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CMVWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:21 PM
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CMVWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:18 PM
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DiscussionWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:01 AM
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CMVWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:26 PM
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DiscussionWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:47 PM
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Question for Red PillWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 06:11 AM
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CMVWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 04:32 PM
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Question for Red PillWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 02:22 AM
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DiscussionWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 09:21 PM
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DiscussionWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 02:55 AM
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Question for RedPillWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:26 PM
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DiscussionWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 09:10 PM
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Question for RedPillWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 09:27 PM
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DiscussionWeCaredALot/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 03:37 PM
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I'm sorry, but is she stupid? She doesn't think she can forgive him "even if he comes up with an explanation"? Um, DUH. He's a 30-something year old man sexting a teen. I try to be empathetic with women but come the hell on!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/22 02:42 AM
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WTF
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy21/01/22 02:40 AM
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Great idea! Saving this comment.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/22 07:08 PM
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100% agree.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/01/22 06:58 PM
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Wow...that was a lot. It's obvious that Nick was playing both of the women. He sounds like a huge grifter -- first, using the OP of that story for her finances and support, but it also sounds like he was trying to use the 25 year old side piece as well, re: the part about her helping him with his business. Yet another reason it's a red flag for men to go after younger women... I mean, I'm glad she got away, but yeesh. She should have stopped supporting him a long time ago. And the side piece and…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy27/12/21 07:41 PM
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I'm a black woman, and I'm glad that more white women are starting to see this and speak out on it. Every time black women mention it, we get called bitter or angry so maybe people will be more receptive if white women talk about it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy15/11/21 02:38 AM
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The book The Gift of Fear talks about exactly this. Our intuition is arguably our most powerful sense.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/21 08:13 PM
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Ok, so he was definitely trying to kill her. What in thee FUCK
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/04/21 05:36 PM
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What in Goddess' name?? Please tell me this is fake.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/04/21 05:35 PM
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this is scientifically proven by the fact that women have smaller feet than men. this evolutionary adaptation allows them to stand closer to the stove. lmfaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 12:52 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:51 PM
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Because if she did she’d not be desperate for marriage or be married already. She’d have better game. Like I said, all the girls I know who had a roster or rode cock carousel married earlier and better than the “nice” or good girls. I will also add that sexually promiscuous women can (not always, but can) just be more confident and sure of themselves than ~nice chicks. Plus, they're used to dealing with men and not overly self-conscious like a lot of nice girls are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:42 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:37 PM
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Exactly, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:36 PM
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Exactly, especially if his income is too low to the point where she has to work too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:34 PM
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Why do you guys care about the gene pool so much? Most Jane and John Does are forgotten by history whether they have kids or not. I bet most of the folks who claim to care about legacy and gene pools and whatnot don't even know who their great-grandparents were.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:32 PM
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As much as men say they want one thing, they really don’t do it in practice. All the girls I know who were gigantic hoes married well, and the nice girls are either still searching for good relationships or getting out of bad ones. YES. I was just talking to a friend about this. This whole 'save yourself' and 'keep your N count low' stuff is such bullshit. I know plenty of promiscuous who got married young and had no problems finding men. It was the virginal or 'saving' ones who are STILL lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:19 PM
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Excellent points.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:59 PM
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It sounds like most people in here don't care about high N counts. Given that, why is there so much focus on the dreaded 'cock carousel' and high N counts amongst Red Pill men and Red Pill Women? Who even asks their partner's N-count anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:54 PM
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he will be allowed five times to hit me Why five times? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 02:17 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 04:30 AM
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Just want to say that this is an excellent post, and I've greatly enjoyed reading the comments. It's frustrating to read so many Red Pill opinion pieces (not just here but online in general) that discount the importance of career, family background, and class when men decide who to partner with.
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/18 06:26 AM
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Right?? I'm dying at all the projection in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 10:28 PM
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That said I present Very feminine for the most part This is what most folks care about, imo. I've seen plenty of feminine LOOKING girls who are cold as ice and rely purely on logic yet no one calls them masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 08:57 PM
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kind, socially polite, mentally and physically healthy, clean, orderly, stylish Huh? You can be masculine and be these things as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 08:55 PM
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Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 08:54 PM
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Probably some, but so what? If you commit a crime against someone and they decide to not press charges because they ~forgive you, that's their power to do so. Doesn't make the crime any less of a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 08:50 PM
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I mean, yeah. Most people who complain about not getting the man/woman they want treat the people they COULD get like leftovers. This is true for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 08:03 PM
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Except I've never done #2 and #3 is irrelevant. I'm sure RPers aren't thinking too deeply about the negative effects of single motherhood -- you just want to avoid any interaction with them outside of strictly casual sex. That still has nothing to do with my original question, which was whether there were OTHER factors that contributed to the problems we see in single parent households.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 08:06 AM
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grew up in west Philly in the 70-80s, please don't tell me about black people This doesn't negate what I said, but alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 12:55 AM
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Why do you keep harping on race as if there aren't entire communities of white people in middle America that are perishing due to voluntary drug use? Did the evil immigrants force them to take drugs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 11:24 PM
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You and that squidracer person seem to think black automatically = dysfunctional when blacks (the Americans ones, at least) actually had stable family units after the Jim Crow era and up through the 60's. I wonder what happened...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 11:21 PM
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The most important 'pill' for women to swallow would actually be about the importance of maintaining one's looks if you plan to remain on the market for a while or delay being on the market. And something that has been talked about already -- having it all is not possible. I don't think women necessarily haven't been told those things (we're constantly reminded of how we're old as shit at 30), but the info needs to be presented in a way that highlights why it's important for her and her goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 10:31 PM
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Ok, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 10:10 PM
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Race is certainly not the only difference between single mothers in Iceland and single mothers in America. Poverty level, education level, the stability of the surrounding community (i.e. Reykjavik is probably an easier place to be a single parent than Baltimore) all play a part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:58 PM
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Women need to deal with men as they are, not men as they think they should be. Funny how people rarely seem to believe the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:30 PM
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Sure, of course women can be competitive in the traditional masculine sense. I just meant that on average, women tend to be less competitive compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 06:24 PM
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Diverse communities have a habit of internalizing and then getting exploited by white values. Completely agree. They internalize and are exploited by whatever the dominant culture/race is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 10:57 AM
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Agreed with one caveat: I think that globalization/diversity actually causes people to lose their essence more than anything else because power dynamics will always shift diverse groups towards the subset of people with the most status and/or power. This is why a lot of times you'll see diverse countries where the dominant culture is still white and 'fitting in' means palatability to white people. I also agree that capitalism probably won't work in a society that values womanhood because the fou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 10:45 AM
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in a passive aggressive attempt to prove men don't age like fine wine. K.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 09:34 PM
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You meet 35-45 year old women who put off getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:28 AM
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Why would you think women would have it harder? Because people often talk about how women have a hard time coping with being single, especially when they're middle-aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 01:26 AM
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“I’m taking my toys and going home” attitude. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 08:08 PM
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I don't know. I just know that they're married and many of them have children unless they're super young. The nerdier looking ones have wives that are just as meek and nerdy as them most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 09:39 PM
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I don't believe that most people pushing for women to have more children care about an aging population, sorry. It might be unacceptable to business owners who, like I mentioned before, will have fewer and fewer workhorses to exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 09:25 PM
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That's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:32 PM
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According to some guys on here, all your Dad has to do is go find some 25-35 year old to wife up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:31 PM
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What? I've worked in tech for almost a decade and practically every developer I work with is married unless they're 22/23 and fresh out of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:30 PM
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The only objective purpose of life is to fucking reproduce! And most people on this beautiful green Earth do, in fact, have kids! You'd think we're living in a post-apocalyptic world the way you guys complain about women having fewer children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:25 PM
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LOL, you have no idea what you're talking about. Some of these women are working 10-12 hours days on their feet all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:23 PM
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A decline in population is mainly bad for big business because they'll have fewer workhorses to exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:20 PM
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What makes you think there is a loneliness epidemic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:13 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 06:39 PM
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I didn't say it was. I simply said it was prostitution. This seems to bother you more than it bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 08:12 PM
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So she can't conceptually digest that you're doing anything other than trading your body for money, when instead you're trading leverage for comfort and happiness in pursuit of your biological imperative. But this is still prostitution though. You can dress it up in fancy bio-language all you want to. It might be a necessary or even efficient form of prostitution, but it's prostitution all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:58 PM
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It IS a form of prostitution. You're trading services (keeping the home, childrearing, etc.) for cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:57 PM
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Plenty of women would.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:38 PM
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We are not seeing a decline. We are seeing technological disruption of an outdated and ancient system that is marriage. Completely agree with this. A lot of Red Pillers sound like folks who are just unequipped to deal with modern life and would rather revert back to a familiar system for comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:22 PM
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Men didn’t actually want 1.0, and if all the sluts were to disappear now and all women went back to being how they were back in the day, men will whine incessantly about having to marry in order to get sex and constantly bitch about how their loyal wives and mothers of their children weren’t sexy enough for them. Yep, exactly. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 07:20 PM
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I actually don't disagree with any of this. What I'm saying is I don't think the OC was wrong for kissing him, and I don't think that doing so is justification for his behavior. Whether she had waited 1 date, 2 dates or 6 dates wouldn't have made a difference for a man who's, as you say, not mentally stable. This is where I think people go overboard in blaming the woman. From the information we have, her behavior was not unreasonable, overly slutty, or leading on. I would take this scenario as '…
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/17 09:27 PM
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Huh? She said he had drug and infidelity issues and wasn't invested in a relationship with her. Cutting out someone who exhibits those traits is hardly unreasonable.
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/17 09:21 PM
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What was the comment?
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/17 08:52 PM
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She took a risk and kissed him, she then learned that he is the type to try and push for more. She now knows to avoid him and move on. All dominant men are going to try and push past a woman's boundaries. Most of the time, women want them to do so. The key is to find a man that will push, but also back off when it's not working. This is where we disagree. If I'm misunderstanding what the OP wrote, then let me know but it sounds like she kissed him on a street (I'm assuming a public one?) and whe…
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/17 08:48 PM
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You mentioned the difference between flirting and leading on, but you haven't explained it yourself. And many people define those two things very differently. The original commenter said that she kissed him on a street. It's not unusual for people who are dating to kiss, especially if they're not complete strangers. She also didn't do something reckless like go back to her apartment with him. Sounds reasonable and cautious enough to me, yet he somehow took that as an invitation to masturbate on …
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/17 08:39 PM
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You can be 'wrong' for moving forward with him physically This sounds extreme. The original commenter said that the man she was with seemed trustworthy at first. If a woman were to follow the guidelines you've listed here and take all the necessary steps, and he still decides to push further, has she 'opened the door with her behavior'? And if so, why bother being physical at all then? Especially if moderating sexual behavior is as difficult as loneliness_inc is making it seem.
/r/RedPillWomen06/11/17 08:31 PM
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Take an ugly man and a beautiful woman with equal merit competing for the same job. The woman will likely win that competition. Unless whoever's judging assumes that she's stupid or incompetent due to her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 02:59 AM
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and high chance of drug use and that suicide? lol what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 02:52 AM
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Rich
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:03 PM
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lol, you didn't even fully answer that person's question. You're so obviously deflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 09:00 PM
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Interesting that most folks are happy with their own gender despite all the complaints on PPD, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 12:49 AM
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For the most part, I think women can do everything men can do at this point in time. The only advantage women are missing is time. Not necessarily time to have children, but mostly that older women are more invisible than older men. Also, men don't have to worry about getting raped or attacked by strangers as much. Even with all that, I think I like being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 12:48 AM
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1) Lift weights. Better yet, do a physical hobby he can see himself competing and potentially excelling in (BJJ, judo, boxing, etc.) 2) Master something. Painting, music, become an expert in a field, whatever. Just find something and get good at it. Takes time, but he'd have to start regardless. Most folks will notice ability even before it reaches 'mastery' level. 3) Find a style and stick to it. The first and last points increase physical attractiveness. The second one builds good habits, disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:45 PM
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The right to not be shot dead in the street for walking to a mailbox, walking down a sidewalk, selling CDs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 09:13 PM
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LOL at this delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 08:59 PM
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but it also has the collateral damage of making divorce/alimony/child support a more viable alternative to sticking out a marriage. But the question of whether sticking out the marriage is worth it is still up in the air. In the past, women were STUCK in bad marriages because they had no other options. Now they do. You're assuming that women have gotten trigger-happy with divorce simply because they want to cash out when that's not necessarily the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:46 PM
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This is why I like having slightly older people on this sub -- i.e folks with actual historical context and not just stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:44 PM
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Yeah, because people really go out of their way to express care about divorced women with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:40 PM
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However, everything I have said is in line with RPW and is fundamentally RP. So what? That doesn't make it right. You have a disgustingly permissive view of so-called dominant males.
