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| 8 | Letting feminists dictate the conversation | Social Issues | Tilting_Gambit | /r/MensRights | 21/07/15 05:05 AM |
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| 9 | Woman perfectly describes why men should not get marriedAs the other guy said, eat a dick basically. You pick your partner, you don't pick your kids. If you and your partner aren't on the same page you will never be able to help your children in the long run. The primary focus of your relationship should be keeping up communication so that you're both pushing your kids in the same direction. You're a team, playing a game: guiding your kids into adult life correctly and safely in a manner that both adults agree with. That's the important part. Your pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/15 01:41 PM |
| 3 | If women "freeze up" in response to dangerous situations, it is unconscionable to allow them the freedom to go around unchaperonedOh wow! I didn't realise they were probably cucks! Good one buddy, you sure showed that hipster fgt! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 11:14 PM |
| 11 | If women "freeze up" in response to dangerous situations, it is unconscionable to allow them the freedom to go around unchaperonedWow you're really cool for assaulting somebody over your accent. A real hero of the South. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 10:33 PM |
| -1 | If rape culture was real ...I'm not saying it's logical... I'm saying she's a liar. It's fashionable to be a victim of something right now. If you're black, you're oppressed. If you're a woman, you're oppressed. If you're fat, you're oppressed. I have no idea what this girl is suffering from and I'm not going to make an armchair analysis of her (non)logic, but she probably jumped on the hype train. She lied about details in her story so her integrity is ruined. If you're asking why people lie for no reason then consider ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 06:16 AM |
| -1 | If rape culture was real ...it must follow that her story is untrue It's not true because she didn't only get a few nebulous facts about the guy wrong, she lied about everything regarding the event, including the amount if guys she claimed raped her, laying in glass, etc. She wasn't a bad victim, she was a bad liar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/15 06:08 AM |
| 0 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsAbsolutely not. This is your test, go do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/15 06:00 AM |
| 0 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsI'm not doing it because it's fucking stupid. If you want to see the results (you don't) then do it yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/15 05:26 AM |
| 0 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsSorry friend, you're actually brainwashed. I have no idea what kind of feminist media or propaganda you're consuming, but it's completely fucked up your world view. You're at the point where you're not even trying to see where MRAs are coming from. You're a zealot. You're not going to accept anything I say. You're not going to find any merit in anybody else's position. And if you can't understand that people have reasoned themselves into their opinions just the same way that you've reasoned your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/15 04:17 AM |
| 0 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsYeah, and all feminists think that men should be castrated. See how we can just pick the worst end of each spectrum and present it as evidence of stupidity? That's what you're doing and it's a logical fallacy: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/03/all-in-all-another-brick-in-the-motte/ If you think that non-feminists don't want women to be strong, then you're doing the equivalent of me saying that feminists want men to be considered rapists until proven otherwise. We can pick and choose comments … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/15 02:55 AM |
| 0 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsYou have been completely brainwashed. I'm not even giving them much credit to them, they hate feminism. But they don't hate women. They hate that feminism is attacking manhood and masculinity, not that feminism is helping women become stronger people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/15 01:31 AM |
| 1 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsNo. The manosphere would largely have zero problem with women and girls being encouraged to be confident. The pushback is not about teaching women confidence. It's about teaching women that men are largely rapists, that 1 in 5 or 1 in 3 women are rape victims, that women are being held back by some nebulous "patriarchy", or that men saying "hello" to pretty women are committing sexual harassment. Nobody wants to stop women becoming confident. They just want to stop being blamed for shit that has… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 10:23 PM |
| 2 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsIf you have a problem with drunk guys being dicks, then that's not a problem isolated on women. Entitled guys in social settings are dicks to other guys too. You're not going to solve that ever. So the only solution is to teach everybody how to handle drunk, entitled, dicks. In practice, teach them confidence. What's your solution if not encouraging girls to speak up and take ownership of their own lives? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 12:47 PM |
| 0 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsThe same thing, it's exactly the right thing to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 08:34 AM |
| 2 | According to feminist research standards 50+% of women are rapistsAs a guy, when a girl touches me in a bar there's so many ways for me to diffuse the situation. I'm an adult, I can say "Don't do that." and she gets the idea. Or I can make it a joke but also imply she shouldn't just be grabbing me, "Hands off please, I'm ticklish." I'm an adult, if I don't want her touching me, I can just take control of the situation and make it all clear. Despite it being unambiguous sexual assault I'm in no danger and I'm not completely mortified at the idea of being felt u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/15 02:02 AM |
| 1 | In a perfect world, would females be more promiscuous?I'm not a feminist. Did you not read the part where I added a /sarcasm? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/15 10:27 PM |
| 1 | In a perfect world, would females be more promiscuous?I initially rolled my eyes and said "Yes, men are out there killing women all the time."/s But fuck it, you're right. It's a legitimate concern. I think it's a factor combined with a dozen other things. On top of STD concerns, women have to think about maybe getting pregnant, being smaller and weaker than their partner, having to figure out if this idiot is going to cum in three seconds, and not actually being able to see his dick and see if it's going to work for you. Women tend to be much more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/15 10:44 AM |
| 11 | Western men are forgetting how much they suck, tooOP: Wah wah wah, everybody is mean. Men are man babies and girls are bitches. Wah wah wah. Complete shitpost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/15 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Disillusioned /r9k/ incel warns peers in northwest US not to go to class before opening fireShhh. Don't get into semantics. Drilling down on what I consider "valuable" when my point was obviously that intimacy is a well studied and vital part of development is boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/15 02:56 AM |
| 8 | Disillusioned /r9k/ incel warns peers in northwest US not to go to class before opening fireI legit have no idea what you're implying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/15 02:29 AM |
| 4 | Disillusioned /r9k/ incel warns peers in northwest US not to go to class before opening fireINCEL have a delusional stance What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/15 01:53 AM |
| 22 | Disillusioned /r9k/ incel warns peers in northwest US not to go to class before opening fireno one's value is based on sexual success Very few psychologists would agree. Intimacy is as crucial to human development and self-worth as nutrition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/15 01:18 AM |
| 0 | Does anyone here actually believe that the more sexual partners a woman has, the uglier her vagina looks?This is all that needs to be said. Aside from this being the worst thread I've ever read on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/15 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone here actually believe that the more sexual partners a woman has, the uglier her vagina looks?it's not based on anything remotely scientifically real Nobody is saying it is. Conversation over. We're done here. Close the thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/15 11:03 AM |
| 9 | women in denial, the bullshit of victimhoodWe're talking about a 16 year old guy who didn't know how to react either. The only way you're going to fix this problem isn't through making horny boys read her body language. It's through telling girls to take control and assert themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/15 07:04 AM |
| 8 | women in denial, the bullshit of victimhoodDo you not see how hard you're trying to avoid responsibility. You were laughing and gently pushing him? I can understand why he thought you were flirting. How about: "Not tonight. Maybe next time. " boom. Intentions are 100% clear. You're not fucking him but you're also not mad. He walks away with his feelings intact, since that's what you seem concerned about. Rather than growing up and saying "seriously. Not tonight. " You giggle and swat his hands away. Take responsibility for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/15 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Do you think TRPillers are unfairly judgemental of lifestyles that don't fit their narrative?single mothers are subhuman scum I don't think any reasonable person is saying that. Having a child is a massive investment of time, effort and mental energy. It's not only the biggest choice many couples make in their life, it's a choice that involves something that requires complete selflessness. It's not like buying a house- you can just sell that. If a woman has made a shitty choice about having a baby with a guy she obviously now finds unsuitable, what other bad decisions has she/will she m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/15 12:44 AM |
| 8 | women in denial, the bullshit of victimhoodI said no, but it wasn't the kind of no he could understand. This is exactly what the OP is saying. If you honestly don't believe you made it clear, why didn't you? It seems like the weird reddit feminist crew want men to not only read a woman's mind, but they also want women to hold onto sex like it's a valuable commodity. Feminists used to want girls to go out and get laid, have fun and not think of their virginity as some precious jewel. Why did that change? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/15 10:06 PM |
| 1 | RP: If a woman says she thinks muscles are gross and only likes scrawny nerds, what do you think of her?Funny, cause my boyfriend is skinny fat and I happily sleep with him any time of the month. Come on. Could you represent what I said in a worse way? Clearly relationships last more than a month. Clearly women don't just stop loving a man while they're on their period and start chasing others. But yeah, go ahead and pretend I said something I didn't. But fuck science, you like your BF all through the month: https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201010/the-double-life-women http://www.livescien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 02:29 AM |
| 0 | RP: If a woman says she thinks muscles are gross and only likes scrawny nerds, what do you think of her?skinny fat nerd types If your definition for a "scrawny nerd" or "skinny-fat" is that guy in the photo, I think we're all done here. That's a normal fucking guy. Also, it's been researched that women alternate between wanting more muscular guys when they're going through their most fertile period of the month and softer or more feminine features the rest of the time. Which implies that they want to have sex with the muscular guys and hang out with the others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 01:51 AM |
| 4 | RP: If a woman says she thinks muscles are gross and only likes scrawny nerds, what do you think of her?"Big muscles are kinda gross, I think scrawny nerds are way better!". Have you ever heard anybody say that? Ever? Clearly being scrawny is an unattractive quality. Sure it can be offset by a great personality, wealth or other factors, but all things being equal she'd go for the more muscular guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/15 12:43 AM |
| 2 | If being a ''strong independent woman'' is so empowering. why are so many women unhappy?If women constantly sought out the disadvantages of a free and open life as well as the advantages, there wouldn't be an issue. Girls in college now get to go out all night and don't need to sign back in before 10.00pm. Great. 40 years ago when women were fighting for that right they were warned that "If you do this we can't keep you safe any more." They said: "Ok! We want the good with the bad!" Now women are forgetting that it's an exchange. They forget that they were originally fighting for t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/15 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Sexbots: Why Women Should Panic (by Milo Yiannopoulos)I know, which is why I said: "I think that women desire relationships more than men". | /r/MensRights | 17/09/15 02:34 AM |
| -6 | Sexbots: Why Women Should Panic (by Milo Yiannopoulos)He didn't take into account the fact that women will also be having sex with robots also, which I think is a massive factor in this whole idea. I think he's dead on that the sexual market place competition for women will cease to exist. Why would a guy ever buy a girl a drink in a bar if he's got his custom made, blemish free, DD cup, sex robot waiting for him at home? Men will not compete with other men as hard as they do now for women, which means women will cease to have the advantage of sele… | /r/MensRights | 17/09/15 01:32 AM |
