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DebateTreacle-Flimsy/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:00 PM
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Mods, I strongly advise you to hand out more month long ban because when you gave me one it basically proved to be nice experience overall I guess I'm going to lay off the Reddit for a while P.S. I'll probably come back at purge just to troll
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:26 PM

Equal rights equal fights
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:37 AM

Aka women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:26 AM

Why? Because it doesn't fit your narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:45 AM
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You don't have to make another option for units. Just make a few more choices in the height, that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:05 PM
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Don't bs me, you use fucking feet. At least add an option of meters to already existing ones
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:47 PM
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Why not? Who in the world measures their height in inches? It doesn't tell me shit if someone says I'm 50 inches or 100 and I'm certain I'm not the only one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:34 PM
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Fuck your inches and pounds. Do a normal system ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:06 PM
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you accuse women of making themselves out to be victims when you are here crying that you can't get women, not through any fault of your own, but because women and chads are evil forces that.....victimize you? Don't hate the player, hate the game. I just dislike when women talk about dating as if they have problems in it while having complete control of the market. It's just disingenuous to complain when you are in total control of the market
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 12:04 AM
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I can't come up with any other reason whyy they want more kids than they'd like except for longing for Chad, especially given how good they are at rationalising everything to make themselves seem victims
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:55 PM
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No need to troll It is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:41 PM
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Even in the unlikely event that they adjust the workplace women would still want to procreate only with chads, so it wouldn't matter because chads are only so many
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:39 PM
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If “Chad” is only the upper-most level of men, it seems weird that you’re really searching to find a way to apply the title to simply having one (1) attribute that fits your ideal of a man. Upper-most level of men don't have a rigid image of a man. It's rather a group of men with above average attractiveness, aka "Chads", so yes, you dated these two "Chads", it's just they were more of a niche, but "Chads" regardless Next time you go outside, look at all the couples you see. Most of them are goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:38 PM
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Everything that happens to men while dating, the inverse happens for women No. Women get the romantic gestures, men don't. Women can have their pick of partner, men don't. women have an upper hand in dating, men aren't completely powerless in the exchange "Aren't completely powerless" as you called it is literally to either suck it up or go home alone. There's no inverse happening to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:29 PM
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They were both really pretty, shared a lot of my interests Yeah, I made a mistake. They were looking good enough for you to go out with them. Sidenote, since men don't have a lot of makeup involved, their pretty features are good genetics, so in my previous reply I should've said that they are "Chad" in the sense of genetics I recognized one of them from a group I volunteered with before where we clean up trash around parks in the city. Social proof definitely helps
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:22 PM
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Yes I'd love for it to be different, but it's just the way it goes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:17 PM
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Just no Women have the control of dating market, men don't If someone stood women up, it's on women If someone stood men up, it's not on men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:16 PM
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They would still have to be "Chad" in the sense that they needed to be in the top category of other things like status or money, so while they probably weren't muscular, they were high enough status for you to go out with them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:13 PM
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Women have the control of dating market in ways men can't even dream If a woman has a bad ex, she chose him from the myriad of other dudes, it's on her If a dude has a bad ex, he took what he can from one or two opportunities that arose to him, it's not on him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:10 PM
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Women find majority of men unattractive, so even if you don't perceive these two dudes to be handsome, they probably were
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:06 PM
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Women have the agency and ability to choose, men don't It's not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:58 PM
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And I get that it sucks being ghosted or stood up, it happens to us, too. Factually incorrect. Women get stood up by chads, men get stood up by average women. It's not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:53 PM
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Honestly, I chill. I just thought I'd ask something because people love to bring up the idea that women find different men attractive when it couldn't be further from the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 09:23 PM
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Good for you ig
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:19 PM
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The point is people still date as they always have Yeah, they date top guys in their friend group, just as they always have Who's not to say that men chased the top X% of women before being rejected by them It doesn't apply to men because average guy can't even come close to the top % of women, while average woman is capable of sleeping with top % of men, a luxury average guy will never have. Anecdotally, there's almost not a single story about how some average guy slept with female celebrity, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:09 PM
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I think it's not as straightforward as 80/20, it's more like 60/40 with a grey zone in the middle So you "feel" that it isn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:02 PM
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No, and? I really don't see your point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:59 PM
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It really doesn't. You can't put two sticks in the sand and measure the shadow in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:58 PM
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It doesn't matter though. Even if they date now, who's not to say she chased top 20% of guys before getting rejected by them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:56 PM
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I have no idea really. We just had a convo about it with my friends so I decided to make a thread about it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:54 PM
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Both men and women act on the 80/20 rule. Irrelevant. Women have too much power in dating to flip it on men. Of course, you are not going to match as a bottom 50% man, if you focus basically all of your likes to the top% of women After the if I believe you meant "men" instead of "women", because top 10 percent matched with 58 percent of women they liked, which is insane number in and of itself, given how men have the tendency of liking every profile they come across Other than that, 70% of men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:52 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:42 PM
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Sorry, but no A lot of guys can relate to the sentiment of women going for the same guys because they experienced it before, in the right circle or not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:42 PM
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Why do you think people would date all the time in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:40 PM
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It is absolutely an experience. If a guy sees women in his circle repeatedly go for 7-10 same guys, it is an experience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:37 PM
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Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:33 PM
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If many people have the same experience, it's called sharing an experience and many guys share the experience of women going after the same men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:32 PM
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These are radically different things and can't be compared One is a scientific fact, and the other one is a societal norm, there's just no adequate comparison to be made
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:31 PM
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Out and about, most people don't even know what that is. Maybe not as a "80/20" rule, but almost every guy I know can relate to the overall sentiment that women go for relatively same guys It would be true, if your average or unattractive men weren't dating, having relations, getting married etc....which they are With all due respect, it wouldn't matter even if it was true (when it isn't). Male experience isn't observed by women, so it's safe to ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:26 PM
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Guy B and it's not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:44 PM
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Bro, why you feed him like that, damn 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:30 PM
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I'd wager that 70% of women will cheat, men probably much less so because it's too unrealistic to happen to men Not at all, women would cheat more because Maddison would simply lise interest cause hypergamy Basically while this scenario is somehow attainable for women, any female celebrity would deem average guy as beneath her and he'll be invisible to her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:29 PM
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You try to pass it off as rational while it's completely the opposite If you have trouble with women, the last thing you want to do is to shoot yourself in the foot by lying and limiting your encounter to exclusively one time thing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 11:38 AM
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You take me for some kind of player while I'm far from it. It's just my understanding that even if you get a chance to get laid every once in a while, you still should not lie because if you lied and succeed, you will lose in the long term because you lied in the beginning. This is especially dumb to lie, because average guys won't have much options to get casual sex anyway, so their best bet is to be in the relationship, but with lying you literally chop off the stick you're sitting on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:55 AM
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Honestly, my experience is the exact opposite Being completely transparent made dating so much easier for me in both stress and effort that I'd advise to try it. And yeah, you will lose out on some of the women with that approach, but who cares? It's better to lose out on some than getting burned out by the dating after a month or so
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:38 AM
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I don't really know the term for it, I'm just a bit too tired of constantly worrying about something that doesn't affect me in any way idealistic I guess yeah. It's not that I have some horrible event that altered my beliefs or anything, I just have too much stuff to take care of, so I don't waste my energy on this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:59 PM
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Used to be socialist, now I don't give a fuck. I will support whatever suits me, regardless whether it's left or right
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:36 PM
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To be fair, my biggest shitpost was here on the purge week and it started a damn war in the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:12 AM
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You must be joking. The top communities are heavily PC, misogyny is only on the fringes, not mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 06:02 AM

Mf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 06:39 AM

Men that is 7 is not average by default
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:42 PM

I'm saying that any "biology" argument, yours included, indirectly advocates for rape because you imply that biology is good when it's in favour of women. Women date who they like, nothing wrong with that. Where I see the problem is when this argument extends to men. Women are attracted to minority of men, due to biology. So, the majority of men are undesirable. Then there's no reason for them to honestly try to date respectfully and normally, because biology. Why would a guy try to do it normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:57 PM

To be honest, given how often rapists go to jail it's not a valid consideration: (1) [2] I'm not saying that women should be banned from dating. What I'm saying is when you rationalise that women like minority of men due to "biology", you indirectly advocate for rape
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:36 PM

No. My point is that, this whole biology argument endorses rape. It's not, in any way, instruction or suggestion for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:34 PM

If he managed to force himself on big enough number of women, he biologically won, regardless of where he ends up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:25 PM

It's not antagonistic. It's just facts
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:16 PM

Tbh, the biggest problem I see with all the "biology" arguments is that they indirectly endorse rape Like, what's the reason for your average and below average guy to be respectful and trying to honestly date someone if he can try to overpower some woman and biologically win
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:10 PM

Idk how it relates to my comment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:59 AM

Women don't get rejected. Unless it's some disinterested 9/10 chad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 05:41 AM

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/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 08:16 AM
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In the current environment it's way too easy to misinterpret it as something antifeminist, which is guaranteed to cause a controversy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:42 PM
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Hygiene is important frfr
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 02:37 PM
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I'm all for it. It would be nice, controversial and for a lot of memes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:32 AM
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Nice cock bro
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:23 AM

It depends on the situation tbh. If I see a woman having problems with something I could help with, sure, I'll help if I can, but if it's something along the lines "Got chased by a mob", I will come nowhere near her
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 05:05 PM
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I guess it depends on how psychotic I would've been if I was a woman Exhibit A: Run a game to insurmountable levels, do everything RP teaches to do on women, but do it on the guys instead. First times will be difficult, but since experience could be acquired incredibly easy, the game will be insane. Free meals, free ride, free shit, giving and withholding validation, trying to orbit as many guys as possible... Yeah, pretty psychotic but useful Exhibit B: Date in the circle of friends. Red flags …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:45 AM
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It's being a doomer, not redpilled
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:31 AM

It's probably just a breakup thing. In many parts of the world you are exotic yourself. Try traveling, honestly, nothing gives bigger self esteem than dating outside your own country
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:28 AM
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This imagery is valid only for those who have never seen respectable men with their own eyes. The best thing a father can do is become one
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:05 PM
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It's bad overall, but even if it's bad, it shouldn't be taken literally
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:13 PM
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7/10 A lot of rejections, but if one succeeds, you found a keeper
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:12 PM

Us clearly becoming more conservative Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:52 PM
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8/10 Their views are like Pandora box, you never know what to expect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:12 PM
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8/10 Make them pay for meals and you're a full-blown escort!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:11 PM
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6/10 Good advice in general, but also not really helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:10 PM
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10/10 I mean as the worst advice possible, 1/10 is actually great advice, so I assume you meant 10/10 7/10 is because generally women have no clue about what flies and what's not because they are on the receiving side, but I guarantee, if you talk to a girl that had a glow up, you'll have a valid advice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:52 PM
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9/10 Just say no to him, should be easy enough
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:30 PM
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10/10 (11/10 with a bonus) Lock her in the basement until her hormones go back to norm after suggestion, no use talking to w🤮men while they're emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:28 PM
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7/10 Women can lie but not all women are liars
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:25 PM
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7/10 Be literally Patrick Bateman and you will find success
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:22 AM
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10/10 Simp agenda never dies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:21 AM
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7/10 Might work on people who knew you at your worst
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:30 AM
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8/10 Neckbeard has a girlfriend™
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:55 AM
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7/10 Gotta find those women with low self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:54 AM
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10/10 "The Pity Fuck is real!!" <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:53 AM
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9/10 Don't forget to disappear when she becomes a baby mama!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:51 AM
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9/10 The best way to set yourself up for failure in this day and age
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:48 AM
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6/10 It's called soft approach, and it's actually pretty useful when done right
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:45 AM
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11/10 Great idea! Bonus point for minors!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:44 AM
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6/10 Without playing games you might get a better relationship than otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:43 AM
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10/10 Her attention will be yours guaranteed!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:19 PM
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10/10 Unpopular opinion: In the psych ward, there should be annual Twerkathon, where a person who twerks the best gets back into society no matter what they did
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:09 PM
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7/10 Generic enough to work once in a blue moon
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:07 PM
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10/10 Great advice! After the deed, Better Call Saul!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:38 PM
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5/10 It could backfire but it's not that terrible imo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:35 PM
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6/10 Too many simps to be invalid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:19 PM
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9/10 If your cold approach sucks, you're doomed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:18 PM
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9/10 So alpha, so cool. Straight to the point to show this bitch who's wearing adult pants here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:17 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:02 PM
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10/10 Gotta show em bitches that alpha's in the house Edit: I'm sorry it happened to you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:57 PM
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6/10 Without playing games you might get a better relationship than otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:53 PM
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8/10 Great idea, don't forget to bring your liberal friend with you so he can always remind you of the Reddit way, the right way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:52 PM
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7/10 One day his slap of the ass will bite him in the ass
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:50 PM
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10/10 Don't forget to make a dragon. Prince's gotta slay something for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:49 PM
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8/10 Friendzone bros welcome you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:48 PM
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9/10 Toddlers will teach you responsibility 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:47 PM
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6/10 Women tend to skip some things in discussions, but I doubt they're always lying
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:46 PM
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10/10 Great way to end up being a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:13 PM
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7/10 You can feel the spiritual energy of many men come inside you during sex (Applies to small number of promiscuous women though)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:05 PM
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9/10 The best relationships are abusive relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:02 PM
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Said it like a true player. The best game is the one where you always win
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:00 PM
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6/10 Works only for women and male models
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:57 PM
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8/10 Don't forget to blame women when she leaves you for money
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:53 PM
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10/10 Hitting is his love language
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:53 PM
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6/10 Without playing games you might get a better relationship than otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:51 PM
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10/10 These brothas be preaching yo. Just remember to date on sugar babe sites
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:51 PM
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9/10 Life's a game yo. Get big or die trying
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:49 PM
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9/10 Everyone loves getting rejected, right?...right?...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:48 PM
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9/10 "I can fix her/him"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:47 PM
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9/10 My way or highway yo. If the bitch can't handle the heat, why would you want to get into the relationship with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:46 PM
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6/10 It's okay to be virtuous, but it doesn't help in dating in any way. However, it might be useful in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:45 PM
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7/10 You might get lucky with unconventional approach, but noone likes desperation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:44 PM
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6/10 Looks matter, but without personality behind them you'll be quickly out of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:43 PM
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7/10 Advice is so generic, it might just help
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:43 PM
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10/10 Tate simps are renowned alpha males, join them bro
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:42 PM
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Ah, you should edit your previous comment because it reads exactly like having instinctual knowledge Some guys are just that: bitter (or maybe hurt, idk/don't care). Me personally? The smarter/more capable girl, the better, but hey-ho, it's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:19 PM
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No-one knows something just because they're woman or man. It's like saying that every guy knows how to fix a car just because he's a guy. Without your first paragraph your comment makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:07 PM
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Man, 5/10 I was called cute a few times. I'm 183 cm. Cold approach works for me. So yeah, probably 5
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:25 PM
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Women hate average men regardless of how kind or honest he is. By abandoning stupid outdated ideals of doing it "the right way" a guy will have more success than otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:09 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with a husband wanting a chad treatment from his wife
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:30 PM
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Karen's are rather an outliers though. Most women, I'd wager, are celebrated for the most delirious takes without any push back
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:29 PM
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Guys are just venting about being utterly invisible for years and then, after a long dry spell, they finally see an interest from women, only to have to jump through hoops, while others didn't have to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:21 PM
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Yeah, top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:44 AM
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Can you really blame them though? Rejection hurts af, by this point cold approach is only for the dudes with thicker skin, because of how skewed everything against guys is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:42 AM
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I actually did a post about the dating app simulation and let me tell you: a median score of matches for men is zero. "The vast majority of likes to the top men" was even approved by one of the Hinge devs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:50 PM
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Gigachad. Looks, status, etc. A Gigachad would probably have more options than average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:09 AM
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Still, compared to OLD, cold approach has reasonable demands on looks because you don't compete in the environment where literally every guy around her throws himself at her. Furthermore, you disregard an opportunity to chat her up and move on from there. If you're funny enough and capable of chatting up strangers, you can go for it while not being outstanding in terms of looks. Are there guys who are ugly ducklings that won't be able to pass looks filter, even in cold/warm approach? Yes, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:21 PM
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They overlap, no questions about it What you don't consider is that on OLD the filter is looks. In cold approach, it's more of a combination of social awarenesses, looks, rizz, etc. Due to it being a combination of things, instead of just one, dating will be different than OLD and that's why this advice persists
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:53 PM
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"Men take what they can get" removes any semblance of accountability from the guy. If you don't have the backbone to say no to a relationship that you're obviously not going to like it's on you, not on women You can make fun of it all you want but it is what it is I'm not making fun of it. I'm saying that the most helpful RP advice is far from being uniquely RP. For instance: hitting the gym is helpful , but well overused adviced that somehow attributed to RP. It's not, in any way, RP. It's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:51 PM
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The thing with dating apps is that they are made in a way that results in gigantic failure for men. Pretty much everything, from user ratio to disparity guarantees failure. Touch grass in that sense is rather saying that dating in person is easier, because it removes a lot of problems and perceptions that are induced by OLD I have to admit though, there are times when this advice is rather toxic, but it's still doesn't diminish it's value outside those instances
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:32 PM
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I'm not going to pretend that there are people who settle for someone or that there's someone for everyone, but you don't need RP to figure out that. Ideas like "Men take what they can get" that is common in TRP will absolutely get you settled down for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:25 PM
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I'm not even sure it's ideology tbh. It's more of a common sense + teenage edginess + a pint of bitterness = TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:21 PM
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Of course. If she's being a bitch, it's time to bounce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:19 PM
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Bro, you should reply to Automod with this, because it's not challenging my post
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:18 PM
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Yes, I agree. Trying and failing is called touching grass, it's okay, it's natural, as well as it's helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:16 PM
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Bro, there's literally an assumption of betas and alphas as well as AWALT that all women either see you as alpha or beta. It's not adapting, it's untruthful assumptions at best. There's zero adaptations and the only good advice like go to gym and don't make women your priority isn't unique to RP, it's coincidental
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:15 PM
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I'm not sure how it relates to my reply tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:05 PM
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But when you "go redpill" you assume that you know everything about other people, and it's simply not true. And this example is just one of many. For example there's an assumption that a girl might say no because you don't have enough "game" and it's equally false
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:04 PM
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I'm saying that if you can befriend women, you already know how to talk to them. Escalating is up to the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:59 PM
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It leads to RP only if you assume you know everything about people around. For instance, a girl could say no due to infinite amount of reasons, not because she's banging chad behind doors
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:56 PM
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Still, knowing how to come off in a friendly way is important, especially with sexual intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:42 PM
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Isn't talking to women a prerequisite to making friends with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:36 PM
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Yeah. I miss these vast green fields from time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:35 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:19 AM
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Since I started implementing RP I was able to reach body count of 8, compared to 0 beforehand. The main things which are strictly RP that helped me are maintaining frame, willful neglect, keeping the door open, stuff like that. So yeah, practically speaking it's a success
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:03 PM
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Fax yo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:43 PM
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They can't tell shit unless it's obvious. No-one is a mind reader, your game is basically to not get caught
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:03 AM
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Honestly, if you have poor social skills, you ought to use OLD. Texting and assertiveness is doable by practice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:33 AM
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I'm from Ukraine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 08:57 AM
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Pro-Ukraine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:16 AM
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Moderate as if more conservative or liberal?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:52 PM
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Black hair Any colour will do 5'7 and more Athletic build Equal Don't really care (If lower, I'll try to help however I can, if higher, I'll try to catch up, if equal, I'll try to encourage so that both of us topping the field) Don't care, just not incredibly promiscuous (Like less than 30) The same as 7 Don't care Hetero My or older or maybe slightly younger (I'm 22) I don't have strict requirements, but the stance on the Ukraine war is a dealbreaker
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:50 PM
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Reading social cues and not being overly pushy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:55 PM
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And what about lesbian porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:57 AM
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You won't know how to aim if you never shoot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:25 PM
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Keep preaching lol You gotta shoot your shot or you'll be regretting it later
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 10:29 PM
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Almost exclusively coffee dates. 280 Yen is for my favourite cup, so roughly 2$
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:44 AM
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I just wanted some dating advice. No-one really explains the "You're such a great guy" situation where the said guy gets literally nothing while more questionable guys do like RP. On top of that, it gives quite a good framework to work with on the dates. So yeah, when it worked and suddenly I'm not being made to indefinitely wait for sex, I just went along with it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:37 AM

