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Do the girls feel comfortable around him and open up because he doesnt try it on with them? I think this. I think youre seeing some real genuine inter-gender friendships which a lot of people on this sub seem to think is impossible or bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:07 PM
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Single moms don’t create violent men, systemic poverty does. Single moms happen when there is shit sex education and little access to birth control, contraceptives, etc. Young couples are unprepared and unable to provide their children with good education and opportunities, perpetuation the cycle of poverty and disenfranchisement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:21 PM
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I think I could get people on this sub to agree to very contrasting things based on priming and w/e I could tell them that men want to “spread the seed” or whatever, that men by nature want as many sexual partners as possible, and in turn are more likely to cheat I could also tell them that women are hypergamous and want to climb the ladder to the best partner possible and to theyre more likely to cheat And I bet red pill people would agree with both
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:26 PM
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What about in relationships that aren’t marriages? Kids are getting married less and less these days, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:22 PM
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I mean, your evidence regarding Elon Musk is pure anecdote. I clicked it expecting a study and saw an article about a single instance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 05:21 PM
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What’s stopping a man from cheating, then, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:46 PM
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Why so? We all work full time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:02 PM
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I think there is. And I think it says more about the person gatekeeping than whatever topic they are trying to regulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:00 PM
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I think it would be very difficult to develop emotional closeness and intimacy. If you want to have a partner that also functions as a best friend that just “gets you” I think it would be difficult to achieve that from 90 Day Fiancé type relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:19 PM
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Mostly switch games, Mario, tetris, BOTW, horror survival games, animal crossing. I made some of them play Pokémon Go to have friends to get gifts from. Keep in mind this is across like 4-5 roommates over the years. On played exclusively BOTW. One played mostly star dew. Another only GTA and horror. Current mostly plays animal crossing, tetris, and Mario universe games. None of my roommates have ever been into mobile games. Your reply is very gate-keeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:06 PM
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I think Gen Z is waaaaay more fed up with gender roles than any previous generation. They’re just fucking chill
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:29 PM
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Based on my roommates over the years: mostly playing video games, watering plants, and making some form of art
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:26 PM
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It’s generally safer for men to walk the streets, men generally make more money for the same work, many esteemed industries are male dominated and women/POC generally need to work harder to achieve the same levels of success and wealth as men. Men and women are valued for their appearance in different ways which benefit both, but since we’re talking about men’s easier-ness, I find it interesting that if an attractive man holds a high up position people will assume that he earned it, but if an at…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:45 PM
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/s ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:39 AM
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Red pill gets men laid in the same way MLM makes ppl money
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:55 PM
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Anecdotes are the lifeline of this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:52 PM
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I’m not sure about that. We really do grow up having the idea ingrained into us that a great deal of our identity is whether or not we’re getting laid and the status of our partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 01:50 PM
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I don’t think men are being met with disdain because they want women seem perceive as the same level of attractiveness, they’re being met with disdain because they’re seeing men and women as on a scale of attractiveness and implying that some women are too ugly to date. I have never seen a man be chastised for wanting to date someone similar to him, I’ve never seen a woman sneer at a man for wanting to date his looksmatch I have, however, seen people like Chris Chan only go for extremely attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:05 PM
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I was thinking it may be a sign of being on the autism spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:58 PM
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i think generalizations say more about the person making them than the people they are generalizing. generalizing/stereotyping give way to confirmation bias. a slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:16 AM
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Fr. “sex is inherently a power dynamic for me, so the entire world must also operate the same way!”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:56 PM
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OP and the ppl he hooks up with need some serious counseling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:58 PM
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I find that biological differences (strength, emotions) are grey enough of areas that making sweeping judgements is detrimental. You can say men are generally more aggressive than women, but it’s not something that reflects the day to day life for many. And so on. Also, many supposed differences are viewed through the lenses of ones own society, which makes it difficult to see biological differences in an unbiased way. One may point to the fact that western men prefer hairless women either becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:55 PM
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I sorta feel like you’re just seeing what you want to see in this. How tf can any of us pretend to know what’s going on in their lives based off of tabloids and memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:44 PM
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Finally a comment that reflects reality OP is trying to attract people based on his own appearance, ie superficial people, and is saddened to find that superficial people have weird standards for looks and appearance. IMO. The kind of people for whom “gym bod” is a make or break aren’t going to be good people to interact with, and OP will return with the idea more firmly cemented that “all women are like that” or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:09 PM
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Hell, I feel like lots of men say this about their partners as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:05 PM
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Looking to a relationship for happiness is like having kids to make yourself happy. Not gonna work. Rather, when two people are happy on their own, a relationship can be a great way to share each other’s happiness. Happiness has to be a factor in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:28 PM
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being super skinny seems like a super grotesque and outrageous idea to you. Looks, especially pertaining to body weight, seem to be very important to you. You can accept yourself and also work out. You can accept yourself and not work out. I think you should explore why you had such a reaction to what I said. I find my relationship struggling when I start not accepting myself. When I start beating myself up over insecurities, my relationship suffers. Same with my girlfriend. Validation, like ang…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:54 PM
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Relying on external sources for validation will only lead to loneliness. Doesn’t matter the gender. Validation from ppl you’re attracted to only lasts so long and leaves you needing even more. Practice accepting yourself and knowing that you are enough as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:46 PM
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I think it’s helpful. Red Pill encourages its users to pretend they’re someone they aren’t, which leads to inevitable heartbreak and anger IMO. It’s important to note that blue pill is exclusively a place to critique and satire Red Pill, so there won’t be any dating advise there. I assume by blue pill you mean “feminist minded,” which again doesn’t point to any dating advise. Feminism, after all, isn’t really concerned with getting men laid. But I do think it’s helpful. Feminism (most of the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:24 PM
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I don’t think ppl who say “men are broke. How pathetic” would identify as feminist
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/21 01:26 PM
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Do ppl really believe this is how feminists think? Edit: feminism is all about knocking down gender roles. The idea that women are fragile little things that can’t do harm is a gender role that manifests itself in ppl laughing off harassment from women. You all agree with feminism but are so wrapped up in your echo chamber and stereotypes you’ll never realize it Show this to any self proclaimed feminist and I guarantee they’ll say it’s fucked.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/21 01:12 PM
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Ppl only care to talk about specifically male homelessness when female homelessness is brought up. If you are one of those people, congrats you’re more preoccupied with being pissed at women than caring about problems that affect men
/r/PussyPassDenied13/01/21 03:16 PM
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idunno that it "doesnt matter" but i have seen that sentiment echoed and probably said it myself at some point in the past. i think now that people use nature as a crutch to explain their own and other's shallowness. Cheating isnt indicative of poor integrity but, according to some, is evidence that men subconsciously want to impregnate as many partners as possible and that women want to find a mate that can provide. Etc. People are absolutely influenced by subconscious instinct but I find it fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 07:45 PM
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every single one of my female friends play instruments, read, play video games, and like going to bars you need to get outside brother
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:58 AM
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I believe the attraction to risk is a by-product of gender roles in our society, not a “biological drive.” Also, If women prefer less violent men for long term relationships, doesn’t that defy your “women prefer assholes” claim? Some men say “women go for assholes” as a way to ignore their own shortcomings and noes not specify ONS/LTR. Your link does not negate this idea and even supports that non-asshole men are preferred for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:00 PM
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I think it’s always been a little more conservative as there seem to be more RP leaning people. I personally think the conservative demographics are all shrinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:29 PM
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It’s like how a small group of men say that women go for assholes. Both situations are gender equivalents. People have awful personalities and/or only go for shitty people and have a bad time and they think “it must be the men that are wrong. Men just don’t want to commit.” Or “It’s the women that are wrong, they just go for assholes”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:20 PM
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ask her to make one herself and another for me, i cant have my masculinity threatened. she knows what she's doing. she's not really hungry, she's really trying to gauge my masculinity so she feels more alright about talking to other dudes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 10:20 PM
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Ppl get pissed when women joke about vaginas and laugh when Male comedians joke about dicks, and then pretend they aren’t really just sexist
/r/PussyPassDenied29/11/19 05:40 PM
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Do you really think 50% of the population isn’t funny? Isn’t it more likely that people have a learned bias against women and to be annoyed when they attempt to “act like men” or enter male spaces?
/r/PussyPassDenied29/11/19 05:39 PM
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I think your mindset is what’s leading to men having higher suicide rates. Men and women both feel anxiety, sadness, loss, happiness. Women have better support systems with friends while men have not so much. Men are disposable and told that processing emotions is somehow a detriment to them. Then people are surprised when men kill themselves or express themselves in the only way society sees acceptable: aggression
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:02 PM
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Most people here attribute single moms to “chads” who are spinning plates or whatever. Some also have a mindset of “single moms do it to themselves by hooking up with obviously noncommittal men” This thread is the first time I’ve seen people here suggest that the deadbeat dads may be at fault
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 04:01 PM
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Feminists are doing it. You just have your blinders on and refuse to see it. Body positivity is an enormous part of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 09:51 PM
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Not shaming people for their genitals and body size/shape is just....feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 09:38 PM
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A place of white picket fences, babies swaddled in pastel colors and two proud families at a white wedding. this is not the image i get of bluepillers i feel like blue pillers reject that stereotypical gendered shit. that's why they hate red pill so much blue pillers call to mind, for me, the image of feminist-minded people that reject gender norms and split the bill at the bar. they both work and come home and split the household chores. they dont mind if the other person goes out to a bar with…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 02:59 PM
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Another thread in which people bend over backwards trying to comprehend the simple fact that women are not all the same and that there will be variances in the behavior of half the population
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 10:00 PM
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I’m afraid she would see that weak side of me and no longer be sexually attracted to me. maybe she wont, maybe she'll be supportive of you seeking help and your life will improve. wouldnt that be great? people that arent supportive of their partner's struggles arent worth dating. you deserve help and happiness OP, and you deserve someone who is on your team 100%. your first priority is your own happiness and having a supportive partner is pretty tied into that imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:44 PM
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having a partner with depression can be a tough thing. but telling people with depression to bottle it up and pretend they aren't sad is just about the worst advice you can ever give to someone with depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:39 PM
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I don’t think anything could, I hope I would be mature enough to just think “wow she’s an asshole” instead of letting the situation expose a deep down resentment towards women everywhere If I were in a dead bedroom and counseling didn’t work I would break up. Not the kinda relationship I want. I would probably turn red pill if they all decided “U know what, maybe this is a little too toxic” and dropped all the shit bits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:36 PM
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we can ease up, tell whatever off-color unfunny jokes pop in our heads, shit with the door open, and belch with abandon find someone who doesnt mind this shit. women like that exist. i feel weird pooping with the door open so i can't relate to that, but being able to tell any dumbass joke that i think of without her caring is a trait of my relationship that i wouldn't currently trade for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 11:13 PM
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thoughts WANT to come out, which means it actually takes effort NOT to express them not exactly. some people have difficulty talking about their thoughts and find it easier to just keep it pinned inside. for some people it takes extra effort to tell their thoughts than otherwise. Which is coincidentally the time when the woman becomes the most bitchy and the least sexual, and relationship quality begins deteriorating. And the only false thing about the last sentence is the word "coincidentally" …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 11:07 PM
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people that put so much importance on height/weight are probably not pleasant people to date anyway. consider it a "im an asshole" red flag and be glad you dodged a bullet. but yeh, women that only wanna date tall guys but are offended when men only wanna date skinny women are just as hypocritical as men with weight preferences but are offended at women's height preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:24 PM
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young person had the opportunity to date a rich celebrity. would she be into him if he was a no-name working as a plumber? would he date her if she had small boobs and a facial deformity? probably not. ​ young women do typically see older sexually aggressive men as creepy. this woman obviously doesnt see this older man as creepy. doesnt invalidate or confirm anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:21 PM
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>The WIFE of a CEO is arguably more privileged than than the CEO. thats a pretty laughably small demographic to draw any sweeping gender conclusions from. anyway, nothing wrong or oppressive about choosing to be a caretaker and housewife. women didn't really have the choice until relatively recently which is a big point for you all to gloss over. even now people get pretty angry at women for leaving the "house caretaker" space. lots of red pill dudes here even believe that a woman's place is in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 12:16 AM
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Insecurity is weakness. It’s emotional and mental impairment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:49 PM
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sorta like how extreme feminist women are often female versions of the men they criticize
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 01:39 AM
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incels and red pillers both allude to women preferring "bbc" and cucking their boyfriends and the idea of alphas vs betas i think incels are honestly red-pill minded but even more nihilistic ​
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 12:12 AM
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i want men to be able to show emotion and not be called "pussy's" for crying (as red pillers do) but i disagree politically with anti-feminism. you all are trying really hard not to understand. red pill members here are quick to scold men for showing weakness. they're quick to tear men down for asking for help. they think its unmasculine. red pillers are perpetuating the stereotypes that contribute to male depression. seriously disturbing and sad to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:50 PM
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RP is a bubble. life is less complex when all men are quantized into two groups of alphas/betas, women are all hypergamous sluts, etc its easier to deal with rejection when you say "AWALT" rather than "people are complex and unique" RP is exclusively black and white thinking. black and white thinking is a coping mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 05:26 PM
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burden of responsibility for this entire civilization if only there was some word for the overwhelming and degrading level of toxic standards we put on men!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:37 AM
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nothing is inherently wrong with men, we're just raised to be sexually aggressive robots who bottle up our emotions and are surprised when we experience depression and dissatisfaction with life. must be taught out of them through shaming, through therapy, through social ostracization, through explicit exclusion. therapy's great and a useful, powerful tool everyone would benefit from. i think you're projecting the other things tho. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:36 AM
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they're more making the point that toxic masculinity leads to a trend of men not being able to deal with their emotions and being treated with disposability, leading to (surprise) depression and suicide. lots of people here pointing out that women are often the ones punishing men for being vulnerable. no shit. women perpetuate this too. its a societal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:33 AM
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men created the very system that doesnt give men enough help
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:31 AM
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also why men are assumed to be less able caretakers and disregarded when it comes to raising their own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 12:30 AM
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i think men that fight to the death or sex are caught up in some "honor" cultural traditions. sex isnt worth dying for. those people that think "men need sex to feel fulfilled" will still find themselves feeling the same once sex is part of their lives. telling someong "sex is important" or "sex isnt important" are both objectively incorrect in the same way its objectively incorrect to say "red hot chilli peppers are the best band in history" or "red hot chilli peppers are the worst band in hist…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 11:51 PM
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A woman who beats her husband is retaliating to the past sins of his patriarchal fathers and is lashing out at the patriarchal men of today no, a woman who beats her husband is an abusive piece of shit and you will be hard pressed to find any feminist that disagrees with me A woman who kills her kid can always blame it on the man i can find an example of a man killing his kids and pleading insanity if you'd like. unless you have evidence of women being able to kill kids being a trend? i think yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:25 PM
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"women can get laid easily" isnt contradicting to feminism. "young women are attractive" isnt contradicting feminism. i swear, saying "sorry feminists, but....." is just a way to get clicks and get your reader to agree with you preemptively
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:09 PM
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why can't women act like the hivemind they are and collectively decide to disown harmful gender roles in one fell swoop?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 03:41 PM
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its possible to support gender equality while also supporting religious liberty. i dont want muslims or christians to be discriminated against but i think they're ideas about women being inferior is harmful and toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:27 PM
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Being louder and more annoying about something won't get him anywhere or win him any favors. i think it does. being louder is usually associated with masculinity. its also something men do to be intimidating. its just when women do masculine things they're seen as annoying. i think people liked trump so much 'cause he was the loudest person in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 09:00 PM
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i think "men being responsible for their kids that arent aborted" and "women being responsible for kids they become pregnant with" is a false equivalence
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 11:42 PM
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you dont consent to being a father. its like consenting to having a cold or being colorblind. pregnancy is a medical thing that happens. statically she is either lying about taking it or she is being totally reckless ahhh gonna hafta source that joe. seems like a stat you hear on /r/mensrights but nowhere else. you decide that pregnancy = false pretense which is pretty absurd an im surprised that people are upvoting that. ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 11:36 PM
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dont marry someone you're incompatible with. that's what dating is for. unfortunately this is easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 06:38 PM
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every relationship is different but this spreadsheet feels like something you'd get from your boss (with different subject matter of course) than your partner. him spending 6 weeks on this hints at him building up resentment and wanting an "a-ha! im right!" moment than a good relationship with his wife. he couldve made a spreadsheet for himself and say in person "hey, we've only had sex this many times in 6 weeks and this isn't what I want in a relationship" instead of attaching it to an email t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 06:35 PM
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i feel like men that are preoccupied with masculinity are more repulsive to women than feminine men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:56 PM
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as it tells boys not to be men it tells boys and men to use and pay attention to consent and confront their bias. hardly telling them not to be men gender binary is a social construct not harmful. maybe uncomfortable to some but not harmful. then they grow up and find that the majority of women only want masculine men and actively enforce gender binaries "most people partake in traditional gender roles" doesnt mean feminism is harmful or false. i think you just hate feminism. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 08:54 PM
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obviously she's cancelling out of jealousy. her mom missing? assuming she didnt make that up, that's her own problem, not yours. double down and hang out with another girl asap, dread it up. /s nah legit tho, you're making an issue out of nothing and plans change sometimes, if flakiness is enough of a problem from her youre allowed to break up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 07:51 PM
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when they couldnt vote or hold office, when they werent allowed to be educated....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 04:54 AM
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yes. some people are too thirsty tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 04:03 PM
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If you don't want to be monogamous, it's a recipe for disaster. lots of couples have open relationships and are fine. it take a level of communication most people arent used to, let alone red pillers. it also take a relationship in which both partners are very secure with themselves and their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 08:19 PM
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how do you know that person cheats? lol interesting that the person interested in cheating says all women cheat. i think that's textbook example of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 08:16 PM
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idunno, i dont care what my partner makes, i personally dont know what she makes. we split rent down the middle but we each only pay for ourselves when we go out unless one of us is feeling generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:04 AM
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that should be legal. flashing their vaginas to people should be illegal tho. that's a better equivalence to dick flashing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:02 PM
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i definitely think most people think like that. hell its in the bible that women are lesser to their husbands, which explains why this mentality is prevalent in conservative areas. breaks my heart that people think like that 'cause its a toxic way to live and ppl that honestly believe they are lesser to their partner or better than their partner need the fuck out of therapy. if you're a woman you get to have the pleasant comfort of not having to be in control and making all decisions, if you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:11 PM
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just because responsibilities waver over time and abilities are different doesnt mean the two partners arent equal. maybe in my head "equal=equally valuable"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:07 PM
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given the current housing market and wages, i think youngsters are more likely to both be professionals in their relationships. takes two incomes now to live as well as one income from the 80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:05 PM
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Feminism was never about "rights" or "freedom". Feminism is, was, and always has been about sex, and sex is about power ah yes, wanting access to women's healthcare is a huge sexual power grab ​
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:01 PM
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the partner is often responsible for managing Needy Person's emotions imo. Needy People cant emotionally deal with the world and need their partner to hold them up. this is all the time, not just a rough patch. needy people need constant reassurance that partner is not cheating on them or losing interest. vulnerable person is simply truthful about their feelings. they dont go out of their way to hide when they're upset and they're upset when called for. they dont need constant reassurance about …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:17 PM
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lol, i feel like theres a pikachu meme in there somewhere about guy asking for an open relationship and being surprised when they function as an open relationship they went headfirst into the deep end of an open relationship with unclear boundaries and communication. can confirm guy is an idiot. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 07:01 PM
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masculinity is just a socially constructed aesthetic that changes with time but revolving around being physically strong. even then, men can easily be seen as very attractive without being very masculine. honestly i think masculinity is like makeup for women. its something men strive for to better their social placement, but in the end is mostly only noticed by other guys. also, everyone seems to have their own definition of "masculinity" which is interesting to me. its also interesting tome tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 02:56 PM
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because, i've heard, most women have experiences with men getting real pissed off when their sexual advances are rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 04:17 PM
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i think studies show that women tend to prefer men one head taller than them. i think women generally want to feel small in comparison to their dude. but its only general. i dont think it matters as much to a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 06:14 PM
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isnt the Red Pill shtick that women, because of hypergamy, are incapable of having LTRs while men are the only ones that can truly commit? honestly probably depends on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 06:12 PM
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idunno, i have a hard time believing that we're monogamous purely out of religious tradition. there must be some sort of benefit, whether for child-raising or regarding the larger community aspect, that would have kept it around for so many centuries and thru so many cultures. havent read much about it tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 06:11 PM
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you're confusing Nice Guytm with guys that are literally nice. Nice GuysTM become aggressive when rejected, complain about women all being the same, have oceans of pent up angry misogyny flowing in their brains, and see relationships as transactional (if I'm nice enough, surely someone will be my girlfriend!) some women want aggressive men, some women want calm and collected men, some want a mix. as soon as you start thinking of half the population as a monolith you'll start coming up with circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 02:36 PM
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No-one ever tried to make hypergamy a punishable offense. Can you imagine it? NO-ONE. EVER. Not even the most die-hard feminists in existence. to be fair, only a fringe internet community thinks it exists. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 03:24 PM
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Do you deny the hard scientific conclusions that people in africa will generally agree with people from the west on which people are attractive or unattractive? the fact that attractive facial symmetry generally exists doesnt change the fact that mainstream attractiveness changes huge amounts from culture to culture and decade to decade. what blue pill talking points are you trying to refute? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:31 PM
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there was some article as some point of women in africa laughing at white men and calling them babies for thinking boobs were sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:29 PM
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Contrary to common assumption, adults and children agree about who is and is not attractive, both within and across ethnicity and cultures. Instead, but you're taking this and making huge leaps. attractiveness according to boob size, hair, muscle mass, etc have changed dramatically across cultures over time ppl in africa laugh at the west for thinking boobs are sexy at all, ppl in 2018 laugh at ppl in 1500 because they thought chubby women with small boobs were top tier sexy (edit: reading back …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:37 PM
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i think men are more likely to be feminist when they're content with their sex life and goals. only when they feel insecure do they become bitter and blame feminism on perpetuating the 80/20 rule and other such bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:18 AM
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men "built" society. men invented the male disposability that has been prevalent in patriarchal society. you think men being violent will change the stereotype that men are aggressive and meant for dangerous physical labor? or that violence will convince people that lonely boys deserve mates? nah, itll just show people "men are as shitty as we always thought" and push alt-right men farther to the right
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:11 AM
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even with all that, people go to shows to get drunk, have fun, and meet people OP doesnt need to do much different. just dont be an asshole. maybe he could hold off from wearing polo shirts or khakies if he was gonna, some plaid shirts and jeans are enough to "fit in" but ppl are generally pretty accepting at those places there, thankfully, is very low tolerance for asshole behavior, so shit like "negging" and similar red pill tactics wont work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:09 PM
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helltotheno
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 06:56 PM
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they literally cant comprehend doing something without the purpose of getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 04:29 PM
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i know its easy to look at literally anything and turn it into "feminism is actually doing a disservice to women" feminism isnt trying to take agency away from fathers. "destroying the nuclear family" means to destroy the idea that women must be caretakers and men must be providers, gender roles that also perpetuate the idea that men are disposable wallets. so you should be happy to do away with the nuclear family as well. i know its easy to see "single mothers" and assume they divorced their hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 08:11 PM
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women are seen as less intimidating than men due to patriarchal gender roles. that's why situations never turn out the same when genders are reversed. something that feminists forget often enough as well. thats also why women are able to write songs about "dug my key into the side of his pretty little souped up four wheel drive" that's literally a song about domestic violence. women are seen as unintimidating and not able to commit violence so men arent usually afraid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:54 PM
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not true. i dont think anyone hates talking about or admitting that. domestic violence is domestic violence. if anything feminism has given people more tools to be able to realize they or their friend are in abusive relationships. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:49 PM
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republicans arent even trying to hide the fact that they vote out of spite rather than for a good leader
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:58 AM
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if racists dont mind being called racist then why would it affect anything? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 10:27 PM
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she's irrelevant tho cause she's not trans?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:36 PM
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both genders benefit and suffer from gender stereotyping. men are taken more seriously in professional settings, dont have to worry so much about being sexually assaulted, dont need to wonder if aspects of healthcare will be legal in the near future.... i do see how people are much nicer to my gf and friends that are girls on the street and such. but i also notice how theres an air of condescending tones as well. people are nicer to women for the same reasons they take men more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:33 PM
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why do you care so much about a stranger from over the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:11 PM
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some men seem to think that women are there to look pretty for them or that women are there to brighten their day. im sure this dude wouldnt have given the same note to a 60 year old man that wasnt smiling. ​ so yes, it is a symptom of oppression. just cause it pisses you off doesnt make it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:10 PM
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ahaha what a load of bullshit. women had to fight for their right to participate and be represented in society. as did people of color. white men participated in society with one hand while holding everyone else down with the other hand. imagine where we would be had white men allowed participation from all demographics and didnt fuck us over with the whole "dark ages" part of history. also you seem to conveniently be forgetting all the inventions and contributions to society women and people of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:30 PM
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lol, england never had slaves but they did colonize and exploit the rest of the world in equally violent and oppressive ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:27 PM
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i think it totally does "Men make most of the money while women spend the most like the fucking leeches they are" this post is violent incoherent hate-speech and its honestly fucking disturbing that its being upvoted so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:26 PM
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im a dude, dude im not convinced that men were so busy "inventing things and moving the economy" that the gender stereotype of women cooking and cleaning is justified. i think you in fact just validated the idea that women were oppressed into not participating in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:51 PM
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someone on the internet said something wrong! must be because they're a woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:42 PM
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if someone complains that our culture doesnt take male suicide seriously enough and at the same time jokes around about women committing suicide, i dont think that person actually gives a shit about suicide and is more interested in finding ways to criticize women. hypothetically, of course ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:38 PM
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how so? because therapists "cant know what an incel is going through" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:20 PM
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they absolutely have dysmorphia. agree 100%. at least a solid chunk of them. they cant be reasoned out of this, they desperately need therapy to heal this actual mental illness they likely suffer from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:18 PM
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Men: Captain of the household! Source of logic! Not bothered by pesky womanly emotions and feels! Built the economy without any help! Also men: need help cooking spaghetti and doing their laundry
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:12 PM
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men and women both grow up being told that certain traits are manly. some of these traits are toxic. i woudnt say male behavior is dictated by women but moreso filling expectations imposed on them by parents, media, peers, and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:19 PM
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its also sad that they cant comprehend just being friends with someone of the opposite sex. they're really missing out on life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 02:15 PM
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nah, men just want support that doesnt revolve around imagined superiority and thinking your entire identity relies on your genitalia
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 03:20 AM
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because one potential troll posted on there talking about wanting to cut off their dick everyone responded urging the person to seek help but everyone in this thread likes to ignore that part ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 03:18 AM
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every gender benefits and suffers from patriarchy in different respects. most of these stem from the BS idea that women are all delicate lil' creatures who cant do any wrong. which feminism and Red Pill both coincidentally want to do away with. also, is it surprising that women have more focus in healthcare? aside from the fact that some necessary parts of women's healthcare (Access to abortion, BC, etc) are actively on the line, women literally give birth. of course healthcare wont be equal. so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:16 PM
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you'd be surprised the amount of people in this sub that dont understand basic concepts of consent
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 05:54 PM
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if someone withdraws consent at any point and you ignore them you are committing sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 05:49 PM
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if a dude were to catcall other dudes on the street he'd probably get punched. you can try to catcall women, but by 2018 you should understand that not all women will respond positively and you will have consequences. you dont get to decide what other people consider predatory or offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 05:25 PM
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congrats you've just committed sexual assault!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 05:20 PM
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No one ever protested the dudes on Borat who said women should be slaves. Men's Right's activists are bankrupt!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:29 PM
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idunno, authoritarian christian ideals demonizing specific stereotypes propelled by fake news propaganda and control of media seems like the conservative/Fox news shtick these days
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:22 PM
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i mean, red pillers are the ones that think problems in relationships can be fixed by passive aggressively liking other women's pictures on facebook and texting friends that are girls (dread game) like passive aggressive 12 year olds. thats like one step away from posting ambiguous depressing song lyrics as your facebook status for attention. ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:51 PM
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and you're just bursting with productive dialogue i think men are just selfish assholes who have to be reminded to treat other human beings like human beings the default is to disrespect and ignore women Now That's What I Call "Patriarchal Gender Roles" after reading your post im convinced that Red Pill subreddit is your only window to the world. why else do you think 50% of the population are mindless zombies and that feminist men are all low T cucks? the world isnt like that and reality doesnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:48 PM
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the good thing is that "good-looking" means something different to everyone. even the mainstream definition of good-looking is pretty diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:34 PM
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anything examples in particular? imagine how much more would have been accomplished if women and people of color were allowed to participate. imo society has been greatly held back by only allowing men to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:31 PM
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say your sibling needs a kidney to survive some horrible accident or disease. no one can force you to give your kidney. it just wouldnt be right to force you to undergo that procedure. abortion is the same idea. no one can force someone to have a pregnancy. the right to terminate is very necessary for the same reasons your right to not donate a kidney exists. there are many more legit reasons to abort beyond rape or medical reasons. if you're so against abortion, surely you are also as supportiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 02:14 PM
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are you not red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 01:59 PM
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i didnt realize red pillers were so conservative about abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 12:54 AM
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same, but do you have any examples of violent feminist subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 12:52 AM
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showing vulnerability to a partner or even a friend is to also show that you trust them which can be a very valuable thing. people value it differently. some women are turned off by it (toxic femininity imo), some men are punished for showing it, and some people value healthy amounts in a relationship. its possible and worthwhile to have a healthy amount. everyone's human. that being said, being too vulnerable can become needy and one-sided. personally, i want to help people if they need help bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 03:24 PM
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the idea of saying "all men are bad and all dicks are bad" says "anyone with a dick is a man and bad" its transphobic. it ignores the fact that just because someone has a dick doesnt necessarily mean they're a man. it shows how transphobic some feminists are while propping themselves up as inclusive. its really not as hard to understand as you and /u/debatesnotbans are making it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 01:42 PM
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saying anyone with a dick is bad is also inadvertently calling trans women bad and ignoring the fact that trans women exist its also body shaming imo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 05:43 PM
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any time one "side" has a notion for which a reversed gender equivalent exists for the other side is a projection for example: feminists and manosphere-ists both see the opposite gender as bursting with privilege, free rides, easy living both sides see the sexuality of the other as something they can flaunt; men think women ride the cc and can get laid with ease, feminists see men as having their sexuality coddled to and embraced by society both sides seem to see the opposite gender's existence …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 03:23 PM
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or because the parents made sure they aborted I don't know. i feel like catholic schools are some of the most pro-life cultures out there then again, people tend to be pro-life until they're involved in an unplanned pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 02:41 PM
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You will notice that the people who have that hopeless look on their face and that insecure feeling of discontent are ALL men. In contrast when you look at the women you see them happy, smiling, exuberant, enjoying themselves, shiny happy girls holding hands. i think you need to talk to someone about why you think 100% of men and women "look" like they feel those ways. i seriously think youre projecting your own feelings and expectations onto people. i think its interesting that radical feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:03 PM
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Look, most women have been in a situation where they cared more about a casual relationship than a man has i think many would argue that most men have cared more about a relationship with a woman that still wanted to ride the "cc"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 06:55 PM
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i have a feeling everyone here learned about the body acceptance movement purely from My Big Fat Fabulous Life. the movement doesnt have anything to do with attraction. men aren't victims to "much less desirable options" and women arent losing concentration on the "primal foundation of sexual attraction." the movement is about people not being angry at the sight of an overweight person (call to mind /r/FatPeopleHate) and better representation of body types in media. for the last few decades the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 05:52 PM
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its honestly interesting and forces me to analyze myself and others and why we think the way we do. gender, masculinity/femininity, and relationships are very interesting to me. its different from gawking at flat-earth forums (which is fun) in that Red Pill articles reflect struggles that everyone in and out of relationships endure: growing old, waning attractiveness, dealing with loneliness, self improvement, etc. it just takes these struggles and SMASHES them into traditional gender roles. ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 08:26 PM
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work out, practice good hygiene, live your best life with or without a partner, relationships work best when partners are sharing in each other's happiness rather than struggling to fill some power dynamic, be genuine and upfront rather than passive aggressive, recognize your own and your partner's wants and needs, anger is baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 01:47 PM
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aside from the fact that you're projecting this " "I'm awesome and I have a fantastic life so stop whining you total piece of shit" mentality onto us, if Blue Pill lives actually were awesome and successful, shouldnt they be the ones to get advice from?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 01:43 PM
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i dont think MeToo happened because men made the first move at the wrong time or in the wrong way. MeToo happened because there is a prevalent history of men sexually assaulting women to no consequence. that being said, the same stereotypes that say "hurr durr men hafta make the first move" also say "men sexually assault women because that's just how men are" i agree with your concluding point in that, as gender roles continue to dissolve, men and women will see each other as equals, not as some…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 03:52 PM
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i can think of three tactics off the top of my head (dread, negging, LMR) that are literally textbook examples of abuse or sexual assault. but i guess that's not what youre asking i dont deny that red pill dudes get laid, i just think its fundamentally abusive and toxic and perpetuates the worst things about masculinity ​
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 01:27 PM
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a) she needs to be alright with not having as much as as she wants b) he needs to be alright with an open relationship c) break up ​
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 06:57 PM
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its red pill without the passive aggression of dread game/negging and the misogyny of captain/first-mate mentality ​
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 03:01 PM
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"real man" is an arbitrary unit of measurement of the worth of men that changes with culture and the person speaking it is sometimes used to describe honorable traits, ignoring the fact that women can have those same honorable traits it's a misleading ever-changing social construct at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 03:12 PM
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i think its questions like these that make blue pill people not care to take this sub very seriously sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 01:29 PM
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why disgusting? i'd imagine a dude complaining about how easy women have it is about as attractive as a woman constantly complaining about how shitty and entitled dudes are i think everyone encounters struggles due to their gender and some people blame it on the other gender to bandage their own insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 11:22 PM
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heroism/courageousness have very little to do with attraction for me. its a personality trait that i don't really think about. same with a dude, if i find that someone's a firefighter or something ill think "wow, good for them, i could never do that" and my attraction to them is p much the same
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 05:08 PM
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4 years, idunno we tend to think the same way about most things and so fighting has never been an issue. we've each struggled with our post-grad lives and jobs and stuff (we were even homeless once) which stressed the relationship but always came out on the other side. its important to be open and clear about your own needs and your partners needs but yeh we also love most of the same things and have similar hobbies and mostly identical friend groups, also are able to be on our own when need be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 08:48 PM
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idk the figure but most (or at least a good chunk?) women dont climax from PIV sex. that combined with the fact that most men probably dont know much about sex organs different from their own
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 08:31 PM
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After all, talking (repeatedly) about the lack of sex in a marriage with your spouse suddenly makes her hot and aroused, like she's never been before. Problem Solved! lol, y'all cant even comprehend the point of communication. its not to make anyone turned on, its to locate and solve the problem, solving may mean changing behavior, therapy, or breaking up. dont be in a relationship with someone who thinks communication is unattractive. it'll only end in misery and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 05:50 PM
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maybe rather than unraveling this could mark the turning point for people to start giving shits about male victims instead of making "niiice" jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 02:02 PM
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what would unraveling mean? that people are saying "oh shit guess sexual assault on minors wasnt that big of a deal this whole time" ? this is an opportunity to show that, as MeToo showed us, victims of assault are often silenced or not believed. especially male victims. remember terry crews?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 10:16 PM
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i'd tell her that not everything you read on the internet is true, she can pursue her PhD while also trying to have a relationship, that banking on finding some dude to support her is a risk to her own happiness if she realized that her passion was to raise kids and she wanted to spend her life being a mom, i'd tell her that's great and more power to her. but she doesnt have to abandon her professional career for that any more than a man has to quit his job to be a dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 08:45 PM
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The manosphere (and many women as well) claim that women love to be dominated and put in their place. i think you should take a break from the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 05:21 PM
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i've noticed that traditionally masculine men tend to be conservative, and conservative men tend to watch shitty fake news programs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 05:13 PM
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Do you agree that a relationship were the man has multiple women and the woman one man is the best relationship for a man? Why or Why not? there is no "best kind of relationship for a man." some dudes would probably like this situation. some probably want just one partner. some women would probably like multiple partners and some would prefer monogamy. sure there is the mainstream idea that men are amoral sexually aggressive gorillas who want to plow every woman they see while women want to "set…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 07:16 PM
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having been raised in catholic abstinence i really resent it now. i think it teaches people to be afraid of their own sexuality, to judge others on how much sex they are or arent having, and generally paints sex as this huuuuuuuuge deal when it should be, well, just something people do in relationships, to have kids, or just for fun. all three of these reasons are worthwhile reasons. like, shit, some kid jerks it then goes to catholic class the next day to find out they defiled their body and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 03:46 PM
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i think "people tend to marry people with similar lifestyles" could be an argument or Red Pill or Blue Pill alike, depending how you frame it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 03:40 PM
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so she has some friends defending her, this isnt the same as feminism entirely turning a blind eye to it she's acted in despicable ways and should be held accountable. she was in a position of power over a student and took advantage of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 02:57 PM
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needing other people to validate you is usual but unhealthy and inevitably impossible to satisfy. men and women alike feel validation from getting laid, some people obsessively get validation from getting laid, some people are validated by finishing in level 22 on Nazi Zombies, some people are validated by compliments from friends or significant others, some are validated by listening to their favorite song
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 02:53 PM
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because it perpetuates harmful gender roles and stereotypes that negatively affect each and every one of us (captain/first mate, LMR, men shouldnt show emotions) also because it urges men to use pretty harmful, manipulative, and abusive tactics (dread game, negging)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 04:04 PM
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it seems to me that for some women being mistreated by one man is more a justification for cynicism than for say a man being sexually invisible to all women for a period of years because being in an abusive relationship is probably more traumatic than women simply not talking to you. one is a coping mechanism and the other is anger at their own shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:02 PM
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support for what? not being able to date? depression? being cogs in the machine? testicular cancer? imo men just dont need male-only support groups. the only time people bring them up is when they're asking about female-only support groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 01:54 PM
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>I supposedly miss out on this human experience of love and itimacy as the benefit, but the cost is years of emotional and financial toil. i think these are the main reasons to date and marry. also sharing benefits from work. honestly relationships dont have to be as bleak as you paint it. sometimes people are in relationships in which they are both satisfied and happy, both members are able to work on themselves and indulge in their own hobbies while still supporting each other and spending tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 03:45 PM
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i think it would affect fashion culture but that's about it. some more traditional men and women would be grossed out more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 02:27 PM
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i think bottom line is some people can handle being only friends with members of whatever gender they're attracted to, some cant. this applies to straight, gay, bi, w/e. gf and i are both bi and have been very much monogamous with no problem, we both have many friends of both gender
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 02:25 PM
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i think "beta/alpha/omega" means something different to everyone and you can learn a lot about someone by how they define it. some folks think being president is the ultimate alpha job, 'cause you're the leader of the free world, others think its the ultimate beta job 'cause you're working to help everyone else. i've seen red pill threads on separate occasions claiming both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 03:09 PM
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yup, im not grossed out by body hair. it doesnt even cross my mind in fact. some women dont shave their legs sometimes, some men wear pink, and life somehow goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 03:02 PM
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when you take a step back and realize some things are arbitrary rules designed by marketing companies and perpetuated by Cosmo you dont really care if people follow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 03:00 PM
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truth. and sometimes women dont shave their legs. and life somehow goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 02:59 PM
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leg+armpit shaving in the West developed during WWI by marketing companies. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/625/who-decided-women-should-shave-their-legs-and-underarms/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 02:56 PM
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wouldnt care, havent cared. if im not expected to shave my legs why should she. women shaving legs/armpits was literally invented to sell more razors in the 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 07:07 PM
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hes not obligated to tell them in the same way im not obligated to tip. really should, dick move if you dont, but no one's gonna force you to. his "plates" should absolutely know as theyd probably want to. oh yeah, he should tell his wife too for her own health as he's creating risk of STD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 08:27 PM
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this sub has taught me that when groups of men and groups of women hang out they shit talk the opposite gender and talk about how the opposite gender is made of entirely of cheaters i also notice that Red Pill jumps between men being monogamous and loyal and men being amoral who naturally want a lot of partners. i dont think frequency of cheating or loyalty is determined by gender. Most these these dudes wised up eventually and became fuckboys and womanizers ....and I don't blame them one bit. a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 03:48 PM
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aw come on, describing some people as insecure and thus more susceptible to not recognizing abusive behavior is pretty heckin different from "all men are either beta/alpha, AWALT" being insecure and unable to recognize abusive behavior is also very obviously not specific to women as you seem to think we claim From my experience there are certainly normal women engaging in abusive relationships, yet the bloop meme remains alive. you seem to imply that "normal" means emotionally mature and healthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 06:11 PM
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to put it simply: the more someone is able to be self-sufficient and happy on their own the more fit for relationships they are. I don't think being wealthy is as universally desired as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:03 PM
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protesting isnt mob rule and just because you think the pink hat is silly doesnt mean you should ignore the message or discount the entire movement. i think you're just looking for any reason you can find to not have to take the movement seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 03:10 AM
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probably because those mass protests generally don't actually accomplish much other than making the participants feel like they're doing something sad, being able to protest is such a fundamental part of American politics and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:34 PM
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wisdom tooth removal SUCKS one week later i have a furry tongue from antibiotics, am spitting shit out of my mouth every morning, my face is bruised, and have been on a liquid only diet, could be worse i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 05:24 PM
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you seem to be pretty deep into religious abstinence. i can tell you right now, one internet stranger to another, that you will be more happy once you realize that women are human beings just like you and just as smart, able, and deserving of respect and that you do not have any superior value over them just because youre a man. your beliefs are breeding some deep-seated resentment towards complete strangers to the point of wanting to impose those beliefs on those strangers. “None of you has fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:02 PM
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what do you mean by that? are you trolling or do you honestly believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:52 PM
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pretty absurd to see people protesting laws that affect their livelihood and bodies and you think they're "overreacting." what do you expect? "oh, i might lose access to family planning and abortion services, what else is on TV?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:48 PM
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if sex is the only thing that gets you to pay attention to the problems in the relationship, isn’t she kind of right to withhold it? Isnt it kind of your fault? witholding sex instead of just talking about something is pretty dysfunctional. it shouldnt be a reward or function of power over someone else. hypothetical couple needs to communicate better. communication seems to scare a lot of people. Why should she reward continuous bad behavior with sex knowing you’ll now have no initiative to chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:06 PM
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its not a stretch to call isolation from friends, screaming, constant criticism, and unachievable standards abusive. of course, some people see a happy couple and will call the dude "whipped" if he simply isnt going out with his friends as much, is partaking in more household chores, etc. this isnt abusive at all obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 08:12 PM
3

