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The simple explanation is: Because women are the gatekeepers to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:29 PM
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For a wife the podcast description is accurate. However, unless they’re religious most all HVM have two categories for women: “fun” (sex) or serious (marriage potential). You’re looking at the former.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/23 05:58 PM
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Man here - it is.
/r/RedPillWomen10/08/23 05:53 PM
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Молодец
/r/seduction10/07/23 10:32 PM
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100% this. Maybe if you’re great at cooking, cleaning, and homemaking, but I’d still think most Trad men want kids.
/r/RedPillWomen01/05/23 01:33 PM
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There are two different categories for (most) men: Have you ever turned a woman down for her body count? For sex: no For a relationship: yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:36 PM
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Those plugs should be "shameful" there so damn many of them, lol
/r/MensRights21/07/22 02:54 AM
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The trolling worked and now they've gone to cry in their corner, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:54 PM
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Of course, but then they wouldn't be embracing their gIrL pOweR / GiRl bOsS, lol Seriously, men that want a relationship put women into two categories: "just for fun" vs. "potential GF/wife." If she's giving it up right way -> she goes into the "just for fun" category.
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:28 PM
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Yep. Women control access to sex. Men control access to commitment. Always has been this way, always will be.
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:19 PM
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Invest in cat food companies, lol ;)
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:17 PM
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You're right, but most people in the west can't/won't come to terms with this. Good luck out there, mate.
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:09 PM
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Actual constructive feedback IMO (from a guy that was more-or-less like this in his 20s): If they want that 9/10 dudes they should date guys in their mid-late 30s that want to settle down, (get married, have kids, all that). Maybe even early 40s. Highly attractive dudes in their 20s are spoiled for choice and just want to get laid, typically. Start with "what are you looking for" and proceed accordingly. Don't just let them bang straightaway and hope for the best, that will obviously lead to get…
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:07 PM
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do you have tattoos? Why or why not? No. Just never felt like getting one. Much better things to spend my money on. men proclaim that women having tattoos is a “red flag” for high-n, promiscuity, impulsivity etc. and that women with tattoos make bad partners. Trad women are less likely to get them, which is a green flag for me. Rabid feminists, man haters and/or sluts are more likely to get them so yes, it's a decent indicator of a red flag. However, red flag or not, they just look bad on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:46 PM
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Well perhaps not consciously, but subconsciously I'm sure plenty of people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:32 PM
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OP, you're looking for a false-equivalency here. RP men are not looking for "mommy 2.0." TRP has ample teachings about understanding that romantic love is conditional, which is the opposite of a mother's love, which is (generally) unconditional. This YouTuber isn't my favorite, but here's an example from a quick Google search: https://youtu.be/LJKkd-ATS2E
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:17 PM
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Men who have problems with women are subconsciously looking for a Mommy. TRP specifically warn against this. It teaches men that romantic love is conditional, which is obviously true. In actuality this really isn't a "Red Pill" concept, but nothing else is teaching to men (TMK). To the contrary, bullshit from media like Disney has brainwashed plenty of people, men and women, into thinking that romantic love is unconditional, which is demonstrably FALSE.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:12 PM
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They're great because you can drop them off anywhere and boom, they're home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:09 AM
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My fiancée is a small business owner and she is legit one of the (if not the) hardest working and most driven people I've ever known. I find this incredibly attractive because I too am a small business owner and know how insanely difficult it can be. With that said, we are going to start "trying" to have children after we are married later this year. She wants to stay at home with our first child while he/she is young, until 3 or 4 years old (her decision). We will most likely have a second chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:00 PM
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Oversimplified. You're conflating the societal power system with individual relationships. The fact that Joe Biden, a white man, is the President of the USA has absolutely nothing to do with the average white man's sexual relationship dynamics. But I actually agree with you about not needing an outlet for "hate." However, just because men "shouldn't" need an outlet for supposed wrong doings, imagined or otherwise, doesn't mean they won't seek one out. Victimhood is all the rage these days, as I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:19 PM
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Despite some of their complaints being melodramatic and misplaced IMHO ("men can be pathetic if they want, it's fine"), the fact that this kind of thing is common-place and even lauded in many circles is why subs like /r/MensRights exist. Also, if you flip this scenario there would be public outrage in like 99% of Reddit. it's extremely hypocritical.
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/22 02:01 PM
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E-girls are repulsive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:13 AM
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We are rare indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 06:09 AM
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Just going out on a limb here, but I assume it's because they mock and scorn beta male types. My understanding is that the Mens Right sub tries to be accepting of any/all men and want to normalize any behavior for said men, no matter how pathetic/beta they may be - this is very different from TRP, which will call a man out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:29 PM
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Men have always been in charge and (ultimately) always will be (despite public appearances of egalitarianism) because that is how humanity works on a fundamental level. People can cry about how "unfair" it is, but it will never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:25 PM
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Being popular doesn't make you right, and being unpopular doesn't make you wrong. The opposite of both those statements is also true. Bandwagoning / mob-mentality / group-think has always been dangerous and always will be. The entire _idea_ of dissenting thought and free speech....is basically what the USA was founded on, hence the 1st Amendment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 10:21 PM
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u/hmmimconfused, you should check out /r/RedPillWomen. I think you'll like it and find them to be welcoming of you and your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 07:25 PM
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I can agree, but most HVM don't want to share their man, at least in my experience. If you can find an amazing woman that is open to that then more power to you. Personally I'm Christian, so don't want to commit adultery, but I definitely understand the conundrum of The Coolidge Effect. I will say it gets easier as you get older and your sex drive slows down a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:08 PM
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We, as men, are obligated to give up our sexual strategy of pursing new women ("spreading your seed") in order to be monogamous in marriage. Similarly, women are obligated to give up their sexual strategy of hypergamy when they agree that you are the best man they can/will get in their lifetime, so the two of you marry. The problems arise when either of the two parties fail to uphold their end of the bargain - the man cheats, or the woman reneges, finding a "better" man. However, provided that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:57 PM
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I work in Tech and know Devs that are brilliant at their job, but socially inept, some almost to an idiot-savant level. I believe they're commonly called "austists," though I have no idea if they are actually autistic or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:44 PM
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“Tattoos, crazy hair, drinks and smokes” All things that don’t really affect attractiveness or appeal. Yes they do. I always swiped left on women with arm tattoos when I was using OLD, even if they were hot otherwise. It absolutely makes them look "trashy" and less attractive in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:33 PM
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They wake up thinking of RP, just live life and do what you want Just doing what YOU want + the "give no fucks" attitude (or the conserving your "fucks" appropriately, rather) is the true definition of "alpha." Blindly following any doctrine, be it RP or whatever, is NOT alpha, and that's a hill I will die on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:28 PM
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Indeed I am! I gave up alcohol at the start of this year, try to eat healthy (more or less, lol), and exercise 3-5 times a week: running 2-3 miles a day, and lifting. #FeelsGoodMan
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:23 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but yes, I'm getting married and settling down. The biggest reason though is because I want to have children while I'm still "young" (enough) to handle it. I wouldn't say I was scoring the "hottest women whenever" I wanted, but I did have success with dating apps when I was using them. According to the Black Pill types I beat the odds, and by an astronomical amount, lol. If I didn't want kids I'd still be with my GF (now fiancee) because she is amazing. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:13 AM
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More exponential amount of partners really messes even with men. I have a couple male friends who had had 100's, and they cant deal with just 1 woman on a long term basis, same issue I had with a friend who she had slept with 20+ guys. I've also seen this in action. Granted, it's less true for men that a high N-count decreases their pair-bonding ability (they can rack up a higher number than women), but nonetheless it is ultimately true. Case in point, a buddy of mine would cheat on every single…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:18 PM
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Stay strong and good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 04:06 PM
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Based and Bible-pilled (although not realistic for most in this day and age).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:23 AM
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Extremely hard agree, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:22 AM
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That's cool and I agree with "you do you," but when you blanket accuse people of caring about N count being "insecure" it looks like you're coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:21 AM
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I have no kids yet, so no I would not date any woman with a child/children regardless of her previous circumstances that got her there. For me it's all about being on the same life path. My fiancee and I are going to have our first child together once we're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:45 PM
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If she is impressed by what I'm doing naturally / me just doing me, great. If not, that's fine too. I'm not going to do something above-and-beyond to try and impress her, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:22 PM
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Yes, and I have one with my fiancée. Short list of what makes it so great (it's going to sound braggadocios, but there's no way around that): Companionship, friendship, and mutual interests: snowboarding, hiking, camping, live shows, etc. Our sex life is amazing. She cooks for me a few times a week. I also cook for her on occasion, and sometimes we cook together. She is funny, very intelligent, and a great conversationalist. She also speaks three languages fluently and is helping me learn one. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:16 PM
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I think just about any other woman on earth would be a tremendous upgrade at this point, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:57 PM
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The fact that they were in an open relationship? That's the dream, isn't it? No, it's really not. At least certainly not for Trad RP and/or Christian men such as myself. To quote good ole George Jones, I'm a One Woman Man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 04:40 PM
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They are iRobots, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:43 PM
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Hate to sound like a crazy conspiracy theory guy here, but could it be possible that actors at an award show were, I dunno......acting? </shocked-pikachu-face>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:43 PM
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I'm a Trad RP man, so fully agree with and prescribe to monogamy and marriage being the ideal, personally. With that said... Women's sexual strategy is hypergamy, and men's sexual strategy is varied/unlimited mate selection. Both are compromised in marriage: the woman says "I have the best man for me, for life" and the man says "I will forgo sex with other women, for life." Despite this, women do "trade-up" for men they perceive to be better, and men do cheat on their wives, or have "open" marri…
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/22 04:25 PM
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The women of /r/RedPillWomen understand this, thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:18 AM
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women just don’t wanna fuck as much as them True, because men have (much more) testosterone. Plenty of science to back this, if it really needs to be stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:11 AM
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Exactly right, I've above average. Just check my flair if you don't believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:09 AM
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There are tons of shit deals for men as well, trust and believe. It's all perspective and how you react to them and work with the hand you're dealt. Life isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:04 AM
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Enjoying sex is not a problem at all, nor did I mean to insinuate that it is. Sex, if not enjoyed, shouldn't even be had to begin with. Enjoying sex doesn't necessarily equate to racking up a high n-count. After all, most everyone enjoys sex. What's problematic is women that engage in sex out of compulsion for whatever reason (likely the opposite of enjoying sex, BTW), or just reckless abandon. Such women are not sexually discerning enough and make bad parters. This is just my opinion of course,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:17 AM
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Why all of that outrage? Because it implies judgment on one's character and life choices. People don't like that. No, it's much easier to just pretend you've never made mistakes than to own it. Also, women are notorious for dodging responsibility, especially for their poor choices. So, being a slut is rebranded as being an "empowered woman." She didn't do anything wrong, it's society and men that are wrong! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:26 AM
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Caring about body count is insecure No, it really isn't. For you it is, but as a blanket statement about men, that is false. My GF has told me freely, without any sort of prompting, "you're the best I've ever had" (sexually). I wasn't worried about measuring up to her past partners (sexually, or otherwise) before she told me this. Judging from her character and personality I could tell her number was (most likely) sufficiently low. However, I still wanted to know her number to know if she's LTR …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:16 AM
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Hard agree, that's very reasonable. No one except your sexual partner has a right to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:06 AM
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The dating stage is too soon to ask. It only become relevant if a relationship is starting to materialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 01:01 AM
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Men who see women as damaged because they've had sex have major issues. IME women with high n-counts rack up said count by acting out past trauma, daddy issues, insecurities, etc. So, the high n-count is more of an indicator of low-value vs the actual cause of the low-value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:47 AM
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their view of sex work in general. Which is a red flag to you, approving of it or not approving of it? And do you mean online stuff like OF, traditional sex work (prostitution), or both? And it's also a bit gray area with legality vs. morality: One can support legalizing prostitution, but not want to participate in it themselves. Same for OnlyFans - obviously it should be legal, but I want nothing to do with it, nor to associate with anyone that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 12:39 AM
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Hard agree. I mean I get what OP is after, but It's important to question one's worldview and confirmation biases.
/r/MensRights14/03/22 11:23 PM
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/r/MarriedRedPill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 07:15 PM
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SMV gets them in the door RMV keeps them there 100% true. Men instantly place women into two categories (and yes, I do this too): just for "fun" -or- LTR/marriage material (assume he wants that). SMV is seen right away, but RMV (relationship market value) takes time to see. If she's not in the second category I'm not even considering it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:09 AM
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All my male friends want relationships. If I may ask, what is the age-range? I wasn't keen on an LTR in my early-mid 20s, and certainly not marriage. Now in my late 30s I have dated mostly women in their late 20s and they've told me they don't date men close to their age because of the "Peter Pan syndrome" (don't want to commit or get married).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:55 PM
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Make sense, yes. "Men fall in love with their eyes. Women fall in love with their ears."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:50 PM
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Yes. When I was in college I was a musician and hung out with the "theater kids" (plenty of attractive women and mostly gay dudes). It was easy, but this was the notoriously liberal, party crowd. Perhaps, but who knows. Worth mentioning, my aforementioned college experience was about 15 years ago. I'm dating for marriage now, so no. That's not the kind of woman I want as mother of my future kids. Back in my 20s I would've probably been ok with it (just for fun).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:49 PM
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I mean yeah, she is too thin for some dudes. I prefer medium-build or thin women, personally. I think her face was objectively high on the scale, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:27 PM
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Not even this complex I don't think. Dude I know had his webcam on and was jerking away, full face visible and everything. I assume there must have been a naked woman on the other side, but then again this dude isn't the brightest bulb.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:35 PM
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I actually know a guy IRL that this happened to! He went on FB to tell everyone, "Hey if you get sent a picture of my dick it's because I was scammed, but I ain't paying them fuckers!!' Real classy guy, LMFAOooo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:33 PM
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~~SPOILERS AHEAD!!~~ ​ Is "The Tinder Swindler" what happens to women who vastly over estimate their SMV? Maybe? But I actually didn't see that... The younger blonde that was his GF in the beginning of the doc, and the brunette GF that sold his clothes - both were strong 7s IMO, maybe even 8s. Would a real billionaire diamond heir date them or be their BF? Looks-wise I can't see why not... Funny enough, the older blonde (think she was 32) wasn't that cute, like a 5 or a weak 6....and she rejecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:31 PM
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Thanks, kind Redditor. Almost two years later I'm doing pretty good! :) I agree with your username, BTW haha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 06:12 PM
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Let me preface my comment here by saying (I'm a man and) I almost ALWAYS side with the man after reading things like this, or at the very least see his side of it. I also hate the obligatory "just break up" advice that is handed out like candy daily on Reddit. With that said: OP, honestly this dude sounds like he just sucks, sorry. I'm 100% for self-improvement, but this sounds hypercritical and negative. The two of you are quite young and hopefully he'll learn...but still, he should know better…
/r/RedPillWomen30/01/22 01:37 AM
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I have a few times, but my ex-wife fucking decimated my heart when she divorced me...even though it was for the best, and I saw it coming. We were married just shy of 8 years, together for a decade. If I live to be 100 I hope I never feel heartache like that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:24 AM
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an onlyfans worker that she is 47 years old and look like a 20 years old girl. Bullshit, loll. Only in her own mind does she "look 20." Onlyfans is for pathetic simp losers, but even still, who TF is sub'ing to a 47 fake looking hag when you could look at a natural 22 year old? Better still, just look at her for free elsewhere online. Anyhow, IRL the bigger issue is for men that want kids. You can't fake reproductive health, and the data on this is very clear. The "wall" is debatable for looks s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:04 PM
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If a woman is asked what qualities in men attract her, an answer of "Height, muscles, full head of hair, nice chiseled face, and a large penis!" will practically start a bonfire and a witch hunt here at PPD. Who's doing this, other women? I don't see any RP men putting down women for being honest. To the contrary, RP acknowledges this is attractive and says "go workout." Obviously you can't do shit about your height, jawline, and dick size, so hope you just got lucky in those departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:56 PM
