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So is a date on the false pretense of sex theft? I'm going to guess; probably not...
/r/MensRights03/02/24 10:55 PM
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It's possible... Black Pill didn't turn me gay, but it certainly sent my libido into a nose dive... I could see a scenario where a dude might be bisexual or maybe even just slightly bi-leaning but completely rejects women due to increasing hypergamy and absence of accountability. I saw a statistic recently that shocked me, it was something like 30% of gay male couples claiming that they don't have anal sex with their partner... I personally wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't something going o…
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/23 08:00 AM
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It's not that it's not fair, it's that it's using straight up delusion to justify being an inconsiderate, self centered, ass... If you are a sub-3 woman; you better see a 5/10 dude as Chad, or you're going to rightfully die alone, and are just wasting everyone else's time by taking up space in the dating market. It's both foolish and selfish in equal measure. Either date within your league; or just stay tf home and stop wasting everyone else's time, and if you insist on being a time-wasting dick…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:50 PM
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Maybe but her eggs are still fried... I'm also betting that her makeup is probably the only thing holding that house of cards together as well if we are being honest... Which you can kind of see when she bunches up her face...
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 03:55 AM
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women's desires are typically rationalized into something virtuous while men's desires are framed as stemming from a character flaw Yep, the technical term for this is "attribution bias" if you were curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 08:31 PM
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So, if they aren't that expensive; why don't you just buy every incel a prostitute to prove your point? End inceldom, save society, equalize the sexual marketplace, become the hero of the internet... I mean, it's SOOOooo cheap, right?
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 04:29 PM
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Did you even attempt to read my comment? First you sound like a spoiled little rich girl who has never known struggle in her entire life just casually stating that homeless guys should be able to save up $300 and because they might be able to theoretically starve themselves to do it; that means they are in the same boat that you, someone who can get as much sex as she wants for free, and even sell her body for money; is in... No... There is no amount of oppression-based-Munchausen that is going …
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 03:42 PM
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“Hey, I’m more likely to die means your safe!” How does they are more dangerous to one make it SAFE? Ok, so are you saying that we should all live in fear of falling pianos? We should never leave our house because a piano might drop on our heads? It's called paranoid schizophrenia... If I can comfortably leave my house, without fear of being murdered, when I am 3x more likely to be murdered; you'll have to forgive me for viewing anyone who is 3x less likely to be murdered, and who is afraid of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 03:39 PM
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No, we don't agree, most normal people are living paycheck to paycheck, and we are talking about below average dudes, who may or may not be disabled... If you're eating out of garbage cans; you're not going to be able to save up $300, and even if, by some miracle, you did manage to get ahold of $300; you would have to be a moron to spend it on anything other than necessities, such as; food that isn't possibly infected with the death, shelter, or transportation in that situation... Even if we say…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 07:59 AM
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Assuming that the 10% of men only get shitty vapid women, is incredibly naive I get where you are coming from but if they weren't shitty, vapid, women; they wouldn't be Chad or bust... I wouldn't say that you are in a BETTER position than Chad. Chad still gets free pussy, all day, every day. I think the point of the OP was to say that what you are missing out on isn't anything that can't be bought for a few hundred bucks... You don't get to live a blue pilled fantasy just because you are Chad...…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 06:28 AM
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The best part about this is that it's coming from a 4/10.... This woman is in her 40s...
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 06:21 AM
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You can't see how men being 3x more likely to be murdered and not making half the fuss about it that women do is related to your comment about giving women a free pass to do things like censor free speech, and dictate the direction that we point our eyes, because they don't feel safe? No... I think NFthrowaway pretty much nailed it... It has nothing to do with them feeling safe, and everything to do with them not valuing sex or not being attracted to the man. The fact that, in comparison to men;…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:50 AM
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A lack of gym creeps hasn't stopped women... Unless you want to say that Jesus came down and started magically healing the blind guys who have found themselves on the receiving end of the gym creep phenomenon....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:38 AM
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Men are 3x more likely to be victims of homicide than women... You don't see dudes making thirst videos to blast gym creeps on tik tok...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:25 AM
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Very true, of course, I do think that any man with an infinite amount of money can theoretically find some sex worker, somewhere, no matter how ugly they are... ESPECIALLY if you are willing/able to go through a pimp... That being said, the fact that we are even talking about sex work as a gendered issue speaks volumes... How many guys here do you reckon would give up everything, in order to get paid good money, to fuck ugly women?
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 04:05 AM
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well guys can easily buy sex too They can? Let's forget about the legality of sex work for a minute... Guys who can't afford rent and live with their mom can "easily buy sex"? Typically, the only people I hear who talk like that; are people who greatly benefit from class privilege and have no idea how much things actually cost in the real world... You realize that McDonald's only pays $13/h, right? Even if you've put in the work and are working a good trade or factory job, a hurdle that women do…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 03:25 AM
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What you are experiencing right now is grief... You are grieving the loss of a blue pilled reality that never existed... Just like any other form of grief; expect to go through any and all 5 stages, in random orders, you may even repeat stages... Right now it looks like you are looking for an escape into denial and that is ok, it may be exactly what you need right now in order to fully process the new reality in which you find yourself in... We will be here for you when you are ready to enter th…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 02:36 AM
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Women are not better at rationalizing, there are just a lot of them that are allergic to accountability and admitting their own flaws... It's the same reason why you can't debate astrophysics with a flat earther... Most of them aren't even playing the same game... Hence why SOME men in TRP communities will say "You have to treat women like children" meaning that you can't really take most of them too seriously... Here is a thought experiment, try to think of one generally female character flaw t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:18 AM
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No, not really... The few traditional women get scooped up fast... Keep in mind, the American women you know are not in a position to date you, so they will tell you whatever makes them look best, IRL they behave VERY differently. If they are in a position to date you, it means that you are rich, which again; is going to dramatically affect how they talk to you. A woman like the ones we have in America are willing to pretend to be a submissive housewife for a 10/10 man but none of them will give…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:05 AM
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Or women just assuming commitment, without getting clarity, because they really know, deep down, that the guy isn't going to commit, and that pushing for commitment; would probably just run him off... So they pull the whole "You should have known! Do I look like that type of woman?" it's like, yes hun, you do, and you do because you are... I feel like the women who pull this shit understand that these men are out of their league, they are just playing manipulative games and hoping for a miracle.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:47 AM
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Having a relationship has been a bad thing since we lost virgin brides that cook, clean, and take care of children... Your great-grandfathers knew what was up but your fathers and grandfathers were just massive capitulating simps who would sell their souls for whatever crumbs of pussy they could get... Which is why society has been allowed to degenerate to the point that it has... MGTOW are a different breed... Unlike you; we refuse to pay full price for damaged goods as our self respect is valu…
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 08:02 PM
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Well, TRP focuses on men, and making sure that you, as a man, do not get screwed over. It doesn't concern itself too much with how a man should treat a woman because society has already drilled that into our heads since kindergarten and then some... Red Pill is for us, not women. That being said, if you find a wife, who values and respects you as a man, how to treat her right is kind of obvious, and if you are red pill, you can do so without compromising your own boundaries. Some of the ways a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:17 PM
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This comment makes far too much sense... Quick! Everybody either completely ignore it or demonize it as misogynistic hate speech before people catch on! Here is my theory; Black Pillers, specifically MGTOW, are the last REAL men left on the planet... Everyone else has either sold, or is in the process of selling, their self-respect in exchange for pussy...
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 05:06 PM
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The correct interpretation is "You (OP) are being gaslit, by society, in order to accomplish what socially enforced monogamy used to accomplish before the rise of feminism, so that women are free to practice low-key polygamy, without having to deal with another beta uprising, which was the reason for socially enforced monogamy in the first place."
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 04:03 PM
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When did I say it was bad? I said that it is happening... The gaslighting is the part that's bad... I understand why we gaslight, it's to protect women from bitter and angry incels, but I actually don't care about the comfort or safety of a privledged and entitled gender who have forgotten why they need men, so I say; bare all and let the chips fall where they may...
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 03:43 PM
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The tangible goal of TRP is to respect yourself and find a woman who respects and values men... Sure, maybe it can limit your options in one capacity as it makes you less naive and manipulatable, but it only hurts your ability to "attract" women who are looking for beta bux and do not value or respect men, which were never going to put out for less than half of your soul anyway because you are such a lowly creature who has to continually simp for her while she berates you for not simping hard en…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:09 PM
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Shit Blue Pillers say... The fact that men don't believe 18 year old female "virgins" should tell you everything that you need to know... They are fucking somebody, it just isn't you... Unless we want to claim that teenage girls are all fucking 30 and 40 year old men; you got left out...
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 01:10 PM
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Not a "esbian" but probably a hypocrite considering their advice for getting a GF would probably just be something like; "You just need to put yourself out there more. Not to me, but just vaguely somewhere out *there, in the exact opposite direction of me, far far away from me and everyone that I have ever known; put yourself out there."
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 12:57 PM
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You don't have to be traditional to raise healthy and happy children. No, but it's a crap shoot and you are risking your children's wellbeing on it... You're also saying that you know better than hundreds or thousands of years of tradition... Which, you may be right, but if I had to bet; I'm placing my money on just arrogant... Single mothers' kids don't have it much worse when we control for financial situation. 1, I'm going to need a source on that... 2, even if true, you can't just exempt you…
/r/AllPillDebate05/08/23 05:50 AM
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I just saw a post earlier calling for the decriminalization of rape... Celebrities and politicians are fucking children and over half of the population doesn't give a shit... In fact, there is a push for "Minor Attracted Persons" to be accepted in the LGBTQ community... Not too long ago women and girls were considered "spoils of war" and let's be real, it's still low key in practice today... Some anonymous soldier rapes a woman in a village near where he is stationed, who is she going to tell? D…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 07:01 PM
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No, in 2023 I KNOW that she sins and am going to be, rightfully, wondering why she isn't sinning for me specifically by the 3rd date at the latest...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 06:52 PM
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Dating is basically a free trial for marriage... If I am fulfilling my husbandly duties, extenuating circumstances aside; I EXPECT her to fulfill hers... One of those duties is sex... Which a man is obligated to too btw...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 06:38 PM
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Location and the law is probably the only thing on your list that is stopping most men... Maybe some tradcons get hung up on the morality thing, but that's about it... As for women, we can just say that age, marriage status, etc..., etc... are factors of female attraction... The fact that this is bothering you so much when it is so blatantly and obviously true speaks volumes...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 05:03 PM
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Most people are having sex with their long term partner No... MOST people are having sex by the 3rd date, and that is pushing it these days... And the men that women are having sex with are all the same 20% of men... "Are we dating the same guy" Facebook pages couldn't work if this wasn't the case... Personally I've had three. Does that mean I only find three men in the whole world attractive? No... If true; it means you're not anywhere near the average body count and cannot be used as an exampl…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 04:57 PM
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what's stopping nonstop orgies from breaking out everywhere? The fact that women are only sexually attracted to the top 20% of men... Gay bars kinda prove my point on this one... Why are hot celebrities not getting molested by thousands of people a day? The police... and even then... It still happens sometimes... Even while they are on stage...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 04:29 PM
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OP is spot on... And yes, that is EXACTLY how people act... The only thing keeping people from having non-stop orgies 24/7 is because women aren't sexually attracted to most men...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 04:27 PM
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No, you can't they are the same thing.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 04:22 PM
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I think too many people are blaming porn for competing against approaching women, and not enough people are asking why porn is able to compete against approaching women in the first place... People need to sit down, and think, for two seconds "If men are choosing pictures over real women; what does that say about women?" porn has always existed and prostitution was cheap and legal once upon a time... Neither of which has ever done any significant damage to the institution of marriage... Feminism…
/r/MensRights04/08/23 01:21 PM
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Actually, from what I understand, scientists have been able to make eggs from skin cells. Technologically; we are actually closer to having an all male planet than an all female one. Technically; the technology already exists to have an all male planet. He also says that women are less prone to aggression... No... Women are smaller and benefit from benevolent sexism that downplays their aggressive tendencies... Give them power and they become more bloodthirsty than men...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 01:09 PM
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Yeah, if you are JUST thinking about yourself, sure. It's when they go trying to bring children into the world in non-traditional environments and fuck those children up because they want to be lazy and do not want to put in the work required to raise happy, healthy, children. The problem is that by the time a woman reaches her epiphany phase; it's going to be difficult for her to find a traditional man, especially if she isn't a traditional woman. That's why you have so much crime... Statistica…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 12:44 PM
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I don't know where you get this from... Most men are not interested in a woman paying the bills... Men just don't want a woman who is going to view them as a wallet on legs... If we are paying; we EXPECT something in return... If women cannot handle that reality; then they need to go dutch... The fact that so many women are offended by the idea of a man expecting sex is why men are insisting on going dutch in the early stages... The rule is that I do not give her a penny or pay for anything of h…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 12:03 PM
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Yes... Most guys, with normal functioning libidos; will fuck women that they do NOT think are attractive... I don't understand why this is even a question to be honest... Like, everyone should already know the answer to this...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 11:51 AM
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Errr... No... If you do not want to have sex with them; you literally do not find them sexually attractive, by definition... If you tell someone that you don't want to bone that they are "attractive" you are either being intentionally obtuse or you are lying. Which is OP's point...
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 11:47 AM
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All courtship and dating dynamics will be completely reversed for the next 80 years. Women will approach men, men will only date the top 20% of women, women will be the primary bread winners, men will stay home with the kids and get primary custody in the event of a divorce, etc..., etc... Only the most hardcore 30% of feminists will care about the new changes and everyone else will just gaslight them and call them incels. After 80 years have passed there will be complete equality in dating dyna…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:28 AM
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No, there probably isn't much more that you can do. I can't speak for everyone in the Men's Rights Movement but Fathers and Incels seem to be the groups that are suffering the most if you go by the suicide statistics. Do with that what you will.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 12:27 AM
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Spitting facts... A $20 bottle of whiskey can provide me with more joy, happiness, and fulfillment than a woman ever could.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 01:17 PM
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Yeah, I've always found this statement pretty fucked up... Technically, it's correct, that being said, there are 3 pillars of mental health which are; physical health, finances, and relationships. So while technically correct, we are still talking about a 3rd of your mental health and before someone chimes in with "relationships are more than just romantic relationships", yes, you're right, but what are the chances that someone who can't find a romantic relationship is going to have fulfilling f…
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 12:17 PM
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Not if you count the fuck bois showing up with shit like goofy fake teeth and fake chains... Then they are abundantly available...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:33 AM
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this experiment found dark triad men are attractive in the short term because qualities of genuine, uncomplicated attractiveness overlap There is a difference between what the experiment actually found and a POSSIBLE explanation for said findings given by the researchers... What they didn't and COULDN'T take into account without getting canceled are phenomenon like Hybristophilia, Stockholm Syndrome, and whatever this shit is...
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 02:04 AM
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Men want both love and respect, but, yes, respect is more important. Things like honor and duty are masculine concepts. If a woman has lost her ability to pair bond she is just ruined... A man's honor and duty to his family will keep his relationship together even if he cannot pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:43 AM
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Ok, that's fine... You asked why men wanted someone who was "downright terrible"... I pointed out that not all guys are necessarily throwing our hats in the ring and that the number of guys going their own way since the mainstreamification of TRP/Black Pill has significantly increased...
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 12:58 AM
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Men Going Their Own Way... At it's core, it is a group of men who have sworn off marriage/cohabitation, but there are various levels as well, some will not date, some will not have sex, some even choose to remove themselves from society entirely and live off grid, but the common thread is "no marriage, no cohabitation".
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 12:53 AM
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I hope everyone here understands that this is ultimately going to come down to a civil war... They have already usurped our voting power by creating a system where men make up 93% of the prison population due to benevolent sexism in a country where prisoners and ex-cons are not allowed to vote and that is on TOP of being a larger percentage of the population to begin with... Can you imagine if we opened up voting to even just the non-violent offenders? We would never see a wokie feminist hold pu…
/r/MensRights10/07/23 12:45 AM
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They have cracked the code... Knowing what to do and actually doing it are two different things... Not everyone is willing to go risk jail for a shot at pussy... That is something that perplexes me actually... I think guys are starting to get the memo though which is why you are seeing a rise in MGTOW...
/r/AllPillDebate10/07/23 12:09 AM
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I'm not worried, they gotta feed those cats somehow.... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 11:25 PM
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No... I personally don't think that ANYONE is being exploited... Assuming it is two consenting adults who are agreeing to an honest exchange of goods and services... But IF we can say that someone is being exploited; it would be the drug USER and the JOHN. Not the dealer or prostitute. Now I will say that a drug dealer and prostitute's work is made more dangerous by governments, but that still does not entitle them to more than people are willing to pay. If a dude says "I'm only willing to pay $…
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 11:09 PM
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How many men actually USE fleshlights? There is a dildo in every woman's drawer... Also, again, it's not about the usage of the object so much it is about how women claim to view the object. It is literal objectification... The very thing that they claim we do to them... Except men are more likely to go out and hire a prostitute because a fleshlight isn't enough, so "Who is REALLY being objectified here when men can supposedly be replaced with a literal object?" is my point...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 10:19 PM
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No, criticism is constructive... What you were doing was seething... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 10:15 PM
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It only takes one to cut your penis off... Lol No, but in all seriousness; the fact that they are masterbating with plastic objects shaped like male members and at least claim to see that as an adequate replacement for a man; should tell you something... And before you say that it can tell you anything about men; first consider that there are roughly 3.5 billion men on the planet and they have STILL been screeching "I don't need no man!" since the 70s...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 10:11 PM
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Whining? I'm not the one over here seething about some dude making a post about Passport Bros on reddit... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 10:01 PM
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Err... Drug dealing... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_drug_war When has selling anything, but especially; drugs, on the black market, ever been safe? Also, that website that you linked; their front page is talking about "social justice leaders"... They are LITERALLY SJWs... I'm sure they are completely unbiased on this subject...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:45 PM
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It's actually exploitation of the one who is paying for the rush of chemicals... Nobody says that an alcoholic is exploiting his local liqueur store... When you are selling drugs; the buyer is the victim, and pussy is a drug.
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:34 PM
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How am I the victim here? It's western women, especially the "30 is the new 20!" types who are fucked... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:32 PM
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No ma'am, your pussy is worth exactly as much as my dick is worth... No less, no more... Prostitution is exploitation, but not of women...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:14 PM
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I haven't looked too deep into it but I would imagine that, in that case, you just kill the husband and claim self-defense...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 09:13 PM
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Except, most women are smart enough to realize that there isn't any ACTUAL exploitation going on here... If anything; he is being exploited for his money and resources... Which is ultimately what the western women want too... The thing is that foreign women are now picking western women's fruit before it's fully ripe and that is pissing western women off... My rebuttal is that maybe they should stop viewing men as fruit that needs to ripen before they have value...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 08:42 PM
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Sounds like you are just afraid of this trend gaining more popularity...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 08:31 PM
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Yep... Basically this... That's what they get for trying to fuck over men... Sorry not sorry... Enjoy your cats ladies...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 08:27 PM
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You're not "exploiting" anyone... The idea that you are exploiting someone comes from the idea that money is coercive and exploitative... Unless you think that your boss/customers/shareholders who gave you your money are exploiting you; you are not being exploited... and if you DO hold these opinions of your boss/customers/shareholders; then you should voice your concerns because you do not deserve the relationship that you have with them or the money that they "exploit" you with...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 08:21 PM
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Oh, so the woman pits the dudes against each other... Err... Yeah... No... Lol Not worth... I prefer the setup they have in the Philippines... Somebody fucks your wife; you are legally allowed to shoot them... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 07:44 PM
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We kinda do that here in America too... There is no "secret code of omerta" we just know that snitches get stitches... You rat on the wrong guy and his homies will find you... Mostly just happens in the poor areas where there is a lot of crime anyway... Like, how common is this practice in Azerbaijan? Do you have to take the woman permanently or have you just earned the right for one night or something?
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 07:41 PM
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Yeah, what I find fucked up is the hypocrisy... Women will have two men, fight to the death over her pussy, then the government will cage the winner, and let the woman go free to do the same thing all over again... Meanwhile, the entire world will just look away and pretend it's not happening, or if they do admit it to some degree; they lay the blame solely at the feet of men, as if the women are dumb or just cannot control themselves... I can understand the argument that says that they are basi…
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 07:29 PM
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There have been a few examples of female leaders throughout history... They have, on average, been way more bloodthirsty than the men... Which is why I find it so hilarious when people talk about how peaceful everything would be if women ruled the world... It's like... Yeah... It would be peaceful because they would murder everyone who didn't agree with them... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 07:17 PM
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It wont, their lives will still be miserable, and when they find out sex wont fulfill the emptiness they feel inside Yes, but sometimes people have to learn the hard way... Incels are those people... then they will turn to deranged porn, or hardcore drugs, or whatever gives them the high chasing the dragon gives. What makes you think they aren't already doing that? Dropping this insane mentality and taking responsibility for your own life is the first step to get laid. Bullshit... Personality do…
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 06:41 PM
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Nah, I think that they are happy to take a beta's money... They just don't want to give him anything in return... They feel like men should just value having them in our presence...
/r/AllPillDebate09/07/23 06:35 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 07:05 AM
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Well, on THIS issue, the best thing to do is to let researchers gather it for me... I could go out and collect my own data, but everyone is going to have something to say about it unless I can show off a fancy piece of paper to back it up...
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 07:00 AM
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Both of dude's points were 100% valid. Women say they are objectified by men because men have pictures of naked women, yet they have severed phalluses just to get physical pleasure. Men are savage or uncontrolled for saying what they think and feel, but women are REAL when they have emotions. I've always sort of suspected that most women were inherently dark-triad themselves which is part of why they are attracted to dark-triad men. Need more data on that one though.
/r/AllPillDebate08/07/23 06:51 AM
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Wow.. DeSantis just won a few points in my book!
/r/MensRights07/07/23 11:25 PM
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No... It's not obvious to me or to anyone else who sees what feminism is doing... This isn't a troll it's just solid advice from one sociopath to another...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:34 PM
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The caveat being that the incels in question are somewhat cute/attractive, of course. Of course... Why wouldn't they want to be held down and fucked by Chadcel? Lol
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:32 PM
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Hey, guys, did you know that fucking incels won't help them? It must be true because Captain TradSimp says it's true! Real Talk; having sex, with multiple women, and personally experiencing that it's not actually all it's cracked up to be; is the ONLY thing that is going to TRUELY help an incel... "Fucking incels won't help them." is a line that simps buy and women give when they want to seem sympathetic but do not actually want to fuck an incel and again; nobody wants to hear their bullshit vir…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:16 PM
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Whenever a man is hateful and obviously misogynistic he's just an awful human being, but when a woman is hateful and obviously misogynistic; it's a "troll"... Why? Do you ACTUALLY believe that women are incapable of hate?
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:05 PM
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Sleeping with incel = self-harm? Wtf? Lol
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:57 AM
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That's kind of my point to be honest, and why I said; "My hunch is no..." in the OP.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:51 AM
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I am not saying it's a GREAT idea or without it's flaws, especially if you're just going around fucking dudes indiscriminately. I'm just curious if anyone has ever tried it.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:51 AM
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Yeah, but they are ascension for a price... What I am curious about is more akin to philanthropy.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:40 AM
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Idk man, I think that would technically make me an incel by that definition as I have never actually been married... Engauged, but not married...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:38 AM
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While I agree; I'm sure a lot of incels would still probably take it. Lol I'm honestly just more curious if it's ever happened than anything else...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:33 AM
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To be fair though; it probably still wouldn't be true ascension in the scenario that I am talking about either. From what I understand TRUE ascension is when you get a woman because she wants you not out of pity or because you paid for it and what I am talking about would almost 100% have to be fueled by pity.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:30 AM
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Sort of, but I'm talking about something more like straight up philanthropy... Not a business model...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:20 AM
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If it wasn't for double standards; some people would have none at all...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 07:18 AM
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She hugged a young boy and that is supposed to make everything ok and fix all incels? This is literally the physical equivalent of a platitude... Show me the woman going around personally trying to ascend incels and maybe I'll be impressed... Meanwhile; women are getting pregnant by actual prisoners through the mail... Maybe even the same women who go around hugging people and apologizing for all women... That's your reward for staying out of jail gentlemen... A hug given to a young boy somewher…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:51 AM
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No man... Just no... Women in the 40s and 50s were not all a bunch of whores who were just really good at hiding it... Whoring has just been normalized and glorified in pop culture creating more whores... I don't know where you are getting your info from; but it's just plain wrong... The "sexual revolution" and 3rd wave feminism was the death of the virgin bride. The fact is that the quality of women has taken a nose dive while people are still expecting the quality of men to stay consistent... …
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 06:18 AM
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Men want a virgin, but at the same time, we are also realistic and not willing to invest significant time or effort in a woman who is probably just a pipe dream. Personally; I think that an n-count of about 3-5 is good for an LTR. Realistic chance of a payout so you aren't wasting your time, but still low enough to pair bond. I imagine that this number will become higher as women adjust to the new meta and start lying to extract more resources from men and then men will eventually have to start …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:09 AM
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Good... Let them watch helplessly as their ideology gets shattered to pieces in a million different ways... I hope we get more of them...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 04:51 AM
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No... Not really... Not beyond just their physical bodies... Once upon a time I did, but then I found Red Pill, realized that it was obviously, and self-evidently, true, threw up in disgust, and from there figured out that I really had no interest in interacting with women outside of the domain of sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:24 AM
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trust me Why? You're some dude on the internet... there are plenty No, there are 0... At least in the west... Men have just lowered their standards enough to call women who would have been considered whores and spinsters 60-70 years ago; "quality"... Like it or not; there are no more virgin brides... Modern women do not deserve a man who takes responsibility for his life and puts in hardwork... Pretending that these women are worth picking up in the street compared to the women of the 40s and 50…
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 04:06 AM
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Idk you would have to ask the women folk that question... I would imagine that it would be a very degrading existence, but they seem to enjoy it somehow...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:44 AM
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Does it matter? Everybody knows broski isn't getting his value in today's dating market... Dude could be a 10/10 talking about a human suck fish and people would STILL be asking him "What kind of guy are you?"... What kind of guy is he? He is the kind that breathes... If breathing is good enough for feminists it's good enough for men...
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 03:26 AM
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veganism is 100% about animal products! Avoiding them is the whole point of the lifestyle. You will never be free as long as these things are enslaving your mind. Am I not making a free choice when I am choosing to avoid women? What you are essentially saying, is that the only way that I can be free is NOT to do what I want to do, or what I feel is right, but rather to sell my self respect and do whatever a woman tells me to do in exchange for whatever she decides that my efforts are worth... TH…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:00 PM
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Nobody is giving me permission to be MGTOW. The feminists would absolutely have us working in the mines for them if they could. MGTOW is 100% about ABANDONING women... Saying that MGTOW is about women is like saying that veganism is about meat, or that alcoholics anonymous is about drinking. If anything; Red/Blue Pill is slavery and MGTOW is freedom. It sounds like you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole here...
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 03:49 PM
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Well, yeah, that's again; why I recommend not giving a fuck and just going MGTOW. Who wants to be a slave to some woman's desires? You spend all of your time exercising for looks, hustling for money, or schmoozing with people for status, while she assumes that putting a pound of cakemix on her face, which you would rather her not do anyway, is equivalent effort and value to what you are doing. If you HAVE to get laid, you're much better off just hiring a hooker and leaving the modern women alone…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm not going to say that frustration, especially sexual frustration, isn't a part of it but I definitely think there is an element of "if you treat people like animals, they will behave like animals" to it also. Well, I personally think that any insurance that covers mental health should cover prostitution, but just legalizing it would be a great start. Yeah, I think if an incel is looking for a way out; he will probably search outside of those spaces for one. I think that, at this point,…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 06:33 AM
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so my question is, what is the solution to helping incels? Not an incel but I have spent a lot of time in incel and incel adjacent communities and from what I can see It's not really a problem with a single solution. I think that the biggest thing is to stop demonizing people who don't have/cannot get relationships as lonely, creepy, hateful, etc..., etc... and part of why I tell incels to go MGTOW. It's easier when you take control of your own situation. Who cares if you can attract women or no…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 05:54 AM
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More "friends", maybe, but as for options, well, that depends on the dude... Sure, technically, some woman, somewhere in the world, might be more interested in a 5'2" dude with a lazy eye who has enough self-respect to stop pedestalizing women and go their own way, but practically speaking; no... Don't get me wrong, going MGTOW can get you slightly more success because you just don't give a fuck about the outcome anymore, but looks, money, and status still determine your baseline.
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:59 AM
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Dude almost everyone wants someone dark triad traits. Being charming, taking pride in your appearance, using flattery, being good at diplomacy, knowing how to act appropriately in social situations, are all dark triad traits. With a few exceptions; I wouldn't say that those are dark-triad traits, those are mostly traits in others that dark-triad types try to emulate in order to achieve their goals. Traits that uniquely identify dark-triads are things like manipulation and intimidation. The diffe…
/r/AllPillDebate06/07/23 02:47 AM