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/17 08:34 PM
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No this is a fundamental RP basis. Men and women are different. They experience sexuality differently, and the things that make men attractive are not the same things that make women attractive. Men and women experience sex differently...and if you disagree with that I'm not sure why you are on this sub. Your using a poor understanding of biology to excuse selfish behavior.
/r/RedPillWomen26/09/17 08:31 PM
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College educated, employed, middle class on up white women in metro areas do fine. Huh? Isn't it a common RP belief that these things have no bearing, positive or negative, on a woman's SMV? (except for the race part)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 09:59 PM
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I'm purple because I think both RPW (I focus on RPW because it pertains to women) and TBP get some things right and some things wrong. What RPW gets right: Most jobs are ultimately pointless time-sucks in the grand scheme, and unless a person has a deeply fulfilling career (like writing, music, art, etc. imo), family and relationships will provide the bulk of their happiness (or unhappiness) in life Unless a woman is genuinely, truly capable of no-strings attached sex, casual sex is emotionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:46 PM
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lmfaoo, the lengths y'all will go to to guilt trip people into fucking you is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 01:54 AM
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Men become richer after divorce Women fall into poverty after divorce Men get richer after divorce while women get poorer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 09:21 PM
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And no amount of "western women are shit" and/or manosphere/RP blogs is going to get women to give up the sweet freedom and independence that they've acquired. Especially when the multitude of poor, mistreated women in 3rd world countries are already noticing how much better women are treated in western countries and are starting to follow suit. EXACTLY. And funnily enough, I never ever see these tradcon or conservative women fully giving up their freedom and independence either. They're always …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:25 PM
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'Happiness studies' are pretty silly anyway imo. So then why do RPers and some PPers constantly quote that study about declining female happiness? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:20 PM
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Thank you for this. The delusion in some of these comments is just ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:18 PM
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Even if it's an option for most women doesn't mean that most women are SAHMs. I think that's what sublimemongrel was getting at -- that factually most women aren't SAHMs regardless of their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:16 PM
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I'd question who initiated as statistically its women detonating these marriages. Even if it was women (which I assume is what you're getting at), just because they ended the marriage doesn't mean they didn't have just cause. Staying in an unhappy marriage is hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:14 PM
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First off, it's quite telling how some of you always assume an unmarried woman in her 20s is sleeping around. Projecting? Insecurity? Secondly, I'm going to copy and paste what I wrote to another commenter above: 'But so what [if her opportunity for marriage in her prime is over]? I've never understood this obsession with the idea of 'what you could have gotten at your prime.' Anything worth having takes sacrifice and has an opportunity cost. If a woman spends her youth working on some career or…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:12 PM
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but they are infinitely less and diminished from their prime But so what? I've never understood this obsession with the idea of 'what you could have gotten at your prime.' Anything worth having takes sacrifice and has an opportunity cost. If a woman spends her youth working on some career or another and it's worth it to her, it makes perfect sense to me that she'll have to forego something relationship-wise to make it happen. That's just life. The key is making sure that whatever they're sacrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:03 PM
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but they are infinitely less and diminished from their prime But so what? I've never understood this obsession with the idea of 'what you could have gotten at your prime.' Anything worth having takes sacrifice and has an opportunity cost. If a woman spends her youth working on some career or another and it's worth it to her, it makes perfect sense to me that she'll have to forego something relationship-wise to make it happen. That's just life. The key is making sure that whatever they're sacrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:03 PM
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Where the fuck do you live where you see this happening? An average man putting in that much work to get an obese woman? Really?? I've been all over the US and have never seen that happen unless it's a black man with a fat white woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:15 PM
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Well, too bad. Someone has to lose. Why would women fight against their own interests just to help incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:13 PM
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And then there are guys who have even less education than that, less money, and can barely speak English properly much less a foreign language, and they still get plenty of women. Just because you've encountered someone online you think should be in a relationship doesn't mean that women's standards are too high. There is more to attraction than just education and a resume. Hell, there are broke gangbangers who have women fighting over them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:12 PM
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27 is way too young. You'd have to be a rockstar since your teens to make that worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 01:14 AM
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lol you're delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 03:23 PM
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No, this is what you WANT to be true. Not having kids is nowhere near the same as ending up homeless or becoming disabled. If it is for you, then fine. But they're nowhere near comparable for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 03:31 AM
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Right. I've seen a few women like this. And they always define grit/perseverance/substance in the context of relationships. Never anything else. There are myriad ways to show grit without putting up with shit from a significant other. Run a marathon, write a book, start a successful business, compete in a sport, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:47 AM
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I guess it depends on what you mean by 'it worked.' It seems that a lot of people who favor traditional marriages see a marriage as successful as long as it doesn't end. Doesn't matter if the people involved are happy or satisfied or not. Whether a marriage is a failure or a success really depends on the metric you're judging it by. For example, let's say you have two couples -- one western and one non-western. The western one lasted 10 more or less happy years and then ended due to infidelity. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:45 AM
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Well, 90% of divorces are initiated by women, so there's definitely a reason to focus on women. Right, but I think that men initiate divorce less because historically they haven't had a reason to. If a man can have a submissive wife, kids, and a mistress(es), why divorce? There haven't been as many repercussions or consequences to men stepping out of their marriage so divorce isn't necessary. Also, I personally think that the expectations for men make it such that they can fulfill their husband …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:38 AM
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Because it's disrespectful to the wife! And a man would never accept his wife screwing the pool boy on the side, would he? Even if she came home and kept up with her wife duties -- all those biological reasons are just bullshit. The type of traditional marriage you're describing primarily benefits the man, not the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:03 AM
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It's obvious you think marriage = 'women bearing the full brunt of men's selfishness.' Yeah, marriages would last if only women would just accept their husband's narcissistic behavior and get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:58 AM
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I'm curious -- why did you primarily give reasons that blame women? Do you think that men do things that contribute to the divorce rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:55 AM
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People are more apt to choose the style of marriage they grew up around. The ones who opt for a marriage that is different from their home country's are the exceptions, not the rule. Hence, it makes perfect sense that non-western women would prefer non-western styles of marriage since that's what they're used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:54 AM
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To suggest removing his hypothetical children from his life, even if it means removing them from your own, in order to punish him, is like looking into the heart of darkness. Oh, fuck off. You RPers spout nothing but self-centered, narcissistic horseshit and you expect women to put up with. Now you're mad that they don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:50 AM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:45 AM
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No wonder women want to work and earn their own money - so they can't be treated as slaves who have to perform menial tasks for a cheating husband just for their daily bread. Nope, what that kind of marriage is saying is that the man is superior and the women is inferior. Exactly. I'm stunned at some of the purple folks' comments in here. They're truly upset that women no longer have to put up with sexist bullshit to survive anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:38 AM
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Is there something wrong with believing that one deserves more than cheating and putting up selfish behavior? Jesus Christ, no wonder the divorce rate is high and marriage rates are low -- if your response is 'put up or shut up,' well then there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:36 AM
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I find it hilarious how nearly every reason listed here is blamed on the woman in the relationship. Not a single reason is due to men. So as long as a man is allowed to act like a selfish jerk in a relationship, the marriage will hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 01:34 AM
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LOL. I'm willing to bet those same men wouldn't put up with their wives' shit for the sake of the family. You guys are delusional and overly male-identified.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:19 PM
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This post is proof (among many others in the RP sphere) that the vast majority of you RPers are just looking to trap women into a life of mediocrity, boredom, and a slow ride toward death. Nice job that convincing oneself to stay in a miserable, one-sided situation shows 'grit' and 'substance.' A woman could show grit by finishing a novel or starting a business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:17 PM
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This sounds like the root of the problem is women needing to adjust their expectations of men and to take more responsibility for their choices, not an issue with liberation/feminism itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:36 PM
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Lol you literally chose only shows that have hapless dudes in them. Confirmation bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:13 PM
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It sounds like you're talking about middle-to-upper middle class white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:07 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:58 AM
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No it isn't, lol. Women WANT to be approached by HOT guys and left alone by ugly ones. That's the principle. Where's the hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 07:49 PM
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Why wouldn't a woman envy the woman who married a high-status, attractive millionaire? Because she could just become a millionaire herself? Or maybe she has other goals besides marriage? Like, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:57 AM
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I think it would be better advice for women to say to use your femininity as leverage to secure a high-status attractive male to lock down. You think this because you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:50 AM
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lol you don't know this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:35 AM
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If the woman is married but is a SAHW, the money earned by her husband IS hers too. But the problem with SAHMs getting divorced is that they have to RE-ENTER the workforce. Even if they get some of their husband's money, what if it's not enough for her to live on especially if she has custody of the children? You're assuming that the portion of his money is sufficient when most men aren't making huge salaries to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 09:29 PM
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The funny thing about RPers preferring polygamy is that it would actually intensify all of the current dating scene's flaws that they complain about. If polygamy were legal, the top 10% of men would have access to the vast majority of women. And since women are less likely to want more than one man at a time, that means that 90% of men are going to be SOL when it comes to getting a woman. No matter how you shake it, it's always better overall for women to have more choice and freedom in terms of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:12 PM
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So then be high value or marry a low value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:07 PM
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And I'm assuming your solution to all of this is for women to forego the workforce, lock down a 30-something man when she's 18, and stay by his side while he keeps any number of women on the side and has full control over the direction of the relationship? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:04 PM
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What is your obsession with crying that not all men can get casual sex? Are you one of the creepy, ugly, socially awkward men you speak of? No woman owes creepy, ugly, socially awkward men casual sex anymore than men owe creepy, ugly, socially awkward women marriage. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 09:00 PM
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People (coughWOMENcough) are waiting longer and longer to get married because they're enjoying their time on the carousel. MEN are the gatekeepers to marriage, not women. What are you talking about? Are you sure you're RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:50 PM
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Yet if this survey supported your point of view, you'd have no qualms about accepting it. You're biased and illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:46 PM
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Allow men to counter womens social/sexual power with their physical power. A lot of womens abuse comes from the fact they won't suffer consequences for their actions. So beat the crap out of them? lol, you guys are a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 11:31 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:58 PM
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What options do they have? Not raise them? You can't force men to stick around and be fathers when they don't want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:40 PM
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I've never disputed that there are bad men in the world who do bad things, nor that every man alive has done some bad shit. You disputed the idea that immature behavior is not unique to women and instead characterized it as female behavior. You're contradicting your own point now. If everyone has the ability to act immature, then it's an everyone-problem not a woman-problem. The reasons don't change the conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:17 PM
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The girl on the left is sexualized? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:10 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 10:09 PM
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I'm sure you've seen men have uncontrolled aggression and breakdowns and childish displays. It's not the same as when women do it; the causes are different, and the effects are different. This is you outlining irrelevant differences between men and women. Both men and women are capable of immature behavior. Just because the causes are different doesn't mean the behavior is; uncontrolled aggression, breakdowns, and childish displays are still examples of immature behavior regardless of the causes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 09:07 PM
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Doesn't it make sense that if you'd engage in uncommitted sex outside of a relationship you'd more likely do it inside a relationship No, this make no sense at all actually, lol. What does a person's willingness to have uncommitted sex OUTSIDE of a monogamous relationship have to do with their propensity to cheat while in one? The whole point is that he/she is doing it while not committed to someone. In other words, they're doing the honest thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 08:35 PM
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You're using an extreme example. A paraplegic? Really, how many people will have to deal with something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:31 AM
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Projecting, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:27 AM
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But they shouldn't be salty because men and women largely have different goals in life. Men overwhelmingly want sex. Women overwhelmingly want commitment. Believing that women have it easier because they can get laid easier isn't an accurate assessment. If said women were able to get commitment much easier, then that would be a different story. You can't judge Group B by the goals of Group A.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:19 AM
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You sound miserable and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:56 AM
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Boo hoo. Just as you think young people don't understand aging, YOU don't understand how someone could find fulfillment alone despite all of the issues you mentioned. No more joyous milestones? Sure, if you live a life without intention where the only milestones that occur happen because society told you they should. And yes, people around you start to die and your body starts to age. You have to learn to deal with this mentally AND emotionally whether you're surrounded by family and a spouse or…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:54 AM
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I think a lot of people are in for a rude awakening about what getting old is like This is true, but you're assuming that having a marriage and kids will make the process of getting old better. That's a false assumption. And I find something amusing and pitiful about all the lonely people on here who have make portentous claims about getting old just to convince other folks to spend time with them so they can be a little less lonely in their sorry lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:49 AM
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But this exact same rationale could be used to explain why male models and porn stars make less -- because the intended audience for their work wants to see women! The vast majority of porn is made for straight men. Therefore, female stars will obviously be in favor and be able to command higher salaries. The market for women's fashion is several billions of dollars HIGHER than men's. Obviously, female models are going to be in higher demand since they're what's used to sell said fashion. How ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:40 AM
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Single men are richer then divorced men. Proof? Women become poorer because they lose the person they were leaching off of. Even if you believed this to be true, how can you simultaneously believe this and also believe that men get screwed in divorce more than women? In your own words, women end up poorer and yet you're somehow coming to the conclusion that men make off worse than women in divorce? How? No matter how you shake it, it's women who have a greater NET loss after divorce compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:32 AM
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Men are the ones who lose in divorce. This has already been proven to be a myth for almost all but some filthy rich men. EDIT: More evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 12:29 AM
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I agree. And yes, I realize I'm not actually challenging your view, OP, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 11:43 PM
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Excellent point. A more appropriate RP-style subreddit for women would focus on encouraging women's nature rather than trying to beat random tendencies out of them. I was just talking to someone the other day about the differences between the way boys and girls are treated and how that might lead to overvaluing masculine traits and devaluing feminine traits. Boys are often rewarded for hitting certain standards whereas women are punished/prodded into fitting a certain standard. No wonder, imo, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 01:13 AM
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You have got to be kidding? Men were the true romantics? Sure...until the woman got fat or old or he got bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 04:39 AM
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I always argue that what happened to Jessica Canseco cannot happen the other way around. Her husband, a very famous baseball player, walked into Hooters where she was working, decided she was very hot, and that was it. There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that a major female athlete is going to walk into McDonald's, think one of the guys serving is cute, and end up marrying him. Can't happen, won't happen. This is also an extremely rare phenomenon despite the theory of hypergamy. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:13 AM
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when it's really a simple and respectful tradition. This is not necessarily true and a bit disingenuous. For a long time, women were more or less 'owned' by their fathers until moving in with their husbands. It wasn't always slavish, but it wasn't always a sweet and simple tradition either. It really depends on context.
