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How is your personality? Would you consider yourself to be above average in terms of looks? I mean, something is off here if you are struggling that much. Are you willing to date 5-6s or are you just aiming for 8s and above?
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:37 PM
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Yeah I’ve noticed that women are the only ones than can have standards. It’s fine for them to ask for a guy that’s 6 foot tall, makes 6 figures and is in shape, charismatic and outgoing but if a guy states that he wants a woman that is feminine and has a decent body shape, he is condemned .. it’s really bizarre but when I was growing up,90% of women were in good/decent shape. It was rare for a girl to be fat but nowadays it’s almost the norm .. wtf
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:35 PM
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If you are smart, social and attractive 29 year old woman and can’t find a man that somewhat meets your standards- something is wrong! I get Covid has hampered things big time but are you sending out messages to guys first that you find attractive online? Are you just waiting for guys to approach you? Do you ever try to spark conversations up with guys you see in everyday life? I’m just not sure why a 29 year old attractive Woman or man can’t find someone compatible. Either the effort needed to …
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:22 PM
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It’s not sexist to say that women have it easier on dating apps. Stop seeing sexism and racism everywhere
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:15 PM
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A bit harsh but I agree. Any woman under 35 has it made on dating apps. All they have to do is stay in decent shape and post 1-2 decent pics and their inbox will be flooded with guys. They only have to decide which ones to talk to! Guys have to do the bulk of the messaging and carrying conversations etc etc . There are women that say it’s so exhausting having to read messages from different guys lol. They have no idea how mind numbing it is to have to craft messages and send them out to various …
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:12 PM
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Those women that think not having Fakebook is a red flag are sending out a red flag themselves ..ignore them and move on to the next one
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:08 PM
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I’ve never even seen the appeal of fakebook or Instagram. It’s all just about people wanting attention or complaining. Twitter is even worse in terms of toxicity. I recommend everyone to get off those sites and go outside. I’m still shocked how much time people spend on social media
/r/seduction16/03/21 11:07 PM
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Great post and I just made similar comment above! I recommend everyone, especially the younger people in late teens and 20s to get offline and just go outside. Grab your dog and take them to a dog park and smile and talk to people. If that’s not your thing, go join a club or something especially now with things opening up again. These dating apps are terrible . I’ve tried them and I’d never Mess with them again. I got much better results just smiling and talking to women in public places. It’s w…
/r/seduction16/03/21 09:28 PM
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I’m 38 and it’s a bit daunting isn’t it? What’s worse is at our age the pool of available women is much much smaller than it was in our teens and 20s lol. It’s even smaller if you don’t want to date single mothers I’ll be honest, I often think it seems counter productive to try and meet someone to date at this point in time. It’s not fun like it used to be when I was young and more care free lol
/r/seduction16/03/21 09:23 PM
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What’s worse is more people seem to revolve their entire dating life around online apps. I know Covid has messed things up but even before that, people were not going out and approaching in bars, parks or clubs. It seems the younger generation is all moving towards dating apps and that’s not good. I tried dating apps and they were dreadful. I got much better results just approaching women in public and just talking to them
/r/seduction16/03/21 09:18 PM
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Because men are supposed to lead the way. Men are supposed to be masculine and dominant and the ones calling the shots. I don’t care what your gender studies teacher taught you lol Oh and the reason why women don’t do it is because they don’t want to risk getting rejected either. Notice how girls never approach guys they are really into? It’s because they are riddled with insecurities and fear getting rejected just like guys
/r/seduction16/03/21 09:05 PM
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Haha girls don’t like the feeling of getting rejected either. They hate it even worse than guys and that’s why they don’t tend to make first moves or approach etc etc
/r/seduction16/03/21 09:01 PM
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I feel bad for younger guys in current society. They almost have to be cautious in terms of mild flirting and touching from what I understand.
/r/seduction16/03/21 09:00 PM
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Physical looks go a very long way . It’s why I tell all guys that are into women to work out lol
/r/seduction16/03/21 08:55 PM
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Flirting isn’t hard. She’s a woman, a human being like you. Just smile and talk to her and be fun. Watch her reactions and then act accordingly .
/r/seduction16/03/21 08:54 PM
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Yeah it really is . Ones, if a guy is 25 and he’s never had girls attracted to him or be into him for much else then how does he act with an abundance mindset? I have a few friends that are desperate for female attention and I don’t think I could ever teach them how to act or have an abundance mindset. Their immediate natural instinct is to give all attention to one woman that is nearby . The thought of acting sort of indifferent with her is not in the realm of possibility for them so they then …
/r/seduction16/03/21 08:48 PM
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Indifference will definitely help men when it comes to attracting women as long as you are fairly good looking and have decent social skills. If you act like it simply doesn’t matter whether she comes over and stays or whether she goes it trips something in a woman’s brain. Are you acting eager to have sex with them?women are very intuitive and can tell if a guy is over eager to get with them. You need to try to send them a loud and clear message to them that says ‘hey, if I’m not hooking up wit…
/r/seduction16/03/21 08:39 PM
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So it’s against social norms to walk up to people you don’t know and talk to them? That’s sad if your generation looks down on it. I can’t imagine having to rely on dating apps or social circle to meet women
/r/seduction16/03/21 04:11 PM
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Wait, how are these guys getting a females number without her knowledge? In these pick up videos I mean.
/r/seduction16/03/21 04:04 PM
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So what if it is manipulative? Men and women both engage in manipulation to get what they want out of the opposite sex. Why is it only shunned when it’s a guy manipulating a woman?
/r/seduction16/03/21 03:57 PM
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Lol women are less happy now than they have been for decades. I see many of them in a state of being told they should want this and that but internally want something completely different
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:57 AM
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I don’t know but it was the 3 women on the panel that kept on saying “but it’s not fair” .. the men were just saying how the dynamics of relationships work and the women were complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:48 AM
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Yes and no one had any problem when he was brutally honest with the guys. When he started telling women the same thing OH Lawd we can’t have that! Lol people trying to cancel Kevin just for being honest and treating both sexes the same way .. funny how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:41 AM
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Did you hear the woman at the end tell Donovan that men just “don’t put in effort” in terms of relationships 😂😂😂 again we see a very strong case of delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:19 AM
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He’s not talking about that part of their personality. He’s talking about their mindset, the way they look at men and relationships etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:16 AM
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I disagree that those 3 girls represent the minority of women. In terms of their mindset and ideology they are very similar to the vast majority of women out there. There’s variations of course but many women seem to expect an amazing partner that gives them everything while they give little in return
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:14 AM
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It’s just baffling that many modern women seem clueless as to what men want from them. They don’t realize we mostly want beauty and femininity but hostility and a good career. These women keep trying to claim they are alphas and bosses and I just shake my head The girl in the middle just got demolished . She needed to just give up halfway through but she kept deflecting 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:10 AM
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Lol those ladies couldn’t watch Samuels. Trust me though, they are very well aware of him .. many women are trying to get him canceled and we all know why .. truth is painful
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:05 AM
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Yes but he wants women to go back to acting traditionally but we are so far away from that at this moment .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:01 AM
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Samuels was surgically eviscerating those girls. The girl in the middle kept trying to deflect and move the goalposts yet Kevin just kept bringing the hammer down .. great episode
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 02:59 AM
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Spot on my friend! I’ve had quite a few conversations with women over the years and they just cannot grasp rather basic logic in terms of Men in relationships. Emotions completely interfere with their every perception Then again, if women were more logical like men, how would relationships work then? It would be a different game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 02:58 AM
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Agree. I watch Donovan and Numerous other red pill speakers and I can enjoy their content but there is nothing new. It seems all of them rehash the same core ideas over and over and I’m honestly surprised they still can put out enough content to keep audiences .
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 07:41 PM
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Donovan isn’t a PUA shill. He isn’t a pua at all
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 07:30 PM
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Ehh Donovan Sharpe is a very knowledgeable guy. He’s admitted to getting in trouble in the past. Does he want to sell his products? Of course but he does have quite a bit of useful info
/r/ExRedPill03/03/21 07:29 PM
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Of course women won’t be banned fur requiring a man be above 6 ft talk. It’s such a double standard though as weight can be controlled pretty easily but height cannot! Yet men can be banned for weight comments. Then again, what do I expect from a dating app started by feminists lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 12:53 AM
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I’m not surprised. Kids nowadays live their entire life online. They don’t exercise or go outside much. This will only get worse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 12:49 AM
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But they can lose their pregnancy weight but don’t for several reasons. Most that stay overweight then just blame it on pregnancy and act like it’s a lost battle but it’s not, at all. It may be harder to get back into shape after pregnancy but it is definitely possible for 95% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:04 AM
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So you think current obesity problem is due to drinking alcohol? I just see many people as getting lazier and lazier . People spend way too much time online and do not go outside to move around. It’s crazy as I’ll go for a bike ride during a nice summer day and there are no kids at the park or even outside in their yard . I’m talking pre COVID btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 12:00 AM
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I notice the same thing. I notice more and more obese people everywhere I go no Matter the state . It’s quite alarming at how many younger people are overweight and at how obese some folks are. Technology has messed us up. Good luck reversing this problem
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:58 PM
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I guess in bumble if you use any sort of ‘body shaming’ language in your profile or in messages that you will be banned from the site. Problem is, body shaming can mean a wide gamut of different things. I mean, I’m sure a guy will get banned if he said he wants only fit women but will a Roman get banned if she says she will only date guys above a certain height? I doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:55 PM
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The best are the overweight women that tell me that even though they eat right and exercise,they just cannot lose weight. Umm no, it’s just they have no clue what dieting means and their version of exercise is walking around the block twice a week 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:49 PM
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I’ve noticed if a guy mentions that he desires a woman in decent shape that many women get irate and start lashing out at him. Crazy thing is, us men aren’t demanding supermodels by any means, we just want a woman that is cute and stays in decent shape. I guess even that’s too much to ask When I was younger, I never had to even think about women’s weight as the vast majority of girls around my age were in nice shape. It has completely flipped around though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:45 PM
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What type of person needs to be taught what sexual consent is?!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:23 AM
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From what I’ve seen and experienced, very few modern marriages involve the “western love” aspect. There isn’t true passion for each other but they realize they need each other in many ways and are too afraid to get divorced and face the uncertainty and loneliness that comes with that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:20 AM
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I truly feel bad for young men this generation. The me too movement along with wokeness has ruined a good % of women. This ideology is not only making men more feminine but making women less desirable. It’s a double whammy and will have very bad consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:56 AM
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I just wish more women realized that their career doesn’t matter at all to us men. I mean, good for them but in terms of making them more attractive or appealing to us? Nope and it can actually be a negative Women. We want attractiveness, cool personality and femininity . That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:45 AM
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Women aren’t marrying up anymore? Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:42 AM
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It’s not a surprise that the group that scores the highest in terms of unhappiness are the single childless career women in their 30s. They’ve been told this lie that a career will make them self sufficient and that they won’t need a man and that this would create happiness. How wrong were they but these women don’t realize this until they realize the error on their 30s or so. Then it’s much more difficult to find a man when you make good money yet aren’t feminine or that attractive and don’t kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:40 AM
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Prenups have failed many men! They aren’t ironclad like some think
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:33 AM
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Lol yep. Modern women want masculinity only at certain times . Then they want the guy to turn into an emotional tampon for them for an hour or so then revert back to mr masculine. This is why many women are so unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:30 AM
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Lol feminism is dying out more every day. Less and less women are declaring themselves as feminist. People finally are realizing the damage that Feminism has caused women and men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:28 AM
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Dude hear me out. You don’t need women in your life. I don’t care what your mother told you. Get some hobbies and start working out. Just do things that make you happy and stop putting life importance on the validation from women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:27 AM
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I have no idea what planet you people live on. Lol at ending capitalism . Most ugly guys I know are doing fine, they just need to put more work in which they don’t seem to mind. Only online will you find the truly desperate ugly men and fat women that are totally unsuccessful in dating and the work force
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:25 AM
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Ehh of the marriages in familiar with, the men more than put in their work. It’s not lopsided in either direction. I just find that many women that aren’t totally happy 100% of the time will complain about their hubby. I know a handful of women whose husbands put in twice the work they do but you’d never know that by talking to them. According to these women, their husbands don’t do enough lol. It’s never enough to these women though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:19 AM
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Lol at these studies you are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:16 AM
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No, according to many studies, men actually do more in the marriage especially in modern times. No amount of work will please many of these women though do you get a lot of complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:15 AM
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I know quite a few women that overrate their own effort. I know 2 specifically that have husbands that put in much more overall work than they do but if you listened to the women talk, their husbands are completely lazy I mean, ultimately it’s not one side or the other who is lazier.. I know plenty of lazy wives
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:13 AM
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Oh it’s been proven that attractive people get privileges that average people don’t get. Your overall treatment from society will be much more positive . I think this is even more so with beautiful women. Attractive person privilege definitely exists
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:21 AM
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Yes, the bottom line is if you are good looking guy, you can be a heroin addict or just out of prison and plenty of women will still fall for you pretty fast. Just the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:15 AM
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Yes online dating is terrible even for good looking men so that’s why I tell guys that are average or below average to just forget about it unless they don’t care about having any standards
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:04 AM
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Yes, beauty privilege absolutely exists. It is pretty much guaranteed to make your life better in multiple ways
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 06:53 AM
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I get a nice amount of attention from women. They make it well known they are interested or attracted to me. I don’t act charismatic nor do I run pickup lines to them. I mostly act indifferent towards them. Nice but indifferent and this really gets them all in their head . They hate when men don’t pay them attention and fawn all over them. Sex is usually easy with Most of these women but I’m not exactly into that So no, if you are above average in looks you do not need a sparkling personality no…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 06:51 AM
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Why is Coach Greg’s channel demonetized? I know of other channels that say much worse things and they still seem to be monetized. YouTube is shady
/r/MGTOW214/02/21 06:31 AM
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Rape is a part of red pill?!?! Huh? No, no it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 06:16 AM
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Red pill should be mandatory for all boys when they turn 15. It would save many Men a world of hurt and frustration
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:59 AM
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Lol those courses they sell disturb me in a way. I cannot imagine a man in his 20s or above being at such a low point that he needs to pay for an expensive course on how to talk to women .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:55 AM
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I have never slept with a woman that wanted a submissive guy. The women I’ve talked to and slept with wanted a man to be masculine and dominant especially in the bedroom . The submissive guys I know are generally in terrible relationships and they dry a woman up like the Sahara
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:52 AM
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Agree, red pill pretty much just shines a bright light in female behavior. Much of it isn’t pretty and will likely shatter the vision you’ve formed in your youth. This is necessary though if men truly want to Have casual sex and make semi serious relationships work People bash red pill and I get why they would but I see it as brutal reality .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:49 AM
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Actually, obese women imo look worse than obese men . Men can put on muscle thus making their obesity a bit more hidden. Women cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:37 AM
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And the same goes for women. Sure, women have a different hormonal makeup but in terms of maintaining a decent body, it’s not that difficult to do. Exercise and watch your diet and yes, occasionally you should go to bed a bit hungry. This is what guys do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:35 AM
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Well there’s a big difference between a girl that ‘struggles’ with her weight and fat girls. I have no problem dating a girl that may be 10-15 pounds overweight BUt she exercises and tries to eat right! I will not date a fat woman that is 50 plus pounds overweight and doesn’t even try to stay in shape I see more and more obese people when I go out. It’s a bit disturbing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 05:33 AM
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Haha I agree, current movies are garbage. I mean, 98% is total shit .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:52 AM
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It seems most red pill guys are spouting the same basic ideas and strategies. I actually wonder how long they will be able to maintain their channel as there’s only so much you can talk about dating and picking up women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:47 AM
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Hmm so I have to wonder which drama channels are telling you that these guys aren’t good at pick up or dating? I’d like to see the videos just to see if there’s anything to it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:43 AM
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Some rp gurus are being outed by drama channels as not being good at pick up? How do these channels know? Do they have video evidence if these to gurus failing over and over? I will say this though that there is a rp guy that just had a huge increase in popularity that I don’t think he has any actual game in everyday life. Sure, he can tell his audience that he beats women off him every day like gnats but I think he’s full of shit. Besides him there are a handful of other red pill gurus that alt…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:37 AM
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Yes and I’ve encountered that multiple times both at work and outside of it. It’s a very touchy subject. I get it, women wanted to be looked at as equal to men in all aspects but if I talk to women the same way I talk to men, the women don’t take this too well. There simply is a big difference in terms of emotional sensitivity . I hear some women saying they want to swap gender roles and that they want men to treat them like equals. I’m talking in terms of relationships. It just doesn’t work tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:35 PM