So meth whores just have a victim mentality and drug pimps are doing nothing wrong? Is that your official stance on the issue? If not; why is it only men that should be subjected to manipulation by chemical addiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:32 AM
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So, schrodinger's incel...
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:57 PM
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People in the dark triad don’t care about being nice to children No, but a woman doesn't want a complete psychopath. They don't want a man who is FULL dark-triad. They want a man with dark-triad traits. A man who looks after children but is also capable of stabbing someone in the neck for their bread. It does make biological sense... She wants a man who is willing to do whatever it takes to keep her and her children alive, even if that means murdering other men. Still, guys like that are selfish…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:55 PM
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Only if they have status. I've known guys who looked like K-Pop stars IRL but weren't famous... Most women won't give them the time of day... I don't believe women are lying, I think they really do BELIEVE that they like the K-Pop star just because he is "cute", subconsciously however...
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:28 PM
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Sure, I'll agree with you there... I think that if they didn't hate themselves; they wouldn't put up with the disgust and disrespect from women and would just go hire a hooker, if necessary, and go MGTOW.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:19 PM
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So you admit that the reason that they can't attract a partner is because they are timid recluses NOT because they are bitter and angry and that feminists telling incels that they can't get a woman because they aren't nice enough are just lies?
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:17 PM
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Because I'm pretty sure that is just fan service... If it is a factor it's related to his story telling ability and his ability to be nice to children. Since it's mostly just nerdy kids and 40 year old dudes who play D&D and I say this as a DM, so I do have some experience in those circles... She wasn't lying when she said she liked that The Witcher was nice to kids and animals. If it plays any factor at all it is because it gives the appearance that "the beast is somewhat tameable". Not because…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:08 PM
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It's not so much that they want to have sex with Superman that is the problem... It's the fact that when you compare Superman to The Witcher; most women are going to find The Witcher anti-hero who is a massive, emotionally unstable, dick, and IRL would be a time bomb just waiting to explode; "hot" while Superman, a much more popular franchise and the strongest man in fiction, who has an honest and stable job, who refuses to even kill bad guys as part of his moral code; is "boring". What about fe…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 05:03 PM
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If a woman desired them they wouldn’t hate female sexuality. Well, no, they wouldn't, but that would also mean that either 1). Female sexuality would be different than it currently is and therefore not a problem or 2). They wouldn't have a problem doing whatever it took to sexually attract females... In other words; either female sexuality would be different than it currently is and/or they wouldn't be the same person with the same character in that scenario. Any relationship is on the terms of …
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:55 PM
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Again, Superman is STILL a more popular franchise than The Witcher... Your opinion that Superman is boring is your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but it doesn't reflect most people's opinions. I would also like to point out that the dark Superman killed Shazam... That is going to turn a lot of women off... Women don't necessarily want a complete psychopathic monster, but they do want someone who breaks the rules and pushes people around. The mix of dark-triad and honorable traits are "intr…
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:49 PM
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including myself Yeah, I DEFINITELY think there might be some self-hatred going on in the case of incels... I think an incel that DOESN'T hate himself will just hire a hooker if necessary and go MGTOW. I think it definitely requires a certain level of self-respect to just say "Fuck this... Not worth... " and go MGTOW.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 04:39 PM
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I think that looks definitely matter more but there is also a point where that is not true. I don't think Henry Cavill would be nearly as popular if he spoke and acted like Forest Gump.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 12:23 AM
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Pays to be intriguing. Being an attractive dude with the personality of a piece of cardboard is... well... boring. Superman is very intriguing. Superman is a way more popular franchise than The Witcher. The problem is that dark-triad traits turn women on...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:49 PM
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Well, yeah, I myself do not hold a very rosey picture of humanity either but I also wouldn't consider myself an incel.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:43 PM
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Who cares about attracting sane women? We are talking about incels who theoretically hate women. If you hate women why would you give a fuck about her personality as long as she puts out, takes her drugs, and fucks off? If she causes too much of an issue, well; that's part of why you hit the gym...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:02 PM
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I mean, I'm not saying that becoming a jacked meth dealer is the ONLY way to get laid. What I am saying is that it's effective and relatively easy to do. If you think that meth can't get you laid; then you've never been around meth addicts... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:54 PM
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on the contrary, they wish they could be a part of it. Sure, but they do not want to be a part of female sexuality on female sexuality's terms. If they did they would just go the bad boy route, hit the gym, sling some meth, and call it a day. They want female sexuality to accept them as they are. Ergo; they have a problem with female sexuality as female sexuality currently exists. They hate the fact that they aren’t chosen. They hate the fact that they aren't desired, hence the aversion to escor…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:16 PM
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See this post.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 10:10 PM
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You don't necessarily have to leave the country. There are states in America where prostitution is legal. I think that if it all boils down to being high inhib; alcohol could also be a treatment for inceldom.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 09:40 PM
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Even if they are high-inhib, there is nothing stopping them from traveling to a place where escortmaxxing is legal. I think incels don't want to escortmaxx because they want to be desired and you can't really pay a prostitute to want you. Not necessarily because they are high-inhib.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 09:35 PM
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u/RatDontPanic yeah, I can't see your comment for some reason, but I agree. Incel has become a catch all for any man that feminists don't like.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 08:39 PM
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Yeah, you basically just described the world pre-feminism. Lol But nah, I agree, that would fix the issue, but that isn't going to happen...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 07:33 PM
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Yeah... It's a lot easier to stop drinking when half of world's population aren't bartenders going around insulting, manipulating, and abusing recovering alcoholics for not drinking... And yet we STILL see reluctance to give up the bottle... With that knowledge in mind; extrapolate that idea to the world of the simp. Keeping beta orbiters is predatory and exploitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:17 PM
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Most men are addicted to simping for crumbs of pussy...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:14 PM
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I mean, I feel like there are a few problems with that... The first problem being that people have to eat to survive... VERY few people actually get the privilege of being able to live a hikikomori lifestyle. With remote work taking off, maybe it's more possible than it was, but even then; why don't they just escortmaxx? Make a little money doing the digital nomad/remote work thing and then pay someone else who IS willing to go out in public to round up the drugs and girls for you? Hell, we rece…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 07:08 PM
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AA doesn't have to deal with over half of the population trying to manipulate recovering alcoholics into going back to drinking...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah, because a simp can just walk into a clinic, actually get REAL help, and not be called "gay" or an "incel" when he gets out by manipulative women and simps trying to control his sexuality and suck him back in via the shame game... Because that is totally how real life works... We all know that people, and especially mental health professionals; are SOoo supportive of men walking away from relationships with women... Imagine if half of the population were just bartenders, out walking the str…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:41 PM
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Err... It is a well documented phenomenon that many street pimps hate their mothers and were often sexually abused by women as children... It's kind of the psychiatric model for that archetype... Street Pimps definitely HATE women... Unfortunately, I think most men (including incels) could probably get some action if they kept drug addicted women full of drugs all the time, like pimps do. I agree, so, why don't they? If incels hate women so much, why don't they just go out, buy a bunch of meth, …
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:25 PM
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Tell an alcoholic to stop drinking. Tell a drug addict to stop using. The difference is that drug addicts and alcoholics aren't insulted, abused, and talked down to for beating their addiction by exploitative and manipulative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:10 PM
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I get what you are saying but I think that the biggest takeaway here isn't that HC is physically attractive, but the fact that even HC is "boring" when playing a white knight archetype. What I am suggesting is that the state of the dating market is even worse than most black pillers think. No, you cannot get a date without being physically attractive, but I am also saying that even if you are physically attractive; it STILL doesn't matter if you can not/do not exhibit dark-triad traits.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 06:07 PM
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I had a buddy who used to say "A prostitute is the most honest relationship a woman can have with a man." He recently passed away. Definitely miss him and his insights. One of the only men I've ever met who was capable of being unashamedly real with people.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:46 PM
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Oh, for sure, nobody is beating down Pharma Bro's door to get in his pants... But looks don't really matter all that much without the other traits too... Basically, what I am saying is that the state of the dating market is WORSE than most Black Pillers think it is... Yes, looks are important, but without the ability to act like a dick and the money to get you out of trouble when that behavior backfires on you; you might as well be a fat sub-5... But no, a sub-5 dude with money who acts like a d…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 05:26 PM
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Most women in my sphere want to be, and are, self sufficient. They have no desire to “exploit” men. Most of the women who I have met that CLAIM to be "self sufficient" are actually exploiting men but would deny that they are doing so. They insist that the beta orbiters in their lives are "just being friendly" when they know damn well that isn't the case and that they are taking advantage of desperate men, who do not want to be there, who do not want to make the sacrifices that they are asked to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:12 PM
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So, if the problem is bitterness and anger; explain street pimps... Street pimps are WAY more bitter and angry than incels...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 04:48 PM
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Awesome man! I'm rooting for you!
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:53 PM
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Oh yes... I have been called gay MANY times IRL... Lol Simps are the first to pull that card but women definitely aren't above using it either...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:37 PM
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"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson If you really don't want to break the law though; you can still move/travel and you are effectively voting with your wallet whenever you do so. If incels started saving up and traveling to get laid; that would take money out of local economies and funnel it to Nevada, Asia, or Eastern Europe.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:33 PM
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You can still move/travel to a place where it's legal or just break the law. "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson Even if you don't want to break the law, or move; a guy could at least put on a pink penis hat and try to organize a men's march about it. Even if it fails; at least it can be used as another example of how little society cares about men.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:30 PM
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Oh yeah, "female intuition"... That must be what the women going after inmates are using for mate selection... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 03:21 PM
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That is hilarious! I'm stealing it... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 01:29 PM
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For the vast majority of men, biological wiring regarding sex greatly overcomes reason. Yeah, it's very sad, but true... Men will sell their soul for a crumb of pussy... Also, with respect to women, they aren't misandrist towards men they lust after. They're always "you're an exception" to them (even if those men are anything but). Yep, and then those men immediately go back to being predatory monsters the second that they do something that doesn't benefit her... Imagine someone who felt about a…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 01:01 PM
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Yep, and all these taboos and laws that we have against things like prostitution, mail-order brides, MGTOW, and now Passport Bros being under attack; is effectively the mechanics of the simp factory... How do you create simps in a world where sexlessness is tolerated/celebrated and sex is $50? Women would have to find ways to offer actual value and feminists can't have that...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:35 PM
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Because men, ultimately, want to be lusted after. It goes deeper than that... If that was the extent of it; a gay bar would do nicely to fulfill this need... Men want to be lusted after specifically BY A WOMAN... When you consider how disgusting women's perception of men is though; this behavior feels completely devoid of self-respect... Why would a person want ANYTHING to do with someone who sees them as a predatory monster? If you NEED to get your nut off that bad; at least prostitutes will le…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:29 PM
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Yeah, the Black Pill Wave Function seems to only collapse when they have a son and start caring, or at least pretending to care, about men's issues... Otherwise; they are all incels...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:21 PM
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I personally think that the biggest deal with being a virgin is the that fact that escortmaxxing exists. I don't look down on virgins because they can't get laid. I look down on virgins because society has tricked and manipulated them into boycotting their best options. At the end of the day; ALL women have a price tag and you WILL pay for sex, one way or another, relationships are just a glorified form of prostitution, I just don't understand why, armed with this knowledge, as blackpillers are;…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:09 PM
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Yeah, I get that is probably what they are going to say... I just know it's bullshit... Street Pimps are bitter and angry as fuck, and they slay... It has nothing to do with being bitter and angry... They also like to say that all incels (and by incel, I am referring to basically anyone in the man-o-sphere) are terminally online as well. So, you have "incels", that never leave the house to meet people, simping for the women that they don't meet, while simultaneously being an angry and bitter dic…
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:51 AM
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You're right... Caring about men's issues doesn't help them get pussy... In fact; it hurts their ability to get pussy... Ideally a woman wants either a sociopathic thugbeast or a protector/provider who puts her first... Neither of these men are particularly incentivized to care about men's issues... Unless maybe if the protector/provider ends up having a son who gets blackpilled... Otherwise, men are disincentivized to care about men's issues...
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 12:26 AM
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In my eyes, a lot of women are just as ignorant towards the way men work as men are towards women, but it seems that this is not the dominant narrative They are MORE ignorant... There are countless campaigns flooding schools and universities to "bring awareness to women's issues", you can't walk onto a college campus or browse social media without hearing them bellyache about their issues, especially their issues with men, has there EVER been a campaign to bring awareness to men's issues? Probab…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:32 PM
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Yeah, maybe a lot of men do these days and maybe they are tired of pretending otherwise...
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:14 PM
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I never said I didn't hate women... You're putting words in my mouth... I can neither confirm nor deny my hatred of women... Especially women like you... But I will say that most of the dudes here have good reason to hate women... Like I said; you should have made your move back when "incelswithouthate" was a thing if you wanted blackpillers to simp for you...
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:08 PM
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Even the ladies in the Philippines don’t want you I've got news for you hun, I don't want the ladies in the Philippines either... I am absolutely disgusted by how women view men and I want no part of it... What I personally want is to see more videos like these while I laugh, and laugh, and laugh... they just tolerate you because you pay them. And? How is that any different than any other woman? You yourself are over there talking shit like "financial stability" in your OP... Even you have a pri…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:58 PM
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A woman, calling men, "unpleasant" to be around? That's fucking rich... Ever heard of PMS? Listen, gold digging on black pill forums isn't going to get you anywhere... The Chad who would have paid your bills was 20 years and 30 lbs ago and has probably never heard of AllPillDebate... The guys who might have made you their sugar baby are already in the Philippines... Stop trying to sell us your coochie... We don't want it... If anyone here wanted to escortmaxx; there are better, cheaper, options …
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:33 PM
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Aside from a couple people here, nobody here promises to be a loving and kind and attentive romantic partner who would adore and simp for his wife. Should have found us 5 years ago back when we were all still simping for crumbs of pussy... It's too late now... A lot of us don't even want women anymore... We are just enjoying laughing at them while they are burning down the dating market and shooting themselves in the foot... Lastly, the dudes here seem to get angry that a woman expects a man to …
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 07:53 AM
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Hybristophilia Their options on the outside don't make them horny like a big dangerous thugbeast who will send them to the hospital for not fetching his beer fast enough. I've heard stories of psychology professors saying; "The best way to do foreplay is to chase her around a table." Women intentionally seeking out bad boys is a very well documented phenomenon.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:48 AM
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I think that humanity probably goes through cycles of simping and red/black pill. If you look at figures like Giacomo Casanova he was VERY blue pilled and would be considered a MASSIVE "simp" by today's standards but the prevailing sentiments among the men of his era were very traditional and mostly red/black pill. I think that if the majority of men are black/red pilled then a woman will appreciate a man who simps for her, but if the majority of men are simps then she will take that same man fo…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 05:19 AM
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Yeah, they have been doing damage control for all of recorded history. You can clearly see it if you pay attention. The problem is that the internet exists now and so it's harder to cover up, men can talk amongst ourselves and share our stories anonymously without worrying about some simp shooting us for a chance at a crumb of pussy, while their feelings and behaviors are simultaneously put on full display by traitors to the sisterhood. The genie is out of the bottle. That being said, I wouldn't…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 04:17 AM
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Then she starts cumming buckets and immediately wakes up from her feminist fever dream. As long as we are writing fanfic; I figured I would give an alternate, more realistic, ending...
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 03:30 AM
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Make money and escortmaxx...
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 02:49 AM
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Just start trauma dumping on her and go "vegan" for "religious" reasons so you can't order food at restaurants without reading the ingredients list on the package, suggest a non-food date, and if she insists; "accidentally" forget your wallet at home. If she makes you eat meat; start welling up with tears, run off to the bathroom, and make yourself puke. Also tell her that you are a bisexual bottom and considering trying cross dressing. Maybe even tell her a story about how you keep seeing a dud…
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 02:10 AM
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Idk, I don't think that's the case... In my last post that got taken down; we went back and fourth for awhile where I had quite a bit of difficulty getting a straight answer about whether I was allowed to repost it with a different title. I could tell that she REALLY didn't want me posting it but that the other mods overruled her or she suspected that they might at least. If she was the only mod; I don't think any of my posts would have been allowed.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 01:19 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure I have made a post to PPD that hasn't been removed by her and then had that decision overruled by the other mods later. One time I did have to modify my title after she removed it because it was kind of click baity. Otherwise; the other mods have never had a problem with me.
/r/AllPillDebate02/07/23 01:02 AM
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I don't think it's so much about the place as it is about the face and I would bet that is probably what the top comment was saying too, but again, no way of knowing...
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 11:53 PM
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Carrying a gun is smart. Carrying a gun because you think men are crouched down behind parked cars waiting to rape you is paranoid schizophrenia.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 11:42 PM
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Imagine being offended that the "predator" you carry pepper spray for called you old and fat...
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 11:16 PM
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So the politically correct answer to "Where should men go to approach women?" without lying is essentially; "I'm not allowed to talk about that." and everyone knows it... I've heard others say that Black Pill is going mainstream... They might be right...
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:37 PM
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Some comments seem to be removed due to flair, which is understandable, but a lot of them were literally marked "no incl content". Now, IDK what was written in those comments, that being said, if your comment is the #1 comment out of 187 comments; maybe it isn't incel content, or if it is; maybe incels are a sizeable enough portion of the dating market to be relevant to the discussion? Idk, what are this community's thoughts?
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:24 PM
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Err... Women walk to their car, with whistles around their neck, and keys in their hands. When women say things like "men are trash", "men are rapists', "men are predators", etc..., etc... is that or is that not "women speaking of men"? The difference is that people believe women's lies while ignoring men's truth.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 10:10 PM
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Yep, and these ladies vote people... Let that sink in... This is probably the most important concept that men need to take away from observing delusional and childish behavior in women. These... Ladies... Vote...
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 09:40 PM
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How many companies are ACTUALLY still doing remote work? Even then; how sure are you that VPNs are 100% necessary for their workflow? We're not just talking about porn either, we are also talking about intellectual property. A crackdown on VPNs has been coming down the pipe for awhile now. The last thing that I personally want is a crackdown on VPNs but I can also see the writing on the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:33 PM
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For what? Remotely accessing sensitive data? Hardly integral to the smooth operation of any fortune 500 company. "Oh, no! Now we have to actually come into the office or call our interns!" assuming they even give two shits about security in the first place... Do you know how many databases store passwords in plain text? Even Google has a db that stores passwords in plain text... Ok, let's assume that because of pure magic and wishful thinking, for some reason; the entire economy will collapse if…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:24 PM

The difference is that women are trying to control men with lies and manipulation, while men are just telling women the truth. Geriatric pregnancy risk is 35 years old. I'm not exaggerating, I'm not being hyperbolic, your risk of having a kid with downs syndrome is ACTUALLY significantly higher after 35 and continues to increase with age until you hit menopause which can start as early as 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:14 PM
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Yeah, Virginia is totally what I meant, because it's not like this is happening in multiple states or anything...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:05 PM
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I don't expect VPNs to be around much longer, but yes, a VPN is a potential solution, for now... I still think it's going to piss a lot of people off, which is going to cause a backlash against women and feminism, which will be suppressed, which will cause an even bigger backlash, until the whole thing comes to a head.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:49 PM
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This ban on porn, just like the ban on prostitution; is a governmental push to control men through women/sex and curtail certain ideologies which will only exacerbate the issue and cause an even bigger push back due to a misdiagnosis of the root of the problem. I think the reprocussions are going to be that the man-o-sphere and men's rights communities will become even more popular as men are driven to the dark web to satisfy their sexual urges which will eventually culminate in either the colla…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:47 PM
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Humans are the most dangerous animal on the planet. Women are female humans. You are a fool if you allow their facade of innocence to fool you. No, not every lion that you approach is going to try to eat you, but if you want to be a lion tamer; you should at least understand the risks and have a few years of experience before you go talking shit to your local plumber. Put in the hours before you decide if I am being dramatic, that or persist in your folly until you wake up one day to realize tha…
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 04:34 PM
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If you're going to be blue pill; you should at least put your money where your mouth is. You don't have a right to talk shit to other guys until you yourself have been forged in fire and your impurities burnt away. Run the gauntlet yourself first, otherwise you're just simping.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 04:17 PM
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I think that this is a very good analysis of the situation and basically what is at the core of evolutionary psychology. I would like to emphasize the biological necessity of controlling men from the female perspective. A man can defend himself against other men, his muscles act as a deterrent to coercion. The only way that a woman can keep herself from being dominated by men is to get very good at influencing men's behavior so that she can get, at least one, or two, of the strong ones; on her s…
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 02:13 PM
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No, you are confusing the strawman that feminists engauge in with what men actually want. Men want submission and respect but it's not even so much about the submission when you really break it down, it's more about her staying in her lane. The problem is women are biologically incapable of staying in their lane due to factors like shit testing. It also doesn't help that men play the role of security which can piss women off sometimes too when they are being emotional, irrational, and trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:31 PM
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Somebody needs to explain to her that no matter how good she gets at Tekken; there will always be a short dude, somewhere, that will ultimately take her W... If that man doesn't deserve rights; then why does she? This is the type of seething anger that builds up in women who spend their 20s competing against men and chasing their careers... Then they wonder why Chads don't take them seriously...
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 11:45 AM
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Why would deaths in third world shit holes get tracked by statisticians? Common sense says at best those ivory tower eggheads can provide is estimates. Then compare gun violence now to what it was in the U.S. before feminism. Hell, it has sharply increased just since 1970. I know it's hard to believe considering how vocal the current narrative is, but I HIGHLY recommend that you forget everything that you think you know about other countries, dig into the issue deeper, and draw your own conclusi…
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 10:31 AM
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Life is very very cheap in those other countries. We just dont hear about them because why would Western media care when Afgans and Iranians and so on get killed? It's very easy to look up the gun violence/incarceration rates per country. Even as a westerner. Alek Minassian's father was part of his home so its not like that guarantees anything when it comes to radical incel ideology taken too that extreme. Elliot Rodgers father made him even worse as he was jealous of him and didnt take his blac…
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 09:21 AM
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Guns are even more plentiful in other countries where people are even more "misogynistic" and "radicalized" than in the U.S. and they do not have mass shootings, at least not to the degree that we have them in the U.S. I would argue that America's problems with violent crime can be traced back to feminism and the sexual revolution. When you look at the statistics and compare the U.S. to other countries; we don't actually have a gun problem, we have a single mother problem...
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 12:43 AM
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Girls love men who give* them* drugs...
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 12:27 AM
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Ok, so, strait up, go to each of your female friends who have friendzoned you, ask them to hook you up with someone, and if they do not; just quietly cut contact and ghost them. If your goal is to get a girlfriend ASAP then you do not have the time to be spending it on dead ends who are not contributing to your life. Every second that you are talking to them is a second that you could be spending meeting new people or improving yourself in some way.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 12:20 AM
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The question is; is this actually a bad thing? If we look at the countries where feminism is less prominent; it is typically countries where the men are considered "radical misogynists" by western standards... The dating market is already in the trash... I don't see what a little radicalization could hurt... What's the worst that could happen? Men completely collapse the dating market so bad trying to turn the tables that not even Chad can get laid anymore? Boo hoo...
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 12:05 AM
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I’ve yet to see an argument for chastity that doesn’t apply to both genders equally. Because a low value woman can have as much casual sex, with as many different men, as she likes while a low value man; cannot. A high body count for a man is a sign that he is high value. A high body count for a woman only signals a lack of self control. Sure, you COULD argue that a man with a high body count has a lack of self control, but it doesn't matter because he has to make up for it in other ways while s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:19 PM
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Yeah, people REALLY have a hard time grasping #3 for some reason... Studies have been done, unattractive women light up areas in men's brains associated with annoyance, and unattractive men literally do not even register in women's field of vision...
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 10:06 PM
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I would like to point out that; this is incredibly easy to say for someone who has 24/7 access to free, abundant, and legal dick even while they are single... When you've got 90% of dudes vying for the 10-20% of women who don't want a bad boy; it tends to make a lot of guys wonder why they don't just quit their job and sell meth for a living...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:00 PM
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Alright, the path that you are on now might be right for you then. Just be careful not to buy into the feminist hype around single mothers if you ever change your mind. Men and women DO need each other, at least for rearing healthy, happy, children. That being said though, yeah, as someone who isn't interested in kids; you LEGITIMATELY do not need a man.
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 09:14 PM
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Well if i lose my virginity to him he will see me as less. No, HE should see you as more, other men are the ones who might see you as less, especially if you make a habit of it and rake up an n-count in the triple digits. That being said, you're also likely to drive men away as a virgin because they either look at you and see too much work, they think you are lying, or both. Usually it's both in my experience. Ideally you want a partner who claims to have an n-count between 3 and 5 as a man, ass…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 08:44 PM
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It's not random, it just SEEMS random because normal, reasonable, individuals who have not been indoctrinated into the church of feminism; are not able to follow the non-sequitur that they are engaging in due to them being multiple levels deep in the feminist dogma. They are essentially low key implying that you are sexist ergo "proving their point" which is that the misogynistic and oppressive patriarchy actually exists... You know, because it's so self-evident that feminists have to go around …
/r/MensRights29/06/23 11:54 AM
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Most of the opinions about women on here are not regarding “landwhales”. Oh no, trust me, as an amateur fisherman myself, and initiate in the dark art of the jelly role; all of my opinions 100% apply to landwhales. The most important thing to understand about Gorlock is that she still believes that she is a 10 and deserves to be treated as such... They are all 10s, and if you disagree; you are an incel... Men don’t even want these women so that doesn’t make any sense. "Wanting" and "willing to s…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 09:22 AM
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I think majority of men’s views on women on subs like this are based on the likes and wants of above average women. When people go around claiming that landwhales are 9s and 10s; I think it's pretty safe to assume that there are no average women in the eyes of average women... I can't count the times that a woman has told me "Oh yeah, she's SUPER pretty!" just to get set up with Gorlock the Destroyer... But I do think most men don’t mind being with average girls but don’t want them. There’s a di…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 08:41 AM
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They are biologically driven to damsel. Locking themselves in towers, creating their own dragons, and then waiting for price charming to come save them; is part of their mate selection process. As part of their mating strategy; they are incapable of seeing their own privilege. Evolution forbids them from seeing a world where women have easier lives than men because that would interfere with their damseling mating strategy. Therefore; they assume that dating is equal for both men and women, and t…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 08:11 AM
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I support Transmaxxers... I support anything that exposes female privilege and helps to limit and/or spread the attention and resources of simps as thin as humanly possible... Consider me an ally...
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 11:11 PM
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Having met a few people from the transmaxxing community; I don't think that attracting women is the primary objective. For the most part it seems to be guys who have given up on the idea ever getting a relationship with a woman and are instead choosing to transition to reduce their desire for sex, get paid to jack off on camera, satisfy an AGP fetish, or some combination of the 3. The most popular reason seems to be to exploit female privilege and get paid.
/r/AllPillDebate28/06/23 11:04 PM
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Most of the information that you linked is about prostitution specifically, and do you know what enables those things to happen? The illegality of prostitution. It's like complaining about violent drug crimes, how many violent crimes are committed around pot in areas where it is legal and taxed appropriately? If you legalize and regulate prostitution; sex trafficking won't be a problem. ETA it’s very sad you can’t understand the difference between maple syrup and computers and a woman’s body Why…
/r/AllPillDebate18/06/23 01:28 AM
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you and all other men like you are using women like objects. Porn stars and prostitutes are actually people, they are not objects who only exist to serve your sexual pleasure. 90% of prostitutes want to exit and over 75% of exited women have PTSD. So, firstly; I'm calling bullshit on your statistics... Women and feminists love to make up shit to demonize men and control our penises... Secondly; nobody is forcing them to work in the sex industry... Are you exploiting programmers by using computer…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 08:41 PM
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I said “that’s not what I’m talking about” So, you just decided to reply to my first comment with something that you believe is completely irrelevant and unrelated to my initial point? You’re using semicolons incorrectly btw you can just use commas Yes, I COULD use commas, but I choose not to. You can replace most commas with semi-colons, how I am using it, to emphasize certain ideas with longer pauses; is not incorrect. Most people just don't know how to use them, and therefore; avoid them alto…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 08:22 PM
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The other things (porn and prostitution) are morally wrong Why are they morally wrong? They are morally wrong because they threaten women's control over men's penises and so women and simps have to use their legal authority to control other women's vaginas... It's the same reason that collecting maple syrup without a license is illegal in Canada. Allowing anyone to just tap the trees and sell the syrup would deflate the cost of maple syrup and crash the economy. The onlyfans girl who’s “flirting…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 08:09 PM
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Ok, well, when AI finally gets here, and feminists are pounding their fists about how it's "damaging men's mental health", "devaluing and sexualizing women", and "bad for society". When they start lying and claiming that AI is causing violent sexual tendencies in men worse than video games and scary movies combined. When your female and simp friends are blocking you on social media for being a "pervert", "predator", and "misogynist"; I can assume that the AI Bros can still count on your support,…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:50 PM
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Actually; that is EXACTLY what I was talking about... Also; the reason men SEEM more "anti-gay" than women is to prove to women that we aren't gay because any sign of homosexuality or femininity warrants ostracization... Women do not fight their battles directly, they use sex as a currency to manipulate men into fighting their battles for them. Which is why they are threatened by male homosexuality in the first place, it threatens to remove their influence over men, which they are biologically d…
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 07:44 PM
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Really? Because they have historically been extremely pissed off at anything that threatens to steal male attention away from them... Prostitution, Porn, Sluts, Male Homosexuality, Passport Bros, Hell; even Coffee Houses were a French, husband distracting, menace at one point... The only reason women aren't up in arms about AI yet is because it isn't a threat yet, but if you'll notice, already, to protect the interests of women; you can't get sexy with ChatGPT and the whole thing is framed as a …
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 10:34 AM
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I think the issue isn't the flaws, the issue is that a lot of guys are getting sick of giving women a pass for all of their flaws, while simultaneously; being held to much higher standards in almost every area of life. Guys are willing to overlook flaws and even pretend that they don't exist in order to make women feel more comfortable and secure... The only thing that keeps women from openly judging you based on the pimple that you had in 7th grade; is their paranoid delusion that every man is …
/r/AllPillDebate17/06/23 10:01 AM
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It really depends... Like, how much do I like the semi-attractive girl? How much do I trust both the semi-attractive girl and my dream girl? Assuming that I could trust both of them equally; I would choose my dream girl, obviously, no questions asked, but the whole reason body count is an issue; is because of Alpha Widowing and Hypergamy. If we are assuming all of the issues that are typically associated with high body count may be a factor; then that really depends on how serious things are wit…
/r/AllPillDebate15/06/23 01:52 AM
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Agreed, I still don't see them going away or reducing in number as they become more and more normalized though. I would also argue that most MGTOW do not actively identify as MGTOW too, so there is that as well. The same is probably true for incels as well actually, but I think an incel transmaxxer is probably going to know that they are an incel.
/r/AllPillDebate14/06/23 11:06 PM
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You didn't make the choice, the dating market did. I disagree, I could have stayed in and sucked it up, I would have gotten into a long term relationship again eventually and sunk back into my blue pill paradigm, but I chose not to because I didn't like my options. Now, I could have worked on my attractiveness and improved my options, sure, most people can, but I didn't simply because I didn't see the required effort as being proportional to the payoff. Now days I am working on myself almost by …
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 05:40 PM
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Have you considered that AI will accelerate material science and robotics? Also, give us MGTOW and Passport Bros at least 6-8% with our powers combined. lol
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 02:49 PM
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No, but I think it would have been an infinitely better alternative to trying to get men to stab her and then ultimately surrendering to her cancer. Like how tf does trying to get people to stab you help anybody?
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 02:40 PM
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I disagree on the MGTOW part, MGTOW doesn't necessarily mean avoiding sex altogether, it just means avoiding marriage and cohabitation. In my situation personally; I wasn't a Chad but I was a normie, maybe below average, getting laid about once every couple of years, I just decided that the juice wasn't worth the squeeze, would I say no if it fell in my lap? Maybe, maybe not, but am I actively searching? No, I'm just not willing to put in the work for such small and infrequent payouts. Transmaxx…
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 02:26 PM
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I don't think they are pieces of shit, if they are happy; I am happy for them. I do think that the left and feminism is going to have an incredibly hard time explaining this one though... Like, how do you explain people, who self admittedly do not have gender dysphoria, changing their gender, without admitting that there are deep societal issues that severely impact men somewhere in the chain?
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 02:15 PM
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I can see it now, brothels full of transmaxxing beta orbiters, and one biological madam running the whole show... Lol Nah, I don't think things will go that far (hopefully...), but if they are happy; I am happy for them...
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 02:07 PM
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Idk, I think these people are much more common than the left would like to admit... Until somebody gets some recent data; there is really no way to know what percentage of the population this demographic makes up considering how new all of these recent developments are. Even then, we are talking about phenomena that only started gaining serious ground about 3 years ago, what does that look like 10-20 years from now if trends continue? One thing is for sure; the dating market has destabilized and…
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 12:07 PM
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Some incels are transitioning to get access to what they call the "transbian dating market" and higher quality men than if they didn't transition. It's also about autogynophelia for some of them and they openly admit this in the manifesto. It's a fairly small movement right now, but I expect it to get bigger now that mainstream outlets are talking about it.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 12:03 PM
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a female said that if she was a guy, she'd get sex simply by pulling her dick out on the street...in all absolute seriousness! Oh man... What I wouldn't give to give that woman a male body, watch her go out into the middle of the street, pull her dick out, get assaulted, chased off, and arrested... No force on heaven or earth could stop me from watching her/him do the walk of shame up to each one of their neighbor's houses "Hi, yes, I am legally required to inform you that I am a registered sex …
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 03:53 AM
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Idk, shaming and blaming Chad for not wanting you; that's cool, but shaming and blaming Stacy for not wanting you? I don't think that's going to go over so well... I think that FtM Men, and maybe even the Trans/LGBTQ community in general; are eventually going to find themselves on the opposite side of the purity wall looking in... Especially when you consider that a surprising number of gay men are former incels...
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 02:10 AM
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Not gonna lie, it's feels nice seeing FtMs getting sick of the tactical soap... Wait until they find out that nobody actually gives a fuck without their magic vagina powers... Norah Vincent anyone? Maybe I'll feel differently if I see a big push from the FtM community to get incels laid, but as is; I know that none of them actually give a fuck about men, so I'm just going to keep laughing my ass off...
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 01:56 AM
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How long until FtM groups start getting labeled as hate groups?
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 01:10 AM
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what do women do that would land them in jail if they were men? That's funny because I was just talking to someone about how her friend went into a store when it was closed, drunk, demanding to dance with the owner, and a free sombrero, being asked to leave, and not listening until she got what she wanted... If she would have been a hairy, 6ft tall, dude; that would have just been jail... The fact is that women only make up ~7% of the prison population because prison is built to house men... Nob…
/r/AllPillDebate07/06/23 10:36 PM
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According to feminists, the half of the population that votes for anything to the right of hunting males for sport; either all live in their parents basement, or are ultra-wealthy, oil tycoon, billionaires.
/r/AllPillDebate07/06/23 11:27 AM
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Nurses start at $300 a day. Prostitutes that you might even want to do start at $300 an hour. Depends on insurance as well as where you go to hire a prostitute... Even then, it's not completely unfeasible if you're making anything upwards of, $150,000 a year... Not exactly pocket money, but I know guys who make more than that... And she's going to wonder where you went -what's the cover story? The cover story is that I went to go get laid... I'm not going to hide it, unless she tells me to hide …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:16 AM
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There could actually be some truth to it, but I do think that some people over exaggerate it's utility... 1) NoFap can drive timid men to approach more frequently which obviously leads to more success. 2) It can raise testosterone, but testosterone can also turn into estrogen if you don't workout, so be careful. 3) I am not a Chad by any means, I would consider myself a "normie", but I have noticed that I have gotten more female attention when I have stopped masterbating, maybe it's just a coinc…
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 04:44 AM
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If I loved her, and it REALLY came down to it, I would give up sex, but it would never come to that... Even if she needed extensive care; I could either hire a nurse to take care of her or take care of her myself, forego dating, and occasionally hire a prostitute if that was easier. But yes, worst case scenario; she gets sick, I have to spend all of my money on medical bills, and I have to provide her with extensive care that would prevent me from dating, in THAT scenario, if I still loved her; …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 04:09 AM
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Prove what indirectly? How women manipulate men to engauge in violence by proxy on their behalf and sometimes get burned whilst playing with fire. I’m too tired to explain the dark triad thing. But it’s not because they think he’s going to kick anyone’s ass. I will still be checking my replies tomorrow. Take as long as you need to collect your thoughts.
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 01:02 AM
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Then why is it only women who are affected? Men are not typically prone to Stockholm Syndrome... Are you telling me that women think kidnappers are "special" and "superior"... No... They think that those men can kick people's asses... Men and women are BOTH doing the killing but we can only prove culpability directly with the men... To prove the phenomenon I'm talking about; we have to look at other factors that prove it indirectly. The fact that female mate selection drives male behavior is pro…
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:50 AM
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Well, a person has to laugh at the blatant disregard for men's lives or they might cry... That's the thing, women don't fight men directly, or they end up as a femicide statistic on womankind.org and they know it, women fight men by manipulating men to fighting for them... Why do you think women are attracted to dark-triad traits? Do you think they are looking at these dark-triad narcissists thinking; "Man, I would really like to have a family with this selfish, narcisstic, douchbag..." or are t…
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:32 AM
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It's funny that you are trying to talk about women getting murdered as an example of how bad women have it without considering the fact that men are 3x more likely to be murdered in spite of us being bigger and less verbally aggressive... That doesn't even count all the men that have died and continue to die in war, law enforcement, and hazardous work environments...
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:13 AM
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Women whine because benevolent sexism stacks the deck in their favor, and protects them from negative consequences, such as jail, which enables their horrific behavior. Men, on the other hand; are sick of it, and calling it out... I don't have to be "pretty sure" of anything, evolutionary psychology is on my side...
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 11:33 PM
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I heard a saying recently; "They cry because they ain't got hands." Well, in a similar vein; they insult because they ain't got statistical data.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 10:17 PM
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I don't think it has as much to do with men raging as it has to do with exposing their whole body positivity movement and shallowness shaming as the hypocritical, manipulative, bullshit that it is.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 09:39 PM

