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| 1 | If there's no way to actually date women who aren't attracted to you; aren't incels and looksmaxxers kinda... right? :|Nice to meet you! | /r/seduction | 13/06/26 12:14 AM |
| 1 | What are the biggest factors that stop you from cold approaching?No IOI's. Ever. | /r/seduction | 12/06/26 10:56 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Right. So without being attractive this whole thing is pointless. Seems like it’s just marketed to losers like me to make a quick buck. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 03:48 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?I think that’s basically correct. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 03:34 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Because if seduction is the art of getting women interested in you but it only works on women who are already interested in you, because of looks or money or whatever, then seduction is only for people who are already attractive you see? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 03:03 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Great post. This is basically what I think too. But doesn’t this basically prove the blackpill correct? Looks are the real attraction, and personality is the deal breaker? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:56 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?People aren’t a monolith. I never would think they would be. I don’t necessarily like every type of girl, in terms of personality. But I’m not going to say I don’t find them attractive. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:53 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Sure, you’re not wrong | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:45 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?I’m interested in learning. What would you describe as average results for a guy, living in a large city, say Chicago. Average job, salary. Living alone. I’d imagine the process can take years. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:44 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?I think you are correct and it’s a good analogy. But the problem is then the blackpill is correct? Without looks, seduction isn’t a thing? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:38 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Okay, fair. Then what are the factors that can overcome “being an asshole.” Because to me, looking from the outside, it’s looks. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:35 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?No I’m saying once you’re there, what you do matters. I’ve seen handsome guys blow it with amazing women (some they liked, others not so much) because they acted like fools. The question is “how do you get there?” I’ve never been in a position to even mess it up you see? Like those women my friends discard.. they won’t give me the same chance. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:33 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?What would be describe as “average results”? I’m an analytical and cerebral kinda guy. I like to learn and figure things out. You telling me that it works isn’t enough. That’s not a slight on you, that’s just what I’ve learned how to work. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:29 PM |
| 0 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?That’s fair. That’s true. But.. the question is, how do we improve the bait. Because I’m still convinced it’s mostly looks. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:27 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?I can see what you mean by counterproductive, but the problem to me is how to increase the odds. Game is fine (though I’m still not convinced it’s real), but looks still seem to be the first value. The question becomes “how ugly can you be and still pull?” And “is average good enough?” | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:19 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Sure, but couldn’t you say the same thing for looks as well? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:15 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?I’m going to Dm you later if that’s ok | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:15 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Fair enough, but it seems that the best way to level the odds is to increase your looks, which would make guys like Clavcular right. It would also at least in part prove the blackpill argument. Looks seem to be the first (arguably most important) factor in all of this. Now if a guy is average, neutral or invisible can learn game… now that would be interesting. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:14 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?I’m not saying seduction is a spell book. I’m asking how can you seduce when no one is already interested in you? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:11 PM |
