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That's only true in America though. In Asia, ugly men have a far easier time dating than fat women and it's not even close. Ditto for most of Europe. It's only an America and maybe parts of Africa where fat women enjoy more privileges with regards to dating.
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 09:04 PM
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The fact that you had to specify "healthy" proves my point that it depends on the individual. There's healthy men in relationships and toxic men in relationships. There's healthy men who are single/sexless and toxic men who are single/sexless. It ultimately depends on a man's mentality and upbringing. Japan has the most incels per capita in the world but I highly doubt that the Japanese are more toxic or misogynistic on average than Hondurans, Afghans, or Ugandans. Nothing in life is that binary…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:33 PM
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I'll try to be more succinct with it. Both men who are good with attracting women and those who are sexless/virgin are capable of mistreating or "dehumanizing" women. There's no correlation. One time, I fought my aunts ex husband who got drunk and almost choked her to death and it all started over her calling him out for cheating on her with multiple women. Sounds pretty "dehumanizing" to me but the man was undeniably a stud who was handsome and made good money running a carpentry business. It a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:27 PM
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I see your point but there's not much substance to it. America has a big problem with kids being born out of wedlock. And most domestic violence involves spouses. Are cat ladies and single women also inherently more immoral than taken/married women? Like I said, it depends on the individual. Maybe I just care about substance too much. A man who can flatter women deserves his props for sure. There's nothing wrong with game or "rizz" as the kids today call it. But game/rizz with women doesn't auto…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:13 PM
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I think you're reading too much into it. All I'm saying is that it depends on the individual. There's men with high n-counts and multiple baby mamas who barely understand women well and there's men with limited relationship/sexual experience with lots of female friends that they regularly communicate with. I have an older cousin with 3 kids out of wedlock with 3 different women and he still hooks up with different women from all over the country to this day(He's chatting with a Cuban girl from M…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 01:27 PM
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If someone says “that’s why you are a virgin/incel” than it doesn’t mean virgins are bad it means you said something that shows you lack the ability to understand women and communicate. That's literally calling them bad because society considers that to be misogyny. The whole idea that sexual experience correlates with understanding women is literally a subtle form of demonization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:01 PM
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This. Men might sometimes clown but women will run the joke into the ground and call any man who disagrees with them an "incel."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:58 PM
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WAP was one of the biggest songs of 2020 and became an iconic hit and meme. Would a song called "DAD"(Dry Ass Dick) get that level of praise, virality, and popularity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:57 PM
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🧢🧢 Mostly other women and gay men do that. Maybe some fuckboys too but average men are most definitely not going around mocking chaste women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:48 PM
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But they are… honor killings happen in the west Honor killings rarely happen in the West. Ironically, they mostly happen in a handful of immigrant communities that abide by Sharia Law. Most religious households including Baptist will ostracize women and men for having sex. Maybe in the 1970's or in some areas full of Mormons and Amish but Western Christians today aren't much different from the secular world. There's plenty of single moms and high n-count women in churches these days who don't ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:45 PM
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So, is it offensive when women say what you just said? That was basically my whole argument. I referred to a hypothetical supermodel woman who has good looks but is a man hating radical. I said that someone like that would only be worth a ONS for me while a plain Jane with a pleasant and feminine demeanor would be better in the long run. And it got me ratioed.... Sometimes, I wonder if women(or even men) on here actually read what people say or if they simply get triggered by a certain usage of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:38 PM
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It's funny how not a single person on here explained whether it was acceptable for women to say the same thing vice versa. If a woman on here said that she only values fuckboys or Chads for sex but more mature/level headed men for LTR's, would she get ratioed? Answer that with honesty. I reread my comment and it's hilarious how such a basic take got people so offended yet women on here say the exact same thing verbatim vice versa. If "cunt" is an offensive term even if it specifically pertains t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:29 PM
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In North Carolina which is a Red leaning Purple State, people oddly seem to be more indifferent to interracial couples than up North which is odd because there's definitely some degrees of racial tension down here between Whites and Blacks as well as Whites/Blacks and Mexican immigrants. Some of the same people that drop N bombs and "cracker" will switch it up completely when their bi-racial grandchild or nephew/niece is visiting them. I've seen that happen on both sides and it's odd.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 06:07 PM
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Lol because in both your scenarios, it’s the women getting “pumped and dumped”. So...if a man went out with a hot model whom he eventually discovered was an insufferable person with bad views, he's terrible for only agreeing to have a ONS with her? The actual antithesis of the first scenario would be the woman using the attractive “chads” for sex only, but preferring to settle with average men who are better relationship material. I said that in another post but it's basically the same thing. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:21 AM
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You're still removing it from the hypothetical question that was asked by the poster I responded to which is disingenuous. I'm not sure why saying that a hot woman who turns out to be a man hating cunt isn't relationship material and how a feminine acting plain Jane is better is problematic in any way. And cunt is just a substitute word for jerk or asshole. But people usually call men jerks and assholes, not women. Cunt is basically just a way to describe female jerks. Women always talk about wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:24 AM
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Sounds like a double standard. Women complain about "woman hating men" all the time. In fact, you're doing it rn even though it doesn't apply to me. Women also call those men losers, incels, neckbeards, trash, "in the closet", etc. all the time. All I said in response to the other poster's question was say that, if I had the opportunity to date a hot woman, I'd do it. But, if she was a man hating cunt, I wouldn't consider her for anything more than a ONS or pumping and dumping. And I'd prefer to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:30 AM
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How is that any different from a woman getting pumped and dumped by a hot fuckboy while preferring a responsible average man for a LTR. It's literally the same thing but with the genders reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:08 AM
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Was she a friend or a gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:53 PM
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In America, Amy Schumer would be considered "average" I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:52 PM
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Depends. If they're man hating cunts, I'd pump and dump them and prefer a feminine acting plain Jane. Edit: So, I'm getting ratioed here but the hilarious part is that women who say the same exact thing I'm saying verbatim but with the genders reversed will never get downvoted by the same women on here. Women love to talk about being treated like equals yet they literally can't handle it. My comment is actually milquetoast af but still getting treated like something evil. How is "pumping and dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:49 PM
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I’m saying that when white men date ethnic women they’re with above average in attractiveness women. But are these White dudes short, average/ugly, and unpopular? I doubt it. They’re not dating the below average women. Happens more than you think. In fact, it's a stereotype in Asia that White dudes date the Asian women that local men don't like. It's a form of copium....I know but it goes to show that White dudes are capable of dating non-White women who aren't dimes or top tier in looks. Also, …
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 10:28 PM
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Seriously? You're basing this on the LEAST Black region in the USA? Hell, from what I've heard, Black people of both genders have a very high IR rate out that way. In the South and Midwest where the majority of Black people live, this doesn't hold true. Most attractive Black women date Black men. And there's very little difference in attractiveness with those who date White dudes. Also, the idea that non-White men can only get ugly White women holds some truth but is highly exaggerated. When I w…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 10:04 PM
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Where do you live? In the South, this is definitely not true.....at all. 80% of BW/WM couples I've seen out here involved an overweight average looking BW and a redneck looking White dude(especially a Ginger).
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 09:57 PM
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Ehhh...this sounds like an early 2000's stereotype. I live in North Carolina. There's a lot of BM/WW and even a good amount of WM/BW here and I haven't noticed any real difference in attractiveness. I've seen a number of overweight or homely looking BW with regular looking White dudes. Also, I've seen Black, Asian, and Indian dudes date decent looking WW especially in the younger ages or in college. Overall, race matters but there's a lot of factors including face, height, body, style, money, an…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 09:55 PM
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"Women into Black men" is a bit misleading in the 1st place. You don't necessarily have to be "into Black men" to date an individual one.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 09:48 PM
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This. I don't know why some White dudes want to deny the general advantage they have in the dating world. It's not as if it means ethnic men automatically lose out because that's not necessarily the case either but White dudes generally have more options across the board.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 09:45 PM
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Yup. I used to do mission work on reservations and the suicide rates were very high and hopelessness was very common among the youth there. They assumed I was an NBA player too just because I was Black even though I'm not even tall(just 5'10).
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 09:42 PM
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It's not about becoming Chad. It's becoming a better version of yourself who can attract more women. You're reading into it too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:10 PM
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To be fair, there's a lot of women on Reddit who claim that most to all men are evil, bad, oppressive, abusive, deadbeats, violent, misogynistic, etc. on subs like r/TwoXChromosomes, r/FemaleDatingStrategy, r/ForeverAloneWomen, r/blackladies, r/relationships, and r/dating. A lot of women on here ignore and downplay it though. Reddit and social media just brings out the worst in everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:08 PM
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Do you also call out femcels who advocate aborting Black sons online?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:02 PM
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Yup. Down South especially, fatties get plenty of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:06 PM
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The chick who played Precious(who's married to a HVM).
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 01:15 AM
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Why does this even matter? There's plenty of "transactional", sugar, or Beta Buxx relationships that don't involve international marriage. As long as both parties are in agreement with each other on how the relationship should go, it's no big deal.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:38 PM
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I'm not just talking about Reddit. I'm talking about the mainstream media and cancel culture.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:53 AM
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Do you genuinely believe that or are you trolling? A mix of both. I guarantee you there’s no one with money around when I step outside my door and there’s no shortage of ugly men and their women walking around. Eh...I bet those men are actually just bland or average looking. But, taking your word for it about those ugly men, they still need to have at least some level of stability and competency to be able to date and attract women. A woman can be morbidly obese and flat broke and still find a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:29 PM
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Okay. I get that. But women tend to downplay it the most when they're in their 20's aka their prime years of attracting Chad and Tupac in a business suit. After 30 and especially after 35, those same women tend to get humbled and care more about what men think about women's preferences. There's a reason why r/datingoverthirty and r/datingoverforty are dominated by women.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 09:24 PM
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That's like saying rich men aren't really valued because they attract a lot of gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:16 PM
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In the West, women aren't expected to do that anymore except in rural conservative towns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:14 PM
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There’s tons of traditionally unattractive men in relationships. $$$$$$$$$$$
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:07 PM
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Do you think women truly care what men think about their preferences? Is this a joke? Of course women care a lot and there's tons of media content, mainstream articles, forum posts, and videos proving they care. Fat women care. Ugly women care. Black women care. Old women care. Socially awkward women care. Flat chested women care. Super tall women(6 ft up) women care. Femcels care. Single moms care. The only difference is that men get vilified for bringing these topics up compared to women. Wome…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 08:59 PM
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Yeah....As a Black dude who used to play football growing up, this is cap unless you're in a foreign country like China or Afghanistan(I actually got called "Kobe" a few times when traveling abroad even though I don't look like him lol). In America, nobody's mistaking an average looking Black dude for an athlete or celebrity lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:36 PM
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Tbh, I agree with this. The problem, tbh, is that it's more PC for women to shame and bash the men they aren't attracted to compared to vice versa. Madonna was doing thirst traps in her 60's not that long ago and the men who clowned her got branded as ageist misogynists. Also, it's politically correct to clown men for being autistic, short, fat, ugly, broke, etc. compared to women. I have no problem with women have high standards at all. It's just unfair that men get vilified as shallow misogyni…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 08:27 PM
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Sometimes that's true. But I think a short Blonde guy could smash a harem of short Latinas and Filipinas if he wanted to.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 04:33 PM
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Lol...if more and more people don't have kids to the point of no longer have replacement birthrates then society will slowly collapse. No amount of money and resources will change that. Japan is one of the most developed countries in the world and even they recognized it as an issue despite how many video games, robots, and hentai they have to supplant romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:37 AM
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Lol...imagine thinking forcing mass immigration on all countries is a solution to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:30 PM
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Even Japan recognizes that Japan will get destroyed as a civilization if they do nothing about its extremely low birth rates. I understand what you're saying but it's very short term thinking. Wait until 2050 or 2060 and we'll see how things unfold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:36 PM
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At this rate, let's not fix it. Modern women and feminists claim that the only men who struggle with dating are ugly incels and serial killer types so let's not change a single thing and see how America fairs in 2050 with the current model of dating. Chad and Tyrone can control the fate of this country's future with their sex and copulation while the increasing number of sexless Average Joe's can sit on the sideline and observe how the experiment fairs. Granted, if Chad and Tyrone do a great job…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:32 PM
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First off, stay outta black women business. It was an analogy. Don't take it personal. And secondly, if your face and body is already ugly, what makes you think a woman is gonna deal with your ugly ass attitude as well? You might’ve had a slim chance if your were actually pleasant to be around. Oh...for crying out loud. Is it too hard for women to just admit to wanting attractive men more than unattractive men? I don't even fault women for it cause it makes sense. Men don't go around painting ug…
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 06:02 PM
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That's true but that's only part of being a "nice guy." Maybe I have a different definition but I don't think you necessarily have to spazz out to be a Nice Guy. I use it as an umbrella term.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:55 PM
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So.......a Reddit circle jerk subreddit? If I post compilations of modern women and feminists being hypocritical, cruel, and manipulative towards men from the manosphere, could that be used as "objective" evidence too? I know women who deal with drama with men all the time in my own family. None of it involves "Nice Guys" at all. I'm talking women who've been choked and beaten bloody and I had to be called to help handle the situation. But I get it....PPD women call any man they don't like a "ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:52 PM
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Gonna need a source for this extremely bold and unsubstantiated claim: You can't be fucking serious. Are you seriously going to label any man you don't like a nice guy? Was Chris Benoit a "nice guy?" Is Marilyn Manson a "nice guy?" Is R Kelly a "nice guy?" Was Ike Turner a "nice guy?" Is the country of Honduras which has the largest amount of femicide in the world full of "nice guys?" Is Islam a "Nice Guy" religion? Are deadbeat fathers "nice guys?" You can't be fucking serious. Hell, I'm sure y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:48 PM
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Like I said, it's not men who claim women can sniff it out. It's women. Women say all the time that they can sense insecurity and toxicity in a man just from talking to him or based on his overall presence. Either that's a lie, a half truth, or the absolute truth. You need to take these claims to the women who make the claims, not men who've questioned it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:48 PM
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You're kidding right? The whole point of being a nice guy is to be a passive beta orbiter who bends over backwards not to hurt his female friend's feelings and tell them what they want to hear. In what universe does that contribute to the majority of drama? Nice Guys have tons of flaws but creating drama isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:45 PM
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I went on LipstickAlley.com, saw a bunch of hateful comments, and now I'm concluding that nobody should date Black women because of the toxicity on there. See the logic? And for the record, I totally get why women aren't naturally attracted to ugly Nice Guys. They just need to be more upfront about their reasons for not liking them instead of crafting this whole "bUt ThEy'RE tHE MOsT mISOGnYSTic" narrative that often gets pushed on Reddit. Misogyny and abuse has no monopoly over any type of man.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 11:47 AM
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they usually are rarely single Then they're not comparable to Nice Guys. Nice Guys repulse women. If these "cool girls" aren't seen as vile and disgusting by the average man then it's not comparable. Obese women are a better comparison because a number of men do find them vile and disgusting just like women see Nice Guys and obese women get fuckzoned and not taken that seriously for relationships. And Obese women who have luck with dating are often targeted by desperate broke men for their resou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:40 AM
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Women make fun of Bisexual men all the time on social media while men tend to find it more appealing in women. Also, plenty of women are xenophobic and racist lol. Ever seen those Karen videos?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:35 AM
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Is there proof that those type of women actually repulse men though? If not, then it's not equivalent to Nice Guys at all. Hell, one could argue that young TradCon women and gamer girls fall into that category and they don't turn off men. I think Obese Women are a better equivalent to Nice Guys because they tend to get fuckzoned as often as Nice Guys get friendzoned and they usually get settled for by exploitative partners who use them for their resources. For instance, single moms will often ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:33 AM
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Yep. I'm telling you.....modern women generally don't know what the hell they want. They create an entire boogeyman out of nice guys and obsess over them and call women who aren't misandrists "pick me's." Meanwhile, most domestic violence, femicide, deadbeat fatherhood, infidelity, sex trafficking, etc. is mostly committed by men who aren't even close to being "nice guys." It is the gift that keeps on giving though. The girl I debated with admitted out of her own mouth that women ignore red flag…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:27 AM
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This. How ironic. Shit testing and drama are crack cocaine to modern women and both men and women who lack it get villainized.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:16 AM
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This. Nowadays, men feel relieved by modern women who aren't ball busting, man hating feminists. I'd rather hang out with a so-called Pick Me any day of the week just for my own sanity lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:15 AM
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Exactly. It's one of those cases where the jokes practically write themselves. Admitting that women overlook red flags in men who are more attractive and have more status literally debunks the narrative of women being able to sniff out misogyny or toxicity. It'd be like me claiming that I'm Sherlock Holmes 2.0 for claiming that a man with a ski mask on could potentially be an armed robber while the man with the business suit on turns out to be the guy pulling the heist the whole time. Judging un…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:14 AM
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I mean...yeah. I'm aware of the Nice Guy tm definition. I'm pointing out that there's levels to them. Not all of them are raging lunatics who snap when rejected. Some are just weak-minded simps who genuinely don't know how to go about attracting women for relationships. There's a spectrum to Nice Guys tm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:41 AM
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Noticing and choosing to ignore can both happen, though, and I think that’s where we disagree. Not sure where the disagreement is. Men who better looking, have more social clout, have more charisma, and have more excitement for women are more likely to get their red flags ignored than Nice Guys who bring little to the table. If you agree with this, then we're talking the same language. There are plenty of objectively ugly men that women find very hot. This is not even close to true. Men who have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:37 AM
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He's not too good looking. Also, there's too many examples of women giving men with blatant red flags a chance to take this comment seriously. Let's not play this morality game. If Amber Heard looked like Rosie O Donnell, Johnny Depp would've put up with way less crap from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:30 AM
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That's not the only type of Nice Guy though. There's Nice Guys who actually would love a romantic fairy tale style LTR and marriage yet bring too little to the table to make it a reality with their love interest. The ones who are wannabe fuckboys or snap during rejection are part of the Nice Guy umbrella but not the only ones. A lot of times, Nice Guys are just beta orbiters who don't have a chance with their female friends or love interests no matter how nice they act. They're still pathetic. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:24 AM
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The difference is that the toxic men usually have some positive qualities sprinkled in that draw women in—humor, charisma, being good in bed, being stylish, being a more masculine/dominant personality, etc. Which was basically my whole point in a nutshell. I said in the very beginning that Nice Guys are usually less attractive, neurotic, masculine, and exciting on average from the get go. And that's why their toxicity gets noticed more than with more conventionally attractive or high status men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:07 AM
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They do those nice things initially, yes. Just like the toxic men who happen to be hot and extroverted..... Usually it does not go well if they are told no. Just like the toxic men who happen to be hot and extroverted..... Fine line between men who expect to be rewarded for being a decent human being and an incel. Both of these types of men are entitled. I'm not going to touch on incels since that's a different group altogether. But you have to understand that the Blue Pill advice that Nice Guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:43 AM
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That's incels though. Not nice guys. You got your definitions mixed up. Nice Guys are the beta orbiters who do kind deeds or say pleasant things to the women that they're interested in hopes that it'll win them over. It's like Screech's relationship with Lisa Turtle on Saved By The Bell. Overall, though, women are more likely to ignore red flags when an attractive and/or extroverted guy is involved. Nice Guys, on average, just say what they think women want to hear and lack a backbone which turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:31 AM
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I wasn't necessarily lumping it together. I was just pointing out that many research shows that high IQ men have higher virginity rates on average. Of course, there's plenty of intelligent people who are lower income. Hell, there's intelligent people who aren't even wise or have good judgment. I was just pointing out what the research entails.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 03:24 AM
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As for female equivalents, hmmm.....it's tough to say because men usually enjoy female attention and adulation even if it comes from women we're not attracted to. I'm not attracted to Indigenous looking Hispanic women but I've felt good about myself when some of them would show interest or flirt with me. I guess the female equivalent of a "Nice Guy" would be an Obese woman. Here me out.......Nice Guys struggle to get casual sex and are usually overlooked until they run into an older desperate wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:28 AM
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"Nice guys" are an exaggerated boogeyman that women came up with to justify rejecting their beta orbiters. Of course, they could just be transparent and admit that those beta orbiters they have are bland/ugly, socially awkward/autistic, broke, and boring on average but, instead, they run with the villainization of the infamous "Nice Guy" so that they can put a moral spin to it. I get it ladies. It is annoying that those beta orbiters you have think that their passivity and nice attitudes should …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:20 AM
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That power is often an illusion though. Average Joe working his 9-5 job may not be flashy, drive a sports car, take vacations to Italy or Jamaica every season, or look top tier but he still has some level of power. There's many traits women choose for that hardly have to do with power. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and many other HVM are introverts and women usually favor extroverted men over introverted men especially when younger.
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 01:59 AM
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Like you said, this is nothing new. It only feels new because of social media and camera phones. Also, most Americans are too fat, lazy, and complacent to fight any type of true "civil war." Even January 6th was no where near as bad as people made it out to be. People predicted this especially when Dylann Roof when on a shooting rampage in South Carolina. The media swore that would spark a race war and they'd even lie about White men burning down Black churches in the South which turned out to b…
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 01:48 AM
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I mean...it's been proven time and time again that the highest IQ men have lower fertility rates than lower IQ men on average. There's more kids being pumped out in lower-middle class and working class areas than rich or upper class areas on average. Yes....Chad and Tyrone give women more thrills than Mr. Average working a boring 9-5 job on average but that doesn't automatically make Chad and Tyrone the greatest men that society has to offer overall. They're just at the peak of attractiveness fo…
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 01:41 AM
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but it also covers men as well Nope. It got co-opted by big women. Also, fat men, ugly men, and short men don't have the luxury of political correctness coming to their aid when they get attacked, mocked, and harassed for their appearances. Hell, trans men get more protection than those types of men in the body positivity movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:33 AM
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So, you're telling me that the body positivity movement isn't real and doesn't cater to fat....*ahem*....."plus sized" women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:27 AM
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Well, you're the gender that goes around all over social media claiming that you can sniff the toxicity out of a nice guy or an insecure guy just from the way he blinks his eyes. How do women go from having such a sharp instinct with them to somehow being tricked so easily by other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:53 PM
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Ya'll have a whole body positivity movement that silences and cancels men for the mere accusation of fat shaming and are still complaining. 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:45 PM
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Men drop their standards all the time. Even the woman who played Precious got married to a High Value Man despite barely looking different from her movie self.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:36 PM
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Those "women desperate for attention" are simply women who have the courage to say what many other women are silently thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:33 PM
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But she doesn't want to date him/sleep with him So, you think taken women don't have the desire to sleep with men more attractive than their partners? Obviously, people generally have enough discipline not to act on those urges but that's a different thing from having a beta orbiter who you only want as a friend unless you're all out of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:46 PM
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Seeking Arrangements isn't sex work per say. It's an opportunity for women to take advantage of simping. Of course, it's not totally ideal but, even beside that, I know plenty of single moms and baby mamas irl who are able to find men that will let them shack up with them in their homes and date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:47 PM
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A physically attractive guy could be friendzoned if the girl is taken. That's not really friendzoned in the true sense. That's just a Chad or Tyrone not having that opportunity to date that woman for the time being. Friendzoned implies that the woman lacks attraction for the guy unless some circumstances lead her to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:44 PM
1

Poor baby mamas who look above average can still go on Seeking Arrangements and get their bills paid .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:08 PM
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I disagree. The bar is in hell for women these days. Plenty of baby mamas and single moms date stable men these days. Friendzoned men will rarely get to date/marry women who aren't fat, passed around like a collection plate, and/or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:04 PM
1

Being a "baby mama" didn't stop Ciara from getting with Russell Wilson or Kylie Jenner from getting with Timothee Chalamet....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 04:01 PM
2

Maybe those short neckbeards aren't bagging dimes but they could easily get 6's and 7's among non -White women. Race is definitely not the only factor in the slightest but it's still a major one.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:57 AM
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I meant average Asian women, not dimes.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:53 AM
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Nah. Those guys are capping about struggling with every race. Only White women have high standards for White men and even that depends. The bar is in hell for White men when it comes to attracting Asian women followed by Hispanic/Black women. You can be a 5'6 neckbeard with the personality of a rock and slay in the Philippines or Thailand.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:44 AM
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Okay. I can see that. But it still boils down to White men having a higher SMV than all of us so the conclusion is very much the same. Also, I wouldn't really say East Asians struggle much.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:39 AM
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White women lose way more status fucking foreign men than vice versa. Also, I should specify rich pretty women. They tend to put out less than average looking or overweight women on average.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:36 AM
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Men are valued for more than their looks and that's been true since forever.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:32 AM
1

Beats being undesirable.....
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:28 AM
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Ironically, the actual prettiest and in shape women tend to be serial monogamists. So, a White dude dating or having sex with a short Brown girl does not take away from his SMV. Men have no problem screwing a variety of women.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:27 AM
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Even r/AsianMasculinity claimed that K Pop changed the game for Asian dudes
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:23 AM
2

Light Skinned Indians can try to pass for Latinos and Arabs. But it ultimately depends on the individual.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:22 AM
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And you don't think White dudes at a predominately Asian or hell even Black gym won't bag a lot of women?
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:21 AM
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That's pretty disparate from SMV. Even Big Sean and Pete Davidson suffered depression at one point despite being rich and piping hot women. White dudes can suffer from mental and social issues while still collectively having the highest SMV of all men which they do.
/r/AllPillDebate27/05/23 06:19 AM
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Good thing looks are only a part of what makes men more desirable after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:53 AM
2

You're still missing my point. An assertive man can't just be assertive in areas where he's most comfortable or where he doesn't have to take any risks. That defeats the whole purpose of being assertive. Assertive means a man will try to take charge even in situations that are uncomfortable and risky such as if a 6'3 muscular asshole started harassing a him and his wife at a bar. That's very much a scenario that will test how truly assertive a man is. Ditto for if there's corruption going on at …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:06 PM
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Women don’t dislike “nice guys” they dislike desperation. Desperation? I guess we have a different definition of "nice guy" because I always thought the biggest issue with nice guys was that they rarely revealed their true intent to the girls they admired and they just expected the love/attraction to be reciprocated based on their kind deeds and politeness. What you're describing sounds more like a simp or, hell, even a fuck boy. One could argue that simps are a close cousin of nice guys but not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:02 AM
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Lol...nice deflection. A situation like that could happen at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:50 AM
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I personally never faulted anyone for having a racial preference as long as it's not rooted in hatred. I personally don't find Indigenous looking Hispanic women attractive at all save for a rare one but I have nothing against Hispanics of any type at all. I also don't find most Northeast Asian women attractive(unless they're Blasian/Hapa) but I've traveled to Japan before and respect them and their culture as well as Koreans, Chinese, and Mongolians. Your racial preference says nothing about how…
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 02:29 AM
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If 5'7 130 lb man gets disrespected by a 6'3 muscular man who's 220 lb at a bar, how would you as a woman suggest he become assertive in a way that doesn't put him in ICU?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:34 PM
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Define "pushover." If a 5'7 130 lb man picks a fight with a 6'3 220 lb man over disrespect, would his confidence be worth being beaten into ICU? If a man tries to avoid petty drama and controversy at all costs, is he a "pushover?" Women love to throw the word "pushover" around without specifying. A man who simply wants a drama free life in this already stressful fucking world isn't a "pushover" in my eyes but rational. But I guess rational and peaceful is considered "boring" these days in the We…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:30 PM
2