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My issue with your take is that it insinuates that it's "beta" to be married...or "alpha" to be unmarried, both of which are demonstrably false. TRP doesn't warn against getting married and/or having kids because it makes you a beta. No, it does so because of the risks incurred with marriage and having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:11 PM
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You...don't think the majority of men are betas? Where did I say that? I didn't. the definition of an alpha, a man that goes against the herd, one that's a leader. Yes, of course, and almost all of the alphas I've known and know now are married men. I grew up in the "Bible belt" part of the South, so perhaps that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:01 PM
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rich men in finance. Ahh, the scummiest of the scumbags...either them or lawyers, haha. One of my very best friends is an attorney, so let me add this: /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:00 PM
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I've had a lot of GFs over the years and out of all of them, I only cheated on one....and that was because she cheated on me first. I fucked like 4 or 5 other girls while we were together (about a year or so), some of them she even knew. When we broke up I listed them out to her, detailing how and when I cheated on her with them....and she cried. NGL, it felt great! loll So yeah, only once and it was for revenge. I was 23 and stupid. I should've just dumped her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:54 PM
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In most LTRs this isn't the case. Why would you assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 08:15 PM
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sex in the relationship is transactional Ehh, not really. Genuine lust and attraction is what makes sex non-transactional. And yes, that is per TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:46 PM
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"Rules for thee, but not for me." - Alpha Chad, addressing Beta Brad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 07:43 PM
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Denver metro area, Colorado. Boulder is even worse. Insane to me you don't know anyone like this in Cali...do you live somewhere inland? I can't think of many non-liberal places in CA on the coast....maaaybe San Diego (a bit). Moreover, a quick Google search turned up these links: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/magazine/white-men-privilege.html https://scholars.law.unlv.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1465&context=nlj https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-should-we-talk-about-wh…
/r/MensRights20/01/22 07:02 PM
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The "men are bad" narrative is without question being pushed online and by the media. Straight white men being the "worst" of all, of course. You'd have to be blind not to see it. And yes, if you live in a city you undoubtedly know people that are eating this bullshit up. Mostly women, but men too....even white men, lol. FFS, it's all over the very site we're on right now.
/r/MensRights18/01/22 05:26 AM
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...I should add that self-confidence and self-esteem are of course GOOD traits for any/all healthy human beings. However, it's all in the presentation... Tons of modern feminists project an air of disdain for men and try to exude "confidence" due to their bitterness towards men and the supposed "patriarchy." The idea of "we are equal" has been supplanted with "we are better." It's a false bravado that most men see through immediately - that is what I meant by saying that it's a "turnoff," to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:36 PM
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Is a confident woman a threat? No, it's a turnoff because she is masculine. Men love to compete in the workplace, in sports, in games, etc, etc. Competition is hardwired into our DNA. However, men hate to compete with their romantic partner. We're also hardwired to provide, even though it's often unnecessary in modern society. Be feminine and you'll attract men. Be masculine and you'll repel men - it really is this simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:24 PM
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it's stupid to want a man who will be supportive of me AND make more money than me As a RP guy, I actually do not agree. My fiancé is a currently a career woman and makes pretty decent money...and I support and believe in her 100%. FWIW, I make about 2x what she does. As of right now, I don't financially support her at all and this is actually how I prefer it...again, for now. I like that she can support herself financially and I find that very attractive. Also, yes, she's extremely intelligent …
/r/RedPillWomen14/01/22 12:56 AM
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https://youtu.be/OEwY8VVZDLs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 05:32 PM
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No idea why he'd be called that. He's simply a writer and a blogger. TMK, he's just been writing and doing his blogs, videos, and interviews as usual recently. I don't follow him super closely, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:38 PM
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some are loving boyfriends and husbands. Rollo Tomassi, author of The Rational Male (considered by most as the "Bible" of TRP) is himself, married: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/7eesgs/what_is_everyones_thoughts_on_rollo_tomassi_being/ This is much more commonplace than you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:02 PM
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Yep, that's me. I've been told I'm "not really RP" more than once, but I DNGAF about the gatekeepers. Bitterness and jealousy is rampant in online RP communities and yes, there are tons of Blackpill/Incel guys that are posing as Red Pill guys, but again, they are really not the same thing. Crab-mentality is found in just about any community - people that hate themselves project that hate outward... Moreover, just like feminism, black lives matter, the alt-right, and any other movement, The Red P…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:57 PM
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Belief is powerful and subjective and you get what you are. That's why I don't choose to 100% believe in AWALT, even though I'm (mostly) RP. If you are an emotionally healthy person you will (eventually) attract another person that is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:45 PM
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As a RP man, I have found AWALT to be less true that it is espoused to be. It's oversimplified IMO - it should be 8-9/10 of women are like that 8-9/10 of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:13 PM
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Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:10 PM
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I love your blizzards and when you hold them upside down right before handing them to me. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:09 PM
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Speaking of resentful, women that I see online in those subs (and in FB groups) seem extremely resentful of men. It's like modern feminism has turned into this war cry of "fuck men, it's our turn now!" Equality seems to have gone out the window and retribution and retaliation are the frontrunners now...and men are not interested in hearing women's excuses for them. I was not alive in the 50s. What happened then had nothing to do with me. I actually believe in equal rights for women (all adult hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:56 PM
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That's no good, my friend. I hope you get the help you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:49 PM
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Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:36 PM
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r/TheRedPill That sub is not specifically for men, but it essentially is just men, yes. And, much to the shock and awe of some here I bet, this sub exists: /r/RedPillWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:35 PM
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I'm a straight man in a very happy relationship with a woman, but believe what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:22 PM
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/r/lebowski/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:20 PM
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Any idea how to destroy this website? It actually might self-destruct soon: https://fortune.com/2021/12/16/reddit-goes-public-ipo-filing/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:13 PM
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Incel/RP dudes Not the same thing. Incels are blackpill, not RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:05 PM
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Sadly, I think you are mostly right, OP. Hatred of the opposite sex is no way to live your life. I put it on par with racism or any other kind of discrimination. I'm 40 years old and if I have gleaned any bit of wisdom from being a (relatively) old fuck, it's this: you get out of life what you put into it & you see in the world what you have in yourself. So, if you expect the worst from people, don't be surprised when you get it. Personally, I try to do the opposite, to give people the benefit o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:01 PM
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Honestly, I actually come here for what the sub description says, to question my beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 06:52 PM
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"you (men) don't want an intelligent woman because you are just intimidated, you can't handle her" Read, "she's an insufferable bitch." Gee, wonder why men don't just LOVE her?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:44 AM
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Pretty much any woman can get sex, so TMK a femcel is more so a woman that refuses to have sex (and/or has unconventional views on sex..?).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:53 PM
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Seems like legalizing prostitution would solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:48 PM
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I think Slavic culture has treated women a little better in some ways. Ok, I can definitely agree, yes. Actually my GF is from Belarus and she is markedly different from American women in very positive ways. Most notably she's not bitter or resentful towards men...at all. It's worth noting though that she does even self-identify as a "feminist" (insofar as she believes women deserve equal rights as men in society, on which I agree) albeit not an angry one, and she's also not a "woke" (leftist) k…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 09:40 PM
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The only consequence so far is that when women have more sex men can't control them as much. Boo hoo. Get over it. Boring and predictable, *yawn.* More ad-hominem and gaslighting because you have no argument. You can say you're not a feminist all you want, but this is textbook feminist speak. Point and sputter, wah wah "yOu'Re An iNcEl." Lastly, I'm actually not advocating for it, but men have always been able to and will always be able to physically overpower and control women. Another part of …
/r/MensRights29/12/21 07:03 PM
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No it isn't. That's from having unsafe sex. Uh huh, so by your logic here any/all of the quarantines that we've done (and are doing) for COVID-19 are pointless because we have masks...right? And that's assuming 100% of people use masks (or condoms) 100% of the time, which...LOL if you believe that. I like to have my views challenged, but come on...this is too easy. Also, seeing as they're currently no cure for it, you should educate yourself a bit more on HSV-1/2 (herpes) to take such a blasé st…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 06:56 PM
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Exactly, and there are biological reasons for this (mate-guarding, essentially). Even if society completely embraces rampant sexual indiscretion (which will never happen, but hypothetically) and refuses to acknowledge said reasons, but they nonetheless exist.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 06:10 PM
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No. Sexual discretion is not about “prejudiced assumptions.” It is factual that you get STDs from having multiple sexual partners. And like the other person in this thread pointed out, many people aren’t buying the bullshit feminist narrative that you can have casual sex without consequence. People that are not sexually discerning are in denial - they need to believe lies because they want to validate their poor life choices. Again, make said choices all you want, but don’t expect anyone to vali…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 06:06 PM
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What exactly did men in generations past do to women in the United States that was so heinous that wasn’t also being done the world over, particularly in Western Europe? I ask because you mentioned that Europeans supposedly treated their women better and so as a result they don’t have it as bad with modern feminism, but I see no evidence of this. From my vantage point feminism in the west is just that, regardless of which country it is.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 12:35 PM
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I agree with you in general about learning from the past, but it’s absolutely not men’s fault that feminism exists and that it’s shit now. I believe in equal rights for all humans and actually think its roots were pure and honorable enough, but it’s a total joke today. It’s hurting women more than helping them, and in turn hurting society. But again, this is women’s fault, not men’s.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 12:30 PM
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TRP shouldn’t have been banned either, but here we are…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 04:44 AM
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Bitter females that hate men and the disaster that is modern feminism is also men’s fault now?! Got it.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 04:43 AM
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I loved reading this and am glad people like you exist and are here. Thank you.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 10:38 PM
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Proud to be the bad guy then!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/21 10:27 PM
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you feel sexual inadequacy. Still getting triggered and going ad hominem because I won't fall in line with the horseshit modern narrative that being a whore is just all roses and sunshine, lol. Yet I never said *you* are a slut, you're just falling in line with the narrative like the rest of the "woke" folks and leftists. Don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings by offending them with the truth, God forbid. So sure, go ahead and fuck anyone and everyone as quickly and often as you like. I'm sure it'll…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 10:10 PM
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Having sex is a shit decision? Nope, and I never said anything like that. I said being a slut (as a man or a woman) is a shit decision.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 08:36 PM
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I'm not a feminist. Ok, well you share their views. Walks like a duck, etc. The only consequence is you feel less secure and in control of women. Poor you. I don't know why you're making this personal, it's not (defense mechanism because you're taking it personally?). Again, I'm talking about what's best for society, but I'm a libertarian. I don't want to "control" anyone and I truly DNGAF what people do behind closed doors. However, from a societal perspective it's fucking stupid to lie to thes…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 08:33 PM
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The toxic POS female dream, sure.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/21 08:15 PM
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shaming women for having sex because it benefits men Not really, tons of modern men (most, even?) absolutely "love" sluts (well, they enjoy having sex with them, but nothing more). But in truth, it's bad for society and yes, it's bad for women. However, you're a free and autonomous adult. Be a slut all you want, but don't expect society to lie to you to cottle your feelings and make you feel better about your shit decisions and poor life choice - it's not happening. It's very common for modern w…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 08:13 PM
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Using what people used to do is a bad example. Things change. There are lots of things that boomers used to do that are deemed unethical nowadays. By whom, feminists and leftists? Huge LOL if so. That's like a murderer talking about how the death sentence is immoral. Cognitive dissonance. ...but sure, there are traditions that are/were negative and even immoral. But moreso, and I'd say it's lot more common in most civilizations, there is wisdom and knowledge in traditionalism. To say that tradit…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 07:59 PM
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harboring sexist views about women who have sex on the first date just makes one more sexist It's not sexist, it's realistic. It's objective fact that people that have sex on the first date have sex with more people, which means one would be unwise to pursue a relationship with said person: the likelihood of them cheating is higher, and their ability to pair-bond is diminished. Furthermore women are the gatekeepers to sex - they are the ones who say yes or no. Men pursue sex, women choose who to…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 06:06 PM
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Expecting money for what, the date? Expecting the man to pay for the date is not "indicative of poor ethics" or a "poor foundation," it's literally just traditionalism. If anything people that are more traditional generally have stronger ethics than (so called) "progressives." I'm all for women paying for half or all of the date, but it's pretty silly to sit here and call all women that don't do that unethical. This is a relatively new shift in the dynamics of dating, remember. It absolutely was…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 05:18 PM
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not men in general. Actually yes, men in general want sex from women. I thought we all knew this, it's fairly obvious and self-evident. ​ Just because one wants provision doesn't mean they should go around calling men low value for not spending lots of money on them on a first date. How much money you spend on a first date is absolutely no indication of value Sure, and I agree. ​ Just like fucking on the first date isn't an indication of companionship. Offering sex on the first date is mainly in…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 05:08 PM
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Source? I'm sure there are plenty of books and research papers on this, but I'll just point out some objective and demonstrable facts... Women are especially vulnerable when they are pregnant, and even when they have a young child. In the entirety of our history as a species (up until very recently), a man (typically the father, ideally...hopefully) was the one that provided for and took care of said woman. Now society has tried to usurp the role of a father by making it safe for the mother, but…
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:55 PM
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/s
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:33 PM
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King move! Smart man
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:30 PM
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This is incredibly interesting and refreshing, I may have to get this book! Thanks
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:28 PM
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Who’s fault is it that the west isn’t having children though? Here’s a giant hint: it’s not men’s!
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:25 PM
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Suggest a coffee or a walk first. If it goes well and you like her you can take her iceskating for the second date. She’s clearly into you. I get the whole “she shouldn’t want me for my money” thing and while I do agree, being cheap isn’t a good look for anyone. Just be careful not to ruin your chances with a good woman because of a personal hangup over this is all I’m saying. I’m a traditionalist though, so perhaps I’m in the minority in this sub. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:21 PM
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It’s a bad look for a woman to flagrantly advertise that she wants financial provisioning, but if we’re being pragmatic and realistic here, that IS how women are biologically programmed as human beings. The fact that the feminist movement happened and women make their own money now does not and will not change that biological imperative…anymore than how women prefer taller men, so IMO it’s better to be open and honest about it, meet it head on. The converse of this is that men mainly want women …
/r/MensRights28/12/21 04:15 PM
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You are right, but I don’t make it so obvious that I’m trying to have sex with her, especially not on the first date. Also, even though sex is extremely high on my list (probably even #1), I don’t think of her as just a warm hole. I want more from my women than just sex. Women making it so obvious that they just want a provider is the inverse of this, the woman equivalent.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 03:51 PM
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As it should be, she is repulsive and the idea that she’s even healthy let alone attractive is a total joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:39 PM
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Nope, it’s the truth. I’m only friends with my buddies’ GFs or wives. I have no single women “friends,” and it’s very much intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:07 AM
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It’s a horrible idea, especially for men. Know your worth and do better, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:04 AM
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Every girl will eventually be an OF girl, even if she’s just sending pics to guys on tinder, why would you want the less attractive person who can’t use their looks to make money? What?? Sending private nudes on Tinder is *not* being an OF content provider. Surely the distinction is obvious. And I don't "want" anyone to do or not do anything, I just want society to stop fucking bullshiting everyone into a false sense of complancency, telling us all that is "normal" and acceptable behavior - IT I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:35 PM
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If a woman is making money on OF all it means is YOU are making money on OF Great, so you're a cuck and a digital pimp. How wonderful for you and your woman, lol /s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:31 PM
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u/agathokakologicalme, it's not sexist, and these are not terms that change with societal and cultural shifts - you have been mislead if you think that's the case. I only made the top comment, so I can't speak to the rest ("branded some women as "good women" that would be married...") If it were a man is doing OF he is also a whore. Albeit most likely it'd be a gay man, but it's effectively the same. A whore, by definition, is someone that sells sex and/or intimacy - just because it's not physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:25 PM
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Even though I'm (mostly) RP I actually do not believe in "AWALT" (all women are like that). My GF is absolutely amazing and is a "unicorn" in my opinion, but not because she doesn't do OF. That should be the bare minimum qualification for an average woman, let alone a HVW.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:21 PM
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I don't know, but I'm one of them. I've found my "unicorn," thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:18 PM
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Wow, that is not what I expected! Interesting indeed. Thanks for the post and good luck out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:05 PM