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Many guys were taught when younger thst to attract women we had to be nice and sincere and be a good listener. So we try that in 7th grade and we find out it just doesn’t work lol. So we adapt and find out what truly works Many of us have found out to our disappointment what truly turns women on and attracts them to us. Imo once you find out what really works in terms of attracting women, it loses almost all of its enjoyment . It has for me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:24 PM
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True, most men are pretty simple when it comes to what they want in a woman. We want them to be feminine, attractive and fun. That’s it, they don’t need to even have a job or be intelligent or have the perfect body, just be feminine and fun and in decent shape. That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:05 PM
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I have to ask where are these statements coming from? I see more talk of both genders being almost identical and I really scratch my head as to where it’s coming from. Is it coming from feminists or..?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 10:01 PM
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Haha yes. I know several women that take steroids. They told me the effects steroids had on their personality was vast. Not all of these effects were positive btw but big changes were noticed. But no, guys and women feel and are the same 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:57 PM
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Yeah I get very confused when I hear people trying to claim there is very little difference between the two genders. I mean, come on people! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:53 PM
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It's pretty disturbing the rate at which women are getting fatter. I mean, are they giving up on trying to look attractive?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/20 12:56 AM
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I agree, I'm all for standards which should be adjusted per individual. That said, why would any decent quality guy have anything to do with a woman like this other than fucking and dumping? She has a face only pic, does that mean she weighs 400 pounds?! Girls, don't post pics of just your face lol. Most guys know what's up lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/12/20 12:55 AM
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And let me guess, the evidence that points to Fuentes being a white supremacist is nada? Lol I mean, the leftists have branded Denis Prager as a racist white supremacist 😂😂 .thats just hilarious but leftists entire belief system comes down to "if you don't believe everything I do you are racist and/or sexist" ..ridiculous
/r/TheRedPill19/11/20 03:08 AM
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Leftists pretty much only want to hear their own voice. Everyone else's needs to be censored completely. Leftists feel very threatened when someone speaks the brutal truth and think that person must be muted.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/20 03:04 AM
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Ehh but if a black person is beaten or shot by police, that's all the mainstream media shows for months on end. We all know who Geirge Floyd or Jacob Blaje is yet bring up Tony Timpa or Daniel Shaver abd people are like "who?!".. So you can't say msm doesn't care about blacks, they just care about specific black victims that can push their agenda
/r/TheRedPill19/11/20 03:01 AM
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You are young lol. The women that yell "I don't need no man" are saying that in a desperate attempt to convince themselves of it. The women that truly don't need men aren't going around saying it because they don't need to Here's the truth.. 98% of men want women, and 98% of women want men. Don't the females on here try to tell you differently
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:25 AM
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Haha exactly. The only place I encounter or hear about these truly independent women that don't need or want a man is on these forums. Seriously, in my everyday life, 98% of women seek out and need men in their lives. Same goes for men wanting women. The women on here that try to openly scream that they don't need men usually are the ones that need men the most. They aren't fooling anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:22 AM
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Hang out with guys that play sports and work out. Seriously, most of the guys I'm friends with exercise and or play sports. Lots of positive support going on. I don't know where that guy gets his info from in terms of most men being nihilistic. He must hang out with Antifa lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:18 AM
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Jesus Christ what kind of guys do you hang around?! I know a few negative guys but most male social circles I know are not nihilistic at all.. Women's friendship circles might be more optimistic but they are generally much more competitive with each other than men are. Watch closely, many female friendships are teetering on the edge of explosion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:17 AM
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But women want and crave men for other reasons than sex and money though. Women get more out of being with men than men Get from being with women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:03 AM
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Cmon lets be honest, women crave men's attention and love the comfort and protection men provide them. The only place where women truly seem to be independent and happy that way is on these online forums lol. In everyday life, 98% of women seek out men and vice versa. The women I know that earn nice money on their own also seek out men. The only ones that don't are fat and ugly..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:02 AM
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Do you blame men for masturbating to porn instead of going out and trying to pick up women? Especially for average or below average looking guys, why go out and try to pick up women and deal with the headache associated with it when you can satisfy that need instantly and then move on to something much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:57 AM
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Yes and that's truly frightening. There are 17 year olds getting sex transformations only to regret it a short time later. I cannot imagine letting any teenager make a decision to alter their sex. Way too young
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:48 AM
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I do not believe that 30% of gen z women are uninterested in men. All of the ones I'm around are chasing guys or already have boyfriends. I'm guessing a decent % of that 30% in the study are depressed or gender confused or gay/lesbian I mean, online is the only place I hear about women disinterested in men. Pretty much everything I see and experience in everyday life mirrors the exact opposite. Women and men are pretty much constantly seeking the other out
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:45 AM
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I'm sure some guys get jealous but nothing close to the level of jealousy in women. I've seen adult women have fits in public when another woman looks and smiles at her BF
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:33 AM
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Yep and I think it mostly comes down to self confidence. Men don't derive all of their confidence from their looks so if they see a good looking guy, it's not a big deal usually..women, however tend to get very insecure very fast around women that are more attractive than them. I never realized how competitive girls are when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:27 AM
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It's not even close in my experience. Attractive women get hated on muuuuccchhh more by unattractive women. Many women I've found seem to be very insecure and when they are around a very attractive woman, their claws come out. They start hating right away and try to find any reason to dislike the hot women. There's a few women in my neighborhood that are in their early 30s and stay in fantastic shape. I've heard so much anger and hatred towards these women by other women. Everything you can imag…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:25 AM
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I've never seen a woman with somewhat decent questions just get called names on here. There are men that are assholes but most will answer your questions and counter with answers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:39 PM
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TRP guys have shortcomings but the FDS ladies are delusional and toxic to a level that goes beyond anything I've ever seen ..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:36 PM
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Id say 90% fit into those categories. It's either women that are happily married and make 6 figures at their job 😂😂 black pill incels, and. Don juans I've akways said that Married women that are too eager to proclaim they are happy, are not happy. Same goes for the eternally single childless women that say they are super happy living that way. Guys that brag about getting laid all the time, usually are not getting laid all the time. I only come on here occasionally but it all boils down to the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:34 PM
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You sound like a very hurt damaged woman. Stay away from all men from here on out. You'd be doing them a big favor 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:26 PM
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Aww sounds like someone has been played and dumped by numerous white men 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:24 PM
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It goes both ways though. I've had numerous women hit me in attempts at flirting. No one should be searching your sub for any reason though. The level of mental illness festering there is high
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:21 PM
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You are delusional. How does society romanticize women's abuse? You should stop huffing paint immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:17 PM
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No, women don't like naked ambition. I know many men that are very ambitious yet haven't succeeded yet in their career and women steer clear of them for the most part. Yet just watch when he finally starts making $300k a year. Women will be pursuing him and we all know this. Ambition alone is meaningless to women, they want what it usually brings which is money, comfort and nice vacations and clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:26 AM
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Lol if men don't add anything of value to women's lives, why do 99% of them crave to be in a rekationship with said men? Guys could say the same thing about women, that they add nothing of value beyond a vagina and that could be had without commitment Let's be honest here, women need men much more than men need women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:16 AM
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Lol most men are greatly exaggerating when they talk about wanting virgins though. Most men will accept many other types of women and be fine with it . Be Somewhat attractive, have decent body shape and be feminine ..these 3 things will get most guys interested and willing to pursue you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:13 AM
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Guys standards are not that high though. If a woman is cute and feminine then we will date them. It's really that simple, we don't care about her education or job or what car she drives or how popular they are. Just maintain a nice body shape and be cute and feminine. Seriously this isn't asking for too much Women seem to want a mix of very opposing traits in the same guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:04 AM
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Define what you mean by decent . It could cover such a wide range of traits
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 06:01 AM
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I have a girlfriend that's a feminazi and she couldn't even handle the Fds sub. I'd like to see what that subs members look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:55 AM
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Even at 19 years old, he should have been much smarter than that. He should have realized that this was a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:48 AM
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I think you are correct. Although Rollos might have some alpha characteristics, I bet he found a woman that truly likes him for who he is. his situation thus is very rare Sure, there are natural alphas out there but from what I understand, women will still constantly shit test him and try to test his alpha. As a guy gets older, he tends to relax so the idea that he has to keep frame and never show 'weakness' in front of her just seems impossible. We all know very naturally alpha guys who've been…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/20 10:06 PM
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Yes it is to some men. They want to know how to talk to women and how to get women To be attracted to them. I'm still trying to understand tRP as like my post mentioned, I'm confused on some details
/r/TheRedPill17/10/20 09:59 PM
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I agree, I do listen to Rollos podcast at times but he is way too long winded. At times, he goes very in depth yet while not really saying much .
/r/TheRedPill17/10/20 09:57 PM
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You think this is overthinking? It's a rather simple question
/r/TheRedPill17/10/20 09:55 PM
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Doesn't Rollo basically recommend men just date in-exclusively forever? Yet he said he doesn't recommend men just spin plates for the rest of their life? I'm just a bit unsure on what he expects older men to do. A truly workable formula
/r/TheRedPill16/10/20 10:17 PM
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Great post and the types I was hoping to see! You are correct, it's an impossible standard to live up to, it diesnt matter if you are Rollo, Will Smith or Average guy. Many red pillers that are in long term relationships keep saying to listeners that they should "never show weakness in from of your woman. Never dare cry in front of her!" Lest you will lose all attraction on the spot. How is this possible? Is a man supposed to be alpha, stone cold, emotionless 24/7 ? Even if this was possible, do…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/20 09:20 PM
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Ok I understand that but let's be honest. Most men are not alpha, they are average or below so how can they expect to be dominant in a rekationship for years? Should they just pretend to be alpha like many do? I guess what I'm saying is tRP says women will always go to the higher value man, how do the majority of men stand a chance at keeping their women attracted to them long term? Sure, you will have average men that are successful and will get into a career where they will make millions but m…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/20 09:08 PM
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As a borderline asexual man, I reached the point several years ago where I often can't find much of value in terms of being with a woman. The conversations are generally terrible and many need to constantly be "propped up" emotionally. It gets boring and exhausting and without the sex, what is the value for the man? Occasional companionship? I can get that from my guy buddies and they are more intetesting to talk to as our hobbies align better..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 10:27 PM
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I'm not sure what FDS women actually offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 10:22 PM
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Mad skill to make out with a girl sober?!? What?!? You are saying kissing a girl takes skill? No, no it doesn't at all. You let instinct and passion take over. Making out is very basic stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:32 PM
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Lol yes it's pretty much that simple..drugs/booze are fun and very effective social bonding agents
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:29 PM
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Boo fucking hoo. Black and brown people aren't forced to traffick and sell or take drugs so stop with the woke victim game. It's tired
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:28 PM
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Why do you think more people used drugs back then compared to now? I know lots of folks that smoke weed, pop pills, snort whatever.. It doesn't seem like drug use is down to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 07:25 PM
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Yes, just imagine bars and clubs with NO alcohol available. Would people still go? Would it be hakf as fun ? Would people still enjoy meeting one another? I know I was only able to enjoy the bar setting in the past when I was drinking quite a bit of alcohol or on other drugs. Being in a bar sober for me was just not fun at all and actually the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:50 AM
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No you don't but both alcohol and drugs make the whole experience much more enjoyable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:45 AM
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Haha great question .. As a pretty introverted aspergers-lite guy that hates small talk and most aspects of "pick up", using drugs or alcohol were almost mandatory for me to go out, talk to and flirt with women and take it further. I've tried it sober and I'm honestly bored senseless in the first 10 minutes after approaching a woman. I don't know how those PUA guys or anyone for that matter go out multiple times a week, spending hours in bars and clubs talking to women sober lofl. They are a dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:44 AM
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Have you never drank alcohol or taken drugs? If not, drugs and alcohol are amazing at social disinhibition ..drugs like MDMA and Ghb make sex 10 times more enjoyable ..they also allow you to connect with someone on a very deep level even if you don't know them all that well God, if it weren't for drugs and alcohol, I wouldn't have met 90% of the girls I have lol.. For an introverted asocial guy, drugs are almost a necessity when it comes to meeting women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:39 AM
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Many Women's social skills are terrible though. I'm baffled after talking to women that do not know how to have engaging "back and forth" conversation Good leaders are not highly emotional .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 05:39 AM
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Ehh many of these women just want to be approached by men so they can feel pretty or validated. They don't want anything from these men but a dose of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 05:30 AM
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Way too much work. You expect women to type a few sentences and send it out to men they like?! I've seen girls on here say online dating is so tiring as is having to go through mens messages 😳😳😳
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 05:22 AM
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Btw you are 23 so you are imo technically in your "prime" for meeting people and forming new relationships. Seriously, most people in their early 20s are eager to meet new people to boost their social circle. I get with Covid it's much harder but it will lighten up eventually Besides, if you think it's hard to form relationships in your early 20s, you are in a world of hurt when you hit your 30s.. I regret not trying harder to meet folks in my 20s ..what are your hobbies? Start there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 06:06 AM
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It's pretty messed up out there I agree. Are you looking to befriend males though? If so, that is always going to be messy so I recommend sticking with your own gender when it comes to friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 06:00 AM
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Many of the guys here are. They are basically defeated before they even get started
/r/TheRedPill22/09/20 05:50 AM
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There is much much more to life than getting love and attention from a woman though. I mean, no offense but it's no wonder some of you get used and manipulated by girls so easily. You have put attention and validation from women as the sole reason for living. Women will sense this about you and do what they do. Your idea of being happy and in love with the perfect woman isn't reality. Look elsewhere for your fulfillment.. Religion, hobbies, volunteering etc etc
/r/TheRedPill22/09/20 05:39 AM
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Most men and women are chasing an impossible dream. Women seem to be chasing even more unrealistic standards though.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/20 05:29 AM
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There are women who simp ..they may not pay a guy for dick pics but they absolutely resort to very lame things to give abd get a guys attention abd interest. There are some very thirsty women out there.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/20 10:10 PM
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You are over thinking this. Seriously, turn off wifi and go outside, talk to women or fly a kite, have fun. The more you analyze this crap the worse you'll be. There is no route to sure fire happiness and you sure as hell won't find it by surfing the web
/r/TheRedPill21/09/20 10:08 PM
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You seriously need to get off the internet. You are reading way too many red or black pill articles lol. The world is not black abd white like you think. There are couples out there where both parties love each other and they've been together for many years. You act as if the minute a guy shows love for his gf that she leaves lol.. "Addicted to her love" Jesus Christ what does that even mean? That honestly sounds pathetic. I guess if you did get all weirded and needy about her love she would fee…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/20 10:04 PM
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Your post reeks of low value, no offense. You've never had girls pursue you endkessly? You've never had them go out of their way to try to get your attention and interest? If not, you are doing something very wrong..start working out, develop your personality etc etc Wrong, only a small % of women don't need male providers and even these women still crave a mans safety and affection. Women are much more emotional and need that void filled and friends don't cut it I've still games women that I ha…
/r/TheRedPill21/09/20 09:59 PM
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Is this to men abd women? Guy here, give me that ps5 over any date with any woman. No brainer to me.. I like lasting value ..I'm an Xbox guy but would still favor the ps5 much more over a dinner date Going out to eat at an expensive restaurant has never been enjoyable to me. Going out to eat period is jpnot my idea of fun
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 09:02 PM
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I had a kink since I started getting erections so in my case, I had a kink at a very young age and many other men do as well. I don't think kinks just develop by seeing them on the screen. You might find something that gets you off more but I don't think guys that are into normal sex will stumble upon some crazy kink stuff and be immediately under its spell ..kinks start pretty young for many
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 06:25 AM
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It is scary with how accessible porn is to everyone these days. Boys in junior high have access to all types of porn and it's free. I can just imagine this damaging their ability to enjoy normal sex with a normal looking girl. How do you rerouted that pleasure pathway? It's hard to dial the intensity back and still get the fun.. You forgot drinking alcohol as hobbies guys like lol. So many guys just like to drink and that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 06:21 AM
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I have to disagree in my experience. The girls I've talked to really didn't seem to give a shit about my social circle but I did have muscles and they liked those. Granted, I was on top of my game with these women and it was only casual dating .. I honestly have yet to meet a girl that was turned off by my "loner" status but I do try to come off as aloof and mysterious so perhaps that combined with good body and fun personality overrode the lack of social status? Who the hell knows, too many var…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 06:12 AM
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A good strong muscular body will get women's attention though. It's just another good attribute to have and I'm not talking about being the size of a pro bodybuilder though lol But yes, if guys think bigger muscles will make up for a weak nervous personality, they are mistaken
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 06:02 AM
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What kind of girls are you trying to meet or attract? Are they just barely average and above or are they super hot types? I had an Asian friend that was around 5'5 but he didn't have big problems getting girls. He was super charismatic and outgoing though and this matters big time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 05:57 AM
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Yep, even good looking guys have to jump through hoops to get attractive women. Good looking guys might get average looking girls to pursue them but when it comes to 7-10 level women, better prepare to put in some work. It's probably why I'm not even trying at this point lol.mthe juice doesn't come close to being worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 05:55 AM
