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Grown ups don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:50 AM
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I genuinely lolled. Absolute rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:21 AM
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They would if they got on with the woman really well, clicked, life goals aligned and had amazing sex, and had an equality mindset. Even asking "n count" would be a huuuuge red flag. Lots of men aren't sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:52 PM
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I play mostly paradox grand strategy, before I discovered EU4 I played civ, going all the way back to civ 1. Also lived the witcher 3 and horizon z d. Most of my female friends don't play, they just aren't interested. I have no idea why, they just aren't interested even if they did have the time. I don't know if it's related but I have a lot of testosterone, (I know this because PCOS) and a very male outlook and sense of humour, also quite high sex drive, so I suspect the answer is connected to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 01:51 PM
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Agree, and I hate it when ppl on reddit equate coercion with rape. Its not rape, you coerced them into consenting. Shitty behaviour but not rape because they did consent. And I hate when people in relationships get too lazy to have sex, I'm a woman who has dealt with that and it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 06:37 AM
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Ah OK. That is pretty grim but will defo get you far I n Asia. If its a poorer country they probably are after a visa, but I think if I was a full on incel I'd accept that fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/20 06:39 AM
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I used to live in Japan, second this. I've been slated for giving this advice but I'm female and see nothing wrong with it. The women over there just really want a western husband 🤷🏼‍♀️ Edit to say don't know what JBW game is, hope it's not grim
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 06:06 AM
1

Agree, I think most non RPers and non incels are here for entertainment. I love picking apart their ridiculous non-logic. Also am bored housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 06:02 AM
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Everyone's talking about how important women's looks are to men for attraction. It's more than that, even when you are happily married, it's important to everyone. As a woman, you get more respect from everyone the better looking/ better well put together you look, by orders of magnitude. To be fat and ugly is somewhat to be an invisible, complete failure to a greater extent than it is for men. To be smart and good looking as a woman is to be... Liked. I don't like it, but I think that's how it …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 06:24 AM
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I think it is genital mutilation and totally unacceptable. I couldnt believe it when I found out most Americans mutilate their sons dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 04:47 PM
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I'm female and find this weird too. I'm a bit taller than average height and like most people I seem to prefer men at least my height. Short women are so lucky, they get all the men to choose from, they can still find a guy taller than them and if he's shorter than average he'll probably be really grateful! It baffles me when short women insist on 6 foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 01:21 PM
2

I've noticed the opposite, as soon as anyone talks about women who aren't virgins or enjoy sex, the conversation turns to them being sluts/ Town bicycles/ hundreds of dicks/ thousand cock stare. Works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:09 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 12:19 PM
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Rep Pillers always break out the slurs at this stage in these debates-- whore, slut etc. They are nonsense terms and so subjective-- in some cases it means they've slept with 3 people, all the way up to actual prostitutes. It's really unhelpful, when we are just debating whether normal casual sex is OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:25 PM
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Bingo. They want to divide women into Madonnas and whores whereas for themselves they get to have different things at different stages of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:22 PM
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Hmm, I'd say men are born with inherant value, more than women in most cultures around the world, lots of places where sons are preferable to daughters, to almost equal in the west. I think you have a point though in that men have further to fall, if you are a toxic, pathetic male you are fairly reviled, whereas toxic pathetic women can still get sympathy, a family more easily even without a partner, etc. I suspect most men on here making statements like OP's are incredibly toxic and pathetic wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:59 AM
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I know someone like this. He has a lovely personality and looks ok but just... I don't fancy him and I think others feel the same. He thinks it's his height and I think that is a big part of it. Your 4 points are so specific it would really just depend on the person and who they were mixing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 07:53 PM
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I feel you're avoiding the point of the OP in terms of what Red Pillers want. Is the goal still men getting casual sex, or is it now "we hate women having casual sex." You clearly don't like women having casual sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:40 PM
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Having casual sex while young does not lower anyone's value- its all in your head. If you decided that casual sex was A-OK and then getting married after that was also OK, (as is the case for most people) then no objective harm would be done. So again... Would you rather see casual sex banned or continue for it to be A-OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 04:56 PM
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This kind of viewpoint is the crux of the matter. The average person has casual sex while young then settles down later. I'm genuinely curious as you have the mindset this question is aimed at. Would you prefer casual sex to be banned? Secondary question, you are clearly against women who have had casual sex, do you believe that men who have casual sex while young should not be able to settle down later?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:33 PM
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It is pretty equal until children come along, then the equality all goes to shit. In work, in the home. It's not something you can understand until you go through it. It affects childless women too because it leads to fewer women in higher up positions. Things are better for women now than they have ever been, but we are far from equality. For every axe MRAs like to grind there are 10 advantages men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:51 PM
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Equal now HAHAHAHAHA Try having kids and a job as a woman and see how equal things are, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:36 PM
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Never heard of that, and I have no idea what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:48 PM
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Go ahead!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:46 PM
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Not reaching for forebears, where on earth was that indicated? Oh let me guess "feminism isn't about equality its about women hating men blah de blah"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 05:46 PM
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It's not motte and Bailey when you're using a dictionary definition. OP didn't mention radical nutcase feminists and neither did the comment I responded to, so it's safe to assume we are talking about garden variety feminists who want equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:40 AM
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I don't get it, do they wish they didn't have the vote and equal rights after a year? I haven't met anyone who didn't believe in those things, can't imagine someone not wanting equality any more. Also they aren't radical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 04:31 AM
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Funny, I never thought of OLD as being a casual sex thing. I used it to find a partner. Tinder is, but it's awful and I think most sane women leave it after about a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 07:13 PM
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You never mentioned casual sex in the OP, what are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:43 PM
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Maybe real life before the Internet when similar amounts of people from both sexes got married?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:33 PM
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You mean some people have sex with more than one person in their lifetime! Shocking! You must be clutching your pearls so hard!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:34 AM
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OP never mentioned sluts. WTF is a slut anyway, just a misogynist term for woman who has had sex. It's very telling. And why the fuck would anyone like 'strange weiners' and not sex? Can you genuinely picture such a person in the real world? I can't, it makes zero sense. Also not related to OP as he didn't distinguish whether she enjoyed the 'wild sex' or not. But it's actually safe to assume someone who had wild sex enjoys sex. That strange weiners comment will have me laughing all day, you peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:57 AM
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Ah so red pill is all about virginal pure men seeking virginal pure wives! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:43 AM
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There was no mention of prostitution, just wild sex. It seems guys on here can't decide whether they want someone who enjoys sex or someone who doesn't which I would expect to lead to dead bedroom. Unless they are not into sex themselves in which case it would make sense but that isn't very red pill... Or they are hypocrites who want wild sex before settling down themselves but think women should deprive themselves because... They're hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:41 AM
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People change. Maybe the wild sex wasn't really them and they found that being a monogamous home body or whatever is? I agree they should be able to be honest and it shouldn't matter, but you said yourself some guys aren't reasonable and understanding about it. Big red flag on HIS part but I guess if she likes the guy anyway she's overlooking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 06:20 AM
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Well duh. But also, there's a lot more to it than how hot he is. It's about chemistry, and reading the situation. If that part is off, then any flirting is a bit yuk. Also, hot is totally different to different people. I'd find a lanky nerd type hot, a buff alpha type pretty creepy. But obviously attraction is relevant the whether flirting goes well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 07:27 AM
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My allotment, its like meditation. Also strategy games, currently Tropico 6 and Surviving Mars.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 06:40 AM
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I agree with what you say, people date on their level. It really doesn't contradict what I said at all. You're kind of contradicting yourself when you said guys don't have options- clearly they do, on their own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:47 PM
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So you would just date and marry someone you don't have any feelings for or attraction to? I disagree, all the men I know only date women they have some sort of connection with. And they all have relationships from time to time. Similarly I've hot gorgeous, intelligent female friends who were looking for a boyfriend for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:43 AM
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Wow, you're do spot on! I deleted tinder a day or two after getting it, it was so pointless how could you possibly choose off looks alone? I was firmly in camp three.... I'm 30 with PCOS and want a boyfriend which will lead to kids ASAP. It was a necessary hell, and yes it worked. Couldn't wait to be done with it, hope I never have to do it again!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:24 AM
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Meh, yes it's easy to get dates for women in OLD but it's still a living hell we want to get over with as quickly as possible for most. I hate being single so I went on lots of dates when I was doing it, but for all the investment, about 90% of the time you walk in and realise within 10 seconds that you don't fancy them. Then out of the ones you do fancy you don't click, or you have sex and it isn't great... It's a drag we are just looking for someone we love so we can get the hell off online da…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:16 AM
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Iike most other responses, this hasn't been my experience, I guess I "looks match" in both situations and haven't really been hit on by modellesque guys- they're going for modellesque girls. It's funny, there was a similar post the other way round recently, asserting that your assertion isn't the case, and the Red Pillers couldn't wrap their heads around it. Women were saying it isn't that easy to pull super hot guys if you aren't super hot, the only responses I got were saying "OLD is a lot har…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 09:15 AM
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This. I find myself constantly referring back to the OP when some people just seem to have an axe to grind on a vaguely related topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:45 PM
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Lol, backed into a corner so you call us both ugly. Triggered so you call me triggered. I calmly agreed with OP, you're the one having a tantrum! PPD is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:42 PM
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Thankyou! Finally someone willing to admit that OP has a point! Wasn't so hard was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:40 PM
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You forgot 5. Absolutely no desire to go and ask random men for sex. 6. Absolutely no desire to have sex with random men off the street. As in every other response I've had, this doesn't really relate to the OP. She wasn't talking about whether we can get sex by walking around propositioning rando's. Obviously nobody wants that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:16 PM
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Never mentioned ugly women, I specifically said average, never mentioned "locking Chad down, " I specifically said sex. I've lost count of the times guys on here have argued that women can go out and get sex 7 days a week any time they want. It's not true in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:36 PM
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I never said women don't have an easy time online dating, that isn't the OP. I'm agreeing that there isn't this never ending Chad sex buffet available for all women whenever we want it, which guys argue is the case here all the time. Is this why guys are acting so butthurt on this thread? Because they misunderstood the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:23 PM
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How so? I agree with OP. Out of interest what are you getting at? Are you another bloke complaining that he can't get any dates online is that the gist of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:37 AM
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Meh, OK I'll spell it out. The post is about it not being as easy for average women to get sex with good looking men as PPD and the manosphere in general make out. You hijacked the discussion with your own grievances about what OLD is like for average men, as if that doesn't get enough airtime, and is irrelevant to the discussion. I hope this helps in the future, sometimes when you get upset or confused or triggered it might help to check what the OP is about? You're welcome! Now get off sexist …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 10:44 AM
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Read the title
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:57 AM
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Totally irrelevant answer. I know women have it easier in OLD, we aren't debating that. We aren't talking about average guys, though I'm sure truly average can get dates. Stop grinding your axe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:09 AM
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Or maybe she's telling the truth! The never ending sex buffet for women is a total lie. I'm pretty average to above average, when I was online dating I'd go on about one date a week, always around my attractiveness, and most of the time we just didn't click. Probably led to sex about 1/8th of the time and I don't think I was ever approached by a 'chad' male model or anything close. I'm in the UK, can't imagine things are that different here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:37 AM
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I agree if it was some poor country and you're trafficking them or something. Not the case in Japan or Korea though, if advise any kid of mine to live there for a while, it's a blast!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:34 PM
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What nonsense. Japanese women seem to really fancy, and want to marry, western guys. Not objectifying at all, in fact I think you are the one objectifying those women and denying them any agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 10:43 AM
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It isn't. When I lived in Japan, any Western guy could find a girlfriend, they were throwing themselves at even ugly Western guys. They just seem to find westerners attractive and desirable for various reasons. Why do you think it's sexist and misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:34 PM
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I strongly disagree with your assertion, I have a lot of sympathy for men who struggle with women and can't get sex. (despise sexists and misogynists though and there are a lot of them here.) If one of my sons was struggling, my advice would be tailored to what his problem was personally. Obviously getting fit, healthy, well groomed, if it was social or psychological I'd be advising to say yes to every opportunity to socialise and have healthy hobbies and so on. There are so many reasons and eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 07:40 PM
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I fancied some douchebags as a teen. Definitely would not fancy them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 02:32 AM
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This hasn't been my experience at all. Like the comment you're replying to, me and the women I know looked for a man we got along with to be our partner. Sometimes we went months and years without sex because we didn't meet anyone we liked. Never met a 'simp.'
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 07:08 AM
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I find it hard to believe that amyo E would grow up blind to the fact that looks matter. Did you honestly never think about some girls bring better looking than others? Do you think they didn't think about how they looked? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:42 PM
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We carry the heritage of Christianity telling us we shouldn't want sex, shouldn't have sex and basically slut shaming anyone who even has a sexual thought. We have all had to overcome that so it pisses us off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 06:25 AM
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So what if it does? No biggie, stay together for companionship, maybe split and find someone else, you know, it's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:15 AM
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Absolutely, to a nice, mentally healthy woman who he loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:26 AM
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Lol yes so obtuse of us to provide evidence that RP's petty revenge fantasy is a load of b******t. Well, it's not like you were ever going to admit you were wrong goodbye!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:03 PM
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Intentionally choosing to sleep around until 30's then wanting to settle down, as you actually quoted, is different to having some relationships that didn't work out with a few flings in between. Yes they could both lead to a high N count. Try re-read ing the OP again, the difference between the two is the entire point, it isn't rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:32 PM
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You just directly contradicted yourself! "wasted their young years jumping on dicks," absolutely suggests women choosing CC over marriage, as opposed to OP's accurate assertion that most people just have relationships, sometimes they don't work out, they have casual sex between relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:59 PM
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High n count has NOTHING to do with OP's post....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:54 PM
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Totally agree. Everyone Ive known has been in relationships, with some ONS etc in between when they don't work out. I think the difference is we don't attach importance to those casual shags, whereas the wannabe alphas of the red pill see casual sex as the pinnacle of achievement in their life. They are jealous we are having it and not with them, hence these CC and ruined women fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:52 PM
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It's just prostitution, nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:25 PM
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I'd give anything for narrow hips. Being wide set sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 04:19 PM
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I'm female, I agree actually. It makes sense, if you're falling in love and settling down you're going to be looking for all sorts of attributes, if these are there you will love the way they look as long as they look OK, whereas a ONS they have to be good looking, charismatic, not creepy but not an amazing all round person either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:02 AM
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What ridiculous drivel, there is more to life and relationships than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:55 AM
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Is this real? Of course personality matters beyond looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 01:09 PM
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A pair of 18 yo's are dumb together. At that age, the age gap has a power imbalance compared to a guy her own sort of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 04:22 AM
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Yeah I think that harks back to RPs golden age of 50s culture, not so taboo now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 04:55 AM
2

Do what? Again, your comment doesn't relate to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 07:13 PM
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Well I'm 37 with a partner and 3 kids, enjoying equality, and the idea that I don't know the implications of it is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 07:12 PM
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Hahaha thanks for the actual lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 04:22 PM
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I don't really see the relevance, TRP constantly rates women as inferior/ childlike/ shallow/ disloyal/ no honour. You are referring to dating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 03:01 PM
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Lol, suuuuuuuure
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:49 PM
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I think the fact he didn't really see women as equals would be apparent very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 02:16 PM
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I don't know anyone who thinks like that, none of my friends do. We all just looked for love. Obviously some loser who never works at all wouldn't be very attractive. My partner was between jobs when we met, it didn't matter. Having said that, I'm in the UK, free healthcare so maybe it fundamentally matters to people more in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 10:25 PM
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With good communication you can work out what's fair, it varies depending in the house and children. Running a house with young kids is far more than 9-5, so while I'm happy to do most of the work while on maternity leave, I ask my SO to do a little on weekdays, maybe just get one of them washed in the morning or help with their breakfast while I have a wash, then we sort one child each at bedtime. Weekends should be closer to 50/50. Doing everything while he lies on the couch in his non work ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 06:38 AM
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Fair enough. Just shocked by the casual admission of cheating by someone in a seemingly decent relationship, when the men on here are always on their high horse about women cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:00 PM
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Whoa scumbag!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:04 PM
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I disagree about tinder being the same as other spps, that wasn't my experience. I didn't like tinder because it was only about looks, so I didn't use it. A lot of guys look OK but it depends on the personality, so it was a completely different experience to something like OK cupid where I met my fella. I am put off by guys who look too good looking, I see no point punching above my weight. I'm female, and I met my partner on OK cupid after I sent him a message. That's not to say he isn't good l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 05:16 AM
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Well, I don't think any "blue pillers" frame themselves that way, it just encompasses anything and everything that isn't red pill. For us we just spend a little part of our day laughing at sexist idiots, that's our only key similarity. Blue pill didn't make us not sexist, we weren't sexist to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 05:32 AM
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Imo, red pillers are flat earth, anti-vacc, trump supporter level idiots and I reserve the right to laugh at the stupid things theý say. Especially as I happen to be female and the tripe they come out with is ostensibly about me. The BP sub exists to laugh at RP dickheads and point out their obvious hypocrisy etc. Imagine if BP didn't exist, and normal people read that stuff without a gang of people picking apart why ut is stupid. You have to laugh or it would be deeply disturbing to be the vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 09:38 PM
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Nah, we say that when they spout hate and prejudice filled bile then deny logic like they're brainwashed. It's been said thousands of times on here but Noone has a problem with self improvement or success at dating...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 06:10 PM
0

This should be the top comment, spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 06:05 PM
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Meh, falling into a cult based on hate and prejudice is hardly the same as trying to improve yourself. Nazis etc deserve all the piss taking they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 06:02 PM
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Maybe they are interested but are not 100% sure yet. I think it would be rare to actually be 100% sure at that point. Maybe they are enjoying themselves and want to keep drinking and talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 08:46 PM
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I think what you're saying is within 'poor character,' and I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 06:51 AM
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In the cases I knew about with friends, the dads were really far gone abusive narcs or drunk driving child endangerers. Both mums tried and tried until it just became too dangerous and harmful for them to see their dads. Both dads no doubt cried "waah she won't let me see them for no reason!" There will undoubtedly be some selfish narc mothers too though playing power trips on their exes. Does your friend have red pill tendencies?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 05:29 AM
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Yeah, sounds like they're trying to politely nope out as quick as they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:08 PM
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I really think the next step for gender equality is for it to become acceptable for all parents to drop to part time. Instead of women dropping to two or three days, if most parents could drop to four days it would lead to increased equality in the home and workplace, divorce courts, all aspects of life. This would also redress the problems you are talking about, which seem to stem from fathers being the main breadwinners- most women without kids work full time and it's only because of the way c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 02:13 AM
1

Never heard anyone insist on that, I'm a 36yo female.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:45 AM
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Didn't you learn any history at school? Women have been oppressed throughout history into the present day. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 02:09 PM
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Yes I have Yes and I did Nope Online dating gives you more introductions, but it's a demoralising slog, even for feeemales like me. All the effort of going on a date, when 19 times out of 20 you walk in and realise there will be no connection within 10 seconds. I don't think the grass is greener, I shudder at the thought of going through all that again. I'll grant you, it's marginally better than the old days when it was harder to meet anyone at all, but that slog is no fun. Its not particularly…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:28 PM
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You will never admit you're wrong, even when it's your own words contradicting yourself. At least it's all there for you to read in if your mental health improves. Peace out, I'll not interact with you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:28 PM
1

Top notch hampstering there, bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:34 PM
1

That you contradicted yourself, in black and white. That women do enjoy sex, when it suits the hateful narrative you are pedalling, yet in others you claim that they dont. It's in black and white in this very thread, nothing more to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:35 PM
1

Nah, you definitely said fuck and have fun with. Scroll back instead of backpedal!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:27 PM
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You wrote women compartmentalise men into one's they would fuck and have fun with etc... At least be consistent in your toxic misogynistic fantasy land!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:01 PM
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AHA Kapow troll, you contradict yourself! You're always saying how women have no sex drive and only use sex to get stuff of men etc, yet in this post you admit we sometimes fuck for fun? Which is it? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:24 AM
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I think they want to compartmentalise us into groups of suppressed virginal wives and ruined sluts who fuck them, whereas they get to be complex whole people who enjoy casual sex in their youth then get married one day and enjoy family life. Obviously men and women can both be complex whole people who do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 09:39 AM
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I agree with your points, consent is nuanced. RP attitudes MAKE IT WORSE. It's interesting seeing RP discuss this, because in my experience of coming of age as a woman before the Internet was there to say it's ok to be female and sexually empowered, it's the RP attitude that causes this murkyness. Hear me out. RP guys like to slut shame and have a judgey suspicion of women who are willing to have sex. It's because of not wanting to be judged as a 'slut' that it can feel damn near impossible to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:50 AM
1

Ding ding we found the nutter!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:41 AM
1

I'm sexually liberated but not one of your 'reasons' applies to me. Total strawwoman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 12:55 PM
1

Out of interest, how much is 'a lot?' Are women allowed sex, say 4 times a year? Why is repressing our sex drive so wonderful? And do you also repress your own at the same time? Is it more acceptable if women have more sex with fewer men? Do you adjust for attractiveness, ie a less attractive woman can't get as much sex but may be more slutty... It really doesn't make sense to me. I haven't slept with loads but I bloody well would have done if I was skinny and gorgeous in my twenties. Obviously …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:52 AM
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This makes no sense. I'm in my 30's, my teenaged self was an idiot. You have to experiment and make mistakes to learn from them, also teens brains are still developing. Of course we are making more informed choices later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 07:43 AM
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I think it should be a legal part of all marriage, which has legal implications mist people overlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 08:54 PM
1

They tend to find a partner eventually, one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 07:23 AM
2

Yep. Semi regular parties are a nice idea even when you're not single. I always have one every year around my birthday, with busy schedules and stuff it's just nice to get everyone together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:11 AM
2

Very good. Makes me wonder if you've met a few men who fell a little short of those fairly attainable standards, there's certainly a lot of them about! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:27 AM
2

Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:15 AM
4

Firstly, when I was dating (I'm female) my strategy was pretty similar to what you described, except that I didn't hit on people in public- the one or two times I tried that in my life, just asking for a guy's number after a chat and a laugh, I think they were just surprised and weirded out, we don't do that so much here in the UK anyway. My only slight critique is, you also haven't taken into account women's sexual needs. It was rare enough anyway to meet someone I wanted to do it with at all, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 04:35 AM
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... £200 really isn't that much though, is it? He can still live his life. You can bet the mum is using all of her own money to house, clothe and feed that child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:58 PM
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Who gets married? People! Shitty, fucked up marriages are sexless. The rest of us are PEOPLE who have sex. I could believe the majority of red pill marriages are sexless, because one of them is a toxic douchebag who repels his wife. To bring it back to my original comment, Im pretty sure a desperate virgin who goes abroad for an economically motivayed wife will get more sex than the zero they were getting before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 02:56 PM
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"vast majority." buuuuullshit. The vast majority of people enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 12:41 PM
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What I have learned from the red pill is that there is a magical place on the Internet where I can see right into the tiny minds of the most insecure, pathetic misogynists in the Western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 06:06 AM
3

Totally agree about the oral orgasms, but one after the other would be the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 09:26 AM
1

I have a high sex drive and crave the sex, but I also miss having a special person who I am that close and intimate with, yes attachment. Its not about feeling less desirable, I don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 07:27 AM
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I'm female and I couldn't. When I was single I felt lonely despite an active social life, and without sex my hormones get all messed up. Tbh it's kept me going back to relationships I should have left in the past, so not entirely healthy. I think sex is a human need, obviously higher on maslows scale of needs than the basics, but a need none the less. We evolved that way. Those going without, need to diet, excescise, have counselling, work on themselves. If all else fails as a western guy go to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 06:10 AM
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Nope. There is no substitute for a tongue ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 07:20 PM
3

