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Any benefit to men feminism does is incidental. Any harm it does is justified on the basis that it evens the score Feminism is ostensibly about gender equality, but in reality it is a women’s advocacy group. Which is fine, but just be honest about what it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 11:45 AM
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And if they do change jobs, do you think it would be from the exhaustion of being objectified? Or the fact that getting to the point where you can be objectified is hard? “Laughing is intentional. “ Not if the person you are laughing at is funny enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 04:27 PM
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Pay aside, you think getting laughs makes them feel bad? Like they walk away from a set where they killed it and think “wow, I need extra pay to make up for the extra objectification I had to face on stage tonight?”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 11:40 AM
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Pay aside, you think getting laughs makes them feel bad? Like they walk away from a set where they killed it and think “wow, I need extra pay to make up for the extra objectification I had to face on stage tonight?”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/21 11:32 AM
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Being the one who must pursue, and the one who makes the choice are very different positions to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:41 PM
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No, life must be very tough of you are that sensitive. It’s not a lie.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 10:55 AM
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Life must be very tough for you. You poor thing. You have my pity.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 09:29 AM
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Let’s not play their stupid games. Neither are that bad. It’s potentially very annoying. Let’s put them both in that category. If an unsolicited nude triggers disgust, it’s a sign of an extremely regressive attitude towards sexuality in my books. MRM have divulged into some sort of competition for who can whine harder: them or feminists.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 01:39 AM
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Also when pressed, feminists will admit that a lot of these harmful norms are enforced by women themselves. Kind of a misnomer if it is being created by women, maybe even primarily.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 09:48 PM
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This is exactly it. The whole concept is created by bending the frames of what is toxic and what is masculinity. They take that aren’t necessarily toxic as toxic, for example, stoicism. Then they take things that aren’t masculine and frame them as masculine, for example, Donald Trump, whose whole personality seems to be made of failings of masculinity, became the poster boy for toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 09:46 PM
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“wants a piece of warm flesh“ what a bizarre take on sex. I wonder why this neo-Puritan take on casual sex took root. Seems regressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 08:46 PM
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“But I have a hard time anyone looking for a lasting relationship.” I don’t think that is what we are discussing here. If you are looking for a relationship, in that case you need to look at more than just someone who ideally has a fetish for you. You need that plus more. I think when one person ends up feeling used it is because there is a misalignment of interests. We all have that when we date, unless you get super lucky right away. Sometimes you will have sex with a person and not fall in lo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 06:24 PM
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To me, there could be nothing more humanity-affirming than someone noticing/appreciating my sexuality or being turned on by me. Even if they don’t notice anything else about me. Actually, especially if they don’t care about anything else about me. Even if I am not performing. The concept just does not make sense to me. I find that if appreciation or desire of my sexuality is contingent upon other facts about me, I find that makes me feel worse-more like an object. Unconditional appreciation, now…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 10:54 AM
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It is. Not bashing people for having the fetishes they do would make the world more comfortable for those with that fetish though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 09:51 PM
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“It literally is tho because i am only seen as a part of me not as a person.“ one of the most humanity-affirming parts of you- your sexuality. You might not like that, but many people do. Stand-up comedians don’t typically complain that people who pay just to come to watch them on stage and laugh at their jokes, and don’t see them as anything but a comedian in that context, but somehow we have allowed that attitude to infect sex, and make the whole thing a lot more sensitive and repressive for p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 03:15 PM
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Fuck em then! You aren’t obligated to engage with em. They might have gay man fetishes. You might not like that. Other gay men might. Maybe it is rare for gay men to like that. I don’t know. But people are allowed to have and express fetishes. That doesn’t mean you are required to engage with that, but they are allowed to have it and express it. I am sure there are dudes out there who are happy they get to be some woman’s fetish. I would love that. You wouldn’t, but that’s fine, you do you, don’…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 02:49 PM
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Sexuality has a way of making people uncomfortable in some situations. Ever have someone have a crush on you that you don’t reciprocate? It’s uncomfortable. Ever have a crush on somebody who didn’t reciprocate? It’s uncomfortable. Ever have a sexuality society doesn’t consider “normal”? It’s uncomfortable. Ever have a fetish people don’t approve of? It’s uncomfortable. Ever wanted to indulge a fetish a partner didn’t want to participate in? It’s uncomfortable. Ever had a partner who wanted to en…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 02:28 PM
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We need to be careful we don’t make the same mistakes as feminists. There is no such thing as sexual objectification. It is an Orwellian oxymoron. Your sexuality is a major part of your humanity. Nobody complains stand-up comedians are comedically objectified when they are on stage being appreciated for nothing but a tool to make people laugh. But a stripper, well for some reason that particular facet of humanity is a bit taboo so we seem uncomfortable appreciating and being appreciated for pure…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/21 12:49 PM
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This is why it can be so hard for both sexes to find a partner. See as a man, I have to weed out women who want to wait for sex because it tells me that either she has prudish attitudes towards sex, aren’t viscerally sexually attracted to me, or are playing games, or have a low libido, all of which are dealbreakers for an LtR for me. I don’t slut shame though. That is primarily a woman-woman phenomena anyways. I get that women taking my preferred strategy may result in them getting burned, but p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 04:41 PM
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Yup. Human sexuality is one big missed hi 5. This is why it can be difficult for both to find partners. Any women who just holds that attitude without any patience or understanding about my situation either, isn’t a good match for me either. That has gotten me burned in the past as well. That is ok. I wouldn’t want to rush and end up with the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:36 PM
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Men might slut shame by your measure “a lot” but the studies show that women do it even more. https://thoughtcatalog.com/james-b-barnes/2014/09/new-study-proves-that-men-dont-slut-shame-rich-women-do/ “And those guys also complain about how they aren’t “getting laid” when their attitude towards women is absolutely deplorable.” Really the same can be said of anybody who is frustrated that it’s difficult for them to find sexual partners, male or female. It is just more likely for men to be in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:33 PM
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I have personally always dated with the mantra that if sex isn’t happening soon, or if there is any playing hard to get, I will not pursue. I am fully of the ilk that if a woman truly wants you, you will know it. Maybe some women do play hard to get, but I am not interested in game-players. And maybe she isn’t playing, and she is serious, in which case I will come off like a creep or a chump if I keep pursuing. Better to just drop it if there isn’t an immediate clear sexual attraction. If she th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 11:55 AM
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I wouldn’t take what I said too factually dude. Just trying to tag a vibe to the tone of the article.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 12:23 PM
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I don’t know for sure because I wasn’t there, but from popular depictions in the media, that is what I know about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 12:10 PM
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Lol if you read this and flip the genders, it reads like it was written by a man in the 1950s for women entering the workplace.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/21 11:42 AM
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When it comes to sexuality, they have lots of ways of framing men as bad. The concept of sexual objectification and “male gaze” comes to mind. Sexual objectification seems to be an oxymoron to me. A stripper is, according to them, being objectified. A stand-up comedian, not so much. They assume that appreciating one aspect of a person means treating them like an object, and assuming that is the only quality they have- as long as that one aspect is sexuality. Do you think comedians cry about how …
/r/MensRights03/07/21 07:13 PM
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You could also ask the inverse: Why are women more afraid despite having lower risk? And that answer is in large part the media. When a woman dies, in an attack, it makes more sellable news because it tugs on heart strings more. The media many times doesn’t even mention the gender when casualties are male, and may not make a story on it. They are more likely to do so when the victim is female. I think you are also on to something and that is awareness. I think you are right that many men don’t k…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/21 11:01 AM
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Casual sex is a bit of an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:14 PM
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“media machine is good at misdirecting their ire“ precisely. “The one thing that they all have in common is that many of their material issues primarily stem from classism” hit the nail on the head on that one. The movie “the free state of jones” covered this issue really well. It was how poor white enlisted civil war runaways and slaves converged on the underground railway. Really, their situations were equally exploitive, but most of them continued hating each other which served the interests …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/21 02:52 PM
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Or even Trans. Nobody can call you out on that either. If they say that you aren’t acting the way a woman would act, you can then call them a sexist. Push them on how they think a woman “should” act/dress, etc.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 11:28 AM
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Not sure where you hang out on Reddit, but yes, the Reddit I see, both misogyny and racism are incredibly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:33 AM
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I find it interesting how they have to convince each other that they really are oppressed. If you aren’t being treated fairly, you don’t need to be convinced of that. People have incredibly astute senses of fairness. If you have to convince or educate someone on how wrong something was that happened to them, then you are simply proselytizing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/21 11:59 PM
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I think seeing how Reddit user ship skews male, the fact that it is so gynocentric, and misogyny is so rare on here kind of proves that the net attitudes of men towards women are not women’s problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 11:26 PM
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“it is easier to be an ugly man than an ugly woman in the dating world“ That really depends on what you are after. I know a woman who is morbidly obese, chain smoker, very smelly, has black teeth, stringy hair, a deep voice, etc. her big problem in life is that she can’t stop her casual sex “addiction”. She is finding several mew partners a month. She was seeing a guy with a cuckhold fetish. To find someone for that, all she had to do was make one trip to the beach and on that same trip she came…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/21 11:21 AM
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I don’t think so. I have lived in 5 countries on 4 continents, and visited about 70 countries. I was very refreshed to move to the US. People were helpful and selfless in ways that shocked me so much I was weirded out by it. I got used to it soon though. I was used to things like trying to get a taxi for someone having a heart attack, and a driver saying “no, that isn’t my problem, I have a shift change, your friend will have to wait”. I can chat with a stranger for a few mins and get invited to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:39 AM
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All or some, depending on who you ask. Either way it’s bunk. But yes it’s funny how they will contort themselves to frame anything negative as masculine, even when it’s a woman who is doing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/21 12:38 PM
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Toxic masculinity is an odd framing of a real problem. The concept is created by bending reality on two ends. First, it frames some toxic things that aren’t necessarily traditionally masculine, as masculine. Trump is their poster boy for this, whose entire personality seems to be made of failings of traditional masculinity. Failure to assume responsibility for things. Lack of respect for women. Failure to work on physical fitness. Failure to not care what people think of him. Failure to not comp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/21 11:53 AM
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This is the reason: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/ Men don’t have as much in-group bias as women.
/r/MensRights21/06/21 11:51 AM
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That’s true. Whenever someone points out the earnings gap as evidence of women’s oppression, I always ask them: what do you think is the appropriate earnings premium for jobs that are on average 12 times more dangerous than women’s jobs? And that is before we talk occupational hardship conditions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 05:38 PM
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There is never only one reason for something happening for sure. Encouraging more women to do it than those who were becoming poor enough to be forced to would still serve the interests of the elites, be it national GDP growth in state run socialist economies, or private profits in capitalist economies. But I agree with you. I am happy they are sharing their fair share of the load finally, because it sucks. But since the 70s, women’s happiness has been on the decline faster than men’s. I can’t b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 05:18 PM
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An effect of or a cause? Or both?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 05:04 PM
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You have obviously not had to stress about getting someone pregnant, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:59 PM
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“In order to build a great socialist society, it is of the utmost importance to arouse the broad masses of women to join in productive activity“ I have always felt that feminism served the interests of the elites as a way to convince them that the status quo harmed them, and that they would be better off if they joined their labor pool, this keeping wages low for them, and allowing the balance of power to shift further from workers and closer to the elites controlling production, be they capital…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 04:57 PM
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See I saw the post and I didn’t even pick up on it that that whole post was exactly what they frame as Toxic Masculinity, that they claim is the cause of men not speaking out. I hate the word because it makes it sound like it’s men’s fault when we can clearly see here that it is feminists who are doing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/21 12:24 AM
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Talk is cheap. If this is what you believe, act like it, and we will be convinced. Also, this is loaded phrasing. The bottom left slide assumes that the only reason to disagree with feminism is a lack of intelligence. This is just unsophisticated belittling of the arguments against it. A common way of dealing with criticism without having to actually engage with it. It also does that thing where it claims that it is for equality, when it is not. It is about stuff like this: https://19thnews.org/…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/21 07:04 PM
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The problem with equality of outcome is this: The more specific you get, the easier it is to find examples of where women have it worse than men. You don’t even have to get as specific as you do with homelessness, addiction, incarceration rates, etc. those are just small factors that contribute to the higher level outcomes. Getting specific weakens your argument. In the highest level life outcomes, the things that are the culmination of every other more specific factor in your life, men have wor…
/r/MensRights18/06/21 11:56 AM
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Thank god for specific situations. If it weren’t for specific situations, women wouldn’t have any oppression at all to demonstrate. Because of you look at the overall life outcomes, health, wealth, life expectancy, safety, and happiness, you would find that it’s men who do worse on all of them except for wealth, where there is a small gap in men’s favor at the expense of a larger gap in women’s favor in all the others. Better get more specific so we can make it look like we are more oppressed so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/21 12:34 PM
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Everybody is a feminist until the boat sinks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/21 12:30 PM
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“volume of emotional labor myself and other women have done standing up for men who are suffering because of other men’s toxic masculinity! The reason men’s suicide rates are so high is because of toxic masculinity. Men don’t want to talk about it. It’s their fault. -feminists Stop talking about your problems! They are men’s fault anyways. Expecting me to hear about it is emotional labor, which is part of my oppression! -also feminists
/r/MensRights11/06/21 01:52 PM
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Because it attacks the very foundations of feminism. Culpability must be shared by the group. That is the problems of grouping people together based on identity rather than attacking the behavior itself.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 01:16 PM
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Reminds me of the test they used to use to figure out if someone was a witch. If they floated in water, they were a witch, if they sunk and drowned, they were not a witch. This is also what happens when you pound the data to fit your conclusions.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 12:38 PM
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If you were in the market for a house, would you want it to be both nice, and cheap as well? Of course you would. If you didn’t I would ask if you were ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:05 PM
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…Or the prostitute is my point.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 12:54 PM
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My views on prostitution were quite stretched when I moved to Asia. There, it is widely accepted and openly talked about without stigma. There is a sliding scale of prostitution there from a situation where women simply don’t date broke men, to something just short of a sex vending machine, and absolutely any gradation between the two you can imagine. Sometimes the men themselves aren’t even aware of it, it can be so subtle. The studies people make of prostitution are only able to see the most o…
/r/MensRights07/06/21 11:41 AM
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Not so. Newtonian physics is false, but it’s useful so we still use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 10:33 AM
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Hard to say. Better than building your plan based on a reality that is the opposite of what’s true, which is what most men try.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:54 AM
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Where did you learn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:52 AM
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That’s right. That’s all you need to an effective strategy. You don’t need to be right all the time, but it helps to be right most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:50 AM
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Is the empathizing style more accurate than the systematizing style of theory of mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:06 AM
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People are complex and predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:48 PM
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“Talk about your feelings.“ Talks about feelings “Listening to you whine is emotional labor, and part of my oppression”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/21 03:57 PM
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The feminist concept of toxic masculinity is created by labeling toxic traits as masculine, and by labeling masculine traits as toxic. It’s just a framing thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/21 06:30 PM
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We need to ditch concepts of toxic masculinity. It simply created out of the cognitive distortion of gamma bias. https://thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-33/april-2020/gamma-bias-new-theory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/21 08:26 PM
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I always ask this question: if the prosecution rate for false rape accusations is how you prove how rare they are, does the same logic hold for how common rape is? Obviously it doesn’t.
/r/MensRights20/05/21 09:40 PM
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I just don’t relate with the whole thing about if I don’t gush my feels, I will be lying on my death bed regretting it. I am perfectly capable of processing my emotions, and appreciating their richness without doing that. I make use of CBT, and all of those things like avoiding all or nothing thinking, avoiding kind reading, letting emotions flow through you detached from you, etc. to me, this is fully integrated with stoic toughness, not apart from it. It’s how I process my emotions without let…
/r/MensRights19/05/21 10:34 AM
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Nah I don’t see it that way at all. And it isn’t congruent with my lived experience as a man, in many overwhelmingly disproportionately male pursuits. It may be valuable stuff to you but other people have different values.
/r/MensRights19/05/21 02:02 AM
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I think stoicism is “taught” because the situations of extreme hardship that used to be overwhelmingly borne by men that would cause stoicism to naturally develop are slowly becoming occupations of the past. Now it is like a vestige of masculinity of the past. Some men think they are supposed to have it, but not sure how to develop it, so they fake it. And any time you fake a trait, you express that faked trait in inappropriate contexts, and it comes off wrong. Other men think it is toxic, and t…
/r/MensRights19/05/21 12:55 AM
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Part of the problem is framing things like stoicism as toxic to begin with. Any trait at all can be toxic if it is expressed too much or at inappropriate times. Having a great sense of humor is not toxic. But it won’t do you any good in a court of law. Stoicism is absolutely necessary to cope with extreme hardship. Conversely, stoicism is the product of extreme hardship. It isn’t toxic, and it isn’t masculine, although more men have historically had that trait than women due to being expected to…
/r/MensRights18/05/21 11:45 AM
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It is also scientifically not true. Those behaviors are correlated with NOT having many bonds with other men. Turns out it isn’t men that is the problem, but the lack of relationship with men. Hmm. But that doesn’t inspire hatred of masculinity and men so let’s go with this guy’s explanation. https://www.livescience.com/toxic-masculinity-mystery.html Which is why the term “toxic masculinity” is really a thinly veiled way to subtly frame problems that actually have to do with a lack of masculinit…
/r/FeminismStopsWhen12/05/21 10:00 AM
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“Educate your son” as if all sons are potential murderers. We have all been taught murdering is bad. That isn’t the issue. And they know it, but scapegoating an entire gender feels better. There are two types of people. Murderers, and non-murderers. Most men are, like most women, are more likely to be murdered than murder. Also “when will women be safe” umm, last time I checked, it is men who are more likely to be murdered.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 12:13 AM
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It is almost always relevant to bring up men’s issues when discussing anything related to feminism because they base their whole justification for more gender-based discrimination on the unfounded assertion that women are more oppressed on the basis of their gender than men are. If they didn’t make these claims, whataboutism would not be needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/21 05:42 PM
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Whataboutism is shorthand for “you exposed my double standard and bigotry and I would rather not discuss that. Being intellectually inconsistent makes it a lot easier to reach the conclusions I have reached” Another point is that I really doubt whataboutism would be nearly as bid of a thing if they weren’t using the unfounded assumption that women are more oppressed on the basis of their gender than men are to justify even more gender-based discrimination against men. That sort of aim demands wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/21 05:39 PM
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Oh yes, she is for sure trolling. But what was interesting was that the left wing media didn’t have the guts to call her on it. Their coverage was sympathetic of her. I think they weren’t sure if she was trolling and didn’t want to oppose it in the off chance it was serious and it caught on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 11:43 AM
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I don’t see why “man” is the relevant category here. Maybe they should put a curfew on all police officers, since it was a police officer who did it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/21 11:41 AM
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This is a trick they use. Downplay and minimize the struggles men have, but up-play minor everyday annoyances like “man spreading” to major gender issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 10:41 PM
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I think there is a bit of a clever trick going on that crates a nebulous concept of “toxic masculinity” that is pretty clever. They classify toxic things as masculine, even when they aren’t. And they classify masculine things as toxic, even when they aren’t. Boom, there you have it. Toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/21 02:18 AM
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Most things that feminists complain about women being treated differently are also nothing anybody is entitled to either. For instance, they complain that female comics aren’t as successful as male comics. Nobody is entitled to other people finding their jokes funny or to be absurdly rich either. Case in point: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H0crd8y2-uE (This joke was made just months after Ryan Dunn died) And yet, feminists widely supported Amy Shumer in her gender bias complaint.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/21 01:14 PM
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This only serves to point out that just because the majority of people in power are men, doesn’t mean that men benefit from that. Because men are also biased against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/21 11:40 PM
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This article is about not wearing a mask, the OP posted is about wearing a mask that doesn’t fit very well and slips below the nose when talking. That is what is supposed to be the “new manspreading” although in my personal experience I don’t notice it more with any particular gender. It came from watching the inauguration where Bill Clinton and Obama were really struggling with ill-fitting masks (and I might add, as is apparent to anyone who watched it, were doing their damndest to keep them fr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 07:36 PM
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I think the NYT has a merger with The Onion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 12:56 PM
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If you are going to make a prejudiced statement about a demographic group, you better have some hard facts to back it up at the very least. And at the most, we know that it still isn’t acceptable to do even if you do have those facts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 12:56 PM
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I believe the origin of stoicism as a male trait has to do with the more extreme living and working conditions men have disproportionately endured over the years. The difference was more stark in former generations, but I believe that stoicism wasn’t a toxic trait. At least not in the situations that men had to face. Being a combat veteran myself. I know that your emotional set point is fairly arbitrary and quite adaptable. My every day life was one of such intense misery, hardship, and danger, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 12:36 PM
3

Just proves how inept men are /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 12:22 PM
20

To the victim of a crime, the gender of the offender isn’t really relevant. It points out the absurdity of gender as a category of analysis for a lot of things. Instead, victim and offender need to be the categories that we think in terms of. Just because most violent offenders are men doesn’t mean that most men are violent offenders. It isn’t right to judge a whole group of people based on a minority of that group’s most extreme offenders. It is like judging all Muslims based on a jihadist terr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/21 12:12 PM
1

That’s mostly on them. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2jQ4CR9Gvbk Everything doesn’t need to be the man’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 06:41 PM
8

The thing is, so many of the things that fall inter their definition of “toxic masculinity” are not even what I have traditionally been told was masculine. Case in point I saw an article about Trump saying know he is an example of toxic masculinity or something. But basically everything toxic about him is due to his failure to be masculine. I was taught that it was masculine to take responsibility. He will never take responsibility unless it is going to reflect good on him. He never takes respon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/21 01:04 PM
1

Guess it depends on what method you use. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/oct/19/gay-men-promiscuous-myth Social studies are so bunk. There is always a way to spin stats to tell the story you want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:32 PM
-1

You have sources for that? I have seen other sources that say they are not more promiscuous. Maybe they seems that way because it isn’t seen as shameful and hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 10:37 PM
4

This is a good point. My ex girlfriend punched me in the face and then stalked me for a year after I broke up with her, threatening me with suicide. It can happen for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:11 PM
7

I like how the list itself violates point number 9
/r/MensRights04/01/21 03:00 PM
3

This guy is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:19 PM
5

I am saying that it takes more than attractiveness. It takes her being GGG as well. Both women and men have desensitized their sexualities. Women tend to do it more mechanically with vibrators, men tend to do it more with porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:02 PM
10

The fact that there are male boner pills isn’t because of the reason you think. It is because we have a tendency to frame problems as male. If a woman can’t get wet, it’s the man’s problem. He isn’t skilled enough, is too lazy to “get her” turned on, or isn’t sexy enough, let himself go or something. But on the other hand if a man can’t get a boner, nobody is asking what she is doing wrong. I don’t even think that the men themselves know to ask themselves this question. The amount of men on sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 01:06 PM
3

There is a tendency to assign negative traits with the label “masculine” and a tendency to frame masculine traits as negative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/20 08:35 PM
32

r/womenwritingmen
/r/FeminismStopsWhen16/12/20 06:43 PM
7

I always notice this as well. I saw one article blaming Trump as having toxic masculinity. What I see his problem is he lacks the qualities of traditional masculinity. He always complains, always explains, always blames others and never assumes responsibility, he has a fragile ego, is vain... all of this is the complete opposite of masculine traits. Who in their right mind would blame the negative traits of Trump on masculinity. The one masculine trait he does have is assertiveness, but that is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/20 02:40 PM
21

This study is cooked. The types of chores they included in the survey are traditional female chores. Those are the only ones covered in the survey’s de-facto definition of unpaid domestic labor. They could have stopped by just defining domestic labor as “chores typically done by women” and totally skipped the research. Not only that, but despite them saying this is a “global” study, the countries surveyed are countries like Libya, Afghanistan, Kenya, Yemen, Iraq, and exclude western countries li…
/r/MensRights27/11/20 08:36 PM
1

Where did you see that they left commute times for unpaid labor in?
/r/MensRights27/11/20 05:19 PM
1

Just noticed something else as well. Look at the sample of countries they selected. Yemen, Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, etc. lots of those types of countries. How about including countries like Canada, USA, UK, Sweden, etc. Then there is the commute time exception. And even after all that data cooking they STILL have only a single digit percentage point of difference.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 01:03 PM
1

