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First post wasn’t super serious, but after seeing OP’s response, OP may actually be crazy. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 04:48 PM
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Based off all your posts in here you’re much worse than that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 04:47 PM
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Yeah pretty much what I said. Plus, at younger ages, women have to rely on potential. None of their peers have very much. At 30 everyone's lot is largely set. It's a different ballgame
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:27 PM
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Because by 30 women have learned what their value is without realizing it's become what their value was
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:16 PM
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Well that's not nice to say about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:15 PM
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Honestly if we're making caricatures of the average poster these aren't too bad, except I'm not sure why the woman is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:14 PM
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Well, TRP works, so there's that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:12 PM
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Have lots of plates and let one select herself for the position (one who you also like)
/r/askTRP12/10/20 03:05 PM
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Up to you to find your own niche that works. What works for one may not work for another. Definitely max out your own looks. Dress nice. Gym. Take care of yourself. As for how to act around them... tease a lot, be a challenge. Recognize tons of men throw themselves at these women. Don't put them on a pedestal, tell them how hot they are--they want to see that you stack up, that this is normal for you. You also don't need to wait until you have some good job to try to impress them. They won't be …
/r/askTRP11/10/20 01:06 PM
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Lead by example Answer questions honestly Encourage actions rather than ideas, from a young age... “talk to the women in your class” is good advice Gauge how responsive he is to what you say and tailor to that
/r/askTRP19/09/20 02:20 PM
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Dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 02:10 AM
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Didn’t ‘impose’ anything, but when I met my LTR I just let her know men tend not to be monogamous long before I LTR’d her. Sometimes I am monogamous (like the past 12 months), sometimes I am not (like the year I fucked 15 girls). She’s fine with whatever I decide to do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 11:45 AM
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Almost 70% of overweight people in US are overweight Interesting stat. One would think 100% of overweight people would be overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:31 AM
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I chose both. AMA
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:27 AM
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I have long hair because I look better with it. It suits me. It does not suit everyone. Also, everyone does not maintain it. Figure out what's best for you and don't worry about it. Yes, some girls won't bang you because your hair is too long. Others bang you because your hair is long and they're into it. It's a zero-sum game.
/r/askTRP11/09/20 09:11 PM
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"Okay, and?" Because men doing something too does not negate that women do it. I don't care what men do it's what I do.
/r/askTRP11/09/20 09:10 PM
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When I had this problem, I solved it by instituting a rule for myself where I won't make out with a chick unless I'm somewhere that I can fuck her. It worked for me, not sure how reliably it would work for other people. In my first 2 months of college I made out with 40 chicks (yes, I counted then, it's kinda sad in retrospect) but banged 0. Instituted the rule, got no action at all for a couple months. Ended college having banged 25 chicks.
/r/askTRP11/09/20 09:01 PM
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Because once you get to a certain point in the game you hardly have to "spend time" on acquiring sex. Think about it: Financial independence is considered the gold standard of financial statuses. Not having to work, but still having money to live whatever life you want to live. How do you get financial independence? Well, you're either born with it (select few), or you do have to grind for a period of time to acquire it (majority). Sex works the same way. You put in the effort upfront because no…
/r/askTRP11/09/20 08:59 PM
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Wake up, work, work out, eat, play some games & maybe smoke a bowl, lay pipe
/r/askTRP11/09/20 08:56 PM
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I used the same pics on my profile so I got similar success before and after. The pics don't show my body but my face looks pretty good so it was enough. I will say, though: the more attractive women tend to want to 'verify' you via snapchat before meeting you, at least for me that came up a lot. When I was pretty in shape and would send a full body pic, it became a pretty guaranteed thing. When I wasn't, I'd often lose them on that.
/r/askTRP11/09/20 08:55 PM
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Putting effort in =/= good at sex. The other guy could be good too—he just doesn’t care. And no, women can fuck anyone. I mean, a 3 can’t fuck Johnny Depp. But that’s an extreme. A 5 can fuck a 9 for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:11 PM
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Women can fuck anyone. Literally anyone. So that’s not really true. Unless her stronger preference is “actually puts in any semblance of effort / makes it a good time for me.” But that would just be kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 04:57 PM
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I agree with the idea, but all else isn’t equal just means the guy doesn’t have the option to make all else equal. If he did have the option to make all else equal, he would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 04:42 PM
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You’re not wrong, if you’re expecting me to say that you are. I will add the caveat that it occurs in men, imo, because they don’t have the options for what they truly want. Women, however, can pretty much have sex with anyone. So I’d argue it occurs in them for a different reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 03:56 PM
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Nah women in here get mad at me all the time because I want (and have) a woman with a significantly lower n-count than mine. if it is okay for men to have these preferences and by hypocritical about them, surely it is okay for women to want a man who [a lot of shit] Imo women can “want” vocally whatever they want. What they say is always far removed from what they do. I mean, I’m only 5’9” and for all that I’ve heard that I need to be 6’ I just do not see that reality bare out irl
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 02:39 PM
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Just because men don’t say “hey this is the criteria you’re being evaluated upon” does not mean it is not the criteria you’re being evaluated upon. Do you honestly think I tell women I want to know or care what their n-count is? Fuck no, because I’m not a virgin. Somewhere out there all these women, too, are running around spouting “men don’t care if I’m a slut!” Yeah... they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 10:30 PM
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But most men aren’t making that choice. Instead they’re either choosing from 10 Fox’s or 10 Dunham’s. Hell some are choosing from 10 Amy Schumer’s. But pairs tend to looksmatch, so the fact a man would choose a non-looksmatch with shittier other traits is pretty irrelevant. In the real world he never gets that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:45 PM
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Alpha isn’t a look or a stat. It’s a mindset, a way of being. Without knowing you nobody can verify if you are or not. You may or may not be, but it’s a pointless debate either way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:05 PM
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Where did you get this from? Stop reading and start doing. You’ve got hot women on a pedestal. IME they’re more down-to-earth than average women who have “something to prove.” I am pretty RP but susceptible to basic human flaws—for example, unemployment due to covid until recently accompanied with some depressive symptoms due to it & increased use of “low value” activities like Reddit—and my LTR didn’t treat me a snuff differently. She’s a HB8. Girls, whether HB2 or HB10, know you’re human. They…
/r/askTRP01/09/20 01:58 AM
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Then your original frame wasn’t as strong as you thought, or the girl just sucks
/r/askTRP01/09/20 01:53 AM
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Exactly. Say a beautiful 22-year-old woman (for some reason) dated a broke ugly 30-year-old male. Does that dude really have power over her? That’d be ridiculous. Power in relationships mainly stems from SMV imbalances. If the ages are different but SMV is the same, power is likely quite balanced. If the SMVs are imbalanced, who’s older matters fuck all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 07:08 PM
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Not my wife but LTR of a long time, and no. Definitely not
/r/askTRP23/08/20 01:06 PM
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This has it right. Despite being staunchly RP I hate the glamorizing of old men. It just screams marketing tactic because a wider range of men have yet to turn 45 than have yet to turn 25 (since it’s a self-improvement based idea). That said they are right that men can retain value better than women. However most men do not. And very attractive or high status men still pulling in their later years means zilch for the average dudes. And I’m sure the older RP men know this. They’re not dumb. But i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 10:09 PM
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The truly ‘best’ outcome is commitment + plates. 99% of men can’t obtain that, so they settle for more strict monogamy. But look at athletes, famous men, kings, etc. Those are the men with every choice available. Look at what they choose. Most kings have a Queen & several mistresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 04:33 PM
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The idea is that TRP’s teachings themselves are amoral. What you do with it can certainly be moral or immoral, though that discussion is not allowed on TRP itself (for good reason). If TRP sub did talk morals, there’d be a lot of disagreement because it’s never been discussed. Thus the users’ opinions are likely all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 04:31 PM
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I don’t normally do this but I’ll throw you a bone OP. Want me to DM you a pic? My LTR is a HB8. I can bat on the low end of HB8. To get HB8s more consistently or to get HB9s you’d probably just need to be me but jacked. Disclosure I think my game is pretty damn good tho. You’ll need the full package to get true hotties—they’ve got lots of options.
/r/askTRP20/08/20 01:28 PM
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That’s really interesting. I’ll be honest. I just assumed college was somewhere you lived everywhere. That kinda sucks. I mean personally college is the whole reason I was able to personally develop myself. I had a beta rep in HS despite being good looking and pretty funny. Couldn’t really shake it. Got to college and could really practice because no one knew me. You should tag OP in your post so he sees that. If he’s really outside US, what you said would be vastly more helpful
/r/askTRP20/08/20 01:24 PM
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I've got a few posts I've wanted to do for a while jotted down on my notepad. Maybe you'll find them of more use. Just started a new job not so long ago so haven't had time to write 'em up yet. Should be good. Admittedly this one didn't come out quite as I planned, but it happens--wrote it in like 5 minutes believe it or not. I've got high standards for my content because I'm actually a salesman & writer and may try to launch a Manosphere type website on the side so I'm working on my content bui…
/r/TheRedPill20/08/20 03:02 AM
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Dawg you send winky faces to men and tell them to jack off.
/r/askTRP20/08/20 02:59 AM
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run
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:54 AM
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Avoid getting it yourself? By realizing there's plenty of people who could be your "the one." I mean just think: if that person died, would you be alone forever, or likely find a similar caliber partner eventually? I'll go with the latter. Avoid people getting it for you? Dunno bruh, I guess you just gotta stop being so damn desirable. Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:50 AM
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I have no idea what you even just wrote. Go drink a cup of coffee and try again. You can look at the keyboard while you type it too if that helps.
/r/askTRP20/08/20 02:48 AM
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The fact that she's entertaining it already tells you all you need to know. Whether you frown upon it and thus she doesn't do it is besides the point. A hooker in heart is a hooker in action, whether today or tomorrow
/r/askTRP20/08/20 02:42 AM
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You were free to stop at any point. You want free advice—you get what you pay for. Don’t enjoy the content, don’t read.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/20 02:37 AM
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My wife left me? I’m surprised to hear I’ve been married. Must have happened when I went to Vegas.
/r/askTRP20/08/20 02:35 AM
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Honestly I like this thread. A bit of a fresh take. I think it's creative. Some things I like... - Light-hearted and able to take a joke (no SJWs that'll get offended) - More interested in living life than a career (not to be confused with unambitious) - Extrovert, can make friends easily - Smiley and happy generally - Willing to indulge my interests and hobbies - Active social life, with me once we're really together for a while - Has her own unique interests (not partying or getting drunk 24/7…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 11:31 PM
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I bet I could still pick them up while wearing a tanktop. Women will say a lot that they don't follow through on.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 11:23 PM
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I'm not going to give you concrete numbers to think about or anything about women entirely, but think about it like this (I've posted a similar analogy on PPD before and think it's pretty strong). Let's say you're going to buy cars. Your SMV in the dating world is like your income while looking at cars. That's how much you have to "spend." Now think about all the options you have. Maybe you can afford a 2010 Lambo with 120k miles on it. Maybe you'd rather spend that money on a brand new suped up…
/r/askTRP19/08/20 11:21 PM
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I take your side. Just because you may not get a truthful answer doesn't mean you shouldn't ask. You can still learn something from the response. It's like an established minimum, because you sure as hell know she's not lying upwards. Read her sentence as "At least _____." It's kind of like applying to a job. Yes, I know that recruiters/HR are going to try to sell the job to me. I still want to hear their pitch. There's still good info there. I'm just not going to treat it as Bible.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 11:13 PM
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Not seen that before. Great read. I side with that rather than the basic “do not talk about Fight Club.” I’ve shown chicks RP ideas without the brand name in the past and they’re always interested and agree. But these are chicks I’m already banging who see my value already. For the beginners, absolutely yes do not discuss it. They probably don’t even have the social savvy to know if people think they’re socially savvy. Hint: they don’t
/r/TheRedPill19/08/20 09:50 PM
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Yeah, some people get too caught up in their textbooks to notice the trees outside. LTRs don't need to be misery. Women generally not being worth an LTR doesn't mean no woman has ever been worth an LTR.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 07:52 PM
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you’re here selling some blue pill idea of a fking unicorn and offering no practical help. His advice was good. If you're not finding higher quality women, raise your quality as a man. Consider that you may just not be attracting them. Are they the majority? Hell no. Are they obtainable? Hell yes.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 07:50 PM
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Girls whom I have great sex with are usually hotter, more sensual, albeit dumber, and they usually enjoy attracting other guys Girls who are I can connect well with who are smart, capable and clever and not fit and I have no urge to fuck them at all I’ve not met a girl who’s hot, great at sex, good personality and very clever Keep looking.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 07:48 PM
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no human is perfect so stop expecting a perfect woman because in her eyes you aren't a perfect man. Very well put.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 07:48 PM
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Damn, this is very similar to a dowry. You’re pretty spot-on. Funny thinking you came up with a new-ish thought, only to be reminded it’s been done in the past. If dowries and marriage were instituted again as big factors in life, I think culture as a whole would have to change. High n-count would be heavily shamed again. For good reason. However I don’t really see that happening. I think my take is a bit like the modern interpretation that goes unspoken but is relevant nonetheless.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/20 07:22 PM
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The main potential pitfall there is if your SMV is limited by your genetics. There's numerous studies showing that being short or ugly will negatively impact how much you earn and get promoted. This is true. But then you would just take that bit out of your skillset. You can still take the rest of the post as useful information. For example investments generally pay out better than a job in terms of time spent on them versus net reward. Social connections, while not as profitable as good LTRs, a…
/r/TheRedPill19/08/20 04:41 PM
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I agree. I have a lot of friends working pretty crazy jobs out of undergrad. Wall Street, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft... one kid has sold his business for 400k already, and one girl I know founded a biotech company that grosses a couple million per year. She’s 22. Meanwhile, I just write books and comedy lol. Hoping to be the next JD Salinger with a Seth Macfarlane bend 😂
/r/askTRP19/08/20 03:15 PM
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Again, replying as someone who actually went to a school like that, I will agree and disagree. There’s many people who did “bust their ass” to go there. Likewise there’s many people who busted their ass and couldn’t get in. I know many from HS. Some lucky individuals (like me) did not bust their ass in HS and still got in. I had good extracurriculars, a good essay, and strong test scores. My HS GPA kinda sucked (ranked 22 out of 110 at a HS where it wasn’t competitive.) Some people pay their way…
/r/askTRP19/08/20 03:12 PM
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Would you like a pic of my diploma? Lmao. Pretty much everyone at my college was in that range. Idk what to tell you. Do you think the IQ of Harvard students is the same as University of Arizona students? The people with high IQs all go to the same schools. I went to one. It’s really not crazy at all lol. My SAT score was 2300 and her ACT was a 33 or maybe 34. That’s how this works lol
/r/askTRP19/08/20 01:48 PM
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Yeah I went to a borderline Ivy League school and we met in college lmao. She took an IQ test for fun once and actually got 160 but I deducted 10 bc I think it was luck / possibly a shitty test. But yes I’m aware the implications lol my score is similar (though I’ve not taken the test)
/r/askTRP19/08/20 01:32 PM
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hot as fuck good sex down for anything sexually has fun ideas for things to do makes good impressions on people pretty smart (IQ 150-ish) rich af always positive (no nagging harpy shit) funny low n-count prior to me and acts it
/r/askTRP19/08/20 01:05 PM
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Yeah if you’re a ‘commuter’ depending on your school GL getting laid. To illustrate the point: My freshman year I drew shitty in housing lottery, lived with a commute. N-count 1. Sophmore year I got an on-campus house that was far-ish (20 min walk rather than 15 min drive) N-count 5. Junior yr, lived in center of campus basically, n-count 15. Obviously other variables behind the scene but yes it helps
/r/askTRP19/08/20 01:00 PM
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Curious what led you here then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 08:51 AM
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The common denominator is you. There’s lots of girls out there like this. Coax it out of them or like Whisper said pick better places to meet them.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 08:31 AM
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You can talk about it without using actual RP terms if you’re skilled enough to discuss it gracefully within modern social acceptability
/r/askTRP15/08/20 04:16 AM
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Ask them to stand in front of a mirror. Like vampires, sluts have no reflection
/r/askTRP14/08/20 03:26 PM
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Haven't you heard of Isaac Newton? He was a virgin. Albert Einstein? Virgin. Bill Nye? Big virgin. They're all virgins. Sigmund Freud? Wasn't really a scientist, so he wasn't a virgin. All true scientists are virgins. Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 08:10 PM
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I have a job now. Old news
/r/askTRP13/08/20 07:46 PM
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Because it’s a woman’s job to manage men’s expectations and not a man’s job to set his expectations low. Yes obviously a man’s ideal is a virgin who’ll fuck him the moment she meets him. Which elements of that he decides to sacrifice on to compensate for his own shortcomings of value are at his own discretion. Doesn’t change the theoretical ideal
/r/askTRP13/08/20 05:15 AM
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I think you’re right in that it’s more common for high value men than any SMV’d women to understand it. Though some women definitely do—my LTR gets male-female dynamics better than most men or women do tbh. I just think less women understand it to the level that high SMV men do because they don’t stand to gain a whole lot by knowing it. Women are more passive in dating, and can’t improve themselves as much if they’re already not fat. Whereas a man knowing dating dynamics can turn him into a “pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 04:22 AM
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If women are so easy to manipulate, we better never let one be president. Fuck, maybe every female CEO should resign right now. We can’t have such easily manipulated creatures running anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:30 AM
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I’m not sure what you have against hot women. IME they tend to be more interesting and generally better people as a result of lessened insecurities, more opportunities, and the world treating them better. Hardly “shallow” or “vapid” outside of wanting someone who brings what they bring to the table—good looks. But yes, certain TRP tactics work on beautiful women better. I’d know. I became pretty RP and HB5 type girls often get offended by me, don’t like me, etc. Because I’m big on playful insult…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:28 AM
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No man should possibly be “considering you for soulmate” within any amount of time remotely reasonable not to have had sex yet. You know if you want to stay with someone after multiple years dating. Any guy who tells you he knows sooner is either A. Desperate B. Lying C. Both. That’s just facts. In any case a man just wants you to fuck him. You’re a slut if you fuck other men quickly, not him. Personally I’d never wait to have sex with a girl. Most I ever waited was 3 dates-ish. My current LTR (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:15 AM
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Alright hate is a strong word, but I disliked women when I was younger. Honestly I just wanted to fuck them and hang out with them and it seemed like literally none wanted that with me. So I was like wtf. Am I really that bad? Improved with women (while still kinda disliking them), met my current LTR who was great, fucked a decent amount of girls, really like women now. They’re great, though sometimes they annoy me with some of their social blindspots. But overall really like them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:08 AM
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Studies suck in the social sciences because an intelligent person in a position to conduct studies can easily manipulate variables, data, etc to prove whatever they want. They can also interpret the data however they want. Academic Journals are also for-profit and pick studies that interest people over studies that most accurately reflect reality. I tend to value experience > studies for this stuff. People who have experience tend to be the most realistic about it all. On the flip side, if some …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 02:03 AM
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My LTR wasn’t exactly like this but was ok if I did it and would like being told about it while fucking or whatever. Feel free to AMA Two things I will say: Do not listen to anybody who hasn’t done it. They have no clue what they’re talking about. It’s only possible for a certain type of man but very worth it
/r/askTRP12/08/20 10:34 PM
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Do you think you’re most likely to pick the best option if you have 100 options or 5 options From: knowing which options are truly better literally having better options knowing how to maintain options better Plus you’ll like women much more if you’ve been with many. That helps an LTR
/r/askTRP12/08/20 10:32 PM
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Why would the hottest girls have the lowest self-esteem? That makes zero sense. Saying “I love my ugly fat body” is not the same as loving your ugly fat body
/r/askTRP12/08/20 10:27 PM
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No... no, they don’t. 95% have it sure, but not all. Furthermore of the ones that have it a decent amount don’t use it to flaunt themselves sexually. But it depends what groups you run in how much you see these things.
/r/askTRP12/08/20 10:22 PM
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And what do you offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:08 PM
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The reason most of these people you describe care far less about it in their relationships (and I know quite a bit of them, despite coming from a somewhat impoverished background), is because they already have it and it's a given. I mean, that's fair--people who have nothing will care more about being able to get something than people who have quite enough already. This has been taught to men from the day they're born. It's been the male role in the relationship for thousands of years. And in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 03:03 PM
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In that case just carry on as you have been. You only should try to change things when you start to sense a change (subtle changes will occur before larger ones)
/r/askTRP08/08/20 02:58 PM
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Why do you need to ask this? Has something changed lately?
/r/askTRP08/08/20 02:16 PM
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I'm putting my money on her marrying a succesful beta Yeah, that's also quite possible/likely even. I wouldn't be surprised there. Or her marrying a real HVM but divorcing him later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 12:28 AM
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Besides you really think it's a girl's fault when someone else chooses to be physically abusive? If it happens again and again, the woman is either doing something to coax it out, or choosing poorly. Both of those come down to her. This is not most people's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 12:27 AM
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Here's what I think you and many others in the thread are missing. She comes off as abrasive. She comes off as a bitch. She has a checklist a million miles long. Yes, that would chase away a HVM. You're absolutely correct. Here's the catch: put the right man in front of her and she'll toss it out the window. These feminist types (which she basically is, even if she labels herself as not being that) will completely disregard everything they say for the right man. Feelz over realz. When she catche…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:56 PM
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I'm sure plenty of the men you've 'dated' will go on to lead successful and happy lives. If your time spent with all of them was miserable, the common denominator was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:37 PM
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Also, her political stance is right wing. But, she's just like any other harpy feminist when it comes to the opposite sex. I listened to that video and thought the same. I have no idea what separates her from feminists. She nailed all of the key feminist talking points to a T. She'll still end up with a HVM tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:33 PM
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I agree with this take. My LTR isn't from mega-millions but... very well-off. Well enough that, when her parents retire, she's just going to get their properties which total... a fair bit of money. Meanwhile my parents worked lower middle class jobs and I paid for college myself, what wasn't covered by scholarships. Hers wrote a check for sticker price. Lol. And 95%+ of men could not handle that discrepancy. I see it all the time. Insecurity, insecure posts on Reddit, insecure comments in real l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:31 PM
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She'll end up with a HVM because she's hot and well-known. She is clearly very bitter about men here, and like when incels are bitter and think their personality is great, I'm sure it bleeds through even when she doesn't think it does and puts people off. But yeah, people thinking she's going to struggle forever don't understand the SMP. She's hot. She'll do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:12 PM
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Then your standards are higher than your SMV
/r/askTRP06/08/20 06:46 PM
0

Then your standards are higher than your SMV
/r/askTRP06/08/20 06:46 PM
0

Yeah exactly—which is why I said “SMV” rather than physical attractiveness. Your looks don’t matter beyond how they impact overall SMV
/r/askTRP06/08/20 06:13 PM
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The women you can reliably bang are roughly your SMV minus 2 The women you can sometimes bang are roughly your SMV minus one The hottest women you can ever bang / the women you’d want to LTR are your SMV
/r/askTRP06/08/20 04:50 PM
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Women like LTRs generally. Not all the time at all ages, but at least a decent amount of the time. Attractive women can get LTRs. That slows their n-count because they’ll casually fuck one dude and either date him or long-term FWB him—he’ll just add one. Unattractive women try to do the same but get pumped and dumped. For them to get sex with the guys they want requires fucking more dudes because less will want them. Simple math.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 12:56 PM
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I’d think she was really committed to the act lol. To be honest I don’t think an LTR could convince me of this. No matter what she said or did I’d write it off and think she was into me. So I have a tough time saying what my response would truly be because I likely wouldn’t even identify this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 12:53 PM
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Yes, this is pretty common sense though. The more good traits you have the more desirable you will be. Yes.
/r/askTRP05/08/20 06:31 PM
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3 — I couldn’t even “get started” with women and didn’t know where to begin. TRP helped me on that journey. I was very young when I found it (16)
/r/askTRP05/08/20 06:25 PM
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If women go for men too high level for them when they pursue older men, and younger women have a higher SMV than older women, who is left to go for older men? By that logic old men are better than everyone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:02 PM
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I invited a girl to a party and knew she was kinda slutty though I hardly knew her. Told my FWB who was there to go ask her for a threesome. Sat back for a couple mins while she went to converse and she returned with a threesome. Got in an uber immediately and did it.
/r/askTRP04/08/20 05:51 PM
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I would ban it I suppose. Would make for better households. Lot more stability in the world, ideally. 22M RP
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:23 PM
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That’s fair. Men of all ages rank women by age very similarly. Would remove that as a factor
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:37 PM
2

Before she has to decide on the real abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:35 PM
2

Because you subconsciously know it’s praise lmfao. “He’s an asshole / douche / etc” and a boat load more terms exist for men who fuck a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:16 AM
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Yeah, this. Can’t have women saying “my body, my choice” unless men can say “my wallet, my choice”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:54 PM
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A bunch of people already try to “slut shame” men. Please note: it doesn’t work and has zero effect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:52 PM
1

This is for you to decide. Anyone who comes down on either side is likely biased because that’s either what they chose or wish they chose.
/r/askTRP03/08/20 06:46 PM
3

Hey at least Burrow was from Ohio Had he been from anywhere else he could’ve pulled a John Elway 😂
/r/askTRP03/08/20 04:04 PM
1

Greek Life has some RP kinda people too. It’s just that’s not what they’re selecting for. It’s mostly just good looking born-wealthy dudes and that’s their criteria. Many of those dudes can still be beta. Thing is, the beta ones still get laid, but much less than the non-betas
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:51 PM
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I mean they could be fun to fuck and without much hassle. But LTRing them was mindblowing to me because... like you said. Especially thought those guys who’d date the frat whore were idiots. I’m graduated now and uncoincidentally none of them are still together. Tho very few are in LTRs at all. Most of the guys 2 years older than me are now tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:39 PM
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Ohhhh lmao. Then you can do pretty much anything you’re experienced enough to pull off. If it looks like you’re struggling to figure out how to do it, it’ll be a turn off. But anything you can do smoothly is fine. The most classic positions are probably easiest for that, tho.
/r/askTRP03/08/20 03:10 PM
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Like to lose your virginity? Definitely go missionary tbh. What if you don’t find the whole well (way back when, won’t lie, happened the time I should have lost my virginity lmao)? That’s gonna be super awkward. Just keep it simple at first and try to be a superstar later when you’ve got the basics down lol. Michael Jordan didn’t win the NBA Championship the first time he picked up a basketball
/r/askTRP03/08/20 02:46 PM
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Quality of the girls: 6-8, only consider 9 to be like top 0.1% aka someone who’s probably famous or at least locally so. Those girls are tough to get without a certain status even if you’re good with women. Even despite this only a few women I’ve banged were LTR-able. Where do you find them: everywhere. Night game, social circles, while carrying out my day, online dating, etc How did you get there: a lot of trying and failing + upping my SMV a bit + naturally decent SMV Oneitis: depends what you…
/r/askTRP03/08/20 02:25 PM
1

Sorority? => sorostitute... I can 100% confirm women in sororities are some of the biggest and most unfaithful whores you’ll meet in the world Here to confirm this (was in a frat in college). 95% of sorority girls are highly promiscuous. The other 5% don't go to your parties or wear letters. Never understood why everyone in my frat was so pretentious about only LTRing sorority girls. If you LTR'd one from the top sorority, even if she wasn't that great and was a slut, you were "the man." Meanwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:04 PM
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theyre not settling down for women older than 25 I wish Americans would endorse this mindset. Would reduce the CC by quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:56 AM
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In HS I had no social skills and was pretty average. A few women (in retrospect) had interest in me but I was too dense to get it. By end of HS I grew a beard, which upped my SMV more than you may think it could (bad lower third--if you want to see how much that can make a difference, google James Harden without a beard). I also worked on my social skills a lot and actually developed pretty good ones. The effects upping my SMV and 'game' had were pretty split. On the male-to-male side, I honestl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:48 AM
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Eh, if everything is closed in your city anyways, I don't see the harm. It's not like you'd be making better use of that time.
/r/askTRP03/08/20 11:29 AM
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Dawg I don't even have social media and I do plenty fine. I know some other guys who can say the same irl. You don't need social media to bang chicks, unless you're trying to bang them through social media. Even when I did have social media all my accounts were private & I didn't really ever have plates or FWBs try to add me.
/r/askTRP03/08/20 11:28 AM
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The most attractive women aren't easiest to close, but they're easiest to open because they're used to men approaching them and have the least to prove. The world is nicest to them. So they will be most graceful in rejection. The other point you make--I feel that way too. I feel most genuine when speaking to women I truly find more attractive, and that authentic feeling I get leads everything to be smoother and me to be more natural. It's pretty normal to feel that way among the hot girls.
/r/askTRP03/08/20 11:24 AM
1

My wife came from a dysfunctional and dirt poor family, but that made her more determined to escape that environment Lol, that's more like my side of the equation in my scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:20 AM
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They continually talk about how looks (and arguably status) come first, because that's what gets your foot in the door, and then game comes after that. I consider looks and status to be 'the product' and your game to be 'the sales team.' The best sales team can sell an awful product repeatedly. The best product can be sold by the worst sales team. The most killer combo is a great product & sales team. Various combinations below the extremes will have various results. Likewise some consumers are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:18 AM
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TRP acknowledges that you can only up your physical appearance about 1-2 points (making a 6/10 into a 7/10-8/10) without expensive surgery. This is pretty dependent upon where you start. If you don't comb your hair, if you wear baggy t-shirts, if you look anorexic because you're 6' 150 pounds--and then hit the gym and get jacked + start taking care of yourself. You'll probably go from a 3 to a 7. But yes if you're a 6 originally it's not like you'll just become a 9/10 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:15 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/VQtTYZI OP posted it elsewhere in the thread. That's the link^
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 11:10 AM
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The girl is evaluating the guy’s SMV differently than you are.
/r/askTRP03/08/20 02:30 AM
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Looks and charisma too. Not like 20 y/o autists can pull chicks. But yeah ‘resources’ ultimately prove to be more of a beta trait. Even if it gets a dude laid, if she’s there due to money, it’s not a good sign
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 11:42 PM
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If we successfully reverse aging, I'm sure we can also reprogram our genes to make ourselves all look attractive. Yeah I was kinda thinking that. Corny as it sounds, I'd still like for both myself and my LTR to stay how we look now. For some reason staying looking like you did in your 20s--while still also fake--seems more real than just re-programming myself to look better. I don't think I'd get behind that. I wouldn't even feel like I was myself anymore. (Now, if the re-programming could just …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:43 PM
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For his age? I don't think you'll find many dudes his age that look better. If he hits the gym in college (looks like the type that will) he's going to look really good in a few years. I wish I could post a pic of myself when I was 16 and 21 here for comparison, but I don't want to dox myself lol. A lot of these dudes look better than I did when I was 16. A pic of me from when I was 21 got rated on TrueRateMe and it got a 6.5. A 6.5 on the Lookism scale is most people's 8 or so... and I was ugly…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:47 PM
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To be fair most of the women are pretty average too. If I had to rate them all, I'd go (Male rating first, then female) Pic 1: 3, 6 Pic 2: 5, 7 Pic 3: 7, 8 Pic 4: 5, 5 Pic 5: 6.5, 6.5 Pic 6: 5, 5 Pic 7: 5, 5 Pic 8: 4, 4 Pic 9: 5, 5 Pic 10: 5, 4 Pic 11: 4, 7 I think it mostly just shows that men need to age into their appearance. Lot of these dudes will look better in 5 years, especially pic 3. I could see the last guy getting fit instead of fat, too, and 'glowing up.' He looks pretty confident. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:40 PM
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What about the guy in the last pic? How is his game/alphaness? He looks like a goob, but the way he carries himself I'd think he's at least confident. I'd bet on him and the guy in the 3rd pic having the best "game."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:35 PM
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So the guy in the 3rd pic is a 5? Check back in with him when he's 24. Very good looking for his age... notice how he's with the best looking girl too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:31 PM
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The guy in the 3rd pic is going to be good looking as fuck when he's 24. Notice how he's with the most attractive girl too. No way he's a 6 unless you're on a bullshit Lookism scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:28 PM
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Most of those couples are not mismatched, only about 3 of them actually are (1st guy, second guy, last guy). Also, consider that women look better at 16-18 than men do. These boys all look like goofy children--because they are. These women will only look mildly better by time they're 21. Worse by time they're 27. Also consider that nobody knows their worth at that age. Let's run through some people in my HS versus where they are a few years later (all 22): Me: Kissless virgin --> have been in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:22 PM
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It's high school. People are figuring things out. Experimenting. It's all practice. Sometimes a young guy will date an ugly girl to work out the kinks but that's all. There's no long term investment there. Agreed here... HSers do not know their worth. Two of my friends in HS were kinda ugly but dated two of the most attractive girls in our school. At the time, I thought, "wow, they must really have great game. Personality really is all that matters." Yeah, both of them got into LTRs their freshm…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:15 PM
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There are a lot of woman with low n-counts out there, but most of them are off-the-market very fast (AKA they are in a LTR with someone). Sure, these LTRs may end and the people be back on the market, but these women don't usually turn to hookup-to-hookup phase. Yeah, I'm firmly RP, but I have thought RP misses one thing. "Wait until you're 35 and your market value will be the highest." Whether or not that's true (debatable), it is shitty advice if you want an LTR. Why? Because desirable, attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:11 PM
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HS is nothing like the real dating world. Wait until you get to college to form real opinions. These girls are still supervised by their parents and inexperienced with what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:00 PM
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Yeah, that's fair. I'm probably more of the 'baseline vanilla' and weekly crazy thing, which is more maintainable for most girls. I'm sure you can find someone who's a match tho. Women tend to 'follow the leader,' so if you become (or are) a leader, you shouldn't have much trouble finding a good follower.
/r/askTRP02/08/20 03:55 PM
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Dunno. My LTR would do pretty much anything I asked sexually. Only been in one LTR tho so apparently that's not the norm based off what I've heard. Personally I'd just next a chick who didn't do what I wanted, don't see much reason to pick just one if that's not the case.
/r/askTRP02/08/20 03:47 PM
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See that makes the most sense. That's the route I want to go down. Working for other people truly sucks--currently doing that, and even if I'm "making money," it's just no way to live. Just want to earn some start-up capital to go my own way.
/r/askTRP02/08/20 01:29 PM
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What kind of jobs is everyone here doing that has them "on their mission" and "making money"? I just don't see too many jobs out there that are truly fulfilling, and money beyond a certain point is pretty useless. I mean, I guess a billion dollars would give you a lot of power, which could be cool--but I don't really care about reaching that (and I doubt I could if I tried). In any case not everyone here can be making 7 figures by any means. I just picture a lot of people trying to climb the cor…
/r/askTRP02/08/20 12:58 PM
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"I don't use IG social media is pretty lame" There's nothing wrong with not using it.
/r/askTRP01/08/20 10:20 PM
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Yeah... even 5’5” is bottom 7.3 percentile. It’s understandable why someone in the bottom 10th would struggle—it’s not a bug in the system lol. And even at 5’5” you’re not cripplingly unable to succeee.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:04 PM
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To answer more of the question you're getting at than the title question, I think the difference in men and women's utility of a relationship is why their needs to maintain it are different. In theory a man only has to give as much as he's willing to give resource-wise to have sex. He can't really be coerced into giving more, more than the maximum amount he's willing to be coerced into it (typically proportionate to how much he thinks she's worth). And in return he gets what he wants out of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:33 PM
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Well, my LTR had sex with me before commitment lol. Commitment came way later. But she was like a HB6 when I met her and very low n-count. She dropped a little fat and got fit and it made a huge difference. She was literally never single while being as hot as she is now; but still, she had a low n-count. Just 2 prior. If she'd been as attractive then as now her n-count would probably have been 1 and she'd have stayed with the guy, whoever it was--she doesn't really seek out sex but couldn't lock…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:35 PM
2

