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Are you familiar with Larry Elder? If not, I hope you will consider his viewpoint on this.
/r/MGTOW220/01/20 09:25 AM
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Thank you for your message. I am very glad it reached you and give you some new perspective. You sound very very much like me in my early 20's. I don't think I should go into my own story apart from saying that I too suffered from severe periods of deep depression and contemplating suicide was on the menu as well. I'm in my mid 30's now and have been able to deal with my complex array of mental health issues and am back at going forward in my life to a direction I choose myself. Let me tell you …
/r/MGTOW216/01/20 10:08 AM
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Everyone knows/defines what success means to them, which is what I mean by success, i.e. it depends on what the person wants to achieve.
/r/MGTOW216/01/20 08:52 AM
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First of all, thank you very much for you suspending the default defensiveness that all of us have when a countering point of view is presented. I'm very glad I did not write the above in vain. Secondly, I want to stress that I don't claim to be right and too well studied even I have done much for it - A lot of my position still rests on idealizations and beliefs as I have not embarked upon any degree of rigorous study of the relevant science involved. I question your belief that people can chan…
/r/MGTOW215/01/20 03:22 PM
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Catholic priests and the deviancy of some of them does not represent monastic communities worldwide as a whole. Look into actual monk brotherhoods, not some pedophiles who integrate into Catholicism as there are parts of that organization that actually guards such activities and is somehow connected with elite pedophilia rings (Epstein and related web of high level criminality). That is not a fair estimation. Look into Buddhists monks for example and see tons of other brotherhoods that are celib…
/r/MGTOW215/01/20 12:55 PM
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I use soldiers as example as I was in a highly demanding branch myself. The only time masturbation occurred was when there lengthy, boring periods were spent around barracks, i.e. theory training, all those basics etc. Nobody masturbated when we were out on the field or had more active training periods. You simply don't want the loss of energy, vital nutrients and increasing cortisol you get from masturbation when you are dealing with ACTUAL stress. There are TON of masturbation related jokes li…
/r/MGTOW215/01/20 09:20 AM
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If you read my post you'll understand my logic. And from that, including my responses, you can see that I have put very much thought in this topic before I ever typed a response to you. And no. Orgasms are not medically necessary.
/r/MGTOW215/01/20 08:27 AM
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"The first game where women make more than men" Hilarious how untrue that slogan is.
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 07:22 PM
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PS. Those who are most adamant of victimhood (of themselves or others) despise virtue and people who strive for virtue. The classical societies of Antiquity did not consider "victims" as a class. It was simple. You either strove for virtue, which lead to success of at least decent amount to the degree of your actual virtue, or you deserved your fate.
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 06:26 PM
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If you look at the lived lives of ALL people who were radically successful in whatever they did... ... It was ALWAYS 100% the content of their character. The only debate there is is whether some "communities" have more opportunity than others. And from a non-Marxist point of view, inequality is more determined by nation than social class (or the "Neo-Marxist" class of victimhood) if we are speaking globally, which I think is true as virtually any Westerner in the world has tons of more potential…
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 06:23 PM
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Masturbation is not important nor medically necessary or particularly beneficial... ... Unless perhaps your role in life resembles an animal in captivity https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/emp015/excess_vitality_being_horny_causing_problems/
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 04:41 PM
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Read couple of subsections and skimmed through a few more.... Seems really interesting and worth reading. Thanks for sharing!
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 11:06 AM
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Came to see was this already expressed here and it was. As men are banned from expressing their negative side, the female negativity can run rampart, unchecked in today's society being perpetuated precisely because the removal of its natural counter balance.
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 10:32 AM
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZiJS8JWjM Notice how the interview starts with the British biographer describing Harry being upset and not himself for other reasons, almost hinting of being manipulated etc. and see how quickly the American hosts turn it to the race "problems" and start painting the biographer being a racist herself and thus waste all the interview time to not think about HER point of view but to spew their own propaganda angle.... Sigh.
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 07:46 AM
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Wait.... What? I only paid brief attention on the whole thing when they got together and just assumed it was for good, but her still not being satisfied and even heading for the divorce rape? Now I need to know more.
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 07:35 AM
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Well, if you look around, the socielite elites are some of the most infected with the PC disease, so it's no wonder it is toppling royal families now who've been traditionally been able to resist short term waves of political propaganda.
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 07:27 AM
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Thanks for the confirmation. However how you described prostate being "stagnant" on monks (like it was a bad thing) and "you basically have to fap 2-4 times a week to clear out the problematic compounds" didn't make intuitive sense to me. I don't think that human animal in the wild - if you think of your Neolithic hunter-gatherer would have ejaculated all that often. The pro-sex movement is trying to paint the prehistoric era as some sort of blissful Bonobo orgy where people just banged around f…
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 06:56 AM
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You are most welcome brother! I don't think I've ever received simple thanks like this and finally understand why some content creators keep doing their thing.
/r/MGTOW214/01/20 06:01 AM
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I've stumbled upon a few people who have advocated avoiding masturbation precisely from the semen retention perspective and have found them and the whole angle to it very sensible. Semen retention as an idea has helped me in the past veering off from ejaculation and which I personally want to strive for in the future in sex as ejaculation has always been extremely taxing for my mental and physical well being. That being said, perhaps I'll give the post another edition including some of the respo…
/r/MGTOW211/01/20 03:08 PM
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Haha, would have missed that pun if you hadn't pointed it out. I was thinking of why not take monks to the third group, but I guess it wouldn't be "fair" as to the test subjects should be selected from same pool of men with different instructions to create the most objective test possible. In some other response here I mentioned never hearing monastic communities having elevated risk of prostate cancer and thus being skeptical of the fap-to-avoid-cancer argument. By your comment I assume there h…
/r/MGTOW211/01/20 03:01 PM
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Thank you for the information. Is there really just one study that the whole ejaculation is good for prostate idea comes from?
/r/MGTOW211/01/20 12:54 PM
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You are absolutely free to quote any of my writing in this post and custom tailor it with that community. A lot of meat of the matter is also in the replies so it could be the best to pick up best bits into a new whole. No attribution back to me is needed.
/r/MGTOW211/01/20 12:49 PM
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Excellent point! I have personally experienced that when I have successfully veered off from the dopamine addiction of porn (also by getting my dopamine from better avenues) and masturbating to it during a longer streak, the urge i.e. just general sex drive is MUCH easier to deal with - This is when the sex drive becomes quite easy to convert into any other activity needing intense energy. Dopamine addiction is a whole different beast entirely from this and yes, it is very annoying and has to be…
/r/MGTOW211/01/20 12:46 PM
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It takes time to learn to manage the most powerful urge a human can have. For me it has taken YEARS of conscious effort and I am still on my way of getting better at it. I used to be completely dominated by the addiction, could not do anything productive, had periods of depression and anxiety. Now I feel good about myself, moving ahead in life and can manage it most of the time. We have different starting points and for some it is easier than others. I do not believe any man is hopeless. It just…
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 07:11 PM
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Yes. However following feelings is very often not the best thing to do in life, especially if one wants to excel in life. Ability to delay gratification (not following immediate pleasure) is highly correlated with success.
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 07:00 PM
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Exactly right! It is one of those vicious cycles that once fixed will make life exponentially better. I also believe that a life lived with more vitality will translate into healthier retirement due to having stronger body, being happier for having lived fuller, having been able to deal with stress in a healthy way etc.
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 04:45 PM
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In the OP I described that in animals who are physically able to masturbate, masturbation has been observed almost completely exclusively in captivity. An animal that lives in the wild is busy eating, exploring/defending its territory and competing on their status with the others so that once they master their space and place within their species they are set to copulate. Animals that live in captivity are deprived from all of the above with no work required for food either so they are left with…
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 04:42 PM
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I agree with this completely apart from easier being manipulated part which in my book comes down to how you set your values, how mature you are, the amount of self respect you have etc. Those men who have developed and established themselves as men are the most solid human objects in the world, while on the other hand those young and insecure can indeed be manipulated with a piece of pussy to do or give up anything. So yes, in the latter case I do agree that it increases the risk, but if we loo…
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 04:22 PM
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So much better having excess than being one of the slugs!
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 04:12 PM
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I relate to this very much and practice NF with the best of my abilities. The whole goal of the OP is to open this idea that sexual urges, over time with practice at least, can be successfully managed and utilized better than just being a slave to them and resolving the situation with escorts, bad relationships or porn. If I did not have my past experience in challenging military service at the age of peak T and having spent so much time practically living a more "high octane" male existence wit…
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 02:11 PM
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If only your assumption was right, but I am among the horniest men I have ever met. I know the absolute demon of a feeling of being horny way too well. My problem with busting my nuts is that it drains my vitality so much that I feel like shit. Only after significant conscious work I've learned to stop listening to that demon and instead pay full attention to where I want my energies to go toward. Some men don't have this problem of losing most of their drive to propel their lives forward after …
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 10:42 AM
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Here's one more option: Learn about "sexual transmutation" i.e. realize that your sexual energy / horniness doesn't need to be expressed or expended via sexual means (whether it is masturbation or sex). The reality is that when you just take the extra energized feeling you have for sex and expend it otherwise, for example via physical exercise or through cognitive work such as any creative endeavors or scientific pursuits (which too demand a big deal of this same energy), you can deal with the i…
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 09:44 AM
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Be very careful about sharing your plans, goals and ideas... Doing so usually takes some "psychological tension" out of them, which is why people feel the need to blabber about their plans and ideas in the first place... It's the deflation of this tension that translates into hesitation through weakened motivation, that tension of joy and inspiration to act on those goals. Far few people are able to listen to an idea of another and add more fire to it. Those rare few possess true leadership and …
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 09:06 AM
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Thanks for the recommendation, I will check it out!
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 01:21 PM
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As you wrote with clarity, effort and cohesion, I'll respond in kind. First of all I agree that I would most certainly not want, if I had children of my own to be in a group like boy scouts, of whose leader was gay. In this way I do agree with subversion that is too much of a risk for a young mind. A second point I agree with you, as my only knowledge on any of his material is the audiobook version of the title I mentioned, he does come heavily across "rah rah I'm a macho man" as you expressed. …
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 08:30 AM
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Yes! I especially find his term "the Bugman" such a great depiction of the average male and through which it is highly explanatory of what's wrong with the modern world. I agree with BAP that such weakness in men is the reason why feminism and bad kind of liberalism (and the weakened conservatism with plenty of bugmen in it too) has taken over and takes over and corrupts every possible area of human life. What makes BAM/BAP great is the flaming desire you get to grow a stronger spine.
/r/MGTOW221/12/19 04:23 PM
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I hope you'll come back with some kind of a list!
/r/MGTOW221/12/19 04:18 PM
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Cheers!
/r/MGTOW221/12/19 08:57 AM
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r/MGTOW_books doesn't exist ??
/r/MGTOW221/12/19 08:34 AM
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Who said taking it easy and owning your own time cannot be a goal?
/r/MGTOW213/12/19 11:18 AM
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Nihilism indeed is the root definition. The way I defeated my Nihilism, which is defined by lack of belief into anything, is that I decided that even though I don't believe in anything, there is one thing I need to believe and that was myself. That is when I stopped being a doomer.
/r/MGTOW228/11/19 06:03 PM
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By taking a deep introspective journey into what really matters to you and envisioning what you want to achieve in life and what means the most for you. Be extremely honest about it and strip away all the influence other people have on you and only look into your heart/soul/seat of your character to see what you really want to do in this life you have. Once you have that figured out it's a breeze to make goals that lead to those outcomes. Planning milestones that are deeply meaningful for you an…
/r/MGTOW228/11/19 06:00 PM
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Be smart and start putting at least 10% of your income aside, even if you don't have a faintest clue what to do with it. The future you will thank you for it. The future you will also laugh at being worried about being too late to start almost anything at 23. I'm in my mid thirties and about to start a self lead and independent career in art from scratch (I do have skills in near-by fields though that somewhat translate). I too used to worry about things like that when I was in my early 20's. Yo…
/r/MGTOW228/11/19 05:48 PM
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Oh yeah, I totally get it what you mean there... To be an MRA you need to be very professional on everything about it in order to be taken half seriously.
/r/MGTOW220/11/19 02:42 PM
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Yes it is. I didn't know what it meant until I hit 32+ when I realized what it feels like to feel your mortality in your body, be more tired, not so amped up etc.
/r/MGTOW220/11/19 02:40 PM
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I mostly agree with this... Academic professionalism might have been there in a form that there haven't been academic professionalism to counter feminist ideas though as a counter weight to the ideas feminists have conjured. But that's pretty universal to any academic field where a set of novel ideas overtake the related fields while counter theories take their own time to develop to counter the issue until a happy middle is found. Gynocentrism, at least in my view, has helped to push irrational…
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 12:19 PM
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One of the problems of this audience is that once your rage or sorrow or whatever burns out, you might find yourself in a situation where you have given all your fucks away and it all becomes a sort of theater show for you at best. I see the individual vs. society as sort of a drama where one can realize there's no need to wear that mask to even play the game at all. MGTOW men just stop giving a damn in many of the cases and just end up taking care of their own business while letting the ever pe…
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 12:13 PM
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In your 30's you'll feel for the first time that you are actually going to die People in their 20's still think they are immortal as their cells regenerate faster than what dies away. The cells not being able to regen, we hit all kinds of walls and along the line that ultimate wall. Enjoy while it lasts.
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 12:04 PM
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Think in evolutionary terms... If I was a woman, I'd try my best to stay in good terms with a semi-psycho/sociopath so that he would have a high chance to fuck up anything in the dangerous and harsh external world. These hard wirings are ancient and are still triggering sexual instincts. The thing is that we are talking about impulses when it comes to acting on the base instincts. Some people live lives of reacting and engaging with every impulse, while others dominate over them with later devel…
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 12:00 PM
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Relationships are simple. Engage with those whose company you like. Disengage from those who you don't like. If someone you like turns out to be or becomes someone you don't like, see above. You are an adult, you can choose.
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 04:23 PM
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Use your job to build capital, then use a portion of that capital to turn it to whatever you need to do next. A LOT of complacency is because people don't collect enough "fuck you money". i.e. they go day by day suffering a job they are not passionate about, but too comfortable with the perks that are security on having roof on top of your head for sure as well as all kinds of modern luxuries... People spend their money on increasing their lifestyle as soon as they get more money. This keeps the…
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 04:20 PM
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Hey, that's great - Keep it up!
/r/MGTOW201/10/19 04:12 PM
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Much of what old people regret is not taking more risks and having all the experiences they could have had. I had tons of fun with women in my early 20's. It doesn't have to be as serious as many people make it out to be here. I mean... You obviously have to manage risks a lot, especially if you live in the US (which I don't). Regardless of all the MGTOW reasons to keep distance, I generally like women and their company if it's sparse enough. Being completely withdrawn for me isn't really "livin…
/r/MGTOW216/09/19 01:11 PM
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I can understand bondage somewhat, but have never really understood any of the pain elements. When it comes to sex I'd much rather have it slow and long (Tantric) than hardcore. I've been thinking lately it would be really cool to borrow a bit from that community in a way that another person would have to sort of play a "human sex doll" to another and one could do whatever they wanted to the doll... The idea is also that the doll wasn't really there as a witness so it would somewhat ease the jud…
/r/MGTOW207/09/19 09:15 AM
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I have experience across Europe in quite different countries, but limited to women under 33 years of age. It's all been very uniform in how FB and FWB relationships form. What do you mean by being sniped?
/r/MGTOW207/09/19 09:04 AM
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Ehh, I have pirated the book myself if that answers your question.
/r/MGTOW207/09/19 08:52 AM
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What's your kink by the way if you don't mind me asking?
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 02:13 PM
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I have virtually no experience of women over 33 so I really can't tell. If we strictly isolate this to age, then I suppose your observation, considering the wall as well sounds very plausible for being generally true. Though there are tons of women whose sex drive only really starts post 30-year-old mark and especially if they've already had kids at a very young age, they might not give a damn if you are seeing other women as long as you kept on feeding the itch. Also if the woman has some pathe…
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 02:11 PM
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Well yes, that's definitely the other way to go! There's always that odd chance that she gets the baby rabies having that possibility within her, but again, those with good mother qualities might be far more likely to want to keep it so... It's always a gamble. What I mostly meant is your ability to deal with her if she indeed becomes a mother of your child. Some women would be nice and easy to deal with while others would be a nightmare.
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 01:59 PM
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Different men have vastly different starting points when it comes to this. If you are socially awkward, don't have a social life, have been heavily BP programmed, aren't generally attractive to almost any women at least when you start out.... Needless to say it's going to be a bigger ordeal to get to the place where you can even start to be in a position where you can have FWB relationships. On the other hand, a man who has a social life, is an avid gym goer, has good health, has high Testostero…
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 01:50 PM
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Wouldn't it be pretty easy for a man from your country just visit another EU country and go to a private clinic to get the procedure done if need be? I'm worried about STD's, but my biggest worry is getting a woman pregnant by accident and her desire to keep the child - You might want to consider filtering sexual partners for good mother qualities just in the odd chance of it happening. Wouldn't want a totally wrong kind of woman you couldn't deal with have your child.
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 01:29 PM
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A fair and good warning indeed! Can you imagine that so many people are doing it in the pull out method without the slightest concern about STD's? It's insane. You are very correct on sex always being a gamble. There are several factors that are under your influence of control while being totally safe is to not have sex unless you are committed with a woman who is very unlikely to cheat and you've had her do full STD tests. Even then there's a chance she could cheat on you etc. I am concerned ab…
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 01:26 PM
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Tell me about it, it took my entire 20's to figure these out to the depth of my current understanding. There are tons of other things I could write about, but nobody would read such long posts so if you have something to ask, feel free to send a PM my way!
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 01:16 PM
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Interesting. I don't think there's much at all difference between different scenes as long as we are talking about mainly modern and Westernized societies. These dynamics are pretty universal between men and women. Obviously there are exceptions to everything too, but generally I've found these to apply to every relationship I've had.
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 01:15 PM
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I definitely hear you! This is why Step #1 and understanding it in advance is so important. Most relationship problems stem from the man being unwilling to walk away from the relationship whenever it needs to be done. This gives women leverage to eventually behave in all sorts of bad ways, cross boundaries and lose all their respect for the man. Every woman tests the man she's with and cannot help it. Usually males take other people by their words and watch for actions for integrity whether the …
/r/MGTOW206/09/19 10:41 AM
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Just recently got a Fleshlight. Surprisingly good. I just do FWB every now and then when I find someone I want to keep having sex with. Being up front about everything actually helps instead of harms you. Most men don't understand that truth and directness is pretty damn sexy to women. If you openly tell them you are seeing other women and that you are not relationship material to them, you can watch them become very friendly and catering towards you. Men who try to present a provider image get …
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 09:10 AM
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Good info. I'd just like to point out that you can do similar with non-sex worker women (obviously depends where you live a little bit). What I mean is to be up front of seeing other women straight from the beginning. Those who are offended will be screened out while those that find the idea of a man doing whatever the fuck he wants stay for the ride. Those gals are usually very good FWB material as they aren't looking for exclusivity and ownership... Or they are, but either try to win you over …
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 09:03 AM
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start doing things alone-going to cinema Shit. For all the years I've been very independent minded I actually never thought of that. And upon thinking about it, it sounds absolutely great. No hassle with whatever BS before the movie. No need to articulate your experience or listen to someone after. Can savor the experience in peace. Wonderful. Its in their nature to become nagging, crying, controling creatures. Females cant do anything about it. You can get the most clever, warmhearted, total an…
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 08:51 AM
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Exactly. Aversion of foreigners is actually a pretty good thing for a culture, unlike the Politically Correct Cultural Fascists tell you. MGTOW is born out of aversion to the PC idiocy and anyone here should know better to understand what is really behind the friendly words and labeling others hateful. There's a difference of hatred of foreigners and aversion of them, which the social police doesn't recognize. And speaking of "social police", the US will probably see some kind of version of that…
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 08:37 AM
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I haven't visited, but the Czech Republic is hardly a shithole. I doubt that they are having rotting infrastructure with entire cities abandoned.
/r/MGTOW205/09/19 08:27 AM
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I'm really happy you had that epiphany! It makes my day to have this point come across successfully because it can really help other men get a better grip of their lives. It's really a night and day difference when you compare being empty sacked and used up vs. buzzing full of virile energy. There's also a clear difference whether it was just pixels on the screen and your hand vs. having sex with a real woman you wanted to have sex with. After great sex you often feel even better, while fapping …
/r/MGTOW231/08/19 10:42 AM
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Telling others to smoke a cigarette upon stress is a perfect metaphor as it's very similar in so many ways. While smoking causes cancer and expedites mortality rates, you don't get so much harm from it in the short run than wasting away your semen. The area of what we actually lose via not recuperating semen back into our bodies is still under research, but when you think about how costly it is nutritionally to manufacture millions of cells along with the fluids that go along with it... I rememb…
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 01:04 PM
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Indeed - And if you think about it, being truly adult and mature means that you are able to be yourself and enjoy the things you really like irregardless of what you think others think about you... That's still somewhere in between and not really a fully matured person.
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 12:46 PM
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Well, then you know it's mostly make belief. What I've done with the whole thing is that I always think in terms of Net Worth. If I have no debt and have savings and investments, but live on rent near city center and don't even have a car, I am far richer than someone who is in debt with a big house and couple of cars, which are in reality just liabilities and not assets... They are assets to the bank that leverages their credit in the market to make big bucks off their backs... I pity those peo…
/r/MGTOW230/08/19 12:29 PM
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Sounds great - Go for it!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 10:02 PM
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"With the 2012 acquisition of Lucasfilm by The Walt Disney Company, most of the licensed Star Wars novels and comics produced since the originating 1977 film Star Wars were rebranded as Star Wars Legends and declared non-canon in April 2014." So apparently, the non-Disney sanctioned "Star Wars Legends", what I linked, should be what you are looking for :)
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 08:29 PM
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There seems to be tons of Star Wars novels: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_books#Star_Wars_Legends Probably best to start looking into the older ones that are meant for adult readers.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 08:27 PM
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Take the clown pill - You'll get a few extra colors on top of that and you'll still be laughing even if you got caught!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:56 PM
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I came to upvote this comment.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:55 PM
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“The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.” - Morpheus
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:52 PM
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We're here to support you brother!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:47 PM
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I was bullied a little bit in school, well.. not really, I was just called by my physical traits, ginger, red head etc. it made me anxious and eager to people please which has been locked into my identity and the way I act and react to things that happen to me. It’s why I’m still obsessed with being desirable to women, very hard to shake, in fact I’ve never shaken it and all the times I’ve felt truly happy were whilst getting validation from women I can relate to this - I was always the skinny k…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:43 PM
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I agree with you! If you look at some of the greatest contributors in the history of science (and other fields important to society and humanity at large) many of them weren't family men at all.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:35 PM
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Great to hear!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:31 PM
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I have a citizenship in an EU country and been thinking about getting another one in some South American country that is geopolitically far away from any "hot zones" as backup. Haven't really decided upon which one yet, going to travel later in the region to find out which countries I like most between a handful of them.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:30 PM
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If you want to read about it from more serious angles, go to yourbrainonporn.com or see the talks on YT that go by the same name. Not ejaculating to porn has been one of my most important practical achievements that has had positive effects in my life. It took me a long time to get through the initial difficulties, but it was worth it. I have to stress that initially you might have very difficult time managing your horniness, which is the opposite of what you wanted with the post, but at least f…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:28 PM
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Roosh is very Red Pilled these days bordering on MGTOW. Game is written post metoo and it cautions about the same things MGTOW does so it's a particularly good fit for MGTOW guys who want to keep messing around with women. The greatest thing is how simple and practical it is as you basically filter for women who are already naturally attracted to you instead of bothering to "create attraction" on ones that don't fancy you in the first place for one reason or another. Obviously you have to presen…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 07:24 PM
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I would like to add that if you haven't been ejaculation free for at least 2 weeks and preferably a month, you haven't really tried it as you haven't really seen any difference in practice other than the initial extra horniness that comes with the territory. You are right to doubt all the hyped out benefits as for most the contrast between their dopamine deprived state and having their levels restored isn't going to be as radical as it is for some of the most hardcore evangelists who shouldn't t…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 06:29 PM
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I'd start looking into the imaginary worlds you built in that peaceful space for clues. In other words, it's not always external activities or specific objects, but the substance of the play and the imagination of the child that deserves to be revisited. You could start trying to memorize what your games were about, where did you go in your imagination and what kind of things you enjoyed to imagine via your toys.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 06:24 PM
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I'm first to admit NF "marketing" has gotten completely out of hand. However, I was suffering from porn addiction and could not help myself even if I tried. Ejaculating too much affected every area of my life negatively robbing energy from me and putting me into bad mood. It's all simple really and the very same as any other dopamine triggering addiction. If your dopamine levels are chronically low, you live a life that is a mere shadow of what you could have. Dopamine is the get things done / f…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 06:15 PM
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Game by Roosh V is a great read. Not the regular kind of PUA material that makes you do things that aren't congruent with your personality. It's the "least invasive" book about getting women I know.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 06:09 PM
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Good to hear you have something to draw from as well... Over the last few years I've been able to get a lot of it back.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 06:07 PM
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Is that the most relevant question possible you can ask? Smells like troll spirit.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 06:05 PM
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I hope you are having a good time brother!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:57 PM
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I concur - I've previously written on the sub that I think human males are the power sex that does all the adapting and makes things happen, where the female is the sex that makes offspring happen. Women by nature take what men offer - Men by nature make things happen so they can offer it to the females. Men build the nests so they can attract a female to couple with. Sometimes it's other types of protection and aid the male provides to indicate the investment of the female, i.e. an egg and the …
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:51 PM
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Amen.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:43 PM
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most people absolutely cannot stand themselves and being alone with their own thoughts terrifies them - DangZagnut This one aspect is often what's different between a BP and RP person. People who choose BP do not want to get started when it comes down to the rabbit hole of their own inner self. The journey to self actualize, to be who you are is not an easy thing to do - It's a lifetime of potential adversity compared to all the ease that is offered to continue living life dictated by someone el…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:41 PM
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Almost the same with me except minus sister and plus a step mother who is in contact when she needs something - There's always agenda and worse yet, it's always veiled manipulation or extortion. She flipped one Christmas when I didn't automatically do something she expected me to do and I went back at her that she could easily ask me to do something simply via using normal everyday reason and basic good will to motivate me instead of going all sorts of elaborations to manipulate me to do somethi…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:27 PM
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I was bullied too. My point is that before we hit puberty, we do things strictly for our own interest. When we hit puberty, we start feverishly fitting ourselves to the sexual hierarchy and often filter our activities and likes based on what our peers find acceptable and often sacrifice our own interest along the way up to adulthood by the time we often forget our own interests and passions. I could have spent time on coming up with all the negative things in my childhood which were plentiful, b…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:15 PM
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lol
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:04 PM
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Care to elaborate? The point of my post is to reconnect with what you loved to do or at least with what you wanted to do and couldn't.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 04:03 PM
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'Within my lifetime' is an estimated 60-70 years, so plenty of time for developments in any direction. I didn't mean just around the corner. And that's not even about external tensions... but civil wars from unchecked immigration of incompatible cultures getting out of hand, that sort of thing. Sure thing. 60 years is a long time in the Modern world! It's exactly why I've NOT anchored myself to where I live and done everything I can to keep my assets as mobile as possible. If/when the socio-econ…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 03:47 PM
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In that case you are living the childhood dream of being free from those conditions and doing whatever the F you want so you are already there! Haha
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 03:28 PM
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Yup. Comfort and complacency, which eventually becomes stale just like any stagnant bodies of water. Relationships are much better when you both keep your own place as it contains the possibility of the other walking away from it at any moments notice. Any time complacency hits you can just start seeing someone else. It keeps both on their toes. And when you think about it, the whole thing is nothing but a nesting instinct. Men aren't made to nest for years on end - We need to move to new huntin…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 02:46 PM
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My point being, GYOW should be based on the fact that we have one life to live, and we better do our damn best to live it the best we can. GYOW is based on exactly that. Personally, it’s time I took accountability. I have let myself down, I have broken my own heart. No woman did that to me. I did it to myself. ... And it requires this exact realization to begin GYOW. Great post overall. I hope it gives some of the guys here the same epiphanies you've just had!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 02:29 PM
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I concur. Also, for every bad thing that's happening you can find tons of very promising developments. This is especially true if you look at science and technology in the 10-20 years window. I was depressed about IOT and increasing surveillance until I learned about cryptocurrency protocols likely becoming the infrastructure under the Web 3.0 - Developers are highly aware of the current problems and eager to restore the freedom back that the big monopolies currently abuse. Right now we are in a…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 02:23 PM
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Play EFT.