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Please do explain exactly how or why this is supposedly “sexist.” I am serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:04 PM
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“Insecurity”, lol. Typical BP response, how uninspired and unoriginal. Yes, it actally is quite easy to look and see what other high-value men do, and dating OF women sure AF isn’t it. If they were in your social circle you could easily see it too. And yes, it’s perfectly logical to compare OF “models” to porn stars. They are selling sex. And as I wrote before, no, I do not care what people do with their lives. We are all adults, do as you wish. However, just because I support your freedom of ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:02 PM
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Reality is sexist, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:54 PM
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/u/sweetLikeCream, roughly where do you live? I assume in a rural area in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:53 PM
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To just fuck her and toss her aside, sure. Plenty of dudes will do that, most will. But for a relationship, forget it. You may not want a relationship, but most women do and I’d even say most men do (at least eventually).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:14 AM
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Two things: 1. It’s true that women aren’t as visually attracted to men as men are to women and… 2. Women constantly lie about this to try and take the moral high ground of appearing to be less shallow than men (or even other women).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:11 AM
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It should be disincentivized for both the suppliers and the purchasers. Thots and simps will always exist in society, but the very least we can do is call out the bullshit for what it is. A traditional whore serves a purpose in society, but an OF digital whore is a just a societal parasite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:48 AM
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Thank you, u/CimZim! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:44 PM
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It's tricky for me as a (mostly) "trad-con" kind of guy because I absolutely want to provide for my woman and start a family, so she will be able to stop working for at least 2-3 years per child, starting at birth, going until the child is about 3 or 4 years old (so he/she can go to preschool). However, I expect my woman to want to provide value for our family....I essentially demand it, because that's what I'm doing so that's only fair and right. Now, that doesn't totally rule out being a SAHM,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:27 PM
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Hmm, first time I'm hearing about RMV (Relationship Market Value), but that makes a lot of sense!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:15 PM
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Absolutely 100% THIS!! ^ I DNGAF how attractive she is, should could be a 10/10 "Victoria Secret super model" in the looks department. However, if she's just lazing around the house all day and mooching off of her man she is LOW VALUE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 06:07 PM
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You’re right, and see you more of in the world what you fixate on….so don’t dwell on the negative!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:03 AM
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Just for a hookup a 6 is probably fine. Preferably a 7 or better of course, but the point is men will drop their standards a bit for sex, but not commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:00 AM
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If Chad is a HVM then that means he won’t be fucking just any woman. He’d go for a 6 or above at least for a hookup, and likely a 8 at a minimum for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:51 PM
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Do men value “sexual intimacy” over all other forms of intimacy? Absolutely 100% YES, without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:01 PM
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Fhake and ghey
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:33 AM
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I've never known a woman that was into pegging her guy, but then again I've never really asked either. Seems like some horrible dominatrix shit to me, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:32 AM
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Pegging?! WTF, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:05 AM
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Feminism and the “boss bitch” attitude are a huge turnoff. Stop trying to compete with men. Be sweet and pleasant to be around. Make his life better and he will see you are a keeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:51 PM
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Good point, yes. I grew up in the South (Alabama and Tennessee), but live in Colorado now, which is much more liberal and progressive. In my opinion this is less cultural and more innate, but culture does of course play a role and traditionalism obviously embraces this more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:47 PM
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Right, that’s that the point: women are not “pretending” to be something they are not. They actually are submissive because that is a feminine quality. Whether or not you have that quality or like that it exists is immaterial. This isn’t a hard concept if you’re able to take your ego out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:29 PM
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women have no need to be submissive, therefor aren’t pretending to be anymore Do you subscribe to "AWALT"...? Because the idea that all or even most women were (or even are) just "pretending" to be submissive to please men is a total fucking joke, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:06 PM
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For starts I’m attractive, That's great, really. Physically you could be a 10....you're still a 3 if you're an insufferable man-hating feminist, though. And LVM are eager to commit. High value men are absolutely not. Good luck with the whole misogyny bit. Objective facts are "misogyny" to you. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:03 PM
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I also think most women here are contrarians (who isn't on Reddit) so are inflating how much supposed "dislike" they have of man #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:57 PM
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You're going ad hominem because you have no argument. How pathetic, lol. all men are not born leaders. Nope, never said "all." I just said men make better leaders than women because of how we simply are as humans, which is very obviously demonstrably true. Die mad about it, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:09 PM
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Thankfully I know this not to be true. Keep telling yourself that being a bitch will land you a man though, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:04 PM
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That’s cool, and everyone is of course entitled to their own preferences for attraction. My only real point was just that being assertive and aggressive are inherent masculine traits. It definitely is biologically linked to testosterone. All of this is why men lead more than women, in general. Oh and also, I won’t speculate as to what women do or don’t want, but I can guarantee you that the vast majority of men want their woman to be feminine and submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:24 PM
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I think that assertiveness in men is unattractive. Im not attracted to men that are so insecure that they need to follow stereotypes to feel worth something. Insecurity is ugly. Assertiveness and aggression is very natural to men because of testosterone. It's no coincidence men fought all the wars, commit most violent crimes, etc. To be assertive *IS* a fundamental masculine trait, full-stop. To somehow jump to the conclusion that assertiveness means a man is insecure is ridiculous and laughable…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:40 PM
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To say that “men are born to lead” is an opinion of yours No, it is not. It is objective, demonstrable, and historical fact. The list of patriarchies throughout history is too long to even site. The list of matriarchies is quite short. Cultural tides are fickle and shift, but biology and natural law always wins out ultimately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:28 PM
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It’s worth mentioning that single adults are statistically the most unhappy demographic of people on earth vs. Married people with kids are the most happy, again, per the data. And I think we all know the stat about the unhappy, single 40-something year old professional women by now as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:44 AM
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Do women that want marriage applaud or support MGTOW? Nope. Same concept (I suppose, I personally have no issue with either).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:40 AM
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Based and *Christpilled, as God intended, sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:39 AM
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She would be slut shamed in her home town. Travel to “hide” it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:35 AM
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Again, it’s all about submission. Two people cannot lead in a romantic relationship, it’s just not possible. Sure, there is always compromise and give and take but men are born to lead, it’s in our DNA. Men who are passive and weak are effeminate. Women who are overly assertive and aggressive are masculine. It really is this simple. Woman # 2 is a hard pass for any high value man. He wants a woman to make his life better, not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:30 AM
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He doesn’t have to “make it a point” though, you can just see it. If he has to point it out, he’s likely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:07 AM
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Woman #1, no question, and not because she’s more attractive either. The second woman sounds like a insufferable feminist that has values that don’t align with mine, particularly not submitting to her man (as it obviously and naturally should be). Lack of submission to their men is arguably the biggest problem with modern women in the West. Also, she’s going to end up childless or possibly have a child with health issues since she’s waiting till her late 30s to (maybe) have a kid…that’s if she c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:59 AM
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I guess I should add: I look young for my age, workout often and stay in good shape, have a six-figure income, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:48 PM
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Yes, this. I’m 40 and my GF is 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:07 AM
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I’d have to check the numbers on this, but I was married for the better part of a decade and never even came close to cheating (because I didn’t want to, not for lack of options).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:06 AM
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Sex (potentially) more often with one woman vs. sex (potentially) less often with varied women Some men prefer the later, some the former, but from a "biological" perspective men are driven more towards the later (to ensure survival of his genes).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:10 AM
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Not exactly an insult considering "femcel" doesn't mean involuntary like incel does, but that's funny seeing as how "incel" or dick size is literally the only insult feminists have, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:07 AM
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Yes, but they have given up on their sexual imperative for access to more women. They are just having sex with one woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:24 PM
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And even if he meets all the objective criteria, and could still be a total douche bag. And in fact, if he’s rich chances are higher than he will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:22 PM
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So you’re admittedly a femcel. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:19 PM
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Yes, but let’s not forget feminist “empowerment” (the supposed ability to be a slut without consequence).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:15 PM
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69ers (6s that think they’re 9s), haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:13 PM
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If she wants to hang with men one-on-one she can do so, but single. This agreement works fine for my GF and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:14 AM
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That would be a shit relationship even if it were able to develop. Guy started with dishonest intentions, the woman only let him in when she wanted a quick bang. Very hard pass on all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:37 PM
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Other that my buddies' girlfriends or wives, I have no female friends. Also my GF does not have any male friends that are not similarly coupled. The point is, neither I or my GF spend _any_ time alone with a member of the opposite sex that thinks we are "friends." This is not about trust, it's about boundaries and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:22 PM
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You answered your own question: because he knows you’re having sex with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:07 PM
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My GF is 13 years younger than me. I'm 40, she's 27. Our sex life is amazing. She's highly independent, a business owner, strong willed, and opinioned...yet very feminine and sweet. I fucking love her and she's amazing. Oh, and she's not a feminist. Just felt I should put in my 2c to balance out all the supposed complaining from the "incels" in this sub. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:29 AM
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“Trudging bottom” is glorious, highly recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 08:04 PM
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Yes, and in fact I’m in love with my GF currently!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 05:54 AM
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Submissive men don’t (and have never) done it for me Or any other straight woman on the planet, AFAICT.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:32 AM
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I’m also a tits guy and have a couple exes that had amazing natural C or D cup tits (I’m not really into fake ones). I mean like porn actress perfect, really. I never had issues getting hard with other women though, no. I think this is more mental than anything. Which makes me think….is this a porn thing? Always looking for the girl with the hottest body. It’s driven by our biological imperative as males sure, but porn allows for this (fake) “access” to an unlimited amount of hot, naked women. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:21 PM
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I don’t follow. There are tons of reasons to self improve that have nothing to do with getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 09:36 PM
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You’ve got this all backwards. You improve for yourself and only for yourself! Then, if you want women you will get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:55 PM
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As opposed to what, just winging it? When has that ever worked with anything. The only men that are “naturals” had strong, masculine fathers (or at least father figures) in their upbringing. And they were unconsciously RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:43 AM
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I won’t say it doesn’t matter at all, but rather that women greatly overestimate the importance of status and (especially) education level in themselves. “Look at the career on that babe.” -No man ever
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:50 PM
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Red pill men act like men don't care about class when dating, even though they actually do. To an extent, yes. If a man is dating for an LTR or marriage then the woman will come into his world and be in his "frame." So long as there isn't a glaring difference in class she can easily just come into the role naturally. The opposite situation likely wouldn't be acceptable as the woman's family and friends would be far less accepting of a lower class man dating their higher class daughter/sister/fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:32 PM
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Men do not care about a woman’s financial status or level of education. By and large only women care about those things in men. An average looking woman that’s a 38 year old lawyer making 2x my salary is still going to lose out against a hotter 26 year old barista. I would not be dating “up” dating the lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:53 PM
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None of those sublimate your biological imperative, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:58 PM
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IMO sex addiction is like food addiction. It's harder to spot...much harder since sex is a private act and obese people are clearly obese. Also food and sex are generally healthy and good for you. Not the case with porn, it's just bad for you. There's plenty of data on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:01 PM
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Porn IS bad, full-stop. However, I am strongly against trying to legislate morality in any sense. You should be free to do whatever you want with your own body, even if it kills you (provided it doesn't hurt or kill anyone else).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:59 PM
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It very well may be a problem for women too, I don't know. I just know that it is more commonly an issue with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:57 PM
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Sure, but they both agree it is negative (was my point).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:55 PM
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Damn good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:14 PM
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It does not make men happy, though. It's a false sense of "happiness."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 11:12 PM
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I dunno, I just found it interesting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:48 PM
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Pretty fucking sad, TBH. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:47 PM
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It's not that IMO. It's more likely the fact that men perform and "give" sexually vs. women receive. If a man has ED he cannot perform. If a woman was having trouble getting wet due to watching too much porn then that would be a conversation, but I've yet to hear of that being a widespread issue. Also me are far more visual than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:46 PM
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If that's true then it's no wonder why so many modern men are fucked. We need to get TF off Pleasure Island before we're all turned into jackasses. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:36 PM
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Ok, fair enough. Not sure how that's exactly relevant to the topic. I was just adding a retort about addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:31 PM
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That's being a bit of purist with the definition of the word "addiction," but I do get your point. Yes, it is bad to be addicted to anything...but that's not really the subject of the post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:30 PM
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It cannot and will not go away because capitalism exists in the West and the old "sex sells" adage is of course VERY true....literally in this case. We may as well ask what would happen if Coke or Pepsi went away. Point is, it ain't happening... Personally, even though I am not a fan of porn I staunchly believe in individual liberty, so think porn should stay available (basically gov't should stay the TF out of our personal lives as much as possible). I know junk food is bad for me, so I just tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:25 PM
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I never understood how porn hurts your chances with women It's simple: porn and jerking off kill your testosterone, which leaves you with no drive. So it's actually worse - you don't just fail at getting women, you fail at LIFE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:14 PM
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Interesting. I haven't spoken with those types much because I'm already anti-porn. However, I'm politically (more or less) libertarian, so am VERY strongly against making anything consumable illegal: porn, drugs, junk food, etc. You are an autonomous adult human being. If "you" (one) wants to make decisions that land you in a morgue that is no one's business but your OWN. It's analogous to the "die with dignity" law IMHO - we are not free unless we have full autonomy over our own bodies. Goes fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:02 PM
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I do not watch it now, but I can say I was probably addicted to it in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:52 PM
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Hard disagree. Porn is negative, full-stop. Exercise is good, full-stop. The two are not analogous. A better analogy would be eating junk food every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:28 PM
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Tagged as NSFW because text in the /u/AskTRP link is explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:27 PM
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Thanks. :) I have a GF and do not believe in treating women badly, nor do I encourage that on this sub (or elsewhere online or IRL). I don't just blindly believe everything TRP espouses, that would be foolish. However, I've lived long enough to know that a lot (perhaps even most) of the claims it makes ring true to life. Also never heard anyone say that the data isn't legitimate until this thread, FWIW. How one reacts to the data is up to them, but it's better to know it than not IMO. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:46 PM
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Just repeating yourself. Reinforcing your point is necessary when someone is willfully not understanding what you're writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:08 PM
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u/Unicorn_GoddessBitch, I wasn't speaking with you....unless you're brigading from another account. Likely against the rules of the sub, but I don't snitch. ;P Go ahead and try and refute my points though if you can. Or dismiss me as "boring" because you can't, that's fine too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:06 PM
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REALLY bad advice about how to attract women. TRP does have bad advice on how to create and maintain a LTR or marriage with a woman, granted. The advice given in TRP is strictly about how to "spin plates" (have sex, flings, etc) because it presupposes that modern feminism has killed the opportunity for something more meaningful and longterm (which is arguably true in many, many cases). If a LTR and/or marriage are a man's goals then TRP is not the proper forum for him. So, a key tenant of TRP is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:57 PM