Organ harvesting from animals or lab-grown "donor bodies"? Honestly, I am okay with that. The pros outweigh the cons, even if it's a little morally questionable. From other people who cannot afford to live forever? Yeah, that's a bit fucked up. Would probably start a war lol. I don't think that's a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 05:02 PM
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at least not ethically Eh, fuck ethics, I'm all for unethical immortality lmao. best we can do for now is wear sunscreen and stay healthy & skinny, etc I hear you. Been working on it. My parents aged great for their generation (almost 60 now) and looking at them compared to others their age... I could never let myself go lol. It just seems so much better to at least look like them than to be the bald, fat, wrinkly people who let themselves go that so many 56-59 year olds seem to be. Of course lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:55 PM
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Lmao. Yeah, two tall people really have a "power couple" dynamic going a lot of the time. If she wasn't with me I'd easily see her with a guy who's 6'2"+ (even though she doesn't really care about height much). Just because those men are both most attracted to her and generally most attractive themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:38 PM
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Well, if it started to truly be miserable, I'm sure I'll have enough money for a gun and the balls to pull the trigger (on myself). But otherwise I at least personally would definitely be willing to fight and take risks to live forever. Death is so... final. An opportunity to avoid it would be an opportunity I would gladly take, no matter the odds or potential side effects. But what you say is true. Completely reverting 70 y/os to 20 is a hell of a lot more difficult than reverting them a decade…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:30 PM
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5'9" is like the top tallest 2-3% of women, so yes. A male equivalent would be a guy who's like 6'3" or 6'4", by percentile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:25 PM
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Lmao. I think an interesting addition to this is that women's faces look better when being looked down on to men. No time to grab the link but it's been studied--women's faces look best when viewed from a downward angle. Interestingly I've noticed a trend. My LTR is 5'9". Any friend I have 5'11" or so and above thinks she's extremely hot. Guys I know who are 5'4"-5'8" say "yeah, I guess she's a 7." Their angle to look at her sucks. They're getting under-chin lmao. She's just too big for them. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:24 PM
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Nah, I get that. I'm just saying that there's really no risk in being part of the "early days" of something like that. Best case: it works, and you live indefinitely. Worst case: you still die. There's a huge net positive to be had and not much of a net negative possible, so I think people will approve of it being used before it's truly understood rather quickly for that reason. Even if the initial implementations of it truly suck, people would rather indulge a pipe dream than just die imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:12 PM
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I mean to be honest everyone has their own definition of beta these days. For clarity purposes, I'll just say mine: Beta: supplicating puts others before himself lacks drive / ambition seeks the happiness others want for him, rather than what he wants for himself settles rather than achives complains rather than problem-solves That's a rough idea of how I view "beta." Alpha would be the opposite. Of course, this means two things: 1. A lot of things fall outside the spectrum of being alpha or bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:10 PM
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Also height doesnt take in consideration frame This part is very true. I wouldn't want to be my height and narrow, but I'm pretty bulky even when "out of shape." That definitely offsets some of the height that I lack. I still look masculine even if not tall. In a real fight, my build is very effective--low center of gravity, lot of bulk. Like an NFL RB (but not jacked, lol). And I think subconsciously the reason women like "size" is just that--physical protection instincts. My build doesn't lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 04:04 PM
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Hmm, idk. I'm not a big cuddler but I still don't see it as being beta. It sounds like affection. I guess it depends how you do it. Or who does it. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:57 PM
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even then we'd need decades to study the long term effects I don't think we'd have a shortage of people ready to volunteer to be tested. If you're old and going to die soon anyways, why not "give it a shot"--worst that can happen is it fails and you still die.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:56 PM
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"The Wall" would disappear. Women born attractive--if that still mattered--would be able to capitalize on it forever. They'd probably enjoy a lot of attention forever. I, however, would be thrilled. I don't want my LTR to get old. Or to get old myself. It may sound weird, but it annoys me that I had the high value to attract a great, very hot woman for an LTR who dated me from 19-22 (and ongoing) and that one day my only options will be "accept that she's not as hot now" or "replace her." Honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:54 PM
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Age gap relationships might be super common because everyone looks the same age and there are no aging signs to stop attraction from forming Lmao. "I'm 730, and my BF is 1450. Is this too big of an age gap to date? Will he be chased away because I don't understand what the bronze age was?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:49 PM
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men being caring. like with kids, pets, stuff like that makes me want to rip his clothes off him. I don't think that's a beta trait tbh. Beta is more about being supplicating and such. You can care and be a leader. Caring for youth / animals and leading them is very alpha. A "mentor" type. I'm very caring towards young people and animals--most influential person in my 10-year-old niece's life & always had pets, dogs/cats--and I don't think anyone would really call me beta lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:47 PM
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I'm attracted to a shit ton of men under 6 feet tall. I'm a man but I'll second this. Most commonly reiterated bullshit I see. I'm 5'9" and do fine. I know lots of men both above and below 6' who defy what their height says they should get if heightism was that real. Is it nice for women? Sure, but other factors certainly weigh in more. Disclaimer: if you're 5'2" it might be a detriment. How many men are 5'2" though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:45 PM
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Who's to say I haven't seen that? Those women are also typically idiots that you can see through.
/r/askTRP01/08/20 01:59 PM
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But that goes back to then only screening for one thing. I’d rather a good, hot LTR than a rich one. But you do you.
/r/askTRP01/08/20 01:15 PM
1

I think less women are truly crazy than are not, even if all women have at least some degrees of neurotic tendencies. But “crazy genes” don’t spare people by social classes
/r/askTRP01/08/20 01:00 PM
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How do you plan to screen for only children tho? The correct point you made was organizations. I met my LTR at college, where like half the white people (no, literally) were top 1%ers. So many had similar. Outside somewhere like that, tho, it’s definitely uncommon
/r/askTRP01/08/20 12:57 PM
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I assume you need to be on the inner circle for sororities tho right? If you meet them, no. The reason they bang frat guys is only partially because they seek out frat guys to bang. The other is that they're at our parties, meeting us, and they're highly promiscuous girls. They'd be similar if you met them--maybe a nudge more difficult for you because you can't just drop "oh yeah I'm Sig Nu." Source: was in a frat
/r/askTRP01/08/20 06:18 AM
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If you start probing you can find a woman with seven figures in the bank from her parents without too many other problems There's not a lot of people out there like this. Unless you set it as your sole mission you're likely not going to find it. Source: dating a girl like this. Her parents earn in the top 1%, invested well throughout their lives, and she's an only child. She's still scraping the really low end of this. Less than 1% of people get this.
/r/askTRP01/08/20 06:14 AM
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Eh, grew up lower class, went to college with all UMC people. Some straight up upper class. I side with the other guy. Craziness is equally dispersed among all classes--it does manifest differently tho. For example: UMC Girl: probably won't have your baby and become a single mom, but will accuse you of rape (because she thinks of herself as a vulnerable princess). Will get visually mad if you say you don't support feminism. May hit men. May threaten other lawsuits or throw tantrums or whatever. …
/r/askTRP01/08/20 06:10 AM
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Honestly I rec dating up in class more than dating down. If you date up in class, you know she's into you for more than just what you provide. Because you don't really provide anything she doesn't have. If you date down, chances are that's why she's there. For some reason tho I've always had a hard time dating downward in social class at all. Even if I'm somewhat out of place with UMC types because I grew up in a lower-middle class household, I still hold my own just fine because the way I speak…
/r/askTRP01/08/20 06:04 AM
1

If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't. You may or may not find what you're looking for there--that's true of anywhere you look for anything. Just don't go into it trying to force anything. Be open and sociable and let cards fall as they may and any event can be worth it. Edit: I didn't watch the video. Judging by the other comments looks like there's a component of money involved here. Yeah, don't waste money on meeting women. You can meet them free tons of ways.
/r/askTRP01/08/20 05:55 AM
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It's not that common The people who do it are quite weird... or low value. There's not a lot to learn from their psychology other than thinking, "would a high value high self-esteem man act like this?" And then you have your answer for the only thing you need to think about it.
/r/askTRP01/08/20 05:52 AM
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Social circle / shared activities / college class aka someone to whom you’re not a random stranger
/r/askTRP31/07/20 03:48 AM
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This is for you to decide. What are your other options? How do they compare? What do you like? Ask yourself these questions.
/r/askTRP31/07/20 12:54 AM
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Warm approach - 10 Cold approach - 5 Tinder - 10 Rough breakdown for me. Just like income, multiple streams leads to the highest amount
/r/askTRP30/07/20 10:58 PM
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I think that you framed this poorly judging by the answers you’re getting. The key part of a woman finding a BB is convincing him that he’s not a BB, that she doesn’t think she’s settling. You pulled back the curtain in this question—it’s in the man’s face. Ask him if he could be tricked into BBing this woman, he’ll still say no. Put him out into the wild, let him do as he may, and a lot of guys would go for this girl. And they’d have no idea he wasn’t her ideal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:15 PM
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Your types are solid but I always thought of it like this: If a guy has a lot of sex, much lower chance he watches porn If a guy is very industrious, much lower chance he watches porn If a guy is very religious, much lower chance he watches porn If a guy ticks none of those boxes, much higher chance he watches porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:58 PM
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What are we qualifying as “doesn’t watch porn” here? I don’t think any man with an internet connection can honestly say he’s never done it. But I don’t think doing it a few times means you “watch porn.” Are you a “smoker” if you smoke a cigar on special occasions 3x per year? Don’t think so. Personally I think how much men watch porn is overhyped. I mean, I guess I can’t speak for everyone, but personally I maybe watch it 3-5x per year and have gone full years without it. Didn’t even watch it un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:52 PM
5

There is nothing wrong in complaining about an unfair system. Women get a free pass for everything, men are heavily punished for being men and desiring love and respect. This is the point. The system is unfair to beta men, not alphas. You can criticize it, but you should be trying to conquer it--not complain about it. That's very feminine. And the system isn't changing in our lifetimes. You can still live a good life if you achieve a high SMV and have charisma. Frame + outcome independence = you…
/r/askTRP30/07/20 12:23 PM
1

What?
/r/askTRP30/07/20 10:55 AM
74

Imo men today are just fucking weak. And it bleeds over into the men who find TRP too. I'll admit I bitched a bit when I first found TRP too, but now it's like they all gather around in a circle for a pity party. Has more shades of incel than I remember it having. I found this stuff back in like 2014. If I posted some of the more pathetic shit I see posted here now, I feel like I would have been torn a new asshole. TRP is about understanding the SMP and learning to master it... not resenting it …
/r/askTRP30/07/20 01:59 AM
166

Not sure if I’m just getting older and less tolerant of it, but: I feel like I see an awful lot more fretting about how women’s standards are “so damn unreasonably high” and the like opposed to men just accepting the world as it is and seeking to be high value.
/r/askTRP30/07/20 01:52 AM
5

"Beta Enough, Alpha Fucks" Hmm... just doesn't have the same ring to it... lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:42 AM
1

You can be a BB and not really fulfill the "bucks" aspect of it. It's just a catchy saying. Betas can also provide comfort and stability. It essentially is more about the lack of "fucks" than the presence of "bucks." Obviously men who make more money tend to be more alpha too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:41 AM
2

Why are you aiming so low? Get off the internet. I've never had abs in my life. I'm also not 6 feet tall. I've hooked up with plenty of girls and have a HB8 LTR. This isn't to say I'm completely average or anything--I've got some traits going for me--but you don't need to "be it all" to do well with women is the point.
/r/askTRP30/07/20 01:37 AM
1

Ah that makes sense. Well you did well at role-playing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:53 PM
4

I don’t view racism as inherently linked to a traditional society. Neither do I view disliking LGBTQ individuals as being part of that. You can have one without the other—especially the racism bit. But I think you could have both. I don’t see what about it would imply that you could not have both, other than the fact that at one point we had both. But that’s like saying you can’t have modern dating styles without protests against police brutality. Which just doesn’t add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:32 PM
19

All is fair in love & war. I don’t think fairness should be the goal. The goal should simply be maximum happiness for the most people (utilitarianism). As for how to make that happen, look no further than the 1950s. A few people suffered and strived for change because they didn’t like it, but overall happiness was much higher. Fuck the few.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:09 PM
1

the fact that you use it negatively says a lot I do use negative terms negatively, yes. "I feel bad for her." Well, she feels bad for you, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:07 PM
1

Can women not agree with a man? She doesn’t have a high opinion of women with a high n-count. She’s an attractive woman that could easily rack up a high n-count and chooses to be in an LTR. Why would she disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:44 PM
1

We talk about this stuff. Here is what she says: “I agree.” She’s pretty much RP without the label (because I don’t label it).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:38 PM
1

Actually her count is 3 lol. I was just saying I’d probably accept up to 5 or 6. At least at my age, the girls with anything more tend to be a certain kind of person, which is not a person I like for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:48 AM
1

Unless you’re also a man with an n-count like mine (you’re not), at best this is a theoretical take. In practice, it doesn’t go like this. I’ve fucked a few girls with low n-counts, and my LTR’s is 3. She’s not bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:46 AM
6

How does this not tell you all you need to know? Men gaining n-count correlates to increased confidence correlates to higher attractiveness—you admitted it yourself. Women gaining n-count correlates to infidelity, feminism, treating partner as worse and more disposable correlates to unattractive. I’m more attractive now. My match is a low n-count girl because she’s more attractive too. Win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:54 AM
3

To be fair 6k seems like a low # compared to some I’ve heard about. Depending how many and what type of people go he may recoup a lot of it too. But marriage is still a bad idea
/r/askTRP29/07/20 03:51 AM
7

Well, when I had a 0 n-count, nobody wanted me. Now with a 25 n-count, I have an LTR and have new girls show interest all the time. If you don’t want men to have high n-counts, tell your gender to stop selecting for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:46 AM
4

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:41 AM
4

22M, n-count of 25, don’t expect it to grow so much in the future because it’s mostly out of my system. Could see myself capping off my life w/ 35 or less even if I could get way more N-count preference 5 or 6 and below. Best for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:31 AM
9

I hear that women who’ve fucked 100 dudes make great moms
/r/askTRP28/07/20 11:30 PM
2

I can't guarantee you success because that'd be dishonest. I will say that it comes for more people who truly work at it than it doesn't. As for how that change comes about, it'll be different person to person as it mostly has to do with figuring out which flaws of yours are preventing you at the moment from succeeding with women. The change is both in routine and internal. I have a better "routine" now that I use as a go-to to move from Point A to B to C, but the reason I carry it out well is a…
/r/askTRP28/07/20 11:16 PM
2

Yeah, I love the concept. I, like you, know a fair few amount of dudes lined up to make 6 figures out of college who can't talk to a woman to save their lives--many of them not even ugly, good-looking guys at that. Meanwhile I implement personal worth--as you refer to it as entitlement--and I've been with many-a-woman with vastly more resources than myself.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 09:39 PM
1

Well, keep thinking about it because that's the only way to improve. It clicks sooner for some than others. I found TRP when I was 16. I couldn't start implementing it until 18 (people in HS had already formed opinions of me). I didn't see any good success until I was probably 20. I'm 22 now. It takes a while.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 09:37 PM
7

Remember if you are not red pill aware, you will start failing shit tests after you get them without ever knowing what you are doing wrong. Yeah, shit-tests don't make a lot of sense if you're not natural or "game aware." Once you invite them into your life you need to be living the type of lifestyle that keeps them interested On this, I subscribe to the school of: build a personal worth. Many men have low personal worth, so they believe they need to make a certain amount of money, have a certai…
/r/askTRP28/07/20 06:41 PM
12

Tbh I don't endorse the "women are very hard to attract" mindset because, once you get it, it's the easiest thing in the world. The problem is getting there. Because it's so hidden, most men don't even realize they're not doing it. The average beta male who fucks 5 girls his whole life--4 LTRs and one drunken ONS he lucks into--is typically shocked when he learns that most women do quite a bit more than that. Then he ends up here.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 06:29 PM
7

A good modern woman is a dinosaur A dinosaur that isn't extinct, but is incredibly rare in the wild. Even difficult to spot in captivity. Most "good women" nowadays are going to be in an LTR. That's just a fact. And if you think that's fine because you can just take her from her current LTR... Well, that wouldn't be a good woman, now would it be?
/r/askTRP28/07/20 06:25 PM
2

an ounce of respect for anyone but themselves. Are you sure they have respect for themselves?
/r/askTRP28/07/20 06:21 PM
17

I used to think in school that with all the guys chasing all the girls that we would all start to pair up. I had no idea that the girls really had no intention of getting with a decent dude. That they first wanted to run around having all the fun they could before settling down when they got older and used. Relatable. In HS, I didn't talk to girls really much at all. So I just thought my friends who I've since realized were just orbiters "got girls" because a lot of girls texted them and shit. A…
/r/askTRP28/07/20 06:19 PM
1

Agreed but it can go the other way too. Probably more common in the direction you suggested tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 06:13 PM
3

Agreed. Mostly because a large portion of men want to have sex but can’t obtain it in any decent portion without commitment. Therefore...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 02:44 PM
2

Yeah, we're all virgins. Nothing to see here. Carry on.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:44 PM
-2

It doesn't really work like this. It's complicated. A man with maximum amounts of any singular category doesn't need much else, and he'll probably still do well. A 10/10 looking male, a billionaire, a famous musician... can completely fail in every other regard. But anyone else would need to be balanced. If you're not maxing out categories, you need some presence of all of them. I don't support the endeavor because it's very autistic. But if you really wanted, I think a true SMV formula may have…
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:43 PM
3

Men almost always cheat with less attractive women. It's because men value someone who values them and is emotionally warm and kind. Or it's because they'd have difficulty pulling a more attractive woman. Given that men are gatekeepers of commitment and women are gatekeepers of sex, most men end up dating their "best option." That's going to be difficult to outdo when you cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:28 PM
3

That's a general rule because most men tend to be betas. I'm in sales myself and most of the time, yes, this is true. Still, there's probably more cases where this isn't true than you'd think. Split may be 25:75 or so, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:25 PM
5

This is true but value within relationships can be quite subjective. It's more about how the two participants view it than anything based in reality. I think everyone has a fair few tales of "this relationship makes no sense because the guy is average and broke! but the girl is so much better! yet she's whipped!" Or, the inverse. The girl has no business having the power in the relationship, yet somehow, she still does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:18 PM
3

Yeah man, haven’t you heard? Roll up to the club with openness and honesty. That’s what chicks want now, not looks/status/game/etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:10 PM
4

Yeah exactly... these comments be like "oh nooo it may ruin the LTR." Yeah, not having a job will ruin the LTR too. If it crumbles, it crumbles. No reason to turn down the job just because a girl you fuck works there.
/r/askTRP28/07/20 02:23 AM
10

If you need a job, take the job. They’re not easy to come by right now
/r/askTRP28/07/20 01:38 AM
4

I don’t think so. I’ve got friends all over the alpha/beta spectrum. Think most non-rejects are like me. Honestly male friends are mostly based on convenience and proximity
/r/askTRP27/07/20 09:52 PM
6

Not everything is “alpha” or “beta.” Maybe he just truly thinks it’s a savvy career move to be associated with higher level actors. Maybe he is a beta pussy. Who knows. You’d have to know him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 07:42 PM
2

The Sidebar
/r/askTRP27/07/20 07:39 PM
4

If you want to score, you have to shoot Sometimes you don’t want to score though, and that’s okay
/r/askTRP27/07/20 07:16 PM
1

The Last American Virgin AF/BB: the movie
/r/askTRP27/07/20 06:46 PM
1

Yeah, which is why 1. We assume (most) girls at our parties are hoes and 2. I LTR’d a girl who was anti-Greek Life (even if other guys in my frat gave me shit for it) Though I wouldn’t call the men low caliber. Majority of men in my frat were rich out the ass and good looking with good social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:37 PM
5

I actually researched about exactly this recently and found some interesting results. Because you meet the highest volume of people during college, and because you likely date from around 16-30 (or shift the numbers elsewhere in other cases, but most normal is about 14 years probably), you're actually most likely to meet your highest quality partner during college. While that doesn't need to be the case, there's about a 50% chance of it, roughly. While the strategy relies on your complete unawar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:09 PM
2

What is the difference what age I am? If I kept doing the exact shit I did when I was 21, and repeated it over a 10-year span, I would fuck 150 attractive girls. Why do I need to fuck those 150 girls to demonstrate that I could do it, when I already have a repeatable process that would reliably lead me to that result. Would you rather listen to a 22-year-old Ken Griffey Jr. talk about how to play in the MLB, or a 40-year-old career minor leaguer? I've already done things most men will never do. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:55 PM
1

This reminds me of what I perceive the flaw of that infamous OKCupid study showing that women rate a majority of men to be below average, and only men above a certain percentile to be attractive at all. If half the population is overweight, no shit half the population would get rated as below average. Overweight is below a 5. That doesn't prove that women's standards are unrealistic; but rather, that few men can meet reasonable standards. If half the population is overweight, it just logically f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:45 PM
1

if you really tried in college and got only 15 in a single year... college and school is when it is going to be the EASIEST time in your life to get pussy I've never been a fan of night game, met most women just through shared social activities. I can still join shit and meet people after college. it's also not like 'omg woahhhh legend' either Didn't say I was a legend. But to act like I'm clueless is far from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:00 PM
4

While that all sounds nice in theory, in practice I've had opportunities to LTR numerous low-n women. My real LTR's n-count is 3. Even if some women do discriminate against it, enough don't that it will never make a tangible difference to a high n-count man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:23 PM
1

25 over 4 years is 50 over 8 years and 100 over 16 years... and like I said, I probably rejected more than I didn't. While, yes, I know people above these #s--how many people? And how many with higher quality women? You're going to get a slim number. The only year I truly "tried" I got 15 of those 25, and my freshman year I still hadn't learned how any of this worked and only got 1. If I wanted, my n-count could be 60 in a year. But I don't fuck women to prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:21 PM
1

My boyfriend and I met because of another guy in his fraternity and there was a wide array of men there. Most of the guys have high n-counts including himself and they do not seem to concern themselves with this. I NEVER hear any of them bring it up and I'm sure most of them don't care, nor do they ask such personal questions of the women they date. As a man who was in a fraternity at a school with a big Greek Life system, yes we do. We just don't do it to your face. Would you like to see our em…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:10 PM
2

Eh, you're overestimating how difficult it is for some men. My n-count was 25 in college while turning down at least as many women and juggling an LTR (she was fine with it). I never stepped out of my way even slightly to pursue it. It was an investment of about 50 hours across 4 years. I agree that men who either lower their standards to achieve it, or who make pursuing pussy their life's goal chase away women--but men who passively receive solid pussy for existing will never raise a red flag f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 02:02 PM
7

Yeah I don't get how some men can possibly think this. Women will voice a preference against a high n-count, but when it comes in the shape and form of the man of their desires (it does), rather than just the same average dude who lowered his standards to bang subpar chicks, they'll find 1,000 reasons to rationalize it away. It's not like men, whose n-count standards are more fixed regardless of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 01:57 PM
1

Not as hard to establish this as you may think
/r/askTRP27/07/20 01:24 PM
3

Realize it’s an illusion and the utility of these women that you want is merely the children they can provide you. Absent a desire to procreate with them, the urge and their true utility are misaligned.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 01:23 PM
3

No just be an incel
/r/askTRP27/07/20 01:21 PM
2

A year of dating is not 0 experience. Weren't you one of the ones who criticized me for saying a 4-year LTR and a high n-count didn't qualify as being experienced LOL. Only reason I even commented. Had to throw some bait out. Also, marriage still isn't a golden standard. Nobody would say Brad Pitt is bad at dating, and he's had a few divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 12:22 PM
3

Lots of people go into marriages with literally 0 experience outside maybe a year dating, and it’s quite possible for them to be fine. Marriage is far from a gold standard of dating. I don’t even ever want one lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 11:22 AM
9

Physique: lightly chubby, "dad bod" Frame: nonexistent, and will get pissy if challenged (or with women, will become submissive) Carries himself: nothing terrible but not confidently Compared to a completed RP man? That man would outdo the average man on all these fronts. But the average man who reads this content is probably somewhere between the idealized RP man and the average man.
/r/askTRP27/07/20 02:20 AM
3

Lmao, honestly that's just the type of shit I say when girls try to give me shit. Like, you can't take them serious, so if they're gonna say some dumb shit, I'm gonna say some dumb shit back lmao
/r/askTRP27/07/20 02:13 AM
5

if said girl told you for example that she just sees you as a boy in the middle of a conflict to try and emasculate you how would you react "Well that makes you a pedophile then" lmao
/r/askTRP27/07/20 01:47 AM
9

You're right that this sub proclaims your need to dash away from any woman at the slightest sign of trouble, which isn't that realistic. Some of your other takes are a bit off. For example: > every 7/10 woman perceives herself as a rockstar Not exactly. A minority have a level head. In any case, I don't know what you really want us to tell you. It's your job to decide which yellow flags you can deal with, and which will cause you to flee. Vetting is something you have to undertake on your own, a…
/r/askTRP27/07/20 01:40 AM
0

Inevitably one woman does become the one to put an end to it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:29 PM
3

Because marriage and having kids = experience dating. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:58 PM
0

Lmao. Gotta stalk every post I make now, do you? For an oldie, you sure are acting very immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:57 PM
1

“I’ve got several LTRs under my belt” That is a worse # than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:09 PM
1

Other men. They’re all gay
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 06:06 PM
3

Because the views are not hypocritical, and what about accepting a man’s views is low value? Wanting to force your worldview on a man is what’s low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:58 PM
1

Never met one like that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:52 PM
6

Yes, LTR only. Idc about n-count for sex. Just LTRs. And that’s great for men if they lose the ability to pair bond. I haven’t. IMO the fact I can even have this opinion and execute it with HVW speaks volumes. If it was so hypocritical and bad, it wouldn’t be reinforced
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:51 PM
1

Definitely not. And I don’t think it’s hypocritical. Because n-count means different things for different genders. I ask for very few of the requirements women ask for, and they ask for very few of the ones I do as well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:45 PM
3

What is your current body count? Roughly 25, don't count And is 0-6 for women your age? I date women who are 18-22, so yes. Though I'd expect an 18 or 19 y/o to be in the lower end of that scale. Don't know how it'll change as I get older. I'm not older yet. How would you explain your preference for 0-6 then? The number is a bit arbitrary, but by having sex with them (and them dating other people I know, but not me), I've seen first-hand that high n-count women do not make good LTR partners. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:35 PM
1

Yes, men do trumpet their virtue in absence of things that "ruin" it. They think women have a strong distaste for men with high n-counts, and thus by not being one, they're offering something of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:29 PM
3

I don't know a hard-cap. Probably 0-6 is ideal. I'm a 22M. Beyond 6 i'd likely have some serious questions, 4+ I'd have a few questions, 3 and under is all the same to me. I don't care. No, I still wouldn't want to be with someone above a certain limit. No, it's not insecurity. Why does my preference have to come from insecurity? Am I insecure because I like hot women more than average women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:26 PM
1

Disowned, no contact, no inheritance, no questions asked. Unacceptable behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:22 PM
1

Whatever you say lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:16 PM
2

Posts like these always skip over the fact that sex and dating are indeed a marketplace. Nobody is obligated to accept less than their desires if they are capable of achieving them. Nobody is able to acquire their desires if they're incapable of achieving them. What people list as their standards does not matter. You can filter for anything you want. You owe nobody anything. And nobody knows you anything. Ironically I'm saying that as a bit of a hypocrite in this regard. The home I came from was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:16 PM
2

So you think the average 40 y/o has an n-count above 25? That’s ridiculous. And you said I’m the one with no experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:02 PM
1

Yes and my n-count is 25 and I’ve been in a multiple year LTR too. That’s more experience than many people 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:00 PM
3

The average lifetime n-count is nowhere near 25, and I have an n-count of 25, mostly encompassing pretty attractive women. I’ve also been in an LTR for multiple years and it’s vastly smoother than the things I’ve read about online, or seen from other people my age or even older. Age =/= knowledge or wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:58 PM
1

How so? I have more dating experience than most people twice my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:44 PM
2

And do you think I'm unaware of subtlety? I am 22. Nobody in my age range has been with somebody for 10 years yet. The longest relationships I know of that also ended have been like 2 years. I'm not a fan of baggage though regardless of its form. I'm already in an LTR, and she has an n-count of 2 besides me and no previous relationships. Based on how well it's gone, I would prefer somebody like that again, if this relationship failed in the future. Women with baggage of any sort seem like a red …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:40 PM
1

That's fair--age is very relevant. When I am 30, I don't know what my opinions will be of, say, a 27 y/o woman. I've never been in that position. But I do agree--I really don't know any women at all my age who have fucked a lot of guys and seem functional as LTRs. But, I suppose, the women who are at 25 dudes by 21 years old are more so the women who fuck 50-100 dudes in their lifetime, than they are the women who actually fuck 25 dudes in their lifetime. I guess it's important to keep in perspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:36 PM
1

Interesting. I've not experienced anything of the sort. IME, tbh, high n-count women have fucked better. I just don't decide who to LTR based on who can suck my dick and fuck me the best. I consider that a skill I can teach somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:32 PM
4

Cool so then men don't get better as they age, right? Picked the wrong person to say that to because I'm one of the few who doesn't subscribe to that either. Women mainly fuck dudes of a similar age to them, usually between 0-6 years or so older. The whole "you will be a virgin from 18-30 and fuck tons of pussy when you're 40" narrative doesn't strike me as being particularly realistic. In some ways you do build value over years--being 23 and broke is worse than being 30 and wealthy, if you look…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:28 PM
12

I hate this analogy Yes, women do always hate the car analogy. I've not met a woman who likes it. The commoditization of women as a car that you buy really rubs people the wrong way It's called the sexual marketplace, no? Men are commodities too. We're just not purchasing men and women for money, but rather, we pay in other ways. First, having sex with one partner 1000 times before you meet puts just as much "mileage" on her as having sex 1000 times with five partners for example Who decided thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:15 PM
18

Experienced man here. No, I dislike women having extensive pasts too. No, Idgaf if she “had better sex” or whatever. I don’t even think about that part. It’s more like... I am just averse to it and have the option to not date them. If you could buy a new car and a used car for the same price, who would buy a used car? Well, technically in that analogy, my LTR would be a “used car.” But she’s like a Lambo with 10k miles on it. Still better than a brand new Honda Civic. Honestly, the car analogy m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:47 PM
5

Why is it depressing to not want to date people you’re not attracted to? The opposite seems like the depressing scenario
/r/askTRP26/07/20 03:14 PM
15

As a person? Non-hot girls can have value. In dating? For an attractive guy? Hell no.
/r/askTRP26/07/20 02:10 PM
7

“Posting their ass on social media” Any time I see those pics from a girl dating a guy I just think about my LTR’s nudes and if she was basically posting shit a small step away for the public to see. I feel you. It’d absolutely repulse me
/r/askTRP26/07/20 02:09 PM
2

It depends if you live near them or not imo. I dislike my LTR’s family, but I live 2,000 miles away, so I never even have to see them. If they lived down the street, that’d change the equation
/r/askTRP26/07/20 02:05 PM
1

Well, personally, I think I would have gotten one of those ‘ideal’ women back then. And I’d probably trade all of my notches to do so, even if they were fun to accrue. Not everyone who sees the system as bad struggles within it. And not every TRP man even opposes this system
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:46 PM
2

Just graduated myself too. Gonna miss the gold mine that was college. As for explaining without offending... I was just incredibly blunt. Things (that were true of me) like: “I feel like I’m too young to date and don’t really like the idea, but I do like you.” “Famous men’s wives allow it to happen, and I don’t want to accept any treatment worse than those guys would get.” “I’ve never LTR’d anybody before and I’m really strict about who I would... this still is favorable to you.” “Despite wantin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:10 PM
6