Hell, I remember this video, it's fucking insane
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:01 PM
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Bro, crazy girls are fun until she threatens to castrate you and smashes your favourite cup in a temper tantrum My honest advice: tread lightly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:18 AM
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I guess it depends on how wide you can stretch the phrase that RP is morally ambiguous. If we're going all out, then majority of women are in a bit of a r@pe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 05:55 PM
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I guess it's in the category of "It is what it is", because women make it impossible at times to believe they even like average men, let alone something bigger
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:59 PM
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A big all out war could absolutely do it, but then everyone would be busy cleaning up the mess after the war than solving problems of men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:29 PM
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If it happens just lie about it and pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 06:25 AM
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Given the rates of divorces, healthy marriages aren't the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:08 PM
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Doesn't matter. "Her money is her money but his money is ours" is still common
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:43 PM
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Men naively think that a woman can love them and treat them well. Obviously no woman is capable of love, that's why women create the difference in treatment and men's complaints
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:31 AM
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I made a post about simulation of the dating apps. There, problems for men start to snowball at the point when ratio of men to women is introduced, so I disagree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:01 AM
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Ngl I would be weirded out. It's so uncommon it will be weird to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:03 AM
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Honestly, after applying Red pill I did get some success (mind you, it's not big. I basically went from bc of 0 to 4), but in the process you lowkey realise that you can't be 100% red pilled in dating. RP proposes too many skewing generalisations that are rather insecure than objective, so you might want to step away from it for at least some time. Some advice of RP is spot on. Maintaining frame is useful af. You also need to escalate to avoid friendzone, so there's points to RP too. But when a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:55 PM
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I was aiming to get sex. Turns out, it useful only for this, cause I got it. Everything else like marrying barely legal virgin or god forbid political views is utter shit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:22 AM
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There's a difference between showing RP traits and speaking up about one's beliefs. If you maintain frame , it's good, but if you maintain frame and say that you find RP to be true and talk about hypergamy and stuff, then yeah, it's over
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:45 AM
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Basically you will have to avoid relationships, because if you get into one and she sees RP, consider it ended
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:27 PM
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To be honest, the "many women" argument isn't good because if majority of women are x, then BB will likely encounter women who are x rather than any else
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:26 PM
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True lol. It's especially funny when the political takes are just straight up delusional, but sold as a truth under a mask of RP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:24 PM
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Yeah, that's more reasonable and unprovable on my part
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:23 PM
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True. I agree with you. It's really empowering, but unfortunately there's a lot of rather bitter men in RP that heavily skew any discussion away from the common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:57 PM
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Dayum, that's fair point. Intention is largely overlooked in these discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:54 PM
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And why it's a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:48 PM
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Unironically, it's only when I stopped listening to women I found some success
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:47 PM
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To go along as devil's advocate, you'd be setting him up for failure if she's known as a slutty, but acts conservatively with him. It just means she's not attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:46 PM
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And what if he wants to date? Would you try to discourage him from RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:43 PM
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I've come to realize that not only you don't need RP to take care of yourself, RP itself is common sense, wrapped up as if it's something edgy and ground braking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:42 PM
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Ngl, this is what prompted that post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:39 PM
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Almost everyone knows at least one person that slays. AF/BB premise is built on AF being far less numerous than BB, so it's natural that he couldn't name a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:38 PM
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I'd play the devil's advocate. Tell him to describe a beta and then to find 10 examples in the real world. AF/BB is built on a premise that AF is far less numerous than BB, so it's not a valid point A beta is basically any man who is in a relationship. A beta isn't only a guy who isn't in a relationship. A beta is a guy that goes through hoops and loops for a girl to achieve something which she gave for free to other men, relationship included
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:35 PM
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Of course you won't, but you will have to mind every step of your dating because if she realises it, she'll just leave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:28 PM
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I disagree. It's not how persuasion or convincing works. You can push someone with your words to think over their actions and change the perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:26 PM
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Ngl, it's kinda what prompted this post. I was going out lately and I thought RP is just the key, the secret, the best and stuff. Then I told my RP beliefs to a two of my friends, that are natural players, my brother and my friend. One of them refused to speak about it, as he outright called it cap. My brother indulged and after a hundred 'you're an idiot', his response to almost every RP talking point was 'Duh'. So, yeah, made me question RP beliefs, but AF/BB is the one I'm struggling to let g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:23 PM
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And what if he points out a few irl examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:16 PM
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Good point, but as another commenter said, there's a difference when Alpha pays and Beta pays. To Alpha it's courtesy, to Beta it's necessity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:14 PM
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Good point, but I doubt that it's enough to sway someone away from RP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:11 PM
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If I was in these shoes, I'd try to give different explanation of what's happening. Like, a driver is mad not because you showed him middle finger but because he's in a hurry, that kind of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:11 PM
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Karaboğa
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:09 PM
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But what if he's doing okay? What would it change?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:09 PM
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RP in general is an obstacle in dating, because if the girl realises that you have it, she'll leave you, so you have to conceal it at every step
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:08 PM
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This rings true in my experience. Eastern (and not only asian in that sense) women are attracted to the same that women in the west are, idk where is that believe comes from that they are different
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:07 PM
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Lmao. It's not related to the post, but two chads I know irl are blue pilled af
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:28 PM
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But maybe it's not...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:27 PM
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I can't see why a good faith convo couldn't be made. Pretty normal believe to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:26 PM
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But you can do that without RP. Honestly, pretty much everything RP teaches is common sense wrapped up in edgy style
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:55 PM
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It's a bit of a wishful thinking that Chad doesn't end up in a good relationship. He has experience and options to filter and pick a woman through
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:54 PM
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Idk who they are so it doesn't tell me much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:43 PM
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If a girl gets a whiff of RP, she'll leave Besides, you don't need to uphold its beliefs to use its framework for navigating dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:42 PM
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I'd say that it's probably for everyone, even if it's thought experiment, it counts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:41 PM
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My school. Think about tinder ratio of men to women but irl. Almost everything that RP preaches could be seen, with some notable exceptions of course
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 05:23 PM
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Bro, crazy girl is a nightmare, not a blessing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 05:53 AM
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I think it's better to have rather 'scientific' because you might have a room full of sportsmen and your average guy will be a zero because hypergamy, but in another environment he will be 5 or 6 Also, that guy is either 4 or 5
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 05:32 AM
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In relationships as well. Like, what effort do you put into relationships that men don't? She'll be able to monkey branch the moment someone better comes, doesn't sound like putting effort in current relationship to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:13 AM
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And women don't even do that. Y'all live in tutorial mode
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:05 AM
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Talk about fragile female ego lmao, where they don't have to do shit to have easy mode forever
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:03 AM
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It's probably a compliment to her
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:59 AM
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Women have zero problems. Just being decent is a pick me. Y'all such a leeches, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:56 AM
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Irl is just easier, at least for me. I've never really had much success on dating apps and to be fair I found them incredibly demoralising. Irl you just talk to person, maybe you can leverage a moment to your advantage, it's not just your looks but also your rizz and social awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 03:58 PM
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Cold approach if you're not scared to take L Meeting someone through friends group is probably the way to go
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:13 PM
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They probably have no idea what average experience even looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:16 PM
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The only thing I can think of to make it work is to artificially remove user ratio, since it seems like all the problems start there and snowball into bigger toxicity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:14 PM
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Interesting POV. I'll play the devil's advocate and say that Tinder is a marketplace, but less of a product, but more of finding a right person for the job
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:11 PM
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It heavily influences irl because online dating pushes other types of dating out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:09 PM
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You are effectively an exception, given how numbers work against it I think in person it's better because you can actually use something to your advantage, not just a picture with a bio
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:08 PM
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I have no idea where did you get the idea that men love dating apps. The only positive about them is that they have no bar to entry, but it's not specific for men Also, unironically, women are not a monolith, so your explanation works only for a portion of women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:05 PM
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Good for you for finding your bf What are your thoughts on the simulation? Does it describe your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:18 AM
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Due to the numbers of likes, only women can realistically concern themselves with quality of the matches. The men will quite literally take what they can get I'm not sure why you think that users aren't representing a sizeable demographic. Online dating is actively replacing any other dating, so it's okay that it's representative of a chunk of population
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:55 PM
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I absolutely agree with you on this. A guy shouldn't concern himself with how some girl might think of him, he should do it for himself, as it's better than alternatives
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:50 PM
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While I agree, unfortunately online dating is replacing all other kinds of dating (sadly), so it's not an option to ignore it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:42 PM
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It's probably one of the most fastest conclusions there is - to get off the dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:02 PM
5

You described maintaining frame in a blue pill language
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:10 PM

Your idea of non western first gen guy is incredibly narrow and is rather detached from reality. The biggest winners in dating I know are non western. An african guy, straight out of Nigeria had no problem slaying chicks. My brother is non western, and he never had a problem slaying chicks, and no, it's not because he's drug dealer and shit, but because they are more confident, more straightforward, they don't overthink shit. Mind you, neither of them are drug addicts or ugly. However, me, a non…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:09 PM
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Women are single because they rejected potential suitors. Men are single because they have no suitors. It's not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:58 PM
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I think they just rarely see someone who could be qualified to be named "man", so they think masculinity is dead
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:25 PM
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I'd either try to keep up or get myself ready for her hypergamy to kick in
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:03 PM
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Couldn't have said it better I'd rather be a cripple than a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:09 AM
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🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:40 AM
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I disagree with you on chivalry. It could work, if you had already displayed DT traits because it would signal to her that she's special and gives her tingles Everything else is just spot on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:24 AM
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Yes I did. It is fun, you can talk about stuff other guys could label gay
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:39 AM
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You will never be in the right if you're a man, that's my main lesson. Also, if you're done with a girl, delete the chat by any means necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:44 PM
1

B all the way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:30 PM
1

Society is less critical of the bums, it's not critical of masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:36 PM

Misogyny doesn't hinder your success in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:12 PM
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I hope not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:42 AM
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Kind of. I'm going to go with example of my sister. She dated a guy named John. He was physically big, seemingly intelligent, polite, etc. He wanted to be a movie director and he put a few theatre plays. My sister didn't spot any potential concerns, because he was employed, polite, never raised his voice, was seemingly smart and respectful. Everything she could ask for, really, so she started dating him. Where's the caveat, you ask? His career in theatre, he boasted so much about wasn't nearly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:22 PM
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You have to screen for any potential dangers early on with cold head, but it's ok since a lot of women do it already. MY advice, would be to continue screening for them further into relationship too, because a lot of women look at the person closely only at the beginning, and then wonder why it turned out the way it did
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 10:32 PM
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Unfortunately they did. What I'm saying is that not a proof of anything. These articles are plenty because of the current trends, but it doesn't mean all men will kill, rape or do anything of the sort
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:28 PM
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It's baseless assumption created by women, who really can't take any rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:18 PM
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And? One article isn't proof of anything
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:10 PM
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I wouldn't really pay much attention to it, but it honestly depends on why is she a virgin and whether it was spoken about or not. I'm not a mind reader, so I can't just know if she is or isn't. As for the reasons: Religiously? No quarrel Some personal reason, like a fear of intimacy? No quarrel Focused on career, didn't want to do it? No quarrel "I just hate men"? I'm not willing to participate in it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:55 PM
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I like some women sure. I don't care about the rest tbh, you can burn and rot for all I care
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:44 PM
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I'm one of those guys that look more feminine than masculine, so I definitely sympathise and cheer on those that try to express it somehow differently With that being said, I don't really support those guys who are into furry/some other cringy stuff, because I find it somewhat repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:39 PM
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Women have infinitely more options then men and still go for thugs. Comparison doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:03 AM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:10 PM
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I'm going to say that it entirely depends on the woman in question. My sister, for instance, despite being one of the smartest people I know, chose bad and recently broke up with a man child of a bf, and another example is my uncle's wife who is quite attractive. Their situation is that due to unforeseen circumstances they literally couldn't return back home from the holiday trip, but they didn't fret and managed their problems so well that they uprooted their life and now comfortably live in Ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:06 PM
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Women will have casual sex with more dominant/successful/attractive guys and be in the relationships with less attractive guys, aka Beta Buxx. The idea is that if you're not very attractive, you should appear safe and then pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:22 AM
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Your example doesn't really prove anything. She's making too much money to be a good counter example of AF BB. We also don't know how her relationships were, it's possible that she already did AF BB, and now she's just alone
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:44 AM
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I mean, duh, of course. This is ridiculous thing to be controlling about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:39 PM
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Because you will be controlling if you did so
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:06 AM
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I wish more women understood that advising men to hold out for the better partner never works. And for the question... I'd say, How can you insist that women find different things attractive and yet guy's attractiveness treated more like a cast than a spectre?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:01 AM
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Yes. My ex had the best sex like ever (I know, I know, my body count isn't high, but what she gave me was more than enough)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:57 AM
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I admire how in the sea of options they consistently try to secure the best. Honestly, I hope those women who are truly oppressed (I mean Arab countries or Africa or Asia, not the cushy US, Canada or EU), were given freedoms
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:16 AM
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Preach baby preach
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:39 PM
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Women have nothing to offer to men as an advice because of how different it is for them. It's really that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:42 AM

Factually incorrect. Women in relationships only take without giving shit. You might as well just pum and dum because that's all they have at the end of the day I agree with your last take though that probably the most dudes that had natural success don't even think in such categories, but it doesn't mean that I or anybody else is weird because we had to learn the game
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:33 AM
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Hello земляк. I am one of those guys who genuinely believed that I was ugly, but then, when I actually started to date, I found out that I'm more normal looking then I let on. It just probably stems from the experiences that noone finds you attractive, so you believe that you're ugly, as simple as
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:10 PM
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Shit on the table. Straight up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:18 PM
1

I admit that going out IRL will do everyone good. I don't share the idea that going out will clear someone's opinions like red pill, because it certainly didn't in my case
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:27 AM

I'm not sure if this is trolling or you being serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:44 PM
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It's not about that. It's about speaking without caring what will think of you when you do so
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:42 PM
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Unironically based and I agree with you on the most part. Even though I'm not a Tate supporter, it needs to be said that Tate became popular in the different manner. Leaving aside his titles as a kickboxer, he got popular because he wasn't afraid to speak up on what he had in mind and he didn't gave much fucks about how will he be perceived. It's a different aspect of masculinity too (the most controversial nowadays), the one you didn't type out in your post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:19 AM
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Much easier time dealing with abuse. Nothing more to say about it More freedom/choice. Not much else to say about it More women in the workplace. I guess it's controversial to say for the guy who subscribes to rp, but I think it's positive since noone wants an adult toddler in the kitchen, while you run around doing everything Other positives are tangible only under certain circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:33 AM
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If she can't be alone for extended period of time
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:45 AM
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In my experience: a sister and 3 friends, but whenever I hear a story about women's cheating it is always recognisable AF BB
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:23 AM
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Not at all. In truth this post was high quality bait, as women participated in the war as nurses and were actively against it (not denying that there were pro war women btw). I can't help it, I just love chaos
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:52 AM
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I don't want it to get political, so I'll just say from poorer side in Easter Europe (it's quite rare due to my current location: japan)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:32 AM
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Lmao, I didn't even notice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:31 AM
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I'm just tired of being made a threat just for lulz
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:42 PM

Because looks dont trump personality. If someone is dealing with a hot person with red flags, most people would avoid them. And yet all stories women tell about their abusive ex prove otherwise. Their ex was hot enough to get laid with them and his personality didn't matter until later (and it's assuming that it's the main reason of the breakup) Im sorry, are you seriously saying that its not insane to want to associate with pedophiles? On the contrary, I agree with you that it's insane, in fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:27 PM
2

Everything in it is perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:14 PM
2

Sounds like a win in my book <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:55 PM
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If I had sex with her after breakup, it'll mean that we're back together. I turned it down so that my ex will stay my ex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:54 PM

