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I came to appreciate “just be yourself” because growing up I watched a lot of cringe “PUA” stuff and reading a lot of self help books on dating. In my opinion those guys just make things too complicated and say a lot of inaccurate stuff. It’s hard to exactly describe. Dating is competitive, but it’s definitely not like a sporting event that you can directly “train” for so to speak. “Be the best version of yourself” is probably a better way of phrasing it. Hit the gym, learn to be somewhat charis…
/r/seduction01/05/23 04:58 AM
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Nah OP makes a legitimate point. Most of my success with women, even in college, has been from breaking through social convention and being bold. It’s a lot of effort and you have to confront not only your own cowardice, but also the feeling that you’re just not supposed to talk to girls you don’t know because it’s creepy. For most men of they’re just calm, respectful and never embrace boldness then they’ll never have success with girls.
/r/seduction25/10/22 08:30 PM
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The degree to which you have to be genuinely funny is proportional to how attracted a woman is initially attracted to you. If you’re actually funny I do think that’ll help you with women, though of course from experience a lot of us know when a woman is really into you she’ll laugh at anything you say even if it’s not funny or even if you weren’t trying to be funny. Then there’s the opposite case where a woman to be stone faced even after use A+ comedy material because she’s not attracted to you…
/r/seduction25/10/22 05:16 PM
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There’s no way around rejection. Be upfront and clear with your intentions. You’ll be turned down more often than not, but that’s just how it is.
/r/seduction02/10/22 10:42 PM
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I think where you live is huge. I live in a smallish town so I only have meaningful interactions that could lead to sex with girls my age on a fairly rare basis. Stiff competition on dating apps, and where to cold approach? Not that much going on and mostly soccer moms at the few local crumbing malls. Contrast this with a good looking dude that lives in London with a decent lifestyle who is probably just naturally meeting many women. I will say that statistically men who are in relationships hav…
/r/seduction12/09/22 04:59 AM
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I’m trying to obtain a mental representation for how attraction works for most women. Every theory of mine has been blown to pieces by personal experience.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:44 AM
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I’m really curious as to how often women are approached in real life in a non creepy way (which is admittedly difficult). I need more female friends for questions like this.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:43 AM
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In general I’d say no, but a woman playing with her hair could sometimes be an indication of interest. It’s impossible to know most of the time. Talk to the woman and see if you catch a vibe. Approaching random women is very difficult and awkward, but it beats staying at home jacking off to porn, or swiping on tinder without success.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:36 AM
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None, but I’m not a 9-10 guy either though lol. I’m decently attractive but super attractive women usually have very high standards. Whatever type of women you can get, get a lot of them, at least at first. If you tell a girl you’re exclusive and are fucking chicks behind her back then that’s different.
/r/seduction01/08/22 09:51 PM
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If I run into a “solid 10” then I’ll talk to her with less neediness than I would otherwise.
/r/seduction01/08/22 09:43 PM
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No definitely not, but how is that relevant? You’re always gonna have a better chance with a girl if you’re more calm and less desperate, which comes from dating multiple women.
/r/seduction01/08/22 09:36 PM
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I don’t understand your question.
/r/seduction01/08/22 09:21 PM
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Talk to and date multiple women at a time. HUGE change for me, way less desperation now.
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:37 PM
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Good shit. Trial and error is the most effective teacher. 1 hour of approaching is worth more than 4 months of reading comments on Reddit.
/r/seduction01/08/22 02:35 AM
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Not a big deal and from my experience it’s not awkward after.
/r/seduction29/07/22 12:36 AM
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I think it’s best to be direct as possible. A lot of women can’t handle the truth and will turn you down if you directly say you want to hookup. However, I have wasted a lot of time going on dates with girls who weren’t interested and I didn’t find out because I was too indirect at first, but when it really came down to getting physical they weren’t having it. On the flip side too, how many girls has the average guy missed out on because he was too indirect and the woman assumed he was too weak …
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:23 PM
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I go back and forth on this question a lot. A few days ago I read research that adjusted the Hatfield and Clarke studies such that women were equally interested in casual sex as men, and for decades evolutionary psychologists and sociologists have taken it as gospel that that wasn’t the case. Plus on the Facebook Dating all like half the girls say in their profiles that they’re down for “something casual”. I think women first and foremost fear sexual violence, then after that social repercussion…
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:19 PM
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There I three categories you can fall into with women: number one is they are not attracted to you and even if you were the last man on earth she wouldn’t want to be with you. Number two is she’s attracted to you but there are better looking/higher status men she could get with so she’ll either play games with you, give you a lot of shit tests, etc. The third category is when you are the woman’s number one choice. In this case a woman isn’t going to play games with you and is gonna make it as ea…
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:00 PM
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You don’t have to think about any of that shit. If a girl turns you down, move on. Most men are turned down most of the time. Stop looking at social media too and instead read books if you’re feeling inadequate.