Any sober environment in real life. It’s not like every girl you’ll meet that way will be great, but they’ll be present unlike on Tinder, and they’ll be more likely to be found unlike in a bar (because a ‘good girl’ may still go to a bar sparingly if she’s single, but she won’t really be leaving with any men from it)
/r/askTRP26/07/20 01:00 PM
24

There’s no unicorns There are girls better than others Tinder is not the place to find them
/r/askTRP26/07/20 12:57 PM
2

I didn’t find her anywhere crazy lol. Just a college class. For me it’s the only girl I’ve ever tried to LTR or gotten anywhere near commitment. And I aimed for that kind of relationship and succeeded. So it’s hard for me to say how to replicate this because I never have. The best advice I do have because I did this and know this is part of why it worked: This must be established prior to her being your LTR. I must have first said that I’d only want a relationship like that 2 months into knowing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:54 PM
1

as just being a virgin doesn't mean I wanna be with a girl, I mean, I assumed as much. Whatever works for the individual man and makes him happy ultimately is what matters. This is wisdom, though I would contribute: short-term and long-term happiness can conflict. A "good" relationship with a high n-count girl has a high likelihood to lead to a bad ending. Which is partially why I do attribute a distaste towards men who choose to LTR said women, since they're a bit of a liability. I mean, it's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:07 AM
1

Agree with the sentiment, but: Virgin may be your standard, but I don't think it's a gold standard. My LTR has fucked 2 other guys, and I'd be hard-pressed to find a virgin with higher value. Plus, she's okay if I fuck other chicks, so I can keep growing my n-count. Not sure how many virgins would let that slide... I'll gladly take the "agony" of her having not been a virgin when we met in exchange for that. Fucking one chick gets boring, even if she's hot as hell. At the same time, yeah, 8 dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:01 AM
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Exactly. Because as much as women want to act like it's a problem that some men are like this, they're the ones that create this. In HS all I wanted was one girl to be my GF, we'd fuck only each other in our life, and be "true loves." That didn't go so well, but this certainly did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:58 AM
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Why wouldn't she be comfortable? That seems like an issue. No, why would you feel confident doing something you seldom do? That's not how confidence works. Also, maybe in your experience you feel like you caught on quickly or were with guys so inexperienced they couldn't tell... but I've had a handful of women I could tell were low n-count just by them being a bumbling mess in the bedroom. You can frame it as "predatory" as I can already tell you're alluding to with the above statement, but I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:39 AM
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Update: did some digging and see that you're into polyamory. You also claimed you don't cheat. Well, which is it? Also: that exactly proves my point. I'm not into polyamory. Someone with an n-count like that runs in direct contrast to what I would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:28 AM
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You have no way of assuredly knowing how many others she did that for. This is true, but there's ways to gauge it. For example, does she seem inexperienced, or does she know where everything is, how everything works, and is comfortable in the situation? A woman who sleeps with any particular person on the first date is a woman who will sleep with virtually anyone very easily Well, nearly every woman does this at least once. I wouldn't say nearly every woman sleeps with "virtually anyone very eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:21 AM
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Nah, most women do shit like that. It's a green flag if she's willing to do it with you and either no other or very few other men. If she wasn't willing to do it for you, it doesn't mean at all that she wasn't willing to do it with anybody else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:13 AM
2

Triggered? No. Absolutely repulsed? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:04 AM
1

Triple digit count...yet I have an eight year marriage And? No cheating from my end So? He's a tall and handsome veteran To you. He ain't no beta Alright, I wouldn't call a guy beta for getting with a woman who had fucked the "average" 8 dudes... but triple digits... you can't possibly still believe you can call yourself "monogamous" no matter how long you never fuck another guy, can you? You fucked enough dudes for 20 lifetimes. I wouldn't care if you promised to lock yourself in a basement to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 04:01 AM
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Well, it's popular now, among people who are not that age. Let's check back in with all these people in 40 years, and see if it's still "trendy."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:51 AM
2

Eh, it's true. My LTR has an n-count of 3. Want men to stop thinking like me? Get women to stop rewarding it... I get to have my cake, eat it too, and write "sexist" messages on that cake because women approve of it happening. Tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:49 AM
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They absolutely can. Double standards. Fuck yeah. Edit: My n-count itself is 25. Guess who has the luxury of choosing low n-count women because he has options? Hint: it's not low n-count men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:43 AM
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I don't care what year it is. That's not a valid argument. Standards changing =/= standards improving. Personally, I most likely wouldn't LTR a girl with an n-count of 8, if that's the so-called average. Perhaps with great reservation, and if she otherwise seemed "out of my league." And I'm not really in the camp of "aLl WoMeN aRe WhOrEs WhO FuCkEd 50 GuYs." But the amount that is "normal" today is just too high. 8 just means you either suck at vetting, have too low value to get men to stick aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:41 AM
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It’s unrealistic to have just one sex partner in a lifetime of a normal individual. In the modern day. Wasn't always the case. A carousel would be like 50 or above in the span of like two years That... is just an unpaid prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:34 AM
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4) her not being a naive idiot that sleeps with men quickly This post implies that she is "a naive idiot that sleeps with men quickly." Just that she didn't do it for this dude, a potential LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:32 AM
1

Does 8 not sound like a carousel to you? That's a lot more than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:30 AM
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Yeah, what that guy said didn't really negate the OP. I mean, what he said is true, but it's just not in direct response to the OP. No matter why she's not fucking the dude, if she isn't fucking the dude (to the extent she's fucking other dudes), the dude should probably not LTR her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:29 AM
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Meaning you'd have low interest to fuck her, or she'd have low interest to fuck you? If the former, that seems like a personal call. If the latter, that could be the case but also may not. Given that these are theoretical girls and I didn't say she was like that, I would just say that's kind of besides the point. But either way that's still an acknowledgement that girls' actions can impact their value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:26 AM
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Roughly 25, but I don't count. At least 20. Lost count around 12 or so Male, 23 in a couple months 1 LTR, current. 4 years. Probably 20 ONSs. First half of those ONSs remained ONSs over plates because all but my LTR dipped after bang 1. Second half remained ONSs because I got pickier about who to bang again (accounting for a few not being ONSs) but I gained a lot of ability to actually get them to come around a second time. I'm more of an introvert but I put on a show of being an extrovert when …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:14 AM
1

LMV? That's a new one. Sure you don't mean RMV? RMV basically = girl game. Women can get sex in abundance, so game centered around sex would make no sense. But game centered around obtaining relationships does make sense, as they're not guaranteed a relationship with any guy they fuck. While in SMV it's the other way around So, you're saying Girl A has a higher SMV than Girl B? I do not see how that would make sense. They're both theoretically exactly as attractive as each other. The only differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 03:05 AM
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he's racking up notches like that I wouldn't call it quite racking up notches, but he's 22 and has probably had 6 or so LTRs. BP is [listed BP traits]. RP is [listed RP traits] He acts exactly like the listed BP traits and nothing like the listed RP traits. You seem to be under the impression that RP is the specific tactics In short, I would define RP as: "Understanding that women pursue the highest value men, and striving to be that in accordance with the traits women select, not in words, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:59 AM
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Girl A is a 7/10 with an n-count of 150. She fucks every dude that crosses her path with decent SMV, she is a total bitch to be around, she is dirt poor yet demands a man pay for her every whim. Girl B is a 7/10 with an n-count of 0. She's incredibly pleasant, generous with her own money at least to the point where she pays for herself and sometimes affords her man a meal or whatnot, she could not be caught dead flirting with another man while in a committed relationship, continue on this list b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:43 AM
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I explicitly implied the opposite, that it makes them unattractive. There indeed is "girl game." It's called being a high quality partner. All women of the same appearance are not equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:25 AM
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I don't see what pumping and dumping had to do with that Because if women were such a prize to all men, they wouldn't be used and thrown aside. Some women are a prize to some men. Some men are a prize to some women. If a 9/10 male LTR'd a 1/10 female, you cannot believe that she's the prize there. Women have higher inherent value, but they don't have infinite value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:05 AM
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To clarify, I don't mean that he's dirt poor. He makes about 40k out of college, which is low for my school--but obviously not poor by society's standards. But she went to the same school and makes double what he does, so that's why I disregarded it. He offers stability and comfort in the form of emotions, not money. He also lets her stay at his apartment for free, though like I said, she makes more money. But women accept stability and comfort in emotions because some women--mostly low value on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:44 PM
3

Human evolution would go faster if males used hypergamy too but they keep saying they are too dumb to have sexual discretion. You don't get it. Women will act in favor of other women. Men are more self-serving. Me fucking a ton of girls only stands to benefit me and harm other men. The men who complain about men being shafted are not the men harming men. Men like me don't care. Because we have that privilege. On a societal level, I do think it'd be nice if the world gave a fuck about those men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:31 PM
1

I look like someone from Eastern Europe (think: Greece, Italy, Turkey, etc). I'm American though. The women who are most DTF me... look like they're from Eastern Europe. Think: same countries. They're also American though. Caveat: I find my LTR more attractive than most women who are 'Eastern European' looking--though I do quite like that look--and she's German & Polish with blonde hair and blue eyes. She's my ideal type, and she thinks my more Eastern European look is her ideal type. So, ime--y…
/r/askTRP25/07/20 11:25 PM
2

Well, FWIW, I went raw with chicks all of college because I trusted girls from my college to be too career driven and liberal to go through with a pregnancy. Which turned out to be true. They all pretty much used birth control or had an IUD; if they didn't, I knew I could trust them to get an abortion (though it never happened). After college? Now that I've started making money? Yeah, I'm only going raw with LTRs. Not even a FWB--too easy to try to baby trap me. Hear about that happening all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:21 PM
3

There's definitely guys that get women in spite of being BP. However, there are guys that get women because they're BP too. For example, I know a balding obese guy who has a sub-par job and doesn't really make much money. He's BP to the core as well, thinking women should be cherished and treated "respectably" at all times. He has zero sexual value to offer whatsoever because of all this. Still, his LTR is a skinny HB5 who treats him like shit. While that may sound bad, he at least has an LTR an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:12 PM
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I mean... if a guy pumps and dumps a girl who threw herself at him, who was the prize in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:05 PM
2

majority of couples meet today on OLD You are mistaken (I believe) I'm pretty sure the stat actually is: online dating is the most common way to meet, but it's not the majority. I think it's like 40% of relationships or something. The reason it's considered more common than meeting in person is because the different ways to meet in person are usually divided up into sub-categories in those studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 11:00 PM
12

A prize is only a prize to an individual without any prizes. A prize is not a prize to the man who has collected dozens of prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:56 PM
4

Why won't Chad say no to sex with me? Ugly women keep getting to pass on their genes because men will fuck anyone. Because an attractive man can just do both. He can fuck an 8/10 and have actual kids with her, and wrap it up and fuck 3 5/10 women that weekend too. What's he care? He gets his cake and gets to eat it too. > They obviously need to read FDS to get some self esteem No, they don't--because they're fucking attractive women too, and taking them more seriously at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:54 PM
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Idk, I’m RP because it works for me. But guys I see who are LVM—I couldn’t see it being too effective (without them improving, which they don’t seem willing to do). And those BP LVM do get LTRs... just bad ones. To get anything quality you’ll need to be RP, but some people are limited in options to “low quality or nothing” so for those people low quality very well could be better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:38 PM
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130+ IQ 8+ is a unicorn, they practically don't exist Yeah, I went to a school where this intelligence was the norm... Women were not very attractive. In fact, very unattractive compared to other schools like our in-state rival school. Despite having a big Greek Life system and 1:1 gender ratio, our best sorority looked like an average sorority at some Southern SEC schools. Remove the filter for intelligence that a school like mine had (creating a high probability any attractive woman was intell…
/r/askTRP25/07/20 09:39 PM
1

I went to a college that implied your IQ needed to be this high to get in, though nobody actually took this test because it's dated and doesn't matter for anything. So most of my bangs (probably 20/25) were in this group. It can go a few different ways depending on the girl. Some will use it to be extra good hamsterers. Some will develop a huge ego around it or delve deep into lefty politics because it's "for intelligent people" and "only stupid people are right wing." Some (read: many) will cer…
/r/askTRP25/07/20 09:35 PM
1

Because they’ve already shown they’re not very good at taking birth control or using protection with an uncommitted man, and that they won’t be getting an abortion either
/r/askTRP25/07/20 08:27 PM
1

I’ll tell ya what: they’re easier to impregnate for sure
/r/askTRP25/07/20 08:09 PM
8

Social circles, online dating while using the bathroom here and there, chat up someone while I’m out if I happen to interact and see an opportunity, bars & parties I may get approached or chat up a girl near me not expecting anything, when I was still in college I’d use class, etc
/r/askTRP25/07/20 07:01 PM
12

When I first started: got a date maybe 1 in 50 times (did a lot of cold approach) probably 1-in-10 for non cold approaches Now: maybe 3 in 4 or 4 in 5. I also stopped cold approaching tho and meet women through natural streams
/r/askTRP25/07/20 05:18 PM
1

Depends on the person 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 04:20 PM
2

Well you can... but that wouldn’t get you any closer to your goals
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 03:46 PM
3

“once the women opens the gates for sex, then it’s the man who gate keeps commitment” This is true. However, caveat: men gatekeep relationships without sex too. You can befriend a chick or even possibly GF-her without sex by acting BP. See it all the time in BP people I know. Are these good or desirable relationships? Hell no. But if you're low value and playing by women's rules, you still do choose who you're low value towards, and who gets the minimum value that you can offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 02:33 PM
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Eh, if you want a GF, pursue the traditional BP routes and/or find a girl in your social circle and you can get one. Play the woman's game and supplicate to her and you'll have a (bad) relationship. Women can do this too. They can play a man's game and put out for higher value men than themselves and get sex, like men can play BP for a lower value women and get a relationship. In the woman's case, she won't get treated great by that man either. You'd be playing the other gender's game, but you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 02:30 PM
35

You can compliment, but don’t do it before you’ve fucked, don’t do it often, and don’t do it where it’s not deserved.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 01:23 PM
6

I probably wouldn’t like this since I’m sure most of the hottest girls I’ve been with have been with higher SMV guys than me. Just an added insecurity I don’t really need
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 01:10 PM
1

I mean, it’s not exact. But if you saw my other comment, a full 70% of the 18-34 population is overweight nationally. Even if you can’t say “then 70% of OLD users are overweight” you can highly likely claim “at least a significant portion were highly probable to be overweight”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 01:07 PM
1

Max out retirement, then I’m just gonna look into safe index funds. I’d recommend some but my job starts in a month so I haven’t really looked into it yet In a couple years I’ll probably try to move from renting to property ownership
/r/askTRP25/07/20 12:48 PM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 12:46 PM
2

And they’re fat
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 12:46 PM
1

Well, no state income tax
/r/askTRP25/07/20 02:13 AM
2

Yeah, my LTR is 140 pounds, thin, and a gym rat with a huge ass at 5'9". And she weighs 140. Honestly the OP seemed flawed to me from the beginning because of that--any chick "bigger" than me would look kinda gross. Women just don't carry as much weight as men who aren't rail thin or extremely short (without being fat). Question can only apply to very small men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 01:30 AM
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My take is that you should be worrying about yourself more than you worry about other dudes. What is a good deal for you may be a bad deal for a higher value man. What is a bad deal for you may be a great deal for a lower value man. To expand upon that, if you've had sexual abundance and fucked, say, 10 girls. Would you care your LTR fucked 3 guys? You had a ONS with 9 other dude's future "wifey material" chick, and two guys had sex with yours. In my views, that's winning. Now, applied to my own…
/r/askTRP25/07/20 01:25 AM
1

I’d probably go Dallas. No taxes and plenty of women.
/r/askTRP25/07/20 12:32 AM
4

Well, I weigh 170. A woman would have a very difficult time weighing 170 and not being very fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 12:31 AM
1

Depends on the city and college town. Depends on the balance of financial effects vs dating effects. There's no "generally correct" answer based upon cities vs college towns inherently.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:54 PM
1

You can probably consistently date 10 or so years below your own age, so you can always fuck women younger than yourself. But if by "younger women" you mean "18-24," then some time around when you near or hit 40 you probably lose some of that raw primal ability to be a "hot stud" and fuck them. You can be a sugar daddy and fuck them until you're 70, but that's not the same as being able to walk into a bar and walk out with them 30 minutes later. Edit: For all the men here who will challenge this…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:48 PM
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What exactly am I bitching about? Didn't mean you but the sentiment is reiterated often. Pretending I said men are entitled to sex doesn't give you any sort of moral high ground it just makes you look insecure Well, luckily I never said that you said that. I don't know what exactly you're so worked up about here Why is it so common to pretend the other person is angry to try to win an argument? How often do you really think people are ready to throw shit at their computer screen? Lmfao. If you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 11:46 PM
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You don't need to adopt my approach, but here has been my logic: Any woman worth her salt nowadays will have a ONS. No, I'm not in the camp of "aLl WoMeN fUcK 50 DuDeS GuYs" but they will have an n-count above 1 if they're attractive and not raised on a farm in rural Wyoming (aka a girl I wouldn't get along with anyways). There's too much pressure, there's too many options, they're not strong-willed enough. Every girl HB7+ will have at least one casual sexual encounter in her lifetime. That bein…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:31 PM
2

You don't need to adopt my approach, but here has been my logic: Any woman worth her salt nowadays will have a ONS. No, I'm not in the camp of "aLl WoMeN fUcK 50 DuDeS GuYs" but they will have an n-count above 1 if they're attractive and not raised on a farm in rural Wyoming (aka a girl I wouldn't get along with anyways). There's too much pressure, there's too many options, they're not strong-willed enough. Every girl HB7+ will have at least one casual sexual encounter in her lifetime. That bein…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:30 PM
3

Yep, I hit an n-count around 25 at 22 and just lost most interest. Will still fuck a chick if a hot one appears in my life without too much hassle, but generally, I've just got new priorities that I like better. Gotta stack my cash, indulge my hobbies, and I've got a good LTR for all the sex and female company I'd want... the LTR bit is beside the fact, but it is nice to have women in your life. I think that's why plate spinning is so encouraged here--it's lower maintenance than constantly seeki…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:20 PM
4

I'm your exact height and have zero problems whatsoever. Get off the internet and stop taking women's bio's so seriously. No, you don't need to be 6' to get laid. That's ridiculous.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:17 PM
2

Save, save, and save. That's the answer. I'm in a similar boat, just graduated and making good money but not quite 6 figures. My plan is to put literally every dollar I can into savings because I want to get the fuck out of the rat race ASAP
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:16 PM
3

Because men are secretly hopeless romantics, and plate spinning is a reaction to the destruction of the structures that allowed those needs to be fulfilled. We play the game because it exists, but we didn't create the game nor do we prefer it
/r/askTRP24/07/20 11:13 PM
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Because if you're 5'7", 98% of women are below 5'9" Because if you're 5'5", roughly 75% of women are below 5'7" Because if you're 5'3", still half of women are below 5'5" And if you're shorter than 5'3", then guess what? You lost the genetic lottery. Women can lose the genetic lottery too. Quit bitching. The idea that all men are entitled to sex with attractive women is both ridiculous and laughable. Want value? Provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 11:07 PM
-3

Girls near or above your height just arent nearly as interested I think this is an artificial cap men put on themselves. IME, without even seeking it out, 4 out of 5 of the hottest girls I’ve hooked up with were +/- 2 inches of my own height. I’m 5’9”. Their heights: 5’7”, 5’8”, 5’8”, 5’10” (and 5’3”) But yes, a 5’9” girl doesn’t want to be with a 5’5” guy, generally. I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 10:15 PM
2

I should have used a benchmark of, say, $10 million — above that level, dudes are far more envious of other guys who have $15 million Yeah, high society can be fucked up like that. To be honest, I wouldn't quite know about that myself as I've vastly more experience with the UMC types of people than the straight-up trust fund babies. The trust funders I have met have insufficient competition, among the UMC people I normally see them interact, to need to feel insecure, as they obviously have money…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 09:25 PM
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If a woman is as strong as you, as a man, it says a lot more about you than it does her. My LTR is pretty much the same height as me and maybe only 30 pounds less. I'm not even in great shape right now and I can probably bench press 4x as much weight for 4x as many reps. (She doesn't bench, but we've done it as an experiment). Women are vastly, vastly weaker. A woman would have to be injecting roids to be as strong as me. Hit the gym lads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 09:15 PM
1

Haha the only reason I even slightly care is because I know that one day she’ll get older. Me too. If I’m still with her then, it’d be nice to look back at the old pictures and reminisce how hot she once was. As of now, I don’t really have more than 2 or 3 photos that feel like I could do that. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 01:46 PM
1

Yep
/r/askTRP24/07/20 01:41 PM
1

Nope, never cheated
/r/askTRP24/07/20 06:24 AM
0

A critique: I think there's many more lifestyles to choose from. At first, I thought the Sigma sounded a bit like I believe I act myself--but there's certainly choices that go beyond that. For example, a "Career-driven Bachelor." Lives within society's norms, as opposed to the sigma, as he builds his white collar or business-owning career to a high point. He does not commit to women like The Husband, but he has sex with many plates or FWBs throughout his life, and never settles down. There's som…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/20 05:25 AM
1

Could be. In our case I’m really wide (good on its own) and she’s not narrow (not bad on its own, esp irl). So we just look like a square. She’s also more of a good-looking face than body, but when she has no idea what face to make in a pic, it’s not going to look as good. But I feel you. If she was narrower with better ‘assets’ we’d probably still photograph fine. It is interesting how different it is to the real world, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 04:49 AM
1

That's fair. He never said. Whenever I hear this, I just imagine a 5'4" or so guy. Which at that height, it's admittedly tougher than it could be, but doable. But if you start getting into seriously short heights (say, 5') then yeah, I'd get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 04:23 AM
2

