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Vzuv/r/MarriedRedPill30/09/15 05:52 PM
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Vzuv/r/askTRP20/03/15 01:11 PM
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When I started out, I did bodyweight stuff at home - it was the point in which I started hitting the top end of a lot of these exercises that I finally decided to spend the money on weightlifting stuff. http://www.startbodyweight.com/p/start-bodyweight-basic-routine.html
/r/askTRP17/02/16 05:17 PM
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This is just silly pedantry. Sure, technically speaking, people only really "need" oxygen, some kind of food and water, and that's it. You don't need sex. You don't need entertainment. You don't need companionship. You don't need variety. You don't need freedom. Need them to survive? No. Need them to be happy? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:01 PM
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I have to sit 50% of the time I'm no doctor, but you probably need to drink more water...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:35 PM
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It doesn't offend me - it's just not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 08:12 PM
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A lot of this is the fault of the way girls are raised and the way that our culture sells this super idealized version of love and sex. I think that men get their sexuality shamed into repression and tries to force it through the same lens as female sexuality. One of the things that I even had a hard time coming out and saying was that sex was a "need" for me. Not a want, not a nice to have, but a need. If I was not fulfilled, stimulated and interested sexually, it's just not going to work. Part…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/01/16 04:43 PM
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I think treating this as just a shit test is a bad idea. There is an element of shit test wrapped up over a comfort test, here. The comfort test is security. It's likely that she associates you checking out other women with you checking out your options, readying to leave her, things like that. The shit test is whether or not you'll comply with her throwing a temper tantrum every time you do something she doesn't like and change your behavior due to her insecurity. To solve this, you have to add…
/r/MarriedRedPill12/01/16 04:19 PM
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A lot of the consternation involving equality comes from conflating two very different ideas concerning equality. One should strive to give people equal opportunity should they want it. For instance - if I run a company that requires really heavy lifting, (let's say, 100+ lbs consistently) - I should open anyone to try out/interview for this position. However, should I strive for gender equality in my employees? That's absurd. If every company had to maintain a relative equality in their specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:31 PM
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My parents got divorced when I was around 5. My Dad can't ever talk about my Mom without "she's crazy", and my Mom perpetually plays the victim in anything and everything. Even well into my 30's she continues to trickle-reveal little things to continue to legitimize her victimhood. I don't know if it's true, but the fact that every few years she likes to drop a different one just comes across as sad. My Dad got remarried, had a second kid, and my Dad outright told me in my early teens that the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:38 PM
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And it's things like that which give many people in red pill so much ammunition to be so angry. Low value men are literally the lowest of the low in society's eyes. High value men are probably the highest of the high, admittedly. A lot of people have a disdain at high value men and try to punch up - but because high value men are largely immune to criticism then these groups, ironically, group all men together, they punch down at low value men instead because they're easy targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:14 PM
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Expressing rage is different from confrontation. Confrontation can be healthy as long as you can actively avoid it being rage. Being able to express your opinion in a mature fashion is an important part of being a leader, or even an adult in general. To me, people not showing up on time, breaking promises, brushing me off, etc. constitute a lack of respect. And people will only respect you to the degree that you demand it. As an example - a group of friends and I go rock climbing every Tuesday a…
/r/askTRP15/12/15 02:04 PM
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Oh absolutely, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth (nor do I believe) to the contrary. But simply understanding that women build muscle at approximately half the rate (given equal effort) that men do (due largely to testosterone) makes it easier to understand not only that there's a difference, but why there's a difference - and then it similarly makes it easier to not be mad because you feel that there's an unfair double standard. I used to be frustrated by the fact that my wife would ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 08:19 PM
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They're unquestionably related to one another, but they are definitely not one in the same.
/r/askTRP14/12/15 06:58 PM
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When I was younger my belief was much closer to this. Men were stronger because of social pressure to be stronger as opposed to biologically being predisposed to being stronger. Like reversing the chicken and the egg - e. g. there was social pressure on men to be strong/do heavy lifting, so men did the heavy lifting - and as such, they were stronger (as opposed to the other way around). Obviously there's a mix of both at play here, but the root of it is much more the base biological difference. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:55 PM
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I've gone more into it elsewhere - but generally if we had to boil down to codes, "alpha" behavior is putting your own goals above others, and "beta" behavior is putting others' goals above your own. TRP comes across as "nothing but alpha" but that's pretty much because every guy that makes it here is probably high on the beta scale and low on the alpha scale - so the prescription tends to be "be less beta, be more alpha" - but it comes across as "never be beta, always be alpha". It's not really…
/r/askTRP14/12/15 06:39 PM
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I've gone more into it elsewhere - but generally if we had to boil down to codes, "alpha" behavior is putting your own goals above others, and "beta" behavior is putting others' goals above your own. TRP comes across as "nothing but alpha" but that's pretty much because every guy that makes it here is probably high on the beta scale and low on the alpha scale - so the prescription tends to be "be less beta, be more alpha" - but it comes across as "never be beta, always be alpha". It's not really…
/r/askTRP14/12/15 06:38 PM
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LTRs are classified as "red pill on hard mode" for a reason. /r/marriedredpill is a good sub to read if you're interested in LTRs. You can't be pure, 100% alpha in a long term relationship. You have to have a balance of beta and alpha qualities. You have the balancing act of demonstrating high value while also making her feel secure enough that you're not going to up and leave her at the first sign of something better coming along. It's not to say you shouldn't practice abundance mentality. Fail…
/r/askTRP14/12/15 05:19 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:44 PM
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Yeah, I see words like "manipulative" used to describe red pill stuff and it tends to make me roll my eyes. Like racist or misogynist - these are power words. They're thrown out to pressure flip on people. It goes from debating what the issue to attacking the character of the person - and force them to have to defend the indefensible ("proving" that you're not a racist or sexist or manipulative is ridiculous). People can shut down, not have to critically think, throw the word "manipulation" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:21 PM
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Sure - everyone's got individual opinions, but prevailing societal perception is usually what damages people of course. Really the issue sort of boils down to the base social perception that females are victims and men are aggressors. I will say - being totally objective - I do get it. Men are more likely to be aggressors. This can be what's really difficult to come to terms with. Everyone hates to be stereotyped, but people are hard-wired to stereotype. And society collectively reflects those s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:03 PM
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The general societal attitude towards relationships of "of age female + underage male" compared to "of age male + underage female" is drastically, drastically different across the board. Heck, even look at terms like cougar - cougar is not a derogatory term. The male equivalent of a cougar is what... a creeper? A pedophile? Cradle-robber? There's definitely no positive, "empowering" equivalent for an older male going after younger girls. That's not to say that it doesn't happen - we, of course, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:53 PM
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Stereotypes exist and running jokes tend to be rooted in truth - even if not 100%, totally accurate. The AF/BB thing is all over pop culture. Married men having a bad sex life is such a prevalent joke in all of pop culture that it's practically cliche to mention at this point. Alpha guys provide thrill and excitement - beta men provide security and stability. The "women like assholes" and "nice guys finish last" are also prevalent pop culture references. Let's start with the extremes. Your "extr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 05:39 PM
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One of the worst situations I recall is when we had a teacher in 8th grade that was a fresh college graduate. So he was early 20's - and, objectively speaking, was pretty good looking. He barely made it through the year. The adolescent girls were all over him ALL THE TIME, and it didn't take long before people started throwing accusations at him when he started rejecting their advances, it was pretty sad. I recall that he moved out of the state after the year. Then we had to have a sort of assem…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 04:18 PM
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The only thing I'd say is that initial impressions can frame an entire relationship. And while sure, over time, you can cater your communication style to the individual - how you start off treating them and how you engage them on your first couple of interactions can permanently strengthen or permanently poison your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:01 PM
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Absolutely - it was just one example.
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/15 05:51 PM
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I think that if you view things through the TRP lens, feminism only makes sense. It is a result of a proliferation of shitty men. TRP tends to profess things like the 80/20 rule - the essence of it really stating that 20% of the men are "high quality". That means that 80% of them aren't. That means that the vast majority of guys that any woman will interact with are not high quality. That's pretty much why they shit-test, no? A shit test is basically a constant prodding to make sure that you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:23 PM
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The hamster is basically short for the "rationalization hamster" and is basically a concept for how you might see something different and your mind starts to race/wander and often can lead to panic and making up issues in your head that probably aren't true. For instance, let's say your husband/boyfriend texts you and just says that he's going to be home late. Oh god, why? I know his Dad has been having health problems lately, did something happen? Maybe something happened at work and he's reall…
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/15 02:15 PM
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I actually agree with this as well. I find that taking time to expose myself to opposing viewpoints can be very illuminating. It's helped me refine my opinions on a lot of things. I'm also of the firm belief that you cannot adequately form an opinion on something unless you take time to properly understand both sides. So many people like to throw up straw men and knock them down - and they (unfortunately) tend to dominate debates. A lot of the top level replies in this post alone are straw men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:13 PM
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That's the thing, though - people have to realize that men and women are fundamentally different. It's okay that they're different - but they just are. I learned to REACT to shit tests from women the same way I reacted to them from men because that's about me. You can't talk shit to women the same way I talk shit to men, though. That being said, you should treat women differently. Women don't want to be treated like men, even if they say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 09:48 PM
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Before I got into lifting, I did body weight training. startbodyweighttraining.com was the resource I used, and it gave a detailed plan for progressing through exercises starting with pretty easy one - I eventually peaked in most of the exercises there, but I did most of them with just a pull up bar that I could hang over the door. I couldn't do pull ups when I started, and now pull-ups are easy to me.
/r/askTRP23/11/15 08:52 PM
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One of the weirdest sort of "revelations" I've come to when doing TRP is that, ultimately, if I wind up regarding women and treating them like they're just any of my guy friends, things work out much better. Men shit test each other constantly, but it's usually pretty well understood that it's all friendly and just for shits and giggles. For whatever reason, this comfortable dynamic guys have associating with other guys tends to evaporate when we interact with women. Largely because of the whole…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 05:46 PM
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Slap her on the hand when she does it.
/r/askMRP20/11/15 06:17 PM
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You say 25%, I say 95%. Who's right or who's wrong? Hard to say. All I know is what I was doing wasn't getting me what I wanted - and what I am doing is getting me what I want. Not just in my romantic relationship, but in the rest of my life as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 07:49 PM
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Really? Yeesh. Then she's making something up in order to get you back under her thumb. Don't act hurt around her when she says it, don't even care. I mean, really, if she doesn't find you attractive what's she gonna do, stop fucking you?
/r/askMRP16/11/15 01:48 PM
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I don't think so - I feel that masculinity and femininity tend to have a complementary dynamic in a way that pairing masculinity and masculinity or femininity and femininity doesn't quite do the same. I mean, sure, several homosexual relationships have a well-documented dynamic that one of the couple takes on a more masculine role whereas one takes on the more feminine role. In that case, though, it wouldn't make sense as you'd simply be narrowing your list of potential people to get with. Obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 08:35 PM
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The whole concept of someone's SMV is, at the end of the day, subjective. While there tend to be some trends in what guys find attractive (hip-to-waist ratio, for instance) - other things are totally subjective. Sometimes there are certain traits that for certain people throw people from a 6 to an 8. For me, for instance, being a redhead is like a +2 in SMV just in and of itself. My 8 might be someone else's 6 - and vice versa because they have certain traits that just specifically do it for the…
/r/askTRP12/11/15 09:34 PM
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If I had to give a few main "red pill values", they'd be: You're responsible for your own happiness - if you're not happy, you should take steps to remedy that. You cannot control what other people do, you can simply control your own behavior. From those, you then get the real essence of it "If you really want to attract high quality women, focus on becoming a high quality man." And then outlines what it considers to be a high quality man. Red Pill Women is pretty much the exact same thing as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 06:35 PM