and becomes Top 40 hits
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 05:56 PM
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because recognizing non-physical abuse is pretty difficult for most people and even harder when the abuser is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 05:32 PM
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1 and 2 arent very positive...men being more aggressive and angry is very much apart of toxic masculinity. i think people take offense to seeing things like "leadership" and "competitiveness" associated with masculinity because it implies that women can't be those things. sure, on the general level those things may be tested higher in men, but its absolutely silly to judge people for those reasons individually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:29 PM
1

even if he's hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 08:23 PM
13

if your brother had sex with as many people you'd probably high five him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 07:50 PM
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Women can work for their money now. if women being made equal to men is all it took to take away men's value, did men have much value to begin with? I think the major whole in your argument is the fact that women are mostly valued for their appearance. that's not value, that's simple objectification. Men are certainly more often working dangerous jobs, going to war, etc. This is because men are seen as stronger and more able to thrive in these positions, not because men are seen as disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 02:52 PM
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approaching is dumb, its never in an environment where people feel comfortable enough to just act like themselves, hell being approached by a stranger is out of most people's comfort zones in a way that i can't imagine most women enjoy it if you're approaching hundreds of women and having to: endure humiliation, getting called a creep or pervert, "sexual harassment" and if you're afraid of: will most likely won't be attracted to you, cheat on you, ghost you or use you for money i think you may n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:17 PM
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its honestly a little depressing that the only reason most men can think of to do chores is "itll give you more sex" rather than "its a normal part of every functioning responsible adult's life"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 01:54 PM
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stay tuned for tomorrow question "women say they _____ but why do they also ______??"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 12:57 AM
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and the rap that is misogynistic doesnt prove anything. similar to the fact that some male rappers rap about violence towards women, but this doesnt prove that all men support violence towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 12:56 AM
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Women demand marriage. And will leave men who don't want to marriage (so much for love right?) not true. less and less people want marriage, men and women alike. Mass media would make it seem like men are always the ones who at fault for a marriage not working any examples? i think this is your confirmation bias rather than a cultural trend. your list of "buts" is pretty leading. just as many women are good partners as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:26 PM
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i've learned that men and women are simultaneously much more similar and different than I thought. there are certain biological and mental differences, but sometimes I wonder if I only notice them out of my own confirmation bias or circumstance. i've learned that men and women, for the most part, seem to have nearly identical complaints about the other gender. everyone thinks the opposite gender is constantly looking for someone else or someone better and everyone thinks the other gender has dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:55 PM
1

if you dont want to do it, it's not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:45 PM
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i think so. what is deemed as "attractive" changes between generations and cultures. small boobs were hot in Europe in the middle ages and not even relevant to attractiveness in aboriginal tribes. hairlessness wasnt seen as feminine until the last century thanks to marketing from razor companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:16 PM
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As a demographic they are completely responsible i'd say its half and half. everyone participates and contributes to this culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:06 PM
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aggression is impulsive and emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 05:06 PM
1

All of this is true for the majority of the animal species (where the female doesn't eat the male). except for our closest primate relative, the bonobo, who is mostly matriarchal and ostracizes aggressive males if feminists get the society they want then the lowest tier of men will still be considered worth less than the lowest tier of women says the manosphere. femnism doesnt really have anything to do with "human tiers" afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 05:05 PM
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the article makes it seem like the higher ups were just saying "by the way, staring at people is awkward and can make others uncomfortable." no one's being fired for staring at anyone for 6 seconds nor is anyone being imprisoned. it was a discussion of basic social etiquette at one company. it wasnt a declaration of new policy. i think its just funny that people need to be told not to stare at others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 04:34 PM
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or it describes an ingrained prejudice of women, possibly including valuing a woman based on her attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 05:19 PM
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because when you view women as a single hivemind rather than a group of individuals who act differently you're bound to find contradictions seriously, how does this have 40 upvotes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 03:25 PM
2

if its a sweeping generalization that places one gender over the other you can bet it's a gender stereotype there's the stereotype that women are more calm and smart that thus able to make decisions and another stereotype that says men are more rational and likewise more fit to make decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 01:43 PM
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i think the world would be pretty bleak. every man would be suspicious and insecure that their partner would be looking to leave him for someone better, relationship communication would be replaced with passive aggression, women would be seen as entirely inferior and unfit for positions of power or leadership... men wouldnt be able to entirely fulfill the expectations of masculinity (being fit, sexually aggressive, emotionally unavailable) and see an increase of suicide and depression. women wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 04:52 PM
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one thing ive learned here is that red pill dudes are always looking for opportunities to talk about their erections
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 03:59 PM
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feminism has nothing to do with people's heights, im willing to bet that feminists, because they're all about breaking social norms, would be more alright with breaking height stereotypes the few really tall girls i know have dated shorter men and some have expressed insecurity about seeming intimidating for their height and wishing shorter men weren't afraid of them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:25 PM
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i think you're both projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 03:56 PM
2

Many mainstream sources blame hookup culture on men, saying men just want to "sow their oats" and have fun. From liberals to conservatives. some people do say this, but some people also say that men are the ones that want monogomy while women want to ride the CC. taking anything that a small group of people say and applying it to everyone is obviously gonna be full of holes. you're dissecting something that isnt true and only said by a small group of insecure people. Women love casual sex just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 05:18 PM
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"Guys did us wrong in the past so we should be able to behave in ways men aren't allowed to." this "double standard" is the culmination of centuries of patriarchal sexism that views male sexuality as aggressive and controlling (which TRP agrees with, being a patriarchal ideology) and thus dangerous while female sexuality is submissive and unintimidating. this is not feminism's fault. hot women are assumed to be dull and shallow, hot men are assumed to be successful and leaders. pretty much stere…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 05:48 PM
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any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 05:38 PM
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yes! and i think youre exaggerating edit: our culture has been built around shaming people for having too much or not enough sex, shaming people for not being attracted to the norm, shaming women for being as sexual as men, etc. removing sexual stigma is a good thing for everyone except the internet peeps who feel like their masculinity is threatened
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 03:35 PM
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Assuming its not copy-pasta, what exactly is your point here? freedom for women = bad news
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 02:56 PM
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Red Pillers honestly believe all men fit into alpha/beta, all woman want chad, all woman are hypergamous, AWALT, etc. they think all women want men who act certain ways. or maybe thats more incel? thinking that an entire demographic acts one way ignores nuance and is prejudice to the point of being straight up sexist also the manosphere in general seems to ignore nuance. there have been lots of threads in the past from RP/MGTOW peeps trying to grapple with the idea of consent. thats an incredibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 02:23 PM
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Women claim that they can do anything a man can do, that they are just as capable at doing these things. They also claim that they cannot do everything a man can do because of thousands of years of oppression. a woman is physically able to be CEO and do just as good of a job as a dude but there are mountains of social and cultural barriers to climb that men do not have to climb Men made better workers, and let me tell you this, being a meaningless cog in the machine in a soul crushing job isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 03:37 PM
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i think men (and most adults) arent raised with the right tools to communicate. its not like men only have the options of shutting down and being aggressive. men are able to logically talk through and figure out problems. men and women alike have the capacity to appropriately respond to stress but not everyone knows how. shutting down isnt protective or productive. its a symptom of two people in a relationship not being able to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 05:32 PM
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and I guess in a way it's more of a scientific approach, which goes along with most of the subscribers personalities. i always get the vibe that its more a bunch of "well, ACTUALLY..." type dudes trying to one up each other and there's lots of arguing because the concepts are so ambiguous and confirmation-bias oriented In Blue Pill any opinion that goes against the grain is met with a downvote brigade and weakly constructed arguments. its rage-porn for feminists which is pretty addicting also, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 02:16 PM
2