Don't forget the stats that show that the highest IQ men tend to have higher virginity rates than lower IQ men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:26 PM
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But doesn't this contradict the claim that women can detect the alleged misogyny and toxicity of "Nice Guys" just from the way they talk, blink their eyes, and smile? Hmmm....it's almost as if women will bend over backwards to find "red flags" in men who aren't Chads and Tyrones while the latter have the benefit of having their "red flags" overlooked......................until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:24 PM
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Can't cosign this. I have relatives in the hood who are always fussing each other out and getting involved in drama and I always made sure to avoid that in a relationship as much as possible. I rarely meet men who love drama to the same degree as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:22 PM
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Very underrated post! If a woman fucks up around a non-toxic man or a gentleman, she'd have a hard time putting the blame on him. But, if she hooks up with a toxic man, she can better play the victim and craft the narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:20 PM
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Most incels are softer than Charmin Ultra and absolutely terrified of women(or people in general) irl so that's highly misleading. Being an asshole or douchebag takes incredible charisma, extroversion, and risk taking which most men don't have the balls to become. In a nutshell, that's why women tend to dislike nice guys because being polite and avoiding drama is seen as the path of least resistance in the minds of women and they see toxic men as being more risk taking and bolder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:16 PM

Ageism mostly impacts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:03 PM

Tell that to Tim Scott. He remained a pure virgin because of his religion and now he's getting slammed and deemed sus for being an unmarried and potentially virgin man in his old age. Has nothing to do with Presidency but it goes to show that telling men that sex and relationships aren't everything is totally misleading advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:01 PM

I mean...being a late bloomer is still deemed suspect for a man even though I don't believe it should. Hell, the Black Republican Tim Scott is getting questioned about his virginity and marriage status right now even though that has nothing to do with leading a country. However, if you've had moderate/semi-moderate success with women in your 20's, the 30's is usually the Golden Age for male dating/romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:59 PM

Uh-huh. That "independent woman" stuff is fine and dandy until those same women hit the age of 35 without a husband or family. Also, you're overestimating how many women are actually making it. Many college educated women are in debt and still living paycheck to paycheck. The proliferation of young women who signed up for sugar websites and OnlyFans in recent times debunks the narrative that the average young woman is doing so great and is successful in life. It's all good though. The U.S. will …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:56 PM

Tell that to South Korea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtymEzFRws8 https://time.com/6156537/south-korea-president-yoon-suk-yeol-sexism/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:51 PM
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It applies to all races. A guy with the traits I listed in the 3rd paragraph will do well with different types of women even if he's a Martian from outer space.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 12:10 PM
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Nah. Everyone says this but, in the South and Midwest especially, the majority of White women who look like Mama June and Tess Holliday end up with White men(including themselves). People love to act like their best looking women are tribal and loyal but that's just copium regardless of which race is saying it. RiceGum the Asian Youtuber pulled one of the finest White girls ever(Abby Rao). Thinking attractive women of your race are off limits is a form of copium.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 02:05 AM
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Of course but, like many men, I'm realistic and realize that there's only enough Stacy's with that mentality to go around. So, I'd have no problem getting with a feminine acting basic looking woman for a LTR. Women, on the other hand, tend to think that there's an unlimited supply of 6 ft. tall Chads and Tyrones waiting around the corner that put us average 9-5 guys to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:15 AM
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I'm 5'10 which is roughly average and no comment about the BBC thing. And Asian/Indian guys pull White girls especially with the rise of K Pop. It's just that their women date out more.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 12:59 AM
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Because some aspects of SMV can be universal at times. I played football back in high school and hung out with a lot of frat bros in my college days. I smashed Black and White women equally(I'm Black.) At the end of the day, if a man is highly successful with his own women, there's a good chance he could pull women of other races because certain traits like height, social skills, grooming, sense of humor, face, muscles/fitness, social status, wealth, etc. are universal with women.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 12:50 AM

They're both in-shape (but not crazy about it), decent to good looking, do drugs regularly, and most importantly, they are extremely social and fun guys who enjoy talking to women. Which is why I specified that my post mainly applies to average looking men. Obviously, being decent to good looking will offset some of the need for economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:36 PM

Yes it is. Unless you're a sophisticated criminal, you need a job to make money. And the better your job pays, the more money you make. You can't separate the job from the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:04 PM
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At this point, I'd rather date a plain Jane who acts feminine and has traditional values over a hot bimbo who's a man hating feminist. I know a number of men who think like me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:54 PM
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If you're not dating Danny DeVito after he filed for bankruptcy, you're AWALT. /sarc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:50 PM

Nice gaslight. Men in the West have NEVER been bigger simps and White knights than at any point in history and look at the thanks we get for it. Confident men mistreat women all the time anyway. Do you even know what confidence even is? It's simply a man believing in himself and not letting other people affect his self esteem. That doesn't automatically make the said man a catch though. I know some broke guys who've beat the shit out of women and they're ironically the most confident people I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:19 PM
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I DO believe in the Wall but I think that it: A. Mostly applies to White women of Northern European descent B. Applies to high n-count and former bombshell women who peaked early but fell off looks wise(Sort of like a Lark Voorhees type of fall off). C. More so applies to women 35 and above. Many women 30-35 can still pass for mid-late 20's unless they have bad genes or are on drugs. That said, the Wall is highly exaggerated because, for one, women of all ages have desperate men willing to sleep…
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 08:22 PM

This post is hilariously ironic. You literally bring up things that a good job will greatly help you out with (having a house/apartment with no roommates and paying women a weekly allowance) yet say that you don't need a good job to attract women at all. Like.....do you not see the contradiction here? We're literally living in an inflation cycle rn. A $15 an hour job will NOT put a man in a position to own a place without roommates, go on lavish dates, and pay random women a weekly salary to kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:00 PM

I mean...they still have a slight advantage over younger men but my point was that getting older and making more money wasn't enough. You also need to meet a certain looks threshold to do well with younger women(the attractive types) too. People on both sides of the argument exaggerate too much to have a nuanced take on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:22 AM

Except that's extremely painful with long term negative effects. Plus, if you're a millionaire, height isn't even a factor. Lots of rich short men get dates and sex. My post was about regular guys, not millionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:58 AM
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Which is dumb imho. We all know how look obsessed attractive young women are so it makes no sense to assume that a basic looking 30 something man will be able to score them unless they decide to beta buxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:12 PM
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You think 25 year old woman is turning down a 40 year old high value man with good looks just because of his age?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 06:08 PM
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Well, you have a great point. Times are changing and these new generations are not having the same chances as their parents. We will soon see how society will adjust or if just men will give up and go for virtual gfs. The later would be ideal, women are too much work for often nothing. Well older men have made more money and resources than younger men since the dawn of humanity. I'm just saying that a lot of success that 30 something men have isn't all that great even though we're still doing mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:13 AM
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Even women on here mentioned confidence and maturity as being draws to older men. I personally wouldn't rank that above resources but obviously these women have a point. Many women say that older men are more mature and easier to communicate with than younger men for what it's worth. I have an uncle in his early 50's who's tall, dressed nice, and has dreads and he has no issue with women in their 30's. He's a chef at a BBQ restaurant too so it's not his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:47 AM
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You almost got it right but you're not speaking the whole truth. Very few Millennials have high paying jobs and successful businesses in their 30's and even those that do are usually raddled with debt. Of course, it still puts those said men above flat broke Zoomer boys but not by too much especially if we factor in looks and long term dating. Girls in high school and college date guys their own age all the time. They (college ones) can be very receptive of 30 something men but they're not going…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:38 AM
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That's true but it's not automatic. A 5'6 man with a unibrow stocking shelves at Walmart isn't going to be able to walk up to random 20 something women and feel the benefits of getting older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:27 AM
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If you are a 50 year old man looking for a woman in her 30s you will struggle. Those days are gone. Heh? 30's is usually when women start to become really receptive of age gap relationships because they're usually on the prowl for High Value Men for marriage and they're truly grown and can relate to other adults in various ages. I agree that 50 something men who aren't rich/sugar dating have almost no appeal to 20 something and younger women but 30 something women are much less likely to be turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:25 AM
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Ehhh....it's more to do with achieving more status, resources, and money. Plenty of young dudes are confident and broke at the same time. Frat boys come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:29 AM
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To be honest, having a baby face goes both ways. It makes age gap relationships way easier than looking burly, older, and rugged. I'm 31 and I've dated girls younger than me where people thought we were the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:27 AM
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Femcels are just women who can't get Chad and Tyrone to commit.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 01:10 PM
1

I was going to say.........we have octogenarians posting on Reddit??
/r/AllPillDebate19/05/23 01:41 PM
1

"It ain't trickin if you got it."
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 11:29 PM
5

Tell that to Terry Crews...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:59 PM
1

In America, being half Black is damn near the same as being Black.
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 09:48 PM
3

Who's more likely to get taken seriously? A female rape victim or a male rape victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:41 PM
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Yes but on a lesser scale. Women are more likely to form sisterhoods with each other and give each other the benefit of the doubt whereas men pretty much demand you show us results first before we break bread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:38 PM
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Uhh...no we don't. Even in the manosphere, men have major feuds and disagreements literally all the time. Men are skeptical of other men by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:31 PM
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Never seen her parents but she did say her father was Black in an interview which means she's a light skinned BW.
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 09:25 PM
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Indoctrination....
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 09:16 PM
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Ice Spice is a light skinned Black woman. Nobody thinks overwise.
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 09:15 PM
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Men have more resources and status after 30 though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:06 PM
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To be fair, many Gen Z girls are on that "non-binary" look wave where they look borderline trans or like dykes more than feminine women. There's plenty of hot ones too but the one credit I'll give to 30+ women is that they're less likely to go for that look.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 08:05 PM
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That's still only a few studies though. 90% of these studies rank White men the highest. Black men date IR more than Black women but White and Middle Eastern men also date IR more than their women. Your obsession with "cucking" is unhealthy.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 09:17 PM
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College attendance is declining for everyone but Asian/Indian men in America. Hip hop did not peak in that era at all. Hip Hop sales were declining across the board and Pop and EDM dominated the radio. And these stats rarely post anything positive about Black men. Every once in a Blue Moon they do but they favor White men 85% of the time.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 09:03 PM
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As a Southerner, this is not true at all. The vast majority of fat and/or ugly White women are with White men. Even Mama June had kids with a White man. Not every White person is UMC. Middle to lower class White men get with Melissa McCartney and Amy Schumer looking White women all the time. Go to any lower-middle class White area in the South and Midwest and you'll see exactly what I mean. The idea that Black men take "fatties" and White men bag dimes is a heavy form of copium that only applies…
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 07:21 PM
2

Dress like a K Pop star and touch grass. Problem solved.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 07:16 PM
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This doesn't mean much. There's more to SMV than screwing around.
/r/AllPillDebate14/05/23 07:15 PM
2

Exactly.
/r/AllPillDebate13/05/23 04:56 AM
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Not even close to true.
/r/AllPillDebate13/05/23 04:55 AM
1

Overweight women incapable of losing weight are a small minority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:39 PM
1

Gym and diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:06 PM
1

Try approaching men in Peru.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 08:14 PM
0

If Pete Davidson was 5'6, he'd never be viewed as a sex symbol.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 08:12 PM
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I agree. OP is being biased.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 08:11 PM
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I could post you comments of BW celebrating Jamie Foxx's sickness because he was with White women. Let's not play this game.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 08:10 PM
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Define socially disadvantaged? Even Richard Spencer the Alt Right racist was exposed having a Black woman hanging out by his bedroom. I'd say Black men are seen as more of a threat than Black women for obvious reasons(Men in general view other men as threats.)
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 08:09 PM
0

Simply having a job doesn't absolve you from being broke in this economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:55 PM
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You're basing this on forums? Seriously? Women bash broke men all the time online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:54 PM
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Broke women can go on Seeking Arrangements and get wined and dined.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:53 PM
1

"Just be good looking bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:51 PM
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Fresh Prince from F&F immediately comes to mind. Dude is blatantly a slightly neurodivergent simp and sugar daddy in denial who plays up his "alpha" image for the show. He even had a video that was supposed to be his "field report" and he was sooo socially awkward and stunted around the women he "dated" that it almost felt like an episode of Impractical Jokers. The key here is to simply take Red Pill advice to elevate yourself as a man without idolizing the prosperity preachers on the platform. …
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 07:10 PM
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Reddit keeps piling on Indian dudes but I honestly rarely see them struggle irl in my Southern city. They're usually with their own women but I've seen the younger ones with cute Blondes. I would've never even known Indian dudes struggled much if it weren't for Reddit tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:02 PM
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Stop the cap. Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, and Stevie Wonder could probably sleep with a harem of obsessive female fans of older ages if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:59 PM
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Lol....not at all. Well, scratch that, I think Black dudes are stereotyped as more athletic or muscular than White dudes but not taller. Everyone knows White dudes tend to be taller than average(especially those with a Northern European background).
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 06:21 PM
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True. If you ain't Stringer Bell, Ghost, or Tupac in a Business Suit, you won't eat that well unless you're genetically blessed(handsome, tall, etc.) People consume porn too much.
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 06:19 PM
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Yup. That said, the expectations of White dudes are also might be higher. I feel like a 5'10 Black, Asian, and Latino guy will be perceived as "taller" than a White guy at the same height which makes no sense at all but it's because people expect White dudes to be naturally tall so, when they're not, they get penalized more for it. It's like being a Black dude who can't play basketball(like me). When people pick you for the team and you turn out to be trash, you get penalized more than being a W…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 12:28 PM
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Eh...close but no cigar. It's not worth the discussion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 02:43 AM
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Race discussion isn't allowed here. But I'm Black so connect the dots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:12 PM
1

5'10 though? Isn't that a bit of stretch? I understand people are often bad at reading height but, as an actual 5'10 dude myself, I've been described as "tall" way more often that I've been described as "short." You live in the U.K. though so I don't know if their average male height differs from the U.S.(which is 5.9 and a half.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:34 PM
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But it's politically incorrect to call out that behavior for a group of women that are opposite of my race while short men are scrutinized for it. I'll leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:31 PM
1

Dorky? I guess that depends on where you live. Playing football in the South, I've met more tall dudes who are extroverted, fun, and rough around the edges.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:30 PM
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Besides the face that it's casually bigoted.(Literally reminds me of White folks who would "compliment" me by telling me that I don't "act Black."), it's mostly driven by confirmation bias and social media trends. Once social media got a hold on what a "Napolean Complex" was and repopularized the saying with regards to short men, many women started developing a social bias against short men and overanalyzing any insecurity and behavior they displayed. So, if a woman deals with ONE short man who …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:29 PM
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To be fair, beggars can't be choosers. Every man wants a dime but that doesn't mean we all get with dimes. I always wanted to fuck Tatyana Ali(Ashley from Fresh Prince) since I was young but that doesn't mean I can just show up and smash her. She's obviously going to have high standards. The man is your scenario is still doing better than an incel or lonely bachelor so, in that regard, it's still a bit of a flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:20 PM
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C'mon dude. Timothee has young women thirsting all over him in America and he's widely considered a sex symbol. Especially for the Gen Z generation, there's no young male actor who's close to him and he'd be smashing tons of young girls who are into "pretty boys" if he wasn't famous.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 03:05 PM
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This is true but I'd admonish making this seem automatic cause a lot of young dudes are under the impression that it's just going to be a smooth transition. A lot of Millennials in their 30's are broke af even if they have a steady job and getting into relationships with childless women who are "average at best" or single moms. Basically, 30's are usually a man's prime but nothing is guaranteed. A 20 something dude with zero relationship/sexual experience, no career growth beyond retail, lives w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:42 AM
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But the quality of their options diminishes. Sure.....there's 36 year old single moms getting passed around like a plate of peas by Billy Bob and Pookie and Ray Ray but that doesn't mean that a High Value Man will give them a single glance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:33 AM
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To put it bluntly, men are much less penalized for looking grown/experienced than women. Men with gray on their hair or beards are more likely to receive compliments for it than women. And men who look older for their age are less likely to be penalized for their looks than women who look older for their age. Otis Redding damn near looked like a 40 year old man in his mid 20's but he still was widely regarded as a sex symbol in music. Of course, if the older man in question is fat, broke, inexpe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:31 AM
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There's been interviews with college girls saying that they'd rather date a drug dealer than a workaholic....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:47 PM
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Hmmm......my city is packed full of Mexican and Indian immigrants who are short and they're ironically the most peaceful people you'll ever meet. Maybe the "angry short guy" stereotype is strictly an American phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:43 PM
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Self improvement involves tons of things though: Looks, money, fashion, grooming, clout, charisma, etc. Even focusing on making more money and attaining more resources will give you more confidence around women.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 08:19 PM
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r/notlikeothergirls
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 08:00 PM
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That's sort of different because money plays right into hypergamy and is pretty much a cheat code. But, if we're simply talking about men gaining clout just from their dating experience, that's where my point holds strong. Dating poor women from the hood or trailer parks gives you no clout in UMA suburbs. Dating Latinas won't necessarily make you a catch for Asian women. Dating fat women won't boost your chances with thin women. And the list goes on. Pre-Selection is real but it's not universal.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:17 AM
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Pre-Selection is real but the caveat is that it ONLY works with women within the same demographic. In other words, if you're surrounded by rich women, having relationships with rich women will improve your status with them. If you're around hot women, having relationships with hot women will improve your status with them. If you're around Latinas, having relationships with Latinas will improve your status with them. And so on. But simply having dating success alone doesn't mean that you're going…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:17 PM
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Plenty of dudes prefer Latinas look wise to Asians though. I'm one of those guys. The fact that Latinas come in all colors and ethnic backgrounds adds to the appeal too. You can bag a White girl from Argentina, a Black/Mulata girl from the DR, a Mestiza from Colombia, and even Asian Latin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:46 PM
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There was no propaganda. There's been more promotion of WM/XF than anything else and there's less stigma and controversy associated with it. Also, BW collectively celebrated Serena William's and Meghan Markle's marriages to WM. Sounds like promotion to me.
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 08:29 PM
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Most Black and Mexican men date/marry their own. Only a handful are into East Asian women. I grew up in a state that's like 20-25% Black and I can count the number of Black men who were into Asian women on one hand: 3 were military guys stations overseas and 1 was a Weeb. Never heard of Mexican guys liking Asian women like that either but I never lived in Cali/Texas either so I can't speak on that.
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 08:02 PM
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This is probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard. You're essentially calling for sexual communism instead of letting people date/sleep with who they want.
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 08:00 PM
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Why does that even matter? My point is plenty of Black and Hispanic women put White men on a pedestal.
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 02:29 PM
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That's why I'm mostly apolitical. Both sides are shills for billionaires, corporate interests, donors, and lobbyists. Trump is interesting because he technically was both a curse and a blessing to the GOP but that's another topic by itself. Either way, I'm 30 so I'm not Gen Z but I've interacted with Gen Z before and even the young country dudes I know who own guns and hate Biden aren't rushing to vote for Trump or DeSantis. Enthusiasm for politics as a whole is strongest among those 40 and over…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:11 AM
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To be fair, I live in the South and I'm fully aware that there's Trump fans among the youth. I'm just saying that political enthusiasm as a whole just seems to be on decline for Gen Z from what I've seen. Even the "anti-woke" ones I've seen aren't rushing in line to vote for a Republican. Depends on your circle though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:44 AM
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Even the Alt Right circles among Gen Z online despise the GOP. That alone should tell you something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:57 AM
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Modern women are just afraid of the very "Beta Buxx" they used to fall back on for relationships once they reach 30 removing themselves from the local/national dating pool. They crave Chad and Tyrone and call average men every negative adjective in the playbook but they also know that a good portion of Chads/Tyrones are going to pump and dump them and not want to commit to them for a LTR. So, they have to shame "passport bros" to convince the very men they look down on but still want around as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:37 AM
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I'm politically indifferent for the most part but I call cap because people said the same exact thing about Republicans verbatim for the midterms and they fumbled it, literally breaking the trend of the opposing party having an advantage in the midterms. The GOP even shat on the existence of Gen Z voters while threatening to raise the legal age to vote because of how awful the midterms were for them. That said, I think young people are more apolitical than anything due to how they've seen both p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:30 PM
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Because he looksmaxxed and revamped himself to improve his SMV which is one of the core RP tenements. He has whole videos showing how he used to look and how "lame" he was before he changed things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:05 PM
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So, you're basically asking for something that doesn't exist. Men have been primarily valued and held in high esteem for their ability to attain resources, gain social clout, and attract women for centuries. Just because we're more "progressive" as a society doesn't change that. And women are some of the biggest perpetuators of this hierarchy. Matter of fact, the RP subscribes to these beliefs(ala hypergamy) from studying women's collective behavior rather than making shit up. It's hardly someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:03 PM
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it’s only red pilled men going around saying that they have the keys to success. No one’s fucking asking you to blindly believe shit about anyone else. And male simps like Steve Harvey and Dr. Phil have been saying otherwise on National TV for the past 2 decades. Male simps and feminists have been preaching how "being yourself" or "respecting women" or "waiting for the right woman to come" is the best strategy for attracting women for years. The RP is counter to this mainstream advice. You guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:25 PM
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Still beats men remaining sexless/dateless losers under the belief that "the right woman will eventually come." Playing the numbers game works out better for men. If a man hasn't had a certain level of dating/sexual experience past a certain age, he'll become a joke to society and assumed to either be an incel, creep, closet homosexual, or all of the above. Your advice works for Disney or Lifetime movies but not real life. It has nothing to do with devaluing women. It has everything to do with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:14 PM
6

Blue Pill means that you believe that personality, chemistry, and being a White knight attracts more women than being good looking, making good money, and not putting women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:09 PM
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Like I said, there's zero proof that young "non-RP" men are doing so well with women. All the data points to "normies" having big increases in datelessness, sexlessness, inceldom, and being perpetually single. And there's plenty of examples of dudes who actually applied the RP instead of just reading it and getting results from it. Just look up the group "Red Pill Avengers." It's literally full of RP guys who used to be complete cornballs who were bad with women who applied RP techniques and bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:02 PM
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And yet we're supposed to blindly believe that "non-redpilled" men are eating well in the dating world despite all the numerous stats about young men being increasingly single, sexless, and dateless. No one said that simply knowing about the RP will magically make women come to you. You have to actually apply the methods such as looksmaxxing, working out, learning game, etc. to get more results. Like I said, plenty of male feminists and Blue Pilled simps get ZERO play from women no matter how ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:59 PM
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I mean the RP itself said that getting men's foot through the door(via dates/hookups/sex) is one of the main goals. RP rarely claimed to be about relationship stability. Only a few like Kevin Samuels tried to steer it that way but RP is ultimately about preventing men from becoming sexless/dateless losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:55 PM
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Yeah.....the 20's are literally the prime years for dating and establishing relationships and I say that as someone turning 31 soon. Saying "it's gonna get better when you're over 30 and things level out" is a trope as old as time itself but that's not exactly a good thing. And the stats are already showing a shift in our dating dynamic which ironically involves a lot of online dating and dating apps. So, no.....you can't really separate "real life" from online as much as you think we can. Many …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:43 PM
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Red Pilled men who actually follow the dating advice are some of the most successful at dating though. Austin Dunham literally has entire videos proving that he's more successful with women on Tinder/dating apps than literally 90% of Blue Pilled men. Obviously, there's going to be losers out there but that goes for any group. There's plenty of Blue Pilled simps who get ZERO play from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:30 PM
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I got messaged by a Filipina on Quora of all places once. She claimed she loved Black men in random dating answers of hers and started following me during the time that I used to use my actual picture for the profile pic. Now, this girl was legit and looked pretty basic/average and I'm still actually "friends" with her to this day even though I never messaged her because I'm not into her at all. But it's def a red flag for a woman living in the Philippines to make posts about loving Black men an…
/r/AllPillDebate30/04/23 02:45 AM
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Even Mr. "Thug Life" himself coined the phrase "playa with a passport."
/r/AllPillDebate29/04/23 05:04 PM
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Not really. I lurked an incel forum once out of curiosity and they were simping for Doja Cat who's (half) Black.
/r/AllPillDebate29/04/23 04:42 PM
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Can't speak for anywhere else but, in the South, I've rarely seen White men go crazy over Asian women. Not saying there aren't AW lovers down here but it's no where near as common as Reddit claims it is. White men down South generally idolize White women(especially Blondes/Redheads) a lot and they usually date out with Light Skinned Hispanic women and even Black/Bi-Racial women more than Asian women. I honestly never even knew WM were into AW like that until I started posting on the Internet yea…
/r/AllPillDebate29/04/23 02:26 PM
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Go on Tik Tok. Plenty of Black and Hispanic women claim that they prefer White men over their own.
/r/AllPillDebate29/04/23 02:12 PM
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Humble bragging itt
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:41 PM
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It's pretty true but many people who say it always leave out the fact that you have to work for it. You can't be broke, inexperienced, out of shape, and living with your parents and expecting to be seen as a stud in your 30's. You'll become a bigger clown among women than you would in your 20's if that's the case. But, if you've built yourself up, you would at the very least have more pull with women than you would in your youth.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 08:29 PM
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It's called "social proof" and it's been proven to have a strong Halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:02 PM
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Yet women are the ones who call men who they don't like "incels" even if it they aren't which subliminally reinforces OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:00 PM
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Crazy thing is the "critics" have nothing to say about Chantel from 90 Day Fiance doing the same exact thing but with the genders reversed.
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 09:16 PM
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Well, what you're saying isn't gendered in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:11 PM
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"Pretty" is subjective and men finder a broader range of women "pretty" than vice versa. And plenty of pretty women go through shit. Beyonce and Shakira both had their husbands cheat on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:27 PM
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I dunno. I know some Black men who cleaned up with women in Okinawa/Japan. I couldn't imagine a White dudes struggling in Japan at all.
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 02:59 PM
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Average women are treated fine. Average =/= ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:54 PM
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Pretty sure the lure is that foreign women generally have less high physical standards for Western men than Western women. Western women want men to pay up too. Might as well do the same thing with women who are okay with stable Western men who aren't Chads or Tyrones.
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 12:39 AM
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Well, that's pretty ironic since almost any man who openly bashes fat, old, ugly, slutty, etc. women irl will be scrutinized like crazy by other White knight men, never mind women. He will be called a misogynist and an incel right off the bat. Even dudes in the locker room don't speak as ill about women as people think. So, yes.....Women on major platforms like Twitter, Youtube, Tik Tok, IG, etc. bashing men with certain characteristics should matter if we're to take toxic male opinions(which ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:33 PM
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To be fair, I've heard some short women claim that they believe that having a tall bf will deter scary men away from assaulting or taking advantage of them. It's a rather simplistic reasoning but, mentally, I guess it makes some sense since tall men are more likely to intimidate other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:12 PM
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You know what I mean. Statistically, most people date/marry within their ethnic or racial group. Interracial dating as well as same sex dating has grown over the years but it still remains a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:42 PM
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I know that but a lot of women say that tall men make them feel more protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 05:34 PM
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Yet, when women express a preference towards tall men, the first thing they say is that they feel protected by them. Go figure....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:24 PM
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So I guess you should be considered a homophobic bigot if you only date the opposite sex, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:29 PM
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I'm sorry but this is a crazy argument. That's like calling heterosexual couples homophobic or transphobic even if they support the LGBTQ community. You can very much be a true egalitarian while preferring to date people within your group.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:16 PM
1