| 0 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Sure. But then why are there women chasing “bad guys”. If the point of seduction is to improve one’s own mind and body, and have women chase you, then there’s no incentive to be good or kind. Just looksmax and run numbers. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:10 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?But aren’t those women already preselecting for looks. Plus they have s hundred guys chasing them. Luck and timing have to play a role here too. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:07 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Sure but doesn’t that just increase it from 99% to 90% rejection? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:06 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?I’m 37 bro, believe me, I know my looks are below average based on great experience. The problem is this… if seduction can only work on a few women (in my case, less than that lol) how can one improve the size of the pond in fishing in? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 02:05 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Hey man! You don’t know my drive! Haha. I’m not asking for 100% lol. That would be insane. Nor would I want to break up a relationship for example. Here’s my problem, if I may say…. If seduction can only act on existing interest, then by definition the incels and looksmaxxers are at least partly correct. Looks do determine a lot of game. Now a good looking guy can blow it with a bad personality and no one (not even Henry Cavill) has a 100% appeal to all women. But the point seems valid. Now, the… | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 01:59 PM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Ok, I can see that. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 12:43 PM |
| -5 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Right. Therefore it’s not real. It also means the incels and looksmaxxers are correct. Looks are the first and most important thing. | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 12:24 PM |
| 2 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?Right, so it is just a number game. You’re looking for one in 10, 1000, 1M or whatever. But if seduction okay works on certain people, how is it a learned skill? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 10:29 AM |
| 1 | So seduction isn’t real it’s a numbers game?That’s basically what I thought. It helps you when the right person comes along. So what happens if no one finds you attractive? | /r/seduction | 10/06/26 10:26 AM |
| 0 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?Relax. Just because you can't defend something doesn't mean you're wrong. I'll be posting an essay eventually. You're more than welcome to comment on that. | /r/seduction | 31/05/26 07:14 PM |
| 0 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?I'm going to start a new thread on this, because your not answering the basic question here: Why would anyone (man or woman) go from "ew" to "oh". | /r/seduction | 31/05/26 03:05 PM |
| 1 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?Turkey is where we go for plastic surgery. It'll cost about 100K for all the procedures for my face. It won't help my height (only 5'10) but it will rise my face card a little bit more. The recovery time is insane though, 6 months and the risk of facial paralysis is high. Latvia is where its at. I've never been but I heard its like a 3:1 ratio women to men and they're gorgeous. Right, therefore, they would want nothing to do with me right? Why would a good-looking woman want a germlin? I know th… | /r/seduction | 31/05/26 02:50 PM |
| 0 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?My brother in Christ. Let's not pretend we don't know the rules. We both know that women open the door for men they are interested in and shame those who they aren't. I think a lot of the "shaming" of men for appoarch women is actually just men not being able to read the signs. Unwanted advances are always uncomfortable. You and I, and people on this board, we understand that. | /r/seduction | 31/05/26 01:45 PM |
| 1 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?I’m very unattractive. The reality is if a woman isn’t interested in me, why would I approach? I did ask a few girls out in college. I got the message soon. | /r/seduction | 31/05/26 02:23 AM |
| 1 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?That's just it. I did change myself. I thought that was the point. But it wasn't good enough. So what now? 100K and a trip to Turkey? | /r/seduction | 30/05/26 04:35 PM |
| 0 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?It’s pretty bad. Most rating systems give me 3.5 / 10 | /r/seduction | 30/05/26 03:08 PM |
| 1 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?I've never approached any woman publicly. Some of which have been the ones to come on to me. There you go. So there must be something wrong with me. | /r/seduction | 30/05/26 09:47 AM |
| 1 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?Dude. I've seen it. I've literally seen people's brains melt when a beautiful person walks by. Guys and Girls. Both. The idea that she isn't interested means she doesn't see enough to warrant her attention. | /r/seduction | 30/05/26 12:10 AM |
| 1 | I did everything I was supposed to do as a man to improve my looks... I'm still ugly; was it all pointless?You have to talk to women to know if they're interested. If they were interested, they would show interest. "Making longing eye contact and smiling is for Hollywood movies." No, that's just want people do when they find the other person attractive. | /r/seduction | 29/05/26 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Is the majority of good girls in a relationship?Define relationship. | /r/seduction | 28/05/26 04:40 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?You want to look like him? Looksmaxxing has its limits, and there is no universal female gaze, so it's pointless. But the fact that he can get ANY action, let alone an abundance, based solely on looks, is a terrifying prospect. | /r/seduction | 30/03/26 09:05 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Why? He has women throwing themselves on him. Doesn’t sound like a loser to me. | /r/seduction | 30/03/26 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingIt’s not up to us to decide what our target market find attractive in us. Height, weight, face… you can find anything unattractive but it doesn’t matter. It’s up to the market. Women are throwing themselves and him and guys who look like him. And yes, they are over 25 😂 life’s unfair and then you die. The only good thing is that he can’t sustain