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I'm talking about what may well be going on in her head beyond the standard obvious response every guy wants to say here which is 'duh she's trying to manipulate you bro'. (which may be true, but we cannot know given the level of info given) I did not say he needs to prove himself by paying. Most guys here struggle with a lack of empathy. They don't want to think about what's going on in a woman's head. They only care about what's on in their head 'girl did something I don't like. She's a bitch!…
/r/seduction28/10/16 04:09 PM
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You sound like you binge watched RSD vids and now have a disease where you vomit out their phrases uncontrollably, RSD Tourette's we'll call it. What's most disappointing is how you read something totally different to what I wrote. I'm guessing you're low to intermediate level, correct?
/r/seduction28/10/16 01:47 PM
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Every guy who doesn't despise women and see them as the enemy is a 'white knight'
/r/seduction28/10/16 01:36 PM
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Completely agree...that's why serial killers are usually very intelligent and calculating. We may have gone mildly off-topic here ;)
/r/seduction28/10/16 12:32 PM
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Some girls are very entitled and insist you pay for everything. In this case, I think if anything she seems fearful that you don't like her as much as she likes you, and she's protecting herself. The fact you aren't willing to pay and you don't want to make the effort to travel to her is evidence in her mind of this (and let's face it, she's correct). Girls do this WAY more than we realize. One of their big fears is of feeling used, of feeling like they were tricked. I think she maybe thinks you…
/r/seduction28/10/16 10:34 AM
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I think it's better! It's a bit 'trying too hard', but it's going to be way better than the average message she gets 'hey babez'. Maybe lose the last sentence. I don't anticipate lots of response, but you may get the odd 'lol'.
/r/seduction28/10/16 10:03 AM
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I agree that although it takes you 30 seconds to switch and message her on Insta...she doesn't see it that way. She's thinking 'wow, desperate guy is getting so few matches that he has to stalk girls on their Insta accounts'. Not a great start. And yes, I'm a badass thread hijacker ;) By all means, try out a bunch of different messages and see if you can find something that works. I just don't think it's the best use of your time.
/r/seduction28/10/16 09:36 AM
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This is not theory, this from personal experience. At no point did I say he was to sit in the corner and not speak to anyone. It's about balance. You have to open your mouth to ask questions and direct the conversation. But you have to close your mouth to listen.
/r/seduction28/10/16 09:15 AM
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Yes, and I was trying to get you to see the overall context - it doesn't matter what your wording is, 99% of girls will think you are desperate. Being on Tinder itself is (just about) ok, because you can say 'oh I don't take it seriously, I just swipe every now and then and you matched with me. I only spend 5 mins a day on here.' But the second you see a girl and start going after here on Insta, it shows you're taking it WAY too seriously. 'Assuming attraction' is just an old pickup term that do…
/r/seduction28/10/16 09:13 AM
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Of course it matters what she thinks. She isn't going to even reply to his messages, let alone give this random guy an hour of her time in real life.
/r/seduction28/10/16 09:10 AM
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I'm actually saying don't waste your time doing this - you may get the odd girl here and there, but for the time you'll need to invest, it's unlikely to be worth it. Perhaps there are guys here that do this and get amazing results who can contradict me, but I doubt it. Mentioning she is on Tinder does not level the 'desperation playing field'. Fact is, you swiped her on Tinder and she didn't swipe you. Bad start. So you tracked her down on Instagram, studied all her pics and sent her a message. …
/r/seduction28/10/16 08:25 AM
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Your entire mindset is fucked. You're going into the date thinking 'how can I impress this girl', and when you do something she doesn't respond well to, you're want to know how to 'recover'. Is there no part of you that thought 'this girl is a bit cold and uptight, I don't like this'? Why is it that women lose interest in men very easily, seemingly for the tiniest things...yet men are always interested regardless? But since you asked, instead of acting like I did something wrong, and apologising…
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:51 AM
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Think about the context of how she sees you in general. Does she see you as an attractive guy who she'd be delighted to spend time with? If so, it doesn't matter whether you text/ask in person/send a message via carrier pigeon. Does she see you as an unattractive guy? Well again, it doesn't matter how you ask, because she's going to say no regardless.
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:43 AM
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I'm asking you to think about the context rather than the content. Giving you the answer is way less powerful than you actually thinking about it for yourself. Girls like men who are attractive. Attractive men have options, because they are attractive. Men with options don't have time to date every girl who looks halfway decent - they already have plenty of options. Therefore if you start asking out a girl before you know anything about her, she will assume 'here's another desperate chancer tryi…
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:39 AM
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What do you think a girl thinks about a man who asks her out for a drink when he knows NOTHING about her?
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:26 AM
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This is actually great advice. Much better than this usual 'don't be a pussy, just do it man!', type stuff - which doesn't really help anyone.
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:13 AM
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The answer to the puzzle is...go and find someone new. She's not interested. Start examining your own neediness - what causes you to fall in love with a girl you've barely ever even spoken to? How do you think this looks to her? Is she going to view you as a man she has to work hard to impress, or is she going to view you as a 'yet another desperate guy'?
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:12 AM
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Taking responsibility for your life is something most people refuse to do. Everything is someone else's fault. You've taken the first step towards 'the good life' (as Tai Lopez would call it).
/r/seduction28/10/16 07:08 AM
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The loud and funny person can be entertaining at first, but after a while is often irritating to most people. Reason being, when you're taking the spotlight, you're not giving anyone else a chance to have the stage. Simply spend more time LISTENING. Asking genuine questions. Trying to find out about people. The pickup community seems to celebrate loudness and massive extroversion. This is not necessary to be attractive. You can be a quiet, thoughtful guy and still get many more women than you co…
/r/seduction28/10/16 06:59 AM
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What polarising does is you stick your flag in the ground and say 'this is me! This is who I am and what I stand for!' Then people who are of the same mindset think 'wow, me too!' And they want to join you. What you're talking about is simply respecting another person's point of you. You can still say 'this is me, this what I think...but I understand why you would think that.' There doesn't need to be some massive conflict with people you don't agree with. Also you don't need to have strong opin…
/r/seduction28/10/16 06:51 AM
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I think most guys would say 'yes, go and practice', but I would say save your flirting and interest for the ones you really like. You can be friendly and social with everyone, but going for women who you don't like only lowers your own self esteem.
/r/seduction28/10/16 06:43 AM
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Going up to a girl and asking her if she wants to get coffee is way too much, too soon. It also makes you look worse - because what kind of man is willing to give up 30-60 mins of his time to sit with a girl who he doesn't know anything about? She might be boring, stupid, have nothing in common with you. Most girls when you do this will assume you are either crazy or desperate. If you wanted to do it, you'd be better just saying 'hey I thought you looked cute and wanted to say hi.' BUT - keep in…
/r/seduction28/10/16 06:40 AM
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I feel that therapy/counselling are great at getting us to understand WHY we do certain things, but not necessarily at actually changing those things that we do (based on people I've known that have done therapy. They say 'OMG now I know why I've been in abusive relationships my whole life!!!' - before getting into another abusive relationship). Your lack of self worth is based on your lack of understanding of your own value. I'd be willing to bet I could talk to you for 10 mins and pull out 4 o…
/r/seduction28/10/16 06:29 AM
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Put yourself in a woman's shoes. Generally, women are a lot physically weaker than us. Even a small guy, if he got alone with her, could grab her and do whatever he wanted, and there's not a lot she could do to stop him. Imagine you were gay and attracted to giant 7 foot tall football player type dudes. You don't know when you first meet one of them whether they are good for you, or whether they are a crazy rapist/killer type. You know that if you say yes to the wrong guy, you're potentially in …
/r/seduction28/10/16 06:21 AM
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Yes it is. I think you need to go through pickup style 'how to' stuff before you are ready to hear all this. That's not to sound patronising, I just don't think you're in the right place at the moment.
/r/seduction27/10/16 04:45 PM
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The point of the question was most guys are thinking 'if I learn XYZ I'll become good with women'. It's not that girls don't like sharp guys, it's that it isn't necessary. Guys always think they are not enough, and only need one extra thing and they will be there. And they learn it...and still aren't there.
/r/seduction26/10/16 06:06 PM
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Are you asking this because you're hoping 'if I become more mentally quick, girls will like me more'?
/r/seduction26/10/16 07:04 AM
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No. That's absolutely not what I'm talking about. What you seem to want are specific 'how tos' which are the exact opposite of what you need. However you seem determined to find the information that is going to be least useful for you, so good luck.
/r/seduction26/10/16 06:33 AM
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Ok...I don't tend to talk at great length about this subject on here, because there's not many guys that want to talk about anything on a level beyond 'what should I say when I approach?', 'she didn't text back, what did I do wrong?', etc. But since you asked, start by reading this short blog post (in particular point 2, including the video): http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/values-gentleman-truth-attracting-best-women/ Then, try the following exercise: For the next week in your interactions wit…
/r/seduction25/10/16 12:38 PM
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100% agree. Nothing wrong with a coffee date, done plenty of them before and it doesn't harm your chances. If you're a cool guy, frankly you could take her for an afternoon of shit shovelling and she'll still like you.
/r/seduction25/10/16 12:25 PM
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Excellent. I don't know why anyone downvoted this. In general you don't need to worry about making 'I am interested in you' type statements. If you are both attracted to each other, and you escalate naturally (which is an entire other post in itself), you won't get put into the category of her 'gay shopping buddy' as someone said above.
/r/seduction25/10/16 12:24 PM
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I'm asking you to look in the right area before I give actionable advice. This is not related to improving body language and voice tonality etc. I could talk in much more detail on this but unfortunately it's outside the scope of a couple of posts on here.
/r/seduction25/10/16 12:10 PM
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Sorry but all of that is simply not true.
/r/seduction25/10/16 11:32 AM
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IMO only 2 things are necessarily for a girl I date: chemistry and integrity. Lack of integrity means a massive train crash is due. Lack of chemistry means boredom. Sounds like you are lacking the chemistry with this one (a common problem). This is a great experience for you because you are learning what your requirements are in a woman you date, and you won't settle for less in future. Breakups are hard, and never get easier. Your only way is to be straight, direct and respectful. None of that …
/r/seduction25/10/16 11:28 AM
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When you and the girl are attracted to each other, and you're not blocking yourself with such thoughts as 'will she think I'm creepy if I say/do XYZ', escalation happens naturally and without thought. When you try and second guess everything you do, that's when problems occur.
/r/seduction25/10/16 11:21 AM
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You're thinking way too much about this. If you're available, then meet her friends too. If you can handle the social pressure of her and all her friends, that's attractive in of itself. If you're not available, say no. Think about how much time you're spending in the thought process of 'if I do/don't do XYZ, will she like me/dislike me?' If men stopped doing this, and just did what they felt was right, 90% of their women problems would disappear overnight.
/r/seduction25/10/16 11:14 AM
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Being too interested is seeking her approval (you want her to like you and you need her to validate that). Acting disinterested is still seeking her approval (you're fearful of looking needy and scaring her off). Two sides of the same coin. Women deserve more credit than men give them. If you're a guy with a strong solid presence that doesn't come across as 'just another drone', she will be pleased if you show interest. If you have standards and can walk away from her, if you have shit going on …
/r/seduction25/10/16 11:10 AM
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This only goes so far. Those people that go on X-Factor who think they are a 'singing 10', when they clearly aren't...they get found out fast. You have to have something to back up the bluster with.
/r/seduction25/10/16 11:06 AM
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I agree that the 'just do it' mantras can only take a guy so far. But inner game takes you beyond techniques, not the other way round. You know when a guy walks in a room, and just has your attention, before he opens his mouth? That's presence...and that goes way beyond having a good job, and feeling like a decent human being and being in shape. That's what I would encourage you to focus on.
/r/seduction25/10/16 11:04 AM
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Women are pretty sick of men acting all big and tough and pretending they have it all figured out. A guy that can just put himself out there, warts and all...and let her decide if she likes him or not, is pretty rare.
/r/seduction24/10/16 01:48 PM
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This blog post won't fix all your problems but it will start getting you thinking in the right way: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/values-gentleman-truth-attracting-best-women/
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:07 PM
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We all have a voice in our head that I call 'the critical parent'. This is the voice that kicks us back down again whenever we try better ourselves: We see a girl and want to say hi. The voice says 'women don't like you, what are you doing!?' We decide we want to start a business and make millions of dollars. The voice says 'why is anyone going to buy anything off you? Who is going to listen to you? We decide to get ourselves kitted out in some much cooler clothes. The voice says 'who do you thi…
/r/seduction08/12/15 07:27 AM
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The problem with most advice to combat neediness is that it hits the symptoms and not the cause. Waiting an amount of time before texting back, avoiding 'double texting' and other such things can make you appear less needy to the girl, but doesn't actually make you less needy. After all, you're still sat there worrying and wondering about what's going on with her. Neediness stems from the ego's fear that we aren't good enough, and that this girl will be the last girl who will ever like us, and i…
/r/seduction08/12/15 07:16 AM
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The fear of looking needy is a common one. It leads to guys acting indifferently towards women they actually like, because 'if I show her I like her, she'll reject me'. Some girls will reject you based purely on the fact that you like them, in a 'I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member' kind of way. Do you want to be with a girl like that? Best to find out early. The frame I have with girls is 'I really like you so far, but we barely know each other. Let's see where this goe…
/r/seduction08/12/15 07:10 AM
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I've been in these situations quite a lot and they often fall through. Continue doing what you're doing and just keep things warm over xmas. If it doesn't happen, there will be girls in the future who are doing. You're definitely doing the right thing - being non-judgemental about sex, teasing out her desires and making it ok for her to experiement with this stuff. If it doesn't happen with these 2, it will happen soon enough.
/r/seduction08/12/15 07:03 AM
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I would have to actually speak to you to be able to determine this, but it sounds like you're focusing on techniques, rather than fixing what's underneath. Do you feel like you are worthy of women? Do you feel like you deserve to have a great girl in your life? If not, all the great techniques in the world won't fix the 'I'm not good enough' stench that radiates out of you.
/r/seduction08/12/15 07:01 AM
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We don't have enough info here. Are you laughing naturally at a hilarious joke, or are you forcing a smile? When someone smiles genuinely, they smile from the eyes, which is pretty hard to fake. Fake smiles on the other hand (which are all too common in our society) come from the mouth only. Women are used to men kissing up to them and being overly nice and 'fake happy' in order to gain approval. Some women will see a man with a scowl and think 'well there's a man who's not desperate for my appr…
/r/seduction08/12/15 06:58 AM
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It's because of emotions. Women live in, and make decisions based on the emotions much more than we do. At a party, she's feeling high, crazy, excited, you're pumping her state and her attraction is through the roof. In that moment, she genuinely wants to see you again. Next day - guess what, she's feeling none of these emotions. She's probably hungover, tired - or at the very least, she's sat at home bored. So you have to start from scratch and build her up again.
/r/seduction16/11/15 09:14 AM
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Guess you didn't see the thread I posted 2 days ago, or the link in the description here: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/from-tinder-to-turned-on-rapid-sexual-escalation-via-tinder-and-whatsapp/
/r/seduction15/11/15 02:35 PM
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Everything is a scam. You're right. You've heard a lot of things there that I didn't say.
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:13 PM
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Agree with this...there are cultural differences, but essentially women are women wherever you go.
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:11 PM
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Not yet, it was only a couple of days ago and I've been away all week. I wouldn't normally escalate so quickly - this was for the purposes of demonstration. It's usually better to go a bit slower, and share some rapport based chat- where you're from, what you do etc. Otherwise she'll get turned on, but will often later get buyer's remorse as she thinks 'I don't know anything about this guy'. In general I do this less on text these days and more in person. It's much more powerful. But you can cer…
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:20 AM
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You're in the supermarket and someone gives you a free sample, let's say a piece of cookie. You eat and enjoy it and they then say 'here if you liked that, you can buy a full pack of cookies', do you then get upset, shocked and appalled, and scream 'MARKETING!!!!'?
