is not one of the requirements to be considered MGTOW. Those are just the most vocal ones you see on the Internet. That's exactly my point. It's the vocal minority that gets on people's nerves. No one cares about dudes who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:05 PM
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I've talked about this before a couple of times when MGTOW has come up, but let me tell you about my friend Tom. Tom is my friend from college. He's a "freelance writer" and does some promo work for bands, but really he inherited a lot of money and a house so he's kind of set for life. Tom is 30. I have known him for 10 years. I have never known him to have a girlfriend. It's just not something he does. I have seen him take girls home from bars. I have at least two friends who have slept with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 04:39 AM
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The logic I usually see is that a man cheating isn't being disloyal because he isn't planning to actually leave the woman. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 08:09 PM
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No, sounds exhausting. I've got perfectly good dick at home, why spend time seeking out another one? Then I've got to clear up time in my schedule to see Chad...fuck that, too much work. Oh and also, I love my boyfriend, or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 05:30 PM
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Nah don't worry, I'm corny as shit. But I won't lie, it's partly because he has a funny name that sounds even funnier with "-sexual" added to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 12:13 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 10:31 PM
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THANK YOU. Oh my God. Zac Efron is the gayest gay who ever gayed. I've been having an ongoing argument about this in my personal life for several weeks so this is a touchy subject for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 10:08 PM
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Lmao we both know that's their nice way of saying "accident" :P Hahaha yeah. My mom always says "You weren't an accident, you were a surprise!" It is funny you talk about birth order because my brothers did move away (like, out of the country) for a number of years before my younger sisters were born so it seems I was the youngest for a little while, then an only child for a few years, and then like the oldest to my little sisters, haha. Oh wow, big family! Mine is just my brothers and me. I alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 09:59 PM
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Ditto. I always say I'm not heterosexual, I'm [boyfriend's name]-sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 05:39 PM
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I would gladly join the masturbation march.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 05:10 PM
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Have you considered that the women fucking guys right off the bat are not the same ones who prefer to wait? This whole thing where she hops on some dicks immediately and makes others wait just doesn't happen that much in my experience. The girls making guys wait make them all wait because they're just not into casual sex. The girls who are into casual sex will have it with whoever they want to have it with, and I know tons of couples who started out as casual fuck buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:54 PM
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As BiggerD mentioned, most women aren't having casual sex in an ONS scenario. They're usually hooking up with friends or people in their social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:17 PM
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Hmm. So "get to know" means knowing from work, from school, from friends? That's quite different from what other people are saying which is that he has to be "invested in her somewhat" before she'll agree to sex. Speaking for myself, the one time I had casual sex it was with a friend from work. We had hung out enough, interacted enough and were good enough friends that I trusted him not to hurt me or go full-on asshole (which he didn't.) That said, while it was a pleasant enough sexual experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:15 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:00 PM
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I know more men who have been hit by their wives/girlfriends than the reverse. But I know more women who have been seriously injured by their husbands/boyfriends than the reverse. And it's easily verifiable that more women are killed by their partners than men. So I'd say women are violent more often, but the men who are violent take it a lot further. And I think this mostly comes down to socialization. Boys are taught from a young age that you don't hit girls. Girls are taught "don't hit" in ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 03:46 PM
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I read an interesting article recently by an overweight trans man. He said that when he was still living/presenting as a woman, his weight was brought up at every doctor's appointment and frequently by concerned friends and family. After transition, the problem went away, despite not losing any weight. His weight was no longer a concern for people, even his doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 03:37 PM
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This thread is about rough/aggressive sex tho, not necessarily dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 03:21 PM
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Anthony Weiner. Honestly I'm having trouble thinking of a conservative sex scandal that was a huge controversy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 03:15 PM
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Lol, good point. Or that porn gives them unrealistic expectations about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 03:11 PM
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Exactly. This is something a lot of people here don't seem to get. Casual sex does not have to = stranger sex, and in fact it usually doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 02:45 PM
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Sure, but I'm saying that (for most people) there are limits to that. A scratch on the back or a slap on the butt? Sure, probably fine. A punch to the cervix or a knee to the balls? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 02:41 PM