I do naturally seem to find taller men more attractive. Its the way it is for me. I'm my online dating days I went out with some blokes my own height, I just didn't feel that attraction. I imagine it would be different getting to know someone slowly in the real world though and falling for them over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 06:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure they do...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:28 AM
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It's a normie thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:27 AM
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Most people. Normal people care about children's wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:20 PM
2

Said in the same breath as denying child support! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:17 PM
1

Thus would cause more, and bigger, problems for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 09:16 PM
2

Sounds like a wonderful outcome, you're right no problem /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:10 PM
6

What problem is solved? The kid is starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:34 AM
1

Lol, I had a similar exchange with this clown a few weeks ago. Cut your losses!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:30 AM
1

What a grim world you want to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:22 PM
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You see nothing wrong with human misery?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:41 PM
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Slightly, I think, as more accidental pregnancies would be aborted. However, human misery and societal problems would increase exponentially. Some people would never abort, they would live in poverty. Those who abort that wouldn't have done otherwise would be miserable. Many mothers have no choice but to become single further into the relationship, they would live in poverty. Others would stay in toxic relationships, miserable for both parents and the child. It would be awful for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:44 PM
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Absolute nonsense. Reading your other posts in this thread I see you are a nutcase who thinks men and women don't really like having sex very much. How you think sex is more tightly controlled now than in the past, I can't even imagine. Obviously men and women like sex and obviously they are doing it more freely than before the 1960's. I presume you mean-"I'm not getting any so all women suck and it would have been better gif me when they didnt have equal rights!" I'm not going to respond to any…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:51 AM
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Maybe, but the UK is pretty much totally secular, when it comes to politics, and its still illegal here. I think its more to do with objectification of women and sex being frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:37 AM
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Wait a minute- didn't feminism allow women to have casual sex? It was pretty controlled when women were property and prostitution was also illegal. Make your minds up while you're going your own way!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:35 AM
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I agree with what you're saying now, it doesn't contradict that I disagree with your earlier statement that male feminists can't know about masculinity. I never said thinking about something makes you an expert, I said it gives you an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:28 PM
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I disagree. Not only is their manhood just as valid, but they have also by definition done some thinking about gender roles, meaning they probably are more aware of it than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 01:01 PM
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The question is what it means to be a man, not about sexual experience. All the men I know believe in female equality and they all seem pretty confident in their masculinity and have sexual experience. It's the norm outside this wierd little world here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:55 PM
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What about feminists who are men, and feminists married to men? I'd say they have an equal right to everyone else. Perhaps more because by definition they have spent time thinking about gender inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 11:46 AM
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Literally never asked each other a number. It seems like an immature and pointless thing to ask. As long as your attitude and worldview are similar, then who cares? We have been together 6 years and have two kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:55 AM
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I think there's a grey area sometimes with friends who aren't suitable for a relationship but a drunken hookup could happen. I feel like I did that in my teens and twenties a few times, and there was always an atmosphere or tension afterwards that wasn't there before. It might be possible to stay friends, but things aren't the same. At that age its worth it, because its fun and every hole is a goal kind of thing, but after a while you value the good friendships more and don't want to jeapordise …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:15 PM
3

Kinda rings true, but I think your authentic self also changes over time. I used to love partying, now I love staying in. I've always preferred monogamous sex but that's down to a load of other variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:50 PM
1

Thankyou!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:31 AM
1

Honestly, I care about life-ruining injustice for anyone. Call me a libtard. It's personal to me and about 50% of the population! I don't think there's the same hypocrisy in preferring tall men. It's not like we expect men to chop their legs off or hurt themselves in some way to get a family life, or ask them to arbitrarily deny themselves a basic natural urge. And I've never encountered a woman with a preference for a rich provider, everyone I know just wants a loving partner, but I'd certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 09:23 PM
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It's a massive leap to jump to this hypothetical woman with a hypocritical worldview who can't explain herself because she isn't real. We could sit for hours and invent hypocritical fantasy people but it derails the discussion. Hypocrisy is bad, especially if you are pressuring people to live in discomfort for years on end, such as expecting women to live without their sexual needs met because otherwise they won't get a husband and family one day. As a woman with a high sex drive this nonsense c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:54 PM
2

Where on earth did that come from? Its got nothing to do with the discussion of slut shaming and hypocritical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:08 PM
2

Why have justice and fairness? Why try to make people have a happy life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 08:03 PM
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Those things aren't double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:58 PM
2

It's fine if you don't sleep around yourself, if you do then it's hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:57 PM
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Try living with the Madonna whore complex for a lifetime. It's not like men get mixed messages about whether to be tall or not, and choosing to be tall or short means they have to go through years of their life being sex deprived because of some arcane value system. Seriously imagine feeling pressure to spend your 20's sex deprived so you can have a family in your 30's. For no good reason. Fuck that shit, and fuck anyone who thinks it's a 'preference' and not a 'prejudice.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 07:54 PM
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I think you are confusing preference and prejudice on that first count. On the second count, You have misunderstood me. I'm not agsinst casual sex, but I think in this day and age it should be between equals. Not a man remaining unsullied and marriageable and a woman being somehow tainted and ruined. Just two people enjoying sex, with no bearing on whether they are a good match for marriage or not. The old fashioned double standard is so illogical and harmful to mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:40 PM
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Gregariousness I suppose, I don't want people to suffer from prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 04:53 PM
2

Lol are people on here still writing 'pair bonding' as if it's a thing? Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:24 PM
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Different but both enjoy sex or we wouldn't do it. There is nothing intrinsic or biological about slut shaming someone you had sex with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:22 PM
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Exactly, thankyou. They are doing the exact same sexual behaviour, but feel the woman they are fucking is inferior in that way. They 'slut' themselves but want yo marry someone who hasn't done the behaviour. So hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:17 PM
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Yes, and I met my partner online. Obviously looks matter, and are the first checkpoint to get past, but other websites and meeting in bars also have more scope for getting your personality accross. I just find the 'advice' of get slimmer and look nicer to be all women need to do to SUCCEED in dating a little obnoxious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:13 PM
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Yuk, that website is so shallow and looks based. The remit is to succeed in dating, not just get any old crappy date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:03 PM
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It took this sub for me to realise that some men think slut shaming only applies to 'sluts' (silly word.) I have always felt it more pertained to shaming any sexual behaviour, ie, "I'd better not have sex with thus guy because he'll think I'm a slut."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:59 AM
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'slut shaming' is more than simple insults on here. There's the plethora of RP guys who say they 'aren't attracted to' women with a 'high n count.' for example. All sorts of judgement about 'slutty' behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 11:56 AM
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Yep, I'll second that. I mean I'm usually horny for both but one after the other, and sometimes one of them is enough. Masturbating only makes me more frustrated too, it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:52 PM
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I agree, most women who are single don't get much sex, and actually most women in relationships, after kids, don't get much either in my experience. Some aren't interested in casual sex, even if you are you wouldnt bang someone if you didn't fancy them, so even going on two dates a week it can take months to meet someone to even have a ONS with. And that's me with a high sex drive, I've got friends who never even masturbated as a teenager so I expect their sex drives are low and they are even le…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:49 PM
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I doubt you'll change anyones view if you don't explain why this is hampstering. I don't agree with everything OP says but it's definitely my experience that most women don't get very much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:37 PM
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That's a fantasy. I think the vast majority of guys would actually be totally freaked out by that, that just doesn't happen. Especially coming from non-hot women, who I suspect you aren't taking into account. Also, you might be desperate, but most men also have some standards. And I repeat, I just don't want to have sex with most people, most women just don't. Especially not off the bat like that. It's nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 06:42 AM
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Yuk. I just don't want to sleep with most people. And even if they wanted to sleep with me, (I guess in your experiment you're super hot?) there isn't a realistic way for it to come about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 05:28 AM
1

Sure, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:30 PM
1

Honestly I'm not interested in the 8. It puts me off. However there is nothing immoral about preferring more attractive people? Probably won't have much success if you aren't attractive yourself though. You sound quite bitter. I think you should add not being a bitter manchild who thinks they have it tough to your list of dating rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 02:17 PM
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Maybe for equally hot girls. I'm fairly average looking and I'd be put off by a guy being 8-10, even if they were interested, which they never have been, I'd feel insecure. People fall for my personality, my looks aren't bad enough to put them off. That's probably how it is in most "looks don't matter" situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 02:02 PM
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I find that hard to believe. I want a nice house and money for treats and small luxuries for my own quality of life, surely most people do? After you've spunked into your sexbot the hundredth time you think people will be content eating instant ramen in a bedsit until they get horny again? All their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 05:31 AM
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Looks are a big part of attraction, In terms of attraction there is nothing wrong with choosing people you are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:03 PM
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I don't understand how either are sexist. Can I change your view to neither being sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 03:57 PM
1

It is a bigger commitment, but unlike marriage it can happen by accident so when that happens it isn't a conscious commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 02:28 PM
1

Possibly. I have quite a male sense of humour and direct outlook so it would fit better. Also I'm quite wide-set and above average height which would be good for a man, on a woman it means I'll never be 'hot.' If I had been male I would have spent a lot less of my life agonising over not being thin enough or being ashamed of wanting to have sex so much. On the other hand, now those things don't bother me, it's probably easier for me to find a partner who likes the same things. I think it's irrel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:29 PM
1

Dude that's ridiculous. It's a teeny negligible fraction of a percentage doing that. A handful of men and women in the world's population. When you're in those tiny numbers it doesn't say shit about half the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 10:04 PM
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Maybe if it was a High proportion of all women, which it obviously isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 08:49 PM
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Not innocent, but normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 09:46 AM
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And he'll fuck it up with his bad attitude and the ridiculous notions he absorbed from the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 06:21 AM
5

Haha, hilarious you are so bitter and twisted, poor lamb
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:43 AM
1

Thankyou for mansplaining that for us
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 06:31 AM
1

I can't see a big problem based on your post. Women have far less T and still manage to be 'confident and driven.' And as long as people aren't infertile I don't see a problem with a lower sperm count either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:27 PM
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Don't forget the social factor. Society applauds men with lots of notches on their bedpost, this is going to make them feel good about it. This is not the case for women- in sleeping around we are ignoring and suppressing a social stigma dating back thousands of years. Intellectually we discount it because it is unfair unjust outdated bullshit, but that culture of slut shaming (not just sluts but any woman who has sex) is still there under the surface, and right out in the open among some people…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 10:15 AM
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That was my point, he didn't specify and its kind of crucial
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 12:37 PM
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You aren't a hypocrite because the standard applies to you too. You have had few partners and you want someone with a similar worldview. It's the hypocrisy which would make it sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 10:45 AM
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You didn't mention whether you have slept with or would sleep with a lot of people. If this 'standard' you have is hypocritical, then you are indeed sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:45 AM
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3rd option- meet women through friends, activities or websites
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:29 AM
1

Lol radio silence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 09:14 PM
2

It's similar, she's a hypocrite too. Of course, he's welcome to say "no thanks," as is the woman too these days, thank god things changed. I think society would be more likely to laugh at the fat woman preferring fit men really, even if they're saying "go girl" to her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 06:32 PM
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Sometimes, men on here like to have casual sex themselves but have a 'preference' that women arbitrarily deny their own needs and have very few partners because of some medieval ideas of purity and whatnot, locks and keys bullshit. While there is nothing wrong with this preference if the man is also abstaining, the "one rule for you and another for me" is a disgusting double standard and I would judge that individual to be a hypocritical, vile bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 05:54 PM
2

Soooo close. There is a disgusting, toxic double standard at play here but it's not about men's preferences...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 09:35 AM
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Let's ignore the dating stuff, because it really isn't connected with our discussion. Just don't be a dick. Guys making mistakes because they don't want their actions to be misconstrued blah blah blah... Welcome to navigating complex social interaction. You could equate it to the madonna/whore complex women have to navigate. I'm not saying we take 0% of the shit, you just can't expect every job to be 50/50. There are plenty of rubbish jobs mostly women do. No one is arguing for more male nannies…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 04:30 PM
2

Goodness me you're really overthinking something fairly simple
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 04:13 PM
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I really think you are overthinking to the point you have abandoned common sense. Re-read what you wrote and I wrote employing common sense... Equality movements want a fair world not everything to arbitrarily be 50/50 on gender/race etc lines. If things aren't harmful, then your failures at striking the right note in dating really aren't anyone's concern except your own. Seriously, get off the Internet, you've fused.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 03:34 PM
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Lol why would any equality movement focus on getting shit pipe cleaning jobs? You've gone too far down the rabbit hole my friend. And there you go again focusing on things that aren't harmful. And no one advocates being a supplicating pussy to girls. Take it back to basics, NO HARMFUL BEHAVIOUR. And on brainwashing, that's me being generous to the guy, ie maybe it's not his fault, he was brainwashed. Maybe not, maybe the cat caller is just a douche. It isn't getting him girls though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 03:07 PM
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Dude it's common sense. Don't do things that harm others. Don't do things that harm 50% of the population makes no logical sense, if you can't see that, if that isn't self evident, then there is no point 'debating.' I've found the motte and Bailey analogy useful, because Ive noticed it in other areas such as trans rights, but you're flogging it a bit much here. I haven't presented two sets of values, just "feminism advocates for women's rights" and "toxic masculinity is typically masculine behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 02:53 PM
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I think I understand the confusion. Feminism advocates for women's equality, hurray we are allowed to go to university... Decades later more women are being admitted. So to me, this is no longer an issue feminism needs to focus on. Perhaps the fact that those graduates are far less likely to become leaders because of sexism in the workplace and childcare inequality, that becomes a focus. We can't solve all the world's problems with feminism, by definition problems which don't affect women are ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:18 PM
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Whoa down boy. I think the definition is "things that harm others."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 01:04 PM
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That was a whole lot of waffle part of which I sympathised with... But didn't really speak to the point much... It seems you misconstruing what toxic masculinity is wasn't down to pure ignorance on the topic. On the motte and Bailey thing... We aren't a hive mind. To me, feminism is equality, 99% of modern people support it. Some fringe people may try to make 'feminism' mean affirmative action etc, but they have nothing to do with me, it isn't some kind of tactic to grab power or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:45 AM
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Stopped reading where you equated toxic masculinity with hitting on women in bars. Don't deliberately misunderstand things to discredit them, it gets us all nowhere fast. Toxic masculinity would be more along the lines of HITTING women in bars, ie harmful behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:10 AM
1

Can't explain the backpedal though eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:53 PM
1

What context is that? Is it when it fits your narrative for single mums to be irresponsible sluts, I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:38 PM
1

What context? I suspect its the "single mums are irresponsible shit heads" narrative...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:35 PM
1

Yet you don't think of a divorcee as a single mum?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:25 PM
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UK. I'd expect a single mum to be someone who's relationship didn't work out or an accidental pregnancy. What on earth do you think if not that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:54 PM
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I think they do. Maybe it's different in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 11:48 AM
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I think most of us hoped things would work out with our husbands and boyfriends when we decided to have a child. Married people with kids split up too, how did you not know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:09 AM
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I dunno I think smart women are more likely to leave a toxic relationship, naive women are more likely to stay being abused ime. When I was a single mum and a lot of my friends were, yes a lot of us chose to leave the dickhead fathers of our children, however we also felt we had no choice but to do so because of the way they were acting. Amongst the reasons, compulsive lying (mine), rapey aggression (that was an nigerian guy my friend got pregnant to who she suspects spiked the condom in the hop…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:07 AM
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As nobody particularly chooses to be a single mum, it might be more like "Well what do you know, I didn't need a man after all." Many of us found ourselves much better off without some loser/ abuser/ manchild so it isn't deluded at all, it's often a fact that we are better off without. It would be a bizarre single mum who didn't believe in female equality wouldn't it, surely?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:24 PM
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I haven't really said anything about it, but probably taught by example, and my 10 year old son calls out sexism when he sees it fairly regularly. He seems to be quite naturally kind and fair. I expect he'll form healthy relationships in the future based on how he talks about people now. Whether he attracts a lot of girls will also depend on whether he stays confident and good looking. To me, not being raised feminist would mean raising boys with fragile egos and a toxic idea of masculinity, set…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:16 PM
1

I think parents should have the right to test their child, any time without the mothers permission. If you can't do the time dont do the crime. That in place, I'm not sure what 'punishment' you could have- it's like punishing for having an affair. It's absolute shitty behaviour but not sure how it's a crime, unless they are separated and he has been taken to court for child support, in which case all men should test paternity as a matter of course. If he had paid child support, it should be paid…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 09:47 PM
1

Yes, I think he's reading in to it in his own way but actually you could read various things into it, meh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:36 PM
1

Yeah, I originally thought the point of the post was "therefore, men don't seek it." It could be interpreted various ways
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:01 PM
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I meant in terms of the OP, a black and white decision between "good girl" and "bad girl." Noone does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:42 PM
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Normal people don't 'market themselves.' They just get on with their lives trying to find happiness. Sometimes they have sex, it doesn't tarnish them into one or two categories for sane adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 01:22 PM
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You are not forced to 'cold approach' anyone. Please don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:35 AM
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Nobody said it was easy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 09:44 AM
1

Yep, craaaazy to suggest there is any gender inequality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 06:04 AM
1

Lol ever had a career and kids? Consider the vastly different impact of kids on men vs women, Very unequal right now, even in Europe never mind the dystopian USA. Also how can you me "more equal?" empirical data my arse, I'm checking out now, what utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 10:33 PM
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Woman here, not quite equal yet and only seeking equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 10:17 PM
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A) because men absolutely benefit from having more equal and productive members of society, and educated empowered partners/mothers etc. B) It is absolutely not a supremacist movement, that is absurd get out of the manosphere, also check a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:39 PM
1

Yes they are different movements, but my point absolutely still stands in fact you reinforced it by saying that no, it isn't about how white people would benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:28 PM
1

That's the same thing. Feminism is ending discrimination against women. That is a facet of equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 08:41 AM
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No contradiction. Equality, focusing on women's issues. You wouldn't expect the civil rights movement to suddenly focus on white people specific issues (if such a thing exists) would you? Yet it is still an equality movement. Checkmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 09:46 PM
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There are men's issues, I wouldn't deny it. It's strange you expect feminists to focus on men's issues, when we have so many women's issues on our plate. It seems obvious to me that feminism would concentrate on women's issues not men's ones specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:13 AM
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I'm not saying we are all snowflakes, in fact that's a misnomer. I'm saying your points aren't true of normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:09 AM
1

Hmm not what the dictionary says
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:08 AM
1

So we are ignoring dictionary definitions in purple pill now are we? Doesn't that ring any alarm bells for you, if your argument rests on the dictionary being mistaken?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:07 AM
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It should be called egalitarianism, I think the name comes from when, in the past, women faced much more glaring inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:05 AM
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Wrong, I expect you're 'nut picking' the crazy ladies, much the way us blue pillers like to focus on the worst of the manosphere lunatics. You can Google the definition of feminism, it's actually about equality though every group will have its crazy outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:35 PM
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I do, and I think they absolutely already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:03 PM
2

Lol GET A DICTIONARY or Google it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:59 PM
6

Wow have you seen RP? It's a constant trope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:59 PM
2

The point of female empowerment was always equality, amazing how many responders on here don't get that!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:57 PM
2

So... You're red pill and want equality? Okaaaaay
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:56 PM
4

Every point you made was RP bullshit and in no way describes me or any women I know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:55 PM
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Usually, outside of school or college ie in your 30's, there aren't many to choose from. I used to go on dates about once a week, rarely clicked, maybe met someone I could shag every 2 or 3 months, not everyone wants to be fwb, so maybe you would meet someone like that once or twice a year. I wouldn't consider an unstable dark violent guy under any circumstances, when I did have a fwb it was awkward because he adored me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 12:35 PM
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In my case the fwb situation is to get the sex, not the emotional rollercoaster bs. I don't want that stuff but the need for a p in my v means I can put up with it. Have you factored that in? The fact that women also crave sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 10:20 AM
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We got pregnant by accident after 5 months dating and we are trying to make it work, 4 years in so far. I don't want to do that to him or our sons. He is attracted to me but unfortunately very, very lazy in many areas of life. That's my life right now, I accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 11:07 AM
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4 times a week is still quite a lot in a LTR, so I'm not surprised it's OK for both of you. It's when a partner never wants to have sex from one week to thd next that I think they should at least throw their partner a frickin' bone. And it sounds very un-pc but a lot of people get into it once it gets going. I don't think anyone likes duty sex, but my boyfriend says no all the time out of his epic laziness so sometimes all I can get is duty sex, once a week or less. I get really horny and desper…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 10:11 AM
4

Interesting it's only people who haven't lived that experience making these claims...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:26 AM
2

I'm just curious--it's a phenomenal amount of money--more than some people earn altogether so Im curious whether oits because you are a very high earner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 12:53 PM
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What percentage of your pay was it, out of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:31 AM
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Lol I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be advice...surely even RP doesn't recommend leaving your children destitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:28 PM
1

You must be absolutely loaded?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 09:26 PM
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Yes, and something something locks and keys!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 03:16 PM
1

Yeah or who acts like an entitled man child when it comes to household responsibilities- not sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:47 AM
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Yeah, there was a post the other day about "would you marry someone who was dtf on the first date?" And a lot of RPers seem to have the concensus "no, marry a sexually conservative woman." Well if you yourself were dtf then you're probably not compatible with the sexually conservative woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 05:46 AM
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Wow that is some boss-monster level passive aggression there, I feel sorry for real people in your life on the receiving end of that! Yeah thanks for being so nice as to dismiss my salient points by painting me as too emotional to be objective... Can't identify one emotional thing I wrote, but that doesn't matter does it? You guys crack me up, in a tragic kind of way. Yep over and out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:01 PM
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Thankyou for admitting that, very gracious of you. I guess it's a matter of degree. I'd place the affect of the number of penisis that have been in my vag to be about 0.0001% as effective on my 'ability to pair bond' compared to my life experiences, happiness, childhood and the culture around me, and I doubt the figure is much different for either sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:43 AM
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Lol yeah I'm hurt all the way to my healthy sex and relationships. I knew going into this there's no changing the minds of deeply sexist men, but it's kind of gratifying that the only response you can come up with is to refer back to this childish pseudo science, and the 'pair bonding' bollocks, rather than address the actual meaningful points raised regarding how life experience will have a far greater effect on bonding, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 11:39 AM
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Have you ever thought how complex bonding with another human is? Don't you think that factors such as past experiences, happy vs traumatic childhood, where you are in your life and career, your attachment style, and a million other things would have a much greater bearing than how many cocks have been in you? Also would a woman out of a 6 year relationship who had sex mist days be more affected than one who had 3 relationships but far less sex? Come on, it's so blatantly obvious that life experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:50 AM
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Ah bad luck, the 'studies' are merely RP pseudo science. Be honest with yourself- it is just a way for sexist men who want to have their cake and eat it, to clutch at straws and try and give some legitimacy to their dated, extremely sexist attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:38 AM
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Is this question meant for me? It's OP drawing a wierd line in the sand about sex and marriage, I think it's almost irrelevant how quickly a couple have sex as to whether they eventually want to get married. It's all situational imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 09:28 AM
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Absolute bullshit scientific studies, I'm a complex person, not a labrador. Do you guys have any idea how ridiculous this 'pair bonding' phrase comes across? I don't suppose you have a link to these 'studies' because I've only ever heard of them in the RP sphere. Men in no way deal with the same tightrope walk, we all know that historically the expectation was for women to deny themselves and for men to try it on without repercussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:45 AM
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It's when it is less of a 'preference' and more of a sexist double standard. A lot of men on RP want to have casual sex but also see themselves settling down when they want to, at the same time seeing women with this outlook as somehow damaged goods. Or 'sluts' (such a dated, hateful term I hate even writing it.) Its complete bullshit, and very damaging to women having to walk this tightrope between being a confident, sexual being and worrying about being judged by men doing the exact same thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:58 PM
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You are applying totally different rules and standards to men and women around the exact same behaviour, which is the very definition of sexism. We weren't talking about promiscuity per se but having happened to have sex on the first date. You might have really got to know each other and had a very special night- I would hope so with spouse material! You choose if you have sexist double standards- saying' men think this therefore I think this... ' is a very weak argument. How on earth does marry…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:57 PM
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OK the phone formatting isn't clear sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:48 PM
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Surely it just depends on the vibe of the date, whether there happens to have been an appropriate chance to escalate things, various other factors? Sometimes it happens, sometimes not. It's waaaay overthinking things to guess "we haven't slept together on the first date so she sees me as a provider!" Also again it's not about what you 'deserve,' and more about how things unfold on that particular date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 09:46 PM
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Ah, there it is the sexist "It's different for men and women... I can sleep around then get married just fine but yoooooooo can't" Absolutely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:27 PM
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So why even question whether you would marry a girl who had sex on the first date? If you had a good time and wanted to stick around etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:24 PM
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You didn't answer the question at all, I'm still curious whether you think you should be personally written off from marriage for first date sex. In answer to what you did say, I think there is a wider variety in female sex drives. I prefer to be in a relationship, but my drive is high so I need sex in the meantime between relationships, so sure I've had sex with people I wasn't long term romantically interested in just to get some sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 08:22 PM
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That's an interesting opinion about marriage, I don't think it's really linked to the OP though and whether having sex on the first date means you should never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 11:43 AM
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I'm curious, you obviously also had sex in this situation, so would you also consider yourself written off for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 11:35 AM
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Let's flip it- would you expect a girl who you tried to have sex with on the first date to be willing to marry you? Or would you feel it would be justified to write you off forever as some male slut fuckboi? You may feel that, hey, you have a sex drive and just because you were wanted to have sex on the first date, it has no bearing whatsoever on your ability to commit to someone who you love deeply, and all the other factors that make you a candidate for marriage. It takes two to tango, you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 11:00 AM
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We have a cleaner once a week because my partner wouldn't do anything without being asked, but there are still tasks which need doing day in day out and it will still grate when one partner lies on the sofa all the time while the other one cooks and tidies every day, gets kids fed, puts laundry on, tidies and does all those daily tasks even if he is paying someone to clean the house once a week and some weekly jobs are getting done by someone else. If you're talking about a live-in maid who does…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 10:55 PM
3

