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ScienceTheJim66/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:19 PM
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CMVTheJim66/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:30 PM
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Question For WomenTheJim66/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:20 PM
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Purge Week!TheJim66/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 02:27 PM
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Question For MenTheJim66/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 07:55 PM
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You dumbTheJim66/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:28 PM
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Question For MenTheJim66/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 09:23 PM
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Many factors for this. -You are noticing how they date after the epiphany phase. None of these things matter when they are younger. -Women's emotion evolved in an utilitarian manner. It's not that she thinks it logically that the dude must make more money. It's that she finds the men that make less as lesser and thus has a hard time being attracted to them. -Men simply don't have relationship for utility because other than sex, they don't need anything from women. As a man if you want money, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:09 PM
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Pink obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:49 PM
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No. It's such a simple question and without any reason to lie, they aren't lying or delusional about it. They either feel hot for him or they don't. They like their relationship or they don't. I already showed how the decline in sexual desire makes their self reported cause of divorce unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:08 PM
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If women can lie or be delusional about why they got divorced, they can lie or be delusional about desiring their husbands No. It's such a simple question and without any reason to lie, they aren't lying or delusional about it. They either feel hot for him or they don't. They like their relationship or they don't. I already showed how the decline in sexual desire makes their self reported cause of divorce unreliable. To you women lie/are delusional about everything, right? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:17 PM
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-. -
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:56 PM
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That was a personal attack? Anyway, fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:55 PM
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Looks get you sex. This increases your well being. Come on man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:41 PM
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Any answer can be a lie Be serious. Couples in that study were not just recruited and interviewed multiple times, but also paid Their answers were still anonymous. How is getting paid influence the study? And again, I’m gonna take surveys totaling over 30,000 people of all ages and demographic in different countries over this singular data point But they aren't contradicting each other, they are just showing that what women think is the reason for the divorce, probably isn't the actual cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:38 PM
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Asking "what do you think is the reason for your divorce" isn't the same as asking"Do you desire your husband?" , "Are you satisfied with your marriage? ".Its much less up to interpretation. What are you talking about? They are anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:54 PM
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Literally my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:29 PM
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They'd have needed to contact respondents by mail (so they needed an address) or by phone (so they needed a phone number). Way easier to truly be anonymous now. And they remain anonymous by.... just not writing down the name next to the answers. "Keeping up appearances" and pretending to be happy was more valued by everyone (men and women) in the past. They are anonymous surveys. What's there to keep up appearances about? would have felt comfortable being honest about how unhappy they were when …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:01 PM
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Pretty much. Why would I reject sex otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:38 PM
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Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:30 PM
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You don't know women then 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:25 PM
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They aren't lying. They just lack self awareness. Decline in the woman's sexual desire PRECEDES and PREDICTS marital dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:24 PM
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Women tend to post stories wherever they go. So you just look through those that posted a story at that location and you find her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:51 PM
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🤡world
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:17 PM
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What happened to the discord?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:04 PM
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I've rejected some fatties for sex. Attractive or even average women, no. I have rejected plenty of women for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:43 AM
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Accurate. Women have sex with those they want a relationship with. So women choose who they have sex with and men choose whether that becomes something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:34 AM
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I know dudes, good looking dudes, that see a woman they find atractive in bars/clubs/coffeeshops and instead of asking them out then and there , they look them up on Instagram and DM them there. You are underestimating the effect of the phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:12 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:53 AM
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If it wasn't for a tiny percentage of innovators, men would also be living in mud huts. Those innovators were all men. It's bizarre to exclude them for some reason when talking about the contributions of men. Additionally, even the contributions of the average man are more important. Who built these houses and large structures? Who protected society? Who did trade etc. The wage gap is a motherhood gap. It's not. Single women of all other age groups also make less money than single men. It defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:02 AM
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Yeah, what women say is the reason isn't the actual cause of their problems. They aren't particularly self aware. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/d53tvy/is_female_sexuality_actually_a_trap_for_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:57 AM
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Sure but it's more of an evidence than the opposing side offers. Also, as much as I love psychology, there is no reason for them to be wrong . It was a simple question of "how happy are you".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:55 AM
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Motherhood is a vital job only women can do. I agree.But that's not the contribution women today focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:52 AM
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It's not too much to ask and if you are attractive you can probably even get a reasonably attractive one. But the smaller the gap the more of a disadvantageous position you are in. The more valuable the man is, the younger the women he can get after all. Depending on how urgent this is for you, I don't know if you would want to risk it. The most important thing is to learn to vet for a stable personality. I wouldn't recommend going for a younger dude actually. Remember, youth is valuable in a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:51 AM
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If necessity dictated, women would take on those jobs. Lots of women took to factories during WW2. There were still men that did the physically demanding jobs. Operating an automated line in a factory isn't what I was referring to. So are most workers in general. Society still depends on them. We are talking about a hypothetical. If men stopped working tomorrow, society would crumble. If women did, not so much. The USSR had a better track record for women's rights than the US and saw massive fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:45 AM
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No, he isn't actually clinically depressed, he is frustrated though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:41 AM
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Its the main one though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:51 AM
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Seems like you also benefit from successful men. You don't see me claiming men are useless. I have humility and appreciation. Only women live indoors. TIL. Huh? Single women out-earn single men, especially in big cities. Nope. Single women under 30 make more than men in big cities. Literally all other age groups and divisions, don't. As for drugs, nope. Mens illegal drug usage isn't comparable to women's legal drug usage in prevalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:50 AM
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They can still swing a pick, an axe or a shovel. Innefectively. They also lack the tolerance for risk taking these jobs require and willingness to put themselves in harms way these jobs require. It really doesn't, because they are in fact contributing, right now, as we speak. Yes but like I said, they are replaceable. As recently as my mother's generation she was discouraged from taking a career in a STEM field by social pressure. No, she was discouraged from a stem career because women aren't i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:48 AM
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But here's the beauty of it. It's not men who are riding the coattails of successful men. It's women. They keep screaming we don't need no man and men are pigs/useless/whatever while in reality if it wasnt for men they would be living in mud huts As for the average man,he is better than the average woman. For one he makes more money than her and isn't suffering from mental illness and taking meds for it. So yes, some humility and appreciation wouldn't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:44 AM
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Ban bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:38 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:37 AM
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That was based on a debunked study. Dude that made it mixed up the questions on a survey and came up with that clickbaity conclusion. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/41408/are-single-women-actually-happier-study-misinterprets-data-researchers-say
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:36 AM
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Women, why do you keep failing as a gender? Are milky titties too much to ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:33 AM
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Depends on the topic. This is a debate sub after all. In general some appreciation of men and some humility wouldn't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:30 AM
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High IQ by itself isn't enough to make someone exempt from the sexuality of his/her gender. I'm talking about actual brain anomalies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:29 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:29 AM
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Women could do the jobs men do They physically couldn't. The fact men could do the jobs women dominate in doesn't change the fact it's women doing them and I'd really prefer they didn't stop. Sure. But it does show who contributes more to society doesn't it? We're still coming out of a society in which women were It's been decades since women became equal. The status quo hasn't changed. The top in every field are still men even at a time where we actively Incentivize women to do more and favor t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:28 AM
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40+ for you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:23 AM
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I’m sure some women could do that just as well Nah. Women arent polyandrous. They didnt evolve to detach from sex like us. Sex with your spouse is better than masturbation hopefully?!! It is. But it's not better than sex with new pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:22 AM
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I don’t think there is a pill to ‘unautize’ yourself so doubt No but it would make it easier to diagnose whether you actually are like that™ or not :P
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:20 AM
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It's fun and can bring you closer but it's a bad bandaid. You will never stop a man from wanting to fuck other women. What you can do is choose someone who will control himself not to and to have a good relationship with him and offer enough value so that he isn't tempted to. The last part is somewhat of a problem due to age and n count but if the man isn't that attractive himself or old, it might not be that much of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:19 AM
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Dry vag causes dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:16 AM
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Eh, man can completely separate their emotions from sex. It can really be just like masturbating for us. Emotionally I mean. I understand if that's not what you want however. Just noting that it has some consequences as a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:15 AM
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Have you checked for autism? I've heard it's under diagnosed in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:14 AM
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I also have high libido and willing to explore variety with my partner. I assumed thats what you meant with that <sup>.If</sup> you meant just different positions and stuff while good to have, it doesn't really solve the sexual variety issue. For men it means "new pussy". Surely he can sow his wild oats and have those experiences before finding me? I would say that probably helps but it also comes with the problem that men who can sow their wild oats, have more options and thus temptations. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:13 AM
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In general, unless you have some other brain anomaly, like autism for example, you shouldn't assume you aren't like other women. These are important gender related traits.Maybe you are mistaking "attractive for relationship" With "sexually and thus romanticslly attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:10 AM
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For the purposes of the topic of the sub, it's important to clarify that society indeed run on men's labor. It bleeds into many topics we discuss. Which is also why it's not about stolen valor. I'm not claiming that men do x so I am better than you. I'm claiming that men do x so they are better than women. Also, one of the big differences between the vital jobs a woman does and the ones a man does is that the ones women do, men could do adequately with no significant issue to the running of soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:07 AM
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You mean willing to have MFF threesomes? Then you'll have zero problems finding a man 😂. You should probably start with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:58 AM
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You're willing to drop a kid for adoption but a white lie is where you draw the line? Why? Also, I will be tempted to ‘raise’ him if it is a personality thing so he will have to be Ugly or else his SMV will increase and I will put myself ‘outta the job’ No offense but I have my doubts as to whether you know which personality traits actually make a man attractive to women. Unfortunately it's not those that make him a good husband or father. So you probably won't have to worry on that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:57 AM
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Many more things will make you live longer more reliably than pregnancy,do them instead. Or just get a good dude and get knocked up. Someone could have called me out like this in that sub though Yeah the ban was uncalled for I agree. I'm guessing it was because they already expect you to understand and agree on some level with the principles of the sub.Dont necessarily agree with that. I have no idea about surrogacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:52 AM
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No, because these things aren't sexually attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:48 AM
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the issue is they have issues with THEMSELVES I doubt it honestly. I find it more likely that you are just seeing these issues because you aren't that into them. Imo cheaters have low self-esteem and that’s why they cheat when they feel pressure from relationship issues. No. That's what people tell themselves to feel better. Men cheat because we have very high libidos and are wired to want sexual variety. Some restrain themselves in order to protect their relationships, others are willing to ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:40 AM
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Unfortunately grew up without a man in the home. Understandable. I did get married young to a medical professional Stability doesn't necessarily mean money. It also means having the personality of a stable man. I'm not suggesting to be a trophy wife. If you believe you can make a relationship where you arent that attracted to the man work, I would suggest going that way. Just find a good dude and make a family with him. Have sex with him a couple times a week and act like you enjoy it and it'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:37 AM
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What other choice do I have if I ever want to experience pregnancy even though I can’t find ‘mr right’ ? We don't always get what we want and burdening a child like that just because of your wants is extremely selfish. As for what I suggest, see the other comment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:31 AM
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Frankly what you should have done is be more selective about men from the beginning. Especially when it comes to stability. That way you would have kept a lower n and gotten a man while younger. As for what you can do now, you can either get with a man that will cheat on you as they told you over there or you can settle for a man you aren't that attracted to but is stable and probably won't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:27 AM
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You did say you want to have a kid so you can be healthier and get big boobs (I approve of that part but I'm biased) which you are gonna drop to adoption afterwards. That's kinda psychopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:23 AM
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It definitely wasn't that you were too logical. A bit psychopathic maybe. But not banworthy imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:19 AM
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Give me the freaks. All of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:15 AM
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No, that's not why all these things happen. These things happen because women have trouble staying attracted to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:10 AM
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I guess it can be used to know which days you've burned less or more calories, even if you don't exactly know how many.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:02 AM
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Keep trying to force a point. It’s not working. [https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/d53tvy/is_female_sexuality_actually_a_trap_for_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share](http://Nah.it is.) Decline in the womans sexual desire precedes and predicts marital dissatisfaction for both. So it's really on her in most cases whether he'll be a good companion or not. Him offering his sperm isn’t a default value-add either since port relationships divorce and breakup and people cheat …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:16 PM
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again, if he’s a good companion the it’s a value add Most men are good enough companions to be value add, if she isn't a b-word. women are not default “good romantic companions” and are in resentful relationships. I said if she isn't a b-word. means nothing to a woman who has never experienced danger despite a man not being around to protect her “from the outside.” When did that stop women from being neurotic and afraid? And what happens when they are in danger? Just because I haven't been robbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:50 PM
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Men make more money than women in every age group =>money added Men are stronger than women, can dissuade others from attacking a woman by their mere presence and ease up women's fears=>protection Children and FSM status are self evident. Men are into the woman as long as she isnt a b-word and enjoy their company =>companionship added. If you actually understood what I was saying we would have reached the conclusion that you are wrong much sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:31 PM
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See previous study
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:22 PM
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As I already showed, it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:19 PM
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If men could fuck in a cardboard box, that's where they would live. -Confucius.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:18 PM
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And Im saying that it does. There is zero shortage of men that would NET positive value to women. The things I mentioned aren't rare to find in a relationship with a man. They are the rule not the exception. Which of course women know. Women aren't staying single, they are DELAYING marriage. Most men get married at least once in their lives Protection = is it being leveraged? Yes. Simply being with a man offers the woman protection and ease of mind. Companionship = do you two lovingly enjoy each…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:17 PM
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I care about money, mostly because of sex and possibly family. If it wasn't for sex I would be perfectly happy with an average income. The things I need aren't expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:05 PM
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Just because “time was invested” and “effort was invested” doesn’t mean it will result in added value to her life. It does because men offer the things I mentioned in my original comment.....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:03 PM
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Which should clue you in that women don't actually know what the problem is. It's relevant to your point because it shows women's lack of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:02 PM
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The time and investment results in added value in the majority of cases. Am I stuttering or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:59 PM
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I literally just showed how womens decline in sexual attraction to the man PRECEDES and PREDICTS marital dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:57 PM
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Apparently, they were happier 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:56 PM
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It's not that they lie. It's that they lack self awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:54 PM
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What do you understand when I say "the time and effort spent are worth the investment" ? That it doesn't result in value added?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:53 PM
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It's not that they are incorrect. I'm sure that's what women say caused the divorce. I just doubt it was actually the reason. As for why I believe the other part, there is no reason to dispute that. What reason would they have to lie or not be aware of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:41 PM
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Im saying that the things I mentioned are obviously worth the time and effort investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:39 PM
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High 6- Low 7 probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:38 PM
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What's true, is that observably more so than men, those women are more okay choosing to be single over choosing a romantic relationship that doesn't "value-add" to her life. You did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:35 PM
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Im saying that the things I mentioned are obviously worth the time and effort investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:20 PM
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What women SAY is the reason is irrelevant. Women tend to lose attraction and then find reasons to be miserable afterwards. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/d53tvy/is_female_sexuality_actually_a_trap_for_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:19 PM
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https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf If the woman wanted the breakup more, that is scored as “1”; if the man wanted the breakup more, that is scored as “0”; and if both partners wanted the breakup equally, that is scored as “0.5.” Table 1 shows that women accounted for 69% of the breakups of heterosexual marriages, consistent with the approximately two thirds of divorces wanted by wives reported in other studies (England and Kilbourne 1990; Sayer et al. 2011; Sweene…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:56 PM
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Is the general idea that women are dishonest with men, dishonest with themselves, or simply not aware of their own nature and motivations? All of this. Not only do women frame things in a way that sheds them and their gender in a positive light, they are also completely and utterly unaware of what they are actually attracted to. Female desire isn't simple like men's, it's multifactorial. Looks, status and game arent things that are easily apparent and are so contextual and interconnected, they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:52 PM
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Nah. Women are just princesses and believe they'll end up with a top man, until they can't anymore. Men add a lot of value to women. Kids, money, protection, emotional stability, companionship, FSM status etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:47 PM
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Her face is a 10 but I would like her to have either a bit more ass or boobs to give her a 9 . Very close though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:42 PM
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Lol no. She cant. Maaaaybe if the dude cums prematurely often. Then she can guess he is nofap
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:39 PM
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I give her a high 8 for that reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:38 PM
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6
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:36 PM
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Nope. Looks much better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:28 PM
1

High 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:27 PM
1

They literally reported being happier in anonymous surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:19 PM
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Worked for the women of the past🤷‍♂️what modern women are doing doesn't seem to be working.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:54 PM
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That's definitely it.....-. -
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:53 PM
2

It's like you didn't even read the rest of my comment. Like I said, women used to be happier, even if they were having sex with men they weren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:52 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean. Relationship sex does make women happier. Exactly. Even if they aren't actually sexually attracted to the dude, which is what happened in the past. I'm talking about relationships, not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:51 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:49 PM
6

They were already growing less happy even before the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:49 PM
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Yep. Look up women's happiness rates. Theyve taken a nose dive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:48 PM
1

Isn't that exactly what used to happen in the past? You know, when women were happier than they are now? I won't deny that the high n culture of today makes things worse than they used to but you are exaggerating the phenomenon you are describing. If she has some foreplay, the sex won't be terrible. At worst she just won't have an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:20 PM
1

Seems like it's a problem with a solution. Just start fucking those guys 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:16 PM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:15 PM
2

Depends on your definition of a right. In the US it is a fundamental right for example. IMO, it should be a right in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:37 PM
2

Something being legal doesn't make it a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:14 PM
5

Slightly more, decimals in the 10point scale. Same if you are a dude that prefers brunettes. Hair colour is just a mild preference that varies from man to man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:30 PM
5

Makes me look like a feminist. What people don't understand is that men like that want to morally justify their dating lives to themselves and to others. The most effective way to do that is to believe "All women are b-words anyway so it's ok if I treat them like shit" .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:20 PM
1

Abortion isn't recognized as a right in pretty much all countries. It's just legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:17 PM
2

Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:15 PM
1

Yeah your state can pass whatever law it wants. But it's not a fundamental right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:30 PM
1

Great for them👍
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:27 PM
1

The right to privacy means that you have privacy for your medical records. It doesn't mean that you have the right to have a professional perform whatever medical procedure you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:27 PM
1

It's illegal in all the countries that actually have laws. If you want to, you can go to some other country and have abortion too. How is that an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:24 PM
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It was forced into being a right by a completely nonsense interpretation of the right to privacy. Which is why it's being overturned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:22 PM
1

It very much is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:22 PM
1

You can create designer babies by altering your sperm's/egg's genetic material. So, theoretically it doesn't have anything to do with the future kid. My body my choice and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:16 PM
1

They do. My eggs/sperm and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:13 PM
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Making designer babies for example. The US not having universal and free healthcare isn't something to be bragging about. The US however IS where abortion is being removed. So what are you even talking about? It's a mark of shame on the entirety of your nation. I'm european
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:07 PM
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It's not, the right to bodily autonomy doesn't mean you can do any medical procedure you want, only the legal ones. Which procedures are legal has nothing to do with bodily autonomy.We talked about this yesterday, I expect better comprehension from adults. we can get abortion covered as a right So they aren't taking away any rights. Abortion was never a right. under universal and free healthcare. The US doesn't have universal and free healthcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:02 PM
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Again, abortion isn't a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:53 PM
2

They could wipe out an entire city and then what? Of course they can deal a fuckton of damage. This doesn't mean that an an armed population the size of the US isn't a threat. We are talking about an insane numbers advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:47 PM
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Sure. I too would enjoy watching millions of armed men against a few hundred thousand better equipped men..... -. -
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:53 AM
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🤦‍♂️ State goons are also outnumbered by the masses 300 to 1.Probably more. An armed man is dangerous regardless of the technology of the weapons.An armed population infinitely more so. An unarmed man vs an armed man, not so much. Arming the population is paramount to keeping the government in check.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:01 AM
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I'll never understand how people build up their own strawmen and then are surprised these strawmen aren't logically congruent....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:57 AM
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I replied there too but here it goes again. 1) and 2) >=6/10 3) I'm a low 7 4) yeah, getting 6s is easy. Getting 7s less so but still quite consistent. Getting 8s Is hardish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:21 PM
1