/r/seduction23/07/22 10:34 PM
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Use pictures at first to ween yourself off of it.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:52 PM
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Ween yourself off of it. Use pictures at first instead of just imagination.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:51 PM
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Mark Manson suggested single men allow themselves to masterbate just once a week without porn, which is definitely a challenge. It will however give you ample motivation to talk to girls and will help more than any book or Reddit trick ever could.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:13 AM
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Good question. Not masterbating at all is extremely hard but it will put a fire under you like crazy. Sometimes I do that, but now I try to use my imagination or use as little …. “Visual aids” as possible lol. The least amount of visual stimulation the better, or, the more it will push you to talking to actual girls.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:10 AM
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To add to what Live-Ad-6309, imagine a woman you are attracted to wants to approach you, in what situation would you find that unacceptable? When women say that stuff it’s ridiculous. I would want a woman I find attractive woman to approach me at my mother’s fucking funeral. When women talk about places they don’t want men to approach them at it only applies to men they aren’t interested in them. Remember that.
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:12 AM
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Porn is a HUGE reason. Most of the time talking to girl you want to have sex with is awkward, and society pushes the narrative that women don’t want to be approached by creepy men so there’s always a million excuses. HOWEVER, if you give up porn you will become horny enough to talk to women. The deep biological urge will bubble up and you’ll find a fucking way. All the PUA stuff, dating advice and self help shit is just meant to be a very rough guide to help make sense of your trial and error pr…
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:04 AM
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Exactly
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:46 PM
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Who the fuck cares. We’re all adults. I’ve asked women out at my jiu jitsu gym who have turned me down. Possibly a little bit awkward at first, but life goes on and we’re still amiable. We even still grapple which a lot of times means my sweat drilling into her eyeballs lol. If me and those women can handle that situation then you can approach women at a normal gym. Remember, men have to deal with the prospect of being alone forever and possibly never getting female companionship if they don’t m…
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:43 PM
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Well where are you gonna meet women then? It’s always gonna be awkward, especially if a girl isn’t interested. This kind of stuff is very insidious
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:29 PM
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Pay no attention to her. There are always gonna be cunts that call men “creeps” for no good reason, and if you let that get to you that can really damage your confidence. Intentionally a woman feel uncomfortable is creepy, desiring women in their 20s is not.
/r/seduction19/07/22 09:39 PM
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Good question. It’s competitive out there and attractive women’s standards are sky high
/r/seduction19/07/22 09:34 PM
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Teach me your ways master Neo
/r/seduction18/07/22 02:26 AM
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The only girls I connect with on dating apps are fat girls with little/no sex appeal. My friends who have been to other countries/cities who look about as good as me have had a different experience though.
/r/seduction17/07/22 02:31 PM
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No try to date and build a social life AT THE SAME TIME. You can constantly say “the time isn’t right” forever and eventually die with regret.
/r/seduction17/07/22 02:30 PM
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I need a girl like you
/r/seduction16/07/22 09:39 PM
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If you think a girl isn’t attracted to you, she isn’t. If she is being very flirtatious, laughing at everything you say, touching you, etc. then maybe she is interested. In my experience “no” is a lot clearer than a “yes”. Many girls will flirt just for attention as well and will dangle the carrot of dating/having sex with them in order to get that attention from you.
/r/seduction11/07/22 11:16 PM
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Lol, did you? How would you rate the smoothness of your approach?
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:05 PM
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So you’ve made a woman feel attracted to you after she indicated she had no interest?
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:01 PM
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There is a bit more nuance to it than that. I’m involved with this one woman who depending on the situation will either reject my advances or agree to have sex depending on how smooth I am and how I proposition her. Men it’s not like that at all, if we want to have sex with a woman we’d climb mountains and walk through fire to get it. HOWEVER, do you really want to date someone who is lukewarm towards you?