| 103 | Feminists already trying to ban sex robots as "demeaning to women", to control male sexuality.It's why women slut shame and cock-block. They like to keep the value of sex high so that men pour more resources/effort/time into pursuing it. If women ever just allow their sexual inhibitions to disappear then men are no longer the pursuers in relationships and women don't get to select their partners with the same frequency. Women don't know they don't want other girls to put out, but they benefit greatly when the value of sex is high. Exactly the same with hypothetical sex AIs. If men are ge… | /r/MensRights | 15/09/15 05:37 AM |
| 1 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?If you can imagine why a cute 6/10 redhead and a cute 9/10 redhead would describe very different people, you accept that the number is a useful tool. If you can't then this discussion is over. All you've said is "it's dumb" and pretended you don't get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/15 04:48 AM |
| 1 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?Ok you're not reading anything I'm writing. What you said is as ambiguous as saying they're 7/10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/15 04:11 AM |
| 1 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?I still think it's stupid. What do you do when you describe an attractive person you just saw to your friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/15 03:31 AM |
| 1 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?Also you didn't specify online or not in your first message. I said: "If you tell somebody on the internet "She was a 10" you have no idea what they're talking about." grown adults talk in "code" Dunno what you mean. It's just a way of describing a girl you just saw. I don't think the /10 rating system can be classified as code. I'm not offended. When somebody says: "So, you're telling me you little twerps spend so much time on your little hate site you're all best friends" they sound incredibly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/15 03:21 AM |
| 1 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?So, you're telling me you little twerps spend so much time on your little hate site you're all best friends? No, I actually said the complete opposite. I dunno if you read what I wrote. I said that the rating system doesn't work online. It does work when you know the guy who's giving you the rating though. Or are you saying you actually talk like that in real life? What are you offended by exactly? That I tell my friends in a bar "Wow that girl was a 10" or that we talk about girls in general? E… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/15 01:35 AM |
| 3 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?It becomes more obvious in your group of friends who know your type. If you tell somebody on the internet "She was a 10" you have no idea what they're talking about. You say that to your best friend and they know tonnes about her: She's cute as opposed to hot, redhead or blonde, shorter than 5'8... shit like that. It takes a 5 minute conversation and replaces it with a single number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 10:11 AM |
| 2 | If you saw this thread except with the genders flipped, would you call this misogynistic?Saying "She's tall, slim and a redhead... you know, probably about an 8" is enhanced a lot when you mix in the number. Saying "She's tall, slim and a redhead... you know, probably a 5?" gives you a completely different visual. They ask why she's a five and you can say "Kinda gangly" and they have a pretty good idea of the girl. If you say "I dunno... her face is kinda mousey" gives you another descriptor. I've heard people say the rating system doesn't work before. I agree, but it does add value… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/15 10:09 AM |
| 2 | Female victim-blamingDidn't you say something about hanging bitch face? Doesn't seem approachable. But I agree obviously there are a multitude of factors. But if women were more successful with men in your general "pick up" spots like bars in sweatpants, they'd be wearing sweatpants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Female victim-blamingMen will always approach women In sweatpants you'd get approached far less than in a better outfit. That's all I was saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 12:30 PM |
| 5 | Female victim-blamingcompete with their peers I mentioned that: is because women who displayed these things were more successful than women who didn't. Edit: Unless you're talking about in-group signalling, which I didn't mention but I'm aware of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/15 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers: how would you react to an ugly woman "gaming you"?It happened to Hugh Jackman, it can happen to anybody. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 11:40 PM |
| 2 | About the female obsession with chadsActually laughed out loud. This is so perfect it's gotta be a Poe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 11:37 PM |
| 1 | About the female obsession with chadsMost girls are like this. The OP literally said girls are lining up for these guys. Which means "most" girls can't be like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/15 11:36 PM |
| 1 | NSW Police Appeal For Witnesses After Man Asks Girl For Directions, LeavesYes. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/15 05:33 PM |
| 2 | NSW Police Appeal For Witnesses After Man Asks Girl For Directions, Leaves480 days How's that super efficient economy going? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/15 05:31 PM |
| 0 | Should we stop the usage of "twerp," "bloop," and related phrases?And I believe that many people who hate men drift towards TBP, to the point of pathological hate I said that people who hate men drift towards TBP, not that TBP has theories on anything. TBP is reactionary. But you said: You can mutually despise women there and feel superior That's not what TRP is about. And if you're now trying to tell me that TRP collectively hates women; meanwhile TBP does not have a population of people who hate men, then we've got nothing to talk about. You've got your blin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/15 10:52 AM |
| 0 | Should we stop the usage of "twerp," "bloop," and related phrases?I do actually believe that a large number of people within trp despise women And I believe that many people who hate men drift towards TBP, to the point of pathological hate. It's not a part of being in TRP though, so you completely misrepresented the sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/15 10:22 AM |
| -1 | Should we stop the usage of "twerp," "bloop," and related phrases?You can mutually despise women there and feel superior TIL that some people come to a debate sub and so obviously misrepresent the opposing view that they may as well not bother coming. I know you don't really believe that TRP despises women, so why would you write that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/15 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Two men pay the registration fee and show up to an event meant for women in IT and are told to leave because the function "was only open to women". Men use 1959 California Anti-Discrimination Law to file suit against the organization.No way. These guys are literally professional victims. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/15 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Two men pay the registration fee and show up to an event meant for women in IT and are told to leave because the function "was only open to women". Men use 1959 California Anti-Discrimination Law to file suit against the organization.Obviously it's not the same. If they're in it for the profit and not the message then they are dicks. Don't think that just because they're giving feminists the finger they're automatically good dudes. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/15 12:51 PM |
| 2 | Two men pay the registration fee and show up to an event meant for women in IT and are told to leave because the function "was only open to women". Men use 1959 California Anti-Discrimination Law to file suit against the organization.No. Because you can do the right thing for the wrong reasons. And these guys allegedly go around looking for people to sue. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/15 11:59 AM |
| 2 | Two men pay the registration fee and show up to an event meant for women in IT and are told to leave because the function "was only open to women". Men use 1959 California Anti-Discrimination Law to file suit against the organization.If they give that money to a charity I couldn't agree more. If they go buy new cars then I stand by my scumbag comment. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/15 07:48 AM |
| 6 | If sex is a mutual act, how can women be "used for sex"?When the women gives you Sex in the hope of getting your commitment Scenario a) Miss Hopeful goes home with Mr Swaggercock and has sex with him in the hope that later he calls her back and she can continue to date him. Mr Swaggercock never calls her; she's been used for sex. This is your logic. Now let's do the other side: Scenario b) Mr Swaggercock buys Miss Hopeful drinks all night in the hope that later on she comes home with him and they have sex. Miss Hopeful loses interest and doesn't have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/15 05:29 AM |
| 29 | Two men pay the registration fee and show up to an event meant for women in IT and are told to leave because the function "was only open to women". Men use 1959 California Anti-Discrimination Law to file suit against the organization.No doubt the guys are scumbags if they try to pull these stunts often. But when she says the guys were turned away because she had a bad feeling about them, it's just straight up discrimination. If I said something similar about a pair of women trying to join a male only conference, after they had paid, clearly I'd be discriminating. I don't agree with lazy lawsuits that make a big deal over nothing; when we can all just be adults and figure out a solution that doesn't involve millions of dollar… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/15 04:39 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Is Gender a Social ConstructIs Gender a Social Construct I never understand why it's scary for feminists to describe men and women as different. It doesn't mean that men and women shouldn't be treated the same in the workplace or home. If you agree that there are physical differences between men and women, like women able to give birth and men being physically stronger, then you agree there are differences between men and women, right? In order to be a good mother 50,000 years ago you needed different skills than it took t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 07:38 AM |
| 6 | Ladies: How do you justify the expectation that men are to pay for dates?Asking someone on a date and not offering to pay is rude No it isn't. You're asking them to come to a place with you, not making them. The reason men traditionally pay for women is because men traditionally worked and had money, women didn't. Now that that isn't reality the social pressure should be completely alleviated. As should the pressure of men asking women out. But women like it, feminists don't see it as an issue and men have to do it to stay competitive in a sexual marketplace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/15 03:16 AM |
| 4 | Why Educated Women Face Harder Time Finding Dates: Numbers Game Based on College Matriculation RatesImplying people who don't go to college are all against education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 06:19 PM |
| 8 | Why Educated Women Face Harder Time Finding Dates: Numbers Game Based on College Matriculation RatesReread what he said. Because it doesn't imply that at all. If she likes wearing high heels, she adds 3 inches to the minimum height she prefers in a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/15 06:18 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Feminism in Westernized Countries these days is about benefiting solely women in any arenas, by reframing "equality"Why? There are female only scholarships. Just ban those and get male only scholarships going until it evens out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/15 12:59 PM |
| 1 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.People just aren't attracted to dirty whores. It's innate When you hear a bush rustle in the middle of the night, it's useful to be scared. You turn towards it, stop and stare at it. Or maybe run away. It's because it serves a purpose. There might be something in there. It's not useful to just ignore it. These feelings and emotions develop over time because they're useful. There isn't any "Just because." Nothing is "innate" without a reason. Your perception lacks any depth whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 04:32 AM |
| 1 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.I'm glad you just pulled all this rationalization out of your ass. First time I've ever seen an explanation countered by "There isn't an explanation." Everything you feel is a product of evolution. In the biological sense and the evolution of society. Good traits in society are handed down just like allels. If you're saying that men were the leaders and decided that women can't be sluts, then you're not looking back far enough. There's a reason many animal pairs bond for life, going back before … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/15 03:02 AM |
| 1 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.Admission? I'm from TRP. Obviously I think it works. I think most BPers think it works too, they just don't think it's healthy to pursue it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 06:21 PM |
| 1 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.I don't know how you're defining exploitative here. Women enjoy sex, correct? So it's basically a competition to be chosen by a woman to have sex with them. Everybody are winners unless you're assigning some special value to a woman's sexuality, which is a completely archaic concept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 05:57 PM |
| 3 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.And I'm out. Treating adults like kids who can't think for themselves is beyond me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:50 PM |
