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Disease is normal. Excrement is normal. Cancer is normal. That doesn't mean they're appealing.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 08:25 PM
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Apparently, some people just don't understand sarcasm.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 08:23 PM
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That might be an optimistic ratio
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 04:37 PM
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You're arguing aggregate results, wheras I'm looking at the effect of an individual. For an individual, the effect over the paltry time of a millenium even assuming very long generartions is a rounding error. That's even assuming implicitly that what makes one MGTOW even has a genetic component, which seems dubious to say the least.
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 11:53 PM
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Far too much is made of passing on genes in this context. If you look over sufficiently long timelines, say 500 or a thousand years, whether you had kids or not is pretty irrelevant. Consider, let's say the average generation is 33 years. That's almost certainly way too high, but it makes the numbers worse for my contention. So, 500 years would be 15 generations. Direct descendants of yours would owe 1/(2)15 of their genes to you. That's one part in over 32 thousand, or 0.003%. A thousand years …
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 10:25 PM
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Unless they accuse the Dem nominee for POTUS, and then either don't believe them or hold it doesn't matter. Related, you saw the same thing with Prime Minister and Governor Blackface (Treaudeau and Northam, respectively).
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 10:10 PM
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Or Bone Tomahawk
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/20 01:23 AM
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Really? There's a lot of women in their 40s wanting to have children?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/20 01:11 AM
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Whether they're all taken or not is moot: you don't deserve one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/05/20 12:21 AM
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The acknowledgement that there are simps willing and eager to line up for that always saddens me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/20 07:07 PM
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Most men simply can't be saved. One can be frustrated by this reality, and rail against it, but it's reality none-the-less.
/r/MGTOW07/05/20 08:05 PM
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I'm not so sure that "truth always prevails". However, ultimately, I do think most people will act in their own best interests. Given the potential liability for the man in heretofore "normal" heterosexual relationships, it follows that a growing number of men will limit their exposure to the downsides of interacting with women. The amount this is done for a specific man is the result of his own risk/reward calculation but it looks a though on average men are hedging their bets.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 06:20 PM
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The better question is: why take on an elective responsibility? Particularly one that has such a potential liability?
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 08:32 PM
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It's not like you're under contract. If it works for you now, great. If you need to be divorced rape or falsely accused of rape to adopt MGTOW, then risk those.
/r/MGTOW222/04/20 08:54 PM
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Rather revealing: she wants her men to only want one thing, while variety is only for her.
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 12:13 AM
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I agree with her: healthy men are generally MUCH more valuable now. Consider, who still has a job? Those whose jobs are deemed "essential". Outside of nursing, men dominate those sorts of jobs (delivery, truck driver, LEOs, grocery stores other than waning need for cashiers, etc). Even IN nursing, men make up a majority of ICU nurses: http://medicalandhealthcare.com/articles/nursing/most-male-nurses-work-in-intensive-care-unit-icu.html
/r/MGTOW13/04/20 04:11 PM
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It's such a "privilege" that dowries were the norm in very many cultures. Hell, some still have them. With rare exception (extremely rare), women are a cost sink. In order to be willing to eat that cost, up front lump sum payment is required. Even then, it wouldn't be worth it, but it offsets some of the opportunity costs being burdened with a wife causes.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 09:20 PM
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It apparently is a very profitable site. I'm sure they'd just ramp up their severs/bandwidth. Thots are going to thot, simps are going to simp. While sad, they are still men making their own choices. I think most here would say astonishingly bad choices, but those are theirs to make. The only thing you can control is your own behavior. It's also the only thing you should want to control, unless you have some sort of white knight/savior complex. If it doesn't affect you, then it's really not your…
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 05:19 PM
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LOL. Now I'm hearing the old theme song with that phrase. I can also envision a version with the characters replaced by various infectious diseases. For instance, Piglet would become Swine Flu, Eeyore would become Ebola (phonetically similar), etc. You could even film it using the plushies from https://www.giantmicrobes.com/us/ who are finally making a Chinese Flu one.
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 08:49 PM
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Is now a good time to hook up with random strangers from a "dating" app?
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 08:44 PM
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One can hope but due our biology, men are very susceptible despite rational arguments to the contrary. This is particularly true of the young, both due to the (relative) lack of experience and (relative) higher intensity of the thirst.
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 06:50 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if there's a mini-baby boom 9 months from now. Between many people being encouraged/required to stay home (i.e. Netflix and chill) and the strategy of extracting resources by purposeful neediness, both the opportunity and impetus for becoming preggers have increased.
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 03:34 PM
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I suspect the lions share of women who behave so didn't have fathers in their lives.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/20 10:22 AM
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If things continue to spiral, expect an increase in both shaming and flattery to cajole you to "step up" and "be a man". I'm preaching to the choir, but this is a trap. I hope everyone is being safe, but physically and socially.
/r/MGTOW26/03/20 04:39 PM
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I suspect Tinder isn't the optimal site for that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/20 11:48 PM
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All interactions are transactional: I do this, get that. Someone does this for me, I give them that. The key is evaluating whether the transactions you are engaging are actually "good deals" or not, rather than just coasting because they're setup as recurring. That could be a job, a relationship, or where you stop for coffee in the morning. Constant evaluation and re-evaluation should be the rule. "Society" is just a convenient fiction, or statistical aggregate, of the trillions of such transact…
/r/MGTOW05/03/20 05:25 PM
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I normally don't blame the other man or other woman: they didn't make an oath before you, their family, their state, and their god to be faithful. However, the father?!? JFC, I put at least equal blame on him.
/r/MGTOW04/03/20 07:18 PM
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You're a cuck if you raise another man's offspring, no matter what the circumstances.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 08:15 PM
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The problem is that there are people who genuinely believe this. Thus, it's not necessarily obvious sarcasm. That's why it's generally a good idea to use the /s tag when you are being sarcastic. A great deal of conveying sarcasm is in voice inflection, which is completely absent in text.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 08:02 PM
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It's all part of the five stages of grief that occurs when the Disney bullshit is finally seen through. It is traumatic, finally realizing that a large part of what you've been told about the nature of relationships is complete and utter nonsense. There will be anger, there will be depression, and both of these contribute to the "mocking up bitches". All part of the healing process, and not everyone is at the same stage at any given time.
/r/MGTOW10/02/20 06:14 PM
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That's why he said don't date single moms. You're going to get sucked into problems and "responsibilities" that are not yours. It's just not worth it.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 02:55 AM
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Don't even bother with that chameleon training academy sub. They affect a fake horn to present themselves as unicorns, but they're still just the garden variety nags underneath. They really aren't worth the time.
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 08:04 PM
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Preferences are just that, preferences. The heart wants what the heart wants, so there's nothing wrong at all with not being attracted to <demographic> for any value of <demographic>. That could be hair, eye, or skin color, body type, or any characteristic. Doesn't matter.
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 03:36 PM
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It is liberating: society does not care about you, so you owe society nothing. You are cannon fodder, grist for the mill, bones for the broth if you let them. You ARE disposable, a commodity to be used up and then discarded like Animal Farm's Boxer. The difference is, you know it, and thus with clear conscience owe no one anything, let alone the theoretical construct "society". That doesn't give license to be a monster, but it damn sure doesn't give responsibility to be a hero. There's enough of…
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 01:13 PM
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I wouldn't say that idea is counter to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW03/02/20 11:40 PM
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If they could, they wouldn't feel the need to ban/quarantine/put on wrongthink list. All it takes is hearing the name MGTOW to spread the word. Those open to the hard truth that means forgetting the Disney bullshit will embrace it. Those not, won't. Pretty simple really.
/r/MGTOW03/02/20 11:32 PM
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Neither MGTOW nor T_D are hard sells. Either you get it, or you go through ever more elaborate convolutions to avoid the simple reality. That includes finding nonsense reasons to quarantine/ban/put on a naughty list. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW03/02/20 11:00 PM
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Marriage for men is like the lottery: a voluntary tax on people bad at math.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/20 01:25 PM
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JFC, people can talk about whatever the hell they want to talk about. I'm not into sports at all, haven't been since I was a kid, but I don't begrudge people talking about it at work. Not everything has to be for everyone. I suppose by the same token that one would want to curtail discussion of say Hallmark movies, or soap operas, or any sort of entertainment that skews female because it excludes men.
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 02:18 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me that women don't/won't/can't understand that their ideal of feminine beauty or attractiveness is different than that of most men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/20 09:00 PM
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I don't blame the women for fulfilling an obvious demand. I blame the men for making that demand, and being willing to pay for it to be fulfilled. I really don't get it, why anybody would spend a dime on them. It's not like there isn't porn freely available on the internet.
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 11:01 PM
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Even without that, I'd say "30" should preclude that on the list as well. Pretty damn sad for anyone past normal college age, 25 tops. It would be like a 30 yo having "legos" as a hobby.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/20 08:19 PM
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It's so sad that even with the monumental red flag of having 3 kids at 19, a fat ass, and the gut of a 50 yo, there are probably Captain Sav-a-hos out there who will sign up. SMH
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/20 03:46 PM
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Just give them your best Covington smile, but remain silent. It will drive them up a wall. As for social media, stay apoltical on the one with your real name. Personally, I find it ill-advised to post anything on any topic under one's real name. My evaluation of Facebook hasn't changed since I first heard about it in ~2006: Great, one-stop shopping for stalkers. It's actually worse than that now, since one has to worry about losing a job, or access to a platform, or any number of things based on…
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 07:11 PM
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LinkedIn has always been essentially Facebook for jobseekers anyway. It is amazing how she wants to spin being unprepared (not having pen and paper, or a phone with note-taking function) as a virtue. I would never work with a woman with kids, let alone hire one.
/r/MGTOW23/12/19 05:05 PM
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I guess writing "MGTOW on Reddit" on bathroom walls has had some effect
/r/MGTOW20/12/19 06:01 PM
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I would say that no MGTOW has ever "recruited" another one. The most that happens is that it can be pointed out that no, you do not need to adopt the "I will work harder" mantra of Animal Farm's Boxer since it will both never be successful and have you in the Glue Factory at the end of your usefulness.
/r/MGTOW20/12/19 06:00 PM
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She's slept with 40+ guys by the age of 22, and she wonders why she's treated with all the care shown for a community bike. Sure, people will ride it when they need it, but they'll just leave it where it falls when they're done.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/19 04:56 PM
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Wow, talk about being invited into a minefield: a newborn and the baby daddy is still involved/in the relationship but he doesn't know she's shopping for a replacement. That has Springer-type drama written all over it, for a chick who's less than a month out from popping one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/12/19 03:51 PM
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We'll take that under advisement.
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 11:04 PM
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Better GF than wife, and hopefully you don't have kids with her.
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 08:49 PM
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The guy is willing to settle for sloppy seconds. Correction, fourths. He just doesn't like being reminded of it.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 11:01 PM
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I have to wonder how many inquiries such a profile gets. I assume most of them would be by men wanting a no-risk lay. Well, no paternity suit risk at any rate, though there's the risk of baby-daddy drama/violence and of course STDs. But really, a pregger? Are there that many men on the dating apps who have such a fetish, or are that desperate? Hmm, I may have answered my own question.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/19 05:04 PM
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I saw something on the dumpster fire known as /r/feminism: https://i.redd.it/a2u6euq6wr341.jpg With just the slightest alterations, it is actually a damn good synopsis of MGTOW: MGOTW didn't teach me to hate women, but it did teach me to stop prioritizing them over myself. And it turns out a lot of women think that is the same thing as hatred. I guess a blind squirrel does find an acorn once in a while, though completely accidentally and of course completely backwards. Yeah, that's a problem tha…
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 11:23 PM
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I'm not sure it's the government so much, at least in the U.S. Rather it's the 76 billion USD wedding industry. That's just weddings. Source for figure: https://www.ibisworld.com/united-states/market-research-reports/wedding-services-industry/ That's larger than the sum of all major sports (NFL, NBA, MLB, etc) combined. Those are certainly pervasive in media reach, but nothing compared to the marriage-divorce-family court complex. I think it might be a case of putting on the "They Live" glasses:…
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 08:21 PM
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Few can learn from the mistakes of others. The information is out there and it's hardly a secret that marriage is a failed institution. Hubris of being "different", "too smart", or having a woman who is "not like the others" leads many men to ruin. The only thing a man can do is not be one of them.
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 01:21 PM
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Noice!
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 09:12 PM
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...or their own way...
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 07:31 PM
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It mystifies me why anybody pays any attention to this snot-nosed retard. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 05:48 PM
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Already locked
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 05:43 PM
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It's a case of Doctor Johnson's dog (https://www.nytimes.com/1985/01/01/opinion/l-dr-johnson-s-dog-185745.html): 'Sir, a woman's preaching is like a dog's walking on his hinder legs. It's not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.'' This can be and is applied to all manner of skills and activities.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 05:29 PM
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LOL. Ok, that's pretty good.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 05:25 PM
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Conferences are primarily social interaction rather than actual work, and speaking at one makes that person the center of attention. Now does women being interested in conferences make sense?
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 01:00 PM
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In all honesty, it wouldn't overly surprise me if this story was a MGTOW plant: the mentioning of divorce statistics and the pursuit of work and passions are among the pillars of MGTOW. While many men independently come to these conclusions without knowing the name, this is Reddit after all.
/r/MGTOW05/12/19 10:37 PM
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And the divorce rate is even higher than the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography Sort by rate to see this, for the EU as a whole and significantly higher for some individual countries. Why would one engage in an endeavor that has no real upside, and so much downside?
/r/MGTOW05/12/19 09:01 PM
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LMAO. It's MGTOW, if there's a fundamental unifying principle, that's it. And you might want to look into divorce law in Europe. Alimony is a thing there and, according to this definition, it only goes one way: https://lawlegal.eu/alimony/
/r/MGTOW05/12/19 08:46 PM
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Hmmm, not sure it's a good idea to hope history vindicates your choice to GYOW. That's really no different than the MGTOW who relish how much more attractive they are to women because of their choice. Both rely on some sort of external validation, either historical judgement or female. If either are of concern, then perhaps an examination of why you're GYOW is in order. Let's say as a hypothetical that history 50 years from now judges MGTOW as incel losers who eventually fizzled out. Would that …
/r/MGTOW05/12/19 06:02 PM
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Absolutely right but they don't even have to go on Insta or Tinder if they don't want: just get preggers and start collecting government/cuck checks. It's insane, rewarding irresponsible behavior, but that's the reality of it.
/r/MGTOW04/12/19 09:49 PM
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Possibly not just the bedroom or bathroom, though. Since she is living there, she may have a legally recognized expectation of privacy for what would be hidden third party video recording. That is captured on video by herself without her knowledge. If you are on the video, that may change things.
/r/MGTOW30/11/19 02:47 PM
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According to http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/new-york-recording-law New York is a one-party consent state. That means that as long as you are involved in the conversation, you can record without informing the other party. I believe that since it's your property, you can videotape https://legalbeagle.com/6835639-new-york-state-laws-videotaping.html However, since it's also her property, the "expectation of privacy" may supersede this. Just not sure about that.
/r/MGTOW30/11/19 01:20 PM
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I like the old line "If I see something I haven't seen before, I'll shoot it".
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 10:51 PM
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"Social Science" isn't really science, though, since the vast majority relies on self-reported data. I mean, sure, you can run all manner of statistical analysis, make pretty graphs, etc, but the underlying data is suspect at best. That's even ignoring that it's inevitably agenda-driven. Here's a question, though: if there's not a disparity in the ability to obtain sex on demand, why do the vast majority of prostitutes and escorts cater to men? Or do you deny that as well? While it's self-report…
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 05:09 PM
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It just amazes me that they expect to be able to depict men in the most bigoted stereotypical fashion, as a combination of stupid, bungling, clueless, and evil, and then are shocked that men stay away in droves. I mean, sure, if that's "your truth", by all means put it up on the screen. However, don't expect me to pay for it. While a bit on the hyperbolic side, Banks reaction is comparable to David Duke or Richard Spencer being upset and/or shocked that blacks wouldn't want to see their movie, l…
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 04:48 PM
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LOL. Yeaaaaah. If you only believe what social scientists (an oxymoron if ever there was one) tell you, well, that's your choice. Godspeed to you. Personally, I don't need to reference a research paper to know water is wet, but YMMV.
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 01:54 PM
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I wouldn't live in fly-through country like NY on a bet.
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 11:47 PM
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I bet the flashers love that...
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 11:38 PM
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This is relatively straight-forward observation. If your experience differs, then it is unusual. However, surely you aren't suggesting that Nw = Nm above? Or that the average teenage boy has as easy access to sex as a comparable girl? Or that men in their 30s are anywhere near as desperate to get married as women of that age?
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 10:29 PM
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He should have arrested her for indecent exposure.
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 09:55 PM
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Of course I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that the relative market value, and hence quantity of realistic options to choose, changes. The typical (i.e. average) thirsty 16 year old boy has very little leverage or power in being picky, Likewise, the average 30 year old woman doesn't have a great deal of leeway in being picky. Consider the plethora of all "Where have all the Good Men Gone" type articles that appear in various MSM media outlets. They're there, of course, but they have many…
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 09:26 PM
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"Dating sites" in general, and ones like Tinder in particular, are not for "dating" by whatever Disney 1950s idea she has of that, they're for hookups. It would be like complaining that Jack-In-The-Box doesn't have Fois Gras or a decent wine selection. Lady, you're the one looking at the wrong place but expecting it to change to accommodate you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/19 08:30 PM
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Chad's have to have relatively high-value features to rack up a high count. Women just have to be willing to spread their legs. Here's a gedanken experiment. A man and a woman, each of medium-high attractiveness, call them each 7s. Each of them goes up to a member of the opposite sex in a bar and after the very briefests of pleasantries asks simply "Do you want to have sex?". Now, in good conscience, on average how many times do you think the woman would have to try until she got a "yes", and ho…
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 07:07 PM
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Women choose who they fuck in their teens and 20s, and thus call the shots on what is/isn't desirable. Men choose who they marry in their 30s, and thus call the shots on what is/isn't desirable. You can call either unfair if you're so inclined, but that's the time-dependent function of the relative sexual/relationship market value.
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 07:00 PM
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If only she had been as careful with her box as her inbox, she wouldn't be in this mess.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/19 06:51 PM
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LOL. Pregnant, and looking to date. Talk about closing the barn door after the horse ran off. In the equestrian theme, I suppose this is more like trying to sell a saddle to someone who doesn't own a horse. It still amazes me that there are takers but, like telemarketers, it must work or they wouldn't keep doing it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/19 06:47 PM
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MGTOW can and do have girlfriends. MGTOW is not identically equal to monk mode, monks are a subset of MGTOW. The red line is marriage as far as I'm concerned.
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 08:34 PM
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My suspicion is this was a calculated move by Disney, to drive subscriptions to its streaming service. If the Mandalorian had started out as the usual cringey girl-power manifesto like so many other of its properties, there would have been a chunk of Star Wars fans who just wouldn't bother. So far, the only property like that which has been successful is Captain Marvel, though it can be argued that wasn't due so much to its own merits as it was being sandwiched between Infinity Wars and End Game…
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 05:32 PM
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They haven't wanted equality in a long time, rather "equity", meaning identical outcomes no matter the effort or skill involved. Hence the outrage over the earnings gap. Well, except for the bad stuff, like crime apparently. They want special carve-outs there, judging by the above.
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 05:11 PM
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Let me guess, Hallmark channel? Dude, it's a chick flick, what did you expect? I don't begrudge women having their specialized genres but, of course, they hold no interest for men. Edit: Ok, Netflix. Hell, I'm pretty sure there was a Hugh Jackman movie with that exact plot, but the time period he came from was more like the 19th century.
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 05:02 PM
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Godspeed to you, good sir.
/r/MGTOW221/11/19 06:03 PM
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Well done! One trap that men fall into, and which you did as well, was the "problem-solver" quagmire. Men are problem solvers, it's what we do. It's both a strength and a weakness. You tried to "solve" the failed relation initially by attempting to change some of the parameters: behaving differently, changing priorities, etc. Of course it didn't work, it never does, since new "problems" appear as the result of these "solved problems" and, of course, she points the finger at you for being solely …
/r/MGTOW221/11/19 05:38 PM
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Bad behavior should have immediate bad consequences. Unfortunately, this has been forgotten/suppressed in the West, much to its detriment.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 05:17 PM
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Good god, talk about revisionist history! I went to arcades in the 80s and even into the early 90s. While they weren't exclusively male spaces, females were always in a tiny minority if they were present at all. This was true even at the "upscale" arcades, such as Dave and Busters.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 04:55 PM
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You are 100% correct which is why MRAs are fighting a hopeless battle. There is no democratic solution, there is no systemic solution. We are already living in the post-apocalypse, just with more complicated rules than how those are usually portrayed. Individual survival in the morass is the only thing.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 11:32 PM
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Maybe that just shows women aren't very interesting.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 11:14 PM
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I turned down a job 10 years ago that had a 25% bump in pay partially because part of the job would have been serving as mentor to two junior women of breeding age. I had already been burnt by being stuck covering women not once but twice in my career while they popped out babies, and it was pure hell. My job is already beyond full-time, and doubling up makes that even worse. Salaried, no additional compensation it's "just expected". No WAY would I have risked that nightmare scenario again. That…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 11:11 PM
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I doubt it's a chick.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 08:45 PM
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Resident Evil as well and that franchise had six movies over 14 years. Not the greatest, but some fun action schlock. However, let's say you're right. What do you plan to do about it? Make another movie that you upfront say is "for women" and then complain when men don't go to it? According to Midnight's Edge (youtuber film channel which usually isn't political), the demographics breakdown of your Charlie's Angels had fewer women see it than they did the last Rambo movie on opening weekend. I su…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 07:49 PM
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Seems the trolls are out today.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 07:23 PM
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LMAO. If you want chameleon training, /r/RedPillWomen would be the place.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 07:18 PM
10

Yeah, which is why I'm declaring March 8 as International Urinal Day, all in the interest of promoting being a stand up guy.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 10:19 PM
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Ah, so he likes being a nanny with benefits. Maybe he wants to be the man now? Shrug. Either way, that is just fucked up.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 09:33 PM
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Far too many men have a sickness, egged on and encouraged by the prevailing culture. That's the only explanation for an otherwise reasonable man to take on such an unnecessary burden willingly. Desperation? Hero complex? I can't say I know, but it's something.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 08:40 PM
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Has he been oblivious to the prevailing culture his entire life? There is a 70 billion a year wedding industry which inundates the media with ads that cater virtually exclusively to the bride. The only time the man is mentioned is when the stereotypical clueless dude has to be guided by some wise jeweler concerning what engagement ring he should blow six months salary on. There's a whole movie genre, RomComs, dedicated to the woman's fantasy of snagging some hapless but perfect fellow. There are…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 06:50 PM
2

At this point, there should be no doubt that the techno-corporatists have a specific ideology that does not include honoring men for anything other than serving women, even for a day and even under the most general terms. This is, ultimately, good: we have no responsibility to a society or civilization that does not respect us. It's just as well men weren't thrown a meaningless bone for a made-up meaningless day since it displays quite clearly that men as a group are held with no regard by these…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 05:30 PM
6

That makes it better how? Are brothers the pack mules of their sisters?
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 05:00 PM
25

SMH. So damn sad. Pure speculation and, of course, I could very well be wrong, but I'd wager that boy is the son of a single mother.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 04:19 PM
5

This. Under any and all circumstances.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 04:15 PM
3

Heh. There should be a distinction made: FatherB and FatherC, for biological and cuck (i.e. wallet) father respectively. (n.b. I'd prefer to use subscripts, but there doesn't seem to be a way in reddit)
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 04:10 PM
11

IF the kid is not his, he's not his. He has no responsibility to raise another man's son, particularly when he was tricked already to do so for five years. Call him a villain all you want, but biological reality trumps shaming language.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 03:00 PM
10

That would be the smart move, otherwise he's cucking. Reality trumps illusion. Sure, it'll hurt both him and the kid, but that's entirely on the mother. Of course, even debating such a thing is exactly why women do this and continue to do this: she can count on cucks "manning up" (heh) to take care of her children. While definitions can vary, I contend that a real man is one who will endure some emotional pain in order to avoid being shamed and/or taking on a responsibility that is not his. They…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 02:57 PM
28

The paternity test matters because if he's not yours, he's not yours. IF that's the case, you've been cucking for five years, raising another man's bastard. Of course, having been tricked, you've developed a fondness for the child. If it's not yours, you need to rip that bandaid off. Notice the implicit assumption regarding the role of fathers: the only thing that's deemed important is their utility as a father (i.e. acting like one) rather than the biological reality of paternity. Even question…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 01:33 PM
2

As long as men perceive it as a seller's market, they will continue to overpay.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/11/19 09:45 PM
7

Who's man enough to cuck for another man's bastard child? /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/19 01:36 PM
3

I call it "the victim olympics", where seeking pity is elevated to a competitive and noble cause.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/19 08:18 PM
1

Her profile and the stereotypical search for love reminds me of "The Naked Gun" quote: I've finally found someone I can love - a good, clean love... without utensils.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/19 06:05 PM
5

What is actually pervy and creepy is someone overly interested in a relationship between two consenting adults.
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 05:49 PM
9

I don't know who any of these people are, so perhaps I have some objectivity in this matter. I gather that he is very successful in something. In that pic, he could pass for 40s fairly easily. She, on the other hand, is a rough 20. I could believe she was on the other side of 30 without much convincing. Consequently, despite their chronological age difference, their apparent age difference isn't all that much and well within normal social conventions. As has been pointed out, notice that she is …
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 02:03 PM
13

Right, or the whole "women in STEM" thing, since those fields generally earn well. They've been throwing money at women to go into STEM since at least the mid 80s (scholarships, grants, etc), and it still hasn't made much of a dent.
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 02:17 AM
6

Well, it depends on what they're claiming the "wage gap" is: if they claim that women earn about 67 cents or more for every dollar a man makes, then yes, women would be earning more for less work.
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 02:15 AM
26

It's been illegal in the U.S. for almost 60 years to pay women less than men for the same work and with the same experience. However, the persistence of the "gender wage gap" myth, more accurately called an "earnings gap", is due to women love winning the victim olympics. The simple truth is that, as a group, they don't work as much as men and that completely explains why as a group they earn less. Women participate in the labor force at a much lower rate than men: https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables…
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 10:42 PM
16

JFC, at least half of them are women: https://goodmenproject.com/about/ Sorry, ladies, you don't get to define what a "good man" is. You could define how a man can be of utility to you, but who cares about that? Women and cucks.
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:26 PM
27

A pregnant stripper... Just how thirsty does a man have to be?
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:14 PM
1

MGTOW is a male Praying Mantis not only realizing he is making a fatal mistake by acting on his instincts but putting that epiphany into action.
/r/MGTOW08/11/19 05:28 PM
11

I think it sends the message that it's shameful to be unmarried And having a kid, yes, yes it is. and that I'm not to be trusted to state who the father is on my child's birth record. No, no you're not.
/r/MGTOW07/11/19 04:46 PM
3

A brief glance makes it seem that sub is just RPW with less, but not no, female responsibility.
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 08:51 PM
1

Absolutely. The FIT in the U.S. back in the 1910s was some low single digit rate on those making something ungodly for the time, maybe even over a million. Now look at it.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 09:13 PM
2

It's a matter of semantics to some extent. If you earn 400k, and the government gets 300k, then that's a 75% tax rate. Yes, you are paying 300% more in taxes than you net, but tax rates are generally on what you earn. Sure, there's a generational aspect to it, but the reactions and behavioral modifications of people currently affected are still important. If anything, arguably more important: if the younger set sees that the older set determines that paying that rate isn't worth the work, traini…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 07:11 PM
2