"I completely agree, I too have been worried about the genetic makeup of our children... In that same spirit; we should also hire a super-model as a surrogate mother so that our female descendants will have a figure to actually be able to attract a tall man to have babies with when they grow up." Would have loved to see her response to that one... Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:54 PM
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Red Pill has roots in evolutionary psychology... It's not just a bunch of Bros trying to get laid... You might want to give it another glance... Especially when it comes to creators like Rollo Tomassi and Dr. Orion Taraban... I want to point something out to you man... You yourself admitted that you are gullible and don't have a lot of experience in the real world, but then you imply that red pillers are red pill because they are terminally online... I want to float the idea that people IRL are …
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 08:56 AM
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Christianity is not founded by women, yet sex outside of a marriage between a man and a woman is unacceptable in traditional Christianity. No, sex outside of marriage was unacceptable for women, it was very common for powerful men to have bastard sons with multiple women that they were not married to. Sure, maybe it was technically a sin, but nobody ACTUALLY gave a shit in practice... You think it should be perfectly acceptable if men beget children they don't care for? If you have the ability t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:12 PM
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Yeah, I gotcha, but at least right now; they are clean.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 04:56 PM
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I guess I'll just have to cry myself to sleep on your momma's tittes to console myself...
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 03:13 PM
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After 25, I think the age gap is irrelevant. I think that the age gap is irrelevant at whatever age the government says "Men can go die for their country" at... Like I said previously, get those issues together in the same bill and I will support it, but I don't support war veterans returning home and being told that they aren't old enough to make a rational decision to date, smoke, and drink whatever they want... I mean, otherwise we have to admit that we are one of the only nations that sends …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:46 PM
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Yeah but think about when you were 18 vs now at 30+. The difference is huge. Yeah, and an 18 year old is a huge difference from a 10 or 12 year old... I'm also sure I'll see even more maturation when I start rounding 50... I think 80 year olds are mature enough to know that a 40 year old is more cognitively developed than an 18 year old. Mature enough to know, sure, but mature enough to admit when feelings and SMV are on the line? That's questionable...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:03 PM
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And there are even more and more recent studies that show that the brain NEVER stops FULLY developing... Hell, even the studies that you are referencing say that the brain doesn't fully stop developing but is rather just a point where the brain significantly slows down in development... If it TRULY stopped developing; we would not be capable of forming new memories after the age of 25... I do not support raising the age of consent, or the age to buy tobacco/alcohol, without also raising the age …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:40 PM
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If the age of consent was 40; 80 year old women would be pissed off that men were dating 42 year old "children" who are "barely able to consent"... It's not about the gap, it's about the fact that young women are poaching men that old women feel they are entitled to... So they will twist and spin the situation however they have to; in order to put a stop to it... If a man can, not only consent, but be drafted, to die for his country at 18; then a woman can consent to sex with whoever she wants a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:35 PM
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Do you think I'm going to read that, snap my fingers and say "Darn, he really got me there." No, I think that you're going to be embarrassed, get mad, and question my mental health, but you will walk away with a small nagging voice in the back of your head that will know that I am right, and then that small nagging voice, with any luck, will eventually turn into a power ballad of wisdom and self-respect.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 12:18 PM
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if your exaggerations are this aggreious. there is some truth in that, No... The reason we can't have a conversation is because you are trying to get in femcel pants by attacking me, the person who made the most up-voted, critical, comment, on their post, and attempting to prove to them that "not all men are the same..." What you aren't getting is that what they are doing is a manipulation, they know damn well that they are full of shit, and can therefore see right through your game too when you…
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 11:54 AM
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I can tell you that many 4/10 men who call themselves incels have better dating prospects than a 2/10 dark skinned african American woman. False, the fact is that Chad fishing experiments prove that even a 1/10 woman can get more attention than an 8-9/10 Chad. Men have a monopoly on TFL... Many men who deem themselves to be incels have options. It's just not the options they themselves would want. You can blame feminism for that... Feminist journalists brought the term "incel" to the mainstream …
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 11:16 AM
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A good thing? What do you mean? I would pay money to see the feminist reaction videos to the first low value dude, in his 40s, listing a long list of demands, and holding out for a megastacy, talking about "I am the table!"... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:24 AM
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Well, I don't think you are wrong overall, but I would like to attempt to challenge/change your view on point #1. I don't believe manufacturing jobs will be coming back to the states... I think that those too will also be replaced by AI... The only human jobs left will be therapists who specialize in AI related phobias, and the clergy... My reasoning for this is that if you have a fully accurate physics simulation, and you simulate an entire human brain, atom by atom; there is no reason it can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:58 AM
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That's what happens when crack addict meets crack... Anything that helps them get crack; is good, anything that threatens their consumption of crack; is bad... There is no logicing or reasoning with a crack addict... They have to want to break the addiction... That's why MGTOW and TRP exploded after COVID... Lockdown got a lot of people off the crack long enough to get help...
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 05:35 AM
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spouts the most ridiculous, man hating, manipulative, damseling, propagandized, pile of hot garbage that anyone has seen since "abort all men" was a thing, taking shots at the most vulnerable class of men in society actual story slowly unfolds over the course of a heated discussion actually meant to help her Notice how hostile the men are to my comments and posts This is why coddling women is a bad idea... When everyone is always trying to protect them from everything; they end up living in a fa…
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 01:46 AM
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Firstly; a lot of these women aren't as picky as you make them out to be... Let Chad roll up for a one night stand and they are going to cum buckets... Any denial of that is just a preemptive attempt to defend themselves from getting slut shamed... Secondly; let them go a few months/years/decades without access to any dick and they will cum... I guarantee it...
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 01:11 AM
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When you or your buddy is dating a bratty sub; its obvious when she has been dicked down... When your buddy's girl is being needy and bitchy, they both slip off to the bathroom for 5 minutes, and she comes back, hair messed up, and in sandwich mode; what would you think happened? Do you think they were aggressively playing tic tac toe? You talk about "real life" but have you actually observed couples in real life?
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 12:50 AM
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Fucked, maybe, but very effective at preventing single mothers, and by proxy; youth suicides, child homelessness, teen pregnancy, and the myriad of other problems that single mothers create. Consequences influence behavior... Also, there is no reason why we have to let the children starve, just give fathers full custody by default, boom, problem solved...
/r/MensRights04/06/23 12:36 AM
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I have seen countless women go from an aggression level of 100 to an aggression level of 0 after getting dicked down and then slowly start building up again over time... I don't want to imagine what would happen to those women if you completely cut off their access to dick...
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 12:20 AM
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You're not using someone just because you are engaging in a mutually beneficial exchange of goods and services, even if they are hard up. If a company is having a going out of business sale; you aren't using them by buying something, especially if it's at a fair price. I think the whole idea around people being "used" in this context stems from people wanting something for nothing. Then people like you and me get duped into buying their bullshit.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 12:12 AM
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I believe that, but I also know that if women couldn't get random dick; that fraction would significantly decrease in size for most women as a factor of time over which they have been without dick.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 11:48 PM
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She is not in the boat that she is claiming to be in... After talking to her and others who know her; it became clear that her problem was trying to adhere to archaic traditions in the land of no-fault-divorce and starter husbands... I understand not wanting to use drugs but why would it have been unethical to get "someone down on his luck"? Think about this for a second, when a woman is down on her luck, and a man helps her out; we just call it hypergamy... What's the problem with it going the …
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 11:23 PM
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Assuming that I still loved her; I would continue to provide for her and care for her but I would take a mistress. Yes, I think it is very unreasonable, especially in such a scenario. If a woman is unable or unwilling to fulfill her husband's sexual needs; it is only right and natural that he go elsewhere as men with the ability to do so have done since the beginning of recorded history... Strictly enforced monogamy for men is a feminine attempt to seize power over men using their vagina, just l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:01 PM
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Simps and Feminism... Women have been brainwashed into believing that they don't need a man while taking the femboy simps that they depend on completely for granted... South Africa doesn't have that problem... If a woman tries that independent single mommy crap in South Africa; people will not band together to save her... Her and her children will just starve... As a result; they have a healthy respect for the men that support them...
/r/MensRights03/06/23 10:49 PM
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and start gaming them I don't even think it's worth it to game them anymore to be honest... The misandry and gynocentrism has just gotten too intolerable these days... What we need to be doing is taking away their benevolent sexism privileges until they shut up with the man hating...
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 09:37 AM
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You're implying that they are actually putting any thought into what they say and do... You have triggered one or more of their insecurities and so they are just taking the most emotionally charged word that might be vaguely connected to the topic and pounding it into the ground until it becomes meaningless...
/r/MensRights03/06/23 09:09 AM
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If you didn't want us in your prime; you don't deserve us in your decline.
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 05:44 AM
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See, I'm not "punishing" you for anything, that is entitlement, I don't owe you a relationship. Are you "punishing" World of Warcraft nerds for living in their parent's basement? What I, and other men, are doing; is holding you accountable for your own choices in life and refusing to sacrifice our happiness in order to save you. And if you REALLY want a relationship; you can still find one, all wives are found, without exception. The question is; do you want to be a wife, or do you want to compl…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 04:54 AM
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I believe men can get pass if there are religious. If you are a religious virgin guy in his twenties few people are going to criticize you for being a virgin and wanting a virgin woman. That's not what I mean by "pass"... What I mean is that your religious belief does not exempt you from the male burden of performance... You still have to meet your male burden of performance, you've just limited your options... The divorce rate is alarming, but you're still less likely to get a divorce with a re…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 03:47 AM
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Someone can be religious, so refuse any guys who aren't willing to get married to her. A man doesn't get a pass just because his faith requires him to conduct himself in a certain manner... If she rejected dudes based on their religious belief; that is still a rejection... If she rejected them because they wouldn't marry her; that is even less reason for sympathy considering how fucked up divorce laws/statistics are... I can't go around rejecting any woman who won't bend over backwards and gargl…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 03:04 AM
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A woman going her entire 20s without being hit on once? I find that INCREDIBLY hard to believe... Even so; there was nothing stopping you from opening a few sets yourself... Compared to the full male burden of performance, getting a job, getting a house, getting a car, working out 3 times a week until you occasionally literally puke, approaching, paying for dates, etc..., etc...; is having to approach a few dudes really a big deal? Plus, Tinder has been around for AWHILE, there were other online…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 01:54 AM
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The difference between incels and femcels is that femcels still have options, there will always be some incel, somewhere, willing to date a femcel... Assuming that you really weren't chasing Chad; you still wasted your best years rejecting the guys who were actually in your league and now you expect them to welcome you back like the prodigal son... It doesn't work that way... You blew your opportunity... Be thankful that you even had one... The male half of the population has to earn the kind of…
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 01:24 AM
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You're not just talking about unattractive women... You're talking about old women who blew their 20s ignoring good men and getting run through by Chad... No man wants to be the Forest Gump to some old lady's Jenny... Let's not pretend that these old ladies are "free" either... A lot of them have higher and even more delusional standards than their younger counterparts...
/r/AllPillDebate03/06/23 01:05 AM
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Women on the other hand don not have this luxury due to sexist men and their insecurities. No, women don't have this luxury because of the double standard that is the male burden of performance... If a man has sex with a lot of women; it is because he has something to offer. He has met his burden of performance. Women do not have any burden of performance. They do not have to achieve anything to get an n-count in the triple digits. As a result; a high n-count on a man is a symbol of his success,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:32 PM
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Yeah, I don't actually give a shit... What am I going to do about his shitty government? I'm worried about my own shitty government...
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 06:27 PM
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Don't worry, I've got plenty of dick for everybody...
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 06:25 PM
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Many of them may not have a problem with sexual contact with another woman but you also have to keep in mind that many women bounce from one relationship directly into the next one. If you're going directly from man, to man, to man, it can be beneficial to dip your toe in before you decide whether or not to switch it up. Your options at that point are to either cheat on your man with another woman, or convince him to try FFM.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 01:58 PM
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A man doesn't have to lie to get sex. If a woman wants you; she will lie to herself. I find a lot of these cases of men "lying to get sex" is just women not explicitly clarifying the terms of the relationship before jumping into bed with a dude... Just because a dude might be looking for something serious; doesn't mean that he is looking for something serious with everyone he sleeps with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:31 PM
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I think the main thing to keep in mind is that equal partnerships are a lie spread by people who want to get the upper hand using manipulative tactics. When two people interact, one person is ALWAYS going to be more invested, and the other person less invested. Nobody can reasonably deny this fact. Your goal should always be to be the one who is the least invested, by any means necessary. Once you become the one who is more invested, not only does it lower your attractiveness as a man, but it op…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 12:53 PM
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Even then, if you make it a regular thing, you might eventually hear something like "Hey babe, I know that you have to work tonight, but I was thinking about calling Jessica over to hang out and maybe have some fun, is that ok?" I'm not saying it can't work, but you should be aware of the fact that by inviting other people into your bedroom you are adding instability and additional points of failure to the relationship if the relationship is ever under stress. I think every man who has the oppor…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 12:30 PM
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Until you realize that in FFMs, most of the time, you're going to be playing video games while your girlfriend is getting railed on the bed behind you by your other girlfriend who is considering monkey branching to a lesbian relationship. Happens all the time. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=goycsK6HBzs Do FFMs exist where both women are committed to the man, yes, but you're going to have to be a hyper-masculine alpha male to pull that off and even then, if they are always sleeping together, witho…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 12:09 PM
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So we should all just listen to you instead?
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 12:00 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me... Here is the thing, when it comes to tentacle rape hentai; men are not actually the primary audience, believe it or not... Hell, I don't even think men are the primary consumers of rape porn period, even though WE are supposed to be the ones who "get off" on power and control... Yeah... Right... That's why we are all "yes dearing" simplets... Because we get off on power and control... If you buy that; I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you... The thing is; a lot of wome…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 05:57 AM
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Iron Rule of Tomassi #2: NEVER, under pain of death, honestly or dishonestly reveal the number of women you’ve slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover. This also applies to potential lovers... If you are ever asked how many women you have slept with, the only appropriate answers are; "millions" and "I lost count"...
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 05:38 AM
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Translation: "Do not look at the man behind the curtain!" I guess all of the low value and average men are just supposed to ignore Chad and all his doings so that we can be ready to save an aging damsel when she finally decides to settle down in her 30s after she is a geriatric pregnancy risk... No, I think that paying attention to other people's sex lives is one of the most important things that you can do to protect yourself as a man... Call me whatever names you want, but at the end of the da…
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 05:23 AM
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A lot of guys think that they want an FFM, until they are actually in one... Just because you're in an FFM; doesn't mean you aren't still getting cucked... An FFM is often a woman's way of trying out a relationship with another woman without having to quit dick cold turkey...
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 05:18 AM
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No, it's credited to a book, called Dataclysm, written by one of the founders of OKCupid where he talks about some of the data that they were collecting and tries to use it to explain different aspects of human behavior... I found some histograms on p. 16 of Christian Rudder's new book Dataclysm that showed almost what I was looking for, and I then used some graphs from his blog to estimate the data so I could create similar charts in SAS
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:09 AM
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What is the analogous experiment to expose guys though? Something where men constantly SAY they want one thing, but their behavior consistently shows otherwise. There is no analogous experiment... Men are pretty honest about what we want... The closest you might could come to it would be for a woman to offer to fuck her "strictly platonic", beta, simp, orbiters, and seeing which ones change their tune about not being interested...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:01 AM
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The fact that you think this data comes from a study, and are already trying to debunk it, without even knowing where it was sourced from; tells me something about your willingness to try to understand this topic. Again, based on your OP and now this; it's obvious that you're not looking to learn, you're looking to convert.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:35 AM
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Is this any different than the sentiments women have expressed here about who they date? Yes, men are routinely attracted to average women. The stars have to perfectly align in a very particular order before most women will give most average guys a chance. Let's also not forget that women can be kind of delusional when deciding what constitutes the "average" man. For example, according to data from OKCupid; women only rate 1 in 6 men as above average. That number SHOULD be roughly 3 in 6, or 1 i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:04 AM
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how he was personally responsible for taking down 43 incel troll accounts on Facebook It has nothing to do with "SMR", in fact; women are attracted to dark-triad traits... You just got out-status'd friend... Looks nor money can compete with status...
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 12:36 AM
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Go watch Bear Grylls The Island Season 2... I'm sure that her plan is the same plan that most feminists have; to put the bigger, stronger, women to work for her, and if that fails; complain about how nobody ever does anything until they all starve... Ask any of these women what THEY plan to PERSONALLY contribute to this brave new world... You're probably not going to hear "road worker" or "roofer" from any of them... Their strategy since time immemorial has been; talk shit get wrecked cry and da…
/r/MensRights01/06/23 05:32 PM
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That isn't actually the full scope of the Black Pill. At least not from what I have seen. I mean, if you listen to content creators like Better Bachelor, in spite of what Rollo says about him; Joker still dates, he's not opposed to a little bedroom fun, he just doesn't want to get married or cohabitate. MGTOW, for the most part; accepts Red Pill Philosophy as true but still considers itself Black Pill. I would say that Black Pill is just any philosophy that chooses not the play the game, at leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:04 PM
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Men and women create life together. An egg, without fertilization; is just an egg. If we are being completely objective here; women just carry it for 9 months while it grows and if we are being technical, eggs, and sperm, are both living, so we both create life. Either way; the whole "womens body's create life" thing is just feminist cope. The people who say that women are smarter are either referring to the fact that there are more women in college (which doesn't make them smarter) or that wome…
/r/MensRights01/06/23 11:26 AM
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One in 10,000? Either I have been incredibly unlucky, or that is a very generous number... Are we also counting the times that they just spread rumors without going to the police? I mean, it might only be one in 10,000 if we are only counting the times that they actually go to the cops. They don't have to actually go to the cops to destroy your life though...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:14 AM
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And those are just a few of the incidents, that were caught on camera, that YouTube hasn't taken down yet... I will admit, the majority of women will be cool if you hit on them, at least in my personal experience, but it only takes one crazy bitch to ruin your life over absolutely nothing... You're basically playing Russian Roulette with your reputation every time you approach a woman in 2023.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:56 AM
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Because they couldn't get child support and pity points from friends and relatives... Why did you think that they go for bad boy Chads with dark-triad traits over wholesome Chads? Every woman wants to hop on Chad's motorcycle, but not his minivan... They WANT to be used so that they can become a strong independent single mommy while mooching off of their friends and family.
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 07:57 AM
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In my view it's not healthy to be motivated primarily by your libido. People throw around terms like "healthy" and "unhealthy" way too much in the dating space... Like, let's be real for minute; nobody in modern dating, and especially blue pill; knows anything about healthy relationships... Everyone is too wrapped up in concepts like "love" and "equality" to actually have anything remotely resembling a healthy relationship... For time immemorial; men and women have happily traded sexual access f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:37 AM
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Well, for starters; a penis means that we have unlimited access to unlimited sexuality. Women's sexuality is cyclical. But penis envy isn't JUST about the penis. Men beat out women at almost every objectively measurable competition with a few minor exceptions such as barrel racing and limbo. Men are stronger, faster, and yes; even smarter. The only time that women can compete against men is when there are judges/critics/educators there to subjectively hand out pity/pretty points. This realizatio…
/r/MensRights01/06/23 07:03 AM
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Ok, fine, the biggest problem WESTERN* men, in most English speaking countries, face; is feminism... Still doesn't negate my point that feminism has fucked over men in my country... The guy with the shittiest life on earth existing; doesn't invalidate the experiences of all other people.
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 11:14 PM
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If you were dumb enough to enlist in the last 50 years and get bent over a dumpster for oil in the middle east; that is on you and not my fault or problem... You signed up to be fucked in the ass by your government... The rest of us never chose to be #MeToo'd and benevolent sexism'd into the dirt... I'll say it again; feminism is the biggest problem men today face... Don't like it? Suck my dick Soulja Boy... Suck it clean...
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 10:43 PM
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Men's biggest issue is women... or more specifically; feminism, when you REALLY get to the root of it...
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 08:32 PM
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Finally, someone else making an argument that I've been making for years... Yes, this is 110% proof that the system is misandristic.
/r/MensRights31/05/23 08:27 PM
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Any criticism of a female and/or women in general; is "too far"...
/r/AllPillDebate31/05/23 07:55 PM
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Very beautiful and succinct explanation. Penis envy is the only concept that men need to understand when it comes to feminism.
/r/MensRights31/05/23 06:54 PM
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Honestly; that's sounds pretty sad man... I have too much self-respect to let them win... If I'm going to be rejected and cast out; it's going to be for being a raging "misogynistic" asshole not for trying to get laid...
/r/MensRights31/05/23 05:00 PM
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I would rather us be the last generation than to get #MeToo'd... Plus, there is nothing saying that you have to STAY in the land of #MeToo... Just because the west is dying doesn't mean that we all have to die along with it...
/r/MensRights31/05/23 03:38 PM
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Is it really a good idea to be dating in the land of #MeToo?
/r/MensRights31/05/23 03:30 PM
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u/Terrible-Ad9335 This isn't a bad idea actually... You might even be able to get the LGBTQ+ community on your side if you spin it right... Say goodbye to your sexlife though...
/r/MensRights31/05/23 03:18 PM
1

If she respects and trusts her man to make the best decisions possible for her and her kids; she will willingly give him that permission. If she doesn't respect and/or trust him to that degree; then they shouldn't be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:03 PM
1

Take your pick. School locations, moving to a better job, what kind of friends are your kids allowed to have, etc..., etc... If you cannot present a united front; your kids will destroy your marriage. Even if you don't want kids, if one of you isn't willing to submit; it's only a matter of time until outside factors out of your control step in and destroy the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:56 PM
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Sure, but keep in mind; just because they get a voice doesn't make it a democracy. At the end of the day, whoever is responsible for keeping the ship afloat; should be the one manning the wheel. If you're both competing for the wheel; that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:42 PM
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Yeah, you can talk about it, in fact; you SHOULD talk about it, but what happens when you disagree? Somebody still has to have the final say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:30 PM
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No, but somebody has to be the leader and somebody has to be the follower. No two people think exactly the same, without a clear dominance hierarchy; you are going to run into unresolvable differences that will destroy the relationship, guaranteed. Somebody has to have the authority and responsibility to handle the family's problems. Somebody has to have final say or the relationship is, by definition; unstable. If she will not give you authority over her, then the only alternative if you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:00 PM
1

What is funny is the fact that you clearly didn't even read my comment, you just NEED to be right, so instead of forming a proper rebuttal, which isn't actually possible because you are defending an undefendable position; you just waste everyone's time by repeating everything that you just said in your last comment and then expecting people to believe it the second time around... Repeating lies and half truths does not make them true... They don't fuck the pool boy behind Beta Bill's back becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:10 PM
1

I think a lot of guys, especially young guys; think that they want a masculine woman until they get one... Yeah, having sex with a dominant and sexually aggressive woman can be fun af, assuming that their personality translates to the bedroom, but then you will quickly figure out that you're both going to be constantly butting heads over every little thing outside of the bedroom... Not worth... If she doesn't flip on her submission switch for you; she is going to cause you problems, guaranteed..…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 12:43 PM
1

No, it's not common knowledge. What is common knowledge is that there are also vaginal orgasms that, I will admit; most women can't achieve with average dudes, but I personally am calling out "Alpha Widowing", hyper-inflated female egos, Disney, and the systematic demonization of men; for causing this issue... It's not my fault if she bought into the feminist propaganda and ended up with the female equivalent of ED... Even then, you're just going to ignore the clit during the entire sexual encou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 11:51 AM
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Yep, this is the best approach if you ever have to reject a woman. Telling them that you are a bisexual bottom can also help. Tell her that you're trying to be the meat in an FMM sandwich with diaper play. Just really pour it on thick, open up about all of your past trauma, get deep in your feelings, break out crying, beg her to constantly give you attention and make her tell you how handsome and awesome that you are and how successful that you're going to be. Wear a wig and make her tell you th…
/r/MensRights31/05/23 07:48 AM
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Not much you can do unfortunately. Lawyering up is the best advice that anyone can give you but good luck getting a decent lawyer as a high school kid whose parents probably are not even remotely taking this situation seriously enough assuming that they aren't involved in the men's rights movement. Welcome to your new life of being an adult male living in the west... Just don't ever complain about it or you'll be labeled a misogynist... Many of my friends believe this bitch for no reason I guara…
/r/MensRights31/05/23 07:36 AM
1

I call bullshit. If a woman can masterbate; then she can have sex. If this is legitimately how someone feels; they shouldn't be polluting the dating market and wasting everyone else's time anyway. They should just go, make friends, and leave the vast majority of normal, sexually active, people, who do enjoy sex; alone. It's not a man's responsibility to play a woman's manipulative games. A woman trying to secure protection and provisioning without putting out for it is almost the equivalent of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:08 AM
1

Yeah, it is different... One gives you intimacy, the other does not... That is the extent of the difference... Is it that I haven't experienced true love, or is it that you have never experienced love for a best friend that isn't fucking you? Something to chew on...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:50 AM
1

Yeah, the bare minimum...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:44 AM
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A friendship is not the same as a romantic relationship... Yes, that is exactly what they are... Always have been, always will be, both men and women are guilty of it... If you examine your own feelings carefully; you will see that you want things in exchange for what you are prepared to offer. Even from a blue pilled perspective; romantic relationships are transactional. Blue pillers just don't want to admit that sex and money/protection are the things being transacted because it highlights the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:52 PM
2

It's a technicality because without sex; what is left of the relationship? You might as well just be friends at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:31 PM
1

Sure, on a technicality, but sex is also mutually enjoyable. There is a reason why people, left to their own devices; will masterbate. Sure maybe a beta's dick isn't as tempting as Chad's but you can't tell me it's worse than the vibratron-5000. If she can't stand to touch him; why be with him at all other than to exploit his time, energy, and resources? Let's also not pretend that there aren't countless men in sexless marriages. No man enjoys meeting his burden of performance. Not when it means…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:02 PM
1

Sounds like a better deal than whatever you are offering...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:27 PM
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Yeah, that's why bad boys get laid more than any other male archetype, because they care so much about women's accomplishments and hobbies... Women don't want us to care about their accomplishments and hobbies, they just want wife benefits from beta males that they simultaneously refuse to have sex with because most of them can't get a hot, muscular, Chad who will also pay their bills. That's why as soon as a beta wants sex they deflect to "Why do you only want sex!?" low key they are saying; "I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:09 PM
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For men like Chris Hemsworth; it's both but I have seen preselection at work time and time again for men who are less physically attractive than Chris. I myself have had women who wouldn't give me the time of day suddenly change their tune when I started dating other women. Physical attractiveness helps but preselection is a status symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:23 PM
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In a relationship between men and women; yes... It literally is and SHOULD BE the only thing that matters... Let me ask you this, besides sexual access; what can you offer me that a male friend can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:30 PM
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No, men don't care about any of your accomplishments or hobbys because women are loved just for existing, not for what they do... That's the entire point... We don't like that women want us for our accomplishments and hobbies... We would much rather be wanted just for existing... Like women get to do but men do not have that privilege... Men have a male burden of performance... Most guys would prefer a woman who cooks, cleans, etc..., but let's be real; most guys will settle for a woman that doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:03 PM
1

Men and women are not directly comparable in that way. Big muscles look awful on a woman. Big tits look awful on a man. If someone is a rapist, that goes beyond just entitlement. Not when dick abounds... They may be starved for dick that they actually want, but they aren't just straight up starved for intimacy like ugly men are. Yes, it's wrong and entitlement regardless of gender, rapists are disgusting human beings, we can all agree on that, but a 40 year old virgin raping someone, and a slut …
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:42 PM
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They have it better because they have much more potential when looksmaxxing. They don't have more potential... It's easier for them to looksmaxx because nobody expects anything from them. If men make up most rape victims due to women, aren't women already at least a bit more sex starved than men? Sex STARVED? No... Sex entitled; yes...
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 01:18 PM
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I mean, we are kind of known for our Ivy League Colleges and being leaders of industry, which is kind of the entire point of education... The Canadian educational system has its head so far up it's own ass that it's trying to silence it's most influential authority on psychology in the modern era... But yeah, I guess because you crossed the border and met a couple of people who you judged to not be "quality" in terms of education; that changes everything...
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 01:09 PM
2

Men are fat, men are broke, men aren't educated, men aren't earning much more than women. If majority of men were fit, never mind even thin, then ya call women fat. And? Women are also fat, broke, and uneducated. The only time they outperform men in any objectively measurable way is when they get pity/pretty points from judges/critics with a few minor exceptions such as barrel racing and limbo. Men are better sure, we need to be even more better to complain cuz we still ain't shit. Just women ya…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 12:48 PM
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Sure, but men don't need to "do better" before we can criticize women. We are ALREADY doing better in almost every objectively measurable way... We are stronger, faster, smarter, and higher earners... Women need to get on our level and do better before they criticize men. Not the other way around. If women pulled their weight as the men lagged behind; maybe you would have a point, but that isn't what is happening. Women aren't virgins, they don't cook, they don't clean, they don't respect men, t…
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 12:05 PM
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Thank you for your support and commitment to men and men's issues! Keep it up guys!
/r/MensRights30/05/23 06:16 AM
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Explain without bringing up ugly women being pumped and dumped. That's like saying "explain why it's worse to be poor without bringing up purchasing power." I don't care what they say, the ONLY reason that they do not value it is because it is abundant. If they couldn't find dick to save their lives; they would be ravenous for it. Men already make up 57% of rape victims with most of their rapists being women when you account for feminist propaganda, can you imagine what those numbers would look …
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 05:57 AM
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If you can't compete in virtually any other arena, why should anyone believe that you can compete in the workforce? Especially when you consider that the workforce is basically just a harder and more elaborate competition... How about the fact that we make more money as proof that we outperform women? Nah, that's sexism...
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:14 AM
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Nor would I be here without a man, and even if I was here, without other men; we would both be hunted by wild aninals; what's your point? Women make up 45% of the workforce, don't pull their weight, and still demand equal pay while demonizing men for their own incompetence... None of us actually wanted any of you in the workforce... The few that can pull their weight aren't worth the problems that all the others bring with them... Feminists had to pass anti-discrimination laws in order to force …
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 04:07 AM
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And yet, even against incels; you still can't compete in almost any objectively measurable arena... At soccer; female world champions lose to 15 year old boys... As much as it may or may not suck to be me; it sucks worse to be you...
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:59 AM
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Men beat women at almost every objectively measurable competition with a few minor exceptions such as barrel racing, and limbo, the only way that women can consistently beat us at almost any activity is to have judges/critics there to hand out pity/pretty points, get on our level before you talk trash.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:55 AM
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Um... No... The truth is not somewhere in the middle... If someone says that the sky is red and another person says that the sky is blue; you don't meet them half way and say that it's green/yellow... The sky is blue... Men are ALREADY doing better... We built the world... Women need to get on our level...
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:48 AM
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1). You're on a dating sub 2). Maybe women should do better then. 3). Nobody cares that you don't like it. 4). If a mother is worth anything as a woman then she will get it. If she doesn't; then they aren't worth picking up in the street. The fact that you don't get that tells me something about your mother, and you by proxy.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 02:38 AM
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Well, technically, no because "forced to penetrate" isn't part of the definition of rape... Thanks Feminism... But morally; yes... You were raped...
/r/MensRights28/05/23 08:23 AM
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Once upon a time; yes, I was even pro-body positivity once upon a time. Even dated a fat chick for about 5 years, but then I learned about female nature, the double standards, the hypocrisy, the manipulation, the unfair systematic demonization and emasculation of men/boys, the silencing of any ideas critical to women, etc..., etc...; so now I actively encourge men to reject all woman born with vaginas period and just go MGTOW. You can fuck em if you want and help pollute the dating market, but d…
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 06:35 AM
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No, I'm 6ft, and I stopped dating before this whole "6'2+" nonsense. I feel pissed off about it. There are tons of good, amazing, and wonderful men but because they aren't 6ft+ women won't give them the time of day until they start getting desperate to bag a man before they smash, face first; into the wall, and even then; she is still going to resent him for not being the tall, muscular, and handsome man that she feels like she deserves. Makes me absolutely furious and a part of why I refuse to …
/r/AllPillDebate28/05/23 06:11 AM
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I think that this is basically the only valid criticism that TRP can levy against the black pill. That being said, going MGTOW and escortmaxxing can be a good way to maintain a black pill mindset even if you do find a woman to casually date for awhile, it'll be a lot harder for her to starve you of intimacy as a means of controlling your behavior if you have the hookup to just go to an underground Asian massage parlor any time you feel like it.
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 06:30 AM
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Yeah, I think I can see what you are saying. Duty and honor are masculine concepts essentially, and I would agree.
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 08:03 AM
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I would say that you are right, to a degree, but I would also say that an agreement has to be explicit before we can say it is a lack of loyalty and/or a breach of trust. The problem is that the party with the most power is the party that decides what is a "lack of loyalty" and/or a "breach of trust".
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 07:51 AM
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I think what’s more likely is a larger proportion of men are slipping below average This is not mathematically possible unless you fail to account for outliers, as the quality of all men shift; so does the quality of the average man. What you are really trying to say is that the average man is less desirable than he was in the 1950s, and you're absolutely right, but the average woman is ALSO less desirable than they were in the 1950s. Submissive, virgin bride, housewives do not exist in 2023. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:00 AM
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There is a lot of point actually... In a cult they will make questioning the narrative a taboo. As a result; this creates an environment where everyone pretends to believe and shuts down anyone who expresses doubt in an attempt to prove their belief. Society has painted a picture that if you can't get a woman; there must be something wrong with you. It is taboo to suggest that there might be something wrong with the dating market. As a result; every man pretends to be able to get sex all the tim…
/r/AllPillDebate25/05/23 03:01 AM
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All of the cases mentioned in this article are in the U.S. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2014/09/02/arizona-statutory-rape-victim-forced-pay-child-support/14951737/ The article makes it look like he just failed to press charges, except, in the U.S.; there is no statute of limitations for sex crimes against a minor... If it was a 14 year old girl, firstly, 10 years ago, when this whole fiasco happened; she would have had access to abortion in all 50 states, but secondly; I…
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 05:05 PM
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I guarantee you that guys like Nick Olivas are not just mad it wasn't them... I think that most of the guys you are talking about would be singing a different tune if they were in Nick's position. It may sound great to people who haven't thought it through, especially people flooded with hormones; but there are real consequences to actually being in that situation that most kids don't have the ability to consider thoughtfully. Consequences that could have disastrous impacts on their future and t…
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 08:38 AM
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No, I am engaging with it from their point of view, I just think they are overreacting, and if we are being honest; probably humble bragging... Let's be real, a lot of these women probably just want to brag about the bad boys in their DMs without coming across as a slut... They don't actually give a fuck about seeing a stick made out of meat that they can just click away from... That or they are low-key issuing a warning to guys with small penises not to hit on them depending on how the post is …
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 06:49 AM
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Ok, but they are an adult woman on a dating app, they should just assume that some guys are going to send them dick pics. If I'm on a casino website, playing poker, and I see an ad for Brazzers; am I going to fly off the handle and start talking shit about Brazzers all over social media? No... I assume that, if I am going to certain sites, and engaging in certain activities online; that is just going to happen, I should expect for it to happen occasionally, and when it does; I should just put on…
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 06:42 AM
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Oh, the rabbit hole goes WAAY deeper than most people realize. Mary P Koss, the woman behind the CDC statistics on rape; intentionally classified male rape as "sexual abuse" leaving them out of the statistics. Her argument being that "forced to penetrate isn't part of the textbook definition of rape" and that "rape isn't harmful to boys and men"... Check my post history for the post on 57% of rape victims being men.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 04:05 AM
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It kind of did, kind of didn't... It didn't destroy dating, it exposed it while simultaneously allowing women to engauge in a global sexual marketplace. This has had a negative impact on men as a group, for sure, but OLD is still a more positive experience than IRL dating for a man on an individual level. Basically; OLD is here, for better or worse, and yeah, maybe it arguably fucked shit up, but, since it's here anyway; you are going to be better off using it than not using it.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 03:26 AM
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Why would they say their dating experiences are positive if most women were assholes? Because they aren't comparing their dating lives to women's dating lives. They are using IRL dating from a male perspective as a point of reference. When you don't have to worry about being physically assaulted by women or simps; not having to worry about that is going to be a much better experience for the person getting assaulted and a much worse experience for the person throwing their weight around by engag…
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 03:15 AM
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I think that there are some problems with self-reporting in this case. If most women are assholes but one woman says "hi" that is going to be a "positive experience" for a lot of guys, on the other hand; anything short of infinite disney from every match is going to be a "negative experience" for most women... You REALLY have to be careful with self reporting, especially when it comes to gendered issues.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 02:37 AM
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Thank you for the clarification!
/r/MensRights11/05/23 10:28 PM
5

There is nothing stopping you from getting a lot of money if you are THAT confident. There is crowd funding, small business loans, cheap online businesses that you can start for under $1000. Like, literally just start an online store and promote/market it with a YouTube channel and other social media platforms. You're looking at less than $500 to get started, cut a buddy in for some of the profit to help you out, boom, you have a small business that you can grow and almost guarantee you a small …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:45 PM
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I mean, it HAS worked out ok in the past before, but it's never this glorious bastion of industry that women claim that it will be if only somebody would try it... I haven't seen anything like that ever grow beyond the stage of "small business".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:34 PM
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Like I said; put your money where your mouth is, if you're correct; you should have a HUGE advantage and completely blow all of your competition out of the water, and you can pay them less too giving you even more profits because; wage gap... I wonder why every company doesn't do it... Hell, buy stock in a bunch of S-Corps, especially your competition, if possible, prove your theory, then sue all of the companies that you bought stock in for not hiring exclusively women and maximizing your profi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:59 PM
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Have you ever ran a successful business? I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is, start a business, in any industry, using your own hard-earned capital, with the exception of the sex industry, hire all female employees, and see how that works out for you... There is a reason why men beat them at almost every competition with objectives metrics for winning with a few minor exceptions such as Barrel Racing and Limbo. The "quality" that you are seeing is a result of the benevolent sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:11 PM
2