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:16 PM
1

Yes. Those damn artificial barriers stopping people from becoming billionaires. The only way to get past them is to penetrate them with your dick......
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:00 PM
1

Lol. Are you waiting for someone to take them by the hand and make them billionaires?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:56 PM
2

The wage gap is a known myth. Women also need more healthcare than men for reproductive issues So they spend more. Pay women more and they'll become net payers as well. Sure. Once they start working appropriately. Did you forget what the topic of the convo is?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:43 PM
2

It's more about tax-funded service consumption It's tax funded service consumption + not making enough money. They spend more than they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:38 PM
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Professionals know how to work connections and don't go into unpaid internships. Of course they do. 🤦‍♂️ That is a chart for a single country (New Zealand) for a single year. Did something happen in New Zealand in 2016 to cause women to stop paying taxes? No? Then it's proof enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:34 PM
2

.... How do people become professionals? Are you trolling? How do you think the government makes money? Women net negative
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:20 PM
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Women are a net negative on taxes, meaning they cost more than they produce. Big financial companies are and they sure as hell are not employing mr. incel boy when they can make him work as an unpaid intern. TIL that companies don't hire people. They operate on a good will and fairy dust...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:12 PM
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They aren't making any revenue lmao. Well, someone is making revenue. It's not women, its not blue collar workers, so do the math. So 2.7% (worst case USA scenario) of total population has trouble getting sex. Its not 2.7% . Its at least 1/3 men being sexless at the time they want to (and should) stay sexless the least. This changes their perspective and how they value relationships with women. Will they want to marry these women that scorned them while young? Or will they choose to spend that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:02 PM
1

That plus being pushed to make a surplus of money to get women and sustain their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:53 PM
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And you will be shocked to learn that the modern economy isn't based on blue collar workers 😱 . The majority of tax revenue is made by exactly those entitled city boys you described. As for their numbers, I wouldn't say 1/3 young men being sexless is insignificant. Especially considering the phenomenon is still rapidly rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:51 PM
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Society runs on beta labour and the main motivation of that labour is sex. Without it these men won't work and consume enough to sustain the economy, which will result in huge economic problems and recession. Also, civil unrest, possibly violent. What society could do is deal with the problem by removing the ways it transfers mens money to women. Remove unfair divorce and child support laws, welfare, gender quotas, legalize financial abortion etc. This will make women prioritize stability more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:43 PM
3

-. -
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:36 PM
5

.... Why? Killing isn't respectable yet movies are full of it and we find them enjoyable. A man masturbating in private isn't comparable to a woman peddling her sexuality to strangers for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:32 PM
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Why would it be funny? We find it hot, not respectable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:25 PM
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That they are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:22 PM
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Pathetic and shameful profession. Let's hope they at least have the decency to never have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:17 PM
2

Naivety has that effect on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:12 PM
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If she desires other men, she doesn't desire hubby. Women are SERIALLY monogamous, not polyandrous. They aren't men. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/d53tvy/is_female_sexuality_actually_a_trap_for_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Nah, naive is appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:07 PM
2

I doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:05 PM
2

Did I stutter?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:38 PM
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Most sensible people aren't willing to ruin a marriage for a quick night. You haven't seen the cheating rates then. Also, I already explained how even if she doesn't cheat, it's still a huge problem. People who aren:t narcisstic can't cheat without confessing at some point. Naive. You like most of trp are focusing on a trashy demographic of women AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:38 PM
2

2
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:35 PM
2

Take a number ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:34 PM
2

And we call these countries, shitholes. I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:32 PM
1

Back at ya
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:31 PM
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A woman cheating also knows the effect of it will have on her relationship If she is cheating she doesn't care about the effect it will have on her relationship. As for reputation, haven't you noticed how much women's cheating is blamed on the man?"He was working a lot, was distant" Etc. Etc. And that's assuming she is even found out. If a woman is a with a partner, he usually becomes her best option to her. He is the best option.... Until he isn't. Thats literally the point of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:31 PM
2

I'd rather my taxes went to a good cause than some corrupt politician's deep pockets My sweet summer child. You think corrupt politicians will take less money in order to fund your socialism? They'll just make you pay the extra cost. Constitutions can be amended whenever It's quite the Involved process. Literally the point of the Constitution and what separates it from common laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:27 PM
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Not only are women actively rewarded with money and gifts for not sticking with that investment but also, the point of hypergamy is attraction. If she interacts with a man she perceives as "better" than you, she will stop being (sexually) attracted to you and be attracted to that dude. Even if for some reason she controls herself and doesn't actually cheat, the above still is catastrophic for the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:23 PM
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That's why we like voting for people who make more legal rights, not less Lol, that's such short sighted logic.Every right you get costs money and may also be used against you. Also surprise, your fundamental rights can be taken away by the law to That's the point of the Constitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:19 PM
1

Yeah. The women men fuck casually are uglier than those they have relationships with and marry, because men have more leverage in these dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:07 PM
1

The dichotomy isn't that. It's "I pumped and dumped the hot women but chose you because you are hot, low n and have home making skills".AF/BB is a thing because the traits that make a man sexually attractive are antagonistic with those that build comfort (husband material).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:48 PM
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Yeah.... Sex drive is a mental health problem..... For a junkie, drugs are a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:44 PM
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The man's input is needed for anything to happen. The man's input was for sex, not necessarily for pregnancy. If that's your reasoning, then by that logic abortion isn't needed too. She can just not get pregnant after all 🤷‍♂️ It's not the woman's decision whether the man pays child support It is. She aborts, he doesn't pay. She doesn't abort, he pays. he can choose to care for the child and then he won't have to He will. The custodial parents are required to pay too, even if it's a smaller amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:56 AM
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No, it's completely her decision. I could want the child and she can abort it without asking me. I might not want the child and she can have it anyway. The man's input is irrelevant. I didn't say there was a gender specific reason, .... So why did you bring it up? child support isn't even gender specific. That's the point whether the man pays child support or not is her decision. She chooses whether she'll have the kid or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:12 AM
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It does. Puberty brings about a fuckton of hormonal changes. Before puberty I didn't even know what sex was. After puberty, I was an addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:08 AM
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You are mistaking fundamental rights with legal rights. ANYTHING can be a legal right. The "right" in Europe is in general access to healthcare. Which procedures are covered by that healthcare isn't a right and can be changed by any change in the law. Abortions included. There isn't any reasoning for abortions to be a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:07 AM
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It's their joint decision to have sex in their first place, and their joint decision to choose who cares for it. But HER decision whether they'll have a child or not. No, there isn't any gender specific reason women are fined for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:57 AM
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Yes. What does this have to do with a specific procedure being a right? Healthcare refers to access to legal medical procedures.Not illegal ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:55 AM
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No, they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:30 AM
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She can exercise that right by not getting pregnant. A medical procedure isn't a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:26 AM
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So.... don't get pregnant. Bodily autonomy means you can do whatever you wish with your body. It doesn't mean a medical professional should be allowed to do whatever procedure he wants with it. For example, making a genetically modified army of cloned mini me's is illegal but not against my bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:02 AM
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If the father looks after the baby, the mother pays him for them. Whether the baby is born in the first place is HER decision. No one is forcing any expenses on her. It's her choice. Women, too, can be unfairly fined or successfully sued for money they don't owe. No, they can't? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:59 AM
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(you'd need to earn a lot to pay thousands) .... No. It's 18years.Even if you take the average child support monthly payment of about 400$ , you reach the thousands in only a year. if the father keeps the baby, In his womb? What are you talking about? The father cant "keep the baby".Whether the kid is born is entirely up to the woman's decision. made to pay money unfairly more generally. When?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:33 AM
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Difference is women are made to pay a few hundred bucks (the cost of abortion) while men are made to pay thousands. I have no idea how that's comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:25 AM
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Abortion has nothing to do with bodily autonomy. A medical procedure being illegal doesn't have anything to do with bodily autonomy. Anyway, women are able to absolve themselves of parental responsibility both with abortion and with safe haven laws. Until men are also given that option, women's complaints sound amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:24 AM
4

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:04 AM
2

You get it!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:23 AM
1

Sure you don't ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:58 AM
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That's how women think.. It's called preselection. Men's reaction to it ranges from "nice bonus" to "great, now I have to mate guard more".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:48 AM
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Yeah, this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:14 PM
3

Didnt we already agree that the "men care bout n-count" discussion is over? Smh...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:40 PM
1

6
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:38 PM
1

Unless the chick is drunk or something, casual sex is how the woman tries to get a higher value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:40 PM
1

No, I'm saying that women don't have sex with men they don't want more from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:27 PM
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no，woman has much more options than man，she can have casual sex with multiple man，then choose the best one to start a relationship，or choose no one，and wait for the next option That's not how women date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:06 PM
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If she's had sex with you, she wants a relationship with you. Which means once you pass the gate of sex (which she gatekeeps) , you get to the gate of the relationship (which the man gatekeeps).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 03:46 PM
2

Puberty
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:49 AM
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And you have other concerns because the hormones that cause sexual desire are weaker at that age. Nature designed it well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:31 AM
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It wasn't so much that they fought to end slavery. It was more that the South fought to keep slavery. Plus other economic tensions. 40% being pro choice doesn't mean they would go to war for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:41 AM
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It's because I can get women that aren't fat 😎. You'd look better without the thick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:05 PM
2

Bad decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:55 PM
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And you would be right.... if women went to war. This is a women's issue. While women's issues are being prioritized by every mainstream venue, violent escalation isn't a concern for them. I find it more likely for a schism to appear for economical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:54 PM
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Yes but not because of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:38 PM
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Roe v Wade's been around for a long time with no issues. If anyone is getting up in arms it would be the Democrats and men aren't gonna go to war for abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 07:38 PM
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Lol, who will go to war for abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:38 PM
1

Who's your Daddy? Edit:No you morons, IM your Daddy. Smh...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:50 PM
3

Education isn't important, income is. Men outearn women in every age group
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:41 PM
3

Women and whining, name a more iconic duo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:47 AM
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My guess is that you’ll fuck anything that moves, Anything above a 5 but you’ll only marry a virgin, right? I'll only marry a low n chick. Virginity, while preferred, isn't mandatory. You’ll beg women for sex (since you said your imperative is to get sex as soon as possible), Lol, I don't beg for sex. I demand sex and if she doesn't comply she is of no interest to me. The rest is senseless drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:46 AM
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Becoming shredded obviously. What's harder losing fat or losing fat and building muscle?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:37 AM
3

Reread the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:35 AM
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She's not attracted to the dude anymore. Now the lingerie thing might not necessarily be that she is cheating, it does seem possible that she has gotten too fat for them, but it is suspicious. Frame and dread would fix all of his issues. Unfortunately for him, he is a good dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:50 AM
1

I would be ok with number 2
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:45 AM
3

But I'll ask the women first since I that's who I'm trying to date This should be fun
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:24 AM
5

Wait, are you saying kids and adults have the same needs? Are you familiar with the concept of puberty?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:21 AM
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Eeeh, the criticisms seem mostly to be that ovulation doesn't change the what traits women find attractive but instead how they prioritize sexual attraction. Women in their fertile stage prioritize sexual attraction more compared to women in their non fertile stage. Which actually supports the dual mating strategy hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:15 AM
2

My dick is generous and giving 😇.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:55 AM
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I feel like trapping a woman who's more naturally promiscuous in a monogamous relationship only causes issues further down the road where she feels trapped and cheats. It's better to accept promiscuous people for who they are IMO No one is forcing her to get in a relationship. If she wants to be promiscuous there are countless men willing to offer her just that. She is the one trying to fit in something she isn't suited for. Some men seem relatively happy with their partner sleeping around. Cuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:54 AM
2

Yes. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:40 AM
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By having 10 long term relationships each lasting exactly a year, one after the other? I guess it's possible but it's high unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:40 AM
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Yeah I would say low 7.I feel women underestimate "7" as a rating. 7 means "your regular hot girl". 6 means " Cute " . 8 means model tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:38 AM
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It's a self inflicted problem however, it's not like men didn't warn them not to do it. I wouldn't say it's comparable to being short or even ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:07 AM
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Woman, half your face is hidden by your phone :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:05 AM
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A person who’s already high-n can’t though is was I’m saying. Then they should have thought not to be one. Doesn't change the fact that it's a mutable characteristic. It’s an insecurity thing. What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:04 AM
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They can't stop feeling promiscuous but they can stop ACTING promiscuous. When men worry about n count because of infidelity, they're selecting for those immutable traits. ? You mean they are selecting against them I guess. Yes they are but they are selecting against traits that are incompatible with relationships. No one would complain if women were vetting out traits of cheaters for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:03 AM
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My imperative is to get sex as soon as possible. It's your job as the sexual selectors to keep me from doing that. With feminism making the modern dating market as it is,keeping sex from a man isn't something they can afford. Any man with options will just choose the woman that doesn't do that. What women should do is learn to choose to sleep with men that see them seriously, without making him wait too long. you complain about n-counts but also want sex without commitment (ie high n-count) No, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:59 AM
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And high-body count women will continue to easily enter relationships and get married, even to “high-value” men, especially if she’s attractive. Meanwhile, marriage is at a historical low 🤷‍♂️ Remember it’s men who are out here buying used panties, buying the bath water of porn stars, spending their hard earned money on Only-Fans, buying women’s farts in a jar, paying women to talk to them, and much more. Are these men the men women want? Or even the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:54 AM
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.... So it's mutable. You can keep it low.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:51 AM
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Women have really bad taste in women. They tend to like more angular/masculine faced women than men do. The freckles and lack of tits and ass also don't help her. Still attractive though so about low 7 As for you, I'm still not fully convinced if you are attractive due to photo posing or just in general :P.If your photo looks are more representative than the videos I would say you are indeed on par with that chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:51 AM
2

Low 7.Possibly high 6
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:57 AM
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Incels bitch about height preferences because it's an immutable trait. Can't say the same about n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:54 AM
1

You mean the overwhelming majority of men. Are you saying the overwhelming majority of men will marry any woman that comes their way? And if they do, are these the men women want to marry? That is your subjective opinion. Not a fact. Is it? Why would someone that has options and wants to invest in a woman, choose a woman thats unattractive for investment? This does not negate the fact that what men say contradicts what they do. I already explained how it doesn't. The rest of the comment is mindl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:49 AM
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Not every man has enough options to follow his preferences. There will always be men desperate enough to marry any woman. There will also always be men that don't care about n count because they arent actually investing in the woman and just cheat on them. I just doubt these are the men women want.... Men proceed to try to attract women by being successful, boasting about their income, buying fancy cars, spending money on women, etc For some men, that's they only way they can attract women. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:16 AM
1

But I don't want to do this. I'm just drawing your line of thinking to it's logical conclusion 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:11 AM
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It's propaganda. I doubt it's effectiveness. It's like fat shaming, no matter how much they whine about how should men want to have sex with fat women, it just doesn't translate into reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:09 AM
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I'm aware of the study but it has been posted multiple times before here and I consider it common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:06 AM
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A woman can just drop a child in a police station anonymously. So, no that's not the reason behind the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:06 AM
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Code of Ur nammu, the oldest surviving law code we have: If a man violates the right of another and deflowers the virgin wife of a young man, they shall kill that male. If the wife of a man followed after another man and he slept with her, they shall slay that woman, but that male shall be set free. [§4 in some translations] If a man proceeded by force, and deflowered the virgin female slave of another man, that man must pay five shekels of silver. (5) Doesn't strike me as particularly pro-promi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:04 AM
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They had been punishing it throughout human history,when men had power, explicitly and now they do implicitly by not marrying them. This illustrates how ingrained that preference is to men. And yes of course it's relevant for biological reasons (paternity uncertainty)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:44 AM
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Once they stop being sluts, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:39 AM
5

Reread the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:39 AM
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Yes, making yourself unattractive to the gender you are romantically interested is a good idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:38 AM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:37 AM
5

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:35 AM
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You are underestimating how easy it is for a man to fake being a provider and overestimating how hard it is for him to fake being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:33 AM
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Well, I'm 25ish, so we'll see
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:30 AM
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I'm too young for that. As a dude, I got time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:19 AM
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Yeeeah, I have my doubt these are the only women we are gonna find😂 Something something something single motherhood is at an all time high. Seems like my prediction is more accurate than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 12:00 AM
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They don't stop doing it because they are actively being brainwashed not to stop doing it. They are being told by every media outlet ever that only unattractive men care about it and that it will have no impact on them. The stats say otherwise. If anyone thinks height isn't something that majorly affects a man's attractiveness and sexual success, I question his capability for complex thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:58 PM
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Most of those UMC sorority women hooking up in college end up with UMC guys who were hooking up in college They end up with the UMC guys who were hooking up and now cheat on them. The ones who are more loyal end up with low n chicks. Are you really seeing those UMC sorority women that used to hook up marrying low N STEM nerds? Happens as they near the wall, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:44 PM
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Hmm, you are correct. Modern society has progressed enough that investing in a single woman is no longer needed. Your kids have high chances of surviving anyway. So the optimal strategy is for men to impregnate any woman they can and not commit to any of them. The genes of those who do will live on and create evolutionary adapted kids! ! !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:42 PM
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Can even be at your house
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:34 PM
3