| 3 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.You make it seem like a woman willingly having sex is being exploited somehow. It's a very regressive attitude to think of a woman's sexuality as something to protect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 04:22 PM |
| 2 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.Our answers and arguments are drifting apart. Like most of TRP you're arguing from a "this is how it is" perspective and I'm moving into "this is how it should be" area. To reiterate I'm a firm believer that TRP works. All the reasons I gave for not wanting to date a slutty girl at equally applicable to a slutty man. I don't think it's gender specific and women should be considering those factors too. The only difference is the historical baggage that women carry. The stats are self selecting. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 01:51 PM |
| 1 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.I have argued on here in the past that men slut shame for the reasons I gave and women shame to keep the value of sex high. Agreed with everything you said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 01:10 PM |
| 2 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.I feel like you're missing the most important part of my argument here. Society evolves based on what works. Enforcing a no slut policy was clearly necessary for society to function previously. But now because it doesn't serve its purpose it'll be shed. Skip 100 years into the future and it would be totally different. We're in the hang over period. The reason I know this is because guys who are emotional about their "no slut" policy can't give any grounded reason beyond "I just don't like it". Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 12:50 PM |
| 4 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.Would you date her? Absolutely not. I imagine the kind of girl who's slept with 50 men and know that it's not compatible with my way of life at all. But... if we remove slut shaming... the major repercussion is still there, except women will be less aware that they've removed various men from their potential future partner pool. No. The repercussion was related to child birth. It's no longer there. There's not only contraception, but also DNA testing to determine whether a woman is faithful to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 11:53 AM |
| 2 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.What is magical is staying the fuck out of someones sex life. Obviously that's impossible. If you met a guy who'd slept with 100 women, you'd probably find it very hard to relate to him. For a guy like that, sex is part of what defines him as a person. Whenever he went out on the weekend before he met you, all he was doing was trying to get laid. That's probably going to make it really hard for you and him to get along. He just has different values to you. You might not care that he's had lots o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 10:09 AM |
| 4 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.This whole thread is you setting up your own joke. That's okay, most of ppd is that way. But at least have your answers prepared. Your comments on why slutty girls are undesirable are terrible. You need to understand that TRP is based on shaky social science at best. Asserting bad analogies and false equivalence as factual makes us all look bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 08:05 AM |
| 4 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.I've literally never seen it happen. To be totally fair, there's a lot of SRS types who call TRPers virgin neckbeards, followed by disgust that TRPers shame women's sexuality. I've seen it a lot, but maybe just because I look for it. Dread game is damaging. Manipulation is damaging. If you are equating that to having a "strong leader in a man," I guess we just don't agree on what 'damaging' is. Look the OP is an asshole, nobody is doubting that. But there's a massive imbalance in your view here.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 07:10 AM |
| 10 | I have a bunch of questions for BPers. Please answer honestly.If you buy a car, do you just not check its mileage? If a bank is considering giving out a loan, do they not check credit ratings? If an employer wants to hire someone, do they not do a background check? Mate I'm not TBP but you fucked this argument up so hard. It's such a false equivalence. The only way to go worse is to make a lock and key analogy. The reason slut shaming exists is because it's a historical requirement for men to know their wives are going to be faithful. Ingraining women with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/15 06:52 AM |
| 0 | Feminist lives as a Man for 18 months to try to prove "Male Privilege". Learns Women are more Privileged than Men.You don't see a relationship there? Later buddy. Closing this thread and never thinking about you again. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/15 10:40 AM |
| 0 | Feminist lives as a Man for 18 months to try to prove "Male Privilege". Learns Women are more Privileged than Men.LOL K. Sounds like you're the expert. You're completely wrong about gender roles changing post industrial revolution though. The main component to gender roles has been that women get pregnant. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/15 10:06 AM |
| -1 | Sexism, Double Standards, and Misogyny (x-post r/relationships). Are women misogynists?Yeah I absolutely do. I agreed with your post. But the formatting of it was crazy. I remember there was some great feminist who I'll paraphrase: Don't protect women! Women of my generation remember what that was like. At college guys could be out all night, but women had to be back home by 10. We fought it! We wanted to be out all night too! And the faculty said "We won't be able to protect you if you do that." And we said "We don't care! We want the chance to go and make mistakes. We want the r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 03:18 AM |
| -2 | Sexism, Double Standards, and Misogyny (x-post r/relationships). Are women misogynists?This posts formatting is a shit fight. But if you're saying feminists would tend to be outraged at a friendzoned woman and call it abusive, I'd tend to agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/15 02:55 AM |
| 0 | Feminist lives as a Man for 18 months to try to prove "Male Privilege". Learns Women are more Privileged than Men.Do you hold any gender opinions whatsoever that are actually evolving, multitudinous and complex -- you know, like actual human beings? Yes. It doesn't change the fact that a relationship tends to head towards marriage and a baby. Which is a huge investment for a woman. And she'd rather build her life with a partner who's competent at life. You know, because that makes sense. This is the same narrative that extreme feminists try to dictate. "Men get this, so we want it too." You're pushing "Wome… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/15 12:37 AM |
| 0 | I'm a true feministGreat name. But I don't agree that women were ever behind men. I don't know why that narrative is so wide spread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 09:09 AM |
| 1 | Survey: Why do you think so many women feel like they never get hit on/don't get enough male attention?That's not what he said. He said most women would be 6-7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 08:26 AM |
| 2 | Survey: Why do you think so many women feel like they never get hit on/don't get enough male attention?Then so can every woman, and a 5 becomes a 5 again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 07:54 AM |
| 3 | Survey: Why do you think so many women feel like they never get hit on/don't get enough male attention?What kind of ranking system are you using if the bell curves out at 6.5? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/15 04:14 AM |
| 0 | Feminist lives as a Man for 18 months to try to prove "Male Privilege". Learns Women are more Privileged than Men.Women want a guy who knows what to do. Expressing vulnerability with emotion is not attractive. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/15 01:52 PM |
| 0 | Feminist lives as a Man for 18 months to try to prove "Male Privilege". Learns Women are more Privileged than Men.My GF posts a "Just Girly Things" image saying "Holding him in your arms" and gets 50 likes and 100 comments of "Aww, how cute!". I post the same image and I'm labeled a pussy. Something that's wrong with MRA in general is that we're falling for exactly what the feminists have dictated. A man or woman doing the same action does not have to be viewed in the same way. It infuriates me when MRA guys make that false equivalence. "If she gets to do that, why can't we?" It's a bad attitude. Men and wo… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/15 07:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableAimed at everybody who thinks having "losers" on there is a bad thing. I unsubbed because I picked up the general vibe and attitude, adjusted my life somewhat and don't feel very interested in the concepts anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 09:54 AM |
| 18 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortable"Men like hot women." Is the equivalent of TRP, not some weird gay analogy. And it causes zero outrage because everybody knows what men want. The reason TRP exists is because what women want is much, much more complex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableIn broad terms, without hyperbole, what is it that's harmful about TRP? I'm not subbed to it anymore but I can pick a few topics that you'd likely say: General negative attitude to women AWALT- that women will break up with men for a "better" man Encouraging guys to change their overall "normal" or generally positive idea of women and totally rethink why their ex/gf/wife acts the way they do If I'm along the right lines here I just don't get it. There is nowhere on the internet which demands tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:37 AM |
| 4 | CMV: the fact that TheRedPill is right is what makes people so uncomfortableYou're right that post-WWI Europe could have de-escalated the German's position, but the reason Germany was a predominately warlike state was because of the post Holy Roman Empire geopolitics. Prussia was built upon the backs of soldiers who fought bigger powers, successfully. The whole unification of Germany was one big red flag to the rest of Europe who interpreted everything the German's did as aggressive. And what looks like aggressive expansionism was actually a string of land grabs to move… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/15 01:17 AM |
| 7 | Both Pills when do you think TRP is gonna be banned.Exactly what I was going to say. It's the ultimate test and you either shut down and leave or tell her it's time for her to go. There is nothing I'd rather avoid more than a girl who's led me on all night. Inb4 "Just because a girl comes back to your place on a Friday night doesn't mean she wants sex." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 09:20 AM |
| 2 | It's Not Misogyny or Smelly, Disheveled Male Nerds Keeping Women Out of STEM [The Register]Do you even know what the MRAs are fighting for ? Did you even read what I wrote? If they're fighting for the wrong thing then why should anybody support them? I am an MRA and often disagree with a lot of others. And that is a reason to not support the MRAs ? A logical fallacy is a reason to not support somebody. If a guy is telling me he's a MRA and he's got bad reasons for it, why would I automatically support him? You can be right for the wrong reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 07:25 AM |
| 2 | It's Not Misogyny or Smelly, Disheveled Male Nerds Keeping Women Out of STEM [The Register]It seems like the different groups of the manosphere just can't get along. That's a good thing. Groupthink is horrible. There's a lot of feminists who defend deplorable acts by feminism just because they were done by feminists. If you're saying the manosphere should just push a "us vs them" attitude you're braindead. If they really care about politics why don't they support the MRAs instead of constantly shaming them? Because a lot of MRA's make a lot of false equivalences. Like "You're not allo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/15 04:58 AM |
| 7 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm just saying I haven't seen it in action. Yeah but this is like a guy saying he's never seen a girl treated differently for being a girl. We know that it happens and people who say it doesn't are getting into "my team vs your team" territory. I've personally seen it and it's led to people being forced to treat that girl differently because they were told they were picking on her. My workplace environment was very different though, with a strict hierarchy so it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 07:46 AM |
| 9 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?I'm not following. So both men and women rated men who were indifferent to gender as more sexist than men who were more deferential to women? Am I wrong there or what? I'm on my phone and can't read the study. Is it possible that some of what gets called "women have it better"/"feminists taking over" is actually equal treatment and men aren't used to that? Yeah I think this is key. Men aren't used to seeing women with authoritative attitudes or in positions of authority . Men will see a strong w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 07:10 AM |
| 93 | Ronda Rousey shuts down interviewer about the gender pay gapTrying to bait Ronda into an inequality discussion. Ronda just sees herself as a person, not a woman. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/15 05:06 AM |
| 4 | Hot Teacher Recorded on Video ‘Sexually Assaulting’ Student in Class, Had Sex With SIX TeensAgreed. To me, it's ambiguous if she's having sex with a student and he's a consenting party. The age factor isn't a big issue, personally. But when she's exchanging grades for sex, it shows it's not mutual. When she's doing it with multiple students, it shows me it's not romantic or healthy. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/15 05:11 AM |
