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DiscussionYouHateTheMost/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:42 PM
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Royal affairs were an open secret. Men shagging their slaves was just another day. Village people sneaking to barns in all types of pairings was commonplace. Also prostitution is called "world's oldest profession" for a reason. Time before the 20th century was no less wild!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:30 AM
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Not to mention that many people couldn't read! There were board games and a metric ton of outdoor activities, both daytime and nighttime (just light a bonfire)... but your point does hold, this is also why areas hit by snowstorms see a baby boom 9 months later lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:25 AM
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Hey, good for you! Even with men who think that, they are within their right to choose a partner based on their convictions and personal experiences. However, a little bit of an insight into my mind, Idk how anecdotal it is... my first sexual partner competed with my idea of what sex is like. It was really hyped up to me as the best thing ever, the thing that gets people literally addicted, that once you pop, you can't stop... and needless to say, my first time fell way behind those expectations…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:05 PM
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Some women do. Just like some men also compare their partners to other women. Vain people walk the Earth among us, what are we to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:53 AM
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Saw the idea recently that goes smth like this: Men believe in virginity because they think their penis can change a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 02:55 AM
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And when their efforts to prove their "evil mum, victim dad" hypothesis fail, they resort to the classic "your anecdotal case proves nothing" non-argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 09:52 AM
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I agree. If a virgin man's past consists of several years of cooming to porn and consuming podcasts like Whatever and Fresh & Fit, it's silly to assume that he is entering the world of dating as a blank slate with an open mind. His past defo shaped his views on relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:39 AM
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But they don't "beta bux" those things, they love and cherish them. Besides, "better option" is highly subjective - like I said, higher value options are also higher maintenance, so those are "better" only if you see value in taking additional care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:29 AM
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That's a ridiculous reasoning. Did all the people who drive Toyotas settle because they couldn't get a Porsche, and thus there is no way their Toyota makes them happy? Did all the people who got a 2 bedroom house settle because they couldn't get a 12 bedroom mansion, and thus there is no way they can be happy with their house? Did all the people who adopted a stray cat from a shelter settle because they couldn't get a $40k winner Savannah, and thus there is no way the kitty they got makes them h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:25 AM
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The percentage changes from 30% to 5% depending on the blackness of pill of the poster, so Idc about the precise number. Also, you don't know these people, but are just concluding that guys get the beta bux treatment with no room for presuming happiness in those relationships? That's precisely what I stated in my comment: we just don't exist, because "all women are after 10% of men, full stop, end of argument" , so cheers for confirming my point Ig?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:36 PM
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That's a great way to see it. And yeah, I hate that "settling" is equated with "not getting the top of the line" - like they cannot accept that many people find happiness with what they can get!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:31 PM
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That's one of the hardest parts for me here, because way too many "rules" don't apply to me or people I know. For example, I see the "women after 10% of men" argument, and it's super hard for me to believe it, because most women I know are in loving relationships with men who aren't in top 10% by society's standards, and they love their partners and want to make it work with them! Yet to those men, we just don't exist, because "all women are after 10% of men, full stop, end of argument".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:05 PM
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And those divorces are often filed after years of trying to fix the relationship and to get the husband to put in effort. But the moment she files, the husband is all shocked YouTube thumbnail face, and "why doesn't she want to try again", and "she should've just told me", poor thing, him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:20 AM
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Highly desirable guys are not the only ones getting into loving relationships - I'll just leave you with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:16 AM
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Men put more effort into relationship to clear the bar and secure the girl, and once it's achieved, they drop the act - the girl is his and will face social consequences for leaving him, so she will put up with more just to preserve the relationship. If the bar is in hell, it means women allow men to get away with almost anything. And when they don't, men cry about 70% statistic and divorce rape. So either women suffer from being unhappy in a relationship or from being stigmatized by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:15 AM
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Again, women are picky at the dating stage. Once they choose the guy, once they are off the market - they commit to the guy, invest their efforts, do their best to make it work. There are some women with a wandering eye, sure, but there are some men like that, too, so kind of a moot point. So for guys to claim that they are justified in putting zero effort into making their woman happy because there’s a sliver of a chance that she will leave… well, they’re just making sure that their prophecy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:32 PM
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there is not much incentive for them to cater to your whims Try “she said yes to being exclusive to you and is eager to put effort into the relationship and being her best self for you”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:17 PM
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Exactly, “bar in hell” is usually applied to guys who are in a relationship with women. Women are at their pickiest at the dating stage, and the further into a relationship they are, the more they invested into the guy by that point so it’s harder to leave him, so the guy gets away with more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:31 PM
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Well, let's consider men and women of different ages who discover the RP ideology and desire to live by it. An 18-22 year old man: Hasn't had the time to accumulate wealth and experience yet, much more likely to be a virgin. Doesn't fit very well into the RP expectations indeed, cannot quite hope to live by RP just yet. An 18-22 year old woman: Hasn't had the time to accumulate wealth and experience yet, much more likely to be a virgin. Perfection. She just need to stay put and not do anything, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:27 AM
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Have you been in a committed LTR? Do you prefer casual sex or sex in a committed relationship, and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:02 PM
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Yeah I’d still want not just relationship, but marriage. One person I can entrust the most vulnerable parts of myself to and who would see me as just as trustworthy with his. I want my kids to have a mum and a dad, just like I have, and not a “polycule” or w/e confusing structure Gen Z invented lately. This is God’s design for men and women for a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:37 AM
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That’s a weird approach. Height doesn’t determine a creep, and if you set a standard, normal men who don’t match that standard (under 6 ft in your example) will simply shrug and swipe left. You won’t ward off creeps, but you will ward off men who respect you and themselves enough not to waste time if there’s a mismatch from the get go - they won’t bother checking if you actually don’t mean it, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:41 PM
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Evangelical Christians (and other ultra conservative religious followers for that matter) are not my thing at all and I’d never be in a relationship with any of them. That said, I admire their discipline, their devotion to their beliefs, their strong family ties, and their grooming habits. Hope this helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:30 AM
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Disagree. Only when they have no basis in reality whatsoever. Idk, let’s take calling a guy who cannot approach girls an incel, and an obese woman a landwhale. Based on reality? Sure. But productive? Only if the desired result is to shoo them back into their shell, which was likely the reason they ended up like that in a first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:51 AM
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I’m just cheeky about him stating that I’m the only liar here, with a reminder that according to this sub, all women anywhere left to the center lie at all times, so I’m in a good company 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:34 AM
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There’s a lot of middle ground between “trust all of them” and “trust none of them”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:44 AM
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Only? I thought all women left of the center are liars and make it their life's purpose to ruin lives of poor innocent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:15 AM
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I took the post as about volcels. Incels don't need this post, they need a "The Case for Pick-Up Artistry: How to Win a Rigged Game" post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:14 AM
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So are men, especially abusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:11 AM
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4chan memes best memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:05 PM
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men are very capable of rising above their biology literally a quote from your reply. If you meant relationships, should've said so. And yeah, men are very capable of not committing to women and keeping on looking for ONS, that's the news to no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:56 PM
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Exactly. Not as revenge, but as taking time for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:52 PM
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"Rising above" as in not caring about women at all? MGTOW tried, but every other thread in their communities is still like: <image> It's not "rising above" if the object of your aboverising still lives rent free in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:41 PM
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Ah we're at "women lie about being abused, but men never do" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:20 PM
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if you're lucky enough to have an ex who doesn't falsely accuse you of abuse out of spite “Falsely”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:19 AM