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TRP's divorce stance is a little more oddly nuanced. In a lot of cases, divorce isn't encouraged - however, it's very much promoted that you must approach your marriage with the attitude that getting divorced absolutely most be on the table - and you must be willing to walk away if you're not happy. Otherwise you have no real power in the relationship and your wife has no real reason to change. I do agree though, that as a whole, it encourages you to try to fix your current marriage as opposed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 06:27 PM
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There are some preferences you can set (like whether or not you're okay with international shipping) but nothing on the level that you're asking. There may be some attempts at whatever goes on behind the scenes to relate similar people together, but you're not going to get red pill people.
/r/askTRP11/11/15 05:05 PM
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This is like the amusing equivalent of "red pill, what circumstances do you think it's okay to rape women?" and its equivalent loaded questions on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:42 PM
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I don't drink period. I've never really incurred any overt pressure to drink, once I laid down that I simply don't drink. There's always a but of unspoken social pressure to drink, of course - and I just tend to ignore it. To some degree I tend to not take to events that I know are drinking-centric because, frankly, it's boring - there'll be the inevitable one-two hour conversation ABOUT drinking which I'm naturally unable to contribute to. Sometimes people at work invite me out for drinks and I…
/r/askTRP10/11/15 06:03 PM
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Yeah - I got into red pill near the beginning of this year, and immediately noticed a marked difference and it likely saved my marriage as well. I won't say that every issue has been permanently fixed, but everything is definitely making progress in the right direction. I then had a period where I got laid off, broke a lot of the good habits that I'd gotten in since adopting TRP because I wasn't working and didn't have a great routine, and really let my self slack. Things started to slip again -…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:46 PM
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It's a form of ego protection. Take religion - I'm not here to trash talk all religious people because there are some good religious people out there - but a lot of "criminals" find religion when they're in jail, and then use it as their moral compass - and then tend to insist that people need religion to be their moral compass as well. And then tend to paint NON-religious people as those that cannot be trusted. Because then they project themselves pre-religion on other people and assume that ot…
/r/TheRedPill09/11/15 07:02 PM
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I think that our (millenials') perception of "in shape" has warped dramatically and that's part of the problem. People view being under 200 lbs as being in shape, and that's simply not the case. At 5' 8", and under 180 lbs, I'm still slightly overweight - but you would probably have a legion of people lining up to claim that I'm not overweight. Our line has shifted almost to the point that "not obese" = healthy, and that's not true at all. While I do think that millennials are waking up, the bas…
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 05:49 PM
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Cable cutting basically means "not paying for cable TV"
/r/TheRedPill06/11/15 05:46 PM
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You're responsible for your own happiness - do whatever makes you happy.
/r/askTRP06/11/15 03:39 PM
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I needed this. It's spoken to me in a manner that I probably needed. Thanks!
/r/MarriedRedPill05/11/15 08:30 PM
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I think that when TRP states things as absolutes it isn't necessarily true, but it is beneficial for new readers to see it as an absolute in order to quickly internalize the behavior that goes along with it. This is such a great statement and very much highlights one of the big disconnects. Take the quote below from /u/woefulwank: Women are physically inferior to men for example. No debate. This is one of the few gender differences in which one gender is demonstrably worse than the other gender …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:54 PM
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Men would likely be very happy to commit to the mythical "unicorn" as TRP calls it. It's essentially a physically attractive woman who will do the sexual things he wants - and do them enthusiastically. Who causes minimal drama in his personal life, while also having unwavering loyalty to him. Obviously this is IDEAL Outside of that, a lot of other things - such as education, income, etc. etc. are relatively minor concerns - although they are bigger concerns to some than others. Take a poorly edu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:50 PM
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The Red Pill term is generally more "orbiters". Basically a guy that hovers around her, attending to her needs, giving her validation in exchange for the hope that she'll fuck them, but never actually does. If you look at it as if men are the gateways to commitment, and women are the gateways to sex, then an orbiter is a man who gives a woman commitment without sex, and a plate is a woman who gives a man sex without commitment. Women like orbiters because they make them feel good about themselve…
/r/askTRP04/11/15 02:05 PM
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I think red pillers actually think of themselves as the good guy in all this. It's not that at all. "Sexual strategy is amoral" is a statement that we can provide the information, what you choose to do with it and whether or not you choose to use it to an ends that you would consider "immoral" is up to your own, particular, moral scale that's not for us to determine. Take the "nuclear dread" option often given in married red pill. The nuclear option is to actually cheat on your wife, and then te…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 02:01 PM
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I started in January at 215 lbs. I'm down to 178 and I've also gained a lot of muscle. I've lost about 4 inches off my waist, too. I couldn't do pull-ups when I started, and now they're easy for me. I just recently started doing strong lifts, and haven't really quite reached the point where I'm pushing my max. I'm not sure if I have an actual weight goal - probably another 10-15 lbs, I want to see some definition. I'm starting to get it a little bit on my stomach area on the top, but I'd love to…
/r/askTRP02/11/15 05:49 PM
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The thing you're missing is that I don't care about it at all. I've heard about it, rolled my eyes, and moved on.
/r/askTRP29/10/15 08:50 PM
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This is really important. I've gotten such significant pay jumps by being in positions where I can pit multiple companies against each other - and knowing what I was worth. I worked at a company for almost 5 years, and I was just "thankful to have a job". I was making money that I was comfortable with - so why not just keep it quiet and leave it at that? Well, I started to learn that not only was I underpaid, but I was drastically underpaid for my position. It's not a question of greed - it's a …
/r/askTRP29/10/15 05:52 PM
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Lead by example. You can't change her, you can only do you, and if she reacts to you in the way you want, then keep it going - if she doesn't, be prepared to move on if it doesn't change and it's something you won't be happy with not changing. This is pretty much one of the most important Red Pill concepts.
/r/askTRP28/10/15 07:29 PM
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Habits, habits, habits. The challenging part of losing weight isn't always the losing it part, it's the keeping it off. You don't keep it off by regaining and losing the weight over and over - you keep it off by establishing consistent, steady habits that you can keep. For me, some of the biggest things I did wish having a consistent breakfast and lunch - I eat the same, boring thing every day. No thought into it, and I know I'm not getting overloaded on calories. With that, I can eat (practical…
/r/askTRP28/10/15 05:47 PM
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My Dad had a similar thing - my parents got divorced early. He went and started another family - and I couldn't care less about the relationship between him and my Mom. But he was super absent from me, and the interactions I did have with him left me realizing that I would never actually get a valuable father figure out of him. Eventually, I told him everything I thought, and it felt good to get the relief off my chest, just for me. And then, he basically told me that I was crazy and had been in…
/r/askTRP28/10/15 04:17 PM
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Saying you're an anti-feminist is like saying you're an atheist or a socialist or some other label that has typically negative associates with it in normal, everyday society. People will immediately file you away into a cage and not let you out of it. Doesn't mean you can't be one - but let your actions do the talking on an action-by-action basis instead of just throwing a label on yourself.
/r/askTRP27/10/15 08:57 PM
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Don't beat around the bush. If you feel your Dad says something inappropriate to your wife, call him out on it - if he keeps doing it, let him know if he wants to stay in your house, he needs to knock it off. Be ready to follow through. That's all there is to it.
/r/MarriedRedPill27/10/15 06:20 PM
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I'd just watch the four days thing. I've basically noticed that when my wife is really worried about the status of our relationship, she all the sudden goes out of her to really change things. She's much more sexually open, her initiation is something other than just asking me a question. Anal is in the table. She starts dressing more feminine and is much more open/responsive to my leadership. Then things slowly-but-surely drift back into what they were over time as I/we get complacent and I get…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/15 04:11 PM
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They then take these anonymous accounts on the web as sacrosanct to reinforce their worldview, and perpetuate the cycle. You know who does? Children do this. Children make the world fit their narrative because they can't comprehend otherwise, and they actively seek out examples where they can go, "Nuh uh." I guess it's probably different, though, for you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 03:02 PM
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Cherry picked examples to prove the examples are cherry picked
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 01:24 PM
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Ding ding ding. It's issues like this that, to me, feminism really shows its true colors. They've conditioned themselves to the point that admitting or even entertaining the thought that any kind of female privilege exists seems absolutely preposterous to them. The entire identity of feminism is rooted in the mentality of perpetually being a victim - that anything that men have better than women is evidence of oppression, yet paradoxically anything women have better than men is simply "victory o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:01 PM
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I'd say that it depends on the means. Trump is selling himself - and if polls are to be believed - effectively so. His end goal is to become President. Getting attention is how you do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 06:10 PM
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I'm not really sure what kind of response you would expect other than this, but it's really simple: Stop making excuses and just fucking do it. That's it.
/r/askTRP06/10/15 03:51 PM
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If you don't know, you don't know. Say that. Don't act sorry or remorseful, just say "I'm not sure." If it's in an area that you are expected to know the answer, or you feel as if you should know the answer, make a commitment to doing everything you can to figure it out in the future.
/r/askTRP05/10/15 05:11 PM
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This is 100% about custom and tradition. If you are in an area where it is customary/traditional, or grew up in an environment where it was customary/traditional, it's much more likely to be jarring when someone tries to deviate from said custom. If you're in somewhere that it's not customary or traditional, of course it's going to see odd to you that someone wants to do something that is unfamiliar to you. In America it's incredibly common that the wife takes the last name of the husband when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 03:28 PM
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Oh I absolutely know that at the end of the day it's on her - it's not necessarily to mold her. I know that she has expressed some desire in some of these - but actually getting her to pull the trigger is difficult. She has some monthly makeup kit that she gits (cheaply), but generally the only thing she does is paint her toenails (which I like, but I want to push it further). Others, of course, she does shut down the conversation - a lot of times she'll agree to do it short term to placate me (…
/r/askTRP30/09/15 04:46 PM
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I'm sure that there are places where this isn't true - but generally speaking, growing up in the southeastern US for me, unless requested to do otherwise, the default expectation is not to take off your shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:32 PM
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I mean, this is obvious right? It's not seen as lack of respect towards the husband because it is not the cultural default. That's like saying "In America people don't take their shoes off when they come into your house and nobody cares, what's your big deal, Japan?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 12:38 PM
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I suppose what I'd say is that TRP professes itself amoral. What you do with that information yourself is not necessarily amoral. What I said, though, is not really any different - TRP does not encourage people to cheat. If people take what they will from it and decide to cheat, that's within the right to do so - but that's much more an individual thing than it is a TRP thing. In addition, the top two most upvoted posts are much more criticizing/cautioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 06:08 PM
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Have a link to it? I'd be interested in checking it out. What I will say about TRP is unfortunately I can't really speak for each and every one of the people on there - there are a lot of immature, or just plain angry/frustrated guys in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:48 PM
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This seems like you projecting a poor understanding of TRP. The absolute only time I've ever seen anyone suggest actually cheating is like the super ultra nuclear option dread on a marriage that you're pretty sure is dying anyways. I've seen TRP discourage people from getting into committed relationships - but I have not seen active encouragement from anyone to actually cheat on their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:25 PM
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Socializing is a necessary evil - that being said, you can still be introverted. I'm a pretty introverted guy. I also don't drink. The two of these combined make most social groups really awkward. As an outsider, it's almost sad how much people's social life seems to revolve around drinking - either getting together to drink, or talking about how much they drink. At work I was questions when I need answers, I speak when I know what I'm talking about, and I aggressively step up to fill any power …
/r/askTRP29/09/15 03:02 PM
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This wasn't even really a conversation my wife and I had - it just seemed kind of understood that she would take my name when we got married. I'm glad it didn't really even have to be a question.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/15 02:12 PM
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that's the thing.. I've been initiating for like 15 days straight , and haven't gotten anywhere, There always seems to be some reason why its not good.. headache , backache , cramps, etc , bla bla , whatever the excuse of the day is When she always has an issue like that (not saying that SOMETIMES there can't be a reason, but if it's frequent), then the issue is that for whatever reason, she's not attracted to you. She may not say it, she may even vehemently deny it - but just turn around and as…
/r/MarriedRedPill28/09/15 02:05 PM