| 0 | What is a Nice Girl? Is there a difference between nice girls and other girls? Is there such a thing as a "NiceGirl (TM)?You're nice to girls you want to have sex with and then you're upset if they're not sexually interested in you afterwards Are you fucking kidding? Of course I'm upset. Have you never had a crush before? It's heartbreaking when they don't like you back. Aren't you upset when it's not reciprocated. This has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with me liking her. Do you not think that I can be nice to a girl who I like to build up to asking her out, but also nice to a girl I'm not i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/15 03:10 AM |
| 0 | What is a Nice Girl? Is there a difference between nice girls and other girls? Is there such a thing as a "NiceGirl (TM)?Well I'm not. So you don't need to say that again, yeah? Here you go, in italics so you don't misinterpret again: I'm nice to girls who I want to have sex with. See how I'm not saying: I'm only nice to girls who I want to have sex with. See the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 05:15 PM |
| 5 | Letting feminists dictate the conversationWe're cool with two 16 year old's having sex. We actually insult communities that have abstinence only education. But put a 22 year old on one side and people lose their minds. It's cognitive dissonance. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/15 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Letting feminists dictate the conversationMan you totally missed the point. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/15 01:15 PM |
| 0 | What is a Nice Girl? Is there a difference between nice girls and other girls? Is there such a thing as a "NiceGirl (TM)?I don't know what you're talking about. I said that if I liked a girl, I'd treat her nicely and then ask her out. This opens me up to the complaint that I was "just nice to her for sex." It wasn't that at all. I was nice to her because I liked her and wanted to ask her out. Being nice is a way of building up to that. If I'm not interested in her sexually, then she's never going to complain that I'm "fake" nice then, is she? And no, if I don't have sex with a girl I'm not disappointed. Often I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 01:12 PM |
| -1 | Letting feminists dictate the conversationWhen I was 15 and 16 I was completely emotionally and psychologically unprepared to have sex I don't think it's a stretch to say that most boys are trying to have sex in their mid-late teens. | /r/MensRights | 21/07/15 05:52 AM |
| 1 | What is a Nice Girl? Is there a difference between nice girls and other girls? Is there such a thing as a "NiceGirl (TM)?If it's a platonic relationship then he hasn't tried to do anything "just for sex" then, has he? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/15 04:16 AM |
| -1 | CMV: If women generally get less physically attractive to men as they age, and understand that why that is, Red Pill ideas are worth considering.Women prefer other factors over age, as I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/15 11:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If women generally get less physically attractive to men as they age, and understand that why that is, Red Pill ideas are worth considering.... nothing. That's not the point. He's saying if one thing is true then so is the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/15 11:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If women generally get less physically attractive to men as they age, and understand that why that is, Red Pill ideas are worth considering.They don't find old guys attractive, nobody is saying that. They're saying women are attracted to things that older men generally have. i.e. status, money, power etc. If you're saying that rich, older guys don't tend to go out with young, hot women then I call bullshit. And nothing the OP said means this is true: unless we live in a society where old guys can force young women into marriage Why is that relevant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/15 11:31 AM |
| 2 | (TW: Rape) How often does rape occur?You're not a woman and you haven't experienced the same things I have , so you can't talk about me . From now on I'll be sure to call you out whenever you talk about a man then. You're a walking motte and bailey fallacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/15 05:43 PM |
| 3 | (TW: Rape) How often does rape occur?Honestly no If I believed the things you believe, I'd be a monster if I wasn't a militant feminist. But you're wrong about everything, so you're just a crazy, wrong, militant feminist for nothing. I hope you grow out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/15 05:38 PM |
| 3 | (TW: Rape) How often does rape occur?Every woman that uses public transport has been molested at least once. (at least that's what I get from my experiences and my conversations with friends and family). You're completely brainwashed, you know that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/15 05:30 PM |
| 4 | What is a Nice Girl? Is there a difference between nice girls and other girls? Is there such a thing as a "NiceGirl (TM)?This myth about men feeling like if they're nice they "deserve" sex is absolutely toxic. They're probably being nice to you because they like you and don't know how to show it in any other way. Let's say I meet one of these girls. I really like them and I hang out, treat her well, make her laugh and earn the "nice guy!" status. Later on I approach her because we get along so well and say "Hey, I was wondering if you wanted to go out with me?" And she's like "Oh, no thanks." I'm crushed, wonderin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/15 02:06 AM |
| 1 | NJ girl made $12,000 a month asking for abortion money. Fucked with 30 men per month without condom.Pretty lucrative if you ask me. | /r/MensRights | 17/07/15 02:09 PM |
| 1 | RPers are former "nice guys" trying to better themselves, but still haven't lost their "nice guy" logic about what women are/what women want.Yeah fair one. I'm not trying to take credit from Scott, his rebuttal was just designed to refute this exact fallacy. My comment is edited to reflect that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 05:26 AM |
| 2 | RPers are former "nice guys" trying to better themselves, but still haven't lost their "nice guy" logic about what women are/what women want.There are a lot of average looking nice guys that have no problem with women / sex because when they befriend someone they do it to meet people, not because they have some ulterior motive. "I don't like nice guys if they want sex." "If a nice guy wants sex, he's not a real nice guy." Let's say I met you and really liked you. I mean really liked you. I wanted to date you. But I've read your post here and know that you don't like guys to hang out with you if they want to have sex with you. Which m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 03:40 AM |
| 3 | RPers are former "nice guys" trying to better themselves, but still haven't lost their "nice guy" logic about what women are/what women want.I really doubt how many self-proclaimed "nice guys" ever really revered women. I think they just always saw women as this very separate, very different Other. Like the whole idea of not understanding women and what women want as if we're just one singular, puzzling entity. And I think they were always probably fearful and resentful towards as a group for that. You just criticised men for grouping women into one autonomous body after you yourself grouped men into one, autonomous, body. Define "Ni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 03:32 AM |
| 3 | RPers are former "nice guys" trying to better themselves, but still haven't lost their "nice guy" logic about what women are/what women want.Every time one somebody starts the "guys just blame women for everything" argument, I want to insta-close the tab. I'm going to speak for "nice guys" and "TRPers" and tell you exactly what they're saying so we're all on the same page from here on out: Women don't like "nice guys". Women like bad boys. This doesn't assign blame. This doesn't assert that women are right or wrong in what they like or dislike. This is just posting generalisations about what has been shown, through research and more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/15 03:20 AM |
| 2 | In a post feminist society, would women make up 50% of the prison population?Ah... testosterone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/15 06:11 PM |
| 5 | In a post feminist society, would women make up 50% of the prison population?What the fuck is happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/15 06:10 PM |
| 7 | In a post feminist society, would women make up 50% of the prison population?As soon as she dismissed the relevance of testosterone the conversation was over. It's simultaneously the reason men are more likely to end up in prison and end up as your boss. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/15 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Do you believe that women have ruined society ?I was when they were good. But Gambit was my name in the army because I knew magic tricks and could play poker. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 07:52 PM |
| 7 | Do you believe that women have ruined society ?TRP doesn't believe women ruined society. TRP believes that women have used their own self interest to garner themselves more freedom, status and privilege than previous generations. Women tend to be against conservation because there's nothing positive for them to conserve, right? So they vote left. Women are more independent than ever. So they're more likely to leave loveless marriages, right? So there's more single mothers. Women aren't shunned for having sex and using birth control, right? S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/15 07:48 PM |
| 4 | Is the Feminists movement coming to an end?I'm all for the draft hitting women. But make the fitness requirements for combat troops non gender and age specific. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/15 03:27 PM |
| 8 | Is the Feminists movement coming to an end?I like how you're claiming random civil rights wins as feminist wins. Could it be that reddit hates crazy feminists? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/15 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.Actually that's exactly what it means. Agree to disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/15 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.I want his heart to be in the right place So no, there's no tangible difference. Apart from some nebulous concepts about feelings and self. In practice you wouldn't ever know that he wasn't like this with his family, or whatever. But you're saying it wouldn't be right for some reason that you can't really explain. If somebody pretends to love you, and you never have any reason to believe they're not really in love with you, you wouldn't know the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/15 01:03 AM |
| 5 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.Acting nice means you're dong nice things. I don't see a distinction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 02:31 PM |
| 9 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.I don't think somebody pretending to be something they usually aren't can be called "fake" in a derogatory way like that. You can fake positive traits because you think it will help your relationship, or because you want to be "nicer". If I had a bad break up and my ex made good points in my faults, it's natural to try to fill those gaps later. By pretending to be nicer I'm really just changing my image. That could stick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 01:26 PM |
| 9 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.If she never broke character no. I wouldn't mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 01:10 PM |
| 12 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.Yeah my point is that there's no difference between a guy pretending to be nice and a guy being nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 12:06 PM |
| 10 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.What's the difference between a person pretending he's nice and actually being nice? I mean in practice. Is there any tangible difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/15 08:37 AM |
| 2 | What does an "I just believe in equality," non-radical feminist actually believe in?I'm the opposite of a feminist, in the army, and I think the idea of outsourcing jobs that women can do is a terrible idea. Making sure they're trained to be in a war zone is good. Having women step in and do jobs like truck drivers and clerks frees up men to be in combat rules anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 12:56 PM |
| 12 | So do male feminists actually get much sex out of it?Wherever they fucking want. Just like everybody else. The fact that you expect a different answer shows me how out of touch you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 12:24 PM |
| 8 | So do male feminists actually get much sex out of it?Men who aren't feminists are the "get back to the kitchen mob". Laziest argument I've ever heard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 11:29 AM |
| 4 | So do male feminists actually get much sex out of it?Yeah. The question was about feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 11:02 AM |
| 4 | So do male feminists actually get much sex out of it?What the fuck are you taking about? Male supremacy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 10:27 AM |
| 6 | So do male feminists actually get much sex out of it?Yeah mate, obviously. He means do they get laid because of their feminism or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/15 09:14 AM |
| 13 | Feminism once again shown to be a hate movement: "Stephen Hawking is a mysogynist"‘It was,’ she writes, ‘the very lack of communication that was hardest to bear.’ She married a dying man, who is no doubt terrified of his impending doom. And she wants him to act the way she wants. This is his fault for not communicating. I bet he'd have some other thoughts on why it was hard to communicate. Maybe the onset of muscular paralysis? He insisted on ‘a facade of normality he ‘never’ talked about the illness Oh damn. If I'm a 24 year old who knows he's likely to be dead inside of two… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/15 03:06 AM |