One of my exes was broke and didn't even have her own car. It was sweet for a hot moment but I wouldn't recommend it because the entitlement can sometimes get out of hand when you keep buying things for them and doing them favors. She would always ask me to give her rides to random places she felt like going to without giving me any gas money. Even when she got a minimum waged job, she refused to give me gas money for all the trips I took her on. She'd also throw random house parties and ask me …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:38 PM
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Plenty of women say toxic things about men regarding their dick size, height, face, money, and weight. Twitter used to be full of women saying that short men shouldn't exist and how broke men are useless. It's actually more common due to the fact that only straight men are held accountable for their toxic opinions while women get more leeway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:28 PM
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Can you clarify what you mean by this? To me, a person who's against racism is very much capable of preferring their own kind for dating. The two things aren't mutually exclusive at all. I'm not attracted to Indigenous looking Hispanic women but I treat them with the same respect and courtesy as everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:26 PM
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Average looking WM have to work hard for WW but not necessarily WOC. I saw a Tik Tok consisting of a young Dominican woman and an old Italian guy who was bald and geriatric and they were talking about their relationship and plans to marry and a bunch of Latinas in the comments were congratulating her. If this old gross looking Italian dude could bag a young Latina like that, then you know the interracial world is an average White guy's oyster.
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 04:14 AM
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Such a weirdo who changes her narrative depending on her mood.
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 04:11 AM
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I can sort of see where OP is coming from. I see Mexican dudes where I live that are short, brown skinned, and dress sloppy but have no problems dating at all. It's just as much of a mental thing as a physical thing. Sometimes, your mentality can affect how you appear before others regardless if you're handsome, average, or ugly. Elliot Rodger himself was a solid 7 for instance. Also, Don Cheadle s pretty below average facially speaking but his charisma and talent makes people overlook his uglin…
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 09:33 PM
1

Depends on what you mean by "shit economy." India, Philippines, and Brazil are some of the fastest growing economies in the world. Japan, by contrast, has been in a recession for a very long time and it's economy is currently stagnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:29 PM
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Plenty of White dudes pump and dump non White women so I'm not sure how this counters my point. White men intermarry more than White women in North America. And there's more White dudes getting play in Asia and Latin America than White women.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 07:26 PM
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30's? Nah. But it depends on the demographic. Black, Asian, and Southern European women can look amazing in their 30's even if they looked better in their 20's. Anglo descent women, however, will often hit that proverbial wall though especially after kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:53 PM
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For real. Dude is aging like win. She's capping.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:51 PM
1

Eh...I dunno about that. I've met many cougars and MILF's who fucked with younger guys. I was even one of those younger guys back in the day. I used to be FWB with a 37 year old divorced mom when I was 21 in college. That being said, older women and younger men generally do NOT desire each other for actual LTR's. And that's what separates them from older men and younger women who generally see more value in having an actual relationship as opposed to just being fuck buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:45 PM
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Yes. Where I live that's the case but, on a national scale, White men have a higher interracial marriage rate than White women in the U.S. That's not even touching on internationally.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 01:40 PM
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Just like with most other things, this can be summed up with "It's the economy stupid."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:03 PM
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I think teens still generally date but the new generation isn't big on chivalry or being overly romantic like past generations of teens. I see teen couples at malls, movies, restaurants, and such basically act like "bros" chilling with each other more than a romantic couple. Gen Z is "too cool for school" to act like they're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:33 PM
1

white men are more race loyal than their women though There's zero proof of this, both currently and historically.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 12:03 PM
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No offense but it should be your father or at least your uncle, older brother, OG male mentor/friend, or grandfather that's supposed to put you onto the game, not your mother. Mothers can help a bit sometimes but they shouldn't be the primary source for dating advice.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 06:54 PM
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Black men outnumber Asian men in the country and there's way more Black male celebs for the tabloids than Asian male celebs. In other words, it's simply a numbers game and the fact that not many Asians in America get into the arts or sports due to their upbringing.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:50 PM
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Granted, Jon is technically Hapa but this was the most successful family show on TLC before the Duggars blew up. And they're children look straight Asian too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-R0R9PZR8 I don't recall any racist backlash towards Jon and Kate Plus 8.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:47 PM
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I'm saying. OP must not be from America at all. The Cheerios commercial from last decade showing a BM/WW couple and their child sparked backlash. Also, I live in the South so I know much taboo and controversy is associated with the relationship despite it being the most common IR pairing where I live. I also see Indian/Desi guys with White girls and literally no one cares. For sure, AM/WW is less controversial and more accepted despite happening less frequently.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:44 PM
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Even worse. Her ex boyfriend who looks like a tall version of Rod Wave the rapper exposed her as a former thot who slept around before "turning her life around" just in time for her Youtube grift.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:19 AM
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A lot of Gen Z girls "swing both ways" from what I've seen too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:57 AM
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Your 2nd paragraph is very true and it's honestly one of the biggest disconnects within the RP itself. There's a lot of Black Pillers in denial who don't want to approach women at venues, work out, focus on making more money, gaining a stronger personality, etc. as the old RP encouraged men to do for results. Now, there's more "Woe is me" sentiment. And, don't get me wrong, there are biases against certain men that deserve to be called out but not to the extent of complacency. Complacency used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:28 AM
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Yup. Resources and maturity matter which is usually what gives 30 something guys a competitive advantage but you still can't be broke, unattractive, and inexperienced/celibate. Not every guy is going to be in their prime in their 30's and that has to be reiterated to clear up confusion. Hell, being a late bloomer in your 30's damn near defeats the whole purpose of a young girl going after an older guy. It's usually assumed that 30 something men have more sexual experience and are better in bed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:19 AM
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Pretty sure Asian dudes do better than people think, especially with biases against them dwindling. As long as he doesn't look like William Hung, he won't get penalized that much.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 02:34 AM
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Not true. Only a certain niche of women are like that. On a general level, White men have the most universal appeal of all races of men. That doesn't mean other men can't eat but it's true. Also, a White woman dating a Black man isn't automatically a "BBC fetishist." That's a big misconception that people love to project. If a Black or other minority man is top tier, White women will make exceptions for them in dating as opposed to flat out preferring them.
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 09:24 PM
2

There was literally a compilation of tweets from women claiming short men shouldn't exist......
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 01:24 AM
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Sounds like a niche thing cause I never heard of that. Granted, I'm about to turn 31 soon so maybe I'm not the target demographic. Short dudes have a whole smear campaign against them not only attraction wise but also personality wise with the belief that they have a "Napoleon Complex." That presents a whole new challenge for them in the dating world compared to some corny memes online.
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 12:23 AM
1

???
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 12:20 AM
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Nope. Height is a bigger deterrent and it's more socially acceptable to mock short men than WOC.
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 11:28 PM
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Exactly. Also, I noticed that the majority of BW in IR relationships are dark skinned. Minority femcels really exaggerate how much their race or skin tone hinders their dating life. Plenty of dark skinned women have no problems attracting men. Weight affects women more than skin tone imho.
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 11:24 PM
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Pretty boys always had their share of fans though. It's not a new concept in the slightest. From the Beatles to Prince to NSYNC to Justin Bieber, there's never been a time where pretty boys didn't have their share of fans among young girls. It's just that masculine/rugged men are more desired among adult women for LTR's and starting families.
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 06:52 PM
2

Lupita Nyongo
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 06:49 PM
2

On social media, only women and arrogant tall men who simp for those shallow women shit on short men constantly. It's definitely not something that the average guy even cares about. My gym trainer is 5'5 and gets respect from everybody. Literally no one in the gym ever cares about or brings up his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:13 AM
2

You mean like Hannah Gadsby minus the sexual orientation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:51 AM
1

I see a lot of young Black men under 30 are rocking dreadlocks these days so maybe Chief Keef could represent an "average looking Black guy" in 2023.
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 12:48 AM
1

Roids aren't even a factor. Most high school/college athletes aren't built like bodybuilders at all nor use roids. Most have a casually fit/muscular physique which many women find attractive. By and large, I'm pretty sure most athletes who are tall and in shape are cleaning up with women more than pretty boys on average. That's not to say pretty boys don't clean up either but it's not on the same level especially for non-famous pretty boys. Also, the pretty boy would need some type of aesthetic …
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 09:15 PM
1

Maybe it's a Gen Z thing but, as a 30 year old who played football back in high school, athletes would clean up more than anyone else with young girls. Pretty boys(esp. emos who were more popular back then) had their niche of groupies and lovers for sure but not as much as dudes who were rugged, tall, and/or had a strong build with their abs and arms. The dude in the pic is both wrong and right. A mid/ugly looking muscular guy won't draw more women than a slender, handsome guy. But women after t…
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 08:09 PM
2

Black men over Latinos? Latino men notoriously put Blonde hair and Nordic features on a pedestal even if they wound up with a Brown skinned Latina partner. I live in North Carolina and have noticed more Mexican men staring down and ogling random White women than Black men easily.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:10 AM
1

aren’t some African American celebs seen as sex symbols despite having mid faces as well? Not to the same extent.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:05 AM
1

Yet there's more WOC(any race) adulating White men for IR relationships than vice versa on Tik Tok and other social media platforms. Darker skinned girls aren't innocent themselves. They don't get Stacy privileges but more of them are pushing for IR dating than you think.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 12:52 AM
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The truth is somewhere in the middle. White men have the most universal appeal to women as a collective. But a number of White dudes struggle individually. The very fact that White male celebs with mediocre faces like Adam Driver and Pete Davidson are deemed sex symbols to women is proof of that. There's no way a famous minority man with a mid face would be held up as a sex symbol like them lol. But a good looking, tall, and charismatic minority man will do better than a White man who's bland, s…
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 12:45 AM
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Speaking as someone who's actually traveled to Colombia, I can assure you that this is generally cap. Colombians might have a slightly more extroverted culture than the U.S. but, by and large, men still do most of the approaching and pursuing there. If you're a good dancer and/or good looking yourself, you might get approached by some women in certain outings but, on a day-to-day basis, hot Colombian women are not approaching men like that. Even gringos with money still have to approach Colombia…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:26 PM
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Not to sound racist but I always felt that the wall as a concept is a very Anglo-Saxon centric concept. Black, Asian, and even Southern European White women(Greek, Portuguese, Sicilian) can look bomb af well past their 40's. Obviously, they all looked at their best in their 20's but their primes last longer than WASP/Germanic women. I have an aunt in her early 50's with a thicc body and smooth skin with all that Shea Butter and she gets hit on by younger dudes pretty frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:48 PM
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Also, unattractive women are more likely to show interest due to the rarity of them being a man's top choice or even getting hit on. Attractive women don't need game or to hit on men because men cater to them automatically. There's a good chance that, if unattractive women are hitting on you, that you can also appeal to attractive women but attractive women feel far less obligated to make the first move or initiate anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:45 PM
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Yup. I've gotten flirted on by Indigenous looking Hispanic women over the age of 30 and I have literally zero attraction to them but it feels nice to know that I appeal to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:42 PM
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Eh....it's a bit less binary than that. Women in general take into account maturity, status, and resources when it comes to attraction and not just sheer looks alone. That's what gives men in their 30's(not necessarily old geysers) more leverage over men under 30. A man simply having his own car and place and making more than minimum wage will turn many young women on because they're less exposed to men being that position in their own age group. Of course, the 30 something man in question can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:14 PM
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Men get criticized all the time, told that we "aren't real men anymore", and told that the "bar is in hell" for us all the time though. So, I don't know why people are pointing out both genders as if both genders are getting scrutinized on the same basis. The Manosphere is literally the only "safe space" for men to criticize modern women and the mainstream society writes them off as hateful misogynists and incels who want to take away women's rights. Unless a man is preaching "Man bad. Woman goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:45 AM
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The only men who openly criticize women in that way are already deemed hateful misogynists by today's feminist society. Jordan Peterson can't even get away with his rather milquetoast opinions on modern dating without have a whole smear campaign against him. The only men "allowed" to give takes on dating and modern women are simps like Steve Harvey and Dr. Phil who tell women what they want to hear while putting all the blame and onus on men. If you can name me at least 3 mainstream men who open…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:23 PM
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Yes they do in today's age. Also, when I say "decent" I'm also referring to the physical side of things. I know a bunch of single moms who get with men who are above 6's in looks and have steady jobs. Times have changed. There's never been an easier time for single moms to find dates with non-broke or non-ugly men than today. The bar is in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:18 PM
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It's still an option for average looking women. Average looking men don't have the luxury of bringing absolutely nothing to the table but a dick and getting a relationship. Average looking women like the one in the video do. Which means that the bar is in hell for women because modern men and feminists aren't even setting the bar high for women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:14 PM
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How is she an outlier? She's an average looking woman who probably doesn't bring much to the table. With effort, most average looking women can find a simp or sugar daddy who will overlook their faults and accept them for a relationship. Even pertaining to your last point, for every man who gets accepted in spite of abuse and cheating in a relationship, there's men who overlook toxicity and red flags among women just to keep a relationship together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:12 PM
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Does not the very phrase "the bar is in hell" infer that the other gender's standards have been lowered? Not sure why I need to beat a dead horse with that point. When women say that "the bar is in hell" for men, they're referring to women having low standards for men, not men lowering the bar for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:09 PM
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Never said this at all. I said the PPD is one of the forums of Reddit where you get a lot of feminist opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:10 PM
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Yup. And the fact that you can't even point it out without being labeled the infamous "M" word shows how strong the conditioning is. People really think it's "misogynist" to point out flaws and bad trends with modern women while completely ignoring that modern men get criticized left, right, and sideways. Here's one of many examples of modern men getting criticized openly on a mainstream outlet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAgUHyXr7_Y Modern women claim that they want equality but get offend…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:08 PM
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Missed the point. She's a mediocre looking woman who still is able to have access to a man wining and dining her and giving her money. Obviously, the average women isn't a sugar baby. That was never implied at all. However, it remains an option even for mediocre or basic looking women. And that reinforces my point with why the bar is in hell for modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:06 PM
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Used to be but, these days, relationships aren't exactly "smooth sailing" either. Average young men who aren't rich or have top tier looks will have to work very hard to get a relationship due to rising standards among women. By contrast, basic looking women like the one in the video I posted still have plenty of options with simps, sugar daddies, and decent men. I know single moms who are still able to get decent men. This wasn't the case 20 years ago but, nowadays, the bar is in hell for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 01:00 PM
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They keep trying to force it. When all goes wrong, bring up an imaginary "women blaming" talking point that doesn't actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 12:54 PM
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I don't believe in censorship so I believe it should stay up. But the double standard is incredible. Even the feminist troll I'm debating atm shills for r/TwoXChromosomes despite the blatant misandry and constant generalizations of men. They even accuse women who think "Not All Men" as being anti-woman. I wish I can say I was joking. It's just funny how my post which is rather mild will somehow get misconstrued as "misogyny" while women can go around criticizing everything men do and claiming th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:37 AM
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Nope. More so society as a whole that's increasingly misandrist and treats women like innocent children who are capable on no wrongdoing. Average men are getting screwed over because of the modern West bending over backwards to appease modern feminists while still vilifying men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:59 AM
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Why? It ironically points out the hypocrisy of women who claim to be liberal feminist types.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:58 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:57 AM
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Nothing is wrong with them at all. I was pointing out the irony and liberal/"woke" feminist women sounding like that towards men but switching up their tone with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:56 AM
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Even then, a bland looking incel can easily snag a poor woman or hooker from Latin America, Eastern Europe, and Africa. There's no shortage of sex tourism in Colombia, DR, Ukraine, and Kenya involving geriatric old men with ER. That's why I said men choosing Southeast Asia is primarily driven by attraction.
/r/AllPillDebate02/04/23 09:27 PM
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That's cap. A bland looking White man could easily score in Latin America, Europe, and Africa if he really wanted to. Southeast Asia is driven primarily by attraction.
/r/AllPillDebate02/04/23 05:49 PM
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enough of them exists Not really. Most Black men stick with Black women and date/marry out with White/Hispanic women. There's no real proof that Black men are going after Asian women like that. Even with the Passport Bro stuff, way more men go to Latin America(Brazil, DR, Mexico, Colombia, etc.) and Europe for women than Southeast Asia. Also, it was an Asian woman on social media(Lily Petals) who's been pushing for Blasian couples online....not a Black man. Even on Reddit, there's Asian women wh…
/r/AllPillDebate02/04/23 12:23 PM
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Why do people act like this is one-sided though? It almost seems like certain White and Asian dudes feel this weird need to "humble" Black men when it comes to Asian women when most of us don't even go after them. I grew up in a majority Black community in the South and I literally never heard a Black man rave about Asian women in all my 30 years of living. Literally not once. For every Asian woman who finds Black men unattractive, there's damn near an equal amount of Black men who are indiffere…
/r/AllPillDebate02/04/23 12:36 AM
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Cautionary tale? I'm sure the average dateless/sexless young man would much rather have Pete's dating life than their owns.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:32 PM
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Lol...you can't be serious. We're talking about regular relationships and hookups not Weinstein or R Kelly. Young women reject and ignore guys all the time based on their own preference. Why would they need to be manipulated" to accept an older partner? Nobody's stopping young women from rejecting older guys. Sounds like you're stripping young women of their own independence which sounds oddly anti-feminist in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:12 AM
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If the woman accepts it, then it's not "taking advantage" period. They made the decision to date the man on their own accord. Nobody's stopping them from rejecting the said men like women reject men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:49 PM
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I thought Korean dudes were all the rave in Japan these days. That's what a lot of Asian subs on here say anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:37 PM
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There's a lot of Dominican women in NYC though who are sexy and don't have too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:36 PM
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In comparison to men, easily. Women under the age of 30 who can't get dates/sex remind me of NBA players who sign multi million dollar contracts but still go broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:34 PM
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No. It matters because the younger women that older men pursue tend to still be voluptuous and have a sexy look as opposed to looking like petite little girls with neotenous features. I've never seen a man over the age of 25 rave about Zendaya's looks in my life for this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 11:31 PM
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Yeah. It's the same virtue signaling that occurred with Billie Eilish's new boyfriend. Younger women have had a thing for non-geriatric older men since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:51 PM
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Tbh, 18-22 year old women look best when they try to go for a grown, sexy type look as opposed to a neotenous look.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:49 PM
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Go to West Virginia.
/r/AllPillDebate21/03/23 07:52 PM
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Wasn't referring to you in particular. I'm saying, in general, women who generalize *insert non-conventionally attractive* men as being *insert negative stereotype*, it usually comes from a lack of experience and just women repeating Internet memes and stereotypes. It makes such bold claims hard to take seriously. It's also hilarious that women don't recognize it as prejudiced. It's similar to how it's okay to bash and generalize Asian/Indian guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 05:08 PM
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How is that unique to short men though? And how many short men have people actually met to draw these conclusions? I know a lot of short men in my city from Mexico and India. Literally none of them reinfornce the stereotypes of short men on Reddit. None of them. But my anecdote apparently shouldn't count while the women who dated maybe 2 short guys at most and had bad experiences with them should be taken at their word when they generalize short guys as acting the same way. Prejudice isn't cool …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:33 PM
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Exactly. Life is unfair and there's nothing wrong with admitting that. Taller men are given more leeway than shorter men. Rich men are given more leeway than poor men. Handsome men are given more leeway than ugly men. "Taken" men are given more leeway than single men. Extroverted men are given more leeway than introverted men. Non-virgin men are given more leeway than virgin men. And the list goes on. Perhaps women aren't even aware of these biases being reinfornced and how they shape their perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:24 PM
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Ironically, society in general does that. Not necessarily men alone. Pre-Selection is a thing. Men getting virgin shamed is a thing. Men getting called incels for not "getting women" is a thing. Men getting insulted by being told "that's why you don't have a girlfriend" is a thing. Women aren't shamed and mocked for being perpetually single or sexless like men so you wouldn't understand. Society treats a man's ability to get women as a litmus test for his own worth. Men who are "taken" or who at…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 03:39 PM
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Except I'm not short. I'm an average height(5'10) man with empathy for fellow men. You said it yourself. Everyone has insecurities so why should short men be held more accountable for it than anyone else. I can say Black women who act too "woke" are gross and a turn off to many men but I'd be considered a racist "racoon" for saying that unlike what you say about short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 02:17 PM
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This only applies to men though. I used to date a cute crazy girl with BPD and she stayed having male suitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:05 PM
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And how many "short" men have you even met? Lemme guess....you dated 2 guys who weren't tall and misbehaved then decided that's how they all act because of social media memes. I wouldn't even have an issue with this reasoning if women gave men the same leverage in making those judgment calls. When men claim that they prefer younger women over older women due to the latter carrying more baggage, we get gaslighted to hell and back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:01 PM
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Nah. This is like me saying that any Black woman who struggles with dating is ghetto or any ugly woman who struggles to date acts like a cunt. There are certain biases in dating in which acting a certain way will penalize someone in ways that others aren't subjected to. I used to play football with tall guys and plenty of them had insecurities or negative qualities but that didn't stop them from banging and dating tons of women. Short dudes basically have to act better than the average man just …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:57 PM
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Plenty of men with trash personalities get dates though. But these men have a high SMV. Short men have to act better than the average man just to not get gaslighted into being associated with "short man syndrome." It's similar to how I as a Black man have to overcompensate by acting better than the average White dude just to not be associated with ghetto people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:47 PM
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Honestly, if anyone should get a pass for "divesting" or geomaxxing, it's short men. Western women diss them like Drill rappers dissing opps. They might as well find a nice woman from the Philippines, Mexico, or Peru who will give them more of a shot without all the disrespect and gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:40 PM

She's a Blindian femcel breh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:32 AM
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It's just Afro-American influence on popular culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:43 PM
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Maybe you should travel to Argentina. Plenty of tall Hispanic guys down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:41 PM
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Not really. LipstickAlley thinks Pete Davidson is ugly as sin but that's obviously not the general consensus on Pete.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:40 PM
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Yup. A 42 year old man who makes 50k a year, is overweight, has yellow teeth, and is 5'7 is not going to be bagging women in their 20's at all. And there's more 40 something men in America who fit that profile than silver foxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:37 PM
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Again, "interesting" differs depending on the group or person. Some people would find me traveling to Latin America interesting while others would find it boring. Some people would find me having an old job where I worked 12 hours a day 6 days a week interesting while others would find it boring. Some people would find my interest in Japanese anime interesting while others would find it boring. Some people would find me being a former high school football player interesting while others would fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:31 AM
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Eh....maybe mentality wise but not physically. Years ago, I used to work at a bar and I would see my 20 something female coworkers get hit on by guys in their 40's and 50's all the time. Even studies show that many older men find women in their 20's to be the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:16 PM
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I have a 49 year old cousin who's 5'6, not that attractive, smells like Menthol cigarettes, works as a line cook but has a different girlfriend every other month because his humor and charisma is out of this world and people tell him that he reminds them of Katt Williams the comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:14 PM
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Fair point. I usually date the college educated ones who are going places in life. I dated a broke college girl once who was Bi-polar and it was a terrible experience both financially and emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:10 PM
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To be fair, there's a gang of men in their 40's who haven't accomplished jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:08 PM
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OP is bringing up attracting women in their 20's though. Few women in their 20's want men in their 40's unless they're getting the bag or the guy is exceptionally good looking. The 30's are a man's prime. Not 40's. 40's is just copium for the average guy but, if your looks or finances are in the top 10% of 40 something men, you can pull it off. Hell, even Kanye just married a 27 year old woman after getting cancelled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 11:04 PM
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Pretty sure that's not gender based. Also, "interesting" is in the eye of the beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:59 PM
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I'd say 30's are a man's true prime given that he doesn't fumble the bag. The 40's can work too if one works incredibly hard on themselves and their careers but, otherwise, I'd say that's a stretch. Plent of women in their 20's love men in their 30's though and, throw in the maturity and stability factor, and it's a wrap.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 10:58 PM
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B-But PPD women told me that any man over 30 who can't attract women are misogynistic creeps who will shoot up schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:09 PM
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True but it's relatively uncommon these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:05 PM
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Also if the girl prefers adult looking men over baby faced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:51 PM
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Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:46 PM
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Sounds like Communism. No me gusta.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:44 PM
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That's true but I think you're underestimating the appeal of older men to younger women. And, by older, I don't mean crusty elders with AARP cards. I'm 30 and simply having my own place, car, and making actual money turns on quite a few younger college aged women that I've been around. It helps that I'm a 7 in looks and look a bit younger than I am too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:30 PM
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That same accountant's going to get more interest on average than a broke college student living off ramen noodles though. "It ain't trickin if you got it."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:27 PM
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Roe vs Wade is a tool by politicians. Nobody has control over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:25 PM
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You said in your own response that pre-selection is real though. Saying that it's all about attitude and not relationship status literally disproves the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:35 AM
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I think you're underestimating how many single men have normal friendships with women and how many thirsty married men there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:55 AM
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It depends on the demographic though and I made a thread on that. I date both Black and White women. Some Black women I've dated actually thought it was a "red flag" that I had White gfs before and I had to basically prove that I wasn't settling for them. Pre-selection only works if the woman is either attractive or fits within the same social group as the other women making judgement calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:53 AM
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TRP was literally pioneered by a Black man though lol. I see your point. I think that's more of a Reddit thing than anything though. Reddit's demographic is mostly middle class White/Asian people from the U.S., Canada, and UK so I know that's going to affect a lot of views.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 04:19 PM
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Fair point. I was mostly focused on those who weren't so big.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:02 PM
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Incels? Yes. Red Pill guys? Nope. That's cap. Many manosphere guys are accepting of Black women and don't exclude Black women. You have to remember too that there's Black men in the manosphere who typically deal with Black and Hispanic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:20 PM
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To play Devil's advocate, most celebrity women touted as bombshells are over 30 too. In fact, aside from maybe Sabrina Carpenter, I can hardly think of women under 30 that are promoted as the "IT girl" in the media today. I just think that Hollywood in general has been on decline so the younger men deemed hot aren't going to get too many acting roles but they'll have a huge following on social media and Tik Tok. Heck, that Timothee guy has a huge following among young girls which shows that, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:12 PM
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No offense but the concept of "the wall" always seemed Euro-centric or Anglo-centric as a theory. I've seen way too many Black women in their late 30's to even early 50's who seemed to bypass the wall. Of course, those who were drug addicts are exceptions but that's been my experience. I have older female cousins in their 40's who still rock tight jeans and have "Kardashian" esque bodies and can still get into relationships with semi-decent men. I swear....I could post Facebook/IG photos of them…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:57 PM
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Yeah. I'm 30(Black) and have had college and even high school girls approach me thinking I was in their age group. It gets annoying too and I always keep facial hair on me for this reason. On a side note, I also believe that the concept of "the wall" is Euro(or maybe just Anglo) centric for this reason cause I've seen Black women in their 40's have smooth skin and "thicc" bodies that would have even young men hollering.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 08:50 PM
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This is grossly exaggerated. Most Black men who date morbidly obesity White women are either fat themselves or broke af. Most Black men date/marry Black women across every class level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:52 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 08:29 PM
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I agree and that's why that's something I feel gets left out of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:16 PM
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Divorced people aren't the only group of single people. Plus, as I mentioned, it depends on the sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:22 AM
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Of course it depends on who the woman is as an individual. Which is basically all I'm saying. I'm saying that research based on certain sample sizes can't be used to make widespread definitive conclusions without factoring in subgroups of people. For instance, I doubt below average looking women who are single and constantly rejected are "happier" than well paid bachelors. On the flip side, I know that attractive girls who put off dating are happier than basement dwellers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:20 AM
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I'm saying that the research gets misconstrued to imply something that the researchers themselves likely didn't mean. I believe that any gap in happiness between the genders is arguably minimal and it's also dependent on the specific subgroup or demographic. The feminists who spread the news are implying that there's a wide gap in happiness between men and women who are single. I disagree with this and I clarified why this is only applicable to certain groups of single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:17 AM
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That's cool. Understand that I never implied that there weren't happy single women. I know that there's plenty. I'm talking about how modern women online have promoted the idea that there's a huge gap in happiness between single men and single women while literally comparing bottom of the barrel incels(to represent single men) to divorced moms or volcel pretty women. It ignores the nuance of both groups of singles. I know single men right now who are happier than my friends who had kids or got m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:08 AM
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Using an old Beyonce song to try to make a claim about "single ladies" in general not the winning argument you think it is. Way to miss the analogy.... To your first part of the claim, the report is coming with data based exclusively on people who are single not "taken". You state they are also single women who are mostly conventionally attractive. Where are you getting this information from? What were the criteria for 'conventionally attractive'? As for the claim that they are predominantly mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:02 AM
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Ahh..I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:51 AM
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Ahhh...makes sense. But I think those said people need to learn to separate the two just like they do with women. When women being single comes up, you hear more research about those that fit the "happy, independent woman" archetype in contrast to those who are miserable and feel undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:41 AM
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Interesting theory. I sort of disagree but I wouldn't rule this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:39 AM
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Funny how that hardly gets mentioned about men though. When the discourse of single men comes up, all of a sudden, people want to discuss incels, misogynists, unemployed losers, and socially awkward autists as if those are the majority of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:35 AM