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Did you get what you wanted? too late then to try to put her back to sleep and get back to where we were . It sounds like you didn't. And then you made up an excuse for her as to why you didn't. Didn't work then.
/r/MarriedRedPill28/09/15 12:53 PM
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At 17% body fat you're in way better shape than the vast majority of people. Your problem isn't your fat. Sure, I can empathize with being a healthy weight and still wanting to get in better shape - and that's still a noble goal to have. But that's not your end problem.
/r/askTRP25/09/15 05:23 PM
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If you can't exercise enough self control to not binge eat for just a few weeks, what makes you think you could exercise enough self control to healthily use some kind of steroids? The problem isn't your weight - the problem is your self confidence and self control. I can't tell you how to fix that. But going on steroids probably isn't it.
/r/askTRP25/09/15 05:15 PM
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You're taking that predictably out of context. Red Pill can make amoral observations, it's not a code of law. What you do with that, however, is absolutely not amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 01:33 AM
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There is a time and place for violence and necessary force, and being able to use it appropriately is what makes it Alpha. I can smell your hamster smoking as it goes into overdrive from here. "I'm not arguing that violence is alpha. It's just that SOMETIMES violence isn't alpha, it depends on who you're being violent towards and why you're being violent towards them! It's not your actions that dictate whether or not being violent is alpha, it's how you feel about those actions!" That's how your…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/15 01:22 AM
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Using violence is absolutely alpha. That doesn't mean that TRP condones it. You have to separate being 100% alpha all the time and being red pill. No one's saying domestic abuse is "okay", what they are saying is that using violence to establish control is, EASILY, a much more alpha trait than it is a beta trait. You can't be 100% alpha all the time. If you are, you'll get locked in jail real quick. Red Pill lauds many alpha traits - and it dissuades others. Using violence to get your way is an …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 10:21 PM
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Though I agree with your premise that violence is alpha - violence to assert dominance isn't "what works" in the real world. Doing it is putting your own personal happiness at extremely high risk because of the societal and social consequences of doing so. Red Pill is about being successful, and using violence to get your way generally is not going to lead to you being successful. You can be successful despite it, but that doesn't mean that using violence is "what works".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 10:17 PM
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There are a lot of immature kids in TRP - that doesn't mean that there's not a lot of more valuable things underneath the very loud and obnoxious surface that most people see when they look into it... Including many red pillers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 10:12 PM
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I can't refute his central assertion because I agree with it. All I can do is say that yes, while using violence to assert control and dominance is alpha, it's not red pill - which I think is an important distinction to make given the context of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 10:09 PM
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There's nothing unreasonable about this situation - it's just very direct. He has something that he wants and he's unwilling to negotiate. You happen to not want the same thing, and you're not willing to negotiate. You're both perfectly legitimate in having your opinion, and neither is "unreasonable" with refusing to cross your own respective line in the sand. You both have the same choice - reconsider your stance, or end the relationship. Neither one is the right or wrong answer.
/r/askTRP06/05/15 07:38 PM
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I'd say sure, using violence to get what you want is, at the end of the day, a pure, 100% alpha trait. I don't think TRP would push a guy to be pure, total alpha at all times - that would be ignorant of all the consequences that come with it. There's not really a realistic pure alpha or pure beta - everyone has some mixture of the two. So while I'd say yes, beating your wife is alpha, it's not red pill. Red Pill in general recognizes that being pure 100% alpha at all times is bad for a lot of re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 05:53 PM
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I drive a Prius because the logical side won over for me. It is the most commonly reported car to go over 200k miles and I get ~50 MPG in it. It's also got a lot lower cost of ownership and insuring than a really sexy car. I'd rather have more money on my bank account than a status symbol. That's not to pass judgment on others - different people have different priorities. Mine is early retirement, so I went with a car that fit that idea. It's not like I wasn't tempted to get a really nice/flashy…
/r/askTRP06/05/15 05:08 PM
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There are a few more factors to it than that. Not only do they have to see a superior male, but they also have to feel like they can get away with making the jump (called "branch swinging"). I mean, the biggest risk that a woman takes by attempting to branch swing is that the better man rejects her when she attempts it, AND the other man rejects her when she tries to come back, leaving her worse off than she was when she started. This is always a risk, too, because you can't always immediately i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 02:46 PM
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You're a little confused about hypergamy. A woman's criteria for a "better man" are a bit mixed. There is a combination of alpha and beta traits that women ideally look for in a man that they want to nail down into a commitment. You need to simultaneously be a provider and a leader and a super masculine man. The "ideal" man for a woman to be in a LTR with is good looking, loyal, makes great money, is dominant, is calm, is stoic, can lead, and doesn't waver under pressure. However, when looking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 02:32 PM
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I know this is really "easy", but there are a lot of Frozen Vegetables that you'll often see as "steamables" or "steamers" or something like that - you prepare them simply by putting them in the microwave for a few minutes. Just make sure you look at what you're getting - a lot of them sneak in stuff like potatoes or butter, but there are plenty of good options with like broccoli, squash, carrots, etc. And since they're frozen, they're easy to store and you don't have to worry about them spoilin…
/r/askTRP06/05/15 01:30 PM
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To be perfectly blunt - whether you like it or not, this is the way life works. We can have a debate on whether or not it should be that way, but the fact of the matter is that it is. Your choices aren't play or not play, simply how you play. You're playing whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 01:25 PM
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I think a lot of women don't like fit/in shape guys (not hugely muscular bodybuilders or anything) because the thought of being in a relationship with one makes them insecure, or because they project perceived personality traits that are unrelated. They like the physical side of it, but it makes their hamster spin in that they're concerned that were they to be in a relationship with one, they'd be more likely to cheat, and/or the woman would have to put in a similar amount of effort to be in sim…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/15 07:59 PM
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If one of your motivations for having children is to have someone to take care of you when you're old, you're a greedy, selfish fuck that has no business having children anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 03:07 PM
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I often get denied because I have not got her to the point where she is ready. This is her hamstering a lack of attraction, in my opinion. "I'm too tired", "I've got too much on my mind", and all the other varients are valid reasons... sometimes. If they're frequent, then it's her simply not being attracted/sexually interested and giving you an excuse that she knows you'll accept that makes her not feel bad about denying you. Heck, a good amount of the time, her entire participation in sex is a …
/r/MarriedRedPill04/05/15 12:12 AM
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Absolutely. Look, there's a pretty well-kept secret when it comes to a dominant/submissive dynamic: short of oppression, you can't really be dominating over someone who isn't willing and able to be submissive. Someone who constantly judges you, questions your authority or your decision making ability (offering feedback is great, openly questioning is not) not only makes it difficult to be dominant, but takes you out of the "dominant" mindset. If you are someone that is naturally dominant, it is …
/r/RedPillWomen16/04/15 03:25 PM
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For me with my credit card, I follow the rule that I never buy anything that I don't have the cash to buy, and I immediately pay it off every month, no matter what. Credit Cards can be great with good credit, but ONLY if you NEVER pay interest. Never think of a credit card as an addition to your budget. If you continually find yourself doing anything other than paying your credit card in full every month, unless you had a really major emergency, you are not mature enough to properly handle a cre…
/r/askTRP16/04/15 02:49 PM
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I would generally say that TRP's attitude is that women are naturally hypergamous (the definition, admittedly, is hijacked to mean "women want to have a relationship with the highest quality man possible") and men are naturally polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:55 PM
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We can't limit people in the world or in our minds if we want everyone to live up to their potential. Sure average men are physically larger and can lift heavier things than average women. So what? I think it's ridiculous to insinuate that men and women are equal in all matters mentally. It's particularly ridiculous when there are so many physical inequalities that are too obvious to deny - and those physical inequalities are largely caused by hormones which additionally affect the mental proces…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 05:18 PM
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Basically, "alpha" traits are traits of dominance and leadership. You're the one most responsible for your own happiness. "Beta" traits are traits of being a provider - doing things to bring comfort to others, even if it's at the expense of your happiness. No one's a "pure" alpha or pure beta - and well-adjusted people have traits of both. TRP takes it from the perspective that "plugged in" men tend to have too much beta and not enough alpha - and how much "alpha" you should exhibit depends on y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 03:48 PM
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As the other poster said - I can't really change your view, because I don't disagree with it. Being emotional can sometimes be more valuable than being rational. It is situation dependent and hard to judge in the moment, of course. I not going to go and defend what every little kid that posts on TRP says any more than blue pillers are going to go and defend what every person on TwoX or something says.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 08:47 PM
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A lot of RPillers say that women in general make more emotional decisions than men and they use it as a way to shame women You're projecting. Red Pill makes observations and, in some cases, I think a non-red pill person takes that as "shaming". Do I think women make more emotional decisions and men make more rational decisions? Yes. Do I think one is particularly better than the other? In reality it depends on the situation, there is a place for both and it depends on the context and the situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 08:42 PM
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My wife isn't terrible - I see a lot of people making observations or descriptions of their wife as if they are these awful, controlling harpies and they've been beta-fied by their dominant wife. My relationship absolutely isn't like that - I definitely see the potential to get to where I want to be - and it's largely my fault for not being there. I'd say our relationship was fairly red pill in most ways (money, decision making, general dynamics - we had the captain/first officer thing going on …
/r/TheRedPill10/04/15 03:23 PM
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Yeah, I learned this about my wife - not nearly to the extent of the original post, but it's NEVER going to leave my mind. My wife had threesomes, anal, D/s relationships and things like that in relationships prior to me, but not with me. I have let it eat me up terribly inside (and it still does to this day). We dated for a long time before having sex, etc. etc. and I feel like it permanently damaged our relationship in ways that I'm still trying to push through now. I feel that my understandin…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/15 09:03 PM
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It's hard to arbitrarily make note of this in text form. "No" means two entirely different things depending on the tone, and physical resistance means two entirely different things depending on mood, body language, stuff like that. In reality, you have to use your own judgment on it - don't rape her, but if she's resisting, try to indicate by your words/tone that you think she's being playful. If she's not really being playful, she should make it obvious.
/r/MarriedRedPill09/04/15 02:27 PM
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Indeed - it's always kind of hard to articulate these things, reading yourself so accurately described here can almost be creepy.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/15 06:25 PM
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what do you think about the fact that people are generally harsher on RP men, while RP women have it easier, even if they both follow same/similar philosiphies ? I think this is because "red pill women" are generally not nearly as outspoken as "red pill men" are. I mean, it's basically the dynamic - you have the dominant captain, and the submissive first officer. People generally do not have poor interactions with submissive people - because submissive people tend to keep more to themselves, go …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 05:43 PM
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They don't "need" to justify it any more than anyone "needs" to justify anything - that doesn't mean that one can't attempt to have a discussion about it and see if there is an explanation to it. Not only does it seem as if polygamy (or polygyny, which is probably the more appropriate term) something that seems relatively common in not just human history but in similar species than polyandry. Additionally, from a logical perspective, it makes sense why one man + two or more women would be better…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 05:33 PM
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Heh, there weren't a single one of those points that I didn't find myself enthusiastically nodding to.
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/15 01:59 PM
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See, it's weird that you say this, but what the guy you responded to posted is exactly what I get out of TRP and almost exactly how I read it. TRP has an bad signal to noise ratio - most people that go there don't just show up being highly successful people simply seeking to impart their wisdom. But there are an awful lot of nuggets of wisdom - the first and foremost being self improvement. That's pretty much step 1 of TRP. Internalize blame - instead of worrying about things you have no control…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 07:00 PM
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I feel like feminism cares about men's issues only when they feel that certain men are experiencing some of the same issues that they themselves feel like they are experiencing. These do generally tend to be less masculine and more feminine men. I feel that feminism is an appropriate term - and if feminists simply said that their mission statement was purely for the advance of femininity, I would feel they're at least being genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 05:07 PM