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Women in all age groups commit domestic violence at higher rates than men. Good old results of self-reporting. When researchers probed deeper, it turned out that women were more self-critical on which of their actions constituted domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 10:14 AM
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you Pls don't shoot, I'm just a messenger. Each time you are going to blame "men" for something, replace it with "conservatives". Literally what I did, not a single word in my reply is "men", I said "Blackpill claim".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:12 PM
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And I disagreed with your disagreement. That's what this subreddit's for!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:04 AM
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When low IQ women say stupid shit, they condescend on other women. “Sweetheart” is in dumb women’s arsenal. TIL this PPDer is a low IQ woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:00 AM
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If in a particular woman's worldview sex is not something to easily given, but a manifestation of a deeper bond and one of the important elements that bind a marriage together, and she herself is looking for a deep marital bond, then for such a woman a man who has given that thing which she considers special to multiple random people would indicate that this man does not share her worldview. So how are we all feeling about people who used to see sex as easily given (peer pressure, pop culture, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:48 AM
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Literally an example of looks not being the problem in the root comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:23 AM
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The reason they get flak, especially guys 25+ years old, is that they lament about how hard it is to find a virgin, often with some slut-shaming of women their age sprinkled on top. Like yeah, not having had sex by that age is unusual in the secular world, so... you're complaining that other people aren't an anomaly like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:08 AM
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Literally married a virgin. I would never reject a guy for being a virgin if the rest of him is attractive to me - it simply means he hasn't had sex yet, we all have been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:00 AM
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Men don't like no fault divorces? Please give me a statistic backing that claim. I'm guessing it's in response to the popular Blackpill claim that "women give up a good marriage to monkey branch to Chad", even though many women cite very sensible reasons for divorce and don't get married again for months, years, or ever after it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:42 AM
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If it was actually that important to them, why not wait to get the relationship first and to be in a relationship for a while before sex? Because a lot of us, both guys are girls, are conditioned to believe that if a girl doesn't put out soon enough for the guy, she is wasting his time. Thus we have guys breaking up with girls who don't have sex with them on a guy's timeline, and girls believing that they do need to give in and have sex with a guy, because it's the right thing to do not to waste…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:08 AM
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Excuses excuses. Men will never be like "nah, won't sleep with you, you're too chaste for me" - the opposite is the case, coercing a chaste girl to give in on a promise of relationship, marriage, w/e.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:24 AM
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yay an interview! Why do you think men cater to women? Because vag is more in demand than peen. Why are women more in demand? Higher contribution to the relationship, and I don't mean material/financial. Why are men over-supplied? Because men always were a testing ground for nature, compared to women who needed to be preserved so that they can bring in the next generation. Do you think the latter two are social or biological? Biological. Why haven't men tried to balance that out yet? Oh they try…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:23 AM
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Theyre grossed out by the thought of committing their time and resources to her. But they sure like taking these women's resources (chastity)...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:46 PM
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It's called realistic. Well done!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:27 PM
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Plenty of other men have had that why can’t I? And even more men had got a woman other men tried to "claim" with their peen and ended up in a happy marriage with her. There are less virgins than non-virgins, it's just a fact. You can keep looking for your virgin, of course, but stay real with yourself that you're narrowing your options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:26 PM
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Once again, men here are hypocritical about women who have casual sex. Demanding sex immediately and then being all "ick" she's had sex immediately before. It's a matter of pride and competitive nature. Those men want to see themselves as the only man worth having sex on first date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 11:21 PM
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I have 4 chicks in my DMs right now. Mediocre ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:52 AM
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Well, to me, this just confirms that those "Christian" women never had their heart with God in the first place, if they gave up search for a Christian man because a man that matches their worldly standard came along and that was good enough for them. Unless you mean some other religion than Christianity - I know that Islam doesn't prohibit you to marry a follower of another faith, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 07:38 PM
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Lol this thread is literally a confirmation that men do get offended by “kill all men” jokes (as they should). A but late to backtrack on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:13 PM
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Cheers for sharing the results! Well yeah, it depends on the rules you set, but starting at the top is always easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:08 PM
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“BuT sEx is nOt neCesSAry fOR sURviVaL.” Can’t stand these people. If you believe the needs of your partner to be dismissible, not letting him/her go and find happiness is straight up cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:45 PM
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Ah, filtering out all women but those sharing your very specific brand of humour. Clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:21 PM
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Eh, hit ‘em right back with a comment on Simon Cowell’s plastic surgery or smth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:16 PM
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Srsly, the 100+ partners is like 0.01% of all women. Why can’t it be “would you rather have it difficult with a virgin or easy with a woman with a more typical n-count?”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:05 AM
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Laddies, would you rather be ugly and rich or attractive and poor? Caveats: to become attractive in the first scenario, you need to spend all your money (making you attractive and poor); to become rich in the second scenario, you need to work like crazy, neglecting your physical appearance (thus becoming ugly and rich).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:52 AM
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I too appreciate George Carlin and still hope that he did find God by the end of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:43 AM
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Ikr, absolute legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:39 AM
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You all need Jesus. He forgives fornicators and celebrates virgins, he’s pretty rad ✝️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:12 AM
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What lvl wizard are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:10 AM
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When it comes to life of excess, I’m like Socrates at the market, finding amusement and joy in that there exists so much stuff I am happy without. If my man does not shower me with presents, my cluttered life and I are so relieved. I’ve got plenty of things to make use of, I’m a happy gal, I don’t need more. As for luxury brands and expensive restaurants… nothing screams “I’ll be broke soon” louder than overpaying for things that aren’t worth it. Very unattractive. My husband rly wants me to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:02 AM
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A woman who loves her chaotic, easygoing party girl lifestyle would not want to give it up for any man. If you are the man who got her to give it up for a more preppy and respectable public image, and not miss it one bit, that truly indicates that you are special. Men want to be special to their women. Plus, it's nice to have that chaotic, easygoing party girl in the bedroom - something that ladies, who are more demure from the start, cannot offer!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:01 AM
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I remember wondering why that is, and a quick Web search proposed the answer to that as: "When men put themselves together, they usually do it to impress women - so they cannot fathom the idea of putting yourself together for any reason other than attracting the opposite sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:48 AM
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Aw, you’re too kind! I’m a lucky woman too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 04:09 AM
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Exception, most defo. Job prestige matters to people so much they are willing to take a lower-paying, more demanding, but more glamorous job over a higher-paying, less demanding, but less glamorous one. But that’s pride, and as a Christian, if I can help it, I won’t let myself be a slave to pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:34 AM
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I’d do it if it was the only job available to me and my family needed me to work it. It’s an honest job, needed by society, and I’m a hygiene freak so you bet I’ll scrub myself good after hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 03:11 AM
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This is a bait, isn't it? I feel terrible about it. I would never hurt any marriage like that. Even if I believe myself to be better than his wife - he made his choice, he's not single anymore, so there's no place for me in his heart, or for him in mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:43 AM
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that means you didn’t have a real emotional connection to him That is correct. I wasn't exactly taught that I can say no, I was taught that men have needs and I'm also kind of a people pleaser, so combine the two and. I guess we’ll just invalidate the entire saying because it didn’t apply to you? Not just to me but to many other women. Otherwise we'd see an insane rate of relationship where the "first ever" happened surviving for life - men are already reporting higher relationship satisfaction,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:23 AM
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I don’t remember my first, only the place and the “that’s it?” feeling. I think, however, that he believed the same thing you did and thought he had me under his thumb for life, which is why he contacted me 5 years later. Sadly for him, he was laughed out of my DMs. Guess I was immune to the first time ever charm :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:13 AM
