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The paper is bizarre. I hope, as others have mentioned, that this was supposed to be an opinion piece. It's only loosely tied to reality. In the 80’s, the feminist movement doubled-down, working hard to stretch the definition of rape to include acquaintance rape, date rape, and even spousal rape. Well yeah, spousal rape, acquaintance rape and date rape should all be illegal. It sounds like he's arguing that the definition was stretched too far here, but these situations never should have been ex…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 06:00 PM
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those who understand the letter of the law will understand that consent requires sobriety The law, in most places, doesn't require sobriety. It requires some level of function. If I'm drunk, but still able to do stuff then I can consent. If I'm passed out on the floor, then I can't.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 01:42 PM
1

I don't know how extradition works where child support is concerned. I wouldn't want that looming over me, negating any option of traveling to the US though.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:48 PM
3

I would want to be in the kid's life. So this wouldn't be an acceptable option for me. I respect both the woman and man that are able to make something like this work.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:16 PM
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The key to me is the info on page 83 of the study. The vast majority of the women included in the 1 in 5 number are there because of drinking. Yet, 75% of those said they were not raped. Why are they still included in the 1 in 5 number? It should really be closer to 1 in 20 or so.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 07:59 PM
1

Fight for at least partial custody. Child support will always be an option for her, but custody will become more and more difficult for you to get. Now is the time.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 05:16 PM
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I completely agree. And the possibility of child support will always be there. If he doesn't pursue custody now, he won't be able to get it later.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 05:12 PM
2

The problem with this is that the mother will have the option to get child support if she wants it later. Starting a family now would be incredibly risky. If he wants to be a part of this kid's life, then he should fight for it now. It will never be easier to get custody and can really only get more and more difficult.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 05:11 PM
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I might agree if she was a teacher or principal. It doesn't sound like she had much power at all.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 04:53 PM
2

Most of us argue that we should have an option to opt out. Very few argue that men should have a real say in abortion. I think the article covers this. If you want to argue that it's just a biological imbalance, do you also support not hiring pregnant or young women because they might have to take a lot of time off if they have a baby?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 06:07 PM
13

Why should she? They were a couple and business partners. If he bought the ticket for himself, then it belongs to him and no one else. She doesn't control everything he purchases with the money he earned from their business.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 05:59 PM
16

Why does them living together mean she should get part of his lottery winnings?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 05:51 PM
9

Feminism: the fight for slightly more convenient phones for women.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 01:39 PM
2

I went through that with an ex. She would say horrible stuff and then deny it. I finally recorded it and played it back for her later. We weren't together much longer.
/r/MensRights07/11/13 03:17 PM
5

Please do this and update us later. Keep records of everything she says and don't say another word to her. If she tries to instigate a fight, make a record and ignore her.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 04:30 PM
4

When do we ever talk about the friendzone? I never see posts on the subject, yet it seems to be what these people think we care about.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 11:45 PM
4

Cut back on the sarcasm and people might want to discuss this stuff with you.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 06:09 PM
3

I think most of us agree with your second point. Women have the final say in anything going on with their body. It would be great if there was a discussion between a couple, since it's a decision that greatly impacts both people. But, the choice should stay hers. I disagree with your first point. But, youre entitled to that opinion.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 05:50 PM
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Court. My fear would be that she would later say that you didn't actually pay her. There wouldn't be any record of the payments. When people argue to do stuff out of court, they mean custody and distribution of assets (maybe). I would never do child support or alimony out of court. Too risky
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:30 PM
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I appreciate the link, but none of the sources seem to work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape The wiki has a collection of studies that show the rate ranging from 2% to 90%. I'm not sure we can say that it's absolutely above 40% with only a handful of studies supporting that. I think you could say it's somewhere between 10-40% and probably be right, but there aren't any absolutes with this stuff.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 10:45 PM
2

it's just the taking away of women's rights Can you point to any posts that do this? I honestly never see MRAs arguing for the reduction in anyone's rights.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:24 PM
3

I think this is a highly disputed fact. Are you considering all "not-guilty" verdicts to be fraudulent claims?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:20 PM
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Blackburn said there is "a lesson to be learned" from the incident, both about being more careful in public behavior The lesson the guy learned - Without video evidence and a public audience to corroborate his story, he'd be facing charges at the very least.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 09:28 PM
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I'm glad they have their own space and don't spend as much time over here.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 02:33 PM
2

Would it not just be "moving the goalpost?" I normally just end the discussion when it happens more than once.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 09:22 PM
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It's wrong to have sex with kids because they aren't mature enough to really consent. That goes for girls and boys.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 09:08 PM
2

such a stance will be problematic as some will say we are endorsing hate by discounting the arguments and not the people making them. Someone will always find a reason to dismiss what's being said. For Warren Farrell, it's that he endorses rape and incest. Both accusations are based on misinterpreted quotes from decades ago. The bottom line is, it's impossible to please everyone. I think the most important thing is that we don't endorse statements that are sexist/racist/etc. If someone is vocall…
/r/MensRights25/10/13 04:32 PM
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Get a lawyer and don't take any plea deals.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 09:02 AM
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I think a lot of us use "falsely accused" to mean that the person intentionally accused someone knowing they weren't raped by that person. There should be another term for accusing someone that you believe raped you, but didn't.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 02:13 PM
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Ah. I see what you mean. In the south, many young republicans have held onto their parents racism. I'm not sure about other areas of the country.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 03:10 PM
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Not every article about the issues men face needs to include this caveat. It would be like writing a piece on rape and ending it with "don't forget, some women lie about being raped." It's true, but unnecessary to include everytime the topic is brought up. Men make up the most homeless - well, more men than women are CEOs. Women are graduating at higher rates than men at all levels of education. - well, more men than women are CEOs Etc. It doesn't need to be brought up in every damn discussion.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 02:16 PM
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My parents are racist republicans. Most republicans I know are.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 02:03 PM
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Just google something like "child support for kids that aren't his." I'm not sure how often it happens, but thers are instances where a boyfriend or second husband "takes on a fatherly role" and ends up paying child support for it.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 05:03 PM
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I love seeing the different responses in other subs. 2x and feminisms understand the stupidity of this. SRS based subs embrace the stupidity.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 05:01 PM
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Clearly she deserves to live the same luxurious lifestyle forever. She's used to it. That's a good enough reason for me.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 01:44 PM
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The event is presented as one about men. It's really about how men can better serve women. And a blanket statement like "masculinity = soggy knees" is offensive. Masculinity is not hatred.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 01:30 PM
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I would probably report it to the school as hate speech. Most universities would take such a claim extremely seriously. The event name is basically "men are toxic and hate women, come find out why." I especialky wouldn't want my fees paying for something so clearly not in my best interest.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 01:27 PM
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I'm thrilled to see people talking about it, even with a negative spin. Most people understand that you can't judge a site based on a few comments. Youtube is a haven for all things evil, if you only judge it by the comments.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 12:31 AM
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This seems to be the big message of the week. No one ever says "he was drunk, he couldn't consent." Everyone seems to treat sex as something that men do to women. If anything negative happens, then the guy must have done something wrong.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 07:02 PM
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This is rape culture.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 05:21 PM
6

Someone posted in the /r/news thread about this. The threats about the registry apparently came from an assistant principal. He never really faced being put on it. I think the ass principal should be fired and should pay the family damages.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 03:31 PM
1

It is when you have study after study saying that "race is the reason for longer sentences." What would convince you?
/r/MensRights06/10/13 12:25 AM
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Here's a study that controls for most of the things that I imagine you would use to argue away race as an issue. It also covers 77,236 offenders, not just 5 of each race. http://time.dufe.edu.cn/jingjiwencong/waiwenziliao1/004109.web.pdf First, after controlling for extensive criminological, demographic, and socioeconomic variables, I found that blacks, males, and offenders with low levels of education and income receive substantially longer sentences.
/r/MensRights06/10/13 12:14 AM
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How can it not? Class can't because the judge probably has very little knowledge regarding a defendant's class. It should be obvious that a judge knows the race/ethnicity of the defendant. You should try reading some of the information on the subject. You're dismissing it without even trying to understand any of it.
/r/MensRights05/10/13 11:54 PM
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It only proves that certain people WERE arrested/charged/sentenced Class can't really play into how someone is sentenced. I can give you the arrests numbers. Arrests are going to be higher in low income areas, which are predominantly black. But, sentencing should be even across race. It clearly isn't. In the first literature review, it shows that black people receive longer sentences than white people. If i show you the statistics that show that blacks are about 10 times more likely to commit an…
/r/MensRights05/10/13 10:55 PM
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https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/2170-new-study-by-professor-david-s-abrams-confirms Here's an updated study from 2012. The way the study was conducted, it doesn't show if blacks get a better or worse deal, but it does show that race plays a factor in sentencing.
/r/MensRights05/10/13 10:52 PM
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Its a bad analogy because it focuses on race as if its proven to be a factor in sentencing... I showed you a literature review showing that race is proven to be a factor in sentencing. You can argue that arrests and stops are class based, but the studies clearly show that race is a factor in sentencing.
/r/MensRights05/10/13 10:46 PM
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http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data It's still an issue of race. You're more likely to be in a lower income area if you're black. If 10 people are being stopped and 8 are innocent, and 7 of those are black or Hispanic, it seems fairly clear that there's a racial issue at play. Here's a literature review showing that blacks and Hispanics are also subject to harsher sentencing. http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_sentencing_review.pdf This can't really be explained aw…
/r/MensRights05/10/13 10:34 PM
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When the stop and frisk rate is higher for blacks (with and without arrests), the arrest rate is higher for blacks, and the sentencing is harsher, you have to consider that there might be an issue of causation involved. Would you only agree if people actually said "I give harsher sentences for black defendants?"
/r/MensRights05/10/13 09:59 PM
1

Is it not? I know it's a proven factor in arrests.
/r/MensRights05/10/13 06:10 AM
1

Different things are comfortable for different people. If I try to sit like that, I feel like my balls are being crushed. I'm sure many of the guys you see sitting with their legs slightly open are in my situation. It's very uncomfortable to sit otherwise.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 01:44 AM
3

To be fair, a lot of people jumped in to correct them.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 03:36 PM
12

I normally preface stats like that with something like "Using similar logic that leads to 1 in 4 women being labeled as rape victims..."
/r/MensRights08/09/13 07:21 PM
5

Wow! That's probably the worst I've seen.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 10:34 PM
3

It's a story we've all been following for a while. His not being able to play in the NFL is a direct result of the false accusation.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 02:07 PM
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My main problem with these bogus stats is that they end up being used to justify crazy logic. "I Need Feminism because I shouldn't have to always be afraid of sexual assault." Why are they afraid? Because they've been taught to fear sex and to believe that they have a near 100% chance of being a victim of horrific crimes. When in reality, they'll most likely lead a fairly uneventful life without ever being a victim.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 07:01 PM
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Using the same definitions from these surveys, I've been raped at least three times and sexually assaulted probably a hundred times. If you're remotely attractive and you do anything social, you've probably been "sexually assaulted" and quite possibly "raped." Eventually, they have to look at these numbers and say "shit, we made all of this way too broad and now everyone is a victim. Maybe we should go back and re-evaluate all of this so only real victims are included. That way, people might act…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 06:55 PM
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Absolutely. If you believe otherwise that just further proves there is one and that you have assimilated into it. These are the idiots we're dealing with.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 01:50 AM
5

How did she do the right thing while he did the wrong thing? They did the same thing.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 02:16 AM
1

Unfonscious? Sure. People go out to get drunk or high with the express intent to have sex. Are you saying that all of these people have been raped? If that's the case then the something like 80 or 90% of adults have been raped.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 04:16 PM
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No one is attacking anyone. Op is pointing out the double standard. What's the easiest way to get a law that negatively impacts men changed? Show the US that it can also negatively impact young women.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:09 PM
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People see this girl going to jail as an injustice, but the same people would be calling a guy the same age a predator. This is exactly what men's rights is about.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 04:32 PM
2

I got this last night too. I've posted once or twice in both, but neither this month. Seems so petty to just ban everyone that might possibly disagree.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 04:14 PM
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I don't have a source. I'll look later if I remember. The idea was that someone that looks shy is going to be an easier target. I did a quick search and the only other thing that comes up is that rapists look for women with easy to remove clothes, which would support ops argument. I imagine there are different motivators for someone hiding in a back alley and someone prowling a party or club. Each person is going to be looking for different types of victims.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 04:17 PM
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The only stuff I've seen on the topic of victim's clothing choice was a series of interviews with rapists. They said modestly dressed women were more likely to be easier targets.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:23 PM
2

That would be an interesting way to do it, and could definitely work.
/r/MensRights16/08/13 06:04 PM
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How would one anonymously request this? It would be pretty obvious to the mother who asked for it
/r/MensRights16/08/13 02:30 PM
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It's probably obvious most of the time. The problem is, it's obvious to the only person with incentive to lie about it
/r/MensRights16/08/13 02:28 PM
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I think men and women face different challenges in court. An attorney will understand both sides, but they'll be an expert in whichever one they focus on.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 10:02 PM
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I disagree. The attorney should understand both sides just by representing one of them. They're going to see all of the stuff that gets filed for the other side, but they'll become experts at responding to it. I would prefer an attorney that could say "I represent people like you, and I'm successful doing it."
/r/MensRights14/08/13 09:29 PM
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I didn't say anything about their being more or less lawyers doing this kind of work. I was just pointing out that work for husbands and fathers is going to be different than work for mothers and wives. If I went to court, I would want to know that my lawyer has experience representing men. I would compare it to lawyers who represent either the company or the injured person in a products liability case. If you're Walmart, then you want attorneys with experience representing your side of the tria…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 09:20 PM
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I've been considering starting, or joining, a firm that specializes in this kind of thing. Fathers and husbands seem to need the most help today, so why not specialize in that?
/r/MensRights14/08/13 09:17 PM
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Why? Wouldn't you want someone with experience with your specific needs? Husbands and fathers face unique challenges in court.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 09:00 PM
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"You're a man and something bad happened to you because you're a man? Those poor poor women. I can't imagine what they must be going through right now."
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:31 PM
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It's not the mods job to control what the rest of us do while we browse reddit.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:20 PM
7

If you don't see the double standards in the spots you quoted alone, then you're crazy.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 01:54 PM
1

I don't doubt that there was brigading, just that it was the reason for the ban. Other groups brigade much more heavily than this sub ever has, and they haven't been banned. That leads me to believe that there was some other reason behind it. SRS brigades are fairly notorious with piles of evidence of them.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 08:08 PM
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They didn't tell us. The theory is because of brigading, but they still allow for srs posts, so that's not the case. I think they just dislike our political agenda.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 11:08 PM
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I see the MRM more about raising awareness than anything else. When I joined over a year ago, we had 50k people here. Now we have 70k+ and a variety of subs. We have positive front page posts about us in several very popular subs, including bestof (where we're banned). We've become the focal point of many feminists and we're one of the only things radfems seem to discuss lately. In srsd the top three posts are about us and basically their fear that we're gaining traction. They joke about how lit…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 03:04 PM
7

Your child support paying male friends have had the exact opposite experience that all of mine have had. I have friends paying child support even during the months when he's the primary caretaker. I have others that are paying massive chunks of their salary. And, another paying it even though he already pays for everything for his kid and has primary custody. Your friends should consider themselves extremely lucky if they don't feel royally fucked by family courts.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 04:38 AM
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You seem to be ignoring the fact that power is something women find attractive. It can be both a male power fantasy and something intended to be attractive to women.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 04:34 AM
2

I hated this sub when I first got to Reddit. I thought it was hateful and misguided. Then I was in 2X, a sub I frequented often. An abortion discussion started and the topic of financial abortions came up. Everyone started spewing the standard arguments "men should know the consequences of sex" and "if they don't want kids, they just just not have sex." I was amazed to see the same abortion arguments that were so demonized when aimed at women, being upvoted. That was when I reconsidered this sub…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:07 PM
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Right, I just wanted to clarify that point.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 05:06 PM
1

Thank you for clearing this up. It's important to know that this is applied equally. It doesn't make it a non-issue for men though.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 04:58 PM
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If I had to guess, I would say it's a bit of both. I don't know if a lesbian would face the same problems in court that a gay man would face.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:05 PM
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I don't disagree with anything you said here. I was solely disagreeing with the idea that gay people don't face many of the same issues that men do as a general group. Really, the only people that don't are straight women.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 03:36 PM
1

You argued that gay people don't face these issues for being gay. I disagreed and you brought up activists. The fact that their are LGBT activists doesn't change the fact that you are wrong about the way that gay people are discriminated against.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:31 PM
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I don't remember bringing up media interest or social right advocates. Weird.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 12:48 AM
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Family court bias is present for gay men. How do you think a man would be treated for divorcing his wife because he's gay? Do you think it could play into whether or not he gets custody of his kids?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 12:36 AM
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The message is in reading it. You wouldn't learn anything new with a summary. Take five minutes and read it, if youre interested.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 10:09 PM
12

To be fair, a lot of the things you listed do happen to gay people because they are gay.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:52 PM
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Some are though. It's a loose connection, but it is there.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:56 PM
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The only significance is that posters seem to be annoyed that the kid is a boy. Having a boy should be just as celebrated as having a girl.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:21 PM
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I agree. I just want to point out that if things become equally bad for women, then people might start paying attention.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:59 PM
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It's helpful to challenge the numbers presented. The numbers don't really need to be fudged to be damning.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 01:48 PM
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How can you look at the stats (they do need to be updated) and still see it so clearly as men > women in life? Higher suicide rates, lower graduation rates, higher number of homeless, etc.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 05:40 PM
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I thought they were referring to the Men's Rights group, not GWW when they said "it." As a spokesperson, she speaks for the group, so it makes sense that they would refer to the group.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:07 PM
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This would work with most people, men and women. It's all basically, be a good significant other and your significant other will be happy.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:26 PM
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I can admit that more guys are perpetrators, but not the vast majority of them. The numbers are always basically made up. 1 in 4 or 5 are fake numbers and should just be ignored. Plus, once you start including "forced to penetrate" a fairly significant number of female rapists are shown. There isn't one gender of rapists. Both are guilty on fairly close levels.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 06:59 PM
3

Understandable. This comment would have been better received.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 03:14 PM
11

You'll save yourself downvotes if you just click the upvote button instead of announcing your intent to click the upvote button.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 01:41 PM
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You people? I'm one person and I'm familiar with the topic. You can see my other topic in this thread explaining why I believe it's fake. Edit: Nevermind, you responded to that comment.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 11:03 PM
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I have. Two exceptions typically apply. 1. Evidence of a prior sexual relationship between the victim and the accused. 2. Evidence of sexual activity with another person during the same day. This is the general rule, I'm sure some states allow less evidence. But, it's extremely unlikely that both would not be allowed. This story is made up.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 06:55 PM
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There was a 2X post earlier where someone admits to deciding the guilt of a man before ever hearing his testimony or seeing any evidence beyond the testimony of the alleged victims. She and the other people on the jury convicted a man based on some of the least reliable evidence out there.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:33 PM
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I don't normally say this, but this shit never happened. If it did, the guy has a fairly open and shut appeal ahead.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 05:27 PM
8

It most likely would have been admitted, even as evidence of prior consent. This story doesn't sound remotely true.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 04:57 PM
2

Yeah, but I was responding to "why are more serial killers men?"
/r/MensRights25/06/13 02:48 PM
2

Serial killers - an issue of not properly addressing mental health in men and boys. Rapists - more a product of it being impossible for women to legally be rapists until fairly recently. How many wives do you think were legally raped by their husbands in the 1950s. I'll give you a hint. The answer is zero. Not because less wives were raped, but because it wasn't illegal to rape your wife before the 70's.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 01:46 PM
1

I think the problem is that any idiot that says something mean is now labeled an MRA. If they say something negative about a woman then they're definitely an MRA.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 09:04 PM
2

I've read multiple opinions that say it's rape if you don't get a verbal "yes" to the question "do you want to have sex?" At the very least the verbal request is required.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 04:41 PM
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I think verbal is what drags the number down. I've only had sex a few times where the consent was verbal and not just spur of the moment passion.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 02:29 PM
1

And? Can you explain why that's relevant here?
/r/MensRights19/06/13 04:22 PM
4

When your opinion is immediately dismissed based on your gender, it becomes very difficult to then have a genuine conversation with that person.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 09:23 PM
1

Not all double standards are in favor of women. One prime example is the photo that pops up every time a woman posts something with any part of her in the photo.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 05:40 PM
5

Creepypms is basically an srs subreddit. You won't get very far if you defend the mrm.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 08:18 PM
1

The strange thing is, if she was part of the study that says 1 in 4 women have been raped then she would be counted as a victim. You would be marked as a rapist. It doesn't matter that she said yes and enjoyed herself.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 03:20 PM
2

The fact that it's satire doesn't change anything.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 01:34 PM
3

As others have said, men can get hard while they're drunk, asleep, scared and angry. Even if you're aroused, you might not want to have sex with that person.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 01:32 PM
1

I know others have mentioned it, but cheating should not be considered a crime. And, rape is one of the main issues that we talk about on a regular basis. So, it makes sense to share and discuss a nutty new addition to "rape culture."
/r/MensRights06/06/13 09:44 PM
1

Because "welcome to the club" is a shitty attitude to have when something bad happens to someone. It's fairly common knowledge for decent people.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 01:55 PM
5

If I remember correctly, it's more about the conservative times than date rape. He's making excuses for her because she wants to stay, but society would frown on it.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 01:08 PM
1

Is there a source for this that I missed? I can't find it in the 1997 stuff.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 04:34 PM
11

In a nonsexist society this type of rule should be completely gender neutral. It shows a complete disregard for the importance and value of fathers.
/r/MensRights01/06/13 09:49 PM
93

Just to clarify things. They basically said that if you are an MRA then you're probably gay. I thought we decided as a civilized people that this isn't an insult, and that it's childish and shitty for a person to use it as one.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 02:15 PM
2

I don't know what the point in faking this type of post would be. I just want to point out that a similar story, from the opposite perspective, was posted in 2x recently. Something along the lines of "I think my boss took an upskirt pic of me."
/r/MensRights29/05/13 03:26 PM
2

I admit that women have it hard in some areas. But it's infuriating to hear people talk about being a man like it's so much easier. You mentioned underreporting of rape as a problem women face. Did you know that most places only recently even acknowledged that men coulf even be raped? If we're going to talk about underreporting then you have to consider how many guys never tell a soul about their rape. Regarding your first point, there was a great thread in r/gainit yesterday about guys overcomi…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:49 AM
1

I'm a male, and by most feminist definitions of rape, I've been raped three times. You not fearing rape isn't a measure of anything. I also have to worry about getting someone pregnant, two people play that game. Nothing you mentioned trumps the stuff I mentioned. How can you compare creeps staring to things like higher suicide rates or lower graduation rates?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:42 AM
2

That's easy - women have lower suicide rates, lower number of work related deaths, higher graduation rates, a lower chance of being the victim of violence, and a lower chance of being homeless. Oh, and a longer life expectancy. Better?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:38 AM
1

Very few advantage or disadvantages are going to apply to all members of a group.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 02:31 AM
2

You did have to worry about higher suicide rates, higher work related deaths, lower graduation rates, higher chance of being the victim of violence, etc. Tell me again why it's harder to be a woman?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 01:43 AM
1

How is your life any easier than a woman born in the same background?
/r/MensRights29/05/13 12:48 AM
2

You know lots of women aren't held back because of their gender. That doesn't change the fact that others have been. Your anecdote doesn't change anything.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 12:47 AM
3

It's simply one example (a fairly strong one) that is meant to challenge a broad generalization. I still think you're missing the point.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 06:22 PM
5

A minute fraction of men are CEOs or high ranking politicians. That doesn't stop feminists from mentioning it on a regular basis. And men dying in wars has been a standard for more than the past 40 years. To add to that, 40 years is not long at all. There are vets today that had no choice in their participation. Those same vets make up a large percentage of the homeless population.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 04:36 PM
3

The point is that men don't have an easy time, just for being men. Women don't have an easy time either. That's pretty much it. These types of posts are more about showing issues facing men, that seem to be ignored in statements like "white male equals easy mode."
/r/MensRights28/05/13 03:58 PM
-1

It's just one example of many. Men don't have it easier. Who has it harder is debatable, but being a man does not mean that you automatically have a better life.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 03:23 PM
0

Most stats would disagree - higher suicide rates, higher work related deaths, higher percentage of homeless, lower graduation rates, similar rates of rape, etc.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 03:19 PM
3

I think you've missed the point.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 03:17 PM
1

She also could have said it wasn't murder, or an elephant, and her statement would have been just as accurate. It so clearly isn't rape, that it shouldnt even be mentioned. Regarding implied consent, when two people make out there's a strong chance that they might touch each other in places not discusses before they started. It's the nature of sexual contact. It's easy to stop and say "let's slow down, I'm not ready for this yet." People don't ask permission before everything they do in the heat…
/r/MensRights23/05/13 01:14 PM
1