/r/RedPillWomen04/08/17 12:00 AM
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I think it depends on how well/safe society is overall. I've said to folks before that if there's ever a major war or conflict that changes life as most people know it, then we will see a slight resurgence in gender roles, since men will be expected to pick up the physical slack re: fighting, etc. and women will either link themselves to a man or take a non-physically demanding military job. If the welfare state simply collapsed but with no societal breakdown, I think people at the bottom econom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:42 PM
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I think they also see women as Women with a capital 'W' -- not as individuals but as individual replicas of whatever they believe Womanhood to be. I think this is why men have a hard time believing that women can behave and think differently from commonly held beliefs about gender (like all women love children and marriage and caring for others, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:37 PM
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I think men are more likely than women to compartmentalize their external world, including other people. It seems that a good number of men don't actually even see individual women -- they have conceptions of 'Woman' or 'Womanhood' with capital W's, and they use those conceptions as a basis for how they deal with all women (and yes, I'm aware I'm ironically generalizing). The funny thing is that if we believe that men's and women's brains are inherently different and men tend to systematize and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:35 PM
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I've read accounts from women in their EARLY 30s who are having trouble conceiving, and that makes no sense to me at all barring some major health issue. Fertility declines in one's 30's but not so much that it should be difficult for a woman to get pregnant in over a year. Given how accepted casual sex is nowadays, I actually wonder if a non-trivial number of people are having trouble conceiving due to untreated, asymptomatic STDs and STIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:31 PM
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gunts trapping heat by the testicles, etc. lmfaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:29 PM
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Because, once women lose their attractiveness with age/weight/etc, it all starts to tumble down for them too. This is a male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:18 PM
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Average at what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:11 AM
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But like, I never thought about the fact that in high school is when you have access to the youngest pussy you ever will in the highest quantities. lol this is just ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:11 AM
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lol, what is your race?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 03:55 PM
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It's true that women can marry up, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's easier for women overall to transcend their class. First of all, the vast majority of people marry WITHIN their economic and educational class. It's not often that a man making $250k a year is marrying a waitress. Right there, the likelihood of an average looking middle class woman marrying some East Coast elite dude is quite slim. Secondly, you have to remember that women who ARE able to transcend their social class …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 07:43 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 01:27 AM
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Yes, but if you're excusing those men for their contributions, why not offer women the same benefit of the doubt? Don't women birth and raise the very men who contributed to civilization (among all the other people in it)? If you're saying that a group's achievements outweigh their flaws, then fine. But men are not the only ones who have contributed to the greater good. Without childrearing and caretaking from women, there would be NO people to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 01:26 AM
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and you conveniently ignore that the overwhelming majority of these men act in service to female interests. Lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 01:21 AM
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This is some "Trump said some bad things therefore you have to vote for Hillary or you are bad person despite Hillary representing everything you fear politically" level "logic" here. What? How in the world does that follow from what I said? I was simply making the point if Person A does something to appease Person/Group B, Person A is still responsible for that action. Doesn't make sense to blame Person/Group B unless Person A was coerced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:50 PM
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And your bro code level expectations with other men don't have shit to do with women. Most of your problems are still caused by other men. Blaming women doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:37 PM
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You're seriously using the example of ONE female billionaire who oversees the mining industry in a relatively remote country (by population) to damn women as a group? That's ridiculous. What does she even have to do with women in the US or Western Europe? Hell, what does she have to do with women in her own country?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:57 PM
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Adam needs to grow up and stop blaming Eve for his own placating behavior. You don't have to pacify every woman that whines to you about something, you know that right? You can refuse. Edit to add: Some of you RPers want to be men so bad, and you just have no idea. You embody so many of the negative traits you associate with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:23 PM
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A female heiress/billionaire? What about her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:22 PM
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They DONT UNDERSTAND how good they had it. lol at this delusion. How good was it? Tell me. Being sold off to the highest bidder when women in some cultures reached, what, 15? Not being able to open their own bank accounts. Being shown a complete lack of respect for one's opinions, etc. I'm not saying men have it easy. I believe quite the opposite actually. But what I am saying is that men's hardship is predominantly NOT women's fault. Do you want women firing on the front lines with you? Working…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:58 PM
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More lack of accountability. If I do something awful to appease another person, would it be fair for me to say, 'Well, hey I was just trying to make this person happy?' Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:47 PM
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Are you going to ignore the fact that the US population is still 49% male and that not all women are liberal? How do you think our current political cabinet came to be? From women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:46 PM
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At least I've got examples to back it up. All of the RPers here complaining about the shit they have a duty to do as men are duties that predominantly come from other men (building, fighting in wars, risking one's life, etc.). You guys are blaming women by saying they're making those decisions by proxy, which is laughable and reeks of a lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:45 PM
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You don't care about anyone's feelings but your own apparently. You still haven't explained why you're singling out one gender's flaws as the cornerstone for men's problems today. Also, women's kill category is due to weakness? Have you forgotten that for hmm, say, the length of human existence women have been responsible for childrearing and probably couldn't physically afford to go out killing animals and other people? And you keep going with this 'few women' thing as some sort of data point f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:39 PM
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Men can vote too, ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:29 PM
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You're perfectly okay with getting fucked as long as it's a man doing the fucking and not a woman. Christ. It must be good to be a powerful man if the "smallfolk" are in this much denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:04 AM
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A TV show? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:26 AM
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Nope. Purple as hell mostly due to believing that women need to take more responsibility for their actions. But I can't stand when men lack accountability too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:18 AM
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I could ask you in reply - if the majority of oppression has been done by rich and powerful men, then why do the men who are not rich and powerful get called to account for the oppression of women? Why go after all men? I couldn't agree more, and this is a major failure of feminism in my opinion -- demonizing ALL men instead of the ones responsible for whatever the issue happens to be. I personally think the underlying reason is the same -- people go for easy targets and are much more afraid of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:17 AM
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Nothing will work on you not even logic when you insist on blaming one gender over the other. Yes, I saw your passing comment about male leaders, lol. I also saw that you then went on talk about the atrocities committed by TWO female leaders when the ratio of male to female leaders is ridiculously in favor of men. Even when the vast majority of your enemies are men, your attention will gravitate to the handful of women involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:12 AM
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When men hurt men and when women hurt men... Meh. I don't believe this at all. I'm specifically talking about the posters here who blame women for decisions that OTHER men make -- namely saying that male leaders make decisions to satisfy female voters therefore women are to blame. That's insane to me. What about the, ya know, LEADER? You are asking a lot of men, here. This logic implies men have the kind of control to change society at will and they don't. It also implies men deserve the sufferi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 01:10 AM
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That's not the point. The point is that, this is generally established social contract in MOST societies. As such, Men feel they deserve some compensation. It's LITERALLY no different than when women complain about having to be the ones to have babies. Mother Nature chose this shit, so fuck everyone's feelings, BUT, that doesn't mean we can't work together surrounding these problems. Men go off to war, and Women make babies. Also, don't be so daft mate. Now that Women are political beings they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:57 AM
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I'm sorry, but this is embarrassing to read. You're shifting blame from fully grown men to women because you claim those men are trying to please women? Where is the responsibility on MEN to vote and support themselves? Ridiculous. And the fact that you keep referencing the handful of cruel female leaders instead of the considerably larger number of male leaders is quite telling. I stand by my original assertion which is that too many RP men are afraid and too cowardly to call out other men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:55 AM
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Do you realize how pathetic this sounds? A huge chunk of our lives is influenced by the decisions of powerful MALES and you target women because you think they'd do the same? Why not just attack the actually people responsible instead of hypothetical enemies? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:16 AM
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Then why specifically target women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:03 AM
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And? Was life easier for most average men when they were being drafted into war or forced to work in mines by other men? Also, yes, it's true that women have more purchasing power but that doesn't change the fact that it's men who make the vast majority of economic policies. Most of the life threatening circumstances men find themselves in are due to other men making the decision to put them there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 12:03 AM
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How many times is this stupid belief going to be pushed by RPers? There are so many studies showing that the opposite is actually true. Yes, women do depend on men who risk their lives in various ways (soldiers, miners, cops, lumberjacks, etc.) but so do other men. There have been a number of studies that show that men actually suffer from being single in their older years compared to women: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/14/marriage-is-more-beneficial-for-men-than-women-study-shows/…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:07 AM
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LOL. You sound insecure.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/17 09:19 PM
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I agree. I imagine that high n counts are really only emotionally neutral for very few people, including men. But for some reason, folks love to insist that the vast majority of men are unaffected by sleeping with tons of women. I find it hard to believe.
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/17 09:12 PM
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Sounds incesty to me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/17 04:06 AM
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LOL, you'd be surprised by how many folks don't know it. Or, they know it but only theoretically and not in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 03:02 AM
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Doesn't make it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 02:58 AM
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Well, you're obviously free to think that. But cliches aren't necessarily false. And the dismissiveness of it is up to interpretation. The vast majority of issues that people speak about here are due to folks wanting someone else to consistent take care of the internal shit they should be tending to themselves. Men are not responsible for women's emotions and women are not responsible for men's egos. If both sides would realize this and take responsibility accordingly, they wouldn't have these r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/17 02:30 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:51 PM
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There's a lot of play acting at womanhood; recipe swapping, homemaking tips and tricks, basic ass fashion advice, basic ass make up tips, etc. Very general, very shallow, a pastiche of what they think proper, domestic, LTR worthy femininity is. I read RPW somewhat often, and this is so true. Some of the fashion, makeup, and hobby tips are incredibly run of the mill and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:44 PM
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I actually don't think the process will ever stop until you're either very old or dead. However, I do think most people can establish a baseline sense of emotional and/or ego health prior to getting involved in relationships. Sometimes people don't even know how unhealthy they are until they get in a relationship and can play off of an outside party (their partner), but from that point on, it's the person's responsibility to figure out how to fulfill themselves to the best of their ability. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:24 PM
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I do feel like a lot of people are just looking for a parent in the opposite gender that they want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 10:14 PM
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Exactly. What's quoted in the OP sounds like something that would need to occur in arranged marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:55 PM
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What's the point in dying with someone next to you if they don't even love you or are attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:52 PM
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Why can't you have strong men and various women? I just cannot get this obsession with making sure women are weaker than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:09 PM
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I have way more in common with other middle class women and minorities False.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 07:06 PM
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Boo hoo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 10:51 PM
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Interesting to see so many RP comments here that are 'don't care' or some high number.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 02:51 AM
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It's only a non-point to you because you disagree. Careers and relationships are different in terms of the amount of control people have over them. That was my point. And her (Gaga's) point still stands -- a career that you've put time and energy into and have built a set of achievements for can end and you'll still have something to show for it. That's not true for relationships.