A. Yeah, TRP kinda misses that one a bit in their strategy--men have a window too. Most attractive, quality LTR material women find their long-term partner by 25. The rest are the ones who spent that time playing the field. B. Interesting. You could have also aged poorly, or just simply missed your chance to settle down with a more LTR-able girl by playing the field at those ages. Not sure what your exact experience was. By 40 though you've aged out of most attractive single women, so it's no su…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 04:07 AM
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There's no magic answer. Whenever you feel like you've developed the vetting skills. For a personal anecdote, I LTR'd the first girl I fucked (long after she was the first girl I fucked) and am still with her 4 years later. I wasn't comfortable with my vetting skills so I arranged a one-way open relationship and fucked 24 more (roughly, I don't count. At least 20). Vetted a bunch of women, saw what was out there, realized I had it right all along. Irony is I had a weird hang up about the first g…
/r/askTRP24/07/20 03:51 AM
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A. I don't know how old you are, but I am 22. Most of the women I know are below 20. That is pretty big slut status. Those girls stand out. On the flip side, I've been with 25 girls or so. Of the ones I've been with, maybe half were that high or higher. But that's a biased sample--it's girls who fucked me. Girls who fuck a lot of dudes are more likely to fuck me too. Of girls I'm just friends with, 20+ is unusual. B. It depends what kind of short guy you are. My grandfather was a pussy slayer in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:39 AM
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A. More attractive women have lower n-counts. This is the most incel opinion to have. Women’s n-counts are also grossly exaggerated by men who have little sex. Average women tops out around 10-12, with plenty below average. B. Alright, so you’re one of those “I’m short therefore doomed” guys. Got it. I know plenty of short guys who do fine, even pretty well... I’m not tall at all myself. C. Women are no more shallow than men. 95% of women’s sexual value to men is their looks. I don’t care that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:13 AM
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Username checks out. In any case that's a stupid point. A fish isn't supposed to tell you how to catch it so you can slaughter it. If you want to hook up, or if you want to catch a fish to eat, you ask other men, or a fisherman. Women want you to date them, not smash and pass them. And they do provide information on how to do that, albeit you shouldn't take them up on the info they offer--since it serves them, rather than you. Think about what men tell women they'd like from women. It's all info…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:41 AM
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Yeah, we're especially not photogenic as a pair because I'm 5'10" and she's 5'9". Nobody would ever really call me short at 5'10", and nobody would say she's too tall or big to be attractive (especially because she's really thin) but side-by-side there's not that masculine-feminine polarity that looks really nice in photos when the guy has 5+ inches on the girl. In real life? That shit is irrelevant. If anything, I feel like the man for not giving a fuck my girl is nearly as tall as me, when I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:34 AM
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Yeah, this here. I see men complain about make-up on here all the time. I don't get it. I grew up with a mom in the beauty industry myself, who showed me from a young age all the ways to take care of myself. Because of that, I tell my LTR to wear make-up around me because it looks better, and she's a naturally good-looking girl in her own right. I don't want plain Jane no make-up McGee. Yuck. I also encouraged her to bleach her hair--GASP--because that looks better too. Goddamn, don't criticize …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:27 AM
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they will when it comes to hitting the clubs and online profiles Well, if it's for a ONS, I'd rather a girl looked better in the moment even if it's fake. If it's for an LTR, those aren't ideal places to find them anyways. If you meet a girl by chatting her up on the street during the day, chances are she'll normally look like that. And even if make-up is "fake," if she always look like that, what is the difference? That'd be like women getting mad at men for using steroids because his muscles w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:17 AM
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and online through social media than they do in day to day life While I think the make-up thing is overhyped, yes social media is terrible for that. Blemishes edited out, practicing perfect poses, perfecting lighting, wearing make-up they don't normally... it adds up. An anecdote you may find interesting: my LTR is the rare type who never really had social media, and never really learned to take "sexy" photos of herself. In real life she's more attractive than a vast majority of women (95%+), co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:13 AM
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The most attractive women need to wear make-up because you can't look as good as them without it. This warps the standard. If that standard didn't exist, the most attractive women would simply be the most attractive women without make-up. You wouldn't know any better. Many men think that women increasing in absolute value raises their SMV. That makes no sense. If all women have access to make-up, their relative value remains unchanged. Everyone is always being judged on relative value, not absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:03 AM
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It will probably attract blue collar women. People tend to pair off with those in similar classes as themselves.
/r/askTRP24/07/20 01:35 AM
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Interesting. I’ll need to keep looking into it. I could see myself doing that down the line. Neither myself nor my LTR are particularly fond of the idea of a legal marriage, for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 12:35 AM
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So with a private marriage, you’re required to establish all these things separately from the marriage contract? Or would you be required to establish them separately, regardless of its legality? And I saw that you file taxes separately... so things like family health plans, taxes, etc—not available if you go the private route?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 11:03 PM
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Firstly people in cities have more sex, which would stand to reason they’d be rated more attractive too. This data doesn’t say “this is the rating of city people” it’s just people. Secondly let’s say you cut it in half. Well I googled and roughly 70% of people are overweight or obese aged 18-34 (so yes, young people). So let’s say that in a city that’s only 35% of people. Pretty damn generous if you ask me, but just go with it. Alright so now the top 20% is the top 20% of the 65% who aren’t fat.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 10:34 PM
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As someone who’s thought about the possibilities of going down this road later in my current relationship, would you be able to explain private marriage a bit to me? Mostly: how do you obtain one, and what does it legally afford you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 10:16 PM
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Well, a man’s n-count doesn’t effect his ability to be a good partner. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 10:14 PM
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Well, thing is, 20% is pretty average. Remove the 40% of obese Americans. You’ve got 60% of men left. 20%? That’s hardly above average for the 60% of non-obese people. Factor in the overweight non-obese population and... I have no problem with 20% being average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 10:02 PM
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I saw that. It roughly checks out. If you converted the #s that’d mean a top 5% guy was roughly a 7. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 09:43 PM
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You could be rating yourself wrong You could be rating women differently To me a top 20% woman is a 6. A HB7 for me is top 10% and wouldn’t date downwards to date a man on the brink of the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 09:41 PM
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And lot of these guys who are alpha but not in the best shape could take your girl from you. (Not necessarily you, but in shape guys in general). Keep some perspective. My best friend a few months ago had a FWB who was maybe a HB4 or HB5. He’s ripped out of his mind. I am not (but not a dad bod, either). My LTR however is a HB8 and we all hung out a couple times (pre-selection). After she met my LTR: she’d eye fuck me, touch me a lot, when she was particularly drunk she even said she found me se…
/r/askTRP23/07/20 09:02 PM
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I would say, yes, I’ve always thought the 80-20 rule is too lenient. A top 15-20% guy has a solid income, looks decent... can probably get a GF. Probably has quite a few options for that even. But is he hooking up at will? Maybe in college. The true “pussy slayers” I know who go beyond n-counts simply “higher than average”—those guys are pretty rare. Top 5% or better. The men that have women lusting—they’re far better than top 20%. The men that get those HB8 and HB9 girls... not top 20%. Top 20%…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:34 PM
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I don’t know what to tell you other than that learning how the opposite gender works doesn’t need to be a negative thing. I’ve had a lot of fun doing it and a lot of fun benefitting from it. Women are cool. They’re just different from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 08:27 PM
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to think you can’t improve at the age of 28 is insane You can, but how many people do? The theory is different from the reality. How many people who, as have this age, have not set the groundwork for a future high income at the very least, have not learned to be smooth with women, have not lifted--how many people truly change that after this age? You certainly can, but how many do? I haven't been with too many 8 or 9s but I literally pulled one off the street within the past month Then this goal…
/r/askTRP23/07/20 06:03 PM
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Pretty much exactly this yes. Np
/r/askTRP23/07/20 05:40 PM
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That can come in many forms. I'm not going to do anything super illegal (some laws are stupid and nobody really enforces them anyways) and I generally live an exciting life with some risk. "Bad boys" are largely a myth--by all accounts you'd struggle to call me that, but it's not like this chases women away. I do live my life on my own terms, however.
/r/askTRP23/07/20 05:22 PM
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There's no right answer for you. I'm in an LTR pretty comparable to this albeit with my own caveats rather than yours (don't care about cleaning or cooking from her routinely, but I get other benefits... and she does those things here and there too). Look in the mirror. Are you worth that? If you are, then this is perfectly reasonable. If you want to LTR a HB8 or HB9, have you ever had sex with one? If you have not, then yes, you will struggle to get this, especially because you're 28 and have h…
/r/askTRP23/07/20 04:21 PM
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You are not your job. Working in tech you probably make money. Have an interesting life outside of your work. Also, don't try to be a "Bad Boy." That isn't synonymous with "Alpha." Low quality chicks want drug users, baby-daddies-for-multiple-women, etc. High quality chicks want dudes making money, in-shape, who still are smooth with women and can attract many. High quality chicks tend to look better too.
/r/askTRP23/07/20 04:15 PM
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Because I don't want that, and I have zero reason to take less than I want
/r/askTRP23/07/20 04:13 PM
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Upvoted. OP isn't really getting it in her head. She just keeps reiterating "BUT, you're forgetting that they slept with me. That means they liked me." Literally the same as BP nice guys who struggle with women saying: "BUT, she let me help her move her bed into her new apartment. That means she really trusts me and values my friendship. She even told me about the time she fucked Chad and he left her, and that really hurt her deep. See! She does really like me."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 12:01 AM
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Don’t have sex with a guy who hasnt already taken you out in public Being completely honest this is a great vetting tip for women. I refuse to be seen in public with all but the most attractive girls I fuck. The ones I'd actually consider LTRing. I just don't want people associating them with me, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:57 PM
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My friends bashed me for having an LTR and pursuing side girls (she was ok with it) and I still did that. Men don't give a fuck what their friends say if they're truly into a girl. While, yes, it feels nice to be revered for the women you get--it's not at all accurate to think that men only prefer hot women for image reasons. I mean, if it wasn't preferred, why would it even impact your image? You'd just be doing something nobody cared about doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:54 PM
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Men will put up with a lot if the girl is out of league and, a hot woman makes them a star in their peer group This part is true. But men also like hot women for its own sake. I mean, it's just a visceral reaction. Getting a HB5 naked and fooling around versus getting a HB8 chick naked and fooling around with her... it's night and day. All of my best and most fulfilling sex in my life has been with the hottest chicks I've gotten. I'm more into it. Vastly more into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:52 PM
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This is... not true at all. I enjoy sex and spending time with hot women immeasurably more than I do with lesser attractive women. Seeing my LTR naked, even after knowing her 4 years--it's a huge turn-on. Seeing some random average chick naked... my thoughts: "alright, here we go again."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:50 PM
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And guys who can hardly get sex usually do commit to any ol' girl. Seen it countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:45 PM
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Men can only commit to one woman. So why would he commit to any ol' girl who put out for him? It's about doing the best you can for yourself. Girls sleeping with that guy are attempting to do just that. Men not committing to them--also doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:25 PM
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Do you not think there are men that can get more than one hot girl? And what factors would that guy decide between?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:14 PM
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Interesting question. Firstly, and obviously, male and female SMV/RMV are different. Secondly, money is difficult to place as either RMV or SMV because it can be either depending how you use it. Buy lots of cool shit and increase your status? SMV. Have the money because you have a high status job? SMV & RMV. Have money despite being weak-willed and willing to spend it all on your chick? RMV (and BB). So, money is not inherently RMV or SMV--but can be used for either end. At least that's my take.…
/r/askTRP22/07/20 03:22 PM
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I mean, I know that you wouldn't literally do THAT. But women do hit men all the time just because men said things they didn't like. And it's just the dumbest thing I've seen. Like, yeah, 90% of the time he won't hit back because men are taught not to hit women for any reason. What about the 10% when he can't control himself and does? Well, you just got yourself into a fight with someone you cannot win against. Single-digit IQ move. It's just not funny. Because women do it all the time. It'd be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:18 PM
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I mean, you do you. But that's not a good way to go about the world. People who do things like that face the repercussions eventually. You're not as safe in the world as you seemingly think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:04 PM
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Relationship Market Value. That's what you use to determine if you want to LTR a chick, or I suppose, perhaps even keep her as a FWB or whatever. It encompasses the more long-term traits like low n-count, if she respects you, etc. SMV is just "sexual market value." Or, how appealing she would be to fuck. It pretty much starts and ends with "is she hot?"
/r/askTRP22/07/20 03:03 PM
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their ability to bond is ruined just the same. Depends what you mean, and I think it's debatable. High n-count men are probably more likely to cheat physically, just like high n-count women. However, men can cheat and retain the same feelings for their "primary" woman as if they did not cheat. Men typically ask: "did you cheat?" Women typically ask: "do you love her?" A low and high n-count man are equally likely to respond "no" and "yes" to the "do you you love her?" question. A lower n-count m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:00 PM
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I'd pour hot coffee on the guy's nuts for that one. Your reaction to words is intense physical violence? Come on. If you did that to a guy, he has every right to hit you back. And you don't want that. Don't initiate violence with someone much stronger than you for such a frivolous reason and expect no retaliation because "I AM FEMALE!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:51 PM
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sluts and how subhuman they are Never said that. People can do what they want and I'm acquainted and friends with many high n-count women. But I still would not date them. And I do think the topic of morals regarding the two sides of it are quite different. A man with a high n-count is just being a man. Men like to fuck. 90% of men would have a high n-count if they could, and the other 10% are religious. All women have the choice to be high n-count (make a Tinder) and yet many choose not to be. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:49 PM
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Looks > n-count, but n-count is still a big factor Men who feel like they can get looks without the n-count will go for it. Your guy doesn't feel that way A small minority of men don't care, but this minority opinion is not to be mistaken for a majority Anything less serious than multiple years together making legitimate investments into each other--n-count does not matter. Honestly, it doesn't matter in pretty much any relationship except if you plan to raise a family with her--because it leads…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:44 PM
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Oh, I do not. I was just anticipating that response because I get it often. Truthfully I don’t believe in hypocrisy of sexual preferences because it makes no sense to me. Doesn’t mean other ppl don’t. I mean, a white guy can like black girls. A short guy can like tall girls. A dominant guy can like submissive girls. Etc. But for some reason liking n-counts different than your own strikes a chord for people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:20 PM
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All these answers going far beyond looks are wrong. That’s getting into RMV territory. A woman’s SMV is 90% her looks. Being pleasant enough to want to be around her and fuck her is the other 10%
/r/askTRP22/07/20 01:16 PM
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Echo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:06 PM
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Not complaining. Just saying. It feels disingenuous to say that you prefer a low n-count when I just don’t think that women weigh n-count nearly highly enough to outweigh other traits. I would say women choose partners largely independent of n-count, and the better options tend to have higher counts. Because they got chosen more. It’s the same for men, yes, but I think men actually discriminate based on that view. Women—much less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:59 PM
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Thank you attorney. The men who settle with high-n women are limited to: the small minority of men with options who don’t care the men without enough options to care Women conflate “I would not date a girl with this quality” for “I hate women with this quality.” Clearly I don’t hate them or I wouldn’t spend time fucking them, hanging out, etc. Doesn’t mean I want to put a ring on them. It’s same thing with say a fat girl. Do I hate them? No. Could we be friends? If she’s genuinely cool, why not?…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:54 PM
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Bragged? No. Stated? More or less. No issues is kind of misleading—I struggled until about 19. But last 4 years I turned that around. My attorney is correct. I am a hypocrite and I do not care. I’m friends with high n girls, I like them, I don’t care that’s how they live I would not date them. I’ve seen first-hand what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:50 PM
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Yeah, that shit was kind of a book. I type pretty fast. If you want the tl;dr, I do it because I want to, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't. So why not cut to the chase and just do it? I don't feel like it harms anything. And she doesn't do it because she doesn't want to, but in addition to that, I would not be okay with it. She'd rejected it before I ever had the opportunity to either allow it for her or deny it for her--but I would have denied it. However, had I needed to deny it, the relati…
/r/askTRP22/07/20 05:33 AM
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I do it because I think this: if I want to fuck a chick, I want to fuck her. Who I sleep next to, who I go on day-trips with, who I fuck 95% of the time, has no baring on if I find a chick sexy or want to put my dick in her. So I don't let it, because why restrict myself? Especially when I'm young. And it doesn't make me like her any less. She doesn't do it because she doesn't want to do it. She is enamored with me. She enjoys making me happy. She doesn't want another dick. Why would she? She ha…
/r/askTRP22/07/20 05:31 AM
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I think a lot of guys in their early redpilled phase are like kids in a candy store, so they go out and pull and bang as many girls as possible. But early experience taught me that wasn't a good idea, especially after I got dogged by one with alleged mental issues. So you sort of slow down and get a bit more selective. My experience exactly. Been following TRP for 6 years. My n-count by year: 0 0 3 6 15 2 (Estimates because I don't write it down or anything, but basically that). Struggled to get…
/r/askTRP22/07/20 05:07 AM
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Yep. To be fair I haven't in a little while because I was focusing on other shit for a while and then this corona bullshit happened. But over the course of 3 years together I've fucked maybe 20 other girls while with her. And she knows yeah. It's not even a big deal to us anymore.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 05:02 AM
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Yeah... So I'm with an LTR who's chill with me fucking other girls. We met in college. This one girl she made friends with at orientation. Freshman year she ended up taking a class with me by coincidence, and a year later I found out my LTR knew the girl too because she waited our table at a bar and we both chatted with her for a second, discovering we both knew her. A year later she ended up in a random class of mine again, surely not remembering our interaction that one time at a bar (at that …
/r/askTRP22/07/20 04:48 AM
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"Allowing" sounds like she owns me. I'm not "allowed" to do anything--she's not my mom or my owner. And "has to remain exclusive"--she doesn't have to do anything. I would just not be in an LTR with her then. And that is known, yes. But the sentiment is true, yeah.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 03:38 AM
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That's very true. Women do tend to worry a lot. If a woman does not worry about you, there's probably a problem. As the saying goes: "the worst thing a woman can feel about you isn't hatred. It's nothing." Think that was a PUA saying back in the day. But it's very true--if a woman feels like a man is valuable enough to be something to lose, that will cause strong emotions. If he is not valuable to her, she can feel "safe." And while women value safety and the like, it's just not the same as raw …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:35 AM
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I certainly did not say that.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 03:31 AM
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People really do infer your value from who you date. I'm a good looking guy, but I'm not damn-he's-gorgeous good-looking. I'm your regular ol' 7, the appearance at which men can thrive or die. I'm 5'10" and usually in decent shape, but never in phenomenal shape. My LTR for the last 4 years, however, is a top 2%er in appearance. Beautiful girl. This has manifested in: Half the dudes in my fraternity wanted advice on women from me When my co-workers at my internship met her last summer, I ascended…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:24 AM
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Been in an LTR for 4 years. Have side girls openly. HB8. Very pleasant girl. Not a unicorn.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 03:04 AM
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No. On this sub, where I have seen the term used as an insult, if anything, people are more familiar with TRP than incels. The difference is that one implies celibacy while one does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:03 AM
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I think so, in that particular grouping of words. The sentiment is definitely part of TRP, and I think it's a good distillation. Interesting. Well, great contribution. I really don't know what to say to younger dudes Even as a younger dude myself, same here. Even outside the subs themselves, my best friend has found RP content independently (he's never openly acknowledged it but I can tell, and he uses Reddit) and I just struggle with what to tell him. Passing through to the other side is tough …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:00 AM
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Yeah, I have a funny relationship with my friend like that. My LTR is a HB8. He's said countless times he wants to date a girl like her attractiveness wise, and how happy he would be to do so, and how "from now on, I am going to have standards for myself. 7s and up only." Countless times. Every time he starts saying shit like this I'll just say to him, "That's dope. Katie (not her name) has X Y Z friends who are single--I'll invite you both to a party" or something. And every single time it's ei…
/r/askTRP22/07/20 02:56 AM
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They do, but hot girls all think they should be fucking millionaires Honestly the hottest girls are the ones in college, who are mostly fucking broke college dudes. Second hottest girls (who are also legal) are the ones who just finished college, mostly fucking guys early enough in their careers that they may be well-off but certainly not millionaires.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 02:49 AM
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Agree here. I fluctuate in how dedicated to the gym I am... I'm usually decently in shape, but nobody would ever call me jacked or honestly I've never even had a 6 pack. I'm also only 5'10". I still pull pretty attractive girls. Got lots of friends in better shape who pull worse. Being fun, having a nice face, interesting, and decent game to move chicks from Point A to Point B while maintaining a fun vibe is more important.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 02:47 AM
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If you wanna be happy, never make a pretty women your wife There's plenty of attractive girls who make just as good, if not better, LTRs than lesser attractive women. I don't agree with that adage. I'd rather find a girl who can do it all.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 02:43 AM
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she's not a male to need gym I like my LTR's ass looking nice. So yes the gym is a good step for women too.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 02:42 AM
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Personally I would say nothing and chuckle. If she pressed me on why I did that, I might say "if you think that, do something about it." Or maybe if she's actually fit and doesn't need to lose any weight: "No, you aren't." No simping compliment, but just a statement of my own opinion. Though I make sure any girl I'm seriously dating knows that putting on weight is not an option, so I don't need to do anything more than let her know if her weight is acceptable to me or not, and it'll be acted upo…
/r/askTRP22/07/20 02:39 AM
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Spinning plates is a rational response to open hypergamy. You wrote that originally? Feel like I've seen that reiterated around TRP a lot. Very true stuff. Though in that way, I do think I lean a little more purple than some. I do think my LTR is a pretty good relationship and high quality chick so I forego some of that time I could spend spinning plates to be part of that. I could have probably doubled my n-count by now, if I wasn't with her. But short of finding a high quality LTR--it's far, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:30 AM
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Perhaps they've seen so much bad behavior among the women who they've been with in the past that they don't trust high-N women enough to settle down with one. You answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:21 AM
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My partner doesn't care about my number count hell we even give each other free passes I mean it's not exactly news if he's okay with you fucking dudes now that he wouldn't care if you fucked dudes in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:19 AM
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Notice how you got no response lmao. I'd love for her to test this out and report back how it went.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:16 AM
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people don’t use incel as an insult because they’re virgins, they use it as an insult because incels are notoriously misogynistic and hateful If that was the case, wouldn't "Red Piller" be considered an equivalent insult? People think TRP is equally misogynistic and hateful. And yet, being called a TRPer is sparingly used as an insult, but not nearly as much as incel is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:10 AM
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I don't give a shit about being compared at all. Never in 1,000,000 years in my entire life has that thought ever crossed my mind. It's a gut-level reaction paired with the logic that "women who show that they like to fuck men without a relationship are more likely to fuck men without a relationship while in a relationship." It's simple common sense. Add in the fact that I have the value to screen for whatever the hell I want in women, and I have zero incentive to pursue women like that for an L…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:07 AM
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Probably low self-confidence. One of my good friends is like this. He constantly makes comments about attractive women as if they're "too good to date him" despite being the most jacked dude I've seen in our university gym and having good male-to-male social skills. Thing is, BP runs deep. Having a surface level of value does not mean you automatically understand how the mating game works and how to conquer it--it just means you have more potential, if you did learn to do so. At the end of the d…
/r/askTRP22/07/20 02:01 AM
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I've often said that if you're not sexually successful, you have no place in PPD. I'd agree with this on both sides, blue and red. If we're actually trying to come to any new information here, people who have proven to do well with the knowledge they have are of far more use than people who are keyboard warriors and theory junkies. On the red side, people who "know TRP" but have yet to implement it--lot of them are very bitter. Not representative of what it means to be RP. Not Tinder, bro. Seeki…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 01:56 AM
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'Salty Gen-X'r looking to drink Coronas and play Pandemic with cuties"...got all sorts of attention. Ah I remember seeing that Tinder bio, either here or over on the RP subs. Good stuff. My biggest problem is getting past the idea of fucking women who are actively fucking other guys Just depends on your frame of mind. For me, I can compartmentalize pretty well. If I had a girl in mind for an LTR, or it was my LTR, this would disgust me. But if I decide for myself, "this girl has no true future w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:55 AM
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It's non-monogamy or volcel for me You can certainly be non-monogamous and in an LTR too. Tough to find, but out there. Lot of the types open to it too will want to have it extend both ways, which to me, is just a terrible deal. I feel not wanting an LTR though, especially if you're getting up there in age. If you're getting girls 20 years younger than you though, you seem like you're doing well on your own. Whatever you decide you want, I'm sure you'll find it. When I'm your age, I won't want w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:34 PM
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yeah that's not normal Cool. It's also not normal for men these days to have any amount of balls either, other than the ones stored in their wife's purse. She lied to you about her n-count Maybe. Don't care. As far as I can see, what she's said has checked out. She had no clue how to have sex when we met. And at the time I was inexperienced myself, and she couldn't even tell. You're getting played I'm sure. Getting played is pretty fun then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:29 PM
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Not all of them know TRP exists, what TRP believes and how to identify such awful minded types. Or maybe you're just overblowing its harmfulness. Because I doubt if it was truly such a walking red flag no girl would ever be able to identify it aside from you. This is just such a special snowflake argument. If 25+ people do not identify a set of behaviors as toxic, chances are it's not toxic. The odds that one person who happened to be outside of that group would have knowledge none of the others…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:24 PM
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Oh, yeah, for sure--never a smart idea to pick a fight in the hood. Because they're ready to fight. And that's why I don't go in the hood. If people get aggressive with me, I get aggressive back. If that's with some middle or upper class white kid, I can be sure it will only ever be a fist-fight, and one that ends once one of us is knocked down. These kids with nothing to lose? Yeah, they'll take the fight places that you don't want to go.
/r/askTRP21/07/20 10:22 PM
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Eh, agree to disagree. I could see what you're saying bearing out as true in some circumstances, but that's not been my experience. I've dealt with people in both those brackets (poorer making 40k or whatever, and richer making 200k or so) as well as average-looking people and attractive people. I feel a lot less envy coming from people who have things than those who don't. I mean even personally I consider my LTR a HB8 and not a HB9. She's got one of those faces that could model, and she's thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:21 PM
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And by way up, I mean much younger. Takes marriage off the table. This depends on age. I'm 22, so nobody is expecting a marriage proposal yet. If I were, say, 28, then yeah, I'd want to fuck chicks who were 20-23 too. Not even just because of the marriage thing--also because they're hotter. If you're looking for an LTR, date like 1 rung down I have a hard time analyzing this comment because I'm in an LTR where she's really good overall and I can also have side girls and tbh I feel like I'm datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:08 PM
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I mean, n-count IS important--but it's not the only thing. I wouldn't date a girl just because she's a virgin. My LTR is really hot, fine with me having a side bitch here and there, great to have around, and comes from money. N-count is 3. No way I'm leaving her even for a virgin lol. The trade-off value is definitely there. That said, not like I'd go for the same girl if her n-count was 15. At that point it's more of a real liability than a mere 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 10:01 PM
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Lmao good on you keeping a level head. I probably wouldve got myself stabbed 😂
/r/askTRP21/07/20 05:27 PM
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Yeah, it can get pretty laughable when they use that tactic online. In real life they have more of a sense of who you actually are and therefore group you a little better. Online I’ve been called things in arguments as “points” that have just absolutely zero basis in reality lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:59 PM
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“Nah you’re just a psychopath” Mature response. “I can identify TRP men and dump them” So then why hasn’t a single girl I’ve ever met been able to, or done, exactly that? Are you better than all of them? Am I making a mistake by not asking you out right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:24 PM
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Thank you. Exactly what I was getting at by pointing this out with a line of questioning. The amount of times I've been told by the feminists here things like... you must be a shitty person because you're RP. Your LTR must be low self-esteem / insecure / cheating on you / uglier than you say / etc. TRP men hate women. Etc, etc. Just because I happen to have a particular worldview of how the Sexual Marketplace functions, rather than theirs--that makes me all of these things, and any woman who wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:55 PM
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There's no such thing as the 'nature of women' or the 'nature of men', you've been brainwashed by your woman hating, male supremacist, circlejerk group. You cannot sum up the behaviour of billions into basic black and white categories unless you are insane or ignorant or both. So there's no differences between men and women? I'm sure. Why on earth would a woman want to be with someone who proudly professes how he has figured out women Well, if he'd truly figured out women, the first thing he sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:48 PM
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You really are starting to sound like a psychopath now, justifying ill treatment of people Who said manipulation is ill treatment? Benevolent manipulation is a good thing. Ever heard of old people who can't sustain themselves any longer being convinced to move into a retirement or nursing home? That would be manipulation, and it's also to their benefit. No, it's normal people who aren't socially retarded privilege No, you just haven't seen behind the curtain. That guy who makes that smooth appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:43 PM
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Lying and manipulating IS abuse Today, everything is abuse. WHY NOT JUST SAY THAT It's not men's job to do women's job for them. If you don't want to get used for sex, don't have NSA sex. Disclosing everything you think about a woman will only hurt your chances. Why would somebody pursue a course of action that has no incentive for them? The only incentive is to make people like you feel better, which should not be a man's priority. His priority is himself. Men who have more options will obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:36 PM
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Exactly. So it's easy for TRP to get a bad rep irl. Because every dude you "know" is RP is not RP... or you would not know. That, and I love the tendency for women to just find the biggest piece of shit dudes they can and say, "This dude beat his wife, smashed her window with a baseball bat, fucked 10 hookers in the backseat afterwards, then injected heroin. Must be a Red Piller."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:13 PM
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Lmao
/r/askTRP21/07/20 03:08 PM
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If I don't have women figured out, I could have been entirely fooled by my n-count and the quality and duration of my LTR. It must be fucking amazing to actually figure them out, god damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:07 PM
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If you don't think everything in life is a game, you're already losing. The ability to think love and feelings are real things is a female privilege. Abuse and manipulation Abuse is a meaningless buzzword these days, and manipulation is present in all forms of social interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:06 PM
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And yet, men cheat more than women And women initiate 80% of break-ups, usually by way of leaving for another guy. Whose cheating means more? We should 'have the power' because evil women and their evil nature The nature of woman is not evil, but if you feel that way, sounds like insecurity. However, they're still attracted to powerful men. See: Amy Schumer is not considered attractive by literally anybody. Sam Cassell is. TRP literally advocates gaslighting, cold shouldering, suddenly withdrawi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:05 PM
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This is far from abuse. It basically equates to "don't be needy and dry the woman up." If you don't do these things, women disappear. If the fact that it's "misleading" in the context of when a man does not want an LTR but the woman does, well that isn't his problem. You're not entitled to date anyone that sticks their dick in you. The thing is, attractive men with options do precisely what you copied and pasted from the sidebar naturally. What you're really opposing is people imitating that unn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 03:01 PM
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No RP men talk like that in real life. Except autistic ones. So you don't want an autistic guy. Seems fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:54 PM
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they can easily spot such men in real life and avoid them accordingly. This part I agree with and find funny. I know 3 dudes irl who consume RP content, myself included. The only one you'd ever expect to be RP because he wears it as a sleeve of honor is a 5'4" extremely beta ugly Asian dude. It's no wonder they think lowly of "RP men."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:53 PM
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I know. That was literally the point.
/r/askTRP21/07/20 02:51 PM
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Darn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:10 PM
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Yeah, I was pretty much leading it there with questions. The biggest reason to oppose men who have knowledge of women is because it takes the power out of women's hands. Many women hate the idea of power in men's hands, which leads to them employing any tactic possible to maintain what they have. Such as, here, gaslighting (which was ironically a projection onto TRP men in an earlier comment): women will attempt to shame and call men and women alike insecure and the like for establishing relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:09 PM
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Yeah, I mean, the dudes who hit on you don't matter too much. Tbh I've hit on plenty of women who had no chance in hell to actually date me. Others who I would have dated if things "went pretty well." Others I'd feel very happy to date (but things still need to go well). I guess I've only been in one LTR (still in it) and she was in that last category so the last category is likely what you want. Ultimately that just comes down to having good social perceptiveness to be able to screen which cate…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:02 PM
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more attractive people (men and women) will have higher n-counts due to opportunity, and more attractive people will cheat more as well due to opportunity. I've seen the opposite. More attractive women will have less partners because they have a higher ability to obtain an LTR, and women who can obtain LTRs enter them at a higher frequency than women who cannot. While in an LTR, even if a woman partakes in multiple, her n-count grows much slower than a woman who is perpetually single. Similarly,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:56 PM
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staying with a man who thinks he has 'female nature' figured out So you would rather be with a man who did not figure out how females work?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:49 PM
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By seeing who will date you. LOL Bit of a catch-22 for women I suppose. Thing is, it should become evident over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:47 PM
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When women are spoiled their gfs get jealous. When men have a trophy on their arms the boys pump him up. But without mutual attraction on some level or compatibility or chemistry the relationship will fail. Absolutely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:45 PM
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Someone on PPD was talking about the relationships he saw come and go in his apartment complex. What he observed was the best relationships were between high value partners of similar level. Do you happen to have a link to that comment or post? I find that really interesting because I happen to believe the same thing. I mean, it just makes sense. I think about it in terms of money to make it easier to digest. The man who makes 25k per year surely highly envies the man who makes 75k per year beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:39 PM
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> Men have a wider range of preferences and typically an inferior threshold required to feel attracted to a woman compared to vice versa; Women tend to have a much more narrow range for what they find attractive. As a result of this very observable fact of life Hold up... There's a wider range of women who are attractive types to men? Think you got it backwards there. Women are pretty universally agreed upon by men, as for who is attractive and who is not. Men have much more disagreement about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:32 PM
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Why is it that I see women (not just you, but many) on here calling every opinion and course of action in life contrary to their own beliefs a low self-esteem choice? Is your way of doing things the only way to have high self-esteem? Are you the epitome of good self-esteem? Is that why it needs to be said so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:16 PM
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Why is it that I see women (not just you, but many) on here calling every opinion and course of action in life contrary to their own beliefs a low self-esteem choice? Is your way of doing things the only way to have high self-esteem? Are you the epitome of good self-esteem? Is that why it needs to be said so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:16 PM
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If she was open to no longer being a feminist but had been raised that way Why not? But be cautious A feminist who stays a feminist, or a staunch feminist who reaches SJW territory, is bottom tier in LTR value. They'll never, ever treat you well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:14 PM
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Ichiro practically ran towards first base mid-swing and had one of the highest batting averages in MLB history. Would you ever teach that to a little leaguer as "good" form? No? Then why the fuck does it work for Ichiro? The truth is: shitty strategies can work in anything. That doesn't mean you should seek to replicate them. What you're not seeing are the good things the guy is doing, that allow him to do something shitty in addition. For Ichiro, he was fast as fuck, which meant he was practica…
/r/askTRP21/07/20 12:07 PM
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No. Women reject men for a myriad of reasons, many including nothing to do with you. Maybe she has a BF. Maybe she's fucking LeBron James. Maybe her pussy hurts from anal with a dick so big the last night it reached all the way around and damaged her pussy too. Who the fuck knows. If one woman rejects you, it means absolutely nothing. If every woman you make moves for rejects you, the issue is you, not her. You're the common denominator.
/r/askTRP21/07/20 12:02 PM
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Don’t blame men. Nobody living today is the reason we have make-up as I pointed out to the other commenter. To be honest I don’t see the big deal. Women look better with it on. I am pro-makeup. But I guess that’s easy to say when you grow up with a mom who’s in the beauty industry lmao. Though I will say even I do prefer girls who don’t look vastly different without it... if a 7 or 8 takes it off and is a 4, that’s kind of a turn off tbh. But most girls only lose a point or 2 without it, which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:24 AM
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None of the women or men alive have anything to do with the invention of make-up, which dates back hundreds if not thousands of years and historically had been used by both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:22 AM
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Surely, and women definitely use makeup at higher rates than say men using steroids or something. But I do think it’s a bit overblown on this sub as many men here seem to think these women who drastically transform themselves are the norm They also completely ignore the fact that their standards are shaped by make-up. If we lived in a world without make-up, there'd be no expectation for women to look as good as women do without make-up. No shit they look worse without it because you expect them …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:17 AM
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I mean, if you want to look only at these factors, yes of course it happens. My own LTR is an example and I’m sure I’m not alone. She’s very mildly better looking than me—at first glance we’re looksmatched, but if you got ticky tacky about it, she’s a little ahead of me. Maybe 0.5 on a 1-10 scale. But “status” wise she was born to wealth and I just was not. My parents were your everyday working Jack and Jill. And while the income we both earn now is similar, our “net worths” including inheritanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:44 PM
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Yeah, and not too many guys really have that. Pretty much everything within the range of normal is pretty unnoticeable I'd imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:29 PM