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My youngest older brother is 8 years older and thank god he came back to live with the folks in his 20s. The one time I had a party, my senior year, while the parents were out of the house for NYE, he was there the next morning to make my dad begrudgingly laugh by reminding him just how many times he himself had been caught committing worse crimes against the household. Turns out big bros really turn up for you when you need them to :) Ha, that's awesome. My youngest brother is 7 years older tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 02:38 PM
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Wow, yes, you get it. I agree with every word of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 05:21 AM
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True, I can agree with that. I'm mostly talking about middle-class people with white collar jobs who whine about "wage slavery." Give me a break. I absolutely agree that the exploitation of and lack of upward mobility for the lower class is something akin to slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 05:03 AM
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Oh, for sure. But I think that's something that comes with emotional maturity, and unfortunately I think those who find themselves in the friendzone tend to be on the younger, more inexperienced side. In high school I was "friendzoned" by a boy I was in (the goofy teenage version of) love with. I genuinely don't think he knew of my feelings for him, he just thought I was his friend (he literally called me "buddy," ugh!) and meanwhile he had a huge crush on my best friend, who didn't like him. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:44 AM
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Troof.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:35 AM
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Specifically, does getting to know a guy make you more horny for him? Yes. And I also enjoy the buildup of sexual tension that comes from the flirting period. I like to let that tension build for a while, and I think it makes sex (and the relationship, if one develops) better once it does happen. Secondly, is the decision to put off sex because you find a guy interesting conscious or unconscious? Like do you actually feel like having sex initially, or is the desire not there at all? Unconscious.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 04:24 AM
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Ah OK, we agree then. I misunderstood what you were saying before. It might not be an official TRP opinion, but it's one I see frequently here (granted, only from a couple of specific posters who really like to cling to that narrative. I imagine the majority agree with you.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 01:06 AM
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I've never really thought about the connection between the "Friendzone" and the differences in male and female friendships, but that makes a lot of sense. Personally I think most of these situations are inadvertent. I can think of two women I know who have friendzoned guys knowingly/intentionally. One is my cousin and one is my college roommate. Both of them have "orbiters" who do favors for them, buy them dinner and birthday presents, listen to them vent about their problems etc. All those ster…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 01:03 AM
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Who is "she"? I'm talking about my own experiences as a woman. There are some things that are going to be painful (in a bad way) no matter how aroused I am. This is true for all women, or at least all but the very few who are extreme masochists. The terpism that you can do anything you want to a woman and she'll love it as long as she's horny enough is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:54 PM
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Lol. Your second paragraph was me. My mom told me recently that she worried about me growing up because I wasn't rebellious. I never snuck out of the house, stole booze and cigarettes, lied about where I was or any of that stuff that, in her words, "normal kids do." The irony is that my lack of rebellion was borne out of the guilt I felt from knowing that, inside, I'm pretty much the opposite of the daughter my parents wanted. So I overcompensated by being the most straight-laced kid ever, so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:42 PM
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I assure you that I know which physical sensations I do and don't enjoy, but thanks for your help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 11:09 PM
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Very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:56 PM
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Yeah, I get what you're saying and I mostly agree. I don't think I could ever derive pleasure from something I actively hated just because my partner really likes it, but I can go from being neutral or ambivalent about something to actually desiring it because I know he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:44 PM
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I'm not the person you asked but maybe I can give some insight? One of the best (if not THE best) part of sex for me is knowing how much I'm pleasing my partner. So sometimes I'll do things that I know he likes, even if it's not my favorite thing in the world, because seeing him go crazy for it is an intensely enjoyable experience for me. To give a specific example, I'm not crazy about being on top. It's by far my least favorite position, and it's never something I would go out of my way to do f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:34 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:27 PM
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Yeah...not for me. I'm really tender-headed. Like, I sometimes have to fight back tears at the hairdresser. The only time it feels good is if it's just a slight amount of pressure, and only if he's pulling from the middle of my head. If he grabs any of the hair around the sides of my head, game over. That shit hurts, and not in a fun way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 10:17 PM
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I challenge you to find a redpiller on this forum who thinks penetration is not an act of dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:38 PM
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😂 PPD ladies gettin' sassy on a Friday afternoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:20 PM
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Because penis, I'm guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 09:19 PM