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:59 PM
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Yes and no. If you have a female friend who’s curved you multiple times and you’re still trying to create attraction then take the L and walk away. However, you have to buy yourself more than 5 seconds. May want to try going indirect for a minute or two and then give them the whole “I think you’re cute …” line. If you walk up to a girl with a shaky voice in a public place and immediately call her cute may be weird, but in either case approaching women you don’t know is extremely difficult. Takes…
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:56 PM
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I will say that women do seem to like the “I don’t give a fuck attitude”. Men who would dare society to castrate them and wouldn’t allow them. Men who aren’t afraid of rocking the boat. However, in the 90s you could approach a woman with bold confidence with the “idgaf about rocking the boat” vibe without actually having risk getting kicked out of a mall because of it. Today, I’m not sure how much of a risk boldly approaching a woman in public is. Honestly, probably not much of a risk. Feminists…
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:38 PM
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First off I can tell you’re similar to myself, naturally cautious. If there’s one guy in Idaho who possibly got kicked out of a shopping mall because he complimented a crazy lady and she reported him to the security guard who just didn’t like the guy for some reason and he got banned as a result, then that scares us more than we are inspired by the many men on here who say they’ve approached hundreds of women with no problems like that. Anyways, I am cautious about that kind of stuff and the pro…
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:29 PM
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Who here has tried going down and dirty from the start like Alan Roger Currie suggests to do? I never could do it because 1) I don’t have the balls to do it, 2) I don’t want to get kicked out of local businesses and 3) I’ve seen social experiments where no women are receptive to that.
/r/seduction03/07/22 09:55 PM
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Yeah society is becoming more and more hostile towards men, paradoxically along with the far right as well. Like how are men supposed to get with women then? If approaching is banned then it makes it pretty much impossible. It is sort of like minefield as you said. With this information in mind (guy being banned from a mall because complimenting a girl) I think the indirect approach is preferable.
/r/seduction03/07/22 09:48 PM
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Some girls will think you’re creepy regardless. Get over it. If she thinks you’re trying to get in her pants, good! You want her to know that. What are you trying to hide your intentions? That’s fucking weak.
/r/seduction03/07/22 09:38 PM
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Lol that’s easier said than done. Situationally very difficult and it’s made harder because at least for me nervous jitters at first make my voice shaky. Realize though that sometimes it’s impossible not to make things awkward. Like all things though, fortune favors the one who tries.
/r/seduction03/07/22 09:36 PM
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Yeah some women can be cunts, but then again a lot of them are jaded from weirdos. Gotta have thick skin is all I can say.
/r/seduction03/07/22 09:33 PM
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Hey you could be short like me and have a much smaller dating pool.
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:59 PM
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Exactly
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:47 PM
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Don’t necessarily agree about things already have happened if she had feelings. Most of the time women expect men to make the first move. I would never recommend for men to intentionally become friends first with a woman because once they put you into that “friend” category it’s hard for them to take you out, but it is possible. Remember that according to studies half of relationships start out as friendships. Just be casual about and don’t “confess” your feelings.
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:46 PM
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That’s the thing though, he doesn’t have to “confess his love”, just be more casual about it. If it makes things a little bit awkward then so what, if you’re actually friends then it shouldn’t matter too much. If by “friends” he means patiently listening to all her stories hoping that one day she’ll fall for him, then after getting rejected he probably won’t continue to see her which means he won’t waste time. I think in these situations it’s important to distinguish the two.
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:41 PM
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It’s an interesting topic. The one kid who I know who does best with women calls himself ugly and in terms of handsomeness he’s below average but tall. Has really good game. Girls are constantly punching him on the arm and have the bratty sister vibe. Me on the other hand I’m more handsome than him (though shorter) yet have had much less success with women because I don’t have a very good social circle to work from and not as social. Pinning down the exact mechanism of attraction is difficult fo…
/r/seduction25/06/22 03:20 PM
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Yeah it can be rough out there. Stick with it and take time off when you need to (not for too long though). Dating is very competitive for men right now, especially when you’re young. Idk what your goals are but if it’s a long term relationship think about things this way, if you’re broke and ugly but a girl is still into you you know she actually likes you for who you are and that’s a pretty powerful thing. I too have had long dry spells where multiple girls I thought I had a powerful connectio…
/r/seduction21/06/22 04:53 PM
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So you approached several girls a week, somehow made a connection with all of them (idk how that’s possible) and were turned down every time?
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:58 PM
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How many girls did you directly ask out?