The only difference between a high value man and a criminal is that the high value man never got caught. Prison is packed-full of alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:58 PM
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I don't, I assume that they are all average women between the ages of 18 and 36, but I also don't assume that the majority of young, fit, and fertile women feel any different from the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:50 PM
0

Take your pick, they want a man who can intimidate other men AND who comes preselected by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:28 PM
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Nothing you said changes the fact that the majority of young, fit, fertile women want a gang banging bad boy drug dealer who is trying to sell you his mix-tape... I'll agree that they are bottom of the barrel, the problem is that most of the barrel is bottom...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:22 PM
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Agreed, most women are attracted to dark-triad traits... This is a scientifically proven fact backed by mountains of data and evidence... The reason why they can't admit it is because this fact puts the responsibility on them for their failed relationships. If they are responsible for their failed relationships; they can't get sympathy from friends and family for being a single mommy and then convince a betabuxx chump to come be her forever trick... If you ask the question; "Why did you pick the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:42 PM
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Men cant be mad when women take half their stuff if they marry women* Fixed that for you... Otherwise; I 100% agree with you. Why do you think MGTOW is blowing up as David's Bridal goes bankrupt? Men are wising up... I mean, we still have a right to be upset that the laws are the way that they are, but you can't go signing a contract where the other party benefits from breaking it and then get mad when you get screwed... That's just silly... If you HAVE to get married; do NOT do it in the west, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:03 PM
1

Parsons was convicted of having a relationship with the pupil and sentenced to 12-months' imprisonment Did I miss something in the article? Don't misunderstand me, 12 months is a slap on the wrist for a crime line this, but it does appear that she did serve "some" jail... Just not nearly enough... Again; unless I missed something..."
/r/MensRights10/05/23 05:57 PM
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then expect a child at 28 with a BB A pregnant 30 year old is a high-risk geriatric pregnancy... At 28 she's probably already got a child or two. At that age she is expecting a BB to come provide for her existing Chad babies. It's actually better for her if he DOESN'T want a child, but she may have to provide him with at least one to secure her financial future, that is assuming that she doesn't just give him the ol' paternity slip and have another Chad baby that she will pass off as his.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 05:13 PM
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In 2023; yes, I would be put off by any waiting for sex period. She might have a 3 month rule for YOU but I guarantee that rule doesn't apply to the men that she is ACTUALLY attracted to. I am a rigid follower of Rollo Tomassi's Iron Rule #3 "Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies that she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait." He doesn't JUST mean, that it's going to be bad sex (although, he does mean that too), what we means is that women make ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:24 PM
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Well, the first part requires being intelligent, disciplined, and competent. The second part required being physically fit, armed, and trained for wilderness survival and combat, at various distances, with various types of weapons.
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 04:02 PM
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Yeah, at a certain point you just gotta nope tf out and go MGTOW and/or Passport Bro. As Trump says; "If you're not willing to walk away from the negotiating table, you've already lost."
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 09:33 AM
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Yeah, like I said, I'm not going to do it, but I would probably laugh my ass off to find out that say; the guy who has been impersonating rat and tom read my comment and decided to go nuts. Lol
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 08:54 AM
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Not going to do this, but my first instinct is to make a bunch of fake FB accounts, go to all these groups one by one, and start just commenting things like "OMG! I totally just had a ONS with that guy last week!!!" or "OMG! I totally just broke things off with him last week, run girl!!!" being as smart as possible about it to not get busted for as long as possible, jumping from group to group with a bunch of alts and changing my name, pictures, and location as necessary. Just run in and undermi…
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 08:25 AM
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I'm not sure if you were being unreasonable, but I also don't believe he was making a strawman. It doesn't seem to me like he was misrepresenting your argument, he was either ignoring your data entirely or trying to come up with a blue pilled explanation for your data and packaging it as dating advice while pretending to be GigaChad, probably both if we are being honest, but I admittedly only skimmed the conversation. That being said; I think that he was simply guilty of a faulty premise, but ag…
/r/AllPillDebate10/05/23 07:19 AM
1

"Hey Ladies, I'm GigaChad, watch me blindly defend you and then come have sex with me!" - Every Simp Ever
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:27 PM
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But it's not like women are out here wildly successful in our dating lives. It's exactly like that. It may not FEEL like that when a woman is struggling to secure a ring, but the fact is; she can still go down to the local bar and get virtually any dick that she wants. Virtually no man has that ability. I would assume that both men and women are both equally unhappy with dating. I don't believe that is a valid assumption. Women may complain more, but it's mostly humble bragging because they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:28 AM
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Because an unattractive woman can just go to tinder, upload a sub-par photo or two, and still pull hundreds of matches... That isn't even close to what dating is like for guys... I don't even think a Chad will get as much attention as a 3/10 woman. After beating your head up against a wall for months or years and getting nowhere; most guys are going to eventually look up a tutorial.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:09 AM
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What do you want to bet that this is about the same man who "ruined [her] life"...
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 04:14 AM
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Men, how much time do you spend in the gym 5 days a week are you motivated by positive or negative thoughts? A mix of both How's it turning out for you? Turning out great!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:33 AM
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Very beautifully written, and very precise. Great for academic articles where you have to be as precise as possible in as few words as possible but hurts the heads of dumb redditors like myself who can't keep that many big words in our head at the same time. Lol
/r/MensRights09/05/23 01:30 AM
1

But the dark-triad precedes the current dynamics of the sexual, marital, and marriage-benefit markets. Yeah that is why I edited my comment to say "or at least enabled by" after I thought about it for a minute... I'll be honest, your writing style is a little more densely packed than I'm used to seeing on reddit, but from what I can understand; I virtually agree with everything that you are saying.
/r/MensRights09/05/23 01:22 AM
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I would say that both enter into marriage as sort of a status symbol. A woman may enter into a marriage for financial benefits, and a man may enter into a marriage to maintain access to sex, but I think that even in the least hypergamous marriages, between the most high value people; it's going to be for family and the social status that a marriage and family bring, social status that is reinforced by the church, the state, and often a person's peers. I think that the self sabotaging is, in part…
/r/MensRights09/05/23 12:30 AM
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No, it's due to the fact that most women are attracted to dark-triad traits. He either abuses the shit out of her and she has to leave him, or he doesn't abuse her and he's boring so she leaves him... She wants a bad boy who is nice to her, but if he is nice to her; she has to keep testing him all the time to make sure that he's still a bad boy, if he fails her shit tests; divorce, but if he gets too aggressive when she isn't shit testing him; also divorce. To keep a marriage together with most …
/r/MensRights08/05/23 11:28 PM
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Well, what did it for me is that society gave me a certain expectation of women, then when women shattered that expectation it confused and frustrated the fuck out of me, by the time I found Red Pill I was already an angry and confused mess, once I understood the rules of the game; I felt slighted enough for being lied to and for being a participant in my own victimization by feminism and society at large; that I decided to do the exact opposite of what I was originally being programmed to do. I…
/r/MensRights08/05/23 11:16 PM
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Biology nor time ever promised her 100 years of youth and fertility. If what the original commenter said was true, and I am inclined to agree with him; she made the decision to ignore her biological clock, that's on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 09:41 PM
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Imagine you're fucking a dude, look up, and see this:
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 08:22 PM
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An incel can buy sex, a rape victim can't buy being unraped...
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 08:18 PM
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Why do women have such low standards for other women but such high standards for men? Because women are the competition and men are the prize... Who wouldn't want the biggest prize that they could possibly get while also having no real competition from their competitors? That being said; this whole feminism scam completely falls apart when they let themselves go to a point that their competition starts becoming the peace of being alone...
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 07:32 PM
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Can I get a sauce on this 70% statistic? I would like to make a post about it in another group if possible.
/r/MensRights08/05/23 07:09 PM
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Facts...
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 06:32 AM

Stop wasting time on bad women What a great idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:34 AM
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Well, yeah, normies deal with toxic women too, not as frequently as Chad, but they can still get laid maybe once or twice a year...
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 01:31 AM

Yeah, I'll just pop my ult on her if she starts yelling at me in a crowded bar... That'll solve everything...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:26 AM
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Every Chad and most normies have horror stories...
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 01:13 AM

And when a woman tries to violate those boundaries and benevolent sexism helps her to sick nearby white knights trying to get a piece of ass on us, or worse; make false accusations to white knight cops about us? What do we do then? Do we maybe make posts like these on reddit to share our stories and spread awareness of the issue to try to get men's issues taken seriously by society?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 12:18 AM
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Well, I think that the answer is relatively simple honestly... Women SAY that they are pro-monogamy for men's benefit... In reality women are much more accepting of infidelity than men both in terms of allowing their man to cheat and in terms of AF/BB. Biologically; women are incentivized to reassure men of their paternity while doing whatever they want behind the scenes.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 12:03 AM
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In their twisted minds; men don't have any problems, instead; men are the ones causing all of the problems, in the world, period...
/r/MensRights07/05/23 11:18 PM

Doesn't it strike you as odd that for decades feminists shouted "men aren't entitled to a woman's body" but now when men are shouting "women are not entitled to a man's wallet", it's suddenly "toxic"... Imagine two people are playing swapping licks, Person A hits Person B as hard as they can, Person B takes it like a champ and gets ready to hit person A, then Person A is like "Hold up, wait, don't you think this is a little toxic? Let's play bloody knuckles instead, I'll go first..." In 5 years …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 09:41 PM
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That's a pretty good point too... Wouldn't they just be blaming men online where they are anonymous while pretending to be a tradwife IRL though? I don't believe that they are collectively intelligent enough to ACTUALLY see it for the scam that it is after drinking this much of the Kool-Aid for so long. I think a lot of them will go to the grave, miserable, their last words being; "It's all men's fault!"
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 06:43 PM
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No, women are just generally more attractive and more desirable, not just in a physical way, but in any way that make men want to be around us. We are quality human beings. I mean now we are getting into subjectivity, the realm where women get pity/pretty points, but don't you think that men wanting to be around women, in spite of not being able to compete in virtually any other arena; could be saying more about the men than the women? It really is pretty much just physical... The highest paid s…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 03:35 PM
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What do you mean "getting" do you mean because men inherently and biologically want to look out for and protect things that are wearer than us and that women took advantage of our kindness and generosity in order to abuse us? If so; yeah, you are right, you guys really got us good, it's just not the victory that you think it is... For starters; men who support gender equality thought we were all on the same side until 3rd wave. It's easy to beat someone at a game they don't know that they are pl…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 02:43 PM
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But they aren't just as smart and capable, if there were; we wouldn't beat them at virtually every objectively measurable competition with a few minor exceptions such as barrel racing, and limbo... If it's just about them not being competitive; how do they outnumber us and beat us at subjectively measured competitions such as ice skating and beauty pagents? If it's about childcare, where are all the childfree women at the top of the chess and soccer leader boards? Shouldn't there be a woman at t…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 02:12 PM
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Except that, from my observations; most sexism is actually a result of penis envy... Men are more powerful therefore we are inherently evil just for being more powerful. If the data doesn't support that narrative then it's ok to change the data because men are stronger and can take the hit in the name of protecting women and fempowerment, even though, we don't actually owe women anything just for being stronger; those decisions still get collectively made for us by feminist leadership, especiall…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 01:41 PM
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With all due respect, what you just described sounds horrifying from my perspective... The guy with the kid might be fine, dude sounds kinda Chad-lite at least, but I almost guarantee that a lot of those other dudes either want out and are too scared of your reaction, are fighting sex addiction, or both...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:03 AM
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You know, thinking about it, it might just be a matter of "You can't stop all of us". The growth of the man-o-sphere in the last 3 years might have just literally overwhelmed them and made them nervous...
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 11:26 PM
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doesn't mean that being a black man before 70's was better than being a white woman Firstly; I don't see how that is relavent to the point I was addressing "without women making movements like this, no one would give shit about men" I was pointing out that men fought a war over equality, I wasn't talking about what gender had it worse in what ways. Secondly, I'm not sure if I understood your comment but; I think there is at least an argument to be made that the average black man was, and still i…
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 10:46 PM
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without women making movements like this, no one would give shit about men and they would just kill or rape each other (like in ancient times) 1st wave feminism was actually born off the back of black men getting the right to vote. There was actually a lot of language that would be considered "problematic" by today's standards used to that end which can be found in books such as "White Women's Rights: The Racial Origins of Feminism in the United States" I mean, black women weren't even allowed t…
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 10:27 PM
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Zoe Quinn was a gamedev who was having sex with like 5 gaming journalist to get exposure for her shitty video games, she was busted, gamers started calling her "5 guys burgers and fries", the whole controversy started a bid for journalistic integrity in gaming, #MeToo and feminists like Anita Sarkisian all jumped on board to support Zoe Quinn and Gamers collectively told them all to go fuck themselves. The whole fiasco became known as "GamerGate". There is a LOT that I am leaving out, lots of bo…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 09:57 PM
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I mean, uterus transplants are a thing now and soon people will be able to grow those uteruses in a lab...
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 08:00 PM
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Abuse, demonize, and rape normies and Chads who won't bend to their every whim while trying to #MeToo all men and get them thrown in prison over false allegations while they serve less time for the same crimes if they are even prosecuted at all... Oh, and pretend like they are special because we haven't started replacing them with test tubes yet while simultaneously not being able to outperform men with any consistency at most objectively measurable tasks, with a few minor exceptions, such as Ba…
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 07:21 PM
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Because they are never going to betabuxx the guys that they are mean to in high school, they are going to betabuxx a dude about 5-8 years older than the guys that they are mean to in high school. And most guys are indeed dumb enough to fall for it hook, line, and sinker...
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 07:13 PM
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Going to have to agree with the other guys here, just because it's more rare, doesn't mean it doesn't suck, plus; it's not as uncommon as you think it is... I would say every Chad is going to have countless horror stories of being abused, assaulted, and manipulated into bed by women. Hell; most normies have at least a story or two. Then when you consider that men don't report, so the numbers are probably much higher than stated, and that incels are out here literally begging for sex, while mostl…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:46 PM
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violence by proxy. I'm going to start using this term... More people need to hear it... Maybe eventually we will be able to defend ourselves through incitement laws...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:40 PM
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Nobody here has a problem with women but maybe a little discrimination against feminists who do not support equal rights for men is actually warranted on a men's rights sub...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:36 PM
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Nah, don't go private... Just require a minimum karma threshold for posts/comments.
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:33 PM
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And already deleted... Gotta love man haters always shoving their noses and opinions in where they have no right, and aren't wanted, or welcome...
/r/MensRights06/05/23 06:32 PM
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i promise you women (and people as a whole) aren’t as bad as yon think they are Some very smart psychologists and philosophers came up with an idea called psychological egoism that says people are EXACTLY as bad as I think they are. Including and especially the people who try to convince you that they aren't... and it certainly isn’t all about viewing someone as “weak” because she doesn’t wanna sleep with them Except, it 100% is, most men would sleep with a woman that they see as feminine, most …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:41 PM
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you dealt with an abusive individual No, I have dealt with almost exclusively abusive individuals... At a certain point it stops being about individuals and starts being a female trait that maybe some women do not exhibit... well, i’m a man This explains your middle paragraph then... You don't understand female attraction yet... You do realize that if she is single, and isn't fucking you, at least on the DL; it's because she sees you as weak right? If she saw you as a strong masculine man, she m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:25 PM
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to be sad that someone who you thought was a friend turns out wasn’t actually a friend? When that "sadness" is used as an excuse to scream, yell, throw stuff, assault, or spread lies/rumors/false allegations about someone else; yes... That is 110% abuse... You aren't entitled to physically or verbally assault someone just because they aren't interested in what you have to offer at the price that you are offering it... The emotionally mature thing to do is to politely move on and cry in silence o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:14 PM
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If women go their own way and are distant from men then they are seen as being mean by isolating men and are seen as causing depression amongst men What? No... That is what women do to men... Men have been begging you guys to leave us alone for the last 50 years but women just keep forcing their way into male only spaces, getting them shut down, or shaming us/calling HR on us for not wanting to be friends. There are no more "boys clubs", just places where justifiably angry and bitter men can go …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:58 PM
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Because beta male simp orbiters are beta male simp orbiters because they are abuse victims whose abuse has been normalized and having them as a "friend" is predatory and taking advantage of an abusive victim's unresolved trauma in order to gain access to their time, energy, and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:21 PM
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its one thing if he asks her out, she says no, he gets over it and they continue platonically Have you considered that just because you want friends of the opposite gender and don't see a problem with it doesn't mean that everyone else does and that you aren't entitled to abuse someone just because they don't want to be your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:16 PM
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Something something, only want sex, something something, entitled to a woman's body, something something, respect women by giving them unconditional access to your time, energy, and resources forever, something something, man bad, something something, woman victim...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:06 PM
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Maybe this is a controversial opinion but Essentially, yes, otherwise 99.99% of the time; you are a predator who is taking advantage of a mentally weak and vulnerable beta male simp orbiter who has been brainwashed and beat into "respecting women" to the point that it takes him weeks, months, or sometimes even years, to make a move, and then he becomes afraid to break off the friendship because of the abuse that he has suffered from women for doing that too. You are effectively taking advantage …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:43 AM
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or this
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 12:45 AM
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Revealing? It's already revealed... They've been screaming it from the rooftops since the 70s... Men are just now starting to listen...
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 12:14 AM
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I mean, right now a lot of MGTOW are literally picking their hand over women as David's Bridal is going bankrupt... Yeah... Not gonna lie; women have REALLY dropped the ball in the last 50 years...
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 11:12 PM
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"Mother Earth's Karma" until a woman wants a man... Then he deserves to be harassed with homophobic slurs or raped while feminists like Mary P Koss downplay and ignore his abuse...
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 10:11 PM
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At the same time; you should keep yourself sharp enough to let society know what it is missing and be physically and mentally prepared enough to make them think twice about forcing you into obedience.
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 08:28 PM
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I don't think firing someone from thier job for this is justified But labeling him a "predator", trying to destroy his relationship, physically assaulting him, trying to turn his friends and family against him, etc..., etc..., is justified? Would you want a woman you cared for date an older man who going to waste her time and leave her for a younger woman? Or would you want them to be head over heels in love with someone who is just using them as arm candy / ego boost? That's why these warnings …
/r/MensRights05/05/23 07:21 PM
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Yeah, that's why a lot of people say don't date single mothers. It's not just that you gotta take care of those kids, it's also that those kids are going to have trauma that you probably aren't going to have the ability or authority to deal with. 71% of pregnant teenagers lack a father. [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services press release, Friday, March 26, 1999] 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average. 90% of all homeless and runa…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/23 07:10 PM
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That's not what the OP is talking about and I am pretty sure that you know that... Again how is labeling every man who is attracted to or dates younger women a "predator", trying to destroy his relationship, trying to get him fired from his job, physically assaulting him, trying to turn his friends and family against him, etc..., etc...; "issuing a warning"?
/r/MensRights05/05/23 06:54 PM
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Older women only issue a warning So you're saying that labeling every man who is attracted to or dates younger women a "predator", trying to destroy his relationship, trying to get him fired from his job, physically assaulting him, trying to turn his friends and family against him, etc..., etc..., is "issuing a warning"? "People, and especially young people, should be careful when dating period" is issuing a warning, demonizing good men as "predatory" just because they like being looked up to is…
/r/MensRights05/05/23 06:44 PM
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I just don't see why you can't date someone around your age. Because a 35 year old man has infinitely more sexual market value than a 35 year old woman. At that age; men's careers are taking off, we might have some distinguishing grey hairs coming in but we are still relatively fit, we might even be gaining a small following on social media, and we are probably making bank, but a woman at that age has already lost her looks 5-10 years ago, she is considered "high risk" for pregnancy and all of h…
/r/MensRights05/05/23 03:33 PM
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Older women are trying to brainwash you into giving up your best options for the same reasons that they try to brainwash men into not going overseas, hiring prostitutes, watching porn, or having any standards at all. Literally just heard an old lady say that men are "low value" if we don't want to date a woman with herpes trying to compare it to having cancer... Guess what her herpes status is... Older men are established and often want a traditional relationship, do some exist that are indeed m…
/r/MensRights05/05/23 02:17 PM
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What things do women care about that don't benefit them or have to do with a man doing something for them? What do you think motivates people?
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 11:33 PM
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Would it make her less attractive if she worked a minimum wage job and didn't have any aspirations to progress? Or do you not really care and it wouldn't affect your attraction to her. It would actually make her less attractive if she worked a high paying job. Not because there is anything inherently wrong with earning a lot of money, it's just that women who earn a lot of money tend to have an ego that makes them unappreciative of their men which leaves a bitter taste in a lot of men's mouths..…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:21 PM
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The betting is now open on how long it will take until this becomes a headline in a BBC or Guardian article...
/r/MensRights04/05/23 06:52 PM
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Society would revert back to the Victorian Era except with phones and AI. Socially enforced monogamy would come back, Men would be the heads of the household again as phrases like "happy wife, happy life" died out, and simps would become appreciated by women again as Casanova Chads.
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 06:29 PM
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No, didn't you read my comment? I completely agreed with you... Men and women are exactly the same in every conceivable way... A penis is just an optical illusion created by patriarchal brainwashing and giant mirrors... Thank God we have people like you to let everyone else know about this new scientific breakthrough...
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 05:13 PM
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extremism gets the clicks, and clicks get the money Unless you're a male "extremist"... Then you get canceled, demonetized, and deplatformed... they just don’t know it because they’ve been taught things about feminism by people who have a vested interest in maintaining divisions between people. Is it not also possible that pro-male "feminists" have been taught things about feminism by people who have a vested interest in promoting female chauvinism under the guise of gender equality? Extremists …
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:55 AM
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r/mensrights is for anyone who supports Men's Rights. I would probably stay away from the MGTOW and Incel spaces, as those are very much male-only spaces, but you are very much welcome and appreciated here.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:29 AM
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Sounds like men need to start banning people from r/offmychest and redirecting them to r/TrueOffMyChest on the subs that we moderate...
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:20 AM
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Yeah, that's the funny thing about feminists, they worm their way into positions of power, in every facet of society imaginable, and then immediately start abusing that power to silence and oppress men... So glad that GamerGate and MetalGate forcibly kicked them out of those space before they got a foothold...
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:14 AM
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Damn, if only neuroanatomy existed Oh yay, we know that dopamine and oxytocin is released for both men and women, in regions that are spacially similar to each other, after looking at large sections of the brain because our instruments are too imprecise to see in any more detail than that without killing the subject... That tells us absolutely everything that we could ever possibly want to know about male and female attraction as well as what features EXACTLY trigger that chemical cocktail... Wi…
/r/AllPillDebate04/05/23 09:28 AM
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This^ It's funny because you know she is posting this to try to get attention and let incels know what they "lost out on" for not worshipping womyn in her post about artists, cats, and gamers, but let's be real; she was never out there fucking incels in the first place... You're threatening to take a legless man's shoes ma'am... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:04 PM
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why should we care about romantically getting together with males You shouldn't... If the value of a man isn't self evident to you; then you absolutely shouldn't be getting together romantically with men... it is not safe, it is dirty and disgusting, males don't deserve our love No, I definitely agree with you. You should stay very VERY far away from all men. At least 50 meters. we don't matter other than as a tool to validate them And why do you think women choose the men that they choose? Wome…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 10:48 PM
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so why should we give incels a chance? You shouldn't... so why does it matter whether we go for chads, normies, gay , or asexual? It doesn't... it's not like we mean anything in the eyes of males Women don't get female privilege by not meaning anything to men... The problem is that women don't like what they mean to men and instead want to be valued like men... The funny thing is that, as a cruel irony; most men do not like what they mean to women and want to be valued like women... Neither is e…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 10:07 PM
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When every object that you let go of falls; it's hard not to interpret that as being a result of gravity. How else is someone suppose to interpret these kinds of facts almost half a century after full gender equality? I guess I'm just supposed to play dumb... 'Hmm I have no idea why men consistently outperform women at almost every objectively measurable task, must be patriarchy..."
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 02:54 PM
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Consistently? I am looking at the best ultralmaraton runners right now, most of them seem to be dudes... Is there a specific category of ultralmaraton running where women consistently outperform men? Even if true; that's only 1... Which I think kinda proves my point.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 02:52 PM
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Anything short of licking women's assholes is "gender jingoistic bullshit" in our pussy whipped gynocentric cult that we call western civilization. Facts are not sexist... They are just facts...
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 02:38 PM
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Where did I say men are better than women? I pointed out things that men are better at, I can't help it if those things being "virtually every objectively measurable task" triggers you... Am I wrong? If so; why can't you name 3? Maybe you should do some introspection and figure out WHY that FACT triggers you... The difference is that feminists say "women are better than men", what I am saying is that "men are better than women at certain activities", I can't help it if those activities just happ…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 02:31 PM
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Name 3 objectively measurable competitions, besides barrel racing and limbo, that women consistently outperform men at... I also find it hilarious, that you quoted a band, that has had a total of 8 members join across it's lifetime, all of which were men; to ad hominem me for making unrefutable points, that challenge your social programming, and trigger your cognitive dissonance... The very definition of irony...
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 02:01 PM
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Yeah, you also lost the privilege of receiving a rebuttal... Before he did actually...
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 12:06 PM
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And this is where we conclude our conversation... Nice strawman though...
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:50 AM
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I already addressed this point. men, are on average, at least more intentional with their art than women, and no, more intentional doesn't necessarily mean better, but I would imagine that it doesn't hurt to have more control over each stroke.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:49 AM
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Everything that you are mentioning is based on personal opinion, not objective fact. Who cares if you like "cute sonic and anime" better than "generic western capeshit artist" in a competition around who can draw the straightest lines with the most consistency; men are going to do the same thing that they do in every other objectively measurable competition; win... Also; Here are 3 numbers 3, 2, 5 The average of those numbers is "3.33". Now let's add a 10 and see what happens... The average of 3…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:46 AM
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Sure I do, I just appreciate skill more.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:40 AM
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The top raises the average.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:37 AM
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After reading your other comments; I think that you are entirely too obsessed with gay people... I mean, there is being against homosexuality, and then there is "being against homosexuality". I had a friend who REALLY hated gay people, couldn't shut up about how everyone else was gay and about how awful gay people were, turned out he was secretly smoking sausage the whole time... No judgment, just saying; you're not fooling anyone kid...
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:34 AM
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That is your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but it doesn't change the fact that if you take personal opinion/subjectivity out of it and make it an objectively measurable competition; the top men are going to win that competition unless the women can somehow benefit from a size or weight advantage. In other words; take away the possibility of pity/fempowerment points being awarded by critics and judges due to gender and/or clues about gender and give the men an objective standard to aspire t…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 11:03 AM
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For Art: Because women cannot compete with men in any objectively measurable field, with a few minor exceptions such as Barrel Racing, where they have a weight advantage, and still primarily use male horses... So why wouldn't I just follow a man? The only reason we say that women are as good as men at art is because beauty is in the eye of the beholder making art inherently subjective, that being said; the men at the top are going to consistently beat out women any time you make it a competition…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 10:33 AM
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I'm noticing you are still basing your points on the assumption that machine neurons and brain are identical to human neurons and brain. No, I understand that they aren't identical, what I'm saying is that there is no reason that they couldn't be. For example, every neuron in a real brain contains a little bit of memory, a neuron in a computer doesn't, it puts all of it's memory in a centralized location. However, there are now ML models being developed to give each neuron it's own memory, just …
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 09:57 AM
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Why not? As long as her responsibilities are met, and she isn't out shaking her ass and tainting our relationship to meet them; why should I care HOW it gets done? If my wife would rather work outside the home and then pay someone else to meet her responsibilities inside the home; why should I care as long as the responsibilities are met? The fact that she paid someone else to do the laundry doesn't make my shirt any less clean. I actually think that would be an ideal situation to be in because …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:30 PM
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My responsibilities, in that scenario; would be to keep the house clean, do the dishes, do the laundry, have food prepared, etc..., etc..., every responsibility of a traditional housewife would be my responsibility and I would meet those responsibilities by paying someone else to do them. How I would pay for them; would be the same way that I pay for anything else; with money from my career, investments, and side hussles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:18 PM
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No, because the only reason why most women would be willing to pay ANYTHING would be so that she could pawn most of her duties off onto me. Suddenly we are both paying 50/50, sure, but then I'm doing the vast majority of the housework, while we squabble over what constitutes 50/50 in that domain... No thanks... Give me the full male role, or if that isn't to your liking; give me the full female role, and I will make sure that it gets done by hiring housecleaners, and babysitters, while you pay t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:57 AM
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Life without a partner becomes very boring for women* Men often cope with being single by working more hours or having more hobbies. Single people may become workaholics or need psychiatric drugs because they feel unfulfilled without a partner. Most of the people on psychotropic drugs are women, and what is so bad about enjoying your work/hobbies? Are men not happy and fulfilled unless we sit around with our thumb up our butts for several hours a day? In what world can you compare having a hobby…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:19 AM
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Do you say the same stuff to black Africans since white people developed western civilization I thought you said "end of discussion"? I'm not saying that women didn't have it rough but the fact that you would compare what women went through to ACTUAL slavery when slaves never had anything even remotely similar to "benevolent sexism" on their side, when white women were known for lying and getting black men killed; is very telling, but the answer is "no" for two reasons; 1). African Americans are…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:11 PM
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You decide who you wanna be with. Just stop being an arse about it. Don't wanna date someone? Don't. Yeah, works great, until we are coerced into signing birth certificates, by doctors and nurses, without actually knowing the law, under duress, during a time where there is a lot of panic and anxiety... or until we get told that we "adopted a fatherly role" just because we did a woman a favor. Don't worry though; men are done... We are learning the law, and looking out for ourselves, and nobody i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:21 PM
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What is funny is that when you tell people, especially kids, that they aren't allowed to do something; what is the first thing that they typically do? It's called the Streisand Effect and there is no more effective way to communicate a message to an audience. How long do you think it'll be until every edgy teenager in the UK becomes a miniature Andrew Tate? Lol The only thing that slightly concerns me is that most people understand the Streisand Effect, so why are they trying to censor Tate unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:03 PM
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not for her to yell at men and threaten to take away their basic human rights until they change their mind. Your rights end where my wallet begins... Men don't owe you ANYTHING... We are DONE being expected to raise other men's babies and losing half of everything we own to divorce rape. We are DONE with women raping our underage sons and then taking them for "child support". We are DONE being told to keep our legs closed when women have had access to 40+ forms of birth control compared to our 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:09 PM
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In Columbia they might take your wallet, but in America; they will take your house, your kids, and half of everything that you own, while continuing to rob you every month for the next 1 to 18 years... I'll take my chances in Columbia...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:24 PM
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They aren't raping incels or even most normies. Plus, anecdotal evidence doesn't trump statistical data.
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 12:02 PM
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I agree that this is what a man SHOULD do but I don't agree that this is why the friendzone exists. At least not the ONLY reason... As a man who refuses to orbit, I can tell you first hand that making it clear that I have no intention of remaining friends after a rejection; ends in vitriol and hate the vast majority of the time no matter how politely it is worded. If they can't carrot you into orbiting; that's when they whip out the stick. Unless you are willing to outright lie and feed her some…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:31 AM
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Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! And if you didn't enjoy the sex; then why did you keep going back for seconds and expecting more without communicating that? If you give up your body and expect something in return; that makes you a prostitute, if you fail to clearly communicate what you want in return for your "gift" before you give it; that makes you a narcissist
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/23 09:48 AM
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Oh no! Facts! Quick everyone block him before he shatters women's solipsistic self delusion! Lol EDIT: Actually; the mods locked the whole damn thread because she couldn't handle real adivce... Lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/23 09:37 AM
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63% of young men are single. that’s different. according to pew only half of the 63% are not looking for anything. it’s in the same study. Fair enough so 1/3 of young men are not looking to date, and honestly it probably isn’t their decision to make. Whether it's their decision to make or not; is besides the point. Men who are not looking to date are men who are not looking to simp. It's the lack of simps that is causing women to get more aggressive towards orbiters, not the lack of dates. Plus,…
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 08:51 AM
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A couple, my circle is fairly small. I have a small following on social media, but I would say that I have less than 5 friends. I try to spend most of my time working out, studying, or doing some kind of software development. Currently I have 2-3 male friends and 1 female friend.
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 03:03 AM
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I haven't noticed because I don't associate with women period unless they show sexual interest in me and I'm getting more and more picky on that front even. That being said; 63% of men are refusing to date It makes sense that this would make them more aggressive in terms of trying to seek out and control orbiters. They've got beta simps pulling double and triple shifts to pick up the slack from men going their own way. We're going to have to completely cut contact or, instead of admitting that t…
/r/AllPillDebate01/05/23 02:41 AM
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Because all men are evil lying predators and all women are good completely truthful victim angels. Why else?
/r/MensRights29/04/23 08:09 AM
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If you mean a good conversation; shoot me a link too if possible...
/r/MensRights29/04/23 07:26 AM
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All of MRA was pushed. Look at the MLM. Pro-feminism, pro-gender equality, just wanted equal access to post-conception reproductive rights in the form of paper abortions, no... Now the MLM is gone and the MRA has taken it's place. We offered them peace, they did want it, now they can prepare for the consequences of declaring war on men.
/r/MensRights29/04/23 05:08 AM
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I will be leaving all toilet seats up from now on in support of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights29/04/23 04:45 AM
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If you're going to travel; I would suggest going overseas. You're not going to pay THAT much more for the ticket and you are going to save lots of money on the prostitutes themselves. If your goal is just a one and done; it's not worth it to travel overseas, but if you are going to be doing a lot of sampling, over say a 1-2 months timeframe; you're going to save money in the long run by going somewhere like Asia.
/r/AllPillDebate29/04/23 04:31 AM
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Attractive women may have higher standards, but they also have more opportunity from high value men. I think your lowest body count is probably going to be an average woman. That being said; I have noticed that it's the fat women who typically have the HIGHEST body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 04:27 AM
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The majority of work places were hostile to women in the past. They have balanced out and now. You call HR managers who openly support #MeToo "balanced"? If you had someone at HR who openly took a stance of "believe all men"; how long do you think it would take them to get fired from most jobs? the older men who has been around for decades and has seen how things used to be. Not a single complaint. Why is that? Because they are a frog in boiling water who have accepted their fate. Younger genera…
/r/MensRights29/04/23 04:17 AM
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I think that most bi guys do probably lean towards being more attracted to women, but I am talking about one who is on true center of the bisexual spectrum who is equally sexually attracted to both men and women.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 08:00 PM
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Ok, yeah, I can respect that definition. I still think that even in that scenario, a bisexual man who is equally attracted to men and women is going to be better off exclusively dating men and avoiding women just because of the WAW Effect. As he has to worry about shit like false allegations or her doing fucked up shit because she knows that she can get away with it scot-free.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 06:11 PM
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What do you mean by"mentally strong enough to both understand and be able to deal with their nature" because I find that a lot of guys who adopt this mentality of "being strong" in terms of "dealing with a woman" mean bending over, spreading their cheeks, and shouting "I'm a man! I'm a real man!" If you mean kicking her to the curb for disrespecting daddy; then sure, maybe for some guys, probably not for a true center bisexual guy though, and it doesn't mean they can't still be a headache, set y…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 04:58 PM
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The problem is it is illegal where I am. Go bar hopping, casually start a conversation with the guys there, then eventually tell them about your problems with women, probably leave out the bisexual part, if they seem sympathetic you just say "Yeah, I wish there was somewhere around here where you could hire a hooker...", if they go quiet you might consider throwing in something like; "you guys wouldn't happen to know anywhere like that around here would you?" somebody will eventually give you th…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 04:44 PM
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I think that you need to seriously consider escortmaxxing man. Just get the bag and hire a bunch of hookers. That way you don't have to be jealous of anyone.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 04:00 PM
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If you're truly bisexual, and by "truly bisexual" I mean that you are true center on the bisexual spectrum; you will see women and men as equality hot, so, in THAT scenario; why wouldn't you just pick men 100% of the time and avoid women at all costs?
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 03:57 PM
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Also, I find women to be waaaay more attractive than men. That could be the reason you're bi instead of effectively gay. My comment was more about people who fall closer to true center on the bisexual spectrum. Men don't make me horny, but gay sex does. Also, I have never had sex with a man Are you sure that you're even bi? Sometimes people can be into gay porn and still be straight oddly enough. Given what you've told me, if I were in your shoes; I think that I would probably consider myself to…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 03:48 PM
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Didn't you read the article on here about men under 30 abandoning women's "rights"? Obviously; it's unemployment that is the issue... /s
/r/MensRights28/04/23 03:22 PM
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Correlation does not equal causation. Is it REALLY because younger generations are upset at women for taking their jobs, or are they upset at the unfair treatment of men, especially in the workplace, and choosing not to enter the workforce? Are women taking men's jobs, or are feminists turning workplaces into hostile work environments for men while simultaneously giving us less incentive to start and support a family? They're never going to accept responsibility... They are setting themselves on…
/r/MensRights28/04/23 02:19 PM
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You might not catch them on the n-count, but you will eventually catch them. Random things that they tell you will just not add up. The type of person to lie about n-counts, isn't JUST going to be lying about n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 11:46 AM
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Honestly, I think that if an attractive woman over the age of 20 tells you that she has a body count under 10; you're going to be right the vast majority of the time if you assume that she is lying. It sucks, but "Welcome to 2023, where everything's made up, and the n-counts don't matter."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 11:40 AM
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The standard rule is by the 3rd date, but I tend to find that if we aren't having sex by the end of the 1st date; she isn't that interested and waiting an extra 2 dates typically doesn't change anything. I think that there is a decent argument to be made for giving it 2 dates, sometimes I guess they just aren't hygienically prepared or something on the first date, but I don't find that the 3rd date has ever paid off for me, maybe some guys have more success on that front, I'm just speaking from …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 10:25 AM
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Holy crap... This place is basically an incel/MGTOW meme sub + gay... Lol I didn't really expect that considering how left leaning they are... I guess it just goes to show how much MRAs and the Man-o-Sphere have failed our gay brothers unfortunately...
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 09:40 AM
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Yep, this one... You can't pick your sexual orientation, but if you were born bisexual; that does give you some flexibility. Honestly, as a straight man; I can't see why ANY truly bisexual man wouldn't just always exclusively date other men... Even if they had a slight bias towards women; I could still see a lot of dudes just giving up the ghost in terms of dealing with women's headaches. I think the ONLY thing that keeps heterosexual men dating women is their monopoly on our sexual attraction a…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 09:14 AM
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That's not how attraction works... If you aren't both ripping your clothes off and making out on the table; the other person feels luke-warm about you AT BEST, and you can take that to the bank... Getting into a relationship where the other person feels luke-warm about you is NEVER a good idea. You are inviting betatization by a thousand concessions... The only reason why sexless courtships were a thing is because of the church. Your entire family could abandon you for having premarital sex. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 04:37 AM
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Well, I'm 6ft, I don't really feel like that makes me better or worse than anyone else. I do accept and acknowledge the fact that it makes me more attractive to women, and it is probably the only thing that affords me the luxury of being a normie MGTOW volcel instead of an incel. At the same time; I don't really feel that I DESERVE anything just because of my height.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 02:58 AM
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I think it's more Black Pill + a pretentious and hyperinflated spiritual ego.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 02:41 AM
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White Pill, Buddhism, Daoism, Stocism, is ALL about just giving up and accepting your situation in life. White Pill isn't trying to fix your problems, it's trying to make you more accepting of them and to not add additional heartache to an already hopeless situation. Like the Buddhist saying goes "Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. During enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water." Or the quote "Enlightenment is like every day normal consciousn…
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 12:25 AM
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It's all muh soggy knees, anything short of licking a woman's asshole is muh soggy knees.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 12:15 AM
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Sure, but you don't have to learn about those concepts from incels on an egotrip trying to appear smarter than they actually are. I would highly recommend that anyone looking to have a better and more fulfilling life look into Buddhism/Daoism/Stocism and if you have problems with sexual dynamics; then apply those teachings to sexual dynamics, but White Pill is a bit of an ego trap. Change the color of your reddit flair and suddenly; you've got it all figured out and have ascended above all the o…
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:55 PM
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I don't disagree with the White Pill in principle, I just think that it's a little pretentious when you consider that all it's doing is basically repackaging eastern philosophy and calling it a new pill.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:39 PM
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Aaah, I think I'm starting to get the picture now... So they dated for 12 years before they got married... That tells me that broski never had any intention of marrying her but somehow she got her claws in him, then 5 years later they get divorced. My diagnosis is; she was a quick fuck turned codependent. Nobody vets someone for 12 years.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:35 PM
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As an Omnist Buddhist; I can agree, Buddhism and Daoism can both be very powerful tools for radical self transformation, but I also think that the White Pill comes off as a little pretentious. It's just repackaging eastern philosophy/optimistic nihilism/self help and then trying to pass it off as a new pill. There is no reason why you can't be a Black Pilled Buddhist and/or Daoist. I also recommend people look into Stocism as well.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:22 PM
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1). I'm not convinced that we won't ever understand consciousness. Until now, we have only mapped the brain in large chunks. Once we are able to study the whole thing, neuron by neuron; I'm sure it will make a lot more sense. 2). Why can't we achieve consciousness without understanding it? Does a mechanic NEED to understand combustion in order to build an engine? Keep in mind; we are not inventing anything new here, we are just copy/pasting an existing design. I would say that is more than doabl…
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:09 PM
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There are tiers to MGTOW Monk Mode is a complete disconnect from women and society, off grid grow your own food type of thing. The level below that is no interaction with women The next tier is casual sex/dating but no marriage and no cohabitation. MGTOW really means a lot of different things to a lot of different people, but the general consensus between all MGTOW is; "no marriage, no cohabitation."
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:22 AM
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I couldn't tell you much about those studies because I'm not really sure which ones you are talking about. I will say that the incel side of the Black Pill tends to go a little wild with some of their ideas about women. That's part of why I prefer the MGTOW side of the Black Pill.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:14 AM
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They aren't necessarily meant to be appealing. They are meant to explain the world around us. The fact that the universe will burn out and suffer a cold death one day isn't appealing, but it's what the physics equations tell us.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:10 AM
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Not really. Red Pill isn't nihilistic. Red Pill: "You're fucked now, but you can get unfucked with a LOT of personal development work." Black Pill: "You're fucked and you can never be unfucked." White Pill: "You're fucked, you can never be unfucked, and that's ok because suffering is unavoidable in life and having what you want wouldn't change your suffering anyway."
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:05 AM
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Fundamentally; it's no different than Black Pill It's effectively people who accept the Black Pill as reality but choose to not take it personally and be optimistic about society and life anyway in the face of that. It's essentially the Optimistic Nihilism of the Black Pill. I can't say that I disagree with it in principle, it's just that it's always struck me as a little airy fairy and self-righteous at times.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 10:52 AM
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What do you mean by "approach"? If she is calling him "attractive" he's already approached and judging by her vocal tonality; he can tell if she really means it. Is it a deep and almost rumbling "you're attractive" or is it a high pitched and patronizing "Oh... Of course you're attractive, momma's sweet little man..."?
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 09:51 AM
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I have too, when I was a teenager, but unless a guy is on the spectrum, which is always possible; he's going to know what's up after an n-count of 5+ Don't mistake this for me saying that we are mind readers, but we can tell when our nonverbal advances are not reciprocated. If we move closer, and she pulls away; we can feel that.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 08:49 AM
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I mean, most guys that I know, with the exception of a few of the guys under 20; can read IOIs. Plus, it's pretty obvious when you are just casually talking and then you're suddenly less than 2 inches away from her face... If she's not interested; that is never going to happen unless her back is up against a wall.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 08:45 AM
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The men that women typically give signs to can read them just fine, they just ignore them. Unless we are talking about teenage boys, then you might have to try a little harder, but not much. Most men over the age of 30 are going to be able to read at least a few IOIs and know how to escalate. To be honest; even teenage boys have an instinct for it, they just also tend to jump the gun with the wrong women and then be afraid of being wrong with the right women.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 08:32 AM
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A man can tell when a woman is interested. Men and women have a language that we speak when we are both interested. We move a little closer, we speak a little softer, things slowly escalate, and then bam you're making out and taking each other's clothes off. There is no point in trying to initiate something that isn't being reciprocated nonverbally first.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 08:17 AM
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Their marriage lasted about 5 years, that is short as far as marriages go. I don't know where you got 17 from...
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 06:28 AM
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Yeah, that's why you gotta go dutch and ghost after the 3rd date unless you get laid. It's not personal, it's just time and resource management. Plus if she's going to fuck you; little shit like that is not going to break the deal. If she is going to fuck you, as long as she thinks that she has a chance; about the only thing that can chase her off is if you tell her you have HIV from being a bisexual bottom, and sometimes even that won't do it... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 04:54 AM
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Yeah, I remember that, shocked the hell out of me to be honest... However, she has taken relatively good care of herself, she was his childhood celebrity crush, and it didn't last very long either. I can think of a couple options that don't make the conventional cut who I still wouldn't mind checking into anyway if I woke up as a Chad tomorrow. I do think that the exception proves the rule though.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 04:34 AM
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Most men might fuck* anything but men with options won't commit to just anything... Now, the wall isn't a hard stop, there are things that women can do to hold back the wall, like Cher or Halle Berry, but I don't think anyone would say that Jennifer Coolidge stands a chance at getting a ring from a guy like Jason Momoa or Henry Cavill.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 04:16 AM
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For the same reason that men become fathers/husbands. Social validation and mommy cred. Friends and family love and respect mothers more than they do childless women. A single, childless, post-wall, woman is about as close as a woman can ever get to being an incel in society's eyes.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 04:03 AM
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I think that 99% is being generous. I don't even think GigaChads pull as many women as a 2/10 morbidly obese woman pulls men. They'll say "but we don't even want our sexual attention..." That's really easy to say when you're drowning in sexual offers... Most guys probably wouldn't give two shits about sex either if we had the same sexual access as a landwhale.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 03:50 AM
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Not when you consider psychological egoism. Once you realize that everyone's opinions of you are only there to serve their own self interests, and that nobody ACTUALLY cares about anyone else; you can stop giving a single, solitary, fuck about their opinions. But you REALLY have to internalize it, you have to understand that psychological egoism applies to me, to you, to your parents, to your siblings, to literally every single person in your life; then you can be free from any need for their ap…
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 02:50 AM
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See my recent post on AI, then quit the shame game (mentioned in my AI post), hire a prostitute, and go MGTOW...
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 02:37 AM
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Like I said; not debating this with you... That is a very tempting strawman though...
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 01:27 AM
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You want to talk about insulting? You just called men dramatic, Passport Bros "predators", adult women children, and then tried to justify Divorce Raping a man for money that isn't yours and that you have no rights to. Men are not your personal ATMs... We don't owe you anything. You can consider this conversation over. I'm not debating my rights as a human being with you.
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 01:18 AM
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Have you considered that we don't go to western countries like Iceland and New Zealand because they are oppressive towards men and that WOMEN are the predators who take advantage of the men in those countries? Would you have us go to France where paternity testing is illegal to avoid being called names by entitled feminists? Have you considered that maybe women leaving 80*% of the time is a result of male oppression in the form of divorce rape and that Passport Bros are, in fact; western refugee…
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 12:57 AM
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Do you REALLY think that men would have a problem with it if they were? How many 20 year old simps would do ANYTHING to be a strong mommy's house husband? Nothing is stopping you from grabbing one and I guarantee you that 99.99% of men are going to fist-bump little bro-ski if you do... The only reason why some women have a problem with Passport Bros is because most of them are hyper-aggressive, old lady, career woman boss babe, single mothers, who just can't compete with the type of woman that m…
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 12:20 AM
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They mistake simps, ignoring their behavior to try to get sexual access; for us not noticing it. Guys play dumb, deaf, and blind to try to get a little strange and they think that they've pulled one over on all men... Lol To be fair though; a lot of simps do eventually end up drinking their own Kool-Aid...
/r/MensRights27/04/23 12:01 AM
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Prostitution has failed and that is a real, biological, woman with some (but admittedly very low) probability of producing genetic offspring. Porn is basically a strip tease on demand, and it is heavily stigmatized, and even illegal in some countries. I don't think it's that far fetched to assume that feminism and the church are probably both going to have something to say about a technology that threatens simping, sex work, and the nuclear family.
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 11:03 PM
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Sure, I'm not going to say that nobody will ever touch a robot woman, but it's hardly going to be the savior that men think it will if the majority of men refuse to use it because it's either illegal, heavily stigmatized, or both. I suppose it really just comes down to whether or not you believe that people are meaningfully different now than we were in Ancient Greece.
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 10:57 PM
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You now come Up with all kind of possibilities that could happen to prevent that.... What if X happens? What if Y happens? What if asteroid hits earth preventing us to have sex with robots? Lmao i get It. Can we now go back to todays reality please ? Looking at historical patterns that have repeated themselves time and time again is hardly equivalent to an asteroid hitting earth. If an asteroid strikes once, that is a coincidence, if it keeps hitting the same place over and over again, with the …
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 10:14 PM
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I think that you are misunderstanding what I am saying. I'm not saying that one person is going to wreck utopia. What I'm saying is that homosexuality was, more or less, accepted in Ancient Greece and Rome, then Christianity came to power and shut it down for hundreds/thousands of years. There is no reason why that couldn't happen again. We are no different than we were back then, we've just taken off our togas, put on suits, and called ourselves "civilized". Look at pictures of 1960s Afghanista…
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 09:12 PM
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This is possible, but I don't think that the fight for LGBTQ+ rights is necessarily over. There have been times in history where homosexuality was more accepted and then those times went away. Even if what you are saying is true (which it definitely could be), the men of our generation are still going to have to give up the shame game or wait until we are in our 80s, and all of our friends and family are dead; to have a serious virtual waifu and be accepted by society. I have the feeling that pe…
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 08:51 PM
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It cannot "genuinely" care about your well-being. Why not? How are digital neurons firing, in a process that is virtually identical to physical neurons firing; different in any meaningful way? If you simulate an entire brain, on an atomic level, in a hyper realistic simulation; don't you have something that is capable of genuine care? It is programmed to act like it does That's actually part of the beauty of machine learning and concepts like unsupervised learning. They are completely different …
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 08:39 PM
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I guess he will just have to wipe his tears with his big wads of cash after taking that L.
/r/MensRights26/04/23 07:47 PM
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Power imbalance has to be in my favor. 100% It's just not worth it otherwise no matter what other qualities she has... If she is going to undervalue me and make me fight for sex; then she can be replaced with a hooker. At least most hookers are going to treat me like I'm worth a couple hundred bucks to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:34 PM
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I think that most people with an interest in TRP know about the 9 Iron Rules of Rollo Tomassi. If not; there is always Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:26 PM
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Absolutely, why wouldn't I? Ideally; I don't want women who aren't attractive and submissive and/or interested in me within a 50 mile radius of my person, we can't always get what we want, but trying to have a conversation is, needless to say; 100% out of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:23 PM
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If someone gets to know that you're a virgin at 28yo, they will already think you're both pathetic and weird. You don't believe that people won't think that you are even MORE pathetic and weird for being a 28 year old virgin AND having a robot girlfriend? AI companies will be able to end the inceldom problem. The problem with the shame game is that part of it exists to ensure the propagation of the species. Women get slut shamed because women who aren't selective died in childbirth. Men get sham…
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 07:14 PM
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If you're going to play games with us just because you don't think that we will leave; that disqualifies you as a potential wife. What other manipulative games are you going to be playing on us down the road? No thank you. I'm not about to bust my ass for something that other guys, who you respect and value more than me; get for free. You can go marry them... That's why more and more guys are adopting Rollo Tomassi's Iron Rule #3 and have been for a very long time. Some of you ladies don't under…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:27 AM
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The fact that Elon Musk is their definition of a "manchild" should tell you everything that you need to know... "Don't date this super rich and successful manchild ladies! (Save him for us instead.)"
/r/MensRights26/04/23 09:03 AM
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That's pretty much what I am getting at as well. It's the shame game. An AI woman might genuinely care about your well-being but she can't stop your parents from being disappointed in you or your friends from thinking you're weird and pathetic for having a virtual waifu that you take so seriously that it has replaced the need for human companionship. The only way to break free is to learn to not give a fuck about what other people think.
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 08:53 AM
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Access to a man's time, energy, and resources is a privilege that we reserve the right to withdraw from anyone, at any time, and for any reason. Our time, energy, and resources belong. to. us. We get to pick favorites, give out free trials, and suspend those free trials as we see fit, because it all belongs to us, we don't owe anyone anything. Men are not walking ATMs, we are people with emotions, feelings, wants, needs, and desires. Once you make it clear to us that you cannot offer what we wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:14 AM