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Hairpulling is probably the roughest thing I like, but even then I only like a gentle tug here and there, not actual pulling. But I'm like you -- nothing about being held down or manhandled appeals to me. Any time a guy tried that I found it scary, not exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:45 PM
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I didn't say "unable to experience pain". You said: If she's sufficiently turned on, it won't be painful. Which is idiotic. Some things hurt, no matter how horny you are. You're just trying to make this into a "But she'd like Brad Pitt ram her cervix!" thing. the fact that YOU don't like hairpulling or jackhammering doesn't mean that NO women like hairpulling or jackhammering. Did I say that it did? I'm using myself as an example. And Jesus. It's not "grab a handful of hair and pull as hard as y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:30 PM
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Any guy who slapped me or spit in my face would get his dick ripped off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:28 PM
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This is what confuses me. TRPs say they don't want "starfish sex" and that they want to feel desired/like the woman can't control herself... but they don't like any display of sexual aggression/desire from a woman. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:23 PM
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No, there are certain types of hairpulling that are ALWAYS going to hurt me (my boyfriend knows which areas are OK to pull and which are not.) And jackhammering is painful more often than not for me; has nothing to do with how turned on I am. The idea that a certain amount of attraction/arousal makes her unable to experience pain during sex is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:20 PM
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Yeah me too. Most of the "rough" stuff I like (like hair pulling, light biting etc.) to me is more passionate than rough, and it's given and taken equally IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:17 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:14 PM
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I've tried to make this argument so many times. It always eventually boils down to "But he's penetrating her, so HE'S the dominant/rough one!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:12 PM
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As in the antagonist from Back to the Future? I think that's where they got it, yeah. I have no idea why they started calling me that though, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 06:48 PM
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I had this quote painted on my classroom wall when I was a high school teacher. Good words to live by.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:38 PM
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Agreed, I really think this should be its own post. It's an interesting angle I haven't seen brought up before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:34 PM
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Hahaha. They and my dad would also call me "Birdlegs" because my legs were so long and scrawny. I always thought it was especially funny that they called me Fatty but also made fun of me for being skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 04:57 PM
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Haha. I have two older brothers, and they're 9 and 7 years older than me so for a long time my parents just had two boys in the house. My mom said she used to think they were actually going to kill each other, and would call my grandma (who raised two boys and two girls) in hysterics asking what to do. My grandma's response was similar to your ex's. Since I was so much younger, they didn't really "fight" with me. But I have no doubt that if I'd been closer to their age, they would have roughhous…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 04:54 PM
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My brothers' nickname for me is literally "Fatty." Also "Biff."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 04:45 PM
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FWIW, I was raised very religious and it was always like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. I just didn't believe, no matter what I did or how hard I (and my parents) tried, and I felt awful about it. And, like you, I always sort of envied the comfort and peace that other people derived from their faith. I wanted that so badly. But even if you want it and you're raised religious, there's no guarantee you'll ever have it. For whatever reason, I was just never able to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 10:09 PM
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Yeah, I've heard that. I mean, if it affected my hormones enough to make my libido higher then it makes sense that it could affect my natural lubrication too. Either way, A+, lifting is awesome and I'm ashamed it took me so long to start doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:28 PM
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That would appear to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:18 PM
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Are you male or female? Red or blue? Female, blue. What kind of lifting do you do? (Bodyweight and gymnastics count for this thread.) Started out with bodyweight, just recently started using machines (I know, I know) and free weights. How strong are you? (You can use Symmetric Strength if you want to hide exact numbers or compare yourself to others.) Not very, but I'm getting there :) What's your body fat? 20-21% How has lifting affected your romantic and/or sex life? Has this changed over the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:17 PM
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lol wow. There's literally nothing there about OP being a regular BP poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:03 PM
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Socialphobia is overcome by changing your attitude and mindset. Which therapy can help you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 08:00 PM
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Oh man, I had the biggest crush on him when he was on Lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:59 PM
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Oh OK, the post was removed before I ever saw it so I didn't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:53 PM
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Be that as it may, it's not a direct comparison. The reason people take issue with people calling themselves "incel" is precisely because of the involuntary part. Someone can be poor whether it's voluntary or not. It doesn't make them not poor just because they're choosing to be in that situation. The same cannot be said for "incel"; the involuntary part is literally built into the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:34 PM