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:07 PM
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I’m older than that and it’s still how I think 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. This high school mindset holds a lot of people back. Nobody fucking cares.
/r/seduction21/06/22 03:06 PM
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Exactly. You know it is a tough balance because I have said shit that pisses off a woman and she has left, so exclusively pissing a woman off isn’t guaranteed to work. Best to just be who you are, and maybe have a little bit of polish the first few dates. In my experience you have to RISK pissing off a woman and having her leave, or else it’s almost guaranteed that her attraction towards you will dissipate if you’re too nice and constantly calculating what will smooth things over the most. In co…
/r/seduction20/06/22 04:28 PM
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Speaks to the fundamental lack of desperation with women when it comes to sex. Like I have some stuff going for me as a man, but to get a girl to have sex with me takes a lot of time, effort and luck. It’s pretty rare for me to meet a woman where I can sense that same level of “thirst” for sex that most men have, and it’s because of this. This puts it into stark perspective too. In 1994 a hot woman would still definitely have a lot of options, but if she wanted to have sex then she’d had to pret…
/r/seduction20/06/22 04:21 PM
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Autism spectrum aye. Well, 99% of the time when a woman’s dressed like that it’s for male attention. Most of the time she won’t want to have sex with the men thirsting after her, but nonetheless that is a boost to her ego.
/r/seduction20/06/22 03:49 PM
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Really
/r/seduction14/06/22 03:32 PM
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Looks like you need a better friend group. I’ve been having trouble recently and I think it’s just that the women I’ve been talking to aren’t right for me. A lot of them have been cunts and I try to tell them what I think they want to here because I’m horny, and in the long run I think that has made me look weak. One girl I was talking to was a massive cunt to me, would complain about how I wasn’t nice enough to her and didn’t give her enough compliments (even though I was very nice and as compl…
/r/seduction14/06/22 12:55 AM
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Very situation specific, as a general rule though, I’d say no.
/r/seduction25/05/22 11:40 PM
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My advice would be to not masterbate. The only time I talk to girls is when I only masterbate once or twice a week and then my mental outlook shifts completely from feeling like a creep when I talk to women, to it feeling like the natural thing to do - to do what I was put on this earth to do - to try to get with women.
/r/seduction24/05/22 11:55 PM
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I have known a lot of girls who say they don’t like guys who play games and just wants a guy to show her a great amount of attention/affection, but when you go over their dating history all of their boyfriends didn’t show them quite as much attention and affection as they wanted leaving them feeling at least slightly frustrated. Their guy friends who were waiting for their lucky day gave them all of that attention they could ever want and were never rewarded with anything. Most women are attract…
/r/seduction22/05/22 03:35 PM
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Interesting. “Meetme”. Never heard of it. How would you go about getting with girls on Facebook? Just chit chat about random stuff and then setup a meeting?
/r/seduction21/05/22 04:58 AM
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Which apps WERE you using? I’m genuinely curious. What else besides tinder would give you 40 lays?
/r/seduction21/05/22 03:27 AM
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What other apps?
/r/seduction21/05/22 03:19 AM
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On average
/r/seduction20/05/22 09:19 PM
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How much talking do you do with girls on tinder before sleeping with them?
/r/seduction20/05/22 09:19 PM
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Hmm okay. Well if you’re still insecure after that many lays I’d look inside. I mean I’ve heard the average guy (though it varies a lot of course) has sex with 7 women in his life. You’re at 45 lol. Maybe I should take a trip to cali haha.
/r/seduction20/05/22 09:12 PM
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Jesus. Do you live in a big city or something? I’ve only had a handful.
/r/seduction20/05/22 09:07 PM
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How much success do you have online with dating apps and stuff like that?
/r/seduction20/05/22 08:54 PM
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Well if men were lukewarm about sex then none of us would be here
/r/seduction20/05/22 08:32 PM
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Also OP makes a valid point and others have made it too. That is their experience and I have stated mine. Some people’s line of work naturally brings them into contact with friends and women, and when they’re are on their purpose people are just attracted to them. Others like myself are in highly technical fields or in corporate jobs with long hours and it’s easy for them to keep their heads down in their work and have days turn into weeks and weeks turn into years. Think of who you are and what…
/r/seduction20/05/22 08:29 PM
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I was a good looking sports star growing up and I didn’t get shit. My friend who always got with hot girls is ugly. Looks most of the time is a self limiting belief. And if you’re really ugly that just means the dating pool is smaller for you, fundamentally it’s the same process you’ll just be rejected more often. Remember many women have niche physical tastes and even prime brad Pitt is going to be rejected sometimes.