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Ok, so? Lots of our firsts happen not the way we expected, especially in retrospect. Focus not on the first one, but on the best one!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:24 AM
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Sex work profits literally correlate with the health of the economy. When the recession is close, this is the first industry which people cut their expenses on. I'd rather have a stable farmer or construction worker job than a flimsy "entertainer" job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:13 PM
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Cus nobody gives a shit anymore. I know that consideration for others is in short supply these days, but that's why being a considerate human being, a considerate partner, makes you a much more valuable partner in the sea of people who only ask the "What's in it for me?" question when considering somebody for a relationship. Wouldn't you want to stand out? Who cares if I cheat before I divorce anymore? Well, you should care, because now you know that you're a willing cheater. You can try to just…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:57 PM
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So do puritans Absolutely. However, sinners who commit sins unacceptable by society (like adultery) are shunned away by the world and thus are much more open to receive the Holy Spirit than sinners who commit sins acceptable by society (like the sin of believing oneself to be too good to associate with people who commit sins unacceptable by society). So, honestly, how do you approach someone who has their own God, hateful and dismissive, and is encouraged by the rest of the world to stick by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:44 PM
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I thought of her potty mouth and an abrasive sense of humour. But yeah, come to think of it, there's hardly any way for a true tomboy to "look very traditionally feminine" and remain a tomboy, aka be always up for sports, or tinker with electronics. Very traditional feminine look is uber restrictive and demanding, can't exactly shoot hoops in a dress with a pettycoat, and most of your time goes into perfecting your style rather than learning about the latest in tech. I think the root comment aut…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:22 PM
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Sabrina Carpenter comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:27 PM
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I'd say that having a relationship that is always easy is the modern idea of a relationship. Even siblings who literally grow up together have fights, how do we expect two people from two completely different lie experiences to have a perfectly frictionless relationship? Relationship is work. If you don't want to put in effort into meeting your partner in the middle, it's best for you to stay alone. If my partner wants to have sex with someone else, fine, fuck off, there's the door. Actually ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:03 PM
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I fully expect the person to invalidate my feeling of neglect abd call me insecure. Why would you choose a girl, whom you expect not to respect your feelings, for an LTR? I hope you'd choose better than that, so there'd be no such expectation. As fur why would I cheat before breaking up? As a woman on reddit said a while back - to gain the confidence to do so I don't know, just committing adultery with someone is no guarantee that your life will become more fulfilling from that point on. For the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:30 PM
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puritanical adjective practicing or affecting strict religious or moral behavior. "his puritanical parents saw any kind of pleasure as the road to damnation" Idk, declaring that you'd cut contact with your friend on the basis of her committing a sin sounds very puritanical. Even Jesus dined with sinners, so what, these people believe themselves to be of higher standing than Jesus? Sinners need love and help, not ostracizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:11 PM
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I would give her some tough love by telling her that this is destructive for everybody involved. That by wasting her time on hoping that a married guy leaves his wife (which is unlikely, we all know that men would rather stay in an unhappy marriage than get a divorce), she misses out on finding a good guy who would be full-on hers. Maybe would bring in my religion and tell her that "Thou shalt not commit adultery" is literally one of the Ten Commandments, and for a good reason. If she dismisses …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:50 PM
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Why cheat if you can break up/divorce? Also, wouldn't you at least try to bring it up with her and try to resolve it to make it a happy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:41 PM
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and to make sure I am not tempted to cheat if I ever decide to give up power enough to settle. Think again, buddy. Men's marriage satisfaction decreases as the number of provious partners increases. Women's too, but that is drummed up on PPD non-stop, let's remember that men are also affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:23 PM
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I thought ordinary guys, short or tall, don't get dates, only the top 20% does?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:17 PM
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Idk about 90%, but yeah, looks are important. But that’s a red pill position, not black pill, and I fully agree on it. The black pill is “short kings will never ever get the girl”, and as someone who had a huge crush on a short guy, I full on disagree. (Inb4 why didn’t you ask him out: He was a trainer, and I was far from a star trainee, so I felt like there’s no way I’m worthy of him.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:47 AM
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Ah that might be it. Yeah, same, but been leaning blue lately - redpill gets quite conspiratorial at times and I don't vibe with it, but they do get quite a number of things about relationships right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:33 AM
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Judging by the type of threads/comments many people with a “Purple Pill” flair post on here, I feel confident to assume that to them, “purple” means not “a mix of blue and red”, but “one shade shy of black”. In other words, way too many blackpillers pick purple for their pill color and it’s quite confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:17 AM
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Not Capitalize Every Single Word In A Sentence, For Starters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:46 PM
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I don’t know how you can get more negative than “used up divorcee” and “got knocked up by Chad and now is looking for a sucker beta to provide for her and her Chad spawn”, but I’m open to be proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:28 PM
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OK, and? He has other advantages that men with a past may not have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:47 PM
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Not at all. Here's one example. A man was uber successful with girls due to his good looks, but then got into a car accident or some genetic disorder acted up and he lost his attractiveness, which in turn did a number on his self-esteem. All that a woman sees in the present is a not-that-good-looking man with self-esteem issues. His past conquests don't mean jack anymore, that man is gone. Here's another example. A man was a kissless hermit in college but then got good male friends who gave him …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:12 PM
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Yeah, took me a hot minute to realize, answered in another reply to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:22 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you mean "why do women prefer men with sexual experience?" by your question. As a woman who has no preference in that, I cannot quite speak from experience. I can only assume it's because those women see you having the past as an indicator of you having been proactive in the dating scene (since men are still perceived as initiators) and knowing how to treat a woman so well she would be open to have sex with you. Not to mention the competitive side of it, "he co…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:21 PM
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What? Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:05 PM
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I know what you’re going for, but that’s correct, for both men and women. All that matters is the person here and now, and quite a few of us learn from the past and want to distance ourselves as far from it as we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:40 PM
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It’s whatever and kind of expected lol, I believe that you need to have quite a few conversations to truly get to know the person before you, mind body and soul. Initial attraction makes no difference, as long as he’s fallen in love with me after he got to know me better :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:24 AM
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Boobies are good, but have you heard City Escape from Sonic Adventures 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:11 AM
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I want to contribute too. Sex sex sexy sexy sex. We love to discuss sex, monkey brain activate. Political or cultural differences are boring, but sex makes testosterone (both in men and women) go brrr. Testosterone is directly connected to both sexual and competitive behaviour, so one comes together with the other. I really hope you all find love and happiness, if you haven't yet. God bless :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 01:21 AM
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Oh no, am I supposed to like girls to be approved by DaddyStone13 the Blackpiller? But the Bible says homosexuality is bad, and I rly love my husband. Guess there is no chance for me to gain favour with DaddyStone13 the Blackpiller :(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:27 PM
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Lol yup, I have an obnoxiously high standard of liking guys that look nothing like Jason Momoa, like my husband. But if he's your type, that's okay! (But I don't endorse it, cuz Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:51 PM
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Agree, decriminalized at the very least. Of course, human trafficking and other types of exploitation should be prosecuted with utmost severity- but let’s give girls an opportunity to get help from the authorities if they were done wrong by clients or managers. As a Christian, I’d like to see the world where prostitution just ceases to exist and sex is reserved for marriage, but it’s a fallen world, so gotta do our best to at least protect the vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:01 AM
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These are not the words of a happy man. I hope you’re healing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:40 PM
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Your vindictive spirit is truly saddening, good sir. I'll pray for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:05 PM
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Don’t care, no hipsters pls
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:31 PM
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Hipster? Hard pass lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:45 AM
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There is a difference between someone having been a smoker 5 years ago but quitting with no desire to smoke again ever, someone quitting smoking 5 years ago but regretting it and still longing for a cigarette, and an active smoker who does not intend to quit. Yet if all three of them are presented with a “Have you ever smoked?” question, they all will have to answer “yes” and be labeled as “smoker” with zero differentiation between the three. That’s the difference between a person and a resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:18 AM