Maybe calling someone a thug is OK if their behaviour is thuggish, it's different if you are saying that based on appearance/ race alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:57 PM
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That's a very specific time slot, remember we are talking about many varied countries over about 1500 years not one socio-economic bubble in the 1700's. It also doesn't refute the fact that the Koran infers more rights to women, on paper, than the bible does. (The Bible being absolutely abysmal when it comes to women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 09:55 PM
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Look for it if you're interested, I guess? It's kind of common knowledge that European women were passed from father to husband somewhat like property for most of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:28 PM
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Look for it then, the link I posted describes how European women couldn't own property until the 19th century, its fairly common knowledge that we had very few rights in the middle ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:52 PM
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You can Google 'women's legal rights in koran' and find any number of sources, but here's one: http://www.islamswomen.com/articles/do_muslim_women_have_rights.php Basically the Koran has various legal allowances for women and the bible does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:08 PM
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It certainly has- women in the middle ages were chattel to their fathers and husbands with almost no rights. In contrast the Koran does technically give women more rights than the bible does, and at certain points in history Muslim women had more rights, ie owning property and being able to initiate divorces. All this counts for nothing however when you transpose culture on top. Culture wins and many Islamic cultures today are deeply patriarchal, whereas Christian cultures have moved towards equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:02 PM
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Sorry I thought there was usually a bot for when you agree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 12:59 PM
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There's no bot, but I'm blue pill, and I agree. It comes from a time when women couldn't socially acceptably just say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 06:54 AM
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Hemhem, 'sexual resource' here and I and all the other 'resources' I know have our own agency thanks, and when it comes to dating we wanted to find love and decent, kind, fun partners, earnings being way down the list of qualities we were looking for. Sexual resource indeed! Half of the PEOPLE involved in the dating!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 12:05 PM
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I agree, I think it's a real transitional time mostly down to the Internet's impact on human relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 11:59 AM
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Easier as men become more emotionally open and self aware. Red Pill attitudes and all the difficulties that go with them are the death rattle of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 01:48 AM
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I answered it about 5 times
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 01:46 AM
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Oh, you're trolling. Goodbye!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 06:44 PM
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You, in my opinion. Nothing broken about wanting a partner you find attractive, as I keep saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 05:39 PM
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I disagree, tbh no offence you sound a bit broken
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 04:53 PM
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Sounds rubbish, weren't we originally talking about finding a decent partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 04:36 PM
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You hit the nail on the head, that is indeed how it works. Also, water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:41 PM
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I think you are overthinking the tenuous link between people wanting to be attracted to their partner, which is natural and healthy, and all the problems in the world stemming from 'bad men.'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:32 PM
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You're ignoring what I'm saying. Personality matters in addition to looks, to decent people. 'Bad men' only out compete good men with idiots. This doesn't cause excinction, just some toxic relationships amongst scumbags of both sexes. Attraction is normal and healthy and won't ever be 'knocked out.' So go get some excercise, have a shower, be nice to people and enjoy life!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 02:49 PM
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What is sad about it? We all want to be with someone we find attractive. What's wrong with that? I disagree with the statement that bring decent doesn't matter, of course it matters but it matters in addition to attraction, to normal decent people. What went wrong with you if you think that is 'damned sad?' Don't you want a partner who you find attractive? And who us also a decent person? It's healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 02:25 PM
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Well yeah the looks are important to get a foot in the door, but given decent grooming and hygeine etc a decent woman will generally only Long term date a decent guy. Obviously being decent won't get you a catch if you are ugly, generally and thats the same for both sexes. It's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 02:13 PM
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If they are decent guys they will have the option of decent girls. I'd say none is better than some car crash person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 01:57 PM
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I think the level of drunk where consent is a legal problem is the level where you couldn't open a car door or start the engine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:58 PM
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It has its uses here because if OP accepts the idea that everyone is somewhat like this it might help him move past his toxic misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:50 PM
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Lol my sons are NATURALS
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 06:37 AM
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THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS how can you not comprehend that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 10:06 PM
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... If we are talking about contraception, sure. We are all free to abstain or use birth control, with moral equivalence totally. I was referring to the 'legal abortion' wankers who want to be able to sign away all their responsibilities in the case of accidental pregnancy the scum of the earth, sorry if that wasn't clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 10:00 PM
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HAHAHA hilarious how your answer to everything is to put it all onto the woman, you really nailed home my point about people who espouse this view having zero empathy for the woman involved! Also lol- sex is consent to abortion. WHAT??? And again, biologically, legally in EVERY WAY- ACTUAL ABORTIONS AND 'LEGAL ABORTIONS' ARE NOT REMOTELY THE SAME THING! So stop the bullshit about it being about equality. It's about selfish bastard scum of the earth wanting to have their cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 09:47 PM
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I'm aware that sex without a condom feels much better, I hate them and my accidental son came along because of that. I also don't get along with synthetic hormones like the pill which you seem to be assuming are no issue whatsoever. It's such total bullshit to equate a woman's choice of having an abortion with this 'legal abortion' rubbish. It just biologically isn't the same thing by a long shot and it never will be. You never know until you have an accidental pregnancy whether you would be abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 04:54 PM
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You keep referring to birth control allowing us to have "unprotected sex." By definition it is protected sex. It sounds like you want to enjoy unprotected sex and abandon all responsibility if she gets pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 04:41 PM
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Sometimes people want kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 09:01 AM
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Blue pill, and I agree. Even Japan, which isn't poor, simply being western seems to add about 5 to a guy's smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:22 AM
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Nope, can't see any link whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 02:53 PM
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But nothing in it was related to the original post, my comments or the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 01:33 PM
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Bit rude, totally irrelevant and false. Most men get sex and relationships and do just fine, commiserations that you can't hack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 01:14 PM
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I am blue pill and agree with everything you just wrote. (in that, of course the sexes have differences etc) Red Pill goes waaaaaaaay down crazy misogynistic tangents from the point you are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 10:34 AM
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Well I agree with that point, but situations aren't always so clear cut. We got pregnant by accident after 5 months so we are trying our hardest to work at it and meet in the middle on things, 4 years later we are still happy. Tbh the problem seems to be so endemic I haven't met any fellow mum who didn't relate to the comic. Even marrying Mr Perfect Unicorn before kids, you can't entirely predict how they will respond to the new situation with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 08:44 PM
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Because my partner never did ANYTHING unless asked, I bore the entire mental load without realising there was even a term for it, and did 99% of the housework and child rearing, despite working 3 days also, and the comic put the injustice I was constantly feeling into words. He understood straight away reading it in a way I couldn't get through to him before. Things have been better since. Of course I still have to ask, a lot, but things are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 08:25 AM
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HAHAHA please never cohabit with someone if you think doing your bit around the house requires mind reading. That comic saved my sanity and relationship, it's golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 06:14 AM
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I don't know what UMC means. Job or career, it is still nice to get away from the kids and talk to adults. Even shitty jobs have potential for promotion. All provide independent income, giving this up is always a huge sacrifice. You still get the 'social status' of being a mother when you've got a job. Of course working is an extra facet of identity. Even just because you get to talk and think about things other than the kids. I'm in the UK, there isn't pressure to stop working but almost all mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 01:34 AM
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Are you serious? OK. Sacrifices made when becoming a stay at home parent: Having your own income. Talking to adults other than spouse daily. The sense of identity from your job. Having things to think about other than home life. Keeping your mind sharp. Getting long breaks from the kids. The potential for promotions and career progression- to me this is a big one because it applies not just to stay at home parents but those who drop to part time, which is the majority of mothers in my experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 01:20 AM
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Er, yes she is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 08:58 PM
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Bullshit, makes no difference
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 03:01 PM
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Your response doesn't respond to what I said at all, or the statement I was responding to. The man being older and 'more established' makes no difference whatsoever to any of it. The conversation is about men and women making sacrifices for others. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 02:17 PM
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Probably not if it was something they discussed and agreed upon together. As it goes against the norm I would have loads of respect for a man who chose the path less traveled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 01:28 PM
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I had to read this a few times as it makes so little sense. We can all agree that stay at home parents are usually women, right? They have sacrificed their whole career and part of their identity for others and it is very much pushed by society. Hence this discussion about SAHF's. All this stuff about women having equality, women notice it all fall away once we have kids, in the workplace and in the home, we have such a long way to go. Your statement is preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 01:23 PM
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I've got it- "I am suffering with toxic ideas of what masculinity is, you are not."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 05:42 AM
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Lol you really set the ridiculous tone with that first point, you cannot be serious! As a mother of boys I can assure you no-one has tried to indoctrinate them to feel bad about being boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 11:09 AM
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I don't understand what we are supposed to fight about. Less divorce heartache is good isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 03:13 PM
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I think most normal people, accross all ages, know nothing about rad fems or their crazy ideas, and accept men and women as equals and sex as nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 08:22 AM
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I disagree. I think the vast majority of men and women in the West believe in equality and common sense like everyone voting and having the same rights. The crazies are outliers in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 06:38 PM
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I really wish people in reddit would distinguish between crazy 3rd wave feminism and the dictionary definition, where it is just about having the vote and equal rights. Don't just write 'feminism' when you are referring to the crazies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 06:35 AM
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That's a very red pill viewpoint, and sounds a lot more like a red pill lifestyle to me where you want women to be dependent on men. And not my experience at all- the blue pill relationship ideal is surely, objectively, communication, respect and love not 'draining people dry like a locust and moving on.' I've certainly never sought to do that to anyone and neither has anyone I've ever known. We all just try to find someone decent to live a happy life with. To me, the essence of red pill is its …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:39 AM
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I don't think anyone gets pushed towards blue pill, as it encompasses the entirety of not-red-pill. What led me to see people as equals? Common sense and decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 12:54 PM
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My parents are still married but my childhood was shit- basically my mum hit us and shouted every day and it was a war zone. My dad didn't do anything about it, as there was no reasoning with her. They also weren't great at listening, supporting, any of that and looking back I was quite depressed and didn't grow up well adjusted. Having a pair of married parents doesn't mean shit compared to having a loving, communicating family of any number with healthy relationships and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:45 PM
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Absolutely wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:34 AM
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It's hard for everyone sometimes. I've know lovely men who struggle, and lovely women. It can take years to find someone you click with, and that's life. Perhaps there is also an element that these good, genuine honest and quality people are less willing to settle or 'use' people they aren't interested in for sex and short term relationships- they need a real connection. I've got one particular guy and girl in mind, wonderful, attractivepeople who spent years alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 06:17 AM
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For me I find the two things to be entirely different, not remotely comparable. I'm not against people paying for sex if it was all above board, safe and legal, but the way things are I think a lot of prostitutes are vulnerable, either with shitty childhoods and addiction problems or they were people trafficked. (I'm aware there are exceptions.) I would worry that a man who paid for sex objectified women and relationships, but it could depend on the person and how they spoke about it. I have a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 11:01 AM
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'toxic masculinity' as a concept is fighting against the idea that men are inherently violent/ aggressive/ inconsiderate. It's so pathetic of you to deliberately misunderstand the idea as "men are inherently evil hurr durr" Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 06:01 AM
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Well, sex is very important to many of us humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 11:08 AM
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I agree with your point but can't upvote because of the crazy assertion that women are at an advantage in the workplace. Yes, feminism has brought some measure of equality but you surely can't be so far down the rabbit hole that you think we have an overall advantage??? Then taking into account the impact having children has on female careers vs male careers... I mean come on!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 11:07 AM
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Not admit when he is wrong when he is clearly, definitely wrong beyond any doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 10:59 AM
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It's true for both genders, everybody knows that very good looking people find it easier to find partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 12:50 PM
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Its possible that the top 10% of attractive women have all this choice and abundance, the rest of us are just trying to avoid loneliness, looking for the one or in relationships like everyone else. Also edited to add that once settled down, where do we meet these hoardes of suitors? Not on the school run, or in traditionally female jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 09:33 AM
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Red, yellow but he looks like a smug douche so probably not, yellow. It's a pointless exercise, personality always matters there is no green. Money doesn't come into it as some wankers have suggested. I'd say I'm a 6 on a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 06:07 AM
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By your 'logic' trp tells women to lose weight, therefore AWALT doesn't exist, and if a woman is slim then nothing trp says about women applies. It's nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 05:36 AM
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Because they are completely and utterly different things. I'm pro-choice but I don't think I could go through the trauma of abortion, therefore the whole argument is invalid for me. Financial support would in no way influence whether I decided to have an abortion or not. If it were to become a reality, at the bare minimum the woman's stance on abortion, ie whether they would be willing to have one, would have to be legally confirmed before sex took place. It would also be even harder to use birt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 01:03 PM
1

Yeah maybe next time I'll get to debate someone with some iota of logic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:18 AM
1

The fact that women are under pressure to be slim is obvious and universally known. It doesn't in any way inform this discussion. I'm not going to reiterate again, that peace out!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 07:58 AM
1

You're saying women aren't aware of seeing their shortcomings and men are, it amounts to my exact point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 07:56 AM
1

Of course they do, whilst still thinking AWALT. Your point has no relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:03 AM
0

Exactly, yes, they're friends which is not a waste of time, the hope for something more is in his head.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:02 AM
1

Thankyou for demonstrating my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 06:01 AM
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I've never heard of a woman being ambiguous with a male friend that she might want something more. How would that even work? They're just friends. Edit: The point Im trying to make is that in this situation, she's just being a friend albeit a flirty one, and having a friend is good in itself and not a 'waste of time.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:39 PM
1

Rubbish, and even if that was the case, it is irrelevant to the point of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 07:31 AM
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Op of this conv already specified as 'life partners' not casual sex partners. Mentally healthy men absolutely do have standards when choosing a life partner, in fact even Red pillers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 04:54 PM
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For marriage? Rubbish
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 04:50 PM
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Absolutely--that's the essence of AWALT. Doesn't matter what we do, who we are, we are all the same it's our nature blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 10:35 AM
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Perhaps it's the discrepancy that any man can 'improve' himself, but AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 05:02 PM
10

There exist an awful lot of other options, it's a totally false dichotomy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:09 PM
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There exists a whiny bunch of proto-men who actually think that men are societies most downtrodden victims, and they tend to blame women getting the vote and equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 02:54 PM
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Yeah I don't think it means he hates women. It's slightly douchey, I think he should be less honest!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 06:45 AM
1

Rubbish. No one is influencing policies by claiming all men are potential rapist pigs etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:05 AM
1

Pretty sure more of feminist thought is about workplace equality, fairness in society... Not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:25 AM
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You swung from women paying more for health care and maternity leave, I responded to that, about that, and you swung wildly to men's sexual needs being met, which has nothing to do with whether healthcare equality is good for society as a whole. I mean it has NOTHING to do with the discussion or my 'train of thought.' And by the way, completely unrelated as it is, I think we are living in a time where sex is as available as it has ever been, no religious constraints etc, you just need a willing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:40 AM
1

I absolutely support that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:34 AM
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That has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote, or logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:47 PM
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I was acknowledging the link when I said there are injustices, it also applies to your link. Have fun playing victim, good luck with that x
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 12:20 PM
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Yes there are some nutters who say crazy things. You should stop focusing on them and enjoy living in a time of unparalleled equality and social justice. Yes there are still injustices, but if you think western men are the main victims in the world... I think you fell down a rabbit hole that isn't going to make you happy in life and I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 11:23 AM
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Things are that way literally because it is better for society. Society needs to procreate, even childless bachelors reply on the next generation to pay their pension and look after them when they get old and ill. Paid maternity leave etc is literally for societies benefit, screwing women over on health care literally would only benefit certain individuals- individual childless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:48 AM
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Demonisation and dehuminization of men? Do you really think these things? This place is hilarious!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 07:42 AM
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Frugalista, I'm having that! 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:07 PM
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I'd be glad he was working hard, as long as everything else was OK his earnings wouldn't affect the future of our relationship. Female, 35, blue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:06 PM
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One is simply an equality movement and the other argues against equality, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 11:04 AM
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Lol funny joke
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 06:21 AM
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I think sleeping with someone else concurrently on the side while seeing someone you are interested in is altogether different from an occasional hook-up while totally single, I would never do that. In agreement aside from that, yes there is still sadly something in our culture which means women have to play down needing sex when they are single, whilst simultaneously being expected to love sex when in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 09:13 AM
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OK I'll bite- what was contradictory?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:03 AM
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Agreed and things haven't balanced out just yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:28 PM
1

... So you didn't take in a single word I wrote. Yep, that's purple pill debate for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:06 PM
1

From the tone of your comments I assumed you were going with this trp bollocks about fucking hot alphas and using 'beta' s' for security but wanting to fuck them less, yadda yadda yadda. Its such a load of bilge. Also you were referring to 'putting out' as if it's some kind of reward women give out, as opposed to the sex positive reality of two people enjoying sex together because they both want to... Or maybe I misunderstood and you're not a terper?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 04:39 PM
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I know! I can also sleep with whoever I like, when I like, by whatever internal logic I like! Thankyou feminism!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 04:17 PM
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It's the truth, sorry it doesn't fit your warped world view. It just goes to show how some guys are so out of touch with the female experience...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 03:17 PM
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I've answered this elsewhere, sorry don't want to re-type
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 02:05 PM
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Well that is the question with a very nuanced answer. If I like someone and we have sex, I've been known to have a massive hormone burst where I get obsessed with them and feel head over heels etc. I don't want to feel like that about someone who isn't that interested in me. Also, crucially, I think people fall for my personality more than my looks, so if I like someone I want them to get to know me before we have sex. We are only talking about 3 dates, and actually I think this is a normal thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 02:04 PM
1