a conversation, but as long as he’s pretty and they’re bored he will never be alone. | /r/seduction | 23/03/26 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingI agree, women have been held to an unattainable standard forever. Believe me, I've lived through the photoshopped 90s. Sorry about your friend, I'm sure she is very pretty. I have explored plastic surgery opinions. It's very risky and expensive, but I haven't ruled it out yet. | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingThere's some. But there is also a lot of seemingly random attraction. I've been asked out by 2 girls (my only two gfs ever). They were way out of my league, and it ended when they realized that. | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingSure, I'm not saying personally doesn't matter. Of course. What I'm saying is that the physical bar is rising so fast and hard that many guys will fail to clear it. We call that "looks inflation" (misogynists call it "hoeflation". Just reporting, not condoning.) So it's fine that you may choose "less attractive guys," but from the outside, it would appear you downgraded from 9.5 to 9.0 and called it settling. Many guys will never clear that bar. In the future, it may be even higher. It may be yo… | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingTo be fair to you. 20% seems to be a common threshold for the average woman. For whatever reason, women seem to be attracted to 2 out of every 10 guys (on average, some are higher and some are lower). So your 20% success rate is probably pretty normal tbh. I should also note (before Reddit jumps on me), the 20% doesn't mean the SAME 20% of guys. Just 20% of guys in general. | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingI wish your friend all the best. Do you think that is something she will overcome with time, or is it so baked into her psyche at this point that she will continue to reject others for it? I don't know your age, so I can't make a judgment on that. Seems to me that guys will accept many different types of bodies as attractive compared to women now. Clearly, there are exceptions (I know a white guy who only dates asians). But if the deck is already stacked against men, how are we going to be prese… | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingI totally agree. IF they are the same level of attractiveness. Clearing that every rising bar has been the new challenge. I generally think the Maxxers and Blackpillers are right here. You can play the game without paying the price (looks). | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingNone. You know why? Because looks do matter. At least to the initial relationship. Being ugly sucks. I don't want the incels to be right, but I'm starting to think they will be in the end (at least partly) | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingA ‘road guy’ once told me his attitude around women changed when a girl asked him ‘is your knife a virgin?’ Please tell me everything about what this means! | /r/seduction | 20/03/26 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingJudging before reading? Okay. | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingWell, that I agree with | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingIf don't think that's actually false. But what it means is scary af. It means we are heading to a sort of sexual feudism under a capitalist structure of society. One with a harem, basically. It means marriage as we know it is about to collapse in the west. Or women have to take a back seat in society again, that's also scary. | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingTrue, but models aren't there to "look good" they are there to make the clothes look good. In fairness, women don't have a lot of male models the way guys have VS or whatever. Not many male models crossover to the mainstream like actors, musicians, or athletes. | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingSo the incels were right? That's your conclusion. The blackpill is real. Too bad uggos, better luck next reincarnation? | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 10:09 PM |
| -1 | Looksmaxxing is either true or false. Either way, it's terrifyingMy bot? | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 10:03 PM |
| 2 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingDon't do deadlines. They can be counterproductive. Any woman who only likes you for your looks will leave you when you get older. Focus on your life first. | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 08:33 PM |
| 1 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingI’ve been going to the gym for years dude. Some results. Lost some weight, gained some muscle. And you know who cared? Exactly no one. I noticed. But women still wanted nothing to do with me. Gym makes me feel worse about myself, not better. Gym isn’t the cure all you think it is. | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 04:56 PM |
| 2 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingHaha. I wish. (If I’m allowed to blackpill myself). But the reason ig models are single is complex. It’s not just because of looks. Sometimes they are hung up on one person, sometimes they are busy with their work, sometimes they actually feel like no one is good enough for them because they have a big ego. And some just aren’t interested in dating and sex, people tend to forget that just because your hot don’t mean you want sex or even enjoy it. | /r/seduction | 19/03/26 09:44 AM |
| 1 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingI would agree that there is no objective reason. I’m currently doing some research and it does seem that the 80/20 rule is real but it is also random (meaning that the 20% of Guys they do find attractive aren’t the same). It seems that no man has ever had 100% attraction rate. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 11:09 PM |