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Well, from what I observe, men don’t want women to be into all types of men, but they want women they are into to be into their type of a man. Kinda like romcom scenario where a desirable girl is disgusted by attractive and successful guys, but the below average guy walks in, and she can’t help but be madly in love with him because “he’s not fake” or w/e other totally realistic reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:52 PM
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Wait, there is a “virgins are drafted first” rule? Who’s checking? Can you just lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:33 PM
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Well I'm not the "believe all victims" crowd. If I had a daughter who came back in distress because of alleged SA, I'd comfort her and help her file a police report - but the "alleged" label stays until there is solid evidence against this particular man. Even more the reason if she is visibly not in any distress, but has very strong negative feelings against said man and is way too eager to let everybody but the police know. I would not go out of my way to falsify any evidence, to bear false wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:04 PM
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Good advice, if only we all were good at taking good advice in our youth. We're stupid without our life experience, and we do make mistakes and disregard good advice because we believe we know better at our ripe age of 20 years old. This is inevitable. And then, in hindsight, and especially hearing other young people not having done the same mistake you made back in our youth, we're pretty much shamed into believing we had no excuse for not making that mistake. Dear young people, guys and gals -…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:59 AM
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Good question. My presumption is that it's because society has done a fantastic job over many centuries keeping the spotlight of sexual sin on women, with men staying out of the public attention no matter their escapades (if not praised for said escapades). This pretty much conditioned everybody, men and women, to only do chastity checks on women and hold chastity as a metric of only a woman's worth in marriage. We are products of our culture, which goes back centuries, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:47 AM
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Well, when it comes to accusations as serious as this, I prefer to stay impartial until there is at least some solid evidence for or against either side. Loyalty is precisely the thing that results in the broken justice system, with so many friends and family of judges and politicians getting away with awful crimes, so even though I would feel loyal towards my kid, I'm hopeful that it wouldn't cloud my judgement. If he indeed did it, I would not shield him from consequences of his actions, espec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:34 AM
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Never happened to me, so there's no way to tell how I'd actually react. But here's how I hope I'd react: I would go down the "innocent until proven guilty" route and try to gather as much evidence as I can on both sides. Factors that would most strongly affect my judgement is willingness of either side to cooperate with me and the law enforcement. Same as internally, I would withhold from taking either side - the public pressure to take a side would be the hardest part, probably, but I hope I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:34 AM
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That's a separate issue of forced labour. Let's stick to the scenario where both the client and the provider are engaged in it consensually. I'm talking independent escorts, cam girls, OnlyFans models, even some streamers who outright profit from young men's thirst. In this case, sex work is performed on equal footing - the provider gets payment, the client gets his needs satisfied. Neither is good or bad more than the other. Celebrating these "liberated" women while condemning "desperate" men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 01:12 AM
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No more than I agree that women who provide sexual services are bad people. In fact, I disagree with both. Either group is capable of taking advantage or being taken advantage of. Framing it as "men are disgusting, but women are liberated or victims" is just another contribution towards the "woman good man bad" rhetoric that is tearing us all apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:32 AM
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Oh yeah I checked his profile too 😂 It's adorable that the only type of woman that deserves the "high value" label by his definition is also the one that conveniently puts her own life aside in order to be of 24/7 service to her adult, most likely able-bodied husband. Like, why is his life more valuable than mine that I need to sacrifice my life for his sake? The Bible puts men and women at equal value!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:24 AM
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We don't arrest cheaters, true. Nonetheless, I have not met an individual, man or woman, aside from individuals with the most twisted views on relationships, who would have a positive opinion on cheating. It is universally seen as damaging, and divorce courts often treat cheating by one of the spouses as a reason to deny that spouse certain things they would be entitled to otherwise. I agree with decriminalizing sex work, so that people who stumbled wouldn't have their life ruined over it, but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 12:00 AM
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Then you just virtue signal. If you support sex work as part of society, but would think less of those who engage in it, then you don't actually support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:52 PM
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I agree with you, younger people look fresher than older people… but then they open their mouth, and all the attraction flies out the window. And I’m spending my time not with a hot body, but with a person, so if I have to choose between young or mature body and mind package deal, my level of maturity it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:21 PM
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That’s a lot of words for “nooo, muh casual seeex, pls don’t abstain women!”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:41 AM
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Wait, if he’s a marriage material, he has to be the type opposed to casual sex? Just like women who engage in casual sex are no marriage material?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:57 AM
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Yup, abstinence until marriage it is, the Bible was right all along!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:42 AM
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Seriously. The way options are put together lol. “Would you rather be a selfish, uncaring careerist who only cares about providing the life she wants for herself and will inevitably die alone🤮? Or would you rather be an selfless, cherished angel of the house who wants nothing more than to see her husband and children thrive and will be guaranteed to be surrounded by kids and grandkids all of whom love her so much for all the sacrifices she makes for them 😇?” Like, as a Christian wife, I’m more i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:02 AM
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Raising the next generation has an effect on the individual children you are raising. But these children (or just boys, by this metric) then go on to join the society. No children, no society - no way around that!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:32 PM
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It could be her not using her own birth control, but it also could be birth control failure, like birth control pill has 93% to 99% effectiveness, so one out of 100 women will still get an oopsie baby even if she uses it perfectly. Anyway, I agree, if a woman doesn't want to risk kids, abstinence until marriage is the only 100% guarantee of it, the Bible was right all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:01 PM
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Majority of women are not okay with that, this is a question similar to the "Men, why are you okay with husbands hitting wives?" type of question. Maybe would have a better success at baiting answers at r/askliberals .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:03 PM
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Both option imply that a man will get a partner, it's just a matter of sooner or later. If you're guaranteed to have somebody who would enthusiastically pick you, of course you'll wait longer to have that. The better question would be "Would you rather be settled for but guaranteed a partner, or hold on for being picked but risk ending up single for the rest of your life?".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:55 PM
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Then it's another discussion, on abstinence until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:46 PM
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I mean true, but I pin it on the birth control failure (whether the mum didn't use one at all or the condom broke). If she picked the wrong guy for casual sex, she did not choose poorly, because she wasn't choosing the father of the future kid - it's just that if there's sex, there's a possibility of a baby. I'm not talking about baby trapping attempts, ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:31 PM
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If it’s one of the other, then I’m picking passion and excitement. Stability and comfort makes me think of a quaint suburban area, where everyday is boringly predictable, and housewives are calling the cops on any stranger who dares walking on the sidewalk. Screw that golden cage, let’s run free.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:48 PM
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Yup! If a woman is so easy for other guys, but makes you jump through hoops to have a chance with her, you can't help but look in the mirror and see a man who is obviously losing to not just a few, but a lot of other dudes. That's where the "eh, she chooses poorly anyway" copium hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:38 PM
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I mean, for every feminist post over here we have 5 manosphere posts, so feminism is clearly not as prominent. Edit: Heck, I'm looking at the "Hot" page right now, and the first 6 threads are: If the majority of women "hate" players, how the hell does a guy become a player in the first place? "Game" is just dilluted PUA. One is derived from the other. And its all gambling addiction motivated by lack of sexual success You can have everything working in your favor as a guy and be the better catch …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:25 PM
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I know this study, link for those who doesn't - it's actually by Nicholas H. Wolfinger of IFS. The difference between the group with the highest (1 lifetime partner, 64%) and the lowest (6-10 lifetime partners, 52%) probability of marital satisfaction is 12% in absolute percentage and 19% in relative percentage. Interestingly enough, women with over 10 lifetime partners are more likely to report marital satisfaction than women with 4-10 lifetime partners! Similar trend is observed in men (71% fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:22 AM
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I checked his account, and he only posted one thread, in the r/exmormon subreddit. Oh I think you at least came across it, it's pretty popular in teachings by evangelical Christians about the importance of no sex before marriage. The idea is that a chaste person, who stayed a virgin until marriage, is like a new piece of gum in a wrapper, and a fornicator is like a chewed up, "used" piece of gum. Just like nobody wants the chewed up piece of gum, if you had sex before marriage, you can expect th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:59 AM