No it doesnt. Shallow people typically ignore to go after rich or hot people. Why do you think that only shallow people go after them? In one of the screenshots from the chadfish, he makes it clear that he is a child rapist, and it's not like only women who will go after him are crazy. I'd argue it's your average women who somehow rationalised it to themselves and went through it. No, it proves my point well. Most guys don’t want women who cum for pedophiles. They would see her as a walking red …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:42 PM

I will win at the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:44 PM

Unless they are disfigured or have abnormalities, people can get dates regardless of looks. They just have to be reasonable about it. Chadfish proves that good enough looks trump personality. A good looking child rapist will get more play than average guy, disproving your point environment that you're in It's related, but not defined by personality. A guy can have a knack for math and he will appear more capable within math class than if he could during art class As an adult, people can move. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:36 PM

😎😎😎
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:23 PM

Can't remember it, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:18 PM

I guess I'll win in at least one category due to sheer number of posts lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:17 PM

Looks, environment that you're in, geography, current dating trends, social status and these all are out of the top of my head. I'll say a bit more about second point (environment that you're in) as it could be unclear what I mean by that. It's essentially where you at on the macro level, be it workplace or a bar. Your value could be different in two different bars or in two different workplaces
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:13 PM

It is a double standard though, as it is assumed that you constantly have to be man enough to not care about countless rejections, while there's no such thing for women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:03 PM

Personality isn't as detrimental to the success though as other factors. Other factors are far more important, to the point where it's logical to not assume it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:00 PM

It's still an overwhelming majority. Average dude won't get hit on, and even if it happens, it's so rare, it's not even worth discussing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:58 PM

Doesn't mean you're immune to it. You can still participate in them just not in this one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:57 PM

Competition between being killed or conquered and not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:15 PM

I am not denying that there exist double standards for women too, but they collectively are what introduce confusion into discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:14 PM

Competition I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:12 PM

You are only reinforcing my point, by stating that there's different expectations due to different genders
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:10 PM

I guess it only matters where it's thick
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:07 PM
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I honestly don't give a shit, as I'm clueless. Maybe cause rare ethnicity? All in all, I just date and that's all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:05 PM

I really hope you'll paint my brains over the walls for this crime😍
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:06 AM

I'm all in, Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:48 AM

I just love the kind of woman who will fuck me up
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:43 AM
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And yet they didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:13 AM

Hello beautiful 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:12 AM

U do u
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:13 PM

IDK why would anyone engage in debate with Lilith because she's your typical FDS type
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:12 PM
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Me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:08 PM
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Nice. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's cry
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:08 PM
2

If I sent you my picture in DM's would you rate me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:07 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:54 PM
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"You're such a harpy"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:54 PM
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It's over, chargerbros
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:46 PM
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You're such a great guy for empowering her tho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:34 PM
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Omg brother, your opinions are 100000% more valid
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:32 PM
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Alpha male is in the house💪, and you know exactly how it sounds💥
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:30 PM
2

There's already one on your right hand
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:17 PM
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How is the guy supposed to learn if he doesn't get any action? It's easy for women to say because they can rack up massive numbers with 7-10 men easily, but it's not for men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:43 AM
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90% of incels lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:15 AM
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It's called a dick pick and I'm not sure there's a big audience for that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:22 PM
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I agree with you, but only in the case where a guy has experience. In the incel's case though, it's probably necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:35 PM
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I would argue that it's okay if the relationship implodes, a guy actually gets experience of what it's like to be in the failing relationship + he will have better understanding of what he actually wants
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:27 PM
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I think you're just incorrect. A guy can pull a girl through various means, having his shit together is a bonus, not a requirement. Look at criminals, or broke but confident guys, or nerdy okay looking guys, they all pull girl through different mechanisms
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:12 PM
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I don't think it's even reasonable to say if anyone is "ready" for girlfriend or not. You either pull or not, it's just that expectation on the gf will be destroyed in under two weeks into relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:09 PM
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IMO, their biggest delusion is their idea that once they get a gf, they will fix everything wrong with them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:50 AM
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They are someone I feel sorry for but I would never help them myself. They (in general) have zero experience so they delude themselves into thinking that they will fix everything once they get a girlfriend so they postpone putting a work into themselves for longer and longer periods and then, when it blows up in their face, they will blame women because in their minds, one gf is all they need to start working on themselves. It's a spiral into nothing, these guys are actually someone who could be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:47 AM
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But you did went on the dates with them, they did catch your attention. Your experience doesn't refute my point, it just states that you preferred guys from a relationships rather than casual, but you also didn't mention if those guys from relationships were able to find casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:39 PM
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Garbage take. You don't value it cuz you're taking it for granted. A guy who has a bunch of women sleeping with him without anything resembling long term has a game and a frame, both essentials for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:59 PM
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A man who had lots of casual sex will be experienced, not at all "ran through", not my problem biology is different There's also a thing that women release more hormones than men during sex, making their pair bonding worse than their male analogue Besides, having experience will help a guy to get into desired relationships as he would even know what to do
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:45 PM
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It's crazy to see how neutral article about it is. Affiliate marketing my ass
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:57 PM
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talking about mental health I think it's okay as long as you show that you can handle the heat. Idk what you mean by being "too animated"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:23 AM
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I think the sweet spot is showing that you're not a machine, but simultaneously not being a little bitch about your problems
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:05 AM

I'll speak for myself only (22M). It did help me get laid and get into relationship, however: It helped me to get laid, but it doesn't mean it magically made women attracted to me. Before RP I have been on only 1 date, that went poorly, after it I have been on ~16 dates in the span of 7 months and my bc right now is 6, compared to 0 before, which is a lot of progress if you ask me. It helped me to get into a relationship, but it wasn't good one. It ended after 4 months of near constant fighting …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:23 AM
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Do you have any facts to back that up, or you just speculate on the elitism?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:51 PM
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Idk, I managed to pull first relationship through RP tools. It wasn't good relationship, but it still counts and better than none
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:48 PM
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The main body of TRP's advice is amoral. Lift, chase money, etc. It's a set of tools, not of a beliefs. Some advice could be viewed in a bad way like anything with PUA, but it's ok because almost everyone has at least some controversial acts from time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:18 AM
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This post is very normal. It saddens me that it needs to be said
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:50 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 02:55 PM
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I don't understand those who are surprised too. Women like capacity of violence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:54 AM
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I think it's just a combination of "unlucky" and "below average guys. A guy could already have moved out of parent's house and works for a living but dating scene is rigged too much against him so he doesn't have a success or the guy who lives with his parents just isn't attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:24 AM
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Well, if a man knowingly allows his wife to fuck around, he's not a man at all, so yeah. I'd go ahead with it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:53 PM
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Yes, they are. Inconsistent emotionally unavailable guy = guy who gives tingles. Thoughtful guy isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:31 PM
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It got me redpilled too. I kinda justify lying with amount of options they have
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:43 AM

So... Where's the issue exactly? "Female nature" celebrated everywhere as a good thing, just because there's one group of people that thinks male one is better doesn't seem like a big issue to me I'd argue it's more of an issue that if you don't shit on men 24/7, you're controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:26 AM
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Ah, yes, Glorious DerayRevan
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:12 AM
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Reasonably. It's important to remember that you will need to improvise with it a lot, as it will need "calibration " to your attractiveness but it gives the framework to judge your approaches better Also, it comes better with practice, so I suggest you find a few places without your acquaintances to practice your social skills. And don't worry how you will upset someone if they discovered that you practiced something on them, you go first, them later
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:08 AM
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Most ridiculous thing of it all is that nothing of what has been mentioned is being sold to women, it's sold almost exclusively to men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:33 PM
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It's better than nothing I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:09 PM
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You got nothing to say isn't misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 07:58 AM
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My old female friend chose literal drug dealer with a record over everyone else (and her options were big and wide), and when, expectedly, I soon saw bruises on her arm and confronted her about it she rationalised it as him being rough in bed. At the time, I thought it's true, but later I've found out that he was hitting her. Spoke with her about. "Fuck u D(me), You don't know him like I do"™. After a bit back and forth, I simply started to tread lightly. I was always perplexed as to why on eart…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:02 PM
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As an Eastern european, I'll just say it's true, but probably moreso because there are more attractive women overall than in the West, and golddigging much less accepted here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:08 AM

👍 Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:27 AM

Not always, but yeah, it gives at least some framework to navigate dating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:26 AM

If AWALT isn't real, so is ARMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:25 AM

Like I said, AWALT isn't real, but the idea itself is useful in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:25 AM

It's pointless to chase the exception because it's simply too rare
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:23 AM

I guess I'm really bad at knowing fallacies except for a few
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 07:23 AM
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Just because it has one false concept, doesn't mean whole of the RP is false
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:39 PM
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Looks are not universal currency. If anything, it's more of an individual addition to the money/status
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:37 PM
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Yes, it does claim to know everything. However, only some ideas of the RP are useful in the LTR (like maintaining frame), but some are not, like AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:36 PM
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Yes, it does claim to know everything. However, only some ideas of the RP are useful in the LTR (like maintaining frame), but some or not, like AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:35 PM
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I'm not sure what do you mean by "universal truths". What I mean in my post, is that a guy will be better off not second guessing himself if he did the right thing or not (think of approaches in the bar. A guy would needlessly stress himself over whether or not it will be appropriate to approach.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:33 PM
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It is accurate. It's controversial only from BP perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:29 PM
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It's not intended in any way for LTR, it's only for casual dating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:44 PM
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I agree with you on universal currency, but I didn't include money and status, because the post is about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:13 PM
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It takes a step further. It's not about people having similarities, it's that you assume that their differences isn't important to consider
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:12 PM
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Just because someone takes a step away from one of the concepts, it doesn't mean RP isn't controversial from BP perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:09 PM
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It's how it should be, but not how it's used. It's better for the guy to play on the bigger market than otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:00 PM
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I don't understand your question, could you rephrase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:58 PM
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90% is still AWALT and I argue that it's not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:13 PM
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But the circumstances of the things you described are different though. If a guy is unemployed for 1.5 years, there's a range of factors that could play into it, like he could be just lazy, or the situation on the work market is too difficult or something else. I said in OP that skinny men will have less challenging market to deal with than overweight guys, but they face the same problems overall
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:06 PM
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You don't have to be ideal to score, you need to be good enough. Triple six guys are rare, it's better to not stress about it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:02 PM
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I think a guy will appear more confident because he will assume that he's in the framework of the guy's of her taste. Less stressed convo, less tense situation for him overall. If rejected, bounces back because AWALT "didn't get it with her, will succeed with the other"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:48 AM
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Ask away
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:42 AM
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A guy doesn't know what the woman he approaches likes. Instead of second guessing and doubting himself, it's better for him to assume that she's no different than women he already knows
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:41 AM
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TRP is mostly about results, truth or not. It's just important to acknowledge that it has flaws, but noone should get stuck on them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:39 AM
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I don't see much fallacy here, a guy would really be better off assuming AWALT than assuming everyone is different
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:36 AM
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I have no idea what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 11:28 AM
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Probably around 40% with guys. Sometimes, it's reasonable, good observation that someone can actually spot irl, but quite often you'll see unfiltered doomer stuff which is rather depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:16 AM
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I honestly don't understand. Can you try to tell it simpler?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:13 AM
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Op answers your first question: because they are at least repulsed by the majority of men What comes to lesbians, firstly, you said yourself that lesbians cheer each other up, also have nicknames for each other and rather excited to meet each other. I don't see how this contradicts anything op stated Secondly, I gotta admit, I don't know much about lesbians because in my home country there were simply not a lot of them, so I can't say I know much about them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:08 AM
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But they clearly aren't excited for men though. Evolutionarily there were probably a handful of men and the vast majority of women who reproduced, not the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:56 AM
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You missed my point, so I'll try to rephrase. It's not about whether or not lesbians have to do anything with men, it's more of an observation like "Look, women when dating women are really excited for each, but not so for men, therefore, women are ,at least, repulsed by men"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:46 AM
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You low-key proved him right because all those nicknames, lower expectations women have for other women but not for men, therefore proving that women, by and large, are at least repulsed by men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:39 AM

Well, I guess I take a step in the more cynical direction My experience with getting more attention was tied to capability of standing up and leaving I also text when I'm free to, I just make sure that some time has passed, so even if I get a text and I can reply instantly, I don't. No offense taken btw, it's just that you gotta play asshole or else you'll be dealt "you're such a good guy" card I give compliments too, but I also watch the reaction to them to see if it's worth it I at least try t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:17 AM

You do you of course, I just suggest to look into it if you want to rack up those numbers no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:44 AM
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It's not about accountability though, it's about a response to some outside action For instance, a guy approached 5 girls and got brutally rejected each time. My advice here would be to "man up" and get over it, not wallow in self guilt how it's not fair or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:20 PM
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Yes, but in your post you make it seem like a zero sum game which it isn't. I'd also like to add, that people in the medieval period were shorter than people today, so it's not like shorter people had a line from prehistoric times
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:48 PM
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No, it's literally much more like a lottery, a guy can be short/dumb/have a small dickus or taller/smarter/have a biggus dickus. I even remember some studies that showed that attractive people have a higher iq
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:41 PM

I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:37 PM

This basically the same thing, the come over variant just implies it, without directly stating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:32 PM
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Incredibly big. Your assessment of SMV will change due to lack/overabundance of competition
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:15 PM
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The advice to "man up" isn't bad if it's taken in healthy doses
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:02 PM

I doubt that one liner like this will get you publicly shamed, especially if the guy is very handsome. You yourself provided an example of a joke that would be considered creepy for anyone else, partially proving my point. There would be a subset of guys who can text "u wanna come over?" and it will work for them. Those who are very handsome or those who can make it seem rather funny will get a pass woth horrible shit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:00 PM
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Without it you limit yourself to the pool of certain people, lying will help to get more numbers and therefore you'll be more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:55 PM

This why anyone should view dating in terms of market. If a person does so, after a few failures he will re-evaluate his current position
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:54 PM
2

This option is reserved largely only for women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:52 PM
1

I assumed you're rich, given your way to approaching the dating, but I gotta ask: Why simp? Aren't you more closer to bachelor status more than simp?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:25 PM

No homo, but Billy Herrington
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:23 AM
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Your first point isn't particularly good. You need to put a better look, sure, but not to this point. This is useless for many guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:22 AM
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I guess it really depends on how socially aware you are. "Hey, you sexy, let's fuck" will maybe work only if the guy looks like he is greek god
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:19 AM
1

Well, that's rough. I can only wish you to find someone who loves you for you but not as a temporary wallet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:16 AM
1

Why not go through with it with game? If you get well at it you can even lie in such a way that she thinks you're vibing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:15 AM
1

This is ridiculous advice. Dating shouldn't be expensive, and sugar daddying isn't nice imo. You buy desire, which in itself is a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:12 AM
1

To be fair though, it's just my primary way to get laid and I kinda realised it with a quite a bit of tries (I'm 22)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:10 AM
5

When I say based on appearance, I mean notice a details that are more common in one group of people more than the other. If you can see that she's fit, she's probably going to gym so when you start talking with her you can safely navigate the convo to the gym. Or if you see that she's scrawny, you test the waters on the more nerdy stuff and navigate the convo from there. It could be played around the fact that they're used to getting compliments from everyone, but I don't have much success in ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:23 PM
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I agree with you on knowing your league, but you need to shoot your shot anyway. It's not about her, it's about a guy. If he gets lucky, he won, if he doesn't, at least he tried I have to agree with you because what you've described is awkward approach I agree with you wholeheartedly, because it seems to put what was initially cold approach into more warm approach territory which is much easier to navigate and escalate. However, you conveniently forgot the part about looks that need to be in ord…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:05 PM
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You are right from a certain standpoint, simping is probably by far the single worst thing that jeopardizes men's chances, but I am not entirely with you in the kindness though. I'd argue that if kindness itself isn't sexy trait, but it depends on whom it's coming from. If it comes from an average guy it's not enticing, but if it comes from someone intimidating or someone attractive, it will be sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:38 AM
2

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:06 AM
3

I think the problem with that is women don't have to do anything in the dating. If she doesn't take initiative at least sometimes, he will leave
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:34 AM
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I am one of those men because it kinda works for me. I wait for 10-15 minutes before replying to her first text, I started putting less effort in the complimenting and started doing more negging, I started to behave in a cold/warm behaviour type where one day I'd be very receptive and attentive and on the other I'd be much less so. It kinda perplexed me at first, because if I were to be genuine, I'd leave all the mind games aside, but it makes me unattractive. Pushing boundaries, having a sight …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:32 AM
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Nowhere, they simply don't exist, most couples are of equal attractiveness, not otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:17 AM
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I know right? I guess Lebron James is one ugly mf by that logic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:14 AM
4

And where are these couples exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:11 AM
2

Honestly, without a good reason or prospects, I'd leave after the third date. However, it's worth to say that I'm not really looking for a relationship because I am not sure it's worth it. Withholding sex is a viable strategy to filter out those who have no intention of sticking around, however three months is too much imo. I would seriously doubt that a girl likes me if she makes me wait three months, but it needs to be said that if a guy feels desire coming from you and can see that you actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:09 AM
5

It's baffling to me how women hate conservatives but when pointed out some inconsistency, apparently they were taught by the men they hate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:59 AM
2

Good luck acting confident after countless rejections
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:54 AM
1

You absolutely have. Men approach, women are to be approached. With that being said, I try to approach women regularly whether it's cold approach or through apps, and it gets really frustrating at the amount of work I need to do vs them. My results are mixed, my main source of dates is cold approach with success rate around 90/10 on a very good week and probably 99/1 on the apps because I'm one of those who made a "swiping machine" so I don't have to waste my time. And let's not pretend that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:46 AM

Even though there are blanks in Red Pill theory like you pointed out that it's not really explaining more obscure things like 3 gender in premodern Japan or Greece, however where I am putting my foot is treatment of women. Firstly, Red Pill actually one of the few places that acknowledges that women can fuck shit up too and aren't wonderful by any means. It states that just like men, they have many faults and imperfections, so it's bot exactly dehumanising, on the contrary, it acknowledges them …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:07 AM

You have no idea why would red pill advice work or why would a person turn for it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:42 PM
4