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"Dating isn't enjoyable for average men" I've always thought most people liked dating but am I wrong? I see many men and women complain about dating but not sure if they are in the minority. I hate to brag but I consider myself to be a good looking guy that stays in pretty good shape and I despise dating lol. I hate the whole mind numbing process of meeting women abd going through the small talk ..plus, Getting immediate attraction from women doesn't necessarily mean the guy doesn't have to then…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 05:53 AM
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Looks matter a huge deal in this scenario. Most Girls in their 20s will melt pretty easily around a good looking charismatic guy in his 30s even if he's broke lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:50 AM
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Ehh if you are a above average looking guy and are in good shape in your early 30s and you are remotely charismatic, it's pretty easy to have sex with girls in their early 20s. I mean, humble brag here but I've never been an outgoing guy but girls in their 20s used to approach me and they are very easy to "game".. I'm not saying all are but if you carry yourself a certain way, I don't care if you are broke, you will still find girls in their 20s willing to fuck you. It's very easy to make girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:49 AM
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Ahh man, when I read or hear of guys that ask women out, then spoil them for weeks or even longer and still aren't getting laid, I cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:34 AM
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If sex wasn't pleasurable would men still seek women out for dating or serious relationships? As a guy that is borderline asexual, a serious relationship with a woman strikes me as damn near pointless. Well, it just seems like a ton of work for very little reward
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:31 AM
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I honestly don't know why I'm on this forum. It's a bunch of jaded folks basically and I'm not learning anything. Part of me feels like I regress when I read this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:17 AM
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But us guys don't understand why you'd go back to previous gate places with these men in the first place. If you have no desire to have sex with these men, why are you in his bedroom alone with him or at a motel room alone? Are these guys tricking you into these places somehow? And are you letting these guys know prior to meeting up that you aren't interested in sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:08 AM
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Soo many women will have sex with a guy but then be totally devastated when he loses interest afterwards. Women still do not understand that just because a man wants to have sex with you, doesn't mean that he loves you and wants to be with you forever lol. Men have sex to fulfill a desire and for immediate pleasure, women do it for other reasons which I don't understand 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 02:03 AM
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Because they want men to like them ..they want to feel validated and loved
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:59 AM
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Why feel gross after sex if it's with a guy you are attracted to and like? Women overthink sex 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:56 AM
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Damn, are there men out there dating women for a month before she is willing to have sex with him?!? Most girls tell me if they don't put out by the 3-4th date the guy is gone lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 01:52 AM
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Ehh most guys don't give a shit if an attractive girl is boring if they just want to have sex with them. It's not childish for a to want to get a woman to come over and have sex with her .hes simply fulfilling his desire, nothing wrong with that at all Lol at being straightforward online. The vast majority of people are not because if they were, they'd blow their whole game
/r/seduction17/09/20 04:13 AM
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Lofl I've talked to quite a few women online that were painfully dull. They seemed eager to talk but just weren't saying much. Despite how she looks, if she's boring it's a big turn off for me. It is never childish to invite a woman over to have sex with. Who told you it was? You are a guy trying to fulfill the strongest desire you have, it's normal. It all depends how horny you are really.. If you are dying to have sex with her then you could handle her boring nature
/r/seduction17/09/20 04:10 AM
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It's very well known that when women have a certain amount of sex partners, they lose the ability to "pair bond".. I forget the exact number of sex partners but it's not that high, it's not higher than 8-10. So, just imagine a woman that has had sex with 50 men, their ability to bond over sex or anything ekse is basically non existent
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:18 PM
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Because it doesn't start out like that. Many guys have told me their woman was amazing for the first few years but then she changed and the dynamics were all different. By then, they are usually married so it's difficult to just end or get rid of her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:10 PM
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Ohh divorce is really not that simple lol. It's not just about realizing your partner is no longer comparable and getting a divorce and that's that. I know many men stuck in shitty marriages yet they can't afford to get a divorce . Plus, they have no idea if the other side will be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:08 PM
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I've talked to quite a few dominant women or so-called 100% pro dominatrixes. It's just their job and behind closed doors, they enjoy being the sub! Even the most staunchly declared dommes like to be dominated by the right man. Very few if any women truly get turned on by dominating men lol. If it wasn't for the money aspect, they wouldn't be doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:05 PM
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Oh online addiction may not be as harmful as heroin addiction but online addiction is the right term for many of us. I really don't think many folks realize just how dependent and addicted they are on wifi whether it's YouTube, Instagram, Reddit or pornhub. Just a quick way to prove this..just take away a persons wifi and within hours they are irate.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:53 PM
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Everything in moderation sounds great but let's be honest, do you or most of us only surf Reddit occasionally? I'm willing to bet we all spend more time on here and other online sites than we'd like to admit. I bet if our online time spent was beamed above our head for everyone to see, most of us would be ashamed and start going outside more or doing other things.
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:47 PM
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Oh man just thinking about going to a bar is just not appealing at all to me .. It's only remotely fun if I am drunk . Reddit blows away the bar every day
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:44 PM
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That's also a great point I find the info I get and conversations I have on Reddit are so much more rewarding than the info or conversations I'll get from going out with friends . .its not even comparable really so Reddit will be a hard habit to break. We may waste time on here but we also learn a lot and are very entertained
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:42 PM
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Lol less than 5 hours a day?!? 4 hours of phone time is still a lot!
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:39 PM
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Reddit, YouTube and Instagram are hige addictions and time sinks for many people. Oh and Twitter has to be up there too. How do you break the instant gratification of wifi though? You don't need to walk outside, you have instant entertainment at your fingertips
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:36 PM
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Reddit, YouTube and Instagram are absolutely addictions to many people. They don't realize how much time they or we waste on these things. I didn't grow up with social media though. I didn't even get online access until mid 20s. These young kids though that literally had an iPad and wifi at the age of 7, their addictions are hardcore. I can go shopping or take a walk and leave my phone home and have no issues. Ask a young person to do this and they will look at you like you are insane. Good luck…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:33 PM
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I don't know what it is with women but they seem unable to see their faults and be accountable. You can catch them on video doing bad things and it diesnt matter, they will deflect or start crying and claim you are attacking them. They will do anything but taje respnsibility for doing something wrong even if it's rather trivial. I just don't understand how women can fix problems in their life if they can't see their own mistakes and adjust..? I guess this is why they don't and keep releasing the…
/r/TheRedPill15/09/20 07:17 PM
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I have no problems with women selling sex. Prostituion should be legal everywhere. Onlyfans isn't sex though, it's basically online role play with a person you will never even meet or touch. I guess women don't even need to show their face on these onlyfans sites? I have a bigger problem with the very low quality men that pay these women on onlyfans than the women on the sites. It's a sad state of affairs when men will pay a woman hundreds of dollars to suck on a banana or shove a cantaloupe in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:28 AM
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I do not know any men that dislike being approached by women that are remotely attractive and decent. Hell, I know quite a few guys whose day it would make if a woman approached them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:15 AM
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But many folks are depressed not because their life truly sucks but that the image they have of what a "good life" is unrealistic .they go on social media apps and see the highlights of other people's lives and since their life doesn't seem to match up, they feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:04 AM
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He'll if I know but how do you measure happiness? It's a temporary state. Are men happier now than they were in the 1970s ? If not, when were men the happiest? When was the happiest time for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:47 AM
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Haha true, Antifa are basically the complete rejects in society hot together and formed a gang
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:18 AM
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I seriously doubt the main reason you want a guy with money is so you can taje the year off after birth lol. I mean, please be honest . we all pretty much know why you want guys that make good money Just one more case where women either don't truly know what they want out of men or they are just being deceitful ..which is it? Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:56 AM
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"But all the women I know that are married are loyal" Do you live in heaven? No seriously, you have no clue if those women are loyal. The more educated a lady doesn't mean she is more moral than than anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:43 AM
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Well it seems most men are picking terrible women then. Where are the good ones at?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:41 AM
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"And knowing that someone will have your back at all times" Haha no such person exists. If you expect this from a woman then you are in for a huge disappointment. Many women will get very turned off or lose attraction by you talking about your problems . In fact, your gf or wife will instead be a big source of your stress .. Many guys I know are constantly stressed out due to the woman they are with and it could be due to millions of little things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:39 AM
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I don't need female validation. You need to learn that you don't either. Stop trying to fit into society's norms. I have very little desire for warmth or romantic intimacy so it's very easy for me Thete are times I do feel lonely but it is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:32 AM
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Just think the time, money and effort you save by masturbating. I see guys taking women out on dates, spending money on them, dealing with drama and nagging just to get laid. It's really pretty absurd to think about how lopsided the /effort/reward ratio is when it comes having sex with women. Guys just gotta chase pussy and female validation though. They simply can't go a few days without seeking it out.. Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:26 AM
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I highly recommend pornhub. There have been times I felt like reaching out to a woman to hang out but then I went to pornhub and short time later my entire desire to call said woman is gone completely
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:23 AM
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"Aren't you putting in more effort than just maintaining a normal LTR? Hell no you aren't, I don't even understand how you could possibly think this.. How would a bachelor be putting in as much effort as a guy in a long term rekationship? A serious relationship takes a lot of work and time. Being bachelor is pretty fucking easy lol As a bachelor, I'm not constantly on the hunt.in fact it's the opposite. I put very little if any effort into pursuing women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:20 AM
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Honestly, how many hours per day do women generally domed cleaning the house? According to many, they act like its pretty physically demanding and that they are at it all day long ..is it really though? Washing clothes is simple, just put clothes into washer..same thing for dishes..vacuuming is a bit of effort but still not that hard. Dusting is cake.. So, I'd say women might spend 2 hours a day doing household things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:13 AM
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The relationships I'm familiar with, the house duties are pretty much even. The woman vacuums, washes clothes and keeps things tidy whereas the man handles car maintenance, household appliance maintenance. This may sound uneven but it's not when you consider the headaches and time that go into fixing broken appliances or building decks etc etc . Honestly, I know how easily these things can get out of hand so if anything, the men have the harder "to do" list. Then again, I do know how tough it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:11 AM
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So basically they want borderline perfect husbands? gee I wonder why many women seem unhappy with these expectations 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 03:01 AM
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So accurate, many men on here act like they have to be super successful, wealthy and be great looking and charismatic in order to get a decent woman.l. Nooooo guys, stop believing that nonsense. Many guys seem to be talking themselves out of the game
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:11 AM
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Women can maintain great body shape after 1-2 kids if they work at it! Diet, nutrients and exercise play a huge part and many women lose dedication after having a kid. They see it's a bit harder to get into shape do they give up and just start eating crap food. I have cringed when I ran into a few high school hotties that had kids in their 20s and look terrible. But yes, I do think women will regret it either way. The writer of Sex and the City came out and said she totally regrets not having ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:28 AM
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Wow, it takes a year for you to get sexually bored with a mate?!? That's actually a long time to me, I'm usually bored sexually with women over days or weeks. This is a big reason why being single is the best option for me I look at relationships where people have been together for decades and I guess the sex interest is still there. I just don't know how that's possible though lofl
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:22 AM
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What I notice is many married women with kids are largely unhappy but the women I know around their age that aren't married and are childless, are even unhappier! Granted, the pool of women I know is not in the millions but it's something many others are noticing as well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:15 AM
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Studies are showing that the most unhappy demo graphic is childless women between age of 30-40.. Many of these women are successful in business and other areas but childless and without a boyfriend or husband. Studies can be flawed but the older women I know that are single and childless really are bitter people .. This idea that women can just dive into their career in their 20s abd 30s and save money, travel and be happy living on their own is just not reality for 98% of women. Sadly it takes …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:11 AM
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What women are you hanging around? The % of women I know that can support themselves and live on their own and be fine with it is a very small %.. It may be different numbers in your area, I'm not sure. Most women I know want men though despite how much they make. You act like most women are making big bucks with no student debt and are totally independent and perfectly fine with it. Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 01:04 AM
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Bachelors really don't need to be "well off" to have fun with nice looking women though. Guys on here act like only super rich Chads are the only guys having fun but that is just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:50 AM
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Perfect Recipe for unhappiness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:44 AM
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I think girls like you have plenty of options but they want the higher value guys that don't want them. When these higher value guys reject them, they get pissed and say "where have all the good guys went?!" Well, there are plenty of good guys that would treat you great but you aren't as attracted or excited by them. This type of pattern leaves many women to be constantly unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:40 AM
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I wonder the same thing especially in a woman's case. If a girl is trying to attract higher quality guys that have options that are more attractive than she is, can this girl overcome this somehow to get the guys attraction? I'd say in most cases she couldn't as its instinctual, the guys are automatically checking NO when they are around this girl.. Guys can be funny and buy girls things in an attempt to look better to women but a woman that tries these things with guys will just look desperate …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:30 AM
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OH us guys know when girls are interested in us. No matter how hard girls try to not seem interested in a guy, they give it away through behavior.. Like you said, it's unconscious and automatic .. My nephews wife acts this way towards me and I can tell she tries to dial it back but it doesn't work. It's a bit awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:22 AM
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. Wait OP, your main take away from all this is that men don't like women that try to look attractive?! 😳😳😳😳 Ahhh no that's not it at all 😂😂 It's very simple, the guys you are trying to attract are out of your league ..the guys you aren't trying to attract are more right at the level of men you can realistically attract
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:15 AM
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Many women are guilty of this though. They have a blind spot when it comes to knowing where they stand in the pecking order. I think online apps and social media have really warped women's sense of self. They seem lost as to what they can realistically attract
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 12:11 AM
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Good post and I agree! Most people need to love themselves first and foremost and be fine with being alone. This will never tucking happen though lol.. Most guys would have problems with this and women would have an even harder problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:59 PM
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Command attraction from women how though? By having a great body or by owning a very large business? Something ekse?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:49 AM
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Yes indeed. Many men in their 30s still have this notion of finding a "good woman" that Is somewhat attractive Doesn't cheat Supports him Doesn't nag Isn't too emotional That loves him like he loves her Complete idiots these guys are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:48 AM
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Id love to see prostituion legalized everywhere and thus more socially acceptable. Also, for sex dolls to become very realistic .this would give men 2 options to satisfy their sex drive without having to date. I bet if this happened that many men would stop approaching women for anything but how would women handle this? They are already starting to complain about men not approaching them in public Would women step up their game to attract more men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:40 AM
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Melania is with Trump because he has a huge cock though along with amazing personality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:17 PM
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That's what red pill is all about! That is the core of red pill but many women still have a big problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:16 PM
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Marriage, A symbolic act ?! Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:15 PM
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But why do high quality women want marriage so badly? If they themselves are high quality, earn themselves a nice living, are self contained and independent, why aim to get married at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:10 PM
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But you can still talk to girls and gave sex with them, just don't take it further than that. Don't let feelings get involved and don't treat her like anything special.. Red pill is not a reason to give up completely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:06 PM
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80% is a mind blowing number but I do sense more and more people are waking up to the reality of modern dating. Is it worth it for either side? I've wondered about the future effects of red pill and females reaction to it. What are things tpgoing to look like 25 years down the road? Are we going to have tons of single men content going their own way and females trying to stay away from men?! I know women need men much more than men need women when you get to the basics so I think women will ulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 10:04 PM
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Why would red pill maje you feel demoralized? Did it burst the outrageous and false ideas you had of women and human relationships? If so, that's a good thing actually, it's much better you see the light now as compared to not seeing it until your wife is divorce raping you in court.. You need to look at it like this I'm single and mostly agree with red pill and my desire for serious relationships is about zilch.. My desire to meet women is pretty low but I do have a few women trying to reach ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:59 PM
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You are basically completely backing up Red Pill philosophy. Most mens experiences do indeed back up Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:47 PM
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Ok but how do men try to make you feel good on online dating apps? You are only going by their pics and written words? Plus, if you've read around a bit, you'll realize most average or below average men have terrible results on these dating apps. No matter how witty, confident or whatever they come across, their results are crap. So whereas your account is saying you don't go by looks but by how a man makes you feel, it does appear that the vast majority of women do go by looks . I think you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:42 PM
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Yep, kind words from a fat bald guy won't make a girl feel better at all(can actually creep her out) but you can then have a good looking guy say those same words to her, and she will blush and smile and just feel all good inside
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:17 AM