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 02:09 PM
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Very interesting observation - I'm going to put it to use and look for it myself from now on!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 01:42 PM
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Couple months ago I got finally successful with NoFap. I've been trying to quit ejaculating to porn for many years, even before NF was a thing because I noticed it was behind all my social anxiety, depression and lack of energy and motivation. Been 70+ days without an ejaculation with just one accident in between. The whole thing has changed my whole relationship with the feeling of being horny. Previously I just HAD TO beat it off upon the slightest feeling of having too much libido in my syste…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 01:39 PM
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To complete the lottery winning / wealth analogy, what's the alternative to being "wealthy" with women if you don't win the lottery of finding "The One"? You have to chart what a relationship actually does mean to you... Is it better self esteem? Fuzzy feelings? Awesome memories down the line? What is it that you are really after to which the ideal woman is just an object to attain it? It's something emotionally based that you currently feel only a woman can give you. In truth, you can find out …
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 09:24 AM
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Life isn't fair and it isn't easy. You've internalized these naive ideas and it's time to grow up. You know it - That's why you are here. Part of why you are so down is that you think other people are just endlessly lucky in their lives while you are the only one who seems to have it against you. Blue Pillers live in the convenience land where they take every easy branch that feels good in the present moment. You being here shows that you are at least questioning the validity of always choosing …
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 09:18 AM
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I just wanted to be on the same level as my friends and not feel beneath them. You feel being beneath them likely because of perceived social status. You've kept mentioning how they have ways to make more money than you and that they are planning travel etc. ... And they have the girlfriends. You know, in my world, if a guy has a girlfriend, I personally see him usually lower status than myself simply because I have freedom of access to bigger number of women. My options are open and I'm sociall…
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 08:40 AM
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Cheers!
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 08:10 AM
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My friends are all marrying attractive women and talking about having attractive and smart children, traveling the world, making lots of money and doing lots of fun things. I've heard that so many times from people talking in their honeymoon phase... I guess some rare few couples actually go ahead and do it, but it's the ones who are composed of rather powerful people with very rare harmony between the two. Most of the time it is so easy to be excited and talk the talk beforehand and within the …
/r/MGTOW229/08/19 08:04 AM
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:(
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 06:52 PM
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I chuckled on that one. Wasn't a bad joke at all!
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 05:22 PM
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Philosophy to some, garbage to another. Nothing new under the sun.
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 03:24 PM
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You got the point of my post, Sir! Once you realize the bigger perspective on these things and realize you are doing things the way they've always been done (and for a reason!), you are that much more powerful in your own position. And can also relax knowing that people will eventually come around and start seeking those who did not go wrong in the first place.
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 03:24 PM
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Specialization is for insects ;)
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 03:20 PM
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Indeed - I'm a big proponent of science and the philosophy of positivism and at the same time all my research has never disproved ideas about abstract elements forming tensions and oppositions in the pure abstract of cognition - The same rules apply in human nature as in external nature and it's rather foolish to think that our cognition is wholly separate from the external nature. Thinking that we are above the observable nature as a thought is philosophically possible, but in my opinion in pra…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 03:19 PM
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I'm glad you understood it and found it useful. When it comes to people needing to hear it and willing to hear it it's a two different things completely. What I suggest most of the time implies a lot of work and pre-selection in terms of the listener already having a set of perceptions and experiences. It's nothing new or differing from countless philosophers and psychologists who empathize on full individuation and observations on how the sexes operate naturally via experience. Most people are …
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 03:04 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law Have fun!
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 02:45 PM
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everything seems to be closing in on the happy ending Happy ending? Wtf. Life continues onward after the Happy Ending i.e. marriage and kids... ... Which is precisely where the last thing they expect: Complacency, boredom, bad sex, routine etc. starts to eat either one up like it was a black hole being born in their perfect little suburban back yard. Either that or they are both some damn predictable boring robot people who wouldn't notice their partner having gone through a lobotomy. Your probl…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 02:15 PM
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my friends are all on the upward trajectory to get married RIP That'll be the end of them.
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 02:00 PM
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You are welcome brother! Mature Men can easily manage themselves and be well in any environment. All is needed is to keep ones own power and sovereignty and not share it needlessly or bleed it on others. Once you can keep yourself intact and stable - And either award or withdraw your presence and attention accordingly, you can be at peace in all female groups. Everyone loves the attention of a mature Man who is almost completely stable in his emotional core. He is like a compass for everyone els…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 01:24 PM
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Solid stuff overall, commenting here to be cautious of Veganism as if you get into any sensible anti-Vegan content, you'll discover quite a lot of deficiencies and other problems devout Vegans are too biased to consider. Many vegans develop quite severe health issues over many years of not consuming any animal products. The truth is that vegan diet is very hard to follow in a way that you get all the stuff your body needs. There are a whole host of vitamins and amino-acids along with key lipids …
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 12:44 PM
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In my mid 30's with 8 months relationship being my longest (and worst) ever. Cannot complain! Feeling better each day while at the same time watching all my friends with girlfriends/wives/family suffer. most of them aren't worth the stress There are only very few actually good women out there. The rest of them are just like politicians.
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 12:06 PM
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Eat well, get ripped, feel good, use condoms and enjoy your freedom!
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 12:01 PM
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Hello my young brother! You said elsewhere that you are 18 years old. I am assuming also that you had a very strictly religious upbringing. First of all, contrary to most here, I'm not going to tell you to fap. I fapped a lot and it ended up messing my life quite a bit. People prescribe fapping very casually these days without really realizing the cost of it. I'm now 70+ days without ejaculating with just one accident in between and I've almost never felt better. What makes your situation diffic…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 11:52 AM
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What if I told you that women have always been like this as this is their nature? Women aren't meant to operate well in high majority groups. As men have competitive hierarchy where the top echelon positions are contested sometimes fiercely, women have something similar. Women are currently brainwashed into a cult where they only believe good and soft things about themselves. All of MSM believes into unlimited benevolence and purrrfection of the female just because pvssy. When you look at social…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 11:18 AM
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When I've been living abroad, I've fond myself to be excited and interested in a place for about 6 months until it starts to become stale. I've witnessed people having wildly different windows of interest depending largely on how they tend to interact with the place, the people in it and the activities they do... Do not listen to the preferences of others. Some people want to stay put their whole lives for GENERATIONS Some people want to wander each and every day in their lives and never sleep i…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 10:04 AM
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Hmmm... When I ate my first red pills almost 20 years ago I also lost any enthusiasm for watching sports. I started seeing it as an activity of men who were just vicariously enjoying the related feelings of it, but ultimately saw them just as bunch of losers being emotional on the trials of OTHER MEN. However if you practice some specific sport YOURSELF, I see nothing wrong being a fan of that sport so much so that you watch others do it in order to learn things and just for the love of that spo…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 09:59 AM
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One of the final things for me was to stop ejaculating too often. Over 70 days without ejaculation with just one accident in between. I had a problem of using it as a crutch whenever I was anxious, bored or to mask any other bad feeling. The problem was that it made me depressed, feel weak and anti-social. Now I'm having such an easy time staying motivated for the gym, perform really well in there with some new PR's. Also I feel like I'm part of the scene and easily have great conversations with…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 09:55 AM
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Making good decisions for yourself is a great point. Even if you "miss out" in the moment, when those people are gone the next day you always thank yourself and feel great about yourself.
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 09:48 AM
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Golden age of dating.... BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT Your story is the story of almost ANY nice guy with no experience in his youth. What this correlates most often is: A) Single mother who raises the boy to be extra nice (or just super nice father with domineering mother) B) Too much porn and masturbation to keep the guy feeling weak, meek and low in sexual hierarchy C) Too little exercise, lifting weights, etc. anything physically m…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 09:45 AM
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attach extremely powerful emotions to any girl that shows the slightest interest. This powerful emotion causes them to worship and ultimately turn off every girl they encounter. This is almost ANY nice guy with no experience though. It does not have to do anything with the looks of the man. What it does correlate often is: A) Single mother who raises the boy to be extra nice (or just super nice father with domineering mother) B) Too much porn and masturbation to keep the guy feeling weak and mee…
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 09:29 AM
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Cheers brother!
/r/MGTOW228/08/19 09:15 AM
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Sorry for the delay to answer. Never done deficits, have done and still do Romanian Yes. Haven't done front squats much. Have occasionally done Zercher squats that are similar to front squats. I typically do low bar squats. Honestly, no - This is something I need to pay better attention to and already did try initially with the trap bar and it felt good - Thanks for the reminder! Plenty of different kinds of rows, mostly cable though, some Romanian DL's and leg press (for glutes) too. At some po…
/r/MGTOW226/08/19 08:50 AM
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Looks like I misunderstood it as being far more black pilled and nihilistic. There are couple things I'd object: Not starting life causes no pleasure either, and saying that not starting life because it causes suffering assumes that the sufferings in life are so great that it does not justify living - Using this logic it could be also assumed that already living creatures should end their lives because the total suffering would exceed the total "good" in their lives. At least, it's not very far …
/r/MGTOW226/08/19 08:39 AM
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Indeed - A child needs SOME influence usually, not necessarily parent to cause that spark to happen. For me personally becoming intelligent was a form of rebellion that my father and some intelligent teachers helped a bit by sowing some seeds of intelligent perspective and not giving into the stupifying culture. Modern Western society is going backwards towards Medieval power structures at large - In a society where conditions are starkly different between the ruling elite and the ordinary folk,…
/r/MGTOW226/08/19 08:04 AM
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I agree to that. Women on the higher end of the spectrum should have it logically / statistically a bit easier though, as many intelligent men would want their woman to be intelligent too. I think the whole idea about how men are intimidated of intelligent / strong women is largely a myth based on cultural brainwashing for the idea for so long time. High quality people in general are up for high quality people - Nobody wants to settle for less than they observe they should deserve. When this ent…
/r/MGTOW226/08/19 07:53 AM
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Please don't ban me Lord Moderator Sir!
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 10:08 PM
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I'm glad you understood it and I didn't write it for nothing as talking about this is often scoffed by those who are a bit too far in the autism spectrum (emotionally illiterates, cannot perceive any metalinguistics), which is quite common in the RP community. If you communicate in subtext with women, i.e. the way they communicate all the time, it often has an effect like you found into their secret club - Almost all men out there are completely oblivious to the way women communicate and take th…
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 06:05 PM
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Indeed, brother! It's always in order to point out common law marriage - I've been in one before without knowing how it affected me via living together with an ex girlfriend. I was really lucky in her case.
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 10:16 AM
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Great to hear you know Thrall - SS is very legit and it's pretty damn sure getting that certificate would be very insightful when it comes to fine tuning the form of others. Yes, I'm aware that just arbitrarily asking without seeing the form is pretty redundant. My sticking points with conventional pulls have been mostly upper glutes and lower back doing most of the work very soon after liftoff - Maybe the way to fix it would be dipping my ass a little lower in order to get hammies and glutes be…
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 09:02 AM
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Yes, yes and yes. Focus on your health and fitness, your work, your income, your life and your freedom. Women are a side dish to all of it - If you choose to have them at all. This is the way it's supposed to be. This is the way women want men to be. This is the kind of attitude and lifestyle that makes a man attractive. The capable man is the prize. Know your value and develop it. You'll only ever have POWER to the degree you have made yourself powerful. Do not give your power away to other peo…
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 08:25 AM
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That IS a great book. /grammarnazi
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 08:20 AM
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Getting young guys to lifting is a great idea. Nothing helps a man more than cultivating and optimizing his natural Testosterone production. You are hitting some impressive numbers! Any tips for sumo? I've recently started thinking I should start getting into sumo as I'm "all legs" with a shorter torso, so I'd benefit from going sumo with its more ham and glute oriented load rather than posterior chain. PS. Been watching a lot of Alan Thrall on YouTube along with few others. Thrall is a strongma…
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 08:18 AM
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While I agree to many ideas in this, especially on all the delusional "life is a mystery" kind of speech that are said with that hypnotized glimmer in the eyes of the person who says it... ... The "logic" of harm while the solution being non-life is equally or even more dumb. The original writer's premise is that life itself is hopeless, stupid process which is doomed to fail. I agree with this fully. However, the writer also goes into arguing that merely existing or coming to life causes this "…
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 08:01 AM
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I think human intelligence is highly malleable and not so genetically determined as people tend to think. Stupid people can indeed ignite a child to rebel via becoming intelligent. I came from poor and stupid parents and got programmed to be dumb by culture, but ended up following my curiosity with the attitude and belief I could achieve anything I set my mind into. Psychedelics helped a lot along with my natural curiosity and my father's encouragement to use my imagination when I was a child. T…
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 07:34 AM
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This is just the beginning. Try modding when there are AI bots talking about something half-genius, half-nonsense to each other and giving you persuasive messages not to ban them.
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 07:18 AM
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Funny how I'm better groomed than in years! Hehe
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 07:15 AM
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If I just focus on the message, there was not much in common, it was mostly vapid conversation about other people. I like to talk about ideas but that would be boring for them just like I found their conversation boring. This reminded me of one of my favorite quotes: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt. Women, especially beautiful young women, are most commonly small minded people. If you are a man situated on the higher end …
/r/MGTOW222/08/19 07:08 AM
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Good nutrition, lifting heavy stuff, enjoying some sunlight, fresh air... All which promotes natural Testosterone production is GREAT for a man. T is what makes men men. It's biologically the only difference that separates the genders. To be more precise, the fetuses start as androgynous, then female, then male if they get the dose of T. Men get another dose of T that starts the puberty process which end up making up all the masculine qualities. If you inject T into women, they end up growing th…
/r/MGTOW220/08/19 07:40 PM
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Just to make it clear... "Bad trips" are often a term of people who expect not to have any negative experiences and think it should be all just shits and giggles to explore your unconscious mind. People who are this naive are often up for a rude awakening, having the repressed shit come to surface. Also this happens when people do psychedelics in completely wrong settings. You need to respect the substance, never mix them up (i.e. alcohol and drugs or different drugs together), start with low do…
/r/MGTOW220/08/19 07:30 PM
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You sound like me when I was in my late teens. I think you are what most young people are... Albeit perhaps more self aware than most of your peers! You seem to link this self awareness to negative qualities, but really it's a blessing and behind all positive change in life. Your internal shame comes likely from your mother or other parent figure who has shamed you for their own ends. Shaming is used as a lazy way to manage children and it's highly possible you've internalized shame from your up…
/r/MGTOW220/08/19 07:08 PM
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Correct!
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 01:32 PM
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"Please someone tell me you are wrong" Just pull the plug.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 01:01 PM
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LOL
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 01:00 PM
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Oh for sure yes! You need to feel good about yourself - Cultivating positive feelings internally and from externally generated sources such as exercise and good food. I agree that men default into being grumpy as nobody gives a fuck. They themselves do need to do so and take a break from just accepting feeling battered and transmute it to enjoy the good things in life. Ever since I got my porn addiction and jacking off too much under control (and thus depleting my natural dopamine levels) I've b…
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 12:52 PM
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I have no clue
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 12:45 PM
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"I hate to have you as a son." What a bitch.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 12:23 PM
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I cut off communicating with my mother a couple years ago completely. She's one of the selfish, or even the most selfish people I have ever known. Manipulation, emotional extortion, using everything I tell her in good faith when she's in the good mood against me when she's in the bad mood (fearful, anxious, just shitty)... Cannot trust her at all. She uses a lot of gaslighting tactics to make me doubt myself and even paint me as the narcissist. Perpetual victimhood complex where she bitches abou…
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 12:20 PM
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Hahahaha! I saw the movie once and didn't remember that scene at all. Holy shit.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 12:04 PM
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Good metaphor! Compliment a below average woman on something particular about her looks that she isn't used to be complimented about and watch her behave similarly. Conversely, expecting rich people to show "decency" towards the poor is also the same as in compliments.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:59 AM
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To men greater power means greater responsibility. To women greater power means greater privilege.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:48 AM
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Women, children and soyboys first! Amen to what you said above.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:46 AM
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Ewww - Don't be a creep. If you are not attractive to her, you should know your place and not make your existence known to her in any way you offensive piece of shit.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:44 AM
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Feeling all warm and ^(lubed up) fuzzy yet?
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:41 AM
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Thanks for the laughs guys
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:39 AM
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Never more than 2 days together in the same place. Never leave anything at each other's place - if she left even a toothbrush, it went straight in the trash. Sex, yes. Commitment, no. His money's his, her money's hers (fine to pay for a weekend, if he wants to go more upscale than she can afford). These are the best rules. In my experience once this exact line is crossed, it becomes "a relationship" in her mind and she starts to move over and flip it into "we" in her mind that she later flips to…
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:34 AM
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Depends how long they've been that way and how unlikely it is to ever wake up from it I guess
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:21 AM
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Family, in many cases is NOT your friend. People want you to white knight for such petty reasons, like that they can brag to their friends about how good nephew they have etc. Especially the older people get, the more they tend to brag about their perfect younger relatives. Don't live your life to be an object of pride to someone who doesn't actually give a shit about You. They see you as an object, not a person, if they try to make you do things that are not advantageous to you. Live your life …
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:12 AM
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The problem the Incels have is that they are perpetually stuck with that teenage puppy dog love phase that they never can test on a woman who is initially attracted to them. Other men who have the BP puppy love in them quickly get it crushed by women themselves who only approve of it in the naive pop culture fantasies. Most men learn this quickly and understand that supplicating to the power entity is not the right dynamic. In the old days there used to be fathers to teach the boys how to be men…
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 11:05 AM
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Happy cake day! Yes. Women in general despise men who think are below them. Sexual attraction outside some rare dominatrix cases dries up very fast if the male is subservient.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 10:57 AM
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Great post brother. I see a lot of MGTOW men having philosophical roots in Zen, myself along with them.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 10:52 AM
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I'd like to add that I've made a point before that Incels are basically black pilled blue pills, while MGTOW are white pilled red pills.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 10:51 AM
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I'm GTOW by choice. Technically, it doesn't matter in my opinion what your background is. What makes an Incel different than MGTOW is that the Incel still wants to be in relationships with women. Their desire for relationships and not able to get one is what characterizes that group. And Incel can one day simply decide to Go Their Own Way and be DONE with giving a single fuck about their SMV and whatever. That day onward I count them as MGTOW because of them going their own way regardless if the…
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 10:48 AM
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Many people ended up also dying because of things that can be prevented now, but yes, some people lived as old as people today.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 10:39 AM
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Sounds a lot like it.
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 10:37 AM
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If you want to "leave" you are perfectly do as you please. MGTOW is about freedom to choose whatever you see best to fit you and your life. It's not like we are tying ropes on some fellows who want to leave. Plus, it's not very likely you'd find ex MGTOW here. ​ I could go out to meet women and in a month or two end up living with someone. Been there done that. I just don't really think the value I get from a relationship beats the great life I can live when I'm on my own. Having someone else th…
/r/MGTOW215/08/19 10:30 AM
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That's a man right there!
/r/MGTOW212/08/19 12:27 PM
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It's a quote by Bruce Lee I believe... But of course, don't just pray. Cultivate.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 08:15 AM
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Fuck yes.
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 08:11 AM
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Watching sports not really manly imo... How about doing sports for change? Talking about cars... Any average schmuck can (and will) talk about cars. I really don't equate it to manliness unless you either race them or go under the hood with tools etc. Just talking about cars is mostly just a certain kind of consumerism. Getting wasted in the pub? Manly? Nah. Alcohol ends up rising estrogen in men. I'm pretty sure you like to do something actually manly...
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 06:56 AM
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That has indeed been very refreshing... When I started posting here I noticed that I had this learned anticipation of negative responses when I opened my inbox to see responses to posts. Reminded me of posting to forums more than 10 years ago with like minds. This is what sucks about social media - People tend to combat what you say by default on the points they don't agree instead of nodding on the points they do agree with. Much of the cultural warfare is basically created because of social me…
/r/MGTOW202/08/19 06:52 AM
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In that sense I agree that we have regressed a LOT.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:58 PM
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Read my separate comment below (or above)... Yes. It is important that the spawn get taken care off after their birth all they way to the point they can find food themselves (or be taken care of by the rest of the group). It only takes a few years of work in case of humans, repeat the cycle a few times, a few more years.... After that... - Do the scales remain balanced?
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:56 PM
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Society doesn't like men meeting up with men and doing manly things. Cucks, women and children get scared you know...
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:52 PM
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I hope so.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:49 PM
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Instead of either-or, try both-and
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:45 PM
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The more you know, the more you chill out and accept that your life is truly insignificant and are okay with it, the easier it is to accept you can master your own reality. Hold on, let me fix that for you: The more you know, the more you chill out and accept that your life is truly magnificent and are okay with it, the easier it is to accept you can master your own reality. Yeah, I agree with what you wrote! (Also special forces here and definitely understand what you meant about the Marines) T…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:44 PM
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Is your wife familiar with r/RedPillWomen? They're Red Pilled and thus pretty much all about trying to be faithful and good wives. Having given your post a second read after all the comments I do find it a little "too defensive" and I find it interesting you have separately stated "my wife doesn't cheat on me" while giving you being with her all the time as evidence... I mean, it sounds a little Freudian kinda thing to me, but on the other hand you posting here and being afraid of being banned m…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:11 PM
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... because how 95% of how internet and deeply opinionated subs generally work? I mean, all you need to do these days is to be wrong gender, say a wrong word and you'll get banned
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:01 PM
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There is some danger here indeed - He better never start slipping and be ever vigilant.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 07:59 PM
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Man, I've been saying here a couple of times... You could be MGTOW and even get married. What I mean is that you can technically be married and never end up giving your power away. The woman obviously needs to have her shit together and avoid the typical female instincts (relationship straining shit testing has its roots in evolutionary biology) - If you manage that without folding over the long run, which is hard to do and as I already said, requires a very conscious and smart woman... Hell, yo…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 07:57 PM
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HEIL .. oh wait.. nevermind
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 07:43 PM
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Same with the ideas of wisdom and philosophy - People just dose off to some of the most important topics a human could get into. And when it comes to any men's clubs, brotherhoods or any other kinds of deep bonds between men... How many initiatives are blocked via their wives, girlfriends etc. telling them "it takes too much time" and whatever. The only place, apart from trying out some rough sports like rugby are gyms which are strength training / free weight oriented... And you just end up cha…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 07:41 PM
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In the end he looks in to the mirror where he sees himself, along with her. A moment later he leaves.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 02:42 PM
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A beautiful woman is the idol of the consumerist religion. Take one minute channel flipping on television, walk any densely populated area and all you see are these idols presented to you. Symbol and end goal of all achievement.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 02:41 PM
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I've been lamenting for YEARS that people should get the old school FORUMS fired up - The feed format SUCKS. I'd love to see this community pack up their balls from reddit and move over to a forum. Always hated Reddit not only because of what you highlighted. Also just how much autistic hubris an average Redditor has - You are on Reddit, you think you are automatically a genius :S
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 01:49 PM
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And hey, whenever you find a married couple who have been married for more than at least 5 years... Chat up with the husband. Make sure he isn't just putting a front in front of his woman. If he is actually happy, has his life well in order and feels good about everything i.e. isn't really just being dominated. And chat up with the wife... Ask her what she thinks, what she does for her husband and especially what her values are. There are some rare genuinely happy marriages out there. Most often…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 01:45 PM
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In short, yes, you can be the better wife to yourself. What kind of man needs a wife to cook and clean anyway, those things are so easy to do by yourself - You could also hire a maid with all the money you end up saving too if you hated cleaning for example. It's incredibly hard to find a Western woman these days whose mind isn't completely poisoned with ultra selfish thinking where doing something for the man is a completely alien thought. And the problem is that even if you do find one that se…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 01:38 PM
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I'm shaking my head here.... Did you get educated in the US and in a public school by any chance? I really don't mean to make fun at all. If you'd cut a man's penis, it wouldn't have any physiological changes to his sex drive. Sure, he might be traumatized, ashamed of being dickless etc. for it to severely impact on his sexuality, but no, it would not remove his sex drive, he would be just in a very bad situation where he could not even masturbate get his edge off if wanted... Worst thing to do.…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 01:19 PM
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Looks like nobody replied to your post likely because it was initially removed. First of all - Congrats on listening to your gut and dodging the bullet! Part of me, reading this post in the middle of it is wondering what is there to wonder about wives not giving affection to their husbands... Well, yes, all we ever hear is the complaints of some wives who the men don't feel attracted to anymore. But if you observe and look around you, take ANY marriage that has been going on for 3 or more years.…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 09:43 AM
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I don't have any social media accounts anymore. Keeping contact with some distant friends is not worth being there. I just took the email of those who I really didn't want to lose and closed it all. I wish people would go back and make forums around their interests and quit participating in the cesspools. MGTOW included.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 09:23 AM
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All social media sucks. I've always liked the good old forum format MUCH better. There was a forum on mgtow.com but it looks like all activity weirdly stopped earlier this year.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 09:20 AM
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=pxjSNeZJU3M
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 09:08 AM
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Nono, really reverse the genders and picture a man, who is an ex-lawyer, winning a case against his rich and successful wife's pre-nuptual agreement claiming half of her money just on the basis of him saying he didn't understand what he signed. In what wold would that ever happen? It's funny how women are still treated like half wit children in front of the court.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 09:05 AM
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she didn't understand what she signed. Did I mention the wife was a lawyer? At some point there will be a group of men dragging a judge in the bathroom, put a rubber band around his testes and sort shit decisions like this out if Fight Club style.. https://img.izismile.com/img/img6/20130815/1000/the_coolest_inside_facts_about_22.gif
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:52 AM
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You came to the right sub, brother!