No. I'm speaking more on socioeconomics than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:47 AM
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You know....there are technically areas full of yuppies or young professional guys. If these women truly have their money or job prospects in order, they could do their research and move to areas full of young professional men like Silicon Valley, DC, Manhattan, etc. The fact that a lot of women prefer to avoid that and go for older guys indicates off the bat that the older men have more value on average that might even go beyond maturity. Many people agree that the 30's is usually the prime for…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:57 PM
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For real. But watch PPD women cap and say that they never heard this echoed by young women before. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:53 PM
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The thing is: If a man is desirable in his 30's, that's generally going to transcend age. I'm 30, keep myself in excellent shape, speak articulately, etc. and impressing early 20's women is just too easy to me. I don't even have to flash my bank account or my possessions before them. I drive a 2010 Corolla and live a rather frugal life but I still attract plenty of women in their early 20's. Obviously, an ugly or fat/sloppy man in his 30's won't have as much success in that regard but there's pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:49 PM
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Perhaps but even the average 30 something man has more options than a 20 something man, regardless if he's a "fox" or not. Even on Reddit which is a predominantly male site, there's more threads from women fearing dating in their 30's than men. That's not a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 09:06 PM
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Well, that's a bit different and not particularly "mainstream."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:35 PM
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It also depends on where you live. In Southern states outside of some major cities like Atlanta, Miami, and Houston, you better pray that you become a "fox" past the age of 30 who can pull young girls or have a good career or else you'll be stuck with 30+ year old single moms, divorced moms, or obese/chubby women as "options." Age gap relationships work best in larger cosmopolitan cities like NYC, LA, London, DC, Chicago, etc. You have more dating options, better paying jobs, and less people in …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 05:24 AM
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Underrated comment. I'm 30 and Black and a lot of people think I'm younger than I'm actually am. I'm not a "pretty boy" either. I work a blue collar job and always keep a 5 O'Clock or thin beard on my face. I just have good features and smooth skin that doesn't make me see "old" to younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:57 AM
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LA is probably better especially in the 626.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:21 AM
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No cap. A Filipina actually clapped back at a racist Tik Tok video condemning Passport Bros and calling Filipinas gold digging whores basically. And the Filipina got gaslighted simply for responding back to those stereotypes and defending those guys as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:17 AM
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American media is not giving people "bbc" fetish bro. Lol. A lot of black coverage overseas is generally negative or rooted in caricatures of gangsters, hardcore rappers, comic relief, etc. People overseas themselves will tell you that and they get relieved when they encounter Black American men who don't reinforce those stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:51 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03kNQNclGY
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:34 AM
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Nah. Lower class immigrants, Bubbas in the trailer parks, and Pookies and Ray Rays in the hood will still date and have kids. Marriage might not increase with them but they're most certainly going to date women and have kids. Source: I'm from the South.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:29 AM
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This is mostly exaggerated though. Recent data shows that any height increase with Gen Z is pretty negligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:51 PM
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American women or maybe just the modern feminist types seem to want to portray men they deem unworthy/undesirable as these mustache twirling comic book villains with ulterior motives up their sleeves on how to oppress women instead of recognizing how the superficial dating market in the West can make foreign dating more alluring. Even if the foreign women "just want money" like many claim, I don't see how that's much different than modern women in the West. I mean...don't women in America compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:22 AM
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Exactly. American women clown men that they deem "unattractive" or "losers" left, right, sideways, and upside down. Yet when those same "losers" leave American women alone and go elsewhere, those same women suddenly start concern trolling over the dating/romantic lives of women overseas. Lol...it's just funny to see it play out. And the ones who complain about "Passport Bros" making a big deal about it completely ignore all the negative hate videos and comments about them and the women overseas.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:23 AM
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Stop the cap. Asian women fetishize White men more than vice versa. Many White dudes in North America and Europe go through their lives not giving a single damn about any Asian woman. Can't say the same thing vice versa, can we? I can't blame the minority of White dudes who go for Asian women to exercise their options with women who openly glorify White skin, colored eyes, and other Western/Euro traits. Don't hate the player. Hate the game. The average White dude is Stevie Wonder when it comes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:12 AM
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Is it any different than dealing with hordes of shallow American women who value certain men for superficial or transactional reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 04:08 AM
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By nature, we have to. A woman can look like Donald Trump in drag and have the work ethic of a bum on the street and still be appreciated by at least some group of men. Men who didn't win the genetic lottery don't have that option. They have to work hard on their social skills, face, body, clout, money, etc. just to have a chance to attract one woman in today's dating scene. Taking a chance with just one woman isn't feasible because that woman may not be compatible or mentally sane. That's why m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:48 PM
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WAP was one of the biggest songs of the 2020's......
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 06:44 PM
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Well, as a troll move, someone should start a "money positivity" movement for men who are jobless, broke, and living at home with their parents. And these "money positive" spokepersons will tell these lazy men that money and work isn't everything and that they just need to feel happy with themselves. I'm sure women will see nothing wrong with this movement at all. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:41 AM
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Both fat people and unemployed people affect society. We can't just stick our heads in the sand and pretend otherwise. I used that analogy because most women would be mortified at the idea of a "financial positivity" movement that told jobless men that money and work isn't everything. They'd rightfully point out that it's a sham. We don't need "positivity" movements. If specific people are dealing with body dysmorphia or bullying, they have the option to consult counselors, therapists, family me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:33 PM
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I don't need therapy. I also don't need "body positivity" since I'm literally the perfect BMI according to my doctor on top of having low blood pressure(in which case, diabetes runs in my family). I don't think holding fat people accountable is toxic or hate. When men can't hold down jobs or find good employment, everybody and their mother calls them losers and bums as a way to shame them into becoming responsible adults. Imagine there being a "financial positivity" movement that tried to make l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:18 PM
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This whole post reeks of projection but I'm just gonna pick some things apart. Okay great if that's how you feel men should lead body positivity for men. They're far more equipped to speak to their experience and needs than women are. It's why representation matters. I never said men needed a body positivity movement. I also said I support men counseling or helping out other men. I'm just pointing out how the initial body positivity movement spokepersons lied about extending the olive branch to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:52 PM
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u/toasterchild, here's more proof that women have completely gatekeeped the body positivity movement from men and practically everybody but fat/obese women. What more proof do you need that I'm not making this up? Anyways, to address this answer. I think it's incumbent on men to embrace and lead the male body positivity movement as women did for women if that's what men want. The expectation women are supposed to be responsible for making men feel better about themselves, rather than it coming f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:20 PM
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Lol...and I was just responding to u/toasterchild under my comment saying that he doesn't know where men get the idea that they're excluded from the body positivity movement. Well, u/toasterchild, here's your evidence. Body positivity is for fat women only. Everyone else isn't welcome at all. It feels so good to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:03 PM
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I personally don't know any people who think body acceptance shouldnt apply to men. There's women in this very thread saying that body positivity is a female-oriented movement and that men should create their own movement. It's so confusing and the fact that hypocrites like Lizzo and Tess Holiday have become the main "spokepersons" for the movement makes it even more confusing. The body positivity movement has done a terrible job separating the actual officials/leaders of the movement from the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:01 PM
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Except they do. Even overweight female expats have complained about being body shamed in Japan or finding it difficult to date locals because of their weight. Compared to coddling, shaming does a more efficient job at keeping people at a healthy weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:12 PM
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But only for women, amirite? Cause people clown fat, short, ugly, wrinkled, balding, etc. men left, right, and sideways and no one gives a flying fuck. Donald Trump got body shamed for his weight and even his hands. Not a single fuck was given. Drew Carrey got mocked for being fat all the time before losing weight. Not a single fuck was given(partly cause he played along with the joke.) Ben Shapiro gets called a short manlet all the time. Not a single fuck is given. We should stop calling oursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:08 PM
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I'm going to repeat my response here. "Or maybe it's the fact that nobody has sympathy for men who are fat, balding, wrinkled, short, ugly, etc. and, as men, we're expected to put up with it and live our lives. If we're supposedly an egalitarian society, then why do women need a movement to lie and comfort them about their obesity issue? Keep in mind, people clown fat men left, right, and sideways and fat men themselves generally dgaf. Drew Carrey used to be clowned for being fat all the time ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:03 PM
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Or maybe it's the fact that nobody has sympathy for men who are fat, balding, wrinkled, short, ugly, etc. and, as men, we're expected to put up with it and live our lives. If we're supposedly an egalitarian society, then why do women need a movement to lie and comfort them about their obesity issue. Keep in mind, people clown fat men left, right, and sideways and fat men themselves generally dgaf. Drew Carrey used to be clowned for being fat all the time even on his own show but guess what he di…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 04:03 PM
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Tell that to Japan: one of the biggest fat shaming countries on Earth but also one of the thinnest. It somehow worked for them. It also worked in a number of Asian and European countries with similar mindsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:56 PM
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Do women really go around calling men losers? Plenty of times both online and offline. Obviously, everyone's an individual and there's plenty who don't but it's definitely "a thing." Men get called or deemed losers in female dominated spaces for a variety of reasons. That seems more like a high school thing like how old are you? I'm 30. Ironically, high school is probably where it happens the least because kids are generally less status oriented than adults. Teenage girls are used to teenage boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:37 PM
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But who are women more likely to openly declare a loser? Who is more likely to be considered a "creep" by women? Who's more likely to receive positive reinforcement from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:11 PM
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But be honest. Who's more likely to be deemed a "loser" in the modern dating scene: A high n count man or a sexless man? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:40 AM
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You’re conflating “women’s intuition” (which hasn’t been said seriously for decades) and the idea that some people are fucked up in ways that are almost immediately evident to other people (which is true) Except I never alluded to the concept to begin with. I even put it in quotes out of irony. It's women who promote the idea of being able to naturally sense toxicity and insecurity in men without the said men actually saying or doing much to prove it. You should be telling this to women who perp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:46 AM
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That's actually a fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:13 PM
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Sounds like you're speaking more so from an evolutionary or historical standpoint. In the modern era, any type of "intuition" people claim to possess is just exercising their own sense of discernment. This is human nature and something everyone does but it says nothing about how accurate this discernment is. At my old job, I used to have certain perceptions of clients just based on their fashion sense, tone, body language, etc. only to discover that they would often be completely opposite from h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:51 PM
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If someone gives you a bad feeling, they give you a bad feeling. Have you never been around someone that just didn't feel "right" to you? There is nothing wrong with not giving someone a date or sex if you don't feel comfortable around them. I'm only responding to this because it's clear that you only read the title and didn't read my whole post. I clearly said in my lower paragraphs that there's nothing wrong with going by your gut feeling and judging a book by its cover. I'm just saying that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:10 PM
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Intuition is also known as a gut feeling. It's not specific to one gender. That's literally what I said. I'm not the one pushing the idea that women can telepathically sniff out a man's toxicity. It's women on social media that are pushing this notion. Not men. Allow me to turn this back on you: men can't blame women for picking bad guys when they advocate lying to, tricking; and deceiving women to get what they want. The average man doesn't do this. But it basically proves my point. Anyone can …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 04:53 PM
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I see where you're coming from but this is more so a critique of women on social media who suggest that they have this ability when judging men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 04:49 PM
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My point is being tall is an immutable trait that requires no effort whatsoever but many women have height preferences despite this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 10:39 PM
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The desirability of men over 6 ft tall among women disproves this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 08:55 PM
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That's true but it still ultimately depends on which group you're talking about. Having a fat, ogre looking wife from a trailer park isn't going to make attractive middle class women see you as a "catch." A man sleeping with a bunch of thots from the projects isn't going to make a top tier woman look in his direction. That's what people who cite the "Preselection" theory misunderstand: It only works with similar groups of people or people within the same circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 11:51 PM
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Exactly. And it's not even say.....dictators, rapists, gang members, deadbeat fathers, etc. that she wants to get rid of. She really said sexless men don't deserve to live. Haha. I love that women are exempt from being censored by the PC police like straight men because it wounds up biting them in the ass in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:24 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:04 PM
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I mean...is that any different than waiting to get chosen by American/European women who seek out tall guys but throw up the flag and decide to settle for a stable average/short guy? At least you get the benefit of more attention from local women. Besides, it's not even necessarily "beta bucks" when you find that Latinas/Southeast Asians are as infatuated with White skin as American/European women are with height. It's more like a tradeoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:21 AM
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Keep in mind that the average "buff" man is built more like a swimmer or soccer player than a bodybuilder. Bodybuilder types are rare af.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:30 AM
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That's why short American and European men should just invest in Latin American and Southeast Asia for dating/LTR's where they'll be more appreciated. It's a win-win situation for all parties. A short Blonde man can move to Peru and get attention he's never enjoyed in his whole life in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:27 AM
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Dude, I don't give a fuck about boring men. Autistic men. Antisocial men. Awkward men. Pathologically shy men. Genetic trash has no right to be in the dating world, and genetic trash should not and must not survive in the next generation. If it was up to me I would gather all of the basement dwellers, neckbeards, ugly fucks, short fucks, fat fucks, anti-social weirdos, social anxiety-riddled clowns, low self-esteem and inferiority complex bonzos, and I would get all of them inside shipping conta…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:23 AM
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Sounds like projection. I bet if a nerdy girl who looked like Amy Fowler from the Big Bang Theory started letting men in the sausagefest known as Silicon Valley know she was single, many of the high earning men there would be shouting Hallelujah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:16 AM
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Depends on the woman in all honesty. Thankfully, the South has many women who are cool with men working blue collar jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:44 PM
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You know what's funny? If this question was the same but in regards to men, certain women on here will be writing extensive lists of men that they consider low value losers or POS. Yet, when the question is flipped to women, all of the sudden it's "B-But nobody is low value or high value. That's just meanie talk." Ahh...gotta love faux egalitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:40 PM
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Yet men get called losers day in and day out for breathing the wrong way. Stoicism shouldn't just be forced unto one gender. We're an equality based society now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:34 PM
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I'm okay with this conclusion......as long as American women on here hold themselves to the same standard when comparing themselves to Japanese, Ethiopian, Ukrainian, and Colombian women. It's funny how women can put all this "psuedo science" to gloat about how much more attractive they are to their male counterparts but consider it "misogyny" to compete with foreign women based on the same criteria. I'm okay with "American women > American men" in looks(which is a somewhat dubious claim especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:16 PM
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I guess I should clarify that this wasn't merely compliments(which I'm totally fine with) but shit that almost got me fired from previous jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:11 PM
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Depends on the context my dude. I've gotten hit on by underaged girls and elderly women before and the ick factor was strong even though I was good at hiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:03 AM
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Uh....duh? That's literally one of the biggest perks of anonymous posting and social media to begin with. That doesn't make it a good thing necessarily but it comes with the territory so to speak. The average person irl is a coward who can't stand behind their own words unless it's online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:01 AM
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They might enjoy it but it doesn't equate to respect. There's men who spend tons of money on women and still get disrespected worse than dogshit by those same women because they're spineless simps who put women on a pedestal. And that's my point. Men who think putting women on a pedestal will make them a good catch end up getting disrespected more often than not. This whole thread is proof of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:51 AM
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That's why Chris Brown has more than 40 million female followers on Facebook right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:46 AM
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Yup. That's why it's so funny seeing Nice Guys tm and simps taking L's left and right despite believing that their doormat behavior and "Disney Prince" crap will actually make women respect them. Nobody respects a simp. A man needs to understand his own worth before he tries to seek validation from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:44 AM
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It's not that serious. I'm usually halfway shitposting halfway serious myself. I'm just pointing out that damn near anything below perfection is deemed "misogynistic" for men on here. Women will look at the shittest/most toxic women and claim that the majority of women aren't like that(which I agree with btw) but they'll take the lowest common denominator among men(abusers, rapists, serial killers) and claim that ANY man will become that if they aren't Blue Pilled. It could just be shitposting o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:00 PM
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Race also plays a role as well. I've seen plenty of Black and Asian men over the age of 40 age like wine and have smooth skin. Not saying older White guys can't possess that but it's less common. This isn't a diss either because White dudes in general are deemed the most desirable in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:52 PM
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It depends though. I grew up in the church and I've seen my share of reformed thots and single moms going there to look for a partner after they "messed up." There's puritans as well for sure though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:40 PM
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If a man said this, he'd be labelled an incel or a loser. Just sayin.......
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:34 PM
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Well, men get labelled "misogynists" for breathing and sneezing the wrong way and get held to a damn near impossible perfect standard on here. So, we expect the women here to hold themselves to that same impossible standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:32 PM
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Nice Guys tm are beta simps who deserve their failure. They put women on a pedestal and fell for the Disney princess crap and learned the hard way that they have to bring more to the table than do their female friends small favors to win them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:30 PM
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I mean...it's basically the same thing just with skin color supplanted for height and the genders reversed. For the record, I don't think either group should be censored for their jokes but I'm just pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:31 AM
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It was a "joke" Tik Tok where the guys thumbed down "Black girls" but started smiling and dancing when "White girls" came up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:51 AM
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r/notliketheothergirls
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:49 AM
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Would you say the same thing regarding this? https://www.tiktok.com/@terrancehill515/video/7159584268233084203?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&q=white%20girls%20black%20girls&t=1671245246377 After all, it's just a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:48 AM
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Only 15% of the U.S. population is over 6 ft tall. It's absolutely an advantage unless you live in rural Minnesota. I'm only 5'10 and have been described as "tall" before at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:44 AM
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As a man who's in the 7.5-8 range of looks, I can relate to this. When you factor in race into it, it becomes even more interesting. Attractive minorities tend to be less likely to be associated with their negative stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:24 AM
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Be careful though because I've seen this same exact logic get applied to race.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:15 AM
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Have you tried therapy or counseling?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:13 AM
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People say this on Reddit but, honestly in North Carolina, Indians are the main groups of Non-Black minorities I see dating White girls aside from Mexicans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:09 AM
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At least they have Lil Wayne to look up to. He's short, Black, and so drugged out that he might as well be autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 04:08 AM
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Nah. The only real issue MOC have is not being as desirable as White men. Other than that, being Black or any other non-White ethnicity is not a death sentence at all. Anybody saying otherwise has not clue what a death sentence truly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:23 AM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:26 AM
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Yup. There's a lot of Africans in Houston and Atlanta though from what I've heard. Not really in other Southern places though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:16 AM
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African immigrants also have more success and education per capita than White Americans though. That's because their sample size in the U.S. is limited. There's less than 2 million Africans in the U.S. compared to 40+ million AA's. Also, not all Africans have the same success rate. I think Somali immigrants have the highest poverty rate in America, even exceeding AA's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:58 PM
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Not really true. We barely ever think about them tbh. At least in North Carolina, that's the case. I'm pretty sure AA/African tension is more of a NY/DC sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:56 PM
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Well, that's good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:28 PM
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Things balancing out now counts as "punishment." Not sure if that was a Freudian slip on your part but that's very telling. And yaaaas queen. Almost no women complain about loneliness, feeling ugly/unattractive, not being able to get a bf/husband, being jealous over their married/taken friends, etc. Anyone who says otherwise is seeing pink elephants.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:10 PM
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That's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:50 AM
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More selective how? Sex drives? That's true but that's just one aspect of romance. I've seen enough women crying about never getting attention from men, never getting a relationship, never getting married, being judged by their looks(presumably by men), etc. to know that this disparity isn't as great as you think it is. Also, the disparity in desperation is strongest in the 18-25 age range where women generally have the best time getting dating options and men have it the worst. After the age of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:47 AM
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So how do so many young women find relationships and marriages anyway? Do they rub a magic lamp and ask a genie to give them a partner? Do they battle it out for the allegedly rare 20 something dudes that have their lives in order? I could screenshot my Facebook/IG page and show you 20 something women in relationships with guys who aren't bums. Explain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:56 AM
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Anytime women here claim "men want women so bad compared to vice versa", it's implying that there's tons of desperation of our part. It's that simple. You can't imply that someone is needy for the opposite sex but still accuse them of having biases or "toxic" standards. That's like me taking a homeless guy to McDonald's and he looks at the menu and says "Man. This food is too unhealthy. Isn't there a Whole Foods around here?" Then accusing that same homeless man of being desperate to eat anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:53 AM
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Giving up is a strong word. Realistically, the average Joe will at least find one partner in their lifetime, particularly past the age of 30. I think what is more so happening is increasing romantic pessimism with young men. Dating isn't so much expected as much as it used to be. In my generation(I'm 30), it was simply expected that a regular guy would have at least one girlfriend before turning 20. Now, I see an increasing amount of young men who have so many other interests and hobbies that di…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:43 AM
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Depends on their location or the crowd they hang out with. There's too many women under 30 in relationships and marriages to outweigh your daughters' dating mishaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:32 AM
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The women on PPD consider arranged relationships to be misogynist and oppressive to women so you're not going to get a warm reception OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:29 AM
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Okay sure. But I NEVER want to see men get blamed for "pretty privilege", fatphobia, colorism, racism, transphobia, lookism, ageism, slut shaming, etc. ever again since that directly contradicts the claim women on PPD love to make about men being desperate dogs who will date an ugly crackhead because we're oh so desperate for women more than vice versa. Ya'll love to tout this belief until it directly contradicts your other claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:27 AM
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The hilarious part is that these same posters will condescendingly say "You need to stop living online and get out in the real world" when the "real world" is full of flawed people getting into relationships and marriages or people hooking up for entirely superficial reasons. How any "real world" person could think a man breathing the wrong way or holding opinions different from 4th wave feminists will make them "undateable" is a laughably sheltered take. It's like the Blue Pill on PPD are a coa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:48 AM
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Ugly working class men dumpster dive and do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:17 PM
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Everyone's definition of "undateable" is subjective to begin with which makes this a flawed question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 09:00 PM
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I have plenty of female friends. Could even show proof of that on my social media if I were stupid enough to expose myself on here. I also never met a self-identified incel in real life but I'm aware of their presence and many women on here fear them. Plenty of people do a great job at hiding their true opinions irl. Social media lets people speak their true thoughts without having to deal with public backlash. And there's no shortage of women bashing and hating on short dudes online at all. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 01:13 PM
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You still need to be able to at least pass the physical litmus test to showcase your personality though. If a woman is already of the opinion that a man isn't "tall enough" for her or her when she's wearing heels, the man is generally already going to be written off as a "friend at best." I'm not saying that's a bad thing either because I don't think anyone should settle but it's simply being grounded in reality. Women often want men who fit their preference to fit the personality test, not men …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:19 AM
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LipstickAlley which is a large and uncensored female forum(and one where women will often reveal their true thoughts without male interference) regularly worships tall men and hates on short guys all the time. Do you think that's just a coincidence or is the largest female forum on the Internet not representative enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:08 AM
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Height is literally the number one trait that young men are judged on, even exceeding face and physique. Of course it's going to get talked about. If modern women started obsessing over torsos the same way they do about height, you'll see numerous threads about torsos "out of nowhere."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 04:05 AM
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That's as bad as saying no one should ever date Black women because having a Black/half-Black child could put them in a vulnerable position. Btw, the "patriarchy" doesn't give a damn about a man's height compared to a man's output. Women dominate the vast majority of "heightist" remarks and content online. Tall men don't give a flying fuck and many have even condemned negative comments made about male height.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:57 AM
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"It's the hypergamy stupid" -Bill Clinton
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:52 AM
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Happiness is subjective. I've seen a lot of depressed people who were married or in relationships, including men and women. As a matter of fact, I've probably convinced more taken men not to commit suicide than single men. Of course, we know all about the proverbial frustrated incels and bitter cat ladies but there's happy and miserable people on both sides of the fence. It's largely an individual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 03:53 AM
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Thank you! People overrate confidence for this precise reason. I know dudes who are flat bums who have the charisma of Pat Sajak. Confidence doesn't mean shit if you don't have the success or competence to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:08 AM
2

Yeah....no. This is way too limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:31 PM
4

This. I dated a pretty girl back in 2018 who was clinically bipolar and had to take meds for it. It started off fine but eventually lead to so many mood swings that I had to leave for my own sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:29 PM
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Ironically, the very website the OP linked to bitches about men left, right, and sideways every day. I don't ever get mad at people for exercising their options, male or female. I just pay attention to certain trends then draw conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:18 AM
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Women aren't much different though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:07 AM
1

I was going to make a sarcastic remark until I realized that you lived in the UK. The DR is a hop skip jump away from the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:42 PM
0

There's always the Dominican Republic as a nearby option.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:30 PM
3

The RP isn't truly mainstream. It just gets talked about by some media heads for ratings but it's not truly mainstream. And that's perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:29 PM
1

For celebrities? Yes. For upper class women in general? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:04 AM
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It’s also not because of the “me too” movement. Nah. I saw the change first hand when #MeToo first gained ground. I saw dudes who were totally comfortable around other people suddenly desire to take the Mike Pence approach with women to avoid any type of allegation. I'm not saying that it's the only reason but it definitely had a major impact. At my former job, the manager who was a married man even kept his distance from female employees for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:50 PM
1

It depends tbh. I remember going to a bar in San Antonio and I saw a buff Black man saying "Heeeeey seniorita" to a Latina waitress and she actually found it charming. Apparently, he was a regular at the bar though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:47 PM
1

Never. But, then again, I'm in the 7-8 range of looks and am fairly picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:38 PM
1

You said "can be" in the title but made a definitive statement towards the end which makes this post a bit confusing. I agree that super fat women(like 350+ lb), ugly women, transwomen, and older(like 50+) women often have a difficult time getting actual partners as opposed to people who just want to run trains then flee. I get that. But the bar is low enough for the Devil himself to do the Tango for average/run of the mill women below the age of 50. I know single moms who literally juggle diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 07:29 PM
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There's way too many factors such as face, height, race, physique, social status, money, etc. to say that simply having a good attitude will make dating easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:37 PM
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The Internet in general is more polarizing due to anonymity. There's posts on LipstickAlley(a female forum) where they sometimes celebrate men getting murdered and sons being aborted. Mind you, this is the largest female forum on the Internet. Yet most women irl don't think this way. These discussions are generally polarizing due to anonymity. Most people here are harmless and safe. It's like a POC lurking 4Chan and seeing so many racist comments. Sure....anybody irl can be a racist but seeing r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:43 PM
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This is just blatantly false lol. Maybe in the 1960's being a good partner was sufficient enough but even women here will say that you have to bring more to the table than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:37 PM
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This doesn't apply to average men at all. Even women on here say that average men need to raise their standards. Even if it is based on PPD, I don't know where the "White" part came from. White women literally get criticized more than Black women over here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:35 PM
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Yup. The number of young women who are openly commodifying relationships based on race, height, face, dick size, physique, money, social status, etc. is at an all time high and it's destroying the narrative that was pushed by the media for the longest time that men are more "naturally shallow" than women. Lowkey, it's actually a blessing in disguise that the PC types give women more free speech allowances in regards to this than men because it basically reinforces the hypergamy theory more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:31 PM
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The #MeToo movement killed off cold approaching more than dating apps ever did. During that era, I saw tons of men turn into Mike Pence 2.0 overnight due to fear of being labelled creeps, harassers, or dealing with allegations. Nothing was the same after that and COVID made things even worse. As for dating apps, they're okay. People have found dates and even long term partners on it. But the apps made women more open about their preferences and requirements which has made an increasing number of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:54 PM
3