The whole “alpha” and “beta” with respect to human social interaction is a giant bucket of steamed dogshit. the dude that came up with the alpha/beta theory even renounced it when he realized it was wrong but it was too late. its given way to so much shitty pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 07:06 PM
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i guess i'm 2 but i dont like the word "broken." red pill only really works on heteronormative folks that are susceptible to manipulation tactics. for example: some people will be dread gamed by their partner and nope the fuck out of that relationship. other people will try to be more attractive to that partner as Red Pill says. because dread game exploits insecurity in one's relationship and is thus manipulation, these people in the second group are more susceptible to manipulation and abuse. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 01:56 PM
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TBP always ridicules TRP men for breaking up with or “nexting” women they’re unhappy with. how does this translate to "its impossible for a man to be unhappy in a relationships" if two people are in a relationship and have needs that arent met and they dont have the ability to communicate effectively one or both will be unhappy. simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 01:38 PM
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that's just as dumb as saying "the world owes medical and technological advances to men"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 05:53 PM
1

the idea of asking someone to dinner + movie seems so bland and forced...we sorta just hung out with friends as friends for a while and then i asked her to start a band as an excuse to hang out with her more. i guess the first time playing music together in the college piano room was the one and only date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:18 PM
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father down he says : Your girl talks about fucking will smith while you sit there with ur soy face and go “ok baby it’s ok he’s famous”. I don’t have to tell my chick to not say this shit. She’s with me. Her god. And I am treated as such. You don’t hate me. You hate yourselves. christ...i think this dude has some issues. add him to the "Alpha Dude Bro" starter pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:11 PM
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Without consequences for women that choose a shitty mate, single motherhood will continue to rise nope, as long as we fail to teach people proper sex ed and make birth control + abortion more accessible we will continue to see unplanned pregnancies. if we punish women for unplanned pregnancies we'll just see more under-the-table abortions and homeless families. people in this sub feel so much anger for single mothers...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:32 PM
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i blame it more on the fact that our country falls super short on sex education + access to birth control, giving way to unplanned pregnancies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:30 PM
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i live in a house of people that regularly talk about how much they hate all men, how men are inherently less attractive than women, all men are evil, etc. they screw with men and do shit like lead them on just to ghost them 'cause they think its funny and then they applaud each other. makes me pretty uncomfortable and really changed how i view feminism. in relation to manosphere, feminism and the manosphere are suddenly two sides of the same coin for me. people trash talk the opposite gender to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 03:57 PM
2

same same
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 01:57 PM
2

last hypothetical scenario from me lol: what about dudes that wear nail polish/makeup with the utmost confidence? if a woman decides she'd rather not shave her pits at the expense of some dude being grossed out and seeing her as masculine all the more power to her. i think you're trying to quantify people according to rigid western gender stereotypes and describe something that is fluid and changing from person to person and perceived differently from person to person. i think gender and feminin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 05:16 PM
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so if a woman goes about her day not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks, does that make her more masculine? "not giving a fuck" is a trait anyone can benefit from regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 05:00 PM
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it works in the same way a car held together with duct tape works. gets the job done, is sort lasting, not fundamentally sound, and perpetuates harmful gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 03:53 PM
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I think it's pretty common among female feminists too, they just won't admit it to themselves (and therefore not to anyone else as well) that's dangerous thinking. no matter what anyone says it will confirm what you already decided is true in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 01:27 PM
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on my gf was at work and her coworker mentioned that she'd leave her BF if she ever saw him cry, rest of the coworkers agreed they would as well. i think its due to men needing to be masculine to be valuable and that (toxic) masculinity often involves pretending you dont feel physical/emotional pain. i think its pretty common among non-feminist people. feminist tend to hate toxic masculinity and gender roles. men should support other men and try to normalize the fact that men cry and feel emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:43 PM
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really? i think its everywhere. especially on reddit, the manosphere, and more conservative areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 01:40 PM
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i think that's because men are applauded when they're promiscuous and have lotsa girls around while women who have lotsa guys around are generally shamed and called "sluts"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 04:42 PM
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this is exactly what i say all the time! attraction is fluid, individual, and culturally influenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:36 PM
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why is that bad? why does it matter if gender-exclusivity becomes a thing of the past, especially in groups of importance? seems like a good thing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:28 PM
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Why are you hanging out with women you don’t like and then complaining about it? i avoid people i dont like. whether i like someone or not is completely unrelated to their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:21 PM
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because dicks are seen as funny. every man on this thread has laughed at dick jokes and drawn a dick on their desk as a kid. dicks being punchlines in comedy doesnt mean people are disgusted by it tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:23 PM
2

my partner, friends, coworkers, and boss are all very supportive of me when i need help. sometimes im too stubborn to ask for help tho. its not really different between my male and female friends, we are all pretty open when we need help and lean on each other. im happy to be surrounded by people that care about me. ive never felt uncomfortable expressing weakness cause we dont see weakness in asking for help. its just part of being human. my gf said her coworkers all agreed that catching a boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:55 PM
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it seems to be an assumption reflected in most media and traditional/conservative ideology including the manosphere, yes. "patriarchy" is another way to put it i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 05:10 PM
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society assumes men are stronger, more fit for leadership, less fit for caretaking roles, and are more sexually aggressive. thus you see bias in society that treats men as such. also creates toxic masculinity which, among other things, shows men that they're less off a man for asking for help or showing any emotion beyond anger. funny thing is that Red Pill really perpetuates these stereotypes. they chastise feminism and then lean on the very stereotypes that creates this awful gender imbalance.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 01:36 PM
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when incels complain about the fact that some women prefer tall men, when red pillers complain about women being typically too preoccupied with social media and image-obsessed, when women complain that men just want one-night stands, everyone is forgetting that everyone is pretty shallow and make choices due to aesthetic short-term reward rather than long-term reward that may be better for their own self interest, and that's not determined by gender. all of those examples are different levels of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:17 PM
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MGTOW saying they actually love women reminds me of when Westboro Baptist Church said they actually love homosexual people and want to save them i guess thats just a way that especially prejudice people try to rationalize their prejudice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 03:12 PM
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aw come on, broken homes arent the fault of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:59 AM
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not a woman, but the ppl saying they don't experience oppression are living those experience thanks to decades of feminist movements. even as a dude i dont have to look far to find examples of people saying women are less fit for leadership roles, that wearing revealing clothes is inviting men to comment, etc it also seems like most of the people saying those things are self-aware enough to say "just because i dont experience oppression doesnt mean that's the same experience for everyone"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 05:13 PM
2

what parts of red pill helped you the most? working out and practicing being more confident arent misogynistic. you dont have to be red pill to be confident and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 05:07 PM
2

women stay in bad relationships for the same reason men stay in bad relationships. sometimes its hard to detect when you're in an abusive relationship because the abuse gradually worsens and is normalized. abusers are often manipulative as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 07:22 PM
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"woman leaving unseccessful man" isnt equal to "man leaving unattractive woman." a man leaving an unsuccessful woman is the same as a woman leaving an unsuccessful man. just like a woman leaving her BF cause he seems unattractive is equal to a man leaving his GF cause she's become unattractive. also its sooo contextual. its legit to break up with someone because your lifestyles no longer compliment each other. if one person wants to "grow up" and be a homebody they likely wont want to be with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:38 PM
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actually, in the posts there that are like "im no longer attracted to my bf/gf" the responses are usually sympathetic. cant control who you're attracted to and its a fluid changing thing for some people. they shit on the "past promiscuity" posts because thats a toxic and insecure mindset to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 04:33 PM
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what do you think of women that assume all men are rapists to protect themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 03:31 PM
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i think you're incorrect in assuming women dont have this same eyes/libido for attractive people on the street granted, men arent really sexualized the same way. we as society arent "trained" to see masculinity as attractive in the same way as femininity and men arent supposed to focus on being attractive in the same way that women are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 05:53 PM
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sorta like how Red Pill says that its normal for men sleep around as they're amoral but worth judging women for? or how if a man cheats it's cause the woman wasn't doing enough but if a woman cheats it's cause all woman are hypergamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 04:57 PM
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im sooooo interested in seeing what those people are like in real life. its pretty easy to just say "im charming, but because im unattractive people dont like me!" and not realize your own unsubtle toxicity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 04:25 PM
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i think most people go to the gym for a combination of reasons, some of which probably overlap with other people, and that saying "all men do x" is misleading and projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 04:21 PM
1

I met my spouse the old fashioned way, we were friends and now we’ve been together for 5 years. We’re both shitty people sometimes, but usually we’re happy, compatible people who work hard to be a successful partnership. Yeah, it’s not easy, but we work with who each other is as a person, not a preset conception of what the other sex is like. this is what blue pill peeps say all the time. dating is easiest and most rewarding when you start as friends, have clear communication, and treat the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 04:18 PM
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It makes me question if they want a girlfriend or a mother sometimes! same for the men that want a wife to cook for them, clean up after them, do their laundry, etc that's not specific to america tho...i think?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 02:31 PM
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for the same reason women say "all men are rapists" they have some recurring bad experiences with multiple people say conclude that all people similar to them must behave the same way. then the view the world in a way that provides confirmation bias to further validate those opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 02:33 PM
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i feel like people are bitter about pretty women and ugly women alike. pretty women in the workplace seem to be assumed to be underqualified by coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 03:35 PM
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men that have dolls are typically under the mindset "all women are superficial cheaters, a doll can't leave you" which is sort of misogynistic and why people consider them shitty. never heard of a dude being shamed for having toys in general tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 03:34 PM
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honestly i think its comforting for some people to quantize human interaction into abbreviations and numbers. its easier to just say "AWALT!" than confront the fact that humans are complex and variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 01:35 PM
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internalized misogyny. we are inundated with media and advertisements that say "you arent valuable unless women accept and like you, achieve this by buying our product!" we watch Pokemon and see Gary and learn that success = surrounded by women. every high school drama shows the jocks/ bad boys as womanizers who are desired. we hope we can find our own Mary Jane Watson or Marla Singer who'll put up with any bullshit, love us unconditionally, and automatically see how great we are. look at incels…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 08:08 PM
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That's true, but there are very many examples could you spare any examples? Its assumed that someone in a monogamous relationship isn't interested in casual sex with strangers. Under this assumption, what can John the Bachelor do that James Ball-and-Chain cant?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 06:43 PM
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never getting ripped apart from your bros and hobbies which women love to do is the #1 reason for me this is abusive. isolating your partner no matter your gender is horrible. there are plenty of people who don't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:30 PM
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women are seen as generally less intimidating than men which excuses violence from women and our society normalizes such toxic gender stereotypes. this isnt a product of feminism, its a product of centuries of society deciding women arent as strong as men, that men are big n scary while women are frail and angelic, that only men are fit for physically demanding jobs/violent jobs, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:28 PM
1

open relationships only work with pristine transparent communication and clear boundaries. anything less will lead to a "raw deal" and bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:34 PM
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nothing better than strangers on the internet defining your relationship for you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:32 PM
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nah, i think men being feminist is a bare minimum for most women. "ah, you agree i should be paid the same as you for the same amount of work? here's your Official Boyfriend Material star!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 03:49 PM
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i dont think so. the number of men that think all women are sleeping with "bad boys" or rich dudes seems to be growing though!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 02:32 PM
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For men it's not rocket science: just be feminine, be attractive (slim, nice boobs, nice ass, tight clothes, beautiful long hair, nice face), have a nice feminine voice, and have feminine body language. this isnt accurate. "men" is too general of a demographic. some men like short hair, some like smaller knockers, thicker than slim, etc just like some women like really chiseled bodies and some like bigger "bear" types. some women like hairy some like not hairy. its down to the person, really. if…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 02:27 PM
4

ppl want to feel validated, something toys will never achieve
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 03:04 PM
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i think it does. you just have to meet the right person. i think people expect love to be the honeymoon phase for the entire relationship and are often surprised to find that real LTR love is more of a mutual decision than an infatuation that you wander into. I am kind of bitter that whatever woman I end up marrying it will be because I would be a "beta provider" and I would marry her just because I want sex no offense, i think that you're not bitter but paranoid. most prejudices are best fought…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 01:46 PM
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Hold the door open? If you do, you're a misogynist; don't, and you are a callous jerk. not true. maybe according to the manosphere...i just open the door for everyone. So, don't you dare flirt with a woman who doesn't find you acceptable; how do you know if you are acceptable? She gets to decide after you flirt with her! ....or just dont keep pressing and insisting once you get a "no" or indication that she's not interested. flirting is a social interaction and, unfortunately for some people in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 04:44 PM
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maybe according to Red Pillers. if someone thinks all women should stay in the kitchen they are absolutely oppressive shitty misogynists. simply preferring a wife that takes care of you and feeds you isnt oppressive, just a preference. personally i think wanting a wife that's just "mom part 2" is a little dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:59 PM
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Women who are less feminine are less valuable than feminine women when it comes to the sexual market place, just like a masculine man is more valuable than a less masculine man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KtYwWsVKU4
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:56 PM
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anyone that has used the "a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock" metaphor
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:09 PM
1

