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I lost positive aspects of being single but gained positive aspects of being in a relationship. It fixed negative parts of being single but came with negative parts of being in a relationship It’s not make it sound pessimistic or pointless, but rather that being in a relationship comes with different priorities compared to being single
/r/seduction12/01/26 07:59 AM
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No. It wasn’t better or worse, just a different way of living with different priorities
/r/seduction11/01/26 11:47 PM
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“One turns 18 this month, another in a couple of months” OP ain’t picky, he’ll take whatever naive young girl rolls off the lot when their model year is released
/r/seduction06/01/26 10:09 PM
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Yes, judging by the way you described it. You’re not playing PlayStation, you’re working with real co-workers and talking like they’re coming off the line for you to test drive and discard when the next model is released.
/r/seduction06/01/26 08:48 PM
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At that age they don’t know what they want, they’ll just know it when they see it
/r/seduction03/01/26 11:09 PM
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Just use ChatGPT. It can already summarise and explain pretty much every book and method you ask it about
/r/seduction29/12/25 09:33 PM
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I think it’s better to write your first 3 as social proof, high value and having resources. Even a dirt poor and unknown indie musician can get those three qualities right and become attractive in his social circle, talking from personal experience. It doesn’t always have to be traditional fame, money and power that 99% of men will never have anyway
/r/seduction27/12/25 09:09 PM
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I brought it up in the context of why pretending to be gay is a fucking stupid idea.
/r/seduction15/12/25 10:36 AM
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Which has relevance to pretending to be gay how?
/r/seduction14/12/25 10:41 PM
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If you really need it spelled out for you so badly why it’s such a terrible way to try and get girls; firstly in today’s world, women have more options than ever. They can literally make a tinder at breakfast and have 100 matches by dinner. Disqualifying tactics are not the same as back in RSD Tyler’s day when they were using the gay line, you have to be very careful about how you use them because she has options if you accidentally disqualify her too hard. Saying you’re gay is a very hard line …
/r/seduction14/12/25 08:21 PM
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I was meaning infinitely more emotionally than you specifically my bro, as evidenced by the fact you are even thinking about this
/r/seduction12/12/25 10:51 PM
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"If you tell a girl that you're gay, and that you want to 'see what it feels like to be with a girl', she'll sleep with you." I’ve heard some cringe shit from this community but that’s up there at the top, bravo. There is absolutely no way you could do this without coming across as a pathetic defeated loser who is pretending to be gay to try get laid. Women are infinitely more emotionally intelligent than you and they will see you aren’t gay in a microsecond. This tactic was invented by “do anyt…
/r/seduction12/12/25 08:57 PM
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You’ll need to do more from your end to initiate interaction and show interest. High energy guys will hit on anyone without fear of being rejected or coming across as being a pest because that’s just part of their personality. Being more chill and secure naturally means that they won’t be as upfront, especially if they aren’t sure how you feel about them.
/r/seduction02/12/25 10:57 PM
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Seems like every girl I like doesn’t like me back. I think it’s genuinely a curse now lol
/r/seduction25/11/25 06:22 PM
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Almost all of the basic seduction skills are in there if you are paying attention, they’re just written into an entertaining story instead of some dry ass author listing off shit
/r/seduction12/10/25 07:01 PM
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The Game. It was the first piece of material that really communicated that seduction could be learned and I wasn’t doomed to be stuck in my same old ways.
/r/seduction12/10/25 06:46 AM
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When I was a musician In my country I couldn’t compete with tradesmen for girls because they finished work by 5pm, left work at work, brought home a respectable and consistent wage, and were physically and emotionally available when not working. Pretty much the exact opposite of a musician and seemingly much more desirable. Young me didn’t expect to be drowning in girls but it was admittedly a bit disappointing that being a musician barely registered. You’re totally right about the instagram thi…
/r/seduction07/10/25 10:22 AM
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Yeah it does. I’d say you just got unlucky. It was probably a case of her being keen in the moment but real life hit afterwards and she had laundry to do and parents to visit and other boring life shit. My personal experience when I was working professionally was musician just isn’t as hot as it was back in the day. And if you do try to use your fame or influence to get girls it can fuck your reputation very quickly. But if you’re a stable and grounded person and bringing home the bacon and not …
/r/seduction07/10/25 08:57 AM
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I’m an ex musician. Unfortunately being a musician isn’t attractive anymore unless you’re famous and rich, or she’s also a creative in my experience.
/r/seduction07/10/25 07:49 AM
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Not necessarily bad advice but it was something that was reinforced by the people around me; I missed out on a lot of opportunities with girls when I was younger because I cared too much about what other people thought. Didn’t date her because my friends thought she was annoying even though I was fine with her, didn’t try talking to her because I was scared of being laughed at for trying, that type of shit
/r/seduction24/09/25 08:12 PM
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About 10 minutes in your brain will click that it isn’t real and it will become ineffective
/r/seduction21/09/25 08:29 PM
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This might have been true before social media and dating apps when you actually had to have the balls to approach a 9-10. But now it’s never been easier to shoot a low pressure, low effort shot. 9-10s DMs will be exploding off the hook these days and they’ll have a lot of options
/r/seduction21/09/25 07:59 PM
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Seduction has a very skewed opinion on how strong it is, because the people who need it are socially awkward weirdos who finally get taught how to act normal and think they’ve discovered the holy grail The only seduction theory worth learning is the basic techniques (the ones discovered decades ago) and they do 90% of the seduction theory work, the rest is unreliable or highly subjective bro science that isn’t worth the effort Numbers game will beat seduction game any time because if a woman is …
/r/seduction21/09/25 07:54 PM
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Yeah, I mentioned already in another reply but I think a big part of it was that he was pushing boundaries at a young age and realised that a lot of authority figures and boundaries don’t actually have the power we grow up thinking they do, so you can get away with a lot if you don’t care
/r/seduction19/09/25 10:57 PM
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It’s definitely tied up to a lifetime of reputation building. He was always being cheeky and getting chucked out of class since we were 8yrs old, that carried through to high school, post high school and beyond. He was always known as the naughty kid at school so it just stuck. I think he also had some kind of weird confidence boost from discovering at a very early age that boundaries could be pushed quite far, because a lot of authority figures like teachers are ultimately powerless. If you did…
/r/seduction19/09/25 08:49 PM
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He simply didn’t give a single fuck about how people saw him. He would say the most outrageous things, a lot of it sexist or racist, and they’d laugh and coo over how naughty he was being. I think there was an inherent advantage for his style of charm coming from a lower socioeconomic background that people felt he “didn’t know better”. I never tried to be like him because I I know that I would be expected to behave better and it wouldn’t work
/r/seduction19/09/25 07:28 PM
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Funny how OP doesn’t have a reply for this one
/r/seduction18/09/25 07:35 AM
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It’s very clear that no one will be able to pull you out of your hole so I hope you find the strength to pull yourself out, because that’s the only way you’re getting out.
/r/seduction18/09/25 07:32 AM
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Whoever you’re most attracted to and have the most fun with
/r/seduction18/09/25 03:22 AM
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Incels created themselves when they thought they could whine their way out of how the world works. Do I like paying taxes? Fuck no. Do I wish there was some world where we didn’t have to pay taxes? Fuck yes. Is this world likely to have even an inch of possibility of being a reality in my lifetime? Almost certainly 99.99% not and even if it was I don’t think I’d want to live through the turmoil to create it. At the end of the day I learn about accounting and taxes to reduce my tax burden as best…
/r/seduction18/09/25 02:41 AM
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This subs time is over but not because of your incel rant. There has never been more concise, tested information on how attraction and seduction works available for people who want to find it. I can literally type “how does mystery method work” into ChatGPT and get a full summary without even reading the books. This sub is dead because the answers to all the questions already exist, you just have to have to put in effort to find them
/r/seduction17/09/25 10:22 PM
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I can’t remember the exact passage but in The Game mystery method is pretty much summed up as being the indirect back door method, and that was exactly who mystery was as a person. He tailor made a method that works for him and his personality and his strengths. Which is exactly what everyone on this sub should do for themselves. Try methods, see what works for you and build your game around it. People look for the ultimate method and complain that it doesn’t work for them, you need to be adapti…
/r/seduction12/09/25 09:53 PM
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You sound like you dress fine if not a little basic, but there’s nothing wrong with basic as long as it’s clean and fits well. Getting detailed into fashion comes down to what scene you belong to and what type of woman you’re trying to attract. Club girl gold diggers will be attracted to loud designer gear, festival girls will probably love the gaudy “festival fit” clothes, punk/emo girls will like doc martens and black skinny jeans. It also relates to you and your personality, are you an entrep…
/r/seduction09/09/25 09:42 PM
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Never attribute to game that which was just fools mate
/r/seduction01/09/25 09:29 PM
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No offence, but you sound like a very generic man. A lot of men think that being generic gives them lots of options but it just makes you blend in. Sounds like you need to learn how to stand out a little bit more. You don’t have to go full crazy PUA peacocking overload, but learning how to dress better and match colours, styles and fabrics goes a long way. Same with getting a haircut that really compliments you and your style. It’s hard to evaluate what you need without seeing a picture of you, …
/r/seduction30/08/25 10:47 PM
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And? What’s your point?
/r/seduction29/08/25 04:31 AM
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Wow. Truly life changing stuff there bro. More like a truth supernova. Truth big bang even
/r/seduction28/08/25 08:28 PM
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Start out light and playful and dont get too specific as it could come across as a personal attack, start getting more specific as you get to know her better and get a feel for the vibe. Eventually if you can find something that you can playfully tease her about that is somewhat unique to her, that is really powerful as it can create an in joke between you two. Always keep in mind that teasing is about entertaining both of you, not actually insulting her or degrading yourself. Different women wi…
/r/seduction11/08/25 09:54 PM
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Thats literally the plot of The Game; can a pasty, nerdy, skinny, average looking, average job, overall average guy learn game and be more attractive? Spoiler alert, he can become one of the greatest pick up artists of all time. Also you're 20 bro, you don't need to stress. Of course you aren't going to be at your full potential yet
/r/seduction25/07/25 10:19 PM
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You can't really tell who has the most game online, all the examples you listed are ultimately trying to sell you something which means that they are going to show off their success and omit their failure as much as possible. Movies and TV isn't real life, Barney Stinson for example gets girls because the plot says he does so you can't truly call it game. In the old days of the Thundercat PUA rankings, the seduction community was far more homogenous and it was easier to rank who was best
/r/seduction11/07/25 10:42 AM
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Short answer: being in a band looks cool Long answer: it depends on the demographic of women you are hanging out with and to what extent you have musical abilities and how you use them. I spent the better part of the 2010s as a working musician and I didn’t really get any girls because of it, mostly because I spent most of my time practicing and rehearsing rather than going out. Original music was often small crowds, covers bands you would notice girls watching you while you perform but by the t…
/r/seduction17/06/25 11:45 PM
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Oh haha wow you got me good bro! But actual what is the super secret methoid!!!! pls to tell us virgins!!!
/r/seduction06/06/25 08:24 AM
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OMG BRO!!!! How do u get teh booba? please share with us virgins!!!!
/r/seduction06/06/25 08:16 AM
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A bit of column A and a bit of column B. There has to be a level of base attraction for push pull, disqualification etc to have an effect. If she’s not particularly interested in you and you run your ultra game disqualification gambit routine, it will barely register with her.
/r/seduction29/05/25 07:22 PM
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I remember my friends and I loved that show as teenagers. Tried rewatching it as an adult and it was painful how dysfunctional the characters were
/r/seduction28/05/25 07:05 PM
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If you want casual you ideally should start to infer this by projecting an outwardly flirty and sexual vibe into your messages before the date. Many women will be able to read between the lines, fair warning that some will bail on the date because it’s not what she’s looking for, while others may not pick up on it at all. Don’t offer to pick her up, it’s just one of those things that women don’t do for their own safety if it’s a first date. You will subconsciously look more socially calibrated i…
/r/seduction26/05/25 10:02 PM
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There is a nugget of wisdom in the whole shit test model; keep cool when she says or does something that make you react in a desperate or needy way. That’s pretty much it really. Having said that, yes I do think there is a small amount of women who consciously shit test men, and yes I’m sure all the mental masturbation around shit tests probably helps if that happens to you. But when all the clever lines are said and done, why would you want to be around someone who does that to you?
/r/seduction23/05/25 02:02 PM
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Shit tests are a self fulfilling prophecy that get too much attention in my opinion. The more you believe in shit tests then the more you notice them. The more you notice them then the more you overthink them. The more you overthink them then the more you get flustered and fumble them. And while it was a massive deal for you that you memorised answers to deal with, for her it was just some off handed comment that she didn’t even think about
/r/seduction23/05/25 12:21 PM
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I really don’t think the stakes are that high, it’s just a playful comment. If I give a woman a compliment she could see it as disingenuous, react negatively and say something like “whatever, I know you’re just saying that”, so should I never give her a compliment just in case? Of course not, I calibrate and wait for the right moment and say something genuine, same with cold reads. Cold reading can absolutely be used to get to know someone, it’s great at starting conversations or steering conver…
/r/seduction23/05/25 12:15 PM
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“I bet you were a One Direction fan when you were younger, who did you stan? Let me guess; Harry” It’s a fairly safe bet that she was a one direction fan (at my age group anyway), and also a fairly good bet that it’s either harry or niall. She’ll either respond correct like “omg how did you know?”, neutral like “no I was a Liam fan” or incorrect like “god no I hated them”. But as long as you are casual and playful she won’t necessarily be offended or respond negatively. Whatever the answer you c…
/r/seduction23/05/25 09:27 AM
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I find if you do it in a light way it can really make a conversation playful and you’ll most likely be fine. If she’s getting offended then she’s not into you so no worries. I am talking about casual cold reading though, not PUA style magic trick cold reading
/r/seduction23/05/25 08:06 AM
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Cold reading is still great for starting/moving conversations forward
/r/seduction23/05/25 07:35 AM
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OP is married so why is it being analysed at all
/r/seduction23/05/25 04:58 AM
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Why wouldn’t she? She sees a taken man so he’s safe to have relationship conversations with because he doesn’t want a relationship with her because he’s taken. It’s overanalysing something that really isn’t that deep
/r/seduction23/05/25 04:51 AM