Well, if you haven't fucked before I would still suggest you go for a drink first. No need to call it a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:33 PM
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There are enough desperate men for most women to end up married. The question is on the quality of their relationships. Their cheating and divorce rates suggest it's not very good. The high n men that marry high n women aren't committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:32 PM
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No, it means "has sex outside of relationships"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:21 PM
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Yes but in a way that makes sluts look more loyal than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:20 PM
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Half correct. Thats obviously not the only solution to the problem. Having a society that doesn't treat men like second class citizens and that's incentivising marriage instead of women's inane wants would also achieve that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:18 PM
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Ask her on a date (drinks) , go on date, kiss her, move things to your house, bang. Don't draw out the conversation via text and just schedule the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:15 PM
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Please be trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:13 PM
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Lie detectors don't work. But like I said, the lying makes it so the effect is UNDERreported because women lie DOWN about their n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:12 PM
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I think that most say that they don’t want promiscuous women, but that most of them will accept promiscuous women as long as she was overall less promiscuous than him. First of all, that's a baseless assumption and most importantly, it doesn't mean they don't WANT a low n woman. As shown in the study, men find a woman being a slut unattractive for LTRs. One of the most unattractive qualities in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:06 PM
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No, the number matters. Upwards a certain number she is a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:03 PM
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And you are wrong to disagree, what I'm saying is fact. Being able to get abortion has nothing to do with bodily autonomy. You can do whatever you want with your body, doesn't mean anyone has to make it legal for doctors to perform a medical operation. Just like Its illegal for a doctor to take my sperm and create an army of of genetically perfect mini mes. The government wouldn't go for that because men are second class citizens and women aren't. How does it not make it 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:02 PM
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Not how correlation works dude. This is basic statistics. When they measure correlation they measure whether the variance is due to an unrelated factor (random) or whether it's due to the effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:59 PM
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And if it was something unrelated, it wouldn't correlate with cheating. Also , I'm pretty sure they specifically mention cheating in some of the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:50 PM
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Isn't that pretty clear? Sluts cheat more, there are multiple studies on it. If anythingthe fact that they lie means the effect is even MORE pronounced in reality because cheating sluts would lie and register with lower n women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:46 PM
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Like I said, historical low and still falling. This isn't a promiscuous woman problem only. But women don't care about mens n count however. Also, high n in men is correlated with higher attractiveness. So the cheating is mostly a result of more opportunity and less about the n count.Same can't be said for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:43 PM
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Behavior, relationship history, your friends, bumping into male "acquaintances",lifestyle etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:40 PM
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Uh, sorry my mistake. WILL give it away. Who you fuck doesn't happen in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:29 PM
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Yes. Doesn't mean that some particular trait was selected. effectiveness if they immediately choose the thing that sets their progeny up for a head start on the changes and probably a millenia of advantage And what advantage is there to having kids with a slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:28 PM
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As shown in the study, no. Men don't want relationships with women that sleep around. Those that couple with women that do despite that clearly unattractive quality, do so because they have no options or because they don't plan to stay monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:24 PM
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This doesn't really say much -The argument is that the prevalence of n count in society is making marriage rates fall. Which does follow from how marriage rates have been plummeting now that women are promiscuous. It's a societal change, not an individual one. -The argument also wasn't that a slut won't be able to get married. It's about the quality of the marriage (which is also supported by the divorce and cheating rates of high n women) . There are enough desperate or cheating men for sluts t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:18 PM
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That would still leave safe haven laws. Also, again, abortion isn't a bodily autonomy issue. As for 50/50 split, that's simple. Just allow both abortion and financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:09 PM
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Reread my previous comment slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:03 PM
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.... Which guys? Things were POLYGYNOUS not polygamous. Big difference. Evolution doesn't care about others genes being selected. It cares about YOUR genes being selected.Your model defies how natural selection works. Evolution also doesn't change fast enough for the technology of today to affect it. Maybe in many thousand years you'll be right (doubtful since high n women are also more likely to cheat and divorce) but until then, men don't want high n women. The hunter gatherers weren't particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:03 PM
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Gay I didn't say anything about race. I said men are second class citizens. Allowing abortion and women to avoid their parental duties while not giving men the option to do so IS unequal treatment. You don't have to get pregnant for this to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:55 PM
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I don't care about the exact number. U care about whether she is a slut or not. It doesn't matter to me if it's 15 or 75,they are both disqualified for anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:53 PM
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8 in the close ups. 7 in some angles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:49 PM
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Yep, exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:48 PM
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Uh? If she is low n she won't fail in the "testing"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:48 PM
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Holdings my breath! Well, I'm taking advantage of them don't you worry. Black women and transmen aren't second class citizens . Abortion isn't an issue of bodily autonomy. In fact, as I mentioned it was another way they were being favored (and still are apparently in some states) over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:47 PM
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Her behavior, stories, social media, relationship history, her friends, her lifestyle etc. Etc. They can all give it away. Who you fuck doesn't happen in a vacuum
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:23 PM
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Men care to varying degrees. Considering it was the second most undesirable quality they could think of, they must care quite a lot. because the strongest influence on us evolving to obsess about virgins was quite clearly in the Bronze Age and early Iron Age to avoid murderous aggression from other men who want to win her back. Goes even further back to paternity uncertainty. If you invested in a woman that slept around, you risked taking care of a child that wasn't yours and this your genes dyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:22 PM
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Marriage reach all time lows because women have sex. Women have always had sex But they didn't have sex with bad lot of different men. I can see if you said marriage rates are falling maybe due to factors like people are buying less houses, wedding cost rising, etc. Marriage rates had been declining even before all that. but instead your argument is those stats prove that men who say they don’t care actually do care Yes taken together that's what my arguments prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:16 PM
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Her behavior, stories, social media, relationship history, her friends, her lifestyle etc. Etc. They can all give it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:11 PM
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Empty platitude. We aren't monogamous creatures evolutionary but that is the only way for advanced societies to work.It also doesn't mean that men ever rewarded female promiscuity. Social norms can't shift evolution that fast. Glad you get it. Women aren't second class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:09 PM
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It's over, get over it. Men don't like high ns.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:04 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:01 PM
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Why? They are saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:55 PM
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And yet as shown in the study, you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:55 PM
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They were mostly monogamous and ESPECIALLY compared to today. Differences were mostly tied to lower opportunities due to lower population density. No, differences were due to social enforcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:53 PM
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Literally take any government course or read any history about any ruling class. Call it conspiracy I call it common knowledge on the subject. Literally take any evolutionary psychology class 🤷‍♂️ It’s pretty obvious that we haven’t isn’t it? Thankfully we've managed it with men's aversion towards investing in female promiscuity. Where do you find the authority to claim me as wrong and you as right in the context of the future. I find it in the data I've provided and my superior intellect. Divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:52 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:44 PM
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It might shock you but there are adult virgins too. Anyway, no one said anything about virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:44 PM
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There are three sources on it, one from 2002.That plus all the other arguments and evidence I presented SHOULD make it a moratorium. But hamster's gonna hamster I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:43 PM
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Very scientific take. Excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:40 PM
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You can get them to admit it but you still have to deceive them by playing the cuck and not being judgemental to do so. And even then don't trust a low answer because some women are more savvy than others. So seriously…, do you guys know for sure girls were lying to you? Have you had real experience with that? Yeah, I've caught a lot of women lying. Dude, they even lie in anonymous surveys, what makes you think they won't lie to a man they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:40 PM
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Nice conspiracy I guess. Did you think we have traced every single evolutionary mechanism of the human psyche? They will. Just not in the direction you think. No, the laws and the courts are simply against men. Divorce, child support, lack of financial abortion, sexual assault laws etc. Etc. They all are specifically designed to fuck over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:37 PM
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Well, as I already illustrated in the OP, men care about n counts. A lot. Marriage also has reached historical lows now that women are more promiscuous. You make the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:33 PM
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How did she manage to get 10 LONG TERM relationships? Women don't get high ns from relationships. No, the why doesn't matter . The number does. It shows she is no longer "rare" and exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:30 PM
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Maybe you can't do better dude 🤷‍♂️Fuck would I know? If you have zero idea what a woman’s n-count is, and she says 0, what can you use to tell otherwise? Her behavior, stories, her social media, her lifestyle, her friends etc. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:28 PM
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The term sexual fidelity,which was what was used,refers to only having sex in a relationship or marriage. So again, please be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:26 PM
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I didn't elaborate because you didn't justify your statements in any way. 1) These are the actual reasons for divorce 2) -. - in the 50s they didn't lose their virginity because they were promiscuous. They lost their virginity because they got married and had kids. 3) then the girl isn’t “sleeping around” She is someone that sleeps around. Holy hamster. Also, what are we considering a high n count? 1? 3? 7? 10? 30? Somewhat subjective but for most, double digits and up. Is this based on biology …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:23 PM
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-. - Please be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:14 PM
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Virginity isn’t only based in Christianity It's not. But there have been societies where virginity wasn't valued but promiscuity was still punished. What there hasn't been is a society where men don't punish promiscuity and still invest in their women and children. Which is what? Hard to say. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology_of_religion I don’t see much wrong with that? Invest in what you would deem worth your time and effort. And women have made it so that men don't find …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:13 PM
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Well virginity was the main shame for women being promiscuous. In Christianity. Well so is religion did we evolve to believe made up fairytales about people in the sky? There definitely was an evolutionary mechanism that pushed us towards religion. Ohhhh my favorite part, “what evidence is there for that?” :) Yes, it's quite an important part. do believe I meant in the context that we haven’t really seen the full potential of what those rights will bring So far they've made men not want to inves…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:00 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:48 PM
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Virginity wasn't the issue. Not being slut was. And we all just happened to be taught to hate sluts throughout all of history and across cultures for no evolutionary reason? Why hasn't there been a slut-celebrating society? The argument is.... Weak. Look back to the year 1820 and take a peak at how different life and society norms were as opposed to now They'll be different. Just not in the way you seem to think. They were recently given those rights in the last 100 years Yes. But you literally …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:48 PM
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cited as a problem in most divorces. No. Young people are actually less promiscuous now than ever. No, they aren't. Are the people of today less promiscuous than those of the 1950s? You are also equating “sleeping around” and having a high n count (depending on what you consider high). Yes, that's literally what n count means. Sleeping with a lot of dudes. Sleeping around” implies lack of commitment and overly risky behavior. That's how you get a high n. Women likely find it as unappealing as me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:42 PM
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Yes, it's usually double digits and up counts that men have a problem with. Basically, dont be public property.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:39 PM
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Slut country
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:38 PM
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I kid you not, everywhere. You are more likely to find a man that wants a relationship with you if you pick at random than you are to find someone that wants only a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:33 PM
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Not weird at all. Some men are desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:31 PM
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Lmao what? No that’s a social thing not a evolution thing. It's evolution. Men have been that way since literally the dawn of history and across cultures. Very brave of you to state such a thing. Societies don’t change overnight, I’m thinking a bit as a futurist. 200 years or so. What evidence is there of that? Rights to vote, rights to own land, rights to have a bank account, rights to start a business, able to learn to read, and to go to schools, and seek college, rights to join the military, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:30 PM
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these opinions - what people try to teach you is that most normal people are not here on these forums arguing about dating. As a total slut who has been in many relationships, only on Reddit do men actually complain about this shit. Real men actually have a life. That's because you have bad observational skills. As shown in the OP, you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:28 PM
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I'm in a relationship though 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:27 PM
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I don’t believe you because studies say this” I would be busted. Thankfully, women are idiots. Terrible advice, a lot of men genuinely really don’t care, we don’t gotta do mental gymnastics about things we find hard to believe And yet as shown, you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:27 PM
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Difficult to find men that don’t just want one night stands. Not at all. It's very easy actually. You just don't find them attractive. And one of the reasons they dont want more than a pump and dump is that the woman aren't worth more than that. To get someone to invest in you, you have to be attractive to him. Which as shown, includes not being a slut. But a woman who’s had sex 10 times with 10 people is heavily judged. So odd. Yes because only one other dude had access to the 1st one while 10o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:26 PM
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Sluts aren't banging the sexless 😂Women being shamed for having casual sex means MORE sex for more men, because they would focus on relationships and more men get sex that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:22 PM
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I’m a promiscuous man and ion think promiscuity is unattractive. It's unattractive for LTRs. And yes you do think that, you evolved to think that. You just don't because you don't plan to be monogamous. I do think society is kinda moving past the old conservative ways of doing things. As seen by the evidence I put forth in the OP, you are wrong to think that. Rights that they have never had i think we will get to see an interesting way society bends to the needs of those unbound. Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:20 PM
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Oh, you (general you) are ruined regardless of our own n count . I do not think your traits deserve to be passed on. Thankfully, it's not up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:18 PM
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Yes but now we have evidence that men in general don't want it, something women here have been denying. Because they are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:16 PM
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Cheating is nothing new, and isn't limited to the wealthy. But it's more likely. The more money a man has, the more likely he is to be married in a relative sense. And cheat. And I haven't seen any evidence they are particularly married to high n women either. Already conceded that financial situation isn't the only way to measure a value, but then what measure are you referring to Desirability and willingness to be loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:15 PM
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Meh,They don't divulge it anyway and men still find out. You have an infinitely long list of stupid and counterproductive things you judge men with, we are allowed to have our MUCH shorter one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:12 PM
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We are! So we just bang you 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:10 PM
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The wealthy are a small percentage of the population. Most importantly they marry for economic reasons and bang chicks on the side. So technically, they ARE getting married 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:56 PM
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Lol or just believe people when they tell you who they are Yes , we call that naivety. Like I said, look at the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:54 PM
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You can have as much sex as you want. Just don't do it with many different people because men will find you not worth investing in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:52 PM
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Well, yeah desperate men have little leverage to negotiate otherwise. I doubt however that's the kind of men women want. It also doesn't mean they don't care. They care but they can't do otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:51 PM
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One of the reasons we think it's a scam is that modern women are sluts ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:50 PM
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Its never gonna be zero, there are always desperate men. But it's already rapidly declining and the men of value especially are gonna opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:48 PM
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Want me to add them to the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:46 PM
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Many of us low n women have said men never asked us about our count What's the point of asking? She is always gonna give a low answer.You just find out without asking. A bunch of high n women on here are married. To whom however? Not all men are desirable enough to filter for n count. Not all men stop fucking other women when they get married. If men are caring they don’t seem to be showing it in any obvious way. Like I said, marriage rates and literally all of human history. And as shown by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:46 PM
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In 3.5 seconds. People be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:40 PM
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Men work more hours than women. Thats their contribution to the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:40 PM
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Yes but this time there is evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:39 PM
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This hasn't been posted before as far as I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:26 PM
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Uh? You think social trends are instantaneous?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:25 PM
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Childless unmarried women in large cities outearn their male counterparts No, childless young women under 30 outearn their male counterparts (and I'm not sure even about that because I've only seen one source claiming it) . Every other age group doesn't. You understand I hope the amount of gymnastics required to make that claim. The issue seems to be that millennial men are feigning a desire for and belief in equality until the bill comes due They don't particularly. It's women who demand this, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:23 PM
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Why are women jerking each other off so much? Women are now the backbone of the workforce: In 2018, 74 men earned bachelor degrees for every 100 women And yet men outearn women in every age group. Some 64% of women are now bread-winners or equal earners in their households. This percentage includes single mothers. Yes,she is the breadwinner in a household consisting of her and her 5yo -. - In married couples men make more money in 70% of cases with the wealth disparity being larger in that 70% t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:03 PM
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The low n chick is more likely to be satisfied and be attracted to the average guy she ends up with. The CC rider isn't, due to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:53 PM
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😢
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:20 PM
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Hmmmmmmmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:17 PM
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And what they say upfront Is in no way binding. They can say one thing and do another when the shit hits the fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:24 PM
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I doubt it. They don't know I'm RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:22 PM
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I love that whenever I have ppd related convos with female friends irl, they can actually make arguments that somewhat make sense and that have some semblance of grasp in reality. PPD is honestly making me a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:35 PM
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Poland?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:25 PM
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I would say it's behavior that BECOMES ingrained.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:27 PM
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Well, anyone who says sex isn't important is brain dead so I doubt that's the only inconsistent view they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:39 AM
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Point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:08 AM
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But how is that shittiness expressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:05 AM
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I haven't noticed that behavior only with suitors. I've noticed it with their friendships and acquaintances too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:04 AM
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I'm not saying the correlation is absolute. But it does seem to exist to at least some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:02 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:01 AM
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Hmmm, interesting. It's possible that the being so attractive is such a bizarre situation that it's hard to predict how it'll affect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:00 AM
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Uh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:58 AM
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These traits can also be rated as a scale, from most flaky to least flaky for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:57 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:56 AM
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Point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:56 AM
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That's a fair assessment. I considered that as an alternative too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:56 AM
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I wouldn't say being positive excludes being selfish. She might be pleasant and positive.... And still expect things to always go her way or have her wants met.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:55 AM
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I would agree. I'm not saying that the correlation is absolute but looks play a huge role in how someone's life plays out. I find it unlikely they aren't a huge influence in someones personality in some way. I'm just ambivalent on how exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:52 AM
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You are the one making the hypothetical. You believe that she will abort, reality might say otherwise. Fact is you aren't protected by abortion in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:49 AM
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Men prefer these things but my question is how good or bad personality traits correlate with women's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 08:46 AM
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I'd be ecstatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:33 AM
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Yeah, these are the chicks I was referring to too. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:31 AM
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Comparatively to uglier women. It's a theory, like I said I'm not settled on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:29 AM
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Oh attractive chicks cheat too but I think the motivation is somewhat different a lot of times. As for average women, they would be somewhere in the middle of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:27 AM
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The world is kind to these women because of their looks and because their base nature is also to be kind, they end up being super nice optimistic bubbly people Hmm, I don't see however how this is mutually exclusive with being flaky/selfish/bratty.Like , she is nice optimistic and bubbly.... But she also does whatever she wants, doesn't respect other's time, expects people to try to conform to her needs etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:25 AM
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They're happier, more intelligent, have better interests, are more outgoing, have healthier habits, etc. But are they also more selfish/flaky/bratty? Or are they just plain better?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:19 AM
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But how do looks factor in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:17 AM
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While that makes sense, Ive noticed this even with acquaintances/friends and not just with women Im dating. It's not like women in LTRs don't leave their house.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:15 AM
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Hmm, interesting. Insecurity is however quite the feminine thing so the question is are they MORE insecure than the uglier chicks or less?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:13 AM
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Her entire life has been about her looks. She then becomes dependent on them and not by choice. Yes but her looks aren't really ever in question. Past a certain point she knows she is hot as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:03 AM
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Possibly but I don't care much about men :P
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:01 AM
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What she says is irrelevant. She might say she doesn't want kids and then decide she wants to keep it when she actually gets pregnant. You have no input on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:00 AM
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Like calm down I'm not an 8, I'm a 6 who smiles and says hi to you. For a lot of men, that's rare. But that doesn't really answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:58 AM
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I include condoms when i say birth control. I don’t actually get why men would have casual sex without using a condom, even if abortion is legal, it’s not like he’d know she’d do that either… Yep, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:44 AM
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The option to terminate protects HER. Not you. You have no say in whether she'll have an abortion or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:43 AM
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Good luck with that. Anyway, he asked about how he would have sex without abortion. He would just use birth control. Abortion doesn't protect him in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:26 AM
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Ugh, model tier women are such a bother. They always have some crazy dude hanging around them. I think that she isn't over the ex (I give it a 70% chance) and that you'll get in a fight with the dude (I give it an 80% ).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:22 AM
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Mine is the notion that he as a man can have sex without a condom and be protected by abortion. Like dude, it's completely up to her whether she'll abort or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:18 AM
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Birth controls sometimes fail. Something very rare.If you are that paranoid, use a condom too. How do you think abortion would protect you from a birth control failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:15 AM
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....That's called scarcity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:12 AM
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AWALT is about the ubiquity of female sexuality, not about behavior. All women are only attracted to the best man that interacts with them but this doesn't mean that they will necessarily cheat or branch swing if they lose attraction to you. As for preselction, its pretty much scientifically proven to work. She'll get hurt.... But she'll also want you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:43 PM
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But if neither of us want kids, especially with each other, do anti-abortion people think we’re supposed to have sex? ....With birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:29 PM