partners are only responsible to establish consent. no one's responsible for the other's satisfaction, but if one person isn't satisfied they likely arent having their needs filled and are in the wrong relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 04:35 PM
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this sub is about gender dynamics and Red Pill. OP talked about feminism in a way that misrepresents it so i wanted to note that. this thread in particular is literally about feminism And why shouldn't officials elected by the general population to represent them in the legislature, vote on bills which will effect their constituents there's still a crazy bias against women that makes it generally more difficult for women in politics to be taken as seriously as their male equivalents. either that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:28 PM
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i think people are generally predatory, opportunistic, and exploitative. saying "all men are rapists" or "All Female sexual strategy is to restrict, deny, oppress, usurp, and neglect men’s sexuality and resources for their own benefit" is just a way to validate your own prejudices.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:03 PM
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feminists complain about not being able to pursue certain careers due to societal sexism, not being properly represented in the government, or the fact that that old dudes are deciding what women can/cant do with their own bodies men complain that its too hard for them to get laid these days :P
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:43 PM
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that self-improvement takes dedication and its worth making every effort to be the best version of yourself. that men are mostly considered disposable and are more suicidal/depressed due to societal pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:02 PM
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i think you're assuming too much that women always hook up with men objectively more attractive than them men grow up on male-centric porn. making women orgasm just isnt a priority for some dudes unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 03:07 PM
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zing!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 08:32 PM
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its honestly a little funny when guys pursue a woman and then call her "ugly" once she rejects them. either way, sending petty insults over text is never justified and just shows how petty and immature that person is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 08:29 PM
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people here act like its a sub that makes fun of overly nice dudes, which shows how aloof they are to what /r/thebluepill and /r/niceguys actually think
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 08:27 PM
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If you play the long game in being their friend and getting to know them first, taking them on dates with the subtle intentions of having it evolve into something else, you'll get lynched all the way to places such as r/niceguys because your real intentions are to get laid rather than being a socially functioning human being. if you ended up on /r/niceguys you were probably not as subtle about it as you thought. id imagine that it sucks to find out that someone you've been hanging out with has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:10 PM
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shaming male virgins is commonplace, ironically by the same feminists who so vehemently oppose slut-shaming. most feminist spaces i know preach that sex positivity involves not virgin-shaming. the concept "your sexual experience is irrelevant to your value as a person" is still pretty new. just because some people havent learned that yet, feminist or not, doesnt mean feminism is too blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 07:58 PM
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for the same reason we shame women who have a lot of sex. we place an absurd amount of value on how much sex someone does or doesnt have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:56 PM
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SO i think sex positivity is really about 1)respecting consent and 2)not sex-shaming (not shaming people for the sex they are or are not having) going up to a rando on the street saying "hay bb wanna fuck" is imposing yourself on a stranger in a public setting regardless of whether or not they may be into it. that isnt respecting consent. its not respecting basic boundaries. its not sex positive. its imposing yourself on someone who may not want to be imposed on. its just cat calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:23 PM
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i have a family member who i think would qualify. i havent tried giving advice, they've gotten so hateful and bitter i've sorta just cut them out. apparently at their workplace people talk about how he just goes on angry bitter rants and isnt pleasant to be around. kinda person that just walks around on the street and gets so pissed if he sees strangers with tattoos, people smoking, women showing skin, etc under the surface i think he has severe anxiety issues from past trauma. honestly think he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:11 PM
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things like dread game and negging literally involve manipulating the other person's insecurities to keep them from leaving you. learning to dress nice and be confident isnt manipulative, its just dressing nice and being confident. its when you take advantage of people's insecurities that you become manipulative women wearing makeup or pushup bras isnt manipulative...i dont know many men outside of the manosphere that feel lied to by those htings
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 09:03 PM
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So, what do you expect of this coming female dominance in the justice system? Will it change the way justice is understood? Will it perhaps cause discrimination against men, or will it instead eliminate white knighting? none of the above. life will carry on as usual and no one will notice much of a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 04:59 PM
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sorry, but there are a lot of women having trouble going out and finding guys good luck getting a manosphere dude to believe this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:02 PM
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(copied from my reply below) no one cares about harassment from women because women are seen as physically more weak and unintimidating. a dude walking home late at night is likely to not feel nervous if a woman is walking close behind him while a woman would probably feel super nervous with a strange dude walking behind her society has shitty double standards. you can thank shitty gender roles for that instead of blaming feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:44 PM
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i mean, they're right. no one cares about harassment from women because women are seen as physically more weak and unintimidating. a dude walking home late at night is likely to not feel nervous if a woman is walking close behind him while a woman would probably feel super nervous with a strange dude walking behind her society has shitty double standards. you can thank shitty gender roles for that instead of blaming feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:39 PM
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the only time men care to talk about harassment from women is when women are having a conversation about harassment from men first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:36 PM
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this guy's anecdotal evidence is also contrary to multiple studies that repeated the same conclusion: women are slightly more likely to share, but the difference is so small its negligible just one high school classroom is useless. but hey, whatever it takes to get the click bait title amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:30 PM
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gun to my head, teacher. AFAIK the education industry doesnt have a history of drug addiction, STD prevalence, and abuse cycles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 08:49 PM
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some men like traditionally feminine women, some like not-so-traditional femininity, some like tom boys its so fluid and diverse and changes with each generation that its useless to try to debate and is generally impossible to reach a consensus on. its like trying to debate which music genre is best. will never be achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 04:19 PM
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alpha/beta is so subjective and such a social construct that pretty much anything can be rationalized as either depending on how you look at it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 04:12 PM
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This is to allow maximum sexual access to the best looking guys. and you're speaking on the incredibly good authority of being a red pill dude :P This explains why feminists go nuts when men have a weight preference but demand the complete right to a height preference. ...or the entire demographic of women is a huge diverse group of people and you're bound to find women and feminists with conflicting views This also explains why prominent feminists date stereotypically masculine men, whether it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 06:32 PM
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since he started strong and it quickly went south i feel like he was under the mindset that "women decide if they'll have sex within the first encounter" or some similar shitty sound bite advice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:24 PM
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left wing tranny theory is laughed at i disagree. i think its just laughed at in conservative/older demographic circles. its pretty accepted elsewhere. OP is just making the point that this sub misrepresents feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 04:21 PM
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what sorta genres do you play? metal and EDM are dominated by dudes but other genres like folk and standard-based jazz are very diverse with their genders
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 08:43 PM
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being involved in music is an amazing way to meet people! literally just hit other musicians up and say "wanna jam sometime?" and proceed to jam. make friends, expand your music tastes, etc if you're more of a producer, make a bunch of siq beats and invite people to sing over them. collaborate. you can even do this remotely. pop-oriented female singers are generally better in singing over beats on the spot ime. all of my friends and my girlfriend i only know thru being active in my local music c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 05:15 PM
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men built society, men have led society since 2000 BC. if you dont like the shitty age-old gender dynamics, blame the men that created those dynamics! Women simply live longer and men dont have periods. simple medical facts arent privilege. women are built to be able to bear children. they live longer. this doesnt give them any sort of advantage in society or any position of power. Women have tremendous sexual power. just because women are now able to get laid without being honor-killed or disow…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 05:37 PM
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because our society does an ABSOLUTE SHIT JOB at explaining healthy relationships people grow up watching shitty examples of relationships in movies, on TV and in music most people dont realize that the dude being stoic and uncommunicative is unproductive for a loving relationship, that jealousy is NOT indicative that they love you, that passive aggression (see: dread game) is a shit way of getting your point across, etc... Red Pill is just a symptom of the internalized toxic misogyny that most …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:59 PM
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you're resorting to black and white thinking. just because someone isnt abusive doesnt mean they're a pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 02:55 PM
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how do you feel about women that say things like "ugh.....men" ive been starting to see men and women bitter at the other gender as two sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 08:07 PM
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i assume if someone is calling someone "AWALT" they are calling the person hypergamous, preoccupied with emotions (feelz vs reals), looking for a "captain" to lead the way until they find someone better. edit: added a word (personally i think AWALT is a coping mechanism for insecurity, the same way some women say "ALL MEN ARE EVIL" as a coping mechanism)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 07:31 PM
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You have no idea of how useless as wives American women raised on the daily diet of "you are a princess", and encouraged by the feminist laws, are. about as useless as the men that also refuse to cook, clean, and contribute to their household, presumably
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:25 PM
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The Blue Pill Sub basically automatically assumes that women are not at fault, that it's always the man that caused the problems. any examples of that? given that its dedicated to reposting extreme examples of Red Pill men you shouldnt be surprised that its mostly focused on men, but I dont think anyone in /r/thebluepill would agree that women are infallible. The Blue Pill is not about seeing the other side. It's about believing the established narrative in the West: masculinity is bad and toxic…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 05:31 PM
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The Blue Pill is basically a fantasy that women are angelic creatures who can do no wrong not really, that's more the conservative ideology of "women are fragile angels to be caretakers." blue pill is more like "everyone's human" but without all the evo psych. everyone's human with generally the same wants and needs for validation/happiness and gender roles/toxic masculinity fucks up this conquest astronomically
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:26 PM
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tbh once he said "lesbians are just women who havent been with the right guy" or whatever i feel like he deserves it. everyone involved in that is scummy and has no boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 05:16 PM
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feminists hate MGTOW because their ideology is pretty much "women ruin men's lives, so we're going to cut them out of our lives" also MGTOW men seem to generally agree with anti-women sentiments like "women belong in the kitchen" and "men built society"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:38 PM
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no, i think you're just trying to make yourself feel better tbh...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:35 PM
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its a sub dedicated to making fun of how horrible Red Pill is. men destroying their own relationships is sorta validating that we're right. i see no issue in watching abusive men getting whats coming and seeing women get out of abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:19 PM
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50 years from now sexually frustrated dudes will still be asking "why do women hate sexbots???" to a resounding chorus of "nobody cares about sex bots"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:14 PM
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i dont think anyone will give a shit and i dont think anyone gives a shit now. it does reflect the misogyny dormant in many men who believe that women are only here to give men pleasure, that women will inevitably leave, etc. i dont think men using sexbots are gonna be any more of an issue than women using dildos. men using sexbots/dolls have made for some pretty funny Netflix content tho and i look forward to more of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 02:45 PM
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Men build things so that women can have the time and safety to raise kids maybe back in 100 AD... women are functioning members of the economy and society just as men are and dont "belong in the kitchen" and thinking so is just imagined superiority talking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 09:40 PM
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one is just a call for food no, not its not. its the calling card of every dude that thinks men are superior to women. to say "women belong in the kitchen" is to say "women dont belong in the workforce or in positions of power like men do" also, "women belong in the kitchen" reflects very central red pill beliefs while "kill all men" only reflects fringe radical feminists. none of the feminists on this thread believe it while im willing to bet most red pillers her agree that "women belong in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 09:20 PM
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Thus just as Kill all men is an acceptable part of feminist discourse Women Belong in the Kitchen is an acceptable part of the Red Pill discourse. im willing to bet more red pillers believe "women belong in the kitchen" than feminists believe in "kill all men"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 09:03 PM
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absolutely yes. men and women are able to be friends with other men and women regardless of either sides level of femininity/masculinity. i have friends that are manly men and feminine men, masculine women and feminine women, and in between. A lot of sexist guys say that if women didn't have vaginas, they would be useless. ftfy!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:15 PM
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boys are raised to suppress their emotions and be stoic machines and then people wonder why our suicide rate is higher than women. Being overtly emotional and not tough as a guy is pretty much universally unattractive to women, even to those that say they believe this. fortunately this is changing. i see lots of women beginning to resent men that only know how to express aggression. Red Pill is supposed to be something to help men be the best version of themselves but it really plays into the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 03:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi-3eRMpOC4 <sup>relevant</sup>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 07:14 PM
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tax and insurance benefits. maybe tradition? most of the people i know that are married did it cause that was the only thing left to do or religious reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 04:08 PM
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havent seen it. afaik its a hot white woman starring in one of the most mainstream movies of the year. probably not a good place to go searching for deep feminist messages about objectification and empowerment. having female lead roles is always good tho. everyone should grow up seeing people like themselves as brave superheroes, not just white dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 08:20 PM
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its like taking a Physics class to be more physical
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 08:17 PM
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i went to single ed schools and i think lots of boys suffered from not being "exposed" to girls. also they taught us catholic abstinence-only sex ed, which fucks a lot of kids up maybe single sex ed would be more valuable and less harmful if they taught real sex ed, i'd be very interested in how that wouldve been different
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 04:38 PM
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i think that dude is cold, mostly concerned with his own needs, and emotionally unavailable. nothin wrong with that, he's not hurting anyone and seems content with himself. she obviously wants a relationship with someone that's more emotionally available so they should end the relationship. her needs arent meet and he has no intention of changing. Female entitlement is embedded deep into the heart of western society. Fuck that shit. how is this a example of female entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 04:28 PM
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it’s better to have one or two real friends that would take a bullet for you than a dozen of fake ones. that dude needs to take a fucking CHILL PILL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 04:23 PM
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some women arent able to detect the red flags and are more susceptible to abuse. woman A gets hit. she sees it for the abuse it is and leaves. woman B gets hit. she says something like "he hit me because he loves me" or "i shouldnt have made him mad" i have a friend that was in a relationship with an abusive man. he cut her off from her friends, made her feel awful about herself, and made her be dependent on him. she thought this was just normal and that's how men act to women they love. that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:47 AM
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i think he's referring to harvey weinstein and bill cosby lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:14 PM
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sometimes i think the CC is just "girls having sex with men that arent me"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 07:02 PM
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If she has a legitimate reason to be upset at you, you should apologize, make amends, and never repeat yourself. End of story. agreed your gf is yelling, crying, and throwing things just because you left the toilet seat up at her place. if this is a regular occurrence, she needs to work on her communication skills. throwing things is violent and possibly abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:00 PM
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ah yes, the other reason people voted for him: denial
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 09:10 PM
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by appealing to their xenophobia, sexism, racism, and by being anti-abortion. im willing to bet they either dont believe the accusations or are so far in the right they think its forgivable for the sake of 'murica
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:49 PM
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yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 03:03 PM
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Yet gender advocacy groups make a big deal out of things like cat-calling or micro-aggressions that to me and I would say to anyone with a functioning brain look like trivialities compared to paternity frauds. Shouldn't we talk more about this blatant example of sexist abuse against men? If we tolerate this, then your children might be next. boiling down the entire issue of sexual assault and rape culture to "cat-calling or micro-aggression" for a whataboutism argument is pretty darn belittling …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:57 PM
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i think expensive medical testing is at the fault of the insurance and pharmaceutical companies, not feminism being "not concerned enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:04 PM
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spoken like someone that's never that their right to bodily autonomy threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:10 PM
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stealing cars and road rage are instances of "wrong place at the wrong time" rather than gendered victimization. not sure how it's relevant here? just because being sexually assaulted doesnt bother you doesnt mean its a non-issue. its also very different. men assaulting women has a power dynamic involved that is usually non existent when genders are reversed, as evidenced by the fact that you weren't afraid of her. you dont care because you've never had the experience of someone with power over …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:01 PM
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its still worth talking about men that are actually creepy and break normal social boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:23 PM
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i think the point is that "why would a woman not want sex with her ltr" is such an open-ended hypothetical question that could have many possible depending on individual context. if you think there is one single answer to OPs questions you're either projecting or want to push a narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 05:29 PM
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i remember it differently. those dudes were literally all the news talked about and all i saw on reddit, facebook, twitter, etc. it was surreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 03:12 PM
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ive even heard that people playing the submissive role are also experiencing an element of power in that everything happens within their boundaries and they can stop it at any time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 02:42 PM
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there's nothing manipulative and slimy about being friends with people. being friends with someone specifically because you want to get in their pants is pretty rotten tho. like "oh huh, guess he didnt really want to be my friend, he just wanted to see me naked" the idea is that relationships work much better when people are also best friends. hang out together, see if you feel a spark, ask them out, and dont be an asshole if they say no. i think its mainly a difference of how much you respect t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 06:17 PM
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why comment twice on the same post? why not edit one? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:24 PM
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yeh, its hard to really say anything on cause on one hand people should "do what they want" but on the other hand ppl that abstain until marriage often do so because they think that sex is dirty and shameful, which perpetuates harmful ideas What is the official party line of sex positive feminists on prostitution? its generally bad for ppl to be trapped into cycles of abuse and drug addiction that force them into prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:15 PM
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/u/mr_smoogs got me there! didnt mean to be gate-keepy, just telling it how i've seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:10 PM
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and its hard to do that when half the debate is about irrelevant non-issues. not that the draft is irrelevant, its important to know that society sees men as violent machines and women as fragile baby-makers, which is why the draft was designed to only include men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:43 PM
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its not a good thing, unfortunately our society sees men as violent machines and women as fragile baby-makers. i feel like some ppl here imply that feminists fight for men to only be sent to war which is obviously completely made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:42 PM
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what a cowardly insult to the women who are protecting your ass and my ass today, right now. fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:18 PM
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but its the literal reason for it....just cause you're pissed at me doesnt make me wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:16 PM
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is feminism responsible for the draft? or is the draft a symptom of society that says women are too fragile for war and violence, which is something feminism actively wants to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:22 PM
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I've heard accounts of former feminists being shamed by other feminists for deciding to become monogamous or married. those people werent feminists. feminism is all about being doing what they're comfortable with, without being shamed. if you wanna be a housewife, coo. if you want a poly realationship, thats coo too. if you want to have a monogamous relationship without getting married, have at it. do what you want and dont judge others for doing what they want. this is called sex positivity. fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:21 PM
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no. saying "im dumping you for bad sex" is an asshole thing to say tho. a simple "i have these needs and wants that arent being met" would suffice and be honest without shaming anyone or being accusatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 04:27 PM
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"Women who wear low-cut shirts are trying to bring attention to their cleavage" this isnt wrong, its just that generalized statements are useless and generally used to validate unrelated statements like "all women are hypergamous" Red Pill is in denial of many things. the black and white thinking of AWALT and Alpha/Beta dynamics is a convenient way to rationalize the denial. they're in denial of their own shortcomings. negging and dread game are manipulative emotional abuse tactics. Red Pill is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:04 PM
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that sounds like a great Nathan For You episode
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:30 PM
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i never really felt the need to self improvement material. i have goals and hobbies i try to improve on every day, i do my best to be physically fit, make every effort to cook my meals and get better at cooking every day (lol), always trying to get my career in a better place, etc... self-improvement in terms of Red Pill, self help books, and inspirational seminars just seem like its own hobby for people that are bored with themselves. not that there's anything wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:26 PM
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hot confident people get laid. alert the media!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 06:33 PM
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Generally, i pay attention to their concerns/criticism and change according to my relationship with the person, how the change affects them and myself, and how genuine the criticism is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:46 PM
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so men in positions of power being able to get away with sexual assault isnt a symptom of rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 04:08 PM
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Totally against marriage and being a stay at home mom. huh? that has nothing to do with anything! that is NOT a part of feminism or sex positivity. sex positive means to completely disown the idea that your sex life is your worth. if you have a lot of it, that's cool. if you dont, that's cool too. if you're into certain things that's great as well. a huge part of sex-positivity is also acceptance of people that arent straight or cis. that's a huge part, actually. sex positivity also involves not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:55 PM
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because Red Pill preys on insecure women and plays their insecurities. Negging is literally calling out someone's insecurity and manipulating it. dread game is playing on insecurity. its so abusive and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 02:59 PM
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OP is literally complaining about women being liberated. something tells me its not his looks holding him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:55 PM
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but the responsibility is put on women to not get pregnant. how is that gynocentric? male contraception will never work because men simply dont care enough and dont want to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:14 PM
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PSA: NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO DATE TRANS PEOPLE NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO DATE TRANS PEOPLE trans people just want to live their lives how they feel comfortable without cis people (like everyone in this thread) acting like they have guns to their heads and being forced to date people. are y'all seriously this disturbed by some trans ppl wearing lipstick? not being attracted to trans people is the same as not being attracted to gay people, its just your orientation as much as it is theirs. e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:24 PM
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one of them posted on legal advice posing as a woman asking "what can i do to protect myself from rape tonight?" presumably to assault someone and more easily cover their tracks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:14 PM
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I feel like you just changed that person's comment into something that fit your worldview rather than arguing anything. Patriarchy is a societal institution in the same way racism is. Cat calling isnt a product of natural selection, its a cultural phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:11 PM
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where's that Red Pill comic about the dude that excels at school and medical school to provide for a wife just for her to be with the dumb Chad? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:12 PM
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damn, you're abusive!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:07 PM
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"alpha" is in the eye of the beholder. its very subjective. if a woman is into a dude, even if he's conventionally timid or w/e, im willing to bet she sees him as alpha even tho most people might disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 03:31 PM
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is that surprising that, when asked for a celebrity crush, people name hot celebrities?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:15 PM
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that women are the oldest teenagers in the house that communication is feminine and counterproductive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:43 PM
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people have rage boners for female comedians like Amy Schumer, mostly related to her looks and dirty humor, a scrutiny male comedians dont face
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 01:17 PM
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that its best not to put women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 01:13 PM
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everyone is generally unequal in regards to appearance and lifestyle, but fortunately everyone is also unequal in personal tastes. some people dont give a shit about social status, some people like taller or shorter partners, some people dont care about height at all, some are superficial, some are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:49 PM
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also the whole part of RP that focuses on "overcoming last minute resistance" is right out of the DENNIS system
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 02:45 PM
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at least feminism is trying to change that! better than Red Pill and MRA's telling men that they must stifle their emotions. fuck that. and they wonder why men are more depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:11 PM
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i'd say men that are raised in more conservative/traditional areas are more motivated to be like the men they grew up around. the "male provider" stereotype is albeit still there in lots of media tho. i'd say men in more liberal relationships are more likely to see things split down the middle. especially in couples where neither make a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:07 PM
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my girlfriend told me that at her work (at an all woman clinic) she heard her coworkers saying that if they ever saw their boyfriends cry they would dump them immediately. my girlfriend was disgusted. im very grateful to be dating someone that recognizes my humanity. /u/rreliable you start out by implying that its not only societal pressure that keeps men from crying and then you proceed to list a bunch of examples of societal pressure: The man is immediately instinctively flagged by all present…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 03:02 PM
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TRP is not universally mocked, most people do not know about it. i'd say it even reflects the views of almost the majority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 01:52 PM
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Red Pill discourages communication, fosters insecurity, and encourages abuse. These are not ingredients for healthy lasting relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 03:01 PM
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I also need to specify that both pornography and prostitution are potentially at risk of involving trafficking and exploitation of sex workers so you can't base your moral judgement on that. but you can though. its like comparing professionally made vodka with sketchy moonshine. what a weird metaphor. lol prostitutes seem much more likely to be involved with that profession out of desperation or even sex trafficking. also prostitution also stereotypically involves abuse and drug addiction. porn …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:36 PM
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its so interesting how differently this sub interprets things between when a man does it and a woman. a man cheats with no plans for divorce: she probably isnt filling his desires, men naturally want to sleep with many people, male dating is amoral. women cheat with no plans for divorce: beta bux!!!! Right. Because we're MEN. Men are the ones who have to be strong, dominant, and in control in order for the species to advance. It's how we got to where we are today. nah, those are just gender ster…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:51 PM
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its not a sign of lack of vocabulary, thats just a single word that seems to annoy you due to a past relationship! extrovertness and anxiety are NOT mutually exclusive in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:50 PM
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ill give that a super try sometime!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:43 PM
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some women are super nice, some men are super nice, some men are superficial, some women are superficial, some women listen to the same music as me, some men listen to the same music as me i treat men and women identically. i'm very lucky to have met some amazing people that i can relate to and hang out with and just be myself. some of these people happen to be women and some happen to be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:17 PM
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idunno, i've seen some pretty ugly dudes get girlfriends and very normal looking dudes say they're too ugly to get girlfriends, namely on /r/incels. but lets not try to pretend that the harder you work at it, the better your chances. people have different levels of attractiveness and some people are better at approaching than others. sure. but are you seriously telling us that a dude that LDAR's, gets fat, and never socializes has the same chances of having a relationship than if that same perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:22 PM
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They put WAY more mental energy into communication when they are speaking to children treating someone like you would a child is still condescending. is that specifically disrespectful? depends on the person being condescended to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:25 PM
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the men that are offended by this are probably the most guilty of perpetuating it. they're acting like this is oppressive. every point is pretty soundly explained and none of it is accusatory. its just a list of "if you do these things, know the consequences." no. none of it is hateful. i know some people will interpret it that way, though. nope. they are the exact opposite. not calling women sexist names, not using slurs, having consent...these are all the exact opposite of sexism sure. men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:06 PM
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calls to mind how women acted towards men in the 20s. always walking on eggshells not to make him mad, being careful not to voice her opinion over his...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:51 PM
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calling women children is literally condescending and pure prejudice. is it also disrespectful for women to call men children? especially in Red Pill relationships, women are expected to clean after and cook for the men just like a mother to a child
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:46 PM
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Men are either: A. chads who get the lion's share of the puss; or B. Betas who struggle to get laid and have to resort to slamming the hoes or pigs less attractive than themselves really? literally 100% of men belong to either group and there's no in between? Each girl child destined to fuck all the men her heart desired without consequence. its funny to me how women say "isnt it time for us to be able to have equal representation in the workforce and have full autonomy over our bodies?" and men…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:59 PM
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did we forget it? you say we forgot that idea and then list a current example of it from our culture. those ideas of success are definitely very much alive in hip hop. i'd argue its still very much alive in mainstream culture. Trump is sort of our projection of "successful male."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:11 PM
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The importance of luck is understated. i also think its sooooo contextual and individual. since everyone is attracted to different things, wants different things out of relationships, and is predisposed to act and think differently, its very difficult to say "act like this and you'll get laid!" or "do this every day and your relationship will be healthy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 02:08 PM
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wouldnt it be great to just wake up one day and say "you know, maybe i wont judge people for how they look today?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 01:49 PM
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im very weary of abstinent people. they often have fucked up conservative views about sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 06:35 PM
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yep, women also partake in dumb gender stereotypes and im open to a discussion about that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 07:04 PM
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So in your opinion everything comes down to men's fragile egos? there are loads of threads here where Red Pill men say they wouldnt date a more successful women, the man needs to be the captain, etc So if men are inferior literally no one is saying that. the point they try to make is that men need to make more money or have a more successful career than the women he dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 01:31 PM
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i think its great. its insane that "Eagle Scout" is such a coveted position and has such a great influence on getting jobs etc. its dumb that there's no equivalent for women. girl scouts is great but im willing to bet no one here knows what the top position is called.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:50 PM
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its not about changing dating habits, its about stoping people of both genders from perpetuating harmful gender roles and misogyny. any examples you'd like to share?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:48 PM
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men dont hafta shave their pits or legs/arms, why should women be held to an extra standard just cause its been the fashion for the last hundred years or so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:44 PM
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i was replying to that specific comment. its not uncommon to take questions here and flip the genders. if a woman just wants to have casual relationships, what could a man possibly have to offer to change her mind? nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:43 PM
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this sub suuuure loves "All or Nothing" thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 03:53 AM
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misogyny is misogyny no matter the color of your skin! themoreyouknow.jpg what are we naiive to? i assume Red Pill is more sheltered suburbs material for the fact that they are more in line with conservative heteronormative ideas. for some reason they try to project this naivety of what people are like and small group bias onto good job using group projection to criticize group projection :P
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:24 PM
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i havent been to this sub in 2 weeks what in the hell's going on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:12 PM
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Being a slut is as easy as having a functioning vagina and a pulse. why does that make it bad tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:32 PM
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shit like "single mothers are the scum of the earth" and "women are inferior to men" is hate speech. not that that reflects the views of every red piller, but those are often echoed sentiments. hate speech is generally anything that attacks another person for their race, gender, orientation, identity, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:29 PM
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none of those are ok. its never alright to make assumptions or judge someone according to their sexual history. i see lots of people virgin-shaming which sucks. i see people that call themselves "feminist" doing that which is very hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 06:18 PM
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these crickets tho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:14 PM
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how is this not serious? TBP calls Red Pill abusive all the time, this is pretty definitive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:14 PM
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ah yes we forgot to mention the library of psychology literature that calls advice like "be yourself, dont manipulate women" abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:13 PM
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Alright, do you believe a person's gender is that important in politics? Do you think Marine Le Pen would do a better job as the French president? she'd potentially do a better job at representing women. having a whole bunch of men voting on what's best for women is oppression. How would you say this could happen though? I mean if were talking about the qualities not people, then I don't see how thats possible. Women are smaller and weaker than men. i think it can happen through media and slow s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:05 PM
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yes women need to have equal representation by our leaders and in government and not be seen as inferior. femininity needs to stop being seen as submissive to masculinity. but im a dude, this is all speculation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 09:54 PM
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men are encouraged to be more aggressive. they're also encouraged to bottle up their emotions and deal in unhealthy ways. its super horrible but also very interesting that terrorism and mass-shootings are overwhelmingly committed by men. i attribute this to aggressiveness and a society that tells men to "stop being pussies" if they cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 08:43 PM
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unless a person has a sex addiction i dont think anyone necessarily "needs sex" let alone compared to maternal/paternal instincts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 01:55 PM
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From an "evolutionary" point of view, men feel strongly about getting cheated since he would feel like a "cuck" in the situation this entire paragraph sounds more like speculation than an evolutionary point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 07:20 PM
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You are mixing up the apha/beta shorthand and other science. alpha/beta in Red Pill seems a little more than shorthand to me. seems like a very essential part of the way Red Pill classifies men and interprets how women view men. people seem to use it to justify evolutionary psychology in things like hypergamy and male aggression; "its how chimps and wolves naturally act, so humans must do it too!" a dude that has a lot of plates isn't just someone that loves sex, according to red pill, he's a du…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 05:30 PM
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After all, according to the tenets of white and male privilege, the mere state of being white and/or male 1) automatically makes you bigoted on at least some subconscious level, since you have no firsthand perspective of being female or a POC 2) makes things worse for minorities, because the system favors you over them. pretty much. just as a white woman doesnt know the experience of a woman PoC and has no place to speak for their experience. Then again on the contrary, feminists and social just…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:32 PM
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guys arent under the same pressure and judgement as women to have kids. hell, some people even see men as specifically unfit to care for kids. we arent raised to play with dolls and take care of plastic babies when we're little like women are. some men have desire for kids, but its more "i want to be a man and provide for a family" rather than "i want have a little baby in my arms to take care of right now" i say this a lot, but people that hate the idea of male disposability should be fighting …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 06:29 PM
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i feel like most pop songs are written with a general idea in mind with the intention that the listener will interpret and apply it to their own life subconsciously. the fact that this song was written by men for men but became famous for the female perspective supports that idea. "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" was written by a dude, as well as most pop songs in history with the exception of Lady Gaga and Taylor Swift. point being that one shouldnt read too much into songs? i guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:00 PM
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firstly: women being seen as prizes to be won perpetuates male disposability as well as so many other problems Feminism, has made women's standards for looks go way up as of recently, thus giving women more power in the gate-keeping of sex by giving them more agency. i dont think standards have gone up. hot people still date hot people. women just dont feel pressure to protect men's feelings like they did in the 50s. what is your all's plan to keep women to be seen as prizes while letting women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:38 PM
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agreed. a man with only male friends is likely one of those dudes that acts differently depending on if women are present.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:52 PM
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id love to read the equivalent of an overly sexualized idealized life-recap of a dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:43 PM
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i think you're wildly overestimating how liberated women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 01:49 PM
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i think we also change the way we look at hobbies according to the gender of the person partaking. its always been interesting to me that cooking is seen as a feminine thing, but cooking for a restaurant professionally is seen as very manly, and that field is dominated by men. its also interesting how art has wavered in between being a manly and feminine thing. back in renaissance times painting was seen as manly. hell, even in the 1950s women were held back from being seen as professional artis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/17 03:33 PM
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race, class, and gender are all very different things. and no, i dont treat people differently according to their race or class. that also sounds like a bleak and bitter existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:15 PM
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care to share any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 06:13 PM
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treating people differently according to their gender sounds like a bleak existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 04:07 PM
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If this is something men can't deal with, then they shouldn't have sex. It's that simple. or just use condoms/birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 01:38 PM
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Women have full autonomy over reproductive rights. takes two people to make a kid. i suspect if we dropped abstinence only education and taught actual sex ed the amount of dudes stuck supporting an unplanned kid would be drastically dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 01:37 PM
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men arent naturally stoic. women arent naturally attracted to stoicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 03:40 PM
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Pointing out that something is a social construct doesnt automatically mean it should change truth. most social constructs serve a good purpose. but then you have men experiencing higher rates of depression and suicide because society expects them to be stoic providing machines. the way we look at gender and gender roles needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 02:10 PM
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exactly. its both men and women. its a societal issue. its a side effect of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 02:08 PM
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as soon as men start to let emotions show, the manosphere blames feminism for making men too emotional. Red Pill tells men to "man up, pussy" more than any other group. the manosphere is perpetuating the very grievances you're bringing up. this gender role that men have to be stoic manly-men is something that feminism is fervently against.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 07:12 PM
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emotion isnt a social construct. neither is hair. or rocks. these things arent subjective. take music. that's a social construct. where do you draw the line for what music is or isnt? some people consider dissonant noise to be music and some would argue otherwise. women grow long hair and wear pink, men are stoic providers. these are self imposed constructs that we've attached to people according to what genitalia they have. gender in this sense is a social construct and some would argue is dama…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 05:41 PM
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This is a war universe. War all the time. in the words of Maximus Renegade Starsoldier, maybe he needs that to be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:02 PM
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you can make any stereotype assumption about a big enough demographic and of course there will be people that inevitably reinforce that stereotype. you just have to put up a lot of blinders so you dont notice the many, many people that dont reinforce the stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 03:41 PM
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if your decision affects someone else of course they should be considered. personally i lean on my SO for advice and thoughts. theres a difference between having consideration for someone else and asking permission. ill grab drinks with friends after work and let her know/invite her but i wont ask for permission. same for the other way around. if one of us were thinking about a decision that would involve relocating or something that would entail a long conversation about what we both want and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:07 PM
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i know self-diagnosing over the internet is ill advised, but after googling hypomania it was like looking in a mirror. ive been feeling so off this part year and the wiki sounds pretty spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 05:26 PM
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i find that hard to believe. women are just as career oriented as men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 08:11 PM
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Not Your Father's Root Beer? Alcoholic seltzer water? just a thought, if you're interested
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:12 PM
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occasionally there are posts of women going nuts at a guy's rejection. its not like people are using this as an excuse to focus on guys. women just arent as cringy and aggressive on social media as dudes. (generally!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 02:10 PM
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Men are only ahead because we are better i cant imagine why some women want to go their own way when there are men that actually think like this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:55 PM
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well, its either due to institutional racism disenfranchising specific demographics, or those people just need to pull up their boot straps and not live in poverty!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 03:09 PM
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you also might not stay in a relationship very long if you keep your shit to yourself. or itll turn into festering resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:00 PM
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being able to open up to your partner is necessary for a healthy relationship. everyone here, as usual, seems to be stuck in "all-or-nothing-mindset" that the only possible scenario is the dude unloading everything onto the woman for her to fix. vulnerability requires trust. you must trust your partner enough to be able to open up to them. that's why they're called your partner, so you can help each other navigate life together. i get that men talking about their feelings is unattractive to some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 03:43 PM
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its safer to make assumptions like "well this person acted like this, so this similar person will probably act the same way" but one can have too much of a good thing, and just as ppl can eat themselves to death, ppl are likely to take steps from innocent assumptions to full-blown stereotypes that shape worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 03:31 PM
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yeh, just making the point that one isnt saying "you arent worth my time" when they dont date someone. in fact, that's black and white thinking: the idea that there are only two available possibilities (are/arent worth someones time) and its an actual sign of anxiety and/or depression. http://www.clinical-depression.co.uk/dlp/understanding-depression/all-or-nothing-or-black-and-white-thinking-and-depression/ thinking "they dont want me because im not worth their time" is an oversimplification an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:07 PM
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why though? if i choose Subway or McDonalds am I telling McDonalds its not worth my time? or do i simply prefer subway in that moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:16 PM
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truth. would you call it an inferiority complex? back in high school i definitely had insecurity/inferiority issues about not dating. i had lots of the anger described by incels towards dudes that were dating and women that werent dating me. i grew out of it in college tho, thank god. for me it was a weird complex of being angry at people enjoying life without even knowing i exist and anger at myself for not enjoying life as much as they seemed to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:10 PM
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Youd probably be shocked how many seemingly normal guys seethe with anger when they see soneone attractive with a guy who isnt them i think most people know this...this is why women are so quick to be creeped out by dudes. like, "oh shit, is this one of those dudes that'll crumble into rage if i reject his advances?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:53 PM
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idunno, some of them walk outside and feel rage at ppl for simply holding hands. i think their inner rage is a little more visible than most of them hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:09 PM
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aka anarcho-communist aka blue hair obese SJW aka skinny twink antifa aka "DURR PUNCH NAZIS" something tells me you arent very open to ideas opposing your worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:04 PM
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Call themselves princesses. They think being spoiled is a good thing desperation to be adored and pampered is a sure-sign of terrible self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:46 PM
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its not really a successful relationship if you aren't feeling a passive undercurrent of anxiety or dread on a regular basis or in my case, all the time. /s ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:41 PM
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My boyfriend and I approach things as a team. It's nice to have someone to count on ive had some rough periods of time over the past few years and have no idea how i'd have gotten through it without my SO. its nice to not have to take on life alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:41 PM
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it opens the door to new viewpoints, different challenges, and different context. breaking out of formula is how art evolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:47 PM
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So what has been behind this push? a board of directors determined female leads to be appropriate for their media based on audience data. having non-straight-white-dude leads is empowering to people that grew up not seeing themselves represented in media. it also creates drama for people that get pissed about it. Doctor Who has always been generic white dude with generic hot blonde sidekick. imo keeping things formulaic is a disservice to the audience. this is a good thing and opens the door to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:05 PM
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agreed. only having straight white dudes is a disservice to the audience imo. varying perspectives is important for art, especially underrepresented perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:00 PM
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star wars and mad max were ruined by female leads?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:58 PM
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women casually kissing is "hot" n "cool" and in every teen movie party scene ever but guys kissing is "gross"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:38 PM
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She should be free to do whatever she wants and a man should just show up and do things for her while being reassured she doesn't need him this has nothing to do with feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:30 PM
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Well, if you are being sexually assaulted, at some point the assault is over and you can try to begin healing. A false accusation comtinues to actively harm you for years. being raped can totally ruin someone's life and give way to a host of trauma-induced disorders that "false accusation victims" dont even begin to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 01:27 PM
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im convinced those terms mean very different things to each person, red pill or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:35 PM
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so we're all this mixture of environmental and biological influence, sure. you seem to be making to great leaps in logic by deciding that gender-norms are biological. what you're determining to be biologically based is actually culturally and politically based. Gender feminists firmly believe that it is all nurture. The consensus in the scientific community is the opposite: Cultural conditioning does play a part, but biologically we are a dimorphic species as far as i know, the science is pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:01 PM
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Why would you call someone who has a female name, who uses female pronouns, who acts, talks and dresses like a woman a man just because they have male chromosomes? You don't see their chromosomes, but you can perceive their gender expression. gr8 sentiment, i need to remember this!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 09:34 PM
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i often wonder how many adults there are that are trans but either dont realize it or are afraid of coming out. there are so many young people coming out as trans/nonbinary simply because its more accepted now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 09:29 PM
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However, why create different genders? It seems pointless to me. Why not just attack the concept that people should fit into strict gender roles? (I am not obviously talking about people with gender dysphoria. I am talking about people who think they belong to a different gender outside of male and female and want different pronouns etc. ) people that dont identify as male or female could indeed be feeling dysphoric and identifying as non-binary is their appropriate way to feel more themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 09:28 PM
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i have more female friends that i regularly hang out with, it has had little impact on me dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:09 PM
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the amount of ppl here that believe women and men cant be just friends without extra motives. i guess there's much worse here, but that mentality is always depressing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:40 PM
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damned equal rights!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 02:34 PM
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i have a very good friend from dubai. its insane. theyre paying her to just live in dubai. having more money than anyone could ever hope to spend is just business as usual since she was an infant and until she dies. of course, its ilegal for her to drive, be anywhere alone, or to drink or smoke...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 08:31 PM
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women who earned 95k plus still which would be enough be the breadwinner and potentially flip the traditional gender roles still had a 71% for preference for a parter with a steady income. In contrast only 14% of men earning 95k plus listed steady income as an essential. are there any studies as to how this compares to, say, 50 years ago? this context is crucial to your argument. i'd imagine that it would have been much higher than 71% and lower than 14%. times they are a-changing, and as we've …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:16 PM
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i think that's what most people want in a partner regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:07 PM
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c) Expecting a wife to actually, you know, BE A WIFE and not be a bitch f) Pointing out that letting women do and say whatever they want, wherever and to whomever they want, has been deleterious for society no misogyny here!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 05:37 PM
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Anyway, who is responsible for single parent households? soooo many things. improper sex ed leading to unplanned pregnancies. people just being shitty. otherwise well educated people that simply break up. It is female biology that is responsible for choosing shitty alpha mates with no financial security or personal integrity? i put the responsibility on people not knowing to have protected sex. that and people are dumb and dont know how hard raising a kid is and the toll it takes on relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:55 PM
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anyone can suck on someone's dick, but it takes a special intimacy to suck on someone's heart
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:49 PM
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there are a couple fundamental parts of RP such as dread game, negging, captain/first mate, and believing in hypergamy that are misogynistic and emotionally abusive that make RP inherently unethical. i realize not every red piller buys into that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 04:21 PM
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they are either old and spent their youth chasing AF and now have to live with the consequences or they are young and don't have high enough SMV+RMV to land a high-quality man. i dont think unhappy single-ness is specific to women or caused by hitting the wall or w/e. people that are unhappy to be single are generally experiencing the "grass is always greener on the other side" effect. people are also generally taught that "being in a relationship = happiness" whether or not that's actually true…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 03:19 PM
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its hard to tackle this post because everyone wants to talk about illegal prostitutes, as those are more prominent, more likely to be victimized, and living in bad conditions, but no one can mention that without OP saying "reread the title!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/17 02:37 PM
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i think women are still valued for their looks much more than men. in music, no one bats an eye if an ugly dude is making great music. james murphy can be a fat dude in a white shirt singing and everyone lauds him for being the musical genius he is. but i've heard soooo many dudes say "lady gaga? nah...she's ugly" and brush her off cause she doesnt give them boners same with comedy. men can make as many dick jokes as they want and be as ugly as they want (Louie CK) and people love them, but god …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 07:22 PM
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80% of men cant get laid?? its a wonder our species is still surviving and becoming overpopulated!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 12:10 AM
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depends on the day and my mood lol. sometimes i think i look a lot like a jeff mangum/win butler crossover not at all, trying to gain weight currently two 3, only one of which has been serious i go to basement DIY shows a lot, play concerts around town a lot, also record local bands too awkward and socially anxious for that jazz, i wish i wasnt tho. been in a relationship since halfway thru college so it hasnt been an issue anyway lol. i absolutely dont value people according to their n count, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 04:41 PM
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those relationship dynamics exist for people raised in more traditional/conservative families. more frequent in the midwest and south. younger generations seem more keen on independence. its now acceptable for women to be just as interested in being self-reliant and goal oriented as men. instead of getting married in the 22-24 age range, couples these days date casually until mid 20's and then move in together for a couple years and get married in their 30's when they are comfortable with their …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:41 PM
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Pushing an agenda that's harmful to men? (eg op "man up", encouraging frivolous rape/sexual assault accusations) isnt feminism usually against toxic masculinity phrases like "man up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:03 PM
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A very common phrase by feminists "once women have the good jobs they'll marry men for love!" this is a common phrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:59 PM
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dont they usually kill the males that are too aggressive? i dont think people give bonobos enough credit. they're more closely related to humans than any other primate and they're peaceful, matriarchal, and disown the alpha/beta concept. i feel like red pillers are very selective when they talk about the supposed "red pill" aspects of primates. i cant speak to whether or not bonobos act like that in the wild, or if that changes my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 02:18 PM