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You have to take into consideration that feminists can't pay everything attention. No one can. Feminist activists and organisations have an agenda, which they consider a priority. Do you think there is something wrong with that? Feminism is an egalitarian movement, not a female movement (or, at least, it's supposed to be). However, they make it a priority and agenda to devote their focus almost exclusively to female issues, then I do see something inherently wrong with that. If they want to call…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 02:38 PM
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Racism and Sexism are irrational by definition because they're all encompassing statements that make assertions of truth about people that are purely based on their race/sex. "Most" and "average" may be true, but "all" is almost invariably untrue. "Black people are shitty tippers" is racist, "black people tend to be shitty tippers" (when backed by evidence) is not. It's a semantic argument, but an important one. That being said - many people would call the second one racist as well. Assuming it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 08:30 PM
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I've been improving myself significantly in several aspects over the last several months (physical, appearance, being dominant, hanging out with male friends) and it very much came across to me that she was trying to push back against me. I actually very much feel that she is growing uncomfortable with these changes and did this to attempt to push back.
/r/askTRP20/03/15 06:37 PM
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Tone doesn't communicate over text - but it wasn't a "playful/ironic" tone. The tone and expression given was quite serious. Serious enough for her that she was willing to cut the valve if I didn't do what she wanted.
/r/askTRP20/03/15 06:33 PM
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I took Vyvanse for about a week (prescribed by a doctor). I stopped after that because I had chest pains and thought I was having a heart attack (mid 20's). I wasn't, but the pain experienced was on the lowest dose. I did, then, go on Adderall and had a better experience - but basically it went like this. The first few months are literally the greatest feeling of your life. You can focus, your motivation is amazing, you have so much energy that you can do anything. My metabolism went up and I lo…
/r/askTRP20/03/15 05:07 PM
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Ask yourself: What benefit would you get from calling him out? If you can't think of a real, tangible benefit that would come to it, it's probably not worth it. I can't think of any myself.
/r/askTRP19/03/15 08:01 PM
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Honestly, one of the biggest and most important realizations of being TRP is this: No one cares about you. No one's going to feel bad and pity you if you fail. No one's going to be there to shove you along, pick up the pieces if you fail. It's all, absolutely, 100% on you. To some, that's overwhelming and intimidating - to others, it's absolutely liberating. Fuck other people and what they think - if you succeed, it's on you. But if you fail, don't you dare try to blame someone else, circumstanc…
/r/askTRP18/03/15 08:53 PM
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I don't even think she's the exception. The younger one of the two still looks better. The older one might be more immediately sexual because of what she's wearing - and how much obvious effort she put into looking better (makeup, more attractive clothing, and I assume dyed hair).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:23 PM
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My wife and I did this. $35 for the marriage certificate, and like $50 (combined) for the tungsten rings. We then put a $40k down payment on a house 6 months later, instead. I'm 30 and that mortgage is our only debt - feels good to not wrack up debt for stupid shit.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/15 03:06 PM
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You're not worth having a discussion with. You put words in people's mouths then demand that they defend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 06:17 PM
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I disagree with this entirely. Going to Harvard just means that you got a high SAT score and have done a lot of extracurricular activities. Who cares what it means? What matters is what people think it means. People associate Harvard with top notch - that you have to be smart, motivated, and have high chance of future success in life. Regardless of if it's true or not, going to Harvard is absolutely a status symbol. If you go to a lesser-known school, sure, it's not a big deal - but Harvard will…
/r/askTRP12/03/15 03:09 PM
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It would be great if your girl has the self control to avoid lashing out or acting like a bitch, but that's not always gonna be the case. PMS is some powerful shit. This is what I mean though - it's not powerful shit. It's an excuse.
/r/askTRP11/03/15 03:08 PM
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This is along the same lines as "don't shit where you eat." You should stay away from co-workers or customers in any job - and, honestly, being a professor at a university is probably one of the least acceptable avenues to try it. Even if it's "acceptable" and "legal", it's still not worth it - it could seriously damage your reputation and make a lot of negative influences in your life.
/r/askTRP11/03/15 02:34 PM
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This is the only time when a bad attitude/behavior is semi-acceptable. I disagree entirely on this. The only reason that bad behavior stems up is that she thinks she can get away with it with you. A good way of looking at things like this is to ask yourself - if her boss (assuming you aren't her boss) made her mad, would she have a temper tantrum in front of him and try to blame her period? If she would, she's got much bigger issues and isn't worth the time. The answer is almost assuredly no. "I…
/r/askTRP11/03/15 02:29 PM
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Women look for any and all excuses they can to legitimize bad behavior in a way that makes it look like it's not actually their fault. PMS is their ultimate pussy pass, because they feel men can't call them on it. So call them on it. But don't bring it up first. Ask her why she's disrespecting you, etc - if she blames the PMS, tell her that it's unacceptable, PMSing doesn't give her an excuse to treat you poorly. There are acceptable side affects to PMSing, but being a bitch to me isn't one of t…
/r/askTRP11/03/15 02:25 PM
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Tell her she's being childish, and you'll consider having a conversation with her when she's willing to be a mature adult. End the conversation, and go somewhere else for awhile.
/r/askTRP11/03/15 02:07 PM
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You can't expect him to know what you do or don't want without saying something about it - but talk to him about it like a woman who wants to inspire her man, not like a mom lecturing her son.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/15 01:41 PM
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Alphas love alphas working for them, but betas absolutely loathe alphas underneath them. And they should - I hate working underneath a beta person and if I realize that they're beta, I will slowly try to push them out of their position (or at least of having any authority over me). Most middle managers are absolutely betas and it is infuriating.
/r/askTRP10/03/15 05:47 PM
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It depends on how overt you are about it. Particularly in positions where either a) They have authority over you, or b) You have authority over them. For b, you have to worry about some sort of HR oriented violations and "offending" people going on. For a, in my experience, female authority figures tend to be extremely sensitive to being questioned or undermined, and react very over the top if they even get the inkling that you are doing so. They will try to dominate you - and if you're like me,…
/r/askTRP10/03/15 05:43 PM
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The problem I see with taking a restraining order out on her is that it makes her more likely to escalate. The more it escalates, the more likely you are, as a man, to come out negatively.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 04:42 PM
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A rich girl is less likely to be a gold digger, too.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 04:36 PM
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You ignore them by doing something that will help take your mind off it. Read, build something, play games, go out, work out, etc. etc. Stop thinking about it, and let it go, and do something that will help you do that.
/r/askTRP05/03/15 04:14 PM
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It's why people tend to bond over celebrities - celebrity gossip, etc. You tend to believe that you "know" them and associate them as, at least, some sort of acquaintance. I mean, case in point is this very topic. We can all have a conversation about Chris Brown and Rhianna, knowing details over their lives, but very few if any of us have ever met or interacted with either of them.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/15 08:32 PM
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Men have: Lower college enrollment/graduation rates, lower across the board grades in school, higher suicide rates, higher incarceration rates, higher sentencing for the same crime, higher probability of being assaulted, higher probability of being murdered, lower life span, higher chance of suffering workplace injuries or death - none of these are major feminism issues. We hear all the time about the dreadful lack of female representation in STEM fields. We need more women in STEM! But nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 03:47 AM
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This is an oft-cited issue that many have with feminism. It very often feels like "if men are ahead, it needs to be fixed - if women are ahead, it's fine as it is." Although feminism at its core professes itself to be egalitarian, it very often comes across as simply something to advance the causes and goals of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 09:04 PM
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Late Teens/Early 20's was, literally, the worst time of my life. Bar none. From mid 20's to now, early 30's, it's been a consistent increase. Men are pretty much at the lowest point in their life in their early 20's to be honest. Finish your degree is, far and away, the most important thing for your life. Get your STEM degree, and focus on getting a good job out of college. If you can do those two things well, the pieces will start to fall into place and things will get better. As far as how you…
/r/askTRP25/02/15 07:05 PM
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She's using sex to manipulate you into getting what she wants - this is a huge, huge red flag.
/r/askTRP25/02/15 06:37 PM
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Are women perpetuating gender roles by not marrying down often enough It's a small part of it probably - another part of it is that a generally cultivated attitude in men from a young age is to be provider. It's far less socially acceptable to be a stay at home Dad than it is a stay at home Mom, and men are much more conditioned to feel a need to be a provider as well. I think that women are probably perpetuating gender roles to a degree - even if it might be rationalized away. A guy that doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 06:31 PM
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I'm sick of seeing this bullshit strawman of the actual position as opposed to RP who seem to think it's 99.5% biologically determined or something Stupid straw men, always straw-manning me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 01:44 PM
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I think that if/when the power dynamics have already been successfully established, it can be discussed much more amicably and openly. My wife even commented, unprompted, last night, that our dynamic when performing tasks as a couple was much better than most because there is no question as to who is going to be the leader and who is going to be the follower. It was my job to come up with the plan and make the decisions, her job to give feedback and do what I say. No power struggle makes things …
/r/MarriedRedPill12/02/15 06:02 PM
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This is a straw man. With exception of maybe an idiot here or there, TRP by and large does not justify men cheating. There are always gonna be extreme idiots everywhere - by and large the advice that I've seen regarding monogamous relationships is that if you are not happy with your LTR and want to cheat, end the LTR. TRP does promote non-exclusivity, but that's not cheating at all. If you have agreed to be in a monogamous relationship with someone, then you're a shitty person for breaking that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 09:51 PM
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The person most at fault here, though, is the woman, not the AMOG.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:57 PM
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My wife had no debt when we started dating - her grandfather paid for her to go to college. I had about ~10k of student debts. It wound up being paid off with money I inherited from my Grandmother when she died right around the time I graduated. We were, as such, extremely lucky. We got married after this and had zero debt - and, additionally, we just did a courthouse wedding for $30, and had a big savings to put a down payment on a house. Our only debt at this point is our mortgage, and I manag…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/02/15 08:46 PM
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This is pretty much a poster child for slut shaming - no one thinks this about women that have lots of sex, they (idiots, to be clear) think it about women that have a lot of sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:09 PM
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I can understand that perspective - and your reaction to it is more suitable than I've seen in many cases. Disagree, but allow them to do whatever makes them happy. I just see a lot of feminists that make it out as if a woman that decides to do such things is simply being controlled by men - which is ironic because it suggests that a woman has a lack of agency and ability to think for themselves. Obviously you're not doing that - I can respect the "I disagree with what you're doing, but if that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 08:06 PM
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This is one of the biggest issues regarding feminism. It's making enemies out of all men. Not men that discriminate, not men that rape, not men that think women shouldn't be allowed to vote. The simple act of having a penis - in and of itself - makes you a bad person. People like this are fortunately in the minority - but they're simply crazy. This person has truly deep seeded psychological issues. While I think that aborting a child simply because of its gender is fucked up - this women clearly…
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 07:04 PM
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The one issue I take with what you said (and I agree with almost all of it) is that you come across as incredibly judgmental and hostile to the idea of getting married and having kids and having that be her be-all-end-all. You've simply achieved the inverse of pressing into - and simply pressured against. This is an issue that I take against TBP and Feminism ideals in general - it shames women for wanting to do things like submissive to their husbands, or be stay at home moms, housewives, etc. e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:43 PM
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As someone who is overweight (15 lbs or so), has been on the lower end of obese (maybe 50 lbs overweight at worse), and has obesity/diabetis run in my family - here is my feeling. Being overweight happens - and some people have it easier due to natural/genetic reasons than others. It is more difficult for some people to be not overweight than others. But that doesn't mean that it's too hard. For the MAJORITY of causes, these are not the difference between being overweight and being obese. Find m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:33 PM
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It's an intentional misunderstanding to attempt to paint TRP as nothing but the absolutely most extreme interpretation of TRP in order to discredit it or pick it apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 04:02 PM
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I cut contact with my Dad. It's simply a question of this: Is your life more valuable with them or without them? You don't owe your parents anything, and feeling like you do is ridiculous. It does sound like you need to stand up to your mother, though - you can tell her no. She's got no control over you. And her relationship with you should be conditional on whether or not you think she positively contributes to it. If she doesn't, then why put in all that time/effort?
/r/askTRP09/02/15 02:57 PM
11