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:18 AM
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So what makes it 'the worst advice'? What exactly do you think is wrong? Do you think women like being judged for their sexual desires? Do you think they don't want to find a man that they feel safe to let it out all with?
/r/seduction13/11/15 10:15 AM
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It's coming later today. Patience.
/r/seduction12/11/15 07:08 AM
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It's not a case of 'I'm a nice guy. In order to fix this I must stop caring about people.' No! You can be a solid, good guy and still care about others. Make them feel like the most important person in the room when you talk to them. The problem with nice guys is a lack of boundaries, and they usually carry round a lot of shame when it comes to their masculinity/sexuality/desires. I suspect both of these are true for you.
/r/seduction11/11/15 06:07 PM
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Do you really need to go to college and get a degree? Does that guarantee a better job? Could you spend that time and expense into learning something like, say, internet marketing and better a better return on your investment? What actually interests you? What do you enjoy doing in life? Just going and follow the 'society approved path' isn't going to make you happier or any more interesting. Doing what you want to do and following your own path - that's where the gold is. Look at how many peopl…
/r/seduction11/11/15 06:05 PM
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Sorry if I sounded harsh. But why not take the time to put the qualifications in, instead of just writing 'never say excuse me'. If anything, newbies need more explanation of everything, rather than a list of rules and regulations. I'm not trying to 'personally attack' you. But if you know your stuff and you're more than capable, then I'd like to see you writing to the standard you're capable of.
/r/seduction10/11/15 05:45 PM
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Yes I know you call yourself 'Daygame Coach', therefore you know everything, and you are fully evolved and have nothing left to learn in life... You may think you're at level 10, but you give away where you're at when you post this mechanical 'one size fits all' Mystery Method circa 2006 style advice. I'm not saying it doesn't get results, I'm saying there is a better way. You gave a statement 'Never say excuse me!' You didn't qualify it with who can say excuse me, or when, or why. So if you're …
/r/seduction10/11/15 02:54 PM
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It's your energy that determines this, rather than the specific words. You can say 'excuse me' from a supplicating, 'I apologise for being alive' frame, or you can say it from a frame where you're so boss and awesome that you need to say things like this in order not to intimidate people. For example I'll often approach and if the girl looks shocked/surprised, I'll say 'oh sorry, I didn't mean to startle you...anyway...' This isn't a genuine apology, it's a statement of empathy. If you want to m…
/r/seduction10/11/15 07:28 AM
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Can't say for sure, but nearly always with guys I coach in this situation, they have unresolved issues related to shame around their masculinity/sexuality. Men need to be not only comfortable of being a man, but proud of it too. We live in a society that shames men for being men and having masculine sexual desires, so as men, we often hide this away and act like the 'nice friend' before suddenly making a move out of nowhere. I'm not saying this is you, because I don't have enough info in your in…
/r/seduction10/11/15 07:18 AM
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Penguin made a good post on eye contact. The video in this blog post of mine explains eye contact in more detail: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/ Generally this is a sticking point that guys get to when they learn game and get decent at approaching. They can approach the girls, get them laughing and get great reactions. But after a non-specified amount of time, the girls disappear and you're left with your dick in your hand. I call this 'the Comedy Central problem…
/r/seduction05/11/15 06:49 PM
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Sure... Watch this video that explains what I'm all about (it's only 2 mins): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy8uri6OYbc If this works for you, I don't mind whether you're a newbie or super advanced. If you want '6 funky tricks to sneak her into bed', it's not for you.
/r/seduction05/11/15 06:41 PM
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Your problem is very similar actually to a lot of guys - you don't understand your own value, so you can't see why a woman would choose you. There are 2 types of value you can offer: Generic value (these are things that ALL people want) Unique value (these are things that you offer that only certain people will want) I made this video a while back on how to give generic value: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIWNzfG9TUw Just realising all the things you can offer from this video gives you an adv…
/r/seduction05/11/15 11:06 AM
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Ok...I don't believe you want help. I don't believe you want to change. I think you want to be told that your situation is unique and special, and there's nothing that can be done. That you are not the problem, it's not your fault...women want something that isn't you, and you're not wrong here. So here we go - it's not your fault. There's nothing you can do. It's the fault of women for not knowing a good guy when they see one. Look, it's up to you. It makes no difference to me or my life if you…
/r/seduction05/11/15 10:39 AM
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Perhaps you don’t understand what women really want? If there’s one thing they all want, it’s the feeling of safety and protection. This overrides everything. That feeling of no matter what happens, when they are with you, they are totally safe. If a crazed axeman stormed into the restaurant in which you’re eating, she feels you would find some way to make it ok. She can let out her sexual desires with you, without being judged. Basically the feeling of ‘this man has his shit together and I can …
/r/seduction05/11/15 10:09 AM
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No I wasn't kissless. People like to think that their case is different. Their problems are special. Their worries are big and important and somehow worse than everyone else's problems. 'Oh you had your shit to deal with, sure...but that's nothing compared to MY shit.' The fact you think even some fat chick could never choose you - perhaps this belief is at the root of your problems? Perhaps the fact that you can't see your own value shines through to every girl you meet? Perhaps they think 'wel…
/r/seduction05/11/15 09:56 AM
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I hear you. It sucks, I've been there. But what option do you really have? I can remember going out constantly in 2005 for about 6 months and coming home with nothing but rejection to show for every night out. It was really painful. Some nights I even cried when I got home. I said to myself 'why don't you just give this up and settle for some fat girl like other guys do?' But I could never let myself do that. I would always know I'd sold myself short. Taken the easy option because I was too weak…
/r/seduction05/11/15 09:47 AM
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It's hard when you're in the middle of it, but I didn't even find the game until I was 25. I'm now 35. So in the grand scheme of things, you're at a great age at 23. By all means follow your path. That's the number one thing you can do, in my opinion. But don't throw out all interactions with women in the process. You don't need to be an approach machine, but be open to meeting women at least.
/r/seduction05/11/15 09:30 AM
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I agree with your approach. Your entire life shouldn't be about impressing women. Concentrate on being a boss in life and creating a great ecosystem of friends, family etc and a high quality life in general. That said, you're only young. Why not do this AND have as many interactions with women as you can? Over time you will improve. You need many experiences to gain social and emotional intelligence. This takes years, not months. Just see every interaction as getting you more and more attuned to…
/r/seduction05/11/15 08:25 AM
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Well yes, it's true that 'doing what the fuck you want and not giving a fuck what anyone thinks' is attractive. But there are boundaries for that. There are some behaviours/actions that are universally unattractive. For example, if 'doing what the fuck you want' means that you want to stop bathing, and you wear the same clothes for a month, and you take all your clothes off in the middle of the bar and dance around naked because that's what you want to do... ...you're going to struggle with the …
/r/seduction05/11/15 07:42 AM
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AA becomes less severe over time. But you're best just accepting that it's there and will probably always be there. If one day it disappears, that's a bonus. Your only focus should be on doing the right thing, regardless of how you feel. The more often you can do this, the more self respect and self trust you build up (you know you can do the right thing, regardless of which way the wind is blowing). Every time you go to the gym when you're tired, every time you refuse cake because it doesn't fi…
/r/seduction05/11/15 06:34 AM
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30 or 40 numbers and a girlfriend out of 200 approaches isn't a 'low success ratio'. Especially if you're new. If anything, it's excellent. Couple of things: don't get the number, then just leave. Stick around for at least a minute or so after you take her number, otherwise it looks like your only goal was the number. if you're meeting girls in daygame, find out her logistics (ie what is she doing right now) and if she doesn't have somewhere urgent she needs to be, take her on an instant date. H…
/r/seduction05/11/15 06:31 AM
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Many girls have complained to me that all guys they meet are either too shy and quiet, or annoying and overconfident. When I question them what they mean by overconfident, they give a description of the super loud fratboy type. The guy that is fun and funny, but just too loud. Too 'in her face'. He's all fun and party and no substance. He doesn't have a switch that allows him to slow down, be lower energy and connect with her. He's always doing stuff to prove how 'crazy' and 'wild' he is. In sho…
/r/seduction05/11/15 06:26 AM
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Ironically what you are doing IS becoming an alpha male. An alpha male is on his path and does what he thinks is right, not what others tell him is right.
/r/seduction05/11/15 06:17 AM
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The standard PUA response here is 'freezeout'. Punish her for her 'LMR' by ignoring her and go check your email or whatever. While this can work - it hits her insecurities and often makes her want to revalidate herself by sleeping with you, it doesn't hit the bigger picture... ...the reason that she's refusing in the first place. If she's in your bed making out, she likes you and she's attracted to you. If she's attracted to you enough to make out in your bed, she's attracted enough to have sex.…
/r/seduction05/11/15 06:14 AM
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Didn't realise London Ontario was such a popular place. Obviously I'm referring to London, England. Don't you think I would have mentioned if I was talking about a different London?
/r/seduction05/11/15 05:58 AM
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You're making a lot of assumptions about what women in bars want. Women aren't a single entity. Sure, some women in bars want a one night stand. Others want only a relationship. Others are open to whatever comes along. Do you ever connect with these girls? Do you ever talk about deep and meaningful stuff and share who you really are deep down as a man? Do you find out about who they are? Or is it all 'fun time party'? Fun time party is awesome, but tends to lead to more hookups than genuine conn…
/r/seduction04/11/15 06:36 PM
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Way of the Gentleman. I'm not biased, honest.
/r/seduction04/11/15 06:33 PM
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I tell them everything, warts and all. I don't just tell them the stuff that I think they will approve of. Some girls don't like it and I lose them. Some girls do like it. But they all respect me for telling it.
/r/seduction04/11/15 05:12 PM
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Read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3p7kxk/how_to_have_casual_sex_and_threesomes_with_lots/
/r/seduction04/11/15 05:09 PM
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I believe you can get a lavalier mic and hook it up with your smartphone, but you'd have to google that.
/r/seduction04/11/15 05:08 PM
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You have put yourself into the 'provider male' bucket, rather than the 'fun adventurer' bucket. The mere fact you put girls into categories of 'good girls' vs 'sluts' means that girls are not likely to let go and be slutty with you, since they don't want to be judged by you as being a slut. You need to recognise that women want and love sex, but don't love being judged for being sexual. Read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3p7kxk/how_to_have_casual_sex_and_threesomes_with_lots/
/r/seduction04/11/15 05:07 PM
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You give absolutely zero context here. No mention of how well you know the girl or what had happened prior to this. Not even any mention of how she said it? Did she sound excited, nervous, horny, terrified? Nobody can give you any meaningful help here without more details. Guys will act like they know the answer to everything, but they are really just guessing.
/r/seduction04/11/15 05:05 PM
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This kind of question is very trivial in the grand scheme of things. Starting thinking context over content. Let's say she's with Ryan Gosling playing mini golf. Is it going to increase or decrease his chances with her whether he wins or loses? Does it even matter? Let's say she's with a total weirdo awkward dweeb, with sweat stains on the armpits of his 'Computer Expo 1993' t-shirt. Is it going to increase or decrease his chances with her whether he wins or loses? Does it even matter? If you're…
/r/seduction04/11/15 05:00 PM
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Why does it have to be an either/or? You can work on your seductive powers AND build a quality, solid life surrounded by good people.
/r/seduction04/11/15 04:55 PM
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Well that's the point isn't it...I was showing you how easy it is to switch up your intensity levels. At no point did I say 'stare at her with 100% intensity until she melts'. I'm saying play around with that energy. Get used to varying up your intensity. Notice how people respond when you look at them with different intensity levels. It's partly about getting in her personal space, but the eye contact is key. Like every now and then you have these very intense 'slightly too long looks' into eac…
/r/seduction04/11/15 04:51 PM
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Ok, so it's sounds like you're playing too safe in terms of communicating a sexual vibe. If you want more help with this, you're welcome to PM.
/r/seduction04/11/15 04:49 PM
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The fear of many men...being labelled weird or creepy. So they play safe as a result..and end up in the friend zone. Stop playing safe and take more risks. Sure, you may fuck up a few times as you learn where the line is, but it's better than being in friend zone purgatory with every girl.
/r/seduction03/11/15 05:29 PM
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Exactly! Because you and your gf are comfortable with each other and you know you are both safe to express yourselves, you can easily talk about sex. What would it be like if you brought this same attitude into chats with girls that you don't know as well?
/r/seduction03/11/15 05:23 PM
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I have a sexual vibe with girls online all the time...sex comes up naturally in conversation, we joke about it, play around with it, sometimes have a serious chat about it...it's just a conversation topic like any other. Do you ever talk about sex?
/r/seduction03/11/15 05:14 PM
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"You'll never guess what..." invites a response. I would say your vibe needs a tweak though. It's great that you were clearly escalating, but when she says 'oh we went too far', or whatever, you don't need to agree. Why not talk about how she needs her fun now she's come out of a relationship? Why not make it clear that she's completely safe to let go with you, and whatever happens is cool? A lot of the time 'I've just come out of a relationship' is code for 'I want to let go, have fun and get f…
/r/seduction03/11/15 04:45 PM
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It's all well and good for guys to scoff and say 'move on, bro', but if this is happening time and again, we need to look at what's actually going on. If it happens once in 10 times, yes - move on. She's the one with the problem. If it happens 10 times in 10 times, then I'm afraid you're the one with the problem. When you say they really clicked, how did you click? Was there a sexual vibe, or was it more like two friends just chatting? Was it 'jokey jokey' (ie you being dancing monkey)? More det…
/r/seduction03/11/15 04:41 PM
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If she doesn't want to kiss you by date 2, it's a very bad sign. Attraction isn't based on time. It sounds like you're being fun, funny, entertaining and probably charming too - all great qualities. But perhaps you're not being sexual enough. Not creepy sexual, but more of a man who is unashamed of the fact he is a man who has sexual desires. Many guys act all fun and charming and hide their sexual desire for fear of being called out as being 'creepy' (this is a very real fear, for if there's on…
/r/seduction03/11/15 04:06 PM
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So...you say that you're not spouting out a bunch of funny shit to make the girl like you...then you prove it by telling a story where you spouted out a bunch of funny shit. It might not be putting her on a pedestal in the sense of 'oh you're so wonderful and beautiful and amazing and I'd do anything for you', but I would ask again...how challenging were you? Did you find out much about her? Was there anything about her that separated her from the average girls that you normally meet that impres…
/r/seduction03/11/15 03:19 PM
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How challenging are you? How often do you call girls on their bullshit? Do girls ever feel like you could walk away in a second if they don't match up to the standards you require? Most problems guys have with women are a manifestation of one of two things: They are carrying shame around sex and are scared of looking 'creepy' so play safe, never show any sexual intent and stay in the friend zone. They are constantly trying to impress the girl. They never qualify her and she feels like 'he's inte…
/r/seduction03/11/15 09:41 AM
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If you're being genuine - ie you don't like what she's doing and you call it, it's not a facade. It's real. Don't worry if she thinks it's a facade. Just worry about doing the right thing. Always focus on doing what you think is right. How people react is their business, not yours. Basically I see it as being a manifestation of fear of rejection, which we all have. You've pumped yourself up to be this 'otherworldly' mysterious figure that women go crazy for. Because they are always chasing you, …
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:46 AM
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Thanks for your long post...I appreciate that. I'll reply shortly... Why does it have to be a facade? I mean, if I'm talking to a girl and she gives me half assed responses and I call her on it - there's nothing fake there. There's no facade. I'm not angry, but playful. But at the same time I'm calling her to show a highly standard of behaviour and showing I can walk away. But there's no tactic here.