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You’re a coworker and she most likely sees you as a friend. She’s not giving you signals that she wants you to cheat, she’s giving you girl talk that she gives her besties, “do all men cheat” is a typical topic among the girls. Think about that before you try to “donkey fuck” your coworker. To answer your question; “I guess some men do and some don’t, I don’t know….”
/r/seduction23/05/25 01:30 AM
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Look through her profile and find something to use as a launching point. If you can come up with something witty that is usually best but you can also ask/comment on something. Tbh it’s kinda 50/50 whether she responds to witty pick up lines or more genuine openers like asking questions or comments, and it’s hard to tell which one to go with. If she’s really attracted she will respond to anything though
/r/seduction21/05/25 11:22 AM
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What are you hoping to achieve by talking about it? If you don’t like a girls attitude then go find one you do like. Wanking about “hoeflation” on reddit isn’t going to do anything for you
/r/seduction21/05/25 03:32 AM
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Incel shit
/r/seduction19/05/25 01:10 AM
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Smaller festivals are awesome. Better vibes, usually more chill people. The big festivals I’ve been to are fun in the right company but it feels like being in a generic nightclub at a bigger scale. Shitty aggressive dudebros, girls who are only there to be seen on instagram who think their shein outfit makes them a kardashian or something, overly aggressive monetisation of everything, and some of the word performances of big name bands I’ve ever seen
/r/seduction17/05/25 10:14 PM
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Parties have always been hit and miss. Sometimes there are heaps of girls, sometimes it’s mostly men. Festivals have been supposedly struggling because people are struggling financially and can’t afford to go. Festivals have also been something of a status symbol for the last decade or so for millennials, but just my observation I think that may be changing with younger generations.
/r/seduction17/05/25 09:26 PM
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Many skills used in attracting the girl are useful for keeping the girl. Things like creating excitement, looking your best, being high value etc. Where I’m from men are somewhat famous for getting into relationships and then turning into a fat sack of shit who acts like he hates his partner but also needs her to take care of his life
/r/seduction15/05/25 01:48 AM
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Many have tried before you brother, where do you think all the memes about how you only get compliments from dudes come from?
/r/seduction08/05/25 02:27 AM
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Haha! It won’t Edit: OPs post reads like they are someone who isn’t socially calibrated or experienced in bodybuilding beyond looking at famous bodybuilders, like “ I’m not getting results so I’m just gonna get jacked and ripped and then you’ll all see” OP is already doing approaches, which is good, but then decides to become a gym rat chasing a genetic anomaly physique, AND doing it natty? Anyone who has ever seriously lifted can tell you how difficult it is to get a zyzz physique, dude was gen…
/r/seduction08/05/25 01:47 AM
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Start with YouTube eye contact practice videos if you have to
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:36 PM
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Learn basic game is a start. I can't say specifically how it is done because hooking emotionally will vary from girl to girl depending on what she likes, but part of game is analysing her and calibrating to what she finds attractive
/r/seduction04/05/25 03:15 AM
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No. It’s not emotional connection in the sense that you talk about emotional topics. Emotional connection means that she is compelled to be around you by the emotional, irrational lizard part of her brain. I wouldn’t waste time trying to figure out where you fucked up. There could be a million reasons not even related to you why she lost interest.
/r/seduction02/05/25 05:32 PM
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That’s how it goes these days. She had fun on the first date but you didn’t hook her emotionally despite hooking up. Another thing that often happens these days is the fairytale date ends, real life kicks back in for her and she loses interest, she’s got work/family drama/friends/laundry etc to deal with so she can’t even with dates right now She keeps texting and agreeing to dates because she likes the attention/you’re catching her in a sociable mood but she can’t be bothered acting on it so sh…
/r/seduction01/05/25 07:34 PM
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Both. The game technically covers all the basics which still stand today, but it’s presented as a biography rather than a how-to guide and if you suck at analysing literature then you might miss less obvious lessons in there. Models is a more practical step-by-step guide so even the dumbest person can understand it. Both are easy to read, I personally like the game for the motivational aspect. It’s a great story of how you CAN change your life and learn to get good with women if you’re willing t…
/r/seduction01/05/25 07:20 PM
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I asked chatGPT to explain it and it basically sounds like take mystery method, amplify the worst aspects of it and be an unapologetic asshole about it
/r/seduction30/04/25 11:22 PM
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Status, it translates easily into social proof, preselection, and high value lifestyle which are quite possibly the three most important aspects of modern game. Looks can also be worked on easily, most guys can gain 1-2 points in one day by changing their wardrobe, paying for a decent haircut and styling/getting rid of the pubes they insist on growing on their face. You can get another looks point in a couple of months at the gym if you put in the effort to go. But you can’t just walk out the ho…
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:23 PM
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Was your wing a How I Met Your Mother fan? I used to have a few friends who went through a suit phase because of Barney Stinson. They thought they were so suave but they just looked like baby faced salesmen
/r/seduction30/04/25 07:03 PM
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When I finally realised that not trying because I was scared of what people think is infinitely more pathetic than trying and failing. I then realised that the people who would laugh at me for getting blown out are just people who, like the old me, don’t try anything because they are scared of what people think
/r/seduction28/04/25 03:57 AM
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No, approaching is a personal thing and you don’t know shit about where he’s at or what he’s trying to achieve. It’s like when people come up to me at the gym to tell me I’m doing an exercise wrong and then bro-splain the correct way to make gains, I roll my eyes and continue it the way my physiotherapist taught me for rehabbing my injury. Don’t give unsolicited advice
/r/seduction27/04/25 09:12 PM
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Aside from the whole employer employee relationship complications, you have probably already check-mated yourself by going on a date with her friend. Girls talk and if you ask out the boss, then the friend will probably get a message not long after saying something like “wtf your date just asked me out lol?”…..
/r/seduction27/04/25 03:52 AM
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I’ve always thought of it like a 0-100 scale, 0 is ice cold repulsed by you, 100 is red hot attraction, and I’m sure you can fill in the rest of the scale based on that. When you meet a girl you instantly fall somewhere on that scale based on her attraction to you, you can do things that give you a better or worse initial number like improving your physical appearance etc. You can also do things that can slide you up and down that scale after your initial rating, such as having great conversatio…
/r/seduction25/04/25 11:39 AM
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I get the comparison thing as I work in a highly competitive industry where you and your skills get you your next job, and it’s extremely hard to not look at all the competition and not get down about their success. I have found that the best thing is make your own goals that you can focus on, that way you have a clear vision of what you want and you can create and tread your own path and feel good about making progress to your goal. It also helps you block out the negative comparisons as you ca…
/r/seduction25/04/25 11:19 AM
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Has model wife and thousands of hot fans who’d be up for it, but still obsessed with Selena Gomez. I think that’s what it is anyway
/r/seduction25/04/25 11:03 AM
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I think he’s meaning he asked but the roommate is saying no without saying no. Some guys with good game are really secretive about their methods, like you’re going to steal their girls or something
/r/seduction25/04/25 11:00 AM
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If a girl likes you it's extremely obvious, and I'm talking about she actually likes you, not neutral-warm maybe likes you. She'll stare at you, laugh at your shit jokes, drop everything to be around you, I recently saw a girl drink herself into alcohol poisoning at a party because she was trying to keep up with the guy she was crushing on. There is also the inherent feeling that the vibe is on, it's hard to explain but it's like meeting up for a night out with the lads and your energy is up, th…
/r/seduction23/04/25 12:08 PM
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because baseline attraction is very powerful. It's why inner game is promoted so heavily these days, because it works to build that baseline attraction. if that base is strong enough then all you need to do is not be a piece of shit directly to her (although it's often still possible to be) and she will still be attracted to you. People often attribute to good game that which should be credited to base attraction.
/r/seduction23/04/25 04:20 AM
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Guys ignore the signs she’s NOT interested because they don’t want to admit they have little to no chance. The reality is that if she’s into you, the signs like the ones you said are obvious
/r/seduction23/04/25 03:07 AM
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Most of this sub is questions that would be answered by studying the recommended reading material, specific situations that are impossible to answer unless you know the full picture, and people trying to advertise as gurus. It’s far from the kind of intermediate/advanced community I was hoping for. But in reality I’ve come to realise that most of game is fundamentals, ie what you learn in the recommended books, mixed in with a healthy dose of luck and numbers. The best thing to do is hit the boo…
/r/seduction15/04/25 08:05 PM
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Just let her talk, jump in with a question or a comment about something she said every now and then to keep the conversation going. Don’t worry if she changes topics without resolving the thread, just roll with it. Chatty girls are great, they pretty much do all the heavy lifting in conversation
/r/seduction10/04/25 07:24 PM
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Ask open questions and give open answers so that he can keep the conversation going. Women get approached and men approach, literally and metaphorically. Ask yourself how you can be approachable in all situations, talking, sexting, or standing around at the club even
/r/seduction09/04/25 08:12 AM
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To find your signature style find some celebrities or models who you like, preferably who look similar to you but not 100% necessary, and model their fashion. Just find clothing and accessories that fits their image. Peacocking is wearing something outrageous that draws attention. It’s an old mystery method that can work, however you need to still be able to “sell it” and talk to girls. Mystery was a magician so all he needed to do was perform some magic tricks and that would justify his outrage…
/r/seduction09/04/25 07:46 AM
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Join a group fitness class at your gym. They partially exist for people who need a social element to help them exercise. I wouldn’t try approaching people who are working out in the middle of their routine, a girl once asked me if the farmers walks she was doing would help her at her baking job and I was so cooked from lifting that I didn’t realise she was flirting and just said “yeah sure I guess”. Group fitness will give you a chance to socialise before and after class and half the class is al…
/r/seduction08/04/25 11:37 PM
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They don’t seem like they get rejected because they are only attracting in and taking on girls who are cool with being on a rotation. There’s a bit of a survivor bias because any girl who wants to be exclusive or isn’t cool with being on roster isn’t going to enter the arrangement. Plus as someone else mentioned, the guy is ideally calibrated to filter out the girls who are not compatible with the roster.
/r/seduction08/04/25 10:52 AM
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I have short friends who date models and the one thing they have in common is high value/social proof. Height can help open the door but I don’t know if it would even be in the top 5 modern seduction concepts, whereas high value lifestyle and social proof are easily top 5, maybe even top 3
/r/seduction06/04/25 02:29 AM
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Writing off her glow up progress based on how she looked 2 years ago is major chode energy brother. If anything it’s a massive green flag that she is willing to self improve and stick with it, most people aren’t that introspective.
/r/seduction04/04/25 03:42 AM
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sounds like you need discipline, and to use it to give yourself a makeover. Motivation comes and goes so you must use discipline. Life is what you make it, and honestly it takes some discipline to force yourself to have fun. For height, tough shit there's nothing you can do except own it and work on the areas you can control. If it makes you feel any better I have short friends who date literal models, If they can do it you can too. For working out, discipline is key. Talk to a personal trainer …
/r/seduction22/03/25 10:48 PM
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Most of this is just The Game era stuff repackaged in fancy wording 1 = a combination of having wingmen and social proof 2 = abundance mentality 3 = social proof 4 = basic advice for life, not just dating, with some peacocking 5 = internalising that women want sex just as much, if not more than men. They just don’t want to be pressured or slut shamed Good for you for going out and finding knowledge but $500 for this is too much. I can’t help but think that you fell for the exact same seduction t…
/r/seduction19/03/25 06:16 PM
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You watch too much porn but you don’t know where to stick your PP?
/r/seduction18/03/25 11:47 PM
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It’s something you want to do subtly and don’t overdo it. When you try to use it you want to do it in a way that creates a mystery in her head and keeps her guessing, “is that his gf? No they seem like just friends, wait that looked more like a couple moment, I need to find out….”. Women can pick from hundreds of guys at any one time thanks to the online world these days, they aren’t going to fuck about chasing you for too long
/r/seduction18/03/25 07:54 AM
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Best way to pass shit tests is to forget they exist
/r/seduction16/03/25 10:03 PM
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It’s all three (plus more things). Luck because you could meet your perfectly compatible dream girl and use god tier game on her, it might not do shit if her dog just died or she had a shitty day at work or has other priorities in life at the time. Numbers because statistically the more women you meet, the more chances you have. Good looks because pretty privilege is real, it’s just not the be all end all and you should be trying to max what you have
/r/seduction14/03/25 07:45 PM
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I prefer going for interesting over expensive brands for going out. I use generic name brands like Light Blue and CK One for just general day to day smelling good. Cologne is another one of many things that I got into for seduction but ended up enjoying and continuing for myself
/r/seduction13/03/25 07:03 AM
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Lmao isn’t letting unnecessary people know about your crimes the worst thing a criminal can do?
/r/seduction11/03/25 04:05 AM
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The Game is great for fundamentals of attraction, things like demonstrate value, social proof, appear non needy etc. all that stuff still underpins typical male/female attraction. How you deliver those qualities is different nowadays, quite literally in some cases like the Maury Povitch opener because young women today quite possibly don’t know who Maury Povitch is. You can certainly use parts of the game and you should absolutely adapt outdated parts for modern day. IMO one of the best things a…
/r/seduction04/03/25 09:17 AM
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Start by learning to do basics well. If you can’t make a white t shirt and black pants look good then you have no business trying more out there styles, but it’s not as simple as just buying and putting them on. There’s plenty of YouTubers who can show you how to make the basics work so I won’t write it down. Some tips that helped me personally: Start basic and build up from there. It helps you learn to work colour and fit. Once you master that you can add in statement pieces etc Don’t be the gu…
/r/seduction20/02/25 07:10 AM
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All openers only work if the person being opened is receptive, all you’re doing is giving the person an invitation to talk to you. You weren’t attracted to her, therefore you weren’t particularly open so it felt off
/r/seduction10/02/25 11:56 PM
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Ok, invite them over to make music then. Inviting someone over is perfectly innocent, whereas “want to come over and watch a movie and chill?” is like an international signal for “lets hookup”. Especially if there is some kind of flirting and escalation building up to it
/r/seduction04/02/25 12:09 PM
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Hook ups are a numbers game. Just talk to as many girls as possible and be open about what you’re after. There isn’t a secret conversation that will make her want to have sex with you, but most girls know what “do you want to come over and watch a movie together” means, especially if you have been flirting and escalating with her. If you want an edge to really bump up your numbers, lower your standards. The guys I’ve known in my life who have the highest hookup count would sleep with just about …
/r/seduction04/02/25 04:30 AM
2