| 1 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingHey, you'll be old one day too mate! lol. No, but congrats on winning the genetic lottery. lol. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 10:41 PM |
| 1 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingI mean... it's the most practical advice on here so far. lol | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 10:11 PM |
| 2 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingDid it. Tried to get me to "accept" myself. lol. Besides, what will that solve if I accept myself. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 10:09 PM |
| 2 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingSomeone had to have given you a compliment at some point lol A stripper called me handsome once... But when I didn't pay her she walked away and called me gay. Does that count? lol. But no, not really. Certainly, no woman has ever done so. Men have, but it's never in a real way. Like "grats" or "good job" pretty normal stuff. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 08:55 PM |
| 2 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothing*Deep Breathe... Looks Height Fat Poor Ugly Social outcast Social awkward Chopped Depressed Old And that's just the stuff I said about myself today. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 08:41 PM |
| 1 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingI tried that exercise once... couldn't come up with a single thing. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 08:37 PM |
| 0 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingI did the gym. Did it for years. Some results. And you know who cared? Absolutely no one! I noticed the results. Felt good. Women still didn’t look at me. Women didn’t anything around me. I lost weight, gained muscle and I felt WORSE about myself then when I was a fat fuck, because when I was fat at least I could understand why I was ugly. Now I’m just thin ugly. 😂 | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 06:08 PM |
| 1 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingI’m unhappy with my face mostly. I’m 5’11” and about 160lbs so I’m not super fat (have a beer belly though) | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 11:02 AM |
| 1 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingAt work? About co-workers? I hope that would be self-explanatory. If you are referring to my private life; Sex is private for me. It's something I crave, but will never have a lot of. I want to be 30 girls deep and be a playboy. But I'll never happen. I don't like it because it remains me of my loser life. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 01:05 AM |
| 18 | I have zero self-esteem. Like nothingLost my V-card at 26. First “girlfriend” at 36. Lost at eight weeks, after she realized I couldn’t keep buying her new things. And that’s it. Looks are generally rated between 2.5 and 3 out of 10. I am an unfortunate man. | /r/seduction | 18/03/26 12:44 AM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Yes. Next question. | /r/seduction | 16/03/26 09:23 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?You understand you just proved that game doesn’t exist, right? Reread what you just wrote. Think about it. If he doesn’t know what he’s doing… aka has no game… then what he is accomplishing is purely by genetics. If that is true (and I believe it is) then “game” can only equalizer an unequal playing field. If he had “game” he would be definition be indestructible. Or put it in another way… if every man wants to learn the same level of game, then it would be a non-factor and genetics would rule. … | /r/seduction | 16/03/26 08:35 PM |
| 2 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Oh looks, voice, height, money and I actually think too much. | /r/seduction | 16/03/26 01:14 AM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?How do you cover an ugly face, weak voice and shortness? Genuine question. | /r/seduction | 16/03/26 01:13 AM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?So far the costs have stopped me. It's a lot. Yes even in Turkey. I have gone back and forth with 2 clients. I have the estimates in my email still. | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 11:44 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Try what? You know "game" isn't real right? There is no magical cure for ugly. | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 11:14 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?If thoses are 5's... Who the fuck is my market? | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 08:21 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Know thyself. Some people are afraid to look in the mirror. Not me. I literally look everyday and tell myself how much I hate myself. | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 04:59 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?No, I'd rather have success. My question is, how? | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 02:17 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Haha. Did that. Can’t deny it works. They are crazy girls there. Now I’m going to get it for free. Lol | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 01:16 PM |
| 1 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Thought about it. Or an Essayist. | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 05:00 AM |
| 2 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Seriously? Come on. | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 04:23 AM |
| 0 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Still want it. | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 03:44 AM |
| -2 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?Yep. It makes me wanna throw myself off a bridge and just end the nightmare. | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 03:39 AM |