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:37 AM
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I would ask you to look at your mindset. Are you saying tons of funny stuff in the hope that the girl will like you? Usually in these situations, the overall frame is one of the guy spouting out a bunch of cool shit in the hope that the girl will like some of it, and like him as a result. Hence the girl is very much up on the pedestal, and the guy is a beggar man trying to get her approval. How challenging are you? How often do you call her on her bullshit? How much do you required her to invest…
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:18 AM
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The problem you have is you're not setting yourself as the 'fun adventurer' in her mind. I wrote about this in more detail here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3p7kxk/how_to_have_casual_sex_and_threesomes_with_lots/
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:14 AM
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The answer would be a long post in itself, but mainly it's about giving her the feeling that you could walk away at any moment if she shows herself to not be the kind of woman you're looking for. Most women never feel challenged by guys. Instead they feel 'chatted up'. Challenge her more. Call her on her bullshit playfully. Require her to invest. If she gives you a shitty answer, look at her and say, with a cheeky smile 'really? Is that the best you've got?' The way guys normally act when a woma…
/r/seduction03/11/15 07:06 AM
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You can easily just say something like 'thanks, I'm glad you think I'm attractive. Anyway...' Then change subject. But if you just use this line, you're fixing the symptoms and not the cause.
/r/seduction03/11/15 06:45 AM
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Thanks..glad to help!
/r/seduction03/11/15 06:44 AM
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Back in about 2007 I would hear any of the following about 10 times a night: "You're a PLAYER!" "Is that your pickup line?" "I bet you say this to every girl!" On some level it's good in the sense that girls can see that you are a credible sexual candidate (they would never accuse some dork of being a player, after all). However, as the mod rightly suggested, you find yourself fighting an uphill battle for the following reasons: If a girl thinks you are using lines, she thinks you're tryhard. A …
/r/seduction02/11/15 04:56 PM
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No...I haven't even made it yet!
/r/seduction31/10/15 11:16 AM
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So you just edit 'the line' (it's not some magic line, just an example)...'you realise if we continue getting on so well, all kinds of things could happen...?' 'You realise if we continue getting on so well, we'll find ourselves meeting outside of work...?' Unrelated tip - be careful when saying things like 'i think you misunderstood my english'. It doesn't bother me, but generally people will interpret this as there being some problem, and you blaming them for it 'YOU misunderstood me, therefor…
/r/seduction31/10/15 11:15 AM
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Going to the club is generally a bad date. You want to go somewhere quiet where you can talk. Just think of some other scenario, or throw it out there 'you realise if we continue getting on so well like this, we're bound to meet up again, right?' Then when she agrees, set it up.
/r/seduction29/10/15 06:24 PM
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You can do what's called a soft close. That's where you throw out vague plans of doing something sometime 'I bet you're a proper wuss, I'll drink you under the table'...if she responds well 'no chance, I can down sambuca shots with the best of them!' then you go for the hard close - actual day and time 'alright then, let's set this up. How's next Thursday work for you?'
/r/seduction29/10/15 05:42 PM
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Exactly, it was meant to be about the overall feel of non judgemental than just turning into a robot and repeating the lines.
/r/seduction29/10/15 01:01 PM
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I am that guy, yes.
/r/seduction29/10/15 11:54 AM
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Yeah, I got that.
/r/seduction29/10/15 11:10 AM
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This is awesome. We need more action takers on here.
/r/seduction29/10/15 09:45 AM
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I was offering to go on a more in depth chat that might not be relevant to this. If you're going to have that attitude 'fuck PMs', then you're not going to get many people wanting to help you.
/r/seduction29/10/15 08:58 AM
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I think there's a shift every man needs to make from trying to impress/being afraid of losing the girl to just 'being' and genuinely not giving a shit. You get to the point where enough women have liked you and enough women haven't liked you that you just stop worrying about doing the right thing, or 'if I say this, will it put her off', and you do it anyway. And if she runs away, too bad...the next one will like it. Everytime you try to impress a girl, or you fail to say something you want to s…
/r/seduction29/10/15 07:42 AM
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If you even have a 'pickup mode', then something is wrong. It shouldn't be the case that you go about your day normally, then a cute girl appears and you suddenly press a button and become the super pickup master 9000. It's YOU that attracts the girl. Not the pickup tricks. Being charming, confident and masculine are attractive traits. Are these things you just switch on and off when a girl appears? How are you behaving the rest of the time?
/r/seduction29/10/15 07:05 AM
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I think you did just fine - you got her number and you're meeting up. Maybe the guy was jealous that he couldn't do the same? Or maybe he was annoyed that you were obviously picking up chicks when you were meant to be volunteering? Perhaps in future in these circumstances, you can be more subtle. You can just talk to her normally, but whilst making eye contact with a 'we both know there's something more going on under the surface here' vibe. You can actually create a conspiracy vibe, where you a…
/r/seduction29/10/15 06:59 AM
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You don't need a deep voice to get girls (RSD Tyler is proof), but it certainly doesn't harm your chances. There's something more masculine about a rich, deep voice.
/r/seduction29/10/15 06:54 AM
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If you're hearing things like 'awww, well done for approaching, you're so brave'...this is not a good sign. It sounds like they are telling you that they don't see you as a credible sexual partner, but they want to ease the blow by saying something positive. Your experience with the 2 dates that didn't go any further seems to confirm this. It may be that there is some big problem that needs looking at, or it may be a minor tweak in how you are presenting yourself. Feel free to PM if you want to …
/r/seduction29/10/15 06:53 AM
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Good reply. This post was never meant to be a bunch of 'magic lines' to get a girl into bed and I didn't want people to interpret it that way. It was meant to get across the attitudes needed to make a girl feel safe to 'let it all out' with you, and some examples of what could be said in that scenario (because without a framework, it's just another one of those vague 'you can do it too, bro!' posts that everyone upvotes, but nobody gets any real value from). Having read the comments here, I worr…
/r/seduction29/10/15 06:45 AM
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I'm not going to respond to every individual comment, but I do want to make a point based on some of the assumptions made. The 'speeches' above are not magic lines that you say. It's an example of what could be said in that scenario. It's an example of the right attitude, of non-judgmentalism, of showing that you get where the girl is at. I don't want any guy to memorise it all word for word and just parrot it off. You still need to be calibrated to where she's at. If she's not responding well t…
/r/seduction29/10/15 06:40 AM
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It's definitely been a 'marmite' post, that's for sure...
/r/seduction28/10/15 06:27 PM
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Clearly not, since we're saying the same sort of things each time 'I can tell you like a man to be a man'.
/r/seduction28/10/15 02:48 PM
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In the world of sales and marketing, you want to pitch your product in a way that is the most appealing to your potential customer. Now, you could pitch a bunch of lies about a product that doesn't deliver. Or you could market yourself in an honest way (ie if you are a solid, quality man, what's wrong with portraying yourself as one?)
/r/seduction28/10/15 02:41 PM
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To repeat what I said above: The overarching theme of the post is not 'tricking women into bed' (I really don't see how people can interpret it that way), but displaying non judgement in a way that allows her to let out her deepest fantasies with you. It's all well and good to say 'be non judgemental' but guys don't always know how to show that. The girl wants to be able to let this stuff out. The idea is that this is win/win. This isn't some magic trick where you have sex then run away laughing…
/r/seduction28/10/15 02:33 PM
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I agree with the principle of the above, but it's very vague. Sometimes people need specifics. The overarching theme of the post is not 'tricking women into bed' (I really don't see how people can interpret it that way), but displaying non judgement in a way that allows her to let out her deepest fantasies with you. It's all well and good to say 'be non judgemental' but guys don't always know how to show that. The girl wants to be able to let this stuff out. The idea is that this is win/win. Thi…
/r/seduction28/10/15 02:32 PM
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Actually yes, sort of. You either see my value or you don't. It's not my job to try and convince anyone. But the point of this is that it's seamless. If I'm getting to this point with a girl, she already likes me. This just makes her more comfortable.
/r/seduction28/10/15 01:58 PM
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Well I'm not going to argue. You can never convince a cynic.
/r/seduction28/10/15 01:47 PM
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Exactly. Mills and Boon style books sell in the millions. Just because we men think this kind of languaging is lame, we forget that women love it.
/r/seduction28/10/15 01:42 PM
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How assertive are you? How much do you stand up for yourself? How willing are you to say 'no'? If you let everyone walk all over you, you are by default the runt of the litter. Unfortunately, it sounds like this is what's happening here.
/r/seduction28/10/15 01:30 PM
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Physical escalation works to get a girl into bed, but it doesn't necessarily make her feel mentally safe. It doesn't make her feel 'this guy isn't going to judge me', or 'I can let out all my fantasies with this guy'. This is really the point of this. It's not just to get you laid. It's for girls that you want to experiment with. Have crazy sex with. Threesome. Swingers clubs. Risky sex. S&M. Whatever. It's not really intended so much for a one nighter you pull from the club. Your understanding …
/r/seduction28/10/15 01:26 PM
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I'm not really interested in pandering to every armchair critic. If someone has genuine well thought out questions or points to raise, it's a different matter. If someone just sits there and claims 'this could never work' or similar, without having any real world experience to offer, then I'm not really willing to engage. This is what I do with women. It works. If you like it and can see the value, great. If not, also great.
/r/seduction28/10/15 01:02 PM
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So move on to something more interesting. I'm not forcing you to read it. Plenty of guys have asked the same question 'how do I introduce sex into conversation?', so maybe it's not as '101' as you think it is. Social proof was not mentioned in this post either. Escalation is normally seen as being physical rather than verbal. The concept of her emotional safety is rarely mentioned either.
/r/seduction28/10/15 12:57 PM
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Strange. If you pm me your email I'll add you manually.
/r/seduction28/10/15 12:52 PM
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If you want to buy any of my products, you're welcome. If you just want the free stuff, you're welcome. I think it's completely fair. I give you a value add post that you can actually use and tell you that if you want more detail, you can get the product.
/r/seduction28/10/15 12:49 PM
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Here's the thing, you didn't give any constructive criticism, any reasoning or any better examples. Just 'lame and cliched' like it's fact. I do this stuff all the time. It works. Do you?
/r/seduction28/10/15 12:47 PM
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Looking forward to reading your detailed and expert post on the subject.
/r/seduction28/10/15 12:32 PM
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If you get to this point with her, she'll be receptive to the next bit. You just have to take the leap. I recommend downloading Tinder and practicing with a few girls on there. That way, if they get offended and block you, you can move on to the next one. But really...you have to get used to making the leap. Yes...you may get rejected. But this is life! In reality, even if the girl doesn't like it, which sometimes happens, she'll usually not be angry, she'll be more like 'that's not for me, but …
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:55 AM
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Why does it have to be one or the other?
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:46 AM
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Thanks brother.
/r/seduction28/10/15 11:05 AM
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It doesn't matter where I put it - I still need an easy mechanism of notifying everyone.
/r/seduction28/10/15 10:47 AM
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See (edited) post above.
/r/seduction28/10/15 09:58 AM
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See (edited) post above.
/r/seduction28/10/15 09:58 AM
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It basically means 'interests you'.
/r/seduction28/10/15 09:15 AM
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Soon I will post a video of me doing this on Tinder/Whatsapp so you can see how quickly you can escalate, right from the initial hello. Reply to this comment if this interests you. If you want to be notified, send a blank email to: [email protected] Yes, I know this is an email list, but I won't send you a bunch of marketing crap. This is just so I can send one easy email to everyone who's interested when the video is ready. You'll get a confirmation email and you'll need to click the lin…
/r/seduction28/10/15 09:15 AM
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Usually 'being reserved' is just a synonym for 'I don't feel safe enough to show my true self to the world'. Bitchy girls are often the same. They put on this big front because they don't want to let their real self out. I think RSD Tyler came up with the image of 'do you think she's bitchy/reserved on Xmas day when she's opening her presents with her family, or is she like an excited little girl?' We all have a conversative side and an adventurous side. You need to be the strong, non-judgementa…
/r/seduction28/10/15 08:20 AM
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It just sounds like you're being tryhard - you identified this yourself. CALM DOWN. You don't need to run 'attraction material' every 2 minutes to keep her interested. If she's attracted, she's attracted. You're a strong, confident man. You don't need to do a bunch of shit to keep on generating attraction. You want to focus more on creating a safe, protective frame..a space where she feels totally comfortable and non-judged with you. Where you are the solid oak tree, as opposed to all the insecu…
/r/seduction28/10/15 08:17 AM
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There's nothing wrong with approaching girls at the gym, but you have to do it in an intelligent way. It's not like approaching girls in a bar, where it's a 'one shot deal' (ie if you don't get a number or take her home there and then, you're unlikely to see her again). I very rarely go direct in the gym. You don't want to become the guy who's asked everyone out and all the girls go 'there's that desperate guy'. Here's some ways I open: On Saturday just gone a girl was using the lat pulldown mac…
/r/seduction28/10/15 08:14 AM
1

It's not necessarily a bad thing to be called 'old fashioned'. I'm traditional in the sense of a masculine man who takes the lead. I'm non-traditional in the sense of I'm not taking the girl on 5 dates before she 'gives' me a peck of the cheek. I'm the lover, not the provider. Be careful not to put yourself into the frame where you are taking her on nice dates in an attempt to win her over. When she sees you as the fun lover, she'll fuck you right away and do all sorts with you. You can convert …
/r/seduction28/10/15 07:54 AM
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That was my post you're referring to. I started typing a long reply, then I thought that a lot more people would benefit from it, so I started a new thread. Any questions, post them in there. It's called 'How to take a girl from polite chat to super horny in less than 1 hour': https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3qj7xc/how_to_take_a_girl_from_polite_chat_to_super/
/r/seduction28/10/15 07:48 AM
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Ok...what's your friend's status with this girl? If they are best friends, could he arrange for the two of you to go out and bump into her again? I don't like the idea of tracking her down on instagram. It can work, yes...but more likely is she'll go to your mutual friend and say 'your friend randomly started talking to me on insta...what's the deal?'
/r/seduction28/10/15 07:01 AM
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Does he know her already or is she just a random? You need to be careful with tracking girls down online. They get this a lot, and the guys are very often creepy and weird as fuck. Even if you're not, it's likely she'll assume you are, and you'll have to work very hard to change her mind.
/r/seduction27/10/15 06:47 PM
2

Ha.. all part of the service.
/r/seduction27/10/15 06:46 PM
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The number of threads where guys pick out some trait about themselves they cannot change. Here's a list of things I've seen, off the top of my head: height ethnicity too fat too skinny wealth (or lack of) social class walking with a limp And now...a funny eye. It's all bullshit. Time to get away from your story of why you can't succeed and just go and do it.
/r/seduction27/10/15 05:37 PM
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If you've never done it, it probably WILL be awkward. Too bad. Accept things like approach anxiety, awkwardness and generally feeling like a fool and it gets much easier - if you try to battle these things or wait for them to not exist, you'll be waiting a long time.
/r/seduction27/10/15 05:34 PM
1

Maybe she's busy at weekends? Or she likes to go out with the girls? Or get railed senseless by her other 10 boyfriends? Why not just ask her?
/r/seduction27/10/15 05:32 PM
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If you've done well before this, it might just be one of those weird coincidences that happen from time to time. Recently I had a couple of weeks where EVERY number I got flaked, despite me doing nothing different to normal. Then this weekend went back and we're back to normal. There's always an element of randomness that can't be explained.
/r/seduction27/10/15 05:32 PM
1

Again, what kind of texts though? What are you saying and how is she responding?
/r/seduction26/10/15 07:14 PM
1

Well what happens when you text? You have to give a little more than that.
/r/seduction26/10/15 06:27 PM
1

I agree. Guys often think that every moment in set has to be super amazingly hilarious or fascinating. In reality, in a normal set, there are times when it's awkward, or boring, or quiet or you're not talking and others in the group are holding court. Just stay in there.
/r/seduction26/10/15 06:26 PM
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She's interested, she said as much. But I feel you didn't listen to a word I said.
/r/seduction26/10/15 06:25 PM
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Most guys will say 'don't message her again, you don't want to look needy!!' I would say fuck that, and just find out what's going on, for your own information. In some ways, it's more needy to not message her again. Think of it like this - if you'd arrange to meet your best guy friend and he agreed, then you suggested today...and he disappeared, would you think 'omg, he's not interested, he doesn't like me', or would you just assume that he saw your message and was busy and forgot to reply? Wou…
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:53 PM
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I know why you would say this, but I respectfully disagree. It's all in your vibe and tone. You can say excuse me like a little bitch, or you can say it in an assertive, strong manner.