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Except that nothing about the word "poor" implies that it's involuntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:19 PM
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That's true, we could read one of the many other incel threads instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:18 PM
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Do you think maybe they didn't realize you have a "long and storied BP history?" I'm at BP almost daily too and I'd be hard pressed to name 5 regular posters there. A lot of people just read posts/comments and don't pay attention to usernames.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 06:08 PM
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Individuality implies choice that you consciously make. No it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:27 PM
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I don't think you know what individuality means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:18 PM
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No one said that. Uh individuality cannot be applied to sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:13 PM
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No, but they're proof that not all humans have the same sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:06 PM
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This is why there are no gay people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:02 PM
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My best friend looks exactly like Ellie Kemper. Unsurprisingly, every guy she's ever met has a crush on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:00 PM
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I concur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 03:48 AM
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Plenty of things are pointless to study. Like, why bother studying the different types of arrow heads in history? It would give me almost nothing but useless knowledge. If you're interested in Native American history, for example, then learning about various arrowheads could probably give you a lot of insight into how they fought and hunted. Do you think studying history is pointless? It's actually funny that you mention that specific example, because I just got off the phone with my mom who spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:11 AM
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I can't help but suspect there's an ulterior motive to this line of inquiry. No, I don't think it's pointless at all. Religion has a huge impact on culture, art, literature, etc. It's a very worthwhile thing to spend time studying. (And for that matter, I don't think learning or studying anything is ever "pointless.") It's just not, at this point in my life, something I personally have spent time studying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 01:26 AM
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Thanks for explaining, that's interesting. I wasn't trying to start a debate, just to satisfy my curiosity :) I can relate to that feeling that God is watching you all the time. I experienced that too with my Christian upbringing; it's hard to shake even after you stop believing. In Protestant churches they sometimes sing a song that goes "There's an all-seeing eye watching you..." It's short and catchy and usually one of the first church songs you learn as a kid. Creepy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:47 AM
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Not really. I might someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:43 AM
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Nothing. I don't have an aversion to it or anything. It's just not something I've studied very much at this juncture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 12:24 AM
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My faith had long been broken by the time I came across this, but yeah, I can definitely see how that could do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 10:56 PM
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Is karma a concept in the Jewish faith? I didn't know that. I've admittedly not studied Judaism much, and I always wondered what Jews believe about the afterlife and heaven/hell. It's my understanding that it's quite different from what Christians believe, because it's less about "salvation." Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 10:55 PM
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Yeah, this is what I learned in my Old Testament class in college. The Hebrews were to be set apart as a "peculiar" people and that was the purpose of their laws and customs (dietary restrictions, circumcision etc.) They made them distinct from the other religious/ethnic groups in the region and gave them their own cultural identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:34 PM
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lol, I wouldn't think so, but I've never been brave enough to start an argument with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:43 PM
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I think 10 years is a pretty negligible age difference, and will matter less and less the older you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:35 PM
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Put simply, they're Christians who still observe Jewish law and customs. Whereas most Christians believe that the Old Testament was "fulfilled" by the arrival of the Messiah, Messianic Jews believe we are still bound by Jewish law (even though believing such a thing goes against a lot of what Jesus said in the New Testament.) Many of them have a hard-on for Israel and think that everything bad that happens in the world is God smiting humanity for turning its back on His "chosen people."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:08 PM
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Me too. I never really had an epiphany moment where I realized I didn't believe. I just...never did. But as I mentioned in my other comment, for a long time I was still worried because I was raised in such a religious household, and even though I didn't believe, I couldn't help but think But what if it is true? Am I going to go to hell? And I couldn't understand why a just God would punish someone eternally for something they essentially had no control over. I didn't choose not to believe, and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:29 PM
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Hahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:19 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:10 PM
