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ScienceTwentyX4/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:01 AM
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ScienceTwentyX4/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:16 AM
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He mass swiped on 7000 women? It's not that surprising that he ignored 191 matches. It's likely that most of the women who swiped right on him were among the least attractive women on the app - which is why he managed to match with them. Also, passing on women doesn't mean that dating isn't terrible for men. They aren't mutually exclusive. If an average looking guy gets 20 likes from women and they're all really unattractive or druggies or whatever, it doesn't mean that online dating isn't terri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:32 AM
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In patriarchal culture males are not allowed simply to be who they are and to glory in their unique identity. Their value is always determined by what they do. In an anti-patriarchal culture males do not have to prove their value and worth. That's so obviously false. It makes me think of people who believe that communism will make everyone rich and equality will rule and life will be amazing for everyone, once the workers unite against the rich oppressors. In other words, it's just utopian nonse…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:00 PM
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On the first video: First, when a new dating app profile is created, they give you a pretty big boost. The first week is the most likes you'll ever get in a single week. Maybe dating apps do that to make users hopeful and make them keep trying. Most guys have been on dating apps for a while and aren't getting anywhere near the number of likes that they got in the first week. So the video is wrong when showing the typical experience of a man on a dating app. Second, and this is very important: th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 06:24 AM
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If you look at mass shootings and people who died protecting others, it's almost always a man. I've seen the numbers in a bunch of different shootings. For example, in the "dark knight" theater shooting, there were four guys who died protecting their girlfriends or friends. Jonathan Blunk: A 26-year-old Navy veteran and security guard who pushed his girlfriend, Jansen Young, to the ground and shielded her with his body. Alex Teves: A 24-year-old who threw himself over his girlfriend, Amanda Lind…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:49 AM
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"I'm innocent because I lack the strength to do worse". It's a lack of ability, not a lack of will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:42 AM
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What happened to your "100000000 to 1" claim or your "it's always a man" claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:39 AM
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Agreed. I've also said before that some of the bad behavior in modern dating is connected to the fact that we don't live in small communities anymore, where people get reputations and where everyone is somewhat socially connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:28 PM
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Yeah, and standards have gone through the roof. It's crazy how many people of our grandparents generation married someone who lived within two miles of where they grew up. Now, people are like "I need to find my soulmate and that will require sifting through a thousand people to find my perfect match, who will simultaneously make me happy and my friends jealous."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:48 PM
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Social media allows the more social MORE social interactions thru social media. I'd argue that the large majority of online social interactions are shallow. We've replaced less frequent but more in-depth interactions with more frequent but more shallow interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:10 PM
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I get the vibe that you're upvoted because women like to see passport-wannabes get knocked down. Overall, though, you're comment is very sad because you're basically telling guys that they're kinda screwed no matter what they do - including if they make the massive effort of going to a foreign country to try to find love. And people are upvoting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:11 AM
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I've seen women posting on Facebook about meeting new women friends. If that isn't your thing, you can join Bumble and use the Bible BFF function. I've known women who met new friends via bumble BFF. Also try Meetup groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:38 PM
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Lol, and probably filled with couples doing "couple activities".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:19 PM
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I've definitely seen women on Facebook reaching out to make new friends. I've also met women who met each other through bumble BFF. And I've seen women-only groups on meetup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:56 PM
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I mean, I suppose you could make the same argument about being black or white in America. "Would you rather be a black kid who's handsome, tall, and born into a rich, loving family, or a poor white kid born into abject poverty and bounced around foster homes?" Yes, all those things are part of the equation, but also, let's not downplay the negative effects of race or gender by trying to overshadow them with other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:33 PM
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A person who is a woman and acts like a woman is treated VERY differently than a man who acts like a woman. This is because both men and women expect men to act a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:29 PM
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This post makes me think of this: "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac" is an immortal quote popularized by former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in 1973. It highlights how influence, authority, and status can act as a powerful catalyst for attraction and desire. Some of the women he dated, despite looking like a potato: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/henry-kissinger-hollywood-love-affairs-power-ultimate-aphrodisiac-1235704158/ What he looked like in 1973: https://www…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:51 PM
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In general, women are more accepting of homosexuality: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/05/5-homosexuality-gender-and-religion/ But I also remember a comedian doing a bit where he says "guys, if you're on a first date with a woman and she's showing you something on her phone and she accidentally shows a picture of her kissing another woman, would you still date her?" Of course, guys don't have a problem with it. Then he reverses the genders. Of course most women aren't okay with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:53 PM
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Stats from tinder insights show that men swipe right on about 40% of women. So, 2 out of 5. Men aren't swiping right on every profile, although there may be some men who do that, and maybe that behavior is more common among college-age guys. Source: https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/format:webp/1*ZQvvMTHiSqQL_LVRXHO8mQ.png Also, men swipe right less than 40% on other dating apps like Bumble and Hinge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:43 AM
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they want a "woman with no makeup"... They're basically saying she needs to be genetically blessed and have the perfect features from birth and look great... So, like the way men have to be those things, since we don't have the advantage of makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:12 AM
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You provided an anecdote of one guy. The other commenter is talking about the collective behavior of millions of men. Data is much more convincing than anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:43 PM
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I don't think this is the concrete example that you're looking for, but your comment reminded me of the booklet that Harris and Walz put out about their policies. Someone noticed that in this book, there were 9 photos of Harris and Walz interacting with everyday people. Every single one of the photos was Harris or Walz interacting with women. It's was kind of bizarre that they didn't have single photo a man interacting with them. It felt very much like a "we only care about women" kind of a vibe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:25 AM
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I think people should go where they're wanted, and dating in the West is pretty awful for men. I don't begrudge those guys for leaving. As long as they're not being dicks - like lying to women about their intentions, i don't care. Besides, the "rich guy romancing the girl" is an extremely common plot in women's romance. It's not just 50 Shades of Gray and Pride and Prejudice. Rich guys of all types are frequently the male lead in women's romance. Example: Male leads in romance novels frequently …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:06 AM
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Comphet in a feminist lens is the idea that some queer women throughout history have experienced societal pressures that result in them acting heterosexual From that description, they shouldn't say that it's just lesbians. Obviously plenty of gay and bisexual men would also be affected by comphet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:43 PM
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Weird. Most of the time that I've seen "comphet" discussed on the internet, it's from women and feminists, not blackpillers or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:36 PM
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Women get similarly contradictory messages, be a girlboss, but be feminine, be a slut, but a wife material etc etc. Admittedly, some of those messages aren't all coming from men, they are sometimes coming from women. "Be a girlboss" - that's coming from women, often women who don't want go be dependent on a man because men (actually everyone) can be unreliable, so trust no one "be feminine" - probably coming from both men and women "be a slut" - I'm sure that's coming from "sex positive female f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:08 AM
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My guess is that it "works" because the man is bending over backwards to make her happy, buy things for her, and become her financial slave. Meanwhile, she can provide little in return. It's settling up the man to be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:46 PM
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That is true. It also goes both ways, since women will talk about the danger of being murdered if they go on a date. The odds of being murdered, especially by a date, are very remote. But women will talk about it being a legitimate fear and reason to fear going on dates. In case it isn't clear: I'm arguing that both fears are overblown.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:21 PM
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The odds are WAY better than 1% for women. I know plenty of guys who are good guys and they struggle with dating. While there are some bad guys out there, the majority of the problem seems to be that women have a negative bias about men, so even if their dating pool was limited to good guys who are roughly at her "level" (based on physical attractiveness, education, income, social skills, etc), she'd still find the large majority of them to be "not good enough" and complain about her dating opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:05 AM
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The average 50th percentile man could chose from any number of 10th percentile women "Just date the ugly, crazy woman with several kids and a perpetually dirty house, bro. If you don't want to, it's exactly the same as a woman who doesn't want to date guys in her own league."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:56 AM
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It's not serial killers, but studies have found that men with criminal records have more children than men without criminal records. Convicted criminal offenders had more children than individuals never convicted of a criminal offense... We conclude that criminality appears to be adaptive in a contemporary industrialized country, and that this association can be explained by antisocial behavior being part of an adaptive alternative reproductive strategy. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:06 PM
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Being good is about being good. Not getting a reward. I disagree with that. Sure, maybe if 100% of the reason that someone did something was to get a reward, then maybe it shouldn't be called "good". But people do things for multiple reasons simultaneously. If someone spent an hour cooking you a meal and they were unhappy that you didn't even say "thanks" or express gratitude, that doesn't mean that they didn't do a good thing because they wanted to be appreciated for it. If you couldn't do a ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:59 PM
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a casualty of natural selection That's such a dumb framing, though. I guarantee that 95% of the people not finding love or having kids are better than some of the people having kids. There are plenty of "People of Walmart" who are having kids and aren't improving the gene pool. To say that ever single person not having kids is improving the gene pool by not having them is objectively and obviously wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:29 PM
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I mean, I think women are purposefully single and child free... who wants to have children right now? There was a study that asked single, childless women in their 40s about their past intentions to have kids. 80% of them said that the reason they didn't have kids was because the right guy didn't come along into their lives. 80% is a very high percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:24 PM
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The fact that you believe that outcome is possible for you means that there is in fact a level of entitlement. What? Simply believing that something is possible for you means you're entitled? So if i believe it's possible that I can drive my car without dying in a fire wreck today means that I'm entitled? The only way for me to be "not entitled" means that I should be certain I'll die in a fiery crash today?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:21 PM
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Most men don’t really read literature by women... Part of the problem is that men and women have different tastes in books. Women read and write a lot of fiction. Men read less fiction. Personally, almost never read fiction by male or female authors, which automatically cuts out a lot of female authors. Here's a graph of men's and women's reading by genre: https://x.com/AlexAndBooks_/status/1625626481903763462/photo/1 I listen to plenty of female musicians and podcasts though. watch women conten…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:35 AM
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Weird flex, but okay. FYI, having friends who are women and being "friendzoned" are not two mutually exclusive things. I've had plenty of female friends over the years. At times, I had more female friends than male friends. Generally, I was not interested in dating most of my female friends. But I'd say that I was "friendzoned" in college by a girl in my circle of friends who I had a huge crush on. We had a short fling after one of her breakups, but she didn't actually want to date me. I decided…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:17 AM
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Lol. Go make a male dating profile on any straight dating app. You'd be surprised how little attention you get and how hard your hard you have to work to keep women's attention. Women who have tried this have been really shocked at how awful it is. I had two friends who had dated for a while. I'd put them at roughly equal physical attractiveness. The female friend could easily get tons of attention on dating apps. She told me once that she went on 50 dates in one summer. (Sounds kind of exhausti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:59 PM
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How dare you make me laugh with a mouth full of For a second there, I was not quite sure how that sentence was going to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:16 AM
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I don't think that's true. I think it was more common in the past for people to meet via dating apps. There was a period in the early days of dating apps when there were lots of women on dating apps because they were new and unknown. I remember a female friend of mine showing off all the likes she was getting on tinder sometime around 2015. After a few years, women became cynical about them. I was going to post some statistics, but it feels like a lot of those statistics about gender ratios on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:31 PM
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In the societies where women compete over men, those men don't do anything to raise their own kids. Seems like a pretty bad deal for women. It's also probably why those societies are still basically in the stone age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 11:19 PM
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Arranged marriage. No it doesn't. Why do people jump to the worst possible interpretation of what someone says? It could simply mean "asking relatives about what they think of this or that person". Reminds me of a study a while back where they asked women whether they wanted to date a hot guy with various toxic traits. Then they asked her if their friend should date that guy. What's crazy is that there was a group of women who wanted to date that guy, but also said they'd warn their friend again…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:52 PM
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almost impossible to tell a good man from bad. That’s why it’s swamp water. That analogy makes no sense. At best, you could say that women are looking for water in unlabelled water bottles, but all those water bottles contain either clean water or swamp water, and you don't immediately know which is which. Saying that men are like swamp water is automatically assuming that most/all men are worthless and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:44 PM
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I agree that maybe a third of men are desperate and have basically no standards, and that's enough to alter the dating market that forces most men into a "race to the bottom" competition if they're trying to date women, but I disagree that you can generalize that into saying that all men suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:40 PM
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Dating abroad is generally better, from what I've heard. American women are much more spoiled for choice. I've even had female friends say that about women in the city where I live. To be fair, I'm also in a city with too many men and not enough women. The gender ratios are better in other places in the US. Also, single moms have more trouble dating than single women. I knew a guy locally who started dating a single mom. She was really nice for the first six months. Gave him the perfect girlfrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:07 AM
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Literally everything you mentioned is a restatement of something on my list. I don't think that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:03 PM
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not being thirsty actually makes you more attractive Not true. Maybe these women don't know that these guys have no standards and think that he's only interested in them. I don't know. But I've seen guys with no standards in women sweet talk their way into bed with women. Having standards or not having standards doesn't make much of a difference, from what I've seen. In some cases, these women KNEW that same guy had slept with her friends, so they weren't totally ignorant. Maybe, in theory, if w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:43 PM
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Yup. Men are very willing to throw each under the bus. Sometimes it's framed as agreeing with women that "most men are bad", and the implication being that "he's one of the good ones".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:29 PM
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I agree with other commenters that these might not be the same men. I know guys who are trying to sleep with pretty much every woman that meet. I also know guys who aren't interested in hooking up with most women. Also, doesn't your argument apply to women, too? Women complaining about dating men because they find most men unattractive (sometimes even saying they think around 1% of men are attractive), but also not lowering their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:27 PM
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Gen Z is generally more conservative than Millenials were at the same age No they aren't. Although there's been a push by conservatives to claim otherwise so that they can pretend that they are winning the next generation. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:51 PM
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Now look around at the world and notice all the gaslighting women have done about women's preferences that has been used against men. It's unsurprising that people are confused when there's such a concerted effort to deny what's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:49 PM
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Every time people deep dive into the lives of incels it's usually a self-inflicted problem You switched from "men's dating problems are self inflicted" to "if you look at incels, their dating problems are self inflicted". Awesome, but completely besides the point. I don't know how to explain this to you better than I already have. Are there guys who are terrible and their dating problems are their own fault? Yes. But you are jumping to conclusions when you say that men's dating problems are alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:59 PM
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I don't even understand what your argument is here. A guy did two million swipes and got only one date. Okay, it seems like the bar isn't in hell for women because almost every single woman is rejecting him. Maybe you'd have a point if this guy was getting lots and lots of dates and having a really easy time on dating apps. But he's not. He's doing horribly on dating apps. Your argument seems to be "this guy is pathetic and he's representative of what every guy is doing". That second part is a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:00 PM
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I don't think that's true. I've seen trans women's profiles on dating apps. I've also seen some of those same women out on dates in my neighborhood on many many occasions. I also have a sibling who's trans and know that she gets way more messages from guys than I ever get matches on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:36 PM
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There were a number of women who used to come on PPD and lash out. I remember one of them was named "HelenisticLady" or something like that. There were a lot of women were on the FemaleDatingStrategy subreddit. Just the other day, I was on Facebook and noticed that one of my female Facebook friends was on some kind group called something like "the male loneliness crisis isn't bad enough", which was obviously a group to talk shit about men. They had over 100k members.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:46 AM
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The old hating the wife jokes have been a thing for a long time I think that's mostly gone out of fashion for decades now. Yeah, if you're looking for examples from the 1960s, then there's plenty of examples. But they aren't relevant in the modern dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:39 AM
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Reminds me of a woman in my old friend group. She said that she gets extremely nervous around any guy that she actually likes. If she was in a room and the guy she has a crush on walks in, she will leave. She will avoid him. She still somehow managed to get into some relationships though. I have no idea how, but things are a whole lot easier for women. A guy who acted like that would end up being an incel. She was in her 30s, by the way. I'm not talking about a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:28 AM
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You guys would be surprised at what you see if you use Tinder as a man. I have never met a rich old dude regardless of how ugly he is who didn't have a gf or wife which definitely says something haha. I'm not sure what you're talking about at all. Yes, they're are definitely rich old dudes without a girlfriend. The key thing is the question: "how low are his standards?" Because, yes, any guy can get a girlfriend if his standards are low enough. The fact of the matter is that money isn't a silver…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:25 PM
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shortening their wives' lives by 1.4 years? Married women live 1.5 years longer than single women. at 65 years, TLE [total life expectancy] for married women was 21.1 years, 1.5 years longer than unmarried women https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7452000/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:32 PM
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Women plan dates all the time for men who show initiative. As a man, I'd say that, in my experience, most first dates are planned by men. Generally, that's true of the first few dates. Women don't do much to plan dates until you've gone on a few dates already. But generally, most first dates don't turn into second dates. So, that means that the "100 dates" thing was probably 80-90 first dates and no second date, and most of them were probably planned by the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:56 AM
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to be with a man who would be happy to be with every single woman in their friend group/university. What makes you think that's how men are? Seems like you're arguing with an exaggerated strawman version. I haven't met a single man who'd be happy with every single woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:48 AM
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I had a female friend get on bumble. She got lots and lots of likes (more than I could ever dream of as a guy on dating apps). She was too scared and uncertain about what to say to actually start the conversation. As far as I know, she never talked to any of the men who liked her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:44 AM
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Yet men cause the majority of crimes. It's bad logic to go from "men do the majority of crimes" and try to turn that around into "most men are doing crimes". If we had a hundred men and a hundred women, and there were three male criminals and one female criminal, then men cause 75% of the crimes. But 97% of men aren't criminals. Yet men send the vast amount of hate in social media through grape dms Years ago there was a study on Twitter users. They found that women were just as likely to harass …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:07 AM
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I don't know the original source of the research, but the study was mentioned in this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wxSmrs5fs&t=83s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:54 AM
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Speaking of breeding, isn't it better for the human race as a whole for even the "mid" women to "leach elite seed" rather than settle for mediocre product? What's interesting is how often women aren't chasing objectively elite men. There are so many trash-tier men that women go for. We all know about serial killers with groupies. It's crazy whenever I see people try to pretend that women are choosing the best and brightest men. When you look at the animal kingdom, do you ever think about the fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:04 PM
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"Let me counter this delusional post with a bunch of equally delusional nonsense."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:57 PM
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Like the online character Tammy. Can you post a link for those of us who don't know who that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:24 AM
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I think the point is that even though men here like to repeat that no men would commit to promicuous women, promiscuous women don't have a problem finding their match I think it just goes to prove how easy it is for women on the dating world. Men like women more than women like men, which leads to a power imbalance and lots of men are going to willfully ignore things they don't like in women in favor of getting dates, a girlfriend, and wife. It's an illustration of the fact that women are largel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:41 PM
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that the 'sluts' in highschool are all married with kids, had kids young, found rich guys and seem genuinely happy, they all take care of themselves too and look great for 40. Lol. Not what I've seen at all. This is so at odds with reality that it feels made up or of thin air. The "sluts" in my high school usually ended up getting knocked up in high school, never getting education beyond high school, becoming a teen mom, sometimes marrying whatever loser she was sleeping with at the time, often …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:36 PM
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Speaking as an atheist, the story doesn't make much sense because it was just people making up stories and coming up with a nice little story to explain the existence of the human race. Also, if Adam could reproduce on his own, then every single human would be a clone of Adam. Genetically and evolutionary, it makes sense that animals reproduce sexually rather than making clones of themselves. The problem with cloning yourself, which a few female animals do if they can't find a mate, is that thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 03:48 AM
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I think it's the opposite: women want to be whatever they want - act feminine or masculine, stay at home or work. Meanwhile, women want men to take on the responsibilities of both genders: have a great job, earn lots of money, be tall and masculine, and also be the caring, empathetic man who's "in touch with his feminine when and only when she wants him to be". For women, they can be masculine OR feminine because "who's to tell her what gender roles she's supposed to conform to" because "that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:15 PM
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Because a lot of men here consider women not being attracted to them to be "misandry." No it isn't. There's lots of misandry that has nothing to do with that. There's plenty of women that love to believe that men are stupid and clueless, and women are superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:49 PM
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Of course they fuel each other. Everyone making excuses as to why "it's not the same" is coping. There's also lots of ways that misandry is acceptable that misogyny is not. Whether it's on TV, in commercials, or in person. Putting down men is way more socially acceptable than putting down women. They call it "punching up" vs "punching down" to frame it as "legitimate", but that's stupid. That's like saying you're allowed to punch someone bigger than you but bigger people aren't allowed to punch …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:43 PM
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because they feel compelled to perform masculinity they will ultimately be left unfulfilled. If there was one message in the movie it was that men will be unfulfilled living in a matriarchy. That's why Ken was such a wimpy ass-kissing simp with zero self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:51 PM
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The Barbies stopped the violence and explained that men have their own worth and life outside of female validation. That's some pretty big revisionist history about what happened. Makes me wonder if you saw the movie or if you're just piecing it together based on what other people are saying about it. The Barbies never "stopped the violence". They deliberately created conflict among the Kens, and the Kens stopped fighting on their own. The Barbies had ZERO role in stopping the fighting. They wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:40 PM
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Yup. Talk about jumping the shark with an exaggerated 99.9% number.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:37 PM
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This conversation reminds me of this social experiment a while back: Woman asking random men for sex: success rate around 30-50% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JJFBtHcBnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBtF3I7fDfU Man asking random women for sex: success rate is 0% (out of 100 attempts) + gets one drink thrown in his face https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxyySRgrYsU
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:04 AM
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"Just World Fallacy" thinking is pretty common on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:23 AM
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Another example of "Just World Fallacy" thinking on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:21 AM
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This comment is that it's seen as positive by people who want to hear that they're all unique and wonderful and different. The problem with it is that, if someone is asking the question "I'm doing worse than I would like in the dating marketplace, and I would like to know what I could do to improve this. What traits will make me more desirable?" it gives absolutely no information because "everyoneeeeee is unique and special!!!!!!" Should a guy lose weight? "Nooooo, every girl has different prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:33 PM
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I mean - there are studies all over the internet about this. The results are pretty clear: men do more work outside the home, and women do slightly less work outside the home and more work in the home. Add it all up together, and (as far as I can tell) women work slightly more hours, although not every source confirms that. The gap in domestic chores is much larger, so a lot of women will talk about domestic work completely separately from paid-work (where men are putting in the majority of hour…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:29 AM
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We're not just talking about SAHM + full-time working dad, though. Many women do part-time work. If a woman is working part-time and the man is working full-time, is it a fair standard to expect domestic chores be split 50/50? Also, "full time" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. 35 hours a week is "full time". So is 50 or 60 hours a week. Studies have also shown that men who work "full time" work more hours per week than women who work "full time" even though they're categorized with the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:03 AM
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Not sure what your definition of "inefficient" is. Traditionalism involves division of labor, and division of labor is efficient. The concept of "division of labor" is one of the major advances that lead to the high productivity of factories in the early 20th century. The major reason that traditionalism doesn't work is that wages have stagnated for decades. Take a look at the increased productivity in the US per capita and then notice that the wealth gains that came as a result of the increased…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 09:14 AM
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Yes, a world of single moms trying to hold-down a job while watching out for her latch-key kids, deadbeat dads, kids growing up without a dad (which is highly associated with criminality), step parents (which is highly associated with physical and sexual abuse - because non-biological parents treat children worse than biological parents do). Sounds like a paradise. Sorry, I meant to write "dystopia". Funny enough, when I was growing up, I was friends with two brothers being raised by their singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:53 AM
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For most of history "traditionalism" was about both members of the couple working. Most people were farmers and in that environment women work too. Huh? When people say "women working" they mean - for money. Under traditionalism, everyone knows that women didn't sit around all day drinking martinis or something. Under traditionalism, women did more domestic work. (It's still work, but not PAID work.) Everyone knows that. My grandparents were farmers, so I can comment on this. Grandpa did all kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 08:47 AM
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Are women forced to say "yes" to every marriage proposal? If not, then women are gatekeeping marriage, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:24 AM
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They linked a source that said there are 100 single (unmarried) women for every 88 single men. What's your source for that? Because it isn't true. Okay - let me clarify: it might be true if you're taking all the single men and women of all age-groups because women often out-live their spouses, so there are a bunch of single 80+ year old women. That's dumb to include them in the "single women" category as far as dating goes when it's obvious that people are talking about the dating-market for 20-…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 10:53 PM
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By that logic, then every man who has casual sex is ALSO being used as a dildo for a woman's pleasure. And by the logic, men are being used, too. Why is it that if a man and woman both enjoy casual sex, it has to be spin-doctored into "the woman is being used as a fleshlight" but not the reverse? It seems like a manipulative way of framing things in order to arrive at one specific conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:39 AM
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The second piece of evidence seems to be data from online dating, which includes the famous okcupid ‘study’ even though the same study actually showed the messaging distribution for women was more skewed by attractiveness then for men. That's not actually what the data says, as I explained in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ot4qzd/what_the_okcupid_data_really_says/ The messaging data is surprisingly equal - although you also have to take into account that the larger…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:43 PM
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A society with a low population Not sure what you mean by low population. Japan is very populated - nearly 4x the population density of California. Did you mean low population growth (actually negative population growth)?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:53 AM
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Correct. Whenever I see posts or comments like this, I immediately think of an analogy of people being unhappy working for low wages while rich people get richer: "People don't like how difficult it is to live on minimum wage; they want at least $15/hour. The solution is for all the poor people to collectively refuse to work for less than $15/hour. That would fix the job marketplace." Yeah, technically that's true. But, there's no way that hundreds of millions of poor people are all going to col…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:48 AM
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The average American man is now 198 pounds and stands 5 feet 9 inches tall. He has a 40-inch waist, and his body mass index is 29, at the high end of the “overweight” category. That's nice and all, but taking average weights is misleading. If there are 4 men with a weight of 150 pounds and 1 man with a weight of 400 pounds, then the "average man" is 200 pounds. Here's an more detailed chart of men's weight: https://halls.md/chart/MenWeightWhite.gif It shows the median weight of men across ages f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:36 PM
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A quick google search shows that men in Canada are 5'10" on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:29 PM
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While there's certainly a market for black men with big dicks, BUT I've also seen plenty of people complain about how black men are largely discriminated against in the gay community (i.e. gay men tend to avoid black men). And the OKCupid data also shows that black guys are **on average** less attractive than white men. This chart ( https://i.huffpost.com/gen/2054856/original.jpg ) shows that black men are rated lower than white men by all women with the exception of black women. Of course, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:26 PM
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I doubt that. Maybe your generalized views of black men are too shaped by seeing athletes on TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:21 PM
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There was a video about the fattest country on the planet. It was a country in the Pacific. They used to be all fit and skinny, but their diet changed. In modern times, the most popular drink there was a high-sugar, high-fat coffee drink - think a Starbucks Mocha. People loved it. It was obvious that the tremendous amount of calories and the eating for pleasure (because they liked sugar rather than eating in response to hunger) was driving obesity rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:17 PM
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Interesting. Although it should also be mentioned that average weight is NOT the same thing as median weight. It's easy to throw off the average weight by having extra-heavy people in the sample. It's not easy to have extremely skinny people throw-off the numbers because you can't get too skinny without dying. In other words, if the average weight is 200 pounds, those numbers can include 300 pound men, but not many 100 pound men because they'd be dead. Here's a chart of weights by age. The media…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:14 PM
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In Walmart, that cane is referred to as a "scepter", because he is truly a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 08:03 PM
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I certainly know women with long lists of attributes that they want in a man. It's not necessarily the 6'6 chad (although that helps more than they would like to admit). I once asked a female friend of mine what she was looking for in a guy, and she started to write down various attributes. I literally stopped her when she reached 30 different attributes. In my head, I was like, "Jesus". (Not surprisingly, many years later, she's still single.) Also, by framing the issue as "And they have every …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:16 AM
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Funny, the other day I had a random thought that people who are perfectionists are likely to bring that perfectionism to their dating life - as in, feeling like they need to meet the "perfect" partner. There's research that shows that people who are perfectionists are also less satisfied when they have lots of options because they feel the need to pick the very best option. So, I googled the rates of perfectionism in men and women. Not surprisingly, perfectionism was higher among women. Accordin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:08 AM
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There’s no reason a man would come up besides being physically attracted ie not enough substance for a date. First of all, whether or not he wants to go on a date with you is still up in the air. Also, a date is not a marriage. Not sure why you're treating it like you're both contractually obligated to go on a date simply because some guy found you attractive enough to start a conversation. I've found some women annoying or dumb after talking to them and didn't really feel like going on a date. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:56 AM
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I guess, it's effective for dating like a lotto ticket is an effective way of earning income. Seems like a poor analogy considering that you'll spend more money buying lotto tickets than you'll earn in income. Maybe if you could get lotto tickets for free it would be a better analogy, since pickup costs no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:51 AM
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Men being attracted to attractive women: "Men are shallow assholes only like women for their appearance.". Women being attracted to attractive men: "it's only natural that a woman would be attracted to attractive men". Such ridiculous double-standards on this sub. I don't get frame it as a negative when a woman is checking me out at a club, or assume she's shallow because she's attracted to me based purely on my physical appearance when she knows nothing about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:46 AM
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Some of the women here are bitter and want to talk shit to men. Part of that is always assuming the worst intentions. Insulting men is their method to express their anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:41 AM
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You're full of shit. I also think you meant to meant to post in "Penthouse Forum Letters" where all the lusty fiction goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:19 PM
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He could be going on dates with women that are significantly less attractive than him, would would explain why they're so DTF. He doesn't even have to be very hot, just much more hot than the girl he's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:07 PM
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He still has the preferences he grew up with, and Kanye did not grow up with money. That's a common pattern for men's preferences to remain static. Most people who grow up poor continue to be poor for the rest of their life. If you did a poll to see what men like the "thicc" look and compared it against income and education levels, I guarantee that men making six+ figures and have advanced degrees are the most likely to like slim women, and men making less than $30k and have high-school educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:43 AM
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Look at the men virtue signaling just as badly as women in this thread. Truth is, if you judge by men's actions, the Kardashian look right now is the most guaranteed way to gain a following and make money off your looks. Completely irrelevant. It doesn't prove that the majority of men like that look. Generally speaking, the Kardashian look appeals to trashy men. You can make money from trashy men. That's all it proves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:36 AM
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Man here. Kim's ass is as attractive as a dumpster fire. Absolutely awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:29 AM
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But Thicc is in and pretending it isn't is one of the reasons the PPD boomer squad is so hilariously out of touch. Only among poor, trashy men. Studies prove this to be true: higher income and higher educated men prefer slim women. Black guys and lower-class white guys like "thicc" women. The fact that it's even spelled "thicc" tells you a lot about the social class and the spelling abilities of the men who like those kinds of women. Men with higher incomes showed stronger preferences for women …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:16 AM
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You forgot the "/s" tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:07 AM
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Men these days do what? Go to work. Come home. Watch TV. Play video games. Work out. Watch sports. Mess around on their phones. ... The average man isn't really doing anything masculine. You listed "go to work" and "working out". I think both of those things are valuable and working out does lead to being more masculine. It's also a hell of a lot better than watching TV. Yet they want to be seen as masculine men. No, they want to be seen as attractive men. Women give such conflicting signals abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:52 AM
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certainly don't cheat in overwhelmingly higher numbers than women Women cheat as often as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:13 AM
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Accepting reality doesn’t mean it will make you happy or satisfied, or that you have to do anything about it Kind of an obvious strawman. The argument being made isn't that "accepting reality will make you happy", rather it's that "denying reality will make you unhappy". If I thought that I was the world's greatest musician, but nobody else sees it, and I'm a victim of the world's inability to see my talent, and it's depriving me of wealth and fame, it's going to be a really shitty life for me. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:11 AM
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I know women who have no desire to ever have children. And they seem to be the least interested in marriage. It very obviously wrong to say that "women who are single don't mind it". Because I certainly know quite a few women in the "I wish I found someone, but can't/haven't" camp. Some of them are also very unhappy that their time is running out as they approach or pass 40. Saying that women who are single are happy and women in the past only got married out of economic necessity is clearly jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:03 AM
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That may be, but the solution is very different. Saying that men are bad implies a certain moral judgement. It also implies a different solution. It's long been the claim of women that men are somehow broken and deficient. I can tell you for a fact that a fair number of decent guys get passed over. If, on the other hand, the narrative is that women are picky and difficult to please, then the solution and discussion changes in a way that is judgmental of women and less judgmental of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 05:56 AM
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Now a woman can’t even have a former BOYFRIEND. It’s gone from “cock carousel” to now God forbid she has a former boyfriend. I think you're strawmanning it. I can’t even imagine any sensible person actually telling their current partner “I wished I dated you when you were hot.” I'll agree with that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:14 AM
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Since the text of the post was removed, here you go: My boyfriend and I have been together since January of 2020 the lock down really sped up our relationship and we have been talking about getting engaged. My boyfriend and I are both decent looking people now. My boyfriend works as a physician and I am in physical therapy. We were looking through my Facebook, now photos of my ex's I have either removed them or untagged myself. While we were going through my Facebook we went to one of my friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 06:57 AM
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Yeah, I find it a huge turn-off. Here's the thing: I've been in quite a few dating-app conversations where women have stopped responding. I started doing this thing where I'd call them out on it (trying to walk a line between not sounding angry, but also being quite direct). I was basically "calling her out on her bullshit". It is fucking weird how many girls responded positively to it. It made me really think there's something to the RedPill idea that women want a dominant authoritarian. It als…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 06:42 AM
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and are still vastly more overweight than women. Uh, what? You know that all three of those categories have to be added-up? According to that graph, men are more likely than women to be in the overweight (25-30 BMI category), but a lot of that has to do with the fact that a lot more women are in the severely obese category (40+ BMI). They're SO overweight that they've skipped over the overweight and obese categories and have gone all the way into the severely obese category. Did you notice the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:55 AM
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The wife stays a fit bombshell That seems really unlikely. I've known people who were swingers. I've never seen a non-fat swinger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 05:26 AM
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He uses the "KKK" argument because it's convenient and it allows him to demonize anyone who says what he doesn't want to hear. That's it. That's the only reason he throws around the "KKK" slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:31 PM
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Black men were more likely to be married than white men up until the 1960, then the marriage rate dropped of significantly. Looking at the fast rise in these numbers shows that very few black men are getting married now: https://secureservercdn.net/104.238.69.231/pg2.00d.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Black-Men-Historical-Marriage-1890-to-2010.jpg This says to me that socioeconomic class isn't the major factor that you say it is - since black men are wealthier now than anytime in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:20 AM
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I don't know why any guy would be turned off by a lack of social media - except for the possibility that you're lying about not having social media (i.e. you're cheating and your social media would reveal that you have a boyfriend/husband). Of course, I think guys tend to be less worried about that if they're just looking to hookup or something. I had a girlfriend years ago who had Facebook but no Instagram or any other social media. She was also a massive cheater who was juggling multiple guys.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:59 AM
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Racist fake stats. Then look them up. Is "facts I don't like" your definition of "racist"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:37 PM
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"58% of black children versus 21% of white children are living absent their biological fathers." Source: Family Structure and Children’s Living Arrangements. Current Population Report. U.S. Bureau July 1, 2012. "73% of all Black children are born to unmarried parents." Source: CDC National Vital Statistics Reports, Births: Final Data for 2010 Not sure what you're talking about. Black men are high-risk as far as relationships go. The lowest marriage rates of any ethnicity in the US. The highest d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:31 PM
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No its mostly genetic. Nah. In the past 20 years in the US, obesity rates are up 40% and severe obesity has doubled. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/351-400/db360-fig4.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:19 PM
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Something is obviously happening that isn't genetic. Seems to me that people are eating worse, eating more, and exercising less. In the US in the past 20 years, obesity rates are up 40% and severe obesity has doubled. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/351-400/db360-fig4.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:17 PM
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She could be a butter face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:06 PM
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It does happen but you need enough friends. It's more than that. You need the right type of friends - mostly a women who are very pro-marriage. I've been set-up a few times, but I think in all cases it seems like it's always "my friend is super great and deserves a guy" (read: not that attractive or is kind of crazy, but her friend loves her because of the friendship and emotional support they've given each other over the years). I've never gone on a second date with any woman I was setup with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:33 AM
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by many commenters that men are these paragons of virtue and women are duplicitous parasites, bleeding them dry and then disappearing on a whim Seems like a relatively rare viewpoint. saw bullying by boys and girls and by a country mile boys were worse, there was a special flavour of sadism that coated their bullying; whereas girls would just exclude and humiliate I don't know about that. I've heard stories of girls who were best friends with a girl or a group of girls suddenly deciding to expel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 06:14 PM
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LMAO most kpop idols are not rich. This is true. Although they present as rich and famous, and if someone believes it's the case, then they act in accordance with that belief. There's plenty of people who have faked being rich, and they still get treated like rich people. (People don't have some magical truth beam that allows them to see actual reality.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:28 PM
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the red pillers and the black pillers, the men who are in the closet, and won't accept that they are homosexuals, are sexually attracted to. Ad Hominems are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:24 PM
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he reads some comment that is critical of males and he instantly jumps to "must be a butthurt lady" And when women are critical of women, I'm sure they get accused of being one of the following: being a man larping as a woman, being a pickmesha, or having internalized misogyny. because men can do no wrong, all hail the men That's interesting because I see women doing the exact opposite: women can do no wrong in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:22 PM
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I don't think there is any widespread "obsession" with K-Pop stars in the West. It's a niche thing. Also, feminine guys do better with young girls who are just starting to transition from "I hang out with other girls all the time" to "I'm starting to like guys". Feminine guys are basically a starting point for girls who are just starting to like guys. Additionally, a lot of younger guys are relatively feminine (skinny, little/no facial hair, no big muscles, etc) compared to men in general. Edit:…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:11 PM
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I mean, depending on how that stuff is marketed and designed, I could believe that, too. Companies are putting more chemicals into cigarettes and junk food to make them more appealing. And companies try to make people feel bad or feel FOMO to sell products. It depends on how hard they push it, though. Personally, I'm a little suspicious of gambling and casinos, too. Years ago, I was contacted by a company who made slot-machines. (I'm a software developer.) In case you don't know, slot machines a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:21 PM
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Meat: Many are prepared to buy the meat in the supermarket, but are not ready to slaughter the animals themselves. Again fear plays a big role here. This wasn't really connected to my argument. I wasn't talking about people slaughtering their own food. Also, on the same note as veganism and vegetarianism, there's also the fact that a lot of people are trying to avoid things like factory farms and inhumane treatment of animals. Personally, I don't eat veal or foi gras because those conditions see…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:09 PM
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That seems like a very libertarian view of things. I think there's plenty of things in the economy that ends up harming consumers. Is the selling of sugar in everything actually good for you? It is exploiting your short-term desire (tastes good!) over your long-term interest (your health)? There's also hidden factors involved. You could claim that people in the 1950s were benefitting from smoking, and that's why they did it. Of course, they were likely ignorant of the lung cancer that would come…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:21 AM