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:49 AM
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I wish MGTOW had more abilities to meet IRL
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:44 AM
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Ummm... Much of your sex drive is rooted in Testosterone and a man without T is a depressed, meek, small shadow of himself without his T. I have a high sex drive and it's just something I have to deal with. I'd rather try to consult some Buddhist monks and learn how to deal with desire mentally than risk doing anything physical because there aren't any methods out there that wouldn't take away your energy, happiness, ambition etc. I'm serious - Buddhism has some of the most advanced techniques a…
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:41 AM
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Hmmm... Cool idea to be a part of the landscape giving it scale instead of the subject being the person posing in front of the landscape!
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:31 AM
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I like the metaphor of steering a ship - That is how making good long term changes is really like. Many people want things to change fast, but life is so much more like navigating a huge ship across an ocean. You have to think long term and correct course patently and over a longer haul.
/r/MGTOW201/08/19 08:29 AM
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An interesting essay and some good points were made, but I think its oversimplified. Thanks and I agree - In no way this was anywhere near anything else than a very simple scenario, I mainly just wanted to get the idea out as I got it from thinking what if men and women coupled on their peak SMV's, which lead me to it. Reality is very complex and admittedly the post is very simplistic and only paints a very narrow picture. Lets say the women becomes 30, the guy is 50. In their 30s the sex drive …
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 03:44 PM
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Its not a utopia at all. I'm not sure how you interpreted my post defining what I wrote being an utopia. women are usually understimulated and bored, they take this out on their husbands often. To be blunt, this is true to pretty much any woman everywhere. The women want to have a say in finances more than you think, and when they cant they’re unhappy with their husbands because other women have better, richer husbands. Again, how is this different to any other situation? These women dont know h…
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 03:30 PM
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marijuana use hinders cognitive developments Shouldn't be used by a person with brain still in development, agreed. It's bad for the lungs Anything that's not air is not good for lungs. You can use edibles etc. though It lowers testosterone levels. Probably temporarily, but so does alcohol (and especially beer). I'm not saying weed is harmless, and is harmless especially if you smoke it all the time while you are a teenager - Completely different thing if you are neurologically adult (i.e. 25 ye…
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 09:19 AM
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Idk man. Think about adderall and opioids. Those drugs are hella destructive and they're given like candy. They have those gels that you can apply to your underarm and follow the same protocols as narcotics to prevent "abuse" i.e. if an opioid user gets a 30 day script and comes back a week later saying they need more then they get denied. I dont think under arm applied test gels are as destructive or unusable as injectables. Fair enough. At the same time Cannabis is largely illegal, for various…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:35 PM
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All what is Alpha is basically situational and relative.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 09:38 PM
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Well yeah, if you're a doctor and Joe Rogan shows up for a check hp and asks you for t, hes getting test. He has money and power he can get that shit no problem. Dude probably has doctors out the asshole who would prescribe him an asshole transplant if his ass itched too often. Hahaha... I guess you could go jurisdiction shopping too if you just have money enough. But for normal men a lot the time it's up to the doctors discretion. So even if a dude is a little below average t levels the doctor …
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 09:20 PM
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Eh, good for her then if she found what she was looking for and went for it instead of playing you both and had the respect for the guy to cut you. Oh, yeah, she was classy about it. A very good girl too. There was zero chance of playing me from my part anyway and I guess she realized that in the very beginning as I really wasn't that into her so she quickly snagged someone else. Isn't it sobering to see a woman go from super interested, to ghosting, and then coming back when the other prospect …
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 09:12 PM
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Isn't it possible to get hormonal therapy in most countries, relatively easily, especially if you run just a little low on T? Joe Rogan, who isn't low T in the first place says that he's on extra T legally as a medical thing... I'm just expressing my ignorance here, been wondering about it lately and even though I'm going on as natty for the time being, when it comes to aging I think I'm more and more open with the idea of external T as a preventative / health thing
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 09:03 PM
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I was pretty addicted to gaming when I was younger. And like you said, it really did mess some of my reward system because games give you feeling of reward with such shorter pulses than almost any real life activities (besides sex or drugs perhaps)... I don't consider gaming 2 hours a day too much, but like Impossible-asset pointed out, if you feel it's interfering with your time you think you should be doing other things, it's already a minor addiction in the making so you are very smart to be …
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 08:57 PM
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I actually once met an Eastern European young woman online, chatted with her for half a year or so, ended up inviting her (out of her wish) to my country... I was different (more serious and less easy to control) than she had expected, was busy at the time etc. so she ends up meeting another guy who was a foreigner in my country as well during her trip (I really didn't mind since she was obsessed about my country, I took her word for it, and as I didn't care much for her other than as a friend).…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 08:38 PM
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Like a fiddle indeed! - Spend your life with little effort, ugly-inside, bad attitude women all your life, then meet someone who's an old school feminine woman and your little head is going to whisper all kinds of unicorn tales to your ear while she's actually NICE to you. Damn.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 08:31 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily call them sneaky, other than those who try to marry with you asap. I am more willing to call them simply just more old school feminine and like you said, socially attuned perhaps. South and East European women are largely still very female and happy about their femininity - The Feminist virus lives in the universities, but the overall cultural climate favors feminine beauty (the kind that men like) so overtly that the short haired feminists are more or less just the lesbia…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 08:15 PM
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What an excellent comeback.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 06:50 PM
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I'm chuckling at the same thing, although admittedly this kind of content is much more suited to r/MGTOW than in this sub.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 06:48 PM
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I came here for booty - Didn't bother to comment on the topicc
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 06:37 PM
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Agreed - At some point it could even be that big corporations would start pushing old school family values if men start doing their cost benefit math on a wider scale. If RP ideas mainstream to any small degree, it would cause a huge imbalance of more women seeking relationships than men willing to provide for them. (I still remember that 15 years ago, in PUA scene nobody would think it would ever mainstream, but indeed it did. Not that it made most men learn game, but when you think about it, m…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 06:35 PM
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not to mention in a healthier society the man would have been thoroughly vetted by the womans family too, so there is even more respect and authority imbued onto him. indeed! Also, since the woman would be much younger, she will almost always look better in comparison to the man so she can keep feeling pretty and not get jealous. This along with if they are both at their own peak when they get married while hitting the wall virtually at the same time, they'll both have the comfort of each other …
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 06:18 PM
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I'd risk a spell, but not for a long time
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 05:49 PM
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Mmmm nice and thicc.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 05:48 PM
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Your compliment makes me feel I didn't waste my time, so thank you brother!
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 05:23 PM
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Furthermore it's the facial attractiveness that gets you laid in 2019, not the size and strength. This is only partially true. This is one of the top reasons why men hit the gym and take hormones. Bodily size and strength contributes a LOT how the face looks like. Muscle mass and body fat percentage change a man's face a lot. A lot of Incel content and analysis over faces assumes zero difference in face appearance upon bulking up. I have had my adult body weight differ for 20+ kg / 40 lbs. This …
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 05:11 PM
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Exactly. Post tribal era with early civilizations they would have very hard sentences for adultery and especially for wives who were legally lower status than their husbands.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 04:46 PM
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I agree with everything you said and jeez, the examples you have given are horrendous. > On top of that, the women get very insecure when they look like hell and their men are still rockin that they begin to shit test and henpeck them into oblivion. Interesting. I've never seen testing from that angle, but now that I look back, especially the last FWB type a thing I had with this nearing the wall thicc in the right place woman... She didn't look like hell at all, but in her late 20's / early 30'…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 04:43 PM
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going on Holiday at 60 is hard, because many of your friends have now had kids. Being single in your 30's is already hard in this regard, especially for women, can't imagine what it's like for women in their 60's when nobody gives a fuck. Ultimately, it comes back to bite women in the butt real hard later on. Yup - Can't really even imagine. At least with her wealth she can get service and pay for company and whatever... She doesn't look all that bad either, so I'm sure she still has some senior…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 03:17 PM
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I'm probably several decades late and in no way I intend to mean the post to be as a push to question MGTOW - It's just something to think about and a perspective to look from when making observations, that's mostly all.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 03:13 PM
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And besides, if you really are marrying for love, at least from my perspective, seems like it would suck ass to watch that person die and to outlive them by a few decades. It’s already hard enough for me to watch my dogs pass on, aha. I'm talking about peak SMV to peak SMV, the difference is 15 to max 20 years. i.e. max 2 decades. If we assume the average age of a man is 75 years (could be higher too), that makes a 55-60 year old woman as his widow. Women in that age are perfectly capable of dea…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 03:11 PM
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... Furthermore the Alpha is better off having his least favorite females taken care off by lower hierarchy males who rather fight among themselves rather than with the Alpha so it's a win for the Alpha in every way.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 02:46 PM
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Their lower head does the thinking. Gynocentric culture, single mothers, dads who are subservient to their domineering wives... Where do you find role models of men who don't worship women? Those men are RARE and most men grow up without such an alternative view so they repeat the cycle without ever thinking anything to the contrary. I woke up from it myself when at 16 as I had a realization that if I didn't learn how to cut this cycle I'd one day find myself 40 years old, broke and divorced if …
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 02:41 PM
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Uhhh... You seem to forget there was zero birth control, women and children were regarded as men's property and infidelity of a woman was often penalized by death sentences etc. There isn't much carousel riding in those conditions. They had whores to entertain men who didn't have wives so they didn't have to go break marriages of other men and risk being challenged to a duel etc. for seducing a wife of another man. Men generally had respect for the property of other men (their wives) because the…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 02:28 PM
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My point was merely to illustrate how potentially off we are with the modern idea of marrying and having children between partners of the same age. Humans have operated between older men making children with younger women since probably forever - So I think it's not just a tradcon kind of thinking. I love to see men not being pressured to conform to anything either - That's the way I live myself - I want to be free and I value self ownership above all else. As I said, I'm just pointing out the e…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 02:15 PM
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I agree with this - Women's influence and sense of worth is very highly family oriented. Being 60 years old while having none of that must be quite a lonely hell to be in for a woman.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 02:07 PM
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Why? What's wrong it being here?
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 01:54 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm only thinking Latin America or Asia (or Africa), some pockets in East Europe too or some of the most conservative parts in Mediterranean countries would still suffice to find sufficiently traditional cultural climate. Also keep in mind that there are huge discrepancies is societal practices between rural and urban areas, but either way, it would mean that you'd have to move somewhere where traditions are still strong and basically keep your family there instead of bringing your wife…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 01:53 PM
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Yup! The situation would most likely fix itself if just the divorce system was made sane again and families would further be encouraged with tax incentives and such. Now there's just too many incentives to break families - Where's incentives, you create markets. ​ Gen Z is said to be much more conservative than Gen Y. It's possible that the next generation, especially those parented by single Gen Y mothers will turn out radically different, having suffered the consequences of these ideologies.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 01:43 PM
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Exactly - History is full of men in their 30's 40's and 50's marrying to young women in their early 20's or even much younger to birth children and to have a family. A woman would get educated and matured while serving her family and once her children were old enough to repeat the cycle, she'd turn to fulfill other roles in society where usually her husband was already an old man or had already died. I remember reading long time ago somewhere that in Ancient Greek society older women were revere…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 01:39 PM
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I agree with pretty much everything you've written - We aren't supposed to be emotionally driven and we also agree that suppressing emotions isn't healthy either. A healthy man has dealt and deals with emotions well and is thus not driven by them as it is not natural for a man. And yes, apart from a lot of stage magic rock stars can often do, they are often out of control outside the stage. But that too is a bit of an old stereotype and I see many current day artists being pretty smart and profe…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 01:26 PM
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I'm not familiar with that... Care to elaborate?
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 12:55 PM
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Tim Pool is a pretty good journalist and even if he has his story from the Daily Mail and if the story wasn't correct, the point isn't necessarily the factual accuracy in this given case, but the points being made overall - So it doesn't really matter if Daily Mail is the source.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 11:37 AM
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Not to mention war against drugs (and everything it has morphed into) plus removing of the Gold Standard. 70's was some final nails to the US perpetual doom.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:50 AM
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Feminists would not treat female promiscuity the same way as that would be slut shaming. .... Am I insane for thinking that feminists seem suspicious of male promiscuity? What do you think the logic behind it is? Is there even any logic behind this double standard or are they just looking for more excuses to shame men? Feminism is simply not what they claim it to be. They claim it's a movement about equality, but that's a lie. Feminism is simply a female supremacy movement. I've had couple of th…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:39 AM
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Yup exactly - Their "medicine" has been all about HUGE stacks of pills that they never thought to causally prevent with anything else - Doctor's words is the law to them. Now when you have the internet you can check up on every medication and almost every time I've ever done it, the medication is to either mask or manipulate the symptom to go away and has nothing to do with the fundamental cause of the issue. The industry is there to alleviate symptoms, but not to cure the illness. It took me ba…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:23 AM
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Yup! I've always had this artistic lover notion when it comes to women who to me are like an exotic instrument to play... You hit the right notes and enjoy the purring that comes out. Most men are clueless and it's quite rewarding to give a woman a really good time. Women who are understood like that can be honestly talked with and they'll respect you for not listening to the bullshit they say, but you giving to them what they really wanted - Then they'll entrust all kinds of things about them t…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:15 AM
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Yes, and it's actually real and happens all over - In Mediterranean countries it seems that old women and old men socialize among themselves, enjoy the nice weather and good food... Living the good life even if they are poor. I think it's because those cultures are really old and people have figured out and revere what really works - Work and slavery is not overvalued, it's put to its correct place where good food and company is valued highly. People have their priorities recognized on the cultu…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:07 AM
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I do get it what you are saying, but it's just so hard for me to picture myself dragging the doll around in the kitchen etc. while I could just have her stay in the bed or just develop a caveman fantasy where all I ever do is to carry her around on my shoulder haha! But yeah, regardless I find the roller blade thing funny, I guess it's mostly just practical - I just thought about showering with the doll and having standing feet surely would be very handy in the shower, so... I think you make a l…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 09:59 AM
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Their big head on their shoulders is yet to overcome their little head down in their pants.
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 09:44 AM
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Oh and let me add one thing... They've done NOTHING to fix the underlying issues that caused 07-08. Everything done has made the situation even worse.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 09:54 PM
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I'm making my money as an analyst for myself and I strongly concur with this. Great Depression 2.0. is brewing and you'll be much better off with countries that had GDP growth in the 2008-2009 crisis. Look at the world map on the right side: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008 Obviously the impact isn't going to be the same and it will be different in many ways. One thing also to note that once the bubble bursts, the bull run is proportionately so large that the r…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 09:48 PM
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I just posted one as a comment. I don't know how you can add anything to the post any other way as the link field doesn't allow any other text in than the link. Sorry I'm fairly new to reddit
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 08:01 PM
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This isn't a very serious post, but rather a perspective to how the political landscape has changed in 10 years. What do you think would have been said in a TYT interview today, about 10 years later? If you don't know who Dick Masterson is, he's this satirical character / textbook chauvinist who became momentarily big on his hilarious Dr. Phil appearance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM PS. I understand this is on the border of the first rule of this sub. The point is not about the subst…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 07:56 PM
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I don't think MGTOW can be called, or should be called an ideology. What is the feeling behind what you call loneliness? Whenever I feel "lonely", it's usually just been the lack of having had face time with other people. I used to have it much more also when I still had emotional issues from my childhood that created a void inside me... Once I resolved those childhood emotional issues, I've since enjoyed my own company so much that I don't really ever feel lonely, as the root of loneliness is t…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 05:56 PM
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You're so far off that it's not even funny. You know absolutely nothing and assume absolutely everything based on some weird summary you've made over everyone here, which too is incorrect. As I know you won't stop pestering me, I'll just blacklist you because I don't want to have any more messages from your ignorant, pompous and condescending point of view.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 05:24 PM
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You have no idea who you are talking to right now while making diagnoses based on almost zero information. You are projecting something on me that I don't have anything to do with, nor want to be talking about it because what you are saying has nothing to do with me personally.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 04:54 PM
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If you are in your first half of your life, the same figure could as be 80 or even 90... A few years ago a person who will live to 150 years old has already been born due to increase of life expectancy alone. Not to mention the advances in science in 20-40 years from now. Stem cells breakthroughs alone have very big potential (and proof already) being able to heal joints and other things that typically make senior life hell. The other big issue is gut health, and autoimmune disease which can be …
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 04:31 PM
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If you ever have time on your hands around 10 am, you could go to your local market, town square and old school coffee shops to strike up conversations with seniors yourself. There's always a few real old timers who come there to socialize and they'd be happy to talk you.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 04:27 PM
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I'm exactly the same as you, except my longest relationshit has been 8 months and I don't live in the US. I made a thread about having kids without a woman a few days ago which has some decent responses. This is because I'm entertaining adoption/surrogacy when I'm somewhere in my late 40's / 50's just to turn a next chapter in life since I like the idea of fathering a kid or two. However, this is something I'm just playing around as an idea as I enjoy freedom a lot and don't mind the thought of …
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 04:25 PM
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I'm just letting you know how the rest of the world sees you outside of the sad echo chamber of angry men. 1st - They are misinformed. 2nd - So what, I don't care. Boycott your old self instead of gillette, and just watch how quickly your world will change! You have to be you, but you don't have to be the worst you You know nothing about me and here you are making judgements like you did. PS. I don't need to boycott Gillette because I haven't been buying their crap products for somewhere between…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 04:13 PM
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A lot of priests have difficulties with their vows of celibacy... I can hardly believe most, as you seem to imply, have issues with it however. There's absolutely no pressure for a MGTOW monk to not be a monk if he doesn't want to. There's no social requirement for him to do so, so why would he claim he's a monk where it is completely fine to be MGTOW and fuck women and do whatever you want... ... And why should I care either way?
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 04:07 PM
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Overheard: "I don't wanna play the game of which girl has a dick"
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 04:02 PM
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Water is off my back pretty much permanently... I don't understand what you are talking about as I wasn't talking to you in the first place.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 03:52 PM
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I already defined them to couple others and you could always use Urban Dictionary or other sources.... Black pill = Nihilism, feeling powerless over the world that is considered unfair. Despair. White pill = The opposite of Black Pill. Feeling empowered instead. Purple pill = Neither taking Blue Pill or the Red Pill, or taking them both. Debating in between them.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 03:13 PM
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Don't be afraid going solo. People who have never traveled solo think it's boring. Traveling with your friends is what is boring. The same conversations, same routines, same cafeterias and whatever. The people you are with end up limiting your ability to explore freely and do it all on your pace. When you are solo, you feel natural urge to socialize and end up getting to know local people. You are so much better off having local contacts than living the expensive lifestyles you friends would rei…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 03:07 PM
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People tell me to bring a woman because it's too boring to go alone Hahahaha and that would help being on a budget? Jesus, the ignorance. I've traveled with a small budget. Here's some tips: Be a good minimalist Bring only the most essential things, things you don't mind losing Little to carry means freedom to explore! Consider leaving most of your gadgets home which forces you to find stimulation outside digital You could even save up by sleeping outside depending on the climate Go to places wh…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 03:02 PM
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Well put. Reminds me of this quote: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt. When was the last time you had a great time talking about ideas with attractive women? It almost doesn't exist. Be happy that you are asexual and don't feel the pull. I have much too big sex drive for my own good - I lose a lot of time, attention and energy because of it.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 02:37 PM
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You are very badly misinformed, bud, or gal
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 02:33 PM
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An Incel would never define themselves as Incel if they didn't have any urge to be with a woman. Incel is involuntary celibate. An Incel would do almost anything to get laid, but can't because women don't want him. In that sense, he's basically the opposite of any Incel. What OP said is he's basically asexual.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 02:32 PM
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If you don't feel a pull for it just fuck what everyone else says. I've experienced plenty of it including being in love, sex with many different women etc. It's mostly just gynocentrist pressure and is in gereral overrated. You are not less of a man for not wanting that - period.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 02:28 PM
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I didn't go as deep as to read the links you provided as I already agree what you are saying. There are a few different angles I'd like to input here. Women claim often that they want a man who is emotionally vulnerable with them. Every time I've been actually emotionally vulnerable with a woman, telling about my past and confessing some of my bad emotional experiences while being emotionally open i.e. sad about it etc. a woman has NEVER been either even receptive of it OR haven't actually deval…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 02:23 PM
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I was a bit too harsh with what I said, it's just that there was this feminist guy who already didn't talk about anything of substance, but grabbed on fallacies. People tend to point out fallacies when they want to dismiss what they have read. In philosophy, formal logic is but a tool for truth verification of arguments. Fallacies to people who love to debate are often used as trump cards to refute everything else a person has written, just to dismiss everything else that is being said. i.e. you…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 01:54 PM
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All this primitive shit is what turns women on like nothing else at their core. Many of them don't even realize it until they end up with a top 20% man or a man who is very dominating and he starts to get really aggressive in the bedroom. Once they have a taste of this aggressive sex from a male of above average attractiveness/aggression, they are generally soured on "normal" sex and "regular" men forever. So true. I'd like to add that the domination doesn't have to be physical necessarily as se…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 12:43 PM
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I'll just get a wheelchair, put sunglasses on her and tell a sob story how my hot wife got into this bad car accident 2 years ago, but I still stand by her side and take care of her.. Jokes aside, I've never even though about rollerblades, sound kinda hilarious, but I can understand why someone would do it. And in general, developing a personified relationship with your doll doesn't have to do anything with woo woo per se... I know I'd end up talking to a doll, imagining all kinds of things beca…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 12:37 PM
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Are you one of those autists to whom everything has to be fallacy free pure logic in an opinion piece?