The problem is that she even toyed with the idea that it was rape. She clearly thought about it and came to the conclusion that it wasn't rape. It never should have crossed her mind that it might have been. It should so obvious to her that this wasn't even remotely rape. Regarding the rest of your comment. Most make out sessions progress without stopping to discuss the next step. Most people just stop the person they're with when they aren't comfortable proceeding.
/r/MensRights23/05/13 12:46 PM
10

Do we agree that there should be laws against leading on men? I don't think so.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 12:37 PM
1

When that person shares the power. If she gave him the option of abortion or adoption and he encouraged her to go against those options.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 09:47 PM
1

I don't disagree with any of that.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 09:46 PM
8

The question is about trying to get a father involved in his kids life. There's no reason to bring up child support. Plus, we don't know the details of any of this. Even though it was an accident, they may have come to an agreement that she shouldn't get an abortion or adopt the child out. If that's the case, then he should be responsible for his child.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 12:22 PM
8

Honestly, press for sole custody. It will be at your discretion if you want to allow him custody later. Otherwise, you might end up in a situation where you're required to drop your son off with someone who doesn't want to be a proper caretaker for him.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 12:20 PM
36

It seems like this shows why rape numbers are so skewed toward women. Men are still treated as if they can't be raped.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 12:49 PM
2

Anything before you're almost unconscious? Sure. Start with that. See if you can find a case where someone drunkenly hooked up with someone and the court called it rape without the person being severely intoxicated - unable to walk or is unconscious.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 01:27 AM
2

It sounds like we're at a standoff. I'm going to provide a few examples. I'm sure you'll complain that this doesn't show the "majority," but I don't have time to go through and find an opinion from every court. However, where the complainant has voluntarily consumed even substantial quantities of alcohol, but nevertheless remains capable of choosing whether or not to have intercourse, and in drink agrees to do so, this would not be rape This one is more about contract law, but most people seem t…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 10:42 PM
1

Why don't we go back to the beginning? Show me some cases where the decision supports your initial argument that the law requires informed consent and that you can't have informed consent if you're drunk.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 05:16 PM
4

It goes beyond grading though. Boys, especially minority boys, are more likely to be suspended for minor infractions. This can lead to lower grades and higher dropout rates.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:42 PM
1

We're not in court. The burden of proof is on whoever feels like educating themself. You can say it's a lack of mental capacity, but court's are still going to hold you responsible for your actions. You don't get a free pass just because you had a few drinks.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 11:20 AM
-1

As great as that would feel, I would most likely just lose my job if I went to HR. I kind of love my job and would hate to be searching for a new one.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 11:46 PM
2

Many of us acknowledge that there are societal forces that lead women into lower paying fields - pressure as a child to do something womanly, pressure to stay home more with the kids, etc. Similar societal pressures lead men to ask for custody less - they know they're unlikely to get it without a fight, they might see the mother as a better parent, or they might legitimately believe that they can't win in family court. When you consider the state of family court, it should be clear why fathers m…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 07:35 PM
10

Not having for-profit prisons would be a great start. Another is reeducating teachers and parents to understand that they need to treat minority boys just as well as everyone else - instead of assuming the worst. Another point that my gf pushes is rewarding kids who do well, even minor things like politely asking a question should be met with praise. If an elementary school kid is acting up, it's probably for attention. When an adult screams at them for acting up, they're getting attention. If y…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 07:26 PM
41

This is kind of the answer for both questions. A good friend of mine has spent thousands of dollars and more than a year of his life trying to get custody of his daughter. His ex is clearly not fit to be a parent and he still has to fight because the assumption seems to be that she's still the mother and therefor she should have the most custody. In my daily life, I work mostly with women and I have to hear about how dumb and useless their husbands are. It's really sad to listen to them. They so…
/r/MensRights07/05/13 02:43 PM
3

Agreed. There are two areas where this does get kind of confusing. First, female rapists. Has any court denied custody to a mother because she was a rapist? If I remember correctly, there are victims paying their rapist child support. Second, if the definition of rape expands like some people would like, then someone who drunkenly has a one night stand might end up in jail, without custody, and paying child support. I don't think it's an issue now, but it could become one.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 12:06 PM
1

We're talking about the majority of states in the us. VA was just the first that popped up. Most courts have interpretted the "understanding" clause to mean basically unconscious. Do some research and you'll find multiple statute interpretations and judges opinions supporting my point. Driving while intoxicated is not the best argument to use. It basically says that drunk people are responsible for the decisions they make, which seems to be what you are arguing against. Try again.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:34 PM
-3

No. Until the child is born the mother should have control over what she does with her body (within reason). Most of us don't view abortion as the killing of a child.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 01:03 PM
3

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-67.10 Not the source of the quote, but actual criminal code from Virginia. Now, do you have a source for any of your arguments?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:14 AM
2

What law? You guys should try some actual research into this topic. Informed consent only barely applies to rape. Informed consent is basically "the absence of fraud." As long as you don't trick the person into thinking you're their spouse (or other very rare circumstances) you can just drop the "informed" part. Obviously-heavily-intoxicated people can't give valid consent. Intoxicated people can give consent. the accused knew or reasonably should have known that the alleged victim was, in fact,…
/r/MensRights04/05/13 11:27 PM
2

I'm sure it's more than that, but the numbers aren't totally accurate.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 09:33 PM
3

The upvote/downvote ratio is normally accurate. The numbers themselves are not. Reddit uses some system that changes the numbers to combat bots.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 09:26 PM
2

Mostly srs, some vote fuzzing, and a few misguided redditors.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 08:47 PM
1

Almost everyone that's been upvoted in that thread is srs. The general population is far less crazy.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 08:31 PM
10

As long as they don't ask me to pay for it, I'm fine with this.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 07:45 PM
7

The law is a lot more complicated than that. Most states require more than just being drunk. You have to be obviously drunk and the other person has to be aware of it.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 05:07 PM
5

All of the examples you gave seem to be situations where the woman is saying yes,but under false pretenses. If the guy makes her feel like she can't say no because he's been violent, then that could definitely be rape. If she says yes because she feels societal pressure to say yes, then that still has to count as a yes. The guy didn't do anything wrong.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 01:27 PM
5

The problem is, we have no way of knowing about every woman's fears and insecurities. If she says yes, and the only pressure for her was internal, then it can't be rape. She might feel like a victim, but the guy isn't a rapist.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 01:23 PM
7

Yep. I've had many arguments with people here over this. "I said yes, but I really didn't want to." "That's rape, he should have known you meant no." Luckily, our legal system still acknowledges that yes still means yes, even if the person is drunk.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 01:21 PM
2

I don't know anything about your relationship but your girlfriend sounds terrible.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 03:44 AM
15

I thought people weren't supposed to brigade on reddit. /s
/r/MensRights03/05/13 09:26 PM
3

Yes. That is correct. Even if the person is being ridiculous, that's still how it works.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 09:10 PM
6

Just because people don't have the right to dictate what others think about doesn't mean they don't want to - see SRS. If someone says "don't masturbate to my image" and I do it, I've clearly gone against their wishes. Regarding Louis CK, he has a bit where a woman is specifically against masturbation. He tells her that he's going to masturbate while thinking about her that night.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 07:40 PM
6

We all cherry pick pieces of media that fit our ideas. The same thing happened with Louis CK recently. He jokes about rape, ugly women, and masturbating to women against their wishes. He mentions how mean men are and feminist bloggers latched onto him like he was their savior. I've only watched one season of Parks and Rec. I don't think it goes out of its way to be anything but hilarious. Some of the points they make are great, but I don't think the show tries to be too political.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 05:57 PM
21

They do a nice job in the scouting episode in Season 3 or 4. Leslie sets up a group for girls because the boys group won't let girls join. Then, she refuses to let boys join and the scouts call her out for being sexist. They do a great job of pointing out the double standard there and several other times through that season.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 04:26 PM
0

I identify as both sometimes. I hate srs, radfems and anyone involved in atheism+. But, I have some really great feminist friends that agree with pretty much everything we do here. There are some terrible feminists and some great feminists. I identify as an mra/egalitarion first and feminist as a sort of distant second.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 01:15 PM
3

These lists are always so ridiculous. Ask for a source for any of it and you'll just be ignored.
/r/MensRights02/05/13 01:21 AM
6

The reason this is an mrm issue is because these threats are commonly blamed on us. This is evidence that sometimes people just make it all up.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 04:16 PM
1

Are you seriously asking if we should keep this criminal out of jail because she has a kid? I've heard this argument before, but never in defense of a man. There are three people in this story. A criminal, a victim, and a child. As much as I want the child to not suffer, I'm not willing to punish the victim or ignore the criminal act to keep it from happening.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 01:21 PM
1

I totally agree. I was one of the people in the other thread warning people. I just also know that these rules are selectively applied, and rarely to srs.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 09:18 PM
26

Even some of srs thinks robotanna is too crazy. /r/ainbow is better for civil discussion and support.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:02 PM
5

He's not replying to most of the favoritism accusations.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 11:50 AM
2

People don't usually cite common knowledge. Example: It's cold in Antarctica. (No citation needed)
/r/MensRights26/04/13 11:50 AM
7

I don't think sending the admin messages about our goals would help. They've praised srs and demonized mensrights enough to know their agenda. I do agree that we need to just accept the rule though. Until something better comes along, we're kind of stuck here.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 11:44 AM
7

The problem is that the confessions aren't "I raped you and I'm sorry." They're more like "I guess you see me as your rapist." Based on her story, it sounds like he raped her. But, I would like to hear her story. On a side note, my girlfriend has commented on how rapey she gets sometimes. That's not her admitting to being a rapist though.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 12:03 AM
1

Weird. Maybe it means verbal threats that lead to sex. Meaning, a verbal threat is enough to constitute threat of force. Just a guess. I've never heard of a threat being enough alone. It's always possible.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 03:12 PM
2

Attempt normally requires more than just a threat.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 02:18 PM
1

There will rarely be proof. You don't have to put someone in prison, but you shouldn't treat someone looking for support as a liar.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 02:17 PM
8

This post touches on pretty much everything that would annoy us. It's most likely just a troll.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 04:06 PM
3

The law is intended to keep adults from taking advantage of children. It isn't meant to protect kids from kids.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 01:03 PM
3

The problem is that the law exists at all. This is exactly why some state's have Romeo and Juliet exceptions.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 01:01 PM
1

SRS leaked all over that thread.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 12:23 PM
22

He's saying that you have no idea who really posted the blog. It could be the person whose name is connected with it. Or, it could be some troll and you could be harassing an innocent person who doesn't even know her information is there.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 02:06 PM
2

Srssucks claims anon already did their thing and found out it was fake.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 12:46 PM
3

The post there now sounds fairly clearly like rape. The girl said no and the guy just did it anyway, multiple times. There have been one or two on there that weren't considered rape. It's rare, but it happens.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 09:48 PM
4

I definitely agree. I just want to make it clear that it's not women, it's shitty people.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 05:12 PM
3

I don't hate many people, but I hate whoever started this bullshit.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 04:19 PM
12

Women don't think like this. Radfems think like this. A similar comment was made in 2x yesterday and was met with many downvotes.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 04:16 PM
-1

This is another post that seems to be assigning roles to men. We don't have to fit into these little boxes to be men. Did something happen that I missed or are we just being trolled more lately?
/r/MensRights17/04/13 03:43 AM
4

Identifying heros as "real men" is kind of the opposite of what we'd like to do. He's a great person/man. But, his actions don't make him a "real man."
/r/MensRights16/04/13 05:01 PM
0

So clever.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 04:58 PM
1

This isn't helpful. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to convey.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 12:30 PM
1

It is common for them to get thrown out. Any guy getting married needs to hire an attorney to write one. And this needs to happen at the beginning of the engagement. The prenup needs to identify every bit of wealth both people have. The girlfriend needs her own attorney. Make the prenup fair - both parties need to leave with something and be able to support themselves. If you do all of that then you have a chance. If you fuck up at any step then it's probably getting thrown out.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:57 AM
2

I just love how SRS seems to have adopted this author as an ally even though 90% of this would be a front page post on SRS if the topic were anything other than us.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 01:35 PM
2

I totally agree. I just keep seeing people complain about our views without posting any examples. Claiming that we're anti-choice one of the more ridiculous.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 12:29 PM
2

You're talking about Christians who are anti-abortion, not MRAs. If we had an official stance I believe it would be pro-choice. I've never seen anyone argue from a mens rights perspective against abortion.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 02:56 AM
3

Who here is against women's right to choose?
/r/MensRights15/04/13 01:43 AM
1

What is an MHRA?
/r/MensRights15/04/13 01:03 AM
3

I think most people here are referring to talking to feminists or even srsers. Whenever I have a discussion, with someone who isn't one of the above, it goes very well. They're normally surprised by what I'm telling them, but they're generally receptive. If it is a feminist or srser then all of the evidence I provide will never persuade them.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 01:44 PM
-2

It's a good thing that I don't care if you listen. If you want to know specifics then do some research.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 10:03 PM
0

I don't have any examples. I just studied this stuff and at least a handful of courts have acknowledged it as a defense.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 07:52 PM
1

Some courts are more open to treating a mistake as a valid defense. So, it's not a total lost cause.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 07:25 PM
0

Steubenville was a national tragedy. The way men are treated doesn't change that. Otherwise, I agree.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 07:23 PM
3

I don't understand the mens rights connection. Was he an mra? Is the deletion being blamed on mra?
/r/MensRights13/04/13 02:46 PM
5

Some people try really hard to discredit us. Most people here don't like feminists. Some people see that as anti-woman, when it really is just anti-feminist. They're not always the same thing. The hate group stuff is just grasping at straws. Any intelligent person can see right through that lie.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 10:31 PM
2

I don't understand the relevance to men's rights or atheism. What am I missing?
/r/MensRights11/04/13 02:42 AM
27

They define men's problems as issues that impact women. If they really cared about men's issues then it should be enough that we're suffering. They shouldn't have to justify caring about something by showing how it negatively impacts women somehow. It's insulting. I'd also love to see any specific examples of how they address these issues for men.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:46 PM
8

You really don't have to qualify your title. You don't get a membership card or anything like that for posting. You don't have to be an MRA or even like us to post here.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:18 PM
6

The title you've chosen for this post is just terrible. It sounds like you're celebrating her death and gloating about the conditions of her life.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 10:04 PM
4

This reads a lot like the "11 signs you're talking to an MRA." It got posted and we rarely or never say 90% of what was on the list. It's like they just make stuff up and hope people will believe them.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 07:59 PM
3

I'm fine with them creating an "ulimate evil" as long as they don't use it as an excuse to never/rarely talk about men's issues. But, that's exactly what they do. Women's issues get attention in every form. Men's issues are disregarded as patriarchy.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 01:30 PM
5

The problem with her logic is that it doesn't even consider that women can rape men. If you apply the same rules that men follow to women then I've been raped 3 times. Once while asleep, once while drunk and another when I told the person to stop and she didn't. Many of my guy friends have experienced similar situations. If you gave men the same survey that says 1 in 4 women have been raped then you'd get similar numbers for men.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 12:45 PM
2

Ah. I thought you bought an ad and someone else had to place it. Thanks for clearing that up.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:53 PM
4

It seems like a gross abuse of power to be placing ads like this.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:47 PM
36

I'm not that new to the movement and I do think some feminists are open to constructive debate. Not all, or even most, but some.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 04:02 PM
5

If it's a matter of unity and commitment then ask him to change his last name to yours. Or consider a hyphenated name for both of you. Either way, don't feel forced to follow the tradition.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 03:59 PM
0

Option 3 is probably the best. That being said, in theory your custody rights are equal to hers. Denying you access to your child is kidnapping. Good luck getting a court to see it that way (in this situation) though
/r/MensRights07/04/13 04:42 PM
0

Option #1: Show up at her place and ask for your daughter. When she doesn't let you take your daughter, I'd call the police and ask them to write up a report that says that you are where you're supposed to be, when you're supposed to be there. You would like to take your daughter on your day, but your wife is refusing. Do not tell your ex that you are going to call the police. Option #2: You could also start out by calling the police. "I am dealing with custody issues and my wife has threatened …
/r/MensRights07/04/13 02:35 PM
5

Maybe it's time to add a debate sub. Use this one to post news and requests for help.Use the other to debate and explain things to curious redditors.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:37 PM
8

I agree that we shouldn't dox people. I'm not sure posting someone's other youtube rants counts as doxxing. The blog is closer though.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:32 PM
-1

There are better subs for this - r/mensrants or the r/ineedfeminismbecause. We don't need this kind of content here.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:24 PM
0

Do you have anything in writing/text about tomorrow being a day for you? Edit: Just saw the other post. If you have a 50/50 agreement and tomorrow is your day then you should be allowed to take your daughter. If she refuses to give her to you then call the police.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:13 PM
12

If you asked someone who believes that you can never consent while drunk then you'd likely get a response like this: the person who feels like they were raped was raped. If they both feel that then they were both raped. Both could press charges if they wanted to. Or, they'd argue that only women can be raped. It would depend on the level of crazy.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 01:14 AM
1

Everyone? Damn.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 11:31 PM
1

For equality where it's possible. Men and women are different, neither is better than the other.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 11:28 PM
14

It's kind of the definition of rape. I don't think she deserves prison time for it, but it is fucked up that she didn't accept your 'no.'
/r/MensRights06/04/13 02:50 PM
3

I'd say pulling the fire alarm during a speech is fairly clearly silencing. I'm not sure what definition wouldn't include an act intended to disrupt someone as silencing.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 08:40 PM
4

Silencing someone is kind of the opposite of free speech.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 08:07 PM
6

What's the quote about them ignoring us, then hating us, then fighting us...
/r/MensRights05/04/13 01:52 PM
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But MRAs can't just stop at "the feminists aren't letting us!" and give up there...The fact that you all keep bringing up these examples instead of saying "Damn it, we need to do better" just helps to support my main point. You'd rather be angry at feminists (whether it's justified or not) than actually do something concrete to help men. Just because it's something we talk about, that doesn't mean we're giving up. What makes you think that's what we're doing? Many of us are going into areas wher…
/r/MensRights04/04/13 11:58 PM
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I don't have time to respond to everything. Most of us are relatively new to the movement. We haven't had time to do much of anything. If you've been watching this sub then you'd see the growth in subscribers that started about a year ago. We're gaining membership and we are becoming bolder. I am working toward something that might make a difference for guys in my area. You mention academia and talk about our excuses. How do you justify the actions of feminists at the university of toronto? Does…
/r/MensRights04/04/13 10:44 PM
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Fathers/husbands rights mostly. Male rape and false accusations as well, but less so. I the anger is holding us back. If we just stuck to the facts then we'd win every argument. I also think the anti-feminist language alienates us from some supporters.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 07:48 PM
3

This is a weird post. The op isn't an MRA and is most likely just baiting responses like yours.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 03:29 PM
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We were planning on it before, but this just added some major incentive.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 04:44 PM
2

Meh. People do commit rape. And, Steubenville kids are a great example of people defending rapists to the bitter end, just because they're athletes. In the video the guy admits to it. Otherwise, I'd have a problem with them referring to him as a rapist, especially after the charges were dropped.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 03:10 PM
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Holy shit! This is already my team. My dad and I are planning on getting season tickets this year. I can't wait!
/r/MensRights03/04/13 03:03 PM
3

Does the girl go to your school? That's where she might cause you the most harm. That and with your friends/job. Talk to your friends, tell them what happened. Try to get a friend to organize a meeting with her. Maybe having a mutual friend will make her feel safer. See if she understands what happened and if she understands that she wasn't raped. Record the entire thing.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 10:04 PM
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In one the title refers to the sign as shaming. The other title exclaims surprise that the woman is receiving any negative feedback.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 01:50 AM
2

Lastly, A quick point about feminists supporting the rights of men. Here. Acknowledging that problems exist isn't the same as supporting the rights of men. Can you link to some specific examples of feminism supporting the rights of men? I know there are at least one or two out there. I'd like to see if you have more.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 01:51 PM
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A lot of us don't care what you call it, if you're addressing men's issues. You can blame family court bias on koalas if you like. I don't care, as long as you acknowledge the bias and want it to change. The problem most of us have with "patriarchy causes men's problems" is that it doesn't change anything. If I bring up a men's issue in a feminist forum I'm going to be pushed out for mansplaining, what about the menzing, derailing or any other weird reason. They actively do not want to talk abou…
/r/MensRights29/03/13 05:39 PM
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I think most of us have a problem with the term "never" in ops post. Boys do face similar pressures to obtain crazy physical goals. And, reddit might be 5% naked women. There's a hell of a lot more here.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 01:22 PM
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Victims of abuse are often encouraged to make this kind of exit. "Pack everything up and just leave, don't give him a chance to talk you into staying or abuse you any further." She was abusive and he finally got away from her.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 07:12 PM
1

I'm pretty sure you can just look up the fbi stats on violent crime. It should break it all down by crime and by gender.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:56 AM
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I think you misunderstand the term whoosh.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:31 PM
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Spellcheck doesn't recognize most of the made up words sjw's use. I'm not sure this is the best argument for you to use.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:13 PM
1

When fathers don't have to bankrupt themselves to get half custody, or more, of their children.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 03:35 PM
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No, but that doesn't change the fact that we also don't need to know the name of the accuser.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:32 PM
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This is a bizarre rule. They should just give each gender winner $50k and call it a day.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 01:59 AM
1

This actually comes up a lot. I've heard people say that it's so the accused gets a fair trial - which is horseshit. I've also heard that it's so other victims can come forward, which is a legitimate reason. But, it feels weird. Like we're putting up this person and asking the world if he did any other horrible things we should know about. It feels a lot like a witch hunt.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 01:55 AM
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Not being able to remember what happened doesn't matter so much when there are witnesses and confessions. Flirting also doesn't really change anything. Drinking would only change things if she was concious enough to give any kind of consent. It sounds like she was basically lifeless when everything went down.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 08:18 PM
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It's hard to keep track of all of it. I believe there's video of someone reacting to it happening, telling the guys to stop and commenting on how she was basically dead when they started on her.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 07:58 PM
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Based on everything I've read, it sounds like they raped her. There's all kinds of evidence pointing to it being rape, not consensual sex.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 07:43 PM
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I'm dating someone now who has the potential to make more than me. It's a nonissue for me.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:33 PM
3

Then you did the right thing. You don't really have to find a place to hide. Just ignore it and go about your day.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 10:00 PM
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It really depends on the relationship. Good friend - tell her. Pretty much everyone else - ignore it.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 09:50 PM
5

It sounds like the article is more of a warning that young boys can be susceptible to this kind of thing. Not really a bad article, as far as I can tell .
/r/MensRights15/03/13 02:39 PM
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No. There are some other posts that explain why. You might be able to find them with a search.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 02:30 PM
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It might be for equal rights but considering all the flack we get for bringing up men - see mansplaining, derailing, and "what about the menz" - it should be easy to understand why we don't rely on feminism to fix our problems.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 02:22 PM
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The problem with abandonment and adoption applying to both the mother and the father is that there is no requirement that the mother name the father. So, she can easily bypass the father's rights by just leaving that line blank. If the best interest of the child was adoption, but the mother didn't want to give up her child, would you force her to?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 02:34 PM
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There is. It's the same legal basis for adoption and abandonment.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 01:48 PM
1

Of course. I was just pointing out the relevance. Mentioning false accusations doesn't negate the existence of true accusations.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 12:50 PM
2

Why?
/r/MensRights13/03/13 12:05 AM
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To me, it's more of an example of what can happen to the falsely accused. What if the guy didn't do anything. All of a sudden he's being beaten and raped because some guy believes his girlfriend's story.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 12:00 AM
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Yep. If true, this is a perfect example of how terrible a false accusation can be for a person.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 11:56 PM
2

I've seen a few people claim to be banned from here. When asked for any kind of proof they just get flustered. As far as I know, we only ban aggressive trolls.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 03:19 PM
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Are you asking about the joke part or the idea that people might be rapists without knowing it? If it's the latter then it might be true depending on how you define rape. I imagine that the person you're arguing with has a very broad definition, while yours is probably limited and narrow. It's difficult to have a debate on the topic without first defining rape.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:57 PM
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Just understand that they will. I'm not going to debate marriage with you.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:08 PM
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Men are going to continue getting married. It's foolish to think otherwise. If they want to be protected then they need to be meticulous. Otherwise it'll just get thrown out.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:04 PM
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This is why you have to follow a long set of rules when you get a prenup. It has to be clear that it was voluntarily signed.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 05:28 PM
3

