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| 12 | [Discussion] What this sub is for? | WhosCountin | /r/ExRedPill | 16/06/17 07:23 PM | |
| 10 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkable | CMV | WhosCountin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 12:33 AM |
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| 1 | Study done by a woman shows part of how women contribute to "toxic masculinity".Huh? I was agreeing with you. It’s been the case in all my my relationships that vulnerability on my part clearly hurts the sexual side of our relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/19 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: what is the minimum threshold of attractiveness that a woman must have in order to be worthy of a middle/ upper middle class man age 25-35 who isn’t hideous?But it’s better than nothin, yeh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Q4men: what is the minimum threshold of attractiveness that a woman must have in order to be worthy of a middle/ upper middle class man age 25-35 who isn’t hideous?If a woman despises me and still fucks me, that’s even more of a compliment or ego boost. That means I’m succeeding even when I have the deck stacked against me. I’m winning on hard mode. Look at it that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: what is the minimum threshold of attractiveness that a woman must have in order to be worthy of a middle/ upper middle class man age 25-35 who isn’t hideous?If you’re a 6/10 you can jump on tinder and fuck a 9/10 within 24 hours. Women clearly have it much easier. Oh wait, I think I just remembered something. Women and men want different things and face different challenges and it’s retarded to say either group on the whole has it easier or harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: what is the minimum threshold of attractiveness that a woman must have in order to be worthy of a middle/ upper middle class man age 25-35 who isn’t hideous?Stop being combative. I have to spend 10+ hours a week at the gym, spend tons of time and money on clothes, haircuts, beard grooming, briefcases, hair products, accessories, etc. It’s not a male or female problem. It’s a human problem. Unless you’re born with amazing genes, which, news flash, most of us aren’t. Are you like 17 years old or something? If you don’t want to put in the effort to be attractive, settle for an unattractive partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 09:29 PM |
| 1 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?The Fountainhead is really interesting and often thought provoking, but it’s in no way a good argument for any sort of philosophy or worldview. I really like it as a unique epic novel about a bunch of exaggerated freaks, and Ayn Rand was clearly an interesting intelligent woman, but I don’t feel like it’s a very strong philosophical argument overall. I’m glad I read it though. It’s a really distinct book that I won’t forget. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: what is the minimum threshold of attractiveness that a woman must have in order to be worthy of a middle/ upper middle class man age 25-35 who isn’t hideous?I literally said Botox and surgery were unnecessary. Did you even read my post? I said get skinny, do squats, wear wrup pants, and get really good at makeup. You’ll absolutely be better than the average girl by doing those things, unless you have some sort of serious facial deformity, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: what is the minimum threshold of attractiveness that a woman must have in order to be worthy of a middle/ upper middle class man age 25-35 who isn’t hideous?u/TheMarbleSlab Tagging OP since she’s the one who wanted advice originally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: what is the minimum threshold of attractiveness that a woman must have in order to be worthy of a middle/ upper middle class man age 25-35 who isn’t hideous?As a man, all of these things are pluses for a relationship, but really are irrelevant if the woman isn’t someone I’d actively want to bang based on her looks alone. For some real advice: Girls have TONS of room to improve their looks. Botox and surgery are pretty extreme and almost always completely unnecessary. Get very thin and pump up your butt (diet + cardio + squats) and get really good at makeup. Wear wrup pants. Not all guys like dolled up skinny girls with nice asses... but it’d be ridi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:19 PM |
| 2 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?I’m not sure how indicative of anything that would be. Ugly and attractive are both pretty vague words, so I just went with a paragon of each. I feel like finding the edge cases would be much more interesting (but also basically impossible since there are so many different types of women and obviously it’s never a direct 1:1 comparison) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 08:10 PM |
| 1 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?I’m like a hundred pages from the end of The Fountainhead, and I think Infinite Jest or Dune was going to be next... but maybe I’ll pivot to this. I’m already pretty sure I’m at least gonna bump Infinite Jest down the queue, that’s a lot to digest right after the weight of Ayn Rand’s amphetamine-fueled dogma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:47 PM |
| 4 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?I’m a pretty average looking guy. I put a lot of money and effort into my body and looks, I have a good career and I’m decently charming after years of working on it, but I’m still not as hot as the girls I want to sleep with. As a guy, it’s very hard shooting physically above your league. It generally means I have to find girls who are equally below my league in other areas: finances, intelligence, emotional stability, etc. If I was gonna shoot above my league in terms of finances, I’d absolute… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Why is being taken care of and provided for not seen as a privilege?Ok fine, forget that scenario, because it is extreme. Let's loosen it up, and I'll move over to America, since as an American, it's my natural point of reference. Let's also remove any poverty. In this scenario, the only restriction is that she doesn't start out independently wealthy, with a giant trust fund, etc. She's still created children who will have more resources, freedom, and power than 99.9% of their generation. The average American on the "successful" path leaves school with tens of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 07:14 PM |
| 2 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?the idea that someone could see me, or sex with me, as something that is just casual and not the most amazing thing in the universe would be too unacceptable for my ego to actually enjoy the experience I used to be more like that. But that was back when I used to feel like sex with certain girls was "the most amazing thing in the universe". Specific instances of sex or specific girls seemed way more important. Like I would get with a girl who was a step up from any girl I'd previously been with,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Why is being taken care of and provided for not seen as a privilege?Because growing up as the child of a prostitute in a crumbling country is so much better than death, right? Just to be clear, this is specifically in the context of Melania's choice as u/MakeMoneyNotWar outlined it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Why is being taken care of and provided for not seen as a privilege?Objection, irrelevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 06:01 PM |
| 2 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?Yeah baby, I think most people would agree with you. I'm all kinds of fucked up. Took me a little too long to realize the self-fulfilling cycle aspects of TRP, but once I realized, I was already too deep. It's hard to quit psycho hot nympho girls. Both me and my current fwb are putting a lot of effort into actively avoiding more serious feelings. We've lapsed a little bit into that territory on acid (and especially molly) a few times, but we both have spent years of our adult lives in terrible t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 05:44 PM |
| 1 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?I dunno, I’ve had certain FWB relationships where we both will regularly bring up other people or our past. I think it’s an effective way to inoculate against catching feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 05:31 PM |
| 2 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?It's not ouch at all, as long as you can get the same kind of behavior out of her. Well, I guess unless you've already started to catch feelings. In which case, get some better standards and learn to be more discerning. Unless you mean "ouch" for the girl shooting herself in the foot so hard. I've met girls that do this; it's really baffling. But unless they're really psycho pieces of shit who are fucking with you and telling you about stuff they wouldn't do with you, it does give you a good sen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 04:21 PM |
| 5 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?Then it's even more of a compliment. It means you're attractive enough that a guy will torture himself and put on and act all night just to have a shot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 04:20 PM |
| 11 | What does the opposite gender think is flattering but actually isn’t?We want a woman who needs us for our dick, not for our money or value as a workhorse. Which is usually a fantasy unless you're either a really top-tier man, or shooting for really bottom-tier women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Would you agree that muscles and height is the male equivalent to ass and breasts?This is strangely true of the girl I’m seeing now. I finally feel like squats aren’t a waste of my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Why is being taken care of and provided for not seen as a privilege?Intelligence is just as much of a privilege; you’re right. That’s why splitting hairs on who has more “privilege” than who is a stupid meaningless fad, and I hope it dies out. As long as it stays socially acceptable to bitch all the time about other people’s privilege, there’s going to be endless cases of completely legitimate wahattaboutism like this one. It’s not a productive way to view the world. We teach 2 year olds that life isn’t fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Study done by a woman shows part of how women contribute to "toxic masculinity".This been the case in all of my adult relationships, including those that lasted multiple years and ended in cohabitation. Or at the very least that’s how it seemed. Showing vulnerability seem to have a directly negative effect on sex and attraction. HOWEVER, I imagine that’s in large part because I prioritize looks and finding women who want to have a lot of sex (and ideally throw some drugs in sometimes). Being a stupid shallow shithead is a good way to meet stupid shallow shithead girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/19 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Off Topic Thread: Stuff (13 April 2019)Takes away the soul crushing existential dread and depression that I usually constantly feel. I can go through my normal day and be relatively neutral, or even happy sometimes. It seems to make coffee stronger as well, and it’s a slight stimulant in and of itself. So needless to say, it also helps with ADHD, but only maybe 50% as well as adderall (but with 0% of the crash, which is more than a fair trade IMO). In general ashwagandha is an adaptogen. It’s supposed to balance out things like corti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/19 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Off Topic Thread: Stuff (13 April 2019)Just to add to this, if ADHD meds do help, you might want to also give Ashwagandha (ksm-66 formulation so it's standardized) a shot. I was on adderall and wellbutrin for years for depression/ADHD. Throughout the years I was also put on anti-anxiety drugs and some other stuff, since the drugs that fixed my original problems were causing problems of their own. Eventually it got pretty bad and I had to just get off of everything. Which was extremely rough. Now I still have to use adderall occasiona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/19 05:53 PM |
| 2 | How to show more affection to a girl your with?I’m curious — how far into the relationships are you when you get those comments? If you’re not overly affectionate right off the bat, it means a lot more when that affectionate relationship develops later. | /r/ExRedPill | 06/03/19 05:49 PM |
| 5 | How to show more affection to a girl your with?This is a great comment. I think another way to look at it is: true affection and emotional intimacy need to be earned. Not like a prize or a reward that you give for good behavior, but rather those are all things that naturally develop over time and as a result of mutual care and kindness. A lot of desperate “blue pill” guys will rush into those more intense stages because: they’re desperate for affection, they think that’s what girls want, or both. Red Pill bullshit overcorrects for that by ba… | /r/ExRedPill | 06/03/19 05:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackNope, you’re just a psycho who thinks everyone is a covert racist despite what they actually write. Pro-tip: Thinking you can see “the truth” despite what the words and reality in front of you are actually saying is very much psychotic thinking. You come off as a paranoid schizophrenic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 04:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackLook if you’re so worried about people being judgmental towards people who come off as thugs or creeps based on the way they present themselves, maybe just groom yourself well, dress decently, and don’t do creepy things. You’re never going to stop the world from making judgments about the way people present themselves and behave. That’s literally the only basis anyone has for feeling out the people around them. What do you think a job interview is? What about a date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 04:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackPlease see my other comment that I just wrote to you. I’m really not being disingenuous. It’s a fact of human psychology that everyone, everyone judges the situations they’re in and the people around them to feel out how safe they are. Everyone gets those gut feelings about the slimy conman used car salesman trying to sell them a lemon. The people who don’t get those feelings, or who ignore them? Those are the people that grifters call “marks”. If you didn’t constantly make these judgements, it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 03:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackYou don't seem to want to acknowledge my reasoning for it though, which I think says something about the validity of your position. Again, you’re levying an objectively false criticism against me. I already did just that yesterday when I specifically stated: racist people will call black people thugs just for being black, and that's not ok. That’s obviously horrible racism. People can try to disguise racism by falsely claiming principles like mine: “Oh I’m not judging because of his race, I’m ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/18 03:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackEveryone judges people. If you didn’t, you’d get taken advantage of all the time in life. How do you feel about neo-nazi biker gangs? They’re thugs who are detrimental to society. But I guess I’m worse than them because I judge criminal trash for what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 08:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackYou’ve made some serious assumptions about me that are completely inappropriate. The problem is that people like you see a black guy with tattoos walking around and assume he's a thug strait away. This discussion is over next time you levy an accusation like this against me. That’s extremely insulting and you’re being an asshole. It’s also absolutely false and not what I said. I said if a person of any race with face tattoos and baggy clothes was standing on a street corner mean mugging me I wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/18 08:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackJust because racists make that argument in bad faith doesn't mean it's not a valid argument when it's actually true. Would it be more appropriate to just use the word "trash" for criminals with no class? That way it has more white connotations. Though it shouldn't matter because it's supposed to be an insulting word for people who are detrimental to society. There are plenty of people who are genuine garbage in every race. Calling those people like you see them doesn't make you a racist. "Thug" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 10:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackYou FUKKIN creep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 10:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackIf you knew anything about racism, you'd know that's a common argument about why it's not ok to call a black person a thug. You basically get called a thug by people for acting black. It's a way to shame people into acting more "white" and giving up hundreds of years of culture and history in the process. Sure, racist people will call black people thugs just for being black, and that's not ok. But I don't care how stupid racists use the word - that doesn't mean it's racist to apply it when it's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 10:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Saying that a man looks creepy is just as sexist as saying a black person looks like a thug or a Mexican looks like a wetbackIf someone has face tattoos and baggy pants and is hanging around on the corner mean-mugging me, I'm going to fucking avoid them whether they're black, white, asian, whatever – they're presenting like a thug. If some guy is sketchily hanging out next to the women's bathroom in a trench coat, I'm gonna point him out to my female friend who's headed to the bathroom – he's presenting as a creep. If some girl is dancing around in just a thong at a bar, I'm going to try and initiate contact and escal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentI worked in a senors ward for a couple of years. The ones who smiled and seemed happy where not the 70 year olds who've been in four marriages and ended up in the twilight years alone. It was the goofy couples who still bicker and spend time together for the past fifty years. That's what I want more then anything. I don't deny this at all, and I wish I felt the same way you did about sex, because then it would be much easier to shoot for this. As it stands, I agree that finding your lifetime mat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentI think that way about most things in life. Except when it comes to sex in a committed relationship. For whatever reason, I just cannot handle the idea of my one sexual partner for the rest of my life always secretly preferring someone else. It’s also projection. Any time I’ve taken a step down in looks (like dated a girl worse looking than my best ex), I end up just missing my ex and resenting the new person for looking worse. I know it’s not their fault, and I never would tell them this or tre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentYeah that gets into my gradient of examples. It works the same with giving away immediate hot sex or throwing money: If the person made a mistake once or twice when they were figuring themselves out and it was a bad experience they learned from, fine. If it was a beneficial pattern (eg. giving away hot sex, showering them with money) they displayed towards past partners in general, they better display at least as much of it towards me too, or else, like you said “it IS just me”. If they genuinel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentDo you mind if I pick your brain? Respectful and articulate reds are rarer then not. Of course. I wouldn't call myself a Red by the way, way too much of their content is way too biased and solipsistic. I just updated the RGB code in my flair and I'd say it's pretty accurate: 175,0,75 Can I ask why you consider finding out a girl who made you wait but had casual sex once upon a time is life ruining? Or just extream sluttness? Because I'd agree. Those kinds of people are just too different from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentI guess, isn't the risk of not finding someone who meets your ideals and wants that kind of stable life with you also a big risk? I don't really see that as a risk. I see that as the potential winnings I give up by not gambling. This is a way more extreme example and I'm genuinely not trying to be snarky, but look at it like this: Is it a big "risk" to not play a $1MM game of Russian Roulette because you're "risking" not winning the money? Plus she's taking the same risk with you not being a man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentAnd don't take it personally, there is nobody on God's green earth I'd have sex with on a first date. Some people are just like that. If only there were a way to really truly know this about someone. For me, it's just not worth the risk of really falling for some girl who I thought "let me in" after a long time because I was special, only to find out secondhand that she banged some dude at a party the week before we met. I'm not a hardcore terp, so I don't even think it's probable that would hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 07:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men get commitment widowed just like women get 'alpha widowed'Women didn't shit on men, society (run and controlled by white men) has formed a structure that harms both men and women. It's a shame you had to throw in that tribalistic parenthetical. IMO, the more fundamental problem is that all animals, including human beings, are selfish and impulsive and flighty and solipsistic and don't know what will make them happy outside of the moment. It's not "the evil old white men's" fault. I'd take it a step further and say it's not "society's" fault at all. It'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 07:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men get commitment widowed just like women get 'alpha widowed'Just wanted to say this is a really good post – this is the kind of content that makes me come to this sub. You're coming at things from the other "side" than I am and actually making good arguments that have helped change my perspective. This is pretty much the only sub where that ever happens to anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How are these following articles about toxic masculinity attacking and blaming men?Yeah, I didn't give a shit about my image or what anyone thought of me at all until I hit puberty. Then, suddenly, the thing I wanted most was entirely contingent on how I came across to others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How much does "artifice" matter to you?When you were born, you did not understand English, but now you are typing sifficantly well. Same as you couldn't walk. Same as you couldn't count. These are all learned skills and behaviours. Holy shit, you're right... I never realized what a fucking faker I was. I need to get back to being my authentic helpless baby self. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 04:41 PM |
| 6 | What would happen if men acted collectively?Oh I’m a lazy piece of shit who would happily be a trophy wife/husband if that was an option for me, so I agree with you 100%. Personally, I would never ever fight for the "right" to be expected to work and earn things for myself. But I do recognize that some people have ambition and care about achieving things for themselves. Don’t understand it, but I do recognize it. If you were an ambitious person and society told you that you basically weren't allowed to accomplish anything, I can imagine t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 04:09 PM |
| 3 | What would happen if men acted collectively?bUt WhY wHeN u CoUlD jUsT cOoK, cLeAn, AnD fUcK aN uGlY rIcH mAn 4 ThE rEsT oF uR eXiStEnCe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentIt works. I mean, I guess “spend as little as possible” is an exaggeration. On the last one I spent 85, and let her cover the tip. She also gave me coke so that helped balance it out. But IMO, 85 bucks is not nearly enough money to hook a gold digger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/18 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentThat’s the point — I don’t continue seeing a girl if we don’t have sex on the first date (where I also spend as little on her as possible) to prevent exactly what you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 11:16 PM |
| 2 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentYeah, being in a semi-popular band though is a huge status boost to a young girl who knows of the band. You can’t discount that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Divine Providence tells you that your soulmate is some unattractive woman. What can she do to win you over?Note: I don’t believe in the idea of a soulmate, but for the purposes of this question let’s just say this woman has literally the perfect personality for me. eg. There’s literally nothing I don’t love about her behavior, beliefs, etc. How unattractive can she be This is a hard question to answer given the constraint that she has to be unattractive. IMO, it doesn’t really make much of a difference. Anything neutral (not visually arousing but not viscerally repulsive) or below creates kind of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentYeah that sounds like it took a decent amount of status plus an insane amount of luck. If I become the next Elon Musk, maybe I’ll hold out for my virgin whore. Short of that, I don’t need the “virgin” part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentThanks me too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:40 PM |
| 4 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentI feel like you live in a totally different universe than I do. It’s amazing there are people out there who think like you do — and I mean that in a good way. That’s why I love this sub. I’m too cynical and always write a girl off as not attracted to me if we don’t have sex on the first date, or at least get really close and have her reluctantly say she wants to hold off. Here’s hoping I was being way too hard on myself in those cases and those were just girls who take things slow. This has actu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentIt’s nice to see someone who is reasonable about this shit. I tend to lean mostly Red, but I really don’t understand guys who simultaneously want a girl to be (1) slutty towards them and (2) have no history/show no signs of being slutty. It’s like the male fantasy equivalent of the romance novel trope of the bad boy/sociopath who is cruel to everyone except the female protagonist. I guess everyone wants to be special, but at the end of the day, 99% of us aren’t the greatest catch in the world. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:26 PM |
| 3 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentThe game is rigged for everybody so don't start whining about it Alright, everyone pack up. Time to shut down the sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentHa, I never said it was easy. I’m not a natural. I just spend most of my waking non-work hours at the gym. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentNice, I didn’t think I had reached the level where I counted on the douche bro side of things. Guess I’m making progress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 08:56 PM |
| 1 | When guys watch porn, they imagine they are the girlWe are all hooker on this blessed day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Are sex differences in preferences for physical attractiveness and good earning capacity in potential mates smaller in countries with greater gender equality? This study finds they are not.You completely missed the point of the article, which was that these differences between men and women appear to be innate/genetic rather than in response to societal conditions/standards. If you already hold that belief (as I do), then it's probably not that groundbreaking for you. But it is an important piece of the discussion, as there are plenty of people who argue that behavioral differences and preference differences between the sexes are all due to society rather than nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentMen have just come to expect sexual interactions fairly soon and rejecting his advance often means an end to the chances of a relationship. This is also very true. If a girl isn't attracted enough to me where there's at least some kind of significant sexual interaction on the first date, I would definitely not continue the relationship. That would make me assume she's primarily interested in me for non-sexual reasons, and I'm not ok with that. Also, I feel like these days, hooking up is so norma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 06:40 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Baby It's Cold Outside is a perfect example of LMRMy favorite part is that women are the only ones who ever liked that song And men with taste 👌🏻 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 06:03 PM |
| 3 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentYeah, hooking up is extremely normalized now for any young person IMO. It’s genuinely surprising if I get to know someone of either gender and find out that they really have only slept with a couple people within the context of serious relationships. I don’t know how actively women are pressured by their friends to go hook up, but I think it’s more just subtle and pervasive in that it’s the general expectation for any “normal” “happy” “successful” young person to do that before they settle down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Women are most interested in engineers on Tinder, but men’s preferences are very differentI think I’m pretty normie - late 20s, been with 10 women, hooking up with a fuckbuddy from Tinder currently who is pretty hot but has some major issues, like a coke addiction. The women I get with tend to be hot but really messed up because I prioritize looks. Otherwise, I can land girls who are decent normal people but not physically attractive to me. Of course I also have all kinds of issues — I mean, I am posting in this sub after all — but not everyone here is that extreme in one direction o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 05:53 PM |
| 0 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsNah I’m not triggered, just calling out your dishonest comments. Again, I am very insecure, but it’s about the fact that I’ve only been with 10 girls. If I was a huge slut, it’d mean I was succeeding in my goals — I’m a guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/18 12:18 AM |
| 0 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsEh, I’m in an argument with an incel, so I don’t really have to worry about if I’m the asshole. You’ve got that role locked down. And I’m not VerySmart, you’re just VeryDumb. I’m not expressing complicated or advanced ideas; you’re just incapable of reading and understanding rudimentary logic, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 11:33 PM |
| 0 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsHonestly the one who seems "judgemental" here is you. How many dozens of personal insults have you thrown at me so far? Yes, I have no problems being honest about my judgements. I am judging you. You strike me as unintelligent and hopefully very young. Otherwise, you must have some sort of emotional/cognitive problems that stop you from actually thinking about things without clouding them with your complexes. I knew that disclaimer about judging you not for your virginity but rather for your dec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 10:57 PM |
| 2 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.I’ve always used the two terms interchangeably, but I guess fuckbuddy since we’ve fucked every time we’ve hung out and don’t have much of a friendship outside of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Did this couple settle?What if you can only attract crackheads with daddy issues ? Ha. That one hits closer to home than you can possibly imagine. Anyway, I completely agree with you. If the best that you can personally get is below your minimum standards, then you should stay single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 09:44 PM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsYep, that was my ex who didn't use Reddit much so we posted her GW stuff from our account. We also used to do Chaturbate sometimes for fun. Oh the horror! Of course I'm defending being more casual towards sex; it's in line with the values that are obviously displayed by my post history. You, on the other hand, claim to be non-judgmental despite clearly speaking in judgmental absolute terms. The fact that you're active on Braincels is very strong evidence that you have a lot of resentments toward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 09:23 PM |
| 3 | The DeclineHot tip to the racists downvoting that comment: Downvoting isn’t allowed here. I’m confused though... Since you’re genetically superior whites, shouldn’t you have the brainpower to understand the rules, and the moral fortitude to abide by them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 07:47 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Did this couple settle?Man, this is the kind of comment that I come to this sub for. Well put. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 07:18 PM |
| 6 | Discussion: Did this couple settle?Should you settle for less than your perfect imaginary dream partner? Of course, or else you'll never have a partner in reality at all! Yeah. Whether it's the bitter incel waiting for his insatiable virgin sex slave with a 5" waist and FFF boobs, or the angry fat radfem waiting for an underwear model/CEO who treats her like a queen, it's a pretty bad sign when people expect much more than "as good as I can personally get" out of a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 07:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV: High N count girls are high N count because they have unresolved issues.It is really weird, and I've always wondered about it. I'm assuming it's a weird bastardization of using n/N to denote sample/population size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What Appeals To You About A LTRIt really is such a relief to take a break for a while. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Why is NAWALT considered a bad response?That was 100% me for a few years until I realized I was prioritizing looks above all else and therefore picking girls with tons of issues. If your only concern is punching as far above your weight looks-wise as possible, you end up settling for some girls with extreme issues (well, unless you’re a physical 10 yourself). I mean, I haven’t changed that strategy at all (recognizing the pattern doesn’t make me desire actually hot girls any less) and therefore still end up getting with pretty emotion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Why is NAWALT considered a bad response?Not all woman are like that yet ALL redpill men are assholes. I love you guys, don't ever change. I tend to be more red than not, but I have to disagree with the point you’re sarcastically making. This isn’t a contradiction since one is a self-selecting group. It’s like saying “Not all men are bigots yet ALL KKK members are racists!?” It’s pretty fair to stereotype any group of people that self-selects on an ideological basis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 04:39 PM |
| 1 | What is the female sacrificial equivalent of a man giving up porn?Genuinely confused about what you two are getting at. I fucked a girl who I was friends with in high school but always too beta to make a move on, who I’ve seen once or twice since college. Our dynamic was completely unrecognizable compared to when we were back in high school. I’m now in good shape, make good money, and interact with everyone completely differently than when she knew me like a decade ago. It was very eye-opening to see how the same girl responded to me after all of these changes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 04:30 PM |
| 1 | What score did you get in this social intelligence test?31/36, 89th percentile I hate socializing and feel like I'm terrible at it, but I guess I'm usually a pretty good judge of what's going on with people; I can read them well, I just am very bad at responding accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 04:00 PM |
| 1 | What is the female sacrificial equivalent of a man giving up porn?Explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:37 PM |
| 1 | What is the female sacrificial equivalent of a man giving up porn?I prefer nerds who also workout. It's crazy how well this combination actually works, provided you also have good hygiene and know how to dress. That's one major thing that's weakened some of the Red Pill rhetoric for me - ever since I've started visibly getting in better shape, I've actually been able to get away with being myself (not a pushover, but not at all stereotypically TRP alpha). Because of the gym alone, girls are actually being more submissive, treating me like an attractive man, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:32 PM |
| 2 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsThat's not even remotely what happened; I didn't immediately say I win, I said let's agree to disagree after we had a few back and fourths and it was clear you weren't actually understanding what I was getting at. We were both wasting our time. Just looked at your post history though; that explains everything. I don't know how I expected to have anything resembling a logical discussion with an incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:18 PM |
| 2 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsYes, I tried to be civil (past tense in the comment you quoted) and just end the argument on a stalemate. You refused to end the argument, claiming the fact that I was trying to civilly end it was proof that I was "wrong but too immature to admit it". So the civility ended there. I hope you're just trolling, because you're really good at it. Otherwise, you literally couldn't follow logic as simple as, "I tried to be civil, but you were a dick and wouldn't take the olive branch, so fuck that, now… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 03:13 PM |
| 2 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsLook, I tried to be civil with you and stop arguing because you are literally too stupid to understand the concept of heavily loaded language that is full of value judgments. You're clearly talking shit, probably because you're insecure and jealous of the people who do have lots of sex, and then at the same time you're too much of a coward to actually stand behind the weird backwards value judgments that you do hold. You can't even commit to picking between the shitty attitudes of a blue pill pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 02:53 PM |
| 2 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsWhatever man, I agree to disagree that you’re judging. I just personally can’t imagine calling someone (or a group of people) irrational and unhealthy and then in the same comment claiming I’m not being judgmental. IMO, “irrational and unhealthy” are judgements/a way of shitting on people. But we’re different people. And trust me, I’m not insecure at all about my promiscuity. I wish I had enough of a sordid sexual past to be insecure about. I have gigantic insecurities, but they’re about the pol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/18 12:29 AM |
| 2 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these views“X is bad for reasons 1, 2, and 3. I’m not judging X.” “You are clearly judging X by virtue of the negative things you said about it.” “No I said I’m not judging it LMAO this is just like HAES people.” You’re an idiot who can’t follow my logic. I’m not insulting or judging you though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Thought experiment -- swap genders between a man and a woman, how do they fair in society?Why not dream that it was easier to make money instead of dream that you were content to have none? It literally makes 0 difference in this magical situation. Either I change "what I want" or change "what I have" so that the two become equal. As long as what I want == what I have, I've reached enlightenment. Really, I don't even know why you're arguing with me. I was just looking for something I could technically nitpick from the Grammar Nazi's comment, and that was one point for which I could t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 10:44 PM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsThe way you phrase things is full of obvious and clear value judgements. There's literally nothing wrong with that - that's a huge part of this sub. I just don't know why you keep trying to soften your stance with your bullshit disclaimers at the end of your posts. You're shitting on people who have casual sex by virtue of talking shit about the decision to have casual sex. Ending your post with "I said I personally was not shitting on those people." doesn't change that. Gizmos are filthy and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 10:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Thought experiment -- swap genders between a man and a woman, how do they fair in society?I don't know why you'd want those things. I don't want those things. I don't think anyone actually wants those things. Are you asking why I'd want to want those things? Simple: because then it would be extremely easy to get exactly what I want out of life, and there'd be a lot less pressure on me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Thought experiment -- swap genders between a man and a woman, how do they fair in society?Concern trolling at its finest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Thought experiment -- swap genders between a man and a woman, how do they fair in society?nobody wants to have lower aspirations Speak for yourself - I would love it if I could snap my fingers and instantly have super low standards for myself. Aspire to become trailer trash with an obese wife, and you can achieve your life goals much more easily. #argumentnazi | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 10:19 PM |
| 2 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.Yeah, no, she's just a typical "fun" chick who is 50% red flags by volume, not a raving homeless woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 10:09 PM |
| 2 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsYou're being intellectually dishonest. "If people don't share my preference on this, they're irrational and mentally diseased - not that there's anything wrong with that." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 10:07 PM |
| 1 | OP in /r/relationships thinks that his fiancee's sexual history of having orgies and sex in club toilets is shocking and can't imagine raising kids with her. Comments all shame him for these viewsYeah, that's kind of what you do if you're a rational healthy person. I mean, I'm not shitting on either life choice 🤔 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:59 PM |
| 2 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.Ok I had an alternative interpretation locked and loaded in case I was missing details, but these new details ruin that explanation as well. I thought maybe as a guy I could give insight into the mindset of guys... but this isn't a "guys' mindset" issue - it's a "genuinely crazy" issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:49 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.I wonder if in the case I was part of, this guy hadn't had much relationship experience, and saw it as a confirmation that he wasn't "good enough" for one or something. It was really weird, though--he made it VERY CLEAR he didn't want to be in a relationship with me, but he wanted ME to want that, I think? Then i got into a LTR with someone else and he freaked out a bit. Was the LTR that you got into with Guy2 an exclusive arrangement? I feel like you're looking at this from a woman's perspectiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: If you were a man, what would be your dating strategy? How would you present yourself?I've gotten more compliments on my cologne from women than anything else. By a huge margin. When I started wearing good cologne, I started actually managing to have casual sex. I feel like good cologne is honestly one of the single most important factors, and no one talks about it enough at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: If you were a man, what would be your dating strategy? How would you present yourself?Women are frequently attracted to 'don't give a shit'. Playing friendly, OTOH, has never got me laid once. I don't think 'friendly' and 'don't give a shit' are mutually exclusive, at all. I mean, I'm a pothead so I have both of those in spades. I never avoid disagreeing with anyone or speaking my mind, but I'm an extremely friendly/warm guy. Drugs always help me pull girls (I mean like if I take any drugs before going out) because they ramp up 'don't give a shit' to the nth degree. But they don'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: If you were a man, what would be your dating strategy? How would you present yourself?How the fuck have I never seen anyone reference this book, ever, in my years of off-and-on involvement in this retarded debate? That's an amazing quote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 08:56 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.Oh, the ones I'm thinking of were socially weird for sure. I mean, they weren't like hardcore autistic freaks, they just weren't normal social people. Definitely not the frat bro type. I dunno, I feel like Howard Roark is too anti-social to be a perfect example, but think Howard Roark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Do men and women project what attracts them on each other?How does your response: I don't like fat women Have anything to do with the desirability of a thin man vs. a thin women? What the fuck man hahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 08:21 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.What the hell dude? You comment on my post whining about how I have a FWB but you can't get a girl to go to coffee with you, I try to make you feel better by explaining how I did it, and then you write a long response telling me what to do? I'm not willing to get in a relationship with a woman who's more messed up than I am. My plate has more shit than I can stomach on it already, don't need an extra heap of it. That's the magic of casual flings. This girl's shit stays off of my plate. (Famous l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 07:33 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.I live in a major city (like one of the biggest 3 in America), subscribed to Tinder gold, and literally swiped through *every girl* in my city. Then every day I would go in and swipe through whatever new cards popped up. After 2 months, I went on one date with a shitty girl who wouldn't even touch me, and then met this girl. She's a hardcore coke addict, messed up family, doesn't respond for days at a time, etc. I don't really care about the red flags cause I'm a hardcore pot head and I'm not lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 07:01 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.It doesn't make you feel weird that she doesn't seem to want to be your girlfriend? No, not at all, I don't want to be her boyfriend. We're very very different people. We have good sex, but I don't think we'd be a good couple. It's not insulting or hurtful to me that she can recognize that too. I've spent most of my adult life in committed relationships but I've only slept with 10 girls (and half of those were girlfriends). Hence, I see myself as major boyfriend material. I'm good at maintaining… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Radical feminism and traditionalism: a snake biting its own tail.I don't know specifically which "scholar" wrote/said it, but years ago I dated a self-described radical feminist who went to Vassar, and she read me parts of some famous paper that made that exact point: all PIV man-on-woman sex is rape. I remember it clearly because even my psycho extremist radfem ex thought that was one of the stupidest things she'd read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:42 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.A girl who I can get fucked up with and have lots of sex with every week or so (with no investment or jumping through hoops) is pretty much the definition of my perfect FWB. I would have thought it was an unrealistic ask if I hadn't somehow landed that exact situation. She comes over and we have a couple drinks and smoke up and hang out for a while then have sex on and off for the rest of the night. Her being crazy doesn’t hurt any of that. (I mean, she’s not like a psychotic person, she just ob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:34 PM |
| 2 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.Thanks! It's been a good discussion. I think I used to feel like you (always looking for "the big one"), until I had a couple of serious multi-year adult relationships. In each case, I thought that person was THE ONE, at least at some points, and I was completely wrong. I'm also a completely different person now than I was in my last relationship, and I was a completely different person in the relationship before that. That's just a function of age, and now that I'm getting to my later 20s, thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:26 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.No way, this current FWB started off as a Tinder match, and she’s amazing. She’s way too crazy for a relationship, but she’s a pretty ideal FWB: down to drive our to my place half an hour away, always has tons of weed and dabs and coke she’s willing to give me, great body, zero pressure to take her out or spend any money... I keep waiting to figure out what the catch is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:17 PM |
| 3 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.Sure, but both were dramatic narcissistic girls with deep emotional problems who went out of their way to put up a calculated front of being "drama free", "laid back", and specifically talked about not being like "all the other dumb dramatic bitches". I'm not talking about kind of passively putting off vibes, these girls would go out of their way to specifically talk about the kind of people they were and represent themselves as almost polar opposites of reality in that sense. One major tactic I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 06:05 PM |
| 2 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.Wouldn't you prefer to spend that time meeting the person you're going to spend your life with, and starting to build that life? If it's gotta be one or the other, then no. I would rather spend my 20s-early 30s having lots of meaningless sex and then focus on finding a serious partner. However, my whole point is that I don't think it should be just one or the other. I'm trying to find someone who can be both! It's just a much much more difficult game to try and find the whole package. OK, when I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 05:59 PM |
| 9 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.Life isn't a tv show. This should be mentioned in 99% of the comments on this sub. It seems stupid and obvious, but it took me years to realize how much of my expectations around sex/dating came from televised trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 05:44 PM |
| 1 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.I know this happens, but I genuinely don't think it's as often as guys believe it is. I don't know if I'm just profoundly retarded, but that's exactly how my last two serious relationships (I'm talking multiple-year, living together) got started. The girls were extremely laid back, low drama, let me basically say/do anything, and then once I committed, they very gradually did complete 180s. Both of them ended up being extreme dramatic psychos who I had to dump. My new FWB seems even more low-dra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 05:35 PM |
| 4 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.I agree entirely with 99% of what you said. We all age, and honestly down the line it’s not going to matter what we look like. In finding a life partner, the personality side is going to be more important for more total years, assuming you and your partner stay together and both live a long time. However, for the time being, sex is extremely important to me. So someone with whom “I can enjoy life” is by necessity someone with whom I can have lots and lots of great sex. I’m in my late 20s. I’m st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 05:19 PM |
| 6 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.If you think hotness is going to make up for a bad personality over the course of five or ten years, you need to evaluate whether or not you've ever built something with another person that lasted five or more years. If you think a great personality is going to make up for ugliness over the course of five or ten years, you need to evaluate whether or not you've ever built something with another person that lasted five or more years. It cuts both ways. Both factors are vital for a truly fulfillin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 04:59 PM |
| 3 | I see people here say women avoid players/hot guys for relationships because of the risk. I see little evidence of that in real life.CEOs and other Chiefs have to prove their skill in the craft, which normally means some kind of freak (workaholic or some other kind of freak, not exactly a studious nerd) This is beyond true. I've worked at a few companies, and in every case the CEO/Founder/Owner/Whatever is weird as fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/18 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you really all aspire to look like this?The vast majority of female models aimed at women tend to have bland almost boyish bodies and rely on their face and other tricks to create appeal to men. Miranda Kerr's body is fairly forgettable to a lot of men. She's certainly very attractive and many men find her ideal, but she's a reasonable distance away from most men's ideal body shape. Speak for yourself. I'm a man, and I wish there were more supermodel/VS type builds in porn. I think VS models are the ideal body type, and I've always be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/18 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: How often do attractive women get hit on offline?As someone who can get in-person 6s and basically nothing above that, I would gladly take an 8 from Tinder. Gladly. For a hookup, looks are 110% of what matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/18 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Research into hypergamy doesn’t replicate. Original researcher declares his own theory is probably not true and that the studies based on his theory are now garbage.Man you’re rarted. A much better hypothetical counterexample would be “I’m a guy and I’ve never had a wet dream, so wet dreams don’t exist.” Even that isn’t quite perfect, but it’s a lot closer than yours. For the record, I’m more Red than Blue, you’re just making really poor arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Research into hypergamy doesn’t replicate. Original researcher declares his own theory is probably not true and that the studies based on his theory are now garbage.Man you’re rarted. A claim that would work as a much better counterpoint than your bad examples would be “I’m a guy and I’ve never had a wet dream, so wet dreams don’t exist.” Even that isn’t quite perfect, but it’s a lot closer than yours. For the record, I’m more Red than Blue, you just are making really poor arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 10:26 PM |