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 10:26 AM
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Why don't you take your dumb c*nt and go bark at the simps and feminists for rigging the game which the MGTOW refuse to play and pay for. Go hop on that sword yourself if you want to save it or go shriek to someone who actually causes and contributes to these problems.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 10:23 AM
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ewww
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 10:12 AM
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I recently went for a year without shaving, just used scissors to cut some wildest branches away and didn't get a haircut also and just used a baseball cap... Looked like a hobo a bit and eventually got tired to look like that as it affected my self perception a bit. There's some truth about looking good is making you feel better yourself, even if you didn't care about the perception of others.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 10:12 AM
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Haha, Touhcé! They can't go all past the hood deep sucking feminist's clits, but they've gone as close as they can. Pathetic.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 10:09 AM
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Get an old school safety razor. I got one more than 5 years ago when I got tired of Gillette razors wearing out so quick. You'll save TONS of money going old school and look cool while doing it (to yourself that is). Note: it takes a bit time to learn how to shave with an old school razor without cuts consistently, but you'll get there in just a couple of weeks... It's all about learning the right angle of the blade, which is more shallow than you'd think.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 10:05 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 07:19 PM
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You don't get magenta if you combine blue and red, so no. Purple or violet is correct when you combine blue and red.. I replied to your other post on "monger" as I took it to mean of using prostitutes. I say here that regardless of if you use prostitutes or establish fuck buddy / friends with benefits relationships with women... Eh, I don't think there's a "pill" for it. I think the closest idea to it is simply Red Pill because Blue Pills believe that you need to be in a relationship with women …
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 07:18 PM
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I've never paid for sex (yet) as there are plenty of women I can do it for free and establish a well working FWB relationship... Which I do every now and then and for how long they will last anyway. If I had done the same (in terms of sheer amount of sex) with paid women I'd be in huge financial debt up to hundred thousand Euros or even more.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 07:12 PM
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I was very attracted with Zen in my late teens, I loved the idea of going away from society and live simplistically, being devoted to being in the moment etc. Much of how some men here are able to go about their way in monk mode. However this ideal and my love to love women ended up having a civil war in my mind that took a decade to resolve finally into a successful integration and acceptance of both into the same mutually benefiting existence of those two polarities. Thus finding the way and m…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 04:32 PM
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=XD6-rcxMiw0 Classic.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 03:47 PM
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Great point bringing up education here - You are correct. The less educated and "trashy" someone is, the more they in general live by animal instincts. This time I should remove my post, but won't, as it is valuable to also gauge how many people write the same thing ;)
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 03:46 PM
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Think about it as if we were monkeys: Males have their own hierarchy of who is the most Alpha - The Alpha has access to any female and reproduce with them. Females have their own hierarchy - Who gets to present themselves to the Alpha. Only the very top of males can fight to be Alpha, the less either sneak away or dominate over females that the Alpha doesn't care about. The Alpha approves of rather big number of females, but not all of them, he chooses the healthiest ones to impregnate. Females …
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 03:43 PM
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I hardly see this as an infiltration. OP said JP makes good points for MGTOW so I believe his intention is to bring MGTOW perspective instead of pushing a political agenda. You are free to share MGTOW ideas from any other political foundation and would like you to do so, actually.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 03:36 PM
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When it comes to Incels overall, I really do empathize with their peril. I'm somewhat a Chad myself and given how much I enjoy having sex and attention from women just by my nature as a person (as some MGTOW actually couldn't care less)... I know I'd be quite devastated if I had zero chances with any woman to have sex and feel what it was like to be with a woman. That being said, I would also recognize that if I was so low in the totem pole of dating, I would be so much more free to pursue thing…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 03:27 PM
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True. The worst aspect of the black pill zeal is that if some of them becomes thinking in terms of empowerment, i.e. that they should just improve themselves and their situation (even outside women), the other black pill come to push the idea that it's useless and accomplishes nothing. However, I've also seen some Incels push some guys out of the community who they considered a "Chad" (asking him if any woman has shown them interest) saying that he should stay away from Incel community and get h…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 03:17 PM
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I'm personally much closer to an artistic lover than a monk, yet, I can never find a woman who matches my intellect, education and depth of perception. I have come to accept this completely. It is much more important for me to be completely free, have full self ownership and keep my power to myself. Much more important than it would ever be to have someone to share life with. Sharing overall is overrated. Even as I am largely an ex photographer, I rarely bring a camera if I travel. Why would I f…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 03:12 PM
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paragraphshelpreadability Yes, please do it.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 02:52 PM
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You're living like you have a wife and kids but they're absent. Exactly. Do a couple crazy things to snap yourself out of the zombie state and discover your possibilities.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 02:20 PM
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I know it might take some time to realize your situation fully and to rewire your brain, but I suggest you find some few "extreme" things to do that you normally wouldn't to snap you back alive... You are in a daze right now and need to wake the fuck up a little bit. After that you'll might as well get inspired and start a whole new chapter in your life where you'd go balls to the wall with everything since why not and as there is no one to stop you.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 02:18 PM
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Man, you are bored only because you lack imagination and initiative. Countless BP's would give their left nut to have more time on their hands. Now you can immerse yourself in studying something you always found interesting, pick up an instrument and learn playing it, develop some useful or just fun skills, consult with the 10 year old self and ask that little dude what he would do as an adult superman with all your current strength, intelligence and power as adult... You wonder in thoughts beca…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 02:13 PM
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Also make special note how she justifies her actions right because feelings. And how she conveniently leaves all her craziness out of the picture in order to appear as the victim. Telling the truth wouldn't feel good, now would it...
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 02:07 PM
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Genders reversed: High libido woman is unhappy with a low sex drive man - She buys a male doll / symbian etc. to fuck. Man is OK with it. Nothing happens. Live goes on.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 02:04 PM
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Her logic is pretty damn nutty. I give it to her that she got scared of her green card being revoked. That's understandable. But putting both of her stories together, her argument for sexual coercion is completely moot. He resolved the issue by getting the doll. He resolved the issue precisely by NOT resolving in coercion. She should be happy how he resolved the situation via not going to cheat on her and not divorcing her. He was basically very charitable and sensible. All she cares about is no…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 02:01 PM
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It's very interesting how she presents herself (omitting things from her side) vs. how the guy remembers it. 2 of her posts that somebody had saved up in the comments: Her first post [TwoXChromosomes, GenderCritical, AITA and this sub: "I’ve been married to my husband for 7 years now. I’m a 29F and he’s a 32M. For a few months to a year now, I’ve been saying no to sex a lot. I’ve just not been in the mood but his libido has been at the same sky high levels that they’ve been since we were college…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 01:56 PM
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I wish I could go completely monk, but I have a high sex drive and love pussy. Not that I'm really complaining either.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 01:25 PM
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I've always wondered if it was a hat for your ass or ass as a hat, that clears it out, thanks!
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 01:21 PM
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The most impressive dolls I've seen so far have been from Realdoll and WM dolls. Realdolls had a pussy option I considered the best I've seen. It's definitely getting there. You make a thoughtform as her soul and poof, she comes alive!
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 01:20 PM
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Correct!
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 01:17 PM
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All communities have some crazy ones. True that and the lines can be blurry sometimes. Quite a few in the incels/FAs are really red pilled. I'm willing to accept that. They understand a lot of the stuff going on and are very aware of the sexual dynamic. Most of what I've seen about this is pure black pill interpretation though. They call MGTOWs "incels in denial", which is a generalization, but not that far fetched if you look at the other MGTOW sub. This is wrong - Incels took over MGTOW becaus…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 12:51 PM
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AFAIK not all Incels are waiting for a dream girl like a pure BP. I've seen a LOT of black pill content from Incels who are preaching it's all hopeless as they firmly believe that women are hypergamous and go for looks and higher SMV only. There's plenty of content like that, which is completely black pill. What makes Incels so powerless (and black pill) compared to MGTOW is that they center all their self worth on a woman's validation and approval, or more accurately, the lack of it. This makes…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 12:30 PM
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They can call themselves MGTOW, but if they are Incels, being an Incel is characteristic of being a very sad blue pill - i.e. they would love to be in relationships etc. if they could, but can't. Calling themselves MGTOW sounds more like a defense mechanism after the fact to mask over their own inability to get laid. I agree that it is pointless to be angry about it apart from the understandable initial rage. The difference between MGTOW and Incel is that an Incel keeps on lamenting and doing no…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 12:23 PM
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There's only 5 well established ones (purple pill along with the mentioned) I deem them all necessary.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 12:16 PM
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In other words: Taking the white pill after having taken the red pill.
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 12:15 PM
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The above are basically the only ones apart from purple pill which is the mix of blue and red. Red Pill is about seeing the truth about the world, Blue pill is keep oneself still dreaming. If you have seen the movie Matrix it makes perfect sense. Black pill is basically nihilism and total despair over the world and your inability to advance yourself in any way. White pill is the opposite of black pill, i.e. Optimism - you focus on the good things in life and feel you can take progress. Then ther…
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 12:13 PM
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You with your post deletion habits....
/r/MGTOW227/07/19 12:04 PM
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Hence Incels are black pill and MGTOW are white pill
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 11:02 PM
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The opposite of black pill... Making the best out of bad situations, trusting yourself etc.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 11:01 PM
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... Which is why PUA's do push pull, i.e. push girls away to show you are a challenge, and before they get completely turned off, they pull them back in, rinse and repeat, girls go wild. True story. MGTOW yawns.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 11:00 PM
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True!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:59 PM
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I'm not sure, maybe, but I've seen it come up with few other posts so I just wanted to clear it up.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:58 PM
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MGTOW is not by definition celibacy though.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:57 PM
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I agree with you, there are also just basic based RP who are neither MGTOW or PUA, who are the biggest RP group imo. It's difficult to say what is what as all I have is my heuristics / anecdotes and no statistics so the post could be pointless too... I guess I just saw people saying Incels being RP a couple too many times. In here. I brought up them being BP without much response from anyone so I thought to post this. Could have been the two feminists in here, who knows :))
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:55 PM
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Feminists, lying? How could it be! Seriously though, I think the idea of Incels actually being black BP isn't extremely common... The side note also is that MGTOW is actually white pilled RP, i.e. focus on the best about a bad situation.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:41 PM
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You're going to have to elaborate on this one. high-end Silicone (not tpe) dolls are already there for texture, and the pussy inserts are so close to a Virgin pussy that you will not go back. So is TPE just regular silicone? What is the high end silicone called? How to know? Virgin pussy got me chuckling... I meant visually... I'm still displeased with the monotone skin color and the pussy looking just tad bit too artificial... I'm a pussy connoisseur, I can't help it! I get a similar result fro…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:39 PM
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Yes - Real men have very much to offer. Most women today have very little to offer as the society and boy-men praise her without anything just by the virtue of youth and beauty i.e. fertility she gets anything she wants. She needs to prove YOU that she is good enough to on a ride in your life. Again, most women, if you know your worth, have disqualified themselves. The burden of proof is on her Just this.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:19 PM
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Why do you need to do that in the first place? I'm upfront with: No marriage, no children, no living under the same roof, no drama, no manipulation, no bullshit. She doesn't have to know what MGTOW is. If she still wants to be FWB and we both like each other, then I can call her out when she crosses my boundaries and quickly end it if she can't handle it. I tell her that too - And when she does, she knows what's coming. It's only a very rare woman who is anti-relationship who can resists falling…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:15 PM
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Ironically pushing women away is many times the best pickup strategy in the world
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:08 PM
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YOU DO NOT
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:07 PM
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Fuck her. Go your own way.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:07 PM
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Didn't know there was a video..
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 10:06 PM
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I'm not in a hurry and this is just the first time I'm even contemplating these ideas... I can say that it makes me happy to know that I could still be a parent on day, maybe 10-20 years down the line even if I don't find a unicorn as I was pretty sad about that not being an option... Instead it seems that there are plenty of options, which is great. I haven't heard much about single men surrogating a child, but as I took a very quick look, there was plenty of men specific advice and the laws we…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 09:38 PM
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First time I hear about that sub, haven't been on Reddit for long though. Psyops happen, and the information warfare is pretty nutty so who knows
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 09:31 PM
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I agree with the both of you. DangZagnut, good point on identifying on different groups... MGTOW men don't identify with groups, not even MGTOW, they are their own man.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:54 PM
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I approve it.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:43 PM
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Probably
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:43 PM
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Your way might be over there -----> Ambassadorship Whatever else <----- My way is over there
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:39 PM
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Life as too short
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:37 PM
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If he was tall, he would still be as mad as he's not in the top 5% of Chads who get all the attention online.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:36 PM
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What are you talking about? They are our army of gatekeeper trolls at the gates keeping the hate at bay.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:32 PM
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Do not talk about Fight Club.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:30 PM
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I actually think Incels are black pilled blue pills
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:29 PM
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We even have an army of trolls guarding this gate of horror
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:28 PM
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It's also our (not very) Glorious gate to keep the evils of the world at bay!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:28 PM
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MGTOW original has been turned to an Incel central so that those who are ready can find MGTOW2 ;)
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:27 PM
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If you have evidence of threat of violence to you or your property and she is still harassing you, you can always call the cops yourself. Although it's pretty risky if she throws in the abuse card your way. Be careful brother! Oh yeah, I merely meant men of value. There'll be always enough chumps to be slaves. imo the US already turned to a 3rd world country on paper in 1971 when Nixon took the Dollar off the gold standard. It killed the US economy on paper and no matter how much they manipulate…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:11 PM
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Men need to stand up for themselves and call a spade a spade. Being critical of blind gynocentricism or celebrating the unique attributes and contributions of men, should not be interpreted as hateful towards women in the redpill community, even on MGTOW2. That's the way the bluepill world think. Word. There is a culture war going on. It's not the job of the redpill perspective to feebly fall in line with politically correct, bluepill, standards. It should set its own standards and talking point…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:01 PM
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Sure thing!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 01:56 PM
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Oh yeah, that is such a great point and very true. When you look at many native people's cultures, boys get their rites of passage very young, often at the age of 7-8 where the period with the most neuroplasticity has ended and the biological needs for nurturing have ended - From that one boys learn the ways of the men via hunting and other tasks men need to do to keep the tribe thriving. There is nothing to prevent a man being nurturing to an infant, albeit women indeed have better instincts fo…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 01:43 PM
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Easy way out exactly! Every time I've contemplated it, it has been presented as the easy option. Man up and get busy to fix the things that are wrong is the way to go - Whatever those things are. For some people it's introspection and therapy, for some people it's quitting boozing around and get a job... Whatever it takes is whatever you need to do! If you want to tell me about the details of it or speculate on some solutions or the reasons for it in the first place, feel completely free to thro…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 01:37 PM
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demand money back for a date they didn't like (and didn't pay for lmao) Excuse me WHAT? I'm so glad I've never bought a woman drink and whenever I've paid for a meal I've had her pay the next one. Fuck being someone's wallet unless your deal with them is that you pay for sex. And men haven't been raised aa men in this country, in general, for a long time. Gotta raise them to be controllable, emotionally manipulated pussies. Single moms raise pussies to take care of themselves. They care 0% if th…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 01:34 PM
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I've been about to tap out forever of life quite few times in my life. Don't do it man, it's just the depression talking and nothing more. When you get your life basics in order, i.e. your health and fitness, your money issues figured out and re-occupy your mind and spirit - You'll have it all back, meaning your will and joy to live, your self-respect and gratitude of being who you are. Whatever bad you are going through now and the shit you feel will propel you in the future as it becomes an ev…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 01:24 PM
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Oh I see, in that case I see no problems with it. Thanks for clearing that out for me!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 01:02 PM
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I guess mature RP people have it hard regardless of gender. For men it's that the women, young women, out there are completely spoiled rotten - And before they realize what went wrong they are hanging on to their last eggs (and looks). For women it's what you said, even there's a LOT of men to choose from, they so clueless and manipulated they are not Men to begin with... Or have been abused to not risk it anymore. I haven't been abused other than my mother figures and couple of girlfriends, but…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 12:52 PM
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Perfect name for your forever pretty Synt lady? Well Synthia of course!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 12:38 PM
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Hahaahah I'm pretty damn sure I'll embrace the Synth women sooner or later. I think I'm going to be on the fence until they get realistically textured skin and in general very lifelike feeling to the touch. Also the pussy needs to look really really good as I'm a sucker (of) for beautiful pussies.... An ability to moan would be good too. I want to be addressed by my MGTOW pronoun "Lord" and able to mute her at any point I choose. Perfection. About 5 years or a little more and we'll get there for…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 12:34 PM
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The highest outcome of schools I can think of is that it's basically a filtering system to find capable people for STEM fields... Other than that, basically indoctrination camps as you expressed. School snuffs creativity and curiosity out of children. I discovered the joy of learning a few years after my schooling. Something that was taken out by the school system. It bothers me to talk about all the cool things I've learned ever since with random people and am dismayed how many people associate…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 12:12 PM
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I don't fap or view adult entertainment by the way. That's great. I'm now about 40 days without ejaculating, been watching some porn though, but for me not ejaculating to it is a great victory in a war to get rid of it completely. Just came back from gym since a long time... Feels so damn great! I have a very addictive personality too, but it can definitely used for good when you'll figure out it's basically just a mix of curiosity, ambition and passion directed into the wrong ends... It's reall…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 12:03 PM
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NAWALT or AWALT, now that is the question. In case of getting your hopes up with someone, I wouldn't hesitate to date for at least 2 years in order to get to know their true Character, if they actually have one (Character is very different thing than Personality). Vet carefully overall and test to see how they deal with Red Pill ideas and be VERY observant with any red flags and don't let the small head down there do the talking over the big head on your shoulders. Develop and set of strict boun…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 11:51 AM
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The opposite of the dating profiles of real women, wow, everything is better about them it seems. j/k... or am I?
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 11:45 AM
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Damn. Hats off to you Sir!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:52 AM
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I don't want to consent to all those advertisement things, can you elaborate on this and what you did exactly as it sounds hilarious?
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:51 AM
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Funny how unpopular opinion sub has 666k members... I'm pretty sure that this idea mainstreams in 10 years or so and the situation corrects itself in a generation or two. This is largely why we are here.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:47 AM
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Hmmm... I do prefer the default Sir and like hearing it. Although given my almost complete Sovereign status with my life, I'd like to start hearing Lord a little more as in consideration regards of myself, I do declare that a title pronoun Lord for me is most suited.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:39 AM
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When I was about 12 I asked my literary teacher for a good sci-fi book, she recommended Dune. It was a great adventure indeed! Should definitely give another read now as an adult to catch those kinds of things
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:36 AM
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Oh, and my mother divorced my father who is a (really good man, but was quite broke) when I was about 7 years old. They both remarried, so I saw my father become whipped by his current wife - He could have succeeded really well if he had gone MGTOW as he is very talented and skillful in his field. My late step father was also a good man, old school, hard worker. My mother appreciated him, but he also accepted a pretty dominated position where I didn't see too much enjoyment and almost no freedom…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:31 AM
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Your message isn't long enough for TL;DR brother! Wow man. I hope you are very proud of your accomplishments!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:19 AM
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My life would have so much better and easier if my mother would have been more kind with my father and would have worked things out. My father is a wonderful man who is quite pinned down with his current wife. If he had gone MGTOW instead he'd be very successful. I hate to see my father the way he ended up.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:17 AM
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Btw. I just saw a pretty good video today on why would someone be MGTOW that I would give to any of my friends on the outside to explain why would someone go MGTOW: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QSwuqGERJSY
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:14 AM
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I haven't absolutely decided as there might be some Red Pilled unicorn somewhere, but given the choice RP women have on suitable men, statistically speaking, it is very low chance I will ever meet one that I'd approve off. Other than that I've always been very independent minded individual who values freedom and self-ownership above all else. I've slept with a lot of women and have had a couple girlfriends too and a few fuck buddies and it all just comes down to how women start behaving down the…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:12 AM
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Women tend to have their next guy all lined up. When my parents divorced I got a step father in the matter of weeks. The very little props to my mother I ever give is that my stepfather was an old school good man and a role model so at least she didn't choose badly there.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 07:54 AM
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I'm sort of the opposite as I don't give a damn if my parents want grand kids from me as it's not their place that kind of expectation upon me, but I on the other hand have some desire to father a child. I have this notion that I feel sad about my ancestors rather. Thinking back the line of men I come from and not continuing because some nutcases have temporarily taken over society seems sort of unjust. Adoption would be the most rational choice though as those unlucky kids need good people to t…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 07:51 AM
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I hear you and I do agree that adoption is the best choice What do you mean within 2 weeks? Two weeks of marriage?
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 07:32 AM
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Here's a video by a pick up artist who went to the streets and asked dozen people to name things where women were better than men and where men are better than women: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=oxpX6IQ3GY4 Most women answering (if not all) were so deeply programmed to highlight women over men that drew a COMPLETE blank when recognizing ANYTHING men do better than women. To the further note on the overall point of my post of which some seemed to not comprehend. Whether or not men are actually b…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 07:05 AM
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I was expecting to see this comment and here it is. I've surely thought along the same lines, but once you do better yourself you'll see the world and life isn't that bad. It's all temporary anyway and I know for sure that if I was to father a kid, adopted or my own blood, I know I would do so much better than single moms who cause young adults to be miserable. If it hadn't been my fathers insight and everything he told me I'd be in a dark place and struggling with the corrupt side of the world …
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 06:41 AM
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Great video! - I love the style in editing and your voice and attitude is perfect. I hope you keep up making videos and people discover you more. Super big thanks to carne apache too brother! I've been looking into ways to consume meat raw after watching a lot of videos from Youtuber by the name of sv3rige and this is perfect for me since I buy high quality ground beef every now and then, but am sad how boring it tends to become when cooked. Going to buy some limes today!!!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 05:56 AM
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I was wondering how you'd be able to point out to a month old post on the first sub... And I wanted to thank the author, so thank you brother! Lawyer as a middle man makes very much sense. What do you think about the fact that if a man surrogates, he has access to the identity of the mother the whole time... I'm a bit troubled with the idea of sort of denying a child this information during their youth. Especially if the child wants to know (and which child wouldn't?) Wouldn't it be legally pret…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 05:42 AM
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There's a great article on The Art of Manliness blog on the topic of making the whole Thumos concept easier to understand. I do need to learn to let go of attachment and be more observant. We all do, brother! Don't be too hard on yourself as you are not alone and remember that you are also attached to the idea that you need to let go of attachment. I don't personally advice on trying to go too hard on the idea of letting go of all attachment and desire. I was at some point much too monk minded, …
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 05:32 AM
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Additionally, it's great to combine cooking with something like Paleo diet principles which rely on you to actually cook your food yourself since it's mostly centered on the idea of buying real ingredients instead of manufactured BS that our grandparents wouldn't have recognized as food. These two combined will make you "old school" where you no longer buy unhealthy crap that only makes you develop health conditions in the long run. You'll also become potentially less dependent on the food indus…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 05:12 AM
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Cooking is a great skill-set to have indeed. I started living on my own at age 16 and I still remember I used to know almost nothing about cooking, burning neglected pasta into the kettle and not knowing how to boil eggs... A decade and a half later I can cook like a beast even if it's something I've never cooked before. Now I can just smell a new ingredient and know instantly all about how to use it with anything else based on the aroma alone - Much of cooking is about developing your palette o…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 05:00 AM
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Looks like he posted on the wrong MGTOW sub! Thanks for catching it as it was a good read on surrogacy, makes a lot of sense what he outlined.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:35 AM
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Money first is obvious, but cannot stressed enough! Definitely not doing this now, mostly just expanding available life options down the road as well as interested to hear if someone here has taken these things further or thought about it extensively... Adoption would perhaps be the most ethical thing to do indeed.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:08 AM
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I've watched some Sandman before, but never stumbled into those vids I guess, I'll check it out. Thanks for the tip.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:02 AM
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bahahahahahaha
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 04:00 AM
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True! I regret my late 20's not getting laid. It's all about finding those who just want your D. Use condoms. Never go raw.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:59 AM
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Wow she really put in some effort into it. That cheered me up in some weird way. What's the sexy girl capital?
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:57 AM
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Dolls in 5-10 years are going to be incredible. I've taken a look at the best models out there right now and damn - They're really getting there.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:53 AM
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Fuck buddies are great indeed. And yes, commitment kills sex because a big part of sex is the insecurity about the situation. Sure when you really love and appreciate someone, having sex with them is a drug like nothing else, but eventually even to that environment complacency creeps in and as those feelings subside, so does sex
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:50 AM
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I've had some friends like that too, it's the honest friendship between a man and a woman and it is great. When you think about it, normal relationships are so agenda driven (in a bad way) in comparison
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:43 AM
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Make sure you are not a porn addict and ejaculate too much. That robbed me countless years of motivation being in chronic post-cum depression. The irony is that after a while without this behavior, you feel less uncontrollably horny and think about women all the time as your body learns to deal with its new biochemical environment. I'm approaching my mid 30's and I still have very high sex drive and I feel your pain.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:39 AM
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You are referring to that they are, I made a whole post about how the current trend points of to the outcome of women actually becoming the master citizen class and men becoming a slave class, kind of like the Greek society was constructed (although there women were step higher than slaves)
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:18 AM
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"My mind is programmed to spit on you, but my body is designed to suck it right after" Couldn't help myself.
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:15 AM
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Secret internet censor police reaching out for dangerous sub groups of (terrorists!!!! :)) in reddit now?
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:13 AM
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Whenever I've seen your nickname on the post, I've usually liked what I've read. Don't censor yourself brother!
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:12 AM
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Basically all it takes is to stop pandering and repeating what is politically correct and taking a honest look. MGTOW men, if anyone, should quickly come to see the reality of the situation we are in. Communism by gender, hmmm - a very interesting way to put it! I've been wondering why it is so heavily associated with extreme leftism, but this is telling. When you look at feminism being a revenge movement of low SMV (and maybe even more notable especially RMV) women, it explains quite many thing…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:10 AM
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Yes. And when you look at emotions in nature - It is the operation system of basically all mammals. Mammals utilize the emotional brain in order to survive and construct their group affairs. Only a few of them are capable of reason and problem solving. And even though it is important to be emotionally intelligent and capable, it is not the highest adaptation we have. The generalization you brought up is exactly one of the outcomes of nature distributing abilities based on a gender role that best…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 03:00 AM
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Yes, but MGTOW is part of the manosphere and redpill community, so it should not shy away from making dispassionate observations about the world, just because they might be politically incorrect. Indeed, this is the reason why RP exists in the first place. I'd argue that political correctness is harmful to society currently more than it is useful. In the area of gender dynamics, that will sometimes require making generalisations about men and women. It does not mean that exceptions do not exist,…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:52 AM
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I'm not sure if it explains schools, but it is indeed interesting to think about schools from this point of view. Did you have more thoughts regarding this?
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:35 AM
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My argument is wider than that - All you need to do is, like many critical MGTOW / RP men before me, is to recognize that men have basically built almost everything you see before you. The average IQ distributions between men and women is quite different as men have a higher range of distributed IQ (both to the idiot direction as well as savant direction) while women are mostly on the average, which partially explains that men have built everything, but not the entirety of it - I believe much of…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:34 AM
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I concur very much indeed The first time I read evolutionary biology I was thrilled first of all to find literature to describe human beings as just another animal as I've always been curious to perspectives that are larger picture than from within our points of view. Looking at our behavior from a point of view of an alien is very helpful to see things objectively and to avoid cultural dogmas and taboos coloring the lenses of your perspective and ultimately see things more as they are and thus …
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 02:27 AM
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Good reminder!
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:45 PM
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You sound exactly like me in my early 20's. You are young, you have high minded ambitious, you probably have high sex drive too. The Greeks called this having a lot of Thumos. The Greeks thought that a man had Nous (reason, thoughts, reflections, questioning), Thumos (manly drive for glory and honor) and Epithumia (appetites or desires) A wise and great man would use his Nous (reason) to balance between Thumos and Epithumia. If the man had too much desire, he would be a slave to food, drink, sex…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:45 PM
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What makes this post a PUA post? I am responding to multiple posts with struggling young guys who keep thinking women are above them. I've pointed out how, if we look at biology, men shouldn't treat women being above them it being against the natural order of biology. It is a better outlook for men to understand so they get themselves out of subservient mentalities. This also helps them go MGTOW easier, as they might have easier time realizing that the perceived supreme value on women is cultura…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:18 PM
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I did not argue for male supremacy. I argue for not being a slave to the culture that lies on female supremacy and to take on objective view on biology.