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I think this thread would be super interesting to re-do but instead of assigning everyone a base 10 points they should get as many points as they offer. For example asking someone who's theoretically a 9-9 to assign 10 points to someone... they'd never be pleased with the result of any combo, since that isn't someone they'd date. On the flip side, someone who's a 3-5 wins big time in this scenario. Of course they're willing to date a 4-6 or 3-7. It could simulate the SMP a bit if people had to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:59 PM
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Eh it's not all it's cracked up to be. I actually found out like a week ago bc I never measured it LOL. I'm 22. No girls really ever even noticed. Including my LTR, who the closest thing to saying that said her only FWB in her past "must have had a tiny dick because it was much smaller." I just laughed and thought nothing of it, but ig this explains that lmao. But she had no clue either and we've fucked many many times lol I've heard girls complain that big dicks hurt them in the past (about oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:55 PM
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Idk i’m 7 inches and never had a problem. Tho ig casual girls may have just never said it and my GF is 5’8” so maybe her vagina is just deeper lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:41 PM
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If she’s a 1, that means her personality is so bad she’s probably a murderer. But fuck. I’d rather be dead than date a 1/10 looks female. Sign me up for the 9/10 looking murderer. Edit: damn, misread and realized we’re supposed to add to 10. I guess I’ll go 7:3 looks:personality. Still a shitty relationship, but the 7 is worth more trade-off than a 6:4 is and a 5:5 would just leave me with a completely average woman on all accounts lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:32 PM
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What part of the word average means short to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 12:07 PM
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I disagree that women have it easier. I think both genders have respective pros and cons. I think an average woman has it better than an average man, but an average woman is nearly capped at average while an average man can ascend. That said I’d rather stay as a man like I am. I recognized shit worked this way and chose to ascend. I’d hate to be born with a biological cap
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:39 AM
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"Dating will already be pretty difficult for you. Don't make it even more difficult by pushing it off until you're even uglier, especially if you spend that time sleeping around"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 02:45 AM
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Yes. Not guaranteed to last forever, not achievable unless you’re desirable, not impossible for tough times between you to strike regardless, not a majority of women. But yes. What you do with that info is up to you.
/r/askTRP19/07/20 11:30 PM
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It was the length of a short story. No I didn’t
/r/askTRP19/07/20 11:02 AM
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Oh, I agree in OP's situation it's not an option. If she's asking for an open relationship, she's not into the idea of a one-way open relationship. A one-way open relationship is something you establish before you even LTR her, and at your own suggestion. Just was clarifying for the passerby readers--that there's really not a good reason to engage in a true open relationship. Didn't want to risk some autistic dude reading that and thinking... "Hmm, if only the top 10% of guys can handle an open …
/r/askTRP18/07/20 10:38 PM
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She’s been very good to me. So good that she wants some side dick? Yeah, definitely too good to let her go. You need to put a ring on it.
/r/askTRP18/07/20 09:59 PM
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OLTRs are almost NEVER worth the hassle unless you're in the top 10% of males Read this and agreed. Saw below you meant OLTRs as in two-way rather than one-way open relationships. Nah. Top 10% dudes can land a one-way arrangement. A two-way open arrangement is bad no matter who you are. Top 10% dudes have no reason to compromise.
/r/askTRP18/07/20 09:56 PM
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Clearly not if someone doing well offends you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 09:24 PM
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Pathetic. Don’t even know me, yet she deserves better? Well at least I’m sure you’re getting what you deserve LOL, while you can just hope I get “karma” lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 09:16 PM
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Well who says attractive women are only attractive? I don’t agree with that premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:52 PM
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Attractive women do not “end up with” average men on average.... what sense does that make? Why would they all just willingly settle like that? Who do the attractive men end up with? Average women? Why would both attractive men and women settle on average people, when they could just date each other? Come on—think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:30 PM
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Men gatekeep relationships among women who will fuck them. Thing is, girls still often choose to leave once the gate is open. And they aren’t forced to enter every open gate. Think about it like this. Ugly women can still gatekeep sex from an attractive man. But that man is likely to have an open gate, and not likely to “enter her gate.” Even if he does enter the gate, it’s likely he won’t enter it again. She was still the gatekeeper—he just has free will too, and other, better gatekeepers will …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:03 PM
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That’s fair. I’d expect the varying ages to matter too—girls are just not as serious at 22 as 40+ (how old I’d assume you are lol). Also idk I think the whole Chad concept is goofy as most people just think of Chad as “guy who does better than me.” Lots of more virgin-esque guys do treat me like I’m some “Chad” lol. More normal guys act like they’re shocked I do better than them. And attractive guys... I just blend in 😂 most of my friends skew more towards average tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:03 PM
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My LTR is low N (3) and I’m high N (20-25) Sometimes she jokingly gives me shit about it and calls me manwhore or whatever lol. Mostly I don’t think she thinks much about it at all. Part of me suspects she’s proud to be “the one that got me” but she’d never admit as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:31 PM
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I don’t really believe in that whole “20% of men are Chad” thing. It’s kinda for virgins lol. I just find it funny tho that every girl will deny anyone she knows would fuck a guy with a high n-count. As a guy with one and as a guy with friends who have them, it’s just blatantly untrue. I mean, maybe it changes with age. But I’m 22 now and from 19-22 it’s practically felt like I could fuck (almost) any girl I want lol. Of course, I don’t ever even approach women so these are all “warm meeting” wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:18 PM
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I meant how do those guys get high n-counts, not the women. Interesting. So women you know don't have sex with the men that women have sex with. Very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:56 PM
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women on the upper levels still end up with more average looking dudes I know a very slim amount of attractive women who don't date other attractive men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:54 PM
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Nah, but they do deserve whatever they get. Which is most commonly someone similar
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:20 AM
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Everyone is an agent and a product who makes their own demands and also sets their own price. You can set whatever prices you want, but what's it matter if nobody will pay it? And if somebody does pay that price, then that was your value all along. The market decided so. If it was so easy to just 'set your own price,' why aren't you with the richest, hottest, best girl alive? You should have set your price higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:21 AM
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it becomes a problem when they think that their looks entitle them to a certain quality of person, whether they also be attractive Any time I see something like this, I think: "So let me guess. If someone's naturally born good looks shouldn't mean they can date other good looking people, it means they should date uglier people (possibly you). Because those people are more deserving." Yeah, doesn't work that way. Attractive people will always seek each other out. Nothing wrong with that. They're …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:18 AM
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I was going to reply but now I don't need to. The sexual marketplace does not care who works the hardest. It cares who has the traits other people want. For women, that's good looks. Doesn't matter how that happened--just that it did (or didn't)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:12 AM
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Nah. Maybe depending on what your standards are relative to how bad she looks. For example if you theoretically wanted to date a 4.5 and this chick is a 4... maybe you'd compromise. But a dude who wants a 6 probably won't go for a 4 no matter what. I know I wouldn't go for anything that low. Probably not the nicest thing to say, but hey, I'm not a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:07 AM
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You think they're more likely to chest due to lower self esteem? Partially that, mainly that they'll view any man they're with as their equal, which is low value. Men they're not with can still have high value, so they can want to fuck them. If a girl is higher value and views their man as their match, well it serves the ego more to write off other men as 'beneath them' rather than engaging those men.
/r/askTRP18/07/20 03:56 AM
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Why do you want to procreate with a woman with shit genes, regardless of her money? Don't sell yourself short like that. Even beyond kids' genes it's just... kinda sad, and not fun. Marriage is never a good idea. It's a bad contract regardless of your situation.
/r/askTRP18/07/20 03:54 AM
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Eh my LTR knows most of the shit this sub would say she shouldn't. Hasn't changed a thing. Key is: we've been together a while, nearly 4 years. You wouldn't want to dump this shit on a girl soon after meeting her. She's your LTR, not your therapist. I just provide it in the frame of 'back story' rather than 'my past trauma I am still overcoming'
/r/askTRP18/07/20 03:52 AM
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You'll know when you get there Posting you on social media often ime is more of a red flag... lots of chicks I've hooked up with in LTRs do this (which is how I end up finding out they're in an LTR, as they've never disclosed beforehand) But for the beginners, some things to look for: willingness to fuck you, suck your dick, do activities you propose, be pleasant around you, etc.
/r/askTRP18/07/20 03:50 AM
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Yeah but I don’t think of it like that. Firstly I believe more in the 10% rule than the cliche 20%. Secondly I think the 10% breaks down more like: 2% of that 10% appeals widely to 10% of women, accounting for 50% of women pursuing different 2% segments of the 10%. I think something similar happens with women from the 50-80% range pursuing men (for casual sex) in the 10-40% range—with obviously some overlap of the top 50% girls also pursuing men from the 10-40% range for casual sex, but in lesse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:42 AM
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Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:27 AM
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If 100% of men strictly adhered to only dating virgins (and it was possible), thus they had a 13% chance to be cheated on or whatever Or 100% of men only dated promiscuous women, thus they had a 46% chance to be cheated on The difference between these two groups would be 33% of men getting cheated on. For 1 in 3 men, it would make the entire difference. Getting cheated on in a serious relationship? That's years sunk. That's your children potentially enduring damage to their psyche as a result of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:17 AM
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Women don't want to know explicitly. But if all their friends think a guy is hot, or they know other women do? And then THAT guy shows them attention? They eat that shit up. They just like it to be subtle. The guy all your friends think is hot and you do too... yeah, so did every other group of girls. Lol. And even if it's something to overlook, the fact that women will overlook it just means it doesn't matter. And sure, many men overlook n-count for a more attractive woman... but not to the sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:09 AM
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behind closed doors. Exactly. Because men with experience have experienced the fact that women don't like to hear this. Ask me all about it. I used to be up-front. Learned the hard way that shit should be hush-hush. Now women would think I'm sex positive irl, when really I just get on Reddit to vent all the shit I wish I could just say in the real world. LOL. And all the other attractive dudes I know feel the same--we'll talk about it together. Chick is hanging out with us? Yeah, if you say some…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:02 AM
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The statement you made could be turned around for women as well. No it can't because men don't care about n-count for casual stuff, just LTRs. It makes zero sense to care about it for anything other than an LTR. And you're right. Most people don't ask. But if they were to find out, women are far more likely to overlook it because they otherwise like the guy than men are to overlook it because they otherwise like the girl. But now think about it. If women are more likely to overlook it if they ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:58 AM
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Being attractive matters more to most men then being virgin or low n count. I'd agree, but promiscuity is probably a close second. For the girl's attractiveness to outweigh her promiscuity, she'd need to aim decently lower than she would have to otherwise (a slutty 7 will always outperform a chaste 5, but a chaste 7 would outperform a slutty 8 on the SMP). And we all know women don't want to aim lower than they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:53 AM
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My n-count is 25 and my LTR's is 3 FYI. Most of my friends who've been similarly promiscuous also want to find girls with similar pasts, and guess what: we can. There's a difference between everyday attractive guys and famous attractive men. To pursue becoming famous, one most likely has a degree of insecurity and attention-seeking behavior integral to them. For those guys, they're more similar to girls with those traits as well. Celebrity women have that because it's "in." Additionally, those g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:51 AM
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The nature of one's relationships are after all an extremely important component of one's life. We wouldn't all be here blathering about this stuff all day if we didn't see that fact for what it is. I agree. I think people recognize it as highly important and I still think it's severely underrated. After all, who do most people end up spending the vast majority of their time in adult life with? That's right--whichever opposite gender person they ended up picking from their youth. Pick right, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:46 AM
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So you see no difference staying single and celibate over having casual sex staying single? Where did I say that? There's a huge difference... it's just--nobody does that. Certainly nobody attractive does that. If they do, good for them, but again, this is practically a unicorn girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:41 AM
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True but maybe a little extreme. I mean, I'll fully admit I'd love a virgin. But I don't need a virgin. My own n-count is like 25 and my LTR will look the other way for me to grow it. Hers is 2 other than me, but I'd still take that deal over being with a virgin who'd ask for monogamy from me, especially considering my LTR is very pleasant and a HB8. I mean, there's more to girls than just n-count. But it is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:40 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:29 AM
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If women don't like men with n-counts, how do they get high n-counts? Is it only from those other women who don't care, but not women like you who are virtuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:24 AM
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If women don't like men with n-counts, how do they get high n-counts? Is it only from those other women who don't care, but not women like you who are virtuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:24 AM
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Women can feel free to not have sex by 19, but 95% of the ones who are attractive do. And really, there's not much difference between being single all those years and having sex during them. Fact is, our libidos are pretty damn high in those age ranges. They're gonna fill it somehow. And if they're going without sex all that time, good chance they're just low libido which isn't great itself. If somehow they pass through all of these potential pitfalls and are still attractive, I guess that's fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:03 AM
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If that’s the case, go for it. Just don’t do it for women or expect it to change women too much. You might see some mild improvements in that department but yeah
/r/askTRP17/07/20 11:15 PM
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Because women become sexually active, for a healthy person, from 16-19. They’re either having that sex inside or outside of relationships. If a girl spends all her most attractive years 18-26 having her sex outside of relationships, then that shows what she values. And it isn’t relationships. Why would I want a relationship with a girl who has demonstrated she doesn’t care about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:09 PM
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I mean that’s fair, but at some point you gotta make a decision. Either deal with it or move. Not sure how tied you are to there tho. I’d just like to warn that moving somewhere for better pussy tends not to go super well.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 11:05 PM
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Eh, end of the day my reasoning doesn’t matter. Imma just decide to do what I want. I’m in an LTR anyways so this is mostly in theory regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 10:01 PM
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Actually, I agree. I'd trade my situation for a more morally sound world. But still, I simultaneously recognize it doesn't hurt me like it hurts some. It's more for those guys that I think the more 'moral' world is superior to the 'survival of the fittest' type shindig we have going on currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:35 PM
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Because it's a masculine mating strategy. R-selection for offspring is possible for men, but not women. K-selection is the only available option for females when mating. When women attempt to pursue R-selective strategies, they're playing a man's game. Not feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:34 PM
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I also go to a Big 10 school. To see if we're on the same page here, I'll go through them really fast: Nebraska: dunno never been there OSU: Never been there but friends say hot girls MSU: hot girls UM: yuck Rutgers: no clue Indiana: hear it's similar to MSU UMD: decently hot girls, ime less than MSU Penn State: Decently hot Minnesota: no clue Purdue: no clue Illinois: no clue Wisco: pretty hot Northwestern: yuck Bet you can tell which I went to. Lmao. Depends which campus you're on how many of …
/r/askTRP17/07/20 08:03 PM
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Correct
/r/askTRP17/07/20 07:58 PM
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Having more sexual experiences isn’t a bad thing. It can actually be good as they know more about pleasing their partner. Having sexual partners doesn’t devalue someone. Agree to disagree but I take the opposite stance on each of these sentences. It is a bad thing, it teaches them to please their partner less because they value individual men less, and it does devalue them because they're less feminine (and more of a liability). You pay the same price to get less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:58 PM
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From personal experience, it definitely does make it easier to deal with. Source: I was an angry beta myself, until I racked up some digits. At that point I really stopped caring what her n-count was outside of if it seemed like it was a 'damage-inducing' number. Like, fuck if I care my LTR got fucked by some other dude? There's a couple dozen chicks out there who'll someday get married, and I banged that dude's wife too. It's a bit of a weird world to live in where so many people have banged ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:56 PM
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Interesting. Firstly, for me, I don't mind being hypocritical. I'm up near 30 myself. Secondly I'm much younger, so I'm not dealing with what 30 y/o women have been through. That said, I don't really ever expect to be on the market for women who are 30 for an LTR, so I don't really have any consideration towards what's a normal # for a single girl at that age. I'm 22, so a girl my age at 30 is a lot different. That said, if I did meet a 30 y/o when I'm 30, my first question would probably have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 07:52 PM
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I never see anyone talking about gradation. There is a huuuuge psychological difference between a person who has slept with 20- 30 people and a person who has slept with 100 - 200 people. I agree with the idea of gradation, but would probably shift the numbers downwards. 30 is pretty broken for an LTR, as is 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:58 PM
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Pressed for time but I'll offer a quick answer rather than my more typical thorough ones. You're right and wrong. I think the instinct is that, the closer to 0, the better. Obviously yes 0 is the ideal. If society structured itself to make 0 more common, I'd certainly pursue that. But still, it's not like 2 or even 3 means a girl is pure evil filth, at least in the modern context. If the modern context means I can get with 25 girls and a possible LTR may have had 2 or 3, tbh I think I would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:57 PM
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Nah, I do think they’re prob worse than America. But you can do well anywhere. There’d be less competition too
/r/askTRP17/07/20 04:40 PM
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Lol that effect would happen in any country at a school with that ratio. My school was like 50/50 and huge. But people I know who went to tech schools and whatnot would complain about the same
/r/askTRP17/07/20 03:19 PM
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Yeah, it really wouldn't be hard to climb to the top there. And there's definitely some attractive girls still.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 03:08 PM
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I mean that’s easy to say as a dude who’s not into dudes. IME, dudes from that area (not based off going to England, but exchange programs where people from England came here to my schools) look and act pretty feminine.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 02:51 PM
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Yes I would. Because the guys would be uglier too, if the girls are. So I would just be the best looking guy, and go for the one best looking hot girl lol. I guess my American accent would be pretty charming there too lmao
/r/askTRP17/07/20 02:44 PM
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I mean every guy has their own system, but for me, no being thin isn’t enough to be hot lol. That’s pretty low standards
/r/askTRP17/07/20 02:40 PM
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It extends to college women too. I went to school in one of our best college towns. Very few ‘hot’ women, lots of them were chunky after freshman/sophmore year too. Less chunkage than say 25+ women, but still not great as a whole
/r/askTRP17/07/20 02:33 PM
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I mean Britain doesn’t have a great rep itself, but America is home of the cheeseburger. And the women look like it. You probably went to NYC, somewhere in Cali, or another big city. That isn’t representative of America.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 02:30 PM
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This is news to me. Signed, An American
/r/askTRP17/07/20 02:25 PM
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Some definitely are. Not a majority. I've met a couple... hot girls w/ no social media, reasonable, very pleasant, low n-counts, few other traits. They're out there, just a minority. Gotta keep searching.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 06:36 AM
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The good LTR quality girls are pretty much all taken even by 27 or so. So yes, at 30, you're pretty much left with girls who didn't want an LTR (were busy fucking dudes) or nobody wanted to LTR (low quality). That combined with their physically lower SMV, there's really no reason to LTR an older chick.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 06:26 AM
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You think there's no LTR worthy women because this one turned out not to be LTR-worthy, and you misjudged her character? Please. Vetting is talked about constantly. Vetting does not mean the first girl you attempt to vet will check all your boxes. The need to vet at all implies that most won't. This is not really surprising info at all.
/r/askTRP17/07/20 06:24 AM
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Eh, women respond to it pretty well and pretty universally. Works for me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:35 AM
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Nah n-count is pretty important, but it's not an end-all-be-all. But you can generally sus out a girl's general n-count without needing the specifics, too
/r/askTRP17/07/20 05:35 AM
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Well not every guy who does something like that is going to be "an ugly short man"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:33 AM
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Let me walk you through a few quick bullet points. It's completely fine to feel this way and decide to be single. It's your right and your decision to make. Some think it's a great life. Some don't want kids and all that. Completely fine and can be a fun way to live. HOWEVER, get the facts RIGHT if you're going to choose that. You want to know what you're actually choosing between. LTRs can occur without marriage. Marriage is a shitty contract. I would never advise a man to enter a shitty contra…
/r/askTRP17/07/20 03:48 AM
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I don’t care about age because young women are hotter anyways. I also don’t have a firm cut-off for n-count. But moving beyond 5 I’d start to lose the sense she’s an LTR-minded woman who, at most, made a mistake or two—and I’d start thinking more she likes seeking out good dick. It’s a mindset difference. If she’s at 6, it’s not like it automatically becomes a hard no. But 10? 15? Alright, she’s not looking for LTRs at that point. But keep in mind this is for girls likely 18-25. I wouldn’t reall…
/r/askTRP17/07/20 03:36 AM
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I don't think debating semantics is helpful. Can you tell me the difference in these two sentences: "Fuck you, you whore." "Fuck you, you whore." Well, you got me. I typed the same sentence twice. Point is: it can be said many different ways in many different contexts with many different meanings. If you take "neg" to mean "negative comment I don't like" and "teasing" to mean "negative comment I do like" well no shit you'll get this result when surveying people. But that just isn't how it works.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 09:04 PM
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Would be helpful if we had more info. What’s your budget and earning power like? What hobbies do you enjoy? Weather preference? Different places offer very different things—there’s no blanket “ideal city”
/r/askTRP16/07/20 07:27 PM
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Lowkey agree. Subtle negs work wonders on beautiful women. 6 and below chicks have a higher need for security. Knowing you’re into them. They want the more stable kind of comfort because it’s more rare to them. Source: naturally sarcastic person whose default personality is pretty teasing-heavy, and attractive women have always liked me far more than unattractive women do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:23 PM
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Thank you for being one of the few girls in here that actually gets this. I’m a naturally highly sarcastic person. Can’t say my “negs” have ever gone poorly because it’s simply well-timed playful teasing, not mean-spirited or awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:19 PM
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ITT: no women have the slightest clue what a real, good neg is. Ever flirted with a guy, he lightly made fun of you while teasing, and you chuckled? Guess what: that was a good neg. Think, guy is 5’7” and girl is naturally 5’10” and wearing heels in a bar: “damn, didn’t think you were tall enough already?” The context makes it funny, delivered with a grin. It’s acknowledging the situation in a comedic manner. A neg is NOT “holy shit you giraffe, take those damn heels off or no man will ever want…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:15 PM
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Negging works really well when it’s more like teasing for me. “Negging” like you genuinely disapprove doesn’t work. “Why tf did you microwave your sandwich lmao” = laughs & “teehee ig i’m just a dumb girl” response “Who microwaves their sandwiches? What is wrong with you? :|” = you’re just being an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:03 PM
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Social Media is owned by liberals. Liberals push the de-masculinization of men. Without social media, those ideologies were not pushed. Men learned to be men from their fathers and tribe, who had a vested interest in their success. That these men had even survived meant they were successful, thus good role models and teachers.
/r/askTRP16/07/20 05:57 PM
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Ideally the government, but they don’t seem to have the people’s best interest in mind anymore. And no, it’s not a Trump thing. The political realm as a whole is owned by corporations
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:24 PM
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Just adding my 2 cents here. My LTR is tall and really attractive. Her granddad was a star college football QB and drafted to the NFL. She also went to a school in the top tier. Can't say that this hasn't crossed my mind as far as wanting to have children with her. As far as I see it, these kids would have enormous genetic potential. Our relationship is pretty good, but even if it wasn't, I just couldn't, in good faith, give my kids a completely average girl's genes just because it'd make my own…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:35 PM
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Come on. Is this a serious question? Look around you. How do children of divorced parents, of single parents, of parent(s) who died, turn out on average? How do children of stable two-parent households turn out on average? We can talk up and down about why and how this happens. It's not really the point. Kids do better with two parents than one. They do better with two stable parents than two unstable parents too. And it has always been this way. You say: if the system was so great, why did it e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:31 PM
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what if thats leaving a gap in the market for the person that CAN socialize well and develop a bif circle of friends? If that's becoming increaingly rare, maybe it'll stand out more? No personal experience here, but I am curious. Lemme tell you... you're onto something here. I won't lie I'm a solid looking guy. HOWEVER: Just by being friendly to girls in my college classes, I got quite a few lays really without even going out of my way. Even my LTR came from a class, and it fucking shocks people…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:15 PM
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Definitely not. I try to chime in on there to even out some of the terrible advice. But most of it's pretty bad. Typical "nice guy" rhetoric. That said it's a fun sub with some cool people, which is why I frequent. But yeah it's not a hub for dating experts lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:10 PM
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Because it's easy to be thirsty when you get none, I guess. I don't know. Mostly misplaced desperation. It's really pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:09 PM
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If we shifted IQs up, the average person would not be stupid because they would not be the same average person of today. The average person of today is quite stupid. I'm not comparing them against each other. Not sure why you'd think I couldn't understand the word 'average' enough to know that would be a stupid thing to say. They are stupid against standards of intelligence. Very low critical thinking skills present. Very low. And why would I think smart people would all disagree? They would not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 09:27 PM
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Yes. They act like HS boys towards them.
/r/askTRP15/07/20 07:50 PM
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No, the average person is not that smart or that good at anything. Or that driven. Look at the state of the world and the great inequalities between lower rung and higher rung people. Would intelligent, driven people allow that to happen? Hell no. The average older person gets their news off of Facebook. The average younger person gets their news from the Huffington Post. Neither group of people ever do anything except accept what they see at face value. How is any of that intelligent? To be hon…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:19 PM
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Eh, I was definitely wanted but definitely not prepared for lol. Maybe a little too wanted. There's all sorts of ways for it to go wrong tho is the point. There's different ways to look at it though--rather than it making me want to opt out, it more-so made me want to "do it right." But I completely understand not wanting them at all. After seeing what my sister put my parents through... definitely gave me some doubts to say the least. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 07:06 PM
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I mean, even average dudes can bang fat chicks. I used to be pretty average before my face matured a bit and I got some muscle. You’ve gotta be like bottom 25% to not even get fat chicks lol, and at that point, that’s your own doing. Like 95% of men can at least hit average if they just groomed and lifted even mildly because most men don’t do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:47 PM
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My LTR can do all that stuff lol. It’s family money rn but we’re both on track ourselves. And yeah, I think the kids thing is a big differentiator. If I didn’t want them, I would be all the fuck over your lifestyle. But I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:43 PM
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I mean if you value pussy that much, more power to you and I respect the hustle. But personally I grew up with an old dad who couldn’t really do any physical activity with me. So I really want to at least be moderately young enough to do that stuff. And that process takes a while—I wouldn’t feel comfy having kids w/ a girl until she was vetted at least 3 years. And I want kids around 30-32. Currently I’m in an LTR with a pretty high quality chick. As of now I wouldn’t mind keeping her. I’m kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:06 PM
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Eh, chance I’m willing to take. I’ve been going outside during the ‘rona too. Guess I’m just crazy like that. But 1 in 100 odds of something terrible happening... I’ll take those every time and live my life just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 06:02 PM
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Lmao I didn’t even pick up on that 😂 yeah ig the original posters got a bunch of accounts, only way to explain my upvotes lmao And I agree. Lots of LTRs DO seem like shit. But it’s far, far from being all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:59 PM
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Look, there's "no true Scotsman." You can decide that RP is all things you disagree with if you want to do so, and I cannot stop you. For me, that is not what RP is. And if that's what you walked away from it thinking, then you just didn't get it. Or you interpreted it differently than I do. I can't make you believe RP is anything differently than what I do, but I don't believe that, neither do many, many people who identify with RP. I will say, though: get men to stop thinking there are good wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:36 PM
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Alright then. Let's imagine I went to Harvard. I didn't, but the class of people was pretty comparable. And the school was just a rung below. Do you seriously think women graduate from Harvard as single mothers? That is asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:28 PM
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This I would agree with, though you can also bolster your chances by having 'good game.' Even though I'm attractive (roughly top 10%) I outperform my looks mildly (my LTR is roughly top 2%). A 10%er isn't just entitled to a 2%er. And I've banged other girls like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:27 PM
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It's fine if you're not familiar with worlds like this, but denying their existence is ridiculous. I don't know a single girl from my school who got pregnant and had a child in college. It just doesn't happen there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:50 PM
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Wdym alt? Like alternate account? No this is my only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:49 PM
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Because there was no risk? STD stats are highly exaggerated. I've probably fucked 20 girls without a condom and never gotten an STD. Especially if you're circumcised, STDs just don't transmit to men very easily. Even if a girl does have one, the chances you catch it are pretty slim. And these aren't gutter chicks going around getting STDs from meth addicts--they're college girls fucking frat dudes. And trust me... nearly every single girl I knew in college would get an abortion if she got pregna…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:48 PM
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Yeah, in my dad's case, I don't know whether or not the trade-off of him being beta was worth it or not. It's really a judgment call. On one side, he doesn't get much respect in my family from any of us. His life also seems really boring, and my mom is pretty demanding of him. He works a ton and doesn't do much else. On the other side, not to sound weird but for a 58 y/o woman my mom pretty much couldn't be more attractive. So in a way... he's doing well for himself. His brothers that were more …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:45 PM
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AWALT = All Women Are Like That AWALT =/= All Women Are That "Like" implies a spectrum "Like" means that even a good woman falls on the spectrum somewhere Unicorns are women that men believe to be off of the spectrum. "Holy" to their core. "Unicorns" do not exist. Please try to define the beliefs of things you actually know about. Yes, people think like this that go on the sub. If someone experienced catches it, they're supposed to correct them. There's not always someone who sees those posts an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:38 PM
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And I'm within that top 10% and can tell you it does... before I learned game, it was way more difficult. Now it's easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:35 PM
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I've fucked plenty of slim girls. Why the hell would fat chicks be more difficult? I don't even swipe right on them. Back when I did, 75% of them would message me first. They're desperate. If you don't see that, go hit the gym and report back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:35 PM
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you only love women who do not act like most of the real human women you’ve ever met To be in an LTR, you're only supposed to love one woman. I see no problem with not wanting to be with them all. What is special about loving everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:30 PM
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Lot of people here giving you shit, but I did the same thing in college. My logic: I'm mathematically not likely to get an STD (never did) and these UMC liberal girls at my school, if theyre going to be useful for anything would be their willingness to get an abortion to avoid ruining their career. Out of curiosity, is the mascot of the school you went to in your username? Because we may have gone to the same school and have similar beliefs about it. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:27 PM
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Well right now my SO pretty much is my only friend because I had to move for work post-college and corona has prevented me from making any new friends. I'm pretty satisfied in the relationship because me not having other friends is something that happens outside of the relationship. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:22 PM
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You can fuck who you want, but it's misleading to say "I had no problems getting laid" for it to be revealed that it's chubby or fat women. Pretty much anyone can do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:11 PM
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But again, they want lots of things, which inevitably lead to these same men, regardless of their preferences. Yeah you hit it here. People need to look around and realize n-count doesn't exist in a vacuum. Chances are, many, many highly desirable guys racked up big n-counts. So to get a lower n-count guy, you either have to hit the jackpot (which likely requires you yourself to be very high RMV and SMV) or settle with a lower-tier dude who couldn't do it. When faced with that option, women just…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:04 PM
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As for "choosing a long lasting relationship" (i.e. marriage/children) women don't generally go for players. The really dumb ones do but for most women af/bb is the standard True and false. Women pursue AF/BB once they've hit a certain age and realize they can't conceivably LTR an alpha and are done with taking the risk and getting hurt. On the contrary, women are very pleased to attempt LTRs with higher N guys when they're young. For some context: I met a girl my freshman year of college, aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:58 PM
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For High n count players, personality just doesn’t matter really. Excuse me? Pretty much every single guy I know who succeeds with women, myself included, has a few common personality traits. Similar-looking guys who lack those traits don't succeed. Personality is important even for 95% of attractive men. There's a very select few who have such high status or are so good looking that it's outweighed. Very few.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:52 PM
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Within college and HS, it was definitely the case that these guys had a high status and were envied to a degree... very well liked. Afterwards? Dunno because I'm not there yet. Graduated during this corona shit, which has kinda halted my progression to the adult world. From my perspective, though, what's "high value" does seem like it changes. I'd wager that at 30 people still on the market dating around aren't as enviable. Seems like it's more enviable to have gotten a high quality woman to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:47 PM
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A transgender woman is the one that started as a man but became a women? I'm not even sure. Assuming that's the case, firstly: I would think that I wouldn't end up on a date with them in the first place because it tends to be pretty obvious, and I'm not even attracted to masculine-looking females, let alone actual men converted to a woman. If I did find out, I'd feel lied to and immediately leave. Call me whatever you want, but for dating purposes, I don't consider that person female. They don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:38 PM
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Terpers think men are more interesting than women Where is this cold-hard fact located? Can you find it for me? Because I identify strongly with TRP and sure as fuck don't think that. Most men these days are pathetic simps... women tend to actually have a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:33 PM
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Because what you wrote is a misunderstanding of RP men and not an accurate depiction of them. I don't loathe women. I'm not in constant defensive mode. I don't psychoanalyze shit. Your entire idea is based on a faulty premise. For me, the most resonant parts of TRP are this: women like assertive/confident men, and will treat weaker men poorly. Love isn't magical, but rather is governed by an unseen, unspoken of, unfathomable SMP wherein the top men enjoy much more success than the bottom men. Su…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:31 PM
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No, it isn't. The point is it's been a long time and nobody can pinpoint exactly what it is. What difference does it make if it's been 100,000 years, 1,000,000 years, 1,000,000,000 years or 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years? These are all long enough time periods to say that any speculation just isn't going to get the answer right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:27 AM
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Status and talent don't have to be one in the same, neither does the talent necessarily need to earn money. I would argue talent is actually a turn-on for at least some women. I'm pretty good at a lot of things but not making the most money right now by any stretch of the imagination (working on it, but it's been tough graduating during COVID) and my looks are solid but not Chad-level. But when girls find out about some of the skills I have, there's quite a bit of "sparkle" in their eyes. And I'…
/r/askTRP15/07/20 02:03 AM
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The most dates I went on with a girl with no sex was 2, and the first one was really just a study session and not even much of a date. Second one was a study session with drinks scheduled afterwards and we banged then. I guess there's one girl I took on 3 dates and never banged. Outside of that, most of my lays were direct invites off of Tinder or pulls from other outlets that happened on the first meet-up or meeting. I really don't believe in waiting it out for chicks.
/r/askTRP15/07/20 01:58 AM
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No, why would girls deny a guy's high SMV just because he uses an app?
/r/askTRP15/07/20 01:56 AM
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For sure. Well best of luck with all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:03 PM
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Fair enough. I'm here to help. There is a value to the old school Alpha archetypes for sure. The pinnacle of success for a woman is having one very high value man who's committed to her. But nowadays, if they're to make a trade-off and receive something less than the absolute max, they're far more likely to make that trade-off on "beta" and "stable" traits than they are to do so about alpha or "fun" traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:21 PM
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Fair enough. I do see lots of things said by both men and women who aren't familiar with how both men and women act amongst themselves. What I said is definitely something that tapers off with age, but during immature HS ages, that's extremely present among men. So too was being shamed for dating unattractive women--but I haven't heard anyone shame a man for something similar in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:20 PM
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Working out is a good start for high value. You can drop bodyfat even while living with your parents it's more about calories you take in than anything else. As for where to start with game, just be an observer. Find guys who have the results you want and try to emulate them as you craft your own style slowly. Bonus points if they're doing it despite being ugly/broke/whatever (because there's less to learn when you see a rich handsome man succeed, as it's pretty obvious why he would succeed). As…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:25 PM
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Men do the same thing. Everyone chases value. Full disclosure: I believe myself to be a high value man. I've definitely treated women poorly at times when there's a value exchange happening that isn't equal. For example: one time I was in a grocery store with my LTR. She saw a girl there with her BF since freshman year of college, which is who she told me the guy with her was, as I didn't know. I didn't know she had a BF, but I banged her a few months earlier. I'd ghosted her afterwards because …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:19 PM
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What you say in the second paragraph, I do agree with. A brief anecdote: I will fully admit I was one of those hardcore TRP keyboard warriors... when I found TRP, from 16-18. But I'm 22 now and actually "get it." I'm probably more RP'd than I've ever been and you'd never recognize me as anything other than "an upstanding individual" in real life nowadays. I'm in a very stable LTR. But I agree. Most people just think of TRP as the angry betas still in training. The thing is, they're not supposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:10 PM
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I have never seen men treated so harshly, literally. Not saying this didn't happen to you or that your experience isn't accurate, but come on. The same happens to lots of guys. In our guys circles around these ages a dude would get ripped endlessly if he had a crush on a girl and it didn't work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:04 PM
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FWIW, chiming in from the other end as a man. I've had women initiate "dating" (not LTR but the processes leading to it) with me maybe... eh... let's say 8 times? I'd say that I completely dismissed roughly 3, fucked roughly 4 and dipped, and LTR'd one. While these #s may not seem great, it's a hell of a lot better than men get when they're the ones doing the approaching. I've probably approached 1,000 women and had sex with 20 and LTR'd one, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:57 PM