The general rule of thumb, particularly for text message shit tests, is not to respond.
/r/askTRP06/02/15 09:11 PM
14

The thing is, a non-TRP person sees "women are like teenagers" and reads it as if we mean it in a derogatory manner because they want us to say "women and men are equivalent in every facet". Women are like teenagers is simply intended as an observation - if a person chooses to take it as an insult, that's on them.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 09:03 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly. "Taking my clear negative and trying to psyche myself into believing that it is somehow a positive" is silly. I mean, if it motivates you to do better, it motivates you. But motivation and height are unrelated, and to somehow try to pass off that they are related is ridiculous. There are plenty of short guys with shit work ethic and plenty of tall guys with great work ethic. The two are not related.
/r/TheRedPill06/02/15 08:56 PM
1

For me, I handle basically everything significant from a financial perspective. I pay bills, I prioritize savings/retirement, and I'm the final say on any big purchases - although I definitely hear her input regarding it. She does not have to consult me on small purchases (<$100, but we are fairly well off) but anything over that, she informs me of. I monitor our spending almost daily and tell her if we need to scale it back for awhile if we're spending too much and our spending becomes too big …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/02/15 04:57 PM
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Yeah, it's going to be a really crude example, but I feel that it's a decent one. TRP: You're 300 lbs and people don't find you attractive? Well, no shit. Do you find 300 lbs people attractive? Get in better shape to be something that people find attractive. SJW: You're 300 lbs and people don't find you attractive? Those people are a bunch of shallow losers for having their own personal opinions. We should shame anyone that displays any images of in-shape people, because it makes you feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:27 PM
2