I have an older sister and a twin brother, but it both red pilled me. Sister was (as far as I know at least) going firstly for the most dumbass guys she could find, then she migrated and after a brief dating period she found a polite, but physically big guy to enter a relationship with and so she did. They got married 3 years ago and seem fine overall. Sure, the guy is Blue Pilled, I've personally witnessed him fail shit test and he's clearly not in charge of the bedroom. My brother managed to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:35 PM
10

Even more brutal truth is that their partner will settle for them and they won't know love like ever, but hey ho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:19 PM
1

I guess. 80/20 rule is real
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:16 PM
1

I'd say it extends highschool, probably to the very early twenties, but after that it will get tougher
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:15 PM
2

I'd say it extends high school to very early twenties, after them it will get tougher
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:14 PM
2

I sincerely can't understand why on earth a woman would be insecure unless she's unattractive or aims for the best of the best They just stand around, waiting to be approached, they don't do shit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:08 PM
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A guy can't afford to make many mistakes with women in his twenties because all it takes for him to be replaced is one mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:58 PM
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If you don't expect them to slide in your dms, I have no idea why you're doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:55 PM
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And subsequently discourage everyone else I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:52 PM
1

I like smart and well-spoken women, but unfortunately they aren't into me. I really have a success with women with daddy issues though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:39 PM
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Validation doesn't come in a vacuum. I can tell myself that I don't need to do shit, because I am satisfied with myself from within, but then I'd be a loser who's failing in the foreign land.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:10 AM
5

Women simply don't need advice. Their dating problems are either overexaggerated or not something astounding
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 07:43 AM
0

I honestly never measured mine because I'm afraid of what I'll find. All I know is that I can wrap both of my hands around it and it gets the job done, aside from that, ignorance is bliss is my policy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:48 PM
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For instance we don't know why did her marriage ended, it was possible she contributed to it, or how she was looking for a partner after divorce, there's many factors in play
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:43 AM
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Not at all, I think she made some bad choices along the way and wound up like this
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:23 AM
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Yes, unfortunately for her, her time has run out, but it doesn't mean she didn't make any choices up until this point. Don't get me wrong, it's sad that she can't do anything, but it wasn't decided for her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:21 AM
5

If you loved Caesar salad for breakfast, but for some reason you couldn't afford it anymore, would you be satisfied with forever eating a bunch of soybeans?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:03 AM
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It's not a no brainer. It's either your child or someone else's, she wants her own, not god knows whose
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:59 AM
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Not really, your own child and someone else's are two different instances
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:53 AM
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I refuse to believe she's a victim of circumstances. Yes, with how things are for her it sucks, but it definitely wasn't decided "for her", she's not a child anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:51 AM
1

F&F are grifters, plain and simple
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:35 PM
2

This is pretty much the answer op is looking for. Excellent wording
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:22 PM
1

It's not something you think about when it's your first relationship as well as the first woman who "put out" for me in such manner , but I agree. Boundaries are necessary, even though they are hard to enforce if you don't have much room to say "no"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:00 PM
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My relationship with her was batshit crazy from the start till finish. I stayed mostly because I was afraid I won't have sex if I leave, the sex part of the relationship was probably the best of it. She was a major control freak and I abided by her wishes, stupidly enough. Think shit like me bringing all the checks with me to her place and showing her my bank account so that she could count if I'm not lying. In the end, she cheated on me and I was happy beyond belief to end this. Whoever wishes …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:29 PM
2

Yes, absolutely, but I disagree with you on the reasoning. The main reason is that you don't have enough information to what's going on on her side of things so you need to assume the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:59 PM
1

When I mean fat, I mean "can't do basic tasks, have a wheelchair because I can't walk, didn't shower for x days because I can't" fat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:14 PM
2

We need to figure out this code That's literally what PUA is about. Don't reinvent the wheel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:16 AM
3

Tell her you need some time to know her better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:19 PM
9

22M Doesn't matter as long as she's pretty, but not younger than 19 and not older than 40
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:59 PM
6

Play the game, acting aloof/signalling disinterest are many names for abundance mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:55 PM
1

Then I'd have some fun, than I'll aim for the career, preferably where I could utilize my looks to my advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:39 AM
1

Am I psychopathic woman or am I not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:32 AM
1

An important question: Am I psychopathic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:27 AM
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You just caught feelings for her and she turned you down. You suggested gf/bf after just one date which isn't something good, from the RP perspective, you signalled to her that you are desperate enough to try to "lock her down" after one hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:45 AM
1

But they coined the term and were able to find it happening in real life (Blue Pill Example)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:27 AM

I didn't have as much shock because it just explained what I've already witnessed, but RP expanded on it and gave me a better framework as to how approach dating. It literally solved my virginity problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:53 PM
1

She's right in the sense that as much as RP developed concepts (AF/BB, Hypergamy, 80/20, etc), it didn't create a single framework on attractiveness both male/female (I included male because the debate as to what is more important among money/looks/status are still relevant) or where do you draw the line with hypergamy because we all want the best partners
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 08:49 PM
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I didn't think I'd say this, but your criticism is spot on. There are no consistent criterias that RP developed outside of the concepts Edit for CMV purposes: Even though you pointed out flaws in managing RP talking points, the concepts are valid nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:27 PM
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Preach my brotha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:49 PM
2

Actually no, it just that so many men are deemed unattractive, so that any message not sent to top 20% counts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:26 PM
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It would be ok if it wasn't reoccurring. It's not that a woman dated an abuser once and then wised up and stopped, it's that she will repeatedly go for the nastiest men and then be perplexed to her consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:25 PM
1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:19 PM
0

Not exactly, but I seriously doubt that suddenly she stops dating abusive guys simply because they give her tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:18 PM
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Men go out of their way to make woman's life worse You are not that important for that to happen Men criticize us So do women. It's not okay to call a woman fat but it's okay to body shame men for literally everything. Manlet, small dick energy, etc... None of those things are censored and yet somehow men are bad? Having a relationship with men is dangerous The same can be said in reverse. When you enter a relationship you need to gamble if she even tells you the truth she finds attractive as 80…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:16 PM
0

And if woman considers you unattractive with 80% of probability despite everything she says, it could be considered as gaslighting to even get into relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:39 PM
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Hitting/physical force, emotional abuse like love bombing, gaslighting, intentionally neglecting the other person, sexual abuse such as coercion, stuff like that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:31 PM
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With all those stories about "abusive ex", yes, they do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:05 PM
2

I don't hate women, but to ignore literally everything to pamper them is just dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:37 PM
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It's true that FDS became less popular and now regulated, however the same advice can be seen on tik tok under any female "gurus". I'm sorry but being called out doesn't mean much. Her career wasn't impeded by it, she is still one of the most prominent rappers out there. If it was a man, he would be cancelled, but since she is a woman, she got a pass on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:32 PM
3

No, women's advice is garbage like "be yourself", "you can wait for it to happen", etc. The best men's possible advice is Red Pill advice: hit the gym, up your game, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:25 PM
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It's victim blaming in it's purest form
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:23 PM
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Chadfish did prove it when a literal nazi received more matches than any average guy will ever have, or how self admitted pedophile had women saying hello to him first, personality is just a meme at this point, looks matter far more. Even Halo effect is a thing for a reason, that a pretty guy will be perceived as someone with better personality Busy drooling over the hottest women in the area But then you have "Are we dating the same guy" sites made by women or data that women consider 80% of gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:22 PM
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Well, FDS is by far the biggest group of such women, but among celebrities you can point at Cardi B , that admitted that she used to drug and rob men, but noone speaks about it because it's empowering (I guess). If you want to see an advice on social media, look no further than Boss Bitches. Or this pearl. Empowering language to justify cheating on her bf with her rapist: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5510934/woman-reveals-cheated-boyfriend-man-raped-her/amp/ Or this pea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:11 PM
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Chadfish has proven that personality is a meme, taste in women isn't something you can actively enforce, aside from looks, because dating dynamics are stacked too much against men. Social ineptness is a problem, yes, but it's just keeps getting worse because when you face countless rejections, it's not going to be resolved in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:46 PM
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But it's not a catch 22 that op talks about. Even if women have their problems, they can say "I hate all men", openly find the most unhinged gold digging advice possible without any pushback
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:42 PM
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That's why you should never listen to dating advice from women. You gotta approach anywhere you feel comfortable regardless how it might look on the outside
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:31 PM
3

So are women How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:30 PM
1

I mean duh, Nice guys Finish last, it's well known
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 12:14 PM
1

I'm going in with initial expectation of three dates, but it doesn't mean it's fixated number that doesn't change. I'd easily break this threshold if strong chemistry is present or she's not that experienced herself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:52 PM
2

And this poor shoemaker is privileged when compared to ukrainian soldier in Bakhmut, so what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:18 AM
2

CMV post that actually changed somebody's mind? That's new
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:13 AM
5

Joan of Arc all the way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:46 PM
2

No, he needs them if the girl follows OP's advice and waits for sex with him
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:44 PM
3

Strawman argument. If a girl is attracted to a man, chances are, the tactic will work. Maybe it won't work, but then a guy doesn't have any self respect to stick around for something other men got quicker
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:02 PM
3

Yeah, it's a politically correct name for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:27 AM
4

The reason it works is because a person doesn't have a full information about your dating life, so while your claim is true when you are talking about a rational girl without an emotional attachment to you and with full knowledge about your dating successes, in reality such information is usually unannounced, so this tactic still holds up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:26 AM
7

A PUA tactic that signals that a woman is replaceable to you, so if she wants to keep you around she better do something
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:27 AM
9

Walking away is the clearest dreadgame you can possibly do. I agree with you on leaving her, but if you really want to pump, do the dread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:33 AM
14

That's the reason a guy needs to employ dreadgame, to cut off this bs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:14 AM
1

Does this advice exist outside of red pill? Yes, but in incredibly small portion. Look at the common advice on the biggest subreddits, you will find some bs like "you need a better personality" and other extreme blue pilled stuff, which is ridiculous. Red Pill actually puts an emphasis on the self improvement, something that BP never did
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:52 AM
1

I doubt they do, it's incredibly passive advice that encourages stochastic approach to dating. If anyone were to compare these two, Red Pill will give you a much more manageable tenet of things to look out for and use
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:49 AM
2

I am glad I managed to convince you otherwise 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:46 AM
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The key difference and possibly the main reason I'd subscribe to their ideas is the fact that Red Pill advice actually works. "Just be yourself", "there's someone for everyone", "you'd make one lady very happy" is a load of blue pilled garbage, that doesn't work. Maintaining frame and preselection without any help from other rp tools like dreadgame, will beat any Blue Pill advice on the count to three So no, it's not just a women hating movement, even though I have to acknowledge that some part …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:11 AM
7

No, women can't. Supposed 6 sense doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:29 PM
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Unfortunately for you, women's preferences are too specific, so this advice is here to stay
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:29 PM
0

Dating is actually okay if you follow red pill advice and employ pua techniques, otherwise noone should even bother
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 06:12 PM
1

I'm not, I really think that way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:27 AM
4

They don't romanticize men in general, rather the ability to rack up body count and having your shit together There's an entire subsection of trp that is called Alpha Fucks/Beta Buxxs, which blames Beta Bucks for being dumb, naive idiot for falling "believe all women" fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:58 PM
1

Feminism was born in my country So, I'm guessing USA? If yes, then idk what to say because I didn't get the sense that it's some hot take there, but maybe it's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:14 PM
4

From where I'm from this is common knowledge, right where I am now it's still common knowledge, I wonder where are you at that you think everything's that bad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:09 PM
1

I guess this is what gaslighting by feminists does to society
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:04 PM
10

It's true, but your post is about who's more likely to stay: a stranger or your husband? I thought it's common knowledge that a husband is far more likely to stay than some stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:02 PM
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Isn't it common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:57 PM
1

She can equally have insta page and tinder page and on both of them promote only fans, it's not that afar from each other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:12 PM
1

I'd ask her why she did it. There's a big difference in doing it for validation and doing it for money. If it's for validation, recreational use only; If it's for money and I have really strong chemistry with her, I guess I'll look into it, but I'd be more cautious than usual
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:43 AM
3

Bro, you have no clue wtf are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:33 AM
13

Women will vehemently defend Beta Bucks through any means necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 08:27 AM
1

I was saying it honestly. Hitting gym really helped me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:49 PM
1

Your claim doesn't have any real evidence, especially your claim about many women being invisible. Here's a 60 year old grandma slaying on tinder, but under the logic of your post she must have been ghosted by everyone https://youtu.be/yhkZpz_0aFk
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:06 AM
1

Perhaps I chose wrong words, so I'll try to rephrase. In your post you said "One of them said that a man is "as loyal as his options" " and then proceeded to paint every man as a potential cheater Instead of asking many unrelated questions, I'll just ask one, Why do you paint women as righteous by default? Plus, what you've described isn't something new. I believe it's called Madonna-Whore complex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:19 AM
1

A desire for her will still be there, so it's ok. AF/BB os worse because man receives zero desire. Also, you go on long and hard about the second option, but what about girl in this situation? Does she marry her first option or second option too? And what about guys who were invisible to women too and just like her started having some success only recently? You say you don't want to shit on men, but then you proceed to take a word of one man and paint it with everybody else
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:48 AM
0

I like playing with fire, so I'll absolutely pick attention over being invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:17 PM
2

I'd argue that people who really screw it for everyone are simps. They give everything for free, are fine with abuse as long as it's coming from women, and they will literally bend over backwards just to satisfy a woman's whim. You should be blaming them, bot me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:30 PM
1

I shouldn't be. The dating scene was a mess before I entered it, it's simply being adaptive to it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:26 PM
0

No, it's not ok in both of the instances. I don't think your analogy applies here, because you don't actually steal anything from a girl. Better analogy would be a flashy conman that overexaggerates his product. And yeah, here, if I were the customer in that situation, I wouldn't be ok with it, but its on me to not fall for that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:24 PM
-1

Lying is wrong in most of the circumstances, here, however, it's okay because odds are stacked against you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:06 PM
0

I mean, it's not, but there's nothing to actually stop them, unless a supposed victim had his fun too and knows what zero attraction looks like, the knowledge of which he can obtain through, you guessed it, racking up bodies by any means necessary There's also a huge difference between marriage and a hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:02 PM
0

What do you mean by the role? The role of guy that successfully gets laid? You're literally about to become one, what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:56 PM
-2

End a relationship, before it's too late
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:41 PM
7

There's a distinction to be made with simply knowing that PUA exists and actually being aware of the tactics used. Even if many women know that it exists, I doubt that equally many will be able to deal with it like they think they can
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:39 PM
-7

There's nothing wrong with lying to get sex. Any average guy that does it, simply adapted to the circumstances of the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:36 PM
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I think it's true that a number of women who are somewhat aware of PUA has grown, but it doesn't mean every woman knows it. I'd argue that a guy can get a "pass" if he does it well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:32 PM
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It's good that you're no longer that guy. I have to admit, I've heard about it before I landed my first date, so I was keeping my eyes open on that possibility and now I only suggest coffee dates. I didn't know that video game bars exist to be honest, I guess I'll look into it. Prostitutes will get you only so far because there's no desire in their eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:05 AM
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Hypothetically, a good standard would be an expectation of reciprocation of your effort
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:25 AM
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AWALT thing. Red Pill is effective in the most instances, but it can't give you the smartest/prettiest/best girl out there because you need to have a game on the different level to score a W with them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:16 AM
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Focus on yourself bro. Hit the gym, up your looks, read a few books and you'll be slaying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:11 AM
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Two reasons: I was in the relationship once and I saw that it's not really a fair deal as it requires a lot of effort on my part and putting up with batshit crazy stuff from my partner, so I'd rather just avoid it. I think I'm too young (22) for a relationship. I'd rather try to have as many FWB's as possible and actually have some fun instead of having something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:07 AM
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Whiteknight in the wild
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:00 AM
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I think you're just mad that BB managed to slay
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:55 AM
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In all honesty, percentage of women who heard about PUA is laughable. Also, "temperament" isn't something that shuts down PUA, because it just means you have to use PUA tools differently and that's pretty much it. Also, no, women's deception isn't something excusable. I've been that guy and I always thought it would be silly to get mad I'm not going to say out loud what that screams of, I'll just say that me and many guys won't tolerate this bs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:35 AM
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Your example is valid, this is a problem and guys would leave if they discovered the truth. However, what sets your example apart from PUA is intentions. A guy who employs PUA has intention of getting laid and he does exactly that. Dread game, negging, etc. are just descriptions of the process of getting laid and when they are done right, they will work. An average guy has so little success in dating that I think it's completely justified for him to learn the game and operate in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:40 AM
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I fail to see where is the "problem" part, that a subset of guys get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:23 AM
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Здорово с кошкой вышло, даже не знаю что и сказать) Вот, в моей семье тоже много кто не верил, но мой брат был абсолютно уверен что начнется. Вот он понял это будто раньше всех и слинял за границу, хоть и поругался с папой из-за этого (до войны казалось пустой тратой денег и просто паникерством). Но кроме него, в это не верил никто
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:08 PM
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Я тоже за вас двоих рад, вот только кошку жалко. Это тоже очень тяжело, не преуменьшай свои потери (не только из-за кошки) Я если честно тоже не думал что война начнется, я почему-то верил что обойдется. Я так ошибался, что даже не верится.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:00 PM
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Я счастливчик, я успел выехать до войны в универ за рубежом. Тревожно конечно, часть семьи и многие друзья остались, но ничего не поделаешь, время от времени делаю видеозвонки и переписываюсь с ними. А вы с мужем как? Я так понял успели выехать до этих электронных повесток
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:43 PM
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Меня ничего на это не навело, я по сути пальцем в небо ткнул. А так нет, я не из России, я из Украины
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:36 PM
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This is the only place that has discussions about things I've personally observed. Another point is that on other subreddits there are a lot of the same takes, which are blatantly incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:25 PM
1

Ты одна из Z-етников? Мне просто интересно
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:21 PM
1

I have the exact same mindset about women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:16 PM
3