Even hard drives if they fail usually fail near the beginning of usage. I still have a 5 GB hard drive from 1997 that still worked when I pulled it from the computer I built that year. I did this about two years ago, and that computer still worked when I junked it.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 06:06 PM
2

True, but presumably this 75% income tax will only affect those making multiple six figures or more. You know, Doctors, Lawyers, CEOs, etc. If you only get to keep a quarter out of every dollar over a certain amount, why bother? So, you have those professions cutting back earnings by cutting back productivity, or dropping out entirely. Neither case bodes well for a growing economy, which means higher unemployment and the necessity to raise those high earner FIT even more. Lather, rinse, repeat.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 05:59 PM
8

42% Sales tax is a fantastic way to wreck consumer spending. A 75% income tax is a great way to get even more people to drop out of the workforce.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 04:54 PM
4

Like anything else, it's a cost/risk/benefit calculation. Under the current legal and social framework, the 1950s definition of "manning up" as expressed in this meme is demonstrably not worth the cost or risk for a man.
/r/MGTOW23/10/19 04:53 PM
13

It's the kind of advice that everyone agrees is wise, yet a sizable percentage ignores. I suspect it's due to ease and convenience more than anything else but, like fast food, you will eventually pay a price.
/r/MGTOW22/10/19 06:04 PM
9

Too damn bad. There shouldn't be segregation in sports anyway: let the best person win, no matter the sex. However, since there is segregation in order to allow some demographic an unfair advantage, then this culture jamming "I identify as female" in order to compete is very amusing.
/r/MGTOW21/10/19 08:11 PM
8

They really don't understand that men take steps to protect themselves from harm. Railing against unfairness, injustice, etc, won't protect a man falsely accused. Consequently, in order to reduce the probability of that happening, precautions such as the Pence rule are taken. It's not "punishing" anyone, it's taking prudent steps in a potentially dangerous environment.
/r/MGTOW21/10/19 08:05 PM
7

The old engineering adage applies: Fast, Cheap, Good. At best, choose two. At best, OLD is fast and cheap.
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 03:40 PM
59

Somebody is upping their game. It was just a sharpie of "MGTOW on Reddit" previously.
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 06:45 PM
2

There's the concept known as the "sunk cost fallacy". Because I've spent X dollars/hours/whatever and the project still isn't profitable, I need to spend Y until it is otherwise I'll lose my sunk cost X. While occasionally one may recover X, it'll be at cost Y, so you're still in the negative. So then you spend Z to recover Y, etc. It's a spiral that rarely if ever breaks even let alone actually nets. Yeah, it sucks and may be difficult, but look at it this way: you paid her to tutor you in the …
/r/MGTOW203/10/19 01:15 PM
1

No matter what his ability to maintain professional distance, that won't protect him from a false allegation. I would say unless there's a compelling reason (need the money, getting scrutinized about current clientele, etc), there's no reason to risk it.
/r/MGTOW202/10/19 09:31 PM
15

You are correct.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/19 06:21 PM
37

It is amazing she thinks she can still run and have adventures while raising kids. Sorry, toots, unless you want to be labeled a bad mom, your running days are done.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/19 04:07 PM
1

Ok, you ceded the increased difficulty for the male pursuer when he is older. That's a start. If the pursuer is younger, the links I provided show that there is a virtually non-existent market for young men if they are seeking out a sugarmomma compared to a young woman seeking out a sugardaddy. This is evident in the relative sizes of the different communities, as well as the activity, and can not be explained by the demographic skew of reddit.
/r/MGTOW202/10/19 12:13 PM
2

Thanks. I think I made it up. If I got it from somewhere, I don't remember nor the source.
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 11:52 AM
1

So Now we're back to talking about older men? Lol We were discussing both. "Demographic skew" what does that even mean it's like you're completely talking out of your ass at this point The fact you originally brought up that Reddit was disproportionately male in comparison to the general populace. I provided a link that backed up that claim, at roughly a 2:1 ratio. That's what skewed means.
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 10:51 PM
8

The fire won't be extinguished until the pot boils over.
/r/MGTOW01/10/19 10:02 PM
1

Like I said this proves its easier for older men to find younger women, not the reverse. If it were easier, it would be free and not a paid service. That is, if it were easier for older men, they wouldn't need to hire someone to help them attain their goal. Even if this is true, that there's less women going to reddit to be sugar mommies, again this doesn't prove the proportion of old female to younger male is any different. There could just be less males looking for sugar mommies as well as the…
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 09:49 PM
5

1410? What battle is that? If it were 1415, that would be Agincourt. I still watch Branagh's Henry V on Saint Crispins Day (October 25) every year.
/r/MGTOW01/10/19 09:32 PM
1

I still haven't seen any evidence of this. The evidence was the existence of a large "mail order bride" industry, while a minuscule or non-existent mail order groom industry. the extreme disparity in subscriber and comment count in comparable reddits quoted above. This can not be explained by the demographic skew of reddit, since the M:F ratio is only 2:1 while the subscriber count for the sugardaddy reddit is 10x the size of the cougar one. If it were proportional, we would expect that ratio to…
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 09:30 PM
1

So the argument now is not that it's harder for older men to find younger women than it is for older women to find younger men? I thought it was "Its harder for younger men to find older women than it is for younger women to find older men?". Because those are two different arguments. Both are true, though. If a young man wishes to find a sugarmomma, he will have a much more difficult time than a young woman seeking out a sugardaddy. We already know there's far more men on reddit than women I do…
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 09:05 PM
2

Mail order brides aren't necessarily "sex trafficking". However, let's say that is the case: it shows that it's harder because the subset of men that want young women who are also willing to break the law and risk imprisonment to attain their desire is still large enough to support a lucrative business model. If there were a high demand for going the other way, there would be a market for it now. There isn't, certainly not within several orders of magnitude, so there's not. This can also be veri…
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 08:24 PM
1

No, it really isn't any harder than a woman going after a 50 year old guy That's absurd. By way of proof, consider the existence of "mail order brides". That is a large, globe-spanning industry, while "mail order husbands" is all but if not non-existent. Consequently, the demand of 50-something women for 20-something men is small, easily filled by the available supply, or some combination of the two. The demand of 50 something men for pre-wall women is large, and requires a fair amount of resour…
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 07:46 PM
1

Admittedly, I don't have a great deal of interaction with anyone who could be labeled a "church woman". However, I think you might be forgetting hypergamous nature. As a result, I would contend that your last phrase should be amended to "...and happily stay with them as long as there's the promise you won't leave them like their husband until they find something better". Sure, there are the clingy types looking for validation, oftentimes with over-the-top proclamations of love and loyalty, but t…
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 07:06 PM
6

Generally speaking, older women might cougar for a time, but they won't marry down. Sure, there are exceptions, but the general rule holds. Plus, the situation isn't exactly symmetric: if a Thot wants to snag an older man, she just pretty much has to lie back and think of England. A guy trying to pull that would still have to attain and maintain the gallant reaction. If it's a thirsty guy, no problem at first, but the effort required will only increase as time goes on.
/r/MGTOW230/09/19 07:55 PM
2

So? It's not like there aren't a ton of alternatives: gab, bitchute, dissenter, etc. Websites come and go. If anything, most of the "big" ones have turned evil precisely because they have been around too long. They've been corrupted by their accrued power, which is oftentimes if not always the case.
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 07:21 PM
19

6 months? Jesus, the old rule of thumb use to be 2 months. Which even in my Blue Pill days I thought was ridiculous. I didn't get my former wife an engagement ring at all.
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 07:06 PM
56

Why would the dude put a ring on it? I mean, seriously, even if you're not MGTOW or RP, why in the world would you buy what is being given out for free?
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 06:54 PM
1

A woman defining what makes a good man is like a fish defining what makes a good bicycle.
/r/MGTOW219/09/19 03:28 PM
1

Modern feminists don't want equality, they want equity: equal outcomes based on gender, not ability. Of course, they only protest/advocate cases where women as a group perform more poorly than men. For instance, women have outnumbered men in college for over 30 years, yet they don't advocate for parity here. They are quick to bring up the earnings gap, yet nary a word spent in protest of the fact that women participate in the labor market at a lower rate than men and, for those that do, on avera…
/r/MGTOW218/09/19 05:27 PM
1

Have a voice recorder run on your phone at all times at work. Make sure you archive these off to at least one (preferably more) storage locations on a regular basis.
/r/MGTOW18/09/19 04:10 PM
1

I'm not familiar with that case but that's why anyone that lives in a state (or country) that doesn't have one-party consent is taking a grave risk.
/r/MGTOW18/09/19 03:45 PM
2

I only half believe that this is a real question in the sense the guy isn't sure what to do. Perhaps I haven't fully embraced the extent that clown world has spread, but I find it extremely difficult to accept that any person who even begrudgingly calls himself a man would tolerate this sort of thing for an instant.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/19 03:40 PM
1

Which is why it's important to get it all recorded.
/r/MGTOW18/09/19 11:58 AM
9

Just say no.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 09:32 PM
3

If you have what you need, you are rich. The advantage to accumulating wealth is you can buy back your own future time. That is, not need to work. There's several risks involved in this approach: inflation can effectively wipe it out, as can outrageous taxation. So, it's a risk/reward calculation for each of us, which means that either answer can be arrived at correctly depending on the weighting and probabilities of the variables.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 03:59 PM
1

Which is why it's important to save evidence: emails, texts, audio recordings.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 12:12 PM
11

Oh, men have always known. "Ball and Chain" and jokes about being dragged to the altar are very old, ancient even. But men did it out of a sense of noblesse oblige, that was expected of them, and it was the very definition of "manning up". Now, men know they have no responsibility for women, and more and more men are not only seeing that, accepting that, but embracing it.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 09:02 PM
1

Well done! The real revelation is that women controlling you is all in your mind. They only have as much control and influence over you as you give them. Once that is realized, everything becomes much easier. You probably know this, but it doesn't hurt repeating: she may very well have a "come to Jesus moment" where she claims that she was wrong about you, and more importantly, about her feelings about you. She'll be contrite, probably submissive, and there will be many tears. I hope you know it…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 08:39 PM
19

Second wave feminism really was much more egalitarian than the current incarnation. The bright side for men is that women's liberation was also liberating for men: we have no duty or obligation to support them or protect them. They are, like men, expected to fend for and protect themselves.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 08:08 PM
1

I'm not without women at the current time. No, I don't use Tinder or any sort of dating site/app. I determined their asymmetry ...probably about 15 years ago or so after a very brief usage, and haven't had any desire to reassess. Judging by everything I've read here and similar, I'm not missing out. Women are like anything else: the novelty wears off and the cost/benefit analysis swings negative.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 07:48 PM
1

test
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 06:00 PM
1

No mention of the fact that for most men, women are rarely if ever economically attractive. Even if they earn the same or more than him, a married man risks her becoming pregnant and she decides she wants to be a stay-at-home mom. There's really no viable recourse for the man: he obviously can't make her get a job, and divorcing her won't get him off the financial hook. There really is no risk/reward calculation that makes marriage attractive for the man.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 05:45 PM
1

Well, no, not really. You are making the false equivalency between MGTOW and Incels. I've never experienced anything like the horror stories that many MGTOW have despite decades of being involved with women in various forms: ONS, short-term dating, marriage, LTRs, etc. However, the absolute main tenet of MGTOW, the defining characteristic as far as I'm concerned, is to never again become financially or legally entangled with a woman. This means marriage is off the table, completely and utterly. …
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 05:38 PM
2

Well, no, not really. You are making the false equivalency between MGTOW and Incels. I've never experienced anything like the horror stories that many MGTOW have despite decades of being involved with women in various forms: ONS, short-term dating, marriage, LTRs, etc. However, the absolute main tenet of MGTOW, the defining characteristic as far as I'm concerned, is to never again become financially or legally entangled with a woman. This means marriage is off the table, completely and utterly. …
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 05:37 PM
4

I think of PUA more of a technique than a guiding principle. Sure, there can be MGTOW that employ PUA tactics, but there can also be MGTOW that do something more akin to traditional dating by some definition. It's just when and if push comes to shove, they won't get married.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 03:41 PM
19

MGTOW<> Monk Mode. Monk Mode is a subset of MGTOW. So, there are MGTOW who still "date" in some sense. The primary characteristic of MGTOW imo is maintaining financial and legal separation.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 03:37 PM
16

Indifference means just that, indifference. One can not care what the alphabet people think. If they think and call you a bigot, oh well, they're entitled to their opinion just as you are entitled to not giving a fuck about their opinion. Allow me to share a story from my college days in the 80s. Protesting was just starting to be a thing again after the 60s, although most looked upon it as a quaint waste of time, done by atavistic hippie-wanna-bes. There was a group protesting something, I don'…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 03:27 PM
2

As with any other quality, they care about it when it can be of use to them. For IQ, this would be earnings potential, solving problems for them, or entertaining them. If it is employed in telling them something they don't want to hear, then it's not appealing to them at all. That's when the quality goes from being "he's sooooo smart" to "he's a know-it-all".
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 02:49 PM
66

One can also be alphabet people indifferent.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 02:38 PM
3

"Micro-detailing". That's a good term. I'm been using "midichlorianing" (as a verb) to indicate unneeded and excessive explanation.
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 08:11 PM
3

The prevalence of prequels in the last 20 years bears testament to this. Backstories that overwhelmingly give explanations of origins where none are needed and if fact detract from the original. The Star Wars prequels are pretty much the "gold standard" for this.
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 07:40 PM
8

My take is that he knows, in some sense, that it is over, but wants to be absolved of or at least mitigate the responsibility for the inevitable different pain that will happen after calling off the engagement. Why else would you ask a question with such an obvious answer to Reddit?
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 04:46 PM
5

Something that I've noticed the last ten years or so is the desire to precisely categorize people, particularly from the left. This is part of the whole marxist identity politics game, but it extends beyond what one would normally consider political. I suspect many think definitive categorizations, even and maybe particularly if on some sort of continuous scale, makes their ideas scientific. I'm more inclined to ascribe to Rutherford's definition: All science is either physics or stamp collectin…
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 03:29 PM
9

Men are hardwired to compete for women. It's their nature. Substituting maintenance of dignity and acting in their rational self-interest is a hard sell in the face of such a drive. Of course, lots of things are their nature that gradually have been domesticated out of them for the most part. Perhaps, just perhaps, this pussy worship will be added to that list, but I doubt seeing that in my lifetime, nor the lifetime of anyone currently alive.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 06:10 PM
23

This cycle will continue until men, as a group, value their dignity more than slaking their thirst. I see no other possible solution, nor do I see this solution as very likely to come to pass.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 06:00 PM
60

Unfortunately, men are as a group just too damn thirsty. That is what inspires their behavior, which in turn promotes the behavior of the female. Lather, rinse, repeat.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 04:24 PM
5

LOL. Then you're looking to get punched at an inopportune moment. Although, honestly, very few trannies really ever pass for their non-natural sex. Genes don't lie.
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 07:31 PM
7

6 x 9 = 42 in base 13
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 08:25 PM
2

The thing I want to say is that through all of this, we as men need to take responsibility and be accountable for our actions – not only our own, but the actions of all the men all around us all of the time. Nope, I'm only responsible for my own actions. I'm not a cop, nor am I moral policeman of other men's behavior. If they do me no harm, I will return the courtesy. That is an open invitation to all humans, men and women alike. I'm neither your predator nor your protector. Period.
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 02:24 PM
1

Well, the decay rate itself probably isn't a universal constant, but there is some non-zero decay rate. The half life [HL = ln(2)/DR] might be anywhere from 2 weeks to maybe five years but make no mistake, it's not infinite nor even large compared to human lifespans.
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 11:09 AM
14

Everything has a decay rate, including the chemicals that flood your brain making the "romantic ideal" appealing. The problem with legal commitment is that once this decay occurs, you as the man are left footing the bill and possibly even worse. If you think it's worth it to chase this high knowing full well that it is fleeting with dire consequences after the crash, then by all means. Personally, I think chasing the unicorn is worse than chasing the dragon; at least the dragon can be periodical…
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 10:54 AM
5

Bye.
/r/MGTOW05/09/19 08:50 PM
1

Here's some old wisdom: The second happiest day in a boat owners life is the day he buys his boat. The happiest is the day he sells it. Rent, never buy, anything that flies, floats, or fucks. Young men need to learn this. Old men need to be reminded.
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 09:36 PM
6

I suspect that many of the posts you refer to are essentially variations of "Why buy the cow when milk is so cheap and cows require an inordinate amount of upkeep". These posts serve as warnings for the siren call of "free milk if you buy the cow". Now, obviously, it's not a perfect analogy, but I think it hits the main points of the dangers and drawbacks to the formerly traditional male-female relationship spectrum.
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 08:31 PM
2

I didn't read the whole article, but I skimmed it for the inevitable assertion that it isn't their fault. Had to get near the end to find it: One of the Riveter’s co-founders, Demkiewicz, told the Daily Dot over the phone that “investors need to show up and change their investing behavior or patterns.” At the same time, she said, mentors “need to show up and offer support, resources, and training to women, queer folx, nonbinary folx, trans folx, and people of color who have a vision for consiste…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 04:15 PM
42

Once you establish some sort, any sort, of regular financial/support relationship, you open yourself up to being on the hook when things turn south. Look up Lee Marvin and palimony, as an example.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 11:07 PM
8

It's not our choice if they let themselves go. It is our choice if we buy it or keep it, though.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 01:52 PM
21

One thing that may help younger MGTOW who are still very susceptible to their hormones: view every presentation of females as marketing and advertising, whether done by some mass media or by the individual herself. If you consistently use this mindset, you'll eventually realize you are being sold a product that you really don't need.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 01:34 PM
17

I use the line "Her body, her choice, her responsibility". After all, they are "pro-choice", and unilateral choices should only have unilateral consequences.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 01:18 PM
19

"I don't talk politics at work". If they say it's not politics, it's a set of principles or whatever: "I don't talk belief systems or religion at work".
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 12:35 PM
1

Yeah, there was a tweet from some U.N. women's thing quoting that figure but I couldn't find it.
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 12:18 PM
49

Yeah, they like to point out when things are getting "worse" for them, although closer examination oftentimes means they are getting closer to the aggregate for men. Here's an example: https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/journalists-killed-press-freedom-women/ The percentage of women war correspondents getting killed more than doubled! Of course, it's only 19% of the total...
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 04:18 PM
26

This. Women are going to act like women, PUAs are going to exploit their behavior. Just don't play the game and you'll be fine.
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 02:10 PM
1

Well, nothing wrong with having a symbol. Yes, it isn't a movement, club, or political group. However, that doesn't mean it can't have a symbol or emblem. I've always suggested a white feather, as a remembrance of all the men shamed by women into joining the meat grinder of WW1. Never again.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 01:19 PM
9

Saw that on Timcast. Those poor boys.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 01:45 PM
2

I think you meant "conflate" rather than obfuscate. Seeing the dangers and opting out or at least proceeding with due caution is pretty much the opposite of having a decision involuntarily imposed. Regardless, I wish you fortune in your endeavors.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 10:23 PM
28

It's their nature. Notice that it isn't just lust on her part, but a whole other life.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 08:39 PM
4

Well, sure, but that's not the same thing as being openly MGTOW. You're playing with fire if you just do a RP stringing along imo.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 08:33 PM
13

You're deluding yourself if you think women are head-over-heels for MGTOW. At most, at most, some may see us as high-value or sporting targets but there is far easier prey. And really, that's one of the main points of this sub: make yourself a hardened target, not a conspicuous one. Clinging to the notion that you are "more desirable" to them now is pretty much playing to the same male vanity that gets most men in trouble in the first place.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 08:22 PM
5

It's worse than that: they actively helped a woman who cheated on her husband. That's what got me banned there and I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one. I mean sure, red pill is fundamentally amoral, but that's a far cry far enabling evil.
/r/MGTOW213/08/19 06:58 PM
3

IF we are to believe her account, he threatened to murder her. That's not acceptable behavior for anyone of any age, and she was right to take action. Hell, she could have gotten the cops involved and she would have been well within her rights.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 05:44 PM
4

Minimum acceptable behavior, and the consequences for those who fail to follow it.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 05:34 PM
5

IF her account is to be believed, she didn't stalk him, rather it was an adolescent internet tough guy making threats.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 05:11 PM
5

Don't exaggerate, it's only 90%: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9wsi9w/what_are_your_reasons_for_going_mgtow/e9mygmv/ Sorry for the self-referral, but I end up referencing that list so often that it's proven a valuable aggregation of links.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 05:05 PM
5

A little late for that. That's been pretty much the sales pitch for at least the last 80 years. And, despite the statistics and the plentiful personal tragedies offered, many men still think "won't happen to me". Perhaps it's hubris, thinking they're too smart, or perhaps it's bravado, thinking they're "too manly", or perhaps they're so weak, they can't stand up to the societal pressure to GTOW. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 04:55 PM
3

JFC, this again...
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 04:48 PM
2

If he was in the service, she almost certainly cheated on him, whether he knows it or not. But sure, believe in unicorns if you want, and continue bargaining.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 10:47 PM
1

You've heard this information from his own mouth?
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 10:35 PM
2

So, your sources are this woman, and another woman.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 10:30 PM
2

What is the source of your information?
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 10:26 PM
8

Specialized predators for specialized prey. /r/RedPillWomen is pretty much dedicated to the notion.
/r/MGTOW212/08/19 06:45 PM
7

Very interesting. This implies then that the stress level of men as a whole is increased compared to historical levels. This is born out to some degree by the increase in suicide rates among men in recent years. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187478/death-rate-from-suicide-in-the-us-by-gender-since-1950/
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 04:57 PM
8

She's done with you. That's how it works.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 03:41 PM
9

Of course it is males that allowed this to happen. Females have just been exploiting the combination of biological and social weaknesses of men. The only way to win is not to play, which is admittedly a difficult choice. That's why so few choose it, and fewer still actually stick to it.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 03:39 PM
20

Seriously. I'm not sure what caused this shift to thinking ginormous asses were appealing. It seems more like a caricature to me, like insanely large tits 20 or 30 years ago being held in "high" esteem.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 03:11 PM
3

I direct you to the sidebar
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/08/19 12:53 PM
1

Thirst oceans give the energy to beta-tornadoes, just like warm gulf water gives the energy to hurricanes. Coupled with the natural tendency of men to be competitive, it's the perfect storm of cringe.
/r/MGTOW10/08/19 12:07 PM
7

Any woman, in any situation.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 10:24 PM
1

B. This has all the makings of a Springeresque shitshow. Do you really want to be in the middle of that, while enabling her hypergamous nature?
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 10:00 PM
7

Yeah, unless you don't sufficiently kiss her ass. Or she goes on the rag.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 09:58 PM
11

"Beta-tornado" Well put!
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 09:04 PM
2

It is what it is. If you want to fight it, MRA would be more your speed. MGTOW isn't political or activist. We are hopelessly, even hilariously, outnumbered by the BP simps and women. So, the only way to win is not to play.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 07:37 PM
11

You're a man, you're going to be treated as a second class citizen. You're going to be picked last, if at all, if there are any victim-Olympics self-defined medalists in the running. That's just the way it is, and all the belly-aching in the world isn't going to change that. Life isn't fair. But, that is actually liberating. You don't owe anyone anything, not even what use to be called common courtesy or noblesse oblige. That means you don't give up your seat on a bus for a woman, even a pregger…
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 07:15 PM
1

That's one interpretation. The other is that he got played by his ex-flame, someone he still cared for despite knowing better and got shamed into a fight that wasn't any of his concern.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 06:58 PM
3

Good choices, particularly The Thing (1982) and Jaws. The Road and The Grey didn't do much for me, except Liam Nesson punching wolves in the latter, but you're right they are free of feminist non-sense.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 06:57 PM
3

Some classic movies: Maltese Falcon (1941). This is my go-to recommendation for a non-feminist, even proto-MGTOW, movie. Sam Spade, a detective in 1940s San Francisco (a VERY different place then), gets hired by a dame on a ruse, but he quickly figures it out. Without spoiling the ending, he refuses "to play the sap", which in modern parlance could easily be taken as "simp". An absolutely great movie, imo Bogart's best beating Casablanca (in which he does simp/betas). Fight Club (1999). This is …
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 06:47 PM
1

See you in a few years, when you've learned first hand. After all, smart men learn from their own mistakes, wise men learn from the mistakes of others.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 03:51 PM
15

Of course, which is why I emphasized to me. I certainly don't claim my tastes are right. Tastes are neither right nor wrong but how one acts on them can be. If you can afford it, and think it is worthwhile, then its your money to spend as you wish.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 03:46 PM
17

What is currently called "feminism" is actually cultural marxism. Odd are, if you post there, you will eventually get banned.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 03:43 PM
1

It was a crapshoot, very unlikely, but the universe is very VERY big. Incredibly unlikely things, such as life occurring and leading to a space-faring civilization, happened just by dint of how many times the die was cast. That's probably the solution to the Fermi paradox: getting to complex life, let alone a space-faring civilization, most likely has to pass through a number of great filters. By all current evidence, we were the first in the observable universe. As for "not caring for each othe…
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 03:40 PM
101

I'd be willing to bet she spent that amount on hair styling alone in less than a year. If she has her hair colored on any sort of regular basis, most probably less than six months.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 03:17 PM
28

Why in the world do men put up with this? Even when I was married, I never asked my wife's permission or had to accrue "brownie points" to get anything I wanted when I wanted. Now, granted, I'm rather a minimalist when it comes to stuff, so it was never a point of friction but I never even vaguely thought I had to get her approval for any purchases I did make. That being said, it seems rather absurd to me for a grown man to spend $800 on a plastic child's toy, but to each their own. https://www.…
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 03:14 PM
27

Exactly. I encourage men to laugh at the clown world we live in, but don't be upset by it. It's a comedy, not a tragedy, for you.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 01:44 PM
18

Dollars to donuts the ex moving in was actually his wife's idea. Oh, I'm sure she led him to think it was his decision, but a stay-at-home mom has all day to scheme.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 01:09 PM
13

"But I have 3 children". That's child support, not alimony, and she bloody well knows it.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 12:18 PM
2

"Women don't care about that stuff". Oh, really? Then why is marriage a 70 billion dollar a year industry? https://blog.marketresearch.com/the-wedding-industry-in-2017-and-beyond And to anyone trying to say "men get married too", try to claim that the marriage industry isn't geared towards women. Hell, there's tv shows about picking out a wedding dress, and not counted in the 72 billion dollar figure, at least two movie genres (romances and romcoms) dedicated to it.
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 12:15 PM
2

Hmmm, well, the risk reward calculation is pretty simple.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 09:37 PM
1

Yes. You know what lies on the path you're following. Your heart, for lack of a better term, is screaming at you, probably concocting pleasant scenarios. That's your biology at play. It's a trap. I'm sure male preying mantises or black widow spiders all think it won't go south for them, but it always does.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 08:57 PM
2

Maybe Gillette can do a commercial for their lady razor line, cajoling them to be better women...
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 08:23 PM
1

Yeah, no.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 08:22 PM
2

She hasn't shown herself to be a snowflake, she's just claiming the usual NAWALT status.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 06:47 PM
3

Didn't you know? Men can't have their own space, no matter how small and unassuming. Women HAVE to inject themselves, it's their nature, as they can not stand the idea that there's a group of men who don't think they're the GOAT.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 01:33 PM
4

He couldn't escape her even with the sweet release of death.
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 01:29 PM
6

Purpose, like meaning, is a human construct.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 09:37 PM
22

The flaw is he's implicitly assuming that the mechanism of life is the purpose of life. The first is how you got here, the second is what meaning you give to being here. Now, if you are content just to be another link in the chain, then the meaning you assign, the purpose is the same as the mechanism. However, that's a choice, and not the only one.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 09:36 PM
5