75%? The real question is, what magical kingdom do you live in?
/r/MensRights11/03/13 02:03 PM
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Didn't we have an article last week where a court found a guy guilty of rape because he lied about wearing a condom? Op should look into this when she has the abortion.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 01:51 PM
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I think you missed the part about the kids being someone else's.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 05:27 PM
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You are reading way too much into my example. I've already explained that I understand that more rapes happen by acquaintances and that stranger rape is less common. It still makes up about a third of all rapes though. Nothing I've said enables rape or rape culture. That's just ridiculous.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 01:45 PM
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A friend of mine was mugged like this and I've read several cases where rapes occurr under similar circumstances. It's not the most common but it does happen.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 01:35 PM
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I think it's good advice. Your assumption seems to be that people know better. I can speak from experience that they do not. "Women wouldn't be raped so much if they stayed out of dark alleys." - clearly offensive "Some crime could be avoided by staying out of dangerous areas, including dark alleys." I don't think this should be seen as offensive.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 01:26 PM
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I was just using that as an example. No implication or assumption regarding women's intelligence. The same advice goes out to men. It's generally a bad idea to go down dark alleys with strangers. I understand that most rapes are committed by people you know. The alley reference obviously wouldn't apply to those situations.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 01:15 PM
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where the safety of a woman entirely rests in her hands, and if somehow she gets raped, she has failed herself. I'll never understand the outrage that stems from "victim blaming." Most of the time it's common sense - don't wander down dark alleys with strangers.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 12:08 PM
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"I did not want to go all the way and told him so." The way it sounds is she said this while they were making out. She might have said it earlier. The point is she did say it. Out loud.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 11:14 AM
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I didn't say he raped her, I have no idea what happened. I'm just saying that the mind reader argument is null because she did say no.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:53 AM
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The problem here is that she said no and he kept on anyway.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:11 AM
3

MacFarlane Said It Was Fine That No One Could Understand Selma Hayek, Because All They Want to Do Is Look at Her Actually, he said that Selma Hayek, Penelope Cruz, and Javier Bardem are all attractive. How can a gender neutral comment that includes men and women somehow become sexist?
/r/MensRights25/02/13 08:47 PM
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I want to ask of /r/MensRights, what is our official position with regard to aligning ourselves with such racist groups. Do we have one? If not, should we have one? I for one do not feel comfortable aligning myself with such racist entities. We definitely shouldn't align ourselves with racist groups. Allowing some members to join here is hardly us aligning ourselves with their cause. Everyone is welcome to come and have honest discussions with us. If we don't like what they're saying then they'l…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 05:55 PM
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No, you didn't stop reading? Or, no you won't try to be intelligent about the way you handle posting?
/r/MensRights25/02/13 05:44 PM
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You seem interested in the cause, yet you have no interest in discussion. A big part of the movement is bringing people in by making them understand our points. If you just dismiss those who disagree then you're not going to get very far and you're going to be more damaging for the movement than anything else.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 05:42 PM
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Did you stop reading after you saw that I agreed with RDarkLord? When you post a video, try to be intelligent about it. Explain why you're posting it. Otherwise it just comes off as petty and pointless.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 05:39 PM
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That would be an issue for OP's attorney to figure out. When I write mine, it will include spousal support. I'd rather pay out a short period than have some judge tell me I'm being unfair and null the prenup.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 05:12 PM
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This isn't SRS. You need to be able to back up your claims, even with especially with people you disagree with.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:24 PM
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I agree with RDarkLord, simply posting a video of a woman being violent does nothing to help us. If you post a video like that, then please accompany it with a well thought out explanation of it's relevance. Link to comments that show bias if you can.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 04:24 PM
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I don't. I'm sure cases are out there. This is just based on what I've read recently and the rules in my state. Check out the Scherer test. I should add, have multiple peoplr witness the final document and sign it. Add a clause that specifically says that the doc is in "contemplation of divorce."
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:26 PM
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Basic rules for a prenup: Each of you needs your own attorney. You both need to disclose your assets fully and honestly with each other, including earning potential and family assets. It should be written well in advance of a wedding. It should be "fair" in the eyes of a court. "Spousal support will be paid out at a rate of X dollars per month for one year, or until the supported spouse remarries (whichever comes first)." This keeps you from paying alimony indefinitely but shows that you're will…
/r/MensRights25/02/13 06:52 AM
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It sounds like you have shared custody - 50/50 (or near it). If that's the case, then your best bet is to argue that the kids are settled where they are and to move them would be detrimental. If she wants to move then by all means, but she'll be the one with limited visitation. They're established in school, they have doctors they're comfortable with, and their friends live there. It doesn't make sense for the kids to go with her when their lives are where you are. Collect and organize all of th…
/r/MensRights20/02/13 06:02 AM
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I rarely see people people ranting about guys on reddit. If anything, I see more people complaining about women and defenders being called white knights. If you're interested in cutting off dating altogether then consider the MGTOW movement.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 05:37 AM
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Seriously, how could anyone think that was a win for the troll. Almost everyone was incredibly supportive. If it was a troll then I'd say it was a win for us. "Look at those silly MRA's offering support to this guy that lost his son."
/r/MensRights19/02/13 01:01 PM
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It happens in many countries. It seems like a natural extension of pregnancy. You're not able to work as much, so you get paid less. But, an exception is made to fix the natural inequality created by pregnancy, because it's not fair to the woman. It's all about fairness to the mother.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 03:45 PM
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That wasn't really the question. Do you think it would be fair to pay women less because of pregnancy?
/r/MensRights18/02/13 03:22 PM
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Do you think it's fair to pay a woman less because she might get, or is planning on getting, pregnant? Another natural aspect of pregnancy is missing days, weeks or months of work.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 02:59 PM
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The problem is, you see this as a cruel decision by the father against the child. It's a decision made against the mother, not the child. It would be made with enough time for the mother to decide to keep, abort or adopt the child. All three options would be available. But, you want to say that it isn't fair . Who is it not fair for? Not the child, it doesn't exist. And even when it does, there are still options. So it's an argument of it not being fair to the mother. But, that completely ignore…
/r/MensRights18/02/13 02:57 PM
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If the front page was full of teddy bears and gumdrops then we wouldn't need the subreddit. There are other male centered subs that are more about guys in general than the issues we deal with. Try r/oney or r/askmen if you're just looking for male related subs.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 04:14 AM
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That's just one of those topics that is extremely touchy. Abortion is really the only way the guy is getting out of this without paying a couple hundred thousand dollars. If she doesn't get one, then I agree, he should try to be a good father. Kids need positive role models and his mother clearly isn't going to be one.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 04:17 PM
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Most of us are pro choice. You're not gonna get a lot of love here with pro life arguments.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 03:36 PM
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I completely disagree. You shouldn't be allowed to commit crimes without facing some punishment, other than personal guilt.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 06:08 PM
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Do you sincerely believe that she is a danger to most men and society in general? Because really, if the answer to that is no then trying to report her is only being vindictive. He's not likely to get very far in court, but this is seriously fucked up advice. Do you seriously think that someone shouldn't be punished for something simply because they aren't likely to do it again?
/r/MensRights16/02/13 03:06 PM
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Absolutely report it. Things can't get better unless people start sticking up for themselves.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 03:05 PM
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A shorter, more focused list would read better I think. Focus on twenty or thirty true privileges.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 03:04 PM
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You've been preaching about the guy being the kid's father. If he wanted custody you wouldn't give it to him? But it's fine making him pay?
/r/MensRights16/02/13 01:51 AM
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That's what I said. If he won't be the kid's dad, at least you can make him pay. It's a fucked up mentality. He helped the kid and now he's screwed. Moral of the story, paternity test always and never date single moms.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 01:43 AM
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I disagree. Again, you can't force him to be a father anymore than you can deny a mother's right to put a kid up for adoption. So you're basically saying "he helped pay for the kid for a while, let's just make him keep paying." If he wasn't around then who would be paying?
/r/MensRights16/02/13 12:26 AM
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Biology and lack of consent to adopt are what make him not the child's father.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 11:03 PM
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Yes he can. All you can do is force him to pay. Which has nothing to do with bonding.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 10:18 PM
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The problem isn't that women make less, it's that they generally earn less. The phrasing should be "On average women generally earn 23 cents on the dollar less than men." Using the term 'make', implies equality in work. Then you end up with things like this.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 04:09 AM
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The goals are fairly gender specific. We want equality, but our focus is on men's issues. Feminism focuses on women's issues. You can have male feminists and female MRAs. The gender of the individual doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 03:46 AM
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Is it really false? It's false when you combine this statement: “I ask this Congress to declare that women should earn a living equal to their efforts.” with this one: “on average women generally make 23 cents on the dollar less than men.” The implication is that women get paid 23 cents less for equal work. That's not the case. As you pointed out, they make less, but not for equal work.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 03:44 AM
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None of us are perfect. It's great that you recognize the issues that your dad is facing here. That's definitely commendable and we do appreciate it.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:22 PM
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I'll admit, though, that if he did, say, hit her in the same way she hits him, with the same force and with her not really being hurt by it, I'd be pissed. Yes, that's a little bit biased of me. I'm not perfect, unfortunately. That's kind of the whole point of this sub. You see violence against your dad and just think "he can take it, he's tough." But, equal violence against your mom becomes offensive. Abuse is abuse.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:09 PM
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She'll hit him a few times - never, ever doing damage, but enough to irritate him, particularly as he can't hit back. This is pretty clear domestic abuse. Would you call the police if your dad was pushing your mom around? Or, if he was hitting her, but not enough to "do damage?"
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:01 PM
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I think you're going to be hard pressed to get much of a response. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't identify with r/whiterights at all. When I consider gender equality there are clear areas where men benefit over women and women benefit over men. If you look at race, there are very few areas where any non-white individuals really benefit because of their race. non-white immigrants going to white countries and bringing in their own culture/making the white not as powerful in society. The s…
/r/MensRights12/02/13 06:54 PM
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Interesting. I'll try to find the original post later. Thanks
/r/MensRights11/02/13 02:35 PM
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I believe the punishment for contempt is a fine. Bail is meant to guarantee that the person is going to stay in the state. But, it is regularly used to get a quick plea deal. People can't afford bail, sit in jail for months or years waiting on their trial, eventually they just have to plea out because that's their only option. On top of all of that, the judge should have ordered her appointed counsel. He doesn't because she has jewelry. So ridiculous. This judge is a big part of why I hate the l…
/r/MensRights11/02/13 01:25 PM
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Seems reasonable.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 09:20 PM
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As long as you're not expecting her to do those things because of her gender then it's fine. Split the duties however you see fit.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 09:01 PM
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Feminism advocates gender equality, so I don't see why people dislike it so much. I actually just made a post on this topic somewhere else. Feminism means something different to so many people. It can mean total annihilation of men to the most extreme, or gender equality at the other end. The former is basically a joke, but there are feminists who just laugh at the idea that men face any type of issue. The recent twitter fiasco is a great example of that. People who identify as feminists are jok…
/r/MensRights10/02/13 02:50 PM
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It's only happened to me in 2x and srsd. So that could explain the overuse of the word. I've never heard the term outside of the internet .
/r/MensRights10/02/13 03:08 AM
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Feminists say "we're addressing men's issues" then they bombard us with "your issues don't matter, stop whining." Then they complain about the fact that we aren't just feminists. It's pretty clear that everyone posting this kind of thing on twitter couldn't give two shits about any issues men face. Next time you wonder why we don't just all convert to feminism just try to remember these comments. You had an opportunity here to embrace some of the complaints we have. Instead you just kept mocking…
/r/MensRights10/02/13 02:20 AM
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The concept of mansplaining is real. So is womandplaining. They both sound so idiotic. But, people do see the opposite gender as lessers fairly often. One of my coworkers treats her husband like a retarded monkey. He's a mechanical engineer, but "boys are dumb." I know the opposite is true. Guys do sometimes treat women like they don't know what they're talking about. The term mansplaining has been abused to the point of being meaningless. It's just a defense mechanism now.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 12:47 AM
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I hope someone's collecting screenshots. There's some pretty hateful stuff being said.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 12:16 AM
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Thanks for the insightful comment.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 12:14 AM
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Many times. Normally I just take it as my cue that the person I'm trying to carry on a conversation with is a moron. Shutting someone down because of their gender seems fairly counter to equality.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 11:45 PM
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There was a great explanation in the original r/videos post. The comtempt charge was fine. The increase in bail was not. The purpose of bail is supposed to only be to make sure the person shows up. Any other use of bail is abuse of power. Here, the judge uses it as punishment. He's a scumbag and one of the reasons why people have to plea out so often instead of getting their day in court.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 07:15 PM
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This situation is weird because the judge overstepped his power here. If he didn't revoke it then he'd probably be more likely to come under investigation. The judge here is a scumbag.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 04:33 PM
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Most of the time someone asks about our ideas regarding the gay and trans community the post ends up being extremely positive. If you care about any of the issues that we talk about then we want you here.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 01:21 PM
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My girlfriend is surprised when I thank her for being rational. This is why I do it. Fuck any person that thinks like this.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 10:02 PM
3

Why?
/r/MensRights07/02/13 09:29 PM
10

If possible, you should let her know what it meant to you.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 03:35 PM
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We need to put together a study that shows how men and women view this issue. In OneY it seems pretty clear that men deserve to know if their kid is theirs. In 2x the opinion is more that it doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 02:16 PM
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Poe's law becomes difficult to apply to srs. SRSwomen is a real subreddit.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 03:33 AM
2

Context?
/r/MensRights04/02/13 08:15 PM
6

Do you feel this way because you believe it's impossible for a man to be sexually assaulted by a woman? Or that it doesn't happen?
/r/MensRights04/02/13 08:12 PM
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There was a post in 2x last week that basically said "abortions should be treated like the common cold, it should be routine." I really wanted to call the op out on it. It should be easy for her to agree with guys having a say, if they're really not a big deal. I knew they'd tear me to shreds arguing that he made a choice to have sex and abortions are traumatic. The tone changes in an instant when the fathers rights are mentioned.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 05:33 PM
1

Legal paternal surrender is what we typically call it.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 12:41 PM
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I'm all for having this argument. Men really have near zero reproductive rights. But, I don't know it this was the thread for it. She has every right to give birth once she's pregnant. What I want men to have the option of is "legal paternal surrender." Guys shouldn't be stuck supporting a family that they gave no consent in creating. If she wants to have the baby without his support then I totally support that decision. It's when the government or the mother starts asking for money when I have …
/r/MensRights01/02/13 03:27 AM
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Honestly, it sounds like you have things under control. Just maintain yourself as an upstanding citizen and be friendly with your ex as long as you can stand it. That's about all you can do right now.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 10:01 PM
2

I also get nervous when I'm walking around at night. I don't do it very often though.
/r/MensRights31/01/13 07:19 PM
1

It's ridiculous that this still happens. But why do men continue to donate like this? If you have to do it then go through normal steps. Otherwise you will be screwed.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:03 PM
16

You couldn't pay me enough to teach anything below college level. It's just way too dangerous.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 01:55 PM
5

What do you mean loses? Like, it fell out of his pocket while he was on his way to work? Or, like some child was online and came across it? If it's the latter, then it's the responsibility of the kids parents to keep the kid from seeing porn. What he did was illegal, but only because the law is ridiculous in it's current form. Just like I'm not anymore likely to shoot someone because I play video games, this guy is no more likely to rape a child because he looks at cartoon porn. In fact, it prob…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:31 AM
7

I totally disagree. If anything, this provides the pedophile with an outlet for his sexual orientation that harms no one. Instead of looking at picture of real children, who were taken advantage of to get pictures, the guy is looking at drawn kids. No one is hurt. If kids get a hold of the comic and start touching each other, then their parents probably need to get involved and stop being shitty parents who let their kids look at porn.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 03:14 AM
7

when it comes down to it even though it's cartoon, it's a cartoon that shows kids fucking. just because it's a cartoon doesn't excuse it. Why doesn't it excuse it? Who's harmed in a cartoon?
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:50 AM
7

I think most of us would say that the law is just wrong if it includes cartoon children. The purpose of the law is to protect children. There are no children here to protect. In fact, if all they found was cartoon images, then it sounds like the guy might have found an adequate outlet for his illness. Sentencing someone to three years in prison for this does nothing but hurt the guy and the community. The guy is going to be so much worse off than he was before he went in emotionally, financially…
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:42 AM
25

Agreed. "Stop calling us a hate group, or we'll fuck your shit up," is not the best way to handle this.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 10:54 PM
2

That doesn't make any sense. How is this at all an infringement on mens rights?
/r/MensRights27/01/13 08:47 PM
3

I don't understand the relevance. He thinks it's a violent/dangerous sport. It is. Is this a mensrights issue?
/r/MensRights27/01/13 08:14 PM
8

However, a complicated split on the court led to a narrow 5-4 vote in favour of leaving the unconstitutional law intact. How is the law unconstitutional? If you're married, you have marital protection. If you're not, then you don't.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 06:27 PM
5

Ok. I'm not sure how one thread shows that we're transphobic . Or how feminism would be the answer. But you're free to leave if you like.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 06:20 PM
15

I read the bit about female privilege. They call it benevolent sexism. It makes no fucking sense. Why isn't male privilege just benevolent sexism?
/r/MensRights24/01/13 09:33 PM
24

In that thread: problems facing women are terrible good things that happen to women are terrible (twisting an acquittal for the woman into some type of male privilege) *problems facing men are warranted because of years of oppression/patriarchy (it's all our fault)
/r/MensRights23/01/13 04:59 PM
2

I think something like that exists somewhere. I definitely agree that it should. The point that I'm trying to get across though, is that the system is stacked against fathers in most cases. If the father doesn't want a child - doesn't matter, he has to pay. If the father wants to share custody - doesn't matter, he has to pay. I believe that custody should be split evenly by default. Then, the mother or father should be able to fight the equal custody if the other is abusive, a drug addict, or so…
/r/MensRights23/01/13 04:34 AM
2

If you're pro life and are against adoption against the fathers consent, then I support your opinion here. I totally disagree and think you're wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion. The times when I have a problem are when the opinion is "men should be responsible" but "women are heroes if they exercise their right to not be responsible."
/r/MensRights23/01/13 04:04 AM
2

That's a really weird way of seeing things. "It's only wrong if the father does it." It's not uncommon. Just strange to me. you can't leave em hangin, fight for custody if you have to ( which I think exempts you from child support..I think) It does not. You can fight, you can fight hard. But, unless you're given equal custody then you're going to be paying child support. If you're given 40% custody then you pay child support. A good friend of mine is still in a battle with his ex over custody. S…
/r/MensRights23/01/13 03:31 AM
2

But, only if you're the father?
/r/MensRights23/01/13 02:42 AM
18

I'm just referring to how that decision is treated by the general public, not how I feel. I've seen people argue that it's always her choice. Her body, her choice - even after the child is born.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 01:15 AM
2

They get more of a say because they are allowed more opportunities. The opportunity to abort is biological. However, the opportunity to put the child up for adoption is purely created by the government. We're asking for a similar allowance.
/r/MensRights23/01/13 12:20 AM
4

If someone brings you to court for child support there's a rebuttable presumption that you're the father. You can present evidence that you aren't, and a paternity test can be that evidence. But, if you've been supporting the child that isn't yours then you're going to be stuck supporting it for the next several years. So, you have no real right to know if the child is yours and you are obligated to pay for it if it isn't. Sound fair?
/r/MensRights23/01/13 12:18 AM
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Wouldn't that hurt them to know their father just 'opted out' I think we've already established that this shouldn't be an issue, unless you want to get rid of adoption as an option. But, you still get the argument that the father owes the child. So, here are the steps: Man and woman have sex. Woman gets pregnant. Man gets woman pregnant. (whichever works for you) Woman decides not to abort. - No problem, that's her choice. Woman (and man) decide not to give the child up for adoption. - No proble…
/r/MensRights22/01/13 11:20 PM
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Look at the front page. The top voted article is one where a woman was acquitted after hiring a hit man to kill her husband. The reasoning? She was abused. The evidence? She said she was abused. The main issue for me is the way men are treated in family courts. A good friend of mine is still fighting for equal custody, even thoughhis ex is a drug addict who brings other drug addicts around their daughter. Why? Because family courts favor mothers
/r/MensRights22/01/13 07:28 PM
14

Domestic violence is a pattern of abusive behavior used by the abuser to gain or maintain control over the victim. This is how I've heard this kind of thing justified. Men have all the power so any violence from the woman can only be violence, not abuse. So, women are victims of abuse 90% of the time. The men are just victims of general violence.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 05:44 PM
1

I don't disagree with that. I disagree with the idea that men should provide for children and girlfriends/wives.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 11:28 PM
3

I imagine the usual one between a man and a woman when they have kids. Eric seems to have kept his end. So, the usual would be that a woman has kids and a man provides for her and the kids? I think I see where we're having the disconnect. I think two people have kids and neither owes the other for that fact.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 10:19 PM
3

How was there a contract? What would the terms have been? Did she not benefit from having the kids? I disagree. So, we can infer, did Eric. You're inferring that because he was providing for her. Why does that create an obligation to continue providing for her? Could it not have just been that he was being kind in his actions? And now he's being punished for that kindness.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 09:20 PM
5

You act like they had a contract and she met her end - having kids. Very weird. She doesn't deserve anything for having kids. The kids deserve support from their father. But that's it.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 08:45 PM
11

I was one of those people. I think a lot of us were. I condemned r/mensrights and praised feminism. Then a discussion started on fathers rights. People said, and were upvoted, that a mother shouldnt be forced to tell the father they even were a father. They went on about how men should take responsibility for getting women pregnant. That's when I realized that feminism couldn't give two shits about men. It made me question my opinion of /mr and I'm glad it did.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 10:45 PM
5

People are more likely to get worked up when they think something bad is happening to women. If you show them the same stats for men then they'll just shrug it off. But, when you get them worked up and pull the blindfold off they have no choice but to think "why did my emotions calm when th victims were men?" It helps show the double standard in a way that almost forces the reader to acknowledge it. At least that's my theory.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 03:18 PM
1

What am I missing here? What was the first comment in reference to?
/r/MensRights17/01/13 04:57 PM
14

The purity and innocence arguments are just wrong. So there's no real way to address that. It's just sexist. If the argument is that women can get pregnant or injured during rape then a guy who has a vasectomy and is careful not to injure should be able to use that as a defense. It shouldn't be rape because there was no risk of injury or pregnancy. It's an idiotic argument. Your friend is an idiot
/r/MensRights17/01/13 02:08 AM
3

It's two abuse victims trying to come to terms with what happened to them. No malice whatsoever.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 09:59 PM
4

The whole point of threads like that are the discussion. The guy said "i would have preferred what happened to you." This spawned a discussion with op and the other guy seems to understand how hard it really was for op. Be mad when people say "at least you got laid" not when abuse victims are sharing experiences with each other. There was no malice here.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 09:56 PM
9

She called his dead dad a shit lord and told him to sell his stuff. Then complained about how bad things were for her for multiple pages. I don't normally enjoy people's pain but this post (that probably isn't even true) was just beautiful.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 07:17 PM
6

Ooh. I haven't seen the r/wtf debacle. What was the post about?
/r/MensRights15/01/13 08:00 PM
3

Her name was never on the account, and she's going around using our marriage license as identification to get people to accept checks. She wasn't jointly on the account. She has no power and no authority to sign his checks. So, it's fraud and OP isn't liable.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 10:38 PM
1

OP wouldn't be responsible for anything, OP's ex would be. Only the writer of the check would be responsible if it bounces. The fact that it's fraudulent protects OP in most cases. OP should report the checks stolen. There's no doubt about that. I just want to clear this stuff up. OP is not responsible for fraudulent checks written in his name.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 10:21 PM
6

It sounds like you just read a lot into his comment. I'm not sure how "kill rapists" should be construed as misandry, especially when most of us argue that there are a large amount of female rapists. It's an idiotic comment, but not one that's misandrist.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 08:04 PM
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Reporting the checks as stolen is definitely the best route. But, closing the account should be more than enough. For the most part bank's are responsible for making sure they don't cash fraudulent checks. Closing an account would definitely put the bank on notice that they should no longer be cashing your checks, so you wouldn't be responsible for any written after that. The businesses might come after you, but they also have a duty not to take fraudulent checks. So, they wouldn't have much rec…
/r/MensRights12/01/13 07:54 PM
1

I wish I was still out there. I'd love to help with this.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 04:13 PM
41

If the account is closed then you shouldn't really need to worry about it. You could call the casinos there and send them a picture of her. Tell them she's swindling casinos.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 04:07 PM
26

The way I read this is that it's rape if you are penetrated, not forced to penetrate. It was a victory when this changed, but not really what most of us were looking for in the new definition.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 11:54 PM
3

Rory is the best companion.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 04:49 PM
1

The fear boner. Not to be confused with the rage boner or piss boner.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 04:27 PM
1

That's just a bot. She helps keep people in check.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 05:38 PM
9

It's just the patriarchy. If people didn't view women as weaker then people wouldn't laugh about men being killed or raped. /s
/r/MensRights10/01/13 04:48 PM
1

God forbid guys see you working out.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 03:16 PM
3

That thread is hilarious. They try to argue facts. They can't find any, not one, that supports their argument. You provide evidence supporting your claim, so they bust out the old staple - anything bad that happens to men is just a byproduct of something bad that happens to women.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 02:04 PM
1

Haha. Fair enough. I just wish everything stayed anonymous. Then you wouldn't have to worry about the accused's reputation.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:55 PM
1