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Meh. I don't buy that narrative. Although self-interest certainly does play a role in tipping the scales of our judgement in whatever is in our favor. That's not to say that human reason is purely at the service of whatever in in our own self-interest, however. People will often recoil at the idea of being purely selfish and harmful to other people even in cases where it benefits us. There was a book I read a while back called "The Honest Truth About Dishonesty". In it, they talk about all kinds…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:03 AM
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in 1974, the Equal Credit Opportunity Act passed which was supposed to prohibit credit discrimination on the basis of gender. Before its passage, many banks granted credit cards to women only with their husbands' signatures and outright refused to issue them to unmarried women. I guess. Although it seems to me that, even without feminism, all banks would ultimately issue credit cards to women simply because it's good for their financial bottom line to get as many customers as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 04:52 AM
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feminism rocks and i don’t wanna be with any guy who says or thinks otherwise because by definition that means they view me as less than them rather than equal. I think you'd need to talk to him and find out his exact views, because that seems like jumping to a conclusion. I have some views that would be categorized as "feminist", but other views that conflict with feminism. I would definitely NOT categorize myself as a feminist, and think that the term bring a whole lot of baggage and obligatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:02 AM
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not a flashlight Indeed. I would not want to be a flashlight, either. I'm not even sure where the batteries or light bulb would go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:49 AM
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World men created? Is it only a "world men created" when talking about the ills of the world, and sexist and exclusionary to say "world men created" when we talk about the good things about the world? Feminists often talk about how f*cked society is because the world was created by the patriarchy. It just seems super weird the way people accept or reject the phase "the world men created" depending simply on whether "the world" is being framed as good or terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:37 AM
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> a lineage of a mutant asexual female that simply clones herself into daughters would grow at twice the rate of her sexual competitors. To be clear: they're saying that cloning yourself passes on 100% of your genes, whereas, sexual reproduction means you only pass on half of your genes. From a Darwinian selfish-gene standpoint, you are better off cloning yourself. In the first part of the book "The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature", they talk about this issue and suggest some po…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:09 PM
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I don't know if that's true for PPD, though. Women tend to dominate subs related to relationship stuff. And PPD does involve a lot of male/female relationship stuff in a more generalized / less personalized way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:47 AM
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I think the post is exaggerating, but there are some messages I've seen on the internet promoting this kind of stuff. The "If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" always feels rather toxic. A while back, I was on a dating app, and some woman mentioned that she was a big fan of Derrick Jackson. I looked him up, and he's instagram famous ( 1.2m Followers ). While he doesn't always give women a free-pass to do whatever they want, he does promote some bad stuff about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:31 AM
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Half of the problems listed are relationship issues, not workplace issues. And relationship issues are what I hear women complain about most. Women could avoid those problems if they avoided men - in the same way that MGTOW avoid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:40 AM
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I had seen an article a while back saying that there's a dip in their careers of porn actresses around their late 20s because they're too old to be seen as "young women" (a popular category), but too young to be in the "Milf" category (also a popular category). I don't believe for a second that mid-20s porn actresses are considered "aged out". Maybe they're just in that weird dip between being young and being in milf porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:16 PM
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Human interaction, which we call society, is a non-stop 24-hour lie-fest. I hope you don't think I'm gaslighting you when I ask "how is this even surprising to you?" This isn't at all true. Although I did see a study recently which said that women lie more often than men, and women used lying for improving social interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:12 PM
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Funny, the other day I was watching a YouTube video where the guy was talking about getting more matches on Tinder. He's a body-builder type guy. One thing he said was very important was that when a guy poses with his shirt off, it is very important to have a legitimate reason to be shirtless. The picture he used was a picture of him as a genie. The costume choice gave him reason for him to be shirtless. Using the shirtless-genie pic dramatically increased the number of likes he was getting. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:08 PM
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In the neighborhood where my US boyfriend lives So, you're a woman? I think that also has to be taken into account. Edit: Lol. Not sure why you're downvoting me. It's obvious that men are friendlier to women than women are to men. I've had plenty of experiences or seen plenty of cases where women were hostile or insulting to a man who approached them in the US. I remember one case where a guy walked up to talk to a female friend of mine and she literally said to him, "Get away from me or I will …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:24 AM
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I see plenty of women and children in this picture: https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/afghanistan-taliban-refugees-08.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 07:40 AM
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he saw in the news She. Her avatar is clearly a female, has posted on "women only" posts, and talks about dating guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 07:35 AM
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“Fun to be around” is vague as hell. You might as well say “personality” I don't know how you can make that argument. "Personality" is wayyyyyyy more vague than "fun to be around". That's a silly comparison. You might as well say every attribute is "vague". What does tall mean? Seems vague. What does athletic mean? It's vague. So is “attractive-ish”. Huh? It means "not below average in looks" - although it obviously depends on the man and his attractiveness. If he's a "10" in looks, his demand f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:49 AM
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This isn't due to how picky women are, it's due to how unpicky men are. I don't even blame men for that. The fact of the matter is that when there's a lot more men than women on the app, then getting any attention as a man is difficult. So some guys just start being really not-picky as a way to compensate for the fact that the playing field is so biased against men. I'm not saying that I do that. Because I still think it's a waste of my time to match with women I don't like. But I also don't fau…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:26 AM
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but at least 4-5 per day. [X] Doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:19 AM
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In my experience, the average guys who have a lot of success in dating are guys with low standards. I have a guy friend who's hooked up with quite a few women, and he seems to have virtually no standards in women. To be clear: he's not looking down on these women, either, he just seems to really appreciate and desire lots of different women - even when they are 100+ pounds heavier than he is. I actually think that's a big part of it - guys with low standards in women's attractiveness who are als…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:18 AM
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What? They wouldn't do that, would they? https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tom_cruise_scully_box.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:07 AM
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I'm 6'6 and I can't even achieve that. Not with that attitude you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 06:00 AM
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I've seen women swipe on dating apps while sitting at the bar. There are times and places where you can see that kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:09 AM
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People don't really think about what the other gender wants and then act accordingly to get them I don't think it's particularly difficult to know what men want: attractive-ish, fun to be around, capable of holding a job, not crazy. Women are often vague or complicated in what they want. Advice like "just be yourself" and "a man's personality" are not that helpful. What does "personality" even mean? Does that mean funny? Dominant? Easy going? Hardworking and honest? And women downplay the import…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:01 AM
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I agree that it's not the worst post that I've seen on FDS. Although it is incorrect information. The podcast they use as a source said that this idea was pure conjecture. The FDS post acts like it's a fact. It's not. FDS does a lot of that - treating pure conjecture as if it's a fact if it fits their worldview. Here's more detail: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/p0hbj6/fds_in_mainstream_media_the_guardian_article/h89b438/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:28 AM
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I had listened to that podcast a few years ago that they use as a source. What they said on the podcast was that hypothesis was purely a wild guess. The FDS subreddit is acting like this is a fact. There's a transcript on the webpage if you want to check yourself: PB: So none in a way because we’re talking about penises which are soft tissue and they don’t fossilize so even if we went back into the fossil record it would be really hard to find evidence of what was happening, so that’s the part i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:26 AM
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I just thought there was nothing really wrong with the article itself. I mean he did say what was wrong about it - the article is complimentary towards the FDS subreddit and it contains a highly sanitized and overly positive version of what goes on in the subreddit. I'd imagine that if they were doing an article on pickup-artists and they talked to some guy who was a sleazy pickup artist coach, he could spin it as a very positive thing and use vague positive terminology about it. He would also k…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:10 AM
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trying to claim men here are salty. I'm betting that they're not using the word "men", but rather, "scrotes". That's classic FDS tactics. Poison the well and demean anyone who contradicts them. It's basically the equivalent of racists using racist slurs against people who argues against them - e.g. "What do I care if a bunch of [insert racist slur] has a problem with what I'm saying?" It's a way to dehumanize males, and once you've dehumanized them, you can avoid feeling any empathy or taking th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:39 AM
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I attached percentages to the chart listed here: https://i.imgur.com/GSudEHM.png Then, going from right-to-left on the chart, you add-up the percentage of men and the percentage of messages they get. So: on the "Female messaging and Male Attractiveness" chart on the right side, you add-up the numbers 0% + 1% + 5% = 6%. These three points represent the top 6% of men. Now, add-up the number of messages they received: 1% + 4% + 13% = 18%. So, the top 6% of men received 18% of all messages. As for c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:51 AM
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Ha. Thanks. No, I'm not a data analyst.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:27 AM
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Why would you suppose this happens in the first place? Any ideas? Not sure. I think that that women join dating sites as often as men, but drop-out of OLD at a faster rate than men. Some theories on why that might be: - Women can't really judge a man very well based on his pictures, that the vibe also comes into play and that can't be communicated well via pictures. - Women get too much attention and get overwhelmed. - Women get creepy guys messaging them and getting angry when they don't respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 05:25 AM
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Great Post. My only question is how do you explain that despite the number of women increasingly outnumbering men at university's the numbers of men leaving having never had sex is increasing? That is an interesting question. I'd be curious about whether virgin men are inside or outside college. I could see this going either way. Personally, I was a nerd who studied hard in college and wasn't having sex. I would expect that high-achieving college students are having less sex, and there is some e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:54 AM
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Not really. According to the graph you linked, the lowest percentile women and the highest percentile woman send the same amount of messages: just over 2.5. I mentioned in the post that this graph is quite confusing, and my guess is that the dots represent actual data-points, whereas the curve is the result of some poorly done curve-fitting algorithm. Basically, it looks like they used a computer program to draw a line through the dots (the actual data) but somehow ended up with lines that didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:36 AM
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The problem is that the whole OkCupid dataset is shit, as ratings of 3 and above would notify the other person. Christian Rudder was wondering if maybe men on OKCupid were average or uglier than average, so he tested it against other pictures from social media. He got the same results. If the ratings were similar for social media photographs (which don't notify people), then it suggests that this wasn't what was going on. https://i.imgur.com/WAMhazD.png The image includes the text: "Now, the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:24 AM
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But 2009 was a different world in that regard and it's very likely that the men on OkCupid were below average compared to the general population. In one of the articles I read about this, they repeated the ratings using random pictures from somewhere on the internet and they got similar results. I googled around to locate where I had read it. I think maybe it was from here -- this is an image from the Dataclysm book (written by Christian Rudder in 2015): https://i.imgur.com/WAMhazD.png The image…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:02 AM
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There's a lot of information here that's not actually correct. Part of the problem was that the OKCupid guy who wrote it up misinterpreted some of the charts, formatted the data poorly, and his interpretation of the data is biased in an overly pro-female way. I don't actually think the correct understanding of these charts supports the 80/20 rule either, but correct understanding of the data makes men look much better than your write-up does. Based on looking over these charts over the last week…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:04 PM
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I've seen the "tall, handsome" stuff on FDS. Here's one comment: https://i.imgur.com/C55XppF.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:56 AM
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Unmarried women without children are the happiest people in the population and live the longest. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-happy-children-spouse-partner-relationship-unmarried-a8931816.html I'd be very skeptical of those interpretations without taking a look at the actual data. I've caught journalists and scientists making up fake interpretations of data in the past. I remember one study that concluded that married men were happier than single men, but in the category…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:51 AM
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So producing your own children is what makes you a man? I'm not sure you can parse what he said that way. He could be saying that it's necessary but not sufficient for being considered a man. Does being sterile make you less of a man? To be honest, a lot of men do feel like less of a man if they can't have children. Kinda reminds me of that scene from Fight Club where that guy with testicular cancer starts crying because his wife left him because he was infertile and had a baby with another man.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:27 AM
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While I think it's dumb and disparaging to call men cucks for raising another man's child, I personally don't want to raise anyone else's children. If I'm going to put that level of effort into children, I want them to be my own. Also, the more children a woman already has, the fewer children she's going to have in the future, so that means fewer (or none) of my own biological children. As far as the "cuck" comparison, I don't think it quite holds because, while it's not ideal to raise some othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:13 AM
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I disagree with your reasoning around point #3. Specifically: No sane "healthy" man would turn down a really attractive woman over pixels. Yes, if a man was offered free, no effort sexual opportunities with attractive women, then yes, he would choose that over porn. But let's be real about the amount of time and effort it takes to pickup women. I've certainly had one-night stands, but it certainly isn't a sure thing on any night that I go out. I think for most men, it would probably take months …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:59 AM
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“Japanese men do only twenty to thirty minutes' worth of domestic work per day, while women spend three and a half hours in household chores. “ I don't know how relevant the Japanese situation is to Western men. It's well known that things are lopsided in Japan. According to https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=54757, the numbers for men and women in the United States are: Men: 166 minutes per day in unpaid work + 332 minutes per day in paid work = 498 minutes per day in total work (i.e. 8 …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:30 AM
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You're ridiculous. Women are socialized to be polite. We've even been smacked in public by our parent for being too honest.... followed by: You are not talking on reddit (by and large) to previous generations from the 1900s who were taught to be polite. Which is it? You were socialized to be polite or you weren't? My point still stands: women go out of their way to compliment people, and my example of Nicole Byers is a good example of this phenomena. Boys don't get that. You aren't "blunt," you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:41 AM
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Nah. In a variety of contexts, women will go out of their way to avoid hurting other people's feelings or making them feel good - even if it means lying. I've seen plenty of cases of women go out of their way to praise ugly women as "beautiful". One example I saw recently was an article (written by a woman) on Nicole Byer, and I thought "Really?" 'I know love is real': Why is stunning comic Nicole Byer still single? "The fact that Byer has been single her whole life is baffling; she is beautiful…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:22 PM
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Yup. There was a video posted years ago on PPD where a professor talked about how people were asked what traits were most attractive to them. Women tended to put physical attractiveness low on their list of priorities. But when they repeated the survey with actual photographs and descriptions of fictional people, physical attractiveness was revealed to be highly valued by both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:02 PM
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No. A lot of times it's aging and gaining weight. There have been times when I've met white girls who looked like models, but her mother looked like overweight trailer trash. Being young, thin, having clear skin can work wonders. Nothing to do with being interracial.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:57 PM
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I doubt that. I also guess we'll see what happens to all those adopted kids from celebrities. They got the benefits of wealth, but not the genes. My bet is that they'll be rather average looking, but without any obvious defects that affect poor people (like bad teeth).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:54 PM
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I think this post presumes that everything that women are doing is merely biological and inevitable. I think a very good case can be made for the idea that our current culture, modern media, social media, etc also play a role in the current state of affairs. It's also interesting because women will frequently bring up the idea that porn is negatively affecting relationships and men's standards of women. Here's the thing: you cannot simultaneously argue that women are somehow immune to cultural f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:34 AM
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You're a Muslim paying for prostitutes and talking about morality, huh? Yeah, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:40 AM
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Nah, has always and always will be about power and control. The argument that it's about power and control is frequently used by people to "win" an argument. I see the same crap with covid - i.e. "wearing a mask or getting a vaccine has nothing to do with public health - it's all about government control". ( Insert some stupid sheeple meme. ) In other words, it's a cheap way for people to manufacture conspiracy theories about the government and get people do act stupidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:32 AM
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There are some videos on this, if anyone is interested. One of them is "The Great Happiness Space: Tale of an Osaka Love Thief (2006)" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493420/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt, which is about men in Japan who work as escorts. Welcome to The Great Happiness Space: Rakkyo Café. The club's owner, Issei (22), has a staff of twenty boys all under his training to become the top escorts of Osaka's underground love scene. During their training, they learn how to dress, how to talk, how to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:26 AM
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This post reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/5oyrG3PcgLk?t=59
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:46 PM
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This narrative that women go for bad boys seems to be propagated by other envious guys who’d like to be a bad boy to women. Idk some weird fantasy Yeah, I don't know where they get that idea from. https://twitter.com/chimericide/status/1383093972520816644 https://youtu.be/shHTYg-rOAg?t=48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwZBh7dwQJA https://youtu.be/Ga2r8bpzo5k?t=95 https://youtu.be/s6b33PTbGxk?t=102 https://youtu.be/N1Cg75IC-B8?t=59
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 05:42 PM
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Yup. https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/ni4kto/holy\_shit/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 09:06 PM
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While some women do a decent job of picking men, I'm also surprised by the number of women who get into relationships with men who are *very obviously* trashy bad boys. I can list plenty of stories of women who were like "omg, I can't believe 'that guy' or 'my boyfriend' did that" when I thought, "You mean you didn't see that coming?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:43 PM
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I wonder what the causes of that are. I know feminists will make some claim that women are tired of men's bullshit or whatever. But, it also seems like young women have significant dating privileges over everyone else. They are the most attractive, and older men and younger men are competing for them. Older women are less sought-after, so they're also experiencing a significant decline in the privilege that they experienced when they were younger. On some level, I would think that older women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 08:37 PM
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Interesting article. Reminds me of reading the summary of the "Date-onomics" book - which claimed that college-educated men had the upper hand in the dating world because there weren't enough college-educated men to go around. I generally disagree with the book because I think the real world is more complicated, and, as a college educated man, I never saw any of this supposed "abundance" that I was supposed to be seeing. But then, I'm a software developer, and engineers - despite being high-earn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:38 AM
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While single, I've had plenty of female friends I had no desire or intention to date or sleep with. Although I think that would be really difficult if she was really physically and emotionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:30 AM
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Someone with a Y-Chromosome said it, so don't pretend you can deny it now. The jig is up! From what I hear, someone with a Y-Chromosome also wrote a book called "Mein Kampf" and I'm pretty sure that logically means all men agree with it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:27 AM
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We’ve been pretty much sexualized at a young age, and constantly beat into our heads that men want sex and will do almost anything for it. That's true in the "treat all guns as loaded" kind of way. It obviously isn't really true, but it should be treated as true for the sake of protecting yourself, especially when someone lacks a nuanced understanding of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:22 AM
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The point being that what "thro_away_2021" said was correct ("Men stop being friends Because being friends with someone you’re attracted too and want more of a romantic relationship from, and then watching them go and date other people is painful."). And I definitely agree with him because I've experienced the same thing - I stopped being friends with a girl I had known for years because (after a short fling) she didn't want to date me, and it was too painful to stick around. But that also means…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:19 AM
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Single fathers took responsibility for a child that the father's actions created. I'm fine with that framing as long as you use the same criticism at single mothers in countries where there is no right to abortion: "Single mothers took responsibility for a child that her actions created." My guess is that you don't, though. I'm pro-choice, but it bothers me that people who are pro-choice throw pro-life arguments at men and act like it isn't a double-standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:46 AM
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He had a choice in having unprotected sex. That it true. But, it's also just as true of any single mother in any country which has zero abortion rights. Most people in the West would feel pretty bad for the fact that women have no ability to have an abortion if she accidentally got pregnant. I'm sure that people in foreign countries with no right to abortion probably also play the "she had a choice in having unprotected sex" card on women, too. Which is pretty much analogous to the situation tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:43 AM
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kick the shit out of anyone that called them a 'cuck'. But you go ahead and feel free. I'll record it...oughta be fun. That is utterly irrelevant - and it's nothing more than a "might makes right" argument. While I disagree that a man marrying a single mother makes him a "cuck", I also think it's a horrible rebuttal to play the "they'll kick the shit out of you if you said it -- therefore, the guy is somehow "right"". I mean, even if the "cuck" label was true, I'm sure you can think of plenty of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:38 AM
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Where in the US did you visit? Because it sounds like a stereotypical description of, say, Los Angeles. I have a hard time believing that this accurately describes all regions of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:25 AM
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It's not as if Americans never engage in lecturing others about how things should be. I bet Americans don't get criticized, either. /s I mean - if everyone gets treated "equally" it means American criticizing other cultures get criticized, and foreigners criticizing any other culture get criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 06:21 AM
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I was walking behind a homeless woman a few months ago. She was talking on the phone to a friend. At one point, she said that sometimes when she's in a store the clerk don't immediately realize she's a woman and will yell at her and try to kick her out, but when they realize she's a woman, they're kinder to her. She could literally see the switch in their behavior towards her when they realized she was a woman. It was interesting to hear how homeless women are treated better than homeless men. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:28 AM
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I suppose it depends on the nature of her unattractiveness. If she's just really overweight, well, people can lose weight. If she's deformed - well, probably not much she can do unless it's correctable through surgery (i.e. money). Also, it's odd how people think that money grows on trees and men can just make a little bit of effort to grab it. Most guys don't have the intellect to become rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:21 AM
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some broke unattractive men who got a lot of admiration and respect for their intellect or talent.. I think the vast majority of broke men are have neither the intellect nor talent to give them respect. The rest of the comment about them being "Genuine, intellectual, artistic, philosophers" doesn't describe 99.9% of broke men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:18 AM
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You are better off having girls if you are a low status family and boys if high status. That's interesting because I've seen information that this was how people felt in the middle-ages, too. Boys inherited the social status of their family (which is good if your family is high-status, but bad if your family is low status), but women inherited the social status of her husband, so a poor woman had the opportunity to marry-up. As such you are better off being a bleck woman than a bleck man. I feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 08:08 AM
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What? Or do you mean that men get more government money because there are more men who are homeless, alcoholic, drug-addicted, in halfway houses, or have mental health problems, and therefore anything that helps those populations of people naturally helps men more than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 07:50 AM
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And yet men and women are instinctually driven to seek out people with a different genetic make up than themselves in order to get the best and most disease resistant set of dna. Nah. People generally stick with their own kind, and populations are plenty large that people don't need to go looking for people who look distinctly different from themselves. Dating people who are dramatically different than you often leads to divorce, and being a single mother is not a good situation. Only copulating…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:53 AM
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Yup. If it was Antifa who stormed the US Capital, FOX News would still be shouting about it louder than they yelled about Benghazi. The right-wing spent more time and effort complaining about 4 people dying there than they cared about 600,000 Americans dying of covid. Heck, just the other day I saw a bumper sticker saying "never forget Benghazi". Kind of like this one - which somehow compares Benghazi to 9/11. (WTF?) "Never Forget Benghazi The Other 911" https://decaljunky.com/never-forget-bengh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:26 AM
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China has already started its demographic decline. Data showed a fertility rate of 1.3 children per woman for 2020 alone, on par with ageing societies like Japan and Italy. The shrill alarm for China's policymakers is that the world's second-biggest economy may already be in irreversible population decline without having first accumulated the household wealth of G7 nations. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-2020-census-shows-slowest-population-growth-since-1-child-policy-2021-05-11/ Thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 07:04 AM
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https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1823016659
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:49 AM
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As someone who has a religious family, it's often just labeled as "evil" - which allows them to ignore any causes and just act like it's a problem with no "real cause" other than people being bad and not loving Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:48 AM
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Nope. First, the discussion was about these lone-wolf incel killers, not serial killers in general. Many actually are. That's why they have fanclubs and women trying to marry them in prison. No. They got fanclubs AFTER they committed crimes. It wasn't because they were charming and charismatic. It's because they were famous and dangerous. And the women who fetishize them are often psychologically damaged. I remember one serial killer talking about some woman who wanted to marry him, and he said …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 06:38 AM
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A lot of those "algorithms" have such a stripped-down number of assumptions that they're often completely invalid. It's basically like a physics student who's told to calculate the trajectory of a skydiver - but assume the skydiver is in the shape of a sphere and neglect air resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:48 AM
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I think you're not looking at the right issue, since you're framing it as "men are angry that they can't all get the 10/10 hot girl". The thing that guys get mad about on the PPD isn't that they don't all get the hottest girls. It's the inequality that exists between men and women who are basically at the same "level". Which is why guys mention the OKCupid study about women finding 80% of men below average, while men think that only 50% of women are below average. Or if you make a fake Tinder pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:34 AM
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But to see a lot of men/boys that expect some kind of fairness in dating was mind blowing. I have to wonder how much of this is also influenced by the focus on "fairness" in the rest of people's lives - specifically the big push for racial-equality and feminism ("it's not fair that ... most CEOs are men, most politicians are men, the wage gap, sexual double-standards for men and women, etc") which has a lot of people agreeing and advocating for it. It's a weird dichotomy that in one part of our …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:28 AM
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I guess I don't think there's anything wrong with disliking the fact that people treat you badly even if you'd do the same thing in their shoes. Say you were a factory worker who hates the way your boss overworks you, gives you no healthcare, and makes you work in dangerous conditions. But let's say you'd act the same way towards workers if you were a rich factory owner - because doing all those things means more money for you. I still think the factory worker can still be angry at his boss. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:10 AM
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So is extreme success. You don’t push for more than average if you don’t care about status. Unless you simply enjoy what you do. I work with plenty of tech guys who are very good at their jobs because they're nerds who love what they do. It isn't about the status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:08 AM
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Most of my male friends and aquaintances spend big bucks on expensive toys: boats, trucks, motorcycles, bikes, hunting trips, adventure trips. And I have zero male friends who spend money on that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:05 AM
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My husband was debating with me yesterday saying men are more status obsessed than women are. Men like competing more according to him. Maybe if you're talking about type-A rich guys like in "American Psycho". In general, I don't believe that's true at all. Women are much more competitive and status-obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:04 AM
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If women put a lot of effort into appearance, that doesn’t mean that they think looks are more important to women, it means they think looks are more important to men. Nah. A lot of that is irrelevant to men. Heck, women spend lots of money on Coach purses - or worse, Birkin bags. Men give zero shits about that. Women do it to compete with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:01 AM
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I know WAYYYY more women who use social media to show-off pictures of themselves than men who use social media for that purpose. Heck, sometimes when I'm on dating apps and the woman has linked her instagram, I'm surprised by how many women have 90% of their instagram photos as pictures of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:57 AM
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Sorry, you're wrong. He's not moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:50 AM
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but they are still MEN. That’s the point. For the purposes of this discussion, gay men are not relevant. Gay men pickup a lot of behavior from women - in fact, the most common "tells" that a man is gay is that he mimics women in a variety of different ways. I don't think I need to list them all out, since we basically all know what they are. That's not to say that gay men are entirely non-male in their behaviors, of course. Gay men still retain the high sex drive of males in general, which is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:48 AM
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A guy will spend tons of his hard earned money on the latest thing when it concerns a hobby he is interested in, not to impress other women, but to impress the other guys that share in that hobby. What are you talking about? With the exception of maybe car guys and maybe gun guys, I don't even think this is very common among men. I can't think of a single hobby I have that I do to impress other guys, and I certainly don't buy the latest thing - even though I could easily afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 06:39 AM
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FDS is doing the same for women. It helps them repair their broken pickers, rather than desperately taking the first thing that comes along If that's all FDS was, it wouldn't really be a problem. I think you're skipping past the more negative aspects of the sub. And it's not just random commenters who are demeaning towards men. It's the admin and mods of the channel that are nasty and demeaning. Several of them show up at PPD and talk shit or use spurious logic to argue that men are trash. Some …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:02 PM
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What's interesting is that she (the woman in the instagram) also posted this: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPS67HVDfwA/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:41 AM
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What? When I look around in my city, I see very few women with Asian men. It does happen, but not that common. What I do see? When white women date outside their own race, it's mostly with black men. There's a decent-sized minority of white women who fetishize black men, and I've seen some white chicks throw themselves at black men in bars and clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:21 AM
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Your comment reminds me of the FDS. So --- I discovered that the FDS started a podcast. Yes, Lillth is a founding member of the podcast. I listened to a bit of it. It's as you would expect - a lot of assuming the worst about men, talking about how men don't see women as human-beings, just sex objects, etc. There was one bit where they talked about how HOT it makes them to see men fighting. They tried to justify it with some evolutionary psych about how (throughout evolutionary history) females g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 06:06 AM
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I don't believe that's really true for men. The comment feels very "men do it too" as a way of justifying/equalizing this bad behavior that some women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:57 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if women like to think that they can control a powerful dangerous man, and that means that she'll be safe from him and the entire world (because he can protect her from everything). But it's a dumb way of thinking, especially when a woman's partner is more likely to harm or killer her than all the random men in the world combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 05:55 AM
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Seems like a silly framing of the issue. Men work more hours of paid work than women. That money then is used to support the family and the children. You can't just ignore the fact that men do most of the paid work and then women control the majority of the finances. Feminists frame the issue as "women do more unpaid work than men. So unfair" while blithely ignoring the fact that men do more paid work than women, and then that money becomes the communal-property of the family - i.e. women spend …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 08:32 PM
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You could move to "Menver": https://www.states101.com/gender-ratios/colorado/denver-county
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:46 AM
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The image you linked to was the ratio of men to women in the 20-24 age range specifically (i.e. college age). The image is connected to a larger article which I read via google translate. They say that women migrate to cities for college, but most of them leave once their education is complete. (Your image is not the ratio of men to women at all ages, it's just college-age men and women.) From google translate: The reasons given for the migration of young women from rural regions to urban areas …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:38 AM
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Yup. Here's a gif to illustrate: https://i.imgur.com/iCEAJ7W.gifv
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:00 PM
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There are also much more women in big cities than men. No, there isn't. Here's the ratio of single men to single women in American cities: https://i.imgur.com/iCEAJ7W.gifv In the 20-something and 30-something age-range, there's too many men and not enough women. In the 50+ age-range, there's more single women. This is driven by the fact that men tend to marry younger women, and that is more true among second and third marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:57 PM
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There's two reasons to be jealous, and neither of them apply in the mind of a polygamous person. How ridiculous. Guess what the second biggest chapter in "The Ethical Slut" (the "Bible" of polyamory) is written about? Jealousy. The author talks about the struggles of it. And I've seen long-term polyamory people drop out of polyamory lifestyles because of the jealousy issue. I laughed when Aubrey Marcus dropped out of the poly lifestyle after seven years of preaching it - and then admitting that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 05:04 AM
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end legal marriage and allow people to create legal contracts with anyone they want. Yeah, I can already imagine the clusterfuck that would be. When everyone/everyone can make a marriage contract, it'll become worst than "terms of service" that everyone signs because they're like 200 pages long and it would literally take everyone too much time to read-through all of the terms-of-service that the average person "consents" to. "It would take the average user 40 minutes a day to read all of - and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 04:55 AM
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It's simplistic to say that the attractiveness gap is just about putting effort into one's appearance. I don't believe women are as attracted to a top-tier physically-attractive man (e.g. male models) as men are attracted to top-tier physically-attractive women. This also is confirmed by Tinder experiments where photos of a male model and a female model were used in profiles. The female model still majorly outperformed the male model. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8rzo4Ik4M The reality is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:49 AM
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Kind of like millenials "deciding" to move back home with their parents? My point being: just because you frame something as the best choice given the available options doesn't mean it's a good situation. If the problem is "people being too picky about what they think they deserve", then, yeah, they can choose to be single and that's the best available option assuming they don't want to look more deeply at their own unrealistic expectations. But, maybe a better option, but which would require so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 07:05 AM
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All of those guys look like they aren't capable of getting girlfriends. My guess is that they figure they'll take a four-way split with a bunch of other guys rather than get nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 06:43 AM
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I assume it's somewhat fulfilling - but probably only a fraction of what a real relationship would be. I think it'd be incorrect to assume it's 0% fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:15 AM
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Their suicide rates aren't as high anymore. Suicide rates used to be around 23 per 100,000 people, but its dropped to around 15 per 100,000 people. Meanwhile, the US suicide rate has been climbing - from about 11 per 100,000 to 14 per 100,000. Right now, the US and Japan have almost the same suicide rate. https://www.nippon.com/en/ncommon/contents/japan-data/181562/181562.png But 10 or 20 years ago, they did have a significantly higher suicide rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:11 AM
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I think women are well aware, that's why they don't struggle with dating. But your point applies to men. Men are bad at awareness and that's why there's an epidemic of men who say they can't find a girl. I've seen plenty of women with unrealistic expectations. I should make a compilation of all the women on KevinSamuel's YouTube who show up and do a videochat about what they're looking for and what they see themselves as. There's a lot of overweight women with one or more kids and mediocre jobs …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 06:40 AM
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I'm an American man. I NEVER do "Netflix and Chill". ALL of my first dates are at bars or coffeeshops or someplace public. No, I don't put that much work into a first date because, especially if I met her online, I don't even know if I like her yet. And plenty of times, women from dating apps show up looking 30+ pounds heavier or significantly worse than their dating photos show. I've also met a few women who seemed a little crazy. That's why I wouldn't put much effort into a first date. If thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:38 PM
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> I gain nothing from feeling better about that? Not necessarily saying this is you, but there are quite a few women on this subreddit who have obvious animosity towards men, and enjoy putting men down or acting like they destroyed an argument that a man made. Honestly, it's the main reason I rarely visit PPD. Too many women (and men, too, for that matter) looking for a chance to put-down the opposite gender, and feeling happy if they can do that. Kind of like the thrill that a die-hard member o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:26 AM
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Nope. If you read my response, you'd see why that counter-argument misses the mark. I think what's going on here is that it makes women feel better to act like men's fertility drops off at the same rate that women's does.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:51 AM
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What I said was that men's fertility drops off less dramatically than women's fertility. What this effectively means is that it men's fertility largely becomes a non-issue. Look at the chart I provided in my comment: Women's fertility peaks in her early 20s. By age 40, it's about 1/6th what it was at 25. And it's effectively zero by 45. Men's fertility does not drop off like that. There are men who father children at 70 years old. So, counter-arguments about men's fertility dropping off are miss…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:47 AM
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I don't even think of attraction to younger women as shallow. I think men were evolutionarily tuned to be attracted to younger women - because of evolutionary pressures. More specifically, men are tuned to be most attracted to women who are most fertile. It's obvious why this would be the case: if you have a group of men who are attracted to 20-something women and a group of men who are attracted to post-menopausal women, the men attracted to 20-something women will succeed in passing on their g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:07 AM
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And that is not really an authentic “friendship”. Never was or will be. You don't know that. You're just making a conjecture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:39 AM
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cemeteries centered?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:38 AM
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I don't know about that. Last I looked at that subreddit, there was a post about using men for their money - i.e. get men to spend money on you (gifts, dinners, etc) and never offer to pay for anything, essentially make men treat you like you're their sugar-baby - and the author said that if women felt guilty about treating men like that, she should consider it payback for all the centuries of oppression men have done to women. I think it's BS to hold modern men responsible for people who lived …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 03:27 AM
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I feel the same way. I'd say I'm in the top 20%, too. But the amount of ghosting, lack of effort, women showing up who don't look like their pictures, and general BS is too high. The other week I scheduled a coffee date with this woman. After setting up the time and location, she messaged, "That sounds great!" I got stood-up, and never heard from her again. I think part of the issue is simply that there's too many men and not enough women on dating apps, so women can get away with all of the bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 03:20 AM
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The word "vindicta" is a shortened version of the word "vindictive" - as in "I'm going to get back at all those men for the shitty things they've done to me, I'm going to use my beauty as a weapon" (they said that in one of their old posts). It tells you a lot about their mindset. It's not all self-improvement on that sub. For example, one of the recent posts is "I don't give a fuck about men and dating but I sure do know that if they find me attractive my life will go more smoothly".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 04:54 AM
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I always disliked the "All it takes is one yes" claim. Women tend to gravitate towards men who are liked by other women, and if you've only got one "yes", she's probably not giving you a strong "yes". Also, it puts guys in a very scarce mindset. If you only have one "yes", then a guy can get clingy and worried about losing her. This can cause him to put up with a lot of shit that he shouldn't put up with in a relationship. It can shift the balance of power to her. And if it's not working out, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 04:33 AM
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You are polemicists for the Corporations. apologists?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:05 AM
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If the goal is to reduce prostitution, I think this is a valid position. At the same time, I think drug dealers should be villainized more than drug users. I'm perfectly fine with having "drug rehab" as the response to drug use. Drug dealers can go to jail or prison, though. So, that's an example of different reactions to the dealer vs user, which suggests that we *could* have different reactions to the prostitute vs john. In general, society (particularly left-leaning people) is biased towards …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 08:50 PM
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Funny, for some reason, reading your comment reminded me of that line from "One Punch Man". Basically, he's a superhero who can defeat any enemy with one punch. Saitama is the main protagonist of the series and the titular One-Punch Man and the most powerful being to exist in the series.... Although he tells everyone he got his incredible power through mere physical training, no one believes him at all. According to Saitama, after a year and a half of 100 daily push-ups, sit-ups, and squats, plu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:24 AM
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The solution? I've been in monk-mode before. Hardcore-level monk-mode. I got off all social media, stopped watching TV or any kind of shows/videos, boxed up my video games and put them in the closet, and I sat alone at home with myself That doesn't really solve the issue, though, if the real problem is that *other people* expect you to be constantly entertaining them because their dopamine is messed up. Also, for what it's worth, I think entertainment in general has skewed everyone's opinions of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:17 AM
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And this is bad how? If you are unhappy why wouldt you want a partner your more compatible with? Win win the incompatible ppl get another shot at love & ending up with a better partner. This can be bad in lots of different ways. The very fact that people think "The grass is greener on the other side" means people might leave marriages for something they believe is better, and then end up worse-off can be a problem for everybody involved. It just depends an awful lot on people making correct choi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 08:58 PM
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It seems to me that he's saying "then join a cult". Which is a poor rebuttal. Yeah, he might get the good aspects of a strong marriage, but he has to also take the negative aspects of living in a cult. He's obviously intending for people to be so afraid of living in a cult that he gives up on the former goal. It's like someone saying "I wish I was rich". And someone responding "prostitutes make lots of money, so if you want to be rich, you need to become a prostitute". Response: "Yeah, I don't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 08:53 PM
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There's also a certain psychology involved in situations where you can't change your mind. I remember one experiment in the "Paradox of Choice" book, where people were given the option to pick a piece of art to take home with them. There were two conditions: in condition 1, people could not return the artwork for a different one, and condition 2, people could return the artwork for a different one. Several days later, they asked people how happy they were with their choice. People who could not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 08:47 PM
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We're talking about something that happened 500 years ago among royalty, where having male heirs to takeover the kingdom was a thing. Poor families in medieval times preferred daughters because daughters could actually climb the social hierarchy, whereas sons were stuck permanently in their social-class, which is awful if you're at the bottom of the social hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:30 PM
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patriarchy Not sure why people act like patriarchy is the only social dynamic in the world. Women have a lot of power, and would say that since women are generally seen as more desirable to men than men are to women, that relationship dynamics are under stronger control of women rather than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:27 PM
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"Things are dumb if (and only if) it results in a shooter." Okay. I think flat-earthers are idiotic. But I must be mistaken because I've never heard of a flat-earther shooter. They must be brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 08:11 AM
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Do you mean that men shouldn't be mad when women - somewhere out in the world, that they don't know - cheat? Or that men can't personally be mad when their significant other cheats? Because those are two very different situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 08:05 AM
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Exhibit A that OGJammies has no idea how men actually think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:51 AM
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I'm not calling men hypocrites, i'm saying they sleep with women for validation from their boys. Nonsense. I don't tell my friends who I sleep with. And I certainly don't sleep with women to get validation from my friends. None of my friends know about most of the women I've slept with. It isn't about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:45 AM
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/s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:40 AM
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Sure you do. I don't know a single guy who uploads many photos of himself. But, I know plenty of women (that I'm personally friends with) who's instagrams are filled with selfies of themselves. It's a god-damned epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 07:36 AM
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Does anyone on this sub who posts CMV actually change their view? Because it seems obvious to me that OP is wrong, and the top-voted comment does a reasonably good job taking down the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:21 AM