Using deception isn't rape because if that's the case, by your definition a guy who was taken advantage of by taken out on a free meal date has been raped
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:14 PM
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I subscribe to the Red Pill, but I've never treated it as an ideology. It's just a great set of tools that greatly helps navigating and maximizing outcome out of the dating. It helps you better understand what to do really, especially now in the current dating. The type of guys who subscribe to the Red pill is diverse, but the main groups would be divorced men or young guys who actually want to gain experience and have some fun. To be honest I agree with you that tradcons who say that they are R…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:48 AM
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Plenty have. I have. Now what? Even if you faced rejections I sincerely believe that it absolutely doesn't scale to the amount of rejection the average guy faces See women as a people, not a monolith I actually do see them as people. I don't know why you think I don't. It's literally what redpill is, seeing women as people, which like all people have flaws Bar is the one size fits all thing I simply gave an example where I used bar as a setting. It could be tinder, park, ice skating, whatever. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:10 PM
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Regardless of how it sounds, women are on the receiving end, they don't face rejections, they simply don't deal with a lot of stuff that guys have to. For example, let's say a woman was approached in the bar in the best manner possible. Given that this is really good interaction with a guy, which advice out of it she could give? Maybe about approaching, maybe about look of the man, maybe about things like who paid for what, but nothing else. A guy, however, could give advice on how to deal with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:56 PM
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Women still have to be improved enough to want to date a guy It doesn't give them much insight on what the guy do to appeal to them, since they do exactly none of it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:54 AM
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I don't know, you tell me. I just don't believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:29 PM
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Them being the target audience doesn't mean women in general are able to give good advice. Your analogy with hollywood is good, but there's another side of the coin where directors know exactly what to do and they cash a bank. My point is that since most women can do literally nothing and still get a date, therefore they can't give a good advice. Women don't put themselves out there as much as guys do, Women don't have to present themselves nowhere near as much as guys do, women don't need to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:12 PM
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Lol, women are wonderful effect in the wild. You assume that his partner did nothing wrong simply because she's a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:02 PM
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No offense, but why do you think women will be able to give a good advice in a first place? They just wait to be approached. They just wait for someone to shoot their shot with them. They don't put themselves out there and don't present themselves. Guys don't have free validation and it's guys who have to do all the escalation work. Why do you think women are able to give any meaningful advice despite having dating served on the silver platter?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:58 PM
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I don't think defeatist attitude is an issue here. I just think that if people were to choose whom to help, it will always be women, no matter what. There's also an issue with vagueness of the message said by men's rights group and the fact that in order for their message to be heard, they need to seek approval of women which is ridiculous. I was fond of Left Wing Male Advocates for some time and you'll see quite literally everything there: acknowledging the problems, discussion of articles, cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:50 PM
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https://youtu.be/yhkZpz_0aFk This is video of 60 year old grandma slaying on tinder. Do you really think men's standards actually exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:38 PM
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I think no because most people just don't give a shit. You can point out anything, but women are seen as more valuable and in more need of protection, so between man and woman, woman will be chosen almost every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:36 PM
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Source: trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:39 AM

They're all attractive for sure, but I wouldn't say they're all ideal in attractiveness. I don't doubt these gals spin almost everyone's heads, but I wouldn't date/marry them because all of them are probably very high maintenance, but one night stands? Any day. I'd argue that most guys that follow these women are doing it because they (women) are pleasant to their eyes. However, if I did have this kind of money I'd only date them, because it's more convenient lifestyle with big money than marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:30 AM
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I'm confused. Are you asking how to be less attractive? If that's the case, the fastest route is to be annoying. Resting bitch face, dragging voice, "I have a bf", one liners as a response, be unnecessarily rude
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:31 PM
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Bro, the exact same post was made on PPD some time ago with exact same examples and theme. Did you copypaste it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:25 PM
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You described one part of it and yes, in the choice you've provided I'd choose 5 matches. However, the situation with 90% means that these 90 guys were attractive enough to have a game and options, so you accidentally portrayed red pill talking point about 80/20 rule. And on top of that, most guys won't have 5 matches, they would have 3 at best with varying amount of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:04 AM
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But you have a choice between being single and not, while men don't. Degrading as it is, despite having chances to be used you also have higher chances for better experience because you have more choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:57 AM
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I honestly believe that the state modern dating is in right now absolutely justifies lying about intentions to get sex and yes, since dating heavily favours women they're in part responsible for it too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 10:54 AM
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Bro, the struggle never actually disappears. It's not men's fault to adapt to current dating climate by lying to women, it's entirely women's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:55 AM
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No, men have it worse in almost every step of the way. Rejection, competition, ignorance are all the problems men deal with, not women. I've even made a thread once about experience of ugly girls, and despite it being tragic in some cases, most women actually managed to find a relationship in spite of their looks (By most women I mean most women in the thread), but if you were to compare it to the average guy experience, I'd rather be pumped and dumped than face radio silence until late twenties…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:50 AM
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Peace to you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:44 AM
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It's just my opinion, but from what I've seen in the US, if you're gay or lesbian, etc. you kinda being put in the box of things you have to agree on and what you must do. For instance, if you're gay, you need to agree with LGBT movement on all of it stances, because otherwise you just look ridiculous. There are also things that are considered "gay" and what you need to do or how to act if you're one, basically reinforcing the worst stereotypes about gays. So this "box" is quite small for gays a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:46 PM
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I think I would just look for reasons a girl made OF in the first place to say honestly. If it has something to do with daddy issues, then no way. If it's not, then ok. I can also say that if I have serious chemistry with a woman and I also find she has daddy issues, I hope my rational part wins and pulls me away. I don't really understand why you're bothered by it. The overwhelming majority of guys are bluepilled and will overlook it out of ignorance. Why you're worried about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:35 PM
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I was thinking about it too. Redpill is nothing but 100% truth, the only problem people have with it is language and representation of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:20 PM
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Nah, it's okay for daughter because she this type of lifestyle is relatively attainable I don't know why you think someone will come back in 40, it's just nonsense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:36 AM
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If it's about being homosexual, then ok for daughter, bruh for son If it's about being transgender, it's just bruh in general, cuz I don't understand nor like it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 10:13 AM
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I can't wait to see "personality" slayers to confirm balding, aging, short, scrawny introvert with great personality slays
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:55 AM
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Preach my brotha Misogyny detector doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:43 AM
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You are absolutely right. I honestly think those women who disagree with it are just virtue signalling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:37 AM
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It literally is. One guy bull fucks her while gal has bf. It's cuckoldry, and any man who isn't bull doesn't deserve respect
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:03 AM
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Most men aren't cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:25 AM
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It's not really entitlement to not want to be left behind by wife beater or drug dealer in terms of success
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:11 AM
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1-3 smash 4-7 pass 8,9 smash I'd seriously date 9,8,2
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:24 PM
1

I don't see where the entitlement here exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:02 PM
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I don't see obsession. What I see, however, is just a "I want it too". You see how the most douchiest mfs get women, be them drug dealers, wife beaters, etc. and compare how much they have success (slim to none) to theirs (well above) and ask why is that. That's it And yeah if you put minimal effort, you just can get away with so much that it's breathtaking. And to answer your question, I don't think after accepting it they will be fine with it. I think they will be red pilled after that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:23 PM
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Looks vs Personality has been solved in favour of Looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 06:35 AM
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You get dates, average guys don't, hence it's easier for women. End of the debate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:51 PM
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Intelligence all the way. It's underrated how much intelligent women are more interesting than not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:48 AM
3

Google picture of Hitler with a dog
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:33 AM
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But they were with exes. They got her excited as well as into bed. Compared to the average guy, this supposed ex is doing better than him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:35 AM
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Idk about others but I vouch for that. It's really about practicality, not much else
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:27 AM
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No, but before. They loved hanging out with him. I take it as they did so in the past. So, before plumbing, when he was popular among your group, he was successful. It's status, not personality
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:59 PM
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I'd say that a lot of what you're saying is true. However, I'd point out one thing about humbleness, is that they are already preestablished, so they don't have to go out of their way to portray themselves as alpha. Someone cited Messi here and how humble he is. I'd argue that it's great that star of his caliber is humble. But noone would call him alpha if he wasn't a preestablished superstar from years of successful playing football. The same with yours and mine examples of true alphas. Noone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:25 PM
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Garbage take imo. You need results, period. If you don't get bitches, do something, don't be bloopie "be yourself" Billie
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:13 PM
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For what purpose? Just because someone else will like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:11 PM
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Sure, these words don't, but dread game, spinning plates, good physique, abundance mindset, etc. absolutely do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:10 PM
3

Any proof besides gaslighting and dismissal?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:08 PM
3

You realise it could be reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:07 PM
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If your words are true, than it's not personality, it's status
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:05 PM
1

So, unironically "be yourself"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:56 PM
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All of the responses so far are literally "be polite and pretty". They don't do shit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:31 PM
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So... Be polite and pretty? Very hard, omg, can't imagine myself going through that misery
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:21 PM
1

Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:05 PM
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I'm not sure it's sustainable in the long run to be honest. There's better proposals in the thread like playing with hair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:51 AM
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I honestly have no idea. From my current relationship, I'd say trust is romantic af, maybe some little things, like living small letters with "Love u" or that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:13 PM
4

What the fuck... That's both funny and sad at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 11:02 PM
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Men having a preference in the bodycount is insecurity Women having a standard in something a man can't change - standard Did I get it right, Op?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:59 PM
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You know... Top 20 percent get everything... everyone else is left with their nose
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:56 PM
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I fail to see how Alpha widow and "the one who..." are so different, when Alpha widow is literally longing for "the one". Why do you think they're so different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:53 PM
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So it exists, just not purely about bed, but in more general sense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:26 PM
1

Great post. Agree with everything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:27 PM
1

Why would you even suggest that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:45 PM
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And what if he's tried dating apps and found them too stressful for his quiet life? Other two could work, but not sure about hands thing He could be labeled as weirdo by friends about his friend thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 01:58 PM
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I understand your point, however I chose Kevin Samuels as someone less extreme than Tate, because your statement implied that guys like me (young men) are so vile and misogynistic that they'd choose Tate or Samuels just because they're rapist or tolerating abuse. I don't know much about Aba and Preach, but Destiny is a cuck, therefore his advice should be ignored. It sucks that by choosing not to listen to Destiny, you're bolstering people like Samuels, but between this and listening to a cuck, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:34 PM
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I am not sure why you try to paint them this bad, but I'll bite. It will sound this fringe when you pick Tate as an example. You can take someone far less fucked up (Kevin Samuels for example) and it will make more sense: ...filled with men so depraved already that they'll praise a man in a suit than a man in an open relationship. And yeah, the vast majority isn't comfortable with sharing girlfriend, aka being a cuck. What advice could a cuck possibly give you that will be useful? It's self evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:56 PM
1

Maybe...young men should decide what to watch themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:43 PM
0

I know only Noel from your list and he's really great choice tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:45 PM
3

And you never wondered how do they have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:42 PM
2

Nothing you said disproves AF/BB. Alphas did put some work to becoming alphas, sure, but it doesn't mean the phenomena doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:06 AM
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So you would be fine with a group that was actively doxxing women, sharing their private info to what to put pressure while dating, etc, just because they say good things about good women and most women had zero feedback? Like lol, who are you trying to convince here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:50 AM
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Because...they chose worse
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:40 AM
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Women choose, men take what they can get. This is why this double standard persists
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:32 AM
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It's honestly tough to pinpoint proof of AF BB, because the phenomena describes continuous situation that would require some spying on people to prove it, however it's possible to find indirect proof of it. Leaving anecdotes as a proof, indirect evidence that I was able to find is this: While more attractive males tend to pursue a short-term mating strategy, more attractive females tend to pursue a more long-term mating strategy. Additionally, younger females are more likely to pursue a short-te…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 09:10 AM
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Cheating is always bad, but what is setting AF/BB apart from others is how it occurs. A BB can have sex with a woman, albeit it being duty sex or starfish one. A BB will be in love with a woman, but she isn't. It's incredibly one sided relationship with all power concentrated in the woman's hands, where a BB gives her everything but she returns less than she did for a Ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:54 AM
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They aren't mad that it's smart or whatever. What they're mad at is fact that even if they marry, Billy Beta doesn't do it for her so she might only seem loyal when in fact she'd turn around and cheat on him with literally anyone who isn't Beta and, since a guy has literally no power/knowledge to prevent it, a woman will either cheat on him, divorce him, ruin his life, etc. just because he is beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:02 AM
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Nah, only an idiot would make a possibility of ribot leaving the guy, because he would lose to those who didn't make this feature. Lol, how blue pilled you must be to implement hypergamy into sex robot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:10 PM
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Honestly it just comes down to how enhanced the robots are. If the robot is an unimaginable beauty that you can talk to, don't feel an absence of consciousness, etc. AND she engages with you in enthusiastic sex while tge act itself is great... Then it will finally balance the dating market to make it even
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:05 PM
1

I guess it could apply to some women, but it's probably far from norm
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:41 PM
1

Redpill itself doesn't get you laid, it's all about how you apply it in the dating. If a dude is redpilled and actually followed and used it, he will get far more success than a blue pill any day, but the fact that you know that Game exists doesn't mean you will take part in it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:39 PM
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20%, 1 out of 5 red pills, "easy to please" 1) 19-35 y.o. 2) Not married/no children 3) Asian, white, hispanic 4) Include overweight, exclude obese 5) 4'11 - 6'6 6) Any income Seems good to me. I hate to be homebreaker or someone like that, I honestly refuse to believe the best girl possible is going to be a cheater, so yeah, strong preference for her being single
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:26 PM
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I am willing to bet my money on her waiting with him for months
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:13 AM
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He attracted her through his personality! What a lucky guy he is!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:12 AM
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Lol, not in a million years. I'm not even sure that is a real question, it's a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:55 AM
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I can say the same about women, just a bit different https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7dmiuu/women_and_refugees_a_compilation/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7tft6e/where_is_me_too_for_feminists_importing_poor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:19 AM
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No, what I meant by queen is some chick with overinflated ego
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:47 PM
1

Somehow men attack other men even more often and somehow men don't make a scapegoat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:45 PM
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Based lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:41 PM
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I am RP and I like women. It's just explains a lot of stuff and makes a few observations on what your average "queen" does. By knowing what your so-called "queen" does, you can actually look for real quality women, that are truly deserving the title
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:36 PM
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Again, you point out at example where a woman is head over heels for the guy. Your list stops making sense when it's "free meal" for her or she's not that invested in the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 06:24 PM
0

He is a living definition of whiteknight
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:55 PM
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Honestly, everything you listed seems rather overexaggerated. Like, for instance, many women completely get away with one line texts, that neither cute nor funny. Or when it comes to sex, do you know how many women get away with starfish sex? Hint: so fucking many. On the top of it, you're describing situation where a woman is head over heels for the guy, when in reality a lot of women will have Beta bux on their hands to whom they aren't nearly attracted as you try to sell here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:47 PM
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Brilliant post. I honestly don't understand women that insist that it's not how op outlined in the post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 05:23 PM

Most men aren't psychos to be this cruel. If anything, I'd say men would rather help a woman than other man, but maybe it's just me. By the way, if someone enters relationship, can't they figure out what other person frequents? Vetting is a good stuff, but you sound paranoid to be frank
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:17 PM

Why only two though? What about abusive guys having more success than not, kill all men types? I'm also curious to have I been posted there or not About Nazi, I guess you didn't get what I was saying. There were experiments where guys put on pretty picture with horrible bio, like the one with nazi bio with Hitler's quote, the Pedophile one and they got many more matches than your average guys? It just proves that "personality" is a meme
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:13 PM