/r/seduction20/05/22 08:21 PM
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You’re acting autistic
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:11 PM
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Ahh. Why didn’t you say that in the original post. Much different dynamic now that you say your friends were girls.
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:09 PM
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Amazing. Terrible friends though. Who cockblocks their OWN friends, usually that’s what the girl’s friends do at nightclubs when she’s drunk.
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:06 PM
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For me most of my success with women has been from trying to get with women, not from being on my purpose, and I have one hell of a purpose which lights a fire under me (integrating engineering and medicine). However, I have found that the two almost work against each other. I know a lot of successful guys academically and with their careers, and some of them don’t get any women. Women could almost care less. The most successful guy I know with women is a kid puts in the work talking to girls. A…
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:03 PM
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I used to watch PUA stuff back in the day and Corey Wayne’s stuff is very natural by comparison. Incorporate the principles he talks about into your personality, don’t be a mechanical robot though.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 05:22 PM
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You make a good point that his ideas are sort of untouchable since if you don’t follow to the t then he says read 10-15 times and if you’re too mechanical then he’ll call you a robot. From the newsletter videos I’ve seen though the criticism on both counts is usually justified. You may be taking his advice too literally. I think his book and Robert glover’s are the best general guidelines for dating. Most of the time when I’ve strayed from their rules it has cost me. For instance texting too muc…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 05:17 PM
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I have some female friends who rejected me. I get the rejection over with up front and then sometimes a natural friendship results with the understanding that they don’t find me physically attractive. This takes the ambiguity out of things. Next time you get rejected look at it as a consolation prize, but don’t think of it as a way to covertly change her mind over time.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:01 PM
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Having a social circle is huge so I get that angle of it. For me having a best friend who is a chick is sort of weird though. Maybe I’m too horny but if there’s a girl with some of sex appeal and there’s an emotional bond, I want to take it to the next level. I usually ask girls out early and if she denies me and we’re in the same social network we’ll still be loose friends. Could be a problem with myself though because I never have felt comfortable completely opening up to women because I think…
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:55 PM
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Virginity or the prison sentence?
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:42 PM
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Yeah on the virginity stuff he doesn’t have to talk about it. Privacy is a nice thing. The prison sentence on the other hand is more complicated. People make mistakes, and in OP’s case a really fucking big one robbing a bank. Should be thankful you’re alive, and it will make for a bit more challenging of a dating experience but you’re not your past self. Best of luck.
/r/seduction16/05/22 02:44 PM
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Women don’t care about virginity/not being attractive to other women? This is the dumbass advice women give which they either know is untrue or lack the self awareness to know in the slightest what they’re attracted to. HOWEVER, the thing guys like this don’t have to advertise that they’re virgins. He’s not carrying a placard walking around which says “HEY I AM A VIRGIN”. Sort of a life hack in many ways when you realize that information is private. Long term prison sentence is a complicating fa…
/r/seduction16/05/22 02:40 PM
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I would recommend reading the study in its entirety because it is interesting. Brought up in a lot of intro to psych classes and it’s one of those classic social experiments. So the man and woman are complete strangers, but it does not take into account then meeting up past the initial approach. However, they did at least agree to go on a date which is why I’m saying that it’s if the average guy approaches 20 women and they all tell him “thanks but no thanks” or “get lost” then I think he’s doin…
/r/seduction14/05/22 11:51 PM
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Yes I did mean it as a joke lol. As far as the study goes, the results have been repeated. You and the other guy on this comment thread already approach a lot of girls. Try it out. I’m curious but I live in a smallish town and am apprehensive about shitting where I eat. Remember too that the 50 percent number is the number of girls who agreed to go on a date. How many of them flake after that? Definitely a considerable amount.
/r/seduction14/05/22 08:49 PM
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Why don’t I try it? Because it takes confidence and balls of steel. I haven’t had it in me approach random women out of the blue in awhile. Come on we’re a community someone try it and report the results. Let’s test this famous Hatfield study ourselves. I’m just thinking about if I was a young woman and a guy came up and said something like “hey I find you attractive. Would you like to go out with me tonight?” it would be a little forward, but would definitely communicate confidence, directness …
/r/seduction14/05/22 07:55 PM
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No half of the girls agreed to go out on a date.