| 8 | Research into hypergamy doesn’t replicate. Original researcher declares his own theory is probably not true and that the studies based on his theory are now garbage.There are issues with the comment you’re replying to (like the fact that so much of attraction is due to factors we ourselves aren’t even aware of), but the hypothetical points you made are not analogous at all to her claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 08:45 PM |
| 1 | If you want a good gauge of the SMP, try catfishing.Just stop bitching and do it. I broke up with my hot but insanely dysfunctional girlfriend 2 months ago. She had relapsed on heroin after 3 years of being clean/3 years of us being together, and I wasn’t going to go through that. I’m no Chad, so aside from losing a girl I really cared about, the anxiety of “what do I do now?!” really destroyed me. Anyway I spent the next month feeling sorry for myself, thinking “What next? I can either get a boring looking girl who actually knows how to live lif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/18 02:51 PM |
| 1 | We should listen to opposite sex about what is attractive and not projections from our own genders.Heavy, even slutty, makeup is great/ideal as long as the girl has a good enough face to begin with and it’s done well. The problem is a lot of girls can’t do it that well. I prefer a natural look to badly executed heavy makeup any day though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4women:Would you cheat on your normal/ugly looking SO with a much more attractive male than him?Also do you only fantasize about conventionally attractive men?If I was married or dating someone who I thought I was probably going to marry, then no. If I was dating a girl but thought we weren’t going to end up together forever and a super hot woman (hotter than I’d ever been with) wanted to sleep with me once, I would definitely break up with my girlfriend in order to do it. Cheating is potentially worse than killing someone in my mind, so I would never do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Will most bluepillers always keep rejecting hard scientific evidence?Approaching 20 women and getting a further interaction from one of them Oh wow that's what you meant by success rate? Never mind my saying that seemed high, I totally misinterpreted what you meant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Will most bluepillers always keep rejecting hard scientific evidence?Duly noted. I've actually considered trying to do low dose test for a while now. I got my test levels checked at my last yearly checkup and they were in the top half of the "normal" range for my age, but only like 60th percentile. The doctor wasn't willing to give me (a guy in his 20s) hormone therapy to get me to the top of the range, but I figured I could always get on the dark web and figure it out myself - lord knows I've done that with other substances. Also, I figure as long as I don't get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Will most bluepillers always keep rejecting hard scientific evidence?Like take some low dose test for the face gains? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:25 PM |
| 2 | Will most bluepillers always keep rejecting hard scientific evidence?Anything less than chance for a success rate and TRP is actually looking at a method for dating that hurts their chances. How do you define the baseline "chance" though in this case? The chance of hooking up with someone if you sit still and do nothing? I guess you could say that "chance" would be the success rate of the same guy if he had never encountered TRP. But what about guys who have no clue how to approach or hit on women to begin with. Their baseline "chance" is essentially zero, and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: How often do attractive women get hit on offline?Get top 10%? What does that mean | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/18 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How often do attractive women get hit on offline?You are sorely mistaken if you think anyone - male of female - would prefer meeting a chad or Stacy online compared to a real life interaction with someone from a less SMV In the context of this post, it's about the fact that these girls know they could hook up with a hot guy if they just swiped on Tinder for a few minutes. And as a male, I would definitely rather hook up with a "Stacy" I met on Tinder than a less hot girl I met in real life. I don't even understand why the way you met would be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill: How to find a Non Hypergamous womanI’m genuinely confused by this comment. If someone is worried about their mate being hypergamous, doesn’t that by definition mean they don’t consider themselves better than other people? I mean, if you thought you were better than everyone, hypergamy wouldn’t worry you, as you’d expect it to work in your favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill: How to find a Non Hypergamous womanI’m genuinely confused by this comment. If someone is worried about their mate being hypergamous, doesn’t that by definition mean they don’t consider themselves better than other people? I mean, if you thought you were better than everyone, hypergamy wouldn’t worry you, as you’d expect it to work in your favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Question for bluepill: How to find a Non Hypergamous womanI’m genuinely confused by this comment. If someone is worried about their mate being hypergamous, doesn’t that by definition mean they don’t consider themselves better than other people? I mean, if you thought you were better than everyone, hypergamy wouldn’t worry you, as you’d expect it to work in your favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do You Consider Yourself Fun to Be Around?Steppin out the doodoo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/18 03:30 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of women actually go for their looksmatch?I was always taught that too. My parents raised me with really solid values and I was always told that the most important things were honesty, kindness, etc. None of that has any bearing on who I want to fuck though. That’d be like trying to convince someone that their favorite food tastes bad. I would love to have sexual urges towards girls based on the strength of their character, but my penis isn’t exactly great at listening when I try to explain that to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 10:12 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of women actually go for their looksmatch?Well, I’m a pretty average looking guy. Not hot enough to casually sleep with hot girls. (I casually slept with one genuinely hot girl once, but we had been close friends for 15 years). However, I’m decent looking enough where I can lock down the hot crazy girls if I commit to them and emotionally support them despite their issues. But those become super intense relationships, and I tend to catch feelings as well, so I’m not exactly on the look out for someone else while that’s going on. And fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 09:03 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of women actually go for their looksmatch?That sounds like a much better way to be, honestly. I hate it how sexual attraction is immediate and basically overrules everything else. There's nothing worse than absolutely hating a girl but knowing I would kill my first child for a chance to sleep with her. Like I said, this has resulted in multiple multi-year tumultuous relationships that I've stayed in mostly for the sex, but I've weighed the cost-benefit and it does seem worth it. I mean, there isn't a whole lot that's worth more than goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 08:35 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of women actually go for their looksmatch?I've never ever experienced the first kind. I can't even fathom the second kind – though I would prefer to feel that way. It'd be a lot easier if anything besides looks factored into what girls I wanted to have sex with. Either a girl looks good enough where I feel 'must fuck now', or she doesn't. How I feel about her as a person is a totally separate ballgame. I guess an absolutely disgusting personality could probably kill that attraction, but I don't think the reverse is true. I've never met … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/18 06:28 PM |
| 0 | Could need some insights (Ranty)Try reading (or listening to the audio book of) Models by Mark Manson. It’s a good sort of PUA book that focuses more on showing vulnerability and being yourself while still being attractive. I highly recommend. It’s a good alternative to the toxicity of red pill while still giving realistic and actionable advice. | /r/ExRedPill | 08/08/18 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Not specifically directed at redpill (TRP, MRP, RPW, etc) philosophy, but I'm certain it belongs here and applies.BUT MY DREA- | /r/ExRedPill | 24/08/17 02:58 AM |
| 2 | [Discussion] What this sub is for?This is exactly the point I was trying to make by putting "misunderstandings" in quotes - you did it a lot more eloquently though! What I was saying is that due to both your points A and B, it can be counterproductive for new detoxers to see posts from "outsiders" bashing the red pill. Their criticisms are valid, but TRP has built a framework where that validity just won't be considered. I don't think it does that much damage to the healing process, but it's really not helpful hearing from peopl… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/06/17 08:30 PM |
| 4 | [Discussion] What this sub is for?It just seems like a distinctly different topic: How to fight back/change someone's mind vs. how to get free of it once you've decided you want to get "clean" from the Red Pill poisoning. It also activates some Red Pill us v them conditioning. Part of red pill brainwashing is the "fact" that outsiders don't understand red pill and are the enemy. When people are still in the early detox stages, hearing dissent from people who don't actually understand TRP could activate some of that conditioned r… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/06/17 01:06 AM |
| 4 | Rape culture is an actual thing.This is a pretty off-topic post, seems more like an angry personal rant than any kind of resource for detoxing from TRP | /r/ExRedPill | 16/06/17 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Do men have emotions like women have emotions?I accept that the best of sex comes when you're younger. While I'm still young and attractive enough to have sex with young and attractive women, that'll be a priority. I'm completely open to serious relationships, but that major attraction piece has to be there. If I age along with someone, attraction will level and drop off. Thats fine. I'm not going to be in my 20s-30s forever. But while I am, I'm not going to miss out on one of the best parts. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/05/17 07:03 PM |
| 3 | Do men have emotions like women have emotions?Yeah of course! Like I said, sex is incredibly important to me, and I don't enjoy it much with average looking women (even though I've detoxed from porn and TRP for 2+ years). It's like living exclusively off of Soylent, or stale bread. That's still food, but you miss the joys of eating things that you truly enjoy/crave. Sex with a non-exciting looking woman is still sex, but it's completely unsatisfying. It's like a shadow of what sex should be (fucking someone I'm really attracted to). Without… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/05/17 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Do men have emotions like women have emotions?Diggin the Jungian angle! | /r/ExRedPill | 10/05/17 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Do men have emotions like women have emotions?Man, I'm jealous you see it this way. Even before Red Pill I never felt like that. Sex is just so important to me, and I find it pretty pointless unless the girl is HOT. My relationship satisfaction has always been in a pretty direct correlation with the hotness of the girl. I much preferred the ones who were hotter to the ones I got along with more, because sex with a very attractive woman is something that's so important to me. Taking it another step further, I even prefer looks to skills in b… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/05/17 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Can't seem to think women are equalThe fact that frat parties have ratio in order for men to get in shows theres more women partying in greek life. This is the opposite of logical. The frats need to put effort into maintaining the ratio specifically because there are more guys than girls partying. They need to keep guys out until there are enough girls. If they didn't do this, it would be a sausage fest - all guys. I've never ever seen a frat turn a girl away because "Hey we just have too many girls in here right now, we gotta ge… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/05/17 04:42 PM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on Woman's LoveIf that happens either she was deeply unsatisfied in the relationship or she was just a piece of shit (in which case you're better off her) or some combination of both. To be fair, she's a piece of shit regardless. Being deeply unsatisfied is never an excuse to cheat because there is no excuse to cheat. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/17 04:12 PM |
| 5 | Ask yourself: Do you really have results with TRP?Thanks! I wish there was a different sub where you could discuss attraction in a logical manner (even if it sometimes isn't PC) I think r/punchingmorpheus is good for that, but it's also so inactive that it's barely worth checking out. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/17 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Are men drawn to red pill innately "bad" people?I think TRP tends to suck in a lot of overly sensitive overly empathetic pushover guys rather than sociopaths who already align with TRP ideas. TRP is a perfect trap for guys who give too much, are too insecure to set boundaries, etc and who have ended up being taken advantage of. That was definitely the case for me. I was a total pushover, but I was a super nice guy. And in the genuine way, not the Nice Guys™ way. I just was never aggressive or confrontational with anyone, and I generally assum… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/05/17 03:32 PM |
| 2 | My feelings on my current relationshipYep, agree with all of this. That's also a general thing I've realized since TRP: Maybe I'm being lied to - ok, fine. That's literally always going to be the case, with every human interaction for the rest of my life. Don't be a sucker, don't give things away, but you can't assume everyone is a con artist. Especially in personal relationships. Unless you're George Bluth, why would a woman con you into a relationship? I'm sure as fuck not offering a bunch of money or resources to the women I date… | /r/ExRedPill | 05/04/17 02:08 AM |
| 2 | My feelings on my current relationshipMan, I'm 26 and in the third year of my relationship and I can identify with this all too well. For me, the longer time goes on, the more my paranoia goes away. It's the same thing for me: I'm paranoid she's lied to minimize her past. In my case, I'm not really concerned with past numbers, but the idea of her having this secret past on the "cock carousel" and trying to hide it really got to me. Note: She doesn't have a secret past; I have no reason aside from TRP paranoia to think she does, anyw… | /r/ExRedPill | 04/04/17 09:21 PM |
| 1 | I've never really bought into TRP anger, but I feel like there are fundamental issues with American gender dynamics, and I don't know how to feel.Mark Manson if he hasn't been recommended to you yet. Particularly his book Models. I loved the audiobook - the narration is a little rough around the edges, but he does a good casual job with it. | /r/ExRedPill | 04/04/17 09:04 PM |
| 2 | I've never really bought into TRP anger, but I feel like there are fundamental issues with American gender dynamics, and I don't know how to feel.Stoic | /r/ExRedPill | 04/04/17 09:01 PM |
| 3 | My fiancé is leaning alt-right in general... advice?I was hoping to get advice on how to turn him around. The best advice on how to turn someone around is simple: don't. It's much easier to find someone new who is already someone you want to be with. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/03/17 06:29 PM |
| 3 | My fiancé is leaning alt-right in general... advice?It's pretty clear that you two have extremely incompatible worldviews. You both deserve to be with someone whose worldview isn't repulsive and antithetical to your own. I dated a radical Vassar feminist for a couple of years, and I also did the "she's not really a feminist" thing, even though she was hardcore and identified as such. It was a really drastic case - most of the feminists I know now consider her to be very extreme. Anyway, I don't think feminists are evil scum or anything, but I'm d… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/03/17 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4RPMEN: Why does fat/ugly women getting attention from men make some guys so pissed off?Hmmm that does put things in a different light, good point. I guess it's just a spectrum rather than a black/white easy rule, like most things. Mutually beneficial: A young Thai woman living in a nice house in America and having everything provided for her in exchange for being with a somewhat selfish but nice enough old guy. Exploitative: The situation I just mentioned but with a cruel husband who feels like he owns the woman and treats her accordingly. No physical abuse necessary, it's more ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/17 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4RPMEN: Why does fat/ugly women getting attention from men make some guys so pissed off?I draw the line at beating, no one has the right to hurt another person (aside from self-defense or maybe revenge in extreme cases - say if someone molested your child, I'd take no moral issue with you torturing/murdering that person). However, assuming the guy isn't a violent sociopath, she still comes out ahead. If she gets s divorce before a certain number of years she has to go back to her terrible country, so she basically has to put up with however he treats her. Doesn't this, by definitio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/17 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Q4RPM: Which of these women would you find most attractive?For a one night stand, the runway model, but only by a slight margin. It doesn't really matter. Her career, intelligence, etc. won't affect the sex, but fucking a runway model is a nice little point of validation. Really, looks and sexual prowess/enthusiasm are all that matter for a one night stand (aside from safety issues like if she has herpes, is likely to falsely accuse you of rape, etc.). For an LTR, definitely the artist. I love art, and I respect artists immensely. Really successful arti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/17 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4RPMEN: Why does fat/ugly women getting attention from men make some guys so pissed off?Yes, it's so unfair that she's provided for (and in many cases gets a green card), but she has to occasionally have sex with an old guy to get those trivial and meaningless benefits. He might even expect her to clean up around the house!! Such abuse! What horror! Would you really argue that some young Thai woman who comes to the US and ends up married to a rich old dude is getting the short end of the stick? Is it preferable to stay in an impoverished country? Is it preferable to barely scrape b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/17 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Study: Gamers Are Having More Sex Than 'Gym Goers'This is actually in-line with my experience, but mostly because of convenience and connection. I've had times in life (usually when I'm single) where I go to the gym most week nights every week, but I've also been a geeky gamer since I was a kid on and off. I've been living with my girlfriend for 2 years, and during the periods of time when I get disciplined and start going to the gym most days, sex drops off a bit more. But in my lazy periods, usually I we end up having sex every day - makes it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/17 12:10 AM |
| 1 | The reason RPers and BPers clash so much is they're both after completely different things.I've been on here for years. The mythical times you're referring to are pure myth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/17 12:54 AM |
| 3 | Deconstructing porn habits and the lust for mom-sex via Pornhub's YIRgoogle "SSRIs" they are very effective. Or actually research them and read some of the evidence-based backlash from respected psychiatrists to get a more balanced view. A quick google search probably would tell you they were effective. Of course, that's according to very sparse evidence selectively pulled out of a million big pharma-backed studies to get the drugs approved. Do you have any idea how many more of those trials didn't support the meds working? Meta-analyses of those studies have sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Tinder reveals the 13 most right-swiped men and women on the app in the UK | Daily Mail Online"Watch Peep Show and you'll basically learn it all." This doesn't even need context. It's a very broadly true statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 01:02 AM |
| 1 | Tinder reveals the 13 most right-swiped men and women on the app in the UK | Daily Mail OnlineI'm not the guy who's post you fixed, but that pretty much perfectly describes my type (or at least the girls I end up dating) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 12:59 AM |
| 1 | Happy this sub existsVery sound advice - luckily I'm not married and never was, that was a girlfriend. It's more about what that experience "taught" me about relationships, my place in the world, the realization that you can never truly trust anyone no matter what you're feeling about them, etc. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/12/16 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Happy this sub existsIf that happened, it would be a one way trip out of my life, full stop. That's how I used to feel. Then it happened. And for the last few years since that, I still haven't recovered. I always felt like if I was providing for someone and being kind and having fun together and thinking everything was great between us, that kind of horrible shit wouldn't happen. Then it did and I was gaslighted and manipulated to the point where it was obviously going on for weeks but I thought I was being paranoid… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/12/16 07:56 PM |
| 5 | Happy this sub existsYeah, I have a BS in Psychology so I'm well-versed in the shitty feedback loops that comprise the human experience. Impressive, I know. Clearly I have a real mastery of psychology. That must be why I was drawn into an online cult. /s | /r/ExRedPill | 06/12/16 04:33 PM |
| 7 | Happy this sub existsI always laughed at the guys that bought the full package and thought that protected me, but TRP is as toxic and insidious as lead in the water. I can definitely identify with your whole post (I'm sure a lot of guys here can, that is the idea), but this line resonated with me. I was exactly the same way. I actually never got to the point where I bought all of it hook, line, and sinker. But even that 50% of the pill that I did swallow became so ingrained in my thinking that I still struggle with … | /r/ExRedPill | 06/12/16 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Why Red Pill is a Cult - Part 2 (Based on Mark Manson's writings)Glad to hear it! | /r/ExRedPill | 03/12/16 01:00 AM |
| 2 | Why do men prefer women who shave their armpits and legs?Me. I'm looking at my girlfriend's butthole (among other fun things back/down there) for at least a handful of minutes every day, probably around 15 minutes/day on average. That's a couple hours a week. Definitely enough to have a preference. Honestly, doesn't everyone who has sex regularly (or watches porn) see buttholes enough to know what they prefer? Anyway, I would be very turned off if it was hairy. That's not to say girls should shave by any means - my preferences don't matter at all, unl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/16 06:48 PM |
| 3 | What happened in your life that led to you developing confidence?Yikes, sorry to hear that. That's always terrified me - I always grew my own shrooms and basically stuck to those and weed when I was more druggy. Powders and home-pressed pills seemed like Russian roulette (though I'd be lying if I said I didn't venture that way once or twice). Even in those cases I stuck to extremely established and reputable vendors on the deep web. As someone who has small-time dealt at points, I definitely do not trust dealers. Especially ones who traffic in more intense ch… | /r/seduction | 10/05/16 05:57 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Stole someone's date accidentallyThis was my takeaway from the post as well. OP handled himself well and there are lessons to be learned, but mainly I just came away from it feeling like this girl was pretty shitty | /r/seduction | 08/05/16 05:18 PM |
| 21 | I'm starting to think girls don't like good guysWome really does know his stuff | /r/seduction | 27/04/16 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Seducing girl with BF, who already thinks I'm awesomeLooks like you were right. Too bad, there was some real absurd humor in his response to me about how him and his friends have all stolen long time girlfriends from each other with no hard feelings whatsoever | /r/seduction | 20/04/16 07:05 PM |
| 3 | Seducing girl with BF, who already thinks I'm awesomethe hang-out session was pretty good, minus the fact that she mentioned her BF quite a few times. Take a hint. Looks like her BF found a good one who is loyal and can smell the scumbag intent on you. | /r/seduction | 20/04/16 05:50 PM |
| 1 | New here. I read the "Looks don't matter" sidebar material and I'm not sold at all. CMV, I guess.If it makes you feel any better, being average looking and short doesn't get you all that much sex, and it definitely doesn't get you sex with dime pieces. All of that advice comes from the life of someone who can pick up average looking girls, occasionally slightly hot ones, but thanks to the wonderful human brain, I've had those thoughts so so often. If only I could have the life of a tall great looking guy, fuck an endless stream of hot model caliber girls. I know that it seems ungrateful to … | /r/seduction | 14/04/16 03:41 AM |
| -1 | New here. I read the "Looks don't matter" sidebar material and I'm not sold at all. CMV, I guess.As a song in the home of Jesse Pinkman once said, money money money money. You could lower your standards, but I know that being ugly doesn't make ugly girls any more attractive to you. You were dealt a shit hand. When it comes to LTRs, finding a life partner, you'll definitely be able to find someone. Will she be a hottie? If what you say is true and not an exaggeration, then probably not. But if you're looking for sex with hot girls... You can always buy it. Be smart, make sure they're reviewe… | /r/seduction | 14/04/16 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?Yeah, I tried TBP to break the mental trap, and it actually just made things worse. It makes TRP almost look more justified. Then you realize they're just extremists in the opposite direction and not representative of anything. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 11:18 PM |
| 2 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAI can't find much of anything on sex/gender by this guy, so I'm not sure if Blue Pill describes it correctly. I'm willing to go down this rabbit hole and answer a few questions. If nothing else, it's better than having him talk to someone who swung the pendulum way too far the other way and went Blue Pill. I'm more along the "RP has some good points, but the community is toxic and their rhetoric is too extreme" camp. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAI just tried, but unfortunately it bounced. Here's the error message I got: Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient address: [email protected] Reason: Illegal host/domain name found | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 04:57 PM |
| 8 | How is MGTOW viewed by exredpill/purple pill?That picture. Oh my god. I don't even. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 03:30 PM |
| 3 | Journalist looking to interview a reformed MRAI'm a detoxed ex-RedPiller and I'm happy to share, but that's a little different. Let me know if you're interested. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 02:09 PM |
| 16 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?I'll admit, it just occurred to me that the fact that it was so poorly hidden (his gchat which is logged in on my computer, his reddit history, also logged in) indicate that he didn't really realize he was playing with fire here. This is important. It sounds like he wasn't trying to be deceptive, at least you've given us no examples. Do you remember any specifics that you saw from the chats? Or any ways in which his behavior has changed recently? Like I keep saying, we need more specifics. He co… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?I agree. It's been almost a year for me as well, but I think /r/punchingmorpheus, this sub, and a health dose of /r/lesswrong have helped me realize the extremist falacies of TRP behind and see the cult brainwashing for what it was. Do you understand the TBP plugs here? As someone who went through it? Or do you smell brigading as well? | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?I don't know why I just thought of this so late in the game, but you should post this to /r/punchingmorpheus. As the name implies, it's an all together anti-pill sub. The overriding philosophy there is that every relationship is unique and finding an honest relationship with someone you truly love is the goal. Hence the name, it comes from an anti-red pill post that goes back to the matrix metaphor that all the pill nonsense is based on: Morpheus is offering you a choice between the red pill and… | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 01:43 PM |
| 5 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?Why is this being downvoted? The first half of this post is a fact. The bitter thing is an opinion (and I think painting in too broad of strokes), but a satire sub is not a great place for constructive anything. It's like reading the onion for the news. I get that this sub is anti-RP. Hell, I'm anti-RP, and it did some mental damage to me. But we don't know really anything about this situation, and sending her to TBP could easily destroy this marriage further by adding fuel to the fire. We need … | /r/ExRedPill | 11/04/16 12:54 PM |
| 14 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?For further clarification, I'm a guy who bought into TRP a little too much (and have since left that shitpit and nonsense philosophy in the garbage), but for me it manifested as worry and working out all the time and trying to act a bit more confident and emotionally stable. I never tried to make my girlfriend insecure, never considered even slight hints of infidelity like flirting with other girls, etc. I love my girlfriend and I've been with her for a long time, but things in my past have made… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/04/16 08:25 PM |
| 5 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?I disagree with this. I would bet they're going to be reactionary and tell her to dump him off the bat. This sub has more guys who have gone through it and genuinely understand TRP, and I think it has a good range of guys too - some that dipped their toes and some that dove in head first. Blue pill will just act like this guy is beating her and abusing her by default, and that's not fair to her or her SO. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/04/16 08:12 PM |
| 4 | Found my husband's red pill readings- how do I build trust again?This is an amazing post. You need to tell us more about how he's been acting, how the relationship has been going. Has he been getting into better shape, or has he been commenting about other women? Has he been distant, or has he been more driven towards his goals? Has there been any noticeable difference in anything with him and your relationship? Red Pill is a toxic community, and a lot (/most) of the ideas are worthless, but from what you've told us, you're over-reacting. So far, all we know … | /r/ExRedPill | 10/04/16 08:09 PM |
| 3 | I feel like you got to say everything right to a girl or else she dosent like youI can't be the only one who thought of Walter White talking about how there must be some combination of words to explain everything to his family to make them understand when I read this comment... Right? | /r/seduction | 01/04/16 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Seduction Just Blew Up In My FaceIf you can't get what you want without lying, you're not good enough at what you do. Think of it this way: when you lie, you've essentially started playing a character - a character that has a lot of overlap with you, but a character nonetheless. So you're not having these experiences, you're not getting these girls, some made up person is. And maybe you can even trick yourself into thinking you are this invented and false "person"... Until you're found out. As soon as a lie is discovered, both … | /r/seduction | 30/03/16 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Seduction Just Blew Up In My FaceOh man, looks like Reverend Garbage is a new fixture here. I don't know why but this is fascinating to me. | /r/seduction | 29/03/16 11:53 PM |
| 2 | I can't be secure in relationships with attractive women because I always feel they can do betterReverend Garbage, This is terrible and you should feel terrible. Holy shit, in the more literal sense. If this nonsense somehow seems reasonable to anyone, I suggest checking out /r/sex and /r/relationships and finding some posts about couples with irreconcilable sexual incompatibility. The ones where the couples were each other's firsts/waited until marriage are heartbreaking. They're stuck choosing between leaving the person they love, having an unsatisfying sex life, or chancing the often dev… | /r/seduction | 29/03/16 11:43 PM |
| 1 | I can't be secure in relationships with attractive women because I always feel they can do betterWow. This is probably the worst post I have ever read on my 4 years on reddit. Hahaha stole the words out of my fingertips. | /r/seduction | 29/03/16 11:35 PM |
| 11 | Minor posture tip: Fight back against computer neck!The way you hold your body is everything. I completely changed my physicality and it changed the way that everyone (especially girls) reacts to me... Drastically. This and "bulking up" slightly* have done more for me than all of the game, social dynamics, etc. combined. Things I did to change my posture and the way I hold myself: DAILY stretches to counteract my anterior pelvic tilt Doing back and core exercises CONSTANTLY forcing myself to stand up straight CONSTANTLY forcing myself to keep my … | /r/seduction | 12/02/16 01:30 AM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts on few sexual partners?I think anyone who claims you should want and pursue sex with a lot of partners is way overstepping their bounds. Want what you want. I can't say I understand, but that doesn't mean I think you're wrong in any way. Learning this stuff is about giving yourself the tools to get what you want - a serious relationship, more girls, hotter girls, whatever. If you don't want to deal with girls at all, that's your choice. Honestly it's a good thing for you - it takes a lot less effort to not sleep with … | /r/seduction | 09/02/16 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Why You Should Quit Watching PornBecause you're dealing with real girls (in 99% of cases camgirls aren't freakishly sexualized, unrealistically good looking girls), and you're actually into the idea of interacting with them, excited by them getting nude, etc. You're also not training yourself to get off to other guys fucking girls. I guess that depends on the cam, but I'm assuming he meant solo girl cams. I've done webcam with my girlfriend, so obviously there are sex cams, but that seems like a bad idea for some of the same re… | /r/seduction | 08/02/16 02:04 PM |
| 1 | What type of girls prefer tall guys?Oh trust me. That's my plan/what I've been working at for months now. I feel like I'm definitely not short enough where it can't be made up for. | /r/seduction | 06/02/16 02:54 AM |
| 3 | What type of girls prefer tall guys?Name a type. Any type. 5'8" here, if my parents had any decency they would have given me growth hormones and shit while I was growing. | /r/seduction | 05/02/16 04:40 PM |
| 11 | Red Pill and Cultic Behavior - Why TRP is a lot like Scientology, Heaven's Gate and other cults (based on Science)As someone with a BS in Psych and longstanding interest in cults (who is looking to detox from TRP), I agree entirely. This isn't the first post I've seen drawing the cult comparison, but the first one I saw was one of the most effective in terms of helping me break free from the mental trap. This one is even more comprehensive, so I imagine it'll do a lot of people some good. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/02/16 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Feeling regret after sexThis. I've had serious relationships, one night stands, and FWBs. And honestly, the most important factor in how fulfilling sex is... Is how hot the girl is. Having an emotional connection is better, all else being equal, but I would much rather bang a supermodel who I couldn't stand on an interpersonal level than bang a kind of chubby but passably cute girl who I loved spending time with and cared about deeply. Shit sucks, and not sure if this is everyone's experience, but it is mine. I really … | /r/seduction | 04/02/16 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Something I learned from a gay guy hitting on meFinally someone who has a few of these experiences and recognizes that YES, the guy was a creep. Everyone saying "it's just cause he's a guy! If it was a hot girl you'd love it!" is right on one level, but on another level it feels like they're indirectly justifying using pushy creep tactics on girls. | /r/seduction | 29/01/16 02:47 PM |
| 7 | Something I learned from a gay guy hitting on meI disagree with everyone saying that the sole reason for your discomfort was that it's a guy. I live near the gayest neighborhood in my city, and I'm on the skinny side and take a lot of effort to dress well and be put together all the time. Needless to say, I have quite a few experiences being hit on by guys (gotta figure out how to get girls so interested....). Pushy drunk guys who make repeated sexual advances despite my explicit statements of disinterest? Creepy. But there have been a few in… | /r/seduction | 29/01/16 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Help! I can't seem to get these unwanted RP thoughts out of my head.I never believed this when people said it, including my psych professors, but jamming stuff down will make it accumulate and gain psychodynamic energy until you either break down or develop strange neuroses. Jamming down the experience that led me to TRP originally worked for a couple of months... Until I started developing OCD tendencies and paranoia. Don't throw your mental shit into a dark corner and let it rot, the rot spreads | /r/ExRedPill | 28/01/16 10:21 PM |
| 1 | How do you fake confidence?As much as this is kind of a bad idea, using a small amount of this shit (>.5g, probably gave away at least a third of that too) over the course of one night of partying greatly informed my "confident act". You realize how well people respond to you when you engage them and take the initiative. You also can see how you act when you think you're great. However, doing a tiny amount every couple hours over a long night is much different than doing a couple lines to the face. I've never done that, b… | /r/seduction | 27/01/16 11:04 PM |
| 1 | How do you fake confidence?If you're a decent actor you can definitely fake confidence, just not around people who already know you. Pretend you're playing a character - that's what I did. Pretend you're Brad Pitt in fight club, pretend you have a 15 inch cock, pretend you own the bar you're in and every building on the block, pretend you are whatever ridiculous thing that would make you confident no matter what. Force yourself to escalate, talk to people, act in a proactive way. You might need to learn the kino escalatio… | /r/seduction | 27/01/16 08:58 PM |
| 6 | Random girl with bf messaged me on FB..saying you're not a homewrecker, but you're planning to try getting it on with a chick that you say has a boyfriend. So yeah, you're a homewrecker. Quoted for emphasis. Sure, it's not your job to keep her faithful. However, if you do something like this, you need to know that you're not a good guy. | /r/seduction | 27/01/16 01:48 PM |
| 3 | How do I stop myself from relying so much on female attention and sex for my own happiness?I don't know why this is down voted. Not getting laid leads to frustration and an unfulfilled desire. Unless you're jerking off, and then you're just tricking yourself. | /r/seduction | 08/01/16 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Tips for getting over fear of escalating things physicallyI dunno about all of these complicated comments, but in my case it was just a willingness to crash and burn. I forced myself to escalate ROUGHLY following the escalation ladder, and realized that it almost never failed. As for those saying pick up on social cues to distinguish between friendliness and sexual interest, I say forget that. If you're anxious about this stuff, you'll always assume the worst unless a girl is throwing herself at you. In my case, every situation where I escalated and en… | /r/seduction | 29/12/15 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Tips for getting over fear of escalating things physicallyThis might be a kind of tongue-in-cheek joke, but don't take this suggestion without doing some serious research. Benzos are fucking demons if you don't use them responsibly. Benzo addiction is no joke (withdrawal can literally kill you in this case), and you can become a complete idiot and/or monster while in a benzo blackout. I'm pretty pro-drug, but know exactly what you're getting into. | /r/seduction | 29/12/15 08:19 PM |
| 8 | Would you recommend Tinder for a guy who is a virgin?No, unless you have very low standards or are incredibly good looking. If you're a relatively average (or even decent looking but not jaw-dropping) guy with no experience with women, Tinder will, at best, get you below average looking girls. It took me a few months of lifting and reading Models and pouring over stuff like this sub constantly to get with a few girls on Tinder. The nice part was that I was able to fuck those 3 girls on the first dates - if you screen correctly on Tinder, and then … | /r/seduction | 27/12/15 04:55 PM |
| 4 | Breaking girls' hearts?I kind of agree with this, but really only if the girl tries to propose a serious relationship. Don't say anything to imply you're more serious than you are, don't lead a girl on with false promises or misleading statements about your level of investment, but proactively telling a girl "hey, I'm only interested in casual sex" will often repel them immediately, even if it's a girl who would have a casual sexual relationship with you. No girl wants to think of herself as a slut, and agreeing to su… | /r/seduction | 22/12/15 05:32 PM |
| 2 | Inexperienced Guys with an Experienced Girl: Being Lead OnFear of abandonment really does turn girls into monsters. Take it from someone who has terrible taste and at least 2 serious long term exes with borderline personality disorder | /r/seduction | 12/12/15 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Inexperienced Guys with an Experienced Girl: Being Lead OnAnother very good example that I fear the OP will ignore. Everyone has these stories (myself included), and I guarantee in most of them (mine included), there were copious red flags and people warning against it. I hope OP is one of the rare exceptions and this thread opens his eyes, but I suspect it'll take this experience going south before any lessons are learned. | /r/seduction | 12/12/15 11:05 PM |
| 6 | TRP turned me in to a person that I didn't want to be 4 months removed in a much better placeThis post seems more like a Red Pill AWALT post than anything... Not sure you made your point. Subtle troll? | /r/ExRedPill | 12/12/15 09:12 AM |
| 2 | Inexperienced Guys with an Experienced Girl: Being Lead OnOP, please read this. I've been in your shoes a few times. Feeling like you're different and special to her is setting yourself up for major emotional problems and intimacy/trust issues for years, if not life. Don't ever get into a relationship with this girl. This is black and white. Note: I use 'slutty' throughout this post simply to mean a girl who enjoys and has a history of lots of casual sex with lots of people. It's not a moral judgement. I don't know why the comment above was downvoted. … | /r/seduction | 12/12/15 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Like it or not, girls love muscles.Great rebuttal. As someone else with the direct experience (from insanely skinny to in shape in my case), there's absolutely no question that fitness drastically changes the way people, especially girls, treat you. | /r/seduction | 11/12/15 03:25 PM |
| 7 | Like it or not, girls love muscles.Even just packing on the weight to get from 5'9" 125lb skinny as fuck to 150lb slightly muscular (but still minimal body fat) made a night and day difference for me. I was an extreme case to start, so that does play a part in the drastic change in the way I was received, but honestly I think the body composition and posture changes that came with lifting have done more for me than any personality changes or "game" aside from learning to touch early/often and always escalate. If I had to choose b… | /r/seduction | 11/12/15 03:18 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone else give off the vibe that they get laid regularly but, in fact, they have barely any sex life to speak of?I dunno, a bad enough benzo addiction can change EVERYTHING. Never in a good way. | /r/seduction | 08/12/15 02:34 PM |
| 13 | I think my boyfriend is turning red.Wow, that sounds like a pretty rapid and drastic transformation. As someone who came here after a brief fear-induced flirtation taking the pill, he sounds a bit too eager to jump in head-first. For me, it was a fear of being cheated on that led to TRP. Insecurity, bad past experiences (girlfriend I was supporting having a blatant ongoing "affair" with a lowlife criminal asshole), and general pessimism made the teachings all seem absolutely vital if I didn't want to be a complete joke and have an… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/12/15 03:18 PM |
| 11 | [FR] High school reunion.I'm not sure why I pictured Tina as Tina Belcher, but it made this story very entertaining. | /r/seduction | 24/11/15 12:12 AM |
| 1 | The Illusion of Urgency - Both Poison and AphrodisiacIt's interesting to me that you're able to consistently lift when you (by your sel-report) have issues focusing on long-term goals. I feel like lifting is a very long-term avenue of self-improvement. Even with a 4 day split, spending 1.5-2 hours in the gym per session,measuring and precisely controlling your macro/calorie intake, etc. it takes months to make any major changes and years to get anywhere near maxing out your potential. How do you keep up lifting when long term goals are an issue fo… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/11/15 02:50 PM |
| 5 | Women on the OKCupid sub share stories about sleeping with "douchebag/asshole" Alphas - and in the same thread, beg men to please not become douchebags.A girl will never be hotter than she was 17-24 years old. She just wont be. As a general rule, this is true, but if she's in bad shape when she's younger and gets fit when she's older, there can be exceptions. A girls' highest point of potential attractiveness is in the 17-24 range, sure, but if she's maxed out her potential at 30, she could be hotter than when she was a chubby girl in her early 20s. I also think that some womens' faces look better around 30. But I like very skinny girls, so tha… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/11/15 10:01 PM |
| 1 | [FR]My first and last seduction attempt totally backfiredYour thoughts aren't you; they're something that happens to you. Mindfulness in Plain English has helped me more than I can express. Almost as much as psychedelics, but in a more sustainable way | /r/seduction | 13/11/15 02:51 PM |
| 1 | The Toxic Girl: A lesson on AWALTIt really can't hurt to let him know. Even if he takes twice the recommended maximum daily dose of the blue pill, it should plant the seed of doubt and make him less likely to be duped by her going forward. It's not like you owe him anything, but you'd be doing him a solid with very little cost to yourself | /r/TheRedPill | 12/11/15 03:06 PM |
| 4 | TRP has improved my marriage substantially. Things seem obvious in hindsight but it takes some medicine to fight the disease that society infects you with. Thanks redpill community.Yeah, not only does it prevent the fallout, but it takes any fear out of that possibility. It's no longer something you work to avoid but rather a weapon you wield so that she has to work to avoid it. And if you do have to walk? You're free to move on to who/what's next. It's freeing rather than making you feel like you've lost all control (which is how I used to feel after breakups) | /r/TheRedPill | 11/11/15 02:58 PM |
| 1 | TRP has improved my marriage substantially. Things seem obvious in hindsight but it takes some medicine to fight the disease that society infects you with. Thanks redpill community.The infantilizing approach to bad behavior is amazingly effective. My girl has always been very submissive in bed, but TRP illuminated the fact that if I extend that treatment to the other rooms and buildings of the world, we're both much happier. She either corrects the misbehavior, or if I'm in the mood it'll quickly progress to spanking and then fucking her... Followed by her correcting whatever got her in trouble to begin with. Upholding standards can definitely be done in an enjoyable way, … | /r/TheRedPill | 11/11/15 02:48 PM |
| 23 | /r/TheRedPill enters TOP 300 subreddits/LilRedPillJr... I can only imagine the glorious outrage and sensationalized blog headlines | /r/TheRedPill | 11/11/15 12:41 AM |
| 3 | Jealousy- it's completely irrational and I understand that... but I still feel it. Can I combat it or can I address something that might be causing it?You could always try vipassana meditation. Helps you observe your thoughts and feelings rather than get sucked into them, understanding that they are not you. Has helped me with a lot of useless and ingrained emotions and complexes. Try reading Mindfulness in Plain English. It's freely available all over the Internet | /r/seduction | 10/11/15 12:42 AM |
| 3 | A sexless youth can haunt up for a long time, even if you have some success later on.Your story resonates with me to an unfortunate degree. However, I realized it was happening at some point in my early college years. Didn't figure out what to do about it until years later (when the damage had been done), but I watched the mental and spiritual decay in slow motion. I have been able to find a couple girls who I felt things for, I'm in the midst of a relationship with the second one right now. However, without the validation of conquests, I go crazier and crazier. I don't cheat be… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/11/15 01:09 AM |
| 2 | AFC here with crippling social anxiety, it's hard to leave the house let alone game, even after years of working on myself; what's the point?I have no problem with hookups but they are bland and dull and not what I'm looking for. This surprises me given your anxiety. How do you pull these girls, and why can't you tweak that for something more? Personally, I've always had issues with SA, though therapy, medication, meditation, etc. have minimized it. Anyhow, I've never had problems getting girlfriends and keeping them, but my anxiety (especially in the past) made it very difficult to move quickly, boldly, and smoothly enough to pull m… | /r/seduction | 06/11/15 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Tested Depression CuresI'm gonna jump in here and mention acid (and to a lesser extent for me, mushrooms) for those of you out there with depression that's been resistant to medication and SERIOUS EXTENDED attempts at therapy. I take Wellbutrin and have seen a few counsellors over a handful of years (which took me from barely functional to a much improved life and a dull clinical depression), but LSD wipes out my depression for 2 weeks to 1 month. I discovered this fact a couple years back, and there have been many pe… | /r/seduction | 27/10/15 01:03 AM |
| 1 | How do you act when she drools over other men? Makes me feel inferior.This is the best answer here, way better than any of my input haha. Do this | /r/seduction | 21/10/15 04:09 PM |
| 3 | Those of you who constantly have girlfriends, what do you do?A girl just has to trust her boyfriend not to go out and actively try to hook up with someone else in most cases, since guys are the initiators. Being faithful is passive for a guy. As a guy, on the other hand, you have to trust your girlfriend not to be won over and influenced by someone actively trying to seduce her. Any halfway attractive girl will have to actively fend off guys. I can see why it would be hard to trust a girl who you seduced in 1 night. She doesn't have to make an effort to c… | /r/seduction | 21/10/15 02:28 AM |
| -2 | Those of you who constantly have girlfriends, what do you do?Yeah, I agree with this sentiment more and more. Once you date a few party girl types and get cheated on a couple times, you realize that there might be something behind this line of thinking. If he was saying they were dirty and disgusting, then yeah, that's ridiculous. But I think the logic is more that this is a girl who can be picked up, and fucked, within a night, it's much more likely that she'll cheat than if she's a girl who holds off on sex for a little while. At least she'll probably b… | /r/seduction | 21/10/15 02:21 AM |
| 1 | How do you act when she drools over other men? Makes me feel inferior.If you're trying to date her, she's not relationship material. I would say stop caring about her, but I realize it's often not that easy. If you can't just flip the switch and see her as someone to fuck that you couldn't care less about, forget her, move on, she doesn't exist anymore. If you already don't care about her, it sounds like you're at least deriving some of your self-worth from her, hence the negative feelings when you feel like she's more attracted to other guys. Focus on fucking oth… | /r/seduction | 20/10/15 11:50 PM |