Just keep rejecting her non-business related advances. She'll either get the hint or not. Think of it like spam or telemarketers: yeah, it's annoying but as long as you don't click the links or answer, you'll be fine.
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 12:47 PM
1

The primary tenet of MGTOW is the bad deal marriage is for men. There is a great deal of societal pressure to "man up" (ha!) and get a girlfriend-leading-to wife. This is very pervasive. Hell, there's a whole movie genre, romcoms, pretty much dedicated to this premise. The wedding industry grosses over 70 billion a year (https://blog.marketresearch.com/the-wedding-industry-in-2017-and-beyond). To put that number in perspective, that's larger than movie box office (~12 billion https://www.thewrap…
/r/MGTOW205/08/19 01:40 PM
6

Why would you post this to a MGTOW forum? You acted like an emotional tampon during phase 1 despite the HUGE red flags. Then, you acted like a simp during phase 2. Now you're asking what the hell? Jesus. Women act the way women act. You can't change that, all you can do is not make poor choices. Your choices are entirely on you.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 09:10 PM
3

She doesn't even have shared custody of the kids, despite spending two years to get "her fair share". She claims "My husband has primary custody because he had better lawyers who were able to manipulate some minor missteps on my part into the court seeing them as a huge deal.". However, even her own mother sided with her ex: "This email along with your behavior over the last 5 years should really give you insight into why we might not want you at family events." Damn, this broad must be a real p…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/19 08:54 PM
5

They don't let go of one vine until they grab the next.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 05:49 PM
1

Things aren't quite that lockstep. There are no "standards" that are completely followed by everyone everywhere. Perhaps "typical" might be more appropriate, where a plurality engage in certain behavior, but that still leaves the majority of population not doing so.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 10:43 AM
24

There is no political solution for biology.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 09:11 PM
18

Don't worry about them. They make their choices, and you make yours.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 07:57 PM
4

And fat. And a horrible person.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/19 04:56 PM
2

Excellent summary. The college loans thing doesn't really hold a lot of water as affecting dating. Dating can be very cheap, particularly if you can even marginally cook. However, even ignoring that, less than a third of people even get a bachelors degree: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2018/women-more-likely-than-men-to-have-earned-a-bachelors-degree-by-age-31.htm By the stats you cite, men (surprise surprise) bear the lion's share of dating costs, yet have an even lower percentage of bachelors.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 04:48 PM
1

Lame.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 04:26 PM
13

SMH. Desperate pathetic men. I have more disgust for the men who enable this than I do for the women at this point.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 08:15 PM
5

So, an asterisk best. Best in a less talented league. As for better TV ratings, I have yet to see that demonstrated. I see a comparison of World Cup finals viewership, which was down in the U.S. since the men's team wasn't in it. However, I haven't been able to find regular game viewership comparison. That would be apples-to-apples.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 08:13 PM
6

You said "The women's team is the best in the world". That is demonstrably untrue. They are the best women in the world, but it has been shown that they are unable to beat teenage boys. How much do the winners of the Little League World Series make compared to MLB? It is laughable: women claim they want equality, but they want the deck stacked in their favor by having sex segregation when it suits their purpose.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 07:44 PM
11

The women perform better in their junior varsity league. They couldn't even beat 15 year old boys, I doubt they would do very well against any men's team at that level. The Little League World Champions did better in their league than say the Orioles, but there's no way in hell the former are better than the latter.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 07:36 PM
10

Yes, in what amounts to a junior league in terms of talent and ability. After all, this is the team that was beaten by 15 and under boys: https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/ How about they play each other for paychecks?
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 06:04 PM
1

Pass
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 05:43 PM
1

He pretty much nailed it until the last line. What possible incentive could there be for someone on the rise settling for someone on the decline? That's just buying trouble.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 05:29 PM
3

It was targeting the soy boys, feminazi allies and possibly tradcons, attempting to guilt them into being their definition of virtuous while showing just how "woke" Gillette is as a company. The calculation, then, is whether they will net increase their sales after one adds new customers as a result of their marketing and subtracting existing customers offended by the marketing. Based on their recent quarterly report, I'd say they net lost.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 04:07 PM
4

Look at the picture. The man is broken, and yet the leeches still are trying to suck strength from him. Gentlemen, this is your fate if you go the family route.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 02:56 PM
3

Yep. Why any man would spin that wheel is a mystery. You are just asking for trouble down the road.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 02:54 PM
10

Learn to internalize not caring what blue pill simps think. Call you incel, gay, loser, etc? Whatever. Just think of it as a parrot squawking "Fuck you" over and over: it's essentially words without underlying meaning considering the source. They are, like the parrot, just following their programming.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 11:01 PM
1

It only really helps if there's a pronounced asymettry in their respective earnings: https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c33833ebd7730076d294700-750-475.jpg If you both earn about the same, there is really no advantage and quite the disadvantage at the high end.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 10:52 PM
3

She's married already, but they are living 700 miles apart because of diverging career opportunities. Infer from that what you will.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 09:21 PM
3

Same here, for being incredulous that it took her ten years to complete a bachelors. Gee, no wonder she stacked up so much debt. I think we know what the MGTOW or WHATGMG inference would be for taking the better part if not all of her 20s to complete an undergraduate degree. And, of course, the approved advice is how she can renege on her debt. SMH. Are people ever going to learn that any purchase, including education, is a risk/reward calculation?
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 09:15 PM
2

In professional fields particularly, mentoring is fairly important. One learns the ropes and the on-the-ground things that aren't in the textbooks or lectures. It's usually (IME) not a formal thing, rather a senior taking a junior under his wing. Practical advice, warnings of pitfalls, politics, etc.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 12:21 PM
2

Hell, I made that decision over ten years ago. Not because of the threat of false allegations, but because women in their 20s and 30s are highly likely to drop out of work for at least 6 weeks at a time every few years. I had been burned picking up their slack twice already in my career, so there's no way in hell I'll ever do it a third time. Now, since the false allegation weapon is much more potent than it was previously, that's just icing on the fucking cake. I mean, yeah, sure, blame the com…
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 05:02 PM
1

Well, it's not like Marvel, or the MCU, really respected the Norse lore anyway. Might as well go full-retard if for comedic effect alone.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 05:24 PM
1

Exactly, he did create a new society. However, MGTOW certainly doesn't mean that, rather recognizing the problems with the current society and strategies/techniques for avoiding its dangers.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 07:14 PM
1

Welll, Galt removed himself from society entirely, even physically. MGTOW doesn't necessarily mean that. In fact, I'd say that's probably more the exception than the rule. It's more of an a la carte thing for MGTOW, the most notable (and I'd say defining) thing being the bad deal marriage is for men and refusing to engage in it.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 06:24 PM
1

MGTOW doesn't necessarily mean "Going Galt". It's more a "Going Galt" lite, in the sense one removes oneself from one aspect of society (i.e. marriage at least, all the way to monk mode at the other end of the spectrum). Note that's just one aspect, and doesn't require building a shack in the woods.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 06:12 PM
20

"play better than the men". Prove it. How about the WNBA champion play the NBA team with the worst record in the league for paychecks.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 04:04 PM
3

"All i've got is my lizard". Yeahhhhh, nothing says "warm" and "affectionate" like someone who thinks a reptile is a good pet....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/07/19 09:37 PM
23

I'm not responsible for your needs.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 09:23 PM
26

Pass
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 12:43 PM
1

Nah, and your story is why it isn't. You had a good year but covered your bases, so there's no really bad fallout. Sounds like a win to me.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 08:49 PM
6

There's a sidebar. Use it.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 08:46 PM
1

Yeah, so do bathrooms at keggers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/07/19 06:46 PM
24

Exactly. Why assume the responsibility? I maintain that is part of the reason for the falling labor force participation rate for men. If a man doesn't assume some responsibility such as a wife and/or kids, there is less need to work. Might as well opt out.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 07:03 PM
1

I know, there have been tons of these sort of posts in the various manosphere sites. It still makes my jaw drop and I shake my head that this actually works for them. Sure, lots of thirsty dudes, willing to sacrifice their freedom and self-respect to satiate their biological impulses, but god damn, at this price?
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 06:47 PM
107

The one on the lower right, and the outrage to it, always cracks me up. Let me get this straight: the recruit is being trained to endure hardships, come under enemy fire with the express intention of being fatal in a battlefield that is (most likely) extremely chaotic and insanely loud, but harsh words from a trainer is just "too much"? Ummmm, yeah, right.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 12:59 PM
4

Why would I be interested in your answer to any question?
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 10:50 PM
4

Of course you shouldn't have to do that, but it is the current reality.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 03:43 PM
23

That's why one should strive to be as income-free as possible. Save as much as you can, invest in tax-free municipal bonds or similar instruments, carefully manage your capital gains so as to minimize the tax bite and, of course, try not to bring home a salary. I did a very scaled-down version of this ~2005 through 2017, minimizing income and not investing. I called it "Going Galt lite". Given the labor participation rates of men, it seems some number of men are doing similar: https://www.bls.go…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:57 AM
4

It's possible they were ordered to do so, for the good of the unit. Not too different than the larger societal situation, really, where one can receive a court order to pay for children she decided to have. And god forbid you're married, then you're responsible for her debts and "lifestyle" as well.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:45 AM
1

"Meaning" is a human construct: each of us defines our own "meaning of life". The vast majority are prone to take cookie-cutter answers packaged and provided by those with an agenda. In this context, marriage, that could either be religious or just general gynocentrism. The emptiness you're feeling is the Disney bullshit being evacuated from you but having not been replaced with something of your own making. I can't give you "the answer", because there isn't one answer. What that answer is for y…
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 09:23 PM
14

LOL. Well, ok, I guess that counts as a reason or, rather, a specialized fetish of some sort.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 09:17 PM
73

We are in a post-marriage age. There is no reason, none, for a man to get married and quite a few that make it a very poor decision.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 07:27 PM
2

It's simple: they can't even beat HS boys teams. It's a Dr. Johnson's dog situation.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 12:26 PM
47

I first became aware that Google had some sort of agenda about six years ago, while researching firearms. The returns on queries was at best subpar, and at worse worse-than-useless. Oddly enough, I did not find this deficiency in Bing or, at the very least, no where near as pronounced. The demonstrable way they manipulate autocomplete has been documented now for years. Thanks to Project Veritas, we also have proof of what many have suspected for a long time concerning search returns being manipu…
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 06:36 PM
2

Jesus, not even willing to do the most basic of research, of due diligence, before asking an insanely idiotic question. There's a whole sidebar to explore that answers these questions and many many more.
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 06:21 PM
1

If women are as strong as men, why is it so rare for women to qualify for men's sports teams? Why is there currently not one female in the NFL, MBL, NFL, or NBA? It's damn sure not purposeful exclusion, particularly baseball which has a history of "stunt players", such as one-armed players and midgets. As you point out, this is dangerous propaganda that is giving women a false sense of physical power.
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 12:26 PM
4

"Real Men" = Those who will provide (financially, emotionally, parentally, etc) with no benefit to themselves. By that definition, I guess I'm not a "Real Man" in her view. Oh well, I'll try to hold back the tears. /s
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/06/19 03:16 PM
1

I lost what little respect I had for that sub when they were helping a woman who had cucked her husband. They can claim red pill all they want, but they still have fundamental female nature and act accordingly. That sub is just a chameleon training academy for specialized prey.
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 06:42 PM
1

I'm similar in view with regard to "vacations", and being trapped on a floating tincan sounds like a nightmare no matter what the amnesties offered.
/r/MGTOW219/06/19 07:22 PM
2

Hmmm, well, apparently you have a higher tolerance for casual theft by guests than most. If you were at a friend's house, would you start digging through their change bucket for quarters without asking them? If no, why do you think it's unreasonable to expect others to act with basic decorum as you do? If yes, then I guess we know what kind of person you are.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 07:18 PM
6

While I understand the sentiment, if there is any place that one can confront entitled behavior it is in one's own home while being casually robbed. Sure, it's "just change" but the mindset of entitlement to start taking it without even asking is just breath-taking.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 07:10 PM
7

Jesus, the trolls aren't even very good at their self-appointed task, are they? The false equivalency is so obvious, it's cringe-worthy.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 06:25 PM
13

She's made bad choices, and it's sad that the obvious repercussions are adversely affecting her. Sadder still is that there's a white knight wannabe somewhere who will sign up for this trainwreck.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/19 04:54 PM
3

For one, the women haven't demonstrated a consistent ability to generate revenue. The men's team for the period has brought in roughly 18 million +/-6 for the last ten years. The women 12 million +/- 12. They had a spike a few years ago, but that has all the earmarks of tapering off. Secondly, broadcast sales almost certainly favor the men even though it's sold as a "package deal". Force them to offer it a la carte and then we'll know relative worth. Thirdly, there is a considerable market for p…
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 04:22 PM
7

Men have preferences, as well as criteria. As shocking as it may be to single moms, many if not most men do not want to raise or even live with another man's child. Biologically, they get no benefit from it, expending time, effort, resources and opportunity costs without actually passing on their genes. As much as the idea is being pushed by the MSM, many men don't find the idea of being cucked appealing. That's in addition to the oftentimes degradation in physical attractiveness and utility ass…
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 03:18 PM
3

Very good point, it's a tendency to proselytize and apply it to everything. Sorta like new med students self-diagnose themselves with all manner of ailments, psychology students with mental problems, and physicists imagine seeing wave functions collapsing in everyday life. Learning to step back from a knowledge/belief system takes experience with it.
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 08:40 PM
12

Well said! There is a tendency, on both sides of MGTOW, to seek validation by "proving" one is right. I'm sure MGTOWers have all been subjected to the almost frantic insistence that some cuck is happier, and that having children is wonderful. They are seeking reassurance by insisting they haven't made a horrible mistake. Likewise, particularly among the newer or younger MGTOW, there is a tendency to want to be confrontational about their belief system. This is the same sort of validation-seeking…
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 04:53 PM
2

People are much less tolerant than they once were. I've seen that in my lifetime, and it certainly has accelerated the last ten years or so. Expressing views at work outside some spread of the mean is dangerous for continued employment at the very least. The way I view it, I'm there to work, not express opinions or personal philosophy outside my area of expertise. So, keeping things close to the vest is easy with that attitude. You're not there (presumably) to argue lifestyle or politics, you're…
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 04:44 PM
2

I wouldn't even call anything more "luxury" rather clutter, though I would add an equipped kitchen to your list.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/19 10:43 PM
24

The horn always falls off, leaving a nag.
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 07:14 PM
2

Living well is the best revenge. Good on you for not accepting renewed contact, even to gloat. For one, it would only dredge up old feelings/emotions that you've moved past. You don't need that, nobody needs that. Secondly, if you did unload on her, it would only give her a sense that she's "paid" for her transgressions since she's been punished. Perversely enough, if you had ripped into her, there would be tears but it would be cathartic for her. You don't need to work yourself up in order to b…
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 01:57 PM
3

The anti-romcom, or a "bro mo" where mo is short for movie. I would support this new exciting genre.
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 05:51 PM
2

Yeahhhh...Any man that could afford her demands could get one half her age.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/19 05:43 PM
9

I didn't even know there was an attempt at women's professional hockey. Who watched that? Based on the bankruptcy, not too many despite the low pay. If they were any good, they could try out for the NHL.
/r/MGTOW02/05/19 05:40 PM
1

MGTOW isn't a movement, or a collective. We don't really do group action. Each man participates in society and the economy as much as he's willing. Based on declining labor participation rates among men, that's less (on average) than in the past. https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm So, in that sense, there is a certain amount of "going on strike", it's just not a one-off event for a statement. Rather, it's a systemic reaction to a systemic situation.
/r/MGTOW202/05/19 09:36 AM
0

Going Our Own Way does not necessarily mean that we stop all interactions with women, in particular sex. In that sense, even a MGTOW "needs" a woman if they wish to engage in heterosexual sex. Not all MGTOW are in monk mode, after all. I would hazard that most probably aren't. The difference is that a MGTOW knows he is playing with fire, and takes appropriate precautions both for physical and emotional security. The first involves mostly documentation (saved texts/emails and I would recommend au…
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 09:16 PM
5

Single moms are easy pickings: they are essentially trapped at home the vast majority of time to care for their pity card. Single moms were among the first women to really take to the internet in the late 90s and the naughts for this reason. Look at some of the early viral content: dancing baby, cute kitten pics/vids, etc. and I would contend their demographic were among the first hardcore adopters of facebook. Since they are trapped at home so much, they are hungry for personal attention. While…
/r/MGTOW01/05/19 02:49 PM
2

Yeah, not smart of the guy in current year. However, it does underscore the wisdom of refusing to mentor women in a professional capacity. I am so glad I made that decision, and not to work with breeding age females, ten years ago.
/r/MGTOW26/04/19 09:21 PM
1

Yeah, to paraphrase Jess Phillips, I'll start caring when women achieve parity with men.
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 09:06 PM
5

8% down is pretty significant, particularly in an economy that is booming.
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 09:00 PM
3

Refusing to support evil is its own reward, whether it has an effect on the wider world or not. You can't control that, you can only control what you do.
/r/MGTOW24/04/19 08:58 PM
1

I don't think she influenced the way they think she influenced. Now, many more normies think twice about "believing women". My personal criteria is either a confession by the accused, denial of sex by the accused but physical evidence contradicts, or video. Anything else, it's "he said, she said" as far as I'm concerned. After whats-her-face, I suspect many more men have similar criteria even though they may not openly admit it.
/r/MGTOW18/04/19 02:00 PM
5

That's almost certainly a scam.
/r/MGTOW17/04/19 05:59 PM
49

It heartens me that so many young men are seeing the light at such an early age.
/r/MGTOW17/04/19 05:58 PM
3

It baffles me that this works. It's sad how many beta cucks there are who apparently have no self-respect whatsoever. Oh, well, better them than me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 05:54 PM
7

I don't really see this as new: proper ghosting means blocking on all avenues of communication. It is amazing, though, that articles of these types always have women being ghosted. I guess men never are. /s
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 02:56 PM
2

Construction isn't the only masculine endeavor. All the things you mention can likewise be masculine. YouTube? That's entrepreneurial which is decidedly masculine. Likewise for "selling on amazon". You're trying to make the false claim that it's only masculine to work for someone else. That's simply not true and it can be argued that it's the exact opposite.
/r/MGTOW15/04/19 05:10 PM
1

From a legal standpoint, it would be very difficult to even form a community that purposefully excluded the so-called "protected classes" such as sex (essentially only applied when women are excluded) or race (essentially only applied against whites). If buying/selling homes is involved, there's issue with the Fair Housing Act. But let's say someone could come up with a plan that was legally bullet-proof. Maybe something like an eccentric billionaire buys a bunch of land and then selectively giv…
/r/MGTOW212/04/19 05:53 PM
2

You are wise beyond your years. Good fortune to you, young man.
/r/MGTOW12/04/19 12:22 PM
2

She didn't necessarily have to "do" anything, though somehow I doubt that's the case. Women should be viewed as disposable, just as they view men. He could have just been done with her. He doesn't need to justify anything.
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 09:54 PM
29

You've learned some valuable lessons at a very young age. Just be careful: the first woman that acts decently towards you may be viewed as a unicorn.
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 09:44 PM
2

Obvious troll is obvious. I suggest the mods consider deleting this. The nature and politics of reddit makes this obvious false flag/troll post "evidence" that this subreddit is "toxic" which, apparently, is justification for quarantine or ban. I also suggest that members of this sub consider getting the dissenter.com app: comment anywhere on anything without censorship or moderation.
/r/MGTOW11/04/19 03:43 PM
3

LOL. Sure, that's an option as well. All of these choices are vastly superior to actually buying the damn thing.
/r/MGTOW05/04/19 08:42 PM
16

One can certainly spread the word without using the term "MGTOW", which Big Media is doing everything to taint. Hell, the fundamental tenet of MGTOW, the bad deal marriage is for men, is old wisdom. Just the phrase "why buy the cow when milk is so cheap?" pretty much encapsulates it. You can still drink milk without signing up for the headache of owning and maintaining a big smelly quadruped. Or you can go dairy free if you're so inclined.
/r/MGTOW05/04/19 08:23 PM
1

Dissenter. It's my plan now; don't have to worry about anything, say what you want on any article anywhere on the net. Here, I posted on dissenter for this specific sub: https://dissenter.com/discussion/begin?url=https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/b891qu/what_is_mgtows_backup_plan_for_when_it_eventually/ Easy enough.
/r/MGTOW01/04/19 09:51 PM
1

Ultimately, men enable women's behavior. Present company excluded, of course.
/r/MGTOW25/03/19 09:52 PM
1

They are essentially children: they want to be able to do whatever they want without repercussions. Instead, the world should change in such a way that they can be as irresponsible as they like with no bad consequences. One can see this is in the existence of paternity suits, the bias in Family Court, the earnings gap, etc.
/r/MGTOW214/03/19 03:53 PM
5

I'm not sure when women started thinking they could strike men without consequences.
/r/MGTOW13/03/19 11:40 AM
1

Had it tanked, it would have been a surprising and encouraging sign that more men are starting to wake up. It didn't, so it isn't. There's still a great number of simps and cucks. Not all that newsworthy, really, and not new information for anyone that frequents this board. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW11/03/19 09:18 PM
2

Cucks are going to cuck, and there are a great many of them. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW11/03/19 03:29 PM
8

Nothing wrong with calling in with a "mental health day", though you never tell your boss that. IWD is such a day for a man sick of the non-stop feminist propaganda and self-congratulatory circle jerk. You're doing them a favor, actually, an opportunity to show them what strong independent women they are and how well they can deal with adversity.
/r/MGTOW08/03/19 04:28 PM
2

There's over 2000 Dissenter comments on the Rotten Tomatoes Captain Marvel page.
/r/MGTOW05/03/19 07:23 PM
2

Oh, there have been several perhaps even "many" articles screeching about it. It gets labeled as a "far right" tool which, I suppose compared to the politics of most of the MSM and Social Media it is since it's to the right of Stalin.
/r/MGTOW05/03/19 07:19 PM
2

It is absolutely fantastic, and works extremely well for such new software. There was a similar in idea thing in the late 90s where one could put "sticky notes" on websites, but it never caught on because there was little censorship at the time.
/r/MGTOW05/03/19 07:17 PM
1

None of which changes the fact that the woman chooses whether to have the child or not. That makes it solely her responsibility. Now, in the current environment, the choices you offer are the pragmatic ones necessary to avoid getting baby trapped. However, that's only because current mores don't hold women responsible for their actions or choices. Hence, the nearest man is held accountable.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 09:02 PM
1

Oh, no, since it is the woman's unilateral choice whether to have the child or not, it is her sole responsibility to provide for the bastard child.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 07:16 PM
6

You want to get to the point that you don't need anyone else financially, emotionally, or for entertainment. That takes quite a bit of de-conditioning, but it is achievable.
/r/MGTOW01/03/19 01:45 PM
9

LOL. Then all work is a form of rape. Few actively want to work, just want the paycheck. Sex for hire is no different.
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 03:59 PM
9

Who in their right mind would sign up for this trainwreck of a life without a court order?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 03:54 PM
2

You may think you're a woman, but you look like a dude in drag. Sorry, that's just the way it is.
/r/MGTOW24/02/19 08:20 PM
4

Yeah, unfortunately no LE agency really keeps track of false accusations. Initial complaints are just quietly dropped once the woman has extracted the damage she wanted. It's only in the rare instances that the following occur does one get an "official" false accusation: Woman pursues false allegation to fullest extent AND Man is able to prove that the allegation is false or the woman admits it is false. These conditions are very seldom met. That of course does not mean that the incident of fals…
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 03:12 PM
395

The intersection of straight men and men who find men attractive is null set.
/r/MGTOW23/02/19 02:49 PM
7

It's a chick flick. Don't see it. Problem solved. Personally, I'm pretty sick of the whole superhero genre. I was never all that much into it, honestly, but the number of movies and their goofiness has just gone off the rails.
/r/MGTOW22/02/19 07:29 PM
1

Hmmm, well, just admit to the most mundane and vanilla of things then. Talk about in moderation, as an example.
/r/MGTOW220/02/19 06:06 PM
1

I have a slightly different take on this: all men are dangerous. We're the apex predator on the planet. Our ancestors were able to wipe out species 10x our physical size using rocks and sticks. We are even better able to do this today if we so choose. What all men aren't is a threat.
/r/MGTOW20/02/19 05:37 PM
1

Be civil, but not involved in their personal lives at all, nor allow them to get involved in yours. Don't advertise what you're up to, regarding even mundane things. Keep things vague when answering questions like "What did you do this weekend?" or similar. The more details, the more potential for headaches. If they don't know what you like to do, they can't pretend to like it as well.
/r/MGTOW220/02/19 05:15 PM
4

40% of children are born to single mothers, with some demographics almost doubling that: https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/births-to-unmarried-women Now, it gets slightly tricky because statistics overlap: https://www.verywellfamily.com/single-parent-census-data-2997668 44.2% are currently divorced or separated 36.8% have never been married 18% are married; in most cases, these numbers represent women who have remarried 1.1% were widowed So, using the 70% of divorces are initiated by women:…
/r/MGTOW15/02/19 04:40 PM
2

I am at the point now where I feel I have learned enough, yet cant stop coming back here to read new stories, etc. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. Think of this sub as the equivalent of a vaccine or possibly universal precautions when working in an environment rife with infectious agents. Society as a whole with the constant attempts at blue-pilling is this environment, and the red pills dropped consistently here help inoculate you or, at the very least, remind you to wash that shit o…
/r/MGTOW14/02/19 10:05 PM
0

As much as I admire his dedication to justifiable revenge, I would be shocked if he wins the case.
/r/MGTOW13/02/19 03:48 PM
1

Yes, as if her very nature, her core self, is some force of nature that she can't control. She's just as much of a victim in her mind, probably even more. SMH.
/r/MGTOW12/02/19 08:05 PM
2

Good man. If you need to have a bitchfest, feel free to do it here. That's something that detractors of MGTOW conveniently ignore when they observe that a fair number of conversation here, though certainly not all, is about women. Well, duh, many men have been injured in their relationships, and a fair number of them need to vent. It's all part of the five stages of grief that accompanies seeing the truth of the red pill.
/r/MGTOW12/02/19 08:03 PM
41

Block her number. Ghost completely. You're going to want to rage at her. Don't. It won't do any good, it will only give her attention, and oddly enough it will make her feel better since she "paid" for whatever transgressions she did.
/r/MGTOW11/02/19 09:40 PM
2

LOL. The Dow was so low when Obama took office because traders panicked and over-reacted. The day Of the 2016 election, the Dow was at 18k, barely 4k above where it was in 2007, and it started rising as soon as DJT was elected despite the MSM trying to instill another panic the night of the election. Dire forecasts about Dow futures down knocking on a thousand, yet it went up by over 500 the next day. It peaked 14 months later at just shy of 27k. That's 50% growth in 14 months, which is astoundi…
/r/MGTOW09/02/19 02:52 PM
1

That's a very good point.
/r/MGTOW09/02/19 02:39 PM
2

While I didn't stop working since it wasn't an option, I did my best to keep my income from rising during the eight years of Obama.
/r/MGTOW09/02/19 02:38 PM
2

I would think, but I'm not sure how strong the imperative is to increase stock value. I know they do have an obligation but, conversely, they also have freedom of speech.
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 10:45 PM
3

Fortunately, at least six years until that possibility: she's 29, son not eligible until 2024. For such a contingency, I'd just do what I did during Obama's administration: resist by limiting income as much as possible, thereby limiting federal taxes. I'm reasonably sure by 2024 I could get that down to virtually zero. I'm half-convinced that I was not alone in doing that: the recovery from the 2008 recession was incredibly tepid and slow, not really exploding until the day after DJT got elected…
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 10:41 PM
4