/r/seduction14/05/22 07:31 PM
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True
/r/seduction14/05/22 07:11 PM
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You must be some kind of Zoolander model or something. Back when I was a little younger I was a pretty good looking dude but I can count on one hand the number of times girls have went out of their way to make their sexual interest known.
/r/seduction14/05/22 07:10 PM
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I get that many women will appreciate the compliment but not reciprocate, but in this study (whose finding have been replicated many times since) said that 56 percent of women actually agreed to go out on a date. Now how many of them will actually follow through on that? Idk maybe a fraction, but still if people’s success rate is much lower than 10 percent then that’s a little sus to me. You say you approach women all the time, next time you are out try this exact approach and tell us how it wor…
/r/seduction14/05/22 07:04 PM
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Try it the next time you are out. Just tell the girl you think she’s attractive or cute (don’t fawn over her though) and ask her if she’d like to go out. Maybe we’re overcomplicating things. I mean think about it, that’s probably the least cringe way you can ask a random woman out. If you approach her and start talking about baseball or whatever else right off the bat it could come off as forced and weird. https://www.sciencefriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/gender-differences-in-receptivity…
/r/seduction14/05/22 06:51 PM
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I mean in the Hatfield & Clark studies just normal college students saying “hey I find you attractive would you like to go out on a date?” to random women had a 50 percent success rate. If you do 15-20 approaches and have zero success then something is probably wrong.
/r/seduction14/05/22 06:30 PM
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Did you get any numbers?
/r/seduction14/05/22 01:36 PM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction14/05/22 02:04 AM
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There are also tons of videos online of police chases and people getting shot, but how common are those events. Idk if you are male or female. If you’re a woman, when you go out in public how often do men approach you? If you’re a man how often do you see men approaching women? Again, I’ve never seen it in my life. Also on your channel you describe yourself as “anti PUA”. What is the socially appropriate way of getting with girls? Approaching random women is a no-no. Who wants to tell their gran…
/r/seduction14/05/22 01:35 AM
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No they’re interpreting it just right. I am trying to get in their pants, in a friendly way of course though.
/r/seduction14/05/22 01:14 AM
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Women are strange in that way. I’ve fucked women where they were in ecstasy for over a half hour and then afterwards when I try to set stuff up they play those type of games. Only then when I am physically in their presence and “warm them up” do they then have sex with me again. Very weird.
/r/seduction14/05/22 01:07 AM
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I hear this a lot but almost all of my experiences with girls have come from at least some level of persistence. They probably had some level of interest but not super high hence why I had to be persistent.
/r/seduction14/05/22 01:02 AM
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Such a good question and I’ve struggled with this myself. I think most people who aren’t naturally super outgoing have. What I can say is that it’s more a skill than a particular technique. Practice being more outgoing and charismatic and you’ll get better with time. It takes practice and remember that social muscles are similar to physical muscles in your body. If you don’t exercise them, they atrophy.
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:35 PM
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Good question.
/r/seduction09/05/22 11:43 PM
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Problems with HR? Totally! Come on bro don’t be that oblivious. If you have Asperger’s or something like that then maybe you should go out of your way not to get involved with women at work. Plus work (depending on what the job is) is a place where many people find a long term relationship or even a spouse. Definitely not a good place for short term flings, and you shouldn’t be sexually forward with a woman at work unless you are sure she is attracted to you. Also, if you ask a woman from work o…
/r/seduction07/05/22 11:17 PM
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Stupid advice. Are relationships at work complicated? For sure, yet a ton of people meet their spouses at work. I was listening to a psychologist counsel a young man who was having dating troubles. This kid said he approached over 100 girls and got rejected every time. In response the psychologist made an interesting point which is that in his experience most successful relationships start “from a series of unplanned interactions”. Where else are you gonna have that besides work? Approaching ran…
/r/seduction07/05/22 08:33 PM
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Improve yourself and try to get with girls AT THE SAME TIME.
/r/seduction01/05/22 03:15 PM
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Hahah, yep, who knows. Girls like attention, they feed off of it. Be very careful with your time and attention, especially in the beginning.
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:50 PM
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You get used to it. Just keep trying. Adjust accordingly, but have persistence.
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:49 PM
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True, especially in the modern dating landscape with dating apps. Women and some men have tons of options.