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Oh jeez, my ex's family were Messianic Jews. They're their own brand of crazy, for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:04 PM
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...ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:26 PM
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You'll be sure to avoid... all food?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:25 PM
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I see. well for future reference, any food, Mexican or not, that can be served in a fast food setting can also be made at home!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:24 PM
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I accept that, but what am I supposed to do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:18 PM
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This is basically what I think too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:59 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:48 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:44 PM
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Burritos don't have to be fast food...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:42 PM
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Lol yeah, I called that like two days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:41 PM
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Woman. Agnostic. I was raised fundamentalist Church of Christ, a very conservative, rapidly-shrinking quasi-cult. I officially left the church at 19, but truth be told I never really believed. As young as 9 or 10 I realized it just didn't make sense to me and I didn't believe any of it, but I still went through the motions because I was afraid of what the consequences might be if it were true. It was fear-based obedience, not faith-based. I did go to a university affiliated with the Church of Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:37 PM
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Who is calling frugal women ratchet hoes? What does the song "Redneck Woman" have to do with frugality??? I'm v confused by this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:33 PM
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unless it was real funny, sending her a photo of your face for her contacts straight up is going to come off as quite intense. Yeah I agree, the only way this would work IMO is if the picture was hilarious in some way, in which case I actually think it's pretty clever. But if you're just sending her a selfie, that seems kind of...narcissistic or something? Kind of weird, at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:37 PM
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I think anything from a couple hours after she gives it to you to the next weekend (for example, if she gives you her number on Wednesday, text her by Friday night) is good. Any longer than that and I would probably think the guy didn't like me that much and I was only a "backup" option for him. Just don't do the thing where she gives you her number and you immediately call her to make sure she's not lying. That's just rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:36 PM
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Yeah exactly. This is a really silly comparison for a lot of reasons. $80 is really cheap for a pair of shoes, and bras have to be replaced way more frequently. Plus...women buy shoes too? It's not like the cost of shoes is something only men deal with, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:00 PM
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Oscar Wilde.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:53 PM
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Right. It's object vs. agent. I find that a lot of people in these discussions don't have a good grasp of what "object" means in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:16 PM
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Hahaha. That's true!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:58 PM
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Makeup I agree, but accessories and clothes??? You can't buy a good pair of jeans for $40, much less an entire outfit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:06 PM
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Oh my God, I get annoyed by this too. I recently treated my boyfriend to dinner and literally handed my card to the waiter, and when he brought it back he handed it to my boyfriend and said "Thank you sir." Grr!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 05:06 AM
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Hahaha that's awesome. Black women do age amazingly well. I recently ran into a black friend from high school and her mom, who's close to 60. Her mom looked like she could be her older sister. She (the mom) was also one of my teachers in middle school and I swear she hasn't aged since then. My mom looks good for her age because she works out and takes good care of her skin, but you can still tell she's in her fifties. The aforementioned friend's mom doesn't look a day over 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:59 AM
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Omg. I have a neighbor I talk to every day. For the past year I assumed she was around my mom's age (mid-fifties.) Found out the other day she's 73! My mind was blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:54 AM
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I think he was being a little facetious. Shiner isn't really "beer snob" beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:47 AM
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Yeah it definitely does. Until recently I worked in marketing and it was definitely an expectation in that industry, especially when meeting with clients, etc. I recently started working in educational publishing and it's NBD (at least in my office.) Most days I just wear mascara and maybe a little blush. I also teach night classes at a college and, like you said, in that environment you stand out more if you do wear a lot of makeup. I did teach high school in my early twenties and it's the only…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:44 AM
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Yeah, I definitely think it's an expectation in the professional world most of the time. Funny that your source specifically mentions restaurants. I experimented with makeup/no makeup when I was a waitress and I definitely got bigger tips and better treatment when I wore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:39 AM