LOL. Sure, but some choices are just prima facie wrong, like putting peanut butter on pizza.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/19 10:35 PM
2

Hmmm, would the stock holders have a case?
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 10:33 PM
11

One would think that would happen at a certain point. EA dropped what, 18%, on below already low Q4 expectations? That has to be largely due to BFV underperforming, which has to be largely due to fan backlash. I mean, EA actually said at some point: if you don't like the direction of the game, don't buy it. Evidently, some at least listened, and the market reacted. The next shareholder meeting could be quite interesting...
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 09:20 PM
33

What I find incredibly amusing is the game that let's you punch a feminist, Red Dead Redemption 2, is killing BFV. https://www.mcvuk.com/business/monthly-charts-red-dead-redemption-2-takes-second-no-1-pok%C3%A9mon-beats-fallout-76-and-battlefield-v I wonder if EA will take this lesson to heart, that in a FPS, people aren't buying it for the ability to virtue signal and be some version of some SJWs idea of a "good person"?
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 08:46 PM
27

It still mystifies me, the strategy: piss off your core audience in the hopes of attracting (maybe) new fans/players. Unless the latter outnumbers the former, it's a net lose situation. With the amount of competition in the space, and hard-core fans willing to walk away in sufficient numbers to actually noticeably affect sales numbers, I don't think companies can count on buys from their core audience no matter what anymore. There's a similar pattern in Star Wars franchise: each new movie is gro…
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 08:41 PM
9

It floors me that any man finds that in the least bit attractive. Sure, can go bareback without worrying about being baby-trapped, though STDs are no doubt on the table. But even given that, preggos are just ugly bloated beasts. How hard up does one have to be to think that is appealing if only because easily attainable?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/02/19 04:27 PM
37

Well, then, it sounds like you've found what you're looking for with the 38 y.o. ME men. Enjoy!
/r/MGTOW08/02/19 02:03 PM
2

No idea.
/r/MGTOW207/02/19 09:58 PM
9

Good job!
/r/MGTOW207/02/19 08:16 PM
4

Time, money, attention.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 12:32 AM
3

I’m looking forward to the bubble popping. Or, you could not invest at all....
/r/MGTOW03/02/19 11:03 PM
1

They recognized inalienable rights, rights that are as inherent to a person as any other attribute. They recognized that governments do not grant these rights, rather good ones acknowledge them and will not infringe upon them. They, despite misgivings that this would limit the scope of individual rights by delineating them, then came up with a list of ten specific rights. The USC can be viewed as a geometric derivation, with the preamble giving the basic postulates, and the BoR being derived the…
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 07:57 PM
4

The principles were admirable, and correct. The practice has been less than stellar, and getting worse with every passing year.
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 07:47 PM
12

It's simple: women and children aren't held accountable for their actions. She'll be getting checks for the next 18+ years, maybe some "make work job training" with free daycare as a break from the kids every once in a while, and section 8 housing. And then she'll ask "where have all the good men gone?" to which I'll answer "Either they've given up due to the present social environment, or they're still looking for a good woman. In neither case do you get a good man."
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 01:34 PM
6

He knows what is going on, what games are being played on him, but he's trying to convince himself it is him not them. I guess that's the only way to try to get back into the pod....
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 01:15 PM
10

Had a prof in grad school tell this, in these exact words, to a class of first years: "Nobody gives a damn about you. Even your parents can't help you." While he was (probably) talking more about academic success, the general rule is applicable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/19 10:20 PM
10

That's right. Chivalry is dead, along with all the burdens of imperative and benefits that went along with it. You might get a 911 call on your behalf, maybe, once I've put enough distance to assure that I won't be dragged into whatever domestic dispute you might have going on. Gentlemen, unless you're a cop, it is NOT your job to intervene. You very well may get injured, killed, or charged with assault if you do.
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 08:15 PM
1

Perhaps the reason is similar to why there are no women linebackers in the NFL....
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 05:15 PM
2

LOL. No, not in a professional setting. It's a senior taking a junior under his wing, reconciling the theory and the nitty-gritty practice, helping to give professional guidance, and have them develop their own professional judgement. Everything is important, but some things are more important than others, and sometimes one has to make hard choices based on undefined/loosely defined criteria.
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 10:36 PM
3

I was a very early adopter of that, but for (then) different reasons. I ultimately turned down a job over 9 years ago with a considerable pay bump (~25%) and one of the reasons was I would have been mentoring two breeding-age females. Companies are always quick to boast about how family-friendly they are, but it's the single men particularly who get screwed during FMLA and reduced workloads upon their return. It happened to me twice in my career up until that point, no way I wanted a hat trick. …
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 10:16 PM
1

There's an aspect to MGTOW that is like the old Gentlemen's Clubs (not strip clubs). Think of Elks, or Moose, or similar. In modern parlance, its only defining characteristic is that it is a male space, where men talk about whatever interests them. If that's making a great meal, then so be it.
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 03:51 PM
4

Classy ladies.
/r/MGTOW28/01/19 03:32 AM
2

There's other benefits as well: You have control over the ingredients and cooking conditions. Can essentially eliminate the possibility of food poisoning or other food-born illness. Every meal out, delivered, or frozen is basically a crap shoot. You can, usually but with some exemptions, make it better than most restaurants. You can certainly customize it to your tastes more. I would say pizza is probably an exception to this, as the effort of preparing the dough, sauce, and ingredients is very …
/r/MGTOW27/01/19 02:32 PM
2

Well, I'm not really sure PUA is a victory: it still puts pussy on a pedestal, making its pursuit the defining characteristic of a man. In that sense, a PUA is really the "successful" version of a BP simp.
/r/MGTOW26/01/19 02:40 PM
2

I just smirk at them. Don't nod, or shake your head, just smirk.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 11:42 PM
2

Yeah, it's not enough they get government checks, government subsidies, and tax breaks for their hobby, for fulfilling their biological urges, the rest of us should be inconvenienced by them and defer to them in daily life as well. Pffft.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 11:41 PM
26

It's a no win scenario: solve their problems, and you're an easy mark and simp. Don't solve their problems, and you're a failure. Like Global Thermonuclear War, the only way to win is not to play.
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 11:16 PM
5

I tend to think that it's what is missing in their life now, that they want a man to solve.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 07:02 PM
16

Yeah, I always wondered about that as any sort of useful description. It would be like saying "I enjoy oxygen and 1 atmosphere of air pressure".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 06:05 PM
5

The name doesn't matter, just the idea. Many men come to the conclusions of MGTOW, certainly regarding how bad marriage is for men. Even that knowledge isn't new, but more and more men these last 15 years or so are not just doing it because "you're suppose to do it". Bag that noise.
/r/MGTOW23/01/19 01:08 AM
2

JFC. LOL. Ok, dude, we'll just have to agree to disagree about those points.
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 05:49 PM
4

I disagree. There's nothing wrong with actually proving claimed improvements. Even IF there were a hint of bragging, or seeking validation as you wish to call it, there's nothing wrong with that either. Nothing wrong at all in being proud of accomplishments.
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 05:07 PM
8

Jesus, dude, he's going his own way, improving himself, and giving proof that he's improving himself. How can you find a problem with any of those?
/r/MGTOW22/01/19 04:43 PM
3

The absolute gall of the brazen sense of of entitlement and ownership. You didn't "lose" men to anything, they were never yours. As long as they aren't hurting anyone else, they can spend their time any way they see fit. If that doesn't serve or service you, oh well too bad so sad.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 04:35 PM
3

Excellent analogy. Well done, sir, well done.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 01:35 PM
12

True for us all. One can mourn lost opportunities of the past, but it really is pointless to fixate on them. It doesn't fix any problems you have now, and it won't help you moving forward. Learn from the past, don't live there.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 01:00 PM
1

They're pointless, so whether that sub thrives or dies matters as much as a cat videos sub. I got banned from there a long time ago, concerning forms of government consistent with feminism. As you'd expect, only forms giving subsidies to women was the answer, but they REALLY didn't like that being pointed out.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 12:45 PM
8

Those two both look like a world of thotty trouble. At a gun range, but with low-cut shirts and bare midriffs? Either they're not shooting, or don't mind the odd hot casing hitting their exposed flesh.
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 06:22 PM
12

to intervene as bystanders when witnessing harmful behaviours. Nope, not going to happen. I'm not going to initiate violence against anyone, and will resort to violence only in self-defense. "Intervening as bystanders" does not qualify. So, here's the deal: I'm not going to attack you, but I'm not going to defend you either. You're on your own. Anyone who says otherwise can pound sand. If I wanted to be a cop, I would have been a cop. That includes whatever tone policing you think men should vol…
/r/MGTOW20/01/19 12:16 AM
1

...and you cry alone into your wine 350 nights of the year wishing you had children and that anyone could tolerate your presence for more than a few days hours, the majority of which you're facedown. Dream big. Fixed that for you.
/r/MGTOW19/01/19 05:06 PM
1

Even discounting that, the "problem" is that many women (not all, but many) find themselves on the wrong side of 30 with a uterus screaming at them and lamenting "Where have all the good men gone?"
/r/MGTOW19/01/19 05:01 PM
9

That particular lightning strike has occurred maybe once or twice in more than a half century on this planet and the reality is, it's never going to happen again. And it didn't work out, why? She doesn't say explicitly but, given other instances of such musings, it's easy to infer. The short answer is even though the "lightning strike" was everything she wished she had now, she still wanted to hold out for more then. She thought she could do better, that there would always be another higher bran…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/19 03:01 PM
2

Looks like a third of the shills for feminism are men. Bottom feeders, looking to get pussy points. It's their sexual strategy and it may just work in just enough instances that it's seen as a viable one.
/r/MGTOW19/01/19 02:08 PM
4

How could the human race die out, and then start over? This is the reductio ad absurdum of the Kant Categorical Imperative. Not everyone is going to choose to have children, no more than everyone is going to choose not to have children. It's women who have a biological clock, who have a desire, some even a yearning or ache, to have babies. That's not our problem, at all, and we as men need to be incenitivized by them to help them do that. We just want to have sex.
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 11:55 PM
2

I think dogs have the right idea: wander off alone. If people want to fuss over my corpse, I don't care, but I'd just as well die in peace.
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 10:28 PM
8

Men, if you're not MGTOW, at least don't settle.
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 10:25 PM
1

It's difficult to accept that you've been played for a sucker your entire life. It's easier, more comforting, and more ego-preserving to deny it. That's a source of a lot of the initial red pill rage: extreme, existential shame that you fell for it.
/r/MGTOW218/01/19 10:03 PM
42

And the nice guys are done settling for the fuckboy leftovers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/19 04:30 PM
44

Everyone dies alone. You might have spectators, but it's still you alone as the life drains away.
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 08:52 PM
9

It's simple. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment, women are the gatekeepers of sex. There's a glut of sex on the market, which would include the removal of the stigma of porn and self-gratification. So, there's no real reason for men to commit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/19 06:49 PM
2

The same as any other shit test. There's a guide on TRP: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/9kfl5t/the_ultimate_guide_to_passing_shit_tests_this/ Some of the literal verbatim responses might not work, but the strategies are pretty much the same.
/r/MGTOW217/01/19 06:33 PM
6

That ad is odd. Usually, ads praise their target audience, with the implication that they deserve the best and offer their product as fulfilling that. For most audiences, it's for all they do. Instead, this ad says men aren't doing enough and should do more. Yeah, that makes me want to embrace their product, imposed responsibility for nothing to do with the actual item for sale
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 05:23 PM
1

Yes, I didn't state it explicitly, but that was meant to be sarcastic. That's how feminists would describe her, even though she's on the dole and looking for a meal ticket.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/01/19 12:15 PM
2

We choose our culture. What books we read, what entertainment we watch, our political beliefs, and art we appreciate. Time periods are always generalized with lines like "People thought this, believed this, or liked that". These are just the averages, perhaps what a given epoch is famous for and may or may not represent the majority. Basically, it's temporal stereotyping. Now, the current culture is exhorting men to embrace simping, to be ever on call to serve women and children. The Gillette ad…
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 12:13 PM
4

They are operating under a misconception if they think the careers they listed (physician, lawyer, Non-profit worker) are seen as some sort perk by men. Women may still excitedly tell their girlfriends "I'm dating a doctor!", but the only occupations that might get a comparable level of enthusiastic bragging from men would be model or gymnast.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/19 04:25 PM
1

Yeah, I agree, though there is a table floating around giving a married MGTOW as some level. They've taken precautions (pre-nup, secret assets, etc), but I would classify it as Red Pill on hard mode rather than MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW16/01/19 04:12 PM
49

Her situation doesn't sadden me: she's a strong, independent woman who made her choices. What saddens me is that there are simps out there who will throw away their lives enabling her choices.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/19 04:09 PM
5

The only rule, really, is don't get married and there are some who dispute that. After that, well, different men have varying levels of risk tolerance.
/r/MGTOW16/01/19 03:06 AM
7

It does raise the question: why would any man want her respect?
/r/MGTOW16/01/19 03:03 AM
6

I'm sure she does. I respect a man who can walk away.
/r/MGTOW16/01/19 03:02 AM
4

And I would wager, not a one of them under 30.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/01/19 06:07 PM
2

Call it "Lady of the Flies"
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 02:30 AM
1

Well, yeah, that's true. But, for those that don't have that evaluation, it's a man's market. When was the last time you saw an article by a man bemoaning the lack of suitable marriage material? Now, compare that to the number of "Where have all the good men gone" articles, and its evident there's an imbalance in the marriage market.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 02:28 AM
1

It's Amazon's "home assistant". I don't know what it plays as its signature song. I would never have a home assistant unless it was open source software on hardware I built myself.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 02:26 AM
1

Well, as long as you don't use something like Alexa, you should be fine. It's just a web page, after all, at least that's the only way I use streaming services: no home assistant, no apps with waaaay too much access to the system.
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 01:21 AM
17

Yeah, white men "fucked up" the last millennia. Went from barely eking out survival farming to space travel. Went from a geocentric model of the universe to Hawking radiation from Black holes. Went from fireplaces to fission power. Went from hand-written scrolls to the internet. Name a people who did better in any millennia.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 11:02 PM
6

I don't understand why men don't start demanding dowries.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 10:25 PM
1

Meh, he made his choices and, to me at least, his service still offers good convenient value. Of the FAANG group, Amazon is the least objectionable.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 08:48 PM
9

Who still uses RedBox? I haven't used them for...had to look it up, nearly four years. With streaming and OnDemand services like Amazon, why would you use them?
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 08:06 PM
4

True, but one may be able to infer. DiCaprio, Reeves, and Cavil are pretty good candidates based on their behavior to date. We could be ascribing motivations and philosophy where there is none but, given the backlash they know they would get, there's no way in the world they would ever come out and say anything blatantly RedPill let alone taking the name MGTOW. Which is fine, of course. MGTOW isn't an identity in the typical sense, rather some basic operating principles based on observation. Ver…
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 04:35 PM
2

Fully expect this one post to be used to "discredit" your opinion or reasoning in any future debate you may have on just about any topic. It doesn't matter that you disagree with the tenets of MGTOW, you've posted on this reddit. I have seen it happen. Also, don't be surprised if you are banned from certain reddits, even ones you've never participated in, for precisely the same reason. I've seen this happen as well.
/r/MGTOW14/01/19 04:29 PM
10

She charged at him. She could have walked away, as you suggest he do, but she decided to charge. That's an attack. You can also see that she shoved him when his back was to her. That is likewise an attack. He shoved her back, she charged, he defended himself. Despite the apparent belief to the contrary, men do have the right to defend themselves against attacks by women.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/01/19 02:09 PM
8

He didn't knock out an 11 year old girl, he knocked out someone attacking him and his family. The assailant's demographics are irrelevant.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/01/19 02:06 PM
2

Ok. Shrug. The obligation was only in your mind.
/r/MGTOW11/01/19 10:37 PM
11

As far as I can tell, feminism no longer claims it wants equality, rather it wants equity. The difference? Assuring equal outcomes no matter what. That's why trying to up the female participation rate in STEM programs is still such a thing, even though they've been throwing money at it for at least 30 years. Just about any woman who went into physics in the 80s would get all sorts of fellowships, grants, and scholarships far in excess of that warranted by her academic achievement. I don't know i…
/r/MGTOW11/01/19 09:02 PM
1

It's more subtle than that, I'm afraid. She could very well be in complete earnest in believing that she will keep her promises. But, and this is the critical thing, the old expression "it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind" is still implicitly considered valid. That is why women breaking promises or oaths is never seen as a big deal, or not much of one, to a wider audience.
/r/MGTOW11/01/19 08:55 PM
17

In all honesty, it's probably for the best that she and women like her list out all their outrageous demands. That way, you know not to waste any time or effort on them even if you meet their criteria.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/19 03:17 PM
15

Hmmm, good point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/19 02:07 PM
35

This would be good for men with a vasectomy: low effort, low risk bareback sex with none of the bullshit. Otherwise, it's asking to get support-raped. The woman can say she won't do that but: Nothing keeping her from "changing her mind", an accepted woman's prerogative because vagina and "think of the childreeeeeeeeeeen" Even IF the woman keeps her word (ha!), the state will go after him especially if the woman ever files for benefits
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/19 12:56 PM
-1

Record everything, at all times. If they can't bribe you, they'll falsely accuse you.
/r/MGTOW11/01/19 12:41 PM
3

They are responsible enough to stay in business, but that's about it. That's a very different thing than being "trustworthy", "reliable", or "accurate".
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 10:48 PM
7

The National Enquirer is still in business. The Weekly World News is still in business. Briebart is still in business. MSNBC is still in business. By your logic, they're all "responsible".
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 10:39 PM
7

Ah, but notice that they don't quote anyone in that article...There's a few screenshots, but otherwise, few original sources. For instance, their characterization of MGTOW. Who's going to sue them for libel?
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 10:00 PM
17

Yeah, if you think Vice is a responsible news organization....well, you're welcome to your opinion.
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 09:39 PM
12

I've never seen "punch feminists" being advocated on MGTOW, nor "baseball knowledge should a voting prerquisite".
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 09:28 PM
5

Men are doing what they've always done: make their own choices about what it means to be a man. I'm sure the cucks and simps think they are doing the right thing but, though we can demonstrate how it is contrary to their best interests, dignity, and well-being, it is still their choice to make. As long as you make the right choice, that's all that ultimately matters to you.
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 07:27 PM
1

It was incredibly misogynistic to quote her profile and then express interest in her willingness. /s It is evident that few if any actually hold women responsible for their words.
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 06:30 PM
5

Once it's done, it's done. Further contact at best would be a pointless waste of time, and more likely it will be negative for you in some fashion. Your experience adds evidence to this conclusion, and I do thank you for sharing it as a warning to other MGTOWs. Ghost. Ghost completely, and without exception. It's the only way.
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 01:57 AM
9

Men forge new trails, women follow when its safe.
/r/MGTOW08/01/19 08:48 PM
6

They'll keep doing it as long as people keep buying the games. The amusing thing is the pressure to do such absurd characterizations is that it isn't borne of economic pressure, but rather SJW whiners who may or may not even play the game. Probably not. You see the same sort of thing across many entertainment venues: basically, piss on the core audience to placate some tiny minority. StarWars was the same way, so was that horrendous reboot of Ghostbusters a few years ago.
/r/MGTOW08/01/19 07:54 PM
1

Whether feminists, tradcons, PUA, or soyboys, they are offended at the notion that many here say: Meh, pussy isn't worth the hassle. What also confuses them is that there is a spectrum of MGTOW, from essentially TRP who just won't ever under any circumstances get married, through PUA, to monks, and everything in between. This mostly depends on the MGTOW's thirst level and risk tolerance. We just have the gall to say: women are not the most important thing in life, and that absolutely infuriates …
/r/MGTOW07/01/19 11:38 PM
1

Of course these sorts of poster know we're not Incels. They just can not stand a group that says: What you hold as the most important thing in the world has little, no, or even negative, value to us. Hence, trolling to put us on the defensive. It's a tiresome tactic that apparently these simps and white knight wannabes think makes them brave, or clever, or Shitlords. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW07/01/19 11:32 PM
8

LOL. Awww, leave the kid alone. He's trying to show off for a girl!
/r/MGTOW07/01/19 08:20 PM
5

Just don't marry them or get them pregnant, and you're fine.
/r/MGTOW07/01/19 06:48 PM
12

It's posts like these that make any sympathy I would have for trauma endured by women evaporate. FGM, abuse, rape? Oh well, shit happens, and you just need to suck it up buttercup and put aside your damsel-in-distress mentality.
/r/MGTOW06/01/19 03:54 PM
22

You were told correctly. Notice that upon rejection, the invocation of sour grapes happens instantly: you are somehow defective for rejecting her advances. This is despite the reasoning you gave was respectful, applied to anyone, and is really the smart move. Romantic entanglements, even under the most ideal conditions, very rarely have a positive impact on academic performance. It's also interesting how quickly she asserts that she "hates you anyway". Curious way to show it, to inquire about wh…
/r/MGTOW04/01/19 09:27 PM
5

I believe there are plenty of women that I enjoy the company of...so is dating them and having fun with them somehow bad? I would say no, of course not. Just don't marry them for christ sake. Don't cohabitate and don't get baby-trapped. And always, always, maintain the mindset that you can walk away in 30 seconds flat if the need arises.
/r/MGTOW203/01/19 09:14 PM
8

I see your point, but really, what is more apropos for MGTOW than a man and his dog?
/r/MGTOW31/12/18 10:19 PM
10

As I've always maintained, we're fighting against our own biology, psychology, and social conditioning to a large degree. Being reminded why MGTOW is the best choice, the only rational one with respect to marriage at the very least is an on-going thing in the struggle, particularly for the younger guys.
/r/MGTOW31/12/18 10:18 PM
5

Which is why the person who chooses to have a child should be the only one responsible for that child. If she can't afford it, there's always adoption.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 09:37 PM
6

I used to be a kind and helpful person Those are the nice words used to describe a sucker.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 07:20 PM
9

Her body, her choice, her responsibility. Outside of marriage, the man has no ethical obligation to recognize, let alone support, a bastard that the woman chose to have.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 07:13 PM
5

It's easy advice to give, difficult to follow, but first things first: take care of the little things. Set a schedule for cleaning as an example and stick to it. It will be a grind at first, and you very well may keep saying "why bother?", but it's important to have some anchors of a schedule in your non-working life. Dishes, do immediately after eating, no exceptions. Probably limit the gaming to some number of hours per day, and stick to it. As you pay more attention and care for your home env…
/r/MGTOW231/12/18 04:40 PM
22

Almost all of us will be forgotten. How many people from the 18th century can you name? Several hundred million people were alive in that century, and it was only a little over 200 years ago, but I doubt many of us could name more than a few hundred of them. How about the 11th century? Probably even fewer. The point is not to worry about "echoing in eternity", but to live and enjoy your life now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 04:30 PM
2

God damn. Applause to the author.
/r/MGTOW29/12/18 05:49 PM
7

Great list! I hadn't seen it before, thanks for sharing. I would say the response to "Charge of Endangerment" could be: Men are dangerous. We're the apex predators on this planet. We killed off species whose individual members were 10x or more our size with rocks and sticks. We've developed much better tools since then. The only thing left that poses a serious threat is other men. Perhaps it would be a good idea not to antagonize us.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 09:33 PM
4

Heh. Yeah, essentially.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 07:24 PM
2

LOL. I've linked that article several times as a source for the 80% statistic but honestly, I've never read it. I assumed that since it's a "why women...." article, it was either going to be how her breaking her lifetime vows is a virtue, how it's the man's fault, or some combination of the two.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/12/18 05:53 PM
9

The wedding industry is a 70 billion a year racket. It pervades popular culture, advertising of one form or another is everywhere. Despite that, marriage rates are declining so, while few would call themselves MGTOW, the message or at least the rational evaluation of marriage from a man's perspective IS having an influence.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 05:21 PM
9

There's still a tendency to blame the man for the divorce, even if it is admitted that the hosebeast is completely mental. The reasoning goes "Well, you didn't vet propertly". This argument is still considered valid in many circles when applied to the man. Hell, I've had it thrown at me recently when I recounted my divorce from 15 years ago. However, if the tables are turned, whoa be unto him who suggests that a woman didn't vet properly if it turns out her husband is violent/abusive. That is ca…
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 05:17 PM
3

LOL. Nah, this is a great time to be alive. Society has become very entertaining and, as long as you handle yourself reasonably well, it is still navigable.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 05:07 PM
47

Essentially, the kids are like pimps, getting a cut for services the mom renders.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 05:06 PM
21

A used womb.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 05:04 PM
6

Well spoken! While it's not explicitly mentioned often, MGTOW is ultimately about dignity and honor. Neither of these are dependent on services rendered to a woman, despite the attempts to conflate them in some way (i.e. "manning up").
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 05:04 PM
2

Yeah, about half a dozen. Still have to pay federal, but no additional state income tax. Texas, Florida, Wyoming, Alaska off the top of my head, but I know there are a few more.
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 03:39 PM
1

Well, I'm sure you can find that in almost any state but it has to be the right area. Personally, my criteria is cost of living, tax levels and 2A friendliness. While it's not necessarily the best move from a financial perspective, I would never live in a state that has an income tax, for instance. I'm offended enough by having to report my dealings to the feds, much less another entity. Take Texas, for instance. No state income tax, but property tax is somewhat high as is sales tax. It's a net …
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 03:08 PM
42

LMAO. Gold mine for men? Sure, if by that you mean toiling away in the bowels of the earth as a hired miner, getting some pittance pay while extracting wealth from the ground (work) for the benefit of employers (wife). Marriage has always been about wealth extraction from the most productive members of society (single men) to the least productive members (mothers).
/r/MGTOW27/12/18 04:15 PM
4

Avoiding war zones is generally a smart idea. Unless you're a Rambo, no one really wants to be in a war zone.
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 08:28 PM
1

What happens the other 29 seconds?
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 08:02 PM
16

If you're done with them, there's no point in further communication. One must cultivate an attitude of indifference and, eventually, it will come naturally. If you're not done with them, apologizing is the last thing you want to do.
/r/MGTOW26/12/18 06:25 PM
18

Per capita, that's not true. There are some classes of crimes where even in absolute terms it's not true
/r/MGTOW24/12/18 05:14 PM
39

Yes, that was definitely a bad decision: the state has no business designating "separate but equal" facilities.
/r/MGTOW24/12/18 03:05 PM
33

https://www.divorcesource.com/blog/why-women-file-80-percent-of-divorces/ There are other sources that put it @70%, and some that reveal that 90% of college educated women are the ones who initiate divorce. 50% of marriages end in divorce. With numbers like these, it is evident that: Marriage is a failed institution Men are taking a much larger share of the risk in engaging in marriage
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/12/18 01:24 PM
1129

How is that legal? If one makes a crime-based statistical argument to justify it then by the same logic a whites-only parking lot would be acceptable.
/r/MGTOW24/12/18 01:18 PM
1

Yeahhhh, I think this sort of crap is just trolling on their part, to trigger a reaction.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/12/18 05:43 PM
23

They are private companies, they can de-platform whomever they like for whatever reason they like.
/r/MGTOW20/12/18 07:20 PM
2

Excellent! You've moved on perfectly.
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 06:06 PM
0

First year is the worst, since you get to have each holiday/birthday/event without her for the first time. It's like after someone dies in that respect. Unless you found something else to occupy your time. However, either way, it just gets easier from here on out for you, Sir. Congratulations and good fortune!
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 05:58 PM
0

It's 70 billion a year racket, the wedding industry. The marketing is so pervasive that's it's just wallpaper to most people. Once you put on the "They Live" glasses, you see it everywhere, and see the underlying sales job done to men: if you buy this rock and give it to her on bended knee, you'll be a hero in her eyes. And somehow, the marketing actually works. SMH.
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 05:56 PM
8