The problem that many have in feminism is this branch of feminism that is so counter to the basic goals of feminism that has been brought about by man hating. Equality is about equal opportunity and not equal result. This is ultimately what has made many people sour on feminism. If I am hiring for a job that requires people to lift and carry 100 lbs several times in a day, it is discrimination for me to refuse to interview women. It is not discrimination when 99.9% of my work force winds up bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 03:21 PM
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How do you rationalize your own discontentment and clear insecurities whilst bemoaning women for being insecure? Bemoaning is silly. It's simply an observation and/or statement of expectations. It's not about whether or not men and women are secure/insecure, it's about whether or not it is socially acceptable for men and women to be secure/insecure. It is socially acceptable for women to be insecure, it is not socially acceptable for men to be insecure. Is that fair? Not really - but I can't cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 02:51 PM
1

Red Pill ideals can apply to a lot of things in life - jobs included. In this case: abundance mentality. Now, you have to be careful, because not having a job can be a very bad thing if your situation is not correct. There are a few things that can go bad for you in this - not only can you lose your job, but assuming this is your first supervisory position (maybe not) it can also look bad if you leave your first supervisory position so quickly. From a negotiating perspective, you are in a bad po…
/r/askTRP04/02/15 09:24 PM
3

That's the thing though - if I make a change and notice a benefit, that's all the evidence I need. I really couldn't give a shit if "AWALT" is scientifically accurate, so long as "practically every woman I meet that I am attracted to is like this". TRP is more or less just an advice sharing column. This worked for me, or this has been my experience. It's up to each individual guy to try it for themselves and see if it works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 07:51 PM
2