Can anybody even define what "casual sex" even is anymore? Is dating someone you're not married to and having sex with them considered "casual sex" or would that be "casual dating?" Is "casual sex" exclusively ONS and flings?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 02:28 PM
2

Lots of demand for virgin or non-slutty women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:41 PM
2

Have you tried dating in a church setting?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:09 PM
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Yup. It gets overlooked how judgmental women are of other women. I hear the religious women in my family gossiping about other women's relationships, sex lives, how they dress, how they talk, drama, etc. all the time. My mom will call me up sometimes literally telling me how skanky and slutty certain women on Facebook look and how they shouldn't be dating/marrying so and so man and I'll be so disinterested that I quickly change the subject lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:59 PM
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i'd say white girls like black men a lot more than black girls like white men, which contradicts the ''jbw'' thing often said there That's kinda changing with the TikTok generation though. Hella young Black girls are looking for a "White king" these days lol, albeit it's still considerably more common to see BM/WW couples in the public. as for asian, depends on the kind of asian, korean above +5/10 smv has pretty high smv nowadays, south asians admittely have less smv but it can be overcame. Int…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:50 PM
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Nah. I disagree. I'm 5'10, fit, and in the 7-8 range of looks and I get described as "handsome" quite often. I also dated girls(Black and White) in the same range as me. The funny thing is I'm very self-depreciating when it comes to my own looks(always have been) but I still get complimented sometimes. I always get asked why I'm not married yet or I'm usually assumed to be married. I'm also Black and a fellow POC too OP. It's actually not too hard to be above average looking as a man even if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:33 PM
1

Why would I single out one person in red pill?!? Because this whole topic is about all RP content creators being toxic. Kevin Samuels is Red Pill and has a decent following. That's why I asked you to name me things he said that are "toxic" for relationships. These personalities are grifters. You know one you know them all, they feed on a subset of mens internalized mysogyny, insecurities and hurt feelings any man who can fall in that hole isn’t going to hide his indoctrination well. Except that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:31 PM
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Here's the thing though. There is no uniform Red Pill. If someone is listening to Kevin Samuels or Jordan Peterson who are radically different from someone like Andrew Tate, they're still technically listening to the RP or "manosphere." Very few men who follow RP content listen to every single type of person in the platform. And there's tons of disagreements within it. That's why I specifically asked you to name me things Kevin Samuels said that's terrible advice for relationships because he had…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 10:09 PM
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Name me 5 things Kevin Samuels said that was detrimental for relationships. And use proof and actual quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:34 PM
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Depends on the content. Anecdotally, every other man I knew irl who followed Kevin Samuel's content was a stable man who was either married or monogamous. Kevin's content differed greatly from the likes of F&F to begin with though. There's more than 1 "Red Pill" but, overall, the whole movement is mainly concentrated online and isn't truly mainstream. Also, watching something online doesn't automatically make you a follower. I watch plenty of stuff online that I disagree with or only watch for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:34 PM
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Right about what? That we're simultaneously oppressors, losers, incels, cheaters, abusers, simps, rapists, shut-ins, all at the same time? Nope. I don't think that lowly of men. I don't think lowly of most women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 05:14 PM
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Here's the thing. Unless a man is 8 or above, he won't get "groupies." It just won't happen. However, it's perfectly possible to date women within or even out of your league on an individual basis. You just need to put yourself in different venues and try to connect. Don't try to be Chad or Tyrone. If you're not an 8, it just won't happen. But put yourself out there and you'll still be able to date women who aren't ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 09:01 PM
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Women value height over face when it comes to looks(See: The Pete Davidson Effect) and height never fades. I agree with your confidence point though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:40 AM
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True but you have to be really top tier to pull that off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:25 AM
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You're both right and wrong at the same time. On one hand, women will give tons of leeway to men who they deem high status or attractive while average men are held to higher standards by comparison. On the other hand, status and looks varies greatly depending on your group. Every Black woman I spoke to thinks Pete Davidson is ugly as sin yet he's quite popular with women of the Caucasian persuasion, hence his mainstream popularity. It plays out like that irl too. There's men who will be consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:27 AM
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Obvious troll is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:56 AM
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Username to post ratio.....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:24 AM
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Missed my question entirely but copium is a hell of a drug so nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:54 PM
1

So, by that same criteria, do American women stack up well against foreign women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:22 PM
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Subjected to so much of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:20 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 03:16 PM
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I heard that Southern European and French men were more accepting of "thick" women much like the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:45 AM
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Maan....I can't even enjoy regular bread from America anymore due to how sweet it is. And the lack of public transportation plays a role too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:19 AM
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Exactly. Fat women in America have no clue how easy they have it. America is one of the most fat accepting countries on Earth. In South Korea, fat women get shamed so much that many of them commit suicide due to the sky high standards of Korean men who openly deem them worthless and ugly(not saying I agree with that at all before I get gaslighted. I'm just telling you how it is over there.) A fat/obese broad in America will get humbled faster than Speedy Gonzalez if they spent a year trying to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:09 AM
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Honestly, the main places where fat women truly suffer in the dating market are Northern Europe and East Asia. America is one of the least fatphobic countries on Earth by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:58 AM
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Women shit on men they find unattractive all the time on social media. In fact, it's more common than vice versa these days due to being less taboo. You got broads saying that ugly men or short men should kill themselves on Twitter and TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:55 AM
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Yeah. It's almost a joke that American men get accused of fat shaming so much. American men have loose standards for women's weight compared to men in other countries. This is especially true in the South and Midwest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:18 AM
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It's all about societal respect though. I see Black men with White women or single White women with mixed kids in North Carolina quite often but nobody would say there's no racial tension in NC just off of that. That's just crazy to say about any Southern state besides maybe Virginia. Short men are way more disrespected than tall men regardless of how many short men are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:15 AM
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Ehhh.....Many parts of Europe and East Asia also emphasize height in men. And Asia/Europe is WAY WORSE than the U.S. when it comes to fat shaming. Matter of fact, the U.S. is arguably one of the least fat phobic countries on Earth. r/PlusSize even comments on how dating is easier for them in the U.S. than most other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:12 AM
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Easily. I have a tall uncle with dreadlocks who slept with so many women that it actually ruined his life and gave him an STD. Edit: My mistake. I read your comment too fast. I thought you were questioning his first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:10 AM
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Just World fallacy. An attractive man going through the motions will generally have way more options than an unattractive missionary or philanthropist Copium is a hell of a drug though so you can believe what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:09 AM
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It really depends on the type of confidence or what you're even confident in. I'm usually confident when it comes to most things but I also have a notable fear of heights that I've been working on. I also get insecure lifting in the gym in front of other people. It's perfectly fine to be mildly insecure in certain departments. Being confident in everything you do can actually be detrimental. I know "insecurity" is a dirty word on Reddit but there's nothing wrong with having some insecurity while…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:15 PM
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I agree. If a woman is obese, ugly, trans, psychotic, or immoral, she's just a friend to me. I'll never bash them like the immature kiddos do on social media though. I still talk with my bipolar ex on a friend level and I gave a fat girl a job before(via connections.) I just dislike the double standard of people calling men "toxic", "evil" and "imposing impossible beauty standards" for the mildest standards while women demanding triple 6's despite being unattractive, obese, single moms, short, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:38 PM
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RP never denied looks matter. It's literally mostly philosophy and taking advantage of things within your control while understanding how modern dating dynamics work. OP's post is misleading because no one ever said the RP automatically made you desirable to women. And the OG's who popularized the movement never made such claims either. It's halfway philosophy and halfway self-improvement. And since you know looks matter, you would also know that tons of simps, male feminists, and manginas get r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:08 AM
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It's one of those things where it's not all that beneficial but it's infinitely better than being a grown man with no n-count outside of Mormon/Muslim/Hindu circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:51 AM
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She's a FDS troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:49 AM
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I'd rather deal with boring over dysfunction every day of the week. I bet you're some UMC Lily White girl from the suburbs too. You're probably thinking of wannabe street guys and dudes who sell drugs on campus. In reality, convicts and felons who do terrible things to other people all the time have a higher reproduction rate than college educated men. Ya'll PPD women stay exposing just how sheltered and out of touch you are by assuming that "boring" men have more personality flaws than men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:42 AM
2

I have a drug addict cousin who's a deadbeat father and has 3 kids by 3 different women. And he stays hooking up with different women. He's addicted to pussy as much as he is drugs lol. I mean...sure. He's honestly the funniest person I ever met in my life and has God tier social skills but he's still a POS father and a womanizer. Ya'll gotta stop putting men who get relationships on a pedestal. Getting a relationship isn't that hard for a man(in contrast to casual sex) and it doesn't say much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:37 AM
1

Exactly. 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:34 AM
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Aka The Pete Davidson effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:31 AM
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The average man who gets zero attention from women is not RP because RP still isn't mainstream yet. RP is mostly about philosophy and application. Many men can claim RP just like many claim to be Christian without actually taking action. And plenty of RP men do very well with women or are married and have the evidence to back it up. All in all, this means nothing. I can post videos of thirsty simps or male feminists getting rejected by women left, right, and sideways as a counterargument. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:28 AM
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Have you ever lived in the South or the country? Tons of men do women favors all the time without expecting anything in return. Yankee men done fucked up the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:59 PM
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Ya'll have more smoke for nerds venting online then men who are literally destroying entire communities with their constant dysfunctional behavior. Very telling and confirms a number of things I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:50 AM
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Yup. In the future, marriage in developed countries will become like home ownership today. There was a time in America where damn near everyone was expected to own a home by the age of 25. Now, it's damn near 35. Marriage and home ownership alike will be considered a status symbol more than a necessity. And men of high status will have the best options for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:40 PM
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Speak for yourself. I still hang out with some of the guys I used to play football with and even helped 2 of them get jobs pre-COVID.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:22 PM
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Women do fuck hot men indeed but it's not an automatic thing. Women rarely throw themselves at men period, hot or otherwise. The main exceptions are men with clout(sports, entertainment, music, popularity, etc.) And even that's not always guaranteed. A hot man will certainly have an easier time attracting women but they still need to be social. They still need to go to social events, be able to hold a basic conversation, read cues, etc. Attractive men with no clout don't get hounded by random wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 06:13 PM
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Like I said, this requires nuance. Single men who've dated women in the past like myself have literally no reason to make being single part of our identity. It's just like....your current relationship status until someone else comes along. It's no big deal and doesn't really impact your life all that much. A single man who's never dated or slept with anyone before is in a totally different category. They're more likely to lack social skills and have less friends/social groups. But even that coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:28 AM
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I'm more so saying that many young women are open to dating men 5-15 years older than them not that it's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:55 AM
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It doesn't help that many young women with options can be absolute crude witches to men who aren't their preference. On social media you constantly see women bashing the life out of unattractive men. So, it's funny to see these women eventually settle down with the same type of men they were clowning and bashing and swore they'll never date. It's karma at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:32 AM
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Perhaps. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:19 PM
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It's no where near the same. There's way more posts and videos about women liking older men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:03 PM
1

Yes. Born and raised with roots in the South.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:56 PM
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I meant 5-15 yr old differences. What's funny is this isn't even "mansplaining." You can literally go on old threads from woman-oriented subs on Reddit where women get asked why they love older men or whether they prefer older men over younger men and you'll see that many women preferred older men back then without hesitation. It's only when the RP stated the same exact thing that some women started switching it up and acting like women aren't into men older than them anymore. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:29 PM
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Ironically, women are the reason for "men age like wine." I'm 30 and I get so much attention from women more than 5 years younger than me it's not even funny. That's not to say I can't attract women my own age because I can but it's easier to appeal to girls in the 20-25 range. I don't believe in "the wall" either so I have no reason to cap. There's just plenty of younger women who are into older men. Some women here intentionally misinterpret this as meaning that young women are into old geyser…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:45 PM
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Marjorie is older so that's not even fair. I've seen quite a few liberal men on Reddit claim that they would bang Tomi Lahren and Candace Owens despite disagreeing with them politically. At the end of the day, men like above average looking women regardless of politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:00 PM
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I mean...you do realize a large portion of single guys are not incels right? Plenty of men who are currently single have dated and had sex with women before. And plenty of men who are currently single have normal social lives where they hang out with tons of other people. I hate that the Black Pill is so prevalent here that people now conflate single men with being incels or neckbeards. Believe it or not, there's plenty of single guys who are completely normal. I'm currently single(by choice bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:52 PM
1

Yeah...no. Elliot Rodger was an anomaly. The average single man is most definitely looking for companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:45 PM
1

Random question. Is being precisely 6 inches considered average?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:44 PM
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It's often a self fulfilling prophesy where a number of men will become content with dry spells but the media will take the occasional lunatic and claim that sexless men are problematic. So, it's a two edged sword in which all men with dry spells are lumped together by the media and society because a crazy incel decided to shoot a place up and soaks up all the news. I hope that America becomes like Japan and "humanizes" men who get no sex. They're not any worse than men with high n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:12 AM
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The solution is for every single young man to get a passport to the Dominican Republic and Thailand where escorts and hookers will blow their brains out for a cheap price. I'm halfway serious halfway sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:07 PM
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Nothing wrong with that as long as your happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:03 PM
1

Get a passport my brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:01 PM
1

I'm 30 and definitely not a virgin. However, the men I know in their 20's that are usually are either highly religious or introverted. There's exceptions though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:00 PM
1

Pretty much agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 05:30 PM
4

Tory Lanez is ugly as sin and fucked Megan. Anything is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:49 PM
3

Yup. Simps fucked up the game. More men should study the Japanese/Koreans and prefer loneliness over entertaining obese women, single moms, and ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:41 PM
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The difference is that sexless men are now the current face of misogyny in the West. Sexless women might get mocked but nobody scapegoats sexless women for a societal issue as major as that. That's part of where the pressure comes from too. And it's one of the reasons why I often feel pressure to remind female posters on here that I've dated a number of women and am not even close to an incel(whom I loathe) on here when I say something they disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:37 PM
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If we're talking averages, I mean sure. But the OP specified "young and beautiful." In 2022, average men will appreciate a young and beautiful woman regardless of her race. If a woman who looked like this... [img]https://i.imgur.com/usKgmzG.jpg[/img] (Daphne Blunt) ...approached the average looking man, he'd shout Hallelujah! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:04 PM
1

The definition shifted after the Toronto mass shooting. Now, "incel" specifically refers to male virgins who are hatemongers or have sociopathic thoughts towards the opposite sex. They also self identify as incels. "Incel" hasn't simply meant it's OG definition in quite some time. Even women here will tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:53 PM
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I'm not denying the unattractive or fat ones struggle to get quality men. I'm talking about those who are young and hot. You think a BW who looks like this is going to lose out in the dating world? [img]https://i.imgur.com/usKgmzG.jpg[/img] (That's Daphne Blunt btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:49 PM
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Depends on the environment then. A place like Indiana would be hard for many minorities but I couldn't realistically see a slim, educated BW struggling to date in places like NYC, LA, Atlanta, Houston, DC and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:38 AM
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Where in the world do you live? Unless you're a teenager or a college kid, the average man most definitely wants a relationship. All the women I hooked up with were in actual relationships with me. And I know for a fact that I'm not in the minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:32 AM
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Yup. I dated a cute girl back in 2018 and she was bipolar and took meds for it. I generally enjoyed my company with her but her mood swings got too overbearing. One time, she was drunk and insisted on driving and I held her car keys and insisted I drive. She ended up screaming like a lunatic and biting my hand like a cannibal so I could release the key. I knew it was time to break up then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:25 AM
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Not the ones who are at a healthy weight and/or are classy. And, hell, even the fat ones in the hood stay getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:22 AM
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You really think Black and Asian women who are young and hot like the OP specified are struggling to get attention? Where in the world do you live? Kamala Harris is literally both and has a White husband lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:21 AM
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First off, there's many branches of RP just like there's many branches of feminism. The guy is likely a troll or sock puppet account but, assuming he's serious, obviously rape has nothing to do with a man's desirability and should be widely condemned. That said, there is some truth to the fact that many women aren't these impeccable judges of character like many think they are. There's a lot of young women, including educated ones, who have trash tastes in men or give men who are physically desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:19 AM
1

Then they're not incels. Incels are a specific subgroup with a certain set of beliefs. It's kinda like how you can believe that the government is too intrusive without being a libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:09 AM
1

I should've clarified that better. I mentioned that as a measure of past success when he was younger. I'm speaking on both men being single atm and trying to get back into the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:38 AM
1

There's a huge difference between "not getting laid" and identifying as an incel. Incels are a very specific community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:21 AM
2

Somewhat. I'm talking the hypothetical of 2 men with polar opposite flaws and seeing who will have more dating success on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:58 AM
3

Good answer and something I didn't even think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:54 AM
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So, are you really implying that the dating scene doesn't involve men from all walks of life. I never once said either man was "average" at all. I personally chose 2 types of flawed men with 1 redeeming quality to see who will have greater success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:53 AM
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Let's say both men try to ask women out at various places or set up OLD profiles and are transparent about their lives/flaws. Who do you think will get more dates on average even with their flaws made transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:50 AM
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No but the stereotypes are uncanny. In the 1940's, the Japanese men were portrayed and stereotyped as barbaric, evil, conniving, undesirable, short and overcompensating. There was even a term called "Yellow Peril" that showcased this. Obviously, dating is nothing like WW2. But modern women stereotype short men with similar stereotypes that the Japanese had in the 1940's in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:48 AM
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Short men are viewed by modern women the same way the Japanese were viewed by Americans in the 1940's. Honestly, Americans dudes under 5'8 should just get a passport and go to the Philippines and call it a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:55 AM
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Her exact words. Single women =something wrong with me/not chosen Single men= something wrong with women for not picking me. She never said a single thing about killing sprees. She talked about how single women apparently never blame men for their dating woes and how single men always do. Men of every single background are more likely to kill than women so that's a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:21 PM
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Sure, but if we know specific groups are commuting these atrocities it would make sense to see if we can do something to stop it. Literally the comment right before my response. My question is: If we somehow banned incel mass shooters, would that have stopped America from hitting a peak in mass shootings in recent years? I say America needs to find a way to prevent mass shootings in general regardless of the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:06 PM
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So you think incels are responsible for America reaching a peak of mass shootings in recent years?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:00 PM
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You basically made my case for me and don't even realize it. I'm saying we should just say that America has a mass shooting problem in general and trying to condense it to certain groups is a red herring. In one week in May of 2022, we had a White supremacist in Buffalo, a deranged teenager in Texas, and an old Taiwanese man in the OC commit mass shootings. There's no need to try to pin it on certain groups
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:52 PM
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Sure but compared to who? Why worry specifically about incels committing the occasional mass shooting as opposed to mass shootings in general? https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/07/04/us-mass-shootings-hover-near-record-breaking-levels/?sh=4f7860415f62 It's not like the U.S. is devoid of shootings/killings and incels are somehow overrepresented in this regard?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:30 PM
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I'm not ruling that out but I also know tons of people. Literally hundreds of people/followers on my IG/Facebook pages mainly within the same area. I put incels in the same category as the Alt Right in terms of presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:18 PM
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He(or she's) a troll bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:00 PM
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Lipstickalley which is full of single women bitches and complains about men's supposedly unfair standards on women all the time though. And tons of single men on Reddit and other places are extremely self-depreciating. Your post lacks nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:56 PM
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At least you acknowledged that it's not an "incel boogeyman" thing like everyone else does. In all my 30 years living in a major city in the South, I never met an actual incel in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:55 PM
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Because women value relationships more than they do sex. The sexual market is lopsided because of the supply(men) not meeting the demand(women). But women actually tend to want relationships and men have the option of leaving, pumping and dumping, breaking up, etc. so women don't really have much of an advantage when it comes to LTR's like they do in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:52 PM
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Nah. I think once you're past 5'9, you're good. I'm 5'10 and nobody ever thinks I'm short. Hell, I've been called tall quite a few times usually by little kids and old women. I attribute that to me having a long neck and a somewhat lanky body though. It's all about perception and location. In suburban Minnesota or the Netherlands, 5'11 ain't good enough. But in run of the mill city/suburban areas, it's sufficient. I don't do OLD though so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:48 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:33 PM
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Yes. We literally live in a time where a fit man who's 5'7 is presumed to be more undesirable than a 300+ obese woman with an awful face because women actually enforce their standards whereas men have too many simps and desperados who are addicted to sex and female approval like crack cocaine. I wish we could weed out the simps and men with low standards so that things would balance out but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:21 PM
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I agree that "sleeping around" is exaggerated for both sides. I notice people conflate having pre-marital sex with "sleeping around" when its not the same thing. All the sex I ever had was in relationships. I would talk and dance with random girls at parties but I wasn't fucking them. However, denying that women have it easier when it comes to dating and dating apps is just plain wrong. Like it's so far removed from reality that it comes across as contrarian. I will say that women lose their adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:18 PM
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If you're on the Left, this post is hilariously ironic considering how much Liberals pander to emotionally damaged and broke people for most of their causes. All that "we need to tax the 1%" rhetoric only to suck up to the very elites and corporations who are their donors. All that "we need to defund the police" rhetoric when they have top notch security. All that "we need to end racism" rhetoric while boiling down every single issue to race and supporting segregated safe spaces. Compared to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:10 PM
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Yup. As a Southerner, it's very clear that many people use UMA Northeast/West Coast demographics as their definition of "average." The South and Middle America gets treated as its own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 04:02 PM
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Best post itt. It's funny how women here make it seem like the average man looks like Peter Griffin but the average woman looks like Taylor Swift and that there's apparently no women who are broke, disgusting, uneducated, stupid, lazy, etc. Yeah....the average man isn't Prince Charming at all but the average American woman is so far from Cinderella it's not even funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:57 PM
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So......like almost every single subreddit in existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:54 PM
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Not too rare. I'm in the 7.5-8 range of looks and I've been classified as a "good looking" guy by women quite a few times even though I'm personally very self depreciating when it comes to my own looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:32 PM
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And Ethiopian, Japanese, Ukrainian, and Brazilian women are more attractive than American women by those same exact metrics. There will always be disparities in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:51 PM
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Exactly. You saw men not giving two fucks about how conventionally attractive Amber Heard was when her character was exposed. Ditto for Tomi Lahren who's also conventionally attractive but got criticized by men who calling most men trash on a livestream and doubling down on it. Men generally give attractive women less passes than women do attractive men. I think it boils down to women viewing attractive men as a "rare Pokemon" whereas men tend to see attractive women as more normative at least i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:45 PM
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Yet men worldwide celebrated Johnny Depp winning a case against a conventionally attractive abusive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:38 PM
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But I've heard women right on here claim that the latter are master manipulators. It's a lose-lose situation. I guess, ideally, men should have a balance of chivalry and rebellion in them. It's not easy to juggle both but any man who can pull it off has the edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:49 PM
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It's pretty complicated on both sides. On one hand, "nice guys tm" make it hard for women to befriend men who are less attractive than them because there's an underlying issue of the man having feelings or attraction for them that's not reciprocated. On the other hand, "nice guys" are usually more misguided than they these sneaky comic book supervillains that modern women often portray them to be. While some may snap or put on a charade, the average one is simply a man who falsely bought into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:35 PM
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Red Pill doesn't teach a uniform thing though. What Jordan Peterson, Kevin Samuels, Rollo Tomassi, and Andrew Tate teach are totally different. Same source(hypergamy, gender roles, dating trends, etc). Different methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:17 PM
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Game boosts your chances. You may get the results or you may not but at least you tried. A lot of dudes who complain about not having a gf or FWB don't even put themselves out there or start conversations with actual women due to social awkwardness or underestimating themselves. You don't have to be Barney Stinson at all. But knowing how to break the ice and hold a woman's attention in general can help you come a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:06 PM
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True. It's like they're determined to find anything wrong with a guy who doesn't come off toxic or negative. Shit gets tiresome after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:59 PM
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You're the real MVP for being a woman and admitting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:57 PM
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I mean...maybe. But couldn't the same thing be said about women? And what you said actually goes hand and hand with the bully mentality. People bully out of insecurity with themselves and taking it out on other people. You don't need rejection to have a bully mentality though. A lot of times, it's just vanity and prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 03:55 PM
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Those fat women still get in relationships though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 05:06 AM
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I disagree with the overall premise that body shaming comes after rejection. If anything, it's usually done by very vain and insecure people who want to pick on who they deem as easy targets. The majority of men who fat shame women don't want a fat woman nor have they gotten rejected by one. The majority of women who height shame men don't want a short man nor have they gotten rejected by one. It's basically just a bully mentality. I don't really see the link between rejection and body shaming. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 04:47 AM
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How is it different? Usually both forms come from insecurity and vanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:48 PM
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Yeah cause only men body shame.....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 07:00 PM
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To be fair, this can be applied to just about any broad claim made on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:53 AM
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On here and social media, it is widely said that average men have low standards. You need links?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:25 PM
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Seems like projection. I never said all women act the same. I'm clearly talking about those who make the accusation of average men being thirsty and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:49 PM
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Average men are who I'm specifying. And average men get accused of being desperate and thirsty all the time, especially on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:46 PM
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Femcel talk technically but I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:02 PM
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I agree but that wasn't the point. I'm talking about men being accused of it or blamed for it by various women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:14 PM
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I'm talking about endless videos made by the women themselves. Not conservative content. I'm not even that political. And, to your last point, I can go on Lipstickalley.com which has hundreds of thousands of members and post you thousands of threads hating on men and complaining about unfair beauty standards and rejection. Hell, I can even go on Reddit and find the same thing. I never implied that it was female specific. In fact, the usual stereotype or narrative especially on here is that men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:57 AM
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You see......I sort of see where you're coming from but check this out. I never in all of my 30 years living in a major Southern city met an incel. If it weren't for the Internet, I wouldn't even know who they are. But women complain about them on here a lot and there's proof that there's a radical niche of incels irl who actually live up to the serial killer stereotype. My point here? The SJW women may not be super prominent in real life depending on where you live but they have a strong voice …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:05 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:07 AM
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I think people consider men having a ONS as a "standard" but I always assumed a standard referred to dating and relationships. Hell, even women after a few drinks loosen their standards quite a bit, but men usually refer to dating and relationships when discussing women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:44 AM
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Yup. In the South, even White men get with fatties many times. And Black men....Sometimes I get embarrassed by the number of chubby chasers in our community. Thankfully, me and my circle only date fit women breaking the mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:05 AM
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I was strictly talking about men and I edited. 45 year old men generally have a broader range of options than 25 year old men. Hell, look at this entire sub: Filled with young men and 30+ women. That's not a coincidence at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:57 PM
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Comparatively speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:54 PM
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Maybe not physically but I bet you that the average 45 year old man has more dating struggles than the average 25 year old man. I'll bet money on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:30 PM
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For many men, though, 27 is the age when we start to actually look manly and mature which appeals to women more than looking boyish and feeble.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 05:29 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "casual sex." People often conflate it with pre-marital sex. All the sex I ever had was with someone I dated or was in a relationship with. I've never been fond of screwing strangers even back in my college partying days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:54 PM
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Women also value maturity though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:51 PM
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Not the OP but I had a high n count single mom who I went to high school with basically throw herself at me and try to get a date with me and I "friendzoned" her faster than lightning. I was respectful with it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:29 PM
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Well, there were people out of work in America in 2019 when he had record low unemployment........
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:55 AM
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Well, I personally don't believe in the "wall."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:22 AM
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But that's not really the argument though. The argument is that the 30's is usually a man's prime. It's usually the time where a man who isn't a broke neckbeard can have the most dating options he's ever had in his life. Aside from a few people, nobody ever said it was common for grandpas or middle aged men who aren't wealthy to bag young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:37 AM
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Put it this way....he has an STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:33 AM
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Especially given how popular Kpop is here rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:34 PM
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Oh okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:38 PM
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Grooming is important but men also look more mature and manly at 30 compared 17 year old kids which appeals to many women. I'm 30 and rock a clean stubble and have no issues attracting girls younger than me. Then again, they say "Black don't crack" and I'm often mistaken for a 23 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:45 PM
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/bcS3Wvw.gif[/img]
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:39 PM
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Beyonce was ahead of her time lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:33 PM
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How about women who switch their sexuality like a wardrobe? Lol...I have several women in my family who have done this. Two "former lesbians" in my fam are now married to men. It's the weirdest conundrum and I always wonder how other women(including actual lesbians) feel about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:31 PM
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Deeply religious women Bless your heart!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:25 PM
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I don't deal or associate with abusive men period. I'm talking actual verbal/physical abuse, not shitposting on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:23 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:19 PM
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Good Lord. You are a very unusual woman if you think this. Even looking back at my 17 year old self on the football team is cringe sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:17 PM
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My uncle is a waiter and blows a lot of the little money he makes on cigarettes and beer but still has an insanely high n count. Looks and being funny carry him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:15 PM
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There's a difference between "old" and "older." Young women complain about young men all the time and feel that men who are older than them bring more to the table. You can literally go on female dominated subs and forums and see this. That doesn't mean that they want Grandpa but many young women are open to dating men 5-10 years older than them. I say this from experience too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:13 PM
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Dating has literally never been easier for women than today. That includes 30 something women. Enjoy yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:10 PM
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It seems you think I'm suggesting nihilism but that's not the case. "Not giving a fuck" means not being a spineless coward who does more to please other people than himself. Nice guys tm are spineless betas who revolve their lives around female validation and desperately want life to be a Cinderella story in which their chivalry will be rewarded at the end. Then, they snap when reality sets in. Men who don't give a fuck don't get hung up over rejection. They don't keep trying to win over a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:23 PM
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No one period outside Ukraine knew about Zelensky prior to the war so this is disingenuous. Also, Trump did a lot of noteworthy things during his time in office.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:12 PM
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Incels are just lazy. I've seen them post their pics on Reddit: generally normal looking White kids with weird postures who don't want to put any work at all for dating or hooking up. Reminds me of those plain Janes on social media who whine about pretty privilege affecting them and they aren't even ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:41 AM
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Some women do have issues with male vulnerability. I remember there was a show on Oprah's TV channel I think where they interviewed a few Black men who dated interracially. And one of them started bawling and shedding tears during half of his interview. Women on social media destroyed this dude, clowning him for the way he cried and for being so sensitive over what seemed like a regular interview question. I get that women might be afraid of having to carry a man's baggage and that's understanda…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:38 AM
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There's a massive difference between women who have a high n count due to dating many men and women who have a high n count due to thotting it up. The former are just normal women and should never be lumped in with the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:32 AM
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I'm not the only one to observe that generosity, caring, thoughtfulness, kindness, and mercy are traits women select for and that the opposite of these are perceived badly. I think you're getting too caught up in thinking about the extremes. Men who put themselves and the things/people they care about first will always have a social advantage over guys who lack backbone and spend too much time trying to appeal to everybody with nothing to stand on their own. There is no "3rd guy" because it's al…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:25 AM
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Take the word "alpha" out of your head for a moment. I know that the word has gotten tainted over time. Men who are confident, determined, and dgaf about appeasing others will always be more naturally appealing to people than men who are insecure, whiny, and spineless. This is common knowledge. If Donald Trump acted like a "Nice Guy tm", he wouldn't never made it past 2015 in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:50 AM
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To be fair, Kanye is crazier than Pete and not as tall but he's been bagging all sorts of attractive women and supermodels after separating from Kim. He's dating a Brazilian model almost half his age right now even after getting "cancelled."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:19 AM
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It's a simplification of reality. But the key thing is that betas revolve their lives around pleasing others and craving social acceptance like a drug while being downtrodden when they don't receive it. Alphas are those who dgaf and live their lives ultimately trying to make themselves the priority while not letting other people deter them from their purpose. You dislike betas and for good reason. No one respects a man that's so selfless and insecure to the point of being a pathetic weakling or …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:16 AM
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I guess it's all relative. More women have been swooning over Zelensky(who skews short) than Donald Trump(who's tall.) There's a lot of factors that come into play. Height most definitely can save men with plain faces but there's still other variables that come into play. Even with the dude you posted, his face is plain but he's still fit, has a decent build, and proper grooming. These things matter just as much as height. A tall neckbeard with a beer belly who dresses like shit isn't going to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:11 PM
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I agree with this to a certain extent. I think more women would want Tom Holland over Kevin Durant though, albeit Kevin might have an easier time getting a high n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:00 PM
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Eh....I disagree only because "hot chick" is vague and subjective. Hot Latinas and Filipinas date average height men with average faces all the time. Hot Black women are lenient if you're charismatic and have swag. Hot White girls can be very picky on height but even that's not set in stone. When I temporarily lived in Manhattan with a bunch of friends, I went on a few dates with a woman named Malin who was from Sweden and she was almost my height(5'10) and was a pretty blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:57 PM
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You mean young, fit tall men, right? I can sort of see that. But once you starting getting to the big 3-0, you start seeing quite a lot of mid faced tall men who look plain and unremarkable. Tall men can be very attractive(no homo) but they tend to peak young.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:48 PM
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If you think highly successful or attractive men don't experience insecurity, I have a bridge to sell you...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:37 PM
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In other words, alpha males are the GOAT's while beta males are trash. Aka Red Pill 101. Terrific post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:32 PM
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It's true and untrue. Here's what really happens. I used to work a job where older, married women would openly describe me as handsome and intelligent. These women weren't even trying to hit on me since they were taken(but, then again,....nvm) but they seemed comfortable handing out these compliments to me like a brochure. But it's not always due to desire. Many times, young women who are above average looking already have men hollering at them left and right as well as beta orbiters, simps, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:37 AM
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Not really. Men are much more facial and body focused than height focused. A tall women with a good body shape and pretty face will get plenty of male attention just like a short woman. If anything, many men assume women taller than them desire a tall partner and would be pleasantly surprised if she doesn't care. Short height in women doesn't automatically make our dicks hard the same way tall height gets many women aroused on cue. It's pretty inconceivable from a male perspective but that just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:22 AM
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Disagree when it comes to men. In fact, the opposite is true. I remember when guys used to openly make fun of chubby girls or girls with ugly faces. Nowadays, that's rare due to woke/PC culture and men becoming more desperate than ever before. Hell, couples between White guys and Black girls are increasing and I remember a time when White dudes used to blatantly not want anything to do with Black girls and were kinda rude about it. But today's White dudes aren't really like that. They like Black…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:41 PM
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It goes beyond that. Women instinctually have more contempt for men they deem pathetic than men they fear. That's why the same women who claim that fake nice guys can't get women because of their toxic mindset will ignore that Chris Brown has over 50 million followers on Facebook and 80% of them are women according to Audience Insights data. That's because Chris Brown is successful, famous, tall, and handsome while the fake nice guy is generally unattractive, autistic, has zero clout, and broke …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:22 PM