| 2 | How to get past first base with my girlfriend?Don't "just ask". That's about the least arousing way to go about it. Just do. Things are getting hot and heavy? Escalate by putting your hands in more sexual places. Don't make a big event of it, try to let one thing lead into another as things get more intense. Also don't go the opposite direction and "accidentally" slightly brush your hand against her boob or anything else where you're trying to avoid being shot down by making it unclear if you're actually trying something. You've taken thing… | /r/seduction | 20/10/15 12:44 AM |
| 1 | "You go too fast, we barely talked"Tinder is a shitty shithole that is boiling over with cognitive dissonance. It was shitty when I started in July 2014, but I still hooked up with a few girls - a couple one night stands and one FWB... Definitely less attractive than the girls I've gotten through any other avenue, but at least it was something. But by November or so, Tinder became impossible. Seemingly no one actually looking to meet up, and the quality of girls got lower and lower. This was after half a year of hitting the gym 3… | /r/seduction | 07/10/15 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Finally got laid at 22 by being myself and just going for it, overcame years of self confidence issuesIf you have good pictures, then yes. I started this way though without many good pictures and it fucked up my confidence SO HARD out of the gate. Tinder is a dangerous first move unless you are very good looking and/or great at presenting yourself through photos. | /r/seduction | 11/09/15 08:39 PM |
| 1 | [Question] Girls of seddit, how should a man manscape? your favorite style?I just want to second the trimmer up top/fusion down below combo. The first time is always a little tough since you're dealing with longer hair, but if you carefully trim it down with scissors or something first, it's manageable. It seems much scarier than it is. It's actually kind of hard to fuck up, and of any place I shave, my balls are BY FAR the most forgiving skin on my body. Skin never gets irritated, even when I'm using cheap canned shaving goo and disposable cartridges. I don't even use… | /r/seduction | 11/09/15 03:30 PM |
| 8 | Is there such a thing as overdoing it?If you're abandoning other parts of your life that are important to you, it's too much. If you find you're not enjoying it and see it more as a chore/compulsion, then it's too much. If you're enjoying yourself and your lifestyle, you're fine. Haters gon hate | /r/seduction | 08/09/15 02:07 PM |
| 2 | Is overdressing when going out good or bad?And suddenly, my freakish boost in success during/after business events all makes sense. I was not giving that suit enough credit. | /r/seduction | 03/09/15 11:35 PM |
| 3 | Views on RSD?It's not worth the fucking money. You need practice, not intensive "teaching" for a few hours/days. There's no way it's worth that money. Spend that money on hobbies, self-improvement, hell - get a high-end hooker for an hour and still save most of the money. It's a bad move IMO | /r/seduction | 31/08/15 11:09 PM |
| 3 | How do I let go of anger, bitterness, and self-loathing?You shouldn't be concerned about your mental state - everything you described is natural and part of being human. Doesn't mean you can't improve your mental constructs and cognitive habits though. Something that I used to see mentioned more around here that I only recently started getting into is meditation. It's basically like mental housekeeping and it makes a huge difference in dealing with rogue emotions. I can't recommend Mindfulness in Plain English enough. Life changing book for me, and t… | /r/seduction | 28/08/15 02:00 PM |
| 1 | How do I come off interested, but not come off too strong/desperateRead Models. Edit: to whoever downvoted this, fine. I'll elaborate. The central thesis of that book and the whole framework he sets up explains and tackles the paradox of showing interest while at the same time not being needy. It's basically a whole book devoted to this question | /r/seduction | 21/08/15 06:01 PM |
| 1 | What's it like to have sex with a really hot girl?I have to say I completely agree with the criticisms being thrown at you, and you do seem very ill adjusted. Having said that, "throwing beavers while living in a wooden house" is an awesome phrase, so good job | /r/seduction | 18/08/15 11:48 PM |
| 3 | What's it like to have sex with a really hot girl?Personally, I find that it makes a big difference. With most girls, at some point, I have to fantasize about freakishly hot girls (like those goddamn Instagram goddesses) or crazy situations to finally cum. I thought maybe porn was to blame for a long time, but it's been months and months since I've jacked off or looked at porn so it doesn't seem to be that. I see it this way: I actually want to be fucking HB10s, so most girls are kind of a worse alternative. This started when I dated an 18 year… | /r/seduction | 17/08/15 08:02 PM |
| 5 | What to do about girls who actually have boyfriends?Seriously. | /r/seduction | 17/08/15 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Well everyone...after months of ranting here about how women aren't attracted to me, yesterday I made the decision to just start approaching....I think that TRP has its value, but only to a point. Learn the content, but be cautious. Even though I don't really disagree with the fundamental philosophy, I think the community is toxic. Everyone is different, but for me, reading that sub regularly made me more angry, hostile, depressed, etc. even if it taught me some good strategies at first. I don't think I gained anything after the first few times I went on there aside from worse vibes. I think it's worth reading the sidebar and maybe even… | /r/seduction | 14/08/15 04:24 PM |
| 1 | How do I stop being such a goof?I have no idea. I've gotten a lot better about this since temporarily losing my faith in the world, but I still struggle with it on occasion. Sounds like you use a constant buffer of humor/joking to avoid any sort of social awkwardness. Of course, I'm projecting 100%, but that's what I do and I struggle with the same things. | /r/seduction | 05/08/15 06:27 PM |
| 1 | How do I stop being such a goof?Even everything I say to sort of soften the blow. If you change that right there I think it would make a world of difference | /r/seduction | 05/08/15 06:17 PM |
| 1 | What about drugs?I think you need to look at the social effects as just part of the high, and not look at the drugs as part of your pickup strategy, if that makes sense. Changing your brain chemistry literally changes who you are. Some drugs definitely help me be more social and improve my results, others make me way more awkward and nervous. But I would never consider them tools to improve my game. If I'm high, my body is temporarily inhabited by someone who is similar to me but fundamentally different on some … | /r/seduction | 05/08/15 03:11 PM |
| 2 | How do I stop being such a goof?I don't think you should try and change your goofy personality, but I would bet there are specific aspects of your mannerisms, tonality, etc. that could be adjusted for major effects. Alternatively, you could squash your goofiness out by putting yourself through horrible emotionally devastating situations. My goofiness definitely completely disappeared when my girlfriend secretly relapsed on heroin and benzos and had an affair and twisted my head around for a week or two while I still didn't kno… | /r/seduction | 05/08/15 01:53 PM |
| 1 | How to stop feeling guilty about sex?Your logic is flawless. You are the next Albin Einsteim | /r/seduction | 05/08/15 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Can't close and make it to sex. It's not them, it's me.They still have a choice in the matter, so if they choose to fuck you without any sort of commitment or pretense of a serious relationship, who are you to decide that it's a bad move for them? If you don't bullshit and pretend you're more serious than you are, a casual fuck is just a casual fuck. Sex doesn't necessarily imply a serious long term relationship. If you get crazy vibes from a chick, then I think it's worth worrying about. But no sane woman with life experience should assume that sex… | /r/seduction | 05/08/15 01:28 PM |
| 2 | All you kids out there under 18. Stop reading this subreddit and go out and play.I agree with your premise. I didn't read seddit and I was obsessed with over analyzing social stuff and girls and all that. Even more obsessed with getting laid. And if you're already obsessed, why not get guidance? my question is: do you think that the average 16 year old has the maturity to get the good out of seddit without also taking in a lot of trash and warped mindsets? I don't mean that as a slight to seddit. Any online community has a large portion of psychos. And they can be persuasive… | /r/seduction | 31/07/15 02:16 AM |
| 1 | All you kids out there under 18. Stop reading this subreddit and go out and play.https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/3f2ala/all_you_kids_out_there_under_18_stop_reading_this/ctm6u0y | /r/seduction | 31/07/15 12:07 AM |
| 2 | All you kids out there under 18. Stop reading this subreddit and go out and play.I think it takes some maturity to weed out the good advice. I also think that getting too involved in thinking about this stuff all the time during your formative years could go pretty badly and end up screwing up your social skills. There's something to be said for feeling stuff out. I wasn't great with girls in highschool or even college. I wasn't horrible, usually had a girlfriend, but one night stands, pick up, the stuff that I consider an "accomplishment" didn't come til much later. But I'm… | /r/seduction | 31/07/15 12:07 AM |
| 2 | All you kids out there under 18. Stop reading this subreddit and go out and play.This. It's not an issue of wasting your time, it's an issue of applying a bunch of very specifically tailored rhetoric to the world of a teenager. It's more than a time suck; I can see it messing up someone's social development. Things just do not work the same in high school years. Some things do, but the situation is just so different. Sex is such a big deal for so many people that age. Meeting people is mostly done through social circles and school, bars aren't really a thing in your world ye… | /r/seduction | 30/07/15 11:57 PM |
| 1 | All you kids out there under 18. Stop reading this subreddit and go out and play.I think it's much more worth putting in the gym time to get those teen gainz than it is trying to learn pickup from seddit at that age. While a lot of the general philosophy still applies to some degree, when you're in high school things are just so different from going out to bars in your 20s. Especially when it comes to approaching sex, it's very different as a 16 year old with your hughschool girlfriend vs. with some random chick at a bar in your 20s. I agree with OP. I think getting into thi… | /r/seduction | 30/07/15 01:52 PM |
| 1 | 3 dates have now cancelled on me in a row. What am I supposed to say and why does this keep happening?Sounds like the guys you talk about are playing a relatively long game though. It really depends on your priorities.. Your approach would lead to plenty of misread situations and won't lead to sex at the end of the "date" (even if it goes perfectly the way you describe it!). My priorities are different: I'd rather weed out too many girls with directness than go on a date that doesn't include sex. Not because women are only good for sex or something, but meeting new people is exhausting for me, a… | /r/seduction | 16/07/15 11:45 PM |
| 9 | 3 dates have now cancelled on me in a row. What am I supposed to say and why does this keep happening?Masking your intentions like that shows a fear of rejection and unwillingness to make yourself vulnerable by showing intent. It's needy and a bad idea. I agree not to call it a "date" (shows too much investment/adds pressure), but don't try to frame it like you're just friends. Frame it like you're a man who is sexually interested in her and wants to hang out | /r/seduction | 16/07/15 01:41 PM |
| 10 | How much does social status really matter in seduction?Your social prominence isn't as important as your perceived status. If you meet a girl at a bar, she has nothing to go off of besides what she can glean from your appearance and actions. It wouldn't matter if you had 0 friends or everyone hated you and you lived in a box, so long as you present yourself well and have the confidence/behaviors of someone with high social standing. I guess living in a box could mess up the logistics on an f-close, but you know what I mean. If you dress and act like… | /r/seduction | 14/07/15 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Go out aloneThis is a great post. Last time I was forced to go out alone (on a business trip, there for a networking event that ended at a bar), I saw an Asian chick I wanted, and since I was already out alone (with a clear reason/explanation I could give... Which is a crutch) and warmed up from forcing myself to socialize for the hours before that, I just walked up to her, made intense eye contact, said "Hi, I'm WhosCountin" and held eye contact and smiled. She kind of waited for me to falter, but after a … | /r/seduction | 14/07/15 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Go out aloneBenzos = dangerous af What you're saying is true, and I'm not disagreeing with your advice. But given the high instance of social/general anxiety on this forum, it's worth a disclaimer that Xanax is very addictive - physically and mentally; rebound anxiety is a bitch, and the physical withdrawals can kill you if you stop cold turkey after extended use. Nothing wrong with dangerous drugs... As long as you are aware of the dangers going in! Source: was prescribed Xanax willy nilly by a doctor who … | /r/seduction | 14/07/15 01:17 PM |
| 1 | No More Mr Nice Guyshe needs a therapist. Like the ones at the rehab and intensive outpatient program she's been attending? Or the couples counselor we're seeing? What you're doing right now is NOT right - not for you, or her. You're manipulating a vulnerable person while dangling the threat of "she's free to go" over her - which seems like she doesn't really have much of a choice. The relationship tanked, she offered this as an alternative to breaking up. Not as a permanent situation but as a way to (1) repay me … | /r/seduction | 25/06/15 12:44 PM |
| 1 | No More Mr Nice GuyMan, I experienced almost this exact thing. Girlfriend treated me completely inappropriately, to the point where I told her we were done and she wasn't welcome back. I explained what boundaries she crossed and that I refuse to accept that. Things had to get really bad first, but one day I snapped and realized that unless someone was treating me by the standards I set, I owe them nothing and don't want them in my life. It's amazing how just drawing that line and sticking up for yourself changes e… | /r/seduction | 24/06/15 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone else feel good when actively flirting with women, but when you don't have anyone to talk to for a couple of days, feel anxious/stuck in a rut?I second this advice heartily | /r/seduction | 23/06/15 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Being straightforward on TinderYeah, I still didn't call her a bitch because it just seems kind of classless. I was just brutally honest in a firm way and made her realize how completely unacceptable her behavior was and that if she expected to even be allowed stick around for a few days to get her shit together, she needed to provide tons of value and I called 100% of the shots. Didn't even feel very good to have things that way (especially considering the circumstances) but it definitely worked and she went from cheating to… | /r/seduction | 16/06/15 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Being straightforward on TinderYeah my ex-girlfriend cheated on me a couple times with a guy who treated her like shit and called her a bitch. She was in an abusive relationship from the time she was like 17 for like 7 years , so that somewhat explains some of it - she's 27 now but still super fucked up. Anyway, it's definitely pushed me more into the red pill camp. Plenty of girls respond well to being called bitches. Hell, when I found out about it and spent the last few days together ordering her around things definitely g… | /r/seduction | 15/06/15 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Being straightforward on TinderYou need some kind of metric to measure if something works. Sure, more matches is a good thing, but I would wager that for most people, the end goal isn't pulling matches or numbers or even meet ups. It's probably at the very least going on enjoyable dates with legitimately attractive girls, and (I would bet for a LOT of users here) engaging in some kind of sexual activity. It's not about being superior or keeping score, at least it shouldn't be. But it does matter what results you're measuring … | /r/seduction | 15/06/15 02:47 PM |
| 11 | Being straightforward on TinderStep it up a notch. 2 IRL approaches for every swipe (right and left). CAN YOU DO IT?? | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 04:27 PM |
| 5 | [online] Great success with direct messagingIt's not "game", that's kind of the whole point of what I'm saying here. (Models just made me realize that you don't need a fancy "opener" and taught me how to broadcast my intentions regardless of what I'm saying). I did the most basic/standard way of initiating a conversation and (on my first approach after detoxing from that app's toxic effects) it got me better results than 8 months of Tinder where I tried hundreds of different strategies from simple to gimmicky to direct, changed my profile… | /r/seduction | 03/06/15 08:31 PM |
| 1 | [online] Great success with direct messagingYeah you need the right kind of profile to do the direct approach, by which I mean being pretty conventionally attractive, tall/muscular, or just have incredible pictures that make you seem hot. Otherwise, why would a direct approach work? These girls get direct openers all day on Tinder, and unless your pictures make you stand out as obviously superior to the rest of the crowd, you've given her no reason to pick you. Remember, Tinder skews the market pretty bad in girls' favor. Guys are much mo… | /r/seduction | 03/06/15 03:50 PM |
| 5 | A very bro-sciency hypothesis about evolutionary psychologyThat's kind of a different issue than what he's saying though. The point of this theory is that it attempts to explain why guys have developed to be cautious and afraid of hitting on women in general (basically why we have AA even though rejection poses no actual danger in modern times). In this framework, it doesn't matter if a girl is actually taken or not, we're just predisposed to be afraid to approach because guys who overthought who they were approaching were more likely not to cause confl… | /r/seduction | 03/06/15 03:32 PM |
| 9 | How can I kill my ego?Oh hi Terrence, glad to see your spirit gets on reddit | /r/seduction | 03/06/15 02:00 AM |
| 11 | How can I teach my girlfriend how to demonstrate value?Sounds like a great gal. | /r/seduction | 27/05/15 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Even when I act confident (body language, posture, walking with my head up) and dress well, I almost never catch girls on the street looking at me twice. Is that an indication that I'm not good looking enough for women? To be a ladies man?Man, maybe some day I'll be reincarnated as one of these guys who just get to live in heaven. I'm starting to realize that I'm probably not actually going to be happy with my results since that's the kind of thing I actually want. Everything else seems like a poor emulation/knock-off of what life would be as a superior specimen | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 06:28 PM |
| 5 | Be careful with who you take homeGood point with the incall. Duh, I'm a dope. In terms of the hooker price, I guess my thinking the one time I got a hooker was that if I paid for sex, the girl had to be HOT and well-reviewed. Outcalls up the cost (and I wouldn't enjoy myself at an incall), but in Chicago, any girls HB8+ that I could verify with TER (on backpages, RS2K, agencies, or otherwise) were at least $400/hr. Weird side note, the girl I did end up getting is actually coming to live with me this coming week. Deciding to tr… | /r/seduction | 16/05/15 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Miserable and depressedYeah, not masturbating will give you more motivation for sure and might even out your mood, but YMMV. I do like noFap in some regards - it gives me an edge, but overall it doesn't make me any happier. It just makes me skew more towards anger and mania than depression. After a month or so of noFap (unless I'm getting laid regularly), I'm pretty fucking quick to anger and there are definitely times when I wish that someone would try to attack me so I could lash back and stab them to death or somet… | /r/seduction | 16/05/15 02:40 AM |
| 7 | Be careful with who you take homeLet's say he gets a studio for $1000/month. Let's add $200 for utilities. Both of these are ridiculously high estimates for a cheap studio that he usually doesn't live in. But that's $1200/month. Now, for the sake of argument let's really lowball the hooker price. Assuming he has any standards, $300 is probably the cheapest you'd wanna go. $500-$600 could probably get a pretty good one for an hour. So unless he's banging really gross cheap prostitutes, $1200/month could get him 2-4 calls a month… | /r/seduction | 16/05/15 02:06 AM |
| 0 | Eating less takes zero money and the results get you more attractive people. This whole journey is about delayed gratification. So harden the fuck up and invest in your body.I figured "I studied under Dunning" would make it pretty obvious that I was just responding in kind to the guy who decided to link to a wiki page about the Dunning-Kruger effect to try and make his unrelated argument look more intelligent. No one is really that awful, have a little faith. I do stand by the fact that decreasing calories in and/or increasing calorie expenditure is the way to lose weight, but I already said that in my first post, this was just restating it in language he would unde… | /r/seduction | 15/05/15 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Have any of you ever roomed with a female?I think as long as you're not attracted to her, it's just as good/bad as living with anyone else. | /r/seduction | 14/05/15 11:40 PM |
| 2 | Have any of you ever roomed with a female?Sounds kind of like what it was like when I moved in with my last girlfriend. Dat entitlement and lack of self-awareness | /r/seduction | 14/05/15 11:38 PM |
| 0 | Eating less takes zero money and the results get you more attractive people. This whole journey is about delayed gratification. So harden the fuck up and invest in your body.First off, it's Dunning-Kruger (I would know, I've studied under Dunning). Second, maybe you can overhaul your diet so extremely that your metabolism changes and your calorie expenditure goes up, but at the end of the day it's all calories in vs. calories out. There's no way to deny that fact. If you're intaking more energy than you expend, you'll gain. If you expend more energy than you intake, you'll lose. I find it hard to believe that you went "from fat to fit" while eating the same amount o… | /r/seduction | 14/05/15 06:34 PM |
| -1 | Eating less takes zero money and the results get you more attractive people. This whole journey is about delayed gratification. So harden the fuck up and invest in your body.Eating less (limiting calorie intake) is almost always a very bad diet choice and it will make you gain more weight when you get bored and binge. This is an incredibly stupid statement. Limiting calorie intake is basically the ONLY diet choice that does work. Extreme starvation diets are bad news, but if you want to lose weight, you need to limit your calorie intake. The only real exception is if you already eat at maintenance level and start exercising an obscene amount to get into a deficit | /r/seduction | 14/05/15 03:29 PM |
| 0 | I experienced some great success, now I'm having some serious moral dilemmasJust don't lie. As long as you don't lie about your intentions or commitment, the girls are hurting themselves at worst. Will that attitude make you a GREAT person? Probably not. But I'd rather be someone who gets laid a lot and just isn't a scumbag than a super ethical great guy who fucked less girls. At the end of the day, even if you are a scumbag it's not like satan is going to pull you down into hell. If your conscience and feeling bad outweigh the benefits, then stop. Otherwise, who cares?… | /r/seduction | 12/05/15 05:21 PM |
| 1 | How to become desensitized to pretty girlsEh, I feel like it's not as much half the battle being won as it is being really picky, which I hate. I've tried forcibly dropping my standards to girls who were like 6 or 7s in my eyes and it was extremely unrewarding. I think of the 7 or so girls I've been with, only one has actually been 100% satisfying, and she was an 18 year old super skinny blonde (110lbs tops at 5'8"-9"). She's 23 now, and when I see pictures of her she's dropped at least 2 points just by gaining probably 10-15 lbs. I sho… | /r/seduction | 11/05/15 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Girls coming over, my room netflix.Your mindset is bad and you're sabotaging yourself. She's coming over to watch Netflix in your room. She wants you, and you completely have the power to turn her on. Relying on some kind of external trick like a Netflix pick that will turn her on is desperate and insecure. If she can tell you chose something that's supposed to get her horny, I think that'll only hurt. Don't put on something viscerally disgusting or upsetting, but aside from that stop thinking so hard. Pick a funny show. Comedies… | /r/seduction | 10/05/15 11:41 PM |
| 6 | SpankingHahaha this is a dick response but he's kind of right. Here's how I approach it, though I am by no means an authority. Spanking is something that I always do at some point during sex. It's never been badly received, and if it was badly received, that would mean that I was not compatible with the girl anyway. So either it's fun and we both enjoy it or worst case scenario we figure out right off that bat that we're not right for each other. Once we've fucked I'm usually more handsy with a girl in … | /r/seduction | 10/05/15 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Uh..How do I ..use a girl for sex without hurting her?Make your intentions clear without being a crass dick about it. On my tinder dates, there was always a point in the conversation where we naturally talk about dating or what we're looking for, or even our life philosophy at the moment. I always would pitch myself as "just having fun" and "connecting with and enjoying people while I'm still young" and other stuff where I didn't say "I'm only looking for sex" (because, hey, hanging out with new people can be fun even if sex is the end goal), but i… | /r/seduction | 10/05/15 11:16 PM |
| 1 | How to become desensitized to pretty girlsHoly shit this is a great link. That Tiffany Tyler transformation... WHAT THE FUCK | /r/seduction | 10/05/15 09:42 PM |
| 1 | How to become desensitized to pretty girlsWhat about those of us who live in places like Chicago? I see a legit 9+ MAYBE a couple of times a week. And I see at least hundreds of girls every day during my commute, out in the city, etc. etc. | /r/seduction | 10/05/15 08:52 PM |
| 6 | How to become desensitized to pretty girlsMan, not a bad problem to have. I'm in a big city and I definitely don't see girls that are noticeably hot on that regular of a basis. But I guess as a guy who is pretty exclusively into very thin girls, Chicago isn't exactly the land of opportunity. | /r/seduction | 10/05/15 07:39 AM |
| 0 | What Seddit has done FOR me and TO me.Eh, as someone who has always been great at relationships but no good at getting random sex/same night lays, I'm not sure how I feel about this. I started getting into more of the pickup mindset, started having one night stands for the first time in my life, kept a friend with benefits going for months where I called the shots and invested almost nothing for a ton of sex... That kind of seemed ideal, EXCEPT for the fact that the girls weren't super hot. They weren't ugly, and I only really lower… | /r/seduction | 07/05/15 04:56 AM |
| 0 | How successful have you guys been after applying Mark Manson's Models teachings in the real world?Models is great for any sort of sustained relationship, even FWB. I think I do a tiny bit more strategic stuff than he would support, but it's definitely helped me keep girls interested and create emotional bonds which does make everything richer. Having said that, it has not been very helpful with same night lays or fucking a lot of girls, or even getting random hookups out of girls half as hot as the longer term (not serious relationships but also not fucking the night we meet). Which is unfor… | /r/seduction | 02/05/15 04:09 AM |
| 16 | A 9/10 girl's review on Pickup - "With great power comes great responsibility"On one hand, I've known way too many girls who consider themselves hot and are like 6/10 at best to trust OP's self-evaluation for a second. However, I think any OK looking girl and up can speak on this. If girls aren't busted as shit, they'll have experience getting hit on which is all that really matters for the purposes of this post. | /r/seduction | 02/05/15 04:03 AM |
| 1 | A 9/10 girl's review on Pickup - "With great power comes great responsibility"It doesn't paint a better picture though. Some of the girls I've known who would definitely talk about themselves this way were utterly mediocre looking. | /r/seduction | 02/05/15 03:57 AM |
| 1 | A 9/10 girl's review on Pickup - "With great power comes great responsibility"It wouldn't lower my opinion of her any more than it lowers my opinion of myself when I want to fuck a skinny blonde with a perfect ass. Girls and guys find certain things attractive. It'd be retarded to fault a girl for being attracted to things that I'm doing to try and attract her. In fact, if she went with it and was fun and didn't second guess everything I would want to settle down with her more. Who do you want to limit yourself to, a girl who has reservations about fucking or a girl who r… | /r/seduction | 02/05/15 03:55 AM |
| 2 | Been in college for 2 years and haven't gotten laid a single time.This is true but I also feel like it's not the same thing. I can't speak for OP, but when I was in college I had had girlfriends before and gotten sex through them, but that's totally different from fucking a girl in the bathroom at a party. If OP wants to get laid through any means necessary, I agree. Go the slow old fashioned way and it's 1000x easier. Also 1000x less rewarding. This is still a huge sticking point for me (fucking girls the night I meet them, not to mention right off the bat in… | /r/seduction | 27/04/15 02:40 AM |
| 2 | [FR] So close yet so far away.Ending your date and then trying to meet up again later the same day seems like a very bizarre move to me. You didn't end it on a high note, because you didn't end it. Instead, you just added in a weird pause and gave her an opportunity to flake when you should have kept her engaged. If you're going to try and leave her wanting more, then leave her wanting more. Trying to hang out again THE SAME DAY doesn't do that, and then trying to meet up THE NEXT MORNING just makes you seem needy because yo… | /r/seduction | 22/04/15 06:02 PM |
| 1 | To get a different view on seduction, imagine a parallel universeLooks mean very little? That seems like an overstatement. I can see chemistry being more important to others than it is to me, but baseline visual attraction is at the very least the minimum requirement. Looks are a huge part of sex. I know looks trumping everything else isn't necessarily universal, but that's why I said "my main priorities...." I just know in my personal experience, chemistry does help (in the sense of sexual chemistry, ie. performance in bed.), but when I compare my time fucki… | /r/seduction | 28/03/15 10:25 PM |
| 5 | Best way for a girl to ask out a girl?This is so far outside of the bounds of what Seddit covers, but I can tell you this. Don't worry about figuring out if she's into girls or not, assume she is. I'm not sure how a girl goes about picking up a girl, but no matter your strategy, it's only going to hurt your chances if you worry or waste time with figuring that out. Look at it this way. There's two ways it could go: She is into girls, she's impressed by how fearless you are, and you didn't blow the attraction by seeming anxious or he… | /r/seduction | 28/03/15 02:10 AM |
| 31 | To get a different view on seduction, imagine a parallel universeI see what you're getting at, but I've had my fair share of relationships, some great, some shitty, but the one I really miss was with the hottest girl I've been with - skinny blonde 18 year old. We didn't totally click on an emotional level and and she wasn't great in bed, but she was really fucking hot and so I enjoyed that sex more than sex with a girl who I was in love with who was also crazy in bed. On top of this, I've generally enjoyed casual sex/one night stands more than sex within a re… | /r/seduction | 28/03/15 12:20 AM |
| 4 | Is it bad if i see every woman in a sexual way?TL;DR: OP is attracted to women he finds attractive. Is this normal? Even for a shit thread on Seddit, this is shitty | /r/seduction | 27/03/15 05:07 PM |
| 5 | 51 matches in 100 swipes on tinder?Subtle. | /r/seduction | 27/03/15 05:04 PM |
| 3 | Thanx to seddit, today I picked-up an 8/10 girl in a bus, brought her to my place.Did my joke go over your head or are you making a joke that's going over mine? | /r/seduction | 26/03/15 12:20 AM |
| 26 | Thanx to seddit, today I picked-up an 8/10 girl in a bus, brought her to my place.Awesome field report, A+, adds a lot to the community | /r/seduction | 25/03/15 05:14 PM |
| 11 | Anyone else have a fear of missing out?My mindset is this: I'm not looking for a relationship. I'm actively avoiding them like you for the moment. However, if I meet a girl who is so great that I can't stick to that policy, so be it. If she's really someone that I'd be "missing out on" being in a relationship with, that will be obvious. Otherwise, I'm not missing anything that amazing or important. I mean, what's going to make you miss out on more? Limiting yourself to one girl. It's not like you're bound by law not to get into a rel… | /r/seduction | 24/03/15 08:44 PM |
| 1 | So, anyone had the problem of not being able to talk to people without booze?Yep! It's a long process, but it's worth it. I'm like 8 months into my journey and the differences have been very gradual. Still a far cry from where I want to end up, but nothing worth having comes easy. | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 11:24 PM |
| 24 | So I had my first Tinder date yesterdayWe didn't really hit it off but she did seem interested in me. Why the fuck is this shit so hard? Why can't people just fuck like fucking gorillas?? Dude, she probably was interested. I've never had a Tinder date not end in sex if I made any sort of effort at all. Even if we didn't connect at all, just kind of talked without "clicking" or even flirting much, etc. In my experience, girls on Tinder are probably looking to get laid, but they're on Tinder which means they are probably shy or weird o… | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 09:17 PM |
| 3 | So, anyone had the problem of not being able to talk to people without booze?Nah, the more you try without that stuff the better you get. Like I said, I've only done coke twice and alcohol doesn't really help anymore, but I'm getting better | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 06:01 PM |
| 2 | So, anyone had the problem of not being able to talk to people without booze?For the last couple years, alcohol actually doesn't seem to have the social effects that it once did for me. I don't know if that's due to physiological changes in my brain, not being a kid anymore and thus less of a placebo "woah I'm so drunk I have no inhibitions" effect, or what. Shit kind of sucks since I'm not the most naturally outgoing person, but at the same time, now it doesn't work as a crutch so I'm not tempted to drink too much. The two times I've gone out and done coke were incredib… | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 05:52 PM |
| 1 | How to get past that "she would never date me" feeling?I'm not spiritual enough for meditation. It doesn't have to be spiritual. Think of it as an altered state of consciousness or an exercise for your brain. There's very solid evidence that deep meditation produces unique brain states that can be measured with ECGs, fMRIs, etc. It's not mumbo jumbo any more than lifting weights is. | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Tonight I Fucked Up.Yep, I agree. It would have to be quite some time before I'd be comfortable actually considering a relationship with her. Like I'd have to see her turn her life around completely. So far she hasn't taken advantage of me, like I said we discussed her staying with me temporarily, and although I thought it was a bad idea (we were just going through every possible option), she was the one who said that she wouldn't want to do that because it would be a recipe for us hating each other and she didn't … | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 12:53 AM |
| 2 | The Comfortable Life of the Undersexed Male (Why Most Guys Won't Get A Lot of Pussy)This is totally how I am... When I'm not regularly tripping. Taking acid every couple of weeks gives me perspective and if I've become complacent or stagnant it's instantly apparent and I kick myself back into gear. Started taking a Python coding course last time I dropped. There was a year there where I had no supply, and the mental hole I fell into after a while was awful. I had moved and started a new better job, so I wasn't really conscious of the lack of psychedelics, but as soon as I used … | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 12:34 AM |
| 4 | Tonight I Fucked Up.Well, I decided out of nowhere to try getting a prostitute, and things went totally crazy in ways I did not expect. She gave me her personal number and then came over to hang out and smoke the next day (when weed prevented sex), and then the night after that was the acid trip (Friday-Saturday). On the trip we pretty much just banged on and off for 12 hours and in between got to really know each other. Turns out she's actually awesome and we have a lot in common. We also talked about her job and … | /r/seduction | 20/03/15 12:02 AM |
| 7 | Tonight I Fucked Up.Weed is like the anti-alcohol. Makes you think about everything twice as much. I much prefer it to alcohol for that reason, but generally being hyper self-aware is not good for making moves | /r/seduction | 19/03/15 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Tonight I Fucked Up.Laugh at yourself for how awkward you made it, and explain it was because you have been in a LT relationship. Adding onto this, you also did fucking dabs first. It would not be hard to frame this as "lawl got way too high and am way out of practice, what a genius move that was". It's funny as long as you realize it is | /r/seduction | 19/03/15 04:13 PM |
| 3 | What is your tried and true seduction move?I've always thought once you're isolated and logistically set up for sex, it's the easiest thing in the world. Once I make a physical move, I think my batting average is 1.0 since I've started getting into seduction last fall. Having said that: As far as GETTING to the point where you can do that... Hmm. Wasn't too conscious about it but I guess spending time with her is a good start. Bonus if she comes back to your place. That's the hard part. Being physical is easy. Just be aggressive and basi… | /r/seduction | 19/03/15 04:06 PM |
| 37 | What is your tried and true seduction move?I will stay in the bathroom for longer than usual just to let them marinate in what just happened "Wow, I can't believe he just kissed me like that and then disappeared to take a shit for so long! 10/10 would date again" | /r/seduction | 19/03/15 03:29 PM |
| 18 | Tonight I Fucked Up.I'm generally of the opinion that weed is not the best idea when you're trying to make a move.* It makes it far too easy to not only over think everything she's doing but also second guess your own words and actions. It pretty much takes the possibility of being smooth off the table. There have been so many cases where I've been paralyzed by my own over-analysis all night after smoking with a girl. And even if you do keep it together, you never know how she'll handle her weed. I feel like the od… | /r/seduction | 19/03/15 02:58 PM |
| 1 | How to escalate from bed/couch?Yeah she's sent you nudes. No matter how awkward you feel, just initiate. I've realized that since I just went for it, I haven't been rejected. It's a new rule I have for myself (if we're isolated, I have to physically make a move), and despite the fact that every time it's felt like it won't work, it's worked on 4/4 girls since the fall. Now I just need to work on getting into the situation where I can make a move more often. | /r/seduction | 17/03/15 01:13 AM |
| 1 | [FR] 2 F-closes in one weekend, with major LMRWhy the focus on neediness? Do you really think that's a woman's biggest concern when dealing with a guy? I don't think so, women love feeling needed, I love feeling needed, we all do. I think that's a projection of you being noncommittal. You've spouted a lot of nonsense in your comments, but this really takes the cake. | /r/seduction | 16/03/15 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many Bluepillers/Feminists/etc believe in a just world fallacy when it comes to dating?Ah, it seems like you assume I place value on how many partners a woman has had in the past. But IMO the hotter and more fun a woman is, the chances she has a high number goes up. Which is fine, I don't think sleeping with a ton of people is a moral issue in the least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/15 03:41 PM |
| 2 | For Men, Is It always Quantity over Quality of Mates?Are you locked into this for a lifetime? It depends on a lot of factors. For the record, I consider 5 to be utterly neutral. Just past the point where you'd be OK with fucking them. Nothing unattractive enough to actively repel, nothing attractive enough to really be arousing. If this is just one month, I'd definitely pick the 10. I've never slept with a 10, and most people never get to, so I would definitely choose that at least for one month. Also, if it was equal amounts of sex (eg. 20 times … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Aren't the incel/forever alones the true "outliers"? How does TRP account for all the "averages"?And no, narcissists are born from abusive parents. The start of this comment thread by /u/ReddishBlack describes both what I want and my past perfectly, and I had wonderful parents. Nothing they did could ever be construed as anything close to abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Aren't the incel/forever alones the true "outliers"? How does TRP account for all the "averages"?This actually describes me perfectly! Good call | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 09:31 PM |
| 2 | Aren't the incel/forever alones the true "outliers"? How does TRP account for all the "averages"?I don't understand this way of thinking nor why an extensive courtship phase = failure. In my mind, accomplishment= result/effort Someone who is truly skillful can get the same results with a fraction of the effort compared to someone with no aptitude. So my first point is that you're not really doing that well if you have to put in multiple dates to get laid compared to a guy who can fuck a girl the night he meets her. More importantly than how impressive or how much of an accomplishment it is,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 08:56 PM |
| 6 | Why do so many Bluepillers/Feminists/etc believe in a just world fallacy when it comes to dating?I am just getting tired of reading the same shit, but written differently. Sounds like this isn't the sub for you. That's a pretty succinct way to describe 99.9% of posts here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Is Dan Bilzerian the Ideal, Ultimate dream man of TRP philosophy?The Dan Bilzerian constructed and portrayed by his Instagram? Definitely. Looks like a pretty fucking ideal life. Can't comment on the reality behind the public image though. Given how hard he tries to push the image, it's probably hiding a much sadder reality. Having said that, I can't imagine being that unhappy while flying around in a private jet and fucking girls as hot as the ones in his posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Women want the benefits not the responsibilities - Tom Leykis, taking you out old schoolThis is exactly my experience as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 06:04 PM |
| 0 | Aren't the incel/forever alones the true "outliers"? How does TRP account for all the "averages"?God, that Instagram is probably my least favorite thing on the Internet. It's like looking into heaven but knowing you're never going there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 04:05 PM |
| 6 | Is The Red Pill degrading to men?If all these older men wanted to be out fucking why did they get married and tie themselves down in the first place? Think about where the term Red Pill comes from. The main premise is that most guys are unaware of the realities of the sexual marketplace and thus end up resigning themselves to getting tied down. I'm not saying I believe that's universally true; plenty of people want relationships. However, it's well within the TRP framework to say a lot of guys out there gave up and took an LTR … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 03:54 PM |
| 10 | Why do so many Bluepillers/Feminists/etc believe in a just world fallacy when it comes to dating?the second is attractive because it suggests you are simply a good person. And this is what gets people laid. Totally. I don't think being a good person is a direct detriment to sexual success. It might indirectly hurt your results because you're more constrained by morality, but that's a separate issue. We're talking about if being a good person turns women on. I would say it's not a turn-off, but it's not a turn-on. It's just irrelevant. If you're being "nice" just to get sex out of her, then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 02:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableHopefully she would back out instead of trying to convince herself there is something there that there isn't. But it is also likely that she can tell the guy is "only after one thing" and if that's not what she wants she refuses him before they go anywhere. I would also hope she isn't trying to "convince herself there is something there that there isn't" when it comes to the emotional component or thinking it would lead to anything serious. So I always do my best to make it clear that it's purel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 02:03 PM |
| 2 | If a woman refuses to do certain sexual acts for her Bf/Husband, does it mean she isn't truly attracted to him?She could think these activities are inherently sinful now. Yikes, that level of crazy is even scarier than your wife secretly thinking you suck compared to her past lays | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 12:48 AM |
| 2 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?On PPD, reading a post before commenting seems to be a rarity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/15 12:28 AM |
| 4 | What is the biggest contributor to the development of "Nice Guys."?Good for the guys being parented by other people maybe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 11:44 PM |
| 1 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.I did the meaningful relationship thing for years. Like basically 17-23 with a few months off in between relationships here and there. Do I treasure those memories? No - it was nice at the time but at the end of the day amounted to nothing and cost me a lot of time and effort. I would much rather have hot fucks to look back on than romances that seem ridiculous now that they're over. Relationships are nice in that they're easy. That's the advantage I can see. It's easy to be loving and kind and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 10:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableWhen did I ask why they wouldn't? Clearly I get it, since the comment you were responding to was an explanation of why they won't. Is it really ironic to point out how the unbalanced market causes girls to not have to stoop to banging people less attractive than themselves but forces guys to if they want to get laid? "I hate that I have to have sex with less attractive people, why won't women who are more attractive than me have sex with me" I think the more accurate summary would be "I hate tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 10:52 PM |
| 2 | What preferences are people allowed to have?One is a moral decision Is how many people you sleep with really a moral decision in and of itself? I mean, you can definitely go about it in an immoral way which gets into ethical issues, but I fail to see how being more or less promiscuous is an inherently moral issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?Alright, we're basically completely in agreement. One of the more reasonable bluepers (or posters here in general) I've seen. I think of one-night stands as being similar to business transactions on a social level. Two people who both want something from the other and have no illusions about it. You put this very well. Good analogy. I think the serious divide between those situations and more intimate relationships isn't acknowledged enough by either side. TRP kind of approaches all relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?you really think that's why they are messed up? I think that's where a lot of the anger comes from. The vast majority of misogynists I've met in real life were sexually frustrated and that was clearly a big reason they resented women so much: they have it really easy in the SMP and so these guys who are powerless rage against them having the upper hand. When I was a late teen, I was that way. But then I matured and realized that they didn't do anything wrong; life is just unfair, that's no one's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 06:14 PM |
| 1 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?I do believe intelligence was a slight detriment to me socially. It made me kind of a precocious weirdo and I definitely didn't identify or connect with most kids, even if we were friendly. I had a couple of really close friends that I'm still close with to this day, but on the whole I think intelligence was a slight hindrance. More importantly, I think it just doesn't help as much as a lot of other things. Of all the areas to excel in, intellect is one that won't really help you socially or sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?Yeah, I think that does get into seedy territory, we seem to be pretty aligned. I wonder where you draw the line though - for me personally that line is not lying about facts or intentions. If you tell a girl you're the CEO of Uber, that's a manipulative lie. If you act like you're legitimately interested in a relationship with her when you're not, that's also horrible. But acting differently than you would if you were relaxing with friends seems like an inevitable outcome. Do you think it's wro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?Once sex came into play, I realized I wasn't doing as well in those other areas as I thought. It became quickly apparent that I wasn't respected or seen as a legitimate person so much as I was seen as an interesting and unthreatening novelty. Before that my social sense wasn't sophisticated enough to pick up on that, but seeing how girls didn't really view me as a potential mate, even for a second, was a hard sign to ignore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?No one is a perfect embodiment of TRP theory, in fact I think the vast majority slip up a lot of the time. How do I explain this? Being a sexual strategy sub, TRP draws a lot of sexually frustrated guys. Sexual frustration over a long period of time can mess people up pretty bad. It's no surprise TRP draws in a lot of messed up people. But re-reading your original point, I don't disagree. You were talking about the craziest terpers, not the TRP rhetoric and theory. I just think those people at t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 04:26 PM |
| 8 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?I see where you're coming from on the insincerity that TRP advocates IRL. Most of my stances I would own up to in real life, but I also don't hate women or have any problem with "sluts" or any of the more hateful end of the Red Pill spectrum. trying to trick me into fucking them. I'm curious as to what you count as "tricking". Would you consider guys going out of their way to embody the things in that table as "tricking you into fucking them"? I think dread game is shitty and manipulative, but a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 04:16 PM |
| 2 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?elliot rodger is not far off from the crazier red pillers He's pretty much the opposite of TRP. TRP says you can't change society, only yourself. It lambastes feminist and SJWs for focusing their energy and efforts towards society/other people. He decided to utterly give up, had essentially the ultimate level of temper tantrum (not very stoic of him) and blamed society for it all. I think any true levelheaded terper would find him pathetic. [I] might learn things that can allow me to help others… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?All else being equal (same woman, same boob size, perkiness, etc.) don't you think men would prefer it to be real as opposed to fake? Of course, because I imagine real ones would feel better. However, if they looked and felt identical to perfect natural boobs, it would make literally no difference to me if they were real or fake. Fake actually might be a positive indicator that she's a sexual being and puts a lot of effort into being as hot as possible. Also, saying "all else being equal" is kin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 03:55 PM |
| 3 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?interest in others correlates to curiosity and concern for others. i like observing, interacting with crazy people. i want to understand how they think, why, etc.. I'm not sure that looking down from your high horse and watching people who you consider "crazy" as some kind of spectacle is the kind of interest that leads to "concern for others". In fact, to use your favorite buzzwords, it sounds rather sociopathic and narcissistic. Is that why you view everything in the worst possible way? Projec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?Yeah, I feel like the general population has a negative opinion of PUA on average (at least the people who are familiar with the concept) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?Its the same reason men aren't as sexually attracted to big fake boobs vs. big real boobs Speak for yourself. Most people are naturally flawed, so a really good boob job is generally better than all but the top tier of naturals. Maybe it was a product of growing up with a computer in my room and broadband internet, but I really don't get why guys are against (well done) fake boobs. Having said that, comically large or terribly done boob jobs are worst of all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 03:38 PM |
| 1 | I have strong evidence here that slut shaming by men is old school mangina behaviour and those that do it were the blue pill men of yesteryear.This is a pretty succinct answer that illustrates how I feel about this to the tee | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 03:22 PM |