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Yeah I don't recommend the no shampoo thing lol. I experimented with it for about three months and just...no. As for no makeup, I think it really just depends. Some people can really pull it off. I myself have pretty bad skin, plus blonde eyelashes/brows so I look really washed out and tired if I don't wear a little. Someone without those problems would probably be fine though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:05 AM
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I don't really understand what you're saying here tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 03:02 AM
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I've been called creepy, back when I was really socially anxious and couldn't make eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:52 AM
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Fuck yeah, Texas forever! Prickly Pear is my fav.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:44 AM
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I have to agree with this. When I first started dating my boyfriend I was going through a gross crunchy hippy phase where I wasn't wearing makeup, shampooing my hair or shaving. He still liked me. Granted, different things attract different men. Not every guy is going to be into a girl who doesn't shave or wear makeup. At that point it becomes a cost/benefit analysis; if you're not attracting the number or the type of guys you want, you might have to alter your grooming habits. It's up to you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:29 AM
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Yeah, I'm dubious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:55 AM
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I forgot sizing conventions were different in the UK/Aus and almost had an aneurysm trying to imagine how a person could be an 8G. Hahaha. I'm only a little smaller than you (US 30G.) I feel your pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 01:54 AM
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Maybe, but I also can't help but think it depends where your friend is meeting these women as well. As I wager where you hang out/mingle socially plays out a huge part here. As it would more determine the sort of women you run into. And I can't help but think your friend hangs out in a social circle that draws in such women. True, that could also be a factor. A lot of them he meets on OKCupid, but he does have a habit of dating some really trashy chicks and I'm not sure where he finds those (may…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:33 AM
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I'm going to echo what others have said - there's a difference in being needy, and voicing your needs/expectations. I was needy at the start of my relationship. Have you seen that "overly obsessed girlfriend" meme? I was a slightly less psycho version of that. "But why are you hanging out with your friends instead of meeeee? I haven't seen you in two whole days!" "OMG you didn't send me a good night text, is it because you hate me?!?!" That's needy, and it's a bad look. Eventually my bf and I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:19 AM
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That hasn't been my experience. Only had one woman that was, most of the other ones wanted me to be dominate but not extremely so. Like I said - I'm just relaying the experience of my friend. But I also think you said somewhere that you're 6'6, which while very tall, I think is still within most women's "hot" range. 6'10 is a whole other realm of freakiness that is probably going to attract weirder women. (I should also probably note that my friend is chubby; it might be different if he were 6'1…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 11:34 PM
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Most women like being sexually dominated and have rough sex. Its far more common thing that you may think. I mean, I realize that, but I guess the ones that go for super tall guys are on the more extreme end? I'm just saying, this is what I hear from my friend who's almost 7 feet tall. Like it's really frustrating for him because these girls expect him to be really dominant and aggressive because of his size. she's like 5'4 which is hilarious Not surprised at all. For whatever reason a lot of ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 10:57 PM
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That same guy could very well be more attractive at 27, provided he kept up the same level of self-care and fitness. At 21 a lot of guys still have baby faces. 27 is still plenty young (if he started "looksmaxing" at 17 and took really good care of himself, he won't be showing signs of aging yet) but he'll have more maturity in his face, which is more attractive to most adult women than a babyfaced 21-year-old. He'll also most likely be more confident and carry himself better at 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:57 PM
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Seriously. They typically take better care of their bodies at 27 than 21 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:55 PM
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Who actually chooses "the sexiest man alive?" If it's not a panel of male magazine editors I will eat my hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:33 PM
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My guy BFF is 6'10. We were roommates for a while, and apartment hunting was difficult because we had to find one with high enough ceilings that he didn't risk a ceiling fan to the face while walking through the living room. His height gets him a lot of attention, but he says it attracts a certain type of woman. Apparently a lot of women who are into really big guys like him are also really into being dominated and roughed up, which he doesn't enjoy. He has a really sweet gf now though, and she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:26 PM
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Oh hi, OncleJulian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:48 PM
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I think everyone knows someone like this. It's weird that people are denying it's even possible. Yeah, "calories in, calories out" is what it boils down to -- but "calories out" happens a lot more quickly and easily for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:46 PM
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Just be careful. I was like this when I was younger, actively tried to gain weight and couldn't, etc. Then around 26 my metabolism hit a wall (heh) and I had to actually start watching my calories. If I still ate like I ate at 23 I'd be fat :(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:44 PM
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