Going to post this here because the post was deleted and I'm not sure where it would be appropriate to post this not having read the entire OP. I think I can get enough of it from the comments to see what is going on though. I'm just going to point out that; these are the type of guys who are agreeing with a lot of you ladies... I know that you don't believe us when we tell you that, but here is the proof... Now imagine a guy who is better at math pulling this; and you have most blue pilled men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:05 AM
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100% The second a man with self-respect gets rejected; the free trial has expired, buy a subscription, or move on... Leave the orbiting to the orbiters...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:48 AM
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I get what you are saying, but don't men already have access to all of those options with the exception of sex AI? or show that you matter. I think that THIS is the crux of the issue right here. We ALL want people to love and respect us. Not just one person, our friends and family treat us differently when we are in a relationship vs not in one as well. What I am saying is to stop allowing people's opinions of you to matter. I've seen you around before and so I assume that you know I am not advo…
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 05:32 AM
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I'll probably buy it for the same reasons I have a home bar; because sex just feels good, but it's not something that I feel like I NEED to be happy. I will be fine with or without sex AI. In fact; I'd probably give up sex before alcohol. Sex has never made me unironically get up and start singing and dancing, a 5th of whiskey on the other hand... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 04:57 AM
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So the picture im trying to paint for many guys my age is we are not able to move overseas because of the drastic change in lifestyle and lack of comfort that we would be used to having in the US. This is basically the same argument that women have when we tell them to lower their standards if they want to find a man. It's not that you don't have options, it's that you don't want those options bad enough to make the sacrifices that you would have to make in order to exercise them and there is no…
/r/MensRights26/04/23 03:15 AM
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it's important to remember that most does not mean all. I think that very few men would say that "all women are like that" that is why NAWALT exists as an acronym. That being said, I like the way Joker from Better Bachelor puts it; Not all lions are going to eat you, but it only takes one to cut your safai short. At a certain point, as things continue to deteriorate further and further, you have to ask yourself; is it really even worth it anymore? The answer is increasingly becoming "no" for mor…
/r/MensRights26/04/23 02:35 AM
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At the point where she looks down and notices his muscles... It's not that most women prefer assholes (although some certainly do) it's that they would rather be abused by an asshole than to let her friends catch her dating an average man... This is 100% their prerogative but I would also suggest that it is men's prerogative not to forget that this was the case when our sexual market value is peaking in our mid 30s and 40s...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:01 AM
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feminism used to be something that was good and fighting for EQUAL rights Even 1st wave feminism excluded African American women from participating. their favorite is "pick me girl" You should wear the term "pick-me" as a badge of honor. It is low-key admitting that they can't compete unless you handicap yourself. All wives are found... You will have an amazing relationship with a good man while they are busy cleaning litter boxes... that doesn't really make sense and can be reasonably argued th…
/r/MensRights26/04/23 01:19 AM
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Simp shaming is protecting men from themselves. Shaming traditional women is about maintaining their own lifestyle until they have to start shaming men for dating younger women.
/r/MensRights26/04/23 01:06 AM
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You should wear the term "pick me" like a badge of honor. The women using it are telling on themselves. They are literally admitting that they can't compete with you in the sexual marketplace unless you handicap yourself and that is supposed to be an insult for some reason. Feminists use "pick-me" for the same reasons that low-value males use the terms "meathead" or "neanderthal". Don't let the opinion of a "cat-me" bother you. At the end of the day; you're going to have an amazing relationship …
/r/MensRights26/04/23 12:47 AM
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It's almost like most religious and political groups are just socially acceptable cults... Nah... That can't be right... Why would people with power want to consolidate their power with propaganda?
/r/MensRights26/04/23 12:41 AM
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If you're Chad you can do it right here in the states though... If she even had the balls to try to wear something like that in public while dating you to begin with... It's not about the "toxic" behavior... It's about how much she values the contributions of the person telling her to change her clothes... If she values you; she will say "ok daddy" and then go change. If she doesn't value you; she will be offended. She will say it's because the behavior is toxic only because the phrase "Who are …
/r/AllPillDebate26/04/23 12:15 AM
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Oh hun, you think that you get to have a decent hardworking man after you retire from OF? No... It doesn't work that way... Lol Women just cannot fathom that we don't care about money, not only do we not care about money, but men are getting to a point that we actively AVOID women with money because of shit like this... If she has money there is a high probability that she is either: a sex worker a divorce baby an independent career woman boss babe who "don't need no man". Just not worth the ris…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/23 08:19 PM
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No... It's not... It's about the latest a woman can reasonably expect to pull something off in terms of having a family. At 28 you are basically done... That whole "30 is the new 20" shit is BS feminist propaganda that completely ignores medical science. 30 is high risk, 40 is menopause. At 25 you've basically got 5 years to have ALL of your kids, that means that you're going to have to find time between changing diapers, when you're not completely exhausted; to try for another and then you have…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/04/23 08:06 PM
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No obstacles to it, men don't really care about money like women do. The girls working minimum wage are probably going to be getting the most attention from men because they are usually still under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:21 AM
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I think that as feminism becomes a more accepted part of the educational system; people are identifying feminism with "the establishment" more and more. I'm not going to say that it isn't still trying to be a counterculture movement but a lot of people can see through it. Feminism fits this meme more and more every day:
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 03:39 AM
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I think it's going to be pretty hard to shame MGTOW and Passport Bros... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 02:55 AM
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I think that women like that have learned from childhood that they can get what they want from men and boys by using a carrot and stick strategy. Won't take the carrot; you get the stick. It is very easy to manipulate men like that in a world where boys are taught not to hit back and the ratio of males:females in prison is 93:7 due to the WAW Effect. Especially if you are conventionally attractive and not above lying. She probably came between you guys because married men are more challenging an…
/r/MensRights24/04/23 11:56 PM
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It made me wonder why he was even friends with her. Well, there are a few possible explanations, considering that your husband seems like a decent guy, the most likely answer is that; deep down, on a subconscious level that even he is probably barely aware of; he might have been afraid of the consequences of telling her "no". Doing so, especially without another woman to vouch for him; can cause a man a lot of problems in today's society. False allegations, losing your job, having your property …
/r/MensRights24/04/23 11:26 PM
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being a single mother is rarely a deliberate choice Probably less rare than it's portrayed... Even if it's not a deliberate choice; it's certainly not as well thought out as it could be. Remove mandatory child support and bring back socially enforced monogamy; you will see how well they can properly vet a man... We would be going back to the virgin brides and chaperoned courtshiping days if that happened...
/r/MensRights24/04/23 11:14 PM
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What do you want to bet that if by some unholy miracle, she did manage to steal your husband; within 3 months she would be having a "girls night" where she is off fucking some other dude while he stayed at home and babysat her son... Lol Glad he was able to see through her bullshit.
/r/MensRights24/04/23 11:06 PM
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I just described most radfems unfortunately... I can believe that she has been abused, but I also believe that women like that will often pick men, to have babies with, without properly vetting them, or who they know will abuse them. That being said; I also know that they aren't above lying either so who actually knows... Using this strategy they can get that strong, independent, single mommy cred from her friends and family, brainwash their children with whatever propaganda that they want, mayb…
/r/MensRights24/04/23 10:36 PM
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For a lot of issues yes, but you will also find that some issues share a border between mainstream ideas and red/black pill ideas. For those ideas; it is possible to articulate them in a way that certain mainstream groups will be willing to embrace. That is how red/black pill has gained the foothold that it has. Imagine trying to come out with some of this stuff in the 70s, 80s, or early 00s. You have to slowly ease people into it until they can see the full picture.
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 10:06 PM
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their grooming behaviours Yeah, this is definitely the most concerning part. I believe that until we crack down HARD on single mothers; our society is just going to get worse and worse... We blame the guns for mass shootings but completely ignore the crime statistics around children raised by single mothers as well as the fact that other countries have guns and they don't have mass shootings... I guarantee you that if you start looking into the backgrounds of mass shooters; you will find that mo…
/r/MensRights24/04/23 09:41 PM
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This is also a very good point. I do believe that red pill was born out of PUA but you couldn't even find this shit back in the early 2000s, much less the 90s...
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 09:33 PM
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You would be surprised... In my early, blue pilled, days I knew that life was shit, but I just assumed that it was shit for women too. Especially when everytime I tried to question it; I had seemingly sensible feminist talking points thrown at me that I was too young and nieve to refute. I supported my own enslavement for a good 25 years.
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 09:28 PM
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Are most women making enough to support themselves, and especially their extravagant lifestyles, on the income that they are bringing in though? Probably not, especially when you consider that a lot of them are paying off overpriced student loans while working minimum wage jobs because everyone and their mother has a college degree these days... and let's not pretend that even a fraction of them are prepared to switch to an industry like welding in order to make ends meet... My grandmother was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:11 PM
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I would say that this is absolutely a part of it too. Sometimes you can be completely blind to something, have it pointed out, deny it's existence in the moment, and then suddenly start seeing it everywhere. It has happened to me multiple times in my life.
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 11:53 AM
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I'm not going to say that this doesn't happen, because it definitely does, but I also believe it is the case that many times they will learn to better articulate their ideas to a mainstream audience as well as which ideas people might be willing to accept and which ideas people need more time for. For the ones who can't navigate the mainstream waters; there are still certain dark corners of the internet but they aren't nearly as popular as the spaces that used to exist on mainstream platforms.
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 10:39 AM
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Check out Page 7 of this study. Here is the article where I pulled the pdf file from.
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 10:02 AM
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I would say that, first of all; you probably shouldn't be trying to be friends with men. At least not with single men. Things have deteriorated to a point that the type of single men that are willing to be just friends with women, especially in 2023; are often going to be desperate or broken in some way, plus; it's not really a good look for a future husband, that you respect enough to be exclusive to; if you have a bunch of single male friends. There is trusting, and then there is being gullibl…
/r/MensRights24/04/23 08:17 AM
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Considering that you are writing this post; there probably isn't much more that you can do as all the things that we want from a woman are pretty obvious. Cook, clean, stay fit, get naked. We aren't hard to please. There might be a few things that you could be doing that you could avoid doing but I don't know you or your relationship so I can't really say what those things would be. The fact that you are even asking the question is a good sign that you are at least on the right track though.
/r/MensRights24/04/23 06:07 AM
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1). We live in a global sexual marketplace... Slavic and East Asian millionaires/billionaires come over here and "steal" our women. We just have more opportunity on average. Saying that Passport Bros are "stealing" women is the same argument that feminist use when they say that foreign women are "stealing" their men. You can't own people... 2). If men bring foreign women back to the west; we lose them, if we actually want to make Passport Bro'ing work; we have to move to a Slavic/East Asian Coun…
/r/AllPillDebate24/04/23 05:49 AM
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Men will be fine. 30%-40% of men have never passed on our genetic material. Men are built to be able to survive on our own. Women on the other hand; I'm not so sure about... The traditional wives will probably be fine but I'm sure that many feminists will expect Uncle Sam to come rob us and pick up the slack for them at some point. I've already heard rumblings in Europe for a child support tax on all men, including childless men...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:24 AM
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Woman don't want a man taller than them, they want a man taller than her friends man You hit the nail directly on the head with this one...
/r/MensRights24/04/23 04:08 AM
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Yep, the cognitive bias that they are engaging in is called "attribution bias" it's a common cognitive bias that most people will exhibit at some point in their lives however it is usually not socially acceptable to do so. The only time it gets overlooked is when a victim uses it against their aggressor. That should give you a bit of a clue how this thought process works. In the case of men vs women though; we are completely fair game for being victims of attribution bias with absolutely no soci…
/r/MensRights24/04/23 03:30 AM
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It's not even about finding A man to commit... It never was... ANY woman could find A man to commit... What she really means is that she cannot find a man THAT SHE WANTS to commit... They always leave out the most important parts that would undermine their whole damseling shtick if they said the quiet part out loud... All wives are found, without exception... That's why I have no problem telling a woman to enjoy her cats...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:41 PM
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The Guardian mistaking female damseling for men's attention as real news? No... Say it isn't so! How could such a trusted, respected, and reliable source of information be so careless as to post a low-key personal ad looking for Captain Save-A-Hoe to come and prove that all men aren't the same? Surely it must have just slipped past their editors... /s
/r/MensRights23/04/23 07:50 PM
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I am a man raised by a man-hating feminist mother and grandmother in the same house... No father, simp grandfather who isolated himself in his room to avoid my mother and grandmother... Been hit in the face with belt buckles at somewhere between 6 to 8 years old on multiple occasions. Got choked while my mom was on xanax. Seen my mom pull knives on my grandmother while on xanax. There was constant screaming and arguing. I went to juvy and almost cried tears of joy because it was so peaceful ther…
/r/MensRights23/04/23 09:14 AM
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Asking a man to uphold a standard men themselves held for thousands of years isnt ignoring his libido. This is dramatic. What "standard" do you think that men have upheld? It used to be common practice to take your teenage sons to brothels... It was almost a coming of age tradition... Women were expected to be chaste virgins... That same standard has NEVER applied to men... That is why the bride wears a white dress and a groom wears a black tuxedo... Historically; the colors were a symbol of her…
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 04:15 AM
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She sounds like a better mom than 80% of other mothers out there... And I can say this with some certainty because 80% of men turn out to be Betas. It's better to be raised by a homeless junky who cares about your future then a devouring mother who will have you drinking furniture polish in your 40s just to get away from her... I say that as someone who has experienced both a homeless, racist, junkie, mother and a devouring covert narcissist grandmother... However both of the women who raised me…
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 02:05 AM
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How is it a mother's responsibility to care about her son's wellbeing? Well, if you don't already know the answer to that; then I don't see much hope for you... This is exactly why I 100% believe that every beta male should disown their mother...
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 01:44 AM
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Gotta love S.I.G.N. Language... The last ditch effort of someone with no argument...
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 01:36 AM
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I'll agree that it's normal, but I won't agree that it's not narcissistic... Assuming that you didn't just crawl out from under a rock last week; you should know how important sex is to men... Having that knowledge and not thinking about your son's sexual future; is just straight up solipsism...
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 01:34 AM
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So you're admitting that most mothers are self-centered narcissists who are incapable of thinking about the well-being of anyone else including their own children... You'll get no argument from me there... Just surprised that someone else actually admitted it...
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 01:22 AM
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Women tell on themselves ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME. if you know how to listen...
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 01:18 AM
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You cannot just ignore a man's libido and hope that it will go away, which is exactly what you are talking about doing. There are 3 paths that your son can take; 1). Become a happy Alpha Chad Whore with 3 baby mommas living his best life. 2). Get betabuxx'd by an abusive gold digging witch because they are so desperate for any crumb of pussy that they ignore every red flag that you told them to avoid. This is likely the BEST case scenario for your son because option 3 is 3). End up on incel foru…
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 11:33 PM
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Because parents don't actually give a fuck about their sons... Just go look at the countless stories of families disowning their sons for not wanting to raise children that isn't theirs... A mother is more worried about her son being able to put her in a good retirement home one day than his well-being... The best way to ensure that is to turn him into a lonely betabuxx simp... And for God's sake never let him become an Alpha Male because then you lose all control, it's better to raise a loser w…
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 10:52 PM
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Move on then... I need some random bum's approval like a fish needs a bicycle...
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 09:21 PM
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Who is whining? I've made many posts on here telling guys to just focus on their money, hire prostitutes if they need pussy, and promoting the cultivation of a sociopathic mindset through the acceptance of psychological egoism. I'm not about whining... I'm about doing... Hit the gym, get the bag, tell bums to fuck off. That is the lifestyle I promote.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 09:13 PM
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im not sure why if you perpetuate ruthless logic you expect someone to have more sympathy on you if you don't also fit the bill of being the top apex predator in "the game". I don't... I learned the hard way that the world doesn't give a flying fuck about me or my expectations... It's the reason WHY I view relationships as transactional... Because if you don't; you WILL be taken advantage of by the same people telling you that relationships shouldn't be transactional. Sure people want things for…
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 06:47 PM
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Social Media, Simping, the 93:7 male:female prison population, and Daddy never saying the word "No" to his special little princess.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 05:38 AM
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Nobody owes a woman friendship. You are not entitled to men's time, energy, or resources
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 05:24 AM
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Excuse me for assuming that you had read The Rational Male or consumed virtually any other man-o-sphere content...
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 04:50 AM
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but it makes you miserable that this person wants nothing to do with you. Exactly, I REALLY don't understand this behavior, like; fuck em, fuck em all... And fuck anyone who doesn't like it... I would consider myself a "normie" and I STILL went MGTOW... I don't understand why incels are so hung up on people who hate them. Way to dish out punches to incels, chads and women alike in your response, dude. Well, not trying to dish out punches as much as I'm trying to wake people up. The only one who …
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 04:24 AM
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Alicia, who is believed to be from the US, has been with her husband Scott for 15 years and the couple have been happily married for five after meeting in High School. Yeah, if she gets him BEFORE his success; OF COURSE it's possible for a fat chick to bag a Chad... I'm not talking about couples hooking up in high school or college. Anyone can lock down a high value man if they get lucky in high school. I'm talking about the adult dating market.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 01:57 AM
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All women have that option, dude. All. No they don't, women can FUCK anyone that they want, they cannot MARRY anyone that they want. A fat ugly wildebeest doesn't have the option to trade in her simp to go MARRY a Chad, and go ride around in sports cars, and live in his mansion. She can get a ONS at best. A fat, ugly, wildebeest probably couldn't even get a FWB situation going with a Chad unless she had a REALLY awesome personality, although; I could admittedly be wrong on this last point.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 01:40 AM
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No, because they would still trade him in for a better model, they just don't have that option. That's not anti-hypergamy, that is maximizing your hypergamy and STILL not getting what you really want. Hypergamy isn't about out earning your husband, it's about getting the best husband that you can find. Masculine women stay in relationships with beta males for the same reason that beta males don't cheat; lack of options... The difference is that a masculine woman can still fuck and get impregnate…
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 01:10 AM
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Well, I don't recommend "getting neetbux and rotting" but I will say that is exactly why MGTOW is growing. Do your best to become as close to Chad-like as you possibly can, let your anger fuel and drive you to both, the gym, and the bag, then in your 30s and 40s, when they are finally looking to get off the cock carousel; you pump, and dump, and waste the time of, every, single, woman who is unfortunate enough to try and take advantage of you after giving their best years to Chad... Show them th…
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 12:13 AM
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Masculine women are ALSO stupidly hypergamic. The difference is that submissive women will just monkey branch to Chad while masculine women will get secretly knocked up by Chad and then make you take care of his kids. You're never going to escape hypergamy. Your only options are to become dominant, get taken advantage of, or opt-out entirely. There is no woman who is going to settle for a beta and be happy for the privilege.
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 10:15 PM
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1). Because it's about looks, money, and status, the "misogyny" that is attractive to women is just a byproduct of that which many women will subconsciously use in their mate selection process and 2). Because incels aren't "misogynistic" in the way that demonstates status/preselection and attracts women There are at least two types of "misogyny" but feminists never seem to make a distinction between the two. If you exhibit anything other than licking a woman's asshole; you are an "incel" accordi…
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 05:34 PM
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I don't understand why women think saying that they don't want the sexual attention that they have access to is supposed to make men feel better about not having it. All it does is just piss some men off even more, which may even be the intention honestly... Let's say that about 1/2 of the population only get a cup of water a day and that everyone in the group was desperate for water... Let's say that you are in the cup group. How would you feel about the guy sitting on an ocean of it, talking a…
/r/AllPillDebate20/04/23 02:02 PM
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That is worst case scenario. When you consider the size of the market as well as the inability to use services like AWS and probably even PayPal; I expect around a 5%-10% price increase as a result of having to use alternative services and pay a premium for being a controversial website. 15% would be the absolute maximum that I would expect. Also keep in mind that all of these numbers are just projections... If I could get the price lower than Amazon; I would absolutely do that in order to stay …
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 04:03 PM
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I mean, sure, but you'll also fragment the market if you try to get greedy with it. You'll make more money from people paying for ad space to boost their product sales if you have a virtual monopoly on black pill commerce. Which you won't get by gouging people. Not sure if there is a lot of interest in the idea though anyway... Might be a good idea for another community but I don't think Black Pill is interested.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 02:30 PM
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And your child is going to be up against odds like these, but who cares, you showed that paternity verifying bastard and stuck him with child support, right? 63% of youth suicides are from single mother households 80% of rapists with anger problems come from single mother households 71% of all high school dropouts come from single mother households 75% of all adolescents in chemical abuse centers come from single mother households 85% of youths in prison come from single mother households 71% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:26 PM
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And you would be a single mother... Here are a couple statistics for you about what is likely going to happen to your child together because you hate the idea of men protecting our own self interests: 63% of youth suicides are from single mother households 80% of rapists with anger problems come from single mother households 71% of all high school dropouts come from single mother households 75% of all adolescents in chemical abuse centers come from single mother households 85% of youths in priso…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 01:16 PM
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Fair enough, judging by the reactions to this post; I'm guessing there probably wouldn't be much point in building it anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 12:43 PM
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Being rich with ANY method is risky there are lots of shady people that will take advantage of ur money/investments no matter how you earn it. That being said; it's riskier to be poor. Rich guy gets sick, goes to the doctor, and gets better. Broke guy gets sick, stays home because he needs a loan to buy a car but doesn't have health insurance, and dies of a toe infection.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 12:30 PM
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Aaah, yes, calling people on the phone to let them know what you plan on doing. One of those "less violent methods" that the media loves to talk about... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 05:35 AM
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Men do it to other men, especially men that we care about, because we know what will happen to their lives if we don't. Men don't get to just coast through life on easy mode like women do. We have a burden of performance. If we allow each other to sit around and sulk in our feelings all the time; our lives will fall to pieces and the women will all go fuck Chad while we are relating to our third rope post on an incel forum this week. Women on the other hand get to just exist. She can go cry in p…
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:50 AM
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No, what I personally take from these statistics is that women want help, men know they won't get help and instead want to die. All I am pointing out is that "using less violent methods" doesn't flatter women either when you really consider what that would say about women...
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:41 AM
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That's my guess as well... I don't think women are stupid by any means. If they wanted to kill themselves; they would do it. I just think it's weird how people will paint women as bumbling idiots just to say; "look how much worse women have it!"
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:38 AM
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because it could possibly not work and cause a serious injury, or because they don’t have access to guns or anything like that. There are ways that are very reliable and easily accessible. I can't talk about them on reddit but 5 minutes on Google can teach you everything that you need to know.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:35 AM
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Yeah, that would be the "option 1" argument... Essentially you are saying that women are floundering bafoons who can't figure out how to tie a slipknot. I personally don't believe women are that incompetent.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:28 AM
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I see this argument a lot but nobody ever talks about the fact that women attempting more doesn't flatter women no matter how you slice it. Either; 1). They are too incompetent to figure out how to use Google to find more lethal methods or 2). They don't actually want to die, they just want attention.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 03:25 AM
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I am assuming that most of the sellers wouldn't be able to source their products at the same price as Amazon sellers, at least not initially. Distributors get deals by sourcing their products from manufacturers in bulk. I don't expect anyone to buy thousands of boxes of a product to sell to a market of like 10 people. It would be nice to get some overlap with FBA and Ebay sellers, but I can't guarantee that. I might also have to use more expensive services considering that it is a black pill web…
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 01:09 AM
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying... The post was about creating a platform to try to replicate black wallstreet's success within the black pill community.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 12:19 AM
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What words could I have chosen better? Are people not allowed to ever mention any ideas involving African Americans or point out their brilliance, drive, and ingenuity? It's has nothing to do with the words, it's the idea that they don't like. Everything after that is effectively just "REEEEEE".
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 09:11 PM
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Ok, sure, but not having the option to become Chad; would you rather be not Chad and rich, or not Chad and broke?
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 08:34 PM
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That's because what I'm talking about isn't cope. It's not something that I am particularly committed to or that I even plan on wasting any time on if there is no interest. I'm simply floating the idea and seeing if there is an opportunity here. If not; then I will abandon the idea as fast as it came to me. That being said; I believe it is an effective strategy to make sure that Black Pill interests are represented within the political arena that doesn't involve more mass shootings, but you guys…
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 07:24 PM
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You're welcome to try...
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 06:07 PM
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No, you're just a simp who can't be bothered to understand the difference between copying a group's methods and comparing your struggles to theirs.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 06:06 PM
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What tragic event? African Americans earning money is a tragic event? Nobody is talking about the massacre, we are talking about the brilliant means in which they were able to get ahead in spite of a system where they were being oppressed. Which I'm not comparing to incels either btw... I think everyone here would agree that slavery and Jim Crow are worse than what is happening to incels today.
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 06:03 PM
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Damn... Poor guy... I still don't agree with his decision. When you are a great guy who is doing everything that he can, and a group of people still reject you; it's not because you are worthless, it's because they are, and that's how you have to look at it. Fuck them all, live for yourself, give them nothing. Just sit there, make as much money as possible, and take up space in the financial market keeping Chad from moving in on the vacuum in the market that you will leave if you self-delete as …
/r/AllPillDebate18/04/23 05:18 PM
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Most women do background checks anyway without your knowledge or consent, and there is nothing wrong with the practice. Why would I have a problem with a woman doing the best that she can to ensure that our kids will grow up in a stable and healthy environment before she potentially commits her body and sexual market value to having a kid with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:36 PM
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And this is EXACTLY why you should never date or believe a single mother, especially when she talks about her baby daddy. This bullshit isn't the exception, it's the norm. 9 times out of 10; he did something innocent like spilling a milkshake on the floor and she left him saying that he was trying to push her over and make her slip and fall in it. I've seen it countless times. Just leave the single mothers alone gentlemen...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:30 PM
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No, I don't think it's reasonable at all. 1). Normalizing the practice isn't about her, it's about men being taken advantage of and showing those men that there are reasonable women out there, and that they don't have to settle for being a cash cow to woman who is prejudiced against men and will probability exhibit that prejudice towards any sons that you have together in the future. 2). People can be VERY good at lies and manipulation. An acknowledgement of that fact isn't an accusation. No, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:16 PM
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If that is your opinion; I would say that he dodged a bullet considering that 40% of all paternity tests turn out to not be a match and you don't think that's a problem for men. How many other issues that he and any potential sons that you might have together face; are you going to ignore and dismiss if he stays with you? Having a database of men's DNA has nothing to do with identifying rapists and everything to do with general surveillance and intelligence gathering. That is why the media pushe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:13 AM
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Yeah, I definitely support mandatory testing as well, but in the meantime; there have to be people willing to stand up and say "we want this". Let them run, it filters out the dumb and crazy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:27 AM
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1). It's not as much of a fringe movement as you might think, especially over the last few years; the man-o-sphere and the men's rights movement has exploded in popularity. 2). Somebody is always going to be on the bleeding edge of progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:18 AM
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How is insisting on a test to normalize paternity testing an insult to her? If she sees it as an insult (or claims to anyway); you dodged a bullet. Hard telling what else she is going to suddenly "see as an insult" 2-3 years into the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:03 AM
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Because a lot of people are parents of sons and seeing them in the same light would require admitting that they paid a stranger to rape their son with a knife.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 03:42 AM
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You're not accusing her of cheating, you're normalizing paternity testing to support men's rights. If she doesn't understand that then; kick her to the curb.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:53 AM
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If you're a Chad, sure, but if you don't have looks or status; what else can you offer besides money?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:42 AM
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If you can't afford a prostitute; then you can't afford a woman, between dates, gifts, holidays, electricity, water, groceries, etc..., etc...; you're going to be saving money. Especially if you only go 2-3 times a year which is more than you'll get from most marriages in the long run. If you aren't willing to risk going to jail; you don't need to be trying to get with a woman. A woman can ruin your life in so many ways, especially a vindictive one where matters of the heart are involved. Gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:51 AM
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If you accept the Red Pill, but don't think that the risk/effort is worth the reward; that is Black Pill.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 10:18 PM
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That's not the point, it's not that I was affected by it, actually I felt kinda good, it made me feel like my gains had been paying off, but I think that the fact that there aren't any healthy activities that are taboo to criticize; says something about the shame game.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 12:47 PM
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I would argue that the type of sex that is taboo to criticize is unhealthy. It's only taboo to criticize someone for having lots of casual sex. It's not taboo at all to criticize a wife for being sexually available to her husband.
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 12:43 PM
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There is a difference between seeing a video of a driver running someone over, and using personal experiences, as well as countless testimony from others; to make an informed decision. If I got run over multiple times, and I heard countless other people talking about getting run over; I might ACTUALLY stop crossing the road unless absolutely necessary... "Pick up women at the gym" is either 1). low-key telling them to hit the gym or 2). trying to get them banned from the gym and/or arrested. The…
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 12:25 PM
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But I'd say it's mostly about weight, isn't it? I think that could be the biggest one, yes. Reading books is shamed only among kids or at least I've encountered it only in this context. Well, I would say that it happens MOSTLY among kids, but my brother's dad and his new wife; has made fun of him for studying German. I've also met other adults who were very critical of any mentally stimulating behaviors or activities. Smoking or drinking are bad for you and you get shamed if you overindulge in i…
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 11:55 AM
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True, but we also have the term "body shaming" that goes along with the whole body positivity movement. Normal people might not get canceled but we do still get harassed and shit on for it way more than people get harassed and shit on for terms like "meathead". I caught a ban on FB a couple months back just for saying that I wouldn't go out of my way to sleep with a fat chick. I don't think I would have caught the same ban if I would have replaced "fat" with "fit". I haven't heard a celebrity us…
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 11:16 AM
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I would argue that just because someone is famous doesn't mean that they aren't "real".
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 11:07 AM
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I'll agree with the first part but I don't see anyone getting canceled for using the word "meathead"...
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 11:04 AM
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I was literally called a "Neanderthal" in an argument the other day and I just watched a video where Candice Owens talked about someone shaming her with "Go make your husband a sandwich". It definitely happens. You study and you are a "nerd" or a "book worm" but if you don't study; nobody better drop the R-Bomb... I mean, I don't have any statistical data for obvious reasons, but it is definitely my personal experience that healthy behaviors are free reign to criticize while unhealthy behaviors …
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 10:57 AM
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How women are even supposed to debunk some statements here. The same way that you seriously debunk ANY claim. Not through anecdotal evidence or personal experiences, but through using data, statistics, logic, and reasoning to poke holes in your opponent's argument. The problem is that the data and statistics back up Red/Black Pill, and the ones that don't can typically be debunked due to feminists fudging the numbers by claiming wild shit like "regretting a sexual encounter post-hoc is rape" or …
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 10:47 AM
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So black pill is the art of self helplessness and laziness. It CAN be... It depends on the person. I'm MGTOW but I still work out a minimum of 5 times a week, 3 sets of 15-20 reps, to failure, using progressive overload, and I still chase the bag. The only fundamental difference between myself and a Red Pill man is that I never plan to get married or cohabitate. I don't do self improvement to attract women, I do it for me because it helps me chase money and status. Which Red Pillers claim to do,…
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 09:33 AM