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:37 PM
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What's 'wrong' with excuse me? When people give you this advice, you have to find out why. There's nothing with saying 'excuse me'. It's the energy and the vibe that you come to the table with that are more important.
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:36 PM
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You need to improve your calibration so that you know when a girl likes you or not, and how people in general are responding to what you do. Start not just focusing on what you do and say, but really paying attention to how people react to you when you speak. Are they enjoying it? Bored? Uncomfortable? Irritated? Fascinated? A lot of this comes from massive social experience, but you also have to commit to paying attention to this in order to learn it. Over time you start to recognise patterns '…
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:30 PM
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You're thinking too much. Why do you need to make eye contact ALL THE TIME?
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:21 PM
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You can either play her game, or invite her out of the games. "I don't play all these hard to get bullshit games. We're either direct and straight with each other, or you can find another guy." She has to know, beyond any doubt, that you are willing to walk if she doesn't display herself to be the kind of girl you want in your life. Essentially this is part of what makes women chase - that feeling of 'I'm not sure if I have him, I'm not sure if he's interested, I need to win him over'. Enforcing…
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:20 PM
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First of all, read this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3p7kxk/how_to_have_casual_sex_and_threesomes_with_lots/ It's all about how to frame yourself as the 'fun adventurer' type rather than the 'provider male'. Women want to have sex. But they don't want repercussions. As you are now, the women are scared you'll fall in love with them after having sex and now she is responsible for breaking your heart if she doesn't want to marry you. That's a lot of pressure for a woman. It's …
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:16 PM
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First of all, calibration...don't just blithely grope. Touch and see how she reacts - if she flinches, looks uncomfortable or steps back, she's telling you she's not ready - YET. But what are you actually doing? Are there specific touches you are doing that are upsetting them? Or do you just have your hands all over the women and you're in their personal space the entire date?
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:11 PM
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This doesn't sound like a problem with you needing to be more direct with suggesting a venue. I mean, if this was George Clooney messaging her and he just put out vague plans of meeting, do you think that she would just disappear, or do you think that she'd be chasing him down trying to tie him down to an exact place/time? Context over content - the context here is that the women like you, but not quite enough to meet you. Usually this is because they have many options, and you're interesting en…
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:09 PM
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Generally flakes aren't due to a lack of attraction (except in cases where she gave you her number to be polite and get rid of you, and now she's replying to be polite). But mostly she's interested in you enough...it's a lack of comfort and safety that's the problem. If there's zero emotional connection, she thinks 'I don't know anything about this guy' and then worries about whether the date will be weird/awkward/boring She may have physical safety issues - does she know that she can trust you …
/r/seduction26/10/15 05:03 PM
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Do you actually enjoy talking to women? I really enjoy it - the teasing, the playing, the bits where we suddenly get serious and connect on all kinds of stuff. I probably enjoy just being with women more than I enjoy the sex.
/r/seduction26/10/15 04:56 PM
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A fair few others got a lot out of this blog post I wrote last week... http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/ Let me know any questions you have.
/r/seduction26/10/15 04:54 PM
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If I gave her a nickname like 'bad girl' or 'good girl' or 'miss mysterious' or whatever... 'hey miss mysterious ;)' I never actually tell them who I am. I let them work it out from what I say. I give them a little clue based on the chat we had. It's a bit more fun than just 'hi it's Richard'. If she says 'who's this'... 'How many guys have you given your number to today?! Omg!!' You can have fun here, tease and play around.
/r/seduction26/10/15 04:53 PM
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Thanks for that. Before I get into delving deeper on the above, I want you to watch this 12 minute video that I uploaded just now. This is my 'statement -> deeper probing question' model to rapport, and the 4 types of statements you can use. The 4th in particular is very subtle and shows 'this guy gets it'. Watch it first, and let me know your thoughts. This is how I connect with girls, and get them telling me all kinds of deep stuff, often within minutes of meeting. https://www.youtube.com/watc…
/r/seduction25/10/15 05:51 PM
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Yes, that's me... You can do both at once. You never stop working on yourself and improving, because there is no point where there is nothing left to learn. So you might as well approach as much as you can now AND commit to improving yourself too.
/r/seduction24/10/15 03:37 PM
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There's a difference between a shit test when you first meet a girl and she doesn't know if you're the man you're displaying yourself as: "Did you REALLY come out in that shirt???" and genuinely stepping over your boundary lines. The first example is playful, it's fun. It's a test to see whether you are emotionally affected. But if a girl is doing shit like flirting with other dudes in front of your face AFTER 4 MONTHS of being with you, this is no longer a shit test, this is plain and simple di…
/r/seduction24/10/15 03:35 PM
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Right, but that's not the point I was making.
/r/seduction24/10/15 12:09 PM
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Ok...but being you and putting yourself out there is something that is a way of life with EVERYONE you meet. It's not just something you turn on and off with girls.
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:43 AM
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LIVE COACHING THREAD: PLEASE ONLY KER86 REPLY TO THIS COMMENT So, KER86. First of all, congrats on being chosen. I picked you because you were one of 7 responses I had which boiled down to having a hard time connecting with women. In your initial responses to me, I felt that you were very open and willing to go deeper, which is exactly what I asked for - and why you were chosen. So let me start by asking you - I know you mentioned your problem in the previous thread, but can you explain again th…
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:40 AM
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We have a winner! I'll PM you to explain what happens next and I'll start a new 'live coaching' thread. Well done!
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:29 AM
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This is a tricky one. I'm not religious myself, but I do respect how you know who you are, what you want and what you stand for - which is a primary tenet of what I teach. Although that said, it sounds like there is still some work for you to do here if you struggle to express yourself in certain situations and are afraid to be vulnerable. You may have to accept that there is a smaller pool of women who fall into the category of what you are looking for.
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:26 AM
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The human ego loves to feel like a victim and that life 'isn't fair'. It loves to create thoughts like 'why could I have been born 6 foot 3 and jacked?' You're lucky. Being a shorter guy gives you the motivation to really learn these social skills properly and really make yourself solid as fuck. The big tall jacked guy rarely does this because he gets results without much effort...so he is actually often a shell of a man. Looks good on the outside, but has little underneath. You're building real…
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:24 AM
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No worries. Keep me posted how you get on. You're welcome to PM.
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:15 AM
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Yep, that's me alright. What has stopped you putting yourself out there recently? You should be putting yourself out there in every situation, not just with girls.
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:14 AM
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Figure out who you are as a man. Figure out what you stand for in this world. Put yourself out there, warts and all and know that some people will love you and some will hate you. Don't try to convince anyone to be on your team.
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:14 AM
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FA? Well you've proven that girls like you in spite of your limp, since you've been with attractive girls before. Guys love to take things they can't change - height, ethnicity, facial features and make that the reason they can't get girls. This is your ego's way of protecting you. The ego loves to play the victim and say 'it's not fair! I wasn't born perfect looking, 6 foot 3 and jacked!' The ego hates to admit 'actually, I could work on my personality and character in order to become more attr…
/r/seduction24/10/15 10:13 AM
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Wow, that was a long read. Can only imagine how long it took to type. The key thing I took from that is you're not currently comfortable to put yourself out there. The main principle of what I teach is that you figure out who you are, where you are going and what you stand for in this world. What you want in your life, and what you don't. Then you put this out in to the world. Some people will be on your team and some won't. Some people you won't want on your team. Too many guys have this attitu…
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:31 AM
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What do your interactions with the girls you are 'friendly' with right now look like?
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:24 AM
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Sounds like you're struggling to connect...either that or you're in 'nice guy friend zone' mode. Watch this video on this blog post and tell me if it resonates or not: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:23 AM
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Do you ever go deeper than surface level 'nice' conversations?
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:23 AM
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That's not really what I'm offering in this thread, and it would take longer than 3 weeks. But you can PM me if you like.
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:22 AM
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It sounds like the frame of the interaction is one of you being a dancing monkey...you're constantly making her laugh. But often this is equivalent to the girl watching Comedy Central - she's laughing along and enjoying it, but she's not investing anything in the interaction. How challenging are you? How often do you call her on her bullshit? How much are you qualifying her?
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:21 AM
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This is a deeper subject than me saying 'follow these 9 steps', but the fact you feel you need to 'create attraction' is probably fucking your head up. It's not your job to be a performing seal in order to impress her, then for her to decide whether it's good enough. It's your job to put yourself out there warts and all, and see whether you connect with her. Find out if you want her on your team or not. Get away from this mentality of trying to impress the girl. It puts her up on a pedestal befo…
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:18 AM
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Yeah, most guys your are aren't gonna want to settle down. I don't really coach women that much, but I might branch out that way sometime.
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:17 AM
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My advice, and I don't know if this will work... ...next time you're with a girl who you trust, who you're going to have sex with...just tell her. The problem you have now is that you want to be seen as this sex god (like we all do) and you have this massive fear when you get in the bedroom 'oh fuck, I hope this doesn't happen again and she finds out the truth'. If you tell her the truth up front, there is nothing to be scared of anymore. When you shine light on darkness, the darkness no longer …
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:16 AM
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Yes, I'm going to do a video on how to connect better, because I think this is a common issue. Oh and I realise I replied to the wrong post yesterday - I meant to reply to you.
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:10 AM
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Ok, I wanted to see if you were overvaluing physical appearance. I would say the same regardless - the higher you value something, the more you are likely to 'grasp' at it. You can cup water and hold it in your hand, but what happens if you try to grab tightly to it? When you get into these scenarios, you accept that yes the girl is rare. But you pull yourself back into line and stick with the principles of 'I will show myself, warts and all...and people are free to join my Team or not, as they …
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:09 AM
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Read this blog post (and watch the vid), it should help: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/
/r/seduction23/10/15 11:06 AM
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I think a lot of guys have this problem. They can banter and joke around with girls, but never share anything real.
/r/seduction22/10/15 06:07 PM
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Maximise, then forget. Get in as good shape as you can, get a haircut that suits you, find clothes that suit you. Then forget about it.
/r/seduction22/10/15 06:07 PM
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Again, you're not incapable, you're just fine. You think you're incapable. The mind can be a hall of mirrors sometimes.
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:54 PM
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Also you bluff in poker to make it seem like you have a great hand. But in the game, if you think you have two Aces, often you really do! The hand you think you are holding is the hand other people think you are holding and it's the one you really are holding (after all, value is subjective). At the moment, you think you have a shitty hand, you act like you have a shitty hand, so others think you have a shitty hand.
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:50 PM
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You can get thicker insoles if you like. Maybe 5.6 can become 5.7. Do you really think that extra inch makes any difference? I'd have to talk to you a lot more about the sexual stuff. Usually it comes from wanting to be some kind of sex god, instead of just accepting that sometimes you are and sometimes you're not. Also, if you're masturbating to internet porn, I would cut that shit out. It really screws up your mind in relation to real women. Your mind thinks you are fucking hot porn stars ever…
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:46 PM
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This is a common one. You're turning into a totally different person when you're meeting these people and you probably don't even realise it.
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:44 PM
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A woman's looks is only one part of her value. Sure, we all want a super hot girl. Would you rather end up with an 8 that you find very attractive, who is smart, funny, loyal, hot as fuck in bed, passionate about her path in life, a great mother to your kids, inspires you and makes you feel like a total boss and most amazing man in the world... ...or would you rather have the 10 on your arm who is boring as shit, depressed, coke addict, no real hobbies or interests beyond taking selfies and gett…
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:43 PM
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Sounds like you're struggling to make any kind of connection. If you just go up and make her laugh and you get the number, when she sees her phone next day, she thinks 'I don't know anything about this guy' and tends to ignore you. Whereas if you do just a bit of connection building she's much more likely to reply.
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:39 PM
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To use a poker analogy, we all have been given a certain starting hand with regards to our genetics. Some guys get dealt 2 Aces. These are the naturally big and buff 6'4 James Bond lookalikes. Others are dealt the 2 of clubs and 7 of spades, the shittiest hand in poker. These are the guys with no arms and no legs who struggle to do anything. The rest of us are somewhere in between. Some of us have decent hands, some not so good. Play your hand as well as you can and don't ever complain about it.…
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:38 PM
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16 months is a good amount of time, but still not that long. I put in 2 solid years before I saw consistent results. It's now 10 years and I have a 4 year relationship in that, and a bunch of other experiences. Keep on plugging away. One problem I had was that I just became better at game - as in more charming, more funny, more smooth...but never became better at digging into a person and finding out about THEM. What makes the girl tick? What makes her light up? What does she hate? Where does sh…
/r/seduction22/10/15 05:33 PM
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I would need to delve deeper, but your languaging here tells a story. You want to 'get' numbers. You would just 'fail'. I never see myself as 'getting' a number, like I've just won a prize, and I never see myself as 'failing', like I've lost. Every time I go out, there are girls I like and don't like. There are girls who like me and don't like me. There is no winning and losing. There is no failure. Only different levels of compatibility. The worst that ever happens is a girl ignores me. I never…
/r/seduction22/10/15 04:28 PM
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Couldn't say for sure at this juncture, but I suspect you are in a mental hall of mirrors. Just labelling them HB10s gives them a mythical unicorn type quality which they aren't warranted. They are women, just like 7s and 8s are. I would suspect that without realising it, you are acting just slightly differently with the 10s. Overextending. Trying just a little harder than you would with the 7s. Feeling scarcity 'wow, here's a 10, I might not see another one in 3 months'. Whereas you know in any…
/r/seduction22/10/15 04:26 PM
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Are you afraid of looking weird or creepy? I think this is quite common.
/r/seduction22/10/15 04:24 PM
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You remind me of a guy I'm coaching right now who is (well was) afraid of looking 'creepy'. This caused him to hang back and act more like a friend than a lover. Guess what, he got friendzoned constantly. But you do need to get away from a place where you're trying to impress women and get to a place where you know who you are and what you have to offer. Then you put that out to the world and you know that some people will get it and some won't. Your only goal is to find out if you and a girl ar…
/r/seduction22/10/15 04:24 PM
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Good job on getting my attention. Winner will be announced in due course...
/r/seduction22/10/15 04:22 PM
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I earn quite a lot of money these days (I'm not rich by any means but I'm fully provided for and then some). I drive a nice car and have some of the external trappings of success. Firstly, it's made zero difference in terms of attraction. Secondly, women just don't put my in the provider bucket because I don't act like a provider. I act like the 'fun adventurer'. Have you read this post that I wrote a few days ago? It proved pretty popular: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3p7kxk/how_…
/r/seduction22/10/15 04:21 PM
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I'd need to go deeper, but from first glance, it sounds like your issue is that you don't know how to go beyond surface level connections with people. So you just have, like you say, 'bs conversations' about the weather, or 'how's it going', without ever hitting on anything real about the person in front of you. This in itself leads to you meeting boring girls. It's not that they are necessarily boring, it's just that you're not skilled enough yet in knowing how to dig for the things within them…
/r/seduction22/10/15 07:52 AM
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When you say it was a complete disaster, what actually happened?
/r/seduction22/10/15 07:36 AM
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You're welcome, I love doing this kind of thing.
/r/seduction22/10/15 07:29 AM
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I'll come back to you on your issue in due course (this isn't an AMA thread, although I may do one if the demand exists). I'll see what other guys submit. My only issue with selecting you is that your family is rich...I'm not sure how many other guys on here are like 'I have lots of money and can't get girls'. What I do like about your situation is that you're rich and good looking and you're struggling. That throws a dagger in the heart of all the guys who think it's all about looks and money. …
/r/seduction22/10/15 07:23 AM
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Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I like to see that people are getting value from the stuff I post.
/r/seduction22/10/15 07:21 AM
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Who says she isn't interested? To me, you haven't really done a lot to try and see her again. She may just be trying to make you jealous.