Intent is proven through evidence. You don't need an admission. It wouldn't be easy, but neither is proving rape. Again, many crimes require intent. Robbery, larceny, battery, murder. There are a pile of torts that require intent as well.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:39 PM
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It would be a high barrier, but I think you should have to prove malicious intent in fraudulent rape claims. I also think the accused in rape claims should stay completely anonymous. That way there's little chance of damage if the accused is innocent.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:01 PM
2

Intent is an issue in many crimes. And it definitely should be in this case.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:50 PM
3

This is where part of the disconnect is. I've always thought of false as malicious. I need to start referring to that as malicious accusations or something.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 02:27 PM
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I think most of the problems we talk about are relevant to men of all colors. If you want to talk more about Asian specific issues then you're more than welcome to bring them up. We're more than willing to listen to your story.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:26 AM
1

No. Don't post this garbage please.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 04:21 PM
11

You should be just as sickened by women who do use rape allegations to further their purpose. They're the people making this an issue. If no one ever lied about it then we wouldn't question anyone. But, the fact is, people do lie about this sort of thing. We're not telling you not to go to the police and report your rapist. In fact, we encourage it. What we don't encourage is lying about it.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 03:28 PM
7

This is a great comment. I wish people would understand that we are sympathetic to rape victims. We don't want them to go unheard. We just want false accusers to have their day in court as well. This shouldn't have any negative impact on actual victims.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 03:12 PM
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The fact that people just read these charts and see them as fact is sickening as well. I wish people would read this stuff and actually read the sources. This is becoming a huge issue in 2X. Rarely does anyone do any critical reading. They see he headline and repost it.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 02:30 PM
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Just a few problems I have with the original graphic, using their numbers. 5-25% of rapes are reported - they go with the low side of 10% to boost their figure 2-8% reported are false accusations - they go with the lowest possible estimate of 2% to inflate their numbers again. Anyone that understands statistics at all understands how despicable this chart really is (the original).
/r/MensRights08/01/13 02:15 PM
2

The reason I put that in was because I saw an article of some MRA mailing school admin regarding this issue The MRA that was mailing school admin on this issue was addressing the fact that many schools now have a zero tolerance policy for even being accused of sexual assault. So, if Jane goes to the admin and says "Joe sexually assaulted me" then he's out. There's no tribunal or trial of any sort. No proof is necessary and Joe has to go. Of course this is unfair and people are going to complain.…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 03:44 AM
2

I'd just like to point out that ops srs comment isn't completely terrible. We might be able to use logic here.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 01:14 AM
3

What MRA's try to block legislation? If anything, the other team tries to block punishing false accusers for fear of actual rape victims seeing that as a deterrent. I have more complaints about your post. But let's start there.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 12:17 AM
3

This is terrible and that guy is fucked. Even if she takes back her statement he'll still be prosecuted. She'll also end up with all of his stuff because of the evidence of DV. People wonder why we complain - this is why.
/r/MensRights07/01/13 03:56 PM
2

If she does, then yes she can come after you. Contact the clinic and see if you can have that stuff destroyed.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 05:49 PM
2

Totally understandable. It's never a good idea to admit anything.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 05:45 PM
6

That's not really how a statement againt interest works. It would get in under the party admission exception though.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 05:38 PM
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He was drunk. He wasn't in a "reasonable" frame of mind. Being drunk does not absolve you of sexual assault. They were both drunk, they both made poor decisions, but only one person here committed assault. And by penetrating her without the requested protection, she was assaulted. Whether or not it would be found "rape" by a jury is beside the point. We all know that doing something to someone against their wishes is wrong. Alcohol is no alibi. This is such a beautiful comment. It showcases the …
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:31 PM
1

Under this theory, women who guilt guys into paying for things are robbers and women who guilt guys into going places are kidnappers.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 11:54 PM
1

This just isn't true. The rule in most states is more like this: if a reasonable person would have understood the other person to have been too intoxicated to make a fully-informed and voluntary decision, then the consent is not meaningful.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 11:45 PM
1

I totally agree. I just don't want people here thinking that's really an option. He can try, but it'd be a miracle if he succeded.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 05:34 PM
3

He's been an absent father for four years, his chances of gaining custody are worse than bad.
/r/MensRights29/12/12 03:26 PM
3

It's going to depend on the jurisdiction, but it seems like the general rule is that you have to be visibly intoxicated. You can't just get hammered before every transaction and hope to have voidable contracts everywhere. If a person signs a contract while drunk or under the influence of drugs, can that contract be enforced? Courts are usually not very sympathetic to people who claim they were intoxicated when they signed a contract. Generally a court will only allow the contract to be avoided i…
/r/MensRights28/12/12 04:36 PM
5

I posted some stuff in 2x the last time this came up. You are still legally able to enter into contracts when you're drunk. There are some stipulations, the main one being that you can't be obviously drunk. If you're hammered and someone purposefully takes advantage of you and gets you to sell your car to them then the contract can be voided.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 02:55 PM
3

This could be an article from The Onion. No right to a jury of your peers and no right to appeal. This is just nuts.
/r/MensRights24/12/12 03:55 PM
9

Why would being cheated on entitle her to monetary compensation? She didn't sacrifice her career or anything, so why does he owe her future support?
/r/MensRights23/12/12 07:39 PM
-3

Fair enough. I think the picture points out one double standard in sports. You're free to point out how unfair things are for girls, but that has nothing to do with the issue being discussed.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 03:46 AM
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What does this have to do with anything?
/r/MensRights18/12/12 03:28 AM
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I agree with the fact that men are scientifically/biologically better at sports. The problem I have with all of this is that the boy had to go to court to be allowed to play on the girl's team. Is he going to be a bit stronger and faster? Possibly. Why is that worse than demanding that girl's be allowed to play on boy's teams when they're going to be slower and weaker?
/r/MensRights18/12/12 03:26 AM
2

If everything is true then it's seriously fucked up. The girl “was just sitting there, not really doing anything,” the player testified. “She was kind of talking, but I couldn’t make out the words that she was saying.” “I tried to tell Trent to stop it,” another athlete, who was Mays’s best friend, testified. “You know, I told him, ‘Just wait — wait till she wakes up if you’re going to do any of this stuff. Don’t do anything you’re going to regret.’ ” He said Mays answered: “It’s all right. Don’…
/r/MensRights18/12/12 02:03 AM
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I think that's the idea. Just because one group has a privilege that doesn't mean it's ok to treat them unfairly. He was pointing that out with a ridiculous example.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 11:10 PM
3

This seems to be the definition in Georgia: 16-6-1 GCA ß 26-2001: Rape " (a) A person commits the offense of rape when he has carnal knowledge of: (1) A female forcibly and against her will It goes on to say this: Carnal knowledge in rape occurs when there is any penetration of the female sex organ by the male sex organ. So, not only can a man not be raped, a woman can never rape another woman. Florida: (h) "Sexual battery" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual o…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 04:36 AM
1

There are times when I feel very disappointed in this subreddit, Why would any of this make you disappointed in this sub? The top voted comment is calling out the author of the article.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 07:32 PM
1

Right now we do seem like a small collective group. If we upvote someone that says stuff like that then it can definitely reflect poorly on us. I think we do a decent job of downvoting people like that though.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 05:31 PM
9

It would be great if we could get away from calling people faggots and retarded. First, because it's hard to take anybody seriously who does that. And second, because we want people to feel welcome here. This doesn't need to be a safe space but it could be less bigoted.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 02:02 PM
40

Does she even lift? Note: I'm ashamed of this comment.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 09:33 PM
4

It's the quote that's constantly reposted. It's a good/ridiculous quote. It just pops up a lot.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 11:42 PM
2

Most volunteer to work or fight. Not many volunteer to die or be maimed or worse.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:40 PM
14

It would be an intelligent counter argument if the initial argument was that women don't suffer during war time. No one is saying that. What op is saying is that the quote is ridiculous because men are dying. You have to work really hard to be more of a victim than someone killed in combat.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:00 PM
16

This was postef yesterday. It might be the most frequently reposted thing in this sub.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 07:56 PM
3

Molestation can definitely occur when it's desired. A ten year old (or younger) might want attention from a grown up and might welcome sexual touching if it's the only type of attention they get. That doesn't mean it isn't molestation.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 01:52 PM
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I've been thinking about this a lot lately. People keep talking about how scared women are of being raped and that men never have to fear it. The reason we don't fear being raped is because we're told that it never happens to us. Most of us are even told that it can't happen to us. There's no reason to fear something that can never happen.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 01:50 PM
2

I agree completely with the goal. I think it might take something extreme before the laws are changed though. Can you imagine how quickly the laws would change if housewives and sorority girls started ending up in court on rape charges?
/r/MensRights08/12/12 07:57 PM
3

The only good advice is leave or get a better lawyer. At the end of it all you're income should be reflected on tax returns. They can't just make numbers up out of thin air. Get a better lawyer. Tell your lawyer to fuck off.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 05:11 PM
1

I definitely agree that most of reddit is less biased, although most still consider male rape to be more of a surprise party than a problem. When I was talking about the other issue I was referring more to subs meant for women. I'm not going to, but I could link to a dozens of posts that do exactly what I described.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 03:13 PM
4

I'm actually totally fine with feminists saying that it's not for men. I wish more of them would admit it. Then we could stop having the pointless 'equality' argument with them. Feminism for them, Men's Rights for us. Egalitarianism for all, if you feel so inclined.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 07:59 AM
24

Go to one of the forums meant for women and you'll see this post a dozen times a week "I think I was raped last night, but I'm not sure." Then the post will go on to describe how drunk they were at the party and how they hooked up with were raped by their friend. They'll receive responses from concerned individuals advising them to get a rape kit done and to go to the police. It's just understood that anything that happens without pure express consent is rape, if it happens to a woman. It doesn'…
/r/MensRights08/12/12 07:55 AM
6

When someone outright states that feminism isn't for men, they're probably not worth talking to at all. Edit: When someone who claims to be a feminist says this. It's a fairly common phrase here, and I actually agree with it. Feminism is for women. Men's rights are for men.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 07:34 AM
9

Ugh. That thread is just sad. People are actually accusing someone of rape apology for saying that women can be rapists too.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 04:58 PM
1

Has anyone talked to the girl? If your friend believes he was raped, but thinks that things could turn against him in court then maybe someone should talk to the girl and get her story. If she admits to taking advantage of your friend then she raped him and confessed. If she says something like "I don't remember what happened, I was drunk" then his chances are slim.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:22 AM
2

But even if all the trials prove that RISUG is safe, effective, and reversible without adverse side effects in the long-term, it is possible that RISUG fails to become commercially available because it can’t be the cash cow for manufacturers that the numerous contraceptive options for women have been. It's not commercially viable. Getting through testing can be incredibly expensive (tens or hundreds of millions of dollars).
/r/MensRights05/12/12 03:07 AM
3

I've been considering sharing the videos with a feminist sub or 2x. It would be great if someone would do what you're describing, edit the speaking event to match the protest, so that it could be shared as well. I have no experience with film editing or I'd do it.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 01:08 PM
2

It just shows that they don't really belive in the rights of men. I think it shows, more than anything, that they're willing to protest and scream at people, and possibly get violent, over quotes that they have no understanding of. Someone posted the date rape quote above and it's pretty clearly taken out of context by the protesters. That's what scares me the most about these people. They read one line or hear it from someone else and they're ready to harass and threaten innocent people.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 01:02 PM
5

And people ask us why we feel "threatened" with feminists? These people are fucking terrifying. I don't understand how anyone can watch what happened there and think that it was right.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 12:40 PM
2

This kind of thing needs to be seen. Are there any mirrors to the original video?
/r/MensRights02/12/12 12:38 PM
0

Part of me does think this would be a wayto turn the law on its head.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:16 PM
1

No. That's what the person you linked to is doing. I'm saying that we shouldn't stoop to her level. I don't want everyone going to jail for having consensual sex, I want no one to go to jail for it. But, I do think it would be an interesting way to fight to have the laws changed by having men everywhere filing charges against women for this.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:13 PM
2

It's not different, we just know better. Though, I have wondered what would happen if men across the country started turning women in for raping them when they were drunk. The law would clearly have to change.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:58 PM
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There's a better way of dealing with the situation than calling her a rapist to all of their friends. Most of us don't even consider consensual drunk sex to be rape. In ops story he blacked out, but he might have been functioning just fine. If he consented and she thought he could, then not rape.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:56 PM
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There's a lot of truth to this. But it doesn't make "equal pay for equal work" true at all. Let's address the the fact that women choose lower paying jobs while also considering why men aren't. The problem that most of us have with the pay gap arguments are with people who argue for the equal pay for equal work, which already exists.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 03:12 AM
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A child definitely has a right to support. How much support is debatable. But, why would some children have a right to two supporting parents? If a single individual wants to adopt then are they infringing on the child's right to two parents? At the end of the day its the child who gets less support if the father decides so, so you are making a child responsible for the decisions of its father and it simply doesnt work this way. No. I'm making the mother responsible for the decision. Your entire…
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:07 PM
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I don't understand why a child has the right to two financial supporters. It's nice if you have two but how is it a right and not a privilege?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 03:38 PM
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There was a post the other day in a predominantly female sub where the op bragged about how easy it was to get drunk guys to sleep with her. Not one person called it rape. This is one of the biggest double standards that we have to deal with.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 03:07 PM
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It does seem like we're missing a lot of information.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 04:55 PM
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The only studies that I've seen on the topic included interviews from rapists who said they looked for the quiet women who they'd have an easy time taking advantage of. If they noticed clothing then it wasn't 'slutty' clothes, it was more conservative attire.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 03:21 PM
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I was thinking about this the other day. I think it's interesting to consider what would happen if the roles were reversed, but to not get bogged down by it. If you were offended then you should tell someone. If you weren't, then you shouldn't just because you know a woman in the department would.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 02:37 AM
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The girl who wrote this either committed suicide or faked it shortly after this was written. She has/had some severe mental issues.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 02:28 AM
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I'm a big fan of the show and Quagmire makes at least a few rape jokes.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 04:57 PM
1

That clears it up. Thanks
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:20 AM
1

I'm really just curious. Why do you want a woman that eats salads?
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:12 AM
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We agree that a gap exists. Most of us also agree that it's extremely misleading to just say "Men get paid more than women." You have to also address the fact that they're doing different work. It becomes a flat out lie when you say "women are making less than men for the same job."
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:08 AM
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I'm not saying that any man should be able to stop an abortion from happening. My argument is all from a financial viewpoint. A man should not be financially responsible for a decision made by another person. If he chooses to financially abort while the mother still has ample opportunity to either abort or abandon then it should be allowed. There's more to the argument, but those are the basics of it. I don't think any of us want men to have the power to stop abortions from occurring.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 06:11 PM
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I don't think my tone needs to be dialed down. I didn't call you names or anything. I simply addressed each point you brought up. I was just saying that your argument, that men cause much of misandry sounds similar to the feminist argument that the patriarchy causes the problems men face. You're clearly not making that argument, that's just what it sounded like.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 06:09 PM
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what rights can you give the man? Most of us argue for the addition of legal paternal surrender, or financial abortion. The argument being that if abortions and adoption are viable options for women then men should have the equivalent.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 02:15 PM
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which comes up as misspelled in Chrome Partly because I misspelled it, and partly because it just hasn't been fully adopted yet. I don't usually consider whether or not a concept exists in chrome's spellcheck as evidence of it's existence. Its also important to note that much of mysandry (which comes up as misspelled in Chrome) is generated by men themselves, such as superiors. This sounds like the old "misandry is just the patriarchy argument," which I don't fully buy. But, even if I did buy it…
/r/MensRights21/10/12 02:11 PM
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If the package enhancing thong had a backstory to it then I'd agree.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 09:05 PM
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Most cosplay for women is. It's sexual in nature, but people go too far with it.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 08:48 PM
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That's not what she was wearing though. She was wearing a costume based on a popular super hero.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 07:50 PM
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The "mysandry doesnt real" part made me cringe. It's definitely srs language. I'm so glad I don't know any of them personally.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 04:09 PM
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It's not that we think taking photos of people without their permission is right. It's that we agree that it isn't illegal. If something isn't illegal then it shouldn't be pulled from reddit, which is supposed to be a place of free speech. Supporting immoral activities like creepshots will damage this Mens rights reddit. Again, we support people's rights to do things that aren't illegal. We don't support the activity itself. At least as a group we don't.
/r/MensRights13/10/12 08:09 PM
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It can be seen as a form of harassment and, in this case, blackmail. Actively trying to get someone fired like this would also probably fall under harassment.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 06:37 PM
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I'm not going to take offense to that kind of thing. That thread was disgusting. More than anything I try to bring my perspective from here over there. I havent been banned or even warned. I have had someone ask for me to be banned in a discussion on rape. Just like any other sub it can definitely be a circle jerk.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:26 PM
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If you do, please be polite and make an effort to not derail conversations. It's easy to get dismissed if you do.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 03:20 PM
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It depends on how popular a post becomes. If it makes it to the 2x front page then it's going to read like it's full of trolls. If you go through the new stuff there are some decent conversations going on. Most of 2x is fairly reasonable.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:58 PM
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We had a discussion in 2x yesterday about a woman cheating. No one argued it was the man's fault. I don't visit relationship advice subs so I can't comment on that. I just haven't seen this in 2x.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:32 PM
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That and not bad mouth her in front of the kid. Edit: Wrong word
/r/MensRights01/10/12 10:21 PM
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Some courts require a further showing that you were noticeably that drunk. Do you think the guy you are referring to knew you were blacked out?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 05:10 PM
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for this reason, i will never bring a lawyer in to court with me ever again! This is going to be the advice you get here. It's the only real advice a person can give in your situation. California is notorious for being borderline hostile toward fathers. Your chances are slim with an attorney and nil without one. If you don't want to lose your son then talk to your ex, that's pretty much all you can do without an attorney.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 11:26 PM
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If a man does not want to father children he can have an vasectomy or partake in some sort of male hormonal birth control. Or use condoms properly. It's not rocket science. Why are surgeries and responsibility only ever recommended for men? Women shouldn't be forced to have abortions but men should be forced to have vasectomies? This seems like a pretty clear double standard. Why can't women just wait for consenting partners?
/r/MensRights29/09/12 01:41 PM
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Can you link to anything that shows any of this? There is a lack of consensus on a possible risk of preterm birth, it says. Some studies found an association, others not. "From the recent studies reviewed, no clear relationship between previous induced abortion and preterm birth was demonstrable," the guidance says. Also, there "are no proven associations between induced abortion and subsequent ectopic pregnancy, placenta praevia or infertility". Source Another quote: That was backed up by the f…
/r/MensRights29/09/12 01:34 PM
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People seem to think that MRM do the downvoting in these threads. We don't. We upvote stuff like this: If not then you're right and something should be done about it. But, people who disagree come in and downvote these threads as much as they can.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 01:27 PM
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Or adoptions, or plan B, or financially support herself. Mainly, we want women to wait for consenting men to have children with. If they can't wait, then they should be ready to support the lifestyle they're choosing.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 01:22 PM
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I'm not sure how your comment is relevant. The health risks of pregnancy and giving birth seem to far outweigh those of having an abortion. If that is the case, then the health risks of abortions seem moot here. In the most basic comparison - death rates. "In the United States, the maternal death rate was 21 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in 2010." Source vs "According to a House Subcommittee on Criminal Justice, Drug Policy and Human Resources document, the number of patient fatalities…
/r/MensRights29/09/12 01:19 PM
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That's really depressing. I was just thinking, surely a group didn't decide this.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 10:51 PM
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This is why jury trials are so important.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 04:45 PM
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No one asks for people to down vote. It's a natural thing to happen in a thread we collectively disagree with. I try to not down vote anything that's been cross posted here. But it's extremely difficult sometimes.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 05:00 PM
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The nice thing about these anti-MRA sentiments is that they tend to drive people here to see what all the fuss is about. When people get here they see how things really are and subscribe. That's how I ended up here, and the we've gained something like 20k subscribers since I arrived less than a year ago. Edit: It helps when the sentiment comes from someone who spouts off nonsense and sounds insane like the posters there.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 08:52 PM
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This was one of the first posts here when I subscribed. I'm not calling it a repost. Just pointing out that this isn't some person who just did this. It happened last year or years before. There were actually people defending it.People were saying that she probably spent her own money before then so this is basically payback for that. So she gets to use it as she pleases. This thought process is exactly why we needmore monitoring of child support payments .
/r/MensRights20/09/12 09:59 PM
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That's not really how conspiracy works.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 10:59 PM
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Honestly, this kind of thing is still publicity. Putting up the "men's rights are human rights" poster over the middle part of that hate speech would drive people here out of sheer curiosity.
/r/MensRights17/09/12 12:42 PM
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The written note is terrible advice. You're going to be paying child support either way. If you ever want any form of custody then a letter saying you never wanted the kid could hurt your chances in court. It could also be used to turn the child against you later. Don't write a letter. It can only hurt you.
/r/MensRights15/09/12 11:23 PM
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I'm on the list! I was kind of hurt for not being on the other list.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 04:10 AM
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I wouldn't say keeping your drink safe is living in a state of fear. And I wouldn't limit the advice to women.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 11:11 PM
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Or at least to not let my drink out of my site for very long if I'm not with friends.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:42 PM
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My reason for the drink advice comes from hearing horror stories. Ive heard and read enough of them to never accept a drink from a stranger. Especially when you live near a college campus.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:41 PM
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The problem with the second quote is that it implies that women should be told about everything that contributed to their rape. Are they more likely to get picked up (by any guy) if they look hot? Absolutely. Will some women who get picked up be raped? Sadly, yes. How far do we go with this? If they hadn't been at the bar or club then they wouldn't have been picked up either. If they never left the house then they never would have been picked up. Let's stick to helpful advice. Dont get blackout …
/r/MensRights12/09/12 09:15 PM
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No studies support the notion that revealing clothing results in a higher chance of being raped. The opposite has actually been shown in rapists confessions. They say that they look for subdued clothing on women who look shy (or something similar). It doesn't make sense to warn women of something that is unrelated to the crime being warned about. If you want to say "don't go to X neighborhood at night because the crime rate there is high" then you have my full support. But clothing warnings are …
/r/MensRights12/09/12 07:11 PM
1