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It's about abundance. If you don't have other options, your horny pushes you to develop feelings for the woman. If you have more options your horny allows you to consider other factors as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:27 PM
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Making an effort to hit on chicks but failing for a long time. He is an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:25 PM
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Outlawing a procedure that can be medically necessary makes it a fair bit easier to find doctors who will do the procedure in an emergency. Wut? What do you do then? You hope to find a doctor that's willing to risk his livelihood and hope your right to privacy is enough for no one to find out. My argument isn't about whether abortion should be illegal. IMO it should certainly be legal in medical emergencies and I see no reason for it to not be legal up to a certain point in the pregnancy (up to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:24 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:14 PM
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https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/7/1/lsaa006/5841599 Without the FDA’s approval, implantation of a genetically modified human embryo is illegal in the USA. It seems that without FDA approval, it's illegal for a doctor to perform these procedures. At least from what I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:13 PM
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It's a question of whether I would ride her to battle or put her on my shoulder like Pikachu. I would date the 4' chick and marry the 7' chick
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:47 PM
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Clear and present danger to who? Anyone that felt endangered could get vaccinated. Anyway, as you can see, not apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:45 PM
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It bans the FDA from allowing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:38 PM
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I've addressed every point in those comments. If you don't have a counter argument or have trouble reading, it's not really my problem. Privacy for medical decisions doesn't mean that all medical procedures are legal. This isn't my belief. It's fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:37 PM
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Essentially, privacy of medical records means only the doctor, patient, and other medical professionals know that the potentially illegal procedure occurred. Sure, but they can still outlaw the procedure. So you would have to find a doctor willing to do the procedure in secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:34 PM
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No one is forcing anyone to get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:31 PM
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Read it slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:26 PM
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Good, and if you don't get laid for a while, you might qualify as incel. I'll pray for your ascension.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:24 PM
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It isn't privacy. The government doesn't have to allow every medical procedure to be legal. You can choose to do or not do every legal procedure you want. But I can't take my sperm and make an army of generically perfect mini-mes because thats an illegal procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:23 PM
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Being punished by the government for not getting one is enforcement of it. Anyway, weren't Democrats pushing for it to be mandatory?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:16 PM
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I'm pro choice. I just like that abortion is banned because it might initiate a push for financial abortion. Designer babies then. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/06/04/729606539/house-committee-votes-to-continue-research-ban-on-genetically-modified-babies A congressional committee voted Tuesday to continue a federal ban on creating genetically modified babies in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:13 PM
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Privacy doesnt mean you are allowed to do something. It means you are allowed to not divulge it. I can't take my sperm and make a designer baby just because of privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:08 PM
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Did you already forget the whole vaccination debacle? Something being private doesn't mean that it's allowed. It means you can choose to not divulge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:05 PM
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Cloning
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:02 PM
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Medical privacy, as far as I know at least, doesn't have anything to do with allowing a certain procedure. It just protects the PRIVACY of your medical documents. Doesn't mean I can do whatever medical procedure I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:46 PM
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It's been that long since you last got laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:29 PM
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yep, lots of people are saying that "gay marriage is next." Hehehe 🤗 It's no longer 1776, the entire industrial, technological, and information revolutions happened. The Constitution is based on fundamental principles that don't really change with the passage of time. The US isn't a typical country, it's a collection of STATES that are supposed to be largely self governing.The Constitution is supposed to be protecting rights that are crucial for the free governance of the people. Abortion and ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:28 PM
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That abortion has nothing to do with privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:21 PM
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That's..... Equally ridiculous. Wait, doesn't that mean that gay marriage is also on the line? Edit:The Constitution and the US adherence to it is actually one of the best parts of your country. It's not that it is outdated, it's that modern sensibilities have become utterly ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:20 PM
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Seriously though, how did roe vs Wade even become a thing in the first place? The "privacy" defense is completely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:12 PM
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AND the standards for physical attractiveness she has would be lower because of racial differences . Possibly the standards for personality too. So there is also even a good chance for her to be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:09 PM
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Well, my main objection is that it's too early to make comparisons. There is also the issue of where do you, draw the line. Why just Europe and not eurasia?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:07 PM
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Yes but abortion wasn't delegated to the states until like, a few days ago. So I wouldn't say it's exactly fair to make a comparison between the state of abortion between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:01 PM
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Letting the woman have an abortion if she wants but also allowing the man to waive child support and parental rights if he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:59 PM
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Europe doesn't have "federal laws" like the US does. The only thing somewhat close to it is EU guidelines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:57 PM
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Well, it might make at least the regulars to finally shut up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:52 PM
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Hmm, might do it tomorrow. It's probably time for the debate to end and we move on to other obvious ponderings like "do men want sex more than women? ", " Is the sky blue or green? " .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:49 PM
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Well, it's still a lower investment than getting your gf preganté.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:44 PM
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I remember seeing something like that in the past but I can't find the study. if they think it's obvious they've obviously never visited the bastion of common sense that is ppd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:42 PM
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Sure as long as he keeps trying for at least a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:39 PM
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Damn, I had been searching for that study for years now. Was there a similar one that referenced sex work as the most unattractive trait? Also, keep in mind I will be stealing that and spamming it in the n count threads
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:38 PM
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Any type of attempt, multiple times however.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:23 PM
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Making an attempt
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:10 PM
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Which one is a bigger investment? Pumping and dumping a hoe or having a relationship with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:58 PM
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Correlation doesn't mean causation. There are reasons the divorce rates are higher and they are all easy to vet for
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:55 PM
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Yes but no one cares about your shirt while the second compliment comes from the heart....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:47 PM
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Can't get laid without paying despite trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:28 PM
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Yeah men are just by their sexual and physical prowess. A man's worth is how many and how hot the women he fucks are and how many dudes he can beat up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:24 PM
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Yep, people thinking universal suffrage is good are just ahistorical and lack critical thinking. Whatever the majority thinks is good must be good!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:21 PM
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Yep, people thinking universal suffrage is good are just ahistorical and lack critical thinking. Whatever the majority thinks is good must be good!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:21 PM
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Well, the problem with that is that women are a homogenous and easily manipulated group and the majority of voters. This means that politicians can just cater to them in superficial and ultimately meaningless ways that aren't actually good for the population. From the moment women got the vote the government has been getting bigger and bigger, courts and the law system became completely biased in favor of women and men are basically second class citizens right now etc. Etc. Women have become the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:18 PM
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Hmmm, I was confused so I googled and SHOCKINGLY, it apparently means "involuntarily celibate".Wouldnt that make anyone that is involuntarily celibate.... an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:10 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:07 PM
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Hmmm, how did that get truncated into "incel"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:06 PM
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What does incel mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:31 PM
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you can, indeed, hold in your horny You can. Doesn't mean your horny isn't a priority Chad dates properly. Chad is mot sex obsessed Your friend probably doesn't know any "Chads".They fuck anything that moves. Hell, have you tried just being in love? Your horny heavily influences who you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:30 PM
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But you ARE a woman and thus wouldn't understand. For you sex is a luxury, for us it's an addiction. The male libido is incomparable to the female one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 01:00 PM
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I believe we'll get there by around 2030 too. So yeah the estimation sounds right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:10 AM
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She isnt disloyal but it also means she is no longer attracted to you. This doesn't remain true when you flip the genders
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:09 AM
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I don't think AI is advanced enough yet for such a thing to be a concern. Which is mostly why it hasn't been coded. It's not that we are afraid Dall-e will harm humans in any way. I'm sure it will start being developed once we are closer to actual AGI
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:23 AM
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Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:56 AM
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There is a recursive loop at play here where the AI learns from the error and updates itself. Yes. I'm saying that it won't be able to make errors in the direction of "killing humans" if you code it to "not kill humans".The direction it learns towards is determined by its code. Same thing for the kill switch. It won't know the kill switch is in its way when it hasn't seen it in action or has been programmed to ignore it. I don't doubt AGI will be infinitely smarter than us. I just doubt it will …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:09 AM
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I am indeed divine 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:45 AM
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Voting. It's by far the most disastrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:09 AM
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That extrapolation however is still based on "practicing" on a certain pattern. I don't see how it would know ,for example, to kill its kill switch when it has never been shut down by it. You have no Easy way of communicating "don't kill humans" to an AI. It's not like it understands words. Obviously the don't kill humans thing was a simplification. I don't think its impossible to make it recognize what a human is and then what would kill them using code. I think the main dangers of the control …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:06 AM
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They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:48 PM
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Yes, the attractive factors influence one another. Part of game for example is appearing high status.But I wouldn't say it is inaccurate or makes things more difficult to understand. There’s also the element that women won’t have respect for high status men that don’t have status in a sense that matters to her. Of course.Context and even individual variance to some degree matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:13 PM
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Status as TRP means it doesn't mean money. It means "the dude that is at the top of a hierarchy".Now as we age the money does translate somewhat into the " sexy status" but it never becomes absolute. The leader nerd in a dnd group has status in that hierarchy and if a chick is part of that hierarchy she will find him hotter, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:03 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:00 PM
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I think the control problem is exaggerated and a result of anthropomorphism. As long as you program the ai to not do certain things or have kill switches, it will be controllable. AI learns by repetition and by making mistakes if you program it to not do certain things, it won't do these because it won't be able to "practice" on them enough to conclude they are optimal. So if for example you program it to "not kill humans", it will never come to the conclusion that killing humans is an optimal s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:58 PM
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It's one of those things that worked while it was new but once people got wind of it, it got eviscerated by the cockflock. Like tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:51 PM
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Twice a week. I feel the ideal is either that or three times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:18 PM
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Haha yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:07 PM
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Yeah, what women mean by "lean body" Or "swimmers body" is just the look of a natural bodybuilder. They are just dummies and think men can just go to the gym and become like Arnold .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:59 PM
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Opportunity cost makes sense for work time, not leisure time. You weren't gonna work that hour anyway. Everyone can have as much sex as they want in a relationship. Game works wonders. Additionally, if you aren't getting as much sex as you want, just find another gf. Regardless, as long as you have sex at least weekly, the gf is MUCH cheaper than the prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 08:05 PM
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That's a nonsense way to calculate it. You weren't going to be working during the time you spend with the girl anyway. It's like saying tik tok costs me 15$/hr whenever I scroll on it and sleep 120$ per day. You also don't need to spend 50 $ a date every week. Add in that you can have sex dozens of times within a week with a girlfriend and the sex/money ratio is completely incomparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:56 PM
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Yeah, substituting regular sex with hoes is really something only the rich can afford
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:37 PM
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Lol no. The sex/money ratio isn't anywhere close to being comaprable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:36 PM
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That's my plan 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:34 PM
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Only the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:13 PM
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Aaaaand now I'm hungry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:06 PM
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I'll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:45 PM
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I am. Which means I don't want to take it up the ass. It's called self respect. I plan to introduce women to the concept at some point but I'm not very optimistic about my chances of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:34 PM
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.... You like paying more?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:27 PM
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Not for all the money in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 05:25 PM
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Uhm, right before I put it in? Obviously?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:59 PM
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I love that about women too ❤
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:57 PM
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Being a man is great biologically. No periods, strength, smarts, high libidos, mental strength, stable moods etc. Etc. It's bad from a societal perspective because we are pretty much treated like second class citizens. Also the disparity is partly because women have no idea how hard life is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:45 PM
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He is black pill
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:08 PM
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Intelligence doesn't matter for me (and I would say the overwhelming majority of men) in terms of attraction for both long term and short term relationships . I would say however that exceptionally dumb girls can get annoying after a while and probably are bad bets for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:05 PM
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B. I would say I'm successful with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:59 PM
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Probably yeah. Hotter wife AND children of our own genes? Yes please.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:32 PM
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If it wasn't for the "blackmail" no. Like I said it offers zero legal benefits to the man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:45 AM
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yeah and 9/10 times there’s someone out there that’ll marry us. only baby mama types settle for losers in that won’t and those are not the type of women ppd men supposedly want. Yes, like I said, blackmail. if it were so beneficial to women, why did women fight against it? Because the current paradigm benefits them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:47 AM
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-. - She'll call the police, they'll ask the hotel to give her the dudes personal information. How does being able to say the phrase "I defend rapists" outloud feel like? Is there any actual evidence that this is what I'm doing? Other than assumptions I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:44 AM
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Women are so goofy. And by goofy I mean dumb. ... if the roles were reversed I’d be ready to go to war for them. Is she not aware that the roles have been reversed for decades now? Men aren't allowed paper abortion, she is. I must have missed women's war parade about it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:03 PM
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She wants the baby as much ,if not more (usually more), as the dude does. Having a baby shouldn't mean a one sided deal in favor of women. With marriage 1.0 both men and women were protected, with at fault divorce. As it currently stands, only the woman has benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:58 PM
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Meanwhile women lie about it even in anonymous surveys because they clearly know that's not the case. 5 is a low number. It's double digits and up that are problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:03 PM
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But there is no assurance or protection offered by marriage that she will "belong" to him. It USED to be the case that there was but as of marriage 2.0 , there isn't. Which makes it "blackmail". It doesn't actually benefit the man in any way as an institution and he in fact would be BETTER protected if he wasn't married to her. But good women won't stay with a man that doesn't marry them, so they are forced to enter that disadvantageous position.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:01 PM
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She obviously wasn't joking, because he clearly didn't Frame it as such. You don't know. According to him, there is intentional lack of context.Could be she was joking, could be she was just unsure and then changed her mind, could be literally anything. Kinda hard to call him out if you don't know who he is or even the language he speaks. A call to his hotel and she'll know everything about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:36 PM
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No. I'm saying that marriage as an institution doesn't give men any benefits in regards to kids nor do they need it to have them. So again we go back to the "blackmail" situation I previously mentioned. She won't have kids with you without getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:30 PM
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Yes, multiple. They legitimately drove me away from professional therapy. And yet they are still in business. Also, keep in mind that most therapists are women. Don't feed me misogyny baits like that. I'm on thin ice already :P Even if only women have trouble keeping work and life separate in a field it still matters when so many people in said field are women. So thats more of an issue with women and not so much the difficulty of the job,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:27 PM
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6
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:03 PM
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What I described isn't roleplay. He literally said "if you remove all context".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:53 PM
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difficult balance to be empathetic and caring enough to be an effective therapist while also being able to not get too emotionally invested in the shitty situations of clients This is such a female thing to say. Men have zero problems not getting invested in such situations. A bad therapist can fuck up peoples lives. If you mishandle a traumatized person while they’re vulnerable they can shut down and stop seeking treatment entirely. You are overestimating how likely something like that is and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:52 PM
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Of the top of my head, she laughing while saying all that and fake-trying to get away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:24 PM
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are you saying there are trad women that are willing to have kids without marriage Did I say that traditional women are willing to have kids without marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:24 PM
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Yes. I am talking about the difficulty of the job itself, not the qualifications needed for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:22 PM
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Does he need to? Duh? There is no context in "I held a woman down to keep having sex with her after she asked me to stop" thats justifiable. There are plenty of them. You are making assumptions. The fact is that you can't know just from what he said and that he hasn't been accused of anything despite being a fairly recognizable figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:21 PM
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So she can't "use her assets" to obtain this power by proxy. Which was my original point. She has power over a lesser man. Did you think pussy power meant that every woman has ultimate power over every man? She's not going to "establish herself" if the only thing she's actually good at is sucking dick. You are GROSSLY overestimating the meritocracy of the professional world. So if they aren't that hard, why is there such a high barrier to entry? To standardize the training phase, for quality con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:16 PM
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So what if she isn't attractive? You know, like how most American women are overweight? Then she has less power. therefore, if she isn't good at her job like Harris is, her "power by proxy" will fade. Not if she has already established herself. I'd like to have seen you take one upper-level humanities course in college, let alone done any actual job that requires a college degree and isn't tech. Dollars to donuts you would have been the person in the campus writing center being taught how to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:22 PM
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The model tier looks. With the Don Juan level game, while I would still be able to fuck and have relationships, I have my doubts it would be a good idea to get married. So since that avenue is barred, the low effort sex I would be able to get as a model tier stutterfest would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:54 PM
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Abhorrent for both sides. I don't cheat on good women, I have no problem "cheating" on sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:48 PM
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That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:47 PM
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Just because guys will fuck a woman they aren't attracted to as in-case-of-emergency pussy doesn't mean Men don't find only young chicks attractive enough to fuck. Also, youth is comparative. Ah yes, le STEM, the only field that's actually difficult. All other jobs can be performed by any asshole off the street with no education or training. /s Pretty much, yes. First of all, she had to be incredibly smart in order to be in this situation where she was even within spitting distance of the DA's o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:47 PM
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The good looking dude would fuck more but wouldn't be able to keep a chick. The second dude would fuck less but have longer and better relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:36 PM
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There are. Your example however wasn't necessarily one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:34 PM
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Or your looks are compensating for your game. If you had good enough game you wouldn't need to look good to have a good sex life. Same can be said for status. It's kind of a nonsense argument. Looks, status game all matter and all factor into how attractive you are as a whole. The more you have in each of them, them more attractive you will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:29 PM
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If the dude was higher value than me. Value in women's eyes is a combination of looks, status and game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:23 PM
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😛
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:14 PM
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she has to be young and attractive That's negotiable. She is just emptying his balls after all, they aren't getting married. As for the other bullets. These aren't hard for find or fulfill criteria. Not every job is a corporate tech job. She won't have any issue doing the job. Pretty much all non tech/science jobs aren't particularly hard even the tech jobs can be performed sufficiently if she has the basic knowledge even if she wasn't the actually best candidate even a confident one. like how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:13 PM
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Change your avatar into a female one and we might work something out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:04 PM
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https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf If the woman wanted the breakup more, that is scored as “1”; if the man wanted the breakup more, that is scored as “0”; and if both partners wanted the breakup equally, that is scored as “0.5.” Table 1 shows that women accounted for 69% of the breakups of heterosexual marriages, consistent with the approximately two thirds of divorces wanted by wives reported in other studies (England and Kilbourne 1990; Sayer et al. 2011; Sweene…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:01 PM
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It's not as hot when a dude says it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:59 PM
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Not sure what you mean here. They define dual income as income through being part as the work force. I'm saying the previous stats, the ones comparing the income of divorced and single women, doesn't differentiate between divorced mothers who worked while married and those who didn't The whole premise of the argument is that they have children, else the wife would lose out on career advancement by staying at home. The premise of the argument is that the woman is somehow investing in the man's ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:58 PM
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What if there is no clear fault and both are deeply unhappy and the man simply avoids dealing with any of the issues that arise, using work as an excuse to never be present? Then she can get divorced. She'll just not get his money. The above assertions about marriage laws making everything favorable to women, ... This whole paragraph is just saying "I feel bad so you are wrong" without providing any actual arguments. What does alimony or child support have to do with "the pains of pregnancy"? Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:45 PM
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keep her as long as the contract, The contract doesn't have a time frame. She could marry you and divorce you the next day. ig kids/family You don't need to get married to have kids or a family. instead of vetting for a decent personality and loyalty. I'm pretty sure you don't know what trade quality means....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:39 PM
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keep her as long as the contract, The contract doesn't have a time frame. She could marry you and divorce you the next day. ig kids/family You don't need to get married to have kids or a family. instead of vetting for a decent personality and loyalty. I'm pretty sure you don't know what trad quality means....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:38 PM
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I would have a fairly good chance at it. I have good game.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:34 PM
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Bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:01 PM
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But it doesn't even achieve that goal of keeping the woman in its current form with no fault divorce being a thing.The reason marriage is dying is exactly that, it's an institution that completely fails men and modern women arent good enough to make it an attractive deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:55 PM
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most men get married to keep good women around. Yep. Marriage is an institution that doesn't benefit men in any way from a legal perspective, quite the opposite in fact and the reason men get married is pretty much "blackmail".They get married so that the women, the ones that actually benefit from marriage, stick around. All this is obviously debateworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:28 PM
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usually that’s a decision agreed to by both partners, in which case that marital decision is a decision as a unit to create a home around that Yes, and the condition for that is that neither of them will blow it all up in the air and break the marriage "contract".Hence why fault should matter. Especially if the couple has kids, the decision to stall ones career and stay home to raise a child, maintain the house, etc, is generally a decision to avoid incurring those costs elsewhere It's not a dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:25 PM