Tends to be vehicle repair, maintenance, anything involving a tool, finance, legal, anything heavy and physical, anything dangerous, anything involving a machine, most outdoor tasks. It tends to vary a lot which is why it is harder to think of them but even though most of the things on my list need done occasionally, there are so many of them that I always have something to do. In my house it is split up fairly traditionally. For me, what I do varies a lot. For her it is more the same every week…
/r/MensRights27/11/20 12:06 PM
3

Yes, self-reporting always has self-serving bias.
/r/MensRights26/11/20 09:27 PM
3

I certainly consider shopping labor.
/r/MensRights26/11/20 05:11 PM
7

Oh that is a privilege because of the money he earns for it. Yet more evidence of the Patriarchy. And the shorter lifespan men have likely because of these living conditions? Poor life choices and genetics. Checkmate men!
/r/MensRights26/11/20 04:10 PM
12

If we define “unpaid domestic labor” as “things women traditionally do” we can prove that woman do more of that. Why even do the research? They could have stopped at making the definition! Checkmate men!
/r/MensRights26/11/20 03:49 PM
7

I also think men are worse off than women. Here’s why: Every detail we study about gender disparities is kind of a waste of time if you want to demonstrate which gender has it worse off. The ultimate study of human well-being is happiness. Then health/lifespan, then wealth. The last two are less important because they are a means to the end of happiness. Women are happier than men on average. Women’s happiness levels also correlate to the levels of rights they have in different cultures, and the…
/r/MensRights26/11/20 12:05 PM
2

This “power” that feminists focus on has a flip side: responsibility. Where men do have more power, and there are plenty of arenas in life where men certainly don’t have more power, it tends to be the kind of power that is gotten by assuming responsibilities. Being the type that assumes responsibilities is an extremely positive trait. Responsibility-takers are keystones in healthy societies.
/r/MensRights26/11/20 11:58 AM
9

If a war is worth fighting, you don’t need a draft. If you need a draft, it ain’t worth fighting.
/r/MensRights25/11/20 10:38 PM
3

Watch the Free State of Jones. Fucking awesome movie. Makes the same point.
/r/MensRights25/11/20 10:35 PM
1

Yes. Whenever she complains about me not cooking, I offer to switch one of my chores for the cooking. I genuinely don’t mind the cooking, it is just that normally when she is cooking, I am doing something else that she would not rather be doing. She never has taken me up on the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 01:25 PM
1

It is true. Women complain about how harsh beauty standards are for them, but at least most of their beauty standards are at least somewhat under their control. For men, almost none of the attractiveness standards are under their control. Height, dick size, hair or lack thereof... And the things that a man can do, like getting hair plugs, putting lifts in shoes, etc, are judged more harshly by society as vain and insecure than the things a woman can do. I have even been criticized by women for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:10 PM
1

The wage gap is real, but the reasons for it aren’t what feminists say the reasons are, and it doesn’t mean what they think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 08:52 PM
1

Go over to Deadbedroooms. There are no shortage of women complaining about lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 12:19 PM
1

No. Anger and hatred is you getting influenced by somebody else’s frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 11:33 AM
5

I’m not into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:39 PM
7

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 09:54 PM
22

Hatred is alpha. Letting your mood be controlled by behavior of other people is so alpha. Right bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 09:23 PM
3

It causes you to get hair on your palms as well. Beware of satan’s pastime
/r/MensRights03/11/20 02:16 AM
3

You see, different people have different opinions of what the role of the opposite sex should be. Those different people have different opinions. I doubt it is the same guy with all of these different opinions. You could say the same thing about men. Some women want men to be macho, some find macho behavior problematic. We can’t lump those different women’s opposite opinions together because those women are different people. This is the problem with identity politics, including RP and Feminism. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 12:04 PM
1

Trust me. I won’t. Certainly don’t need to.
/r/MensRights27/08/20 12:26 AM
1

Ahh, yess. Professional. What is that again? I think it is humanity minus anything fun, interesting, and individual right? Ya no thanks. Not into selling my entire soul for a paycheck.
/r/MensRights26/08/20 10:07 AM
0

Certainly the last place you want to be having fun, considering the amount of time you spend there.
/r/MensRights26/08/20 10:04 AM
1

Put one up when you are in there privately. Nobody has to know who put it there. See if anything happens.
/r/MensRights25/08/20 10:26 PM
0

Exactly. To the detriment of both sexes.
/r/MensRights25/08/20 09:17 PM
-2

This is why very few people are feminists or MRA’s. No fun.
/r/MensRights25/08/20 08:41 PM
-1

So you are against having photos of sexy people up? That is what makes you a human being?
/r/MensRights25/08/20 08:34 PM
-4

Ahh that must be where you learned to act like a feminist. Gotcha. It all makes sense now.
/r/MensRights25/08/20 08:25 PM
-1

I have never worked in a place like that. Worst I can say is that one guy destroyed the porn stash in the bathroom because he was religious. What industry are you in?
/r/MensRights25/08/20 07:56 PM
0

You know you can do that right?
/r/MensRights25/08/20 07:35 PM
1

The funny thing is that it is so hard to tell. Reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/kVk9a5Jcd1k
/r/MensRights02/08/20 08:10 PM
1

How are you not picking up on the sarcasm? This prove just how ridiculous things have gotten that we can’t even tell anymore
/r/MensRights02/08/20 07:05 PM
1

This is satire. Chill
/r/MensRights02/08/20 07:03 PM
1

This is satire
/r/MensRights02/08/20 07:01 PM
2

Figured you guys would pick up on the sarcasm
/r/MensRights02/08/20 06:58 PM
-1

Google does it so much better than me.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 03:21 PM
5

The fact that this was taken seriously lets you know how ridiculous things have gotten. I was lampooning.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 02:56 PM
0

Haha this is a total lampoon. But I like how you can’t even tell the difference anymore
/r/MensRights02/08/20 02:55 PM
-64

I blame heteronormativity and patriarchy though. Yes it is women doing it, but that’s just performative toxic masculinity. Add this to the proof that the patriarchy is totally real, and not made-up.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 12:21 PM
1

I am willing to finish her off after I orgasm, but she doesn’t because she can sense that my arousal level is lower and the whole thing loses appeal for her.
/r/MensRights02/06/20 04:06 PM
1

It can be done technically, but once I cum, I lose that intense pleasure associated with sex immediately, and my wife picks up on that vibe, and will stop enjoying whatever I am doing. A big part of what gets her off is her getting me off. Same with me, her being really turned on by me really turns me on. Once the man orgasms it throws a wrench into that dynamic and it can’t be faked convincingly.
/r/MensRights02/06/20 10:58 AM
2

The orgasm gap is about 35 percent according to this source. https://www.nbcnews.com/better/lifestyle/orgasm-gap-why-it-exists-what-women-can-do-about-ncna983311 Premature ejaculation affects 20-30 percent of men, against their will, not a problem that women typically have. That is really all you need to know about the orgasm gap. Forget all the narratives about men being shitty lovers or selfish. We are just built differently. https://www.medscape.com/answers/435884-30689/what-is-the-global-pre…
/r/MensRights01/06/20 09:54 PM
3

We are taught that to be masculine is to not complain publicly. Don’t blame others for your problems. even admit to having any problems, as that is admitting defeat. Victimhood does not flatter men. Realizing the plight of men is more likely to induce men to quietly get to work improving themselves to find a workaround, ways not to get burned by it, or make the system work for them as it is. You do get some losers who are defeatist about it, and have started fringe groups like incels as a reacti…
/r/MensRights01/06/20 12:23 PM
2

Wo now, you are off topic of blaming men. Everyone knows that if a group does more of a negative thing than another, you blame society. UNLESS THAT GROUP IS MEN. Then you blame men.
/r/MensRights30/05/20 10:54 PM
2

Interactions maybe, not shooting though. If they have a disproportionate amount of interactions compared to their actual violent crime rate, and they still get shot by police at the same proportions as they get shot, it actually suggests that per interaction, a white person is actually more likely to get shot than a black person
/r/MensRights29/05/20 09:39 PM
6

White people are arrested and charged with a violent crime roughly twice as often as blacks. (Not per capita, but overall) https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43 And also, police tend to shoot twice as many white people as black people each year. https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ So it seems like your odds of getting shot by the police are almost perfectly correlated with your odds of being arrested for…
/r/MensRights29/05/20 07:41 PM
2

https://youtu.be/LN6vLAZKuEI There is lots of violence right now in one place.
/r/MensRights29/05/20 03:22 PM
13

Maybe rape conviction is skewed towards men. But they aren’t nearly as likely to report it, and even less likely to be taken seriously if they do than a woman would be.
/r/MensRights29/05/20 03:20 PM
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Notice that most of the things on her “to do” list are thinks women enjoy as well.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 12:16 PM
1

When I was young I had women dump me for being too gentle and slow. I had just had it in my head that women were fragile, and I was raised that way. So in my mind if I cared for a woman, I couldn’t be rough with her. Never mind that I was raised roughhousing (of course not sexually) with guy friends I cared for a lot. But somehow I thought women were different. That they couldn’t take rough play. I learned the lesson again and again after I was dumped a few times for being too slow and gentle in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:04 PM
-2

Surprise! People would rather have a potentially creepy adult running the country than an admitted unapologetic creep who is royally fucking everything up right now. Shocking.
/r/MensRights24/04/20 07:33 PM
1

Assault is assault. Gender shouldn’t matter. This will get weird in the trans age.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 12:21 PM
1

Yes they passed laws against it in the north. But only after it was on its way out. No I didn’t go to school in the south. And I am not a conservative. And I don’t think slavery was right. All races should be treated equally. But we would be kidding ourselves to say that there aren’t worse things than slavery. Things could get even worse for black slaves, and they did. It was wrong the way they were treated after they were released. But it is also wrong to assume that the free market magically e…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 05:06 PM
1

Slavery was on its way out. It slowly faded away in the North on its own economic merits. They then abolished it after it had mostly gone away on its own, then used that as an excuse to get all righteously indignant about the south. The real reason for the war was to keep the union together. When slavery made a lot of sense, Lincoln stated in public speeches that he had no inclination nor intent to end slavery in the south. But when it became clear that free blacks were cheaper than slave blacks…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 02:32 PM
1

The war wasn’t really about that.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 02:08 PM
1

the moral outrage theory ending slavery is a good story, but the fact of the matter is it ended because it was more profitable not to have slavery. If you wanna have a war though, it helps to give your soldiers some Moral indignation to keep them motivated and willing to sacrifice their lives. If you tell them that it is all about money, which almost all wars are, you don’t get very motivated soldiers.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:42 AM
3

New Zealand also has the same amount of deaths per capita as Australia. They are now saying that they think warm weather helps a lot because people spend more time outside, and humidity slows transmission.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 06:58 PM
3

Forbes stole this meme and made an article out of it. But not before cherry picking two leaders out of the meme. Belgium because it went poorly, and Singapore because it is a right wing dystopia. I don’t think any SJWs who actually knew how the Singapore government was run would be giving them any praise. Widespread open slavery, totally different rights for immigrants than citizens, censored internet, no free press, tax haven, death penalty for non violent crimes, privatized health care, and le…
/r/MensRights15/04/20 06:57 PM
2

Checkmate! My name could be Mrs. Featherbottom.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 06:35 PM
1

I see what you are saying-sort of. It was economics that led to the end of slavery in America, not social conscience. But only in that they found out that they could exploit them even more in a free market because they wouldn’t have to take care of them. That would be their problem. And maybe they would be a bit more productive if you could threaten them with firing them. But the free market didn’t make anyone any less illogically racist. Tribal biases are still baked into our illogical brains.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 03:53 PM
2

I wonder how women’s shelters get around this law?
/r/MensRights15/04/20 02:01 PM
1

The whole “jerks who live like animals and destroy property” is exactly the stereotype that causes this discrimination. I have seen some disgusting pig sties inhabited by women when I was in college. My neighbor right now is a woman, and a hoarder. I rented a place of my own out to a woman who turned out to be a junkie and trashed the place and left literal truckloads of garbage behind and thousands of dollars worth of damage. I am not sure gender discrimination is a very efficient way to protec…
/r/MensRights15/04/20 02:01 PM
1

For sure, extreme levels of segregation like ZA aren’t sustainable, but I had a full year course on ZA history and spend a good deal of time traveling there as a backpacker, and it was even more extreme than I expected given the reputation and all I had studied. Even in the modern rainbow nation, we are talking more than a few percentage points still. The problem is, markets aren’t machines. It runs through a really illogical intermediary: humans, who have a large amount of their behavior, inclu…
/r/MensRights15/04/20 01:56 PM
1

Yes it was in Europe where I had to go to an agency. They don’t discriminate but their rates were predatory compared to what I could have gotten if I was a woman.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 01:38 PM
3

Quote from that article: But the appeals court found it unlikely that Congress, when it passed the law in the 1960s, intended women to have to accept men as roommates. I wonder why it is worded that way and not the other way around or in a gender-neutral way. Sounds a bit discriminatory.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 01:37 PM
3

Specifically: https://www.lawfirms.com/resources/landlord-and-tenant/tenant-discrimination/tenant-discrimination-laws.htm I wonder how women’s shelters evade these laws?
/r/MensRights15/04/20 01:33 PM
23

It has been all different countries including USA
/r/MensRights14/04/20 10:48 PM
1

I think what you are doing by splitting it into four cases, is trying to distinguish why he doesn’t consent to rough sex and split one reason for saying no as invalid and another as valid. But a no is a no. There are only two cases: consent, or non consent. Non consent is always valid. Some no’s aren’t more valid than others. The problem is, you try to nuance his non-consent to try to invalidate it if you can, but you treat hers as un-nuanced and the end of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 10:31 AM
1

Religion has nothing to do with men’s rights.
/r/MensRights11/04/20 10:49 PM
-1

I duno about you but I have just never been able to get into obese women. I have been with some really nice women who I was romantically attracted to, and tried to make the sexual attraction work but in the end I just couldn’t get into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:17 AM
4

That isn’t the point of the talk but ok.
/r/MensRights25/03/20 11:26 PM
1

You mention military service changes a person even during peace time. Spot on. There is a book called “on killing” that shows you how the military has psychologically tweaked its training over the years after learning how hard it was to train people to actually perform and do killing. They have succeeded. Until then it was actually pretty difficult to get men to kill in combat. People would pretend to shoot, deliberately miss, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:23 AM
1

I dunno. Female doms seem more in demand. They are so had to find that women can charge money for it. I don’t think that good male dons are so rare and so in demand that women generally are willing to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:18 AM
1

Yes a comparatively very small amount of women did combat aviation. But yes back to the main point, I hear men complaining in the kink community how hard things are for sub men to find dom partners, compared to dom men finding female subs. It is for sure a factor. But is it a cause or effect? No way to know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 06:17 PM
1

Nope I agree. The problem is ours to deal with and it doesn’t make it right. But the problem is we have two ways of looking at social issues: one way for white men, and another way for everybody else. That’s insanity. White men are people just like everyone else. I don’t think that slavery excuses a black man today from killing someone. But society recognizes that the problem isn’t just as simple as that own person’s actions. Men need the same treatment but we won’t be able to do that if we rema…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 05:32 PM
1

For sure I am not saying that there were no women working in the military. But they don’t do the combat arms, and they tend to be a minority. I also wouldn’t claim that women are violence free either. Or that all violence is caused by cultural effects of war. But you just gotta admit it is pretty hard to ignore the cultural effects of having the vast majority of exposure to violence in our world being experienced by one gender, and a lot of them were trained to be aggressive and violent as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 04:18 PM
1

I am a combat veteran myself. There are still over 17 million of us alive in the US. 17 million when the majority are men, and even more of us were raised by men who fought and even more still were raised by men who were raised by men who were combat veterans. The effect is real. And you don’t have to experience it directly to have the memes effect your culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:56 PM
1

There are still 17,964,242 veterans alive today by the way. Not insignificant culturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:50 PM
1

Well I don’t know about justification, but we still use slavery as an explanation for the high levels of violence in African American communities. 75 years isn’t that long culturally. It is our grandparents who experienced it first hand. And they raised our parents, who raised us. Every generation is less violent than the one before it, but this takes time to iron out. And men are still doing the majority of fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc. this has sustaining ripple effects across o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 03:34 PM
1

Most men are not soldiers or policemen now, but just a generation ago, a huge percentage of men served in WWII. We know from the African American situation in USA that past experiences affect culture in the future. The name for this is path dependence. You must understand how exposure to these levels of violence enters male culture and gets passed on through memes. Not internet memes, but cultural memes. You don’t need direct exposure to the violence to be affected by the changes it makes to mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:29 PM
1

Indeed. That is much more relevant than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:22 PM
1

I think there is a lot to it. Yes we talk about women’s violence less, but we also brush it off. Woman slaps man’s face, we say she is an assertive woman and he probably deserved it. He learns his lesson a bit embarrassed, and moves on with life. Man slaps woman’s face, and he is an abuser and if you say she deserved it, you are victim blaming. But also, men have done most of the violence in the world often at the behest and to the benefit of women by social pressuring. During the world wars, su…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 12:50 PM
1

For sure if they just said “let me tell you a story about what it is like to be a wealthy guy and what it is like to be trans” I would listen and say “that seems valid! Why would I not believe them? They were both a wealthy man and trans” But they claim to be able to know what life is like for “men” not just wealthy men. And claims to have some insight into what it is like to be a woman. There is no way she knows what it is like to be a cis woman. And furthermore, to prescribe actions to the res…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 11:18 AM
1

Well to be fair, men probably learn how to have sex from women who let’s be honest, are worse than men for not asking for affirmative consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 11:13 AM
1

More victim blaming. For sure men smoke more, drink more, and so drugs. You know who what other communities have problems with alcohol, drugs, and smoking? The poor, the ethnic minorities, colonized countries, you know... the oppressed. You know who else doesn’t see the doctor as much? Oppressed people. Kind of hard to make time for the doctor when most primary household breadwinners are men, and you are under a lot of pressure to provide, and there is a good chance you don’t even have paid leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 10:33 AM
3

