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Sit in the middle of the couch. Don't be afraid to take up space.
/r/seduction27/06/17 04:10 AM
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Watching this thread. I'm in a very similar position. I'm expanding my social circles by combining different groups of friends. I'm getting some results in the form of getting asked to hang out more often and meeting the friends of those friends, but I still want to get better at building a social circle AND being a "mover and shaker" within it, so to speak.
/r/seduction27/06/17 02:23 AM
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It's an old book, and it's very "pickup-y," but Mystery Method, if you can find a copy, has excellent material on comfort-building. I just read it for the first time recently and was blown away by how he basically treats kino (touching) as a means to build comfort as opposed to attraction (how I thought it was to be used). Good read.
/r/seduction22/06/17 04:45 AM
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She's keeping you as a texting buddy and orbiter. She's not interested. Sorry, brah. Next her.
/r/seduction21/06/17 05:22 PM
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Good on you for tackling this issue so young! Some of us are much older and are just starting to practice this stuff. I think it could help with the overall experience of meeting someone brand new and breaking the ice, which is never a bad thing. But I don't think it's going to do much for your AA, because it doesn't require you to truly "approach" anyone. The ticket price of the event does the approaching for you. It's not really approaching a girl if she's actually required to sit there and ta…
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:22 PM
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Yaaasssss. I love it! We're all gonna make it, brah.
/r/seduction21/06/17 12:38 PM
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Thanks, man.
/r/seduction20/06/17 11:55 AM
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Thanks for the kind words, man. But honestly, I'm not that great looking. Easily still 35-40 lbs overweight, rocking a faux hawk straight outta 2005, and I'm the only guy I know who wears boot cut jeans who is not a cowboy. The difference is my confidence has shot through the roof recently due to several changes I've made, which is one reason I believe so strongly in self-improvement as a booster for game. And you're probably not as below average as you think you are. I was in the same mentality…
/r/seduction20/06/17 11:48 AM
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Exactly. It's a step, and a much easier one than we often let ourselves believe.
/r/seduction20/06/17 11:42 AM
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They are so much more into it when they can sense you did it as soon as it entered your mind, too.
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:24 AM
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Well said. I think we're mostly on the same page. Work on yourself, but not to the exclusion of actually talking to women.
/r/seduction18/06/17 05:16 PM
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First, kudos to you for having done so well for yourself. That's impressive, and you should be very proud. Second, I am one of those guys who is a huge proponent of self-improvement, and yet I agree with you wholeheartedly. It is all about priming a woman's emotional state and knowing how to take her on that roller coaster that ends in the bedroom. Technique and understanding social dynamics are incredibly important and helpful. The reason I believe so strongly in self-improvement is that most g…
/r/seduction18/06/17 05:00 PM
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I've actually found it's worked the other way for me--improving other areas of my life has made me much better with women. I make a conscious effort to open interactions with people who look interesting, or I'll comment on someone's t-shirt or a book they are reading if it's something I'm familiar with. This general comfort with approaches has made it much easier to approach girls, too, because they are people after all. I also have begun making a conscious effort to expand my social circle--mak…
/r/seduction18/06/17 04:42 PM
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I keep movin', Can't stop, won't stop groovin'.
/r/seduction18/06/17 02:02 PM
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The voices in your own head can be the pinchiest of crabs.
/r/seduction17/06/17 07:35 PM
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De nada. Just seem to be experiencing this some from a few sources in my life lately.
/r/seduction17/06/17 06:41 PM
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Maybe stop calling girls faggots?
/r/seduction17/06/17 07:18 AM
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Just walk up and grab her by the pussy.
/r/seduction16/06/17 07:18 PM
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Call me Al Gore, 'cause the truth is inconvenient as shit.
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:16 PM
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She didn't say it directly. She called me "Mr. Hot Player Jerk," and then said that "those guys are assholes," implying that I was becoming one. So it was a compliment...I think.
/r/seduction16/06/17 01:00 PM
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They had been asking me about recent girls I'd met, so I was telling them stories. And our other single (female) friend and I had been talking about attraction and power dynamics between men and women, and my married friend was like, "Y'all stop thinking so much and just be yourselves." We both agreed that "just being yourself" in the classic sense only gets you access to girls or guys who are less attractive than you, so you must be smart about your interactions in order to build attraction.
/r/seduction16/06/17 12:55 PM
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If you want to waste a shitload of time and money traveling back and forth to discover your date is a fat girl who has been sending you 4-year-old pictures for a month, or have a chick just stand you up and ghost you because a guy with a slightly sharper jawline messaged her "hey" and a dick pic 30 minutes before you get into town, be my guest. Or game where you are, get over your approach anxiety, and take a girl home tonight, with less than $30 out of pocket spent on nothing by your own drinks…
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:39 AM
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Eh, early on we had that kind of relationship, but it's been 100% mutual for several years. I haven't been attracted to her in a long time, for several reasons. It just kind of hit me upside the head--it came out of nowhere, and her husband (my friend) was right there.
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:07 AM
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Look for a GILF.
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:52 AM
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The "Naked Man." It works 2/3 of the time.
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:50 AM
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I don't care what her intentions are. I care about what she feels she wants, not what she thinks she wants.
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:48 AM
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I completely agree with your first statement, but I only partially agree with the second part. Direct and situational openers are always preferable, but I think it never hurts to have a few canned openers and rehearsed topics on deck for conversational lulls. Plus they can be really useful for newbies who just plain need to get used to talking to people in general.
/r/seduction16/06/17 02:13 AM
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It's not just for attractive girls. I force myself to approach anyone, male or female, regardless of age (above 18, of course), who looks interesting or like someone I'd enjoy talking to. Example: Last night, I went out for beers with 3 friends, 2 female, 1 male (not that it really matters). I saw this huge muscle-fat dude arm wrestling anyone who'd take him on with a huge group around him, I got up, went over to his table and took him on. He kicked my ass handily, but we talked for a few minute…
/r/seduction15/06/17 11:11 PM
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Bomb ass advice. Thanks, man.
/r/seduction15/06/17 12:07 AM
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Btw, I see you all over this sub and really respect your opinions a lot. Thanks for all the input, not just on this thread, but on all the ones you comment on.
/r/seduction14/06/17 05:30 PM
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Sure, that makes perfect sense. I know that from a theory standpoint, and try to do it. But if things are going well in the interaction, I lose track of my pickup theory, and go on autopilot. The problem I'm facing is that this "performing" IS my autopilot, and I catch myself in the act. Any tips on how to preempt it before it starts, or am I just going to have to keep catching myself until eventually it clears up over time and practice?
/r/seduction14/06/17 05:29 PM
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That's a good analogy. I will focus on not trying to evoke a particular emotional response by performing, and instead work on empathy so I can sense whatever emotions she's feeling naturally.
/r/seduction14/06/17 01:58 AM
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Agreed. If there is a significant gap in skill level, one guy will be really successful and the other will be down and butt hurt. I'd rather go out solo or with a group than with a designated wingman.
/r/seduction11/06/17 04:42 AM
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What kind of stuff? Like, going out on dates and doing interesting things? Sexual stuff? Need more info to know what you're talking about.
/r/seduction11/06/17 12:09 AM
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Women will tell you this: "I hate when a guy asks me to hang out. If you're interested in me, ask me on a proper date." In my anecdotal experience, this is complete horseshit in practice. As /u/kalolilo said, asking a woman on a date only will work if she's already super attracted. If you are trying to isolate her in order to build attraction in the first place, you have to say "hang out" or "go grab some tacos" or something like that. The word "date" is loaded with social pressure in her head, …
/r/seduction10/06/17 02:50 PM
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I'm, uh, having trouble imagining what your peacocking...outfit...looked like. I think if you posted a picture, we could all post it on 4ch--um...I mean, give you tips and advice.