The same thing you said can be said in adverse for those subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:01 PM
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Oh. I agree. I'm just saying that the current version drowns out the voices of old school feminists(which includes men like myself.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 05:59 PM

Uh oh....modern women are going to claim that you have "internalized misogyny."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:51 PM

You feel the same way about r/TwoXChromosomes and r/FemaleDatingStrategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:48 PM
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According to modern feminism, you have "internalized misogyny."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:46 PM

It does but the mistake is being to absolutist with it. There's 20 times more hate for short men than tall men amongst average women. There is no name for tall men like Donald Trump or Blueface the rapper acting like a POS but there is for short men("Napoleon Complex".) A short man has to be exceptional in some other capacity to be considered desirable to many women whether that'd be looks, body, money, clout, etc. Men who are tall don't need to put anywhere as much of an effort to get the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:41 PM

I can see that but most do engage in pre-marital sex with their boyfriends or lovers. I think people conflate casual sex with pre-marital sex too often on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:33 PM

r/TwoXChromosomes does the same exact thing to men though. There's like numerous threads on there criticizing #NotAllMen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:31 PM
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Even Lizzie Valesquez who was voted the world's ugliest woman managed to get 2 relationships according to this 2017 article. https://www.yahoo.com/news/lizzie-velasquez-continuing-look-love-161929808.html Velasquez talks about the two major relationships she’s been in so far, explaining it’s a question that she gets “often.” The first was with her college friend and eventual roommate, whom she nicknames Blake for privacy. “We were so incredibly close for so many years that still, a decade later,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:29 AM
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I remember one of my aunts went to a deli and some Middle Eastern immigrant who ran it openly hit on her and called her sexy with a thick accent. And she didn't even say anything back at all. I think some men can get away with it with natural charisma and perhaps a foreign accent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:21 PM
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Networking still matters now more than ever though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:17 PM
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I never judged Black women for their character or morality. I'm merely speaking on gender relations. Gender relations are terrible in the Black community and I'm not saying Black men don't contribute to it as well. Either way, it'd probably be best for both groups to go where they're truly respected and appreciated, even if that means Black people from other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:16 AM
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Nope. Girls will hook up with Pookie's and Ray Ray's but blame Carltons for their dating woes. The majority of Black men in 2022 are statistically childless but our out of wedlock growth is driven by a toxic subgroup of men who attract the most women. This is an AA specific issue though. Not an African or Afro-Latino one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 01:03 AM
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Yup. Tall and ugly is in style now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:48 PM
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Good. White and Black American women have so much contempt for their male counterparts. It's easier to divest with other types of women and let them fight over Chad and Tupac in a business suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:17 PM
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No. I'm saying that average men will have to get used to having limited options. The quality of the said options could vary because any man can get lucky. But average men will generally have limited options compared to rich men, tall men, and thugs. And men already date and have kids with below average women. There's no shortage of obese women, drug addicted women, and women with non-pretty faces with partners and kids. There's literally 2 shows on TLC called "My Big Fat Fabolous Life" and "My N…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 10:16 PM
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I agree that American women look better than American men on average. I literally said that from the get go lol. I was just saying that people often say that without using that same criteria when competing with other types of women. shitting on women or men from your own country usually means you're ugly yourself. Damn....I can't believe you would insult PPD women like that. I thought ya'll had a sisterhood going on. And, of course, I disagree with this. If women on here said that French, Jamaic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:53 PM
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Yup. In the near future(say 15-20 years), only the richest and poorest of men will be able to attract numerous women and have children. Average men will simply get lucky and settle for a woman based on being at the right place at the right time. Tall men, rich men, and thugs will control the dating market and average men will have to settle for women after they've had their pick of the litter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:01 PM
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I mean....as long as people are making their own decisions in life, it's all good. Chaste women are rarely stigmatized by men to begin with so you can't blame us. In fact, there was a study that showed that women preferred hookup culture more than men. At the end of the day, every woman is free to make her own decision. If a woman wants to be loose, only have sex with men she's dating, or reserve herself for marital sex is on her. And no one should police them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:23 PM
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Why do you keep bringing American men up? I never said American men looked better. I'm saying that American women should compare themselves to WOMEN from other countries as opposed to their male counterparts and measure themselves by that same criteria. Constantly competing with men over looks is weird and masculine af. And wtf is up with your "cuck" fetish? A Korean man dating an American woman is not "cucking." That's just a normal couple that happens to involve different races. The fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:18 PM
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I said they probably look better than the average American WOMAN using PPD women's own criteria. Funny how you missed that. And interracial dating is still a small percentage of all relationships and marriages in the U.S. so this "cucking" you speak of is insignificant as is the "BBC" stereotype. I'm sure Korean dudes can eat well but nobody's getting "cucked" in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 07:28 AM
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Point out a single point I made that has anything to do with "inceldom." You guys throw that word around way too often without backing it up. I even said that the majority of average men eventually end up in a LTR by getting lucky, finding the right one, or dropping their standards. "Inceldom" doesn't teach this at all. Quite the opposite actually. Teach us how 3 million more bw than men makes it gynocentric? I'm not sure what Black women have to do with anything I said since I mentioned "modern…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:54 AM
1

Minus the last one, this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:25 AM
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Yes. It's caused many modern women to have a 49er mentality where they'll be 4's but think they're 9's while demanding 10's. You got obese single moms going to female dating coaches like Kendra G demanding high value men and attractive men then getting upset when the coaches tell them that they're not at that level. Online dating has made the advantage of modern relationships very gynocentric. The endless options make women think that wealthy men, 6ft tall men, male models, and "Tupac in a busin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 03:22 AM
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I see your point. And you can check my post history and see that I never advocated for anything negative to happen to women at all. My role slash gimmick on here is more so tackling misandry and calling out double standards in dating which sometimes gets misconstrued for "bitterness"(even though I'm not at all) due to my bluntness. Ideally, everybody should be civil online and I'd personally report any guy advocating rape, violence, or anything along those lines. I'm more so saying that the corr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:58 AM
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Okay. So, now we're supposed to pretend that the Internet is a wonderful place full of rational discourse and positive opinions. The Internet more often than not is negative or thrives off of negativity and people blowing off steam. Matter of fact, I can post you 5 threads off the top from r/TwoXChromosomes where they literally talk about and even justify hating and distrusting all men. It's so common that a man spoke about it on r/CMV and had women explaining to him that they were just blowing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:29 AM
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Can we please stop pretending that our online personas have anything to do with real life? This is Reddit. More than half the people on here have made comments that they would never say in person because of the nature of anonymity. People on both sides express raw opinions on here. I can post stuff from FDS that sounds like a literal Nazi eugenicist wrote it but even I know those women don't go around saying this shit irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:45 PM
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Yup. It's very ironic. And look...I realize American men aren't all that as a whole but we don't really deny it either and a number of us are focused on self-improvement and lifting. But it's funny that many American women feel more comfortable competing with American men in the looks department but not women from overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:24 PM
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Yes. I fucked a girl who was racist against Black people before. It's a loooong story....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:15 PM
1

Lol... https://parade.com/1205853/mikebloom/nick-cannon-kids/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:11 PM
1

Nick Cannon and Pete Davidson are fucking half the women in America. "Hide yo kids. Hide yo wife!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:39 PM
1

Ironically, I think today's men seem to balance "cool" and "nerdy" qualities all the time. I mean....Comic Book movies are the new Westerns in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:38 PM
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In America, both sides generally look plain or mid. Neither are super attractive or truly ugly on average. I think American women like to gloat how much better they look because of the effort on makeup and such but, overall, American women generally look plain af outside of Manhattan, Miami, and Los Angeles where dimes are more plentiful. Men aren't the best looking but people exaggerate the unattractiveness of men here too. Also, Korean men look better than the average American woman(hell, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 08:09 PM
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It's becoming the new normal though. Average American and Scandinavian men are going to become like Japanese men in the next 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:14 AM
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Nah. I've seen the FDS IG Page and most of the followers are in the 5-7 range and some have relationships. Also, their standards are actually higher than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:11 AM
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Some actually took meds so it depends. But my point is that you can't lump all people with social anxiety or mental health issues together because of your limited encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:26 PM
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My initial response to you was very obviously sarcastic because you used an anecdote of meeting men who fell behind mental illness to justify shitty behavior to put all men with social anxiety into one box. I brought up an anecdote of women doing the same thing to see if you would feel the same way if the tables were turned and a man claimed to not care about women with social anxiety because of his limited encounters. You sound sensitive af. People on both sides of PPD can be shitty and general…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:55 PM
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If what I'm saying is true, I'm going to say it. Did I make excuses for men who use mental illness to be shitty people? Nope. All I did was point out that both genders do it and should be called out for it. Idgaf about men on PPD. Also, what do men on this subreddit even have to do with the subject at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:15 PM
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Then you should call out both sides who hide behind mental illness to act like shitty people. It's not male centric at all(in fact I've seen more women pull this off irl.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:05 PM
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Almost every woman I've met who claimed to struggle with depression acted like a total bitch. I guess I should never feel for women who struggle with depression because of that, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:36 PM
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It's interesting that you call this "feminine shit." If a man said that, he'd be labeled the "m" word. Very interesting....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:33 PM
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You're conflating dating with LTRs. If a man took you out to eat or to the park for a few dates but you discover that he just wanted to "get his freak on" after a while that still qualifies as a date. He may not be the best quality date but that's still dating. I dated a girl back in college who I took out on a few dates on and off campus and I found out after a while that she only went out with me so that I could pay for some of her textbooks. She obviously wasn't a high quality date but that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:20 AM
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Many men don't know they have it. My dad JUST learned that he had adult ADHD 5 years ago when he switched to a different doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:12 AM
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Hooking up is a part of dating so yes....it counts as a dating option. Straight women generally have more options than their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:58 AM
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You don't have to be rich to be a Chad. One of my uncles who's worked low paying jobs has such a high body count that it lead to him having an STD and he still was able to date women AFTER getting that STD(and being transparent about it.) He's tall, dark, and handsome and still looks like he's in his 30's at 52.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:48 AM
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Chris Brown has the personality of a sledgehammer and has 50 million followers on Facebook that are 80% women according to Audience Insights. Let's not kid ourselves....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:42 AM
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Nice strawman. It's not about celebrities. It's about how double standards such as what I've pointed out have become normalized in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:30 PM
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I'm a straight guy. But half my fat male friends are natural comedians who can make girls laugh without even trying. I studied from them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:26 PM
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It's all relative. I know women who wounded up with bums who were still talk, dark, and handsome. A man who's short, swagless, and ugly could never get away with mediocrity with women the same way men who won the genetic lottery could. That's what always gets left out of the conversation. The men that women "lower their standards" for still have to meet a certain looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:19 PM
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As a personal anecdote, I find that fat men, short men, and ugly men tend to have the greatest sense of humor and I think what you said might explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:07 PM
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But he should be able to name people and specifically speak on what they teach that's "harmful" to average guys. This is literally no different than bold partisan claims about Democrats supporting pedophiles or Republicans wanting to bring Jim Crow back from people who barely know anything about either party. If Red Pill is so damaging, it should be easy to name 10 prominent people in the movement and explain what's harmful about their beliefs. Vague claims shouldn't count because it's too drive…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:37 PM
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I don't expect the average Joe to do it. But I certainly expect a person making bold claims about it to. Edit: And I noticed he deleted his comments. How shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:29 PM
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misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:45 PM
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Yep. I get it. There's a lot of psychos and assholes out there and it's easy to pigeonhole a group into a box due to experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:18 PM
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Some statistics showed that modern women prefer hookup culture more than men though so you can't blame the Red Pill for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:08 PM
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AKA no evidence at all. I bet you can't even name 10 prominent Red Pillers off the gate. Here....I'll name 1 for you who actually wrote books: Rollo Tomassi.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 09:07 PM
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I got molested by 2 grown women as a kid and I still mostly focus on them as individuals and know that women as a whole don't molest boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:55 PM
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I could post 5 links from r/TwoXChromosomes alone that try to justify women holding prejudice against all men. It's too easy to provide examples of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:52 PM
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By who? Other women? Nobody cares about mens' opinions on women in 2022 because we'll be instantly labeled misogynists for the mildest takes on gender. I guess this is an in-house problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:50 PM
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Kinda proving the point here. The mainstream shapes our societal culture and stigmatizes and penalizes certain things more than others. Men are quick to be called the "m" word even for the mildest takes while women can say "all men are trash" and get passes for it. Tomi Lahren just doubled down on her statement that most men are trash on a livestream and she still has a gig at Fox News. Let Sean Hannity say most women are trash and we all know what would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:46 PM
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Men who complain about bitter women are deemed misogynists though so at least you have that in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 08:43 PM
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Trump just had a female politician in Arizona claim him as the most important man in her life followed by her own husband. Only a HVM can have that effect on a woman. Wealth, power, respect, and not pussy whipped. Trump fits it to a T. And I'm a Rand Paul supporter so no bias here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:54 AM
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Trump is literally the textbook definition of a HVM. He's rich, runs successful businesses, was(and might again be) President, has a strong and diehard following, and is one of the least pussy whipped men in the country. Who Trump chooses to marry doesn't take away from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:12 AM
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There's some truth to this. I remember, back in college, White girls who grew up in the suburban South with Republican parents were the main ones getting trains ran on them by Black athletes and frat boys. On the flip side, I knew women from Africa(the motherland) who were really enamored with White dudes and saw them as Prince Charming. However, I emphasize *some* truth because it's not really the norm. There's just a sizable niche of women who specifically go for men very different from them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:00 AM
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Your charisma must be through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 10:07 PM
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Yup. I more so posted that as a shower thought. I live in the South and, even here, I don't see women flocking to sugar daddies even though money still matters no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:08 PM
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And I'd personally fuck Lizzo. So, you're bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 08:00 PM
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In the Philippines and the Dominican Republic, it appears to be very normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:51 PM
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Were these men middle aged? I don't know what race you are based on the avi but I definitely have seen a trend of older White dudes flirting with young Black/Asian/Hispanic girls. It's funny too because, here in North Carolina, a lot of these dudes come off as MAGA types.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:48 PM
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Sounds like more so a case of you taking your own initiative rather than having societal pressure put on you. SAHM's aren't stigmatized by anyone except a subgroup of bitter feminists. And, as many women on here say, men's physical standards especially in the U.S. are low particularly with simps. Honestly, unless a woman weighs over 350+ pounds or suffers from a deformity, she won't be truly considered unattractive in this day and age. I even saw a girl on here argue with several men that Lizzo …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:41 PM
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It helps you get accepted by women too. Let's not kid ourselves. We all know those stories about married men with wedding rings or dudes with attractive girlfriends suddenly finding themselves getting approached and even hit on by other women. I can relate to the latter personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:07 PM
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This only applies to broke or unattractive nice guys though. Women are generally cool with a rich or attractive man acting like doormats and pussy whipped simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:47 AM
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This is a garbage take. There's absolutely different levels of decency among men and women alike. We all fall under a spectrum of decency and civility. If R Kelly and I both called ourselves "decent guys", there will objectively be infinitely more evidence of me being a decent guy than R Kelly. Let's not play dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:42 AM
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Depends on what you mean by "dating up." I have a 52 year old uncle who doesn't make much money and has an STD but he stays hooking up with women younger than him(albeit not of the best quality) because he's the epitome of tall, dark, and handsome. He still rocks long, well kept dreadlocks at his age and looks like he's in his 30's. Dating up can just as easily apply to a man's looks/attractiveness as it can social status/money. If an average looking woman hooks up with an attractive man who's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:31 AM
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It stemmed from online dating tbh. It applies less irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:28 AM
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Depends. The longest relationship I ever had was back in college from a sorority chick who used to party and drink a lot. She was still a smart person who was on the Dean's list though. I don't think what you're saying is as mutually exclusive as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:23 AM
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What is a "compliment" to begin with? If I congratulate one of my male friends or relatives for getting a promotion on his job, does that not count as a compliment? Or do I specifically need to rave about his looks in order for it to count?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:38 AM
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It's apples and oranges because men and women value different things. Most men give zero fucks about the beauty of other men. That's just a fact. It's not a matter of us "suppressing" those compliments. We genuinely don't care. It's just like how women rarely support the WNBA and most WNBA fans are statistically men. That has nothing to do with women having a vendetta against female athletes or female basketball players. It's just that most women genuinely give zero fucks about the WNBA as a spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 10:36 AM
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In 2022, no woman in the West is too unattractive for simps to cater to. Even Lizzie Velasquez who was deemed the ugliest woman on Earth had multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:56 PM
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Prince was a "Chad" in my book. shrugs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:25 PM
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Exactly. Look at how many women support Donald Trump who's the epitome of a real life RPer. Women claim to dislike them while secretly liking them like Helga from Hey Arnold.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:18 PM
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It simply refers to women cherishing one man(the Alpha) out of raw attraction and true desire and bending the rules to be able to get with him verses tolerating another man(the Beta) for his resources and stability while lacking true raw attraction for him and holding him to high standards that she never gave the Alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:11 PM
0

The 1960's called......
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:04 PM
2

That's true but good luck getting that point across to the people on here who swear men are all thirsty dogs who would kill their own family for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:59 PM
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Exactly. No one's saying a fat neckbeard working at Trader Joe's is scoring young women lol. They purposefully misconstrue the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:18 AM
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Here we go again. While it's true that 30+ men who look like neckbeards, have terrible bodies, and are flat broke won't have much access to 18-25 women, you can bet your last dollar that 30 something men who stay in good shape, don't look bad, and have their finances in order can date them. Also, women like to claim that women are more naturally mature than men. While this claim is polarizing, it ironically justifies age gap relationships. Young women tend to assume that older men are more matur…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:16 AM
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Nah. I can read fine. I'm just petty when it comes to winning arguments. You tried to pull the whole "I know RP men on here who are XYZ" card and I pointed out that one of the things you said contradicted the RP. Then you tried to claim that many men don't follow every aspect of RP which is terrible logic because that can apply to anything. I mean....Harvey Weinstein was/is a male feminist. Plenty of Blue Pilled or feminist men have said or done awful things to women that their ideology discoura…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:11 AM
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Yup and none of that encourages having kids by different women and paying an excess in child support as a result. Which means that what you initially said had nothing to do with the RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:24 AM
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And what do you think Trpers "preach?"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:21 AM
0

Again, name me ONE prominent Red Piller who's advocated knocking different women up in an irresponsible manner. You can't just make a baseless claim out of the blue. Use examples. I can make a baseless claim that feminists support aborting baby boys and claim that feminists still have boys because they don't practice what they preach but it'd be a stupid claim to make due to the lack of evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 02:14 AM
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Name me ONE Red Piller who's advocated knocking up different women and losing money from paying so much child support. I'll wait....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:55 AM
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Well, it's not the norm and it's actually strongly discouraged in the movement. Guys irl who have different baby mamas tend to not be red pilled at all. They put pussy on a pedestal to the extent that it crumbles their life and leads to crippling child support payments. There's absolutely nothing red pilled about this outcome lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:49 AM
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Men who have multiple baby mamas tend to be simps or blue pilled though. Also, Nice Guys tm tend to be Blue Pilled too because they put women on a pedestal. RP is ultimately about not putting women on a pedestal. Execution varies though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:12 AM
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But don't women say all the time how women are more mature than men. It's funny how ya'll don't even see how that belief makes a case for age gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:55 PM
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If you're 30 and not ugly and stay in good shape, it's ridiculously easy to date early 20's women. Obviously, it's not going to be the same for every man but a 30 year old man on average has a wider range of women to choose from than a 20 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:50 PM
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Yes. The average Joe eventually finds someone compatible with them. I'm more so specifically touching on the idea of women giving up on their preference and settling for men outside of it. That's not really a big thing in the West in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:53 PM
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Missed my whole point entirely. Men compliment each other constantly outside the realm of looks. Men don't value male beauty at all. It's not as if we're suppressing our true feelings lol. We literally just don't care. Men care more about strength, physique, and success and we compliment each other based on those parameters all the time. Hell, speaking of grooming, men especially in the Black/Hispanic community compliment each other's haircuts very often. If you have a fresh cut, a fade, 90 degr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:47 PM
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Man...I'll be seeing Mexican men who are fat, short, and dress like shit with bomb Mexican women all the time. I really envy how close knit and supportive you guys are to each other sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:44 PM
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And no, by default these relationships don't have to be 'oh you're a baiter male har har har.' It's quite possible for a woman to be very attracted to and love a man she wasn't initially sure about. Not in 2022. Modern women would rather commit literal beastiality than have LTR's with men outside their preference. Times have changed my friend. I know it's a tough pill for dudes to swallow but life is all about taking the hard truths and knowing how to navigate them. The same women bashing bald, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:42 PM
2