| 6 | Feminism once again shown to be a hate movement: "Stephen Hawking is a mysogynist"I understand your point. Being exposed to shitty individuals isn't a good reason to hate the entire group. For me personally, I'm totally against racism. However, my experience in Afghanistan as a soldier makes me throw a lot of logic and reasoning out the window. I really don't like Afghani's. They regularly fucked us over. The civilians lied to us habitually and their soldiers weren't trustworthy. It's a cognitive connection making process. If a kid gets bitten by a dog, he's going to be wary … | /r/MensRights | 27/06/15 02:42 AM |
| 5 | Do you agree with this blue pillar?Just to offer some extra insight: men feel the exact same pressure to lie about partner counts, it's just inverted. If a guy had had too little sexual experience it can be a huge negative. I lied about my partner-count to the last girl I had sex with and will probably lie in the future, as I feel like 2 sexual partners for a 24 year old is too low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/15 01:50 AM |
| 4 | The moderation policy of this subreddit is of the devil.You know they used to say black people weren't humans right? They debated it, showed that brains from Africans were the same as white people's and that was the end of the debate. So that's your premise gone. You can debate hate speech. Also, nobody is saying women aren't people. The whole idea of TRP is to understand women's real intention better. As multiple people have already said, TRP is the idea that women aren't some kind of mythical entity with nebulous long and short term goals. They're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/15 10:18 PM |
| 7 | What an (actual) typical American girl facesMore men than women in most science classes and that does mean being excluded from male study groups, being constantly overridden in class, being constantly told you are just not as good. How is this an example of passive sexism and not just you being a weak little bitch? You had to put STEM in there because you know that the opposite of this effect is happening in colleges and universities, with most students being female. Pick any other course and everything you said is applicable to men, not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/15 11:49 PM |
| 4 | [General Question] Why is it on the surface, TRP seems very reasonable. Yet it's users tend to be hate-filled?I think that because TRP promotes the desire of men over women it seems like they hate women. But they don't. They want to have attractive women. Sexually, sure. But there's nothing wrong with that anymore than there's anything wrong with women wanting to have sex with hot guys. It's a seriously lazy argument to just call TRPers misogynistic. The whole sub exists because they want women. They don't hate them. They certainly don't promote violence, so I'm not even going to touch that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 11:14 AM |
| 4 | [General Question] Why is it on the surface, TRP seems very reasonable. Yet it's users tend to be hate-filled?What's your problem with it, specifically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 10:27 AM |
| 3 | [General Question] Why is it on the surface, TRP seems very reasonable. Yet it's users tend to be hate-filled?It's not that they think they're owed anything. It's that they need advice on how to pick up girls and there's nearly no resources out there that make sense. I'm not saying TRP is healthy or even effective. But when a guy is looking for the reason he's a virgin at 22 and finds TRP, it's going to resonate. This is the problem. You call them angry or frustrated teenagers and they agree. They probably are. So they're trying to do something about it. 90% of TRP is about confidence. Confidence in bod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 08:36 AM |
| 2 | TRP: Post a picture of your ideal female bodyWhy do you girls think that talking about attractive women = talking about dicks? It's not the same. Tell us the kind of man you find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/15 02:47 AM |
| 2 | TRP: Post a picture of your ideal female bodyYeah you're right, that's trashy. I dunno why you assumed I wouldn't think so. It's gross. I don't do it. I wouldn't participate in a conversation or thread about it. That has nothing to do with what the other guy said. He said "You guys can talk about hot women, but you'd hate it if we talked about hot dicks." I was saying they're not comparable conversations. Talk about hot guys all you want, that's fine and no big deal. But yes. Talking about "hot dicks" would be gross. It's completely differ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/15 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Emma Sulkowicz reenacts "rape" as "performance art"Just the most popular brand. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/15 12:48 AM |
| -1 | Emma Sulkowicz reenacts "rape" as "performance art""don't have sex unless you're making a kid." It's a recent development that the Catholics allow for contraception. Which, by proxy, means that you can only have sex to procreate. | /r/MensRights | 07/06/15 12:36 PM |
| 6 | I was denied access to a bike shop becasue I was a male. Am I right to be offended?Send a French guy in to do the same experiment. Send a Mexican in. Send a kid in. Send an old man in. What's this experiment supposed to prove exactly? That we treat different people differently? | /r/MensRights | 29/05/15 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Equal pay? In Australia, there is pressure to allow companies to pay women MORE than men (in the exact same job) without facing discrimination lawsuits. The only grounds for getting paid more will be having a vagina!Automation is great for the economy, partly because it frees up human resources to go to jobs that haven't yet been automated which increases overall efficiency. You're right, one day machines might be running the show. But that's not how the economy works right now. Manpower is a huge factor in the economy. An economy with a population of 10,000 can't usually compete with an economy with a population of 10 million, all other factors being equal. This is because of something we call the producti… | /r/MensRights | 25/05/15 02:51 AM |
| 1 | Equal pay? In Australia, there is pressure to allow companies to pay women MORE than men (in the exact same job) without facing discrimination lawsuits. The only grounds for getting paid more will be having a vagina!Absolutely. I'm with you, which is why it's bullshit to say "men retire with more money! How terrible, we need to fix this!" No. You have to find out why it happens to figure out if it's good or bad. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/15 02:24 AM |
| 0 | Equal pay? In Australia, there is pressure to allow companies to pay women MORE than men (in the exact same job) without facing discrimination lawsuits. The only grounds for getting paid more will be having a vagina!Absolutely not. More efficient for a lot of industries, sure. But for the economy? Manpower is literally a variable in the measurement of the power of the economy. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/15 01:24 PM |
| 0 | Equal pay? In Australia, there is pressure to allow companies to pay women MORE than men (in the exact same job) without facing discrimination lawsuits. The only grounds for getting paid more will be having a vagina!Yeah yeah yeah, the world is fucked. Humans as a resource increase production and economic output though. Economically speaking, they ARE for everybody. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/15 12:34 PM |
| 0 | Equal pay? In Australia, there is pressure to allow companies to pay women MORE than men (in the exact same job) without facing discrimination lawsuits. The only grounds for getting paid more will be having a vagina!And I personally have no issue with that at all. We should be encouraging people having kids, because humans are a resource which drives economies as much as natural resources. We NEED people to have kids. And women are the ones who need to do it through no fault of their own. So if the benefit kicked in to help out mums who need to take time off work to sort out their kids and their homes and stuff, I'm all for it. But just creating a blanket which seems to literally consist of "Women have less… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/15 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Walk a Mile, Part IIWomen aren't held to the same standard as men in the Australian defence force, I can confirm that for you. There are some really fit chicks in the army. But you've got to understand that "fit for a girl" is really different than fit for a guy. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/15 05:31 AM |
| 1 | TRP's Anger is Directed Against a Chimerical WomanI don't know why the TRP guys let the OP bait them into an argument about the CC thing. OP turned the argument into this: If the CC doesn't exist, TRP is wrong. And like idiots, nobody argued that TRP is not based on the idea of the CC. It's based on the idea that men and women look for different things in a relationship/partner. This leads to things like men competing for and women selecting their partners. Whether the CC is real or not doesn't matter. What's real is that your average, everyday… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/15 02:43 AM |
| 2 | Does Rape/Consent Culture contribute to lack of male confidence AKA nice guys? TRP Vs. TBPRoom doesn't mean apartment. And no, I've never had a woman in my room and not wanted to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 09:56 PM |
| 1 | (Part of) why "The Red Pill" is so off-putting to non Red Pill peopleNo one needs some weird Internet philosophy to make that happen, I promise. What the actual fuck are you talking about. TRP teaches guys how to get laid. That's it. Stop calling it creepy and weird, these aren't comments on the actual process, these are just words that illustrate your reaction to it. It's not through being a glowering asshole. It's through being a person other people like. It's through being a valuable, relatively fulfilled, interesting, vital human. You could probably find near… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Does Rape/Consent Culture contribute to lack of male confidence AKA nice guys? TRP Vs. TBPThere's not many realistic cases I can imagine where a girl comes into your room and doesn't want to have sex in the situation I described. But if she second guesses it or says "Wait, I can't do this..." or shit like that, yeah definitely. Abort mission. Get her out of the bedroom so she doesn't feel the pressure and then decide what do do. I'd want to know what's going on and whether she's got issues or it's something I'm doing. Who knows, I've never been in that situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 09:48 PM |
| 2 | Does Rape/Consent Culture contribute to lack of male confidence AKA nice guys? TRP Vs. TBPI've said "Let's go to my room." "Let's go to my place to watch a movie." "Lay down." Lot's of shit which are euphemisms for sex, but not actually coming out and saying "Hey, tell me if it's alright to kiss you" and that kind of nonsense. At any stage she can say "I don't know..." "No... I don't wanna watch a movie." Or "I'm not really comfortable." And any of those are way easier for her to say on a first date than "Uh, yeah consent to me consists of..." I don't want to put unfair pressure on a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 09:05 PM |
| 3 | Does Rape/Consent Culture contribute to lack of male confidence AKA nice guys? TRP Vs. TBPTalking about rape is not honest conversation on a date. You see there's this whole part of language that isn't verbal. It existed tens of thousands of years before we developed language. Depending on where you sit on the interpersonal skills scale, I'd wager that the vast majority of people know where the boundaries lie just based on their partner's body language. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 08:57 PM |
| 7 | Does Rape/Consent Culture contribute to lack of male confidence AKA nice guys? TRP Vs. TBPWhich involves, as you said, making them comfortable. If she starts talking about what consent consists of she's now making me uncomfortable. And she'll be on her way home. Edit: Ooops, just went through your comment history. Get a new hobby, lady. You're boring and obsessed with paying out TRP. And reuse that GIF some more, it makes you seem so superior! Yayy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 02:50 PM |
| 7 | Does Rape/Consent Culture contribute to lack of male confidence AKA nice guys? TRP Vs. TBPDiscuss consent and boundaries Legit instant boner killer. That shit can come up a few months in. I don't care what you say, I'm a regular guy and the idea of talking to a new girl I'm dating about what "consent and boundaries" we agree on is not only a turn off, it's embarrassing and awkward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 02:01 PM |
| 8 | Why are some non-TRPers so anxious to let me know TRP/ers is the devil/worst-thing-ever/etc?This is basically my stance too. I think women are genuinely better communicators and listeners. Which is a completely socially acceptable comment. Then I say men make better leaders and I'm getting the "wow wow wow, don't go that far" shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 08:50 AM |
| 6 | (Part of) why "The Red Pill" is so off-putting to non Red Pill peopleIf people truly don't understand social interactions, The Red Pill is the opposite of where they should look. You've said this a couple of times, a few different ways. Further down you said: There are probably many resources for people to better understand social skills that aren't The Red Pill. I'd pick one of them. Where? I've made the point multiple times. There is no other resource for young guys who want to get better at dealing with women that women don't consider disgusting. From pick up … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 07:01 AM |
| 2 | How many of you actually fuck 4's-5's?I don't do this. I have a linear scale. If you're in the top 10% of the population you're a 9-10. If you're about normal you're 5. It's way more accurate this way, guys will argue about what constitutes a 8/10 until you ask if she's in the top 20% or not. | /r/seduction | 05/03/15 06:16 AM |
| 2 | The RedPill narrative is that women often sleep with guys out of their league, then settle down with a less attractive guy for marriage (beta), for those that disagree, what exactly do you disagree about?I don't know what's ground breaking about this. Tinder has shown us you look for different qualities in a person you fuck and a person you date. Both sexes do this. Both look for different qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/15 08:17 AM |