The suicide rate is actually I would argue THE single best indicator of social privilege or lack thereof. Nobody talks about this . All they do is victim blame: “well they smoke and don’t go to the doctor” no shit. You know who else does that? The poor, the black... you know... the oppressed! Not gonna go to the doctor when you are the breadwinner and so many people don’t have paid sick leave!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:23 AM
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There are a lot of unfair things about divorce laws. Child support, as a whole isn’t one of them. Deaths are a good indicator of social issues for sure. You are right that bodies don’t lie. And I am not saying that as many men are victims of spousal murder as women. It doesn’t make sense to slaughter a cow when you can abuse it and milk it for years instead. And I am not even claiming that men suffer from DV at the same rate as women. What I am saying, is that we have been misled about how even …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:22 AM
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Look as soon as more women are willing to step up and financially support men, we will see more of this. We can’t do this if our primary value to women is as breadwinners. You are totally right. The male pill wasn’t passed because it had side effects that was about on par with the female birth control pill. However, remember that it was feminists who demanded that it be marketed anyways as a liberation tool. And not only that, but it doesn’t have anything to do with us being more ok with female …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 11:12 PM
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What if more women choose to be primary caretakers instead of working because it is more rewarding than making money and they have someone willing to support them when they do it. Women who willing to support men financially while they pursue more meaningful lives are far and few between. How about male domestic violence victims with nowhere to turn because if they call the police, THEY will be the ones to leave in handcuffs. And where would they turn anyways? Most shelters will turn them away b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:55 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:46 PM
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Interestingly enough, labiaplasy can be credited to anti-porn censors who considered labias too “explicit”, forcing pornographers to either find models without external labia or photoshop them out. Look that up. It was a thing. I don’t understand your unattainable body goals point through. It is a big, accessible internet, and we don’t all have to have our porn go through once source anymore. The majority of it is being made at the grassroots level in normal couple’s bedrooms on their own initia…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:45 PM
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You are saying that women most women into this type of thing are switches?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:26 PM
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True. I have had women say this explicitly to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:14 PM
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Indeed. This is true. Nobody does that. I don’t think a woman has ever asked for consent to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:13 PM
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Consent isn’t in question here. It is about women complaining that men prefer this kind of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:12 PM
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I don’t think that is in question here. My question was more about women who blame porn for giving men these sexual tastes at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 08:06 PM
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Good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 07:36 PM
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If the point of enjoying boxing was only to show skill, I am sure there would be any range of other sports they could have picked out to show skill, like pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:32 PM
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Hmm I dunno about that. What about the people who are into obese porn? Do they start by watching porn with “normal” people in it, then seek out more and more extreme porn until they are watching obese people have sex? Or do you think that men who already like obese women are more likely to watch porn of obese women? I know that there is porn out there of bimbofied women ( that is the term for these women surgically altered to have bigger boobs and lips, maybe a spray tan, and some hair and lash …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 06:12 PM
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I know what you mean when you say “that is for other people, but I get off on it” My personal story is that I have a lot of (safe and consensual) fantasies that I got off to for years, but didn’t want to do for various reasons. One was similar to the woman in the article’s boyfriend’s reasons. I didn’t want to subject my partner to something so “unusual”. Another is that I felt vulnerable opening up these desires to someone else. Other parts were insecurity about if I would be good at it, if she…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 11:50 AM
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Are you sick if you enjoy boxing too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:59 AM
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The think about porn is that there is porn of absolutely anything. Little people porn, obese porn, elderly porn, small boob porn, big boob porn, black porn, Asian porn, Latina porn... when you catch your partner watching porn, he is choosing to watch the type of porn with the woman in it he is attracted to. Because all of it exists. It isn’t porn that it is the problem, it is your boyfriend’s preferences that manifests in the type of porn he chooses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:58 AM
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Lol the term “unlrealistic” love that! I always like to think: are attractive women not real? Is might be possible for you in particular to look like this, but I assure you that non-obese attractive women are as real as obese unattractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 10:54 AM
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I dunno, why do we like to do anything that we know will cause us pain? Why do we play football? Why do we climb mountains? Why do we do HIIT? Why do we participate in boxing matches? Why do we do things like jump out of a sauna into the snow? Why do we watch horror movies? Why do we watch cringey videos? We do all kinds of painful things for all kinds of purposes in real life. Why would sex be any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 11:55 PM
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So it is unacceptable slut shaming if he doesn’t want to have rough sex and and she does, and it is dehumanizing if she doesn’t want to have rough sex and he does?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:33 PM
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I think we already covered this. Healthy couples do all kinds of things they don’t like for each other outside sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 08:17 PM
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I don’t know why you wouldn’t? I agree to lots of things that hurt me on a daily basis. Sparring matches, football, really intense massages, plunge pools, HIIT, long hikes I know will give me blisters.... the list goes on. Many things are worth the pain. My partner’s pleasure is definitely on that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:16 PM
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Again, have a look at the list I sent. See how popular things like Facial Abuse and surprise anal actually are. Not saying people aren’t into those things, or that that type of porn doesn’t exist, but take a look and see how popular that stuff is really. I think what you have is a few vocal people who tend to be attracted to and/or attract that rare type of guy shouting that every guy is like this now because of porn. If you look at the list you will see that: Either people are watching porn the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 07:14 PM
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I have never seen any porn of a stabbing or bleeding. Must say. Where are you getting your porn? Have a look at this list of NSFW subs ranked by popularity. You will see how low on the list extreme BDSM falls. The most popular porn sub by a wide margin to the next most popular is simply people taking their clothes off willingly in their own bedrooms to be admired. I think what you think is mainstream porn is actually white niche. But the internet has a way of showing different people different t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:47 PM
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It is a big problem when people don’t ask partners what they want and when they don’t do the thinks their partner wants. I agree. The first women in my life who asked that question got an engagement ring very quickly. After kissing a great deal of frogs though. One problem I have with her though still is that she is a poor communicator when it comes to her needs. Almost all women I have been with have been like this. I ask what she wants, and it is always a shrug, or some non-answer like “I want…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:42 PM
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I find challenges pleasurable. Why wouldn’t they be? Just two different types of ppl in the world I guess. People who don’t like pain and people who will do anything to avoid experiencing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 05:32 PM
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She is into face slapping. Me not so much. But I let her do it. I would also do anal if she wanted me to. Of course it would kill the mood if it was a favor you are doing for him to get his needs met. The mood is for him, not you. Like I said. There are lots of non sexual things I do for her that don’t put me in a particularly good mood like visiting with my in-laws. Why would sex be any different? There are things you can do another time to make up for it. And as far as pain, what is everyone’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 01:41 PM
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Meh, I would be willing to do something painful for a partner. I have done quite a few painful and degrading things for work. And sports. For sure I would do things equally painful and degrading for my loved one’s pleasure. ESP if they were willing to do the same for my pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 12:02 PM
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Popular topic. I see lots of chatter about it from feminists these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 01:35 AM
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I can now respect my partner and degrade her. Now. But it took a bit of learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 01:12 AM
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I only asked for response from blue pilled women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 12:53 AM
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Are you a blue pilled woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 12:32 AM
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Nobody should feel forced to do something they don’t want to do. But if we are talking “shoulds” people “should” be willing to do things they don’t like sexually for their partner. A perfectly matched partner is like a unicorn. Maybe they exist, but I haven’t seen one. Nor has anyone I know. And if you only ever do things that you both agree on, it will be like lowest common denominator sex, and neither of you will get your full needs met. And say you do meet that unicorn, and you happen to be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 12:31 AM
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You think everyone who likes it rough has issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:46 PM
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The thing about porn, is if you can imagine a sex act, there is probably porn of it. Porn caters to every conceivable taste. Which porn are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 04:38 PM
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I learned a lot of harsh lessons in my youth where women asked me for this in bed, and I couldn’t bring myself to do it because I “respected women too much” or something, then got dumped. Looking back, that was very patriarchal of me. I assumed I knew what was good for her, and didn’t truely internalize that when a woman says that she wants this, she actually wants it, and it is ok. But yes more than half of my girlfriends have been into rough stuff. We aren’t pretending it is normal, it is comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:39 PM
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I don’t know where women get this idea that if someone wants to have sex with them, that person doesn’t appreciate anything else about them. Why are you so reductive about it? Couldn’t being interesting/funny/good make a man more sexually attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:32 PM
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This is a very interesting way of looking at it. I always said it wasn’t a double standard because both genders are expected to do the thing that comes harder to most people of that sex. If we both faced the same sexual environments then it would be a double standard. But since we face inverse sexual landscapes, the standards are also inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:25 PM
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Isn’t that an incredibly over-simplified way of seeing the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:38 AM
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Why would you say that there isn’t a such thing as female privilege? I don’t think even most feminists would say something so obviously false as that. What they want is for us to have the SAME privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 04:11 PM
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I love how close they have to zoom in to find their gender injustices. Forget about the lifespan gap, THIS is what we really care about.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/20 12:20 PM
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Well that’s an easy thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:11 PM
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It is absolutely impossible to know for sure which gender is the most “oppressed” to be quite honest. For sure there are double gender standards absolutely everywhere. I could go on at great length as well about the one men fall on the downside of. But it won’t ever convince you. It is like trying to understand a snowdrift by examining each individual snowflake. That conversation won’t go anywhere. There are double standards especially for sexuality because the sexual environments we navigate ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:23 AM
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I think the life expectancy gap is actually THE most significant gap. It is really the aggregate of the dangers, stressors faced, and care in one’s life. It is also a really reliable stat. Every death is recorded. There are no grey areas. One is either dead or not. Of course they still try to talk themselves out of it. They will suddenly be ok with victim-blaming and genetic explanations. The truth is, the lifespan gap is new within the last 100 years and it has been steadily growing. Doubt it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:42 PM
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You think maybe a lot of that has to do with nerves?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:07 AM
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I agree. No matter what else you are doing, PIV,PIA, etc, the clot is key. It isn’t everything, but it is key. For me it is the “necessary but not sufficient” key to getting my wife to cum. It always has to be in play.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:59 AM
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This could be a major explanation for the gap. How could men know how to give women orgasms if they aren’t being honest about what makes them cum? Instead of telling him what you do want, you pretend you want what you don’t want instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:28 AM
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I really wish I could be. I think life would be a lot easier that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:23 AM
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No I haven’t. The thought of it doesn’t excite me. The only part I find appealing is that it would be way easier and less bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:08 AM
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I agree. Girls are better. I also hate having sex with guys so don’t worry, I totally get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:05 AM
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Yes we are talking in generalities. It doesn’t need to be all. Don’t worry, I get that. Most is enough to have an effect on statistics like this. And I get it what you are saying. The orgasm gap is another one of those statistics that can mean a lot of things to different people as well. Some see it as proof of sexual suppression of women, some see it as evidence that male and female sexuality are probably massively different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 03:04 AM
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I am sorry to hear that. The good news is that as half of the people it takes to have sex, you have a huge amount of power to change that for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 02:56 AM
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Oh yes I am sorry I don’t have any knowledge of the culture in Russia, so I won’t be of much use for this conversation. You may absolutely be right about Russians.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 02:50 AM
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Wait. You think women are sexually repressed still? In what way? What part of what I said sounds dishonest? I do not believe that pleasure is a zero sum game no. But the whole point of pointing out an orgasm gap is because women think that men are getting more pleasure than they are. I don’t necessarily buy that. And if it is true, I don’t know how much of that is men’s fault. So that is why I discuss the relativity of men to women, because that is specifically what a gap is. But if you would ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 02:48 AM
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For She can’t cum from PIV, but she still needs it. She can cum from oral, but normally stops me before she does because she wants PIV. If she needs to cum she just puts her vibe on her cult while my P is in her V. My favorite is 69 with either oral on me or just stroking cock balls and ass. Interesting you say women only have sex for men. A woman on here was saying that that idea was just oppression of women’s sexuality. But you think it is actually true? I mean I don’t know if it is, but if it…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 02:42 AM
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Do they go away after they are done? Or can you ask for more?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 12:54 AM
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It is but it is more for her than it is for me. It for sure isn’t my favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 12:51 AM
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That is a hell of a lot more than straight women. And uh, gay men have almost every option straight people do except vaginal. 35 percent would probably be enough to make up the orgasm gap as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 12:04 AM
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I think your mistake was expecting him to give you the orgasm. Women don’t give us orgasms. We do. Women help by being naked and sexy, and willing, but if I want to orgasm, I am going to orgasm, regardless of whether or not she cares if I orgasm. I think that is the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:56 PM
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Nature doesn’t always have a purpose for things. We can read purposes after the fact. One reading is simply that male orgasm accompanies the release of sperm, needed for reproduction. You are going to need as much sperm as possible if you want to increase odds of reproducing, which is all genes care about really, replicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:39 PM
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https://www.thedailyvox.co.za/orgasm-gap-subtle-powerful-form-oppression-nikita-ramkissoon/ Was just reading this. And I saw a tedx talk and I don’t know if she used the word oppression, that was for sure the gist of it. It was said in the same breath as the wage gap. As in the patriarchy is to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:19 PM
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Anal 101 is if it hurts, you are doing something wrong. I am male and a fan of receptive anal. I never understood what the deal was with the prostate though. I don’t like anything that stimulates the prostate. To me it feels like stimulating my Adam’s apple. A bit uncomfortable. I try to avoid toys that are designed to stimulate the prostate. My favorite is the stretching feeling and the stimulation of the ring area outside the anus and around the second sphincter. I would agree that correlation…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:16 PM
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Well if most women out there are like you are doing this, for their casual encounters is it any wonder that by the time men settle down in LTRs, they don’t know what actually makes women cum?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:26 PM
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I don’t think the shame in asking for what you really want is a specifically female problem. It took me years of conscious practice to be able to do it myself. Even if I would think “why would I be self-conscious about that?” I am still to this day shy about liking thigh high stockings and I can’t for the life of me figure out what I should be embarrassed about. What I did to get over it was I started asking for totally rediculous things I knew she would say no to and that I didn’t really want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:34 PM
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True. I generally don’t get into that unless people bring up how sexually repressed women are. Maybe they were more so in the past but it definitely feels the other way around right now in spite of what might have been in the past. But yes, I don’t believe that alone should be a way of closing the orgasm gap, but it is really shocking how much of an effect it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:26 PM
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I can see your concern that if you told your partner to get off you because you weren’t into it that they would be upset. My wife would be too. Instead of doing something rude like that, or being dishonest about orgasming, here is what I do instead: I can’t cum with my wife riding cowgirl. She likes it though. Instead of faking an orgasm or telling her to get off me because I am not into it, I say something like “do you know what would be so hot right now? If you turned around and played with my…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:53 PM
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I know that is why women are afraid of. What I am saying is that fear isn’t based in reality. It is something we are told again and again that I am very skeptical of. Just a part of society’s overall disdain for male sexuality. On the contrary, I think men probably base too much of their self esteem on their ability to make women orgasm. But I think that framing is wrong. Nobody “makes” me cum. I make me cum. If I prematurely ejaculate, it is my fault, not hers. People on this thread have actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:41 PM
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Yes I am all in favor of that. The problem is that for many people including myself. Your partner being turned on is the biggest turn on. The moment after I cum is probably the least turned on moment of my day. As much as I try to fake it, she senses that, and becomes less aroused as well. I try my best to make her cum first because if she hasn’t orgasmed by the time I have, it isn’t going to happen no matter how hard I try.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:33 PM
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I personally think everyone should be responsible for their own orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:40 PM
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For sure it is necessary to look at the history of women’s sexuality. It is necessary to look at the history of small sexuality actually. People used to be much more sexually oppressed. They used to tell boys that even something as innocent and vanilla as masturbating would cause all kinds of problems. In some ways we are still sexually oppressed in the west, esp in America... Men to this day feel that they can’t be open about their sexual desires. Look at the forums here and you will see men as…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 05:38 PM
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I had a someone say that instead of having this conversation, it would be more productive to ask women what their experiences are. Well I have asked. As you pointed out, the answers I get are far from productive. A better question would be for women to ask men what difficulties they face in making women orgasm. The biggest on my list is dishonesty about what makes them orgasm. Faking orgasms, being too embarrassed to talk about what makes them orgasm, the fact that she doesn’t want to continue a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:20 PM
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Yes I agree. And for women to ask men about what they find difficult about it. That will help too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:12 PM
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Yes. From both giving and receiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:08 PM
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It speaks volumes that you had to learn how to have an orgasm I had my first orgasm at 12 before I learned what sex was, much less orgasms. I was watching a sex scene on cable TV and I wasn’t even touching myself. It just happened and I was confused. That fact speaks volumes about why men have a lot of orgasms. It isn’t that women are more skilled or more attentive and selfless than men, but that it is so easy to make a man orgasm, that not lasting long enough is a bigger problem than not having…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:53 AM
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Do you think it could have something to do with it simply being a lot easier for men to have orgasms? I mean after all, premature ejaculation is a problem for many men as you point out here. Premature orgasming isn’t a problem for women. So being that men accidentally orgasming is a major problem, couldn’t you say that it is simply more difficult to get a woman to have an orgasm, so women who own their own set are likely to have had time to develop that skill. That on top of the fact that your p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 11:26 AM
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Would you see how that would affect a woman’s ability to orgasm with a man? After all how else would a man know something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 03:07 AM
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So if this is true, and I don’t k is if it is, why would you think that men would have any clue about what actually turns a man on if this is true and women aren’t communicating their needs honestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:19 AM
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I think so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:17 AM
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What do you think the reason for that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:16 AM
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I can see that. I could see my someone being a bit upset if I asked her to get off me mid coitus because I wasn’t into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:11 AM
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Would you say the majority of women do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:57 AM
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Possible. But I like to think that more people are honest than dishonest. Maybe that is naive to take women at their face value when it comes to their pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:51 AM
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The thing about orgasms when you are in a girls ass is they can’t fake them. You can feel it because the sphincter spasms on your dick. So don’t think they are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:44 AM
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Meh, not too sure. I think lots of women think they don’t like it because they haven’t done it right yet. Most women I have done it with have said they can’t cum from it and then cum from it. It really depends on how you go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:39 AM
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It is a lot easier to fuck up. And takes a bit of practicing to get it to be pleasurable. But once you do learn it, it is a lot more pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:33 AM
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I think it just has a steeper learning curve than vaginal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:31 AM
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And yet gay men also have more orgasms than gay women. See a trend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 01:25 AM
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Definitely. And yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:57 AM
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I think orgasms are important. The world would be a better place with more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:57 AM
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Few things are more rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:55 AM
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It could be. I know that personally, I can barely last past the rimming part. So it is definitely all about the anal for me, but some people might be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:40 AM
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I see what you’re saying. It could be the case that having an orgasm makes you more willing to want to have anal sex. I know that in my own experience, the orgasm comes during the act itself but other people could be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:37 AM
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Personally I love it when it smells “natural”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:20 AM
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Is it everyone you are with? Or just some?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 12:14 AM
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This is incel drivel.
/r/MensRights02/03/20 12:40 AM
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Who cares? What is the point in gendered bathrooms anyways? What did you expect at a Taylor Swift concert? Why were you even at a T Swift concert anyways?
/r/MensRights02/03/20 12:38 AM
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Lol total rabbit hole
/r/MensRights01/03/20 04:41 PM
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Certainly use those words if you want to make that point. It is a good point to be making. If you don’t want the conversation to go down that rabbit hole then you can use the word bigoted.
/r/MensRights01/03/20 12:31 PM
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I prefer the word bigoted personally because it is a more pure word, un-tainted by identity politics, where it has been used as a bludgeon to silence people from discussing certain issues. Also using that word stops the conversation from being derailed. But you have a totally valid point and if you want to make that point, then for sure use the word. That conversation is certainly worth having too.
/r/MensRights01/03/20 12:20 PM
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K
/r/MensRights29/02/20 11:04 PM
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Pro tip: when discussing equalism with a feminist or SJW, use the word “bigoted” instead of racist or sexist. The words “racist” and “sexist” have been specifically defined in their sociological contexts to only apply to bigotry against groups of people with “systemic” oppression. It only applies to systemic oppression, not other forms of oppression which are arguably more impactful. So it is linguistically true that white people cant experience racism, and that men can’t experience sexism. It i…
/r/MensRights29/02/20 11:01 PM
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I think you are lost looking for some Incel or MGTOW sub.
/r/MensRights29/02/20 09:45 PM
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Easy now let’s not make bigoted sweeping generalizations and stoop to that level. I know they do it but we are better than that.
/r/MensRights29/02/20 01:28 PM
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All bathrooms should be unisex. This is common in Europe and other places. Nothing bad happens. The private stuff is done in stalls anyways. Why are we so scared of washing our hands in front of the opposite sex? And why do one-holers have to be gendered? So weird.
/r/MensRights29/02/20 01:23 PM
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Wow the bigotry gets more and more blatant. This is incel-level caricature of an entire gender. When he gets old and marries the young woman reminds me of incels whining about “alpha fucks and beta bucks” The genders have different levels of sexual power at different times in their lives. And some people don’t get it at all if they aren’t good-looking or rich. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights29/02/20 01:07 PM
6

My uncle got breast cancer. The hospital staff literally laughed at him when they heard it.
/r/MensRights29/02/20 12:57 PM
3

Woman can’t be sexist actually.
/r/MensRights28/02/20 11:17 AM
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Also misogynistic: holding the door for women.
/r/MensRights27/02/20 10:39 PM
1

Feminism is right about lots of things. You can reach the same conclusions but blame different things. Broken clocks are right twice a day. And they have some issues that I am totally onboard with as well. But having feminism as a bogey-man isn’t necessarily any less valid than having “the patriarchy” as a bogey-man responsible for every single gender disparity there is. Even when you point out all the ways in which men don’t have privilege, or the ways in which women have privilege, according t…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 05:40 PM
1

Statistics aren’t great tools for revealing social issues. Even less so when you are zooming in on a narrowly defined, mostly invisible crime with a lot of grey areas like how close the family member has to be and how much time they spend in your house and whether or not it happens at home or somewhere else and whether or not it is reported or not. You won’t reach any useful conclusions for stats on things like this. Stats are more reliable with things that are always recorded, like death. Murde…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 05:08 PM
1

How about instead of teaching men how not to be tricked, we teach women not to trick. In case you are underestimating the scale of just how socially acceptable it is to trick men out of the control of their reproductive rights, check out this clip by Wendy Williams. Keep in mind that this isn’t taken out of context and posted by an MRA. It is on Wendy William’s own channel. She even throws in a feminist justification for advising the woman to trick her husband into getting her pregnant. “Your bo…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 02:22 PM
10

We don’t mind people who disagree with us posting here. I don’t at least. I really hate echo chambers. They allow things to get really unreasonable unchecked by voices of reason. I am sure there are bigots on this sub. I prefer not to use gendered language like misogyny and misandry, because the way I see it, bigotry is bigotry is bigotry. Sexism is another word I like to avoid because feminists keep saying men can’t experience sexism because they have systemic privilege. Bullshit. Why is system…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 01:36 AM
4

Check out littlespace and its related subs here on reddit. I call that stuff Pedo Play, which they don’t like but it is more descriptive and accurate than “little”. I have seen posts over there where girls find out their “daddy” is an actual pedophile, not just a pretend one. I just have to think: “you don’t say...!”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:35 PM
12

Related anecdote: I was dating a woman who wanted to have a threesome with a woman. (Or so I thought, but I later found out it was most likely just a ploy to get her ego massaged and throw something in my face). She told me to watch. She would match with almost everyone, then if she thought one was hot, just be straight up “hey nice tits, wanna fuck” or something along those lines. They were all like “sure, when and where?” Whether or not those lines come across as creepy depends a lot on who yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:45 PM
3

Every man is different, and want different things from people in their life. What I would like the most is to be asked what it is I want. That never happens for me. You don’t have to do every single thing I want. But taking an interest and making an effort to care about what I want is a huge advantage over the vast majority of women. In my experience, they have the attitude of “this is the way I am. Deal with it or move on” the “if you can’t handle me at my worst, then you don’t deserve me at my…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:29 PM
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According to the CDC, they are also more likely to beat their spouse: http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/
/r/MensRights15/02/20 08:15 PM
1

I find it hard to find stand-up comedians that I like. What I find is that they all seem to do this faux-feminist/ihavesex/female “bro” schtick. Think Niki Glaser, Amy Schumer, Michelle Wolf, Beth Stelling, Natasha Leggero, Jenny Zigrino, Whitney Cummings, Jessi Klein. I think they do it to pander a little bit to everybody. Say some bits from the feminist soundboard (think Michelle Wolf at the whitehouse correspondent’s dinner) but actually be very unfeminist when you are being real on The Joe R…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 08:11 PM
5

You are right. Maybe justice is the wrong word because it is inherent in the justice system that some guilty people will walk free because of insufficient evidence. Revenge is a better word. It is hard for victims to get revenge. I think you mean statute, not statue. And rape kits are useful, but they don’t necessarily tell you if the sex was consensual or not. It wouldn’t help in the Weinstein case for example as he agrees that he had sex with the accusers. Rape kits just collect forensic evide…
/r/MensRights14/02/20 12:20 PM
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Most states do not require corroborating evidence to convict a person for rape. I get the point. It is pretty hard to get justice for rape survivors if you require evidence. Usually there is none in cases of rape, and no witnesses either. But our justice system is generally built on the premise that it is better to let 1000 guilty go free than let one innocent person rot away in jail. This ethic seems to be being eroded by zealots looking for revenge. But that isn’t a hill anyone is willing to d…
/r/MensRights14/02/20 11:26 AM
10

It’s just fun to switch roles. It is just play. Don’t think too hard about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:38 PM
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This is actually the most stable form of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 01:34 PM
1

If they are single hole bathrooms with doors that lock I don’t pay attention to the sign. Toilets and sinks are the same for men as they are for women. Nobody has bothered me. Bathrooms should be first come, first served, regardless of your gender.
/r/MensRights25/01/20 05:20 PM
1

Is that the “no makeup” look you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:40 AM
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Not sure, it is only from shoulders up. But that photo doesn’t have the “no makeup look” far from it. Plus you can only paint over ugly so much. It doesn’t take you from a 3 to a 9, maybe makeup takes you a point or two up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:26 AM
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Men have literal “arms” races as well. In the gym. Life is tough. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:13 AM
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To a victim of something, it really doesn’t matter what gender the perp is. The outcome is the same.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 07:06 PM
2

No go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:39 PM
3

I don’t think men want to feel safe and protected. I can’t speak for all men, but I don’t mind that the world is a dangerous place for men. I find that risk for me has a way of sharpening me. I have always gravitated to danger. Extreme sports, war, high risk occupations, dangerous destinations for “holidays”. And I attribute that to the discipline, focus, and acumen I have today. And yes, bad things have happened to me. Bad injuries, armed robbery...I have been shot at many times and been missed…
/r/MensRights17/01/20 10:56 PM
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I am not iffy about women having any freedom of choice. Nor men for that matter. If isn’t like women are making these choices under duress- on average. I mean the wage gap is only 15 cents on the dollar. And that is before you control for the factors like men working more hours, taking more dangerous jobs and accepting more responsibility at work. So women, on average, have decent choices on the table. The problem is that many women have another option on the table that very few men do. They can…
/r/MensRights08/01/20 12:25 AM
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You are right, birth control might cost more than condoms, it depends on how much sex you have. However, women’s birth control is covered by Obamacare and most insurances. Condoms are not, and neither are vasectomies. I don’t know much about who decides to abort and not, but I am sure there are lots of cases where the man wants to abort and the woman does not if the other way around isn’t common. Not an easy problem to fix because there are serious consequences for a woman for both a pregnancy a…
/r/MensRights07/01/20 03:13 AM
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Birth control? Men have only one single choice besides sterilization. And not only that but they have zero day in abortion! Believe me, there is enough demand for male birth control that they have been working hard to develop one but science just hasn’t found one yet. Wage gap. Well that is not caused by gender, only correlated. There are confounding factors that if you control for, the wage gap disappears. I am not sure that the wage gap is even high enough to compensate for the extra responsib…
/r/MensRights07/01/20 02:12 AM
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I don’t know about feminism, but people identifying as feminists tend to lean towards a victim mindset. They encourage people to identify as victims. This is a bad mindset to be in, even if it is true. It is hard to become successful when you have that mindset. It is similar to the study that showed that successful are less likely to believe strongly in luck. Does that mean that luck isn’t important to success? No it doesn’t. But believing that is true is a useful lie that will help you become s…
/r/MensRights01/01/20 12:43 AM
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...and yet we are told that it is FEMALE sexuality that has been feared and suppressed all these years.
/r/MensRights20/12/19 01:30 AM
2

I feel the same as I always did. How do you feel?
/r/MensRights12/12/19 03:44 PM
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It does say it is a stereotype and a trope then does pens the article saying how it is a bad stereotype. The angry white male one does not.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 02:47 PM
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Yes it was edited 15 mins ago to remove exactly that wording. Must have been someone who read this post. Can anyone change it back?
/r/MensRights12/12/19 02:45 PM
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Maybe you aren’t a strong learner, but you have the right attitude with regards to other people’s opinions. And that is good, if you only read one sentence in the post, it is good you read that one. It was the most important.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 02:33 PM
2

That’s the correct attitude to have! Instead of changing your attitude based on someone else’s. You learn fast!
/r/MensRights12/12/19 01:59 PM
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This kind of tit for tat is immature. Strong people live how they feel is right no matter what other people are doing. If what you accept depends on what other people are doing, then you are not living with integrity. There are plenty of other people who are totally ok with objectification. Maybe even the majority of people. A small but extremely vocal minority (that vocal minority doesn’t include “People” as far as I know) are not. Pointing out that a magazine that isn’t against objectification…
/r/MensRights12/12/19 01:43 PM
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Man here. I totally agree. Objectification is ok. I never understood what was the problem with objectification. It seems so refreshing when they do it to men.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 03:29 AM
1

Notice that women are also sending a higher proportion of their messages to men of medium attractiveness and up than the proportion of total men they rate as medium attractiveness and up. They are also reaching out of their league just as much as they are settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 04:49 PM
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If you interpret the graphs a bit deeper, you will see that women reach just as much as they settle, and so do men. Yes, women are more likely than men to message a perceived “1” or “2” than men, and less likely to message the “10s” than men are, but if you look at the areas between the lines before and after the intersection, you will be able to estimate the likelihood of each gender to either “reach” or “settle” in the messages they send. The areas where the messaging lines are below the attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 04:41 PM
1