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I think most women disagree that it is easier for women to date is because men try to claim that because dating is easier, EVERYTHING in their lives is easier. That seems like a weird way of arguing. Rather than admit something is true, they simply deny everything rather than take the fight to where it belongs - i.e. saying that dating is just one aspect of life. Honestly, it makes me feel like I'm arguing with a Trump supporter who can't admit that anything Trump did was wrong or stupid. There'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:06 AM
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it also means that they're going to be Chad's fourth wife? It's worse than that - it means that he cheats. And, we can justify on "evolutionary" grounds that males who can cheat should cheat. If he's "high value" enough to attract those other women, then his genes should be spread, right? He's doing the species a favor by cheating and having bastard children because it means his genes "should" be more common in the gene pool. I wonder if OP thinks women should accept this, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:43 AM
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Yes. This is very common. I'm a white guy, and I see a similar pattern, too. I also pay, so I can see who likes me (it saves a lot of time). I get lots of likes from older women with kids, overweight, etc. There was one woman that liked me recently that had 4 kids. No thanks. In the rare case that an attractive woman likes me she either doesn't respond when I message her, or ghosts me for no apparent reason. But the dating apps are stacked against men - there's too many men and not enough women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:35 AM
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Thats just attempts at shaming men. I think that was his point. He probably should've wrapped it in quotes to make it more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:41 PM
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We did not manage to rewrite the rulebook of patriarchal sexuality, men still dominate the playing field and we have to play along. It's well known that women's SMV is higher than men's. This means that a "5" woman can go and sleep with a "7" man. In that situation, it isn't so much about "patriarchy" - it's that the more attractive partner has more power and less interest in their less attractive partner. It's not "patriarchy", it's just the age-old "the more attractive person has more power". …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:35 PM
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Except it's not true. Women get lighter sentences than men, and are more likely to avoid incarceration entirely (by getting probation), even when they're convicted for the same crime. For example, men who kill their wives and are convicted get an average sentence of 16 years. Women who kill their husbands and are convicted get an average sentence of 6 years. This kind of gap was seen in a variety of crimes. (Edit: a source - https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_dispa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 07:33 AM
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And literally just 3 days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:42 AM
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I'm assuming "political agenda" means "gender politics".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:32 AM
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It's not far off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:27 AM
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Where did you come up with the ideas that he was doing those things? Don't ya know? Arguing is much easier when you invent strawmans.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:26 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Johnson#/media/File:Dakota_Johnson_Venice_2018_(cropped).jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:21 AM
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I remember a post on PPD a while back about some overweight dude in the netherlands who was picked by lesbians to be a sperm-donor. I believe that story was supposed to prove that women weren't hypergamous and that everyday average guys can do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 02:45 AM
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Statistically black women marry later but by 40 have similar marriage rates as white women. What's that based on? Everything I've seen shows that black women marry at lower rates than every other race. According to this chart (which is admittedly dated), shows that about 60% of black women manage to be married at least once by the age of 38. In contrast, about 60% of white women are married by the age of 25. Black women never catch-up to the marriage rates of other races. "by age 40 ... there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:52 AM
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I’ve never been in a relationship where the other person was so naturally thoughtful and considerate. Usually that was on me to remember all the little things that would make them smile, so it’s nice to experience someone who does it every day. I can't help but think that a guy acting this way would immediately be considered "too nice" and would be a turn-off for most women. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8vMTur_0ac
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:41 PM
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While I think the issue of domestic violence isn't really that relevant to the topic, I will point out that it has not been debunked. About 17-45% of lesbians report having been the victim of a least one act of physical violence perpetrated by a lesbian partner ... Violence appears to be about as common among lesbian couples as among heterosexual couples https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:36 PM
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They do have high divorce rates. And the original "incel" was a lesbian woman. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:34 PM
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he's "too nice" Yeah. On top of this, there's a huge focus on all the ways that women get hurt by men (rape/sexual assault, homicide) so one would think that being "safe" would be an advantage. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:31 AM
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Only to women under a certain age. After that, women just see you as a loser with no money who's failing to "make it".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:35 AM
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It's hard to believe this is a thing, but it is: 12 Best Free Prison Dating Site Options
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:24 AM
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I'm not sure whether to think it's feminist propaganda or whether the documentaries/articles have some truth to them. Why not both -- i.e. There's a crisis of masculinity, and feminists are taking advantage of the situation to push feminist propaganda? I don't believe feminists can solve the problem or recommend good solutions. In some sense, they make it worse by trying to turn boys into girls. Their suggestions are also tainted with self-serving advice -- i.e. advice that will help guys help w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:21 AM
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You're a teacher (actually student teacher). Not exactly high status or high earning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:18 AM
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It's probably biology: men who were attracted to pre-menopausal women did the best job of spreading their genes. So, it makes sense that men would find women between the ages of 15-40 the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:15 AM
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If you google the bottom article, you can tell that they changed the title, probably because people pointed this out. New title: "One perk of older age? Fewer catcalls" Some sites referencing the old title: https://twitter.com/guardian/status/623130666377588736?lang=en https://www.huffpost.com/entry/men-rarely-catcall-me-any-more-i-hate-that-our-culture-makes-me-miss-it_n_55ad4bffe4b0d2ded39fac74 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Men+rarely+catcall+me+any+more.+I+hate+that+our+culture%22
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:54 AM
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The post seems like a silly framing of the issue. All she's done is push the problem back to an earlier stage. Imagine the reverse: imagine if guys walked around refusing to date anyone but a supermodel. All the guys are frustrated because they can't get a supermodel, and all the women are frustrated because all the men won't accept anything but a supermodel. Women complain about this, and guys just say "You want to be settled for???" as if that's a good argument. No, the problem starts much ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:05 PM
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I think the issue is that she thinks that marriage will make her feel loved. But it someone who thinks that way likely has other issues that go back to childhood and she probably needs therapy. It's like people who think they'll be happy if they have money. Then they get money, and they aren't happy, so they feel even more hollow. I would fully expect that a woman who needs to get married to feel loved will end up with a "high" from the wedding that will fade over time, and then she'll take it o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:33 AM
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Here's the video. I skipped to 6:46 in the video, where they talk to some OnlyFans subscribers. They also talk to the guys beginning at 13:20. https://youtu.be/djMojvschs0?t=406
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:41 AM
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WTF is going on with Norway versus Sweden? Looks very suspect. Sweden has 62% success rate for women and 60% success rate for men. Meanwhile, Norway has 71% success rate for women and only a 27% success rate for men? This seems a little hard to believe since they're nearly identical countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:53 AM
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I'd never pay for OnlyFans, but I saw some interviews with guys who did. Basically, the guys were lonely introverts without many friends and they got a pseudo girlfriend experience out of it - at least in terms of the girls messaging them back. They said that once they got out and started meeting more people in real life, they dropped their OnlyFans payments. (I think it was a YouTube video or something. If I find it, I'll post it.) In some ways, it felt like it was their social problems that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 10:13 PM
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My feeling is that women in general haven't openly admitted to hypergamy in general as they are (no without justification) afraid that any admission will be used against them to justify things well beyond what any admission of hypergamy would justify. Simpler explanation: people have a knee-jerk reaction to deny any negative trait people assign to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:49 PM
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In my opinion, when people say "hypergamy" they mean something similar to what we mean when we say "greedy". You could argue that everyone wants more money, and therefore, "everyone is greedy". I don't use the word that way. "Greedy" to me means someone who is excessively chasing money. Even if we accept that everyone wants more money, the fact of the matter is that only a greedy person would swindle someone out of their life-savings. That's what greed is - an excessive chasing of money. So, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:45 AM
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That's a good point. I cringe when I think about the convict who knocked-up four female prison guards. I also belong to a facebook singles group in my city. One guy posted on there - shirtless, tattoos, and a motorcycle. I've never seen so many women openly saying they were hot for him. I thought he was decent-looking, but obviously those tats and a motorcycle drove them crazy. It was pretty stupid. He's got stereotypical masculine traits and looks like he'd abandon a woman after knocking them u…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:37 AM
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If men want the scales to tilt in their favor, they need to stop simping and being so thirsty and desperate for a crumb of pussy. It's shameful, and hurts us all. I hate when people frame it this way, because it acts like men are a giant hivemind. I'm one single man. I have no more control over the actions of other men than women do. So when you say "If men want the scales to tilt in their favor" you're asking 4 billion people to come to some sort of consensus on something. I'm fine with shaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:25 AM
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I like how "debate" on PPD revolves around using the extreme opposite as a "counter argument". Argument: "Why do women only go for tall men?" Rebuttal: "Oh, you think women should go for 3 foot-tall dwarfs who obviously have genetic problems, huh?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:26 PM
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And yet, women care about the number of likes they get on instagram from people they will never meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:22 PM
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I should probably also add that there's a certain amount of cheating going on, too. And sugar babies. I have a couple younger female friends who have dabbled in being a sugar baby. One of them recently tried (for a weekend) being a sugar baby for a married guy who has 4 kids. She didn't particularly like it, and said it felt kind of like prostitution. She also told me that a year ago she interviewed for a job, and the guy looked familiar but didn't think too much about it at first. Then she real…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 02:40 AM
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Yeah, the dating apps aren't putting out their numbers or they lie about them. I think the only way these journalists could come up with numbers is to run experiments - but even that produces questionable numbers since it's just a snapshot of their local area. I once looked on OKCupid in my area. Using the same search parameters and then counting up the number of male and female profiles, I found a ratio of 205 male profiles : 100 female profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 02:35 AM
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It is exactly the opposite on sugar babe sites. As soon as you start flashing dollars, it is women who chase men. That is why the average man needs to bring cash to the table. Otherwise, men do not have enough value to women. You mean hire prostitutes - while believing she wants you, and not your money? This sound suspiciously like "I think this stripper wants me".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:36 AM
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No way tinder is 43% female. Yeah, I've looked up statistics on dating apps, and they're all over the place with estimates. Even articles from the same year give massively different estimates of gender ratios on the same app. Sometimes I think they just throw a dart at a dartboard to come up with their supposed numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:34 AM
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What? I've never met anyone or heard of anyone meeting via instagram, facebook, or twitter. The only time I've every heard of that happening is with very high-profile people - like professional athletes and models.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:31 AM
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Nah. You're overstating your conclusion: "When it comes to online dating, women may be hypergamous in thought, but men have proven to be hypergamous in deed." That simply isn't true when you break down the numbers correctly. And by "correctly" I mean, you need to break it down by percentile - e.g. how many messages does the top 10% of women and the top 10% of men get? You're doing the comparison wrong if you're comparing "how many messages does the top 1% of men get and let's compare that to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:22 AM
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It's not 50:50 in the real world. The fact of the matter is that, in the 20-40 age-range, there are more single men than single women. It's not just the dating apps, although it's even more skewed on dating apps. Here's a gif showing this: https://i.imgur.com/iCEAJ7W.gif In this gif, where you see the "100" per 1000 singles, that means that there's 550 single men : 450 single women, which is 122 single men : 100 single women. In the under 40 age-group, notice the excess number of men - all compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:03 AM
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You burnt your chance in college. Most of the people have a significant other by the end of their college. You are surrounded by abundance of women and chances are a few will look after you. If you stayed in your room 24/7 and didn’t expose yourself to others during your college days, well you burnt your chance, and you are to blame for it. That's not the only way guys end up single after college. By the way, why is it whenever anybody makes an argument, they frame it in the most extreme terms? …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:04 AM
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Welcome to PPD... where any advantage a man has... must be spin-doctored into an insult against men. Welcome to the gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 06:46 AM
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Meh. Tinder is what you make it, and since there are more men than women on Tinder, women have most of the power, so they can make it be whatever they want -- which is usually dating. I know people who have gotten into long-term relationships from Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:48 AM
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I actually disagree with you here. Imo the higher homelessness rate for men is due to the fact that men have a more spread IQ distribution (STDV around 15 mean 100) and women have a more consolidated distribution (stdv around 10 mean 100). That could be a factor. Although it's possible that it's just one of the factors that explains homelessness. Another factor is likely substance abuse. Substance abuse also leads to homelessness, and substance abuse is also more common in men than women. ( Here…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:27 AM
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And a large portion of those men are either shit And so are many women on those platforms - for a large variety of reasons: unattractive, boring, ghetto, etc. On more than one occasion, I've seen women on dating sites who had 4 or more children. The idea of getting into a LTR with a woman who has 4+ kids is never something I'll ever do. looking for hookups not dating And if that describes half of the men on the platform, then the 9 men : 1 woman ratio can be adjusted to 4.5 men : 1 woman. Still …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:32 AM
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I mean - if you get married, you can get a good chunk of cash. I really don't imagine women would walk away with nothing. I've heard some pretty crazy stories about women getting awarded good monthly payments by the courts because they "became accustomed to the lifestyle" (which I think is a bullshit rationalization for payouts). Example: Jesse Williams was ordered to pay more than $50,000 a month in child support, as well as $50,695 a month in spousal support. $1.2 million a year in child suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:59 PM
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If you frame it as "handsome man with an unattractive woman", you're trying to get a particular answer. If you said "couples where the guy is more attractive", then that makes it easier to dispute your argument. I'd say most couples are looks-matched, though. I certainly see a decent number of couples where the guy is more attractive. There's definitely been times when I'd seen couples than thought the guy should be able to do a lot better, or maybe he has the personality of a cardboard box, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:36 PM
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Looks to me like your anecdote means nothing. I don't even know what you're responding to. I'm literally saying what the chart is showing. Is the chart accurate except when it shows that 20-something women cheat (slightly) more than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 02:16 AM
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The average marriage age gap I believe is the man being 3 years older which helps demonstrate my point. The average marriage gap for first marriages is (I think) about 2 years. But, that's only for first marriages. If a guy gets divorced and marries a second wife, that's not included in those statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 12:01 AM
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I'm posting under automod, since I'm not disagreeing. I think there's a problem with people on both extremes - angry FDSers and incels. The extreme people shout dumb exaggerated claims at each other, and it makes it difficult to have a nuanced conversation. I get the suspicion that bitter women and incels get a dopamine hit every time they say something bad about the other gender. It feels more like some people are indulging their anger than anything else. Not sure how the mods can draw clear li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:30 AM
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There are tools that show you the crossover of various subreddits. FDS does have a fair amount of overlap with PPD. I remember looking it up a while ago. It seems to be broken right now (hopefully, it's only temporarily down). https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/purplepilldebate https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/femaledatingstrategy Edit: Someone else posted the stats a while back: 62.92% - incelswithouthate 61.15% - femaledatingstrategy 52.23 % - asktrp 47.43% - …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:18 AM
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It makes more sense for women to be "biologically wired" to pursue multiple men at the same time since they'd get more resources that way. Nah. It's been shown in hunter-gatherer tribes that if a woman sleeps around with too many men, none of the men will take any responsibility for the child, and that child has a higher rate of childhood death. Playing the "multiple males" game is a dangerous game that can blow-up in women's faces and result in her doing a bad job at passing on her genes. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:35 AM
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Yup. And let's also mention that some women are incredibly bad at signaling interest. Here's an example: One of my female friends (who's around 30, i.e. not a teenager) told me once that when she likes a guy, she gets really uncomfortable around him and will actively avoid him. On the other hand, there have been a few times when I've been around women who take a sudden and very intense interest in me - talking one-on-one, asking me all kinds of questions, wanting to really know me, and basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:28 AM
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Looks to me like young (20-something) women cheat more than young (20-something) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:23 AM
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Nope. That might make you a "high value man" to low-education, low-class women. But it isn't going to get you very far with high quality, attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 04:50 AM
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But it's the 'women' over at FDS that had to get nasty and start out talking 'high value' and 'low value' I agree. When I hear someone talking about a person being "high value" or "low value", I immediately think of FDS. I don't know if I've ever heard a guy refer to women as "high value" or "low value".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 04:40 AM
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I'd be careful about accepting what Skankar Vedantam says at face-value. I've caught him saying false things before - and his bias is pro-feminist, so when he's wrong, he's wrong in precisely that direction. Plus, research into criminal justice system shows that men get punished more harshly than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:45 AM
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Well, I tried creating a female profile on Tinder a while back. What I saw was VERY different from what those posts are saying. After creating the account, I swiped right on the first 100 profiles that came up. Within 2 days, the profile had about about 50 matches and over 20 messages. None of the messages were creepy and none of them were simple "WYD?" messages. Most of them referenced something in the short 3 sentence bio I had added. There was only one sort of weird message where I guy wrote …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:56 AM
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You could rate them from 0 to 5 stars or something and 4 and up was a match. It doesn't imply in any form that the raters considers what they call a 3 to be "average", just that they have no interest in a match. If that were true, then there would be a large cluster of men rated at close to "3". I mean, if you truely thought someone was a "4" or a "5", would you just give them a "1" (rather than a "3") so that you wouldn't match with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:16 AM
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Lol. Sorry, but that isn't true at all. Here's an example: profiles of a male model and female model on Tinder. The female model easily gets far more matches. https://youtu.be/lY8rzo4Ik4M?t=67
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:17 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jts7wa/obsession_with_cuckoldrys_shows_a/gc89o5f/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 06:05 AM
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Nah. Here's how it actually works: Let's say you have two kids (i.e. replacement level fertility). Your child: 1/2 of your genes. But since you have two kids: 2 children x (1/2) of your genes = 1 full copy of yourself. (Not an exact replica, of course. Some of your chromosomes have 0 copies. Other chromosomes have one copy in one of your children. Other chromosomes have two copies - one in each of your two children. But, on average, it's 1 complete copy of yourself.) Your grandchild: 1/4th of yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 05:37 AM
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I think SMV and RMV takes more of those other factors into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 04:34 AM
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My "looksmatch" is the best woman who I can attract. Nah, because there's lot of factors involved in what you can attract. "Looksmatch" refers to someone of equal physical attractiveness. It doesn't take into account a man's personality, wealth, status, etc that can attract women. Same for women. If a woman is physically beautiful, but is unattractive in every other way, she might find herself dating less attractive men. I remember going to my friend's wedding years ago. One of the guys there wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:24 AM
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Nah. I'm moderately muscular and low bodyfat. I'm 5'11", 175 pounds. If that guy is 6'3" 180 pounds, he's not muscular. It's possible that he looks like a rock climber, though - skinny, low bodyfat, visible muscle definition, but not big muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:12 AM
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It's definitely more of a woman thing to be into criminals and murderers. I don't know why people act like both genders have all kinks in equal proportions. Studies on the frequencies of various sexual fantasies show a clear gender gap between men's and women's fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:57 AM
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I also hear a lot of men on here saying saying they wish a woman would rape them because they think it proves they are sexually desirable. Where did you hear that? Rape fantasies seem to be more of a woman thing. And one of the reasons those women like the idea is that they like the idea that they drive a man so crazy that he can't stop himself. In that case, it's about ego validation. Admittedly, I don't think it's the only reason women have rape fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:54 AM
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that smell was an indicator that the blood type of that man would likely lead to birth difficulties and problems with potential children due to blood type incompatibility. I don't believe that it reveals "blood type". Maybe you mean it reveals MHC genes (since that's the typical claim). Although, I would like to see some real evidence that (1) smell actually reveals MHC, and (2) it makes more than a 2% difference in actual mate selection. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if people were turned-of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:43 AM
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I dunno. I know quite a few guys who are bisexual. I think, as homosexuality has become less demonized, men are more willing to admit (to themselves and others) that they're down for gay sex. Over time, I think we'll be seeing a more guys be open about being down for sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 03:27 AM
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Based on the number of men/women with diagnosed depression or on anti-depressants, more women suffer from depression. I suppose one could argue that there's a diagnosis gap between men and women, though. Also, more women attempt suicide. Whether it's just a cry for help (i.e. not "real" suicide attempts) or if it's simply a result of women using more reversible suicide methods (like pills, rather than guns) is always debatable, though. If it's the latter, then they are real suicide attempts, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:01 AM
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That was a long way of saying that you agree that people should lower the risk of their children becoming delinquents by being married and monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:45 AM
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You're arguing that single-parent households can make good and bad kids, and married households can make good and bad kids, therefore, it's all the same? I don't believe that's a good way to look at the issue. You could say the same thing about any risk factor we deal with in life. And everything has some level of risk. A smoker can just say, "Well, you could smoke your whole life, and never get cancer. You could never smoke and get cancer." They'd be right, of course - 15% of lung cancer patien…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 04:38 AM
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90% of women are far-left. Who wants to be friends or lovers with Drone 321 from the Borg hive mind? 53% of white women in the US voted for Donald Trump in 2016. A source: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politics/white-women-helped-elect-donald-trump.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 07:28 AM
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First: I noticed Shankar Vedantam was part of that conversation. He's the host of "Hidden Brain". I've fact-checked some of his statements in the past and figured out that he doesn't always tell the truth. He's biased towards feminist causes and lies/exaggerates things in ways to play into that worldview. I consider him dishonest and not worth listening to. Second: what they say in the article is contradicted by actual studies of prison sentences. Women get much shorter prison sentences for comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 07:20 AM
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The song "WAP" has been criticized heavily by conservative outlets. Yes, because conservatives are socially conservative and generally want a less sexually promiscuous culture. This also plays into their desire for kids to be raised inside nuclear families, rather than by single moms (which is one of the effects of a promiscuous culture). With so many women defending the song, and calling it empowering, it doesn't seem like women are interested in hiding just how dirty minded they, too, are... I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:46 AM
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https://ibb.co/w6HkBz9 FDS actually used that text message as an example of something good? Even if we skip past the part where the women gives nothing back in that conversation, the fact of the matter is that any guy who wrote a text message like that is emotionally unstable and possibly bipolar. It reminds me of a guy friend of mine when I was around 4th grade. He was constantly on an emotional rollercoaster with every girl he had a crush on. He would cut himself (actually putting her initials…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 07:08 AM
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Were your grandmothers, great grandmas and great aunts all toxic abusive entitled women? Because FDS isn’t doing anything but what our grandmas did. If they talked shit about men like FDS does, then yeah, they absolutely were toxic abusive entitled women. I'm pretty sure grandma didn't use "moids" and "scrotes" to refer to males.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:59 AM
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FDS was definitely a response to TRP! No. What FDS tells women is a lot of stuff in "The Rules" - which was published in 1995, combined with a bunch of "men are trash" talk. Saying it was a response to TRP makes it sound like FDS was a counter-reaction to TRP, as if TRP threw the first punch and FDS was merely fighting back. It wasn't that way at all. See if any of these sound familiar: Rule #4: Don’t Meet Him Halfway or Go Dutch on a Date Rule #5: Don’t Call Him and Rarely Return His Calls Rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 06:54 AM
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You hate it because you don’t have it I hate it, too, and I'm a man. Maybe your opinions about other people's opinions are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:16 AM
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Gross. Do you consider yourself a chubby chaser?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 06:03 AM
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I don't believe that's true. I love thin women. And not the whole "heroin chic" thing which looked sickly and was mostly driven by modelling getting extreme about thinness. The whole "thicc" thing is ugly and it's mostly driven by black men. Most middle-class and upper-class white men still like thin. It's also worth noting that there's a cultural difference between how black men and middle/upper class men behave when it comes to thirsting over women. White men aren't as forward. I constantly se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 05:58 AM
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It was not uncommon for married couples to have seven or eight children... Until 1850, roughly three-quarters of Americans older than 65 lived with their kids and grandkids. Nuclear families existed, but they were surrounded by extended or corporate families. Sounds like fiction to me. And I don't mean the "grandparents living with their children and grandshildren" part. I mean - if people had 7 or 8 children, it's mathematically impossible for every family (i.e. husband, wife, children) to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:40 AM
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No we don't. Additionally, historical data shows how false that story is. First: black men have it better than they did 50 or 100 years ago. Now, lookup the marriage and divorce rates for black men over the past century. What do you see? You see that marriage rates have dropped like crazy and divorce rates have increased. All of this happening over the same period of time that black people are getting more rights and suffering less discrimination. (And don't come back with "black people still ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:27 AM
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Statistically single mothers are the worst family type. do you have stats of kids from abusive households ? You're going back to the false dichotomy of single mother versus abusive households. 39% of kids are born out of wedlock. Among black children, it's 70%. What percentage of men are abusive? Do you think that 70% of black men are abusive? If every single mother was in an abusive relationship, and that's why she's single, then sure, your argument works. But abuse rates aren't at 70%. So, you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:16 AM
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And misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:27 AM
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Watch out, grandpa Simpson is going to throw another quip in your direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:11 AM
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I thought this was a CMV. Your comment agrees with OP, rather than challenging it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:56 AM
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How gayness can avoid being selected out of the gene pool is also an interesting question. One theory is that gays are over-represented in high status positions allowing them to spread their genes indirectly by providing advantages to their siblings and other close relatives. There was a study a while back showing that female relatives of gay men had more children. It was theorized that there was a gay gene, and when it was in women, it resulted in women being more horny for men - and therefore …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:38 PM
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I don't believe anybody loves unconditionally. I don't even believe we love children unconditionally. What I will say is that there's a spectrum. On the far end of the spectrum is our biological children: people will go massively out of their way to love their own children. Kids can be downright terrible, and parents will still love them. I think there's a breaking-point, but it's difficult to reach that point. I think this love is driven largely by our genes - i.e. the desire to protect and hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 05:28 PM
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What are you talking about? There are plenty of insults for men. Stupid. Weak. Animal. Spaz. Retarded. Psycho. Autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 08:23 AM
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male sexuality is still celebrated everywhere You didn't provide examples of male sexuality being celebrated. You provided examples where men can slightly indulge their sexual desire for women. "Celebrated" and "indulged" are two different things. When men go to a prostitute, it's also not about a celebration of male sexuality. It's an indulgence of male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 08:08 AM
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Gay men seem especially disgusted by it. /s Seriously, though, the fact that gay men love male sexuality shows that this isn't actually what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:47 AM
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Never have I seen a pic of vagina. I don't know what you're talking about. Depending on the culture, penises and vaginas are both used in fertility festivals. https://unboundbabes.com/blogs/magazine/a-call-for-the-revival-of-vagina-vulva-worship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_gig https://sofiasundari.com/yoni-puja-the-worship-of-the-feminine-essence/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5YRB6Hn6iU
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:46 AM
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There's much more men that refuse to eat pussy than there are women who refuse to suck dick. I don't believe that. I looked it up, and there's a variety of contradictory information on that. "While the difference is greatest in the 20 to 24 year old range (with only 55 percent of men saying they’ve given it in the past year, compared to 74 percent of women), the tables turn as we age. In the 30 to 39 age range, 69 percent of men report having given a woman oral sex, while only 59 percent of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:37 AM
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What about the disgust directed by males toward homosexual males (common when I was growing up)? Maybe it's rooted in a man's psychology to prevent himself from being gay - which is against his genes' desire to spread to the next generation. It's also important to stop your male children from being gay if you want grandchildren (again, spreading one's genes). Also, there's a a deep dislike of not just "gayness" but it's even stronger against effeminate gayness. I think this is based on the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 07:22 AM
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You fought for your country not women. Reading that statement makes me think about how often women and "protecting women" is used in war propaganda. Like: https://www.bl.uk/britishlibrary/~/media/bl/global/world-war-one/collection-item-images/women-britain-say-go.jpg https://www.metmuseum.org/-/media/images/blogs/now-at-the-met/2017/2017_12/printed-propaganda/1.jpg https://j387mediahistory.weebly.com/uploads/6/4/2/2/6422481/7015410_orig.jpg https://i.insider.com/59811c9a4528e621008b6569?width=60…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:54 AM
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That's also how a man should move on if a woman isn't interested in him, by having multiple options. Let's also not forget that a man's options require actually hitting on women (something that a decent guy isn't going to do while in a LTR). Whereas, women get hit on regardless of whether they are in a relationship. She has options presented to her without violating the trust of the relationship. Men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:31 AM
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Women don't have more options than men. Yes, they do. Average women have lots of men who want to pump and dump or plate them. Yes, they also have those. But, they still have more men who want to LTR them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:28 AM
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I don't know what article you read. It looks like the large majority of blame is put on men in that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:23 AM
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Aye, that sort of thing contributes to the whole 'walkaway wife' phenomenon The problem with that man-blaming explanation is the fact that lesbians have much higher divorce rates. I think we need to slow-down on the man-blaming for everything and accept the fact that women are more demanding about relationships. This is also why female-female platonic relationships are also more unstable. I've seen shit go down between women that rarely happens between men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 06:18 AM
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Do you mean that when people talk badly about their ex that they frame their ex-girlfriend as crazy and their ex-boyfriend as abusive/douchebag? Most of my ex-girlfriends are decent people, and I wouldn't really have any problems saying they would be a good girlfriend for someone else. But, I had one girlfriend about four years ago that was horrible. Throughout our 9 month relationship, she maintained a long-distance relationship with another guy, cheated on me with three other guys - including …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:13 AM
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They're not the only ones. https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/search?q=scrotes&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=year https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/search/?q=moids&sort=relevance&restrict_sr=on&t=year
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:55 AM
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But doesn’t the red pill look down on women? Maybe that question is best directed at Red Pill users, but I think lots of men are turned off by the very negative stuff about women on the Red Pill. That's one of the main reasons I stopped visiting the sub. I think both the Red Pill and FDS are overly negative about the opposite sex, and I think it's unhealthy for the users themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:50 AM
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Even as a man, I don't see what is actually offensive about FDS. I don't see how you could have that opinion unless your opinion of FDS is based purely on what pro-FDS users tell you - which is a highly edited version of what FDS says. I've seen plenty FDS women on PPD who will only mention the most positive, least offensive FDS stuff, and won't mention the other parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:36 AM
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Women dying is treated as tragedy ONLY if she’s a mom or wife. Something related to manhood. No. I don't know what world you're living in. Heck, even news headlines do it. They say "-- people dead, including -- women and children". The news most definitely isn't making distinctions between moms, wives, and single women. It's seen as especially tragic when bad things happen to women and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:58 AM
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Women's worth as humans, to men, is about their practical use and ability to be used for specific purposes. And vice-versa? Haven't you heard the saying "A broke man is like a broke hand: it's good for nothing." ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:54 AM
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Not saying that he's right, but that chart only shows the median age of first marriage - without taking account of whether there are any divorced happening. I'm sure there were plenty of people who got married in their early 20s and were divorced by 30 -- and those people would show up as "married" on your chart since they did get married at one point. Here's a different chart that covers Americans, age 25-34 year-old. About 40% are married, and another 15% cohabitating. So, around 55% are marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:03 AM
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He's saying that those types of men (the ones that know pornstars stats) don't have girlfriends and wives. They're not the ones being settled for. The types of guys that are being settled for (and therefore are in relationships) aren't the weirdos that know pornstar's stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:56 AM
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"But she wanted the dumb jocks in high school and now she wants to good guy?!" Yeah. That's called maturity. Just like the girls that men wanted in their teens will not be the same one they want in their 30s. This is especially important when the person wants to have a family. and Okay, back when he was younger and dumber, all he wanted was a hot girl. That’s normal. Your comment here and your post are conflating two different things: you're conflating "his/her tastes have changed compared to wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:43 AM
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about 18% of men received no messages from women So 88% of the men received a message 100% - 18% = 82%.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 05:31 PM
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The OkCupid data shows that woman rate most men as below average, but despite this they tend to send messages to men they perceive as a similar attractiveness level to them. Men actually tend to message only the most attractive women, here is a comparison. It's hard for me to make any kind of real comparison between those graphs. On both graphs, everyone is more likely to message more attractive people and less likely to message less-attractive people. I can tell, for example, that the most attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 05:28 PM
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because we live next to a giant university and there are constantly hot girls around who want to get fucked by slightly older guys (29+). I don't even have a car. I am telling you: it's not an issue. Let's not forget that universities are also heavily skewed female. Women are 40% more likely than men to go to college, so universities are an artificial environment where there's a ratio of 140 women : 100 men. That alone puts things in men's favor, but it's also a rare situation for men to be in. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 07:59 AM
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With sex, it seems like you don’t value what the person has done for you? If you used tinder to go to a girls house, get a massage, and leave, you would feel guilty not showing appreciation or reciprocity in some way, wouldn’t you? It depends on what you mean by "reciprocate". Personally, I'm nice to every woman I sleep with. I certainly wouldn't kick her out after sex. The payment that you give to a masseuse is money. When it comes to sex, though, both parties should have an enjoyable time. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:49 AM
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Yeah I woudn't sleep with someone I wouldn't want to be around. I always feel connected to someone during/after sex. It seems like this is a fairly common disconnect between men and women on PPD. There are women I'm somewhat attracted to, and would sleep with and I want us both to have a good experience. That doesn't mean I want to date her. And it's not as shallow as "I just want to get off". Personally, I care about the women I sleep with - but when I say I "care about them", I don't mean "I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 02:37 AM
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When the sex is awesome guys stick around. I'm a guy, and I don't believe that's true, either. I've slept with women that were attractive and good in bed, but there were other things about her that made me not want to make her my girlfriend. Stuff like: past mental health issues, possible drinking problems, financial irresponsibly, or a woman who couldn't seem to hold a job for more than a few months before she got fired. I remember one woman and her friend talking about how they just wanted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 02:15 AM
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I said that she deserves the comment, not that she deserves the beat-down. It's obvious there's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:47 AM
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Ha ha. I just watched the 3rd link (the Joe Rogan clip with that woman). I scrolled down and one of the top comments is "I hear War Machine is single." She deserves that comment. Edit: Jesus. I just saw that Warmachine got engaged. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5982047/Ex-MMA-fighter-War-Machine-jailed-attack-Christy-Mack-gets-engaged.html
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:31 AM
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are there any redeeming qualities that she can have that would make up for her looks and what are they? No, not for me, personally. But this depends on the guy and how attractive he is. Maybe by improving herself, she can date guys who are "4"s and "5"s rather than "3"s. That's an improvement, and it's worth doing. If she can do all of the above (more educated, learning to love herself, physically more attractive via makeup, plastic surgery, and losing weight) then that would be the best option.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:49 AM
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you know the man isn't interested, but your friends pressure you more than 10 times to go chase him and give him your number anyway I don't know about that. It sounded like they wanted to see you together with him, and didn't know it was futile. I am from the US. Why do you ask? I did figure these stories would offer an unseen perspective to men, and this is why I wanted to share. They just sounded unusually harsh. I would easily expect a good looking man to dance with 4+ women in a night. Oh, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:02 AM
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I don't understand how #3 is a rejection. It sounds like you talked a bit, he wasn't interested and wandered off. The part about everyone "wanted [you] to be rejected and/or used" seemed like a questionable interpretation. Also, reading your stories made me wonder if you live in a foreign country. I should mention that I absolutely do believe in female privilege in the dating world. This doesn't mean women don't get rejected, "used for sex", lied to by men in order to have sex, or physically/emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:19 AM
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Right. Hormonal contraception also significantly raises the risk of suicide among women. The actual numbers matter. You can't compare "X raises suicide risks in group A" and "Y raises suicide risks in group B" and treat it like it's the same without doing any kind of quantitative comparison. For example, driving your car to work at a normal speed raises your risk of dying in a car accident, and driving to work at 120 MPH without a seatbelt also raises your risk of dying in a car accident. It'd b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:37 AM
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What is the probability of getting a woman pregnant with a condom though ? About 2% per year, if the condom is used perfectly. "Typical use" of condoms have higher rates of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:29 AM
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There have been other options tested but the side effects were too horrible for the men. Despite the fact that they were basically the same as the hormonal birth control women take (mood swings, weight gain, acne, etc). No. That was the misinformation promoted by feminists in order to claim female victimhood. The research study was cut short by the researchers, not the men. NPR: One man developed severe depression, and another tried to commit suicide. Because of that, they cut the study short. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:23 AM
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This post is clearly referring to men getting rejected by women. Contextually, it doesn't change your point to say "people", and the original post was fairly gender neutral. Although if you are looking to aim criticism at men specifically, then it makes sense to say "guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 06:53 AM
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And that's not getting into the fact that a lot of guys get pissed off if you're not gentle in letting them down. You misspelled "people". I've had plenty of women accuse me of being gay because I wasn't into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 05:57 AM
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Probably why a lot of gay male couples have open relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:52 AM
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Gay male couples actually have a higher overall dissolution. I've read the opposite. And I'm overall pretty skeptical of PsychologyToday given their track record of making stuff up that was actually the opposite of what their sources say. Some other sources: [In a Belgian study] [B]etween 2004 and 2009, lesbian divorce rates were nearly double of those of gay men. [In a Dutch Study] The lesbian divorce rate is much higher than the divorce rate between men: in the same period on average 100 women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:49 AM
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psylobin containing mushrooms or cocaine are illegal. Mushrooms are legal in a few places - like Amsterdam and Denver, Colorado. https://www.9news.com/article/news/denver-decriminalized-magic-mushrooms-heres-what-that-means/73-e31405c2-9eca-473a-a185-45eac5237917
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 06:51 AM
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By the way, your comment reminded me of this video from a few months ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbL2gTjAM50
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 06:37 AM
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There is no "team man". Women have an stronger in group bias (as we know from the "women are wonderful" study). Male jurors are more likely to convict an accused male rapist. Link: https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/stanford-rape-case-female-dominated-juries-less-likely-to-convict-in-rape-cases-404525.html The whole "not like other girls" thing gets women angry because, essentially women see that as some woman putting down women in general. They use derision to attack that kind of anti-woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 06:14 AM
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So men will defend other men from rape accusations because they figure they could be in the same situation, either because they know they have the capacity to commit the act and/or they fear false accusations. I'm not sure about that. There was a study a while back about rape cases. They looked at juries on rape cases, and they found that male juries were more likely to convict an accused male rapist. Women on juries were less likely to convict. (This comes as a shock to feminists who tend to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 05:58 AM
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I've had several guy "friends" try to sleep with my girlfriends. None of them were particularly close friends, but they were close enough that I would've expected them to not go behind my back like that. I also wonder how many other instance there where guy "friends" have attempted this and I didn't find out about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 05:53 AM
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That's a dumb sub, and it doesn't reflect reality. People on that sub downvote commenters who give more positive ratings to women. I guarantee that those women who are voted a "5" or "6" get a hell of a lot more attention from the opposite sex than men who are voted higher. My guess is that angry incels are going around trying to make women feel bad by giving low ratings, upvoting low ratings, and downvoting higher ratings. Heck, I saw one pretty girl on there where a commenter voted "7", and pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 05:08 PM
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Slightly off topic, but I heard about a study a while back - they showed kids a bunch of uncomforable videos. I forget the details, but I think it was stuff like situations where an animal might get hurt, etc. They measured kids' emotional reactivity to these situations. Then, years later, they looked at how many of them were involved in crime. Not surprisingly, kids with low emotional reactivity were more likely to have been in trouble later in life - committing crimes, etc. Kids with high reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:38 AM
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There's a quote by Esther Perel (a famous couples therapist) who says exactly this: that female sexuality is inherently narcissistic in the sense that she loves being desired. For those who don't know who she is: https://www.google.com/search?q=Ester+Perel (1.5 million hits on google) Female Sexuality Can Be Narcissistic (in a Good Way) In contrast to what I hear from my male patients, many women tell me they’re animated by being the turn on. Her flicker comes from inside, not from the other, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 05:36 AM
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Wow well I'm sorry, what were the chances? Yeah, I understand that what I was suggesting was a long-shot, and I understand why someone might have a lot of doubt about what I was saying. So they wrote the wrong discussion without noticing? Yeah, I had noticed that the discussion seemed to match what the graphs were saying. My guess is that with all the sender/receiver male/female labels involved, something got switched. Well this renders these numbers less significant because on that dating websi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:51 PM
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I had posted it on the other thread so I might as well post here, too, and I don't think there's anything private in the email message, so: https://imgur.com/6Pywyk1 (Off topic, but, I really appreciate that researchers take time to respond to anyone asking about their work.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:39 PM
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I had posted it on the other thread so I might as well post here, too, and I don't think there's anything private in the email message, so: https://imgur.com/6Pywyk1 (Off topic, but, I really appreciate that researchers take time to respond to anyone asking about their work.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:34 PM
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This difference is greatest for the least desirable [women]senders, whereby fewer than 10% send messages to men at similar desirability levels and more than half sent messages to alters in the medium-high and highest level quintiles. While I agree that "fewer than 10% send messages to men at similar desirability levels" is what Table 4 shows, it's worth pointing out that the least desirable men had a similar (though not as strong) pattern. Table 4 shows that 16% of the messages sent by the least…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:16 PM