The fact that it is seemingly ok to hate someone doesn't really show the strength of that hatred.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 07:04 PM
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Haha. I know. I just thought your comment worked well for an analogy too.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 12:05 AM
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Or you just play pickup games.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 08:07 PM
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I don't like PUAs but it's not because of the amount of sex they have. It's because of the manipulative tricks they use. The common argument is that it's all about confidence. But there are a lot of posts that come off more like "look how I tricked this girl into sleeping with me."
/r/MensRights10/09/12 08:05 PM
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I was mostly referring to the idea that someone is a slut based on some magic number of partners they've had. You're totally right that everyone is entitled to their preferences. I just don't think anyone should be shamed for not meeting those preferences/expectations. Patched basically said that a woman's vagina becomes battered from having multiple partners. Not only is that shaming but it also shows a complete misunderstanding of biology.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 07:20 PM
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I can understand that. If your rule was "no more than 10 partners" or something then I'd call bullshit. But wanting someone who remembers their last few partners does make sense.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 04:59 PM
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Not always true, but mostly true. Men definitely have to work harder to get laid (by someone they're physically attracted to).
/r/MensRights10/09/12 04:04 PM
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How many partners or one night stands would meet this definition of slut for you?
/r/MensRights10/09/12 04:02 PM
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The only study that I found supporting this theory basically says that half of the population has a gene that causes them to be risk takers, which can include sleeping around and cheating. Do you have any other studies that backs this up?
/r/MensRights10/09/12 03:53 PM
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I just want to point out that being sexually promiscuous doesn't wear a person out. It's natural to enjoy sex and if you're safe about it then it can be a wonderful thing. Dont judge someone just because they've had more partners than you.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 02:24 PM
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Actually totally on topic. This thread is full of people who have no real understanding of sex. If you think a person becomes worn out after being with a few or even many people then you need to try sex ed again. I've dated girls that hadn't been with many other people and they had no idea what they were doing, were shy and reserved. My girlfriend was a little more promiscuous and is amazing in bed. She's giving and not shy at all. The idea that she would be somehow tainted by her past sexual en…
/r/MensRights10/09/12 02:22 PM
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Are you using slut to mean someone who sleeps around, is sexually open, or that cheats? If it's one of the first two then I disagree. The last is definitely something to be avoided. The first two shouldn't be considered negatives.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 02:17 PM
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No thank you.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 09:59 PM
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Haven't we established the fact that with an adjusted definition of rape to include 'forced to insert' the number of female rapists would skyrockets? Why don't we put together a standard response for threads like these to include those numbers?
/r/MensRights07/09/12 07:34 PM
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Agreed. The same is done in 2X, but that doesn't make it ok here. I wish downvotes were reserved for truly heinous comments.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 03:37 PM
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I will never let a child of mine attend a school with ridiculous rules like these.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 10:36 PM
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I read this and had most of the same thoughts. Why is it ok for this article to say men won't understand being scared or men are violent? When someone here makes a generalization about women we're labelled women haters.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 04:06 PM
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Probably a proof issue. That or they'll argue that this isn't a novel enough post. Even though there are repeats every day.
/r/MensRights04/09/12 03:55 AM
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Sadly it's true. I think there has been some changes in those laws. But, I have read a few cases where a guy gets stuck paying child support after playing the role as stepdad for a few years. I have actually seen people defend this kind of thing in the feminist subs.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 01:12 PM
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This is exactly what I thought. Listening to the story made me physically ill. The woman clearly has some deep mental issues and has the potential to be extremely dangerous. That danger isn't limited to phone calls and letters. People like her scare the shit out of me.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 07:25 PM
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The main issue that I have with your frame of thought is that you seem to think we can't work on multiple issues at a time. We can try to fix more than one problem at a time.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 07:17 PM
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I just want to shout at people that think that way. You're basically at war. Do what you need to do to not get screwed.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 04:46 PM
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This and 'mansplaining' are quick signs that I need to stop talking to whatever idiot I mistakenly started a conversation with. Otherwise just show them a dictionary. I doubt you'll be able to change someones mind once they've reached that level of lunacy.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 07:25 PM
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If her argument really is based on the definition then just show it to her. The definition is: prejudice or discrimination based on sex. Nowhere does it say that women can't be sexist.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 06:46 PM
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I have heard people complain about the price of abortions when this discussion is had. Which is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, considering the cost of having a child. If the law were written as you describe then I would vote for it to be enacted. It would be a small price.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 03:19 PM
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Many men have been up in arms over abortion and a womans right to choose. That being said, this is a mens rights subreddit. We discuss things that are relevant to that subject. This is a fairly relevant topic. It shouldn't be surprising that we're annoyed by such a thing.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 03:05 PM
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The eggs basically change the sensation you use to get off. I was masturbating dry most of the time before that. Which can cause a loss of sensitivity. The eggs just help you get used to the softer sensation. You're right about condonable though. I'm right around the average size so I just buy Crown brand, one of the thinnest available.
/r/MensRights28/08/12 02:01 PM
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If you're having issues with sensitivity then you might try adjusting your masturbation habits. I added Tenga Eggs to my routine and had fantastic results rebuilding sensitivity. I've totally stopped masturbating and have had even better results, but that might not be an option for everyone.
/r/MensRights27/08/12 03:25 PM
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One of many examples. The law seems to be changing. But these are recent changes. http://www.khou.com/news/Houston-man-forced-to-pay-child-support-for-child-that-DNA-proves-isnt-his-124472429.html
/r/MensRights24/08/12 08:46 PM
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If over half of American companies offer it then how do only a small percentage of women have it? It seems like half would have it.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 06:18 PM
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Where do you practice? I just watched a friend go through a divorce and his experience contradicts a lot of what you've said.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 04:58 PM
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It's kind of hilarious that people still believe the wage gap is solely based on gender discrimination when there's just so much evidence to the contrary. How can you argue equal work for equal pay when one gender has the option of taking several months off for partial or full pay?
/r/MensRights24/08/12 04:09 PM
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If she's doing it to speed up the process just tell her you'll sign if she reverses the names.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 05:52 PM
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The story doesn't say anything about the details. Was the guy convicted? Was he tried? If he was convicted then giving him custody seems crazy. I'd still like to know the details though. If he wasn't. Then this woman is basically announcing to the world that the guy is a rapist.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 04:03 PM
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Can we make this a rule? No posting to Jezebel, screenshots are ok though.
/r/MensRights23/08/12 03:16 PM
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I'm not really saying they're hypocrits. I am saying that they misunderstand the term 'right.' Admittance to a private club is no one's right. But, it sounds like they're comparing it to things like women's suffrage.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 06:17 PM
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It might be more common for a man to commit the crime. But the official FBI definition doesn't qualify it as a male only crime. Why does a dictionary need to add qualifiers?
/r/MensRights22/08/12 03:30 PM
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Disregarding the history argument. The main problem seems to be the belief that someone (anyone) has a right to be in a private club. The Augusta situation just brings to light how much some people misunderstand terms like 'rights' and 'privilege.'
/r/MensRights22/08/12 03:22 PM
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My problem is the tone of the article. It sounds like she's asking if you'd trust your kid to take out the garbage on time. The condescension is just so thick.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 02:04 PM
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It's strange that they think that way. I've seen numerous trans posters comment and ask where they fit in here. They were welcomed with open arms. I've only seen one comment that was taken as transphobic and it was something along the lines of "maybe I should just cut my dick off and be trans." It comes off as a bit ignorant but hardly bigoted.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 07:13 PM
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They compare us to the kkk. That seems a bit extreme.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 05:29 PM
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I've seen this so much today. I don't understand why people think it's a legitimate argument.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 09:26 PM
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My advice for not getting raped is nearly identical to the advice I would give to avoid getting mugged. At the same time the advice applies to both men and women. Mainly don't get blackout drunk if you don't have someone watching your back. Also don't wander off from a bar or club with someone you don't know.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 09:23 PM
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A friend of mine is paying significantly more than $5k. If you don't have money to fight, find it. You will be far better off in the long run and you'll pay less as well.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 03:24 PM
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I don't think most feminists hate men. It does seem like they don't care about men. The claim is that it's about gender equality for both men and women. But, look through r/feminism and see if you can find articles about issues affecting men (that aren't just "the patriarchy hurts men too" articles).
/r/MensRights17/08/12 03:14 PM
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I could get behind something like this if it included fathers as well. These rules just drive fathers to work as much as they can. Then when things fall apart in the family he's blamed for not being around and often denied any real type of shared custody. It's a fucked system that this kind of thing only adds to.
/r/MensRights17/08/12 02:55 PM
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Taking turns is a great idea in an established relationship. If you're just playing the dating game then a second turn might not come for a while. It's expensive to date, moreso for men because of the expectation that they'll pay for everything.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 07:51 PM
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I worked with an attorney that did some jury research before a rape trial. He was representing the male defendant. His research indicated that women, especially young women, were more likely to side with his client. Men took the side of the victim while women thought she did something to provoke it. In the jury selection both he and the opposing attorney picked young women for the jury. The guy was acquitted.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 02:16 PM
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I don't know if you're looking for advice but I'd definitely try out online dating. I hated trying to pick girls in bars. The idea of connecting with someone there just seemed impossible and I'm not the casual sex kind of guy. There's an okcupid subreddit that can be very helpful with proper messaging and profile building. I actually met my girlfriend in that subreddit.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 10:15 PM
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She goes on to praise SRS. Once that happens I think they're lost forever or until the insanity finally gets to them.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 07:27 PM
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My problem is the fact that the decision is pushed on the father. If the man says "I don't want a kid" then the woman is the one making the decision to have a kid on her own. She's making the choice against the child's best interest.
/r/MensRights14/08/12 04:55 PM
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In most U.S. courts accused are allowed to change out of their prison garb so they get fair treatment from the jury. Seeing the accused in bright orange can negatively sway their opinion before words are even spoken. It's sad that we have to hide the fact that the accused is a man, just to get fair treatment. What I think would actually happen is that jurors would just assume that the accused is a man, resulting in harsher punishments for women but no changes for men.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 09:17 PM
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It's not ok to target people based on race, sex, age, disability or gender. That includes targeting men. If you can't understand that then you definitely wandered into the wrong subreddit.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 07:19 PM
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There's an assumption that all women can get laid at any time. If they choose a vibrator then it means they're making a decision to not let just any guy fuck them. The opposite assumption is made about men. All men want is sex. We'll take it anywhere we can get it and we're thrilled that someone was kind enough to fuck us (or let us fuck them). Using a sex toy indicates that we have exhausted all of our options and are forced (never voluntarily) to resort to toys. Any guy that does that must be …
/r/MensRights10/08/12 03:22 PM
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Someone that age is definitely impressionable. I think a relationship between someone that age and someone else in their teens would be fine. If the other person was 40 then I would definitely have a problem with it.
/r/MensRights09/08/12 11:09 AM
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A thread hasn't made me actually sad in a long time. I try not to downvote threads crossposted so I just had to leave. The whole situation is depressing. Nothing excuses her behavior. OCD and pregnancy combined don't excuse belittling someone and calling them names like that. He might be a little insensitive but she's a destructive force in that relationship. I'm so sad for that op.
/r/MensRights09/08/12 03:49 AM
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What is happening in that log? Can you translate it into English?
/r/MensRights09/08/12 12:15 AM
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I just meant that the 19 year old shouldn't be morally culpable.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 09:08 PM
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Yep. Legally it'd be statutory rape. But morally, I think the 19 year old would be fine unless there were other sketchy circumstances.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:18 PM
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If you're 19 then I would say you're in the clear. Legally it'd be statutory rape but a 14 year old is far from a child. Especially to someone who is still a teenager. If the genders where reversed I would say the same thing.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 05:26 PM
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Crossposting? I hate SRS because they treat people like children and deny any chance that they might be wrong about anything.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 12:38 PM
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I understand where you're coming from. My problem is when there isn't a discussion. If I said "I hate that men suffer in family courts" the response might be "blame the patriarchy." Which seems like a cop-out without more to back it up. You can't just say patriarchy and call the discussion over. You have to flesh out how the patriarchy might be causing these issues.
/r/MensRights07/08/12 08:54 PM
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I hate the term patriarchy. I'm fine with admitting that most men hold the powerful positions in government and in most corporations. But, a lot of people seem to use it to describe every negative stereotype ever conceived. There's a good discussion goin on over there on this topic. Join in if you'd like but be respectful and try not to act as a downvote brigade.
/r/MensRights07/08/12 06:03 PM
3

Doesn't apply to boys. They're just lucky people are willing to have sex with them apparently.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 09:55 PM
1

I'm not lying. I was merely commenting on my experiences. Mine is intact and it works great. I have heard and read horror stories about uncut penises. I'm simply sharing my experience. I don't need a lecture on how my experience is wrong.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:34 PM
1

You're barking up the wrong tree. Arguing that it's my ignorance causing my happiness with my penis is ridiculous. I support the effort to stop circumcision and I won't have my kid circumcised. But you can fuck right off with this comment. I don't need anyone to try to make me feel bad about what I have. I haven't had any of the complications you listed, so I'm happy with it.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 06:20 PM
2

I'm cut but won't have my son cut. That being said, I'm happy that I am for a few reasons. The main one is that I've heard and read horror stories in /r/sex and other places about smells, tearing and general discomfort from uncut guys. I have no trouble getting off at all. If I got off any easier then I would consider that to be a problem. I do understand the arguments against circumcision. It just hasn't been an issue for me.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 05:28 PM
1

Absolutely. The comments in that other thread are incredibly disturbing.
/r/MensRights06/08/12 03:02 PM
6

My girlfriend and I have discussed this and I can see the need for alimony sometimes. My problem with this is the demand for custody and money. The guy might not have been able to spend as much time with his kids because he was working to support his family. Why should this be a black mark on his record? Why is she entitled to the kids and monthly payments because of it?
/r/MensRights06/08/12 02:45 PM
1

I'm not so worried about ammunition for feminists, but I don't think blatant misogyny should be posted or left up. I'll definitely be reporting this thread, that seems to be the only real option.
/r/MensRights05/08/12 11:48 PM
3

I was going to say the same thing. The last time I saw comments or posts from here mentioned on Jezebel they were all downvoted to oblivion but still portrayed as our majority opinion.
/r/MensRights05/08/12 11:40 PM
-1

You're totally right. I was mostly referring to fempire femenists. I shouldn't generalize like that.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 01:39 AM
1

So, women who don't get catcalled are privileged?
/r/MensRights02/08/12 12:15 AM
5

It does suck. But, how am I privileged by a minority of men thinking that it's acceptable behavior? The vast majority of men understand (or should) that it's shitty behavior.
/r/MensRights01/08/12 09:22 PM
2

Hooray privilege!
/r/MensRights01/08/12 09:00 PM
1

I think a lot of people here would be up for a feminist debate. I'm not sure how to argue their side, in most cases it seems to always come down to the patriarchy. Not unlike Christians arguing that something is God's will when it becomes too hard to answer.
/r/MensRights01/08/12 08:50 PM
1

How would you describe srs ideology? To me, they're just bigoted bullies. So, I'm not sure who (other than antisrs) would be interested in debating them.
/r/MensRights01/08/12 08:36 PM
3

If you want an interesting debate then use a feminist sub and mr. SRS is a circlejerk, how are we supposed to debate the point of view of something that is admittedly a trolling circlejerk?
/r/MensRights01/08/12 07:50 PM
2

Agreed. If op wants someone for srs to debate just use GoT. This sub isn't the male version of srs.
/r/MensRights01/08/12 07:45 PM
4

There's a difference between a quick check to see if the claim is valid and harassing someone. It sounds like the cop moved into the latter. At the same time, a man walking with a child is not suspicious behavior. The cop's right to investigate comes when they get a credible tip. I'm not sure how "there's a man with a child" warranted investigation.
/r/MensRights01/08/12 01:07 PM
2

I went back and reread some of the thread. There was more than one female commenters describing what they had done. I counted three in the first fourth of the thread or so.
/r/MensRights31/07/12 02:08 PM
9

There are some truly fucked up individuals out there. My problem with an article like that is the use of the word 'full.' There are millions of redditors and a couple hundred or even thousand doesn't represent the site at all. People are treating that thread like a perfect representation of the site. It's ridiculous.
/r/MensRights27/07/12 08:58 PM
2

Definitely try a mediator. What do you want in the divorce? Also, don't sleep with her or anyone else until the divorce is final.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 11:48 PM
5

I definitely agree with you there. I think we get painted with a broad brush way too often. It's fair to limit the idiocy to those commenting and upvoting.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 09:17 PM
284

That's hilarious and extremely sad at the same time.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 03:07 PM
1

I totally agree. And I think everyone else here agrees. There are more circumstances past unconsciousness that could result in rape. If he was obviously blackout drunk - stumbling around, requiring help to get to bed - then I think rape could have occurred. I was just pointing out that almost all of the top comments pointed this out. The very first comment talks about her belief that he consented.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 02:31 PM
3

I think people are downvoting you because your first comment implies that only a man would turn down sex if she was ugly.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 02:26 PM
2

My stance is that if you're blackout drunk then it was rape. And, some people have pointed out the fact that it might not have been rape. A lot of us are just sympathizing with the guy though. Even if it wasn't legally rape he deserves to be heard. Edit: Almost all of the top comments bring up the fact that it might have just been drunk sex. I'm the only one that didn't. I didn't because he makes no indication that he's going to the police. Instead, he's looking for validation and support.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 12:03 PM
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To me, you should be fine when it comes to the saving yourself part. You've made a decision to maintain your virginity and you made every attempt to live by that decision. I think this is something you should talk to your girlfriend about. Just tell her what you've told us. If she loves you then she should understand and give you support. On a side note, if you haven't already then you should get tested for any stds.
/r/MensRights23/07/12 10:34 PM
6

You are correct. This is how it should work and should be how it was intended to work.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 08:13 PM
5

Well, we live together now. So the thousand mile penis is more of a problem than a benefit now.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 04:44 PM
10

This is how the system is supposed to work.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 03:07 PM
9

Sexy locals are waiting for you.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 03:01 PM
10

I figures that was what you were looking for. But with all of tea MGTOW stories lately I thought I'd share my positive relationship story. Another story regarding kids: My neighbor has a little girl. She's around 9 years old. She comes by sometimes to play with our dog. The parents don't think twice about letting her come by if it's just me or my dad here.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 03:00 PM
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I got out of a bad relationship several years ago. I started dating and came to terms with the fact that I would have to sacrifice something in the women I dated. I thought it was one of those choose two situations: attractiveness, intelligence, personality. Or something like that. One day I got a message on here from a girl about a thousand miles away. We talked for a while and started dating. She surpasses my expectations in every category. Things that would have started fights in my previous …
/r/MensRights21/07/12 02:51 PM
10

The recent Magic Mike double standard really pissed me off. A movie about male strippers and people still found a way to make it about sexually objectifying women.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 02:38 AM
7

I have the exact same thought everytime someone posts in 2X about being scared of rape on a college campus. No shit you're scared. There are posters all over campus with shit like "75% of college females will get raped" next to "men can stop rape." Obviously people are going to be afraid in that kind of situation.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 03:55 PM
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I think it's more about wanting the freedom to do what they want sexually without ridicule. Obviously everything needs to be consensual. As Zombiescout mentioned. The male equivalent would be giving someone a hard time for not getting laid all the time. Although, I have heard some men get criticized for having too much sex. The main gist is that consensual sexual decisions should have no impact on a persons character.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 06:51 PM
1

He also talked about a sentencing disparity. We're just arguing different topics.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 06:14 PM
5

I understand the anger and frustration with Sandusky. But, that's not how the law is supposed to work. In the court of public opinion he and his staff are free to be executed. But, in a court of law they're limited to the law. His salary and any actions he took outside of the crime that was committed is irrelevant to the case. A cover up would be relevant but I imagine this woman did what she could to cover up her actions as well.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 05:43 PM
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Why should salary have any impact on sentencing?
/r/MensRights17/07/12 04:15 PM
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I'm cut but my kid probably won't be. It's kind of a non-issue for me but theres no reason for me to do it to my kid.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 05:04 PM
4

Most just acknowledged it as a troll and went on with their discussion. Not a big deal really.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 03:48 AM
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I think the point is that it could have been traumatic and she might need help and support. This does not mean the guy should be prosecuted or even told about it. He did nothing wrong.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 01:49 AM
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I agree. I think a person can have the emotional backlash of an event like rape without it fully happening. It does not mean that the guy involved should be prosecuted. It just means the woman might need some counseling.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 01:47 AM
1

Ah. It makes much more sense now. Thanks
/r/MensRights16/07/12 01:08 AM
1

I think you responded to the wrong comment.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 12:43 AM
3

I can understand that but I think the message gets lost when you stoop that low. If we make our argument in an intelligent fashion then people are more likely to listen to it. If they don't, then calling them names won't change that fact and will only deter others who happen to see the exchange.
/r/MensRights15/07/12 10:23 PM
2

I agree that we shouldn't resort to name calling but I do agree with the top posts - that she just regrets cheating.
/r/MensRights15/07/12 08:32 PM
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I went back to check it out. There are twelve direct op responses before you get to the first one about a boy. And dozens of comments stemming off from those.
/r/MensRights15/07/12 03:56 PM
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I wasn't falsely accused after my assault but the girl did start spreading the rumor that I was gay because I stopped her. The worst part was that I did kind of have a crush on her before then.
/r/MensRights15/07/12 02:38 PM
0

Would it help if some of us came forward and gave you some examples of men who have been violated by women? When I was in high school I had a girl basically force herself on me in my sleep. There's one for woman on man sexual assault.
/r/MensRights15/07/12 04:13 AM
2

The colors look like they changed in the edits. Which one is op?
/r/MensRights14/07/12 08:08 PM
2

This turning everything into "actually, that's really a problem for women" is one of my greatest problems with feminism, along with vilification of men. I keep wanting to put together a list of comments from feminists and 2xers that do this. It seems to be the response to every issue lately. My favorite is that family courts favoring women is reverse sexism and more of a problem for women than men. How does that sound even remotely sane?
/r/MensRights14/07/12 03:01 PM
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As far as I know false allegations would never be a result of miscommunication. They would always result from willful and malicious fraud.
/r/MensRights14/07/12 05:28 AM
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Other stories came out around the same time. At least one was of a drunk guy wandering into what he thought was his hotel room. He climbed into bed and had sex with a woman who he thought was his wife. It was not his wife and I believe he was charged with rape. So, two stories in which a drunk person has sex with the wrong person. In both cases the man is the rapist.
/r/MensRights14/07/12 01:48 AM
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From what I've seen here and in other subs, he would be the rapist in your hypothetical. Another good example: in a case of mistaken identity (because of alcohol) the man is the rapist regardless of who initiated or was intoxicated.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 08:04 PM
1

We've been dating for about ten months.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 01:58 AM
1

It is not. I just replaced my old user name that partly identified my real name. For some reason this popped into my head. I'd say possibly from your reference but I don't know what that is so it's probably not from there.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 08:07 PM
1

I definitely do. I just wanted to post something positive. There are some truly amazing women out there. You just have to do some work to find them.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 06:04 PM
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I have been in relationships like this but my current relationship is nothing like this. There are women out there who are GGG (good, game and giving).
/r/MensRights12/07/12 05:57 PM
3

Except that it is illegal to discriminate based on gender but not illegal to run out of stock of an item.
/r/MensRights07/07/12 04:22 PM
10

Attempted rape is still a crime and impossibility is not usually a defense to an attempted crime.
/r/MensRights07/07/12 02:30 PM
1

It changes the motivation from wanting to go back in time. I was really only addressing that part of your comment.
/r/MensRights06/07/12 01:31 AM
2

What if they were wearing a condom? What if they took every precaution to not get the girl pregnant?
/r/MensRights05/07/12 01:07 AM
1

There are a lot of people who just downvote everything here. I was reading through a thread yesterday that had about ten comments. Each comment had three or four downvotes. It was pretty clear that a few people (or one person with a few accounts) just went in and downvoted everything.
/r/MensRights05/07/12 01:03 AM
0

It seems like a lot of people are complaining about this. Shouldn't we support this kind of thing and encourage the removal of similar subreddits that are anti-men?
/r/MensRights05/07/12 12:34 AM
1

I just commented in their tennis thread. I don't normally go there but I'm trying it out to see if I can have a real discussion with an srser.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 03:27 AM
2

There has been an ongoing discussion here, in r/tennis, r/twoxchromosomes, and r/srsdiscussion. I'm not telling you this is a preposterous, just that you could probably search 'tennis' in those subs and find some good discussions.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 02:43 AM
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For a while we didn't really link there. I'm not sure what the rise in cross posting is from. I agree that we shouldn't link to 2X.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 06:30 PM
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I think if you follow the comments our admins have tried to do something about it. Duckduck_goose is part of the fempire. I imagine her comments are being made with the knowledge that we have nothing to do with that sub. She never acknowledges any of the comments being made explaining the situation and continues to question our connection to that sub. 6 hours ago: Duck Did you notice on [1] /r/beatingwomen the huge stamp on their site that it's Men's Rights approved? I did. Explain that men. How…
/r/MensRights02/07/12 04:30 PM
2

The double standard has been discussed and should be. Don't we have other areas for rage comics and memes now?
/r/MensRights02/07/12 01:27 AM
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This is just ludicrous. In what bizarre form of logic is someone entitled to that much money for simply living with another person for seven years?
/r/MensRights01/07/12 04:35 PM
5

Link to an image of the page in case the author takes it down. The advice is clearly encouraging extortion.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 02:43 PM
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I think it's just an SRSer. I've argued with one of them before on the issue of coercive rape. Their argument was that basically any lie that possibly leads to sex is rape. So, if you lie about your job, how much money you make, how tall you are, how much you love her, where you're from, what your name is, what your phone number is, or anything else then you raped her if she had sex with you.
/r/MensRights01/07/12 02:38 PM
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I will never understand the logic that people like that use. Apparently only women can be objectified and men can be sexist. It makes no sense whatsoever and destroys any credibility that the person might have had otherwise.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 08:14 PM
5

You need to quote individual statements and debate them for any real dialogue to start. Just saying "I don't understand" isn't going to make the debate any clearer.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 09:18 PM
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It's just that these rights, like the right to beat and rape your wife with impunity They really have us figured out.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 04:27 PM
2

I think we've officially been trolled. I wouldnt put too much more thought into this post.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 10:13 PM
5

Based solely on what you've written here, I'd say get out of there. I don't know what you mean by jailbait. You could be 16 for all I know and I imagine someone who's 13 or 14 would be jailbait, but it wouldn't be all that strange for a 16 year old boy to be attracted to a 14 year old. If you're 30 and you guys had sex and immediately after he just said "Ya know, I want to fuck everyone. That includes 13 year olds." then yeah, get out.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 08:54 PM
2

"Don't ~~ dress like a slut, and~~ walk drunk down back alleys". This I'm totally fine with and should not be considered victim blaming. The first statement is just ridiculous.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 03:56 PM
3

Unless I'm missing some underlying message, most of the points are ridiculous.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 03:31 PM
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He's talkin about rightsbot. It doesn't seem like it would be necessary in a more casual subreddit.
/r/MensRights27/06/12 12:27 AM
1

Everyone seems to agree that the guy got what he deserved. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 08:21 PM
0

You're welcome to post this kind of thing but please don't make requests for downvote brigades.
/r/MensRights23/06/12 09:41 PM
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This is great! Nice job getting the word out.
/r/MensRights21/06/12 11:05 PM
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While that's horrible and all, the actual rapes that destroy an innocent woman's life, AKA the more widespread, serious, systemic, this-shit-needs-to-be-addressed-because-what-the-fuck-rape-culture issue needs to end. Look, shark attacks are terrible. We get that. But how many people die to shark attacks versus heart attacks? There's nothing wrong with focusing on combating heart attacks, the more widespread issue. This perfectly sums up the problem - "we can't address false rape accusations unt…
/r/MensRights18/06/12 04:26 PM
1