/r/seduction22/10/15 07:00 AM
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Oh man...there are so many things wrong with your mindset that you're fucked before you even start. If you're in a place where you're thinking 'how can I get this one girl to like me?', you've put her on a pedestal and you're now trying to do whatever it takes to convince her that you are somehow worthy of her perfect princessy time and attention. Just being in this frame of mind will make you come across as needy. You need to be in a place where you know who you are, you know your own value as …
/r/seduction22/10/15 06:59 AM
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I would disagree on your dinner date assertion. You can still touch her hand and look at her nails. You can still look deeply in her eyes with an air of 'I know what you want right now, and you know what I want' whilst you talk about something else. That feeling of 'there's another story going on right now between us under the surface, and we both know it' is very powerful - and a lot of fun too. Go for dinner. Do the above stuff. If you can't kino or escalate, don't see it as a bad thing. See i…
/r/seduction22/10/15 06:41 AM
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Ok, good answers there. More questions: Do you find that women are initially attracted, but seem to place you in the 'friend' bucket the longer they spend with you? (a client of mine recently had this exact problem. Turned out he was playing too safe. He was scared of coming off over sexual and creepy, and effectively put himself in the friend bucket without realising it). Do you have a problem escalating because you think you might look creepy/weird/sex pest? Or do you think that you're taking …
/r/seduction22/10/15 06:39 AM
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That's quite an assumption. Why not just do it and see what happens?
/r/seduction22/10/15 06:33 AM
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I see no issues here. Proceed as we discussed. She sounds very into you and you just need to allow it to happen. I would like you to adopt more of a challenging mindset. Not in terms of being a dick, but is this girl as a person what you want? Do you like her as a human being? What traits does she have that set her aside from other girls? You don't need to answer that now, but this is the attitude you want when you're getting to know a girl. You absolutely do not want to be trying to spout out a…
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:44 PM
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Ok... Take a step back and look at the big picture. Do you think she is sat there thinking 'if I don't at least get a kiss in soon, I may lose him'? If not, why not? The main question is do you have a lover vibe (like does it feel sexual between you, even though nothing has happened) or more of a friend vibe (it's more polite and there's a bit of a distance)? Girls tend to see you as a pussy if you've had the opportunity to make a move and not taken that opportunity. You haven't had the opportun…
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:32 PM
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That's good. She's chasing you. Let her. Just go along and enjoy it. Carry on doing exactly what you're doing, and don't try to overplan it. You may be able to organise the logistics to make it happen on Thursday, or not. But either way it will happen if you carry on this trajectory, so you don't have to think 'fuck I could get laid!!!!!', and try to make it happen NOW. Sometimes when we do that, we end up trying too hard and losing the girl. If you cup your hands, you can hold water. But what h…
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:13 PM
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You haven't said anything about the level of history between you and this girl. Is it a first date? Just go out and have fun with her and her friends. Don't worry about the 'f-close'. Is that the only point of spending time with a girl, or can you actually just enjoy being with her in the moment?
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:08 PM
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There's more than one way to do this, but one good way is to walk past her and talk to her as you look back as you continue walking. Almost as if you just offhandedly noticed she was cute as you passed by, and wanted to comment on it.
/r/seduction21/10/15 05:07 PM
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Ok...first read this post I wrote a couple of days ago on here: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3p7kxk/how_to_have_casual_sex_and_threesomes_with_lots/ And come back and tell me what you think. When you frame yourself as the fun adventurer you bypass the need for muscles, money etc.
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:34 AM
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Why have you waited 3 days? Let me guess, in order to not seem needy, right? Neediness comes from who you are, rather than specific actions. If you came across as a solid, non-needy guy on your date, texting her next day won't suddenly seem needy. Don't worry so much about employing the perfect tactics and instead think about being the kind of man that women fantasise about. The strong man who they can respect.
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:32 AM
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There's a balance. Old school pickup got you out there, talking to girls and having something to say. I got more girls than I got previously doing this. This improved my confidence, social skills and emotional intelligence. However, in another way I lost confidence, because every time I went out, I would put on my 'pickup mask' and act in the way I was told to in order to get girls. Stand correctly, say the right things, do 'alpha' behaviours. That may have worked, but subconsciously I was telli…
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:30 AM
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Funny you mention the fear of being a creep. I must have worked with 3 guys in the last month who have that exact same fear. I think society is planting shame into men for being men. For being masculine. For having sexual desire, and God forbid, actually wanting to have sex with women. Many of us guys have this fear of being labeled a creep. This often manifests itself in us playing too safe and not letting out our sexual side. I went into more detail on this in a video recently, but the key is …
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:27 AM
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I come on here to help 'former versions of myself'. I would have loved to have someone of my current age (35) and experience when I was in my 20s to be able to help me navigate the tricky waters of dating and self actualisation. I am aware how big headed that sounds...but I've spent 10 years going from robotic pickup routines to being natural and it being more focused on being comfortable with myself, and I find I see the same problems coming up time and time again. The motivation was always sim…
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:09 AM
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Ideally, but really the opener makes very little difference. My stock opener is 'hi' or 'hey'. Think of it in big picture terms - does she see an attractive, solid man in front of her, or a weirdo with creepy energy? That's what is important, not your opener. Guys get obsessed over details and tend to miss the big picture.
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:04 AM
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It's not a shit test. She just doesn't respect him.
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:02 AM
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If you've been with a girl for 4 months and she's doing this shit, it's disrespectful. It's not a 'shit test'. It's not your chance to prove how unreactive you are. At some point, if you're actually with each other (assuming you're in a monogamous relationship), you should show each other respect. Don't do anything that could cause the other person to feel jealous. After all, if you were tweeting about hot girls in the same manner and she saw it, how would she react? Would her girl friends give …
/r/seduction21/10/15 08:01 AM
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'Game' isn't this magical thing you turn on and off. It's YOU. It's who you are as a man that attracts a woman, not the clever little gamey tricks you run on her. If you've learned from your last experience, you should be a better, stronger man now - in other words, more attractive than you were 6 months ago. Also, I don't see anything in your post about what you want in a girl. How much are you thinking about whether you like her or not? Whether she fits the character based requirements you hav…
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:58 AM
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Hang out with her and her friends. Have fun and don't try to pick her up. If you're cool, you'll end up getting with her friends instead. One of two things will happen from doing this - either she's serious, in which case she'll be happy for you to get with her friends, or she's playing games with you, in which case this will make her quickly change tactic.
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:54 AM
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Being quiet is not necessarily a bad thing. For some reason, being super loud and overly extoverted is celebrated in this society as a sign of confidence. But in reality, people who are too loud are really annoying. They never give anyone else a chance to shine in conversation and it's all 'me me me'. If you're quiet, and that's congruent to who you are as a person rather than being shyness, then there's nothing wrong with that. I'm on the louder side of the scale, but my best friend is more int…
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:50 AM
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This post encapsulates why you are struggling with women. It's very much "I'm offering nothing, but I want you to give me something." You haven't posted anything about yourself, any interesting information...you've just demanded that we convince you to learn seduction, like it makes any difference to us? Why would anyone here care if you learn seduction or not? Either you want to get better with girls or you don't. This is your life - nobody else cares about your success with women. So many guys…
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:44 AM
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What I always say is that I put myself out there, warts and all. This is me. You either get it or you don't. You're either on Team Richard or you're not. Some women are down for that, and some are not (most are not, in fairness). But that's fine. You just carry on being you, instead of trying to turn into some kind of social chameleon to please others. Do whatever you want to do. Say whatever you want to say. But don't change any of your behaviours because this girl 'rejected' you. And can you e…
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:40 AM
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I can remember have a similar conversation when I was 25 with myself to the one you're having now. 'I'm in decent shape, not bad looking, have a good job, can make girls laugh, I've been travelling, I play guitar, I'm caring, I'm loyal.. ...so why the fuck don't these chicks like me!??!?' The one thing in common with all of the above is that they are logical things. Attraction as you know is not logical, it's emotional. On a deep level, whether a woman realises it or not, when she meets you she …
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:36 AM
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Your identity is a fluid thing and there's no need to get attached to any one image of 'this is me as a person'. As people we all have an adventurous side and a more conservative side. When you go travelling alone, you have to overcome some fears and there's a part of you that feels like a brave pirate, sailing the high seas in search of gold. This brings out your adventurous side, which girls respond better to in terms of sexual encounters, etc. It also makes you more of a leader, because you'r…
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:28 AM
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One very common (and understandable) mindset of guys is 'I will approach once I've conquered approach anxiety'. How would your thought processes change if you were to accept that you will always have approach anxiety? I've been doing this shit for 10 years and I still experience approach anxiety. Admittedly it's not the same as it used to be (it used to be borderline terror and now is more like a hesitation, a laziness), but it's still there. A more empowering question is not 'how do I overcome …
/r/seduction21/10/15 07:23 AM
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This is something I go into detail about in the product I mentioned (it's a bit too long for Reddit), but essentially I go through what I call a 'compliance ladder'. I start with something simple like 'I can tell you like a man to be a man, right?' If she agrees to that, which she will, I then go up to the next level, 'and I bet you like a man to take charge. Not necessarily in an overly aggressive or dictatorial kind of way, but in a 'I drive the car by default' kind of way. Like he just gets t…
/r/seduction21/10/15 06:52 AM
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That's a common thing - guys touch girls for the purpose of touching them and you see them standing there with their hand on the girl's shoulder for ages and it looks awkward and weird. The things I suggested provide good excuses for a touch. Remember, she likes you and wants you to touch her (usually). So it's not like you're being manipulative. You're just making things more smooth. If you use the framework I gave you, you'll get used to it and more comfortable as you practice it. Then over ti…
/r/seduction20/10/15 03:16 PM
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In general, girls want to be led. Often, if they like you, they will put themselves in your vicinity and wait for you to approach. Sometimes if you're lucky, they will approach you. But you have to then take the baton at this point and run with it. You have to lead the way. Dance with her. Look her deeply in the eyes. I made a video recently about how eye contact makes all the difference when it comes to being seen as a friend vs a lover. And as some of the guys said. Don't ask for permission fo…
/r/seduction20/10/15 01:39 PM
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Haha, I get around ;) Thanks for the big up.
/r/seduction20/10/15 09:55 AM
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Great! There's no pay and you'll be required to work 60 hours a week. When can you start?
/r/seduction20/10/15 09:16 AM
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That's not uncommon. The fear of looking stupid has a lot of people acting aloof, like they are 'too cool for school'. Women do this a lot too. Often the girl labelled as the bitchy chick is just socially anxious and is acting cool as a protection mechanism. It's maybe outside the scope of a single reddit post to fix this issue for you (you can PM me if you like), but what I recommend is to take the focus off yourself. Understand that nearly all people have some level of social anxiety. That's w…
/r/seduction20/10/15 08:09 AM
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That's a very odd sounding interaction. What was the context of you calling her Asian? Why was she so offended? If the girl screamed 'fuck you' at me, I'd be unlikely to become all reactive and scream 'fuck you' in return. Instead, think about why she is screaming at you. Is it a misunderstanding? Is she overly emotional? Is it something else? Maybe she was drunk. Maybe her dad had died yesterday. Maybe she's just a crazy girl who gets upset at nothing. This is 1 woman out of 3.5 BILLION. Are yo…
/r/seduction20/10/15 07:34 AM
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I always like to comment on these things. "You're talking about kissing already? Take it easy, we only just met!" Or on the sex toy shop thing...I might just look at her seriously, with a twinkle in my eye and say... "Alright then. I'm game if you are. That's unless you're all talk?" If she says yes, actually go and do it. Why not? If she says she was only kidding, bust on her for giving it the big talk but not being able to deliver. Have fun with this stuff! Play around with her. Tease her. So …
/r/seduction20/10/15 07:31 AM
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2 questions: Are women normally attracted to you, or do they tend to see you more as a friend than a lover? If they are attracted to you, do you just have a problem escalating? (ie knowing how and when to touch them, kiss them, etc)
/r/seduction20/10/15 07:27 AM
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Nothing wrong with a good rant. I love it when people wake up and realise 'things have got to change'. Too many people blame everyone else for all the failing in their life. You're stepping up and taking responsibility. That in itself is to be commended. However, you don't really seem to ask any questions. Did you want help? Is there any specific areas you feel you can improve? It sounds like you need some help with boundaries, for one.
/r/seduction20/10/15 07:12 AM
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It's not impossible, but it's really really hard to turn that around. You bring up the idea of a 3some and you're basically saying to her 'you're not enough for me anymore'.
/r/seduction20/10/15 07:10 AM
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Here's something you can try. I can't guarantee this will work, since I'm more used to advising men on their interactions with women than vice versa. Dress in something really sexy next time you see him. When you see him, say 'I've decided we're not going to have sex today'. If he asks why, just say 'because'. Don't give a reason. If he makes a move on you, say 'I'm not letting you have me today. You're going to have to wait'. If he asks how long, firstly you're on the right track and secondly b…
/r/seduction20/10/15 07:09 AM
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The second tip on the video in this blog post will help you: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/3-quick-fixes-for-your-bar-game/ A lot of social awkwardness is as a result of a lack of social competence (ie you don't know that you can be effective in any social situation, so you feel fear as a result). This tip won't fix you by any means, but is a great starting point. It's something you can practice right away, and then build from there.
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:56 AM
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I would send them a message before you accept 'have we met before?' or similar. In that way you're being challenging, and inviting the girl to qualify herself to you. When she replies, you're now in a conversation and you can escalate accordingly if you desire (ie banter, have a joke online and arrange a date). Simple if you want it to be.
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:39 AM
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If there's one thing I think I'm very good at, it's finding the 'gold' within a person. Everyone has gold within them. Everyone. It's a matter of finding that within you. Often the stuff you think is lame that you hide from the world IS your gold. Obviously I'd need to ask you a number of questions to find your unique value (ie gold), but I guarantee it's in there somewhere. Might need polishing up a bit, but it's there. Once you understand your genuine unique value in this world, you can then a…
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:37 AM
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As I said in another comment, this isn't necessarily bitchy. I just see this as being badass banter. It all depends on the tone of the voice (which you obviously can't ascertain in a text)...but I just assume the best and continue. If later it turns out she really is a bitch, I can let her go. Personally I love a feisty girl with a bit of spice. If you say what you suggested, you just sound butthurt and you can guarantee your interaction is pretty much over.
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:33 AM
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This is just standard banter in my world. I don't see it as being a bad thing, just her being challenging. I would never read this text as being a serious inquiry 'seriously, you think I'd meet you, you worthless piece of shit?'
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:32 AM
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This is an excellent comment and perfectly put. This is so different to being the little 'beta bitch' who she cries on the shoulder to. It's more like you're both on the same level and you get it, when the rest of the world is clueless.
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:30 AM
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Well was my reply accurate? Would you say that's what's going on? Yes...do things that turn him on. Men get turned on by the shape of a woman in tight clothing (a tight ass in yoga pants really does it for me, for example). BUT...you must know the time and the place. Going to his parent's place for dinner is not the time to dress super slutty. Give him the 'lady on the street/whore in the bedroom' feeling...the feeling that he has this wonderful girlfriend who is lovely and charms everyone she m…
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:25 AM
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Nothing wrong with showing her photos. The problem is you are not escalating. I'm guessing you're not touching her much either. Standard 'easy' ways to touch a girl: Say 'I like your nails, let me see' and put your hand out. She will give you her hand. Trace your fingers over her nails. Ask if she has tattoos and to see them. Trace your finger over them. If she says anything you like, say 'that's awesome! Come here' (or similar, it's not a script) and go for the hug. When you pull back from the …
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:21 AM
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Girls are absolute masters at making men qualify themselves. I love to do something I dub 'calling the situation out for what it is'. I've had this numerous times and I simply say: "Ha..is this the point where I'm supposed to say what a wonderful guy I am, and how I love my mother and how I'll treat you right blah blah snore snore?" Not only is this text going to make her laugh, it really cuts through the bullshit.