The fundamental principles of attraction and seduction were figured out decades ago. Every author, PUA and guru since then has just repeated these principles, occasionally with their own spin that works for them. I’ve read enough of the books now to know, fun fact: it’s the same with financial advice. Models is probably the best modern book that is accessible to most men that can correct issues that are common to most men
/r/seduction30/01/25 10:57 PM
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“Get busy living or get busy dying”. Taking Ls sucks, and there’s a lot of things about dating that sucks, but your only other option is to give up, and then you’ll definitely get nothing
/r/seduction28/01/25 12:14 AM
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The classic response for a shit test is agree and amplify. As you get better at them you get a feel for how to reply to them, for “do you like Asian girls?” I’d look her in the eyes and say in a confident but casual way “yeah I do” and then continue on. You agreed by yes, and in this case you amplified the energy, rather than the line which is typically what you do, by implying you find her attractive. Personally I think shit tests are like the Shrodingers Cat of seduction; they only really exis…
/r/seduction27/01/25 10:19 AM
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Not so much advice but rather the stories of “I kept hanging around with her and kept asking until she said yes” and the other “hopeless romantic” stuff that film and tv likes to show. It makes it seem like pure persistence and grand gestures can get you the girl but in reality it just does not work IRL unless she’s already attracted to you
/r/seduction22/01/25 10:40 PM
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I was discussing tinder with a female friend one day when we met up for coffee, she had 2000+ likes waiting. She bought tinder gold and went through them all with me and most were low quality or straight up not her type, but in that moment she paid a small fee to choose between literally 2000 men. It was a real “I will never experience this” moment
/r/seduction19/01/25 02:22 AM
2