| 1 | If a woman refuses to do certain sexual acts for her Bf/Husband, does it mean she isn't truly attracted to him?so unless you like messes, don't plate. But you see, my friend, messes love company. I'm definitely a mess, and the girls who will drop acid with me generally also have some pretty non-traditional sexual morals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 03:00 PM |
| 4 | Why do BPers (and the general Reddit community) only hate the TRP communities, instead of hating "natural" TRPers and TRP qualities in regular people?People look at the obsession with and the calling people "sluts" and think its pathetic. This is my biggest problem with TRP. IMO any girl with half a brain must realize the insane opportunity she has when she's young to fuck a ton of people (including guys better looking than her), and any girl who likes sex a lot (read: is fun) will take advantage of that. Am I jealous of how easy girls have it? Of course. Sounds ideal. But am I going to criticize their character if they take advantage of it l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 02:45 PM |
| 1 | If a woman refuses to do certain sexual acts for her Bf/Husband, does it mean she isn't truly attracted to him?ah, yeah, i've always said that. women are wired to want to be in monogamous relationships, only masochistic women tolerate plating, and only sociopathic men prefer plating. So do only sociopathic women try to push for a relationship by holding out sex? After all, men are wired to fuck a lot of random women. So if it's "sociopathic" to push for the scenario that is optimal for the man but not exactly what the woman wants (no commitment), it therefore must be "sociopathic" for the women to push f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 02:37 PM |
| 2 | If a woman refuses to do certain sexual acts for her Bf/Husband, does it mean she isn't truly attracted to him?Man, you just love calling people sociopaths. Plate spinning is inherently sociopathic now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 02:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableBecause they have other options. Which has already been explained in this comment thread. Girls can afford to be much more picky because there's always another guy to have sex with around the corner. They don't ever have to lower their standards to have sex, whereas if I just started nexting any girl who wasn't seriously hot, I would probably never get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 01:13 PM |
| 1 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.I dunno, the guys I know who have done shit like that are generally getting with hotter girls than me, in larger quantities, and are able to do seemingly whatever they want while still maintaining way more power over girls than I ever have. I don't know what you mean by "the girls aren't much better either", but again in my experience those girls are hot. Which is the most important thing when it comes to sex in my experience. It'd be easier if I could look down on anyone for having lots of sex,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/15 01:10 PM |
| 13 | If a woman refuses to do certain sexual acts for her Bf/Husband, does it mean she isn't truly attracted to him?In that case, I would say yes to your initial question. However, I want to draw a distinction - if she tried something once or twice in the past and HATED it, that's a bit different. If it was a failed try or two, then that just means she discovered it didn't work for her with the first guy. If she regularly did it with another guy but not you, it seems like either: She was more attracted to the other guy and thus any sexual act was more exciting and she would do crazier shit. The other guy was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?Yeah, I'm not sure why I ended up this way, but I know it's definitely not normal - and it's definitely not a good way to be for a 5'9" average faced guy. I feel like most other things are more achievable with hard work, and this is one of the few where if you're not born with the right looks, you pretty much can spend your whole life trying your hardest and you'll still fall short of what the genetically elite could pull off in a week. Could be why it's such a big deal to me (it seemed nearly i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 11:51 PM |
| 2 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Nothing I'm doing is "noble". Nor did I claim it was. But it's not hurting anyone, and it seems to be the most effective way forward in terms of having sex while I'm in a period of my life where I don't think a relationship would be good for me. You have some pretty wacky moral standards (trying to act confident to be more attractive is equivalent to being a con artist), and I'm glad I don't see the world like you. Shitty talkin with ya, have a good one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?I was definitely a very naturally outgoing kid, so assuming that fact wasn't altered, yes, I do. I was friendly with everyone and had a few close friends and lots of casual acquaintances, but I was never seen as attractive or cool, and not being able to get any girls to be sexually interested made me feel like I wasn't really a person, more of an entertaining, non-threatening thing. If I had been attractive, I'm pretty sure that my social nature would have paid off tenfold. Since I talked to eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 11:10 PM |
| 1 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Yeah, we're in total agreement actually. The whole alpha/beta thing is overblown by TRP and not supported by this article really. Though the guy who fucked at least 5 of a girl's friends and then still got her as a girlfriend makes a pretty good case that some guys are so ridiculously superior to others. I can't imagine pulling that off in the first place, not to mention being attractive enough where a girl would deal with that jealousy to be with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?I said it didn't help, not that it was a deterrent. My point is that being attractive is a much bigger advantage than being intelligent in those realms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?I have. It's more pleasant than the part leading up to that where I'm fighting actively negative thoughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 10:08 PM |
| 2 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.You're right. Trying to act confident is evil, and anyone who does it is a liar. Unless you are 100% comfortable in a situation, you better let your insecurities show so you're not misrepresenting yourself. and who has never lied to someone? i have and i think i have more of a conscious, more consideration for others than you. Good call! I was totally claiming that I have never lied to anyone ever, not that I "would never lie about my intentions... [or] the facts of my life" while trying to pick… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 10:04 PM |
| 1 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Just because someone has a 4.0 GPA doesn't make them less desirable. I agree. I don't think that academic achievement is a turn-off. But it's also not really an advantage either, except with a small subset of girls - and in my experience, girls who prioritize intelligence tend to be less attractive than girls who evaluate partners on a more shallow basis. Being strikingly, stunningly handsome is a decided advantage with almost everyone. Even girls who do care about brains will be attracted to an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?Not just sex, no, though sex is one of the funnest things. But fun includes a lot of things like general socializing, going to parties, connecting with peers, having hobbies, etc. Being intelligent did not help with any of those things with the possible exception of my hobbies. However, dumb people can have hobbies too - being less intelligent would just mean having different ones. I've never gotten any joy out of learning and always hated school despite being better at it than anything else in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 09:52 PM |
| 2 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.but you've made it clear that's not who you are, you are not a confident person. so why do you keep trying to characterize this as anything but misrepresenting yourself. You're right, insecure people with lacking social skills should not try to change that. People with social anxiety should be true to themselves and never talk to any strangers. Trying to get better and improve their social skills by pushing through their issues? Hell no, that's essentially a con. You're acting like insecurity an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?I've always said I'd gladly trade my intelligence for attractiveness. Being smart made school easy and got me good grades, but it never helped me have more fun. A whole race of good looking people does nothing for society except make the mirror industry a multi-trillion dollar business. Yeah, smart people make the world better for everyone else if they apply their smarts in a productive way. But being attractive is what gives the individual the most benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 09:14 PM |
| 3 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?Hey, I'm not saying kill anyone. I'm saying think of the children! Assuming that sex is the most enjoyable part of life (which is definitely the case neurochemically, barring artificial manipulation through drugs), the guys who can constantly be drowning in pussy have lives that are incomparably superior to those of us that get laid sporadically or else have to sacrifice our agency, independence, and complete control over our lives in order to have sex regularly. Going out and having sex with a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Should beta males be reproducing at all? Are the people that complain about women being interested in Alpha males a threat to the quality of the gene pool?I was talking about this in another thread, but I'm all for selective breeding by letting only the most attractive people (say top 10% of the population) reproduce. But that's because I think it's unfair to create a kid with subpar genes. They'll inevitably be at a disadvantage and, compared to the more modelesque individuals, their lives will look like shit. Unless I can find a stunningly gorgeous wife to have my kids (thereby driving up the attractiveness of my offspring), I think I would feel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 08:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI feel like most women theorizing about trophy wives are overthinking it. Most guys probably innately understand this. And if men are criticizing or overanalyzing (the guy must be immature, he's trying to prove something, etc.), it's pretty much the same phenomenon as claiming that you're with an ugly girl because of your moral fiber and not because you just can't do any better. It's a lot easier to pathologize and criticize behavior that you can't replicate than it is to accept the fact that yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 08:23 PM |
| 3 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.so your point/argument is it's alright to misrepresent yourself on certain qualities? I guess? The way you are acting is the way you are acting. If you're acting confident and that attracts a girl, it's just as good whether you always act that way or if you're putting in a bit of effort. "Who you are" isn't anything except an aggregation of everything you do. So I think "acting like" this or that is completely fine. Put another way, the girl is attracted to the behavior you're exhibiting. You re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 07:30 PM |
| 4 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Look, if you think faking confidence to be more appealing is immoral, you either live in a fantasy world or must think almost everyone is a scumbag. if being liked is important to you, why would you ever admit that a behavior you engage in is faulty? The more important question is why would anyone engage in behavior that they considered faulty? I'm not pretending it's OK so people on reddit like me. I know it's OK and I'm explaining why. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be doing it. If a girl puts on an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 06:01 PM |
| 3 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.You're right, but I don't get your point. It is why con artists can be so successful. Con is short for confidence. People are drawn to confidence and more likely to comply with you if you act in a confident manner. However, being likable and charismatic isn't the negative side of con artists. What they use it for is. In the case of sex, since you are selling yourself, if the way you act is attractive to a girl and she sleeps with you, she is getting what she banked on - sex with this guy she is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 05:40 PM |
| 5 | Married and dating couples tend to match on partner count, and when their is a difference in partner count, it correlates with lower levels of love, satisfaction, and commitment.There are several studies which found that men with more premarital partners correlate with higher rate of divorce, lower marital satisfaction and higher rates of extra-marital affairs. Oh, I know that, don't worry. I think honestly people (man or women) who are more predisposed to sleep around like thrill, are impulsive, take risks, and like sex a lot. All of those could potentially be bad things for a marriage. And if the number is really high, that could mean some kind of compulsion or underl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 05:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYeah I think FWB is ideal. The first time you have sex with someone generally is the worst. Then you get better and better. But after a point, it's not exciting being with the same person anymore. They don't visually turn you on as much as someone novel (at least for guys, but this is a documented difference between sexes). So for me, the ideal sex is in the first few weeks with a FWB, but after the first time you've been together. I see the appeal of knowing your partner, but novelty is also ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 05:02 PM |
| 5 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.I think the fact that you're on PPD is causing you to view me as a terper or as someone with absolutely no soul or morals or anything. I'm actually a very nice guy who tends to give way too much. I'm not a dick to anyone, and I also don't lie. I want to better explain myself here - try to have an open mind and see if you get where I'm coming from. I don't really see the ethical issue. (And I'm not claiming any sexual strategy is inherently free of moral judgement, some people are terrible manipu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 04:58 PM |
| 1 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Ooo baby, I graduated 2 years ago but only got a well paying job last year and finally got my own place a month ago. So I'm just finally entering into this demographic. Gotta find some college gals | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 03:36 PM |
| 3 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Yes. I find that most women I see are sexually attractive. Holy shit, where is this magical kingdom full of attractive women? I feel like out of girls I my age range (20s), maybe 40% are attractive. And if you take the whole population including older women? I don't even know what the percentage would be, but it's low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 03:33 PM |
| 1 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Yeah those scholars are really rolling in top shelf pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 03:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableThe mindset of a woman really is so amazingly foreign and different. The fact that both of these statements comes from the same person blows my mind: I'm not trying for it and guys all wanna fuck me. O.o. and I'm three years older, a woman and have pretty much the same numbers apart from bf who is my no 8. Not criticizing at all; but if at any points in my life it felt like "girls all wanna fuck me" there is no way in hell I would be in a relationship, and my number would shoot out of single dig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 03:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableDo you just not understand the dynamics of the sexual market place at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 03:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableNo, I stand by my statement that I would trade dying at 35 if those 35 years (or at least the second half of those 35 years) was full of constantly fucking top tier girls. I'm much more concerned with the total number of good experiences in my life than the total number of years lived. And fucking dime pieces seems like the best experience out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 03:13 PM |
| 7 | Married and dating couples tend to match on partner count, and when their is a difference in partner count, it correlates with lower levels of love, satisfaction, and commitment.The previous claim is backed up to a degree by a study posted here - men who have only been with their wife are more likely to report higher levels of satisfaction in their marriage than men who have been with other women. However, it didn't get worse as the number went up beyond that. Women on the other hand had an inversely proportional relationship between past number of partners and marriage satisfaction. That's by no means incontrovertible evidence of the TRP claim - there's no way to deter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 03:07 PM |
| 5 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Oh I still know who I am. I'm pretty confident in my identity, and my friends and family (and girls when I'm in serious relationships) know who I am too. But when I'm single, is it worth putting on an act for a few hours occasionally to get a bunch of sex on my terms? Of course. Does it make me insecure about my identity? Not really. That alpha guy isn't me, and I don't think he's superior to me either. It's just a mode of acting that for whatever reason (lots of viable reasons out there but thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 02:23 PM |
| 15 | Married and dating couples tend to match on partner count, and when their is a difference in partner count, it correlates with lower levels of love, satisfaction, and commitment.This seems so self-evident. I wouldn't want to be with a girl who had a way higher count than me because I'd be jealous of the fact that she got to sleep with so many people (especially given how easy it is for women, I doubt she would have had to try very hard). But I also wouldn't want a girl who wasn't into sex or wasn't as hedonistic as me. Who is going to be more likely to want to spontaneously fuck in random places or want to be tied up or do anal or drop acid and fuck all night - the girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 02:12 PM |
| 4 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.It wasn't bizarre that things changed when she found out the reality. Your reading comprehension is greatly lacking. I explicitly said it was bizarre to have that much power. As in, the difference between how you get treated as a beta and an alpha (you lead all the interactions, you decide when you have sex and get it whenever you want, you're clearly deferred to for most decisions, etc) is unbelievable. If it was bizarre behavior on my part to act that way in the first place, that's fine by me.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 01:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYeah for me a flat stomach is a huge turn on and anything beyond that is actively a turn-off. That's one of the biggest advantages to skinny girls IMO. Also, in terms of both ass and tits, I would much much prefer erring on the smaller side but high and tight and absolutely 0 sagging rather than larger and even a little less perky. However, I will say that when you're dealing with 18-20 year olds, there's more leeway on a few extra lbs. They can carry extra weight and still have it defy gravity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 01:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYeah, I mean I've had sporadic success, but any girl I've been with outside of a relationship has felt like an active lowering of my standards. I had that one Tinder girl who would fuck me a lot, but she was also probably 15lbs overweight. Had an OK face, but on the whole I was definitely just taking what I could get. If I lay out of whole sexual history in one paragraph, it would seem like a fair amount. But then you have to take a step back and realize that I'm 23, and 7 women (3 of which were… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/15 01:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI actually have managed to let that go because I realized how much more important a skinny tight body is to me (as long as her face is decent). Faces don't give me an erection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 11:32 PM |
| 3 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableA trophy wife is a status symbol for sure, but I think that aspect is trivial compared to the fact that you get to fuck a sexy woman regularly. Marrying anyone other than the hottest you can get seems like an insane move considering once you marry, that's the only sex you get (without being a cheating asshole). It's like signing a lifetime contract for your entry level job even though you could have gotten a promotion with enough work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 11:30 PM |
| 4 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableOf course the losers pretend to care about other shit because they knew they never had a chance anyways. Can't blame them really. Yep, I did this was I was an omega male in early highschool. It's a lot easier to delude yourself into thinking that you're dating a bad looking girl because you have more moral than other people rather than facing the reality that you're just getting the refuse that no one else wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 11:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableIf you want a part of that pie as well, you'd better hone your game. Honing my game, working out, and acquiring more money/outward symbols of status are my top priorities right now. Just praying I can outrun my inevitable balding | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 11:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI mean, sounds like your life is amazing now. Your past sounds a lot like mine, but at 23 that hasn't changed a bit. I try harder and have lowered my standards so I get some action, but it's still basically all a big pathetic waste of time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 11:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableMy parents definitely were guilty of the "just be yourself" and "you're amazing" and other stuff aimed at making me not prioritize self-improvement or attractiveness to others, but they never led me to believe that anything was possible or that if I want anything enough I can get it. I don't think I can "have it all" or that I deserve anything really. However, I do feel like if you prioritize one thing and sacrifice anything else in pursuit of that, you can stand a chance at getting whatever is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 10:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI feel like forcing yourself to want different things than you truly want deep down (or convincing yourself you don't want those things) is a long slow road to waking up at 40 realizing that you never even tried to get what you want. I tried that for a few years, like I said, and at points convinced myself "eh, that's stupid. Love is more important." but I was deeply unhappy the longer I forced myself to be a different person than who I actually am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 09:28 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI don't really like my girls to be so skinny. Man, if I felt this way I think I would be so much happier with all of the girls I've been with. Them not being really thin is the main issue I have and the main reason I'm not satisfied. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 08:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYeah, I tried that and it is rewarding in other ways (spent 2.5 years in a serious committed relationship), but even with all of those great other factors, it very much felt like my life was missing something vital. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 08:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableWell, TRP would. I don't deny I'm essentially the male version of an alpha widow (with the female equivalent of an alpha being a skinny tight blonde 18 year old with no excess body fat) - that's what makes the whole alpha widow thing make sense to me. I've personally experienced what having sex with someone out of your league does to your perception of the people you're with when you come back down to earth. Once you experience sex with a seriously high SMV person and realize how good it is, how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 08:00 PM |
| 12 | I have strong evidence here that slut shaming by men is old school mangina behaviour and those that do it were the blue pill men of yesteryear.Taking your post and your title together, you're essentially implying that women who slut shamed somehow became blue pill men over time. Since the article is about women slut shaming and you're saying it's about "the blue pill men of yesteryear". What is this I don't even | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 07:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableIt could come from studying psychology in undergrad. So many fucking bell curves and so many shockingly disappointing statistics about how bad so many people are at so many things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 07:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI don't care if I'm "someone who has sex with them" from a status perspective or to make myself look good. It's not that I get upset because it makes me feel like I'm worthless, I get upset because I'm literally not getting the one thing I want most (actually satisfying sex with girls I find hot, not girls I can fuck with enough mental gymnastics and imagination). It's not "FUCK I'M SO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS WHAT THE HELL." It's "Fuck. Is this really the best I can do? Is this what I can expect o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 07:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableWhen I imagine the average student, I think of someone with Cs who isn't an idiot but also isn't intelligent except maybe in one area (and even then, they don't really excel). If they are actively involved and decent with a sport or activity, then to be average they'd have to be a little dumber in class. If they were slightly smarter in class, they'd have to not have much going on besides that for me to consider them average. I don't get why people discount all the riff raff out there. Maybe it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 07:38 PM |
| 0 | NYT article describing a wife's change in libidoThose are threads on TwoX. That's like trusting AskWomen to be a representative sample of the normal female population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 06:57 PM |
| 3 | NYT article describing a wife's change in libidoLook, once your dick gets hard you are in the mood for sex. That's how it works. Maybe he wasn't quite in the mood and you worked him up to it with physical stimulation, but the fact of the matter is, if you are a male with an erection you are either: a. In the mood for sex (regardless of if you were or not 2 minutes earlier) or b. In REM sleep when erections just happen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 06:55 PM |
| 1 | NYT article describing a wife's change in libidoEven the most innocent, watching Porn/masturbating, is thought to be gross or perverted. Sounds like you've had some pretty shitty mates. Even my shitty radical feminist horrible girlfriend who was the most selfish person ever would encourage me to watch more porn if I was being too horny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 06:42 PM |
| 2 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.What, faking it? Did you read my post? My point was it's not sustainable in the long run. Or do you mean the situation I got into in general? Because we weren't dating, so there wasn't really a honeymoon period. She was just a girl I would call up and bang a bunch of times every so often for a few months. Absolutely no pretense of romance or anything like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 06:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should be propertyWorked for whom? Worked in what sense? Were the women happy or fulfilled in their lives? As much as a prioritize my happiness, I can't support a system that legitimately oppresses half the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 05:47 PM |
| 12 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Yeah, I pretty much stopped putting up an act eventually. I came out and told her I had social anxiety because I was getting bored and tired of being someone I wasn't for pretty mediocre sex. She's actually a kind of cool girl so I figured I'd just be myself and let it kind of disintegrate into a friendship. I'm not sure if it was me hanging out with her less often, dropping the alpha persona or what, but it played out just like that. We're still on good terms and she has a committed boyfriend n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 05:27 PM |
| 0 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableIn fact, the girls you linked - while they are pretty - are simply too skinny for my taste and could gain by putting on some weight. But that's just me. Funny you should say that, because my go-to source for "attractive girl examples" was /r/thinspo. I picked one on the lower end of the pics there for my 8 and some of the best ones from the front page for the 10s. Katelyn Byrd is kind of my go-to example of a perfect looking gal (at least her body). I wonder if I can get brain surgery to change … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 05:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableIt has attractive elements, but overall is chubby and If you remove photoshop smoothing and whatever is supporting her boobs, I think that's around a realistic 6. No women of that weight actually look like that, that's why I made the distinction. It still is shocking to me that you'd put the chubster above Katelyn Byrd who is a goddess I have a thing for plus size-models - they wear that weight well and have a pretty face on top of that. I wish I could find any girls that were heavier than very … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 05:00 PM |
| 13 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Yeah, I pulled this off with a girl from Tinder and it was so fucking bizarre to have that kind of power. It took her months to realize that I was totally faking confidence and social skills (despite constant anxiety), and the FWB situation fell apart shortly thereafter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 04:53 PM |
| 4 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.Yeah, gladly is definitely not the right word. But "willingly" or "regularly" both seem appropriate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 04:09 PM |
| 3 | From the New York Times: Women are suffering romantically on college campuses and women demonstrate that they still only go for alphas even when there's a big gender imbalance.before she and her boyfriend started dating, he had “hooked up with a least five of my friends in my sorority — that I know of.” Man, I don't think there are words to describe this much jelly. I want to fuck a whole friend group :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:54 PM |
| 5 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableHow did you miss his point so completely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:38 PM |
| 5 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYeah, in relationships I have pretty consistently been with other 7s (where I'd consider myself on the scale). I'm talking about casual hookups where 6-10s on the girl side shoot for 9-10s on the guy side. It's not even like I'm fucking a ton of 5s/6s, that's still work even though I'm fucking down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:37 PM |
| 3 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableWait what am I having confirmation bias about? That girls can get laid easily and with a lot of different guys (compared to the difficulty of fucking a bunch of different women)? Because if that's your claim, you basically said "you only believe that because of confirmation bias, but btw I'm a woman and it totally applies to me". Congrats on having a bunch of people want to fuck you - sounds like a pretty great life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:26 PM |
| 3 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableNo one wants to live without getting what they want out of life either. I'd rather have 35 years packed with prime pussy than 80 years of always coming up short of my desires. Just to be clear, I'm not saying "well my life sucks so I might as well give up at 35". I'm just saying that 35 years as a very attractive person would be worth more than a longer lifetime of being constrained by the limitations of my average looks. It would have to be attractiveness to the point of lots of random sex with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:19 PM |
| 0 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableThat's inconceivable to me. Even if you account for the retouching and support? A girl with a figure like that would definitely have saggy boobs and skin that wasn't even close to that smooth. I mean, even with the retouching I would consider her chubby, which is a total deal breaker for me. I know some guys like bigger girls which would actually be awesome. Getting with girls like the national average example is infinitely easier than girls like my first example of a ten - who is freakishly per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:18 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableIt's easy to refuse bad offers if you have got options and know that there will be better offers all the time. It's hard to refuse a bad offer when you need something and you know that there probably won't be a better offer anytime soon. How do more people not understand this. "Just don't fuck the subpar girls" doesn't work as advice unless you occasionally are picking up actually hot girls. It's not like I'm going out and only shooting for 5s. I try for the better looking ones too, but so far I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI end up hating myself way more if I don't fuck anyone for weeks/months than if I fuck a mediocre looking girl. No sex: Want to jump off of a bridge Unsatisfying sex: Want to go punch someone in the face The former is still worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:20 PM |
| 5 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYou seem to be the one person who actually understands my post fully. A lot of other people have made good points, but no one seems to get the point that I'm mostly complaining that I almost always have to drop my standards and fuck down. The 8/10 story was just basically to explain one reason why this is driving me fucking crazy. Now that I know what it's like to have sex with an actually hot girl (basically as great as I imagined it, legitimately satisfying), the sex I'm having with girls that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:19 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI'm more complaining because I'm getting with 5s and 6s. 7s I would be OK with, seems like it makes sense. 8s I would be happy with, but I don't have any delusions that I deserve that (just that now that I've experienced punching above my weight, I'm pretty much doomed to sex being that much more disappointing going forward). Having said all that, I would happily agree to die at like 35 if it meant trading my younger life for that of a very attractive man and getting to fuck a bunch of different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:12 PM |
| 0 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableIf you're not giving them that, then do they have a right to hate everyone and everything too? Most definitely. I'm not a SJW and I don't think anyone should change to make like easier for anyone else. Life is pretty unfair for everyone, and I wouldn't be surprised if these mediocre looking girls were just as unhappy getting no commitment out of me as I am getting sex out of girls that just barely pass my attractiveness threshold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:49 PM |
| 4 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableSure; I was considering doing this anyway. It's hard to say from one picture (and there's very few celebrity examples of 6s), but I'd say here is a pretty good example. She's got a kind of cute face, but I'm assuming her tits are kind of saggy, and overall she's not in very good shape. Not unpleasant looking (in fact, slightly above neutral as 6 would imply), but not arousing. Since her face is kind of cute, assume that her body is really nothing special/has extra padding in too many places and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI mean, if the frustration that results from continuing to fail to get what you want out of life is narcissistic rage, then sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Is a previously sexually promiscuous woman not suitable for a marriage?Oh I wouldn't see it as an achievement on her part, but that doesn't make it any less jealousy inducing. In fact, it probably makes it worse (because then I'm jealous of both how much sex she's had and how easy it was) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:12 PM |
| 0 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI'm sure they don't want to be with someone who is settling for them sexually, but I'm pretty sure when a girl goes home with a guy she's at least convinced herself into thinking he's sexually into her (if not actually potentially really likes her). I would imagine if a girl realizes a guy isn't really into her/is settling then she backs out? Need some ladies to chime in on this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:11 PM |
| 0 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableStill a large investment of cash. Also, last time I did that, it got crazy and is still a very weird situation. Not necessarily bad, but I don't plan on going down that path again. Just wanted to see what it was like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 05:11 AM |
| 1 | Is a previously sexually promiscuous woman not suitable for a marriage?I don't really care though? It's not jealousy of her mad skillz, it's jealousy that she got to have so much sex. It's easier for better looking guys to get laid, that doesn't mean that I'm any less envious. Are you saying I shouldn't be jealous because she didn't really earn it? Or am I misunderstanding your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 05:09 AM |
| 2 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYou exactly hit the nail on the head. I don't really blame the 8-10s, I'm not that hot. It's not their fault that I'm pretty cynical about ever being satisfied, because I punched above my weight once and since then everything has seemed pretty bad. I would consider myself a 7, so like a little decent looking (with six being marginally better than neutral, and 5 being utterly neutral; not attractive or ugly), and in relationships I've been with girls around my own attractiveness level for the mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 05:06 AM |
| -1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableTherapy for me helped mostly with getting out of a bad situation. I didn't really have anyone to talk to about what was going on, and talking through it really helped me get my thoughts together. It also got me into Wellbutrin which isn't a total fix, but helped a fair amount with depression without making me a zombie or anything. I recently moved to a new area, but I definitely need to find a therapist. I'm already kind of losing my shit because I'm not talking through it. I think Jungian psych… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Is a previously sexually promiscuous woman not suitable for a marriage?I think it would depend for me on if I'd been with 25 girls or not. I would want a partner with a similar partner count to me. I know I personally don't think I could deal with committing to someone who I was extremely jealous of (which is definitely the case with anyone, man or woman, who has fucked a lot of people). Conversely, a girl who has been with less people than me (I've only been with 7), would probably not work out too well because we have different values. It would imply a low sex dr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableHmm, I think some guys might rank that way, but like I said, I consider a 5 to be totally neutral. Like if she was standing there naked you probably wouldn't get an erection looking at her but you could probably work up to it if you started fooling around with her. Because like you said, there are a ton of actively ugly women out there. There are also a decent amount of excitingly attractive ones. I actually think that the TRP 80/20 split applies to girls as well (within the young sexually activ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 03:14 AM |
| -3 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYeah I got a hooker the other day and ended up having her come back for free a few times and doing acid with her and she ended up quitting the trade and now she calls all the time and seems to be getting very coupley. So it's been a pretty crazy couple weeks, definitely in direct proportion to how many less fucks I can afford to give anymore. That's actually another reason I'm starting to freak out. I somehow won over this girl and got her having sex (like a lot of it) on her off time and quitti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableWell, I've seen convincing arguments against both the Hot or Not and OKC study in this thread now, so I haven't been inspired, but the main piece of evidence that was worrying me has been invalidated to a degree as well. They are really 2 very shitty "sources". This thread has definitely helped chill me out and counteract my view a bit. Which is genuinely what I was shooting for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:44 AM |
| -2 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableNah, if a girl was actively repulsive I wouldn't engage (and she'd definitely be below a 5), it's just shitty when the best I can get is so so far from what I actually want. Again, like half a step up from watching porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableAll very good points. Definitely tempering my view a bit. Thank you for that; anything that can cast doubt on this disheartening study is great news to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:16 AM |
| -4 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYou can have no standards and still tell the difference between a hot and ugly person. I know guys who have no trouble fucking horrifying girls, but they definitely would prefer the hot ones. That said, it's a pretty fucking stupid hypothetical to begin with so I don't know why I'm defending it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:13 AM |
| 3 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableThis was an awesome response. You have successfully, well not quite changed my view, but lessened the severity of it. Throw yourself into PUA and Red Pill. Fucking young, hot women is an achievable goal. You're going to have to work for it at the gym and the job and the mental discipline, but it's totally doable. That's my current path. Only recently found TRP (and even now I'm iffy about a lot of it), but I've been pouring myself into PUA and working out since last summer. I hope you're right a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableWell, never mind what I said about inspiration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:03 AM |
| -1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYou really don't think if she's going out and having sex every night (and therefore clearly pretty easy), that she wouldn't have at least pulled like 100 very good looking guys out of 5000? I would happily have sex with a random 4 or 5 every day if every so often there was a 9 or 10 sprinkled in there. Fucking a 5 isn't depressing if it's not the height of what you can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 02:01 AM |
| -1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableOh, I've been on the therapy path for a while. It helps somewhat (though occasional psychedelic use definitely helps more). My situation kind of evolved out of yours. Due to a massive lack of success in highschool and college I very much felt like I was excluded from a vital part of life. And now that I have lowered my standards and try like crazy, only to get girls I never would pick if I actually had a choice, it doesn't feel much different. For that year when I was with the really hot girl I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:58 AM |
| -3 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableHave sex with everyone. I'm not a terper, so I think sluts are the best girls out there. The more willingly and easily girls give it up, the more sex will be had by everyone. It'd be the best if everyone literally had no standards so everyone would get a chance to fuck some dime pieces. I don't judge girls with high partner counts at all. It baffles me that more girls don't go out and fuck a different guy every weekend, because that's definitely what I would do if casual sex was easy to come by. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:54 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableBut that's not even close to what you said. If she is both a) no longer concerned very much with sex and b) not all that attracted to him (but doesn't mind because she isn't concerned with sex), I don't know how the sex could be anything but infrequent and boring. Maybe she won't resent him (now that we're assuming sex isn't important to her), so I do retract that. But I also think that, assuming the husband does care about sex and is attracted to his wife, he has more to lose, more to hold on t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableHmm, see, this is just more of the sad reality that unless you're an elite specimen of a man, you're pretty much condemned to sex that requires investment, commitment, and a lot of time. Going out and getting laid either takes incredible levels of attraction for a guy, or low standards (something I'm really jealous of. I don't know how some guys do it, but if I could enjoy sex with unattractive/mediocre looking girls I'd be the happiest guy ever.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:37 AM |
| 2 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableEh, it gets scary and frustrating realizing that you may never actually get what you want out of life. Pretty sure I have like a year left before I start legitimately balding, and I'm not sure how I'm going to get ripped and rich and have good enough game to actually experience what I want before it's too late. Hell, as a 5'9" guy with an average face, I don't even know if I'll ever get what I want even if my hair does stick around and I get in the best shape of my life. I think that article abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:34 AM |
| 3 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableOver the course of a long period of time, or is this something a guy with great game could manage over the course of a night at a bar or party? Because if it takes personality to overcome your looks, you're not exactly going to be having a blast as a single guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:28 AM |
| 5 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableI'm saying that women view sex differently than you do. I'm saying that sex becomes less of a priority when you get older. I'm saying that you look for different qualities in a LTR partner than a one night stand. So by the time they're getting married, the women don't care as much about sex. Which still means that the younger better looking guys got the best she had to offer. In fact, this only makes my point even more severe. Not only is she marrying a guy who doesn't sexually live up to her pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:24 AM |
| 1 | As a parent, would you encourage a male child to study hard and get good grades knowing that it is negatively correlated with romantic and sexual success?Banging pussy is a vital component of having a good life for a lot of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:13 AM |
| -1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableWell, this is actually somewhat inspiring/reassuring. One of the few things around here that actually gives me some shred of hope that I can get what I want out of life eventually. Or at least something closer to what I want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV - Women have an extremely high bar to even consider men passable or average, and only find truly elite men to be "hot" or remarkableYou're treating the chick you're fucking like sleeping on an uncomfortable futon. You act entitled to higher quality chicks and treat what you have as "paltry scraps". Oh, I didn't mean to come off as entitled. People are allowed to have the standards that they have. I'm much more resentful of my own genes than anything. I don't blame hot women for not sleeping with me - I know how shitty it feels to sleep with someone mediocre. All I can do is continue to work out, make more money, get better c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 01:00 AM |
| 1 | If men are easy (to manipulate) shouldn't we raise gilrs with a certain amount responsibility to respect that and not take advantage.But guys will respond in that "white knight" fashion, regardless. "What, who did that to you? Where is he? He'll PAY for what he did!", even if the punishment far exceeds the crime. These guys sound like complete and utter retards. I've spent my life as a beta with mostly beta friends, and no one I've ever known would be so stupid as to act that way. I'm not denying the manipulative power of females, or even making a major point, it's just shocking to me that you've encountered this kind of bull… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/15 12:37 AM |
| 12 | Do males have to put in much greater effort to have a vast number of sexual partners than females do?I feel like I've never even seen bluepers argue this fact. This is very well established. It definitely made me extremely bitter and resentful of women for a while. I'm not gonna lie, I'm still extremely extremely jealous of how easy they have it (I mean, that Nikki Lee woman's life sounds pretty ideal), but hey, life sucks and isn't fair. It's not really worth resenting women for it since it's just a fucking fact of biology - and as others have mentioned, most women don't seem that keen on havi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/15 11:05 PM |
| 4 | As a parent, would you encourage a male child to study hard and get good grades knowing that it is negatively correlated with romantic and sexual success?He's not really being that much of a crybaby. He's just acknowledging that the way his formative years played out was... Well, a formative experience. How could failing at something so important at such a crucial time of life not leave its mark? I'm a lot younger (23), but I know I'm still trying to fix my self-image and compensate for the lack of pussy I got in highschool and college. Hell, I can't even fathom getting into a relationship right now because my experience with casual sex is so lim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/15 08:51 PM |
| 4 | As a parent, would you encourage a male child to study hard and get good grades knowing that it is negatively correlated with romantic and sexual success?This describes exactly what I felt as a straight-A goody goody student in highschool. I ended up swinging the opposite direction and getting into drugs, which, shockingly enough, allowed me to get into IDGAF mode to the point where I lost my virginity to another guy's girlfriend a few days after picking her up while I was on Vicodin in a coffee shop. My grades slightly suffered (like a B or 2 senior year rather than all As), but it became very clear that the more of a shithead I became, the bett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/15 08:43 PM |
| 3 | If men are easy (to manipulate) shouldn't we raise gilrs with a certain amount responsibility to respect that and not take advantage.I agree with a lot of TRP's rhetoric, and I definitely think that girls have an incredible capacity to easily manipulate guys (especially in younger years like you mentioned), but I definitely do not have a story like that, even as an observer on the fringes. I can think of endless examples of girls manipulating guys in a lot of ways, but never to go beat some guy up. And I've definitely never known a guy who would take it upon himself to go beat some other guy up without the girl even asking in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/15 08:09 PM |
| 0 | Is the Yes Means Yes law mutually beneficial for both genders? Is it overall a necessary measure?I tried my best to find any sort of explanation of this "fuck sociopaths" model you mentioned but I'm coming up with nothing. Care to explain further? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/15 03:44 PM |
| 2 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?Or maybe you're just too quick to jump to the side of women who want to frame every inconvenience or anything uncomfortable as an attack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/15 08:05 PM |
| 1 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?No, but way to read the worst into what I said. Where on earth did you get me "ignoring" a lack of consent. I clearly said that if I tried to initiate and she said no, that was "borderline rape" (but only when we were in fights about other things and she had to pull someone damning out of her back pocket). If she said no, then I stopped. This is like if we were in bed together and I tried to initiate. She'd say no or brush me off after a little bit of making out, and I'd stop. But it "made her u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/15 06:11 PM |
| 3 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?I have had sex with self-identifying radical feminists before. It was not scary. I did not feel guilty. I dated one for 2.5 years. She was "sex positive". Except if she wasn't in the mood and I tried to initiate and work her up. Then it was "borderline rape", even if it never got past heavy petting. It "made her uncomfortable" having to say no, and so essentially she got to initiate sex whenever she felt like it (and being a guy, I almost always would be up for it), and I had to stop initiating.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/15 01:03 AM |
| 2 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?But don't you see? It's the patriarchy's fault that women are so scared, and white men have brainwashed them to be afraid of black men. You forget - if something causes negative emotions for a woman, it IS a crime. A violent crime. It's not her fault she's racist, so those men have essentially raped her. Did she consent to them asking her how her day is going? That's what I thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/15 12:53 AM |