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:02 AM
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DON'T FRAME YOURSELF AS RELATIONSHIP MATERIAL She likes the fun, cocky, wild, untameable guy. She likes everything you were doing. Just carry on being that guy that is just a little hard to catch and keep hold of. Don't suddenly turn into a needy wuss the second a girl shows interest. As I said in many other posts, if you frame yourself as the fun adventurer type, you'll get lots of hookups, threesomes, wild sex adventures and girls will let it all out with you. If you frame yourself as the rela…
/r/seduction20/10/15 06:01 AM
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It's difficult to say without knowing more about what's going on. But know that in a man's mind there is a difference between 'hot' and 'attractive'. The girls you see in the club wearing tiny dresses with their tits hanging out and shaking their ass up and down the pole...that's hot, to a man. That, crudely speaking, makes our dicks hard and makes us think 'god I wanna fuck her so bad' instantly on a primal level. Attractive however is when you see your girlfriend in a lovely dress, ready for a…
/r/seduction20/10/15 05:57 AM
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"I had a terrible roommate who made me feel lesser half the time (I've moved out now), and I was dealing with (sorta dealing with currently) a oneitis." Be careful with this kind of languaging. Nobody can MAKE you feel anything. This is a question of boundaries. When someone steps over your boundaries, are you able to express it, or do you keep quiet in an attempt to not rock the boat? To answer your question - what would it take to make you feel great? What is a great man? What kind of men, eit…
/r/seduction20/10/15 05:51 AM
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Good shout. Impressed how you pulled out the most important bits of my essay like that. Fancy a job as my official summariser?
/r/seduction20/10/15 05:38 AM
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What's wrong with being forward then?
/r/seduction19/10/15 05:24 PM
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This is a complex issue, probably more so than a reply on here can do justice. People in your position tend to think that they are the only ones experiencing social anxiety, and the rest of the world is super confident with zero insecurities. When you stop to really pay attention, you realise that most people are nervous meeting you for the first time. Most people are a bit awkward and worried about your opinion of them. Most people really want your validation. So instead of worrying about how o…
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:36 PM
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Yeah why not? If you both share an interest, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just something you do together, no different to going to a bar for a drink.
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:33 PM
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"But... well, this is seddit, the place where only brad pitt gets laid, and bald indian men will never be able to procreate." Haha!
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:32 PM
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Think of a social group in terms of a spotlight. The spotlight can only be on one person at a time. Most people want to be in the spotlight, for at least a time. A social event isn't fun if you're always out of the spotlight. We all want our time to shine. Only the really shy and socially awkward never want to be in the spotlight (even then, they would love to be able to, but their fear holds them back). Hence...if you're never in the spotlight, you don't get noticed. If you're always in the spo…
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:31 PM
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I suspect two things: you're coming across more as friend than lover your bitterness towards women is coming through, and is putting them off (it's a vicious cycle, because every woman that does this to you only makes the anger and bitterness worse) Women aren't being bitches to you deliberately. It's just that most of them can't stand any form of confrontation. Most girls have had at least one bad experience where they were honest about how they weren't interested in a guy...and then the guy bl…
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:23 PM
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I kiss on pretty much every first date if it goes well. Where do you get the thought from that it's a bad idea to kiss?
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:19 PM
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Is this actually malicious, like is 'Mr Cool Guy' a bad thing? And if so, are they jealous that you're the man organising this stuff and they aren't? Don't go down the road of being angry or trying to retaliate. You can banter in return, or just laugh and say 'thanks...I am pretty fucking cool.'
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:18 PM
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Good post.
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:16 PM
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What's happening after you have sex with a girl? Are you naturally talking with each other and enjoying each other's company? If this is the case, it's very easy to take her number and text her back and forth afterwards. You arrange to go out again sometime, and you have sex again. Repeat as desired. By the time you've seen her 5 times or so, she'll be the one thinking about getting you into a relationship.
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:12 PM
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Have you seen this post Kyle? https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3p7kxk/how_to_have_casual_sex_and_threesomes_with_lots/ You're welcome to PM me as well. This is something I've really gone to town on in recent years. It's hard to teach this to guys who aren't already having success with women, but if you're doing well right now, it's not a massive tweak. It's all to do with how you set the relationship up right from the start.
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:11 PM
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It sounds like you're friendzoning yourself. I'm guessing you coming across as more the friend rather than the lover. And it's taken you too long to make your move. I wrote this blog post last week which may help (make sure you watch the video too): http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:09 PM
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I made this blog post last week called '3 quick fixes for your bar game'... http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/3-quick-fixes-for-your-bar-game/ The second tip especially should help you a lot in conversation. It gets you away from asking one question after another.
/r/seduction19/10/15 04:05 PM
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Who says they don't? You're speaking for a lot of people there.
/r/seduction19/10/15 03:16 PM
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So can you not have sex with a girl and also be her friend?
/r/seduction19/10/15 02:22 PM
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Way of the Gentleman? Are you for real? Get your own brand!
/r/seduction19/10/15 02:05 PM
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Question: what do you think makes you get put in the friendzone?
/r/seduction19/10/15 12:51 PM
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I wouldn't say you did the wrong thing, being unreactive and 'ok whatever'. I'm always more curious - what are these other guys saying? How many of them are there? What kind of stuff does she see all the time from other men? It's really interesting and you learn a lot from it. Obviously you can ask those questions in a solid, non needy way, or in a super jealous, insecure way...so it's more about your energy behind what you say in this instance.
/r/seduction19/10/15 10:23 AM
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Good question. It's important to come across as a selective and discerning adventurer, rather than an adventurer who puts his dick in everything. So he needs to make you feel that he's seen something in you that sets you apart from other women, that he's not normally impressed by most girls he meets...but you seem to have something about you. As opposed to you just being the next girl on the conveyor belt.
/r/seduction19/10/15 09:36 AM
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You may have read my recent post on how to have lots of casual sex and threesomes. It revolves around being the guy she can let go with, who she can tell anything to you. Being jealous of other guys has no place in your world. You are totally awesome, and almost certainly the best choice for her. So when she shows you all the messages she gets, why not show you understand her situation? Instead of thinking 'why would she like me, when she's got all these other guys?', why not say 'yeah, I bet it…
/r/seduction19/10/15 09:16 AM
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I would give the same advice to a guy whether he wanted to gain weight, lose weight or whatever. Don't worry about your results today. Instead, take the necessary steps to get the results you want tomorrow. That means: eat and train properly approach girls as much as you can and learn quickly from your mistakes (that means you have to sit down and honestly review what happened in each interaction. Post on here asking for help with situations you can't figure out yourself). If each day you do bot…
/r/seduction19/10/15 07:50 AM
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It's a joke dude, calm down.
/r/seduction19/10/15 07:36 AM
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I know me... What do you want to ask? You might want to give some background about your situation and what's going on. You're welcome to PM me for more help.
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:10 PM
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Sometimes you do need words. Yes, your actions, energy and how you carry yourself say a lot..but sometimes you need to be explicit. And actually, the smarter the better in terms of the kind of girl this 'works' on. But really it's not some magic routine. Not judging people isn't a clever trick.
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:09 PM
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I need to understand more of what's going on in your interaction. You can PM me if you want...but do it tomorrow when you're sober. You're not going to learn much if you're wasted.
/r/seduction18/10/15 08:57 PM
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Who ever said she wanted to act on it? Not sure what your point is here...everything is a bit confused.
/r/seduction18/10/15 08:55 PM
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Ha you sound just like my sort of girl...PM me ;)
/r/seduction18/10/15 08:54 PM
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No, I don't mention relationships or commitment. It's more about how unfair it is that women are judged for their sexual desires. And how in a perfect world, men and women could be totally open about their fantasies, without being judged. And how you don't understand why other men judge women. What you said just sounds like 'I wanna get laid'. It doesn't show that you're not judging her and she won't get found out (which is the key here). At the risk of shameless self promotion, I have a product…
/r/seduction18/10/15 06:31 PM
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Agree 100%. You can't fake non-judgement. When she tells you her deepest fantasies and you flinch, she'll notice that.
/r/seduction18/10/15 06:01 PM
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Usually this amounts to 'over-grasping'. You don't give a fuck when you're with the less attractive girls because you know there are plenty more available. Hence you can talk to them without any fear, and let your real self out. And if they don't like it, the next one will. However, you view hotter girls as being more scarce and harder to pull. Therefore you either try too hard, or you play too safe with them. You find it harder to be yourself in the same way with these girls that you do with th…
/r/seduction18/10/15 05:56 PM
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Well you should really be aiming to be in the top % of interesting men anyway, shouldn't you?
/r/seduction18/10/15 05:54 PM
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Thanks for the big up. If you want to PM me with some details about your specific situation, I can try and help. Mainly, a person not opening up is all about safety - he feels like you'll judge him or shame him if he does open up. Not dissimilar to this post really. If you can make your guy feel like a strong, masculine man, like a king, then that really helps in all this. Recommend you youtube a guy called Matthew Hussey - he has some great stuff around this area.
/r/seduction18/10/15 05:51 PM
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To answer some of the comments/questions in one post: Guilt and shame - men are shamed for being masculine and desiring women. Women are shamed for being feminine and desiring men. Can anyone else see how fucked up that is? Again - great conversation topic for a first date. I talk about this kind of stuff all the time. How many other men do you think she meets that are capable of talking in this way with her? This isn't about picking up girls in the club. Yes, you can talk about it when you're l…
/r/seduction18/10/15 05:27 PM
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This is tricky...how long have you been with her? The more your relationship is 'set', the harder it is to turn around. Not impossible, but hard.
/r/seduction18/10/15 05:27 PM
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Can you find yourself a wing in your area and commit to the process together? That's what I did when I started learning back in 2005 and it made all the difference. Just the fact I knew I'd arranged to meet him and didn't want to let him down meant that I'd turn up. Once there...then we'd egg each other on to take turns approaching.
/r/seduction18/10/15 11:52 AM
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I genuinely don't know why you're on this board.
/r/seduction18/10/15 11:49 AM
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Guess you've got it all figured out. Carry on if it's working for you.
/r/seduction18/10/15 11:31 AM
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If you want to think this way, you can...but it's not going to help you in life. The rationalisation that if you're not amazing looking you're only going to be banging mediocre girls or really drunk/horny girls. I'm not going to try and convince you. You've made up your mind that this is 'truth'.
/r/seduction18/10/15 10:32 AM
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So did you come on seddit to just tell everyone that only good looking, super buff guys can get laid? Of course good looks attract women, just like money does. But that's just ONE THING out of many things that can attract her. And to say that there's no such thing of women being worried about sleeping with a man because of social stigma is just plain wrong. You're making a blanket statement that covers 3.5 BILLION PEOPLE. Yes, some women will happily fuck a guy, everyone knows about it and she d…
/r/seduction18/10/15 10:00 AM
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I don't disagree but I wouldn't agree with the blanket statement of 'texting is needy'. It's the reason for texting. You can have a space in the day in between business where you text just for the purpose of shooting the shit and connecting. Or you can use that space for trying to get validation from girls via text. One of those is needy, one isn't. It's the intention and energy behind the action, not the action itself. But yeah, if you're texting all day every day...then it's an indicator you d…
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:57 AM
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Ever heard the phrase 'when all you've got is a hammer, everything is a nail'? This is what a lot of really smart guys are like (especially the computer programmer types). Think Comic Book Guy off Simpsons - obviously smart, but is he attractive? If we forget about how obese he is, he is ridiculously condescending, far too sarcastic and very negative. That's very similar to how a lot of smart guys come across "I'm really smart, let me demonstrate not only how smart I am, but how I'm much smarter…
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:54 AM
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Did you read the post? It's way more complex than that and I explained it all. No idea who Scott Eastwood is.
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:50 AM
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Yes...I always hug them when they turn up. Then as you pull back, look her in the eye. If she looks back, kiss her. Then take her hand and lead her to the bedroom.
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:49 AM
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This is fairly standard. Often girls will give the 'minimum possible amount necessary' in order to reply to you. Reason being, they don't feel they have to make an effort. At no point are you being challenging. Although your chat is quite funny in places, the overall frame of the interaction is of you trying to impress her. Even your analysis shows this, where you say 'I realise I could have done better here'. It's like you think every thing that you say must be super awesome, or the girl won't …
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:48 AM
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I actually disagree with the standard advice of 'don't text her again, that's needy!' If it was your best friend, what would you do? Would you be worried about looking needy, or would you assume he saw your message and forgot to reply and needed a nudge? What would you message him? Something like 'Oi...where did you go???' That's exactly what I do in these situations. It's still high value to chase her up like this. You're assuming that she didn't reply because maybe she was driving, saw the mes…
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:40 AM
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Tell her you like her nails and get her to give you her hand so you can see. Ask if she has tattoos and to see them. Trace your finger over the tats. When she says anything cool/funny/interesting, say 'that's awesome, I love you!' and go for the hug. When you pull back from the hug, look at her and kiss her.
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:35 AM
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You have no internal compass. No sense of who you are as a man. No sense of 'this is who I am, and this is what I stand for in this world. This is the kind of behaviour I will tolerate, and the kind of behaviour I won't. These are the kind of people I want in my life, and these are the kind of people I don't.' Right now you're in a place where you want to do anything to impress girls. 'Tell me what to say or do and I'll do it!' That neediness, that desperation is what is putting the girls off. W…
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:32 AM
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This video is the most viewed on my YT channel. It's called 'can ugly guys get hot girls?' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_VBK6jZMxo It's for any guy who thinks he's too ugly, too good looking, too short, too tall, too Indian, too Japanese, too English, too American, too black, too white, too rich, too poor, too young, too old...you get the point.
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:29 AM
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Boundaries is a subject that sounds easy 'just tell her no!', but is actually really tricky. How do you know when someone has crossed your boundary line? How do you express this with strength, without sounding like a butthurt dickhead, but whilst still getting the message across? What should the consequences of non compliance be? Never speak to this person again? Sometimes that's not possible (for example work colleagues) I recently spent 4 months coaching one of my one on one clients on nothing…
/r/seduction18/10/15 09:24 AM
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You haven't build enough comfort. She's telling you 'I don't know you, I don't feel safe". Safety is a big thing for a girl, both in terms of emotional and physical safety. The two main reasons she won't meet you (assuming she's attracted, which it seems she is) are: you might be a rapist/killer conversation might be awkward You get past both of these by simply talking to her more. More text conversation. When you get to a high point and she's replying instantly, send the message: "Can you hear …
/r/seduction17/10/15 06:49 PM
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So what these girls are telling you is not that they aren't attracted or interested, but that they don't feel SAFE enough with you. Girls are fucking horny. We all know that on here (or we should know it, at least). However, girls face more risks from having sex than we do: pregnancy judgement from friends judgement from herself (she doesn't see herself as that kind of girl) judgement from you (you might see her as a slut, and go off high fiving the bros and bragging about this slut you banged l…
/r/seduction17/10/15 03:51 PM
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Not 100% - it's much easier when you have options to be authentic about it. Just like it's easier to seem like you're busy when you actually are busy, instead of deliberately waiting a while to text back. But..until then, fake it til you make it.
/r/seduction16/10/15 06:15 PM
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Rude again. You have no idea what my 'moves' are.
/r/seduction16/10/15 09:03 AM
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Unless it goes badly, you should be kissing on the first date, often having sex. If you're doing high 5's and hugs, when you pull back from the hug, pause and look at her. If she wants to be kissed, she'll look back at you. Then kiss her. It's really not a big leap from a hug to a kiss.
/r/seduction16/10/15 09:03 AM
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Excellent reply. Every situation is different.