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If men want women they better pay attention to what women want. Once a man is in a relationship then yes, obviously he better do so. There is a tremendous difference in paying attention to what your partner (your woman, in this case) wants vs. what women in mass supposedly want in a man. Trying to do the later will make a man fail in the sexual marketplace, full-stop. ...and the later was not the subject of this post. It was how to be attractive to women initially, in a broad sense. Women that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:50 PM
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Red Pill is just a data mining scam How so exactly? What proof do you have to back up your claim that the data gathered and presented in TRP is a "scam?" There's plenty of data online and otherwise that I don't personally like or want to agree with, but my feelings on said data does not make it a "scam." If anything, one's personal interpretation of the meaning of the data is what gets murky. As I'm sure you know, that is how this sub came about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:38 PM
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u/Pretend_Teacher_1863, I did not backpedal in the slightest. Go read my thread here again from the start. You simply misinterpreted what I wrote. I never used the acronym "HVM" once until you introduced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:32 PM
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They choose to do the right things even when those choices are challenging and don't bring easy returns. That's what being solid is about and alphas are solid and reliable. Being so takes strength and courage and SACRIFICE which in the long run earns the respect, admiration, and sex appeal that only dignified and resolute alpha men deserve. Yes, I agree. ​ AGAIN, it's women that get to determine what constitutes a HVM not men. So stop trying to define what characteristics HVM have..."giving zero…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:41 AM
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I’m well aware what the purpose of the forum is. Your writing smacks of bitterness and sarcasm, so that’s why I haven't been taking it seriously, and hence my comment about taking things here less personally. And you’re saying I’m in my feels, lol. Project much? Anyhow, if you have some points to clearly make I’m happy debate with you. 😊 I’m not really seeing anything we disagree on, we’re simply not talking about the same things… My original comment was directed at men that need help with women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:23 AM
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I have no idea how you got any of the above rant from what I wrote, honestly. Perhaps you should try to make less assumptions and not to take this stuff personally. They are just objective generalizations, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:59 PM
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Within reason yes, HVM simply do what they want. I don’t have to “believe” this, no one does. Just look around, it’s obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:30 PM
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Do you disagree? Some of what I said was funny (albeit unintentionally), but not that funny...?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:08 PM
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I’m certainly not the kind that “hunts” women. Not sure what that means exactly though…they just want sex without commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:12 PM
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Hope daddy government comes and saves you soon, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:57 PM
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Lol, no lies detected
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:56 PM
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Some policies?! Haha Jokes aside, I like your stance. It’s reasonable and fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:50 PM
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Facebook and social media are fucking us all up on this. The 60-minute whistleblower lady proved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:46 PM
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Tradition though? Are you joking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:43 PM
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To the contrary, when I dated the most liberal women I have ever dated they told me time and time again that they respected me for having the balls to stand firm in my beliefs and not just placate them and tell them what they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:42 PM
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I’m a libertarian but I respect you for having the balls to openly admit on the Internet that you are a Marxist, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:38 PM
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Who does this even leave to date then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:36 PM
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I’m libertarian-leaning and a centrist as well so share your political views, it sounds like. My ex-wife was also very liberal and could not articulate her views or back them with any eloquence. It was all emotionally driven. I wouldn’t say it really caused problems in our relationship per se, but we had to just stop talking about politics essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:34 PM
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You could’ve just told us you’re an insufferable cunt, but this works too. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:12 PM
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/s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:58 PM
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I’m (mostly) Libertarian and have dated both conservative and liberal women. My views align slightly more with conservative ones, but not so much on social issues since I am very socially liberal (do whatever you want as long as it’s not hurting anyone). Mostly I can’t stand the victim mindset, angry feminism, and whole “white men are the problem” bullshit from liberal women. If she has tatts, a nose ring, and neon hair it’s an instant “no” for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 01:54 PM
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u/Mark_Freed gets it. Also, being guarded in the beginning of a relationship != being "manipulative." Both men and women do this, as they should. It's the smart way to approach a relationship. Lastly, do you know a single adult over the age of 25 that has no trust issues at all? I sure AF don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:10 PM
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Now click me! ^ in the original post above
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:36 PM
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"I DIDN'T HEAR NO BELL!" - Randy Marsh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:35 PM
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Shitposting week (I think)? loll
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:34 PM
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I know a Pareto distribution when I see one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:19 PM
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Yes, exactly. I’m 40 and my GF is 27. 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 01:24 AM
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My ex wasn't even open to adoption. I'm open to it, but want my own biological kids first. I am dating an amazing woman now. Took about a year to get here, but I'm happy again. Not putting too much on the relationship with my GF, just taking it day by day. She really is incredible though. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:33 PM
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Just a for-example. I'm glad to hear it isn't an issue in Europe, because apparently in the States it is and it's fucking ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:31 PM
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She decided she “could not” (read: would not) have children. That was a deal breaker for me, so we got divorced. Understand, we had already decided on having kids when we married 10 years ago, but this slowly changed over the years. She had mental health issues and a lot of difficulty loving herself too, which also lead to our divorce. Of course I was also to blame in some ways, I can’t put everything on her. The pain was fucking unreal, but I don’t regret anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:10 PM
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Love yourself, king! It's the best thing we can do for ourselves! :) I had to get past my own hangups about positivity being trite and stupid, it was hurting my emotional and mental health. Even if it's bullshit (and it's not, but still) I'd rather be deluded and happy vs. a (supposedly) realistic, yet miserable nihilist. Existence really and truly is what you make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:21 PM
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Difficult questions. I have no real answers, and I'm not sure who does, if anyone. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:17 PM
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Maybe it's just a hangover from my years of BP conditioning, but I still want to believe a relationship can evolve past this shit....to the point where two people that really and truly love each other can just be vulnerable, honest, and transparent with each other most of the time (but likely not all of the time). If you're having sex (the most intimate physical act two people can do) it stands to reason that this is possible....but I think that trust still has to be earned, slowly. Honest to Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:13 PM
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Interesting. And you still believe in it or no? Some of it? BTW, my take on TRP wasn't directed at you per se, I just thought I'd offer my interpretation of it for anyone here in the sub willing to read it, lol. I am of the humble opinion that, as I was saying, TRP is not a monolith and we can all have our own respective interpretations of it. This is met with pushback by some, but that needs to change if the ideology is going to grow and evolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:01 PM
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Tell that to the feminists crying about how women in their 20's can't be trusted to have a relationship with a man that is more than what, 5 years older than she is? Why is that? Because they supposedly have the mental / emotional capacity of child, so are in danger of being "groomed." Again, according to feminists. Never mind the scientific fact that the human brain is 100% fully developed by 25 at the latest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:50 PM
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I struggle even now to not give beautiful girls compliments on their appearance. I love how they look and I used to think they would like heartfelt compliments. But that is wrong, most of the time it will hurt your chances. This is 100%. true...in the dating/courting phase. However, once you are starting to get into BF/GF territory it is a good thing to compliment your woman's looks. Some good advice I read was "give her this kind of attention when she is giving you what you want first" - meanin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:46 PM
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I mean just look at this forum, it is less if red pill is right or not, but how right the red pill is anymore. https://c.tenor.com/gZpu6Unk0DwAAAAM/amen-anchorman.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:34 PM
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Fair enough. However there is ample data on how communication style differs between men and women. It’s not a theory: we know for absolute certain that men communicate more directly and women do so more indirectly and lean on emotion and intuition more than men. This is not a bad thing, though! Until we start embracing and leveraging our differences we are going to have trouble communicating. That starts with just acknowledging their existence. The “men and women are the same” lie needs to stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:28 PM
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Interested to hear your interpretation of TRP, /u/xQueen-Bx 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:20 PM
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Lol, anytime! Most women just don’t get TRP because of personal biases/emotion, so I’m glad to help. 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:19 PM
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…and, no offense but it sounds like you’re projecting a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:17 PM
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Well, I never used the word “normal” because that’s disingenuous on its face, isn’t it. It is subjective, but when you know your partner you obviously know if they are mentally and emotionally stable…or not. It’s not that tough to figure out given enough time, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:16 PM
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Don't mean to sound snarky at all, but we take it as a given that people in the sub know these terms. TRP = "the red pill"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:08 PM
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Important distinction, yes. I was just going with the name of the sub, /r/RelationshipAdvice. They are two very different things! Edited my comment, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:02 PM
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I see, thanks. Even though I'm a RP guy I can't fully agree with the "women get wet for dark triad traits" thing. Narcissism maybe, but women are turned on by a fucking psychopathy....really?! Perhaps it can work, but it's extremely contextual.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:59 PM
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I have never found this to be true with healthy women that have self-esteem and love themselves. However, I have been with mentally and emotionally unstable/unhealthy women and that was likely the case for them, sure. I can't be with later though, IDGAF how good the sex is (and it can be amazing, but still).....is it not worth it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:51 PM
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I have a girlfriend. She's 27 and I'm (newly) 40. I do just fine, thanks. :) ...but go off and take what I wrote here personally for no reason, it's amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:48 PM
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Sorry, but this is some simp shit, lol. Once I’m your BF sure, I will be thoughtful and attune to your wants and needs. But I’m not trying to “impress” women. She needs to impress me, if anything. I’m just gonna do me and if she’s not impressed then oh well, IDC. All this is just at the onset when first dating, of course. Still don’t believe in trying to “impress” a woman though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:30 AM
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Not true. I’m (mostly) RP and that’s the kind of women I go for: professional, driven women. After all, NAMALT, right 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:24 AM
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Sorry, but what is a “LARP”…a fake post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:22 AM
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Which is…?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:21 AM
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What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:19 AM
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TRP talks about this plenty, trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:14 AM
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TRP is an oversimplified list of tenants drawn from observed behavior of primarily women, but also men. It’s seen as a monolith and in theory it is, but in practice it really isn’t. The whole idea of “X will be true 100% of the time when Y is false” is of course ridiculously oversimplified. Anyone that has the smallest bit of life experience knows that isn’t how it works... And yet the overarching idea is “study the data, learn from it and adapt.” This IS very much a worthwhile pursuit, in datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:11 AM
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Still not seeing why this would “feel” like asshole behavior….at all. This sounds like normal and healthy masculinity to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:01 AM
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You have issues, but you’re funny, lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:58 AM
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We all know she won’t leave. Why would she? Because some self-righteous women on Reddit told her to? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:53 AM
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I do have a lot of experience with women and I can tell you that won’t work. The whole “be yourself” thing is operating under the premise that your “self” is already good to go - that he’s not a needy, pathetic, socially awkward loser. It is bullshit advice that needs to stop. Tons of men DO need to work on themselves and we’re doing them a disservice by lying to them and saying they don’t. While I do fine with women, I still count myself among this number, understand. After all, I’m on Reddit s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:50 AM
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100% true. Straight men should almost never take relationship advice advice on how to attract women from other women, it is typically blue-pill wishful thinking trash. The only exception I can think of is to gain insight into their thought process, but even then you have to take it with a grain of salt. To be fair, this isn’t really women’s “fault” - they don’t give bad advice on purpose (IMO), but the psychology is just different. They tell you how they think it “should” be, not how it actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:37 AM
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Far too many people conflate being an “asshole” and/or being a “bad boy” with confidence - they are not the same thing, they just happen to overlap frequently… To be authentically and unapologetically yourself is the start, but it’s not enough to make you attractive. The meek 25 y/o virgin guy is being himself, but his self just sucks! As a man you must also be assertive, bold, aggressive, firm in your beliefs….basically just do what you want and give zero fucks. That’s not being an “asshole” th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:31 AM
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"If you pursue impulsive pleasure, to the detriment of the development of your character, you're going to end up a slave to a tyrant". https://youtu.be/Azy3iXnpbmc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:44 PM
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Men are being tricked into porn and video game addiction, all the while chugging mountain dew and eating taco bell. I know this sounds harsh, but I say it out of love - we men need to man the fuck up already and stop falling for this boyish bullshit! Not that video games are bad per se (porn is IMO - different topic), but being addicted to anything IS very much negative. The irony here being that women hate it when men are this way too. So many modern men are trapped on "pleasure island" (as in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:28 PM
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I'd argue that once she has slept with the man she definitely loses some of her power over him, if not all of it. As amazing as it is, the "new pussy" effect can and does wear off pretty quickly IME. After that I'm not sticking around unless I am actually really into her as a person and see a relationship forming. Perhaps it's cold, but if sex is all she has to offer then I'm gonna take it and bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 06:23 PM
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True, but let's not kid ourselves and say that women want sex as much as men - in general, they do not. Not sure why this is triggering for some RP men, it's literally written in The Rational Male.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:47 PM
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In order to post I have to disagree with you, so heregoes... As much as I dislike the argument ("we're all special and unique" lol) this one falls under the ole "NAWALT." Some women just want sex. Granted, not very many, but there a select few that just want strings-free sex. I had one for a couple months and it was a fucking blast, pun intended. Did I mention she was an ex-stripper? ;) Damn that was fun...but actually, you know how it ended - she caught feelings (and didn't like my friends). Ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:44 PM
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Thanks! I find it fascinating that so many cultures all over the world value chastity. That's how you know there really is something to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:24 PM
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It'd be interesting to see the data on this, either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:17 PM
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It's possible, who knows. I don't judge, I just try and find the data and interpret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:16 PM
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she said she wanted to wait before and after marriage, I'd just be surprised. If you live in America, there are indeed Christian women that are virgins and waiting until marriage. I've dated two of them within the past year. Both were in their mid-20s. Yes, it's uncommon, but not unheard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:12 PM
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The last bit is the biggest concern, agree. What country, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:10 PM
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TL;DR - Be on the same life path as the person you want to partner up with long-term. I am not a virgin (but have a relatively low n-count) and I have no kids (but want them), so that's the kind of woman I pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:08 PM
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It's going to depend on the man. If he really wants a virgin for marriage then he should do so, yes. I mean, he really has no other choice, at least if he's not going to be a hypocrite, assuming he is not a virgin himself. Personally, I'd rather date a woman that is not a virgin but that I see as reasonably vitreous, discerning, and has a low n-count. We have sex and she's my GF. If that all works out, we can start looking at marriage. That's where I am with my current GF. Would I do this for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:05 PM
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No offense, but aren't these definitions in the sidebar or something? If not, they should be... A "Chad" is the highly attractive guy that women put out for quickly and easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:50 PM
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You're not wrong per se, but the overwhelming majority of couples make it work sexually. From a physical perspective, most male & female genitalia fit together just fine. Working out the rest (sexual likes vs dislikes, emotional wants/needs) may or may not come naturally or easily, but it definitely can be done. For example, I know a Christian couple that married at 20 and had a physical intimacy issue...he literally could not fit inside her at first. However, 15 years later they are still happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:47 PM
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Top comment, right here. We don't want to be taken for a fool. Best example would be when a woman has another man's kid, then makes the BF or husband think it's his. This is a man's worst nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:28 PM
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No, it's not "wrong" at all. Most men would love to have a virgin for marriage or even a LTR, but it's just not a realistic expectation in 2021. That said, I have dated two women in their 20s that were virgins and waiting for marriage, so it does still happen. From my view, only feminism is pushing the narrative that it's "wrong" for a woman to want to stay a virgin until marriage, supposedly because they want women to be "empowered" (read: have your cake and eat it too - have sex with whomever …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 06:26 PM
1