/r/seduction08/06/17 05:22 AM
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Haha I couldn't find the hole my first time. And actually, a few times when I've been drunk, too. Honestly, if she's at the point where she's having sex with you, she's going to meet you halfway. If it's clear you're fumbling for the hole, she's going to grab your dick and stick it in herself--she's not judging, she wants to get on with it as much as you do at that point.
/r/seduction08/06/17 04:45 AM
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Good question. While every guy has their own laundry list of things a girl can do that make her seem incredibly sexy, I will try to name a few things I think are common threads for the vast majority of guys out there... Take pride in your body and appearance. You do NOT have to be a supermodel (in fact, most guys would probably prefer you weren't). Just stay in reasonably decent shape. I know it's not PC, but in my (fat) experience, women very much expect the same of men, so I'm just being hones…
/r/seduction08/06/17 04:19 AM
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Short answer: "Cool, no worries. See you 'round." Long answer: I have a feeling you're approaching this incorrectly. Don't go for the "big ask." If you've been good friends for awhile, this will blindside her and she'll feel like you've been dishonest with her about your intentions, and she'll likely avoid you for awhile. You don't want her to feel like you've been building these feelings up for her and not telling her about it. A strong man is forthright with his intentions--if he is attracted …
/r/seduction07/06/17 05:56 AM
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Dude, I love older women for this reason. I'm about your age (31), and some of the most fun, carefree dates and sexual experiences I've had have been with women in their forties. They know what they want, and they're not shy about it. Your job is to be the fun younger guy and be totally unphased by the age difference. She's down to fuck, and you're going to have an awesome time as long as you keep your cool and show her you're a cool, confident man.
/r/seduction07/06/17 04:31 AM
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Take as many invitations to do fun and social things as you can. Parties, concerts at the student union, going out to clubs, extracurricular clubs and activities, mixers, renting a co-ed house with a bunch of friends, even frats. If you can afford it and it won't cause you to fail a test or miss a class, do it. In college, when you first arrive, nobody really knows anyone else, so this is probably the biggest chance in your life you will ever have to hit the "reset" button on your social life. B…
/r/seduction07/06/17 04:27 AM
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If I lock eyes with a woman and she gives me a sly smile, you better believe that I'm going to talk to her. So sexy, and a clear way to express interest without you actually walking up and initiating on your own. Love it.
/r/seduction07/06/17 04:20 AM
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I've watched more RSD infield footage than I'm proud to admit to. Luke is the "social circle" guy. Super valid and effective way to game, but he almost never actually pulls, gets makeouts, etc. in his videos. He's just always sitting at a table full of hot chicks. I have a sneaking suspicion he's not as successful as some of the other RSD guys who post a LOT of infield footage of actual game--Tyler, Madison, Julien, etc.
/r/seduction04/06/17 05:21 PM
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Congrats, man. It sounds like you're having a blast--I love it. I'm noticing the same thing. After I broke up with my ex about a year ago, I was not having any real results. I had gained a bunch of weight during the relationship (on top of already being kind of fat), and women just were not interested. Just under 2 months ago, I got my shit together, started eating at a deficit, and began lifting weights on an actual plan instead of just screwing around halfheartedly at the gym occasionally (wha…
/r/seduction04/06/17 05:08 PM
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You wanna be a fuckin' sick cunt? Or you wanna be a fuckin' sad cunt, brah? We're all gonna make it, brah.
/r/seduction29/05/17 04:43 PM
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While physical attractiveness plays a role, when it comes to how women see you, you ultimately are as attractive as you think you are.
/r/seduction28/05/17 02:37 AM
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The most "alpha" thing to do is to trust your SO and let them dance with other people. If your relationship is strong, trust is the strongest frame. I also kind of like the "start grinding on him" idea from MonkeyFist.
/r/seduction27/05/17 08:07 PM
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Nah, I was just drunk and listening to my hiphop station while browsing the sub.
/r/seduction27/05/17 07:23 PM
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Women really like spending time with guys who teach them how to Dougie.
/r/seduction27/05/17 12:09 AM
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I mean, it doesn't happen often, unless you are super hot/ripped/look like a model, and even then not near as much as you would think. The best way I've found so far to get a girl to make the first move on me is to teach her how to Dougie.
/r/seduction27/05/17 12:06 AM
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To answer your second question, a good way to communicate with and get to know anyone, including other men, is to offer to teach them how to Dougie.
/r/seduction27/05/17 12:05 AM
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Great job, man! I like the British accent thing--good way to get her laughing. Just remember, fortune favors the bold. So next time, instead of taking the safe route and asking for her Facebook, just bite the bullet and teach her how to Dougie!
/r/seduction27/05/17 12:02 AM
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Any bar that's got a good dance floor so you can teach her how to Dougie.
/r/seduction27/05/17 12:00 AM
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Man, you should have taught her how to Dougie. Try it next time and report back.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:59 PM
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It's kind of hard to teach a girl how to Dougie over Tinder.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:58 PM
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When I went to Colombia, the best way I figured out how to get laid was, any time I met a hot girl, I would teach her how to Dougie.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:58 PM
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Have you tried teaching her how to Dougie?
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:57 PM
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You should teach them how to Dougie.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:55 PM
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Teach her how to Dougie.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:55 PM
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It can be hard if you're used to being friendzoned. It's a tough lesson to learn, but all your really need to do is put your arms out front, lean side to side. She gon' be on you when she see you hit that Dougie right.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:52 PM
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She'll ask you to teach her how to Dougie.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:49 PM
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Teach her how to Dougie. That's how I do a move.
/r/seduction26/05/17 11:47 PM
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I was 26. She was only the 3rd woman I'd ever slept with, the first 2 were girlfriends when I was 15-17 and then 20-22.
/r/seduction25/05/17 04:04 AM
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My first fuckbuddy. We only got together 5 times before she ended up getting engaged to another guy, but it was just 100% totally, incredibly awesome while it lasted. We met up at a bar, laughed and drank for a couple hours, went back to my place and fucked the night away, drove to Jack in the Box for tacos at 3 AM, had sex again, and I drove her back to her car in the morning. There were no heavy feelings or "what are we"--just awesome sex (and the best head I've ever had to this day) and joyfu…
/r/seduction25/05/17 03:36 AM
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It sounds like you have a good lifestyle and framework to build off of, so keep learning game. You're not the guy who was the target audience of the post I wrote yesterday. It sounds like you have it together to some degree. I'll bet that for every 1 of you on this sub and reading pickup in general, there are 20 guys who haven't got anything going for them and spend 6 months pining after a oneitis who they've never expressed interest in and wouldn't even know what to say if she actually did talk…
/r/seduction24/05/17 01:08 PM
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If you're just looking for a hookup, it doesn't really matter whether or not they have kids. There are attractive women over 30 with kids who are just looking for a guy to hook up with as well. I hooked up with one of them a couple weeks ago. It was awesome. When we were done, she didn't even stick around to cuddle--just pulled her panties back up, kissed me goodnight, and went home.
/r/seduction24/05/17 12:11 PM
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For Harambe.
/r/seduction24/05/17 12:04 PM
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Nobody ever said you have to be a kale-smoothie drinking millionaire with ripped abs and juggling 15 hobbies. Women don't expect us to be Richard Branson. What they do expect is that we have some idea of who we are, what we're about, and what we are working toward. Are there coked out jobless losers with nothing going for them who get laid a lot? Yes. Are there severely overweight guys who bang supermodels 4 nights a week? Yes. Do these scenarios happen often enough to where they should be our m…
/r/seduction24/05/17 11:56 AM
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Lol love it.
/r/seduction24/05/17 03:50 AM
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I'm not generalizing you, man. I get it. I'm in almost an identical situation. Racked up about 40 grand in student debt years ago, and due to some struggles with depression, dropped out of college and never graduated. Instead I got into retail, became a manager as fast as I could, and went to restaurants solely because it paid more. I worked 60+ hours per week, every week, for several years, and flipped stuff on eBay on the side. I was "lucky" enough to have the loan company charge off a decent …