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Is also massive. 50% of the time you shoot your shot, you can punch up... as an average dude. Yup. Maybe they had some things in common or he's funny or whatever. Admittedly, it would be interesting to see things broken down into more tiers. A 3-star man means that he's in the 40th-60th percentile. "Dating up" means that he's talking to a woman in the 60th-80th percentile. There's some vagueness here because, technically, he might be at the 58th percentile and she's at the 62nd percentile (i.e. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:57 AM
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This is true. I've seen incels make some pretty extreme claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:41 AM
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I thought I was finally talking to someone intelligent, but of course not. You're just another crazy biased boy who would rather conclude that an entire research team that worked on getting an article published accidentally flipped a label and no one noticed than believe your world view is false. The lengths of the intellectual dishonesty you go to are neverending... Hi /u/Sewud. Thanks for your response. After I had written my previous comment, I emailed the professor who wrote this article ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:39 AM
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It sounds like you're contradicting worldnewsie, but I can't actually find anything where you're actually disagreeing with him. Worldnewsie: And seeing the way they talk about men and saying the vast majority of men are LVM - logically this means the vast majority of women would be better off unmarried rather than married according to FDS. VaporwaveVampire: A HVM isn’t a “perfect” man. Nobody was arguing that HVM are perfect. Worldnewsie: HVM are objectively a small proportion of the male popula…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:42 PM
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Your eugenics program is based on looks alone? That seems like a small-gain for a large cost on people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:11 AM
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True genius never resides in an attractive shell. That seems doubtful. I'm guessing the "true genius" phrase will give you plenty of room to move the goalposts, though. I don't think Einstein looked bad when he was young. Most people aren't recognized as geniuses until they're older - because they have to be smart, have accomplished something notable, and have to be recognized for it being correct - which takes time. And older people aren't generally considered good-looking. For example, Darwin …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:52 AM
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A number of years ago, someone was going around offering drug addicts money if they would be sterilized. That was very controversial and very criticized. And it's easier to make a case for preventing drug addicts from having kids than it is to argue for genetics-based sterilization. A government doing it? That would be 10x as controversial and criticized. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Prevention https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/jun/12/barbara-harris-sterilise-drug-addicts-alcohol…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 08:28 AM
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I haven't studied the table that shows where the messages go, but could it be that all women mostly message 5-star men, and then throw a few messages to other men who seem to fit their type, while men are more likely to consistently message women one tier above their level? Looking at the table, that doesn't seem to be what's going on. It's hard for me to accept any conclusions based on Figure 5 when the data seems self-contradictory. It makes me wonder if they messed up the mathematics when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:07 AM
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She's my ex-wife because she was never actually attracted to me and I had no idea Do you know why she decided to marry you? It seems odd to go through with a marriage to someone that she wasn't attracted to. Was it about having kids and you were seen as a potential good father/income-earner or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:31 AM
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I hate arriving late to discussions because I feel like everyone has already moved on after 20 hours. What these passages refer to is Figure 5 where middle 20% female receivers initially talk to 69% of bottom 40% men and after 5 messages it's only 40%, and middle 20% male receivers initially talk to 50% of bottom 40% women and after 5 messages it's only 23%. I'm not sure if I'm misreading it, but first point on those graphs is "0 reciprocated exchanges" - i.e. the man/woman received a message an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:27 AM
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I get the sense that this is actually a "let's trash men!" post by making men look shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:20 PM
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Statistics on frequency of masterbation: https://i.huffpost.com/gen/1834398/thumbs/o-MASTURBATE-IS-GREAT-570.jpg Also, lookup statistics on how often gay men, heterosexual couples, and lesbian couples have sex. Gay men have the most sex. Heterosexuals have a moderate amount of sex. Lesbian couples (especially long-term lesbian couples) have the least sex. Men appear to have the higher sex drive when you look at those numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 09:22 AM
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It varies dramatically by geographic location. It happens more often in large cities among the lower-class. In bigger cities, people feel the need to be loud to get noticed because everyone is basically ignored unless they're loud. If you go look at that video from a few years ago involving a woman walking through New York City, you can see that it was mostly black/latino men. It was so skewed that some people were accusing the film-makers of making minority men look bad. On Wednesday, author an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:21 AM
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My general opinion is that dating, sex, relationships are easier for women than men - or more accurately, for equivalently attractive women and men. (Example: Ugly or average women have it harder than attractive men.) That's not to say that women don't have unique pitfalls - like men who just want to hookup and never have a relationship. Also, many of the things that women worry about are not worth worrying about. For example: I cant grow bigger tits by just working out. Big tits are not as impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:02 AM
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https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-never-married-08/ Source: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:27 AM
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Good to know that I've never treated a ONS with disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:19 AM
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You mean kind of like of FDSers talk about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:18 AM
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She's on the FDS subreddit. You can't expect much more than anti-male vitriol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:47 AM
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FDS women: "OMG! Good for you, queen! You need to put those scrotes in their place, and if anyone says you're wrong, just clap-back with 'scrotes be mad'."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 07:08 AM
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You just need to be ok with him weighing 200 lbs and being 5’ 8” because that’s what the average man is Yeah, and the "average man" is 45 years old, too. In reality, the "average man" in the US is 5'9" and in her age-group, the median weight is 155-160 pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:53 AM
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Women have a weird belief that they need to have big boobs and big butts. It's simply not true. Don't let Kim Kardashian and Iggy Azalea fool you. They ONLY reason they have butt-implants is because they're going for black guys, and black guys like that. (And, let's be honest, there's a lot of reasons you shouldn't go for black guys anyway.) I'm a guy, and I've never jerked off to women with big butts. They're not attractive, and in many cases they just look weird and ugly. For example, I can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:47 AM
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Good job, and good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:03 AM
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Reminds me of those Emma Watson quotes: https://i.redd.it/5t1czyqvm0vz.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:50 AM
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What's even weirder is that I did a search for "math" in that thread he linked to, and I didn't find anybody making that argument. Admittedly, I didn't read the whole thread, but the fact that the quote was fictional and I couldn't find anyone using the word "math" and making that argument makes it seem like he made-up the argument in his head.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:39 AM
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I generally agree with this, but I would add that there are also external reasons helping to drive female cooperation. One of them is the idea of the patriarchy, sexism, and men holding them down. That gives women an external threat to unite against. Having a common enemy (whether real or imagined) unites people. This is also why men can cooperate well in war - because they have an external enemy and a motive (working with others helps their own survival more than working against your own squadm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:59 PM
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Since when do I bash women? I think they're overprivileged, yes, but I've never used any slurs against them. Oh and nothing that I’ve said about men in this post wasn’t said by men themselves I can find plenty of crappy things that women say, too. I've visited FDS and plenty of subreddits and instagram pages that where women are gender supremacists, creating excuses for bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:52 PM
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Yes, they don’t value the relationship work women do but when they see the benefits they want in with no effort. In many cases, men don't care about the benefits of that work. If a woman wants to send birthday and holiday cards to everyone, that's fine. I don't care about that. But, somehow, that gets counted as "emotional labor that men aren't doing". Yeah, and we don't care about the hypothetical "benefits" that comes from doing that, either. Now, men have to "make up" for work they never want…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:46 PM
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Are you sure? (NSFW) A man fucked a tree. Therefore, all men will fuck anything. Solid reasoning there. Let me try it. Here's a serial killer. This is irrefutable proof that all men are serial killers. How am I doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:09 PM
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No. If that were true, then gay men wouldn't sleep around so much. Sex is intrinsically (feels good) and extrinsically (validation) valuable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:06 PM
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This also extends to FRIENDSHIPS. This is why women typically have deeper friendships than men. It's more complicated than that. Men are often cut-off from other men for a whole host of reasons. Boiling it down to one reason is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:54 AM
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How much can something really be worth if it’s handed away freely? That still doesn't follow. Oxygen and water are both valuable, despite being free. Further, there are things that have intrinsic value even if they're free - like friendship. If you lived in a world where everybody wants to be your friend, would you find friendship to be worthless? Only if you're using "friendship" as a metric to place yourself above everyone else - like someone who thinks they're awesome and special because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:49 AM
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It’s why a favorite line of men (you’re not like other girls) always gets hated on by women. I think what's going on there is that women hate when women describe themselves as "not like other women". They accuse them of "internalized mysogyny". What's actually going on, though, is that a woman who says "I'm not like other women" is putting herself above other women, and a woman hearing that gets angry and attacks her for "how dare you insinuate that you're better than me". It's just intra-gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:41 AM
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Can we stop with the man-bashing in this subreddit? We have way too many FDS users in this subreddit. Check it out for yourself: https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/purplepilldebate This thread pretty much confirmed a truth we all know deep down No, "this thread" did not confirm that. Yes, there are some men who are willing to sleep around with unattractive women. There are some men who will have sex with ugly prostitutes. So what. There's quite a few incels in PPD. A lot of incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:25 AM
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lol wut? No they aren't. Black women are leaving black men. The link you posted on the other comment includes this graph: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-09/ It looks to me like black men are marrying outside their race at much higher rates than black women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:14 AM
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Also it’s not too bizarre. Black Americans have been in America for a while and black men have carved out their own media niche. No man is going to promote himself as being sexually undesirable, at least not without sexually desirable promotion to balance it out. I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's the casting agents and directors who are deciding who's getting on TV and who's not. They're the ones creating the storylines, picking the race of the characters, picking the actors to play t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:09 AM
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It's just tribalism. Their women are for them and your women (other race) are for them also. I sort of agree with you. But, I also think that people know that it's generally easier to date someone within your own race (that's what most people do, afterall). If someone from another race is dating a girl from your own race, it sort of feels like you lost-out to a guy who had a disadvantage. It's like losing a boxing match to a guy that had one hand tied behind his back. It can be a bigger blow to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:54 AM
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Nah for a lot of these men it's definitely about the age. I've seen many older dudes brag about having a young gf but the gf in question is incredibly plain looking That argument seems rather questionable. I mean, imagine two guys with young girlfriends. One talks about his girlfriend's age. The second guy doesn't mention his girlfriend's age. You assume, then that the second guy isn't dating a younger woman. And now the first guy becomes the only example you know-of that's dating a younger woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:18 AM
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Reminds me of a post I saw on reddit a while back asking people about their experiences dating interracially. I was surprised about white guys talking about black men hitting on their (the white guy's) black girlfriend right in front of them. Saying stuff like "you know he [the white guy] ain't hitting it right" and generally just treating him like he wasn't a real person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:42 AM
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Asian male and white female couples are only one percent behind black male/white female ones so if you're saying one is common then the other is as well. I'm not sure what you're talking about. The statistics I posted show Asian male/white female couples as 4% of interracial couples. Black male/white female couples are at 7%. That's almost double. You mean my location as in Brooklyn and Manhattan? You're telling me interracial couples exist more commonly in other locations around America? Absolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:25 AM
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90% of married black men have a black spouse Your numbers are based on the 2010 US census data. It's the percentage of all couples who were in a marriage in 2010. My numbers were based on new marriages in 2014-2015. There's a reason these two statistics are different: the 2010 US Census numbers include everyone who was married sometime in the preceding 50+ years. Interracial marriage is becoming more and more common. It's not surprising, then that my numbers, based on people who got married in 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:08 AM
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Among minorities black men probably had the most useful promotion. They were stereotyped and an afterthought but they would sometimes still be seen as sexual beings in ways Asian and Indian men weren’t. Right. I already said as much with my earlier comment: "Maybe for Indians and Asians, but when it comes to the black-white divide, there are a lot more white women dating black men than there are white men dating black women." Honestly, I think black men are portrayed in TV and movies as more des…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:59 AM
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This whole discussion is about how common interracial couples are, of course current existing amount of interracial couples is the right figure to use. Well, no, because we're not 60 years-old. We're probably around prime-marrying age (20-40 years-old). So, we are paying more attention to what our peers are doing, and young people are more willing to date interracially. Also, if you're statistics are based on everyone who is currently married, there's a bias against high-divorce rate couples. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:41 AM
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I think he's just doing some weird performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:04 AM
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Okay. I'm unclear if you're trying to dispute what I'm saying. My statistics are based on newlyweds. Your statistics are based on everyone who has married anytime in the past 50+ years and are still together (which is obviously going to be lower since interracial marriage was less acceptable decades ago). In any case, both say the same thing: it's pretty common. Even if we use your lower numbers 8.5% of black men married a white wife, that's 1 out of 12. It's not so uncommon that you "can't reme…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:02 AM
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I'm confused about what you're saying in this comment. I think maybe you mistyped a few things and I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:57 AM
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Except that's not what the data says. The data shows that white women disproportionately date black men when they date interracially. https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/pst_2017-05-15-intermarriage-01-00/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:50 AM
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White men are much more open minded about dating out than white women. I don't know about that. 12% of white men married interracially, while 10% of white women married interracially, which doesn't seem like a big difference. When they marry interracially, they go in different directions, though: white men tend to marry asian women, and white women tend to marry black men. Also, if you ask people their views about dating interracially, it seems to be inconsistent. This graph seems to suggest tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:44 AM
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All dating sites showed that white men are the most desirable out of all races. While that's true, I'd point out that it doesn't capture the whole story. Black men are polarizing. There's a subset of white women who wouldn't date a black guy. But there's also a subset of white women who have a thing for black guys. When dealing with those women, it's easier for a black man to date her than it would be for a white guy. It can lead to a weird dynamic where a black guy can choose between dating bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:31 AM
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Flair: "Please don't take me seriously."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:19 AM
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It’s more common where I live to see BW/WM couples than the reverse. I'm surprised. I see probably 5x as many Black male/White female couples as Black female/White male couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:17 AM
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Well, 24% of black men marry interracially. Who do you think they're marrying? Also, I see plenty of black men out on dates with white women. In my neighborhood, I see more black men with white women than I do black men with black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:09 AM
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I am not white and I have only heard white men speaking derogatory terms against white women who date interracially. I've only seen derogatory remarks against white women who date black men, not against white women who date any other race, though. In terms of society's response: I agree with his argument that any white guy criticizing white women for dating black men will be met with accusations of racism and attacks on his character. The end result is that the man will look like the bad guy. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:04 AM
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Nah. When white women date interracially, they tend to date black men more often than Asian men. If you look at statistics of who earns the most money in the US (on average), Asian men earn the most money. White men earn the second highest. And black men are at the bottom. It's exactly the opposite of what you'd expect based on "who's rich". Admittedly, the divorce rates involving black men are also sky-high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:54 AM
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Fertility is just one factor into having children, healthy children is what people want. This is why sperm banks have a cut off age of around 35 for male donors. As I mentioned in another comment, the cutoff is 40, not 35. And some people have talked about raising it to 45. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/g7tsll/people_overglorify_youth_specfically_the_18_to_24/folzk7x/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:17 AM
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As for birth defects. It’s not just the egg that determines it, it’s also the quality of the sperm, which does decrease with age esp after 40. This is one of the reasons why sperm banks don’t accept ‘donations’ from men past 35. No. The maximum age for most places is 40, and there has been research suggesting raising it to 45. Current guidelines set the maximum age that men can be sperm donors at 40, but this research has prompted some to suggested that the age be raised to 45. https://www.mnn.c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:12 AM
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3% of the men on a campus doesn't represent 3% of the population. A third of men at least don't even go to college. Um. Your argument doesn't make any sense. Your argument was that less than 1% of men commit sexual assault. I said that 3% of men on college campuses are serial offenders. So... if 1/3rd of men don't go to college, and we claimed that non-college men NEVER commit sexual assault (which would be ridiculously wrong), it would still put the number at 2% for serial offenders which is ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:12 AM
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Men not having sex is a more serious issue than sexual assault because it effects far more people. I agree with some of what you wrote, but certainly not this one. Less than 1% of men commit sexual assault. It's more than that, but it's still a minority. As I recall, RAINN estimated that the majority of assaults on college campuses were done by 3% of the men. So, 3% are serial offenders, and there are some one-time offenders in addition to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:11 AM
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Right. Men make life worse for everyone. Women wouldn’t need protection if men weren’t awful. So, you treat men as a monolithic group. For example, all the good and bad that men caused in World War 2 balances out, rather than saying "Men who did X are bad, but men who did Y are good", huh? So, men who are the good guys get no credit for standing up against bad people simply because those bad people were also men. That seems like a pretty bizarre way of doing the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:28 AM
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If you're agreeing with HellienicLady, then you're not taking a very objective view of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:24 AM
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Quoting some random person on the internet doesn't prove anything. I've seen enough posts on FDS and various extreme female-centric subreddits to know that there's plenty of women making stupid remarks about men. I'm not drudging up their dumb opinions to make some dumb point about what women in general think about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:22 AM
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You will never see a society where male infants are murdered because their family doesn't want a male. You do see societies where they kill the female infants. "Contemporary writers from the Song dynasty note that, in Hubei and Fujian provinces, residents would only keep three sons and two daughters (among poor farmers, two sons, and one daughter), and kill all babies beyond that number at birth" In other words: they will kill sons. There was a thread a while back on GenderCritical where women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:20 AM
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Fds hates men that aren't chad Nah, they hate men that aren't chad and hate men who are chad but don't love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:20 AM
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It depends on the location (big cities means a higher percentage of guys trying to pickup women) and it depends on culture (which is connected to race and wealth). I've seen plenty of my female friends get messaged by guys they know in real-life, professing their love or trying to get her out on a date. In clubs, a woman can often get approached half a dozen times a night - and that varies a lot by the type of club. Black guys are typically the most active at trying to pickup women in bars and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:23 AM
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Wow, I just looked it up: $75,000/month when you combine child support + alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:11 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:01 AM
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Or it implies that their desires are totally self-based to the point where no one really matters. Seriously, do men want to have sex with a particular woman or do they just want to have.. sex? While I disagree with the whole "men will have sex with anyone" claim, I would also question this claim, too. Let me ask this: if someone could be friends with anyone, would that cause you to devalue their friendship? Or do you need to be friends with people who are only capable of being friends with a sma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:01 AM
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No, that's just internet hyperbole. I don't want to sleep with over 90% of the women I meet. If I'm not attracted to her, it wouldn't be fun and I'd much rather get myself off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:56 AM
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This is not an example of "basically a man who has [the] decency to take care of their partner and themselves". If the genders were reversed, you'd call her a pathetic pick-meisha. You're being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:16 AM
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If the genders were reversed, all the FDS women would be complaining that she's a total pickmeisha, she needs to have some self-respect, and stop acting like her purpose in life is to serve her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:07 AM
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Also, if the most attractive women get hit on the most, then it would require a significant percentage of men below their range hitting on them as the numbers wouldn't match up. By that logic, you can make the same claim about women - women are aiming out of their league as evidenced by the fact that hot guys get the most likes and matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 05:47 AM
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Pretty sure in online dating, the data is very clear that men routinely aim for outside their league. I'm not even sure what you're talking about. You can't "try" with a woman unless she matches with you. (I don't consider a right-swipe to be "trying".) And if she matches with me, why wouldn't I try? Also, your claim about "the data is very clear" requires a citation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 05:46 AM
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We don't live in ancient Greece and we don't live in a third-world country. NYTimes: Americans Might No Longer Prefer Sons Over Daughters New evidence suggests a shift, possibly because of “a subtle fear of boys and the trouble they might bring.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:07 AM
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Women in the study who were told they had a serious illness were seven times as likely to become separated or divorced as men with similar health problems, according to the report published in the journal Cancer. One thing that I'm always curious about with these statistics: does the very real possibility of bankruptcy in the US due to medical bills play any role in these divorces? Because medical bills are the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US, and I can't help but wonder what role that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:12 AM
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Women are often quite nice. I could come up with other information that reinforces what you're saying, BUT ... Women's preferences in dating ARE NOT like the way they act in the rest of life. Women can help sick, help children, help animals, etc, but will turn around and be disgusted by a man who needs help. At that point, maybe evolutionary psychology kicks in and says, "I demand only the best genes for my offspring". In the context of dating and relationships, it only makes sense that those gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:01 AM
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You're right. I mean George Clooney has only been named "Sexiest man alive" twice in his lifetime. Maybe the problem is women who have unusual tastes in men, and go around telling men that they have no idea what makes a man attractive, making men even more confused and misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:30 AM
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If he feeds me some bullcrap about not spending money on me because he wants me to prove that I like him for who he is, that’s a turn off. Funny enough, your comment reminds me of a conversation I once overheard at a coffeeshop. This woman was talking to a friend about how she has been with this guy for the past two months and she wasn't having sex with him because she wants to make sure he's in the relationship for long-term/marriage purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:24 AM
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Your post reminded me of this (the graph is from one of those old OKCupid blogs, where they analyzed their OKCupid data): https://www.tinderseduction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/MaleMessageDistributionByIncomeBright.png Still, liking people for the amount of money they have is really shallow, and it's not surprising that people feel like women are in love with a man's money rather than the man himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:16 AM
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Matriarchal societies have never oppressed men the way patriarchal societies do. What does this say about men and women? Nothing, because you have to compare similar-sized societies. I bet if you went and found some small tribe out in the forest somewhere, it's likely that even if it's "patriarchal", the women aren't oppressed. Most small culturally-insulated communities are rather egalitarian because it depends on how much each individual person argues for what they want. This system works terr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:43 AM
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Nope. The average age of first marriage is 29 years-old for men, and millenials report an average of 11 sexual partners in their lifetime. It works out to almost one sexual partner per year between 18 and 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:39 AM
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I tried to go verify the twitter quotes you posted. It looks to me like some of them are selling nudes and things. This raises some serious doubts about these being typical women in any sense. "this stupid fucking quarantine has prevented me from getting properly dicked down..." - This twitter account is literally a porn account. 100% of it is dirty-talk and porn images/videoclips. Girl #1: "quarantine sucks.... I wanna suck dick rn" - She posts a TON of porn on her twitter. As far as I can tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:57 AM
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The average man in the US has 7 sexual partners in his entire life. Get out of here with that "Yeah but they're all ugly trolls, spergy, or both" bullcrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:51 AM
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Stop being dumb. Pornography is not anti-sex. socially acceptable use of pornography by men is an indicator that they are more sex negative than women. That argument ONLY works if men were deliberately using pornography with the intention of avoiding sex (for example, if they were told that sex was bad, and therefore, pornography was a more acceptable outlet for their sexual urges). NOBODY in society, with the exception of very religious people, believe that. Out of curiosity, if I have sex inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:18 PM
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It predicted that the “Gen Z” kids will be very republican/ conservative. So they will probably make it more mainstream. Ha ha. That was a dumb conservative conspiracy theory. All the data says that it isn't true. Conservatives believe it because they wish it was true, and people will readily believe a lie if it fits what they want to believe. Funny enough, there's lot of people also complaining about how Gen Z is pushing harder for socialism than any other generation. Try to square those to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:10 PM
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A TON of men in relationships continue to watch porn even when sex is available to them. Oftentimes men DO prefer the substitute, in hearing the accounts of other men, this happens almost as often as they prefer to have sex. That's because men like novelty and enjoy seeing different women's bodies. I like to eat a variety of food. It doesn't make me "anti-carnivore" because I sometimes want to eat a vegetarian dish instead of a hamburger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:10 AM
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There's definitely a type of feminism that is sex-negative. These women see sex as playing into men's hands, and giving men what they want, whereas feminism should be about what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:04 AM
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Instead of telling people to have children IF they know for a fact that they will be good parents Oh please. That will never happen. Parenthood is always left up to the individual. Nobody will ever go around and tell people that they should have children because they'll "make good parents". It would be seen as a violation of their autonomy to tell people they should have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:02 AM
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If you date someone in your social circle and the relationship goes bad, then your ex and whichever of your friends they date after you will remain in your life forever. This is true. There have been times when I had to disconnect from an entire social-circle after, for example, my girlfriend (of 1.5 years) broke up with me. I just couldn't handle being at the same social events with her because it was too difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:04 AM
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You're in college. Colleges are now 58% women. This puts the ratio at nearly 1.4 women : 1 man on the average college campus (perhaps even higher on your campus). It's no wonder it's easy for college guys to talk about how easy it is to get girls - the girls in college are desperate because there aren't enough guys to go around. If every single college guy had a girlfriend, it would still leave almost 1/3rd of the college girls single. It will be different when you get out of college. Most major…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:29 PM
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Yup. And let's also not forget that colleges are now 58% women. This puts the ratio at nearly 1.4 women : 1 man on the average college campus. It's no wonder it's easy for college guys to talk about how easy it is to get girls - the girls in college are desperate because there aren't enough guys to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:27 PM
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That's still not a counterargument to what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:21 PM
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There are lots of different estimates of the ratio of men-to-women on dating apps. They vary so much, I stopped believing them. I wouldn't give any faith in the 78% percent number. I've seen claims ranging from Tinder is close to 1 man : 1 women to claims saying it's 9 men : 1 woman (i.e. 90% men). If you don't believe me, just google it and look at the first 10 or 20 links.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:04 AM
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All of this rating people out of 10 is a waste of time. You're either attractive to an individual person, or you're not. Yeah, but it's obviously related to your physical attractiveness. I'm not saying physical attractiveness is the only factor involved, and comparing only "physical attractiveness numbers" is dumb, but it's still an important one. Saying "You're either attractive to an individual person, or you're not." is sort of like saying "Why bother talking about how many MPH your car can r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:25 AM
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Well, here's one post about problems with the book: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2013/04/book-review-sex-at-dusk/ And: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2013/03/book-review-sex-at-dawn/ https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2013/03/book-review-sex-at-dawn-ii/ Basically, Sex At Dawn is written by two polyamory people trying to dress up polyamory as humanity's natural state, and cherry picking evidence to fit that narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 02:04 AM
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No. I've said plenty of times on this sub that men are not DTF all the time, and I'm not DTF any woman I meet. I've also had women get angry at me for not sleeping with them. On a few occasions, I've been accused of being gay because I turned down women who were DTF. Just because some rando on the internet says all men are DTF all the time with any woman doesn't mean it's true, and you're deflecting by treating them like the final-say on the subject, especially when other men are saying otherwis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:54 PM
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STOP treating people's responses on the internet to be indicative of an entire group of people. Look - every time you post or comment on something, you might have hundreds of people reading it. Most don't comment. There will be a subset of people who will comment. People who are angry are most likely to comment. Then you take that 1% of people who left an angry comment and turn it around and make big generalizations about it like "men don't like it when women are honest" (which I think is a ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:33 PM
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Yeah, because there's a real danger of violence when you're online and nobody knows who you are. /s Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:27 PM
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If she only wants 6ft5 ripped tattooed men, well I don't fit that category, so I can completely disregard her existence and consider a different woman. I'm not trying to defend guys who get angry, but I think there's a big difference between "this particular girl likes attribute X (that I don't have)" and "women in general really want attribute X (that I don't have)". In the first case, it's just per particular preference. In the second case, it means your dating life is going to be a whole lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:25 PM
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Number 1 rule on communication. Never ask a question you havent considered and reconciled the negative answers of what you dont want to hear. I honestly don't know how anybody can possibly ask any question, then. I mean, I think think of an offensive answer to pretty much any question I could ask, especially if it involves dating. Hell, she or he could give an answer insulting your race. "What kind of guys do you like?" Answer: "I think ____ guys are wimpy/pathetic/trash."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:22 PM
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Gender-reversed version: Men: "I like women who aren't fat" Women: "Body shaming! Beauty is culturally defined! Women have to conform to unobtainable beauty standards! We need to change them! Women shouldn't have to look like models!" Men: "Women don't actually want or like when men are honest about their preferences". So, who's wrong here? Men for having "unrealistic body standards for women" or women for failing to meet them? My guess is that in the original OP and in this one, it's the men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:15 PM
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What happens is that you need to learn how to play their game if the rules changed. If you can't, well too bad. So, women need to learn to dominate men with violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 09:02 PM
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HellinicLady hates men. Shit-talking about men is the way that she gets out her aggression towards men. She's just a troll, and we need to kick her out along with every single person who upvotes her posts. It's not a real discussion or debate. It's her being verbally aggressive against men. She needs a therapist, not a subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:53 PM
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Jesus. Just go away. By that logic, I could go to FDS, read lots of shit-talking about men, and then say, "I'm totally allow to lie and make-up shit about women, and we're all supposed to treat it like a real discussion".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 08:50 PM
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I don't know any women who have gotten an all expenses paid trip from a man. I do. I've seen a few of my female friends get them. As far as I can tell, the majority of women don't get that treatment, but some definitely do. I've also had friends get asked to be sugar babies by older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:05 AM
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I hate how these discussions revolve around talking purely about sex, and never attraction. I see countless posters and commenters who will pick between using the words "attraction" and "sex" in a manipulative way to drive a certain conclusion. Women can get sex attraction more easily than men can. The reason you don't say that is because it wouldn't allow you to limit the whole conversation to "just sex". On the flip side, when men complain about their dating prospects, there's always a bunch o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 07:01 AM
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You can literally get pussy by uploading a couple pictures on an app ....all you have to do is put in the work. Lol. Is this the same subreddit which regularly mocks men for thinking that dating apps are worth their time, while pointing out that there are too many men and not enough women on dating apps, so the whole deck is stacked heavily against them? Sometimes this subreddit feels schizophrenic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:59 AM
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All the studies I've seen show not only are married men happier, but men enjoy marriage more than women. I have doubts about that. From what I've seen, it suffers a lot from the correlation/causation problem. Specifically: perhaps men who are happy are more likely to manage to get married. We know for a fact that middle-class/upper-class men are more likely to get married. Poor men are generally ending up not getting married (either by choice or because women don't want to marry him). It's also …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 05:51 AM
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I have never in my LIFE heard another girl/woman literally say looks don't matter in dating. Ever. You're right that they never explicitly say it. But, women will generally avoid mentioning looks, and will talk about other things - like being funny or whatever. I'm not one of those "Rah! Rah! Women lied to us!" guys. But, it's fairly obvious that women downplay the importance of looks and emphasize other attributes. Heck, I've seen women on PPD say that they would love to date Danny DeVito. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:49 AM
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Honestly don’t get why people whine about this. Go date a woman three times tour body weight if looks don’t matter. I'm confused by this response. Nobody claimed that men don't care about looks, and that's the only situation where "Go date a woman three times [y]our body weight if looks don’t matter" would make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 02:13 AM
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Yes. There's a fuck-ton of studies that show this. Professors rate themselves way above average. Everybody rates their driving ability as well above average, too. Svenson (1981) surveyed 161 students in Sweden and the United States, asking them to compare their driving skills and safety to other people's. For driving skills, 93% of the U.S. sample and 69% of the Swedish sample put themselves in the top 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:14 AM
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How can a girl go from 4 to an 8: She can't. Meanwhile: https://www.cleverly.me/makeup-before-after/ Also, it's always possible to lose weight. Speaking of the reverse: there was a girl I once knew. She was this super cute Brazilian girl. Every guy that met her had a crush on her. She could've easily been a model. A little bit like this. Anyway, I'm a good-looking guy, but I was too intimidated by her to actually ask her out. I didn't see her for a few years, but ran into her randomly. She had g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:09 AM
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I find Adam Driver's character in Star Wars to be whiny and weak. He doesn't even feel like a real villain. It feels like they cast some 8-year old schoolyard bully as the "big bad villain". It's laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 05:02 AM
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Just to be clear: we're all agreeing that women are exaggerating the value of "confidence" even when they routinely tell people that "confidence" is a very important (if not the most important) attribute for a man to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:58 AM
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I agree. I'm better off now than ever, but I'm also shocked at how often I get turned down or treated like "I'm okay for now, but she's looking for someone better". Your comment reminded me of a news story I read a while back where Justin Bieber messaged some gym girl on Instagram because she looked cute. (Correction: He sent a DM to the gym. And, no, she wasn't famous.) Even rando girls can get contacted by celebs. Edit: Found the story - https://www.buzzfeed.com/ikrd/what-do-you-mean
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:40 AM
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So many absurd opinions on PPD. First, while "You should date who you want and not settle for what you don’t want." is technically true, I bet money that people have no problem saying that to women, but a guy with absurd demands would not be treated so kindly. If some loser was holding out for nothing less than some Victoria's Secret model, we'd all be rolling our eyes and talking about how stupid men are and how they are the cause of their own problems. (I wonder if that guy would retort: "Any …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 05:36 AM
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Why would you want to get babies in your 70s? I'm sure he'll have plenty of energy and patience to deal with young children at 70! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:53 PM
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I'm a man, and the terf inside of me is about to wake up. terf = trans-exclusionary radical feminist. Are you sure about that? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TERF
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:50 PM
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Most women in their 30s have there shit together and we want more than just a guy who thinks watching Netflix is a prelude to sex. There is no upside to this for us, no clue why a lot of men can't get that through their head. Just another example of the PPD going to shit. Once people start throwing out made-up allegations, there's no point in debating. If we all want to play this game, then how about if everyone unleash their creativity and make up stupid accusations against the opposite sex. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:49 AM
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To be a 7, or two standard deviations above the mean, you have to be hotter than 97% of everyone. An 8 is 99.7th percentile, or only 3 out of every thousand people. FYI: Most people don't use that weird scale you're using. Other than you, who in the world uses a SMV/RMV scale where increasing one point on the scale is a standard deviation higher? It makes sense why you'd complain - because you're using a totally different definition than everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:35 AM
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Yup. But what do you expect from Lilith? It's strange that we always talk about women and hypergamy, but this post isn't directed at women. Anyway, I think the post is mostly a leading question (like so many on PPD). I don't actually think people are really trying to find their "ideal" or "perfect" lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 04:26 AM
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Then I remembered about a place in the middle East (possibly somewhere else) where a few hundred years ago it was the culture for women to sleep with a ton of men before marriage, The more men she could please the better wife she would make and the more desirable she would be. It definitely wasn't the Middle East. It also seems like a very risky thing to do because - especially before the advent of birth-control - women would get pregnant. And then she'd become a single mother. Who's going to ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:39 PM
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You mean they don't look like winners? http://www.street-certified.com/2015/07/street-stories-these-4-female-prison.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 07:10 AM
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There are as many physical traits for which a man will not forgive a woman as vice-versa. Bow-legged, pear-shaped, flat chested, lantern jawed, thick waisted, too stocky, too tall... While many of those traits will hurt a woman's dating options it will not put her out of the game, despite you thinking they will. Yeah, the top-tier men aren't going to date someone with a lot of those features, but middle-tier and lower-tier men will. Also, I don't know why women think that having a flat chest is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:35 PM
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I bet you $100 that the cute girls still get a lot more attention than the cute guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 02:58 AM
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What? Guys can be mad about being lied to, and also mad about absurdly high demands. You haven't proven anything. This post reads like "You can only be mad at one thing. And the fact that you're also mad about this second thing proves that you can't be mad about this first thing. Checkmate!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:20 AM
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Not the gender ratio, which is overhyped -- there are like 5% more young women Most cities have 10% more young men than women. So, yeah, that is a big difference. Here in Denver, in the 40-44 age range, there are 115 men : 100 women, and it's 107.5 men : 100 women in the 30-something range. https://www.states101.com/gender-ratios/colorado/denver-county Or here's another chart: for unmarried adults, at 25 years-old, it's 118 men : 100 women. The ratio slowly declines to about 107 men : 100 women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:47 AM
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Sure. I know quite a few women who are pushing 40 now - some of them are women that I either dated and they broke up with me, or I asked out, and a few I wasn't interested in. They're pushing 40, they wanted a family, and they never managed to get married because they were always looking for something bigger and better. One of them recently adopted a kid because she wanted a family, but wasn't willing to date a guy in her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:28 AM
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They've been socialized to think and behave this way. I don't believe that. I think that explanation is a cop-out. I think people who do this are just bending over backwards to avoid confrontation, but framing it as "this isn't my fault; it's society's fault".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 06:50 AM
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Like I said, there have been studies, regarding this. I don't believe you. The research on this is all over the place. And also a woman's peripheral vision (women really do check out guys as much as men check out women, they just don't get caught). People's peripheral vision is mostly shit. People aren't checking each other out using peripheral vision. why they are better at spotting guys who lie and also get away with lying more. That's not even true. The research is all over the place. All of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 05:48 AM
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Some women are also pretty terrible at indicating interest or disinterest, and then blame men for not having superpowers of perception to recognize what she's thinking. Speaking of which, I overheard a conversation between three women at a coffeeshop the other day. One was talking about how she went out with this guy, but she wasn't interested in going out again. He asked her out for a second date. She accepted. Then she cancelled on the day they were supposed to go out. She did this twice. At t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 05:26 AM
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Nature is beautiful, like peacocks competing with their tail feathers and rams competing with their horns. Ha ha. The brutality of nature is part of what inspired me to stop believing in a loving, creator God. When you say "nature is beautiful", you're cherry-picking the things you like. Nature is: Male dolphins ganging up on female dolphins to keep them underwater (dolphins breathe air) in order to force her to mate (i.e. rape). Smallpox killing five million people a year (mostly children in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 02:04 AM
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I don't like chasing. I'm sure there are guys who do (and they're probably the kinds of guys who like to get really competitive in sports). Women will sometimes say that men like the chase. Most of the time, I think they are just using that as an excuse to be passive and not do the work of approaching. I also think women enjoy seeing men do the work of approaching because it gives them a feeling that they are special enough for guys to make a big effort for them. When they approach, they lose th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 01:55 AM
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Male. I think I get a small advantage in work (not the 78 cents on the dollar thing - which is mostly attributable to picking different jobs), but I'm talking about when researchers controlled for job choice, education, seniority, etc, there's seems to be roughly a 4% income advantage for men. (Technically, this could be due to other factors correlated with being male - maybe males come-off as more confident, and employers give a little more money to confident people. But, who knows.) Seems like…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 05:48 PM
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It certainly isn't true in most of the country, or even California for that matter. The average Teacher Elementary School salary in Long Beach, CA is $65,339 as of February 26, 2020, but the range typically falls between $53,523 (25th percentile) and $77,498 (75th percentile). [The 90th percentile for Elementary School teachers in Long Beach is $88k.] https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/teacher-elementary-school-salary/long-beach-ca And for the US as a whole, the average salary is $…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 08:08 AM
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Nope, it doesn't. That is the main reason why you all do it. If she stopped having sex with you, you'd bail. What? That logic doesn't even make sense. It just means it's a dealbreaker. If my car didn't have air-conditioning and it couldn't be fixed, I'd sell my car and get a new one. According to your logic, the ONLY reason I have a car is for air-conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:55 AM
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Sounds like a big "moving the goalposts".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:53 AM
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"Why do people call teachers low earning? Every teacher at my elementary school in CA makes over 6 figures, except the 2 brand new ones." What? 2017-18 National Average Starting Teacher Salary: $39,249 Source: http://www.nea.org/home/2017-2018-average-starting-teacher-salary.html Even California teachers don't start with much pay: "California $46,992" Maybe you're out of touch with what people are actually earning. Nurses get paid well too. Depends on the education level of the nurse. There are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:50 AM
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Guy here. No, men don't care that much about status. I have two college degrees and make six-figures. I've had long-term relationships with: a kindergarden teacher, a starbucks barista who became a manager while we were dating (she had no college education), an architect, an ob/gyn, a pharmacy tech who was in school to become a pharmacist, a chef. Do all of those jobs fall in the same class? It doesn't really matter to me what a woman does, as long as it isn't too embarrassing - e.g. if she can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 03:42 AM
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No, because markets vary by geographic location - especially if there's a surplus of men or women in your area. A woman who's a "5" can pull guys who are several steps above her if there's a lack of women in her area.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 07:34 AM
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The person you're responding to is a woman. Women are playing on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 07:30 AM