Generally speaking, hypergamy in developed countries(West and East Asia) revolves around treating men like status symbols with a dash of economic power. Hypergamy in developing countries revolves around economics first and foremost with some religious influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:35 PM
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See my other response below. Straight men genuinely give zero fucks about the beauty of other men whereas women value female attractiveness even if they're straight. Men compliment each other's physique and build all the time though which is basically the male equivalent of what you're asking. Men value strength and physique in other men. Women value beauty and attractiveness in other women. We really are cats and dogs sometimes so you can't apply the same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:04 PM
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Men compliment each other's physique all the time in gyms and sports and what have you. The reason straight men don't call other men good looking or attractive is because we genuinely don't care about attractiveness in other men. Straight women, on the other hand, still value female attractiveness in other women, which is why they're more likely to rave about other women's attractiveness/looks. It simply isn't in a man's nature to gaf about another man's attractiveness. But physique is different…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:55 PM
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Not in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:58 PM
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Being awkward has pretty much no use anywhere: Not on the job, not in school, not with making friends, and definitely not with dating. I don't know what else to tell you. Social awkwardness will make even friendly people leave you alone because they feel they're bothering you based on your whole vibe and they won't be able to even have a basic conversation with you. Even if an awkward person is attractive, that initial attraction might cause someone to fumble the bag so to speak in terms of sust…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:07 AM
1