/r/seduction24/05/17 03:47 AM
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The guy you are talking about, in the circles he runs in, is likely viewed as a high value guy, as weird as that sounds. He probably talks smoothly, makes friends easily, comes across as very masculine, and makes a great first impression on low value girls whose only real requirement for a sex partner is masculinity. His masculine identity comes from delusion--he has nothing to back it up, but still thinks he deserves sex with a woman. I would bet you that the vast majority of these guys never s…
/r/seduction24/05/17 03:34 AM
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Girls say stuff like "fuck you" all the time when flirting. You've aroused an emotional response. And the "You're so cocky" is a challenge, known in the old days as a "shit test." And judging by your initial answer, you passed. I think if you made an error at all, it was backing down and saying you were just being silly. Stand by your cockiness--don't be an asshole, but hold the "I'm the shit" frame that you've established.
/r/seduction24/05/17 01:27 AM
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You just put this idea so perfectly and succinctly. Thank you!
/r/seduction24/05/17 01:11 AM
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You should only be texting her (or any other girl) to set up dates and hangouts. Endlessly texting a girl, no matter how flirty she seems, means exactly nothing.
/r/seduction23/05/17 09:32 PM
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OP, I know this comment can sound mean, but realistically, you need to be prepared for it to be true.
/r/seduction23/05/17 02:59 PM
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Focus on becoming the dude who all those girls think is funny, charming, charismatic, etc. If you can shift the attention of just a few of them onto you, you can shift the attention of the whole group, which all of them will find attractive.
/r/seduction23/05/17 06:29 AM
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The point is that a girl forms her impression of you VERY quickly, and it is usually pretty much impossible to change it unless there is a long period of time in which she doesn't see or interact with you--I'm talking several months. If you do not give her the impression of being a confident, high value, sexually worthy man from the beginning, your chance is shot, so learn from the experience and move on to the next one.
/r/seduction23/05/17 06:26 AM
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Are you on an actual workout plan in which you log your exercises, making incremental strength gains in different movements each week, constantly challenging yourself and improving, or are you just going in and doing whatever you feel like that day? I did the second option for years and saw pretty much no results. It was only when I finally got serious and started tracking and gamifying my progress that I started to see the real changes.
/r/seduction23/05/17 06:23 AM
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High school is a little bit of a different animal because everyone knows each other for 4 years, sometimes much longer as many people have known each other since elementary school. If you already know her very well and are close friends with her, I'd say maybe look elsewhere. The exception to this is coming back a new man after not talking to her all summer--new haircut, new style, maybe working out a bit, etc. It's like hitting the reset button on a girl's impression of you, and can work very w…
/r/seduction23/05/17 06:20 AM
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Oh, sorry, I was envisioning a large office-type environment. Yeah, just ask her face to face. I would not use the word date, because I've found among women any younger than me (I'm 31) it comes across as big, scary, and committal. Just say, "Hey, I'm going out for coffee after work. Come join me."
/r/seduction23/05/17 06:14 AM
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There is no borderline. It has almost nothing to do with what you say. You can really say just about anything as long as it is congruent with the energy and vibe you are bringing. Watch the first 3 minutes or so of this short RSD Jeffy video to see this idea in action--warning ahead of time: he comes off as kind of a douche, but he's the epitome of the "it doesn't matter what you say, as long as you say it right" school of thought. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdipRFDlzOk
/r/seduction23/05/17 06:07 AM
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If you're okay with messing around with a girl who has a boyfriend (which I do NOT advocate for, because how would you feel if some dude was trying to hit on your girlfriend after he already knew about you?), then you'd brush this off as a shit-test, hang out with her, continue building attraction and seducing as normal. Or just don't try to fuck girls who say they have boyfriends.
/r/seduction23/05/17 05:55 AM
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You are right. Building a meaningful connection with someone is something that takes place over a period of time, and gets stronger the more it is focused and built on. A relationship can be a meaningful connection. But so can a friendship. This sub is about attracting and seducing women, and attraction happens VERY quickly--usually within a period of a couple hours or less, often under 15 minutes. A meaningful connection in the absence of attraction = friendzone. And these "high quality women t…
/r/seduction23/05/17 05:42 AM
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Shoot her an IM or email if you have company accounts. Tell her you think she's attractive, and would love to meet for coffee Tuesday at 7. My friend Ben did this with a coworker who he had only met briefly a few times, and now she's his gf. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
/r/seduction23/05/17 05:33 AM
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Are you doing any strength training, even calisthenics/bodyweight stuff? When I was only losing weight through cardio and diet, I was definitely smaller, but I didn't feel much more attractive. Since I started lifting a couple months ago and seeing noticeable changes in my musculature and physique, I feel...don't laugh...sexy. Like, I really like looking at myself in the mirror and admiring the results of my hard work. My chest and arms are bigger, my gut is smaller, my chin is less fat. I just …
/r/seduction23/05/17 05:09 AM
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Hey, do what works for you. I've had experiences wherein I touched I put my arm around a girl and she seemed way comfortable, and then jumped right into a kiss and it did not go well. So what has worked for me most often is to escalate bit by bit. Obviously every interaction is unique, so it's not always going to be the same touches on the same places at the same times. But this is just what I've found gets good results at building comfort.
/r/seduction23/05/17 02:01 AM
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On your date?
/r/seduction23/05/17 01:36 AM
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I agree that this is great in the short term. But what I'm referring to are dudes who get so hung up on "that one girl" for months wondering if she likes them when they've never even expressed their interest to her. At that point, their relationship with her is friendly and platonic, and the odds are practically zero that she's just going to have a life-changing epiphany and jump on their dicks one day.
/r/seduction22/05/17 11:08 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree with points 1 and 3. Optimizing one's shit and being secure and self-assured on your own emotions are critical to becoming an attractive high value man. But to me, so is not getting hung up on one woman for an extended period of time. I'm not saying to completely shut off any and all possibility of ever having dating a woman who doesn't respond to you immediately. What I am saying is that there is no reason to waste one's time, attention, and effort on trying to win over a…
/r/seduction22/05/17 11:05 PM
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There are lists of IOI's (Indicators of Interest) out there. Just google it and you will find variations of the same list on a bazillion different forums and websites. My go-to test for attraction is touch. If I've been talking to a girl for a bit and we're laughing, flirting, having a good time, I will grab her hand or put my hand on her arm while I'm telling her a story. If she starts touching me, awesome. A little while later, I might rest my hand on her lower thigh, a bit above the knee. If …
/r/seduction22/05/17 10:44 PM
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Damn right.
/r/seduction22/05/17 10:28 PM
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Sure thing. Here's what I mean. Your strategies in the Build Attraction stage are to 1) demonstrate that you are high value and 2) bring the conversation in a sexual/dating type of direction. Demonstrate high value: This has a LOT to do with confidence and how you present yourself. If you have a high status job or a big social circle, this is the time to drop hints about those things. Essentially, you want her to see that you are a man with demands on his time and attention, especially from othe…
/r/seduction22/05/17 10:13 PM
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Haha, thanks. Isn't it so freeing to just know right away? It's like that book "He's Just Not That Into You" but for guys.
/r/seduction22/05/17 09:10 PM
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Man, I was the worst about this for so many years. I'd hyper-focus on one girl without ever actually making my intentions or feelings clear. These days, if I meet a girl and I can't tell within a day or two if she's really attracted, I move on. 2 weeks is ABSOLUTE max. Not doing this is how guys put themselves in the friendzone, which is completely avoidable.
/r/seduction22/05/17 09:06 PM
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Then do day game. Do what you like.
/r/seduction22/05/17 08:18 PM
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I don't approach during the day. I know it's just me, but I feel really uncomfortable flagging a girl down walking on the sidewalk whose going about her business to tell her "I like her style" or something like that, fumble through an awkward conversation, and hope to get a phone number out of it, which will probably be fake (or she'll never answer) anyway. I do chat up everyone I meet during the day, though--usually this starts with a quick comment to someone in line by me, or talking to the ba…
/r/seduction22/05/17 07:20 PM
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Bam. Right on.
/r/seduction22/05/17 06:53 PM
1