I never thought about the offspring part of it. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 01:41 PM
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Some mentioned this and were heavily downvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 01:28 PM
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Rationally, it doesn’t have much value at all. The likelihood of divorce is greater the bigger the age gap, and younger people have less to bring to the table. They have worse life skills generally, and generally can’t contribute financially as well as older women. Also, if it is just about the sex appeal, you don’t need to get married you can have sex with people without marrying them. Also you could have a polyamorous lifestyle if you wished, and have sex with young people, but then have an ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 01:22 PM
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Sounds like a bad deal for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 01:14 AM
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Young people generally have less to bring to the table in a relationship. Be that life skills like homemaking, experience with finances, money, wise decision-making, etc. Generally they have looks and energy, but little else to offer. Kind of a bad deal for a guy who is essentially “paying” with half his life’s work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 12:41 AM
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Standing up to pee is not a part of male sexuality. It’s just gross. Making fun of people who pee standing up isn’t sexist because sitting down to pee doesn’t make you any less of a man. It is like saying that a rule against murder is sexist because most murderers are men. And I agree, people with thin skin have too much influence. But it isn’t helpful to just add more inappropriate over sensitive outrage to the mix. That just makes things worse. It is playing their game.
/r/MensRights08/11/19 07:39 PM
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This is braincel nonsense. People don’t like other people having conversations in languages they don’t speak in their company. Especially when everyone involves speaks English. It is super rude. Can’t say I haven’t done it myself, because I wanted to practice, but my wife hates it when I do it and I don’t like when other people do the same to me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/11/19 07:11 PM
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Ya, I get it, they are inconsistent in their arguments. But are you actually bothered by objectification or just their inconsistencies?
/r/MensRights08/11/19 02:10 AM
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You poor boy!
/r/MensRights08/11/19 01:49 AM
1

Oh. Well. You are doing it wrong. Maybe you should get directions.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 09:26 PM
1

Directions unclear, dick stuck in toilet seat.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 08:45 PM
1

Try peeing sitting down with a boner. You will be surprised. Promise it won’t make you instantly less manly, so don’t be scared of that.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 07:47 PM
1

Well then you definitely shouldn’t be standing up. In that case, if you can’t make your penis point down when your torso is leaning forward sitting down, you will have an even harder time with your torso upright. Not to mention if you have just came, nobody knows which direction it will spray at first. Better to sit.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 06:59 PM
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Call me crazy, but I wouldn’t mind my bulge being featured. Why is everyone so butt hurt over “objectification”? I really don’t get it. I don’t understand the though process behind stooping to the level that it requires to be outraged about this. I get it. They are inconsistent. Funny to point that out. But to actually whine about this? Of course people like looking at sex parts of the opposite sex! Why wouldn’t we? That is fine.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 06:55 PM
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I wish this was the extent of that discrepancy! If it was we wouldn’t have anything to complain about. I am a man and I have always said that peeing standing up into a bowl is savage. I don’t want to have to decide between dealing with backsplash on my legs and feet and sitting on someone else’s backsplash! This isn’t about gender wars, it is about having respect for your fellow men.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 05:20 PM
1

Getting triggered over an unenforceable cheeky sign that could easily have been written by a guy like myself with no misandry in him is super lame. If you can’t sit down, because you can’t squat or something, you can ignore the sign and carry on with your day totally unaffected if you want.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 04:22 PM
1

r/badmensanatomy
/r/MensRights07/11/19 03:10 PM
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Look guys. Whining about petty shit makes us look as bad as feminists. There are lots of real issues to be talking about. Getting triggered over a totally unenforceable sign is stopping to their level.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 03:09 PM
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If it works, and it might, I don’t know, most men aren’t doing that. Plus at the end of the pee when your stream changes pressure it may be not possible to shoot that far.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 01:46 PM
1

Or a janitor sick of cleaning backsplash. Most janitors are men. I am a man and I don’t even clean toilets for a living and I am sick of backsplash because I sit to pee because I don’t like getting backsplash on my legs and feet.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 01:44 PM
1

That obvious reason is because other people piss on the seat. Or splash on it from stand-up peeing. I think standing to pee in a bowl toilet is savage.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 12:20 PM
1

Probably a janitor, most of which are men.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 12:13 PM
0

But peeing standing up has backsplash from the pee hitting the water from height. Wouldn’t you rather not sit in that backsplash? I am a sit-down guy and I am all for this sign. Peeing standing up is savage, you get backsplash on your legs and feet (not to mention the rest of the bathroom and toilet seat)
/r/MensRights07/11/19 11:47 AM
1

Put your hand on your penis and aim it down. The penis is flexible. It points where you point it.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 11:44 AM
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Yes I am a man and I don’t want to choose between sitting in someone else’s piss backsplash spatter and catching that same splatter on my own feet and legs. Urinals are savage too. Way too much backsplash. Prefer to piss in the sink if I get the chance, zero splash.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 11:43 AM
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Standing to pee is savage. I see lots of comments about girls bathrooms being dirtier, because they hover piss, etc. great, I have seen anti hover-pissing signs too. That is also gross. However, standing to pee is also gross. If you stand to pee when wearing shorts and flip flops, even if your aim is perfect, there is splash back. Simply from the pee hitting the water from height. It gets all over your legs and feet too. I personally prefer pee-free pants and shoes. And the stand-pee crowd get t…
/r/MensRights07/11/19 11:36 AM
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Man, you are looking at a factor that is ALWAYS there in at least some measure, esp if you are including just being comfortable with yourself. You can’t draw any useful conclusions from what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:47 PM
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But comfort is a relative thing. Wouldn’t you be more comfortable if you weren’t introducing risk into your sex life? Yes I get that there is SOME comfort in the situation, there is some level of comfort in every situation, even the mountain climber finds comfort in his chocolate bar and the boxer by the rules or the ref. And some people who like more hardcore BDSM or even straight up rape play, not even consensual non-consent but actual rape, might find your version too comfortable to be arousi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 01:17 PM
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I know my SO gets turned on by risky situations. And some people get aroused by more risky even dangerous situations. Go to r/rapekink to see what I mean by that. There is nothing comfortable about that. Just like some people’s idea of an enjoyable night is to sit at home in their jammies and watch a movie with the dog, and others would rather be on a mountain with risks of avalanches, falls, and frostbite, or be in a boxing match getting their brains scrambled, you can’t over generalize about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 12:45 PM
1

Suuure you don’t.... it’s ok. This is a safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 11:36 AM
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To be fair, feminists have been complaining that they aren’t developing male birth control for some time. They just erroneously cote this as yet another example of male privilege. If you are a woman, and you squint really hard, I can see how you might see this as an example of male privilege/patriarchy/oppression of women, because birth control takes work to manage, and has negative side effects. However, if you ask me, an actual male, I would rather do that work and be in control than not. In a…
/r/MensRights03/11/19 11:10 PM
1

Yes exactly. One person brought up a good point. Internet algorithms serve up what it thinks you will like based on you pst browsing habits. Maybe this is what causes many people to believe that most porn is violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:14 PM
1

Do you have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:12 PM
2

Well it varies. I had one person on reddit scoff that I thought the porn on r/gonewild was not violent. I did not inquire further. I could see that convo would not be productive at all. Yes I think that people who complain that all porn is violent have some explaining to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:12 PM
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Yes I agree. They are generally avoided by women. That is my point, there is plenty women can do that they are not choosing to do already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 02:07 PM
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There always seem to be good paying jobs available for people who show up on time willing to get dirty and work hard. Arborists earn almost 50k a year, and you don’t need a degree or really any skill that you can’t learn as you go, and there is endless demand. If you save up enough to buy your own tractor and truck, you can earn at least double that working for yourself. Up to 200k in wealthier areas. Military will rest your intestinal fortitude more than porn will, and it is always hiring. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:09 PM
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But weirdly, they also hate it for showing them things they wanted to see as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:42 AM
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Other studies are independently reaching the same figures. https://www.oprah.com/relationships/what-kind-of-woman-watches-porn-researchers-find-answers/all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:41 AM
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I think people actually need the outrage to get off on this. If it wasn’t taboo I don’t think they would find it so hot. Such is sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:27 AM
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I was that guy. My first GF really had to ask me to spank her. I couldn’t get into it. Even though I had watched porn for a decade by then, I just couldn’t get into being rough with her. Needless to say that sexual relationship did not go well. It took me several girlfriends being disappointed in me before I finally internalized and became comfortable with the fact that a huge percentage of women like you to be a bit rough and inflict at least some pain on them. And I don’t know why it was so ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:26 AM
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Yes i don’t doubt that there are bastards in the industry. Like that facialabuse guy, and the Girls do Porn guy. That type of behavior I condemn. And I don’t find industrial porn hot. That industry is struggling now. The majority of porn watched now is amateur and actor produced. That is the good shit. And that is mostly what people are watching. And yes a lot of the feminist anti-porners are also anti-BDSM and anti-kink. No surprise there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:19 AM
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Yes, some pornographers are exploiting women by not being honest, letting people perform without health checks etc. For sure. That is something I condemn. But that isn’t “porn” it is a certain type of pornographer, that complains his profit margins are thin because, surprise, not many people want to watch that type of porn, as evidenced by the content in the most popular porn subs. I don’t know if I agree that anal porn is a problem. That is addressed In the OP under the link about the orgasm ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 12:08 AM
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You might be right, Pornhub might not know the gender of their users for sure. I don’t know for sure how they figure that out. But a quick google search showed other studies independently reaching similar figures. Here is one such example at the top of the search results: “In the first three months of 2007, according to Nielsen/NetRatings, approximately one in three visitors to adult entertainment Web sites was female; during the same period, nearly 13 million American women were checking out po…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 11:55 PM
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Really? You can’t find a non-deep throating video without searching for hours? What kind of porn are you watching? Again I fear the anti-porners have skewed the perception of the porn most of us are watching. Go to the list of top porn subs in the OP. I went to the first one I knew that would predominantly feature blowjobs, r/girlsfinishingthejob out of the top 6 posts sorted by hot right now, 4 feature blowjobs, not one of those feature deepthroat. As for anal, check out the link on the orgasm …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 11:44 PM
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The internet knows when I am looking for a haircut before I even ask it. It knows your gender better than you do I am afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 09:26 PM
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That point is made pretty convincingly in the link I provided to the most popular subs ranked by subscribers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 09:24 PM
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Really? Then what do you make of that study on the orgasm gap that I posted? What problems is it causing do you think? The people who ARE having anal are really enjoying themselves. What harm is porn doing in this regard if it isn’t causing people do do an act they don’t enjoy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 08:25 PM
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There could be a problem with the date, or more likely, people aren’t totally honest about their porn habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:54 PM
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Congrats man! I hope you all enjoy yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:49 PM
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Of course you hear from people who have problems with it. Nobody else has any reasons to be writing anything on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:46 PM
1

Got a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:45 PM
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I didn’t dispute any particular study. You can’t compare inconsistencies from two different men with two different ideas. We aren’t all the same. For sure there is porn out there that harms women. There is also porn out there that harms men. I just put up a list of the most popular porn subs for people to peruse and see for themselves just how popular those types of porn actually are so we are being realistic about the scale of the problem. It is like saying “drugs harm people so we need to ban …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:45 PM
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For sure there are some negative things about some types of porn, as well as negative things about smartphone addiction. My point was this type of porn you are describing is not very popular (you can see yourself by scrolling through the top ten or more most popular porn subs) About the seven penises thing, if you look at the stats on women’s porn watching preferences, you will see that gangbang porn is actually more popular with women than it is with men. I don’t know necessarily if watching a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 06:22 PM
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I agree that just because women are more likely to watch a certain type of porn doesn’t mean that they necessarily enjoy doing those things IRL. But you can also use that argument about the porn that men watch as well. Most of the feminist anti-porn argument rests on the fact that violent porn isn’t just fantasy, it is affecting how people actually have sex. I, just like you, don’t know if I agree with that. I think that just because a man watches violent porn doesn’t necessarily mean that he wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 06:12 PM
1

Individuals make up statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:28 PM
1