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i think the vast, vast majority of women that are aware of the situation care and hate chris brown. just as many men hate him too. but every celebrity has die-hard fans, and chris brown inevitably has a group of fans, men and women alike, who don't see his violence as reason to stop supporting him. maybe they were raised to not care about domestic violence. maybe some of them have rationalized it in their heads that Rhianna caused him to beat her. i dont think its a matter of "women biologically…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 07:41 PM
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Why is he still successful and loved by millions of women after he beat the shit out of his gf and has a history of being a dirt bag? people are more forgiving to abusers when they're celebrities? society as a whole doesnt care about domestic violence as much as we'd like to think? he just joins the long list of other male musical/athletic superstars that are violent abusers that people are quick to forgive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:45 PM
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1) nah 3) having grown up in catholic schooling i do resent the people that taught me to be terrified of sex and girls. i think if i were taught to have a healthy understanding of sex and realistic expectations (rather than "if you have sex your value as a human being will diminish) i would have had a much more fulfilling social life and i wouldnt have so many insecurities right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:48 PM
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i think its sorta useless to try to determine which gender is more insecure. i think it's probably a pretty even half and half. people can be insecure about their looks (check out the dudes at /r/incel for example) regardless of gender. people worry about their SO hanging out with the opposite gender and people are jealous of their past relationships and vent this insecurity in the form of controlling the other person and the relationship. To me it is clear the gender that suffers the most from …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 01:44 PM
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A biological role means more behavioral actions, like being respected for being strong or speaking up, being liked for looking feminine or masculine, being appreciated more for looks or not, tc. my only problem with this is that what is deemed "masculine and feminine" and "attractive" is usually reliant on the culture at the time. that's considered attractive now wasn't attractive 50 years ago and isnt what's considered attractive on the other side of the world (tho that's changing now as the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:05 PM
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If you are a person so fearful and unassertive that you can't tell a stranger No in a serious tone and stick to it then you have no business going alone to some stranger's house for "drinks". clearly being assaulted is the victim's fault!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/17 03:53 PM
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i can relate! i dont remember a stranger ever having such an emotional impact on me from afar
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:22 PM
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same with screening out dudes that lead girls on, i guess only difference is that men seem to consider slight attention as leading them on. in regards to that men should learn to understand the difference between flirting and simply being a nice person. best thing is to simply ask the person out (given reasonable circumstance). its pretty hard to lead someone on when they're being upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 06:29 PM
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And I don't want to hear "oh because he loves her" come on insurance reasons? idunno, like the point of getting married is love, thats sorta like asking "what makes boats float?? and i dont want to hear 'water' again!!" hehe but seriously, a dude could get married in order to benefit from someone else's insurance or the other way around. thats the only reason i can think of. these days less people are having worthwhile insurance and ppl dont want kids. marriage is becoming obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 04:51 PM
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what if that's just your way of not having to think about the double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 08:00 PM
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Sensible guys don't do that. They don't even care, there isn't a dearth of women, if one is reminsicing her ex you move onto another. 100% agree. Guys just have to look presentable and have a good career and they'll never run out of options. yep, ya gotta be a complete person before hoping to have a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:54 PM
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i think its funny that Red Pill talks about spinning plates and that every man wants to spread his seed around as much as possible and then in the same breath shame women for doing the same She isn't yours; it's just your turn an entire novel of insecurity and misogyny wrapped up into 7 words. men (and women!) wrapped up in this insecurity want to own their SOs without being owned. they want to have sex but only if they can be the focal point of that person's sex life. these men can't accept tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:33 PM
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or they just bury their emotions to simmer in subconscious resentment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:50 PM
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i think people these days tend to expect the honeymoon phase of relationships to last forever two people being soulmates isnt a circumstance that you "might find someday," its a decision and a commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:48 PM
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do you really think itd be a majority? i feel like that idea is a regional cultural stereotype: people believe it in more central/midwest blue states just because its a cultural stereotype doesnt mean its true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:25 PM
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Women are often viewed as being more hormonal because their hormones fluctuate widely and their mood changes with it. i think women are viewed as more hormonal so people dont have to take them seriously. instead of "oh Jenny from Marketing is on my case this week, i should try harder at my job!" people think "oh Jenny from Marketing is on my case this week, must be that time of the month!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:51 PM
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some people seem to believe that because women are supposedly more emotional they are less cut-out for positions of control, wether in a relationship or in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:49 PM
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When a girl finds out her boyfriend is looking at cam girls online, suddenly its very much cheating! people on there are actually pretty accepting of stuff like that. its just porn, and no one really cares about that unless its an established boundary, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 04:47 PM
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handmaid's tale would make for some interesting purplepilldebate threads!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:08 PM
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hell, kids arent only still doing drugs but they're doing harder drugs now. teenagers in suburbia are going thru heroin epidemics back in the Midwest. pot's becoming more and more acceptable so that's everywhere as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:55 PM
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people complained about other people being easily offended in the 80s. even earlier than that people complained about feminism. in 30 years people will still be making the same complaints about feminism, the current younger generation, PC culture, etc. only difference between now and the past is the fact that internet/video games is isolating everyone and polarizing viewpoints
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 05:53 PM
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arent men already pretty upfront? itd probably work out nicely for the men that act that way towards women that also wanna get laid, but itd also be very cringe-inducing when men act that way twards women who arent interested
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 02:17 PM
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'All men are pigs!' i feel like Red Pillers frequently say things like "all men want to be sexually aggressive" or "dont blame men for looking at women walking by who are showing skin" and to me that is as equally as derogatory as "all men are pigs," at least to the extent of saying that men cant control their sexual urges
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 01:54 PM
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"if women didnt dress like that they wouldnt be objectified!" is absolutely blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 01:45 PM
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oh hey, look at that! trump is 23 years older than melania.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:39 PM
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its certainly a little weird to go to the supermarket dressed like you're going to a club, but its not her fault that dudes are objectifying. some women dont even need to "dress up" to be cat called or objectified GF was wearing a normal fucking T shirt and some dude walked by rubbing his stomach and winking at her. it was too hilarious to get mad at. i think dudes just dont want to confront the fact that they cant stop themselves from sexualizing strangers so they blame it on the strangers. not…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:15 PM
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I wouldn't have hated him for having affairs i care as much about bill getting laid as i care about trump getting peed on: not at all. if its all consensual, who cares? perjury is illegal and impeachable, no sympathy for bill there. also no sympathy for Trump being held accountable for his "grab her by the pussy " comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 04:29 PM
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or society is generally inclined to take female employees less seriously ???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:56 PM
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clearly a representation of all women! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:55 PM
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Trump made clear his opinions on women. He gets a pass unfortunately :P Clinton clearly had sex, and made clear his opinions on women. what were those opinions? simply having sex isnt prejudice or sexist at all, i think thats the disconnect between you and the rest of this thread. we're having trouble calling what clinton did "sexist" but its pretty easy to call Red Pill Founder "All Feminists Want to Be Raped" Robert Fisher sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:24 PM
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tbf, after growing up in an age of James Bond and Indiana Jones type of movies where women mostly play the role of "damsel in distress," making an effort to portray women as leads without love interests is pretty worthwhile
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 01:42 PM
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tbf OP isnt asking what sounds most realistic but what most reflects RP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:11 PM
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i think our society imposes very toxic standards on ppl with dicks as they grow up and some deal with that by identifying as women like, i often wonder how transgenderism can exist when gender is a social construct. i think its because what society expects of both genders for their genders is pretty insane (men MUST be stoic, women MUST be submissive, etc) so of course that'll cause dysphoria in some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 06:38 PM
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seems like some people genuinely cant imagine both people doing equal part house chores
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/17 05:52 PM
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but what about house of congress? senate? urban ghetto shithole :P i sense some bias
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:44 PM
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you have to explain why Black women or whoever you plan on replacing whitey with would do better they would more accurately represent views that are best for women and people of color. would you feel comfortable with a team of exclusively women deciding what's best for men's health?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 05:26 PM
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the point of democracy is to have the government accurately represent the citizens having all white dudes represent a country that is only 31% white dudes is sort of whack
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:45 PM
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i think you're missing the point. sexualizing a picture of headphones just shows how aloof some people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:52 PM
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in some areas primary economically they have more power than men. But because feminists are so hung up over traditional forms of power, meaning seats of power, they don't see this how so? also, why are you dismissive towards "seats of power?" a mostly traditional white dude government is a big deal and something that needs to change, regardless of a movement getting bad PR.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:48 PM
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those articles were written by traditional and conservative-minded people projecting their own personalities onto the world and linking to other Elite Daily articles as sources. its the same level of advice you'd get from Cosmo. second link has some studies linked that mostly confirm "people like hooking up with attractive people but have more standards when it comes to personality for long-term." your linked article also glances over the part of the study saying "more than one half also reporte…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:41 PM
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How many times have we seen motivational advertisements that say a woman succeed because she over came a man? Plenty. How many times have we seen motivational advertisements that say a woman succeeded because of her commitment to self-improve through education (math, science, the arts, English, medicine, supply chain management, etc.). tbh, with how many people (men and women alike) there are that honestly believe "women arent mentally cut out for STEM" "I wouldnt trust a female doctor/pilot as …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:32 PM
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especially towards women in "male spaces." people are able to look past looks if theres a dude that's a great comedian or musician. if theres a woman that's also a good comedian or musician people are pretty vocal about judging their appearance first and their art second.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:32 PM
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They should all be gassed of course idk if this should go to /r/cringe or /r/killthosewhodisagree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:28 PM
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thats probably why he pays...he makes more money isnt that what red pill wants? men to play the role of provider and women be caretakers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:20 PM
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yeh if you edited it to sound like it was written by a woman it'd be labeled as misandric lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 01:57 PM
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yehhhhh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 08:40 PM
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nah, a white lady doesnt have female privilege but she does have white privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:50 PM
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What's funny is that women need to be that outlier every time if it inquiry is focused on them. i think that makes sense. inevitably when you generalize there will be many people that the generalization doesnt apply to and they will come forward. its not a gendered issue. just like when Red Pill ppl say "all men want to be dominant in their relationship," there will inevitably be people that that doesnt apply to and they will come forward
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:47 PM
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yeh i think people here are more interested in saying things that dismiss the "other side" than say something that takes the entire story into account ahaha when a RP states that all women find muscular men attractive. "all x do this" generalizations are usually taken very literally and i think that's why they get shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:05 PM
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people can very easily be attracted to fit manly-men and sensitive hipsters as the same time. attraction is rarely black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 03:32 PM
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being killed by police isnt really a fear that affects most day-to-day decisions with most men. sure, more men are killed, but most (white) men are able to walk around cops without being afraid. it doesnt hinder my life at all. i digress, female privilege doesnt exist. white privilege does, which lotsa women benefit from, but society is still very much built around the men's experience. women still have more obstacles due to their gender on a day-to-day basis than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 01:29 PM
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“I’ll tell you this: I’d take my wife’s name in an instant, but only if it meant avoiding that male birth control stuff that plugs up your sperm tubes. That whole process sounds really unpleasant, not to mention untested on a 10-year time horizon. really funny how men react to the possibility of having male brth control available and how they usually speak about it as if it'll be forced ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:17 PM
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some people dont feel in control or validated in their lives (for whatever reason) so they fill that void with finding someone needy that they can control or receive validation from
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:10 PM
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feminism has been the main proponent in the idea of "no means no" and affirmative consent. thats HUGE in terms of spreading awareness and establishing boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:06 PM
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because society has convinced itself that men being raped by women is a laughing matter, that women arent imposing enough to rape, etc. its perpetuated by people that legitimately believe women are weaker, that all men are desperate for sex, that men inherently have higher sex drives... there are a lot of people that argue that rape is, by definition, a penis entering someone without their will. like, i get it, but i think its pretty dumb. thats one of those things i havent seen beyond crazy tum…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 11:04 PM
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same as for men, i lose respect for people when they are negative about everything and self absorbed, also condescending.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 03:33 PM
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men that are fixated in gender roles are probably more likely to date down so they feel validated as providers but people seem to care about that less and less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 03:01 PM
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red pill is shamed for abusive tactics like negging, dread game, and pushing thru LMR also shamed for fostering a pretty hateful mentality towards men and women also shamed for holding women to double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:44 PM
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yes, if she's cool as heck and likes the same songs i like Why you find n count relevant or irrelevant when it comes to marriage/dating? i think its pretty naiive to want to be the focus of someone's entire sexual history. its insecure and unrealistic. live in the now, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:52 PM
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sorta sad that we hafta congratulate ppl for simply not being annoying. good for the dude for being aware and not imposing himself on a stranger. still, i dont think it wouldve been bad to just say "cool i like that author too!" and move on with your lives, maybe some chatter if shes open to it. its not like "talk with this stranger until shes uncomfortable" and "dont engage at all" are the only two options available.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:30 PM
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EXACTLY. this idea that "emotion is womanly!" is what turns men into depressed workaholics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:14 PM
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irony is that im much taller than my GF and we've had a laugh before about how its usually the case
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 01:27 PM
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vast majority of people here seem to have minimum heights. well thats depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:41 PM
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I could never have respect for someone I'd wanna fuck. wat? why? are you only able to have sex with ppl you think you're superior to ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 01:53 PM
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god forbid the patriarchy is mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 05:55 PM
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i think this idea that "men are providers and shouldnt take care of children" is just as dehumanizing and objectifying towards men as "women are here for men's pleasure and care-taking" is towards women having less defined gender roles means people are generally more able to do what they want. men and women can both be a mix of providers and caretakers according to their individual abilities. if a dude still wants to be a straight-on provider for the family that's fine, but otherwise is fine too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 04:15 PM
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i know lots of dudes with these absurd and slightly racist standards lotsa dudes seem to have this problem of designing the perfect mate in their heads right down to the T which not only sets them up for inevitable disappointment but also holds them back from seeing the other sex as human beings its one thing to want to find someone to enjoy anime together, its one thing to want to find someone with similar religious beliefs, but specifically wanting a certain race and someone that doesnt "talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:42 PM
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im very curious as to where the narrative "liberal women love islam" comes from it seems pretty clear to me that the main message is "dont be xenophobic and dont discriminate," not "give radical violent people free reign to do what they want"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 02:33 PM
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http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/costanza-clapping.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 01:56 PM
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1-4 i would be as supportive as i can and be with her every step we've both tried vegetarianism/veganism and we both failed miserably, if she went vegan i would still continue eating dairy and meat without much problem, if she imposed her vegan-ism on me that would have to have a talk ahaha 5 probably break up, i dont want to be involved with a religious person 6 be happy happy for her and as supportive as possible, depression is hell. probably offer for her to go to the gym with me but wouldnt …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:40 PM
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or maybe society has always been mostly bi or otherwise and people simply dont feel the need to hide who they are anymore i doubt androgyny will ever grow beyond the small group of people that it is today...all that will change is that being androgynous might not be so controversial in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:31 PM
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men dont seem to care arent there load of Red Pillers that argue that men only want super young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 05:40 PM
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Are you monogamous? What about your partner? we have a closed relationship but neither are "truly monogamous" and im not sure that i know any couples that are. Do monogamous relationships or marriages do better than ones that are not? ive seen poly and mono relationships fail and succeed alike, its reliant on what the individuals want out of a relationship. some people dont like the idea of sex with only one person forever and for other people thats all they want. whatever floats your boat! Do y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 07:51 PM
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men arent judged as much for their appearance. tons of people say shit like "i hate amy schumer, shes so ugly" while seth rogan is considered lovable and adorable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:14 PM
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1) no direct links between brain structure and functionality. that study seems to be more concerned with bigger brain = more prone to mental disorders (schizophrenia, antisocial-ness, etc...) 2) so 30% of women have tried to take someone's dude and "Individuals who are more committed to both their relationship and partner should be less likely to respond to other sexual offers, and should be less likely to pursue attractive alternatives." i dont see your 90/59% figure anywhere. also keep in mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 03:08 PM
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im confused, the second is about mate poaching/women wanting men who are already in relationships. what does that have to do with conflicts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 02:18 PM
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i think its coo, i wish it didnt cater to male interests so much. it also potentially gives people wrong expectations about sex. i wish there was some way to help professional porn actors, it seems like a rough life sometimes. blame it on bad porn or bad sex ed but i didnt even know women orgasmed until my early 20s. in every porn it just stops once the guy's done. i thought thats how it was supposed to be. ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 01:53 PM
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being attacked is pretty different from being rejected i think. i agree that society says that. but its still entitlement. hopefully those men can eventually realize that "be yourself" and "dont be an asshole" is simply the bare minimum of how to be a good/genuine person. if you're "being yourself" and "not being an asshole" just to get a girlfriend you arent really being those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 02:26 PM
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being angry when you dont get something, even in all the examples you provided, still constitutes entitlement to me. even if you work for something you still arent entitled for it. the thing is most nice guys act like simply decent people and consider that "working hard" to get a relationship. they are simply "nice guys," nothing more nothing less. maybe you and i have different definitions of "working hard" to get a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 01:47 PM
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100% of congress, 98% of presidents, 91% of CEOs are white men. how do you determine "success" of a demographic? As for men specifically being the most successful. That's a case of life choices and women still enjoy the bulk of the benefits of that success without most of the consequences. that's an easy way to dismiss the fact that many countries now and thru history have barred women from participating in politics, education, and the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 06:08 PM
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yuh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 02:01 PM
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men are easily the most successful demographic in the world. white men in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 01:53 PM
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ever see a dude get cut off on the road? talk about hysterics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 01:47 PM
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My point is that because women want to take power without having to actually work for it (i.e. just complain until someone gives it to you), they will never actually have enough power to do anything meaningful thats a pretty casual dismissing of one of the largest civil rights movements in history dontcha think? and at a time when women's healthcare and general views towards women are so threatened among so other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:18 PM
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its not that everything is specifically your or my fault but that we benefit the most from a system that unfairly favorites our demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:13 PM
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whenever people hate a group of women its usually a lot to do with their sex lives. people hate dudes when they're shitty people, but their sex lives is rarely a part of it. hence the misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 01:24 PM
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feminists that perpetuate ideas contrary to feminism are in fact damaging to the cause and only create more divide. hopefully rather than ignoring them people call them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:08 PM
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feminism has done away with gender roles. i think a lot of the depression men experience is due to their value being associated with their aggressiveness, stoicism, and sex lives. men are also expected to be providers rather than caretakers, a gender role that leads to men being seen as unfit to take care of children. this all paired with the fact that men are seen as lesser/feminine if they express themselves emotionally leads to men not knowing how to deal with their emotions and communicate p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:04 PM
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yeh, "feminism" is a pretty big mixture of people with different ideas. its better to realize that many feminists have different ideas of what feminism is than to call people out when they inevitably have conflicting ideas with other people in the same large group. same as red pill i suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:57 PM
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even feminists will resort to insults targeting a man's ability to get sex, looks, or assertiveness then they arent real feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 05:41 PM
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most blue pillers enjoy Red Pill in the same way people enjoy reality shows. its outrage porn. you get to be angry and think to yourself "how can this be real???" and feel all self-righteous about yourself i'll shamefully admit. As with reality shows it can be pretty mentally unhealthy to spend lots of time reading red pill as outrage porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:37 PM
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people are publicly supportive of liberal causes, but are racists when dating sorta funny that that comic expresses an element of intersectional feminism ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 03:19 PM
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i find people interpret my tone a lot more violently than i intend it on here ahaha how does having previous partners matter specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 07:29 PM
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you equate having past partners with mass genocide? that explains a lot about red pillers, actually...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:46 PM
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some people have many more partners in a lifetime and that's normal too. its perfectly possible to have lots of partners and still be capable of having a relationship. if you meet someone and you have a great relationship, who cares if they had many or no partners before you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:14 PM
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because its wrong to judge people for having sex like normal people. that's pretty different from saying "i like blonde hair" or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 03:08 PM
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doesnt it sorta make sense that someone who studied gender disparities is more aware of gender disparities?
/r/PussyPassDenied14/03/17 08:06 PM
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Men are valued for who they are and women are valued for what they look like. i agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 02:02 PM
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i feel like women that go into those jobs arent taken seriously and most people trust men to do those jobs more. women have a lil' more of an uphill battle in that sense. this comment is pure speculation, i might as well point out ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 03:59 AM
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If you mean BDD, then there's no positive correlation between BDD and being an incel. Most BDD sufferers are women, and yet women are never incel. At the same time, most male sufferers of BDD aren't incel either. yep thats what i meant. idunno, some of them genuinely believe they have disfigured cheekbones and noses when in reality they look completely normal. im very convinced its BDD in some shape. i wouldnt be surprised if theres some incarnation of it in men. Again, there is a very clear cau…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:36 PM
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i want to make a shirt that says "FEMALES WITH HIGH QUALITY GENES"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:29 PM
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lots of them seem to suffer from dysmorphia, depression, avoidance personality, anxiety, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 09:13 PM
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because there are a whole lot of men that have no sexist bias in the workplace, because there are dudes like /u/LeaderOfGamergate that straight up admit they dont respect women's authority, and because its not that hard to make yourself not have sexist bias, im inclined to believe that this is a learned behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/17 03:10 PM
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3 months jail time is a pretty lenient sentence for raping someone who was passed out. That's not to condone what he did or try to elicit sympathy but a lot of people do list those things to elicit sympathy as if he's some sort of victim
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 07:12 PM
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add it to the list of men's movements that only exist as a reaction to women's movements :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 02:42 PM
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This is an actual secure woman, she will have no problem trying to please you or for making you lunch because frankly she knows her worth and doesn't feel the need to project her value at every given opportunity. SIW are more prone to "bitching" as well because they interpret even lighthearted humor as an attack on them(as they're so insecure), meaning if you prefer women that are actually nice to have around SIW are not for you. what an oddly specific hypothetical description you have there! i …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/17 02:37 PM
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its almost as if people are attracted to different kinds of people!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:51 PM
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ive learned that the point is that most men are raised to believe that a "no" can turn into a "yes" with some persistence. men are generally raised to believe that if a woman is wearing revealing clothing she is looking to get laid and/or inviting men to make advances. men are raised to believe that its alright to make rape jokes and say shit like "grab her by the pussy" in the company of other men. there's a mentality in society that raises men to be more sexually aggressive than women. seeing …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 03:23 PM
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most men are insecure that they arent pleasing their SO enough, that she'll leave them for someone with a bigger d, and so on. men often need to feel validated that they're the only person their SO is interested in. the idea that their SO has slept with other men disturbs this validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:34 PM
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if every woman stopped working for one day it would be extreme chaos just as if men stopped working but most dudes would still just say "ugh dumb feminists dont they know men run the world" like in this circle jerk thread edit: thinking about this again i doubt either gender would cause chaos...probably "temporary inconvenience" is more likely except for a few select situations
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 02:31 PM
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Plus he hasn't really done anything bad to me ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 04:02 PM
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literally tho !
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 03:55 PM
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humans are hard wired to respond to games much better than "actual communication." nah, actual communication is often uncomfortable and confrontational. real communication requires you to look at yourself and hold yourself accountable. that's hard to do. red pill tactics dont give a shit about the other person. its easy to only care about yourself and dread game your SO into submission instead of talking about tough issues. its easier to dismiss your partner when she says "i dont like when you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:13 PM
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negging, dread game, and being emotionally withdrawn are all incredibly passive aggressive Red Pill tactics. passive aggression is to do things that on the surface seem normal but is actually negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 09:05 PM
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that definitely happens. i've never experienced it myself tho. granted blue pill literally exists on linking to Red Pill posts... but the inevitable people being assholes on the internet is a pretty different kind of spite than an entire group agreeing "single mothers are scum" and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:44 PM
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i thought he hated blue pill and feminism? or he tried to be part of blue pill but got turned away a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 08:35 PM
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they are some mean, spiteful people and red pill isnt?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 07:55 PM
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By having a blue flair all that signals is you don't agree that men should improve themselves and gain a better understanding of female sexual strategy to help themselves get laid. i guess so, the idea that all women are little puzzles to be solved is bullshit to me. just improve yourself for the sake of improving yourself, dont obsess over having sex. that pollutes your mind. its unhealthy for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 04:46 PM
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Would even a radical feminist respond well to dominant behavior? sure, its possible to be dominant without being abusive. sometimes its a thin line. hopefully people can be in those sort of relationships without making grand generalizations about genders. there are also lots of people that like dominant behavior but not necessarily in their partner or other relationships. I was thinking about it and I had two friends who had problems in their relationships specifically because the guy was not in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 04:51 PM
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What is the self interested reasons that feminists appear to be preserving when they cry about their "moral outrage" towards men's sexual desires in terms of thin, younger fertile women? if those sexual desires involve unwanted objectification or advances you can bet yer briches its a feminist issue i think everyone experiences that sweet sweet taste of "im so morally righteous and those people are WRONG and it feels so good to feel RIGHT" and it is not exclusive to feminists. have you ever seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 02:41 PM
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there are lots of people that are able to see everyone as people regardless of gender and they're able to interact simply and genuinely there are lots of people that arent used to interacting with the opposite gender without trying to fuck them, which creates sexual tension. i feel like these people are more likely to buy into gender roles and stereotypes. Most sexual assault and rape occurs at the hands of acquaintances and friends, not strangers. Most men are decent people, but it's difficult …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 08:46 PM
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i honestly cant believe anyone's taking this post seriously..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 02:44 PM
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why the fuck are you doing getting drunk and dressing like a supermodel around random, unknown men?! because people like to look good when they go out and they like to drink, neither are an invitation to be sexually assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 01:32 AM
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so you value people's opinions more based on their attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 03:14 PM
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you seldom see feminists involved in male dominated interests like motorcycle tuning or DIY electronics or even proficiently playing a musical instruments like the guitar and devoting their time and money to amps, effects, gears etc. cause when they try they see a bunch of dudes dismissing them as "just in it for the attention" and "getting more attention just because of boobs" lol. also as long as everyone is raised to believe those things are for dudes, the more we'll continue to see gender di…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:49 PM
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If your critique of TRP involves shaming men for being unmanly (i.e. calling them 'insecure nerds' and mocking them for being scared of women), you will end up further encouraging TRPers to be TRPers. TRP shames men a whole lot more than TBP. Every time Red Pillers same "beta men" or "cucks" or "orbiters" they are shaming men and their sexuality. its pretty vile. Blue Pill seems to have slowed way down in useless name-calling in the past year as well. anyone else notice this trend in conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 05:13 PM
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broad generalizations about "women" that are not grounded in serious peer-reviewed science broad generalizations about men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 02:13 PM
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At what age was your first date, and how was it? we hung out in the basement piano room in college (i was 20 i think?) and played our favorite songs At what age do you consider it odd when a person has never dated, either failed to get a date, or has no success whatsoever? i dont think age is super relevant. i feel like most people have some phase of bitterness about the opposite gender when they're young, and the older they get without overcoming that bitterness/obsessiveness the more "odd" the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:46 PM
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Sure, I make the final say 100% of the time to most blue pill ppl this traditional mindset sounds very dismissive of your wife and even condescending
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 03:00 PM
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yeh, im surprised its not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 02:52 PM
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sigh of relief
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 07:47 PM
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i dont think consent to pregnancy is a thing...the baby is the father's offspring and contains his DNA whether he consents or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:15 PM
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The father in question is not responsible for the pregnancy because the woman has the choice of whether or not to have the pregnancy. He cannot dictate whether the pregnancy goes through, the woman does. The woman has the authority over herself and her room. i dont think there's any answer that will nicely wrap up pregnancy as "everyone has equal control" because the fact of the matter is that 1) this is happening to the woman's body and not the man's and 2) the man is the legal father its up to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 02:28 PM
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seriously, dont draw conclusions from reality TV they audition and select people according to what would make for the craziest and most zany television
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:11 PM
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dont u kno that women would just argue the whole time and not get anything done so obviously they couldnt sustain?????????????????????
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:09 PM
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the only conclusion i take from that data is that there should be aid for single mothers to make sure their kids have access to proper education, be able to afford housing in good environments, and to be able to be around to actually raise their kids. a single mother that has no choice but to work two jobs, live in cheap housing in a dangerous gang-ridden neighborhood, and afford less than stellar education is the perpetuation of poverty. this is the environment that creates criminals and "dange…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 04:59 PM
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use it as an excuse to get each other a nice gift, maybe go out for a drink, but not make that much of a deal out of it. im sorta cynical about holidays that seem to only exist to sell merch ahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 03:17 PM
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it might be reflective of your social skills, but not your value! thinking your value is dependent on how much you get laid is a very terrible and destructive way of thinking that we should try hard to extinguish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:41 PM
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feminism is more like the mother doing everything she can to raise both of her kids well in the household of a very abusive dad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:48 PM
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yeh if you're worried about your daughter being a "hypergamous CC-riding beta bux marrying alpha widow" then the problem is probably on your end, not hers
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:50 PM
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SAME THO thx conservative midwest
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 03:49 PM
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not able to find the comment section, but it seems that the dude is in fact a controlling asshole who wants a beautiful servant more than a wife. the fact that he makes her check in with him before leaving the house and tells her how specifically to clean windows is telling of his controlling behavior. of course no one should mooch off on anyone with no effort in return. that doesnt seem to be the case here. she makes food and takes care of the house, just not to the ridiculous standards he seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 06:28 PM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=worn+clothing+on+men&espv=2&biw=1589&bih=859&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8m6KUsu3RAhVGPCYKHU6ZBx4Q_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=mens+torn+jeans in my speculative opinion its most popular in people born after 2000 and in hip hop fans, cause of the Kanye West fashion line
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 10:06 PM
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im pretty sure dudes wear worn clothing too also funny when people put in an extra few hundred $$ for a guitar that looks more used than another
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 09:15 PM
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American society would rather children be violent than sexually active. i blame the generation of combo bible-thumpers and gun toters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 05:16 PM
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Apparently men are mindless drones that want to get their dicks wet 24/7 this is a sentiment Red Pill supports a lot. they call men the rational gender but admit that they themselves let their sexual impulse influence most of their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 03:55 PM
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there it is. i feel like people only bring up false accusations to demonize women. until people develop the capacity to discuss false accusations without diminishing real rape no one will want to discuss false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:55 PM
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the amount of anger many men have towards women for calling themselves "strong and independent" makes me assume they are motivated by fear i guess at this point in the conversation we've gone into speculative territory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 09:53 PM
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but some men hate the idea of having a partner that calls herself "strong and independent" which is the topic at hand. maybe they're not afraid of the woman exactly, but they are afraid of having a partner that's independent and not dependent on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:28 PM
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probably 'cause it doesnt happen enough to worry people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:27 PM
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i dont think people are afraid of false accusations the ways Red Pillers and MRAs talk. IMO men are more afraid of having partners that arent dependent on them. "if she's independent, she doesnt really need me and might be thinking about other men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 04:25 PM
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;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:44 PM
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maybe men would feel less abused by society if it were socially acceptable for us to compliment each other like that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:26 PM
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Yeah I guess all that old wisdom and wisdom of current day China/Islam/Africa/Latin America are all wrong? that "wisdom" is useless now. why do we need to continue thinking in ways that actively oppresses people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:49 PM
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What is misogynist about what was said in that video by China's own female agency? its misogynistic to say that women are valued according to their age/appearance and how marriage-worthy they are. usually things that involve drawing conclusions about people without interacting with them is considered prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:47 PM
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i think the consensus isnt that RP is fake, its that its misogynistic. IMO Red Pill is just an exaggeration of the patriarchal conservatism and traditionalism that's already been around for generations
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 04:02 PM
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so you think men just dont have the capacity to genuinely care about things that dont benefit them or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 03:48 PM
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trump won landslide in all other 49 states? what about vermont, new york, MA, maryland, etc? trump was a landslide in the expected red states, sure. thanks to the electoral college one alabama vote is worth more than many new york votes. that doesnt change the fact that less people voted for trump and that he thinks its appropriate to grab women by their genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 07:14 PM
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Watching people protest the results of a democratic election is pretty embarrassing i think its pretty understandable when trump lost the popular vote by almost 3 million. trump supporters are the minority but he still won. its also understandable that women's rights supporters want to protest a president that obviously has no concern for women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 04:32 PM
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only on reddit can people watch abortion potentially become illegal, funding for women's healthcare scrapped, and a raging misogynist be inaugurated and then say "feminisms over! what more do women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 02:47 PM
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do you only shoot the shit with men you wanna fuck too, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:40 PM
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id be interested in hearing red pillers give a ratio of how much they talk to women for the sake of shooting the shit like how theyd talk to other dudes vs how much they talk to women for the sake of sexual pursuit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:12 PM
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people are never as helpless as they think. owning up to the fact that you're not helpless usually also means owning up to having been lazy, which can be difficult. most incels seem like decently attractive people that convince themselves theyre helpless and refuse to listen to advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 04:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re72di5phM0
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 09:19 PM
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i always saw BP as saying "all people are individual and need to be treated as such" and RP being the one that said "gender defines how you act and thing, all women are like that, all men think like that, etc"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:55 PM
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Why view women as a collective like BP does already i thought BP was all about "everyone's individual and generalizations dont work" while Red Pill was more "all women are like that, all men think like this and need this" etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:54 PM
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as far as i know, feminisms all about "if everyone's a consenting adult and no one is being harmed, who cares?" so idk why you think feminism is against any of it older men and older women are viewed differently in society. women are seen as less dangerous and innocent. fuck gender roles, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:21 PM
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i mean, if you have obsessive body image issues as that person has, therapy is the most realistic answer. the person in the link said themselves they wont try working out because it wont help their shoulder bones or something. that sounds like a dysmorphic disorder. you cant bench press yourself out of a disorder, but working with a certified therapist can help lots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 06:12 PM
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i see people saying "work out, better yourself" how is that bad? imo the only worthwhile advice in there is the person urging him to get therapy, that dude definitely has issues probably including dysmorphic disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 05:54 PM
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Why is this called high maintenance? It's more like, the dude is expressing his standards and wants her to do things. if a woman told a Red Pill dude to do things for her like that he would lose his shit men expect women to coddle their short tempers and pretend like being emotionally withdrawn isnt abuse. women have lots more to put up with in heteronormative relationships its also very hilarious to me how few Red Pill dudes seem able to cook for themselves and keep their rooms clean
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:30 PM
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intentionally not interacting with your partner and intentionally talking to other women so that your partner sees, for the intention of making her worry about losing you to another woman, is playing with emotions and insecurities. emotional manipulation/abuse is an asshole thing to do. passing shit tests: red pill men are urged to be condescending, patronizing, or entirely dismissive when their partners bring up issues to be discussed. being dismissive/patronizing towards your partner over rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:19 PM
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im pretty healthy and take care of myself. beyond that i've caught myself "dread gaming" without realizing it which is usually cause for self-reflection and figuring out why im being an asshole Red Pill is useful for me in the sense that it really deconstructs abusive behavior that most men grow up learning. its a good guide in how NOT to have good mental health and strong relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:08 PM
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i dont see how that negates my point liberal areas typically teach how condoms work, how birth control works, how sex works, and those areas see less unplanned pregnancies. conservative areas teach "sex is bad, wait until marriage" and those areas see waaaay more unplanned pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:08 PM
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that is what many inexperienced men think keeps a woman in a relationship. agreed. it really annoys me when dudes that know how to cook/clean expect to be put on some pedestal in their relationship. thats just basic standard of being a person. Hence the slew of sad sacks who focus on being subservient as opposed to actually being exciting in a relationship. being able to cook/clean hardly means you're subservient in any way shape or form. these ideas that "being able to maintain a household = fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 04:04 PM
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why not just do it to be a functioning human being that can take care of themselves? why does it have to serve the purpose of being exciting?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:43 PM
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Why slut shame, people ask. Well, because everyone, including women, will feel cheated having to pay for something others received for free if a woman doesnt have sex with everyone tho, is she still a slut????? seriously tho, your argument boils down to "im frustrated and insecure that women have the right to turn me down" which is pretty entitled. stop feeling entitled to women and you will stop being angry at women for being as sexual and as human as yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 02:38 PM
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unwanted pregnancies also happen to be the highest in areas where they teach abstinence-only sex ed rather than real sex ed. 1 way to cut down on single mothers? better sex ed and access to family planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:12 PM
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it's normal for most people to want their own kids to resemble themselves as much as possible is "i want my kids to be like me" involves "i want my kids to be white" thats racist. you can rationalize it however you want in your head but in the end of the day if you specifically want your kids to be white and not any other skin color you are prejudice. But when it comes to sex no one cares about unequal distribution of it anyway hence "incels aren't entitled to sex." some people probably do find …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:55 PM
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being attracted exclusively to your own race is racist. even if you were raised that way its still racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 07:09 PM
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our western culture generally says white = beautiful/normal and if you have attraction to a person of color you have a fetish. i've also heard a lot of white people say "i'm not racist, im just not attracted to black people" they arent oppressed because it may be harder to date, but people's attitudes towards people of color are more a symptom of that discrimination. or something
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 06:54 PM
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i live in an extremely feminist college town and just got back from visiting home, a very conservative Trump supporting BLM-hating and feminism-despising town. i run into lots of the most polarized people ahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:57 PM
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how does red pill feel about women wanting kids less?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:05 PM
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even chad dread games his gf cause hes afraid of Chad.0 coming around
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 12:19 AM
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so we have to accept sex-positive women publicly but, the reality is no man wants a slut for a wife. Sorry. reality is that most men are adults and dont give a shit about their partner's history. how many partners does a woman need to have in her lifetime before she's a "slut" by your standards? historically, older men have married owned younger women FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 06:18 PM
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the idea is that people often rush into getting married in their 20s without having dated enough people to know what kinda partner they really want. also, as others said, youngsters usually arent prepared for the commitment of marriage http://family-studies.org/want-to-avoid-divorce-wait-to-get-married-but-not-too-long/ ppl that wait to marry in their 30s have a much lower risk of divorce than ppl that marry in their 20s thinking that women are used up at 27 is a leftover idea from when women we…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:00 PM
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A male obtains no obligation from his "wife" for cooking, cleaning, housework, sex, etc. In fact, she owes him literally NOTHING under the current marriage contract while he is on the hook financially. are men assumed to not know how to cook and clean and do housework? why do you see sex as something women give men? ha What benefit does a man have in become a "stable marriageable male" for women? having someone to spend your life with and experience valuable experiences with. seeing relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:47 AM
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depends on how insecure the dude is i know red pillers see that as a "fallback" answer for blue pillers, but i think its legit. the only way a successful women would make a man uncomfortable is if he's insecure with himself and needs his partner to be dependent on him to feel validated. edit: also, it seems like having a partner with a career would be the red piller's ideal. you get to keep all your money for yourself. you're both independent. sometimes she pays for your meals and you pay for he…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 05:26 AM
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red pillers also like to forget about species of animals that very deliberately dont have alpha hierarchies. like the bonobos. as/more closely related to us as gorillas, but matriarchal and very much existing in the face of alpha/beta hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 07:24 PM
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the weakest men are in general, stronger than the strongest women. its 2016, strength doesnt mean jack shit in terms of being valuable to society. bill gates probably cant lift more than 50 pounds lol Studies have determined differences in earning capacity are due to a lack of negotiation skill. probably because most people are raised to not take women as seriously as men. or do you think men are naturally selected to be better negotiators? that sounds pretty crazy to me. Women claim to be equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 07:20 PM
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I say blue pillers smoke weed, they seem less angry and more chill ahaha. I think feminists are a little more rebellious and more likely to smoke cigs too. I smoke everything a lot ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:00 PM
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ive seen a trend of Red Pillers having masculinity so fragile that they put the responsibility on their wives once in a while theres a Red Pill Wife thread congratulating themselves when they dont tell their husbands what to do, no matter how mundane and innocent it is. husbands that lose it when their wifes tell them what to do is fragile masculinity. men whose masculinity is disturbed by women earning more than them is fragile masculinity. once i had a roomate asking my girlfriend about her cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:48 PM
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men are more aggressive and confrontational. they have more intense road rage and get angry waaaay more easily. while we're being speculative i say men are more dramatic. "harder to please" may be a little too open ended for me to really consider. that seems more of an individual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:57 PM
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best thing for conversation is finding someone who shares the same sense of humor having things in common doesnt mean shit. sometimes you meet someone that has nothing in common but its a great conversation cause you have more to talk about and learn about it also helps a lot to just be genuinely interested in the person...not trying to figure out how to neg her or insult her into liking you or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:50 PM
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i think "chad" is often an excuse for someone so they dont have to confront the fact that they are a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:50 PM
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most people wont care or notice and racists will be pretty angry, ha. maybe "white" will cease to be a standard of beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:42 PM
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feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive wot in the hell, where did u get that conclusion? "fat people shouldnt get hate for their appearance" =/= "men are evil for not finding specific people attractive!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 04:50 PM
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nah. their only understanding of feminism comes from the reddit frontpage which paints the ideology as a bunch of tumblr users that throw tantrums when they dont get their safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:56 PM
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how so? as far as i can tell feminism is about abolishing gender roles. assuming women are too innocent to do wrong is a gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 03:54 PM
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i think we just know enough conventionally unattractive people that either have partners or arent extremely bitter to know better ive also seen enough guys that arent even unattractive but see themselves as hideous and un-date-able. im very convinced that its all in their heads and they're stuck in cycles of not taking care of themselves mentally and physically, compounding the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:20 PM
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A common idea I see in college and many other places is that women feel that liberation comes from partying, getting drunk, smoking pot, and not giving a shit about what happens tomorrow. i feel like you drew this conclusion from watching Project X or something ahaha. nothing about drinking or drugs is particularly liberating. fun as hell? yes. rebellious? yes. what's liberating is being able to live how you want in spite of outdated stereotypes like "women that have sex are BAD" and "women that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 07:13 PM
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absolutely. statistically she just has more to overcome than the average man to get the same success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 03:34 PM
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i understand with the sentiment "people shouldnt complain too much" but why shouldnt they reproduce? its not like complaining is a trait thats passed on thru generations
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:20 PM
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i get that its easiest to just throw a blanket over a problem and pretend its not there, but being able to genuinely confront issues as they arise is important. whether that means solving your SO's problems or just listening to provide validation or insight but sometimes if theres a problem thats causing a lot of anxiety for your SO thats out of your control its worth it to get them out of their head and thinking about something else? idunno, context is everything
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:29 PM
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i admit whenever my boss is angry i'll just throw in an Always Sunny in Philadelphia reference and he'll move on what OP describes isnt an instance of "women are more emotional and less logical than men" but rather an instance of general human behavior that's reflected in all genders
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 06:23 PM
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why do you want to have control over your significant other??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 03:28 PM
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id probably insist on connecting thru facebook, no way im giving my number out ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:19 PM
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yep! its a general rule of interacting with others, not a dating strategy lol act how you want others to act to you. not to get laid, not to "trick" others into treating you well, be a good person because good people are good people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 05:43 PM
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depends on the person, most o' my friends (including myself) go in between short and long hair frequently, its not something i give much thought to in terms of preferring one style over the other
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 02:20 PM
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i feel like women in the military that are deserving of the front lines will prove themselves and end up there, just like the dudes. saying "the entire demographic of women is unfit for combat" is pretty short-sighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:42 PM
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As men are mostly ready for sex, women who have many different partners aren't doing anything special, just saying 'yes'. ...and is that really a legit reason to say derogatory things about women with many partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:31 PM
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but still almost 50 nonetheless! doesnt matter to me, people should marry who they want, its just that ive heard many a Red Piller say that women hit the wall at 25 lol either way, cant deny that Red Pill talks about women settling down with beta men for their money, which is the case here either way edit: hell, i've heard lots of Red Pill agreement that being President at all is beta. i dont quite understand, and i think the idea of beta/alpha is ridiculous, just what i've heard. i suspect they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 07:23 PM
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probably, in the sense that people with more misogynistic/traditional world views feel validated to see someone like trump win and more likely to be vocal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:28 PM
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i thought marrying post wall women that were obviously in it to mooch off your wallet was beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:26 PM
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I don't think it solves the problem. It won't prevent rapists from raping someone. no where in this article is the law described as an attempt to stop rape...? the only mention of rape is "The rape and murder of 16-year-old Lucia Perez in the city of Mar del Plata in October prompted widespread outrage" and even then its not cited as direct inspiration to the law the law is an attempt to change Argentina's "cultural tolerance of disparaging attitudes to women, including casual harassment" which …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 05:07 PM
1