| 7 | Yesterday, my male feminist coworker basically told me that men need to settle for ugly chicks.You ever worked a job mate? You have to sit next to some guys that you usually wouldn't. And because we live in a society where people cooperate, you need to talk to them. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/02/15 12:59 AM |
| 3 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Best debate ever. Enjoy your echo chamber. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 01:53 AM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Oh you don't? There's three articles of ''you" (because apparently you speak for feminists) doing just that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 09:45 PM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015You should read something on English UK vs English US spelling before you come across as the exact idiot you just came across as. The main problem for you should be graduating high school, not social activism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 09:42 PM |
| 5 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Shit logic. Next time you write anything about a man just delete it, because "LOL how would you know? Are you trying to tell us you are in fact a man?" You don't need to be the president of the United States to criticise the president of the United States. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Female pedophile is the victim ...?I think so because sex isn't just about sex. There's a lot of living that a 16 year old has to do before their life experience is comparable to the 30 year old's. I'm generalising, obviously. You could certainly make a case for exceptions and abnormalities. In the end I think a judge could just figure it out. There's the case from some movie of the teacher sleeping with the student and later on they get married. In that case I think it's totally fine. Edit: My point was really just that comparin… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/15 12:08 AM |
| 24 | Female pedophile is the victim ...?Yes and no. If a 16 year old girl seduces a 30 year old guy I'd be siding with the judge on that one too. A 16 year old understand sex, though much less so than the 30 year old. But if he got a reduced sentence I'd be somewhat alright with it. If a 16 year old boy slept with a 30 year old woman, I'd equally be fine with her getting a reduced sentence, provided there was proof the kid was totally willing. If a man slept with an 8 year old girl? That's totally fucked. Totally. The other way around… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/15 10:53 AM |
| 32 | The correct way to break eye contact.You always do it sometimes? | /r/seduction | 16/02/15 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Replacing "men" with "Jews" in feminist Anita Sarkeesian's tweets is quite revealing...Are you seriously arguing to a men's rights advocate that sexual discrimination exists? It does. I never said it didn't. I have no idea what you're talking about. I said "No" in reply to you bringing up women in a discussion about men. Let me summarise your post: "Blah blah blah, women are discriminated against." I know. They are. Nobody is talking about that. At all. We're saying that Anita is being an illogical bitch and making the comment that if she said the same thing about Jews or blacks, … | /r/MensRights | 26/01/15 04:07 PM |
| 8 | Introducing /r/penispassdenied/. The same as this sub but gender reversed.Many men will openly acknowledge that having a high partner count is a turnoff, which is really shitty because sex is awesome and unless you're pro-abstinence yourself you can't even begin to expect to hold women to that standard. That's a penis pass. Many women openly acknowledge that having a short partner is a turnoff, which is really shitty because men can't change their height and unless you're a super short girl, you could be counting out many great potential partners. Men and women are al… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 26/01/15 06:44 AM |
| 2 | Replacing "men" with "Jews" in feminist Anita Sarkeesian's tweets is quite revealing...Because right now, on the real issue, women ARE discriminated against due to gender, they do NOT hold social or political power, and statistically are the minority in this issue. So were Jews. I see nothing in your post that can't be applied to the Jews in pre-war Germany. It's not being applied to pre-Nazi Germany though. If you look to the full context of that original tumblr post Yes it is. And even if it's not, I'm now applying it to pre-war Germany. Please don't weakman the argument any fur… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/15 06:17 AM |
| 4 | Replacing "men" with "Jews" in feminist Anita Sarkeesian's tweets is quite revealing...Friend, do you understand the political context of Jews in central Europe pre 1935? The reason the Nazi's specifically and Germans more generally hated them was because they held a disproportionate amount of power. The Nazi party was partly a response to this power spike within the Jewish community. Certainly their hatred of Jews was because of the power the Jews were perceived to hold; within and outside of Germany. The OP's link is EXACTLY the kind of thing that Hitler would have said during h… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/15 01:52 AM |
| 4 | A survey for sexually experienced women (with high partner counts)Yeah, because a topic involving beauty isn't going to be subjective? I personally have no interest in this survey whatsoever, but without going into a 20,000 word thesis on what "beauty" consists of, I'd say that the OP's scale is not that bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/15 08:14 AM |
| 14 | Good little boys, not hitting women.This is fucking disgusting. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/15 06:37 PM |
| 1 | If girls wear makeup only for themselves, why do girls typically put on makeup before they go out?Fashion has developed to attract opposite mates. This is why women wear high heels, figure hugging dresses, push up bras and makeup. Women only know that these things are fashionable and give no consideration as to why they're fashionable. This is why they get mad when you look at their boobs when they're wearing a push up bra and low cut top. They're so disconnected that they genuinely believe they're wearing that outfit for themselves. They don't realise that these things became fashionable be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 06:35 AM |
| 3 | What would you prefer to be true: TRP or TBP? What are the advantages of either worldview?Your idea of happy may not be compatible with theirs. If they're picking up women multiple times a week, it's unlikely they'd have trouble landing one for a few months for a relationship if they wanted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 06:22 AM |
| 0 | What would you prefer to be true: TRP or TBP? What are the advantages of either worldview?The question is pretty much incorrect. Both are true, no matter which perspective you agree with. TRP is sexual strategy. If people believe in it then it's true. The views on TRP are that women tend to enjoy the traits in certain types of men. TBP are the people who reject that notion. Or to go off the Matrix metaphor: both worlds exist, it's just a matter of which you want to experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/14 06:17 AM |
| 7 | How do you explain the existence of patriarchy if the sexes have equal natural willpower?Because women have babies and need to nurse them. Apply this to 10,000BC with a small tribe. No contraception exists and for the society to continue to thrive you need to be making lots of babies. It basically forces women to stay at home because they're in a regular cycle of birthing and nursing children. You know what that means? Men were forced to go out and hunt woolly mammoths. They had no choice in the matter any more than women had choice in staying home. If there was a tiger prowling tow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/14 12:02 AM |
| 3 | If withholding money is 'financial abuse', is withholding sex also a form of abuse?Sexual withholding is most often not intentional abuse, but financial witholding, by definition, is. I agree with your previous points, but this is where we differ. The OP is asking why the definition above is valid. Your definition is: "Financial withholding is abuse, sexual withholding may not be intentional so it's not abuse." To me, I don't think money and sex are equivalent, but going off your definition here I could very quickly get behind a reclassification. For example: This sucks, and I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/14 10:55 AM |
| 3 | Jk Rowling is mad that her female readers are tingly for Draco Malfoy.Applied to perfection in Europe. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/14 11:31 PM |
| 20 | Jk Rowling is mad that her female readers are tingly for Draco Malfoy.I'm guessing your second language is English, so I'll try to read into your post more than the bad grammar otherwise deserves. In european and all we ever did was go to other nations and take all their shit. Woe to the conquered, basically. You think Europeans were the first to march into other nations and take their resources? We have text from everywhere showing that every culture, ethnic and social group did this. From Greeks to Egyptians, Chinese, Mongols, Indians, etc. etc. Your point is th… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/14 08:04 AM |
| 10 | Another blow in the "war against women" - Prosecutors have dropped charges against two men accused of raping two women in a University of Kansas residence hall during homecoming weekendI think being competent at your chosen profession is more important than being some generic "handyman" stereotype. Knowing how to solve basic problems that come up is important. But I don't see Don Draper or Brad Pitt drywalling their basement. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/14 12:43 AM |
| 64 | Wrapping the pill in humor. Thanks, OnionFor those who are new or don't know, the general theory behind women wanting a large "friendzone" of males is that if they wind up in their 30s and realise they're not hot anymore, they'll always have that guy who's always "Been there for her" to fall back on. This has been Hollywood-ised into something romantic. Where the man has to go out and prove his love to a woman and after years of friendship and heartbreak and compassion, she finally recognises that he's "the one!" In reality she just co… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/12/14 05:50 AM |
| 42 | Feminists ignore 1400 little girls getting raped.The mathematics basically explain all of this. In order for SJWs to maintain or gain power, they need a solid base of support. The general gist of the dilemma is that conservatives don't want change, therefore push back against most minority groups. Immigrants and SJWs are included as minorities in this equation. For SJW types to get the support through numbers on their side, they need to make an unconscious alliance with other minorities. This is why we have SJWs criticising Christians, anti-ab… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/12/14 12:04 PM |
| 2 | Harvard Professor criticized for suggesting men more likely to be elite mathematicians, using the same exact argument behind the "men more likely to be idiots" article.Personally I have no issue with concepts like "Men are generally better at STEM subjects." Because I really do believe that women are better communicators and listeners. Which I think means they're better at writing and creativity subjects. I don't see what the issues is. The statistics are out there: Women choose alternate study and career paths than men. Just look at an engineering course. It's like 85% men. Look at the army. It's like 85% men. Either option is completely open to women. Yes, t… | /r/MensRights | 15/12/14 05:00 AM |
| 2 | females in the militaryYou might have missed the part where I explained that. The ADF theoretically allows women into the infantry. However has such strict standards (which motivated, big, infantry-type blokes can meet) that as far as I know, not a single woman has made it yet. We take our lead from everything the US does. We're trying to emulate the USMC with our last few big purchases. We want to be able to field a single USMC MEU. The US has seven. To say we're behind the US military in virtually every other aspect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/14 12:03 AM |
| 1 | "Trending" on Facebook. Study: Men are just more likely to be idiotsBullshit. All they proved was men take more risks than women. We've known this for a long time. It's because of something called testosterone. It makes us better leaders, fighters and workers. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/14 06:58 AM |
| 12 | females in the militaryI was army. Not American, but I think my experience is valid. Particularly since the Australian Defence Force is in my opinion, many years ahead of the US in terms of closing male/female boundaries. We had a period of time when a female officer cadet came out to the media and complained that she was sexually abused when she had consensual sex with a man in his room. The man had skype open and let his mates in the next room watch. She had no idea. This spurred mass inquiries into women in the ADF… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/14 06:22 AM |
| 7 | FDNY Must Relax Standards for Female FirefightersI was in the army and there are genuinely women who were fitter and more motivated than 90% of the guys they were working with. They could keep up and excel at PT and do their job better than their male counterparts. But they were passing the same tests. I have no idea why there would be a desire to drop physical standards to get more recruits into an organisation just because they're women. If you're telling me only .4% of females can pass the FDNY physical requirements, I'd probably call you a… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/12/14 08:18 AM |
| 0 | BP/RP: Do you think there could be a 'Blue pill' styled group with the efficacy of the red pill?Yeah that's what I meant. It's a satire sub, so you can't get points across and nobody is trying to make one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/14 04:04 PM |