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/17 07:18 PM
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It's still not divorce rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 07:16 PM
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As flawed as it is, 'feminism' afforded you the right to own property, to go to school, to earn equal pay for doing equal work, to vote, and to have a voice in society. All of these are AMAZING things. Exactly.
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/17 06:48 PM
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I don't think the Lady Gaga example fits. For one thing, she may not be as popular as she used to be, but she has built a legacy and set of achievements that the vast majority of people don't and will never have. Even if her career did 'wake up and tell her it didn't love her anymore,' she's A) still in it and B) still has made something of her life that wasn't taken away just because her popularity fell off. That's not necessarily true for relationships. I think we all know tons of people who'v…
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/17 06:46 PM
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You're dodging my point though. If what you just described is in fact true for the majority of women (who are, presumably married to men who aren't stinking rich since most men aren't stinking rich), then divorce rape is not nearly as big of a deal as RPers make it out to be. Most women aren't impoverishing men after divorce. It's the women who are being impoverished. The main exceptions are women who are married to the top 5% of men in terms of income, and that's not a whole lot of men. Joe Sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:41 PM
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Men can handle better - or even like - being single than women can. This is not true at all for men 40+. In fact, older single men have a bigger risk of dying and/or committing suicide than men who are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:37 PM
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marriage is a win/win for women and lose/lose for men This myth needs to die. The vast majority of divorced women end up broke. You guys need to stop focusing on the small percentage of celeb marriages that result in a $100M gain for the woman, jesus christ. References: http://www.thelawcorner.com/news/1-5-women-experience-post-divorce-poverty https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/mar/19/divorce-women-risk-poverty-children-relationship https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/25…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:33 PM
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That's not respect, that's weaker attraction No, it's not. It's only 'weaker attraction' to YOU because you view far more women as potential sex partners than women view men as potential sex partners. Associating someone/befriending them is a platonic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:29 PM
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Men are driven by moral restraint in general, far more than women. LOL at this complete and total BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 06:28 PM
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Yes, but RPers (and people who believe in RP theory without necessarily being aware of RP) are a specific set of people who know and COMPLAIN about the perils of divorce rape. If they were practicing what they preach, they would favor pre-nups, as they're not representative of the vast majority of married people (who are, presumably, more BP).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 02:38 AM
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Bro, no woman owes men sex. Get the fuck over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:51 AM
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It's VERY interesting how so many RPers complain about divorce rape and yet the vast majority of RP comments in here are 'married, no pre-nup.' Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:45 AM
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I understand what you're saying, but it's interesting that you've created a post to help people understand the reasons behind cheating when I've never seen a similar guide (not necessarily from you but from anyone) helping cheaters understand the pain they cause and to learn better coping & communication skills to deal with it. Where are all the resources for cheaters to help them organize and deal with the negative emotions or dissatisfaction that leads to cheating? Where are their guides to un…
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/17 10:33 PM
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Why are there not men like you and the others that post in RPW in MRP and RP? Why is M/RP completely bitter and reactionary, why is there not a large more rational group of male RP's like the guy that writes The Family Alpha? I've wondered the same, and I think part of it is because women are more focused on relationship issues in general, especially young women.
/r/RedPillWomen09/06/17 09:22 PM
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Ambitious Hardworking Intensely protective of and in love with me Loyal/Monogamous Self-respecting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 08:06 AM
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He said that he would try but only if it doesn't break "the mood"." Yikes.
/r/RedPillWomen26/05/17 09:20 PM
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and doesnt claim to base itself on "scientific sources". Yes, it does. Are you kidding? I've seen tons of RPers claim to have the right idea compared to BPers non-biological approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:59 PM
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leather spinster What's this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:54 AM
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For the woman, marriage is a good deal generally; for the man, not so much. But funnily enough, married men tend to be happier than married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:48 AM
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No, loss of sexual attraction/chemistry IS the "deeper, emotional issue" What kind of men do you spend your time around? In the past 6 months, I've had two coworkers break up their LTRs because the WOMAN in the relationship had poor financial planning. And yes, the women were making much less than the men. You seem to have a low and basic opinion of most people if you really think the source of relationship troubles is always sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:44 AM
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So? And a man can get commitment much more easily than a girl. Each sex can easily get something the other cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:39 AM
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I think a lot of TRPers that complain about how hard it is for men to get sex have overly high standards, which is funny since they claim women have too high standards. It's very easy nowadays for a man to work some game on a girl he met online to get sex and leave her. I hear constant stories online from women who've had this happen to them. Frankly, I think men are hypergamous too in a visual way. Most want a thin, blonde girl with model looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:34 AM
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It's medically and biologically impossible for women to be as strong or as aggressive of men. This is a biological fact and should not be challenged so much here. Why does it matter so much that women aren't as aggressive as men? The point is that female aggression exists period. I see your later comments about denying science, but sometimes you TRPers are so gung-ho about generalities and overwhelming trends that you miss the point. There is a male-style of aggression and there is a female-styl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:51 PM
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Also to many women what kind of man they're dating is heavily influenced by how their girlfriends think about him. This is true for men too. It's why so many men idealize women who they can show off as status symbols to other men -- supermodels, super hot women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:46 PM
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LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:43 PM
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But men love feminine women This is not true. Men might like to look at and screw feminine women and yeah, make them the mothers of their children, but I have a hard time believing that men respect femininity. Feminine traits are often demonized by both genders. I just started a discussion thread about this on PPD actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 02:29 AM
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The likelihood of anyone in this generation being drafted for war is very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 01:07 AM
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From what I've read, some women in various US states were allowed to vote in some local elections. In other states, voting was exclusively male. I'm not sure about other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 12:39 AM
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How do you know that the majority of those people didn't consider it oppression? And how do you know women didn't want to vote, especially when they went to such great lengths to get it at one point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:00 PM
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Interesting. I really appreciate this comment, and I agree with a lot of it. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 05:02 PM
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My post specifically mentioned the past. I'm not talking about the present day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 05:00 PM
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A lot of RPers worship Chad too, lol. They want to be just like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 04:37 PM
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This is because masculinity is considered 'better' and more desirable than femininity, despite what traditionalists and conservatives will tell you. It's expected that men are masculine and it's relatively acceptable for a woman to be a bit masculine, but men who are feminine are reviled. As much as people talk a good game about the importance of femininity, they don't respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:18 AM
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You talk about single mothers as if the vast majority of them deliberately choose single motherhood. Even if there are women who do that, are they even the majority? I'm sure there are far more men who abandon their families than there are women who opt for single motherhood like it's some kind of great option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 06:15 AM
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lol
/r/RedPillWomen21/05/17 02:10 AM
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Sorry to hear about your friend, but your personal anecdote doesn't mean that pregnancy in one's early 30's is inherently risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:29 PM
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which portrays women as defective men, that only masculine qualities are positive. It's disingenuous to imply that it's mainly feminists who believe this. I agree that many feminists have taken a negative view of femininity, but let's not pretend like men have a high opinion of feminine qualities outside of what women do for them (looking attractive, sex, nurturing, etc.). There are just as many men who devalue feminine traits and see them as less than masculine qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 07:00 PM
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I would be able to maintain attraction taking the lead (I'm a woman btw) IF the man was still hardworking and self-sufficient. I think the main issue with having a bigger say in relationships is that some men take that as an excuse to slack off and be taken care of. I don't want to be his Mom; I simply want more say in major decisions -- i.e. equal partnership vs. captain/first mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 06:57 PM
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Maybe some women are like this, but I don't think a man 'keeping her in check' and being equal to her are mutually exclusive. If a man has a strong sense of integrity and boundaries, he will naturally be assertive and keep her in check. That doesn't mean he has to be the authority in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 08:38 PM
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What is NOMA?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 06:44 AM
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Not every woman is looking for the ultimate Chad. Look around. RPers have the exact same issue as the women they complain about: too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:37 AM
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I'm sure there are plenty of women with similar complaints on r/ForeverAloneWomen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 01:09 AM
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Because women having low libidos or lack of sex is not cause enough for men to traffic or rape them. What is it going to take for some of y'all to understand that forcing people into sex is no bueno?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 11:14 PM
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for this comment. Christ. EDIT: Your wisdom is much appreciated!
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 05:06 PM
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Actually, I just read a bit more and it sounds like they both made conservative comments. Miss D.C. called herself an 'equalist' and said that healthcare was a privilege as well.
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 05:02 PM
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My grandson will be 2 in August. My son will be 2 in November Wow! Congrats on both. If you don't mind my asking, did you have any complications with a relatively late pregnancy?
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 04:58 PM
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Wait, what? I thought it was the winner Miss D.C. who said that healthcare was a privilege?
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 04:57 PM
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In this community, we generally accept women as being the gate keepers of sex. This, if our culture seems sex-obsessed it's the fault of women How does the second sentence here follow from the first?
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/17 12:59 AM
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I could say the same about you though. You immediately accused OP of reacting emotionally simply because she disagreed with the concept of the Wall. You don't seem to be discussing things in good faith.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/17 11:26 PM
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Something about being dominated in real, daily life just irks the hell out of me. There is something very attractive about an ambitious, confident man, but not one who feels the need to do the reverse of the current situation in Taiwan you just described. I don't know -- I wouldn't want someone to show me the world; I'd want them to accompany me while I explore it.