/r/seduction16/10/15 08:29 AM
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The best "strategy" is actually being honest with her. I noticed in the comments you said: "So because of this, she has a valid reason for thinking im "bola bola" but in reality i'm on the hunt for one I can lock down and mold into gf material. " Why can't you say this? "Yeah it's true, I love women and I've been with a few. But in reality I'm actually looking for a really high quality girl that stands out from the rest who I can make into my girlfriend." This is honest, genuine...but still chal…
/r/seduction16/10/15 08:28 AM
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There's a category of immature girls who have 'strong masculine man' confused with 'utter dick who disrespects me'. They are so used to guys fawning all over them and being overly fake-nice that a guy who is a total dick actually stands out and becomes appealing in contrast. However, acting in this way is not good for you in the long run. First of all, you never feel good deep down when you act like a dick to someone. You might feel clever, but you don't feel good. Secondly, you are giving yours…
/r/seduction16/10/15 08:16 AM
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What actually happens when you approach? Do you get shut down immediately? Do the girls respond to your initial open at all?
/r/seduction16/10/15 08:10 AM
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I'm not mad at you. There's many people around who are pretty rude and unpleasant, and rationalise it as being direct. You can be direct and still show respect for the other person, or you can be direct and act like the other person is a 'dumbass' (which is what you called me). I've read your 'insider tips' and I don't really rate them.
/r/seduction16/10/15 08:03 AM
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Do you need to isolate her? Why can't you just engage them both? Remember that you see a girl in school all the time, so you have plenty of opportunities to talk to her both on her own, and with other people.
/r/seduction16/10/15 08:01 AM
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Interesting suggestion. I wouldn't say this makes AA disappear, more like turns it into the lesser of two evils. But it's different to the usual tiresome ideas.
/r/seduction15/10/15 11:49 AM
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Actually I think that would be a funny response 'I just want to get inside dem pants'... She think you're kidding. And if she blows up, you just pretend you were kidding. Either way it creates an emotional spike.
/r/seduction15/10/15 11:47 AM
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Yeah, I hear you on that score. So many people have an entitled attitude where they think they should have the right to eat and drink as much as they want, not have to exercise, and somehow maintain the body they naturally had at 17. I said the below in an earlier post today - applies here too: I'm 35 and I'm way more attractive to 21 year olds than I ever was when I was in my 20s. Not every young girl will like you, but instead of worrying you're too old, start realising the value you have to o…
/r/seduction15/10/15 11:45 AM
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The need to come up with amazing conversation is still putting yourself in a position where she is the wonderful princess sat up on her pedestal, and you're the poor beggar man who needs to impress her. How hard do you think she is trying to come up with amazing questions to ask you about your life? Those 'boring' questions are fine topic openers. It's where you direct the conversation from there that sets you apart. It's your ability to go deep and pull out the stuff that other men can't find. …
/r/seduction15/10/15 09:52 AM
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It's not impossible, but it's not that realistic to expect to go from zero touching to sex just like that. It's like trying to drive a car from a standing start in 5th gear. You want to escalate smoothly through the gears. Counselling you on your past over a reddit post is maybe outside the realm of my capabilities, but I would say that your past doesn't have to equal your future, and you can resolve that from now on, this is a new start for you and you're throwing away all the old shit. I know …
/r/seduction15/10/15 09:46 AM
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"Why is she touching me?" The answer always is...she's attracted to you. Even if that's not the case every single time, it's best to assume that's the reason and proceed as if that were the case. I often comment on the situation that's unfolding. "You seem to be touching me a lot...why is that? I understand it must be hard to keep your hands off me." "I hope you realise I'm ticklish. I'd prefer it if you didn't make me squeel like a little girl." Try verbalising this stuff. It's pretty easy and …
/r/seduction15/10/15 08:56 AM
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Ok I need to know more about what's going on in your head. What is it about being touched that makes it a turn off? What do you believe about being touched that is causing you to be thrown off track so much? I mean if anything, it's a sign of interest from the girl, so in theory you should be even more sure of yourself, right?
/r/seduction15/10/15 08:32 AM
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I made this post on a similar thread yesterday: Just be friendly and cool at parties. You don't want to be the 'pickup guy'. You already have a reason to approach, because you know the host. So do the following...go up to the group and say: 'Hey girls!' and wait for the response. 'I don't think we've met before have we?' wait for the response. 'I'm Bob' (or whatever your name is) Then go round everyone in the group, shake their hand and get their name. Then ask 'how do you know <host>'? (whoever…
/r/seduction15/10/15 08:30 AM
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If it's playful, why is it a problem? I'd need more info into the exact situation. What is being said, how often etc. Because a bit of playful banter is fun. But a girl should be 'on your team' when she's with you in public. She can make fun of you, but it should never feel like it's her and your friends abusing you. Need more details if possible.
/r/seduction15/10/15 08:05 AM
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I would say worry less about canned cold reads, and actually attempt to read her. You can tell so much from body language and voice tonality. You don't need basic cold reads.
/r/seduction15/10/15 07:28 AM
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Exactly, and that's very often what happens. When you realise this, you'll start seeing young girls qualifying themselves to you about how 'mature' they are, and how they aren't drunken idiots like other girls their age etc. When you hear this, let them carry on. They are trying to win you over, so let them work to do that.
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:57 AM
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If you want specific help on certain approaches, let me know. Often you meet girls and they do things that you cannot figure out...and you need to ask someone 'what happened here?'
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:39 AM
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What do you do for a living? If you're in an office, get used to saying hello to people in the kitchen and walking around. Always be the one to say 'hi. How's it going?' Then let them respond. Sometimes a good conversation will ensue. Sometimes it won't. But get used to being the one to take that first step.
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:21 AM
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I've mentioned it in a fair few posts now, but you need to have the 'fun adventurer' frame, rather than the 'provider male' frame. You're the guy who she can let go and have fun with, without judgement. You're not going to fall in love with her after 2 dates and you're not going to high 5 all the bros after having sex and tell them all what a slut she is. In other words, she is safe to let go with you. How you do this...well that's detailed, and another post for another time.
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:20 AM
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I'm 35 and I'm way more attractive to 21 year olds than I ever was when I was in my 20s. Not every young girl will like you, but instead of worrying you're too old, start realising the value you have to offer these girls in comparison to guys of her own age. Guys of her own age are drunk, insecure, either too loud (fake confidence) or too shy (no confidence), they have no money, no life skills, no knowledge of the world and no experience. They are often poor at sex too '3 pumps and a squirt'. Mo…
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:18 AM
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As a man, it's best to have the 'fun adventurer' frame where you're having loads of fun in life, seeing different girls and it would take a seriously amazing girl to make you want to settle down with her. You have many options, and she needs to prove to you that she is the best option for you. compare that to your current mentality of thinking 'this is the only girl, I must keep her'. Even if you manage to hide that attitude in the words you say, it will still leak through in your energy. Needin…
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:14 AM
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Your problems as I see it are the following (and very common): You don't understand your own unique value, therefore have a hard time feeling 'worthy' when it comes to meeting women You're in the mindset of trying to impress women, rather than knowing you are enough and wanting to find out if they meet your standards. Women want a man with status (that doesn't necessarily mean looks and money either). Men with status have options. Men with options can pick and choose. Men who can pick and choose…
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:06 AM
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I would ask - would you be interested in 20 year old girls if you knew they were interested in you, or are you only interested in older women? This affects the response I give you.
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:02 AM
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Good work for facing your fears. So when does the practice end and you approach someone you actuall want to speak to?
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:01 AM
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Main problem I see here is you don't think that you are enough. Hence the fake confidence. Fake confidence is tiresome - I can see through it in about a second, and most girls can too. This is a very deep topic, and beyond the scope of a reddit reply, but you need to work towards being comfortable enough to let the full you out to the world, warts and all, instead of putting on the act that you think girls want to see. Also why are you approaching a girl with the intention to make her your girlf…
/r/seduction15/10/15 06:00 AM
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If there's one thing I feel sets me aside from other pickup type teachers, it's that I'm very good at finding a person's 'gold'. I feel that pickup asks you to fit into a very tight definition of what a man is, and what a man should be. You need to be alpha, bro! In reality, there are many different aspects of a man that a woman could find attractive. For example, one guy I coached early this year was really into poetry. But he used to hide this from girls because he thought they would think it …
/r/seduction15/10/15 05:53 AM
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You're in too much of a pickup mentality if you're worried about passing shit tests and the like. Think about it from a big picture perspective - if you're sat there thinking 'must pass her shit test', who is the one trying to impress the other one? Do you ever give her shit tests to pass? Do you think she is there thinking 'omg, I must pass his shit tests'? Or do you think she is sat there qualifying the fuck out of you, and ready to walk at any moment (like most girls on a date)? This is the b…
/r/seduction15/10/15 05:48 AM
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So these questions are what I would call 'low risk topic openers'. They are nice and safe and non threatening. You wouldn't usually start a conversation with 'when did you last have sex?' because the girl would instantly be on the defensive. So questions like this are good because they make it easy for a girl to respond. What you want to be doing is really listening to what she says and coming up with responses she doesn't hear all the time. Here's an simple exercise for you to practice in conve…
/r/seduction15/10/15 05:41 AM
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Why can't we as men define what we find attractive in a woman? Why does it have to be the woman sitting on the pedestal and the man attempting to impress her?
/r/seduction15/10/15 05:32 AM
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It's true, but these guys need help, so why not help them?
/r/seduction15/10/15 05:32 AM
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You're also rude, unpleasant...and you give bad advice. But carry on if you think you're helping people here.
/r/seduction15/10/15 05:31 AM
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There's good courses and bad ones. Not everyone is a 'jackass in a funny hat'. Some courses will take years off your growth time. It's really hard to figure this stuff out alone. I wish I had the chance to have a mentor when I was 25. I did a lot of it alone and it took a LONG time.
/r/seduction14/10/15 04:35 PM
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Day game - day game by Todd. Night game - hard to say. Probably RSD stuff in fairness. But the best product I've seen was one I didn't mention above...it's a book called 'Womanize' by Stephane Hemon of Ideagasms. Gave me a massive shift in my mindset when it comes to dating. I was able to throw away of a lot of the pickup programming bullshit as a result of this. I don't use torrents anymore as I think people should pay for products that other folks have taken time, money and effort to create. M…
/r/seduction14/10/15 04:21 PM
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I agree and disagree with the comment that bootcamps are a waste of time. I think for an already advanced guy who wants to refine his bar game, an RSD bootcamp might be ideal. It might be the last few pointers he needs to really tighten up. Unfortunately I don't think most attendees have this mindset. They instead think 'I'm going to be fixed in a weekend' and go in expecting to be this massive pimp by Sunday. What usually happens is they get pushed into a few approaches, get a bit of a workshop…
/r/seduction14/10/15 12:12 PM
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Ha indeed, or 'Steve' the motherfucking 123kid.
/r/seduction14/10/15 11:58 AM
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Here's the thing...if you were totally 'alpha' and a man on your path, not supplicating to her in any way, having strong boundaries, being fun and generally the kind of man she wants to be around... ...if you didn't go for her number, she won't be sat there thinking 'what a beta pussy'. She'll be thinking 'does he even like me?' Don't get hung up on specific actions and think 'I was beta in that one instance, I ruined it', think of it more in big picture terms. How does she view you as a man?
/r/seduction14/10/15 11:41 AM
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Well I couldn't have been much more detailed with what I said...try it.
/r/seduction14/10/15 10:34 AM
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You're a little vague in your question. What do you think you do that was so beta? The pickup community has very tight and limiting definitions of what 'alpha' and 'beta' are, and guys spend too much energy and time trying to mould themselves in what they are told an alpha should be (an un-alpha thing to do in itself).
/r/seduction14/10/15 09:46 AM
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Forget about narrow definitions of what 'alpha' and 'beta' are. This is about self-respect. As a man, you need to know what you stand for and what your boundaries are. You need to know what you will tolerate and what you won't tolerate. I bet there's been tons of times when she's done things that step over your boundaries, but you never called her on it because you were scared of losing her. Most times when a girl behaves badly, she knows it. Every time you fail to stand up for your boundaries, …
/r/seduction14/10/15 08:48 AM
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The biggest booster for me was figuring out who the fuck I am and what I stand for in this world...and resolving not to tolerate any bullshit that falls outside it. I am on my path and I know where I'm going. You're either with me, supporting me and full on board...or you're not. It's getting away from the mindset of 'how can I impress this one girl' and instead getting on my path in life. It gives you a completely different aura. Girls can just sense it about you.
/r/seduction14/10/15 08:43 AM
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Tbh I really hate that attitude. Yes there's always going to be girls that you only see once or twice and it fizzles out. But in general these days, if I'm with a girl, I actually enjoying spending time with her, doing things with her, even god forbid talking to her. Sex is actually a small part of the equation.
/r/seduction14/10/15 08:39 AM
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There is no time to waste. Get good at girls and relationships NOW. Every day you waste is another day less that you get to enjoy the fruits of being really good. It won't affect your career choices. Just don't fuck every girl in the office, because it creates ridiculous dramas. The main factor is of you providing value in whatever field you go into. Be really fucking good at what you do. If you're that good, your personal choices won't matter. If you're shit, then they might.
/r/seduction14/10/15 08:31 AM
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OK...what makes you think they will think you are a creep? What do you think makes girls tag men as being creepy? Just be friendly and cool at parties. You don't want to be the 'pickup guy'. You already have a reason to approach, because you know the host. So do the following...go up to the group and say: 'Hey girls!' and wait for the response. 'I don't think we've met before have we?' wait for the response. 'I'm Bob' (or whatever your name is) Then go round everyone in the group, shake their ha…
/r/seduction14/10/15 08:22 AM
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'That was the best 30 second interaction I've had with a girl all week...nice work ;)'
/r/seduction14/10/15 07:31 AM
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This is a very common problem - in fact, I used to be exactly the same myself. It's a question of permission and safety. When you're with your friends, you know they like you and they accept you. So you have permission to let your full personality out and you are completely safe to do so - they have approved of you before, so they will approve of you now. Whereas when you are with someone new, you don't know if they will like or hate your personality. So you're waiting for them to give you some …
/r/seduction14/10/15 07:31 AM
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I wrote this in another thread just now, it may help: Think of it as being a series of small compliances, leading up to sex. Too many men go on a date with a girl and sit across from her with a big table in the way. No touching takes place for 3 hours...then suddenly he does the horrible 'awkward lunge' manouevre at the end of the night in an attempt to kiss her. From her point of view, this has come out of nowhere and feels awkward and weird. So here's what I recommend: When you meet her, give …
/r/seduction14/10/15 07:11 AM
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Stop thinking in terms of tactics and 'coming on too strong' and think about what you want, as a man. One of my core philosophies is that I put myself out there fully, and you choose whether you like it or not. Either way is fine. You're either in 'Team Richard' or you're not, as a girl said to me last year. So if I like a girl, I'll invite her out. And she'll have no doubt I like her when we meet. I'll be flirting, touching, hugging...before she knows it we're kissing. There won't be any 'let's…
/r/seduction14/10/15 07:09 AM
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You're overthinking it. You want to talk to her, she wants to talk to you. Why not just say 'hi'? She wants to talk to you, so I guarantee she'll be receptive.
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:50 AM
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You don't need to defriend her but I would certainly recommend unfollowing her so you don't see her posts. You don't need to be reminded 3 times a day about her. You're trying to move on. Figure out what you need to be doing with your life and get on with it. Do the tasks that are important for you to be moving forward and commit to them. You'll still think about her from time to time, but you'll feel much better if you're on track and on purpose.
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:49 AM
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Think of it as being a series of small compliances, leading up to sex. Too many men go on a date with a girl and sit across from her with a big table in the way. No touching takes place for 3 hours...then suddenly he does the horrible 'awkward lunge' manouevre at the end of the night in an attempt to kiss her. From her point of view, this has come out of nowhere and feels awkward and weird. So here's what I recommend: When you meet her, give her a big warm hug and say 'good to see you!' I ALWAYS…
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:47 AM
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Have you searched Facebook groups? Is there an Orlando pickup board, or seduction or similar? There's a thread on here for people's locations - I'm sure Orlando is on it.