Probably similar to red pillers- I imagine your standards are lower for a one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:17 AM
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Total opposite. I have a high sex drive so when I was single I'd occasionally have sex with someone on the first date simply because there wasn't a future so I might as well get some sex out of it. I only dated people who looked reasonably attractive in the first place, the sex happened when circumstances allowed it, they really weren't the gorgeous ones, it wasn't like they were irresistible of anything like that at all. I can remember them, the idea that they were hotter than the men I chose t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:16 AM
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Ah, there's your misunderstanding. It isn't a reward, it's something both people enjoy doing together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:10 AM
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Isn't that universal? Pretty sure red pillers like sex with attractive women too, not sure why you wrote something so obvious and uncontroversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:08 AM
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Also 'putting out' makes it sound like a transaction, giving something up. Which it isn't, it's enjoying a natural sensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 09:56 AM
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Just not putting out straightaway. Women like sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 09:54 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 09:53 AM
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I would call a woman who won't have sex before marriage asexual, frigid, and/or brainwashed not quality...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:52 AM
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OR sometimes the opposite- If I have sex with a bloke on the first date it means I'm not that into him, I know we aren't going anywhere so just getting some sex to tide me over until my preferred sex, relationship sex, comes along. If I saw a future with a guy I'd wait a little while. It means I like and respect him more. I think the misunderstanding comes from the different values people place on casual sex. To some women like me it's low value, a quick dirty physical fix, whereas I think red p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:49 AM
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Ooh nearly up voted until that last word! Don't bring the vast majority of the population who believe in equality into it! Equality is logical!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 05:37 AM
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Not opposed, I never said opposed. I'm not opposed, I just doubt I would ever have one. The whole 'legal abortion' idea rests on abortions being as easy to do as blowing your nose, which they simply aren't. If many women would never consider abortion whether the man was supportive or not, then the man is simply shirking responsibility towards his own child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:39 AM
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Flawed question, warped definition of male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:36 AM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:22 AM
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Absolute straw man. I never denied abortions exist, I am not opposed to people having them, I respect people having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:22 AM
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I'm not in denial it exists at all, I'm glad it exists and have respect for those who do it but some of us never would. You seem to be in denial about the fact that it is a serious, traumatic and life changing experience, and simply not an option for many women as we feel it would ruin our lives even more than an unplanned pregnancy. Men opting out wouldn't affect many women's decision about whether to terminate, it would simply worsen the situation for the mother and child, whilst elevating irr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 09:24 PM
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It's an inequality that single mothers bear most of the burden of accidental pregnancy, typically devoting everything they have and all their time to the child. And now some dudebros want to not even pay a bit of money towards the kid??? You want to make an inequality even more skewed to men's advantage, and heap all the responsibilities of contraception and consequences onto the women's shoulders only. Yeah, tell me more about how we need a captain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 08:40 PM
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Some of us don't want to purposefully bleed out a clump of cells which will otherwise become our baby and our child. We know if we did it we would be sad and imagine them for the rest of our lives. I have great respect for women who have abortions, I just never could do it, at least over the age of about 21. Therefore if I became accidentally pregnant and the man chose to 'opt out' he would simply be shirking his responsibility towards a child he also accidentally created. The whole idea is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:58 PM
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It isn't ever an option to many women. I'm pro choice of course but I don't think I would ever do it, so the legal abortion argument would be completely defunct with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 11:50 AM
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I'm 35 and at this point very few women I know would be put off by a man being 40 and having kids. Apart from anything they usually have them 2 nights a week or something, dating is definitely skewed to men's advantage in this demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:46 AM
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This would be difficult to evidence, however honeypuppy did provide a thought experiment which I think illustrated their point beautifully.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:42 AM
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Yeah, sounds great don't think many people would like doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:14 PM
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As someone who values my freedom but remembers the feeling of freezing up when I was much younger, the sensible option is that if you don't say no then you don't have a right to cry rape. However the decent thing for the other person to do is read the other persons body language and genuinely check if they are ok. I'm pretty sure this is how it has worked in practice for a very long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:56 AM
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Crikey, I think your dictionary is broken
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 07:32 AM
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I've always thought of dating as a precursor to marriage- checking out whether you want to be with that person. I'm British that might be a slight language difference in how serious 'dating' is. Also being a weekend dad when you have no intention of sticking around is a scumbag move.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:25 AM
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Not unrelated- if she's awesome, which she must be for a red hot alpha to even consider her, then probably someone else considered her a unicorn they wanted kids with but didn't make the grade later. I have a 41 year old friend who does great with women, he's given up dating women without kids because he finds they have more issues especially around not having kids. Women with kids are much more self assured, happy, and know what they want. Certainly more the case with my female mum and non-Mum …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:48 AM
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Wouldn't that flip for single mums after a certain age though? Ie if someone hasn't been in a serious relationship by a certain age you wonder why nobody wanted to do that with them. Also with single parents you know whether they fold in a crisis or keep their shit together and thrive. Of course some people don't want a step kid and that's fine, but in calculating the chance of someone being a good partner, I think your equation is missing many positive factors when it comes to single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 06:22 AM
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See my comment below- i was too embarrassed to give out instructions while my boyf went down on me for years and years. He'd be there for ages and I usually couldn't come because he was pressing too hard or whatever. I think that's the sort of thing it means and I suspect it's very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:47 AM
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I had years of being too shy to give out instructions when my partner went down on me, resulting in frustration and no orgasm. I just couldn't bring myself to say "slow down," and "don't press so hard." I think I was like that until my thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:43 AM
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No BPer is going to make the insane and sexist claims of the OP. Also they are RP concepts like hypergamy, chad beta bux all that rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:05 PM
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Never met one that I know of. The guys I know aren't that hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 06:56 PM
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It is a drive like eating and sleeping, however unlike those others individuals can live (unhappily) without it. I guess technically it is a necessity for the species not the individual. I'm female, and I go all over-horny, unbalanced and weird if I go without for a few weeks, so personally it's a sort of second-tier need like shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:28 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:53 AM
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I totally agree. They may be ok for a good hard fuck when it's been a while and you're desperate,, but if it's a regular thing it gets really old really fast and you want smiles and laughs and hot orgasms and it just isn't worth it. Yak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 08:00 AM
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Go ahead, but 10% is ridiculous. Again I genuinely feel sorry for you that you are surrounded by so many shitbags that you feel that could be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 03:01 PM
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One could argue that the Red pill stance on this is much more 'feelz'- your frenzied paranoia that the evil wiminz are cheating all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:37 PM
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that when they did try it out, they stopped it because the consequences of testing and finding the odd person out was more devastating for the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:35 PM
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Oh come on. What a load of bullshit. I'm a Mum with loads of Mum friends and I only ever once heard of a woman in that position, and she had an abortion because of the horror of it. It's just completely out there. I feel sorry for you that you are so far removed in your life from decent normal people that you feel that comment isn't ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 02:32 PM
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Doing it routinely implies a large number are guilty of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 10:29 AM
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And is a waste of money for the vast majority in loving relationships who aren't cuckolding.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 10:28 AM
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I agree marriage should be an individual legal contract like any other, with both parties aware of that having arranged it with lawyers. Routine testing is a bit offensive to women and dystopian, but I've always thought if anyone is suspicious they should be able to test without the mother's permission. If you can't do the time, dont do the crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 09:11 AM
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Absolutely not. I love a man who oozes equality, it's obvious when people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 05:51 AM
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Ok, but to use your analogy, you need to know to drive cars on roads, if you try to drive an office chair into a river the rest is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 06:59 AM
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It may be for some, but there is this sub called the red pill where very sexist men both seek casual sex with women but pour vitriol on women who enjoy casual sex. You will see a lot of examples of hatred of women with so-called 'high N-counts' there. (Without much definition of what number constitutes a high N count.) It is ridiculously hypocritical and more or less defines slut shaming. I have categorically never known a woman to reject a man because he has slept with too few people. Why would…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 06:24 AM
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Actually I think most of us do the common sense things, look after yourself, don't pedestalise, yadda yadda.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:04 PM
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Well you have discarded one of the main male forms of slut shaming (bitching about so called "N counts," so immature) therefore when you narrow the goalposts like that how can anyone change your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:54 PM
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Not gender specific really. When I was single I hated all the time spent chatting online then going out to meet them and just not being interested. Just the massive time suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:18 PM
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What a bizzarre corner of the internet, that this is even a topic for discussion. It is literally very similar to debating whether Civil rights for black people was a good thing, on balance. Nuts!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:42 AM
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Nothing to help men?!?!?! The OP is good advice to men about not getting unhealthily caught up on looks and masculinity!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:46 AM
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I thought OP showed great care and empathy for western men- Am really curious where you got that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:42 AM
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So you're saying promiscuous is over 20, for the purpose of this debate. I have debated with red pillers who felt that one act of unmarried sex made women a slut. I have seen Red Pillers describe girls and women as sluts because of one sexual encounter they did not approve of. It's just a slur really. The definition of 'Promiscuous' is a huge grey area. I have debated red pillers who thought that 'slut shaming' was something that only affected 'sluts.' What a gigantic lack of empathy- it affects…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 06:17 AM
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I think it is because, the way you put it, it is a black and white dichotomy. What makes a woman 'a slut' is a huge grey area which you haven't gone into, and therein lies the answer to your question. In the real world, most people have sex drives. So they have sex. For sexists, this is OK for men to do but not for women, and this debate goes for miles. In my experience, most people would like to find 'the one,' however in the mean time they have a few one night stands, a few non-serious relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:58 PM
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I think it's just more hassle, to get an abortion you have to travel further, ie to the next country. No-one plans to get pg then have an abortion so I doubt it would change SMP th st much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 08:43 AM
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I'm British, pro-life isn't a thing here, if you don't want an abortion you don't have one, I've never known anyone who presumes they can make that decision for others. Currently trying for a third, so no I wouldn't have an abortion right now! I'd do what I decided to do, ultimately it is me going through it for 9 months then the rest of my life. (It has a far bigger impact on the mother's life and career, generally.) His opinion would be considered but wouldn't actually change my mind about hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 12:19 AM
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The OP isn't about being hateful towards one woman. It's about the manosphere being hateful towards women, and I posited that it is wrong of the manosphere to consider women "the enemy." Definitely not about one individual woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:57 PM
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All that waffle you spouted was completely irrelevant to the concept of seeing women as enemies. So you don't like government health care policies made by men and women, or equality... still doesnt make sense to see women as your enemy!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:10 PM
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So you feel that AW (that's the All Women from RP's AWALT,) have placed themselves in opposition to you? I think you should seek psychological help!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:06 PM
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Should everyone love their enemies and turn the other cheek? There's your problem- it's treating women as enemies when there is no need to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:07 PM
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Christ, as I saw another redditor exclaim in a different thread yesterday.... the things you have to explain on this subreddit. Sex should be enjoyable for both people having sex. That's generally why they do it, to enjoy it. I never said men should never have fun, I never said they have to pay for it with money or orgasms, just that both partners should enjoy it. No I don't oppose casual sex, that's a massive leap to make from some women don't orgasm during casual sex. Yes it's less likely to o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:10 PM
1

I think feminists want men to be equal, and to be equal with men. They want men to be feminists. It's the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 07:55 AM
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This is the modern world not a primeval swamp. I'd feel uncomfortable making the man pay everything. (But in support of your point I still like to see that he isn't a dosser as I get to know him.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 07:14 AM
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This is the modern world not a primeval swamp. I'd feel uncomfortable making the man pay everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 07:12 AM
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I work for Social Services and was thinking of studying to become a Social Worker, which would be the logical career progression for me. There are programmes I can apply for where the tuition would be free and I would get paid while studying. However I had to let it go because I have two children and I just wouldn't be able to do such a demanding job and also parent them to the standard I currently do. Even part time I would be stressed and exhausted and have mountains of paperwork to do after I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 08:09 PM
1

I'm going to overlook the fact that you just implied that my wife is a scumbag and ask you why you think I treat her like shit? Different people want different things. I'm sure some women want a leader, in my experience most want equality. (Even if that means different gender roles, complementary strengths etc.) People cheat, by implying that women do it more, RP is clearly implying them to be scumbags. As it is with all the hypergamy bullshit and all the rest of it. (Not denying that some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 09:19 AM
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Lol do you think the only way a man can feel pleasure is if the woman feels none? That is jaw-dropping misreading there. It is actually normal for both partners to enjoy sex, believe it or not!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 09:06 AM
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The red pill is wrong, wrong, wrong. So wrong about women. I know this, because I am one. However, a stopped clock is right twice a day, so for that very tiny minority of pathetic, scumbag women about whom the red pill holds some truth, yes it is still immoral to treat them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:43 PM
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What a warped worldview. First, no women don't want as little sex as possible. We (mostly) want a loving relationship and satisfying sex. So down falls that house of cards. Second, get over this victim complex. No I don't want "low SMV men would "know their place and die a virgin." That is mean and vicious, just as calling a woman who happens to have committed the crime of ageing a "post-wall woman." Who someone would only commit to out of "desperation." I oppose prostitution because I don't lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:32 PM
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"Truths" You are pretty far gone down the rabbit hole, you poor thing. I'm pretty sure there are men on the Red Pill who would scoff at having slept with 20 people, even if ALL WOMEN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD had slept with 20, which of course is Grade A bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 08:07 PM
1