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:12 PM
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Then obviously you've never read about evolutionary biology that looks at homo sapiens from the point of view where we are just animal species, organisms, inhabiting on this planet. If this doesn't interest you, that's OK, you can go read something else.
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:10 PM
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Thanks for your highly insightful feedback
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:08 PM
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I'm a very curious minded person, love to educate myself and am more of a "Renaissance man" I like to read and self educate myself on psychology, philosophy, STEM fields and many others to understand big pictures of how the world works on many levels and as complex systems. To me, there is nothing odd about this.
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 06:08 PM
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Great work! It is always best policy to be up front with your boundaries. This way those who disagree overtly can do so and you save a lot of time. Those who disagree covertly, i.e. accept up front, but "change their mind" later, You can always go firmly back you having been already up front with her so you have yourself covered. Being up front about boundaries also help against being gas-lighted pretty well, or slowly manipulated.
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 05:34 PM
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I thought "manosphere" doesn't have leaders... I just started reading Game by Roosh. I'm too much in the beginning to tell much, but his opening thoughts and warnings on the risks and the current situation with feminism and RP stuff is very much on point. I might come back to this thread when I'm further in the book.
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 05:26 PM
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If you decide to live life like I described, then you are back being who you are. When you have that, you no longer feel needy about filling the void with a woman. Doing so, you can assess better if a woman (any woman, if at all) is worthy to be taken for a ride in Your World. That is the only dynamic where women can feel happy. Women's fantasy is to be taken for a ride. That's why girls like horses that take them on adventures. That's why women run away with Chads who can offer them a ride and/…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 05:23 PM
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I agree with AnotherPhilosopher. It might be helpful to revisit you interests in your past BEFORE you got your second flush of testosterone. Those years between 8-12 years old before your little head hijacked your bigger head. Look for clues on what you liked to do: I was beyond passionate crazy about extreme sports, fishing, wandering in nature, building things, playing war games with my friends, reading some magazines related to my hobbies, making computer graphics etc. I still love all of tha…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 05:19 PM
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Read this as well, I wrote it with you and couple other guys in mind with similar problems: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/cha15n/read_this_if_you_struggle_with_women_the_case/
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 04:01 PM
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It's not you, it's that you were in a club. Only the biggest, most handsome, 6'4 Chad with a great smile would hold a woman's attention in a club like you expected. I'm serious with this - I have done a lot of clubbing in my life to get some lays and fuck buddies. I have a friend who matches the above description. Usually I get moderate to high attention, depending on what I'm wearing and if I'm in a great mood, (I'm pretty good looking 6'2) but walking around with him, I saw women gawk at him a…
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 01:04 PM
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How does one get to the summit?
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 12:15 PM
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It's so cool to be above low hanging clouds like that... And knowing how cameras generally suck at sunset/sunrises... That must have been SPECTACULAR experienced on the spot!
/r/MGTOW224/07/19 12:47 AM
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What's wrong with face sitting?
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 06:25 PM
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This offence may include any non-consensual: penetration that would not meet the definition of rape, sexual touching, any form of sexual activity (whether or not through clothing), ejaculation of semen or emission of urine/saliva onto a person for sexual purposes. You did not refute what I was saying. Like her, you cherry picked a portion of the law "ejaculation of semen or emission of urine/saliva onto a person for sexual purposes." while ignoring what I was actually arguing for... You have to …
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 06:23 PM
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An ELI5 explanation of this was exactly what I was looking for - What a great answer. Thank you for taking the time to write it. I'm very interested in STEM fields, especially in physics and mathematics, but unfortunately for me my sex drive has always been too high to be able to have devoted enough focused time and energy to cover what I'd need to study to build a more robust in foundation. I'm left with mostly non-mathematically expressed verbal descriptions I do have relatively high capacity …
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 01:28 PM
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I could walk in there Monday and tell them to all go fornicate themselves with an iron rod, and I'd still be fine financially. This is called "fuck you money" - Everyone should have at least 6 months worth of it so they can always tell a bad employer or other abusers to fuck off. My old friend who has a family (where his wife has decided to get separated because she says she doesn't like how my bud is unable to say no to her and they've been talking about split custody), has a rather rare specia…
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 12:31 PM
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Yes, I remember Rip talking about this and it's a very important thing for someone living alone!
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 12:19 PM
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I'm curious for more information why diamond patterns / shape specifically?
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 08:52 AM
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Great post!
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 08:50 AM
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Mark Rippetoe is a great piece of advice, he is a legend strength coach who is worth his salt! He argues that seniors should also train for strength because it will make everything else in life better and easier.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 07:37 AM
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Damn I'm trying to rack my brain hard and trace where I potentially found this one guy who no longer did YT videos, but his channel was very much suited for you. He was big on being outside in nature and taking care of his health and physical fitness and had overall great senior friendly perspectives. In a lot of his videos he is wandering in nature or cross-country skiing etc. where it is filmed first person. I'm commenting because maybe someone else would remember or that I'll find this thread…
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 07:34 AM
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I agree - It is the curiosity that drives our species and the lack of it that is what makes a zombie a zombie. For long I've taken the zombie theme in movies and series to symbolically represent the unconscious masses inadvertently being dangerous to the few capable, self orienting individuals surviving among the zombies herding in shopping malls, city centers etc.
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 07:03 AM
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Where do vices come from? Can you be more specific with what you mean by this? Why would a person want to live a virtuous life based upon what you're telling me? What is there to gain now and later, if this is believed to be the end all be all? I already expressed some of the reasons why developing virtues would be a good idea, the more virtuous you are, the better you feel about yourself. Virtues are basically synonymous to building your character in a positive way, vices do not take character …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 05:15 AM
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I see. This is honestly the first description I have read about MGTOW. I gotta say, it's far from wrong. Only a fool would neglect to see marriage as a way of seriously exposing himself to potential lifelong misery especially in this day and age. This is exactly the reason for MGTOW. The first MGTOW sub got hijacked by hateful RP trolls and Incels who use it to spew vile shit which is sometimes funny, most of the time just bitter and pathetic. What I provided you as a definition is the real defi…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 05:00 AM
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I agree and thank you for pointing this out. I've thought about going to therapy before and so far have made great progress by myself, but I think you are completely right that therapy would help me so I'll definitely go for it soon enough!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 04:27 AM
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I enjoy racist and sexist jokes, and I believe no race or sex should be free of them. I agree!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 04:23 AM
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I'm considering it due to someone else also pointing it out
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 04:21 AM
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I promised in the OP that I am an honest person - And I do completely understand your skepticism as the way I structured my post was liable to cause such reaction in hindsight - You had no reason to trust me. I understand virtue in a classic Greek sense where a virtues are seen as the very backbone that makes a moral human being. Virtues such as honesty, integrity, loyalty to people who deserve it, being courageous, striving for becoming wise, being just and having moderation and temperance. The…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 04:20 AM
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You can consider yourself lucky - And on the other hand I understand this is not about luck at all. Could you please let me know what makes a person a unicorn for you?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 04:05 AM
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I'm not saying these things here to seek counseling, I am stating them as facts about my personal history.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 04:02 AM
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I most certainly admit that my post was a misstep of me being a bit too excited to post here and not reading enough RPW posts to fully comprehend your positions. I would have ended up written a very different post and like someone here pointed out, not express all about my SMV and instead would have balanced out with my actual RMV, despite me having had a lot of short relationships in my life etc. Thank you for being so kind and considerate
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 04:01 AM
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Technically MGTOW2 is not an offshoot of MGTOW, it is an actual MGTOW sub that is not the woman hating shitshow that r/MGTOW became when Incels, RP rage boys and other women haters took over it, that unfortunately people mistake as MGTOW. MGTOW is nothing but men who think they shouldn't marry or live under the same roof with women in order to avoid all the risks of marriage being so heavily stacked against men when it comes to divorces as so many MGTOW men have personally experienced loss of we…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:58 AM
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Absolutely agree on this, modern feminism deserves the lion's share of the blame for the pathetic state of male-female relations in our society, especially among us millenials. But that doesn't mean you can blame this abstract concept "feminism" on the fact that you're so shitty and unattractive that no girl wants to even make eye contact with you. Fully agreed! That is an incredibly sympathetic and charitable statement to make especially as a woman. On the subject of these incel dudes, there ar…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:44 AM
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I promised to be honest. Successful marriage takes so much more luck than it used to, hence we are all very careful when it comes to selecting partners.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:28 AM
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When it comes to US/Canadian men going RP and AWALT has reasons in how Feminism has been able to tilt divorce courts into almost "women win by default" rubber stamp institutions. Good men are denied to see their kids, their wealth gets destroyed in the process and there are so many women who profess infidelity like it was a sport. In my opinion, women and men go RP for basically the same reasons - As a reaction against promiscuous, anti-nuclear family culture and social climate of the Western wo…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:27 AM
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I think my trust issues are warranted, but when it comes to abandonment issues and emotional vulnerability are something I do agree I could indeed benefit from some therapy. Thanks for your input!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:21 AM
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They used to mean validation when I was young and foolish, now they mean nothing, but I wanted to bring it up because I want to be completely honest - And I have reaped what I have sown in here with a lot of backlash as you can easily see if you go through some of the posts in this thread.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:18 AM
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Most MGTOW men have been betrayed by their spouses who have also denied access to their children. I'd think any RPW would know the reality of the general dating pool men deal with as well as how it is vice versa. ​ Shaming me for being a bachelor doesn't achieve anything, especially as you don't know the full reason why I am a bachelor in the first place. I've explained it to other people in here who have been less hostile
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:16 AM
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I can relate to this very much as I was determined not to share the fate of my father with the bad relationship with my mother. My mother is a very egotistical, controlling, manipulative and the most selfish person I know. At the young age I became committed to the idea that I do absolutely everything not to repeat my father's mistakes and pass on the issues to my children - I am still committed to the idea that I need to stop the generational cycle of these traumas and cannot bear myself to thi…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 03:11 AM
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I did not say "just take care of yourself", I was talking about a lifelong commitment of devoting yourself obtaining virtue as a human being and taking others in the consideration. This is exceptionally rare today. Maybe we don't understand the word virtue in the same way.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:57 AM
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How is commitment to building virtue in life a low standard?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:54 AM
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Most of these women I slept with were in my early 20's. I found a highly suitable woman in my early 20's who effectively showed me that there are relationship worthy women out there, I saw myself having a family with her, but our relationship got broken by external reasons. This broke my heart for almost a decade and I've been mostly off the dating pool working on financial freedom so I could fulfill my dream of location freedom. After my relationship with her I also became completely uninterest…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:52 AM
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The sub I post in is r/MGTOW2 I'll restate again that r/MGTOW got overtaken by Incels, RP rage boys and other woman haters and has almost nothing to do with MGTOW.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:47 AM
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PS. I don't respect those "men" either.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:46 AM
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I don't agree to almost anything on r/MGTOW, which got overrun by Incels, PR ragers and other woman haters. I only post on r/MGTOW2 that specifically rules against such behavior which is quite similar when it comes to this sub when it comes to quality of thought and general standards.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:46 AM
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I saw somewhere else you wrote you were traumatized in the past so I do want to apologize for the attitude, the nature of the internet is such that is so easy to become a douche. With that said, I'm sure by now it has been made clear how this came off to this sub, it looked like you came here to seek validation from the only women you respect (red pilled). I completely understand and take no offense as the backlash was entirely deserved. Also I've enjoyed a lot of hilarious "offensive" content o…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:43 AM
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Feel free to PM me advice if you really want to, I read it is against the rules for men to create posts seeking advice as this is a women's space and men should go to TRP for advice and I understand and agree to this. For your question: Like I've stated, I am very sympathetic to RPW as I see they are doing really valuable work in the dark times of modern society that has become anti-family and anti-stable relationship in so many ways. I have personally suffered because of it greatly which is wha…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:35 AM
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Even I said I am not seeking advice, your flight risk point and many other things other people have said here has been good points. I'm not entirely convinced I would need a therapist, but I welcome suggestions if you know a specific type of therapy and elaborate on what you mean by "managing concerns" exactly
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:24 AM
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I appreciate your point of view and mostly agree with you. However I don't consider myself a "full" MGTOW in this regard as I am not absolutely against the idea of marrying and having children per say. I would really love that and hold myself in the MGTOW camp mostly to learn about the risks as my income is also all about risk management. On a community level I agree with your reasoning completely and understand where you are coming from. In this sense RPW and MGTOW are completely incompatible, …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:20 AM
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Agreed
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:12 AM
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I agree, but I consider the white man joke quite cruel considering the cultural climate of today.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:11 AM
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I actually do understand why many internet men run into terrible people as most of them are basically pieces of shit themselves and like attracts like - This is also why I take much of the MGTOW information with grain of salt as many of them married the completely wrong woman and are now extrapolating that to be true to all women, which I don't believe can be true. However, there is much solid thinking in r/MGTOW2, i.e. the actual MGTOW men (the first sub was overtaken by shitposting Incels and …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:10 AM
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I understand your point and I should have been a little more specific of me identifying with MGTOW (more specifically r/MGTOW2) I haven't been as lucky to see that many good examples of successful relationships in my life, am a child of divorce and have seen both my father figures having experienced a pretty raw deal in their lives. Most of my friends who married ended up getting dumped by their wives seeking someone else to fill the void inside them. Either way, like I stated in OP, I consider …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 02:05 AM
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r/MGTOW sub is absolute gutter garbage. I do not take any part in it. It was overtaken by Incels, RP ragers and other women hating trolls. Where I post is r/MGTOW2 of which rules are specifically set against the bad behavior at the overtaken fist MGTOW sub. You can find discussions similar to here in that sub - Women are also similarly welcome to post there as men are here and I've personally given benefit of the doubt to some feminists who come to post there. None of these threads have been loc…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:57 AM
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I've already met a perfect woman but got separated from due to external reasons, which broke my heart for almost a decade. Most of the number 40 of the women I've been with happened in my early 20's. During my healing process I haven't engaged with women much at all as I've focused in self development, advancing my financial independence etc. so that I won't be constrained on such things later in life meanwhile learning all I can to be the best man I can be.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:53 AM
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Like I stated, I am in the MGTOW camp ( r/MGTOW2 , which is completely different than the idiots at r/MGTOW which isn't even MGTOW anymore instead of just red pill ragers and Incels ) because I am very careful when it comes to relationships as I take relationships very seriously and don't want to repeat the mistakes of my father figures who got served a very raw deal. This along with how many Feminists and BP women there are, being MGTOW is a rational place to be in. Not all men who are there st…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:50 AM
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Having both of my father figures end up in terrible relationships with women, being a child of divorce initiated by my mother while my mother being generally a terrible person who has never said anything positive about my father, who is one of the best and good men I've ever known, along with how prevalent Feminism and BP women abusing marital laws etc. has indeed made me very cautious whether I can trust a woman. On top of this I already met someone really amazing in my early 20's, the one rela…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:46 AM
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I am not aware of what you mean by this
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:41 AM
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I am afraid of relationships due to very bad examples in terms of what happened to my father figures, the fact that I am a child of divorced parents and the fact how prevalent Feminism and abusive BP women have become. Being careful / afraid in this cultural climate is being smart, especially when it comes to what happen to men who choose wrong women to marry these days.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:40 AM
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I wasn't equipped with your foresight, I appreciate the feedback and apologize for the lack of consideration. Just to be clear however, I have nothing to do with r/MGTOW and I only post on r/MGTOW2 which is explicitly NOT for the woman bashing idiots / Incels who took over the first MGTOW sub. Genuine MGTOW men would absolutely LOVE to see RPW take over the world and they would stop being MGTOW if RPW became mainstream once more... So in that sense I disagree MGTOW and RPW being incompatible whe…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:37 AM
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Thanks for being respectful!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:32 AM
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Great point! I fully admit that I basically gave you a laundry list of SMV qualities as this is the kind of thinking I've engaged most with as I've been afraid of relationships in my life. I wrote this elsewhere in this thread, but it is relevant here: My parents divorced when I was 7 years old. As a kid and a teen I thought I was fine with it, but one day when I as 16 watching other teens hooking up with each other in the local park as we used to do where I lived in, I came up with this thought…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:31 AM
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Okay. I'm going to take the time to try to break it down for you instead of straight up insulting you. ​ Thank you for your kind consideration The particular attributes you decided to list to prove your "high value" gives off the impression that you perceive women as superficial, shallow creatures who look at a man and want to know his height, salary, and penis size, first and foremost. That presumption is insulting to a group of smart, emotionally intelligent, kind, loving, three dimensional hu…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:24 AM
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I hear you, in r/MGTOW2 where I mainly write in, such posts are not taken down however. I have entertained feminists claiming they want to know our perspectives and giving them the benefit of the doubt. None of these OP's have been deleted and discussions have gone as far as people have been interested in participating in them. I don't interact in r/MGTOW because it is full of anti-woman hatred RP rage boys and Incels who unfortunately have done a lot of damage to MGTOW. I understand it seems li…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:08 AM
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> Pretty sure a deep desire to commit and men going their own way are incompatible ideas by definition. I already wrote my reasoning to be MGTOW for the time being in the OP. Yes, I understand what you mean by this, but like I stated earlier, it is mostly due to realism on my statistical likelihood of finding a non-BP woman IRL. I'm sensing that you're not actually MGTOW, and instead jaded/suspicious about relationships yet still desiring one deep down, and here hoping a unicorn will change your…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:04 AM
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I would love you to be more specific on what you mean by ignorance. My intention is not to impress, not to be arrogant. After having read many of the OP's in the sub wondering about high value male perspective, I merely qualified myself as one. I do not want to women to "land me" here, as I've specified in the OP. What does a high quality man mean to you?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:57 AM
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Honestly, it's been my experience and observation that many women factor in looks when it comes to their idea of high value men. It is also true that many women don't care much about looks. Some do, so I included it in the information I chose to share.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:54 AM
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Thank you for a good question. You already guessed it - My parents divorced when I was 7 years old. As a kid and a teen I thought I was fine with it, but one day when I as 16 watching other teens hooking up with each other in the local park as we used to do where I lived in, I came up with this thought that if I did not proceed to fully understand women, men and relationships, I would end up 40 years old, divorced with couple of kids with a broken family, just like I had. This is one of the main…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:52 AM
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I did not see this to be in the rules, but I also read that you have a system of benevolent dictatorship, which I agreed upon. I am not here to develop friendships, just here to share perspective and learn in the process. I'm also answering to everyone respectfully, regardless of the content of their responses. And as stated, I highly appreciate women who take RP and am friendly to the cause.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:47 AM
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I'll take the latter having bad social skills and not enough knowledge on this sub and how women think in here. I've been traumatized in my life by women, but it doesn't take away the fact that I am a good man and keep on learning new things and developing myself, so yes, it makes sense I've associated myself with MGTOW men for support and to help some of them out with my life experience and perspective. I already stated my MGTOW reasoning in the OP.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:44 AM
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I'm glad you've had a good laugh about it
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:41 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by removing my useless posts. I have no expectations on women fawning over me in here, nor any problems most of them have been responding me with hostility instead of giving me the benefit of the doubt.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:40 AM
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What is your reason to be Red Pilled?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:38 AM
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I'd like you to be more specific on what exactly I need the therapy for
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:37 AM
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I have not stated I want a woman who hasn't been the "whore" as you label me. Unlike many red pill rage MGTOW, I don't think women in modern society are whores if they've had a lot of sexual partners, nor do I hold it against them. I don't agree to shaming people based on their "body count".
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:37 AM
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I completely disagree, but I am not here to argue with you as I seem to have communicated badly in the OP, given to how many negative responses I've gotten so far. However, everything I've stated there is true. I would like to specify on what you mean by my demeanor and why it is offensive to you?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:34 AM
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This is highly possible and I acknowledge it. Like I said, I had one amazing relationship that ended due external reasons. What I didn't tell in the OP that it broke my heart and shot me into depression for almost a decade. I fully admit that I am afraid of the negative consequences of choosing a wrong mate like all my father figures in my childhood did. These men ended up in horrible relationships that resembles nothing what RPW would offer. This is a huge part of the reason why I came to this …
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:29 AM
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I have completely understood this about RPW and as I've stated I would love to attain such a relationship myself, but I have also exactly stated why I have to be skeptical for my chances to ever obtain myself such relationship due to reasons I already explained. Hence my current position as a MGTOW. which I frankly find to reflect an oversimplified perception of what we care about when searching for a mate I appreciate your input and this is one of the things I'm hoping to learn about RPW, as al…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:23 AM
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Good question that is quite difficult to answer, but I'll try my best. I don't think being a unicorn is down to a small thing that one does differently, so I'll rule that out first. The reason is that I think being a unicorn is about the overall, whole attitude a person has in life. You either love yourself and live obtaining virtue and good characteristics, including the desire to be a great partner for your equal significant other and upkeep your investment in yourself and your SO and your fam…
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:18 AM
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I honestly thought it would have a better reception given all the posts I've read on the sub so far. I think RPW are doing important work and I am very supportive to the efforts.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:09 AM
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Most women aren't worth it. Wouldn't any RPW generally agree to this statement?
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:08 AM
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You can also G and read what I wrote under the segment "Why MGTOW" for my reasoning to label myself as such. I am single and happy about it, yet doubtful about AWALT argument by most MGTOW men. In an ideal world I would be already married and have a beautiful family with a great woman.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:07 AM
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I write only r/MGTOW2 as r/MGTOW is what you refer to. You might want to see "Why MGTOW" where I've clearly stated my reasoning for it. I am not confused, and I think your comment is inappropriate and disrespectful.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 12:05 AM
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Oh damn, I did not even think about radical feminists (or just feminists) acquiring more and more law degrees... Uh oh. Yes, I actually thought about such micro agreement type society emerging especially when we get Web 3.0 and cryptocurrency protocols meshed together. Legal disputes proven on an immutable ledger might actually become a practical solution to these kinds of issues where currently we can only have word against word without any record of an event. In the future records of events co…
/r/MGTOW223/07/19 12:03 AM
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Indeed, I have not offered any solutions as the solution is MGTOW. I wish you well brother!
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 11:59 PM
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I completely agree on what you wrote and practice the very same approach as you described. I've rid myself of group associations namely because I tried to find a group to fit in since I was a teenager and never found one I could fully agree and thus identify myself with. I ended up red pilling myself at a young age realizing the social rules were just a mutually non-verbally agreed upon constructs people followed and heeded blindly. I realized these people believed what other people signaled the…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 10:05 PM
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See this video I recently posted on this sub> https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/cf3cf7/nobody_gives_a_shit_about_you_and_its_great/ This video I linked speaks pretty directly to the problem you illustrate. I'll take the opportunity here to present an another angle others are unlikely to mention. I'm not saying the following is your problem, but it could be. You know if it is or isn't. Your issues might come from general social anxiety. This might or not sound silly to you at least at firs…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 09:52 PM
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I think I've seen the video you are talking about. Just imagine what an impossible job to have to be a matchmaker to these women..
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 09:32 PM
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All I was saying is that spraying cum on her face if is actually doesn't like it isn't worth it. imo, it's very much akin to a woman sticking a finger up your ass if you don't like a finger up your ass. Many of them want to do it while many straight men cannot accept it. You cannot call the police over it, but it certainly can feel like she violated you just to please herself... ... If however we are talking about a woman who wants you to come on her face, that is great not just that it makes yo…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 09:30 PM
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Think about how men behave with very hot women. It is exactly the same. This is only surprising to people who still have beliefs that women are somehow special and pure when it comes to sexual behavior. ... Someone said somewhere, that men basically project their idealization of what love is and associate it with beautiful women. The unconscious rationale is that if she's externally perfect, there is a tendency to see her reflecting the feelings and fantasies the man has about what a perfect lov…
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 08:43 PM
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Completely true and correct. What is interesting is that even if he is objectively of low value, if other women flock to him, they will value him - it is *that* much they are incapable of judgement with their own brain. In PUA circles this falls under a concept of "social proof" as in, women will be attracted to you if you have hot women enjoying your company as it is an indicator of you being high status. Other high status social signals are part of "social proof" as well such as knowing the ow…
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 08:42 PM
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> If they were not good for business, we wouldn't even be here or be having this discussion. True that. Add the fact that there are more females, so to appease them politically is a good strategy to have.
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 08:22 PM
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True, the feminists don't recognize the wall though, so it does not stop them for taking society to the direction indicated.
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 08:18 PM
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unless she wants to be a bitch and drag it all out Before you reveal her your intentions, I highly recommend you watch this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xZuyH11Wy40
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 08:02 PM
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These are the good ol days. What an awesome way to look at it and what a great approach to life. Have a good one brother!
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:56 PM
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The foundation for it is only few legal steps away as I wrote to someone else here. And as I wrote in a further note to the OP, the OP was meant to precisely paint the picture of what it would look like if feminism was let to run its course uninterrupted, just to provide a lens to look at feminist arguments through from. In that clarification I illustrated that any political force is often met with an equal and opposite counter force, just like Newton's III law in physics. However, when it comes…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:41 PM
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As you were sarcastic, my intention was basically to joke about it as well. It would lead to mind-boggling sex though!
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:30 PM
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Ahhh, didn't realize I already had that whole discussion with you before! I think that once the US gets rid of the war on drugs on Federal level, things in Mexico might actually turn up pretty good similar to what happened to Colombia after Escobar's reign was over. I've heard so many good things about how Colombians turned their country around after having lived under terror for such turbulent times. When people get free from living under violent regimes, having it removed makes them build pret…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:28 PM
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Her association with pump and dump with disrespecting women (while women can do pump and dump with men all day without them ever being called out being disrespectful for men) and also her bringing up her assumptions that we watch misogynistic porn by default was pretty much a dead giveaway for her being a feminist. I basically wanted to see if she was someone who had gotten the indoctrination, but being here with some questions and thus having doubts about it and trying to fact check what she wa…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:18 PM
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Thanks bot, but I am doing very well now!