Toxic Masculinity, as defined by Purple Pill debate: "it's a weasel word for any form of masculinity that doesn't kiss the ass of the media/academic feminist establishment" "Pretty much anything men do that isn't in service of women" "Any form of masculinity that doesn't bow down to the media/academic feminist establishment " "feminist approved anti-male propaganda designed to breed docile doormat betas" Toxic masculinity is best described as "socially-constructed attitudes that describe the mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:07 PM
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it depends on the person and her level of comfort with strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 06:50 PM
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If she's adult enough to get an abortion, she's adult enough to wear a condom yeh, thank goodness this unprepared/irresponsible person doesnt have a fucking kid to take care of now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 05:30 PM
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the usual shower urry day w/ conditioner + hair gel and comb, shave every other day, nail polish on weekends 'cause if its good enough for robert smith its good enough for me i really take pride in the clothes and what i wear, tho i dont put much effort into what i wear unless its a relatively social setting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 06:43 PM
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most, dunno if i could put a number on it. women who they genuinely believe are single moms due too bad decision making, desperation to lock an unwilling guy down or for monetary gain i have serious doubts that locking men into child support is a motivation, or if theres motivation or intention at all. single mothers are a consequence of poor sex education and not enough resources for family planning. isnt the rate of single mothers and unplanned pregnancy higher in bible-belt areas where they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:47 PM
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yeh, turns out racism and misogyny dont really have a place in the art world anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:17 PM
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i live in a very arts driven college town that is pretty feminist minded. no one quite like the exaggerated hypothetical feminist Reddit likes to believe in, but loud and outright people do exist nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:07 PM
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isnt it a weird coincidence that art and expressive schools are generally more progressive and liberal-minded?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:52 PM
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idunno, man. renting cars and having intercourse are pretty different things and involve completely different levels of responsibility and consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:21 PM
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have you heard women say that or are you just making an educated guess? its easy to be afraid of strange men when most men subscribe to ideas like "women shouldnt wear revealing clothes if they dont want to be harassed!" and "men can't help it, sexual aggression is in their nature!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 07:23 PM
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toxic masculinity is an attitude that associates masculinity with violence, sexual aggression, stoicism, etc non-toxic masculinity is just masculinity. deep voice, things like abs and big biceps, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 08:17 PM
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isnt it sort of useless to rationalize the fluid and complex nature of human interaction with economic terms? i understand that many red pillers see relationships as a transaction. lots of women think this way too. does this mentality account for the emotional responsibility to your partner and yourself that comes with relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:48 PM
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the only reason male circumcision still happens is because no one cares enough to make it illegal. no one, not even circumcised men, cares enough to do anything except for a fringe internet group that is mostly reacting to feminism anyway. put that in contrast to women's reproductive health. half the population is actively fighting against women's reproductive health. its not a case of not enough people caring to make change, as is circumcision, its a case of enough people opposing it that no pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:45 PM
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these ideals predate feminism. OP describes the traditional misogyny that has existed in most parts of the world since the bible was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 09:35 PM
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Why is it so hard to assume that it's just his idea of romance? Maybe even romantic delusions? idgaf what his idea of romance is. society scolds women for having sex while congratulating men. valuing women (or anyone!) according to their amount of sexual partners is so horrible. Court the girl, win her, do everything to make her happy, be prince charming incarnated and live happily ever after. idealizing relationships is bad and unrealistic and the reason why so many men are unhappy. that ideali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 07:42 PM
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David Byrne is the only dude worth looking up to as far as im concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 03:50 PM
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http://67.media.tumblr.com/717372b513cf85fa90fc6bf6cf3feb1e/tumblr_nvmf6i9M131utgw07o7_500.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 10:25 PM
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you must be fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 09:45 PM
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maybe he should try putting a quarter in
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 09:41 PM
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are you really trying to argue that the bible isnt full of ridiculous outdated misogyny? For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. 7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 07:59 PM
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Having a sick feeling every time a stranger yells vulgur words at you cause it's considered a normal part of culture is hardly mental illness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 03:31 PM
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id imagine lots of overlap in younger people, but the number of feminist minded people may get smaller as you explore older demographics. im personally much more interested in how the groups of people are grouped graphically. i'd imagine alt-right people are greater in numbers in lower income and less diverse midwest towns
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 04:41 PM
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It should be treated as a crime the same way prank calling 911 is a crime. Making it equal to actually raping someone is nonsense to me tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 01:30 AM
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seems sort of obvious that associating your worth with how masculine you seem will lead to problems, especially when society's definition of masculinity involves shit like stoicism and aggression you wonder why men are likely to be depressed and attempt suicide? here's your answer, clear as crystal and peer reviewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:04 AM
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yeh same, but i figured someone on this thread might like them and not realize bars with those things exist and maybe it'd help them out edit: whenever i've been single i've had great luck meeting people and making friends in the music scene, especially DIY basement shows. most genuine group of people ive ever met. i dont even wanna know where i'd be right now socially if i never started a band lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:56 AM
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find a bar where they have board games and video games n shit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 08:58 PM
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it may be in your best interest to not use OK Cupid statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 08:19 PM
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absolutely. men hold the vast majority of power in the west and the rest of the world. most of the world still sees women as the submissive sex. our laws regarding women's health are still determined by old white dudes. the male gender is considered the "norm" in most places of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:05 PM
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its just funny that Red Pill accuses feminism of being about not taking responsibility for yourself, while the Red Pill is full of hypocrisies that let men avoid responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:33 PM
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upvoted because you proved OPs points :P does "society believes it too" legitimize the claims in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:27 PM
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can i restate your argument? "femininity isnt taken as seriously as masculinity, so women should embrace masculinity" You want to feel pretty by layering your face with makeup but at the same there are none of these options for men. As a man you are forced to improve or get left behind. There is no safetynet. i think thats a good thing for men. our worth doesnt boil down to our attractiveness in most everyday situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:55 PM
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ive heard many a MRA and KiA subscriber say things like "video games are male spaces being taken over by women" what percentage of male gamers are dudes with this mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 02:19 PM
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i think thats code for "i have too much social anxiety to have any sort of relationship ever" that or "im only interested in relationships with emotionally damaged women who will be dependent on me"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:30 PM
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its crazy that he fooled the poorest demographics into not having accessible and free healthcare for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:49 PM
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Don't like sluts? You're a misogynist. yep, because associating women's worth with their sexual history is prejudice and awful for so many reasons. also a double whammy because the people that use the word "slut" likely dont share the same disdain for men that are promiscuous. that's sexism. that's misogynistic. Don't like fatties? You're a misogynist. whats misogynistic about it is that women are scrutinized much more for their appearance than men. it supports the age-old idea that women are he…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 04:02 PM
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Happily getting chocked on a dick for a Pepsi isn't exactly a great quality for being a wife. no misogyny there!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:52 PM
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also god forbid a woman thats not hot try to make it in the music industry
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 02:26 PM
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no one cares except for the people that are the victims of the hateful rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:00 PM
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violence is for people too stupid and emotional to think their way through to actually solve situations in constructive ways edit: its also for people too stupid to just step away from a situation lol, that's like trumps entire life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:02 PM
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twitter insults every time someone calls your hands small isnt exactly mature tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:00 PM
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patriarchy, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:49 PM
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looking back that first sentence of mine might be the most pretentious thing ive ever written lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:42 PM
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Indie rock refers to 90s hard alternative rock your definition of indie rock seems to more fit grunge/punk, i consider indie rock to be more independent record label bands as it exists in the mid 2000s-present, like Arcade Fire, Father John Misty, St. Vincent, etc now that i got that out of my system, i agree that the band in questioned sounds like they were mismanaged to hell. maybe they were victims of a terrible record deal, maybe they hired dumb accountants (or no accountant at all), who kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:46 PM
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i feel like "alphas" should be able to be insulted and not let it completely destroy their ego he doesnt have any sense of frame lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 06:46 PM
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i think its entirely contextual and reliant on how well the child would handle the information, how important it is to them or the parents, etc. most cases would probably end up with the child knowing id imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 03:53 PM
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any red pillers specifically voting for trump because he's "alpha?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 02:38 PM
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Red Pill just seems to urge a mentality of "its not my fault! that's just what guys do sometimes!" start flirting to other women? "well, ya know guys cant really help themselves sometime! its in their nature!" lose your temper at your wife/gf? "she shouldve known better than to nag! its just in male nature to have a short temper!" take advantage of a passed out woman at a party? "well shit its her own fault for drinking too much around men!" Red Pillers allow themselves to act as they please wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:16 PM
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i also feel like RP is all about removing the responsibility of making sure your partner consents also, in a relationship i feel like there's an amount of responsibility to your partner's well being, a responsibility Red Pill tries to get rid of
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 07:38 PM
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Women have no business trying to tell men how to be men its just that a lot of dudes' understanding of "being a man" is pretty harmful to women and themselves. your attitude in your next paragraph confirms this: Are women gonna clean their own sewers? Lol, no. Are women gonna fight invading hordes of muslim extremists? Lol, no. That is exactly why women react so negatively to things like MGTOW. this idea of "the weight of society is on men's shoulders" is so self-righteous, masturbatory, and bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 07:36 PM
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according to TRP men love women for "who they are" until they "hit the wall" and start aging like every human ever lol no shallow-ness there no siree!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 05:05 PM
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i feel like red pillers idealize men more than any other gender or demographic. that idea of a Chad who's soooo haaaawt that he can do anything he wants is such a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 01:24 PM
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lol so every women yelling "get away from me creep" at the frat boy on the street is secretly wanting him to keep trying? They say "respect a woman's boundaries," which is an effortless AND meaningless phrase (what does "respect" mean, specifically, in this context? what are her "boundaries," specifically, on this context? uhm, in this context "boundaries" refer to how much a woman is comfortable with interacting with strangers and "respect" means how much those strangers care about those bounda…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:55 PM
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Or any time where a woman might somehow be slightly inconvenienced by you talking to them no ones telling dudes to put blinders on and not speak to women, people just want men to respect other people's boundaries and not flip shit if they run into a woman that has no interest in talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:11 PM
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i think OP heard "dont catcall women on the street" and interpreted it as "only speak when spoken to"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:57 PM
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truth. what people fall back on as insults is usually pretty telling about their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:37 PM
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your only standard is that she has to be a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:01 PM
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im not so sure that "sluts" exist. i think its just a word used by people who either demonize sexuality or are angry at promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:47 PM
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some guys seem to deem women "sluts" if they know she'll never sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:45 PM
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the idea that men deserve less custody comes from the archetype that women are caretakers and stay-at-home. as long as we choose to keep that alive i dont predict custody statistics changing much. in my utterly uninformed and casual opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:08 PM
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I've tried everything from shaming, to guilt tripping, to buying her dresses 2 sizes too small I make sure she wears a nighty or some other article of clothing that I can leave around her midriff to conceal (inasmuch as that's possible) the burgeoning amounts of lard stored there. thats all like throwing gasoline on a fire to put it out. only with some sociopathic emotional abuse thrown in. edit: seriously, you make it sound like you're knowingly torturing your wife. how can you do that to the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:33 PM
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i feel like the majority of gay men, especially in the US, are married with children and in the closet i suspect that its more acceptable in society for women to be bisexual and lesbian so its more reported
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:30 PM
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how is it contradictory? men dont need safe spaces. its very easy for men to speak their minds without worrying about women derailing the conversation. nothing in my post contradicted itself and i think its a very sound argument. just because you disagree with something doesnt mean its nonsensical. make an argument otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 03:59 PM
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have you ever shaved your legs, armpit, and arms? its a ton of work. lots more work than just shaving your face every other day. only difference is that dudes can generally abstain from shaving and people wont be disgusted. easier for dudes, y'know?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:32 PM
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men dont really need spaces, tho. men can generally speak their mind without much repercussion. the only reason i've heard of men wanting male-only spaces is as a reaction to female-only spaces. that, and men getting pissed about women playing video games. that shit makes me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:25 PM
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how so? i feel like she's more calling invasive derailing behavior from men "problematic," not male behavior in general
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:22 PM
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i wish ppl were that accepting of women that dont shave. everyone has body hair, for some reason its the dudes that got it easy and dont need to shave
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:11 PM
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There's no question that that's gay, and unnatural, and should rightly be criticized. hwat
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:02 PM
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how do you figure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:31 PM
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interested if part of it is due to women simply living longer than men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:42 PM
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given how preoccupied red pill dudes are with masculinity, lifting, talking about chad thundercock (idealized masculinity), and talking about how great dudes are, to me its worth exploring the idea of subconscious/suppressed homosexuality/bisexuality. sorta like how Mac from its Always Sunny in Philadelphia tries to be as manly as possible to cover up his suppressed homosexuality. its not an insult. its just something worth thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 03:35 PM
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i said it has nothing to do with trying to get laid or find a relationship. its exclusively part of her performance. projecting that as being part of her orientation seems like a reach to me. it seems obvious that this is part of her performance and not sexual gratification. she's all about pushing boundaries between performer and audience. Secondly, if a performance has 0% to do with someone's personal sexuality, that implies any woman, regardless of her view sex, would have no difficulties als…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:52 PM
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its part of her performance, 0% to do with getting laid or relationships. absolutely not. absolutely. having control of your body and sexuality is about as feminist as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 07:10 PM
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-i will never have my status at a job questioned due to my gender -my abilities will never be in question due to my gender -i can wear mostly whatever i want without calling attention to myself or creating controversy -how i dress generally does not affect how people view my performance -i'm less likely to be interrupted when i speak -im not automatically assumed to not know what im talking about -im subject to less scrutiny for the way i speak -im not expected to swear less and apologize more -…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:58 PM
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i think that's 100000% more logical than ignoring it. next-ing the person is more logical than "ill ignore that!! everythings fine!!! my SO is part of a violent misogyny group but this is fine!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:36 PM
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weird how simply not wanting people to be sexist and abusive = disney happy ideal utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:17 PM
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no, it just proves that women want to be able to wear yoga pants without people having intense reactions. i mean seriously, what kind of person are you that you get mad at people for wearing yoga pants? no, it supports the idea that women want to wear what they want without being considered controversial. not at all. i can wear pretty much whatever i want and no one bats an eye. itd suck to wear something out of comfort and have people literally argue to me about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 08:31 PM
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lol, its very telling how women just want to be able to wear what they want and have control over their sex lives and red pillers see it as "doing and having everything they want all the time"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 04:56 PM
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http://67.media.tumblr.com/bdbf8bc33ca20dd7673404953ce40fef/tumblr_mywdag6XEV1rskk8io1_500.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 02:50 PM
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Women would definitely fill the roles. Women already work dirty jobs and physically intensive jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 06:52 PM
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forcing an entire demographic to be dependent is horrible, though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 02:51 PM
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The rape discussion puts the onus on men and therefore proscribes actions and behaviors men should adopt. You think this is prudent, justified, and productive. In short, this is wholly endorsed by types like you. making sure your partner consents to sex is such a drag isnt it??? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 02:30 PM
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as much money as she can; housework split evenly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:54 PM
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there's nothing wrong with gender fluidity or equal rights. you just dont understand it so it seems scary to you, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 05:52 PM
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"she doesnt mean it, she's just playing hard to get!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 08:45 PM
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probably not a good bet for LTR. some people change a whole lot over the years. some dont. physical abuse is really something to steer clear of. simply having had a lot of partners isnt indicative of cheating in the future. the only thing that's indicative is whether or not they cheated while in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 01:30 PM
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idunno if its an example of rape culture but it sure as hell is an example of denial
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 01:17 PM
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A place to start is XY chromosomes, male genitalia, etc. but that answer stops working in cases of gender dysphoria and androgyny. personally, "manliness" and "being a man" is a social and cultural construct and up to everyone's own interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:38 PM
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i think he's literally Mac from Its Always Sunny
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 04:35 PM
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elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:18 PM
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do you have any links? knowing that study exists, do you think that women should be banned in general or held to the same standards? personally i believe the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:15 PM
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ahhhh dont even get me started about catholic school upbringing! once at my school they had a dude come in and give the abstinence talk, he made the point by have a piece of tape and putting it on his arm. every time he would remove the tape and reapply to his arm the tape would get less and less sticky and useful, his point being that promiscuity is damaging and makes you "used up." pretty fucked up imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:59 PM
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i mean, most porn ends after the dude finishes. especially in areas with shitty sex ed, i feel like guys tend to think sex is done once they orgasm regardless if the woman did. guys also seem to think jackhammer sex is hot to women lol not all guys, obviously...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 02:38 AM
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also most guys learn how to have sex from porn, which is rarely realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 07:46 PM
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But the recent tape and his past show he really isn't a conservative man. how so? i dont think graphic descriptions of grabbing women contradicts conservatism, in fact i think it is in line with the conservative/traditional idea that women are submissive and dependent on men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 06:13 PM
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idk how statistics would support this but the fact that people are defending trump's language of sexual assault as "locker room banter" says to me that we are still living in a culture that isn't ready to take victims seriously. didnt brock turner just happen? people are still concerned about the "futures" of sexually violent men and trying to rationalize it in ways that places the responsibility on women to not get drunk. lots of dudes on here even believe that men cant control themselves aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:57 PM
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do you think those who support Trump are 1. In favour of red-pill style alpha males being in charge and/or 2. Prefer to be led by a red-pill style alpha male? yes to both. trump presents himself in a way that makes him out to be a leader and a man's man which is very much in line with conservativism and tradition. people are easily convinced by confidence. people dont support him for his policies because he has none. people dont support trump for his plans because all of his plans are obviously …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 04:38 PM
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some of these comments are cray, y'all are cray. go take a break from the internet and go to a farmer's market or something
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:40 PM
2