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I'm far from an incel but even I have a problem with the girls story.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:12 AM
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It's possible the guy had attention from other girls IF he had super high social status ..his average looks and cool personality is not going to get him attention from lots of other women. It just doesn't work like that unless he has other amazing qualities that make up for his lack of looks
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 06:10 AM
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Wait, so you are very good looking with money but is short and still have problems with attracting women? Are you talking about super models or just cute next door types? I always am skeptical when women claim to get rejected by pretty much all the men they talk to. These women must be very ugly and fat or they must come off as the most toxic feminazi on planet earth. Average looking feminine acting girls will land guys without much of a problem.all they need to do is simply go outside and guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:58 AM
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It's controversial but yes, I do believe powerful men are born that way. They have the general genetic recipe for success ..traits like Low anxiety, outgoing, charismatic they are born with and then when they start to go around girls, success comes easy so that builds even more confidence. I know confidence can be increased but some people just seem to have it from an early age. It doesn't even matter if these people fail, they have the inner strength and confidence to dive right back in. Wherea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:51 AM
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Lol yeah, just be really outgoing, charismatic, warm yet indifferent and mysterious. Cmon bro, it's easy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:45 AM
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Hhaha yes we've all been around guys that have no pretense and ate average looking yet try to make up for it by bragging about how good they are at everything. They don't realize any decent woman or person can see right through this facade
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:37 PM
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That's the core problem like I said above. Most men are just decent at life, nothing they have done well you have given them a high level of confidence. In fact, most guys suck at getting women and do poorly in other areas as well so how are these guys supposed to be 'cool and confident' if they truly aren't that successful at much beyond working on cars or their PC? So many just tell these guys "just be confident and fun and outgoing too!" Lofl like these traits just come naturally. Then you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:36 PM
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Ehh it's quite obvious with the very fast growing % of women(young and old) that are obese, that many women are skipping the gym altogether and just going to Burger King and home 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:29 PM
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Men don't need to do much to look attractive though. Just take a shower, make sure clothes are clean and that's it. Shit, good looking guys can get away with wearing dirty clothes and women will still want their snick lol..Women that spend an hour plus on makeup and their hair are not realky that attractive without the makeup. It's like a smoke and mirrors show
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:27 PM
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It would be fun to conduct a study and have an average looking but overweight guy go into parties or bars and see if his confident, charismatic, and fun personality is 'enough' to attract women. In my experience, the fun outgoing fat guys will be able to attract women but they are of lower quality.. Very few if any attractive women are going to feel attracted to a guy with a bit of a gut.. That is, unless the guy is a pro baseball player and is fun and confident etc etc A guy still must look a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 08:21 PM
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True, a guy can be really good looking but if he's boring or super nervous or quiet, girls will lose interest in him. Ehh my pudgy outgoing buddies might akways have had female attention, it wasn't from the real attractive women. I consider myself above average looking and if I'm socially "on" I get much more interest from women ..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 05:59 AM
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So basically be fun, charismatic,nice and confident? Yeah most of us guys know that already but the biggest problem is many men just are not confident nor charismatic. They are a bit on the 'dry' side so these guys basically have to 'pretend' to be fun and confident ..either the women then can tell they are pretending to be sonething they are not or they lose the ability to keep up the charade so they stop and the woman loses interest But I think the same advice goes for women. Of course, men li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 05:55 AM
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I disagree.. A big problem women are facing now is obesity. I'm noticing more and more women are overweight and borderline obese. Old and young, black and white, it doesn't matter.. What is going on in America? Are women starting to get more sedentary due to technology? Are they eating more? I read a stat that said 70% of women in America are obese. This is frightening
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 05:46 AM
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Sad thing is, if a young woman reads FDS and applies it to her life, then she is going to be a very jaded and unhappily single woman for a long time. I'm all for not getting played by men but FDS is a level of toxicity that you only see in very disturbed old women so following their advice is not going to lead you to a good place.. Common sense really
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:57 AM
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I do agree with you in regards to TRP in supposedly chasing excellence when it seems to be about chasing validation from women in the end The Blue Pill is definitely sad. They only exist to mock red pill ..pathetic FDS is terrible. I had a girl friend who's a feminazi go check out FDS and even she was disgusted by what she saw there lol.enough said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:51 AM
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Black pill seems to think that only looks matter though. They act like a guy must be a 9-10 in order to attract women and that all he needs to do is show up and this just isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:44 AM
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I think it's a bit sad that Blue Pills only purpose for existence is to just mock Red Pill posts. I mean, if red pillers are sad then what's that make blue pillers who only exist to mock red pill ?! I mean, get a life folks ..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:41 AM
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Red Pill is most likely to turn me into someone that isn't a abuser but more apathetic about women overall. Like I can't be bothered with them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:59 AM
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Hmm I'm not sure but perhaps the area she lives in produce a certain type of guy? But I get your point, if she truly is dating a lot of guys and all of them want sex Immediately and are very pushy, then something isn't right. I didn't know certain regions in the world produced very aggressive, highly sexual borderline rapist men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:55 AM
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Lol men would get mad and storm out if you didn't let them touch you in certain areas? May I ask where you live? I'm guessing you are in your early 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:51 AM
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Where is the divorce rate at 42%? In America it's around 60% last I checked.. Plus I think many people these days are forced to stay in marriages due to not being able to afford the fallout of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:44 AM
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People are unhappier now.. And no, not all relationships failed back then.. I know quite a few that were very successful overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:42 AM
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Lofl my grandmothers and aunts are nothing like the women on FDS! If anything, they are the exact opposite yet were in pretty successful relationships .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:39 AM
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Ok, it's not all about sex but let's be honest here. If prostitution was legalized everywhere and thus became much more socially acceptable and virtual reality sex somehow evolved to where it got to the point where it was just as good if not better than sex with a woman. Do you think most men would still pursue women for serious relationships? i honestly don't think they would ..perhaps though, if these things existed, women would counter it or try to by stepping up their game big time...?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:33 AM
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Exactly, I just don't see how men could truly game a woman forever. Even if they could, who would want to as it would get exhausting and the reward wouldn't be worth the effort. I wonder how red pill guys like Rollo Tomassi are able to stay in long term relationships? He claims he doesn't "game" his wife but if he isn't, how does he make it work year after year?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:15 AM
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I know manipulative selfish men that control women with high self esteem.. High self esteem doesn't make you impervious to manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:11 AM
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Well the problem I see is there is no truly effective long-term behavior for men in serious relationships. Nice guys get totally fucked, bad boys fizzle out .. I just don't see how a man could realistically maintain frame with or "game" a woman for decades. I'm thinking in your situation and in other successful men's cases, they just happen to of gotten lucky in finding the right woman for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 05:09 AM
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My neighbor just found out the kid his wife just had wasn't his! Instead, it belonged to one of his co-workers that was obviously banging his wife on the side. He gets to go into work every day and work with the guy that his wife cheated on him with. He is in a very bad head space right now, very understandably. I can't imagine being him and get this, he spoiled his wife rotten for many years. He was the typical nice guy that never let go without ..ugh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:53 AM
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Yeah it's not about true love from what I've seen in my 35 plus years, it's more about which person can maintain power and manipulate the other to get mostly what they want. Serious relationships are one very long game basically
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:47 AM
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Eew I disagree with you there. If you think you can be in a serious relationship with a woman and be purely benevolent, then you are going to fail. I so wish this was not true but I see the same pattern in the failed marriages I've seen. The guy became weak or passive, lost control and the woman lost interest and cheated or divorced and went elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:43 AM
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The number of women that I've met that are both self aware and self critical is right around 1-2. Dead serious. So many women would never take blame for something even if it is painfully obvious that their behavior caused the problem. There is a huge blind spot there . I just don't know how women ever correct or fix problems if they cannot first admit they made a mistake or error?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:36 AM
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Yes and the kicker is, women in general seem to be much unhappier than previous generations! It seems do many women just don't know how to be happy or content with what they have. They could have a superstar boyfriend, live in a mansion and not have to work out r taje care of children yet they seem to still want MORE!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:24 AM
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I'm not saying I agree with you but I'd love to see prostitution legalized and thus socially acceptable. I'd also love for virtual reality sex to be just as good as the real thing. I'd be very curious if men could meet their sexual needs through prostitutes or robots, would they still pursue women for relationships? IMHO I think many men would lose all desire to be in serious relationships if this happened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:21 AM
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Atari documentary? Is it new? I love watching old clips on the Atari 2600 days. Brings back good memories
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:18 AM
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I notice there's quite a bit of dislike on both sides of the gender Can I enjoy women intellectually? Yes I can but I admit it's rare. Plus, usually the women I enjoy on an intellectual level are not the types I'm attracted to I do wonder though when it comes to serious relationships, what do women truly offer me aside from sex? It seems both sides are jaded especially at my age (mid 30s) so it makes things more difficult. A problem I have Is it seems that many women seem to want the man to do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/20 04:03 AM
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No, guys don't have to be very attractive to get women interested during cold encounters . I'm not saying you can be fat, sloppy dressed and not shaven though.. There are average looking guys that cold approach and do well with women. Do they get rejected? Of course but they still have good shot at getting a woman's interest if they are socially capable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:33 AM
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Less receptive to cold encounters?! I disagree, I think many women hate online dating as much as men so when they go out, if a guy is decent looking and not creepy or shaking, they would invite cold encounters .. There's a big part of me that wants to tell folks that have never went on online apps that they are NOT "missing out" on a damn thing lol..online dating is pretty awful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:27 AM
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Yep and in all women businesse departments they spend more time gossiping than they do working. All Women work forces would not be practical long term
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:22 AM
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It's puzzling to me how women don't understand that. If she has a high N count, many men will actually seek her out for casual sex but that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:03 AM
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Why are you so triggered by what the guy said? Lol I'm a guy and I see it the same way. We know how guys think so listen to us It doesn't matter who broke up with who, that's irrelevant . Had she not broke up with him, the relationship would have never lasted. These guys were most likely dating her for the easy sex all while looking for a different woman.. Happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 05:00 AM
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2 "Not actually committing" Ding ding ding And we have a winner! Number 2 is the right answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:55 AM
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That's what the guy is saying though, that the guys this woman dated had no serious intentions with her from the start. She might have broke up with him or him with her but it wouldn't have lasted long either way because the guys weren't into it for the long run. They might have said they were to appease her but deep down, it was for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:54 AM
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These men that never asked or seemed to care about it, how long did your relationships last with them? If a guy is looking for something casual with a girl, a fuck buddy for a few months, then of course he won't bring it up or care about it. If any of these men were serious about being in a long lasting relationship with you, they would absolutely care about your lay count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:49 AM
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Oh the vast majority of men definitely care if their possible gf has been with tons of men. It's an instinctual thing, when we find out a girl that we like or are attracted to has been with every man in the state, our stomach drops and our enthusiasm for that girl does way down. The desperate beta males don't like it that a woman has been with many men but will look past it because he doesn't have other options
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:43 AM
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The dramatic or jaded single mothers, fat emotional women, whores, bipolar or borderline pd gals, feminazis
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:38 AM
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Being Self absorbed .. if a woman is self absorbed(and many seem to be) then I drop them immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:32 AM
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Whoa you think men crave much more emotional support from women than women do from men?! In my experience this is ass backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:20 AM
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Yes and this is common with both men and women. Attraction isn't black and white or on and off. There are many levels to attraction .it may die down and dim and almost go out but something reignites that flame and attraction is strong again
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:16 AM
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Well then she was never really that attracted to you in the first place then. No offense to you but if a guy really hooks in a girl, she will come back to him over and over . I'm sure you are aware of plenty of relationships that are on/off for years on end. If all women lost all attraction within 5 seconds, this wouldn't be happening
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:12 AM
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Omg That's nonsense . That may be how you are but not all women. I know plenty of men that have won women back
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:09 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with this no matter what the studies show. I know quite a few women that still have strong feelings for the BF they had over a decade ago. Women from what I've seen generally do not easily move on from serious relationships . They carry it with them for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:02 AM
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I don't think "terrified" is what you think it means 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 03:43 AM
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Ahh you see though, TRP and PUA are designed to get a woman interested and attracted on an instinctual level. A guy with good game can and will make your daughter feel very positive towards them until he gets what he wants. PUA and TRP both work on confident women. It works on happy women, sad women, lonely women, outgoing women etc etc. I keep seeing women bash TRP and PUA and say it doesn't work. Well, if it doesn't work then why do women feel so strongly against it? Why bash it if it's a usel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:34 AM
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Why do sonething you don't want to do? It's simple, men have a very powerful sex drive and "game" is the fastest way to fulfill that desire or need . It's basically the means to an end. The reason guys don't like that that PUA or Red Pill game works is because we realize that women don't get excited by who we truly are as a person but more how we can make them feel . Now, this is no bother if a guy is just trying to get laid but for men in relationships, it's bad. Reason is, we realize that if w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:12 AM
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Nonsense, it's just a word. I don't label myself as red pill but if you are a good looking guy and know how to act, it's remarkably easy to excite a woman or give her the tingles. Literally within a few minutes if the guy looks and acts a certain way . I get why females wouldn't want to believe this is true but it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 06:04 AM
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Haha many women hate TRP and PUA and that isn't because it's full of lies and isn't effective..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:41 AM
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The problem is, for a man pretending to be interested and adding in a few things to make the girl feel special does get men laid. Does it work for ALL men all the time? No, but it has a pretty good track record. Again, this is another area that I don't like that it's true. I mean, if I can go up and "game" a woman to get laid, then many other men can too! I really don't like that this works on "happily married" women and others that are already in relationships with other guys. Most men realize …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:39 AM
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Honestly, it's not dumb. Most guys with any experience with women realize it isn't how well you treat a woman that will get you far with them, it's how you make them feel. If you can make a girl feel important or special or if you give her the tingles, then she is yours. I'd say this is true with the vast amount of women. They are much more emotionally driven than men Btw as a guy I do not like that it works this way with most women. I wish guys could just be who they are and treat a woman great…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:17 AM
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So you want or expect men to improve a woman's life? How so? Do women involved with men seek to improve the mans life or are they mostly focused on their own needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:06 AM
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He brings up a great point though. Women will do everything in their power(lots of manipulation) to get whatever they can out of the men they are with and TRP puts a stop to that. I mean, you are acting like women are truly benevolent creatures that would never do anything to secure the power or to get most of the advantages in her favor in a marriage or relationship Both sides are manipulating the other ..I wish it wasn't so but it is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 05:01 AM
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Not all women involved with TRP men are going to be unhappy though. TRP just saves men from making stupid decisions when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:55 AM
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Engaging in red pill can only benefit a man, they may not like the reality of it but after they adapt, they will be so much better off. I just wish all men were forced to take red pill classes in high school 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:49 AM
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Bad women also will make time for guys be they also seek to manipulate for their own reasons. It's not just men that are manipulating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:46 AM
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I agree, I'm so confused how women can leverage sex in order to get free food and other nice things(that men pay for with their hard earned money) and that's perfectly fine but if a guy manipulates a woman's behavior in order to get laid.. Omg what a scumbag! Women technically dont have to pay a cent either, just open her legs and hell, she might even enjoy it as well lol Many women complain that all men want is sex. Well , men are hard wired to seek out sex at all times sonetimes going to extre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:41 AM
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Are you serious? Do you not thnk many women sell their pussy(not in a money sense) in order to get as much as they possibly can from a guy?! Do you not think women use sex (their pussy) as a way to get what they want from men? I've had women full out admit to me they do and I don't blame them. You have to take what attributes you have and work with them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:33 AM
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So what? many women manipulate men into buying things for them and pampering them so why can't men manipulate women to meet their needs? Seems very balanced to me Someone is mad that PUA is as effective as it is 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:31 AM
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Learning how to read and then manipulate women is basically PUA to me. I hate that it works btw lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:28 AM
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PUA still works pretty well. Women have not really adapted to counter or deal with PUA at all from what I've seen.. PUA is much more than just pea cocking though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:27 AM
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Id love to see what most of the women on FDS look like. I get a strong vibe that they look a certain way ☺️ There's a lot of toxicity on these subs. I was on blue pill for a few hours and it's whole purpose was to bash red pill lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:25 AM