Yeah, absolutely - I said something similar in a post a couple weeks ago: some people may get a little too caught up in it, but in TRP's case, anecdotal experience is ultimately more valuable to them than anything else. They don't even care if "women are less rational than men" is because of biological differences, or societally inflicted reasons, or is all in their heads. All they care about is "I approached this situation with the goal of x - I adopted y methodology, and got x, therefor it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/15 07:48 PM
1

You are probably not going to love your job no matter what you do. Being able to pursue your interests in your free time, stop when you want, etc. is a luxury you do not have when it's your job. You start to loathe it - you are no longer bound by what you want to do, you're bound by what others want you to do. I got a job in something I'm not too thrilled about - I don't love my job, but I don't hate it. I'd say look for something that you don't hate, moreso than something that you love. In my e…
/r/askTRP30/01/15 09:34 PM
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Do you believe this is true? Yeah, I think a woman's SMV most often peaks in their 20's - whereas a man's peaks in their 30's. In their 30's, a man's looks are probably just a little past their peak, but his career status and social status are also probably just ahead of their peak. It's kind of a convergence of a lot of important factors all being not (but not quite at) their peak at the same time). In your opinion, what determines a woman's SMV? Looks, attitude, personality are the big importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 02:29 PM
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Yeah, a guy that physically abuses you and cheats on you has absolutely nothing to do with TRP. An internet forum does not magically turn a happy-go-lucky, docile person into an abuser. You make a very good point about how she's so quick to generalize that only "sexist neckbeards" go to TRP - yet somehow, her boyfriend was not a sexist neckbeard until he went to TRP. If she was abused and cheated on, she should absolutely dump her boyfriend - but the rest of her post just comes across as rationa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 04:30 PM
2

Why the hell do women keep fucking guys like this? What the fuck is wrong with women? And this is basically what leads to the anger phase of men after they swallow the red pill. Society (and she) will tell you that she wants a nice guy that listens to her, never pressures her for sex, treats her like a princess, does the man work, and splits the feminine work. Which, I guess, she does want that as her beta bux - but most won't fuck that. Or, they may fuck it, but it won't be the same kind of raw…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 01:57 PM
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Yeah, that 1 in 5 study was victims of "rape or sexual assault" - however, people classify anything from being asked on a date by someone they don't like, to being whistled at, or someone unwanted complementing their physical appearance as sexual assault. And then lumping rape into it make it seem worse - then, of course, some even leave out the "or sexual assault" to make it seem EVEN WORSE. It's like saying "3 out of 5 children will be a victim of murder or bullying in school" - neither is par…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 06:24 PM
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Allowing both Male-to-Female AND Female-to-Male transgendered people but not allowing men is pretty much one of the most blatantly anti-men thing I've ever seen. It's basically "if you've ever biologically OR mentally been non-male at any time, you're allowed. If you are both biologically and psychologically male, GTFO - but one or the other is ok." This is the kind of things that really make men feel as if they're being demonized by feminism. There's no real valid excuse to allow both of them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 05:58 PM
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I think you would be surprised, though, at how much it can help. It's not just about how other people look at you, but how you look at yourself. It can help your self-esteem - and changing how others view you will also help your self esteem.
/r/askTRP23/01/15 07:35 PM
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To be fair, for most men on TRP, the "red pill" mentality was almost assuredly not their first method of approach. These methods are not openly taught to the bulk of society (as they're not acceptable by feminism, they are not socially acceptable) - and the few that are probably do not make their way to that subreddit. They've probably tried at least some alternative options and been unsuccessful, which is what leads them to the sub in the first place. You may be viewing it as "Wait, before you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:29 PM
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Absolutely - but TRP doesn't really care about anything short of their own experiences. It's not a religion. It may be a philosophy, sure - and some people may get a little too caught up in it, but in TRP's case, anecdotal experience is ultimately more valuable to them than anything else. They don't even care if "women are less rational than men" is because of biological differences, or societally inflicted reasons, or is all in their heads. All they care about is "I approached this situation wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:20 PM
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Yep, I'm actually having sex with four of them as we speak. I'm using my balls to type to the rhythm of the thrusts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:07 PM
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Again: You can't - you can just simply try the advice, see if it benefits you, and if it does, keep it up - and if it doesn't, throw it aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 07:02 PM
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Get in shape to start with. Your problem to start with sounds like self confidence. Work on getting in shape, work on having a reason to be confident. Take a look at yourself, and see areas that you feel you may be deficient in. Be BRUTALLY honest with yourself. And work on improving them. There's a lot of sidebar literature and recommended reading over on the sidebar on /r/theredpill, that's a good place to start with.
/r/askTRP23/01/15 06:58 PM
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You can't - you can just simply try the advice, see if it benefits you, and if it does, keep it up - and if it doesn't, throw it aside. Generally speaking, most men (particularly those on TRP) have taken the "feminism-suggested route" by default - be the nice prince charming that goes out of your way to be "romantic" and just being a "nice guy" and it doesn't get them anywhere. That's what leads them to seek advice from other sources in the first place. I will say, though, a man is more likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:55 PM
1

Most of TRP involves "this is a pattern I've noticed, and in my experience this is the case." This sentiment is generally communicated with the phrase "AWALT" (All Women Are Like That). TRP over-generalizes - for sure. AWALT is probably more like "in my experience, most women tend to be like that." Whether or not you agree with is irrelevant. TRP's not there for your feelings. It's actually one of the most refreshing parts to me - it's just people expressing their own experiences. Truth be told,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 06:46 PM
2

The core of any and all advice you're going to get here is work on improving yourself. Get in shape.
/r/askTRP23/01/15 06:06 PM
2

I agree with the prospect that women aren't inferior to men, they're simply different. They have different strategies, different motivations, different societal expectations, their minds work different, and they're just physically different. The big thing TRP did for me is that it taught me to stop pointing the finger at everyone else, and point it firmly at myself. Worry about improving myself, stop worrying about things you have no control over - and instead, redirect your effort to trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:52 PM
1

Because you can't rely on a woman to tell you what's in your best interest, she will just tell you to act in a way that's in her best interests. It's one of the real main principles of TRP - don't say, do - don't worry about what women say, worry about what they do. I mean, you can go on somewhere like /r/deadbedrooms and read about how many men were told that doing the chores would cause their sex life to pick up - they did, and it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 05:36 PM
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Nah, being rich is pretty sweet, let me tell you - as long as you have enough pride/respect in yourself to negotiate a good pay for good work, and not be someone who just works extra hours at the drop of a hat and does whatever your boss asks you no matter what, then you'll be fine. Don't be a slave to your job, but you're going to be working either way - may as well get paid well for your 40 hours, and enjoy a sweet quality of life outside of it. Live below your means, though, always, so you ha…
/r/askTRP22/01/15 04:04 PM
2

There's a big thing that people (across all spectrums, race, gender, etc.) are generally much more open to the the fact that they are being oppressed because of things they have no control over than they are to admitting that they are benefiting because of things they have no control over. Everyone thinks they work hard, earned what they have, etc. - the more successful you are, the more credit people tend to give themselves, the less successful they are, the less credit they tend to give themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:59 PM
5

See, but here's the thing - I could spend all day working, come home from work, cook dinner, mow the yard, and I come in and my wife is naked and ready to go? It's gonna happen. If I broke my leg and she was coming onto me on my hospital bed? I'd do it. "I'm tired" (and its cousins I have a headache, too much on my mind, etc) is, generally (not always, but usually) speaking, an excuse that's meant to spare your feelings that's code for "I don't want to have sex with you, and I'm trying to come u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 04:05 PM
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I'm a pretty far left liberal, myself. I think red pill is more a reaction to circumstances as opposed to emblematic of an idealogy. For instance, I work a job at a company that supports companies that I dislike - not because I am a capitalist, but because the world around has dictated that I must if I want to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 01:27 PM
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I'm willing to have a rational discussion with a rational person - but your argument is emotionally based and you seem to have a difficult time separating yourself from your knee-jerk reactions to your misconceptions about red pill. Your conversations almost entirely boil down to "TRP does these things because they are abusive narcissists." If that's what you think, that's your prerogative, but if you come into it with that attitude, you are obviously not seeking any sort of debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/15 12:37 AM
1