I’m very close with my buddies and we share most everything, but I don’t live with them. It’s intimate, but not as intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:57 PM
3

It’s completely possible to be a strong, independent woman and not be an insufferable bitch. That’s really all most men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:05 AM
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I can only speak for me, but I am actually for women working and being free to do whatever they want…yet I am an anti-feminist. I am against women trying to “be” men and competing with their own man, but I am for women working and making their own way in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:04 AM
1

True, and it works both ways. It’s fucked up though and clearly toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:18 AM
0

“If you laugh the world laughs with you, but if you cry, you cry alone.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:13 PM
1

King mentality, right here. Keep it up, OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:12 PM
0

I think men tend to overestimate the amount of importance women place on looks (for men) because it is how we operate. It’s not the same, gents.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:09 PM
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I’m a 7/10, maybe a 8/10 on my best days. However, the women I date are always a 7 or higher (in my eyes, at least) and yes, hard agree with OP on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 07:07 PM
3

I definitely agree. Some women can barely get themselves off. How you can expect someone else to be able to make you orgasm if you can’t even make yourself orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 06:20 PM
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adapting to the situation in a practical way, in order to get what one values. Exactly this ^
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 07:09 PM
1

I know, right. And he's not blue-pilled or liberal either. Not sure how they make it work TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:32 PM
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You need to look out for yourself first, yes. Doesn’t mean you have to be an asshole, though. I’d say this can even be true for women in relationships, but it’s especially true for men. If you’re not worth following she will leave. Don’t chase money, women, etc. Chase excellence!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:47 AM
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This is so true. How many women read those “romance” novels for exactly this….so many.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:37 AM
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I was scrolling through Netflix with some friends last weekend and we saw this show listed. I called the main character a whore, and one of my buddies girlfriends got all offended… And I was like “what, she is a whore!” I’d read enough about the show online to know. Women are going to held accountable for their actions or the West is going to fucking crumble. Shit like this is why “slut shaming” is actually a GOOD thing and will never die out, no matter how much they try.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:33 AM
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RP men still want relationships with women and most (IMO) actually do not hate women. MGTOW do not want that and largely do hate women, or are mostly indifferent to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:51 PM
2

I had lived this - I know it is mostly true from multiple personal experiences. I have been both the Alpha-seed "Chad" and fucked her on the first date, and the Beta-bucks "Brad" who was made to wait for sex for weeks or months, or never got it from her (religious girls saving their virginity for marriage). ....however, I'm a bit conflicted on TRP view of the AWOLT stance here because it feels like there's a bit of cognitive dissonance in it: "all women should fuck you by the 3rd or 4th date" & …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:57 PM
2