I linked this post to illustrate the point where if the roles were reversed there would be outrage Imagine if there was a post like "Women are getting SA'd, why would I care" with body that states that men shouldn't help in any way and it getting awards and a few thousand of upvotes. It's ridiculous to even assume that it could be true, however it's ok if women are the ones saying things like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:07 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/xwdbzr/why_we_should_worry_about_lonely_men/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button It's one of the many examples I can find. 2,8k upvotes, 1 award, I am sure I can find more, it's just the first one I've found
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:19 PM
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I have so many questions to your post and your replies to comments For instance, why do you think the number of men here can be counted as millions? Don't you think there's too little activity for that number? Do you think guys should avoid women who say "kill all men" and things like that? Was I posted in one of your groups? I'm genuinely curious What do you say to the known fact that more abusive and narcissistic guys have more success with women than others? Also, I'm curious to what would yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 11:57 AM
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How this is an incl content? In what part?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:13 AM
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Hitting the gym is a good start. Muscles aren't everything, but they are the basic requirement
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:08 AM
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Nah, he just says that women aren't this much better single, no-one denies that happy single people exist
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 07:31 PM
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AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 06:38 PM
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People in the relationship want to be appreciated? Whaaat?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 10:24 AM
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Convince them I sincerely doubt that it's even possible. Feminism's identify is that of a victim's. Even acknowledging that their supposed oppressors have difficulties, is rather net positive to them by their own logic. You also point out the word "genuine" as if there's no real arguments on the male side of things, which is blatantly false. Hate rhetoric in MRA I agree with you on the rhetoric part. It's present even in the most uncalled for times, however it would be ridiculous to think that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 08:56 AM
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Hollow, meaningless existence Lol. Pretty much everything you listed (money, fitness, women) is just a status and yeah. If you think striving towards a status is worse than being beta bux, so be it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:25 AM
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Because he was probably attractive enough for it look-wise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 01:03 AM
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I don't think RP causes it. It gives you a more realistic view on the dating as a whole and explains it's concepts that an average guy is more than likely to encounter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:07 AM
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Preach my brotha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:04 AM
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It's not self abuse in any way if it works. Blue pill advice leads to void of results, red pill leads into pool of them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:01 AM
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It's simple math. More options lead to the higher chance of finding quaility
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:10 PM
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Forgive me for being sceptical, but what does "average looking" constitute for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:27 AM
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I guess I'll just clarify it in the first comment, but the point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:03 AM
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True. But they don't even show up on the date. What I'm talking about is a situation where a girl says she won't put out sex for the guy on this date and guy stands up and leaves. I honestly doubt anyone with low confidence or anxiety are going to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:57 PM
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What? If a guy has, let's say, 3 options on tinder, he won't be able to stand up in the middle of the date and leave, no matter how much he would've wanted to, because it would mean self sabotaging 33% of his total options, whereas for the more hot guy, who has, let's take more moderate 10 options, this one girl isn't as valuable to him, so he can afford to stand her up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:50 PM
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In almost any thread like "Why women don't date anymore", you can find a comment that they were stood up. Why is that? Because obviously if a guy doesn't have a lot of options, he can't afford to stood up a girl. He has too few options to do it. And given how most women quite literally classify the vast majority of guys as unattractive, the only category of guys who have this many options to pull that off are the hot ones
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:48 PM
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I think it comes from the things like a girl saying she got stood up on the date after saying she won't put out sex on the date, and, since the only guys who can afford to do that are hot ones, there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:26 PM
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Ah, I see and no, I don't. They're just people, some are nasty, some are good. Sometimes it gets frustrating with just how little investment they can get results in dating, but it's frustrating, not something to hate for
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 03:36 PM
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Idk what you mean precisely by "good aspects", so I will list of what helped me: Gym, as I was hitting gym before, but not as disciplined/focused as I do now. It also explained pretty much everything I've seen so far (at least dating wise). Like, for instance, why the known drug addict got more attention from women than my academically very successful friend and so on. A bit of PUA definitely helped (I pirated The Game), it was more like a direction of how to do things, when you approach women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:54 PM
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Bro, I'm 22. All I can say is: Redpill all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:36 PM
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I honestly thought I was unattractive throughout my teenage years, but then my social setting has changed and my friend group too and only then I discovered, I'm not ugly actually, just average. It was such a surprise to me, I was beyond being relieved. After that it took me a several months (14 to be precise) to get laid, but I succeeded in the end. This last valentine's Day was the first one I received something on it, I'm sooo thrilled my work paid off I am obligated to point out that I start…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:14 PM
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Even in AF BB scenario, a man gets an ounce respect until divorce. Yes, it's not as much as "better" guy gets, but still
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:01 PM
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It would be true if, after sexual liberation, the vast majority of men without outstanding achievements were alone or without an ounce of respect from their partner ,which is untrue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:18 AM
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I agree with you on women having an intrinsic value, however since number of the achieving men is quite small, a girl would want to have something going for herself, because otherwise she is risking entering a relationship where she has no say over things. I'd also add that since this type of men was always small and the majority of guys still got at least some form of respect or validation from their wifes for doing less than outstanding achievements, it's safe to assume that the only guys who …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:07 PM
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It's not like most women achieved something admirable too, so it kinda evens out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:43 PM
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I'd expect her to run away or save yourself. It's on me to get up and fight, not on her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:48 PM
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Out of those refugees, women are largely married with her husband fighting the war. Since they probably don't know the language, they won't be able to stay there for long after war end. Besides, the good amount of refugees are elderly people, who unironically don't really do much for the economy, so it's not the end of the world if elderly people will resettle somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 06:55 AM
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The way I see your argument that it's mostly moral, RP doesn't need morals it can function without it. You want fun? Rp gives you tools to have it, nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:16 PM
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I think the best possible answer is to be a genuine, good friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:37 PM
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I'd say to her "I like to pretend I'm retarded"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:40 AM

I knew bluepillers wouldn't disappoint me with blaming men for everything again
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:06 PM

How would you explain this massive gap then? Twice as much men are single then women, how would you explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:03 PM

Holy shit , it really is!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:59 PM

Your comment is spot on. I guess the best thing the guys can do is to just chase money, while screwing everyone else over
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:52 PM

Well, where's all these people who saw these mythical average men having success? (I guess average chads describe it better)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:04 AM
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Why should someone's perception of matter if you finally have success? Besides, I fail to see how it's wrong. Toxic? Maybe, but wrong? I don't see the reason why it's wrong. He merely adapted his strategy, nothing more
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:50 AM
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Look at it this way: A guy literally is being himself, he's polite, kind, he's not in the best shape, but he's not fat either. He's average. He's not big on confrontation or arguments and he bought into idea that being good is a "bare minimum" to have a good chances with women. He would be relaxed, since he's already good, kind, polite. Time passes, he has zero success. So, his approach with kindness and respect failed IF he tries/learns how to be more rude and obnoxious, he will have sex out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:08 AM
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It's not as easy as you think. I don't know any guy who legitimately hates or likes lying to the girls If that's what it took to get women no men like you would be bitching on these platforms I guess virgin shaming is fine when a woman does it, but thankfully, times have changed. I started getting sex after I took the red pill and learned some pua stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 12:01 AM
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You didn't get his point at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:49 PM
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No guy can afford to act like a girl. If his first instinct is to cry, than he will be hopeless, because unlike girls, he will have to do stuff alone, without venting to anyone, that's why he can't be like a girl. If a guy starts to just vent to his friends without any solution seeking, he will lose friends, not gain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:46 PM
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Not a fan, but I think I get the appeal he has to men. You have everyone shouting at how bad being "masculine" is and even words "be a man" are often followed with "Wtf does that mean?". No wonder the guy who pedals very archaic, but clear idea of being the man will thrive. You also have guys who were told that being good, polite, nice, gentlemanly is what gets women. Since this approach lends zero results, guys look elsewhere and see a guy who owns sportcars, mansions or whatever (idk, I just k…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:36 PM
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Acting like shit doesn't mean be an arrogant incel and try to guilt trip (or whatever) woman. You can employ dread game, negging, use her to your own benefit and to get yourself off, not being a gentleman , lying about things, etc. That kind of thing almost universally flies under the radar of any woman, unless of course you didn't put enough effort in either game or looks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:24 PM
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Probably yes, there's no way to confirm it unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:20 PM
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I take it you mistyped women, soo.. Women do appreciate kindness and all virtues No, they don't. If they did, misogynistic men and cheaters wouldn't have as much success compared to the more feminine guys than they do. It's observation of the RP that literally brought me into it, it's straight facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 11:19 PM
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Idk where you are, I guess I met an abnormal number of them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:10 PM
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Blue pill just can't handle the reality of such relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:20 AM
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If you ask woman for dating advice, she will give you an advice that works to attract some imaginary girl, but not her They all will be saying like they know if the guy is into pua/sexist/misogynist/fuckboy, but then all of them fly under the radar and end up successful with women They will say how they want x,y,z (for instance: emotional availability, for a guy to be nice, share their opinion, to be respectful, etc.), but then they will turn around and reward the exact opposite of what they say…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:14 AM
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Yes, it is, and there's no "but"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 09:02 PM
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Neither of it is okay, but RP is misogynistic largely due to feminism's tolerance of hatred on men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:55 PM
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It's not a flex, it's rather something basic. I'm yet to see feminism that is advocating for equality between the sexes to do something for men (in situations where inequality in the women's favour), and consequentially more radical types can take it as feminism hating men, so they will see it as an enemy and start harbouring hatred for it. There's no big math, just a view of someone who wants you to be down
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:13 PM
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My ideal: She is attracted to me and I'm attracted to her. She's independent and she's good at jokes. She should be progressive in the truest form of it and I'd also prefer for her to be outgoing and smart
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:06 PM
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Feminism has no issues with hating men, why RP should preach any love towards women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:53 PM
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I think the RP is largely misogynistic largely due to contingent of people there. Incels, lonely dudes, men after divorce or basically any guy that doesn't fit the feminism's narrative could be found there. However, I think these news or examples you gave could be considered as a fresh air in the today's society. You will constantly hear how all men are dumb, how sitting with your legs spread is misogynistic or any other bs like that from any outlet or media. So the news that portray women as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:49 PM
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Blue pill will never acknowledge women's fault on anything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:37 AM
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This, we're all stem from animals, if someone can play into "ooga-booga" thing, he'll win in the romantic sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:33 AM
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This comment should be awarded
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:28 AM
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Chadfish refutes your claim about bio. And don't tell me that women don't have lazy photos as their profile picture
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:05 AM
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To be fair, your point about relationships is valid, but I don't see the reason why would you go into one using RP. RP is shining when there's no commitment, or at least when you leverage it for sex, so you might want to go for fwb than relationship when using RP tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:50 AM
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Not really. Alcohol isn't banned, some weak drugs are still used in medicine and other stuff. It's not even to mention the half of population will be totally on board along with it. The only chance they can ban it is if they ban this early while it didn't properly develop and not many people have tried, but given enough time?... No way they are going to be able to do that. Guys would literally defend it together, cuz it's just that good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:41 PM
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Maybe this is the best thing to happen to men, ever My dude, this is heaven. You can literally do anything you want. I honestly hope that they will go further and make it even more immersive with experience and warmth, because it will make all this male thirst just vanish. Just fucking imagine... You wanted to fuck that milf, but never had a chance, enter the images and you can have everything with her. This is really the best thing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 11:33 PM
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It becomes a cult Hahahaha, guys understanding what actually happens in places they are excluded from isn't a cult, it's just opening previously closed curtains. It doesn't have a leader like a cult should, it doesn't have violence that hold them together. The fact that so many men sympathise with it means it's true. Hell even you say it, "would grow out of this" = gain money and/or status and have success on their own while others never do it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:44 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:32 PM
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100% true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:50 AM
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I can see and understand your point, however I would argue that differences are not that massive as they seem to be. For example, your average guy knows that his gf will be able to pull men at the minute's notice, so she is already employing dread game either with or without realising it. And there's other examples like this, for instance: Women perform shittests too and they aren't called abusive or manipulative for them. And it's not like she has to be any of those things, she can be just test…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 01:34 PM
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It's traits of personality, but personality itself isn't limited to them. It's also values and general lense of how you look at things at your life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:22 AM
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Nah, you can be a nazi chad and you will have success, just look at the chadfish and it will tell you everything you need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:01 AM
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Because if women were actually following what they preach and actually stopped dating misogynistic men, ideas like RP wouldn't have exploded in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:38 AM
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It's just wishful thinking. Narcissists and abusers gotten away with it for a long time, what makes you think women would step up now? Your good guy has zero luck in dating, your bad guy will find more success along with women doing mental gymnastics how they are "growing" from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:36 AM
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Now tell me what part of it your average blue pill guy doesn't face when it's coming from women Apparently it's healthy when women do this, but not when it's men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:26 AM
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Do they exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:12 AM
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Hook up material, and it's not even close I can't believe that a guy that is capable of hooking up isn't capable to secure relationship, in my understanding he has all the instruments in his disposal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 08:11 AM
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The takeaway would be this: if they are extremely insecure - run for the hills, if she's only a little bit insecure - it's ok, you can stay. When asked - deploy amused mastery or laugh it off Something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:44 AM
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Wow, great in-depth response
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:37 AM
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I see the suggestions, they are just rather similar than any different
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 07:31 AM
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To be fair, I was lurking here for a while but I didn't encounter anything related to this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:39 PM
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I'm curious, if you ever acted in this way, what was the "acceptable" answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:10 PM
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I have a problem of saying what's on my mind when they are asked and it usually ends up in arguments, so I wanted to ask for approaches
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:05 PM
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I'm sure you encountered them. Like, for instance, if a girl mentions something or acts in some specific way to see what would you do or how would you react
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:04 PM
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I just see through them really and recognise them from afar, but I keep encountering the problem that I give straight honest answers and they are usually end up in arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:02 PM
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I'm not asking for a guide, I'm rather asking on ways to approach such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:58 PM
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What I mean by them is, for example, when you are talking about each other's day and she brings up that she twerked at work or how some dude was hitting on her without telling how she ended it outright, that kind of thing, basically provocation or testing my attitude to certain things
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:55 PM
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Why would it be for something casual if you are likely to walk away after these when you're not in the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:54 PM
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What I mean by them is, for example, when you are talking about each other's day and she brings up that she twerked at work or how some dude was hitting on her without telling how she ended it outright, that kind of thing, basically provocation or testing my attitude to certain things
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:53 PM
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I see your point. If you don't mind my asking, what if you agree with the stance behind it, do you still lie or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:50 PM
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Idk, but I see it as a shit test and I was a bit taken aback by it, like what would I say here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:49 PM
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Haha, that's one way to deal with them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:47 PM
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I don't know what gave you the idea of me believing conspiracy theories, I am just saying that since almost everyone is insecure, it's very likely to encounter such thing, so I started a discussion about it. No pun intended
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:47 PM
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No, it's just that chances are that I find someone insecure is high, so I might like a girl, but she's insecure a bit so she would do them If that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:44 PM
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I guess they are the only ones who have the audacity to do sich a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:43 PM
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I doubt it works that way. What if you caught feelings? You already can't do what you preach in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:54 AM
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I'm looking for some advice on how to deal with them in general or in specific situations
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:52 AM
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Hahaha, but still, it's only one part of the question. Your tactic malfunctions when she starts bringing up other things like some random interaction with the dude or her mentioning something that contradicts what she said previously
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:23 AM
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It's definitely one way to go around it, but the problem here is that you leave the question unanswered and it's likely to come back
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:14 AM
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The problem with this approach is waiting out for the ideal. I doubt that many people have the ability to do that and since many people have their own shortcomings, you would need some advice on how to deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:12 AM
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It's just that the main critic of it, feminism, is on the left, so they in association as something left wing bashes, ended up as a right wing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:32 PM
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If I fucked up this badly that they are my only two options, then I would go for a childless one only to cheat with her sister. I would have a relationship and a great sex, but I'll avoid responsibility for kids by staying with childless one. The best choice here really, other than staying single
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:06 AM

What a shame. Your post is black pill at it's best or, if you have high enough self esteem, red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:36 AM

It's a very strong black pill, because it literally means that everything is solely about looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:23 AM

Your post is amazing, but is there any other reason that women became choosy other than being able to be shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:20 AM
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It's funny how you jump to assumptions when you don't have anything to say
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:05 AM
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Because there are no benefits of being a nice guy. All the benefits are reserved for ONS or fuckboys but not for the good stable guy. I have seen it the first hand and let me tell you, it's not something you want. I have been a nice guy for the first twenty years. All it gave me with women is zero success, always rejected. I was a virgin not that long ago, but I had my twin brother that is total opposite of it. He would be rude, obnoxious, teasing and sometimes straight up nasty. I always wonder…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:03 AM
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Even though I am fairly red pilled and usually on the Rp side of things, here I will say with full confidence that you are wrong. These women absolutely exist and they have their own struggles due to their own invisibility and hardship to find a meaningful relationship they would like to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:32 AM
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If your "emotionally healthy one" includes being overly emotional, then no. This idea is pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:57 PM
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They are pathetic for wanting to be the best for you. Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:39 PM
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If you actually go in depth of the sources that were mentioned in the article, you'd find that the biggest predictor of success isn't how much boxes do you tick, but how much money man make and does he live with his parents. Ironically you will be on the wrong side of the equation only if you are a guy. If you are a woman you can be a bimbo that lives with her parents aand you will still do fine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:46 AM
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I defended stud-praising because you argued against it. Regarding slutshaming... I think it's valid, because men, on average, aren't having the same phase, which implies that they are not a woman's first pick for the relationship. This means that the majority of men will never experience love from women. So, the girl will have an experience that she will always compare him to or set the controlling boundaries that are based upon it while the guy didn't even have the opportunity to experience des…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:40 AM

And so what? A few that say ridiculous things like going back in time are unrealistic nutjobs. Just because they exist, it doesn't mean the majority are like them. In all fairness, I think that they would fail even at that time, because the competition wouldn't go away, they just won't know that their wife cheats on them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:24 AM
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Regarding your: Chads are often, but not necessarily naturals. A guy can be in good physique because he achieved it in the gym, plus he has to be smooth talker, be smart, funny, good looking, etc. It's okay to have a stud-praising because women literally don't have to do anything besides existing. I never said it is moral, so no argument there Yes, it's not immoral if it's easy. However when you look at the pure validation and ego stroke women get from dating apps and simps, by purely existing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:19 AM
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It's between people in the age of 25-49. Of course the majority of them have at least some experience, the majority of them are married. And yes, here men have a median you said because later in life men can level the field by using their recources. However, if you consider the different age group, I will be right: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-our-unions/202208/whats-behind-the-rise-lonely-single-men. Tldr: We were talking about different ages, plus your stats fail to mentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:08 AM
0

Can you elaborate why median value contradicts what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:37 AM
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If you take into account the fact that the third of men are sexless, you can see that the number five means that the huge amounts of sex are in hands of the minority, ergo chads. Idk where did you get "lots of guys have a lot of sex" because it's plainly untrue. 30% of them are sexless, so logically second 30% had probably 1-5 instances. The last third probably has varying degree of success of greater than 5 partners. So yeah, the small percentage of Chads do have a lot of sex and since women ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:26 AM
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For a guy to even touch the scraps of women's hoe phase he must be a chad, so no, it's not hypocrisy, it's mere acknowledgement that men have to work for it, while women can just exist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:08 AM
2

Idk, probably true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:27 PM
2

Still, you take it easy on women, because you assume that your average insecure man is rather violent than not, so you do reinforce Op's point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:27 PM

If she really thinks that men need to be told that "No, you can't rape anyone you want", she hates men. The post is just her lame attempt at hiding it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:22 PM
2

I have a hard time believing that women aren't desired. You have the whole simp culture on your side as well as the Blue pill which is widely reinforced. Besides, I don't really understand what you mean by mcbangmaid. Assuming it's a man that uses a woman for her body, do you know how many man can actually pull that off? Hint: not many. So instead of making a surprised Pikachu face when the fuckboy doesn't commit, you should literally look around, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:21 PM
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And he doesn't need it. He will be fine, so he's in a good place. Also, his success isn't artificial. I'd say it's actually broad, because many people have a habit of mistaking emotional unavailability with confidence, so he is genuinely attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 09:16 PM
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I don't see the reason, really. If he's a psychopath he will have success with women, he doesn't have to change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:54 PM
1

No, it's a fallacy. A man can hit his girl while not being insecure and insecure man can abstain from violent acts. Both are true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:46 PM
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You are reinforcing Op's point by creating a strawman, where an insecure guy must be violent. Hahaha, ty for proving op to be right
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:33 PM
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Your question doesn't make any sense, because men aren't mind-readers. You can't tell if she truly desires you or you just attracted her with your attention and money. Besides, women sort the vast majority of guys into "unattractive" category, so it's no surprise that the majority of them won't ever feel love from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:26 PM