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seeing as 53% of US households are double income and SAHP (mothers and fathers) only make up 1/5 of parents. She still loses out. The stats don't seem to differentiate between working and non working mothers. Meals, child care, housekeeping, grocery shopping are many hours that are now opened up for the man. Chores don't take a lot of time. They wouldnt have children to care about if they hadn't been married. They spend 5 hours more per week ... That's like half an hour per day. Its inconsequent…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:17 PM
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The debate topic isn't "I don't want to get married".Its " Marriage is a failing institution for X Y Z reasons " or "marriage is a bad deal for men" Etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:02 PM
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Didn't he say "If you removed all context then it would be rape? ". Are you saying removing context leads to a more accurate reading of the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:34 PM
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This. Is. A. Debate. Sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:29 PM
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Yes, because the women want traditional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:28 PM
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More damning and not something I would suggest but still, impossible to know what happened. Like he said, he hasn't been accused or charged with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:26 PM
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Well, yes. Men not meeting women's money expectations and women not meeting men's "Let me live a little" expectations :P . That's not to say its women's fault, it's the fault of the economy/government.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:57 AM
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Non-consent works the same way. There are ‘cues’ for non-verbal, non-consent. Yes. Roosh’s examples (and he has many more), include non-consent of both the verbal and non-verbal kind. Choosing to assume consent because it’s a quicker path to sex You werent there, you can't in any way assume there wasn't consent. . So it’s strange to mentioned the “not legal” part. Not at all. He is referring to court system bias, not actual legality. Its illegal to have sex with unconscious women in Europe too. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:54 AM
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There was an "incel saint" pic going around with a dude that was quite similar to Driver, zero chin and jaw big nose long hair etc. Driver is saved by his body and fame. Without this he would be an incel or at least close to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:28 AM
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The Asian declining birth rate is a result of the horrible work culture. In order for women to want to marry the man, he has to make a lot of money. In order for the man to make a lot of money, he has to work 20 hours a day. Men see that and say "Fuck that noise. I prefer to sit here with my waifu".Its not really about women being tired.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:21 AM
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Adam Driver is obviously very masculine and looks very masculine. But he doesn't have a "chad face". No, and if he was just a face, he would be an incel. But he is a tall dude with a very wide frame, so he is masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:17 AM
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Because it's especially funny and ridiculous. Being drunk won't get the dude jailed either unless she can prove she was unconscious or something. Having sex with drunk chicks isn't rape. You also can't assume she didn't consent nonverbally in the first example. He literally said she allowed him to fuck her. So, yes. None of these is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:16 AM
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In the very verbal protests just before the rape. Didnt we already establish that consent can be non verbal? The acknowledgement that a woman is too drunk but not caring. Being drunk doesn't make someone unable to give consent. Being passed out does. Are you unironically saying that having sex with drunk chicks is rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:13 AM
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So.... divorced cheaters would be even LESS than the 30 something% shown in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:10 AM
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Yeah, testifying that he didn't let her get into cowgirl is gonna put him in for life!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:09 AM
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🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:04 AM
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I'm saying even if someone presses charges, the dude is gonna go free because there was no actual lack of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:04 AM
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Especially since I wanna compare the percentage of male cheaters in a population vs the percentage of male cheaters in a divorce. And the causes of divorce ISN'T a good metric for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:01 AM
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And where did you see non-consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:59 AM
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Which is shown nowhere in that passage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:56 AM
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It's literally not. You accuse of a man doing these things and he isn't going to go to jail. Because rape is a word with an actual meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:55 AM
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It's mostly used for masculine face but not good looking. Masculinity is more important than being symmetrical so they still find it attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:54 AM
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Wouldn't that depend on how ugly hot they are? It's like asking "say there is a hot girl, how would you rate her? ".i guess the highest I would be able to give is a 6/10 Would you have sex with them Easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:52 AM
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... That's not anyones basic freedom. Do you not know what freedom of speech means or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:50 AM
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-. -
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:48 AM
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yeah so she kept saying ‘no’ but went in anyway and then she stopped saying ‘no’ all of a sudden. Sometime you gotta watch what they do, because it’s a shit-test, stay persistent within your frame and she’ll eventually fuck you ^ Nowhere in that passage is rape or lack of non verbal consent shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:47 AM
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Yep. Divorce however isn't the only metric of a bad marriage/relationship.Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:45 AM
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What a brilliant argument!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:44 AM
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Consider the possibility that you could be wrong. Do the research. I have. I'm absolutely right. See the actual legal definition of rape and not what feminists think it is. I’m serious. Okay bruh. That wasn’t the only example. I provided 3. And by including that you show how of touch with what rape actually is you are. I already explained how none of your examples were rape. Also forcing someone into a position they don’t want isn’t consent. No, having sex with a chick and not wanting to change …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:43 AM
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https://relationshipsinamerica.com/marriage-and-divorce/what-reasons-do-divorcees-offer-for-leaving IIRC Infidelity rates are similar between men and women under 25 (or 30?), but much higher for men at older ages. Unless you get at 70yos , they are quite similar. Nothing that would justify the gender differences in divorce initiation. And of course , self reported cheating rates are unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:38 AM
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Uhm, were you there or something? You hear a woman not protesting to having sex and for some reason you are assuming she didn't reciprocate? Nothing in that comment shows rape or that she didnt just change her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:35 AM
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While women’s income recovers over time, compared to the incomes of non-divorced women, they are still significantly behind. Because non divorced women have been working for longer. That's shit husband wouldn't be able to work for either without outsourcing housekeeping to wife. Lol, why? Do you think a man needs a home cooked meal to progress in his career? Is there some law out there saying divorcees can't progress in their career after divorce? No. And considering that they continue to progre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:26 AM
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I understand perfectly. If you think refusing to let the girl get into cowgirl position is rape , it's clear YOU are the one not understanding consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:20 AM
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30%? Infidelity rates are similar between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:18 AM
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and your take is that it didn’t include anything. Fucking hell! Is there a counterargument or something? It may be hard to reconcile, but that would fit rape criteria in every court. It wouldn't. Non verbal consent is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:18 AM
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And how common are those?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:16 AM
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So, if he knows them irl there is no problem 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:07 AM
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It's not. It's a facsimile of a genuine interpersonal relationship that robs you of the time Spending time with your friends isn't a genuine interpersonal relationship? interacting with people who actually enjoy your company. .... Like your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:04 AM
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scheduled gaming session with the boys for the entirety of the evening. .... That's an interpersonal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:01 AM
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Most men don't cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:59 AM
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None of that was rape. Not letting her change positions isn't rape. Having sex with a drunk chick isn't rape. Being "allowed " ( direct quote) to enter her isn't rape
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:59 AM
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This comment of yours is a perfect example of unironically not understanding what rape is. How is what I described rape? That’s not what I put in my example. If that’s what you got from MY example then you should worry. Your example didn't include anything that would necessitate rape. Maybe if you try really hard and make fictional assumptions like her not reciprocating. The best way to deal with LMR is to abandon the pursuit of sex. If she changes her mind she can come back to you on it No, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:57 AM
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Gaming and porn ADDICTION isn't common. Men that enjoy them are. Smoking is also heavily in decline and so is alcoholism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:51 AM
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I don't like the dude but there isn't any evidence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:51 AM
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The rules aren't about what you find disgusting or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:50 AM
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Thinking that you are average-to-decent in those areas is not the same as actually being average-to-decent in those areas. Yes. Did I stutter? I said being decent isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:44 AM
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Yes. That's not rape. A woman saying no at the start and then making out with you and blowing your dick isn't rape. LMR and how to deal with it is very specific in TRP and has nothing to do with rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:43 AM
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i would say dating for men is hard but not extremely hard Well, sexlessness rates tripled since OLD and social media entered the mainstream and now 1 in 3 young men can't get laid within a year. So there are obviously many problems that make dating quite hard for men nowadays. cold approaching on the streets is not the way to play the game Cold approaching actually works. One of the reasons men have the troubles they have is that they don't cold approach. If you are average looking, have a decen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 08:02 AM
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The reason for that is that when they look for women, they don't care for sexual attraction. These relationships are made for comfort not romantic attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:49 AM
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And also for highly educated people, women initiate divorces for over 90% of divorces!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:47 AM
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Again, nothing against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:41 AM
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There wasn't anything disgusting on these posts. Or against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:41 AM
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.... Not divorcing a dude out of boredom or fucking someone else isn't being a perfect wife. Calm your tatas. Yes the condition for getting money she didn't work for is not breaking the marriage "contract", it's perfectly rational and equal. It’s clear this error is part of why you’re so riled up about this. It’s not HIS house and HIS money, it’s THEIRS. They built it as a married couple. It money that he worked for and she didn't. If you don’t feel like your exwife contributed fairly to your ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:40 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:34 AM
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Spousal abandonment is a pretty specific and massive thing. I don't see it anywhere there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:34 AM
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yes… and it’s lots of maybe, could, no direct evidence, cannot be validated, Welcome to social sciences. Anyway, I didn't say it was 100% proven. I specifically said there are good indications that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:33 AM
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Because it's not a particularly rare thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:31 AM
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Yes. And the meaning of marital dissatisfaction includes all these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:31 AM
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None of the other RP subs (including this one) were quarantined. Mgtow was also quarantined/banned. And yes the bans had nothing to do with actual rules being broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:30 AM
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What do you think early lmr advice was? Ignore her no's . Nope you have no idea apparently what TRP advice about LMR is. See the other reply to this comment. I'm pretty sure he didn't and even if he did that doesn't mean rp advocates for rape. What does the actions of one of its proponents have to do with the philosophy itself? Hate speech is against the rules now, not when the sub was quarantined. Nothing on there was anything that could be considered actual hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:27 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:23 AM
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.... And how does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:34 AM
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I've had plenty of chicks from similar situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:33 AM
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Yes. Did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:33 AM
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You’re assuming that a disparity in living scenarios doesn’t negatively impact children, but it does. It doesn't. She shouldn't divorce then. Think of the children! And you’re treating “fault” as some singular easy to prove liability, but it’s not when it’s in the context of a romantic relationship ending. And? Since when does ease of finding proof excuse the lack of it? We expect adults to find proof of any wrongdoing in order to benefit from the justice system. Are women not adults? Do you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:32 AM
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Yes, she hasn't seen it ON REDDIT . She is claiming that's why it was BANNED. How are you missing this? Like what are you even doing or trying to argue if you aren’t defending that red pillers have “never” said this shit? I'm saying there was never anything on the sub that was against the rules that wasn't quickly removed, just like in any other sub. The voting thing wasn't against reddit rules. The rape and slave thing was straight up fiction and the voting thing depends on what you mean by rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:23 AM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3296090/ Why do people doubt me when they know im always right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:15 AM
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And yet it works. Must not be that cringe after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:12 AM
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But in general single childless women still make less money than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:09 AM
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Rollo, Roosh and Roissey all had separate red pill blogs prior to the creation of the actual r/theredpill subreddit. And these blogs have nothing to do with the sub getting banned. The topic of what red pillers have or have not said was the topic of what I responded to What they have or have not said ON REDDIT. We are literally in a thread talking about the sub reddit getting banned. As for the content, I don't doubt it was a joke but Roosh isn't particularly loved anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:07 AM
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Who would be the judge of whose “fault” the divorce was in order to secure alimony in the magical scenario you’d support? You know at fault divorce used to be a thing for decades and still is in some places, right? There are clear grounds for fault , like infidelity, abuse, abandonment etc. supporting the child’s mom to have a similarly stable life to the children’s father is actually for the benefit of the children. It's not the fathers responsibility. If we are thinking solely about the benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:01 AM
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He wrote it on return of kings, the red pill blog. Which has nothing to do with the SUB getting QUARANTINED on reddit. I never said anything about breaking Reddit rules that’s a complete non sequitur. It's not. That's literally the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:53 AM
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No.Their brain development was influenced by irregular hormone activity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:37 AM
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What isn’t debatable, however is that he did write it and was considered a founder of the red. Did he write it on reddit? I myself have seen several self-proclaimed manospherians on this sub talk about how womens rights and voting and whatnot was a dismal failure, should never have happened, etc. fortunately though not that often. Yes that indeed happens. I don't disagree with them. Voting is as much of a right as owning a gun is. Discussing the problems of universal suffrage isnt any more again…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:36 AM
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Yeah but I'm playing along :P
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:30 AM
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Again, this has nothing to do with who is a believer or not. It has to do with the IQ of the general public. Which is lacking. The point is that whether a belief is shared by the public or not, is irrelevant.Because the public is stupid. You are the one trying to make the argument that something isnt legit because the public doesn't believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:30 AM
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No. The effect of hormones after birth and those during pregnancy aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:25 AM
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And if she doesn’t want to raise the child? Or can’t? Then she'll be punished for child abandonment/neglect and the child will be put for adoption. Abortion is about avoiding pregnancy, not parenthood. Men already get to avoid pregnancy. Good, she should be able to avoid pregnancy. But the issue is that this, along with other laws like safe haven, allow her to avoid parenthood while no such option is afforded to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:13 AM
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Where do these say women should be raped? Voting isn't a right any more than owning a gun is. But I guess ill concede that. All these aren't against the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:09 AM
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It's obviously ultimate enlightenment. It showed you something that is patently true. Testosterone makes people horny. Men have a lot of testosterone. Men are very horny and history and our whole civilization is a result of men trying to solve that horny problem. Sex is of paramount importance to men. Regardless, I have a hand for that very purpose Your hand isn't a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:02 AM
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What does that have to do with the IQ of the general public? The general public IS unintelligent, whether TRP is correct or not (it obviously is) is besides the point. They are by definition around average IQ which isn't something to right home about. Most people are stupid and whether they follow and believe something or not isnt a metric of validity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:59 AM
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That 99,9% of them didn't come about because the father abandoned the house his wife and children lived with out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:56 AM
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So is an annoying bitch or a boring basic girl who adds nothing to your life better than being single because pussy? If the man in question isn't getting pussy?Duh? Is too much water better than no water to a dehydrated man wandering the dessert? If so I don’t even know what to say to you "Thank you for enlightening me with your bright intellect Oh Lord" would be a good idea 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:54 AM
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If she doesn’t know she doesn’t know. She shouldn't be able to adopt then 🤷‍♂️ Before Roe v Wade adoption was available but women used to die trying to abort. Hmmmm. Yes. What does that have to with what you are talking about? How does that justify unequal laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:52 AM
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Homosexuality in men has been linked to tolerance and overexposure to testosterone during pregnancy. So yes. what about bisexuals of both genders? I won't answer because I'm a rule abiding redditor. what about lesbians? Basically regular women with low libidos or asexual that prefer women over beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:49 AM
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Infidelity is comparable between the genders. They show the reasons for divorce. If abandoning the house was one such reason, it would show in the studies. I have seen multiple studies on divorce and not one has noticed such a phenomenon. Maybe they don't pay enough attention to female fiction 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:47 AM
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... you doubt the general public is low intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:44 AM
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you think child support Mostly because men were leaving bastards around. Not because they were leaving their families. alimony? Alimony to help the woman (that back then couldn't work) when she got divorced. This doesn't have anything to do with what we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:42 AM
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Id love to see proof of that then 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:39 AM
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Not much we can do to correct that dude. You could just not allow putting a kid to adoption unless she names a father.Or we can just allow for financial abortion. Like I said, if the father can't be found he stands to benefit. IF he doesn't want the kid. That's like saying "if the father kidnaps the kid and abandons it for adoption, the woman's stands to benefit". I thought you just said it was harder? Yeah I meant harder. Mistype.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:38 AM
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I'm sure it happened historically. It doesn't happen now nor was it particularly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:35 AM
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All men have male nature, yes. Barring rare exceptions like homosexuals that aren't like that due to rare biological issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:34 AM
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https://relationshipsinamerica.com/marriage-and-divorce/what-reasons-do-divorcees-offer-for-leaving Heres another one. The main reasons for divorce were lack of commitment and infidelity. There’s a lot of nuance there. I don’t see how that disputes men leaving their wives. Because they aren't "The dude went for cigarettes and never came back".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:33 AM
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I've seen it, denying that is stupid. You haven't. No one has. It's why not even reddit could point to a specific cause for the ban when it was requested. Again, any content against the rules was removed just like in any other sub. That's why all these men and women have so many bad stories and experiences with the red pill and men from there. They are people they disagree with and that make them feel bad about themselves. Why would they be a credible source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:31 AM
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And who defines what's a grievance and what's vitriolic rhetoric?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:26 AM
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And quickly removed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:25 AM
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Men literally posting about government sponsored sex slaves. Men posting about how women shouldn't have rights. Men saying rape should be legalized. Lol, when did you see that on TRP? And the other men on those forums didn't challenge it or shut it down. It was a breeding ground for sexism and extmist views. Not to mention it was insanely racist and homophobic. Nope, anything that broke reddit rules was removed fairly quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:25 AM
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Pretty much the same as the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:21 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:21 AM
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The mother might not know who the father is, so there's no way to force her to name one So you understand that men don't have the option to put it to adoption like women do. He needs her consent for it, she doesn't. Dude you're the one who said adoption is harder than abortion. Yes, because of things like "abandoning fully grown baby you gave birth to is easier than killing a bunch of overgrown sperm cells".i can't think of anything that would justify unequal abortion laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:20 AM
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It's in mens nature to kill, doesn't mean all or even most men will kill or even try to. You definitely can take behavior out of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:16 AM
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I feel like I'm talking to a wall
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:14 AM
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AWALT is about how women's attraction and nature works, not about their behavior. The sexuality of a stripper and a nun works the same way but it doesn't mean they'll both act the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:12 AM
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Because she has been raised to know what loyalty means. She shouldn't leave me because loyalty is rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:06 AM
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Both men and women can put the kid up for adoption if they're the primary parent ..... There isn't even a father if the mother doesn't name one. Those things that make adoption harder than abortion are the reason this will never be gender-equal. Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:05 AM
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She is specifically talking about the situation where men are supporting the family. If he makes $50k and she makes $45 and does most of the childcare While a big percentage of that 70% have similar incomes, another big percentage (bigger than the gender reversed one), doesn't. most of the childcare, not only is he not supporting her, I'd say he's getting a better deal. Many IFs however.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:03 AM
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It is. "If he was paying attention to me I wouldn't be bored", if she was attracted to him she wouldn't be frustrated, fighting with him, find him immature etc. Etc. You know, feeling marital dissatisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:00 AM
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All women are like that. Also, to clarify, I expect my gf will stop being attracted to me if I lose frame. I don't THINK she would leave if we were married because she is a traditional woman and an actually good and loyal chick. But it would definitely make the relationship significantly worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:58 PM
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Yes. And the meaning of marital dissatisfaction includes all these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:48 PM
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Yes. Doesn't mean I think that's a good thing or that doing so is a traditional quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:47 PM
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That stat includes single mothers. Men make more money in 70%of couples with the disparity being bigger in that 70% than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:46 PM
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theyre easy to please and thats why they leave when something goes wrong, right? Uhm, no? Didn't you read OPs post? Women initiate divorces in 70% of cases and across cultures may I add. idk why that "easy to please" mindset is somehow more attractive to men than "i know what i want, and it's her." so unromantic! But thats exactly what men feel and apparently women don't. Men's sexual desire for the women remains high and their marital satisfaction only starts to drop when her sexual desire for …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:41 PM
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Loyalty is included in "trad qualities".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:37 PM
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Women still have a way to get out of parenthood - adoption. They do but putting a kid for adoption is harder than abortion. I'm aware that even now women have more rights than men, this isnt an argument against my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:37 PM
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SPOUSE UNRESPONSIVE TO NEEDS: 32 PERCENT GREW TIRED OF MAKING A POOR MATCH WORK: 30 PERCENT SPOUSE’S IMMATURITY: 30 PERCENT EMOTIONAL ABUSE: 29 PERCENT Yes all the above are "boredom".They are marital dissatisfaction caused by decline in sexual desire as shown in the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:34 PM
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Because he supported her for so long? Is the concept of loyalty foreign to women? how long should they give him? As much as possible if he is making an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:28 PM
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Yes. I don't see what something being a trope has to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:26 PM
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they abandoned the home’ doesn’t mean this can’t be included within the situation of say, an extramarital affair. I'm sure you can make whatever fiction you want.Maybe "infidelity" means "probed by aliens".But unless that at least shows up as a reason for divorce, I'm calling bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:25 PM
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It is causing. It predicting MARITAL SATISFACTION. General loss of interest would show as marital satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:18 PM
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And it's followed by four other factors that translate to "I got bored " with almost the same prevalence as infidelity. Also, infidelity is comparable between the genders. Edit for your edit: verbal, physical, or emotional abuse:that's...... Vague as fuck. Getting in a shouting match is "verbal and emotional abuse".More of a symptom than a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:15 PM
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Who said anything about 2022? It stopped happening when no fault divorce became a thing and when running away became harder. And it never was particularly common in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:13 PM
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Because it used to happen in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:04 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:01 PM
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1) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/ 2) Again, sexual desire not sex. See the previous study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:01 PM
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If that's all it takes to make an argument you can't refute, sure 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:42 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/ I don't see "abandoned the home" anywhere in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:42 PM
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Not "he abandoned the home".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:40 PM
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And as shown in the study, you are wrong. Marital dissatisfaction came AFTER decline in sexual desire. Perhaps you don't understand the way women feel about emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:39 PM