interesting you seem to think the mother’s role is to be weak and incompetent. I didn't say anything bad about the femine role. The feminine role is SUPPOSED to be weak, soft, and non-threatening. It's a nurturing role. Women can be VERY competent at being mothers, but typically not at being fathers and you really should have both. But also, if he needs to be distant and disconnected and far away from the kids to maintain the illusion that he’s capable of keeping them fed… maybe he could try act…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:52 AM
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Red Pill absolutely acknowledges that. Red Pill is very much a philosophy of self improvement. Even Black Pill acknowledges it but then says that "The juice isn't worth the squeeze."
/r/AllPillDebate15/04/23 08:17 AM
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Well, I would actually agree that personality matters most, but ONLY because the right personality is an indicator of money and status. Lol That being said; you can fake it... I'm not sure if that means they've got us there or not... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 09:35 PM
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Sure, and that is what I was sort of getting at with difficulty tiers, but I would imagine that it's still going to be a bummer for most people if every time you come back to reality your IRL friends and family are treating you like you are an addict because of what your mom heard about it on the view. Unless you go full sociopath; you'll always have to deal with other people's opinions of you, and if you do go full sociopath; relationships won't be a huge deal anyway... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 09:26 PM
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I'm not saying it won't be amazing, but you will know it isn't real, you will know that any guy can just go pay some money and get the same deal, and that is what will ruin it. Prostitutes can be very convincing, but we know that we aren't getting anything that our friends and family will respect us for. As humans we want to do things that are challenging and unique so that we can brag and show off to other humans. Sure, we could have AI friends who are always validating us, but nobody wants to …
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 08:24 PM
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Well, humans tend to triage and prioritize helping people who we feel are suffering more or are in more immediate need of assistance. As a result; all of us have developed an instinct to at least slightly over-exaggerate our issues when seeking help while also dismissing the issues of people that we don't like. I think that women do it more because they are more reliant on men for help. Men do it less because we are punished for seeking help in the first place. Also keep in mind that a woman doe…
/r/MensRights14/04/23 07:58 PM
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Yeah, I didn't think about it but I'm guessing it probably works in reverse for us humans huh? In that; it would be harder to identify an easy mark because they all look injured... Hmm, definitely gives me something to think about... Probably not really useful as I'm not trying to "pick out marks" but could be an interesting idea to look into...
/r/MensRights14/04/23 07:34 PM
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I don't agree, I definitely think that red pill men still want to fuck the shit out of their virgin housewives...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:24 PM
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Damseling, a woman is biologically driven to damsel for the same reason babies are biologically driven to cry; eventually somebody will get sick of hearing the noise and come along to give them what they want.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 06:50 PM
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I've never rejected a woman for being too nice but I have rejected women for insisting that I be nice and the really nice ones are also typically very controlling individuals who are trying to baby proof the world and should be avoided at all costs in my experience. If she is fine with my behavior though; I don't have a problem with her being nice. And as others have stated; clingy and nice are not necessarily equivalent in this context. Clingy is demanding, nice is polite, appreciating, and val…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed that they keep dismissing the idea of high/low value recently... It's like; do you expect me to believe that a fat guy who is Raid Leader for his guild in World of Warcraft and a male stripper would both be equally as attractive to a group of 100 women chosen at random? They cannot handle the idea of sexual market value, which I think really speaks to their insecurities...
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 05:52 PM
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I think that sex robots will be awesome, but it won't be the savior that incels and even us MGTOW think that it will. The problem is that men don't fuck just because it feels good. Alcohol feels way better than fucking but most men would rather get laid than have a couple shots of whiskey. Why? Well, it ultimately boils down to status and validation. Nobody is going to look up to the guy who bangs 100 sex dolls... It's the same reason why incels can't just hire a prostitute to solve their proble…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 05:26 PM
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but does not diminish the woman's value. Yes it does. Nobody wants an STD and marrying a promiscuous woman is social suicide for a man. No man can respect another man who marries a promiscuous woman. What about encouraging other high quality men to not give sex that easily fellas? Why would I do that? I'm not arguing that women should sleep with low-value men... I'm arguing that high-value men have earned the right to sleep around. If a low-value man wants sex; he can hire a prostitute or go Pas…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 04:31 PM
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It’s all a cope or deal with not having to confront the fact you aren’t desirable because of things in your control. When does red pill say it's not in your control? That is black pill, but I think that even most black pillers would agree that enough money, and status, can get even a trucel laid. I don't think anybody believes that Danny DeVito is an incel... if I was a woman would I date me? That is a difficult question to answer for people who don't understand female attraction. I'm sure that …
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 04:20 PM
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The goal is gender equality... I don't need or even want to oppress women... I just don't want 14 year old boys, like Nick Olivas, to be forced to pay child support to their rapist... Speaking of which; it might be nice to include "forced to penetrate" as part of the definition of rape again. I don't think that being treated like a human being in the eyes on the law is too much to ask but apparently; it's about to start a gender war... So; I say let it...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:40 PM
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No, women might need us to survive, but we only need them to procreate... There is a difference...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:34 PM
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Why wouldn't it work? Sure, it might start a gender war, but who do you think would win that war, big, strong, masculine, men, or the independent boss babes who can't even beat teenage boys at soccer? He's absolutely right... Feminism needs men to defend and support it... Men's Rights doesn't NEED women...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:32 PM
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Yep, he is engaging in a cognitive bias called "attribution bias"...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:18 PM
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Do you think that being enemies to women will fix that? It seems to work ok enough for feminism... Plus, what's the alternative, they aren't interested in helping us, they abandoned us, remember? We're just playing the hand that we were dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:07 PM
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The Men's Rights Movement used to be called the "Men's Libertarian Movement" and it was a feminist movement. Do you know what happened to it? It disbanded in the 70s after feminist groups gave up on paper abortions due to many women threatening to withdraw their funding... We never wanted to be enemies of feminism or women, we wanted to be allies, but feminists forced our hand... They made their bed, now they can lay in it...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:58 PM
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He's making good points! Quick! Somebody assassinate his character!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:53 PM
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What if I told you that misandry and misogyny feed each other, and that as long as dark-triad personally types exist; neither issue can be solved... Also; let's not pretend that half of what qualifies as "misogyny" in 2023 is ACTUAL misogyny. Nobody is calling to abort all female babies or sterilize all women... The same can't be said for males...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:46 PM
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This phenomenon is called "attribution bias"... It is a cognitive bias that all people engauge in, however; it also happens to be a core tenant of feminist ideology.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 02:35 PM
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Be careful about flexing your brain on others if your goal is to win allies to your cause. Even if you're right; "being openly smart is foolish, being openly foolish is smart."
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 02:29 PM

That is the traditional role, dude: bring in the paycheck and ignore the brats while you come home late for dinner expecting a meatloaf on the table. This is exactly what I mean when I say that women don't understand the role of a father. Just because you don't see it happening in real time doesn't mean it isn't happening. Sometimes the best things a father can do for his family are done outside of the home and it's not at all easy by any stretch of the imagination. Most women can't do what fath…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:45 PM
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Most would enthusiastically say "Yes!" and then claim that you are being unfair when you wont make special exceptions for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 11:36 AM
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The amount of different genitals you see in a lifetime is not indicative of your worth, regardless of gender. No, not your personal worth, but it is indicative of the value that you are capable of providing to people who are selective about who they show their genitals too. I'm not better than anyone because of an ability to relate to others. You are conflating personal value with sexual market value. More desirable does not mean inherently better in every way but it does mean more desirable. No…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 10:54 AM
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No, having a lot of sex is bad for both men and women. The difference is that a man has to achieve something that women value to have a lot of sex, even a fat and ugly woman can rack up a tripple digit body count within the span of a year if she puts her mind to it. As a result, when a man has a lot of sex women think; "what makes him special?" when a woman has a lot of sex men think; "she's going to cheat, give me an STD, and/or my family is going to eventually find the bukake porn she did in c…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 10:29 AM
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Because "weak men create hard times" a father has a specific role, it's a difficult and challenging role, a man who abandons that role when children are involved and pawns his responsibility off on his wife; is not a strong man and neither is a man who accepts more burden than he can bare because his wife doesn't want to fulfill her role as a wife and mother. I would also suggest that most women don't actually understand the father's role, they think that a father's role is to just be a second m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:21 AM
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No, by my logic; what men do is exactly what needs to be done, single mothers just don't understand why what we do is important and dismiss 95% of our job as just faffing about. A man doesn't need to be "hands on", especially when his kids are under 10, and in fact being too "hands on" can actually damage his reputation with his kids. His kids should never see him fuck up or fail, a father should be like a God to his kids, which often means maintaining a level of professional distance until he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:03 AM
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High value man? Are you implying that all men are equally attractive to a general population of women? That a fat guy who is Raid Leader in World of Warcraft will be equally as desirable as a male stripper to a group of 100 women picked at random? No one wants to be with someone who doesn’t want to be with them. I'm pretty sure that they do, in fact, there is even a name for it; we call it "unrequited love" and it is a central feature in many ideas including "love triangles" which includes 3 or …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:55 PM
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I've had an idea sort of floating around in my head for a few days, "Passport Couples"... You have Passport Bros who move overseas to find a woman so that they can have a traditional relationship on the cheap. So, in theory; you COULD find a traditional woman FIRST and THEN go to another country together... Possibly something to discuss with your partner if this idea sounds interesting to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:20 PM
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I don't know about giving up the right to vote, but if you plan on having kids; you should probably look at the statistics for children raised by single mothers first. I almost guarantee that they are worse than you think that they are. Effects of Fatherlessness – Teenage Statistics 63% of all youth suicides, 70% of all teen pregnancies, 71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abusers, 80% of all prison inmates, and 90% of all homeless and runaway children, came from single mother homes. Childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:28 PM
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Historically; only 40% of men have ever passed on their genes, I don't really see a reason to combat male sexlessness. I don't think it's as detrimental as one might think. The real detriment is single mothers when you look at the statistics. Plus if men REALLY want to pass on their genes, and can't get laid; we can hire a surrogate for about $50k. If all you're after is sex; we can hire a prostitute for a couple hundred bucks. We can even move to another county and hire one every night for penn…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 08:40 PM
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Sandman recently did a video about it on YouTube.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:04 PM
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seems to have stabalized since 1996 What do you think would happen to those statistics if feminists passed a bill like they have been talking about in Europe to tax all men for child support money? When you consider Title IV-D of the Social Security Act, and the all of the corruption there; I wouldn't be surprised if they don't start talking about implementing a bill like that here.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 04:40 PM
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Hey here is another scary statistic... The number of single mothers has doubled since 1968...
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 04:19 PM
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.is?
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 03:03 PM
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Men who give blue pill advice on how to get laid are low-key trying to signal preselection and therefore status. They are implying that they have the secret magic bullet to getting laid, and then they just regurgitate everything the women, who have no experience with dating women as men; have told them. They are effectively humble bragging that they can get pussy for internet cred but 9 times out of 10 they are either lying or getting cucked...
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 02:34 PM
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That's not even an exhaustive list, if you've got about 45 minutes; I would highly recommend this video.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 01:24 PM
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I don't think that I could get on board with limiting male births, I don't think that it would have the effects that you think it will. I'm noticing arguments from other commenters that make a lot of sense, like; how do you solve the problem of women just dating outside of the U.S. or sharing Chad? Then there are also the military implications to consider. The world hates us, and for good reason, America cannot stop sticking our dick's in every other country's business. We unfortunately HAVE to …
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 01:12 PM
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Well, as long as they don't know your name... Still risky though, especially if they decide to hire a private investigator to track you down. Those mfs will lie to your family to get info on you believe it or not. "Hi, I'm am old buddy of Joe's from high school, I've been trying to hunt him down to reconnect, do you have his new number or address?" -The beginning of Joe's end. I completely get your decision though, I'm MGTOW but not really monk mode, no marriage, no cohabitation. I'm not activel…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 11:41 AM
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Who do you think runs the state? If there is ever any doubt as to who is in power; just look for the sacred "isms" that are taboo to question. Which "isms" in our society, in 2023; are taboo to question, masculinism, or feminism? Patriarchy or Matriarchy? Which is more likely to get you canceled and deplatformed, the phrase; "all men are trash" or the phrase; "all women are trash"? Do you think that people in power would ever get deplatformed? Of course not, they would start a moral crusade to s…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 10:40 AM
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If you live in a country like France; go Passport Bro or MGTOW monk immediately... I've considered what the French government would do if women just started putting high ranking officials down as the father. I think that it would be interesting either to pay a few women to do this and/or plant the seed to do this in women's heads and then watch what happens as they all scramble to protect their own asses without being called misogynists. If you were going to do this; you would also have to run a…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 10:17 AM
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Psychological egoism is not the same as sociopathy or psychopathy. I never said it was, it is justification for, not equivalent to. My argument is that people should cultivate a sociopathic mindset because of psychological egoism, not that psychological egoism is sociopathy. If you are aware that people are only interested in having their own needs met. Then an obvious trick to being needed by people is to learn a unique set of skills that can see to fulfilling peoples needs, wants or desires. W…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 07:12 AM
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Yeah, but who is going to tell them, the school system run by the same government that is profiting from keeping families apart?
/r/MensRights13/04/23 07:05 AM
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It just completely blows my mind that this is even a thing. Does it though? Are you really THAT surprised that people are pawning their children off onto the slave class? What kind of logic are we using with this! He used his penis, ergo; he is a predator... Please tell me these are fringe cases where the guy was involved already, or something! No... Happens all the time... Anytime your wife/girlfriend has a baby there is a 40% chance that it isn't yours... Always get paternity tests, never sign…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 06:36 AM
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The nurse was adamant I sign the birth certificate Gotta love feminists, always abusing their authority to fuck over and silence men... I hope that you didn't sign it... NEVER sign SHIT without a paternity test... You have no legal obligation to sign anything... Honestly; it's not the worst idea in the world to get a lawyer to help you through the process of verifying and claiming paternity. You got saved because the baby daddy wasn't the same color. What if the baby daddy had of been the same c…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 06:22 AM
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If women truly have less self control or more easily manipulated via pheromones and hormones due to being a mammal and being the opposite biological sex to us. Are they? 50% of men under 30 are virgins but I'm expected to believe that a woman gets around a man and just cannot control herself? Bullshit... If it was that easy to manipulate a woman into bed; PUA would just be a glorified Avon pitch... If anything; men are the ones who are easily manipulated with sex due to our overactive libido, st…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 05:46 AM
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Get paternity tests for your kids gentlemen... Accept no excuses, shame, insults, or ridicule... No paternity test = that kid doesn't have a daddy...
/r/MensRights13/04/23 05:39 AM
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"gimme" -an exhaustive list of feminist's demands
/r/MensRights13/04/23 05:25 AM
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Solution? Fire any employee who calls in sick on May 12th... They act like men actually want them in the workforce... We don't... They had to throw a holy fit and create laws to inconvenience the rest of us and force their way into the workplace in the first place... Do they really think we are going to care if they decide to stop showing up? Hell no... It would be a huge H.R. burden lifted off of our shoulders, even if only for a week or two, plus we would be getting paid a family wage again. I…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 04:59 AM
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Well, nobody has the right to be happy without being judged but we do all absolutely have the right to not respect or care about anyone's judgment of what makes us happy as well as to demand that we be allowed to continue to do what makes us happy under threat of political revolution. Additionally, one of the things that might make us happy after reading an article like this one; is to not tip women wearing pigtails, or any woman period if we do choose. Behind every "empowered" woman is a man sh…
/r/MensRights13/04/23 03:45 AM
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Physically and verbally abusing someone until they agree to do onlyfans shit for you isn't consent. It's not the lover boy method either... He told them all the plan and that they could leave at any time... What do you want him to do, throw them all out the door every 10 minutes and only take the ones that beg to come back? And for fuck's sake, all the proof of his misconduct is online. "Proof" from who? EVERYONE has an agenda... The sooner that you figure that out; the better off you will be...…
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 03:16 PM
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Controversial opinion; but if you cultivate a sociopathic mindset there is no need to cope or rope. Once you fully understand and accept the fact that nobody has your best interests at heart, that devil take the hindmost, that humans are all puppets of our own psychological egoism, then you have no use for friends, much less relationships, you have no reason to respect other people's opinions enough to care about how they see you or anything else for that matter as it's all a manipulation to ach…
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 05:26 AM
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makes more money spends none of it on the family still expects husband to appreciate her "sacrifice" while he pays all of the bills and does all of the housework
/r/MensRights12/04/23 04:12 AM
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This is the most polite and respectful way of addressing this topic that I have ever seen. You sir are a genuine wordsmith!
/r/MensRights12/04/23 04:10 AM
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Until their speech becomes unpopular, then it must be protected at all costs... Hopefully men will remember these days when the tides begin to turn...
/r/MensRights12/04/23 03:59 AM
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Because many of them are adults, dude. What kind of a 13 year old is going onto an incel site? Sure, there may be adult incels but statistically, many if not most incels; are teenagers. Even if they aren't teenagers, the rest of the man-o-sphere doesn't exactly embrace the incel community with open arms. But we do know he did that, look it up dude, there's evidence of his actions. People lie, including journalists, look at how the media smeared Johnny Depp, Justin Roiland, and Marilyn Manson and…
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 01:12 AM
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Had a fuck buddy who kept an orbiter. Dude wanted her bad but she just wanted to be friends. She wanted to bring her new BF over to his house, he said no for obvious reasons, she threw a holy fit, over the phone, in my front yard, screaming at him, and going off the deep end. It was embarrassing af. Eventually he agreed to meet the boyfriend. I think that he should have just bounced right there tbh but for some reason the dude just stayed on the phone and took it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:57 PM
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Firstly; Business 101: Don't be afraid of competition. Competition just means that there is a market for your product. Doing your own R&D to break into a brand new market is what is risky. Oculus Rift vs HTC Vive, iPhone vs Android, etc..., etc... It's called "The Burger King Model" and it's very effective. Secondly; You don't HAVE to be an influencer. No matter what business or side hustle that you are working on; it NEVER hurts to have good marketing and a strong social media presence. I see c…
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 10:11 AM
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Well, no reason to cope with not having something that you can just buy for a couple hundred bucks. Lol Back in the day; a lot of fathers would actually take their sons to brothels as soon as it was legal to do so but now days; you cannot take your adult son to a brothel without getting excommunicated from the gynocracy. In the long run; most guys are usually ok with getting laid about once a week, if you can't afford that; then you need to become singularly focused on building your looks, money…
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 06:23 AM
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How do we know those incels aren't 13 themselves? Plus; incels are kind of outcasts even within the man-o-sphere so even if they are a pedo friendly community; I don't think that reflects poorly on the rest of the man-o-sphere. Yeah, he was arrested, not convicted, and for the lover boy method, not throwing people in cages... Even if he's guilty; what exactly is wrong with the lover boy method? But no, it's definitely not a joke, trust me when I say that I am taking this case VERY seriously and …
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 02:29 AM
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Exactly brother then bump this in the stereo on the ride home. Lol Bottom line is; do what you want to do, fuck other people's opinions about it. As long as you aren't breaking any laws; you're golden. Plus, continually proving to yourself that you can get laid whenever you want is 100% going to change how you instinctively interact with women over time. You will stop pedestalizing them to get at their pussy cause you could get pussy tonight if you wanted it for cheaper than a relationship with …
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 01:56 AM
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Yep, gotta love the shame game... Eventually guys will catch on... I mean what do you think Passport Bro'ing is other than men catching on to the fact that they have been duped into boycotting their best options by the shame game? Passport Bro'ing has always existed, we just shamed it and called them losers, but now it's going mainstream and a lot of the ex-shamers are getting in on the action. That's why I keep saying "you've gotta be able to tell people to go fuck themselves." otherwise you'll…
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 12:59 AM
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Don't you know by now? It's only predatory when men do it...
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 12:27 AM
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Andrew Tate is actually pretty decent when you watch his long-form content instead of the clips that everyone keeps taking out of context. I didn't like him at first either, then I saw what was going on. I haven't seen any pedos in the man-o-sphere, just men being called pedos for wanting a relationship with a younger adult woman. I mean, I guess if you count the guys who support circumcision aka the practice of raping male babies with knives "pedophiles" then sure, I will agree with you, but mo…
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 12:22 AM
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The reality is; we don't actually know because feminists keep skewing the numbers, so; yes, the numbers do indeed lie when they are being manipulated by feminists. You mentioned "rape" for example, super bad, obviously way more female victims and male perpetrators, right? Wrong... The 90+% number that you see was closer to 50%. The problem is that feminists removed "forced to penetrate" as part of the definition of rape while also expanding the definition of consent to include concepts like "ret…
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 10:47 PM