Given these choices, I would choose to smuggle the drugs. However given a different task to do and a different consequence, I might chose the consequence instead of the task. Like if the choice were to swim a mile in cold water or get a paper cut I might chose to get the paper cut. If we go more relevant to the situation, if I were to choose between fucking someone I didn’t want to and not being famous and rich, I would probably choose too fuck. Not that that is really fair to people who have mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 01:14 AM
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These people don’t have to choose between being broke and being millionaires, there are always oilfield and mining jobs paying near 6 figures, military for any able bodied human who wants to join with college benefits, basic labor like landscaping, roofing, tree planting, which if you are willing to do hard labor and work for yourself pays 6 figs a year. There is no need to be broke. Why is rape a problem? I have no idea why that is a thing. I can’t understand why someone would really want to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 01:00 AM
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If my career paid what theirs do and it was Harvina Weinstein, then hell ya I would do that. Actually even to double my much more modest pay I would do that. I might even do it for a new car. Sex isn’t a huge deal. It doesn’t break you or taint you. And I get it. They worked hard. But nobody works 1,000 times harder than the average American which is what these people can earn. To get that amount of money, it takes more than hard work. Not that I am saying that I would personally do what Weinste…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 11:27 PM
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It is treated very seriously. You are likely to be murdered in jail if you are a sex offender, and guards are known to stand aside and let it happen. Also there is a sex offender registry ensuring that even after you have paid your debt to society, you are never allowed to live a normal life. Meanwhile if you murder someone, once you have done your time, there are charities out there to rehabilitate you and re-integrate you as a normal functioning member of society. I have even hired people from…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 10:17 PM
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How many millions of dollars did Hayak get paid to make Frida? And all she had to do was have a sex scene with Ashley Judd, which is what the fuss is about if I am reading correct. I have done way worse things for way less money. If you make extraordinary amounts of money, you are going to need to do extraordinary things and sell out. No big surprise there. You think male multi-millionaires got where they were without stepping out of their comfort zone? Everyone needs to suck someone’s dick, fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 10:11 PM
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Well it would be if Weinstein threatened to kill those women if they didn’t sleep with him. Threatening to not make someone rich and famous, if they weren’t already, is not the same as threatening to kill someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 07:49 PM
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What is your source for this. I have been looking for a similar stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:20 PM
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Well, yes, kind of. But it is the most serious crime I know of that can be convicted without evidence that even a crime occurred, much less that the accused committed said crime. Most states don’t need corroborating evidence to convict an alleged rapist. Plea bargains are common which means there are also a higher risk of false confessions, hence the slap on the wrist. For a crime so socially unacceptable, that you are likely to be murdered for in prison by other inmates (where is this “rape cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 03:06 PM
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I don’t think it proves anything. But if this is someone’s idea of what makes a hard life/job then yeesh... don’t know what to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 07:46 PM
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You know in countries where SAHM isn’t a thing except for with the wealthy, that normal parents deal with these imperfections of daily life, AND a career, AND a family too right? I mean ya, don’t get me wrong, if I have the whole day to get my chores done, it takes me all day, and it feels like I was doing something the whole time, but when I don’t have the time, it miraculously doesn’t take all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 02:13 AM
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It isn’t about trying. Real sexual compatibility isn’t forced. I mean sure a woman will get points for trying, and it will be taken into consideration early in the relationship I can be a bit looser with that because I have seen things start off a bit awkward while we learn each other. So if it sucks right away but I see potential for real sexual chemistry, that trying might play into my decision but if it ultimately doesn’t end up realizing in a great sex life within a period of time, I am not …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:59 PM
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Personally, you can put your hierarchy of priorities any way you wish. Personally good sex is a necessary but not sufficient condition for a relationship. It is just a must have or there is no relationship. I would rather be roommates with a close male friend than a romanticly entwined woman who I feel is holding me back from the sex life I want. You don’t have to choose between good in bed and other qualities you want. There are lots of great women out there who give good head.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:02 PM
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So you committed to someone you didn’t know the most important thing about when it comes to choosing a partner. You realize that right? Risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:51 PM
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Dude once you get around the block a few times you will realize that the quality of sexual partners varies between extremely disappointing and no better than nothing at all or actually worse than nothing at all, to absolute transcendence. And the former is hard to find. Disappointing partners are easier to find because compatibility is not the norm, it is the exception. If you stay virgin until marriage, you are stacking the deck against yourself. The only way to know if you are compatible is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:49 PM
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Why would you make a commitment without finding out you are sexually compatible? If someone doesn’t want to have sex by the third date (male or female) there is a good chance they are not attracted to you and are dating you for some other reason, like status, security, loneliness, desperation etc. Don’t commit unless you know they are dating you for reasons you are ok with. If you are ok with just being a BB then ya, find a woman who is ok waiting three dates to have sex with you. But ya, dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:41 PM
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Well ya but from what I hear from large breasted women, it isn’t that comfortable to even to a quick sprint to catch a bus without a bra even stairs are painful. From what I hear from women. So that is why small breasted women are the only ones going braless. But yes I agree with you that people are a bit less harsh judging women who dress outside the normal informal dress codes of certain spaces. I mean, in my office there is this woman who would dress with way more skin covered and a bit more …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 09:30 PM
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I think almost all social studies are unreliable. Society is complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:39 PM
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So you think a guy wouldn’t be shamed for showing up to a kids birthday party and daisy dukes and a belly top? Come on... And yes, there is the shirtless thing is is more acceptable for a man to go shirtless, but in case you noticed, men don’t have breasts. I am totally on your side that I would love to see more topless women out there, but they seem to go to great lengths to make sure to not show their nipples to anyone. And as far as the bra goes, I know a lot of smaller breasted women go with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:39 PM
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Yes 6 pct sounds high but it could be lower for sure. I don’t think it is easy to get very precise with this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:47 AM
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Yes I agree that is what she is saying. And I would also say that the subs men follow is a pretty good window into male sexuality. The predatory stuff is pretty low in popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:40 AM
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So I did at your suggestion go to the most popular NSFW sub “r/gonewild” and took the top post sorted by hot. The comments were a few hundred comments along the line of “OMG so hot” “love it”, and other positive words and expressions of desire, followed by one single nasty comment that was heavily downvoted. Still not convinced men are as predatory as you say they are. They were pretty wholesome encouraging comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:17 AM
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For sure everyone is capable of rape. Hell I believe most people are capable of murder. There is that famous shocking experiment called the Milgram experiment that kind of suggests this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment I have been to war and I can see why the raping part would not have seemed like a big deal. People’s frame of reference for what is acceptable behavior and not kind of flies out the window when you are seeing people do crazy shit to each other all the time and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 11:21 PM
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Just googled “what percentage of men are rapists” and some study came up. I have heard similar numbers before but ya based on my life experience 6 pct seems high for sure but what do I know? Very few rapists are talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 08:39 PM
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Yes that seems more accurate. You can be aggressive without being predatory. I consider myself aggressive. And I would say most males are more aggressive than most women so I would say that fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 08:23 PM
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You can imprison someone for rape without proof. They managed to get rid of the corroborating evidence requirement for rape convictions in most states awhile ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 07:33 PM
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So you think most rape accusations are fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 06:36 PM
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Look at this list of most popular NSFW subreddits and tell me how far down the list you have to go to see a predatory subreddit. I would say it is the 175th most popular NSFW sub, strugglefucking. Not exactly mainstream. Edit: so u/Regal_Newt asked me to go look at the comment section of the NSFW subs to prove her point just what scumbags men are even though they are subscribing to some pretty wholesome NSFW subs generally. So I went to r/gonewild and read the comments. There were a few hundred …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 06:32 PM
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Yes I agree with the freedom to dress thing. Think about any time someone is up in arms about someone slut shaming a woman who showed too much leg, belly, or cleavage in a professional setting, then ask yourself if a man could have gotten away with showing the same skin in the same setting. The answer is always no. And yes, the amount of times that I have had to explain that I am not gay because I like anal and that even if I was gay I would not be ashamed of it anyways, is too damn high. And ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 06:28 PM
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Meh, saying male sexuality is predatory is like saying Americans are blond. Only 6 percent of men are rapists. They are raping a lot of different women, hence why victimization rates are higher than 6 pct. I would say that generally we are still quite a bit more sexually repressed than the average man wishes society was. Visits to strip clubs have to be done discretely in most circles, and most men have to hide their porn. A nipple shown in a sex scene on TV automatically earns it an R rating wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 06:21 PM
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Birth control is covered by most insurance policies I. The USA since the affordable care act. https://help.ihealthagents.com/hc/en-us/articles/224903368-Is-it-True-That-Health-Plans-are-Now-Required-to-Cover-Birth-Control-for-Free- Fun fact: according to this website, women’s sterilization procedures are covered, but services related to a man’s reproductive capacity, like vasectomies, are not covered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 06:15 PM
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I feel shame. I must have gotten that from somewhere. Just the fact that you think society is constantly catering to male sexuality is evidence of this. It might seem that way from a perspective of someone who finds male sexuality shameful though. Take for example: Any sexualized nudity in a film rated in USA will earn it an R rating. You can portray actual murder in a PG-13 movie. People feel more uncomfortable around a nipple in a sex scene than they are with actual murder. Let that sink in. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 05:53 PM
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Wait, worldwide, women viewers make up 29 percent of porn traffic. I wouldn’t say the industry caters “almost solely to men” that is almost a third of traffic! And if you look at the most popular search results by gender, you will see most of the top ten list is the same, just a bit re-arranged. So the styles of porn most women want to watch also seems to be being produced. What do you mean when you say caters almost solely to men? https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/news/a52061/most-popular-p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 05:32 PM
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As in, some aspects of male sexuality or the whole thing? I had read that only 6% of men are rapists. Those 6% rape a lot of women, so the amount of women who were raped is a lot higher than 6%, but it seems a bit misleading to say that it is an aspect of maleness. That is about as common a trait as being a blond American. Your statement that male sexuality is predatory is roughly as correct as saying Americans are very blond people. Also, look at this list of the most popular nsfw subs: http://…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 05:08 PM
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Depends on how you use it. I think smartphone addiction brings a new problem to the table, but that isn’t porn in itself that is the problem. As well, the “industry” has pretty poor standards of how it treats its employees. But I don’t really enjoy “industrial” porn. Not even the “ethically produced” stuff like Erika Lust. I don’t worry about the “unrealistic expectations” part of it. Like most genres of films like westerns and cop movies, nobody is expecting it to be realistic. In fact the very…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 05:15 PM
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No strangers were often involved I. The raising of children. That is the origin of “it takes a village to raise a child” being raised by many people socializes children in a much more balanced way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:40 PM
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So much of what conservatives tout as “traditional” values is actually pretty modern.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:38 PM
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What if I being a SAHM isn’t necessarily better for the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:36 PM
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SAHMs seem to add very little if any value to the rearing of children. Having lived in places where SAHMing isn’t even really a thing except for the rich, and even the rich don’t often do it due to it not being the culture, I don’t see what value it adds. Yes children need parents, but not necessarily parents who do only that. And yes, they make it easier for the man to have a career by taking care of chores, but there aren’t so many chores that you don’t have time for a career. If there are, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 03:35 PM
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Could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 08:07 PM
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For lots of them yes it registers as clingy ness and rudeness, and I would agree with those girls, but for some girls, like the one whose post I saw, it is attractive. I think those girls are wrong but i have been told by women in the past that I gave up too easily. I made it very clear that I was sexually attracted to my wife in high school. Then when she said she H-D a boyfriend I backed off. Later in life we became a couple, and she said “you know you could have H-D me had you just not taken …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 08:06 PM
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I dunno, I mean, doing something because you were convinced to do it not because you initially wanted to do it is quite far from rape. Some feminists complain about the orgasm gap, and claim it is men’s fault and that it needs to be fixed. I mean sure we can work on it, but it sounds like they too are trying to convince men to do sexual things that they didn’t necessarily want to do on their own. That being said I personally think the orgasm gap isn’t due to men not caring enough about women’s p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 07:09 PM
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I don’t know where you got the first quote, but “Last Minute Resistance” is a pick up artistry term, not a RP term. There is a difference between the two communities. PUAs learn to fake the behavior of attractive people to get women to have sex with them by basically any means necessary. RP is more how to actually become an attractive person so you don’t have to fake it. RP stresses “abundance mentality” is attractive. Pressuring a woman to have sex with you isn’t abundance mentality. Not that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:48 PM
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It is true. My SO wanted me to be rough with her so I gave her a safe word and she didn’t want a safe word because it would make it “less real”. I mean I kind of get it. If you think that rape is hot, then it is kind of a turnoff to have to ask for it and then also be able to say no at any point. Then it is just sex. If you are into pain then fine, that works, but if it is rape you find hot, then I can see why CNC doesn’t do it for some people. Over on r/rapekink, you will see women who use “rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:36 PM
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I don’t know if it is just a male problem. I was reading the other day a woman posting on r/datingoverthirty that she had turned a guy down, and he kept asking and that she found his persistence sexy. So ya some women want to be convinced to have sex. It convincing and coercing are totally different things. Most guys aren’t coercive. Most of the raping out there is done by serial rapists so even though the amount of women being raped is too damn high, rapiness isn’t ingrained in mainstream male …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:28 PM
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It is like Esther Perel says “infidelity isn’t the only way you can cheat your partner”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:13 PM
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You can always make time for sex by prioritizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:12 PM
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Yes it always rubs me the wrong way when I see people divorce and hit the gym. You expected the person you love to want to fuck a lazy person who lets themselves go and has no self respect, even though you know damn well you would have problems convincing a stranger of any quality to desire you in that state of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:10 PM
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That or if you aren’t much of a sexual person, find someone who matches you libido, or don’t enforce monogamy on someone with a higher libido if you really want to be in a relationship with them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:06 PM
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I read it as more of an analogy or an example of how people should act than him actually expecting something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:02 PM
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My partner and I have a monogamy agreement that we remain sexually monogamous as long as we are having sex. If I can’t or don’t want to have sex for an extended period for some reason, I wouldn’t want to force her to be celibate against her will. That does seem cruel to me. Having an agreement like that takes the pressure off. We don’t feel the need to pressure each other to have sex against our will because we know we can always get it somewhere else if it keeps going on. Pressure isn’t sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:58 PM
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Yes it happens to both genders, but I have always avoided going down the rabbit hole of chasing the why. I remember I got really sick and had to take weeks off work and was in and out of the hospital, had an IV in my arm for weeks and weeks. I remember fucking like rabbits during that time, always ripping the IV out of my hand in the heat of the moment then regretting it. Another time I had a bad knee injury, and had to be in a wheelchair. I still went on tinder dates and brought girls home to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:54 PM
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I would say that both partners support each other. That being said, being with a stay at home mom isn’t necessary to have a career. You can have a career without the SAHM. I know plenty of families where both parents have high flying careers. However, the opposite isn’t true. You can’t have two full time parents without one person having a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:07 PM
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Man here. I can promise you that I don’t do this for adventure and fun. I always say, “there is a reason this job pays 6 figures and I can promise you it isn’t because I have some rare talent. It is because it is a fucking GRIND” no one would do it if it didn’t pay what it does. That being said, I have lived in lots of countries, and in countries with more “traditional” gender roles, women don’t feel the need to try to pretend that childrearing is as challenging as a career. I remember one Spani…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 10:17 AM
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Is dressing up like a middle eastern sultan blackface? Is dressing up as an character that happens to be African blackface? I thought blackface was a specific American practice with the intent to make fun of Africans with the large painted-on red lips. It doesn’t refer to people dressing up as a character of any other race for any purpose whatsoever. And I am not even sure if actual blackface was a practice that Canadians of this generation were even aware existed, much less been exposed to. Wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 08:58 AM
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Who said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 06:47 PM
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One correction: You aren’t just able to make a rape claim without evidence, but you don’t need any evidence to convict a person of rape. Yes you are unlikely to convince most reasonable people that a crime has beyond a reasonable doubt happened without any evidence of that crime. For (hopefully) obvious reasons. But what I find shocking is that it is lawful at all for judges and juries to deliver guilty verdicts without any evidence or a confession.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:44 AM
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We have no idea what percentage of rape allegations are false. I would say it would be reasonable to think that there are a higher number or fake accusations of rape than other crimes simply because it is the crime with the highest combination of social and legal punishment, and although it might be tough to prosecute, it is pretty safe to try because nobody will ever know for sure if you are lying. Other crimes are easier to prove a fake allegation. We will never ever know how many fake allegat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 12:07 AM
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It is true. Untested rape kits doesn’t mean police don’t care about rape, it probably just means that it wouldn’t be helpful in determining a rape occurred. Something else I learned since I typed this: 36 states don’t require corroborating evidence to convict a person of rape. I might be able to concede this is fair-given that there usually wouldn’t be evidence of a rape anyways, or witnesses. But this together with the fact that you can’t cross examine accusers/victims about their sexual past, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:49 PM
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Looks for a sex, and overall quality for LTRs. But I should note that the jumping off point for all this is looks. Like it is a necessary but not sufficient criteria. It gets me to notice them and it gets their foot in the door to see if there is any more substance to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 02:08 PM
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While I am personally on the more sex positive side of things, I do notice one thing about men and women that supports a less promiscuous society being good for less attractive people. We don’t like to date down from where we once dated. I don’t even notice women that I used to drool over. With more exposure to sex, I have slept with more and more attractive women simply due to the numbers game. Each time I do, my standards go up, and it takes longer to find the next partner because I don’t like…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 01:19 PM
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You are right. I don’t value all of my time. I set aside some of it to waste. Like I am right now typing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 09:34 PM
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There are for sure more people raped and killed than there are fake rape claims. But I also subscribe to the idea that it is best to let more guilty people walk free than wrongfully condemn a single person. Being that you can convict someone of rape without any evidence in thirty six states meets my criteria for a witch hunt. From this story: https://www.google.dk/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/152305/who-to-believe-sexual-assault Police searched Afshar’s (the accused) office, computer, and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 09:31 PM
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You obviously don’t value your own time if you took the time to write that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 07:46 PM
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Good point, I am mixing up discovery with cross-examination I stand behind that in some cases, cross examining the victims about their sexual past might be helpful in preventing innocent people from being convicted of a crime they didn’t commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 07:06 PM
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True but how do you discover such evidence if you can’t cross examine the victim’s sexual past?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 06:24 PM
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It can be both. It can simultaneously be true that we don’t send enough guilty rapists to prison and we also send too many innocent people to prison for rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 06:02 PM
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They would be for a crime that usually has no evidence. But that doesn’t mean the answer is to lower the bar for conviction and send more innocent people to prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 06:01 PM
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Yes I believe that it is hard to prove, due to the nature of the crime. Also low conviction rates doesn’t necessarily mean that they aren’t sending more innocent people to prison than for other crimes. Both can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:58 PM
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That is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:51 PM
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You are right, I am not talking in legalese.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:50 PM
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Your analogy isn’t fully relevant. I mean it is kind of relevant if you are taking in generalities, but I can think of lots of more specific cases where past sexual behavior of others would be relevant. For example, if the only physical evidence of a rape was a black and blue butt, and during cross examination it comes out for her last 5 boyfriends, one of which she is still having sex with, that she always requests to include very rough butt spanking in their sex, I would say it isn’t a reach t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:49 PM
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The wiki says that they prevent cross examining the victim about past sexual behavior. Not cross examining them about anything at all. It seems to me that past sexual behavior would be super relevant in many cases especially when no evidence exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 04:28 PM
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How do they find out if there is relevant evidence if you can’t cross examine rape complainants? Maybe there is something I don’t understand. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_shield_law I also understand the desire to overcompensate. But the fact that you can actually find someone guilty of a serious crime like you can in 36 states is kind of shocking to me, and not at all surprising that many people convicted would be innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:58 PM
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A post not worth reading is a post not worth commenting on. Here is some food for thought: “Today, 36 states and the federal government do not require corroborating evidence for a conviction of sexual assault.” Read here to see how that plays out in practice: https://www.google.dk/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/152305/who-to-believe-sexual-assault
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 03:00 PM
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The stat is in the article. You are misreading it a bit. See the article for the full context. I agree that irrelevant behavior should not be admissible, but many states do not permit any evidence relating to the past sexual behavior of the victim. In many cases I would imagine the past sexual behavior would be extremely relevant, especially given the already extremely sparse evidence these cases already have. Such as the hypothetical case I mentioned above.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:56 PM
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Yes, most people think that. But in practice it works a bit differently. “Today, 36 states and the federal government do not require corroborating evidence for a conviction of sexual assault.” A conviction of pretty much the most serious crime we have on the books doesn’t require any evidence to prosecute. Let that sink in. That quote and much more are in this article. https://www.google.dk/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/152305/who-to-believe-sexual-assault More in this article: https://www.a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 02:48 PM
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I wasn’t saying I wanted anything specific. I am just saying how the world is. Interesting. I thought you had to prove guilt of a person beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict them of a crime? Does this now apply to rape convictions? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t: according to the below article, post-conviction DNA testing of 422 convictions for sex crimes, subsequent forensic testing was inculpatory — supporting guilt — in only 187 cases, or 44 percent. That means that 56 p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 11:24 AM
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I mean it is common knowledge. I know it is anecdotal but I have a family member in prison for a sex crime and I have read his letters. But otherwise if you want to read what other people have to say about it read this: https://www.google.dk/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article233794677.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 10:53 AM
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I don’t consider legal standards very pertinent at all. Because rape isn’t something the legal system handles well. Most rape cases don’t even get handled by the justice system, and I am willing to bet that most rapes that do don’t get convicted. Because the legal standard of proof for crimes is so high that a subjective crime to which there are usually only two witnesses both with a conflict of interest in the case, and almost no other useful evidence, rarely will be able to meet that standard.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:50 PM
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Totally wrong under criminal law, but consent has more than just its legally construed definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 07:32 PM
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Well I totally agree with you that getting raped while you are drunk is a totally different thing than driving drunk. The act I referring to being a double standard is not getting raped, but the act of giving consent. Some people don’t believe drunk consent is real consent. And it is a continuum of drunkenness so there is no one point where you can pinpoint that consent becomes invalid, because drunkenness is also subjective and really only known by the drunk person themselves. So some people ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:13 PM
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Yes I also find it weird that sex is the only thing you aren’t responsible for if you are drunk. But of course being drunk is no excuse for raping someone. Not that it should be to be clear, but it shows the double standard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 01:04 PM
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To be fair, I am also a bit unclear on consent these days. I have heard so many ridiculous things about consent lately. I watched that Harvey Weinstein video where he gets real inappropriate with that sales lady. Although it was a textbook example of getting consent, it was still pretty cringy. Then there is the whole drinking thing. Who decides who rapes who if a man and a woman meet at a bar and go home both drunk and have sex that they both would not have consented to if they were sober?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:51 PM
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I saw an article about a man who had a wife whose cognitive abilities kept deteriorating. The government decided that she was not allowed to have sex. Feminists generally took this as “he is not allowed to take advantage of his wife” but I took is as the government is telling an adult woman that she isn’t allowed to have sex because she doesn’t understand consent. I looked at her and wondered how I would feel if the government were telling me I couldn’t have sex because I wasn’t smart enough. Se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:59 AM
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Yes. For men. Harder for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 07:15 PM
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I lived in Europe for about 6 years. In the country I lived in, both parents work full time, and SAHMs are extremely rare compared to USA. There I know a mother who worked demanding high-end tech sales jobs, took an MBA, and raised a newborn all at the same time (and did a fine job as raising the child) another who raised three very young kids from a shipping container while she helped her full time working husband build their house. Child rearing is not a full time job. If you ask my sister who…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 01:06 PM
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My mother is physically abusive towards my dad. She is bigger and healthier and stronger than him, so she overpowers him and beats him. He is small and has a history of being abused in his childhood. He has told us that if any mysterious death happens to him, to treat it as homicide until proven otherwise. And she is also full on mentally abusive. And she physically abused all of her children. I don’t know where we got this idea that women aren’t capable of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 10:57 AM
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I am married. And I take time to do things for myself. That she doesn’t enjoy. Road trips alone on my motorcycle, backcountry trips with friends. I travel a lot for business... having my own identity and life is important to me. If you only do things you agree on, you will end up doing lowest common denominator stuff that really isn’t all that interesting. Whenever I plan a trip somewhere alone, people get so surprised I am traveling alone or without my wife. They say “you are allowed to do that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:54 PM
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To bag a rich man you have to have a lot to offer yourself. Contrary to popular belief, marrying up or hypergamy doesn’t happen a lot. Yes it happens, but the data shows it happens pretty rarely. Rich people find themselves in different social circles and they have their own culture. The only way to learn this culture is to spend a lot of time in it. So it is a bit of a chicken or egg problem. Marrying up will come with culture shock. Everything will be dazzling at first. Then you will miss your…
/r/RedPillWomen23/09/19 01:44 PM
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What is that saying? A key that can open any lock is a really impressive key. A lock that can be opened by any key is a shitty lock. Now ideally there shouldn’t be any gender that is the lock and another that is the key. But the reality is that women don’t do much pursuing. There is lots of tinder data on swiping habits by gender for skeptical autists and people who don’t leave their houses and forgot about this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:46 PM
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This is the reason I didn’t want to have kids. Just owning a house seems to take every spare moment I have if I want to take care of things. I had a really adventurous young adulthood. I looked at people with 9-5s and families, and saw the lack of vitality in their spirit and bodies, and decided it wasn’t for me whatever they are doing. I own an older house, and it keeps me busy, but I still have time to take trips, sit by a fire and do nothing, pursue personal goals and hobbies. But finding tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 11:49 AM
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I don’t think that RP men are referring to those oppressive societies. When they say “a woman would rather share a high value man than settle for a low value man” that quote is meant to be taken within the context of modern western society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 10:39 PM
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Well to be fair, the way your sister was treated is the way pretty much all men are treated anyways. Of course if you are used to privilege, then being treated like every one else is treated seems horrible. I get that. But both genders have certain groups of them that get all the privileges. For men it is wealth and power-and sometimes even that isn’t enough-look at Mark Zuckerberg’s wife for example. She is about as good looking as he is, and he is one of the world’s most influential billionair…
/r/RedPillWomen22/09/19 03:54 PM
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Depends on how far you go back. The farther back you go, the more humanity was subject to nature. Back then, given the constraints of biology and what childbirth/reading meant for a woman, husbandry was probably in women’s favor. As hospitals, breast pumpers, birth control, a declining birth rate, became a thing and machines started doing most of the heavy lifting and physical strength became less important in labor, it probably wasn’t in most women’s interest. But dependence isn’t objectively b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 12:49 PM
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And this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 06:47 PM
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The only thing that is a bigger waste of time than Instagram is this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 04:50 PM
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Yes. As long as she is asking because she is actually into it, and not some way to “teach me a lesson” or “even the score”. That is a toxic dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 01:11 PM
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This theory makes sense to a guy who hasn’t had a lot of anal with women, but in my experience, women love anal once they learn how to do it without pain. It is the form of sex that is most likely to end in an Orgasm for almost every woman I have been with. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gender-orgasm-gap/amp/ This article isn’t about that, but check out the chart “how come” it shows that the sex act that is most likely to end in orgasm for women is receptive anal.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 12:47 PM
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What is the context here? Generally, I can’t think of anything bad that would happen if a woman assumed I wanted sex when I don’t. The worst that would happen would be some unwanted penis touching or something which generally doesn’t bother me in the least even when I am not attracted to the woman. I don’t think most men get that “violated” feeling that woman do which makes it wrong to grope. At the worst I consider unwanted groping to be a mild annoyance, about as bad as meeting that huggy pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:30 AM
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My ass isn’t sore after deadlifts. You must have weak glutes.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/19 07:06 PM
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Seems like a waste of time to do all those extra exercises. As long as my main lifts keep going up, I keep gaining muscle. And I track my measurements every month. When that stops happening, I may consider adding something to strengthen my grip. But it isn’t weak enough to not add more weight on the DL yet, and none of the other things are so weak that I can’t make progress on any of the other lifts yet without extra exercises, and the scale keeps doing up. I will keep doing that as it only take…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/19 10:56 AM
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Lots of those things you mentioned are a waste of time, many aren’t. All I can say is I have tried A LOT of different routines over the decades, always following one program or another. Bro splits, bodybuilding, CrossFit, 5BX, Convict conditioning... and Stronglifts 5x5, and Texas Method was the only thing that added any noticeable amount of muscle-about 30 pounds a year over two years. It was a total game changer for me. And no my squat didn’t make it to 405 before my bench was under 225. When …
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/19 10:42 AM
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70 percent technical doesn’t automatically mean it isn’t a great mass builder. You hardly see great deadlifters who are not massive. Long arms help but most great deadlifters are pretty big. Also, lifting with bad form can still get you jacked. It makes the same weight harder to move. Your muscles don’t care how heavy the weight is, only how hard they have to work to move it. If you are moving it with bad form, they will have to adapt to move heavier weight. As log as it isn’t dangerous form, wh…
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/19 12:50 AM
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Don’t know about you, but I don’t feel leg presses in my entire back, forearms, biceps, lats, traps, abs, and neck like a do a deadlift. That “something in your hands” is actually quite a radical change to the movement in terms of pretty much every intent and purpose of the lift.
/r/MarriedRedPill06/09/19 12:44 AM
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Yes in many ways men and women are yin and yang. Part of it is self-perpetuating, and part of it is innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 06:10 PM
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May I ask what social class you are from and what social class most of the men are from? I think men of higher socio-economic standing are probably more likely to use BC. I can think of once ever I had sex without using some form of BC. And that was because my partner somehow took the condom off without letting me know. As soon as I realized it I pulled out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 10:24 AM
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Chores are not a big deal. If you hate them more than you hate what happens if you don’t do them, don’t do them. If you prefer what happens when you do the chores, do that! When I live alone, I leave a very clean tidy slick, yet very chore-life lifestyle. My SO prefers a more complicated and more materialistic lifestyle, which comes with more chores. She complains about the chores, but also asks for more chore-creating things, like pets, vehicles, gardens, etc. If you want those things, then don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 09:31 PM
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You do need to sleep with someone to know if you are sexually compatible. I have made that mistake before-not sleeping with someone enough times before I committed. It is a horrible mistake. A frank discussion will not do. People are shy talking about sex, it is incredibly difficult to put sex (esp good sex) into words. It sounds stupid when you do unless you are especially good at dirty talk. Also people want different things with different people. For some people, it is useless to tell someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 11:19 AM
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You basically put yourself in prison of your own making because you are scared of what being “cucked” will make you feel. Maybe those feelings are insecurity about your masculinity. Maybe not. But worth considering if that is the real reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 02:10 PM
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Why not wait until breakfast to bring it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 12:53 PM
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Why wouldn’t anyone want to fuck someone new? That sounds great? Why are you so scared of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 11:30 AM
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Who use that sentence to wake someone up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 11:29 AM
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Well you can’t just ignore it because there are some fundamental differences between rape and most crimes. Most crimes have objectively measurable and independently verifiable ways of verifying that they have been broken. Theft for example is easy because they can catch you with the stolen goods in your possession. Lots of things are wrong and illegal. I would say most, but not all things that are illegal are also morally wrong. But not all things that are wrong are illegal because the purpose o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 08:42 PM
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Legal doesn’t mean right. Something can be legal and still wrong. Lots of things are. Emotional abuse is one of those things. I think rape is more akin to emotional abuse than murder in most cases. And something being illegal doesn’t mean that someone can’t do it. Meth isn’t legal but people do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:32 PM
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Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:18 PM
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Is it though? Do you think it does net good? The whole process is almost as traumatic to the victim as the actual rape. And it is almost never successful anyways. Can’t help but think that, symbolism aside, it might do more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:14 PM
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Nope, I don’t think it should be right to have sex with someone who is passed out (unless you have discussed that prior) I think you are misunderstanding: I don’t mean that ALL victims can’t make up their minds if they consented or not, but I have read some personal accounts on reddit of people wondering if they consented or not. Not sure why it would follow logically from that observation that we should all be allowed to rape each other. Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:12 PM
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1: valid point but it is more of a symbolic gesture than a practical tool. Yes I agree, it may be easy to write down, but hard to apply in practice. So you say it is simple: yes means yes. So do you think that by all rights, all the women who I have had sex with deserve to be in prison and on a sex offender list because they didn’t get a verbal yes from me? I certainly don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:08 PM
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I didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:04 PM
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The benefits of going to the gym and changing your body are hard to underestimate. The only way to fully appreciate how big a difference it makes is to get fit yourself. Yes there are diminishing returns that probably even go negative when you are presenting as a bodybuilding bro with the tan, the tap out shirt, and the over-groomed body, but speaking as a guy who went from being skinny-fat, to a guy more muscular than 90 percent of men in my age group, I can tell you that for me it works like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:09 PM
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What is the matter? Did an internet comment trigger you enough to go into my profile? Such alpha, very not give a fuck.
/r/askMRP28/06/19 12:22 PM
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My solution is to get snipped.
/r/askMRP28/06/19 10:10 AM
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That may work for women with a CNC fetish, but for rape fetishists, any sort of pre-agreement really won’t do it for them. If you would like to learn more about the distinctions between rape kink and CNC kink, check out r/rapekink, where they welcome people with both fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 06:50 PM
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No, they aren’t. Ok then. Let’s take another analogy that fits your preferred frequency. I have a nice motorcycle. If I could choose any one in the world, I just might choose this one. However. I still drool over other motorcycles I see on the street, test drive motorcycles, rubberneck at nice ones I see on the street. Just because I chose to own a cruiser one doesn’t mean I don’t get excited about novel experiences of driving fast ones. Just because I chose a new reliable one doesn’t mean I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:54 PM
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What? That is like saying because you have a nice car, you wouldn’t like to go to a car show. Just because you have something nice doesn’t mean you don’t appreciate other nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:49 AM
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Yes agree, but the problem is the women being out of shape and not DTF, not porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:58 AM
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Not for me. I masturbate about once per month. Rest of the time, I watch porn, then go have sex with my wife, why would I want my hand when I have a hot DTF wife? If my wife wasn’t GGG and had a long list of things she doesn’t do in bed, then ya, I might jerk it to porn more often. But the reason wouldn’t be because porn is too good, it really doesn’t take much to compete with a flat screen. Developing one of two skills, deepthroat or anal would keep 90 percent of guys happy I feel. Not super ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:47 AM
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Yes they SAY on DB sub that it is porn, but I made a post over there that was pretty popular that there is a double standard when it comes to the blame for DB. If the man is LL, all the top most popular explanations are: he is a closet homosexual, he is addicted to porn, he has low t... notice the trend in the most popular narratives: none of it is her fault. Go over to RP, and the explanations for why your wife won’t fuck you are: you are a fat, weak, lazy, pushover, no wonder your wife won’t f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:11 PM
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There are loads of potential reasons. She likes the attention, not necessarily you. She actually can’t and has stuff on the go. She is nervous, and doesn’t have the balls to actually go on the date because she likes you. She doesn’t want to seem too eager to you for fear of being judged. She is subconsciously testing to see if you want her enough to persist in spite of being told no, to stroke her ego. This last point is controversial because for some girls, no means no. For women who are assert…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 11:58 PM
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If you go to the rapekink subreddit, you will see that there is an FAQ on how to bait a rape. And people will post field reports of successful and unsuccessful rape baits, and swap tips on how to best bait a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:43 PM
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Also I would add that basically none of the rules for consent are applied to women. I have never given consent to a woman in my life. Because women rarely ask for consent. We learn from that. Also. There is a very common kink (so common I think we can reasonably call it vanilla) called a rape kink. Women who want you to continue after you have been told no. If they told you they wanted this it would ruin the experience for them. For a more extreme version of this, Look up “rape baiting” it is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:21 AM
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The problem is, she has a rape kink. CNC play does close to nothing for her. That sort of kink is impossible to satisfy through direct communication. If she asks for it, than that by definition ruins the experience for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 11:32 PM
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Totally. And it is a huge turn-off from me as well. I tried to explain this to my wife the other day. She said she was disappointed in me sexually for ending the play when it was clear she wasn’t digging it. I told her “look, you telling me you aren’t into it, verbally or non-verbally, isn’t at all a turn-on for me, that is why I stopped” but for her, my ability to stop the play on a dime was interpreted as evidence that I wasn’t aroused by her enough to be incapable of stopping. It was a bit to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 02:04 PM
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As an older guy who has been around the block, I can say that as a younger man, I fucked up a lot, bu taking every no as the stone-written literal truth. I disappointed a lot of women that way. Many of them would later tell me this. I even had this happen to me the other day with my wife. She told me “I am very disappointed in you sexually” because I stopped our play when I sensed she wasn’t into it. So to navigate your way through a few sexual scenarios as a man, you will often get these situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 11:44 AM
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There is no faster way to get to know each other than fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:13 PM
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I feel like variety is always a healthy thing. Variety in the gene pool leads to healthier living things. I feel like human behavior is the same. I feel that femininity and masculinity are in and yang. Femininity helps mitigate the more negative aspects of masculinity, and masculinity fills in voids in femininity, making fully integrated teams. If everyone behaves the same way, society would probably be over exposed to some sort of cultural weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:08 PM
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It isn’t a turn-off for me. If a we don’t have sex on the first date, I don’t consider the relationship to have long term potential. Either she has a low sex drivesince I don’t, wants to use me for something, or we don’t have that spark which for me is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for a marriage. The sexual compatibility is like wheels on a car, definitely not my favorite feature of the car, nor the only thing I care about in a car, but without those wheels, it isn’t a car worth hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 01:02 PM
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I feel like variety is always a healthy thing. Variety in the gene pool leads to healthier living things. I feel like human behavior is the same. I feel that femininity and masculinity are in and yang. Femininity helps mitigate the more negative aspects of masculinity, and masculinity fills in voids in femininity, making fully integrated teams. If everyone behaves the same way, society would probably be over exposed to some sort of cultural weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 10:38 AM
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If there were no gender roles and expectations, there would still almost certainly be differences in behavior between the sexes. Almost every mammal species has different behavior between the sexes, why would be believe humans are any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 10:25 AM
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Probably not true. Gay men fuck way more than gay women. And they fuck more than straight people. More different partners, and more sex within monogamous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 10:21 AM
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And how did society get the way it is, do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 10:19 AM
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RP works without the “fuk wimminz” part, but the body of knowledge self-selects for people who have been and have let themselves be used and abused by women. So that attitude runs rampant there. Just like feminism self-selects for people who have been and have let themselves be used and abused by men. If you have had a lot of bad experiences with the opposite sex, then of course you a narrative that overemphasizes the faults of the other gender and downplays your own role in that will speak to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 10:44 PM
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I am not saying that men shouldn’t put in the effort. They just shouldn’t put in the effort if she isn’t GGG in bed. And that is a good thing. It raises the bar for sexual performance. It means that men don’t have to settle for prudish duty sex. Men know better. And it seems like it works that way. They say the new generation is kinkier even if they are having less sex, the sex they are having seems to be better. But yes I agree, women will always find someone else to fuck them if you won’t, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 11:56 AM
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I think it really levels the sexual landscape playing field. Casual dating/sex is, gender-wise,one of the most unequal arenas of life. The famous tinder study concluded that the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men. That isn’t Incel bullshit, that is just reality on Tinder. Tinder has really tipped the sexual playing field in women’s direction, and slur shaming seems to be less and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:32 AM
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It IS, sometimes, used as a pejorative by gays mostly. Some gay bears use it in a derogatory way, but I have personally only heard it used by gay men as a neutral descriptor. And a self-identifier. The word is almost never used by straight people. I have a hard time picturing it as a homophobic word. It could be a “twinkophobic” word, if used pejoratively. One gay friend is really annoyed by twinks, but he is far from homophobic. Just doesn’t care for twinks. Loves gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 07:57 PM
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Oh. That word isn’t a slur. It is used by the gay community to describe a certain type of more feminine or boyish gay man. It is also used as a self-identifying term by twinks themselves to differentiate themselves from say, the opposite.”: a bear, a large hypermasculine hairy gay man. I have gay friends and I have never heard that word used as a slur. And I certainly didn’t intend for it to be interpreted as a slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 07:11 PM
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Would you be so kind as to point out which part of my comment is homophobic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 06:22 PM
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Yes it is sexy when an already hyper masculine man does a couple of feminine things. Which explains the obsession with the same type of guy having a tiny dog. But if a Twink did the same things, you would consider those things to be another one of his feminine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 01:08 PM
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Yes. We know it is staged. Porn is filmed from all kinds of perspectives, but the male perspective is probably most popular because porn is more popular with men than women. Male view point is not unrealistic, it is how every man has sex, from his own perspective. It makes sense that the porn they watch would be from the same perspective. That would be the most realistic to them. Women fake orgasms in real life to. Totally realistic. The fact they do means that men actually do care about women’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 03:31 PM
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There are a lot of similarities yes I often mention this. One is that partners are often feel threatened by its use even though they can both be used an an enhancement to couples play, instead of a replacement, if the partner can grow up and be cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 10:16 AM
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What is unrealistic about it? Are they real women on pornhub? Yes unless we are talking about cartoon porn which I don’t think we are. If it is real women, then it is realistic. You might argue that the average porn star rising to the top of the google result is hotter than the average girl IRL, (still real though), but porn is made of every body type imaginable. It just so happens that given the choice, people tend to want to watch hot people have sex, so the hot people porn becomes the most po…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 10:07 AM
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I guess you work of an assumption that the only women other than this one hypothetical wife that would be willing to fuck you are prostitutes then? That’s wrong. Most guys are able to find other sexual partners if they try as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 11:07 AM
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You forgot to subtract a few things. Like the sex that the husband gives her as well as the chores he does for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 12:42 AM
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There really isn’t a such thing as double standards in heterosexual dating because the playing field is so different for each sex, it hardly makes sense to apply the same rules to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 10:24 PM
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How do you know men created those things? Are you sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 10:26 PM
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That in combination with women’s choosiness. Both genders are to blame, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 02:45 PM
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Lol true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 07:02 PM
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It is totally acceptable to not want to fuck another person for any reason you want. Problem is when people are scared to fuck consenting people they also want to fuck because they have been taught rediculous ideas about consent. Half the people they aim to protect and up getting hurt by the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 07:01 PM
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Hard to say where that blurry line would be drawn in court. Probably not. But maybe. I am more interested in what happens every day than what happens in courts. And this happened. And it is really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:39 PM
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It is more stuff like this I am worried about: https://reddit.app.link/cvUhmYc1nW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 10:37 AM
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Yes grey areas. People are already getting the wrong ideas. This is what I was worried about: https://reddit.app.link/cvUhmYc1nW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 10:36 AM
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I am more worried about situations like this: https://reddit.app.link/cvUhmYc1nW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 10:32 AM
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It is more this kind of thing I am worried about. https://reddit.app.link/cvUhmYc1nW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 10:31 AM
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It is more stuff like this I am worried about. https://reddit.app.link/cvUhmYc1nW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 10:30 AM
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This is the kind of stuff I am more worried about. https://reddit.app.link/cvUhmYc1nW
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 10:27 AM
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No I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 12:35 AM
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Ah yes, do things without being asked. The old mind reading demand. My personal favorite. Ensures they always have something to complain about no matter how good you are to them. Ensures a bottomless fountain of dispute.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 11:42 PM
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You didn’t mention that if you go to R/deadbedrooms you will see 50 percent of the posters are women complaining their husbands won’t fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 11:33 PM
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You are “Getting” sex? How generous of her...
/r/askMRP01/05/19 10:53 PM
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Hers isn’t super specific. We talked about her rape fantasy in the past. I will ask for specifics and she will be like “well whatever you want, otherwise it wouldn’t be a real rape fantasy, it would just be you doing what I told you to do!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 12:57 PM
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She did tell me about her rape fantasy but every time I tried to initiate it as a thing, with safewords and stuff the way you are supposed to, she would be like, this feels too fake, just do it and you will know if I am enjoying myself or not. Turns out I can tell the difference between her enjoying it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 12:55 PM
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She did tell me she has a rape fantasy actually. But then when I go to set it up, she will get uncomfortable and say it feels too fake. We also had this relationship where I friendzoned myself years back. I made my feeling clear to her back then, but didn’t get anything reciprocated. I later asked her why. And her answer was “if you had just taken me you could have had me. You weren’t aggressive enough”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 12:46 PM
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Just saying, I live authentically and I have come across plenty of women like that. Have you even tried to just be honest and open about what you want? The results shocked me. But I also got buff so there is that. You are probably right that dating is a no win if you aren’t hot. Lie and people will say they don’t want to be with you because you are a liar. Don’t lie, and people will tell you they aren’t looking for what you are looking for. The truth is they are just trying to find an excuse to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:02 PM
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You are probably right, most platers are shifty liars. But that isn’t red pill. Red pill is all about living on your own terms. If you lie to people, then you are usually operating from within their frame or at least what you think their frame is. That is why you lie to them. To try to pretend to be who you think they want you to be. I guarantee you that if you start living authentically, you will find that more people will also start presenting their authentic selves to you as well. Due to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:17 PM
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I don’t think that is true. I was reading a study of tinder swipes that showed that men, although much more generous with their right swipes, tend to all swipe on more of the same women. And women, although much more choosy, didn’t all agree on who was the hottest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 03:07 PM
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Certainly not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:48 PM
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It depends on who you want to attract. If wouldn’t work with me, because I would take it as a red flag of a potential future dead bedroom. I would think, either she is low libido, or she isn’t that sexually attracted to me in particular. If she wants to keep seeing me, it must be because she wants to use me for something. I am not interested in that. Also who thinks that someone who is horny ONLY wants sex. People have this weird idea that if you are enthusiastic about sex, that means that is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:23 PM
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I am in an LTR and have regular sex (I don’t like your frame of “getting” sex. It isn’t something someone “gives” to you. That wording comes from a frame of unworthiness. It is something you give yourself, or that you simply have together with someone else as a shared activity.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:15 PM
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A few things: I don’t think it is meant to be a strategy to secure an LTR. For the people who do it, it is not a means to an end, it is the end itself. You shouldn’t have to sneak and lie when you are living on your terms which is the whole point of spinning plates. Nobody likes shifty liars, but plenty of people don’t mind if you aren’t exclusive with them. Maybe they won’t tell you that straight up, but like the emporer’s new clothes teaches us, if you are honest, and not tell people what you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:10 PM
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That is the knee jerk reaction I had. Then I thought, wait, how would I feel if I were in her shoes? What is the worst thing that could go wrong? Let’s say I told her she could give me a blowjob any time she wanted. Now could I conceivably think of a time that I wouldn’t want a blowjob? Sure. And how would I feel if she gave me one anyways because I previously told her about my kink? Probably flattered, but mildly annoyed. Really that is the worst that could happen if she thinks anything like me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:53 AM
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Who on earth said only sex makes people happy? Other things can make you happpy as well. There isn’t a limit on happiness. You can have all kinds of things going for you in life that make you happy, and sex can still make you happier. And it isn’t only about happiness. People who have sex live longer. I put things that increase your lifespan in the catagory of a need. I need to exercise for example. I might not die tomorrow if I don’t, but at some point, me not exercising is pretty likely to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:31 PM
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I would say the need to be happy is a need. Happiness is correlated to lifespan. Some people find sex makes them happier, some don’t. If people say it is a need FOR THEM, then it is a need, for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 12:46 PM
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I didn’t say subconscious kinks deliberately set aside will rule your marriage. Do you mean “ruin”? I didn’t say that either. But what I do think about it is that I personally wouldn’t want to be with someone who didn’t want to explore my kinks with me. Some of my kinks have surfaced, I am sure more will as we continue to sexually mature. Some of them are shared by my wife, some are not. But I am willing to indulge any kink my wife has, even if I don’t share that kink. And I wouldn’t be prepared…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 12:42 PM
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There are many powerful reasons for not being able to divorce. If you have to decide between having contact with your kids and divorce, for example. Or if you have to decide between being able to afford rent, and divorce, or if you have to decide between being excommunicated by your community (like in conservative Bible Belt communities).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 11:22 AM
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People often can’t afford divorce, or would stand to lose their own children. Or would be shunned by their communities (in the Bible Belt for instance).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 11:00 AM
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People have a mental bias that neglectful behavior is somehow less bad than active abuse. It isn’t. For example: People can leave a dog chained to their back yard for years and just neglect it. The neighbors likely won’t say a thing. But if a person feeds their dog, walks them every day, takes them to the vet, plays fetch...but one day kicks his dog in a fit of rage, you can bet there will be outrage if people see it. But they are both equally reprehensible behaviors in my books. It is like Esth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:54 AM
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Sexual neglect plus enforced monogamy equals abuse. Nobody gets to unilaterally decide that another person doesn’t get to have a sex life. And before people say “just leave then” people often can’t leave for the same reasons people in rapes or violent situations can’t leave. My wife and I explicitly agreed with one another that sexual neglect on either of our parts nulls our monogamy contract. This was after marriage we agreed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:43 AM
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That is why I say that sexual neglect, when combined with compelled monogamy, is abuse. One or the other isn’t abuse, but nobody gets to decide that another person doesn’t get to decide to deprive another human being of any chance of a sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:15 AM
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What is your criteria for need?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:12 AM
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Even virgins aren’t blank slates. They say kinks form when you are a child before you are even aware of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:08 AM
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The victim of the infidelity isn’t always the victim of the relationship. Some people understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 09:55 AM
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Sorry, I only do that for my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 12:48 AM
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Ok lol, you had me convinced he was a douche when you said “bodybuilding” and “posted his workouts to Instagram” I think either one of those two would be enough for a clinical diagnosis of narcissism. I am guessing you aren’t the only one he isn’t compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 12:47 AM
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How would you define a need? Something that you will die if you don’t get? Seems simple, food, sleep, water, right? But how long would you live with only these things in a concrete box with no company. Not as long as otherwise, right? So there must be some other needs, right? What are those, and what are your criteria for including or not including them in the list?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:13 PM
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IMO 24 year old boys are about as mature as 19 year old girls. 28 percent of men under 30 don’t have sex. Compared to only 18 percent of women. For 24 year oldboys, I would assume that number would be higher. Probably between 50 and 75 percent. So despite what your impressions of him you may have had, or what you heard about him, he probably wasn’t much more experienced than you. Here is a link explaining what I mean by “mature faster” http://healthland.time.com/2013/12/19/why-girls-brains-matur…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:08 PM
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No, read my last paragraph. It is a need, but it doesn’t mean you are entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:38 PM
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Thank, Tips. And yes, taking the weights off someone else’s bar after being told no is weird. And so is not letting someone work in when you are just starting your first set. Wierd or not, I am not skipping squats, and I won’t allow anyone to hog the power racks in a free eights only gym. I will deal with them myself. Like you said, I am a man with shit to do. I have no time for horseshit behavior from grown people, male or female. Sorry that I am not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:36 PM
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No sexual affectionate touch does confuse us. Absolutely. Which is why nobody touches us generally unless they probably want to have sex with us. Usually. Which makes it more confusing when we are touched and someone doesn’t want to have sex with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:24 PM
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Who feels they are entitled to that? Certainly a small minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:20 PM
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There is a lot of human needs you won’t die without. You can survive in solitary confinement in a cement cube for years with only food and water. You probably wouldn’t be very healthy, and would likely die earlier than if you led a normal life, but you would survive a while. Sex does have physical and mental health benefits. And those benefits are not fully realized with masturbation alone. At what point does something become a need? Is exercise a need? Is a healthy diet a need? I mean what besi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:19 PM
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Yes I keep telling her that. She doesn’t want one. In her words “I will know”. And I would know actuallly if she isn’t enjoying herself so she has a point. On point 2, how old were you and him? Not that it makes it any less cringy for you, but that sounds like a young confused guy who doesn’t even know what a kiss is supposed to feel like. I bet he is just as scarred as you are from that! See I believe most men have the best intentions in mind and still fuck up. We don’t get any education about …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:49 AM
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I suppose if we flip the script, I can’t really imagine how bad it could get if she genuinely misinterpreted my real no for a “ravish me” no. I would probably at worst be mildly annoyed. I suppose the stakes aren’t super high if she thinks anything like I do. But people are super sensitive about this. People are saying “it is so dangerous what she is doing because what if you can’t distinguish a real no for a play no later on and have no safe word!?” First of all I think I can tell when she is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 10:16 AM
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Oh wow I just read the link. It really didn’t offer any specific evidence for why women are supposedly just as horny as men. Last time I had this debate I really looked into it. Here is what I found out. Men masturbate more than women Men buy and have bought almost all of the sexual services worldwide across cultures and time. Swinger clubs have to cap the entrance of men on singles nights but let women in for free. The majority of porn is consumed by men. The imbalance on dating sites is huge. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 11:22 PM
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Interesting thanks for sharing. I had no idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:30 PM
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I don’t call mommy and daddy when I have disputes. I deal with them peer to peer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:30 PM
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True. The safe thing to do is to take every no literally. But like any of the safest solutions, we comprimise fun. Convertibles are more fun than hard tops. Motorcycles are more fun than convertibles. Racing is more fun than obeying the speed limit... etc. If you confide in someone that you have a rape fantasy, then you have probably done that risk/reward calculation in your head. Like giving a key to a neighbor. Yes you might regret it later down the road, but you are probably far more likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:29 PM
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For sure it has to do with how society conditions men and women to communicate. Neither one is right or wrong, they are just different so when we try to have interactions, misunderstandings happen. I prefer direct honest communication, but playful incongruency can also be fun, and allow for possibilities that wouldn’t be possible with direct honest communication. If I were to guess what is going through her mind, it would be something like this: “I want him to be so connected to me, so sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:21 PM
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I totally agree. It should be that way. And not all women communicate like this, but all men have been subjected to this type of commmunication before. And for me it took three years of knowing my wife and struggling to get her to communicate her fantasies to me. Knowing she had a rape fantasy helped. Also knowing she really hates the safe word approach helped me figure this out. I tried that, she said it felt too fake. Knowing her body language and her trusting me completely not to hurt her als…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:28 PM
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Well first of all they shouldn’t break powerlifting etiquette and make a fuss about someone working in. But I don’t expect everyone to understand that part. And I totally agree this is a huge shame for women who communicate clearly. You are one of those and I feel for you. It is also a huge shame for men, who have a harder times differentiating between when no means “ravish me” and when it means “no” than women. I guess your argument is somewhat like the “not all men” argument. I would counter t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:18 PM
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I am not sure entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:09 PM
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Women seek help more often than men. The demographics of people seeking help for things does not equal the demographics of people suffering of the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:07 PM
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Tried that, she wants nothing to do with a safe word. She thinks it ruins the authenticity. And yes you aren’t my wife. I agree not all women do it this way, but probably all men have experienced at least one case of this which conditions them to behave certain ways. Just something to keep in mind next time you wonder why a guy can’t take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:05 PM
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It is a bomb with regard to the “no means no” movement. And this isn’t the first time this has happened to me either. My wife has even said the words “no doesn’t mean no, you know” when I have said I was frustrated about being shut down for sex too much. That is controversial. Because if women tell us this or behave like that, how can we take the “no means no” movement literally? I mean, I am sure with those specific women who say that, nonprobably means no, but how are men who are conditioned t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:00 PM
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But I actually am borderline autistic. And it is incurable. That is like telling someone “don’t be old if you don’t want to get sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:46 PM
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I am a powerlifter. And I have never said no to anyone asking to work in. Rest time on squats in powerlifting is 5 mins and up. Why would I say no? Especially in a gym with only two squat racks and I am just starting. If you tell a powerlifter they can’t squat for an hour you are telling them they can’t work out today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:41 PM
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You are right. They aren’t synonymous. What they have in common, however, is that sometimes women like to say no to men just for the sake of it. In powerlifting, there is no substitute for the squat, and you need to do it in a power rack. There is a reason I gained 40 pounds of muscle in just over a year with this program, which is the first program I have followed religiously for over a year that has changed my body in any significant way: and that is consistency, and probably squats. I do the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:33 PM
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I have tried. Like I say, I don’t like it this way, and I have pushed for the whole clear contract thing including safe words for a long time. It didn’t get anywhere, and it made me feel bad that I could never seem to please her, which in turn left her unenthusiastic about sex, which led to me being unsatisfied with the frequency and intensity of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:41 PM
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It is true. Not all women do this, but all men have been subject to this kind of communication from women. That might help explain why women who actually mean what they say have issues sometimes. Also the first time she told me she had a rape fantasy, way back, I told her we could try with a safe word. She told me she didn’t like the idea because she felt it would ruin the authenticity of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:17 PM
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Yes, not all women do this, but all men have experienced this doublespeak from women with regards to sexuality or romance at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:06 PM
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Agree, not all women do this, but I am pretty sure that all men have experienced it at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:03 PM
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Yes correct, not all women do this, but I am pretty confident that all men have experienced this behavior at some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 01:01 PM
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She did mention she had a rape fetish to me before.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:58 PM
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She did mention to me before that she had a rape fantasy that she didn’t want to carry out the “safe way” with safe words because she felt it ruined the immersion of the experience. So I had a hunch, but she made it known it was on me to make it happen, that she would never ask be because the act of her asking me would ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:56 PM
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Well it isn’t rape if that is what she wants to happen, is it? Also, to fill you in on more details that are relevant to your comment, she did mention a rape fantasy to me early on, but then said “it is the kind of thing that only works in my head, I wouldn’t want to actually play it out” I see lots of mentions of “safe words” i told her we would need one, she said, don’t be silly, just do what you want, and you will know if you are crossing a boundary” and she was right, I was able to tell from…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:50 PM
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No, only the women who do this. Apparently she isn’t the only one. Other people report the same issues. And looking back on my life, my wife wasn’t the only one I was with either that did this in one form or another. https://youtu.be/NXpFtwYIKew It is kind of like the feminist response to “not all men” is “yes all women” as in yes, all women have been exposed to this behavior from some men. My response to this is. “Yes, not all women do this, but probably also, yes all men have experienced this …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:43 PM
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So I take it you aren’t a proponent of the “enthusiastic consent” concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:38 PM
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Is it more likely that a woman would wonder what she missed by not being promiscuous if she marries the first man she sleeps with? I don’t know about you but the more people I slept with, the less sleeping with another one mattered to me. Also, where do you live? In most places I have been, virginity was not on men’s shopping list for LTRs. Reasonable N counts maybe but never heard a man openly admit he wanted his wife to be a virgin. In Incel/MGTOW circles or maybe in the Bible Belt or Utah may…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:59 PM
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I don’t spend all of my free time on this sub, so I wouldn’t know. I imagine there are others that also don’t so doesn’t hurt for them to see. But I am not sure I understand the distinction. If you want something, and it is easy to get, and you don’t actually have it or do it, then you probably didn’t actually want it that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 02:51 PM
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If you enjoy the time you spend with your GF less than the time you spend at work, that first sentence makes sense. But then why not switch her out for someone you actually want to spend time with? There are fun people out there who add value to your life outside of sex you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:48 AM
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Interesting. I think the shape of t is probably mostly up to genetics because of bone structure and muscle insertions. But I thought for sure everyone who could lift heavy would have big butts. What do you squat and DL compared to your height and weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:45 AM
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Why is it super fucked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 11:21 PM
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Nobody is arguing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 11:19 PM
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With risks that outweigh your typical casual sex, and a cost most cannot afford on a regular basis. And maybe the hooker isn’t hard to get, but getting the money to spend on it certainly is plenty of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 11:14 PM
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Isn’t “difficult to get” pretty much the same thing as “valuable” for all intents and purposes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 09:25 PM
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It isn’t justified. Shaming rarely is. But it isn’t a double standard. It is shaming both genders for doing what comes easiest to them. It is unfair to anyone who experiences, but it isn’t more unfair to women than men. At least a woman can avoid those actions that bring on the shaming, or chose to care more about getting laid lots than being shamed. Men who are shamed for not getting any don’t really have any choice in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 08:36 PM
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They are just flip sides of the same coin. If one action is praised, the opposite is likely shamed, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 06:38 PM
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It doesn’t. However, it isn’t a double standard because men are shamed by their inability to get laid as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 04:30 PM
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So I understand from the last sentence that the difficulty of the feat does play into your own attitudes about promiscuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 04:28 PM
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So I take it you believe it is because the act is less risky for the man himself than it is for the woman herself? Could have something to do with it. But I have to take issue with the fact that society doesn’t praise self control and doing the hard thing. The easy thing to do generally is to sit idle and let things around you deteriorate and waste money, and live hedonistically taking every fleeting opportunity for pleasure that passes your face. That is for most seen as a shameful way to live.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 04:25 PM
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Less and less so, but there is still some of that, depending on where you live. And it is great that slut shaming is less of a thing. There should be less shaming of most types, except for harmful behaviors. However, to be fair, it is less of a double standard than you think it is. If it were equally as easy for men and women to find casual sex partners, it would be a double standard. However, find a friend of the opposite sex roughly equally as attractive as you. Swipe right on a hundred people…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 02:15 PM
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Pretty bold claim you have there. Kind of like those people who blame being fat on genetics. Yes genetics plays a role, but if you do something consistently for years, that will all but eclipse the genetic factor. The human body is extremely adaptable, but people don’t have the patience to wait for their habits to get results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 03:58 PM
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My wife and I have analversary. It is like a normal anniversary, but I fuck her in the ass. It is a nice play on words. But if you get off on other dudes fucking your wife, then you do you. Don’t let anyone else try to tell you what should and should not please you sexually. If it pleases you and it doesn’t hurt others, then do it. Don’t let the FOG, fear, obligation, or guilt stop you from going after what you want.
/r/askMRP19/04/19 11:01 AM
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I got there in 1 year starting from where I was and I skipped a lot of workouts and I just ate whatever I wanted. If your nutrition is dialed, I would say 2 years is very generous. Also not that I say 90 percent because I am talking about being built, not strong. You can be in the 1000 pound club and look quite average. Skinny fat guys like me had to take it past the 1000 pound club before I got comments from strangers about my muscles, asking if I lift, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 10:51 PM
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It is true, I have literally never heard a man mention them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:17 PM
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I got a big butt from squats and deadlifts and I had nothing to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:15 PM
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Spend two years following a solid routine and you will be more built than 90 percent of non gym goers even if you start skinny fat like I did. I started at 6 ft tall, 30 pct body fat and 145 lbs even though I was active. 1 year, three months later only, I am 25 pct BF, and 190 lbs. and I only spent three days a week MAX in the gym for 1-2 hours each visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 08:11 PM
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To be fair, children are fucking hard to raise properly. My wife and I are childless. But both work. If you properly take care of yourself and your things, like maintain healthy finances, exercise, take time for recreation, takentine for personal and professional development, give back to your community, then it is basically impossible to also properly raise a kid and give it a decent start in life. Which is why I don’t have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 05:55 PM
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No. Only to shitposters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:26 PM
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That isn’t how this works. You made a positive statement, it is up to you to prove why such a specific statement is right. Just because nobody can prove something isn’t wrong doesn’t mean what you said it is true. If I made the statement that there is a teacup orbiting jupiter, nobody could or would be able to prove me wrong, but that doesn’t mean I have a good reason to believe there is a teacup orbiting Jupiter nor does the lack of proof that there isn’t prove that there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:09 PM
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How do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 12:55 PM
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Nothing other than men are not trying to signal anything about the hotness of their wife by complaining how difficult they are. Nor are men who brag about the submissiveness of their wives trying to signal anything. Anyone who brags about how submissive people are to them publically tell me nothing except to be careful of them. They are probably an R Kelly type. If you brag about your wife being difficult it tells me that you are a spineless bitch who can’t stand up for yourself and be treated i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:17 AM
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Even for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:35 PM
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You are overthinking this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:17 PM
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There is a line for sure. And there is right and wrong, and we all know and feel it when we do it. But really wear is that line and should the government play a role there? If so, when? And there are so many what ifs. Like what if I give my wife full permission to have her way with me sexually if I ever enter a vegetative state. And I have done that because what if I can enjoy it on some level? That would be nice. She probably won’t because she could get caught for it, but in my mind that wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 08:31 PM
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Ahh I don’t think we should kill people just because they aren’t smart. There is more to life than being smart. My dogs aren’t smart but they have a good life. What a pity to waste that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 12:56 AM
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No one has the right to have sex with mentally disabled people. No one has the right to have sex with anyone. Period. That is a privilege. I am more worried that the government has the capability to take away my right to have sex if I become mentally disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 12:55 AM
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Of course there are clear lines. Although I am not certain about a vegetative state. I have given my wife explicit and full sexual permission with me should I ever go into a vegetative state. I feel that should be my right to choose at this point, but legally, that is not how consent works. And for me, that is a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 02:02 PM
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Underage I get. Because eventually he person will be able to make that call for themselves eventually. You aren’t stripping that freedom away forever. And what else would be appropriate to strip them of their right to make choices about? Are they allowed to drink? At what point would that right be taken away? I get that we need to protect the vulnerable, but the law is a blunt, unwieldy, autistic instrument. Do we really need to take this to the law? Especially when the husband agrees he shouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:55 PM
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I feel more for the woman. The man seems to not want to do it anyways, but people are missing the point that the government is taking away her right to have sex if her husband also wanted to. What if both of them had learning disabilities? How would that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 09:13 AM
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Just how low does your IQ have to be before you are unable to consent? Is IQ even a reasonable standard by which to determine this? If not, what is? One thing is the government protecting you from rape, but if that comes at the expense of your freedom to have sex ever again, would you even want that protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:51 AM
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Just how low does your IQ have to be before you are unable to consent? Is IQ even a reasonable standard by which to determine this? If not, what is? One thing is the government protecting you from rape, but if that comes at the expense of your freedom to have sex ever again, would you even want that protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:50 AM
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There is no right to have Sex with your wife. The question is more if the government has the right to take away your right to have sex if you have a learning disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:36 PM
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10000000 pct agree
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:33 PM
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I get it, she may be I able to consent, but the is also unable to consent to not have sex. Which also perhaps not best in her best interest. Who gets to decide?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 10:32 PM
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In a theoretical world where there are 10 guys and 10 girls, where everyone is straight m, it is totally feasible that all the women would have no trouble getting laid and 9 out of 10 men could find it so difficult, they would never succeed even once. If the hottest guy was more than willing to fuck every single woman, but the women were only willing to fuck the hottest guy, you would create that dynamic. Of course the real world isn’t that extreme, but it is a thought experiment that proves it …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 05:31 PM
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This marriage has deteriorated way past anything that can be salvaged in just three weeks. Slow down. Let her vent. She is scared. She has a cozy arrangement that provides her security. If she knows you are trying to change, this threatens her because she doesn’t know where it will end up or if it will be good for her. Her reaction is perfectly understandable. If you understand this, it will help you take her reactions less personally and you will appear less affected and butthurt because of it.…
/r/askMRP31/03/19 06:18 AM
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Bonobos, one of our closest primate relatives, rape. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjzrrvyzavhAhUCNOwKHYZoBFgQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fideas%2Farchive%2F2018%2F10%2Fare-men-wired-dominate-women-bonobos-suggest-not%2F571957%2F&psig=AOvVaw2aB1HnCysS3e76aLZUlOiy&ust=1554095196758431
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 05:08 AM
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Treating any demographic differently based on their representation in certain crimes is a “tread carefully” realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:41 PM
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Again. If you aren’t sexually harassing people, you probably have about as much chance at having your career ruined by a well publicized allegation of sexual assault as you have a chance of having your career ruined by any other scandal that you are innocent of. Not st the top of my outrage priorities. Just like I don’t lose any sleep at night about having my career ruined by a false racketeering allegation, I don’t really lose any sleep at night worrying about a false sexual harassment allegati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:31 PM
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You typically only go to jail if you actually rape someone. Although false rape accusation can and does happen, it is pretty rare to actually go to jail for it. I would go so far as to say that if you aren’t a rapist, you have about as much chance of ending up in jail for rape as you do any other crime you didn’t commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:23 PM
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What comes with jail time?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:52 PM
2