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:47 PM
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Good point. With dating in particular it’s very difficult to discern if getting rejected a lot is something weird/“incorrect” you did, or if the girl just wasn’t interested to you/isn’t emotionally available atm.
/r/seduction21/04/22 11:45 PM
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What are some of the books, videos and dating coaches who have helped you the most? What were some of your key “aha” moments? For me I grew up with a lot of friends and a good family, but dating never came naturally to me. I was good looking and even a star athlete in high school, but still nothing. In adulthood I’ve had scattered success from trying very hard, putting myself in awkward situations, and being bold. Almost every time I’ve gotten with a women it was from being bold. My dating exper…
/r/seduction21/04/22 12:25 AM
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Average joes who are with beautiful and educated women? Shit, they should be teaching us
/r/seduction21/04/22 12:18 AM
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Big yes to you and SDdude81. Especially on dating apps. Competition is fierce. I was listening to an old Patrice O’Neal video the other day (recorded in 2006 before social media or dating apps) and he made an interesting point. He said that “dick means nothing to women” because it’s so easy for them to get. He also mentioned that this opens up the door for using non physical characteristics to appeal to them though (he was a fat slob and still supposedly had attractive girlfriends).
/r/seduction19/04/22 01:17 AM
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Old school, I like it. The vibes I get from in person communication, talking on the phone or FaceTiming are much better than from texting. I’ve read before that vocal tonality and body language make up over 90 percent of communication, and even though that probably overestimates it, sooo much is lost via text and it’s very easy to look weird. I’ve definitely talked myself out of a few relationships/hookups before via texting awkwardness and miscommunication.
/r/seduction03/04/22 11:08 PM
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Yeah if people are directly telling you that you look desperate, then you are most definitely acting needy which repels girls like nothing else.
/r/seduction03/04/22 01:38 AM
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Dating is a catch-22 like that. Even if you do care, you have to act like you don’t care. Even if there isn’t abundance, you need an abundance mentality. One motto I like is “want but not need”, and that’s how you should approach dating.
/r/seduction03/04/22 01:34 AM
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I mean yeah you’re a little late to the game, but you asking if it’s possible to recover is pretty laughable. My advice would be to do everything in parallel. Don’t just focus on your career or money, don’t focus just on self improvement, don’t just focus on trying to get with girls, do all of it at the same time. Dating is frustrating and you’re gonna have to see what works for you, and compare real work experiences to what you read in books and online. You’re still super young, but just start …
/r/seduction31/03/22 03:15 PM
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Yeah I have noticed that too. Women definitely seem more interested in person.
/r/seduction24/03/22 08:01 PM
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Not the best, but better than staying at home and jacking off to porn. You have to embrace fucking up.
/r/seduction23/02/22 02:07 AM
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I wish it were true, but it’s not. I and my friends have a lot of experience with which contradicts this. However, there’s an opportunity cost to pursuing women who have lukewarm initial interest and even if it’s rare it’s probably best to pursue women who have a very high degree of interest in you right from the start instead of spending time trying to invest in a relationship, thinking of witty texts and flirtatiously teasing with girls who start with low/moderate interest in the hopes that th…
/r/seduction23/02/22 02:03 AM
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Hey man it’s definitely possible. I’m in my 20’s right now and I have good social skills, pretty decent looking, and have a lot of hobbies and interests, but I still haven’t been able to have any success for some time. However, I am young and I hear the dating market gets a lot less competitive with age. Before my current dry spell most of the success I had came from being super bold and being very persistent, but idk if I have that in me anymore. Just seems inappropriate.
/r/seduction19/02/22 09:29 PM
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Never have what it takes (socially and looks wise) to get with women period. Unfortunately I am going through a dry spell myself.
/r/seduction19/02/22 09:17 PM
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Ahhh the age old question. It’s not easy, let’s get that out of the way. Remember that everybody - even brad Pitt - gets rejected at least sometimes. Women in particular have specific physical archetypes of men they are looking for and if you don’t match that then you could just be rejected right away, and that doesn’t necessarily mean you are undesirable to every woman. Several months ago I was talking to a handsome friend of mine and he was telling me about the seemingly countless numbers of w…
/r/seduction18/02/22 03:04 PM
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Good advice, but man it’s hard not to get attached to the outcome. It’s kind of like a catch-22 because I have my best successes when I am not attached to outcomes, let the conversation flow and have a flirtatious banter, but many times blow it by saying or doing something stupid. Afterwards I tell myself “you should’ve been more careful!”, but if I was careful I wouldn’t have been in that situation in the first place. What can I say, dating is difficult.