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FDS is a swamp full of very bitter, jaded women .. i honestly feel bad for women that are in such a bad place that they feel the need to go there and vent 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 04:20 AM
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Honestly, I'd love to see prostitution legalized everywhere in the country. This way, many men wouldn't have to go through the hassle of getting on tinder, pretending interest just to get laid. I'm willing to bet if prostituion was legalized and thus it's social stigma reduced, it would force many women to step up their game quite a bit. Their main selling point(for most guys) would be much less valuable and they'd have to develop other ways on getting a mans interest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:45 PM
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I think very high % of men just want sex from women .. I'm thinking that perhaps if some of these women were less difficult and more fun to talk to and be around then more men would want more than just sex from women. I'm not saying all men would change but that a decent % of them would. i just can't believe women would waste their own time and energy going out with a guy just for a free meal. Are they poor or just that hungry for a steak dinner?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:41 PM
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Some women on here are acting like men never fix things around the home, take care of the vehicles, clean gutters. They also act like women are at home just working themselves to exhaustion each and every day but this is false. Most women have 2-3 small duties to do each day then spend the rest talking on the phone or on Facebook lol.. If women were so active in a physical sense, we wouldn't be seeing such a spike in obesity. i see a lot of obese women of all ages out there now
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:34 PM
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Hours more labor a day than men? You are only talking about unpaid labor correct? This labor that women are doing consists of what exactly? Vacuuming, dusting and cleaning and what ekse? You are acting like women that are at home are doing hard manual labor all day long and that's just not accurate ..not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:30 PM
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"Men are the ones not really living up to their roles" Most men I know not only work full time jobs but also do quite a bit of raising the kids, fixing things around the home and making sure appliances and cars are still working. Where do you think men are failing at? If a man works 60 hours a week and the woman doesn't, then her duty is to take care of the kids and the home.. It's not the guys duty to come home from work and vacuum and put dishes into the dishwasher . Now if both husband and wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 09:26 PM
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Hmm I don't think any man would be unhappy if a decent quality woman pursued them. Decent quality means -cute or somewhat pretty -not obese -can hold a conversation -is not complaining constantly or obsessing about social media I know guys that would be thrilled if women pursued them and put effort in. Again, it all depends on the woman pursuing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:12 PM
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But are you making effort to get his interest and attention as well? I've noticed some women expect men to put in all the effort to get her yet that same effort is never reciprocated. Many guys are starting to ask themselves "why bother putting effort in for a woman that does little in return?" Women need to ask themselves what they bring to the table in terms of relationships. They seem to expect quite a bit from men while not delivering much. they want men to be circus performers basically and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 04:53 PM
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Depends on who you are comparing men to. Do you want me to tell you about the weaknesses women have and then compare them to the men's issues? Then maybe you could make your own judgement call on who you think is superior or higher functioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:09 AM
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Men are generally very logical and yes, they've pretty much built civilization but they arent Demi gods without weaknesses. Many men need female validation and this is where they fail
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:07 AM
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Although I think the price of those conferences is too high, are the speakers not giving out valuable info? I've listened to quite a few videos from the conference and much of it is pretty solid info. As far as selling soaps and courses, the men are just trying to make money. If I had specific info that I thought could benefit men, I'd probably try to package and sell it as well. So I don't blame these men trying to sell items in place of having to go work at a warehouse somewhere There are many…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 03:04 AM
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Women are complaining about decent looking men approaching them in a nice non creepy way ? Women don't mind being approached as long as the guy approaching doesn't look like a serial killer and is nice and casual and not just spitting corny lines and being vulgar
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:40 PM
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Are you in America? I live in the Midwest and women here are very willing to meet men in any manner whether it's though friends, cold approach, social media or bars etc .. In fact, many women I've talked to hate online dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:38 PM
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Wait, what places have attempted to outlaw cold approach?! I cannot believe this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:34 PM
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Lol PUAs have been arrested for trying to pick women up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:29 PM
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If it's mostly about looks, then how do my below average friends have girlfriends? These are regular joes with OK job and minimal social status. what is their secret? Obviously looks play a big part but I don't think they are as vital as black pill makes them seem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:20 PM
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Black pill is taking over? Who are the most popular black pillers out there? Black pill is too nihilistic for my taste
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:18 PM
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So Rollo got kicked off the convention because he invited a nytimes journalist to come to the event?! Why is that a big deal? I personally don't get the hatred on here for 21 studios convention. Granted I don't know that much about it, only the various videos I've watched of different speakers. It seems like there is lots of good info that comes out if it.. The convention organizer is a very dry personality though. I mean, no energy or enthusiasm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 08:15 PM
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Why do people on here slam 21 studios so much? What's the backstory here?
/r/askTRP22/08/20 08:00 PM
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I admit, that trailer was pretty bad but why is 21 studios so looked down upon? I don't know much about it but have watched quite a few videos from various speakers. It seems most presenters have some good info so not sure why people think they are scamming? What type of lies are they telling the audience? As far as how good most red pillers are at talking to women, I have my doubts as well ..I'm watching the Modern Life Dating channel right now with 7 red pillers on it. 5 of these guys look lik…
/r/askTRP22/08/20 07:58 PM
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Good point, I like Rollo, Cooper and Donovan but I'm very curious as to how good they truly are with women. Rollo is married so it's hard to say but the other red pill guys, I just for some reason don't think they are really all that good with women when it comes to approach, game and getting laid..
/r/askTRP22/08/20 06:17 AM
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Yes, same here. I've never understood how most men had to have sex. They considered getting one night stands as the end all, be all of human existence. To me, I saw them as weak and slaves to an endorphin rush similar to drugs. Most guys have to put in a ton of time and effort in order to get laid often. Then tack in the money they spend to woo these women. Imo, the effort/reward is so lopsided when it comes to sex in favor of effort. Like a famous red piller said, winning the game is about lear…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 06:11 AM
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Hmm while Rollo may paint too positive of a picture of being a forever bachelor, I think being stuck in unhappy marriages like many men is much worse. Forever bachelor might be lonely at times, they don't have to deal with the hassles of a marriage. I mean, no matter what route a man takes, there are good and bad aspects and from Rollos perspective, being a forever bachelor is the smartest route with much less bumps and headaches. You mention the lonely millionaire bachelor. It's impossible to s…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 05:53 AM
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Yeah I don't think Rollo is saying men are doomed to be unhappy if they get married but more the risk of getting burned financially is what he is saying. I cannot imagine being in a serious relationship much less being married with kids. I would not have my solitude nor time to do the things I want. I'm totally confused by men that get married and have kids. I know that having children makes you feel good in ways but all the crap that comes with it wouod completely ruin the good aspects
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 05:39 AM
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It's disturbing the rate at which women are becoming obese. Every time I go out, I notice the very large % of women that are obese. I'm not talking about just a few extra pounds but a good 30-40 over the limit. I'm not sure if women are giving up on looking nice or what but it's scary lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:48 PM
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Cooper and Donovan aren't PUAs though to my knowledge. Cooper mostly gives relationship and life advice. He rarely talks about going out and approaching women Donovan is red pill and I don't see him or Cooper as being "scam artists" at all. What info have they sold you or me that is useless or wrong? Last I heard Rollo was kicked out of the 21 studios conferences. For what I don't know
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:43 PM
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Puas aren't selling a fantasy though. They give some great advice on how to behave around women in order to get laid. Puas aren't giving advice on how to find the best long term partner, they are giving advice on how to approach a woman, game her long enough to get laid. I know a handful of guys that were hopeless before they learned about PUA.. They are now mini studs when it comes to women and getting laid. So to say PUA is not effective is wrong but I get why most women would not want to admi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:34 PM
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Imo if you are a guy past the age of 25 and you are paying $1,000 for some conference on how to pick up women, I think you'd be much better off just focusing on career and hobbies instead of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:27 PM
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Is Jocko married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:20 PM
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Sacrifice your looks? What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:18 PM
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By my mid 30s the idea of spinning plates was borderline nauseating lol .but yeah, these red pill guys act like men should just spin plates forever even when they themselves aren't lol I cannot imagine being a 44 year old man and still spinning plates. It's just so much more work and hassle than it's worth
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:15 PM
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I really don't think these men really think that men in their 40s should be in long term relationships with 22 year old girls. It would be more about casual dating and sex. Any guy in their late 30s that has been around 21 year old girls realizes very fast that the maturity and life experience gaps are way too large to make serious relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 08:13 PM
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"Many 40 + men look very aged. So many men do not taje care of themselves" Have you taken a good look at most 40 year old women? The same could be said for women at that age too though. I see many younger women in their 20s that are already borderline obese so it's not just men who aren't taking good care of themselves .its both sexes but like I've already mentioned, men in their 40s realize they have more to offer than just their attractiveness ..they have more tools in the tool shed so to spea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:57 PM
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Yes but at age 50 and beyond, men still have a much wider selection of partners than a 50 year old woman. Even if a woman is still attractive at 50, guys that are younger than her will flirt and date her but it's going to be for one night stands only. Whereas a 50 year old guy that isn't as attractive but has status and wealth and some personality can land women in their late 30s and 40s..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:53 PM
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Wrong. There are quite a few women in their early 20s that would go for good looking guys in their early 30s. These girls are bored with guys their own age and the maturity level is usually imbalanced. If a 32 year old guy is in good shape and knows how to talk to women, he could easily land hot girls 10 years younger than him And no, women are not always only into older men for the money either. A mature good looking guy can easily win younger women over even without gobs of cash and social sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:44 PM
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Btw Rich Cooper seems to be mostly into giving guys overall life advice, not just dating advice. He rarely talks about going out to pick up women or about spinning plates Many of these red pill guys career is their YouTube channel or seminars. Will this impress women? Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:24 PM
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I'm a fan of Tomassi, Cooper, and Donovan and bulldog mindset but I really am curious how good they are with women. Sure, they are red pill and seem to know female behavior in and out but how many plates are they spinning? Rollo was a rock star but he's married and that in itself confuses me.he claims he doesn't "game" his wife but if he isn't, how does he stay in frame? Donovan has a 36 year old gf it seems and she helps him with his YouTube channel.. He claims red pill yet needs a constant wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 07:18 PM
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Cheating is male nature? Women, according to every study about this subject, cheat more than men. Hyper gamy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:39 AM
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No, men that make a good living already on their own are not going to care about a woman's career trajectory. Guys that are bums might though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:19 AM
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Yes it is an accomplishment for the girl to work through those things but it doesn't turn a guy on. She doesn't look any more attractive to him than she did before. Your second sentence I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:17 AM
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It's comical as two attractive women(both were 5-10 years older than me) I was talking to, they kept showing me pictures of their job and telling me about it. I was puzzled by this as I didn't ask nor did I care where she traveled to for work. She was trying to turn me on I guess or get me more attracted to her but it wasn't working. Yeah, a woman's career or accomplishments mean nothing to guys and can be a negative in some circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:12 AM
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Ehh if you are an attractive childless guy that has good job, dating in your 30s isn't difficult at all .. If you are a 32 year old single mother that works part time, then dating in your 30s would be miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:04 AM
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Those guys in their 20s may hit on you because they want one night stand. I guarantee you they do not want to be in a relationship with a woman 20 years their senior.. Sorry to burst your bubble but those the facts
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:36 AM
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No, it's the other way around..young men don't want to date older women.. Young guys will have sex with older attractive women but that's as far as it goes. Guys want beauty and a hot body and older is not where it's at, I don't care how good of shape the woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:33 AM
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Men age differently than women though and wealth and status can offset a decrease in looks..with women, they have their looks and when those are gone, that's it as guys don't care about their status or career..big difference between men and women here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 12:16 AM
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How many multi millionaires never have to work another day in their life?! Most have such high spending standards that they will never be able to retire comfortably.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 09:07 PM
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Chasing money is ultimately futile and empty. The more money you make, the more you spend ..most people that aim to make tons of money do it to impress others or get laid
/r/askTRP19/08/20 09:04 PM
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By my 30s, the idea of one night stands with women I just met was becoming tedious. Many red pill guys advise men to just keep spinning plates forever it seems. I cannot fucking imagine still putting in the effort of spinning plates in my late 30s and 40s. I guess I may have a different to mindset but getting laid is not the end all, be all of human existence. I'm curious how many plates guys like Rich Cooper and Corey Wayne are spinning.
/r/askTRP19/08/20 09:00 PM
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Bulldog mindset is a scammer in what way? He has some good general info Modern life dating guy is garbage though.. One of his recent videos he was going on and on about how good his game is and how often he gets laid.. Even the other red pillers on his show were sort of in cringe mode when he said these things
/r/ExRedPill19/08/20 08:55 PM
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Good point, I like Rollo but I question his game and ability to get laid. I know he is married and that really has me baffled lol. He said he doesn't "game" his wife so how exactly does he keep her? I'm thinking he puts in a lot more work to keep her than he would ever admit.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/20 08:52 PM
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I noticed his videos don't get near as many views as they used to get..I mean, they get maybe 30% of the hits they used to get so there's something there Or maybe it's red pill stuff is getting tired.. Only so much to talk about
/r/ExRedPill19/08/20 08:48 PM
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Rich Cooper has a lot of great info Rollo is knowledgable but him being red pilled yet married is a head scratcher to me. I don't get it Corey Wayne is a good guy, lots of good info
/r/ExRedPill19/08/20 08:32 PM
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Good call, that sounds very likely..she's definitely a woman scorned and I feel bad for the guy that gets involved with her or any of her friends lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 08:27 PM
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See, you aren't viewing this from a quality mans perspective, neither is TomI. A good quality guy already makes enough money and generally has high status or all that he cares for so what he wants in a woman is beauty, femininity, nice fun personality.. This is it, high class usually means high maintenance so that's actually a big negative in guys minds.. A girl that is educated means very little to most men ..granted, we don't want complete idiots but we don't need much beyond someone that's fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:12 PM
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Exception to the rule. I bet she won't go that way again. I know plenty of women like TomI, they generally will not date black guys . Again, stop projecting yo fantasies
/r/MGTOW208/08/20 04:12 PM
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TomI doesn't date black guys. Stop projecting your fantasies into this situation
/r/MGTOW208/08/20 12:59 AM
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I'm going to assume that TomI didn't break up with Brandon. That or something Brandon was doing forced her to break up with him. TomI is very angry and full of hurt in that video so it strikes me like she was just burned hard by a man..Brandon I'm guessing was sleeping around with other younger hotter girls and TomI found out about it and gave the ring back and was done. TomI expects these super high quality men to pursue her and put in tons of effort to win her attraction but what dies he get i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 11:39 PM
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His video was good as was Entrepreneurs in Cars
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 11:29 PM
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I remember the last woman that made sure to tell me she was strong and independent multiple times. One night she called me in hysterics crying because she blew a fuse and didn't know what to do. Lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 11:18 PM
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No, she really doesn't want a slave though. Women think they want a man that does everything for her but in reality, a guy like that is a huge turn off for her. Women are trying to be something they aren't and it's going to keep them unhappy for a very long time
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:24 PM
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Yeah I have a couple nephews that I don't even know what to recommend them anymore in terms of women. Both are smart, have decent jobs but only average looking. I honestly tell them to just put effort into their hobbies and stay away from serious relationships. For men, serious relationships are just way too much work for very little payoff
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:19 PM
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Yep, even with all those great qualities this guy has, I bet many women would say he is "boring" or that he isn't charismatic or some excuse. Women these days expect guys to tick all the boxes and keep them entertained 24/7
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:16 PM
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That's the main problem I have is women want all these things from a man yet what do they provide in return? A cute face? Occasional sex ? Umm is that it? It's so lopsided in terms of effort/reward for men that I don't get why they even bother. That is unless they are sex addicts
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:14 PM
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Yes she deserves more while the guy that is dating her is getting what in return? A migraine headache? That's what these women don't understand, they want men to spoil them and put tons of effort in to date them and keep them happy but they don't give anything in return. I mean, why would men bother?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:09 PM
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Ehh she really doesn't come across like she just dumped someone. She is filled with anger and hurt so most likely, he was the one that dumped her. That or he was fucking a couple younger hotties and she found out and broke up with him. I mean, who in their right mind would want to be around her? She's pretty but that gets canceled out by her crap attitude and narcissism
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:06 PM
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Many women's standards are way too high. I've seen overweight women with kids expect to land a nice looking, fit successful bachelor. TomI is pretty but her personality is awful. What does she bring to the table for a guy? Her looks but what ekse? A successful guy doesn't care about her money or career.. There's many younger hotter women out there that are bartenders that are much more enjoyable To be around than her. TomI has been lied to, she and her friends are nothing special
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 06:44 PM
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Good post and I have to admit I don't even know what women like TomI want from men. What do they actually want from men? Are they expecting perfection? Do they expect a high quality guy to just drop everything and put all his energy and effort into her? Many women's expectations are just so out of line with reality so they are destined to be unhappy
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:29 PM
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Yeah subtle racism is fine today as long as it's against whitey. It's troubling that his post got 27 vote ups .