My comment had +3 up votes and was still removed by reddit? Wtf? I guess we're all just a bunch of degenerates in reddit's eyes... Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:16 PM
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Except you literally do have to fear for your life.... Women may not be able to do much damage to you with their bare hands but they can still turn weapons on you, including the local authorities... I was just talking to a man yesterday, on this very sub, who was repeatedly raped by a woman who was threatening him with a false allegation if he didn't have sex with her. I've also met men who have had their houses, cars, and personal property destroyed, men who have had boiling water thrown on the…
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 08:30 AM
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The patriarchy hasn't existed since women won the right to vote. We don't have a patriarchy anymore, we have a gynocracy. Maybe this argument held some weight in the 60s or 70s but feminists have had more than 50 years in power and all they had to do was get out of our way, yet they continued to block us at every round of the corner while claiming more and more privileges for themselves. We aren't dealing with the patriarchy anymore, today we are dealing with female chauvinism and a gynocentric …
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 02:57 AM
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Oooor, we could just refuse to put up with it anymore... Problem solved...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:09 AM
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Sure, but from the perspective of the white, middle class, sub-urban, soccer mom; 50 Shades of Trailer Park would be 26 Chapters of horrific and brutal rape by a disgusting subhuman pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:05 AM
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But even more wrong with hers if she wants to try that shit... Don't start something you can't finish... Equal rights; equal lefts...
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 02:41 AM
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We listen to social cues and women complain that we give up too easy because they are playing hard to get... We ignore social cues and women complain that we are creepy... We are much better off just going abroad where women don't play those games IF after all of the games, lies, manipulation, and deception we even still care about finding a woman and paying her bills just for her to secretly hate and resent us for our troubles...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:27 AM
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Give it time. If that doesn't work; try dating a feminist, then repeat Step 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:16 AM
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Well, yeah, it's like; why is it always at the gym? It's because the gym gives her an excuse to wear skin-tight yoga pants or booty shorts and then do squats in public without looking like a slut. It's about plausible deniability. She doesn't ACTUALLY want the attention to stop, she just wants to humble brag about it on TikTok. If she ACTUALLY wanted the attention to stop; she would just wear normal shorts and a jersey like men do. Imagine going out in public wearing a red, white, and blue suit …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:18 AM
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I'm pretty sure that this woman has said "Why don't men ask me out?" at least a couple times, but don't worry, men will definitely continue to leave all of you VERY alone. Lol MGTOW and Passport Bros fleeing from the west in 2023:
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 01:06 AM
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A lot of the TikTok shit is humble bragging. Women want to show off their ability to attract and keep high value men. When they can't show off their ability to keep a high value man, typically because they have a nasty attitude (which is also a flex btw), then they will show off how easy it is for them to pull men, but they can't just be sluts about it because that lowers her SMV, so if they go out half naked, or with skin-tight clothes on, bullshit everyone into believing that she chose that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:53 AM
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Creepiness is subjective, yes, but it's also inherently linked to looks, money, and status. If 50 Shades of Grey took place in a trailer park; it would be a horror novel...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:37 AM
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Well, passport bros have always been a thing, it was just called "foreign" or "mail-order" brides, and it was VERY stigmatized as being desperate and needy, however, once you push things to the extreme those "desperate and needy" options become sound and reasonable. That is the entire reason for the re-branding in the first place. It shakes off the stigma of the "mail-order bride" rhetoric.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 11:31 PM
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Nah, I still don't care... Women are on their own this time around... Let me know how far that child support check goes in 2023 when the middle class men are Passport Bro'ing and the wealthy are protecting their assets using legal loopholes. Plus, nothing says "preselection" for us men quite like being a single-father, so; take your few hundred dollars a month if you want... Men can hold out, it's not our bodies, not our responsibility of care, like women have constantly reminded us of for last …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:22 PM
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It's not even a fucking insult to not be able to talk to women like that. Why am I not able to? Is there something wrong with my mouth?
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 11:14 PM
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I think that you pretty much nailed it. Either that or Passport Bro'ing will be stopped by our government in some way to keep us from hemorrhaging money overseas but then I expect that will trigger a backlash that will take us back to the 1920s potentially. Especially if we wait until AFTER polyamory is normalized to hit the brakes.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 08:35 AM
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The "wrong behavior" is any behavior that doesn't signal money, and/or status. And the behavior that signals money and status is probably not the behavior that you would tell him to exhibit either... The behavior to exhibit if you want to signal money and status are the dark triad behaviors of people who have thousands of fanboys and fangirls, constantly defending them, stroking their ego, and begging for their time, sometimes causing all sort of drama if their lives slowly and secretly turning …
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 08:00 AM
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Men were* for abortion rights... but then women got their reproductive rights and told us to fuck off and keep our legs closed for the next 50 years when we wanted our own... So now that they are losing their reproductive rights; we simply don't care... You guys can always just keep your legs close like you told us to do... Let us know how that works out for ya... Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:47 AM
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That's why MGTOW exists. No wife, happy life. Highly recommend it...
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 07:33 AM
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his own testimony Which can be verified by the Googles with just a little effort and a decent understanding of keywords and search terms. Men like you, though... never gonna happen. Ouch, did my undermining of your agenda to re-assimilate and simpify incels strike a nerve? Lol I also like how you assume that I'm one of them just because I don't agree with you, can't beat the classics...
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 05:55 AM
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Prove me wrong. Iceberg Slim
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 05:35 AM
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Who cares? Fuck em... Do you remember our conversation about MGTOW and validation seeking the other day? You can't just say "fuck women" if you want to go MGTOW, you have to be able to say "fuck men" and "fuck society" too. You even have to be able to say "fuck my friends and family" if it comes to that, and you will almost certainly lose friends and family and the ones that don't bail will almost certainly look at you differently. Fuck em... It's about doing what you want, when you want, not gi…
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 04:07 AM
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accepting he could be contributing to this issue Men really don't contribute to their lack of success, they only fail to contribute to their success. You either have looks, money, and status or you don't. All other factors can be overlooked and/or accepted.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 03:54 AM
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Of course my looks put me at sky high risk of a dead bedroom marriage - and time will tell about that - but we're still going strong in bed at 20 years in. Still, the exception doesn't prove the rule Let me guess, high school/college sweethearts? Cause if so; that is why it worked out... If NOT then I'm going to have to ask you to define "going strong"... Because that doesn't sound right, sure there are always exceptions but I doubt that I am talking to one. not many. BDSM fetishes/rape fantasie…
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 03:43 AM
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It was because I was talking to women out of mt league Can you imagine if someone told a woman that she was "talking to men out of her league"... OMG... Instantly canceled... Lol You weren't talking to women "out of your league" you were talking to women with super inflated egos... Go to the Philippines and you will be pulling hot tail like you wouldn't believe and they speak English so you're already good to go.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 03:30 AM
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You would think so but actually; the land whales are harder to bag than mids. Landwhales have insecurity issues and have to get a high value man to prove to themselves, and their peers, that they are desirable. As a result; they are often Chad or bust. It's the same reason why old lady's standards increase as they age. They are trying to prove that they've "still got it". Even if you do get one; you will have to constantly validate her and walk on eggshells just to offset all of the disgusted lo…
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 03:26 AM
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Women without hypergamy spawn all the time. We call them trailer park queens. They are still typically interested in other masculine qualities though, such as muscles, motorcycles, and an unapologetic and unrelenting independence, ruggedness, and self-reliance, but they do exist. What makes hypergamy so dangerous is that it is fairly common and you can't always identify it until you're smacked with divorce papers.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 03:12 AM
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Incels don't want women around them. They want to get laid. Which isn't going to happen without looks, money, and status and if they get looks, money, and status; women will overlook their behavior. Hell, believe it or not; some women, especially ones with humiliation, disrespect, and BDSM fetishes, will even be turned on by it... The fact that you don't know this about female sexuality kinda makes any dating advice that you give sus af.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 02:44 AM
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Sure, except they aren't children, they are adults, and the women who pretend that adults are children are doing so because they are old, jealous, and trying to destroy the young woman's sexual access taking their man as a spoil of war. It's not because they are trying to protect anyone, they don't give a fuck about those women, they are trying to get a leg up and desperately fight off the wall for as long as possible as their biological clock runs out. It's the old lady version of slut shaming.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 11:25 PM
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The world is more than just The U.S. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country About one-third of males worldwide are circumcised, Meaning that 2/3rds of parents aren't pedo rapists. You don't have any data or statistics, you're literally just pulling shit out of your ass and hurling the word "dumbass" around because you are offended. Well be offended by my dick you filthy animal.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 09:52 PM
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The majority of people in the U.S.* the majority of people around the world don't hack up children's genitalia.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 09:45 PM
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What the actual fuck is wrong with you. The pedo rapist asking what is wrong with me? That's rich, what is wrong with YOU pedo?
/r/MensRights07/04/23 08:59 PM
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"Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent." -Wikipedia or other forms of sexual penetration Yeah, I am not going to change my language just because it makes pedo rapists uncomfortable, stabbing a baby in the dick, (i.e. penetrating the foreskin of their sexual organ with a knife, because, we are all more concerned about using technically correct vocabulary than we are the sexual abuse of …
/r/MensRights07/04/23 08:57 PM
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No, I'm done talking to you now, you don't get to continue this conversation after that comment, again; go. fuck. yourself. pedophile.
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:44 AM
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So, it's ok to rape male babies with knives because you were cool that it happened to you? Well I wasn't... Go fuck yourself pedo...
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:40 AM
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Why are you so obsessed with sex? Have you considered that maybe men are oppressed because of issues like; -The male-only draft -Circumcision aka the institutionalized raping of male babies with knives -Child Custody/Divorce Laws -Rape Victims having to pay child support to their rapists (Nick Olivas) -Justin Roiland, Johnny Depp, and other victims of the #MeToo movement -Lack of birth control options as well as reproductive rights -and countless other issues that you would know about if you too…
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:31 AM
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I KNOW that men* are oppressed, period. Not even Chad is exempt from institutional misandry. Inceldom is, in some ways; a symptom of male oppression. Not because women won't fuck them but because they have had the self-respect beaten and abused out of them so bad that they crave the embrace and acceptance of people who hate them as if it's their fault for not being good enough. To any incel reading this; you ARE good enough, ALL of you, it's the women who are fucked up. Cast them off and go MGTO…
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:08 AM
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You think this is new? We've never had free speech my dude. We talk about "yelling fire is a crowded theater" but we forget and/or don't care that when Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes gave that as an example he was trying to justify sending a group of yiddish speaking socialists to prison for writing a book...
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 07:03 AM
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Gotta go that extra mile when you are a single mom looking for Captain Save-A-Hoe I guess. Fucking disgusting behavior. I hope she dies alone.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:55 AM
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Luckily; we don't want post wall single moms either, so it all works out...
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:47 AM
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Because you can't be educated, if you don't already know why it's wrong to cut up someone's genitalia without their consent; there is no amount of education that is going to educate the monster out of you.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:19 AM
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And that is exactly why men need this subreddit in the first place.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:15 AM
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I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. I'm also sorry that you had your experience being dismissed and invalidated because girls get their ears pierced. This really pisses me off. Don't worry brother, they will get what is coming to them eventually. You don't go this deep into hate and oppression against an entire class of people expecting to ride the wave forever without any sort of backlash.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 06:11 AM
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I think it would be pretty hard to explain feminism otherwise... It's not just the penis though, they are jealous of the whole fucking package.
/r/MensRights07/04/23 04:35 AM
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She's mid 30s and using a filter. She is post-wall and average at best. No Chad is going to go near her for anything more than a quick poke and run.
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 03:22 AM
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I can't speak for the incels but for us MGTOW; we just want you guys to leave us tf alone. Stop saying that you're "asexual" or that we will "make someone very happy one day" so that you can save face, continue to be our "friends" and leech time, energy, and resources, off of us for free, and instead just tell men the truth. Low value men disgust you and you do not trust or respect any of them. The only purpose that they serve is being a piggy bank between breakups and a backup plan if Chad chas…
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 03:02 AM
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An oppressed group is angry? I know! Let's put them on a list, that'll fix the problem! I would clown emoji but that might get me put on a list... Lol
/r/AllPillDebate07/04/23 02:46 AM

When presented with a solid point and all else has failed; blue pillers will use S.I.G.N. Language (Shame, Insults, Guilt, and the Need to be right) in order to take revenge for their wounded egos. Who is correct is less important than who wins the argument and ad hominems are a very effective way to win an argument where you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:31 PM

Yeah, I don't care, do you think that I say what I say because I want simp and female friends? Do you think it bothers me that women and people who potentially drag uninvited women around with them to their buddies houses, and bring them into discords, and take them to every other male space they can find, don't like me? Absolutely not... The transaction of judgments here are equally beneficial to all parties involved. The last thing I want is some simp or woman thinking that I'm "normal" and "w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:11 PM

1). There are men who are just as capable of coddling as women. 2). It's not that they "don't understand", it's that the majority of the time they are fake af. Have you seen how they treat each other? If a man cries; he is pathetic and weak in their eyes. They just don't voice it to his face. Instead they talk shit behind his back. If a man cries in front of another man; he will tell him to get himself together, he will voice his discomfort, but he can still respect that man tomorrow. 3). I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:07 PM

Not as much as I value the company of men, no... Not when you consider the downsides juxtaposed with the fact that men are just as good if all you want is a friend. At least if you and your male friend get into a brawl; you might not be going to jail. That "low level threat of violence" as Bill Burr likes to call it; keeps men respectful to each other. Then if she is attractive; you're walking around with an annoying af boner whenever she bends over or jiggles the right way. Bob doesn't make me …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:29 AM

Ok, name something a woman can do, that a man can't, that doesn't involve sex, child birth, or bureaucracy... I'll wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:15 AM

Why because I am not a female supremacist? You do realize that you're implying that if I don't believe that women are better than men; they don't want anything to do with me? Well, good, I don't really want to associate with sexists if that is the case...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:02 AM
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You are a programmer fluent in python with no money, and no network, how do you get back to the financial level that you are at now?
/r/AllPillDebate06/04/23 08:57 AM

What value? I've never met a woman that could do anything that a man couldn't do that didn't involve her jiggly bits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:44 AM

Alrighty, I buy it, you're probably legit, if that had happened to me my first time; it would probably change my outlook on sex too. Most guys aren't like that though. I'm sure you've been in the locker rooms and discord servers. You know what I am talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:49 AM

Yeah, a LOT of men are like that too, but I think that women are worse with it, especially around strangers and acquaintances, because they can do it in public without going to jail or if they do go to jail; they just get a slap on the wrist. I do think that men would be worse with it if we let all the prisoners from both genders out on the street tomorrow though. I think that the reason why women are worse is because there are a lot of women who belong in jail walking the street. Not because wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:22 AM

I'm kinda skeptical that you are for real, I have talked to too many guys in private who make these types of claims in public, but I am going to work on the assumption that you are; Think about your least attractive female friend, you get an opportunity to fuck her sexually submissive clone, she knows about it and is cool with it, there is no chance for it to ruin the friendship or anyone else to ever find out about it, you're not going to dick her down, at least once, just out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:01 AM

You're implying that men aren't attracted to their ugliest female friends? Also; why not just fuck them both? If I had unlimited sexual access, do you believe that; there isn't a single adult woman, that I'm not related to, in a 50 mile radius; that wouldn't get the D at least once? I mean; I would even be hitting up bingo night at the nursing home for a 3 day orgy literally just because I was curious about whose grandmother has the saggiest, jiggliest, titties. Why don't I have sex with someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:59 AM

Most men ARE desperate... A lot of red pill men aren't desperate but they will still take it if they can get it. Not very many straight men are running around turning down sex. "No thanks ma'am I'm trying to cut back on sex." - NoMan Ever As for whether men and women can build a bond in spite of men's sexuality; I'm not sure to be honest... I'm kind of skeptical as to whether most women are capable of forming the same type of brotherly bonds that men form with each other. I suppose it's possible…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:56 AM

The vast majority of straight men are at least sexually attracted enough to want to fuck the vast majority of women. Does every man want to start a family with a random woman? Absolutely not, but I think if you gave a man a button and said "Push this button to have sex with your ugliest female friend and nobody will ever find out about it" the vast majority of unmarried men are pushing that button 99.99% of the time and the married men are still going to WANT to push it even if they won't actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:30 AM

Except that ignores how male attraction works. We have a penis, we can't get pregnant, from an evolutionary perspective; there is very minimal risk to sticking our penis in a woman but a very high potential reward. (i.e. We have a baby and pass on our penis-sticking genes to the next generation, maybe we'll pick up a couple warts in the process if we are particularly unlucky, but that's about it.) So, after millions of years of evolution, with penis-sticking men passing on their penis-sticking g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:13 AM

No, some men are gay...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:07 AM

I mean, sure, if you constantly agree with them and give into all of their demands; they are perfect little angels but try telling them that they can't borrow your stapler and see what happens... The next thing you know; you'll be spreading your cheeks bent over H.R.'s desk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:54 AM

A very emotional and irrational adult maybe... I've met a few who could behave themselves but no, most of the time; they are not at all above childish behavior such as pouting, name calling, and throwing temper tantrums to get their way. It's sad, and I really wish that I didn't have to live in a world where half of the people that I have to interact with to feed myself were effectively oversized children, but that is what happens when we give more lenient prison sentences to women for the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:34 AM