Having your life together (which it sounds like you do) demonstrates a certain level of maturity automatically. In my experience, older women often date younger men because men their own age are boring. So be fun. She was attracted enough to a 27 year old man to get drunk with him and agree to a date--so be 27. Don't suddenly try to act what you think 33 is like.
/r/seduction22/05/17 05:08 PM
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What you are looking for is called an IOI: Indicator of Interest. Check out this old post. The list is from The Mystery Method, one of the best nitty-gritty "how to" books on attraction I've read. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/cortx/heres_a_little_list_of_iois_feel_free_to_add/ Reciprocating (or even initiating) touch is the biggest one in my opinion. Other than that, I look for anything she brings up about me dealing with dating/sex--asking if I have a girlfriend, saying I seem li…
/r/seduction22/05/17 05:04 PM
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Joking and being obnoxious is a great way to open a brand new girl, because it heightens her emotional state and makes her focus on you. Once you have her attention, you have to switch to building attraction--and here, Madison is right; clowns don't build attraction. You can still playfully poke fun at her--not anything truly insulting or even a "neg"; try watching a group of loud teenagers next time you're in public. There is always a charismatic funny guy flirting with the girls in the group, …
/r/seduction22/05/17 04:03 PM
8

Sounds like she's not attracted, knows you are, and is okay keeping you around because she likes the attention and validation you give her. She may genuinely like you as a friend, but she has no intention of ever hooking up with you. As /u/DeLeon06 said, you have definitely been friendzoned. So move on.
/r/seduction22/05/17 03:47 PM
2