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Whatever reinforces your confirmation bias. Brother, this sub is packed with confirmation biases. "This research confirms my point of view, trust the science!" "This anecdotal experience confirms my point of view, we're literally living it!" But: "This research disproves my point of view, must be bias or measurement error." "This anecdotal experience disproves my point of view, anecdotal experiences mean nothing." I think the key takeaway is that individuals are not statistics, and life is way t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:08 AM
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He’s an ex-Mormon. Looks like traces of that very puritan culture are still there… they really love the chewed up gum analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:35 AM
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Agree, they praise madonnas in public, then open TikTok and enjoy the reel of algorithm-selected hoes. They get the best of both worlds and they’d like to keep it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:48 AM
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Lol why such strong reaction to someone not keeping up with what's popular?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:14 PM
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Oof. Well done highlighting how OP pretty much told on himself with this one!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:59 AM
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To the Highest Level of Manosphere Patrons Approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:29 PM
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Then what's there to be upset at with her lol. Do you just assume that every woman that makes you wait must have had 50 men in the past whom she didn't make wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:54 PM
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I mean, she's already viewed as a hoe, making you wait changes nothing for her. So the only reason that she makes you wait is that... you're not worth being a hoe for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:48 PM
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But wait, if a woman is trying to earn your commitment so badly, why would she make you wait lol. Especially if she knows that you know that she didn't make other guys wait. Something does not add up. She makes you wait/pay for her because she loses in something if she dates/has sex with you, no other explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:45 PM
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Nooo how dare all men not have me as their first choice, I'm literally shaking here!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:34 PM
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If a girl, who was easy with 50 guys before you, makes it this hard for you to date her... this probably means that you are too high a stake to date/sleep with. Maybe she can tell that her social reputation will go down if she is seen with you in public and she wants you to make up for it? Figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:17 PM
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And most of these men murdered are… men who live the life of high risk and high reward, the life of crime. Murdered by other men who also engage in this lifestyle. Most women murdered are civilians, unrelated to the world of crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:35 AM
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No, even though I’m in the States right now. If I’m frozen by fear, no amount of guns on me will snap me out of that paralysis. If my fight of flight kicks in properly, I’d rather do minimal damage to the perpetrator and escape with my life than pretend like I’m in an action movie - life isn’t one and I’m no main character. Maybe my response will be different if I undergo firearm training, but for now, I wouldn’t trust myself to put a gun in the best use in such situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:08 AM
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So, who selects what music to play on the car stereo? Who selects the movie to watch? And again, what do you talk about, if you and your girl, by your own admission, like completely different things?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:21 PM
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I had very little in common with her but we got on better than anyone Ive ever been out with. So… how did you spend your time together? What did you talk about? I’m in my early 30s, but can’t imagine being a good match with smb 10 years my junior or senior, because whichever decade you grew up during shapes you, your tastes, your attitude towards life a lot - and having differences in those is really pronounced in romance. There’s a reason why the most stable marriages are the ones with the leas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:13 PM
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Ok, hold out for your 20-something, it’s legal to stay single. If you’re getting flak, smth tells me it’s not because you’d like a 20-something partner, but because of the way you talk about women who had the audacity to age out of that bracket and gasp lived their life before you met them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:06 PM
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I think you just solved the puzzle :) female friends are baaad unless they collectively agree that /u/Youcbah is a total catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:50 PM
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Nah, apparently sisterhood is toxic, so that’s no good, so pls help us dumb women out, o wise one, what female friends are good for us?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:47 PM
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Alright, what female friends are we permitted to have, the ones that will gush with us over a new stain remover?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:43 PM
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So, when women have female friends, it’s all fake, and when women have male friends, they only have them for validation. So, the only way for a woman to win is… not to have any friends. Conveniently, this also gives her a lot of time to dedicate to her partner/children, and shelters her from the rest of the world, leaving the formation of her worldview at her partner’s discretion. Okay, Stepford husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:39 PM
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How’s this related to my point? Are you confirming it by saying that a special needs child would take away from your good life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 08:11 PM
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Well, cannot speak for millions, I don't follow mommy influencers that closely. But the more popular ones that I've seen, with picturesque homes and nurseries, consistently treating their kids to smth not every parent can afford, they clearly do have resources most of us don't - either from their influencer career or some external source, like their husband's income. The exception is content about frugal life, but that's more niche than mainstream influencers. An unmarried girl sees that and rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 07:18 PM
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From my observation, to a pretty significant part, it’s due to lifestyle inflation, aided by popular culture and social media. There’s a desire among many young women to have a picture perfect life, just like they see on Instagram, and they recognize that having kids will take away from curating that picture perfect life, especially when their resources are scarce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:26 PM
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OK at least you’re consistent (at least on paper)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:12 PM
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Would you wait until marriage with a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:09 PM
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So, if your girl had 2 partners before marriage, you gotta send her back to the streets to accumulate 2-3 more partners for the lowest possible chance of divorce with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:46 AM
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We love it when redpills are fighting 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:41 AM
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How does it feel knowing that you’ll never have a chance with any of “no hymen no diamond” PPD patrons?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:38 AM
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Well, was it the tingles... or the inexperience, or the low self-esteem, or the hope for things to change for the better, or all of the above? "I told you so" is justified, but interactions between friends are not about competition. Unfortunately, many people use other people's mistakes as opportunities to feel better about themselves ("well I'd never make such stupid mistake!") and it's apparent in how the advice or the "I told you so" is delivered. And the last thing you need when going throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:52 AM
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I concur with most women here - we can tell when things are off, but we rationalize it to ourselves and others, because admitting that we’ve made a mistake is embarrassing and opens us up to “I told you so”s from Captain Hindsights in our life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:16 AM
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The definition of "unworthy" is up for debate, but I for one would argue that people who can potentially harm their partner shouldn't be in a relationship. Hurt people hurt people, and if your partner ends up being the sponge of the venom you secrete, he or she will get destroyed by that venom as well, and we don't need more broken people in this already profoundly sick society. One example would be girls with untreated BPD, who traumatize guys whom they get in a relationship with - I think they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 02:05 AM
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Yeah, misandrists is indeed more accurate, thank you! They've got so many labels these days, it's hard to keep up :) And yeah, the popular social media platforms are designed that way, to recommend content that drives more engagement - and hate content generates a looot of engagement. I don't use TikTok or Instagram, but when I look at the Recommended page on YouTube and it makes me depressed, I remember the good old Search function and search up content I know won't make me angry at anyone, lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:17 PM
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lol that YT link wasn’t there when I commented, I thought you’re just being funny and played along
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:05 AM
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This is messed up, friend. So sorry you crossed paths with a crazy, and so sorry for your memorabilia loss. Hope that you've healed or healing well from that, and gj getting a restraining order.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:44 PM
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Does not happen in the rest of this comment section?... other men shared their own experiences using the "my date/ex-GF/ex-wife did this and that" format, and people, men and women, trust their stories and empathize. Your reply, on the other hand, reads like your regular PPD generalization, "women this and women that, amirite bros?", and you even topped it with another generalization, "women never believe when men share genuine experience, so why would I, amirite bros?". If you wanna try again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:38 PM
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I don’t get this, surely I cannot be that exceptional? I feel sympathy for both men and women who’ve been done wrong by the opposite sex, and I celebrate the successful underdog of both sexes. I also see many women in comments being sympathetic to men who’ve been done wrong by women. Beside the ultrafeminist part of TikTok and the right side of the Whatever podcast table, where are all these women who hate on men sharing their pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:24 PM