That's what makes MGTOW, MGTOW. It's not about men as a group, it's about one man at a time. Here are the divorce, alimony, and CS statistics. Here is how you can expect to fare in these endeavors. You decide if it's worth it, and the level of engagement you're willing to have. If you've gone through it, like many of us have, it's good to know that it isn't us, it's the nature of the system.
/r/MGTOW19/12/18 04:45 PM
4

It's not a legal requirement, but it does happen. Some physicians require it, and won't perform the procedure without it.
/r/MGTOW217/12/18 02:34 PM
9

Whether they call themselves MGTOW or not doesn't matter: they're taking MGTOWesque steps to protect themselves. That's the beauty of not being a movement: the only thing that matters is the idea, not the identity.
/r/MGTOW217/12/18 02:31 PM
5

Good grief, that's not even good trolling. SUGGESTION to MODS: Put a karma/age of account minimum on new top-level posts. Let them comment, just not make these sort of posts. I think the number of posts like the above has gotten beyond ridiculous, and pretty much constitutes spamming at this point.
/r/MGTOW16/12/18 08:35 PM
17

Even in my most BP of days, I never understood that reaction, to blame the man rather than the wife (same thing if its woman/husband). The person outside of the marriage doesn't owe you a damn thing, they didn't swear a vow to you. I mean, sure, it's sleazy if they did it knowingly, but they didn't betray you.
/r/MGTOW14/12/18 10:56 PM
11

I'd narrow it down to one thing: you are a man with resources without a woman. They implicitly see that as a waste or at the very least underutilized.
/r/MGTOW14/12/18 10:39 PM
1

As I recall, it's just a mathematical function in which you put in various demographic information such as age, race, sex, income, etc and it calculates either the percentage chance of death for the coming year or the average expected age to live.
/r/MGTOW14/12/18 01:43 AM
1

Wellll, that might not be a great idea: short tenures at former employers raise eyebrows, and make the OP at best seem skittish.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 10:53 PM
7

Knew a guy from grad school that ended up becoming an actuary. I was very appreciative of the naming of "The Death function".
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 10:52 PM
1

By Jove, I think you're onto something. I could imagine it being something like: <CantGetPnDByChadAnymore>Where have all the good men gone?</CantGetPnDByChadAnymore>
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 10:33 PM
8

That shit has been going on with pharmaceutical reps for decades.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 10:21 PM
11

You're there to work, not engage in conversation. Head down, just work, record everything at all times.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 09:10 PM
21

Laws won't change nature.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 05:10 PM
5

We laugh at their behavior rather than enable it. That's why we're not cucked.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 05:07 PM
1

That's still dying alone, you just have an audience.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 04:42 PM
2

I'm 53, and zero regrets about it as well. I saved myself 20+ years of grinding away with no choice at best, but more likely the inevitable divorce-rape and custody battle that happens when kids are involved.
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 04:34 PM
1

Interesting. So putting the "good man" on the backburner while riding the CC would be analogous to shorting betas while putting a long on chad. The reasoning being that if one of the Chads doesn't work out, she can still make bank by closing the short on the Beta. Slowly, by baby steps, the betas are starting to wake up to this, though. Still a minority, of course, but enough to squeeze the short so that some are worrying in print "where have all the good men gone" when they hit the wall and are…
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 04:28 AM
1

Yeah, in which case it might not be a bad idea to drop all tutoring: even ignoring the metoo thing, it could be seen as a conflict of interest. I know when I was in grad school, no grad students that I'm aware did any paid tutoring concurrently with having a TA for exactly that reason. It wasn't official policy or anything, it just seemed like the right thing. If that's not a concern, there's the real possibility of it being discovered that you'll only tutor men. In current year, that's not a ch…
/r/MGTOW13/12/18 04:16 AM
4

Yeah, if you lift enough, it'll make those false metoo allegations just dissolve in the wind. /s
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 11:34 PM
3

There's been Forbes articles about wall street workers taking precautions. That's about as mainstream as it gets.
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 11:09 PM
2

I did tutoring in physics after grad school and before my first real job. This was in the early 90s, though, so there wasn't any sort of concern about false allegations. The only precaution I took was never hooking up with my students, either tutoring or when I was a TA, but that was more a power imbalance ethical choice than a concern. It was generally seen as the wisest course of action, though it was not universally followed by either grad students or professors for that matter. Tutoring was …
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 11:07 PM
3

I think you have your answer then. If you don't need to take the risk, there's little reason to do so. Do you have a TA? If so, that's plenty of experience. If not, well, just concentrate on helping the menfolk and gain your teaching experience from that.
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 10:31 PM
2

Run the audio recorder on your phone. Save the files by date, time, and tutored student name. Save these to a cloud, not just on your phone. If there's any future accusation, you'll have a recording of the time/date it supposedly happened. It would also be a good idea to keep a log of every tutoring session by date, time, and student name and perhaps a sentence on topics covered. That way, you'll have a record of every interaction with every tutored student in case they try to be vague with date…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 10:09 PM
1

So, is this a real situation you're currently in or just a gedanken experiment?
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 10:00 PM
1

Yeah, I guess that's a cool revenge fantasy and all, but the real answer is no under any and all circumstances. You would be buying trouble with any other answer. Just remember, she never was nor will be ever yours, it was just your turn. Maybe add a plate to your collection, but I wouldn't do that if there was prior history of disrespect as evidenced by cheating which implies a formerly exclusive relationship. What compromises a man may make to slake his thirst is a function of its intensity an…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 09:48 PM
17

There are three reactions women have to a man's hardships: Over-the-top emotional response, so that the focus becomes her reaction rather than the man's plight. This is somewhat rare, and it is dependent on where the man stands in demographic victim bingo, but I have seen it. What is far more common is.. Immediate changing of the focus to her going through something she found terrible and, almost no matter what, she will insist was worst. At best, she might acknowledge that the man has had a har…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 09:42 PM
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As incredulous as it seems to you or me, I can only infer that it works for them. Men are paying them money or else there wouldn't be so many trying to cash in. I would expect the majority of these women make little or any money, but I could be wrong about that. I view it as analogous to telemarketers. It seems incredible to me that someone, anyone, would engage in business with someone as the result of an unsolicited cold call, but there must be a certain hit rate for it or else the practice wo…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 09:08 PM
1

There are a ton of success stories but they are usually short on details as there is a concern about doxing. Basically, all the stories concerning women are reminders of why it's in a man's best interests to GHOW. After all, we are attempting something against the laws of god, man, and nature. At every turn, whether religious, societal mores and marketing, or our own biological urges, we are cajoled to place importance on pursuing women, protecting women, serving women. The 70 billion dollar a y…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 07:10 PM
8

Agreed, and I am emphasizing that "moving on" means not being a beta simp hanger on.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 06:34 PM
15

The best source I could find was Bismark: “Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/294225-only-a-fool-learns-from-his-own-mistakes-the-wise
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 06:30 PM
4

Why would one help the enemy? I can't say I particularly like using that term, but it's fairly obvious we are their enemies, and they will use any weapon in their arsenal to bring us down. It's every man's choice how he conducts his public and private life, but failing to recognize enemies is a recipe for personal disaster.
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 06:28 PM
17

Ghosting solves this problem. It's difficult, of course, as one is attracted and still holds out some irrational hope that it will be reciprocated. However, this so rarely if ever happens that it's a rounding error to an otherwise universal truth: physical attraction is decided in the first five seconds, and no amount of pleading, begging, or being a white knight is ever going to change that. At best, you might get laid out of appreciation, but you'll be resented for it. That's why it's best for…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 06:16 PM
6

Same old story. The only thing that has (slightly) changed for a relatively small number of men is that they don't see the man as a hero of the story, rather a fool being used.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 06:07 PM
2

Being called "nice" is bad enough: it means that she sees you as a doormat, useful for removing the crud of the world from her feet. "Too nice" means that she doesn't even respect you for this service you provide and the fact that she is comfortable enough to actually verbalize this disrespect means she thinks she has you hook, line, and sinker landed. The choice is yours, of course, and if you're comfortable being that for her, then I wish you good fortune.
/r/MGTOW212/12/18 06:04 PM
10

I decided to refuse to mentor women ten years ago. At the time, the concern was more for being saddled with their workload if they start breeding. This had happened to me twice in my career up to that point and there was no way I was going to allow the possibility of a hat trick. Metoo has only made this decision more wise. Anyone who makes the dubious choice to mentor women and isn't doing at least the following is a fool: Follow the Pence rule. Have an audio recorder running at all times at wo…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 05:45 PM
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As a group, men enable them. I don't see anything changing that on a macro scale, nor do I honestly really care if it does. As long as I'm not falling for it, that I'm not propping them up, then I consider it a win. MGTOW isn't about men, it's about one man at a time. You can either be that man or not, the choice is yours.
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 05:32 PM
2

Like they did for most of human history? At worst, that aspect returns to historical norms. They'll wait til they marriage-trap or baby-trap him to let loose those bon mots.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 05:15 PM
12

They are so secure in their privilege that they don't even see the need to lie, let alone spare the feelings of their beta.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 05:12 PM
13

What I find amusing is the idea that her past is "none of his business". Oh, really? If he had a criminal record, or a rape allegation, in his past, would you consider that your business? If no, then you are consistent. If yes, then you are a hypocrite employing a double standard.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/18 05:10 PM
3

I'm going to address your Pros and argue that in the vast majority of cases, it's a pro for the woman not the man: Access to employer-sponsored insurance. While this could be a benefit to the man in the event of employment loss, it is much more often that it would serve the woman as she is much more likely to take multiple-years out of the workforce than men. This is common knowledge, but it is also backed up by Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS): Women participate in the labor force at rate 10% l…
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 04:42 PM
5

Meh, those who can see through the bullshit characterizations like that will find MGTOW. Those who can't, won't. After all, it's your choice whether you swallow the blue or red pill....
/r/MGTOW11/12/18 11:19 PM
1

It's not a question of if, it's when. The fastest growing segment of the divorce industry is "gray divorce". Showing their AWALT nature is for women like prostate cancer is for men: if they live long enough, they will get it.
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 11:25 PM
8

Men just want to fuck, they don't have a biological urge to have children like women do. It's ego, or trying to please the woman, in the vast majority of cases. Ego either in the sense of "Real men have children" or in the sense of "carrying on name/genes". Either way, it's learned behavior, and thus can be altered.
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 11:20 PM
9

They're all unicorns until you put a ring on it and/or they have kids. Everything changes at either juncture, and not for the better from a man's perspective.
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 10:55 PM
1

Oh well. Shrug. If you can't avoid working with women, this is the next best thing.
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 08:26 PM
1

To quote the original AOL source: Me Too!
/r/MGTOW10/12/18 08:21 PM
28

More and more men are recognizing that marriage is a dangerous, expensive, and bad deal for them. It doesn't matter if they call themselves MGTOW or not, the overwhelming majority are putting the fundamental tenet into practice.
/r/MGTOW210/12/18 05:57 PM
9

No, the wage gap doesn't exist: women working the exact same job with the exact same credentials make the same or even more than men per hour. The earnings gap does exist, and that's because as a group women participate in the labor market at a lower rate and, when they do, they work fewer hours. Here's the stats from the BLS: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2007/jan/wk2/art03.htm this shows that women participate in the labor market at a rate 10% lower than men in terms of absolute population. If …
/r/MGTOW04/12/18 08:32 PM
4

It's called "the war between the sexes". One doesn't perform a life-saving procedure that could open you up to severe counter-attack (false allegation, improper delivery, etc) for the enemy.
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 11:28 PM
21

He wasn't FZed, he was ghosted. That's much better, as it is a definitive answer. Ghosting solves a great many problems, whether done by a man or a woman.
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 09:14 PM
17

They're over half the population and a source of danger for men. Of course GYOW involves strategies for dealing with them.
/r/MGTOW03/12/18 06:02 PM
1

Not just her fsce is broad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 05:45 AM
3

A man pursuing his own best interests rather than hers. That means a man like the ones she's been involved with for the last ten years: maybe willing to PnD her, but definitely not LTR or god forbid MRS her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 05:43 AM
10

Ghosting means not responding to any any all attempts at communication. You might want to tear her a new one via text or social media, but don't do it. It will still be attention, albeit negative attention. It would also be a way for her hamster to rationalize that she's "suffered enough", or "paid" for her transgressions. While difficult, radio silence is the absolute best course of action for you: any communication is going to get you worked up and, god forbid, forgive her. That is the path to…
/r/MGTOW30/11/18 01:55 PM
0

We're both winning: she gets "her day" without bothering to find a man willing to do it, and a man isn't bothered by her wanting "her day".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/18 09:47 PM
1

When you have a 50% failure rate for vows that are suppose to be life-long, it's a joke already.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/18 09:44 PM
2

I wonder if Mr. Right was actually named Mr. Ed?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/18 09:43 PM
9

Hence #MentorHer
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/18 11:36 PM
4

No, of course not, never claimed otherwise. My point was there is a hierarchy of what groups are allowed to actually act in advocate for their own best interests.
/r/MGTOW26/11/18 01:43 AM
12

Exactly. The truth she speaks would be sad and disheartening if the goal of MGTOW were to change men as a group, to re-write social mores. No, the "goal" of MGTOW is to present the evidence and let each man decide how much engagement he wants with women. Marriage is, of course, completely off the table as the asymmetrical nature of the arrangement is entirely not in any man's best interest. The declining marriage rates, while certainly not due to MGTOW as an identity almost certainly reflect som…
/r/MGTOW25/11/18 05:10 PM
20

Like it or not, we are in the age of identity politics. Men, particularly white men, are villainized if they dare to participate as a group. Rather, it's a divide and conquer strategy: every other minority is allowed to advocate their own best interests, but not men and, again, particularly not white men. Hence, you get "movements" or rather, general trends taken by individuals in this group as a solution. These involve withdrawing from one form of social/economic activity or another as the deck…
/r/MGTOW25/11/18 04:41 PM
4

It's potentially even worse: there's no outside atmosphere to cycle out any airborne pathogens unlike on a ship at sea. If the scrubbers don't remove it, it's going to stay there. On a somewhat related note, I've been watching Isaac Arthur's futurism channel. He's a big proponent of O'Neil cylinders, which to me look like another really shitty place to live: no matter where you stand, you're at the bottom of the pringle can world.
/r/MGTOW17/11/18 02:15 PM
6

Mars is a shithole, it baffles me that anyone would want to live there. If you want a taste of Mars, build a colony in Antarctica, but with lower transportation costs, earth-normal gravity, no need to bring/manufacture your own air/pressure or water, and much less need for radiation shielding.
/r/MGTOW17/11/18 01:47 PM
1

The point is, there's no reason to bargain at all, it only makes them look weak. Like getting out of the friendzone, bargaining never works and only makes them look like pathetic entitled whiners. They aren't banned, just quarantined. It would have been better if they had just laughingly acknowledged it, perhaps spinning quarantined as being like a VIP room not as easily accessible to the masses as others, and then ignored it. As for "manage to get the link to that horrible 'positve masculinity'…
/r/MGTOW217/11/18 01:38 PM
1

To get to the other side. Heh, that sorta works as a play on the old chicken/road joke, just with a different meaning for "get".
/r/MGTOW217/11/18 01:11 PM
6

It's still there, and they're still bargaining like betas from a position of weakness: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/9lcyio/our_appeal_of_the_quarantine_to_the_reddit_admin/ The reasoning being that if they manage to put enough debate coins into the Reddit admins, they'll be taken out of the quarantine zone. Not working well so far, but there's always hope! /s
/r/MGTOW217/11/18 01:10 PM
3

LOL. Damn, nice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/18 12:58 PM
6

Yeah, easy pickings not a challenge. Well, the challenge is not to get trapped by a post-wall thot with spawn, either baby-trapped (precedent) or a cascading bailout scenario. But as far as her being a hard-fought valuable prize? Yeah, no. The kids alone tells you that, as does the profile on a dating app.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/18 12:57 PM
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If "men ain't shit", why would you want five of them? Personally, I don't want things that I find contemptible, let alone five of them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/18 12:52 PM
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They are the predominant leech class.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/18 01:37 AM
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And really, even 50k wouldn't cut it after taxes. I'd hazard the break-even point would be closer to 60k, in which case it would be (effectively) working for no benefit, plus the added costs of commuting, daycare, etc. How many single moms who qualified for those benefits could even dream of getting a job that pays 30 an hour? Most of them are HS at best or, my favorite, "some college" which apparently is seen as meaning something today.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/18 01:36 AM
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While that makes a certain amount of sense, it fails to explain the following: 70 billion USD a year wedding industry which almost exclusively caters to women: https://blog.marketresearch.com/the-wedding-industry-in-2017-and-beyond The prevalence of articles bemoaning "Where are all the good men", documented on this sub quite often The prevalence of dating profiles of reformed CC riders, looking for a "good man" and wanting to "settle down" in a relationship. Likewise documented on this sub. So,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/11/18 01:30 AM
11

The notion of the patriarchy just cracks me up: men are each other's biggest competitors and biggest threats. If men at some political strata were united, then historically and evolutionary, there is no serious threat on the planet that could stand against them. I mean, hell, it's entirely possible that men are responsible for the extinction of the saber tooth tiger in Europe in the course of a few thousand years. That's by a small number of primitive screwheads barely able to use rocks and stic…
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 08:59 PM
1

Well done! If you're open to suggestions perhaps have an explanation in the sidebar, stating why that subreddit was created. Moderated only by men, answers only by men. Women are welcome, but only to ask questions and pursue followups to questions, not to give answers.
/r/MGTOW216/11/18 05:35 PM
14

I never understood how that's an argument; we made this country, so of course we are going to enjoy the fruits of our labor. The "rest of the world" is free to do the same. If they fail to do so, well, that's not my problem.
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 03:24 PM
4

Just look for the lack of a y chromosome.
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 02:44 PM
3

its seems like they genuinelly seek happiness of men Not according to the mods of that comm: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9r2ryp/red_pill_woman_in_a_nutshell/e8eexpy/ When talked about the unfair contract that is marriage for men, this is the quote from a mod at RPW: "We are not discussing equality - RPW is amoral and marriage is often the goal for women regardless of it's impact on men." Shout out to u/secant128 for sharing that. It very well may help many still in the bargaining pha…
/r/MGTOW216/11/18 02:11 PM
5

The wonder isn't that they were de-monetized, the wonder is it took this long. We all know MGTOW is being painted as an "alt-right" hate group, another term that has been hijacked and redefined by the MSM. Unless another platform gains traction, such as minds.com or similar, these groups will be persecuted. It's the way of the world in current year. The beauty of MGTOW is that it doesn't matter, ultimately. It's not a movement, it's an idea backed by irrefutable statistics. It's what a good man …
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 02:08 PM
1

Someone could start another comm, perhaps AskActualMen or AskRealMen
/r/MGTOW216/11/18 01:44 PM
2

Predators posing as house pets.
/r/MGTOW215/11/18 11:22 PM
3

It was never really in men's favor. Rather, men were incentivized to "man up" by dying in wars, toiling for a woman, being treated with higher standards by the legal system, etc. It was a social bargain. Now, men are still expected to do those things, but there is no incentive. Hence, the phenomenon of opting out known as MGTOW, though there are other related names as well, such as variations on "Going Galt" or "dropping out". What irks opponents to no end is that we're still here, still in soci…
/r/MGTOW215/11/18 11:06 PM
4

The thing is, nothing is ever going to change: women are not clamoring for more responsibility at all about anything, they just want "equity" which means equal outcomes no matter what for beneficial things. That's why physical standards are changed in police forces, military, etc, that's why laws are being passed (in California to start) mandating quotas on boards of directors. It's also why women are not clamoring that the asymmetry in the courts, particularly family courts, be reformed. It ext…
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 10:36 PM
25

LOL. A hard-looking 40, and a ...what maybe 4/10 on a good day? Jesus.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 09:03 PM
1

Assuming it actually happened, the catcalls are inappropriate. However, the "lack of care they have for our safety and well-being" is right on the mark. We're all adults, responsible for our own well-being and solving our own problems. If I had seen this thot on the side of the road, I would have expressed this by keeping on driving, as it looks entirely like a not my problem situation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/18 08:19 PM
4

Lots o' drama, as to be expected, between people that I either never heard of (most of them) or find meh at best (Howard Dare). Yeah, hard pass.
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 08:07 PM
1

The key to phone interviews is to watch yourself in a mirror while doing them, standing the whole time. Note your posture, keeping it good, and note your facial expression avoiding scowls or smirks. Unless you're trained otherwise, these will reflect in both your tone and demeanor during the interview. In-person interviews are another matter since you won't have that same sort of "safe" feedback. Make sure you have some normal hobbies at the ready if you're asked; leading with drinking, video ga…
/r/MGTOW215/11/18 07:21 PM
1

Gas tax for roads or, in the event of electric, per mile tax. That's the fairest way to pay for roads, as it is wholly proportional to use. Any other state function could be paid for via the sales tax. Again, proportional to use of the predominant function of government, making a safe environment for commerce.
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 04:39 PM
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He is flawed; he hasn't bought into the Disney narrative. From the current societal perspective, that's a defect. Off to the re-education camps with him!
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 01:28 PM
25

It's such a shame, too: Europe resisted Mohammedan invasion for a millennium, turning the tide decisively in the 1600s. The last vestiges of concentrated power for them was dismantled after World War I. And yet, Europe under German hegemony is now welcoming them in. It makes an odd sort of sense: the Mohammedans were never a threat to Germany, buffered by neighbors to the south. Even Austria came to terms with them despite a bloody history.
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 09:15 PM
3

The U.S. needs to Nexit (NATO exit) ASAP. Western Europe (Germany particularly) is our enemy, which historically they've been save when they were essentially vassals during the cold war.
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 09:10 PM
1

She's an unstable headcase. Hard pass, particularly at your age.
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 05:42 PM
1

Well, it's meant to be descriptive rather than predictive. However, N-count statistics might serve as a reasonable indicator of "alphaness".
/r/MGTOW213/11/18 08:26 PM
44

Marriage is a bad deal for men: 50% of marriages end in divorce: https://www.apa.org/topics/divorce/ Women initiate the divorce 70% of the time: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-new-resilience/201508/women-initiate-divorce-much-more-men-heres-why with that number going up to 90% for college educated women: https://www.divorcemag.com/blog/why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/ 97% of alimony recipients are women https://www.sflg.com/blog/2014/11/why-are-only-3-percent-of-alimony-…
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 08:15 PM
2

I suspect that the alpha/beta dichotomy could best be expressed as a bi-modal distribution, with unequal peaks around 0.8 alpha (smaller) and about 0.2 alpha (larger). That is, the x-axis represents "alphaness" in some sense while the y is proportion of male population. Yes, there are "gray areas" between these peaks, but they make a relatively small percentage of the population. Normalization requires that integrating over the alpha variable from 0 to 1 yields 1, representing the entire male po…
/r/MGTOW213/11/18 04:13 PM
8

Exactly the same situation: bed, some cool chairs, and a desk in a two story house. No appliances. So, I bought exactly what I wanted when I wanted and turned what was our house into my home. It was exciting and glorious.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 03:51 PM
9

It just floors me that some man is willing to settle for that.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 03:40 PM
1

Nothing wrong with some revenge. Women should get accustomed to rejection as perhaps it will help them cope post-wall. Nothing women haven't been doing all along, and turnabout is fair play.
/r/MGTOW13/11/18 02:15 PM
1

That won't be an issue for at least another century even assuming current growth rates. With current technology, the carrying capacity can be expanded by a factor of ten. One example would be desert reclamation, such as the Sahara and Outback. Either one of those would expand food production by a factor of ten from current levels, and either one could be done with current tech. It would be easier and cheaper with a better power source such as fusion, but even current power generation techniques …
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:42 PM
1

Nothing wrong with a FWB, as long as you don't let yourself ever think that it's anything but that. It inevitably leads to ruination.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:38 PM
2

Just stick to that plan no matter what and you'll be fine.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:34 PM
2

No, and no. However, that's irrelevant in this context. The only thing of concern is a 20 y.o. who is talking himself into believing he's found a unicorn. Keep it up, and it will make you do stupid things.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:32 PM
1

You have a FWB, not a unicorn.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:28 PM
0

All those graphs pretty much parallel exponential population growth, as would be expected. Even at current tech levels, the carrying capacity of earth is at least an order of magnitude higher than today. That means at least another century of continued growth at current rates and, by all estimates, the rate is going to start decreasing the middle of this century. TLDR: chicken little bullshit.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:07 PM
4

She's still an adult, recognized as having the right to make her own decisions. If she listened to bad advice, that's still on her. Sounds like she's soaking you for CS, and even getting "advances" on it in cash no less. Good luck proving that to the family court if you try to go light one month since you pre-paid.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 07:00 PM
2

LOL. Ok, you enjoy them then.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 06:52 PM
3

My job is what I get paid to do.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 06:47 PM
3

Exactly. Not exactly sure it would take an interpersonal relationship, though. It sounds like her senior people mostly women might be checkbox competent, but can't problem-solve to save their lives. I wonder who will be expected to mentor/bail them out when the owner doesn't want to deal with it?
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 06:42 PM
3

Amazing, they're breeding like rats.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 06:38 PM
3

It's his choice, but it's not his own way. It's purposefully not his own way.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 06:32 PM
2

How many men are actually aware of the particulars of divorces/child support when they get married? How many know the law, and how responsibilities are conjured by judges out of thin air? How many are aware of the gynocentric nature of the court system and the laws for that matter? Or hell, hypergamy for that matter? No, there is no informed consent when a man marries, which means that he's pretty much acting on autopilot informed by the 70 billion USD a year wedding industry, a fair part of whi…
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 05:57 PM
2

LOL. That just means they will use every aspect of the law and the "unwritten clauses" of the marriage contract to rake you over the coals. 50% of marriages end in divorce, 80% of the time initiated by the woman. Pre-nups can be voided, and oftentimes are, so there's no protection of your assets that you bring into the partnership. Women comprise 97% of alimony recipients. And that's even ignoring child support which is alimony by another name, really.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 05:51 PM
14

No. Next question.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 05:47 PM
2

The asymmetry in marriage doesn't really allow a balance. You are legally tied to a woman financially, which severely limits/removes your choices.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 05:44 PM
2

Well, that's not really your own way, since it's what you've been programmed to do, are brow-beaten to do, and are expected to do by society.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 05:40 PM
5

A bird in the hand will probably shit on your fingers.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 05:16 PM
16

Not our job to save the world, that sounds like something the white knights might enjoy.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 04:45 PM
67

Keep the voice recorder on your phone running at all times. Gather snippets like In her words I’m “expected to stay later than the girls because they have trains to catch and kids to get home too” My annoyance is that she has rejected my requests for more pay (I’m also the lowest paid in the team, because again, I don’t have kids) and has absolutely ZERO interest towards my wellbeing. Get a lawyer and see if you have a sexual discrimination case: they are making you work more for less pay becaus…
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 04:10 PM
5

I would say there is some overlap, but it's rather incidental. After all, the fundamental tenet of MGTOW is that marriage is a terrible deal for men. After that, you have a spectrum of engagement with women by MGTOW, from essentially PUA to full on monk mode depending on a combination of thirst and risk tolerance. Tools developed by other RP communities in varying pursuits are used by MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW212/11/18 03:58 PM
2

Well said. MGTOW isn't out to save men as a group, and definitely not society. Rather, its "mission statement" to the degree it even has one is to present the reasoning and the evidence, and let each man decide.
/r/MGTOW212/11/18 03:48 PM
2

I disagree, I find TheBluePill very helpful: for instance, I learned about MGTOW2 there, and their dedicated hate-reading of the various RP forums alerts me to posts that I've missed.
/r/MGTOW212/11/18 03:45 PM
11