It totally is. That's what I finally realized, and why I've dropped 30 pounds and counting.
/r/seduction22/05/17 04:12 AM
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Be fun, not gentlemanly. Excite her, goof off with her, literally pick her up and carry her while playfully poking fun at her. Attraction and sexual tension come from heightened emotions, not from being overly cool or suave. EDIT: I should add In my experience... to this.
/r/seduction21/05/17 11:29 PM
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If you like her, change venues--this creates the feeling of an instant second date, and gets her comfortable with the illusion of spending more time/building more comfort with you. Invite her for a drink at a nearby bar, say "I'm hungry, let's go get a taco," etc. Then continue building attraction and bring her to the final venue--either of your apartments. If you don't like her, say "I have to get going, I've got to get up early tomorrow. It was nice to meet you." Then leave.
/r/seduction21/05/17 11:25 PM
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I think the vast majority of us would rather sleep with that one girl we have a connection with. However, if we don't know how to build sexual attraction among women in general, we are far less likely to find that woman we have a true connection with, let alone be able to attract her when we do.
/r/seduction21/05/17 11:12 PM
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Preach.
/r/seduction21/05/17 11:08 PM
3

Being fat. I've been fat most of my adult life, and that has been a massive obstacle, both because it's unattractive and because it fucked up my confidence drastically. I've recently made huge changes in my physique and am getting better by the week, and as such, my success is improving as well. Being jealous of my best friend. He's always gotten laid left and right by attractive women, despite not being that good-looking, getting fired from multiple jobs, cheating on a couple of girlfriends, ha…
/r/seduction21/05/17 05:44 PM
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Like a lot of guys, opening is the hardest part for me psychologically. I often become anxious about coming off too "approachy" (needy, value-seeking, etc.) when opening a set, so I do a couple of things that help. I break the ice as many times as possible during the day. The guy in the elevator, the whole crew at my local Starbucks, the cute sales girl in the mall, the old lady I see walking when I go for my morning run. These little quick interactions lower my social anxiety as a whole, and ge…
/r/seduction21/05/17 05:27 PM
2