I only care insofar as it affects me personally, TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:12 PM
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Yep, as a dude I'll admit it's true. My ex had natural DD's and she was thin and weighed about 120 lbs. And yes, they were glorious, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 12:04 AM
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Doesn't matter. Hypergamy is what it is and this will not change. "A Zebra cannot change its stripes."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 11:02 PM
1

I can definitely agree. Thank you!
/r/askTRP24/06/21 12:35 AM
1

u/UEMcGill, I also strongly believe that children are best raised in a stable, married, two-parent household, so that is the other half of my reasoning on this.
/r/askTRP23/06/21 05:50 PM
1

I'm Christian, so essentially yes. I don't like the term "religious" as that's not what following Christ is truly about, but that's another topic entirely.
/r/askTRP23/06/21 05:48 PM
1

Would I get married again? No. Not worth it, and I could have had kids anyway. Ok, so here's the thing. I wouldn't get married again either, except I want to have children and believe this is the one-and-only right way to do it.
/r/askTRP23/06/21 04:35 PM
0

True, divorce for men that retain custody of their kids is probably emotionally easier (yet financially harder) for men -vs- men like me that were divorced without children. Of course I can only speak from experience on the later, but when it's just you and her your wife is your entire "family," at least the only immediate family that you live with, in my case. All that to say that if I were divorced with kids my biggest concern would be protecting my finances and keeping (at least partial) cust…
/r/askTRP23/06/21 04:33 PM
0

If Will Smith and Brad Pitt can't keep chicks in check, why do you think you can? This is kind of a poor analogy though, isn't it. Hollywood is obligatorily blue-pilled AF. Also, their wives are spoiled princesses that likely unhappy and restless by default. Otherwise I very much agree with everything you said. Thanks for the feedback.
/r/askTRP23/06/21 04:29 PM
1

Very good point indeed, thanks
/r/askTRP22/06/21 02:55 AM
1

u/BranchCovidianZealot. Tons of women in liberal cities in the western United States (west coast / mountain west) do not want children. Just look on any of the dating apps, it’s extremely common.
/r/askTRP22/06/21 02:54 AM
1

This is fantastic feedback! Thank you!!
/r/askTRP22/06/21 02:53 AM
1

Agree! Thanks
/r/askTRP22/06/21 02:51 AM
2

Interesting, thanks. It's all perspective, I suppose. My parents are still married and although they of course fight on occasion, I truly believe they are still happy...after nearly 45 years. I know that doesn't exactly align with RP philosophy, but personally I think what's more important than anything is being able to think for yourself.
/r/askTRP21/06/21 04:18 PM
1

I had a very similar situation with my ex-wife, OP. She's a Latina, also from a conservative, Christian family. I married her at 26 and we just divorced last year. At 26 she was an absolute fucking stunner, I mean a legit dime-piece 10 (at least in my eyes). Gorgeous face, thin with a perky natural D rack and an amazing ass. She still looks good, don't get me wrong, but I had her her prime for sure. Your attitude is correct and IMHO the only one to have. It will get easier, hang in there brother…
/r/askTRP21/06/21 03:50 PM
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There's obvious practicality in having someone at home looking after children, cooking, cleaning etc. This is the one and ONLY way I would ever get married again, let alone financially care for a woman.
/r/askTRP16/06/21 08:35 PM
2

and it ain't for everyone, vasectomy. Freeze sperm first of course to give yourself the chance to change your mind. A vasectomy is reversible as well.
/r/askTRP16/06/21 08:34 PM
1

The whole “no business doing so” (playing hard to get) is an extremely subjective call on YOUR part, not hers or anyone else’s. Take your ego out of it if you want to get laid.
/r/askTRP12/06/21 05:48 PM
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This is true, but it’s still true that all women want to have fun and want a guy that is fun to be with. It can be other activities on dates like ice skating, putt putt golf, whatever, doesn’t matter.
/r/askTRP30/05/21 02:47 PM
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You spelled “unfazed” wrong, so I have my doubts about that, lol.
/r/askTRP22/05/21 09:34 PM
1

Everyone in the F&B (food & beverage) industry fucks each other and does drugs, FACTS. loll
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:26 PM
1

Absolutely agree! Just gotta be sure the heart isn't trying to pull you into some dumb shit, so I always try and use my head to keep it in check....sometimes easier said than done!
/r/seduction13/05/21 04:18 AM
1

I do agree, but it depends on how hot she is, and more importantly, the level of shit-test. Too many women do them to rule them out entirely IMO.
/r/seduction13/05/21 03:54 AM
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Hey u/TheOffice_Account, fellow Alabamian here! I grew up down there, but moved away several years ago. You're absolutely correct - you have to have a big enough "pond" to fish from! Sadly there's only B'Ham and HSV, and those are still quite small by comparison to ATL. I loved living in Nashville....seems to be a ton of hot young women living there! PS: Roll Tide Roll ;)
/r/seduction13/05/21 03:51 AM
1

I think setting expectations is a good thing, especially considering that when a person (typically the man) pays for the date the expectation of sex can be there (or sexual favors, oral, etc), even if they shouldn't be. That last bit is beyond the scope of this discussion IMO. And I'm a Red Pill guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:36 PM
3

Hmm, interesting. Where does this stat come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:50 PM
1

Put your hands on her upper neck (though her hair is even better) and cradle her head when you kiss her. Grab her waist and pull her to you. Press her up against the wall, fridge, whatever immovable object. Basically display dominance, but be sexy about it, not rapey. Obviously this only works once physical intimacy has already been initiated, so escalate with making out, tickling, etc, first.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:49 PM
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To clarify, I meant women in their 20's, so yes, they are quite rare. Not sure how/why porn has anything to do with the fact that most people (in America) have lost their virginity by their early 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:37 AM
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Hmm, and what if she says she's a virgin? What does that insinuate, if anything? Yes, they are extremely rare, but serious question, BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:37 PM
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Just stop jerking off and quit porn entirely - you'll be fine after this IMO.
/r/askTRP06/05/21 01:49 PM
1

No, financial aid counselor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:31 PM
1

Simple, different industries. Hers is public sector higher education vs tech (mine).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:10 PM
1

The billionaires need to be paying their fair share down to these workers somehow. That's a whole different can of worms I don't even want to get into, lol. I'll just say that if we deindicivize hard work, the fabric of society WILL unravel. This has been proven time and time again. This is why capitalism works and more socialistic economic models do not (that's not to say that social programs don't work - they do). But again, different can of worms!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:20 PM
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Women aren't going into hauling physical loads unless they are tough as nails and can handle it. It was meant as an analogy, not to be taken literally. Women are often going into things they do well. As they should and should encouraged to do! My mother was a teacher, my grandmother a nurse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:16 PM
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Why should she be baseline worse off than you She's not, and I didn't imply she "should" be. Women have all the effective freedoms and liberties of men in the US. In this regard, feminism actually has worked. Again, women can be just as successful and wealthy as men, should they choose to work as hard, most just don't. Lastly, men are generally more competitive than women. It shouldn't come as a shock that women are competing with men in the workforce for position and pay and will be treated acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:14 PM
1

I have no idea. I can only speak for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:30 PM
1

…that said I do believe that we can strive for equal opportunity, and yes, we are doing so in Western society. However, equality of opportunity does not mean equal outcome. Just because you get the job interview doesn’t mean you get the job. You still have to be qualified and work hard. This is why the “gender pay gap” is overblown and largely a myth. If you have a 400 pound workhorse that hauls 80% of the load, and a 150 pound workhorse that hauls the other 20% of the load, you don’t give them …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:33 PM
1

Speaking from personal experience, women in the US are more than adequately taken care of by the family courts in case of a divorce. I was married for almost a decade and divorced just this year. My ex-wife, although completely amicable, was legally entitled to 50% of my net worth. She is getting roughly $100k out of the divorce, while I get nothing because my income was about 2x of hers for the duration of our marriage. Do note that we never had kids and she worked full-time the entire time we …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:25 PM
1

Where do you get off demanding women bring half the salary? Please re-read anything I’ve posted here (or elsewhere) and tell me exactly where I made such a “demand.” I did not, nor will I ever. That would be an unreasonable ask. In general, men make more money than women because they work harder and are more career driven...again, in general. As such, it follows that men contribute more to the bread-winning while women contribute more to housekeeping. This is fair and equitable by anyone’s stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 05:19 PM
1

I don't think we're on the same page. I'm not talking about keeping women in cages FFS. I'm just talking about men and women playing to their natural strengths. To think that we are "beyond nature now in this advanced society" is delusional and based in hubris and ego. Although we have evolved, we are still high-order mammals, even if we are spiritual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 01:13 PM
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I agree with you that we can and should hold our partners to higher standards, u/PokePrincess95! I do not agree that we have evolved past our basic instincts and primal natures, for better or for worse. However, perhaps one day we will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 01:10 PM
1

No, I vehemently disagree. You're speaking from personal experience and emotion (and BTW sorry you've had a bad experience with men, really). I'm speaking from observable, historically recorded fact. "True egalitarianism" hasn't been reached because it cannot be reached, nor should it be. The fact that Western society is striving for it is ridiculous because ultimately, nature always wins, 10/10 times. Trying to go against it is not only foolish, it's perilous and self-destructive. Men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 04:51 AM
1

Traditionally women kept house and men were the sole breadwinners. Because of feminism women "won" the right to work (seems more of a loss IMO, but anyhow) and so now are expected to. However, the social dynamics that underpin our history are still there albeit muted - women are more nurturing and caring than men. Always have been, always will be. Women have natural "nesting" instincts, especially strong when with child. So yes, women are still expected to keep the house up. Perhaps one day when…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:33 AM
1

Other than having children, I can't think of a reason for women to marry either. It really does work both ways, but women typically want marriage more than men (stronger social conditioning, need for acceptance, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:24 AM
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Grown men don't want a maid, but they won't tolerate a princess that won't lift a finger either. Lots of modern women are entitled to the point of thinking they will put in zero effort into running a household and still reap all the provisioning of a husband, all the while either not working or only working part-time. There's a name for that family member: a CHILD.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:21 AM
1

Your assumption is predicated on the (false) belief that women will date and marry men that make less money than them - they will not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:13 AM
1

More and more young people don't want to have children, and as a result, more and more young men are seeing marriage for the financial mistake that it all-too-often is. The reason that having children helps ensure the success of a marriage is that both partners are (hopefully) committed to raising the children. So at a minimum, you're locked in for 18 years. In a childless marriage, no such commitment exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:09 AM
1

Also in the US, common-law marriage can take effect when you live with your partner for a long enough time. It varies from state-to-state, but TMK all states have such laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:05 AM
0

Women do not date, let alone marry men that make less money than them. Socioeconomics are everything, especially for upper-class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:58 AM
1

Other than the tax breaks (which are FAR outweighed by the financial risk incurred by the partner making more money - usually the man), you've made no argument for marriage, only lifelong partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:54 AM
1

There are no other reasons, IMO. Other than to guarantee provisioning for my children, why on earth would I willingly financially handcuff myself to my partner? I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 02:52 AM
2

I’m taking a month long break from drinking and it’s helping me a lot.
/r/askTRP11/04/21 03:07 PM
1

Not quite that simple, she has mental health issues. Also, it could've gone exactly the same way if we'd just been in an LTR for that amount of time. I loved her very much and did not want to believe that she wouldn't have children (even after she had told me as much), so it's partially on me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:13 PM
1

Having been married to an incredible woman for about a decade, I have to actually disagree. We divorced because she changed her mind on wanting kids. I'm Christian, so the likelihood of me finding a Christian woman that's willing to have not only sex, but children outside of marriage is incredibly slim...effectively zero. But of course that's just me. I'm most likely going to get a prenup next time, and I'm damn sure going to get her to sign something saying she will have children. abusive wives…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:51 PM
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I think you’re wise not to get married, unless you want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:31 AM
1

Other than kids, why would a divorced man have more baggage? I’d think the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:30 AM
2

Of course, 10/10 times. I'm not fathering any children that are not biologically mine. Now, I want to have kids of my own, but I still say dating single mothers is a horrible idea.
/r/askTRP07/04/21 03:54 PM
2

You wouldn't know what he thinks on the first date. I've slept with women on the first date and I said nothing about any topic like this. The last one I chose not to date again, the one before that I kept dating, but only as a FWB (which she was fine with for awhile). His point is valid - most men do not want an "easy" woman for a LTR or (God forbid) marriage. The issue is not about women having a "big libido." Believe me, every man very, very much WANTS his woman to have tremendous libido! Howe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:37 PM
1

I have not found this to be true, but of course who really knows. Like the username, BTW. NIN is one of my favorites and TDS was legit life-changing for me!
/r/askTRP04/04/21 04:45 PM
1