| -1 | BP/RP: Do you think there could be a 'Blue pill' styled group with the efficacy of the red pill?They are both cesspits So much this. The difference is that TRP has a stance that they're pushing. TBP is completely reactionary and just make fun of TRP. I post 1000% more on TBP than TRP and the illogical stance of some of those guys... I don't know. TRP is bad, but at least there's a method. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/14 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Great post from /r/4chan about SJWsThe second case premise is wrong. We have governments to protect minorities regardless of what the general population believes is right. If your premise was true slavery would be acceptable. The first case is true. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/14 04:56 AM |
| 0 | I'm never going to break my misogynyI said that I didn't make a mistake with comparing "all women" to the ones "I'm bitter at." I said askmen would probably do the same thing that the girls in this thread did. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/12/14 03:41 PM |
| -1 | I'm never going to break my misogynyThe mistake that OP and /u/Tilting_Gambit are making is to conflate all women with the ones they are the most bitter at. The confusion isn't mine. These are extremely popular feminists that I linked to you. If not all women are like that then I don't understand how these articles are so well received. If I went into AskMen and said "Why are you guys such assholes? Why do you treat me like I'm a fool or just around for your sexual gratification", they have every right to be insulted and annoyed. … | /r/ExRedPill | 08/12/14 03:37 PM |
| 0 | I'm never going to break my misogynyI don't see anything particularly consequential about your example with your boyfriend. I'm not saying women have any more control or choice over their perceived sexual market value than men. But like you said, the stories the OP received didn't help. To me those posts sounded like the people replying just wanted to compare their own bad dating stories. And as I pointed out, telling a guy lacking self confidence around women about all women's problems (I surmised with "Pretty girls have it so ha… | /r/ExRedPill | 08/12/14 03:32 PM |
| 0 | GayLubeOil explains TRPI'm not really TRP in any useful sense. Just more anti-absolute statements. I argue against dickheads on TRP, argue against dickheads on TBP and argue against dickheads everywhere else. I don't read TRP literature or anything and had to google "Beta orbiters" if that gives you any idea of how little I know of the terminology. Edit: Not to say you're wrong, you might be right about TRP in general. But you could say the same thing about femanists probably too, for different reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 03:25 PM |
| 0 | GayLubeOil explains TRPIt depends on the debate. If I was arguing with a creationist I don't think there's anything beyond their argumentative method I could learn from. If it's with the person I was replying to? I went through her argument and tried to show her why she was wrong (i.e. origin matters) and meanwhile they wanted to get bogged down in a conversation I had no interest in (i.e. TRP hate women). Learning through argument is good. Assuming the other person wants to learn too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 02:32 PM |
| 14 | THE SEXODUSwell it's hard to take this article seriously when it attempts to blame literally every negative aspect of men's lives on feminism Now you know how men feel when everything bad about the planet, society and women's plights is blamed on men. Want sources? I dare you. The point is that one side isn't better than the other. MRA and feminism mirror each other in a lot of ways. You have people on both sides putting unfair blame on the other side and you have reasonable people just trying to get every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 02:24 PM |
| 1 | GayLubeOil explains TRPSomething like that, yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 02:19 PM |
| 1 | GayLubeOil explains TRPI need to ask you to clarify what you mean. I've read your comment four times and I have no idea what your intent is. Are you bringing up men who think "all women like jerks and assholes" and saying that they're the nice guys? Edit: I have no idea why your early 2000s comment is important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 12:29 PM |
| 1 | GayLubeOil explains TRPI am not a Red Piller, if that wasn't clear then let me make it obvious. Beta orbiters: If you're trying to subdivide nice guys into categories like "Really nice" or "A nice guy who is really a phony, he's just there pretending to be nice so that he can have sex with unsuspecting women" a legitimate argument, then let me retort. I quote: I’m pretty sure everyone knows at least one Nice Guy. You know, those guys who think women only want to date assholes and just want be friends with the nice guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 12:21 PM |
| 2 | GayLubeOil explains TRPYou could read this or just the rough summary here I'd usually summarise for you but I'm tied up and this is the best I can do. The TL;DR is: You have some unbeatable part of your argument that you begin with (motte), use it as a springboard for less safe, less solid and much less defensible further arguments (the bailey). So when somebody beats all those less defensible parts of your argument, you just go back to saying whatever you were saying with the "motte" argument and it seems like you've… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 11:26 AM |
| 0 | GayLubeOil explains TRPI was writing to a feminist. I wanted to give him/her an example they could relate to. It didn't even come close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 11:18 AM |
| 0 | GayLubeOil explains TRPHave a nice day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 08:39 AM |
| 2 | GayLubeOil explains TRPOh here we fucking go. A common argument tactic is the motte and bailey. Your point gets defeated to you retreat to a position that's really hard to argue against, not because it's right, but because it's hard to disprove by its nature. This is all fucking word play. I already showed you that TRP is a forum for sharing ideas, similar (but as I already granted, not the same) to feminism. We can fuck around all you want, but your fundamental idea that "You don't need to know where something came f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 08:21 AM |
| 4 | GayLubeOil explains TRPWhy would a guy pretend to be nice to get sex when it's empirically demonstrable that jerks and assholes get more sex? (Protip: They don't. You're making up a person that doesn't exist to make yourself feel better about shitting on nice guys). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 08:11 AM |
| 2 | GayLubeOil explains TRPYou're wrong: Movement: a group of people working together to advance their shared political, social, or artistic ideas. That's from the dictionary. You don't get to redefine words which have a clear and common usage. To be perfectly honest, it's not complex or important enough to warrant origin stories. It's how to get laid, with a healthy dose of woman-hating thrown in, and that's all. Don't be worried about showing bias or anything. Logic and argument have no place in a debate forum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 07:48 AM |
| 2 | GayLubeOil explains TRPLet me quote SSC for saying it better than I ever could have: It was wrong of me to say I hate poor minorities. I meant I hate Poor Minorities! Poor Minorities is a category I made up that includes only poor minorities who complain about poverty or racism. No, wait! I can be even more charitable! A poor minority is only a Poor Minority if their complaints about poverty and racism come from a sense of entitlement. Which I get to decide after listening to them for two seconds. And If they don’t re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 07:45 AM |
| 0 | GayLubeOil explains TRPAre you actually trying to portray TRP as analogous to feminism and the civil rights movement? I think there are many, many mirrors between TRP and feminism movements in their current wave. But no, I don't equate them. I equate TRP to any subset of feminism which encourages action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 07:27 AM |
| 3 | GayLubeOil explains TRPI've got a couple of observations about your post. Demand: I agree with all your points. Supply: Something you're missing in this section is that there's a feminist alternative. Find any thread about men asking for women's advice on dating, and usually this kind of response pops up. "Learn about women! Join clubs, interact, read feminist literature, take feminist courses!" So lets take their advice. Here's some great articles for entry level dissatisfied males to read on some feminist websites. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 05:23 AM |
| 0 | GayLubeOil explains TRPIt doesn't really make a difference why "TRP phenomenon" started This is the most intellectually lazy thing I've heard for a long time. Figure out why feminism exists and you begin to solve problems. Women are dissatisfied with not being able to vote, having less say in household matters, having little say in political matters, having less choice comparatively about how they live their life, etc. So now people who weren't feminists before can show up to the conversation and say "Hey, I get it. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 04:56 AM |
| 0 | Is society misleading men about what women want?Approximately only 20% of individuals make enough money nowadays to keep up with the average household. Which makes these men the most desirable men in the market. Hence the position as number one consideration. This blows other factors that the OP listed like physical traits way down the list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 04:48 AM |
| 1 | I'm never going to break my misogynyGood luck mate. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/12/14 03:58 AM |
| 2 | A question on bias.Contending my intent with that statement, or just pointing out that it makes me sound like a dick, whilst being true? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 03:18 AM |
| 3 | A question on bias.The thing to point out is that it's a completely indisputable reality that we are all racist. Countless experiments have been conducted and it's shown that we expect different things from different races. This rises above which race you are. Blacks, Mexicans, Asian and Caucasians are all racist. So let me ask the OP his own question: Does being white influence your decision on who to employ? If you answered anything but yes, you're wrong. A hypothetical you are hiring for a company, and the last… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/14 02:44 AM |
| 4 | That UVA rape story Rolling Stone magazine published that was too good to be true? Yeah, you guessed it.Don't really know why you'd come in with such a hostile attitude. If you've got a point to make then make it, don't rub salt into the wounds. Not everybody here hates women. Not everybody is afraid of women. If your point is that "40% of colleges haven't investigated rape" then you should have started there. Recognise first that it doesn't have anything to do with this particular false rape claim which was sensationalised prior to any kind of journalistic rigor. So on your statistic. It's more t… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/12/14 02:22 AM |
| -1 | I'm never going to break my misogynyDon't you DARE compare this to sexual abuse. It's a real philosophical problem when you're told what's ok and not ok to argue about. It's ok to criticise politicians! Wait, stop telling me that my religion issues. If you go to a philosophy conference you hear some apparently fucked up questions. As Sam Harris argued, "Why can't we eat babies?" to demonstrate why we need to argue over apparently strange and unethical issues to arrive at an understanding of what is ethical. I made the point about … | /r/ExRedPill | 06/12/14 01:31 AM |
| -4 | I'm never going to break my misogynyIt's another thing entirely to say "I don't believe that all women aren't total hypergamous bitches because I've seen the truth and can't convince myself otherwise so please teach me to live in your world of illusion and fantasy so I can believe the lies you believe and be happy." (Which is what OP's original message essentially says, if his atheism-religion analogy is to make sense. It's insulting and dismissive.) Let me try to flip your perspective then. A guy comes here and says that he's tri… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/12/14 06:07 PM |
| -2 | I'm never going to break my misogynyI wasn't clear enough. It's over, this OP has already experienced the worst. My last point in my first post was that he's been forced to believe in misogyny because of blogs and articles from feminists, and comments like yours and the other's have left him nowhere else to go. Consider the advice in this thread. I'd wager a lot of money that the vast majority of responses are coming from women. And they're not helpful. Most, comments with one exception don't offer any advice. They offer a woman's… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/12/14 05:36 PM |
| -3 | I'm never going to break my misogynyI replied to somebody further up. I suggest you read my reply, because it might change your perspective somewhat. I agree with you, he's wrong. Women don't just get handed life on a platter. Attractive men and attractive women develop similar benefits through life which serve them better than their peers. But the difference between you and him? You made the point yourself. try being more understanding and realizing that we are humans too. Most problems and struggles that guys have girls have too… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/12/14 05:06 PM |
| -11 | I'm never going to break my misogynyYou know what, I think women need to take a big old chunk of the responsibility on this one. Can I just say before I really get into this that before you start frantically clicking that down vote button you take a full read of my post and decide if it's unhelpful. This post is going to be unwelcome from pretty much anybody with any feminist leanings, which is why I think you'll find it interesting, even if you don't agree. Ok. Consider this comment that you opened with for the rest of my post. g… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/12/14 04:36 PM |