| 0 | Is the Yes Means Yes law mutually beneficial for both genders? Is it overall a necessary measure?It doesn't matter what they had in mind. What matters is what the law says and what kind of repercussions that could have. A law is a bad law if you can easily come up with a variety of scenarios in which its application would be unjust. All of those examples, regardless of how likely or unlikely they are, demonstrate why this is a bad law. It's like making a law that you can charge anyone with petty theft who walks into a convenience store between 1 and 3 AM. Even if the intent of the law is to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/15 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Would you act flirty to get free stuff?Yeah, that story was tangentially related but not super relevant. I forgot to add the point of mentioning it, which was that it made me feel GREAT about myself. And I would love that to happen more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Would you act flirty to get free stuff?Guy here. Yes I probably would. In highschool I got free drinks at the coffee shop I went to every night whenever a certain barista was working. Though to be fair she was actually cute and I would have banged her if given the chance (/if I knew what I was doing back then). As it stands, I usually flirt whenever there seems to be an opportunity as long as the girl is decently fun to talk to. Even if I'm not at all interested in her sexually. It's good practice, and it's validating even if I'm not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 11:08 PM |
| 12 | Is the Yes Means Yes law mutually beneficial for both genders? Is it overall a necessary measure?Being unconscious or altered means you can't consent no matter what in the eyes of the law. Having sex with an unconscious person was not legal before this ridiculous affirmative consent law was passed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 08:23 PM |
| 3 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?So if you see someone attractive and want to have sex with them, acting on that is wrong. If you see someone attractive and you want to get to know them and sex naturally comes from that, it's not wrong. So sexual interest in a girl is wrong. Wanting to get to know her is fine, because that's not sexually motivated. But if you are sexually motivated, then there's something wrong with that. Do you see that you're essentially promoting exactly what this thread is talking about? Guys should feel ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 08:09 PM |
| 2 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?I'm going mostly off of my experience with the feminist population of Vassar College, which is probably a pretty extreme population. I will give you that. I'm definitely not claiming all feminists are like this. The logic that I'm thinking of here is the line that I have heard many many times: "Would they have done/said that to her if she was a man?" The implication is obviously that if you approach with sexual intent, you're being inherently oppressive. The general bend of the arguments I'm thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 07:03 PM |
| 1 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?I agree entirely. Abundance mentality is key to hitting on women in any situation. There's always a significant chance of rejection no matter what. Turning men down shouldn't make them "ashamed of their attraction to women" - that would mean they are incredibly insecure and weak men. But feminism on the whole often casts any sort of attempt in a bad light - trying to pick up a girl in a bar, trying to initiate out on the street, whatever. A lot of the time it seems like the implication is that y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 06:51 PM |
| 1 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?men should be aware of appropriate times and to never ignore a woman’s disinterest. I agree with the second half of your statement here - if a woman says fuck off (even if it's in a nicer way), then you fuck off. No use wasting your and her time fighting a losing battle. However, I think that men have to take risks. Sure, you don't hit on someone at their mom's funeral, but more nebulous situations like being on the street can't categorically be ruled out as options. As long as you abide by "nev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 06:44 PM |
| 1 | How does TRP explain happy feminist relationships that last?Gotta disagree here, though. A TRP relationship (strictly talking about LTR) is designed to benefit both. That's why there's emphasis on balancing alpha and beta behaviors to maintain a relationship. Fair enough, I should have clarified "It's like how many people perceive TRP relationships" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 06:32 PM |
| 3 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?Would I define a man saying hi to me on the street as sexual harassment? No. However it is an unwanted interaction so I'd rather men understand not to do that and just let us go on our way. Okay, so you do make that distinction, which is good, but you're still framing men showing interest and initiating as a bad thing, even if it's not "harassment". Also, would you agree that a lot of feminists lump all of that behavior together and think men should feel guilty for trying? (The men they aren't a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 06:30 PM |
| 4 | In your experience, has feminism made you ashamed of your attraction to women?Have you seen that ridiculous cat-calling in NYC video that some feminist posted on YouTube (it was actually produced by a viral marketing company, but I digress). Sure, some of those guys were total creeps, out of line, pushing boundaries that they shouldn't. I won't deny that for a second. But a lot of them, probably around half, were simply trying to start a conversation - "How are you doing today?", "Beautiful day isn't it?", etc. etc. Were they starting those conversations because they had … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 06:11 PM |
| 4 | A recent article reviewed by Science Alert claims that a "Study says that men are more narcissistic than women" and "Especially when it comes to entitlement."Yeah, everyone is awful for the most part. Men and women alike. I'm sure a lot of terpers will argue against this somehow, but I think the more moderate ones might see it this way (at least this is how I see it): Both genders and people in general are self-serving and selfish. It doesn't really matter who is worse. TRP is just about knowing how females go about being self-serving and selfish and learning strategies to counteract those tactics in order to achieve your own selfish ends. I don't re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 05:55 PM |
| 1 | *GASP* An Internet Article That Actually Values Nice Guys?Oh, I'm not saying that it's a realistic goal or that it works. I haven't really "taken the pill" so much as I agree that a lot of the dynamics they point out tend to be true sometimes (especially when you're shooting for casual sex with hot young women, which is my goal right now). I'm just explaining why they'd want to shoot for that. I'd much rather be a guy in an upper tier frat at a party school than a high school jock. I agree, even the upper echelon of high school guys probably didn't fuc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 05:44 PM |
| 1 | *GASP* An Internet Article That Actually Values Nice Guys?i don't know why red pill emulates being reborn as high school jocks. I don't know. Maybe because fucking a bunch of young horny girls is a pretty appealing goal? Just a thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 05:37 PM |
| 1 | *GASP* An Internet Article That Actually Values Nice Guys?As someone who generally errs more on the TRP side of things, I have to agree here. mushioov, you're arguing like an angry blueper - just responding with vitriol and personal attacks rather than debating constructively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 05:12 PM |
| 9 | How does TRP explain happy feminist relationships that last?Eh, I was in a relationship with a feminist for 2.5 years and I was definitely brainwashed. If you asked me (aside from the last 6 months) how I felt about her and my relationship, I would have said I loved her and was so happy. Then one day I realized that her emotions basically took precedence over all else. We couldn't even discuss anything related to feminism because if I disagreed, in even the most civil ways about the most basic things, she would freak out, sleep on the couch, etc. It's fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 02:21 PM |
| 41 | *GASP* An Internet Article That Actually Values Nice Guys?The comments are going to be so fucking predictable. You totally shot yourself in the foot with this choice, assuming this is supposed to be a counterpoint to TRP. I'll save you the trouble: Before I met my husband, I dated a bunch of not-nice guys. I peppered in a few nice guys here and there, but I think I was so insecure and unhappy at that time that I either drove those good guys away or grew bored of their niceness. TRP: Classic AFBB hamstered away by the author as usual. TBP: Or she just m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/15 12:23 AM |
| 4 | Is the Fat-Acceptance Movement damaging to a Society as a whole for women?Men don't feel entitled to be fawned over and put on a pedestal. Fat men realize "well, I'm fat, I can either work on this or accept that I'm unattractive" whereas HAES girls think "why is that skinny hot girl getting all the attention?! That's not fair! That's oppression!!" It's like how feminists bitch about the inequalities in society and try to demand that everyone else changes but TRP bitches about the inequalities in society but realizes that you're responsible for yourself and trying to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 11:51 PM |
| 1 | [Help!] Can anyone give me some insight/r/AskSeddit would be the place for this. I'm also concerned that I won't ever be able to pick up women like I can on ecstasy. I get worrying about that. I've felt this way about a lot of various drugs. I still feel like they make things a lot easier, but here's what I've realized: take them as a sign that you can do better with what you're working with. If you on drugs can pick up a hot girl, that means that if you act the right way YOU CAN DO IT. You don't have to worry that you're not attract… | /r/seduction | 05/03/15 10:28 PM |
| 9 | Redpillschool: "If you’ve gained any insight or help from TRP at all, you owe it to new members to help them with the same." Why? Isn't RedPill amoral?No, because compared to the general population, TRP is such a small subset that unless things drastically change, there aren't enough members to cause any actual change in the overall market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 06:49 PM |
| 2 | The average female clubbing experienceThe not feeling safe outside the club thing does sound horrible and being a female would be awful in that respect in general - I worry enough about getting mugged as an average size guy in an OK area of a big city. Having said that, I have very little sympathy for the inside the club aspect. Sounds like this girl is either pretty hot or is overplaying how much attention she gets. I'm sorry, but having an overabundance of sex opportunities is not a "problem". I'd happily trade being annoyed every… | /r/seduction | 05/03/15 06:45 PM |
| 19 | Redpillschool: "If you’ve gained any insight or help from TRP at all, you owe it to new members to help them with the same." Why? Isn't RedPill amoral?TRP's sexual strategy is amoral. This isn't an issue of sexual strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 06:32 PM |
| 5 | Guys stood me up on first datesOnline dating is fucking terrible - so many flakes at every step of the process. If this is Tinder we're talking about, multiply that times a thousand. Don't feel bad, just out yourself out there. Go out to a bar in a tight dress and make eye contact with guys who are appealing to you - you'll definitely meet at least a few guys, and hopefully you'll like one/some of them*. *If you're overweight, then this might not work as well, but losing weight is a lot easier than gaining muscle, and it'll m… | /r/seduction | 05/03/15 06:20 PM |
| 8 | I'm her 1st BF, and i can't seduce her into sex...Sounds like she wants to wait until marriage. If that's not how you feel, I would probably just end things. Pressuring her into it will never work, and if it does it'll fuck up your relationship. | /r/seduction | 05/03/15 03:48 PM |
| 3 | (Part of) why "The Red Pill" is so off-putting to non Red Pill peopleYeah I'm aware of that double standard in TRP and I don't quite understand it. But I'm less risk averse than TRP in that I'm more concerned with spending my time with fun girls than trustworthy/reliable girls. I'm also not looking for a relationship. Not sure how I'll feel when I'm older and looking to settle down, but I still think I'll probably have to find a girl who was wilder in her youth or else it'll be harder to connect, again, because it means our values and the things we like are so di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 02:35 PM |
| 9 | Does Rape/Consent Culture contribute to lack of male confidence AKA nice guys? TRP Vs. TBPSeconded. I'm not RP either and a lot of that long post we're referring to doesn't resonate with me, but my experience is very similar to purple_lock's in this respect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 02:30 PM |
| 4 | (Part of) why "The Red Pill" is so off-putting to non Red Pill peopleHey, I'm no terper. I judge slutty girls way less than prudes - after all, if I was a girl I would be going out and fucking above my league constantly. Girls who don't have lots of casual sex are fundamentally less appealing to me to spend time with because we have such different values. The only criticism I have of sluts is that I'm jealous of how easy girls have it on the sexual marketplace! I was just explaining why I think TRP has caught on so much. I still think it's better than going in wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Are all Women manipulative?I can see that. Just saying, if I was a girl I would definitely take advantage of my station in the sexual marketplace. The only thing I see wrong with sluts is that I'm jealous of how easy it is to bang a bunch of people when you're a girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 02:04 AM |
| 0 | Are all Women manipulative?What is the cost in the OP's example and how will it come back to bite her in the ass? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/15 12:49 AM |
| 7 | (Part of) why "The Red Pill" is so off-putting to non Red Pill peopleThe problem with a lot of these approaches is that they don't teach you how to exploit these dynamics for your own gain. Good luck finding a therapist that will coach you in ways to be more likely to get into a girl's pants | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Is There Any Ex-RedPill in Here? What Was Your Experience? Why Did You Decide to Plug Back in?I "swallowed the pill" and accepted it as truth for around a week, then I tripped on acid and realized that they make way way way too many generalizations and absolute statements for me to really trust it. I still agree with a lot of Red Pill philosophy, but I don't visit the sub anymore and I do not consider myself one of "the initiated". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 09:53 PM |
| 18 | (Part of) why "The Red Pill" is so off-putting to non Red Pill peopleWhere do you suggest that people look to understand these extremely nebulous dynamics if they aren't good at reading social cues, navigating the subtleties of the sexual marketplace, etc.? Legitimately curious - I don't personally think TRP is necessarily the answer, but it's a shitload better than flying blind or not having any grasp on how these things work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 09:51 PM |
| 26 | (Part of) why "The Red Pill" is so off-putting to non Red Pill peopleI'm not exactly sure what the point of this post is... it seems like your view that you want challenged is: "TRP makes people uncomfortable because it interprets the world/social interactions differently from how they interpret those things and that makes people uncomfortable." That seems like a pretty self-evident statement. To try and challenge your post though, I offer this: You say that flirting and casual sex/dating and all of that is just kind of fun and lighthearted and people do it just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 09:48 PM |
| -2 | Are all Women manipulative?Time, dignity and effort The only one of those that really applies in this situation is dignity. Unless you're really going out of your way, being flirty with a cashier won't significantly change the amount of time you spend on the interaction. Additionally, unless you have horrible social anxiety or something, I would hardly say it takes much "effort". The dignity angle makes the most sense, but I'm still not so sure about it. Using flirtation/sexuality to get something out of another person ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 09:31 PM |
| 2 | Are all Women manipulative?This comment is hilarious. As someone who actively engaged that question, you have me laughing at myself as well. I wonder what made me turn out like this... Hmm... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Are all Women manipulative?Why not fuck someone for free food? This seems pretty self-evident but: This takes an actual time investment. Also in the case of the OP's example it's not logistically feasible. If you're not actually attracted to the person at all, it will probably be a horribly uncomfortable experience - a bigger cost than spending a few bucks. You could catch a disease. Potential for unwanted pregnancy. Most people would judge you harshly if they knew about it. Leading someone toward doing shit for you by da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Are all Women manipulative?Can you elaborate on what you mean by physical intimidation isn't an option for guys? The person you're responding to said physical manipulation usually isn't an option for men. Because, by definition, most men are going to be close to average size/strength and this don't have a huge leg up on anyone they want to intimidate. I used to date a black guy that was 6' 5", 220 pounds of nearly pure muscle. Obviously, this is not the "usual" stat sheet for the average guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 06:59 PM |
| 3 | Are all Women manipulative?(Also, really...?) I don't know why anyone would not flirt their way to getting anything free. I can see why you wouldn't fuck someone for free guac, obviously, but why not take the tiny tiny bit of effort needed to flirt if it will save you money or get you things? Hell, in highschool I had a coffee shop I went to almost daily and I didn't pay for anything the second half of my senior year. As a guy, this is extremely rare (pretty much a unique instance in my life), but it saved me a ton of mon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 06:56 PM |
| 3 | The RedPill narrative is that women often sleep with guys out of their league, then settle down with a less attractive guy for marriage (beta), for those that disagree, what exactly do you disagree about?Things can still be OK, sure. But I know I've been at least a little disappointed and frustrated with every girl I've been with since dating a 115 lb, 5'9", 18 year old blonde for a year a while back. Even one girl I absolutely loved as a person who was better in bed left me missing the hotter one - she was hot too, just not like model/porn star level perfect body hot. Basically, in my mind now that experience is how sex should be, or what I actually want, and all of the more realistic looking g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 06:50 PM |
| 3 | Why do Redpillers tend to desire multiple casual partners as opposed to a stable long term girlfriend? Just curiousIf I'm the exception, why doesn't society support it? Why aren't there more women out there who are totally OK with their SO sleeping around? Because the biological drives of men have very little bearing on what a woman wants out of a relationship? This point proves absolutely nothing. "Women don't want their men sleeping around, therefore men must not have the biological impetus to sleep around"... Makes no sense. Your analogy is flawed. If you can find 100 women you know who would be happy wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 03:38 PM |
| 2 | The RedPill narrative is that women often sleep with guys out of their league, then settle down with a less attractive guy for marriage (beta), for those that disagree, what exactly do you disagree about?Yeah, but if you fucked the VS HB11 for a while, it would make your later sexual partners seem really shitty and underwhelming by comparison. The whole point is that women CAN fuck the insanely attractive guys because guys have lower standards for one night stands than women do. So it's conceivable that a normal women could fuck that 11 while younger and then never find someone who matches up, even if they're a great guy and wonderful husband. Even if I end up with the sweetest girl in the world… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 03:27 PM |
| 1 | "Taking the red pill" means to understand that society is sexist but deciding to exploit that instead of changing it.Being hot makes the sex better over about any other factor, at least in my experience. The hottest, thinnest, blondest girlfriend I had was totally inexperienced in bed and kind of awkward - and definitely not the best relationship I've had on a personal level. But no sex with any of the girls I've been with since has lived up (even with a girl who I was head over heels in love with who was also really skilled). Fucking a girl who looks like a model is more enjoyable than sex with an average or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 02:25 PM |
| 7 | Why do Redpillers tend to desire multiple casual partners as opposed to a stable long term girlfriend? Just curiousOh my god, as soon as I saw the claim that guys are wired for variety I knew that you would show up and throw yourself out there as a counter example. You are an exception rather than the rule. Do you really think that if you asked 100 guys "would you like to be able to have sex with a new woman whenever you wanted" they would say no? Okay, maybe they have a girlfriend they care about. Throw in "and your girlfriend fully supports this". Are you honestly going to claim that more than a handful (a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/15 12:36 AM |
| 3 | "Taking the red pill" means to understand that society is sexist but deciding to exploit that instead of changing it.No, she has the capacity to bring happiness into my life. I value about people who can make my life more enjoyable. I'd much rather be with a hot girl than a funny girl. And personally, I'd much rather provide sexual pleasure and arousal than anything else. Since that's pretty much the best thing a person can give to another. TL;DR: Being hot makes her better than most people because she has the capacity to bring way more to the table than someone who isn't a sexual prospect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Would you "spin a plate" that has her own soft harem?Definitely. Based on where I am in my life right now I'm really not looking to get into a serious relationship, and so if she has other options as well she's less likely to get attached or demand exclusivity. I'm not enough of a dick to lead on a girl and keep spinning a plate if she's going to get hurt or misinterpret the seriousness of things, so her having her own soft harem means it's more likely we'll be able to keep going at it without emotions blowing everything up. One of my plates is a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 10:04 PM |
| 3 | "Taking the red pill" means to understand that society is sexist but deciding to exploit that instead of changing it.Hey, I dunno about you, but a really hot woman has the potential to give me way more value than anyone else. I appreciate sex more than what most people have to offer. It's hardly a bad thing to be noticed/wanted for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 03:04 PM |
| 3 | Why do Redpillers tend to desire multiple casual partners as opposed to a stable long term girlfriend? Just curiousI've done the LTR thing my whole adolescence-young adult life with a few girls before realizing that I was putting SO much in and not having as much freedom as I do while I'm single. Plus, while I'm young, I want to have as much sex with as many hot women as possible. It's fun. More fun than banging the same girl for months/years on end. There is something to be said for feeling out each other's tastes and learning what works well, so I think fuckbuddy/FWB situations are ideal. Gives you time to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 02:31 PM |
| 2 | The RedPill narrative is that women often sleep with guys out of their league, then settle down with a less attractive guy for marriage (beta), for those that disagree, what exactly do you disagree about?Going out to the club looking for a fling, you'll mostly care about how hot the guy is, not how smart or stable or whether or not he'd be a good dad. Physical attraction is the only factor. For a husband, you need compatibility, chemistry, similar goals and values, intelligence, etc. along with physical attraction. Therefore a woman may choose a less hot guy who happens to be a great match otherwise. The problem that red pill guys have with this is: The guys getting sex because they're hot will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 05:40 AM |
| 1 | The relationship between multiple sex partners and anxiety, depression, and substance dependence disordersDo you think being an addict might be correlated with recreational drug use? Maybe, just maybe, if you compare a group of people much more likely to try drugs to a group of people much less likely to try drugs, the group more likely to try them would have a higher rate of addiction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 05:27 AM |
| 1 | Can the Redpill make your life worse?I mean, I've seen some pretty logically abhorrent arguments from both sides that clearly have NO understanding of how evolution or psychology work in the slightest. But the duality of female sexuality is pretty well supported by psychological literature. I mean, just look at that study about how their preferences change between familiar/feminine characteristics and more dominant/masculine characteristics depending on where they are in their ovulation cycle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 12:25 AM |
| 1 | The relationship between multiple sex partners and anxiety, depression, and substance dependence disordersYes, and the most obvious/simple explanation (given what is already known about psychology/behavior) is that some people are more likely to engage in impulsive/risky behaviors for instant gratification. Naturally these people would be more likely to engage in both casual sex and recreational drugs. This is well established in the psychological community, and it seems to be a stable trait over time, a relatively innate part of your personality. Here's one study trying to explain the physiological… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Can the Redpill make your life worse?Yeah, but regardless of how well-adjusted you are, if you're sleeping around it has a lot more to do with shallow/primal factors than long term mate selection, which means TRP is relatively more valid in that sphere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/15 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Can the Redpill make your life worse?I feel like TRP's view on relationships is so jaded because they tried to get into relationships with girls like my ex, rather than being picky and figuring out who would make the best girlfriend. Yeah, I was in one horrible relationship a while back with a girl who was basically the caricature of the TRP perspective on women. Had borderline personality disorder, dated me for stability and support while going out and fucking frat guys, etc. She's definitely the exception rather than the rule in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Can the Redpill make your life worse?the scope is far too limited and the community is extremely toxic I agree entirely. I don't go to TRP because the community is so negative and angry. The PPD community is less of an echo chamber (though prone to circle jerking), and people like you tend to keep the perspective a bit more well-rounded. The people it applies to are those that want casual sex and from what I have seen anecdotally (so I mean, maybe we are seeing different things), nobody I am close with is into that scene, nor am I.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 10:52 PM |
| 6 | Can the Redpill make your life worse?To play devil's advocate here, TRP is just acknowledging an unhealthy dynamic that exists in modern society between men and women. RP acknowledges that 80% of guys are not going to have the kind of success they want and are most likely going to be relegated to accepting long term, high investment relationships in order to get mediocre sex rather than being able to go out and fuck a variety of hot women without having to put up with the incredible costs of being a "boyfriend" and "provider". So y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 08:48 PM |
| 6 | Is There A Lot of Sexual Implication Behind "Let's Meet For a Drink"?This. If it's the first time you've ever gone out somewhere with a girl one on one, I think there's a pretty strong sexual implication. Every time I've asked a casual acquaintance who I've never really spent time with out for a drink it's very clearly a "date" or rather a situation that will lead to a hookup. However, I always aim to be flirty and make my intentions obvious before that point - plus the way I act once we're out for a drink clarifies that even further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Women have dualistic dating strategies, and look for different qualities in men at different stages of their life.Eh, I have guy friends who have said (and I quote) that "going out trying to get laid is douchey". If you meet someone and happen to have sex with them, apparently that's fine. But going out and strategically trying to get a girl into bed with you is somehow a scummy thing to do. Obviously lying and stringing girls along and falsely representing your intentions is morally questionable, but that's not what I'm talking about. As a guy who grew up in the Midwest, I have definitely spent a lot of my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 04:48 PM |
| 8 | Women have dualistic dating strategies, and look for different qualities in men at different stages of their life.IMHO I don't see men demonized for casual sex. I see men demonized for being assholes, misogynistic, etc... But not for having sex. Well it probably depends on where/how you were brought up. I definitely had to learn for myself that it was completely okay to sexually pursue girls who I have no interest in on a personal/emotional level and without any kind of commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Women have dualistic dating strategies, and look for different qualities in men at different stages of their life.God, having a fat housekeeper instead of a wife sounds like the worst case scenario. Maybe some guys don't care at all about sex, but the option you just described sounds like a nightmare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 04:08 PM |
| 13 | Women have dualistic dating strategies, and look for different qualities in men at different stages of their life.But in mainstream society it's not really seen as a morally acceptable approach. It's made plain that men want to act this way, but those men are "pigs" that are demonized for doing that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/15 03:39 PM |
| 1 | If a prostitute has sex with a man and then the man doesn't pay her, is it rape?Well after her spending the night last night off the clock (and not on molly), it appears that we're actually pretty similar people. She's a cool gal. Probably wouldn't have been able to figure that out in the initial hour though without the molly though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 03:53 PM |
| 1 | If a prostitute has sex with a man and then the man doesn't pay her, is it rape?Yeah she's been doing this for a month and looks clean enough. Spent the night last night and got her real name and talked a lot about where we both came from, so now she's more like a FWB I have that happens to be a hooker. Is it incredibly risky? Yep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 03:52 PM |
| 1 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?Nice, let's campaign to get everyone on board with this human engineering initiative | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 08:00 AM |
| 3 | If a prostitute has sex with a man and then the man doesn't pay her, is it rape?I mean, I decided to try it, took some molly and got one through an agency that I checked on the erotic review, when she got here, she was a girl my age and I told her I was on molly, and she asked if she could have some and I had no problem with that. Then we banged and hung out for like an hour and a half and really got along, so she gave me her personal number and now we apparently are fuckbuddies. So I'd say pretty amazing and much better than expected, huge confidence boost. Probably not a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 07:48 AM |
| 0 | If a prostitute has sex with a man and then the man doesn't pay her, is it rape?Funny story, I have a prostitute coming over right now for free because we got along so well the first time and she wants to hang out and bang off the clock. It was the first time I ever got a prostitute, and this is definitely not how I expected things to go. Very weird. #humblebrag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 05:30 AM |
| 3 | How many of you have children? If you don't have children now, do you anticipate that you will have children within, say, the next 5-10 years?None right now. I'm 23, and I don't plan on having kids until I'm in my 30s. If I don't meet a woman who I would want to spend the rest of my life with, I won't settle just to have a family though. I think that's where a ton of people go wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Sociobiological theories of rapeBut studying other crimes is fine. Because no one has ever been hurt by murder. Also, I had a friend who killed himself by shooting himself in the head because of opiate addiction. I don't think people should feel guilty for discussing the causes of suicide and addiction, or discussing gun control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 01:25 AM |
| 1 | CMV: (Most) Women want to be raped (or, as they call it, "ravished") by an attractive man.just like all the other human beings out there who walk around absolutely certain that their specific belief system is right and everyone else's is wrong. We need to have a day where everyone on PPD drops acid so we can cut through this inevitable failing of human nature. That's what pulled me back from TRP. I do see the evidence for some of their philosophies, but I also know everything I believe could easily be wrong. Gotta keep an open mind. And a lot of people say that, but very few seem to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 12:59 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Sociobiological theories of rapeAnd no, just because it seems to be a very real aspect of human nature and may have an evolutionary basis doesn't justify it on moral, ethical, or legal grounds. Any more than the fact that human beings are prone to violence, selfishness, or any of the other negative characteristics generally associated with human nature are legitimate moral, ethical, or legal justifications for acting on those characteristics. Thank you for putting this so eloquently. People are so ridiculously touchy about rap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 12:51 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Sociobiological theories of rapeIf you notice, these rape threads rarely, if ever, have any sort of "sexual strategy" bend. Which is a very good thing. It's never "here's how to use rape fantasies to your advantage" or "this is why rape is OK". Despite the way people love to label terpers as misogynists, they're generally not advocating rape, at least not the ones here at PPD. I don't really go to TRP as a sub, so I can't speak to that. These are just interesting discussions about where sexual fantasies come from, how the spec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/15 12:48 AM |
| 2 | CMV: (Most) Women want to be raped (or, as they call it, "ravished") by an attractive man.Lots of people do this in this sub - reds and blues. Lots of OPs who are 100% convinced of their correctness and, to put it bluntly, most probably aren't even able to understand what being 'open' to argument would actually mean, let alone have a capacity for it. Agreed. However, I think that even if the OP in a CMV thread isn't actually open minded (and a lot of the commenters suck too), there are still enough people here who actually want to debate and take other people's perspectives into acco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 10:44 PM |
| 9 | CMV: (Most) Women want to be raped (or, as they call it, "ravished") by an attractive man.it would be fucking crazy to assume that a girl would want to be raped and then rape them on "the off-chance" that they're into that shit. That's the key point. I think the odds of you (the general you) being the right guy and the situation being just right are almost 0. There's no possible way to know that what you're doing isn't actually horrific and so regardless of if some women would want some guys in some situations to do that, it's pretty much a moot point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 10:40 PM |
| 1 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?See, I'm good at going about completely unreasonable things in the most reasonable way possible. Everyone wins? Except billions of average people who want kids. But, you know, that's kind of mean to make an unattractive kid anyhow. I'm preventing child abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 10:33 PM |
| 3 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?Also, I don't want to be killed. :P Oh, no one would be killed in this plan. We would just let the attractive people breed, and after a generation or so the unattractive people would naturally die off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 09:28 PM |
| 3 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?I'm really sad to hear that. By focusing on physical looks more than anything else, you made your future relationships worse. You're right, nobody can match up to perfection. However, your criteria are very different than what most people would call "attraction". See, I would call that first relationship bad, because of lack of emotional intimacy. But eyes of the beholder and all that. I agree, it sucks. However I didn't really make the choice to prioritize things this way, otherwise I wouldn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 07:50 PM |
| 3 | CMV: (Most) Women want to be raped (or, as they call it, "ravished") by an attractive man.This is exactly the level of contentless non-rebuttal that he talks about in his original post. I don't even agree with him, but Jesus Christ I wish there was more intelligent discourse in PPD. Anyway, this is purely speculation but I'll at least try to argue a point with some content. In a rape fantasy, the rapist is a construction of the woman's mind, and thus she's actually in complete control. Although the uncontrollable desire is definitely a turn on, she at no point could feel like she's l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Is /r/PurplePillDebate totally heteronormative?This post makes some great points even beyond the "more objective third party" idea. I would love it if /u/sizzlebutt666 stuck around. Great name, by the way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 05:14 PM |
| 5 | Is /r/PurplePillDebate totally heteronormative?Yep. Almost no one in these debates has any distance from the issues. Whether they're sexually frustrated straight virgins, feminist BP guys who are in a serious relationship, "alpha" RP types who have a lot of casual sex - regardless of their situation, straight people are going to have some kind of bias. On the other side of the same coin, being more removed from these dynamics may also mean you don't have much relevant info to add as /u/Cyralea said, but I think just having a more objective c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 05:11 PM |
| 3 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?Hey, if anyone enjoys reading fucked up rants of a guy who is plagued by being both shallow and average looking, I'm happy to provide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Question for Blue: What do you look for in a mate?I'm jealous; that's actually an awesome way to be. I wish I could judge more on personality, but personality is more of a secondary concern for me. Unless a girl is really hot, I feel like sex is intrinsically subpar (and I know this because 5/6 of the girls I've had sex with were disappointing to me, even if they were decently cute). Banging really hot girls is something that's very important to me, so I'm not going to close myself off to that option. Which means in order to even think about ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 04:14 PM |
| 6 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?See, I think your perspective is much more in line with the general population. However, I just don't agree with a lot of points you made. This is where one would say "rabble rabble rabble Nazi rabble". The Nazi party were big proponents of eugenics, it's kind of a touchy subject to most people. In no way am I calling you a Nazi, I just wanted to explain why some people push back at that idea. First, I completely understand the Nazi connection and why people would not be into this idea. I don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/15 04:02 PM |
| 2 | TBP isn't a satire subreddit because satire is funnyAmerican Beauty "Well, actually, Janine is Senior Drive-thru Manager so you are on her turf." Lester Burnham is a funny motherfucker. Don't even | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Do you think female sexual plurality ("Alpha fucks Beta bucks") is real? Do you think women sexually respond differently to high status ("alpha") versus low status ("beta") men?I think this is a real duality that exists, but "beta" and "alpha" are in the eye of the female beholder. I realized this after getting out of a long term relationship where I was definitely much more beta and didn't get sex a fraction of the time I wanted it - and a couple months later getting into a fuckbuddy situation with a girl on Tinder. I had been working out for a little while and I had gotten into Seddit (though not TRP yet). Anyway, I went into our first "date" and acted as dominant an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 10:33 PM |
| 2 | Is the purpose of the term "plate" to dehumanize women?i don't think that's abnormal. i think what many term fwb doesn't rise to the level of friendship for both parties if you part way after sex stops (thus fwb is not an accurate term in many of those cases). Yeah, that's the difference between a fuckbuddy and a FWB. And either of those situations is totally healthy as long as both parties are on the same page IMO. I know I'm jumping into this exchange late in the game, but what is inherently fucked up about two people who really just have sex with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 10:20 PM |
| 4 | Is the purpose of the term "plate" to dehumanize women?So is operating a drug cartel. You say that like it's not impressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 10:12 PM |
| 5 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?Hahaha sorry about that, the end was intentionally hyperbolic. As someone who was born with mediocre genetics, I am kind of resentful that more thought isn't put into engineering the human race so people don't have to live the life of an average looking person, but I know that most people probably disagree with that. Anyway, the connection between those ideas is that everyone wants to be with the sexiest people of whatever gender they're attracted to, and tends to ignore the less appealing optio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 09:54 PM |
| 3 | In what ways is the red pill LTR similar to or different from conventional Male/female, Dominant/submissive relationships?I think that community has to really really stress respect, openness, honesty, etc - because without that some BDSM stuff could quickly veer into serial killer territory. They want to distance themselves as much as possible with anything that has the connotation of manipulation or dishonesty, and TRP definitely has a pretty bad rep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 09:49 PM |
| 3 | How redpill tactics fit into the prominent model of love styles, and what that means for themselves and their relationships - redpill thoughts?From this, we can conclude that people who use 'game' are narcissistic, insecure, non-conscientious, sexually coercive, neurotic, emotionally-distant, unsympathetic people who report lower levels of relationship satisfaction and success. I don't disagree with this. I think the more I actively try to get into 'game' and Red Pill Philosophy, the more all of those things seem to apply to me (and vice-versa, the more I become those things the more I get into game/RP). However, I'm at the point in my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 09:31 PM |
| 0 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.the quality of the fuck is based on skill. not looks. Enjoy your blanket statements, but that's so far from true for me. The best sex I ever had was with my ex who was a skinny blonde with a model-esque body. She had only had sex once before we dated (she was 18, I was 20), and she was not skilled at all in bed. She didn't do the limp starfish thing, she just wasn't that great. However, at 115lbs and 5'9", her body was unbelievable. Like better than anything I ever expected to experience in real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 08:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.there is no product differentiation (in this case all pussies are created equal) That's simply not true. A girl who is a perfect 10 has much much higher sexual value than some fat girl. Like 10x as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 08:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.Well, I've been at this for a while now, since around late last summer, so it sounds like I'm on the right track so far. Pretty much through steps 1 and 2 (and recently quitting weed has helped with that a lot). Need to learn how to flirt; that's kind of my sticking point right now. My sticking point is kind of this though - You approach a chick at a bar If she not into you it will be obvious. Either I'm too pessimistic in reading signals or I'm doing something horribly wrong, because this seems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 07:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.Hmm... this flies in the face of everything I know to be true, but then again, I refuse to be one of these TRP/TBP adherents who cherry picks unsubstantiated claims only when they fall in line with my preconceived notions. Claiming to have banged a couple of tens as someone who is "very overweight" really stretches my suspension of disbelief though - I mean, most nights when I go out I don't even see any 10s. Are you a big guy? Not just the weight, but are you pretty tall? I feel like even if yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 07:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.Hmm, an inspiring account for sure, and I don't doubt your experiences. Over at Seddit the whole "looks are overrated" idea is the overriding ideology, but I've always had issues really trusting that, both from my own experience and from any sort of photo/video evidence I see from PUAs (in the rare instance that there's any evidence). It seems like the normal looking ones tend to get with very mediocre girls and the good looking/tall ones manage to bag hotties. Again, I'm not doubting your exper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 07:05 PM |
| 11 | If TRP advocates men to fuck "sluts" and marry "virgins," then why the whining with women fucking "alphas" and marrying "betas"?DINGDINGDING Most people just aren't in the sexual elite, and everyone wants to be with the sexual elite of the gender they're attracted to. So everyone blames the other gender for having standards, even though almost everyone wishes they could afford to have the same standards. The only people who are to blame are: 1. The unattractive people who have reproduced in the past 2. Scientists for not focusing more on designer babies, and 3. Governments for not implementing eugenics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 06:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.I think in terms of relationships your point holds more water. I am only thinking in terms of one night stands and casual sex here. And I think when it comes to that, women do weigh physical attractiveness above everything else - unless we're talking about guys with truly absurd amounts of money. Also, women are less predisposed to casual sex whereas guys go out actively looking for it. For these reasons, I don't think the sexual market will ever level off, but the relationship market may. Hones… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 06:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.I think you need to differentiate between attractive and unattractive people a bit more. Sex isn't a commodity because sex with a dime piece is much much more valued and desired than sex with a dumpy 5. The problem is that the attractiveness distribution for men (as perceived by women) is all fucked up. Men judge women on a pretty normal bell curve centered at "average". However, women judge MOST men as below average. I think this is a major part of the sexual market's inequality. Hot guys have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 06:21 PM |
| 2 | CMV the SMP is socially constructed not part of gender estentialism in the modern day.men's sexuality is not being judged, it's not being shamed, it's not seen as wrong. Men are pigs The male gaze is evil Men only think about one thing Men are all rapists You seriously think men's sexuality isn't demonized in a post-feminist society? Seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 05:41 PM |
| 4 | Still Think Seduction Heuristics Aren't Evidence-Based?Yep. I feel like BPers have never been to a party, or a bar, or just out on the street. When tall, handsome, charming (the least important of the 3) guys come around, girls act a lot more like men in the sense that they're interested in banging pretty much right off the bat. So, given that women do act this way around men that are actually attractive to them, its clear that they're settling for something else when they go with the non-model guys who they had to "get to know first". And if the gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 05:33 PM |
| 7 | If TRP is about "male sexual strategy", why slut-shame?It's totally jealousy for me. I used to despise slutty girls, but the more casual sex I've managed to have, the less it bothers me. At this point I actually don't see slutty girls as lesser or lack respect for them or anything - they tend to be the girls I like more. I'm still incredibly jealous of how easy they have it, but I don't fault them for it. Life isn't fair, and if it was as easy for me as it is for them I'd be a gigantic slut too. However, I definitely judge girls who lead guys on in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 05:14 PM |
| -1 | Don't get the whole slut-shaming going on in the RPW and TRP.I also don't buy the whole "slut isn't a bad word" argument. It is an insult assuming that it's being used in general company that doesn't know what you mean by it. I'm fairly certain that all of my close friends know that if I say a girl is a slut, I mean that as a positive. Girls who don't have lots of casual sex offer pretty much no benefit to me, as I'm not looking for a relationship. The girls I want to be friends with are the ones who: Enjoy drugs and Have lots of sex for fun (rather than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 04:50 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)Lots of women aren't stopping me from getting laid but they won't come home with me and fuck which makes it harder :( Don't you see this is the EXACT SAME THING? You said we should "try making [women getting married] a reality" because "a lot of women want to get married." Essentially, you're saying men should make a gigantic life choice regardless of what they want in order to make a lot of women more happy. UofT pointed out the absurdity of that by saying that we should "try making [men gettin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 04:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)Maybe that says something about your level of discourse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/15 03:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)I think every person should be required to make a Tinder as a female and a male and try to use to for a week. So many girls I know simply do not understand how easy they have it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 11:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)Well if men want to ... I'm not going to stop them :/. And no one is "stopping you" from getting married any more than you're "stopping them [men]" from getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 11:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)For 2.5 years I dated an alcoholic feminist who won "Most Likely to Never Be Wrong" at the end of highschool. Once I got out of college and started working to support us, that fell apart VERY quickly. There's nothing worse than coming home after an 11 hour day to an argumentative drunk who wants to talk about all of the "atrocities" she learned about in her Women's Study's class. God, I'm so glad I woke up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)And yet instead of replies of "I wouldn't marry one, but I respect their accomplishments" and get "but that's not sexy". Curious and telling of how TRPers think. This is a thread about marriage rates. The OP's whole hypothesis was about how the rate is dropping because men don't want to wife career women. People not appreciating your efforts is just a function of the fact that they're irrelevant to the discussion aside from how they affect your likelihood to be proposed to. Does that mean that y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:38 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)I respect a woman who has risen in the business world just as much as a man who has risen in the business world - a bit. It's definitely an accomplishment, but being good as business isn't really something I respect that much no matter what. If a woman or man does something like invents a new service I love or directs an amazing movie, then I'll respect either one a lot. If a woman or man rises to the top of the corporate pecking order at Walmart, then good for them, I do somewhat respect them, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:28 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)But the sexual relationship is the most important thing to consider, because she would be the only person I could do that with. This is the key point. When you get married, you are locking yourself off from sex with ANYONE ELSE. Unless you're getting the best of the best in the sex department, it makes no sense to limit yourself like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Fun conversation points, games etc. you use when getting drinks with a new girl?Hmm... I've never seen that. But I'm not shocked it's in more than one movie/show/thing | /r/seduction | 24/02/15 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Fun conversation points, games etc. you use when getting drinks with a new girl?One night we were out and I forget what it was, but our plans fell through. And for some reason that scene in It's Always Sunny popped into my head - "If you're looking for a better steak in an arcade setting, you're shit outta luck". So, marketing guys who decided to advertise on that show, good job. It worked way too well. | /r/seduction | 24/02/15 10:15 PM |