It's the best marketing they can do; "dumb enough" wouldn't make a great pitch. It's a Tom Sawyer painting the fence scenario.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/18 03:19 PM
1

Once you start noticing these sorts of things, they're everywhere. It is very much like the glasses in "They Live".
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 02:33 PM
70

This. The OP is her backup plan in case getting back with her ex doesn't work out.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 01:58 PM
2

https://archive.is/FJTD8 https://archive.is/YVOSr In a nutshell, though, GTOW doesn't mean oblivious to the world. Many MGTOW still pursue sex, and still have relationships with women of one form or another, it's just not the focus of one's life. The main take-away for MGTOW is not to get married, since it's a very bad deal for men. Most MGTOW would likewise advise against cohabitation, both for legal reasons and risk factors. After that, there's a spectrum from LTR all the way to monk mode, wit…
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 04:26 PM
11

No man aspires to that, they just accept it happening as "the next step" and/or dread the prospect of hunting for pussy again. Despite decades of warnings that the marriage bed becomes the death bed, men still think that things won't change, and hence they grab a seat before the music stops. Little do they know that the music doesn't stop, new stanzas are constantly being written. There are plenty of fish in the ocean. It's a tragedy when any man gets married, but doubly so for men in their 20s …
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 04:10 PM
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You were misinformed: https://archive.is/FJTD8 https://archive.is/YVOSr The major tenet of MGTOW is not to engage in entangling relationships with women: marriage definitely not and cohabiting almost certainly not. There are copious legal reasons for this, ultimately boiling down to variations on divorce rape. After that, MGTOW is a spectrum, ranging from (essentially) PUA all the way to monk mode with everything in between. And now you know.
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 09:43 AM
36

Meh, not sure the point of "pointing them out". One person's hate group is another person's political advocacy group. I mean, to me, the Democratic Party is a hate group, tacitly approving of sub-branches such as Antifa and BLM that have advocated or performed acts of violence.
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 09:35 AM
27

The continent is lost, surrendering to the Mohammedan invasion without resistance. Funny, after all those centuries of Europe fighting them off, they're just giving up when they have the clear military advantage.
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 09:31 AM
6

That's no correct. Non-hispanic whites make-up 60% of the population, and whites as a whole make up 72% of the population. I never quite understood why Hispanics are separated out; it would be like distinguishing Italians as a separate group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 09:28 AM
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It's not even a question of "just accepting it", it's organizations such as the SPLC that make such pronouncements are a joke. They are so obviously tainted by political agenda that they, or anyone who takes their decrees seriously, can be dismissed outright.
/r/MGTOW11/11/18 09:23 AM
1

Well, I'm all for people spending their money however they want. The problems with the wedding industry are: It caters almost exclusively to women. If one were to go through the various subcategories (dress, rings, etc), I would hazard to guess that the supermajority of the expenditures are entirely to fulfill women's desires/fantasies. Ultimately, men overwhelmingly pay for it. As long as cucks-to-be keep agreeing to it, it will keep happening.
/r/MGTOW10/11/18 05:15 PM
3

You are quite welcome.
/r/MGTOW10/11/18 01:11 AM
4

We both understand there is no reward, yet using this information you find that there is no reason to help people whereas others may not be discouraged as a good deed is often more rewarding when wanting nothing out of it. Well, good for them. If they find enjoyment out of being a servant, then they're welcome to enjoy. Also, invariably excluding women from your help because of the world's situation seems odd. I don't understand why, care to elaborated? Read this sub. Read the sidebar. But, in a…
/r/MGTOW10/11/18 12:44 AM
9

The old days are just that, old and past. The new reality which these poor men haven't embraced yet is that they are wasting their lives protecting strange women.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 11:32 PM
2

However, you can't deny that doing a good deed and helping someone is helpful. Helping is helpful, news at 11. The issue is that you think that by calling yourself a servant you are excluded of a reward that is rightfully yours. I specifically will not be a servant, hence I will not call myself one. I certainly don't need or want any sort of "reward" that may or may not be offered, hence I have no impetus to help anyone. I will, out of the kindness of my heart, help some people if they need it b…
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 11:22 PM
5

No such thing as a "deadbeat dad".
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 11:12 PM
4

LOL. When have I ever labeled myself as "unable to talk to women"? Citation needed. I talk to women every day, I just won't be the PRN servant of one and certainly not a stranger. Those days are done. And sure, helping someone may be "nice", but isn't compulsory and failing to do so isn't "mean" or whatever adjective you may wish to use. It's indifference. Who I choose to help is my choice, and I will use whatever criteria I desire.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 11:06 PM
4

Well, 40 at least. You really started seeing that in the late 70s in the popular culture: sitcoms became littered with the bumbling clueless father as a trope.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 10:59 PM
11

Also, nothing wrong with not doing that either.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 10:49 PM
5

Not in the least. He didn't make any sort of "move", he just didn't make himself the servant of a strange woman nor did he interfere in her life at all. Shocking concept, I know, and it amuses me to no end that the implicit assumption of white knighting is so ingrained that his not acting is seen as a "douche move".
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 10:48 PM
10

True, but who one chooses to help is entirely a personal choice.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 09:37 PM
1

That I hope is what is changing, will continue to change over the coming years: men are not the disposable gender, women can not expect men to protect them, certainly not strangers outside the first responder industry. It is not our job, duty, or obligation, and we have to keep repeating that to ourselves so that if a situation arises, we don't fall back to the old stereotypes and instincts. Like the men in this story. Absolutely tragic.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 08:45 PM
8

Even barring that, it's still a big fat ass. It mystifies me that anyone finds that in the least attractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/18 08:33 PM
3

I know, right? Which is one reason that I can in good conscience turn a deaf ear to the critics of MGTOW who say our discussions don't conform to their idea of GTOW. Really? In the face of the pervasive marketing and lobbying power of the wedding industry, you're going to complain about less than 4 score thousand dudes pointing out why marriage is a terrible deal for men? Pffft
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 07:02 PM
3

Yeah, but that's entirely your decision. I mean, if you just want to take potshots, get a throwaway account. Take your shot, and then walk away from it. Engaging in any sort of reasoned argument is completely and utterly pointless imo.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:54 PM
5

It's a 72 billion USD a year industry in the U.S.. https://blog.marketresearch.com/the-wedding-industry-in-2017-and-beyond To put that number in perspective: It's about 3.5 times higher than budget for Nasa, at about 20 billion: https://www.thebalance.com/nasa-budget-current-funding-and-history-3306321 Over 5 times the gross ticket sales for movies in the U.S.: https://www.the-numbers.com/market/ Also 5 times bigger than NFL annual revenue: https://www.statista.com/statistics/193457/total-league…
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:51 PM
4

Jesus, dude, Twitter is cancer. It's your time, but in the unsolicited advice department, I'm offering that you find a better social media outlet.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:30 PM
6

LOL. Nice: "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you". So putting that line in the quiver.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:17 PM
18

The truth hurts, but despite the pain, one is always ultimately better off for acknowledging it and planning accordingly than clinging to a comfortable lie.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 06:14 PM
4

Your question contains the answer to itself.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 04:59 PM
4

Heh. a = v2 /r for circular motion where a is the acceleration, v is the velocity, and r is the radius of the wheel. A typical human skull is about 15 cm in lateral separation. That makes for a 7.5cm radius, or 0.075m. A mind "racing" is oftentimes described as "going a mile a minute". Thus, the hamster is running at 60 mph, or 26.8 m/sec. Plugging in these values gives an acceleration of 9576 m/sec2, or 977 times greater than earth gravity. Jeez, no wonder these broads are dizzy...
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 04:13 PM
2

Agreed. I just put what you called "date and fuck on our terms" under the umbrella term "occasional romp", indicative of being just another hobby, easily put aside when it becomes annoying or more trouble than its worth.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 03:33 PM
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The anti-RP subs are very useful, particularly for MGTOW: I know I've learned of interesting subs here that have fallen off the front page through TBP, for instance. Just looking at the titles is usually sufficient, very little reason to tarry in such places imo. Their meticulous hate-reading of the manosphere community provides a valuable service as far as I'm concerned.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 03:26 PM
2

Yeah, won't help a grifter of either sex. While I acknowledge and am leery of their hostility, I actually feel sorry for the simps/betas of the world. They are trapped in an outdated mode of thinking, much to their detriment. Personally, I see no reason to make their lives worse than they already are. YMMV
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 03:20 PM
17

Yep, we're all in recovery, one day at a time.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 03:14 PM
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It's sad that many men can't resist the urge to endanger themselves to protect women. It is instinctual, so I understand the difficulty, but that just makes it all the sadder.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 01:49 PM
5

While you are right, I'm sure the opportunity to give a comeuppance was just too irresistible for the OP. Consider it closure, that he has indeed made it now, confirmed by a former rejecter becoming the rejectee. Nothing wrong with a little well-deserved payback.
/r/MGTOW09/11/18 01:22 PM
3

Why exactly would we help you do that? What's in it for us?
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 10:38 PM
0

Incels want women but can't get them. MGTOW don't want women, certainly not for much more than an occasional romp, and there are many MGTOW who don't want to risk even that. Incels are, by and large, failed tradcons. You have to make up your mind. You're a 30 y.o. man, do you want to be a tradcon or not. If yes, do the improvements you list and play the game. If not, do the improvements you list for you, and you alone.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 10:33 PM
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To the degree there is a "MGTOW dogma", I think that not getting married is the only non-negotiable "rule". I fail to see how one can claim to be GHOW if he is trapped in an asymmetric legal contract. Anything else pretty much boils down to a combination of risk tolerance and belief in fairy tales.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 10:24 PM
5

The only correct response.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 10:17 PM
12

If it takes a needle to make one "interesting" or have a "personality", then it's not one worth knowing.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 10:16 PM
2

Point taken, though we could quibble over the use of the word.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 09:43 PM
8

His last line was killer. The only thing that could have compared was when she pulled the single mother would have been: "Single mother? Oh, the single mother price is $900".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/18 09:37 PM
4

I doubt they were thinking about getting laid out of it, they weren't thinking at all which was the problem: they instinctively were willing to lay down their lives for women. They instinctively were willing to be disposable, because instinctively they value the women's lives more than their own. That is not an admirable trait.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 09:32 PM
8

If laying down your life for a woman doesn't indicate some sort of internalized idolization, I would like to know what would.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 09:21 PM
12

Yeah, otherwise known as simping, or embracing being the disposable gender.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 09:15 PM
1

The only viable way this metoo bandwagoning is going to stop is by aggressive legal action. Defamation lawsuits are exactly the way to go, as are libel and slander lawsuits. Show the evidence, let the court court decide, not the kangaroo court.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 09:12 PM
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The nerve is unreal: she wanted emotional support from you that adjusting to the life she is making now with the person she cucked you with is difficult. Yeaaaaah, let me get that box of tissues for her.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 09:08 PM
14

Excellent and well-done.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 09:02 PM
2

https://archive.is/FJTD8
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 08:23 PM
7

Not in the least; it's good to see the pussypass denied, as well as someone reaping what they sow.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/18 08:09 PM
21

"Think of the children!" which has been a cringey "argument" for a loooooong time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/18 08:09 PM
3

Well, sure, like I said, they are not our friends, they just aren't quite as big as enemies. However, for the issues that are priority for me, 2A rights and tax relief, they are nowhere near as bad as the dems who are diametrically opposed to both.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 06:21 PM
5

Hmm, not sure about that. SJWs, the reductio ad absurdum of the left, have never shown much respect for individual property rights, including income. They have a much more totalitarian streak than the right in the U.S., who still nod at least to liberty/libertarian thinking. Look at the history of the last hundred years: almost every substantial reduction in 2A rights happened under leftwing rulership, starting with FDR with NFA, LBJ with CGA, WJC with the PSRFUPA. Likewise for tax increases, al…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 05:28 PM
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It's important to remember that tradcons are not our loyal allies. They are enemies of our enemies, but that at best makes them fair-weather friends. They may not have the same vehement opposition to us as the soyboys, feminazis, and SJWs, but they want us on the plantation just as much. Perhaps moreso, since the mantra used by both sides, "think of the children", means someone has to pay for the 1.6 million bastards women choose to pop out every year. Both want you to pay directly, while the la…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 02:06 PM
1

While I don't find fault with your reasoning, I view the situation a bit differently. The marriage industry, over 50 billion USD annually, caters almost exclusively to women. Little boys don't grow up dreaming of their wedding, what they'll wear, and what jewelry they'll get. Beyond sex, women have little utility for men, generally negative utility. They participate in the labor force at a lower rate and, when they do, they work fewer hours. This is a liability since they also spend a great deal…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 01:44 PM
8

"She's just divorced raped my father". There's your answer. Why would anyone associate with such a person, let alone help them? Sure, the usual narrative is that sons should be subservient to their mothers, but why? In giving birth to you, she was just pursuing her hardwired biological imperative to breed. You owe her nothing, save to judge her fairly by her current actions. You "owe" your father the same. You say you live with your father, so that would imply that prior to employment he support…
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 01:27 PM
1

There wasn't a specific one, just posting in that sub was the reason.
/r/MGTOW08/11/18 12:52 PM
2

There will be. It's hard to believe, but there will come a day when you'll laugh at what you believed in your BP days. You'll try to bargain, perhaps even slip back to denial. However, once the veil has been lifted, it's really impossible to go back. Oh, sure, you could become a strident feminist, or SJW, or embrace being a simp. You could even argue against the RP or MGTOW vehemently, but in your heart you'll know. It's all part of the denial phase, but some things once seen can not be unseen.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 10:42 PM
1

My guess would be that you've been dating women still on the CC, not looking to "settle down" with a financially secure man. And in their minds, that's what they would be doing even if they wouldn't admit it to themselves, settling down as their biological clock clangs and their SMV does a nosedive. It may not be what you want to hear, but you've dodged a bullet. You haven't been trapped, and you've learned their nature before it's too late. You AREN'T paying for some thugspawn, you don't have t…
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 10:31 PM
2

Heh. Present company excepted, of course.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 10:04 PM
1

I'm pretty sure it isn't "prohibited". I actually wrote the reddit admins about it when it happened to me, asking for clarification not action, but never got a response back from them. This was a couple of months ago, so I'm guessing they don't care either way. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 09:47 PM
1

Well, I'm just going by number of subs there, and there were far more by men than women among the newest on the first page. No idea on the impetus, I was just surprised by the number of men doing it.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 09:35 PM
5

No need to make a big deal of these sorts of interactions. Just say "thanks" and go about your day if a compliment or just laugh if it's some kind of disparaging remark. It sounds as if the fear of them getting into your head is getting into your head. Cultivate indifference and it will grow on its own.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 09:31 PM
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That is a high probability outcome. The 1.6 million bastards born every year have to come from somewhere, and it looks like the topic of this post is primed to do her part.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 09:24 PM
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LOL. Ahead of the curve, since I stopped ten years ago. It wasn't because of metoo, obviously, rather getting tagged with additional work when they decide to breed. It had happened to me twice in my career at that point, so I wasn't going to walk into a situation with a new job where it was very likely to happen again within 2-3 years.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 09:13 PM
2

I wasn't familiar with that comm. There seem to be a great many more "men" asking for ratings than women. Pretty pathetic IMO.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 09:11 PM
2

Might want to take a few deep breaths and try again.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 08:55 PM
1

LOL. At least you got a message that you were banned. I didn't know I was banned until I tried posting there and just kept getting the useful message "Something went wrong". Contacted the admins and, eventually, found out that I had been banned for participating in The_Donald since they consider it a "hate reddit". At that time, I don't think I had posted there for over a year, but couldn't swear by it. Suffice it to say, it certainly wasn't one of my mainstays. The mod said he would lift the ba…
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 07:43 PM
3

I wonder: will there be a "phase transition" where the normal expectations for men radically change in a relatively short time? I doubt it, since the MSM is still promoting "where have all the good men gone", the mythical wage gap while ignoring the very real earnings gap, and pointing out that men are not participating in the labor force as much as they did. This last irks me, as the graphs and source material they use clearly shows that women are still under-working compared to men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 06:46 PM
2

She will, at the latest when her kid becomes too old to cuddle and she starts contemplating getting cats. I hope she doesn't; one less male victim. However, the odds are against this happy ending
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 05:15 PM
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It may be misplaced optimism on my part, but I think more and more men are realizing that they deserve respect, and don't have to get married because "it's what you're suppose to do/it's what being an adult means". Hence, being a backup plan does not have the appeal to them it once did. Few of these men even know the term MGTOW, fewer still would identify as one. However, that does not mean that the tenets of MGTOW are not being implemented. It's extremely difficult to argue against the cataclys…
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 05:10 PM
1

I encourage explicit rules made up front like this: any man who signs up even knowing this explicitly absolutely deserves what he gets. When the rules change after the contract is the problem.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 04:42 PM
2

That has been the case for at least fifteen years, medaling in the victim olympics. Hell, even had that last presidential election, with a candidate outrageously claiming women suffer more in wartime because it's their husbands/fathers/brothers dying.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 04:33 PM
6

Oh, there is someone out there for her: BP beta white knight, looking to rescue her but not looking for the inevitable divorce rape. Make no mistake, it will happen, the BPD alone will make sure of that even ignoring all the other red flags. It's a hard truth, but she's at least as broken as any incel, just on the other side of the spectrum. The difference is, she almost certainly will land a fish, gut it, and toss the bones aside.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 04:29 PM
1

Have you posted one? How many hits, and what types? i.e percent seeming white knight betas, PnDs, trolls, etc
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/11/18 02:19 PM
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Gain as much power as you can, change whatever laws you want, but if you ride the cock carousel I'm going to think you're a slut as will most men and many women. Wipe away those tears, deary, that's just the way it is, an example of choices having consequences. Get use to it, men have been dealing with it for a loooong time, even for choices they don't make. "Friend Zone" I blame on the men; you may not have a choice in being put there, but you do choose to remain. Ghost them, it solves the prob…
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 02:12 PM
2

Because 80% of the time, women end them. https://www.divorcesource.com/blog/why-women-file-80-percent-of-divorces/ Imagine ten weddings (yes, I know it's sad, but just imagine it). Ten men and ten women making ten marriages. 5 of those marriages will end in divorce, initiated by the woman in 4 and by the man for 1. While, yes, men do initiate divorce sometimes, it's overwhelmingly (by 400%) done by the woman. So, who as a sex is responsible for the failure of marriage as an institution?
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 01:48 PM
2

Quite possibly the organic tendency to want attention, participate, and change.
/r/MGTOW07/11/18 12:27 PM
2

And you care why? However, let's take as true the premise that the OP is offering, that the only reason any man would GHOW is because he's ugly and can't get pussy. Given that many MGTOW are divorced, this is prima facie incorrect, but let's take it as a given. What would you have such men do, who can't get pussy? Cry and act out like Incels, or just throw in the towel and pursue other things?
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 10:49 PM
9

A short is the only play with such weak fundamentals.
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 06:26 PM
10

Just another example of women trying to define what makes a <adjective> man. Yawn. As MGTOW, we care for their opinions on the matter about as much as eagles care for the views of antelope on flying. After all, a man needs a woman like a bicycle needs a fish.
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 06:21 PM
4

Wise policies.
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 06:15 PM
2

It's also paved with unbought stuffed dogs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/18 06:14 PM
66

I've noticed this: apparently, they think that GYOW means we shouldn't talk to each other, nor should we talk about the impetus for GYOW. Curious beliefs, to be sure.
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 04:48 PM
9

The nerve of these women never fails to astound.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/11/18 04:36 PM
19

I get a kick out of how this is framed: men aren't participating in the labor force enough, yet their very graphs show that men are working at a rate ~10% higher than women. That's the problem, women need to work more.
/r/MGTOW06/11/18 01:40 PM
7

No, it's just quarantined. I just checked, it's still there: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/ Lost a great deal of respect for them when the mods started acting like simps, begging the reddit admins to lift the quarantine.
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 10:10 PM
2

Well, they only get "punished" if they sign up for a mess like this. It's a poor choice, but still their choice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/11/18 09:46 PM
1

Does anyone have any sort of data (number of hits, etc) that these sort of profiles actually get? I mean, no job, preggers, high school diploma sounds completely unappealing. I know the general belief that despite red flags like this, they still get a ton of hits, but is there any evidence of this even along the lines of a known preggo and seen her message count?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/11/18 09:43 PM
3

Well done! Women need to learn that men are not their PRN bodyguards. A great number of men as well.
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 05:57 PM
19

LOL. So, let me see if I understand this correctly: Punching people IRL that feminists say are "nazis", no matter how they self-identify, is perfectly fine, but killing NPCs in a game is triggering?
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 05:52 PM
2

Pure speculation, but it might break many bots and/or scraping scripts. That might not necessarily be a bad thing.
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 04:49 PM
3

Point-by-point: 1.Compassion And Empathy Most people — especially men — don’t ask for emotional help when they need it, so it’s up to women to step in when they feel they are needed. Perfect example of women butting in where they aren't welcome as well as femsplaining. Inevitably, though, their "ability to relate" will lead to a discussion about something that happened to them that was worse. 2.Gut Feelings LOL. Women't intuition is about as reliable as men's intuition: selection bias when they …
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 04:39 PM
4

Men still participate at a higher rate than women in every single age category, including the 25-34 they chastise: https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm Every.single.one. The question should be, why aren't women as a group working more?
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 01:56 PM
1

One thing I found fascinating was the rate of men 25-34 who aren't working and aren't looking who are retired. This jumped from 1.4 to 5 percent between 1996 and 2016. That's more than a tripling, though granted they're still small numbers. Of those, I would be curious to know what percentage are married. That MAY be somewhat attributable to the MGTOW effect, if not by that name certainly the decreasing marriage participation rate. If you are that age and don't get baby-trapped or sign up to be …
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 01:20 PM
1

This is what equality looks like: women have to step up and fill these roles which they still aren't doing by and large. https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm Note that men still have a higher participation rate in almost every single age bracket, and many by a wide margin. The only exception is the 16-19, where men are at 30.8 and women at 32.7. Every single one after that, men have a higher rate. I would say that, in general, men can be happier at a lower e…
/r/MGTOW05/11/18 12:52 PM
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MGTOW or no, it's important for everyone. Despite the attempts to nerf it, the world is a dangerous place.
/r/MGTOW04/11/18 12:19 AM
5

I guess this is what happens when cats just don't cut it anymore...
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 09:31 PM
2

Hmmm, wonder what the male-equivalent of a unicorn would be? Mythical beast, known for its rarity and specialness. Minotaur, maybe?
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 08:46 PM
4

LOL. Yeah, nothing happens until it does.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 07:51 PM
2

Well sure, even the most BP simp doesn't dream of a wedding since childhood. It is entirely the female's fantasy, even called "her day".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 07:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure he's fucked under current laws and court practices. The courts only care about the children, the hapless cuck be damned. I do wonder, though, if he could sue the actual father for child support. I doubt it, but it might be worth a visit to a lawyer. I also wonder if there's any sort of civil action he could do against his wife, for false representation. I'm sure that the OP is on the hook for child support, no matter what, but he might be able to recoup some of that by legal acti…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 07:40 PM
2

Perhaps. It could be a sop to her since her bioclock is clanging and, bonus, a reason to go bareback. It would be hysterical if he had a vasectomy and knows she can't get preggers from him. However, it's not completely unreasonable that he is legitimately worried about losing half his pension in a divorce while simultaneously wanting kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 07:23 PM
1

I guess I am not expressing myself adequately. I am certainly not advocating a "neutral position" of any sort. What I'm saying is that a lifetime of bluepill conditioning takes its toll, and can manifest itself if one is not ever vigilant.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 07:15 PM
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Well, IF we are to believe her account, I don't think her bf would necessarily mind paying "fair and equitable" child support. That's rather insane to me, but hey, that's his choice. He just doesn't want to lose his pension or support her ass if she leaves a second time. It does naively assume that "fair and equitable" child support actually exists, and that it wouldn't de facto be supporting her as well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 07:06 PM
3

Oh, absolutely. I don't mean the 50% of marriages that don't end in divorce are disney. However, the numbers I present are concrete, while it's difficult to get reliable numbers on unhappy-but-still-intact marriages.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 06:44 PM
1

Then you can throw off a lifetime of conditioning better than most. Even though I can reason the correct course of action, there is still part of me that "thinks" I should simp in some fashion. This can be subtle as well. So far, and I believe for the rest of my life, I've managed this condition. I believe that most MGTOW are more similar to me, and hence the struggles documented here, but I could be wrong about that.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 06:41 PM
5

Oh, I agree, wanting to have children with her is definitely foolish on his part. However, at least he has the sense not to marry her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 06:36 PM
4

50% failure rate is across all marriages. If you start breaking it down by different variables (income, education, age, etc), you can get higher or lower than that. Edit to add: Here is the most comprehensive statistics I can find: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1-JVVCiuXBZEpU6_5HsZLYyblVClpEW0ucYBafkNbaYI/pubhtml# This breaks it down by occupation and median income level. Of course, can't get an average directly from this, since the number of people in each occupation isn't given. A…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 06:17 PM
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If I read correctly, she presents her bf as wanting kids but not marriage. So, IF that is true, then an accident would play right into his hands oddly enough. Unless, and this is pure game-theory speculation, she threatens to get an abortion unless he marries her or goes all crying-jag that she doesn't want to be a single mother. The first would be a game of chicken, and the second would be the usual female strategy of making the man's life miserable until she gets what she wants. That would be …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 06:13 PM
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Heh. Yeah, that's why there are 50,000 divorces per 100,000 marriages, almost all of which had expressions of love and lifelong commitment in the ceremony.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 06:08 PM
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I would be surprised if she isn't trying to do this already. If things don't resolve themselves in her favor soon, like in a few months, she's going to be a real predator in the SMP.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 05:56 PM
6

Sad but true. Some men just refuse to learn from their own experiences, rather Boxer-like proclaim "I will work harder!".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 05:53 PM
1

We'll always be broken, since we were born and brought up with the blue pill. It's still in our systems, and we must fight it every day. The best we can do is recognize it and combat it, like a recovering alkie or junkie, one day at a time.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 04:48 PM
5

You can paint any fantasy creature you want. The 5-6 was a good choice, as cute enough one can still have the gallant reaction with little/no effort but not so gorgeous that she'd be hit on constantly. I'm not sure about the virgin part: that almost certainly will have her wondering what she missed out, and more likely to find out. Let's even take away the self-harm scars and make her the perfect unicorn up until this moment. That's the key, right there. Hypergamy will ALWAYS kick in. All it tak…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 03:59 PM
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The thing is, if you have a wedding, you won't be able to get the usual types to officiate in almost all states (priest, minister, justice, etc). They aren't allowed to marry people without the marriage license. Secondly, any person who acts as the official, MC, or whatever term you wish to call it may be breaking the law by marrying people without being licensed to do so. It's very possible that even if they avoid the word "marriage" and variations it could be deemed equivalent. Lastly, in stat…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 12:55 PM
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To be fair, it is "AskWomenOver30". They don't give two shits about the man, at all, and they are there just to help the women. Might as well be RedPillWomen in that regard, though they would bridle at that notion as they will try to paint the man as either in the wrong or it's for "his own good". Heh. At least RPW are more overtly out for themselves.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/18 12:50 PM
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SMH. Cringe beta simp move. Would have expected better but, perhaps, he was worried about the optics. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 11:53 AM
5

Tough call. It sounds like you don't know this guy, so there's no telling how he might react. In the modern day twist, you could be the bad guy for telling him this stuff. "Slut shaming" is being made into a thing that's bad for someone to do; gotta protect the fee fees of the poor little sluts. If you do it, might want to consider using an alt account. The very old term for it was a "French letter": an anonymous note informing a person of a family member's or romantic interest's past indiscreti…
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 11:46 AM
3