Of course girls want sex too, but they have their own form of shaming-slut shaming. Different things but they both have the effect of deterring people from being honest about their sexual wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:46 PM
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You can do it if you want. You can also live with a deep distrust of all people for all sorts of reasons, not just the threat of rape. I think that trust is a vital part of what makes society work though, even though lots of people do bad things to each other all the time. So you might have a smaller chance of getting raped if you behave that way, but there would probably be some negative social consequences that come with it. For example people tend to trust people who do trust others less than…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:42 PM
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I have heard that. It is one form of shaming male sexuality. The subtext is that there is something wrong with men wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:52 PM
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Most men in western culture are touch-starved. This is very bad for your mental health. People mostly stop touching boys around puberty. I internally interpret someone touching me as a come on, that is how rare it is. Women get touch way more often. So this would explain a part of why men get clingy. They are touch starved. And it feels good to be touched. This is not the case in all cultures by the way. Ugandan men can be very touchy with each other, so can Afghans. Both cultures have a hand-ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 06:04 PM
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My take on it is the less conditions the desire has, the more raw it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 12:40 AM
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No, there is a different name for it for men, stonefaced. But the same thing exists for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 12:05 PM
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You are right they are. But wanting and doing are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 01:59 AM
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Well do you like that? Maybe that is your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 01:52 AM
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Then chances are she doesn’t want it only with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 12:29 AM
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Thanks dude, it means a lot!
/r/askMRP13/03/19 12:16 AM
1