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I think insecurity and abuse tend to go hand in hand with red pill beliefs I think you'd have a point if you said there was a correlation, but saying hand-in-hand is too strong. You're more likely to be "abusive" if you otherwise act more RP than if you act more BP. Likewise you're more likely to get your wife fucked by a train of 5 dudes if you're BP than RP, but any assertion that this is "hand-in-hand" with being BP would make me look like an idiot. Because people of both sides can do either …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:35 PM
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High SMV is a big component of RMV for women. Aside from that, pleasantness. Loyalty. Supports the guy in various ways. It's really hard to say exactly because lots of these traits can vary guy-to-guy for what they'd want. I mean, I like things like sense of humor and low-n counts, but other guys will have standards all over the map for traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:24 PM
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That’s not really relevant... both of those amounts of time are pretty long
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:57 PM
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Down to the exact number? That would be a superhuman trait. Within a range? Sure. I can meet a girl and pretty quickly tell you if she tends to be promiscuous or not. Other details like if she went to college, where she went, if she had a dorm, if she's been single most of that time and since then, if she became sexually active young, etc--those can help me adjust my estimate downwards or upwards. Lots of other probing questions can help too. It isn't that hard if you know what you should be loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:45 PM
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Alright, if we're talking about chances, I wouldn't doubt that the "chances" would possibly be higher with a higher T (more aggressive) man who wants to take the lead lending itself to abuse, rather than some soyboy being a physical abuser. But here's the thing: chances don't mean shit about individual relationships. It's better to be the more masculine dude who doesn't abuse his wife, than the less masculine dude who doesn't. It's better to be the less masculine guy who doesn't abuse his wife, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:42 PM
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The answer to this "or" question is "yes." There's no perfect formula we can give you to calculate the exact desirability of any individual because it doesn't work like that. It's dynamic. For women, high valued men are kind of like a "you know him when you see him" type of deal. There's vast amounts of ways you can be high value, and none of them can be charted on a map. Outside of extreme instances, that is. Yes, a model-looking male is high value. Yes, a famous male is high value. Yes, a pro …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:37 PM
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He constantly put her down to make sure she knew he was in charge. How is that not red pill? Insecurity and abuse is not RP. There's such a tendency for BPers to label all things bad as RP and RPers to label all things good as RP. Y'all realize there's good and bad RPers and BPers, no? Shit is not that tough to understand, goddamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:32 PM
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how shallow, selfish, cynical, exploitative and cruel they truly are Then you're either not attractive or not good with women. From my experience with women I've concluded that they're a neutral entity, capable of ruining weak men and acting perfectly for strong men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:30 PM
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Red Pill. Where I got my beliefs went like this: Grew up with extremely BP parents. Thought that was how the world worked. "Happy life, happy wife," etc. Let the woman dominate because she's more competent, etc. In HS I didn't ever take the lead or anything. Waited for women to come to me since I thought they would if they were interested. Predictably I got zero women whatsoever. Found manosphere content online. Started with RSD & SimplePickup, then found TRP and the like. Saw that these men wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:26 PM
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It can, but it's not as straight-forward as the theoretical concept. Lots of girls will use men to jump a tier economically. Medium-earners can find high-earning BB. Low earners find medium earners. Etc. Dude is usually off a little with his social savviness and that's his trade-off. There's also the consideration of how money is spent when both earn similarly. Let's say they both DO contribute equally to all expenses. Okay, who picked the house? Who picked the pool? Who picked the cars? Who cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:20 PM
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Attraction? No Love that isn’t based on attraction? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:52 PM
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Just sounds like insecurity. 12 isn't even a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 02:12 AM
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I mean most things I’ll let them say their bit. But no, it isn’t believable in the slightest that any woman at all is attracted to out of shape bodies. If a girl said that irl, I’d laugh at her. Same here lmao. It’s just something women say to virtue-signal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 08:38 PM
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you changed and your girlfriend was still attracted to you doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a type. Nobody's type includes 15 pounds of lard on their bodies. Nobody thinks that being less in shape is more attractive than being more in shape. People who aren't in shape can be attractive--and women who don't have the most options could potentially choose a facially attractive, out-of-shape guy over an in-shape uglier guy... but if it's the same guy, literally nobody is more attracted to someone who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 07:38 PM
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Ok. Didn’t say it wasn’t. Said I don’t fear women like they fear men. That doesn’t seem to contradict what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 06:23 PM
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Yeah there’s more to it than just $. $ is important tho. I could list for you tons of outliers on both sides of attractiveness and income / income of partners not aligning. But bottom line is everything you can do to raise your value is important. Including, but not limited to, money.
/r/askTRP12/07/20 05:42 PM
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I found this sub at 16 and have stayed though I’ve disappeared and come back a bunch. 22 now Tbh with the restrictions placed on RP subs I’d expect the members of this here club to slowly shift up in age a bit, as retention of RPers is more likely than acquisition of new ones. But currently I’d say the most typical age range is 19-30, with some outliers in HS and post-divorce or eternal-bachelor guys. Lots of college students.
/r/askTRP12/07/20 05:25 PM
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With an LTR you’ve known a long time? Should probably at least know your general plans and that you’re not a forever-loser. Random girl? None of her business
/r/askTRP12/07/20 05:20 PM
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I can’t do beauty and cars but I can do beauty and income if you’d like because I’ve researched both. Punching the data into databases for 22-40 year olds. Based off that: 7: generic hot chick (to me). About top 10%. Income equivalent: 130k 8: very hot chick (to me), noticeably better than 7s objectively. Top 2-3%. Income equivalent: 250k roughly 9: extremely hot, absolute standout. Roughly top 0.75% of girls. Income equivalent: roughly 400k. Seeing these #s, it’s interesting because the incomes…
/r/askTRP12/07/20 05:14 PM
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My LTR is 5’9” and I’m 5’10”. Sure I’m not shorter, but fuck it it’s close enough. Key is this: there is no key at all. She’s just a chick. She wants everything other chicks want. Don’t pay it mind, don’t think about it, don’t allow it into your frame. That’s the key. Honestly being a similar height is nice in a lot of ways. That, and maybe kids with her could achieve the star quarterback dreams I was always too short to pursue. She’s got the height genes and her granddad was a 5th round pick or…
/r/askTRP12/07/20 05:04 PM
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I mean that’s attempted murder, not beating. I explicitly said that things like that are different. Her brute force I really don’t fear. Anything more than brute force, I’d honestly probably retaliate and/or break up. I do subscribe to “don’t hit a woman,” but that ends when my life is in danger like that train situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:57 PM
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It seems like a charmed life. I do well, but I had to learn how everything worked to do it. I guess it’s the definition of “first world problems” but damn would I trade spots. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:50 PM
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In a vacuum you might think this. But in reality, let’s say you met your absolutely ideal man, but he happened to have a history a couple or more years into the past. Would you really overlook him only for his sexual history? Now consider that these men are far more likely to represent your ideal men. Then consider that, even if you truly still wouldn’t date him, most women would (how he got that count in the first place). And suddenly it’s still not a bad idea for men to pursue this at some poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:51 PM
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People will want to take advantage of people like that. It won’t really increase your options among genuine people ime. My GF is a girl like this and I didn’t even really figure it out for like 3.5 years bc I inquired so little. If someone is interested enough to figure this out about you, it’s probably for bad intentions. If you broadcast this as if it adds to your value, it will probably push away genuine girls and attract the more gold digger types.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:48 PM
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Lmao, I knew a similar guy in college. I remember overhearing a guy ask him for advice on how to succeed with women like he does. He said “I just try to be happy and smile around them. It works because then they’re happy around me too.” LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:29 PM
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Seconded, especially to average and lower SMV guys. Average women think: “gotta let him know he has no shot, and let others know he has no shot.” Hot women think: “we all know he has no shot, so let’s give the poor guy some company”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:21 PM
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I’d way rather be hit. I’d think most men would rather be hit. For women it’s a little more complicated because the threat of a bigger stronger man is much more intimidating. Not that any of this has happened with us, but I “play fight” with my LTR and just seeing how easily I can pin her down and stuff... barring her using a weapon (which kinda changes the question as attack with a deadly weapon is a step beyond simply ‘beating’) there’s really only one of us who could truly hurt the other. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:17 PM
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Ok I mean some of the time that’s true tho. I mean one comment said she dislikes muscular/lean men and likes more dad bod type guys. That’s just patently a lie or non-recognition of the truth. My own LTR said that countless times... until I got in shape, that is. Many girls just feel they won’t get guys like that so they pretend they don’t want it. But why bother, you ask? I mean, I could just give you a different question. If you don’t feel you can give a truthful answer, why answer at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:01 PM
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I mean there could be more to it. What is attractive to them? Height? Face? Swagger? Wide shoulders? Acne? Attractive isn’t some universal term that means the same to everyone. But women seem inherently uncomfortable to talk about standards like that. That, or they don’t want men to know. Like I said, the other standards are kinda irrelevant. Because if a high SMV male who had none of them appeared, at least half those girls would relinquish half their standards. And I’m not saying this to be li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 12:50 PM
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Agreed. Very few mention any sort of looks qualifier or game/charisma qualifier. Many even say they DON’T want a guy who’s “too smooth” or “too attractive.” Can vouch with all my experience that women do in fact go for those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:34 AM
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This thread is kinda pointless. Firstly we’re talking about BFs, which is going to skew lower value than men they’d fuck casually. And I wouldn’t want to date a girl for whom I simply met “the BF criteria.” Secondly this all assumes women know what they want, can articulate it, and would pursue that. In reality, most women end up with men they “didn’t expect to like so much.” Add that BF standards are influenced by the SMV of the person with the standards and Reddit skews low SMV, and we really …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 01:15 AM
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Rulers make for better measurement than assholes. Think he held the ruler while this dude straightened it out nice and long for him
/r/askTRP11/07/20 10:26 PM
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Nah, I measured my dick the other day for the first time and turns out it’s pretty big. Didn’t even know. No girls I’d fucked could tell either. Not even my LTR. I was one of the first guys she’d fucked so she had nothing to compare it with and thus thought it was average. It really doesn’t matter whatsoever.
/r/askTRP11/07/20 10:24 PM
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You don’t HAVE to think exactly this way. Realize there’s nuance. My LTR banged me our first hangout. She had one ONS in the past too and 3 total partners. Idrc. I got the best she gave to anyone, and it’s been a good relationship. Honestly, barring a virgin, I’d take a girl who put out for me quickly any day of the week, long as it’s not a habit for her. Pretty much every non-virgin has had or will have a ONS, so if it wasn’t you, it was someone else. Rather it was me, and as few “someone elses…
/r/askTRP11/07/20 09:12 PM
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Apparently so
/r/askTRP11/07/20 08:57 PM
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Honestly masks have killed the little desire I did have to really meet girls in public. I can't really get that attracted to them only seeing half their face.
/r/askTRP11/07/20 07:54 PM
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your average redpiller's sexual strategy is to hit the gym hard, throw in some roids, and bang various quality of girls off tinder. Guilty. Though I will say, not a terrible strategy to be honest. Also I used SARMs and not roids. Too young to want to significantly fuck with my test by injecting more or anything. Did this throughout college, mixed in some bangs with girls from my classes and social clubs without doing any cold approach at all, racked up a solid n-count and got an LTR of high qual…
/r/askTRP11/07/20 07:52 PM
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Why are you so butthurt at a random Reddit user? Nothing better to do with your life? Sad.
/r/askTRP11/07/20 05:05 PM
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*makes a non statistical retarded claim *is fact checked *calls the other person gay Nice and mature lmao
/r/askTRP11/07/20 04:34 PM
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Do some actual research. Your friends going “errr derrr i’m 9 inches bro” is not data.
/r/askTRP11/07/20 04:15 PM
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Because chances are you will be a creep when starting out
/r/askTRP11/07/20 02:33 PM
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"Your proposal to go further" Do it, don't ask for it. "They always want to take things slowly, go on dates, get to know each other" How do you even know this? Lead and initiate the events you want to do. They shouldn't even have a chance to do this. "How do I become the hookup guy?" Step 1: lose virginity. Step 2: get lots of experience, both getting rejected and your spare success. Step 3: ????? Step 4: You're the hookup guy
/r/askTRP11/07/20 02:27 PM
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They’re not worth it. They’re on Tinder. I’ve fucked like 10 girls off Tinder and gone on dates with maybe 15. None were worth an LTR. Even beyond the fact you can get better looking chicks outside Tinder, they’re low quality
/r/askTRP11/07/20 06:24 AM
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Idek what to say to this since it’s stupid. Dick size doesn’t matter at all. Fun fact measured my dick for the first time ever the other day. Apparently I’m 7 inches, top 2% of guys. Literally never had a girl say I’m anything besides average. No one has even noticed and I didn’t know myself. Most irrelevant thing ever that’s very overplayed
/r/askTRP11/07/20 06:17 AM
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No
/r/askTRP11/07/20 06:09 AM
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It's okay. I get the revulsion to people who claim to be somebody who are collecting unemployment. It's off-putting for obvious reasons. There's just more to it in this case. The only reason I'm even collecting unemployment is because I don't have those parental connections or anything to fall back on while I look for a job. I would be homeless or allowed to live at my parents' house, which is all sorts of dysfunctional. But, yeah, no hard feelings. I get it.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 09:15 PM
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Personally I'm interviewing for technical sales positions while holding certifications in IT, and a minor in Comp Sci from a top college. Base pay at most of the companies I'm looking at is around 70k* with expected commissions for a first-year rep ranging from 20-50k. Have also thought about pivoting to straight-up IT where an expected first-year pay for someone with my background is more like 70k. My best friend got 75k, and we have almost the same background. Most of these pays are for busine…
/r/askTRP10/07/20 08:41 PM
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Autism alert
/r/askTRP10/07/20 08:06 PM
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Idk. I’ve seen chicks thinner with narrower frames, bigger asses, and bigger tits all simultaneously on the same black chick as I’ve seen on any white girl. And there’s really a lot of them like that.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 07:12 PM
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I can see what you’re saying and agree. But to think I’m just “some guy on unemployment” (like the other guy said) is asinine. Also, the roommates thing wasn’t to go “hey look at them.” It’s just to show what the norm is for someone in my shoes. Could I fail? Yes. But it’s really not the norm among people in my program at the university I graduated from. Appreciate the advice in any case.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 07:10 PM
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And if you don’t know how these things can be of value to a girl, that’s on you
/r/askTRP10/07/20 07:07 PM
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They think a hot guy is a Korean k-pop star DEFINITELY not. I have a very masculine look and think those guys look like fags tbh. Androgynous look is gross to me on men. Gronk is the epitome of Chad Thundercock, facially Maybe to some girls. But really, you can look masculine and High T without looking like an idiot. Lot of girls don't like the idiot look facially. It would be different if I denied his overall high SMV in his appearance. I'm not. He just looks like he is stupid. And again, a lot…
/r/askTRP10/07/20 06:41 PM
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Then read other people’s posts. Idc
/r/askTRP10/07/20 06:30 PM
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If you wanted to correctly reword what the other commenter said, you would have written: "It's MY fault I fucked a Chad, not his (or yours)!"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:24 PM
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And if you are lucky, she can become sexier post relationship and still feel the same due to how she was treated when she was ugly As someone whose GF actually did this, I think that this isn't entirely reflective of the reality of what happens in this situation, but it can still work out nonetheless. More close to my experience, she recognized a large gap in our SMV at the start. So she treated me like a king. She got fit and mildly surpassed me in SMV--I'm high SMV, but not as high as her--but…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:19 PM
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Stupid response. Most recent job I interviewed for makes 100k out of college. Got to the final round of the interview process. Second time that's happened. We're in a global pandemic. You think a 22 y/o who's inches away from starting their career off with 6 figures during a global pandemic isn't thriving? Yeah, okay. Think whatever you want. I don't need to wait a month to actually land a job like that to know I'm going to do so. I went to a school like that. Every single roommate of mine who h…
/r/askTRP10/07/20 05:59 PM
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I saw some guy here a few weeks ago say that Rob Gronkowski was ugly. Depends what you mean. Facially, I don't think he's that great looking. Looks like a moron. But weigh in his body and height? Yeah, his looks would rate very high for women.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:36 PM
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I won't call bullshit about his observation, but as a general trend, you're probably right. His story reminds me a lot of my own because I have some nerd hobbies, a few friends who are mostly low SMV (besides one who is even way higher SMV than me), and still bang hot women generally when I want to. In HS, I was low social caste and girls did not want to date me. The second I went to college, the script flipped and I started banging hot girls within about 6 months. Popularity and the like vanish…
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:34 PM
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unique game I was surprised to see this listed, but you are absolutely right. I am an individual who was considered "weird" in HS because I wasn't interested in social conventions, but rather just doing whatever it is I like and not giving a fuck (similar to frame). Since I left HS, hitting on girls always gave me such polarizing results. I've had below average women reject me and laugh because I thought I had a chance, when to me, I thought they'd be an easy lay. Then I've had girls like my LTR…
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:31 PM
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Consider this: they provide a value that you're missing and the girls aren't. They value something you don't have, and you don't even know what it is. Personally I somewhat fit this mold you describe and somewhat don't. Been having a hard time getting employed due to corona and my particular industry taking a hit (attempted to pivot, but that's been proving difficult as well). As such I'm currently living on unemployment, though it's not that bad since I just graduated in May. Would be different…
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:26 PM
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Successful career means one of two things. You love what you do and are happy you can accept enough money to live on by doing it You love the lifestyle what you do can provide and are happy enough to accept that job as a necessary evil to provide it
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:17 PM
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white girls want to have the body of a latino girl. Black girl*
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:16 PM
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Completely depends what you mean. Bulking up to put on weight INCLUDING a bubble butt, alongside some fat? Just stay skinny. A thin girl with some ab lines whose ass pops off her body? Now that's sexy as hell. Sign me up.
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:14 PM
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That’s no different than Tinder
/r/askTRP10/07/20 04:23 AM
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Stay in shape yourself, establish good boundaries, keep fucking your girl, maintain the attraction between you two, vet well before setting up relationship, don’t tolerate bullshit, don’t become insecure, don’t flaunt on social media (sign of insecurity), etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:14 AM
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Absolute minimum? Well, when I'm 80, I guess I'd take a saggy old lady. That's probably the worst I'll ever be willing to take. That aside, at any point during anything remotely resembling my youth, I think if I HAD TO settle--a HB7 with a pleasant personality would suffice. Can't deal with bitchy or negative chicks, and just have zero interest in banging a girl I don't find at least pretty attractive multiple times. After that I think next thing I'd evaluate is how promiscuous she seemed in var…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 01:33 AM
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It doesn't matter. Most women are fat, most men are fat, there's tons of people. Fatties cancel out and get ignored by the non-fatties, so they've got their invisible sub-species and there's still plenty of non-fat people for the other non-fat people to find and attract
/r/askTRP10/07/20 01:14 AM
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I have seen the nuance you’ve added both in the post and the comment section that the effect you mention tails off as you go higher SMV. I actually respect that nuance and agree with it. Thing is, I don’t really know any guys who aren’t high SMV or “alpha” that run their relationships well, regardless of the girl. That male 8 is high SMV af—most jacked guy I’ve met at my whole school—but he acts beta. He’s had 2 LTRs in college, both below him in SMV, both treated him kinda like shit. The guy wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 05:11 PM
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This is ridiculous. Everyone likes charismatic people. That’s the damn definition of the word. It basically means “appealing to be around and persuasive.” Everybody likes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:51 PM
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In theory this checks out perfectly. “People will attempt to make up for deficiencies in one area by attempting to be good in another.” In practice it may have a correlation but it’s not everything. Since people don’t function with strict adherence to the SMP—it’s more of a loose adherence. For example let’s look at the 5 LTRs that lived in my house last year. I’ll rate them all 1-10 for each partner roughly and a very brief description. I think most relationships are a bit scattered like this a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:49 PM
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No, we don't. People who brag about their intelligence are probably not that smart, since they're at the very least proving that they aren't smart enough to have learned that nobody wants to hear it. The only time I really cite my intelligence is when it's relevant to the conversation--which I guess it somewhat was here, but still. "People aren't fun to talk to because I'm too smart for them" just means you don't have social skills. There's smart women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:44 AM
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(which are also only selectively interesting. As an example, you acting like a moron while you're drunk is not interesting or funny to me at all). This is also true. What I think makes some people interesting is what others think makes people boring. I actually think drunk stories are funny. I also like to talk about worldly events a fair bit, but for example, my parents think that's super boring. And I think they're boring because they don't really know about anything going on in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:42 AM
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I'm extremely boring you would never want to talk to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:39 AM
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About 4-5 months to start getting consistently noticed for it
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:52 AM
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It's about patience. Plate lots of girls, vet, and be ready to wait until you find the right fit. Takes a while if you do it right.
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:52 AM
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Yeah, ime, despite being high value, most women aren't attracted to me. That's just going to be true across the board ALMOST no matter who you are, unless you're a serious, serious Chad / famous person. The difference is more in who DOES like you than who doesn't.
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:50 AM
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You got it backwards. Most girls act pure in HS and don't hook up as much as they will in later years, then get away from parents and a rep that'll follow them in college so they let loose and slut it up for 4 years.
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:44 AM
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These women go for any man they can get that's why. Everyone attracts them they're trash so they go for every man
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:39 AM
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I responded but yours was actually a lot better and more thorough. Listen to this guy.
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:36 AM
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Take over your parents' business, easy decision. Unless you truly would hate it.
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:35 AM
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Met mine in a college class. I recommend just general sober environments where there's some kind of screening to high value girls. For example an athletic club would have girls who stay fit and are social. Avoid bars and online dating
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:33 AM
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You can do whatever you want in life. Just be aware of the potential consequences and prepare for them or accept them thoroughly
/r/askTRP09/07/20 01:32 AM
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Romantic: RP concepts have helped a lot as it allowed me to embrace ‘the real me’ Non-romantic: didn’t change much but allowed me to accept who I am more. I’m just not somebody interested in befriending the average person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:58 AM
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Women don't like the idea of men improving World is BP by definition Things that challenge people's world-views offend them Lot of people wish this wasn't true, so they delude themselves into believing what they want to be true, is
/r/askTRP08/07/20 12:29 AM
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Short answer: yes, for most people Long answer: you don't need it. You'll see one day.
/r/askTRP08/07/20 12:23 AM
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Tbh I do like conversing on male-only spaces as well as inter-gender spaces. Let’s be real: our minds work differently. What women mean when they say certain things is not what men interpret. Likewise, men who disagree are more likely able to relate to my experiences and see where it came from, rather than women who will just dismiss it as if I’m an incel for lack of a better explanation as to why I have a differing opinion. But overall I agree. I am RP but dislike how the sub at times is swarme…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:48 PM
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My point exactly. None of the funny people ik irl have performed comedy even once lol. And they're definitely funny
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:48 PM
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indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:48 PM
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uh what
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:47 PM
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Do your research because I don't want to take 30 minutes to type out a full medical report on it for you. What I will say is people generally think it's more dangerous than it truly is. If you become super juiced up on loads of gear to the point you hardly need to work out to get huge, yeah, that's not going to be good for your health. If you take a moderate amount here and there to supplement your lifting, you'll get big and probably never see any significant damage occur to your health. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:20 PM
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Why does it always have to be one vs the other. Both genders have their pros and cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:18 PM
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Excuse me? If 20% of the like 3.5 billion men on the planet were the only ones with kids, that is like 900,000,000 different men who could have kids. Why in the hell would people need to fuck their siblings with 899,999,999 other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:16 PM
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Steroids are not as dangerous as most recreational drugs that people do, but they come with many more benefits than recreational drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:12 PM
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Alpha is relative. Compared to 1,000 years ago, most people alive now are Alpha. Our average height has grown from like 5'2" to 5'10". You telling me the average 5'10" beta male wouldn't be an Alpha 1,000 years ago? Our IQ also increases by about 3 every 100 years or something like that. AF and BB are both sexual strategies that lead to reproduction. One may be better than the other, but they are both valid. If 1,000 people pursue an inefficient strategy, 500 may succeed. If 500 succeed, and tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:09 PM
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I don't like comedians being used as the standard here tbh. IME, the funniest guys tend to be the more attractive guys too. Funny girls tend to be similar. In real life. Put them on a stage, though, and it's not like any of these people would deliver a good show. It's just entirely different to actually being a funny person in day-to-day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:06 PM
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No, that's the point. When the women are missing, things are still quite fun. To you. Generally, I don't like all-dude gatherings. Sometimes it's okay, but generally, prefer mixed or female company much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 09:04 PM
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Boring people have boring interactions even with interesting people. I think many of the people who think this should look in a mirror. That said, most people of both genders feel kind of boring to me. But there's not too big of a gender discrepancy between this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:59 PM
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Definitely not. Fortunately we don't live in a world where I need to make this complete trade-off. I'd rather the current situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:58 PM
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And what if it doesn’t get her noticed but she still wants THAT guy and not “another high SMV male” for whatever reason? This happens. I haven’t been approached by too many high SMV women, but I have been approached by them maybe once per year. Sometimes twice. Girls of equal value. And I’m no celebrity. This also happens(ed) in sober environments like college classes, not on the streets or in bars. Is it super common? Definitely not. Does it happen? Definitely. Are these girls damaged in some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:05 PM
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I generally agree. The sentiment about how guys fuck up on dating apps is incredibly true, though my route to "doing well" on apps may surprise you a bit based on what you said. My account looked a little like this... profile pic was me in a bathroom mirror taking a selfie with good lighting where I just look really good. Bio included a quip about how mirror selfies are stupid pics but idc. Second pic was from a fraternity date party with a really attractive girl hanging off of me with her arm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 03:39 PM
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Yeah, GL. All I gotta say. Just finished a school like this
/r/askTRP07/07/20 02:02 PM
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I don’t care about the rapper thing any more than I do if she just fucked some random guy for a year. I don’t give celebrities any special power over me and don’t recognize their value. But “body covered in tattoos” dunno about you but I’d stay far away.... but since you’ve gotten this far, I guess you’re into that?
/r/askTRP07/07/20 01:59 PM
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This sounds correct in theory but doesn’t quite work in practice, especially among high SMV people. High SMV women know they’re unlikely to be rejected even by a high SMV man, and there aren’t many very high SMV people. So if a particular high SMV man isn’t approaching a high SMV woman—for example, because he doesn’t notice her—and he happens to strike her fancy, the high SMV woman will feel confident to approach. She doesn’t feel the “risk of embarrassment from a rejection” because she’s never …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 02:49 AM
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This is true. However, I’ve always thought of it like this: I’m in an LTR with a girl I met when she was 19. If she gives me her high value youth, I’ll give her my high value old age. Same standard would apply to other women. I want their youth, but if they give me that, I’m okay with the trade-off. Women can only offer what they have, but I want all of what they have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 12:47 AM
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Yeah, along those lines, there’s a lot of “by the book” TRPers who read TRP, don’t have experience, and thus assert everything written in the sidebar as indisputable, proven fact without the necessary experience to prove or disprove anything they believe. In reality, there’s lots of nuance. Lots of finer details, exceptions, etc. No girl is a perfect “AWALT” and no girl is a perfect unicorn. Women may tend towards certain truths, but none of it is absolute whatsoever. When you have experience, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 12:29 AM
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Lol I was making a joke mostly. But on the serious side it’s interesting how split opinions are on this. From my POV I could see why some would see it as a negative, but personally my experience has not been that. My LTR is the highest value women I’ve ever fucked and she approached me first. Low n-count too and clearly inexperienced at first / not lying. And just generally I don’t notice any significant differences in quality between women who approach me and like me vs women I approach who lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 12:07 AM
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Good observation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:53 PM
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Eh I’ve had dozens of women approach me. Their traits are generally in line with the female population’s as a whole. They tend to be more extroverted, but not more promiscuous or lower value or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:28 PM
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FWIW, I’d like to consider both myself and my LTR high value and as is the case for you... she approached me first. And I’m a masculine “take the lead” kind of guy too. Contrary to this other opinion, it can definitely work for at least some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:24 PM
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Check his username
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:20 PM
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Yes, unless something means they don’t need to I wouldn’t call a movie star low value. Most movie stars likely have other people approach for them or are approached first. For normal people though, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:17 PM
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This guy gets it. Her value will be relative to the man she’s approaching, but her “absolute value” can be high. I’m sure high value women approach Zac Efron. *Don’t agree she needs to be lower. Do agree she needs to be equal or lower
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:15 PM
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Not sure if sarcasm, but my LTR approached me and she’s very submissive and pleasant. Ime higher value women are confident to approach because they fear and expect rejection less
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:13 PM
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Some cases yes, some no. I’ve been approached by a couple dozen women throughout my life probably. Some, including my LTR, have been high value. Some, mostly the girls I reject upon approach, have been low value. Depends who we’re talking about getting approached here. The higher value the man, the higher value woman who approach him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 11:10 PM
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Yes women agree to things like this. Source: no private marriage, but my LTR of 4 years stays with me even though marriage is explicitly off the table
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 09:32 PM
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Why even pay for the first date if that isn’t the precedent you want to set? For that reason I pay for 0 of the dates. Keeps things real clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 09:29 PM
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Well the idea is to find a woman by time you age out of reasonably dating down in age and getting a young one. That’s the real RP. Not sure why guys think they’ll be able to get every 20 y/o as soon as they hit 40. That’s unrealistic. If you’re a loser at 25, you’ll likely be a loser at 40 too. And 19-24 y/o women are fucking men who are 19-30 generally, not 40 y/os... unless they have daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 09:27 PM
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Be willing to accept my terms without pushing back against them helps. For example, I’ve been in an LTR 4 years now and around the year-mark explained that I never wanted to marry because of the risks to men. Haven’t heard anything negative about this even once. Few other things I could list as “my terms” but I won’t go into too much detail. Point is, I know I am not a BB to her because she’s willing to stay with me as I desire the relationship to be. When a woman thinks of you as BB, she wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 09:17 PM
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To the last paragraph: this makes zero sense. For many men their LTR represents the best they can do. How would it make sense that their fling would be better? This logic fails because of how the SMP works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 09:08 PM
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Refer to the posts about everyone’s n-count and/or appearance. Most here are not “Chads” though these subs do skew more attractive than Reddit as a whole. This is certainly a new take tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 09:01 PM
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To me it shows I probably want nothing to do with her. Women who have a high need to travel are probably high maintenance. And no, I’m not poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:54 PM
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Definitely a son. So much easier. Can just teach him what I know and he should do well with women and elsewhere in life The women’s side is much more complex and I know comparatively little
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:47 PM
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An interesting idea. I used to resent that my mom chose to make kids with a guy who was so fucking beta (even if my dad is actually really good looking, esp for his age nowadays) until I realized him being beta didn't mean I had to be. But if you change the parameters to what you said--him being ugly--well, you can't decide to not be ugly just because he was. I guess you could lift, but that can only do so much. I'm tempted to agree with you here. Selfish or not, I want the best possible start I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:17 PM
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Do whatever you want. I did this to a degree and it worked. May or may not be the same for you. Fucking uglies is no guarantee of hot girls in the future. I guess my best advice is hit on both simultaneously and slowly taper off more of the lower quality girls and focus more and more on the higher tier ones.
/r/askTRP06/07/20 04:05 PM
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Think it depends where you’re looking as people you wouldn’t normally group together being grouped together obscures #s for all parties. I went to a school where everyone was highly career-driven (good school) but unlikely to settle down (nobody came from a local area or stayed local). It also had a party element (big school) and anonymity from being a big school (women could sleep around anonymously and not be shamed due to its size). As a result men broke down like this... Chad: 50+ Reasonably…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:02 PM
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I’ve proven you’re nothing but a little baby* Trying to make vast claims. Can’t even type a grammatically correct sentence. Very credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 04:14 PM
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You laugh as if you’ve proven anything. Like I said, I was 50/50 between the two original posts. You’ve just lacked comprehension to even see that at any point between then and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:09 PM
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Sure. Don’t care for the L-word and think it’s pretty meaningless, but by the way you define it, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:07 PM
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I never said it was. That was another commenter. Nice try though. And I’ve had sex in all capacities. An LTR, FWBs, plates, threesomes, tons of ONSs... regardless of your definition, I’ve done it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:05 PM
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I’ve done it. My LTR, who I’m still with, was completely unfazed by it from the start, and I did say it pretty early. Thought to myself, “damn, this is too easy.” Found out years later she comes from quite a bit of money. And now I get why she so easily acquiesced to that request. In any case, I’m fine with that as it makes my life easier regardless.
/r/askTRP05/07/20 03:02 PM
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Do you know what incel means? Involuntarily celibate. I haven’t gone without sex longer than a month for 4 years. You really have no idea who you’re talking to this is a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:58 PM
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Lmao. “I’ve read enough of your writing before” “I’ve talked to nervous incels like you before” pick one. You’ve either read what I’ve written or think I’m an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:54 PM
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I’ve written for one of the 3 biggest newspapers in America numerous times as a featured guest writer. If you want to pretend to have some vast vocabulary other people are incapable of, you’re talking to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:47 PM
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There is no psychological basis to what you said whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:45 PM
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Are you an idiot? I made 0 assertive claims throughout any of this except that needlessly insulting someone with differing views from you is a bad look. And now you’re needlessly insulting a random 3rd party. The irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:42 PM
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That part is fair. I didn’t care for that particular wording myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:56 AM
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Ah, missed that. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:54 AM
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Alright hurling more insults. Glad you’re so understanding that others could possibly have a different opinion. “Be like me or you’re wrong” GL with that mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:28 AM
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Not everyone who disagrees is emotionally empty. Calling them such just reflects negatively on you. And this is from someone who half agrees with both sides here. There’s just no need to hurl an insult just because someone disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 01:08 AM
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Lmao. Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:51 PM
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Because lots of men who talk about women also don’t know what they’re talking about. Most of these men haven’t even met a single woman like this
/r/askTRP04/07/20 03:54 PM
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I am a simp because I think some women are better than others? Y’all are clowns Check back in when your LTR sets up threesomes for you, has a cool mill at 22, and looks the other way while you fuck 25 other girls while with her lmfao. Oh but I guess every single girl offers that to the table and they’re all equal. How could I forget. I guess I’ll just stop having standards since everything with a vagina is the same. 0 experience
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:45 PM
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“Other dumb people” lol ok bud. We’ve got the bastion of intelligence over here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:04 AM
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My longest dry spell since I started having sex 4 years ago is a month. GUARANTEE you cannot say the same. You say “oh teehee your unicorn sucked a dick before” like it’s supposed to surprise me women have sex. You have no clue what you’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 05:02 AM
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Literal zero experience with women rhetoric. A good woman mirrors you. If you lead, she follows. If you lead well, things go well. (If you lead poorly, things can still go poorly). Many women are drug addicts. Massive whores. Fuck, even child abusers, rapists, and murderers on the extreme end. You can be Chad Thundercock’s big brother Mike Thunderdick with a billion in the bank, 6’10”, 12 pack, combination NFL/NBA athlete and it doesn’t matter. The woman sucks. Thinking you’re the only thing tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:35 AM
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Ah yes because no women are capable of having good qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:22 AM
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Not every woman is salvageable. What do you call the ones who are?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 04:04 AM
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I do appreciate the mindsets of those times and think they’re superior to nowadays. They’re just incredibly selfish. So I’m completely content to return the favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:32 AM
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Good women aren’t unicorns. There’s a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:30 AM
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Yeah it’s really not the worst. Thought it was when I was younger, but it’s really not
/r/askTRP04/07/20 03:30 AM