You come here a lot lately posting stuff like this but what are you doing to make yourself more attractive and meet women? No one here can help you until we know what you’re already trying man
/r/seduction17/01/25 03:43 AM
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I was a late bloomer, lost my v at 21, and as much as I would have loved to experience high school romance, I feel that the lack of attention gave me the drive to get to where I am today. Trying to look hot for girls developed my love for fitness and an eye for fashion, I am no body builder or fashion guru but I look pretty good compared to guys my age who have completely let themselves go. I focused on my career and now I work a dream job. I also feel that having to learn about seduction has ma…
/r/seduction13/01/25 10:32 PM
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The fundamentals of attraction were figured out by the early seduction gurus and they haven’t changed, and probably won’t change until there is a massive shift in the way humans live their lives. There’s only so many ways to repackage that info and sell it. Inner game is the lowest common denominator that can be easily explained en masse and applied by most men. However some aspects of pick up, especially more manipulative techniques like negs are more well known by women and frowned upon now. I…
/r/seduction06/01/25 11:21 AM
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It’s easy to get lost in the excitement and miss the warnings about getting lost in pickup that are in that book
/r/seduction06/01/25 10:40 AM
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I was the shy, skinny, awkward kid all through high school into my early twenties and I was painfully single and insecure. The only encounters and the one relationship that I had was not on my terms. I had started getting into self improvement for fashion, fitness etc when I left high school and I also started listening to a podcast on pickup when I was bored at work which didn’t really do anything for me, but the host and many of the guests consistently talked about the book The Game and how mu…
/r/seduction05/01/25 10:17 PM
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The game by Neil Strauss. It’s a great motivator that you can change your habits and it also summarises the fundamentals of attraction in an entertaining story
/r/seduction01/01/25 09:25 PM
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Just ask. If she says no then just smile, be cool and pretend it didn’t happen next time you go in. If you care about your cafe that much then forget about it
/r/seduction30/12/24 10:57 PM
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I don’t think it’s any one thing but rather a cultural shift caused by, but not limited to: Post pandemic, people are much more tribal and have less tolerance and patience for people outside their circle. I think the general social and political climate, cost of living stress etc is making people less open to people they don’t know Dating apps gave women, especially in the late millennial/early gen z bracket who came of age with these apps, near unlimited abundance and validation. I’ve had a fem…
/r/seduction30/12/24 10:13 AM
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I used to work with a guy who was adored by the old and young women at work. He could say or do the most sexist/racist/generally inappropriate stuff and they would reply with “oh x you’re so bad” in that tone that suggests that they love it. He wasn’t particularly fit, handsome or well off. He was a great laugh with the boys but literally nothing else about him should have been attractive beyond a handsome face, but he had nothing to lose so he genuinely just didn’t give a fuck. I’ve tried to mo…
/r/seduction23/12/24 11:34 PM
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Won’t hurt to try, I see plenty of “420 friendly” tinder bios though so you never know
/r/seduction04/12/24 12:45 AM
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It means you have an “I don’t give a fuck” attitude in your comments and actions, which is good, but that you make it too well known and come across as bitchy/sassy/queen-ish, which is bad. As the other commenter pointed out it’s associated with gay/effeminate best friend vibes. A little bit of sass is ok, but it’s easy to over do it
/r/seduction30/11/24 05:27 AM
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Different strokes for different folks. I have long hair past my shoulders. It’s definitely a look but I honestly don’t get much attention for it, just the occasional comment on how long it is. The girls who like it though absolutely love it
/r/seduction29/11/24 05:00 AM
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Wear sunglasses indoors and own it, tell her you have an eye condition that you need them for and then pretend it’s not even there. If you want to practice, take her on outdoor dates where sunglasses would be acceptable and see how you go, might help you get your groove back and overcome the mental block
/r/seduction26/11/24 10:46 AM
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Social proof is the concept of your status and value in a social circle. In the modern era it’s more nuanced than just having a lot of resources or fame. Your social proof depends on who you are as a person; a musician who writes indie music might have high social proof at a local music venue, but poor social proof at a networking event for finance people. A body builder might have high social proof to people who value fitness but low social proof to people who hate working out. A professional L…
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:50 PM
1