You’re right, not everything is a Gantt chart. But keeping a diary sure helps you be immune from gaslighting. And you are right, I am somewhat socially awkward. Not socially awkward enough to hinder my career in commodities broking, which pays a high 6 figure salary and relies almost exclusively on socializing. The job itself is easy. The network is hard to get. so I am lucky that way. Whatever personality quirks I have, I embrace all of it, because it got me where I am today. I used to hate whe…
/r/askMRP12/03/19 11:19 PM
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Setting reasonable realistic expectations for your relationships and having the balls to actually enforce those personal boundaries and the options to go through with that enforcement is not the same as a 3 YO whining. It is having a backbone and standards for yourself. She needs to know that although there is no pressure from my side, really if she decides she isn’t into it, I am ok with her leaving. But what I won’t stand for is her remaining after the sexual spark is gone, because she doesn’t…
/r/askMRP12/03/19 04:19 PM
1

Haha she knows I am borderline autistic, that is why WISNIFG spoke so well to me, and I was able to internalize it so well. At this point, I had run the whole MAP. Put 40 pounds on my frame lifting over the past two years, sidebarred everything, the good things twice till I was blue in the face, spent more time on my hobbies motorcycling, climbing, hunting, backcountry skiing, taken trips with the boys, almost doubled my already 9.9 percenter salary and bought a house and worked my ass off to ma…
/r/askMRP12/03/19 01:18 PM
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I track everything that is important to me. I keep professional diaries, workout diaries, sex diaries, and whatever else comes up for a period of time I Feel is worth documenting. Some people find tracking sex is pathetic. Some people here are saying track the leading indicators, not the lagging indicators like sex. But if you don’t track the sex how will you know if your leading indicators are working. I don’t know about you but I can’t remember what I ate and if I had sex or not a week in the …
/r/askMRP11/03/19 11:59 PM
2

I generally prefer my partner’s to not be sexual with other people besides me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 09:40 PM
1

*Focused on creating bodies that LOOK strong. If you want a community that is focused on creating bodies that ARE strong, better to go with r/powerlifting or something else. Not saying that you won’t look strong if you powerlift or that you won’t be strong if you bodybuild, you will in both cases. But there are differences in the approach that favor one over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 08:21 PM
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I am not Chad. I have decent facial aesthetics but I cant grow a beard and I have a weak jawline and have been cursed with a long thin neck. I have tiny hairless hands.I am introverted and clumsy. I suck at almost every sport I play. I don’t play any instruments. I don’t go to clubs. I have always done fine with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 10:38 PM
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Oh physical standards should absolutely be the same. And lots of women could qualify. Fewer, to be sure, but almost any average healthy woman could achieve hem, although with more work than the average man. But I have been a combat soldier in the field and I can tell you that the basic standards aren’t even good enough. You need to be able to do those things, and you simply can’t do them as well when you aren’t as fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:26 PM
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I don’t hear many men arguing that women shouldn’t be firefighters or in the army, maybe some but that is a small minority. Would say most think they should have to meet the same fitness standards as men though. This makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 05:45 PM
1

It sucks for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:21 PM
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Men understand intuitively that real life isn’t like porn. That is why they want porn. If life were like that, porn wouldn’t be interesting. But also, some women are like that. Lots are. Maybe not with you. But with certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:05 PM
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It is true men SAY that “bad pizza is still pizza”, people say all kinds of wrong things. ESPECIALLLY about sex because there is so much secrecy and mythology surrounding it. I have had lots of sex that left me feeling worse after I did it than before. Also, same with pizza. Some sayings are just sayings. Th
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 10:58 PM
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Bad sex can be worse than no sex. True. But for both men and women, not just women. And this goes for a lot of things: Food, Activities, Movies, A trip downtown for New Year’s Eve, Really any experience. So what? So you have some bad sex. Like anything in life, you gotta try things you both like and don’t like to develop a rich personality and find things that are meaningful to you. You can’t just find some cheat code to only do things you like and nothing you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:52 PM
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Lucky I stuck it out for her as well. It really isn’t a gender issue. You framing this as a male/female problem is unfortunately pretty common. There tends to be this idea that men have to “perform” while women have to lay back and allow the man to perform. If sex is bad, it must be because the man sucked at sex. Realitiy is much more nuanced. Women are not passive fuck holes, their actions account for roughly 50 percent of the outcome of if the sex is good or bad. It is pretty hard to win a bal…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:31 PM
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It doesn’t always suck the first time, but in my experience it does tend to suck the first time. I have also had people where the chemistry was so great the very first time, it was like being transported to another dimension. And that person turned out to be the most selfish person I have had the misfortune to know. I have also been with people who were great at first but lost interest and suddenly sucked at sex. I also have been with people I wasn’t attracted enough to want to go down on their …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:18 PM
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If I didn’t keep trying for a month or more, I wouldn’t have known that my wife was the best sex I had ever had in my life. Other people I have been with were great in the beginning but sucked in the long run. They were trying hard to impress me in the early days but that wasn’t who they really were. So long story short, I have not had a great track record of being able to trust my first sexual inpressions of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:42 PM
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Man here. Most of my first time sexual encounters with women tend to be aweful as well. It isn’t because women are selfish in general, although some are, no doubt. It is because sex is weird in our society and in most other societies as well. We can’t talk about it as openly as we can other topics, so we all have weird ideas about sex and pleasure. Most of us have taboo preferences as well that we need to ease into. For the most part you can’t bring people home from the bar and show them your mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:13 PM
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Some people would consider this option an advantage, some would not. It depends on your personal attitudes towards sex. I personally would consider it an advantage. Getting to the top always requires some sacrifice of your soul. Whether it is schmoozing with people you don’t really like on your own time late at night when you hate drinking, destroying your physical and mental health. Or it is putting your work life before your family life, or pretending to be interested in things you could not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 03:14 PM
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That is true. They aren’t being good friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 11:55 AM
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If you are using her flirting to feel better about yourself, then you aren’t being a good friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 11:39 PM
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Those two things are about as similar as a mitten and a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 08:24 PM
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You don’t always get what you pay for. I have a Hugo Boss suit I bought full price at a top notch department store that was not great. Some of the things I live in I bought on sale somewhere. I bought a pair of handmade in Spain boots for 400 dollars that don’t come anywhere close to the quality or look of my 250$ Thursday Boot Company boots. I found Banana Republic’s chinos were a perfect fit and looked good after 50 washes so I bought another in another color. First wash they looked like shit.…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/19 07:58 PM
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Depends on which ones. I have seen it go both ways, about 50:50. If you are a shitty person yourself your odds are probably worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 09:39 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say should be something you take to heart. For everything in life. People often tell the truth but absolutely everyone lies sometimes. Sometimes for good reasons. Sometimes out of tact. It doesn’t mean they are evil, it means you need to be a critical independent thinker with your own firm grip on reality, less naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 03:58 PM
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So here is a FR for you on how this went for me. So you are exactly where I was a few years ago with my then LTR. She wanted a FMF and we were exchanging porn on it, role-playing, etc. To find our unicorn she made a tinder account and wow! She didn’t swipe on anyone without matching. She would pick the hottest ones, message want to fuck, no beating around the bush, and every girl was down. I had heard finding a unicorn was hard, but this was super easy. But she would always chicken out. I decide…
/r/MarriedRedPill30/12/18 05:50 PM
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You might have this the wrong way around. It could just as easily be “don’t expect a man to pay attention to your emotional upkeep if you aren’t catering to his sexual needs”. The two have an intwined relationship, they feed off one another. You can’t say which one causes the other. However, you are right about one thing: too many people (both men and women) let themselves go in relationships and wonder where the sex went (women and men complain equally about their partner not catering to their …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:16 PM
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I don’t know about what it is like for women first hand, but I can tell you that post 30, the dating world was FAAR better to me than it was in college. Maybe that was all MY SMV growing, or women’s my age shrunk, or a combination of the two. And I hear women complain about it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 12:05 PM
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I don’t know about that. It looks fun. I have a good job, and if there were demand from straight women for male cam guys I would totally do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 12:57 PM
1

Which human right is under threat here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 12:43 PM
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Yes. The whole deal. Including dirty kinky stuff. Very seldom if ever, do we ever just have oral.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 09:00 PM
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Although dead bedrooms are split down the middle as to which gender is the refusing partner, the reasons for not wanting to have sex tend to be different for men than women. Our culture tends to shed more light on the trope of the horny husband and the coy wife. If you head over to r/deadbedrooms, you will see that isn’t the reality. The cases there seem to be 50/50 even though reddit usership is mostly (69 pct) male. So you might argue that more women have a hard time getting their partners to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 08:18 PM
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Sex without love is as hollow and ridiculous as love without sex. Hunter S. Thompson You are right, nobody is owed sex. And it is not an obligation. You are wrong that people are allowed to reject sex without worrying for their marriages. There are unfortunately consequences to rejecting sex when you are also forbidding your partner from having sex elsewhere. That is basically pressuring someone to NOT have sex, not just with you, but in general, which is as bad as pressuring someone TO have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 04:28 PM
0

Never say sorry. It is a sign of weakness.
/r/askMRP12/12/18 04:15 PM
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I think I comprehend it right. Your post boils down to this: "My wife doesn't socialize in bars with other men." If that correct? And that statement has a needy, insecure, controlling vibe to it. Would you feel that way if all the men had a SMV of 2/10? Not unless you were a 2 or less. So don’t act like they are better than you and she will be less likely to feel they are. And maybe you are right maybe she doesn’t need to do this if she isn’t getting the feels from you. So give her those feels. …
/r/askMRP11/12/18 07:33 PM
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by far the biggest loss of all the above is to be seen by his kids losing his cool and hitting his pregnant wife. Then going to jail. He cares too much about a video game. He is too reactive to her bitching. If I were him I would take care of my responsibilities before I needed to be told. If she was being unreasonable, then I would have told her in a call voice. And used assertiveness tools from When I Say No, I Feel Guilty , to assert his will without starting a fight in a way that leaves his …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:50 PM
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If a woman wants to cheat on you, she will find a way. Probably the most likely way my wife would cheat on me is when I travel on business or for sports with my friends. Certainly that would be the easiest way to do it. Far easier than on a night out drinking with old colleagues. Am I going to stop traveling for work or bring her to guys-only trips so I can be sure she isn’t cheating on me? Nope. I have a friend who doesn’t dance, but his wife loves to dance. He goes to every dance night at the …
/r/askMRP11/12/18 06:21 PM
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Man here. I don’t know if I agree with Dan. I prefer to keep things above water. Sometimes people try to manipulate you to do what they abt you to do with feelings. “I would be devastated if you slept with someone else” presumable he could say the same thing: “ I would be devastated if you became asexual” because he would. But that doesn’t take away her right to not have sex with him if she so pleases. And she does just that. So a better approach is to say “ I understand you would be devastated …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 12:23 AM
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There certainly is. I don’t often take Rollo’s side because I think his views seem to be biased because it seems a woman hurt his feelings at some point, and that bitterness seems to seep through his musings, but in this case he has a great point. You are the prize. If you are insecure about GNO, then you are insecure about you being the prize. If you express insecurity about GNO, then she will pick up the sub message: that you don’t believe you are the prize.
/r/askMRP10/12/18 10:10 PM
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Sounds like an ultimatum: an admission of powerlessness. And you going to flee your own house because you think SHE misbehaves? Sounds weird to me.
/r/askMRP10/12/18 05:01 PM
0

dude that’s so weak.
/r/askMRP10/12/18 04:58 PM
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Not a great excuse not to lift. I lifted before 12 hour work days. Also. Put your own mask on before helping others. If you can’t manage looking after yourself even, why are you gunning for a promotion. First get yourself in order, then worry about other stuff. You need to work out minimum three times a week.
/r/askMRP10/12/18 03:23 PM
1

So imgur? That’s your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:00 PM
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You got any data for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:32 PM
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I wouldn’t marry a woman who I didn’t have sex with on the first date. It is a red flag if they need a few days to make up their mind if they find you attractive enough to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:31 PM
3

I don’t imagine I am anybody. I just get off on seeing sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 06:58 PM
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They are favors because she isn’t obligated to do them because I am not needy. That is the whole point of the last few sentences. I think I get what you are trying to say, something like that you shouldn’t feel like you don’t deserve it. Is that about right?
/r/MarriedRedPill25/11/18 01:42 AM
1

I think you meant to post this in r/ihavesex
/r/MarriedRedPill25/11/18 12:04 AM
1

Sexual favors aren’t necessarily negotiated. The good faith ones are given freely on her own initiative for its own sake. Is your wife a terrorist?
/r/MarriedRedPill24/11/18 11:48 PM
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Totally with that not negotiating sex thing. I am talking about voluntarily given a favor as a tribute out of affection. Like a massage because I had a hard day, or working over the stove all day to see me happy eating my favorite dish.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/11/18 11:41 PM
3

Esther Perel has a book called Mating in Captivity. You might like that one as well.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/11/18 11:48 AM
2

Not necessarily. Sometimes I absolutely love to be treated and just relax and enjoy and be treated. There isn’t anything like it. I also giving in the same way. As long as it is done for its own sake.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 09:39 PM
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Controlling is bad. Leading is not. Controlling relies on coercion. Leading means people willingly go along with you. Power is neutral. It is neither leading nor controlling. Both are types of power. This example is actually neither because it was her idea. But also something to bear in mind. Also, the agreement has nothing to do with controll, it is more about responsibility. The responsibility to not neglect your partner’s needs if you are going to be asking for monogamy. Assuming monogamy wit…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 09:36 PM
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I would say that it is self evident that one shouldn’t take on the mantle of being someone’s only sexual outlet if they aren’t up for the task. Yes it is subjective, and imprecise, like almost everything about sex and interpersonal relationship ships. I wouldn’t call it needy, it is kind of the opposite of that. I don’t need her to be sexually satisfied. I imagine many wives wouldn’t go for this, especially if they are struggling with attraction to their husbands. You will probably only have luc…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 09:34 PM
2

Cool tip from the good book. Bang as many women as you want as long as you marry every one of them. It is that “one weird trick to avoid fire and brimstone” How much are you charging for this wisdom?
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 07:58 PM
1

Why then use he word the covert contract you are missing is “fuck me or something you won’t like will happen.” I didn’t make that agreement.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 06:54 PM
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Cheating is what you do when you don’t have the balls to stand up for what you really want/need out of your relationship. You set the rules. Why do you have to cheat at a game YOU made the rules to?
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 03:49 PM
3

Yessir. That is the sweet spot for me. Any more and it loses its novelty appeal. Any less and it wouldn’t be enough for me.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 03:46 PM
1

Was talking about the having sex outside the marriage.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 01:35 PM
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Better to have your dignity than slightly more anal.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 01:34 PM
9

That isn’t quite right. It is an explicit agreement, not a covert contract.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 12:59 PM
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Any woman who doesn’t want to take up her husband’s name is free to do so. None of my wives did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 11:52 AM
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It is about sexual strategy in marriage and avoiding a common pitfall of being manipulated by your wife and not having your wife shrivel up for you. Is MRP not interested in those things?
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 04:32 AM
1

This solution obviously won’t work for you if you are a god fearing Christian.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/11/18 04:17 AM
7

The stats here are misleading. Yes heterosexual women cum less than heterosexual men. But gay women also cum less than gay men. And gay men cum more than straight men. If the explanation for the orgasm gap was some fault of men, then you would expect gay men to cum less than straight men. Single women also cum less th single men. Women just cum less. Also the stats on oral are misleading. In my experience, women often turn down my offers of oral instead asking for PIV. Even though I am far more …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:45 PM
2