Red Pill Women encourage women to not be plates. It's a sexual strategy for both genders. /r/redpillwomen encourages women to be the type of men that red pill men want to engage in an LTR with. There is a back and forth gender dynamic that TRP believes exists, whether or not you care to entertain that thought. Your judgments about TRP are clearly formed long before you made this post or asked this question - it seems a little petty to ask questions as if you want more information when you clearl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 10:02 PM
1

why not, do you lack the capacity to do that? You appear to lack the ability to put yourselves in either the situation of a beta orbiter or a female who has a beta orbiter. Here's a simplification of what the female thinks: "Oh, hey, it's nice that this guy is nice to me. I really like that. Does he want sex with me? Well, I'm not really into that - but I don't want to crush his feelings and feel like a jerk, because that would make me and him feel bad. So I'll just push off his advances without…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 09:49 PM
1

I never made any judgments about the healthiness, quality, of this beta orbiter relationship. Is it wrong or right? That's extremely objective. What matters is that it is, regardless of how I feel about it, I have no power to change this sexual dynamic. TRP is about controlling what you can control - and all that I can control is me. I would like certain people to do certain things - I can't control what they do. All I can do is see how acting in a way where people respond to me in a way that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 08:59 PM
1

Yeah, nuclear options may work, but they're something you should use as a last resort.
/r/askTRP09/01/15 08:40 PM
1

Your definition of narcissism is different than mine - narcissism is fine, healthy and everyone has degrees of it. Too much of it is bad, sure - but everyone is narcissistic. Just because you call my arguments delusional doesn't make them so - on the contrary, I would consider you delusional because you don't believe that everyone's actions are motivated by what benefits them. Pure altruism doesn't exist. People donate to charity because it makes them feel good about themselves, or because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:51 PM
4

Dread is something that a female feels in a relationship when she realizes that there's the potential that you might leave her. If you're a fat, lazy, unmotivated, unwashed slob, she's got no reason to treat you with respect because you're not going anywhere. If you're an in-shape stud that women eyeball, you're successful, etc. - your girl will know that you're appealing to other women, and if she doesn't work hard to keep you, you've got plenty of options elsewhere. In general, you should only…
/r/askTRP09/01/15 07:31 PM
1

The thing is, that in a female/beta orbiter relationship - both sides are getting something. The only difference is that the male beta orbiter just isn't getting what they WANT. The female is giving them something - just not necessarily what the beta orbiter is working towards. Society tells him to just keep being a good beta orbiter, and eventually he will get what he wants. The flaw isn't the relationship, the flaw is that what the beta orbiter is doing is not going to get him what he wants. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 07:23 PM
1

Well, in that case then he's probably either not attracted to you (which seems doubtful) - or he's probably got some kind of aversion to being more intimate, whatever it is. I mean, any steps past this are him being beta and you trying to push him into being alpha - which, well, isn't really very attractive.
/r/askTRP09/01/15 06:18 PM
1

I've basically set the boundaries that we have sex if you're down You may feel as if you've set those boundaries, but from what you've said, I don't think you have. Basically, he wants to have sex - but he's concerned if he pushes you too hard/too early, that you'll go away or reject him. Realistically, he's waiting for you to make a move. If you want him to elicit a reaction in a red pill way (which I assume you do by posting on this sub reddit) - asking him "Are you gonna fuck me, or what?" If…
/r/askTRP09/01/15 05:50 PM
1

Honestly, as long as people doing their own thing doesn't negatively affect you, I personally couldn't care less. Let people do what they want to do and live how they want to live unless they use it to try to harm you or others.
/r/askTRP09/01/15 05:41 PM
1

SMV is a combination of attributes as others have said. Money, Social Status, Personality and Appearance. Improving any and all of these will help your relationship with women - and if some of these are high enough, you can deal with others being poor. There are plenty of women that would have sex with an 10 in the appearance/personality/social status department that had no money - particularly if they are riding the CC and didn't care about a LTR. Financial success is much more important when w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 04:40 PM
1

You said that people don't associate with people that are above them and don't consider them equal - I said that people do it all the time. I was using an example you might relate to because you seem to reject that beta orbiters or plates exist. have you ever been a beta orbiter? Absolutely - and I would wager that a large number of men have - particularly in the high school/college age, where you are much more likely to have consistent access to the same women who are of higher SMV than you. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 03:08 PM
2

Women vastly overestimate dick size - and vastly overestimate how much they would like a giant dick. Most women that fantasize about giant dicks would cringe and cower away at a 8-10+ incher if it came near them, you're not gonna get any kind of meaningful bj and you're definitely not going to fuck almost all of them if they came across it. It's just another example of them thinking/saying they want one thing, and actually wanting another. There are probably a few certifiable size queens out the…
/r/askTRP09/01/15 02:07 PM
1

normal people don't associate with people 'above' them that don't consider them equal. I call shenanigans on this. People do it all the time. Your boss at work is the single most prime example. Other examples might be family members, significant other's family members, "that guy" in their social group, etc. etc. They may not do so willingly or consciously, but they absolutely do it. And everyone is - or, at least, should be narcissistic to a degree. (See healthy narcissism) - People do most thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 01:43 PM
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I don't necessarily think that they're more likely to be narcissistic - I just think that people with low SMV have to put off their narcissism because otherwise they won't be tolerated by people with higher SMV. See plates or beta orbiters. I know that sounds like the same thing, but I don't believe that it is. I think that having a high SMV simply allows you to let out your inner narcissist more freely and because your SMV is high enough, people are willing to put you before them. I mean, if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/15 02:36 AM
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what percent of red pill gets that? Get it at that level? Relatively few - however, I don't think that it's hugely relevant. Most TRP people don't necessarily understand why it works - they simply understand that it works. what percent of red pill gets that only a certain percentage of men and women are narcissistic? Well, obviously only a percentage are - I think the percentage is debatable. TRP has phrases that are AWALT. Most would recognize that not literally "everyone" is like that - but MO…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 09:46 PM
1

Sure - I mean, if you really want to boil down what a lot of people feel about TRP, it's something along the lines of "fight narcissism with narcissism". The higher your SMV is, the more acceptable narcissism becomes (for both genders). I think that BP is ok with female narcissism and discourages male narcissism - whereas RP recognizes female narcissism and says that - well, females are more narcissistic than males are, and are more attracted to narcissists - and narcissists are begrudgingly att…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 08:46 PM
1

Branch Swinging is a risk/reward thing - the higher value your man is, the higher risk you take by attempting to branch swing. The lower the value of your man, the less risk you take by branch swinging because even if it fails, there's a much higher likelihood that either your low(er) SMV man will take you back, or you will be able to be able to find another similar SMV male. Additionally, part of proving that you are a high SMV male is by exercising dread - proving that you have high value, par…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/15 07:41 PM
1

Sure - OP asked what people's experiences were with getting off of addictive substances, not necessarily anti-depressants.
/r/askTRP08/01/15 04:30 PM
2

Attention Deficit Disorder
/r/askTRP08/01/15 01:08 PM
5

I want to start off by saying this - Depression is nothing to fuck with. I know people that have taken anti-depressants, and when they stopped, had no idea themselves that anything was wrong, and have done everything from just closing everyone out, to attempting suicide - even months after getting off them. I do not advise really trying to get off of anti-depressants, particularly if you have "major depression". Now, as for whether or not you want to do that, that's on you - but I think depressi…
/r/askTRP08/01/15 02:41 AM
1

The techniques are amoral, but that does not mean that the person using it is. Some people might see it as a purely binary problem - either you are using TRP to take advantage of women, or women are using feminism to take advantage of you. Some might also say that the only reason that you would classify that as abuse (or whatever you call it) is because feminism has abused men by coaching women to the point that sex should always empower the woman and be put on a pedestal that women should only …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 09:12 PM
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TRP doesn't say that women are inherently inferior - it says that women are inherently different and that feminism tries to pretend as if those differences don't exist (but only when doing so would be to the advantage of women). You may interpret "men are natural leaders and women are natural followers" or "men are more rational and women are more emotional" as "women are inferior" - but that's not really what TRP, at its base, means. There are unquestionably a lot of guys that get this way - pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:31 PM
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Women in general have a ridiculous abundance mentality in relative comparison to men. It's ridiculous the asymmetry and is probably the big thing that leads to there being so many "beta" males that have relatively average SMV while there are much more entitled feeling females that also have relatively average SMV. For an average SMV, non-alpha male, an female is appealing if she shows the faintest sign of interest in you because females showing interest in you is so uncommon. For an average SMV …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:05 PM
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Leave it at that. If she wants to attract your attention over those things, she'll have to put in more effort. Maybe she'll get that hint, maybe she won't.
/r/askTRP06/01/15 06:56 PM
1

You can tell her you were busy without saying you're sorry. "I was busy." You don't have to give any more explanation than that.
/r/askTRP06/01/15 06:25 PM
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