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 11:46 PM
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I don't think coders will. Someone will always need to program and create the robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:37 PM
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Hmmm, this is exactly what I want, lol. How old are you if you don't mind my asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:10 PM
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This comment displays your bias so strongly. But I'm glad you mentioned it because it demonstrates an underlying lack of respect that RPers often have for the woman's end of the bargain. All throughout TRP you hear this BS about how feminists have made women despise womanly duties and how men have always appreciated what women bring to the table, and here we see an example of what at least one of you (and I assume there are more TRPers who would agree with your sentiment) really thinks. Home res…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 10:17 PM
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I think we're gonna need some specific examples to get to the heart of the conflict here. What you're saying is fine, but the same can be said for men. Men need women to bear and raise children. Since they need that, they need to make a deal with women to provide for those children without strong-arming women into the home and limiting their options through the law (because yes, just like women are using the state to 'steal' men's wealth, men have also used the state to prevent women from doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 10:09 PM
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You are not entitled to the benefits of male's responsibility in society simply because you are responsible in another arena (the home in your example, whatever that means). You receive those benefits in exchange for the man having authority over you. Huh? But that IS the exchange in traditional partnerships. Why is a woman required to give the man authority over her? He takes care of work outside the home to bring home money, she takes care of the home and children -- that's the exchange. If it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 10:04 PM
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LOL at this whiny, cop-out, passive answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:33 PM
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Women don't need to understand men to attract them. But once again, you're thinking of everything in terms of attraction. A woman's challenge isn't attraction, it's commitment. And a woman does need to understand men if she wants him to commit to her for the longterm. This is a perfect example of what OP is talking about where men view women through a male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:31 PM
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Funny because this is often what I think of RPers in this scenario. It sounds like bad faith to me to complain about bias in custody battles when most men have no intention of being primary or really even joint caregivers. It seems disingenuous as hell, especially when you read many TRP posts about how men are not natural caregivers, are naturally oriented toward work, achievement, and hard guidance (as opposed to the softer love women provide, etc.). If all this is true, then wouldn't it make p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:23 PM
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Are men banned from receiving custody of their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:19 PM
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If men are willing to trade equal power and responsibility in society with equal power and responsibility in the home, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:18 PM
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Women are also responsible for almost all childrearing done in the US. It's only relatively recently that women have started working outside the home while also being primary caregivers (which, funnily enough, a lot of RPers decry). I'm not sure why women needing the general output of men's labor is always hung over their heads. Should women have babies, raise them, and work themselves to death too while men just work? It's not like women have depended on men to supply them with money for makeup…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:17 PM
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A man CAN choose to have less responsibility if he wants (i.e. drop out of the labor force, etc.).Women are not often able to get more responsibility even if they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:20 AM
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But I'm not arguing whether a 40 year old woman has the same prospects at 40 as she did at 20. Of course she doesn't. That's not the point. What I'm saying is that despite all the claims about men's preferences for younger women, a man is STILL more likely to end with a woman in his age range (but younger by about 5 years or so) than with a woman who's 22. A woman who's 40 should seek divorced men (I assume they're divorced since most men have their first marriage long before 40) who are around …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 12:15 AM
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I could get down with that for sure. But again, I think the courts should consider the kind of setup children would be under if the father had sole custody. The reason I brought up nannies and stepmoms wasn't to demonize all men but to show that because of men's nature (i.e. not natural caregivers), it's highly likely that a man who receives full custody will effectively turn his children over to nannies or have a girlfriend or new wife care for them. And then you have to wonder: is that a bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 11:04 PM
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I'm not sure what kind of princesses you're surrounded by, but nearly all of the women I know are educated working women. Even the ones who are married with children are working (after taking some time off for maternity leave).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 11:00 PM
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But I have to ask: if you compared the number and type of men who showed interest when you were, say, 19, would they be the same today? Most 19 year old women are not interested in marriage and children unless they live in a developing nation or a super conservative or traditional state. So a larger pool of men at age 19 is irrelevant. Who the hell would chain themselves to a man at that age?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:56 PM
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But miss 32 ? She's still hooter than miss 40. And now he's got a good shot. Her egg timer is ticking. And, well, miss 35. She's happy to have him. Mr 40. Her egg timer is going brriiiiiiiiiiing briiiiiiiiiiing and she is still closer to his ideal than you. This...still seems irrelevant? So basically, a 40 year old man is likely to end up with a woman who's 32-35? That doesn't seem nearly as dramatic as TRP makes it sound. If that's the case, then a 40 year old woman should simply look to dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:53 PM
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But even with all of that, most men still marry within their age range. At least for their first marriage. How often do you see men in their 30's married to women in their early to mid-20's? Or men in their 40's married to women 25-30? The vast majority of men marry women who are within a 5 year difference in age. Saying that men prefer younger despite marrying women in their age range seems like splitting hairs. There's a very high likelihood that, say, a 50 year old divorcee is going to go for…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:50 PM
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Some men never fail to come up with the craziest reasons to explain why everything should be their way and women just need to accept it. Yeesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:40 PM
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That's unfortunate, but for every personal anecdote likes yours, there's at least one where the man was a control freak and flat-out refused to see his children due to his upset at the relationship ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:38 PM
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If a man willingly enters a traditional relationship where he is the breadwinner and his wife's job is to stay home and care for the house and children, then that is what he signed up for as a man. If a man isn't married or in a relationship where he agreed to that kind of set up, then what I'm saying doesn't apply to him. With that said, there are many men in the RP sphere who have argued for the traditional setup for marriages (even though, yes, many of them don't want to get married themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:36 PM
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By this logic, neither men nor women would know how the opposite gender thinks. That still doesn't stop either the BP or RP from purporting to know or coming up with their own theories. If you're a man, how do you know what women think?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:32 PM
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Ok. I will remember this the next time someone blames a woman for choosing the wrong man as the reason for her relationship failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:30 PM
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Men view children differently than women do. They love them differently. This is a typical RP cop-out answer. You want to have your cake and eat it too -- always wanting power and control but only with a certain kind of responsibility because you're a maaan and men do things differently. If men view children the way you describe, then consistent visitation rights in the event of divorce should be enough. There are men working 60-80 hours a week in committed marriages who are still somehow able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:29 PM
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That's fine, but I've seen multiple posts on RP and RPW that disagree and think the traditional setup of 'man works, woman stays at home' is the ideal one -- at least until the children are in school. Even then, it can be difficult for a woman to find a job with the kind of flexibility that would allow her to work until it's time to pick the children up from school or whatever activities they're in. Also, there are tons of posts on RP with men decrying anything a woman does outside of marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:23 PM
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LOL, I would love to see a law mandating that men receive primary custody in all cases if just for the entertainment that would ensure afterwards. Men for the most part are not caregivers. Period. Even RP agrees with this. The fact that you'd even use that as an example shows the spiteful attitude I'm talking about. But yeah, have at it. Force every divorced mother to give up her children to the father and see what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:20 PM
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It's THEIR children, the woman should have no power to restrict access of the father's time with his children Fine, but my point is that IF men had unrestricted access to their children, it would often amount to A) weekend visits, or B) partial custody with nannies and/or a stepmom. Men, by and large, are not caregivers. Even RP agrees with this. Men cry about losing their children, but then gloss over the fact that any access they would have towards their children would amount to no more than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:18 PM
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Yea, most men don't have the time to raise their kids alone because they bust their asses at work I understand this, but that's man's inherent tradeoff in traditional relationships: he works, she stays at home and cares for the children. It's very difficult for one person to do both. If he can't be a sole guardian or even joint guardian because he works too much, then those are the breaks. More importantly, those are the breaks he signed up for as a man. Men who complain about 'losing their chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:15 PM
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he fears the lionesses neglect without his guidance will fail his legacy This is a problem. Maybe he should pick a better lioness?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:10 PM
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A lot of men ARE upset at the new set of circumstances they have to deal with as a consequence of women having more power, yes. Now that women are no longer as dependent on men for money as they used to be, they can afford to build their lives around something other than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:09 PM
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If a woman has dropped out of the workforce to stay home and care for a man's home and children, she deserves alimony if they ever divorce. He benefitted from her emotional and physical labor, so he should pay if the relationship ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 10:01 PM
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I don't understand why 50/50 split custody with no child support is not a thing I think this is something that could work for couples that have the same set up your parents had. But there are a lot of couples who have more 'unequal' set ups where the man is mainly working and the woman either stays home or works part-time. In the latter cases, it would be detrimental to both the woman and the children if she's thrown back into the work force after agreeing to stay home to care for the children w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:47 PM
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Yeah no shit haha most men want unrestricted access to their children and a say in how they are raised. Men are too career focused. So then why complain about 'losing the children' if they're not even with the woman anymore? Men are often so career focused that they only see their kids at night anyway. With visitation rights, they can get a near identical set of face time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:44 PM
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Can you please tell me what has made Kim Kardashian famous other than her ass and sex tape? But do you also realize how rare it is for someone like Kim to get famous in the first place? People often reference Kim's fame because it's not like there are a ton of women getting as famous as her off of her ass and a sex tape. Can you even name another woman at her level of success that has done the same thing? (and with no other talent). That's like saying that Oprah and Michelle Obama prove that all…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:19 PM
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My taxes pay for women whoring around and "poor oppressed minorities" for their welfare You're not the only one who pays taxes, bro. The women who whore around and oppressed minorities pay taxes too. And the vast majority of people on welfare are white.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:13 PM
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Using shit 2 generations away to defend shitty actions by feminists to men who have known nothing but this third wave feminist dystopia does not work one bit So? A lot of women are trying to avoid the shitty hands their mothers and grandmothers were dealt. No, the current generation of men isn't responsible for what happened in the past, but that doesn't mean that women should simply accept their old roles, especially if it means the same cycle will repeat itself (i.e women being confined to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:12 PM
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Having less rights as a consequence of having less responsibilities? Were women ever given the option to have more responsibilities? You keep repeating this like women unequivocally chose their lot in life back then. There's a reason why women have sacrificed their lives for more rights and more responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:09 PM
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They're over-invest attempting to cash in on a feeding frenzy. But don't understand the cards aren't in their favor. Wouldn't most women actually be better off building their own character then? Outside of men & relationships? If what you're saying is true, then it seems almost better for a girl to work a bit, save some money, marry a 'beta' (if she wants kids), and then let the rest go or try to find some extra fulfillment/meaning elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 06:18 AM
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Men have underground cults trying to figure out how to make women like them and go in shooting sprees when they can't figure it out. But this doesn't men that men are attempting to understand women. They're attempting to figure out what they need to do to get a woman to sleep with them, and that's about it. Doesn't mean they care about the woman or what's she's going through.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:46 PM
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Well, it used to be the other way around, right? The worm always turns.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:47 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:38 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:01 AM
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Other than the standard complaint of not being able to easily date super-rich ultra-handsome hunks, what obstacles do black women actually face? A lot of it comes down to stereotypes. Whether she fits it or not, a black woman will probably have to fight down stereotypes of being loud, ghetto, uncultured, uneducated, etc. before she even opens her mouth to speak. There was also a study done on an online dating site (I think it was OkCupid) that showed that men responded back to black women the le…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:00 AM
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I understand that, but my point is that that's not true for all women. In many ways, black women are judged as harshly by the opposite sex as men are judged by women. Not for the exact same traits of course, but there's a huge hurdle that black women specifically have to overcome (mainly super negative stereotypes) that white, Asian, Latina, etc. women don't. And it's not something that can be solved by just being willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 11:50 PM
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I really don't think this is true. Women -- especially some black women -- still have to deal with racial limits. For every guy on PPD and TRP who says any woman can get sex at any time, there's a single black woman who has heard 'I'm not into black girls' for the 24509458490th time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 05:26 PM
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I disagree with half of your statement. I do think boys need strong male role models in their lives. However, single parenthood is not inherently negative, especially if the parent is financially stable. The biggest issue most single mothers have is that they're poor! And with poverty comes unstable neighborhoods, long working hours away from your kid, poor financial literacy, etc. All these things compound on each other to make life even more difficult than it needs to be. Obviously, it's not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 08:22 PM
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You know what my memories of her consisted of? Her studying. Yup. I'm not the only one with a similar story, either. In fact, every woman I've met in my mom's generation is batshit crazy thanks to feminism and pretty much everyone my age hates their mom. So why are we making the same exact mistakes over again? But for the eight millionth time, your experiences and the experiences of women in your cohort do not necessarily represent all women. My mother was a SAHM and often expressed regret at no…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 04:34 PM
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You're incorrectly deducing that it's a woman's specific focus on higher education that causes spoiled children. Do you realize there are other ways to screw up parenthood?
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 04:27 PM
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How old are you and where are you from?
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 04:26 PM
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I was just brainwashed into thinking the ideal woman is one who makes a ton of money and has all these "degrees" when none of that really matters. The friends I'm discussing are still stuck in that mindset. But again, you seem to have an issue with projecting your own experiences onto other people. Let's say that your friends do in fact suffer from overvaluing degrees and money. So what? That's their problem and an issue THEY have to deal with. It doesn't mean that valuing degrees and money is i…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 04:25 PM
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But it is in some senses. The suffragettes did things like participate in hunger strikes, they refused to return to their home (effectively leaving their husbands for a short time), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:42 PM
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They tend to be more empathetic and sensitive to other people's feelings, they tend to care for the weak and ailing, and they're often good community builders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:34 PM
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A lot of folks have already mentioned complaining and being unmotivated. I would also add men with ego issues who insist on being obeyed like leaders despite not having any leadership skills or any evidence of their worthiness as a leader. A lot of (not all) TRPers are like this. It's like they can't be a leader in the outside world so they want a woman to step aside and allow them (lol) to lead at home. Reminds me of a comment made to Joffrey on Game of Thrones: "Any man who must say 'I am the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:32 PM
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This is a non-answer on your part. Why don't you address that user's actual point instead of taking the easy way out by simply accusing them of being offended? Throughout this post and on your blog, you seem to assume most women are like your friends and/or that the remedy to their issues is the same remedy to your friends' issues.
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/17 02:01 PM
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I have become very distant & intolerant & empty because of it. I feel ya there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:13 AM
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Where were you born out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:12 AM
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people assume men are child molesters People don't assume men are child molesters. They assume most child molesters are men. And most child molesters are in fact men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:09 AM
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Lol, you really don't want to address his point, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 03:06 AM
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I agree. A perfect example of this is their notion that high value/high status men will choose young, gorgeous models (regardless of her income) to marry because high value men with a range of options will obviously go for the 'best' he can get. Yet, men at all income levels overwhelmingly choose to marry women from within their own class -- and even though men do tend to marry women younger than them, the women are not THAT much younger. For instance, the vast majority of billionaires -- which,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:04 AM
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Do such girls actually have a passion for being wives and mothers, though, or is it simply less painful than flogging insurance or having your copy raked over by steely-eyed editors? Hmm. YES. Thank you for this perspective.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 06:54 PM
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The real problem I see here is that many people drift through life aimlessly, or just follow a prescribed path that they've been assured will lead to success and happiness (and then are disappointed when it doesn't). Sometimes you have to dig deep and even go against the grain to do what you're meant to do in this world! It isn't always easy, but it's worth it, IMO. Quoting for emphasis.