Yasssss. Dude, you'll have a great time. The couple of times I've been with older women have been some of my favorite sexual experiences.
/r/seduction21/05/17 03:50 PM
1

I would definitely agree with that. I am actually lacking the "have your own place" one right now, and I'm still doing reasonably well given the circumstances. I moved in with my dad about 6 months ago to aggressively pay down debt and save money. I'll probably be here another 4-6 months. I'd be lying if I said it didn't suck not having my own place to bring women back to. But it's temporary, and if it's to the point at which you're talking logistics, they are so attracted that they really don't…
/r/seduction21/05/17 02:52 PM
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No, they aren't. And it's not just women in their thirties. While there are a few women here and there who are into that, they generally are not very desirable. You don't have to be super hot, mega masculine, "an asshole" or anything like that. But you do have to be confident, self-assured, well-spoken, carry yourself well, and have your life together to a minimum level (job, car if you aren't in a transit-oriented city, your own place or a roommate situation, at least not living with your paren…
/r/seduction20/05/17 04:10 PM
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Good, I think that will help a lot, if he really is a good friend of yours. And when you talk to him, don't approach it in a whiny way ("You always take all my girls!") Try something like this: "Hey, I've noticed that I will often open a set and talk to them all night, and then you come in later on and close the target for yourself. What are you seeing when you watch us before you come in? What specific things that you observe make you think I'm not going to close it?" And then when he answers--…
/r/seduction20/05/17 03:58 PM
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Wing Rule #4 from Mystery Method: "Remember that if the player cannot advance in any way in the set due to kino lockout, Let's Just Be Friends (LJBF), or a general lack of IOI's, the wing may then attempt to recover the set for himself. Debate who decides before you are infield." Maybe your friend is watching you talking to the same girl all night without any real IOI's (from his point of view) and thinks, since you aren't going to close it, it becomes his turn. If you've been with a set more th…
/r/seduction20/05/17 03:37 PM
3

Ask for the sale. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. This was my problem for years--I would chat the girl up and build rapport, but not ask her out. Or if I did ask her out, I wouldn't touch her or kiss her. All for fear that I would make her uncomfortable and she would not like me, and I'd never have a chance with her. Well guess what? If I never make a move on her, I already don't have a chance with her. Same difference, only with the way I had been doing it, I was guaranteed to not ha…
/r/seduction19/05/17 03:33 AM
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I don't know, man. My dick might be more important to me than even my best friend.
/r/seduction19/05/17 03:10 AM
3

Hey man. I'm right there with you. I'm 5'11" and currently 228 lbs. However, several months ago I was 260 lbs, so 228 is a massive improvement. I have a long way to go to get where I want to be, but I'm well on my way. As a result, my confidence has shot through the roof, I carry myself differently, and I've even gotten laid a few times during that period. I can't WAIT to see how much I can accomplish when I get down to sub-200. I'm not going to tell you you HAVE to lose weight to attract girls,…
/r/seduction18/05/17 06:25 PM
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No prob! Sounds like a great idea.
/r/seduction18/05/17 12:10 PM
1

I'm actually reading The Mystery Method right now for the first time. It was written by Mystery, the dude who Style hangs out with all the time in The Game. It's over 10 years old now, and most of the stuff in it Mystery had been working on for years prior, so some would say the "tactics" are a bit dated. However, reading a well organized and developed manifesto written by one of the guys who brought pickup into the mainstream and is considered a godfather of it is really fascinating. While he d…
/r/seduction18/05/17 12:02 PM
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I get what you mean. Yeah, YouTube is there, but it's primarily filtered by popularity (likes and views) of videos, not very well by actual usefulness or relevance. A hobby site with lots of well curated subsections for different hobbies, each with links to videos, blog posts, affiliate links to related products on Amazon, etc., would be super useful.
/r/seduction18/05/17 11:52 AM
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While I'm not a big fan of all of the RSD guys, I LOVE Tyler. So here's what I like about RSD Tyler is THE best there is infield. While he's definitely not unattractive, he is NOT the conventional idea of "attractive alpha male"--he's a short balding ginger with a grating voice. He own these traits, and uses them to be the very definition of outcome independence, IDGAF, abundance mentality, cocky-funny, and all of the other things that PUA's have been espousing for years. He is the shit, he know…
/r/seduction18/05/17 02:56 AM
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Be your friend's Eskimo Brother! DO IT! In all seriousness, as long as you've cleared it with your friend, and you know he doesn't have the clap or anything, plow away.
/r/seduction18/05/17 01:59 AM
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I don't think I'd be frustrated in this situation. I think I'd laugh it off with her as a misunderstanding, and then say, "Awesome, we can wing for each other" or something along those lines. And then you have a new friend. Some guys (including young me) hate having attractive female friends, because they can't sleep with them. But what they don't realize is that those attractive female friends also have other attractive female friends who WILL sleep with them. Expanding one's social circle with…
/r/seduction17/05/17 02:38 PM
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Dude, run. Turn around and run. You do NOT want to get involved with a girl who you can not only see, but readily admit, that her life is "a mess" and she "doesn't have her shit together." If you have your shit together, go after girls and women who are the same. Before you can be an adequate partner to someone else, you have to be able to take care of yourself. It sounds like she isn't, so she will NOT be a good partner.
/r/seduction16/05/17 06:52 PM
2