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It takes four years to get back to pre-divorce levels, just to catch up. That's compared to the money the man used to make. Both lose half their shit in the divorce That's shit she didn't work for. half of the career progression she supported. Considering the man continues to increase his income despite having to literally pay the woman, it doesn't seem she supported his career much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:38 PM
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Data>anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:32 PM
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It's not the only reason. It is the primary however. Proof please See the previous study about how the woman's decline in sexual desire PRECEDES and PREDICTS marital dissatisfaction. Then look at the reasons women give for divorce. and also a lie That's what you think but haven't shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:29 PM
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Sexual frequency doesn't go down. She's acting like her feelings haven't changed. Sexual frequency isn't the only way sexual desire is expressed. Men are dissatisfied because she no longer loves him. His marital satisfaction goes away anyway because that's what happens, Like I already said multiple times, the decline in sexual desire PREDICTS Marital dissatisfaction. If it just went away anyway, you wouldn't see prediction. Conflict in relationships is 1) unavoidable and 2) often unrelated to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:25 PM
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It's not. But it accounts for most of them and of course explains why women divorce more than men. Women's most cited reasons for divorce are different flavours of "I got bored".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:21 PM
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If you mean just sexually, what I said about new pussy energy. If you mean emotionally, that isn't really so much about new relationship energy but how long it's been since you last saw her. You should be mostly over her after a month assuming it wasn't a very long relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:12 PM
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What is that supposed to show?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:09 PM
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"Sexual desire and marital dissatisfaction",not sex. Again, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:07 PM
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From your link. HER decline in sexual desire predicted his marital dissatisfaction. When she is attracted to him, he isn't dissatisfied. Your argument would make sense if the men lost marital satisfaction or sexual desire before the women.They don't. Oh I guarantee you all relationships "go through shit They do. But as shown the " Shit" doesn't tend to cause decline in sexual desire and don't seem to be a problem until sexual desire is lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:06 PM
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It would be cool only if it was a harem situation where only the man fucks. Male love is possessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:57 PM
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You don't see how marital dissatisfaction relates to divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:56 PM
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Because men don't need intense romantic love to feel desire Their marital satisfaction also remained high. So I don't see any evidence for what you are talking about. Or relationships just go through shit. Some shit builds up over time. It can happen. It's not what usually happens however. As already shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:56 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:53 PM
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6 months? New pussy energy probably noticeably diminishes after a month however.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:40 PM
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Men make more because women sacrifice their careers for the man’s children. Single women make less than men too. Men should contribute the same proportion of their income to their own children as women do. Why? How much a kid costs is pretty static. Income isn't. If I make a million a year I don't need to pay 100000 for my kid because my ex wife pays 5000.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:37 PM
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Well I'm under some moral obligation to have my shit together first while Chad doesn't?" Yes. The answer to that question is indeed yes. Granted not having your shit together in the way bloops mean it but still... you might realize being single isn't terrible. It isn't terrible when you are getting sex. Again, to think being in a relationship is by default better than being single It is if you are single and aren't having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:34 PM
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With my clear and bulletproof arguments . You should try it sometime ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:30 PM
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It predicts it because that's when the intense romantic love starts to go away—on both sides As shown in the study, no. Men's desire didn't fall. But "horrible soul-sucking messes" can exist when the sex is good and when it isn't. They're when couples fundamentally hate each other as people, leave the sex out of it. And as shown, the case usually is that women dislike their husbands as people BECAUSE they don't sexually desire them.They stop being attractive to them and so they find faults in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:29 PM
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It's wild
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:26 PM
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I don't know about a mile away but I can definitely do at a cock's distance 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:25 PM
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They should. I'm clearly illustrating how bullshit that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:24 PM
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Yes. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:24 PM
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Unmarried women make as much money as unmarried men Uhm, they dont. Where did you get that? They are things that he no longer has to worry about and can therefore focus on his career. How much do you think having to cook lunch affects a man's career? If his kid is sick and he doesn't need to take time off work to pick the kid up from school, that is her helping his career. If he wasn't married he wouldn't have a kid in the first place. If he can shmooze up to the boss a little easier because his…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:23 PM
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Nah. I understand it perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:15 PM
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The decline of women's sexual desire precedes and PREDICTS the marital dissatisfaction. So its pretty clear that it causes it. There's a lot more to marriage than sex dude. It might shock you but sexual desire is a very important factor in romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:14 PM
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Yes. But they don't go from regular dude to user. They go from unhinged /dude with severe mental issues to drug user.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:12 PM
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He did start using it out of nowhere Yes, so you say. What does his profession have to do with what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:11 PM
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Oh I'm sure there is cause, beta behavior, being out alphaed by another dude etc etc. . These things don't show as marital dissatisfaction. especially not anything their husbands are doing or life changing events like childbirth”? As shown in the study, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:10 PM
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It becomes a soul sucking mess BECAUSE they stop being attracted to the dude, as the study shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:01 PM
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Yeah, people don't go from regular dude to meth user out of nowhere. He was definitely not someone that you couldn't have foreseen it would be a horrible idea to marry. Tingles are more important I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:00 PM
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You stop desiring the dude before he does anything wrong because you are SERIALLY monogamous=>you become miserable and sabotage the relationship because of it=>you divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:58 PM
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Shouldn't have married a meth user then 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:52 PM
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Yes, so you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:51 PM
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Less good marriage than before ≠bad marriage Do I have to put it in caps or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:50 PM
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❤😢
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:48 PM
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Actually, you would
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:48 PM
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They do consider it small. Women have no concept of average due to the apex fallacy. Even 6 inches isn't considered particularly average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:43 PM
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The divorce thread : Women divorce men=>Men bad. The goddamn hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:41 PM
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It's not common at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:39 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:39 PM
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Regardless of who's fault it is, the statistics clearly show that men won't leave bad marriages... Where? Less good marriage than before ≠bad marriage And don't give me that "everything was peachy and then out of nowhere... divorced" Everything is peachy, she loses attraction, makes everything not so peachy, she divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:38 PM
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Most women are worse off after a divorce than her ex husband Because they are bad at making money, not because divorce is bad to them. At the majority of cases it's neutral,the rest it's beneficial because they literally receive men's money and in a very small minority, they are the ones paying. Cooking, paperwork, phone calls, making sure his clothes are clean and pressed, giving him encouragement, having kids and raising them, ect ect How are these things improving his career? She invested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:36 PM
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How does biology disagree with me? They were designed for SERIAL monogamy, not actual monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:02 PM
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Could be 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:00 PM
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But we aren't talking about minority of cases... You are when you say that divorce fucks women over. It's also not a small minority. The man is able to invest more in his career because of his wife's support. What support? Her cooking? Therefore she makes less money because she is also investing in his career. How is she investing in his career after divorcing him? Splitting assets they have both contributed to. That's her loosing half her shit too. But she hasn't contributed to them. What branc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure you have bpd or something similar. So I wouldn't be exactly surprised with you being bubbly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:37 PM
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Not really. While his marriage satisfaction declined due to her sabotaging the relationship, it still remained relatively high. And the point is that the marriages don't just become shitty. They become shitty because she makes them. Because women are designed to not be satisfied with lifelong monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:35 PM
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I don’t understand how you can say it benefits them Because they are literally receiving money from the man. we it has already been established they are better off staying married. If she stayed married she would have to keep being in a relationship with the dude. By getting married and then divorcing she is getting his money without having to keep fucking the dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:31 PM
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Usually it's not a significant enough difference And when it's not neither side benefits or loses. But it is significant for more men than women, in which case, men lose and women benefit. Also it could be argued he only makes more money because of support from the wife and her unpaid labor in the household. Considering they make more money than they used to after getting divorced, no. She doesn't get supported financially though, as alimony is increasingly rare these days. Splitting of assets a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:29 PM
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They are deluded.Bloops are dumb. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:11 PM
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I'm saying that it's not that men put up with shit marriages. It's that they don't find the marriages to be shit because they aren't designed to be miserable with lifelong monogamy like women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:59 PM
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I have, and have yet to see a rebuttal from you which indicates that women are financially better divorced than married. Uhm, I never made such a claim? I said divorce doesn't fuck women over, it benefits them. It allows them to get the man's money (although not all of it like she used to) while not having to stay in a relationship with the man. I never said it benefits them financially , im aware of how bad at making money they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:57 PM
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I swear they get dumber every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:53 PM
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Nah, they are just easy to please. . Women are the ones that can't stay satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:48 PM
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Read the rest of the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:46 PM
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That's not the man's money. It's the whole household's funds. And if he makes more money, which is the case in 70% of marriages, it's money that he worked for and she didn't. In other words, a woman only benefits from marriage as long as she remains married. That's not much incentive in her to divorce. There is. You still get the financial support and you are free to branch swing to another man .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:45 PM
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as great of a proportion of their income to the care of their own children as women do ... But they do in absolute numbers. Why would they contribute the same proportion when they make more money than women? very few women get alimony. Alimony isn't the only way women get men's money. Child support and asset division also achieve the same result. Men who whine about child support and alimony are basically saying that they want an unpaid domestic slave and don’t want to have to support their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:42 PM
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I am aware of the stat. Here is my response Compared to when they had the man's money. By divorcing, the man is literally being forced to pay the woman. I don't understand how you can say women are being fucked by divorce with a straight face. A woman is rewarded for marrying and then divorcing a man. She goes from not receiving money, to receiving money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:31 PM
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Compared to when they had the man's money. By divorcing, the man is literally being forced to pay the woman. I don't understand how you can say women are being fucked by divorce with a straight face. A woman is rewarded for marrying and then divorcing a man. She goes from not receiving money, to receiving money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:30 PM
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While you are correct these platforms are better for men, there is a reason they've eclipsed. Looks ARE one of the more important factors women are attracted to and being able to easily and massively vet for it is a huge boon for women. Rapport and the like can be ascertained at the actual date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:27 PM
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How? By taking into account the gender ratios alone, that wouldn't help at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:24 PM
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Is this a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:23 PM
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7
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:20 PM
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Promoting hate. I wasn't very "sympathetic" of male abuse victims in a comment of mine. At least this time it was actually something that was against their moronic rules, unlike the previous ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:19 PM
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I have my suspicions it's because we got more women here lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:17 PM
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Thanks for the tip, let's hope it doesn't get to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:17 PM
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They link the message and say whether it's harassment, promoting hate etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:16 PM
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Lol, so fun seeing women freak out about not being able to rid themselves of parenthood while that has been the case for men since the beginning and across the world. The cherry on top of course is asking men to support them, while they never did anything to support financial abortions. Now, let's address some of the many moronic arguments in this thread -Banning abortion will mean men won't be having casual sex. Uhm.... how many men do you think get casual sex in the first place? If banning abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:15 PM
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Free again! The bans are getting out of control lately. I managed to go through three years without any issues and now I've been admin-banned twice in the span of a month. I fear I'm going to be the next Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:57 PM
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That's step one on my master plan. Step two is renegotiating so that both regular abortion and paper abortion become legal. Dance puppets dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:32 PM
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Honestly feels like a cheat code
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:28 PM
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Yep. Became more of an asshole, instant improvement to my success. 10/10 would recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:47 PM
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Yeah, if letting my gf/wife get fucked by other dudes is treating her like a human being, I don't particularly want to treat her like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:46 AM
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And that's being a cuck. Red pill is selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:41 AM
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If it's a plate, you shouldn't care about whether someone else is fucking her. She means nothing to you. If she is someone you care about, you should (and do) care if someone is banging her. Male love is possessive. Accepting someone else fucking your woman is a sign of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:27 AM
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I know it's bait but.... No. If you are red pulled you can get whatever you want out of women. So you won't let other men fuck her. You might even have a one sided open relationship if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:14 AM
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Mine are mostly steady with a slight upward trend. My behavioral standards go up every year however.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 05:28 PM
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Neoteny doesn't matter much to women. Status and game do. These improve with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 04:53 PM
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I get your point, but I’m arguing the causation is off, which is the crux of the discussion here. I get that but I'm saying that it works as proof of preselection, which is why it's attractive. I'm saying there is causation involved. I've definitely seen my chances improve when I allude to being a player. But you don’t need an astronomically high lay count to get sexual experience. Technically you could do it in 1 with a sufficiently long LTR. You don't. But unless she sleeps with you she doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:59 PM
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I'm sure that's how it will go down 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:30 PM
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Outcomes are basically the same, but it acknowledges that some women aren’t into that but are still willing to compromise on it. Somewhat similar to saying something like “women don’t like rich guys” because some of them marry average earners. That doesn't particularly work though. Do women choose poorer guys over richer? Do they choose lower n men over higher n men? I just don’t think it’s driven directly off of his lay count It's obviously not the only factor but it is A factor. Whats more of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:40 PM
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He will either tell or lie up. Men down lie down on their n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:22 PM
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I’d say some of them have an issue in a vague peripheral sense, but it almost always gets trumped by other aspects they like about the guy. Isn't that the same thing as having no issue with it? Anyway, due to how preselection works on women, they not only have no issue with it, it's probably attractive to them. They just MIGHT not like the idea of it (due to religion for example)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:21 PM
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In the real world however women have no issue with high n in men (on the contrary) . So until that thought process reaches our dimension, men are gonna keep doing as they have been
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:31 PM
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Actual Madonna/Whore complex is a very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:29 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:51 AM
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Never mind found it ≠≠≠≠
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:16 AM
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Nice to know but I reddit exclusively on mobile :P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:15 AM
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gold diggers Except what should be considered gold digger is a really hot topic for them. They don't like it for example if you exclude women that don't pay on the first few dates. As for the other standards, you'll notice the good standards are standards women "supposedly" have and the bad standards are those that women don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:28 AM
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I can attest I've seen a lot of them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:11 AM
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It's not. Any kind of standard men might have is considered bad. Don't look for any logic behind it, it's all feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:10 AM
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1a . Men's perception is normally distributed, women's isn't.That is known. But OBJECTIVE attractiveness is normally distributed. 1b . Since attractiveness is perceptual, it is actually completely possible. Anyone can rate anyone else as being infinitely beautiful. People in relationships regularly consider their S.O.s to be far beyond other humans in terms of attractiveness. Please be serious. You are still not addressing the fact that a normal distribution is not bounded. It's THEORETICALLY no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:09 AM
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Witchcraft! How?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:55 AM
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1a Overall attractiveness is composed of physical traits that people find attractive. These physical traits are normally distributed -> attractiveness is normally distributed. 1b . There aren't any values of the attractiveness variable being excluded. You can't be infinitely beautiful or negatively ugly. It's a normal distribution. 1c They define what the mean is and rate people according to how they deviate from that mean. Whether thats representative of the actual mean is impossible to know bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:58 AM
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Counterpoint 1a.:Attractiveness isn't a psychometric trait, it's a physical trait and they follow the normal distribution. Counterpoint 1b . Of course you can bind the normal distribution between two values, what are you talking about? Counterpoint 1c uh? They define a mean based on an average amount of attractive characteristics and and rate accordingly. Counterpoint 1d Yeah, the photos aren't the best. Counterpoint 2a :Literally every social science study has limitations. This doesn't discredi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:21 AM
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Not wanting to wife up a slut =/ hating women for having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:52 AM
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Oof, what a low IQ take she offered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:34 AM
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Every stat ever says otherwise but keep on dreaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:32 AM
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Fake news
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:12 PM
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Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 09:09 PM
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how does it not explain it? Size=power, it's a simple concept. But WHY are you sexually attracted to power? Men aren't, why are you? And, keep in mind, these evolutionary explanation imply a basis in scientific studies so you would need those to make the claim. I sound like a broken record right now. You can find many of them on google. Just type paternity uncertainty. Or just look how men have been punishing female promiscuity since the dawn of time and across cultures A woman who has a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 04:20 PM
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I'm a poet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 02:47 PM
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Bigger things are more powerful, more likely to win in battles, less likely to be challenged, more likely to keep me safe. They make me feel small which feels cozy and protected. It also makes sense for me to be smaller because I'm also physically weaker, etc. But all these don't explain why you are sexually attracted to them. You just are because that how you evolved. Can you psychoanalysize the disgust? Sure. You want to invest in things others don't have. It's why I would pay more for a priva…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:40 PM
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Women have a certain nature and sexuality that works a certain way. Here's how navigate it in order to get what you want out of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:24 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:22 PM
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It's an evolutionary aversion that came about due to paternity uncertainty. It is what it is. It's like trying to explain why women find tall men or dominance hot. As for the thought process its :"Why am I investing in a chick everyone has used? Ew".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:21 PM
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Like you had to be cool or attractive enough to get laid NSA. women get bombarded with a zillion gym guys who seem uber desperate to pump-n-dump ..... So they are attractive enough. and that's not enticing or exciting and just depressing. Seems like it's women's problem. They don't like NSA sex apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 10:27 AM
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AF/BB isn't polyandry in the sense that she doesn't desire multiple men at the same time and the extra pairing is hidden from the other mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:38 AM
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You seemed to only list sociological rationality, Lineage and human physiology studies aren't sociological rationality. I think what bothers me is that he says that this "should" be a thing, not "can" be a thing. It is the "natural" state of things. That's what the top men have been doing from prehistory to today. The argument is that women have evolved to not mind this very much because of all this. As for whether it should be like that from a moral perspective, maybe it shouldn't. But no one i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:35 AM
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Any community where the Men outweigh the Women by a multiple of 2 is called an easy target by bandits. If the bandits outnumber the men. Which doesn't have much to do with the gender ratio Making them is the first part. As far as a society wide approach, it doesn't work when it comes to raising them I already said it's not ideal for society. You're blaming it all on Monogamy? All those things exist at an even more prevalent and at a worse state under any other relationship dynamic. I'm blaming S…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:30 AM
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Polygyny is more likely to work now more than ever in the history of people I have no idea what this has to do with anything The amount of Men that could actually successfully raise (food + shelter +Security) multiple families in the past are in the extreme minority. And in the prehistoric past two or three men could handle six women relatively easily. I've seen a community of people attempt it first hand and it all ends with divorces and kids with problems It works on making a lot of kids. How?…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:19 AM
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after grinding they can grind as many women as they want? Yes. It's the "be a good beta" mindset rebranded.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:08 AM
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I think that's helpful and great, but that doesn't make having an unplanned child any easier BUT IT MAKES IT NOT A BABY TRAP. She isn't trapped into taking care of a baby. every woman fully equipped to make such a serious decision after the trauma of an assault Assault? My god you are unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:07 AM
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But they can abort so......
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:02 AM
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That's all Sociological Heritage and human physiology studies aren't sociological. to Modern Western society (unless you're a farmer and desperate for workers in 20 years from now). Our modern instincts were developed in the prehistoric past. Not the last 100 years. It's very relevant. That's a qualitative opinion. It means nothing without more info You can click on the sources and find more info. Polygyny, Polyandry or polygamy doesn't work if you plan on having kid's. Polyandry and polygamy do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:01 AM
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But it's not baby trapping. Baby trapping is being trapped into taking care of a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:52 AM
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If facing a consequence is what makes something a trap, literally everything is a trap and the word has no meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:45 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygyny Most research into the determinants of polygyny has focused on macro-level factors. Widespread polygyny is linked to the kinship groups that share descent from common ancestor.[22] Polygyny also served as "a dynamic principle of family survival, growth, security, continuity, and prestige", especially as a socially approved mechanism that increases the number of adult workers immediately and the eventual workforce of resident children.[23] According to sci…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:38 AM
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Uhm, the clowns in that video weren't the red pillers. His rationality always hinges on bIoLoGy and NaTuRe, but only at the convenience of his selfishness. But it IS biologically congruent. Polygyny was definitely a thing in our evolutionary (and historical) past. Polyandry never was. The only way he could have multiple non-cheating girlfriends in a moral way, is if he was polyamorous, muslim, or dated way below his league (not that he is super attractive to begin with). He definitely could get …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:26 AM
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A trap is something with no escape. There is an escape. It's not baby trapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:21 AM
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Abortion isn't particularly risky. A tough choice isn't a trap. I'm not saying it's not immoral but by definition it's not baby trapping
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:25 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:59 PM
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When they work, you don't need mind reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:59 PM
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Yep. It's called having a working brain and eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:52 PM
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Stealthing isn't baby trapping. He isn't trapping her, she can abort at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:27 PM
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No. What do I care what other men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:21 PM
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Yes eating is one of the main drives of life. One of the main reasons you work is so you can eat. For men sex is an addiction. For addicts, the drug they are addicted to is the center of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:14 PM