The 'message' of these comics goes far beyond 'young people have sex before marriage,' and you know it. This, and others, generally accuse women of 'slutting it up' with one set of guys then marrying a different set of guys with an air of hatred and all the red pill tropes we know and love. The fact is most healthy people have a series of monogamous relationships until they find the right one, with a bit of casual sex in between. No sexism required.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 05:05 PM
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You have expressed the question as if the truth of these comics is a given. It isn't. To the vast majority of non-misogynists, they aren't true and reveal how red pillers view women. Which is kind of funny which is why The Blue Pill exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 08:25 AM
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Hatred though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 08:26 PM
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Ah, so women are under-represented in politics and business because of their great privelidge in having to choose between family and kids, unlike the poor men who can have it all. First class hamstering there. I suppose black people are under represented in the echelons of power because slavery and all the shit since was somehow a privelidge too by that logic? Go on, hamster that one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:59 AM
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I think you have a warped perspective on having to give up your career to have kids being a positive thing. It isn't. Of course it is a choice men can also make. It is almost as if you are trying to argue that women are under represented in politics and business because they are more 'privelidged' in giving up their careers to have children! Seriously? All those poor world leaders and CEO's who all yearned to spend their 30's changing nappies and doing laundry and dishes instead! Come on man, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 10:56 PM
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You answered your own question. Women are very often forced to choose between career or family. Men are typically able to have children and keep working on their career. This is much harder for women because at the moment only a few enlightened Scandinavian countries have shared maternity/ parental leave and cheap state subsidised childcare. Here in the UK, it isn't cost effective for both parents to work full time in average jobs, and it is usually the woman who goes part time. Of course men co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 10:10 PM
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No and we don't giggle and bat eyelashes and give prolonged stares to every random dude on the tube either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:38 PM
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It is a vast topic and very well documented. Why don't you start by imagining your own gender so under-represented in politics and upper echelons of business and work your way down to having to choose between your career and having kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:36 PM
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Ah the old 'all women have it easier than all men.' It's a bit myopic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:00 PM
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I'm European as it happens, and I call bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:58 PM
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Men and women are different, and it is possible to generalise about how they tend to be different. I think a lot of this is down to hormone balance which is why we can get masculine women and feminine men on a broad spectrum. Different but equal, with great and shitty people of both genders. Another thing is that there is a very small portion of thin, beautiful, privelidged women who are incredibly spoiled and probably live life on 'easy mode.' They trade on their looks and never had to develop …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:38 PM
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Really odd way of conceding your mistake, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 03:43 PM
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Do you know any grown ups that aren't on reddit? Bet you they've never heard of tumblrina feminism or any of that nonsense. It isn't remotely mainstream, it is just a strawman which helps your sexist worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 10:02 PM
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I agree that being drunk and hooking up isn't rape. The other stuff I think you've exaggerated and missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 10:00 PM
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Feminism is the dictionary definition of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 09:58 PM
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We aren't sexist or misandric. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 09:58 PM
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No but dictionaries are pretty close.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 09:57 PM
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How so? We take the piss out of sexist people, and believe in gender equality. That is not hypocritical at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 11:27 AM
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It sounds like you lack real world experience. I work for social services and we de-stress with gallows humour all the time, then go out and do our jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 11:12 AM
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Even if that was the case, the debate here is what the blue pill and blue pillers are. In the context of the blue pill, feminism is gender equality therefore of course these views are standard on a sub ridiculing sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 11:11 AM
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It's a fact, read a dictionary. Although a lot of children on reddit with no grasp on history or reality seem to link it with tumblr nonsense, which most people will never encounter unless they go on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 07:34 AM
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I agree with some of your points, however they are all completely and utterly irrelevant to what I said. I guess you are one of these poor lost reddit souls who confuses gender equality with tumblr bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/16 07:18 AM
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What's wrong with having a slant towards gender equality? That seems kind of obvious if we are taking the piss out of sexist people!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:22 PM
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Haha, you haven't been in a Social services staff room. If we didn't joke about the car crashes we work seriously with, we'd go mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:21 PM
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Course you can, they're different subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:18 PM
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Dictionary definition for you: objectify ɒbˈdʒɛktɪfʌɪ/Submit verb 1. express (something abstract) in a concrete form. "good poetry objectifies feeling" 2. degrade to the status of a mere object. "a deeply sexist attitude that objectifies women" So if you express sexual desire to a woman that is different to degrading her to the status of a mere object. Expressing sexual desire to women on the street, that sounds like harassment and is objectifying. To refer back to the OP, women do not find this…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 03:15 PM
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Yeah, I don't think what you're describing is 'objectifying.' You can tell someone that you want their body and that they are sexy, 'objectifying' is a whole different misogynistic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 02:58 PM
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It sounds as though you are confusing 'objectified' with 'wanted.' I want my man to lust after me, sure, but I also want him to respect me, not think of me only as a sex object. These things are not mutually exclusive! Could you describe how objectifying women let you 'know a woman's touch?' I'm curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:02 PM
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I think you made a strawman over the 80 year old woman thing. It is something you red pillers do a lot- ignore the correct main point and focus on a tangent. My point isn't nit-picking at all. When discussing how many women 'ride the carousel' or in human language 'sleep around a lot,' you made an assertion that MOST WOMEN have short relationships, f-buddies, blah blah blah. I strongly disagree with that assertion, being a woman and not knowing any women who see relationships that way or sleep a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 03:30 PM
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It illustrates the point that you shouldn't say 'most women.' And you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:30 PM
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It isn't pedantic. 'Most women' is very, very different to 'a small minority of women on American college campuses.' Furthermore, it is entirely pertinent to the OP because we are discussing what proportion of women 'ride the CC.'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 01:54 PM
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Do you have a source for that assertion? It definitely isn't like that with anyone I know. I'm a 33 year old British woman, but you said 'most women' without any specification of age or nationality so you obviously think you speak for me as well as 'most women'. I wonder if you have any age limit on your 'most women' or do you actually think 80 year olds in care homes are having serial fuckbuddy hook ups? Anyway, for all I know it could be like that for a very small, super-hot and privelidged mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 08:05 PM
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Ok well thanks for clearing that up. So in your interpretation, ANY casual sex is riding the carousel. Therefore, OP's question becomes "What % of women ever have casual sex even once in their life." Be honest, that isn't really what OP meant, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 07:55 PM
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I was under the impression that the 'cock carousel' was sleeping around with lots of men, which my example clearly wasn't. Perhaps you just don't like the idea of women having sex with more than one person in their life? If that's the case then I think you are misleading the thread because the term 'cock carousel' becomes (even more) meaningless. How few men in how many years would not be 'riding the carousel' for you? As an example- If I had the same boyfriend for 5 years and only slept with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:54 PM
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I'd say about 1 or 2% in my experience. The vast, vast majority mostly just have sex in relationships with maybe the occasional hook-up on a magical starry night.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 12:52 PM
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Like you said, sometimes they care, sometimes they don't. It depends on the guy and what sort of relationship you have with him. Also, of course, whether he's a complete fucking selfish douchebag. In which case I suppose you kind of deserve what you get for fucking him in the first place!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:59 PM
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Of course it can really happen! Probably not out of the blue, but if you've fucked before and that's all it is, why the hell not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:45 PM
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For me, yes it definitely is, and it has to be PinV, anything else just isn't sex if it doesn't end in PinV and I'd rather not get started. I get angry just thinking about when guys try to skimp on the PinV! That doesn't speak to the incel thing for me, though. Bad sex is better than no sex, but that doesn't mean there is any appeal in having sex with someone I find repulsive. I just wouldn't want to. I've had it with people I don't like in times of desperation, but there have been plenty of occ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:42 PM
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No of course not! It is by your logic though... along with all electrical appliances and battery-powered gizmos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 08:07 AM
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Firstly, the last half of your post it totally gross and bullshit- all that shite about "pre-wall women," and people having quantifiable value from their looks, age and pay. Come on, love and human relationships are more complex than that! Grow up! Anyway to answer the question- Yes if it was a set-up that worked then of course, that would be great! Having experienced being a full time housewife on two bouts of lovely European year-long maternity leave, I know how hard it is and wouldn't wish it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 12:53 AM
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Gonna state the obvious, Vibrators aren't robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 12:46 AM
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I go a bit wierd and hormonal after about 3 weeks without sex. I can't stand going without and it really messes me up. When I was single it was really hard going months without sex, and I had sex with people I shouldn't have a few times because I just needed the P in V. I think I am more highly sexed than most women though, I masturbated a lot from the age of about 11. 1- This is a big worry for me and women people I know. Finding a partner is one of the most important things in life! Be it Mr R…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 12:41 AM
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Women don't get free hookers, and we want equal pay for equal work so OP's feelings of entitlement to sex with unwilling women is completely irrelevant...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:42 PM
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If which part were true? In what way do older women and nerdy young women confirm AWALT? And like what anyway- the usual shitty things RP says about women? I know a lot of women who are all very different, and a lot of men who are all very different. I know shitty women and awesome women, shitty men and awesome men. To return to the OP, I think some RP theory does apply to SOME shitty people- ie that they are selfish, manipulative and shitty- but to claim that gender makes a person more biased t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 09:35 PM
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Yes, I made a post about this once. Some people are selfish, some people are unreliable, use others, lack maturity and logic, etc etc. Obviously not all people, not all men, and not all women. I think the vast majority of people are basically decent. I think a factor in RP is that they only really notice super-hot young women and those are slightly more likely to be a bit spoiled and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 01:09 PM
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I'm in my 30's, and there are literally none in my work or social circle so I'm going to say very rare. Also I'm pretty sure if we knew one we would all ridicule him. I think it's very much an American High school/ college thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:46 AM
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I don't think I've known anyone get rejected for any physical reason, in person. It just doesn't happen, people have tact and make excuses. Also it would be shallow to reject someone because they were muscly, even if your preference is not very muslcy, which is my preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 08:55 PM
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Just because blue pill opposes red pill, it doesn't mean it is a homogenous entity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 11:28 AM
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I was describing my own experience, which demonstrates that AF/BB isn't the only explanation for this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 09:11 PM
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I think you're mistake is thinking that the woman was more into the other guy, and more compatible with him, because she did certain things with him. This isn't the case. I don't do sexual acts that I don't want to do because of some sliding scale of how much I like the guy as you are suggesting- that indicates that all women use sex as some sort of bartering tool. Most of us do things that we want to, some things we may have wanted to do them back then and we don't want to do them now, it has n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 01:03 PM
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See you are still talking about sex as if it is a service provided or transaction on the woman's part. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:17 PM
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I find it amazing that you think that. I am much less likely to have any sex at all with an 'unstable bad boy.' Cringe. There could be a correlation between 'nice guys' not asking for or instigating rougher sex but you can certainly be a nice person and also a sexual reprobate. It probably comes with age and experience. No offence but you come across as immature, inexperienced and bitter making comments like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:16 PM
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Going to share my experience. I have a high sex drive and when I was single I was ridiculously sex deprived. I was desperate and the whole "Women can get sex anytime," narrative is bullshit, at least in the UK and Japan where I've experienced being a single woman. So over the months I get really really horny and feel so sexed up I want to do anything and everything. I'm not doing certain things because he's a 'bad boy,' I just want to be more freaky because of all the pent up hormones. Then when…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 02:33 PM
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Similar attitude to sex, and they probably both have high sex drives. Obviously there are lots of reasons why people sleep around so it isn't guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/16 08:59 PM
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If you also have a high 'n-count' then you will have that in common, for a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 04:35 AM
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Outside the red pill, sweeping prejudice and hate-mongering are seen as bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 08:00 PM
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Horrified, like any sensible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:04 AM
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Yeah, I think the proof will be in the pudding. You say we should 'criticise the women who gobble up RP tactics,' but none have as far as your 'success' is concerned. I'm predicting a cringe-fest when you do, quite frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:45 AM
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Because you are claiming that half the human race are more shallow and less trustworthy than the other half because of what's in their underpants, like a raving lunatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:39 AM
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Wow...I think you are serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:30 PM
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I don't think even Terpers think it has a monopoly on success, or that the rest of the male human population are all "Stay at home Dads and Cucks." Like being a SAHD is a bad thing anyway, those guys have balls!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:27 PM
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I thought they weren't gobbling you just yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 08:23 PM
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Because men's restrooms stink
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 02:16 PM
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Couldn't care less. They are women, they want to be treated as women, let them use the women's restroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 02:16 PM
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I'm not even attracted to people out of my league really, I like character.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:09 AM
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If you pretend to like the kardashians to pull some idiot, when you don't really like them, that's fake. Wearing nicer clothes is just wearing nicer clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:07 AM
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Income- not really a factor in my world. This is for the lot, in my left wing world people just meet and see how much they like each other, it seems wierd to make a distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 09:19 PM
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Wow, what a disgusting fatty! (That's a sarcastic joke, reddit...)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 09:15 PM
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Your best SELF. Therefore yourself, not a fake version. Some interpretations could be- If I excercise and eat better I am a better looking, slimmer version of myself. If I don't do those things, I am a fatter version of myself. If I was looking for love I would exercise and eat better to be a slimmer version of myself. Get it? Also in dating terms, a 'better version of myself' is to try to be confident. It isn't fake. If it was fake it would be a fake version of yourself, not a better one. Shees…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 09:12 PM
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All sounds like common sense to me- of course being the best version of yourself is preferable. You would have to have some kind of sociopathic disorder not to understand that. It doesn't contradict not being fake at all. I guess if you have difficulty understanding the various implications of "Be yourself" then you're pretty fucked in terms of relationships anyway!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:46 PM
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Well, to most people it would go without saying that for "be yourself," to work, you have to be a decent person to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 11:19 AM
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Meh with me it's more about not having a perfect body myself, I want someone with similar priorities. Not a big fatty or anything but enjoys food and life too much to have abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 11:16 AM
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Have you heard of Dadbod? Course there is. Seth Rogen gets to be in Rom-Coms. (Quite rightly, he's cute!) Check 'the hotness gap.' My male friends with big tums do absolutely fine, Mind you I'm in the over 30's bracket personality is much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:17 PM
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"Be yourself" should actually be "Become a great, happy, confident person and then Be Yourself." I expect that as most Blue Pillers are probably decent people with a sense of humour anyway, that is why "Be Yourself," has worked just fine for them. I think this rankles RPers because they just tried 'be yourself' without taking care to be great, happy confident people, so it didn't work. I think they get sucked into RP because it tells them to improve, (become greater,) gives tricks to feel more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:07 PM
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No, it's the misogyny that Blue pillers have the problem with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:57 PM
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Ah, the old "Nice guys are doormats" strawman, "but women don't like doormats, therefore they like assholes!" Bullshit, you can be nice and also be assertive and confident. Women are more likely to like this than a doormat. Doesn't mean they like assholes. The spinning someone around and overt sexual comments, would very much depend on the situation and your relationship with the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:43 PM
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Not remotely fairly represented in government or even amongst the upper echelons of management. Expected to give up career or go part time after having kids. Forced into this by high nursery costs and culture which doesn't usually allow fathers to also go part time after having kids. Working and still doing most of the housework. Granted these are more cultural than systematic and legal. Highly pervasive though affecting millions of people's everyday lives. I gather there is a bit of a legal qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 08:54 PM
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I agree with Highog, but also strongly agree that a legal document detailing all of these issues should be drawn up before any marriage becomes legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:02 PM
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Ok sorry I was focusing on Westerners who are comparatively rich along with OP. Should have specified. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 08:08 AM
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I agree, if I was an incel man I would go teach English in a developing country, wife in no time. I guess incel is more to do with attitude and state of mind than sex being impossible to get. Now I sound like one of those gits writing about how women can get casual sex any minute of the day!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:00 PM
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LOL you linked my first sentence to feminism, as I pre-empted some person who can't deal with women's eqiality would. No-one should be forced into the army, and it's pretty unlikely to happen to men. When MRA's bring that up, they're really scraping the barrel for reasons to feel aggrieved. Alimony- yes fathers should support their own children. Also, the definition of feminism is a movement seeking EQUALITY for women. There you go- explained how it isn't a movement that wants men to have fewer …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:59 PM
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I think you would struggle to find a movement which actually wanted men to have fewer rights than women and belittled them, saying they are all the same etc. I'm pretty sure the only men he called 'pathetic' are the ones who can't deal with women's equality, ie, would link my first sentence to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:19 PM
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Sure, if she's cool with it. I'd imagine in that situation she wouldn't be. Or what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 12:52 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:32 AM
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Woman with 2 kids here. The benefit for me is certainly not "get money." I work part time now, definitely not financially better off. I was a single mum for a while, my ex did pay towards his own child but he was still better off financially than when we were together, and a hell of a lot better off than I was. You forgot all the happiness. That's the benefit for both genders. Blissful happiness, contentment and love. Considering a third.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:29 PM
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"The only solution is adopting an aggressive asshole personality..." There's your big mistake, that is neither the only solution or a solution at all. My recommended solution would be give up on casual sex, (it might happen every now and again but don't bother pursuing it,) be honest with people, build friendship networks and find a nice girlfriend. Don't be aggressive, or an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:22 PM
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Resource extraction is a human tendency in general, ie we need resources to survive, but not a tendency to seek it from our modern romantic relationships in the way OP said. I don't see half the human race as schlubs to be mined for resources. And no, I'm always positing to RPers that men have the same negative character traits as women but they really think women are more selfish, manipulative etc etc. Ridiculous I know!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:13 PM
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Meh, have a straight answer. -"Here's what women really want..." You are mistaken, women are not a hive mind, we don't all want the same thing and the vast majority are not the way RP describes women, nor do they want what RP thinks they want. Nor do they want what RP actually delivers. -Guys getting buff and looking better is all very well and good, nobody has a problem with that. Be honest though, that isn't all TRP is though, is it? There is a lot of woman-hating going on there. For example..…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 01:17 PM
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Sorry the awkward truth is that I lived the second one throughout my teens, I was absolutely desperate for sex, wanking 10 times a day desperate, but didn't want to be thought of as a 'slut.' I said 'no' but believe me, I wanted it with every fibre of my being but what I actually needed was to feel convinced that he didn't think of me as a slut. Which is why you shouldn't have a slut shamey attitude boys! I will stress again to those red pillers who are confused- slut shaming doesn't just affect…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:11 AM
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That shit drove me crazy and gave me the only spate of suicidal thoughts I've ever had. So I came off and got accidentally pregant about 2 weeks later. So sure, insure yourself against women on implanon, it's going to be a very small subset of women, or your girlfriend will go so insane you'll split up anyway!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:00 AM
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The voice of reason. OP take heed! I totally agree. Also if it was legal, on the practical and emotional side, imagine being raised by absent Daddy's insurance policy. You probably live in the same area, and the Mom might easily be a friend or colleague of the Dad. Would you be required to not see the child? Or could you still be their Dad and hqve a relationship but all the payments come from your insurance? What if you then got together with the Mum? Would the insurance just go towards your fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 05:55 AM
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I don't mind. Can I have VR/ robot sex too? I wonder how those of us in relationships would feel about each other doing it, or our kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:59 PM
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Yes but in this example the girl has a guy but she is making him wait for sex, to the extent that he's going to fuck other people while he's waiting. It's all too idiotic isn't it!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 06:05 AM
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Fair point, he said she isn't his girlfriend yet. Doesn't make sense really does it because usually when girls want to wait, it's so they don't have sex with them straightaway. Horrible mind games wrapped up in guilt over female sexuality bleurgh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:56 AM
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So...you'll wait...but cheat on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:57 PM
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I don't cultivate my femininity and I'm not sure why anyone would. As it happens, I do a lot of feminine things like cook and take care of my house and family, my hair is feminine and I find skirts more comfortable than trousers. I also like gaming and digging my allotment. I expect that healthy people like me just live the way they want to whether it is more masculine or feminine. Your question seems a bit accusatory, like you think women should strive to be feminine? Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:53 PM
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Yes it does because it's not only women being serial monogamists. Most normal guys are also having sex in relationships. It roughly corresponds to the women having relationships. (Obviously.) Which is much more than 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 05:59 PM
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No! I can imagine it possibly being the case in some social circles in some American high schools, ie very shallow jocks and cheerleeder types. But for the vast majority of grown ups in the Western world, people with jobs and houses, people are generally serial monogamists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 12:51 PM
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Yep. Could have been in a long term relationship, or very antisocial for any reason, maybe she used to be very fat... We really don't step out of our homes and receive endless offers of sex and relationships with viable men however much the manosphere like to hinge their beliefs on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 12:56 PM
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I liken it to watching documentaries about the Westboro Baptist Church, or the KKK, but you get to actually interact with the prejudiced people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 12:50 PM
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Ah no you're mistaken. Both men and women have to find someone who wants to have sex with them in order to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:45 PM
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Poor kid whichever way this guy shirks his fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:42 PM
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Eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 06:41 PM
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This is needed of those beautiful occasions where ppd amends my opinion. As the woman is more responsible, it being her choice to keep the child, she should be more responsible for the child. So perhaps in a situation where only she wants to keep it, he doesn't have to marry her, he doesn't have to raise the child. Of course, he did have sex and so still has some responsibility, and the living breathing child is his so he could maybe just pay something towards the child's maintenance and have so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 03:48 PM
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It is relevant but not definitive. The subject is complicated and the whole process of pregnancy and childbirth is unfair between the sexes. (Just ask female athletes!) Relevant or not, the pregnancy results from a mistake on the part of both parents, even if the woman has the option of having her future child scrambled up and bled out to haunt her for the rest of her days.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:54 PM
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Fair enough, not equal responsibility for the baby being born. The woman has more responsibility for the baby being born as she could have chosen abortion. All mothers are more responsible for babies being born than the fathers are, because they can theoretically choose abortions. Agreed. This does not mean that fathers have no responsibility to support their own children. Just because they are men does not mean they do not have responsibility towards their living, breathing children, even if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:50 PM
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People are ignoring it because it is an obvious fact. It is also irrelevant to the debate on who is responsible for the baby that could result from the pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:18 PM
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Some people don't consider it an option. I'm not just talking about pro-life wingnuts either, I couldn't do it whether I was getting money from the Dad or not. Whether the Dad is going to shirk payment is not a big part of the decision whether or not to have an abortion, it's more about how much it's going to fuck you up. It isn't like flipping a switch, it's something a lot of people who find themselves pregnant decide they can't go through with whether they want to be a parent or not. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:17 PM
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Both parents mistake- now who's shirking responsibility???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 10:27 PM
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His say was when he pit his pee-pee in her vee-vee, which always comes with risk of pregnancy. Maybe financial abortion wing-nuts need to make all this clear to the girl before having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 10:25 PM
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My partner was unemployed when I met him and earned less for the first year or so. Earns more now, and looks a lot better. Sorry if this doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 12:32 PM
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She never said that men have it easier. Just that it isn't the cakewalk RPERS make out being a woman to be. It's a great OP and I heartily agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:25 PM
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Where are you getting your info from? Alimony is of course currently needed because yes, even though homemakers can find work after divorce, they won't find it at the same pay as if they had been working on their careers for the past 10 or however many years that they were the homemaker in partnership with an earner. Also, the cost of childcare means that working barely pays in this situation. Despite getting alimony, the homemaker is almost always the worse off after a divorce. And of course it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 07:07 AM
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Not necessarily. At the moment it's fairly normal for, after kids, men to keep working full time and women to drop down to 2 or 3 days work with a couple of days paid childcare. What if all parents were allowed to drop down to 3 or 4 days instead, still with a couple of days childcare? It isn't a big change but would work wonders for equality, benefitting men and women. As for making men less inclined to want children too, all the better for the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 06:46 AM
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So you say. But I say it doesn't affect women in these ways either- it's total bullshit. It may have some of these affects on some men, some on some women. It sounds more like a way for sexist men to have their cake and eat it- "I wanna have premarital sex but marry a Virgin, let me just hamster some reasons why that isn't sexist and hypocritical..."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 10:22 AM
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They could all apply to anyone, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 10:56 PM
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HAHAHA What a silly question. What a daft corner of the Internet this is!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 10:47 PM
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Why does everyone think that because people find the question weird, that they want to avoid answering it? I have no problem answering it. Also I agree with talking about sex. Context is much more illuminating than a number though, ie is this person a serial monogamist or have they had lots of one night stands? Asking for a number just seems really juvenile.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 07:04 AM
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Statement: "I'm not insecure about saying my number count, but I think it is a wierd, immature thing to ask and in your 30's it isn't in the forefront of your mind." Response: "Sex is an important part of being a human being and being in a relationship...There is nothing inherently weird or bizarre about sex." You created a strawman in that you answered as if I had somehow said that sex wasn't an important part of relationships, or that there is something weird about sex. I said or hinted at no …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 03:26 PM
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Nice strawman you constructed there!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:37 AM
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So things said about women in general don't apply to me because I am one specific woman, but they probably do anyway. My still-relevant response is: "The shit they say about me isn't true."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 10:36 AM
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That's a shame for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:46 PM
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Wow, that is the most mansplainiest mansplaining I have ever encountered!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:45 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:56 PM
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They're wrong. Source: I'm female and the shit they say about me isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:54 PM
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I'm totally honest. All for honesty about sexual history, but obsessing about it in minute detail is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:52 PM
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I'm not insecure and I have no problem answering the question. No insecurity about it in the slightest. It's a weird, immature question though, and in your 30's it really isn't at the forefront of your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:51 PM
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You kind of pick things up about someone's sexual history as you get to know them, and there's nothing wrong with asking about STD's. It's asking for a number that seems really juvenile and in some situations slut shamey.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:45 AM
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Why the LOL? I couldn't have put it more succinctly myself. If a guy asked how many people I'd slept with I'd assume he had a mental age of 12 and back away slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:42 AM
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You know what? I'm blue pill and I kind of agree. Your number should be nothing to be ashamed of, so why shouldn't you say it? You think the guy has some sort of issue with your past and won't react well? Well then you probably aren't compatible. To be honest, I'd hear warning bells and question the relationship if he even asked, it is a really immature and teenaged thing to ask. Or even know once you're in your thirties. Lying is never good, and if you feel you have to lie to your partner, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:40 AM
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Here for fun. I find shocking, offensive things really funny and it's extra entertaining because its about meeeeee, a woman! Also, when I first encountered Red Pill, it seems laughable now, I was worried that seemingly so many people were so prejudiced. Like The Westboro Baptist church of sexism online. Purple pill is brilliant because you can unpick it and really confirm the fact that to espouse these beliefs really requires a near-total suspension of logic and intelligence. These people are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:36 AM
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Ok. Getting somewhere. This is the crux of the debate- what are the consequences? Red Pill has some pretty crazy ideas about what they are. In my normal left wing life and experience, the consequences of being a single woman with a high sex drive, and doing what I want, is that I have some casual sex while I wait for Mr. Right to come along, because I am a human being with sexual urges. I go on dates, if I think they're OK I give them a chance and a couple more dates, have sex the second or thir…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:27 AM
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The zygote turns into a baby. I had an accidental pregnancy. It turned into a baby. The thought of my partner just signing away his responsibility is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:21 AM
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It can take years (or decades) to find someone you want to marry. What do we do in the meantime? Also, even once finding the one, why the deny the pleasure of p in v? Months and months of frustration sounds hellish. RP men aren't told to go through anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:57 PM
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They created it together. Abortions are a lot harder than signing a piece of paper. I don't think I could do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:40 PM
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Welcome to the world, shit happens. In this situation the child exists, the man is a father. It's a lot more work and sacrifice for the single mum who didn't want an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:38 PM
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That's different to rescuing them though isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 09:35 PM
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And it is null and void if the girl is pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 04:32 PM
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I think this 'financial abortion' shit is ridiculous, odious, devoid-of-empathy crazy talk. You can't compare the horror of undergoing an abortion with signing away your responsibilities. (Please don't mistake this sentiment for pro-life, I'm British, we don't entertain that lunacy either.) However, I do like your thinking about the mandatory vasectomy. Then they go through at least a fraction of the physical and emotional trauma that they are expecting the girl to go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 04:32 PM
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No way. I want to feel like I'm a catch, rather than worry about being cheated on or thought of as second-best.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:53 AM
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Yes it is possible to say something negative about women without being misogynist. Misogyny is Woman-hating. 1- Not misogynist 2- Not misogynist 3- Not misogynist but very sexist. Why are you singling out women? All people can lie, so nothing anybody says can be trusted. Also the fact that you used this particular example of N-count suggests that you are one of these internet nerds who attach some deep significance to the number of people women have slept with, in a different way you would attac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:46 AM
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Go on, where are all these guys who try to rescue women to get sex? And how would that even work on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:30 AM
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"Coaching for peak performance." yeah...science. Also, even if it is a commonly used term, (which it isn't outside the manosphere,) that doesn't mean that these idiots are common in real life. Which they are not. I know a couple of guys who like to rescue women and always date downtrodden/ anxious/ etc girls, but they are also well rounded human beings who don't have any problems talking to women or getting sex. They aren't just doing it in the hopes of getting sex or in lieu of normal interacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 11:29 AM
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Never met one, people aren't that simplistic. I think it's a red pill construct to slander any guys who stick up for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 09:05 PM
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Your sentence doesn't really make sense but I've never heard of nice guy shaming. Nice people are great! In the adult world, people like nice people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:41 AM
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I don't think they lack empathy, they just don't want to fuck them. This is a problem nowhere else but in the manosphere, as it shouldn't be. I'm sure lots of men wouldn't want to fuck me, you don't see me sitting here having an entitled man hating cry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:40 AM
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Well it's pretty fucking mental. Misogynist is hatred of women, I guess rape survivors could be male or female, so it depends. Whichever way, if you blanket wouldn't date a rape survivor then you're a pretty shitty person and probably hate people, so, yeah. Anyway, the thing about dating a rape survivor is completely irrelevant as to whether Blue Pillers have to follow your three ridiculous points of never criticising women etc? Even if you draw tenuous links, whether someone would date survivor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:37 AM
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Yeah, there is also a lot of "waahh, women don't know my pain." It's all that hilarious rubbish that keeps me coming back for more!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 10:31 AM
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That's weird, here I was thinking I was blue pill yet none of those apply to me or any of the comments I've ever read by Blue Pillers... Oh how desperately you want us to be crazy feminazis with our heads up our asses!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 10:03 PM
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How would harsh tone piss off the bloopers? We're (some of us) here because we're fascinated and entertained by the gore!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 10:00 PM
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You sure you're red pill? Upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:54 PM
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That statement didn't agree with OP at all. He was using that obnoxious red-pillism that women all want Chads and men out of their league, and that is the only way they can be without sex and relationships. It's total bullshit and denotes a total lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:53 PM
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I'm not representing all feminists. I'm demonstrating that because the vast majority of western people believe in equal rights for women, you can't possibly generalise on the 'feminist viewpoint.' Especially if you are one of the internet misogynists who tend to look at a few crazy radfems and blame women's equality for all societies ills. You may not be a red piller but you are certainly doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/15 07:52 AM
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Those who believe in equal rights have a wide range of other opinions which are not homogenous. There will be some nutters, as there are in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 01:00 PM
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Thankyou for demonstrating my point- its too complex and you just don't get it. I guess that is what allows people to be red pill in the first place. It's the same as: "If you could reason with religious people then there wouldn't be any religious people."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:59 PM
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I didn't read it all, but the situation seems very stupid and indeed if anyone was raped, then he was. I am of the opinion that if you are raped you can seek help anytime, but as far as making accusations go you have a very small window when the physical evidence is there, if you don't report it then, then you have to accept that no consequences can really come about. I'm stating this to demonstrate that the idea of feminists and blue pillers being illogical and hysterical about this subject is …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 12:57 PM
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Hmm I'm skeptical. I think the problem is that you people can't understand the ethical boundary between drunk hook-up and raping someone who is blind drunk and devoid of all mental faculties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 10:25 AM
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...Or getting drunk and laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:42 AM
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What planet are you internet people on where people don't get drunk and have sex? It's well known. And those articles don't even demonstrate your nutty point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:41 AM
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Haha, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 05:39 AM
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Oh, its on a website you say? Must stand for all those who believe people should have equal rights!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:47 PM
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I believe that is called 'nut picking.'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:46 PM
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Pretty much spot on, yes it is a strawman. Thankyou!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:42 PM
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As a feminist in a relationship, what a load of bullshit. People drink alcohol and get laid, what a crazy reddit strawman. Can't believe you think that is fair enough, or linked to feminism. So no, he would have cheated on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 07:10 PM
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I think you need to be much better looking than average to make money from your body like that. The point you are making concerns a tiny, tiny proportion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:20 PM
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All COMPLETELY irrelevant to consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 08:14 PM
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That's rich considering the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 08:24 PM
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R/redpillorsaudiarabia
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:07 AM
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You answered it in the question- they weren't very socially well-adjusted. In other words, unconfident. Once they worked, they had more confidence, and also as you get older people are more into settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:06 AM
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I dread this! We have kids so I couldn't break up. (He recently started smoking again, I hate it but am powerless!) Just keep trying to cook healthy meals and go for walks, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 07:50 AM
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I think that's going a bit far. I'm generally honest, some people aren't, I don't think it's a gender thing. (See my duplicitous, lying, manipulative ex, who is male.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:11 PM
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My thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 09:51 AM
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Not as much as personality. Mind you there's a difference between muscled posers and completely out of shape- I wouldn't go out with a fat person. I like a little beer belly but no more! (Kind of in line with my own level.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:23 AM
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It is much too full on to say to guys you only just met "I'd like children in a couple of years and if I don't get started soon I will run out of time."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 07:19 AM
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The first thing I thought of was all the women over 30 having to admit that they wanted to marry and have a baby ASAP. It's already a ridiculous doublethink type situation that we all have to go round saying "Oh I don't mind, if it happens, it happens." Been there, thankfully not there any more! Apart from that I was fairly honest- I wanted an honest, geek-leaning guy who was looking for a fun, easy-going lady. I don't understand all these posts saying men would lift more. Big muscles and liftin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 09:52 PM
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No, I think as boundaries between the genders lessen and the lines get blurred, gender politics are getting more friendly and easy going. Not the case in this little corner of the internet, but I think the fact that having red pill views is a dirty little secret, rather than the norm as it was in society a few decades ago, shows how far we have come.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 09:45 PM
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Is it currently degenerating though? Apart from this corner of the internet I feel like things are getting better all the time between the genders, as the boundaries are much less rigid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 09:42 PM
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Yep, she's not the one. She's only 22 and she's still figuring things out, you're not the one for her either. Congrats on getting going, now find someone who is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 04:27 PM
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Ah complete disconnect. You even deny that some women parent. You got it bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 05:14 PM
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Wow you're pretty far gone with the women-hate! So millions of women, like me, get up early and spend their time looking after their families. Clearly we are responsible- it isn't debatable. Where's the disconnect?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:40 PM
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I really think you're only looking at it from one side. There are no fewer expectations on women, and of course loyalty, morality, responsibility etc apply to us too, if you're going to generalise. (I'm loyal to my partner, I make moral descisions, I am responsible for 3 people staying alive and accountable for all sorts of things.) To claim that about women is ridiculous. Obviously not all men or women, because we aren't hive minds and some people are shitty. Yes it is harder to get muscular th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:46 PM
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That's a bit much. The whole point of feminism is that women are equal people, women having agency is the literal point of feminism. I'm not going to rise to the woman's place in the home provocative bullshit. Except to say that if it is the woman's place, then it is the man's place is too. For most of history most people have lived a mostly subsistence living on large farmsteads with many generations together, where both genders had important economic tasks and roles in the home with no clear b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:27 AM
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Everything in moderation. Sure I like my man to help me sometimes and its attractive. It's only toxic if I give up and make him do everything that challenges me. If you read the context of my comment, 'not being a ho' isn't toxic, its the madonna-whore complex headfuck which normal, nice girls have to struggle with before they can have any sex at all. You Red Pillers do want nice, normal, non-slut girls to have some sex, (with you,) don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:16 AM
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Why the hostile competition over this? Why can't we just agree that both physical ideals are somewhat toxic and unattainable for most people? I like that Barbie/He-man meme and have posted it on Facebook in the past. It's true, we should address men's issues more. I have really don't understand why you can't empathise with both?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 07:11 AM
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Nothing you listed is sexual strategy, mostly just a list of cynical, shallow gripes and generalisations about modern women. If you can say how these things are sexual strategies, I'll say BP alternatives!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 07:00 PM
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Grammar problems!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:43 PM
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Totally agree, I think you hit the nail on the head with RPers missing out early on and now looking for women outside the friendship group. I think having left or right wing tendencies also plays a big part of it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 03:44 PM
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Lounge around, sex, cheese toastie, a bit of gaming, a movie, Sunday Roast or pizza or curry, maybe more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 03:41 PM
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"Why have you slept with so many people?" Would be my response. Take it from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 03:38 PM
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Damsel in distress syndrome- If it's difficult, give up and get your husband to do it. My Mum does this and I hate it. One great thing about the time I spent as a single Mum was that I learned to just get shit done myself, whether it was a masculine or feminine task. Beauty being everything. Lots of girls spend their younger years in a state of self loathing because they aren't model-thin or beautiful. It's our shitty media, most of the models are photoshopped and don't even look that good. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 10:00 AM
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33, live in a left wing city, never ever seen anything like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/15 09:11 PM
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Yeah Japanese, so crazy long hours. Very little flexibility and lots of pointless unnecessary overtime, so I think that's why so many Mums have to stop working.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 09:06 PM
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That's interesting. I kind of always think of Japan as Westernised, but in Asia. I lived there for three years and it felt a lot like a Western society. Still fairly red pill, too. (As in women less emancipated.) Like, many women worked full time but also did all the cooking and housework, also large cohorts who quit their jobs when they got married to look after their man-children. Few single moms...more pressure on women to look thin and feminine... No shit red pill works there. If you're a We…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 09:36 AM
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About inequality- I remain aware of mens real issues, try to be fair and equal, don't judge men for being emotional or displaying and 'non masculine' traits, I think men should get equal parental leave and flexibility, all the things you would expect a person who believes in equality to do. About men who can't get laid- This isn't an equality issue at all. If one asked me his advice, I'd tell him to get fit, get hobbies and confidence, try to be happy and see women as people just like him and wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 06:22 AM
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Go the relationship route to get steady sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 06:13 AM
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My response- funk her instead of bj so it's enjoyable for both of you. He's acting like a spoiled baby. Not enthusiastic enough after a 50 hour week? Tough shit like it or lump it you ungrateful sod!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 06:12 AM
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You added the 'only.' Now look up 'equality' in the dictionary
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 07:04 AM
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What, using a dictionary to define the meaning of a word?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:05 PM
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THANKYOU!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 08:01 PM
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According to the dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 07:59 PM
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What is it with you people and changing definitions of normal words? Single means single. Mum means Mum. Feminist means person who wants equality for women. Get a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:09 PM
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Oh Atlas, drop it. A single Mum is a Mum who is single, full stop. Circumstances are rarely simple, no matter how convenient you may find it to categorise half the human race. Seriously, you're trying to push this 'single Mum doesn't include divorcees and widows' all through the thread. Just stop!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 04:07 PM
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Yep, that guy is clearly winning at life!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 09:18 AM
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This. My partner will do things if I ask, he doesn't do it on purpose, but essentially I cook, wash clothes for and clean up after him as well as the kids. I even picked up 5 hoodies from next to his bed yesterday where he drops them every night. I'm not going to play a one-upmanship game of "who acts most like a kid," just that both genders do it. People are people, ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:50 AM
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Yeah but wouldn't a RP man prefer an enthusiastic plate or RPW girlfriend? (To cook for him as well as sex, as he won't cook?) He clearly did want to see her again as he got in touch, so I think he did, and fucked it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:39 AM
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Sorry you actually wrote some good comments on this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:30 AM
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I guess it's no surprise to us. RP man is shitty lay. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:26 AM
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Why troll? Sounds like a plausible shitty lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:23 AM
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Wouldn't her enjoying it and thus returning for more sex, either as a plate or unicorn red pill wife be better for a RP man?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:17 AM
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Jesus didn't you understand that it's slightly more complicated? As with a lot of sexual interactions for women? I thought she explained it really well, and all the RP virgins are like "Durr he got laid, win!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:15 AM
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You would consider that a success???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:11 AM
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Truth, definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 09:54 PM
1