People believed this with no real proof and it identified the individuals involved.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 04:01 PM
2

Game of Trolls. It's a group of redditors who have turned trolling into a game. The more elaborate and annoying, the more points they get. I could see this being one of their games.
/r/MensRights15/06/12 06:57 PM
1

I haven't really been following it. When it first popped up I checked the kickstarter page and none of that was there. If it was there before I visited then it's embarrassing and clearly a step in the wrong direction. It almost seems like something srs or GoT would put together just to cause backlash against male gamers. If it really is a legit group then they've basically proven the point of the other video they're parodying.
/r/MensRights15/06/12 06:36 PM
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This is exactly what I was thinking. She's making him uncomfortable. I would definitely bring it up with HR.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 03:51 PM
1

You created the post and made no responses to anyone. Not pressing charges because I wouldn't wish jail time on anyone. The lesson here is, press charges first. There's no reason to let someone get away with what she did.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 03:27 AM
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People are unusually defensive here today. What matters is that most of the twits acting like this are men. I don't interact with a lot of men that act like this. In my personal experience women typically make these types of comments. My girlfriend, my ex girlfriend, even my mom says this to my dad sometimes.
/r/MensRights12/06/12 03:08 AM
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My girlfriend regularly comments on how much I put up with her. I don't think these comments are limited to men.
/r/MensRights12/06/12 01:09 AM
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There are people out there who think that it's ok to have sex with someone even if they don't consent. Just because they think it's ok doesn't mean it's not rape. That's what I'm getting at. If someone is totally unconscious at a party and someone goes up and has sex with her lifeless body then it's rape, even if the guy doesn't think it is. There are other similar situations where the rapist might think he/she is just having sex but is in fact raping a person. Male rape would be at the top of t…
/r/MensRights11/06/12 10:13 PM
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Remember that it's the message that's important, not the tone. I disagree. I think the message can be just as important. The same message delivered by two totally different personalities can have vastly different outcomes. The message that should be conveyed is "question everything" or "take every story with a grain of salt." If someone claims that they were raped, their story should be questioned and investigated. They should not be called a "whore who had it coming." You can question situation…
/r/MensRights11/06/12 09:48 PM
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If her "rapist" doesn't know he's a rapist, then he didn't rape her. Mens Rea means something. I defend mens rea in issues like this on a regular basis. But, there are occasions where rape can occur without someone knowingly committing it. On top of that, I'm not sure how anyone can make a judgment on the sign without having been there. I can't say one way or the other what happened to this person, but it could easily have been that she was raped.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 09:23 PM
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I don't think we should be commenting or praising comments on situations we know nothing about. The first poster might be inaccurate but surely we consider the second poster to be offensive. For one thing, I hope most people here don't resort to calling women whores.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 09:18 PM
1

That seemed like one of the worst ones to me. What would you be testing for? Comfort? I don't want to be the person who gets to the bottom of a water slide and announces how uncomfortable it was. Imagine the bruises.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 05:07 PM
1

You're decision to abort might change after speaking with your partner. No matter what, it should be discussed first though. If I wanted to get a vascectomy I would discuss or with my girlfriend. It's ultimately my decision but I know that it's something I need to discuss with her first.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 11:17 PM
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That's not how life decisions work in relationships. She has no obligation to listen to her SO. But, any decision as large as abortion should be discussed.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 11:04 PM
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The guy isn't saying that a man should be able to force a woman to have a child. He's saying that if you're in a relationship and your SO gets pregnant then she should talk to you before she makes a decision. That really doesn't seem like too much to ask. If someone from another sub came in here they'd see a lot of people arguing for women's right to bodily autonomy and men's right to financial abortion. Not a bad discussion to be having and certainly not one that should be offensive.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 03:35 PM
1

This is an extremely well thought out analysis. Nice job. What do you think of the new Tomb Raider, Beyond: Two Souls, and The Last of Us?
/r/MensRights09/06/12 04:09 PM
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I love justice porn but what bothers me is the delay. She hit him and he slapped her. But, the delay changes it from self-defense to retaliation. He should have arrested her as soon as she hit him.
/r/MensRights09/06/12 05:00 AM
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Minimally, it probably is. But, it doesn't seem like a problem to me. I always offer my bed to guests.
/r/MensRights09/06/12 03:47 AM
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Webpage Screenshot extension for Chrome. Link to this page
/r/MensRights09/06/12 03:45 AM
5

I had a similar argument in 2x the other day. The comments were basically "as long as rape exists I won't acknowledge false rape accusations as a problem." I'm not sure why it always breaks down to this shit. Both problems can exist at the same time.
/r/MensRights09/06/12 03:13 AM
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First comment: I give absolutely zero shits if guys are struggling with their body image due to media et al. You know why? Because women get it 50x worse. And it will never change. Why does it always break down to a fucking competition? From the same comment: I am not throwing my support behind the other gender's problems anytime soon. You may ask "but doesn't feminism cover mens rights?" No. No it does not. Note: I should qualify this. I've been reading the other comments and it appears as thou…
/r/MensRights09/06/12 02:42 AM
2

23 of more than 36,000 subscribers upvoted that comment. I wouldn't say that it's representative of the group.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 07:27 PM
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The difference is we're interested in discussion. I disagree with the comment you posted and stand by the idea that no one asks to be abused. If you'd like to open a dialogue on that topic or something else then please do. We're here to discuss things and youre welcome to join us. Sometimes unpopular ideas are discussed and debated. Note: Sometimes people do ask to be hit. It wouldn't be abuse then. It would be part of that person's sexual relationship.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 07:07 PM
1

I really hope that this works the way it sounds. This combined with male birth control could really change things for the better. That being said, I really can't imagine this applying to men. I think the language will make it dependent on the chance of getting pregnant.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 06:45 PM
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The commenter who believes that there are more important things in this world to focus on and women should stop whinging. I love that #1 is the response we always get when we even bring up false rape accusations. Even after Brian Banks people still dismiss this as a problem.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 02:52 AM
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I explained my reasoning above, but in case you don't reread posts for new comments. I don't think it'll apply to men because I think the reasoning behind the ruling will be that she could have become pregnant (or did) and so her body was affected by his actions. If she popped the condom then only her body would be affected, thus no assault on the man.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 02:32 AM
4

The conviction might pass, but the precedence will only ever apply to men.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 02:19 AM
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There's no way this will ever be applied to a woman. The legal theory seems to be the intent to change the victim's body (to impregnate). A man cannot be impregnated, therefore this rule can't apply to him. Scenario 1: The man pokes holes in the condom leading to the impregnation of the woman. The woman is the victim. Scenario 2: The woman pokes holes in the condom leading to the impregnation of the woman. There's no victim. The person who received bodily harm was the woman and so the man has no…
/r/MensRights08/06/12 02:17 AM
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An argument in 2x over financial abortion led me here. A good friend of mine is going through a divorce right now that hits on most of what we talk about. Even if I'm not directly affected I see how important a lot of these issues are.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 11:40 AM
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Just to be clear. I'm fairly certain this bot has been discussed and outed as a GoT troll. A pretty great idea for trolling. But, still a troll.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 05:59 AM
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I understand what you're getting at, but I want to be able to go to the posts and read the comments already there. I think we shouldn't link to /2x because they've asked us not to and it's probably not productive to link to any of the feminism subs. But, linking to random subs throughout reddit should be fine in my opinion. The rule should be "don't be immediately start downvoting comments in other threads and always remember not to downvote differing opinions."
/r/MensRights07/06/12 05:57 AM
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I'm not sure of my mom's viewpoints on the topics discussed here but most of my friends agree with me on these topics. Plus, my girlfriend follows my posts and hasn't complained about any of my views. How about you share SRS with your brother or father?
/r/MensRights06/06/12 05:13 PM
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i haven't, and considering birth is how we propegate the species i have to believe the frequency of danger is low. Considering how incredibly high the mortality rate of mothers used to be I think the fact that it's natural doesn't really factor into it's safety. Wikipedia page on maternal death - The World Health Organization estimates that approximately 1,000 women globally die every day due to complications from pregnancy or delivery. An article on the topic - In the first half of the nineteen…
/r/MensRights05/06/12 07:06 PM
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It's not fair because it can be dangerous to the woman's health carrying the fetus. It's unfair to tell a man that she's getting an abortion against his will. But, the danger to the woman outweighs the hurt feelings of the man in my opinion. Since we can avoid or undo the natural result of sex I really don't like using that argument. I keep hearing it from pro-lifers when it comes to abortion and feminists when it comes to financial abortion. I just don't think it has a place in these discussion…
/r/MensRights05/06/12 06:33 PM
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It's sad that she used Pretty Woman instead of something like The Iron Lady. But, prostitution is just a job. It's sad that people feel the need to shame someone for the job they're doing. Especially since they probably go home and watch porn.
/r/MensRights05/06/12 03:59 PM
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It's not fair, and it shouldnt be, to force a woman to carry a fetus she doesnt want. I think a better area to be fighting for is adoption. If men had the option to be single and adopt a kid then they wouldn't have to worry about this kind of thing as much.
/r/MensRights05/06/12 03:55 PM
2

Dr. Weir was one of my favorite characters on Atlantis. She gets a lot of shit for not being military but she makes great choices and stands up for people when she needs to.
/r/MensRights05/06/12 03:37 PM
2

I'm not a fan of the name calling in your title but the girl is in for the shock of her life when she enters "the real world."
/r/MensRights05/06/12 04:54 AM
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A large population of men feel this way but there's a growing group of us who don't. I have male friends in their twenties who are virgins and no one in my group would ever think of criticizing him for his choice. The same is true of the women in my group. If they want to have sex then more power to em. I want to have sex, why would I think they don't? Hopefully, more men and women will become conscious of the fact that men and women can have an equal amount of sex without their being a label fo…
/r/MensRights04/06/12 09:05 PM
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There are men on both sides. Those of us that consider ourselves to be sex positive don't typically care about our partners "number." We care about staying safe in every sexual encounter we have. The number of partners my girlfriend has had is irrelevant to how much I care about her and has no bearing on my impression of her. Note: Do you and your friends have the same standards for each other? Do you try to limit your sexual encounters, so as to not be labeled a slut?
/r/MensRights04/06/12 09:00 PM
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The only good thing about you having this mentality is that it means your ignorance will cause you to miss out on some amazing people, who won't have to be burdened with your ignorance. How much would you say is unhealthy? Since you can catch an STD during the first time together should we just say one time is too much?
/r/MensRights04/06/12 08:56 PM
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Acolossalbear is correct. It does not loosen through use. I've been with women who were "loose" who had only been with one other person (infrequently) and women who are extremely tight who had been with more than a few men. The misconception that women become looser over time is common, but wrong.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 08:54 PM
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Whose job is it to determine how much sex is too much?
/r/MensRights04/06/12 08:39 PM
14

You had me till "used vajeens."
/r/MensRights04/06/12 08:39 PM
4

I did some searching but couldn't find the post I was looking for. Every time I've seen someone transgendered post her they've received tons of support. There are always going to be ignorant people in every group but they tend to get downvoted in those threads. The majority of us welcome our transgendered brothers and sisters. Especially since they have an extremely unique perspective, full of insights, to offer us. We also welcome any women that would like to be a part of the discussion. See r/…
/r/MensRights04/06/12 07:11 PM
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You got drunk and had sex with someone who was also drunk. And you feel bad about it? This is a big part of the problem. You blame yourself because you (and too many others) view sex as something a man does to a woman.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 06:35 PM
1

A buddy of mine is going through a divorce. He won't have to pay alimony because she admitted to cheating. I think that's a pretty great step in the right direction. The problem now is that he's having to fight incredibly hard to get 50% custody of his kid. I don't know any state that would be any different in that regard. We're in Georgia.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 03:45 AM
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Since no one else is bringing it up, it sounds like we're dealing with a troll playing a long game. If not - If you still care about this girl then you should contact her and explain why you were suspicious but make sure she understands that you believe her. Tell her you were wrong and apologize. That's really all you can do aside from be a shoulder for her to cry on.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 09:11 PM
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Fuck me! This actually happened? Note: I love that the examples of how terrible Reddit is are posts from GoT and other trolls. I'm ok with the idea that women shouldn't be objectified in every post. But, using a post like "All women are naturally whores who should be beaten and used as sex tools. AMA" as an example of a reddit post is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 09:22 PM
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I feel like I've been exposed to people who spend their lives on the internet with the sole purpose of offending and hurting. I can tell you now that this is not who I am. I can understand the fact that you wish your girlfriend would blow you when she's on her period but if she doesn't want to then that's her option. Would it be great if she did want to? Sure. I know my girlfriend would be more than happy to. But, if she didn't want to then I would respect her enough to not get mad about it. May…
/r/MensRights01/06/12 04:12 PM
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I actually agree with a lot of the comments that you seem so against. If you really want to get off at some point in time then get yourself off. It's not her job or duty to take care of you when you're horny. Try r/sex if you want better feedback on the situation.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 03:34 PM
3

Nice detective work.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 02:27 PM
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The unique and devastating nature of rape is what makes false accusations so unique for that crime specifically. The accusation alone can ruin a person's life. It can get the person kicked out of school, it can cost a person their job, their family and their friends. It's also one of few crimes that can come down to two people's word. I can't think of any crime that a person can be accused of with the same outcome for the accused.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 05:26 AM
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Can you post pics of the extended conversation? Just blur out the names. It sounds like more of a joke to me.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 09:39 PM
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It's not funny, regardless of the gender. I doubt the response would be very different if you reversed genders though. The group laughing at that kind of thing isn't going to care if it's a man or a woman.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 08:54 PM
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Ah. I can see why you'd take offense to that kind of thing.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 01:10 AM
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We have to be able to laugh at some of this stuff. The picture is poking fun at the perfect prince image from Disney movies.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 12:46 AM
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There is a theory that oxytocin is released when men watch porn. Does that mean that men's oxytocin receptors dry up if they watch too much porn? I would love to believe you're both just trolls but you could just be misguided individuals. I would recommend r/sex or r/sexpositive for more information on a healthy respect/understanding of sex.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 05:19 PM
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Ugh. I hope your just trolling. A good key can unlock alot of locks. A good lock doesn't get unlocked easily. This is terrible and should really not be posted here. It's just slut shaming and has no place in a forum discussing mens rights, or anyone's rights for that matter.
/r/MensRights29/05/12 04:44 PM
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The arguments are all about the difference between joking about it and fantasizing about it. Which of the two do people think support rape culture? I imagine telling men that women commonly fantasize about being raped would contribute more to any type of rape positive culture.
/r/MensRights28/05/12 02:36 PM
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The comic didn't take place in the privacy of someones bedroom. It took place in a popular forum.
/r/MensRights28/05/12 02:29 PM
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It's definitely a type of shaming. But, that doesn't stop it from being great advice.
/r/MensRights28/05/12 04:42 AM
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I don't comment on what it's like to be a woman.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 07:08 PM
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There's a hell of a lot more to the lawsuit. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Child support isn't supposed to vest in the parent so in theory at least the wife shouldn't be able to sue, the child should. She can sue on the chid's behalf but it should have to be a separate lawsuit.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 05:54 PM
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I just don't understand why they all think they know what it's like to be a man. You would think a little light bulb would go on with all the "men can never understand what it's like to be a woman."
/r/MensRights25/05/12 02:45 PM
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I feel like you responded to the wrong comment. I'm arguing that women face harassment and the commenters in that post seem to think men are unaware and deny that it happens. We're not unaware and I didn't see anyone arguing that it doesn't happen.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 02:36 AM
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That thread is full of crazy. The argument that sexism can only happen to women is just astounding. How sheltered are these people that they believe they're the only people who have to deal with sexist behavior? The comments about how hard little girls have it really struck a nerve with me. They complain about men being oblivious but they shelter themselves from any and every complaint men might have. They are the worst kind of hypocrites.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 07:06 PM
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I think it's interesting that women will complain about how men can't understand how harassment works because they're not women. Then men bring up that women can actually be harassers and it's almost always dismissed. I don't think men get harassed as often as women but it definitely happens.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 02:45 PM
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I'm sure all of the women who play would appreciate all of the shaming being done in the article.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 04:39 AM
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My biggest problem with the comments from both posts are these comments: Do not comment in this thread saying "yeah right this could never happen." You are a man. It does not happen to you. You do not know for a fact that it does not happen to women. I don't know any man, and don't see any in the post, that would argue that women don't get catcalled. People are just looking to start a fight in those threads.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 12:28 AM
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I think the idea is that most people who are assholes should stop being assholes. If you yell out your car at girls or guys who are minding their own business, then stop doing that.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 12:24 AM
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And I am sure there is a sign there saying they reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. That's not really how it works. You can do random checks, but there has to be a method to the madness - every other person, every third person, or something. If they're just checking every guy with a bag then it's definitely discrimination. I'm not sure how laws work in this area but if the guy bought a ticket and then was denied entry because he refused to let them check his bag then he'd probably hav…
/r/MensRights23/05/12 03:04 PM
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Yes, those were all recent troll posts. You should feel very proud.
/r/MensRights23/05/12 03:02 PM
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The general consensus seems to be - Welcome! On a related note, there was an article the other day about a famous lesbian woman who was getting a divorce. She was forced to pay something like $50k per month in alimony. I think crazy alimony/palimony payments are something we would consider relevant for /mensrights in all facets. This includes crazy payments made by women.
/r/MensRights23/05/12 03:00 PM
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I think you should be the person you are and if people don't like it then fuck them. Someone will like you for who you are and someone will probably sleep with you for who you are. If not, then why would you want to be with them? Why would you want to change for someone else? People who complain about the feminisation of men in Western Society typically strike me as people who use terms like alpha and beta. I have no time for people like that. Be who you are and let others be who they are.
/r/MensRights22/05/12 04:25 PM
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It will be nice to be able to move onto the next issue. Once the issue of unplanned pregnancies is dealt with through male birth control hopefully we can refocus on parental rights.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 03:51 PM
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The male pill will let the male lie with impunity now too. "I'm not on the pill, honey, I swear." You can get seriously fucked in a divorce if you pull this kind of thing.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 03:50 PM
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Seriously, the comment they keep referring to has been mostly downvoted. I don't think anyone is really taking the comment seriously, except I guess Jezebel.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 03:31 PM
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If you're prefer a screenshot of the page.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 03:26 PM
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The idea that the definition of equality should be that all people are treated the same is something that women's studies scholars have challenged through research and theoretical work over the years -- including Shearman, who said "I don't necessarily agree that 'formal equality' works." Can someone explain this to me? I'm reading this article and the thought process in support of the center seems to be "there's a women's center so there should be a men's center." Why is formal equality a bad t…
/r/MensRights17/05/12 05:25 PM
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This comes up every week. I imagine people are downvoting because of that. Or, more likely, it's reddit just assigning automatic downvotes. Considering you've only a few I would say that's the reason.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 02:41 PM
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I refuse to believe this is real. It has to be a troll of some sort.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 02:37 PM
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My only issue with this is what if you really love the person you're with and want to spend the rest of your life with them? Do you move to a place that doesn't have some type of common law marriage? Do you just cut things off before common law marriage kicks in? I'm not prepared to do either of those things. I think this is an area where reform is possible.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 08:29 AM
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Rightsbot is doing God's work.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 04:41 AM
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They'll lose interest soon.
/r/MensRights16/05/12 01:55 PM
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The thing that gets me is that they all focus on the same thing - sex and looks. Which is something we rarely even talk about.
/r/MensRights16/05/12 01:54 PM
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That's not really the point of this subreddit. I'm not sure what gave you the impression that it was.
/r/MensRights16/05/12 01:50 PM
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It shows great maturity to admit that you're wrong and accept that you need to change. It's really impressive and we should definitely celebrate these victories.
/r/MensRights15/05/12 04:22 AM
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Link to the video referenced in the article.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 10:59 PM
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being a tomboy (i.e. acting like a boy) is normally pretty detrimental to girls and their social status. you're either lying about never hearing that accusation tossed, regardless of the actual wording, or you really haven't lived much. I was surprised by this too. Everyone seemed to just accept that girls are allowed to be tomboys and all the kids just accept that. I distinctly remember girls being picked on for dressing like boys. Plus, 2x has threads all the time created by girls who think th…
/r/MensRights14/05/12 08:33 AM
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Thanks for linking to the comments. I expected a jovial back and forth but there's some serious crazy in those comments. Edit: I love the fact that everything circles back to how shitty men are and how they've created every bad thing that exists. It's just incredible how narrow minded these people are.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 08:00 AM
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I saw that after I asked. I vote we just ignore it and move on.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 06:22 PM
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Just a troll subreddit. Ignore and stop posting about them.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 02:58 PM
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r/beatingwomen has been around for a while. A lot of other truly fucked up subreddits have been around and I haven't really seen anything connecting r/mensrights to them. Did something happen recently that I missed? Why is that crazy subreddit getting attention lately?
/r/MensRights13/05/12 06:03 AM
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Every time this argument comes up the explanation is that the man in the tiny outfit is supposed to be there for men to fantasize about being. So, sexy women in video games - there for men to fantasize about. Sexy men in video games - there for men to fantasize about being.
/r/MensRights12/05/12 04:02 PM
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As a pose to I don't know if autocorrect is to blame but it should be "as opposed to." I'm not trying to put you down, this will just be helpful to know before someone points it out in a meeting or something.
/r/MensRights12/05/12 04:00 PM
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That is a fucked up way of looking at it. It never really occurred to me that the judge never mentions the true victim in his reasoning.
/r/MensRights11/05/12 06:15 PM
2

Before anybody just says, oh no problem- just don't date girls who expect you to pay- I have to be completely honest when I say that I don't think I've ever met girls like that. Girls like that are out there. I think my girlfriend may have paid on our first real date. We end up going back and forth normally. How do you balance the knowledge that these things are unfair coupled with the reality that things are unfair, and if you expect to land a woman (i.e. not be alone) you have to suffer these …
/r/MensRights11/05/12 04:37 PM
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Next time you have one you should link it here. I've never had an intelligent conversation with one and every time I see one out and about in reddit they're acting crazy.
/r/MensRights11/05/12 08:07 AM
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Arguing with an SRSer is just pointless.
/r/MensRights11/05/12 07:46 AM
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Alimony laws. The idea that any person can owe another money just because they were in a relationship is baffling. Prison rape is a much nobler cause though.
/r/MensRights11/05/12 12:38 AM
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You can have whatever opinion you want but they're only really comparable in the sense that they're both unnecessary (for the most part) and they're both performed on genitalia. The female version is far more harmful and destructive than the male circumcision. One type of the female version is closing the vulva only to be reopened for sex and child birth. I agree that male circumcision is unnecessary, but they're only remotely comparable.
/r/MensRights10/05/12 05:00 AM
1

After looking at the recent top posts here I don't see any that tear down women and their accomplishments. Do you have any examples?
/r/MensRights09/05/12 10:04 PM
1

I'm not sure if I'm missing sarcasm here, but death grip is basically just masturbating too hard. It can create issues when you're trying to get off from softer stimulation like sex.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 04:04 PM
2

How do you think most people would feel about a sign that said "Black people, remember not to steal and do crack" or "Muslims, remember not to suicide bomb anything"? Nice analogy. This never really occurred to me. It would be interesting to put up posters with this type of message right next to the others just to show how absurd they are.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 08:45 AM
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I don't understand why I'm getting downvotes I'm sure there are some legitimate downvotes but reddit also uses bots to allot a certain number of downvotes to each thread. It keeps things balanced, or something. So if you get downvotes on a post, at least a few of them are from reddit bots. Note: Opening scene from Way of the Gun.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 07:09 AM
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I understand what you're saying. I hear the arguments in favor of not circumcising and they all seem to be that it's unnecessary and that it lessens the sexual experience. While I'm sure that's true, I still enjoy sex a great deal. I get off fairly easily and never really had trouble getting off. It's just not the end of the world. I will say that cut men have to worry about 'death grip', which is something uncut men never seem to deal with. For reference, I was circumcised as a baby. So, I've n…
/r/MensRights09/05/12 07:05 AM
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Haha, yeah. I lose track of when I read what here. I just remembered someone joining the ranks and talking about her SO and his issues with working in childcare.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 07:00 AM
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I won't be circumcising my kid but as a circumsised guy - it's not that bad.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 02:52 AM
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Well, we're happy to have you both. I'm sorry that it's because you have to deal with bigots though.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 09:54 PM
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Did your wife post last week? We had someone here the other day with almost the exact same story only they were talking about what their husband was dealing with. Is it really commonplace for guys who work in child care to have to tell the parents they aren't pedos?
/r/MensRights08/05/12 09:28 PM
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I don't believe coercion should be considered when we're talking about this. Threat, yes. Coercion, no. I wouldn't consider coercion an excuse if it were a rape scenario, so I can't really agree to considering it here. People have to have the willpower to say no at least part of the time. I can understand not saying no because there was a threat, but just because someone asked you more than once? No, that's not an acceptable excuse.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 07:32 PM
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I meant to clarify what I meant after putting such a simple response, but ran out of time. I just disagree with these viewpoints. The idea that pestering someone can lead to rape is just ridiculous.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 07:29 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 06:00 PM
1