If you don't want an LTR Right, and I agree. But if you do want a LRT...? Another thing that TRP doesn't really address is how much pressure you take off of yourself by just not caring if you get laid or not. In turn, you will likely actually have an easier time getting laid. I'm serious, try it!
/r/askTRP04/04/21 04:44 PM
1

As soon as she told me she used to be an "exotic dancer" I knew her body-count was through the roof. Then, a few weeks later, she just flat out told me it was so high she stopped even keeping up.
/r/askTRP03/04/21 08:45 PM
1

Well, beauty is subjective, but I don't know any heterosexual male that thinks women in their 40's are hotter than women in their 20's. That alone proves that "the wall" is very real and essentially all women "hit" it, yes. Hypergamy and AWALT are harder to call.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:33 PM
1

Lmao
/r/askTRP01/04/21 11:16 PM
2

My man here gets it!
/r/askTRP01/04/21 11:15 PM
1

they veer off to something completely different, which is where RP theory starts. For example?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:51 PM
1

Serious answer: look for Christian women bro
/r/askTRP01/04/21 03:31 PM
19

That’s one big cognitive dissonance that does not at all sit well with me for TRP. “All women are sluts and should bang by the 3rd date” vs. “don’t accept a slut for marriage or a LTR.” I want kids, so this doesn’t work for me.
/r/askTRP01/04/21 03:30 PM
6

The downside is that women with a higher notch-count might feel more sexually “free” and, as a result, be easier to please in bed. Just an observation though.
/r/askTRP01/04/21 03:28 PM
3

But also it kept women from spreading their legs for just any ole dude, so yeah, it wasn’t all bad I’d say. Why do you think Muslim countries are still doing the same shit to this day. It’s no coincidence...
/r/askTRP01/04/21 03:26 PM
3

As always, don’t trust what a woman says, but look for actions that tell her truth. For instance, I dated a chick last fall and she let me fuck her on the first date. Come to find out she was a stripper just a few years ago, has had abortions, done three-ways, etc, etc. And yep, surprise surprise, her body count is super high. Oddly enough, she was still pretty “tight” (but she’s not a big girl), so I’m not sure that actually a good indicator. It won’t always be that obvious, but a little “detec…
/r/askTRP01/04/21 03:21 PM
21

This is extremely sound advice! I talk to women friends (mostly GFs or wives of my buddies) as much as I can about this stuff. They freakin LOVE to “help” you with your love life, haha
/r/askTRP01/04/21 03:18 PM
1

They also actively subscribe to the whole alfa/beta bullshit, which is so horribly dumbing down how people work, and still getting it wrong. Alpha and beta trails are real and observable, though. Sigma too, just less common. Anyhow, IMO these are always in a state of flux and are also somewhat conditional - no one is 100% alpha or 100% beta. Lastly, being able to think for yourself is the mark of a true alpha so no, don't just believe something in TRP (or anywhere) at just face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:17 PM
1

u/charlesdickinsideme, You're 18. You've barely figured out how your dick works, kid. Like I said, you'll get there. Keep your straggly little chin up, bucko.
/r/seduction30/03/21 07:56 PM
1

Right, no one else was there, exactly. I 100% welcome any constructive criticism that isn’t something ad-hominem. However, If I’m “triggered” it’s only because I don’t like people generalizing and using the AWALT (all women are like that) cop-out. Again, you weren’t there. I don’t want to believe that women are all liars, but several people here are saying that they usually are.
/r/seduction30/03/21 12:56 PM
0

Haha, ok bud, sure. You’ll figure it out some day. Or not. Good luck out there.
/r/seduction30/03/21 12:42 PM
0

Let me do you a favor, honestly. Watch this: https://youtu.be/vblot9RiULI
/r/seduction29/03/21 10:12 PM
1

“Listen to the fish. They’ll tell you how to catch them.” < your logic. Unplug from the blue-pill, feminist horseshit, bro. It’s fucking non-sense.
/r/seduction29/03/21 10:09 PM
11

The goal is not women. The goal is LIFE
/r/askTRP29/03/21 08:49 PM
3

"la la la" *fingers in ears*
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:53 PM
1

No. Stop living in fear. Live your fucking life. No apologies. No excuses. That's what TRP is!
/r/askTRP29/03/21 07:50 PM
2

Yes, AKA "dopamine detox."
/r/askTRP29/03/21 07:48 PM
0

Exactly this. Go over to MGTOW.
/r/askTRP29/03/21 07:46 PM
25

we don't want to come across as creepy Dude, FUCK. THIS. SHIT ^ Stop giving AF what people think about you, especially women! That is pussy replant. That is beta AF.
/r/askTRP29/03/21 07:44 PM
1

There was no "tryharding" (not a word, BTW) flirting coming from me whatsoever. I was just going about my business at Costco. Once she hinted that she was going to "tackle" me and told me how young I looked, _then_ I started casually joking with her back.
/r/seduction29/03/21 07:29 PM
1

Porn and video games is my best guess.
/r/askTRP29/03/21 05:53 PM
1

At least for a one night stand or something. Maybe she's not easy. Shocker I know, but again, not all women are like you and have had the same experience as you.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:49 PM
1

Thank you, honestly. I didn't expect to get put on trial here, but apparently some women here seem offended that I did this. Reddit is fucking bullshit sometimes, I swear.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:45 PM
2

OP needs his eyes opened to the truth that a woman joking isn't flirting. I don't care what you or any other women say about how to approach women. I'm not asking the fish for advice on catching fish, sweetheart. Again, you're clearly biased. You weren't there, you don't know what happened. You're talking out of your ass and making assumptions and generalities.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:43 PM
1

You weren't there, so you have no idea. That's just your confirmation bias.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:38 PM
1

We're clearly not on the same page, but that's ok.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:30 PM
0

Bro, I did not say that. Check the thread above. Again, I'm not a ONS guy TBH. My only point in this thread was that the "never hit on a woman working" thing is bullshit and (shock and awe) it's mostly only women saying it here. Is it generally a great idea? Probably not. But that doesn't mean you should never do it! You gotta play it by ear IMO.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:28 PM
1

Ok, fair enough. I didn't mean to say that you're a stripper (exotic dancer), BTW (not that there's anything wrong with that). My point was just that they DO get paid to be nice to men and flirt with them, so obviously it's an act and just part of the job. Thanks again for the perspective, really. :)
/r/seduction29/03/21 04:24 PM
1

That's fine, that's your preference. This isn't like a stripper or even a bartender that is being paid to be nice to men. If you are, I totally understand why you'd get tired of men hitting on you. If you work at Costco, ehh, maybe not so much. Entirely different demographic. Also, instead of just making blanket generalizations about what "should" be done, you really have be there to know how the interaction went down. Regardless, I think this is an intrinsic perspective difference between men a…
/r/seduction29/03/21 04:19 PM
1

Yes, I did believe her.
/r/seduction29/03/21 04:13 PM
1

Until she compliments your physical She did. She told me I look very young for my age, younger than her. At any rate, I can appreciate your feedback, but I still think it's better as a man to be confident and, if she's not actively working (she wasn't), go ahead and ask for her number. It takes a few seconds and I am 99% sure it didn't make her uncomfortable.
/r/seduction29/03/21 04:12 PM
0

You sound like a simp and a white-knight, bud. In case you're unaware, you will never get laid that way.
/r/seduction29/03/21 03:21 PM
1

I was absolutely, 100% respectful, believe me. I am a gentleman. If she was lying, she can think on her feet extremely well and has an amazing poker face. I told her about fostering a dog, she told me she loves dogs and wants to do the same later in life when she has time. She hugged me before I left FFS. Are women really this good at lying...!?! Jesus
/r/seduction29/03/21 03:08 PM
1

Kinda what I was thinking, lol
/r/seduction29/03/21 03:05 PM
6

Thanks. And yes, you're right. Kind of sick of OLD (online date) after seeing a couple scammers/catfishers lately, so I was feeling inspired, lol ;)
/r/seduction29/03/21 03:03 PM
3

Thanks, /u/Marilla1957. This is the kind of helpful feedback I was hoping to see here! :)
/r/seduction29/03/21 03:02 PM
2

That's ridiculous. She was cute, like a 7 I'd say. WIthout going into too much detail, the city she mentioned is basically a "sister city" of where I live, so that was already believable, but it would be WAY more believable to just say she had a boyfriend.
/r/seduction29/03/21 02:54 PM
2

Absolutely, thanks
/r/seduction29/03/21 02:52 PM
2

I did think of that, but I already had plans for last night. Good call for sure though, yes.
/r/seduction29/03/21 02:51 PM
-5

If this wasn’t flirting then I’m the prince of Wales. You tell people you’re going to “tackle” them...? I’ve worked a ton of customer service jobs too.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:16 AM
1

“Tackle” means for grab someone and pull them to the ground, like in American football.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:14 AM
0

I’m not a big ONS guy, but you’re right.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:13 AM
7

Ok, then why not just say “I have a boyfriend”...that’s way easier than “I’m moving” then telling even more detailed lies to back it up.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:12 AM
2

It’s my regular Costco. I will see her again if she doesn’t move without a doubt...
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:11 AM
14

Not going to argue about the games men play. How bout you date men for... 3 years then tell me what men do. There it is.
/r/seduction29/03/21 12:57 AM
25

No, I'm almost certain she was being honest. If she wasn't she has an uncanny ability to make up details on the spot.
/r/seduction29/03/21 12:55 AM
4

Nice assumptions. Says more about you than anything. I.e. you're a clueless fuckwit that has zero idea of my SMV, her SMV, or what occurred.
/r/seduction29/03/21 12:54 AM
5

You should be appreciative of her doing what men do. But you're insinuating that she was lying. That's not just "what men do," so I don't follow.
/r/seduction29/03/21 12:38 AM
36

Good call, I just didn't think of that in the moment. Thanks
/r/seduction29/03/21 12:37 AM
11

Her story was very fleshed out if she was lying. And if she didn't want me to ask for her number, why was she so clearly flirting with me?
/r/seduction29/03/21 12:37 AM
1

I just want to post back to update - I've stopped drinking and I actually feel A LOT better!! It's worth trying!
/r/askTRP28/03/21 10:28 PM
1

Also, when she asked I told her that my girfriend doesnt do that and you can do whatever you want your a grownup but if you do that Im fair game too to go see other girls she got butthurt Did i respond correctly? Yes. At least you did this right and stood up for yourself. Respect yourself, bro! This girl is a slut, full-stop. Cut the LTR immediately and DO NOT go back!
/r/askTRP28/03/21 06:05 PM
2

"Can't turn a hoe into a housewife." Bail dude. Sorry
/r/askTRP28/03/21 05:52 PM
0

I can see how they may be creating a self fulfilling prophecy; if you threaten or scare enough women, they will start seeing a “protector” as an attractive partner. This statement, on its face, is laughable and demonstrably false. Women don't prefer tall men, strong men? Women prefer shorter, weaker men? What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:47 PM
3

Redpill treats women as commodities to be manipulated and obtained. That's a strange take on TRP. I didn't get that from reading "The Rational Male" at all. However, I don't subscribe to or pay attention to TRP post from random strangers online, so </shrug>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:38 PM
2

Does "cringe" in your mind equal truthful statements that you don't want to hear, /u/Xintani2 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:36 PM
1

To think that you must go about hurting women first, because if you don’t, women will hurt you. There seems to be a mass delusion in this group that “logical” means “emotional”. On account of the obsessive hatred, they seem to be incapable of any logic at all. OP, first of all, I'm sorry for what happened to you. However, your statements here demonstrate that you do not understand Red Pill philosophy at all. MGTOW guys are guilty of your second point, but RP men are not. Every RP man I know love…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:31 PM
3

I know a woman that is very conventionally attractive and was a stripper only a couple years ago...but she’s an alcoholic and a LVW. Point is, they can be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:03 PM
2

My sex life is MUCH better, I can last longer in bed, and I’m much more “in the moment” and in-tune with my woman.
/r/askTRP23/03/21 04:07 PM
1

Best advice I think: separate yourself from people and things that enable your drinking.
/r/askTRP22/03/21 04:46 PM
1

I’m not drinking right now either, bro! I’m only 7 days in and I’m going a month (at least - I’ll asses at 1 month). This shit can be really tough. Best of luck!
/r/askTRP22/03/21 04:45 PM
5

RP men do “spin plates” (fuck multiple women) but most of them are up-front and honest about it. At least that is what TRP advises. Don’t try and hide it. It she doesn’t like it, too bad, next.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:02 AM
1

Agree on all points. It’s the nuance I was speaking to.
/r/askTRP21/03/21 06:40 PM
1

Even if it is, OP has a good point. You can’t just do x and expect y to happen, certainly not 100% of the time. Maybe most of the time, but you don’t really know. Yes, we have guidelines, but there are no generic answers to every situation. Life doesn’t work that way. Use your best judgement. Think for yourself. IMO, that’s really what being RP means.
/r/askTRP21/03/21 04:12 PM
1

Don't try and fuck up another man's relationship just because you "can." WTH bro. Flip it and think of how that would make you feel.
/r/askTRP09/03/21 03:48 PM
1