Literally never heard of "player shaming."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 06:35 PM
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It's the endless generalisations about women being awful. Also crazy notions like equal rights for women being really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 06:34 PM
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The thing is, once you include child care, its endless. Childcare alone is full time then you have to squeeze all the other stuff in too. Cleaning wouldn't take long...if they didn't constantly mess the place up again. All these people saying a few hours a week...you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 06:29 PM
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I do, very much so, and I also have a high sex drive and typically masculine sense of humour. I must admit though, that I learned later in life that I have a very high level of testosterone. Things that I thought were just my personality, I started to consider how much were just down to hormones, especially when I went through the hormone changes of two pregnancies and became more 'girly.' It could be a coincidence, but it probably isn't. It is of course a ridiculous statement that women are tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 03:50 PM
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Blaming women for all your problems and getting angry at the idea that life is much easier for them might give some instant gratification, but it won't improve your life nor make you happy in the long run. Try believing people's testimony and giving them the benefit of the doubt, see the good in people. Try to be a good person and people will seem better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 06:03 PM
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Brilliant. Just go online and contradict people's life experiences. Genius. Of course, sex and romance is an all you can eat buffet for half the human race! If I was single I could take home a lanky nerd this evening just by walking to the right place! I was just doing it wrong for 20 years! Why did I bother with dating apps, no women need them they just need to walk out of their house and it magically happens! It's because I've got mammary glands! I think you need to ask yourself how you got to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 07:08 AM
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Bullshit. The food analogy doesn't stack up. Men aren't just lying around with "take a ticket and fuck me" labels on them, or items on a menu in a restaurant. If you aren't interested in any, and they aren't interested in you, then guess what, sex doesn't happen. Even if they were, THAT DOESNT APPEAL TO MOST WOMEN. Which was my point, which, thank you, you have proven. To me, a picky woman turns men down for arbitrary reasons, like their looks, or income, or height. I am not picky like that, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:58 AM
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Ah but they also keep whining that "It's really easy for women to get sex any time, they just need to walk out of their house..." They even contradict actual women who say this is not their experience, like me. They lack the empathy to understand that though the goalposts are different, women find it hard to find sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:42 AM
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This. I have gone up to years at a time, desperately craving sex, but never met anyone I was attracted too. And not through being too picky, I don't like typically good looking guys. My friends also. Yes we could in theory pick up casual sex more easily but not with people we want to have sex with. If terps could wrap their heads around that, they would see it isn't really all that easier for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:46 PM
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Yes but after months of getting to know them. I doubt they'd "turn things around" over the course of one party. Unless they were insanely funny and confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 07:35 PM
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It doesn't happen to every woman every single day, and unlike 'creep shaming,' it isn't a direct consequence of their actions. If you are personally being creep shamed every day, you might just be a bit of a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:46 PM
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That happens to you every single day?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 10:04 AM
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Probably. But it is subtle and takes a lot of empathy for men to understand, the kind of empathy that is sorely lacking in Red Pillers, who don't look beneath the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:29 PM
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This is a crazy Internet thing. Even in casual sex you can tell whether things are naturally turning into sex without always saying it out loud. In a relationship the idea is even more preposterous! I think this is a case of a few idiots on both sides making things stupidly PC for everyone. (Ie idiot aggressors having sex with people who clearly don't want to, and people who are too stupid or shy to just SAY NO when they don't want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 10:20 PM
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Why won't they get laid? Most people do, or 'incel' wouldn't be rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 10:56 AM
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It encouraged me go on online dates to keep looking for Mr Right, and find Mr Right Now's for the time being. I never really get approached in clubs etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 06:18 PM
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Not my experience at all. I have terrible horny episodes if I get sex deprived for more than a few weeks or months. Unbearable longing, wanki ng all the time, getting wet over nothing etc... I can also have periods where I'm not horny at all. (So I reckon women are less horny overall as it isnt consistent.) Seeing hot men has nothing to do with it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:49 PM
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Ah, you think I care. Why do you think that? I don't, but it does amuse me to pick holes in the worldview of toxic sexists for some reason. It reassures me to confirm that you red pill guys have little to zero logic or reasoning ability whatsoever. The progressing, improving, egalitarian world has little to fear. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 06:41 AM
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I successfully illustrated how pointless your generalisation was, and you got butthurt about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:14 PM
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I responded to "men age better than women" by generalising that it depends how they age- mainly whether they get fat or not. You don't know what generation I am but I assure you my logic is sound. Should I add a patronising insult to be more 'logical?'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:10 AM
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Ah, I want him to answer this!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:06 AM
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Great then we'd die out after one generation!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:58 AM
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Yes but as the subject is misogyny- woman hating- my point is that there are as many hate-able men. (Presuming that you hate women for the usual sorts of reasons people hate women- focusing on the stupid, selfish ones who do and say stupid, selfish things.) The upper end is irrelevant, my question was about the lower end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 06:56 AM
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To answer your question: because it has nothing to do with laughing at silly haters of women on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 10:20 AM
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Yes we both used generalisations. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 10:18 AM
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Don't you know some idiotic, childish men too? I find that for every stupid woman there is also a stupid man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:20 AM
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It really depends on how they look after themselves. A slim 40+ woman looks better than a fat 40+ man don't they?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:30 AM
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That was wierd- it Googled it for me. Obviously you're going to find people saying something if you Google it. Is it Google you don't understand or real life? I'm guessing the latter. Finding something on Google in no way illustrates that it is something common in real life. Get off the Internet and have some happy times!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:12 AM
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It's touted nowhere. I have only EVER heard of things like that spoken of by manginas on reddit. And to answer OP- Nope, it's the misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 09:42 PM
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No, she's an idiot. Fairly unlikely though, blow jobs are no fun even when you love the guy! Why would she do it? Sex, I get it, it feels soon good and it's hard to say stop if you're enjoying it. But that situation? As if!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 08:00 PM
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It was fairly reasonable until edit 2, when you went full slave owner!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 07:56 PM
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Bullshit. I was playing the acorn electron then master system a decade before I knew 'nerd culture' existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:57 PM
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What is referred to as anti-slut-defence?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:39 PM
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Not reading past the first paragraph because you said that women currently have economic, academic and political dominance. What a joke!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:15 PM
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No, lots of women don't want kids at all. Everyone else regards the consequences, although this is to varying degrees. Some won't have a child unless everything is in place, ie, marriage, nice house, etc. Others get to a point where everything isn't in place, but they would rather have a child in an imperfect situation rather than not have one at all. I must admit that I personally had a very strong drive to have children, and for a little while was obsessed with the fear that I wouldn't get to.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 06:09 PM
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Perhaps it's the incel thing that makes you obsess so much. For those of us who have regular sex, we don't obsess about it to the point of TRPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 05:58 PM
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How bloody ridiculous. If neither party gives any indication that they want to stop, then they are consenting. Carrying on, moving the body, making sounds of enjoyment...common sense! I was 'shy' about sex throughout my teenage years, (read: scared of being thought of as a slut by myself or others) and if a guy had stopped and said "Do you want to have sex?" I'm not sure I could have said yes. Take note, Terpers, this is the actual affect slut-shaming has- nice, non-slutty girls will feel pressu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 05:45 PM
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I'm not sure how you would demonstrate any of those things, much less find a way to quantify it. Also it sounds like in your system, left wing people shouldn't have the vote. Couldn't be much more destructive than those pissant republicans you have destroying your country, shutting down the government and what not! (Assuming you're American.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:18 PM
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Cool so no prejudice against women voting then- decide by some kind of intelligence test. Bit contradictory to what you first said but thanks, interesting! I've actually toyed with the idea that you should earn your right to vote- by attending some kind of community service including a citizenship class. I guess the downfall would be the cost, and the worry of the classes influencing voters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 10:03 PM
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Yes I would have got more attention if I was thinner. (I was and am a US 10.) So it's only skinny model-looking women who are spoiled, etc? I wouldn't disagree with that- thin, beautiful women can get sex more easily than the rest of us. So you agree that OP is wrong? You have done by asserting that actually, girls arent "thrown dicks from an early age," they need to be slim and beautiful fot that. Maybe from the tone of your comment you haven't realised that you inadvertently agreed with my poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:58 PM
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How do you choose the voters?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 06:19 PM
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Check. Went clubbing twice a week in those days, from 16 anyway. Guess what- being female isn't really that different from being male however much you wallow in self pity!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:00 PM
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What is the point in going online and telling people that they are lying about their own experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 12:58 PM
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Wow. Is it only women who shouldn't have equal rights or are there other groups who should lose them to 'benefit society as a whole?' Bring back slavery perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:13 PM
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"Thousands of dicks thrown at them from an early age." Age 13-18 gagging for sex, slim, blonde, didn't happen. Contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:43 PM
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Still contradicts OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:11 PM
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Nice one, please tell me more about the reality of my life Internet stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:11 PM
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That just isn't going to happen for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:10 PM
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Haha, are you sure because there are a ton of guys in this thread completely denying our reality!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:08 PM
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Thank you! Well put!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:35 PM
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I was desperate for sex from age 13 until I lost my V-card at 18, we really aren't 'thrown dicks' all the time. Me and my friends have long dry spells when single. That's life. Your premise is bitter, immature and plain wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:32 PM
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Just out of curiosity, does that mean that you hope women will lose the vote and equal rights in the future, and that society will be better off for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 10:18 PM
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If that's the case, his sperm doesn't even come into it, pardon the pun!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:25 PM
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I'm the same as you. It isn't important to me or any of my friends when choosing a man/ being attracted to someone. My boyf was actually unemployed when we got together, luckily it turns out I must be a good judge of character because he did get a decent job and got promoted quite quickly. Though it was annoying having no money in those early months, it wouldn't have stopped me dating a nice, kind, funny and attractive guy who was pursuing the career he was passionate about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 10:12 AM
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MRA's- crazy equivalent of radfems. I'd never heard of it, or the wierd reddit views on feminism being something other than women's rights, and got a big shock when I joined the MRA sub to actually support men's rights. None of that there! MGTOW- Butthurt virgins and guys who struggle to empathise with women, thinking AWALT. Others- Don't know much about the others, but I mostly feel sorry for incels and FA's and their inability to just do what needs to be done. (ie go out and forge a life.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 10:04 AM
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False, you need some context beyond numbers. There are various reasons why someone might have been promiscuous, true for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 10:23 PM
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Would you cease to see it as a 'windfall for single mothers' if they did account for how the money is spent? In that case I think you would see that it hardly covers anything in most cases and father's would be obliged to pay more... As in point one, if it was premised on the actual cost of childcare and supporting a child, most of which is usually paid for with the blood, sweat and tears of the primary carer, fathers would be paying a lot more. Do you people really think that single mothers kic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 10:20 PM
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Now that is chopping off your nose to spite your face, but with more human misery!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:54 PM
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Very good points
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:51 PM
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No it is a ridiculous, childish, selfish, crazy idea. Using condoms or the pull-out method is difficult and unsatisfying enough, people would find it even harder if all the responsibility for a pregnancy fell on the woman. Lots of men wouldnt wear condoms or pull out in time. There would be A LOT more unplanned pregnancies. And a lot more STD's. And as someone who's been there, the level of financial support one might recieve from the Dad is not high up on the list of things you consider when de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 08:48 PM
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After disposable sperm? Wtf you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 04:54 PM
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So your solution is peace out and leave your children destitute? Much alpha!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 04:32 PM
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Married red pill exists
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 04:31 PM
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So even if that were true for some women, does it mean that people would be better off in loveless, arranged marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 09:14 PM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 08:57 PM
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Possibly not, although given they took that insane step maybe their psychopathy would have got twisted around some other issue with the same results. Like wanting more money or more respect from other men or whatever. What has this got to do with red and blue pills?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 08:49 PM
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1- Of course not, why on earth would you ask that? 2- Dating websites, chatting to people, being a good guy who people would set their friends up with. 3- Being upset, ie a feeling, is OK. What is the agenda behind these very easy questions? Have you got the impression somewhere that Bloops are against you finding a girlfriend and being upset when it is hard to find one?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 02:27 PM
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That's where biological inequalities kick in- if there is no major reason for the mother not to get custody then the fact is she went through pregnancy and childbirth. Counts for something though I think in that situation of both working full time the parents should just share.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 04:18 PM
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Ah, the typical strawman-and-avoid response. Of course child support isn't a biological fact. What a ridiculous statement. Women being the ones who get pregnant is the biological fact, as you well know. I don't understand what you are suggesting with your second point. How is a child receiving support from its parents linked to sexism and injustice in the workplace in this context? And vice versa? Why should they be exclusive? I'll never understand how you people can argue against men paying som…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 07:55 PM
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How about as much equality as biologically possible? From your comments do you basically think that women should not be in the workplace? And following on from that, that we should be wholly financially supported by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 05:22 PM
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We can't change the biological facts to make things fairer. Believe me, if we could, we would. We can change the law to make things fairer. That's civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 05:17 PM
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There cannot be equality on this issue, because of the biological fact of women being the ones pregnant. You can't force people to have abortions. It is false to say men don't have reproductive rights, they have the right not to risk fucking. When you come in a vagina, even in a condom which has a risk of breaking, there is a tiny risk of her becoming pregnant with your child. If that child goes on to be born you are it's biological father. You just can't equate signing a piece of paper saying y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 03:32 PM
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Poe's law comment of the day! I don't know if you are a funny blue piller or woman-hating sociopath, but top marks!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 03:23 PM
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I think you're forgetting about couples with kids- the vast majority of time one works more to earn money and the other does more work in the home- you become a financial team. In this case you would need to split the assets from the time the couple were a team. Oh yeah I think that's the point of how it is now! But you aren't forgetting couples with kids- you say split down the middle? Again, how can that work when people are out earning money? As in a couple, the majority of the time it works …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 03:18 PM
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Interesting question! No you can't force an abortion on someone. Standard legal procedure for rape, and both parents have the opportunity to try to get custody if they want it. Man doesn't have to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 11:17 AM
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OK, this is why I feel so strongly against the red Pill, in relation to (skimming) what you wrote: The things you say about women are not true. I know they are not true because I am a woman and they are not true about me. I know lots of other women and they are not true about them. Also you can't equate learning to behave in an attractive way to putting on makeup. Makeup etc only equates to male physical grooming. For all the mental confidence/ 'game' and so on that young men have to learn, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 09:35 PM
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Don't often feel the urge to upvote red pillers but...agree with pretty much everything you said here! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 09:06 PM
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Important enough to spend money why? The vast majority will be the Dad, and of the few who won't be, who does it benefit? Not the child, not the government, sometimes not even the man. Heartbreak all round. Any man who suspected and wanted to know can choose to take the test. I get that a man has a right to know, and cuckolding is heartbraking, so I am not against testing when there is reason to, but you can't waste money doing it on everyone if they didn't even want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 08:24 AM
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The NHS couldn't waste taxpayers money on that. If someone is paranoid, or has good reason to suspect, then the cost of the test is on them. (Or Social Services or Jeremy Springer.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 03:41 PM
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Who pays? What a waste of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 02:29 PM
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I don't get AF/BB from that at all. It reminded me of how when I go without sex for a while I get really horny, but in an LTR I have to kind of encourage myself to want sex. And sometimes people get an infatuation and want to fuck someone. I think when people 'swallow the pill' they just see it in everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:05 PM
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Hmm, you don't think the 'ideas about gender relations' on RP demonise women??? Try examining how RP and MRA discuss women's equality, aka 'feminism.'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:12 AM
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It isn't finalised yet, so if I changed my mind and didn't want to adopt then I wouldn't have to go through with the adoption. I think that's why they have a long process? If it had all been finalised but I then changed my mind, then I would just have to suck it up and pay child support for the child I adopted. I can't imagine anyone finalising an adoption though then completely changing their mind. It isn't something you do lightly, or something that could happen unexpectedly like a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 08:28 PM
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I must admit I wasn't always as aware, I just thought men were lucky to be men. My friend, who used to run a men's charity, made me more aware. The main struggles they address are- -Lack of support/ charities/ services for men. You are just expected to work and never have any problems. -The problem of being a separated Dad, not receiving any benefits as not the primary carer. Problems like, access, payments, being expected to have a second bedroom for the child to stay in. Much too expensive for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 08:18 PM
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Good backpedal! I haven't seen that one before!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 07:38 AM
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You literally said that it takes them off the pedestal, like watching them poop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 06:17 PM
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Oh my mistake I thought mgtow included not having sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 06:16 PM
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If RP was sexual strategy then it would be 100% irrelevant to a man who decided to have nothing to do with women (mgtow) or an MRA as whatever MRA is about, it isn't sexual strategy. (I originally joined the MRA sub because I thought it was about men's rights! How wrong I was!)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 11:43 AM
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So RP is woman-hating not sexual strategy. From the horses mouth!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 09:46 AM
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Hurray we arrived at my point. 'The subject' is demonisation of women, not sexual strategy hence crossover with mgtow and MRA. I thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 09:43 AM
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If that's the case, why did you put women on a pedestal? Doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/15 09:41 AM
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We, no, we're not the ones who can't read a dictionary. Look up 'feminism' while you're at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:34 PM
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No one is, including retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:33 PM
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Calm down. This hypothetical guy isn't going to prison, a girl asked him for sex and as you say she walked to his house so it is unlikely she then passed out and got raped! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:30 PM
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Of course not. Unless, as everyone else writes, she passes out and then he rapes her. So its only rape...if it is rape. Getting drunk and hooking up is a thing, no-one is saying that any drunk sex is rape. There is obviously a line though which you cross when a person is completely and utterly out of it and has no idea what is going on. It is irritating when people twist that to ask if it is rape when people hook up drunk, I feel like they are wilfully misunderstanding in order to discredit actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:27 PM
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Mine too. And we love and nurture our kids! Haven't even had plastic surgery, fancy that!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:18 PM
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Actually a very sincere summation of Red Pill- a mindtrick to hate girls to interact with them easier. Unfortunate downside, disengaging from half the human race!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:14 PM
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I'd say its pretty cheapened anyway, (whatever that means?) as people can get divorced any time they want. I've got kids and I'm not married because there is no social stigma and I'd rather spend the money on the house and holidays and stuff. I agree with you that it is basically trivial in the modern world. No decline of civilisation caused by the so called 'cheapening' of marriage, and marriage continues to happen as opposed to becoming irrelevant as you said in your hilarious Poe's Law commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:11 PM
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Social skills definitely add to the list, I think RP would poison said man's social skills though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 09:03 PM
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Didn't the republicans prevent Obama from pushing through an easier rest-of-the-world style national healthcare system? (They did.) Free healthcare rules. (Yes you pay more tax, but only a little.) Its interesting to see those fabled Americans who oppose it, the rest of us scratch our heads at your existence!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 08:55 PM
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That's true, there are very few developed countries without free healthcare. And non-wealthy Americans protest against it! What sort of a dystopia are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 08:51 PM
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Definitely! I often think that RP/ BP is an expression of left wing and (far) right wing worldviews in the context of teenage-level sex and relationships. I imagine it would be rare to find a Terp who wasn't right wing minded. Like most non-Americans I have my fingers and toes crossed for Hillary. However, as happened here in the UK, Turkeys gonna vote for Christmas so I'm pessimistic, meaning the right wing parties always have a chance no matter how much they screw everyone over. I gave up on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 08:47 PM
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No effect. Aren't there already small pockets of religious wierdo's doing it already? I've seen them on documentaries. The vast majority ofvpeople like monogamy, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 08:37 PM
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I thought this was a good sarcastic joke taking the piss out of the anti-gay-marriage nutters but maybe you are being genuine? Poe's Law I think you are going to have to clarify!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 08:29 PM
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Where did I say that? I didn't say that I hated you or incels at all. You have kind of proven that your head is up your ass though. It's probably this paranoid, irrational victim mentality contributing to your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:59 AM
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Apologies!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:57 AM
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This is the biggest downside of internet porn. Nobody asked for anal when I was a teenager. I remember one guy getting the nickname "arse bandit," because he always tried to get girls to do it, we all laughed and no one would go anywhere near him. After coming out of a 12 year relationship, my God everybody wants to do it, as if it just a normal part of normal sex! I just feel bad for the young girls who will get pressured into it and have a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:44 PM
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In other news, civil rights campaigners in the 1960's didn't fight for vaguely autistic, right wing leaning white boys with their heads too far up their asses to understand girls to get hand jobs either. What other irrelevant group could you ask? I know LGBT ask LGBT for pity sex! Or free Tibet campaigners? Maybe the guys against animal testing will suck your dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:37 PM
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That was a particularly creative way to slander women and feminists, bravo. In case you are remotely serious, no I don't hate women, myself or femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:31 PM
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You think red pill is men adapting? It's men desperately clinging to the sexist days gone by when all the odds were heavily in your favour- nothing new or revolutionary and certainly not on the increase in society at large. Let's face it, those values used to be the norm, thankfully these days you have to secretively spout your hatred and power fantasies in a dark corner of the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:43 PM
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Househusbands are now OK, in the UK at least. While not the norm, it I know a few families like that and it isn't looked down upon. Legal political minefield, what a load of manosphere rubbish! get off your MRA high-horse! How over sensitive. The vast, vast majority of people want equality. Obviously! So red pillers don't deny inconsistencies and double standards??? Ha! See Madonna/ whore complex, I want a woman who'll fuck me whenever I want but she also needs to be a demure virgin with a low p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 02:26 PM
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Maternity leave and going part time to look after children make a big difference. Even if she has a better paying job, a mother will often earn less because of this factor. Or go into a less demanding job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:00 AM
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-The other ideas can be changed, and have been for the most part. I or anyone I know don't care about earning more than the man. The tall thing will always be there because men tend to be taller so by chance it will remain the norm. -I don't know why Red Pillers keep denying inconsistencies and double standards, that's a big part of why the Blue Pill exists!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:55 AM
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Well done for reiterating the quote and what I said in more detail then linking it to Hypergamy with no evidence or reasoning! Just because women tend to go for taller guys doesn't mean we branch swing at all. Even if the fantasy being 'hit on every day' was actually real. (It might be for a super hot college girl but certainly not for the majority of married women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 06:50 AM
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What has this got to do with Hypergamy? The quote could equally be about height- as a woman's height increases, her pool decreases, and vice versa for men. It's just about societies' inground ideas about what a 'normal' couple looks like, ie man is taller, man earns more. It's not to say its what the women actually want for the!selves, just the impression they get from the culture we grew up in. It in no way indicates that women are more likely to 'branch swing' or any of the nonsense you guys c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 09:35 PM
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I think people are often hypergamous and out to get the best partner they can. We aren't claiming that no women have the negative traits RP accuses them of, just that NAWALT and men do those things too. Male nurses are fairly rare so it stands to reason that by chance you haven't met one who happened to be married to a female doctor. I don't know any nurses of either gender who happen to be married to a doctor. I know a pair of married doctors and a female doctor married to a guy on a lower inco…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 09:24 PM
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Sexually arousing- funny, confident, intelligent, longish hair, taller than me, NOT muscular, lanky with big nose and small paunch is the jackpot. Attractive as mate- funny, confident, intelligent, passionate about job/ lifestyle, sexually arousing. (So all of the above too.) I'm a bloop female.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 08:16 AM
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Ah, you don't understand the word transaction in the context of OP! That's why you keep irrelevantly banging on about consent etc! Re-read the OP, I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 02:12 PM
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I'm not denying that consent occurs. I'm denying it's relevance to a discussion about whether sex and romance are simply transactions. This is about the fourth time I've said this and the fourth time you've detailed the completely obvious fact that people consent to things in social situations. Really lacking logic, aren't you? Yes, I consent to sex. No, it wasn't for trading/ transactional purposes. To bring it back to OP, romance is not about a man trading money and time for sex. Only a person…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/15 06:26 AM
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Why are you still writing about consent? It is irrelevant to the discussion of romance and sex being transactions or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 01:39 PM
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The fact I had consensual sex is completely irrelevant to our discussion. I don't know why you keep writing that as if it has some relevance. Let me spell it out- I have sex with people because I want their penis in me, not as a result of a transaction financial or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 06:55 AM
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Thinking about it, your argument that the sex I have with my boyfriend is a result of "breeding rights" is that I had consensual sex with him. Don't you see how cognitively challenged you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 05:25 PM
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"Granted affirmative access?" Are you for real? Do you really think women view sex in this transactional way? At least the discussion came full circle! You may view sex, romance and relationships in that way, but a lot of us don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:54 PM
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Tumblr feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 10:22 AM
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You've gone waaaay off topic now and far far into MRA victim mentality land. Totally and utterly irrelevant. But no, luckily both of my ex and my current partner both actively want to provide for their own children, as do I. Most ALL decent people, male and female, do provide for their children. It's nothing to do with 'breeding rights,' its just one of the consequences of breeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 06:34 AM
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I think we've moved on a bit from the time men bought the rights to breed with women. As a woman, I've 'bred' with men I loved and fancied, irrespective of what they have bought me or I them. I get the impression you don't think that, and I can't imagine there is much enjoyable romance for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 08:30 PM
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Yes, it was incorrect. Romance is not about cold hard transactions. We would explain to the Martians about feelings and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 07:33 PM
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We have very traditional gender roles in my relationship right now because I'm on maternity leave. I do most of the cooking, most of the cleaning, and most household chores- my partner simply works. Although redpill would like to think it has a monopoly on this kind of relationship it really doesn't. We each pay into a joint account which we pay bills from, he puts in more than I do because he earns more at the moment and will do for some time because I will be working part time. We take turns g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:37 PM
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That's about the most unromantic thing I've ever read!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:24 PM
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Yes. Next silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:36 PM
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Hahaha, wonder what you'd think about red pillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 10:35 PM
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Fair enough. Still hurts to run with your tits out whether Sioux women ran or not!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:46 PM
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Actually women in hunter gatherer societies tend to rarely leave the village or surrounding area. Little cause to run.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 01:28 PM
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Sorry for being inflammatory, you're right about that. I just followed a link to an Egyptian RPer who wants casual sex but doesn't like women who have sex. The lack of logic or self-awareness throughout the thread is just jaw-dropping, reading RP is fun but sometimes just makes you fear for how stupid people can be. My comments don't prove your point but I admit I can't be arsed evidencing my own POV either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:28 PM
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No, because I'm not part of a hate-cult I don't see evidence for it everywhere I look.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:01 PM
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I see loads of logical refutations. It's probably the case that RPers don't acknowledge them because they already abandoned all logic looooooong ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 06:46 PM
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Yes, I agree they are free to have that preference. If they have it but they sleep around themselves though, then their preference is hypocritical. It's like an avid meat eater only dating vegetarians, and insisting that women shouldn't eat meat if they want to date him in the future. Fine, his choice, but hypocritical, daft and unfair to women who have his same appetite for meat. I'm not saying, to use your terms, that he should only date meat eaters, that meat eaters are the "correct," prefere…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/15 08:47 AM
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It says something, but not as much as a conversation would. The shades of difference you describe are much more telling than just a number- as you say, dating is different to hooking up with a random but a number is just a number. I think we reached an agreement there high five! Not sure about your last sentence, who gets into relationships because they feel they owe it? You do it because you like the person. Also, sex is not 'giving it up,' again, you do it because you like the person and want …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 03:35 PM
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Hmm, I think I illustrated that it doesn't neccessarily tell you how a person views sex. 2 and 12 seem like very different numbers but could be the exact same person with the same views on sex, depending on how long they were between relationships and how good looking they are. Sometimes you meet your next boyfriend after a few weeks, sometimes a few years and that is down to random chance. Even a person who hated casual sex would have a few hook ups during those years, if they were good looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 09:38 PM
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Well fair enough that sounds more reasonable than the OP. I feel like I've always gleaned that sort of information without a number, though. If you think about it, number is quite misleading compared to getting to know the person. For example, the number could be lower or higher depending on circumstances. You could be promiscuous in personality, but spent 10 years in a relationship so have a lower number. Or been an obese teen, or had some other unappealing factor, and not have got laid despite…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 08:48 PM
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I agree, actually. How the fuck do we still do business with Saudi Arabia for example? Places with such blatant enslavement of women should be priority #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 06:20 AM
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Goodness me, what an insane sexist rant! Shouldn't we try to be serious on a debate sub? Everything you wrote is ridiculous and unreasonable. You think women don't have to pay for mistakes or overcome adversity? That we all walk into great jobs without trying? Really??? Come off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 08:52 PM
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The fuss is about being hypocritical. Red pillers, in general, want to sleep with lots of women. They also, generally, expect that when they feel like it, they will marry their 'unicorn.' This is all fine, their choice. The offensive, hypocritical problem is that they judge the women who do the exact same thing. Women who have slept around, even a little, are judged as 'sluts' somehow ruined and unfit for LTR's. This is what is laughable to anyone with a sense of equality. There also seems to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 08:38 PM
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Who the fuck are these people asking number counts? I am 33 and it has never happened. Obviously I've been going out with the right people. It's so childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 08:27 PM
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It harkens back to a time when women were clearly and obviously the victims of discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 06:31 PM
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Fair enough. You should probably assume the first though unless given reason to think otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 06:29 PM
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Sounds pretty hollow, insecure and desperate to me. And everyone who knows him is going to think that guy is a total douche. /r/ Each to his own, but give me a deep and cosy relationship any day with no lying or bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:26 PM
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I get that, but in response to OP, I'm explaining that maybe Bloopers aren't solely thinking of how to fuck more women when they recommend those personality traits. It may be hard to imagine but once you grow up a bit, casual sex is less fulfilling and it is more about getting fun and well-matched women to fuck and enjoy life with. Or men. Or maybe other goals entirely. Or maybe you do just want to keep having casual sex, which is fine, but just have self respect and be a moral person too, in wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:21 PM
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Wtf who upvoted this irrelevant garbage?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:06 PM
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Maybe our ultimate goal in life is to be happy and fulfilled, not JUST getting people to fuck us?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 05:05 PM
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What, meaning Japan is doomed? They just need to relax immigration controls and the ageing population problem will alleviate as in Europe/ US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:35 PM
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As opposed to grovelling pansies, yes. What kind of horrible place do you live that most people aren't nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:29 PM
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Define 'save a ho' behaviours. Saving prostitutes? No not very common and normalised. It seems like a very Red-Pill specific obnoxious term. If you ate referring to normal women as ho's it might be time to reevaluate your life and grow up. No idea what you mean by captain save a ho behaviours. I think there are some men and women who let their relationship take over their lives, and I agree that it is bad. Normal, healthy boundaries...Depends on the couple. I guess people should always keep thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 12:27 PM
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No, that isn't my experience. Most people I know are just nice, fun individuals. Genuinely nice, not 'Niceguy TM.' We are all quite hard-drinking alternative types though so less likelihood of pansies. A million miles from red pill too. All the men I know are respectful of and friends with women, I don't really know and misogynistic red pill types, but no boot licking grovelling pansies either. Just people. I work for social services and a few of the service users have sexist tendencies actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 03:55 AM
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You need to ask? Isn't it obvious? RP is nothing new- these attitudes used to be the norm. Thankfully society moved on and became fairer, RP is kind of a traditionalist reaction. A few examples: -Guys can try to get laid as much as possible, if women 'give in' they are shamed, sluts, etc even by the guy they had sex with. This is the thing I hate the most about RP. -Woman's place being n the home, inferior, needing leadership etc. -The idea that women are more privelidged and the hatred of femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:25 AM
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Read a dictionary, or google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 06:15 AM
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So feminism harmful, equal rights not. That's completely contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:57 PM
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It is hard to copy paste on my tablet and I can't see the thread while typing. Is the same though- women...vote...equal rights...harmful?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 10:55 PM
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Rephrased it better- RP is the far right of sexual politics. Even if you aren't personally right wing in other areas, the RP doctrine when it comes to women and sex is as far right as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:43 PM
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I really think TRP is the far right wing of sexual politics. Blue Piller's are on average standard left wing mindset. Arguing with a red piller is like arguing with a born again Christian, or a republican. I remember seeing on the daily show, some douche called Hannity et al arguing that racism is over in America. Instantly reminded me of the Terps claiming that there is no no need for feminism any more and even that women are vastly more privelidged. Its just that total lack of logic and empath…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 08:40 PM
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I really think TRP is nothing more than a sexual expression of being really far right, right wing and conservative. Edit: this was meant to reply to OP oops!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:27 PM
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I'm curious about that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:22 PM
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Even if it isn't- that in no way answers my question. Do you think society would be better off if women didn't have the vote and equal rights? Society including women? Without getting into the tired old discussion of the definition of feminism, do you think it is harmful for women to have equal rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:20 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:17 PM
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Just curious- do you think women having the vote and equal rights is 'harmful' to society? Even if you include women as a part of society?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 09:40 AM
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Er, think you're confused... We are discussing your original post, how it reads like satire because it is so exaggerated and nobody wants those things, and that led on to discussing why feminism is still needed. The possibility that it is easier for young women to get casual sex is utterly irrelevant. Many grown-ups of both genders couldn't give two hoots about whether they can get casual sex. It certainly isn't a 'social justice' issue though you can thank feminism for the fact that casual sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:37 PM
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Yes its a thing. So are pop tarts. It's irrellevant to a discussion about feminism and equality. Also irrelevant to the vast majority of women who are not looking for casual sex, like myself with a partner and two kids. Are you serious? Even if the right wing old codgers were full blown feminists, it isn't the same as actual representation. And you said lip-service anyway, which means they are just shallowly...paying lip service. Look up the definition of lip service. The result is and incredibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:05 AM
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Was kinda being sarcastic that, when faced with unrefutable points, you would probably swerve and derail by bringing up the irrelevant topic of casual sex being more easily attainable for women. Well done! Maybe when you either grow up or get laid a few times you will realise that there is more to life and justice than casual sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 08:48 PM
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You can make the argument, but it's laughable to any rational person. Look at the proportion of female politicians. Yes, hopefully you'll get Hillary but still mostly men. Your archaic non-maternity leave system screws women over simply for reproducing, there is no male equivalent. Yes yes blah blah custody unfairness, but the fact is men still get to work, and keep most of their disposable income. Single moms are generally broke until the kids grow up with 100% of their income spoken for but MR…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 07:48 AM
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Why would they? The clue is in the name. Feminism tries to achieve equality focussing mostly on female issues. (But not female interests over male ones as the manosphere likes to whinge.) As a racism charity would focus on racial issues. I appreciate that there are male-specific issues but looking back through history up to the present day I think spending equal time on 'male issues' would be a bit skewed as men have traditionally had it a lot better. They still do, no matter how much you get in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 06:17 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 07:14 AM
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It's red pill 101 aka bullshit -Universities do often have female majorities but not because feminists/ sjw's have strived for it/ wanted it. -I think we all know the chaos that unlimited immigration would cause. My personal opinion on that is that we need to release our economic stranglehold on the 3rd world so that people don't need to emigrate as much. Oh I'm not going to quote the whole thing but its just all exaggerated, not equalty-focused and with the weird MRA idea that everyone hates wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 06:30 AM
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You wrote feminists/ SJW's. I think you would struggle to find even the most histrionic sjw idiot on tumblr in action who wanted the dystopia you described. As for feminists, it's a contradiction in terms as what you described was far from equality. Universities 80% female indeed, behave! You have basically vastly exaggerated what you think some people want, to the point of ridicule, then asked why they would want that. Some of the funniest posts on BP are exaggerated comedy RP viewpoints, your …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 08:58 PM
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You can post this straight to r/thebluepill as satire, will get more upvotes!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 07:40 PM
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Shamed for slut shaming. The mind boggles!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 07:26 PM
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K...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 08:55 AM
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So any dependants are pimps? Get a dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 07:27 AM
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Wow, amazing to see Terps project their worldview onto any irrelevant situation!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 07:25 AM
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No, I'm really not idealistic. I just think sometimes you meet people you click with, have a laugh with, and over time you respect them and know them and want to have them around. Not unrealistic or idealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 06:43 AM
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TIL the existence of Love is idealistic. I disagree, Love exists for lots of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 08:05 PM
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You think people marrying people they love is idealism? It's the norm. I'm not saying most marriages are happy, great, or perfect, or without pretence, but neither are they anything like as hopeless as the one described by OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 04:11 PM
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I don't disagree with anything you wrote, but I do think marriages like that are very rare. Only a sociopath would marry like that in Western society. Yes older women people generally have more sensible priorities than younger women people, but everyone I know would only marry someone they are genuinely attracted to and in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:35 PM
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You got them from somewhere...so blame equal rights, the catch-all boogeyman! And what about in my case? My teenaged silenced shame during sexytime... If it wasn't for feminism I'd probably still be ashamed and repressed for having a sex drive at 32 and people would be having far less casual sex. Those women having it would be all shamed and broken and fucked up, not that Red Pillers care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:07 AM
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The hatred for and blaming all problems on women on the red pill is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 07:03 AM
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HELL no! I don't take any hate group seriously and mostly browse red pill for a laugh. They are still people with their (silly) opinions though, so I try to be serious on purple pill because, I don't know, its interesting to see how people hamster their prejudice. I find it reassuring how illogical and angry the Red Piller's are, I'm pretty sure most of them will realise how daft they are being sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:48 PM
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It isn't. Being nice to your partner is a vital cornerstone of a healthy, modern relationship. That glamour article is nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:29 PM
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Ah, reply was meant to be to OP. I've read that list, it goes beyond spoiling your guy and into bunny boiler territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:28 PM
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...and it wasn't feminism that made you make such huge mistakes in the first place. I've got to say, the whole expanding of the definition of rape online thing really bugs me. People get drunk and fuck, it isn't remotely rape. Some douchebags try to coerce, that isn't rape either. In fact I definitely expected the guy to push when I was young, or I would assume he didn't want to and it wouldn't have happened. What you described wasn't even coercion though. Going down on people in the hopes they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:59 PM
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I got up to the blowjob bit, and thought, wow this person didn't realise that you should talk to your partner about what you like. Are they autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:28 PM
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It isn't. Being nice to your partner is a vital cornerstone of a healthy, modern relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:24 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. Don't know if you are an actual red piller but I strongly advise that if you are incel you leave the toxic monosphere well alone- it isn't going to help you and in my opinion it will hold you back. Yes, looks are a dealbreaker for me and most people, and people will put up with a lot of shit to not be lonely. I wouldn't suffer a good looking douche for very long but if I'm honest I'd probably shag one a few times if I was single and horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:19 PM
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Either. (I'm well aware that Red Pill advises single Mums for pump and dump.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:13 PM
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Actually my experience as a single mother is that very few losers would rule us out for having a kid, and they're the kind of losers you want to avoid anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 03:33 PM
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Well, yes makeup etc is OK. So is being nice to people. Abuse is not OK 'even if' he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:50 AM
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That's a very subjective definition of the NiceguyTM trope and not at all universal. I see it as more of a guy who fakes being nice to try and get female attention but just winds up a despised sycophant. Am loathe to dredge up the whole definition of feminism thing but painting innocent people as villains because of their gender is definitely a juxtaposition. Those people who do that are 'gits,' and by definition not believers in equal rights. Having said that, it depends how you express said sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 05:36 PM
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Cool!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 05:28 PM
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Yes I have heard of nice guysTM. Where on earth did that come from? I'm refuting the garbled "Wah feminism means guys get villianised" garbage drivel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:42 PM
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No, because humans are more complex than those few narrow categories. I had previously settled down with a fun, charismatic, good looking and high earning man that I loved. Maybe you would put him in that 'AB' category. Then around 40, due to lots of circumstances, he started treating me like shit and everyone else, losing me and his job. Definitely left the 'AB' category. Now I'm with my SO who is very different. Good looking, I love his morality, despair at how slobby he can be...but he's a be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:34 PM
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I haven't seen single men cast as villains in real life, no more than women. They seem to get treated the same as women ime, "You'll meet someone eventually." It's possible that men who don't get that treatment and are able to stomach TRP were probably sexist all along and genuinely didn't get told "you're a good guy, you'll meet someone," for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:20 PM
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Dark sense of humour, funny, chilled, big nose, taller than me. Preferably lanky with a small beer belly/ Dad bod type abdomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:03 PM
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Well that bit you quoted is just wacky made up drivel. Resources are not exclusively moved from men to women. Men arent vilified. Etc. I was referring to the unsustainable healthcare, social security, crumbling economies, stagnant wages, etc. These things are worse in the US than other developed nations because of your brand of corrupt ultra-right wing money-in-politics, cutthroat capitalism, and basically the 1% being given extra leeway to just fuck everyone over and suck out all the wealth. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 09:58 PM
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My SO was jobless when we met as he had just moved to my town. I figured I was a good enough judge of character to trust that he was intelligent and would be getting one soon. It took a few months, I did a lot of the paying, now he has a decent job in a junior position and is expecting a promotion soon. I wouldn't want to date someone who never worked as we just wouldn't have compatible personalities, although if he earned less than me I wouldn't mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:18 PM
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That article is insane! All those things listed in the opening paragraphs, blatantly due to right wing capitalist governments, they are trying to pin on gender relations? Atlas, you really can't link bollocks like that and hope to be taken seriously!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:07 PM
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"Even women who are aware of ageing." Severe learning difficulties aside, adults are ALL aware of ageing. Fair enough, we don't know how it feels to be older until we are older. Many have felt invisible, for example if we spent time fat, or depressed or whatever. Ageing is inevitable however, the Red Pill paints the "wall" as if its only women and somehow due to bad choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:16 PM
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I answered it, just not the answer you are fishing for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 09:30 AM
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Depends if it is a compliment or harassment ( which is what we were talking about) and if its a stranger or someone you know. Definitely OK to ignore catcalling, catcalling is very unkind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:14 PM
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I think you've lost sight if the spirit of the original post, and ways girls seem to get harassed over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:57 AM
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Not normal at all. I'm British and don't have to put up with any of that bullshit. Also it was expecting something for the drink that was the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:22 AM
1