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Why would I even talk to you? Why are you on reddit? Believe whatever you want. The world you believe is the world you'll act in. If only the world would cooperate with the ideas in our heads. Funny, because lots of women will complain about men being delusional for thinking that an average guy can get a hot girl. So, why isn't he getting her if the world conforms to whatever our beliefs are?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:53 PM
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Dating app studies show that the highest tier men are seen as less attractive than the highest tier women are to men. It's not just about men and how they look/behave. Women might be as thirsty as men if we were talking about a theoretical, fictional superman that cannot possibly exist. No man on the planet reaches that level of attractiveness, though, so it's an impossible goal that cannot possibly be reached for mere mortal men. You're just complaining that men aren't reaching those impossible…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:34 PM
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I agree that OP is exaggerating his point. But, so are you. Do you remember being a horny teenage boy? Women are just as horny. Ha ha. That's funny. All the statistics around sex and masterbation show the same thing: women are less sexual than men are. Women masterbate less often than men. Lesbians have less sex than gay-male or heterosexual couples. Gay men have the most sex (both number of partners and number of times per week). Women love the male body. No, there's been studies about this. St…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 10:29 PM
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No offense, but ... dating apps try to pair you off with people who are roughly as attractive as you are (based on algorithms like Tinder's ELO score). You will literally see different dating options based on how attractive you are. If you're a model-tier man/woman, the dating app will show you model-tier women/men, and the opposite is also true. They do this because - why bother wasting everyone's time by showing model-tier men/women to dorky women/men? I'm not trying to make you feel bad. It m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 08:25 PM
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I somewhat agree, but think you exaggerated in your first paragraph: Most men are more horny than women and have lower bar to have sex. I agree. A man doesn't need to be attracted to you at all to have sex with. Not true at all. Lots of guys have turned down sex with unattractive women. I've had women who were pretty straight forward about wanting sex, and I wasn't attracted enough to them to do it. If I'm not attracted to her, I won't sleep with her. The last thing I need is trouble being sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:27 PM
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It doesn't matter if the majority of men are doing that. If even 5% or 10% of 50-something men are with younger women, it increases the competition for younger women and reduces the competition for older women. Here's a graph to checkout: it a graph of the ratio of male:female unmarried adults by age. You'll notice that for men around age 25, there's 118 unmarried men for every 100 unmarried women. By age 64, it completely reverses: 62 unmarried men for every 100 unmarried women. https://www.pew…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 04:29 AM
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Women talk WAY more about their hookups than men do. In general, I don't even tell my friends what women I slept with. There's a myth that guys engage in "locker room talk" where we talk about women we hooked-up with. That's not true, and I've only seen men do this twice in my entire life (and in neither case was I or any of my friends involved in that talk). Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, I've only seen it once. The other time I was thinking of involved two guy trainers at the gym. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 06:24 PM
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It's funny to see the women in the thread under your comment are so quick to be "yeah, but men go to shit even faster/worse than women". It's like a small version of the mgtow/incel revenge fantasy in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:00 PM
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Tons of people are shaming something about "revenge fantasy"...and then you invent this even more outlandish, silly, fantasy of some global trotting rich hot 40yo woman traveling the world fucking hard body 25yos men.... It's like the inverse of the MGTOW/incel revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:56 PM
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I'm not sure if that's true, or true for women in general. The statistics on singlehood are pretty clear: there are more single men than single women in their 20s (this happens because young women will sometimes marry men who are older, like a 30-something or 40-something divorced man getting a "trophy wife" in her 20s). One you get into your 50s, though, it gets reversed: there's more single women than single men in their 50s (for the same reason). There is most certainly a decline in the amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:47 PM
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I never said it's not slightly skewed, it's just not skewed to the extent of what reddit claims to. "What reddit says it is" is an awfully broad definition. That means that reddit reached a consensus, or that some incel wrote some ludicrous, hyperbolic comment about how college girls are sleeping with a new hot guy every weekend? (I once saw a PPD post which claimed that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:57 PM
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Luckily, in the relationship market, men have a total advantage. No, we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:52 PM
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I think everyone has always acknowledged that the SMP is skewed heavily in favor of women. But, it's also the case that the dating marketplace is ALSO skewed in favor of women. It's not as skewed as the SMP, but it's still skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:49 PM
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Yeah, but you're wrong. You're not wrong about high tier men and average women. You're wrong by putting up that strawman in the first place. The dating/sex marketplace are definitely skewed. It's just not skewed as hard as 9-10 men sleeping with 5-6 women. The problem is women don't want to date men who are actually on their level. A "7" woman doesn't want to date a "7" man. She wants an "8" or "9". She probably knows she's never going to get attention from a "10" man. But, that also leaves guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:48 PM
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Only when it's convenient to pretend it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:07 PM
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Nope. That's not what the study says. And you're misreading those graphs. Additionally, other data shows that women disproportionately like the top guys. On Hinge, the top 10% of men get 58% of the likes from women. The top 10% of women get 45.7% of the likes from men. The bottom 50% of men get 4.3% of the likes from women. The bottom 10% of women get 7.9% of the likes from men. https://qz.com/1051462/these-statistics-show-why-its-so-hard-to-be-an-average-man-on-dating-apps/ For example, while a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:59 PM
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The study also showed women being more willing to message and engage with men they deemed unattractive while men mostly messaged the hottest girls. That's not what the study showed. That was the article-writer editorializing and mangling the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:51 PM
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I agree that she's more attractive than him. I disagree with your general argument because: I don't know what he used to look like. For all I know, he was in better shape and had his hair 8 or 10 years ago when they got married. I also don't know what kind of money he makes. Maybe she married for money. I'd also like to see how they interacted. I always thought the Shae Family (of the "Shaytards") was mismatched in looks, too, but he is a very boisterous guy and I can see why his energy would at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:45 PM
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If I can't afford a car, would standing outside of the dealership complaining about how expensive the cars are and how they won't sell one to me despite being broke get me a car? No. Hypergamy is the equivalent of "greed". People here like to argue that "everybody is hypergamous because everyone wants someone better". But missing SO MUCH nuance. It's the same with greed. Everybody wants more money. In that sense, everybody is greedy. (And greedy rich person might use that argument to distract yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:27 AM
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The constant demonization of female nature while lauding male nature as innocent What? Which planet are you living on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 01:17 AM
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That's not what people say. They say that porn is evil and dehumanizing to women. They don't give some weak argument that "porn can be harmful".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:05 AM
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What makes you think that polygyny is viewed as okay? A lot of women view polygyny as dehumanizing and don't want to share a guy. A lot of guys view polygyny as one guy being greedy and taking more than his share of the scarce and valuable women in the world. The large majority of people don't like the idea of polygyny, just like people don't like when people horde any limited and valuable resource. Edit: Men and women both just kinda see it as the way of things with a big tone of “it is what it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 11:53 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about. I write software. I also took a year off in 2016 and traveled overseas. I had no trouble getting interviews or finding a new job when I got back. Nobody gave a shit about my 1 year gap on my resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:43 AM
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It's the BeggarPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 02:09 AM
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How has it taken so long for someone to come out and say this? You mean: why did it take you so long to setup an alt-account to post this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 02:06 AM
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You get all the upvotes in this thread. Funny enough, I was just telling a (male) friend of mine the other day that our other (female) friend was talking to me at a houseparty a while back. She was asking me all kinds of questions, wanted to really get to know me. After 45 minutes or so, she just wandered off and spent the rest of the party treating me no differently than normal, and hanging out with other people. (No, there was no weird interaction.) It really threw me off because I was convinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:11 PM
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What? Who knew that Lele Pons was a trailblazer. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:09 PM
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Yes. Men are generally funnier than women. I don't know exactly why that's the case. Maybe men have to compete more on personality to get attention? There are a few female comedians I like, but they tend to be lesbians. I suspect it's because, like men, they are competing for female attention. Women don't have to compete as hard for male attention because men want women more than women want men, and beauty (not humor) is the typical way that women compete for men. Also, jokes are a form of risk …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:44 PM
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I find most male humor to be punching down — making fun of people lower than them, mean-spirited put downs of minorities, women, etc. And I think you're making that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:33 PM
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That clip was not funny. I didn't even crack a smile through her whole bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:27 PM
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Women are often shamed for being single parents, for having a lot of sex, for not following certain political views, etc whereas men don’t necessary experience this. I'm not so sure about that. What political views are you talking about? I could imagine women being shamed by other women for voting conservative. But I don't think that's what you're talking about. Men are also shamed for having a lot of sex (and by "a lot of sex" in this context of both men and women, we're talking about a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 09:11 PM
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Yes, although many feminists will be angry with you for working for men's issues because they think women's issues are more important. In their view, spending time on men's issues instead of women's issues is like paying for summer camp for rich kids when you should be feeding starving African children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 08:57 PM
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Not the same thing. Men who turn homicidal are reacting to a whole series of rejections. The latest rejection is just the trigger that sets him off after a long period of rejection from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:00 AM
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Yeah, but incel forums aren't an example of guys facing one rejection. It's the result of feeling like they've been rejected their whole lives by every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:55 AM
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I think men who go homicidal after a rejection is really reacting to a whole series of rejections. Getting one rejection isn't fun, but getting rejected every time you try leads to hopelessness and rage. The latest rejection is just a trigger - i.e. the straw that broke the camel's back.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:52 AM
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I think when men explode with rage, it's because they've faced a while series of rejections one after another. It's not one rejection that makes them angry. It's the pile of rejections, and if a man goes into a rage, it's just the straw that broke the camel's back. For example, it wasn't one rejection that made Elliot Rodger homicidal. It's a feeling that he'd been rejected his whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:47 AM
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That may be true, but it's also likely that those men are staying around for the kids, or maybe their sex drive is starting to dry up with age as well, or maybe they're pessimistic about the effort required or their ability to get a new relationship, or they're just going with the status quo because divorce and the resulting upheaval seems like a lot of trouble. Men under 40 without kids and aren't married are unlikely to accept that arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:57 PM
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around 50 year old when men die like flies. Such ridiculous hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:24 PM
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Getting real tired of these strawman arguments who's sole purpose seems to be to berate men. Were you drunk while posting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:13 PM
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You can give people fake astrology readings and see how much it "matches them". Like when they gave a classroom full of college students a personalized astrology reading, and after most of them thought it did a good job describing them, they revealed that they gave everyone the exact same generic "reading": https://youtu.be/3Dp2Zqk8vHw Of course, people who believe in astrology aren't looking around for information that discredits it. They're looking to astrology for guidance, and discrediting i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:59 PM
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Funny. I once looked through FDS and one woman was advocating doing almost nothing on a date, and said a first date was him auditioning to continue dating you. Of course, FDS is pretty toxic, so it's hardly surprising that those kinds of self serving opinions are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:42 PM
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Yup, the vast majority of guys. I don't know why they're pretending that 90% of guys are extroverted dancing monkeys who get attention in every room they walk into.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:37 PM
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This is really just a gender reversed version of the manic pixie dream girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:34 PM
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Being in a relationship doesn't mean you aren't struggling when you're outside of a relationship, or that you don't have meager options outside of that relationship. I'm convinced that women have the majority of power in the dating and sexual marketplace. Part of that has to do with skewed gender ratios. Part of that has to do with men wanting women more than women want men. I remember being out with this girl a number of years ago. She was a FWB. She started walking up to random guys and tellin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:31 PM
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Oh. Was he a navy seal who graduated top of his class, and was involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and has over 300 confirmed kills?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:40 PM
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Since 97% of the population marry at some point, this comment doesn't seem to be connected with reality. Nah. The trends indicate that about 20-25% of people in the current generation will never have been married by the age of 50. https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-never-married-08/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:51 PM
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That must've been why Stephen Hawking was in a wheelchair. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:23 PM
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While it doesn't include self- employed and farm workers, it's also important to point out that their numbers include full time and part time workers. The majority of full time workers are men. The majority of part time workers are women. By combining full time and part time workers together is the only reason they can say that there are more women than men on payrolls. Also, if you have two part time jobs, you get counted twice. Maybe it's me, but it seems a bit disingenuous to act like a part …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 09:12 PM
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Maybe they don't want to raise their kids alone, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 07:21 AM
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So, let's get this straight: TRP calls women evil. So you show up here (not on the red pill) and declare that men are evil. Then you expect us to accept that as an adequate defense of your position? Give me a break. If that's your logic, it's severely flawed. What you're advocating is a race to the bottom. You believe that you're allowed to call people names because you identified a few men who call women names? Awesome. Let's see where that leads. Let me ask you this: I can find examples of whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 12:11 AM
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So by you, what is the percentage of population living with non biological father ? That's what the 1%-2% number is. It's the percentage of guys who's name is on the birth certificate and erroneously believe that their child is their biological child. The 20-30% number is from paternity labs where men have sent in DNA samples to check if "their child" is actually their child. They are men who already suspicious about the paternity of their child, which is why they're spending time and money to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:29 PM
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Marriage is a way better deal for men. Single men have significantly WORSE outcomes in life than single women. Married men are wealthier, healthier and happier and than single men. Every single time you say this, people respond with the fact that correlation does not equal causation. You never address that, you just ignore it. So here's some food for thought: Do you know that married men are taller than single men? Here's a question: do you think that marriage makes men taller? Of course that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:07 PM
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Sorry, is this "I'm fucking lying" day again? I've seen your history. You claim to be a man. And you claim to be a woman. You claim that you've never downloaded tinder. You claim to be married with two kids. You're just a troll. I’ve gotten zero matches because I’ve never downloaded Tinder because I can always meet women at social events or bars. I’ve never understood why people use it when people are literally everywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:21 AM
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No, it's ridiculous how many women will ghost you. I don't believe it's because he's doing anything wrong. The problem is that he's not doing everything right. It's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:10 AM
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I was sitting next to this woman a few weeks ago at a bar. She was Asian and I'd rate her around a "4". She opened her dating app and started swiping through men. I didn't see her swipe right on a single guy, even though she looked through 30 or 40 profiles. She switched to her matches, and it looked like she had an endless number of matches. It was f***ing ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:03 AM
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Only to make themselves look superior to other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 01:00 AM
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Why are you characterizing finding women that look a certain way to be attractive as entitlement? Because women and feminists like to demonize men, and the "entitled" buzzword is an easy way to do it. Funny enough, the other day, I heard a guy on YouTube say that "women want affection because they're starved for it; men want affection because they think they're entitled to it". Same situation, but framed to make women look like victims and men look like assholes. (Roll eyes)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:12 PM
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I've heard quite a few men talk about how things are easier with foreign women, that even if they make occasional dating mistakes, it's not a problem, but American women will ditch you if you make any mistakes. Maybe part of it is the appeal of a foreign guy with a different accent. Kind of like how American women will melt for Irish or British accents, even if the guy is objectively the same as any American guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:02 PM
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He's a swinger. It's easy when you're in a community of people all trying to sleep around.
/r/seduction24/12/19 05:39 PM
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You're also a swinger. How many of those were just ugly swinger women who are always DTF? I have a friend who's a swinger (judging by your comment in "swingertravel"). He told me he's in the triple digits of sexual partners. He's also fat and kind of abrasive. I'm not impressed because swingers are the easiest of the easy and I know he's banging unattractive women.
/r/seduction24/12/19 05:27 PM
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a significant amount young people have seen their grandparents, parents, aunts, and uncles go through nasty divorces. Quite a few red pillers have gone through nasty divorces themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:54 PM
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Yup. There's way too much "women don't have sex because they were conditioned to believe they're bad if they have it" and not enough acknowledgment of the fact that men who want sex are also vilified. "Men only want one thing" is a criticism of men. We're also told that we're pigs, and constantly told we're wrong. The difference is that men are more likely than women to not give a fuck about condemnation from society, whereas women are more likely to be rule-followers. God help you if you're mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 09:08 AM
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Also not what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 09:01 AM
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BMI is a 200 year old method for determining who's fat based on height versus weight. (We're really going to use a 200 year old system?) Lots of people who know what they're talking about think BMI is stupid. https://amp.businessinsider.com/bmi-is-bogus-best-way-to-tell-if-youre-a-healthy-weight-2016-9 Men have more muscle than women, and muscle contributes to your BMI. So, I don't believe that 70% of men are fat. Maybe 55-60% are, which would put men in the same percentage as women (which is ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 09:06 PM
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The problem I have with the "chadfishing" stuff is that I don't know how many women they talked to before they got a positive response. They want you to believe that 100% of the women responded positively, but for all anyone knows, it was 2%. That's very critical information.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:41 PM
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And the 70% number comes from BMI information? Ha ha. Give me a break. How many times does it have to be said: BMI is a shit way for to determine if people are fat, especially with men. Take a look at these pictures. The guy in the middle is "overweight" because he has a BMI over 25. https://images.app.goo.gl/2aFGPXFDwLPe8xvp8
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:35 PM
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Nope, in this case they're just reporting peer reviewed research. Lol. I've seen plenty of "news articles" that butcher that the research says. Internet "news media" often misreports information and gives it a feminist slant. This has been a replicated and consistent finding as well Then post the actual research articles. Right now, all we have is a dubious news article and promises that the research is out there... somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 08:27 PM
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I'd need to look at the actual research results before taking this seriously. I've seen way too many "news articles" where they screw up the conclusions in order to make a viral news article. Writers usually bias towards validating women, because that's the society we live in. Perhaps women are the more rational sex after all? Those kinds of female ass-kissing statements makes me strongly suspect the writer is a feminist and has a pro-female bias. I hope they fed him a treat for his writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:54 PM
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Tinder is weird, though, because there's more men than women, and quite a few women are only there for validation and Instagram followers. There are some people who did tests, and in terms of getting likes, female models with professional photos absolutely destroy male models with professional pictures. There's a hard skew towards women having it easy. It's not simply your looks. Your gender is also a major factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:39 PM
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I've been there too. There's a weird culture around masculinity there where being hypermasculine (rich, unemotional, confident, look like you work for the mob) is pushed. I assume a lot of those guys are doing the hypermasculine thing and they look like mobsters. I think women there are retarded for being attracted to those cavemen. I once saw a guy get in a girl's face at the gym. He looked like he was berating her and telling her how rich and powerful he was. (Speaking a foreign language, so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 06:15 PM
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Yup. I once heard a woman say that she doesn't bother with Tinder anymore because so many guys are sending her DMs on Instagram. She also said it was dumb that I didn't know women got tons of DMs, as if I'm supposed to be psychic and know how many private messages she receives. (Roll eyes)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 10:18 PM
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No. I approach women all the time. Most of the time, it's a waste of time. Occasionally, I'll get a hit. Most frequently from women in not super into. But there's a lot of time wasters - either she's not into you and you know it, or you get her number or social media and she'll never respond to you, or you'll get one date and she's not interested in a second one, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 10:16 PM
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100 job offers to work on garbage trucks That's a pretty shitty/offensive way to frame it. Maybe you just need a better analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 10:11 PM
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70% of men in the country are overweight while 60% of women are Do you know what the definition of "overweight" is based on? It's based on BMI - which is comparing height and weight (25 - 30 BMI). Do you know that BMI does not distinguish between muscle and fat? And you know that men build muscle more easily that women? There are some men categorized as "overweight" because they have extra muscle. But people act like "overweight" means fat. I'm borderline "overweight" according to my BMI even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 01:04 AM
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No, OP misread the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:11 PM
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No, OP completely misread the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:11 PM
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Are you contractually obligated to post 10 negative things about men each day?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:17 AM
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It's also worth pointing out that a single woman with kids is less appealing to men than a single man with kids (who are probably living with their mom) are to women. Additionally, single women with kids are probably mostly home taking care of their kids, rather than trying to date. A single guy with kids who are living with their mom are very much able to run around on dating apps and bars trying to meet new women. This means that childless men are more directly competing with single dads than …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 12:14 AM
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Because we grew up learning "women address wonderful / girls are made of sugar and spice and everything nice" and "men only want one thing / men are pigs". As a side note, could you imagine the feminist outrage if the "sugar and spice" rhyme had reversed genders?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 05:04 PM
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Yup. I'm a guy, and I appreciate when anyone hits on me, even if I'm not interested. I don't think women realize how little approval or compliments men ever get, and how easy they have it that they consider compliments to be annoying background noise in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 07:05 PM
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Sometimes I really wonder about the people on PPD, because this should be higher up on this thread. It's so obviously true. Sometimes girls will make it really easy for me to sleep with them - sometimes straight up telling me they want to sleep with me or want to go back to my place. Sometimes, it seems like women are going out of their way to avoid putting in any effort into interactions with me. The single most predictive factor in how women behave towards me is how attractive they are relativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 09:27 PM
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That's also dumb, because "would or wouldn't" is dependent on the 1-10 scale. It's like saying "judging someone's likelihood of getting in a car accident on a scale of 1 MPH to 100 MPH is dumb, because all that matters is whether or not you're going to lose control of the car and crash" while ignoring the fact that a car going 100 MPH is more likely to crash.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 08:43 PM
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This just shows that you don't understand what makes a womans pussy wet. That's a cheap shot. The fact of the matter is that he's right. You're also exaggerating when you talk about a 6 consistently getting models. Yeah, good verbal game can get him better results, but the fact that a 6 needs better game than an 8 to get the same results tells you something. Honestly, I'm kind of tired of people pretending that women are virtuous angels who overlook physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 08:32 PM
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There are statistics showing that men masterbate more often than women. I remember one chart that broke it down by age group, gender, and frequency of masterbation. Of 20- somethings, it was something like 30% of males masturbated every day but only 10% of women masturbated everyday. And more women than men masturbated infrequently or never. Edit: Here's a few sources: Regarding the highest-frequency masturbators, 5% of women ages 25-29 engage in solo sessions more than 4 times a week, while 20.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:48 PM
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You just need to do a genetic family tree analysis, probably looking specifically at the Y-chromosome since all men receieved it from their fathers who got it from their fathers father, etc. Then compare it to the Y- chromosomes of other men who are in your family tree. For example, my brother should have the same y-chromosome as I do. And my male cousins who were descended from my dad's brother should also have the exact same y-chromosome that I do. If they don't, then one of the three wives mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:19 PM
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Just because I wanted to verify it, here's a chart showing average age of first marriage in the UK from 1850: https://qz.com/1602272/the-average-age-for-marriage-in-the-uk-is-now-over-30/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 07:07 PM
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Genetic studies have shown that extra-marital paternity was very rare in history. About 1-2%. So, no. People weren't rampantly cheating on their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:55 PM
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Hashtag LetsPretendToBeAVictim
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:53 PM
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I'm not even sure about that. People like to claim that, up until a century ago, parents chose who their kids would marry, but that's simply not true. How far back are you claiming this happened? Are you talking 1000 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 06:51 PM
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It's arguably worse for women since they're more likley to turn to substance or alcohol abuse and that just gives you more issues later on. Not sure what your talking about. Men are more likely than women to have drug or alcohol abuse problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 09:22 PM
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The book "The coddling of the American Mind" makes the case that young women's poor mental state is due to a variety of factors - including social media (which makes them feel inadequate since everyone is posting photoshopped versions of their perfect lives) and being pushed to see threats in everything (including the social justice tendency to see everything as attack against them). A short summary: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coddling_of_the_American_Mind
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 09:17 PM
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I was expecting you to reply with information about whether you were in a conservative or liberal location.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 08:49 PM
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This post title is a bait and switch. You say that women aren't too demanding, and then immediately turn around and make the entire post about Tinder. When men say that women are too demanding, they aren't limiting their opinion to Tinder. Also, according to the source below, not only does Tinder have massively more men than women (by a ratio of 9:1), but even Bumble ("the female friendly" dating app) is only 20% women. I once looked at OkCupid in my area and counted up the number of men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:09 PM
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Probably varies by location. I'd imagine that rural, conservative locations would very much look down on women not having kids. Liberal areas? I know plenty of women who will literally tell you they don't ever want kids, and don't seem the least bit ashamed of it. I know more women than men who are outspoken about never having children. Since men are perpetually accused of "peter pan syndrome", it's less acceptable for men to say that they don't want kids. People will look at you like you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:03 PM
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You don't even have to look very far for women saying stuff like that. Even women on the PPD will mock the idea that muscles attract women. Instead, they'll claim that women like Asian popstars, dad-bods, and you need the right MHC genes so that you smell good to women. It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:59 AM
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Funny, one of my female friends, who was a big feminist, would literally talk about guys being "alpha" and "beta". Not that facts matter here on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 09:29 PM
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So, basically, your argument relies on the idea that the bell curve for men and women is entirely different. I think that's a poor framing of the issue. People should be comparing the 90th percentile male versus the 90th percentile female. When you frame the issue the way you do, you end up comparing an above average woman against a model-tier man, and then using that to conclude that men have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 10:56 PM
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Ah. Sorry dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 10:45 PM
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I find this very hard to believe. I'm a good looking guy, but getting likes/matches isn't that easy, except for getting likes from very unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 10:28 PM
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I think I know who he's talking about. The guy took down all his videos. Last I looked, he had one short video up with just some text saying he'd be back soon, but that was posted a while ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:16 PM
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Yes it is. People often want to lie to themselves and tell themselves they're more attractive than they are. And then, once you realize that, you also start to question your own judgement (which can make you wonder if you're overvaluing yourself). I remember a quote from Denzel Washington where he said that he never watches his own movies because he thinks he looks fake and stiff. If Denzel Washington can question his own acting ability, then people can question their own attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:12 PM
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Of all the PUA shit I've seen the only one I'd trust is this one video series run by a PUA who's a short, balding east Indian man with a thick accent. Ha. I think I saw that guys videos. He didn't do anything special and, based on his interactions, I seriously doubt that he was getting much success. Most of his videos ended with him walking away with the girl (which isn't proof of anything). I remember another pickup guy reviewing his videos and concluding that the guy was lying because his inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 07:08 PM
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I think you have some work to do if you're going to claim that all women make sex toys that don't look like penises. Since you don't actually know which toys were made by which gender, it's an unsubstantiated claim. In other words, it's easy to look at penis shaped and non penis shaped sex toys and then declare (without evidence) that all the penis sex toys were all designed by men and all the non penis shaped ones were designed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 06:59 PM
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I didn't know it was debunked. I thought I remembered reading that the shift in women's preferences around ovulation were pretty minor, though. In general, the media isn't going to tell you that, though, because it doesn't make great headlines. I feel the same about those "women prefer the smell of men with different immune system genes" headlines, too. I think they're largely exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 06:11 PM
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Fathers tend to less caring than mothers and more disciplinarian than mothers. Hence the whole, "You wait until your dad gets home" as a threat that the child is going to get disciplined more harshly by dad. Personally, I've wondered if women like men who are more dominant because that's what their father was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 11:01 PM
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But then I found out about the "women are wonderful" effect, and it makes so much sense now... [But now] they see women the same way that women have been seeing men and other women the whole time. That's strange because the "women are wonderful" effect is actually more strongly held by women than men. And even the wikipedia page says so in the very first paragraph: The phrase was coined by Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic in 1994 after finding that both male and female participants tend to assig…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:37 PM
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I'm not sure how you conflated "burner" and "hippie". There are plenty of burners that aren't hippies, even if they act like they are for a week. Hell, plenty of tech entrepreneurs that aren't hippies that have been to burning man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 09:10 PM
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Or - IMO - shouldn't it be that there's should be mutual attraction between two like-minded and compatible individuals, therefore win each other's over? I think that idea is cute. They's a difference between "how the world should be" and how it actually is given that women have more power in the dating marketplace. The reality is that men still need to win women over because she always has more options and women enjoy the validation of having a guy pursue her. Yeah, it's not fair, but the dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 04:10 AM
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Yeah, i had noticed the comments on that other thread fell mostly in those two camps. I'm kind of in between. There are a lot of frustrations I have with women, because they seem rather privileged (i.e. women have many more options and are more picky than equivalently attractive guys). I'm a good looking guy, and generally people think it should be easy for me, but it's not. It's mostly unattractive women who are interested in me. So, I have "options" but not very good ones. And when I meet wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 09:10 PM
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Yeah, but more men at the bottom, right??? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 01:58 AM
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Strict quotas are illegal, but the courts have been rather inconsistent and it's generally been upheld that you can give extra points to people based on race and sex. For example, if you want more women in a particular job, you can legally setup a system where each candidate is given a certain number of points based on all kinds of different factors (how well they interviewed, etc), and you can give women or racial minorities 10 extra points, which gives them an additional likelihood of having t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 09:57 PM
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Many colleges admit they favor male applicants Your source says that only 18% of colleges give males an advantage. Another article about BYU showed that they gave a bonus to male applicants. How big was that bonus? On a 100 point scale, being male added 1 point. In comparison, the university of Michigan gave a 20 point bonus to racial minorities on a 150 point scale (which would be 13.3 points if we compared that to a 100 point scale). Based on the 18% number and the 1 point bonus out of 100, I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 07:40 PM
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Yeah, I don't know what you mean, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:58 PM
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I think men have to decide themselves into believing a woman is enjoying having a giant penis down their throat choking them until they are in tears and women just enjoy having 7 giant black penises taking turns penetrating them And that kind of porn is rare. Most pornstars don't do that kind of porn, and most men don't watch it. I certainly don't watch it. I kind of hate how people try to use sweeping statements about porn, but then use extreme examples that don't actually apply to the kind of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 09:13 PM
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just being the product of an ideological axe to grind. That's true. Women don't understand how crappy dating is for most men, and when they see single mothers, they probably think "you know, both of these problems (i.e. the problem of guys having crappy dating lives, women being abandoned by those deadbeat guys she got knocked up by) could be solved if she would pick better men (i.e. me). It's a win-win for everyone if she would make better choices". Putting the blame on men for abandoning those…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 05:19 PM
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Maybe it's just not being stated here. I put plenty of blame on men who abandon women. I think there are quite a few men who pump and dump and abandon any kids they might father. Also, general society puts more blame on men than women - hence the term "deadbeat dads".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 05:15 PM
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If you're going to come down on black girls for this, you might as well also point out that black guys also have high STD rates. Generally, about 5x-10x (depending on the STD) the STD rates of white guys. For example, HIV rates are 8x the rate of white guys. https://www.kff.org/hivaids/fact-sheet/black-americans-and-hivaids-the-basics/ Report cards would be bad for everyone who's black.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:18 PM
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I dunno. I've seen some attractive white women with black guys. In more liberal areas (like where I live) it's "cool" and "edgy" and "liberal" to date black guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:12 PM
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I had a office mate in Germany that was in the Army. A black dude. And we'd talk about women with him saying one day "its about time you white dudes started figuring it all out". The problem with this is that the black community is kind of a shit-show. Black dudes have pretty low loyalty to women, and it's resulted in a lot of broken black communities. 70% of black children are born to unwed parents and around 60% of black children don't have their biological dad in the picture. There's super lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 09:09 PM
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Sure they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:52 PM
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In addition to that: if there are plenty of men that need to get weeded out of the gene pool, then we should be weeding women out of the gene pool, too. Forced sterilization? (This is satire, of course, but it's the obvious conclusion if we accept the original argument.) Now I'm thinking of a video I saw a while back - this overweight woman who looked like she belonged on "people of Walmart" says to the camera "I've never been good at anything, but I'm good at having babies" and she's got a bunc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:45 PM
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This post was awarded gold by HL.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:39 PM
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You mean universities, that are also part of the capitalist system? What capitalists did do was make an update for it that slowed it down on purpose so you'd buy a new one. Yeah, that's ALL that capitalists did. Which is why all the best phones came from Cuba, North Korea, and the USSR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 07:22 PM
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Obviously, people need to make better decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:11 AM
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Drop in SMV or RMV? It lowers her SMV somewhat, and lowers her RMV even more. I've never dated a single mom. I don't want to deal with her kids, and I'd like to have kids of my own. The more kids she already has, the fewer kids she'll want to have. If she's got two out three, she probably doesn't want anymore. And I'd be on the hook for all their expenses if we were married. No thanks. I'd think that men with kids would be a little more okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:09 AM
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because it strengthens her faith That's what she tells you and herself anyway. Among some muslims, there's tremendous pressure put on women to dress "conservatively" by their family and their religious leaders. When Muslim women defend it, I see it more as them trying to appease both sides and not get caught in the fight, so they give those kinds of answers. Maybe even a form of Stockholm Syndrome. It's weird how angry feminists get about "men policing women's clothing in schools" but in religio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 04:31 PM
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Wait, how have women attempted to outlaw PUA? Lookup Myles Bonnar. In general, it is considered extremely unseemly for men to try to approach or pickup women. And pickup is automatically treated as "harassment". I would never, ever, ever tell anyone that I'm involved in pickup (except for the guys who are also in it) because I know it's automatically treated as being synonymous with "you're a sleezebag".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 07:06 AM
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But, aren't most men above 6 feet tall? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 07:04 PM
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than the standards are still too high... u just refuse to settle for less How does that make any sense? If someone offered to sell me bottled water for $20, and I say "no way, your price is too high, I'm walking away" how does that imply that my standards are too high?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 06:59 PM
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Keep in mind that the marketplace isn't always "fair". Many people seem to think that "marketplace" automatically implies fairness, and it definitely does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 06:56 PM
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And it's worse than that among the poor. 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers, and the majority of those kids (58%) grow up without their biological dad in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 06:34 PM
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This sub is so incredibly one sided, parroting the same manosphere-centric opinions over and over. You mean like all the posts by HellinicLady? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 04:34 AM
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Meh. When everybody's lying on their resume, it's best to put the best version of yourself forward so that you'll actually get called in got an interview. Same with dating. When everyone's lying/exaggerating who they are, you have to step it up to even get enough interest from the opposite sex to get a date. There are, of course, limits to how far you should push it. I've heard stories about guys who lied about being in medical school or pretended to have a British accent (because women get stup…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 07:14 AM
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You're generally right that the average number of sexual partners for heterosexual men and women will be around the same number (a few things can throw this off, but I doubt those things are going on). I think the truth is in the fact that men exaggerate their number by 3 and women divide it by 3. It's not that bad. Some studies have looked at this and they discovered (using lie detector tests, anonymous surveys, etc) that men are mostly honest about their partner count. Women reduce their partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:51 PM
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No, you've got it wrong. If 20 men (each) sleep with 80 women, then men and women both have an average partner count of 16. Here's the math: 20% of men x 80 women = 0.2 x 80 = 16 partners on average for men. 80% of women x 20 men = 0.8 x 20 = 16 partners of average for women. Men and women will have the same average number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 05:43 PM
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Maybe they tried and became depressed by their lack of success. Reminds me of a conversation I had with a female friend of mine. She's not particularly good looking (a little too much weight) but has a good personality. She was going on tons of dates via dating apps. Like 50 days over the course of one summer. I was talking about how difficult it was for guys on dating apps (and I say that as a guy who does better than the average guy). She said that she looked at the dating profile of a mutual …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:26 PM
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Young women are cheating more than men Young women typically aren't married. I don't understand your point. The statistics for 20-29 year old married women and 20-29 year old married men show women cheating more often on their spouse. What does "young women typically aren't married" have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 04:24 PM
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That's nice in theory. I remember seeing some data from speed dating a while back. After meeting each person, each dater marked whether they liked the other person. If they both liked each other, the organizer gave them each other's contact information. As I recall, on average, men liked 3x as many women as the average woman liked men. This suggests that it's not about "women can't judge pictures".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 05:51 AM
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25 is the new wall according to women who like making things up just to have something to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:29 PM
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Let’s even be generous and extend the age range to women up to 35. You have men in their 20s, 30s, 40s, even 50s, so 3-4 decades of men attempting to pursue a decade and a half of women. Let's not be melodramatic. Yes, men do like women in the 20-35 range, but the vast number of men end up with women who aren't that much younger than themselves. Still, the 20-something and 30-something women are more pursued than any other age group regardless of gender. This does have some effects on the dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:23 PM
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When people say that women want only the top 20% of men, they mean "20% of the men in their own age bracket". 🙄 You're comparing apples and oranges if you're not taking "in their own age bracket" into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:13 PM
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Race is not sex. Stop dragging race in to support your weak arguments. Translation: You can't dispute that you're horribly sexist, so you try using smokescreens to divert the whole argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 05:04 AM
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Says cocksmasher69: Yeah, the depravity of males doesn't surprise me anymore, but it does disappoint. This is why I just don't even believe in their humanity anymore, they don't even believe in it. Yeah, that doesn't sound sexist at all. Other usernames on that sub include: "iheartmanhating". Oh, and this quote from you is nice: The reason why men are they way they are cannot be fixed. The Y chromosome leans toward psychopathy. No amount of socialization and understanding is going to make you le…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:19 AM
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Ted Bundy? Harvey Weinstein? Roman Polanski? R.Kelly? Bill Cosby? Jeffery Epstein? Possibly Bill Clinton? I think it's fairly obvious that those guys had a fetish. I don't believe that Bill Cosby raped women because he couldn't get laid. He raped them because he had some weird power fetish, possibly something to do with getting off on the idea of having sex with an unconscious woman and possibly even into necrophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 05:34 PM
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Those results sound misogynistic. We must ban it from the internet! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:51 PM
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I recently met a woman who claimed to have had over 500 sexual partners: she was not very attractive - not pretty nor in good shape. What? You don't think this woman is a hottie? https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/feb/13/experience-i-slept-with-3000-men-sex-swingers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 08:27 PM
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y'all are the smart ones getting paid to fuck while the dumb bitches do it for free and act as if they're better than you. I think it's pretty clear that prostitutes are also fucking a lot of men that they find repulsive, but do it anyway for the money. At least "dumb bitches who do it for free" generally have some standards on who they're fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:53 PM
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Lol. Please. There are plenty of women that wouldn't be down for Jeremy Meeks. I think you're projecting your own opinions onto a lot of different women. It sounds like the "typical mind" fallacy - where people assume other people think and feel the same as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:43 PM
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Hawaii was a matriarchal society? The king had lots of wives - Kamehameha has between 20 and 30 wives. And there was a very clear separation of what men and women were allowed to do and even what things men and women were allowed to eat. https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/Ancient-Hawaiian-Kapu
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 05:22 PM
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6749 Black Male Homicide Victims/ Population of ~22 Million = 306 murders per 100k Pretty sure you're missing a decimal point there -- 6749/220 = 30.6 murders per 100k. 1126 Black Female Homicide Victims/ Population of ~22 Million = 51.2 murders per 100k. And missing a decimal there, too. 1126/220 = 5.12 murders per 100k. Hm, even your calculations for white men is off. 4665/980 = 4.76 murders per 100k, not 5.1 murders per 100k. And for completeness: white women = 1906/980 = 1.94 murders per 100…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:16 PM
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Sounds like she experimented, got it out her system and is fine with basic sex. I don't know where the "got it out of her system" came from. For all we know, you could've written: "Sounds like she experimented, and is fine with basic sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:11 PM
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Not necessarily true. Men leave biological fluid inside her, which increases the chances of infection. This is also why men who are bottoms are at higher risk of STDs than men who are tops.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 09:07 PM