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Ah I hear you. That’d be nice if we all were that good at vetting for the right lifetime partner… hopefully you’ll find a girl who will be luckier than some of us, and you’ll be her first man, and the right one for her, too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:22 PM
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Yeah I just use exaggerated language for emphasis. So, 1-2 for you. Would that be throughout her entire life (1-2 partners total on her 70th birthday) or up to a certain age (like, under 25)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:24 PM
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And if she’s got more than some flaws? Will a negative body count help her marriage prospects?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:35 PM
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You’re right. Allow me to issue a correction: Ladies, take note, if you want to LDR/marry a based PPD alpha male, keep your count at under 2 (the alpha male will be your 3rd)! That is, unless you want to be a 4+ count slut who can only marry a normie beta male (🤮).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:11 PM
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Darn 4+ counts and their pair bonding inability :( if they slept with 3 men or less, they’d see that this PPD patron is the catch!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:35 PM
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Ladies, take notes, only 3 men are allowed within your lifetimes! Don’t be the nasty 4-count slut 🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:04 PM
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I hate Reddit most of the time, but people like you make me love it sometimes. You put it together so well, hats off!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:50 AM
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So we become nasty, high count, cheating sluts at the 4th man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:45 AM
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No it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:37 AM
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Lads of PPD, is there a middle ground between pure, undefiled, devoted virgins and nasty, high count, cheating sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:36 AM
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Well, congrats, you’ve met the main requirement of the PPD regulars for the LDR/marriage! Whom will you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:30 AM
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Being a NEET, the longer you’ve been one, the less desirable you are as a potential long-term partner/husband. No, being too special for a 9-6 job is not a valid reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:26 AM
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Not total, I support abortion in cases of medical complications, incest and (on a case by case basis) rape. Otherwise, yeah - if a man is adult enough to put his penis in there, he is adult enough to be responsible for what comes out of it, and if a woman is adult enough to spread her legs, she is adult enough to be responsible for what happens in between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 11:24 PM
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For real. First it was “men shouldn’t be obligated to care for kids that aren’t theirs”, ok, fair enough. But now I see posts like “if a man didn’t want the kid and wanted his woman to abort it, then he shouldn’t be obligated to care for the kid”. Believing that you should be able to opt out of any adult responsibility whenever you feel like it is peak manchild attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:41 PM
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I hear what you're saying, it's not easy for lads either. But again, the hurdle that you listed is societal, not biological. It is indeed harder for a 50 year old man to find a fertile woman to date/marry, but if he finds one, or even if he pays one, he will be able to conceive a child with her naturally. For a woman, once her last egg is gone, it's over, forever, no second chance - we don't produce eggs throughout our entire life. Young man's time may be "wasted", but to him, if he improves his…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:22 PM
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Societally, sure. Biologically though... how would you like to have a 25 year window of fertility, of which 5-10 years are spent figuring yourself out, and the remaining years are spent finding a partner who will support you as you are going through years of helplessness due to a baby heavily dependent on you? Not to mention all the risks associated with pregnancy... Society makes women's lives easier because it recognizes that in a natural course of action, our biology hits us harder than it hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:04 AM
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I agree, what's worse is that it's so exacerbated by social media. Many women are beautiful, but ruining their natural beauty with that trend chase :( even freaking Kardashian-Jenner sisters looked so cute before face mods!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:14 PM
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I just needed to distribute boxing ring corners, you wanna be in the blue one?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:11 PM
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Oh I know, there was that research that showed that "attractive woman/man" looked quite different to men and women surveyed. I have more baby face features, so I'm more "men-attractive", but for the longest time I wanted to have sharper features which I found attractive in other women. It's amazing how our sex determines what's attractive to us, and how we often forget that the opposite sex will love us for something that we think we need to change!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:30 AM
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OK, then I guess they're justified in being the beauty standard. I only need one man to love me for who I am, and I have that man. It'd be wrong of me to try and fit the beauty standard attractive to other men at the expense of my appearance, attractive to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:27 AM
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In the blue corner: u/MikeArrow ! I wouldn't put much stock in what the popular media claims, every time the subject comes up men overwhelmingly disdain the highly made up, plastic look and prefer a more 'natural' style. In the red corner: u/Reasonable_Style8214 ! But they get more attention from the opposite gender than you, which is the main metric by which someone's attractiveness is judged. Round number 1 - FIGHT!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:25 AM
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Oh I don't doubt that I am luckier than so many other women to have good features and to have a mum who helped me discover and highlight them. But it's kinda hard to "casually fit by existing" the BBL standard or the "Insta influencer" standard - one requires literal plastic surgery, other about an hour at the vanity just to get that contouring right. Those are the beauty standards I don't fit into. Sorry for being unclear about that!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 11:21 AM
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Oh, my phrasing might've been unclear, here's the full story. I never wore makeup until my very late 20s. From my very late 20s on, I'd wear makeup maybe once or twice a month, if I feel like adding some bling bling to my eyes and lips. I forgo foundation, contouring, blush and such. Would've done it more often (maybe once or twice a week) if I wasn't lazy about it. I love myself without makeup, my husband loves me without makeup, but sometimes it's fun to have shimmery pink eyelids!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:10 AM
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I did when I used to be a teen, but I have a great mum who taught me to love myself the way I am, who helped me see my own unique features other women would go under the knife to have. My husband loves me the way I am, and I get a good share of attention from other guys, and I more often than not am too lazy to put any makeup on! Not to mention that all these women that the popular media claims to be attractive (Bella Hadid, Kim Kardashian etc), I personally never found them attractive. So yeah,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:31 AM
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Sometimes we have to be for the sake of our own safety. Sorry for your struggles in dating, friend. Remember your worth, you deserve to be respected by your woman, so make sure that a rude, disrespectful woman has zero prospects of being with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:45 AM
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Even most women who never had casual sex wouldn’t agree to procreation only sex in their marriage. This is a very unusual dealbreaker, so best of luck to the man who has it - he’s gonna need that luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:03 PM
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Woo I can cross telegony (point #5) off my PPD n-count discussion bingo card! My mum wasn't a virgin when she met my dad, yet I look much more like him than her. How does telegony explain that? Active research on this theory goes as far back as the 19th century: if it had a shred of viability, it would make its way to commercial application. Imagine having a cow farm and having a possibility of having world class calves by having some world class ox taking those cows' virginity! And after that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:39 PM
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Yall have a lot of free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:29 PM
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Why tf would he be a dbag for wanting sex in a commited relationship? Bruh So you're saying that even if a girl is not feeling comfortable to have sex yet but her boyfriend wants it (even if they committed to each other only a week ago), his comfort prevails over hers?.. Don't think that we will be able to have a respectful discussion, especially since you resort to profanity, which I cannot appreciate. Good day, and God bless!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:44 AM
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Why did you put regret in quotation marks?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:38 AM
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Yall sound like a good match. Aw thank you! We do have our points of friction, but we work through them :) Him being a virgin didnt make you question or second guess anything? Nah, not at all, I saw him as just a man who hadn't had sex yet, we all start there lol. He was also a Christian and helped me become one too, so we waited for sex until marriage. But even the secular part of my mind sees being a virgin as a red flag only if it's combined with extreme negative views on women. I am one now …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:23 AM
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Unless you're raped this excuse doesn't work. You are the gender with the pregnancy risk and a comparatively lower libido. So you SHOULD know better So you believe that every consent every woman ever gave to a man was fully informed? Regardless of the brain still developing until you're 25 or not, the sheer lack of life experience can drive women to make wrong decisions that feel right at the moment. Yes, we have lower libido, but if a young girl is told by her boyfriend that if she doesn't slee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:45 PM
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Yeah I hear you on that. I'm not from the Western culture, that's why I kinda default to "it's rare for a woman to like casual sex". Thank you for clarifying your preference! As for my job analogy, I agree that it's not the most accurate one; I just tried to come up with something most women value in a potential husband, which is an ability to hold a job and provide. Of course life happens and they may get gap years for whatever reason, and it wouldn't be fair of a woman to assume of a man that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:30 PM