I've heard "wall" as being late 20's. And I've got children, does that mean the wall doesn't apply to me? If not, see previous comment, I refute that this garbage applies to the majority of women, only a small, shallow minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:20 AM
2

BPers deny that it is "usually devastating," that women have no idea they are going to age and all the other garbage they write about "the wall."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:17 AM
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This is the crux of the issue. Nobody is denying that people experience a decrease in sexual desire as they age. But that is not how the wall is described, even in the post by OP. What I and other women who are over 30 deny is that ageing is this catastrophic disaster which significantly affects their lives, and that their outcomes are damaged if they aren't, oh whatever married by 29. Only idiots would expect to be beautiful forever. Nobody is unaware of ageing. Women interested in having kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:11 AM
2

Whaaaaaat? Why on earth would you need to be those things to notnwant to be harassed???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:00 AM
0

Have we moved on from Chad? Who's Studly? He sounds hawt yeah he can harass me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 03:59 AM
1

Yeah, I reckon so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 03:54 AM
1

Ah, so only women can't go to a man's house or he is allowed to rape them. Have I got that right? Sounds like you think we'd be better off in burkha's never going out. We are just people like you, you know. The thought of teaching young women that they shouldn't go to people's houses because men just can't be expected to not rape them is the psycho babble of a madman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 03:52 AM
-4

I'm a 32 year old woman. Headshot? Also she hasn't elaborated on her experience. Also the post is contradictory- first she says it is felt by women who enjoy spontaneous attraction, then says it is near- universal. I don't refute the prior, I do refute the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:50 PM
-1

Why? Doesn't refute my experience nor speak to hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:42 PM
-3

Alright, did you experience the wall then? Did your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 06:41 PM
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Meh, quoting involves putting my baby down and sitting at the computer. To paraphrase your comments: "Women should leave a relationship if they are unhappy. If they dont, any abuse is their own fault." "Married women should not leave their relationship, even if they are unhappy or being abused." "Ps I'll just randomly interject that if someone goes to your house you can rape them and it isnt rape."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:46 PM
-1

So, because it isnt any of those things, it is ludicrous to deny that it is those things? Hmm I think somebody has already made his mind up despite what people say! I know loads of so-called post wall women, and can assure you none of them experienced what you say. Isnt red pill meant to be logic and evidence based? Yet you deny the experience of everybody whose experience is relevant in favour of some hot girl rejected me revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 05:41 PM
7

What does that even mean though if we still attract people, have sex, relationships and enjoy life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 04:08 PM
3

I would say a lot of us were never jaw droppingly attractive to begin with, our identity doesn't revolve around getting attention because of our looks, so when we age it doesn't really affect us. Another significant, overlapping portion are in LTR's so it doesn't affect us either. Another cohort meet men of a similar age so we aren't affected. Many remain very attractive, which I would say leaves only a tiny shallow minority who received loads of attention for their specific brand of youthful 'h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 04:05 PM
1

My thoughts too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 03:52 PM
1

You literally quoted where you contradicted yourself. Yes the debate is about women consenting to TRP. You said they must enjoy it, I said not necessarily, they are probably often just putting up with it, ie for the sake of a marriage. Remember options a) and b) ? That's where you contradicted yourself. You even did it in greater detail in your last post. Where oh where in the hell did you get date rape from to shoehorn it into this conversation? So random and unrelated! We were talking about re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 09:52 AM
1

Wow first time you responded to a point! Do you see how you have condradicted yourself? So a man 'takes the pill,' turns into a douchebag, and his wife is unhappy. Does she a) Put up with it. (You said this denies her agency, if she is feeling anything less than enjoyment she should leave or any abuse is all her fault.) b) Divorce. (You and red pill in general say that she should not do this.) See how the woman in question can do no right according to your argument? This above is the main point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 08:53 AM
1

Lonny Zone, I need to remember that name. You are a hilarious misogynist autistic change-track-when-point-proven-ridiculous looooow cognitive ability right wing hampster extraordinnaire! Ace! Seriously though, you think women should leave their husbands as soon as things are not enjoyable? Bet you also hate divorced women and single mums at the same time! This is how the madonna/whore complex gets perpetuated, by men for whom women are literally damned if they do and damned if they dont!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:55 AM
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Lol, blame the victim for being abused! This is why I come here, that was an absolute gem! Better than I even hoped for! Don't Red Pillers hate women who initiate divorce though? And single mums? Yet here you are saying they should just leave as soon as things are less than enjoyable? What would married rep pill say!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 07:12 AM
1