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I lived in one of the biggest/best college towns in America the last 4 years. If women looked good with make-up anywhere, it’d be there. They do not. Many men think my LTR doesn’t wear make-up. It isn’t true. If she wore fake eyelashes she wouldn’t need make-up, but that kind of defeats the point. Women max out around HB6 while truly wearing no make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:28 AM
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I lived in one of America’s biggest college towns for the past 4 years. In between moving to start a job rn. No women there were attractive without make-up. Maxed out at HB6. Could not name a single one better than that. You probably just can’t tell they’re actually wearing make-up. People think my LTR doesn’t wear make-up. She most certainly does. If she gets fake eyelashes she can get away with no make-up, but that kind of defeats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:26 AM
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Great. Glad you’ve got it all figured out. I’ll enjoy continuing to live my life as much as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:22 AM
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Compared to other things that have happened? It was not. We’ve had genocides kill hundreds of thousands of people—some killing millions. 9/11 is overblown relative to the amount of people it killed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:21 AM
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I am 22. I’m not dying from this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:19 AM
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What? I like this show. No clue if others do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:17 AM
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Not a Trump supporter. Don't really care for him. One thing I give him is he is willing to say what's on everyone's mind in regards to this disease. That it's stupid to care and we need to return to work and life. Every year 450,000 people in America alone die from heart attacks because of our awful FDA regulations. 200,000 die of stroke. And I'm supposed to give a single fuck 100,000 people WORLDWIDE--not in America--have died from Corona? Yeah, okay. We have way bigger issues. People only care…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:09 PM
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what if you spread it to an elderly person and they die??? You mean the people who created this economy that essentially privileges themselves over younger generations and utilize our taxes to enjoy lengthy retirements and vast wealth that my generation will never see because the funding will all dry up by time we're of a similar age? Yeah, can't say I feel any sympathy whatsoever. If my generation gets them all sick, fucking good. Shouldn't have charged us so much for college.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:02 PM
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Good. Give it to the boomers. They're just an obstacle to me anyways. I'm not close with anyone in that generation and they wealth hoard way too much. The more of them that get it and are forced out of this world and economy, the better it is for me. They don't give a fuck about sharing their wealth with me, so I don't give a fuck about protecting their health either. Sucks when power suddenly shifts, huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:59 PM
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I used to hook up with women all the time. Haven't really during COVID. Partially related, partially unrelated. If I was still in the hook-up phase of my life, I imagine I still would. I'm in sales and I think of it in sales terms. Coronavirus is the ultimate objection to shut down most sales from all but the most experienced salesmen. My company? We're crushing sales quotes and expanding even amidst this pandemic. Chads are just like that. So many people off the market because of coronavirus an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:57 PM
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Less makeup is better, none is best No it isn't. If you can't tell a beautiful woman is wearing make-up, it's not that she has none on. She has minimal on, and she's naturally attractive. Literally 0 women beyond perhaps Adriana Lima are hot without make-up. (Do google that tho because it's truly incredible)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:54 PM
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Please get some more experience and report back. Don't make us look like shit. This is blatantly false information. Some women are shitheads, and some men are shitheads. A "good woman" will still cheat on a beta/shitty BF, but really, who could blame her? Doesn't mean there's no good women who are worth having in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:53 PM
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Appearance is obviously number one. If she's not where I want to be appearance-wise, I won't even look her way enough to notice her. From there I like a laid back demeanor. A "chiller." Laughs, good sense of humor. Easy to talk to without feeling like I'm going to get judged for making a joke. Also, off the bat, prefer a lack of attention-seeking behavior. I don't want to hear her talking to other women about any combination of "omg men are so terrible! my dates are all so bad!" or "I just need …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:51 PM
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I really like this show and did like it even pre-dating my exposure to TRP and the like. I second this recommendation. Upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:43 PM
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Your looks are a part of how you make women feel. This is just re-hashing wordplay and debating semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:42 PM
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Yeah, pretty much. Beyond a certain age you’re kinda weird if you even talk about it. Even when you’re young, nobody really wants to hear it. These days my life is mostly about maintaining my LTR and stacking that paper (plus the gym obviously) and lemme tell you... it’s much more fulfilling
/r/askTRP03/07/20 03:19 PM
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It’s not like that. I’m focusing on things more useful to me again. In college I kinda took a vacation from trying in life to crush pussy, but now I want to be wealthy
/r/askTRP03/07/20 03:15 PM
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Already answered. Scroll up
/r/askTRP03/07/20 03:13 PM
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TRP isn’t lone wolf. I am. I don’t feel the need for any more than the few close friends I have. And I don’t spend much time with Tinder thots. One night every couple weeks isn’t a boatload of time.
/r/askTRP03/07/20 03:13 PM
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This literally reads like a troll post of someone doing an experiment to see what our opinions are. If this is real you know nothing about TRP. Read up Edit: read post history. Yeah you do not belong here.
/r/askTRP03/07/20 06:33 AM
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Quit LARPing
/r/askTRP03/07/20 06:30 AM
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Agreed. Neither myself nor my LTR even have social media. Best way to do it imo. The reactions she gets as an attractive girl when this is revealed to people are hilarious. It'll be like: Other girl: "You seem cool! What's your Instagram?" Her: "Actually I don't have that" Other girl: "Oh... um..." (silence as she tries to compute something that conflicts with her worldview that all attractive women nowadays seek validation online)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 12:35 AM
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Facts. I even have an LTR who's okay with it if I fuck randoms. Used to take advantage of it--nowadays, not so appealing. Haven't hooked up with a new girl in a year just out of lack of desire.
/r/askTRP03/07/20 12:33 AM
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I'm not sure how many people are genuinely surprised by this. I really think most people are just in denial but deep down know the truth. I mean, how could you not? Look around. People who are good looking have better lives. People in wealthier areas are better looking. It isn't too hard to see. You'll never see a beautiful women living in a ghetto. Unless she's just completely and utterly broken (does happen) but 'the wall' tends to come a few years sooner for that type.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 09:51 PM
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“happy” Love the quotes. Posting about your relationship on social media a ton, to me, just makes it look like the couple is insecure and/or trying to brag (also a sign of insecurity)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 09:48 PM
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Well in my case, neither of us really have or use social media. She uses an anonymous FB for marketplace, and I use Reddit and very occasionally lurk IG to check up on old friends. Works pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 09:47 PM
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I mean I feel that. By chance, are you young? This sounds a lot like me when I was younger. I've had like 20 ONSs and my n-count is like 25. Only recently did I kind of flip the script mentally and let go of my internal opposition to the way the world works. Now I just enjoy it and accept it as it is. I'm turning 23 soon and it really only occurred the last year or so. But it's definitely helped me a lot as a person.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 09:45 PM
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Wrong mindset to have. I (subconsciously) tend to think there's something wrong with a girl if she does not sleep with me, lol, rather than if she does. Because if you're high value, that is literally supposed to mean women want to sleep with you. If a particular woman does not, it means she does not realize you're high value (truthfully it doesn't--she could have a valid reason, but this is how it feels anyways) so therefore, unlike other girls who are picking up on that value, she must be defe…
/r/askTRP02/07/20 08:13 PM
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Time management. Plus, at that time, I was probably only seeing her 4x per week. Week looked like... weekdays during the day: go to college classes. At night: go to the gym. Later at night: hit her up to hang out and bang. Weekends looked like... study much of the day. Go out at night. Hit up girl to come fuck me at night. Sometimes to party with me, then fuck me. I was picking up other girls during college too. I fit that in by exclusively messaging them on dating apps during bathroom breaks an…
/r/askTRP02/07/20 08:10 PM
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It's tough to answer such a general question since a woman can be high quality in all sorts of ways. And what I consider high quality for a plate/FWB is different from an LTR. Generally speaking, being interesting, laid-back, hot, and not crazy (reasonable n-count, no tattoos or crazy piercings, no ex BF that I think may shoot me, etc) is a good starting point. Other factors can increase quality but are probably more individualized to me... for example I love funny women--which is a rarity, espe…
/r/askTRP02/07/20 08:04 PM
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Either low quality women or what you said. I used to think like this, but then I actually started to give a fuck about what the women I associated with were like as people. Turns out, self-fulfilling prophecies are a real thing.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 06:33 PM
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Sign me up
/r/askTRP02/07/20 06:32 PM
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Meet higher quality women. Sure plenty are like this. Plenty are not.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 06:31 PM
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Um, no. Even though my sex drive has tapered off for my LTR (we still fuck 4-5x per week at my choice, but earlier on, I used to fuck her 10+ times per week) I still really like hanging out. We do lots of fun stuff. Contrary to many without experience with women, I think they can make great companions. I do tons of things with my LTR.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 06:29 PM
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Lots of women are like this. Why do you want to see a pic of one such example?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:25 PM
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Exactly. I have an LTR and have for a few years now, but we have a direction. There’s goals and a reason to stay together. She’s vetted and we work well enough together that a family unit of myself and her will likely thrive. But that’s not the case in all relationships. Lots of people just seem lonely. Imo, not a good reason to date. Others also claim they’re like this, but rush through each step and plan to get married after 10 months. What was the point of even dating if you already decided y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 03:43 PM
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That's fair. Good point then.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 12:53 PM
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Agreed and well said. I don't think I would have swiped right on my LTR, and if I did, I would have put in low effort. Partially because we met when she was lower SMV, but even if I met her now, she's not as photogenic as the way she looks in real life. Simultaneously if she ever had online dating I don't think she would have swiped right on me either. I match with very few girls of an SMV that high. I would have been in a sea of equal and higher SMV men spamming her inbox, tough to find. Meanwh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 12:11 PM
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because you don't have much of those for now Assuming the OP is true (and I do try to give people the benefit of the doubt) I wouldn't call 30 notches 'not having much of those.' Is it the highest number ever? No. Is it a small count? Definitely not.
/r/askTRP02/07/20 12:00 PM
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I cared about it when I considered my count small. From 0-20 I gave a lot of fucks. Hit 20 around 20 y/o and since have slowed down a shit ton. At 25ish and nearing 23 now. At a certain point it means nothing. I'll bang a hottie if I get the chance. Otherwise I'm fine with what I've got now. There's really no point in growing a notch count that's already more than most people I ever get. My insecurities are gone, and really, so is my motivation for it. Some people just like it and pursue it for …
/r/askTRP02/07/20 11:57 AM
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This is acting like you can define and clearly label incels. That's like saying "what portion of Red Pilled men end up becoming Chad." Truth is, people who have digested those materials--incel or TRP--and agreed to varying degrees exist along a spectrum. At one point of my life I was damn-near close to being an incel (but hadn't found any of this manosphere shit at the time) and yet, really, I was just a young kid who hadn't blossomed yet. Somebody like me who thinks they're an incel? I'd think …
/r/askTRP02/07/20 11:54 AM
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To me I like to treat women in line with my level of commitment to them, since it's unfair to essentially privilege casual girls and randoms over someone who seriously invests in me over time. For that reason I will do this kind of thing for my LTR now and then. Not as a rule, but now and then. On the other hand, I have literally never paid for a first date unless you count sharing some of my alcohol that I bought with them. From my estimations it never had a negative effect on my dating life. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:47 AM
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Firstly consider that there's little on the topic of compelling you to date because most people inherently want to do so. Therefore there's not much audience to write that content to persuade, therefore nobody writes it. Disclaimer: the way things are headed, that may change sooner rather than later. Secondly people date for vast reasons, many of them bad, some of them good. Personally I date because unlike you I do plan to have a family and kids some day. And what is the best way to do that? Tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:43 AM
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Thank you for your moral authority and your vast knowledge of the preferences of people who you have never met
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 10:57 PM
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It doesn't need to be high value men, that's what this sub doesn't understand. It's men that make them feel better about themselves. So, you think women want betas. Nothing feels better to a woman than being with a man other women couldn't get. That's an ego builder. That makes them feel good. Not compliments from a guy who compliments every woman. Compliments from a guy who compliments zero women >>>>>>. Could be a garbage man This is fucking laughable. Find me a garbage man dating a beautiful …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 07:47 PM
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Highly intelligent response
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:59 PM
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And that the first guy that comes along and makes her feel worthy, is gonna make her leave. You don't really understand how life for hot women works. She's been hit on by all kinds of high value men. But whatever you want to think. You already made up your mind. She had a BF in HS and left him because he cheated on her because she wouldn't put out. He was high value too. College baseball player now. Not being in love with the idea and vehemently opposing it but tolerating it are radically differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:19 PM
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Our whole point on this Earth is to reproduce. We were wired to do so. If we don't, our genetic line dies. We would never be programmed to allow our lineage to just die. That makes zero sense. "If you truly believe that then you would realize meeting everyone's needs keeps the populace peaceful" I don't send money to Africa to feed the hungry either. It's not my job to sacrifice so that others can thrive. At the same time, I do try to educate people on how they can achieve what they want. In oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:05 PM
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Well it's hard to add the correct nuance over internet and without you knowing me. She wasn't always hot. When I met her, she was chubby. But she always had a good personality. At my college, pretty much everyone was rich. At least compared to my background. If I dated anyone from college, they would have been rich. Her best friend's dad is worth like 50 mill. She is not from anywhere near anything like that kind of money. She was lower tier in wealth at my school. She did complain about the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:00 PM
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My bad then. It kind of sounded like one. Lol. Tone is really hard to pick up online, understandably
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 05:47 PM
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I didn’t join a side. You created my side by opposing me. You made the “two sides” to begin with. What I liked was simply that you did not immediately join this other new side. But to think you are above joining sides is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:21 PM
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I guess I just don’t know anything since I’ve only been in an LTR with a girl for 4 years who’s in the top 2% of looks top 1% of intelligence top 0.5% of inherited wealth and who never bitches or complains like many women do. All after being a kissless virgin until 19, learning this shit, then using it to hook up with girls until I found the best one. But I guess I literally know nothing. I’ll need to go back to the drawing board. Need to get into the top 0.01% until I can speak on the topic. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:18 PM
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Um, no? The fuck? I am in favor of capitalism, not socialism. If I spend a ton of effort getting in shape, making bank, learning game, why would I want to mandatorily share with some loser neckbeard who only has himself to blame? I do not believe in equality of outcome. I believe in working to get what you want, which most people refuse to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:14 PM
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Why are you viewing this black and white? You can like both. I’m in an LTR it’s not like I’m picking casual sex over dating a high quality woman. I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that men do not have a need for multiple sexual partners, and that people who can’t get that have any dating expertise whatsoever. They shouldn’t be giving advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:11 PM
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At least you have a balanced view. I always respect and appreciate people who can at least do that. Doesn’t make me agree with you, but I do like to see that in a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:08 PM
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You just don’t really get how dating works for some people. If I am single, I don’t need to pick up a new woman every night to get laid. I can have plates and FWBs too. I have sex 5+ time per week 80% of weeks even single. The 80% being just because sometimes everyone can drop at the same time, or I can get busy. But most weeks, I’m fine. I have had one relationship ever, still ongoing, because rather than having to wife up one girl before we even fucked I got to choose from the 25 I’ve banged. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:06 PM
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Imagine having never heard of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Sex is literally grouped in on the most base tier of needs in the most accepted psychological assessment of needs there is. Imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 03:57 PM
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Doubt that. Most relationships slow in sex at some point. Even if they do it doesn’t matter. Relationship sex and relationship sex only gets boring. They’re not having the highest quality sex life possible by any stretch of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 04:26 AM
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Not sure if you're a guy or a girl. I would not go for a girl going the FDS route personally but that's me. Lots of guys would tbh. And I think it's better for the girl herself to go the FDS route and make men wait, tbh. I've only been in one relationship and it started as a ONS, like I said in my other post here. So I guess I'm saying to women "my advice is better than my actions in that situation." I mean, dating is just tricky as a woman. People being willing to fuck you but not date you is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:50 PM
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I've only had one relationship myself, but I have experience with women that goes beyond that. Men want casual experience with women--pretty much all of them want that. Men who only have one relationship and one sex partner lifetime are not qualified to tell men how to date because they're not fulfilling male needs themselves. Do I think there's nothing more than getting laid? No. I'm in an LTR. Do I think it's a necessary experience, at least for a time, for any truly fulfilled man? Definitely.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:47 PM
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Reading it back, you're right in that I did not explicitly say it. However, the implication was heavy. I mentioned I've had 20 ONSs and referred to girls "wanting to date a guy like me," which by that I just meant a guy who's high value enough that women want to fuck him. The average guy can't have 20 ONSs lifetime, let alone by 22 (which again I didn't state outright that I'm young too, which was an oversight on my behalf as others do not just inherently know that). So you are right that I did …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:49 PM
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He is honestly just awkward and struggles at conversing even with men. I do recognize that height helps, but my post was just to say it's not a golden ticket like some suggest. I can also go to a bar, not make any moves, and have women approach. And I'm not 6'4" I'm just a good looking 5'9" guy. Those exist too. Edit: I always forget I'm actually 5'10". After I started lifting my spine straightened a little and I added an inch. So I'm definitely not short but not tall either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:46 PM
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Did not catch the joke. My bad. In that case, though, they're preaching something right. I don't agree with their entire ideology, but if they're saying that, then I do agree with at least that portion. There's always a grey area in things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:45 PM
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It’s not a low value strategy, it’s your best strategy. The best strategy to a low value person. Low value people pursue low value strategy. High value people do not need a strategy like that. It's unfortunate some people have to settle like that, but it is reality. I do agree that for some people they end up resorting to that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:44 PM
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Well I was not saying that it's a gold standard of truth. Again, it's not like that 5% is randomly selected. And it's not like you have the same odds of dating every single man if you bang him. In that case you should just fuck every billionaire in the world and then date him. But that just isn't what I meant, even if it's what came across.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:01 PM
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Well, it did. I am a HVM. My LTR is very hot. Women fuck me to get close to me. Women would not be doing that if I was not high value. I don't know anything about anything other than my experiences and observations. Those are centered around what women to do to get a HVM in a relationship, not to get a relationship. I think I did say as much in my post but I said it in a very passing manner, easy to miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:00 PM
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Oh, are you just saying that it isn't true 5% of ONSs lead to a relationship? If that's the case, no shit lmao. We are debating literally nothing. I listed my experience and you took it as if that was my estimation of how the world worked. That is patently not what I meant. I would not be able to estimate for you how effective having a ONS is to get a guy, other than that it is ineffective. I think we just misunderstood each other and are debating a point I don't really even believe in and never…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:58 PM
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Well, I think even what you said points out this is a low value strategy. "If that's the only way" pretty much says as much, as if there's nothing better. Now, I recognize some people need/choose to pursue low tier strategies. But it's still capable to recognize them as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:55 PM
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Uh, what? I am RP'd through and through. I've been reading that stuff since I was 16. I turn 23 in a couple months. Sorry reality does not match your expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:53 PM
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Adding a bit... I think the disconnect here is that you think I disagree with the premise of your idea rather than the specifics. Banging 10 guys per week will not get you a relationship. On the contrary, being a slut in general will. The difference, and why it is a bad strategy, is because it will get you a shitty relationship. The girls I know who date desirable men long-term and have smooth relationships--including my LTR--are not out there sleeping with mountains of men. The girls I know who…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:51 PM
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Experienced men don't care and neither do inexperienced men No idea where you got that info. Not my experience. Again, she doesn't need to do any of that? Well then she's wasting her time with those 20 ONSs if she's not doing that. If she's just banging them and never texting them again, why would she even bang them to begin with? That wouldn't get her any closer to a relationship. For it to be effective at all she'd need to be trying in some fashion, and again, that isn't a zero-time effort. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:47 PM
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A guy can be a total dork incapable of saying more than a few words to women but if he's 6'4" with a decent build he'll do just fine. One of my roommates is like this, good-looking, and making 80k out of college. Tell that to him and his n-count of 2 HB4s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:38 PM
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No but I go on AskMen which is often the same thing. I give opinions even though they often get downvoted to hell just so it isn't an echo chamber. People need to realize there's other options. It was very telling to me one time when there was a thread about "body count" there. Think 90% of them answered that they were virgins or had had 1 or 2 serious long-term GFs and that was it. Most were just virgins. These guys then turn around and try to answer relationship advice questions like they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:30 PM
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Because experienced men can tell, and those are the men she's probably after. And no, she can't. If the idea is turning a ONS into a relationship, you need time for a second date. A third date. People usually see each other once or twice per week in the beginning in my experience. Let's say an average date is 3 hours, including the sex, which is probably a low estimate at times. Let's say the average times to see someone in a week is 1.5 times. She's going to spend 45 hours per week dating diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:24 PM
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Could she though? Because the type of girl who would do that is not the type of girl men are eager to commit to. That's assuming girls would be randomly selected for relationships. She'd also need to be available for all of those guys. She could probably find time to be available for perhaps 3 at a time to see where things go. She could not simultaneously date 10 men. Nobody has time for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:14 PM
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Those don't really sound like ONSs. Somebody you knew for a month and somebody you went on 3 dates with isn't really the spirit of a ONS. If that's the case, a ONS would be any time you have sex with somebody new for the first time. In my opinion at least a ONS is somebody you either only know a tiny bit and go on a first date and bang, or someone you straight up meet while out and bang at that time. But I understand that definitions vary and are weird in this topic because a ONS isn't really a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:38 PM
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It's not that many relationships don't come out of ONSs. It's that most ONSs don't evolve into relationships. Look at me as an example. I've had like 20 ONSs. I've had one relationship. My only relationship started as a ONS. You could phrase this data in two ways, both meaning very different things: 100% of my relationships began as a ONS, or 5% of my ONSs became a relationship. What you do with that data is up to you. But what I'd say is that, to me, it clearly shows that a ONS is not a good wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:34 PM
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Again, depends where you are. The Northeast, where I'm from? People judge that (except NYC, where I can't speak for and imagine it may be different). SoCal? Yeah, I'd agree people care less. But people in a lot of the other places I've lived don't exactly respect that. I'd also add that dating a girl and not caring are two different things. Let's say it's a pretty negative weight to a girl. Then let's say that girl is what the guy considers, aside from that part, to be a great catch for him. He'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:21 PM
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Last paragraph is incredibly true. Funny part is more than anything I see in my LTR the phrase that’s something along the lines of, “if you’re dating a cool chick, either thank her dad or her ex bf” The girl I met had great inherent traits—beautiful face, consistently friendly disposition and never bitches, strong work ethic, low ego—but she’s stayed in shape being with me, learned great music, learned to talk to men much better by being around me and my friends, etc, etc. Next guy who dated her…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:59 PM
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I just meant they’re glad to meet you because they wouldn’t be getting laid otherwise. Agreed on the second part though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:05 AM
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Interesting kink. Lot of men must be glad to meet you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:37 AM
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Why would 3 brothers fuck the same girl? I meant fraternity brothers. As for why they do it, I don't know. I never really wanted to share holes with my fraternity brothers even though other guys seemed to love it... it felt kinda gay to me lmao. Dudes would all fuck the same girl in the same weekend then high five as if they didn't realize it just meant they got each others' cum on their dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:51 AM
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All the others were at zero Is this like something you seek out? That seems highly unlikely to be by chance. Also, how old are these guys? Are you a 31 y/o women seeking out 18 y/os? Don't mind if you have a kink but the logistics of those being your "stats" is just very interesting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:45 AM
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200 iq move until she ditches you once she realizes her smv. Unless she doesn't ditch you because your SMV was always that high. I've fucked plenty of girls of her SMV who I didn't meet when they were fat. But you're right in sentiment. This move is not a cheat to get a girl above your SMV. It only worked for me because we weren't a match to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:43 AM
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SMV? Take a look at her and decide for yourself. Her SMV is entirely her looks and how much you like them. RMV? That's a much longer, deeper, more detailed topic.
/r/askTRP30/06/20 12:44 AM
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For some reason they tell themselves it’s only “incels” who don’t want to wife sluts, to feel better about themselves. Yeah, my opinion is literally the opposite of that. Promiscuous men are "in the know" about who is promiscuous because we are high value and associate with like-minded people so either us or our friends probably banged you if you're a girl and promiscuous. And we're definitely not looking at every girl we bang like she's the mother of our children. Literally the opposite. It's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:55 PM
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Lmao. I can imagine. I have no idea what I'd do if my LTR showed up with something like that one day. I feel similarly about tattoos (though that's more of a personal thing) and all I can say is I'm glad my LTR is vehemently against those things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:52 PM
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I've had girls in college classes slide into my emails (yes, emails) and FB DMs. I've had cashiers give me their # just while getting food. My current LTR sat next to me in class and introduced herself and started talking. I had to invite her out the first time but she texted me to come fuck her the next day, after she just blew me that first day--I was inexperienced then so I didn't make the move to fuck but, in her words now, she "regretted that we didn't have sex" which struck me as funny bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:45 PM
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Underrated comment. Those things are extremely off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:36 PM
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Can I answer from the other side? My LTR was a 4 her senior year of high school--she was fat--and had a BF. He cheated on her and left her for a 6 because she wouldn't put out. When I met my LTR, freshman year of college, she'd lost 20 pounds because she realized losing fat could help her in the dating game, wherein, until then, she'd struggled and gotten very little attention. By the time I met her, she was still a little chubby, but much better. Probably a 5 or 6. I was a reasonably HVM so I j…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:36 PM
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Consider that, assuming you are not bi, one of these people is your own gender, and it’s hard for people to set their ego aside and uber-objectively assess people of their own gender, as well as completely understand the selection process of the opposite gender. I avert this by assuming all pairings are matched. If either partner could have gotten better, they would have. Looks are not the sole criteria of either gender, but do weigh heavily for men being judged by women, and even more heavily f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:23 PM
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A. We’ve been together 4 years. Don’t believe in marriage but we’re moving in together soon. It’s not exactly a passing fling. B. I think that _____pilled people do have traits that society generally doesn’t by virtue of a selection bias, but I don’t think that preference is one. Most guys from my HS joked about promiscuous women in our HS being trashy. All those guys I’m still in contact with still make those same jokes (conservative area so no liberal “don’t slut shame!” blowback) Most guys I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:13 PM
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Is it actually surprising to you that future top pro athletes have women who like them? Please re-read all of the TRP comment you can
/r/askTRP29/06/20 09:07 PM
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22 y/o. 25ish n-count. Accrued most of it in 2-year span (lost v-card at 19). In an LTR now with occasional threesomes (n-count grows much slower now and none at all during corona) ​ White, but disclaimer I am 5'9" Almost all white and a couple Asian. Can't recall any other races off the top of my head. Certainly no black women (I actually find them attractive tho). My college was very racially homogenous tho so it's not like I even had access to other races really. Women who look similar to me …
/r/askTRP29/06/20 08:56 PM
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If you’re not looking in sororities, yes The only reason people think they’re not is because these attractive non-promiscuous girls are taken by HVM and “dress down” in public to avoid attention. My LTR walks around looking like a HB6 at work and day-to-day. Every time she sees me she’s a HB8 with make-up and nicer clothes on. If she was single, she’d be a HB8 every day. HB8-type girls who are perpetually single are promiscuous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:29 PM
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Dunno about that one. Most dudes I know generally like less promiscuous women and would prefer not to date a promiscuous one. And promiscuous men clearly have options, so why would they settle with a promiscuous girl? My count is 25 and my LTR’s is 3. We’re 22
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:10 PM
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Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 05:33 PM
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Nah, "TheGirlGetter25" has a little less ring to it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 03:08 PM
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Why would it ever be better to be worse? This shit never makes sense Forget its name, maybe Murphy’s Law? But the simplest explanation is also the most likely. Being more attractive being better has more weight than being less attractive being better because it’s more complex and requires more to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:52 PM
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About 25 women, I’m a 22 y/o male. I was in a frat. I don’t expect my n-count to grow much anymore though. I have an LTR and I consider her pretty high tier
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:50 PM
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“Why would a woman chase an unattractive man” Well maybe if he hits on her she’ll get a gang of her friends and they’ll all chase him with pitchforks
/r/askTRP29/06/20 02:48 PM
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I was 16 and a kissless virgin, which I remained until 18 (college). Today I am 22, have been in a relationship with a really hot girl who accepts me fucking other chicks since 19, racked up n-count of 25ish, and rather than feeling awkward around women I feel zero anxiety and internally feel like I can get most women if I really try. Mostly TRP enabled me to unlock the innate alpha qualities inside me at birth. I felt a pull to be “RP” always but was taught that wasn’t okay. I believed it. TRP …
/r/askTRP29/06/20 02:46 PM
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Money doesn't matter. I grew up poor and now am in an LTR with a woman for 3 years who has a million in her bank (rich parents). We're 22. I earn solid and went to a top college but nothing like her money. And I have a lot of access to her money. If money determines whether a man is high value, how the fuck did I manage to do what I'm doing? Simps think they need to earn money to impress people. High value men realize people will essentially pay for their company, just because they're high value…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 05:13 AM
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"If she goes over her ideal weight by 10 pounds no sex until she's back within her ideal range" You shouldn't need to use that heavy-handed of tactics. I met my LTR and she was a little chubby but had high interest in me. I told her, in "real life" terms, that if she ever wanted to progress past being my plate then she needed to cut 20 pounds. It was gone in 6 weeks, transforming her from a HB5 to a HB8. My wish was her command. No need to heavy-hand her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 05:06 AM
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I'm not earning 100k yet because I just graduated college but I went to a top school, am in shape, make pretty good $ out of college, my LTR is a millionaire at 22 (parents' money), n-count high points are 4 girls in a week and 12 in 3 months... not the biggest Chad but I'm firmly in the top 5%, speaking objectively. My standards: - Top 10% in appearance or what I consider HB7 and above only for LTR. I prefer blonde chicks or tanner/darker chicks but that's negotiable - Must be top 10% in intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 05:03 AM
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My number is 25 but I was only sexually active for 2 years really (lost virginity at 19, stopped fucking other chicks in my LTR with high quality chick at 21, am 22, if I stayed single I'd easily hit 100 by 30 because I was doing this all while managing an LTR too which lowered my time by a lot) and I'm somewhat young. Do I count? Lol. In any case it was just volume and not even how you think combined with solid SMV and a quick-thinking brain. I'm the wittiest person most people know and I'm rea…
/r/askTRP29/06/20 04:44 AM
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Is this ban expected to wipe out both TRP and AskTRP? Or just TRP?
/r/askTRP29/06/20 04:32 AM
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But how would it effect their perceived self worth when it has no effect whatsoever on their self worth? If anything make-up just makes them feel insecure because they still have to see themselves in the mirror every day with none on
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 12:54 AM
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Positive sign but next time really look at it. You could potentially tell that way. Eyes following you or focusing on you a bit is a good sign
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 04:03 PM
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They're also so, so, soooo much more comfortable attacking individual girls than they are girls as a group. "I dislike slutty girls" = girls respond "Woahhhh!!! Women have a right to do with their body what they want!" But "Kylie is so broken and I wonder if a man will ever take her seriously" gets the response,"Ommmmgggggg I know right! I just don't get girls like that! I could never do that!" It's not even that they're necessarily lying when they say they couldn't be like the super 'slutty' gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 12:09 PM
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Ah, you're European. That probably changes things a bit comparing our perspectives on feminists. I was in a very liberal college town. Our "feminists" are not your "feminists." Our feminists are... yeah, I won't go there. Lol. They're like a walking meme. Having empathy for it is a good way to view it though, but that can be beyond my capabilities at times lol. Rather avoid those types personally it's usually the ones who are really flirty with most guys who have the highest n-count imo. Overly …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 12:03 PM
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Their attractiveness relative to men is their attractiveness relative to women. If there were no thin women, there would not be zero women that men found attractive. Think about it. 10,000 years ago every single woman would be a 3 by today's standards because of awful hygiene and poor diet. Was every girl treated like a 3? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 11:50 AM
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crazy went up with a girl’s attractiveness. Also, they usually have shittier attitudes and treat people worse. You met the wrong people, or they thought you were interested and wanted to chase you away. In my experience attractive women are nicer on average because the world treats them better so they have more to be happy about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 11:47 AM
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I love finding people who can actually converse about these topics. They're out there in these communities, and they're often the ones writing the content that is actually digested by the many, but damn oh damn do we feel like the few at times. I think largely because people outgrow these places when they do start getting better at the whole "game" thing. At that point conversing with people who are still at square one just seems frustrating a lot of the time. And believe me, there ARE girls who…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 11:41 AM
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When you do something with little money, personality and the ability to hold a conversation replace the money for a meal. And it's so rare to see a man being able to present himself instead of having his money do it. Something about this struck a bit of a lightbulb for me. Really, women want a good time. Most men cannot provide that without money. If you can provide that without money, the money becomes far less important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 11:19 AM
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Saying that every girls is a slut and has already sucked 30+ dicks is the ultimate blue pill cope just like saying that girls don't desire Chads is. I think a lot of it is like a reverse projection almost. Many of these guys have so little sex that they catch little glimpses and overhear little snippets or get their first taste of real sex and think: "Woahhhh, these girls do it so much more than I do! They're, like, fucking at least 50 dudes I think." Even as someone who leans far to the TRP sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 10:55 AM
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But where would the looksmatch imperative even come from They don't consciously think "I want someone exactly as attractive as me!" But do you see the hottest women with average guys? No? Then clearly they're selecting for people at least in their "league." My LTR is more attractive than I am by a slim margin but that being the case doesn't change that her "league" is smaller than an uglier girl's league. A higher percentage of men just have no chance with her than if she was just average. An av…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 09:13 AM
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Actually if you read my stand-alone comment in this thread you'll see that I disagree with the idea proposed in this thread entirely. I think more attractive women are less likely to be single. I agreed only with what I commented on. I think more attractive women have lower n-counts. I think they pair up more often and have lower n-counts in part because they have less options. They also can lock down the options they do get more easily. The men they're aiming for have less looksmatch options to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 07:32 AM
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Women need to strip off their makeup to come to terms with how attractive (or unattractive) they actually are. No, they don't. If every woman had no make-up, the scale would have the same distribution still. Attractiveness would just be shifted downwards in an objective sense but nobody would even know the difference unless some women started to wear make-up and got a boost that was unavailable to other women. Since all women wear make-up, it's an even playing field. Think of it like steroids an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 05:27 AM
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The data is out there somewhere, and the sentiment logically follows from what he said. Hot women have fewer options better than them. For every 1% of people you're better than, that's 1% less of people who are better than you. The ugliest girl in the world has 3.5 billion options of men who are better than her. The hottest girl in the world has 1 man who is theoretically her match. Selling yourself for the right value becomes increasingly difficult as more and more people fail to meet the crite…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 05:20 AM
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No problem.
/r/askTRP28/06/20 05:13 AM
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I'd disagree with this trend. All of the hottest girls I know have BFs. Off the top of my head, hottest girls I know: Dating MLB player Dating college football player Dating a zero IQ idiot with a shit job who was cool in HS Chronically single slut but she's mega-rich (9 figure family money) so I think she has daddy issues Dating a frat brother of mine My own LTR Dating another frat brother of mine Has had the same BF since HS Another slut Has had a few different relationships of a couple years …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 05:10 AM
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It doesn't really make a difference in your life. This is like debating if we think ignorance is bliss. I'd rather understand how the world works and the 'why' in why I do well because I just skew intellectual like that, but really, it makes no practical difference. It's better to be Alpha. Period. The reason you're Alpha is much less important.
/r/askTRP28/06/20 05:04 AM
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You're looking at it wrong (but in a different way as men who say hot women get approached less are looking at it wrong too). In normal day-to-day life the average guy doesn't have near the confidence needed to hit on a hot ass bitch. Therefore they don't. So in that way hot women get hit on less in day-to-day life. But who does hit on them? Chad. And Chad doesn't waste time on sub-par girls in daily life. So maybe 10 Chads approach a hot ass girl all year but they're all good options and she ch…
/r/askTRP28/06/20 05:01 AM
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The first step is understanding most girls won't fit your standards (if they're high enough, and yours seem like they'd be decent based off this post) The second step is understanding that this means you may be waiting a while. You can increase your odds by being in places these girls might be. Just think like a girl you'd like: where would she be? Is she in a bar at 1AM? Probably not. Is she mostly in places you wouldn't find her? Probably that one. The third step is recognizing that, if you do…