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 06:52 PM
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Why do people seem to think that the one and only thing a woman can do in life is have children? You can have a fulfilling a career, pursue a hobby, travel, read, etc. etc. and still have children. You might not be able to do all of those things at the exact same time, but you can still do them. I also don't understand why everything needs a purely practical purpose. Can't a woman work at a job because she enjoys it? My own mother extolled the benefits of being a SAHM but even she regretted not …
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 06:50 PM
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Why do people seem to think that the one and only thing a woman can do in life is have children? You can have a fulfilling a career, pursue a hobby, travel, read, etc. etc. and still have children. You might not be able to do all of those things at the exact same time, but you can still do them. I also don't understand why everything needs a purely practical purpose. Can't a woman work at a job because she enjoys it? My own mother extolled the benefits of being a SAHM but even she regretted not …
/r/RedPillWomen03/05/17 06:50 PM
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...But aren't they still passing their genes onto the enemy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:57 PM
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What privilege do black people have?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:38 PM
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Even though white men get longer prison sentences for equal crimes than black women. Stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:34 PM
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Without relationships. Unless you're broke or trying to raise kids, I don't see the point of relationships if you're not attracted to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:28 PM
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Women's choices are no longer filtered by their parents so they often spend their youth as plates of the most attractive men. I don't see this behavior as often as people claim it exists. Maybe amongst the sorority crowd back in college, but most of the super attractive women I've known are either married by 30 or in serious LTRs. They may have had a few boyfriends before meeting and marrying their husbands, but I wouldn't describe their prior relationships as being 'plates.' They were monogamou…
/r/RedPillWomen02/05/17 09:20 PM
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When you got a woman with a BMI of 35 with a dude whose BMI is below 20, the game is fucked. Where the fuck do you see this happening? lol. A lean dude in a committed relationship with a woman whose BMI is 35? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 03:06 AM
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You don't see a male equivalent of this First of all, I've seen that lady you've linked to, but calling her a celebrity is a stretch. She's a C-level model at best, and the vast majority of her popularity is with the Tumblr crowd. On the contrary, there are plenty of overweight and/or ugly male celebrities who are actually mainstream, household names who are often cast in big budget movies and/or have huge followings: Jonah Hill, Steve Buscemi, Ron Perlman (I personally don't think he's ugly at …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:57 PM
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the achievement will always be tainted and seen as less because of my appearance You cannot be serious with this. One of the main benefits to being a man is that a man's achievements CAN overrule his looks. A highly successful yet ugly man can have women fawning all over him. Women don't get that benefit at all. What highly accomplished, yet ugly women do you see with men rushing after them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:11 PM
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A popular guy isn't going to get ripped for his weight no matter what But this isn't true for women. A fat woman is pretty much considered undesireable and worthless whether she finds her way to popularity or not. Examples: Rebel Wilson, Gabourey Sidibe, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:07 PM
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it's just not the same as having an actual social circle. This is interesting. To clarify, do you think the people you encountered would have been happier if they had more friends? (as opposed to spouses, kids, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 10:02 PM
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The problem with scenarios like this is that the boss could easily proposition the employee for sex and then potentially negatively affect the employee's career if the boss's advances are rejected. It's not fair to the employee. Same thing with teacher-student relationships where the teacher has the power to adversely affect the student's grades, access to various in-school opportunities, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 09:59 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 09:57 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 09:57 PM
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A man who is 5'2 is instantly judged by everyone. So is a woman who's 6ft and above. And most men aren't 5'2, just like most women aren't above 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:43 PM
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I don't believe this for a second. Men can be fat, sloppy, bald, etc. and still have LTR/marriages with good-looking women. A woman who is fat, sloppy, bald, etc. is only getting her male equivalent at best. Also: Just about every study out there will prove that women judge men very harshly for: Height, Race; and Status. Men don't. This is how I know most people on TRP aren't black.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 07:38 PM
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I did some volunteering with old people at one point and feeling lonely was the top thing that bothered them. Virtually all of them had kids, many were married to spouses who were still alive, but they still had no contact with the outside world and none of their kids saw them on a regular basis. The isolation bothered them more than anything else in most cases. I mentioned this part of your comment in a response to someone else above. This is what I don't understand -- lots of people espouse ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:46 AM
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But this is what I don't understand -- aren't most of the lonely people in old folks' homes parents and spouses? Someone just commented on this thread saying that many of the old people they encountered who were suffering from loneliness had children and grandchildren who simply didn't visit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 12:45 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:33 PM
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This is true, but most women end up alone in their final years anyway. They somehow manage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 10:16 PM
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Probably somewhere in the late teens, early 20's. I don't know what woman in her right mind would get pregnant that early anyhow -- or what man would be willing to bear the brunt of supporting the 19 year old mother of his children, especially if he's young himself. I don't get the obsession with fertility. It doesn't really start to become a problem until 35 anyway (40 is the 'now or never' point according to some OB-GYNs), and the vast majority of women have their first child BEFORE 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:33 PM
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There are plenty of non-white women who are ignored regularly by the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:17 PM
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the following day is rape because she wasn't awake when it started. Why is it so hard for you to understand that maybe she just didn't want to have sex a second time, especially unconscious? I don't get why this is incomprehensible. A person can be okay with someone touching them at time x and not okay with it at time y. It's their body; they can revoke consent at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:10 PM
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Let's hope they don't use their dodgy sense of consent on you then. I hope you're a strong gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:07 PM
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Her: "Oh, that was complete bullshit, I like when a guy forces himself on me." These kinds of arrangements need to be discussed though. Point blank. Yes, there's a range of human sexual expression, and unfortunately for some of you, part of that range is criminal under the law. If you want to hook up with a chick who's okay with being forced, then discuss that with her and have at it. But you're still vulnerable to the law and could get in trouble if she presses charges. Them's the breaks. No on…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 07:05 PM
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Because she agreed to have sex so quickly with him he's 'thinking' she's a sexual freak and would be down for more freaky shit like unconscious sex, anal, etc. Bro, this is the problem! And that's why consent workshops were created in the first place, lmao. Whether men think about sex differently or not doesn't matter -- you cannot assume that just because a woman is willing to do A with you means that she's automatically down for B, especially if B is a crime (i.e. unconscious sex). A lot of yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:55 PM
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but is it really a stretch to think that if it was granted 8 hours ago it would be granted again? ...yes? Why would you assume a woman you had sex with at 7AM is automatically up for it again at 4? (or any time later that night). Obviously, asking her isn't a problem, but why straight up assume someone would screw you again?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:52 PM
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Well meaning guys don't need workshops to tell them not to have sex with unconscious people. Only creepy losers need that. This is one of the biggest misconceptions that TRPers have: that there are 'good' guys and 'bad' guys, and it's mainly bad guys that commit crimes like this. You're removing the possibility that a 'well-meaning' guy could do something abhorrent -- as if only bad and ill-intentioned people do bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 06:46 PM
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your primary relationship comes first. Your kids come second. What the hell? Why should a romantic relationship come before one's kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 04:38 AM
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So many of your RP men are just looking for slaves. Why not get a mail order bride and improve the life of an extremely poor woman somewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 12:24 AM
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I've seen that claim on TRP, but it's not supported by what data there is. I've mainly seen stats from UK and Australian news sources, but from what I've read, single older women tend to be happier than single older men. I think single older men are also at a higher risk of suicide than women.
/r/RedPillWomen28/04/17 11:07 AM
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There is a way for a woman to be an Alpha female/dominant, but it's not necessarily in the same way a man is. I used to think of Alpha women as the Queen Bee types who were usually super popular and/or manipulative and cliquish. But now I think of Alpha women as those who have a kind of quiet strength and confidence. They CAN be feminine but sometimes they have more of a gender-neutral or gender-irrelevant air to them. But they almost always have a solid sense of confidence and self-acceptance. …
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/17 11:40 PM
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ll the way to women who were happy to have me hole swap Ummmmm...but isn't this actually unsafe? I don't know if this should count as a typical permissiveness example.
/r/RedPillWomen18/04/17 05:52 PM
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My point was to show how intelligence can lead to higher highs than beauty. You might be right that skill doesn't get someone to billionaire status or a management or executive position, but neither does beauty. In fact, my main argument is that intelligence is more likely to get you those things than beauty. There is a baseline, above average level of intelligence required to be a billionaire or a CEO. But notice how a lot of those people are average to below average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 12:18 AM
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Also, it depends on what outcome you're looking for, OP. I've read through a couple of your comments here, and if your only concern is attracting people and being popular, then yeah, being good-looking is key. However, when you say it's better to be beautiful in this world in general, that's where I disagree. I think you have to be smart to reach the highest of the highs outside of personal and sexual relationships. The most successful people in this world, especially in terms of money and busin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 12:14 AM
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How many attractive billionaires do you see? Hell, how many attractive multi-millionaires do you see that aren't in entertainment? Beauty isn't everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 12:06 AM
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I disagree because intelligence is the one trait that you need to maximize the value you get from any other trait. There are tons of beautiful men and women who never get anywhere -- or at least no further than an average looking person -- despite all the advantages and opportunities in the world. The entertainment industry is full of them. You have to be smart to make the best of your beauty and maintain the riches (wealth and emotional) that might come with it. EDIT: clarity
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 12:04 AM
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I totally agree with you, and I've noticed the same thing. I suppose it makes sense in a way since historically marriage was done more often for economic reasons rather than love. But in general, I think that high earning women probably have less of a need for marriage unless they want children. If she does want to be a mom and is temporarily stepping away from a high-earning career, then yeah, I can imagine it would be a lot harder for her to submit to someone else. Then again, there are some f…
/r/RedPillWomen14/04/17 10:55 PM
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Not to my knowledge. I think she has been in a LTR with Stedman Graham for a few decades.