Two books to read: No More Mr Nice Guy and When I Say No I Feel Guilty. For the latter I recommend the audiobook as you might find it hard to get through with all the role plays otherwise.
/r/MarriedRedPill22/11/18 11:27 AM
1

Why is your deadlift almost 100 pounds behind your squat? Typically these are well over your squat.
/r/askMRP22/11/18 03:00 AM
0

Everyone is already overwealmingly professional in spite of the fact that women dress like that for work. Could you imagine if a guy showed up for an office job in something that showed his armpits,his toes, something that required tape to avoid his nipple being shown, and something so short, it requires careful maneuvering not to show his penis or ass. I mean, I get it, nothing is a license to misbehave, but let’s keep things in context here. The lengths women can get away is huge here. And wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:53 PM
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Well here is the thing. Women talk about oppressive dress codes, and I get it, I wouldn’t want to have to wear heels either, but women’s dress codes are, on a whole, more liberated than men’s. Men have a narrower range of clothes we can appropriately wear, and certainly don’t have the options on paper or socially to wear revealing clothing in the workplace or in schools. I know women complain of slut shaming for say, showing cleavage, but if men were to show, say the top of their penis at work, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:09 PM
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So is the 17:1 ratio stat from the agriculturalisn age. But my question is does anyone have a source. I can find a source for the 17:1 stat, but the 3:1 stat I can’t seem to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 02:38 PM
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Where did you get this 2:1 and 3:1 stat? I have looked everywhere for it but all I can find is the 17:1 and feminists always say “ya but agriculture” then I have a sneaking suspicion is was always like that maybe just not as extreme. But I can’t find a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 12:22 PM
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Working out is not BP. BP is more body acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 10:20 PM
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Oh yes I struggled with that as well. The adage is to withdraw affection and DGaF, but really hard to do that without seeming butthurt I agree. And that is not sexy. I struggled with this as well for a while but what I found was that fostering a general playful attitude about sex in general helps. Be rediculous with it. Don’t take it too seriously. Ask for rediculous shit that is WAY out of her comfort zone that you don’t even like. When she turns you down you won’t care because you won’t want i…
/r/askMRP27/10/18 08:45 PM
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Look normally negotiated sex doesn’t work and is gross and pathetic. Negotiated sex acts are not. Your wife is already enthusiastic about having sex with you, so upping “dread” (stupid word) probably won’t work or isn’t the right solution. In any relationship, almost certainly, one partner will want something sexually the other partner isn’t thrilled with. Even if they are attracted to each other. No one says each and every sex act must be mutually enjoyable. The sex life on a whole needs to be …
/r/askMRP27/10/18 01:49 PM
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It is used to be spelled HISterical. MRAs successfully lobbied to change the spelling to hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:25 PM
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Isolating you from friends is a red flag that your partner is abusive.
/r/askMRP04/10/18 09:27 PM
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Maybe but not necessarily. My favorite anal activity (and probably favorite sexual activity of any kind) is rimming and there is no prostate involved in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 04:36 PM
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Absolutely. If it hurts you are doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 04:35 PM
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Men are fine at oral. You are 18, everyone is shitty at every type of sex at that age. Men and women both. But young men still manage to cum from young teenager’s toothy blowjobs and awkward handjobs don’t they? It is just way easier for men to cum. It isn’t really men’s fault Women are just bad at cuming from manual stimulation. Women have conditioned themselves to vibrators. Also compounding the problem is women in my experience aren’t that great at telling men what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 03:19 PM
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I will grant you there is definately a concert effect of anal and clit stimulation but it ain’t all clit. If the clit were the sole reason for the orgasm then why isn’t cunnilingus the sex act most likely to lead to orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 01:11 AM
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There is something inherently pleasurable about anal. That is what we are discussing here. On the orgasm gap, women have an orgasm gap in all sexual acts. They cum less than men in heterosexual acts, lesbian women cum less than gay men. That orgasm gap isn’t because of porn. In fact the only sex act likely to bring a women’s likelihood of cumming on par with men’s is-anal. And yes not a lot of women do anal regularely. But those who do, seem to enjoy it. Damn porn! Causing all those orgasms! Who…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 01:09 AM
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Not inherently pleasurable? What does that even mean? Plenty of people get off on that shit. I do. Look at these stats. For an “inherently” not pleasurable act, the people who do it sure do cum a lot. Check this: https://metro.co.uk/2015/08/25/this-is-the-best-way-to-give-a-woman-an-orgasm-apparently-5359272/ If anything people are conditioned to NOT like it by shaming. Porn is just opening us up to it. Men are the first to be influenced by these liberal attitudes about sex because they are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/18 12:15 AM
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“Conditioned” it sounds so evil. Yes our cultural tastes are influenced by media, which is... influenced by cultural tastes in a drifting feedback loop that changes all the time. If people like it, who cares why they like it, or if you think it is “wrong” they like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 10:26 PM
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We don’t know how recent this deals with but presumably a recent snapshot is a realistic cross section of that actually goes on. And yes I will agree that men are expected to be the initiators and decision makers in sexual encounters. That means that almost all the mistakes are going to be made by men as well. On the part that of a woman didn’t enjoy it, it was perceived that she didn’t enjoy it because she didn’t relax. That is 100 percent true. It hurts me as well when I don’t relax, even thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 09:18 PM
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I will give you that clit rubbing is part of the cocktail. But if it is the sole reason bringing people who take anal to orgasm, then why do solely clit focused methods like cunnilingus score lower than anal? And why does receptive anal coincidentally rank highest on men’s list as well if the anal has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 07:14 PM
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No I understand the data is only showing women who actually have anal sex which is more likely to be people who actually like it. And maybe the majority of people actually find it unenjoyable. But it appears by this data that not many women are being coerced into doing anal when they don’t like it. Out of the people actually doing it, they are enjoying it. And yes clitoral stimulation likely has something to do with the orgasms but that isn’t the full story or you would expect clit only methods …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:41 PM
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Well if you had read it, it is a study of actual women and men who have anal sex and the replies are that it is the sex act most likely to be accompanied by orgasm. So if you were suggesting that women get their opinions from actually having anal sex instead of reading articles, then I think you would be mostly wrong about that. Maybe YOU don’t like anal. That is fine. Everyone is different. But it appears the vast majority of people doing it are thrilled with it. So it isn’t some plague brought…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 06:03 PM
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Who cares why orgasms come with anal, it can’t be all that bad if they do! And they do! And yes maybe the clit is involved. There is more likely a synergistic effect between all types, the holy grail for my wife and I is anal, vaginal, and clitoral at the same time. But even clit stimulation alone is far less likely to bring a woman to orgasm (compare it with cubnilingus), also it is telling that anal has the same ranking in men, and if it were about whatever else were going on with his dick and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 05:57 PM
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Yes, I like to give and to receive. Love both. It is a staple in my married sex life. I don’t think you read the article. It is actual people who do various sex acts reporting if they came or not during the last time they had sex. People who receive anal (both men and women) are far more likely to orgasm then any other sex act. Damn it porn! You are ruining our sacred sex lives with orgasms!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 05:50 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 05:29 PM
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What about the actual people of antiquity. The Greeks and romans. Having sex with young boys, having slave concubines while the women couldn’t leave the house basically. I wouldn’t blame Porn. We have always been horny as fuck. If anything we are more prudish now than in our early history and certainly our prehistory
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 05:29 PM
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What does everyone have against anal? It is the only sex act that is capable of bringing a woman’s odds of orgasming up to that of men’s. https://metro.co.uk/2015/08/25/this-is-the-best-way-to-give-a-woman-an-orgasm-apparently-5359272/ Women are their own worst enemies when it comes to sex. If anything we should thank porn for anal. It is like a launch button for orgasms if you get your head around its tainted reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 05:25 PM
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I wouldn’t worry about it. It is her business really. Of course she had sex before you. Do you think you are special? Of course she kept the photos. Probably forgot about them too. I am positive I have old photos of my own around and I can’t remember where. No biggie. Move on with your life.
/r/askMRP04/09/18 08:33 PM
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Ya that isn’t hypergamy. Interesting that women become less desirable after 18 and men peak at 40. I have seen a lot of retorts that the wall is a myth and that men in their 30s aren’t desirable. Seems to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 01:25 PM
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If you are happy with your form on the main lifts, I would take the starting weights with a grain of salt. The point of it is that you need to have the form in your muscle memory by the time the weight gets hard, your form is so natural that it doesn’t break down under absolute max effort, which is where you will be most of the time in this program. That takes a lot of reps of the same lifts on a regular basis to work. If you have been doing too much variety in the gym over the past while I woul…
/r/askMRP01/08/18 10:10 PM
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You are doing a bro split. Waste of time for a novice like you. You are a hard gainer because you are doing a bro split. Google Stronglifts, read everything on that site, download the app, get your squat to 300, then switch to Texas method or Madcow. You don’t need isolation exercises yet because your whole body is a weak area still. Spend your time on the main lifts. Squats, DL, BP, rows, and OHP, and maybe a couple of assistance in the beginning while the program is still easy. As a novice you…
/r/askMRP31/07/18 12:54 PM
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https://stronglifts.com/5x5/ Read everything on that website, download the app, and do the work. Boom, you will be stronger than 90 percent of men in only 6 months.
/r/askMRP31/07/18 11:37 AM
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I am sure you know about it but Stronglifts will get an average couch potato from the couch to 300 squat in 6 months. I was 6 feet, 160 lbs and 25 percent BF. I failed my first 5x5 squat at 200 lbs. today I did 3x5 at 285 and weigh 184 at the same BF, maybe a bit higher. I have never been naturally athletic and could have considered myself a “hardgainer” I am also past my peak years for this. Rest of it I can’t help you.
/r/askMRP31/07/18 12:06 AM
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Art of manliness isn’t all “fuk wimminz”. Someone should tell those boys at TRP that getting fit, more assertive, and more successful will work without hating women.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/18 11:18 PM
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TRP is full of bitter hateful men, and I would stay away from it for that reason. The “Fuk wimminz” part of it is totally unnecessary. But if you want to be valued more for your sexuality, lifting is number one, there are several books that are in the RP reading list that will get you on track. When I Say No, I Feel Guilty, No More Mr. Nice Guy, Married Man Sex Life Primer, and Stronglifts have literally changed my life. Read those. You will be more attractive if you follow them to the letter. Y…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/18 11:06 PM
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He is abusive and a loser. Your marriage cannot survive that.
/r/askMRP25/07/18 05:53 PM
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“prosecutor can show” The burden of proof is still on the prosecutor to prove that the defendant should have known. Right? Plus theft and rape is about as apples and oranges as comparisons get. One there is tangible evidence to consider, the other deals with events which in almost all cases are knowable only by two people, and even in this case, you have two people who were so drunk they can’t even remember going to bed. I really struggle to make the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 03:02 PM
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Stolen goods is way different. And that isn’t exactly how the burden of proof works for stolen goods. WallStreet already pointed that out to you. If you bought something at Wal-Mart and it turned out that Wal-Mart had stolen it, the consumer wouldn’t have to face punishment because he didn’t know. The prosecution still has to prove that a reasonable person would have known it was stolen. But wouldn’t such a law you propose make it harder to prosecute rapes where consent was withdrawn? (I would g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 12:09 PM
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Doesn’t that make the situation even worse for these “grey area” rape as you call it? If you have given written consent for sex, does it mean that you can’t be raped from there on in? Does it really solve anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:43 AM
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Stupid is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:38 AM
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I get it. We want to prosecute more rapists because rape is a crime, and less crime is better. Clearly. But how do you come up with a fair system for a third party to decide who is a rapist? The more egregious we deem he crime to be, the more careful we have to be in prosecuting the criminals. That is why murder trials drag on forever. Because the crime is considered SO serious, that we need to be almost 100 percent sure that we have the right guy. And if we are only 90 percent sure, we let the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 12:51 AM
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Why do you think this crime should be treated differently than other crimes? Murder for example. You have to prove that the murderer killed someone. You don’t ask the accused to prove that they didn’t do it. What you are suggesting is that you shift the burden of proof. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 06:37 PM
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The law presumes innocence until proof beyond reasonable doubt is presented. I don’t know why anyone would expect anything different for this crime compared to any other crime. It sucks that not every bad guy is caught for every crime but that is the fairest system we can think of. It is worth noting lots of investigation was done so she was taken seriously, as she should be, but literally zero evidence surfaced in spite of rigorous investigations. How could anyone expect to convince anyone of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 06:05 PM
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People’s parents, esp mothers, feed them this. So ya I think chances are, they believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:35 PM
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It does, sort of. Women are attracted -sexually attracted to usefulness, as one of many criteria. Money is a pretty decent heuristic for determining usefulness. But it isn’t the money itself they are attracted to, it is the usefulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 11:31 PM
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Usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:56 PM
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Just read back your shit, we actuallly agree 100 percent with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 09:54 PM
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Well you need to reference the steps of escalation to not staw man because context is everything. It is like saying “killing is wrong, killers are bad people” sounds wrong. But if you are referencing a story where a man killed someone who tried to kill his child, when he tried to deal with the would be murderer by first reasoning with him, then showing he man that he was armed, then firing a warning shot, then finally escalating to killing the man all the while retreat wasn’t an option. All of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 09:25 PM
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Totally agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:51 PM
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Yes if things get super far advanced and the other party steps up, then you gotta resort to stuff like that but in both cases I would say that most self respecting people would left the relationship before the situation warranted escalation that high. It is really for people have put a shitload of effort and time into doing the right thing and for whom retreat is a very unfavorable option be it kids or financial or health or other reasons. It is important to keep active dread in context. The wri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:51 PM
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I would read the books on dread again if I were you, because you are strawmanning dread. Dread is essentially self improvement, with the ultimate aim of making it obvious to the opposite sex including your wife, that you are perceived as a fit, useful, pleasant person to be around. This will eventually take you out of a dependent needy position and give you options, and your wife will subtly know that you are worthy of her affection, spurred on by the subtle knowledge, demonstrated by her observ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 12:01 PM
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I think you are confusing dread with overt manipulation using explicit withdraw or the threat of withdrawing resources. This is like her telling you that she will stop having sex with you until you clean the house to her standards every day. How do you think you would respond? Would you clean the house with enthusiasm? Nope, with resentment. That is all you get with this tactic. Dread is just a natural consequence of you becoming a man with options. Not you threatening to leave her with nothing …
/r/askMRP28/06/18 02:54 AM
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You are looking at this with the wrong perspective. If sex is used as a tool of manipulation, it ruins its appeal for both partners. It breeds resentment for both only and will poison both the sex and the relationship. If she is genuinely not attracted then fair enough but consciously withholding because she isn’t getting what she wants? Red flag! It is like the husband withholding money from a wife if he is the breadwinner until he gets his blowjob. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:22 AM
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Just quick, brutal honest question. What would you consider your SMV to be, because when mine was say, 4 or 5, I had the same sour grapes attitude towards “Staceys”, but the moment they became achievable, I was all about them. That sort of mindset is super helpful for your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 10:29 PM
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Switch roles with him for a while. See if that changes his perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 04:47 PM
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Guess it is the same reason there is no market for male sex workers. Men and women are very different. When you understand this, it make sense that the world is the way it is. If we pretend men and women are the same deep down, then we start to wonder why the world doesn’t look the way it would if our hypothesis, that men and women are essentially the same, were true. Instead of re-thinking your hypothesis, you try to influence the world to make it congruent with your hypothesis. It is the scien…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 11:52 PM
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The data showing that couples where men do more chores have more sex simply supports the obvious conclusion that overworked and tired people are less horny. I would guess it works that way for men too. That says nothing about gender roles. The old data from the 80s showed that men who did more housework had less sex. This is because duel income households were more rare. So a woman could do the chores without being exhausted. Now with more duel income households, men doing more chores simply pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:11 PM
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The data doesn’t support your hypothesis unfortunately. Another case of what he what they do not what they say. The data showing that couples where men do more chores have more sex simply supports the obvious conclusion that overworked and tired people are less horny. I would guess it works that way for men too. That says nothing about gender roles. The old data from the 80s showed that men who did more housework had less sex. This is because duel income households were more rare. Now with more …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 12:38 AM
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You are confusing having strong frame with going Rambo. If you truely don’t care one little bit if she finds you repulsive or irresistible, why not kill the puppy and spin plates? You are living a bit of a fantasy. Seems a bit weird for a red pilled guy to stay married to someone he doesn’t care at all about. Why intentionally stay on hard mode? Does a captain care if his crew think he is a tyrant or they feel he doesn’t have their interest in mind? Yes, it is crucial to the running of the ship …
/r/askMRP20/06/18 05:07 PM
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You are kind of right. The aim is to be attractive to other women, but at least in part to that our SO notices and the preselection effect goes into play. Otherwise we would all be at TRP, not MRP. That and to bolster our abundance mentality, which is in turn attractive. Of course none of this works as well if any of them notice you care, which is the subtle art of course.
/r/askMRP20/06/18 11:26 AM
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They do get half of what the man saved while they were together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:19 AM
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Preventive medicine. It will slide eventually if I don’t stay on top of things. I would attribute the success in our sex life to the very teachings in here which I discovered very early In our relationship and applied rigorously. Without dread game I doubt she would be as enthusiastic.
/r/askMRP20/06/18 02:34 AM
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Really good points. Let’s not pretend we don’t care how attractive we are perceived of by our partners though. This isn’t MGTOW. A fundamental tenant of MRP is raising your SMV. This means we care about how attractive we are perceived as, but we must pretend that we don’t. But no need to pretend in here. That is literally why we are all here. SMV is solely based on other people’s perception of you. It isn’t the same as setting a goal for a 350 squat.
/r/askMRP20/06/18 02:32 AM
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She always tries to cuddle right after rejecting sex. I just am less cuddly at that time.
/r/askMRP20/06/18 02:26 AM
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Maybe you are right, the women could very well be hotter than his “looksmatch” however, it doesn’t work like that. Men are not attracted to money in a partner. They mostly look at who a woman is, not what she has. Of course he wants the highest quality woman who he is capable of loving and who is capable of loving him back. There is nothing carnal going on from his side. Even if he “doesn’t deserve her” he pays for it during the marriage by supporting her. Why should he have to give her half his…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:20 AM
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I bet you would like that. You are the “You can't get rejected if you never initiate“ guy. Guess you haven’t been banned yet. Enjoy the trolling while it lasts!
/r/askMRP20/06/18 01:38 AM
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This all sounds very plausible, in 1940. Feminism came, and things have changed. Here is another perspective. Man goes to school, works hard for shit wages for a long time, doesn’t get laid. Finally lands the big job and salary that comes with it. Suddenly women take notice of him. He marries someone who didn’t go to school and instead spent her youth partying, because surprise, these are the ones who are going to be really good to him now. They marry, she brings nothig to the marriage financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:48 PM
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Frame isn’t exactly not caring what others think. Autistics are pretty good at that, but they are not attractive. You care about raising your SMV right? Well that means you care how other people perceive you. SMV is nothing but how others perceive you. You can have frame and care about your SMV. Otherwise we would all be on MGTOW. It is about how not to be perceived as whiny when following the advice given here. Because whether or not I care if she thinks I am butthurt or not, she will still int…
/r/askMRP19/06/18 09:35 PM
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Interesting, explain how frame would help in this situation.
/r/askMRP19/06/18 08:06 PM
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Cheating and openly poly is way more then a semantic difference. You were showing off for an internet try hard but then backpeddled because what you said sounded stupid to me. You can do better. Here is a tip, if you want to troll Internet forums in your spare time, you will have more fun if you don’t get dragged into the frame of the guy you are trying to troll. Now get off the internet and find some value to add somewhere, because you aren’t doing it here. That may be hard as an English Major,…
/r/askMRP19/06/18 08:04 PM
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Not exactly cheating if it is open is it?
/r/askMRP19/06/18 06:59 PM
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If you are cheating, you are in her frame. Have the relationship you want on your own terms or kill the puppy. If you are scared to have an open relationship like a lot of guys here, then it is probably because deep down, you know your SMV isn’t high enough to be as successful as her in the open seas with the big fish. She will find out one day so better to act from a position of strength. Unless you don’t have the frame for that in which case, you do you.
/r/askMRP19/06/18 05:54 PM
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Ya I tried STFU, she also interprets that as butthurt. I think you are stretching the meaning of STFU. It means don’t get dragged into pointless arguments where you are in her frame, and that you should probably be talking less. It doesn’t mean you turn mute. Nothing wrong with abundance mentality, attractiveness, or public appearances. I have a job that requires me to shmooze at least a couple of times a week, plus I have high status hobbies as well. And I am an expat in Asia, so going out as a…
/r/askMRP19/06/18 12:40 PM
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I am definitely a few percentage points above my ideal, and it has been rising, but that is all a part of my plan and fits within my larger plan of becoming more attractive over the long term. Sometimes you need to take anstep backwards to take two steps forward. I need to eat above maintainance right now until my LP lifting program is finished. I will continue to gain BF in that period of time, and I am fine with that, I have no problem losing it. I am aiming for being over 300 on squats, 209 o…
/r/askMRP19/06/18 02:30 AM
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I have hobbies, sailing, climbing, and classic motorcycles, but I usually initiate at night, and this is the only time I get tirned down. Kind of hard for me to roll out of bed at 11 and go for a ride on my bike without appearing butthurt. Also, I don’t think my issue is that she doesn’t think I have other options. She was very upset about some other girl in my office who made a pass at me when she was there. She passive-aggressively told me that she should be my new climbing buddy, that I shoul…
/r/askMRP19/06/18 01:19 AM
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I never thought of this. She has mentioned that her old BFs would get butthurt a lot and that she found it disgusting. I could imagine when they sense their pussy power doesn’t work, it causes some serious anxiety. Maybe that is the response I am seeing. Thanks bro.
/r/askMRP19/06/18 12:47 AM
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You said this: “And number six better be Slutty Sally from just down the street.” I have read that link That is why I mentioned dread level 11-cheating, in restponse to your above quote. Wouldn’t say dread is an issue. Wife sees me get hit on a lot, it is a constant theme and would say a major source of anxiety for her in our relationship. She has explicitly told me in words how she feels which is basically exactly the feeling dread is supposed to cause. A little background, I have been living i…
/r/askMRP19/06/18 12:43 AM
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Thanks dude.
/r/askMRP19/06/18 12:25 AM
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Yes I have sidebarred myself blue in the face. The lifting is going great, but guess what? It has nothing to do with my question. Googled double bind, got this answer: dou·ble bind ˈˌdəbəl ˈbīnd/Submit noun a situation in which a person is confronted with two irreconcilable demands or a choice between two undesirable courses of action. That is exactly what I meant so I was using it correctly. Maybe you were understanding it incorrectly. Look, this is ASK MRP. If you are going to say “lift, sideb…
/r/askMRP19/06/18 12:24 AM
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No, no I didn’t. Have read two entire books on dread for example taken notes, and journaled about my progress, writing what went well and what I could have done differently, for months. Would say I have a pretty good grasp on it. Although not perfect. Do you have anything productive to add whatsoever?
/r/askMRP19/06/18 12:13 AM
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Tried shutting up. That also comes across as butthurt as well.
/r/askMRP18/06/18 11:13 PM
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Sounds like you don’t quite understand dread. Have you even read MMSLP? Cheating is way up the levels of the other shit doesn’t work. Like I said, this is preventative medicine, not dread level 11. Dread isn’t my issue. She has explicitly verbally expressed the exact worry to me that dread is meant to instill. And with good reason. She has watched some very forward advances by women. I am not goin to sit here and write some autoerotic fan fiction about it, but dread is not the issue. However, I …
/r/askMRP18/06/18 11:09 PM
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Yes, have read the vast majority of it. Are you referring to something specific in it you think is relevant to this situation? Maybe there is some corner of sidebar I haven’t read that you have that has my answer... who knows. I have scanned it all and read cover to cover the stuff that isn’t a waste of time, poorly written or redundant to something I have read somewhere else. Now, I am assuming you are a very busy man, you didn’t take time out of that very busy day to post me something I had al…
/r/askMRP18/06/18 10:39 PM
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