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:22 PM
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Women like her still can't seem to grasp that money and a nice job mean nothing to men. We want an attractive, feminine, and fun to be around girl. Her bachelors degree or successful flower shop business means nothing to us
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:17 PM
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She comes off as terrible here. Her and her friends aren't smart enough to realize that if every single relationship they get into fails then it's not the men's fault, it's their own fault! They are setting expectations way too high or something ekse ..like most women though, they see no fault in their own behavior so they will keep repeating the same errors over abd over
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:15 PM
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True and women think it's their "standards" that makes men see them as "difficult"..umm no, it's not their standards but their bitchy entitled personality.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:11 PM
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Exactly, women have no self awareness these days. They don't realize how much they nag and complain and depend on men to boost them up. Then they expect men to put in all the effort to date them 😂😂😂 the last few single women I've talked to, I literally ran away from as I could feel their toxicity
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:09 PM
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She expects a high quality man to chase her abd put effort into dating her but why?! Seriously, why is she entitled? Why would any good quality man chase her when there are plenty of younger, hotter, spunkier girls out there that are much less effort? Tomi believes she is special but she is not..she's cute but her personality ruins that
/r/MensRights07/08/20 06:07 PM
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Honestly, I've never understood needing friends with to meet women. I actually much prefer meeting girls by myself
/r/seduction04/08/20 04:40 AM
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I know a girl right around your age that told me the same thing.. She has never been approached in public by guys. She is tall for a girl but she is cute and has a nice body. She is introverted though and a bit "stiff".. She rarely looks like she's happy or comfortable so I'm thinking guys see her as being very closed off Are you introverted? Introverts can sometimes give off a very "stay away from me" vibe. It's in their body language and how they carry themselves, hard to explain .. Are you gi…
/r/seduction21/07/20 05:18 AM
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I agree, I've seen other guys point out that guys with aspergers and bringing it up is pointless and that it only limits what you can do in pick up. Before I even knew what autism was, I tried to be the social and outgoing guy but I noticed very quickly how absolutely draining it was. I'd go out on Friday night for 3-4 hours and then literally would need at least 2-3 days of no social contact in order to recharge.. Back then, I didn't know what was wrong with me and why my friends and other guys…
/r/seduction02/07/20 08:32 PM
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I'm in a very similar situation as you OP.. I'm semi aspergers and schizoid with high degree of introversion ..this basically means I don't like socializing very much, have low low social battery, low motivation and I simply don't feel as strongly as others in terms of empathy, love, devotion etc etc Not to brag but I consider myself to be a good looking guy..I've had girls, some that were pretty hot, approach me in bars and such and many have said I look like Matt Damon or Mark Wahlberg.. I sta…
/r/seduction02/07/20 08:16 PM
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Thx will do!
/r/seduction02/07/20 07:43 PM
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Huh? I have very good social skills and ability to 'mask' but the toll this all tajes on someone like me is beyond taxing.. One night going out for a few hours leaves me drained for days and this is biology, hence the limitations of aspergers Btw if someone with aspergers truly does not recognize their own limitations, then they are in for a brutal reality check down the road.. If an autistic guy thinks he can go out and do game and get laid and have a thriving social life like any normal extrov…
/r/seduction02/07/20 07:27 PM
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Yeah I don't either as I know the limitations of aspergers and most simply are not able to behave in that way .. Owen may have been socially stunted when he was younger but that doesn't mean he was autistic
/r/seduction02/07/20 07:21 PM
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I've tried but they are often quiet or don't got in terms of attraction. Introverted women are hard to find for introverted men and vice versa
/r/seduction01/07/20 07:41 PM
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Better off going to a bookstore and asking the woman a question on the book she's reading or overall genre she is in..that or do you have a dog? Take it to the dog park as there are akways friendly women there with their dogs..the dog is a fantastic ice breaker for the both of you.. Just cold approaching in a mall is weird but if you insist, you can see something the girl has on or maybe tattoos she has or streaks in her hair and ask about that
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:57 AM
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I've read so much that girls like 6 ft and taller men but I've never had a woman ever bring up that I was too short..I'm 5'10 and borderline aspergers but I learned social skills and I stay in good shape physically..my social status is non existent but I do have an air of mystery about me Social skills can be learned and plenty of women would be fine with a guy that's 5'9
/r/seduction01/07/20 04:46 AM
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Whoa you are constantly trying to "win" with women? Do you mean in intellectual debates or? I've never felt that need to be competitive with women as I'm generally competing against men
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/20 11:36 PM
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I bet many of those same men do not like being questioned or corrected by other men either though.lits not a gender thing but more an ego thing in many cases.
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/20 11:30 PM
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That isn't necessarily correct, men have no issue with being corrected if they truly respect you and your knowledge..it depends on the context quite a bit..it needs to go both ways though..if a woman can share her intellect and ideas to a man and the man take it all in without issue, the woman also needs to be able to listen to a man share his honest thoughts and knowledge as well..many women are so emotional though that men simply are forced to lie or just be quiet in many situations ..
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/20 11:29 PM
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Haha I can imagine but I just wish women knew how exhausting it is to keep reassuring them! Soo many situations come to mind sand it really makes me think twice about wanting to date again..a few examples "Yes, you look fine, just wear that" ..."no, you look great, you aren't even close to being out of shape!".."it's ok, your mom is being mean to you but I think you are right". "No babe, it's not the end of the world that your best friend hasnt returned your text for the past hour"...
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/20 11:24 PM
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I know it's quarantine but You need to get busier..do something, write, read, draw or walk your dog. Something that doesn't involve thinking or talking to this girl.. You are already letting this girl fester in your mind.. Imo you need to get to the headspace where you almost don't even care if she responds to your texts as you have "enough" going on anyways..
/r/seduction06/04/20 03:43 AM
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Great write up but in all honesty, reading it just makes me want to check out of the dating game.. Sooo many rules to follow, things to do and what not to do.. It literally strikes me as a second full time job just to attract a girl and keep her interest
/r/seduction06/04/20 03:37 AM
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No, women do not need to be aroused emotionally.. I've seen girls get so turned on by some men that no words need to be spoken between the two.. Good lord man, looks are very important to women! Are you saying they arent?
/r/seduction06/04/20 03:09 AM
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I've always disliked the idea of buying women a drink.. It always signaled a sense of weakness in my eyes
/r/seduction06/04/20 03:04 AM
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A lot of these same traits that are huge negatives in men are just as common and bad in women ..boring conversationalists, self absorbed, emotionally clingy and needy etc etc
/r/seduction06/04/20 02:51 AM
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I really don't know how you guys live with such moody women..I just couldn't do it
/r/MarriedRedPill20/08/19 02:33 AM
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Find hobbies that you look forward to and that help you feel more fulfilled..that's about all I got
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 04:09 AM
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It would be very I teresting if 'likes' were removed from Facebook ad Instagram..what would happen then? Would girls start to do other things like go outside for a bike ride or something?
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:58 AM
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I do believe there are women out there that truly love men as well, it's just a small number in comprising to men..there are some evil, good girl out there but rare
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:38 AM
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I personally can't fathom how any woman could marry a guy they don't really love or find attractive only to get his money down the road..I'm not saying men are perfect but fling something like that is not even in My DNA..
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:36 AM
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"Boring as hell" Lol this is so accurate..I'm in my late 30s and I am still baffled as to how many middle aged women don't know how to hold a 'back and forth' conversation..soo many women literally seem to have no interests aside from shopping..wtf
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:23 AM
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I can somewhat relate to seeing a hit girl and want to have sex with her but beyond that, not much desire to be with a woman..you honestly have a desire to take care and spoil a woman with love and material things?
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:17 AM
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And width of the mans wallet or cash roll 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:39 PM
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Move to America, girls are much more accepting of mixed race
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:39 PM
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I do find it disturbing how many overweight women seem to still value themselves just as high as normal weight, attractive women..especially on dating apps, overweight girls seem to be way too picky for their own good lol...they are 50 pounds overweight, very average face and they have 2 kids yet they want an attractive fit man with good job and no kids hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:38 PM
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I live in the Midwest and it's the opposite ..I see too many obese older women and quite a few younger women that are on their way..it's really alarming tbh but hard to say what the main cause I'd..I think people are just getting too lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:32 PM
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OH yeah, men get body shamed to death by their peers, both men and women but men are supposed to grin, be tough and take it..if a man was to make fun of a woman getting fatter, she would have a fit and call him out on it..it's ridiculous really
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:29 PM
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Haha I agree..as a guy I'm dieting but I must also keep protein high and work out to keep musclee and strength up! It's not just about losing weight to get thinner and that's all most women need to do! Losing weight on its own is pretty easy despite what most think but losing fat while maintaining or building music,e is fucking difficult! Oh and I'll never look like Hemsworth no matter the diet or chef on board..I'm just not genetically gifted to that degree and most men aren't..he's symmetrical…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:19 PM
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True but I still find many women becoming complacent with being overweight yet still think they are just as attractive or worthy to men! This kills me to see and hear and it's rampant especially on dating apps..granted, some horny men might dial back their expectations and go for these women but I never could lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:15 PM
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I don't know but I have to be honest..it's quite alarming how many women I'm noticing to be overweight to an unhealthy degree..to be fair, men might be getting fat too but I'm not looking at them so I can't comment 😂😂. But yeah, I see too many older and younger women losing the war on obesity..what's the cause though? Are they giving up? Is technology making them lazy? Something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:08 PM
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Why don't these super wealthy men sign prenups?! So many get burned hard like this yet they font learn
/r/TheRedPill11/01/19 06:02 PM
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You think most guys don't know how to talk to women? I've really never thought much about it..
/r/MGTOW23/06/18 07:09 PM
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Anti-social or asocial? Big difference
/r/MGTOW23/06/18 03:39 PM
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What kind if guys do you hang out with? Seriously, any decent looking guy who knows how to talk can get plenty of opportunities to cheat..it isn't only the Fabios that get the chance
/r/MGTOW23/06/18 03:31 PM
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Good article, id just love to see 2 friends or better yet, a group of 10 different looking guys start learning Pua..half of them below average and the other half above average..of course with similar income level.. Im not familiar with the different Pua artists but are there fat, balding Pua artists? Connor Murphy with 3-4 months of Pua training? He would slay
/r/TheRedPill13/03/17 05:53 AM
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I have read in many articles that he pays them nice money to come party with him..many are escorts after all i believe..
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 03:53 AM
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Oh yes, he is awkward with girls..girls will see the nice body and face but when it comes with the somewhat shaky beta nice guy act, many girls will be turned off..if he were the confident nice guy it would be much different..he is young though, lots of time to improve and he is doing exactly what it takes to get better.. i honestly see a certain group of girls taking joy in shit testing the hell out of him and he would look like an ass in response..ugh
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 03:52 AM
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So many women seem to just stop caring after they get married..I've seen many attractive girls gain 50-100 pounds and then wonder why their husband isn't so into them anymore..ugh
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:42 AM
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He gets over a million hits for hid vids though! Kicker is every single video he puts out is the same damn thing, him finding a reason to take his shirt off so many people like his videos..what he does is very cringe though..I feel awkward watching them lol
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:36 AM
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Hmm I can tell Connor is not socially adept, he strikes me insecure and lacking humor..he is good looking enough to win many women over though so Id like to know where he fails with women..I imagine he ends up boring them to death on dates because he probably spends the entire time talking about his workouts lol..
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:34 AM
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His vids are very cringe indeed..he is a smart guy but every single video borders on him taking his shirt off to impress girls..the video where they ask girls if they would rather date Connor or another youtube star, then After they answer Connor comes out posing his routine..omg that is so cringe that I almost feel bad for the guy until I realize how much money he makes frim these vids lol
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:28 AM
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Lol I also noticed how beta Connor is..his videos are very awkward and all are based on him taking his shirt off..most women like his body obviously and dude is handsome but his personality will turn many women off..if he worked on that he would be unstoppable though..I have worked out for many years but would never look as lean and cut as Connor
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:24 AM
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Hmm I am curious if a somewhat below average fat guy learned game, how well would he do? What numbers would he pull compared to in shape men with game providing they all have similar social status and wealth.. Throughout my life I can't remember any overweight guys being really good with the ladies..even the witty, popular fat guys had to really step it up to get women interested
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:21 AM
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Looks absolutely do matter..im a good looking guy but very introverted..I can get womens attention rather easily whereas my average or below average friends need to put in a ton of social work to even get a number..my introversion holds me back and Im in awe of good looking extroverted guys lol..they make it look easy
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:18 AM
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Maybe they don't want to live like DB?!?if I was a multi millionaire like him I would honestly not be paying groups of women to come hang out with me on my boat..sure I might have done this for a few years in my 20s but it would have gotten very old fast..doing it into my mid 30s I'd just feel almost sad tbh..the thought of paying women to hang out with me is cringe If this makes DB happy though im fine with it, too each his own
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 02:06 AM
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Exactly, he pays women to hang out with them..what is so cool about that? If I had his money I'd be sort of ashamed to have to pay women big money to come on my boat lol..since he has social status, good looks and money, shouldn't these be enough to get all the women he wants without paying them?!?this makes me think his natural game is not so good
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 01:57 AM
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Exactly with $100m even short, bald guys with no game could achieve exactly what this guy has..I don't see the fascination tbh
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 01:53 AM
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But he paid for all of that attention! That's the part about him that makes me cringe a little..I would not like the feeling of having to pay women to be with me and then taking pics of us together and acting like its some badge of coolness.. Props to him if it makes him happy
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 01:52 AM
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Hmm I don't think Bilzerian is all that to me..he used to be a dork growing up but since he came into money and has some social status due his wealth and poker, now he is a stud.. He pays most of these women to hang out with him correct? That is pretty sad to me tbh..I assume he always gets laid after these paid weekends together?he seems to love the attention he gets from paying a group of porn stars to be on his boat with him..that to me is beta as he is trying too hard to impress someone out …
/r/TheRedPill11/03/17 01:49 AM
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So men are very attracted to you and intimdated..you act as if most guys are nervous around you but I find this a little odd..you don't even mention men using you for sex in your post so you need to clarify what you are asking as this seems like a troll post imo
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/17 07:02 AM
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Omg don't be so sensitive..AMOG?
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 07:50 PM
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I bet she's a real hottie too!
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 06:53 PM
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It really is..I cannot imagine what would prompt a boy to do this..it might get him a few pity dates from 3-4s but that's it
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 06:46 PM
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Wait so I assume it is more difficult for you to get laid then? It would make sense then when said the juice isn't worth the squeeze..even when I put low effort and still get laid im like meh
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 06:30 AM
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It does in fact..IRL i get much better results compared to online..
/r/seduction17/02/17 06:27 AM
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What was Nietzsches answer for the void?
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 05:13 AM
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Oh yes you can get decent looking women being the way you are.. Lol honestly online dating is brutal for guys..women are so entitled online, you have 4s that think they are 8s.. Girls are horny but you can't act too thirsty around them..they can sense desperation and its a huge turn off
/r/seduction17/02/17 05:07 AM
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True and Meeks could have some cognitive problems that make his life much harder in ways than Ops..life isn't close to being balanced but oh well
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:12 AM
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When it comes to getting pussy, good looking guys do have it made..it's just so many guys think happiness completely revolves around getting pussy so they think being good looking will get them pussy thus leading to everlasting happiness..lol these guys need to realize having sex regularly causes as many issues ss it solves..