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Hopefully unintentional, but that's a weird phrasing of the question - nothing "made me" pick him, I picked him voluntarily and on my own free will. Why did I pick him? Because he charmed me with his sense of humour, with how his friends liked him, and with how when the opposite clique went on at him for calling him a "simp" when he showed me affection, he stuck by me while he could throw me under the bus to score bro points.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:21 PM
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Plenty of ex-addicts get themselves clean, get their life together and find love - I know two personally. Plenty of guys did the stupid during their college years, but wisened up since and found love. That’s how real life is!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:55 PM
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I'm just an isolated case, but I married a virgin man while not being a virgin myself, and he's lovely 🥰 in all fairness, we both are inexperienced in this marriage thing, and we are learning together!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:54 AM
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Not speaking for all girls, but I personally have an issue with the zero tolerance attitude. If she is non-apologetic and very openly talks about it as her preferred type of Saturday night fun, you are fully justified with not wanting her for an LTR. But if a girl had casual sex once or twice at the low point of her life, deeply regrets it and remains celibate until her next serious relationship, that still puts her in the "had casual sex, never marry" category with you guys. It's like women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:46 AM
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I mean, unhealthy attitude towards sex is kind of a mental problem IMO. It being widely accepted and not as debilitating as severe OCD doesn't make it any less harmful. As Jiddu Krishnamurti said, "It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:22 AM
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Haha so true! They justify that as they “cannot find a woman worth marrying, so why even bother”. To them, a woman worth marrying is the one that meets all of their preferences (however contradictory), which is impossible - so yeah, no woman is ever worthy of them. Best part is when they seethe about (to put it in immortal words of /u/Lift_and_Lurk) some dude pulling the girl they thought they were too good for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:15 AM
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Wow, you’re quite generous with the age-10 count! That’s, like, 8 partners at 18. Mine is (age-18)/2, rounded up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:14 AM
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Oh absolutely. To want a woman who had less than 10 partners by 25 is to have a pool of about 87% of women to pick from. Truly promiscuous women are outliers, and there is probably a dire reason for that promiscuity (untreated past trauma, untreated BPD etc.), so you are justified in not wanting to have that in your relationship. Source for the numbers: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5795598/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:26 AM
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Very good point! Guys who want virgins the most are also the ones with the least experience with women/people. (No, watching the Whatever podcast doesn’t count as experience.) Truly successful men (and women) have much more practical knowledge about what makes a woman (or a man) worthwhile for marriage - they got that knowledge by spending time with other successful people and their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:04 AM
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Just a quick reminder to all my non-virgin gals that “no hymen no diamond” men are quite numerous here, but very scarce IRL. Your worth to any man is defined by far more than your n-count. Not to mention that when a man is in love with you, he is in love with everything that defines you - including your past and what you made out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:17 AM
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I think men who decide that they want a "traditional" woman either got burnt out with wrong types of women they used to chase, or, what's more likely the case, watched way too much content where the modern woman is pitted against a traditional woman, and both women are strawmanned to unreal levels. Thus, they conclude the modern woman is the worst thing that can happen to a man - she is "run through", judgemental, argumentative, and overall never happy, where the trad woman is none of these thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:28 PM
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I'm talking about the hypothetical country, not US of A. Besides, many countries do not have technology that US of A has.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:58 PM
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That's a good point, the military doesn't just need people, it needs qualified people. I'm in environmental science, my colleague is getting a drone operator certification, and that's for a civil drone, imagine training for a drone that can literally take a life, permanently. So, does this country, that doesn't have enough qualified, willing people, deserve to be conquered?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:47 PM
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no more draft. At all. About this… in a very simplified scenario, let’s say a country without draft becomes involved in a war, and not enough citizens volunteer for military service to fight off the enemy. Can we claim that this country deserves to be conquered?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:17 PM
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Nah, but I want to be sympathetic to people who struggle with dating, and it’s kinda hard to do when it turns out that they’re not that innocent themselves and see nothing wrong with their own nefarious motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:48 PM
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We wouldn’t complain, but the very same guys who justify lying to a woman to have sex with her are the ones who believe themselves to be too good for an LTR/marriage with a “high” count woman. Like, your very own bros created many of those “high” counts!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:49 PM
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Yeah, and I wear skirts and dresses and fake furs and glittery stuff, enjoy plushies, and do my nails 💅 my husband has no objections :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:54 PM
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You still have the rest of your 30s, and the rest of your life, to spend on him! Maintain your health and fitness, style yourself, love yourself, and the right man will feel lucky to have you, and you will feel lucky to have him :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:36 AM
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I’m going through my “girly girl” phase because I didn’t have that opportunity in my childhood. I can’t endorse any type of sin for either men or women, but otherwise, whatever you missed out on in your earlier years, go for it if that brings you happiness!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:21 AM
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That’s a very simplistic view. Sure, there are Christians who use the label to bag a Godly, humble, generous partner, all while maintaining the secular lifestyle and ideals, but God sees everything. If you’re a true Christian, truly fear God, truly believe that the Bible teaches the right things and you are to follow them - this shows in your conduct, and other true Christians are more than happy to accept you, including as a spouse for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:08 AM
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I’m in the US, but originally from Eastern Europe - hope it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:57 AM
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As a fellow Christian, I observe smth different. Plethora of virgins don’t get picked because Christian guys cannot keep up with their (pretty worldly) expectations. On the flip side, plenty of ex-secular easygoing girls who fornicated in the past have no trouble pairing up with Christian lads.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:28 PM
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“Woman bad, man poor victim.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:13 AM
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In other words, women are responsible for men’s woes, what else is new lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:11 AM
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That’s a lot of words for “blame women for less marriages”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:00 PM
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From the responses I see here, I’d be more concerned with the [screen time:facing the real world] ratio. It seems that a lot of lads have got their “dating expertise” from the manosphere part of the Internet, and thus assign qualities to women before even getting to know their stories. We all can do better, cmon gang.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:42 AM
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Yeah I don’t think the former leads to the latter. I’d argue sexlessness happens from sedation by our phones. I learned to put the phone down when my husband pulls me in, even if I’m in the middle of something in a game - his happiness matters more than app points.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:36 AM
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Look at the character, not at arbitrary stats. Life is not a video game, we humans are very complex and use many more metrics than just quantitative ones. Despite what they say, I think many lads here would prefer to partner up with a woman with a count of 5 who is a proactive partner in the relationship, than with a virgin who has zero interest in making her man’s life better and sees herself as the Virgin Prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:31 AM
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especially if they already know they’ll never date your type so they need not be worried about scaring you away
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:18 AM
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Eh, their friends will come back to them once their grown children are no longer around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:03 PM
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Wait, are you bashing women for wanting to get married because it’s antiquated, and then bashing women for getting educated and not wanting to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:16 AM
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I’m 5’6, but thank you for standing up for us girls over 5’4, good sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:28 PM
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Then how come that monks, who are celibate, are doing quite well without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:18 AM
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Not sure I understand. Your friendships were strained by you letting your friends talk to you about something you don’t see as an issue but they do? Besides, if you’re talking about guy friends, it might be different for guys and girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:49 PM
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Regards :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:16 AM
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Is sarcasm the logical response logical men are known for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:15 AM
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Ah gotcha. Thoughts on Kim K and the crew?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:28 AM
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I think you vastly overestimate the amount of "networking" that guys do. My brother literally got a job through networking twice, of which one time was in another country. His networking system? Simulator gamers! Me on the other hand, always through official channels (interviews and exams).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:51 AM
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What’s lack of baggage? If she had baggage but dropped it in therapy, is she good to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:19 AM