good ol' dose of reddit racism to start the say!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:39 PM
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do you actually believe women have a priority of enslaving men and taxing single dudes??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:38 PM
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i dont think its necessarily enough to say he's assaulted people, but he obviously believes the whole "women want to be dominated by a rich dude" thing which isnt an appropriate viewpoint for a presidential candidate to have. he deserves the backlash 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:20 PM
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Personally I'd rather my future wife not to take my name. Feels outdated to do and I like the individuality of not exchanging names. If we were to have kids i am sure we'd have joint last names separated by a dash or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:52 PM
3

i love Willy Wonka
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:53 PM
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appreciating the fact that everyone is different and will react to things differently even in the same context is important too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 05:38 PM
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maybe you should practice focusing, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:57 PM
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and people wonder why women are afraid to walk home alone at night lol entitled dudes that cant control their emotions and delusions are deadly risks to the rest of functioning society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:21 PM
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im questioning the validity of this story because its so unusual, not because i distrust men in general, or whatever you're getting at complaining about "handsome" and accusing someone of sexual assault are pretty different things in my book
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:03 PM
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are you really that susceptible to some skin?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:59 PM
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if the story really is that simple, the student who filed the complaint might need some help. its easy to take extreme cases like this and say "explain this, feminists!!" but hearing this story does not change my mind of the necessity of safe spaces and holding people accountable to their racism and sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:55 PM
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just because some women have successful social media presences doesnt mean all women like to be sexualized by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 05:50 PM
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being objectified isnt something that the vast majority of men encounter on a daily basis tho being objectified is, however, something many many women encounter on a daily basis simply put, objectification at all is a bad thing, but objectifying women carries much farther reaching and ingrained consequences than objectifying men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:28 PM
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i definitely care. he's a great example of how our society doesnt hold powerful white men responsible as much as we should. i dont care so much about monica lewinsky for the same reasons as the other responses. hillary supposedly helped cover up his sexual assault allegations or something like that. this combined with her anti-gay stance of the 90s makes me feel sick to vote for her but its still an easy decision in hillary vs trump
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:18 PM
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the only reason people are giving him leniency about these comments is that most men say this shit in the locker room, in groups of only men, etc. its a nice example that our society is still mostly alright with men acting entitled and objectifying towards women. trump is just stupid enough to have said it around a hot mic. i am very into the idea of having a president that isnt entitled and objectifying towards women, so for the sake of moving our society away from such stereotypes, hearing thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 03:09 PM
2

i think ghandi actually was :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:43 PM
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makes sense to me, the people with progressive/radical ideas about gender also probably progressive/radical ideas about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:14 PM
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what about when "incels" say that its unfair that women dont have sex with them? or when "nice guys" are angry that women only see them as friends? how are these frequently occurring situations not examples of entitlement in men? First off, following that logic nobody is really entitled to anything. You are not entitled to a relationship. You are not entitled to friendship. exactly. there are a LOT of dudes that dont believe this and resent women that dont give them attention. ot coincidentally,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 05:42 PM
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good echo chamber thread to start the morn'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 01:15 PM
1

same. personal anecdotes dont mean much to me except confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:32 PM
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it seems like marriage has become an outdated tradition
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 09:41 PM
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are you quoting me orrr
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:10 PM
1