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I think it’s actually cause our urethra is shorter No, it's not. It's because men leave semen behind in her reproductive tract, and that increases the chances of infection. On a similar note, men who are bottoms are more likely to get an STD than men who are tops. I know this because I've seen research on HIV transmission rates. Researchers have managed to calculate the risk of infection based on the types of sexual interaction (e.g. oral sex, anal sex, giving/receiving, etc). STDs only transfer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 09:05 PM
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Who knew that voting and working were part of the sexual revolution. TIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 08:58 PM
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I think you mean pickup wanna-bes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 08:41 PM
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If men are the gatekeepers of commitment, then why do women initiate 70% of divorces? Women are in control of both. It's just that women are less in control of commitment than they are of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 06:05 PM
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Yup. Women are allowed to complain. If men find something unfair, they either don't complain (and then people conclude that men must have it pretty well, since they can't complain about anything), or they do complain (and are labeled weak, unattractive, and feminine). Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 06:03 PM
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It's more of a metaphor. Women are allowed to complain. Men aren't, or else they're labeled "feminine".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:59 PM
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Yes, attractiveness can open more doors. But, no, men and women are not on an even playing field. Women absolutely have a gender-based advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 08:32 PM
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There was a group of guys at my school who had women buy them groceries, cook for them, clean their apartment and have sex with them, despite them not being in a monogamous relationship with any of the girls or offering any consistent emotional connection to any of the girls I don't believe you. I've never seen that ever. I have seen women (that I know personally) milk men for money. Go onto sn't sugar babies website and over 95% of the potential sugar babies will be women because men can use th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 07:33 PM
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No. You're in denial. Being female is most definitely a major part of what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 07:24 PM
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Those privileges are only afforded to pretty women. It’s also not female exclusive if you’re a very good looking guy you’ll have the same privileges. No, it isn't. Let's not pretend like hot guys and hot girls anywhere close to having the same privilege. Additionally, there are a lot more women than men that get categorized as "hot". I've seen the way attractive women get treated. There is no corresponding treatment for men. It sounds to me like you're trying to pretend that it's not a male/ fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 07:22 PM
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It's not that giving out information is on par with cheating. It's that she's setting things up so he can attempt to seduce her, and she's giving him am opening for that. It shows her intention. Of course, you also have to take into account that sometimes women will give out fake information to a guy because she's too passive give him a direct "no". Or she might ignore him later when he attempts to contact her. But, you kind kind of judge her interest level by how she acts. It obviously works be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 07:23 PM
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I've heard of women who like when men fight over them. In their minds, it means they're valuable enough to fight over, and their man is "passionate" enough about her to risk a fight. It becomes an ego trip for some women. I think that thought pattern is kind of psycho, but women might frame it differently. I've seen women say this both on reddit and in an article I read a while back that a woman wrote about her love/hate relationship with Russian men: https://www.salon.com/2013/08/12/i_love_and_…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 05:04 PM
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I don't know. The fact that he hits on someone I'm dating is par for the course. Women get a lot of attention - to the point of being extremely over-privileged. I don't feel the need to step in unless he's being overly aggressive and making her uncomfortable. But, I also expect her to brush him off. If she doesn't, it tells me a lot about her and what she's doing when I'm not around. In fact, I kind of prefer to see how she acts when she thinks I'm not looking, so I know how she behaves around o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 04:58 PM
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I agree with that. The whole "men have always been willing to fuck anything" thing sounded like it was maligning all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:56 AM
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Hey, at least men have kept their baby and unborn baby kill count lower than women's. If you don't count all the men dropping bombs on kids, sure. Uh, what? While I don't agree with the guy counting abortion as killing kids, if you did count them as the same thing, abortion is WAY bigger than kids killed by bombs. From the CDC (which is just the US statistics): Between 1970 and 2015, CDC reported nearly 45.7 million legal induced abortions. That's an average of a million abortions a year (roughl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:52 AM
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men have always been willing to fuck anything I suppose it depends on what you mean when you say "men". If you mean there are some men who are willing to fuck anything, then yes. If you mean all/most men are willing to fuck anything, then "no". I've turned down plenty of women who made it very clear they were trying to have sex with me - and they were more attractive than some 80 year-old grandma.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:43 AM
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No, not gay and straight, male and female sexuality. Not sure why you said "No". That's what he was saying. To make his comment more clear: Yes there are big similarities between gay [male] and straight [male] sexual characteristics, only difference is that one is attracted to men, the other to women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:39 AM
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In what way is marriage "big brother's stamp of approval"? You make it sound like the government is showing up and making judgments: "yeah, this is a good relationship." or "no, this one isn't good". There is no "stamp of approval" going on AT ALL.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 05:40 PM
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The "Benevolent Uncle" theory suggests that homosexual males could be a response to an abundance of fertile males in the group. The gays are a good way to keep males around to help provide resources and protect the young, but without any drive to reproduce on their own. If that were true, then men being gay should be a response to a large number of siblings, rather than a response to a large number of older brothers specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 05:25 PM
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Maybe he grew up being subservient to older males around his age (i.e. his older brothers). Maybe he had to adopt "feminine" styles to get what he wanted (he was physically weaker and had to rely on external authority - i.e. his parents - to settle disputes in his favor).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:38 PM
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rapists frequently get less time than people with marijuana violations Need a citation here. I remember looking this up a while back, and the average sentence for a rapist was almost 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 11:39 PM
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What I find most interesting about the comments in this thread: The number of men agreeing with things being shitty, even if they get occasional successes. Of course, because of the whole "if you look like you're hungry, you'll starve" thing, many men won't admit it in real life. The number of women in this thread being dismissive and blaming men by implying they're incels or using insults will to "make the problem go away" by shooting the messenger in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:27 PM
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I'd say he's slightly above average for his age group. (But above average for all age groups because most people get uglier as they age.) People underestimate the number of ugly people out there. Just look at a yearbook sometime. There are plenty of goofy looking people. And, second, I think photofeeler is composed of grandmas telling kids "how handsome they are". Just kidding. I actually think it's a lot of people who don't want to disappoint other people, so they are charitable with their esti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 08:41 PM
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Yeah, that ain't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 08:38 PM
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Nah. If you're promiscuous and rich, it's not romanticized. At best, you can say that rich women tend to get with better men (i.e. educated, wealthy, good looking, desirable). Whereas LC women get with trashy guys (poor education, bad habits, few prospects in life, often unemployed, mouthy and embittered, unlikely to stick around if she gets pregnant, more likely to commit crime and get thrown in jail). These are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 06:26 AM
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His argument was that women abandon marriages more often. Your counterpoint was that women were leaving marriages because the men cheated, so the women were not "abandoning" the marriage. By saying that women and men cheat at the same rate, you're admitting that male cheating isn't the reason for women filing for divorce more often (i.e. if men and women cheat at the same rate, then it can't be the cause of higher female-initiated divorces unless men are more likely to stay with a cheating spous…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:02 PM
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For some reason, your comment is reminding me of a youtube video I saw a while back. Lookup "marrying medusa". You might relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 06:35 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about. I'm straight. I have plenty of gay friends. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're attracted to me or want to get with me. I have plenty of female friends, too. I'm not worried that they want to get with me, and they're not worried I want to get with them. Also, see my other comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cqb9ei/the_same_way_some_straight_men_feel_about_having/ewvb52s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:13 PM
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I don't know what that post was supposed to prove. I agree with the top reply in that thread: I've been to gay bars. I kind of liked actually getting attention instead of having to work for every scrap of attention women give to me. I'd have a different guy coming up every 20 minutes wanting to buy me a drink or chat me up. I felt kind of bad because I couldn't give them what they were looking for, but it was actually nice to get free attention without having to work for it for once. Dealing wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 05:09 PM
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the rate of women committing infidelity is increasing to be near the same as men, not more than... That kind of shoots your argument in the foot, though, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:03 PM
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"MEN ARE EVIL HORRIBLE PIGS. I HATE THEM!!" Reminds me of some things I've seen women post on Facebook lately. Of course, when women do it, the interpretation is that men are terrible and deserve criticism. When men say that same stuff about women, they are labeled misogynists and bitter. In either case, the male is at fault. Not that I'm trying to justify saying bad things about women (that's not my goal) - just pointing out that women seem to have free reign to say bad things about the opposit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 04:00 PM
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Men, this feels like something that's very dependent on the particular man and woman. (Maybe it's different in Greece, if course. I'm assuming you're Greek based on your username.) There are men who are lazy slobs. And there are also guys who clean up after themselves but have a neurotic wife who makes too many demands. I can't say which is which without looking at a particular couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 05:48 AM
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I'm confused by your claim that it's similar to men's behavior in the job market. Do you think that men act differently than women in the job market? Or were you just saying "people's behavior in the job market"? Also, what job candidates act like that? Do you string potential employers along? Do you jump jobs? My employment history has pretty much been 2-4 years at each job. I don't leave jobs because something better comes along; I mostly ignore new job options. One thing I've seen with young …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 05:28 AM
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People don't "need" a common enemy, but it generally helps foster friendship. I'm sure you can find all kinds of examples of this happening throughout history. Heck, one example is that European countries were always going to war with each other until recent times, when external rivals became bigger than their internal rivalries.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 07:06 PM
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I also have a hard time figuring out how it would be random people (would they randomly pick people on the street?) And it's not just producers picking people who would be interesting, but the kinds of people who show up at these casting calls is also non-random. So, producers can't pick a random sample of the population even if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:54 PM
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in societies where women have more power and control, they are much more promiscuous When comparing, say, Sweden to Saudi Arabia, yeah. But women in Sweden or anywhere else don't approach anything close to the number if sexual partners of gay men. Even in the homosexually-repressive past, gay men had way more sexual partners than women anywhere in the world today. So, no, you're wrong in saying it's all about slut shaming or anything like that. For some perspective, consider the survey of gay me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 09:02 PM
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billie eilish Kinda like boy bands?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:10 PM
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I can't believe in the era of Trump there are people still trying to say that men are not followers. I don't know how that argument is supposed to work. It seems like a lot of people like trump because he "tells it like it is" and "doesn't mute it because people don't like it". A lot of men feel the same way - don't want to mute it to appease the left. Of course iconoclasts are going to support iconoclasts. What's their other option? Support the people who want to shame them for saying what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 07:01 PM
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Nah, see - of the PPD's 26,000 subscribers, there was some rando who said all women live Instagram lives, and that means that most dudes believe it. It makes sense. /s I don't know why all these men are believing sweeping generalizations about women's lives. I'm just glad that OP isn't making sweeping generalizations about what men believe. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 06:05 PM
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Well... let's be honest. Most women didn't do anything to get their advantages, and most women will complain about stuff and not do anything about it. You talk as if women were somehow doing stuff to make it happen, when the reality is that at least 95% of them were bystanders watching it happen. At most, they were paying lip service. In that sense, men complaining about not getting stuff (while also not doing anything about it) and women complaining about not getting stuff (while also not doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 12:50 AM
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Every time I visit San Francisco, I'm kind of amazed by how few attractive women there are. I don't know if it has something to do with them being very liberal, and completely rejecting female beauty standards (i.e being fit, not being hairy, etc) - like they're fighting the patriarchy or something by being fat and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 08:52 PM
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A lot better for women. I know quite a few unattractive women who have quite a bit of success on dating apps. One of my female friends once looked at the tinder profile and matches of a male friend of mine. She admitted that the whole thing was depressing. She was overweight, but had tons of matches and dates. Women are playing on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 08:54 PM
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What makes toy think she sold 25,000 of them? She posted a picture the other day of the bottles, and there were only about 100 of them with the caption "and this isn't all of them". My guess is that she sold maybe double that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:28 AM
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I find it kind of obnoxious. It's an example of female privilege. Women (or probably more accurately, young women) have the upper hand in the sexual/relationship marketplace. I think sex work is generally a bad thing for society because it's non-productive and takes advantage of the altered state of mind that sexually excited men exist in. It's also too easy - like stealing. At least her looks will only last for so long. The remedy is to shame men who spend money on this nonsense and shame the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:21 AM
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The data in the study showed that men were twice as likely to be online daters as women. I'm guessing men are overrepresented almost everywhere in online dating. I also know OkCupid in my area has more than twice as many men as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:46 PM
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I don't know about that. I've seen some jacked black guys do well with online dating, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:42 PM
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There's less pressure on a white male to juice or do this because they have an advantage, statistically Yeah, I don't buy that. I understand that Asian dudes are going to have trouble. Black guys? They're polarizing. Some women are going to say "no way", but some women are going to say "yeah, I'm into that." I do think women who are into black guys tend to be into the jacked black guys, though, and that can make it more important for black guys to play into that stereotype/fetish of being the ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 10:39 PM
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Just a couple of random comments: it wouldn't surprise me if things like laxative use and bulemia were more common in the gay online dating community. I've heard that anorexia is more common among young gay men. The percentage of men who said they were gay was only around 10% of the same, though, so they couldn't have a huge effect on the numbers. Also, this stood out: Among women, the majority were non-dating app users (83.3%, n = 915), white (68.6%, n = 753), between ages 18 and 30 years (55.8…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:49 PM
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I don't know about that. I don't know that many people who juice, but I know a Hispanic guy who definitely juices (his ex girlfriend confirmed it), and judging from the size of some of the black guys at my gym, I'd bet money they are juicing, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:24 PM
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So, basically, women should always be cockblocking their friends "just to be safe"? Sounds like a terrible way to live. "Honey, you should never get a driver's license, because you might get in a car accident. It's just not worth the risk."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 07:29 PM
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I don't believe that's what's going on. I see a lot of different people of all different weights having dating problems. I think it's more complicated than that, and think there's a whole variety of factors. I won't go into all of them but, here's some of them that I think play a role: Mass media shows us a lot of beautiful, smart, witty, funny people (many of whom are merely reading lines written by a team of writers to make them seem smarter and funnier), which causes people to become less sat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:13 PM
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Depends on the cause of the "overweight" BMI. You can be muscular and have a very low body fat percentage, and still be classified as "overweight" according to your BMI. My BMI is around 25 (which is borderline "overweight"), but I also have a visible six pack. All body builders are all categorized as "overweight" or "obese" according to their BMI. I don't believe that men are any more fat than women are, and are probably a little less fat than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 05:08 PM
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No, BMI is more inaccurate for men because men have a higher amount of muscle than women do. For example, if they found that 30% of men and 30% of women were "overweight" according to their BMI, you can bet that the percentage of bodyweight that's fat is higher among women, since men's additional muscle is pushing them into the "overweight" category despite having a lower fat percentage. BMI comparisons over time could be inaccurate if the population was increasing their muscle mass (e.g if weig…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 05:01 PM
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Biggest example: women like K-pop stars. Do not sit here and tell me that K pop stars are masculine Girls like kpop stars. I doubt women do. It's well known that preteen girls like boys who, by older male standards, are kind of effeminate. But boys in that age group are kind of effeminate, in general. By boy standards, they are reasonably okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 07:39 PM
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Reading fiction, etc. are not feminine, they are gender-neutral. No. It's more complicated than that. There are certain kinds of books that are more feminine reading and certain kinds of books that are more masculine reading, just like there are girly TV shows/movies and there are "guy" TV shows/movies. Feminine reading is mostly fiction: romance novels, books involving complicated social interactions and feelings, relationship books (in the non fiction category). Masculine books lean more towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 07:05 AM
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This whole meme about women getting dick pics from 90%+ of men needs to die. It's not true. I think some women take the worst 20% off their interactions with men and pretend that it's 100% of their experiences with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 06:48 AM
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The links work for me. Maybe try a different browser or app.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 08:52 PM
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Yeah, that's the joke because everyone immediately assumes "it's sex" and then they turn it around and say something unexpected, like "pay off their student loans".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 04:50 AM
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I was thinking about the same bit. Here's the video: https://youtu.be/b4hNaFkbZYU
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:14 PM
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While I don't entirely agree with you, what do you expect? Lots of commenters here are trying to put women's actions in the most positive and justifiable light. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FemaleAngelMaleDemon
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 08:33 PM
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This is written from the perspective of trying to justify women's actions. This is actually very common in society, which is why some people say that we live in a gynocentric society. Women's actions are interpreted in the most favorable light, whereas men's actions are interpreted in a negative light. This, of course, is part of the "women are wonderful" effect. For example, you say: ready to move on from a bad relationship faster. Since we all agree that "bad relationships" should be ended, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 08:22 PM
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Who is voting this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 08:00 PM
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any fool who looks at our society objectively would figure out fast that men are more privileged. I can't help but noticed that you stated that in a very general way. In my opinion, there are certain advantages that men have in life, but when it comes to dating and sex in particular, women are definitely the privileged gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:16 PM
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Because women are more likely to complain about relationship problems, whereas men are more likely to suffer "in quiet desperation". Same reason men are less likely to go to the doctor. Same reason men are less likely to seek out therapists for emotional/psychological issues. Same reason women are to talk about social thoughts as a cry for help, whereas men are much more likely to actually commit suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:10 PM
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Wrong on both accounts. First wrong because if an average guy had to ask out 100 women to get "a hottie" and a hot guy has to ask out 1 woman, then looks do matter. And second - I don't think the average guy would actually get the hot girl after asking or 100 women. He'd be widely ridiculed for not understanding his league and demoralized by his constant, massive failure. He'd either become bitter or suck it up and go after less attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:00 PM
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Yup. Bill Gates Gates given a 1 million dollar trust fund by his grandpa (the owner of Seattle's first and biggest bank) on the day he was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:56 PM
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I remember that article. He went out of his way to avoid looking homeless, and said that's what he was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 08:42 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you directly, but think there's some complications to this narrative: It's more common for men to want sex and the woman to want long term commitment than vice versa (i.e. for women to want sex while the man wants commitment). It's obviously a lot easier to waste someone's time if you're the one looking for sex rather than commitment. Also, didn't we just have a thread which involving women's unusual taste in men? In it, someine was talking about how Adam Driver's charac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:38 PM
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I'd say it's a little more complicated than that - often there are spheres of control in relationships. I've said for a long time that, despite the claims of feminists that women were always oppressed, that women often had more control over decisions about the children, family, the home (as illustrated by how much of the home women control shown via the interior design decisions; men being relegated to the garage or (if he's lucky) a man cave) and spending than men did/do and that it's true even…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:55 PM
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Agreed. I'm just surprised that BD is using the "They aren't blaming men. They are blaming society, and women are a part of society." argument. Usually when this argument happens, they blame it on men via "the patriarchy". (Read: it's all men's fault and the only way to fix it is for men to give women more power.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:18 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. "Dirty Mexicans" most certainly suggests that Mexicans (as a general rule) are dirty. And when you take into account the attitudes of people who use the term "dirty mexican" or "toxic masculinity", you can infer that they're trying to make sweeping statements about a whole group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:12 PM
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I think his point is that labeling any positive trait as masculine is inherently sexist because it suggests that women shouldn't or don't have those positive traits. Hence, there is an attempt to remove the association of "masculinity" with any positive trait. Example: the whole "strong is the new sexy" campaign for girls. The goal is to remove "strong" from the "masculine" category and simply make it a "positive attribute" rather than a "masculine attribute". I'm sure lots of feminists would re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:06 PM
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Same thing I said to the previous commenter: if that's your attitude, then you deserve to get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:14 PM
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Lol. If that's your attitude, you deserve to get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:10 PM
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body count of 100+ It's still pretty uncommon. Other than gay men, I don't know anyone with a lay count that high. Of course, it's been like that for gay men for a long time. In the 1970s, Kinsey did a study of gay men in San Francisco, and 75% of the men he surveyed had a triple digit or quadruple digit lay count. most everyone over 30 has a FWB/FB while they are looking for a relationship Nah, that's not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 10:06 PM
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It's because the are only so many people out there. If 30% off women are sluts, but only 5% of men are willing to date/ marry them, it's a big problem for them. Same for short guys. The whole "there's someone for everyone" is bullshit, and people's ability to get what they want in life depends a lot of the availability of partners who are into them and how much they have to compete with others for a scarce resource (i.e. men and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 06:18 AM
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"Common knowledge" More like "this was what I was led to believe, and never bothered to ask for evidence". Courtship in the 1700s: Young white women approached courtship and marriage differently. After completing their domestic training, they enjoyed late adolescence as a special phase of life. Since were not yet responsible for running a household or raising children, women had more freedom during these years than they would ever have again. Courting gave women power; it was their decision whet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:44 PM
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First: The body of the post about internment camps is a dumb point (you can be opposed to a culture or ideology, and still hate mistreatment of people), so I'll ignore it. Second: A lot of these comments are about feminism being about Western issues. That's also false. There's plenty of concern for women in the third world in certain circumstances. Remember when all those girls got kidnapped in Nigeria, and the "bring back our girls" thing? The right answer is this: feminists divide the world in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:50 PM
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You mean they're equally attractive to a nonsexual robot AI?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:29 AM
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"I'm trying to nut inside you" will almost always be more successful than "hi beautiful xx was wondering if ur down to trade pics pls". Honestly, I think both of those approaches are pretty terrible and would almost always fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 02:26 AM
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I'd bet money that men get much more criticism in mainstream society than women do. Men who complain about women are often told that they're bitter, incel, and/or misogynists. Yeah, women get criticized, but only in non- mainstream corners of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 06:11 PM
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One day, one user claims that 80% of men are incels, and you're exaggerating it into "the sub takes it seriously". Sounds to me like everybody's got a whole lot exaggerating going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:47 PM
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Calling him a POS is not the same thing as saying nothing. Further: lots of men PAY for sex. I can't imagine anything so devalidating as paying for sex. It makes you ask the question "this woman wouldn't sleep with me unless I paid her money to". Some of these prostitutes are ugly as sin, but still get paid for it. Obviously, I wouldn't do it - mostly because I have too much pride, but there are plenty of men that would. I think you misunderstand the male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 07:48 PM
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No woman has ever said she wants a spineless man. Groce. Spineless and NICE are not equivalent. You are the only one implying that spineless and nice are the same, and then arguing against yourself by saying they aren't the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 05:21 AM
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While "avoiding being creepy and desperate" are good advice, it's easier to do this as a woman because women can take a passive role in dating. Men have to be both proactive and not come off as creepy and desperate. It's a little harder to get the right balance of being proactive but not over the line. To use a racing analogy: women can just take their foot off the gas and they'll do okay. Men who take their foot off the gas will lose the race, but if they press the gas too hard, they'll never m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 08:42 PM
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Your explanation is a totally different one from eartherry. It behooves women to weed out the shittier men because they’re shitty company, and it sucks to be in a relationship with someone when you can’t even enjoy being around them. That's not an explanation because it doesn't explain why men and women are different in this regard. In other words, I could repeat what you said and flip the genders: It behooves men to weed out the shittier women because they’re shitty company, and it sucks to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 06:57 AM
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Lookup statistics on masterbation. It shows that men masterbate much more frequently than women. If I remember right, in their 20s, something like 30-40% of men masterbate everyday. For women the same age, it's more like 10%. The same pattern happens at all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:14 PM
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95% of women are unaware of the fact that STDs are easier for women to contract, so that can't be the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:11 PM
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It's our job to weed out the genetically fit from the unfit. No, it's not your job to weed out the genetically unfit. Evolutionarily, everyone had precisely one job: get your genes into the subsequent generations, preferably with the best mates (because that helps your own genes spread). Everyone is acting solely in their genes self interest, not in the interest of the species. It's not an altruistic act.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:01 PM
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No. I've seen the numbers from liberal countries like Scandinavia. It's not that different from the US. Gay men have a lot more sex than straight women everywhere in the world. It's not even close. I don't believe the socialization argument. Yes, socialization can reduce women having sex to some degree, but in the context of the Western world, I think it's only a minor factor in reducing how much women have sex. In other words, if we were suddenly transported to a world with no differences in ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:46 PM
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That's not an explanation. All it says is that women don't initiate. That doesn't explain why women say "no" so often. Gay men have a lot more sex than women, even if they don't initiate, because men are saying "yes" to sex more often than women are. (There are plenty of studies showing that gay men have sex more frequently and with more partners than anyone else.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:39 PM
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I think a big part of it is also the fact that some minority (on both sides) say exaggerated, ridiculous things that gets everyone on the other side riled up, which prevents empathy and gets everyone into a combative mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:08 PM
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You sound like a friend of mine. He's a short guy that's kind of high energy and sleeps around a bit. He pretty much only sleeps with overweight women, though. Like Larry Bird, he hits a lot of "3"s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:41 PM
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Studies have shown that average intelligence people do the best in the sexual marketplace. Men and women with low or high IQs have worse luck at dating and lose their virginity later than anyone else. At the extreme end of it, look up the rates of virginity at Ivy league schools. It's far higher than virginity rates of people at state schools or who only graduated high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:05 PM
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Nah, if anything ugly guys are more likely to cheat as soon as some woman bats her eyelashes at him because he isn't used to the attention. Attractive men turn down women all the time though. There are so many assumptions built into that statement that it's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:57 PM
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That's not an option. If a guy walks into a room and there are 10 women, and no women in that room are willing to date him, he has zero options, not 10 options. Further, if one woman is willing to date him, he only had one option but he might not even know that he has any options. Women are generally more aware of their options than men, which is a huge advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:53 PM
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Men hit on the hottest option first and work their way down until one is willing to touch his peen. That's not the way it works - at all. https://i.imgur.com/CDqD1KV_d.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:50 PM
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Sorry. He's right. STEM is notorious for having lots of guys who do poorly with women. In general, I avoid telling women that I work in STEM because I know the (very real) stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 02:31 AM
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Funny, a few weeks ago I went on a date with this woman. She was attractive and smart, but kind of hyper and sometimes difficult to talk to. She also made hints about going back to my place. She says, "I'm not going to sleep with you because I actually respect you." In other words, if I had been a worse prospect for dating, she might've gone back with me. I couldn't help but think "Do you have any idea what kind of perverse incentives that creates for men?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 09:01 PM
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Being a model doesn't necessarily mean you're "attractive" by women's definition. If you're nervous, awkward, weird, or stupid, but good looking, you might make it as a model, but be categorized as "unattractive" by a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 08:55 PM
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First, show that women actually prefer "dad bods" (as in, there are actually enough women who think this way that men would see their dating options improve). Yeah, there are men who are chubby chasers, too. Don't get it all mixed up and think the existence of men saying "I like fat women" means that being fat is a good move for women's dating life. The preferences of a small minority is irrelevant. "... shows that it's impossible to take any claims TRPers make about women seriously" Over reachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:15 PM
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I think that's a picture of a woman freaking out because her boyfriend or husband was looking at porn. Some women get super jealous and insecure about porn. Examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=porn+is+cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 08:41 PM
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Or in hostage situations, they negotiate for the release of women and children first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 08:37 PM
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Lots of guys messaging, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 07:30 PM
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Those videos are bullshit because all they do is show women sticking around. My guess is that they were too polite to leave. But I'd bet money he got nowhere with those women ("sorry, just not feeling it. We can be friends.") I'm a guy, and I've been in situations where the woman showed up looking quite a bit worse than her pictures. I was polite and didn't leave, but only because I'm too polite. There was zero chance of anything happening, though. That's all those women are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 07:27 PM
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First of all, we're not JUST talking about having sex. (You threw in the "casual sex" part as part of a goalpost moving strategy because it's an easier point to defend.) It's way easier for women to find men who like them and want to date them than it is for men. Plenty of information supports this fact. For example: "On Hinge, men send a first like more than three times as often as women. But more than that, when women do initiate, they tend to do so on a smaller segment of the male population.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 07:20 PM
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While you're exaggerating, your general point is true: it's way easier for women than men. Many women seem to have a problem admitting this, especially if they are feminists, because they're used to seeing women as oppressed victims rather than privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 02:57 PM
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Intersectional feminists like to talk about how terrible white men are for dating Asian women, but don't criticize women's choices in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:35 PM
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I can't figure out your comment. It looks to me like you're agreeing with OP, but your comment starts with "That's not true at all."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:27 PM
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I've seen some very convincing MtF and FtM transsexuals. Many of them can't really pass, but some can. Further, it's obvious that people are friendlier to women than men. Not sure if you're denying it. Men who play female avatars in MMOs report the same thing because people assume they're women - more friendliness and lots of free stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 06:35 PM
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Thanks for posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 04:57 PM
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I've NEVER sent a dick pic in my entire life, but jokers on the internet want to pretend like every guy is doing this. It's absurd. Dating for men is hard even when we're doing nothing stupid. When people harp on stuff like this, they're coming up with convenient ways to blame men which allows them to avoid taking a look at the awful things that women do to destroy relationships or maintain absurdly high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 03:44 PM
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Links? I have Facebook, and I see a fair amount of right wingers post stuff about (to paraphrase) being "backed into a corner by the left and forced to attack". (Which reminds me of abusers tactic of "I wouldn't have hit you if you hadn't made me do it" nonsense to justify violence.) I'd also be curious to find out if there are Russian or right wing trolls calling for civil war as a false flag (i.e. pretending to be left wing and making calls for violence in order to radicalize the right wing). …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 08:33 PM
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advertisers don't want a bad image for selling to the wrong crowd. I don't believe banning the subreddit has to do with advertisers. More say they hear about it and get upset that there's something existing that doesn't align with their political views. Yes, it has more to do with people not liking their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 08:18 PM
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I sort of agree with some of what you said, but... Women value youth and aesthetic-ness just as much as men do. The part about women valuing youth as much as men is lol. There's plenty of data to refute that. A few: https://jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-are-20-21-22-and-23-a-data-dive-1731660984 In surveys of men and women, "youth" comes up as one of the top three traits men look for in women, but it's never ranked that highly by women. And when you look at polygamous situations, it's mostly ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 08:07 PM
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To add to your list: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Lift-More-Weights-Get-More-Mates-8069?RelNum=8069
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 05:19 PM
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First, it's hard to even read that chart and come to a conclusion because you have to compare the ratio of a man's attractiveness to his number of messages and then do the same thing for women, and then compare the numbers against each other. It's basically indecipherable for the purpose that you're trying to use it for. (For example, if 2% off men are "hot" and they receieve 10% of all messages that's a ratio of 5. If 10% of women are "hot" and they receieve 50% of all messages, that's also a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 08:03 PM
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There's plenty of survey data on male masturbation habits online. Are you trying to figure out the data specifically for PPD users, or merely males in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 08:48 PM
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What are you taking about? You know that Jezebel is a website, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 05:38 PM
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They look stupid together. It looks like she lost a bet or is playing an April Fools Day joke on everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 05:28 PM
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I don't know why this is a question for all, as opposed to a question for men. Personally, I don't find "courageous" women more attractive than the average woman. A cowardly woman is unattractive. In fact, I sometimes find courageous women to be less attractive. For example, I think Gal Gadot is beautiful, but the Wonder Woman persona is unattractive. I think the powerful woman persona primarily appeals to men who feel weak and want a strong woman to step in and do the work that they can't do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 01:07 AM
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I am no longer attracted to fragile women who rely on others to be saved. PPD uses too many false dichotomies to argue their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 12:35 AM
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A woman who lacks any courage is a woman who will abandon her children to save her own skin instead of facing death with dignity. It's not a dichotomy. It's a continuum. Think of it as: "courageous" women, average women, and cowardly women. Most men aren't going to find courageous women as any more attractive than average women. Dragging cowardly women into the discussion is a red herring and looks like an attempt to build a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 12:21 AM
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There's a book called "Dateonomics" trying to explain to women why the dating world is so hard for college educated women. It basically revolves around the fact that more women than men go to college, so all these women are fighting over the same small number of men. Of course, I think the premise is flawed for a variety of reasons. But the fact that books exist to explain away why college educated women aren't having the romantic lives they hoped/expected tells you something about UMC women not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:25 AM
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And: "Well, women like to absolve themselves from any responsibility and blame it all on men. nothing new, tbh." Not that you'd admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 07:25 PM
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Stop playing the victim and shaming goldiggers. I don't understand why "stop shaming goldiggers" makes any sense in this context, especially if lying about their feelings and cheating is part of what they're doing. Sorry, it's not an either/or proposition. How about "Stop playing the victim and keep shaming those goldiggers." Honestly, it kind of smells of "women are wonderful" since you're advocating shifting all the blame to men while not holding women responsible for their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 07:17 PM
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I feel like this post is missing the point. I go to the gym regularly. I've lost 30-35 pounds compared to 10 years ago. I make an effort to be more social and get rid of my approach anxiety. I dress well. I even pay to get my clothes tailored. Etc. Etc. A major reason that guys don't like their place in the SMP is because they can see that they've got it a lot worse than women, and that women often hook up with loser guys and are baffled by women's behavior. All the talk about improving one's SM…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 08:16 AM
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I don't see that at all. I see a mixture. There's are times when I look at a couple and think, "He could do better". There are other times when I see a couple and think, "That dude looks sleazy/trashy and think she could do a lot better". Sometimes I'm tempted, when I see an attractive girl with a less attractive, trashy guy, to walk over and tell her that she could do a lot better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 05:55 PM
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There are multiple kinds of Nice Guys, but the internet sucks at making that clear or admitting it. In general, the internet pretends that there's only one kind of Nice Guy and endlessly mocks him, leaving other (more sympathetic men) to feel like they're being mocked and degraded because he actually is a nice guy. TLDR: The internet sucks at making distinctions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 07:01 PM
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Sex sells if you're a reasonably attractive woman. Sex does not sell if you're a man (unless you're selling to gay men). There's a reason that the majority of copies of PlayGirl magazine were bought by gay men rather than straight women, even though there's a hell of a lot more of the latter in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:26 AM
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No. I've seen statistics on how the birth of a child affects men's and women's wages. The study showed that women tend to see a flattening of wages when they have a child (probably by reducing work hours or being less available). They compared this to men's wages, which showed no decline after the child was born (edit: showed the same increase with or without children). The data was used to show that women's earnings show a decline (a "cost" of having children), but it also inadvertently shows t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 05:01 PM
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Only if you're in an extremely liberal place or have very liberal friends. Most women think bi men are transitioning to being gay - in such case, he's not worth having a relationship with unless she's willing to have him abandon her for some random guy at some point in the future. Edit: Speaking of which, I could also mention that survey showing that 2/3rds of women said they would not date a man who had dated other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:06 PM
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The numbers range from 500-700 and there's a 2:1 difference. I'm sure we're past the level of being statistically significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 08:00 PM
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Most of the OKCupid write up is very wrong, though. It looks like it was written by someone who came to the issue with a bias already in mind. Further: they talk about unattractive women not getting messages. That's simply false. Because they scaled the graphs, you can't see it, but other OKCupid data shows that ugly women receive more messages than attractive men. They aren't being ignored. Given other data showing that men are about 3x as likely to find and given woman attractive than a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 07:48 PM
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The result would be lots of dead bedrooms - like lesbian relationships ("Only about one-third of lesbians in relationships of 2 years or longer had sex once a week or more; 47% of lesbians in long-term relationships had sex once a month or less, and among heterosexual married couples, only 15% had sex once a week or less." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death), and women would still expect men to do most of the work of courtship and pursuing her, but women would complain about not f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 04:34 PM
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Professors self identify as liberal much more than the general public does. Here's results from a survey: https://goo.gl/images/mzKncy I'm also saying this as someone who moderately liberal. I don't know why people are okay with saying, for example, that people in rural areas vote conservative, but have a hard time admitting that professors skew liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 07:20 AM
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it doesn't change the fact that things could be better here, or that people inevitably swoop in to deny that whenever even the slightest of criticism is aimed at the grand ol' USA. if (general) you don't agree that the USA is an absolutely flawless and perfect place to live with absolutely zero changes or improvements needed for anyone ever, then there's really not much for you to rail against here. Nobody is saying that. If people were going around saying "hiso_hiso is one of the 10 worst human…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:39 PM
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The problem is that the claim being made is not at all reasonable. Being in the bottom 10 means the US is in the bottom 5% of all countries in the world for women. It's an absurd claim. ... not about the OP, just in general, but i see denial of any problems in a similar vein elsewhere and frankly, this particular flavor of rabid defense of the country from any criticism is weird and sad and... not helping anyone. Nobody is denying that problems exist. They're scoffing at the claim that the US is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:34 PM
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To be fair, they did say the most violent first world country. But it's still kind of a moot point since the ranking isn't about first world countries. It's a ranking of all 200+ countries in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:19 PM
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I don't know about that. There's a famous YouTube trans-woman who was working in academia (got her PhD), and even she was talking about the heavy feminist bias in academia. She said that it's simply taken as truth that the feminist version of reality is the correct one. It's not even debated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:16 PM
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I read the article. They don't include any statistics, but say that the US ranked badly because of sexual and nonsexual violence against women. Honestly, the whole thing sounds like a political tool - as in "if we place the US in the worst 10, then we'll be able to shame people into doing more for women in the US". I've seen stuff like this distorted to make some point to underscore women's problems - which is, in turn used to add power to the feminist movement and initiatives. For example, I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:02 PM
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That may be, but it also comes down to how much each gender needs to be/do to keep their partner happy. If there was a guy who was frustrated with his dating options, and he admitted that he maintains high standards (perhaps a bit too high), most people would point out that the issue is him. When it comes to women and high standards, people have a tendency to simply believe that men are crap rather than to believe that women are judging men too harshly or demanding too much. I'm a man, and I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:59 PM
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By your logic he shouldn’t have married her either. He shouldn't have married her because he should've known things would change at some point years on the future? Seems like a tall order when people are expected to have clairvoyance about their sex life falling apart in the future. Most people want to believe the best about their future.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:57 PM
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Glad to hear that you felt bad about it and seem to be acting honestly now. It reminds me of my ex girlfriend, who was nice to me in person, but always playing other men behind my back (lots of lying, cheating, even conning another guy out of money). I'm still baffled by her behavior and why she went to major lengths to try to keep me around after I found out everything, leaving me confused about why she treated me so badly behind my back if she wanted me around. I just think she's a sociopath w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:25 PM
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Just google "percentage of men and women who are childless". Some results: https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2010/27/more-childless-men http://sciencenordic.com/quarter-norwegian-men-never-father-children TLDR: A higher percentage of men than women are childless, and this is true both today and in decades past.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 05:02 PM
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From the article: A handful of firms have started providing loans—some of them for hundreds of thousands of dollars—to women so that they can properly argue their case in court. Ugh. Sounds like a chance for lawyers to stuck even more money out of divorcing couples. They are quite the succubus. Also from article: The loans’ interest rates can be high, but one firm estimates that applicants typically win assets worth three times the amount of their loan. Not sure if that's true, but it's obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:48 PM
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Off the top of my head, I remember seeing some survey that reported that 2/3rds of women say they wouldn't date a man who has dated other men. This can certainly reinforce men's negative attitudes about male homosexuality and bisexuality, and lead men to avoid doing anything which might be interpreted as gay - "no homo". Men don't have the same attitude about dating current or formerly bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:29 PM
1