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:10 AM
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This, im very fortunate to be attractive to quite a few women..this had allowed me to not have to run game that strong..if I hd to focus on career and perfect my game to get women instead of relying on looks, well I would one frustrated guy right now. Lol
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 04:04 AM
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I hear what you are saying but you just need to develop other areas..career, status, muscles, personality to make up for lack of facial aesthetics..
/r/TheRedPill17/02/17 03:54 AM
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His name? :)
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 12:54 AM
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Exactly,im don't want to have to talk down to the woman im with, neg her etc etc..it gets very tedious very fast for me
/r/TheRedPill16/02/17 11:30 PM
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I feel a void too..I have hobbies I enjoy but there is a void I can't seem to fill
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 11:12 PM
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All women are extremely self absorbed..doesn't matter the age, this makes them painful to talk to
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 11:08 PM
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I've been more or less Mgtow even before I heard of the term..I've never chased women or pursued sex..I was lucky to get one night stands without much effort but all in all, messing with women just isn't worth the effort..my low sex drive helps me big time though
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 11:05 PM
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Own your hobbies, don't be ashamed of them..that's a beta move..
/r/seduction16/02/17 10:42 PM
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Barnes & Noble, dog parks are excellent places to go..the dogs are a great ice breaker..
/r/seduction16/02/17 05:59 AM
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Not average looking and socially awkward no, these guys won't be with attractive women unless they have high social status or great careers but generally these guys won't be successful to that degree.. So you need to work on the social awkwardness because plenty of average looking guys are with attractive women
/r/seduction16/02/17 05:56 AM
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Omg. And it's very difficult to get and hold a woman's attention for that long online..usually they don't respond or use 1-2 word replies and just fade out..online dating was awful for me and I get prety good real life results but online I was invisible
/r/seduction16/02/17 05:50 AM
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Ha ha you are correct..I've seen a few guys try to mess with women's heads and play with her that way but they were low level guys..these guys both do what you mentioned, they just wade through the hordes of rejections just to get lucky that one night..that's what they live for it seems..I see the effort though, oh my lol..that effort could be focused on something else..plus, the Time they spend is cringe worthy..
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 03:51 AM
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Oh trust me, I don't put much effort i to getting laid..im pretty lazy in this area but even then I see it as too much effort..again, this is why I cant comprehend how guys who look bad do it.. Luckily my introversion can help me look mysterious to certain women lol..with others, it so ply doesn't work, not compatible..literally im lucky if I want to go out socially once a week.. Your third paragraph summed it up perfectly I think..I have to become a more socially interested person to do well wi…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 03:30 AM
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Ahh just read your last 2 paragraphs again..that's exactly what I was wanting to know, it was hard to ask though lol..I just see my buddies who are out of shape and below average face and can't fathom the amount of effort they put into getting laid..I've seen some of what they do and it makes me cringe..they have helped women move for free, helped paint their rooms, bought them things, been a shoulder to cry on whenever necessary..thats the thing, will them doing ghese things for women get them …
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 12:35 AM
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I guess with me is what knocks me back a few notches is my introversion and reclusive nature..luckily, my looks, muscular frame and the fact that I can be charismatic when I want to be helps win many women over.. 4-5 months ago I got into Internet dating and was close to starting to go further metro but i dimply couldn't bring myself to do it..lol..I realized that it's just too much work to get laid..this is what the purpose of this thread is..examining the effort some guys have to put in to get…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/17 12:30 AM
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I can get laid quite often..it's comical that women think im a player because im socially adept yeah never chase or Pursue..I just looked around at other guys when I was out the other night and I couldn't imagine what these guys had to do to get women and keep them..
/r/TheRedPill31/01/17 07:08 AM
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Lol I prkobably worded it wrong but I know what I meant to ask!
/r/TheRedPill31/01/17 05:38 AM
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Lol who wants to play these silly games all the time just for pussy..I have pretty much opted out of the game
/r/TheRedPill12/01/17 11:45 PM
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i agree, this is a lame myth..i know quite a few alphas that were cheated on by a few women..too many variables to to be able to put a reason to this..i think women get bored as hell to, that alpha guy they met 3 years ago that was fun and taking them everywhere, well now he just had back surgery and isnt as fun anymore..girl gets bored and moves on
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 06:38 AM
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i was a heroin addict with no job and maybe 411 to my name yet i stll attracted a few hotties even towards the worst stage of my addictin..i dont remember what i did but honestly think ive been blessed with above average looks and good personality..
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 06:35 AM
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thts my thoughts exactly, these atractive or cute women who expect men to really work to get them interested in a relationship are not that self aware or intelligent imo..these women need to realize many men are not willing to put up or 'put much work' into landaing a girl who is tired, has chronic back pain, and typical single mother complaints just to get laid twice week or to be seen by everyone that he has a fine gf..that is old school thinking imo and im trying to send hints to this girl th…
/r/TheRedPill16/09/16 06:33 AM
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i thought okcupid was going to be an interesting/fun experience where you meeting a wide variety if women..i didnt expect it all to be positive but i remember right at first i noticed the women were so jaded and damaged..i was like wtf, then other were very interested then vanished, but many just seem to want the guy to do everythig, push the entire conversation etc etc.. im talking to a very hot 34 puerto rican woman, she has 1 kid and we are justing talking like friends do..she doesnt trust me…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/16 06:51 PM
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fair point but at least id expect both people to embellish their personalities a little bit, say more, laugh more, you have to APPEAL to the guy or woman to want them to see you again, right?maybe some of these women feel so entitled that guys will accept them for whoever they are or have been on so many failed first dates that dont see the point to 'act' a little anymore..i dont know.. the same thing is happening with the latest woman i met..boredom is starting in and im trying to stop it...aga…
/r/TheRedPill11/09/16 09:18 PM
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thats true in a few cases but many end up wanting to fuck me so well there ya go
/r/TheRedPill05/09/16 04:36 AM
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yeah thats insane..dude is a sex addict but seems to be able to satiate his addiction for the most part..plus, i imagine most of the girl he fucks are below average..
/r/TheRedPill04/09/16 04:25 PM
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ehh depending on what you look and if u can carry a conversation you could still slay some pussy but its not going to be that rewarding at your age as compared to late teens or early 20s..at our age man, meeting women is a headache..they all have children and drama with their exes..ugghh
/r/TheRedPill04/09/16 07:31 AM
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i agree bigred..i can see if a guy tried different things and wasnt successful, then his confidence will remain quite low even though it might have rose a litle higher had he hot attempted those things..still though, he wont be a confidant guy imo.. confidence is very strange imo...i dont understand it either tbh..i grew up better at sports than most of peers, i was the best pitcher on the team and top 3 hitter yet truly didnt believe it.well, i guess this didnt build my overall confidence like …
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:51 PM
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i hear you, ive been given compliments but i think its all part of a sinister plot of some sort..i just dont trust what women have to say 90% of the time unless its about the store that currently has the lowest prices on something..
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:35 PM
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i did try the 'awkward' silence thing once with a girl..she didnt exactly start into a fun conversation but instead asked f i wanted to smoke some weed..lol..
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:04 PM
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looks/physicality gets me to message them but personality decides whether i stay interested..
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:03 PM
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good lord buddy, i can lead conversations all day long..i have pretty good social skills but if 90% of our conversations i have to constantly lead and keep it interesting, then im out of there..i would love if a woman had something interesting to bring up and talk about occasionally but it never happens!
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 09:02 PM
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again if they have such litle interest why bother messaging me first on many days?why respond at all?why agree to dates if they really arent interested?i could have fucked a decent number of okc girls i talked to but i lost interest before the first date..its that bad at times.. now im talking to a pretty nice, attractive woman and we will meet soon..our conversations are just one sided though..if i didnt carry 80% of the conversation, bring up interesting thoughts or ideas, then we would just n…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 08:59 PM
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i can just imagine..its a shit show and us men have to somehow compete and stand above the rest of the guys to get the womans attention in the first place but keep their jinterest afterwards while they have dudes bombarding them with pms.. i
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 08:57 PM
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lol at paying $10k on any womans company for a night..doesnt matter how great the sex or her body is, that is downright the same as being raped.. you absolutely CAN own women!i have had 2 women in my get so atached to me that they could bare be away from me for longer than 2 days..
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 10:32 AM
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humor is important as is confidence..women on okcupid are not hard to fuck..well id guestimate at least 30% are relatively easy to fuck without trying too hard..again im not looking for only sex but a goood relationship..a woman i just enjoy being around, talking to etc etc..this type of woman is so hard to find..ugghh
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 10:03 AM
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i dont even know what vapid means tbh..i assue it means they are vicious, lying, deceitful creatures?or maybe ik way off here lol..its late so forgive me.. there are nice women out there but hard to find and whats worse is the nicer they are the less interesting they seem to be..lol..the last 2 women i met that struck me as as being truly nice, caring people also ended up boring me to death in many ways..sad but true although i wish it wasnt
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 08:53 AM
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i completely understand what you meant..i agree, i can come across as simple, strange or just not that educated..ill try to improve my grammar and see if that helps..it couldnt hurt me at all, right?part of who i am is being strange and doing things the way i want to do them..some women love this but i gues the more intelligent ones are turned off completely.. i appreciate the grammar tips, ill need to improve this area but as you can tell, ill almost need to take a crash course to relearn this.…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 08:48 AM
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ill say it once more my friends, i dont care about simply fucking these women!im not a 22 year old guy that hasnt been laid since his sophomore year in high school..im a a guy in his mid 30s, good job and admit i am above average in looks that wants a fun/interesting woman to share my life with..i can get laid quite easily but that doesnt matter to me atm..in fact i often turnd down sex so im definitely NOT a typical red pill sex obsessed guy..i do hope you guys will continue to allow me to post…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 05:46 AM
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which demographic should i go after next?ive tried local club women, the women that hang out at barnes and nobles, okcupid women..where do i go next? lol i dont daygame depressed baristas ever..again im no PUA guy, i dont run game on women, i dont care about only getting them naked and horny..i want much more than that
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 05:42 AM
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so ONLy online girls are boring in your opinion?i get what you are saying in that only the needy and desperate go to okcupid to find a date but im not sure this is true...im not desperate or needy and i can run game and meet women locally but with onlne dating, i saw potential to meet many more women in an hour than i would in 2-3 weks of going out..this is what made me give this a shot and so far, very disappointed lol.. it works great for some though, many factors at play imo btw the woman im …
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 05:39 AM
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please forgive me for not using proper grammar..i admit i graduated high school and no college but still landed a pretty good job..im in better shape than most men my age and again, i just asked question to see if others had same experience..seems very many do so its not the fault of me not knowing where to put a semicolon! well quite a few women appreciate my strange nature, how i word things and seem to not give a shit about me not knowing when to use capital letters..just relax mate, i know w…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 05:32 AM
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i dont even care about talking deep to anyone, just a casual fun back and forth conversation is ALL i ask but i cant even get that! a nice woman mesaged me tonight, asked me how i am, i answered and followed up with a question..she answered and then i mentioned a movie coming out this weekend..she said it sounds fun and now she isnt saying much at all..she is ending me texts, pictures of memes or whatever and im like ugghh..i mean, i like this woman but she is already losing me here..shes a sing…
/r/TheRedPill03/09/16 01:31 AM
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i think that is the case..guys were so fucking horny and would coddle them and let them get away with not doing anything, they just got used to it..i mean, maybe i should direct fault at the many men before us that put these women on pedestals..thats wasted energy though as the damage has been done unless TRP and MGTOW movement really grows in numbers and forces women to change..lol..its possible right?maybe?
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 09:12 PM
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right now im mostly aiming for 6-7s..ive talked to a few 8s and they struck me as crazy and just too out there, not really boring.. im no picky, id gladly date a hippy chick if they are cute and fun and somewhat interesting!
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 09:08 PM
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i agree, i try to ask women about their hobbies or what they enjoy doing and many almost dont have an answer..many just basically say 'oh i dont know, i like relaxing' lol..im like, who doesnt like to relax?very rare do they mention any hobbies they have, they dont seem to play sports, watch movies, have tried any new activities in the past few years.. oh yes, if a woman has passion or energy about a hobby or even a tv show, thats a huge plus in my book..i can feed off of that and it can lead so…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 09:04 PM
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sad but true and it looks like im going to slowly bow out of this dating nonsense..just focus on hobbies, work and if an interesting lady comes into play, just see what happens
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 09:00 PM
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lol very true..ive started to say wild shit out of the blue and this seems to work on a small % of them..i find that i have to somewhat keep this wild attitude up or they revert back to their normal personality.. i did tell a few that they were boring and they even admitted it!only 1 seemed to take offense but the others just owned it..damn did that instantly kill any shred of desire i have left for them.. like has already been mentioned, women CAN be boring as they will have johhny desperation …
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:58 PM
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ok id love to see the women you pull with these amazing tips you gave me..i can get laid dude, im beyond that, im not 22 years old anymore..im not going to border every conversation on sex or teasing...please man, think about it.. again you seem to only want sex and if so, great but i want more..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:43 PM
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lol it is true i admit..every time i talk to a woman i ask myself if they didnt have a pussy would i be talking to them at all..such a stupid question as it usually kills all interest on the spot lol..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:40 PM
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EXACTLY, i hear guys telling me to just lie and game these women to fuck them and i cringe as i hope they are young, late teens or early 20s..that type of attitude and action got boring fast for me and i need something more these days..if i have to expect to go out or even talk go women on okcupid, play certain mind games that entice them into dropping their clothes that night, count me out..im too old for that shit, it just doesnt appeal at all.. lol im confused as to what this subreddit really…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:38 PM
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i need large amounts of stimulation or pleasure to be able to feel content or enjoyment thus i was wondering if maybe it wasnt womens dull conversations that was at fault..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:32 PM
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you must really be good at maintaining healthy relationships in your life..lol..you probably look for the easy trashy women in the corner of the bar and sling your wicked game, take her home and fuck her and then think you are a king! am i right? i meet women everywhere i go, work, shopping, festivals so this isnt just an okcupid problem..its just im obviously able to talk to a large number of women through okc thus leading me to ask this question
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:30 PM
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please, i dont expect a woman to endlesly pursue me..where did i mention that?perhaps someone else did, i dont know..i dont want to be pursued, i do want a woman to be able to answer questions, show some personality and wit..trust me, i have come from all angles in conversations and sometimes it works but often the women just resort back to their boring nature..i dont have the energy or time to really deal with this type of thing anymore.. lol i honestly dont remember one man on here saying anyt…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:25 PM
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ive been through a few very similar experiences..ill talk to a woman, stree the conversation, ask her out, it goes ok, she seems interested but theres just nothing there..her texts are short and she seems to either not be interested or she has absolutely nothing to talk about..then when i pulled back and stopped texting she claims im avoiding her..lol i was but i didnt tell her she bored the hell out of me.. im talking to a few women but none of them really seem interestng at all to me..its pret…
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:20 PM
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where can i find the interesting winners at!?!
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:14 PM
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women i met in real life are the same way..all throughout the years they have showed same conversational skills..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:10 PM
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same experience here, i work with two girls in their early 20s, very cute and nice bodies but i havent heard them say anything interesting or funny in months!they come in and talk about being tired or not being able to find their car keys and im just like falling asleep..i have lost all interest in talking to them further but of course most of my friendss still chase them..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:09 PM
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well honestly what can they give a man beyond stress and sex?thats just the way i view them now..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:06 PM
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women are terrible listeners yet expect us to remember every detail of what they told us 3 months ago..lol
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:04 PM
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ive heard that plenty of times and it makes perfect sense but i might as well completely rule out dating or anything more serious than a ONS then..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:03 PM
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same here, ive had a few oportunities to get laid but these women had me so completely lost and disinterested by that point tat i dreaded meeting her, saying hi and whatever else it took to fuck her..it just wasnt worth it at all to me.. whats beyond insane is some of these women ttell me they dont understand why they cant keep men interested..lol again they tend to have very low self awareness..they have no idea how they come across and present themselves to men..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 08:00 PM
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again i am not expecting dep conversations here..im talking about a conversation where both parties seem interested and able to give meaningful responses and occasionally inject some humor here and there.. i mean these women i have talked to, i cannot imagine coming home from work and talking to them about their day or taking them out to dinner and having a conversation..it would be torture to me..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 07:49 PM
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i agree, i listen to women vent about their problems but do they listen to my gripes/lol not hardly and if i didnt bring it up they sure wouldnt ask..they just dont even seem to care about anything but talking about their own problems over and over
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 07:38 AM
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a few buddies told me tinder is the same..women dont say much and expect you to do all of the talking and they give 1-2 word answers..i just dont even understand this behavior at all tbh..why even talk to a guy if you are just going to be so non responsive and almost apathetic about the conversation?are these women that bored or are they talking to 20 different men at once?i do not know.. okcupid women are dreadful at carrying conversations..