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:26 AM
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Do you ever talk about your philosophy on relationships and how men and women interact with each other? Do you talk about the problems men and women have getting together? I talk about this shit all the time. I'll say things like 'these days, it seems like if anything, men are the ones trying to pressure women into serious relationships after 2 dates, and the women are the ones saying "hang on, I'm not sure I want this right now"'. Women tell me that time and time again they go out with guys who…
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:25 AM
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What can I say, I must be psychic. No worries. Let me know how you get on with Jenny. If you need specific help, you're welcome to PM.
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:07 AM
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You'll be better equipped for last time. We all have to go through these experiences in order to learn.
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:06 AM
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Because you're putting yourself in the frame of 'you chasing her'. You're available to have sex with her if she wants to. Where is the challenge here?
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:06 AM
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You don't need to feel like shit. Just learn from your mistakes and move on. This is how we all learn - wash, rinse, repeat. Women love sex and they want you to step up, be a man, and fuck them properly. But because they don't want to feel slutty, they rarely instigate it. They tend to put themselves in a situation where it can happen, and expect you to take care of the rest. Don't feel bad. We've been raised as men to believe women want us to be super respectful, and are sensitive delicate litt…
/r/seduction14/10/15 06:05 AM
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Sometimes in a group of 2, where both are attractive, guys settle for the lesser of the two, because they don't think they can get the better one. Or you have a face like thunder when you're out ;) Tell me something about SD. Where's good to go? I'm there in Feb.
/r/seduction13/10/15 04:21 PM
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Practice!! Remember this, and next time you're in this situation, act accordingly. Like anything, you get better by practicing. Have as many interactions with women as you can.
/r/seduction13/10/15 04:13 PM
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Do the soft close. That's where you throw out vague plans about having a drink sometime. If she responds positively, you go for the hard close - specific date and time. Ok, when's good for you? Wed or Thur works for me. Then arrange. Based on your info, she's definitely interested. She's got the approval of her friends. You're good to go. She's waiting for you to take action and step up.
/r/seduction13/10/15 04:06 PM
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I only wrote this a couple of days back, but it's proving a very popular post and exactly speaks to your situation: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/ Let me know if you have any specific questions.
/r/seduction13/10/15 04:01 PM
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I would just look her in the eye, smile..pause... 'Thank you. What would you like to do about this?'
/r/seduction13/10/15 04:00 PM
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In that case, that's definitely her concern. She doesn't want to be the horrible bitch who breaks your heart. I would recommend just inviting her for a quiet drink somewhere one evening. The key is to keep everything safe, no big deal. Just an easy drink. Then when you kiss her, no big deal. Then when you go back to your place, no big deal. If she says anything like 'oh I'm not sure', just say 'let's just see how we go, no big deal, no pressure. I know you want to take it easy and I'm in no rush…
/r/seduction13/10/15 03:52 PM
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I would ask you...why are you interested in charisma specifically? What results do you hope it will bring you that you're not getting now?
/r/seduction13/10/15 03:26 PM
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Are you kidding? You look hot to me. Although you also look kinda badass, so it's possible most men are too intimidated to approach. What's your body language like? Are you open and relaxed, and approachable looking, or are you often closed off? Do you wear headphones a lot? Are you often in a big group? These things discourage people approaching.
/r/seduction13/10/15 03:24 PM
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When girls say that, it's usually a token objection and I pay no attention to it. You're right in that it's just a justification so she can say later 'it just happened'. Girls also do this to send a message to you 'don't expect sex'. Because sometimes they come round and you don't get on well at all, but the guy still expects sex anyway, by virtue of the girl being at his place. This can create some pretty awkward, even sometimes scary situations for women. So better for them to say 'no sex' bef…
/r/seduction13/10/15 03:09 PM
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This girl's behaviour is terrible. What you should have done is have strong boundaries and called her on all her bullshit. Instead, sadly you fell right into her frame. You wanted pussy so badly, you totally threw all your self respect out of the window. Treat your self respect like a precious piece of fine china that could shatter at any time. Protect it at all costs. You bought 6 beers and the fucking girl is calling you cheap? WTF is that all about? Right there and then I would say 'listen, I…
/r/seduction13/10/15 03:03 PM
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As a man, you generally fall into either the 'fun adventurer' or 'provider male' frame. You need to frame yourself as the fun adventurer. You're the guy she goes on fun adventures with, has lots of stupid laughs with, tons of great sex (often in risque locations), tells all kinds of stuff to and generally has a great time with. But you're not the guy she expects to settle down with. When you present yourself as this guy, girls generally are willing to have sex with you right away and you don't g…
/r/seduction13/10/15 02:53 PM
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It's just valueless. What does either party really get out of it?
/r/seduction13/10/15 02:49 PM
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Feel free to PM me if you want some help.
/r/seduction13/10/15 02:48 PM
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So many people definitely 100% sure that this girl doesn't like you, going from the tiny post you made. They may well be right, but they may well be not. However the one thing I do agree with here is that you shouldn't be trying to plan some awesome date for the first date. It should be something low key that's safe and easy to say yes to. Go for the soft close first. That's where you throw out the vague suggestion of a meeting 'I might let you join me for a quiet, low key drink somewhere next w…
/r/seduction13/10/15 01:32 PM
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I bet you can't explain why. Guys have their heads full of rules and regulations without ever actually thinking of the reason why those rules are there in the first place.
/r/seduction13/10/15 01:17 PM
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Sounds like you're just being too 'nice' and not challenging enough. Also you need to comment rather than ask questions. So if you say 'what do you do?' and she says 'I'm a nutritionist', make a comment on that first, before asking a further question. If you know nothing about that, you can say 'Wow, that's something I know nothing about. What does that involve?' It's a little more personality and a little more interesting just 'What does that involve?' In a way, every time you ask a question yo…
/r/seduction13/10/15 12:18 PM
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This is a very complex topic and probably too deep for a single thread in terms of where the boundary line is. However in general, it's more intent based rather than specifically what you say. Your energy must be 'I'm not perfect and this is what I'm working on right now, but it's cool'. You have to fully own your shit. You know your issues and you know your flaws (we all have our own flaws and our own shit). You're not ashamed of it and you're not a victim either. That's the main difference - m…
/r/seduction13/10/15 11:48 AM
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It's so much more than vocalising. Yes that can help, but it's more about your energy. Your entire energy needs to project a man who is totally unashamed about his sexual desire, who in fact is proud of his masculinity and the fact he is a man. We are shamed for being men these days and desiring women...there are very few men who are actually unashamed of who and what they are. I wrote a blog post on this only this week...feel free to PM me if you have more questions on this: http://www.wayofthe…
/r/seduction13/10/15 11:45 AM
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I've done these. Guessing you haven't.
/r/seduction13/10/15 10:56 AM
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Yeah, I probably didn't explain it too well. It's not always that easy over text. What's in my head doesn't necessarily get read by someone else in the same way I intended.
/r/seduction13/10/15 10:04 AM
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You're not apologising for your actions, you're apologising for her reaction to you. You're not sorry you approached and interrupted, you're sorry she was surprised. It's not a genuine 'I'm so sorry and I'm worthless, please forgive me', it's more empathetic. It's more 'I note and understand your surprise'. You're showing her that you get it. That you have social skills and emotional intelligence. That you're not some sociopath that goes around upsetting everyone everywhere he goes with no clue …
/r/seduction13/10/15 09:46 AM
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You are by no means an uncommon case, my friend. I've done this myself, and so have many many men. You've had a great experience here, because you'll never do this again. This is a lesson to you to stay on your path as a man. If you fall off your path and make your life all about her, she likes it initially, but over time loses respect for you as a man. Because if you can't stand up to her and say no to her, how can you stand up to the big bad world and keep her safe and protected?
/r/seduction13/10/15 08:26 AM
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First of all, you sound great! Any girl wanting to cuddle and cook for me has my approval right from the start. It's disappointing to see guys complaining about this post and trying to send you to fPUA. A girl is here telling us what she wants from guys! We should be paying attention to this. I agree with everything you say. You want a man you can invite over and potentially have a nice time and great sex with, but not for him to expect that it's his constitutional right to put his dick inside y…
/r/seduction13/10/15 08:20 AM
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If you see her at a party, just approach her like you would normally. 'Hey Jenny!' It's better than normal because you already know her. Girls very much live in the moment of their emotions. She may think you're a dick when you initially approach her at the party, but if you're rooted, calm and fun she will quickly forget that and start liking you again. She liked you once already so it's actually in your favour. Why not reengage and go for it? Even if she says no, the end result is no different…
/r/seduction13/10/15 08:14 AM
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No worries, feel free to contact me directly on here or through my site if you have any questions. I can help you amplify your natural qualities, but first I'd need to ask you some more questions about yourself to find out what they are. If you fill in the contact form on my personal coaching page, I'll try and help you out (I'll only be able to give you limited advice for free, but it should be enough to get you on track).
/r/seduction13/10/15 07:48 AM
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In situations where you see the girl every day, it doesn't need to be a 'one shot deal' like approaching a girl in a bar. There's no value in turning the approach into a massive event that is either do or die. When you're in class and you have something you're working on (say some task the teacher just set you) just turn round and say 'hey'. Then see how she reacts. If she responds well - say she lights up, big smile 'hey!!', say - wow, you're very happy and smily aren't you? And see how she res…
/r/seduction13/10/15 07:47 AM
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First of all, it's worth asking why you want to be mysterious? Is it because you think women will like you more? Is it necessary to be mysterious for women to like you or can a 'cards on the table' kind of guy still get all the girls he wants? Anyway, to answer your question. As humans, we are pattern-creating machines. We see a handle on a door twice, we then create a pattern in our minds called 'door handle'. Then we can come up against all different kinds of door handles and know how to use t…
/r/seduction13/10/15 07:37 AM
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When girls say 'do you do this a lot', 'do you do this to every girl', 'you're a player', what they are often saying is 'I have a level of interest in you attraction-wise, but I don't trust you'. In other words she thinks she's just another girl that you're spouting shit to in order to get laid. Start thinking about how you can show her that she's different to other girls. I do this all the time. So if you go up and say hi and she responds well 'hey!!' in a super open and friendly way, you can s…
/r/seduction13/10/15 07:22 AM
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Guys try to be too clever. If you're trying to arrange the perfect date, you've already set up a frame where you're trying to impress her. After all, why isn't she trying to arrange the perfect date for you? I prefer to say 'let's meet in a low key, chilled out pub or bar somewhere, sit in a corner on a comfy sofa and just talk. Low pressure. If we hate each other we can just end the date after 15 minutes with no hard feelings.' Have the frame of 'let's see if we like each other' rather than 'le…
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:59 AM
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Yeah a nickname is a good way to do it. But you're still starting from scratch, or at least not the same point you were previously at. Doesn't take long to get back to where you were. Bit like muscle memory in the gym - if you have time off and lose your muscle, you regain it quicker when you return.
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:52 AM
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Since you mentioned the phrase plenty of fish...go on pof or ok cupid and set your location to Sydney. If you have tinder plus you can also do the same. Then hit girls up like you would normally online (if you don't know how to do that, I can help you there too). I actually went to Sydney in March (I'm from the UK) and set up a good few dates beforehand.
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:48 AM
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The initial approach is hard. Can you find a local wing that you can do this with? It's much easier with someone else. I found that when I was learning game way back in 2005 (I feel like Old Man River here), having a wing helped us both. He would approach when I was too scared and pull me into conversations. And I would do the same for him. We challenge each other into more and more crazy and ridiculous approaches. It became silly and fun, instead of scary. Where are you based?
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:46 AM
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It's hard to say what's going on. I'd need to ask you more questions about what was said, what the vibe was like, how she was reacting to you, etc to know for sure. My guess is that you're coming across more as the friend than the lover, a very common problem. I wrote a blog post on this only a couple of days back that may help you: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:44 AM
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I would offer a different perspective. 1. Neediness is based on the person, rather than the action. I can send 8 texts without reply and know that I'm still not needy (obviously she has to know me well enough before this point to know that I'm not needy. I wouldn't recommend this with a number you've just got off Tinder). 2. If you text once and she doesn't reply, why worry about seeming needy if all you're going to do is give up? So what if she thinks you're non needy - you're still not seeing …
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:42 AM
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This is something I regularly coach guys through. The problem you have, as others have suggested is that he doesn't seem ready to ask for help. He just seems to be defeatist and if anything wants sympathy for his situation, rather than a solution. If you can make him see that he can improve his results but only if he's willing to, that's the start he needs. Until he reaches the point of willingness, nothing will happen.
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:32 AM
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Hard to say from the lack of information, but generally it means that she has a level of interest, but she's not super interested. Attractive girls especially have a lot of options. So she may meet on Tinder or in some bar, like you and give you her number. But this may have happened with 20 or 30 other guys who she also liked. All these guys are constantly hitting her up, trying to get her to meet. So it's not like she has to make an effort. So you really have to stand out if you want to get he…
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:28 AM
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Agree with the comment below that your best line is 'hi' or 'hey'. Here's what to do: Go up, and say 'hey', then watch to see how the girl responds. If she responds well 'oh hey!!!' with a big smile and open body language, give her a compliment - 'oh wow, you're really open and friendly! I like that..you're kinda cute actually!' If she responds less well, for example a mumbled 'hey', whilst being all closed off and looking suspiciously in your direction like you're a weirdo, say 'oh sorry...I di…
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:17 AM
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Generally it's best not to ask a girl directly 'do you wanna hookup', certainly not unless you've already hooked up before. Reason being that she doesn't want to feel like a slut. She wants to feel like sex 'just happened' naturally, that she was just hanging out having fun with you, and it was just part of the party. If she says 'yes I wanna hook up', she's likely to feel slutty. Some girls won't care about this and go for it, but your % of success will be much higher if you go for the more smo…
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:12 AM
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You suffer from the very common problem with beginner-intermediate guys of being afraid to lose what you've got. You've got a girl who seemingly likes you, and every escalation step is a potential spot where she could reject you. You don't want to lose the good emotions you have associated with this, so you play safe. Recognise that playing safe will not normally get you the girl. Also when she says things like 'you're not one of those guys trying to smoke and hookup are you?', the worst thing y…
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:10 AM
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You have to accept that if you've met her in person and taken her number, that your next interaction will be text based. Her emotional state may have been great when giving you the number, but by the time you text her, it may be neutral or even negative. Hence in essence, you have to assume you're starting from scratch, and build it up again. Then when you're at a high point, you arrange the date.
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:02 AM
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Posting advice with no reasoning isn't very helpful, is it?
/r/seduction13/10/15 06:00 AM
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A few things: I rarely arrange a meet from tinder itself. I usually transfer the convo to text/whatsapp/FB messenger. Reason being, it's a slight compliance from her to give you her number. Not every weirdo that she matches with gets the number. So you're already in a more select category in her mind. I utilise the 'soft close' before the 'hard close'. Hard close is 'let's meet up, Tuesday, 8pm in Bar X'. Soft close is where you throw out the vague idea of meeting up, like 'I don't know how you'…
/r/seduction12/10/15 05:58 PM
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Fear of loss. Understand that girls like a man who takes risks, who is unafraid to go for what he wants. So the risque comments you're not sure about saying, or disagreeing with her on anything...those are the bits that are actually GOLD. Some women will love it and some will hate it...and that's a good thing. You're not supposed to appeal to everyone. Realise if you lose one girl, there are 1000s of others who will like you for being you. But if you half-ass it, you'll lose pretty much all of t…
/r/seduction12/10/15 05:32 PM
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If you're social and not pulling (as opposed to shy and awkward and never talking to anyone), this blog post I wrote might just help you out: http://www.wayofthegentleman.net/how-to-escape-the-friend-zone/
/r/seduction12/10/15 05:22 PM
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This is a bad idea. It's going for too much, too early. If she's not even replying yet, asking for a date is asking for WAY too much. She won't reply to that either. You need to bait her into a response. Something that either pokes fun at her, or intrigues her... "You smell" or "You'll never guess what just happened to me..." Or even just call her out "I hope you're not doing that 'ghosting' thing that's so popular these days..." Strangely, the 'you smell' has worked very nicely. I often get a '…
/r/seduction12/10/15 05:12 PM
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