| 8 | What is your opinion on seeking revenge?It depends on the circumstances. I had a guy touch my GFs ass in a club a few months ago. I'm ex army, I lift, I'm a boxer and I was much bigger than the dude who touched her. I just grabbed her and told her that we're leaving. Getting violent over that shit is stupid and I don't feel the need to fight people anymore. Besides, the guy was drunk, he's not thinking straight, beating him up isn't going to teach him a lesson. We went to a different bar and continued the night as per usual. If I came… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/14 03:31 AM |
| 2 | The Slut/Stud double standard is absolutely justifiedGood follow up, nice read. I know it would have taken quite a while. I'm going to come out and say that we largely agree with each other. I'm not going to go through your post and nitpick, as I agree with your opening statements. 1) the evolutionary reasons for male and female sexuality being held different standards, and 2) the rationale behind maintaining that in modern society. Point one. I've basically been arguing that there's an evolutionary reason that men and women value sexual activity … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/14 03:21 PM |
| 1 | The Slut/Stud double standard is absolutely justifiedYes, but as humans what makes us different from animals is that we're increasingly able to overcome our evolutionary programming. If we're so driven by these strict natural laws of gender and procreation, why then do any 'high value' men settle down with just one woman? Why would any woman choose to have multiple sexual partners? You're answering your own question here. Women have collectively (over time) played a game of chicken with men. We've instituted a stable system, where women value a ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/14 03:19 AM |
| 1 | The Slut/Stud double standard is absolutely justifiedI guess my example didn't work for you. The better one would be: The male goes to school to become a doctor, struggles through the course and finishes with a B+ average. The woman goes to school to study communication and gets an A+ average. A woman who has a lot of sex isn't getting the same benefit from it that a man would. A man has a bio evolutionary incentive to have lots of sex with lots of women in order to spread his sperm. Women have developed to be far more selective in a mate. So havi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/14 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Racism/Xenophobia and TRP: RoK on how Finland is letting itself by overrun by brown peopleYeah, Sam Harris makes an argument about Islam being essentially toxic within a society. I think it had a lot of merit. Their prophet was a warrior King who wanted to spread Islam with the sword. Jesus was a hippie. Atheists don't like religious nutters. Between Christian Europe and atheist europe the Muslims really stand out alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/14 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Racism/Xenophobia and TRP: RoK on how Finland is letting itself by overrun by brown peopleI think culture can make a nation better or worse. The die hard workers in Japan with their disciplined work rationale made then a power house for many years. What we're really talking about us predominately middle easterners. Their collective development is pretty shit, sure. But it's not the major reason a country is fucked up or undeveloped. Take a Euopean, drop them in Siberia and they're likely to develop pretty similar customs and traditions to the current Siberians. Take a group of eskimo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/14 11:38 AM |
| 3 | Racism/Xenophobia and TRP: RoK on how Finland is letting itself by overrun by brown peopleNo, it is not. You don't need to like TRP, agree with many or any of its approaches, but what you're saying right here is bullshit. Straight up. HBD posits views on race and ethnicity which we know to be and can demonstrate to be wrong. It's filled with illogical bullshit. Its views regard race. TRP looks at gender. It's not the same. The difference between a black man and a white man? Absolutely minimal if raised in a vacuum. The difference between a man and a woman? Absolutely minimal, if rais… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/14 02:07 AM |
| 7 | Racism/Xenophobia and TRP: RoK on how Finland is letting itself by overrun by brown peopleIt's easy to be illogical about this stuff and just assume the other guy is a right wing, racist nutjob. For some reason we're at a stage in our society where bringing up a legitimate question is illegitimately shot down. People get so fucking offended so easily, particularly if race, culture or gender comes up. Let's pretend we're at a philosophy conference. Somebody asks: "Do two different cultures, mixing in a vacuum cause instability? Is it a problem if they do?" My response to other philoso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 05:45 PM |
| 2 | The basic problem with "pop evolutionary psychology"You're making some really, really false assumptions. We can adapt our diet because our diet is something that exists in the environment. We can't change our flight of fight reflex because it's an internal, biologically developed survival system. We can't change that men are attracted to women who look like they're great at carrying, feeding and raising children (i.e. physical, visual traits). We can't change that women are attracted to the men who are most likely to stay around, protect and prov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 05:15 PM |
| 1 | The Slut/Stud double standard is absolutely justifiedWomen who sleep around outside of their marriage are probably just naturally unsatisfied with their husband/partners genes on an instinctive level. It's totally natural for a woman to find the best man she can at the time, marry him, have babies with him, only to find a new, hotter, smarter, stronger, richer man down the track. Women desire a level of security for themselves and their children on a really deep, biological-evolutionary level. Men meanwhile are more likely to have a one night stan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 04:59 PM |
| 3 | The Slut/Stud double standard is absolutely justifiedYour example was shit, but I think your point is right on, mostly. Students get grades, they don't just end up with letters on the end of their name. The OP would say that the guy who's good at exams and gets an A average is less worthy of praise than a guy who works his ass off and gets a B+ average. I think most of us would agree. We already know women can score an A average. Sex walks up to women and buys them drinks. If an average chick has sex with an 8/10 guy nobody gives a fuck. This is b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 04:43 PM |
| 4 | The Slut/Stud double standard is absolutely justifiedThe OP gave his example referencing men as much as women. Nothing about it was aimed directly at women, it was aimed at the hookup/dating scene. Nothing he said would be more or less relevant if a woman or man wrote this. If you think the opinion of a woman would be more valuable when discussing the dating scene, I would like to point out to everybody that it's bullshit. You're guilty of what you're (incorrectly) accusing him of. Basically, even if you read his post (doubtful) you did completely… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/14 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Guy's wife threatens to leave him. Guy uses threat of "mutually assured financial destruction" offers her 25% of assets and no child support or 50% of nothing. His wife sees it is lose/lose and backtracks. Gets huge downvotes and flames [-55]. "You are an abusive sociopathic manipulator" [+21]It is in the simple fact that SJW do gooders and feminist ideology has made marriage a good deal for women and a terrible deal for men. What are we talking? In the last 100ish years? The last 10,000? I think if we're going back more than 100 years then men have got just as much out of marriage as women. If we're talking the last 100, 50 or 30 years then I agree wholeheartedly. Marriage is a recent institution within the last 10,000 years that (along with a few other institutions that men created… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/11/14 03:13 AM |
| 5 | Never Take the CouchThere's the idea that most rich people get to where they are because they don't try to APPEAR to be rich, which is what you're saying. They drive a shit car and have a normal house, meanwhile they're sitting on 500k in stock and two investment properties. There's also the idea that if you appear to know what you're doing, everybody will assume you do. The guy you replied to is going for this. He wants to appear professional, give that vibe off and not come across as anything but a well put toget… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/11/14 07:55 AM |
| 0 | Guy's wife threatens to leave him. Guy uses threat of "mutually assured financial destruction" offers her 25% of assets and no child support or 50% of nothing. His wife sees it is lose/lose and backtracks. Gets huge downvotes and flames [-55]. "You are an abusive sociopathic manipulator" [+21]Yeah, they're great to have around the office. You can always tell the realistic, straight forward woman from the ones who still expect to be treated like they're a damsel in the Middle Ages. But the reality is that humans are a resource. Society requires women to have children, otherwise society disappears. It's a social, biological and intuitive necessity that women desire children. It's hardwired. The majority of women have to have children. So saying that "some" would like to have a job is f… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/11/14 01:39 PM |
| 29 | Guy's wife threatens to leave him. Guy uses threat of "mutually assured financial destruction" offers her 25% of assets and no child support or 50% of nothing. His wife sees it is lose/lose and backtracks. Gets huge downvotes and flames [-55]. "You are an abusive sociopathic manipulator" [+21]What security is she providing the man? A marriage has historically been an exchange. Let's look at why humans have paired in the past: For a woman, sex is a massive investment of energy because she may end up pregnant. This goes back to when we're living in caves. If she went around fucking heaps of guys, she'd end up with 20 kids and no possibility of providing for them. She doesn't have the time to go kill a stegosaurus and raise the kids. So instead, survival instincts kick in and she makes … | /r/TheRedPill | 13/11/14 07:22 AM |
| 1 | CNN attempts to drum up outrage about a university president who dares to tell female students the truth. That many rape claims are nothing more than morning after regret.I'm gonna do some analysis real quick. I think we can all agree that if more false claims were being punished, less false claims would be made. That's logical, right? The president in this clip could be referring to anything else. If he warns people that any cheating or collusion during exams would be taken seriously, nobody would have any issues. He's confronting a problem that exists in a manner that he's entitled to. The fact that it turns into a bashing session on CNN is only happening becau… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/11/14 03:38 AM |
| 5 | Hello, 15k subs. Your female moderator would like to touch base for a moment.Nice discussion. Glad you defended your statements with such intellectual rigor. Enjoy. | /r/PussyPass | 10/11/14 04:39 PM |
| 0 | Hello, 15k subs. Your female moderator would like to touch base for a moment.Why does this sub exist? What does it accomplish? You seriously don't see the irony? | /r/PussyPass | 10/11/14 04:16 PM |
| -1 | Hello, 15k subs. Your female moderator would like to touch base for a moment.She's perpetuating the problem she's condemning. | /r/PussyPass | 10/11/14 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Hello, 15k subs. Your female moderator would like to touch base for a moment.The irony is so fucking strong. Nobody cares that you're a girl. Shush. You're on the fucking pussy pass subreddit and you're pointing out your gender like it should be a factor in anything. | /r/PussyPass | 10/11/14 11:29 AM |
| 9 | Hello, 15k subs. Your female moderator would like to touch base for a moment.Yeah, gotta say I don't think I'm your target audience either. The fact that you're a woman shouldn't factor into your post, right? Considering you're all for: gender-blind humanists operating in a meritocracy If your post had merit you wouldn't have mentioned your gender. If you consider your gender important to your post, the quote I included above is void. The reason women aren't on the internet (as you said) is because everything that makes a woman special in real life isn't present on the i… | /r/PussyPass | 10/11/14 11:27 AM |
| 13 | Hard working woman needs money for Gas. Denied.I looked through your recent comment history and I get that you're probably a professional SJW. I get that I shouldn't engage you because you thrive off it. But fuck that. I wasn't going to say anything but then you threw that last part in there about gas. So excuse me for a second while I give my input. By your logic an aboriginal can break into my home and steal my shit. You just go "Lol you ancestors killed his ancestors." So the fuck what? You don't get to redefine what people can or can't d… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 17/10/14 02:50 AM |
| 4 | I flat out insulted a woman and nothing happened. Starting to learn to speak my mind.Once he's made the decision that she's being rude, he should have done exactly what he did. Personally it wouldn't have bothered me that much. If she was being like that all night I would have told her she had bad manners. Because she did. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/10/14 02:52 AM |
| 4 | Man saves a girl from a 5 vs 1 beatdown (Xpost from justiceporn)We need to know what it's all about. I couldn't see any translations in the video comments. For all we know they were apprehending a thief or something. But it's a good example of what a guy can do when he makes a decision. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 27/09/14 12:19 AM |
| 2 | The Hero this sub needs. Nothing like inciting a Fem Riot!Soooo.... did he have to kill a dozen women to get out of there or did they rip his arms off? | /r/PussyPassDenied | 23/09/14 11:36 PM |
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