Just say that you hate men. Why do you try to hide it under the mask of a scapegoats?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:30 PM
1

I know right? Why would anyone bother changing a view of a 304?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:45 AM
1

They show that dark triad is associated with short term success, if I'm not mistaken. It's logical to assume that they are drawn to that type of guys. Your assumption that women didn't seek out a relationship with them is false, at least imo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:29 AM
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All dark triad guy has to do then is just manipulate her and it will go on for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:09 AM
3

No. I am the one that started noticing some of the Rp concepts before I even knew that was a thing and got any play only after applying red pill in practice. Without it, I would probably be like my brother, who I tried to talk to about it, Blue pilled af. I would believe all that garbage that the most attractive guy is the one who treats her the best, would scoff at the idea of dating as of market or honestly believe that those who don't get laid have a bad personality. It's so bizarre to me now…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 04:29 AM
1

Nobody panics when I say "Kill all men", but when I say "Not all men" everyone loses their minds!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:32 AM
1

I honestly think that you are troll. Red pill is about providing understanding of female nature and how to operate within it. It just gives more realistic understanding of women, that's all, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:36 AM
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TRP didn't go anywhere. I just know what to expect now and how I should act if I want something I like to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:04 AM
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Yes, we infantilize, but no, it's not going to change. They are happy with the status quo. All men are scary, with exception for a handful attractive guys. That's their reality and it's not going to go away any time soon
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:03 PM
5

While yes, Japan is not as traditional as your average middle eastern country, it's not as liberal as the West in a lot of ways. For instance, expectations of you as a man are largely conservative (money, status), but you also need to know the language. Not to mention the common trope of work, where you have to work for ten-eleven hours per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:06 AM
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Bro, the purge is over. Also The things you've mentioned are largely stereotypes, that based on anime, but not on reality. You will immediately bump into the huge problem that is language barrier, and even if after some time living there you'll overcome this issue, you will face a traditional society, meaning that you have to make decent amount of money, to even get a slightest chance to experience all that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:44 AM
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Skipping the part that it's just world fallacy, how many of this "ugly" guys are being cheated on and walked over? Be nice is a bad advice. If you want to rack up numbers you should take care of your appearance and be manipulative. This will give you infinitely more game than niceness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 11:05 PM
2

They can't help themselves. They will always do it, they will come back to the most masculine dick they had, no matter what history you had with her
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:29 PM
2

You can't be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:21 PM
1

They don't care. They will cater towards any Chad, but they will never even think about problems of any other guy besides him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:05 AM
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Tons of women Tons of sluts. Fixed it for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:51 AM
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This. They don't have a problem with guys who never leave a house, because everyone has to work
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:48 AM
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I am in Asia now, so your point of view is plainly incorrect. It would be dumb of me to chase white women when everyone else are asian
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:59 PM
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White and black guys don't have it easy too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:26 PM
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They literally created a whole scapegoat to shame men from liking asian women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:32 PM
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You missed the point. It's that among other girls, she's a bad pick, because guys she was attracted to didn't try to get into relationship with her, implying that she doesn't compare to other women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:13 PM
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A guy would attempt, at least, to have a relationship with her if he really liked her. The absence of it is an indicator that among other women, she's not a good pick
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:11 PM
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26 year old. But not because of her bodycount, but because 21 year old probably has a hoe phase and will inevitably cheat on me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:59 PM
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Would be funnier if you actually had a point here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:01 AM
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Yes, it is a different claim. But pathetic man with no self respect is a cuck, so they're not wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:58 AM
3

I don't think they are. From what I've seen, the most loud feminist men are the most pathetic ones
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:52 AM
6

In what part?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:47 AM
1

Wash ma ballz
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:33 AM
11

Aare they wrong though?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:04 AM
6

At this point it's like saying that majority of girls are beautiful princesses, but the majority of guys are literal goblins
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:38 AM
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You must be a mind reader to sort "trash guys" from normal guys by taking a look at the picture only for a second or two
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:36 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:36 AM
27

She's average bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:31 AM
66

"BuT wOmEn AcTuAlLy ReAd BiOs!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:29 AM
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So hard having dating life on the constant tutorial level
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:24 AM
3

Just a reminder that if a bitch does that, than the hoe's for the streets!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:46 AM
1

Slow down cowboy. Even in Nazi Germany there were people who have hidden jews and helped them escape to neutral countries
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:21 AM
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I would love to see a bit of context here, because it's not really a full picture. What does the Asian mean? Only east asian (japan, korea, china) or Asia as a whole (india, japan, Indonesia)? What does black mean (only black Americans or african immigrants are with them too)? What does white mean (only Europeans and white americans or places like middle east and Argentina are included too?) There's only a clarity somehow for Latino, because they are just form central/latin america.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:17 AM
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The advantages are similar to being single: "Ignorance is bliss" will be your motto because you have zero experience in the relationships, so if she's setting for you or you have a bad sex or she's being abusive you'll never know. You have more money to spend on yourself You have more time for other activities because you have no gf
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:46 AM
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Not a chance. It automatically implies that she is way less interested in me than vice versa . It's literally digging your own grave
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:34 AM
3

Keep preaching lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:36 PM
7

Women having more options means that they have a better chance of good relationship too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:35 PM
5

It's a numbers game. By having more options to choose from you have bigger chances for the good relationships. It's elementary math
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:32 PM
1

🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 11:08 AM
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AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 08:27 AM
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Of course they do. They want at least some resemblance of chad in the beta they decided to date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 12:53 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:05 AM
3

He will do exactly what women do about bodycount : lie
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:52 AM
-1

women's sex drive vary a lot among individuals and during different times in a woman's life AF/BB in a nutshell. It's not about how he looks. It's that by telling guys that women have the same drive as them, you are telling them that they're worthless, because they are sexless and that is simply not true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:42 AM
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They have the desire for sex only for Chads or Tyrones. Your average guy will never know what it's actually like to be loved, desired and lusted upon. Unless you are these guys... You are fucked. With social media and online dating just became more apparent that most guys are never going to be genuinely loved even by their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:37 AM
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I agree with that. I'd say that almost everyone from broken home aren't like that.I think it came from anime where literally every hero has a broken family.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:35 AM
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Keep preaching, lol. Finding a partner is a numbers game, copium such as "quality" doesn't apply because you have a higher chance of meeting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:11 AM
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Yeah. It's terrible. Funny thing that if guys did the same, they would have been banned
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 07:02 AM
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I think it runs deeper than that. It's not even that they don't date, it's that even if they wanted to, they would have the worst experiences when it comes to dating. To the point where the topic is "I didn't get called creep. Yay!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:59 PM
2

To be fair, everyone seems to agree that they have it so bad, that there's nothing to talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:15 PM
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Value in life placed on women? Fuck no, good luck finding someone else for simping. And yes, it will help, because I will know what to look out for
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:28 AM
2

Alpha fux, beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:21 AM
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Out of all normal women, in the red jacket actually said that a lot of the advice from Red Pill is sound and she is also the only one there to put up a decent amount of quality points, so yeah, props to her. The one with the blue hair periodically tuned into conversation and she had a mediocre success of combating Myron's arguments. The rest, with one exception of the Asian lady to the right, were just silent for most of the show. There you have it, your average girl would be silent, because she…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:18 AM
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I can see where are you coming from, however if you saw similar street interviews, a lot of people can't name a single country in Africa or something like that. Also, you wouldn't be able to tell how intelligent some woman is before you've met and spoken to her. So, even though they are picking women basically for the entertainment, what makes a large chunk of it is the fact that the talking points of these women are essentially the same with majority of girls. They are killing two birds with on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:12 AM
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You need to readjust the mediocrity to the place where guys in dating operate. Average american woman goes for all women in the US, married or not. What you need to see is your average woman that takes part into dating marketplace and this type of woman is far from her late forties. So , yeah, podcast girls are not precisely a representation of all women, because it's just not, however their talking points are rather widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:06 AM
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You don't have to look for it because the most common criticism of that picking is not that they are not an average women, but that they aren't good at defending their point of view than your supposed average woman is (I doubt that). So they aren't really disputing the views of these women, rather their argumentation of these views
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:36 PM
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It has if the sex is passionate and done with both loving partners. If not, yeah. Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:08 PM
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I am a little bit of devil's advocate here, but what you wrote is blatantly incorrect. I would argue that you are focusing attention on cherry picked arguments against their biggest channels. About F&F: They invite them to demonstrate the entitlement of such women and because they are arguably easier to deal with. Don't get me wrong: Myron and others are more than capable of handling your average woman and red pilling her in the process. It's just that the talking points of the average woman and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:53 PM
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It's like... Go cry about it. "I'm miserable because I'm rich". Pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:11 PM
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There's nothing that can actually disprove that rule, besides some anecdotes and no true scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:28 AM
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Op is right lmao. Can't wait to see the copium coming in
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:53 AM
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It will most certainly change it for women, because the cheap access to validation from simps is going to vanquish. Yay for incels, nay for others. Might become too addictive and you won't know what to do about it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:05 PM
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Idk. I'm a guy and I don't find the "strong and independent" stereotype to be so repulsive in the relationship. It's just that most women are not strong and independent, despite what they claim. In fact, I'd argue that strong and independent woman is better for a relationship (let's not engage with evo psyche), because we have a capable partner, who is far more interesting than any tradwife could ever be. She can call the shots in the times of need and she is supposedly won't lose her ground whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:08 AM
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I didn't single out any particular sex with this statement. I'm saying it's a problem to want to feel special through validation from others because it's rooted in insecurity. You should have self-confidence independent of others. It's unhealthy to depend on others to validate you. Your flair is question for men, you singled out it with this. If you put it that way, that you ideally shouldn't need validation from others I'd agree, however this is still rather an opinion, even more controversial …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:42 AM
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Monogamy means that you are investing your recourses in only one person. Those who are looking for virgin wives do that not because of insecurity, but from feeling safe that the recourses they have invested in other person will stay with that person and with them (i.e. she didn't cheat on them). Also, the fear that someone will win over your partner can be rooted in both fear of not finding a replacement and love. You have already said about former, but the latter means that once your partner ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:55 PM
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They insist that everyone could be desirable if they chased money hard enough and hit the gym more often than not. In reality though, there's only a few jobs that make you stand out from everyone in the sense of income. So, you chasing money might not help, because the amount of jobs that are paying more than six figures is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:34 AM
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It's funny because the same guys that are saying things like that, probably wouldn't be able to help themselves in those times too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:11 AM
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Try asking that question (How would you rate yourself on the scale from 1-10) on the streets. I bet, women are queenz is what you are gonna get
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:58 AM
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Honestly? I am all for equality of sexes, but feminism never helped men, so I am lost at what would a guy want from them. On the one hand, demanding state issued girlfriend is so ridiculous, there's nothing else to say about it without dying from laughter. On the other hand, they have an influence and power over media and news, so probably at least saying that your average guy is actually okay? That he isn't some loser that needs to be killed (KAM) or some other nonsense that he ain't shit, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:51 PM
1

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:38 PM
2

Yeah, they don't need any skills to participate. If you are normal, you will have to do all the effort, because they have overabundance of options like you. If you are 5-10% of the guys that are actually getting hit on by women, they will make a clumsy attempts to approach you, because again, zero experience on their part
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:35 PM
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I know it does
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:28 PM
1

Identical
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:17 PM
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I am saying that if you as much as point out that your average guy will never experience genuine love and attraction, you will be showered with comments about entitlement and misogyny , even though the need of friendship and love stands next to the physical safety in the pyramid of needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:17 PM
1

Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:11 PM
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If that's you mirroring an average guy on the woman, I don't understand why you think your average guy is a social outcast. Average guy is average for a reason. He is not the hottest, but he is not the ugliest either. He is not mentally prepared to deal with any random situation, but his mental health does not come with a severity of the problems either. He isn't a social butterfly, but he isn't loner either. He isn't fit, but he isn't obese or anorexic either. He isn't a high earner, but he isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:08 PM
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It's a sound argument, however the more renowned parts of these myths are still knights, Camelot, Excalibur and the round table with a Holy grail. The cheating part is far less known and also, in these myths, they are antagonised for it, even though Arthur spares her in the end. You are right to point that out in greek mythology too, however it's worth also mention that Zeus was a main god of their pantheon and mythology, so that kind of stuff is obviously allowed for him to do, but only for him…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:44 PM
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That's why men need red pill. To stop listening to that nonsense. There's only an incredibly lucky few ugly guys that somehow made it there. Their success is luck and probably putting up with the skewed power dynamics in their relationships against them. He isn't entitled nor does he disrespects women, but he thought that between him and literally nothing, women will choose him over nothing. Imagine if your partner stood up one day and chose loneliness over you. That's tough, but that's what we …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:03 AM
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Yeah, very empathetic of you to tell the guy that he is worse than nothing and blame it all on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:54 AM
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Another post of how women are all queeenzz that get it from the get go and men are dumb bozos. AMALT, I guess? What is shocking is that as an average man (~60% of attractiveness compared to total male population), let alone below average man, you will never experience any genuine attraction and love from women ever, because AF/BB, and if you try to complain about it, you will be gaslit to Tartarus by feminists, because complaint of such nature will be seen as misogynistic. You, as a man, are als…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:34 PM
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I mean, not necessarily. The vast majority of people throughout history were pretty much unconscious about their needs and they would support their landlords and feudal lords, even though it was an oppressive system that they actually had no stake in. Why did they do it? Not because they're masochists or they were locked away, but because they genuinely believed in it. They believed that "this is how things are" and supported the system for centuries. It took a long time and a few developments a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:37 PM
0

Will you remove this post because of the blatant misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:17 PM
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Mods, will you remove this post for misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:10 PM
0

It's easy for you to say it now, but I don't think it will be as easy for everyone. You can stay at home and never go to work, because there's your clone in your place. I doubt that many people will reject even this oversimplistic model, what will happen woth the more productive ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:49 PM
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I think the AI thing won't be given, you will need to pay for your child's health and genes. There's probably will be traditional (here it will mean that a woman will have pregnancy like today) couples, so it's kinda messy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:46 PM
2

With this? There's no need to, you can just custom your wife while leaving the rest of the women alone
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:42 PM
0

Hah, it really is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:13 PM
1

Dystopian route would dictate then that you have to pay for the right of owning your child, basically buying them from the state. But you are absolutely right about average people. I didn't consider that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:01 PM
-5

Artificial marriage exists to this day. If she doesn't know, she won't bother with the idea of someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:58 PM
-1

I mean, top coachable wife to top G! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:53 PM
7

Only in your wildest dreams
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:51 PM
1

I think that it could happen, because it's basically the same mechanism that was enacted during slavery, that child of the slave is slave, but here it's child of the machine is not a real human. It's disgusting, but there's nothing stopping from taking their rights away
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:49 PM
0

Andrew Tate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:47 PM
0

He actually suggests it at the end of the post, to create "perfect husbands"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:46 PM
1

I don't think people will hold this view though. As heinous as it sounds, people had slavery enacted not that long ago. There's nothing stopping it from happening
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:39 PM
12

This is one of the most dystopian shit I've seen. I mean, enjoy the decline and all, but it really sounds like an incel paradise with new government assigned girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:37 PM
1

The vast majority of men are invisible to women. To say you can build up a woman's attraction towards you by having a unique personality is advocating for the casino. I'd argue that hoping to build a unique personality in itself is such a difficult task, that you probably vastly underestimate its scarcity if you actually suggest it as advice. If for looks there's around 30% of people who make it into the attractive bracket, but for the unique and attractive personality there's what? 5%? 1? There…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:12 PM
1

Well. By "Global scene" I meant that in big cities culture tends to be globalised in some way, so you have to act around more global standards and modern ideas, rather than local. There's also a factor, that in such big cities you have a lot of foreigners that also compete on the dating scene, and they are not poor or happened there randomly. They are more likely, I'd assume, to be either a student or are trying to build a career, so they shape it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:23 PM
1

If you are below average than it's not worth it. Let's say you are from small town. You compete there with not a lot of guys there, so there's a good chance you will make it on top there, but in big cities, especially giants like NY, Paris, etc. you have competition from global scene, not just local
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:13 PM
1

On the 6'0 floor?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:13 PM
1

Caring for yourself is not being a sociopath. Generally speaking you should have a concern for yourself, your family members and close friends, but outside from that? You shouldn't give a fuck. Red pill says, and rightly so, that you need to take women off the pedestal. Her well being shouldn't be in higher priority than yours. Most guys put women on pedestal and they trouble themselves with not coming off as creepy. In fact, I'd assume that they don't approach women because they don't want to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:26 PM
1

Since almost all of my crushes were the ones that are conventionally considered unattractive: If the chemistry is there, just don't be overweight and be younger than 35
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:07 PM
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I don't think you have to have some concern for others. If you won't do it others will and you lose. I agree with you though, that if you ask three girls per week, all three rejected you and you are still trying, then you are wasting your time. However, if you asked them out and they said yes, do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:41 AM
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Why do you even entertain the thought that dating isn't or shouldn't be a numbers game? Women are literally encouraged to have a hoe phase which is a numbers game. If you are a guy that wants to have fun too, you need to stop giving a fuck what they say or how it might potentially come as and just do what you want. Otherwise, you'll leave all the fun for others
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:15 AM
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If that's your biggest problem, I legitimately envy you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:05 AM
1

I doubt that anyone could've said it better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:00 AM
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My twin brother (21) is ridiculously successful with women. When we rented apartment together I lost count to women he brought home. He's just knows what to say and what to do. It's difficult to explain. It's one of those things that he just gets. Needless to say that he's confident, easily starts any conversation, and probably charming af. His appearance: 6'1, white, fit. Idk what else here to say. I wouldn't say he's chad, because if he is, it would destroy my self esteem as a person, since I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:52 AM
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The question was not about what you've described
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:28 PM
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Almost everyone grows out of their teenage years. Would you be down to do smth with your ex if he approached you, while you're partying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:01 PM
2

Q4W: If you dated a "bad boy" and now with someone else, do you have at least a fraction of attraction to your partner that you had for a "bad boy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:32 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:27 PM
1

Don't get surprised then, when your liberties will be stripped away by these men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:13 PM
2