One is, the other is no more than 5 and a half ft tall. Height doesn’t matter as much as people think
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:35 PM
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Being physically fit will always be better than being not physically fit, But it’s not the be all end all of game. I personally know two guys who are pretty unfit and dumpy who have literal model girlfriends (social proof, one of the most powerful things in game). I work out consistently, I’m by no means a bodybuilder but I look good especially when standing next to guys who have let themselves go. I don’t have a model partner, I work out because it makes me feel good and be more confident in my…
/r/seduction25/11/24 06:17 AM
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The best time to ask is within a week, maybe two, of meeting. Strike while the iron is hot or you’ll slip into the friend zone The second best time is today You might have missed the boat but you don’t know if you don’t ask
/r/seduction23/11/24 08:08 PM
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I don’t think many men have truly casual sex with new women each time. I think if you look deeper there will be something underpinning the hookup like one stringing the other along or some kind of relationship that’s been built up, even if it’s just friends with benefits. Not to be that guy, I haven’t had that many casual hookups, but the best casual sex I’ve had doesn’t even come close to the sex I’ve had with someone I have an underlying relationship with, you aren’t missing anything except th…
/r/seduction23/11/24 03:01 AM
1

Women take time to warm up to men. Going for a walk after your main date allows to visit more locations, you might stop at a local landmark and then a thrift store to try on some funny clothes etc. this creates a time distortion as if you have already been on multiple dates. Style and mystery figured this stuff out and wrote about it in the game
/r/seduction20/11/24 07:01 PM
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First of all, don’t get super hyped expecting to seduce her. You’ll just raise your expectations too high and start to look desperate and needy unconsciously. Just take her to a nearby coffee shop and if it is still going good then ask her if she wants to go for a walk once you’ve finished there if you think she still wants to be out with you. Watch her body language as you chat and escalate accordingly. Try get some casual touch in there if she seems receptive and definitely try to flirt. It’s …
/r/seduction19/11/24 06:43 PM
2

I’m pessimistic because it sounds like an exact situation that I was in earlier in the year. Women can have different friendship styles than men and occasionally you meet women who will practically treat you the way you would expect a boyfriend to be treated, but from their perspective you are firmly a friend. It can be a real head fuck but only you can really assess it and make a judgement on that. If you haven’t been making your intentions very clear, note how I specifically used the word date…
/r/seduction13/11/24 10:13 PM
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Be bold and hit her with an offer for another set in stone date. Say something like “hey make yourself available next [whenever], I want to take you on an adventure date!”. If that doesn’t pique her interest then she is probably not that invested. Not gonna lie it is coming off as just friends/keeping you around for attention. You don’t want to be adorable, nor do you want to be the guy who she unloads about her day to, not until you’re going steady.
/r/seduction13/11/24 09:06 PM
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Then don’t do meaningless intimacy. It’s cliche but your child is your world now, focus on build an awesome life together with your kid and if a man wants to be part of it then it’s up to him, not trying to say you don’t look after your kid or anything but rather that it’s a mindset thing. This will also help you be less submissive and helpless and help you change your mindset to being more abundant. Men tend to value women who make them work for it more. It’s not hopeless, plenty of men have st…
/r/seduction13/11/24 12:02 AM
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When I was 20 I had my first LTR, it lasted less than a year lmao. Not long after we broke up I met an absolutely stunning girl that I never would have thought I could get with, we had a weirdly large amount of commonality and she ticked all my boxes so I was smitten, turned out it was a fools mate scenario but I certainly didn’t help myself. I was still feeling bummed out that I lost my first relationship because I was a late bloomer dating wise, I was determined to “make this one work “ even t…
/r/seduction12/11/24 06:35 PM
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When you say things like “will it ruin the vibe” etc, it shows that you’re thinking of her as the prize which makes dating transactional, which will be messing with your head and making the process far more difficult than it needs to be. Instead of trying to insert yourself into her world, think of it like you are extending an invitation for her to come into your world. If she doesn’t want to then fine, her loss. I’m willing to bet that you have spent a decent amount of time online in the post m…
/r/seduction08/11/24 05:42 AM
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This is the correct answer. Vulnerability and neediness are two sides of the same coin and it’s really easy for vulnerability to slip into neediness. Imagine expressing to a woman why you want to be in a relationship, a needy answer is something like “because I hate being alone at night and I want someone to come home to” whereas a vulnerable answer would be something like “because I’m comfortable with where my life is and I want to share that with the right person”. The first answer comes from …
/r/seduction08/11/24 12:30 AM
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If they’re just a tool for you to try getting laid then you are a terrible friend. Instead of asking if it’s worth it because you might get some action out of it some time, ask if you enjoy their company and their friendship. If you are hanging out with someone you don’t particularly like just because you want to get in her friend's pants, her friend is going to sense that. If you hang out with a female friend that you have a great friendship, banter, and playful energy with, her friends will be…
/r/seduction04/11/24 07:19 PM
3

Don’t “deal with it”, use it as fuel for your next approach. Take a snapshot of how you feel now and remember that the next time you want to approach someone but don’t, this is how you will feel. Do you want to feel like that over all the unknown possibilities that could come from the approach?
/r/seduction03/11/24 06:15 PM
2

You probably waited too long to organise a date, on and off talking since April would have communicated low interest and, as you say, older women tend to keep things simple. She has someone already so the stakes were incredibly low for her. You shot your shot and it doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong at the actual date
/r/seduction31/10/24 09:22 PM
5

Chase what your goal is
/r/seduction30/10/24 06:24 AM
1

You’re focusing way too much on texting and it’s obvious because you are overanalysing everything. You say you aren’t looking for texting for hours like that’s something to be proud of, yet you’re fussing over her not liking your meme, you need to reframe badly bro. When she said she was busy with exams that was her saying you aren’t a priority, do you think she would tell harry styles that she’s busy with exams? If it were him she’d at least say something about meeting up after. Speaking of whi…
/r/seduction29/10/24 10:12 PM
2

You peak in life when you stop putting in effort to be your best self imo, although it depends If your definition of peaking includes life in general or just how many girls you get. I know guys who are married and living a great life who I would consider at their peak, I know guys who are married, miserable and have let themselves go to near irreversible levels. Same for single guys
/r/seduction28/10/24 06:17 PM
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I got better by reading a couple of dating books and actually putting the content into practice, that’s the important part. You need to take an honest look at yourself and figure out what you are doing wrong and then put in the work to fix it. It’s not too late for you at all. Many people who get into learning about game, including myself, were late to the party on sex and relationships. 17 is perfect Looks aren’t as important as people might say but you should still try to look as best as you c…
/r/seduction23/10/24 06:30 PM
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Maybe? I think it sounds too cutesy, wishy washy. It’s always better to be direct and upfront, “hey! Would you like to go on a date with me? How’s Friday night for you?”
/r/seduction23/10/24 12:09 AM
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If she unmatched she wasn’t invested. I think you could have spun one of your lines into a date sooner rather than being suggestive. Eg. “I think we’d have to date before that, how’s Saturday night for a drink?” Or “I suck at pool too, let’s meet Saturday night and see who sucks most, winner pays for drinks” Be more affirmative with your date plans instead of beating around the bush
/r/seduction22/10/24 10:07 PM
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Just proceed normally with flirting and seduction and be open and honest about your intentions when it comes to that point. If she says no then accept it gracefully. IMO it’s best to always meet for a drink first even if it’s a one night stand. It’s never happened to me but I’ve had friends who have had some bad experiences with hookups
/r/seduction21/10/24 09:05 PM
5

Ross Jeffries Mystery Mark manson I’m sure the list goes on. I think the only dating coach I’ve seen who might be conventionally attractive is Tripp Kramer, even then you can tell he’s put in work. There’s a reason these guys got into the game and looks are part of it
/r/seduction21/10/24 06:28 PM
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Admit you fucked up, ask for forgiveness, and be ready to be a man and move on with dignity (and let her do the same) in the probable event she says no. Next time don’t take your partner for granted
/r/seduction21/10/24 08:42 AM
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You can but I have yet to see it be as powerful as instant chemistry. It’s often not worth the effort
/r/seduction20/10/24 11:18 PM
3

I wouldn’t think of it as them seeing it as another day and another dude. You had an enjoyable night, it didn’t go your way in the end but you had fun and ran game and gained experience. It’s their loss for not wanting more of those nights with you, it’s another night and another set for you
/r/seduction18/10/24 07:14 AM
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Sometimes you go out for the night and forget the world and all your problems, but then real life sets back in and you have laundry to do, bills to pay, work to go to, and the enthusiasm just dies. It happens to guys and girls and probably doesn’t have anything to do with you
/r/seduction18/10/24 12:25 AM
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Old tinder was great. I’d take that over the brutally monetised modern tinder any day
/r/seduction16/10/24 06:11 PM
1

Why do you want his top 5 books if you have already read many others?
/r/seduction15/10/24 04:36 AM
1

Read “The Game”. It’s more of an autobiography of the guys who figured out the basics, but it presents them in a way that gives them context by using stories from when they were all out trying to pick up women
/r/seduction15/10/24 01:00 AM
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For clothing, if you aren’t super fashion conscious then keep it simple. Make sure your clothes fit and then build an outfit out of one piece of coloured clothing is a good place to start. I’m big on the black/dark pants and black/white t shirt casual combo, and then having a pop of colour in an over shirt or coat or whatever. One thing not to cheap out on is shoes. Everyone notices shoes and you don’t want to be that “but they’re cheap and exactly the same as adidas” guy. If you want to get mor…
/r/seduction14/10/24 09:04 AM
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Just like financial advice. Each author has a different spin to peddle their book or course or whatever, but the fundamental information is always the same
/r/seduction14/10/24 08:02 AM
3

Never go to dinner on a first date bro! Don’t do anything more formal than casual drinks, if it doesn’t work out then you are only out of pocket for a drink or two.
/r/seduction11/10/24 01:03 AM
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Hit her up the night before, gauge her reaction and go from there. Date other girls in the meantime anyway. She gave a reason and rescheduled so it’s not dire, but trust your gut instinct
/r/seduction10/10/24 10:29 PM
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Gym isn’t recommended because it basically amplifies all areas of attracting women and makes them more difficult; self confidence, receptivity, competition etc. it’s basically seduction on hard mode Your problem is that all you do is go to the gym and church. Get out to new places and try new things, a supplement store isn’t going to cut it. That said you can meet women at the gym, just be absolutely sure that they are interested and don’t get a reputation for trying to ask out everything that m…
/r/seduction10/10/24 09:41 PM
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You’ve already got good answers for nice guy vs bad guy. Since you mentioned the guy beating his girlfriend's father I’ll add that there is a difference between the Bad Guy archetype and the straight up abusive man, which this guy clearly is. There’s a lot more to it in those relationships than just being a bad guy, and a lot of it has to do with her as much as him. You can pull knowledge from the bad guy archetype to use in seduction. It should go without saying that you don’t want to be like t…
/r/seduction10/10/24 08:51 PM
1