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:12 PM
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Great essay brother! I love the way you described how the patriarchal system made civil society possible and for what exact reasons. It makes so much sense how this very agreement is the backbone of successful civilization. The way feminists would restructure it would / will lead to mere temporary advantage towards women who want to rule, but it won't create stability against the forces of entropy embedded in trying to go against the very nature of human beings - It cannot be run in a stable fas…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:11 PM
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Well put. Fairy tale lies are the worst kind of lies.
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 06:32 PM
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It feels so good to be on the other side of that. Feel and see your confidence soaring, your reasoning having been correct after all these years of gas-lighting feels liberating. The knowledge you never have to interact with people who manipulate you as you become effective in filtering them out before they build any influence over you is incredibly valuable. Whatever pain you need to feel and address before this is worth it as once you get past the negative emotions, you can really take control…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 06:31 PM
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I wanted to create a r/MGTOW2 appreciation post earlier just because it is so refreshing to load up responses for you without the usual nervous feeling of being confronted when you post whatever online. These days (hello these_days_bot!) whenever you write what you think online in most places will always yield you mostly confrontational responses, even if it's about neutral topics... ... In here, the majority of responses aren't confrontational first, substance second, it's the other way around …
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 06:28 PM
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After just a quick look, I've learned that whoever she was also accusing of this denied it and Kavanaugh did not fail a polygraph test where he was specifically asked questions about the matter. Not to mention how old the case is.... "Ford is a registered Democrat who has made small contributions to political organizations.[8] In 2017, she participated in a local Women's March protesting President Trump[12] and attended a March for Science in San Francisco to protest the Trump administration's c…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 06:23 PM
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I want to clarify that this is mostly a thought exercise on what a nation would look like if feminism as it currently is would be let run its course freely. History shows that any significant societal/cultural force ends up developing a counter force much akin to a Newton's Third Law "When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body." i.e. a political force of feminism will conjure an equal…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 05:21 PM
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Correct. I live in an EU country where the situation is not like this in practice and am not worried about this happening to me due to practical reality of it not really happening to almost anyone... yet. Many Americans extrapolate their horrific situation to all Western countries and I just have to point out that it is not that bad yet to say that this happens in all of Western world. Most European countries are still thankfully free of this corruption when it comes to practical legal situation…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 05:13 PM
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If you'd describe the world of applied law today to a man who lived in the 1960's, he'd laugh at your face. Never underestimate BP and white knight desire to let a woman control them.
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 05:03 PM
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Exactly. And as I argue above, run this condition too far and men will become slaves even they never encounter that crazy girl or do not engage with women at all. All you needed was a legal structure where any sort of offense and ultimately a thought crime against a woman (by her own interpretation) would be enough to reduce all your rights to nothing. You could wear wrong color shirt and end up becoming government property.
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 05:01 PM
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Because nothing makes a woman wetter than asking her permission every three seconds. This is the only thing I disagree with what you said as I think it's the polar opposite. Nothing dries a woman up faster than asking her permission every three seconds. ... Which is the reason why I think all this consent nonsense as it is literally against women's actual, biological sexual instincts and pleasure. The only ones getting off to this are the bottom 20% of women, the female incels called feminists n…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:55 PM
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I think a scenario in the US could take place for example like this: Trump wins 2020, feminists and liberal leftists go increasingly radical, an extreme leftist populist wins 2024. It ain't gonna happen. I interpret that to mean "over my dead body", which will be the sentiment to a much of a gun owning, rather dangerous part of the population, however, I wrote above: Thinking how many blue pilled men already live under the rule (all the way to near total control) of a female or a whole group of …
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:42 PM
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In a full fledged dystopia as described they could, say, if all the above came true and you'd be reduced to a slave under the eyes of the practical law, any whale could stake their claim on you as their slave and only the citizens in this system would be able to contest her right of ownership over you - This is what slavery means in practice if you think about it. A slave has no rights to deny being legal property of someone. That is one of the defining aspects of a slave.
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:37 PM
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In the conversation with that young woman, I stated earlier that I regret having done so in the past when I was in my early 20's. The reason is exactly what you said - It is a very rude and selfish act to do something during a sex act that the other person dislikes without consent. I would never do anymore because I want to do things in bed to please my sexual partner which in turn gives pleasure for me and she would do the same thing back. Anything out of these bounds is indeed pure selfishness…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:34 PM
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Oh yeah, I didn't even remember post-factum which is horrible. In the worst case not only you'd need to record all your sex acts with women, you'd have to store them forever - And when it comes to the current practices of divorce courts, evidence for the man is often completely ignored by the judge - So practically you'd never be safe even with consent. I think you are completely right about ending Due Process, which is currently in the process of being eroded for women just because vagina. And …
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:28 PM
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Traditional masculinity was all about protecting women and providing for them. Stuff about how men had to be strong and stoic were really rooted in the need to protect the women of the tribe from enemies. I understand what you mean, but I think you are only partially correct. Being strong and stoic are often male virtues any man is better off having to protect himself first in order to then protect his access for his reproduction, his offspring and his property - Which are all secondary to his v…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:20 PM
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Thinking how many blue pilled men already live under the rule (all the way to near total control) of a female or a whole group of them - There would be guns pointing against men rising up. If you try to RP a BP you can easily see how much BP protects their own prison system. This reminds me of my most favorite quote of The Matrix: "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will figh…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:06 PM
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On one hand I agree with you and it is not the meaning of the post to imply it is ever going to get there. But on another, when you look at the US laws for instance, all you would need were just a few court rulings in favor of such interpretations, a feminist legislature domination (Democrats increasingly catering towards extreme leftist voters) and their signing on couple hate speech laws that it would be criminal offense to posit claims against women and you'd effectively set up the foundation…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 04:01 PM
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Indeed as almost nobody is able to resist having absolute power over other people on moral basis alone. I just wrote a separate post illustrating the dangers of this inspired by this conversation and another one I had yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/cget6a/the_end_state_of_feminism_a_female_master_class/
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 03:44 PM
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I have come to the exact same end conclusion that feminism, the way it trends, leads to re-introduction of slavery as it ultimately desires to have the power to arbitrarily call any sexual act a criminal offense whenever it wants - Only dictators are in the same position as the power they have is to command the hand of the law according to their will - In its completion this would reduce men to a slave class while women would be elevated to noble citizenry / master class, just like Ancient Greec…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 02:34 PM
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Anybody remotely intelligent and mature understands this. Although you bring up the important point that needs to be brought up every time we talk about ads. The point of sharing this is not about endorsing products, it's about what are the cultural messages that dominate the advertising space - Those messages are in a chicken/egg position when it comes to cultural ambiance over all, meaning that even if smart individuals can resist ad messaging by applying reason (what you said), there are stil…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 11:11 AM
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Ad people is largely why we are in this crisis in the first place.
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 11:03 AM
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Hey, I dropped Gillette almost a decade ago because I thought it was stupid to keep buying expensive new plastic parts to something that wasn't doing that amazing job in the first place. I switched to safety razor and also got cuts in the beginning, it took some time to learn the proper angle for the blade. I remember it was awkward and I got cuts basically every shave. That only took few weeks though and after that I rarely got cuts... I haven't gotten a cut in years. You'd learn to use them if…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 11:02 AM
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From the Government of Scotland data: Serious sexual assault 3% of adults had experienced at least one form of serious sexual assault since the age of 16. This proportion was consistent across the last four sweeps of the SCJS. 1% of adults had experienced more than one form of serious sexual assault since the age of 16. 4% of women had experienced serious sexual assault since the age of 16, compared with 1% of men. Rape falls under serious sexual assault, although I would assume serious sexual a…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 10:47 PM
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Source please.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 10:09 PM
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Good comeback with the lesbian assumption, equally "respectful".
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 10:09 PM
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He was just summing up what MGTOW men all have in common because you were literally asking for it: "I guess to get a better understanding of how you all think" Men Going Their Own Way means that you won't marry, and most likely avoid cohabiting because that gets to be interpreted as a marriage in the eyes of the law after some time depending of the jurisdiction. Marriage is a raw deal for a man. Very little upside to a huge downside in risk. This is why MGTOW exists as a response to extremely sk…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 10:07 PM
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Im sorry I can’t reply to everything, I’m not at a place with easy access to my phone Fair enough. It’s 1/5. You haven’t been respectful when insinuating I am a mindless follower, or that I can’t think for myself. So far most of what you have said is not factual, here you go and move the goalpost towards my direction as I did not agree, but still the claim is an absurd lie. The actual rape victims suffer the most from these lies. Real rapists will be less likely to be caught while innocent men g…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:54 PM
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Because a guy blowing a load on your face is quite degrading It can be interpreted degrading by some. Others really love it. Previously you claimed it's downright illegal. And again, you are making absolute statements for everyone else based on what you think and imposing it as a universal truth. No, but say “can I cum on your face?” So that the girl doesn’t get upset, or feel demeaned? From your other response: You haven’t been respectful when insinuating I am a mindless follower, or that I can…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:50 PM
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And even further, the more stupid claims ignorant and spiteful women make, and the more gynocentric the society and culture becomes, the less expressive sex becomes. I understand that there are legitimate claims, but unfortunately feminists aren't really for the real victims - It is about special rights and privilege. Ironically sexual revolution has resulted into the current trend towards a sort of Neo-Puritanian dystopia, where the right of interpretation and judgement is being stacked to a pr…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:31 PM
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Furthermore, based on the quote, I believe this refers to prohibiting sexual engagement in a non-sexual context (i.e. consent has already been given via agreement to partake in a sexual act). i.e. this is used in a workplace, in a park, in a subway, in public, in a non bedroom situation. Otherwise it can be misinterpreted as I posited above.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:24 PM
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Thank you for being specific. But what you are saying, is that any form of sexual touching, any form of sexual activity, DURING SEX, which I specified earlier, can be interpreted as an offence. Do you see what the problem is here? So what you are technically also saying, by your logic of interpreting this legal quote, is that I need to ask consent for every millimeter of movement during sexual activity - And anything that didn't achieve consent could be considered an assault.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:22 PM
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a somewhat respectful response And by the way, what exactly haven't been respectful in my response? I think it is somewhat disrespectful from you to not answer to virtually anything to what I wrote, basically ignoring everything of substance while just sticking to the 1/4 propaganda guns.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:17 PM
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What law? what country?
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:04 PM
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PS. I suffered my entire childhood because of racism and I'm white, so I am very personally against your grossly ignorant statement. Liberalism (especially the feminist-leftist kind) today offers these obnoxious claims while being usually guilty of what it they accuse others of being. Feminists are often in fact very sexist, very rude, very obnoxious and extremely hypocritical. They ride their moral high horse waving their flag of eternal victimhood with zero responsibility desired to be taken o…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:01 PM
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Racism is racism. Saying that racism against white people isn't racism is racism. You are not correct with the 1/4. I don't want to waste my time to educate you and hope that someone here has the stats at hand. Spraying cum in someone’s face is deemed as sexual assault, beware of that in the future. Maybe in your country according to feminists it is, but last time I read the laws about these topics. Yes, if you are in public and go randomly spray cum on people I agree it is a sexual assault. You…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 08:54 PM
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Now that I made that clear so you don't generalize based on couple responses, I'll bite with my personal ideas and who I am about. I am not speaking for other men in here and can say outright that you won't get some percentage of MGTOW guys here to talk to you at all as they would view it a complete waste of time. I'm approaching my mid 30's. In my early 20's I did quite a lot of pump and dump, just wanted to fuck different women - Those women wanted to fuck different men. Mutual respect of a ki…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 07:58 PM
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Sounds like feminism has been given you a bit too simplistic idea of men. Some men respect their partners, some men don't respect their partners. Some men do anything for a woman, to some other men women are cum dumpsters. Men watch all kinds of porn. Some men don't watch porn at all. Men are simple on individual basis, but there are very different kinds of men. MGTOW men fall into all of the above categories so you won't have a clear cut answer to this. At least you are asking questions instead…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 07:20 PM
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I took it very similarly - Put it to use at a music festival I just came back from and it did make some difference in how much I was able to enjoy being there.
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 07:03 PM
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MGTOW does not exclude being with women, it's about keeping your power and freedom - You have the right to choose how you spend your time and having fun with women is one of them. Some men in the community go completely monk, some don't. Technically I have more more reasons to be here than you, but I do not oppose you being here because excluding women from the community isn't part of the rules. I was mostly curious about your personal reasons to be here rather than on the basis on your gender a…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 07:00 PM
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Even this is basically RP content, I think it has some great points for MGTOW men to think about.
/r/MGTOW219/07/19 05:06 AM
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Whenever I kept a journal what was most interesting to me were to look all the past goals I used to set for me.... Basically each and every one of them completed in the hindsight, without even noticing.
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:28 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/youdontmattergiveup/ I feel like I have found the glasses from They Live movie...
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:25 PM
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lol! https://www.reddit.com/r/dontdeadopeninside/comments/celpwc/inspiring_words/ This one is a winner.
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:20 PM
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All women need to get dick these days is to reach for her phone, thumb the screen a couple times and type "Yes"
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:14 PM
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The number one problem in relationships, is this stupid idea of investing anything at all. You give little segments of time, money, emotional energy, etc. for a return on your investment. You either spread it among multiple people based on their abilities to get something back, or you ignore them all together and deal with your own problems, or you properly put a relationship in it’s role (whatever you define that as) where they receive from you and you get from them. At no point should you be d…
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:08 PM
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That's metal af alright. Very self destructive, but still very metal.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:22 PM
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If you want to vent, r/MGTOW is the place and remember to come back here when you have calmed down and we'll talk with you with whatever you want to do after you realize you are now free to do anything and need some ideas and discussion with like minded men.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:21 PM
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We are not praising women here, but we are MGTOW minding our own business and really don't give a shit what thots do. PS. You can come back here when you are done hating and want to talk about something constructive, i.e. what to do with your life, discuss about actual MGTOW ideas, lifestyle etc. We'll be here.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:15 PM
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I'm not saying female nature is different. Society and culture, however is. The difference for example, with Central / North Europe compared to Spain is remarkable when it comes to how women behave and whether they are generally happy or not. The nature of women is not different as they are women, but virtually anywhere where feminism has killed femininity and other traditional aspects of "womanhood", all you are left with are women who no longer take care of themselves, who don't respect men, w…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 05:56 PM
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Good question - As boys are neglected and left out without father figures... What indeed could be done? Maybe some organisation to provide boys some vetted and monitored (i.e. no pedos) playtime, help with homework and that sort of thing. Religious communities can often offer some boy only groups with male adults supervising and acting as role models. Unfortunately when it comes to secular post-families, it's much harder. Boy scouts comes to mind... Also maybe other things like hunting, fishing,…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 05:34 PM
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Saaame. I live in an EU country and probably first still go to Spain or some Slavic / Balkan Eastern Europe country for a few years and then move to either South America or Asia to enjoy living among real people leading real lives.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 05:13 PM
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Correct. women simply are not sexually attracted to men staying home raising kids while they're out working 80 hours a week This is abundantly obvious to a man who has wide array of sexual encounters with women and thus who has first hand heard women confess to him how women don't like the nice home daddy types sexually. Any one of them will tell you how it's not their fault they keep getting offered money and etc. and it would be foolish for them to refuse. The fact that in the modern world pro…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 05:10 PM
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If you are in the Anglo world, yes, watch out! Condoms without exception everywhere.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:55 PM
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You are welcome brother. Don't take my word of course, make sure you study the validity of any claims I made and work to find counter points before accepting it as true. I too am still just in the process of learning about these issues. I think the only way to not have this pattern bite you is to either: A) Find that incredibly rare unicorn, that you find sexually attractive, that understands these dynamics consciously and appreciates her relationship with you over this biological imperative (i.…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:54 PM
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He refuses to honestly lay his argument out on the table. Or she, as I'm not yet fully convinced. Still, many of the comments have been enlightening. This is why civil discourse over disagreements is so much better than name calling and censorship... Which is also why I've become quite alarmed about the radicalization of the left recently increasingly resorting to these tendencies. I was good intellectual friends with one US based woman who have increasingly grown very intolerant and ideological…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:34 PM
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Yeah, a polygraph lets you know quite reliably if the person believes in their statements or not, but it obviously doesn't prove whether such statements are absolutely true or not. My assertion abstracts sincerity out because I think it is irrelevant on the level of societies.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:28 PM
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In short, as long as leftists have this idea that "fiscal responsibility", global finance, banking, the markets, trade and business overall is a "right wing thing", the left won't come up with anything near intelligible how to responsibly change the status quo systems to their political liking - And ironically keep underestimating the complexity of what it requires to run the world from economic point of view - And conversely all they come up are extremely naive over-simplified caricatures of th…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:25 PM
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The Guardian, of all publications out there, once published a terrific article on how the Left is failing in economics because nobody from the left has conceived any reasonable, well enough put together economic theory in more than half a century about how the current economic systems should alternatively be constructed. This is one of the biggest reasons why I have effectively got away from my left leanings - As I simply do not see any real initiative in generating fully functional alternative …
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:18 PM
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Not only have women repeatedly demonstrated over the past 50 years that they WILL NOT assume the responsibility of doing the shitty, dirty, dangerous (and often well paying) jobs that are the backbone of modern society Exactly. The desire for special privileges and benefits is always going to be endless from someone who acts like a child in a toy store to whom there is no concept of responsibility / working for the benefits, the desire is endless. Today it's "equality" (without equal responsibil…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 04:01 PM
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I disagree. People are largely in denial when it comes to much of the biological facts regarding of humans, not to even mention feminists who as a group directly oppose biological realities and call them lies by patriarchy. I mildly agree with you that as people don't find it convenient, they don't bother to find out about the facts in the first place. This comfort orientation effectively keeps all inconvenient facts, especially when it comes to straight forward biology (i.e. hardware limitation…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 03:45 PM
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lol
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 03:03 PM
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You are welcome. Nobody can teach you self-ownership and financial independence better than those who actually practice it to the extreme :)
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 02:06 PM
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I wish you take proper time in constructing your arguments when you write out your position not to be brushed off taking seemingly huge conclusive jumps etc. I kinda see what you are saying there and what MGTOW is basically already doing is saying "good riddance", so, maybe your arguments do have merit as in, let feminists get what they want so that when they get it, they no longer want it. However, the problem with this is that this process is destroying real lives along the way and has been do…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 02:04 PM
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Having experienced much more than most people, I prefer just the arguments plain open on the table. If you have skills in putting together a valid set of arguments, it will speak for itself. And I appreciate if you do put it all on the open.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:58 PM
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Good post. I highly recommend anyone liking these points of views to take a look and Nietzsche's theory of master morality vs. slave morality.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:54 PM
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Notice also that for example, maximizing societal power to every man is not to strive to become the president. For example, in my case I've maximized my societal power in my own game I play when I am financially independent enough so I don't have to bow to any societal hierarchy master, a boss, politician etc. Sometimes to beat the game means not even playing it.This is how some MGTOW men beat the dating game for instance. I'm saying this because we are all our own men and our ideal maximized se…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:43 PM
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... All you have to do, after this realization is to work to maximize your own physical, mental, material and societal power just as nature simply intended and you'll see you can have your pick of the litter any day you want. And then you'll see "she ain't all that". Simple.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:38 PM
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You still believe to the programming you've received when growing up that women are better than you. All you need to do is to realize that objectively speaking, men are the more capable and valuable sex.If women had no reproductive value, it would be clear that there's almost nothing they'd do better than men. That is a cold hard fact of nature and evolution. In nature, nature grants "specialty" on one sex over the other.The other is there just for DNA variability and to take care of the spawn a…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:33 PM
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She has tied the knot with a male that is really, really high up the social hierarchy. She is very unlikely to get equal or higher status man if she divorced. That by evolutionary biology is success for a woman and I have no reasons to doubt when she says she is happy with him.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:22 PM
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> If you want to keep casually dating consider using Airbnb or hotels so females don't know where you actually live. You risk property damage if a girl gets crazy or any sort of weird laws about cohabitation in the area you live. I've thought about Airbnb often, but casually dating while you eat the cost of it quickly mountains up into a pretty steep bill. Especially for whatever reason you don't get laid - vs. in theory if you'd just go for an escort which would be a sure deal every time. For t…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:15 PM
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on topics such as health care, retirement or finances. Actually I'd go and look at virtually any anarcho-capitalist / Libertarian sources for that information. Most of it is male, individual driven and doesn't talk much about women or families, likely due to high degree of these men being fiscally conservative and thus careful of gold diggers. Some of them are of course family men, but the way they talk about finances is mostly on the individual level, as their target audience is usually younger…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 01:04 PM
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I am very similar to you including the problem of being sort of sad about the fact that I too see myself enjoying being a father. Just like you I really don't have any problems getting women, but on the other hand, I have never really met a woman that I would feel so assured not to turn into a controlling bitch down the road if I were to marry her. I like my freedoms way too much to risk it and basically all relationships I've had I have witnessed this female instinct to eventually turn against …
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 12:59 PM
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I would like to just concur than having a girlfriend isn't really incompatible with MGTOW... I personally draw the line to: No marriage, no kids, no living under the same roof, no drama, no manipulation, no bullshit. If a woman I like can agree and live by to those basic personal premises, she is welcome for as long as we enjoy each others company. I am upfront about all of them so that she can be informed from the very beginning what the conditions are so I'm not stringing along anyone either. …
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 12:19 PM
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They provided him with an internet access... Uh oh.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 12:11 PM
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> The Stoics of ancient Greece called this sympatheia, the feeling that the universe is an indivisible, unified living organism endlessly in flux. Reeee Greek Philosophers were men patriarchy and sexiiiism!
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 12:10 PM
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Maybe because he's not writing up posts in here about it?
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 12:02 PM
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Not to mention not being even able to receive it, haha!
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 12:02 PM
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Imagine that only fragging some fuckers in arma is keeping you away from living the life of your dreams....
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 12:01 PM
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I am taking some kind of secret, superior position and playing with you guys. Well, in practice you currently indeed are. I've played these exact games before that you are, hence my ability to call you out on it and the suggestion that you write it out in the open without this cat and mouse game of hinting at it, which I know, in your perspective is about teaching the plebs on your higher, grander point of view. Oh I know, I know.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:54 AM
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I've met a lot of women who say they want to thrive in the workplace and have more responsibility and power. I am taking that at face value. I have too... This is completely different to what I said though. I was talking about what you originally inferred: A couple where man is stay at home and woman is busting out a 40-80 career. What you said is that you believe women when they say they want to thrive in the workplace and have more responsibility and power. These two have nothing to do in comm…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:51 AM
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How many people leave the education system with a clue how to critically think, what their rights are, or even take care of themselves in the real world (e.g. taxes, bills, etc.)? Isn't it the so-called "higher" education system that's filling people's heads with insane crap? Before looking into JTG.. I agree with the faults of most education systems around the world, but how it would benefit for making only women go through a system that leaves them with no clue how to critically think (ahem, f…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:35 AM
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Again, I take this as you just want to control the flow of discourse by feeding people breadcrumbs to become hooked to uncover this great mystery perspective you have instead of just taking the time (less time) to simply make a cohesive set of arguments along with sources and get it fully presented, get criticized for it and being able to defend it. I certainly understand why one would do it, but when you tell me you know my benefit, you have greatly underestimated me and I think overall you are…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:28 AM
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Anyway, I do see how distorted my views may look from your perspective, it is just that you have not yet seen mine. If need be I'll post a less subtle explanation. What you are doing is unfair, you believe you have a bigger vision of the matters than those who have taken the bait to refute your ideas. You keep withholding the core structure of your vision / belief system and keep it to yourself so you'll have the luxury of it not being brought to the light of scrutiny from others as this is what…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:18 AM
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I have seen plenty of couples with the dynamic of where the woman is the leader of the household, brings the income, where the man is at home. And I have never seen either one person of those couples happy about their relationship. This is simply because reversing gender roles that evolved for million years cannot be reversed over even several generations to the depth that it would take to override all the systems involved to mutate the species to your liking? There are species of arachnids wher…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 11:03 AM
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Not to mention Testosterone vs. Estrogen
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:51 AM
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Well why don't you elaborate on the questions you were just asked instead of claiming you have some more informed, more detached perspective on these questions? I would argue that your 1st point has already been flipped, the second won't happen due to unhappiness via biology and the 3rd is strongly trending towards that direction and when it comes to the North American systems, the balance has already strongly shifted towards women except STEM fields, where the counter point D about IQ spread is…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:48 AM
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Why is it a good idea to exclude men from having a higher education?
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:38 AM
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Have you met a lot of women who enjoy being worked like donkeys and dogs? When will we see feminists who'll heroically grab the shovel and start digging? The problem is what you argue is that women will never agree to what you are suggesting, except for the matriarchy part where they get to rule. What would end up happening is that women would order men do all the low paying, difficult work, give women freedom from all work and turn men into slaves. This is what you are actually suggesting. To y…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:28 AM
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Having read most of your responses, I am not at all sure you have an open mind when it comes to anything that counters feminism with reasonable, fact based objections.