Remove your dick from equations that don’t need it and women throw themselves at you. I'm jumping on the bandwagon to say that's absolutely not true. Holy shit that's so untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 09:49 PM
1

Of course the opinions of one woman is going to vary compared to other women, and in many cases, women are going to lie to their friends (including that male friend) so that they feel good about themselves. Women do this all the time to their female friends. Further, to the extent that confidence is attractive, it's adaptive for men to be overconfident.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:33 PM
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It's funny because lots of BPers claim there are no leagues, and that women are much less physically focused and have less of a consensus about men than men do about women. Ergo, they're playing into this belief that any man has a chance with a woman who is beautiful. I think BPers are full of shit with that idea, but their attempt to encourage men who lack confidence are also contributing to men hitting on women who are out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:30 PM
1

I don't believe it. Women also overestimate their own attractiveness. I've seen it many times. I still remember one chubby Hispanic girl telling me that she thought she was an 8.5 out of 10. In my head, I was like, "Whaaaaaaat?" Physically, she was below average - maybe a 3.5, although she had an pretty good personality, so I'd give her back a few points for that. Definitely not an 8.5, though. There are also a lot of very overweight women on dating apps going after men out of their league. I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:22 PM
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Whenever I see this kind of "common reasons women get divorced" explanations, I can't help but also consider the fact that lesbians get divorced at twice the rate that straight women do. So, I always take divorce explanations revolving around "these are things men do wrong" (which essentially aim to blame men for divorces) with a grain of salt. Based on the lesbian numbers, it makes me think that whatever is going wrong in straight relationships, women are definitely part of the cause. Otherwise…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:14 PM
1