Leagues only exist if you believe they exist, and if you believe they exist then you are only holding yourself back
/r/seduction09/10/24 10:48 AM
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Stop buying into their frame of high expectations. You are making a self fulfilling prophecy; girl meets you and you feel that she has high expectations, she senses that you aren’t meeting those expectations whether they existed or not, she gets turned off by the inherent neediness that manifests from this and leaves. Hold your frame! “This is what you get when you date me because that is what I want/how I do relationships”
/r/seduction09/10/24 03:43 AM
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My opinion on gym approaching is that all you can do is keep an eye out for obvious signs of interest. I wouldn’t bother approaching in the gym unless I was very sure she was interested. Other than that just approach like you would anyone else. Sounds like you have already read the basics and the warnings
/r/seduction06/10/24 02:43 AM
1

It’s probably a good thing that you are self aware enough to not game a waitress when you’re out for dinner with your mother
/r/seduction05/10/24 11:37 PM
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Depends on the country and culture. In my country, and probably the other anglosphere countries, that would come across as some cringey m’lady shit.
/r/seduction04/10/24 01:18 AM
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I won’t deny that peacocking is powerful when used properly, but I think it gets badly explained and comes across as “wear outrageous stuff and girls will come” a lot of the time. yeah girls will probably be attracted to an outrageous accessory but where do you go from there? What story have you given that ring or necklace that you can tell her? How do you proceed when her drunken lout guy friend says your painted nails look gay? both of your examples had a line, a story to sell it. That’s the i…
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:15 PM
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Mystery got legitimacy for his outrageous outfits by being a magician. If you’re gonna peacock like that then you need either the persona or the sheer confidence to pull it off. People are more fashion conscious now due to instagram and Pinterest etc, so token peacocking with random outrageous crap risks looking clownish. If you look at pictures of mystery and the game guys back in the day, their outfits are pretty corny by today’s standards. Even for the 2000s some of it is questionable I would…
/r/seduction03/10/24 11:11 AM
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There aren’t really any “modern dating” books because the fundamentals of attraction were figured out and written down decades ago now. Books like Models, The Game, Magnetic etc and dating coaches all preach these fundamentals for the most part. While we have had a rise in online dating, and social movements like “me too”, those fundamentals haven’t changed. It’s up to you to figure out what you want and how to apply that theory to the context of your dating life.
/r/seduction27/09/24 01:21 AM
1

A better way to reframe it for a confidence boost is that you aren’t learning to manipulate women for sex, you are learning to manipulate yourself to be more attractive
/r/seduction24/09/24 10:26 PM
1

There’s personal high value which is demonstrating high value as a person. This is basic stuff like being confident, well groomed, fit, having an abundance mentality, engaging and listening etc Then there’s social value, which is your value amongst the social setting you hang out in. This is harder because you need to think about what type of person and crowd you want to roll with and then acquire the skills/items that will help elevate you. For example if your thing is business and high rolling…
/r/seduction24/09/24 10:03 PM
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It’s satire. Very true but posted ironically im guessing
/r/seduction24/09/24 09:47 PM
9

I’ve had a female friend show me her tinder. She very very rarely looked past the first photo when swiping and only looked at the profile further when messaging
/r/seduction24/09/24 07:16 PM
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If it’s the post I saw it was basically just tips on how to look your best that everyone should follow, pretty basic stuff too. Being a fuckboy is about lying, manipulating and fucking with women to serve your own needs, that’s all
/r/seduction24/09/24 02:09 AM
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Move on unless she initiates. Matches don’t mean shit anymore. Plenty of people just use matches to play hot or not, or to get validation, or just because they are bored. As a general rule if she ghosted twice without providing an alternative date, you should move on
/r/seduction16/09/24 07:56 PM
1

Friendzone, at least that’s her frame. I’ve moved on
/r/seduction16/09/24 12:36 AM
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Happens all the time. Likes on stories don’t mean anything, and if it did it it’s a stupid and immature way for her to try reach out especially if there’s a message waiting for her reply. I recently got rejected by a girl and she still likes all my stories, sometimes replies to them even. You could follow up your message in a couple more days with a “hey how’s it going?” But I wouldn’t bother unless you have a time to commit to visiting her. She might have just gotten bored of you when then ther…
/r/seduction16/09/24 12:23 AM
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Go up to the first random girl you see on university campus or even just out on the street and say “hey my phone died, do you have the time?” When she says what time it is just smile, say thanks and walk away. There is no other goal or motive but asking for the time. Also I have no idea what you mean about not having enough money? You don’t need money to talk to someone
/r/seduction06/09/24 04:48 AM
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Its very real but It only works on women who are invested in you to a certain degree imo. If a woman is medium interest or below and they see you with another girl they don’t seem to care in my experience, they can get attention elsewhere. But if they are invested it drives them crazy. Your ex is invested because she dated you and is comparing herself to your new gf and feeling like she isn’t as good as her, so she is trying to make herself feel better by being on her “best behaviour”.
/r/seduction04/09/24 02:35 AM
2

It’s tempting to be straight up and tell her how you feel but you want to avoid that. Instead you need to SHOW her how you feel and then let her be the one to initiate that kind of conversation. You do this by being deliberate about asking her out on a date, which I assume you have already done. The next step would be to physically escalate with the goal of going for a kiss. Ironically you can tell her how much you want to kiss her or you can even ask “would you like to kiss me?” If she says yes…
/r/seduction03/09/24 10:37 PM
2

Seduction material often makes it sound like you can literally have anyone you want at all times, but the reality is that she needs to be receptive in the first place. Even the pros get blown out, they just don’t put that in their videos. Sounds like it was her just not being there for it that day, which could be for a lot of reasons unrelated to you. You say you were both messaging a lot before this? I’d pull back for a week or so and see if she comes to hit you up
/r/seduction03/09/24 07:25 PM
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The hard reality is that not every girl you go on dates with leads to anything, even when you do everything right and are on top of your game, in fact it quite often doesn’t. It’s like basketball highlight reels, it looks amazing seeing all the slam dunks but you don’t see all the plays that didn’t go anywhere. Instead of feeling down that you lost out on this girl, think of it as being good that you discovered it wasn’t the right vibe and you can move on to the next one. I don’t think she was s…
/r/seduction03/09/24 01:29 AM
7

Make sure your party is good and then you’ll be basking in the social proof of being a great party host. I assume you know how to be good party host so I won’t go into all that, but make sure that you are getting around and socialising with all your guests specifically. Social proof is one of/if not the strongest attractor so you want to show her how you are the life of the party with a good social circle, do it right and she’ll be following you all night and then you can create an “us bubble” b…
/r/seduction31/08/24 09:09 PM
6

Fools mate doesn’t have much to do with this now, it just means that you met someone who had the express intention of hooking up. You are a rebound though and rebounds usually always play out on the rebounder’s terms, because any form of attachment or clingy behaviour might remind them of relationships that they are currently not interested in. Act chill/aloof to the situation, don’t invest in it anymore than she does and continue with normal confident seduction behaviour. That’s the only way to…
/r/seduction31/08/24 08:42 PM
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The alternative to the test that others have mentioned is that its her way of bantering. I know couples who have very deadpan humour and rip the shit out of each other. It looks brutal from the outside
/r/seduction30/08/24 04:38 AM
3

Because women are more in tune with/communicate through emotions, it’s not necessarily making her just feel good. You want to make her feel a range of emotions as well as good. Make her laugh with your witty banter, make her feel empathy with your vulnerability, challenge her with your unwavering opinions, make her curious by leaving something vague and not being in her orbit 24/7. Stuff like that This stuff is the answer to the age old question of why you see seemingly amazing women with seemin…
/r/seduction29/08/24 07:15 PM
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You’re in the right sub dude, look up posts in here about inner game because it’s what you need
/r/seduction29/08/24 06:13 AM
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Bro. You need to cut this attitude out immediately, it will do nothing for you except set you up to fail and make that failure feel 100x worse than it needs to be
/r/seduction29/08/24 01:04 AM
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Again you’re applying that male dating logic, for guys we often think of dating as maths, banter + laughter = success like 2 + 2 = 4. For women it’s more like music composition, there are no right or wrong answers, different parts make you feel different emotions, there might be chords or lyrics that are sad but the composition is overall happy. You might have a great date but if the investment isn’t there then that’s it, no matter how far you escalate
/r/seduction29/08/24 01:01 AM
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Sounds like you are thinking about it like a man, as if dating is a logical checklist of things to tick off and if you have them you are successful. Women respond to and communicate through feeling, they generally dont approach these things with the same kind of logical problem solving energy as men. They don’t care that you have the logical prerequisites like car, fitness etc (although they help), they care about how you make them feel. Other than that, this is just what modern online dating is…
/r/seduction28/08/24 11:20 PM
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You can’t buy into the frame that they are out of your league under any circumstances
/r/seduction28/08/24 11:04 PM
1