While of course I agree, and have experienced firsthand most of what you're describing here, I also have been happiest when I was married (and I can't write that off as coincidence either). I'm in my late 30's and have been grinding at work and passion projects alike for many years now, working on goals, lifting, learning Spanish, etc. I ramped them up significantly after my ex-wife and I split last year. Something isn't working though. Like I said, maybe I need therapy. Anyhow, thank you.
/r/askTRP09/03/21 03:46 PM
2

Agree, thank you
/r/askTRP09/03/21 05:44 AM
2

I like this, thanks
/r/askTRP09/03/21 05:44 AM
3

Hey, thanks. I do have a couple of good buddies, yes. My bother and I are extremely close too. I call him all the time and we help each other a lot. The romantic relationship is honestly great in all ways except I’m just not super physically attracted to her. She’s a catch in other ways, but I am very hung up on not being with her long term because I know I’d want a woman I’m more physically into. I do have goals for work and money, yes. That’s a very good point! I feel a little better already. …
/r/askTRP09/03/21 05:42 AM
1

Maybe not what you want to hear, but I’d just find a single girl instead.
/r/askTRP09/03/21 04:54 AM
2

I saw a meme of a woman pumping diesel in a car (that only takes gas) and the caption read “I can pump my own gas!” I lol’d HARD 😂
/r/askTRP09/03/21 04:44 AM
8

Dude, don’t bang married women. You’re gonna end up getting shot or some shit. Just my 2c.
/r/seduction28/02/21 08:49 PM
1

You just sound pathetic, bud. Good luck out there, you’ll need it.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 08:49 PM
1

Keep working on your trolling kid, you’ll get there some day.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 08:47 PM
1

This dude gets it. Everyone nowadays, men and women, are extremely myopic and shortsighted. All of western society is driven by dopamine addiction and instant gratification. Seeing through this bullshit is the first step on your way out of the matrix.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:53 PM
1

There’s way more to life than pussy. If you haven’t figured that out then you have a ways to go on your RP journey.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:50 PM
4

I partied my fucking ass off in my 20s, then went to work super hard in my 30s. If I had it to do all over again I would just start saving more money earlier and major in computer science instead of audio engineering.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:46 PM
1

Impulse control and dopamine detox, yes.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:45 PM
1

I don’t get why you are triggered by this, but whatever lol
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:44 PM
1

Seriously though, whatever works for you. I don’t tell anyone to do this or that, but I know from personal experience (and I’m pushing 40) that hard work, self-discipline, and perseverance absolutely pay off.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:42 PM
2

Very much agree with this! “Idle hands are the devil’s plaything.” Pun intended
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:40 PM
2

Well, I work in tech, so yeah, haha
/r/askTRP24/02/21 02:38 PM
1

Just willpower, yes. Getting rid of porn was actually more difficult for me. I still get some from a plate or two on the regular, so not jerking off isn’t that hard, pun intended.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 05:29 AM
7

I agree, but I freakin love whiskey and a little bit goes a long way and before ya know it...drunk. But yeah, moderation is key.
/r/askTRP24/02/21 03:00 AM
29

Completely cut out all porn and stopped masturbating. Ramped up my lifting and running. Started taking cold showers, meditating, Wim Hof breathing. Eating fruit only breakfasts, drinking less coffee. Drink more water, get more sleep. Wake up at dawn and do some kind of mediation/prayer/quiet reflection (I read The Bible, personally). It’s working well for me so far. Haven’t stopped drinking yet. That’s gonna be the the really tough one for me because just like you, all my friends get hammered on…
/r/askTRP24/02/21 01:16 AM
3

Don’t ...look away too quickly
/r/seduction23/02/21 09:12 PM
8

What about just hanging out with friends? You can meet quality women this way too. I feel you on the loneliness thing, but you gotta know that a woman isn’t the answer. Even if you want a LTR or marriage, you gotta be whole and good on your own. I’m on my journey for this too. Best of luck!
/r/askTRP22/02/21 01:22 AM
1

I’m 6’0 so it’s rare to find a woman taller than me, thankfully. I’d do it, but it’s not ideal. I’ve found that for certain sexual positions (like doggy) height is surprisingly important, haha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:36 PM
-1

To play devil’s advocate here: are you trying to get into a LTR with her? If not, why not just keep her as a plate? If you do though, proceed with caution though yeah. Be sure to use a condom and flush it.
/r/askTRP21/02/21 02:56 PM
1

Ain’t that the truth, bro! Thanks. Really. I like being called on my bullshit even if I don’t think it’s bullshit, lol
/r/askTRP21/02/21 12:15 AM
1

Well, I appreciate some honest dialog instead of name calling for a change at least. Yeah, I sunk to your level and made it personal. This woman is a rare find, actually a good woman and a true HVW. I know that like 95% of them are chameleons and aren’t worth it, but I feel like this one is. But ya, who knows....maybe my heart is fucking me here, which could be the case, I dunno. I just really want a HVW to settle down and have kids with, even if that doesn’t “work” according to TRP.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 11:51 PM
1

“Toxic” masculinity is a myth. There’s only actual masculinity and toxic human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:18 PM
5

Ones that are young, and/or drunk.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 05:12 PM
1

Thank you, I appreciate the actually constructive and helpful feedback.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 04:18 PM
1

Crickets… What a shock
/r/askTRP20/02/21 04:18 PM
1

Let me ask you, do you take everything online at face value and believe it 100%? Because if you do, that’s fucking stupid.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 04:17 PM
-1

Also, you sound like a pathetic blackpill incel little bitch that lives with his “mum.” Get fucked already, /u/musicgoon even if you have to pay for it, which from the sound of it, you certainly will.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 04:15 PM
1

*than
/r/askTRP20/02/21 04:11 PM
-1

I know how to think for myself. Try it out sometime.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 04:09 PM
1

Let’s run the numbers real quick here. Just easy math: If a girl that’s 18 goes on 12 dates a year and fucks all those guys (by at least the 3rd date) that means 4 guys a year. By the time she’s 28 her body-count is at 40...at least. So let me ask you all: is that a woman you want to marry? One that just stepped off the cock-Carousel? This isn’t a tough concept to grasp...
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:51 AM
1

Some of you dudes need to get off Reddit and get out into the world and learn to think for yourselves instead of just believing everything TRP claims to be true. Test this shit out.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:42 AM
-2

TRP claims that HQW basically don’t exist, or if they do, they’re not worth it. That’s some MGTOW bullshit IMO, so I reject that premise. I know from experience that HQW exist and are very much worth it.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:41 AM
0

That’s just it though. I don’t want to just fuck thots forever. I want a high quality woman FFS. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:39 AM
1

I agree. No, I haven’t fucked her yet.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:36 AM
4

Dude, you have to know how women work. It’s not always as simple as TRP claims it to be. Shit, I wish it were...
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:35 AM
-1

I’m older and probably gotten more pussy than you, yeah.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 06:34 AM
-2

Any woman that lets you fuck her by the third date isn’t a HVW, and she’s certainly not marriage material.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 02:54 AM
1

Working on it. I’m 1 of 2 currently. And ya I want a 3rd of course and am working on it, lol
/r/askTRP20/02/21 01:37 AM
-2

Fuck off, bro. You’ve clearly never dated a super attractive or high value woman.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 01:37 AM
2

Good points, thanks. It does matter to me if she’s a “good girl” or just holding out sex for a LTR. Far as I can tell so far, she really is virtuous. I’m in no real rush, but I want kids. I’m in my late 30’s so it’s not too tough for me to date women in the late 20’s, but it’s not getting easier either.
/r/askTRP20/02/21 01:35 AM
-7

...and before you (or anyone) says it, I know that "all women" fuck Chad/Tyrone in a ONS, but still. If she is lying about holding out sex for a LTR she hasn't caved yet.
/r/askTRP19/02/21 11:39 PM
-8

Because she is adamant she does not sleep with a guy until she's in a LTR. I'm fine with having a relationship too. Why are you guys so triggered by this? You’ve never dated a HVW before?
/r/askTRP19/02/21 11:38 PM
5

Agree, and plenty of men are effeminate and/or gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 08:29 PM
1

Good news for me, because I have this in spades!
/r/seduction06/02/21 06:07 PM
1

such a nice guy That's not me though. While I'm not being an "asshole" (which doesn't actually work, TBC), I am being direct and assertive. According to the 9 Iron Rules of Tomassi, you give it (up to) 4 dates to have sex. We're not to that yet. If nothing is happening by the 4th date then yes, I'll walk.
/r/askTRP04/02/21 05:56 PM
1

Here's hoping your right and the next date is the one!
/r/askTRP03/02/21 09:44 PM
-5

In some cases I can agree, but not with this woman. She says she's not having sex with anyone. Plus, we've only been on a few dates so far.
/r/askTRP03/02/21 08:58 PM
-1

Easier said than done with this one. Thanks though, I do agree.
/r/askTRP03/02/21 07:52 PM
1

I honestly do not follow...
/r/seduction03/02/21 07:46 PM
1

It is a good point though to say that testing a man's patience is a shit-test women will pull.
/r/askTRP03/02/21 07:03 PM
1

Thanks the the comment. I want to just keep dating her, but is that really the case about it being her department? According to all RP stuff I've read the man is the gatekeeper for the relationship, and the woman is the gatekeeper for sex.
/r/askTRP03/02/21 07:02 PM
26

I'm gonna take a different approach on this one - learn how to read her better in the bedroom. That way you won't even wind up in this situation again. Women (especially non-feminists, i.e. ones worth having) won't usually tell you what they like, you need to intuit it. You can err on the side of caution by just going with what feels right to you, but if you want her to enjoy fucking you, you need to make it...well, enjoyable. If you don't feel like you can inuit it with her body language and no…
/r/askTRP03/02/21 06:11 PM
1

Ya I was mostly kidding, but I happen to know from experience that if a woman asks you out then she will indeed pay for the date. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:12 PM
2

Bro, if a woman will pay for dinner AND blow me afterwards then I don't care if she's a rainbow-haired, feminazi SJW, lmao. She can think it's a "win-win" all she wants! After all, men and women are "the same" right, so why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:45 PM
1

haha, ok fair enough. This is RP logic, my friend. Most of it is true, most of the time.
/r/seduction02/02/21 02:31 PM
-6

So she’s less inclined to fleece you in a divorce, ok sure. No other real reasons that I’ve found.
/r/seduction02/02/21 06:31 AM
-1

Why would you GAF what her job is. She isn’t giving you any of her money.
/r/seduction02/02/21 06:01 AM
15

“Look at the career on that chick.” -No man ever
/r/seduction02/02/21 12:52 AM
2

I read their bio, then ask them some thing that I am genuinely interested in about them. It seems to work pretty well.
/r/seduction01/02/21 02:49 PM
1

As a former beta blue-pill dude, I have to think that physical attraction is at least 50% for women. God knows I didn’t have great game, but I still got laid plenty, so I must be attractive, haha
/r/seduction28/01/21 07:58 PM
9

Lmao 😂
/r/seduction26/01/21 04:28 AM
1

Just like anything, of course it can be practiced! The key is to not be too personal or cut too deep - don't make fun of someone's appearance, religion, politics, etc. Keep it LIGHT
/r/seduction15/01/21 09:58 PM
5

Not sure I really agree, but you have to be in their physical proximity to escalate, obviously. I’d let her go personally, yeah.
/r/seduction10/01/21 03:24 AM
13

This is a good titty post
/r/seduction09/01/21 11:27 PM
2

Thank you! I love the part about video chatting, and hadn’t though of that.
/r/seduction09/01/21 01:38 AM
0

Thanks for the feedback! I very much agree, guys standards are too low. So she and I have only had one date but yes, I like her so far...probably too much. Trying not to put too much stock into her because of that. She takes her time to text me back, but she has always texted me back. Not sure if she's playing games or not, but trying not to care. 2 of 2 times when I called she didn't answer, so I'm not gonna call anymore (felt more assertive to call, but if she doesn't answer then it's no good)…
/r/seduction08/01/21 08:36 PM
1

Makes sense. Thanks!
/r/seduction08/01/21 08:01 PM
1

I like this post, thanks OP. 4 is kind of tricky though. For instance, I’m talking to a girl that lives and hour away and I’m not sure if she has a car. I drove up there and took her out to dinner last weekend, and I was going to tell her to come to me for our next date, but if she can’t then where does that leave me...? I have to go to her again.
/r/seduction08/01/21 06:20 PM
1

tl;dr - Do NOT simp!!
/r/seduction07/01/21 02:48 AM
-4

Bullshit. Every woman on earth can be gamed, full stop. Just not by every man.
/r/seduction31/12/20 09:58 PM
2

Why was this deleted? In all likelihood this is the truth. I guess it depends on age and maturity, but TONS of women have sex on the first date.
/r/seduction31/12/20 09:52 PM
2

Men only hate it when they don’t have it. Women hate it because it WORKS.
/r/seduction26/12/20 04:52 AM
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