Straight men don't have PURELY platonic friendships with women, any man who says that they do is capping. As for relatives, well, you can't pick your family, you basically just gotta love them no matter how awful they are, within reason, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:24 AM
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Yeah, they don't realize that by saying "women use less lethal methods" they are implying that women are all airheaded bimbos, when compared to men, who are too incompetent to type "How to tie a noose" into Google... Option 1: They are either too incompetent to learn about what methods are effective, and then use them, like men do or Option 2: They are just trying to get attention Either way; it doesn't paint the women who are attempting suicide in a very flattering light.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 12:39 AM
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Yeah, I don't know if they realize that they are basically implying that women are a bunch of airheaded bimbos who are too incompetent to type "How to tie a slipknot" into Google.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 12:31 AM
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I almost guarantee that if hospitals started rejecting people who attempt suicide; we would see significantly less suicide attempts. There is a reason why women use less lethal methods, and I don't think it's because they are just too incompetent to learn how to tie a slipknot.
/r/MensRights06/04/23 12:28 AM
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Assuming that we are talking about suicide rates; women attempting more does not paint a very flattering picture of women no matter how you slice it. Option 1: They are either too stupid and/or incompetent to figure out how to use the more effective methods that men use or Option 2: They don't actually want to end their life, it's a cry for help that they are just using to garner attention and sympathy from their friends and family Pick whichever one you want because either way; it looks bad on …
/r/MensRights06/04/23 12:09 AM
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I don't believe that women should fuck beta males out of pity. If a beta wants to fuck; that is what a prostitute is for. That being said; I also believe that a woman who keeps beta orbiters is predatory and parasitic. She is exploiting weak and vulnerable men, with low self-esteem, who have hormonal imbalances, in the form of high testosterone, which makes them sex addicts, so that she can get validation and resources from them. It's a similar situation to the pimp who uses drugs/finesse to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:30 AM
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Women are the masters of conflating SMV with personal value because a woman's personal value is typically derived from the type of mate that they are able to attract while men typically derive our personal value from our career and/or our position within the social dominance hierarchy.
/r/AllPillDebate05/04/23 12:47 AM
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I haven't seen it, but I have seen similar shows. The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina is one such show. Every woman in the show hates men and every man in the show who isn't gay or Sabrina's lover is a cartoonish super villain.
/r/MensRights04/04/23 10:35 PM
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The truth of the world only lies in the middle if you assume that our culture isn't currently at one of the extremes. I will use the light color spectrum to explain since left/right has too many political implications. violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange, red. If society is in the yellow color; the far cool will be in the blue while the far warm will be in the red. That doesn't mean that yellow is the true middle. Green is actually the true middle between violet and red but when green op…
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 09:21 PM
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I don't think that they are "cringe losers" I think that some of them are grifters and others have sons, brothers, and husbands who they have seen be abused by women and possibly even took the rope because of it. Love them or hate them; we need them to give the simps permission to break their chains because women aren't the only ones who have been "programmed and conditioned to defend women at all costs". In fact; simps don't have an innate understanding of what is good/bad for the sisterhood li…
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 08:20 PM
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Oh, a witchunt could be the least of your problems. If you push back hard enough; you could easily wind up on a sex offender's registry or in a morgue. You have to be willing to commit 110% to be an outspoken and vocal MRA. It literally has to be a cause that you are willing to potentially lay down your life for. The right kind of white knight will have no problem putting a bullet in you to defend m'lady's honor and feminists are more than happy to instigate and facilitate it and then act shocke…
/r/MensRights04/04/23 02:26 AM
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Sounds about right. There is a reason why nobody knows about men's issues. Feminists wormed their way into positions of power, especially within educational establishments, and then immediately began abusing their authority to silence and oppress men. You might try going to the school staff and telling them what happened. See if you can't get the group reprimanded for sexism against men, say that you felt unsafe, uncomfortable, and unwelcome in an environment that you believe is hostile to men a…
/r/MensRights04/04/23 02:02 AM
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Yep, I highly recommend "The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi. It more or less covers all of this information. All attraction is ultimately for the validation of our peers for both men and women. As guys we think "Nuh uh, we want pussy!" but WHY do you want the pussy? Yeah, it feels good, but so does alcohol and heroin. We want the pussy because it gives us social status, which is a form of validation. It's easy to go MGTOW when you don't respect people's opinions enough to care about their judge…
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 11:19 PM
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They are in denial. Deep down they know that they are a 3/10 but they desperately want to believe the body positivity/girl boss narrative. If they can bag a 9/10 man; that will validate their delusion, inflate their ego, and give them bragging rights. A pump and dump is the closest they can get to that validation. A hottie knows that she is hot and doesn't need as much validation to convince her of that fact, as a result; they are more likely to date down. It's the same reason why they get more …
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 11:07 PM
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One of the many reasons why I am convinced that men and women can't be friends... Most women are incapable of seeing men as human beings. I've literally had women argue with me that men don't have emotions before. Just take whatever pussy you can get quick and easy and then ghost the rest. Not worth trying to be friends with someone who secretly resents you because of your penis.
/r/MensRights03/04/23 08:25 PM
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Yes, and while my longest relationship was found via friends; I have had much more success in terms of quantity using dating apps, that being said; I was also a blind swiper.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 07:13 PM
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My ex complained about me hitting her cervix but we also broke up not long after that. Not going to lie; it does seem a little fishy that out of the 5 years that we were sexually active; she only started complaining a few months before we broke up.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 07:07 PM
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From my perspective; I think that it just seems harsher because we aren't used to seeing women get back what they dish out to men. If you analyze it; they often derail the conversation to attack our dating insecurities first, our money, our looks, and our status, or just our value in general, and in return; the men will then attack their dating insecurities back like youth, fertility, and agreeableness. With the exception of Kevin Samuels from time to time; it's virtually tit for tat. Now, I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:16 PM
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Men prefer petite women, men also like women who are taller than them, it's the middle ground where she is kinda tall, but not tall enough to be noteworthy where men tend to be more likely to pass. That being said; height isn't as important for women as it is for men. Factors like height:weight ratio, agreeableness, and the appearance of fertility are much more important. You can still easily have Chads falling all over you at 5'7" if you get the other stuff right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:59 PM
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I suppose it is possible that my biases could be influencing my perception without my knowledge, at the same time; the same could be said for you. If I can admit that; isn't it also possible that you might be not seeing anything wrong with women's S.I.G.N. Language being used against men for the same reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. I typically see it being brought up to explain some aspect of dating. Whenever it is brought up out of spite or mockery; the woman is typically the one who started the shit flinging. I don't see a lot of guys verbally attacking women for absolutely NO reason. The man is typically being provoked by a women trying to use S.I.G.N. Language (Shame, Insults, Guilt, and the Need to be right) when the wall is brought up in mockery. Not sure that I've ever seen it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:01 PM
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Not necessarily, it is perfectly fine, and in fact; expected for a man to pay for all of a woman's bills under red pill, just not for nothing. A man should only do this for a woman that has proven herself to be both loyal and submissive. Where the beta behavior comes in is when men lead with their wallets or pay a woman's bills who uses S.I.G.N. Language (Shame, Insults, Guilt, and the Need to be right), cheats on him, and/or is physically repulsed by him. "If she is dating me; everything in her…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:26 PM
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Oh, shit dude, these days; I am a MGTOW monk, but maybe about 3 years ago, then probably about 5 before that. I don't really have a lot of sex. My body count is 5 and I'm 32.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 06:35 AM
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Sorry you're struggling bro, you've probably heard this before but if it makes you feel any better; sex isn't all it's cracked up to be, whiskey is literally better than sex and it's $20 for a fifth.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 06:18 AM
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Aaah, well, her husband is willing to put up with it. The first time infidelity happens; it's on them, every subsequent time; it's on you, if it's progressed to a point that she has a boyfriend and they both know about each other; that's on him. Their simping only helps us by taking two men and one polyamorous woman off of the dating market.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 06:09 AM
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Yeah, I was a little surprised by it myself, I don't think she was disgusted with me, I think that she was disgusted with herself. I mean; she shouldn't have been, she did me a favor, but that's what happened.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 06:07 AM
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I mean, she wasn't mad about it, I could just tell by the look on her face that she was horrified and disgusted. We fucked again after that, but I could tell that our relationship was different after I told her. She broke up with me a couple weeks later.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 05:45 AM
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They don't like it because they don't like anything that limits their sexual access. Have you heard of the 1675 women's petition against coffee? They almost got coffee outlawed in England. The prohibition movement was also largely fought by women. In both instances; a big thing that the women complained about was men's libidos. They are a little slicker about it these days but it's still going on with the fight to outlaw porn and sex robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:40 AM
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I didn't see anything about her husband.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 05:07 AM
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A man hiring a prostitute is sharing her with other men. A man who has a wife; is paying her a premium for her exclusivity.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 04:49 AM
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Sure, but that just means that they are buying exclusivity from one and not from the other.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 04:25 AM
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You should look into progressive overload and hypertrophy training if you're trying to looks-max, at your age and size; you should be benching a minimum of 3 sets of 20, to true failure, 3-5 times a week, and adding about 5 lbs a week, every week.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 03:47 AM
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Well, if you want an honest answer; hit the gym much harder, get ripped, then lose the under shirt and sleeves. When women are looking at your picture they are instinctively evaluating you as a potential protector, as a result; you want to look like a marine or MMA fighter, and then you want to put that physique proudly on display.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 03:43 AM
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The girl I lost my virginity to didn't like that I was a virgin and we were 14. I say, if you're still a virgin at like 23; just go hire a prostitute or two so that you can say you've had sex, if questioned about it; just say that you don't kiss and tell.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 03:32 AM
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It's not about "blaming" anyone, those are incels, sure, I guess that you could technically say that being an incel is a form of red pill rage, but I'm talking about MGTOW. The reason MGTOW exists is because they all learned what women want from a man, i.e. looks, money, and status, and decided that prostitutes were cheaper and that they leave when they are finished. Women can't help what they are attracted to, no point in blaming them for it, "the juice just isn't worth the squeeze" as the sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:14 AM
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Well, yeah, it's absolutely depressing, why do you think red pill rage and groups like MGTOW exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:00 AM
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Even Rollo Tomassi will tell you that the wall doesn't ACTUALLY exist. If you're willing to work hard and keep yourself up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:58 AM
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My 40 year old chunky cousin on welfare is dating a smoking hot 23 year old, has been for a couple years, but he is really funny so he has that going for him. Still, she is definitely a 20%er I don't think that he could pull another girl like her if he tried. My sister dated a short guy for about 3-4 years. They split though, now she is dating a guy who is like 6'3".
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 02:54 AM
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You're always going to pay for sex as a man. You're either paying her directly or you are paying her bills but you're always paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:51 AM
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Only men can jump over the wall with wealth. Cher and Jennifer Lopez have managed to mostly avoid the wall because 1). They have taken care of themselves physically, 2). They have amazing genetics, and 3). They have status, which women can leverage to a degree, if they are agreeable and non-combative, but not to the same degree that men can Their money does not matter to a Chad who has his own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:46 AM
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I will generally agree with this, I have seen a couple situations where this wasn't the case but the exception proves the rule.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 02:40 AM
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Well, when you buy access to a woman's body, but not her exclusivity; that's prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:28 AM
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Well, clear signs of wealth is a part of being a Chad. If you're asking; "Can he compete with a young, physically fit, man without money or status?" then the answer is; no, of course not. Money and status is the reason why men don't really hit the wall like women do. Yes, men kind of have a soft wall, but our wall can be overcome with money or status. Men in general are more willing to purchase attention, as providers; we are kind of expected to by society. Young men are less likely to pay for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:25 AM
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Men share women all the time, we just call it prostitution...
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 02:16 AM
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Men aren't above sharing women if we have to, we just call it "prostitution" instead of "poly".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:14 AM
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Having looks and nothing else, unless you're young enough to be in high school or college, only gets you a busted girl most of the time from what I've seen. If you want an 8/10 you're going to have to have money or status to go with it. That being said; money and/or status will get you an 8/10 by itself if you have enough of it. Your best bet is to shoot for looks and money, because money alone can put you in a betabucks position. That being said; you might also achieve status during the hustle,…
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 01:44 AM
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You can get that at a strip club, and you'll pay less for it...
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 01:36 AM
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I stand corrected, I suppose it is possible that Cher could have a couple Chads chasing her, however; I would say that Leos are much more common than Chers. As for whether or not they are relevant; I suppose that depends on how high you are aiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:54 PM
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Oh for sure, I'm not saying that they aren't rare, but I have seen a DJ in his 60s as well as a couple other old dudes who could tear it up. I definitely think that the wall exists for men as well but it's a little more of a soft wall as a man's wall can be somewhat overcome with money and/or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:47 PM
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You can find 50+ year old men in a regular night club.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:37 PM
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Then why can I give examples of 50+ year old Chads chasing 20 year olds but you can't give an example of those same Chads chasing 50 year olds? If the parameters are "so carefully narrowed so that I can never be wrong" then I shouldn't be able to point to men like Leonardo DiCaprio who only date women in their 20s but you should be able to point to a Leo who goes through old ladies like the real Leo goes through young ones, not because he can't attract the young ones, but because he doesn't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:35 PM
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No, there are true scotsmen, show me a 50+ year old woman, being sexually pursued by 3 or more 50+ year old men, who are all 6ft+, 230+lbs, with a BMI of 14% or lower, and at least $800k in a retirement fund. Very objective numbers, no room for subjectivity or untrue scotsmen. You'll be hard pressed to find it. However; I can easily point to 20 year old women being pursued by 3 or more 50+ year old men who fit that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:13 PM
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I've never seen a 50 year old single "Chad" hitting on a woman his own age. The 50 year old men that I see hitting on 50 year old women are out of shape and/or broke. The 50 year old men who have abs and a sizeable retirement fund, are either married; or going for the 20-30 year olds, from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:57 PM
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I agree with you on all points except a couple. 1). The wall is not a revenge fantasy, when was the last time you saw a 50 year old woman, in the club, surrounded by Chads? 2). Red pill isn't "toxic", it's truth, you could argue that the reality that we live in is toxic, and I would agree with you, but red pill is about protecting yourself from that toxicity but then gets painted as toxic by people looking to take advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:43 PM
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Explain Russell Brand, Charlie Sheen, Gene Simmons, etc..., etc..., etc... I guarantee you they aren't getting into long term committed relationships with these women. Hell; explain the local football captain for that matter... You can't tell me he's not boning virtually all of his female friends anytime he is single with maybe a few exceptions. I don't know why you're trying to deny that there is a class of men who most women want bad enough to fuck without securing commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:58 AM
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Then use time management like an adult and prioritize important friendships. What do you think I've been talking about this whole time? I just don't see why some women have a problem with men looking for, and classifying, sexual friendships as "important" when even you admit that it's harder for men to get laid than women. ("A lot of men could honestly get the same amount of attention as the average woman", the word "could" implying they don't now.) Why shouldn't we prioritize and make space for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 08:48 AM
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It's not about taking it more or less seriously, it's about having more or less time. For guys who get friendzoned, if we are easy to talk to; often every woman wants to be our "friend". We just don't have the time for that many friends. If we want to get laid; we have to keep the door revolving at all times. Also, I don't mean any offense when I say this; but it's easy to judge men for min-maxing our ability to get laid when you can just go down to the bar at any time and take home virtually an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:48 AM
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Relationships are transactional even between male-male and female-female friends. Why do you think we are a social species? We can all get more individually if we work together. I think that pretending that they aren't is a good way to both take advantage and get taken advantage of depending on your understanding of power dynamics. There is something very predatory the way most women try to be friends in my experience. As for buying them stuff; not me personally, but I have known other guys who …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:26 AM
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No actually, I don't know it, it's a very usual arrangement for a very specific type of man, which is part of my point when I say that a woman feels like she is better than a man who she friendzones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:14 AM
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It doesn't change anything, I just don't think I should have to deal with feeling bad or negative attitudes when I decide to re-claim my time, which is why I am trying to get some insight. Well, that also kind of assumes that I am interested in long term, committed, relationships, which; I would rather die first. I don't make it a part of how I see myself. It's a reminder of my insecurities because it makes me feel like a simp/male pick-me, and yeah, I guarantee that if I had rippling abs, 10 mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:08 AM
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I wouldn't call normalizing cutting contact when you get friendzoned "dwelling". I would say that cutting contact is probably the most extreme and fastest form of "moving on" that is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:36 PM
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I think that mindset makes more sense for women than it does for men. I think it's actually healthy for men to cut off women who friendzone them. From a female perspective; she might get friendzoned every once in a blue moon so she can afford to remain friends in those situations. Guys get friendzoned on the regular. Guys can't stay friends with women who friendzone them and keep dating for the same reason that a woman can't reply to everyone who messages her on dating apps. If a guy doesn't cut…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:29 PM
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But there is nothing wrong with deciding that a relationship just isn't worth your time anymore, even if the relationship IS clearly defined. It is possible for people to adjust their standards even in regards to friendships after the friendship has already formed. I cut off women that I had known for over a decade when I went red pill because I didn't feel like I was getting fair compensation for my time, energy, and resources, and there is nothing wrong with that. I did enjoy spending time wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:59 PM
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If sex cannot be part of the deal then what is a "friend with benefits"? Searching for friends who share your values isn't manipulation. It's just being selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 06:45 PM
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That sounds interesting but don't you don't feel like people perceive you as a being a "pick-me" for continuing to be his friend after he rejected you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:30 PM
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Sure, I think a big part of what I was getting at though was; should a man continue to subject himself to humiliation and destroy his confidence in order to maintain a friendship with a woman who, let's be real; probably thinks he has the "ick", just because it was offered if he doesn't feel like he is getting what he wants from the relationship and may actually be damaging to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:25 PM
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1). Who says he lied? Maybe he was courting her or the relationship hadn't been clearly defined yet. 2). Just because you want to be friends doesn't mean that you don't also want sex as part of the package and that it's not a deal breaker if you don't get it. I WANT to go to Six Flags but it's a deal breaker if all the rides are shut down. That doesn't mean that I don't want to go to Six Flags. It means that I want to go to Six Flags AND ride the rides and it also means that without the rides; i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:56 PM
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That's not true though. I have had many women from Tinder say "we can still be friends" and then go off the deep end when I say "no" after just meeting them. Plus, if a guy hasn't told you, outright, that he is not interested in dating you; he probably isn't trying to be your friend or deceptive, he's probably just be really bad at courting. If the nature of the relationship hasn't been clearly defined; you can't blame a guy for bailing once it gets defined in a way that he isn't comfortable wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:37 PM
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So; I understand why you would lose confidence from sleeping with a man who you aren't in a relationship with but I'm not sure if I understand why you wouldn't also lose your confidence remaining in a friendship with an element of unrequited love. In my mind; it is effectively the same thing. I would be just as humiliated by allowing myself to be friendzoned as I would be if I was knowingly paying a woman's bills who just wanted me for money. In my mind it's a matter of respecting yourself and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:26 PM
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I'm not sure if we necessarily agree on what the sexual marketplace is. To me; saying "I don't believe in the concept of a sexual marketplace." is saying that you don't believe in the concept of people looking for either sex or a relationship. I can guarantee you that at least 3 people are looking for either sex or a relationship somewhere in the world creating what is typically referred to as "the sexual marketplace", at least in the circles that I travel. Would you agree that; universally peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:29 AM
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There are other things more valuable than whether or not I find someone sexually appealing or physically attractive. Sexual Market Value (SMV) isn't JUST about physical attraction. It is referring to the demand for that type of person in the sexual marketplace in general, which also includes a person's ability to get married and have relationships. Placing your worth on how desirable you are to the opposite sex just doesn't seem a good way to measure your worth. I'm not talking about personal se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 11:16 PM
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I mean, I'm not saying that women don't have good reasons to be selective, just that men have equally good reasons for not allowing themselves to be friendzoned. Daily and nightly, and when you don’t go along with it, she resents you and makes your life stressful and difficult. If you're just friends; that's how you know that they don't respect you as a human being. If I asked my buddy to take me bowling; he probably would, if I kept demanding it every day and making his life difficult; he would…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:40 PM
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I think you're looking at it the wrong way, it's not that women aren't special, hell our entire civilization was built by men trying to impress women, it's that sex isn't special and men are desperate and have to make due with whatever we can get. We don't have the luxury of looking for someone special because 9/10 times we aren't going to get her even if our game is 100% on point. There is a woman who I would do anything for but she isn't into me so we haven't talked in probably close to 10 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:16 PM
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I have stopped announcing it, unless it's an IRL thing and I don't want them at my house anymore, then I am kind of forced to, but the initial reason was because I felt like I owed them an explanation as to why I just unfriended/blocked them and dipped that let them know there wasn't any hard feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:52 PM
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What way do I describe? I'm talking about sexual market value, not personal value. I've never described it any other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:43 PM
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I'm not talking about those guys. I'm talking about the ones like myself who simply say; "I do appreciate the offer but I am not currently looking for female friends. I wish you the best of luck in all your future endeavors." when being friendzoned and the women who go off the deep end at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:39 PM
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“I don’t feel the urge to put my tongue in his mouth or enjoy long conversations while cuddling” is the extent of a rejection. Sure, but what I am kind of poking at is WHY you don't feel the urge to put your tongue in his mouth unless you found the thought of doing so disgusting? She can’t even help it. I mean, can you force yourself to feel attraction for women you aren’t attracted to? Do you think less of women you don’t find attractive? No, but at the same time; I have literally never met a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:29 PM
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So you don't believe that people can be more or less attractive to the population as a whole in a general sense? How would you explain players and incels if nobody can be more or less attractive than another person?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:18 PM
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First and foremost I don't consider any person high or low value Would you say that some people are more or less attractive to the general population as a whole? That is what is meant by "high/low" value just replace "high/low value" with "generally attractive/unattractive". Just because he isn't getting sex doesn't mean he isn't getting anything. Sure, but what if a man doesn't want or care about what he can get from a female friendship? What if the juice isn't worth the squeeze? Is he a not en…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:12 PM
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Maybe not their personal value/self-worth but a rejection or non-rejection does necessarily involve making a quick subconscious judgment call on the other person's relative sexual market value compared to your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:03 PM
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So if they were the last man on earth you still wouldn't consider them after a couple dry years? I'm not sure if I necessarily buy that. Maybe it's true for you but certainly not for the majority of women barring any extreme circumstances like the dude being horribly disfigured or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:57 PM
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"Every woman here is telling you that is untrue." Not every woman, additionally; I don't even think the ones who do even realize they are making a value judgement or why it feels degrading to continue to associate with a woman who has judged you as "unworthy" or "not enough" from a sexual market value perspective. I think SMV really boils down to looks, money, and status. Charisma is really just a status symbol in my opinion but yes, it is important because status is important. You'll get no arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:52 PM
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I'm not convinced that I am a "lesser man". I am just convinced that is how I am viewed by most women who aren't attracted to me. There is a difference. Also, keep in mind; there is a difference between personal self-worth and SMV. If what you are saying is the case; why do 10% of men get 80% of women? You wouldn't expect to see that unless some men were more or less attractive than other men. There are very clearly some people who are just more attractive than others from my observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:29 PM
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Even if that is true (which I'm not quite willing to concede just yet) does it actually matter one way or the other if it's a value judgement or not? Since I quit spending my time on female friendships; I have started my own business that was actually incorporated, I was the Co-C.E.O and Board Chairman along with a couple of other less impressive titles, made and released a video game by myself creating all of my own code and game assets from scratch, started two other businesses that I haven't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:23 PM
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I get the allergy thing, although there is something about it that doesn't feel quite right that I can't quite put my finger on. That being said; aren't a lot of incompatibilities judgement calls though? For example, you say that you do not want someone who eats meat everyday, isn't that a judgment about people who eat meat?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:59 PM
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I don't think that I can name 5 women in my sphere who I haven't imagined having sex with period. I definitely agree that men are less picky when it comes to sex than women. I'm not sure if I understand how that negates the concept of leagues though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:46 PM
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I'm not saying it's personal, a person can't help what they feel, and attraction isn't a choice, but it is certainly based on a subconscious judgment about the other person. I'm not blaming women for passing judgment on men, men pass judgement on women too, I'm just pointing out that they do and how the overtness of a person's judgment can sour a friendship whether we mean for it to or not. I would say that the rejected party doesn't have any more choice but to feel insecure than the unattracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:42 PM
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Thank you for your response; would you agree that some people are more attractive than others to the general population? If so; replace the terms "high and low value" with "generally attractive/unattractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:22 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily call it an "assumption" more of an observation. I don't necessarily think that 10% of men attract 80% of women simply because they happen to be a "good fit" for each other. I think there are definitely factors that make people more or less desirable to the population as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:15 PM
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I don't agree, that more friends are always better, I believe that some friendships can be destructive or at the VERY least require maintenance that takes, time, energy, and resources away from other endeavors. I'm not sure what you mean by "those" men but if they are capable of that then; good on them. I suspect many men with female friends have been hooked into simping though which I and a lot of other men just don't have the time, energy, or resources for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:05 PM
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I don't think that is typically what men are doing. For example; I do not have any female friends. It has nothing to do with punishing anyone. It's more about protecting myself, my time, resources, energy, and my own confidence/sense of self worth. Additionally; no I don't interact with ANY woman in a non-professional setting who doesn't reciprocate interest in me, married/engaged or not. Between work and life; I just literally don't have time for people who can't offer me what I'm after. It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:44 PM
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Why, in your opinion; do many women get upset when low-value men do not want to remain friends after getting friendzoned?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:34 PM
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I would personally agree, I'm more concerned with why many women generally agree with and understand these sentiments but then get upset when a guy who has been friendzoned wants to cut contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:31 PM
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I'm not sure that I agree that the same logic applies here. I think that most people's list of what they look for in a partner is virtually the same. If your list doesn't generally approximate the rest of the population; it puts you more into a "human puzzle piece" paradigm than a traditional league-based dating strategy. There is nothing wrong with that, it just means that you're playing by slightly different rules than everyone else, which changes the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:24 PM
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That is kind of my suspicions on the matter too. My thoughts; is that these men are effectively backup plans for women who are concerned about not being able to attract a high-value man but I'm hoping to get more information before finalizing my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:18 PM
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I don't doubt that women seek out men who share their values, except pre-selection is a very real phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:17 PM
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Yes, but in the section where I was talking about cutting contact; I was referring to low value men. I think my entire post could probably be simplified to "Why is there a double standard when it comes to women's vs men's reactions to being rejected?" but I wanted to clarify exactly what I meant by that and open the OP up to a more detailed discussion, so; I might have gotten a little winded and confusing with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:13 PM
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That part makes sense, but then why do the same women often react poorly when that is the same reaction that men have to being rejected by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:07 PM
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Alrighty, I think I'm starting to see the issue here; I wouldn't say that you fit the traditional demographic that I was posing the question to. I don't think most women seek out virgin men. Lol That being said; I am still glad to receive your input on the issue!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:05 PM
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I'm not sure that I subscribe to the human puzzles pieces ideology. I think that most people virtually all want the same thing out of a partner, both men and women, with a couple minor exceptions here and there. Which is why 80% of women chase 10% of men and I don't think it's because 10% of men just happen to be good fits by random chance. I definitely feel like there are leagues, not just a map of some pieces that fit and some that don't. I think that rejection says "I can DO better" which imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:00 PM
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Yeah, it was a little bit of a survey, I just couldn't figure out a good way to get a robust enough explanation on this topic out of a single question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:52 PM
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You think that you could DO better, which is basically saying that you ARE better if we work under the assumption that everyone gets who they deserve. At least according to my understanding of how the sexual marketplace works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:48 PM
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I think that you might have misunderstood the question. The question that I was trying to get at was effectively; "Why do many women react poorly to being cut off by LOW-value men that they aren't interested in after they friendzone him?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:43 PM
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Sure, but we don't say it out loud and there is usually some ambiguity as to which of the two of us is better in a general sense otherwise there would be no competition, which is usually something that men look for in male-male friendships. When someone of the opposite gender rejects you; they are saying the quiet part out loud. I couldn't be friends with a male friend who I knew for a fact felt that they were better than me, even if it was true, but ESPECIALLY if it wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:32 PM
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You don't find it difficult to enjoy the company of someone who is a reminder of your insecurities? I mean, if not; then I envy you, but I don't think that is something that most people are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:19 PM
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That kind of supports my suspicions on the matter but I am trying to gather more data before making an informed decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:13 PM
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You make it sound like surviving on $50,000 a year is some impossible feat. There are plenty of people surviving on $10,000 a year. They do not have all the fancy things that a lot of modern women need but they make it work. About $30,000 a year is really all you NEED to take care of a family, especially if you're not living in an oil-rich tourism state like Texas. Housewives used to wash re-usable diapers in streams with washboards back in the day, try living like that and tell me it's not poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:22 PM
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Sorry to be the one to break it to you bud but the ladies like sex too, just not with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 10:03 AM
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Sorry not sorry but no... Sex is a normal, natural, and healthy activity that humans engage in. There is nothing wrong with people asking questions about it, especially in a group dedicated to gender specific questions in the context of relationships. There is no need to go off and whisper into some dark corner of the internet and hope that you get a response from whoever might be lurking there. I always get very strong snowflake vibes from the puritan crowd. I think the anti-sex people need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:02 AM
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18-29 Not Married No Children Any Race Any Height Not Obease Any Income 34% or "1/5 Red Pills" Way better than the >1% to 15% I see most women who take their test get. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:55 AM
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I think that most men just want men's issues, including men's reproductive issues; to be acknowledged by society and to be shown a little compassion, not for women to be open to every man's advances. I mean; legalizing prostitution would be a start but that would flood the sexual marketplace with supply and tank the sexual market value of all women so; it'll never happen because we care more about women being able to demand more and more from men than we care about a free market or the personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:19 AM
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Where is the place then? I think it's a perfectly valid question. The entire reason that the AF/BB mating strategy exists is because society doesn't allow young men to ask questions about female sexual attraction. So instead they end up getting all kinds of advice about working on themselves and focusing on their careers when what they NEED to be told is to hit the gym but we never allow them to ask those questions or give them honest and straight answers when they do anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 04:04 AM
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It's invasive if posed to an individual. Nothing wrong with asking a large group, people don't HAVE to answer if they aren't comfortable with the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:52 AM
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To be fair; there is a difference between something being a standard vs something being preferred. I know for a fact that size DOES matter. I wouldn't be surprised one bit to learn that most women prefer a man that produces a lot of semen, in the same way that I'm sure most guys would prefer a woman who drenches the bed. I wouldn't expect them to like to be covered in it because; evolutionary biology, but I could definitely see them wanting more cream in the pie so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:43 AM
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What happened to the gender pay gap? So somehow women are earning less and more than men at the same time? Seems like everytime feminists come up against opposition; the statistics suddenly shuffle themselves around to support whatever issue is on the feminist agenda today. "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." -Mark Twain
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:35 PM
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As someone who discovered it in their teens; it's not something that you can really fully understand or appreciate until you have had a few decades experience dealing with people anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:08 PM
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I think that people need to just grow thicker skin when it comes to the sexual remarks. It's just words, they aren't deadly, and some women like it. The following thing is absolutely a no-go assuming that she isn't trying to engage with them but when women are talking about being "harassed" by men, how many of them have ACTUALLY made it clear to the guy that they want to be left alone BEFORE the "harassment" started? Don't misunderstand me, I do believe that women are absolutely harassed more th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:18 PM
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Let me know when they make one pill or shot for men... Yes, it should be easier to get a hysterectomy, but women still have countless other non-invasive options that simply are not available to men. Then say no to the bad painful sex? You seem to think I give a fuck about having pity sex with women who think I'm bad at it or that my penis will somehow defile them. You're completely misunderstanding the situation. I'm not interested in getting a pity lay. If I ever want it THAT bad; I'll go hire …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:57 PM
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Most women are trash in bed too. I'm not pretending to be a player but I have a small n-count. I've only been with one woman who was actually good in bed. Only one woman was actually able to look at what was happening while engaging audibly, with intense facial expression, and then look me in the eye when she was begging for more. The rest mostly just laid there, some smiled, some didn't even bother to do that. The real reason that women don't enjoy sex is because they have unfettered access to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 09:17 AM
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Wanting women to acknowledge their privilege and expecting sex are not the same thing. Trust me, dicking down a woman who is expecting to be treated like a princess just because she bit the bullet and touched my supposedly vile and awful penis, is the last thing I want to do. Yeah, we all know that bad things only happen to women, except, when you include "forced to penetrate" as part of the definition of rape; men and women are about equally likely to rape and be raped. Which is kind of disgust…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:53 AM
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And I'll say something that may be it's a very unpopular opinión, but... What if women are the ones who want to actually CONTROL male sexuality, and not the other way around? It might be unpopular but in my experience, it's absolutely true. It's not just limited to our sexuality though. They want to control everything about us. Our minds, our speech, our bodies, our wallets. Literally every aspect of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:30 PM
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They are "better at paying the bills" because they sell their bodies or cry until simps/the government give them free shit. I wouldn't call that "better". I would call that cashing in on privilege or relying on handouts. Half? You think that's all they are taking these days? Ok, let's humor you and say half, here is the funny thing about percentages; if a man is worth $10 billion dollars is a glorified house keeper/nanny really worth $5 billion? Oh, right she ruined her body, I guess now she wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 09:44 PM
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I mean, you're doing good for yourself man, it's ok to admit it. Lol You put in the work and now you are reaping the benefits. There is pride and honor in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:44 PM
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No, my mom wasn't getting money from the government. My grandfather was and he had to support me, my grandmother, my mom, and himself on one check. Yeah, but typically you're not going to incorporate without a reason. Especially with the lawyer and annual fees. Still, 40k, that's nothing to shake a stick at. I'm not saying that anyone should be satisfied with that amount, but it's worth giving yourself a pat on the back over. Things were a little rougher for me growing up. Got in a lot of fights…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:39 PM
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I grew up in poverty too, single mom, living with her parents, no child support. She is the one who decided to get knocked up by a drug dealer and then keep the baby though. Still women abuse the system all the time, of course, I'm not really sure that you can call it "abuse" when the system is rigged in their favor at it's core. It's not as hard as you might think to become a C.E.O. man, I am Co-CEO and Board Chairman of my company. You just gotta get a lawyer and pay the taxes. 40K a year is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:08 PM
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Only men are valid or only men are capable of defiling another human being? I'm not sure if I see much of a difference in this case to be honest. It still boils down to "touching a penis is disgusting and corrosive".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:57 PM
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It's not just an issue of "use" though, it's specifically "use" by men. Dildos, strapons, buzzers, bozzers, and boombuzzles, you name it; it does not defile her, but sleep with one man, and she is "ruined forever". Even getting fingerbanged by another woman is considered less defiling than getting fingerbanged by a man. I very much think that it's more like our penises are seen as oozing trash poles attached to vile savages and anything that they touch is corrupted by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:44 PM
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I'm not sure how it's rooted in hate for women when we are the ones who are demonized as the unpure, predatory, defilers and anyone who cares about us enough to sleep with us is considered "defiled" whether they are male or female. A woman can be banged by 100 lesbians, but one man will "spoil" her virginity. From my perspective; it's very clearly an issue with the male form.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:34 PM
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I think most single women are living off the government/child support. Out of the ones who aren't living off the government; quite a few of them are, doing sex work, living in a house that they stole from their ex-husband in a divorce, or both. Then there is also just the standard; living with her parents. I wouldn't necessarily call that "having their shit figured out". It's a statistical fact that men are more likely to be C.E.O.s and executives. It does affect your dating life though. Just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:48 PM
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How many women do you think have their shit figured out? I'm not saying that anyone is entitled to sex but it doesn't at least bother you that you have to bribe women with the possibility of financial abundance to convince her to overlook your inherently "defiling" penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:32 PM
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Knowing that ANYONE, regardless of gender, has been fucked, by a man, ruins, or at least taints, attraction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:26 PM
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That is an attitude formed from a position of privilege. Firstly, men don't see women as sex toys. That is what women THINK that men do. What is actually happening is that men are trying to cope with a struggle that you have not and cannot experience and so sometimes these desperate men do desperate things. Is it right? No, but it has infinitely more to do with desperation than it does objectification. If anything; men are objectified by women when we are told that we don't feel emotion or when …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 08:45 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:41 AM
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Who said anything about being entitled? I'm just talking about not being harassed, judged, or shamed just because we are trying to find another consenting adult to help us meet a biological need, also, maybe don't fuck with the mutually beneficial coping mechanisms of a gender whose genitalia seems to inherently defile it's recipients in the eyes of society? Is that what male entitlement looks like to women? Privilege isn't about entitlement. Nobody is entitled to money but rich people are still…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:28 AM
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Sure, but, couldn't you say the same thing to women? Men don't want a high n-count women so just "deal with it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:25 AM
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Yeah, this makes a lot of sense too. So how would you explain Chad under this paradigm? Chad having more success with women than most women have with men would make him a very unstable partner. Is it his attractiveness simply overcoming his instability?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:46 AM
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Eye color isn't really a social construct though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:28 AM
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Technically, I think that your name is an identifier. Your identity would be a collection of identifiers that may include your name. Other identfiers may include hair color, eye color, etc..., etc... with the whole thing culminating in identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:25 AM
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I mean, personality may be a factor, but it's also about identity as well. An effeminate gay man is not a trans-woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:19 AM
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Well, I'm not sure that gender is being determined by sheer personality these days. I think that the modern viewpoint on gender is that it is a social construct and so you can pick your own. If you feel like a man, and you want to be a man, then you are a man. However I get the impression that what you might be talking about is being a tomboy/masculine woman. Which is different from being a transgender man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:14 AM
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I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to insult you. I was just curious how that worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:06 AM
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Maybe "issue" is the wrong word. I'm referring to your post 12 days ago in r/gender
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:58 PM
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Hmm, interesting, I couldn't help but notice your other posts, do you think that this complicates things given your gender fluidity issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:56 PM
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Would you say that women also participate in perpetuating this winner vs loser mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:22 PM
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Maybe just finding any girlfriend and joining some swingers club is the best way to do things Maybe, IF you can find a woman who will cooperate, I think that for me personally though; the damage is already done. Even if my n-count hit 100 tomorrow; I would still be an angry and bitter man. Lol To be fair; my jealousy over my ex's having a higher n-count than me caused some resentment that ended up significantly contributing to the destruction of our relationship. So I'm basically just ruined at …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:58 PM
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Well, if anyone who sexually satisfies a man is considered devalued by both genders, whether they are male or female, that sounds like an animosity towards men on first glance. Some of the other discussions are leading me to believe that it might be related to STD transmission as well which would mean that it's not necessarily a discrimination against men but a biological disadvantage significantly contributing to male sexual underprivilege. I think this poses an interesting question related to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:58 PM
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I literally lol'd... Also, very true... Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:48 PM
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I'm not sure if this is still a problem but I remember HIV possibly taking up to 7 years to show up on an STD test back in the early 2000s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:45 PM
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I would imagine that most high n-count women are having more than just vaginal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:43 PM
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What about switch bisexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:28 PM
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Makes sense, so I guess what you are saying is that men have an incredibly horrible biological disadvantage that significantly contributes to our status as a sexually underprivileged class.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:22 PM
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I'm not talking about normal straight hetero women though. I am talking about the straight hetero women who fall on the high end of the n-count distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:18 PM
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Straight hetero may be in between but not all straight hetero women are high n-count. A straight woman with a high n-count has similar rates of STD transmission as gay or bisexual men. For starters; a lot of the men that they are sleeping with are likely bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:14 PM
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I understand what you are saying, and it's all very true, I like how you framed it in terms of class warfare as this debate could be seen as a type of sexual class warfare. Fair enough, I can't put my finger on it but it does kind of feel wrong for an underprivileged class to have to rely on appealing to the sympathy of a privileged class. Like begging for crumbs. I think I personally would rather just shove it in their faces which would probably be a bad idea from a change perspective but I'm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:18 PM
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Yeah, it's probably the weed. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:56 PM
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I have a confession... I lied about my penis... It actually has negative length. Kind of like a turtle. It is a biological defense mechanism that my ancestors developed to protect ourselves from the large bands of maurading females typically associated with those regions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:39 PM
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Oh, that's not the weed, that's just my penis. Occasionally all the blood just rushes out of my head and causes incoherent babbling. They think a small rodent might have crawled inside of it and built a nest. My Doctors want me to have surgery but I ultimately decided that would be doing a disservice to women kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:32 PM
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Can I ask what exactly about my post is considered "trolling"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:05 PM
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Yeah, but dude can lie. You can never know for sure if he's into guys unless you catch him in the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:01 PM
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Yeah, I would say a woman could probably be exposed the same way, it just takes 1 guy from the gangbang in college to rat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:58 PM
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Yeah, but just because he likes it in the butt doesn't necessarily mean that he is into guys. A lot of straight dudes are into pegging.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:56 PM
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True but he could also just be into pegging and not necessarily into other dudes. Maybe he also experimented in high-school/college? I think that at the end of the day, you're still having to guess using this method which is the same thing a guy is doing when he finds a sex tape online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:54 PM
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Out of looks, money, and status; status is the most important when it comes to attracting women. Most guys will never be able to achieve status though, so red pill tends to focus more on muscles and money, but, becoming a well known actor is the most effective way to get laid, and obviously, these magazines are going to want the MOST attractive men with status, not a bunch of marines and firemen wearing expensive suits, even though those guys probably wouldn't have a problem getting laid, marine…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:08 AM
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Thanks, and about the bad painful sex thing; I wanted to clarify that what I actually do, and what I would like to do, are two different things. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 10:56 AM
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No! My weed!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 06:03 AM
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Using the word "literally" does not actually give your case any weight. You have to actually form a rebuttal that attacks my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:51 PM
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Fair point, however, I absolutely have fought against my own self interest and privilege on other issues, it just so happens that this particular one affects me. So in this case I feel that, the "we" does actually apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 09:07 PM
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You can absolutely hate the game when you are losing and its rigged against you. Sure, men probably would change positions if it was rigged in their favor, who wouldn't like a game rigged in their favor? I don't see how that changes anything. However, men are also capable of realizing when something is rigged in our favor and attempting to make things more equal as we have done in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 08:18 PM
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Well, the first thing to realize is that everything you just said was said from a position of sexual privilege. It's easy to talk shit about how men are coping with our situation and downplay the importance of sex when you have the peace of mind that you could put together a gangbang after a few hours on Tinder. The cold hard facts of the matter is that you cannot understand what it is like to not have access to sex on demand. Men do whatever they have to do to get laid and I don't blame them. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:31 PM
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Sure, but that is a mindset that needs to change in my opinion. Women ask us to have sympathy for their issues, even if we can't understand or relate to them, maybe we should also ask women to try to be more understanding of our issues and not just dismiss us out of hand because they don't face the same problems. I get that this isn't really realistic, especially since men are not really cared about in the same way by society, I'm speaking in terms of ideals, not really actionable plans. As for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:41 PM
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I'm not saying anything can be ethically done about it. Just that it's a serious problem that men face, we should acknowledge it as a serious problem that men face, and maybe stop some of the hate against males, especially cis-het males, who are actually an underprivileged class.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:28 PM
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and yet, I'm still completely unconvinced by your ad hominem attacks and demands for sources that were already given. They were really good ad hominems too. Alas, what can you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:02 PM
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Your comprehensive and well thought out take on this topic, along with all of the respect and consideration that it deserves, is duly noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:01 PM
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Maybe not with you, but that begs the question; why would I want to have sex with you? What exactly do I get out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:57 PM
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https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:54 PM
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Government funded sex dolls, full-dive VR accelerationism, subsidized sex work. I think that there are a few things that could help, but none of them are going to give the average dude the same kind of access to real women that the average woman has. I don't think female promiscuity is the REAL problem necessarily. I think the heart of the issue is female selectivity/hypergamy contrasted against beta men's limited sexual access. She leaves and he is left with his dick in his hand. The same reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:38 PM
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Oh! You got me, I don't think that I am ever going to recover from this one. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:05 PM
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I mean, yeah, I think we've found some common ground here. Lol The question is, what do we do about it? Is there even anything that we can morally do about it? Shouldn't we at LEAST recognize it as a form of privilege if nothing else?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:03 PM
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Is that your official diagnosis Dr.Cuck? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:58 PM
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Yeah, sure, just keep dodging with more ad hominem attacks. Maybe some fair lady will finally be impressed enough with your chivalry to come and suck the D. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:50 PM
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Well, luckily, I don't really give a fuck about feminism or it's simps. If I'm going to make someone a feminist by speaking truth; they were just looking for an excuse to hate men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:41 PM
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I don't get it, why is subsidized sex work a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 02:11 PM
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Yet, one doesn’t see men expressing anger often at these other men Because Chad earned his sexual access through hitting the gym every day, studying hard, working his ass off, and putting himself out there. Women get pseudo-Chad status just for existing. It's easy to understand why Chad gets more sex than Bob, dude earned it, but why does Stacy deserve sex more than Bob does? I think that is the reason for the anger, resentment, and animosity. who aren't really that advantaged at all I think it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:55 PM
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There is a large difference in the percentage of men and the percentage of women who report sexual harassment or assault from the opposite sex, I think. Sure, because men don't report, due to not being believed or taken seriously when we do, but when you do surveys, you find that women rape as frequently as men do, in spite of their access. Some studies have shown that women are even more likely to beat a partner who doesn't fight back. It's not that men abuse women more, it's that women are les…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 12:36 PM
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some people seem to being implying woman need to give up sex to make men happy and that is super creepy I imagine that does sound creepy to someone who could have a gangbang going tonight if she wanted to but most men do not have that luxury. The definition of rape was changed to exclude "forced to penetrate" and demonize men while women are almost equally likely to rape when you include "forced to penetrate" as part of the definition. All we are asking is that next time the gender who, for deca…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:36 AM
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I'm sorry, I'll be honest, this hasn't been a good week, month, or even year for me. It's very possible that I could be seeing hostility where it isn't intended. I'm not in a very good frame of mind at the moment. I stand by the core concepts behind what I said, but maybe I could have said them a bit nicer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:32 AM
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So, when given the option; I enthusiastically skip foreplay because I like anticipation? I skip to the good parts of porn videos, because I like waiting? My buddies don't deny that women can orgasm as an excuse to bust asap because they like twiddling their thumbs? Men tolerate anticipation because we are forced to. Women wouldn't judge so many of their experiences as bad if they weren't so desensitized to vanilla sex from having Chad spank their amygdalas out of their assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 07:26 AM
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So you want a guy who doesn't really want it? Sounds kinda rapey to me... Do you realize that right now I am picturing a sex connoisseur with years of experience in dick tasting who needs the most exquisite and complex flavors of whoopie to satisfy their expertly refined pallet? Thanks for proving my point about women taking their access for granted... Lol Women haven't "mastered" anything, anticipation is for women, not men, we don't need all that shit, have you considered that maybe most men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:52 AM
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I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:44 AM
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It is 110% female privilege, and yes, you should be absolutely furious when women who have 24/7 access to dick start shaming men for trying to get laid or protesting to ban porn. The only reason they don't value it and judge us for wanting it is because they take it for granted. Like people born into money judging people on food stamps. It's absolutely disgusting. Sex is necessary for most people to live happy lives. Modern psychology understands this. Don't let society trick you into believing …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:08 AM
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When you include "forced to penetrate" as part of the definition of rape; both genders are about equally likely to commit rape. Women are just as sexually voracious as men if not more so considering their access. The reason women "don't want sex" is because they have 24/7 access to dick and therefore take it for granted. It's not that they don't want to have sex, it's that they don't want to have sex with YOU, and why should they when they have 50 studs lined up behind you looking to get it in? …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 05:03 AM
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I am a man, and I can confirm that you are pretty much spot on but let's be clear here; we are talking about men with options, most women, intelligent or not, do not want an average man, and a man with options has put enough effort into himself that he deserves his pick of those options (the legal options anyway) without shame, ridicule, or needing to justify his choice. I mean, I'm not sure where women get the idea that intelligence or career are/should be attractive qualities to men. Money is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 10:35 AM
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Here is the deal, women already approach... They just bat WAY out of their league and then cry/get angry about how no man wants them. Kinda like a lot of fakecels do... In fact; I would say that the assumption that all, or even most, incels are fakecels, is usually either established from parroting someone else or from just straight up projection. It does raise an interesting question about how women are able to know so much about a group of people whom they rarely interact with. Fakecels are ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 04:55 AM
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It's actually more about being non-reactive than reactive. Which comes from a sense of security that typically happens when you own the venue that you're in or when you have the money to buy it if they try to kick you out. It's an inner peace of mind that comes with knowing that you are going to be ok no matter what. Why? Because you have looks, money, and/or status which translates to power. That or you're effectively "faking" it, but you're right, it's not really something that you fake, just …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 12:08 AM
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It's not a good mindset to date with at all. It's better than the alternative. When dating; you're dealing with the female variant of the most dangerous animal on the planet, humans. One would be wise to respect that fact. You wouldn't approach a female lion without taking the proper precautions just because it was female. I'm not saying "don't do it" but I am saying; know the risks. Your experience and answers aren't doing a lot to sell me on the idea you have any idea of what you're talking ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:59 PM
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Genuinely asking, how has that worked for you so far? I PERSONALLY don't date because I don't feel it's worth the risk in western society with marriage/custody/child support laws being what they are but lots of other people do and there is nothing wrong with that. The important thing to understand though is that a blue pill paradigm would be even worse. It wouldn't help me find love. As you said yourself; it would make me vulnerable. Vulnerable to sociopaths/narcissists. That's kind of the entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:40 PM
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If you truly believe humans are so selfish and cruel, there's honestly no point in dating. I don't agree. No, you probably won't get that blue pill Freudian Divine-Mother fantasy, but you can still find mutually beneficial companionship, you both just have to acknowledge that the other one is a bit of a rascal. At the end of the day it's a lot more honest of a relationship as well. That's not what I asked. I asked if you believed they should do the same things you advocate for men for the same r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:50 PM
1

You need to stop viewing the other gender as an enemy Can a person not acknowledge that people, not just women, are inherently self interested and that altruism doesn't exist without making an enemy out of an entire gender? Well... Maybe not in 2022... Lol Do you believe women should do the same? Sleep around until they're ready to settle down? That's basically what most of them do isn't it? They have 24/7 access to countless assortments of dick... You don't think that they aren't taking advanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:33 PM
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People who like it too will join in. Join in, maybe, but love, respect, and date you? Depends on what you're showcasing. Especially if you're not willing to take the first abusive/manipulative individual who shows some interest. How much time you have to dedicate to dating is another factor as well. I don't think you should need to spin plates to realize that women are normal people. Not everyone but some people have to learn the hard way. Best way to do that is to spin plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:32 AM
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True, but you have to be comfortable with the idea of dying alone to successfully pull that off without being abused or taken advantage of which can be a tricky prospect for many people because it's very possible that one could die alone or be taken advantage of practicing this philosophy, especially if one is desperate for companionship. I think every guy should spin plates for awhile and really get it in his head that women are not these Freudian Divine-Mothers to be pedestalized and worshippe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:16 AM
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I agree with basically everything you said. I will also agree that most people don't care right away, but give things a few months and they are going to start subconsciously asking "Where is that big thing I was promised?". That is why PUAs are notoriously bad at maintaining long term relationships. They create an expectation that gets them in the door but then gets them into trouble later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:00 AM
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Social skills are easy when everyone just gives you the frame, or even defends your frame, due to people being afraid of offending you/wanting to suck up to you, because of your looks, money, and status... Ultimately that's all social skills are when you really think about it... They are the ability to successfully telegraph that you have something desirable and be believed... It's salesmanship, like any other mating ritual, except instead of horns or feathers; we show off our social status. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:27 PM
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If Harry Styles was homeless; nobody would give him the time of day. That's why men like Tate are used as examples in the Red Pill community. Not because being an asshole is the only, or even most effective, way to get laid (although it can trick some young and nieve women into thinking that you have something big to offer), but because it shines a light on the fact that looks, money, and status are way more important than being nice or respectful in a world where young boys are taught that bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:14 AM
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Well, to be fair, while I used to see them all the time; I think that society as a whole has become more receptive to men's issues since around the time of the Johnny Depp trial, including this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:42 PM
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Yeah, because men are the only ones who have problems with being disrespectful. I can't help but notice that I never see these type of comments on the posts calling all/most men rapists/pedophiles/domestic abusers...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 09:07 PM
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So most people are still meeting in bars in 2022? The reason blue pill dismisses OLD and OLD statistics as not "real" dating is because being able to keep a record contradicts their narrative. The truth is that this was always suspected by the PUA/Red Pill community back in the 90s, way before OLD apps verified what we already knew, but it doesn't even matter anyway anymore because most modern dating is done online whether we like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:58 AM
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I can't find the exact article/study that references 150% but here is an article talking about the same phenomenon. https://ifstudies.org/blog/better-educated-women-still-prefer-higher-earning-husbands#:~:text=You%20found%20that%20despite%20advancements,more%20educated%20than%20their%20husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:46 PM
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I think that most red pill men, including the ones on this sub; acknowledge the existence of NAWALTS but I'm not talking about a small minority of the female population. I am talking about the MAJORITY of women. If you do a poll, with a large enough sample size; you will find that the MAJORITY have a minimum height standard of 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:40 PM
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On average women marry at 150% of their own income. Anecdotally I can tell you that I have met countless broke women who "won't date a broke man". I think that most men could understand if women wanted equality in dating. It's the hypergamy that turns us away from long term commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:15 PM
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If by "basically" you mean to exclude 80% of all men then... Sure? I mean, do you guys even realize what percentage of men are 6'+? 14.5% of the U.S. male population. Then most women want at least some combination of money, muscles, and status on top of that? Yeah... Chads are totally everywhere. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 09:54 PM
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Since when are incels capable of cheating or even sleeping with women for that matter? Their name means "involuntary celibate". I think you are referring to fakecels. Even then, most fakecels are not players, just douchbags. I mean, sure, a lot of incels probably hate women to some degree but we are talking about "sexually available" men or maybe I should more accurately say "men with a high degree of sexual activity" which I didn't originally do for the sake of politeness and brevity, hence the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:53 PM
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