You have 100% control over the choices you make. You have no control but some influence over the choices of the women you date make. Seduction is learning how to build and use that influence
/r/seduction25/08/24 11:50 PM
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The basic theory is already established and will be responsible for most of your success where theory comes into play, as opposed to “advanced” theory which may give you the edge in certain specific situations. If you have the basics then that’s all you need to get out there.
/r/seduction22/08/24 07:17 PM
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Because if it works out then great, but anyone who has experienced it not working out can tell that it can become a major headache That’s before you add on variables like contract obligations, HR, power dynamics, gossiping co workers, being around your partner 24/7 etc. Sure there are situations where it can work but for most people it’s just blanket advice that it’s best to avoid dating co workers
/r/seduction20/08/24 10:19 PM
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Attraction is physical, mental and sexual. She said she thinks you’re physically attractive but she was missing either the mental attraction (personality) or the sexual attraction. There’s not much you can do about mental attraction because that means compromising your personality, which you shouldn’t have to do. For sexual attraction you should be flirting and escalating to keep her excited and show here you are attracted to her. Attraction is in the eye of the beholder though. Sometimes you ju…
/r/seduction18/08/24 08:21 AM
26

Attraction is more than just looks. She either isn’t attracted to your personality or she didn’t have fun with you when you met
/r/seduction18/08/24 07:54 AM
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I’m not going to write any because you shouldn’t be texting anything like that, the frame of mind is completely wrong. Texting lines is simpy no matter what you say, it breaks the tension in her head about whether or not you like her and ruins the mystery. text game is contextual and if you’re going to do it then you should be sending flirty messages that are subtle and relate to what you’re talking about. What you are talking about should be with the goal of making a date and meeting her in per…
/r/seduction17/08/24 09:29 PM
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You can’t flirt 24/7, it’s too exhausting. Pick your moments and make them count As a side note those lines are simpy and corny as fuck. Don’t send them to anyone you aren’t sleeping with
/r/seduction17/08/24 12:37 AM
1

Try finding something symbolic that you can use to replace that closure feeling with. When something doesn’t work out treat yourself to your favourite meal and an evening of gaming, or go for a drive and listen to your favourite music. It can be anything but the catch is that it’s something that you can enjoy solo, that you can really be present in, and after that ritual you consider it case closed, done done on to the next one
/r/seduction16/08/24 05:58 AM
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Gear your profile towards it by setting it to show you want short term fun or a short term relationship, don’t want kids etc, you could try a bio about how you’re up for adventures or prefer meeting over drinks to texting or something like that. As always your goal is to meet her in person, I have a rule about always grabbing a drink first so you can gauge you aren’t meeting a psychopath who is going to be trouble. You have to know that a lot of girls won’t be keen and be willing to accept it an…
/r/seduction16/08/24 05:05 AM
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Ask her on a date, you’ll find out pretty fast
/r/seduction16/08/24 03:52 AM
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Talking from personal experience, Getting closure will only make you feel better for as long as it takes for your brain to spin it into “ oh man so if I just done x it would have been different “ and then you need more closure to confirm whether or not it would have been true that doing x would have different. You just end up in a feedback loop of self pity. As the saying goes “grant me the strength to change the things I can, the courage to accept the things I can’t, and the wisdom to know the …
/r/seduction15/08/24 11:10 PM
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Dude, honestly you sound like your just this girls work wife. Don’t try to fuck someone in a relationship that you work with, it’s not worth it and there’s plenty of other girls out there
/r/seduction15/08/24 09:53 PM
4

Most of the non-pickup style books just repeat the same stuff in different ways, same with financial advice books. The author might have different ways of explaining them, but the basics are the same. Other than Models I recommend The Game, it’s more of a biography but it follows the guys who figured out a lot of the theory behind attraction and it’s great for inspiration that you can learn and change yourself
/r/seduction15/08/24 07:23 PM
3

OP forgot the record scratch sfx
/r/seduction14/08/24 09:35 PM
3

I never would have thought of that!
/r/seduction14/08/24 07:22 PM
5

Also caution around trashing others to get girls, even if they are a jerk. It’s ratty behaviour
/r/seduction14/08/24 01:39 AM
2

Sounds like more trouble than it is worth tbh. The long game is risky for becoming just friends if you overcook it, and fizzling out if you undercook. Striking a balance between the two is near impossible in my experience. I would reframe it as why should you have to wait for this girl anyway? You’re awesome and she should want to at least have a post LTR fling with you, if she doesn’t then her loss
/r/seduction13/08/24 10:02 PM
2

Good write up. With the lack of communication now on basic things like a rejection text you really have to trust your gut instinct on what you think the vibe is, in my experience it’s usually right. It doesn’t make the lack of communication any less frustrating though, I can remember the days when you would be considered trashy for ending something via text, nowadays it’s a breathe of fresh air just to get a straight up rejection with no games
/r/seduction11/08/24 09:04 PM
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A friend of mine showed me her 1500+ pending likes on tinder, she bought gold just to show me what it looks like and then through out the catch up time she whittled it down and only matched maybe 5 of the guys
/r/seduction11/08/24 08:54 PM
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Doesn’t matter, it still means they want to talk to you and you can use it as a springboard to make conversation
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:03 PM
5

I know right? OP is missing all of the emotional manipulation that actually makes a fuckboi
/r/seduction10/08/24 11:01 PM
8

It means people want to talk to you, if you want to pull talk back
/r/seduction10/08/24 10:50 PM
3

Just be cool and don’t make her feel rushed or pressured. If your relaxed then she’ll be relaxed. if you’re trying to do things to get her relaxed but you’re also desperate to fuck, she’ll pick up on it unconsciously and and it will put her on edge
/r/seduction07/08/24 09:56 AM
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The Game - outdated methods but the underlying theory still stands today. Also great as motivation that you can change Models - more grounded in inner game that is sustainable and actionable
/r/seduction06/08/24 08:11 AM
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All the time, it’s great advice. For online dating it’s extra important to screen women for two reasons. Firstly it’s super easy and no feelings will be hurt by doing it, I’m not big on tattoos so I see big tattoos I swipe left, I’m not ready to settle into being a homebody so if I see signs of that I swipe left. That all might sound harsh but it ties into the second, and most important reason; if you swipe right on everyone hoping for matches the algorithm will rank you lower. Having some stand…
/r/seduction31/07/24 07:24 PM
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This guys answer is on the money bro. Women have a 6th sense for weeding out thirsty dudes. Also looks don’t mean anywhere near as much as you might think. Try slowing it down and letting the attraction build over 3-5 dates and see what happens
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:07 PM
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Unless you have absolutely no understanding of social cues, just observe and trust your gut feeling. Old school pick up advice was to look for 3 indicators of interest, things like eye contact, standing nearby, open body language, asking what your name is, etc
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:32 PM
2

In my experience Snapchat is best for building attraction with girls that are already interested.
/r/seduction30/07/24 06:53 AM
3

If your goal is to use seduction to only satisfy your needs, validate yourself and you don’t care about anyone else, then yes it’s very cruel. If you are honest about your intentions, respect boundaries and feelings, and try to make the dating process fun for all parties, then no it’s not cruel. Everyone has different wants, needs and expectations for relationships. If you know what you want then live it and don’t compromise or compare yourself to others.
/r/seduction30/07/24 12:08 AM
2

I don’t want to dogpile on you but I second this opinion bro. Your style is nearly there but it needs some tweaking. Nothing major, but what you currently have is just not quite right
/r/seduction29/07/24 12:36 AM
3

Go low/no contact and move on. I shot my shot and it didn’t work out so that’s the only option
/r/seduction28/07/24 07:34 AM
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Mystery and all the other guys in The Game pioneered a lot of relationship and attraction theory that still stands today, things like demonstrating value, not being needy, framing, stuff like that. If you copy paste their routines and methods exactly however it would be well out of date, no one under 35 is going to know who the fuck Maury Povich is for the Maury Povich opener for instance and if you see pictures of those guys peacocking back in the day they look like fucking clowns. RSD pivoted …
/r/seduction24/07/24 11:26 PM
9

If you do go out with someone, just make sure they aren’t some thirsty weasel who is going to try undercut and compete with you for every girl. That’s what it was like with my old high school friends back when we didn’t know shit and everyone just crab bucketed each other.
/r/seduction24/07/24 01:38 AM
3

Having female friends is great for many reasons. BUT if you’re hurt and you don’t think you can be around her anymore then you need to look after your mental health first. If that’s the case be cool with her if/when you communicate but step back, go cold, un add, whatever you need to do. Don’t try sell yourself the lie that maybe something will come of it one day, trust me on that one from my personal experience. You’ll just give yourself more pain. Keep your head up and keep trying my man!
/r/seduction23/07/24 09:58 AM
2