I feel it depends on the demographic giving the compliments too. At my old job, older married White women used to always tell me that I was handsome and well-spoken and it was clear to me that they felt comfortable telling me that because they were married and they assumed I wasn't attracted to them(which was a correct assumption.) Young single women, on the other hand, will definitely turn quite a few men on by throwing out compliments to their detriment. They're aware of how in demand they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:59 AM
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We do. Just not on looks. I used to play football in back in high school and we'd always praise each other and foster a sense of brotherhood. I find men in the gym to be very supportive of other men too. We just don't praise each other's looks like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:48 AM
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Women don't get judged for being perpetually single like men so it's apples and oranges. After a certain while, a man who's perpetually single or sexless risks being viewed as an outcast, creep, closet homosexual, loser, incel, etc. even if that doesn't apply to him. A woman who's perpetually single is usually presumed to be holding out for the right one or focused on other things which is typically the case. I also lowkey suspect that the rise of media coverage of incels is a PSYOP to pressure …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:45 AM
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Generalizations are made all the time everywhere because of trends and patterns that are rampant in certain circles. For example, Mississippi has a big reputation for racism, lack of education, and obesity. You could theoretically infer that Mississippi should never have that reputation because there's plenty of individuals that don't fit that profile but the reputation stuck because of a combination of pre-conceived notions and the fact that certain trends do show Mississippi to be worse on tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:36 AM
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It helps you get accepted by female peers too. AKA The Pete Davidson Effect. Or even the Married Man effect. Women love men who are desired and validated by other women because it makes them feel more special for choosing him. It doesn't even have to be sexual either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:49 PM
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Doesn't that apply to almost everything though? The majority of politicians on both sides are trash. The biggest feminist icons are hypocrites. Many pastors get exposed as scam artists, pedophiles, and cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:34 PM
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Yup. In the near future, only the richest and poorest of men will have the most options. CEO's and felons will contribute to the majority of births while average men will get settled into relationships with reformed thots and single moms after years of failure. Stay strong my sub 7 brethren.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:32 PM
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Simps really fucked up the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 10:29 PM
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I'm 30 and look younger than my age. When you hit the big 3-0, it's a blessing because you can appeal to both women in your age group as well as younger women in their early 20's. The majority of women I date are in their early-mid 20's even though I'm very much open to 30 something women too. For the other group, though, it really depends on what you mean by "look older." I think young women will generally be impressed by a young man who doesn't look "boyish", dresses sharp, acts stoic, and spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:32 PM
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It could be true. Women are cherished for their looks to begin with so it simply makes sense. What's hilarous and ironic to me though is that the same American women boasting about this "undisputed fact" get bitter and cry "misogyny" when men claim foreign women look better than American women. That's quite a funny conundrum. American women want to claim that they objectively look better than American men but, when American men praise the looks and lack of obesity of women overseas, feelings get…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:21 PM
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Don't go to bars then, join social clubs, volunteer, don't go to a lifting oriented gym then? Goodness...you missed my point entirely. I was saying that men get out more often than you think. It's just that men and women usually dominate different types of venues which might give one gender the impression that the other doesn't get out that often. Of course they do notice I said to get out and go earn a salary, that does not mean just college. Men are just less motivated overall. Perhaps but, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:08 PM
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I mean...there's literally memes about clubs and bars being sausage fests. Many lifting oriented gyms are dominated by men too. It really depends on the venue. As for the college thing, let's not forget that many blue collar jobs such as being a carpenter, cop, fireman, janitor, plumber, construction worker, etc. are still dominated by men. Not having a college degree doesn't automatically make you less motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 04:37 PM
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Maybe but is this really male centric? Also, in America, it's important to factor in how mass shootings and COVID have lead to an increase in helicopter parenting. I've heard stories of kids who have literally lost lives at clubs, bars, and parties over petty shit that they had nothing to do with. I'm sure parents would rather have their sons playing games at home than take that risk. That said, at least here in the South, sports are still a huge thing. Playing football is still a rite of passag…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:52 PM
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I never implied that the average man is an incel. I've said that average men are invisible to the majority of women and have to work really hard to increase their options. Even women on here claim that they find almost no men attractive on a daily basis which kind of proves my point. Anyone can get into at least 1 relationship. I've never implied otherwise. But there's a big disparity in options between the average man and the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:06 PM
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My past college experience tells me otherwise. Many dudes I've known with an UMC background were sleeping around while still making it on the Dean's list and what have you. Also, regardless of class, women generally like men who've been "approved" by other women romantically or sexually more than perpetually lonely or sexless men. I mean sure....there's women who are against fuckboys understandably but a fuckboy is still higher on the social totem pole than a sexless/inexperienced man after a ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:52 AM
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I've said in another thread that a regular 9-5 guy who's a law abiding citizen has the same options as an obese single mother. It sounds like hyperbole on the surface level but it's true. Average men are as invisible to the majority of women as fat single moms are to the majority of men. And average women have so many simps and options to choose from that dating is like eating at Golden Corral for them and they still complain about the quality while regular men continue to eat from the Dollar Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 03:46 AM
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Sounds like your an above average woman speaking from a place of privilege. There's plenty of women online and offline who complain about being invisible, not getting dates/LTR's, fatphobia, "pretty privilege", colorism, etc. But I guess those aren't real women since they don't find themselves enjoying the same privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:46 PM
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The Red Pill is a philosophy no different from any other philosophy but the application of it varies. Everybody has a philosophy. RP is one of the few Western philosophies that hasn't been absorbed by modern gynocentrism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:41 PM
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He's currently married(albeit to a single mom with 5 kids) but he's always been a casanova.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:23 AM
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For FUCKING see that right there! There’s something men say that women have to learn isn’t true. You keep convoluting dating with fucking, they aren’t the same to women so a woman is going to hear that and be like oh I’m going to have such an easy time as an average woman dating an average man Awesome! When reality is by ‘average’ a lot of guys here mean a dude still living at home working at the piggly wiggly still catching the bus, but he’s not morbidly obese so oh look he’s a catch! So they m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:00 AM
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Average men today have roughly the same amount of options as a morbidly obese 35 year old single mom so it's a false equivalence. Only the minority of men who are fuckboys or highly desirable experience "post nut clarity." Average men today can't afford to be too picky if they want a relationship whereas women are in a better position to sort out their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:17 AM
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Because tons of women claim otherwise which is very misleading. Women are quick to say that a man can't get dates because of his personality instead of just saying that his looks are too mediocre to get away with behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:48 PM
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I don't need to know it. The women who say otherwise need to know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 11:09 PM
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Not in today's women empowerment and body acceptance culture. A woman will get cancelled faster than a voided check for saying something like that today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:09 PM
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I have a 52 year old uncle who works a dead end job and has an anger problem but still slept with so many women that he's contracted an STD and he STILL gets women even despite his lack of success and having an STD because he's the textbook definition of tall, dark, and handsome(especially for his age.) C'est La Vie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:07 PM
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Yet if men were to say the same thing in adverse, it'd be considered "misogynistic." Almost every female bully I've ever seen was either fat or ugly or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:57 PM
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Then more women should say looks matter over personality to the average woman. If Chris Brown was ugly as sin, he wouldn't have a music career beyond 2011.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:53 PM
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Europe has rising obesity too. Let's not kid ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:48 PM
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I live on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 05:19 PM
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Nice Guys tm are the epitome of Blue Pilled men and women despise them. At least RP guys who put in the actual effort on their bodies and careers reap the benefits of attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:53 PM
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There's tons of non-RP men who can't attract or date a woman to save their life as well as RP guys who've shown results. This post is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:50 PM
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My mom is VERY old fashioned and she ironically hates on "modern women" more than any man I ever met. I used to even have to hide certain gf's from my mom because she doesn't approve of pre-marital sex even though I've done it behind her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:43 PM
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And almost every feminist who claims men are oppressing women dates men. Goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 05:19 PM
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I'm saying! OP is clearly out of touch if she thinks men today are all rushing to white collar office jobs even in so-called urban areas. I live in a big city and I see men getting into trades or getting certifications for specific work all the time. Two of my friends who are 2 years younger than me(I'm 30) are licensed auto mechanics. I have another friend who got into truck driving. And I have some other male friends and relatives who became cops, security guards, firefighters, carpenters, bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:25 AM
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The South and Midwest is full of traditional men even in the younger generation. A lot of my friends who grew up with me learned trades or do hands on type work and we're mainly under the age of 35. I myself learned a trade after finishing college. Feminism at its core is fine. Women can get good jobs, get their own property, and not have to succumb to traditional values. I'm okay with that. I dislike 21st century feminism because it spends more time demonizing men, blaming average men for probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:31 PM
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Could be a slight statistical difference but it'd probably be a Mr. Fantastic stretch of a conclusion to make. It'd be like finding relationship data on blondes and brunettes and drawing conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:04 PM
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I highly disagree. I hang out with tall dudes all the time and my dad's side of the family is tall and I literally no difference in the longevity or stability of the relationships versus average/short guys. The only advantage is attraction and getting more options from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:57 PM
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I mean...it's a lose-lose situation. PPD Women: "Men are too thirsty these days. Having low standards turns women off." PPD Man: "Okay. Then, I want a young, fit woman who's a virgin for a relationship" PPD Women: "Your preference is problematic!" Can the women on this sub please make up their minds? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:47 PM
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Is there any proof that tall men are more immune to breakups and divorces though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 06:37 PM
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They are both problematic why do you always have to make this into a fight? It's not a fight per say. It's calling out hypocrisy because men get shamed all the time for pointing that out. I'm just saying that both groups are entitled to hold out for their preference, regardless if it's reasonable or not. That's what women tell us all the time and I see nothing wrong with that. What's even worse is these young men are ready to marry and lay down their whole life for a "virgin" but just because sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:31 PM
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Linking up with toxic men with desirable physical traits IS hypergamy. I have cousin who dated an unemployed abusive bum who's tall, dark, and handsome. That's still hypergamy in the physical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:48 PM
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And many women who want tall men are borderline midgets. And many women who grew up in decent homes want "Tupac in a business suit." And many broke/working class women want rich men. I don't see how that's any different other than women getting praised for their standards by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:37 PM
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Not true. Many Asian and Middle Eastern women who are above average looking are virgins or late bloomers due to their cultural upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:35 PM
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Women hold out for men making 6 figures, 6ft men, and "Tupac in a business suit" all the time and get told "YAAAS Queen" by other women and society for it. I'm not sure why men looking for virgins for LTR's is any more "problematic."(See: It isn't.).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:33 PM
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Lol...the whole point of this thread is comparing men and women dating. A fit/classy Black woman not having as much options as a White/Asian woman doesn't negate that she has more options than mediocre looking men. It just means that she's not as privileged as other women. Your theory is generally true but it doesn't negate my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:28 PM
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Most men will never be built like wrestlers. The average muscular man has more of a football or swimmer type of body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 01:09 AM
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Those type of bodies age like fine wine compared to dad bods and beer bellies though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:33 PM
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Non physical: overly sexual right out the gate, fastest way to give me ick. Whatever you do, don't travel to Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 10:32 PM
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You don't have to. You're tripping if you think a Black woman who's fit and classy has less options than a short White/Asian/Black man with a mediocre face. Men don't filter women out by race the same way many women do by height. Men will make exceptions for women outside our general preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:51 PM
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How is that painful? The stat I gave you is a fact. I never said it was a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:57 PM
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If you're an adult man, then you're a real anomaly. Less than 5% of adult men in the U.S. are below 5'4 so what applies to you doesn't really apply to the average short guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:47 PM
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Texas and California is full of Westernized Hispanic women and they still largely date and marry Hispanic men in the 5'4-5'10 range and, when they date out, it's usually with White/Black men of average height so this is cap. I used to briefly live in San Antonio which is full of "Westernized" Hispanics who tend to speak English with a country twang and I've never known any Hispanic woman to make a big deal over height at all. And I literally used to hang out with them all the time, date them, go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:43 PM
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You initially vaguely said race and I responded by citing how men have literally been shown to be more open to interracial dating/sex than women. Also, I was suggesting that weight plays a bigger factor than race. A fit Black woman with a nice face will easily attract more people than the average short man regardless of race. That's what this whole thread is about. What trait will make men write off women the same way that short men often get written off by women. It can't be race(not even Black…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:11 PM
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Once again, an advantage doesn't mean that it's impossible for the other group to have success in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:05 PM
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I'm not talking about sports stars. I'm talking guys who were jocks or athletes period.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:03 PM
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A "midget" by modern women's standards is a man in the 5'4-5'8 range. By all means, both groups of women hook up with guys in that range all the time and it's no big deal. You clearly never lived around them. Also, White dudes got the skin color stimulus package with them too. "Mejorar la raza."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:02 PM
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There's more than one race. Also, I'm not convinced that a fit Black woman has a harder time getting sex/dates than a mediocre looking White/Asian man. Black women who are overweight can lose it, act classy, and get more options than a 5'5 plain faced White/Asian/lame Black guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 05:41 AM
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I know that but many of these women still hook up with "unholy" men outside the church and have unprotected sex in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:15 AM
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So, if a man who was the real life version of Andy from 40 year old Virgin and a buff man who was a former quarterback and ran trains both offered to date you, who would you honestly be more willing to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:40 AM
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Definitely not race. Men are ironically more open to dating/sleeping out than women. Studies have even shown this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:37 AM
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I like women in the range as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:34 AM
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They can always go for Hispanic and Filipino women if it's that rough. They treat White/Black men better than our own women tbh. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:30 AM
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r/notlikeothergirls
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:18 AM
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This sounds like incel copium with all due respect. I used to play football back in high school and college and I live in the South. High n-count dudes were banging some of the finest women in their prime years from what I've seen. Not denying that some dumpster dive but they're banging more hot women than the average Joe. That's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:14 AM
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Goes both ways. Modern churches have a lot of single moms and reformed thots as well looking for a husband or a step dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:11 AM
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Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians talk a lot of good game about self sufficiency, but in reality they actually use just as much welfare if not more then the average. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:09 AM
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It's simply about advantages, not absolutes. 18-30 year old women simply have an advantage over older women in terms of options and desirability. It doesn't mean older women can't get dates or be deemed individually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 09:37 PM
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I mean.....contrary to what Reddit says, I see plenty of guys say under 5'8 in relationships too. I never met a short incel in my life. But I know for a fact that there's still a bias towards tall men and young women. That doesn't mean it's impossible for older women or shorter men to find partners. It just means that the difficulty level raises higher and they have to compensate more than the other groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 07:20 PM
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Every man gets shat on in social media though so that's not saying much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:24 PM
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Btw, it's age. The way women freak out over men preferring women in the 18-30 age range even if they're old is similar to how men freak out over women preferring 6ft and taller men even if the women are short. The reactions are too uncanny. And both groups will use the "but only 15-20% of people are in this range" as a talking point too. Older women tend to envy how much attention young women get. Short/average men tend to envy how much attention tall men get. And age is immutable just like heig…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:33 PM
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That's absolute cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:29 PM
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Race? Nah. Most men don't fixate over races of women they're not into. It's more common for men to openly write off women due to their age and/or weight from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:26 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:23 PM
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Nah. I just can't do it. And I doubt most men are like that unless they're flat broke and need a place to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:23 PM
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Bet she makes a banging casserole and fried chicken. Mad respect to your mom. She's not entirely wrong, and she's not entirely right. Us good girls still exist, we're just hot commodities and low on energy for the bullshit. She ironically hates red meat but her greens and baked chicken is on point. And yeah....I agree that it's hyperbolic but parents will often use hyperbole to make their children choose wisely. The problem is that the red-pill audience isn't made up of "alpha good dudes" that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:19 PM
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It's dubious if he ever wanted a relationship and I think he used hookers to avoid getting into one. And being wealthy in itself is "cool." Everyone wants to be rich and stable. And his personality was infectious to everyone. His funeral felt almost like a concert because of how many people attended it. Yes. Getting casual sex from real women is "cool" and part of the RP dream. But that's far from the only thing that should define a man. Being successful, likeable, and having a lot of friends is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:12 PM
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I mean.....that's excluding domestic violence and child abuse right? But, either way, it proves my point that the worry over "sexlessness" is overblown. The West and East Asia are more "sexless" than other parts of the world while still being some of the most developed and least violent places in the world. It's mostly fear mongering.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:06 PM
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No one cares if you’re single. Single men are much more likely to get lumped in with extremists than taken men. That alone proves that this isn't factual. You're taking it too literal. I'm not saying people automatically freak out over a man's single status. I'm, instead, saying that single men are often the main targets of blame when the minority of incels, mass shooters, and rapists act recklessly. Bill Maher even had a whole segment putting down young single men that got posted on here and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:37 AM
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Obese women deserve to be treated like the average man. Women love to brag about not settling for average men. Men love to brag about not settling for obese women. Equality at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:25 AM
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Women literally made jokes about genociding short men on social media for the longest time. Like Bill Burr said, women move way different from men when they try to stoop our level. A man will simply make a quick fat girl joke then move on. A woman will claim short men should never be born and call it a "preference."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:19 AM
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Men are far more likely to do this than women are, though when women do it they get pushback, too. Not in today's age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:15 AM
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Nope. I don't really miss points. I intentionally employ the logic of people in egregious ways to test their claims. Peterson has a very wide audience and incels are a small niche of people across the board. Claiming Peterson is a "king of incels" is a misnomer because none of his content specifically had their ideology. I see your point somewhat about Trump but, using that same logic, Trump must be the King Of Nigeria because of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAzeF8WlFwg
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 12:02 AM
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Relevance? We're talking about serial killers only being in the minority of shootings and murders in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:26 PM
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Alt Right leader Richard Spencer voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 election. This is actually a verifiable fact that Spencer himself confirmed. I guess Joe Biden is Alt-Right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:25 PM
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I mean....I'm just not sure what people are even expecting in this scenario. More young men are going to become sexless in the West and East Asia. That's inevitable. But it's dubious how much of a correlation this will have on societal structure and chaos. A mass shooting driven by a hate crime happened in El Paso in 2019 when America saw record low unemployment. I think people are connecting dots that aren't meant to be connected. No....you can't tie the numerous inner city homicides every week…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:54 PM
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It's more of an older woman grievance. Young women fuck with games and geek culture quite a bit at least compared to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:32 PM
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no. youll discard all your preference when you meet someone in real life you feel somewhat attracted and connncted to. most people don't wind up with a partner they pictured in their head. Sounds like settling to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:29 PM
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People getting dropped in Chicago every week like a favela in Brazil and people still just focus on serial killers. Don't get me wrong. The randomness of them is scary but they're far from making up the majority of killings in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:19 PM
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Being called a fuckboy or a manwhore is pretty insulting too but your comment basically proves my point. Incels disgust women far more than most other types of men and that's why it's a go to insult for any man they don't like. Even Jordan Peterson, a married man who's advocated for more stable marriages was labelled "king of the incels" for saying certain things. That's because women know sexless men hold less value in society than playboys and manwhores so incel is used more as an insult and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:25 PM
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What does Reddit have to do with anything? Lol...ya'll take this website way too seriously. Almost every Black person on Reddit is a suburbanite who can't stand "black culture" and prefers White partners for LTR's but is that how the majority of Black Americans actually are irl? Lol. Of course, Reddit where every other poster claims to be "autistic", "introverted", or "socially awkward" as a flex is going to be overrepresented in conversations in just about anything, including r/Chiraqology. As …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:07 PM
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I mean...some years back, my mother told me that young women today are basically hoes with no good home training and don't make good wives or read the Bible. She's one of those super country Southern moms who misses the "old days"(well, excluding Jim Crow). Case in point, parents always say that shit to both their sons and daughters so that they won't just fall for anyone. Even some generations before, many fathers will tell their daughters that men were out to get them and many mothers will tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:54 PM
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Yet when women encounter men with toxic views online, they never label them "fuckboy." Just "incel." Hmmmm....it's almost like even women are aware of the fact that one toxic group is infinitely less desirable than the other. A man with experience will always have an advantage over a sexless man. And you don't have to necessarily be a "fuckboy" to be experienced. I am pretty experienced with different sex techniques and it's been beneficial. Women aren't fond of dudes that they have to basically…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:45 PM
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I did a research paper back in college based on a study that confirmed that convicted felons had a higher fertility rate than college educated men. Kinda puts a hole to the OP's theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:36 PM
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Well, golly gee....It's almost like there's numerous news reports and articles from the MSN that demonize single men and tell them that they're domestic terrorists and predators until proven innocent unlike single women who mostly just deal with a minor stigma of rushing into a LTR or marriage.................by other women. It's apples and oranges. Single men literally have to get laid or have a gf/wife to prove that they're competent and not potential threats to society. Single women never hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:28 PM
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True but you can always fake the funk. I had a late uncle who owned multiple homes, always dressed fly with a cool suit, had a smooth voice, drove nice cars, and took trips everywhere and he never got married in all of his 65 years in the world. It was funny too because he was known to be a "fly guy" who women thought was handsome yet he never got married ever. And he preferred to pay prostitutes for sex rather than have a LTR. So, on paper, he might be a "loser" via PPD standards. But he was ir…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:22 PM
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Absolutely. Also add family pressure. Parents and grandparents especially from more traditional backgrounds desperately want their sons to give them kids/grandkids or keep the legacy going.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:12 PM
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Your father must be proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:32 PM
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Realistically, a lot of socially awkward men act completely harmless around women because they're terrified of embarrassing themselves or women picking on their flaws. Of course, there's creeps and weirdos in the group. But there's also creeps and weirdos among extroverted men who are the life of the party or have the personalities of car salesmen. It's clear that no one itt has socially awkward friends. I have a few friends who fall in this category and they spend more times criticizing themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:30 PM
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You'll notice that there's also tons of conservative or "anti woke" spaces online too compared to the past. It's because people who advocate for straight men and conservatives as a group are both treated and branded as comic book villains in the mainstream which leads to the adverse effect of people growing as an online community and being able to discuss things without being labelled a negative thing just for existing. Men are expected to just go along blindly with the Blue Pill narrative even …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:47 AM
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That's why JustPearlyThings blew up so fast as a female RP channel. She holds modern women that men complain about accountable, has debates with them, and can't be accused of the "m" word because she's a young woman herself. I love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:05 AM
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Yup. American men should date/marry foreign women(which already happens) and American women should date/marry foreign men. Both sides win.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:11 PM
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Well, PPD women generally agree that American men are the Devil so whatever goes on in other countries is irrelevant. Those men overseas are clearly better than us gringos. That's why PPD never complains about them. They're doing something right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:57 AM
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Yeah. I know. Women should move to Nigeria where the men are so much better in every way and there's way more women's rights. I dated abroad before. You should just get a passport and meet your chivalrous knight in Lagos so won't have to put up with us horrible American men ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:54 AM
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You know? Let's remove the word privilege here cause it seems to bother you. Women have a competitive advantage in modern dating. It doesn't mean every woman unanimously has an easy time dating. That's not what a competitive advantage is. Also, I never said it was wrong for people to reject those they don't like at all. I simply said that women on average get more options to sort out through different types of men when it comes to dating and LTR's than the average man. I never implied women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:51 AM
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Yup. That's why more American women should move to Uganda, India, and Pakistan where men are superior to us terrible gringos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:43 AM
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Okay. Let me break it down. The average man will rarely if ever get approached by a woman(never mind a good woman.) The average man on OLD will rarely if ever get a match(never mind a good match.) The average man will get overlooked by women due to immutable traits(baldness, penis size, height, face, race, etc.) in contrast to vice versa. How tf is this a "privilege?" C'mon sis. Everybody knows modern dating caters to women much more than average men. Now, I will say that top tier men have it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:37 AM
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Because women here love to call men garbage all the time so I'd figure I'd sarcastically make that claim to get an upvote. Also, I love how you put words in my mouth and straight up lie about what I'm saying. I THANKED feminists who starting the sexual revolution. I wasn't sarcastic about that either. I gave feminists their flowers for encouraging more young women to sleep around like men and pushing twerking and "WAP" on women as "empowerment." I was able to get laid back in college off the str…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:25 AM
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Zero is admittingly hyperbolic. The average/generic man give or take will have a monogamous relationship with someone at some point(though the age is rising.) But average men are not in demand like average women which affects modern dating even with sex out the picture. Men have to work hard for our worth in dating. Nothing wrong with that. I don't know why women have a hard time accepting this when even Stevie Wonder can see it. Men have an advantage of feeling safe outside compared to women. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:18 AM
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So you agree? Cool. Nothing wrong with women having more options. There's women in Uganda and parts of India who have zero agency in who they date or marry. I'm glad us American bros made dating easier for women than many other parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:11 AM
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Who's complaining? I'm just pointing out a fact so obvious that Stevie Wonder can see it. I don't care about women have an advantage in this department. Not at all. In fact, the sexual revolution pushed by feminists has probably benefited attractive men more than any movement in history so ya'll have my salutations since I'm a 7.5 and sorta benefitted from that. Men have advantages over women in certain things too. There's no need to get triggered over basic facts. I never once whined or complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:08 AM
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Well, you can always move to Uganda, El Salvador, or Saudi Arabia where men are real men unlike us terrible gringos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:00 AM
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It's not easier for average men to find LTR's though. So, women have a competitive advantage by default because LTR's are equally difficult for both of us but women have more dating options on average. That's privilege or at least a competitive advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:54 AM
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It beats having zero access to sex though. Women can pick and choose. Men usually have very limited options unless they're top tier genetically or work harder than illegal immigrants from Guatemala.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:47 AM
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Women saying it themselves. I prefer to go by the source instead of "mansplaining."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:51 PM
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Because height/physique is the main way men visually attract women the same way face/curves are the main way women visually attract men. It was a counterargument to your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:20 PM
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Well, comparatively speaking, many women will choose a mediocre looking tall man over a slightly above looking average height guy regardless of personality. Now, it's possible for an average height guy to compensate in other ways such as fitness, money, humor, grooming, face, etc. but the fact that the average tall guy has the benefit of doing the bare minimum for the same woman reinforces OP's point. It wasn't men who said that tall men make women feel protected and feminine. It wasn't men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:25 PM
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Tall men are to women what "slim thicc" women are to men. There's plenty of women who fetishize men because of their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:29 PM
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This is false af.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:22 PM
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I used to watch a show on TLC about lottery winners and they'll complain about how stressful it was to have to install security and monitor their friends/relatives more closely. Still beats being broke and on food stamps though.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:36 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNGU3fk7jxw
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:22 AM
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Interestingly enough, she deleted her comment. But the girl you responded to was suggesting that I go for 12-19 year old girls due to being triggered by my comment. Your response co-signing her insinuates that I'm a pedophile since I'm 30. I don't mind shit posting or shit testing comments. You get used to it after a while. But accusing someone of pedophilia is no laughing matter. Call me a fuckboy, incel, asshole, loser, scrote, or whatever. Idc. But don't lump me in with pedos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:40 PM
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That sounds like prostitution with extra steps and not true love to me! Sorta but it depends. I have a relative that lives up North who knew the woman who got killed by her sugar daddy in Connecticut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:00 PM
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I know PPD is full of shit posts but implying that I'm a pedo is a seriously low blow. To quote Michael Jordan, "Stop it. Get some help."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:32 PM
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Never denied this. I'm just pointing out how American women claiming to be better looking than American men isn't even a major flex. American women > American men when it comes to looks. But Japanese, Swedish, Brazilian, Ukrainian, and Ethiopian women > American women when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:25 PM
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I'm 30, 5'10, and make a little more than 50K a year so nothing special. And women and men have similar obesity rates, though I'd expect women to have it higher.(Depends on your source really). I live in North Carolina and half the women I see are blatantly overweight/chubby while others are either fit or just slightly overweight. I'm not saying that men here are so good looking. I'm just saying that people exaggerate the gap in attractiveness between men and women on here. When I do my errands,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:54 PM
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Not interested. (Well, 19 is the lowest I'll go.) Plus, I never said men looked better. I'm just saying Americans in general regardless of gender have subpar looks compared to many other parts of the world. American women gloating about how great they look compared to American men is just so comical when the average French man looks better than the average American woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:44 PM
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Not really. I'm a 7.5 man and I've been approached before. Hell, probably more than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:31 PM
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This too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:29 PM
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No because actual incels(and femcels) are bitter nihilists who revel in sexualized misanthropy. They don't actually care about having sex because they can save money for a brothel or prostitute to give them that experience if it's that important. They care about being perceived as martyrs of the sexual revolution and modern dating and blaming women and men who lost their V cards for all of their failures and depression. Plus, incels believe that they deserve the same quality woman as Chad. I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:27 PM
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That's like going on LipstickAlley and seeing all those threads about women wanting sugar daddies and thinking that's how most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:21 PM
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A lot of American women are obese and ugly as sin. Stop the cap. Plus, more and more men are going to the gym. I'm a 7.5 and I look better than the average woman I see when I'm out doing errands. The only women who look better than me are teenaged girls. But grown women aren't even on my level look wise and I'm not even that handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 06:14 PM
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Yes and we(the OP) both agreed that it's an aesthetic thing and moved on once we understood that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:43 PM
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Who cares? In 2022, criminals and serial killers don't GAF about winning a fist fight. If they want a man killed or robbed of his resources, they'll do it with a weapon. I mean...sure, aesthetically it might look good for a man to win a fist fight in say....a family cookout with an angry cousin or a bar with some drunk asshole. It's fun to look at which is why Worldstar used to be really popular back in the day. But if a man is fighting an actual psychopath who wants him dead for good, he can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:32 PM
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It's all relative. Both short men and fat women will get jokes there way but the problems are largely different. Women(and simps) protect fat women because America is the fattest country on Earth and any run of the mill overweight American woman can turn obese or chubby if they don't eat right. Men also will date/marry fat women because they know slim/fit women are in high demand and get snatched up fast and having a plus-sized gf/wife is a better alternative than being lonely. And fat women hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:08 AM
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Okay so you agree that it's an aesthetic thing then. Glad we see eye to eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:11 PM
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And, in 2022, it doesn't matter one bit outside of attraction. A violent street thug can break into Dwayne The Rock Johnson's home and send him to Heaven with bullets. And a serial killer can go to a gym right now and kill every other buff man in the gym. Women like fit men because of the aesthetic and that's perfectly fine. But the idea that the average guy with a gym bod can move like Superman or Mike Tyson when conflict arises is just wrong and outdated. This isn't Mayberry anymore. Most fist…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:36 PM
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The mini conversation you had with other posters insinuates that a man who can overpower other men is more desirable to women. So, I used to anecdote of a violent gang member killing a businessman to showcase the hole in that logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:21 PM
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Women are judged by their beauty and youth, ability to cook, do housework, rear children, not be overweight, and have big boobs and a shapely butt and even wide hips. Women are also expected to be more chaste. But many women on PPD say day in and day out that men have zero standards as an insult by making us out to be the gender of hopeless romantics. I'm not sure if you alluded to this yourself but what you said totally contradicts the claim that other women on here make. Personally, I think me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:19 PM
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Ugly women exist for sure. I notice them. But it doesn't help that the femcels on Youtube/TikTok who decry "pretty privilege" tend to not be ugly(rather plain looking.) But I guess actual ugly women are too embarrassed to touch on those same topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:15 PM
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You've got to be kidding. One of the reasons r/short took off was because of women on social media publicly insulting, disrespecting, and even calling for the genocide of short men( via: Exposing Heightism.) And the crazy part is that PC culture and the woke mob doesn't care one bit about short men getting disrespected and negative stereotyped while it's deemed "evil" to say anything negative about fat women. At least when men prefer slim women, we don't go on social media obsessively clowning f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:10 PM
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For LTR's or fucking practice because I've been told on here that women don't value the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:07 PM
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Yup. People on both sides can't just chase after their preference and STFU anymore. Now, it's "I date this type of women because X" or "I date this type of man because X".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:06 PM
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So, if a gang member murdered a businessman in cold blood, would that make the gang member more desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:03 PM
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I don't have a problem with women dismissing men due to immutable traits. Don't want to date a short guy? Cool. Don't want to date a White/Black/Asian guy? Cool. Don't want to date a bald guy? Cool. It's a free world. The thing that bothers me as a man is how men get shamed for being "so shallow" and "only valuing women for their looks" left, right, and sideways. And prominent women constantly accuse us of only liking conventionally attractive women and having issues with fatphobia, colorism, sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:01 PM
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To play Devil's advocate, if this is true, why do White and Black American men have a higher rate of interracial dating than their female counterparts? Shouldn't it be the other way around since the women allegedly look so much better than us and can expand their horizons more? I'm not denying that women put more effort into their appearances and fashion but I think people on both sides overestimating how "ugly" men are. I never considered myself handsome in my life but I've been told that I'm k…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:13 PM
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But do you also consider medical students(especially those born overseas) who live at home with their parents in their 20's to be too codependent?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:49 AM
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I'm someone who's family oriented and would take more bullets than 50 Cent for my mother(and my father). Where do we draw the line between a man who's very close to his mother and a "mama's boy?" Is it all about money because that's the vibe I'm getting from OP's post. I live in a different state from my parents with several roommates and have all my college debt and bills paid off. I noticed a lot of women use "immature" as a dogwhistle term for broke. But there's plenty of successful guys who …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:20 AM
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So, are we gonna ignore how there's been numerous movements and feminists demonizing men's standards? This isn't even an online thing. I've been accused of being a so-called "colorist" in real life by some jaded women even though I'm not one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 09:17 PM
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I never said I was a HVM but I can see how you'd assume I think I'm one. There's a middle ground where men are neither LVM or HVM. I'm part of that middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:41 PM
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I said that we cannot assume someone who’s richer to be worse than someone who is poor or struggling. That was the implication in my entire post......... Your example doesn’t prove that either of them are HV tho. Both my posts implied that men working dead end jobs can never be considered HVM so why even bring that up? I even explained twice what makes a HVM. Please re-read my posts before coming up with these rebuttals. One is stuck in a dead end job, but how exactly is he any different than an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:16 PM
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This whole post is a strawman because I never once insinuated that a man's economic status affected his character or personality. I was making a comparison between a wholesome/kind man working a dead end job versus a professional guy with a shitty personality to emphasize that being a HVM has nothing to do with personality and everything to do with economic/social desirability. I was saying that men who work certain jobs or make certain income can never be considered HMV regardless of how great …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:39 PM
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I'm sorry but this is PPD-centric nonsense. Men after a certain age who still work at Walmart, McDonald's, or Starbucks are widely deemed losers and failures with the possible exception being if they have a managerial position there. They could be deemed friendly and courteous but no one considers them "high value" or top tier men regardless of their personal traits. A lawyer already meets the threshold for being considered a good catch as a man. And, as such, there's more acceptance over a lawy…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:31 PM
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Honestly, as long as women keep their weight at a healthy level they can make a lot of things work in their favor. This especially helps tall girls. Tall girls that aren't chubby get plenty of attention from men. Also, plenty of women dismiss short guys regardless of their face and it takes a lot of time and discipline to get a "gym bod" or athletic build.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 06:20 PM
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I'm 30 and I would say the 30's balances it out rather than giving men a complete advantage. I would say the 30's is usually a man's peak in attraction as well as career building but 30+ women don't actually lose out per say. They just have less options because a lot of 30 something men get taken and they're usually not as in demand as they were in their 20's. Many can find dates and relationships though. Also, it's much harder to be "tall, dark, and handsome" than it is to be pretty. Even the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 05:54 PM
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Depends on the LVM. Basement dwelling neckbeards or below average looking men working dead end jobs get zero women in the 1st place so HVM definitely cheat more than them on average by default. Criminals, thugs, bad boys, etc. probably cheat slightly more but the quality of the women they cheat with is also low so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:36 PM
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Nope. There's plenty of men stocking shelves at Walmart and taking orders at McDonald's who wouldn't harm a fly and are kind as hell but still deemed losers and failures in our society(that is, if they're above a certain age.) A successful man who cheats or acts like an asshole is still high value by contrast. I know PPD loves to be contrarian but that's how it is. Women are far more disgusted by broke men regardless of how kind and monogamous they are than successful men with toxic mentalities.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:33 PM
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I know a homeless man who's one of the nicest people I ever met and he has a lot of friends in the street that help him out and love him. Still not a high value man.........at all. The average woman will find an asshole lawyer to be more "high value" than a kind man stocking shelves at Walmart. Stop the cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:29 PM
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There's tons of morally sound and happy men who get zero attention or play from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:28 PM
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Define "raising requirements." What requirements are modern men even allowed to have in this day and age without being accused of misogyny, fatphobia, colorism, lookism, and slut shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:22 PM
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Haha. I'm glad you brought Chris up because Facebook Audience Insights data literally shows that Chris's followers are like 75%-80% women. And he has like 50 million followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:20 PM
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I'm also 5'10 and have been called "tall" by short women and little kids. I think people downplay how tall sub 6 ft. men are because of social media memes and the fact that so many dudes cap about their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:18 PM
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Women who aren't misandrist are a joy to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:16 PM
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So, like the Pete Davidson effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 02:18 PM
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Which is exactly what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:42 PM
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Forget my sardonic tone for a second. Tell me what lies I said to you. Since I'm apparently such a dumbass, it should be very easy to debunk me just like if I said Brazil isn't in South America. Tell me what lies I told you and break down why I'm wrong. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:22 PM
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I used Africa is an example to counter your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:14 PM
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Let me quote you troll. there are no “high spending independent females” there, and there definitely are not as much incels trying to figure out what’s the best way to undermine feminism. This was clearly an attempt at my rebuttal to bringing up Africa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:07 PM
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Well, I'm a hard worker by nature so I don't mind being a man who works hard for my results. In fact, it feels quite satisfying rather than having things hand to you by doing the bare minimum. That's the blue collar mindset. I would never want to be a woman. Nor do I discount what women go through. I just know that women have more dating options than the average man. This isn't a hot take nor am I implying that every option is ideal. But it's the truth. Average men have to put tons of effort to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:00 PM
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Women get more dating options period so that you have more chances to filter different men. Men have to work much harder to have the same dating options as an average woman. This isn't a hot take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:54 PM
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Okay troll. I literally said things that was already common knowledge about African countries, blue collar work, and birth rates and you somehow think I'm "screaming" because I said it sardonically. Tell you what. If you break down your points regarding Africa, birth rates, and blue collar jobs clearer, I won't respond at all to avoid hurting your feelings. Go ahead. I promise I won't respond nor do I want to. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:51 PM
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This is a debate forum genius. Literally every post on here is subject to debate and criticism. But now I know for certain with this post that you were/are just trolling for shock value so I'll move on to the next post. I don't have time for contrarian trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:41 PM
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Lol....literally every Reddit poster says this when they have no rebuttal. But I'm talking to a person who has no clue what blue collar work even is, thinks Africa's birth rate has anything to do with feminism, and thinks poor people will cease to exist in the West. But I'm the crazy one, right? I even gave you the opportunity to explain your points clearer but it's easier to just smugly dodge rebuttals like the Matrix. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:33 PM
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Did you really just imply that African countries haven't tried to undermine feminism? That statement is so hilariously wrong that I'm just going to assume that I'm misinterpreting you. And what you said before is fantasy and a complete misunderstanding of what "blue collar work" actually is. Blue collar work consists of lucrative careers such as plumbers, electricians, police officers, security guards, repairmen, firefighters, construction workers, contractors, farmers, etc. Many of these jobs p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:24 PM
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Ironically, Africa has the highest birth rate in the world while the most developed countries have the lowest birth rate. So, literally the exact opposite of what you described is bound to happen. Even in America, I can find tons of young mothers in low income communities whereas a lot of women I know in the suburbs are putting off kids for a very delayed time. The rich are "Japaning" at a fast rate in the West albeit they're more likely to adopt kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:07 PM
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There are genuine grievances people have with each other in different societies. Blaming it on the elites is a common but misguided scapegoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:05 PM
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You misogynist! How dare you criticize feminism like this. You should be banned!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:02 PM
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I just want women to admit that they have a significant advantage over straight men in the dating world and men have to work way harder to get results than the average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:01 PM
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Ironically, there's been a rise in femcel rhetoric on Tik Tok and Twitter from lonely women who consider themselves unattractive and are very unhappy about being perpetually single. This video just went viral on Tik Tok for instance. https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkblake/video/7153993489271852330?embed_source=null_null_null&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7153993489271852330&refer=embed&referer_url=www.thecoli.com%2F&referer_video_id=7153993489271852330 So yeah....not all women are content being deemed un…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:17 AM
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You wish. Kinda funny how that's the go to insult from people these days. I never met an incel in my life. Ya'll let those dweebs live in your head rent free lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:07 AM
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I think you're reading into the analogy way too much, especially since I'm far from a socialist. Here's a clearer explanation. At the base level, average men have limited options to find a good partner. Average women have more options to find a good partner. Because women have more options, they can afford to be meticulous and picky whereas men can really shoot themselves in the foot by setting their standards so high. A woman, for example, can reject men who work blue collar jobs, and hold hers…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:57 PM
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See my comment. This is no different from a middle class person raging against the unhealthy eating habits of low income people on food stamps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:34 PM
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Like I said in other posts, average men are like people on food stamps whereas women are like people who shop at Whole Foods. Yes. It's imperative that both people eat healthy for their survival but one group has way more variety of food to choose from and can afford to be picky compared to the other. A person on food stamps doesn't have enough money or options to say "Hmmm...let me check the ingredients to make sure this is the ideal meal I'd like to eat." Men shouldn't become so desperate or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:32 PM
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Femcel babble
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:26 PM
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I believe the main benefit to working out is that it's a step in the right direction. Even if a man doesn't get instant attention from women, he'll be way more competitive in the dating market than he'll be if he were obese or scrawny. Also, exercising regularly is good for confidence and mental health. There's been studies on that too. After working out, there's other things average men can do to improve themselves but working out regularly and building muscle is one of the best initiatives to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:49 PM
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As a 30 year old with 12% body fat, I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:43 PM
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Women will put up with that with physically attractive men more than the average Joe though. I've seen that first hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:58 PM
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I've never seen an attractive man in his 30s. There's more manly looking men in their 30's than their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:46 PM
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You have to understand though. Average men are comparable to people on food stamps. While average women are comparable to people who shop at Whole Foods all the time. Imagine telling both groups that they need to eat a healthy diet. Technically, they're both capable but it'll be way harder for people on food stamps to eat healthy than people who shop at Whole Foods. Women can afford to have high standards for Prince Charming or Tupac in a business suit because they recognize that the bare minimu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:39 PM
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You really think the average young woman's gonna pick a 5'6 guy who's confident and chivalrous over a 6'2 guy who's cocky and macho? If so, I have a bridge to sell you....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:25 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:19 PM
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Probably 3-15 years older. My brother is 32 and a high school basketball coach and he gets crushed on by teenage girls all the time. Granted, he's in great shape and he's Black(which don't crack lol) but it shows that men in their 30's can easily appeal to young women, especially if they take care of themselves. I'm 30 and I usually date women more than 5 years younger than me. Nobody's saying young women love grandpas in convalescent homes but women generally prefer men older than then than men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:50 PM
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For the billionth time, do you want me to post receipts of women on Reddit, Youtube, Quora, female blogs, etc. that they prefer older men over men their own age or younger? No one said it was the norm for marriage but for dating and hookups, plenty of young women are willing to date guys 5-15 years old than them. Only on PPD and FDS do women cap about being "disgusted" by older men when women everywhere else agree that men generally look their best in their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:28 PM
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Basically this. I'm not saying it's morally right but there's people on both sides who gain options from superficial qualities. Famous men have to deal with women who only want them because they're famous. Rich men have to deal with women who only want them because they're rich. Attractive men have to deal with women who only want them because they're attractive. I don't know why some women make it seem like it's only women who encounter people who only desire them for superficial qualities. I m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:47 PM
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Assuming you're not being sarcastic, thank you for at least being able to see it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:10 PM
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Do you think that a one off thing where you got what you wanted might feel more satisfying than if you found out you had white friends who only wanted for you to be in their circle so they could point out how "not racist" they were? I've also been there. Sadly, that's just how life is. A lot of people just want to be around those who benefit them. Of course, many people aren't like this either but it's just one of those common occurrences in life. I imagine a woman might like hearing a random gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:00 PM
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Your example wouldn't work because not all white girls want to sleep with a black guy, only some of them do. I think you missed my whole point. Obviously, most women are generally attracted to their own. My point was that it could be implied that I was "objectified" by those specific women but I still took advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:53 PM
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There's women complaining about toxic remarks from men on this forum. I just used that example of women advocating aborting their male children on podcasts to say that it goes both ways. In other words, I'm saying that it's a two-way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:38 AM
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Did I excuse what you were saying? Nope. I just pointed out that both sides have made toxic remarks out of bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:36 AM
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There's live podcasts on Youtube of women preaching about aborting their male children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:26 AM
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Lol....some fat dudes become Stevie Wonder when it comes to mistaking their chubbiness for "muscle" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:22 AM
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Rich people also complain about people only liking them because of their money. And famous people complain about people only liking them because they're famous. I've had some White girls tell me that they "never had a Black guy" before and I still smashed. It's all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:19 AM
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Uh....it's pretty simple. More options = more chances at finding "the right one." It'd be like telling a woman on food stamps that she has just as much chances of eating healthy as a middle class woman who lives near a Whole Foods. Both women have the chance of having a healthy diet but one clearly has an easier time doing it. As far as pickiness goes, men are generally picky when it comes to LTR's and marriages but open-minded towards dating/sex while women are picky in both areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:16 AM
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Even the natives aren't that tall though. I've been to Staten Island before and I never seen so many short White people in one area in my life lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:27 PM
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If a man boasted about his girlfriend by saying "She's not the hottest but she's a great partner." Would you consider that a compliment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:26 PM
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NYC isn't tall. Most major cities aren't particularly tall. The rural/suburban Midwest is the tallest area in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:46 PM
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I also think it's understated how "grown" Gen Z is now. A 24 year old woman is a Zoomer in 2022. By all means, I don't see much 24 year old women freaking out over dating a 30 yr old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 02:19 AM
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But young women who aren't minors still have agency don't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 12:27 AM
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Fit or close to fit(Check) Emotionally stable(Check) At the very least a 6 look wise(I'm 7-8ish so that' generous, Check.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:29 PM
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Yes but I have female friends and exes who are technically Gen Z(22-26).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:24 PM
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Except that was never the real argument. The argument was that men who took care of themselves physically and financially will reap the benefits that come with dating in their 30's. Only PPD women claim that the RP thinks young women are thirsting after Morgan Freeman and Dumbledore in an attempt to reframe the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:21 PM
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I think this needs to be taken with a grain of salt though because Jews and Indians aren't that tall but they're some of the highest earning groups in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:18 PM
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I dunno. I got hit on by literal Karens at one point. Even 2 months ago, I met some older late 40's looking White woman who told me that she never dated a Black guy before then gave me a flirty look. And I was like....."oooookkkayy." I had no interest in her so I just changed the conversation lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:17 PM
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Well, both of you are falling back on anecdotes. And there's a lot of nuance in the mix. A man who's 30-35 and doesn't look like shit can easily attract women in the 20-25 range if he wanted to and many have. I have. He has. And a number of men I know have. At 30-35, men aren't even that old looking yet and can still pass for mid-late 20's guys. And there's other qualities we tend to have that give us an advantage over 20-25 guys. No one is saying that it's the norm. But it's also not this anoma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:13 PM
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Lol....women here are just taking L's without even realizing it. The whole RP argument to this is to reinfornce that if men keep focusing on working out, making more money, and taking good care of themselves they'll be able to have a wider range of options by the time they hit the big 3-0. No credible Red Pill podcaster or coach has ever said that the only thing men needed to do was just cling their fingers and wait until they're older to start becoming casanovas. The fact that the older men you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:06 PM
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Exactly my experience. Also, my brother who's 32 years old is a high school coach and he gets gawked as by girls at the school all the time. PPD women are just having a circle jerk moment with this topic because they can't fathom RP having any type of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:58 PM
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How are we defining old here? No one's saying that Dumbledore or Morgan Freeman look-a-likes are being thirsted over but a lot of young women love the rugged appearances, stability, and experience that many 30+ men bring to the table. Of course, the 30+ guy can't look like a neckbeard or like trash but he'll probably cast a wider net than the 20-25 year old version of himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:54 PM
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What tricks? That some of them find us more mature, experienced, and better looking than men their age? How is that a trick? I've never pulled any tricks when dating younger women, at least none that I'm aware of. This sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:50 PM
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Because you're basically lumping men who prefer younger women and the actual predators within the group together. And you're not fooling anybody with this implication. Also, the implication that the only way that young women can find older men attractive is by having daddy issues or trauma is a huge stretch too. Basically, your whole thread was rooted in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:46 PM
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I say this as a young woman who has always preferred older men, and married one. Hahaha. Men are taking W's left and right in this thread. I love it. I don't even have to say much here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:39 PM
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Knocked it out the park.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:37 PM
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Don't see that irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:35 PM
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Well, women often say that on their own. I'd also agree that maturity has no age limit but a lot of women say that older men are more mature and better lovers from their own experience. It's literally said by women in nearly every woman dominated space online without male input if you won't believe my anecdotes. Quora has verified women answering Q's on there and survey says(read what the female answerers have to say).......... https://www.quora.com/Do-you-like-older-or-younger-men-and-why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:53 AM
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More than that. Many will say we're more mature, better lovers, have better self assurance, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:20 AM
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Women are literally begging men to develop emotional intelligence and communication skills and all you hear is "Women want men who have fucked a lot" Except that's not what I said. I said dating more women gives you more experience and exposure to different dating situations which is definitely valued in women. Case in point, I used to date a girl who was clinically bipolar and had to constantly take meds(lest she get mood swings). It took a lot of learning to know how to handle that. Now, I'm b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:16 AM
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I didn't say it's the norm and it should be noted that the average man over 30 doesn't necessarily chase after young women either. I'm just saying that younger women in the 20-24 range in particular are open to men in the 30-35 range and I've seen that first hand. I would never claim that young women like grandpas or Dumbledore/Morgan Freeman looking men. That's too extreme. But a 30 year old dating a 21 year old or a 34 year old dating a 23 year old isn't that uncommon. Many women(both irl and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:56 PM
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So.....basically human nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:49 PM
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Yup. Being balanced is the key. Being too butch or roughneck looking can actually be a detriment as does looking too femboyish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:47 PM
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As I said in another thread, young women who aren't minors are pretty open to dating men in the 30-35 age range. I experienced it first hand as a 30 year old as did my brother who's 32(but married.) I know PPD women love to be contrarian but I've had younger women complain about men their age right to me and I know my ears aren't playing tricks on me. Edit: Oh wait. It's the same thread. I swear this thread was titled differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:41 PM
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Well, I never said the latter so that's another topic. The majority of men eventually end up with women, usually as a result of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:12 PM
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It's not a stretch. Maybe it's cause I'm Black but I know plenty of men 30-35 who don't look old and crusty and can still appeal to younger women. My brother(32) is a high school basketball coach and he tells me and his wife all the time about how the girls in the school will shoot looks at him or do double takes. And he's not even that handsome. So, if that can happen, then certainly a 30-35 yr old man can appeal to many 18-24 year old women who aren't minors.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:05 PM
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Touche.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:55 PM
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Younger women, consider 15years older, to be grandpa. They think 35y olds are ancient. Bro...we're talking about 18-22 year old women, not minors. A 30-35 year old man could easily bag an 18-22 year old woman if he wanted to. I talk to women in that age range as much as my own and I know how it goes. Obviously, it's not the norm in dating. No one said it was. But, if you're a moderately attractive 30-35 year old man, you shouldn't have much of a problem with that age group. Doubly true for girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:18 PM
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Whoever gets the most results with the least amount of effort is a "Chad." There's plenty of older men who fall into this category even without clubs and bars involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:20 PM
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I'm in the 2nd category. This is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:17 PM
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Do you want me to post numerous threads from different websites including Reddit where actual women themselves confess that they find older men to be more attractive, mature, and romantic than guys their age. I'm not even saying anything radical because I already said that young women aren't going for grandpas or dudes who look like Dumbledore. But many young women themselves find dudes 5-15 years older than them more attractive, experienced, mature, and stable than guys their own age. Red Pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:06 PM
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This is cap and comes across as slightly bitter because you want to win an argument against RPers. It's common for younger women to complain about young men and see older men in a better light. I don't necessarily mean grandfathers but men who are at least 5-15 years older than them. You must live in a parallel universe if you don't think 18-22 year old women would go for a 30 year old man. I'm 30 and it's no big deal dating younger women. To keep it real, younger women will often gas us up more…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:01 PM
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Depends on the society. I'd imagine in places like Russia, the Philippines, and the Dominican Republic, it's not as stigmatized as the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:49 PM
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It's just funny to me how women treat weak, anti-social, and undesirable men as punching bags in so many dating discussions. Women got more smoke than a chimney for dweebs on Reddit complaining about dating woes, "scrotes", and "nice guys" than men who are constantly passing women around like a dinner plate and contributing to the out of wedlock birth crisis and dysfunctional relationships that plague society today. At least when RPers circle jerk about feminazis, there's proof of feminazi influ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:00 AM
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Look at all the downvotes. I didn't even cape for men with my post. I just said that women accusing men of avoiding accountability is hilariously ironic given the tons of arguments feminists make that blame the "patriarchy" for everything wrong with society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:11 PM
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A lot of people on both sides are POS. Not sure why you would disagree. Nobody capes for the wrongdoings of straight men in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:54 PM
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More violent thugs sleep with multiple women than dweebs on Reddit. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:09 PM
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