| 7 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)Reading through your post I honestly do get the impression that you're trolling. Your claims and overall mentality fit the parodies and caricatures of BP just a little too well. I figured this as well, but it looks like she's been around for a little while. Unless this is someone really devoted to running a shitty troll/parody account. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:11 PM |
| 4 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)strongalfalfa almost seems like a troll account made by someone on the RP side to make feminists look extra hypocritical. Almost like a caricature of solipsism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 10:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)Variety in your life I'm legitimately curious as to what you mean by this. How is marrying one woman more of an opportunity for variety than being with (for lack of a better term) a variety of women? a woman with a unique identity, hobbies, etc. All good things, but this seems totally removed from the marriage issue. If I'm going to be in a relationship, then the woman needs to have an identity and hobbies and a brain... But I don't see how marrying her will cause any of those things to be more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:58 PM |
| 5 | CMV: The marriage rates are decreasing because men aren't stepping up to the plate (when they should be)This actually just made me snort with laughter at my desk at work. This OP is ridiculous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:53 PM |
| 3 | As much as status matters, I think it's the very good looking guys that gets the most girls in college etc. in terms of casual sex/relationshipAnd yes the trend of very attractive guys being BP has been noted before. It's easy to buy into the mainstream narrative when as far as you know it has worked for you and rewarded you throughout your life. Yeah, I would be the nicest guy in the world if girls were throwing themselves at me all day. If I'm being a dick it's usually because I'm sexually frustrated and/or trying to compensate for my lack of SMV | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:50 PM |
| 0 | Fun conversation points, games etc. you use when getting drinks with a new girl?I was thinking the same thing... 500 Days of Summer? | /r/seduction | 24/02/15 09:45 PM |
| 9 | Fun conversation points, games etc. you use when getting drinks with a new girl?D&B's is date gold. I had a FWB where we pretty much always just went to D&B's and played Dark Escape 4D and drank, then went back to my place and had sex. That's how dates should all be. | /r/seduction | 24/02/15 09:44 PM |
| 2 | Do women put up LMR because they crave being dominated?"Torture" is obviously an exaggeration, but you clearly don't understand what intense sexual frustration is like for guys. Normal sexual frustration (not getting any for a while) is bad, but when you're in bed with a girl fooling around and then she calls it off... For me, it pretty much makes me want to kill everyone on earth. Obviously, I have no idea what it's like to be a woman, and I would never claim to, but from the way you're discussing this I can only assume it's significantly different… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Do women put up LMR because they crave being dominated?It's enjoyable, but not at all worth the maddening sexual frustration at the end when you never actually fuck. I think women have a hard time grasping what intense sexual frustration is like for guys. When you're turned on, your testosterone ramps up considerably (and most guys are already probably pretty horny before then if they're out trying to pull a girl back home.) You know when you stub your toe - that infuriating feeling where you want to throw the fridge you accidentally kicked out the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 09:07 PM |
| 6 | Redpill guys looking for LTRs/marriage: how do you feel about a woman who wants to wait to have sex?Regardless of if he can "decode" her statements or not, I think this is an incredibly good point that illustrates why guys would have a problem with this thinking: She loves you more so she gives you less and makes you perform like a monkey to earn it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Why do women hold out (typically beta but not always) men in long term relationships sexually?Alternative explanation: putting out early doesn't drive the guys away, it just means that he got from you what he wanted. As a guy, I never really understood this unless the sex was bad. If a girl is hot but I don't really like her as a person, things can go a few ways: She doesn't put out, and so I end up bailing pretty early. If it seems like it'll be too much effort to actually get what I want, I'm not going to hang out with a girl I dislike. We do have sex and it's enjoyable. This actually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Why do women hold out (typically beta but not always) men in long term relationships sexually?Ironically enough, behaving like "wife material" is the first thing I will dismiss a woman for a possible LTR. I want a woman who is viscerally sexually attracted to me, not one who's gonna lay back like a limp starfish and let me masturbate into her vagina 3 times a week. Yep. Girls who fuck me more quickly off the bat and are more dirty about it are much much more likely to be considered relationship material. Sex is incredibly important to me, so I'd never entertain the idea of committing to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/15 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.Intelligence doesn't guarantee you won't end up with a fucked up world view. Some of the smartest (most intellectual) people I've known have been the least functional in a practical sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:52 AM |
| 2 | Red Pillers: To what extent do you care what women actually want or think?if you ever get type 2 herpes, will you tell every partner prior to sex that you have it? condoms don't protect against herpes transmission. Yes; I'm not a psychopath. I know it's a real risk. But at this moment, having TOO MANY sex partners is not looking like it's gonna be a problem any time soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.I guess what I'm saying is: TRPers tend to have more intellect but are less stable and have a warped world view. Intelligent people can end up in pretty bad mental ruts because they're smart enough to justify anything to themselves. TBP people are just not very smart, though probably more well adjusted on average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:49 AM |
| 6 | Why do Bluepillers object so stridently sexual realpolitik?I feel like past 30, men will care more about all that. I'm not totally on board with TRP, but for me (as a 23 year old male), right now looks are the most important thing a girl has to offer, because I'm not looking for marriage. I have friends and family that care about me and who I care about, so given that I'm not looking for a life partner, sex is THE unique contribution dating adds to my life. When I'm a bit older and looking for a wife, then I still have to be attracted to her, but person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:31 AM |
| -2 | Study confirms that women with fewer sexual partners have higher quality marriages (confirms TRP theory about 'alpha widows')This doesn't surprise me. As a guy, since I dated a 20 year old 115lb 5'9" blonde, I have not been legitimately happy with the sex I've had with any girl since. Even the girl who I was in love with and dated for 2.5 years (who was better in bed too, but didn't have a model body) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:08 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.So do you subscribe to RedPill thought? I honestly can't tell. Because you're kind of making the point that all women want the same thing (a committed relationship), and if they make a decision to want something else (casual sex), they're either lying to themselves or lying to their partner in the desperate hope that their partner will fall for them and propose a true relationship? I dunno about that. I think in general girls want relationships more than guys on average, but I've known some girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/15 12:04 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.If, by your definition, friends can't have sex with each other, then I agree. By your definition, we were not friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 11:59 PM |
| 2 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.I never said TRP philosophy was necessarily more inherently logical, just that TRPers are much much better at arguing in a logical manner and debating point by point. Someone could write a very clear point by point post about why they think the world is flat. Another person could come in and comment "LOL ITS JUST NOT". The first person may be better at arguing even if they're wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Red Pillers: To what extent do you care what women actually want or think?i think you are ascribing male behavioral preferences to females. You're 100% right on that, not sure what I was thinking there. how many women have you had sex with? how knowledgeable are you on herpes because the higher your partner count the more likely you are to get it. Only 6, and half of those were within the confines of a relationship. Hence my intense focus on getting better in this realm. As for the STD thing, I think this seems pretty reasonable. Obviously there's a bigger risk of STD… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 11:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.So the implication here is that I'm a sociopath, right? What's your basis for thinking that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 11:41 PM |
| 5 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.See, you just argued well. I respect that. You're acting like I'm a dogmatic terper though. I never said TRP is right more often, just that they argue in a far more effective and well formulated way than the people who are generally opposing them. My exact quote was "I can respect that [clear and logical arguing] even if I disagree with any of the points they're making." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 11:39 PM |
| 32 | Question for both sides as a non-TRPer and non-BPer.This. BP posters so often fit the stereotype of literally not understanding how to argue logically. So many emotional statements or "you're just wrong", whereas TRP posters argue well and present points clearly. I can respect that even if I disagree with any of the points they're making. BP, in practice, ends up more like one big piece of evidence against feminists and white knights - it sure makes them look less intelligent than the people they're trying to mock or disagree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers: To what extent do you care what women actually want or think?I'm not sure how much of that, if any, is aligned with TRP. I would have said basically everything above before I knew what TRP was. I'm just using it to better inform my aggressive immediate strategy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 06:25 PM |
| 2 | Red Pillers: To what extent do you care what women actually want or think?So, just to clarify, the major motivation for you to follow the RP philosophy usually has to do with being able to get girls to have sex with you? Definitely. It's a sexual strategy sub. And it seems that you have different behaviors towards women you just want to have sex with and women you want to be in a relationship with... is there a reason for that dichotomy? The reason is that once you stray into "boyfriend material" territory, it's more likely the girl will want to hold off on sex. Maybe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:53 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.What would you call a girl with whom you: Hang out, at most, once every week or two Play videogames, go to bars, get drive-thru when you're hungry Never get into intimate or emotional conversations Have sex A non-exclusive girlfriend? I think it lacked the emotional intimacy to count that way. I think it was a pretty textbook FWB situation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.I don't understand this "keep what you can get" mentality It's easier to keep banging the same girl than to seduce a new one. I keep plates spinning as long as possible, but like I said, I'm always up front about my lack of emotional availability. If a girl chooses to continue to have sex with me, that's her choice. Is she emotionally messing herself up? Not necessarily. It is possible, but as long as I'm up front I'm not forcing that on her. I'll continue to take what I can get as long as I'm n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:37 PM |
| 9 | Red Pillers: To what extent do you care what women actually want or think?I'm not a strict RP adherent, but I definitely lean that way. I'll take you at your word and assume you do know what you want. I think that exceptions to the RP rules are a lot more common than they think. However, I think that RP strategy applies to a LOT of girls, and it doubly applies with the super hot girls who are out at a club looking to get laid. I'm interested in casual sex with as many good looking women as possible. So I think taking the RP approach makes sense from a statistics persp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 05:00 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Oh, I think RP is very much overstepping reality in a lot of its stances, and acts like "exceptions" are 1 in a million. I think everyone is SOMEWHAT like TRP describes but it varies wildly from person to person. The fact that she got herself into a committed relationship when I was too busy to see her for a couple months does point to the fact that she was probably unsatisfied on some level, but I don't think it was a serious problem for her (or she hid it well because she knew I wouldn't want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Red pillers, why is Christian Grey only 27 if women are supposed to find men in their late 30s and 40s more attractive?My face isn't anything great, but it's definitely OK and, in my opinion, gets into the "attractive" range when I get to very low body fat. My problem is largely that I'm only 5'9" and, although fit, not very "big". I need to bulk up a bit, get bigger arms, bigger chest, etc. I'm definitely not at my genetic potential, but I also have no delusions that my potential will be a 10/10. I'm just trying to get from occasional sex with decent looking girls to more frequent sex with a bit better looking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Red pillers, why is Christian Grey only 27 if women are supposed to find men in their late 30s and 40s more attractive?4: They have can't phantom [sic] how easy good looking guys have it. Anyone who is stupid enough not to realize this needs to look at any of the numerous threads on /r/Tinder and elsewhere where guys put up photos of models and can literally say anything and have girls still trying to fuck them. Like right off the bat. Honestly, sometimes it's hard for me to even warrant trying since it feels like no matter what I do, I'm never going to have a life as blessed and amazing as that. But, like, suic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Consensual HuggingSome of TRP strategy does quick screening (I mean, theres strategies for different goals) , it would be the sex only approach, which I imagine helps pick up sex only girls pretty quickly. That's my point. I don't think that dogmatically following TRP is necessary (or even beneficial) for most healthy relationships - though those underlying dynamics are worth being aware of. My only point was the the TRP approach might be one of the best ways to efficiently get to the end-game of sex because it w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Consensual HuggingDefective women maybe. Hmm, here's something I'm legitimately interested in: assuming you're right, and TRP strategies like this only act on defective women... Are enough women (or people in general, honestly), "defective" that it's actually more time efficient to try these TRP strategies until you find a screwed up woman who will jump into bed with you quickly? Sure, you might get a lot of immediate rejections in the process, but think about the math in these two party scenarios: If you get rej… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 03:37 PM |
| 3 | To the TRPersIt's true that it feels "better" to not have to think about this TRP stuff. But that's the thing. If you're new to TRP, you'll always be thinking of it. Once you're a vet, you've already established yourself as a high status man (meaning you are successful physically, socially, mentally and financially). This is a great point. In an ideal life, one would effortlessly and naturally handle all of their social interactions as well as possible. They'd make friends and influence people easily. If the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 03:26 PM |
| 3 | To the TRPersI agree with you. I think the best relationships with truly compatible people are free of a lot - not all, not always - but a lot of the negative dynamics described by TRP. I'm getting into TRP because I'm sick of relationships for now and want to have: More sex with more attractive women as soon as possible once I meet them (ONS ideally) I think when you get into the world of hookup/bar/club culture, the primal evopsych underpinnings of human behavior really come to the forefront, and TRP descr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:51 PM |
| 4 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.This is your logic: "Why are all the posts on /r/leangains about IF and lifting? Why does everything have to be about fitness?" "Well, it's a sub focused on those fitness strategies so every post is going to be about those." "So you are telling me that LeanGains validates their existence through IF and lifting? No surprise there, since that's a needy attitude" Subs have certain focuses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.I think you can be friends with women, but you can't be "just" friends. I had a pretty cool FWB for the last few months of last year, we basically hung out like I do with my guy friends (played video games, went to fast food, nothing that required calculated dominance besides my general attitude). There was no pressure at all because neither one of us had any sort of romantic feelings, but we had sex multiple times every time we hung out. I would classify that as a successful male/female friends… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:28 PM |
| 13 | CMV: TRP's rigid doctrines and strategies suck all the fun out of male-female relationships.Bingo, you beat me to the punch. That's like saying "well, we went and ordered some food and looked at it, then left. It wasn't a terrible dinner, we just never actually ate." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015I'm workin' every day at it, just gotta start having patience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 04:27 AM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015That is true, so it's not that great of a perk. Point well taken. I hooked up with a girl from Tinder who was a little chubby but still had a pretty enough face, and even though she couldn't get me off, it was still a fun time. Having that at my fingertips at any time... yeah that would be kinda cool at best. It's slightly better than not having it. But it's really not anything to be envious of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 03:02 AM |
| 1 | I never thought I'd say this, but I saw an escort. It was great. Highly recommended.I've been considering this lately because it seems like an experience worth having. I went to a strip club once and I'm glad I did, even if I'm not a fan of paying for frustration. I feel the same way about banging a hooker - it's something I have to try. But it'll actually be very enjoyable, unlike the strip club. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/02/15 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Of course you'd rather be a really good looking guy than an average looking girl. That's a worthless point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Why RedPillers will simultaneously say it's easier to be a woman and that they wouldn't wave a magic wand and be a woman.23% of them do. Jesus dude, did you even read what I wrote? I don't think women latch onto trivial problems, focus on them for too long, and become angry feminists. I think unhappy women are negative because they are just naturally unhappy people, this negativity leads them to take issue with trivial things (or even imaginary things) and explain their unhappiness by attributing it to oppression. I didn't say there weren't a lot of angry feminists. I said normal women don't latch on to feminism a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Why RedPillers will simultaneously say it's easier to be a woman and that they wouldn't wave a magic wand and be a woman.You're dismissing cognitive psychology though. A person's happiness level is largely innate and stable throughout life. Bad events can make it drop for a while, but it usually returns to baseline. Good events can make it increase for a while, but again, you adapt. That's why some people are somehow just so happy all the time and some people are miserable no matter what. I think most of the unhappiness/happiness of BOTH genders is something that we explain to ourselves in a very ad hoc way. You h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Well, I gave you as many chances as I possibly could, but it looks like you're literally unable to form actual points. You also seem to have serious issues understanding that there exists any experience that differs from your own. If you're a troll, great job wasting my time. If not, you really are a great poster boy for the amazing logical abilities of feminists. I don't care if you disagree with me, but you don't know how to debate at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:03 AM |
| 1 | What if women and men just face different problems and its stupid to try to compare them?I'm leaning more and more towards a new pill: the shit-brown pill. In the sexual marketplace, the things that men tend to want are the things that are more naturally available to women (assuming equal attractiveness): frequent sex with a variety of partners, the ability to fuck someone more physically attractive than yourself, little to no investment or effort required. However, women do not appreciate this fact since they tend to want more investment and connection on more than a physical level… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 02:00 AM |
| 3 | Why RedPillers will simultaneously say it's easier to be a woman and that they wouldn't wave a magic wand and be a woman.The 6 year old with his lollypop vs. the Shakespeare scholar isn't relevant though. Because we already know that in the experience machine you will get the most enjoyment possible. That's in the definition of the whole experiment. It's like saying "What would taste better: a meal that you slaved over for hours and put all your heart into, or something that tastes better to you than anything else ever has". By definition, the thing that tastes as good as possible will taste better. The way I see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Well, you got me on that one. I made a stupid assumption. Definitely a point for you. (And I mean that non-sarcastically). I do however stand by my statement that your sex drive is more typical of the females I've known than the males. I don't mean that as an insult, it seems like it'd honestly be an advantage. Now, my point with the starving analogy was not faulty. Look at this and tell me where the error in logic is. Don't get hung up on the analogy as it's being used in a specific way, not sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 12:58 AM |
| 4 | Why RedPillers will simultaneously say it's easier to be a woman and that they wouldn't wave a magic wand and be a woman.To be fair, you've (probably) never been a man so you've never really known hard work, real rejection, true stoicism, pain, or whatever. You've probably felt some kind of watered down counterpart but not the real thing. Aside from the not so subtle insult and belittlement, what's your point here? I think this is one of those "if you're always happy then you're never happy" type deals. I didn't speculate on the REASON women didn't seem that happy about their situation, but this easily could be th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?I chose an addiction because it's a drive/urge/craving for something that isn't necessary for survival. It was stupid of me to use a second analogy after you attacked the first one instead of actually addressing the point I was making. Obviously sex drive can only 100% accurately be compared to... Sex drive. So I'll cut the analogies since they're clearly not a functional way to communicate with you. Next, I do see a therapist already. Obviously I'm not a super happy person, so it makes sense to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/15 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Are you just trolling? I'm not even sure what you're arguing. Your sex drive isn't a very constant thing and so there's no way mine can be either: either I'm lying or I'm a sex addict? Just trying to pinpoint your argument. Because the original point I was refuting was that sex drive is "easy to ignore". That's not the case for me. At best it's something I'm aware of 50% of the time - meaning moment to moment (obviously if I'm concentrating hard, discussing something disgusting with someone, etc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 11:50 PM |
| 3 | Why RedPillers will simultaneously say it's easier to be a woman and that they wouldn't wave a magic wand and be a woman.They found that very few would let themselves be plugged into the machine. This is shocking to me. I guess it depends on how you define "pleasure" but I can't understand why anyone would choose against experiencing "the most pleasurable life possible". Even if you were aware that it is simulated, that won't make you upset; it can't make you upset (even a little) because that defies the premise - otherwise that wouldn't be the most pleasurable life possible. Once you're plugged in, you will not h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 11:20 PM |
| 6 | CMV: This Article From Elite Daily is a Man's Guide To Red Pill...Written By a WomanWhy thank you. I'll stop by here while on adderall more often :D I think it helps that I only read the TRP sidebar and then searched out "rebuttal of Red Pill philosophy"- which led me here. I'm definitely not wed to any concepts, and in fact I'm actively looking to poke holes in TRP because I fucking hate dogma (thank you, periods of heavy psychedelic use). Like any sub from NoFap to Seddit to Bodybuilding, it's a bit of an echo chamber in TRP, and I think those echoes would drive me fucking in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 10:43 PM |
| 5 | CMV: This Article From Elite Daily is a Man's Guide To Red Pill...Written By a WomanYou're right. But hey, I think this is probably something everyone can agree on regardless of their medication of choice! Common ground... how beautiful :') | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 10:28 PM |
| 3 | CMV: This Article From Elite Daily is a Man's Guide To Red Pill...Written By a WomanHmmm... so I come from Seddit, kind of leaning towards TRP, and it seems this rule is interpreted differently by the two groups. Seddit's justification is "women don't even realize what they want" or think they want one thing but actually want another. Therefore, no matter who the intended audience, you can't trust women's words regarding what works with women, only their actions. And TRP's view is more "women will never tell a guy what they actually want"? Just clarifying. I'm not wed to any on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 10:24 PM |
| 21 | CMV: This Article From Elite Daily is a Man's Guide To Red Pill...Written By a WomanThis is why no one takes TRP seriously. So because they have a stupid slang phrase for "female sexual arousal", it invalidates the whole sub and school of thought? Good argument. Hey, here's another article from the same author saying that assholes get "friendzoned". She just made a tacit admission that TRP doesn't work. Busted. Oh wait, here's an article by her saying that she misses her asshole ex. I guess I'm wrong... unless.... here's an article of her showing that she knows the difference b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 10:03 PM |
| 4 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015This is a good point - more support for the "everything is stacked against everyone" shit-brown pill that I'm starting to lean towards. women were considerably more likely to engage in casual sex if they thought it was more likely they'd enjoy it a lot physically. Was there really a study needed to prove this? Why? That's like saying "people are more likely to order a dish at a restaurant if they thought it would taste good". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015An interesting point. As a straight man though, I would still rather have sex with an ugly woman than a good looking man. So I'm not quite sure that comparison works since the woman isn't going against her basic sexuality to such an extreme degree. Also, she can more than likely find someone at or around her attractiveness level. Not quite the same as fucking someone that isn't even the gender you're attracted to at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?My point was that with a MORE extreme drive that has a much BIGGER effect on your psyche (hunger), you can still have self-control (not shooting a kid). Therefore, being able to not rape is not a counterpoint to how intense and overbearing someone's sex drive can be. If you want a metaphor to describe how it feels, how about this: It's like a permanent addiction that is innately part of your brain chemistry. Are you going to tell someone who is quitting cigarettes that they shouldn't feel irrita… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 08:37 PM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Agreed. Fitness is an every day thing vs. shopping a few times a year to slowly upgrade my wardrobe and getting slightly more expensive (50 bucks) haircuts than I used to every 2 months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 08:31 PM |
| 3 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Hmm, interesting approach. I'll have to try that. Just wish my preferences didn't skew younger. My ideal is the kind of girls posted over at /r/thinspo (the more reasonable ones, not the full on skeletons) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015what percent have designed their life with that (or sex with hot girls) as their primary goal? Honestly, I don't think a huge percentage. I mean some obviously, but nowhere close to a majority. what more important for you in a girl, how they look naked or how they look in clothes, their haircut? Obviously how they look naked. And that's important as well. But proper grooming and going to the gym and dieting all address that. Once I have more money I'd be open to cosmetic surgery as well if it co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:50 PM |
| 5 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015If casual sex doesn't fulfill them the way that it does men, then how is them having access to it an advantage in real terms? Another good point. I guess the deck is really stacked against everyone. What you can easily get isn't what you want. I've had no problem keeping up strings of LTRs, for years, but I don't want that at all. If I could have sex with some random girl at the push of a button, I'd be the happiest guy alive. I'm just sick of the choice between living my life unencumbered by a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015have to put a bit of groundwork in in the way of a couple of dates so the woman knows that he won't run away the second he's done, whereas a woman can pull off a one night stand more easily. Sex is still available without resorting to prostitutes. Fair enough. If you want to invest a decent amount of at least time, if not money, you can get laid as an average guy. I'll concede the point. I still think girls have a distinct advantage in this realm, but it's not as black and white as I originally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:29 PM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015how is it possible to be a unique developed person and want what most people want? do you love the show two and half men? or other mass market stuff? Do you want a million dollars? (Of course). Just because you want one thing that everyone else wants doesn't mean you're not unique or developed. Almost all straight men would love to have sex with a supermodel. Does that mean none of them have unique characteristics? This point seems ridiculous to me. Having said that, your second point I don't ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:27 PM |
| 7 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Yeah we're definitely arguing different things. I haven't been a woman, so I wouldn't claim they have it better. I wouldn't claim men have it better either. I can't compare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015I think the kind of girl you would want to be with would rather be with a struggling filmmaker than a lame generic careerist like yourself That's debatable. I think any girl with whom I could have a lasting relationship would. But right now in life I want to have sex with the 9 in the tight short dress who everyone wants to bang. Freakishly hot girls have the deck stacked against them in terms of developing interesting personalities. get your life together and find a hot girl with a personality … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 07:00 PM |
| 12 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015It's quite literally one of the easiest (read: least effort required) ways to survive in the world. It completely supports "women have it easiest". It does not necessarily support "women have it best", which I feel like is more the point you're arguing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:55 PM |
| 5 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Is getting pumped and dumped by a stream of guys an advantage now? It's not about being pumped and dumped. It's about having guaranteed access to sex regardless of being single, putting any effort in, etc. As a girl who is average or above, you literally DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY about sex. It's not something you'll ever be completely without if you want it. That's huge. For guys, not having any sex is a real concern. Your only surefire option is getting a prostitute, and what if you don't have money… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:53 PM |
| 14 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Regardless of it being an appealing option or not, it is still an option. And there are women out there who would rather do this than work at a career. I know a few. It's always better to have more options. For a guy, if you don't want to try at life, you become homeless. Which I hope we can all agree is much worse than being a housewife. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015As someone who is pretty abnormal (I wish I was more generic. Not totally generic and boring, but closer to what is "normal" in society. I have serious problems NOT being an oddball), I feel the same as FullRevolution. I was originally going to go to film school, realized that was like gambling my entire life away at the age of 18, switched to psych, and now I'm in the world of business doing a job that's fine but not my passion at all. However, I'm on a path to make a lot of money, and I alread… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:41 PM |
| 10 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015'Hey, if you want to, you can hook your entire life to someone just so you don't have to live on the streets! Yay!' Sure, that's still a shitty way to live. But what's your option as a man if you don't want to work but also want to eat and have a roof over your head? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015I know I'm double commenting, but this is an entirely different point and I didn't want to muddy the waters by putting too much in one post. Although those points you listed are "worthless for you", they generally have the same kind of bend: You can take the easy way out. Though it's not appealing to you, can you admit that as a woman, it's easier to survive and at least have a comfortable life with much less work? If you're lazy and unambitious but don't want to starve to death or be homeless, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:16 PM |
| 0 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015I think this argument will end like this: Everything has its perks and downsides, depending on your preferences you either think it is easier to be one or the other. Alright, we're in agreement there. For someone that highly values sex but does not want a relationship at this point in life, it's hard to get past the whole Tinder effect (I would saw off my leg for an app that could get me laid by a basically endless number of at least passable girls at a moment's notice). However, I get that not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 06:11 PM |
| 0 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Way to not downvote, guys. Though I can see why my post is so abhorrent that it deserves bending the rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 05:41 PM |
| 0 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015I think you just see the top women and not the average girls. I think this is a major problem with a lot of TRP writing, and I am definitely guilty of this myself. When I think about girls out at a bar or club, I default to thinking of hot ones. Obviously this skews my perspective towards "girls have it ridiculously good", but it's not accurate for all women. This is something I only recently realized and am trying to adjust. Having said that, I do think at the average level of looks, intellect,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 04:46 PM |
| 4 | Being a young straight white women is the easiest thing to be in the West in 2015Sorry about that! New to this sub and not used to checking the thread types. I'll be more cognizant of this going forward | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?First off - this is the biggest circle jerk of a comment string ever Second - I'm not technically one of the "initiated" nor do I buy into RedPill completely, though I see some of its merits. Therefore I'm not sure what the "RedPill" response to your claim would be, but it all sounds believable to me. My only problem with that situation at this point in my life is that I in no way want to be in a relationship where I'm committed to one person who I'm also somewhat accountable to (there's account… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?That's more like having an order of pussy from Costco - one thing in bulk. I've never been to a buffet that only offers one dish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?one person a month Although you're right that a lot of LTRs are a more consistent source of sex than pretty much anything else, this is such a ridiculously low estimate of what an attractive man could pull in a month. As a very average looking guy with minimal game that's around what I can manage and it's incredibly frustrating and unsatisfying. A really good looking dominant guy with great game could easily pull 2 girls a week with any legitimate effort (Friday/Saturday, go out and hit on every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Are you really going to argue that he vast majority of men who have access to those things don't use at least 1 of them regularly? (usually porn) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?I've been hungry enough to steal because I've gone a few days without eating and didn't have enough money for stuff like rent and utilities (and obviously that wasn't a problem that fixed itself very quickly). Athough compared to starving people in third world countries you're right... But I know what it's like to not have food available for extended periods of time. It's worse than not having sex, sure, but it's the same general idea. Just because sex isn't necessary to live doesn't mean it's n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 02:12 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of this article?: 'Feminism has been hijacked by white middle-class women'When I was working a few shitty jobs to stay afloat and living with a feminist college student, it was fascinating to me how much her and her friends had to be outraged about compared to the people I worked with. My coworkers were struggling to barely scrape by, but their general attitude was so much better than the students who has everything provided for them. It's almost like some people like playing the victim or something... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?This seems like the fantasy of a man who has never had sex. In my case it's the fantasy of a man who has had the vast majority of his sexual partners within the confines of a relationship. I've only ever slept with 3 girls I wasn't dating, and only 2 of those were one-offs. The one night stands were definitely the most exciting (and validating) and the less the girl knew me or the less we talked beforehand, the better I felt about it. Probably because all of these have happened since ending my l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 01:38 AM |
| 1 | Women: Is it true there are guys you would only sleep with (but not date) and vice versa?Having enough self-control and empathy to not act on an urge doesn't mean the urge is easy to ignore. I could be starving to death and if you put a kid in front of me, gave me a gun, and told me "shoot this kid and you can have a pizza"... Guess what, I wouldn't shoot the kid. Does that mean hunger is "easy to ignore"? Just because I don't want to hurt another person to get what I want doesn't mean I'm not almost constantly aware of the drive to have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 01:27 AM |
| 1 | How often do you all masturbate? With what? What you think of pornfree and fap free?I used to watch porn and masturbate at least once per day. Went noFap from around October-December, then broke my streak and started at it again every day. Definitely had a negative effect on my mood, motivation, etc. Now I've been fap free since the beginning of January and only occasionally look at things like /r/thinspo or sexy instagrams (but no fapping). I think NoFap (the sub) is insane. I have an incredible predisposition for addiction, so that's why I don't watch porn or jerk off. I'm ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 12:59 AM |
| 1 | The population of this sub, the type of people it attracts, and the reasoning behind the ideas.I knew that was a fucking adderall post. It was really, really good. But clearly driven by amphetamines | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 12:47 AM |
| 0 | How would you defend your pill in one sentence?RedPill seems to explain a lot of what I've observed in the world and learned as a Psych major, but I'm trying my best to find compelling counter-evidence to avoid swallowing a bitter pill that may lead to even deeper unhappiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/15 12:12 AM |
| -1 | First Field Report! Holy Shit..I'm a good looking guy and I think that is a reason why I was successful. I'm sick of every positive field report lately coming from someone who is self-described as physically attractive. Is game just how you close girls if they're already attracted to you? It's starting to feel that way. | /r/seduction | 13/02/15 01:10 AM |
| 4 | Is it ethical for me, a 16 year old sophomore in High School, to date freshmen?Get your own ethics, dude. Why would the opinion of some strangers on the internet hold more weight than your own when it comes to what you think is moral and acceptable behavior for yourself? Jesus christ. | /r/seduction | 12/02/15 03:03 PM |
| 1 | How to Pick Up Girls (A Guide by Girls for Boys - from VICE): "Most of our very first PUA experiences were smuggling our way into a club with a fake ID just so some Julian Assange-looking weasel-in-a-waistcoat could tell us he can read palms."You really deserve to have a little more pride in your abilities. Not yet ;) As of now I seem to be decent with OK looking girls, but I'm definitely not pulling any stunners. Once I get to that point, then some pride will be warranted. As for now, it gets a little old being friends with girls who are cool people and hooking up with them because I enjoy their company (and because they're all that's available to me), rather than because I'm really attracted to them. | /r/seduction | 12/02/15 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Friendzone but maybe she wants casual sex?There is so much info needed before anyone can make any assessment of this situation. Your description of your interaction with her was incredibly vague. If you want to avoid complications and drama, don't shit where you eat. Like you said, sexual relationships can easily get complicated. If you don't care, then go ahead. As long as you don't give a shit about the drama, it's really her problem if things goes south (unless she's crazy and strikes back in some way) | /r/seduction | 11/02/15 06:04 PM |
| 2 | How to Pick Up Girls (A Guide by Girls for Boys - from VICE): "Most of our very first PUA experiences were smuggling our way into a club with a fake ID just so some Julian Assange-looking weasel-in-a-waistcoat could tell us he can read palms."I agree with this 110%. I would LOVE to be treated like a piece of meat. Banging some chick without saying a word to her beforehand would be the best feeling in the world. The more work that goes in, the less I feel like I actually accomplished something. That's how I feel about everything in life though. Getting an A on a test without studying or going to class is way more of an accomplishment than getting an A+ after a semester of hard work in the same class. Accomplishment = Result/Effort | /r/seduction | 11/02/15 05:59 PM |
| 1 | How to Pick Up Girls (A Guide by Girls for Boys - from VICE): "Most of our very first PUA experiences were smuggling our way into a club with a fake ID just so some Julian Assange-looking weasel-in-a-waistcoat could tell us he can read palms."Here's way way I see it - most people are largely ignored by most other people. Sure, obviously we occasionally connect with others, but think about the hundreds of people you pass each week or have short interactions with who basically don't even register. Most people in the world aren't going to give a shit about you; there's just too many people out there and we live in big societies. Now, you could have a portion of those people treat you like a sex object (which is obviously very advantageo… | /r/seduction | 11/02/15 05:54 PM |
| 1 | How to Pick Up Girls (A Guide by Girls for Boys - from VICE): "Most of our very first PUA experiences were smuggling our way into a club with a fake ID just so some Julian Assange-looking weasel-in-a-waistcoat could tell us he can read palms."You're right. No one besides a PUA could possibly consider "TL;DR" to be anything other than a brilliant rebuttal. My bad, you have some great points. | /r/seduction | 11/02/15 05:43 PM |
| 1 | So Valentines Day is coming up. As a single guy, how can I make the most if it.What's your profile look like? How do you approach the interaction? Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated. | /r/seduction | 11/02/15 04:29 PM |
| 2 | How to Pick Up Girls (A Guide by Girls for Boys - from VICE): "Most of our very first PUA experiences were smuggling our way into a club with a fake ID just so some Julian Assange-looking weasel-in-a-waistcoat could tell us he can read palms."Well, if you didn't already make yourself look like an idiot, you really sealed the deal with this gem | /r/seduction | 11/02/15 02:40 PM |
| 1 | So Valentines Day is coming up. As a single guy, how can I make the most if it.Which is pretty much the worst. I wish I had got in early when it was still a hookup app. I've hooked up with girls on tinder, but usually after messaging for at least a few days - far less satisfying than finding someone who is dtf immediately | /r/seduction | 11/02/15 12:25 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to seduction, why are the rules of the games like that?Read Models | /r/seduction | 04/02/15 02:13 PM |
| 1 | A question about wanting what we can't have.Yep, I often wonder if I just have really picky tastes or if the unobtainable factor plays a bigger role than I realize. The only time I was ever actually satisfied with a girl I've been with was this skinny blonde that I had a huge crush on through all of highschool. We got together for a year, and getting her didn't ruin the appeal, but she was also pretty emotionally unavailable and closed off so it still felt kind of like she was beyond my reach. So why was that the one time I was actually t… | /r/seduction | 04/02/15 02:12 PM |
| 2 | First mission accomplishedNext step should be having a conversation and ending by asking for a number (or rather telling her she should give you her number). I'm just starting out as well, chatted up the hot vetrinarian who gave my rat surgery and asked for her number at the end. Got rejected because of her "boyfriend", though she seemed flattered and claimed she totally would if she was single. I don't care if she was telling the truth or not, I don't care that it didn't work, the rush you get from actually going for it… | /r/seduction | 04/02/15 01:33 AM |
| 2 | Untypical relationship- Refusing KinoThen stop being played. Have you done this yet?: just text her right now and say that you don't like how the situation is and that you don't want to hang out with her anymore. Then just delete the number and move on. WHY NOT? I can't wait to see you respond to this and prove me wrong. You can do this. Don't let it continue for another second. | /r/seduction | 03/02/15 04:38 PM |
| 1 | From one girl to SO many in a few monthsI don't think he's vying for attention. I think he thinks that he has some insight when in fact, all he has to do is NOT royally fuck up. It doesn't even matter that much if he is a pushover (which we can't know from what he wrote). Again, if he's as good looking as he claims then all he really has to do is initiate, show a girl some attention, and not be a psychopath. | /r/seduction | 03/02/15 02:46 PM |
| 2 | Untypical relationship- Refusing KinoAwesome. Come back here when you've told her you're done and let us know!! I will try to remember to PM you about this in a couple of days if you don't. I know how hard it is to climb out of the quicksand | /r/seduction | 03/02/15 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Untypical relationship- Refusing KinoDude, you're out NOW. She planned something a couple months from now? Too bad. Tell her you're done. Cancel it. You owe her absolutely nothing. Did she pay for tickets for something? Did she block out time? ... Who cares? Like you said, you've "wasted enough time and money". Stop wasting your time. Seriously, if you go along with whatever she has "planned", you're just continuing to be her bitch. | /r/seduction | 03/02/15 02:05 PM |
| 4 | From one girl to SO many in a few monthsI did read everything you wrote, just to see if you rectified the post by offering anything that would benefit anyone else. You really didn't. You even just admitted that your "so called advice" is "basic shit". Yours is not a success story of learning seduction or being good at any of this, it's the story of a very good looking guy who had issues and then got over them. It doesn't add anything to the discussion here, and it's not even like YOU learned how to be good at seduction. You said yours… | /r/seduction | 03/02/15 01:56 PM |
| 5 | From one girl to SO many in a few monthsappearently i have the looks of a celebrity here(no real interest to be a model) but im reletively taller and more well endowed enough that i literally dont have to try Cool post dude. Really inspiring. | /r/seduction | 03/02/15 01:55 AM |
| 0 | Infographic: Where the Singles areHahaha it all makes sense now, BROOOOO | /r/seduction | 01/02/15 03:37 AM |
| -1 | Infographic: Where the Singles areAlright, please do enlighten me then. Why am I a douche? | /r/seduction | 31/01/15 07:13 PM |
| 3 | Infographic: Where the Singles areAnd those would be........ | /r/seduction | 30/01/15 06:29 PM |
| 27 | Infographic: Where the Singles areGod dammit Portillos, ruining my fucking life | /r/seduction | 30/01/15 06:27 PM |
| 14 | Infographic: Where the Singles areFinally moving into the city from the suburbs this weekend, and I keep seeing fucking posts about how fat all of the women in Chicago are. As someone who is almost exclusively attracted to very thin girls, am I just fucked? I mean, no matter what I gotta try, but I can't help but worry. | /r/seduction | 30/01/15 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Last 5 Girls: k-close 5/5 f-close 0/5Lol that's every job I work on, but you need to use a hell of a lot more than that | /r/seduction | 15/01/15 02:13 AM |
| 3 | Last 5 Girls: k-close 5/5 f-close 0/5Machine learning you say? Data scientist recruiter here - lookin for work, bud? But in all seriousness - Avoid just exchanging information. The first dates where I've f-closed we learned almost nothing about each other beforehand. It seems counterintuitive, but try to keep conversation more entertaining, flirty, etc. rather than factual. Be an experience, not a mundane person who she can picture living a normal boring life. Also, as another poster asked - are you pulling them home? Do you have s… | /r/seduction | 15/01/15 01:29 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Approached a HB10 at the gym. But I forgot her name. How do I ask her for it?I vote for this instead of playing some trick to get her to remind you. Trying to weasel her name out of her seems like it could easily go south. Something I read here a while back that stuck with me: a guy messed up a girl's name, and when she corrected him he said he would take her out for a drink to make it up to her or something. | /r/seduction | 18/12/14 02:17 AM |
| 3 | Why can I be bold as a nice-guy, but not as a player?If you're unable to make a serious move on a girl without putting it behind a layer of jokiness, then definitely. What else would it be? | /r/seduction | 18/12/14 01:13 AM |