What funny about that first image of spider woman ( https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-08/28/20/enhanced/webdr11/enhanced-11656-1409272162-3.jpg ) which is the whole impetus for the article is that it's actually very similar to a spider man image from years earlier ( https://imgix.bustle.com/lovelace/uploads/191/be3cf080-173b-0132-0857-0eae5eefacd9.jpg ).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 03:01 AM
0

One day has nothing to do with it. What's the statistical probability that I would get 22 non creepy messages, but every other woman is getting mostly creepy messages? I don't have to have a degree in statistics to know that's pretty unlikely. As I said, though, I wouldn't be surprised if experiences are different based on your demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 06:45 PM
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It makes me wonder about your demographic (attractive, age, white/ minority, social class). I'm say that because I created a fake tinder profile a while back of a woman. I had it for 24 hours before shutting it down because I don't like misleading people. But, I wanted to see what it was like for women on tinder. My conclusion: got 20x as many matches as I do as a man, recieved 22 messages, got zero creepy messages (although one was long and rambling and kind of odd, but wouldn't call it creepy)…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 06:17 PM
3

Yeah but /tinder is disproportionately male - even moreso than reddit in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 06:06 PM
1

If getting cheated on damages a man enough to make him a poor dating prospect, then does this apply to women, too? Are women who have been cheated on similarly bad prospects? If true, then when you combine "women who have been raped" with "women who have been cheated on", then there are probably very few single women who are good dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:31 AM
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I think it's fallacious to consider that if married men consistently work themselves to death, it means that the rest of male population are slackers. Sounds like you're constructing a strawman - the entire rest of the male population are slackers? Nobody is arguing that. Last time I checked, innovators were more likely to be lifetime bachelors than the general public. Even if that were true (and I doubt it, considering that when I think of highly successful men off the top of my head, none of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 08:02 PM
3

Was this post created just to give you a chance to grandstand about the number of women you've slept with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 08:26 PM
1

For one thing stepparents are more likely to be shittier than biological parents because people tend care more about their biological children than someone else's, whereas, stepparents are more likely to view children as their partner's baggage. (Which isn't to say that all stepparents are worse than biological parents in every particular case. It's just statistically true.) For example, I've read that stepparents are 20x as likely to sexually abuse their stepchild than a biological parent is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 08:02 PM
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And then atlas posted 14 minutes after your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 07:54 PM
1

I still don't think that qualifies as "most people".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 04:58 PM
8

I have to wonder, though, how many of those women who aren't having sex are doing it by choice. There is a difference between trying to get laid and failing versus not being willing to have sex even when it's offered to you because you're simply not interested. In the former case, it can hurt your self-esteem to be unable to get laid or get laid only with significant effort. In the latter case, you're reminded that you are attractive and desireable, but you just don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 04:23 PM
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I can't tell if you're serious or if you're doing a parody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 04:14 PM
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Do you have examples? Do you think it's only men doing this, or are you simply wondering why men (in particular) do this? I'm asking because many people don't know that women are often attacking other women online. Example: "Study: Women Slut-Shame Each Other On Twitter as Much as Men Do" http://time.com/107228/women-misogyny-twitter-study-demos/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 07:55 PM
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Interestingly, I remember a quote from R.Crumb talking about how he never had much luck with women... and then he said that things changed once he got famous. Kind of am interesting observation on the value of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:36 PM
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Probably because studies have shown that women's self-reported happiness has been on the decline for the last 60 years. Example: "Women are unhappier than they have been in 35 years. So suggests a study released earlier this week by the National Bureau of Economics. Two economists at U Penn conducted an exhaustive study of happiness and found that women's "subjective well-being" has declined, "both absolutely and relatively to men," as they put it. In fact, though women have historically had hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:47 PM
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The data also showed that more attractive men send more messages than ugly men. If men are messaging women at their own level, and attractive men send more messages than ugly men, then of course attractive women should receive more messages. I'm also not convinced that attractive women send very many messages - i.e. I think it's the reverse for women. In short: you're making assumptions based on these graphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:12 PM
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Sorry. I've seen other data showing that women are slightly more likely than men to message men above their level. I'd post it, but I'm at work, and I have the urls on my computer at home. The data, which was broken down by splitting men and women into 20% percentile blocks and showed who they were messaging, showed that women were more likely to send a message to a guy in a higher quintile than men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:07 PM
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Speed dating studies show that women are far less attracted to men in general than men are to women. Both speed dating and tinder have shown that the average man is interested in about 50% of women, but the average woman is interested in about 15% of men. Since the average man is in the 50th percentile, and he's interested in 50% of women, then it means that (at least at the bottom end of his range), he's interested in women at his level (the 50th percentile). The fact that a woman at the 50th p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:05 PM
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Can you provide evidence that this is what men are doing? Because this whole post kinda sounds like a strawman argument to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:30 AM
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men have no qualms dropping their original partner if more attractive women than they're used to suddenly become available. Depends on the man. There are quite a lot of entrepreneurs who became rich, but stick with their original wife. It depends on how restless the guy is. I hope you don't complain about guys using the acronym "AWALT" because you're doing the same thing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:14 AM
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Yes, he should stick around at least a little while to help her through a difficult time, but doesn't need to stay with her until death or recovery. Dropping her immediately shows a complete lack of emotional concern and suggests a certain level of sociopathic (complete lack of emotional attachment and selfishness) tendencies. Anyone who would do this is probably emotionally disturbed and/or absurdly selfish. Did he owe her a life long commitment because of their 2 year relationship in their twe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 09:15 PM
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Then explain the fact that lesbians divorce at twice the rate of straight couples or gay male couples. If it was merely that women were initiating divorces for men who have "checked out", then we would not see a two-fold rate of divorces been women. I've been in enough relationships and seen enough relationships to know that women are unpredictable and capricious in relationships and when they fall out of love with someone. If you've never dated a woman, you don't know that. I also have lesbian …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 09:06 PM
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That's a stupid way of framing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:49 PM
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Based on research I've seen, women's ratings of men based on photos alone have about 80% as much consensus as men's ratings of women. It's weaker, but not by a large degree. Further, those studies are based on photos alone, which raises the possibility that, if personality is included, that women's ratings of men had more consensus than men's ratings of women. For example, if men aren't turned off by a girl who's shy, but women are turned off by shy men, then women's opinions of men will form a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:07 PM
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No, it's not. It's because women place little value on casual sex, especially with men who have lower status than them. Males have no issue with having sex with lower status women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 04:50 PM
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I feel like you have selective reading of the comments. Red pill man says: "As a guy who got rid of his erectile problems by using nofap i have to disagree."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:50 PM
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That's irrelevant and you're moving the goalposts. Both men and women get something out of dating and relationships, but men have to put the work into courtship. Nobody claimed it's selfless (that's your strawman argument). People are claiming that the costs and benefits are unequally distributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:38 PM
2

In Argentina, women can get retirement at age 60. Men have to wait until age 65.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 05:31 PM
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We are beginning to attribute more significance than necessary to euphoric experiences, and we ascribe to "euphoria" an unwarranted depth of meaning. Not really a new idea. It sounds like a very old idea - as in early Hinduism. Sexuality was associated with divinity. They were associating euphoric sexual experiences with the divine. Example: https://goo.gl/images/Wkz5S4
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:36 AM
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No. If some other guy says he likes some girl, and I didn't previously think she was attractive, my attitude towards him is "hope you have fun with her" because I don't really care. If I previously liked her, then I might be more proactive about approaching her because I knew I had to get in there before another guy did, and if there are other guys after her, it's only a matter of time until another guy goes for her. When I read young and insecure, if I liked a girl, I was afraid of what other p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 07:26 AM
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He shouldn't, but then again, most male older medical professionals I meet aren't "dating hot 20 year olds" (I'm cringing at this juvenile cliche) .. they are married to people of approximately their age who they met in school (in most cases). Ditto for investment professionals (which is my line of work). Most 30-40 year old men are in relationships and/or married with little kids. He's obviously talking about the ones who aren't married. The ones who aren't are simply not relationship material …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:50 PM
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Let's not pretend that men don't also lose attraction and sexual enthusiasm in long term relationships. Have you ever heard of the Coolidge Effect? Let's not pretend like women's and men's sexual desire declines similarly. We already have the statistical data showing that women's desire declines significantly more and faster in long term relationships. "Specifically, for each additional month women in this study were in a relationship with their partner, their sexual desire decreased by 0.02 (on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:22 PM
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I also think men have the biological wiring that helps them in this behaviour. I doubt that. I also think that men's difficult experiences (including frequent rejection) with women is part of the cause of some men's dismissive, bitter attitudes towards women. At the worst end of the scale, it can produce a cycle of failure: Attempt to approach woman -> get rejected -> deal with difficult feelings of not ending up with the girl they are attracted to, self-doubt, damaged self confidence -> stop ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:05 PM
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I don't know. There was a video a while back my Robert Sapolsky showing that humans are partway between a pair- bonding and a tournament species on a variety of measures. For example, humans are not anywhere close to the sexual dimorphism of gorillas, which are a very polygynous species (males are 400-500 pounds, females are 160-210 pounds; in other words, males are 2.4x-2.5x as heavy as females). Similar patterns are seen in Walrus. The fact that humans don't show this level of sexual dimorphis…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:57 PM
1

Your comment reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/Y1ZJiBHh-Yw
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 04:49 PM
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I know quite a few women who are in relationships and are unhappy with their partners. I don't know why you say that's a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 02:44 PM
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Men become placating, boring, and generally unattractive over time. Just as the meme of the bride "now i can get fat", men make excuses to let their looks/weight go, become good plowhorses but shitty lovers. You know that lesbians have twice the divorce rate of straight couples, right? This makes me think that, if this explanation is true, that women are just as guilty of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 02:42 PM
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I don't know. A few months ago, I was hanging out with a friend and his friends were there. One guy revealed that by the time he graduated from college, he had slept with 39 women. He followed this up with "I'm not bragging. I'm not proud of most of the women I slept with." Indicating that he was very clearly sleeping with a lot of unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure that women in polygynous relationships aren't happy either, because they aren't being enough emotional bonding time with their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 08:43 PM
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If you ask me men have seriously slanted things in their favor as we went from "you should sleep with your husband" to "you should sleep with any guy who gives you a modicum of attention otherwise you're literally robbing him off what's fair". I really don't know what world you're living in, because that's never been the world where I live. I suppose just another example of people of PPD using extreme hyperbole. The average number of sexual partners in a lifetime is around 7. So you're arguing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:29 PM
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I don't know what you're talking about. Men do not get plenty of attention. They're are plenty of posts on reddit commenting on how often guys even get a compliment - and it's rare to never. Women do get plenty of attention. I've gone on dates with plenty of women that I was interested in dating, not just looking for a hookup. There are lots of other guys doing the same, but women are still maintaining super high standards about "what's good enough" for dating. People here have this bizarre idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:04 PM
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I don't even think that's true, either. I had a date that went really well a few months ago. We were both into each other. I contacted her later about meeting up again. She misunderstood something I said, that was really quite minor, blew it out of proportion and ghosted me. I only know about it because I was so completely baffled by her ghosting me that I sent her another message a month later, and she told me what happened. It was so irritating that she misunderstood, didn't ask me, and then c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 01:26 AM
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No. That's not always true. I feel like you're just assuming the best about women. Sometimes women take something insignificant and build a whole story in their minds about how it actually reflects something major, when the connection between the two is actually very tenuous and built on assumptions. It's as if they think they have some genius insight into the workings of other people's minds that they've just met. I could give you plenty of examples. I remember one case where a woman told me th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 09:19 PM
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the message flood is unmanageable Only if you're a woman. If you're a man, you're fighting to get any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:19 PM
1

It's probably just more common, especially when people don't really know each other and have no mutual friends (which is typical with dating apps).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:16 PM
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Yup. It's awful. I eventually came to the conclusion that there's a lot more men than women on most dating sites. This results in women becoming ultra picky, contributing little to the interaction, and willing to ghost the moment you're not entertaining her. I've also had women end things for the stupidest, most insignificant reasons - and I've seen them do it to other guys, too. One of my not-that-attractive female friends pulled off dates almost every other day for a whole summer. It was like …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 05:50 PM
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I feel like there are different categories of things that fall into "things I'd do with a hookup, don't do with an SO". You're only giving on one of those categories, and it's not an entirely fair assessment of the situation to claim that they all fall into the puking, shitting, or other embarrassing things category.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 05:41 PM
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You're just arguing that women have it harder because they have higher standards. By that logic, couldn't you say that a guy in the US with a middle class income who demands that he climbs to the top 1% of wealth has it harder than a poor guy in Africa who doesn't have aspirations to be rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 06:25 AM
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Impregnating the wrong woman can be a disaster. Not only will many men try to make it work, but he's also on the hook for child support. Lots of ex-wives have made men's lives miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 06:59 PM
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Because women can't stand criticism. Nobody likes criticism, but women spend a lot more time trying to manage their reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:48 PM
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Atlas B Shruggin b trippin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 03:46 PM
1

Not sure what you're talking about when you say that men are saying that. Looking at the comments here, it looks like there are plenty of women arguing that statutory rape of boys is less traumatic than statutory rape of girls - because it happens in the context of a long term "relationship" when women do it to boys, etc. and generally coming up with reasons to explain why women get shorter sentences by saying that's it's not as bad for boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:39 PM
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What nonsense. Also a pretty bizarro definition for status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:31 PM
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Surprising how well the sentencing discrepancy fits with the sentencing discrepancies for all crimes. Other research has shown that women get sentences that are 40% shorter than men for the same crime. This data shows as women getting sentences that are 44% shorter. Edit: A source - "The study found that men receive sentences that are 63 percent higher, on average, than their female counterparts." (Mathematically, that means women get sentences that are 39% shorter.) https://m.huffpost.com/us/en…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:24 PM
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Did you really just downgrade "women commiting statutory rape" to "women being promiscuous"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:21 PM
1

There are a lot of people without a double digit count by 30. The average person has around 7 partners in their entire lifetime. I know women with partner counts in the low single digits in their late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 06:36 PM
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No they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 11:42 PM
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Yup. There's a desire for women to feel maximally oppressed by exaggerating hardships on women throughout history. Article: courtship and marriage in the 18th century While parents expected to be consulted and offered advice or criticism freely, men and women chose their own marriage partners, and parents usually accepted their children’s choices. Parents could control their children’s ability to marry before the age of twenty-one. Those who disliked their children’s choices might withhold permi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 09:20 PM
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If a man lowers his ELO by mass swipe rights, he should at least see his match percentage go up because he should be seeing more low SMV women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 09:10 PM
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No, that's not true in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 09:07 PM
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Not true at all. Most of your comments on this thread seem like anti-male troll comments, though, so not sure how seriously to take anything you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 09:05 PM
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#FakeHistory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 06:23 PM
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No men love those dumb filters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 06:20 PM
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She must've had a low ELO score. Tinder assigns each user a score based on how often other people swipe right on them (among other things), and then shows that user equivalent users. If that's all she was seeing, it must mean that she was rated petty low by the tinder algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 06:19 PM
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Experiments show that men are also messaging many of those women - it's not just a mass swipe right. An average woman will receive a lot more messages than an average guy will receive matches. That alone shows that women receive far more interest from men then men receive from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 06:05 PM
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Here you go. I saw an article blaming toxic masculinity for mass shootings posted on Facebook the other day. https://www.google.com/search?q=toxic+masculinity+mass+shootings
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 08:41 PM
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"Toxic femininity" is a thing, but it's talked about a lot less, and feminists have hijacked the term so that it's not the mirror image of "toxic masculinity". If you Google the term, the first few links describe toxic femininity as bad things that society forces on women (ie the "women are victims" narrative). So, stuff like "being thin/ in-shape in order to be considered attractive" would be called toxic femininity. If it was the mirror image of "toxic masculinity" it would be shitty things th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:50 PM
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I feel like the term "thirsty" is used to disparage men. We could just as easily say that most women are fridged. Though that would shift blame from the man and onto the woman, and we all know it's not socially acceptable to do that. Feel like it's more of the "women are wonderful, men are terrible" trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 06:28 PM
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I somewhat agree with you about how some women don't get much attention (although it's more common for men to get no attention see my edit), but there are certainly women who do become man-hating and I've even seen women suggesting using "negs" on men. If you've been on WGTOW or ChoosingBeggars, you'll see some of these women. The other day, I was listening to a podcast and the two women hosts went on a rant about how awful men were and one woman started talking about how she wishes she was lesb…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:01 AM
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Don't believe everything you read in Game of Thrones. Inbreeding is actually very bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 07:17 AM
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Difficulty dating, and the associated resentment that comes from a lack of attention or affection is part of the problem. (In fact, one study showed that young men involved in violence and gang activity were less likely to offend in the future if they had a girlfriend.) Consider this: imagine that your parents move to a new city. You start going to a new school. Nobody wants to be your friend. What's the likely outcome of that hardship? Resentment? Anger at schoolmates? It's true that "nobody's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 03:35 AM
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According to this, their suicide rate is barely above the US suicide rate. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/suiciderate.html
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 01:39 AM
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Black men are mean, but white men can be meaner. You might be interested to know that marriages between black men and black women result in divorce much more frequently than marriages between black women and white men. Just Google "interracial divorce rate", and you'll find some statistics. It's not all bad between black women and white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 12:56 AM
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And black women aren't developing their resources outside of men. I don't know about that. Black women are much more likely than black men to get higher education (lookup the statistics on bachelor degrees or masters degrees). In general, women are outperforming men in higher education, but black women are outperforming black men in higher education by an even larger margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 11:10 PM
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So in black America, nobody is married and men have all the power. In Nigeria, everybody is married and men have all the power. I feel like those two things have different causes. It's not just "men have the power regardless of whether marriage is or isn't a thing". In America, black men are dating/marrying interracially much more so than black women. (I just looked it up and 24% of black men and 12% of black women are interracially married.) That, along with everything else going on with black …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 10:46 PM
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Good point. I'd add to it the fact that every group has an incentive to claim victimhood - if you can convince people that they are being victimized, it makes them more motivated to push their own agenda, less likely to compromise, and more likely to lack sympathy for anybody else. As a result, everybody (conservative republicans, liberals, feminists, men, minorities, etc) champions their own victimhood. Even dumb things like "the war on Christmas" are designed to build a feeling of victimhood a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 10:36 PM
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