really? you never heard anyone advise basic self care and independence?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 01:58 PM
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The moment it is labeled sexist, it becomes necessarily immoral. what else do you call it when someone is prejudice towards a gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 08:13 PM
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work out, be fashionable, be the best and most kind and genuine version of yourself that you can. learn to stop thinking "my happiness is reliant on other people/having a girlfriend/getting laid." make an effort to go out of your comfort zone at all opportunity (easier said than done!). make an effort to make the world a better place for the people around you. pretty much Red Pill but without all the festering resentment, negativity towards women, sexism, and passive aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 03:33 PM
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ITT: emotional abuse is aight because everyone does it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 04:45 AM
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no one here is saying women are incapable of abuse. Why is this only being brought up as if women never do this? who has said that? the topic at hand is that red pill directly advocates emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 04:43 AM
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also if she calls him out on being emotionally distant or asking why hes talking to other women they just brush it off as "hamstering" or shit tests lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 12:52 AM
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your premise is just extremely objectifying towards women is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 12:44 AM
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do you really think framing an Incels personal issues as some sort of women's equality issue would actually in their minds fix the problem? i mean, trying to fix them by making their misogyny worse isnt really fixing the problem, is it? If a woman is treated in some way she doesn't like, that's her problem. Just the same way people say a man being rejected for sex is his problem. there is totally a huge difference between a woman being objectified and a dude being sexually frustrated and bitter …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 03:37 PM
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nope!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 01:30 PM
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An incel has had so many negative, hurtful rejections from women, with no source of positive outcome or success. Overtime, this changes how your brain perceives women. Your brain or mind will lock in interacting with women as a hurtful, painful experience. thats because they likely enter every interaction with a women hoping it to be some idealized interaction and when its not they feel rejected im starting to think incels, or most of them, have personality avoidance disorder. at leas the more v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 01:29 PM
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i always assumed that women endure time better because their bodies were built to endure pregnancy and giving birth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 02:10 PM
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what truths of MGTOW are so convincing to you that you felt the need to post in a pretty obviously anti-MGTOW space?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 01:43 PM
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women have no responsibility to protect the feelings of sexually frustrated angsty men women have no responsibility to protect the feelings of sexually frustrated angsty men women have no responsibility to protect the feelings of sexually frustrated angsty men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:11 PM
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dat self-victimization tho
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:45 PM
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im very glad that honor is a mostly extinct concept in western culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:53 PM
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so women have a little more estrogen and different junk in the trunk that's reason to hold them to wildly different social standards than men. Got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 02:29 PM
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men have very little to cheer for in terms of equal representation. maybe we can be happy that women are finally on track to being represented somewhat fairly? why does everything have to be us v them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 02:31 PM
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just because you acknowledge that certain words are shitty doesnt mean you collapse every time you hear them there's nothing wrong with trying to phase slurs out of our everyday language
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 02:22 PM
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nah, people have just realized that physical abuse is a terrible and evil thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:34 PM
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i feel like its RP inspired. they're the ones who seem the most unclear about what consent means/is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 05:54 PM
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This is why I always LOL at RPers who are like ''omg that girl wants validation! What a terrible attention-seeking, whore". this is a great point!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 01:18 PM
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well everyone knows the old adage when it comes to relationships: "the more you act like passive aggressive teenagers, the better!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:27 PM
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ZING feminism isnt victim oriented. i think that's just what ppl tell themselves because they disagree with feminism. its just funny that a dude is asking for a version of a women's rights movement that fits his worldview more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:07 PM
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its threads like this that keep me coming here!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 03:02 PM
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is there a more condensed version of feminism that is not victim-oriented and rather leverages human rights as a legitimate cause for movement? "is there a version of feminism that doesnt make me feel bad for being misogynistic"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:56 PM
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Didn't you know they want to have fun, take 0 responsibility and never suffer any consequences for poor decision-making? isnt that sorta Red Pills end game tho? if we put the responsibility on women to not be raped then men can just say "hur dur it was her fault cause she wasnt careful enough" or "she wasnt really raped, she was clearly just showing LMR" or "she clearly wanted to have sex but just regretted it" red pillers want to have sex without the responsibility of consent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:35 PM
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maybe because everyone is awkward/weird at some point in their life and men just have a name for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:38 PM
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its very possible and normal for someone to have the capacity to be emotional and logical. just because you express emotion in a healthy way doesnt mean you are unable to be logical in a business setting. our society raises men to suppress their emotions and fails to teach them how to deal with their emotions and then wonders why men have higher suicide rates Too much suppression is harmful, which means men still need some release, which they get through drinking, music, sports, sex, talking, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:17 PM
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men might be judged by their SOs if they're too emotionally vulnerable thats what we like to call "harmful gender roles"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 05:50 PM
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nah, as far as i know they dont dox or harass people so who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:30 PM
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dont be afraid of femininity, dont force yourself to be stoic, dont build your self-confidence by putting others down, whether vocally or to yourself. masculinity is associated with so many bad things you gotta whittle them away. Chris Pratt seems like a good example i guess? secure enough with himself to make fun of himself in his acting, generally happy person edit: dont downvote just cause you disagree or are offended! convince me that masculinity isnt full of bad stuff!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:52 PM
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i think we should deal with them by way of working to erase the idea that your sex life and appeal defines your value because those are very harmful ideas prevalent in our society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:21 PM
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What economic class did you grow up as? upper middle class Things are more competitive, but there's still high demand for skilled people so, I don't really see how it's much harder. i think the competition has well outgrown the demand. these days students are lucky enough to land an unpaid internship with all the competition. Not to mention blue labor work exists still and all of those career tracks pay well especially after 10 years of experience. It's not hard for men to make enough money to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:51 PM
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so should we let women take the majority of jobs to give them a turn? seems fair to me. seriously tho, women have always been in the workforce. thats sorta basic history. they were the backbone of factory workers all thru the industrial boom. its just that they arent discriminated against these days (as much) when it comes to better jobs. Pointing that out isn't misogynistic. That's economics 101. its misogynistic if you're blaming it on feminism. blame it on the men that discriminated against w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:44 PM
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Erin Pizzey, founder of the charity Refuge, added: 'The hard-won freedom of choice has imprisoned women. I just see an exhausted generation trying to do it all.' i know everyone and their dog likes to blame everything on feminism without thinking about it, but this idea is so widespread to everyone, to me it's more to do with the disappearing middle class, the fact that college grads are much less likely to get good jobs, that people have to work much harder to support themselves, that most fiel…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 04:12 PM
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its threads like this that make it very hard for me to take this sub seriously. y'all are crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 08:45 PM
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ahahah sorry idunno just seems that people that listen to country music use the phrases "real man" and "real woman" the most. i just imagine people saying that with country hats on. i guess thats just me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 05:23 PM
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AMAZING
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 04:34 PM
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autism is a very wide spectrum. it ranges from people that have it and probably dont realize because its so mild to people that are unable to speak or interact. so in that sense i very much disagree that simply having autism at all makes you "rejected and ignored." the more unable you are able to interact with people and comprehend social cues, the less likely you are to be in a relationship. its not as black and white as "hot women dont date autistic men"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 04:25 PM
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"here's how sex works, oh by the way some of you are probably going to grow up to be misogynists and blame your problems on women. you'll post lots about it on reddit and call yourselves incels"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 02:50 PM
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i feel like thats just what women say after they break up i feel like its also mostly said by women that listen to country music
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 02:47 PM
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sex is generally something that two people experience because they both want to have enjoyment oh, the things you need to explain to people on this subreddit...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 02:46 PM
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Why is it that I have no problem sleeping with 18 year girls OR 40 year old women? the points she made in that quote are equally as speculative as yours. this is slut shaming at it's finest (I.E. only stupid, insecure women would "fall for their bullshit" (flirt back with and sleep with, you mean?). i dont think its slut shaming to say "certain people are more susceptible to manipulation" as she's saying. slut shaming is more along the lines of "women that have a lot of sex are bad" which isnt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 02:39 PM
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ya, cause red pill is so scientifically sound!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 12:41 PM
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nah, i actually didnt really let on to my feminist mindset i have these days. our friendship is more important than our disagreements. he'd bring up whether i think men or women are less advantaged and i'd just sorta shrug. it was more just that he made my college friends feel super uncomfortable and i felt responsible for that because i introduced him to everyone. just awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:42 PM
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i completely disagree that its realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:40 PM
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because they're misogynists and their joining of Red Pill/Incel communities confirms that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:40 PM
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couldnt care less as long as she was/is safe mentally/physically and is on the same page as me in our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:37 PM
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No one knows, i think its pretty obvious: people are insecure. men are insecure of women having sex lives beyond them and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 07:33 PM
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one of my best childhood friends turned RP/MGTOW just as i started going in the opposite direction, brought him to a party with people that were like-minded to me, bad idea. i feel like we left on a bad note and probably wont talk to him again. very sad. honestly feel bad for him and y'all, its such a terribly negative view of the world and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:46 PM
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because you say that and then in the same breath say that promiscuity in men is alright! its hypocritical and ridiculous!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:31 PM
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women are put under more pressure to look good. dudes can roll out of bed, throw on clothes without much consideration, and no one will bat an eye if a woman puts in that same minimal effort, people will judge her. if she doesnt wear makeup, or wears too much, people will judge her. if her clothing is too revealing or not revealing enough, it will literally have an impact on the people she interacts with. etc etc. of course men need to put in an effort to actually look good, but they arent under…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:50 PM
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red pill posts are so passive aggressive, subtle negging happening?? "I-I'm reasonable!! i must respond!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 02:23 PM
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so i should hold women to more strict and inane standards than men because of some meme i saw on reddit. got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 04:59 PM
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so its bad for women to be promiscuous but alright for men. got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 04:34 PM
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what about dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:30 PM
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men try to hold a meeting to talk about their own problems the problem is men's rights groups are usually simply reactionary to feminism, like reddit's MRA subreddit and red pill subreddit. not only that but they are usually exclusionary to issues facing LGBTQ men, men of color, and men that also support feminism. just because feminism rags on shitty men doesnt mean its anti-men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:43 AM
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good ol fashioned reddit echo chamber by the looks of it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:36 AM
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literally deadly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 02:34 AM
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you do know that men have sex outside of marriage too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 05:13 PM
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yeah women have control over their bodies and people generally have sex lives before they marry isnt that just fucked up?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! these comics demonize women's sexuality (and sexuality in general), are generally racist, not based in any sort of reality, and perpetuate delusional Red Pill hate of women they're just expressions of "i want to control my SO and i cant deal with the fact that my dick wasnt the most important thing to her for her entire life and that makes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 05:12 PM
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his username checks out!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:32 PM
1

its a reocurring red pill sentiment. do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:58 PM
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do you honestly ever hear about/encounter those kinds of people outside of reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:56 PM
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i like to think men are generally more complex than just being sex fanatics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 08:53 PM
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All women want to be pampered, taken care of, and ravished by a high value man/men i think most women, like men, just want to be happy and content and make ends meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 03:47 PM
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Do you get mad at men for chasing pussy? It's what they do. this has been your hourly reminder that Red Pill believes men have no control over themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 08:16 PM
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yeh, agreed. i guess my point is that no one should be bitter/blaming when they go out on a limb and dont get their intended result.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:36 PM
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All of the modern campaigns demonize men. Take the most sane one I can think of. "Not asking for it". nah. i cant even count all the times (on this subreddit and in real life) men and women alike pull the "women shouldnt go out looking like that if they dont want negative attention" bullshit. that demonizes men more than anything feminism does. saying women are "asking for it" says that men are at the mercy of women showing some skin and cant control their urges. some ppl in this subreddit hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:27 PM
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lol if i were a woman and thirsty dudes were throwing free drinks at me i'd definitely take them up on it, that'd be sick when you put money into a gamble its 100% your own responsibility, you dont get mad at the gamble when you knew full well it was your own decision to do it in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:42 PM
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are you dennis reynolds?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 03:47 PM
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If the woman dressed appropiately, their wouldn't be any problem. Don't victim blame. so you cant control yourself based on what other's are wearing? that sound like a "you" problem rather than a society problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 02:40 PM
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have any evidence or direct links to posts that support any of these notions at all? seems to me that you're just thinking out loud to us without anything to back it up. im not worried about any sort of strategy being exposed and i dont believe that it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:44 PM
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remember that thread earlier about how men are supposedly obsessed with sex to the point of being distracted by it in their day to day life, and being depressed if they "dont have enough?" its dudes that believe bullshit like that that make me scared for women walking home alone at night
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:33 PM
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ive met lots of dudes that expect admiration. its called big egos. some men do it. some women do it. some men dont. some women dont. you're just allowing your misogyny to associate it to femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:31 PM
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its outrage porn. we go there because TRP makes us so pissed off that its entertaining. like TiA but on the other side of the spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 08:53 PM
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they're human, men are human. they're equal. something tells me we arent going to reach a mutual conclusion in this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:52 PM
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equating women to children is prejudice. thinking women should have less/different opportunities due to their gender is prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:50 PM
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Why is thinking that women are inherently lesser than men misogynistic? because they arent, and the only reason to believe so is because of prejudice or believing in untrue stereotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:15 PM
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nah it just means you're prejudice against women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:01 PM
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anyone that perpetuates traditional gender roles for women say, Phyllis Schlafly. Lawyer and conservative activist. who has been documented saying such things as "I have cancelled speeches whenever my husband thought that I had been away from home too much." and "By getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:59 PM
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all gender roles are patriarchal; that is to say Patriarchal Gender Roles support the idea of men being independent/adult/complex/aggressive while women are dependent/childish/simple/emotional our gender roles were born out of many, many years of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 06:45 PM
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i think its more about validating their own hate of women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:40 PM
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i have yet to see someone reference "privilege" in this thread in a way that its actually intended. what do social skills have to do with privilege? or working hard at a passion? lol, as i type that sentence i realize everyone here thinks privilege = not having to work hard
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:35 PM
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thats why you open up handy-dandy Chrome internet browser and do some research. facts are facts, and facts say that a man and women can apply for the same job with identical resumes and the man will statistically receive a higher rating on his resume. facts say that countless employees report gender discrimination. all gender studies majors do is study the facts and draw reasonable conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 08:49 PM
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nah dude, you said they make up studies. that's a pretty crazy statement. you should get CNN in on this! that would be huge, HUGE news.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 08:44 PM
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oh, come on. at least make an effort to make an argument other than "they're wrong because they're wrong!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 08:29 PM
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you dont need to be in a STEM field to be able to complain about the gender discrimination that exists...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 08:25 PM
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Then maybe they should produce less gender studies majors and more STEM majors for women? i didnt realize STEM majors were gendered
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 07:10 PM
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TIL there are jobs that dont pay as well as stem jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 07:06 PM
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the only thing that will put more women in STEM fields is to work on erasing gender discrimination. its funny to me when people say "if Women's Studies majors want more women in STEM, why didnt they get a STEM job??" that's not the point! they are able to say that because studying gender disparities is literally their job. it makes sense to be mad about it in that context. they have the most authority to talk about it. STEM employees wont know about gender disparities because its not in their jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 03:53 PM
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im not convinced women have "next opportunity" the way RP preaches. if we made a thread "if you broke up with your SO, how long until you are in another relationship? do you think they would be more/less attractive than your current SO?" i think most of the answers would be similar regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 11:16 PM
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maybe you hear it all the time because its true
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 11:13 PM
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I'm willing to bet that most of the pillsphere (and 20 somethings in general) has a pretty decent grasp on gender disparities, and they were able do to it without going to school for it. i dont deny that they are convinced they have a grasp on gender disparity. It's more productive to "be the change you want to see," and actually get a STEM degree as opposed to getting a non-STEM degree and then complain about how the lack of women in STEM. agreed, its sorta like getting a degree in psychology a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 03:47 PM
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if you're worrying yourself about being rich and attractive you're gonna have a bad time looks arent important to me, and people that find looks important arent important to me, so money lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 01:09 PM
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makes sense to me. if you're studying gender disparities, chances are you're a lot more aware of gender disparities in work places. whereas someone that studies engineering wont know much about gender disparities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 01:07 PM
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my only problem with that is that his ideas of "it's women's fault i cant get a girlfriend," "feminism has ruined society," and all of his other hateful ideologies are very much aligned with red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 01:05 PM
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compare /r/feminism to /r/mensrights and then say that again ahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/16 02:11 PM
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honestly RP dudes are the most condescending people to women i've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 05:58 PM
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sorry but that seems very nonsensical to me. it two people have an issue they talk about it and fix it. then everyone's happy. the problem is over. if its not a resolvable issue they break up. then everyone's happy. how doesnt that work? maybe you are afraid of opening up to people? maybe you're afraid that communication will expose more underlying problems to confront? your mindset of "men no talk! men TAKE ACTION!! reasoning for wimps!" is only really good if you want to further compound probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 08:50 PM
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it's a mistake to think that sort of abuse is specific to gender. if the genders were switched y'all RP and RPW would probably be talking about how its her fault for messing up. red pillers, do any of you consider this psychological abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 08:44 PM
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It's too much feminization that's a pretty shitty reason to not want to communicate with your partner. why do men always favor jumping the gun and impulsiveness over taking time to talk and compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 04:34 PM
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lol i think most blue pillers read the Red Pill subreddit more than most red pills. RP is the one with the narrow lens, especially when viewing feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/16 01:30 PM
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definitely possible and it does happen. a couple happy without sex definitely has more going for them than a couple who's only happiness is in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 04:49 PM
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do you actually believe that or is it hyperbole?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 03:57 PM
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https://youtu.be/UTULoJlD_V4?t=90
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 02:10 PM
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sometimes. sometimes its a mix of reasoning. sometimes i wear a hat because it looks cool, sometimes its for comfort, sometimes its out of habit. depends on the day and the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:29 PM
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you dont find it concerning that he has to control your relationships so he feels comfortable? you dont find it concerning that he literally doesnt trust you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 02:19 PM
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just wait for the feminist spermjacking apocalypse edit: spermjapocalypse
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 02:17 PM
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good lord yes i dont think feminism will ever "win." we will continue to make great strides in gender discrimination and prejudice but i think patriarchy is too ingrained for feminism to ever not be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 08:53 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer the case of David Reimer seems to promote the idea that everyone has a permanent mental gender regardless of what your body reflects. But then again, I don't really think I "feel female" (except for when I'm having my period and even then, it's more of a oh here we go again). Most of the time, I don't think about my genitalia so I don't really understand the whole focus of it. exactly. your body reflects your mind so you dont even think about your gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:22 PM
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im pretty sure working to erase transphobia and promote acceptance is the most effective way of lessening the suicide rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:11 PM
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false. gender dysphoria is the illness, transitioning is the treatment. and this is the direction of the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 06:09 PM
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that's pretty different from what rape victims are actually saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 05:32 PM
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victims being afraid of reporting, for fear of ridicule or not being believed, or whatever other reason, is a symptom of rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 03:55 PM
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When people talk about the 'patriarchy' or 'rape culture', they are singling out men as evil, violent rapists who are out to subvert all women. There is nothing about equality there. i think its more like "our culture is more accommodating towards sexism and rape than it should be" rather than "all men are monsters"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 03:14 PM
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i've definitely seen some men say they're feminists and completely miss what its about and were probably trying to get in some pants. ive seen some antifeminist women but never got the vibe they were trying to impress anybody. im sure thats a thing tho, if you're trying to impress reddit-minded or fratty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 01:32 PM
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how can rejecting gender roles be harmful? any gender roles in particular? imo rejecting them leads to a much more genuine and satisfying lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 05:22 PM
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they arent forced as much as people are raised and conditioned into them. like how men are typically raised to suppress emotion. no one's forcing us but that's just how we're raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 05:21 PM
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the idea of men not being owed sex for being nice is an extremely prevalent feminist idea. seems to me like TRP is a little more broad in the sense of "the world doesnt owe you anything" still, i've seen lots of TRPs argue along the lines of "if you go out for a dinner and pay for everything she should at least give you a blowjob" which is pretty shitty to say and argues the opposite of what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 09:36 PM
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i think its a pretty far leap to take that article and proclaim "all women are money hungry hypergamous sloots" Why would they if women don't care about prestige/status/money? just because some women choose this lifestyle doesnt mean it represents all women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 08:14 PM
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wild generalizations dont hold much water. are you speaking from personal experience or reading reddit posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 03:52 PM
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You are not entitled to affection. You are not entitled to emotional support. true, but while i may not be entitled to emotional support/affection from my girlfriend, i sure as hell need it as does almost every other human being hoping to have a fulfilling relationship. No it's not. You are perfectly entitled to stop engaging in WHATEVER activity you no longer wish to engage in, for whatever reason. withdrawing for the sake of making your partner jealous is pretty low, though. Dread Game, or wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 03:41 PM
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preferences change. i think its pretty reasonable to assume that people act differently in their casual flings than LTRs. i cant blame the dude for feeling weird about it tho, the situation definitely calls for a serious open discussion between the two. if there are any unreconcilable problems they should split. jumping the gun and yelling "beta bucks beta bucks!" is a little unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 03:13 PM
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Lets hear it Blue Pillers, how do you explain this using your feminist thinking paradigm? it would appear as though she doesnt want to have anal sex with her new boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 01:33 PM
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super important. if someone in a relationship has a history of cheating i can see that there would be a case for going thru texts n stuff, but even then idk. its important to note, tho, that being paranoid with no basis is very unhealthy. be with someone you know you can trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 07:53 PM
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Nice Guys do not hit on women directly like that sure they do. maybe you wouldnt, but they do. at least the ones ive seen. usually they seem to do it from a safe distance, over facebook or text, or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:40 PM
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OP nailed it. could include how generalizing all men as Alphas/Betas, all women as the same...its a way for red pillers to comfort themselves from the complexities of emotion and relationships. its easier to think "everyone is this way" rather than "people change all the time and are all different." the latter is sorta scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:36 PM
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women have have lots of casual sex are bad, unless the sex is with me of course! promiscuity is bad, but only for women, of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:30 PM
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dunno if this is just for me, but the idea that men and women cant be friends just as men and men or women and women are friends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:28 PM
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i think you'll be better off realizing that you wont have sex with every woman that interacts with you. getting horny from every woman that is friendly with you is pretty absurd. thats why women have a hard time warming up to men sometimes. who wants to be friends with a dude when you know all theyre thinking about is getting in your pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:59 PM
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my best friend recently went on a couple tinder dates with a girl, he told her he'd prefer not to see her again, she responded with "thats good because i was seeing this other guy tonight" my friend called her out on trying to make him jealous and she apologized. i'd feel bad for any less secure dude she might try that on who might actually fall for it. i think that's a great example of manipulation, its sort of dread game, albeit more obvious than usual
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 01:53 PM
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having platonic friends of the opposite gender is a great way to demystify the opposite gender. id be interested to know how many red pillers have female friends that they dont alter their personality for. OP, what about the scenario of women and men just being friends without wanting to get in each others pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 01:22 PM
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Every man will benefit, significantly, from being better looking, more fit, more successful, more socially apt, and more versed in useful skills and interesting hobbies. every woman would benefit from this too. maybe everyone should try to be the best version of themselves without having other people in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 05:03 PM
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because thats just how it happened. so many guys started using that term when they cant get laid that it became sort of an internet meme. if girls collectively got bitter enough about rejection and used that phrase it would be a thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:22 PM
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stereotype generalizations are made by people that have prejudices. they are extremely unfair. stereotyping isnt some instinct to process information, its a learned behavior that often alludes to some inner sexism/racism
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 04:47 PM
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honestly dudes say it all the time. does no one remember /r/fatpeoplehate? it was almost exclusively pictures of women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 04:41 PM
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just because some people are assholes doesnt mean there's some social hierarchy dynamic happening. men reject and ridicule women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 04:39 PM
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why does the context have to be gendered? there are men and women in college alike who sleep around, i dont give a shit about that humans buying sex is another story, im not sure how decided i am on it. i have no problem with men/women that are secure and healthy with themselves that make money thru sex. but there are men and women who are in the business to support drug habits etc. dunno what the point of this comment is ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 06:20 AM
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usually sex positive means "everyone expresses their sexuality as they please and are involved with enthusiastic consensual partners" a woman/man that has a lot of consensual casual sex is within that a woman/man that approaches others in inappropriate places and makes people feel uncomfortable is not within that. lots of people are able to get laid and have relationships that dont begin with staring at the uncomfortable college student from across the bus. any questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:43 PM
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Rape is an act of forced sexual intercourse. Unless you have a reason to believe a person is going to make a sexual advance on you, such as cat calling you, touching you, making references to sexual acts, you have no reason to believe he will rape you. typically when you're dealing with strangers you dont know if they will cat call or be generally sexually aggressive towards you. that's why strange men staring at you on a bus or something is scary sometimes. dont pretend like you dont understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:38 PM
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generally if you're compatible with someone you're in for a good relationship. one's sexual history doesnt necessarily affect that. people comfortable with their own sexuality and virgins alike have potential to be great/terrible partners and believing that it has anything to do with their sexual history is only going to make things bitter, difficult, and confusing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:26 PM
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i think its more that TRP got big just around when tumblr and feminism started becoming mainstream for me its like watching reality shows and To Catch predator....reading TRP makes my brain melt but i cant look away
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 05:36 PM
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in my experience, anti-PC people usually draw the line when white men are being criticized/made fun of
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:37 PM
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honestly it seems like Red Pill urges its members to have a mentality of "she said no? that's fine, i wont let it affect me, ill just move on" which i think is worthwhile. still, a whole lot of its members are far from having that mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:57 PM
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sometimes it genuinely makes me laugh, but it was so obnoxious i had to filter it out of my frontpage. trump's a salesman. he knows what to say to get attention and votes. im interested in seeing if his old liberal views resurface to gain liberal votes. he already said something about trans people being able to use whatever bathroom they want which caught me off guard. his promise of building the wall is a great example of saying something for the sake of getting votes with absolutely no intenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:34 PM
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creep shaming exists because men and women are creepy. youre kidding yourself if you think women cant be just as creepy and sexually aggressive as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:32 PM
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i get pissed when blue pill calls red pillers virgins/neckbeards, but i dont think i would be downvoted for expressing that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 07:30 PM
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sure they are. RP is an exaggeration of the toxic masculinity that lots of men feel in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 07:29 PM
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Toxic masculinity is one of the ways in which Patriarchy is harmful to men. It refers to the socially-constructed attitudes that describe the masculine gender role as violent, unemotional, sexually aggressive, and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 07:27 PM
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^ perfect example of toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 07:25 PM
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if you cheat on a test you still pass but its at the expense of not being any smarter or more disciplined you can use redpill and get laid but its at the expense of manipulating and emotionally abusing others hows that analogy? we all know how much red pill likes analogies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 01:24 PM
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i did roll my eyes and cringe a lot. i think its pretty funny that you put some women in the white house (not enough, anyway) and tell men to stop treating women like walking sex toys and the misogynists lose their minds. people said that giving minorities equal rights would cause the downfall of society and we now realize that was silly (though some terpers might still think that). i think what will happen is women will continue to gain more equality and misogynists will continue to complain an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:51 PM
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men are encouraged to be competitive in their career to impress women while women compete in other things such as looks i mean, maybe you personally think the point of life and career is to impress women, but the vast, vast majority of people (regardless of gender) are generally motivated by more substantial things like making a living and success. i dont know what kinda planet you're living on but i've seen just as many success-hungry and productive women as men and just as many burn-out women …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:25 PM
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i feel like there exists a demographic of men and women who have no idea that social lives exist outside of bars and frat/sorority parties, RP seems to attract these people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:19 AM
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seeing CWM not only mod the_donald but also make racism allowed was extremely validating for my views of Red Pill being conservative racist trump supporters sure ya ya he doesnt represent everyone, but damn if he didnt say some fucked up shit during his time here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:18 PM
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is there any difference between intentionally celibate men and intentionally celibate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:34 PM
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i just realized that i only have one single straight male friend. he's sorta picky tho and doesnt date much. so not often. im getting old...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 03:39 PM
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lol that guy has funny logic wants to make a statement about transwomen being creepy in bathrooms; is creepy in bathrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 01:35 PM
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Not to mention they act like they're somehow entitled to be praised for things of the past. "Men built civilization and this is how they repay us?" Really? Did you personally built civilization? Do you think no women at all ever played any role when it comes to civilization? Do you think civilization would survive without women? anyone that thinks men deserve credit for the world need a review of history. im sure the dudes that say "women should be thanking men for civilization!" are the same du…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:51 PM
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i get it. it must comforting to have the entire world split up and quantified. its easier to come to terms with ideas like hypergamy and alpha/beta than it is to accept that people are extremely complex and changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:47 PM
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i think splitting the entire male population into two groups is absurd and black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 01:40 PM
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i agree that trying to make your SO jealous is a natural thing to do. having someone feel jealous for you can feel validating, even if its at the expense of their insecurity. most people mature out of it when they hit their 20s tho. Dread, to me, is giving them the sense of competition. Nothing more, nothing less. i disagree that a "sense of competition" and jealousy are different things in this context but for the sake of argument, what ISNT manipulative about intentionally making your SO think…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 06:39 PM
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