Leaving the whole capitalism vs socialism aside, the right are the only one who talks about men's issues, while left needs to even acknowledge their existence in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:59 PM
2

It's highly debatable if women like this state of things. Like, sure, for women with OF or those who literally use guys it's a gift, but for other? Not so much. I'd assume that if you are a sane woman, you'd want your man to be emotionally stable, without being his therapist, so you'd actually encourage your man to have his own friends. Another point that contradicts your theoretical assumption is that your manipulation is good only for the certain amount of time. I wouldn't be surprised that if…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:50 PM
1

I had a wingman. Unfortunately in my case wingman was too good and women just went for him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:33 PM
1

Most men will never experience the same level of attraction or desire from woman than the guys who she wanted earlier in life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:21 PM
1

I mean...duh. It's kinda why RP was created in the first place. Bluepillers will never be able to explain things like why serial killers are successful with women even if they are known or why their advice is straight up garbage most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:10 PM
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You didn't describe accurately what you meant in your comment then. You said that if he's as much as concerned about it, it is already a red flag, despite the reasons he might have, but if you meant a guy who places a very important value on this alone as a reason to call him that, I am on board with you then. A person's value goes above and beyond a number of hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 12:59 AM
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It's funny how you say that shaming for the choices of your past (n count) is wrong, but then turn around and call a guy who cares about it names
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:56 PM
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If you are ugly, yours telling "Hello" to a woman will get a cops called on you, whether if you are attractive yours "Hello" will get you her number
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:24 PM
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It's not beneficial to men. It is for a fboys/chads
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:20 PM
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It's not valid, because in some shape or form it's present in almost every discussion here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:26 PM
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What's the point of the discussion if everyone seems to agree on the fact that men do feel an ick here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 06:01 PM
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It's not about how woman had it, it's about what she did with that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 05:59 PM
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You make a very good point. I didn't consider that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:05 PM
1

I disagree with you on the height because 8'0 is a disadvantage rather than advantage. Experience too, you can be very experienced, but it won't open for you many doors by it's own
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:01 PM
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The problem with statistics is that they provide a generally true statement, without much details how it is impacting the dating. Like, an OC study for instance. It just provides a generally true statement like "Women in the overabundance of options view the vast majority as unattractive option", but they don't specify how it would actually impact the dating scene. Like, there's no way from that to say how much they view, how and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:56 PM
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I agree with you on the graphs, but the problem with statistics is that they provide a generally true statement, without much details how it is impacting the dating. Like, an OC study for instance. It just provides a generally true statement like "Women in the overabundance of options view the vast majority as unattractive option", but they don't specify how it would actually impact the dating scene. Like, there's no way from that to say how much they view, how and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:55 PM
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Yeah... I'll make a edit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:49 PM
1

Why do you think this approach (as economics) doesn't make sense? It explains how and for whom dating apps work. It also explains why would a girl chase an extremely attractive guy and then completely disregard everyone else and a few other things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:44 PM
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Why would you not at least look into the guy who gets something extremely easy, while you have it hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 01:39 PM
1

It's not wrong that they want comfort. Why are you blaming them for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:22 AM
1

Under the right circumstances it could be taken for AF/BB confirmation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:47 AM
0

What's wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:40 PM
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I think it is immensely responsible for the current state of dating. While I am not saying that the movement is bad, it's hard not to see the consequences of it in the dating. It has affected women's education, employment, and perception of the world overall (not just for women). Things like body positivity, sexual revolution that was celebrated by feminists of both 2nd and 3rd waves, the invention of perception of slutshaming as something negative, the push for normalising sex work. These thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:25 PM
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I would say it could be true, because when you are initially nice, the receiving party might think that you are probably nice to everyone and thus don't fight for the place under the sun as ferociously as others. It could explain why it is perceived as negative
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 03:10 PM
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Yeah, probably with enough recourses and dedication science could find a new solution to this. But right now the paradox remains
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:08 AM
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I mean, if your guy who had succeeded with you really ticked off all the boxes, hats off to you, you landed a catch. I am not really funny, but I am sociable. Idk if I am good guy, I've done both good and bad things. I don't think therapy is something that can actually help. I am probably self-aware and emotionally intelligent in my own right. But really, can't you see the reason why the approaching moved on fringes? If you need to tick all the boxes to have a shot in approach, it's just not via…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:54 PM
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Imagine asking out 12 women that I am already acquainted with in private and also in the same circle of friends with in person to have no result. Crazy right? Not so much. I am trying to make a point that while I am glad for you that all turned out very well for you, it's rather rare
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:40 PM
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I understand your point. I truly do. I was just speaking from my experience about approaching, and that is nothing ever came out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:20 PM
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"You're pretty" could be objectification, because it literally implies that you are judged superficially, as an object, not as a person with feelings. In the worst possible scenario it's being equated to sex doll. I bet many women (you don't have to look too far for that, just open twox chromosomes, or askfeminists) would think that you're entitled because you think you have a chance with them of shooting your shot. It's not the fact itself, it's about on whom you are trying it. You also leave a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:04 PM
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There's none Basically a paradox, while women don't owe society anything, they are still needed to solve this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:25 PM
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I thought you were pretty Aha, objectification. "Why do you judge me by my looks and not by my character?" Or something like "Looks away, grabs her phone, starts recording" I might be able to grab your number Uhh, the entitlement. "These men think they can approach me as if I owe them a relationship". Or maybe: "He thinks he has a chance with me. What a creep", or perhaps more common: "And what will he do with my number? Stalk me?" You just can't win
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:23 PM
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No, they don't. My point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:01 PM
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There's no point for a guy to approach the women, especially in the US. You'll be labelled all horrible things, for even trying, so yeah. Why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:52 PM
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Because without new people coming in, the state will degrade into less comfortable place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:48 PM
1

You are basically describing the difference in phylosophy between TRP and TBP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:33 PM
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I mean, if I love my wife, why would I leave her? It's a really good scenario: stable family, good financial situation. It would be dumb of me to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:49 AM
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I think it exists, but in majority it's not as severe as people would make it out to be. In order to happen, you need to have a promiscuous woman that is marrying unattractive (comparatively to her) guy. Promiscuous women don't have the numbers to be the vast majority, and if you follow the narrative of BB till the end, you also have the fact that beta has money or at least stable financial situation, so by having "dead bedroom" woman also risks pushing her partner to cheating and thus to divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:41 AM
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The hostility would stem from the fact that they are behaving exactly like animals. It's as if the past was all for nothing, so we can be animals in the modern era, while being supposedly on the top of our development.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 10:40 PM
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That's not how genes work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:18 PM
1

Ask him what colour is his Bugatti
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:48 PM
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The way you put it, where everything is great, just a history with this, yeah, I would. But I am saying yes only because literally everything else is great. In reality that's too hypothetical and you have no way to know it for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 05:53 AM
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Two things: 1) Your political understanding of the modern Russia and USSR is zero and you should educate yourself to not embarrass yourself like that. 2) I can hardly debate your points, I guess they are true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:44 PM
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Yep. Both have complexities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:23 PM
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I think it's stupid to believe that there is some fundamental difference between men and women. We are pretty much equal with a slight differences
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:35 AM
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..."if he knows"... Turn down the lights
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:38 AM
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Most of them are easy. Slaves to their desires, urges. Face societal pressures, so they might say one thing and act differently. Rude to anyone they're not attracted to, will go above and beyond for those they are into.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:54 AM
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She will string along some guy, like she tried it with him. At least she would feel miserable as much as the guy who will wind with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:55 PM
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It's sweet, but not really. I can't speak for all other guys, but I am sure there's people who will agree with me. I have a ridiculously successful in dating brother. When we rented an apartment together, I have almost always seen him in the evening with some girl. The amount of pure lust and desire he got is just unknown to most guys. It's absolutely different from what the "boyfriend material" receive. The bf material guys would be lucky to even feel for a moment that amount of desire. You are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:30 AM
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Lol, I hope he will pump&dump her as cruel as he could
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:02 AM
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Isn't it just a paraphrased "Men are not entitled to have a sex with a woman in the relationship."?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:48 AM
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Assuming she likes me a lot, but for some reason withholding sex. >It can be manipulation. It is. >It can be that she tried it, got burnt and doesn't want to repeat that mistake. This is valid, but only on the condition she's not repeating this mistake only with me >It can be that she isn't comfortable having sex with you yet. It means that she's not attracted to me as much as she's to the other guy. > It can be because she doesn't want to have sex now, no matter if it's with you or not. Again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:55 PM
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I am asking before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:35 PM
2

The empowering notion feminism did to itself, there's no need to blame men for your creation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:32 PM
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You serious? Good luck with a dead bedroom with this kind of attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:31 PM
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No woman is actually telling this. They would come with any kind of rationalisations (you can see them here), but they won't acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:27 PM
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May I ask you: Have you withholded sex with your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:24 PM
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It's not self-control, it's straight up manipulation. It's as if you had two personalities, one for hot guys and the other for a guy you presume you "like"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:18 PM
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If she really liked the guy she would bend her own rules for him. Tell me this, if a girl breaks her own rules for the guy, is she less attracted to him than to someone she makes wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:14 PM
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The sex won't happen unless woman wants it, otherwise it's rape, but since we're on the dating sub, rape is off limits
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:57 PM
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I fully agree with you op. I myself experienced it recently, it's so fucking cool and different, it's insane. But more insane is to see all kinds of excuses thrown around by women here. Why you do this? You are literally killing my faith in y'all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:46 PM
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News flash: Men want to feel desired too. If you abstained for one guy, but immediately jumped into the bed or broke all the rules for the other, guess how makes it feel the first guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:30 PM
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You basically confirmed Op's points. You are "easy" for one guy and "hard" for someone you want. The fact that you can "shove down" your "attraction" already suggests that you aren't attracted to him. If you are doing it with someone, do that person a favor and leave them be. They deserve someone more receptive to their love than you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:56 PM
1

I mean... equal rights, equal fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:59 PM
2

Sad but true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:06 PM
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What is a high status talents? It will vary my score from 10 to 12 Also, 57 on the societal ladder
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 07:41 AM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:38 PM
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There's a problem in your judgement. You assume that "low quality" people will be single, but it's highly debatable. All it takes for them to be in the relationship is for one low quality woman/man to just "click" with another man/woman that fits "low quality" standard. And it's highly likely too because they could find much in common very quickly because of their experiences with others. So, you have two unattractive people bonding together and having fun. Others will see it and draw a conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:34 PM
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Your response is exactly my thought. What. a.fucking.creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:26 PM
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You absolutely hit the nail on it's head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:30 PM
0

Which ones are yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:51 PM
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In reality there's some truth to all pills, be it purple,red, blue,black,green,bro,white, any. But you have to be aware that fully enforced black pill is a recipe for the depression, as well as any misconceptions any pill might present
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:26 PM
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The most dangerous result of the red pill is a possibility of slipping in black pill, which will leave you without hope of ever achieving something you'd want. Other than that, if you keep your head cool and don't get political, it's nice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:28 PM
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That type of guys just didn't stick with me for long enough to know that. However, my female friend always ends up with them. She had 3 relationships with these guys and, since we're good friends from school, it usually ended up with her coming to me for help to break up with her new bf because she's scared to tell them while she's alone. Keep in mind that I'm talking only about relationships. Who knows how many ons she had with them. So, I really think that unfortunately these guys slay. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:48 PM
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From what I can understand: your type A is a bachelor, type B is either RP or incel. Regarding your questions: It's hard to tell who's more numerous, but judging from online presence – incels They're not faking it because they are truly ok with it I don't know. Ask your psychiatrist I think yes, but not without struggles. Although, it really depends on whether or not they adopt it in a good way, so they won't slip back into inceldom once they hit the rocks
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:29 PM
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That's cool man! I'm glad you found your half of heart. I am not as lucky as you, but I'll get there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:05 PM
1

True. Being a little obnoxious is okay, but being arrogant in the serious situations is just meh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:32 PM
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Yeah. Especially if this opinion was taken straight from tik tok and presented as controversial when in fact it's either dumb or actually generally accepted opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:55 PM
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Intelligence and openness. I'm a man and I've had a moderate success in dating in the last three weeks. It just hit me that I don't give a f if a girl is hot or whatever, I just felt more comfortable and more attracted to a girl that is actually can hold a convo and can share her piece of mind on something, rather than a hot chick that thinks she's a center of the world. And openness of course, because without it you will bump into smart but obnoxious women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:36 PM
1

This thread and replies to it is cringiest thread I've seen here for abwhile
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:30 AM
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I think it's not that far off. You just need to know what the user likes which is achievable through social media, and that's practically here, take a look on the tiktok. The biggest issue is to make a conversation seem okay, but it's not something undoable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:40 PM
0

That's sad men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:36 PM
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Well, they always can do a cover-up by making it long distance relationship. No, a project of that scale is not going to be untouched. Haha, yeah it would be. But I seriously doubt that it would be from it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:18 PM
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I honestly see a cop-out in the technology, such as bots. What you really need then is just an absurd amount of ai that imitates an interested woman. Maybe have a few generated faces to be more convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 06:58 PM
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Yes I kissed a girl. Yes I had more than a kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:36 AM
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I guess it's just that they never actually experienced a girl that was beaming in their presence and want the same, but girls will too often catch a butterflies when you don't give a shit, so yeah. I guess op is kinda right (not fully though. Toxic relationships do happen with baddies)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:00 PM
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Okay,okay. Sorry, I didn't mean to🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:14 AM
1

True enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:05 AM
6

There's noone more pathetic and insecure than redpill alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:02 AM
1

It's so sad that you have it rough like that. I don't know how to express well enough my sympathy for you after your molesting experience. I hope you won't be alone for any longer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:51 AM
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That's a shame that you didn't have enough romance. Good for you that you found your current bf. If you don't mind, how did he text you? Out of the blue, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:52 AM
1

Good for you that you found your husband who accepts you as you are :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:48 AM
2

I thought so too, but fortunately the majority of the responses here end well
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:44 AM
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I don't really think it was. Before the term was commercialised it was about impossible beauty standards (top models with computer design on the front page type of standards) for people who realistically didn't have time nor recourses to look even remotely alike
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:43 AM
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Your opinions are really somewhat harsh. It's really very rare and "steel"-like to voluntarily cut yourself off the social validation. Contrary to what you said about women's appearance staying stable,there's a lot of responses saying that they had an upgrade at some point, what is your opinion about them? Well, I can't blame you for being sarcastic when you suddenly receive compliments on everything while you stayed relatively same as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:40 AM
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It's good for you that you had a "glow up". I honestly think about trying a makeup as a guy. Maybe it would work for me too Correct me if I wrong, byt it seems to me that you abstained from the apps, am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:29 AM
1

That's cool. Always Good to hear the story about self development. Did your improvement applied to your job?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:52 PM
2

I apologized for it in the edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:49 PM
1

Of course. Imagine a title "incel's dating experience" with the exact same premise on the different sub, that has more hate for the incels. Just by typing you admit that you think you're an incel. Who wouldn't find that unpleasant,to say the least?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:05 PM
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I don't deny that men do face struggles and are mocked, and that's unfortunate by all accounts. However, on this sub, the male's issues (of any sort) and attractive women's issues are discussed constantly, so I've decided to address the people who are left out in such discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:01 PM
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I'd say that you leave the part of the problem of identifying so-called "5%". The truth is, unless you have seen them in action or how well they do in general there's no way of actually knowing whether or not the guy belongs there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:57 PM
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That's a shame. It's good thing you avoided being used Would you mind sharing your experience with online dating or irl more explicitly? You don't have to go into details, you can just briefly summarise it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:46 PM
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No, I wouldn't say that they don't compare. The fact is that those women who say that they have a trouble getting in relationship are being openly mocked, so it's hardly surprising that the number of responses is few. I don't disagree, however, that ugly guys have it harder, but it still doesn't mean that ugly women have it all without a fuss
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:43 PM
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Bro, the majority of responses here clearly state that OLD sucked for them big time. If a lucky few exist, it doesn't mean the others are lying
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:38 PM
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It's like saying that only 5% of women are worth putting effort to. Both statements are false
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:31 PM
2

It's great to hear about improvement? Also, how your current tactics differ from those you used before?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:29 PM
1

There's a few responses that actually do compare to your situation. Scroll a bit further down and read them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:27 PM
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There's an alternative like "unattractive", "unappealing superficially" or something like that. I know that it's a hard truth, but I got the feeling while reading the responses that they are not that content with it, even if it is their experience. So I decided to apologise for it, because they might feel a bit more stigmatised for even responding to such a formulation of words
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:19 PM
1

True friends are known from the hardships. It's relieving to know that at least one friend stayed by your side, but immensely saddening to hear about other. Have changing cities changed much for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 07:14 PM
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Wdym? Yes, I can choose to not call them ugly I haven't seen them to evaluate on whether or not they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:52 PM
3

Thank you too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:43 PM
2

I can, but I also can choose not to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:43 PM
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It's terrible that you were judged and mistreated in the ways such as these. I hope you're better now. (Also, no. you shouldn't be thanking anyone for your humiliation) If you don't mind, how did your friends reacted to seeing guys mistreating you? Did that hate and constant judgement from men (ngl, it's some new manifestation of racism that you've dealt with) made you feel depressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:42 PM
1

I would say it's either resentment towards or bullying them for merely talking to men or in worse case, for existing. Also, maybe it would mean always being handed the role of the side piece or being abused in the relationship because of the looks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:29 PM
3

I'm truly glad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:26 PM
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Thank you for such a detailed and genuine response. It's a wild thing to hear about gay man. It's a shame you were taken advantage of. Yeah, the body positivity in the beginning (before it was effectively commercialised) was targeting the beauty standards to make people who need it happier. It's sad that it changed. I hope you are and will be well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:24 PM
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I'm glad that it worked out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:13 PM
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Nonono. Don't take it the wrong way. I expected that, you know, having so much superficial men would mean that women who are lacking in appearance would end up with a short stick, but fortunately it seems as not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:11 PM
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I see. Good for you for being communicative
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:05 PM
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That's really a shame that you had it that bad. I can only hope the attention you now receive will transform into a meaningful relationship. If you don't mind my asking, how bad did the apps do it for you? You can ignore the question if it makes you feel uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:01 PM
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