Spot on.
/r/seduction16/05/17 06:44 PM
1

Me, too, man. At least in the beginning. But I was introduced to her by a girl I'd slept with and is also now a great friend. They are best friends, and she's straight up told me, "I'm attracted to you, but I don't sleep with guys my best friend has slept with." So I just have her introduce me to her hot friends instead.
/r/seduction16/05/17 03:55 PM
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I'm 31, one of my best friends (HB 8, personality makes her a 9 to me) is 43. She's kind of what you are describing--beautiful fake breasts, big round latina ass, slim waist, and always dressed/made-up to the nines when we go out. On top of all that, she's very open, friendly, easy to talk to, and doesn't have many inhibitions about sex. And she has always liked dating guys a lot younger than her. Like, for a couple years, it seemed like every guy she fucked (which was a lot, she's very "liberat…
/r/seduction16/05/17 03:13 PM
3

I'm a mother lover, you're a mother lover, we should fuck each other's mothers...
/r/seduction15/05/17 07:57 PM
2

She was a girl who I'd gone to middle and high school with, but we'd probably never said more than 2 sentences to each other in all 7 years of that. When we met up for a drink, it was clear in the first 15 minutes that neither of us were looking for a partner, just enjoying being single. Because I didn't feel like I had to tiptoe around her feelings, I was just my normal, crass, silly self--the same way I am with my buddies, and she REALLY vibed with that. She had some major things about her tha…
/r/seduction15/05/17 03:46 AM
1

Move on. Plain and simple.
/r/seduction14/05/17 05:28 PM
1

Same boat, man. I can open just fine during the day, but get stuck and don't know where to go after. At night, I feel like I have permission to be my funny, interesting, somewhat cocky self, and that works very well for me. But during the day, I feel like all girls have these shields up that I just can't break through. I know it's all in my head, and that practice is the answer, but I find myself avoiding day game practice BECAUSE I'm so much worse at it.
/r/seduction13/05/17 04:00 PM
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Hey, no prob, man. The details here help provide some context and framework. I was just going off of what I read in your original post. It sounds like you've got a good head on your shoulders, and you'll go far. Keep it up. :)
/r/seduction13/05/17 03:33 PM
2

No girl ever is going to call the number on a non-business business card some guy slips her. Do the work. Engage her, capture her attention, have fun with her, even if it's just for 3 minutes. Then pull out your phone, start a new contact, hand her your phone, and say "Hey, put your number in my phone." Then immediately text her so it is an exchange.
/r/seduction13/05/17 03:15 PM
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Practice getting into social situations that make you uncomfortable. Strike up conversations with 3 strangers per day (don't make it just girls, anyone will work), and see if you can get these conversations to last at least 3 minutes. Pick a friend who you also wants to work on something similar, and challenge him to the "Penis game" in public. Whatever works for you, just practice being uncomfortable.
/r/seduction13/05/17 03:03 PM
1

No. Instagram is about nothing but shameless "look how cool my lifestyle is" self promotion. In order to effectively use Instagram for game (or even just self-promotion, advertising, whatever), you need to have A LOT of really interesting shit to post on a regular basis. If you don't have sun-kissed 6 pack abs and your day-to-day life doesn't involve sailing around the Caribbean with girls in bikinis, DJing at EDM festivals, or you dead-lifting 405 lbs., your Instagram could actively work AGAINS…
/r/seduction13/05/17 02:48 PM
7

Man, good for you! I hope this changed outlook and energy stays with you for many years. :) My first time did not do that for me. I was 15, and it was with my girlfriend at the time, who I TOTALLY pedestal'ed and treated her like she was a goddess (which was dumb, because she was only 16 and I was #8 for her). So after we had sex, not much changed, except that I was even more crazy obsessed with her. So when she inevitably broke up with my little beta self, I lost it so bad. My outlook and energ…
/r/seduction13/05/17 02:37 PM
3

No. I believe in physical attraction, emotional chemistry, and animal instinct at first sight. Love is something you build.
/r/seduction13/05/17 02:27 PM
2

Glad you got some action and your night got better. A couple thoughts. I'm not going to play moral police here, as this is a pickup forum, but for your own good you might want to shy away from hooking up with girls who have boyfriends, especially if those boyfriends are a few feet away in a public place where lots of his friends are. That could have ended VERY badly for you if she suddenly decided she wasn't feeling it and went and cried to her man--which is a very real possibility seeing as she…
/r/seduction13/05/17 02:23 PM
2

He's got some great stuff. I tend to identify more with Tyler's "crazy obnoxious fun guy" style, but Julien is smooth af.
/r/seduction13/05/17 01:47 PM
2

Have fun, bring high energy and an "I'm the SHIT!" attitude with you everywhere you go. If you are the source of powerful, fun, positive energy, she will naturally want to be around that to feed off of it. That's when she will see you as a sexual interest. "Nice guys" are trying too hard to get a girl to like them, and they can feel it a mile away. Think about the girls you've been attracted to in the past. Did you find them sexy, interesting, and want to have sex with them because they were sup…
/r/seduction13/05/17 12:10 AM
1