Well done. This needs an archive: https://archive.fo/uWvvX
/r/MGTOW02/11/18 11:21 AM
2

These dating profiles just seem more and more cringe to me. It's like high schoolers telling their life's goals: I want to be a rock star, POTUS, and an astronaut, while not playing an instrument, pulling a 1.5 GPA, and being a fat fuck. Yeah, you want to be a great many things, but you don't want to do anything to get there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 09:05 PM
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Your explanation is sound, and almost certainly the predominant cause. However, I think that men as a group are being more careful to some degree. Tales of baby trapping, divorce rape, cucking, sperm-jacking, etc have spread over this time period, thanks in some small part due to MGTOW. Now, of course, that doesn't mean that many men are MGTOW, and most would probably denounce it since it doesn't conform to the societal ideal of what a man should do with his time. That does not mean however that…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 08:42 PM
2

IMO, the only political ideology that fits with MGTOW is Libertarianism. Minimum government, maximum liberty Agreed. In the current environment, though, one must admit that the "alt right", a vague term that has become pejorative and being made into a synonym for Nazis, are much more amusing and act as a needed counter-weight to the left-wing/SJW/feminazi lunacy that is being pushed. Hell, Sargon of Akaad and Dave Cullins are painted as Alt-Right, which is insane. It's pretty much come to mean "…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 05:26 PM
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I had new windows and siding put on my house about two years ago. The workers (all men, of course) were finished, and I was doing a walkthrough inspection. I thought I had finished, so I turned to the group and said "Gentlemen, I want to thank you for your fine work, it's very much appreciated". Jesus, the way their faces lit up, you'd think I just offered them a free weekend of hookers and blow. We talked for a while about the products installed, and it was during that time that I noticed a sli…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 04:52 PM
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I hope these sort of things are being archived and saved for easy searches. This will help hapless men ten years from now, when she's bemoaning "Where have all the good men gone?", the answer "Check your ledger" can be given. Or, even more poignantly, "not in your ledger".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/11/18 03:35 PM
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It's continuing therapy, as a way to remind that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. A red pill a day, etc. Otherwise, there's a tendency to slip back to the bargaining phase or even denial. After all, what we're attempting goes against primal biology as well as societal conditioning. However, just as men can learn not to be violent despite their nature, they so too can learn to not want to pursue women. Seeing the copious examples here helps immensely, particularly those new to the journey. Ther…
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 03:02 PM
1

How's that working out for you? Feel better? Feel righteous and vindicated? Have you put us in our place? I hope so. We're only here to help men, some of whom are broken, find themselves and a way to move forward happily.
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 01:23 PM
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Heh. Yeah, I love how that's a "job", a woman fulfilling her biological urges.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/10/18 09:53 PM
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Citations needed.
/r/MGTOW31/10/18 07:56 PM
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And what happens when his career is over? Hes going to have to come back to me Yeah, Mick Jagger's high school sweetheart is still thinking "any day now...".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 07:12 PM
6

Unappreciated labor, vilified for succeeding, taxed even moreso. What exactly is the incentive today? Why shouldn't (on average) men shrug and go Galt-lite?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 06:17 PM
1

I know, right? Perhaps starting with a lower goal will help: every man above average (top 50%) and then work from there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 06:14 PM
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Because it's the moth that gets burned.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 05:59 PM
5

As long as purposefully irresponsible behavior is rewarded, it'll continue to occur.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 05:52 PM
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We want income because we want to be able to get the attention of others. LMAO. That is SUCH a chick thing to say. After fulfilling basic needs and "reasonable" wants, I think it's fair to say that many men want income so that they won't need income at a later date. It's called "savings", "retirement", and "financial independence". However, based on their low labor participation rate, I can't blame the ladies too much for not understanding this: they don't work as much, so they don't understand …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 03:33 PM
5

It's the never-ending shit test: no matter what you do, or don't do, it's wrong.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 12:42 PM
1

So, she wants him to be miserable because of his love for her: jealous of her...let's be fancy and say "dalliances"...outside their relationship, to be not ok with it but still be head over heels for her despite it. In other words, she wants an unhappy and jealous cuck, not a cuck who gets off on it. Damn, that's up there in terms of cruelty and narcissism.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 12:35 PM
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It's interesting that men still have a higher labor participation rate than women in every single age bracket, yet the decline in the rate for young men is a "problem" that needs to be "solved". It's seen as bad for some reason that the 20-something men participate at a rate exceeding women by "only" 5% to 14%. If one wants to increase productivity and the lagging female participation rate, perhaps a tax on social media would be more effective.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/10/18 11:36 AM
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Except women are not in more danger than men, they just feel that way. For instance, look at the world-wide homicide rate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender Men are murdered at almost 4x the rate of women. Or, all violent crime in the U.S.: https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/ Men are still victims more often than women.
/r/MensRights29/10/18 08:56 PM
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Hmmm, perhaps can get a sitcom out it: "This Old Thot" or "Thot Time".
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/18 08:15 PM
3

If being a "DIY God" is an explicit requirement, I can only imagine the shithole she lives in. Or, perhaps, she wants to remodel on the cheap in which case taking it out in trade might not be a bad deal depending on how extensive her plans.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/18 08:12 PM
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LOL. Your concern is noted and will be taken under advisement.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 07:01 PM
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Well, I have a tendency to agree with you, but men going their own way will talk about what they want to talk about. Generally speaking, I find the best approach to not being interested in something is to not pay attention to it, but YMMV. Oddly enough, even though I have no interest in TheBluePill, I do find it useful to at least visit that comm: they hate-read TRP and MGTOW, so I've found interesting things on these sites, particularly MGTOW, that had already fallen off the first page by scann…
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 06:40 PM
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Perhaps I'm misreading, but I don't see where it says she has kids, rather that she wants kids. At 37. And she gets "hundreds of messages". At a size 14. SMH. The thirst of men is epidemic.
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 05:52 PM
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She was never yours, it was just your turn. It's over, you certainly can't expect her to show any consideration for your feelings now, nor is it reasonable to expect a woman to keep her word. The expression "it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind" is still seen as a reason for them to do pretty much anything that their fancy leads them to do. Some might advise that you fuck one of her friends/people she had a bad history with by way of payback. I would strongly advise against it, as that …
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 04:36 PM
2

Because women are a hobby that many men going their own way still pursue. While TRP might have valuable tools to assist in that hobby, they make it more of an obsession which is off-putting. It's the difference between someone who likes Star Trek and someone who makes their own costumes, goes to conventions, and says "we" when referring to the federation. There's also how the TRP admins have been acting and reacting to their conflict with Reddit admins: like supplicating betas, trying to insert …
/r/MGTOW29/10/18 03:16 PM
1

That's an excellent observation and a great term "the secondary SMP". Single moms are like a derivatives market: low investment can yield high returns (easy sex with little effort) but, conversely, it can also financially wreck you if it goes south (baby-trapped or the slippery slope of cascading bailout). No amount of collateral could cover that margin call.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/18 11:28 AM
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At a certain point, the practice of women/their families paying dowries will return to the west. I just don't see any other reason a man would sign a lopsided contract where a "prize" like this is what he gets out of it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/10/18 11:15 AM
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Those days are gone, leaving risk and responsibility with no reward. Quite the contrary, actually, risk and responsibility now garners ridicule. There's no point anymore to taking either.
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 09:04 PM
1

LOL. Yeah, even if not universally followed by men, it was still enforced by the male power structure. Likely, it would be as well today.
/r/MGTOW27/10/18 09:02 PM
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Men are treated as disposable. Look at war casualties, look at on-the-job casualties, look at divorce statistics. Why do you think when SHTF, the expression "Women and children first" is still unironically said? Why? Because they let it happen, they buy the narrative that they should put themselves in dangerous situations or sacrifice themselves for others out of some imposed sense of duty. Whether that's charging a machine gun nest, working a fishing boat, or asking a woman to marry them, the r…
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 09:41 PM
2

Well, sure, bargains can be struck for the benefit of both parties.
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 03:39 PM
3

Sure, there could be incentives, but they don't exist for single men today. In fact, due to progressive taxation which is a wealth transfer writ large from single men to women, there is a disincentive to earn more since you keep a smaller and smaller percentage of additional income. Hence, the ideal state under the current system is to earn just enough to take care of your own needs while minimizing the imposed obligation to "society". Which is why men are semi-dropping out, going Galt-lite. Mal…
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 02:38 PM
2

And? These are the incentives given, this is what is in our best interests. I doubt there will be any appreciable decline but, if there is, such a mindset will become even more important.
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 01:56 PM
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Natural selection has been eliminated for actual survival qualities.
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 01:00 PM
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Individuals are only responsible for themselves, this is the only ethos that makes sense, certainly in the current environment. Men can thrive even moreso than under the "implied responsibilty" old imperative if they truly adopt this mindset.
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 12:53 PM
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We're expendable. We're expendable in wars, we're expendable in dangerous jobs, we're expendable in the court system. This is "justified" by continuously painting the narrative that we're garbage to begin with. This is liberating, actually. Not that it gives a man license to do heinous things, but rather there is zero impetus, negative incentive really, to do anything for women. When it suits them, they will put you in one meat grinder or another, so you have no obligation to defer to them in an…
/r/MGTOW26/10/18 11:32 AM
6

You only need read the first six words of the title to see the mistake.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 09:02 PM
3

I'm not sure why anyone uses their search engine anymore or, god forbid, "google news".
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 08:34 PM
3

That quote is it in a nutshell. Why any man who claims to be any variety of Red Pill would think marriage is viable is baffling.
/r/MGTOW25/10/18 07:37 PM
2

No, there isn't.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 07:20 PM
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Yeah, curious that she knows she doesn't qualify if she doesn't even want alimony. The things I don't want, I know very little or nothing about the qualifications. For instance, I don't want to be a CPA. I have no idea if I qualify.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 07:19 PM
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LOL. Exactly. He didn't make the mess, but it's his job to clean it up. The thing is, at least a literal janitor gets paid for his efforts. I am mystified what compensation a beta cuck actually gets. I suppose faux female attention, but that is a currency that strikes me as more and more undesirable, like Tulips or confederate money.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 06:22 PM
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It's funny how many single moms are going to school, to get marginally useful in the job market. Let me get this straight: you're not even remotely finished becoming an adult (done with school, on career path) and you thought it was perfectly fine to fulfill your biological urges by having a kid?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 03:42 PM
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I like that terminology, "the cleanup guy". Or, perhaps, "janitor". It fits perfectly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 03:38 PM
3

That would be easier: probably killed instantly or, at worst, a few days of agonizing pain until released by death. This scenario, if one is dumb enough to walk into it and stay, means years or decades of soul-crushing misery.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 03:34 PM
5

I know it's common, but it still floors me: you're 8 months pregnant, you decided to have and keep the baby to fulfill your biological urges, your life is about to be irrevocably changed for the next ~2 decades, and now is the time to man-shop?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 03:30 PM
0

LOL. Primitive screwheads prone to exaggeration and bad at sculpture. And really, for all we know, that could have been the era version of a landwhale meme.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 02:56 PM
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LOL. Yeah, no.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 01:38 PM
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I can't claim to know its history, I just see what it's like now. And now, it's using age-old feminine manipulation techniques on self-proclaimed RP alphas. The more vulgar term would be topping from the bottom, but same basic idea. Even easier for them now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 01:29 PM
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You have a point, but I see it differently. I view RPW as a chameleon training academy, finding techniques and strategies for landing a RP alpha. They have the "cheat code" for the dudes who think that by lifting and maintaining frame they are impervious to the vagaries of present day society. Easy pickings for a woman who knows RP theory, particularly with a henhouse like RPW giving her tips. And the reason people there aren't telling her the obvious RP answer (CC rider) is that they'll get ban…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 01:14 PM
3

I agree, which makes the text placement inappropriate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/18 12:32 PM
1

But a liberal metalhead? In my experience, they're either apolitical or libertarian.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 09:52 PM
1

True enough, but there seems to be no shortage of men not in their right minds. Shit, 2.5 million of them get married every year in the U.S., and that's just the real loopy ones. Plenty of more difficult to quantify ones looking.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 09:50 PM
17

It's been relatively recently that big fat asses on women became desirable to a large segment of men. Curious.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 09:39 PM
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Well, I don't get the impression that he's "upping the price of his commitment". That would be the case if he made demands that she now perform these acts with him, which I don't think she claims he does. Rather, he is embarrassed and ashamed that he got so thoroughly ripped off by her, that she wouldn't do these things for him to please him like (she claims) she only did to please Mark, though the tape tells a different story. Some things, once seen can not be unseen. He has video proof that sh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 08:44 PM
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Simply put, her husband has video proof he is getting a very bad deal. He put in way more effort, married her, was a "sweet guy" (or similar thing she said), and is getting nowhere near the value for this work than Mark did for being an asshole.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 08:28 PM
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It's like anything else: paying up front (in this case with a ring) removes any impetus to provide good service in order to keep you as a customer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 08:17 PM
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RPW are niche predators, targeting specialized prey. They have the cheat code for the deluded fools who think lifting and maintaining frame is going to make them immune.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 07:36 PM
5

Mods being Napoleonic pricks with delusions of competence is a tale as old as the internet.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 07:20 PM
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That's why tradcucks, or the "redpill on hard mode" set, are delusional: it's not a question of if, it's a question of when.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 07:16 PM
2

Of course, all part of the infiltration phase. Eventually, TRP will be a watered-down version of MRA, but only with issues backed by feminists. Once your primary goal/concern is women, the rest just follows.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 07:02 PM
7

Same here. Banned at RPW for taking offense at helping a woman do damage control after cucking her husband. Banned at TRP because, apparently, acting like a supplicating beta when dealing with reddit admins is playing 4D chess. They didn't like the "...by inserting enough nuance coins, TRP will negotiate its way out of Reddit's Quarantine Zone." implied analogy.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 06:42 PM
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It amazes me that they're amazed at his reaction. She wasn't the person he thought she was and wants out. I have to wonder, what would have been her reaction if he had hidden a criminal record from her or similar thing from his past. Same damn thing, as it is pertinent information in knowing who a person really is rather than the facade presented. That's why the past matters, no matter what the "born again virgins" say.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/10/18 06:14 PM
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"MGTOW on Reddit", written on bathroom walls and left as small notes in grocery stores, department stores, etc. That's about the extent of promotion. Men looking for an answer will find it and embrace it, those who aren't won't. Arguing in other subs is rather pointless, as you'll ultimately be banned by the cucks, tradcons, or beasts. After all, the fundamental tenet of MGTOW, that marriage is an insanely bad deal for men, is rather irrefutable from a risk assessment standpoint. 40,000 incident…
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 11:42 AM
6

Haters gonna hate. Their delusion is not my problem. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW24/10/18 11:04 AM
9

If it's not reported, it's not sexual assault, it's a woman feeling oogy about something in her past when she contemplates her history while taking a survey. This tells me that more like one in 40 women are sexually assaulted (1 in 5 times 1 in 8), or about 2.5%. Lifetime, that sounds about right, and conforms to the rates of other assaults.
/r/MGTOW23/10/18 02:53 PM
1

It's ones like these who pose the greatest risk as many men would put up with much more nonsense because of how she looks. Assuming the baby-daddy is completely out of the picture, this is the type who'd want some sap to legally adopt her kid because "God wants us to be a family". Any reader who can't fill in the rest of the story well, they're either hopelessly naive or haven't been paying attention.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/10/18 07:25 PM
2

At the very least, one should be ineligible to vote if receiving any sort of government assistance: if you can't handle your own finances, why in the world should you have a say in mine (via government spending/taxation)?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/10/18 06:55 PM
1

One could hope, but the attitude is far too prevalent: women who make bad choices, such as having kids they can't afford, feel entitled to help. They're damsels in distress with the trump card Think of the children. Not my kids, not my problem.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/10/18 06:53 PM
12

I would definitely advise against pursuing a medical career at this time. The effort/reward ratio is terrible and is only going to get worse as time goes on. You've already established that you can start and run a successful business; you don't need to become a doctor and it certainly sounds like you don't want to become a doctor. You owe it to no one to pursue a path you don't want.
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 08:44 PM
3

After a time, it's just wallpaper. One needs to be reminded it is there, but it doesn't draw much in the way of a reaction. We're all at various states of recovery from BP so we must be vigilant never to forget, particularly when so many are adamant that, despite the evidence, we are wrong. Personally, I pretty much just laugh at the outrages posted. Yes, some are horrific, but what are you going to do? It's the way of the world, it's never going to change, and one can either rage or chuckle at …
/r/MGTOW19/10/18 08:31 PM
3

Centuries of inbreeding have reduced the royal family to idiots. It still mystifies me why a Prince with access to so much money and fame would settle so low.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/10/18 02:44 PM
44

If you put links documenting your assertions, this is sidebar material. Well done.
/r/MGTOW18/10/18 12:51 PM
1

LOL. More NPTs.
/r/MGTOW18/10/18 12:36 PM
2

I saw a graph the other day, but I can't find it now. It had the percent of single mothers as a function of time. The west has been rising for the last few decades, with some European countries knocking on 60% now. Russia, or the other hand, maxed out in the 90s and has been declining ever since. While that's only one metric, Russia is the only one on what is generally considered the right track. There has been at least three Europes for centuries: West, Mittel, and East. The illusion of unity u…
/r/MGTOW18/10/18 11:36 AM
2

Well, I don't agree with that. I do think Roosevelt essentially trolled Japan into attacking the U.S., with the inevitable result of its ally declaring war. At that point, there was no choice, the U.S. got entangled in yet another case of Europe being Europe. Hundreds of thousands of dead Americans with no benefit. Quite the contrary: 70 years and counting of playing World Police, completely ignoring the wisdom of Washington's farewell address.
/r/MGTOW18/10/18 11:31 AM
4

Yes, I know. I voted for the first time in my life in 2016, for Trump. The God-Emperor is powerful, but not omnipotent.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 07:28 PM
2

LOL. Ok.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 07:17 PM
2

Evidence obtained illegally by the state to prosecute a criminal wouldn't be admissible, absolutely. I'm not entirely sure that applies to individuals, particularly if they are defending themselves against criminal charges. Probably.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 07:09 PM
3

LOL. Doesn't work that way.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 07:07 PM
1

Not sure about that: if you're answering an inquiry from HR, the legality isn't really an issue. In a court, maybe. It also opens up the possibility of having leverage, even if illegal and unusable as evidence. I think the existence of a recording, legal or no, might dissuade a false accuser from pursuing the matter. It's a moot question, though, in the vast majority of states: you have the right to record any conversation you are party to without informing any other parties.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 07:06 PM
5

Banned what? The POTUS can't ban areas of study, no matter how absurd they may be.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 06:45 PM
2

There are only a few states that require two-party consent: http://www.diligentiagroup.com/legal-investigation/private-investigator-tips-is-it-legal-to-record-a-phone-call-or-conversation/ This opens the question: would you rather be guilty of an illegal recording, or a metoo rap?
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 06:44 PM
8

That's perfectly understandable. At the very least, the East is currently serving the role of "Beacon of Sanity" to the West. My hope for the future is that eventually the U.S. leaves NATO and re-forges a better version of the alliance that defeated Germany in WW2: U.S., U.K., Russia, Poland, Hungary etc. Lots of bad blood with Russia, of course, so I'm not sure this is feasible. Of course, there was lots of bad blood with Germany as well...
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 05:58 PM
8

You make a valid point, but my post was meant to be sardonic. It promotes bugs as features: the buyer gets the responsibilities without having to deal with the sex or feeling of being special.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/10/18 04:59 PM
3

Carry a marker at all times. Write "MGTOW on Reddit" in bathrooms, bus stops, etc. Write it small, not in your face: it will only help those actively looking for answers, so it needn't be big just there.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 04:29 PM
29

Oddly enough, the last best hope for the West lies in the East.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 04:06 PM
26

They should call it a "turnkey family": all the responsibilities without any of the sex or feelings of being the most important person in her life.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/10/18 03:25 PM
28

The simple truth is there are plenty of good men, they just don't want you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/10/18 02:57 PM
46

Even at that SMV, she still thinks she can shop. Notice that as per usual with these profiles, there is no mention of what she brings to the table other than a willingness to fuck.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/10/18 02:54 PM
8

Keep the voice recorder running on your phone at all times. Save the recordings: the only way to prove your innocence for a metoo rap is to have audio of the time in question.
/r/MGTOW17/10/18 12:42 PM
3

You know the answer: by their, and apparently, your criteria, you don't measure up. Good, bad, it's the way it is. Perhaps if you try putting niceness coins in, sex will come out./s
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 09:04 PM
9

I wonder how many are actually what would be called miners, down a mine shaft extracting ore.
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 08:34 PM
10

That's pretty much the Blue Pill program. It's very popular.
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 08:29 PM
3

If you are on welfare, which is certainly what UC sounds like, then you could never afford any of those things. You literally relied on the kindness of strangers, enforced by the government.
/r/MGTOW16/10/18 08:11 PM
9

You handled it perfectly. Well done, sir.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/10/18 10:07 PM
1

Like a brain-dead AOLer, she just wants to metoo. I still grin every time I hear or see "metoo", since it was an insult back in the 90s indicating mindless conformity and bandwagoning. I guess that's true today as well, just a bit more...specialized.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/10/18 05:36 PM
9

Single Moms are easy pickings, basically trapped at home. That's why they are so prevalent on social media. This is not a new phenomenon, they were among the first females to take to using the internet on a regular basis back in the mid 90s and early naughts. There's just a great many more of them now and, delusional, they think they have some sort of appeal/leverage. I suppose there is some truth to that, as there appears no shortage of BP simps ready to line up. Doesn't mean a non-monk MGTOW o…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/10/18 04:27 PM
7

Except the rate of false allegations is at least 40%: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653
/r/MGTOW15/10/18 04:02 PM
20

JFC. These people want to be treated like adults?
/r/MGTOW15/10/18 03:57 PM
11

As far as I'm concerned, I'm doing my part by not raping anyone. After that, meh, not my problem. False allegations, however, could potentially be my problem. Consequently, I care about that. And since I can put myself in the shoes of the falsely accused, my initial sympathy goes to them. Therefore, barring compelling physical evidence (video, audio, etc), my default position is to believe people who claim innocence.
/r/MGTOW14/10/18 03:07 PM
16

Even the old biddies are going bonkers.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 10:20 PM
23

At a certain point, the only escape is the sweet release of death.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 10:19 PM
52

Good choice. Social media only serves women, and the BP simps who fawn over them. If you're neither, you have no need for it.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 08:52 PM
13

The same reason you'd be surprised if your toaster expressed a romantic interest in you: you are just a tool, a utility, to her.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 08:35 PM
3

I welcome it. The hilarity that will ensue when the first woman is "egg jacked", her egg being used without her consent to make a two-female parents baby, will be glorious. Based on current "issues" (women paying gasp! 3% of alimony, etc), it will only be then that the reproductive rights of the non-incubating parent will be considered as well as their responsibility for a choice they did not make.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 08:27 PM
2

Absolutely. Marriage gives no additional right or privileges to the man, only responsibilities. For instance, presumption of paternity, possible alimony, etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 07:01 PM
8

Well, the last line I see is "I left because you're a bad friend'. That sounds like a happy ending awakening to me. Shrug.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 06:59 PM
0

Fat ass equals fat.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 06:49 PM
18

Yes, he was a simp, but it only took two iterations for him to learn. That's not too bad, given that so many men keep doing the same thing over and over and over again, hoping for a different result or, even worse, content with being a doormat and emotional tampon.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 06:43 PM
9

Whether friend, lover, or husband, a man is only ever the intermediate branch between the last one and the next for a woman.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 06:37 PM
281

I knew that was fake, because such a thing could never happen. /s
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 06:30 PM
3

One could flip it very readily: The caliber of women has declined greatly. Between accruing enormous debt and the explosion in the number of single mothers with bastard children, there are far more unsuitable women with baggage than women worth giving a shot. In other words, "marriageable" women are few and far between.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 03:57 PM
5

I found that second quote particularly amusing, given the rise of single moms who, by definition, have their hand out because they can't be responsible for fulfilling their biological urges.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 02:58 PM
12

Surprised she got denied the pussy pass; Germany is about as cucked as it gets. As is usual, this would not have been a story, or certainly a very differently slanted story, had it been a male flashing three women.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 01:19 PM
1

I'm familiar with the first one, not with the second. The interesting thing is that "russian meddling" has become a narrative largely because it is seen by the radical left (SJWs, democratic party, MSM, etc) as acting counter to the leftist agenda. Or in other words, if you disagree with their agenda, then you are a "russian bot". Absolutely delusional at best. Heh.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/10/18 12:14 PM
6

One can certainly see it in movies, such as the stunt casting done with the Ghostbusters reboot. That one was very curious, since it was never really seen as a "male movie", the SJWs made it about that. There's a similar thing at play in the various Star Wars sequels, where it seems to me that the former fans are being purposefully pissed on because they are predominantly males. That seems like a bad idea from a business perspective, and the declining box offices bears this out.
/r/MGTOW12/10/18 11:37 AM
8

Well, maybe it's just a single thousand.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 09:16 PM
16

Maybe "single" refers to number of thoughts....
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 08:59 PM
190

Step 1: infiltrate a male space Step 2: Exclude males from space Step 3: Former thriving space fails Step 4: Blame men Step 5: Go to Step 1
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 08:43 PM
2

Yeah, but how will she know and more importantly show she is a "good woman" without the likes? JFC, supposed MGTOWs are buying this crap. I can only imagine the reactions of normies.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 08:31 PM
0

Except to serve as a prop for her photoshoot which, oddly enough, got out to the public for what was supposedly a private personal grieving episode. And, consequently, people thinking so highly of her for her "commitment". Heh. Barnum underestimated.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 07:50 PM
3

It is sad, but he's a man and responsible for his choices. Hopefully, eventually, the same will apply to women.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 07:23 PM
4

It is very amusing that the trend seems to be that the ones showing the most skin have the most vehement preemptive reaction to sexual advances. Even more amusing here, for a post-wall single mom with double kids.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 06:56 PM
9

Good fortune on your journey, good sir.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 05:46 PM
11

He wouldn't take her bullshit and left her. Granted, it should have been sooner, but he maintained his self-respect and dignity better than many.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 03:05 PM
1

Another line, from a very old Daffy Duck cartoon of all things: "Cute? Yeah, cute like a stomach pump"
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 02:58 PM
3

Excellent reference and analogy. Once you see the ugliness, you can't unsee it.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 02:56 PM
60

Yeah, it's all part of the victim olympics: self-diagnosed "disorders" such as depression, BPD, PTSD, ADD, etc.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 02:54 PM
2

Yes, absolutely. It's rather amazing how prophetic that novel was, though ~30 years too early in name. Another work that is eerily, and incongruously, prophetic is "Demolition Man". Action schlock, but it "predicted" many things that seemed absurd at the time but which have come to pass in some form today. The "Verbal Morality Code" is one such example, where in the movie anyone who curses was fined. We see such things today in laws mandating goofy made-up gender pronouns, or ever ethereal defin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/10/18 01:23 PM
1

Thanks. As the saying goes, many supposed MGTOW are one BJ away from going back to the plantation. Or, evidently, one graveside photoshoot. I mean, really: she was going to have her "special day", and the death of her fiance was ultimately just an inconvenience that wasn't going to stop her. It is amazing that anyone sees this as other than the narcissistic attention-seeking that is so often documented here. I guess too many still hold out hopeless vain hope that there are unicorns in the world …
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 12:58 PM
4

That's not true: there's plenty of water on other celestial bodies, there's even some water on the moon. https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a14555/water-worlds-in-our-solar-system/ Venus has some molecular oxygen, Mars has trace amounts, and the moons Europa and Rhea have molecular oxygen as well.
/r/MGTOW11/10/18 02:47 AM
2