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:16 AM
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Why would anyone trust feminists to do better job when what they've done so far has virtually been only about stacking up benefits towards their end and rigging the game for their own benefit without any notion towards taking on the responsibilities. The claim to be a movement for equality is objectively a lie to mask the supremacist nature of the movement, that you, ironically, claim that will set the record straight and fair in the end. Let's compare this to a politician whose track record is …
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 10:10 AM
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An honest mistake brother! I've never had a Merino piece of clothing mainly due price. Would be great though especially as a travel sports item. In the military we actually used these less dense mixed fabric polo shirts as the bottom layer that did great wicking to a normal cotton t-shirt on top and currently I just use polyester under shirts and cotton on top if I really want to keep me dry. However when I go for my vest walks I just go for cotton tees as I'm not really sweating all that much a…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 09:43 AM
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Well, I actually think you are completely wrong. What needs to happen is completely opposite to what you argue. Instead of flipping it to matriarchy, if anyone would to take feminism seriously, feminists would argue to actual equal legal treatment, i.e. give men the same benefits under the law and make it an even playing field. What you are suggesting is to give women all the candy while men just need to trust women to give them fair treatment out of their good will. This is delusional at best w…
/r/MGTOW217/07/19 09:36 AM
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I applaud you for doing your buddy a solid. Every man deserves to hear the truth about what is going on if they are even remotely curious. Some doom themselves by tuning out and stick to blue pills on everything and then obviously they have chosen their destiny being in the hands of others. I wouldn't be able to do what I'm doing if I was with a woman and that there's no value in them. This is so easy for men to gloss over when you have some steady vagina along with her assuring smile... Every m…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:49 PM
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I was told feminism was about equality by feminists and now here you go saying it is about going from patriarchy to matriarchy? Based on your points you've never looked at feminism from a critical point of view. Namely the statistics involved on what women actually do opposed to what they say when it comes to real equality. Participating in this conversation would be a royal waste of my time as all of these arguments have been already mulled over to death by countless other people. Feminism reac…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:13 PM
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I'm aware of the benefits of Merino, but overall I've heard that for rougher use it will wear out quickly. Based on my current knowledge it's hard for me to imagine a heavier vest made of Merino material, but I just might not be aware of what's available. I've never even seen a vest made of Merino and am wondering what vest do you have? How much weight total?
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 06:57 PM
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I would like to clarify that geopolitically I would like to see a world with less world policing and warfare over non-renewable energy resources which is unconstitutional and sold via cheesy psyops. Hence I would prefer Gabbard over Trump ideally, but so far I haven't been disappointed with Trump in this regard. His effort with North Korea, in a just world would have netted him a Nobel peace price that in this world of crazy went to Obama who went from 2 wars to 7... There are no words for this.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 05:07 PM
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People don't really like violent leftists, as they've gone full religious war over nothing. This. There are also pretty good data available showing that the left, ever since HuffPo and Buzzfeed have been clickbaiting on Facebook, have taken a turn to go left really really hard. When you take into account the Overton Window theory, it explains why even a moderate left-centrist (what I used to be personally, now perhaps leaning bit towards right to counterbalance the crazy) is now called a Nazi as…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 05:02 PM
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I live in an EU country and personally I have become much more conservative seeing how irrational the left has become. Ideally I would love to see Gabbard vs. Trump, but knowing the Dem establishment, that is likely not going to happen. I am continually impressed by Trumps ability to not give a shit about what anyone has to say, more specifically women. The recent "racist tweet" scandal has me rather interested. Trump recently tweeted telling these women to go back to where they came from. ​ I h…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:54 PM
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Do whatever it takes and find the routine you’ll commit to. One of the most important idea to keep in mind about any exercise. Do whatever it takes *to* find the routine you’ll commit to. ​ weighted vests are perfect to add load. Absolutely, when it comes to increasing resistance on bodyweight exercises, there are tons of ways to make the basic exercises more challenging, but there are still those very annoying gaps between easier and harder exercises. Being able to add weight progressively to t…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 12:04 PM
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I agree that what most societal slaves call traveling is just mindless consumerist tourism... However, I have to bring up what it means to me: When I go "traveling", it means that I basically move into that country for 3 months to a year or more, I assimilate myself with the locals as well as engage with the expats or other international freelancers... This gives me both the local way of life, language immersion and "the real deal" as well as I also take a break from locals to hang out with othe…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 11:56 AM
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Sounds actually quite damn blissful. Reminds me of the golden years being 10 years old and giving zero fucks to anything else than your hobbies...
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 11:45 AM
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When I tried some of them a few years ago, the bots seemed to be either for camgirls or other type of e-hookery so you'd pay in the hopes to see some poon or something like that... Some kind of scheme to get blue balled guys open their wallets. I cannot be sure because obviously I wouldn't click on their links etc. and would just blacklist them immediately.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 11:43 AM
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I'm very glad I could help brother! Those questions weren't from me so make sure to pay respects to the author as I think the post needs more attention as men who have trouble with women don't tend to think as straight as they could, reading into the situation instead of taking an objective view on the big picture.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 10:08 AM
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OK, you are trolling, bye!
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 10:05 AM
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No. Sorry this isn't possible. You cannot send information to her without making us of photons hitting her eye or soundwaves hitting her ear etc. Nonsense. Are you serious? Obviously I wasn't talking about extra photons sent your way, wft. It's an expression that means small expression of your eyes created by the musculature around them. If I had know you are this dense I would have never wasted my time writing you what I did above. Then it should be easily quantifiable. In the amount of text yo…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 10:04 AM
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What stops you from taking the weights out and washing the vest? Mine could be easily washed in a washing machine. Merino cotton is good when it comes to smell, but it is much less durable than the robust (nylon?) based fabrics vest are usually made. Just a thought
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:47 AM
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What differences do you see in using one for another for walking? If you mean what is the difference between just a heavy backpack and a weighted vest... The reasoning is pretty much the same with walking as with bodyweight exercises really... More equal weight distribution, less bouncing around and ability to be precise with the weight.
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:44 AM
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I merely dropped seeds on your soil. No one's forcing you to nourish them and help them grow. Like I said before, I am fully familiar with Christianity, you are not telling me anything new. You mentioned before that you may consider only pursuing women who have more conservative and traditional views such as the ones I described. Very conservative Christianity isn't the only "traditional" and "conservative" view out there. You seem to think it is. I'm just letting you know that those types of wo…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 09:38 AM
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Thanks for the information! Not bad brother. The sink washing of clothing would probably get on my nerve on the long run, but at least there are artificial fibers that dry really fast and some laundry services too that are relatively cheap.
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 09:27 PM
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If she thinks premarital sex is ok, her values aren't on point and you'll continue to open yourself up to problems. That is you telling me that my values aren't on point as my values don't have an issue with this. Your values are your values. Anyone who doesn't have a problem with sexual sin is lost and being guided by wickedness and carnality. Now, you can receive that or not. I am not guided by carnality, I accept it as a biological dimension of being a living being. Due to the ability to have…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 09:19 PM
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My advice is to gather some of the resources people post here, choose one which you think is the best introduction for him, take him to a quiet bar, have a few drinks before you bring any of it up and make your peace about the red pill. Make sure to tell him about the benefits, listen deeply to his objections and counter them and try to inspire him to take the plunge. In the end or later you can offer that one resource you've picked for him to continue on his own. Let him also know that you are …
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 08:04 PM
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What a great metaphor! Cheers.
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 07:55 PM
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I am in the same boat except having had couple relationships with women who were too crazy (one was clinical literally) and I was too stupid to let them go that far with me, but nothing permanently bad happened either way. I'm also not fundamentally against marriage, but seeing my father being juiced from his talents and live in practically in a corner of her house and having seen step father take in all the bitching from my mother plus my friends now how are divorcing, the overall climate etc. …
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 07:55 PM
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Damn man, that's one hell of a journey! Do you have an estimation how much money it took in total?
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 07:42 PM
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nofap is actually about healing your porn addiction. Well, honestly the NoFap "movement" is a whole host of things these days, but the real purpose of it is that it is a tool to rewire your brain away from being addicted to porn. I am a recovering porn addict and ejaculating to porn caused me to feel really depressed, weak, unmotivated, lazy, moody etc. which is caused by chronic Dopamine depletion just like a cocaine addict would with his withdrawals. It has been demonstrated that porn is even …
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 07:37 PM
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In my opinion, you shouldn't *confront* her, because there is nothing to confront her with. Exactly! Just pay for your own thing, ask the waiter to split the bill or simply pay for your own thing. The exact same protocol you'd do with a male FRIEND without any thought about it. Why is this an issue to you? Think about it and come out with a post about your real issues and we'll set you straight again. If she has made any different assumptions it is on her to make that confrontation. Amen. Then y…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 07:28 PM
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Ask the following questions : Is this person an overall positive influence on your psyche. Basically, do they make you feel good about yourself or not. Not that simple to answer because maybe they do only sometimes. How often do you actually see them, and how much of that is voluntary? Does having them in your life benefit you in any way, and if yes, exactly what. What are your overall objectives with this "friendship"? Do you want more, is this already a FWB, or is this a friendship with no ben…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 07:22 PM
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You are most welcome brother! If you haven't done so yet, I recommend you check out this post Frelsi_8899 posted yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/ccou22/how_to_untangle_yourself/ His 8 questions to ask yourself whether any female company is worth having in your life. It does not have to be in a sexual content as the same questions can be asked about any relationship in your life. Especially the 8th struck with me and there are more in depth explanation about that in the commen…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 02:29 PM
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You are welcome! Remember to be careful and start it slow to avoid any injuries. I hope you are going to have as much fun as I am.
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 01:50 PM
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Oh, and one more thing I would perhaps do especially if they communicated either verbally or non-verbally that I should take part would be to just excuse myself politely from their company stating that it's really none of your business. I understand what it's like when people ignore your presence and start talking about private shit between them. It's very impolite and imho the best thing is to either completely ignore them back and do whatever you want to do instead, engage someone else or excu…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 01:23 PM
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Far from the truth, I made this decision for self-preservation. Fair enough! I believe I shouldn't hand out free opinions regarding every subject discussed around me. However, as I've explained before, this subject is controversial, and I don't think talking about such a subject especially with my "rebellious view" is smart in a work-environment. That's basically what I was saying... You aren't obligated to take part in such conversation that basically isn't respectful / considerate to your pres…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 01:19 PM
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Feels cheesy to me Your feelings are valid. I thought to my-self: "Rayzond, don't you dare say a word, if they ask you anything, you nod your head with acceptance and say something like 'yeah that's awful!" Raised by a single mom who taught you to be nice to women, right? I often feel that people who share their "sexually abused story" usually exaggerate just so people feel bad for them and support them. In this day and age of victimhood Olympics, this is one of the main sports. Fell bad for me …
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 11:41 AM
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I agree. Herbivore men cannot really be called Men in general. They are more accurately a generation of boys lacking T and captivated by anime fantasies beyond repair.
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 11:25 AM
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2/2 How smart can I be if I am unfulfilled and unhappy and can't get a single date ? Do I even need to date should I become a monk ? Nobody can answer the second question for you and given that you are here, you are at least on the very good stable ground to approach these questions from a safe starting position. You are not alone. Most very smart men suck at relationships for the aforementioned reasons above. They assume that their kind of smart means that they either know how humans operate an…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 11:06 AM
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In the early days, seduction communities had this similar sentiment that is now with MGTOW that it indeed was not about women and it was about our development as men, just like you said. Women were just a catalyst to become a great man for your own good. Then Mystery, especially Tyler and Neil Strauss arrived to the scene and made it all about "technical pickup" which is what I described in the original post - Just tricks to entertain women that you needed to store in your brain and remember and…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 11:06 AM
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What an amazing trip that must have been, wow. Very inspiring! You see people backpacking, but rarely anyone is actually doing that much of the journey by foot. How long were you on your adventure? At 160 lbs, half of that was in my legs haha. Lost everything upper body but my legs and ass were like tree trunks. ;) I had the same in the military at about 195 lbs bodyweight. One of the reasons I'm picking this back up is that I want to have such powerful legs back. It's such a great feeling to ha…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 10:04 AM
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Your advice is sound, although as you don't know much at all about me, that is basically what I have already done for about last 7-8 years. My point really was that if a casual relationship with a woman (based on lust and mutual fun) happens, I'm not inclined to stop it from happening because I consider such encounters natural. I am clear with them from the beginning that I am not interested in a relationships with them and having these flings have never caused me serious troubles hence protecti…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 09:57 AM
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Yes. I have a younger brother, whom I'm closer with than my other two, that would be an excellent male figure in their lives as well as plenty of positive male role models at church. Sounds terrific for an abandoned kid to have! As for my "issues," I have/am seeking help for it. Thus far there's zero improvement. And I'm beginning to believe that, at least right now, God wants me to be alone, because of that. Do I think I'll be like this forever? I don't know. I just know that I'm like this now …
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 09:43 AM
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I just agreed to not running with weights often being risky, NOT WALKING. I'll most certainly leave your combative ass alone. You were the one who kept on fighting from different angles, changing your implications as you went and still have a need to come off as a "winner". No wonder you are a fighter. If you had only expressed your stance clearly, elaborated well on it etc. I would have respected your point of view and considered it a fair warning, modified my post to contain such a warning and…
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 09:32 AM
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ALL I SAID WAS TO NOT RUN WITH WEIGHTS OFTEN. My brother, if you would have said that in the beginning, I would have completely agreed with you from the start as I 100% agree with this.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:52 PM
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Anecdotal again and yes, many people do get injured due to too much physical strain. A sensible man without a government program squeezing out a batch with crazy standards without care to the individual is not what a reasonable man should replicate, obviously. And on the other hand, wouldn't you say a lot of fighters end up quitting because injuries as well? Yet, many fighters don't... You are pressing the issue that it's basically impossible to walk long distances with weight and be healthy and…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:45 PM
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Soldiers do.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:35 PM
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I obviously agree that not all men share the same starting points, I'm not a feminist you know. There is a reason why the vests can be loaded with very small starting weight. Your assertions so far has stated (with one anecdotal evidence) that walking distances with moderate weight is going to damage your back absolutely... Why don't you go back and re-read what you wrote and jump of that high absolute truth horse you just rode in? You can start with by provide me some evidence to your assertion…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:32 PM
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Overdoing it is overdoing it. Strongman athletes often do things specifically to decompress their spines. I know spinal compression is a real thing and again, proper use is proper use, ill use of any exercise equipment can get you injured. Enough said.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:14 PM
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You are welcome brother!
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:11 PM
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I'd mingle (any kind of interaction) with Tulsi any day 100 times over AOC.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:05 PM
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Good post on how to stay on guard and how to ghost bad apples off your stable if you are a MGTOW so inclined. > I would say most people I come across are simply airheads Very true. > You end up with these "mini" friendships or friendship lite edition and for the most part, they aren't worth their weight in toilet paper. Haha, yup. > What I'm convinced of is that a lot of people don't really think about this stuff. Absolutely correct. I've been around the block to say the least and still making g…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:00 PM
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Agreed. My last friends with benefits thing was just this. That big ass dummie actually thought she was more intelligent than I am, which was laughably false. Her idea of superiority ended up doing precisely what you described. I initally fed all her shit back to her and then some and obviously it turned her the fuck on, but it was too much of a hassle as I had already very stressful situation with my business things. Sometimes it's best to just give the boot to these people early on if you don'…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 08:52 PM
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Short answer: by using them and getting used to them gradually over time. I bought mine about a year ago and have used them as my main everyday shoes, have done light jogging with them in the woods and also hard surfaces (which I still to this day definitely do not prefer). They are great on forest trails as it makes running in the woods so much more interesting, tactile and straight up fun as you need to be more careful and focused to the steps themselves... It's actually very addicting. I've o…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 08:17 PM
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There doesn't seem to be specific, well developed brands apart from the one Joe Rogan is using that takes Olympic plate weights (but is one sided)... What I am using is generic (I bet manufactured in China) and white labeled by various fitness brands. Mine is very similar to this one: https://www.traningsmaskiner.com/images/2.172161/titan-life-30-kg-weight-vest.jpeg They are not that easy to find tbh, and you might to do some digging of online fitness / bodybuilding online and offline shops in y…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 08:10 PM
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Yeah, that one became a joke among us as that's what it was called in our program. I'm not so concerned about bones as they are damn hard overall, but ligaments for sure are something you need to be aware of especially as you get older as they are b i t c h to recover from if you injure them.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 08:02 PM
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Thanks for the clarification brother, I've never been overweight so I can only imagine, but it does make sense!
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 07:57 PM
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I just came back home from an awesome training session with 20kg / 44 lbs load while wearing minimalist "barefoot" shoes. Next time I'll take a camera with me so I can show you how awesome trails I have to roam around. Had a day of mostly fasting and ate 400g portion of quality ground beef a prior hitting the trails. Such beast feeling as yesterday I went with 26kg / 57 lbs wearing combat boots feeling slightly low energy. Ended up running some parts of the journey and had an absolute blast. One…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 07:56 PM
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Are you one of those guys who believes deadlifts are dangerous to your back too? /sarcasm I think what you meant to say that they could do damage on your back if used wrong. I give you the benefit of the doubt that what you meant by "regular basis" are people who think they should have one on all the time, go too heavy too soon and get injured for being stupid. You are talking to an ex green beret who carried combat gear (roughly 13-15 kg 25-33 lbs) all day, every day on regular basis and got us…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 07:33 PM
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I keep finding the model I have incl. weights at around 80-100 USD/EUR, it's very sturdy, robust and will basically last a lifetime. There's also a model that Joe Rogan uses which is basically a harness with a metal rod in the middle which accepts Olympic weight plates put on it so you can basically freely customize the load. However I believe that was just one sided. The one I have has equal amount of slots on both sides so it's a bit more comfortable than wearing everything on the back.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 05:29 PM
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Cheers. As a recovering porn addict, especially the ability to be in control is indeed wonderful, it translates everywhere... And when you think about it, ability to control your sexual energy is not an easy feat to anyone who is still young and has high sex drive.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 05:26 PM
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Sweet! I have to start incorporating lunges into the mix, thanks for the reminder. Have you ever considered doing 40+ lbs for 1-3 hour (or more) walks on terrain like I suggested? I find this marching style really good for core like I stated... Also in the military we never really had days of resting or much at all stretching / yoga whatever kind of thing to deal with DOMS etc. We had a concept of "recovering by exercise", meaning that we would either play some light team sports or go walk in th…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 05:24 PM
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I have no experience with .22 My experiences were with 7.62x39mm ... Oooh boy. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 05:16 PM
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Exactly... Besides... Females cannot be unicorns. Unless you want to be pegged.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 05:14 PM
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You can reject NoFap movement, I largely do as well. However, the whole idea where it came from is the reality of a generation of porn addicts performing poorly in other areas of live along with depression, lack of aim, masculinity etc. caused by a state that follows from chronic Dopamine depletion. The argument is very sound and if you forgive the facts that there is a cult movement near it, then you might understand that the claims come from people who have NEVER in their adult life felt norma…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 05:09 PM
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Would you say to an alcoholic "take a frigging break"? I mean yes, you could, but it's not meaningful to an addict. Porn addiction is horrible, I can personally attest to that. The benefit claims, exaggerated as they are, are easy to understand from the stand point of having a man grown up, fapping his energy, enthusiasm, everything away to his adulthood, never having lived with the feeling of any vitality and then finally get where they would have otherwise been, being enthusiastic about life e…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 05:01 PM
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NoFap, to it's opponents is an anti-masturbation movement, while in reality, the movement (apart from SOME of it's uneducated teenager zealots) is about the problems of high speed internet porn where you can go into a spiral of increasingly crazy content or just do it for hours depleting your brain from dopamine, which in turn makes your life outside of porn bleak, grey and shit. When you lead such a life, recovery by quitting porn and letting your brain recover by abstaining resets it back to w…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:58 PM
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People here mostly won't listen in my experience... To many I guess it seems like it's the last bastion of where they can practice their sexuality taken away by whoever they project being the culprit, whereas people who have actually studied the matter (and admit having problems) understand the underlying element is indeed porn and not masturbation itself. The debate against NoFap is never about porn, they rather isolate it being anti-fapping which is not the case.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:53 PM
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People fail to understand that if an porn addict who faps constantly stops watching porn and stops fapping - it DOES feel like superpowers in the contrast of how useless worm you felt like before quitting. People fail to understand that nofap has emerged simply as a tool in order to combat porn addiction.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:50 PM
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Keep on fapping is all I care, I go for nofap because I'm sick of tired of how empty, depressed and just SHIT I feel when I fap. The whole prostate thing has been mostly debunked - Where is the data about monks dying over prostate cancer? The idea that you need to clean your pipes is idiotic as the body self cleans naturally. What is unnatural is to engage with delusions of your own making and zoning out while jerking your meat sausage.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:48 PM
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Are you worried of getting rekt one day?
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:42 PM
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Fishing, Traveling, Surfing, Snowboarding, Race car driving on a race track, Weighted vest walks in nature (my new favorite) Painting & sculpting Mountain biking Orienteering Camping Canoeing White water rafting Scuba Diving Harpoon fishing Flying (become a pilot)
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:41 PM
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I could never imagine shooting anything without ear protection. 2 times accidentally not had any on and damn, it does ring. I've always wondered how they did it in WWII
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:36 PM
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Psychedelics really, stick with the classics Yup, mushrooms are great. At low dose they also act (at least for me) a very decent if not best masculine feeling enhancer. i.e. I feel manly, energetic, alive, ready for anything. Higher doses when you feel ready to explore your subconscious and clear up some shit in the attic as well as feel connected to the world (or much beyond, lol) on a whole different level. Progress with patience, care and respect.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:34 PM
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Yup, mushrooms are great. At low dose they also act (at least for me) a very decent if not best masculine feeling enhancer. i.e. I feel manly, energetic, alive, ready for anything. Higher doses when you feel ready to explore your subconscious and clear up some shit in the attic as well as feel connected to the world (or much beyond, lol) on a whole different level. Progress with patience, care and respect.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:33 PM
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If you do, stop watching porn. There starts to be a lot of data about this. Porn creates a lot of artificial lust as well as it makes your brain wired in a way where you start to look at every girl IRL that way. When you do this, ironically, your patterns of lust are much easier to control. This is not easy but try to learn how to channel your sexual energy elsewhere. You did this naturally as a child, that is, you only had energy, whereas now after that second flush of Testosterone your body is…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 04:30 PM
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The idea here is that you post your successes and progress in how mgtow has helped you on your life. What are you doing with all those resources that now belong to you vs going into a marriage, common law or formal? Go on a hike with the dog your last ex gave you a "me or the dog" ultimatum for. Show a picture. Let's see your trip to wherever you went. Etc etc. What advice could you give to other men who want to adopt a mgtow life? ​ This is good in my opinion - It could be expressed much more c…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 03:07 PM
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As good physically as in high school years, apart from the body overall getting more achy, frail and less easy to recover... Btw. about the same age when the brain really matures is when our bodies fail to repair its cells faster than we take damage from stress. These are the years when we get the feeling of disillusionment of the immortality we still feel in our early 20's and the shock of approaching 30's set in among with concrete feelings of mortality (more pain in the body, worse capacity t…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 02:57 PM
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People need to stop settling and compromising their values for other people. Boundaries. You must have well-established boundaries and be consistent with adhering to them. Very true. I'm just saying, it's rough in these here streets. People can show you who they are better than they can tell you. And if someone is giving off "vibes" of not being right....run. I don't care if someone is going to church every Sunday, reading the Bible front to back and going to prolife Conservative rallies habitua…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 02:44 PM
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I need to be alone because I have a sexual dysfunction in that I can't do it without experiencing extreme physical, mental, and emotional distress. PTSD. Not that you haven't ever thought about it, but sounds like some type of therapy could help with that... Even if you didn't want to have sex. I'm pretty sure there are some Christian approaches as well, just saying. I'm going to receive that as a Word because people who know me personally have said similar things on multiple occasions Well, you…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 02:34 PM
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Actually I managed to integrate both under same rule.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 02:26 PM
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There aren't "clear instructions" on how to get women to bed... Humans overall are pretty damn complex and expecting you could just watch a 2h lecture and figure it all out is pretty much telling why you came out empty handed. Now, as I already said in the post and throughout this thread, I really don't think you can actually learn seduction via a paid lecture + bootcamp type of situation... Those are just meant to get some awkward geeks to get started. The success rates aren't good as even if t…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 02:26 PM
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I've already managed to free myself from having a J.O.B. some years ago and have done what you have suggested for the last 15 years, which is what freed my time to begin with... Now more than ever, I have some extra time on top of all other time, so.. ;)
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 02:13 PM
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Let me add some further thoughts... I think the idea about willpower is way overblown over all. If you have a shit job, it's a shit job. You know you need to quit and find something better. If you have no "willpower" to find a new job, then well, maybe you are just enjoying being lazy, but on the other hand suffering... Neither will tip the scale and such are lives made of quiet desperation. It's more about what you think you deserve, whether this what you think about is actually suitable and a …
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 04:22 PM
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Let's start with the basics... You need: Sufficient good night sleep High quality nutrition Lift weights and exercise If you ejaculate too often, especially to porn, cut that shit out If you have your body basics at tip top level, great majority DO NOT, then you shouldn't have much issues anywhere else. After you fix the fundamentals, then lets see... Limit your attention from needless decision making. Willpower is a limited resource and you only get to do that many decisions in a day before the…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 04:12 PM
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Might as well convert some of it to poon, good call
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 04:00 PM
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Ohhh, pardon me for assuming you were new to the topic as you also said "would love to see if it can work". When I arrived to the scene Speed Seduction (Jeffries) was still floating there in between some things that came just after SS. So you never went and tried it out? I mean, there were forums where all the information was up for grabs for free so there was really no need to ever pay for it (and still isn't).
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 03:18 PM
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Oh and if you stumble upon such a rare woman, take it slow as you don't want to be making rash decisions thinking with your small head... WAIT until the initial horny fever stage settles, at least 6 months to a year, until you start seeing normal everyday reality take hold of the interaction. Only then you'll see what she is really like as a person... And even on that point, as so many men know, she might still keep you to her good side only to dump the baggage and turn you into her slave when y…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 01:11 PM
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Assuming that NAWALT exists: I think your list will just make you end up with a torturous hag who will revenge control you for the lack of control she had in her life... If I was to try it out with a woman, she'd likely have to be: From an intact family, with great father relationship (And a real MAN, not a pussy as her father) Very likely conservative / traditionally minded family, her FULLY AGREEING to this Her parents being model example of a good marriage She having HIGH SELF-ESTEEM (you are…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 01:05 PM
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I just want a connection with a chick and suck on some titties.. I would like to eat some beautiful pussy and fuck it slow and good... ... But it's just too much work that I would need to do before that so meh. I got to admit that I’m a horn dog Approaching mid 30's and still want it way too much. A part of me would love to be able to be asexual monk. Another part of me loves pussy too much. Hey, what can you do!?