| 13 | I hate him, but am I wrong for wanting some of the kind of attention that Clavicular is getting?The real question you should be asking is this the kind of attention you want. Yes. Now how do I get it? | /r/seduction | 15/03/26 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Prince sounds like just snubs to me. The guys who wear the sunglasses in the club and drive cars they can't afford. Look at me, I make bad financial decisions! The problem is that if women are attractive, they expect their parents to be attractive physically. Physical attraction is still a thing here. The Princes are still pretty good-looking guys, and women respond to that. Particularly online, but also in real life. I'm not debating that the Princes are good guys and partners. I'm saying they … | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?100 percent | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 05:01 PM |
| 2 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Okay, so I read this paper, as I said I would... and where is your point? It states that physical attraction is still a major factor (more for men in this case), but it's not like the other traits overcome physical attraction. Second, we are talking about initial attraction, the only thing that matters in hookup culture and online dating. Not long-term attraction, which I agree IS more balanced against other traits, but you aren't going to have a long-term relationship if your partner doesn't se… | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Don't need therapy. I did my therapy. They found nothing wrong with me. Physical features are the sole aspect of initial attraction. Everything you listed happens AFTER attraction. They are all perfectly valid aspects of human life and important for maintaining a good life and relationships, but they have nothing to do with attraction. | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?you’re calculating your value using external variables that you cannot control. What is seducation? It's the external validation by strangers based on your game. I would argue that "game" doesn't exist, and confidence is at best a base to build out attraction. In other words... confidence only matters if she already finds you physically attractive. It can't improve your attraction; it can destroy it without confidence. | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Confidence feels like nothing is a great phrase, actually :) Still won't help attract women, but it's a great way to explain confidence. | /r/seduction | 10/03/26 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Yes, they are legal here. There's a spot down my street. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?I just like fact and figures and believe in the research. If you show me stats to counter these, I'd be more than happy to look at them. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?At least you're honest about it. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?We're not as uncommon as you think. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?You know they are actually legal where I am? Never did them before. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?I tried the gym for years! It doesn't work for me. Yes, I have considered Plastic Surgery. It's expensive, and the results are uncertain. Don't think I can afford the risk. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?You seem analytical and well spoken. Thanks, I work to develop my mind as my body is my weakest point. I'm the worst cliche: the ugly, smart guy. lol. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?I would agree with all of this except the last 3 paragraphs. Good summary overall, but looks is the most important factor in attraction, and I think behaviour can certainly kill attraction (I've seen it), but actions will never replace physical attraction. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?It seems like a new age gimmick to me. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Yes, attraction is the most important thing. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:26 PM |
| 0 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Women like confident men... that they are physically attractive to. There, I fixed it for you :) I've seen lack of confidence and emotional control ruin attractiveness. I've never seen it replace or even start an attraction. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Why would I choose myself if no one else would? | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?You aren't as smart as you think you are I have a membership card to prove otherwise. Are you trying to date a fucking model? Sabrina Carpenter or Sydney Sweeney or some shit? Yes? Of course? Not because they are celebrities but because they are attractive. She could be anyone, because in terms of attractiveness... 100% I'm aiming for that. people can sometimes pick up on what you're thinking because it puts you in a mood and that mood creates an atmosphere and the atmosphere sets the mood.... S… | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?Ok, and that energy is going to make a beautiful women fall for a frog man? I'm not saying energy isn't a real thing, I'm only asking how does it make an ugly guy like me a top 20% man? | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?I am tired. Which is why I have to give up. Some of us aren't meant for the fun life I guess. | /r/seduction | 09/03/26 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Confidence comes from within? It make you more attractive? You actually believe this?I'm reading all of them. But I like to reply with a thoughtful answer, and that takes time. I'm not here to argue. Clearly, I'm not going to understand this. But when I have two minutes, I will reply, and because you @ me. I'll reply to you first :) Also if you prefer, my DMs are open :) | /r/seduction | 08/03/26 05:14 PM |