/r/askTRP28/06/20 04:57 AM
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> most men that I know don't find the red pill/pua communities to get laid with as many women as possible. They find it because the want a "blue pill" dream - A nice girl who hasn't had that many partners, hasn't been a part of the hook-up community, raise a family, have children. This is so much more accurate than most TRPers would ever admit. Hell, I was in denial myself. When I was less confident and desirable I hooked up with a ton of girls despite having an LTR-ready nice girl around. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 04:24 AM
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What's your eye contact like? If he's decently confident he'll want to hold it with you if he's attracted/interested. But even if he is, that doesn't guarantee he wants anything out of it. You could always just state your interest and see what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 04:16 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the penis has estrogen receptors and vaginas literally intake sperm and other fluids from men. To me that seems like a rather clear indication that the body is attempting to identify individuals during sex, or at the very least has a clear means to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 04:13 AM
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Love the harsh truth here lol and I know what you mean. Rich people can still die via helicopter crash or disease, but it’s still a massive advantage for a long life
/r/askTRP27/06/20 05:00 PM
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Well obviously. But factors beyond appearance weigh in. It’s not likely if you LTR the hottest girl you can that it’ll work out
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 09:09 AM
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Literally whenever I want. That equates to maybe 5x per week. It was more earlier in the relationship but it’s fine now too
/r/askTRP27/06/20 12:50 AM
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Eh, you explicitly ruled out changing appearance. The thing is, for an opinion on someone to change, their value likely needs to change. Women’s only real sexual value is their appearance. For the record I had completely 100% relegated my LTR to fuck piece status originally. Then she lost 20 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 12:44 AM
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Um, what? Lmao. Most of what I said isn’t my opinion it’s other men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:44 PM
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It’s really just preference and either can be better. I think looksmatch is technically best but I guess that’s cheating the question. Because human appearance interests me I’ve actually somewhat reliably calculated mine and my LTR’s objectively. She’s roughly the top 1-5% and I’m roughly a 5-10%er. So technically she’s better but it isn’t by a real noticeable amount. For me I like that. She feels like a trophy (in a good way, her personality doesn’t blow) and I don’t feel a ton of need to repla…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:40 PM
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Because you’re reading what I said about men as being about me. I don’t personally care because I’m already in an LTR and she’s low-N so I don’t even think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:28 PM
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I mean there’s always another situation to describe. Everyone has a different experience. There’s too many to list them. But yes agreed those people exist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:27 PM
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I’ve looked like shit, had good game, and gotten laid. I’ve looked great, had bad game, and didn’t get laid. I’ve looked great, had good game, and ran through a dozen chicks in 2 months. Personality definitely matters
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:20 PM
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“Fucks 50 women a year at or above his SMV” It’s extremely rare for men to fuck above their SMV. Unless you think SMV is 100% appearance (it isn’t)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:16 PM
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I can’t give you proof. You need to live your life, then decide for yourself. It’s not a provable concept except largely by observation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:11 PM
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Your point kind of misses itself relative to what I said. Yes, women equate sex with love more than men do. Correct. That is why men expect women to equate sex and love as well, which is why they’re averse to alternatives. Also, who are these “fat Megan Fox” chicks. I don’t bang fat girls lol. But I have certainly fucked girls I don’t give a shit about. I’m okay with being a hypocrite though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:09 PM
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Men can only have as many standards as they have options, and they only act on those standards according to their desire. So the question is: is men’s desire to be in a family strong enough to override their aversion to sluts? Yes and no. For some, it will mean they don’t marry or have kids in a 2-parent household. For some, it will mean settling. For some, it will mean being desirable or lucky enough to land someone they truly want. This is why marriage rates are declining, but marriage still e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:06 PM
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After sex I really feel nothing lol. My LTR gets really cuddly and clingy so I indulge her. But it just takes away all sexual urges and thoughts and I mostly just feel blank.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:51 PM
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“How little getting banged by some hot frat guy means to us at the end of the day” Well... that’s kind of the problem. Women not associating sex and “love” turns men off and makes them bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:42 PM
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You don’t need to date/marry the most beautiful of every woman you ever meet. Frankly I don’t really care that a small subset of women are “more attractive” than my LTR (though it’d motivate me if we broke up to do even better). But I suppose this gets more apparent the lower you go on the totem pole. If I was a chunker with another chunker, I could imagine feeling like I settled while better options existed I suppose. Depends on your perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 07:40 PM
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Casual sex because I love new pussy. And my LTR is very hot and great at sex. No idea how other men pick relationship sex tbh. The best sex in my relationship is threesomes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 02:42 PM
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“What is the difference besides height” Please stop with this. I need to get a PSA going that height is probably the most overrated trait to men when thinking of their own looks. It’d be like if VS models thought nobody would like them bc their boobs are small
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 02:33 PM
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This. All girls I know who at least seem to have low n-counts have gotten drunk and fucked at least a couple Chads. If 80% of women fuck a guy in the top 10%, it doesn’t take many women fucking more than one ‘Chad’ before Chad’s count can easily hit some high digits. (I said 10% because I don’t think people realize a top 20% male isn’t special)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 02:28 PM
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I’ve never lived in a metro like NYC or LA so I can’t confidently say. Based off what I’ve heard and gleaned from my visits tho NYC is the easiest place to get casual sex of anywhere and LA, imo, seems extremely difficult without exorbitant status. The South will definitely have less good looking men tho. Atlanta from what I hear is heavy on pre-established social scenes that are tough to break into. Charlotte/Nashville is a lot of 22-30 y/o transplants that go out. Florida also seems like a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 02:23 PM
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These are all things I am aware of
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:53 AM
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I don’t need my matches to validate my attractiveness. Doing just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 02:44 AM
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Well no. I am swiping on 4s and better. I just only message ones I find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:26 AM
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Hey here's a thought. If you can get her while she's taken, she's not fucking LTR material. Literally what are you thinking here?
/r/askTRP16/06/20 11:06 PM
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Because men are the pursuers. It will always be covetable to be the pursued rather than the pursuer. Online mediums are hookup-centric too, which means that it's a "man's game." Aka all the pursuers want a chunk of the action. Not all of the pursued do. The result is a landscape drastically favoring women over men.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 10:14 PM
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I think most men mean "noticeable amounts of make-up" versus "non-noticeable amounts of make-up" rather than "make-up" versus "not make-up." The thing is, my mom works in the cosmetics industry, so I've been familiar with this stuff since I was a kid. Most guys are not like me. They have no idea what they're talking about. This question is somewhat like saying, "Why do women say that steroids are bad, but they find John Cena attractive?" Even applies because women, when they express opinions aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 10:08 PM
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Guide to banging chicks: Initial contact is on you. I can't tell you where/how to meet a girl. But meet a girl and get her #. Get her # even if it's a dating app. (Don't get her # if it's a bar--get her home). From here send a couple texts. Not going to include examples of how to flirt/banter just google it like everyone else. Send this text: "ive got a spare bottle of wine from _____ (made up event). do you like wine?" when she says yes because every girl likes wine, go buy a $3 bottle of red w…
/r/askTRP16/06/20 09:56 PM
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There's nothing we can tell you to make you more comfortable in a situation you're uncomfortable in. If you want to become comfortable in a situation and currently are not, consistent exposure is the only remedy possible. Oh, or pop a couple pills of molly. There's that option too
/r/askTRP16/06/20 09:52 PM
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Sidenote but great to see someone call the girl in their post a HB6. Finally someone who's realistic/believable. Anyways I can kind of feel you on what you're saying. My LTR can lean a little towards being "too easy" for me at times. Yes it can be a bit off-putting but really you need to value that. Realize that not everything is an act and it is in fact a little glimpse into their mind. A girl showing these kinds of signs is much better for you long-term and it stands a much better chance to wo…
/r/askTRP16/06/20 09:48 PM
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Marriage sucks. Don't do that one. Fuck the people who try to push you down a shitty road just because 1) they did it or 2) they don't understand times changed. But if you want an LTR to have kids with (most people do) you're not on a dwindling clock quite yet but your days are numbered. While many RP men say "settle in your mid-30s when your value is highest," the problem with that is that you're honestly a shitty parent at that age. My parents were that age and they were just old. They couldn'…
/r/askTRP16/06/20 09:46 PM
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Gotcha lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:42 PM
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I bang like 85% of women I meet on Tinder on the first date. I've never had a second date with a girl I first met on Tinder tho lmao. About 15 lays. Some were my choice--some were theirs. One was a particularly big L because she was such a babe I told my friends a fake account agreed to meet up with me lmao. Tinder women are really just there for a quick bang. I usually plate girls I meet from other places.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 09:39 PM
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At least the woman can extract money from a rich man if she does it. I mean, it's a terrible thing to do and pretty evil. But it's not as much of a guaranteed failure (for the person causing the pregnancy) as a man sabotaging his own condom lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:34 PM
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Dunno. I guess it could be something similar to venting. But really I think it's more of a warning because "other men don't know." When tons of men disagree, it only reinforces "other men don't know" and makes them think "I need to preach this more so that they DO know." They're likely simultaneously angry that people "don't know" which could be where the venting ties it all together I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:31 PM
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Not sure what a man would gain by doing that, unless he just wants the woman to be his wifey and raise his kids. I guess men do that--I have no idea as it sounds like the last thing I would ever want to do and a truly terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:29 PM
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"Baby trap" lol men do stealthing. This happens. I'm sorry I don't really know what this means. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:19 PM
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Well I don't really have any concrete support. I know that's why I used to be that way. That's about the best I can do. I just have a hard time grasping why it would be to express fear and hurt. I equate that to venting. While I do think venting does happen online, I just don't see it as a primary motivator to post things online (or say them irl if you've seen it leak over to there at all). Maybe it's part of an equation that'd give us "the reason as to why men post these things" but I just can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:18 PM
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Mike will punch whoever that link takes me to see in the face and knock him the fuck out. He doesn't give a fuck. Mike Tyson has probably had sex with more women than you will ever even meet. And yes he's 5'10" If you're insecure about being 5'10", you have got issues. I really mean that. I know 5'5" guys who do well with women. You've practically got a half foot on them.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 09:11 PM
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I don't think I'd necessarily say I agree that I offer more or anything. I do think I have more to lose. She pretty much just loses time, but during that time, she's still being hit on consistently by other men. She's got options. May even know some potential replacements if shit goes south. If I leave her for another woman, she only has lost time--and if we're married or have a kid, she's lost time but made money. Meanwhile, for me: - If it turns out she sucks, I too have lost time (which is le…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:08 PM
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Efective virtue signaling requires you to be different than the norm I must be a master virtue signaler lmao. I grew up in an extremely conservative area as a staunch Bernie supporter. Went to one of the 5-most liberal universities (estimating but it's liberal as fuck) and became a right winger. Lemme SWIM in that virtue signaling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:01 PM
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FDS women will walk you around like a dog in leash given the chance. Then don't give them the chance. You don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:59 PM
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> Do men who express often inaccurate talking points like “courts always let women take half your stuff” do so because they do not have other outlets for expressing emotions like fear and hurt? Definitely not that reason. I can't talk to this particular point you think is very important but the concept of what you described--repeating certain 'facts' they've overheard in the manosphere again and again (facts that are incorrect)--is, in my opinion, just because they believe it, feel lied to, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:54 PM
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Nope. 5'9". Don't buy into that height is everything shit. Yes if you are 5' tall you're fucked. 98% of men are a height that is salvageable.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 08:47 PM
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If you can’t imagine any other reason more weighty that skin-deep looks that can affect sex frequency Um what. The last sentence of my last response: SMV is more than skin-deep. Not really sure how to continue from there lol SMV is influenced by looks but =/= looks. There's lots of ways to be low SMV. For example, a very hot guy who literally had Autism is low SMV. As far as how I calculate "who is and is not attractive," the simple answer is I don't. I talk about it in theory. The only people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:44 PM
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Many young folks today are time-poor They are? I mean, I hear a lot of complaining but not a lot of people who are consistently productive. People today have more leisure time than past generations. Also, all of what you described seems like a low value person. "Lack of finances" "lack of free time" "little money and lots of stress" "wanking to porn is easier [compared to them talking to a real girl]." What about any of this says this is an attractive mate? This seems extremely low value. SMV is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:34 PM
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It's true there's other factors in deciding who has sex in a given timeframe, but really, which would you expect to weigh most heavily? Access has to be one of--if not THE--top predictor of having sex or sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:09 PM
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these are from people who have no fucking clue and are terrible at empathy. Think you hit the nail on the head at the very end. I'm pretty low in empathy. Still disagree that most sex occurs between equals. There's literally that commonly cited statistic that 30% of men but only 18% of women (or something) have been sexless in the last year. Assuming those men are roughly the bottom 30%, who were those 12% of women who were as undesirable as the sexless men but still had sex, having sex with? Cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:02 PM
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Honestly I was probably close to a social pariah. I was kicked out of my frat lol (got in a fight...... more than once). But I'm a bit of a lone wolf type so that's really what I mean by "you can do fine without a social circle." You can also be as attractive as me if you just lift. You don't even need to be Arn. Just a 10-15 pounds more muscle than you'd have not lifting and be lean. Boom you're a 7 or 8. My HS experience is a bit goofy. A lot of girls liked me in retrospect. I didn't really ge…
/r/askTRP16/06/20 07:45 PM
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Well I do other things too lol. I just graduated college during pandemic and have an LTR now so this answer is a bit dated. But during college I was in a frat so I met girls at parties sometimes (not the majority of my lays), I'm really fucking good at Tinder and good looking (maybe 40% of lays), and I was pretty good about getting girls in classes/clubs at college (the other 40%) by just being friendly/attractive and inviting them out to do random shit (usually involving drinking). But I'd hard…
/r/askTRP16/06/20 07:25 PM
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"Salty Gen-X'r looking for cuties to play Pandemic & drink Corona with." Lmao. Pretty good bio. Makes me think of Uncle V Kind of who I had in mind. I could probably be doxxed from what I've said but I'm nobody and I don't even say anything particularly bad about women. I just wouldn't want to lose my job. I could give a fuck less if people down the street were gossiping. Also sometimes I share some personal things I just wouldn't want people to know, and while my LTR knows most of my views, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:19 PM
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Ah, gotcha. I guess that's fair. I'd think most people provide that though, even if the girl or guy is "lower value."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:11 PM
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So, Reddit spread TRP ideas by quarantining TRP I think TRP's recent surge in spread is independent of Reddit. Though I can see what you may be getting at--condemning it on Reddit pushed it onto other platforms, spreading it. That part could be true. "spinning plates is a rational response to open hypergamy" Pretty much. Disclaimer I'm currently in an LTR. But the only real way to navigate the sexual marketplace nowadays is to plate and next until someone of quality comes along. Too many women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:13 PM
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I mean I don't think OP has a good point because I don't think many men beyond very low functioning idiots believes in that fantasy. Plus there was an awful lot of denial that women can have casual sex with men who are substantially better than their looksmatch in this thread. That's pretty wrong. I don't know how anyone could live their life and really think that unless they're like 16 years old or something. Women cannot get what they want at will. This is true. Women can get sex rather easily…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:49 PM
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You can rate the experiences of desperate people when they finally get what they (think they) want. Many a desperate dude got the dildo treatment and hated it. There is no substantiation to this. I guess I hear, now and then, of subpar dudes relenting that women they're banging won't date them. But it's really quite a rare situation. Without that deep driven thirst (because you have sex regularly enough with hotter women), the decision to accept any hoe’s mouth is less appealing. This is true bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:46 PM
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Eh, I don't really "play the game of trying to keep my girl from fucking other guys" as much as I would just next her if she did. But to my knowledge she doesn't. I don't invest much time in thinking about it or trying to figure it out, but if I did find out she cheated, she'd be gone. That's really the only difference. But, yeah, our views vary. GL on your own pursuits.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 03:22 PM
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More or less the vibe I'm getting. Sometimes I answer so that others who find the thread can see the two sides of the argument though. It's easier to see why you may want to believe in something if you see the argument for why you may not want to simultaneously.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 03:21 PM
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Definitely not my first rodeo. I found TRP when I was roughly 16-17 lol. I'm almost 23 now. Just bounced around a lot of accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:20 PM
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You forgot 5. Absolutely no desire to go and ask random men for sex. 6. Absolutely no desire to have sex with random men off the street. What you/girls want doesn't matter to the whole "getting men as a women is not easy" thing. If I say you drink water, it does not matter if you drink it from a cup, bottle, or directly from a lake. You still drink water. Likewise women don't have life perfectly laid out for them like some fantasy. They can still get attractive men to have sex with them--it's ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:18 PM
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All of the good things you cite here can be done without turning a blind eye to her fucking other dudes. This sounds like "if I cannot guarantee I can smoothly win the game, I will intentionally lose and be happy about losing. Now the game does not control me and I am free."
/r/askTRP16/06/20 03:12 PM
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Most of this checks out and much of what "doesn't" is stuff that's simply up to interpretation. For example neither of us can prove whether negative attention or no attention is 'better' as that's a somewhat philosophical debate with no true right answer. I would say, though--if a girl wants to fuck above her SMV, the guys who won't really do it because of morals or whatever don't matter so much. Women are approached in most social contexts--they don't approach so much. It's not like she'd come …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:23 PM
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Eh, I've banged women in "open relationships" and they seem to look down on their men somewhat. The thing about letting her fuck other dudes is that isn't your girl anymore. You're just giving her freedom sexually while still giving commitment (worst possible move). It: Makes you look bad in public and to anybody who knows. GL with pre-selection afterwards Doesn't offer you anything to let her fuck other people that you can't just get if only you fuck other people Raises paternity questions when…
/r/askTRP16/06/20 01:36 PM
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It's pretty beta if you go around spouting it like you're some victim, or telling women you haven't known a long time It's not beta to have had it happen. It could have been when you were a kid.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 01:18 PM
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Pretty much yeah
/r/askTRP16/06/20 01:15 PM
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Sexual Market Value
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:15 PM
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Oh god. This is going to be a fun one. Let's run through some things here. > Is not having a big social circle a huge turnoff? Definitely not. I spend most of my time Redditing, playing video games, lifting, smoking weed, working, etc--basically the nerdiest hobbies (excluding lifting) possible, and I don't have many friends currently. I do fine with women. > I go to a STEM school and my friends don't go out yada yada Find new friends, join new groups, there's always options... and yes, quitting…
/r/askTRP16/06/20 01:11 PM
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I can see the disgust if it's a true open relationship and the OP didn't specify, to be fair. I'm in an LTR where I can fuck some other girls sometimes and I'd still look down upon men who share their women.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 01:06 PM
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I've pretty much wrapped up having sex with other girls while keeping my LTR but I blew through quite a few in our earlier years. We still do threesomes now and then when I can snatch one up. My personal rule was to not tell other girls about my LTR. My reason was: My LTR changes how women act towards me It does not change how I intend to act towards them (they're for sex only whether or not I'm in an LTR) I find this discrepancy to be illogical so I eliminated it. The reason women suck to deal …
/r/askTRP16/06/20 01:03 PM
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Like someone else said, I don't know about "big." But, for example, I had a university discussion section with about 15 students discussing TRP in class (dissing it) as it related to one subject we were talking about. Of the 15 of us, I'd say 12/15ish knew what it was, and one of the ones who "didn't" know what it was was me, who probably knew it better than any of the others. So yes, it's definitely spreading. Lot of people know it at least on the surface level.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 12:57 PM
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I've lost count of the times guys on here have argued that women can go out and get sex 7 days a week any time they want. It's not true in my experience. It is true. You're just not doing what is required to make it come true. Look up 'asking 100 men to have sex in public' on YouTube and it's a social experiment (prank) video. 46 men (I think) of 100 say yes when a woman just says basically "hey let's fuck." What women do not have 7 days per week: attractive men willing to go through the full co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:54 PM
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Depends what you define all of these things as. Celebrity is ambiguous, regular sex is ambiguous, just somewhat cute is ambiguous. I will tell you almost every single NFL player (barring guys like Tim Tebow) fucked HB5-7 women in college. Do you think the NFL players at my college had exceptionally low standards? Because again, I literally lived with those dudes. I know who they fuck. We've got players on the Giants, Patriots, Dolphins, pretty much every team--starters. Their contracts are worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:50 PM
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This applies to most men and women This positively affirmatively undoubtedly does NOT apply to men. What world could you be living in to suggest that? For men, the MORE serious a relationship gets the more they can punch above their weight. An average guy has a much better chance to wife a HB8 because he's a programmer and makes 200k (BB) than he does to have a ONS with that girl. Better treatment than... what? Name-calling, bullying, ignoring, ghosting, leaving right after fucking? Guys do all …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:41 PM
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FWIW, your rebuttal is far worse than my evidence. Your rebuttal is just to call my analysis an anecdote? Glad you bring so much to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:30 PM
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I think that the OP is kind of loaded. Of course if you frame it as "Men think even the ugliest women on the planet can fuck the hottest Chad ever and lock him down forever" fucking obviously that's bullshit lmao. Dip far enough into the extreme of any truth and you'll find something that's no longer true. The sentiment is that women can have sex with men way more attractive than them at least once and somewhat reliably. The sentiment is true. The whole "and they can date them for the rest of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:27 PM
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Copy and pasted from my other response: Yasiel Puig (former LA Dodgers Outfielder) had sex with a girl I've fucked who I'd rate a HB6 Male model with a few hundred thousand followers had sex with a plate of mine who was HB7 at best I could probably name at least 3 HB5-7 girls (each) that about 10 current NFL players have fucked. I went to a school with a top football program and lived in that dorm so I know some of those guys. So yes rich and famous men do fuck average-ish girls and I've seen it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:23 PM
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You don't live somewhere that decent looking girls have access to this then. Yasiel Puig (former LA Dodgers Outfielder) had sex with a girl I've fucked who I'd rate a HB6 Male model with 1 million followers had sex with a plate of mine who was HB7 at best I could probably name at least 3 HB5-7 girls (each) that about 10 current NFL players have fucked. I went to a school with a top football program and lived in that dorm so I know some of those guys. But I guess this kind of thing never happens.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:15 PM
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Hardly would say it "falls apart." This is just easier to talk about in first person so I'm just going to transition over and speak for all attractive men for a sec out of my ass. Yes I am 100x more likely to ghost you, not respond to your message, etc if we match and I think you're below a certain looks-standard. Yes you pretty much have no chance after I bang you once. No I don't want to see you again. But could you send me a message "Hey, want some head?" or respond to my flirtatious messages…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:05 PM
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It's generally correct though they definitely skew towards certain types of looks above others. However I think "there's this one guy/girl they overrated/underrated who is soooooo attractive" type of arguments fall pretty flat. The more likely explanation is that the world just doesn't think they're as attractive as you do, rather than that TRM conspires against them. Remember: models are people who photograph well, not people who are attractive (though that typically correlates, it doesn't nece…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:00 PM
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when I was online dating I'd go on about one date a week This is part of your reasoning as to why women don't have an easy time in online dating? Do you really think the average guy can get one date per week on online dating? The average guy would be lucky to get one date every two months. I get one date per week and other men literally come to me for advice on how to use Tinder because it's that rare. And they're only around your attractiveness level in your opinion. Again, it's difficult for p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:58 AM
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If you're wondering all of this and stressing about a girl at a bus sitting near you, you should be confident to know you're not high SMV
/r/askTRP16/06/20 03:19 AM
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Simple answer: yes It's more important than looks entirely. It just confuses people because, outside of celebrity status and rich men, appearance largely dictates status.
/r/askTRP16/06/20 03:13 AM
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Those guys are idiots. I don't take responsibility for all of what people who read TRP say and neither should somebody else. What I am saying and I think is popular opinion is that women can fuck men who are better than the men they date (think: AF/BB). This is pretty much factual and not really an opinion, tbh. However it is pretty stupid if people truly think literally any woman can fuck literally any man. That's just dumb. Attractive men don't want to waste their time with unattractive women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:05 AM
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If you're facially attractive and dress slutty, yes. You can be hot and not dress slutty. Well why else would an attractive woman have a lower n count Because attractive woman can get BFs which naturally lowers their n-counts. Sally 5 is going to have a bigger n-count just by virtue of being single from 18-24 than Betsy 8 who had a BF from 18-23 and was only single for 6 months while she was 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:58 AM
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Your weight doesn't mean a whole lot without seeing your face (which I'm not asking you to send). Also that weight may or may not be skinny at that height depending on your frame and musculature. I'm just saying--men definitely fuck downwards. You may just not have a realistic view of the respective SMVs of each of you. A lot of people do not really understand their own SMV, or other people's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:56 AM
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Then without sounding like too much of a dick, you just have to be really ugly. I have female friends who are below average and they still consistently match with attractive guys. I'm also (no brag) an attractive guy myself and I swipe right on anything I determine to be a 4 and better. I'm probably a 7 or 8 to most people (6.5 on TrueRateMe if you've heard of that). And you have to be pretty ugly for me to not right swipe you. So there's just something not lining up there. Your view of somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:41 AM
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I've been with her for 4 years and banged 25 other women while with her and she knows it. I think I'm doing fine by myself
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:37 AM
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Oh ok, so you mean natural beauties that don't wear makeup and dress modestly. Ok, well your study makes sense then. I thought you were implying HOT women don't sleep around. Well I can't speak on these traditional conservative prim women so. Hot =/= dresses slutty. And not dressing slutty =/= doesn't wear make-up, and is a "traditional conservative prim woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:35 AM
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I mean, yes, if you are literally a tub of lard, then nobody with high SMV will want to fuck you, unless there's something wrong with them otherwise (or they've got a weird fetish/no standards). But if you're an okay looking girl, you can fuck most guys. If you're somewhat cute, you can fuck rich and famous men. If you're below average, you can fuck above average men. The point isn't that you can fuck literally anybody no matter what if you are a woman. It's that you can fuck significantly above…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:32 AM
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Secondly, if experienced men choose to wife a woman at all , he will choose a low n woman, because he knows first hand why high n women are bad bets for relationships and marriage This X100. No idea why people think only virgins can like less experienced women. All of my experience has told me that I probably shouldn't give a ring to the girl who tells me she fucked a Columbian drug dealer for coke on our first date. Probably not the perfect fit to be the mother of my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:24 AM
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Yeah, I suspect the "alpha chads" who fucked lots of women mostly married women with similar sexual values. They probably aren't obsessed with marrying a shy virgin girl It can go either way. Of the LTRs for myself and of people I know it's like throwing a dart at a dart board in relation to each other's n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:21 AM
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Very true. And even then, 90% of the women you can fuck aren't ones you'd want to date. Checking in with a decently high n-count, and I'd say 2-3 were LTR-able.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:18 AM
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Honestly at this point this is just how girls operate. Even on the "good side" of things. I've accepted that so I'm okay with it but it is what it is. My LTR on paper probably seems like a great woman. HB8, n-count only 3, etc. She was still willing to be my plate for a long time, has had a ONS, and another FWB situation. And that's a girl with decent morals and a lot of market power. It isn't a bad thing the world works like this nowadays, but you should certainly be aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:17 AM
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Not only does not every state have this, but also it's not as simple as "live together and you're married." It's actually somewhat difficult to prove that a marriage is "common law" and typically would only help you (i.e. you died and they're trying to figure out where to put your assets and you have a LTR of 12 years with 3 kids from you)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:13 AM
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I agree, but I disagree on your conclusion. "They should accept they lost the lottery and move on" No, because dating is not a lottery. You can improve your hand with hard work. There's no need to quit. But to not be bitter is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:11 AM
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I'm with an LTR right now where our relationship is pretty similar to this. However, we had some power struggles early on, and it just happened to land the pendulum somewhat like this. Then again I'm not sure what other type of relationship there is that's long-term and with kids involved. Both people need to carry weight as one person has a very difficult time doing everything required to raise a kid solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:46 AM
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Women, regardless of income, generally won't date men who make less Women as a gender earn 78% of what men make (not trying to cite the wage gap--but it's true in that sense) so most women don't need to compromise and date someone making less than them. But they will do it. I know plenty of cases where this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:33 AM
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Not really. Look at the actual sub. Half the dudes are in an LTR. Don’t rely on stereotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:57 AM
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You can have discernment and still be a “whore” by the standards of many
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:54 AM
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TRP does not promote goals. It is explicitly not a guide telling you what to pursue in your life. Just how to obtain different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:52 AM
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Nah. Because if there's 1 female millionaire for every 10 male millionaires, every female millionaire can get a male millionaire and there's still 9 to spare. If the ratio was 1:1, the fact that male millionaires don't really seek out female millionaires would mean some female millionaires had to settle for non-millionaires. For what it's worth, rich females do go for non-rich males at times. Just depends what they offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:40 PM
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I think there's a good level of balance to strike. I dealt with similar ideas and debated it myself the last few years. I graduated from a top school with a high GPA and can ace practice LSATs somewhat reliably. So I could make some serious cash if I pursued that. However, I don't think it's worth it. If I went down that road, I'd spend 3 more years grinding away in school with no money. After that, I'd start working 80 hour weeks, slaving away to make bank. Then other people would be enjoying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:29 PM
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Chiming in but I would say it does and doesn't, depending on the scale versus the size of the gap. For example... NYC has a very skewed gender imbalance with more women (think 60:40). NYC is huge. You still notice it. My college campus had a 52:48 ratio of men:women. It was among only 20,000 rather than millions or so people. You couldn't tell at all. Step into an engineering class (9:1 men:women) or liberal arts class (5:1 women:men) and suddenly power imbalances start emerging.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:17 PM
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Make sure you look as good as you possibly can Be willing to settle compared to what your expectations are (because clearly they haven't been met in years) and don't treat the guy negatively just because he doesn't live up to, again, the expectations that nobody else met either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:12 PM
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I mean, it's all situational/depends. Since you put a somewhat hyperbolic percentage of men, my mind immediately jumped to being rich and famous (since that's literally what that percentage corresponds to). And being rich/famous... well it depends on the person if you think that's good and worth it or not. Some people want nothing more, and would gladly grind away to get it if only they knew they could. Others? You could offer it to them for free and they'd turn it down. If you knew me personall…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:09 PM
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Well you could do it for yourself. Most of the things that improve SMV also improve your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:55 PM
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losing the resources needed to get in the upper 0.000001% smv What resources do you lose to improve yourself? Also pretty much nobody can reach an SMV that high regardless of effort level
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:39 PM
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If you reverse the genders, however, it rarely, rarely happens. Because there's not many female self-made millionaires lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:52 PM
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Far as I see it: Hot & interesting girl > Hot & uninteresting girl > Normal & interesting girl > Normal & uninteresting girl > Other girls ​ No matter what people say I will choose the hot girl. If I don't like banging you and you're a girl, I don't like you like that. Romantic/sexual attractions center around appearance. The thing is, getting to an SMV where you can pick your girl and settle on as few things as possible is important. Then you don't need hot IG model or plain Jane with some hobb…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:51 PM
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Because the core of the philosophy is trying to become the best man possible. Do you want the best man or runner-up? Easy choice. *Disclaimer: obviously in practice not every "RP" guy becomes some great high SMV fuck machine, but that's the idea anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:46 PM
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Rather her fuck women than men. Don't really care about women. Not true competition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:44 PM
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I really think most don't care. The thing is, I'm one who "doesn't care" and my LTR is really smart and has some money. So while I don't care in theory, I think that things I like from LTRs will always lend themselves more-so to at least decently intelligent girls. But men definitely hype looks over anything else in social situations. I had a friend dating a girl in her last year of med school (or maybe second-to-last, no fucking clue how med school works) and she was like a HB5, so not bad eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:44 PM
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There's a lot more to it than that but yes. Technically I am. However she's of a higher 'percentile' so to speak so it's a moot point. I think holding frame is the #1 TRP skill to actually get places. That is, once you have the basics down (decently in shape, decent looking, nice clothes, some personality). But after that it's all frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:17 AM
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She was fine with me sleeping with others while we were together. I recently willingly stopped, but I still could if I wanted (I don't)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:22 AM
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At least you're not one of those unholy queers that likes butts on their tongue instead
/r/askTRP05/06/20 01:07 AM
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That's what I thought.
/r/askTRP05/06/20 01:02 AM
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You probably like it in the ass queerboy
/r/askTRP05/06/20 12:48 AM
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Most women don't have a one thousand cock stare. If you're seeing it in every woman, it no longer provides any value to you to be able to detect it.
/r/askTRP05/06/20 12:47 AM
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Cats are small and feminine--fun to play with, but can't hurt much Dogs are bigger and more menacing--can bite off a finger for sure, slightly dangerous ​ The irony is, if the natural world had any day, cats would be the masculine animal. Tigers and lions are 1000x the predator that the biggest dogs are. Big cats are just so masculine/dangerous that they're unsafe to own, so we're left with just little cats that are feminine and big dogs that are masculine comparatively
/r/askTRP05/06/20 12:41 AM
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Why does everything have to be all this or all that? Male looks matter. They're just not everything. And they don't matter as much as female looks. Go try to date as a random white guy. Then go date as the best looking white guy you know. It'll be vastly different. Also stop glorifying height so much. I'm 5'9". I've gotten more pussy than 90% of guys 6' and taller and my LTR is hotter than the LTR of 98% of guys that height. Height really isn't that big of a deal. One of the biggest alphas I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:39 AM
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I think that as a man you can fuck whoever you want pre-LTR and it'll feel special if it's your first LTR regardless. I'm in a 4-year LTR with the girl who took both my virginity and was my first LTR (had others later so my count isn't low, but she was still first). In any case I regretted letting her be the first a lot, but the fact we've only had this LTR together is pretty special. Neither of us really know what life with someone else is like. I don't really want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:37 AM
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You can try LTRs before you reach your peak too--it'll be good experience in that realm and maybe you'll even find an LTR you like before you peak. I was pretty beta when I met my LTR, but have gotten better since. And she's helped in that. It's rare for women to push men forward these days, but those women are still out there
/r/askTRP03/06/20 06:26 PM
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Level of girls you can get increases, frequency of girls you can get increases. Still get all the girls you would have gotten before too
/r/askTRP03/06/20 04:15 PM
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Nah. Men just want variety. I've got an LTR who's all of these things plus her personality is great for me. Still like variety
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:35 PM
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LTRs can be fun if you manage it right It's also the best way to start a family They're also good practice ahead of time for that LTR where you start a family and such /thread
/r/askTRP03/06/20 01:27 PM
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Well lemme take you out for a nice bottle of wine and a good time and we'll see how fast your opinion changes lol I'm kidding but I hear shit like this a lot. "You're too short," "you're average," blah blah. Then I still fuck those same girls. Maybe you're different, but it's a playbook I've certainly seen before
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:21 PM
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Male, 22, my body count is somewhere 20-25 (I don't count it). Could be higher but I turn lots of women down below my standards and haven't pursued sex in a while (LTR) I have no comment on what I consider acceptable for women outside the ones I pursue as I haven't thought about it nearly as much, but: ONS: don't care Plate: don't care FWB: don't care LTR who's 18-20ish: 3 or below LTR who's 21-23ish: 6 or below They aren't 'hard-line' standards, meaning if someone is 20 and fucked 4 guys... wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:09 PM
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For a man- the highest level of women willing to have casual sex with him +2 Um no. I've had casual sex with women I'd call HB8s who even the harshest rater would call HB7s. I'm not some 6'2" ripped Chad HG9. For women it's the highest you can date For men it's the highest you can fuck (if you can't fuck them, they're above you)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:03 PM
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Thinking something is fine is different from encouraging it or doing it yourself. My LTR is 1 month older than me for what that's worth, but I don't really care when people my age date younger. If there weren't laws, I wouldn't care how young other people wanted to aim. Younger women aim for older men all the time. Older man can aim for younger women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:27 PM
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