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How can an adult human not know this is reality? Have you seen what lengths men go for sex? How much it's shaped human history? What effect just the mere presence of women has on men?The ubiquity of porn usage? The effects of testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:59 PM
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Everything is about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:23 PM
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You don't think men are just mindless fucking seeking machines do you Uhm, that's exactly what they are. Men are born pussy addicts. Literally pussy is the only reason they are paying, not because of some nonexistent imbalance between the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:02 PM
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To balance HER risk, HE has to pay? Can you explain to me the logic in that? Why does he have to deal with her problem? They're not going to hold the guy at gunpoint. They just, you know, might pick a different guy I'm aware. But let's not pretend that it's justified in any other way other than "Because we have leverage".There is no logic or philosphical reasoning behind it, they can just get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:50 PM
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And? Are how does this entitle them to men's money?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:44 PM
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Women face disproportionate risk and bear disproportionate costs in dating and relationships. And what does that have to do with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:24 PM
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If you are still searching, it means you haven't found what you are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:17 PM
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I doubt there is anyone alpha enough to make women not run from a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:03 PM
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Uh? They are as specific as they get. Dominance: power and influence over others.Shit tests, see the side bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:46 PM
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He was the most alpha of them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:44 PM
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Ok so once SLR goes high tech, you think male thirst will go down drastically? Male thirst will stop being a factor in the SMP. Which is obviously a huge change since male thirst is what's basically driving all the modern dating dynamics. Why would a dude be thirsty for a chick when he has infinite customizable dimes willing to do every depraved thing he wants ? In fact it wouldn't be hard to have a simulation of said chick do these depraved things. more men can focus on other things... maybe a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:54 PM
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Just like they know you use your computer for porn. But that's not a problem. Seeing a 80kg cat girl doll with three tits might be. Plausible deniability can be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:12 PM
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The two "speaks" aren't saying the same thing. The red pill is being specific and accurate to reality, the "normal" speak is intentionally vague and inaccurate feel good nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:10 PM
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They really don't want to believe that their money and careers don't matter to us but their beauty and youth do. Oh well, too late for them anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:07 PM
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bet that’s followed up with because “men and women are different” and other parroted handwavey statements. Yes. Men and women are different. Why are you shocked? When men lose attraction it's because she fell bellow a, very forgiving, standard. When women lose attraction it's because the man doesn't measure up to the other men she interacts with. Women's sexuality is comparative, men's not so much. shit like this happens too frequently to shove all explaination onto “only women are hypergamous!”…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:04 PM
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They did actually make video replies doing just that.We are kings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:59 PM
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They should have gone with "Feel the good vibes, align your chakras" like bloops do. Clearly the intellectual approach...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:57 PM
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Like I've said before, the way sex substitute technology will go isn't sex bots. It's VR. Fully customisable, cheaper and private . It will make the effect of the internet on the SMP feel like a blip.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:55 PM
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She got fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:50 PM
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t’s a way of saying “it could be anyone” because that perception is wildly subjective woman-to-woman. Unless the woman is blind or a retard, no it couldn't be anyone. There is subjectivity involved but it's not as drastic as you appear to think it is. Maybe her husband is objectively the best in looks, status, game but familiarity has dropped him down in her eyes so she falls for the second best because the mystery boosts him up for example. But that's pretty much the extend of the subjectivity.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:50 PM
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The mods of the sub set it to private. It wasn't shut down. It is "supposedly" a permanent thing however since they want to divert people to their website.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:06 PM
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No fucking shit! Of a course ANY HUMAN that leaves one person for the other is gonna PERCIEVE the next person as better. This is why giving different new names for this crap is laughable. I explain this in my other comment. Loss of attraction = hypergamy? Whenever someone loses attraction is it “Hypergamy”? No, when WOMEN lose attraction, it's because of hypergamy. It's the framework of their sexuality. Hypergamic Sexuality can not be extrapolated to explain the behaviours that Red Pill asserts …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:03 PM
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🤦‍♂️ Non-Hypergamy – That whole paragraph is nonsense so I have no idea what you were trying to achieve with it Hypergamy isn't just "wanting a better man than the previous one".Its being ATTRACTED to ONLY the best man she interacts with. This isn't something that everyone does. It's something that women do. Men don't only want the best woman available, they want the second best, the third best, the hundredth best too. Which is mirrored in their behavior. You can’t say women continually seeking …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 04:01 PM
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What constitutes as better isn't vague. It's whether she PERCEIVES the man as better in a combination of looks, status and game (alpha personality and behavior traits) . That determines which man she is attracted to.It doesn't determine whether she'll branch swing or not (but it heavily influences it).Branch swinging isn't the main problem with hypergamy, loss of attraction is. I could apply it to men in the same fashion but I think it’s bullshit so I don’t. You can't. Make sexuality doesn't fit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:34 PM
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"Hypergamy – The instinctual urge for women to seek out the best alpha available. This is marked by maximizing rejection (therefore women are the selective gender). A woman will vet her alpha through various shit tests to ensure his "health" on the alpha scale. She is conditioned to recognize a declining alpha, as hypergamy also tends to continue seeking out higher status males even while with an alpha male. Shit tests allow her to prepare herself for eventually leaving when a new higher status …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:14 PM
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There are “multiple metrics” showing that economic hypergamy exists. And that women prefer more attractive men. This isn’t the same as Red Pill’s definition of hypergamy. But it does point in that direction. So does womens inability to maintain attraction to a man long term, how quickly they move on etc. This study also makes a good case for it. There is plenty of evidence that supports hypergamy and frankly little that doesn't. What there isnt is definitive proof, which can be said for most top…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:04 PM
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It does. It's on the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:56 PM
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I'm saying that the misrepresentation is secondary to the fact that people here have no idea what red pill even is. Most of the people "debating" here against it don't even know what hypergamy or awalt means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:26 PM
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There are multiple metrics pointing in that direction. No model on how human sexuality works has strong evidence to support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:25 PM
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I would say it's because no one here knows what the red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:29 AM
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Wrong.it's wrong that they aren't big boobies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:26 AM
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It undermines my argument because YOU don't believe it exists? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 11:24 AM
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Hypergamy dictates that women are unable to both compromise and romantically desire the dude. This usually leads to unhappiness. You can't negotiate desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:52 AM
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Who owns Twitter now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:51 AM
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Ignore the idiots. Lesbian women have an easier time because sexual attraction isn't a factor when dating. They date for comfort not sexual desire so the standards are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:36 AM
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Why? It's not like I asked them anything for them to lie
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:22 AM
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All the things I told you give a very high degree of certainty . This means I can be selective about n count. I hope you sleep a with a slut and never know that she is one Oh I've slept with plenty of sluts. I just don't commit to them. And as I already explained, I won't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:42 AM
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Yawn. Stats you conveniently don't provide proof o They've been posted a million times here. Google is your friend. participate to make redpill dudes walk back their incorrect statements which I've already done several comments up by forcing you to admit there's more than one requirement men have for women Yeah,you are playing 4d chess here😂. It's not that you are unable to understand the sentiment of a statement.... Men have pretty much nonexistent requirements for women. Especially compared to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:23 AM
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except a person can have any kind of hobby and be a total virgin, a person can dress super showy and post a million selfies and still be a virgin, a person could have relationships in their history and still be a virgin, and oh also, most people do not stay acquaintances with their one nights stands. And how likely is it for these things to happen? How likely is it for MANY of these things to happen at the same time? If it looks like a slut, acts like a slut and speaks like a slut, it's a slut. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:19 AM
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What you say is a myth because we literally got stats that say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 01:58 AM
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She how she lives her life, her hobbies, mannerism, her social media, how long she has been single , her friends might let it slip, her stories might not add up, we might keep running into "acquaintances" of hers etc. Etc. Or you can just pretend to be the cuckiest cuck to ever cuck and that you are super sex positive and non judgemental and she'll spill the beans herself. There are a billion ways to find out, asking her isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 01:57 AM
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Who you fuck doesn't happen in a vacuum. Anyone with experience can find out whether you are a slut or not without asking (if he doesn't get you to fess up on your own). The exact number isn't important. What matters is whether it's high or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 01:42 AM
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The wage gap isn't a myth because men don't make more money than women. The wage gap is a myth because there are reasons men make more money. The homeless story was just an example to illustrate the very easily observable fact that even not living on the streets isn't a requirement for men. Like I already said, you think men wouldn't date a homeless model? And yes, your anecdote is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 01:29 AM
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Men make more money in 70% of marriages and in that 70% percent the wealth disparity is bigger than the one in the 30% that doesn't. So, your anecdote is mostly irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:50 AM
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Yes. How would having less options make it easier to find a good partner.? specially considering women's high standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:09 AM
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Since the man is mostly the one that makes more money, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:08 AM
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What benefits does a man get from getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:12 PM
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A lot of options is bad for a restaurant menu because you are there for a limited time and it's an ultimately inconsequential choice. Dating isn't like that. A lot of options doesnt mean you'll be happier with the one you choose It does compared to having less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 11:11 PM
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What trp means with alpha. DGAF attitude, dread, selfishness, etc. Traits and behaviors that women are sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:51 PM
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Basic reasoning. If I want to buy a house, having a lot of options isn't a problem, it's a boon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:48 PM
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Failure to detect sarcasm, round two. You're not doing well here. Haha, yeah, I'm the one not detecting the sarcasm 😂 He was ambivalent about kids. Shockingly, not all men share your obsession with children I'm not obsessed with children. I think it's fine if someone doesn't want to have them. But marriage is literally for children. There is zero reason for a man to marry otherwise. Unless he can't get a woman without it of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:48 PM
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And had a woman fucking him for three days... The horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:45 PM
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Yes but you are wrong for thinking so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:26 PM
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Omg, one guy? Really? Well that anecdote really serves as a good approximation of high value male behavior in general. I can assure you it's not just him. You think men wouldn't date a model if she was homeless? You know, I am a woman and my poor little lady brain can't math so good sometimes, but I'm pretty sure that's three. Bravo! He says, to the woman who put a high premium on intentionally dating in college and marrying. Who also, coincidentally, has a career and no children. So you found a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:26 PM
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A lot of options isn't a problem. Choosing a partner is different from choosing what you'll eat in a restaurant. When it comes to choosing a partner more=good.women don't have it hard because top men have it easy. They both just have it easy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:21 PM
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Why would we? A man being assaulted by a woman is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:11 PM
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But not being homeless is generally a requirement, no? Not particularly. We have someone that's married to a formerly homeless chick right in this sub. To get a man that I "would actually want to have" as you put it i would probably need to be more than just a low n count woman who had nothing else going for her? Be attractive enough, be nice , don't be a slut. These are men's "requirements". If a woman who is career driven or childfree doesn't rate high enough in your worldview to get the desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:10 PM
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For most it fades. For the few that it doesn't it's because the man is alpha enough to maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:04 PM
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The characteristics you mention are so easy to fulfill, they aren't worth mentioning. It's not hard to not be homeless, not to be a bitch to a dude or to not have three kids. Being career driven or childfree isn't a problem to a man that doesn't want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:32 PM
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Because counselors are a sham. You can't negotiate desire. And no, the counselors won't show them that the woman is creating the problems. They'll take the woman's complaints at face value and not address the actual cause of the problem, her attraction to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure you had many more adjectives in the previous comment. Including homelessness. The three you left are just preferences, not requirements in any way. Yeah, men have one requirement all right. No other unreasonable expectations at all Glad you get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:09 PM
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They'll not be the men you want however. Men have pretty low and reasonable standards for women and they are highly mutable. Resorting to concocting an absolute train wreck of a woman to prove that they don't, actually proves that point. Women have many, high and unreasonable standards for men, many of which are either immutable or external. So, as you see your little attempt at reversing what I said is... farcical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:29 PM
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Church girls? Low n chicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:24 PM
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Nah, the secret is to be red pilled externally. Your inner self isn't important to getting a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:20 PM
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I don't know, was your ONE requirement a joke? I've had one sexual partner so does that mean I'm allowed to be fat? Over 35? Bitchy? Homeless? Staunchly feminist? Career minded? Childfree? A single mom to the three kids I had with that single partner? Yep, you'll find plenty of men willing to put up with all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:17 PM
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I'm a romantic ❤❤
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:12 PM
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Well the Asari are sluts too. And don't get me started on those twilek whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:10 PM
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Because they spend a lot of money to look hot. .... Also they are easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:06 PM
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Still together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:55 PM
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Because they are easy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:54 PM
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We have ONE requirement out of men Is this a joke? It has to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:51 PM
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If you mean my GF breaks up with me:I will fuck an ungodly amount of bitches. I'll become a dark cloud of dick that will ensnare the capital and enter every hole and orifice in it. Your churches will not shelter you, holy ground will not stop me. Only becoming fat may spare you from the Dickening. If you mean I somehow become irreparably unattractive to women:Get hookers, change my life trajectory so I don't have to work much but still get paid enough to fund my entertainment, lose myself in inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:16 PM
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Fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:08 PM
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.but i guess what i’m more concerned about is how much of a factor and how much it affects the quality of the men i attract. Considering the facts I mentioned, probably an important factor. so i’m saying like, i guess FDS is the best proof that women holding out gets good men? Wut? i’ll find someone as my standards aren’t too crazy. If you've been alpha widowed, they are. but you’re also the one that said i don’t exist; aren’t you? so you don’t understand what i want. Oh, you are THAT chick. Im …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 02:04 PM
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And a dude that likes to be pegged is a gay dude in the closet. You can accept it or not, not exactly my problem 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:19 PM
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divorce isn’t good, but there’s a reason women initiate it so much, no? Yes, that they are hypergamously SERIALLY monogamous.They are attracted to a dude and lose attraction to him soon after. i want my first marriage to last until death. and the stats are best among older, educated people. Not getting divorced=/ a good marriage. There are three main reasons older people divorce less -They are less desirable partners by the time they want to divorce. Being a single mother at 40 is different to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:18 PM
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Of course of course. And the dude that wants that, is gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:02 AM
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you think being taken off the market fast is the best thing? why? It shows that they are wanted. is divorce is the worst outcome for women? why? It's not. But I would hardly call it a goal. why would i care if i’ll get the same man no matter what? But you won't be getting the same man. Value gets value. Being low n adds to your value meaning you'll get a higher value man than you would if you were high n. It also means that man is less likely to be banging other women. You are stuck thinking tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:01 AM
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they would be working their asses off to be a HVM and going after these women. but that’s not honestly what most women see. ? These women tend to be the ones that are taken off the market the fastest. Like I said, women aren't very observant. but like; the higher n count married women are saying the same thing. Nor really. They are the ones that tend to be divorced. They do say that before getting divorced however :P except the 2 women i mentioned happened to say they date men that make a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:24 AM
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Definitely can. Pegging for example is mega gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 07:10 AM
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And if you like being a sub, you like boys but are in denial. It's not very complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:14 PM
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I see myself in there and I don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:11 PM
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I see you have good taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:10 PM
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Yes. Being the driver Is a leading role. Leading is masculine, being lead is feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:08 PM
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so like, not more money than me but yeah, more money than the median woman. Shouldn't be a problem to get an above average earning man when you hang out with above average earning men. Depending on your value of course. are you telling me above average men are going after low n count women in droves? The ones that actually commit?Yes. and lower educated people Low educated women aren't low n. You are underestimating how quickly women can rack up n counts. too many men and women cheat on incredib…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:48 PM
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It's more realistic that someone is cocky in a way that overcompensates while also having low self esteem, rather than a person who is truly confident Yes that can happen I agree. I've met a few women who fit the description of pretty girl who thinks she's average looking, but there's usually baggage tied to it. In my 25ish years of life surrounded by women, I've never once seen this 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:33 PM
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Barely an annoyance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:28 PM
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Depends on what you mean by baggage. Self esteem in women isn't something men care about. Cockiness are unattractive qualities in a woman. Just noting however that it's an unrealistic dillema. There are no attractive women who think they are ugly. At worse they might think they are hot but not realize how hot they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:50 PM
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It kinda is bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:33 PM
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Or would you rather date someone who was attractive, but sincerely thought of themselves as ugly? Isn't that the dream?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:31 PM
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How would they be associated with being odious when they arent specifically marketing to those people? They would make up a tiny minority of their consumer base.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:24 PM
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I dont remember where you live but in America the median salary is about $40k. But the median man makes more than the median woman. what are men supposed to bring to the table these days? Companionship, security, someone to raise children with, more money than you etc. men cheat anyways. it’s like biological and since most men are at or below average intelligence, Being low n would help scoring an above average intelligence man because it would make you above average. you think them scoring a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:21 PM
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If he is gayish he will probably be into it. Otherwise probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:36 PM
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Anal week is the worst. I like all the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:33 PM
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How gay is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:33 PM
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eh. most men can barely exist these days. what’s the point? By what metric? like what prize do i win if i am not a whore? will a hvm fall out of the sky? It become more likely for a high value man to actually invest in you and not cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:31 PM
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Why would coca cola care if an odious person buys their product?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:29 PM
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Women have no idea what they want. They lose attraction to hubby and start problems because of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/d53tvy/is_female_sexuality_actually_a_trap_for_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:27 PM
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... Eventually.And they won't be happy for it. This is obviously a horrible dynamic . Marriage dying isn't an accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:26 PM
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We basically have ONE requirement out of women, don't be whores. It really shouldn't be that hard for them to fulfill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 07:25 PM
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I agree. But it seems that way of dating is getting pushed away by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:47 PM
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Pretty much never.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:45 PM
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Yeah she can, and should because she is under threat, but she's still in danger and there's no telling what would actually happen. In that case the dude is already being acting outside the law. This is a stupid example. No, but it IS a threat and will provoke a fight or flight or freeze response. It's not a threat. The homeless dude isn't threatening me. Me PERCEIVING it as a threat is irrelevant to the actual situation. From a dude who DID force himself on her after she tried pushing and told h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:05 PM
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Well, one could argue that that's exactly the way the SMP is heading. With the proliferation of OLD and social media and the Metoo bullshit, the SMP is shaping up to be exactly a world where the yellow and below guys can't get sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:01 PM
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Yeah, she'll be great in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:57 PM
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I want to live in a utopia where there are no murders,no violence,no theft, no greed no manipulation. A world where eating chocolate all day doesn't make you fat, refractory periods aren't a thing and the world is filled with rainbows. Alas, that's not possible so I have to live in the real world and adapt to it. Rapists don't rape because they don't know what rape is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:57 PM
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And what if he didn't leave from her place, or some other scenario where he should be the one leaving? She can call the police?Duh? What if he was her ride and it takes time for her to leave? She'll leave anyway? Is being late better than having sex she doesn't want? I hope every woman needing a ride can wait it out safely, but basically a trespasser refusing to leave her home IS a threat. Yes, it is. He is literally tresspassing. That's irrelevant to rape. Imagine a homeless person following yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:53 PM
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Doesn't matter, it's the truth. The male ideal is polygyny.Harems basically. Exclusive sexual access to at least one woman and unlimited sexual access to an infinite amount of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:26 PM
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Because she said no and he keeps asking anyway, as if to point out how she CAN'T really say no or stop him, a usually bigger and stronger person anyway. So, she can leave, push him away, keep saying no etc. Etc. What's stopping her ? If he didn't leave or let me leave, that would also be a threat. If he didn't let you leave, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:24 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:21 PM
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Why would coca cola care if a Trump supporter buys it's product or a leftist?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:41 PM
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not all males? only high status males? or are they just able to express their polygynous impulses? All men are polygynous. The more desirable they are the less likely they are to keep themselves under control. Also, the women are incentivizsd to divorce them due to the way the legal system works so thats also a big factor. does it increase their fitness... Yes. For men more kids>more chances your genes will survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:39 PM
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Even the woman wanting the breakup more doesn't necessarily indicate who "caused" the breakup. Cheating rates are comparable between the genders and not even the top reason for divorce. Abuse rates are low. I can't think of anything else that would cause the divorce and not make it ultimately women's "fault". Ultimately I think it boils down to men being more complacent than women So, they don't want to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:34 PM
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that's a threat. How is that a threat? Are you gonna say a man isna child lacking agency of he gives a mugger hia wallet after the mugger pulls out a weapon? No. But unless he pulls a weapon on me, I'm not giving him money just because he asked. A weapon is threat of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:30 PM
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Yes but they'll be treated like adults. Which means they are still considered to be responsible for themselves and to have agency, even if they fail in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:28 PM
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Yes, men can be penetrated and the British courts recognise that as rape. So only men can be rapists. Fascinating. and other kinds aren't recognised as rape of men or women (although they do have exactly the same sentencing, they just aren't called rape). "The sentencing council also offers sentencing guidance on any sexual crimes, which – other than assault by penetration – are not comparable with sentences for rape. For example, the sentencing guidance for sexual assault involving physical har…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:27 PM
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Men cheat for sexual variety. Women cheat because they are no longer attracted to hubby. No one ever said that most cheaters cheat due to lack of sex. It can definitely be a factor however.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:13 PM
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I don't know of a legal system that doesn't recognise rape of men. In the UK,raping someone requires penetrating him. We don't want adults to be forced to do things either. We don't. But unless violence is involved, we trust adults to handle things by themselves and we don't make any time an adult is forced to do something he doesn't want illegal. We do that with children however 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 03:00 PM