Awesome advice. If you don't show clear intent and lead from the beginning, she'll lose interest.
/r/seduction12/05/17 11:57 PM
2

Sure thing. Haven't seen many real field reports here in awhile. Seems like a lot more super newbie questions these days. Which is okay. But I figured contributing might be helpful. :)
/r/seduction12/05/17 11:56 PM
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Got it. Here are a couple things I think may help. Your first priority is YOU having fun. If you are having fun, there is a 95% chance she'll be having fun. If she's not, oh well, you still had fun. And if she is having fun...well, that's what you want! This means... Don't do coffee/drinks, at least not without something fun going on at the same time. Drinks are okay if they are coupled with karaoke, bowling, laser tag, bungee jumping, a monster truck rally, etc. Just something else to laugh abo…
/r/seduction12/05/17 09:33 PM
7

What is your goal here? Are you looking for a girlfriend/wife/something serious, or are you looking for someone to casually sleep with?
/r/seduction12/05/17 04:39 PM
10

If you had said something, you could know them now. Possibly in the biblical sense.
/r/seduction12/05/17 04:29 PM
2

You don't need to be that interesting. You just need to be fun. Fun is cool. Self-amusement is the best way I've found to be fun. If you're having an awesome time by yourself or with your buddies being goofy, joking around, and even being kind of obnoxious (not an asshole, but just obnoxious), you automatically become more attractive to women. Being a fun guy makes her have fun, and since women make decisions based on emotions primarily, you want her emotions to be as fun and carefree as possibl…
/r/seduction12/05/17 03:19 PM
1

Leave high school girls alone. The law doesn't care that you're only 2 years apart.
/r/seduction12/05/17 02:54 PM
1

Swiggity swooty, You go in fo dat BOOTY.
/r/seduction02/10/16 04:59 PM
2

Man, the hardest thing I ever did was get over this idea of "creepy." Girls will say it about ANYTHING, even when they don't really think it, just because girls like to talk shit. It's a social construct. Ignore it. "Creepy" is stalking a girl without expressing interest. "Creepy" is not letting up when a girl has clearly given you hints that she's not interested (short answers, "no thanks" when asked for her number, walking around with her when she's unresponsive). "Creepy" is buying a girl a b…
/r/seduction25/09/16 06:54 PM
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Girls think this is fedorable.
/r/seduction25/09/16 06:48 PM
1

I know, right?! Don't get me wrong--I LOVE Tyler--dude is a prodigy and amazing at what he does. Very inspiring. I just think this is hysterical.
/r/seduction24/09/16 04:02 PM
1

You gonna be a fuckin' sick cunt or a fuckin' sad cunt, brah?
/r/seduction24/09/16 08:03 AM
5

At a bar: "I'm not going outside with you, because if I do, I'm going home with you. And if I go home with you, I'm going to fuck you." 5 minutes later, she came outside with me and followed through on the rest. :P
/r/seduction22/09/16 09:55 PM
2

Really, it doesn't matter how it works. What matters is how happy you are, independent of a girl. Behave how you want to behave, be the man you want to be. When you get there, attractive girls will want to just be around you.
/r/seduction20/09/16 08:20 AM
1

It actually just worked really well for me this past weekend. And bowling, nonetheless, lol. I invited some friends out for bowling, and this girl I'm particularly interested in came because I said "Hey, I'm going bowling Saturday at 8. Come let me kick your ass." She couldn't stop touching me, grabbing my arm, hugging me, etc. While we were walking out, my buddy invited some of us to come back to his place and drink around the firepit in his backyard. She initially said "no thanks, I shouldn't …
/r/seduction20/09/16 08:09 AM
2

"Hey, I'm going bowling Saturday night. Come with me." Assume the date. You got this, man.
/r/seduction20/09/16 07:55 AM
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Dude, you are younger me to a tee. I was always the same way, until my mid-twenties when I figured some stuff out for myself. To begin with, stop worrying about rubbing people the wrong way. This won't happen overnight, and will probably take a long time, but it needs to happen if you ever want to be happy and get what you want out of life, including the affections of the ladyfolk. You are valuing everyone else, including this girl, more highly than you value yourself. You are #1. Period. So act…
/r/seduction20/09/16 07:17 AM
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Disclaimer: Not trying to be a dick at all here. I am genuinely hoping this helps. My advice: Take the attitude they gave you over in /r/askwomenadvice with a grain of salt, but do exactly what they said. Invite her out with you. You've already broken the ice and spoken with her. Forget all this study-buddy mess ask her out. While I don't think you HAVE to throw the word "date" out there (it seems big and scary and committal to some college-aged girls), you should make your intentions clear. Mak…
/r/seduction20/09/16 06:51 AM
2

Thanks for the encouragement! For years it was just a useful tool to keep in contact with old friends and coworkers, and I think it can be again. I just kind of went off the deep end a bit after I broke up with my ex and found my life to not at all look like what it did before we got together. When I had no confidence and felt like a loser, those Likes and comments made me feel funny, interesting, and liked, if only for a fraction of a second. So instead, I've upped my gym regimen (which I'd alr…
/r/seduction20/09/16 06:37 AM
1

Wow, man, that's fucking rough. Sorry to hear your girl cheated on you, but super stoked to hear you've moved on in a big way. Thanks for the good vibes.
/r/seduction20/09/16 06:30 AM
3

Your last paragraph just reminding me of Louis CK's bit about the "going-out-to-get-laid guys." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3yvSaU_ob4
/r/seduction20/09/16 05:30 AM
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