I would love to be a stay at home dad. I tease my girlfriend about it sometimes. I have so many student loans that it would never be a viable option but it's fun to think about.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 05:43 PM
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too drunk to consent What level of drunk is too drunk? I'm ok with using this as a rule if 'too drunk' equals 'passed out' or 'can't walk'.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 05:27 PM
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I read some pretty steamy stuff, but was too upset to finish reading. They are in different states, and I have no reason to suspect infidelity. Steamy conversations with an ex would count as infidelity in my book.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 08:03 AM
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Legally yes. The argument is that the interest vests in the child, not the mother. Therefore, the child is entitled to your care as the father, be it monetarily or otherwise.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 12:28 AM
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Several of the guests apparently tried to pull the animals off as the quick-thinking woman tried to play dead. While the whole three-minute ordeal was going on, Violet’s 64-year-old husband Archie took photos of the entire attack – rather than run to help his wife. It sounds like people in the group were helping while he took photos. It seems like a strange way to react in the situation but I have no idea how the whole thing went down.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 06:32 PM
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2X is a subreddit that deals with some issues but it's also a place where women post their crafts, new outfits and discussions about relationships. I would expect there to be more "butt hurt" discussions happening in a subreddit like r/mensrights where the posts are limited to more serious issues.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 06:06 PM
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I believe you are arguing with a troll. Just a heads up. Try not to let them get in your head.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 05:11 PM
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argue for the right to comment on womens looks. It's a fundamental right - free speech. I'm not saying it's something that we as a group should go out and fight for, but it's a fairly important right to have. Even further than that is the general right to have your own thoughts. One commenter said she'd punch a guy in the dick if he sexualized her. How crazy is that? If he has a thought about her attractiveness then she's using going to sexually assault him? You'd do better to wait until some wo…
/r/MensRights07/05/12 04:24 PM
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It seems counter-intuitive to just create a masculine version of everything female related and send it back to the ladies of 2x.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 06:21 AM
3

I think you posted the same thing twice.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 04:41 AM
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The problem that I have with labeling everything as rape is that the punishment for the crime is incredibly severe, both legally and personally. To say that someone deserves 5+ years in prison for telling a girl that he's a doctor so he could have sex with her is just ludicrous.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 12:04 AM
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I'd have a hard time articulating how this is specifically a mens rights issue without just talking about free speech and thought police. The girl posted a picture and guys commented on how it looked. I don't think people should harass women when they post with "tits or gtfo" but simply saying, "that tat is sexy" or some other simple comment shouldn't cause such an uproar. I did go through the SRS thread on the topic and there are a few uncalled for comments that are just criticizing the girl wi…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 11:57 PM
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For me that would be a relationship-ender. That's not really how it works. The emotional relationship can end there, but the financial relationship is just beginning.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 11:10 PM
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That the people who see them might be a victim of a false rape accusation. Once someone is accused, they're no longer a person. That's the key here.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 10:19 PM
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I'm sure this will be a fun conversation, I hope it stays civil. His life revolves around bullshitting drunk women to trick them into having sex with him. This is not rape. Rape is a crime that carries with it minimum prison sentences and an average prison sentence of somewhere near 5 to 8 years. But the reason we ban rape is its effect on the victim (and moral issues). If those effects are present only 1 in 10 cases, then that is seriously bad. It might be rape lite, but it's still rape. If you…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 09:49 PM
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It's a weird system, but that does seem to be the way it works.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 08:18 PM
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They're a fairly dangerous group. The name-calling comes from feelings of harassment and abuse. On multiple occasions SRSers have posted fake stories here looking for support or encouragement only to throw it back in our faces. In another occasion they actually encouraged a member to commit suicide. The member hasn't been heard from since then and SRS members seemed to rejoice in the fact that there was one less man in the world. tl;dr The name calling comes from a deep hatred of SRS.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 08:17 PM
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Not at all. I mentioned something that didn't apply to your area and you corrected me. Nothing wrong with that. If I'm wrong about something then I hope people will bring it up so I don't say it again.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 07:18 PM
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I've argued with them many times. The main thing to remember is to not let them get you worked up. If you want to argue your point then do so. But, know that it won't go anywhere. No matter how sound your arguments are or how much data you throw at them to support it, your argument will always be invalid for one reason or another. If they can't fight you with facts or logic then it comes down to the patriarchy or male privilege. Once you realize that they're just trolls or extremely misguided in…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 07:17 PM
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Fair enough. Since this is in Seattle you should definitely bring it up.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 07:13 PM
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“He would pick the most intoxicated female, whether he’d be at a bar or at a party,” recalled Lt. Brandy Norris, the lead investigator on the case for College Station police. “He’s a serial rapist. He was smart enough to know he didn’t have to hide in the bushes and grab them as they were walking by.” From a new post in 2x. So, what she's saying is that women who are severely intoxicated are the typical target for this type of rapist. But, the argument still can't be made for drinking responsibl…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 07:07 PM
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But you can't specify gender in hiring practices. I think you actually can if the company is small enough - somewhere near 15 or less depending on the state.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:48 PM
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No actually amongst men most 'rapists' are actually congratulated for the act. This is the kind of shit getting upvoted in that thread. What kind of men do you hang out with? If they're congratulated, it's usually because they've left out details. However, most aren't congratulated because, frankly, nobody gives a shit about hearing with whom one has slept. The very next commented speaks the truth and is downvoted into oblivion.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:30 PM
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Well, unless it's a relatively small company.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 05:59 PM
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You are not. She posted a picture of a tattoo across her chest and got several very tame responses that said it looked sexy. Is that what the person was complaining about? Because, just a few comments down is a post with a guy with the same tattoo and the first response is "wood bang." I will agree that it sucks that women can't post their image here without a bunch of ten year olds shouting "tits or gtfo" but those comments get downvoted in a matter of seconds. And, comments that say "you're be…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 05:57 PM
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I'm not sure how you can further relate it to being a transguy but I think most of us would welcome our trans brothers. Your situation and outlook would be fascinating to hear about, considering the fact that you've seen society from both sides.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 05:48 PM
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Someone posted a story about being in a grocery store with his kid. The kid had a tantrum and the dad left the store with the kid in tow. A group of women followed him out to his car and called the police on him. I don't remember the outcome but the guy responded a hell of a lot better than I would have.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 04:25 AM
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Possibly the coolest guy I know is a nurse. He also had an online store where he sold tea cups he bought at estate sales. I have a lot of respect for that guy.
/r/MensRights04/05/12 11:11 PM
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This is the act of violence that they link to. I'm not sure why this atrocity is being linked to mens rights other than the fact that the guy didn't like feminism.
/r/MensRights03/05/12 07:52 PM
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Just related to men in general. The guy tells people to tell their boys to 'man up' and act like a boy instead of a girl. It seemed relevant, if it's not then I can delete the post.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 11:52 PM
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They're blanket warnings for drinking, not for being raped. They do not apply to all rape victims, but they do apply to many of them. Many =/= majority, but it does mean a large number. If any number of people don't get raped because someone brought them home safely instead of left them at the bar or because the person decided to drink a little less that night then I think the advice is effective. Do you seriously disagree that people should be safe while drinking?
/r/MensRights02/05/12 09:59 PM
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See my follow up to your other comment. You're misunderstanding me. Don't drink till you black out. Go drink and have fun, but be safe for fuck sake.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 09:49 PM
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Yes. Exactly. Women should no longer be allowed to drink. I think that's the best solution and would solve all of the world's problems. /s No. But, my advice to anyone that goes out drinking would be to be safe. Don't drink something that a stranger hands you. Don't drink in excess. If you want to get plastered then go out with a group of friends and make sure people know that when they leave you are supposed to be with them. Have someone who is staying sober in the group, or at least someone wh…
/r/MensRights02/05/12 09:48 PM
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You're just being argumentative here. As I said before, there are stories posted here all the time where someone says they drank too much and got raped. There's one that just popped up in 2X and one in r/feminism. I'm not saying that you should blame them for what happened to them. Obviously the rapist is the only person who should be blamed. But, you would not be incorrect in saying that that particular event could have been avoided by not drinking so much. If you wake up in a strangers bed bec…
/r/MensRights02/05/12 09:39 PM
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That makes sense. I didn't get a chance to read through the other comments. I'll take some time later and do that.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 08:23 PM
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I appreciate the links. I'll try to comment on most of them later. It seems like the majority of them are downvoted with at least one just being the results of a bbc documentary. I'm not sure how quoting a documentary could be considered sexist.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 07:46 PM
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The build-up is relevant to what happened to them. If I can help someone avoid being a victim again then I will. I think it would be irresponsible to watch someone do that kind of thing (get blackout drunk) over and over again without intervening.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 07:43 PM
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I'd rather not hurt someone's feelings but if it takes being rude and insensitive to change someone's dangerous habits then I have no problem going there. It's not the first thing I would do, but if I saw the person falling back into the dangerous habit then I wouldn't hesitate to talk to them about it.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 07:36 PM
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I'm all for giving as much support as I can to a person who's the victim of a crime. That being said, no one benefits from you saying "you did everything right, nothing you could have done could have prevented this" if the situation is such that they could, in fact, have possibly prevented it by not participating in some dangerous activity. If they go out and get drunk and pass out at a party and wake up next to some stranger do you then get to say "stop doing that"?
/r/MensRights02/05/12 07:34 PM
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You may as well start going to cancer wards and telling everyone how stupid they were for smoking cigarettes. The difference is that people can change their habits and prevent themselves from being victims again. For clarity: I'm referring to the 1/3 of victims who are in situations with strangers.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 07:31 PM
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Firstly, people don't decide to get into that state in the first place, it just happens as part of learning to drink and drinking. Spend anytime in a college town and you'll learn that this is definitely not the case. Many men and women go to bars with the intent to get blackout drunk. I have acquaintances that will regularly comment on how little they remember from the night before and boast about their plans to do the same that night.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 07:29 PM
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The message isn't supposed to be "rape victims can avoid being raped by doing x, y or z." It's supposed to be "some rape victims..." The message is different but it still applies for a lot of people. Thousands of women could benefit from it every year. A much larger number are victim to terrible circumstances that could only be avoided by teaching people not to rape people, and I would never tell someone who was in an abusive relationship that it was their fault.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 07:27 PM
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Why would you tell most victims this? If a girl gets raped by her boyfriend then why on Earth would I tell her that she could have avoided it?
/r/MensRights02/05/12 06:55 PM
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Can you share your source? My percentage of the 1/3 is still significantly higher than your 1/100,000. Even if we say only a quarter of those could be avoided we're still at 1 in every 12 rapes could be avoided by the victim.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 06:21 PM
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Did you even look at the site? Approximately 2/3 are by committed by someone the victim knows. The rest are by strangers. So, 1 in every 3 are committed by a stranger. Not 1 in 6 and definitely not 1 in 100,000.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 06:04 PM
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correlation between getting black out drunk, and rape, must be irrelevant, given that millions of people do it regularly and arent raped - that's a useless predictor. Are you saying that the person who got blackout drunk and got raped couldn't have avoided that particular situation by not getting blackout drunk? It seems to be the most common situation posted on reddit. Even if the majority of rapes occur in the home by someone you know, wouldn't at least some people be safer by not getting blac…
/r/MensRights02/05/12 05:59 PM
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One thing would be to not get blackout drunk in any situation, especially one where you are in an unfamiliar area. That seems to be a good rule of thumb for all people. There are situations where it can't be avoided - father with daughter, husband with wife, boyfriend with girlfriend, but there are also some situations where simply knowing your surroundings can help avoid any crime being committed against you.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 05:21 PM
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I may be missing something but I only saw a few posters saying something like "she was asking for it" and they were yelled at and downvoted. The rest of the thread is a discussion on other crimes vs rape stats and a lot of clarrifying what is meant by "don't put yourself in dangerous situations."
/r/MensRights02/05/12 04:32 PM
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We do police ourselves through upvotes and downvotes. I'll be impressed if you can find any "she was asking for it" posts with positive karma.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 03:57 PM
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I kind of figured. I keep seeing 'concern troll'. What does it actually mean?
/r/MensRights01/05/12 08:00 PM
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Situations like these are full of ambiguity. I'm not sure what other details you would like.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 07:35 PM
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There's no way of knowing if he's indisputably the father without a dna test. He could be the father or another guy could be the father.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 07:28 PM
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This is a clean answer but it doesn't really answer my second question. Should a man be on the hook for child support payments when there could be some other guy out there who's the real father? This is assuming that the guy has already broken ties with the mother and is not interested in being a father.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 07:22 PM
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I feel like we've all fallen prey to a very clever troll. I'm having a hard time putting my question into words. Are you saying that it's even worse because you've violated the kids rights if they turn out to not your kid? Do you think a man should be able to opt out of being put on the birth certificate and more importantly child support payments?
/r/MensRights01/05/12 07:06 PM
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So, your argument is that because kids have a right to not have their genetic thumbprint taken men should raise kids that aren't theirs and kids should grow up without a proper medical history?
/r/MensRights01/05/12 06:57 PM
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Whose rights are we shitting on? And, what are those rights?
/r/MensRights01/05/12 06:49 PM
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Only real confirmation I could find without digging deeper is in Ireland. If a person is a minor and is under the age of 18 he/she is therefore unable to give their consent for there DNA sample to be tested. In the majority of cases consent must be given by a child's mother in order for the child's DNA to be tested. If consent from the mother is not given, our laboratory will not conduct a DNA Test. Link
/r/MensRights01/05/12 06:48 PM
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That's actually one of my favorite comics. There are obviously differences between men and women. It's ok to acknowledge that one of those differences is related to sex.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 06:36 PM
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Knowing who the biological father is offers more than just identification. It can provide the child with health records that might become incredibly useful in diagnosing an illness the child possesses.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 06:29 PM
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In America the mother has to consent to the test. At least this is what I've come to understand.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 06:28 PM
5

It seems strange that the argument commonly boils down to - you can't call yourself a "men's rights activist" because it has 'men' in the name. You can either fight for equality for everyone and be a feminist or only women and be a feminist. Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't we just associate with both?
/r/MensRights30/04/12 09:00 PM
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I don't think either is the case. The second is closer to what the sign claims. I think she's using the words "I drank too much, flirted, and my shorts too short" to show what others have said to her in their victim blaming. I don't know her story, but that's the way I read her sign.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 05:01 PM
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The restraining order can be accessed by the public but in most cases it seems like the person would have to go to that court and request the file. Otherwise, it shouldn't have any impact on your chances of getting a job.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 04:58 PM
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This comment has over 200 likes. How stupid to go back to the person you dumped! What some men won't do because they think they will get dental work for almost nothing. For her to risk her dental license for the jerk was just as stupid....But given that I must say "way to go Anna"! Note: I hope someone updates this when she goes to prison. There can't be any other valid outcome.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 04:23 PM
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I'm not sure how the mod addition process goes here. But, I think we're ok at this point. There's no telling though.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 04:19 PM
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Did you press charges? Edit: It seems like if your neighbors saw the thing go down that you could file a police report and have them add a statement.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 02:57 PM
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I actually saw that last night. I have no idea what to think now. I'm still not clear on what actually happened. why would a "member of SRS" be involved with a group that has been leaking messages from both /r/SRSHome and /r/SRSFempire? Why would a "member of SRS" be involved with a group that has edited those messages to smear SRS? My response to this would be, does SRS actually care about their image? This could just be a smoke screen distraction, but that would be a conspiracy theory. If Vipe…
/r/MensRights30/04/12 02:55 PM
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Any sources? I don't really care what PUAs do but I'd be surprised to see them advocating unprotected sex.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 06:24 AM
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ShitRedditSays. I'm not sure how to qualify what they are other than a troll/circlejerk group. They sometimes post fake stories/comments here just to get a reaction. Viperz is a reddit user that posts fake comments claiming to be from /mensrights. He says some fucked up stuff and says he represents MR as a means of discrediting this subreddit.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 03:08 AM
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If you really did see me eating puppies then your belief in my puppy eating is on pretty solid ground. Don't ya think?
/r/MensRights30/04/12 02:19 AM
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Considering SRS's habit of deleting incriminating comments I'd be shocked if there are any undeleted mentions of viperz. If I had the evidence then I'd say "SRS claimed Viperz" instead of "I believe SRS claimed Viperz. I remember the post and I remember the comments praising him as their own. If I feel motivated later then I'll see if I can locate the post.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 12:40 AM
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I am. I'm ok not knowing. I imagine I'd have severe PE if I was anymore sensitive.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 12:21 AM
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I don't understand the motivation for this. Did Viperz send you?
/r/MensRights29/04/12 10:59 PM
1

I worked in the 501c3 legal clinic a few years ago. If we don't have an attorney that wants to do it then I can probably get our Dummies guide to non-profit incorporation.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 06:53 PM
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I believe SRS claimed Viperz. On a side note, the number of subscribed users goes up everyday and I believe several people have wandered over here based on Viperz comments only to find it not at all as he describes it. So, his negative ad campaign may be helping more than it's hurting.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 03:58 PM
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I watched #2 and I was just reminded why I don't watch Youtube "celebrities". Why in the world do people watch these? Note: Do people who saved themselves for marriage, then got a divorce get to go out and have sex with anyone now? Or, do they have to start saving themselves again? Do they try to argue their case with other people who are saving themselves? Otherwise, they'd never be allowed to marry anyone else. The one person they were allowed to have sex with no longer wants them.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 01:35 AM
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I understand your bias and that's fine. It's not even the journalists that I have a problem with. I don't think the police should release the names of the accused in situations like this. I don't expect journalists to not run stories like these.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 10:27 PM
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People lose their jobs, get kicked out of school and lose the support of friends and family everyday when accusations like these come up. Even if they're unfounded people get destroyed by this kind of thing.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 08:37 PM
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I loved when women included this kind of thing in their profile. It was an easy way for me to rule out the crazies without having to go through the trouble of actually messaging them.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 08:05 PM
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Plus, calling a woman a bitch is typically frowned upon.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 06:35 PM
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The only argument I've seen in favor of showing the accused name and photo is that it prevents secret arrests. But, there are other safeguards in place to prevent that kind of thing - like phone calls, right to an attorney. The only thing sharing the accused name and photo does is set the guy up for losing his job, any chance for a decent job in his area, his friends and his family.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 04:39 PM
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I think the main issue is that his photo was shown before the truth came out. We have a similar system with 'due prominence' but his name/photo never should have been displayed in the first place.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 04:15 PM
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If I learned anything in law school it was this.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 04:12 PM
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I see what you're saying. Discrimination is the wrong word. The laws are crazy, but I was wrong in my wording. Thanks.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 04:09 PM
2

Again I'm not making a men vs women comparison. I agree 100% that men have zero rights in this arena. I just acknowledge that abortion laws are ridiculous.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 05:08 AM
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It's sad that this kind of thing can happen and happens often. I would say go to the panel, but considering the recent changes in burdens of proof in schools I would spend more time considering option A first.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 09:33 PM
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Reminds me of these.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 08:31 PM
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I don't think anyone would argue that women and men are equal when it comes to sports or other physical feats. We had girls try out for the football team, one played but only as a kicker and only on junior varsity. Most of the other girls that tried out would have been crushed on the field.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 07:32 PM
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Two simple examples would be the fact that women are often viewed as whores if they sleep around while men are viewed as champions. I'm sure there are studies showing many different angles of this concept but in my experience it's not a myth. My own brother doesn't want to date a whore and many of my female friends complain about how they have to lie about their history because men judge them for it. They won't even share info with each other because of fear of judgment. Every guy I know shares …
/r/MensRights26/04/12 06:25 PM
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It's hard to have this kind of discussion here, just like it's hard to have the opposite discussion in r/feminism. Two simple examples would be the fact that women are often viewed as whores if they sleep around while men are viewed as champions. The issue there is that it's often women who are the one's placing judgment. Another simple example would be the crazy abortion laws that have been enacted in some areas. Grapeban mentioned one such law.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 06:14 PM
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This is how I see it. It's typically an asshole move to say "you had x bad thing happen to you, you should have done this." I don't think it's victim blaming, it's just generally rude. If you say to someone new to an area "don't go into x neighborhood at night" then you're just giving someone helpful advice. It's not helpful after the fact when the person has been mugged.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 02:58 AM
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Hard to explain without a wall of text. They're basically a group of people that consider themselves the saviors of feminism (as far as I can tell). They hate everyone that doesn't agree with everything they believe (which is downright insane at times). They're a scary bunch. They tend to post fake stories here for laughs. For some reason they get enjoyment out of other people's misery.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 02:44 AM
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Umm...no. mramramra is an SRS troll account. There are several with mr related screen names.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 12:59 AM
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Let's just assume these stories are true until disproven. It doesn't hurt to offer helpful advice even if it turns out to be a troll.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 11:59 PM
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mramramra took credit for it and posted about it in an SRS sub. Note: They comment on this subreddit daily.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 11:54 PM
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Congrats on the situation! It's great that everyone was so understanding and logical. Guess who's still going to end up paying 3 years of alimony and just lost everything he owned except his apartment and a single mattress? I'll never understand how equality means alimony payments.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 10:09 PM
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I understand that. The article was terrible, but she probably got a lot of tweets today that made no sense without the context of the fake tweets.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 09:33 PM
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I don't twitter either but I'm sure someone here could retweet the original image to her. Just showing her that any negative press she got was because of SRS.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 09:27 PM
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It has officially been claimed by SRS as another troll.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 09:20 PM
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I don't understand how people benefit from something like this. You posted hateful comments under the guise that Frida made the comments. Then, people responded to those comments similarly. Well played, I guess.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 09:19 PM
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Screenshot of the page for those of you that don't want to contribute page views to this troll.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 08:26 PM
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I totally understand. I was mostly referring to the other guy when I asked if he wanted to be involved in the kids life. The system is so broken when it comes to the way guys are treated. It would be nice if you could take half custody and not pay child support since that would be the fairest way to do things. But, instead men end up paying child support and getting every other weekend if they're lucky. They want to make things easy for the mother so she doesn't throw away a baby, but a guy who'…
/r/MensRights25/04/12 08:22 PM
2

Truth - I do not think that word means what you think it means.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 07:59 PM
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From what I've come to understand here, the state will basically assume you're the father if you don't prove that you're not.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 07:40 PM
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I have no real advice other than get a good lawyer. Other than that, this is why I'm here. These stories are so heartbreaking. Someone posted in 2x about a guy that bailed (left the country) and everyone's calling him a scumbag. But, I'm so torn between thinking what a scumbag for leaving his kid"don't they want to be involved with their kid?" and "well, at least he dodged 18-21 years of child support." I want people to be there for their kids and have positive relationships but it's hard when t…
/r/MensRights25/04/12 07:13 PM
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This is the exact point that I've been trying to get across. Thank you.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 08:11 PM
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The guy is a shithead but she is the one that climbed on top of him. He didn't fight her off him but she's still the aggressor here. I don't really think she's a rapist. But, I also don't think he's a rapist.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 07:49 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear that this has happened to you. I haven't dealt with false claims myself but I'm very familiar with the impact they can have. People seem to forget that they truly ruin lives. Ops story is not uncommon. This is an extreme example, but it's a great example of what can happen to sex offenders: Julia Tuttle Causeway Sex Offender Colony
/r/MensRights24/04/12 07:41 PM
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We've already been discussing it. If the roles were reversed then that entire SRS thread would just be victim blaming. The guy gets raped, doesn't fight off his rapist and therefore becomes the attacker/rapist. I don't normally complain about double standards, but holy shit. My comment from the previous thread: "We are literally trying to say that because the victim didn't stop the rape from continuing he becomes the rapist."
/r/MensRights24/04/12 07:37 PM
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If the roles were reversed there would be an outcry of victim blaming. People seem to believe that because he didn't say no or fight her off that he became the aggressor.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 06:35 PM
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I agree that the guy was an incredible douche. But, it's far from rape here. He didn't trick her to have sex with her. He fell asleep next to her and she raped him. The "I didn't know it wasn't my boyfriend" excuse would never work if the roles were reversed. I understand wanting to make it work here because the guy was a douchebag but that's just not how law is supposed to work. Edit: We are literally trying to say that because the victim didn't stop the rape from continuing he becomes the rapi…
/r/MensRights24/04/12 04:54 PM
1

It's a really shitty and probably fake, but in what way did he rape her? She climbed on top of him and started riding him. I'm half asleep, but I wake up with a full raging hard on, and her pulling my pants down. She mounts me. How in the hell is anyone interpreting this as him raping her? Because he didn't stop her from having sex with him he's the rapist?
/r/MensRights24/04/12 04:26 PM
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I was brought here by a thread in 2x. It was about financial abortions and the debate basically ended with me getting yelled at for supporting it. I'm here now to read the craziness, become more educated and hopefully provide some personal feedback. I also subscribe to r/feminism and comment there. I tried reading r/srsdiscussion because it's supposed to be a more inviting area of discussion but I was wrong. They're just as nuts as the rest of SRS. The main issues I'm concerned with are rape (pa…
/r/MensRights24/04/12 03:05 AM
2