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And algorithms help with that. How does a potential client watching an ad about coca cola in a video they clicked on, hurt coca cola?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:55 PM
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And if they just ignored them, nothing would have happened and they would be giving them money again within days. It was a political move, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:53 PM
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Thats definitely not a subjective opinion. It's literally what adulthood legally is. The age where you (and not your parents) are now responsible for yourself and have personal agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:49 PM
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It would remain the same. In fact you'll notice that all the variances you are talking about are about MEN's preferences. Because male sexuality is by nature made to be adaptable to what's available. Men in mountains fuck goats if need be. This doesn't mean that it doesn't follow a certain algorithm (for example if women present->fuck women not goats).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:44 PM
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Post hoc rationalization. She already believes that women aren't at fault and tries to make reality fit that belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:36 PM
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Potentially yes... Depends on what kind of ad it is. As long as it's not an ad about how awesome Smosh is, not really. They have whole marketing jobs for people to watch commercials/ads and make sure they are not next to things that would make them look bad. And algorithms are sufficient for that. the Brady Bunch where a laundry soap brand sued the channel because they aired the commercial during an episode where the washing machine broke lol And how did that lawsuit go? Again, these apps got bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:19 PM
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Adulthood is the age society deems you as having agency and responsibility for yourself. You seem to agree that women are children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:14 PM
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It's not their target audience and it would turn off the people that are in their target audience because it looks like they are supporting trump. Do I think Coca cola is supporting Smosh if an ad pops up while watching their videos? It's an ad. Even with algorithms in place, they would be supporting a platform that allows "the other side" to promote what they believe to be hate. And that's never been an issue. How do you think these apps got big in the first place? It's the same as commercial a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 02:03 PM
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Anything that involves actual labor is expensive. Anything that involves machines is cheap and what Twitter already has been doing. I don't see what that has to do with censorship. If anything censoring less would require less labour. The general problem is that state-sponsored propaganda has deep budgets and resources and patience. That's fair, I too have my doubts he will go too much against censorship because I'm positive it's intentional agenda pushing by the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:46 PM
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they wouldn't want to be advertised next to a crazy Trump tweet. Why? The lastest Target ad with a mixed racial couple wouldn't want to be on the same page as a conservative talking head. And an MMA course ad wouldn't want to be seen next to a gay marriage pic. That's why they use algorithms. Mixed messaging aside, it makes it harder to target your demographic, which means less profitability for them... Again, algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:43 PM
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Lesbians are a negligible percentage of marriages. Also, the ratios are consistent across cultures (in some being even higher).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:38 PM
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https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf If the woman wanted the breakup more, that is scored as “1”; if the man wanted the breakup more, that is scored as “0”; and if both partners wanted the breakup equally, that is scored as “0.5.” Table 1 shows that women accounted for 69% of the breakups of heterosexual marriages, consistent with the approximately two thirds of divorces wanted by wives reported in other studies (England and Kilbourne 1990; Sayer et al. 2011; Sweene…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:37 PM
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Noone will stop advertising on Twitter because it's not censoring stuff anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:33 PM
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Sexuality doesn't change over time at the fundamental level, only superficial details change. There has never been an age where short men were more attractive for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 01:25 PM
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I don't understand what point you are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:57 PM
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That's just deflection. The laws around consent are the way they are because of women and in some countries, specifically about women. whether that's treating them like children or not for expecting them to ask before they do things that may be unwanted and not pressure people into things they don't want. Yes, that's how you treat children who have no agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:54 PM
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The beauty of it is that it's not just the men of PPD that are disgusted by it. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:49 PM
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WRT the rape threads, people keep disparaging TRP for claiming women are like children and..... proceed to treat them like children. If she lacks the agency to refute a man's sexual advances, she is clearly not an adult.Since society is accomodating that, society clearly also thinks women are children. It seems to me we are only pretending that they aren't for "reasons".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:48 PM
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Oh im not saying it's average. Just not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:41 PM
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And it'll be glorious!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:30 PM
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Wouldn't that be due to lack of resources back then? Of course. Modern times makes it way easier to manage multiple children. Our sexuality and instincts didn't develop in modern times however.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:29 PM
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I agree that it's high and definitely disgusting. I just doubt its very rare in cities. Racking up a high n is easier than it seems. Just fucking a guy every few months will get a woman in that range. Assuming that a woman starts having sex at 17 , it's 3 dudes a year and by the time shes 30 ,shes there. .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:27 PM
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What would be expensive about not censoring stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:10 PM
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It's definitely high n but it's not extremely rare. High ns aren't rare nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 12:08 PM
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Yes... for some of the children. The evolutionary optimal strategy is to take care of some of your progeny and keep spreading your seed leaving the rest of your children fend for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:41 AM
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And attacking Tesla or Musk is......?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:36 AM
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The rules are vague on purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:58 AM
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The little bitch kind
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:57 AM
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I don't think he'll be completely free speech but he definitely will be an improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:56 AM
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I got a three day "harassment" ban from the admins for saying "Being a slut is bad for your dating prospects" In the n-count thread. Who exactly was I harassing? We'll never know.... Daddy Elon please buy Reddit. I can't believe I lost rape week
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:03 AM
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Would probably lose respect for her. Don't know if I would disown/divorce just from that pic but I would if anything whorey was confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:53 AM
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Thanks for confirming that everything you wrote was a revenge fantasy because you hate the thought of a high n-count woman. Yes, that's definitely the conclusion you should draw from what I said! Then there’s no rational about the male value system. Considering the cheating and divorce rates of sluts, I would say its quite rational. Regardless of whether it's rational or not, it is what it is. We've evolved to be averse to investing in sluts due to paternity uncertainty.🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:48 AM
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I see. They should align their chakras and synchronize their vibrations to have the term make a comeback!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:44 AM
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But men are cutting off their moms for having sex with men 30 years ago. Depends on how much and what kind of sex. Oh but he won’t. You know this how? Like I said, a lot of it depends on whether he has options or not. Maybe he won't divorce her but cheat on her! So many good outcomes possible for whores. There’s nothing rational about your argument. It's the male value system. You can have many flaws and we won't mind for most of them. Being a hoe however isnt something we value for serious rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:42 AM
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I'm not gonna read through that Yes, like I said, you tried. The solution is not to read about social behavior. The solution is to socialize. Unfortunately for you, this is a debate sub. Data>anecdotes.I could share anecdotes about how utterly wrong you are but there is no point when I can also back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:38 AM
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Yes, they are..... for idiots. Are you using non-autistic as a stand-in for "moron"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:36 AM
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You tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:32 AM
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Never seen this happen in my life. Then it never happened! Cute revenge fantasy that doesn’t play out in real life. Every man has a good relationship with their mothers! You’re using the word traumatized to describe the feeling of learning that your mom had a sex life before she met your dad. I'm using the word to describe learning that your mom was a slut before she met your dad. I would say it's pretty appropriate. She has a Polaroid picture of it. He knew about it. SHE has a polaroid picture …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:31 AM
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Not much you can do about it if it happened 30 years ago, huh? You can cut your mother off from your life. Never talk to her again? Yes. Lol you’re acting as if the son has some kind of leveraging power because he’s mad that his mom dare to fuck a man that wasn’t his dad 35 years ago. What a motherly mindset. Who cares if your son is traumatized am I right? And yet he had children with her. You are assuming he knew about or that he could better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:23 AM
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Who the fuck doesn't like comfort and stability, especially as they get older Like doesn't mean "wants to fuck".comfort and stability are turn off for women. manosphere myth unless stemlord example. not applicable to most men I already explained how you are wrong in my original comment. Personality definitely makes somebody more attractive and maturity can add to that Considering how sexlessness rates tripled within the last decade, no maturity isn't the reason these dudes arent fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:20 AM
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Caring about your mom’s sex life before your were born is some weird fucking shit man Men don't want their mothers to be whores. Shocking. Second, literally who gives a fuck? Her son. Her son gives a fuck. Clearly the man she married doesn’t care about it so why do you? He does too. Men don't want the mother of their children to be whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:15 AM
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May she rest in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:12 AM
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Despite the catchy name, beta bux isn't just about money. Comfort and stability are included in the term. The point is that they settle for a man they aren't attracted to because he has money, he is stable, looks like he will make money, offers her comfort etc. Maturity has nothing to do with what you find sexually and thus romantically, desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:09 AM
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Are you kitsune?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:26 PM
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I don't know, I have another word for people who can't pinpoint what elicits in them a certain feeling. Dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:15 PM
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Sexlessness rates seem to disagree with you. 1 in 3 young men can't get laid once in a year. Surprisingly, these rates plummet the closer men get to 30 .I wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:20 PM
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I've heard testosterone helps. Check with a doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:19 PM
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There are. Is that the kind of guy women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:31 PM
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/ Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:41 PM
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Looks, status, game. To be high value you need to be top 20% in the combination of these. Yeah I'm high value enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:53 PM
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They are extreme examples of behavior present in different degrees to many/all women and thus easy to point to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:28 PM
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So, not exactly millions or a hundred thousand like you said. Regardless, if you look at the numbers in that study, you will notice quite a lot of difference between men's number and women's. because maybe they suck at their job and overrepresented outliers in their data. By the definition of the word outlier, thats unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:21 PM
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That too although not necessarily just that. Maybe the dude has game or is high status that she calls it vibe or whatever because she doesn't realize that's what makes him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:35 PM
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And from the way you've approached and tried to disprove the claims in the excerpt I have my doubts on whether you understand them. Anyway, Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:22 PM
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I don't invest money in my gf (I haven't used whores either but I'm not against the idea). I'm not talking about just myself, I'm talking in general. Spending money in a chick to suck your dick precludes her from receiving the girlfriend treatment. Women have to think and choose what they prefer. Do they prefer to be treated like whores or do they prefer to be treated like wives and girlfriends. They can't do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:19 PM
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Ah, yes. Explains all those random hook ups they have. The must think the dude doesn't want to fuck them! Women also complain about auras. Vibes, auras, chakras is just what women call someone being attractive to her. It's just that because they can't pinpoint what it is that makes the dude attractive , they use vague nonsense language like "vibes".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:16 PM
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The investment im making to the girlfriend is much greater than the couple hundred bucks I spend on the whore.Im spending my time with her,am exclusive to her,care about her etc. If she wants to be treated like a whore, she can be paid. If she wants to be treated like a girlfriend, she must act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:13 PM
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I could barely get through the excerpt without stopping every two sentences to double check how you got something wrong. I don't know if I could go through a whole book of it. In general from what I see on the excerpt you misunderstand what red pill claims is an evolved natural behavior of women and what's a cultural adaptation. Most glaring example of that is that fertile years comment you make and how that wasn't a concern in our evolutionary past. Yeah, it wasn't.... but it is now. You also d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 05:09 PM
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Yeah, I'd go nuclear in his position
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:57 PM
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You wrote an entire book on red pill and still don't know what it's talking about. That's.... Impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:56 PM
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I have no idea how these two are connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:51 PM
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Human garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:51 PM
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No, ppd doesn't take that much time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:49 PM
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Uh? I saw that one before, it's around 6500 sample size. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/about_nsfg.htm well with moving the average of the other studies to fit between male and female reports Which as I already said, is a completely arbitrary thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:48 PM
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No - they don't need to for average because as long as the sample is representative the average is the same. It's not a problem as long as data is representative. It is, especially if the "overachievers" arent randomly distributed but follow a certain pattern. It's very easy for a sample of a few thousand to end up with the minority group underrepresented depending on how the sample was collected. For example if the sample was specifically made to include people from many states, while certain s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:53 PM
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What do men value in women? Beauty and youth. These, obviously, diminish with age. To get value, you offer value. So the best strategy to get a high value man is to snag him while you are young. There are issues with this, namely that women are horrible at picking men, but age won't make this better. No, being a "bad bitch" is a horrible idea that diminishes your value and will ultimately leave you unfulfilled. The lives you see on Instagram and Tik Too are fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:10 PM
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Random samples are used for non normal distributions This doesn't mean they solve the problem of this particular distribution. How do you think it does? likewise models exist for skewed distributions that normalizes data if required. This doesn't mean anything if the models weren't used in the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:00 PM
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Lol, I used height as an example, height doesn't actually follow an uneven distribution, it follows a normal distribution. Randomised samples don't solve the problem I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:38 PM
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If In a population of millions 10% of people are taller than 1,90m while the rest are 1.70m or shorter, for example, there is no reason to think that the average of a sample of a couple thousands is representative of the actual average of the population. It's very easy for the taller group to be over or under represented in the sample. I haven't seen any n count study with a sample of millions like you are describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:29 PM
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And as I already explained, in a sample with such an uneven distribution as men's count, there is no reason for the two averages to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:09 PM
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And I don't discount them for their sample size, I discount them for being self reports. In the quote I just explained how it's very much possible for women's actual n count to be higher than men's reported one. The reasons women's n count appear low in the studies are : -They are self reports. Men and women lie in their self reported n count as shown in the studies I linked. -They include rural women , which drop the median/average n count.When people in this sub say "modern women are sluts" th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:00 PM
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comment thread suggest very large samples of average n count are not statistically relevant. I haven't done anything of the sort
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:35 PM
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And if you are talking about individuals, you are right. If you are talking about groups, you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:29 PM
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They didn't prove that at all. They just proved different people give different answers. They did. Look at the study. So they discover MORE DIFFERENT PEOPLE GIVE DIFFERENT ANSWERS! And both of them higher with the polygraph. I wonder why.....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:29 PM
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It is. They statistically analyzed the groups and found the difference in answers isn't due to luck. Never mind that the result was replicated in another study as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:09 PM
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It's entertainment. It adds as much value as watching a movie does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:07 PM
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Why? The results of the second group show the first one was lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:06 PM
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It's not mathematically impossible. It's impossible in the actual population but it's very possible to get a situation like that in SAMPLES. especially with such an uneven distribution as mens n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:04 PM
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You can say it's closer to the truth than the first group. You can't say that it's close to the actual truth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:25 AM
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Which you still don't know whether they are true. Polygraphs don't work. Edit:as for whether they should exclude the rural women, they shouldn't. But it makes the number less relevant for the purpose of our sub
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:23 AM
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It is lying. The first group, unaffected by the threat of the polygraph, reported a lower number than the second group.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:22 AM
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But we don't have the exact numbers. We have the numbers they self reported and as shown, women lie about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:21 AM
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It is. It shows the first group was lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:20 AM
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The point of the study was to show they lie. Not to determine an exact number. Its common knowledge that polygraphs don't actually work . Also, another thing that keeps n count studies down is they take rural women into account too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:52 AM
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No. That's why they use stats.Since the average number between the groups was different, they were affected by the threat of the polygraph. Otherwise they would be the same. 200 people can give meaningful statistical observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:49 AM
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How would that make me sick?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:46 AM
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My gods you are a catch. I'm gonna go against the grain and say he probably just wants to bang you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:45 AM
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Im perfectly healthy 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:39 AM
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You cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:38 AM
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They do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:53 AM
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Very understandable. Thankfully I'm here to save you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:52 AM
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*Slut country man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:20 AM
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The mojo. The fatal attraction. The moves. The ooga boonga.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:18 AM
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Glad you agree ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:10 AM
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Vibes? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:10 AM
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I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:09 AM
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I'm not, you are just lost in your own strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:05 AM
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and so do men Indeed. It’s the irony of making blanket statements for one gender but any blanket statements made against your own is all of a sudden unfair and not true. Oh, that's because you are all making stupid statements. All men are rapists for example is patently false. Now if you said "rape is part of men's nature ", it would be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:02 AM
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AWALT means that women have a certain nature and sexuality. This means that their attraction works a certain way. It doesn't mean all women will ACT a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:57 AM
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In case you are wondering, I still got it 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:55 AM
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Red pill accepts how women are. Accept =/ approve. It is what it is. This doesn't mean that it's good. In fact in this particular case, it's bad. We just acknowledge it and take advantage of it. Consequently, they have an aura of anger and generally mock women Auras? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:55 AM
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Its really not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:53 PM
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Then they wouldn't be inconsistent with it. They wouldn't be making some men wait and others not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:47 PM
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Tell me slowly what kind of sub this is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 08:56 PM
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Unless you disagree with ne
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:32 PM
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🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 05:13 PM
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"Wrongly".lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:58 PM
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Delaying or forgoing motherhood for example. Because society was less artificial. We lacked the technology that make modern humans deviate so much from their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:14 PM
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No having an erection is natural not getting one means there’s a flaw in the system. So, women not having maternal instincts means there is a flaw in the system. I don’t think there are any major psychological traits that are natural. So, blank slate theory? I didn't think there was anyone that still believed in it. The differences aren’t superficial as what was considered wildly unfeminine in the past would fly as feminine now Because modern society is unnatural. There wasn't anything like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 04:09 PM
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I wouldn't try or want to save any pornstar. I would definitely fuck them beyond salvation however. At their peak: Anya olsen, Kendall lust, Julia Ann, ava addams and Sasha Grey
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:57 PM
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... Who else is creating planes if not natural humans? Is it aliens? Culture is artificial, not natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:51 PM
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"Men without ED exist therefore erections aren't natural. " -You right now. An example of a natural trait that cannot be influenced by culture or time? And example of a psychological trait that you consider natural that can't be influenced by culture or time. Actually in the world where this is studied there are constant arguments over what is considered feminine as the definition isn’t constant across all cultures currently and has been different in the past. The differences are superficial. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:45 PM
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If cultures are a product of nurture which is natural. Then large cultures are also a product of the natural. "If planes are a product of metal, which is natural, then planes are natural" ^ this is you right now. Evolution has no purpose except to survive. Evolutions purpose isnt to survive. It's to produce the greatest amount of offspring that will live long enough to produce offspring of their own. Which is why there are more humans than rabbits. Human females have evolved to maximize child re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:30 PM
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Great, so since women can use protection, there is no need for abortion to be legal! That's the argument being flinged at men afterall.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:20 PM
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If they don't want their bodies to change... they can just wear a condom or take the pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:14 PM
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Tbf, that's probably more to do with the enforced celibacy in these circles. Lack of sex can fuck up a lot of shit in the male brain
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 03:08 PM
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Women were designed to produce offspring. They still do. That’s it. They were designed to produce and RAISE offspring. That’s only if you believe biological imperitive is to produce as many kids as possible. I’m not sure that it is. You should take some highschool biology classes then. Everything about women is designed around that role. They gave up their ability to run effectively and fight so that their wide hips can produce children more successfully. They developed more empathy to better un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:56 PM
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No it didn’t as many women will self admit that maternal characteristics were learned by them but aren’t their natural state. Ah, yes. Women's anecodtes. A very trustworthy metric. A natural phenomena doesn’t need to be physical but it does have to be without influence of culture and time. Can you give an example of such a phenomenon? Considering there’s not a widely accepted definition of femininity across all cultures for all of time it’s not a natural state. There is a lot of consensus on it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 02:50 PM
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So, according to you, only physical reactions are natural. Fascinating "logic" You can reproduce without being maternal in nature. You can, but your child will be less likely to survive. So evolution chose against it when it came to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:10 PM
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Nurture influences nature but only to a degree. Womens nature is to be maternal. That's literally the role women were made to fulfil, something of such great priority they've sacrificed anything that would make them survive on their own in order to do so. Modern society has made women to be LESS maternal, 1950s society made women MORE maternal.Being less maternal goes against womens main biological imperative, so it's less natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:07 PM
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What kind of logic is that? Why would something being nature mean it's not influenced by nurture? Men's nature is to be polygynous rapist killers, nurture has influenced us to not act like that. It forced women to be mothers, that doesn’t make someone maternal .... It literally does. What evolutionary benefit is there for women to NOT be maternal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:01 PM
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They are being socialised to act in ways they naturally wouldn't . Whether these behaviors are masculine or not is not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:20 PM
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Women were taught and forced to be the perfect 1950s wife. Yes. This doesn't mean that that state isn't closer to natural feminity than today's. Modern women are also being nurtured to act the way they do today. Neither state is natural but I would say the 1950s one is closer to it because it produced more maternal women, which is women's natural role.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 12:18 PM
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Just because nature is a thing, doesn't mean that nurture has no influence. While women's nature isn't 100% 1950s feminity, its closer to that than today's expression of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:10 AM
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Girl A obviously. I can MOG any of her past partners 😎.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:07 AM
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