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 07:33 AM
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lol yes u know its bad when even after a ONS you cannot to get away from the woman..the last ONS i had i spent 3-4 hours hanging out with her just talking..uggh it was dreadful and by the time she wanted sex i was honestly not interested anymore
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 07:27 AM
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i assume you only want women for one night stands then?if not, then how do you stand their presence? honestly i dont even care much about that anymore..in my early 20s i did but now, nah..im late 30s so things change yet after trying to date them again, i realized i will be better off single the rest of my life
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 07:25 AM
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stressful IF you click with them?hmm explain? even the women i do get along with are just boring and dont seem to have any actual hobbies.its to the point where i dread talking to them..i run out of things to say very quickly
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 07:19 AM
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i agree, all women seem to love to travel or go on vacations!wow, how original and when you talk to them, they havent been anywhere in yearsZ!
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 07:17 AM
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yeah my experience is mostly the same..if it isnt sexual in nature then i almost cant be bothered with talking about their work day, shopping trips they have planned etc etc.. so how do most men maintain relationships since most women are so god awful to talk to?is the sex that great?
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 12:46 AM
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lol i didnt go on there looking for mind blowj gconversations, i DID expect to meet women that could carry a conversation..im shocked at women that are in their mid 30s that cant socialize properly
/r/TheRedPill02/09/16 12:45 AM
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my true self is very introverted, im lucky if i WANt to talk to women once a week..this type of personality doesnt sit well with getting women though unless u are very good looking, a rock star or are very wealthy..when i put on my 'super social guy' mask i can land many women but i cant keep them around..
/r/askTRP20/04/16 05:01 PM
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i weigh around 215 and ive been told many times i look like Mark Whlberg so its not looks where i lack, its the social aspect..i know there are women out there that are fun to talk to, its just they generally dont look the part as well..too many men have spoiled the hot women by not demanding that they do more than just sit around and look pretty..
/r/askTRP18/04/16 12:13 AM
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oh boy, please talk to any mental health expert and they will back up what im saying..an extrovert cannot turn into an introvert or vice versa..you dont seem to understand what it means to be introverted as opposed to extroverted, its where you gain energy..mindless chit chat is draining for an introvert whereas for an extrovert it is energizing..you cannot change this o matter what tactics you try..please do some research on this and then come back to this thread..
/r/askTRP18/04/16 12:11 AM
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lol wow you must have taken ofense by my post..why i dont know but trust me, i have no problem with one night stands but youll find as u get older, they mean less and less... you cant change from introverted to extroverted, it doesnt work like that..you can improve social skills though..feel sorry for you, why would i, we all have different paths and objectives..some of you are much too sensitive on reddit, we are all just feeding off of others advice while adding our own..
/r/askTRP17/04/16 10:14 PM
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lol i dont have deep conversations with women, far from it..i do expect women to be able to carry a balanced conversation where you bounce ideas off each other..its basic socal skills..yes, i want my women to take care of themselves, go to the gym..again im not here to entertain a girl or be a circus clown like some of you seem to be.. is that how u plan on keeping a girl is by constantly entertaining her, impressing her this way and that?if so, i feel for ya...you must be more on the extroverte…
/r/askTRP17/04/16 08:02 PM
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absolutely the women i talk to have terrible social skills, dont seem to have any hobbies and this leaves me thinking like wtf..what do they have to offer me besides a pussy?
/r/askTRP17/04/16 07:22 PM
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well then how do you ever plan on being in a LTR?if you want just 8 or 9s that are fun to fuck yet cant cary a conversation, the relationship is going to suck..lol..looks matter to me too but so does personality..an 8 or a 9 that is completely self absorbed, damn she isnt even worth my time..
/r/askTRP17/04/16 06:17 PM
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ok thats the thing though, i should have worded my initial post better..im not trying to just get laid, i want to find a girl that is actually interested in who i am..i dont want a serious relationship or a ONS, i want something in between if you know what i mean?in order to do this, it requires maintenance and many everyday type cponversations..ive found with many women they dont seem to be that interested in who you are, you thoughts on this or that..they just seem to want to be asked question…
/r/askTRP17/04/16 03:54 PM
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no offense but i lift plenty, 6 days a week.my looks arent an issue, i can actually dress down a good deal and still get looks..i can play the game with women and get laid(ONS) but when it comes to getting a girl interested in me, who i am i find it very dificult..most women seem to want you to ask all the questions and they just seem fine to sit back and talk about themselves.. ill check that book out...
/r/askTRP17/04/16 03:49 PM
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yeah and i really cant play that game anymore, when it come to trying to impress them..its just so mind numbingly boring..
/r/askTRP17/04/16 03:45 PM
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haha same here..im good looking in prety good shape..i can meet and talk to women and get them to fuck me but i cant keep them because im a very introverted, boring motherfucker..i cant seem to be able to change this.. everything i do needs to rigid and scheduled as well..im not a fun 'lets just go out and do anything' type guy, never will be.. i have no idea how to be more fun overall..i can act it in short bursts but if a girls around me for long, she will realize how bored and stuck in my hea…
/r/askTRP17/04/16 06:54 AM
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that is strange as when i act like my true introverted self, most girls have very little interest in me yet when i put on the social, charismatic role, many more women seem to want to get to know me better.. beig really introverted and lost in your own thoughts doesnt attract women unles you are a very good looking guy and something else sticks out about you..
/r/askTRP17/04/16 06:42 AM
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Similar problem here..after work and exercise and errands I have very little energy to go out and meet women..it all seems to be too much work for little reward
/r/askTRP12/04/16 06:47 AM
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yeah that would help..umm what are u talking about?
/r/askTRP09/04/16 05:20 AM
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interesting as most men say the opposite...sure they might bitch about their wife or gf but if they get dumped, they are alone and whining about it..most guys or girls i know just seem to always have to be on the chase or with a mate..it boggles my mind.. i have hobbies but not one strong enough like dirtbikes are for you..most guys i know will sacrifice pussy over friends, family etc etc...
/r/askTRP09/04/16 05:18 AM
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I don't see it as a burden but I do look at the effort/reward ratio..
/r/askTRP08/04/16 09:11 PM
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Exactly what im saying, I own my own home, work and exercise..im not sure how these other guys have the time to play these games with women..lots of time needs to be devoted to meeting, keeping these women around..I'd like to see the every day schedule of most red pullers and see how much time they are devoting to getting laid
/r/askTRP08/04/16 09:08 PM
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Lifting 6 days a week..
/r/askTRP08/04/16 09:04 PM
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I enjoy women in certain circumstances, sex and when we are out at a festival..talking to them on the phone or texting I'd just mind numbing..
/r/askTRP08/04/16 09:04 PM
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Well yes very similar to me..im 37 and I work 50 hours a week, i exercise 6 days a week, and I look at my spare time..not much of it but I try to get out twice a week to meet women, break into social circles..I wish I would have tried this when I was in my 20s..now I'm trying it out, and the social angle seems too time consuming and just not challenging or fun as im mostly doing this for sex..im not sure how any guy could enjoy texting women and running game on them..
/r/askTRP08/04/16 09:02 PM
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That's the difference, you are very extroverted, I am very introverted do this probably factors big time into why I find the social aspect not enjoyable or stimulating..u feed off socializing, I get drained
/r/askTRP08/04/16 03:45 PM
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Damn, if it was a gf I was halfway serious with i wouldn't be cool with her hanging out with old BFs all the time as she would not want me hanging out with my ex gfs..christ, a girl should have gfs to hang out with!something is wrong if she has only ex BFs to hang out with
/r/askTRP08/04/16 03:43 PM
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Ehh I would not bother with a girl who has many male friends.way too many problems there just from the start..I mean, why does a woman have that many guy friends?its strange
/r/askTRP08/04/16 03:36 PM
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That's the hardest part for me, I do not find much enjoyment at all talking to women, much of the time it's a chore tbh..
/r/askTRP08/04/16 03:25 PM
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Good question, I generally come off as cold..it's just my nature.. Uggh just thinking of some of the conversations I've had with me makes me cringe..do many cant hold a conversation unless it's about their personal problems
/r/askTRP08/04/16 03:02 PM
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True, phenibut is much better than alcohol..the actual effects and no calories
/r/askTRP08/04/16 03:00 PM
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It's easy for me to give a good excuse for not drinking but I find it makes the whole bar situation much less enjoyable..im not the type to take a girl out for coffee do
/r/askTRP08/04/16 02:59 PM
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I wish I had a dollar for every time someone asked me this. Lol..yes I have checked them twice in the past year, doctor said they could be considered above average..I mentioned the low sex drive and he just said "some people crave it nonstop, some don't"..
/r/askTRP25/03/16 08:25 PM
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Yeah it's not easy for most guys to just go out and fuck 2-3 other girls, much less 10..
/r/askTRP25/03/16 06:58 PM
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Im like you, in fact im borderline asexual..I never think with my penis, I could and technically should be getting laid very often as im good looking and fun but I just don't have the desire..I see it as a benefit sometimes and a negative at others..like u mention, this society is all about sex and hooking up yet im not, at all..not sure how to escape it besides to just stop watching silly TV shows and pick your friends wisely
/r/askTRP25/03/16 06:51 PM
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Very true..
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 12:03 AM
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Haha never heard of that sub until now...headed over there now..I'll be the first to admit most married people I know are miserable but I am not sure how many single men in their 50s are either so..i dunno
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 08:17 PM
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I can get laid..im usually always talking to a few girls here and there..maybe I'm having a sorta mid life crisis..seriously im not sure
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 06:33 AM
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Oh yes, money is one area I do well in in terms of saving it..lots in the bank and other areas..I see friends that make better money than me but are broke, they spend it all on their gf and kids..uggh, that will never be me I do enjoy my hobbies, all im saying is I do feel that void occasionally but no clue if a woman would fix it or make it bigger. Lol..didn't know if other guys felt this too....?
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 06:21 AM
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I enjoy my own company at times but the main reason I like solitude is im not expending energy talking to people or pretending to care. Lol..at home I can just be myself..I don't feel like I fit into this world though being like this lol..everyone else seems so much more outgoing
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 06:12 AM
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I consider myself to be schizoid but never diagnosed but have most of the symptoms..what did you get over?you got over being schizoid or something else?
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 06:10 AM
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Haha agreed..you really have to dig at my age..like oak island mystery pit deep. Lol..just doesn't seem worth the effort
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 02:07 AM
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I agree, there are great girls out there but very few in number..extremely hard to find.i have found usually if they are a good girl they tend to be boring..just in my experience..
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 01:57 AM
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I can't seem to form emotional bonds with anyone..im like Dexter without the homicidal urges..lol
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 01:55 AM
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Judging from the guys I know, the majority are completely driven by pussy..almost their every waking moment is geared towards getting laid
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 11:30 PM
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Very few men can just walk away though..it not only takes red pill logic but a level of emotional detachment that is hard to teach or train..most men are almost as emotionally needy as women. Lol..
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 11:28 PM
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Yeah that's what I don't understand..dude drops truth on women and marriage, makes both seem dreadful but then goes ahead and gets married..lol..is he a pussy whipped lil boy behind closed doors?
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 11:16 PM
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I agree, these Pua guys are kind of setting themselves up for failure for long term relationships..they give off this fun, exciting, charismatic first impression but no one can maintain that and I wouldn't even try. Lol..then again, Pua is just for fucking girls, one night stands right?
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 11:14 PM
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Yep, online dating and dating in general just feels like way too much work for such small reward..then, say you get lucky and find a good woman, then the real work begins, you have to maintain the relationship, entertain her, keep her interested..ugh
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 06:49 AM
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I've met a few women that had good personalities but I didn't find them sexually attractive..I have yet to find a woman that I'd want to spend my life with. Lol
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 06:38 AM
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Hmm I dunno, if they are that desperate to get laid, then whatever but all the time and games they have to learn and play to get laid is insane..it's like a second job
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 06:36 AM
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Great at getting women to sleep with him but doesn't seem good in being able to keep them interested..that is after all, the hardest part
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 06:34 AM
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I always wondered how these popular Pua guys were able to maintain serious relationships..looks like they aren't that good..after all the fucking women around, he got his comeuppance..
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 06:33 AM
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Yeah keep her around but u should definitely find 1-2 other girls and start dating and seeing them..the girls reaction will tell you a lot on how she feels about you..if she is indifferent towards you being with other girls, then it's obvious she has no strong feelings for you
/r/seduction02/03/16 04:31 AM
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Hmm I think most if not all experts would disagree with you..an introvert cannot turn into an extrovert or vice versa. There are times when I feed off socializing but it's rare..it just has to be the right combination of factors I think..my work drains me of 90% of my social energy so that's a problem
/r/seduction02/03/16 02:45 AM
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Making my life more exciting is much easier said than done especially when the sole reason you are doing it is to impress women..lol See the way I think is I can get women to sleep with, I can get numbers easily and I think the same way you said women think..I find women terribly boring if all they talk about is work or how much their neck hurts..im not there to show off or entertain them solely, they must do the same in return..I don't play into the notion that men have to put on an act to impr…
/r/seduction02/03/16 02:42 AM
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I think this is true, I find when im socializing it feels like I'm putting on an act of sorts..at times it feels like a second job in all honesty..there are times im energized by socializing but again, it must be about something meaningful..it cannot be about what your boss said to you on your lunch break lol
/r/seduction01/03/16 10:15 PM
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I will look into that
/r/seduction01/03/16 10:13 PM
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I disagree, I have to accept im an introvert and to not try and act like an extrovert..I've tried being the energetic, fun guy in the past and it works at getting numbers and 2nd dates but she will eventually see who I really am..its just when I first meet a girl I just turn up my energy level a few notches, I don't try to completely transform like in the past.. I have a high level of social competence though but very low social endurance..I just cannot socialize for long without feeling drained…
/r/seduction01/03/16 10:12 PM
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. Being exciting! This is one area i fail at..my life is not exciting, I work, have a few hobbies and interests and that's it..i don't have any drama to talk about either..I've tried to exaggerrate my life by pretending that it's more exciting than it is but it just feels so off..I hate having to pretend to be someone else..in the end, most people's lives are rather boring.. 5-Yep I've failed in this one too..I could tell several girls were wondering why I wasn't just coming over and fucking the…
/r/seduction01/03/16 10:01 PM
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Very true and it's just not in my character to be able to listen to too much small talk or whining..im not sure I could even train or get better in this area
/r/seduction01/03/16 09:54 PM
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True, men generally aren't that fun to talk to either but with men, we generally share hobbies or mindset..sadly I can't remember the last time I had a really interesting conversation with a woman..makes me wonder how in the hell do men maintain their marriage?
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:59 PM
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Again im extremely introverted so socializing in general is draining..also, introverts desire meaningful conversations, I simply cannot sit and talk to a woman about 'chit chat' ..I need productive or interesting conversations in order to build a connection..no offense but I assume you are extroverted?
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:54 PM
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Ehh I don't just ask endless questions, I inject my humor into it and get a few laughs but it still just seems tedious..occasionally a conversation is enjoyable but it's rare..I ask co workers and friends about talking to women and they just roll their eyes and tell me to not get involved in talking, that I should just focus on leading it to the bedroom..they seem to never have worthwhile conversations with women yet the guys on reddit are....lol. Wtf
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:52 PM
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I do want to connect with the women I talk to but I cannot be putting in 90% of the effort during conversations..I am genuinely interested in the beginning but if the girl just rambles about her life and doesn't seem interested in me or bigger questions/topics, then my interest dies fast..I need a girl where we can bounce ideas off each other, I generally always take the lead in conversation, you mention steering it in my direction, which means what exactly?getting to the point where I'm just ta…
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:46 PM
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I usually text her a little bit, get a general vibe on her interest but I'll be honest, it's not often I want to take them out so maybe I text too much..I'll call them but my interest fades pretty fast with most women..lol..maybe I'm too picky, I really don't know..
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:37 PM
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I have pretty good social skills but I almost find talking to women even more draining now because I'm hyper-sensitive to how they react and how self absorbed they are.
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:35 PM
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