| 1 | How to Seduce Intimate Girls?Yeah, you're playing on super hard mode at 15. Even if you do everything perfectly you have to find a girl who is willing to have sex at all. I would advise shooting for girls with slutty reputations at your school. Chances are that means that they've given two blowjobs and made out with a few guys, but maybe you'll get lucky and they actually fuck. TL;DR: girls are the worst in highschool | /r/seduction | 17/12/14 09:15 PM |
| 1 | HOW DO YOU DEFINE SUCCESS WITH WOMEN?While this isn't an all-encompassing definition, for my current situation and goals in life, success with women is: (n) the ability to regularly have sex with legitimately attractive women without committing to a relationship. Measured on a continuum, there isn't any discrete value at which "success" is "achieved". Basically, I see it as a sliding scale where the factors that come into play are: Frequency of sex Attractiveness of the girls Variety/number of girls Novelty or extremeness of the se… | /r/seduction | 17/12/14 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Need some insight!Dude, if you're in highschool, good luck finding wings your age to go out and chat up strangers. I think you're getting disillusioned with this because 90% of the community is outside of your age range. It sounds like you're getting decent results (or were getting decent results) - is that when you were going out with these 30 year old wings? Unfortunately, if you look at lairs and other online communities, I think you're gonna have a rough time finding someone else in highschool... Which will m… | /r/seduction | 15/12/14 06:54 PM |
| 1 | What are some key differences between boyfriend material and FWB material?Having sex every time you see each other is pretty key, as is not sleeping over. With my current FWB, I've kept up point 1 without exception but I've failed on point 2. And I've definitely gotten some weird vibes the next day that are somewhat worrisome. | /r/seduction | 15/12/14 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Things I learned on a mushroom tripI agree entirely. Tripping for FUN is usually better with other people (though not always), but when you're downing 5g of shrooms sometimes you need space and just the pressure of knowing someone else is near you can be too much. Having said that, psychedelics have helped me with my social anxiety and really changed me for the better more than any other singular thing in my adult life. They've definitely helped me be 100x better with people, even if while I'm on them I'm not always up for being … | /r/seduction | 15/12/14 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Should I pursue a girl who I know isn't interested?Questions like this belong in /r/AskSeddit As soon as you hinted around being interested you probably blew it. Getting a girl from not interested to interested is almost impossible. You gotta start either at neutral or interested if you don't want to waste your time and be extremely frustrated always | /r/seduction | 11/12/14 06:35 PM |
| 2 | How much of a hindrance is a crappy place and no car?You're definitely fine then. Being a student makes you way less creepy than any outsiders trying to bag those college girls. You're in a pretty good situation overall! | /r/seduction | 11/12/14 06:28 PM |
| 1 | How should I establish myself with a girl I have just met?/r/AskSeddit Also, read the sidebar. And Models by Mark Manson. Your question is way too broad and requires way too long to answer. Do your homework first then come back with specific questions | /r/seduction | 11/12/14 06:24 PM |
| 4 | How much of a hindrance is a crappy place and no car?Just make sure your place doesn't smell horrible and don't trash it. A bad room with a nice smelling candle, things organized, nothing smelly or dirty, etc. is better than a huge fancy apartment filled with rotten food and shitstained underwear hanging from the light fixtures. How "adult" are you? Unless you're pretty old, you can do well with the students, and they'll all have shitty places too | /r/seduction | 11/12/14 06:01 PM |
| 3 | This is the single greatest account of the difference between alpha and beta menSee, I want a story like that with a guy who isn't "clearly good looking". Of course if I was hot I could much more easily get girls to fuck around on their BFs with me. Maybe the girl in the story was just a cheater and didn't have any qualms with it, but getting a girl to fuck you that quickly when she has good reason to actively try to not be attracted to you takes more than just having the balls to try. Having said that, I'm taking a girl whose boyfriend is in another state to a Christmas pa… | /r/seduction | 11/12/14 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Trying with an "Ex-Feminist"?Why are you posting about your friend's business? Without knowing her, I have no idea if this is a bad idea or not. People believe a lot of stupid stuff in highschool-college, and it sounds like she does have some insight into the problem with feminists. On the other hand, maybe she's downplaying it and once they've been together a little while her true colors will show and it'll be bad news. WHO KNOWS | /r/seduction | 10/12/14 05:58 AM |
| 2 | The Friend Zone, A Reality check, wake up!All of the articles from this guy are just so sloppy. And that weird strike-through thing he always does barely even makes sense. I assume it's for humorous effect, but sometimes he crosses something out and replaces it with a different phrase (usually the joke seems to be that he uses a vulgar extreme phrase and then replaces it with a "kid gloves" version), but sometimes he just crosses stuff out and doesn't write anything to replace it. So the joke doesn't even make sense. If you read the sen… | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Fluctuation between states?The other comment (by gameboy1510) is great advice, but I also want to add that you're only 18 days out of a serious addiction. It'll take a little while for your brain chemistry to balance out. I know the exact feeling you're talking about and I've definitely dealt with that when quitting certain drugs... like you're soaring and can do anything and then SUDDENLY for no reason you're filled with anxiety or dread or nothing seems like it's worth doing. Be mindful, try to really take a step back a… | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 06:22 PM |
| 2 | A little exercise I do for Vocal TonalityLast week I was sick then went out to a bar where I had to yell all night. Also smoked for the first time in ages. My voice was so nice and deep for the next few days... I need to abuse my vocal cords more | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?"And on that fateful day, for the first time in the history of man, an Internet argument was resolved with civility." | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 05:25 PM |
| 2 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?I think TRP is full of psychopaths. I've only been there once (because I heard someone mention "TRP" and didn't know what it was), but we're definitely in agreement on being against that whole school of thought. I think there is a communication gap here, but I can't figure it out. I saw your post of that other TRP guy's posting history, and both quotes were disgusting, so don't lump me in with all of them. From my limited exposure, that sub seems to be filled with exactly what you said, guys who… | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 04:03 PM |
| 0 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?Maybe instead of thinking "wow, all of these downvotes disagreeing with me and upvotes supporting that other guy... Everyone here must be so messed up!" you take a step back and realize that maybe you're just wrong? | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 03:46 PM |
| 0 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?Oh dang, dude. You got me :'0 I feel bad for your girlfriend. Sounds like you're essentially advocating he tries to tempt HER into initiating. And we all know how much women love men who don't take charge and how much they just hate it when guys show their desire and act physically dominant. Again, this girl has explicitly told him she's coming over for sex. You still haven't explained (anywhere) how it would be sexual assault when she's already consented. You're treating the situation as if thi… | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 03:41 PM |
| 0 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?How is he on a crusade against women? By arguing that OP should physically initiate sex with a girl who has already explicitly stated she wants to fuck? What world do you live in? | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 03:33 PM |
| 0 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?Because she said she wanted to have sex. And no one said to force her. If she resisted or said no it's not just "MAKE HER DO IT!!!" But that's how sex is initiated, bud. By initiating sex. Would you advise he starts with "Hey, so, do you want to have sex now?" Because that's just about the least seductive and attractive approach possible. | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Do you makeout/fool around with people you consider "just friends"?I never said he didn't enjoy spending time with you or want to be your friend. He just also wants to fuck you. You're drawing a false trichitomy between "Only wants to fuck and has no interest in you as a person", "only wants to be platonic friends and has no interest in you physically" and "wants to be in a romtantic and sexual relationship with you". The truth is probably more along the lines of "he's your friend who also finds you attractive and wants to have sex but isn't interested in any k… | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Do you makeout/fool around with people you consider "just friends"?I'm assuming this means he wants to bang you but doesn't want a romantic relationship with you. Like a friends with benefits type of situation. Having said that, since this is such a long period of time it's hard to say without more details. How old are you? | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Im a virgin and it's killing me. [M/17]I could have written this post 6 years ago. Pretty much word-for-word. I remember the feeling well, and I'm sorry you're feeling so horrible. First: there's nothing wrong with you. Highschool is hard. Getting laid in highschool has so many fucking random elements that are beyond your control. Girls in highschool are more fickle, immature, and probably most importantly worried about being sluts. Don't look at stories on Seddit and compare yourself, because it's a lot harder to get a girl to put o… | /r/seduction | 09/12/14 12:56 AM |
| 1 | You made me realized I was so wrong!Nah, that part was great too. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 11:37 PM |
| 2 | You made me realized I was so wrong!Yep. A few years back I was the guy who used my girlfriend as my fix to all of my emotional problems. Really fucking pissed at myself because she was the hottest girl I've been with before or since, but I definitely get why we broke up. And I'm glad I'm single now... I just wish I could fuck more 110lb 5'9" blondes. Everyone is so fat. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 11:11 PM |
| 1 | How To Start A Conversation On Tinder That Gets ResponsesI'm "defending" it on the grounds that people should stop blaming a conspiracy for their lack of success and take a look in the mirror. Unless you're a model, you can't blame Tinder for the fact that girls don't want to fuck you based on a couple of pictures. This whole Tinder conspiracy amounts to people deluding themselves into thinking "I'm so hot the ONLY REASON that girls wouldn't want to fuck me after seeing my picture is that there's a conspiracy". That's insane. To have any great success… | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 10:57 PM |
| 1 | How To Start A Conversation On Tinder That Gets ResponsesYou do realize that Tinder is a win-win for beautiful women. They still control the access, but they can also grant access to hundreds of guys that they find really hot. This whole conspiracy just reeks of insecurity. "Oh, no one gets laid on Tinder, it's all a big scam" is way easier to stomach than "I'm not hot enough to match with real hot girls on Tinder who want to fuck me." I've accepted the depressing latter truth, which is a lot more likely than some grand conspiracy. Don't you know any … | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 10:17 PM |
| 1 | How To Start A Conversation On Tinder That Gets ResponsesNo. You misunderstood my point. That's why I asked if you know anyone in real life. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 10:12 PM |
| 1 | No clubbing, not internet, place to meet woman ...He's saying look up the term "day game" on the website YouTube.com | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 09:18 PM |
| 18 | [FR] First date with HB9, ended in K-close and confidence boost.Did you make any attempt to get her to come into your place or no? Not saying you should have if you're not like that, I'm just curious. I know if I was employing that 5 second rule I would have had to invite her in by virtue of having to do everything I wanted to. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 09:17 PM |
| 1 | How To Start A Conversation On Tinder That Gets ResponsesSure, because Tinder has the resources to pay half of the young people out there to go lie all the time. Do you know anyone in real life? Probably half of the people I know (girls and guys) that are around my age (23) have used or currently use Tinder. The only reason you could believe that shitty sub is if you don't have any acquaintances or if you believe the world is some kind of Truman-show level setup. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 09:14 PM |
| 1 | How To Start A Conversation On Tinder That Gets ResponsesObviously I'm not trying to brag or get a "good for you" since in the end it was pretty disappointing, but it is idiotic to claim there are NO girls looking to hook up on Tinder. My logic is: as a pretty average looking guys, I was able to hook up with some pretty average looking girls on the app. I don't see why a guy who looked like a model wouldn't be able to pull some hot girls from there. You really think that there are NO good looking girls out there who get horny and would like the conven… | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 09:11 PM |
| 5 | How To Start A Conversation On Tinder That Gets ResponsesAs someone who absolutely hates Tinder and had my confidence torn apart by months of using it, I think that sub is the stupidest thing in the world. I've hooked up with 3 girls off that goddamn app - they were just some of the least attractive girls I've been with. I'm also an average looking guy, so it definitely didn't work on the "quick, easy sex with hotties" front that I was hoping for. More like "spend a long time texting mediocre looking girls and eventually meet up with them with kind of… | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 07:32 PM |
| 1 | A Reminder - Attraction Is Not Solely PhysicalIt definitely does begin there, though it may not end there. It could end there as well though. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 05:42 PM |
| 1 | What is the most impressive seduction you have seen with your own eyes/know about? Did you learn anything from it?Hmm, well I'll definitely keep trying. At this point I kind of have my doubts if I'll ever achieve anything like that (which is the point at which I'd actually be proud of myself/satisfied), but I also just got a massive raise. Between working out, practicing game like crazy, and having a bit of money to throw around now, I'm hoping that I actually have a shot. But even if it does take incredibly good looks to get the kind of unrealistic standard I'm trying to reach, at least now I have the cash… | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 04:04 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Strange spontaneous f-close on busty college girlHowso? A lame date and then sex a few days later is less depressing than a lame date and no sex | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?You obviously can't tell the difference, as no one is saying to physically force themselves on someone. Asserting dominance and overpowering with force are not necessarily the same thing. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 03:30 PM |
| 1 | What is the most impressive seduction you have seen with your own eyes/know about? Did you learn anything from it?How? Obviously this is the kind of thing I'm here to learn. (Though the more posts I see of yours the more I'm convinced you must be really good looking, or have the best game in the world) | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 03:29 PM |
| 13 | What is the most impressive seduction you have seen with your own eyes/know about? Did you learn anything from it?This sounds less like impressive seduction and more like a lucky bastard who's really good looking. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Girl invited me to watch a movie at her place. We obviously won't watch the movie. So how to initiate sex ?Yep. Because if someone tells you they want to have sex and you initiate it, that's pretty much sexual assault. I'm sure you'll be dearly missed after your unsubscribe. | /r/seduction | 08/12/14 03:17 PM |
| 22 | [FR] Strange spontaneous f-close on busty college girlIt's amazing how sometimes despite a complete lack of chemistry you can often just kind of go for it and everything plays out well. That's one big lesson I've learned in my short time working on this stuff - I used to only go for sex if I felt like there was a good chance it would go over well, and now I've realized that half the time girls are just horny too and it hardly matters if she's the most awkward girl in the world and it's impossible to have a fluid conversation with her. | /r/seduction | 07/12/14 07:20 PM |
| 2 | I am bitter [rant]People are going to jump all over you, tell you "girls can smell your desperation" or talk about how your inner game is all wrong. But I know I can relate, and I'm sure a lot of other guys can too. Right now I don't quite feel as riled up as you do, but I've been there, and I'm sure I'll be there again. It does suck, and life is unfair, but it's mainly just unfair to anyone who wasn't born blessed with great looks. Everyone wants those people, girls want the model guys, guys want the model girls… | /r/seduction | 05/12/14 04:35 AM |
| 1 | [FR] F-Closed a HB8 I met during an OKCupid date with HB5I currently have a 6 that is a FWB, and I've definitely mentioned the couple of 5s that I hooked up with from Tinder. I just don't start adding the HB until 7 or 8 when it makes sense | /r/seduction | 05/12/14 04:26 AM |
| 4 | When "just be yourself" doesn't workI too can identify, drugs and all. I hit that "ALRIGHT I'M DOING THIS" point a couple of months back. Read Models, realized I need to constantly work on myself if I want any progress. Still climbing my way up, but now even with cute girls I too do the "Hey, how are you" and one follow up to anyone I ever interact with. I've managed to get conversations and even some IOIs going with 2 cute cashiers now, and every day I push myself farther. Journaling is a great idea - I hadn't though of that, and… | /r/seduction | 05/12/14 04:24 AM |
| 4 | Why none of you are getting laid, including you guys who pretend you are...The formatting of this is extremely confusing for the first half. This isn't even a good troll post. | /r/seduction | 05/12/14 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Sorry if this is the wrong subreddit, but I was confused about something minor.It's not the right sub, check out /r/AskSeddit | /r/seduction | 05/12/14 12:27 AM |
| 0 | [FR] First date. At last, after 3 flakes with very young and beautifull girl(She 17, me 22). No K-close, tried Kino. Didn't have time to escalate( 1 hour date). She complains that people were looking at us.I wanna hear more about these experiments - have you gotten her to grow a second head or what? | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 10:55 PM |
| 1 | From Zero to HeroHey, whining here is probably less detrimental than in person! I'm hardly someone who never whines on Reddit. Also if you mean one specific girl when you say "a girl that you're attracted to", I think you can already guess what the overwhelming advice around here is gonna be on that front. | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 10:43 PM |
| 5 | [FR] F-Closed a HB8 I met during an OKCupid date with HB5No, I understand that. I wasn't disagreeing with what you did or criticizing in the least. Just a matter of preferences. | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 09:58 PM |
| 3 | [FR] F-Closed a HB8 I met during an OKCupid date with HB5I feel kinda bad for the first girl, but I always kinda like awkward girls (and sometimes they're crazy in bed) - however this is an awesome story in any case. Very inspiring! | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 09:35 PM |
| 1 | From Zero to HeroIn general people assume they're above average in most respects (not learned skills necessarily, but innate traits) unless they have MAJOR proof to the contrary. Because psychology | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 09:22 PM |
| 1 | [M29] Tinder: I'm doing great until they request more pictures. Then it's immediately over.It was a stupid way for an average looking guy to start out single life after 4 years (since before I was 20) of long term relationships. I hadn't built up the confidence and inner game foundation to handle the fact that after 5 months of using the app for literally hours daily (on my commute), I never matched with any of the girls I was actually excited about, and knew I had been rejected literally thousands of times while only getting 50-60 matches with girls who I BARELY swiped right on. I go… | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 06:22 PM |
| 1 | [Fr] Failed SuccessI mean, I can gather the overall TL;DR... But the overall story is just so scattered. Kind of just needs rewriting | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 02:41 PM |
| 1 | [Fr] Failed SuccessThis whole thing seems kind of crazy. Not the story, mind you, but the way you're telling it. You need to stick way more to facts presented in a chronological order. | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 02:20 PM |
| 3 | Is Pick-up Cheesy?It seems like your view on pickup is kind of outdated. Based on what I see around here, the current philosophy is much less "cheesy" than the negging, routines, etc. that the industry started out with. Probably because those strategies were cheesy. | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 02:17 PM |
| 1 | From Zero to HeroYes these things look stupid on the train to work Being on the train to work right now, the thought of this gave me a good chuckle | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 02:14 PM |
| 3 | From Zero to HeroWell, he said he started out as a friendless, obese virgin. And that the 60 rejections were before he got that first lay. So even assuming that he got into great shape before starting he approaches, it's pretty reasonable that his social skills needed a lot of fine-tuning. You can do anything poorly at least 60 times and have absolutely no success. It's not like you always have a 10% chance minimum even if you're doing everything wrong. | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 02:12 PM |
| 1 | From Zero to HeroInteresting. I've had a few really solid LTRs (a couple of which were with good looking girls) but I came here because I am sick of having to be in relationships to get laid. I've always been pretty bad at the quick game, never been able to pull a girl and fuck her in the same night, etc. It's always seemed much harder to me to be able to demonstrate enough value and generate enough attraction over the course of a few hours, and that has consequentially become much more valuable to me than the (… | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 02:08 PM |
| 1 | From Zero to HeroSame thing with height, buddy (Something I deal with). Or baldness. Or having a generally fucked up face - which is worse than any of the above. Yeah, life's not fair and people suck in a lot of ways, but I'd be willing to bet you're screening for the hot girls, and aside from being skinny, that's largely something they can't change as well. It's almost impossible, but you gotta just forget about the limitations you're working with if they're something you can't change. Having said that, Mark Ma… | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 02:00 PM |
| 1 | [M29] Tinder: I'm doing great until they request more pictures. Then it's immediately over.For some reason I found this "You could compare me with Louis CK or Heisenberg." hilarious. What a strange couple of examples for a 29 year old. Also just those two personalities. I don't know. I smiled. Anyway, stay away from Tinder. I recently posted a long rant about it, but suffice it to say, as another average-okay looking guy who used Tinder intensely for 5 months, it's not worth it. My experience ended with me running to the bathroom to have a breakdown in the middle of a workday and week… | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 12:16 AM |
| 0 | Is anyone else as disillusioned about 'nice' dinner dates as I am?Wait are you telling him to call her out on her Facebook? Is this a troll post intended to make OP look like a fool publicly? | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone else as disillusioned about 'nice' dinner dates as I am?Yeah, it's almost impossible to find a girl who you can actually be as close of friends with in the same way as a guy. I count 1, MAYBE 2, but in either case we've been friends for years and years | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 12:08 AM |
| 0 | Is anyone else as disillusioned about 'nice' dinner dates as I am?Yep, the more comments that I read from OP, the more creeped out I get. Girl: Here's my perspective on this thing you asked about and this may be how the girls you mentioned are feeling. OP: NO YOU'RE PROJECTING. Geez. | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Is anyone else as disillusioned about 'nice' dinner dates as I am?Bringing it up cannot possibly benefit you in any way. EVEN IF you're not "giving to get" as other have implied, it could easily come off that way. If someone is a bad friend, stop being their friend. You made a mistake, oh well. Calling them out won't fix it. | /r/seduction | 04/12/14 12:01 AM |
| 7 | Dating multiple girls...Where to go from here?Unless he made any statements to imply exclusivity, it's totally fair game. I agree with the poster above, you should have sex with them before choosing if you are looking for a relationship - don't get stuck with someone who's lame in bed when one of them might be amazing. And if you're not looking for a relationship, then obviously just do whatever and enjoy yourself | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Smart Kid SyndromeI dunno man, I have some friends who don't at all understand why I'm putting so much effort into this - although obviously they'd like it, they don't think it's worth the effort to get consistent high-quality sex when they could occasionally-rarely stumble into hookups with mediocre looking girls without really making the effort. You've never gotten the "you can have great sex even if the girl isn't a supermodel" line of logic? The two prime examples I can think of are guys I've known since high… | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Smart Kid SyndromeThis hits the nail on the head. This article is describing a specific type of person, not necessarily "anyone intelligent" | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Smart Kid SyndromeThis. I bet if he tried that on an Econ test he'd fail, but he was wired for Chem | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Smart Kid SyndromeI was hoping so hard that you were linking to RBF. You did not disappoint. | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?Again, you seem to have not read any of my posts fully. I haven't given up overall, but I have given up on Tinder after 5 months. The matches I do get tend to go decently (not all of them, but like I said, I've pulled a few f-closes and some FWBs from it), but the fact of the matter was that in 5 months of trying for literally hours every day, going through bios every few weeks, choosing different pictures, putting them in different orders, I never once got a good match. Did you actually read my… | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Smart Kid SyndromeI mean, he was literally a freak genius who would read science-based things once over and just have them in his head word for word. He was pretty bad at things like literature or art, but I could read a part of a page from his Chem textbooks to him and he could describe the whole layout from memory. It was fascinating. Kind of a weird guy, but not to the point of Asberger's or anything. | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?An interesting perspective. Did you love anywhere else in the states that was better, or are you just comparing Chicago to Europe? I definitely plan on living in Colorado at some point, and probably California too - those should be less fat... | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?Hey, it's hard not to get angry at someone who clearly got pretty lucky in the look department acting like my viewpoint on Tinder is wrong. I'd give everything to be good looking enough to pull a lot of girls from Tinder. Tinder (my experiences cross-referenced with other average looking guys as well as good looking guys) singlehandedly illustrated to me that my life is so much intrinsically shittier because I wasn't graced with looks. You coming along and saying "Hey I'm an 8.5, maybe an 8, and… | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 03:44 AM |
| 4 | Smart Kid SyndromeI'm shocked you've never met a lazy smart person. I'm not talking about Asperger's - that's SO MUCH more extreme than what I'm describing. It's not like they were social retards, just really bright people who tended not to study but still get straight As. And when they did encounter something they weren't as good at, they'd rationalize it as a stupid waste of time. Again, I'm no super-genius but I was always good enough at school to pretty much never study and still ace tests. I'm okay with girl… | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 03:06 AM |
| 3 | How can you tell if a girl has tight genitalia or not? (please give me a chance to explain)In my experience, there's definitely something to be said for the bone structure. My gut instinct is to say that the thinner girls I've been with have been the tightest, but on second thought I think it probably was more correlated with their hip width. I've only been with 6 girls, so my sample is pretty limited, but it has been a pretty good range of sizes... Well I guess good isn't the right word since I prefer jack skellington-style girls, but you get what I mean. The tightest was definitely … | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:59 AM |
| 1 | [FR]Went on a date with nice girl that I met in college.This is awesome. Very inspiring, and exactly the type of shit Seddit tries to teach. I gotta get my own FR to post! Thanks for sharing! | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Where do I go from here?Guys. Send posts like this to /r/AskSeddit. And then answer them there. | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Ask Me Out on a DATE | perspective from a womanThis article a shit | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:48 AM |
| 21 | Smart Kid SyndromeYES. Agreed 100% Once I discovered drugs, alcohol, and sex, I realized that everything I had seen as something that the "idiots" did was actually what I wanted to be doing. | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:46 AM |
| 4 | Smart Kid SyndromeCool, so he was smart and a high-achiever. This article is about people who can get straight As in school without any effort and then hit a wall with stuff like sports and girls with which they're less naturally skilled because they're not used to trying. What would you call that? I would call that smart and lazy. | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:44 AM |
| 9 | Smart Kid SyndromeI disagree entirely. Bright people don't have to try as hard to be successful in a LOT of realms. Up until recently I've always been pretty lazy. But I breezed my way through highschool with all As and then got a degree from Cornell with a 3.5 GPA (again, going to one class my last semester and with very spotty attendance throughout.) Now I work a pretty great job (where, to be fair, I actually do work hard now). I was also captain of the speech team in highschool, went to state multiple times, … | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 02:30 AM |
| 14 | Smart Kid SyndromeWhat? This post was clearly about academically intelligent people who never had to work at school and then hit issues when it comes to things like game, fitness, sports, etc. I'm not sure what you're getting at. | /r/seduction | 03/12/14 01:09 AM |
| 18 | Smart Kid SyndromeThis post is so true. I breezed through highschool and then an Ivy League degree with almost no effort invested (went to one class session outside of tests my last semester) and was seriously bitter and messed up about my lack of success with casual sex for the longest time. Then someone pointed me towards reading Models and I suddenly realized that some things require work. I always figured some guys just got the girls without trying (probably true in extreme cases) and felt totally hopeless. N… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 11:47 PM |
| 3 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?Are you really trying to argue with me on this? Are you really going to try and fucking tell me that you know more about what I could experience on Tinder than I do? Did you even look at my post about the FIVE MONTHS of hell that have utterly destroyed me? About how I tried every possible combination of things and failed and failed and failed hours every day for months? Just because you lucked out in the looks department doesn't mean you understand shit - your experience is not fucking universal… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 11:25 PM |
| 3 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?As a girl, Tinder is the way to go. Instant sex at your fingertips with guys who are most likely better looking than you (given the skewed ratio of guys:girls). Tinder is a great illustration of how awesome being a girl is if you're just looking for sex. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?Thanks, glad it could be of some help. It's amazing how much Tinder just scooped out my insides and filled them with hate, anger, sadness, hopelessness... I deleted it one day after having a mental breakdown in the middle of work because I went on a /r/Tinder thread of some good looking guy with a bunch of examples of him being an idiot and girls still clamoring for his dick. Makes my life seem like such a waste of time. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 11:11 PM |
| 4 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?What the fucking fuck? I literally can't tell what you're trying to say with this post. Edit: why the downvote? I'm legitimately curious about what this guy is trying to say. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?Uh, if you're an 8 or 8.5 you can't really argue with my point. That's still very good looking. And please, see my long post above. I understand Tinder and where I place in the rankings in that shithole of misery. Trust me. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?Yep. Started out as a buyer until months of failure and getting literally 0 results flipped the script on me. Then I became a seller and dropped my standards and continued to fail for the most part. Nothing is worse than thinking "alright, fine, fuck it I'll lower the bar" and STILL failing consistently. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 11:07 PM |
| 4 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?Or he's just very good looking. Tinder is a nightmare for the average guy. You CAN got some hookups from it, but you CAN also wash your hands after taking a shit by dumping gasoline on them and lighting a match. It'll kill the germs, but it'll eat away at your flesh. God dammit Tinder, God dammit. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 09:13 PM |
| 7 | Online Dating: Tinder has changed the game?If you sink your entire being into Tinder for months and lower your standards it might work out. I deleted Tinder a couple weeks back because it was utterly destroying my self-worth, but I did get a couple f-closes out of it. Worth it? No. I'm 5'9", very average and very thin (too thin, 130lb) without many "cool" pictures. I live and work right outside Chicago. So there's a pretty endless well. From JULY THROUGH NOVEMBER I used Tinder daily. Exhaustively. Literally would swipe until there was no… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Looking for clarification if this is some sort of shit testPlain. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Looking for clarification if this is some sort of shit testIt does if they're being a dickhead. Stop being defensive and think about why you're being a dickhead. Then stop being a dickhead. Is that more helpful? | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Looking for clarification if this is some sort of shit testWell, if you're tall and good looking, stop bitching. You seem kind of like a stupid dick. I didn't want to jump the gun, but looks like the posters who called you an immature dick to begin with were right. If your fashion sense is unusual but not bad, that won't be a problem. In fact, unusual is better (as long as it's not shitty). Dressing like everyone else is not fashion. I'd be willing to bet that your problem is more that you're an asshole, or at the very least you're bitter and resentful.… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 04:46 PM |
| 6 | Got a Hooter's Girl's Number tonight, while she was on shiftWhy don't you post a field report with any semblance of content to add to this sub instead of just coming here to pay yourself on the back? What a shit post. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Looking for clarification if this is some sort of shit testI don't even know what your point is here. You're kind of agreeing with me but still hating. You just sound bitter to me. Your third gender example is ridiculous because who knows what that gender's tastes and preferences would be. Unless they were some kind of mindless sex robots, it'd probably be just as hard, or maybe it'd be worse because like you pointed out, we actually have it pretty good considering how much we can control our attractiveness as guys going for girls. You're being just as … | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 02:14 PM |
| 3 | Looking for clarification if this is some sort of shit testYour hate is misplaced. I felt the same way you did for years. Then I realized that when selecting a potential mate, I was judging girls almost entirely on factors they couldn't control at all aside from staying thin... but even with weight I wanted extremes to the point that I would err towards unhealthily skinny girls. Does this make me an asshole? Sure, by some definitions. A lot of girls would probably think I'm a dick if I explained to them my tastes and priorities and what I wanted in my s… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Turning hot girls downHey, if you've been trying to integrate this stuff for a year, I'm sure you've come farther than you realize. I only started in September, but since I'm still looking for a place in the city and there's very few options for going out around my suburb (and very few women who aren't in highschool or middle-aged moms moms), I haven't gotten much opportunity to really practice either. But hey, at least now I chat up cute cashiers and can hold a conversation and get some IOIs. I'm excited to see what… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 01:54 AM |
| 2 | Turning hot girls downNo problem. Now the universe will reward me and I'll start having more success with the HB8+ crowd. Right? How long ago did you seriously get into all of this pick-up/seduction stuff? And what was your general success like when you started? | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 01:25 AM |
| 7 | Turning hot girls downIf you're worried about it at all, it's probably the case. Based on your perspective on sex, which seems to be the same as mine, turning down a hot girl who wants to fuck doesn't really make sense. I'm totally new to game, so I face similar issues. And what I've done is made a rule: if there's any chance at all of anything happening, or if I have even the slightest interest (even if I'm not sure if I'm interested), I have to go for it. I've removed the choice for myself. Until I actually fuck so… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 01:20 AM |
| 1 | Turning hot girls downHuh, one of the girls I met off Tinder was kind of annoying and self-centered, but the other two have been really nice and cool, just not nearly as hot as I'm looking for. But that's kind of my overall problem right now anyhow. | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 12:42 AM |
| 7 | Turning hot girls downThese are the posts on Seddit that give me hope. I can't imagine turning down a hot girl who wanted to fuck, but I'd love to get to that point. Yours is a mindset I cannot imagine at all - I can imagine turning down girls who weren't that physically attractive (and I have), but when it comes down to it, looks are the most important thing by far when I'm evaluating a sexual partner. Posts like these definitely still make me mad in a way, as I'm only here to increase the hotness of the girls I can… | /r/seduction | 02/12/14 12:38 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Met a girl at a party, but couldn't close the dealNews_Bots just don't undastand | /r/seduction | 01/12/14 11:47 PM |
| 2 | Interactions always awkward at first.Yep, when I was doing opiates in highschool I managed to go from being a virgin to banging some other guy's girlfriend in less than a week because I saw her at a coffee shop and just walked up and started messing with her book or something. I had a friend who shot himself in the head because of a terrible opiate addiction, so needless to say, they're not something I ever touch anymore. I think the takeaway from the drugged up success is that being an idiot is fine a lot of the time. Being on dru… | /r/seduction | 01/12/14 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Looking for clarification if this is some sort of shit testComing back at her with such vitriol gives her way too much power and makes you look like an insecure dick. Having said that, it is a shitty thing to happen, and I don't blame you for being frustrated. I can easily see myself snapping like that on a shitty night after a few drinks. Doesn't make it okay, but the comments berating you for it are a bit over the top. Sure you don't own her, but if she's going to go off and look for other options at that point in the night, it's not worth it to try a… | /r/seduction | 01/12/14 09:22 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Met a girl at a party, but couldn't close the dealFair enough - I shouldn't have made such a sweeping statement about it always being better. I'd personally prefer to f-close the hot girl that night even if it meant that was the end of things (there are always more girls out there for your next night out, and I'd generally rather have sex than not have sex any given night), but if you're into the longer game I can see how that wouldn't be ideal. However, I think you're being a bit too literal with your interpretation of "not tonight". It could … | /r/seduction | 01/12/14 06:40 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Met a girl at a party, but couldn't close the dealHe never said he HAD to go for sex the night he met, but he asked for advice on how to make it more likely, which is a totally fair inquiry. You seem almost annoyed that he's asking for tips, and I don't get that. Obviously banging a hot girl the night you meet is better than not banging a hot girl the night you meet. This is relevant info for a lot of people on this sub. | /r/seduction | 01/12/14 04:51 PM |
| 0 | [FR] Met a girl at a party, but couldn't close the dealMake your bro get a dog. Sure, it's a huge commitment for him, but it's the best excuse in the book. Sounds like he's a pretty cool and helpful guy anyway, so that shouldn't be a problem? Right? Totally reasonable. | /r/seduction | 01/12/14 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Best way to respond to "you're going to have to work harder than that" when asking for a girl's number?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5clk0RCTk | /r/seduction | 30/11/14 03:03 AM |
| 1 | How To Tinder Better - How To Attract Women in Online Dating - 40 TipsTinder is entirely pictures oriented. If you look at /Tinder over a decent period of time, you'll see posts from good looking guys with good pictures where they literally act like huge retards and the girls still make every effort to keep the conversation going and have sex. Then you'll also see posts from normal looking guys or guys with bad pictures who get shot down in the bitchiest of ways instantly. Girls have almost infinite options on Tinder and it's 90% looks based. If you're an average … | /r/seduction | 30/11/14 02:54 AM |
| 1 | [m26] Nothing I do worksHey, I've heard good things as well. If people are going to downvote this, they should argue why. I've never been so I don't know anything, but at least this advice seems to be genuine. If it's bad advice I'd like to see why! | /r/seduction | 27/11/14 10:42 PM |
| 1 | I'm abstaining from watching or reading seduction-related self development content until I get laid, and perhaps you should too...I agree - NoFap definitely has both pros and cons, even if many subscribers to that sub would have you believe that not fapping is the ultimate answer to every problem in life. I went 1.5-2 months (didn't count the days because the more I focused on it, the harder it was and the less I gained in terms of adjusting) with absolutely no porn, masturbation, etc. I had sex on most of those weekends with a FWB, so it wasn't as difficult as it could have been, but it was still a huge change after watch… | /r/seduction | 26/11/14 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Why I hate clubsYeah, it's pretty obvious that he definitely doesn't have any actual experience firsthand and probably lacks any secondhand experience from people who responsibly have used drugs at any point. Either that or he's just discredited them with his "crack and meth are bad so all drugs are bad" or "nah, your experience wasn't actually like that" logic. Like I said, it's obvious neither him or I will come to any kind of agreement or even mutual respect, so I'm done. But glad to see you agree - amofquer… | /r/seduction | 25/11/14 01:26 AM |
| 1 | I'm abstaining from watching or reading seduction-related self development content until I get laid, and perhaps you should too...Well, sounds like you were pretty far ahead of where I am. I'm by no means dropping anyone's jaws - I'm 5'9", only started working out ~4 months ago, still only really successful with pretty awkward girls and never the super hot ones. From your stories, it sounds like you're incredibly good looking or you were way more skilled and had way more game than I have yet. I need to get fucking practicing. And hitting the gym like 7 days a week going forward... | /r/seduction | 24/11/14 05:15 AM |
| 0 | Why I hate clubsAlright, we're clearly not going to see eye to eye on this. You still are claiming, based on nothing, that the positive changes from MDMA were just me fitting in with some new people. Oh wait, I did it with one other friend out of my friend group while with even more friends that didn't do it, it was my idea - my other friend wanted to join in, but obviously this was not something that I was doing to fit in with my friends. It was both of our first times, and the others had never done it. So you… | /r/seduction | 24/11/14 05:08 AM |
| 0 | I live with my 2 girlfriends. Tomorrow I'm going to make a video where I discuss how I set it up, manage it, and answer any questions you may have. Please feel free to write some below and I'll pick the best for the video.I was just joshing, m'boy. I was also apparently so bored and brain dead at work that I commented twice. | /r/seduction | 22/11/14 03:43 AM |
| 62 | I live with my 2 girlfriends. Tomorrow I'm going to make a video where I discuss how I set it up, manage it, and answer any questions you may have. Please feel free to write some below and I'll pick the best for the video.Most girls won't pretend to be someone's boyfriend publicly in a video with you due to repercussions from their family and friends etc. Really great point. Aside from the fact that paid actors exist. And the fact that this point is actually retarded. | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 11:21 PM |
| 6 | I live with my 2 girlfriends. Tomorrow I'm going to make a video where I discuss how I set it up, manage it, and answer any questions you may have. Please feel free to write some below and I'll pick the best for the video.This post is awesome. Legitimately. Good on you for calling out this lying douchebag who is praying on people's needs. Good thing this guy is also so fucking stupid in addition to being a scumbag and leaves a massive trail of evidence. | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 11:17 PM |
| 7 | I live with my 2 girlfriends. Tomorrow I'm going to make a video where I discuss how I set it up, manage it, and answer any questions you may have. Please feel free to write some below and I'll pick the best for the video.Most girls won't pretend to be someone's boyfriend Can't argue with that | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 11:13 PM |
| 1 | How to stop feeling sorry for myself/self pity?That's the idea haha | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 09:00 PM |
| 2 | I'm abstaining from watching or reading seduction-related self development content until I get laid, and perhaps you should too...Based on the fact that you asked, I guess so. | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Pretty good opening Tinder lineThis is a great idea. I'll probably try this soon - thanks! | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 04:50 PM |
| 2 | I'm abstaining from watching or reading seduction-related self development content until I get laid, and perhaps you should too...Where were you meeting women to take back there? There's one bar in my town and it's only ever filled with a handful of 30 year old+ ugly suburban moms/dads. I have a FWB right now in a neighboring suburb, so at least I'm getting laid regularly, but I just am having trouble finding the opportunity to get with any actually HOT girls when there are very very few in my town. Unless I tried to scoop up some highschool seniors, but at 23 that's pretty sketchy. Day game isn't really an option since I'… | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Pretty good opening Tinder lineI have hundreds of pictures of myself on Facebook, but getting good pictures is an entirely different story. Just getting a friend to take some pictures of me on their phone would be more of the same mediocre shit. I considered hiring a photographer and then realized I should probably just delete Tinder if it was making me that insane. | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 04:44 PM |
| 1 | How to stop feeling sorry for myself/self pity?I used to see everyone in a hierarchy of sorts - literally every person I would pass on the street I would make a snap judgement about if they were better than me or worse than me. Usually I would assume better. I also would never ever ever talk to people I didn't know, and I was incredibly anxious in groups with new people. After I did MDMA, it became clear that everyone is just a person and thinking anyone is "better or worse" is completely insane. This may seem like obvious common sense, but … | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 04:41 PM |
| -1 | Why I hate clubsWhat you're describing here is using drugs to break a mental barrier in self perception for you since you lacked the will power and/or courage to do it like other people have to. I'd argue that your decrease in social anxiety and depression is linked to the fact that you found a social niche you could identify with which made you feel more confident in yourself. Well, since you've sunk to some ad hominem bullshit, I'm reluctant to even continue this discussion, but I do want to counter this poin… | /r/seduction | 21/11/14 04:37 PM |
| 2 | How to stop feeling sorry for myself/self pity?Joining a club is good advice, but trying to talk to randoms at a bar is a very very tall order depending on how toxic his mindset really is. Before I did MDMA I attempted this at bars, parties of various sizes, class, clubs, whatever. And it was next to impossible for me. Even though I was incredibly motivated, 80% of the time, I wouldn't be able to start talking to someone I didn't know. The 20% of the time I did, I would feel disconnected, anxious, in my head, and inevitably start looking for… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 11:33 PM |
| 8 | I'm abstaining from watching or reading seduction-related self development content until I get laid, and perhaps you should too...Best of luck - I think this is a really good point. As I'm sure you know after your years of studies, Mark Manson talks about this - the intellectualizing self-help addicts who use it as an excuse not to act. I definitely see how this could become an easy trap to fall into. Right now, I'm searching for an apartment in the city so I live with my parents and have an insane commute. Between the commute, lifting, and my job, I literally have 1.5 hours of free time on weekdays, and being in the subur… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Go out with a girl and drop her.Hahahaha, this was also posted to TRP, and even they think he's being a stupid dick to women. | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Go out with a girl and drop her.You mean the fact that you deleted your post? So now it's just a vague title that alludes to being a stupid dick instead of explicit instructions? | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Go out with a girl and drop her.You were suggesting exactly what trufas said, and now you're trying to backpedal because you got called out. Even with your "edit" (which essentially just makes this post vague and useless on top of being dickish), you're basically saying that people should make a point to go out with a girl so they can drop her. Which, again, is just a waste of time. Why go out on a date with someone you don't like? Why not just ask if she wants to go out and then say "Haha! Just kidding!" after she says yes? I… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Go out with a girl and drop her.This... Seems mean. And unnecessary. If you date, you'll inevitably find women you're not that into, and you can part ways with them and learn this naturally. But going out with the intention of leading someone on and then dropping them...? Why? That's a waste of your time and effort at best, and at worst it causes someone unnecessary pain. | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 09:41 PM |