Women might sometimes put up with red pill tactics rather than enjoy them. This doesn't mean they don't have agency. Yes sometimes manipulation isn't so bad as in with bribing children for their own good. Not related to point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 09:57 PM
1

Not inherently, but that is pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. Nice swerve, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 05:10 PM
1

Didnt say she couldnt make descisions. Your computing is way off. I commented on the reasons for her descision, saying that it isnt so simple as you say. You said that all women in RP relationships must make the descision to stay in the relationship because they must all enjoy it, I posited that at least some of them probably dont enjoy being disrespected and manipulated, they just DECIDE to put up with it because they were lonely or are maybe vulnerable. Or is that too complex for your computin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 10:15 PM
1

Wow, was that actually meant to be a response to my comment? Totally unrelated! I never said that only women matter or any of that stuff. What are you on about? I didn't even hint at misandry or misogyny. Yes, I agree that taking the pill will nuke a marriage? You sound confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 09:44 PM
1

Rubbish. Having a bit more understanding isn't coddling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 09:38 PM
1

More likely she doesn't enjoy it, but is lonely and/or vulnerable so puts up with it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 09:05 PM
-1

I can't imagine that childish shit like locking your wife out, withdrawing affection and having tantrums is going to help a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 08:57 PM
1

Nothing you wrote relates to my comment at all, did you make a mistake?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 08:53 PM
1

Or they might have proceedings against them already?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 08:50 PM
1

Come on pakleader, what is your response to this very good point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 02:07 PM
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One problem would be when an already married man 'takes the pill.' It isn't what she signed up for and she's probably in for a hard time. Like that woman who got locked out of her own bedroom last week for refusing sex when they had visitors over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 09:23 PM
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Things altered- I had no idea that there were white western guys who felt hard done to as guys, never mind the idea that women were more privelidged than them. Though I don't agree that women have it easier overall, I can see that there are some areas where we have it easier, like being able to show emotions more, more readily able support etc. Though pulling isn't the walk in the park RPers think it is for women, perhaps overall we are less likely to die as kissless virgins. They are hopeless a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:00 PM
-1

There was a definite difference between what she said and what you said, beyond semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:18 PM
-1

Why are you publishing that conversation? It makes you seem retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:13 PM
1

I'm sure those things are common, but not in all relationships. I'm willing to bet even less so in blue pillers relationships as it takes a certain sense of humour, honesty and self-awareness. Middle paragraph doesn't make loads of sense- if someone looked bad and were bad in bed, you wouldn't usually LTR them to begin with. Yes it happens, and yes things go stale after a while, but certainly not always and not so much for those with self-awareness, honesty etc. Tldr what you are saying may be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:11 AM
1

I repeat the earlier question, what makes you think you know people better than their SO's, what makes you think you know they are lying? Perhaps its because so many Red Pill tenets are built on lying, or youre all quite insecure you have been lying all your lives? I would never generalise about all relationships on blue pill, but the 'blue pill' (ie healthy) relationships I have had were healthy because we didnt lie to each other for no reason. I think honesty in relationships is just a difficu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 06:22 AM
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He's often too tired for sex. This is guy code for "I'd rather jerk off while I click through 20 porn clips of girls getting nailed in all 3 holes than have sex with you." We'd all rather jerk it to porn sometimes. However working full time, a long commute and a 12 week old baby will also make a person legitimately too tired to get all sweaty and thrust for 10 minutes as opposed to some netflix. But noooo, you know my boyfriend better than I do, right? I love how TRP is always bemoaning that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:42 AM
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What on earth makes you think you know better about strangers than their own SO's?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:16 PM
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I was thinking this too. We have both relaxed since having kids, who cares? My SO puts sweatpants on etc when he comes home, I genuinely don't mind. He's often too tired for sex. Sometimes I am. He likes me without makeup as much as with. They're not 'blue pill lies,' they are just a reflection of growing up and moving into a different phase of life with different priorities, in our case at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:13 PM
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Just to clarify, that isn't necessarily the timeless traditional role. Only since capitalism and the nuclear family. Going back before the industrial revolution, men and women both contributed to family income with complimentary jobs on the farmstead, plus activities such as spinning etc. Go back further and women would have done a lot of the gathering to compliment the men's hunting. It is only in relatively recent history that women became so downtrodden as capitalism and wage slavery, with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 10:04 AM
2

I'm pretty sure there are those who see work as means to an end, and those who get their fulfillment from careers, across both genders. And happiness as well, even if there are trends amongst different sections of society. We're always hearing about those miserable young male incels, aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:51 AM
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Yep, being attractive makes a huge difference. I even feel a significant difference in how everybody treats me when my weight yoyo's down half a stone. It possibly makes more difference for females because an unattractive man gets more acceptance (promotions, etc,) than an unattractive woman...if he has confidence and charisma. Oh its so complicated and dependant on the situation I don't think you can call it on genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 07:20 AM
2

Definitely an element of being on the spectrum- low empathy and some level of social failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:47 PM
0

Great analogy. Just because I think Westboro Baptist Church are nutters, doesn't mean I need to invent a whole other church.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 03:29 PM
2

32 4 relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 02:02 PM
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The mistake RPers make is thinking BP is a diametric opposite of RP. It's not. To generalise, equality is taken as a granted, so no we don't spend the whole time making sure everything is equal. Men are not remotely submissive because they are blue pill, neither are women. Who wants to make all of the decisions? Of course nobody does, let's use common sense. The stereotype of the sexless, pussy whipped blue pill relationship is ridiculous. To speak of my relationships, its usually chilled out, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 11:10 AM
0

Agreed. Sexism is as old as the hills!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:59 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:58 PM
3

Yep, people should of course be offered help first but ultimately yes, the right to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:52 PM
0

Aww, you're so confused!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:47 PM
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I'm not going away, I enjoy these 'debates.' You sound a bit upset though, so maybe you should consider 'going away' yourself? And maybe you should brush up on your punctuation and grammar before you accuse people of being dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 05:45 PM
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Wow, I make a good point which you can't refute so you call me an idiot and make a sexist remark! So alpha, much tingles. I think you sent the wring link- the one you sent had examples of people encountering twerps? Proves nothing, kind of demonstrates that the red pill can derail people's lives. Your reasoning is a bit haywire to say the least. Again, to use your analogy of r/coontown to comment on black people- that might stand up if I read the red pill and used it as a source on all men. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 02:53 PM
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Ha ha. TBP reads TRP and comments on it. How are we Ill informed? To directly use your example, it is like arguing r/coontown is a good source on r/coontown. I'm literally saying that r/theredpill is a good source on r/theredpill. Hamster your way out of that one!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 07:11 AM
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...They were people who said they read the red pill. The "narrative we are fed" at the blue pill IS the red pill. The sub exists to take the piss out of the red pill. (And occasionally to bounce normality around after reading particularly dark red pill posts.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:43 PM
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I'm talking about people who specifically encountered red pill actually. And yes, ,"red piller" has taken on a general term for bitter mysogynistic Elliot Rogeresque douchebag, cos that's how it manifests itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 08:58 AM
1

Oh god the title! It must be a spoof! Someone didn't really write "feminism is man hate" in seriousness? What colour code is that? Code Taupe "This has to be a joke. Nobody is this retarded!" That article is a beautiful expression of Poe's law!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:53 PM
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Thanks that was hilarious! I should subscribe to MRA again, but ironically this time. (When I first subscribed I thought it was about men's rights! Lol) I got the sense from the article that the code blue refers to discussions about men's rights, whereas the men in my example were not remotely discussing these things but simply acting like a petulant man child in their everyday life. Thanks for the link though. Those poor western male victims of injustice!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:43 PM
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I don't understand what you mean then. I took code blue to mean blue pill? Just curious what you meant and how it is linked to RP petulant man-babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 05:35 PM
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Ah, that's the agenda. Very silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 01:22 PM
1

Fair enough. Where do you read about the SJWs?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:58 PM
1

Wow first time I saw a red piller admit that. Where did you read about the SJW's? I've never encountered them at all. It might be as much fun as reading red pill!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:46 PM
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I can't see that bit of the thread but I think I asserted that people waste a bit of their lives with red pill bitterness and you felt that SJW's were somehow relevant? We are talking about accounts on subreddits of lives being ruined. I haven't even encountered a SJW on reddit never mind the partner of one writing about how their spouse suddenly turned into a manipulative overgrown baby or otherwise ruined their life. Geddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:16 PM
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I agree they are already bitter etc. Red pill makes them more so though IMO. It definitely preaches women-hate by claiming we are all shallow and spoilt as you said. I can't speak for all red pillers, but it certainly is a case of 'falling victim' in the cases I've seen where men's development is delayed. Saying that people who 'took the pill' but didn't turn into the proud alphas you wish they would are a 'code blue' is a bit silly. If they are posting on the red pill, saying they are red pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 12:12 PM
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Disagree. In the posts I've read, the young guys, who may already be somewhat bitter and depressed, discover red pill and start blaming women for all the worlds ills. Not surprising when, as you say, RP feeds them this bullshit "women's nature." If you brainwash vulnerable young men into thinking women are shallow, spoilt, and all the rest of it by nature then they are a lot more likely to hate women. You can't pretend there aren't woman haters among red pillers can you! As for the other example…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:35 AM
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Note the "or." And I reiterate, I have literally never seen that happen in real life. Or even met a SJW.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:27 AM
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I've literally never seen that. Or seen examples of feminists in real life who aren't just about equality plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:19 AM
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The main examples I'm thinking of are when a woman posts about how her husband has suddenly started trying to play mind games with her and treat her like a naughty child. Or when friends and siblings watch their young brothers or friends turn all bitter and woman-hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:18 AM
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It's fun laughing at women-haters but of course sometimes the material on TRP is so dark, like when real relationships and marriages get destroyed, that TBP becomes more of a place to vent and reassure ourselves. I guess that's part of having a dark enough sense of humour to enjoy reading TRP- sometimes it strikes you that these are real people throwing their lives away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 08:40 PM
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I think you were trying too hard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 09:53 PM
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I agree but in a different way. Whenever I see a documentary or research about prejudice, hate groups, right wing conservative groups, cults, etc everything they say reminds me of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 06:46 PM
1

Totally fair. No reasonable person could possibly disagree...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 09:34 AM
1

Thank you for admitting you were wrong about the study! Very refreshing. Yes I know about ONS's. Not guaranteed sex on tap though is it? The vast majority of the time you don't happen to pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 09:03 PM
1

You mention within there that you have female friends who you are glad to have in your life? Bit contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:13 PM
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It was sarcasm, Terpers often quote the daily mail. I was thinking about this conversation yesterday, actually. It was the childish way you held this up as proof that its easy for women to get sex because of that study. Having looked at the study, even if it is valid, (I've read about an identical one with VERY different findings) and even if you can take the reactions of college students to represent the whole of society, I think your main error is in what you claim it proves. Yes, it 'shows' t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 12:11 PM
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Haha lol I had a feeling you would say that. Go find me a daily mail article and I will admit defeat! Then walk out on to the street for my instant female privilege sex! So you are a sexually frustrated kid, don't worry, you'll have a girlfriend one day! (If you leave the sexism behind.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/15 06:42 AM
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You really think one of these ridiculous studies that Terpers like to quote proves anything? Would YOU fuck even 50% of women if they propositioned you on the street? I really hope for your sake that you are 12 and still have the potential to grow up!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 08:36 PM
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Bollocks. Maybe if you are incredibly hot, but if I walked up to blokes I know for a fact the 'success rate' would be incredibly low. Also most people in their right mind, male or female, would not be interested in sex with strangers off the street. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 07:18 PM
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Not on the basis of racism or sexism though! On actual relevant factors!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 09:45 AM
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Study didn't load. When I was single, I used to do dating sites, spend a few days or weeks building rapport with guys then meet them for a date. Sometimes I sent the first message, sometimes them. Usually, as you would expect, we didn't click and I didn't fancy them at all so no sex. If we got on well we'd usually have sex around the third date, so this process allowed me to get sex after about a month or two of effort, not by being passive. Pretty much a mirror image of how the normal guys I da…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 09:44 AM
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I'm debating it. You can't get it whenever just by being female. That's ridiculous. Maybe if you are in the hottest 1% it's more likely to find someone on any given occasion, but that stands for both genders. RP seems to be particularly overrun with sexually frustrated bitter young men who think women have magical access to instant sex these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 09:01 PM
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The irony! Hilarious! I never claimed to be a victim, you are claiming it though. I never claimed to know your situation, you claim to know mine though. You claim I'm out of touch, but you seem to think western males are horribly oppressed. This is why I come here! I really hope you come out of this ridiculous phase soon though x
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:15 PM
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Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:10 PM
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...But my point is that for some people it causes them to be a sexually frustrated female? Which is the exact equivalent of a sexually frustrated male. But no, you've already decided that girls have it sooooo easy haven't you, poor oppressed western male!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:09 PM
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Its as if its zero cocks or 50. My example of very real frustration was not a '50 cock slut' but a virgin who is desperately horny but according to RP and Christian tradition should not have sex or she'll be somehow 'ruined.'. The issue with slut shaming is it doesn't just shame female 'sluts' (never male ones) but it shames ANY woman who has sex, even virgins as in my example and your response to it. Thank you for welcoming me to what its like being a man and thereby admitting that girls face e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 04:06 PM
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Aww it must be horrible in your wibbly wobbly world. People try to find love, it's hard for everyone. Try not to be such a bitter victim and you might have more luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 04:02 PM
1

You know you're 'flailing' when your only retort is no nit-pick about syntax. Very common with Terpers, and reassuring to reasonable people!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 01:17 PM
1

Source? Oh no that's right you're just assuming you know what goes on in all women's minds with no basis whatsoever. Maybe you're only seeing the top 1% of hot girls, its common amongst young males, and encouraged by the media. What a ridiculous proposition, that it's only straight males! Yeah, you're the most disadvantaged in society too, I hear violins!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:59 AM
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In the process we deny ourselves too. Do you understand? If we withhold sex we arent getting laid. Why should it be up to the girls to deny ourselves sex and be frustrated. (Until a boyfriend comes along.) It is whilst waiting for a partner to come along that most people have casual sex, you are suggesting people who happen to be female should spend that time denying themselves and being utterly frustrated! You can wait years for Mr right to come along.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 09:52 AM
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Ever been a horny teenager desperate for sex, with an erection right next to a soaking horny vagina, but you feel the overwhelming sense that if you do it you will be called a slut, and feel deeply ashamed to your core, but you physically want it sooooo much more than anything? Its an agonising conflict which males are by and large exempt from. Got laid? High five! If you manage to resist you wank about it for months wishing you had done it, if you 'give in' you might regret it forever for diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:38 PM
1

Cool so you agree we can offer more than just sex and offspring. Fine, you're right we can't offer a good biscuit game or pissing contest! And unreciprocated sexual attraction can happen for either gender, in any friendship including same sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:28 PM
2

We were talking about 'denying the alphas sex.' I assumed this is a casual sex situation not getting a boyfriend as the wider context is slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:25 PM
1

Yeah this guy is pretty far gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:17 PM
1

We were discussing whether there is no challenge to getting laid for women. I told you my experience that there is. The challenges may be slightly different but its more or less just as difficult to find suitable partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 05:14 PM
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That's grim, why should the girls live a life of frustration while the boys don't? As a female with a sex drive this makes me want to tear my hair out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:35 AM
1

Yuk. Your use of the word 'submit' suggests you pressure them into it through resistance. Hope you're trolling, but if not, poor girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 08:09 AM
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When I was dating, it was before internet porn and I worry that this is now really common amongst young couples. Back in the day anal just wasnt on the agenda at all for normal young people, it would be seen as very extreme. I remembee one guy in our group got a reputation for asking for anal off girls, he was a laughing stock and girls avoided getting involved with him. When I split up with my previous LTR and went back into the dating market, I found it has become almost a standard part of hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:58 AM
1

Please explain the relevance of having been laid. Im straight, so the sex I havd had was with men. My having had sex doesnt proove that its somehow effortless for me, men got laid too. My answer- for a start, whenever I had sex with a boyfriend or someone I met online who wanted to be my boyfriend. Im ok looking but when men fall for me its always after they get to know my personality, so there you go. I had to work on it. On the occasions when I've gone out thinking that some casual sex would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:50 AM
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That is completely irrelevant. You think theres no skill involved for women? Try navigating the good girl/ slut hypocritical dichotomy which terpers are trying so hard to keep relevant. Thats a skill all women need to learn before we can enjoy sex, sadly. After that, there is indeed sport and enjoyment to be had I assure you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 01:00 AM
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I'm easily a 6 or 7, (or have been) and had hundreds of nights out where no reasonably attractive men fell out of the sky into my path for casual sex. In fact I'm not sure it's ever happened, my casual sex has been with people in my extended friend group and not very much of it. Have gone without for long periods of time, like some men do. It really isn't that magically different for us. I have a slim blonde and very cool friend who hasn't had sex in years. You can easily go a year with not a sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 08:09 PM
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Hey I just opened my legs. No instant magic dick appeared! Oh right because I'm a normal human in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:36 PM
0

You sound extremely confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:34 PM
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I've never heard of anyone doing things they didn't want to to 'win' commitment. That's not how it works. This hypothetical girl is insecure and delusional. In the real world, people try things out and may decide they don't like them, so they don't keep doing them. It isn't this big cunning power play you make it out to be, at least not for people with good mental health and healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:19 PM
5

Doesn't that apply to being friends with other men too? Female friends can offer benefits that male friends can, ie laughter, camaraderie etc. What are terps not supposed to have any friends now in the pursuit of sex and offspring? That is a bit cult-ish, you must admit!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:29 PM
4

Wow, what a sad life where you won't consider 50% of the population for friendship!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 04:21 PM
1

Absolute rubbish. You are wrong about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/15 06:53 AM
0

Simple answer: Some females don't understand sexual frustration from a male perspective. Others are highly sexed and can get sexually frustrated just like men. Its a RP myth that we can all just snap our fingers and get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 09:52 PM
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Is this a joke? Or real? If real, how exactly do you go about raising a boy red pill? How do you warn your daughter about those things? And I'm also perplexed why you would want her husband to be RP. Wouldn't that mean she got dread gamed and cheated on and basically treated as inferior? Do you treat her as inferior? Just curious how it works!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 02:53 PM
1

Got two sons. Raising them positively, and to treat others the way they want to be treated. Confident, healthy, interested in the world around them. To treat all people with respect. To all the guys saying they'll raise their kids Red Pill: Do you want your kids to eventually hold you in contempt? Cos that's how you get your kids to eventually hold you in contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 02:49 PM
1

Lol blame the evil feminists! Everything would be better without equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 04:37 PM
1

What's poor about it, apart from being completely spot on and demonstrating how ridiculous this thread is? Oh, and men also wear clothes so the Red Pill can't slate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 06:48 PM
2

He said he lied and pretended to be a feminist, I thought it must be exhausting to not just be yourself. Apparently wearing clearly visible makeup is the same as lying about your core beliefs! Juicy Terper logic mmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:27 PM
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The makeup is visible. There's no pretending to be born with purple eyelids. Your comparison is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:25 PM
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Well if that's the case then clothes are also manipulative as they aren't our true selves. Its normal to wear clothes in our society, and for women to wear makeup if they want. I for one don't feel lied to because of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:23 PM
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Were you truly deceived? Did you think she was born with purple eyelids or black lines along her eyelids? Didn't think so, come off your high horse!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 04:20 PM
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I think this is one of those examples of RP's seeming almost autistic, not understanding the subtleties of our culture or being able to empathise. Wearing makeup, for females, is the norm in our society. It isnt lying, it isnt deceipt, or manipulation. Any normal person knows that, and furthermore, can guess quite accurately what she looks like without it if they want to. I once questioned a RP who claimed that he lied about his opinions to everyone he knew, he was convinced that wearing makeup …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/15 12:36 PM
2

I think its less about the number and more about their attitude to casual sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 10:19 AM
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Its a really useless, daft and sensationalist hypothetical question, with a dumb agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:17 PM
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I think its sensationalist and clouds the issue rather than casts light on it. The point is, it isn't as black and white as RP makes out. I'm female, and would be perturbed if a guy had slept with hundreds, because I would wonder why he hadn't been forming normal, healthy relationships. I certainly wouldn't be finding this out after marriage, wtf? It all depends on the situation, the relationship you have developed, knowing them and why their past had been that way. The question becomes bizarre …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:05 PM
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Why is it always "hundreds of guys?" Its like, to Terpers, a girl is a virgin or a 'hundreds of guys slut.' The vast, vast majority have far lower numbers, why this wierd obsession?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:34 AM
7

Actual practical examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 08:45 AM
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Both genders hamster. The most prolific I've encountered are red pillers on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:27 PM
3

Yeah great tool of analysis: "Blame women for everything! It's their shitty nature!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:32 PM
3

I suppose plenty of people in this world are unable to overcome their issues, sadly. I'd suggest they keep striving for happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 02:55 PM
8

There is no one size fits all quick fix solution. We have to figure out what his issues are and work on them. Excercise, interests and confidence building are also certainly going to help!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 01:23 PM
2

Without knowing you, my guess is that you are acting more confident and less needy, which is good advice for anyone. Im guessing you haven't told these women that you think they are hypergamous child-brained sluts incapable of logic, honor, love or reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 08:18 AM
1

That's red-pill-esque batshit extremism not mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 05:01 PM
3

Why knock it off the list? Why not address both issues? Also, most western countries don't mutilate their sons penises, just the US. Circumcision is very much a gender equality issue in many countries and something feminism should be battling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 05:00 PM
3

There's the difference in the pills. You say knock it off the list, I say try to combat both injustices!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:49 PM
1

Well if its your own choice then I'm not sure what you're posting/ complaining about!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/15 07:45 AM
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I'm female, and too-good looks definitely put me off. As long as the guy wasn't ugly, I messaged much more on having a compatible profile and him seeming funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 06:46 PM
1

Not incorrect- at that point I genuinely don't want or intend to have sex. Its a definite no at that point. It is complicated and nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 06:35 PM
1

Some people are manipulative and shit tests may exist from men and women though I haven't really encountered it. A lot of what RP claims are shit tests, really aren't. When you ask someone's job, or various questions about them, you are making conversation, getting to know them. I've read 'field reports' where a girl said she wasn't going to have sex but eventually did, and the guy concluded it was a shit test. As a girl I've been in that situation loads of times, you don't want to be seen as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 10:04 AM
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Why on earth have you written 'friends' in inverted commas? Sometimes people are just friends, no-one's forcing them! Chin up, you'll meet someone eventually if you can halt the bitterness-spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 07:50 AM
2

I think people still crave companionship as much as they ever have. True, people marry less but they still have kids even if they split up more. This isn't always a bad thing and I think also reflects increased self- awareness, people are more enlightened and attuned to what makes them happy. So families become more complex but I think the trend over the last few decades has been human relationships getting more and more enlightened, hopefully we will continue to move in the right direction. RP …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 07:08 PM
-1

Only once though eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 07:19 AM
1

Looking nice is such obvious, universal common sense you can hardly call it a secret female strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 07:08 AM
0

Honestly, works for me and everyone I get on with. It isn't like communism because when you get a bad apple you just don't stay friends with them, the system doesn't crash down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 07:07 AM
1

That's insane. Not having a strategy in no way equates to that. Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 07:37 PM
2

You must be joking, right? How could you misinterpret a valid point so woefully?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 07:35 PM
1

The comment I replied to has been deleted. It basically implied that women have some secret conspiracy-strategy to get men to Marry us and RP is the male equivalent. My strategy is the common sense stuff like being myself, being nice and looking nice. Beyond that, no I don't have a strategy and certainly haven't needed to join a hate group to aquire confidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 07:26 PM
0

Isn't a fuck buddy meant to be a friend? That's what buddy means...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 04:44 PM
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I'm a woman, and believe me there is no secret strategy. We are just trying to figure life out, like yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 04:41 PM
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