/r/RedPillWomen13/04/17 07:55 PM
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Taylor seems like the type of person to put up a RPW-esque front or cultivate an image of a RP woman, but I have a feeling she's much more dominant in her personal relationships. I can't see her submitting to a man in any way or allowing him to take the lead on, well, anything. I could see her leading a somewhat traditional lifestyle later in her 30s and beyond. Maybe a few kids and a husband, etc. Or she could go the extreme other direction and live more of an Oprah-esque lifestyle with the bes…
/r/RedPillWomen13/04/17 07:32 PM
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A+ comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 08:14 PM
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I don't think women want to be exactly the same as men. However, I do think there needs to be more respect for 'female roles.' Growing up, I struggled with femininity because it always seemed so devalued compared to masculinity despite people swearing up and down that women needed to be feminine. There seemed to be constant mixed messages around that. For example, I think that more service/caring jobs need to be paid higher wages. I understand that men's jobs tend to be more dangerous and specia…
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 06:36 PM
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From my perspective, it seems like they treat the 'long-term' guys more seriously. They generally act less frivolously around them if that makes sense. But then again, I think their behavior is also heavily influenced by the environment in which they tend to meet and interact with long term vs short term guys. The hot, 'short term' guys are/were generally the guys they partied with or met online. The 'long term' guys for the most part seem to be guys they choose more for compatibility and for th…
/r/RedPillWomen11/04/17 06:15 PM
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Well, you and I know different people then. I know plenty of women making six figure salaries who are able to enjoy themselves alone and with friends. They're social, they travel, they have hobbies, etc. On the flip side, I've known plenty of miserable married women (some with kids, some not) who were hopped up on different anti-depressants or anti-anxiety meds, in therapy, or otherwise needy and co-dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 02:59 AM
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As a superior moral being, he is the only one who could play that role. You have got to be kidding with this one...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:22 AM
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You don't know what a woman's proper role is, bro. You only know what YOU want. And it's funny that you're bringing this up on a comment thread about women becoming doctors. Women have been healers and 'medicine women' for YEARS prior to any kind of mainstream feminist thought. If there's any role that women could fill while still being mothers, it's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:19 AM
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Boom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:14 AM
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This just isn't true, and I feel like RPers promote this idea because it justifies their line of thinking. Women tend to value relationships according to their own socio-economic status. The more financial wealth a woman has, the better she's able to to handle solitude. People are forgetting that for the longest time, marriage was done for ECONOMIC reasons. It's only relatively recently that men and women married for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:12 AM
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Then why was society so focused on keeping both of them in line? I've always wondered this myself! If women are so much less likely to step out of line, why is the vast majority of social shaming directed towards women and not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:10 AM
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Feminine/masculine traits in partners will become less important as gender roles evaporate. Shared interests and life goals will take their place. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 08:48 PM
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there will likely be a resurgence of traditionalism and stay at home housewives I agree with this. Every force is one direction causes a reaction of some sort. I don't know if traditionalism will ever be as 'mainstream' as it used to be, but I do think we'll see strong niche groups of people who want traditional lifestyles. In general, I think we're just moving towards a more fractured society where people aren't IMPELLED to live a particular lifestyle. You can have more freedom or less, commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 08:47 PM
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I'm 'feminine' in the sense that I'm really into artsy things -- writing, making music, visual design, etc. I won't say I'm particularly good at any of those things, lol, but I definitely see a lot of inherent value in art and opportunities for personal growth since I can be really perfectionistic and self-critical when it comes to my own creations. Other than that, I also really enjoy fashion, beauty, and cooking. I'm on a weight loss journey right now, so I can finally wear the clothes I want,…
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/17 08:32 PM
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I don't know where people in the red pill get this idea that there are loads of 8s, 9s and 10s walking around. Really, how many women are supermodels? Exactly, but I've realized that people online tend to have different scales for 'regular folk' than for celebrities, models, etc. I live in Los Angeles where there are TONS of beautiful women, and it's still relatively rare to see women in the 8-10 range unless you're at the beach, in a young/hip area on the weekend, or at a casting call. I feel l…
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/17 08:19 PM
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I've always thought the same! In fact, some of the women in my family encouraged this -- sleep with men you find physically attractive (using protection of course) but marry someone who's actually good marriage material. This phenomenon of women sleeping with good-looking guys, wanting to marry them, but then settling with a beta because they're too old/unattractive for the good-looking guy is only something I've seen on Reddit. Even my current female friends choose from one set of guys when the…
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/17 08:16 PM
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Women have the premise of being inherently valuable. A woman can become more valuable by managing what she already has, she need not accomplish anything new to create value, she just needs to manage and accentuate the value she already has. Overall, I agree with you, but this part in particular isn't necessarily true for all women unfortunately, especially when it comes to things like race. EDIT: Also, definitely not saying I agree. Just pointing it out.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/17 08:07 PM
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This thought experiment made me realize that not only can lack of maturity be a good thing, it's actually a gift men give us. Men want to protect us from maturity, the same way society wants to protect that child from maturity. What...the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 12:40 AM
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Why do they need a man to let them be childlike? Just...be childlike. The more I read RP and RPW theories, the more I realize how many of these women just straight up want to be children no matter how mature they try to spin themselves. It's like they're looking for surrogate fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 12:36 AM
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There is always a dom and always a sub. There is always a leader and always a follower. This is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:28 PM
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There have been tons of threads on this subreddit where people express their confusion over the submissive vs. the leader thing. I posted here about it myself because it's confusing as hell. And interestingly enough, I've noticed that men and women describe submissiveness differently. Men describe situations that are more indicative of the woman DEFERRING to him and doing it often, whereas women (whether they identify as RPW or not) describe submissiveness in a way that sounds much more equitabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:06 PM
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The ideal is one where if one person can't decide on something or wants to take the backseat, the other one will take the lead, and if the one usually in the lead doesn't feel capable of doing that one day, they can rely on the other one to help out. A lot of RPers seem to use scenarios like this as an example of 'submission,' but this actually sounds more like a BP-esque equal partnership. There have been a few posts in this sub about it. It's weird, when men say they want a submissive wife, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:01 PM
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My thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 10:54 PM
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My question is, are men justified in looking out for their own self interests? Men have always done this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:54 AM
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that people date within their race here in LA This is not true, ESPECIALLY for LA. I see mixed race couples all the time. Where are you spending most of your time in the city? lol
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:24 PM
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Agree on West Hollywood, but Hollywood has its fair share of more modest, working-to-middle class men nowadays (assuming the OP is telling the truth that she's not super picky). Same for the eastside hipster areas like Echo Park and Silverlake -- I doubt many of the older guys there are only dealing with 10/10 supermodels.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:21 PM
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I'm white and 1/4 latina (I just look exotic) but have dated all races. I really don't mean this in a negative way, but have you tried dating black men?
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:17 PM
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There are also a lot of conservatives who pretend to be liberal, which I find to be a little weird. LOL. I live in LA, and this is very true.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 09:00 PM
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Hmm, actually I responded to one of your other comments before seeing this one and an earlier one from crimsonrpw. I also wonder now if your looks are working against you. You say you attract shallow men, but if you look like a model yourself then that's probably why. Those men are probably approaching you thinking you're out of their league but that they still have a shot given the dating climate in LA (i.e. mediocre guys getting super beautiful women). I do think that men can be more intimidat…
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 08:57 PM
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I live in LA as well. Your best options are probably either 1) moving to another city, 2) seeking men who live outside the city in some of the quieter surrounding towns, or 3) looking for men in relatively 'nerdy' industries, like tech. All of the software engineers I know are married unless they're like, 23 - 27. One other option beyond those three might be using a matchmaker service though I've heard they can be expensive.
/r/RedPillWomen03/04/17 08:54 PM
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I would be all for a wife who acts like the household manager. Not only cooks and cleans but manages everything else too. Appointments, oil changes on the cars, taxes, managing my rental properties and other investments, kids activities, planning vacations....and all I have to do is focus on my career and excel as much as possible. It sounds like you want a wife who's willing to do a lot more than you though. A full household manager and, essentially, a caregiver vs. focusing solely on one's car…
/r/RedPillWomen02/04/17 05:26 PM
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I'm mainly looking for personal opinions. I don't need references and scientific studies. and I'm not sure how it's related to the red pill to begin with Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 02:59 AM
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Yes, this is my experience as well, especially in California.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:16 PM
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Your link only refers to CS and STEM majors at school. Adult working software engineers don't necessarily have that problem. Most of the ones I know are married, but of the singles, the best-dressed and more sociable ones tend to get more casual sex because they tend to party too. The stereotype of nerdy, hermit-like computer-obsessed guys is slowly starting to lose touch with reality, especially as tech continues to blow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:16 PM
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The rest of the women are born to be the plates of Chads. lol, what? These women could just refrain from getting involved with Chads at all you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 02:57 PM
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Men and women have different standards. Women want their guys to be good providers and healthy. Men want their women to be good-looking. You don't know any men who cheat on their girlfriends or wives with better-looking women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 09:24 PM
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It absolutely does matter. Ever heard the phrase 'you can't pour from an empty cup'? One of the first major feminist doctrines came from Mary Wollstonecraft's 'A Vindication of the Rights of Women' who argued for the right for women to be educated so that they could make better mothers to their children. Same thing with finances -- what kind of mother can a woman be if she's basically a child herself and fully dependent on another human being? You're acting like women weren't in a vulnerable pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:27 PM
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It definitely can be cunning. I don't think all women have bad intentions when they do that, though. It seems like a lot of women try to subtly change value judgments around a concept but they try to do it in a way that isn't so aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 08:01 PM
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Lol, come on man. We absolutely were second-class citizens. You do remember that women couldn't vote, get an education, or have their own bank account at one point, right? No one is saying every man is abusive, but patriarchy was abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:59 PM
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as feminism which is SUPER dangerous and powerful This is true of patriarchy as well, which is what feminism was a reaction too. For every crazy feminist, there's an equally crazy wannabe patriarch who would gladly make women second-class citizens again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 07:01 PM
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I think women do and say a lot of things to appease men while they continue to do whatever they want anyway. It's pretty slick if you think about it, especially if you're trying to avoid confrontation. I talked about this in a previous post I made about not understanding the concept of submission because SO many women say they're submissive in their relationship despite having a setup that looks like an equal partnership by every stretch of the imagination. They take a concept they know has a sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:37 PM
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I believe in equality, but I also believe we have equality. What do you think of complaints that working mothers have regarding their husbands not pitching in to help around the house and with childrearing? Basically the idea that homemaking and childrearing is 'woman's work.'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:32 PM
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Or just find a different husband? (I might be misunderstanding branch swinging though)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:45 AM
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Interesting! This makes a lot more sense than what I've heard before, thanks. Also, your comment made me realize that a lot of women I know are being a bit slick with their words -- if what you've described constitutes a dominant/submissive dynamic (and it sounds like it does), then the women I know definitely have equal partnerships; they just call it 'being submissive.' I can't picture them following their husbands this way. And a small, cynical part of me does wonder if they simply call it su…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:42 AM
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Completely agree. Thanks for your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:31 PM
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I guess my point is that when people talk of the man being 'the boss,' I'm not seeing how the setup they describe is functionally different from an equal partnership where there is no boss. If you have two mature adults who decide to be in a relationship and stick to the things they're good at while also considering what's best for them as a unit, how would a dominant-submissive version of that dynamic look different from an equal one? I just don't see how the classic division of labor in a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:19 PM
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I see what you mean, but I think the thing I'm struggling with is knowing the difference between what you've described and what people would call an 'equal partnership.' It doesn't necessarily sound to me like you're being submissive; it sounds like you're simply being considerate of your husband. And I imagine he's considerate of you too. Submitting sounds like 'not bitching,' but it doesn't seem all that different equality either. For example, you mentioned: Submission is knowing (and trusting…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:13 PM
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Women can probably go without sex or relationships better than men overall. I've noticed this as well, which is why I'm confused every time I read posts on the TRP that say women need relationships more than men. From the studies I've seen, older men have a much harder time dealing with life when single while the reverse is true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 10:00 PM
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I think I get your point but specific examples would help. Let's say a couple is deciding on a house to buy -- how would a submissive/dominant couple approach that goal vs. one with an equal partnership? How would they appear different?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 09:15 PM
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Wow, this turned into a complete emotional dump of a comment, yikes.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/17 09:09 PM
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People were just trapped, without the option of leaving. Divorce would lead to social ostracism. Especially women: in previous decades, women just could not survive financially on their own, because they couldn't work Quoting for emphasis.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/17 09:07 PM
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Yep, love your comments here by the way :) Totally agree, and my personal experience lends credence to your point. I've been a stubborn, independent, tomboy type as far back as my earliest memories go, but I learned the hard way through my parents' relationship what happens when a woman puts so much energy into a relationship only to have it end, at least financially speaking. My mom did her best -- picked a smart guy who was hard-working and stayed out of trouble -- but over time he developed a…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/17 09:06 PM
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Totally, and I appreciate that you seem to be tolerant of different viewpoints in the RP sphere :) Yeah, I actually am starting to think I might need something like what your boss has, lol. I don't know what it is about me, but something internal just can't get down with submitting to someone else and being more or less financially dependent on him. I can only submit to my mom and even that makes me chafe, lol. It might have to do with some underlying, innate self-absorption. Even when I read th…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/17 08:57 PM
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Wait, are you saying that a woman should always yield to her husband even if he's a shitbag, cunthound, or loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:42 PM
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I think both genders express their displeasure and hatred for others in different ways. I find it harder to tolerate male expressions because it can be violent and in some cases fatal. But women have a bad habit of not expressing their anger soon enough, which often leads that seething, grudge-holding passive aggression that comes from a build-up of too much unexpressed emotion. I also think men tend to be more uncaring whereas women tend to be more spiteful. With that said, I'm surprised there …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:40 PM
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or any men that wanted to protract a divorce proceeding to ensure the woman ends up broke and desperate. You've never seen this before? You're lucky then, and that explains your viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:32 PM
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Thank you for this comment! Super informative
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/17 08:06 PM
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I'm 28 and an engineer. I like RPW because it has helped me understand the differences between men and women, but I don't believe I'll ever be able to have a traditional RP lifestyle. I simply cannot submit to anyone; my personality won't allow it. And while I've been surprised to see that I have some feminine traits already (i.e. being gentle and tender with people in real life - I do believe you catch more flies with honey more often than not), I find that no matter how hard I try, I can't bui…
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/17 06:43 PM
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One needs to be in charge of the other, while the other is submissive. There needs to be a hierarchy: The man should be in charge of the woman and the woman should be in charge of the kids. I'm curious as to why this has to be the case though? I agree that there needs to be a balance of masculine and feminine, but why does the man need to be in charge of the woman? Not attacking you, by the way, just curious.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/17 06:30 PM
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Neither. A wealthy female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:18 PM
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these are truths that exist whether you like them or even know about them. Yes, and they say nothing about the right or even best way for women to live. They're simply a set of observations and trends. What a woman does with her awareness of those trends should be based on what would personally make her happy. The truth is just the truth; it's not a set of normative statements about life.