It’s worth it for an entertaining read but don’t take it at face value. It’s condensed and exaggerated to make it more interesting. It has a lot of great theory about attraction and relationships that still stands, but the techniques and routines are pretty obsolete if you try copy paste them. It’s also important to know that the moral of the story is that game can help you improve yourself in a lot of aspects of your life, but trying to fill gaps in your life with pussy won’t work and to have m…
/r/seduction23/07/24 09:34 AM
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It’s just a shit test, joke it off as you’re doing and don’t overthink it. as with all shit tests, she’s doing it unconsciously and you fail by making a big deal out of it. I’d just say “only a little bit, but we can meet up somewhere else if you’d prefer”
/r/seduction21/07/24 05:05 AM
43

No, they just want followers my dude
/r/seduction18/07/24 08:42 AM
4

Bro, the whole goal of using seduction to get a GF is to have her get to this vulnerable stage where you can have real talk. Ideally you need her to initiate it, as she just has, because if we initiate it and misjudge it’s super needy. Your best bet is to hit her back up and say you suck at this but you’d love to take her out on a chill coffee date and a stroll, and that the coffee is on you for being such an idiot lmao
/r/seduction16/07/24 08:35 PM
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The short answer is to create a lifestyle of fun and abundance for yourself so that you eliminate your neediness, but still have an interest in the people around you so as not to be self absorbed, thereby making you a fun and interesting person to be around. Creating this lifestyle, or learning to fake it if that’s your preferred method, is dependent on multiple factors of what your lifestyle needs more or less of. Ultimately only you can figure out these factors, or pay someone to do it for you…
/r/seduction14/07/24 10:57 PM
11

Idk bro, I think you might just be gynocentroficationised
/r/seduction13/07/24 11:54 PM
3

Honestly just ask. Girls like talking about sex, they just need to know you’re cool with it too first and you’re not gonna slut shame them or get too excited and get weird about it
/r/seduction11/07/24 07:54 AM
0

I’m guessing it’s a quality problem since I doubt there is a lack of tinder bogans willing to root whatever hole they can get. Ask yourself what kind of guy you’re looking for, what your non negotiables are, and then work on what you need to attract that type and put yourself out in the places you’ll find them. Make sure that you are working on yourself and your own life and goals in the meantime
/r/seduction04/07/24 09:45 PM
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Sounds like you need to build your self confidence a little more, have an objective look at yourself and find what you like and dislike and then figure out what you can do to improve those areas. It’s a bit hard to assess and give actionable advice without knowing a bit more about what you feel is holding you back. Tall girls, at least in my opinion, have a natural elegance that short girls don’t have which you could play into. However guys can find tall girls a little bit intimidating so perhap…
/r/seduction04/07/24 07:43 PM
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Height has the benefit of being very masculine, shorter has the benefit of being way less intimidating. I know a few guys who play the goofy short dude routine very well and come in under the radar. Tall guys can look extremely unapproachable if you aren’t always smiling and looking friendly, especially if you’re packing some muscle too
/r/seduction03/07/24 09:21 PM
2

I wish height mattered as much as people said it did, then I would never have had to learn game. It’s one of those things that women love if you have it, but they don’t really notice it if you don’t, nowhere near as much as they say they do anyway. In my own experience I’ve been rejected thrice in recent months by girls who went on to date guys who look like 35 year old dads in a 5ft something frame, so really even looks don’t matter that much.
/r/seduction03/07/24 09:13 PM
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Keep an abundance mentality. Talk to and pursue multiple girls. Don’t put any one on a pedestal, I remember seeing a saying here once that was basically “no matter how amazing you think she is, someone somewhere is sick of her shit”
/r/seduction30/06/24 05:47 AM
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Try to get more playful during the conversation. Cold reading is a great one if you’re deep enough into a conversation to have picked up things about her. Instead of asking her about something, make an educated guess about something about herself. It makes you seem more insightful and even when you get it wrong she’ll most likely keep the conversation going by telling you the correct answer. Another technique is to create an “us bubble”. It’s a little bit harder to explain but you basically want…
/r/seduction29/06/24 11:59 PM
7

Ask people a question and then learn to bounce off their answers to create discussion. You can practice this with literally anyone. A lot of advice is to talk about what you want to talk about and entertain yourself in the conversation with that. That’s a good idea but you would be surprised how little people get asked about themselves these days
/r/seduction29/06/24 11:15 PM
1

There isn’t a set thing to say, welcome to what us guys experience (many of whom including myself never got taught this) which is that you need to communicate your intentions and polarise her through your actions. In masculine to feminine dating the masculine gives/dominates and the feminine receives/submits, and the feminine is the gatekeeper of sex but the masculine is the gatekeeper of the relationship. This isn’t literally dominating like an abusive partner, but rather a mindset of leading i…
/r/seduction26/06/24 11:23 PM
7

Go by behaviour, not appearance
/r/seduction26/06/24 09:58 PM
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I mean I was being serious. OP is talking about how much time effort and money goes into a 1 in 15 chance of getting laid, which it sounds like he is most interested in. Just get a prostitute and cut out the middle part….
/r/seduction26/06/24 04:04 AM
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I’m sure $1500 will get you a nice prostitute
/r/seduction25/06/24 10:01 PM
4

Shit testing is not a set thing that girls do on purpose, unless they are a psychopath. A shit test is just a self fulfilled loop to explain a guy acting needy to a specific situation and putting her off - it only exists because you failed it. If you ever have to ask “is this a shit test, what do I do?” The answer is always don’t act needy
/r/seduction19/06/24 01:18 AM
3

You can’t reliably create sexual tension over the phone unless you are already hooking up, or it’s a fools mate tinder situation. Ask her out
/r/seduction12/06/24 11:20 PM
9

Sometimes you can do everything perfectly and still lose because of some serendipitously stupid happenstance. You just have to pick yourself up and keep going -experienced that myself recently, sometimes it just doesn’t work and you need to accept that
/r/seduction08/06/24 10:28 PM
1

When I’m locked in and trying it’s great, when I’m not thinking about it it slips quite bad. Also still have some sticking points to work on
/r/seduction03/06/24 10:55 PM
1

One of my friends is short and he dates a model. Earlier this year I asked out a girl and got curbed because she wanted to date a guy who is shorter than her. Height really doesn’t matter as much as it gets hyped up
/r/seduction23/05/24 07:00 PM
2

And bad fashion sense. Haircut and a wardrobe overhaul are powerful because they both make a big difference, and you can literally do it in just one day and look like a new man
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:47 PM
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I’ve found jerking it too much makes me complacent, like I’ll feel like I don’t need to talk to that girl because she’s not really my type, or try schedule that date that will probably be boring and go nowhere. It seems to make me more pessimistic and keeps me down. I’ve also tried completely abstaining and while I enjoy the energy, it’s not very sustainable and when I’ve done it long term I’ve kinda gone the other extreme of not being interested in sex. I’ve found that going no porn and trying …
/r/seduction18/02/24 07:59 PM
1

Your style helps you attract attract girls in whichever scene you move in, like if you’re a businessman who goes to networking events then a well fitting suit will make you look better than gym gear for example. You might look cool to a punk or emo girl with this look but you’ll polarise a lot of others like gym girls, girly girls etc who probably won’t like it. Peacocking like they did in the game days was necessary to get/hold the attention of club girls who were drunk and partying. I’m not co…
/r/seduction17/02/24 09:40 PM
18

iois are for gauging interest AFTER you have approached. Be bold and approach someone who catches your eye, and pay attention for iois over the course of the interaction
/r/seduction12/02/24 06:07 AM
2

By having an abundance mentality. An abundance of people to talk to and hobbies and personal shit to do. There are so many people to meet, places to go, things to experience in life, why should you get hung up over some bum who doesn’t even want to talk to you?
/r/seduction07/02/24 08:39 PM
0

OP set himself up for and failed a shit test on the first message. He should have said something like “oh wait you mean you didn’t get the official invite to the hinge standouts club? Oooh I’ve already said too much and they’re watching me….”
/r/seduction07/02/24 08:22 PM
3

Had a short work contract where nobody knew me. I was determined to reinvent myself and challenged myself to smile and hold eye contact with my coworkers as much as possible. I even had reminders set on my phone to remind me. If you struggle a lot I recommend watching eye contact videos on YouTube. Sounds dumb but it really helps break that immediate instinct to look away
/r/seduction31/01/24 02:16 AM
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I started just getting good at putting together basic black and white outfits, white tee black jeans and black or white sneakers. From there I started adding in subtle muted colours like some coloured socks, or a muted coloured tee. From there you can get good at basic colour matching like shirt matching your shoes or socks. Or adding statement pieces like a graphic tee or a flashy over shirt or something. I usually stick with either one colour piece or one statement piece to keep it simple and …
/r/seduction29/01/24 10:40 PM
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