| 1 | How to stop feeling sorry for myself/self pity?Just don't fuck yourself with it is my advice. Maybe wait until you've sorted through some of your problems first if you're worried about it becoming a crutch, but in my experience, having known people who fuck their lives up with drugs is a great way to keep yourself from doing the same. If you can't tell, I definitely appreciate the occasional recreational drug (usually psychedelics very infrequently), but I also had a close friend who shot himself in the head on the last day of college becaus… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Why I hate clubsYeah, crack and crystal meth are totally a representative sample of most drugs. Sure, if you did most drugs as often as most people drink, there'd probably be some big problems. But just because alcohol can be abused with less of a chance of serious consequences doesn't mean it's a good thing. Saying "most drugs" are better than alcohol was a bit of an exaggeration, so you're right on that front. There are a lot of nasty drugs out there that can really mess you up and give you nothing in return.… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 06:43 PM |
| 1 | How to stop feeling sorry for myself/self pity?I don't know why this was downvoted, but it better have been downvoted by someone who actually has experience with MDMA. Because this is very legitimate advice and I have had almost the exact same experience. MDMA is almost like a psychedelic in terms of how much it can positively affect your mindset in the long run. One time is all it took for me to make things kind of "click" and make me actually understand socializing and opening up to people. YOU ASKED FOR ADVICE. Take the time to serious co… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 05:49 PM |
| 2 | Pretty good opening Tinder lineWell, given that my body at this point is probably slightly better than my average face, I'm not sure that would have any effect at all. Except making girls think I might be fat, of course. | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 05:45 PM |
| 1 | How to stop feeling sorry for myself/self pity?If you're on some kind of medication or you're stupid about it and take like 5 rolls then yeah. If you're responsible about it, it's a valuable experience for issues like you describe. I'm no club kid, mind you. I've only rolled probably 5 times over the course of my adult life, spaced out over about 4 years, but especially the very first time gave me a great perspective and made it much easier for me to go out and dance and party WITHOUT the drug going forward. The others times were all great n… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Game is at least as much about preparation as it is about executionGood article. I completely agree. If you act like a freak, you can obviously ruin your shot with a chick even if she was attracted to you to begin with, so game matters in that regard, but on the whole, at least when you're looking for a one-night stand, SNL, quick casual sex your looks, fitness, fashion, etc. are going to play way more of a role than anything else. Every time anyone says this, it's instantly downvoted, but that's ridiculous. Sure, there are some exceptions, but if you've ever h… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 05:05 PM |
| 0 | How to stop feeling sorry for myself/self pity?Go out and party more. Take some mdma. Learn how to just let loose and have fun, then worry about girls. | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 04:22 PM |
| 5 | Pretty good opening Tinder lineNow if I could just get enough good pictures of myself to get a match in the first place... | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Why I hate clubsYeah, most drugs are better than alcohol for a lot of reasons. | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 03:41 PM |
| 1 | This is what real girls have said they find physically attractive in men. Get to it boys.How much do you work out? I'm a pretty small/skinny guy and have been for years, but I started lifting a few months ago and it's definitely helped. Especially since I started my 4 day split (chest/triceps, back/biceps, shoulders/traps, legs), I think the area I've noticed the most change is my shoulders. Probably because they started out as non-existent. You gotta eat enough to bulk up too, and if you're a naturally small guy you probably don't eat a surplus right now. I'm doing at least 3000 ca… | /r/seduction | 20/11/14 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Do any of you see yourselves getting married?I definitely see myself getting married. I've always been great at long term relationships, I can feel very strongly and be pretty committed, etc. However, at this point in my life I want to be single and still have a lot of sex. That's a very important priority for me as someone in my early 20s. Sure, I could meet someone who is marriage material now, but I also don't know who I'm going to end up being, where I'm going to end of living, etc. I need to figure out my life before I can incorporate… | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Some Body Language TipsRelated on the pelvis side of things, if you have a desk job, you probably have anterior pelvic tilt to some degree unless you actively work against it with the right stretches and stuff. Anterior pelvic tilt is the exact opposite of what OP discusses. It definitely sucks, and once you notice it, it'll drive you crazy, but if you do the work to fix it, it'll be worth it. I just started working on it about a month ago, so I'm far from "fixed", but I figured this was worth mentioning. Fuck my pelv… | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 10:38 PM |
| 1 | I'm just tired of thisYep. I was too awkward and didn't take the effort or put myself out of my comfort zone in college, so I only had sex with a couple girls (and girls who I was dating, no one night stands, hook-ups, or any actual accomplishment/validation). Put in the work because it will pay off now. I didn't put in the work, and as a result I really feel like college was a gigantic waste of time. I have a degree from an ivy league school, but I would happily trade that for four years of random party sex and pick… | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 10:20 PM |
| 1 | How to let go of extreme bitterness and resentment?Hey, look at it this way: you're much much better off than an average looking guy with a lot of confidence. Why? Because all of your problems are within your ability to change. Anyone can change how they act, maybe it takes a lot of cognitive behavioral therapy, maybe meds, maybe just practice, but at the end of the day, you can change the way you act. This is a fact, and to disagree with it is idiotic. It's already idiotic that you've written off meds and therapy, but hey, if you want to squand… | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 10:14 PM |
| 1 | I finally turned the corner, don't even know how to feelThank you for this post, legitimately. You're 6'2" which makes it a little hard to pull that much faith from your story (5'9" here), but hey, every little piece of evidence that there is some hope and it's worth sticking it out helps. Hoping and praying (well, not really praying) that in a year I can look back at this time the way you're looking back at your past now. | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Can someone PLEASE help me with kinoHand holding might seem a bit couple-y... As someone who is not interested in relationships I really don't do it. I do arm around the lower back/waist. Not sure if it really makes a difference, but I think it's slightly more dominant and less romantic than hand holding. | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 09:18 PM |
| 2 | Can someone PLEASE help me with kino"What was that for?" "Fun." I forgot to mention tickling in my long post, but it's great. Just pretend you're 5 and get a kick out of tickling her because it's annoying/fun. It sounds like you might have bigger issues than kino troubles though from this reply. And I'm not nearly experienced enough to help you with these mindset issues. | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 01:43 AM |
| 52 | Can someone PLEASE help me with kinoIt sounds like things are already leaning the right way if she's texting you all the time and telling you you're cute and stuff... Which is good. However, you do need to break the touch barrier (I don't like the wording on this, just using yours back - thinking in these terms will definitely make it weird). If you're naturally not that touchy, that's fine. Some here may disagree, but I'm not very touchy generally, and I see no need to force it constantly. If you're going for a SNL with a girl yo… | /r/seduction | 19/11/14 01:40 AM |
| 3 | How to deal with aggressive, forceful people?IMO, I think the key here is to realize how ridiculous they're being and not try very hard to hide the fact that you feel that way. Don't be an asshole back or call them out, but if someone tries to break your hand with a handshake, I would just shake it back, kind of laugh and... This is really hard to describe without visuals... But kind of make a face that's akin to raising one eyebrow. Don't raise on eyebrow, but try to embody that attitude of "what? Is this really how you act?" - not offend… | /r/seduction | 18/11/14 11:59 PM |
| 3 | How do I sustain a new relationship?THIS THIS THIS. Being busy all the time is fine. Only seeing each other occasionally makes it more exciting. You won't get bored of each other's company or feel smothered. Right now I'm seeing a girl almost every weekend, we hang out (and she sleeps over) one day on probably 2/3 weekends. And it's going so so well. It's more of a FWB situation, at least in my eyes (there's been no talk of a relationship, not seeing other people, etc.), but she seems to be getting really into me. Which is weird b… | /r/seduction | 18/11/14 10:18 PM |
| 3 | A matter of attitudeNah, I fixed up my posture (used to always lean on one hip), have gotten my voice a bit more in check (I think being comfortable helped this a lot, less crazy tonal swings), and although I'm still expressive with my hands, I've definitely toned down the gay vibe of it all. As for your story, I don't deny that you can still find someone with sub-optimal body language. Of course that guy being effeminate didn't stop him from getting a family. That's not my point at all though. I've had a fair amou… | /r/seduction | 18/11/14 09:11 PM |
| 3 | My first on night stand with a friend! One question though....Could be that definitely. But if her defense is to act conceited and tell you how lucky you are for getting the chance to be with her, that's just insufferable to me. Cockiness/conceitedness is my least favorite trait in anyone, and I rarely put up with it. If you really wanna bang this chick, then I think you still made the right choice by leaving anyway. | /r/seduction | 18/11/14 06:00 PM |
| 1 | My first on night stand with a friend! One question though....If you were annoyed, then nah. Also, the fact that she went on about how lucky and special you should feel because you were in bed with her makes her sound kind of conceited. Sounds like an annoying gal overall. | /r/seduction | 18/11/14 05:31 PM |
| 3 | Fun, easy, and somewhat unusual opener I've used recentlyHow on earth did you get that from the OP? | /r/seduction | 18/11/14 05:29 PM |
| 1 | A matter of attitudeI disagree on the body language. You can have shitty posture and effeminate gestures, and when you're comfortable both of those can be majorly intensified. Source: I used to have bad posture and still battle with effeminate gestures, and it was way worse in situations where I got comfortable enough to "be myself". | /r/seduction | 18/11/14 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Quit Doubting Your Abilities!My goal is to get down to 12% body fat while still having substantial mass. If I dropped to 12% previously I would have been skin and bones, so right now I'm bulking. So far I've gone from 130 to 150 lbs since late July. But basically, I want bigger arms, a bigger chest, abs, and keeping everything else roughly in proportion. But I'm definitely most focused on aesthetics. Doing a 4 day split right now. All of these are kind of secondary goals in service of my main goal right now, which is to get… | /r/seduction | 17/11/14 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Can anyone give a female some ideas about what qualities are attractive and unattractive to men in a broad scope?I agree with a lot of your last paragraph. Most of it. So let's just agree there. Lots of girls are much more masculine than would be optimally attractive these days, and it is stupid that guys aren't allowed to voice their preferences. I take back calling you an asshole - however, some of the points I just don't agree with, and I think it's a matter of taste. As long as the girl doesn't have a disease, I'd much rather be with a girl who had more sexual experience. I dated a virgin for a while, … | /r/seduction | 14/11/14 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Can anyone give a female some ideas about what qualities are attractive and unattractive to men in a broad scope?I'm not going to bother addressing every point meticulously, because at the end of the day you're just describing the lazy ways you immediately judge people, but some parts seem more ridiculous than others. First, if a girl drinks beer she's "a fatty until proven otherwise"? Where are you meeting these girls where you can't see them but you're aware they're drinking beer? Because if they're a fatty, that's something you can see. If a girl is fat, she's a fatty and its proven. If she's skinny, it… | /r/seduction | 14/11/14 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Can anyone give a female some ideas about what qualities are attractive and unattractive to men in a broad scope?Jesus, she asked for broad strokes advice and a lot of this is clearly just your personal taste. To me, a girl who never drinks is a red flag. Sure, alcoholics are awful, but even after dating a girl who became an alcoholic (which was the worst), it still worries me if a girl pointedly never drinks. A lot of people feel this way. A lot of people probably agree with you too, but my point is, this is a terrible general guideline. Side note: Your rules about wine vs. beer/hard liquor are pure insan… | /r/seduction | 12/11/14 10:06 PM |
| 1 | I'm unhappy with the quality of girls I'm spending my time withAre you me? This sounds a lot like my problem right now. Except I'm not getting with the "really pretty" ones. The whole "on the edge of becoming fat" thing pretty much rules that out. | /r/seduction | 12/11/14 09:44 PM |
| 1 | "We're not going to have sex tonight" twice in a week from two different girlsThat behind the ass sneaky move is the way I've initiated pussy contact the first time with every girl I've been with. It has never failed. My sample isn't huge (7 gals, I'm new to this!), but considering I'm not great at seduction, nor am I a super good looking guy, I think it's a great strategy if it's worked that consistently for me. | /r/seduction | 12/11/14 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Quit Doubting Your Abilities!I'm 23 and your situation sounds identical to mine. A month or so ago, I went on 3 first dates (and f-closed all of them) over the course of 2 weeks - this is after a lot of reading seddit, forcing myself to be social, etc. Before that I had always been an AFC that was in a string of LTRs that I didn't really want to be in. The last month or so, I upped my gym time, so now aside from the weekends (where I've been sleeping off the exhaustion from the week) I have no time. And my social skills/con… | /r/seduction | 12/11/14 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.Oh, I mean in terms of how I value people, looks don't even play a part. But valuing someone as a human being has very little to do with how much I want to have sex with them. Obviously if a woman was the worst person I had ever met, it would hurt my chances of being attracted to her, but if she was also the hottest person I had ever met and wanted to fuck, odds are I'd go for it. I think people are incredibly shallow in a lot of ways and treat people far more poorly than they should for arbitra… | /r/seduction | 11/11/14 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Why are you on /r/seduction?More hookups with more attractive girls. I've been in a lot of relationships but always been bad at getting SNLs or FWB situations. Plus, it wouldn't hurt to consistently get more attractive women when it does come time to find a more serious/long-term situation as well. | /r/seduction | 10/11/14 02:58 PM |
| 4 | Anyone here who *didn't* grow up being social and mingling with girls (i.e. hard-mode seduction)?You should go into more detail on this. I'm very interested in this approach but cannot fathom it working. | /r/seduction | 10/11/14 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.I think for a relationship at this point I've been in enough bad ones based mostly on sex where I do know that down the line in going to have to become less shallow if I want a fair shot at a functional marriage and family, but at least up until now, I was far far more happy for that year with the hot girlfriend than I was for years with another one who I get along with better and who I considered my best friend for a while. The one who I got along with was actually better at sex too (and pretty… | /r/seduction | 10/11/14 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.I'm definitely focused on the HB9+s, and my skills are pretty weak at this point, so I'm probably falsely attributing too much to my height. Thanks for the eye opener! Knowing the height thing is mostly in my head should help a lot | /r/seduction | 09/11/14 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.Agreed. I wish I wasn't so shallow, but I haven't fucked a girl where I'm legit happy with how hot she is since 3 years ago, which is definitely frustrating. I dated that girl for a year, never had to imagine hotter girls while we were fucking, was super turned on just by seeing her, etc. her face wasn't great but her body was my ideal. That probably messed me up a little, but I just really wanna have that kind of "holy shit this girl is hot" sex again. | /r/seduction | 09/11/14 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.You're half right. For instance, right now I've been seeing a girl who I've been fucking most weekends but we have no illusion or expectations of a relationship. She's decent looking (6.5, maybe 7), but definitely well below what I'm shooting for or even my exes in terms of looks. I've also just ONS fucked a couple girls since I've been single, but they were even slight worse looking (maybe 6/10). I haven't pretended to want a relationship, and there's no danger that I'll feel pressured into one… | /r/seduction | 09/11/14 08:01 PM |
| 4 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.That has to be awful, and I'm not denying that. Obviously it's far worse. My point was that there are plenty of girls out there who consider me too short to be attractive right off the bat. And that height is a huge issue, even with small differences | /r/seduction | 09/11/14 03:07 AM |
| 5 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.You don't even have to be very short to be at a major disadvantage. I'm 5'9", which as far as I can tell is slightly below average at worst, but I've always struggled to figure out what I have working against me so intensely, and I think it's the height. I'm well-kempt, have never been fat even in the least, dress well, my face is OK, but on the whole my experience with girls has been a miserable failure. A TON of relationships, but no girls ever seem to see me as hookup material, which is reall… | /r/seduction | 09/11/14 12:47 AM |
| 2 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.Hearing this from a girl who at least considers herself hot (and given how mean and honest people can be to girls about looks, you probably have a pretty good idea) means a lot more from hearing this from most sedditors or "PUAs" who seem to constantly be hooking up with solidly average to kind of gross girls. So thanks! Part of me thinks I'm decent looking, part of me thinks I'm just not seeing how ugly I am. Just gotta stick with the former part. Thank you for all your encouragement - it does … | /r/seduction | 09/11/14 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.Thanks for the kind words. I really do appreciate it. I think the hard part is feeling like I'll never be able to have a truly enjoyable single life where I can live my life and still have casual sex with girls I legitimately find attractive. Seems like girls always talk about "dating" average looking guys, but never just fucking them. Up until now I've always been in relationships my whole life since I was like 16 since single life seems pretty fruitless. I can hook up with not great looking gi… | /r/seduction | 08/11/14 11:00 PM |
| 1 | [FR] What am I doing with my life?Hey, OP. Sorry, but no sympathy here. You just described what sounds pretty much like a dream life to me. I've been on tinder for months, fucked a couple 6s, currently seeing one kind of regularly, never have been able to snag a truly hot girl for instant sex, not to mention one who will come let me do coke off her tits. Stop your fucking humble brag bullshit and go fuck yourself. "Wah wah I'm able to get amazing sex with a hot girl in a couple hours time. What's wrong with me?" Your life is so … | /r/seduction | 08/11/14 10:53 PM |
| 28 | Girls are likely MORE nervous than you. Even the hot ones.This thread is ridiculous, obvious, and depressing. Obviously when it comes to any man-woman interaction, if one party is really really attractive then they have the advantage and they pretty much will be able to fuck the other party without trouble. Everyone knows that, everyone realizes that. "If you're hot you can fuck hot girls". Awesome. I think everyone has always known this and always will. Fucking fuck. The whole point of Seddit is to give us normal guys hope and skills to maybe be able … | /r/seduction | 08/11/14 10:39 PM |
| 3 | Virgin. Need to get laid! Help!Getting laid isn't easy if you are starting at square one. With the right resources it's definitely something that can be learned, but just being in college won't fix things. This could take weeks, months or years depending on luck and how quickly he learns, how much he practices, etc. and if he's going crazy not getting laid, it won't help his game. I wouldn't jump right to a prostitute, but it might help demystify sex. I've never been with one, but if in a couple years I still haven't gotten w… | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 09:59 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Shitty date blew up in my face.I'm glad you posted this, only because I was legit curious if these guys were right about the shit-test... Fascinating, looks like they were. I've realized that if I just barrel ahead regardless of most things and try to escalate, it almost always works. IMPORTANT DISTINCTION: Of course, if she says "STOP" or "no" or actively stops things I stop. But I always start assuming it'll lead to sex and escalate the shit out of everything. Ended up with a FWB this way who I still see and who sleeps over… | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 09:02 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Levelling up from AFC noob to that cool guy I was always jealous of in social circles.I feel like you're agreeing with and reiterating my agreement/reiteration of what you said... So... I definitely agree. Hitting on hotter girls is much more stressful than hitting on sixes, so you need to practice hitting on hotter girls. | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 07:26 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Levelling up from AFC noob to that cool guy I was always jealous of in social circles.Yeah, although obviously the practice is still worth something, I'm pretty good at dealing with 6s now, but when it comes to girls I'm actually attracted to, that practice almost goes out the window. I'm sure I'm still a little better for it, but it's amazing how different it feels when you actually have interest. | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 05:10 PM |
| 2 | How Pickup Has Changed my LifeHey, thanks for the post. I started with all of this around 3 months ago, reading Seddit, hitting the gym (originally strong lifts 3x per week, but I'm at a 5 day split now), slowly replacing all of my clothes... though I've pumped the brakes on that since I'm realizing that as I keep working out and getting bigger, my clothing size is changing so I shouldn't invest too much in clothes until I'm closer to my goal size. Anyway, it's inspiring to see someone farther along in the journey. | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 04:58 PM |
| 1 | What is the fastest way for a 23 yo girl to get laid for the first time in her life?Not enough people use it for casual sex at all these days. At least not enough girls do, and I'm sure it's disproportionate to the amount of guys that do. Having said that, that really only is a good thing for OP. | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 04:37 PM |
| 1 | What is the fastest way for a 23 yo girl to get laid for the first time in her life?This. Tinder is pretty much an endless supply of instant easy sex if you have a vagina. You wouldn't even have to be forward, just say "Ok, when/where?" to one of the thousand vulgar openers you get. | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex makes me feel "inferior", as if I'm not good enough/attractive enough to be in a relationship with the girl, why is this and how can I overcome it?This is my thinking 110%. You've done a great job illustrating it. I've been in a series of relationships my whole adult life - it's so easy. But I'm TERRIBLE at getting one night stands/casual sex. It's way harder to get that kind of excitement/attraction out of a girl within hours of meeting her. Way harder. Obviously other people have different experiences, but in my experience casual sex is a much bigger accomplishment. | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex makes me feel "inferior", as if I'm not good enough/attractive enough to be in a relationship with the girl, why is this and how can I overcome it?Alright, I agree with you there, but it still feels like less of an accomplishment. It's hard to explain where I'm coming from since obviously we see things so differently. Maybe it's the investment:return ratio that gets me. Getting casual sex means you're attractive and skilled enough where you can get a girl to go to bed with you based on your sexuality and sex appeal (both physical and personality), and if she's willing to sleep with you after one night of flirting, you must have a lot of th… | /r/seduction | 07/11/14 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex makes me feel "inferior", as if I'm not good enough/attractive enough to be in a relationship with the girl, why is this and how can I overcome it?I'm with Jack on this one. Love and affection aren't accomplishments, anyone can be loving and affectionate. I couldn't feel any more diametrically opposed to the way you do. Not that I disagree, as it's all just opinion and perspective, but your description of Brad Pitt up there is my ideal. I would much rather have a ton of random attractive women wanting to fuck me than one equally attractive woman fucking me exclusively on the reg. But whatever floats your confusing and incomprehensible boat… | /r/seduction | 06/11/14 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex makes me feel "inferior", as if I'm not good enough/attractive enough to be in a relationship with the girl, why is this and how can I overcome it?Interesting. This is literally the exact opposite of how I feel. I've been in relationships my whole adult life, but they've never made me feel attractive. I only recently started working on seduction/pick-up, and it's really 100% to try and get casual sex. It's like, yeah I'm smart and loyal and funny and whatever, but anyone can be a likeable human being. Not anyone can be sexy. Girls are really fucking picky with casual sex, and they're way more concerned with being with a truly ATTRACTIVE ma… | /r/seduction | 06/11/14 11:28 PM |
| 2 | Is attraction natural or generated?MOVE ON. I did this when I was younger and it ended up being the most fucked-up relationship ever. So much cognitive dissonance and self-respect issues... Just don't. Find a girl you're attracted to. Don't even consider this girl for a second. | /r/seduction | 06/11/14 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Working on myself and gaming at the same timeYou sound exactly like me. Ended a relationship 4 months ago, working on myself and trying to learn game, even the nofap. One big thing for me though is moving out of my family's home (moved back to my home state because, like you, I got a much better job) and into the city so I have more opportunities to start approaching. As of now though, I can already tell approaching is the only thing that will start real change. I still put the pussy on a pedestal like CRAZY, and although I can see objecti… | /r/seduction | 06/11/14 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Noob here, what should I do?Unless you're naturally pretty good looking, you need to give her more reason to be attracted to you. If she's really a HB9, she pretty much has her choice of guys. You're obviously naturally attracted to her and she probably didn't have to do much to get you attracted... she's a HB9. But have you given her reason to be attracted to you? Are you a 9? If not, you need to build attraction with your actions. As it stands, you're just kind of playing the luck game, hoping that she was into you from … | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 11:16 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with me?Don't look for someone with whom to be in a serious relationship. If you are pointedly trying to find a relationship, you'll probably end up getting into one just for the sake of it. Lexa_lex is very right - get into a relationship because someone comes along who makes you want to be in a relationship with them. | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 10:19 PM |
| 1 | What inspires/motivates you personally?I'm motivated by fucking better looking girls more frequently. It's as simple as that. Since I turned 18, I spent 4 out of 5 years in various committed relationships. The most recent one was 2.5 years and we ended up living together before she became an alcoholic, gained weight, and I realized she was dragging me down. That ended 4 months ago, and needless to say, I have pretty much no interest in a relationship right now. Also needless to say, I don't have any practice with game, getting one ni… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 10:13 PM |
| 1 | How to be sexually confident?Yep, this is the one area where I feel like I know what I'm doing. Too bad I can't get any legitimately really hot girls into that situation to begin with. | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 08:43 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Tinder date. T-close, yeeaaaa.Jelly. I want someone incredibly fit. Grrmrmrnrmr | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 08:42 PM |
| 1 | How can I express my intentions without ruining a friendship?This only works very occasionally in my experience. One of my close female friends from highschool I've definitely ridden that line with. We slept in the same bed once but I didn't make a move (I was still like 17 and had no idea what I was doing), and we've had some interesting drunk text exchanges. I took her to homecoming. But we're really close friends and have both at various points expressed attraction/sexual interest but nothing has ever come of it. And it's never made anything weird. But… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 07:35 PM |
| 1 | How to be sexually confident?If you get to the point of making out, be aggressive. Depends on how physically imposing you are, I guess, but sounds like she probably wouldn't be threatened by you. Girls like guys being turned on by them, so if you're turned on, be REALLY sexual with the making out, progress forward not thinking "oh man, let's see if I can touch her boob now... now time to try down the pants..." but rather be really sexual, enjoy feeling her, and try to turn HER on. Think of everything like a sexual massage w… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 07:24 PM |
| 2 | What are "good vibes" and how to express them?I think it probably involves the whole body as well. The subtle ways you move, stand, react to things... Beyond the more basic macro stuff like proper posture, there are always tiny little differences based on how you feel. We shouldn't discount pheromones and chemical messengers either. It's not inconceivable that being tense could change your scent in a way that people could subconsciously pick up on. | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Hb8+ most awkward, confusing lay of my life. Also travelling makes it so much easier...Yeah, it seems like a really solid option for young people who want to travel abroad. I have a decent job so with a bit of planing/saving I can afford to travel, but I still have to keep things reasonable. Plus is doesn't hurt that one of my favorite mushroom strains is Koh Samui Super Strain. They're a joy to grow, and they're huge and beautiful so I'd love to see where those spores originally came from. (this is all conjecture and I've never even been in the same building as a psychedelic mush… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 05:44 PM |
| 2 | How To Be More Physically Attractive In 6 Unusual Steps (really)When I was a baby, my nose and hands turned orange because I was such a sweet potato fiend. Therefore, I would recommend that you keep your consumption of orange vegetables below 1 baby food container per AB of body weight (with AB meaning weight of an average baby, which is definitely a standard unit of measure) | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Hb8+ most awkward, confusing lay of my life. Also travelling makes it so much easier...Hahaha everything I read about Thailand makes it sound like such a great place to go. Awkward indeed, but I'd take that to fuck a HB8+ with such little effort | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 05:17 PM |
| 2 | How to compliment a girl's ass?Compliment her ass while you're fucking or otherwise engaged in some kind of sexual activity. It's easier to talk about that kind of thing in the moment if you're not used to talking sexually, and it's also a very appropriate time to be paying attention to her ass. If you come out of nowhere with a compliment like that and you're not confident about it, it'll seem weird and uncalibrated and depending on the girl, she could be put off that that's your focus in a non-sexual situation. Once you sta… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 05:12 PM |
| 5 | How to compliment a girl's ass?Hahahaha I don't know why I found this post so funny. I think it's because it's so fucking out of step with the vibe I get from OP. I feel like if he enacted this, results would be hilarious | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 05:06 PM |
| 2 | [Meta] Can we stop with the blog posts?As much as that was pretty over-simplified and I'd like to look more closely at the study, it seemed to have some basis. Will it make a HUGE difference, no. But the reason I say this is that I was super super unhealthy until this summer when I started eating a lot more fresh fruits and veggies and stuff, and I actually got a lot of unsolicited compliments after a few weeks about how I looked better and healthier and my skin had a much better tone to it. If you're already healthy, shoveling carro… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Hey Seddit, I'm DTF tonight. What should I do?This is good advice, thanks! I've already started to get much better at touching and escalating quickly. Being afraid to do that used to be my biggest problem, and since I've started really working at it, I've managed to f-close on every first date I've had in the last couple months (only 3 so far, but it's still a big step up for me). Even knowing the importance of it, tips like your edit there are incredibly useful since I'm still learning how to do it right. As hopeless and angry as I've been… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Hey Seddit, I'm DTF tonight. What should I do?Yep, so why would you want to be in a relationship with one? Fuck you, I'm really jealous. You have everything I've ever wanted. | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Hey Seddit, I'm DTF tonight. What should I do?Ugh, relationships suck dude. As a normal looking guy, I've been in them by necessity for my whole adult life it's so much unnecessary bullshit compared to finding new girls using good looks. Why would you bother having a girlfriend if you could get with a variety of actually hot girls at any time? I know I bother because I'm not hot enough to get the hottest chicks without some investment, so I have to date to increase the attractiveness level I'm able to be with. Finally single and determined … | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Hey Seddit, I'm DTF tonight. What should I do?Starting out with girls attracted to you immediately does away with the hardest part. And if you're looking for one-night stands, being incredibly good looking is pretty much the best thing you can do. As someone who is incredibly fucking sick of being in relationships just to get decent looking pussy for my whole adult life, looks would be the quickest and easiest way to what I actually want. But alas. The long game it is. | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Hey Seddit, I'm DTF tonight. What should I do?Just go for a girl one notch below you in physical attractiveness. It's easy and unless you really blow it, you don't need great game. Having said that, it's usually pretty worthless. Nothing worthwhile ever comes easy (well, unless you were born with model looks, but fuck those people) | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 01:23 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Tinder date. T-close, yeeaaaa.I had a very similar Tinder date, though she was definitely a bit more engaging, cracked a few jokes, anyway, there wasn't really any chemistry at all... But I still took her back to my place and we fucked and now we're in a pretty solid FWB situation. I can't see ever dating her, but we hang out pretty platonically and then fuck a few times and she spends the night... Can't really argue with the situation. She was definitely shy and we've gotten to know each other better over the last few "date… | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Insecure despite successAre you going for the women you truly want or just the ones you can get as kind of an exercise to prove yourself. I'm still doing the latter, and it is pretty joyless and doesn't help my confidence at all. If I was getting with the 9s/10s I occasionally see or fantasize about, it'd be exciting, way more fun, but even just starting out a couple months back, getting with girls who are "okay" looking, 6.5/10, just feels like work, even if I really like them as people. If I succeed it doesn't bring … | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Attracting the wrong type of girls --This is exactly the opposite problem I have. Unless you're looking to have kids, I don't get why you would seek one out unless, like me, it's seemingly the only way to get better looking girls to fuck you. | /r/seduction | 05/11/14 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Something a Female Friend Told MeVery good point. As someone who tends to be cynical and negative, I think I've trained myself to stray away from talking about hating things, but I'm going to need to find some balance (story of my life). | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Something a Female Friend Told MeHmm, this is a good point. In terms of the things I actually enjoy, or even my job (not a dream job but I do love some aspects of it and get better every day at skills I value) I think I could naturally pull this off... With the fitness it'll just take a bit of a mental adjustment. Unfortunately, I've always totally hated exercise, physical exertion, etc. Until I suddenly had the epiphany that having an amazing body would help me with girls and make me stop being moody and resentful of athletic … | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Something a Female Friend Told MeThanks for the tip! Any ideas on how to mention the gym without coming off as boring, typical, or a douche? Between my job and the gym, I have very little time left in my life. The gym is pretty all-consuming, and I've heard any girls say they hate boring guys who talk about working out. Also learning how to use Autodesk Maya for 3D animation, another super marketable skill when it comes to the ladies. | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Something a Female Friend Told MeYou make a good point. I think that Tinder is really getting in my head and fucking me up. I see the level of girl that I can match with, and it's so far below what I'd actually like. So it's really easy to feel like I have a pretty solid metric proving to me that the girls I actually want are not interested in my current physical appearance. It's improved my text game immensely and gotten me some hook-ups with 4-6.5/10s, even got me a FWB who I still see most weeks, but they're all definitely b… | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 02:01 PM |
| 3 | Just be friendly?"2 weeks later" More seasoned guys will have much more specific advice, but I can tell you definitively 2 weeks is way too long. You should frame your interaction as man to woman as early as possible without coming off as pressuring or desperate. Showing your intentions isn't desperate, wanting to be with attractive women is natural and expected. What is desperate is caring about the reaction, basing your self-worth or confidence off of her response. Obviously that can be hard to avoid, but it's… | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 05:53 AM |
| 2 | Something a Female Friend Told MeThis. I think that practicing game is important, but if the guys on this subreddit put more effort into getting 10/10 bodies, it would help results more than almost any other singular factor (unless they have autism-level social skill issues to overcome). I just started lifting 3 months ago, but I'm shooting for an underwear model body. That means a lot less time to go out and practice game, a lot less drinking/partying, etc. But once I have the attractiveness base maxed out for my personal pote… | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Something a Female Friend Told MeFor a one night stand, definitely the tell charming blonde Abercrombie model with money to throw around. I think club/bar game is significantly harder for average looking guys if your goal is to hook up with an actually stunning girl with a bangin body. However, there's some evidence that girls actually PREFER more average guys (6-7) in terms of relationships. So take that as you will; for me, I think it's pretty fucking depressing since I'm not looking for a relationship but it's very important… | /r/seduction | 04/11/14 05:39 AM |
| 2 | How do you handle two girls on the first date?This. If you just had a brief chat once while she was working, she could easily be afraid that you're a serial killer or something. You're gonna have to charm her enough where she no longer has any worries of you being a psycho so she can tell her friend to fuck off. It's not necessarily the worst sign. This has only happened to me once, and it turned out OK (got the girl to come home with me and f-closed), but the biggest disadvantage I can see was that it took a while, a few hours. Like others… | /r/seduction | 03/11/14 09:52 PM |
| 6 | [FR] Game over looksThis doesn't really change what everyone is worrying about when they say looks matter. They're not worried that good looking guys don't need game at all, they're worried that without the looks, even game won't help. A good looking guy being bad with girls shows nothing - a bad looking guy picking up a bunch of HB9s left and right would be a much better example. | /r/seduction | 03/11/14 07:21 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it's possible to game normally if you're not dressed up for Halloween tomorrow night?There's no reason not to dress up. Obviously it won't make things impossible, but not being in costume can't help your case. | /r/seduction | 31/10/14 07:04 PM |
| 1 | "You know I am going to try hooking up with you tonight?"There's a few things wrong with this - are you in highschool or college? If highschool, this is almost guaranteed to bomb. This could easily make her nervous/anxious even if she already wants to. I'm a big believer that directly discussing hooking up like this is usually a bad move. Obviously there are ways to do it right and build attraction, but if it's too logical and removed, it takes away the excitement and the influence you have in the moment. You don't want to have her weighing the option… | /r/seduction | 31/10/14 04:58 PM |
| 3 | How do I get with a girl I know at a party where I know everyone and there are not many people?and touch her while you're doing that | /r/seduction | 30/10/14 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Inviting her to your place on the first dateGotta second this dog shit. My beagle is a great asset when it comes to getting girls to come back home. But in any case just have some stupid reason to bring her back - check out your dog, show her your famous cocktail, just some sort of "explanation" or reason that isn't sex. She's going to worry about feeling/looking like a slut if she agreed to sex with you immediately, so have her make that choice when you can actually make a move and get her properly turned on. | /r/seduction | 30/10/14 10:44 PM |
| 1 | What is the best way to go in this upcoming situation?This is a hard one - I'm assuming that you weren't exactly mr seduction in high school, and the dynamic between you two was not a sexual one - at least she didn't see you in that sense. This is kind of an assumption, but based off the situation, do I have the gist right? If so, I think the key is to approach this in a way that totally shatters her high school perception of you. You don't want the old dynamic to return, you want her to be shocked at how much better you are now. Try to make the in… | /r/seduction | 30/10/14 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Kiss on second date after f close.Depends on the girl and your relationship with her. I also advocate going with the flow. I don't think that a hug is necessarily "going backwards" - by that logic, if you kissed her hello you'd be going backwards and you'd have to fuck her on her doorstep to avoid losing ground. Whatever you do, DON'T HESITATE. That's really the only way you could go wrong. Do whatever it is you're going to do as if you know she is going to do the same thing. If you're shooting for a girlfriend, I think kissing … | /r/seduction | 30/10/14 09:40 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone ACTUALLY seen the kind of results they want?This thread is my big question right now - I have no doubt that game helps and a lot of the more general self-improvement concepts here work, but I do worry that I'm not going to achieve what I truly want. Let me explain... My background: I'm OK looking, have always had decent social skills, but I've been too much of a nice-guy and too anxious for a long time. Starting in high school, I generally have always had a girlfriend (I'm 23 now). Most in high school weren't very legit, average looking, … | /r/seduction | 30/10/14 07:35 PM |
| 1 | How much of a difference will bulking up make?I'm at 3 months right now. Went from 130-150, and look decently better. But your estimate of years seems more on point. I'm shooting for model level as well (or else why could I ever expect/deserve to get girls with model-level bodies), and 3 months isn't even close. The small changes are nice though, and I don't feel BAD about my body anymore, it's just nowhere near the caliber I'm shooting for. | /r/seduction | 29/10/14 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so difficult ??I know, best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, second best time is now. I just wish I had started working out, dressing better, practicing my game, etc. years ago. At 23 years old, I should be wayyy farther along. That's what I get for staying in LTRs! | /r/seduction | 29/10/14 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Thank you Seddit! You've changed my life in less than a month.Hmm, just playing devil's advocate here (as I haven't been doing this for long enough nor can I objectively evaluate my attractiveness to know where I stand on that front), but all your statement really says is that good looking guys need game to get the hottest girls. Which doesn't mean that game will enable average looking guys to get those girls too... But maybe girls slightly better than their own level? As a picky asshole who has had his standards ruined by porn (which I quit a month or so … | /r/seduction | 28/10/14 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Really not a bar/club person, where are some more relaxed settings to meet women?See, you're not in America and that probably makes a big difference. Given that literally the majority of girls (and people in general) here are overweight, it definitely thins the crowd in terms of targets that are worth anything | /r/seduction | 28/10/14 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so difficult ??Yeah, bad way for me to start the day for sure. Oh well, only started working out 3 months ago and just started replacing my wardrobe (don't have enough cash to replace everything with nicer items at once), so I guess it's just a matter of time. Still, blerg. Maybe I should just get a hooker (or two) for now | /r/seduction | 28/10/14 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Why is it so difficult ??I'm half curious. Those are the types of post that on one hand are inspirational but on a much more real hand make me feel like I should probably just jump off a bridge | /r/seduction | 27/10/14 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Really not a bar/club person, where are some more relaxed settings to meet women?Where do you live? I think you have good advice, but seeing a pretty girl every 5-10 seconds? No way. I think there are females everywhere, but going somewhere where there's more than 1 or 2 hot girls takes a little bit more strategy than that. | /r/seduction | 27/10/14 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible to be fwbzoned?How quickly are you getting to sex? What is your general strategy? A lot of PUA stuff is built around getting right to fucking, which on some level requires not coming across as boyfriend material | /r/seduction | 27/10/14 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Short guys getting tall girls?Why is this downvoted? He's citing his experience and the way real women in his life act. It doesn't fit the dogma of Seddit, but are you really going to downvote anything that disagrees with your preexisting beliefs? What the fuck? | /r/seduction | 27/10/14 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Went to a rave last night, wasn't very successful.Well, that could be a big reason your vibe was off and not clicking. I do drink, but in general I think it's one of the worst drugs in terms of the vibe it makes people give off. When I'm on most drugs, I avoid drunk people instinctively like the plague | /r/seduction | 27/10/14 05:25 PM |
| 2 | 1 month into seduction, status updateI think that's somewhat true. I think being in great shape, having a good haircut, and wearing nice clothes can go far - plus if you add in behavioral adjustments it's pretty much a night/day difference. And I think that as long as you put in the effort as a guy, you can have a fighting chance at a lot of women. But I do think the genetic component of looks is understated at Seddit. Some people are gorgeous, and those people are going to be getting with other gorgeous people a lot more than a ge… | /r/seduction | 27/10/14 03:49 PM |
| 0 | 1 month into seduction, status updateI'm sure all of those things helped. But being confident and putting yourself out there does not automatically get you the kinds of insane results you're getting. Again, you must be pretty lucky in the looks department | /r/seduction | 25/10/14 08:54 PM |
| 3 | What do do with being really picky?I know people are probably sick of the Mark Manson talk, but this sounds a lot like the chapter on stories we tell ourselves because subconsciously we're trying to avoid change. Also, do you regularly watch porn? I've wrestled with being WAY too picky pretty much as long as I can remember. Stopped watching porn around 3 weeks ago now, and I find I'm definitely getting less picky - surprisingly less judgmental all around, not just on looks. As much as /r/NoFap is kind of a freak show, the premise… | /r/seduction | 25/10/14 06:46 AM |
| 13 | 1 month into seduction, status update1 month of correcting things like posture and you're having these kind of results? You must be amazing looking and have had the worst posture and tonality in the fucking world up until now. PS. Very fucking jelly. | /r/seduction | 25/10/14 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Tinder help? Why is this so difficult?Tinder is hell. Took me months of tweaks to get to the point where I was getting any matches. But now I have a pretty cool FWB who I've seen maybe once a week for the last month or so. Also hooked up with two other girls who were alright as well. I started on Tinder right out of a 2.5 year relationship, and it drove me to my lowest point in years. Luckily, I turned the devastation into a drive to learn seduction and get in shape (went from literally never exercising to lifting every other day, 3… | /r/seduction | 25/10/14 06:28 AM |
| 1 | Tinder help? Why is this so difficult?There's something in the algorithm that favors new users to get you hooked. You can easily delete your profile and start it up again - you'll lose all your current matches, but I can almost guarantee that you'll get new ones at the rate you were getting em when you started. | /r/seduction | 25/10/14 06:22 AM |
| 1 | What if you have more value than the girl?I saw the good aspects of them. We're talking about my friends, remember? They had to have some redeeming values. Doesn't mean they weren't spoiled, selfish, and overall less interesting and considerate than the uglier girls. You yourself said they didn't have to develop better personalities. Most people do. I'd say that people in general are pretty selfish if they're allowed to be for their whole lives. | /r/seduction | 21/10/14 11:46 PM |
| 1 | What if you have more value than the girl?I know. That's obviously the reason behind it. I don't think there's some genetic connection between being hot and having a shitty personality. But girls who are hot are far more likely to have shitty personalities since they're able to coast like that with no impetus to change. | /r/seduction | 21/10/14 11:38 PM |
| 1 | What if you have more value than the girl?Well, I'm talking in terms of female friends who I knew pretty well. I wouldn't make any assumptions about someone based on an initial interaction or approach or something like that. The funnier, more interesting girls I've known have been some of the dumpier less attractive ones, and my hot female friends have been a pretty bad group of people. | /r/seduction | 21/10/14 10:53 PM |
| 7 | What if you have more value than the girl?Unfortunately, this definitely screws everything up. The coolest girls I've known are almost universally kind of bad looking, and the hottest girls I've known have been far less interesting or pleasant as human beings. If you grow up being told how hot and great you are, why would you work to be more interesting or valuable? Obviously these are just general trends and there are always exceptions, but it's definitely a bummer | /r/seduction | 21/10/14 05:18 PM |
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