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/17 11:49 AM
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Seeing the truth =/= choosing one and only kind of path in life. You can see life according to the RP and still be some ballbusting career woman or whatever and be happy (just as one example) all while being perfectly aware of the RP. There isn't one and only one right path in life. That's one of the main points of this post. RP is just a set of trends and observations. It's not a manual for How to Live Your Best Life.
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/17 11:47 AM
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I'm not sure if you read beastyeast12's last comment to you, but she said she's aware of RP maxims. However, it's still the case that too many RPers (especially the men) love to use those ideas as if they are irreversible facts. The RP is simply a set of observations about the way men and women mate; it says nothing about the best way for an individual woman to maximize her individual happiness. That is a core point in this post -- you can be starkly aware of the RP but that doesn't mean that li…
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/17 11:44 AM
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my point is that those are not the majority case. they're not even a sizable minority case. they're the exception. they're a tiny majority But how do you know this? I'm honestly curious. Do you have any studies that show that the vast majority of single women are unhappy? Or, similarly, that single happy women are a minority amongst all women or amongst all single women?
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/17 05:35 AM
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Yeah, I actually just posted a couple of the studies I've found in a response to another person here. I've never understood this claim that women are unhappy and miserable while single -- all the sources I've seen say that men gain the most from marriage, both financially and emotionally. I know this sounds cynical and I really don't mean it to be, but I read an surprisingly moderate comment from someone on TRP -- that basically, men know what's best for them and what they want out of life, but …
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/17 01:30 AM
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For sure! I posted these in a different thread in a response to 'the-capitan": *Women tend to be less happy in marriage than men *Older unmarried women compared to the married *Marriage and depression by gender -- One quote from this for reference:“Married women have higher rates of depression but the reverse is true for men.” And then I saw a few studies specific to British women, but I mentioned them given the many RP ideas about 'Western' women as whole: *Marriage more beneficial for men And …
/r/RedPillWomen28/03/17 01:23 AM
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This is another thing I can't stand about RP: the blatant lies. I'm assuming you're referring to the other reply I made to you about single women being happier than unmarried men and married women? Do you have any stats or proof that the N-count of married women factors into their happiness? I'm honestly curious. I see a lot of comments being made in the RP sphere about women and solitude that are just not supported by the stats at all. Overall, women are far more capable of being happy alone th…
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/17 10:23 PM
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Thanks for making this post, OP. I feel similarly to you. I like some elements of RPW such as the focus on seeing reality for what it is and accepting that, but I honestly can't get behind much else -- not even the whole Captain/First Mate stuff. It took me a while, but I realized that's just not my personality, and there's no use to anyone for me to go around trying to square the proverbial circle. I think the beauty of RPW is knowing general trends in how men and women develop relationships so…
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/17 10:14 PM
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Beautiful response, and I'm glad I'm not the only person here that feels similarly. Thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen27/03/17 10:08 PM
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LOL
/r/RedPillWomen21/03/17 10:52 PM
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I mean, it sounds like you're simply picking the most negative possibility here. From the articles I've read, it seems that women tend to be unhappier in marriage due to the burdens the come with nurturing and caring for their husbands and children. For men, on the other hand, marriage and kids definitely come with the pressure to provide and make enough money to do so, but it seems that men settle into the comfort and familiarity of domestic life a bit better. I probably shouldn't have specifie…
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/17 07:32 AM
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most women need men in their lives I honestly don't believe this is true, and I don't mean it in a negative way. Almost every study I've seen has shown that marriage tends to benefit men more than women, emotionally speaking. I linked to one study in my comment above. I've also seen too many studies showing that single women are actually happier than married women and that single men, on the flip side, tend to be unhappier than married men and single women. You can't make this stuff up. I think …
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/17 07:24 AM
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so WGTOW is a surefire way to cats, spinsterhood, and chronic depression This isn't true, though, and I don't think it does anyone any good to recite bogus information or beliefs that are not supported by reality. Multiple studies have shown that it's actually married women who are more depressed than unmarried women. Also, single and/or unmarried men tend to be far more depressed than single and/or unmarried women since marriage tends to benefit men more than women (at least, emotionally). So y…
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/17 10:28 PM
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Whew, I'm so happy people here are speaking out against crap like this. Sometimes there are posts on RPW that leave me...worried, lol. I'm glad people aren't buying this bullshit.
/r/RedPillWomen19/03/17 10:11 PM
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You need to write a book on your life (or maybe a very long post -- should RPW start a Spotlight series??), lol. I love reading your comments here. You just sound like you have a grand ol' time with your man, haha.
/r/RedPillWomen17/03/17 07:57 PM
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This is great response! I'm also a bit biased because I thought I was the only person interested in this sub that has the same feelings as you re: the rolling of the eyes at a lot of things and believing in the fluidity of femininity of masculinity. Quick question: what is APOG? scratches head
/r/RedPillWomen17/03/17 07:53 PM
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But you still haven't shown how those characterizations are stereotypes. They're not pervasive race-based beliefs that MOST people have of white men the way people think most Asians are good at math, most blacks are thieves and/or violent, rapists, etc. etc. If you ask a random group of people for a stereotype of white men, I'm confident they would not come up with something akin to a bumbling beta. Ask them for stereotypes of blacks, Hispanics, or Asians, however, and they'd provide a litany we…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/17 03:18 AM
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You.did.not.make.an.argument. You stated an opinion -- namely, that women are shittier than men and then asked me to disprove it (lol). Then you used gender-based selection policies as 'proof' of your opinion. If you think that's a suitable argument, I have a bridge to sell you. You gave your opinion and posed questions to me, and I responded to your opinion by saying you're categorically wrong and I responded to each of your questions. You simply didn't like it. Fair enough. It's people like yo…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/17 02:44 AM
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Not quite. Stereotypes of certain groups exist despite all evidence to the contrary. Notice how you rarely ever hear negative stereotypes about white men? Do you really think that's because none exist? Or is it because people are less willing to think negatively of them?
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/17 01:47 AM
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Honey, stop. You haven't 'proven' anything, especially a belief as general as 'women are shittier than men' -- much less 'logically.' Yes, women get more passes for some of their bad behavior, but that does not mean women are categorically shittier than men. I repeat, are you forgetting which gender has started every major war this Earth has seen? Are you forgetting which gender commits the vast majority of violent crimes? And I have had to assemble a team to help me with something my life depen…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/17 01:44 AM
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My only gripe is when the hell did "Being a woman", like, the archetypal womanly/feminine features ever become so...hated by women? I can tell you guys never use to hate girls cuz they're physically weak, or soft, or touchy feely The thing is, feminine virtues have always been seen as 'less-than.' I'm about to be 28, and I don't recall men OR women ever speaking highly of femininity -- even girls who called themselves feminine! (or 'girly' when we were young). Womanhood and femininity has always…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/17 01:13 AM
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I spent the first 12 years of my life living a more traditional lifestyle where my Dad was the unspoken head of the household. However, this set up failed when he developed a gambling addiction, thereby forcing my Mom to separate from him and raise us on her own. With my Dad's earnings, we could have owned a home and had a more financially stable upbringing but that didn't happen. Neither of my parents have college educations, which greatly reduced their earning power. This is an interesting top…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/17 01:05 AM
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Technically, the burden of proof is on you since you made the assertion. How do you logically prove that women are shittier than men?
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/17 10:13 PM
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Normally, I appreciate many of the posts on this subreddit, but stuff like this is outright insane. Women are no more of a lost cause than men are. This anti-woman rhetoric is not RP, and it needs to stop. Yes, there are a lot of shitty women in the world -- how does that translate to 'most women are a lost cause'? (OP, I know you're only referencing the video you saw, so I'm not attacking you, by the way). Honestly, a lot of RP men and/or MGTOW are so misogynistic, it's tiresome. Yes, tons of w…
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/17 09:24 PM
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As a result, women are generally shittier people than men You've got to be kidding with this bullshit. Stop.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/17 09:14 PM
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I can see why you're disappointed in her, but I'm not sure how that qualifies as a AWALT moment. I don't see anything endemic to women or womanhood that's leading her to act that way. She sounds like someone who simply makes bad choices.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/17 09:00 PM
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Haha! Thanks for your comment. You seem like you've had a very interesting, eventful life lol. And I mean that in a good way!
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/17 08:44 PM
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Hmm, your Mom sounds pretty cool, haha. She basically 'had it all' like you said even though it sounds like it was tough to deal with. This is one example where it would seem that most RPW would see the negatives in your Mom's situation, but while swallowing the red pill may have allowed her to have more children (and possibly not have to deal with birth defects), it's not like life is perfectly free of emotionally draining problems and/or regrets by doing so. It sounds like your Mom made her ch…
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/17 08:42 PM
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If you don't mind sharing, how have you typically met the men that have been in your life? Is it usually through mutual friends, coincidentally meeting them out in the wild, or were you deliberately out looking for a guy? (i.e. online dating, going to bars, etc.)
/r/RedPillWomen12/03/17 10:56 PM
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Yeah, I see your point, and I basically agree. That's why I think that the most likely impetus for marriage for single women with money is probably the longterm emotional benefits of a LTR/marriage. Otherwise, yeah, it's easy to get bored and tired of dating one man after another. Now that I think about it, the single women I was thinking of weren't even really dating, at least not to my knowledge. They seemed to get their social and emotional connections through friends they'd had for several y…
/r/RedPillWomen10/03/17 07:03 PM
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This reasoning makes sense to me given the women I mentioned in my other comment. I've noticed that of all the single older women I've known, the happiest ones seemed financially stable (obviously I didn't know their exact details). They didn't seem rich, but they all owned homes and were either working or retired. I also noticed that they had a set of hobbies they were really into and friends to hang out with. It's an interesting question for sure. Historically, marriage has been a way for wome…
/r/RedPillWomen10/03/17 03:01 AM
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Just looked up Kate Bolick -- she's very attractive. Anyway, I've known a few attractive women in their 40's and beyond who were either divorced or never married. Surprisingly, almost all of the childless ones seemed fairly happy. I don't know if that's because they were less stressed than married folks with kids (which makes sense) or what. Looking back, I suspect it had something to do with their financial stability, which was pretty good. The less-educated and/or working class ones seemed mor…
/r/RedPillWomen10/03/17 02:34 AM
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Is being demure really the most important thing to consider in that context? Sometimes it seems that RPW gets overly concerned with behavioral standards when it comes to feminism when that sort of proves feminists right. Maybe it's not the best idea in the world to have a little girl giving the finger, but the article is (a stupid one, to be fair) about various injustices. There's no need to be nice and sweet about that. Demureness is a non-factor.
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/17 01:55 AM
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What do men's reactions to what you've outlined have to do with women's reactions?
/r/RedPillWomen09/03/17 01:49 AM
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I wish this set-up was talked about more on RPW
/r/RedPillWomen08/03/17 07:10 PM
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This is a great list.
/r/RedPillWomen08/03/17 05:17 AM
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Sure, but really -- how often do women (esp ones who have already been married for some time) drop their husbands for some new, richer guy down the street? Whenever people bring up 'hypergamy' regarding women, I think it's safe to assume they're referring to women who are still in the market, not women who are looking to trade in their current husbands for someone better. If anything, that's something that men are more likely to do.
/r/RedPillWomen08/03/17 05:13 AM
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How can men and women be in successful relationships when one is trying to sleep with as many women as possible and the other is trying hard to get one to commit? Those seem like competing interests.
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/17 11:05 PM
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I love this question and don't know why people are giving you standard 'because we have different goals!!' answers. That's insane. Men and women join together in relationships, how does it make any kind of sense for RP men to strive for as much sex as possible and women to strive for commitment? You've got two sets of people desiring two completely different things yet somehow they're supposed to come together and form an everlasting bond? I understand and sympathize with many RP concepts but th…
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/17 09:20 PM
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This is true of everyone, not just women.
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/17 09:06 PM
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It seems a little suspicious that so many posters here are against hypergamy. Are these male accounts writing here? OP, I agree with you that hypergamy is a good thing for women. As long as a woman is striving to be high value herself while also striving for high value men, I don't see the problem. I'm honestly surprised that some RPW folks are against it. It's natural for a woman to seek the best possible mate for herself and her children and that typically means finding a man who can be a grea…
/r/RedPillWomen07/03/17 09:04 PM
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What...the fuck? You can't be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:36 PM
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That sounds...like a very tenuous distinction. Being 'the beta' in a relationship is only inferior if men do it?
/r/RedPillWomen17/02/17 02:20 PM
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