| 2 | Im deleting dating appsI know exactly what you mean. Even when I see a woman on there where I go, "Wow, she's beautiful,"... I also feel no genuine connection to her. Of course, it's a picture! So I swap yes anyway, but part of me is also grateful we'll never match because the idea of wasting my time on her gives me a headache. | /r/seduction | 07/03/26 09:38 PM |
| 3 | Im deleting dating appsHey. I’m not allowed near average women so 10s are basically non existent to me. I only get older matches 40+ years of age. But don’t knock average girls. I’d kill for an average girl match. | /r/seduction | 07/03/26 08:30 PM |
| 16 | Im deleting dating appsWow… you got matches?! 😂 | /r/seduction | 07/03/26 08:25 PM |
| 1 | What's my appeal and can I change it?Sure just become more attractive 😂 Come on man. I’m looking for real advice here. Not BS. | /r/seduction | 06/03/26 11:17 PM |
| 1 | What's my appeal and can I change it?I did. I went from zero matches to 20-25 matches with older women. (Mostly single moms) I’m not an attractive man and any woman with opinions isn’t choosing me 😂. Certainly younger women see an unattractive safe man. Older woman just see a safe man with a pension fund. That’s what I meant when I said “what’s my appeal?” I guess it’s the safe guy who woman settle for, but won’t get them excited. I don’t mind getting an older woman. But I’d want one that I also find attractive too! | /r/seduction | 06/03/26 02:35 PM |
| 1 | What's my appeal and can I change it?Then I would get zero matches 😂. Excepts bots. Lots of bots. 🤖 Sad as it sounds, I’m addicted to my notifications just like everyone else. | /r/seduction | 06/03/26 02:21 PM |
| 2 | What's my appeal and can I change it?I like older women. Just not *these older women. (No offence to all the milfs out here). Yeah. What you're saying is... "pack it in, it's over?" lol. Cause the point of the post is that I give off a nerdy, bookworm vibe. I'm not ugly (probably below avg. I'd probably be a 3.5) but I get cute and safe a lot. | /r/seduction | 04/03/26 02:04 AM |
| 2 | What's my appeal and can I change it?Haha. Good point! | /r/seduction | 03/03/26 05:09 PM |
| 1 | What's my appeal and can I change it?MILFs are hot. I have no problem with older women. But these aren’t “sexy” older. There’s “normal” which is fine. But with OLD, because you are removing so many elements, you can only go by pictures. The idea of hitting on younger women in person gives me the creeps. I still look young, most think I’m 27-30, but when I meet anyone under 30 now it’s like they live in another reality. | /r/seduction | 03/03/26 02:56 PM |
| 2 | What's my appeal and can I change it?I have no game. LoL. I can’t fake it. I’m just me. That’s why I’m online. Pictures are easier to sell than in-person. I tried new clothes. New suits. I tried posing and it looked laughable. | /r/seduction | 03/03/26 02:49 PM |
| 2 | I feel so jealous of all the guys women choose to have sex with23? Dude, I didn't lose my V-card until 29 and I only got into a relationship at 36. You have time on your side. | /r/seduction | 04/01/26 07:07 PM |
| 1 | 20+ Hinge dates , 0 second dates [ SF ]I did nothing wrong... she had a guy break my fucking nose. I did nothing wrong... she screamed. I did nothing wrong... she told me to kill myself. Yes, it's impossible. | /r/seduction | 02/01/26 03:56 AM |
| 1 | 20+ Hinge dates , 0 second dates [ SF ]I've never cold approached in my whole life. Ever. Never will. Yes. I was beaten by a guy because I looked at his gf. She said she asked him to. I didn't file charges. Yes. I've had the cops call on me because I dared to talk to a women on the street (I was handing out flyers for a theatre show, and she panicked and screamed for the police. She said I was harassing her. All I said was "excuse me..." I've never heard anyone shriek that loudly before. Yes. I have asked three women out on dates. Al… | /r/seduction | 31/12/25 04:40 PM |
| 1 | 20+ Hinge dates , 0 second dates [ SF ]I’m in okay shape. I’ll never have a six pack but I’m not hanging over the side either lol. More of a pot belly. I recently lost 18 kgs but I may have to have surgery to remove the rest. | /r/seduction | 28/12/25 01:43 PM |
| 1 | 20+ Hinge dates , 0 second dates [ SF ]I don’t have a coach. I was in therapy, but there is nothing wrong with me. | /r/seduction | 28/12/25 01:37 PM |
| -3 | 20+ Hinge dates , 0 second dates [ SF ]Haha cold approach… bro’s trying to get me arrested over here. 🤣 I’ve been beaten, humiliated, laughed at, and yes had the police called (they ultimately did nothing and said the girl was crazy). So no cold approach is not the road to success here either. I moved on to OLD because I didn’t want to bother women in public. That’s why I commented on this thread. Get a gf? 🤣 Bro I’m 37. I’ve had one gf who dumped me 8 weeks later. | /r/seduction | 28/12/25 01:17 PM |
| 0 | 20+ Hinge dates , 0 second dates [ SF ]I have 0 matches over the past 9 years. Across several apps. I paid for nee photos. Paid for coaching. Lost weight. New clothes. You may just be really good looking. No fixing profiles for to account for that. 🙂 | /r/seduction | 28/12/25 12:59 PM |
| 7 | 20+ Hinge dates , 0 second dates [ SF ]20 dates? Dude? How? | /r/seduction | 28/12/25 03:59 AM |
| 2 | How bad of an idea is it to tell women that I'm a virgin?27 and still a virgin here, so let me speak from experience. Friends - Go for it. Be honest. Dates - Probably not a good on the first couple. Bars - Nope! Don't even go there. You come off awkward. Here's the catch - If I manage to sleep with a women, and they feel weird after the fact. You can't stop that. Don't sweat it. But if you are anything like me... this will drive you nuts until it happens. Relax, enjoy the company. | /r/seduction | 17/04/16 04:47 AM |
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