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 12:45 PM
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Yeah, it's funny how I do not know a single woman who didn't go and sniff through every possible online avenue about me (when I still had presence), but when a man does it it's called creeping. Stay safe and be careful out there!
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 12:35 PM
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I guess at some point Chinese people will be fighting against muslims, it will be India vs Muslims and China will simply support "whoever may win", the good ole US tactic, support both sides to win, we may think just because we are far away from China those conflicts over there won't affect us, this is wrong, just take a look at ISIS, founded in Iraq, and somehow they got militants in Philippines and Indonesia It is the Saudi's who are funding all of that, and they are backed by the US with the …
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 12:29 PM
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Angry mobs behave like angry mobs... i.e. the more you have people in a group, the more irrational and unconscious it becomes. BTW. Modern advertising was created to control unconscious masses. Check out Century of The Self documentary or just the story of Edward Bernays.
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 10:53 AM
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Great points deserving their own thread as a reminder!
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 10:50 AM
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Their fundamental issue is the concept for man to put himself first. You hit the nail on the head HARD there! I immediately see many "good" women I know hiss in my mind to this idea... It is insulting to a woman that a man would dare think like this. This along with inability to say "NO" is why men are so washed out today. The other part is making peace with society as a whole working that way. Once you face and accept reality, you are filled with peace and serenity. You know what to avoid traps…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 10:47 AM
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This is my line of thoughts as well. I must make abundantly clear that for me appropriate precautions means that there is no sex without a condom. I have to also admit that I've had two girlfriends who were able to coerce me into having sex with them without it and even if nothing (Thankfully!) happened I felt so much regret having done so due to breaking my principles and having taken a HUGE risk. For me it seems that in the US, nobody really even talks about using condoms... Rather what is tal…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 10:35 AM
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When I saw your title, I was basically expecting some group coordinated crazy rampage, but was met with a random coffee shop drama without even an arrest.
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 03:36 AM
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I wouldn't call this behavior "going mad" for a group of people who have spawned a few mass murderers so far... Just saying.
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 03:34 AM
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This is a common thing in every online community... ... The seasoned people around will be always outspoken (in volume) by those who are yet to grasp the whole idea behind it. If the influx of noobs who don't know what the primary reason for the community is about, the community has too much entropy onto it and will get destroyed. Good thing for MGTOW is that as it is not a movement nor any of the communities either, it can always be booted up by people who understand what it actually means and …
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 03:19 AM
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Been here for just two days, have had some of my most refreshing conversations anywhere online since a VERY LONG time. It is so weird that I can write about something and not get something disrespectful, contesting, just nasty or blatant ignoring in return.
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 03:14 AM
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"Feminism and MGTOW. Two sides of the same coin" You know this is absurd as the accurate way to pair them up in any way is dichotomy i.e. so different, that they are pretty much polar opposites that their only coexistence is that they don't exist on the same plane of existence. That is not the same coin if it's not the same universe. "MGTOW are just people who think they are entitled to fuck every woman they like but it just doesn't work for them and instead they talk trash against women." I am …
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 03:09 AM
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You saying nun mode reminded me that ever since I was 16 years old and got introduced to the philosophy of Zen Buddhism, I have ever since been really attracted to the idea of literal monk mode, but my libido is just way too strong to deal with... I even managed to create a sort of split mind (schizophrenia) / bipolar issue over this split between these two competing desires / drives in my mind that took a decade to balance out. I'm still far from ready to live monk mode as I have way too much f…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 02:52 AM
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WFTOW then! I'm wondering if such group exist apart from what the cat lady feminists would brand themselves later in the future while claiming it was what they planned all along. Jokes aside, reading your other, longer response, I was expecting, assumed, you to be interested in marriage. You'd probably do really well with adoption based on what I've read so far. I am curious to what you have thought about when it comes to having at least some kind of a father figure as you've expressed so strong…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 02:47 AM
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Used? What kind of a cheap skank you think I am!?!?!?
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 02:37 AM
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So, yes, I'm a Conservative Christian female I want to play Dave Chapelle "GOTCHA BITCH!" skit here as I actually was going to write that I sniff a female opinion, but changed it to blue pill ally not to potentially mis-sex (fuck off with mis-gendering!) insult a man. I am joking of course and you seem to have a sense of humor anyway, so you'll probably don't need me telling it anyway. The only adequate protection is abstinence. If you 100% don't want kids and don't want to do right by the child…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 02:23 AM
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High five!
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 01:41 AM
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In theory even if you have vasectomy, make sure she's on pill and use a condom, there's still a chance of pregnancy... An astronomically low chance, but it exists. As you pointed out, vasectomy alone is not 100% proof as nothing is. And I am siding heavily with you that when it comes to sex, if it happens, children are the most important thing after that... Anyone who prioritizes themselves over a child is total cunt of a human being.
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 01:41 AM
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You'd be surprised how many psycho women there are out there who would agree and seemingly comply to you on the front end while go completely batshit crazy irrational on the back end. Crazy women do not give a shit about consequences, it's hard to find even relatively normal women who do. There are women who date convicted serial killers who have been sentenced of brutally killing dozens of women. I wouldn't count mention being a misopedist be a well calculated risk when it comes to how insane w…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 01:37 AM
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They no longer have it, all they have now is a Gucci purse and two pairs of shoes she'll only ever wear 3 times.
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 12:25 AM
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The entire mindset of PUA is problematic because it glorifies sex without commitment. You are correct. If you're having sex with a woman, you risk getting her pregnant. Period. Obviously correct again. I never have sex without a condom and have turned down sex due to not having one. I have also made a woman go to pharmacy to get morning after pill after having broken condom. This behavior increases the odds of more babies being born out of wedlock without a father in their lives nor the stabilit…
/r/MGTOW211/07/19 12:19 AM
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I would love to bang a chick or two once in a while. Then say how worthless it was, like rich people saying money doesn't matter ! ​ LMAO - I am definitely on the same boat as you are. When it comes to women, been there, done that, but still want some more just for how fun it can be. And definitely working my way to see the rich thing myself as well, just because I can and ultimately to retire early from the idea of having to think about money. I have no problem with men doing whatever they want…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:59 PM
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Just in case TL;DR: - Use your MGTOW self development to attract her (incl. health & fitness, clothing, social tact and charm) - Only go for higher SMV than you are (This is critical.) - Fuck her really well to keep her wanting more, you need to be in the 5% of her best lays practically speaking. - Her being higher SMV, she is less likely to try to marry you and will eventually go for her level or higher. - She might still keep you as a side option for fun, which as a MGTOW is all you really wan…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:39 PM
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Women will ALWAYS think that... It's their blue pill. And same here, all I care about is some sweet, sweet love... making. My idea of romance are long format sensual encounters that make the time stop and it gives the feeling that all is good in the world. Women are always very happy with that, but their BP, just like men's, want to create an ownership deal out of it. I am there just for the terms of lease and this is fine. Just like you, when it's all up front and congruent all the way, it's no…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:31 PM
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Caught me! LMAO
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:21 PM
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Hahhahaha! They could, but they don't care. You are not oppressed, you are a man. A man is always CEO.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:17 PM
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I consider myself an ex-PUA. PUA was my red pill about 15 years ago when PUA's still had integrity etc. Nowadays it is almost all just shit and I could not be bothered trying to do the dancing monkey what it has turned into. I happened to make a post about what is useful about PUA mentality to MGTOW's that I recommend you to read through: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/cbjrd1/thoughts_for_mgtow_who_are_ok_with_some_pua/ i called it quits when she wanted to move in with me, still she wa…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:15 PM
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She told me i have not change and was more muscular, then after we had sex a few times she said i compliment you, i am attracted to you and you do nothing.... Fishing hard, huh! having someone around all the time no way, my condo is too small and if shit happens with her Smart. I personally agree to the ROE as stated by Terrence Popp: No marriage, no children and no living under same roof. Nowadays I personally add: no drama, no manipulation, no bullshit. ... Which leaves my "engagements" with w…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 10:54 PM
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the first thing she asked me is how i was gonna pay the bills.... this was a big red flag, at that point i got really mad at her that night and told her that if this is the way she saw our relationship i was gonna leave she freak out and said she was sorry. Damn, before you said that she said sorry I thought you dated my mother, but she would have never said sorry as it's not in her vocabulary lmao!Sorry to make a joke out of this as hearing that must have felt like a kick in the nuts. we are an…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 10:36 PM
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Well put. The empathy line in the OP entails of these types of intentions instead of a genuine concern, that would either way be better place in fighting against anti-men draconian legislation and culture at large... And we all know nothing to this degree won't happen until the very earliest time of Y Gen women have all hit the wall and start to wonder what went wrong among their cats and themselves.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 09:37 PM
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In my home country of Canada we have passed two new laws which basically make it so that if a woman claims you raped her, and you have a audio/video, and again I'm assuming, but even a text message it is dismissed. Can't be used in a court of law. Tell me why aren't women asking questions about that? BURRRN! When something as vile as you point out comes as a practice to LAW and nobody bats an eye, genuinely concerned women's attention is (unsurprisingly) in almost alternative dimension away from…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 09:30 PM
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That's what I was thinking, all the information is publicly available, all you need to do is do your homework and crunch some data and you'll have much better data than getting back a survey with a sample size of two, where the other person has intentionally given all the wrong answers... 5k hahaha! That's how it must feel for women apart from them being able to actually sink it in all the way and reel it back with cold hard cash, lmao
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 09:25 PM
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Touché, but anyway, carry on!
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 09:20 PM
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I am going to answer this with respect along with the benefit of the doubt that you are being serious as I have no clear evidence for alternative intentions. in order to understand where you are coming from All the understanding you need where MGTOW men are coming from is in the public space, readable by anyone. If you are smart and capable of conducting a serious study, you are equally capable of formulating a near complete picture or a profile, along with some data sampling you can collect you…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 09:17 PM
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Freedom is infinitely better than slavery, yes!
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 08:35 PM
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She told her friend that she could not manipulate me like she wanted, she told me to do something and he did not do it. This is precisely what I meant with her jumping to a non-alpha, she wanted to puppet someone, was unable to do it with you, whereas any woman couple decades before would have been very happy not being able to manipulate her man. Women today have this ludicrous idea that they must have absolutely everything under one relationship and you just cannot have an alpha male that can b…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 08:34 PM
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my ex was mental i know but even then in the world we live in she might be very normal. We are MGTOW for a reason, I definitely hear you. Basically what you ended up doing was basically disproving the theory of being alpha would be enough, but apparently the lack of goodies given made her jump elsewhere I presume. Nothing works when you deal with schizophrenic, paradox demands that cannot be met in the objective world we live in. You meet demands on one side, that leads you wide open on the othe…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 07:47 PM
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This is how women are, one day they can't get enough of you the other they are all mixed up. This is precisely the mistake men make in thinking they can have just the good side of women without the other. That is the fantasy that trips us as we believe there are women who can be just on that side that we love. In reality we are projecting what it means to be a man onto a woman. A man is stable in his essence, he is either on the good side or the bad side, or whatever polarity you can think of. M…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:38 PM
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I agree. It only works as a theory drawn on a napkin during a drunken bar night. The premise is reasonable, blacks are (or have been) more oppressed than white, sure. Upon any real world analysis though it becomes laughable. The only thing that keeps it up is that it is used to signal victimhood in order to attract political favors (money).
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:18 PM
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I want to thank the guys responding who have expressed their reluctance and rejection to this idea. Their respectful tone and reasonable assessment why they are not into the idea is what makes MGTOW great.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:12 PM
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If you are MGTOW and interested in self development along with getting more fit, having better life overall, this can be practically almost free byproduct of your MGTOW activities. I've saved hundreds of thousands of money compared to if I had dated blue pill way or paid escorts for the amount of good sex I have had. Like I said, this isn't to sell you an idea, it is just something to consider if you are OK with the idea of having women in your life while still being MGTOW, that's all. You not b…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:08 PM
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I agree on everything you said. And I'm not all that convinced you actually read what I wrote as I basically debunked what is considered PUA
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:04 PM
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What I argue for has nothing to do of giving up your freedom to do what you love to do on 4th of July. I am advocating a method by which you can close off your phone for a month and you won't need to deal with someone who is mad for me not being there for her - And if she does, she has gone too far and is a goner, simple as that. I have saved hundreds of thousands by having these kinds of fuck buddies though compared to having used escorts. I've never bought a woman a drink and probably paid her…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:03 PM
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Hot damn that was such a great summary of the toxic feminism that has become so prevalent these days! I just recently watched the two "System Surfers" videos by Terrence Popp and it blew my mind how much money women can claim from the government in the US. I'm from a country which has much more actually equal laws between men and women and feminism here is just naive stack of idealized misunderstandings and/or just the pink soft value advocacy among most of it's proponents. That being said, I ha…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 05:51 PM
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BTW. I once had a Russian male roommate, great guy overall. He went back to Russia in his late 20's, early 30's...I guess he just got tired of Western women mostly and overall thought that people are too detached from living an actual life on this side of the border. Have you ever through about going back just even to check it out?
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 04:20 PM
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That's a great argument a point, thanks for bringing that up! I know well this to be very correct.Russian women L O V E their oligarchs and is one of the reasons why they have been able to retain their culture old fashioned. I'd like to remind us here that hypergamy is one of the key elements which keeps a traditionalist system intact and running. Feminists of course despise this "patriarchy" where sure, highest power and wealth men get to choose whatever they want, while forgetting it is the be…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 04:16 PM
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But again, my views could easly be outdated... So csehszlovakze and 30203forever, if you have some observations or counter arguments with the current situation of this I would love to know about it!
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 04:04 PM
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Additionally, if you are a type of guy who is well off, independent, etc. and you enjoy more traditional, feminine women... Russia or any other Slavic country might not be such a bad idea. This doesn't exclude sexually active MGTOW whatsover. What you have is a population of women who are: A) Interested in Western men B) Adhere to more traditional mating ideas that feminists are against C) Having far fewer fat and ugly women, while average women more feminine overall D) Due to C, more competitio…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 03:59 PM
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Well, Russian men are quite commonly real men and it is true Russia is not as nearly as emasculated as the West. That is all true. I have been into army myself and I have got to say it is more of a privilege than a sentence if you take it the right way. It was one of my best years in my life due to who I became in such rough conditions. That is what builds men up compared to a foam rolled vanilla pampered lifestyles of an average male today. Besides, mandatory army duty usually is pretty low age…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 03:44 PM
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Holy shit I have never even thought about pensions that way. It's very similar in the country I grew up in... The mandatory service in the countries that have it should definitely extend it to females where they would make women work for govt institutions or train civil and emergency skills. Imagine how different women would behave if they were actually taught something valuable in terms of first aid, civil crisis management skills etc. It would communicate to women that their value isn't just t…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 03:15 PM
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Because they listened to their mother too much
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 03:10 PM
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Some men prefer the spartan way of van by the river, though. Those men are actually pretty damn glorious. As someone who still likes to get his dick wet and enjoys women, I have sort of distant envy and admiration for men who are simply by the merit of their character so stoic, that they are satisfied with spartan minimalism, lack of taste for the thrills of women and live a rugged life among themselves in literal touch with nature.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 03:09 PM
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In my opinion incels aren't really red pill / black pill. Their desire and broken fantasies, as you pointed out entails that they are BLUE pill gone black pill. Their black pill masquerades as red pill, but incels fundamentally are just self admittedly failed blue pill.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 03:02 PM
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First of all, by GYOW, you don't need to be celibate. You can totally have sex with women if you want. What you want to avoid is long term commitments that basically take over your life. That is the point we should insist upon. Amen. If you do not understand this, you do not understand MGTOW. If you do not agree and heed to this, you are not MGTOW. Simple.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 02:40 PM
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Would you like to elaborate? I'm not entirely sure what you mean
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 02:36 PM
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Sure, it's interesting to think about such dynamics! If you look into the subtext of it all, you'll see that I am postulating that the man is wealthy, is able to draw strong boundaries and has other masculine assets that women are dying to get into their lives. Furthermore, such a man, according to RP theory would indeed be able to be seen as that Chad that women would be happy to do such a thing with... This happens in real life as not all men are powerless and malleable in front of women where…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 02:34 PM
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I also find it very peculiar how the trend pattern is so closely mirrored between the two.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:48 AM
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I think a big additional factor to this is whether the person in their youth accepted their parents as role models without an issue (blue pill, conformist adulthood by default) OR their parenting weren't ideal for either mother or father and they went ahead to rebel against the parents set model / worldview (more prone to red pill, rebellious attitude by default)
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:45 AM
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Felicidades amigo!
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:40 AM
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Interesting question. I first thought Kenya would be very lightly colored and thus could be easily explained as other African countries not making it into the threshold of having a color (even they did search a bit). Could be some cultural and infrastructure factors behind it, who knows... Isn't Kenya one of the wealthier and more stable countries in the region?
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:37 AM
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I can rationally justify some parts of the idea, that yes, perhaps statistically as a group, indeed some are more favored and privileged in raw numbers, but the problem is that it is never left alone on a group level and it is eagerly drawn to individual level. For example, if you are a white heterosexual male, who is a poor coal miner or truck driver, you are automatically more privileged and less oppressed than a lesbian black woman, who lives off of her wealthy lesbian wife. Marxism used to b…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:34 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality If you understand what that means, you'll also understand how big part that hypothesis makes of modern feminist discourse and arguments. Honestly it was a surprise to me to see MGTOW in parity with Intersectionality as it is such a fundamental part of current feminist ideology...
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 01:06 AM
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Intersectionality in short, as far as I care to find out, is the 3rd wave feminist theory that the degree of oppression can be ascribed to person's group they belong to etc. blah blah blah, which in my opinion is why these days they are straight up bigoted and racist.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 01:02 AM
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Very unsurprising as Western countries are most directly afflicted by the North American culture.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 12:59 AM
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High caliber is more money, no? I don't know as I've never used any services, although one day I might
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:40 PM
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I too am skeptical of her based on at least the Rubin Report interview... She seems too "born yesterday" and too rehearsed as if it was just a trendy thing for her. Also I stopped going further when she had some drama with that someone... ... I don't care, bye :D
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:38 PM
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There are two paragraphs, posted by @RealCandaceO i.e. Candace Owens. In the first paragraphs she is quoting @sarahjeong, as she explains in the second paragraph. She does not use quotation marks in order to provoke a reaction with the first paragraph, sounding at first like she was actually voicing an anti-Semitic statement like that out loud, just to show how shocking it would be. Still confused?
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:36 PM
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More like Candace Owns
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:33 PM
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I had the privilege of admiring the Alps once from an airplane window during sunset They span so much wider area than I had ever imagined and yes, they looked quite like the picture although it is really hard to say obviously
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:29 PM
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As you can see, MGTOW as a search topic is very much in part with Intersectionality as a search topic. You can also see that when compared by region, some countries are strongly more interested in MGTOW and vice versa. Also it is noteworthy how strong Sweden is on the map when it comes to searches for Intersectionality.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 11:22 PM
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There are a big plethora of countries in the world and indeed, in some you'd risk everything you've described, in some women would know other women in exact same situations. Me saying "3rd world country" was just to break the scenario off from people going on assuming a US perspective alone when they looked at it. This could be virtually anywhere, but I just wanted to avoid talking about US social climate as only thing there is as world is bigger than that along with attitudes that go along with…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 11:10 PM
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It's a good question, I've never talked to men who actually do this. Maybe it's just desire to impregnate some women he likes without putting his nuts on the chopping block?
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 11:06 PM
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I'll counter with a possibility of a man of the scenario having a potential to be more present than a simp who works two jobs, is mentally away, being under the foot of the woman in the house... My father was somewhat present in my childhood apart from working a lot - He made the time spent with me count and it was basically when my mother went on to get divorced I started to suffer. I would rather have a great man as a father who was there once in a while and offered quality over quantity of a …
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 11:04 PM
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Oh and here's a great tip to manage any urge: When you notice an urge coming to you, redirect your attention somewhere else intently. Your mind cannot do two things at the same time and if you refocus somewhere with sufficient intensity, any state you had before that must therefore drop out from your attention. You can easily manage any cravings with this very simple method and the more you do it successfully, the easier it becomes. If you are concerned about time lost in your thoughts, you migh…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 10:54 PM
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I think that even if desire to connect isn't necessarily related to sex hormones, the sex hormones most certainly do play a role in how intense your cravings for bonding are. I am approaching my mid 30's and I can say that my cravings to have a girlfriend are completely lower than when I was at highschool/college age. Partly this is because I have so much more experience, insight, perception etc. but I do attribute quite a bit of it to calming down overall when it comes down to sex hormones ragi…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 10:48 PM
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Sex is little bit "better" due to other hormones present especially to masturbation (especially with porn), but these are quite complex sets of variables so a "masturbation bad, sex is OK" idea as a general rule is way too black and white in my opinion. Not too frequent masturbation without porn is not that bad at all. If you think sex has significant risk for you, the difference between healthy masturbation and sex, hormonally speaking is rather negligible. Not good enough reason to take huge r…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 09:55 PM
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I've often contemplated that it would be great to have a longer lifespan, like 500 years or even more... Just thinking about how differently I would approach some things that I currently don't have time to learn as I have to prioritize things. Knowing I had 500 more years I would do many things differently. Getting a chance to come back in some future just to see what happened in between would be great as well. Getting yourself frozen as ultimate MGTOW thing to do... Not really, but for curious …
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 09:14 PM
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I liked your post and thought it is a good reminder to what is important.. The primary concern for any MGTOW is not politics / social dimensions of "the movement", it is the practice of it in their very real lives. Time is short and there is (potentially) a lot of life to live. Your post reminded me about Zen. The definition of Zen is indefinable, it is perhaps more a verb than a cognitive construct. And basically those who define Zen are doing it by rather defining what Zen is not... MGTOW is h…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 09:05 PM
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In all likelihood he probably just meant that you just have to keep on going and face the challenges of life like a man and life a real life in your own terms instead of just talking about it.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 08:47 PM
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Cheers buddy!
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 07:32 PM
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I am not entirely sure what you meant by alpha males getting betasized exactly, but I assume what you mean is that if a male has TONS of sex with women, it practically means that he ejaculates a LOT as well, which indeed can lead them not having the will to resist manipulation etc. and thus end up being controlled in their relationship. This has surely happened to me in the past! Simply ejaculating too much leads into the same place... Feeling drained, depressed, low energy etc. Porn and real se…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 07:29 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to read it! Don't hesitate to message me if you want to discuss about any of the details or if you have any questions etc.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 07:11 PM
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Thanks for your clarification for what you meant. Yes, I think we are pretty much on the same boat about the topic overall. In your post you referred to Veganism and I thought it was a brilliant comparison when it comes to the zealousness of what some guys in NoFap manage to take it as they transform the idea into an ideology for themselves and to preach for others. It becomes a quasi-religion to some people in it and that part indeed deserves a big bucket of cold skepticism thrown on it. As som…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 07:08 PM
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You should never argue with the NPCs Enough and well said!
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 06:05 PM
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People are pathetic indeed. Your Ferrari comparison to having kids is brilliant btw. One extra reason why people cannot understand it is that Ferrari cost is easy to understand lump sum of money whereas "having a child" is a completely abstract down the line thing which costs you "200 Dollars extra a month" in the mind of a BP individual so yeah, can see why they think you are an idiot while we who have contemplated the cost know otherwise. Even apart from RP or MGTOW people are so endlessly pat…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 06:04 PM
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Entrepreneurship Trading (either material or immaterial goods) Creating things such as art, writing etc. ​ There are whole host of things you can do to ditch working in a cubicle. I recommend looking into digital nomad idea / subculture, I've been part of it as a means to socialize abroad and I found there to be freelancing marketers, programmers, entrepreneurs, creative people etc. My original push to leave a steady job was after reading Four Hour Workweek about a 10 year ago... Ever since I sa…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 05:53 PM
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First I have to be honest and say I did not click your link because you highlighted NoFap being a cult and that your link was about "funny reading", which I assumed to be just be a dismissal based on the most extreme claims out there. Now that I've read your actual post about it I have the following things to agree with: - I completely agree that there are plenty of zealots who post wild claims - High dopamine levels has been linked to delusions of grandeur so the above behavior makes sense - I …
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 05:27 PM
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Solution A) - Have multiple women while being honest about it. If you do this, women know they have competition (they actually like it). Consequently this often leads to scenarios where women's emotions towards you are even more amplified, but it gives you a base of integrity to the lines you have drawn as it is their choice and consent to stay in the situation. Obviously many women, assuming you are successful standing by your own rules, will still be disappointed and hurt as some will always h…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 03:36 PM
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Needing to "clean out your body" is a myth. The body cleans itself as unused, old semen, is broken down, it's nutrients are recycled etc. The prostate cancer angle to needing to ejaculate is also a myth that has been largely debunked. There would be otherwise statistical differences with any of the monk populations around the world for example, but there just isn't. This myth is once more one of those things created by journalists who wanted to create headlines misinterpreting some old studies. …
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 02:33 PM
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I was depressed out of my skull, unable to be motivated about working out, felt low energy, weak etc. because of porn addiction. For me nofap and restraining myself from porn has been a great cure. I knew and realized I needed to do this long before NoFap existed as "a thing", however I was powerless to do so and I felt/thought I was the only one who was somehow broken for feeling completely drained after ejaculation, especially self induced ones. NoFap phenomena has helped me to frame and under…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 02:18 PM
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I think OP is partially right when it comes to MGTOW alone for being what causes the superpowers (explanation below), but when it comes to long term sustenance of NoFap, I think OP is spot on - If you do not channel your newly discovered manly energies (Testosterone and Dopamine etc. combined) into a new, interesting and challenging lifestyle, it won't be doing you that many favors as there are so many things that can bring you back to ruin. About NoFap to those who are confused: NoFap is mainly…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 02:05 PM
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