I made a probabilistic prediction, of course it can be wrong. I guess we'll see. As for your unicorn reports, meh. Sounds like a different country, and certainly a different era based on their age. Not all that relevant to the present day.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 10:33 PM
4

LMAO. Didn't even need to google: STNG reference? The lesson being, tell someone an obvious untruth often enough and under duress, they'll start believing it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 10:30 PM
18

It is baffling: what man would choose that? How broken and how low the self-esteem to settle for her, her baby, and whatever baby-drama would ensue?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/10/18 09:51 PM
6

You do have to admire, if begrudgingly, her ingenuity in letting tradcon simps know that she is available. I mean, really, a photoshoot in a wedding dress without an inconvenient husband, which some are interpreting as a sign of "commitment". Bet her inbox is blowing up. I'm a bit torn whether this is better or worse than the thots whose profiles are posted here and at WhereAreAllTheGoodMen. At least they aren't trying to cash in/garner fame on a dead man's corpse while trying to appear classy.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 09:10 PM
4

LOL. You really think she's showing commitment by staging a graveside photo shoot? Here's what is going to happen: tradcon simps are going to be lining up for this "good woman" who shows "commitment", and there will be a follow-up story 12-18 months from now how she found love again in the depths of despair. Another wedding, maybe this time the groom won't get out of it by dying. She'll probably get another 15 minutes out of it.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 07:36 PM
2

Oh, I don't know, maybe not being in a photo shoot for starters. Is that too much like a man?
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 07:08 PM
3

She purposefully put on a wedding dress, went to cemetery with a photographer, and staged a graveside photo. Hey, if you respect that, go for it.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 06:56 PM
2

Yeah, there's a binge of bannings going on. I got banned from TRP a few days ago for pointing out that whining about the quarantine was counter-productive. Even had a post deleted when I didn't buy the cryptic secret plan responses: Ok, sure, I wish you fortune in your game of 4D chess. Perhaps by inserting enough nuance coins, TRP will negotiate its way out of Reddit's Quarantine Zone. I do have to wonder if they fully grasp the irony of banning someone because they disagree with their response…
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 06:08 PM
9

True grieving is done in private, not put on public display with a photographer, props, and a costume change. The latter makes it about her loss, rather than the death of her fiance. It's a show for attention, and no doubt she will get it in spades.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 05:05 PM
7

LMAO. LARPing is getting out of control.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 04:57 PM
15

You've seen behind the curtain, know how and why the magic trick is done. Once you do that, what awed and intrigued previously now just seems kitschy and lame. Cringey might be a good word for it, what they're trying to do by plastering cute/sexy pics. Hence the cringe of tinder, snapchat, and whatever the new sites are that give a platform for such things.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 04:30 PM
3

Once they're done with Boxer, it's off to the glue factory. It's the way of the world, plan and act accordingly.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 04:08 PM
6

It would take quite a bit of ....selective...logic to have a 50/50 outcome for men and women. The simple stats are men work more hours, participate in the labor market at a higher rate, and are much less likely to take 6+ weeks off for medical leave multiple times in their 20s and 30s. This last is most damning, as the choices are either to temp hire someone to cover (additional hiring/training costs) or have other employees cover the slack. If hourly workers, this isn't as big of a deal, but sa…
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 03:44 PM
2

You are absolutely right, how her family reacts to the new boyfriend is her problem not yours. I would suggest though not communicating with her anymore. Ignore texts, don't answer calls. Nothing good can come of it for you.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 03:25 PM
63

That is beyond tacky and narcissistic.
/r/MGTOW10/10/18 01:31 PM
13

Absolutely, I 100% agree. The only caveat is that they should probably know she made this request; after all, they are still her family while the OP is no longer. It's possible they may decide for family peace to honor her request. I'd be a bit surprised, but it's possible. Furthermore, since it seems fairly obvious that the OP likes them and they like him, he shouldn't just ghost them without explanation to appease his ex. It doesn't sound like he had any intention of doing that, but one never …
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 06:51 PM
93

It sounds like you are handling it well. The only suggestion I would make is to talk to her parents/brother about her request not to hang out with them anymore. It sounds as though you are close with her brother, but it's probably for the best that you let them know what she wants and let them make the decision. Otherwise, she is almost certainly going to manufacture even more drama.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 06:35 PM
1

Thank you for your input. I will take your opinion under advisement.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 05:25 PM
2

Well said!
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 03:28 PM
35

It is natural for the younger generations particularly to feel hatred. You guys have been fed a pack of delusional lies your entire life. Once the blinders come off, it is painfully embarrassingly obvious that you've been played for suckers, and depending on where you are on your journey, that you were being led to the slaughterhouse. However, the hatred should fade, replaced by a rational wariness and, perhaps, a self-deprecating smile that yeah, they got you good, but you've recovered. Just re…
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 03:26 PM
6

Be careful if she tries to escalate and, of course, firmness of resolve does not necessarily mean rudeness. This is just politeness but it also serves a tactical purpose in these dangerous times. I mean, an obviously unhinged thot came extremely close to destroying a SCOTUS nominee, what chance do you think men of less means would have?
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 02:51 PM
22

Yeah, they're all unicorns until the horn falls off.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 02:32 PM
17

No one is entitled to your attention, nor do you have a responsibility to respond to her choosing signals. That is completely your choice, and no one else gets a say in it.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 02:31 PM
5

You show wisdom beyond your years. Well done, and keep up the good work. Don't be a notch for this thot.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 02:24 PM
7

It is interesting that even if drunk, men are still responsible for their behavior while women are assumed to be without culpability.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 01:38 PM
30

No, they earn less than men because on average they work less than men: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/time-spent-working-by-full-and-part-time-status-gender-and-location-in-2014.htm Coupled with a lower labor participation rate: https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm As well as (on average) women gravitating to easier jobs, that more than explains the earnings gap.
/r/MGTOW09/10/18 12:27 PM
15

Insanely bad move on his part, he's basically begging for being metoo'ed again. I hope he at least has the wisdom to follow the Pence rule.
/r/MGTOW08/10/18 10:25 PM
18

Just think, 50% of marriages end in divorce which are instigated by the woman 80% of the time. Consequently, any man reading this now: you have a roughly 40% chance of ending up feeling exactly like the OP if you get married and have kids. That's 40,000 per 100,000 married men. Compare that to almost any risk assessment number and it dwarfs it. for instance, the murder rate in the U.s. is roughly 5/100,000 per year. Even naively multiplying by 80 years (roughly average lifespan) only gives 400/1…
/r/MGTOW08/10/18 09:45 PM
1

Ok
/r/MGTOW08/10/18 07:56 PM
1

He's doing it to himself. It's just cringe, and the only pity is he that either he doesn't see it or he is so desperate he doesn't care.
/r/MGTOW08/10/18 07:43 PM
22

Yeah, RPW is a Chameleon Training Academy. Woman batting out of her league? They'll encourage her and give pointers for tricking the guy. Cucked her husband? They'll help with damage control. If The Red Pill is the cheat code for women, then RPW fancies itself the cheat code for RP men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/10/18 03:49 PM
0

Every plane is 2 dimensional, but they can be at angles to each other. The current "situation" is attributing complexity and meaning where there is none or very little. SJWs don't like Red Pill, do what they can to annoy and shit test the subreddits. Hilarity ensues. There is no bargaining or reasoning with these people, and any attempt is at best pointless and can give the appearance of looking weak and supplicating. It's straight-up RP outcome as a result of the belief in scarcity.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/18 01:50 PM
-1

Reddit is shit-testing TRP and the response hasn't been textbook, at least not in a good way.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/18 01:05 PM
6

It's not shut down, it's "quarantined" which operationally is like a NSFW landing screen.
/r/MGTOW05/10/18 09:54 PM
0

I don't get what the big deal is: any man deterred by some slack-jaw site admins saying "this sub is eeeeevil" isn't ready to swallow the red pill anyway. It's pretty bitchy to whine about it, much more effective if it just had been ignored and seen as an example of an ineffective hindrance to men. The only differences that I see are: Little exclamation mark upper left. It's adorable. "Quarantine" notice where the number of subscribers use to be. I think I read somewhere that mods can still see …
/r/TheRedPill05/10/18 09:22 PM
4

RPW, LMAO. They should just call that sub the Chameleon Training Academy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/10/18 09:53 PM
2

Instituting explicit legal quotas has a tendency to fire-up the opposition. I suspect CA is too far gone for this to be a threat there, but it will probably have some national influence in a way not intended. I also suspect that "principle executive offices" might start getting new out-of-state addresses as well.
/r/MGTOW02/10/18 10:11 PM
1

Would you rather face expulsion or worse in a Title IX he said/she said that you will lose, or the ramifications of using an "illegal" recording that no one would even know you have until the SHTF?
/r/TheRedPill02/10/18 09:01 PM
7

The false hope of the high end of the bell curve. Since there are sexpot 60-somethings, anyone can be. Statistics don't work that way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/18 08:00 PM
7

Well said, and the completely symmetrical version of the nice coins/sex expression.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/18 07:55 PM
1

Whether by her volition (vast majority of cases) or not (i.e. widowed), it's the same from the potential man-victim's perspective: he'd be on the hook to be cucked.
/r/MGTOW01/10/18 09:02 PM
1

Save Single moms have demonstrated with the child as proof that they will satisfy their own biological urges no matter what the man may want. Whether that's trapping a baby daddy out of marriage, or wanting to hit the branches again (i.e. divorce) in a marriage, it ultimately centers around the woman's biological urges. While AWALT, single moms have proven themselves like that.
/r/MGTOW01/10/18 09:01 PM
2

As far as I'm concerned, it still is.
/r/MGTOW01/10/18 08:51 PM
1

And rightly so. Yet another bastard child brought into the world against the father's wishes, which he gets to pay for against his will and contrary to his choice. Since you've demonstrated that your biological urges will be satiated no matter what the man wants, don't be surprised if you're treated as a pariah by many men.
/r/MGTOW01/10/18 08:51 PM
5

Your body, your choice, your responsibility. You didn't respect his desire not to be a father, so he bailed. You've now established that your won't respect the desires of any man in this regard and, thus, you are to be avoided. No doubt you'll be rewarded by the courts monetarily for your unilateral choice. Enjoy it, as no "alpha" with a modicum of sense would have anything to do with you less he likewise falls for the baby trap.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/10/18 08:30 PM
6

I would tend to agree. MGTOW is perfectly consistent with libertarianism, not so much with conservatism. Hell, conservatism is largely made up of trad cons, and they hate the idea of MGTOW almost as much as the libtards. Of course, it doesn'the mean a libertarian necessarily has to be MGTOW. They could deny hypergAmy, and the tenet that marriage is a bad deal for men. They'd be hard-pressed to successfully argue such a demonstrably false position, but they could do so and remain consistent.
/r/MGTOW29/09/18 12:34 AM
2

Then they'll either figure it out, or they won't. It's not rocket surgery. The vast majority of what is called "Red Pill" is age-old wisdom. RP categorizes it and makes it a system of sorts, but it's not really new information. But let's say what you maintain is true, that some men need help and can't figure it out on their own. Reddit is a small corner of the internet, a small step above 4chan as far as message boards go. There are plenty of other resources.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 11:02 PM
9

Get? The left is violent now: Antifa, Trump supporters routinely being attacked, etc. Try wearing a MAGA hat in certain locations or events and see what happens.
/r/MGTOW28/09/18 08:07 PM
1

I wish you luck in your endeavor.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 05:39 PM
6

There's more to capitalism than businesses being owned by the private sector. At its core, capitalism is about economic freedom, to be able to do what you want with your money. Some people start businesses, some invest, and some just piss it away on consumerism. As long as there is a demand for anything, there will always be a capitalist free market even if it has to go underground. The ones usually referred to as capitalists provide these goods, while the consumers make the demand. Everything y…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 05:39 PM
0

They're men: if they want to change, they will. No amount of examples, stories, or "mentoring" will convert a dedicated Boxer-like BP simp. Hell, if anything, the quarantining might give TRP even more of a panache for the curious.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 04:11 PM
3

Hell, there was more slavery in pre-colonial Africa than there ever was in all of North and South America.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 04:02 PM
1

America isn't a democracy, it's a republic. A 51% vote could not re-institute slavery, as an example.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 03:59 PM
1

Well said, sir. However, as a long-time libertarian and staunch individualist, I have to wonder at what point should one take to heart the expression "Either hang together, or hang separately"? Yes, politics is essentially bullshit, as is any sort of collectivist identity, but the radical left is having a demonstrable effect on the real world. I don't have an answer, certainly not any that I like.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 03:58 PM
1

That's MRA's mission, not TRP.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 03:44 PM
5

The unholy alliance of capitalism and feminism destroying masculinity, shaming our glorious past, and actually twisting and changing our outlook on everything. (Just check out google doodles if you doubt this. Capitalism and feminism go hand in hand. The primary reason for behind this being, women spend far, far more than men. When was the last time you purchased a shirt? Take a look at your female colleagues and see how much money they spend on shopping, every month. It will be more than your y…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 03:42 PM
4

LMAO. The term "cultural revolution" does not have a good history: https://www.history.com/topics/china/cultural-revolution Durbin is old enough to know the term, but he's a dem so perhaps he actually supported Mao's implementation.
/r/MGTOW28/09/18 03:10 PM
2

His. Go His Own Way.
/r/MGTOW28/09/18 11:26 AM
24

A bit odd that they targeted TRP first, though, particularly if one ascribes to the notion that the timing with the Kavanaugh hearings plays a part. After all, there's much more discussion of exactly the sort of railroading he's getting here than at TRP. They would have more of tendency to blame him for not lifting enough or failing to maintain frame.
/r/MGTOW27/09/18 11:30 PM
13

Harsh truths, but truths none-the-less. There's no winning as a group for us, the only thing each of us can do is GHOW. Sure, we can support each other in forums such as these, as long as they're allowed, but ultimately, it is each of us against a society gone mad. Take precautions, gentlemen.
/r/MGTOW27/09/18 10:20 PM
7

I liken it to the character of Boxer from Animal Farm: with the motto "I will work harder!", he thinks he will make a utopia. However, once his strength is spent, it's off to the glue factory.
/r/MGTOW26/09/18 08:52 PM
2

She can't make up her mind. She can't even commit to owning a dog, she just fosters them. That's the pet-owners equivalent of the cock carousel.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/18 03:52 PM
2

Bikers, criminals, and ex-cons might.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/18 03:51 PM
5

Forget the tattoos and the dubious history. All you have to do to know this one is Trouble (note the capital) is that first picture. Her expression is of a woman who would pour gasoline on a man while passed out and gleefully light him on fire, probably because he did something outrageous like leave the toilet seat up.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/18 03:49 PM
2

That's a good point. I'm looking at my Bachelors diploma right now, and it doesn't even mention my major. Just "The School of Arts and Sciences has conferred upon <Name> the Degree of Bachelor of Arts" The fact that it's a B.A. instead of a B.S. was just a choice I made on a 3x5 index card a few months before graduation, no difference in curriculum at all. Being in STEM, physics, I figured a B.A. sounded better. Shrug.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/18 05:19 PM
1

Presumably, she would have triple-majored, though nursing is generally a separate school rather than a major in a college. Never heard of "Engineering Physics" as a major, but perhaps that's a variation of "Applied Physics" or "Computational Physics" which I know exist. Either way, that's two very demanding and disparate majors, some type of physics and biology (which is often the stand-in for "Pre-Med"), with not a great deal of overlap. Methinks she is padding her resume.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/09/18 03:22 PM
3

He exemplifies the difference between a man and a plow horse. The first will do what is right, even if it's painful, while the second will just bear any burden placed on it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/09/18 02:53 PM
9

Yeah, we of the white feather won't be shamed into ruination or worse. It's very difficult to sculpt a men-specific tax in the U.S. that would pass constitutional muster. Perhaps an expanded "luxury tax" on goods over a certain amount, but which could be offset if married filing jointly. And yes, I realize that as a demographic group, men pay far more taxes for far fewer benefits than women.
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 09:51 PM
10

I just don't see what a non-tyrannical government can do about it. I guess alter the tax code to make marriage super-appealing, but if you're earning no income or a very low income, I don't see that as much of an incentive. Some men have just found other things to do.
/r/MGTOW14/09/18 08:46 PM
1

Yes, I realized that may have been your meaning after I had posted. You're most likely right.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:54 PM
1

You're right, earnings is better since it underscores that they make less money on average because they work less. In other words, earn less.
/r/MGTOW08/09/18 02:52 PM
2

Welcome to hypergamy. It's just their nature, so adjust your expectations accordingly. Likewise, it would be imprudent to give her anything of great value, such as a legal commitment.
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 10:12 PM
57

It really should be called an income gap. Wage makes it sound like women who work the same number of hours in the same job with the same experience level make less than men. That hasn't been the case for nearly 60 years in the U.S.. Rather, the income gap is brought about by: It's an average, so women leaving the workforce for extended periods drives it down for women as a whole Women are more likely to work part time, again driving the average down Women are less likely to take high-risk jobs w…
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 10:03 PM
8

A thirsty man will crawl through barbed wire to get to a fetid brackish pool of water.
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 09:58 PM
1

English literature? What was this, "Christine" by Stephen King?
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 09:20 PM
9

They are pussy-worshippers, you're better off without them.
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 07:41 PM
3

A good point of inquiry would be that since I don't own them, in what sense should I value girls? Was this the message/interpretation for a particular piece of literature, or was this just stated out of the blue? I'm trying to think of works with this as a message. Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" has the importance of relationships over material pursuit, but it's general human interaction rather than romantic interests. Hawthorne's version of King Midas is similar, though that does have greed for g…
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 06:28 PM
1

Amazing, the level of entitlement. That is certainly a recurring theme here. It's also amazing that this woman can "afford" a phone out less than a year, still costs knocking on a grand, yet can't afford 37 bucks to fix it. I'm intrigued by the business model; it's essentially "appliance insurance" for phones. Makes sense, though putting a case on the phone would probably all-but-eliminate the need.
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 06:16 PM
6

How is she not arrested? She was off duty, unlawfully entered someone's apartment (mistake or no, she was trespassing at the very least), and killed him.
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 05:30 PM
6

But for some to be rich, others must be poor. Economies grow. The "poor" today have resources (entertainment, electronics, food) that would put them in kingly status or beyond compared to a century ago. We might get some level of gender war (probably has already begun). There's no "probably" about it, we are in a low-intensity gender war right now. I only say "low-intensity" because it isn't physically violent by-and-large. Rather, the type of warfare is women as a group getting carve-outs, spec…
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 05:23 PM
2

Women aren't disabled.
/r/MGTOW07/09/18 01:40 AM
1

True, I've seen that sort of nonsense myself.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 09:26 PM
3

Agreed, but what did this particular woman actually write? I am generally against "hate crime" laws, because they end up making something a crime with no individually identifiable victim. Such as the dude in UK who got convicted of a hate crime because he taught his dog to raise its paw like a sieg heil to the command "gas the jews" or similar. It was so obviously a joke, in poor taste granted but a joke none-the-less that being found criminal was absurd. Now, I don't know if this particular fem…
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 09:10 PM
3

LOL. Of course, because all women are every man's responsibility unless she doesn't want it, then it's harassment. It's ridiculous what has become not only possible, but actuality or at least probable.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 08:42 PM
17

The sense of entitlement is unreal: she didn't even ask anyone if she could have their seat, she was outraged because no one offered until near the end of her 35 minute (!) trip. And then, another woman quickly grabbed the vacated seat and put on her headphones. That part is particularly funny. Lady, I don't care if you have a kid. You, and your kid, are not my problem, concern, or responsibility. Public transport is first come-first served, though I would be willing to bet there will be seats r…
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 08:29 PM
9

It went the way of the dinosaurs, the dodo, and women remaining virgins until marriage. It couldn't compete, so it died out and we're all better off for it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/18 06:10 PM
1

I'm not advocating "settling down", abandoning dreams, or even letting pussy become a primary, secondary, or tertiary pursuit. Rather that being voluntarily celibate for ten years may not be necessary and could prove counter-productive. However, that's ultimately for each man to decide for himself.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 05:54 PM
1

Congratulations on the Credit Score! Beats mine, which fluctuates between 814 and 821 for some unknown reason. I know it's a relatively convoluted calculation, and perhaps mine is lower because I have no loans out (no mortgage, no auto, no student, none), just two credit cards only one of which I use and which I pay off in full every month. Anyway, enough rationalizations. Well done, sir!
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 05:41 PM
3

Yeah, or N-count, or weight, both of which she has much more control over than a man has over his height.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 05:19 PM
23

Single moms are easy pickings to smash, but they can also be a trap. It's a tossup whether they're worth the risk, mostly depending on your tendency to emotional attachment, resiliency to white knighting, and diligence in using protection.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 04:53 PM
1

Well, you know yourself better than I, but don't necessarily get too hooked on the "ten years celibate" goal. Don't be afraid to periodically reassess as your thirst requires.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 04:34 PM
6

That is an ambitious goal, perhaps too ambitious and, perhaps, not necessary. No reason you couldn't smash as the desire and opportunity presents itself, as long as you don't get emotionally or legally entangled. In fact, at your age and with proper safeguards, it might be more prudent to do so in a controlled manner rather than suddenly "letting yourself go" in ten years time. Either way, good fortune on your journey sir, whichever path you take.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 04:25 PM
2

Well, as far as personifying MGTOW principles, "The Maltese Falcon" with Bogart as Sam Spade is a good role model: sure, get involved with women, but don't be a sap. The modern term would be simp, but same idea.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 09:36 PM
2

Yeah, I'm pretty much super-hero movied out. Haven't seen Infinity War, Black Panther, or any of the Ant Man movies. When they make their way to Netflix or Amazon as part of prime, maybe, but I doubt even that.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 09:18 PM
2

Heh. Classic line.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 09:16 PM
4

Cold, dead eyes, like a doll's eyes....
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 08:47 PM
2

My father has been dead for 22 years and my mother still bitches about him. They had been married 37 years at that point.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 08:24 PM
2

He looks like a Great Dane and, since Great Danes come from Mastiffs and sometimes referred to as "German Mastiffs", his tendency to being irrationally frightened/avoiding conflict is accurate in many specimens of the breed.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 04:24 PM
60

If you were to write fiction with this as the plot, such a narrative would induce eye-rolling as being unbelievable and the product of someone with an agenda.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 02:44 PM
6

LOL. They'll be no collapse; too many Boxer-like BP simps who will say "I will work harder".
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 01:21 PM
14

And those holding out hope for the Disney ending remember: variations on this story happen in 50% of all marriages. A certain percentage of the remainder being miserable, dead bedroom, abusive, or only ending in early death. Thus, you have less than coinflip odds of having a happy ending if you get married. Also remember, it's all downside for the man: you gain no rights or privileges by marrying her. You still have no say in whether she gets an abortion or not, you have no say within the confin…
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 12:18 PM
40

If there are strings attached, it's not a gift, it's a proposed trade.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 09:13 PM
-1

This will not be popular, and I am somewhat loath to say it, but some of those stipulations are just good manners. Asking to hangout trumping his play and immediately answering calls are obnoxious demands, though. Of course, the dude could give her an ~80 dollar gift and put demands on her "attention" in order to retain the gift as well...
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 08:12 PM
6

LMAO. They are ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 06:06 PM
2

Read the sidebar at TRP. Apply it, save don't make pussy the be-all and end-all of your life and never get married, take precautions on getting baby-trapped, and don't co-habitate. Bam, you're MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 05:57 PM
2

MGTOW reject the notion of marriage in its entirety, and likewise will not get into financially entangling relationships with women. Incels are essentially failed tradcons, or red pill not willing to do the work. They want LTRs and marriage. I'm confused by your source of confusion, thinking that MGTOW and Incels are the same thing. They are opposites in most ways.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 04:12 PM
9

LOL. Well, I've always been an A-to-B guy, never caring even as a teenager what my car looked like. As long as the damn thing ran reliably, that's all I wanted. I'm in my early 50s and have had exactly 3 new cars in my life, the most recent purchased 3 years ago is the nicest one I've ever had and it's a Camry. No loan, paid in entirety at purchase, which is the first time I've done that and surprisingly difficult. I'm hoping to get at least ten years out of it, and possibly a good deal more.
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 03:57 PM
16

What I found probably the most stereotypical was her incredulity at thinking you couldn't give good financial advice because of the car you drive. LOL. These people fail to realize that for all their status symbol, cars are a money-losing proposition, an essentially disposable consumer item. Yes, disposable over a timeframe of years, but disposable none-the-less. The more one can squeeze out of it, the better. That's good financial advice, but it amounts to "spend less" and "don't try to impress…
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 03:23 PM
20

It is amazing how one can predict with fair certainty the outcome, and see years if not decades out, just from a very abbreviated version of maybe an hour or two conversation. I suspect that she in particular was looking for the OP to provide some magic money making machine to continue fueling her lifestyle. They "can't" spend less, they are almost certainly heavily in debt, I would wager that they are living paycheck to paycheck with at best maybe one paycheck in savings. It was a desperation m…
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 02:37 PM
1

Will any external work, or does specially PS4 require a Sony approved one, enforced via a proprietary connector or encrypted handshake?
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 12:10 AM
3

pretty sure that's a wig
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 11:49 PM
2

Hours worked is not a good metric for physicians. Rather, number of patients would be a more relevant one. None of those studies use that metric. I know of a female physician who sees fewer patients than her two male colleagues, yet oftentimes works more hours, has a nurse and an M.A., and has a scribe to help her as well. She just isn't efficient at getting her job done, most of it to do with indecisiveness. I don't know how universal that is, but this anecdote gives a good indication of why th…
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 05:27 PM
77

What the fuck pussy-whipped simp would take that kind of bullshit? Dollars to donuts he apologized to her later. He's probably a sucker for the big fat ass look. I have never had a woman treat me like that, not even remotely close, which is probably why I've also never had need to strike a woman. At the very least, she would have had a super-sized soda poured over her head, no ice to increase the liquid volume.
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 02:00 PM
1

That is a good mindset. Women are, at best, one of many hobbies, something meant to enjoyably pass the time not fill it. By extension, Simps who get married or make pussy their primary passion are like guys who tailor their own costumes to go to Star Trek conventions and use the word "we" when talking about the federation. You're taking it too seriously, dude.
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 02:03 AM
-1

if you'll note, the Facebook rebuttal doesn't dispute his claim.
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 01:55 AM
51

Exactly. She was butthurt because he had the audacity to break up with her. It's encouraging that there are still men who won't take that sort of disrespect and betrayal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/18 12:44 AM
3

I see where you're coming from, but consider: a man throwing off the chains of gynocentricity frees himself to produce and create. I think he would have more of a chance of offering me something I'd be willing to buy or trade. I can bargain and strike a deal with such a man, certainly more so than Simps who can't be trusted since no swindle is out of bounds if he does it for his woman. Consequently, I stand to gain by a MGTOW man far more than those still gobbling the blue pills.
/r/MGTOW03/09/18 12:03 AM
13

Generally speaking, the right thinks it's the duty of men to protect women, while the left think it's the duty of men to serve women. MGTOW disagrees with both notions.
/r/MGTOW02/09/18 11:17 PM
120

LOL. Cheating is a "small" thing. Well, I guess breaking up is a small thing too.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/09/18 11:12 PM
3

I disagree. They are ruled by the government, thus they should have a say in its administration. However, the run-away mob rule made possible by the 16th amendment needs to be fixed. At the very least, a uniform tax rate with no deductions: if you earn money in this country, you pay X% as determined by the people you vote for. Furthermore, if you aren't capable of supporting yourself (i.e. require government assistance), you should also not have the franchise. If you can't manage your own life, …
/r/MGTOW02/09/18 08:05 PM
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