It's a moving commercial and it would have been great if they had included fathers. But, I don't think every ad has to include both genders to be good.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 01:14 AM
1

There are some twisted comments on the page, but the vast majority seem to be positive in the boys favor. The main issue I have with all of it is the "she was only 14" comments. We have no idea how old the boy is. He could be 12 or he could be 18.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 01:04 AM
1

Plus the surrogate wouldn't be considered a 'merchant'. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I just think this is all interesting and is fun to debate.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 11:02 PM
1

I think the ruling is wrong, but not under this code. There are different rules for surrogate situations which I'm not familiar with. I do know that in most cases they're given the option to change their mind about passing the baby along to the true parents. Regarding the UCC, I doubt they consider a baby to be a 'good'.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 10:25 PM
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Here's the follow up. The surrogate mother won. Unbelievable stuff gets posted here everyday. This is easily the craziest in my opinion.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 09:37 PM
1

I didn't see this posted, but here's the follow up. The surrogate mother won A lot of crazy, near unbelievable stuff, gets posted here. This is easily the craziest in my opinion.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 09:33 PM
9

to protect the kid I feel like people get away with a lot of shit under the guise of child protection.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 09:29 PM
3

Oral agreements, last I checked, were still binding. Rarely are oral agreements binding and in this situation it certainly would not be.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 09:25 PM
6

Well that's something I can mark off the list of options if i ever needed it.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 05:22 PM
4

It does, these kinds of things pop up all the time. Usually they just get deleted and we never know if it's just some type of troll or just a misguided individual.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 08:13 AM
4

I agree that we shouldn't be name calling. But, this isn't a bad decision like skipping class is a bad decision. This is a decision that could potentially ruin someone's life.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 08:12 AM
6

You paint a very strong picture that the girl is under age. It could be statutory rape, but there's no evidence in her story that the guy is any older than she is.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 07:57 AM
11

The guys age isn't known as far as I can tell. It's only statutory rape if he's an adult.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 07:18 AM
3

It was just a thought. I feel like a lot of people admit more than they should here. Like when guys post stuff about their divorce. That information could be used against them later if their name was linked to their account. This is a similar situation, but the account will probably be abandoned after today.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 07:15 AM
17

It could be statutory rape, but we don't know how old the guy is. He could have been 13 for all we know.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 07:13 AM
2

It is very relevant here. It also seems like a troll post. Something posted to get people worked up in askreddit. If it's not, then some poor kid's life is about to be ruined. I'm not sure what can be done other than getting a screenshot of the post. If she tells the same story that she's told here then it should be clear that it was more of a misunderstanding than anything else.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 07:08 AM
4

It seems like the ultimate goal should be for feminists and MRAs to meet somewhere in the middle and come to some agreements on things. I'm not sure why so many members here are opposed to feminists posting and commenting other than the SRS trolls that seem to encourage hate. Welcome to the subreddit. Hopefully you'll be met with less negativity in the future. I think some people just feel so burned by the system that it's hard for them to relax and have a civil conversation with someone they vi…
/r/MensRights21/04/12 10:18 PM
1

We do this kind of interpreting/assuming all the time. It's a way to put narrative to the few words people sometimes tell their stories with. I think if the commenter were more absolute in their story then I would agree with you. But, it's framed as one possible scenario. I agree with themountaingoat though. There's no real evidence of pressuring other than the husband wanted kids. Simply stating a want should not be conceived as pressuring someone. On the other hand, there could have been a sce…
/r/MensRights21/04/12 06:10 PM
1

I agree. People have to be responsible for their own decisions. I think I would agree with op if the comment were more directed but it doesn't speak in absolutes, only possibilities. Which is something we do in this subreddit all the time. I do think pressuring might be the wrong word. As you said, it could just mean that he simply said he wanted kids eventually. If that's the case then it could hardly be called pressuring.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 06:08 PM
1

I don't know the original situation but this comment always scared me: She never appeared to be drunk, and by the time we had sex no one had drank in three hours. Based on the comments in the post it sounds like there were witnesses. If this comment is true then op is probably ok.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 05:19 PM
6

We read between the lines in a lot of situations. I don't think the commenter made a bad assumption in her comment. Based on the post and the comment being referred to it seems like a decent interpretation of the situation.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 05:14 PM
1

I don't live in the USA and I'm not affected by your laws. If you only care about how things are for you then you can move right along.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 02:31 AM
3

I was in a situation with my ex that easily could have led to this kind of thing. She had been mugged and punched in the face. She called me instead of 911 and I picked her up and rushed her to the hospital. When we got there everyone watched me like a hawk. The doctor asked me several times about what happened. We both (my ex and I) explained that she had been mugged and the response we got was basically "Uh huh, ok. What really happened?" The police showed up and brought me into another room. …
/r/MensRights20/04/12 04:37 PM
1

Ugh, I can't imagine trying to reason with this person. I can already picture the fight had nightly or weekly over fucking pageants. The title sounds a little misleading though. I hope we're saying 'uncaring' in the sense that she does whatever she wants and not that she's an 'uncaring' wife to her husband or something.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 04:29 PM
1

It just occurred to me that they might not be able to tell the difference between /mr members and trolls. What if their own trolls are the ones they keep referring to when they say this subreddit encourages rape? Wasn't that what Viperz or whatever preached all over reddit?
/r/MensRights20/04/12 04:21 PM
2

Beidaut said she is "absolutely" considering taking legal action against the woman that sent the email because she believes her privacy has been violated. She has already spoken to at least one other woman on the list who is similarly upset. I don't think anything will come of this but what a great situation that would be.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 04:16 PM
1

I like the idea of celebrating good deeds but shouldn't the motivation for doing the good deed be that you helped someone?
/r/MensRights20/04/12 06:02 AM
1

Link to 2X comments. It's not a link to that specific comment, but the general tone is fairly positive in the guys favor.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 05:20 PM
4

Adding the son doesn't really change anything. It's still one party recording another without their consent.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 05:17 PM
3

The evidence, as it's been presented, is that the man went in with the intent to disrobe in protest. The woman may have done the same thing but it sounds more like she's just crazy.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 05:13 PM
3

That was the exact argument that I was trying to make. The discussion came right after Friess made the aspirin comment. For some reason people couldn't understand the hypocrisy of condemning him for his words while spouting them back at me.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 04:16 PM
68

Person A - "Why don't people take our movement seriously?" Person B - "What are your short term goals right now?" Person A - "Banning urinals and peeing standing up." Person B - Face palm
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:47 PM
2

It seems like this would have been a great opportunity for feminists to take on the plight of a man in a situation similar to those that they deal with frequently. Instead, Jezebel takes the opportunity to mock the situation. I know they're trying to make a point about how women are treated in these situations but it just comes off as incredibly petty.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:23 PM
2

Good points. Thanks for commenting.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 01:55 PM
1

But he already gave consent Does he not have the option to revoke consent? Isn't that how it's supposed to work?
/r/MensRights19/04/12 01:53 PM
1

Such a sad situation. Hopefully it will all work out and the mother won't request child support later on.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 01:50 PM
1

Of course. And she'd do the same for me. She already carries my junk in her purse when we go out.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 05:52 AM
4

I just wandered over there and this story was kind of awesome.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 04:56 AM
7

In that same thread I argued in favor of financial abortions and was told that I was a racist. The reasoning was (this is not my reasoning): More black women are poor and therefore cannot afford to have a child on their own. Therefore, if the father doesn't have to pay then more black women than white women will have to get abortions. Therefore I am racist against black women. I argued with this person for a few minutes and assumed they were just trolling.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 04:49 AM
8

It's been pretty good so far. There are extremists on both sides but I think the majority of people here are trying to make things better.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 04:34 AM
18

That seems to be the biggest disconnect, and it happens here and in the feminist areas. If someone acts like an asshole it's because they're an asshole not because they're a man or a woman. that is the exact reason many pro-lifers use against abortion. I pointed this out and got yelled at.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:46 AM
5

I wonder if someone could get in touch with the guy to find out what his plans are for continuing the fight. This could be a situation where members here could help raise money for the guys legal counsel if he's planning on abandoning the fight due to financial reasons.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:38 AM
3

All of that makes sense. I'll look over the study when I have more time later. Thanks!
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:36 AM
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I left during a debate over the mans right in a pregnancy situation. The resounding response was "he made the choice to have sex so he has to deal with the consequences." I wandered over here, after previously avoiding the subreddit because of its bad publicity.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:31 AM
7

That's one of the topics here that I have no idea what to think on. There are so many studies going both ways that it's hard for me to form a real opinion on the issue.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 03:01 AM
12

That's the biggest issue I think. If there was a way to guarantee that she wouldn't demand money later then I'd almost agree with the ruling.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 02:57 AM
3

The guy should take his story to more media outlets. It seems like no one but the court agrees with the decision. Note: Although, maybe it'd be better to not stir the pot anymore. Edit: Could the guy keep fighting this decision? Can this go to a higher court?
/r/MensRights19/04/12 02:40 AM
1

It would depend on the situation. If she does it all the time then I'd get annoyed. If it happened once or twice then I wouldn't think twice to help her out. If It became habit then I'd definitely recommend something like carrying a pair of sneakers or flip flops.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 09:52 PM
0

I understand what you're getting at but I can see passing my shoes off to my girlfriend after a long night out. It wouldn't be a "the woman deserves my shoes" situation but I can walk the sidewalk in my socks and she can take off her uncomfortable shoes for a little while.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 09:37 PM
2

Or, the commenter is that kind of person. Every other person commenting here has tried to give helpful advice.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 05:20 PM
3

I've been trying to find articles that were commenting on her but all I can find are articles describing her backlash. Did they just say that her face looked puffy? Because it did. I don't understand the argument that saying someone looks different or even bad can be construed as misogynistic. I would say the same thing and have said the same thing about guys in the media. People all over the web commented on Jonah Hill and Seth Rogan losing weight.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 04:10 PM
5

I really don't know how one is supposed to convey banjo sounds with text. I tried. For some reason I read it like six times before moving on to the rest of your comment. I really don't get online trolling. Everyone responds with "nice try troll" and goes on with their day. Nothing was accomplished except someone wasted time creating a long-winded rant that just sounds batshit crazy.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 09:39 PM
2

I was having a conversation with you and midway you started with the personal attacks. Feel superior if you have to though.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 09:30 PM
5

How much in total does she owe you? If you're just asking for what is owed then it's not extortion, her mom's an idiot. You should be fine. If she tries to file charges the cops will probably just tell her she should take the deal. If you want to help your situation then you could try to get in contact with the prosecutors office and ask if that's a deal they'd be interested in making on your behalf. *This is not legal advice and should not be taken as such.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 09:17 PM
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I think the idea was more about creepy people (guys and gals) that refuse to take no for an answer. Some of the commenters mistook it to be guys in general while others understood that it was more about creeps in general.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 09:05 PM
6

Ugh. I read through that post. Scary place. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable there in any situation.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 09:03 PM
1

I guess the people who browse new posts in [1] /r/MensRights are looking for articles about male rape and females lying about being raped, and that's it. I'm not sure where you got that from my comment on slut shaming, but ok. I read through your comments and it was mostly fluff. The tl;dr seems to be that everyone is different. Which is true. Do you want a cookie?
/r/MensRights17/04/12 08:37 PM
1

It's a clever analogy if you believe that women should have few partners and men should have many. There's no reason to believe that, but many people still do.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 08:35 PM
1

It is typically mean for sleeping around. But, if a person enjoys having multiple partners then they shouldn't be shamed for it.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 08:30 PM
3

I just don't get the point of all of that. I think people just have way too much time on their hands.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 08:25 PM
2

It's just slut shaming. That's about it. Women can (and imho should) enjoy sex just as much as men. If you decide that you don't want to date a 'slut' then you're narrowing your dating pool and possibly missing out on someone that could be a great person for you.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 08:24 PM
2

Their new attempt at trolling is just being extremely misogynistic, hoping people here will agree with them. They're getting consistently deleted by mods who are doing a great job catching them lately. Edit: Wrong use of there
/r/MensRights17/04/12 03:07 PM
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I don't typically get involved in this type of argument but, this isn't how studies are supposed to be done: The wage gap statistic, however, doesn’t compare two similarly situated co-workers of different sexes, working in the same industry, performing the same work, for the same number of hours a day. It merely reflects the median earnings of all men and women classified as full-time workers.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:46 PM
1

Oh I didn't mean you in particular. I didn't think you did. People here and in other similar subreddits do get a little agitated sometimes. In my opinion, based solely on the short article, I would say that it seems like they were scamming the guy. That's just what it sounds like to me. But, for all we know the guy the guy might have told three girls that he would buy them all dinner. Then, for shits and giggles he left the restaurant to leave them with their bill and his. There's not enough inf…
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:57 AM
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Verbal commitments are legally binding if provable. Not as a contract. I actually replied to this same thing to another commenter. Promissory estoppel might work, but it would depend on more details than we have. tl;dr people are allowing their jimmies to needlessly be rustled. I just like discussing this stuff. I have no idea what actually happened so no jimmies are rustled here.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:42 AM
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Most of us aren't really assuming anything. Most of the top comments (other than jokes) are just debating the situation. In fact, several pointed out the many unknowns of the article. The circle jerk you speak of is only being had in the dredges bowels of this posts comments.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:38 AM
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Well, to be fair you could quantify sex through time and hourly wage of prostitutes. I'm not arguing that you should, just pointing out the obvious. Sex cannot be part of a valid contract (unless prostitution is legal). Promising to pay for someone's dinner with nothing promised in return is also not a valid contract.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:35 AM
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No, in neither situation is there any contractual obligation.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:27 AM
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The agreement to pay for their food wouldn't be any type of valid contract. If they had any right to any legal action it'd be under promissory estoppel as another member pointed out earlier.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:26 AM
1

people will go out of their way to sugarcoat the things women do that may play a part in that path leading up to rape I get the point - "don't intentionally get into dangerous situations." I think your and my definition of what is dangerous is different. To me, being a tease should not be considered dangerous. Especially if we believe (and I do) that the vast majority of men are not rapists. If I tell a guy to stay out of a dangerous neighborhood it's because bad shit happens there on a regular …
/r/MensRights17/04/12 12:14 AM
1

their actions and behaviours are unintentionally "begging to get raped" Yeah, I'm still not ok with this wording. Using your analogy at the end I'm not 'begging' to get wet because I don't carry my umbrella when the chance of rain is very low. Begging is just not the right language here and imho should never be used.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 11:31 PM
1

I understand the notion that people shouldn't put themselves in dangerous situations and I agree with it. Every person should exercise self-awareness and try to protect themselves. However, I'm not going to defend or listen to someone that says anyone is begging to get raped, just like I'm not going to defend or listen to anyone that says all men should be castrated. Also, I'm not really sure we should be comparing men to bears in this situation. I, and most men, can control themselves when sexu…
/r/MensRights16/04/12 10:36 PM
3

No idea, please keep us updated though. What state do you live in? That should help people with any advice.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 10:25 PM
2

I didn't even look at who commented. I just remember thinking that it got the proper response - disgust - from most of the members here. Some people pointed out that the article was meant to make people think about the topic but I think it went about it the wrong way.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 08:18 PM
3

This article was posted some time ago and the biggest response from this community was disgust.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 08:09 PM
2

Link to the most recent time this was posted here with the majority of the top comments showing disgust for Paul Elam's words in the article.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 08:08 PM
2

In the law of contracts, the doctrine that provides that if a party changes his or her position substantially either by acting or forbearing from acting in reliance upon a gratuitous promise, then that party can enforce the promise although the essential elements of a contract are not present. That makes sense. If they had any legal argument this would be it. Thanks. Although, for the sake of argument, it might depend on their dining habits. If they commonly go out then what happened can't reall…
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:06 PM
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is that the sort of behaviour you want fostered? No. Am I prepared to call it a crime? No. bar on withdrawing from unilateral obligations if you know the other party has relied on it; that would probably apply here. There could be something like that here that I'm not aware of. I have no idea what the facts of this situation really are. I'm just commenting on the legal part of it.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 04:51 PM
5

I would love to have seen the police officer writing up the report while listening to the three girls describe how they had some sort of verbal contract.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 04:42 PM
12

It's a shady situation but I can't see anything illegal about what he did - outside of not paying for his own meal. There can't be a contract here so what legal theory would support his obligation to pay for her meal?
/r/MensRights16/04/12 04:36 PM
3

Well played.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 06:03 AM
2

It would be considered assault in the US as well. But, that doesn't change the fact that he tracked her down to slap her. All of the events happened separately, each would count as assault and neither the guy or his ex would have a valid self-defense claim (except for when the guy held the ex down).
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:39 AM
2

It seems counter-intuitive to encourage what you fight against even if it's fake encouragement.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:32 AM
2

It seems counter-intuitive to encourage what you fight against even if it's fake encouragement.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:32 AM
1

Does this person have a presence anywhere other than youtube? We know there are crazies in SRS. What if this is the MR equivalent of a crazy SRSer just pretending to be a batshit insane feminist for trolling purposes?
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:28 AM
1

I'm sorry that this happened to you. No one should have to put up with this kind of thing. Press charges and keep her from doing this to someone else. Note: This seems like the perfect troll post with troll responses already popping up. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and I hope other commenters will as well. I'm not sure what the purpose of these posts are other than making it more and more difficult for real people with real problems. If your story is real, then I'm sorry for wha…
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:23 AM
4

I'm calling troll on this one. It's just too crazy.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 05:15 AM
2

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 01:31 AM
3

Why post here and not r/videos?
/r/MensRights16/04/12 01:06 AM
14

She's going to be in "it doesn't matter who, but someone has to pay for my child" mode - and that's dangerous. That's such a terrifying statement. My brother just got out of a relationship with a girl that I was convinced was going to get pregnant on purpose. Thankfully he ended things before it got to that point.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 10:29 PM
36

There are some crazy situations posted here all the time but I think you should be fine. The kid isn't yours, you weren't even with the girl when she had it, and you've played no part in the kids life. Typically, men who get saddled with child support payments for another guys kid played the role as father for a little while. Courts will rule, sometimes, that the kid became reliant on the person and therefore he is liable for the kid. The logic is crazy, but there it is. The 'get a lawyer' advic…
/r/MensRights15/04/12 10:21 PM
3

True. It just popped into my head when I read your list.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 10:01 PM
3

Does Philadelphia count? I believe it has all three of the above.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 09:32 PM
7

Does there have to be a higher rate of false rape claims than other crimes to make it an important issue?
/r/MensRights15/04/12 07:39 PM
1

The judge could order that the woman playing the role of the second mother is the legal second parent and so the natural father does not owe child support. This happens all the time where guys who take care of kids that aren't theirs end up with child support payments.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 04:23 PM
-2

Why is he obligated to pay anything as the legal parent? There are already two other legal parents paying for the kid. How many parents does a child have a right to?
/r/MensRights15/04/12 04:20 PM
2

There's no way to know what agreements were made when this all went down. The donation was made in 1989 - I don't know how the laws have evolved but this kind of thing might have been more rare in the 80's. If you think, 'the guy wanted to be a father and now he's supporting his kid' then the situation doesn't sound so bad. But, there was another couple involved. "has never known anyone other than [the man] to be his father," Well, the kid had two mothers. Would your opinion be different if it w…
/r/MensRights15/04/12 06:38 AM
2

I'll bite. Do all women disappear one day or did they just never exist?
/r/MensRights14/04/12 09:54 PM
2

I think a good general rule is that violence is only acceptable against another human if it's justified through self-defense or in defense of others. This would include defending yourself against any type of violence including rape. There's no reason to distinguish between men and women in a violent situation. The differing stature can become relevant but the outcome should be the same for a small woman as it would be for a small man. Example: If a 200 pound guy or gal attacked me then I, as a 1…
/r/MensRights14/04/12 08:03 PM
10

Will she be fined or go to jail? This is a really interesting case and I'd be curious to see how it turns out. If I'm reading this correctly, there's a guy somewhere that's been paying child support for a kid that isn't his. And, there's another guy that in theory should have been paying child support this entire time. So, if the actual father is notified will the courts require him to back-pay child support? Will the fake father get reimbursed? Does she get double money, the money paid by the f…
/r/MensRights14/04/12 07:44 PM
4

she explains she became accustomed to a monthly budget of $128,000 during her nearly 9-year relationship with the iconic rocker. Why is this at all relevant? Does the fact that she lived a lavish lifestyle for a while give her a natural right to continue living that lifestyle?
/r/MensRights11/04/12 05:51 PM
2

women sitting on juries don't vote to convict other women who have committed violent crimes against men, even when the evidence is overwhelming, because they are convinced that the system is rigged, the cops must be lying, the DA has a spite against the defendant, etc. Do you have any evidence that supports this claim? I haven't really seen reports on this. I have worked with a defense attorney who commonly chooses women for his juries in rape cases because they have a tendency to vote 'not guil…
/r/MensRights11/04/12 04:23 PM
12

Do not include anything to do with child support in any fashion. If the judge is thinking of throwing it out then having illegal portions wouldn't help. Basically you'd want to have terms that are fair for both of you. If you just put "she gets nothing, I get everything" then you might have a hard time getting it honored. If it says "she keeps what she makes, I keep what I make, we split communal property" and define communal property then you'll have an easier time.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:02 PM
1

Not freaking out on him every time he posts does not constitute associating with him. Reddit is a big place, if I decide that I'm not going to stay in a subreddit because one of the subscribers did something illegal or immoral then I'd have to unsubscribe to everything. Next question. Edit: Also, no I am not saying actually raping a person is the same as trolling someone on the internet. I never said that and, as far as I can tell, no one here has said that.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 05:58 PM
0

You took one part of my comment and addressed nothing else. If he made the comment you posted I would comment on it and we'd collectively "yell" at him. There's no reason to follow him around and yell at his comments. Do you care to address any of the rest of my comment? SRS encouraged and celebrated a guy committing suicide. Are any of them banned? Do they get harassed when they comment? Edit: I don't have the power to ban the guy and I've already said I'm not going to do what you've recommende…
/r/MensRights06/04/12 05:54 PM
1

I don't see him or her celebrating the company of an actual rapist. The commenter seems to be replying to the content of the post as opposed to the poster himself. I don't think we make rapists feel welcome. I'm not going to yell at the guy every time he comments, but if he made a pro-rape comment then I would call him out if I saw it. I don't know where the guy posted that story, but it was already in the negative when the screenshot was taken. I imagine most of the responses to his comment wer…
/r/MensRights06/04/12 05:40 PM
0

As I said above, his previous actions don't negate the accuracy of his words today.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 03:42 PM
6

The point wavevector made in his comment here has validity regardless of his previous actions. The story you posted is pretty scary, and I would agree that it sounds like rape to me. But again, it doesn't change the validity of the words he's posting today.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 03:41 PM
6

Top comment pretty much nails it on the head. Plus this is pretty great: If the men's rights movement means that regardless of gender somebody shouldn't do assy things because they might get hurt? Sure, I can get behind that. Being equal means being equal, not just when it benefits us. Note: This is from a self-proclaimed female feminist who was quoted as an MRA male in the blog post.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 02:24 PM
5

I'm not sure how relevant this is to the situation, but there is a "defense of property" defense to assault that is similar to "self defense." A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime or in arresting offenders or suspects. This includes theft of property and I would consider a condom full of sperm to be my property. The notion that once it's thrown away it no longer belongs to me is also incorrect. This only applies if I take the garbage out. T…
/r/MensRights06/04/12 01:50 PM
1

I'm positive it is, I just don't understand the goal.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 06:08 PM
1

I wonder what point people like this are trying to prove.
/r/MensRights05/04/12 06:04 PM
3

It seems like that should be left to the upvote/downvote system to decide.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 09:29 PM
5

It reads like I'd expect an askreddit post would read. Most people just say they'd fuck the person. That seems to be the expected reply from both genders.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 09:10 PM
10

Small claims won't require an attorney, but typically has a minimum settlement amount. I'd go small claims every time if the amount worked out. He should still file charges in criminal court though.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 06:37 PM
3

I feel like this was a productive conversation. Thank you for engaging in a dialogue instead of just rambling.
/r/MensRights03/04/12 08:00 PM
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I totally agree with that whole statement and I don't think anyone is arguing that. They're just pointing out that there is a difference between false accusations from victims and police. The post implies that there were "false rape allegations" which would imply that so-called-victims lied about being raped, when in fact many of the examples were more about police misconduct or some other issue.
/r/MensRights03/04/12 07:27 PM
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To put it simply - false rape accusations here are typically false accusations from a victim not the police. The guys here are just arguing that this post incorrectly implies that rape victims falsely accused these men. Outside of that, the men were falsely accused and falsely convicted. I don't think anyone is arguing anything to the contrary. They're just trying to clarify who did the accusing. In most of the examples listed it was police, not rape victims.
/r/MensRights03/04/12 06:50 PM
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