/r/seduction17/02/22 03:39 PM
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To me I don’t have any scale of 1-10 in my head. It’s just what I find attractive….maybe it’s close in practice, but I just don’t think about it in those terms. All about if I FEEL attracted to a girl.
/r/seduction10/02/22 05:00 PM
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Thanks I’m sure you are too (-:
/r/seduction06/02/22 04:21 PM
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I’ll also add that those redditors would be correct. Being bold could make a woman uncomfortable, but as a man who wants sex you have to make shit work somehow. We don’t live in rural India where your parents just arrange marriages and give you a wife. We are tasked with navigating a complicated dating landscape in a highly individualistic and atomized society, and for most guys if they want to get in a relationship they will have to make some bold moves.
/r/seduction05/02/22 04:16 PM
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Fair point. The grocery store is an extreme example. I think being sociable everywhere and starting conversations when convenient openers arise is a good start, but 99 percent of that time that doesn’t lead to anything. Most of my sexual experience that I’ve had with girls was the result of me being bold, and if I posted on Reddit “should I do this?” the majority of the responses would have suggested otherwise because it was socially impolite, too forward, might make a woman feel uncomfortable, …
/r/seduction05/02/22 04:11 PM
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True, but what place isn’t creepy to one extent or another? I always justify not approaching women because I say “ahhh no I will be creepy”, and I am right! It will be creepy, but now I am starting to realize that if I am not bolder and take significantly more risks then there is a good chance I will die alone, much less be married by the time I am 30, much less have abundance. Approaching women you don’t know is cringe, but jacking off to porn as a fully grown man instead of having a healthy re…
/r/seduction05/02/22 02:39 PM
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No easy fix, but there are a few ways of thinking about it which can help. For me, the fact that a girl rejected me is a shot to my ego, but at the end of the day you want a girl who has a high level of attraction for you, and if she felt somewhat lukewarm about you getting rejected quickly is actually a win because 1) you save time because you don’t have to get rejected later down the road, and 2) you will have to break through more barriers and do more work to get physical with her than if she…
/r/seduction03/02/22 12:53 AM
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I have had tinder for about 4 years, have had a couple dozen matches over that time, and I have never went on a date or had sex with a girl who I didn’t know in real life. There were a couple of girls I knew in real life who matched with me on tinder and we got together. With girls I matched with and didn’t previously know, most of them never responded.
/r/seduction31/01/22 05:57 PM
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Yeah I remember being cockblocked at a lot of college parties. Those girls can be cunts. If the girl isn’t drunk and she’s attracted to you, do your best to stand your ground.
/r/seduction30/01/22 11:36 PM
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Exactly. There are many valid excuses not to approach or even socializing with girls at virtually any place. “They don’t want to be bothered and be hit on by guys while they’re just going about their lives”, etc. HOWEVER, if you don’t find enough gumption to take some sort of action then there’s a good likelihood that you’ll be jacking off for the rest of your life and die alone. Which is cringier, talking to strangers, or jacking off at 45 and eventually dying alone?
/r/seduction30/01/22 03:47 PM
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All these guys say it’s terrible to hit on girls at the gym, but also say, dating apps are bad/don’t work/are toxic, bars and clubs are just where women go to have their egos inflated and attracts low value females, and of course that dating coworkers is a very bad idea. Let me ask, where is a good place - dare I say a place that is reddit sanctioned - to meet women?
/r/seduction18/09/21 03:09 PM
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Was such a long time ago that I in some ways still feel like a virgin. I remember that in middle and high school competition was stiff and if I was gonna get into a relationship it would have inevitably led to drama, so I just jacked off to porn until I was 18 or 19 to avoid that. Never any interest from girls in me even though I was a sports star, but I didn’t make any effort. At around that age I decided that I wasn’t going to be a virgin anymore and I was going to at least experience somethin…
/r/seduction05/09/21 03:02 AM
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I’m in the same position. Same age, pretty good looking, in very good shape, good social skills and ability to flirt (at least from my perspective lol), yet I haven’t had any success for the last four years, and before that little success which was few and far between. Never had a girlfriend though, just sex a handful of times. A lot of my friends and family are perplexed by my situation, and I am too. So many times I’ll be vibing with a girl, throw some witty jokes in which might be sexually su…
/r/seduction05/09/21 02:45 AM
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