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What’s lack of baggage? If she had baggage but dropped it in therapy, is she good to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:19 AM
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As that wife, lemme tell you that building marriage on a vibe alone is quite risky for when routine and life challenges come around…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:14 AM
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Well, these men are in luck, people who are irritated by everything are super rare and super noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:54 AM
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In other words, she needs to see things the same way a man does and not be irritated by anything those silly women are. You’re either gay or asking for a “cool girl”, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:49 AM
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Do you have an example of a famous woman who “does something” for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:05 PM
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Seems to be a popular PoV around here. I got into an argument with another guy the other day, who claimed that men’s deception towards women is only reserved towards high count women. I pointed out that if a low count girl rose as an opportunity, they wouldn’t exactly turn her down just because they want to preserve her low count. His response? “Yes, it’s the low count woman’s fault for giving the wrong guy a chance.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:17 PM
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Word, there’s that tradwife influencer on TikTok who was a literal OnlyFans model, and she’s doing alright. Your past defines you in the present only as much as you let it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:32 AM
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brb changing my past choices
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:52 PM
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You lads keep talking about wanting your girl to “be nice” to you. Could you help me out and define being nice? I cannot imagine a man putting up with a woman who is nasty to him, nor a woman who keeps going back to the man whom she is so repulsed by she can’t help being nasty to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:35 PM
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Well yeah, if you don’t put effort in yourself, don’t expect a woman to put effort for you. “Settling for a few years” usually means “giving him a chance for a few years, observing that he gets comfortable and does not put effort, and ending the marriage based on that observation”. No woman wants the “divorcee” status; with some exceptions, we all marry our men with a desire to make it work. Divorce happens when everything else failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:19 PM
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Because virginity itself has jack to do with the happiness and fulfilment a man can find in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:05 AM
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Ah yeah, “how dare those women make a personal choice that intervenes with my ability to have sex with them on my terms”. If you’re of low opinion of these women, swipe left. I’m sure they’ll survive not being asked out by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 10:09 PM
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Will we care about ‘value of the womb’ once we have articula wombs? Depends on how quality they are. We have artificial insemenation these days, but it still doesn’t beat the natural method. Not to mention the price… However, the badge of honour that comes with having a woman choosing to love you on her own free will and not because she was programmed to find you irresistible - that probably will never go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:12 AM
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There is so much more to having a human girlfriend than sex and companionship. It's another human being, with her own life experience and character, making a manifest to you and the world that you are worthy of a lifelong commitment by another complex human being. It's knowing that this other human, who possesses a sought after womb, chose you to eventually populate that womb with your seed and grow a mini-you in there - your genes are of value. There is no honour in having a girlfrielnd who doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:30 AM
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Oh it is. Numerous parent complaints of teachers who dared to wear a skirt above the knee or a t-shirt with a neckline deeper than collarbones. Not at school, they just run into the teacher at the grocery store or smth! Like that story of the teacher who posted a vacation photo on her Instagram where she wears the bikini at the beach. Teachers are absolutely judged for being only human.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:35 PM
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Not a good analogy then... anorexia affects like less than 1% of women, of whom an even smaller percentage have it happen to them for the sake of attaining a body "attractive to men".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:16 PM
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Okay, well, if we've agreed that sex is that easy for women to get, the OP must be about relationships. So we're talking about relationships. Which, as you stated, men have standards for women to get to. And by "I would take any girl I can get it up for", I mean that she needs to be attractive in the first place for a guy to even consider her as an opposite sex species and a potential mate. I've hung out enough on Christian subreddits where men lament lack of nice, chaste women to date, but you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:12 PM
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There are more reasons than that to not cheating. I was talking about the case when a woman is single, like the woman in the top comment was when she met them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:04 AM
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Nope. I love my husband, we are one before the Lord, this bond is not to be put asunder that easily. I would be tempted to, possibly, but as a Christian, we are to flee the sin, and I’d like to think that with God’s help, I’ll be strong enough to resist the temptation. If we’re talking perfection, probably about 70%. The remaining ones either fear God or are devoted to their ride or die strongly enough to resist that temptation without God backing it up. Same as 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:42 AM
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Well yeah, sex with your idol kinda downgrades him to “only human”, and I know I wouldn’t want to do such a disservice to his influence in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:32 AM
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Hold up, aren’t you lads collectively going off at women for saying this same thing and arguing that (non-verbatim) “[you] have standards, and claims like this are feminist propaganda meant to portray men as brainless horndogs”?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:25 AM
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Dude. I’m a woman and am yet to meet a single woman who does this! And something tells me that I spend much more time in women circles than you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:20 PM
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You're telling me that 30 percent of men would jump at the chance with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:03 PM
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I'd argue that when men say "I would take any girl", they in fact mean "I would take any girl I can get it up for", and they don't even see unattractive women as women, but as some confusing third-gender human beings, thus those women aren't even included in their consideration pool. Guys who have absolutely, positively, zero standards and would take an obese single mom with HIV are so rare, we can count them as non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:29 AM
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I mean, yeah. Status and glamour is attractive, and drama is exciting lol. But I'm a Christian, and we are called to flee the sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:24 AM
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Yeah I know. It’s just one more argument to make women into the scapegoat: “women are only hired for being women and are the reason I cannot land a 6 figure job and be attractive to them”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:26 PM
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When women are prioritized in hiring decisions over men in the name of "diversifying the workplace".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:54 PM
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I mean, yeah? It was said several times over that when it comes to winning a woman over, men compete not with other men but with what she has here and now. High value man is better than singledom, but singledom is better than low value man. For the record, in my opinion, men have the same approach! It's just that the standards are lower, they are much closer to "sex is better than no sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:50 PM
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Impressive :) sorry to hear that, hopefully you're doing better now! 6k a month is still really good, especially if it's a tradeoff for lowering your job stress!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:34 PM
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I'd pick #1, had I still been a secular dramatic wannabe diva (which I used to be). However, since I found Christ... #2 it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:22 PM
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Because it's having been with women who, due to the nature of their profession, have been with many men. Since women are 8 times more likely to get an STD from an infected partner than men, there is a very high likelihood that he has been with an infected woman, and one can only hope that he was wise enough to only have protected sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:21 PM
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I'll have to join the "none" club. However, if I had to choose at gunpoint... 2 sounds like the best option for me. I'd be looking not just for a long-term relationship, but marriage, and #2 sounds like the most family-oriented one out of the bunch, as well as the closest to having Christian values (big deal for me as a Christian). Plus, quality time is my primary love language, and outdoor adventures together is totally my vibe! The escorts thing is concerning, but hopefully he used protection,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:56 PM
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Did you legit bring home 12k a month and own 3 real estate properties?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:38 PM
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Easy. It was proven that men’s preferred financial contribution from a woman is 40% (it’s easy to find, I’m on mobile and don’t like pasting raw URLs). That way, he is technically still the “main provider”, but has the good share of the financial responsibility lifted off of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:42 AM
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Grizzlies also prefer to avoid humans. And I know about polar bears, but the question is about the forest, not the Arctic ice sheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:51 AM
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Oh okay, found it. Well, in all fairness, bears are stronger yeah, but also dumb as rocks: appear bigger, make lots of noise, and you'll scare the sucker away. That is, if the sucker will even approach you: they are generally wary of humans. Humans are much more sophisticated in both their approach and their intentions, so I would rather be stuck in the woods with a bear, whom I know what to expect of, than an absolute human stranger (man or woman) whose intentions are total mystery to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:25 PM
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Well, we're talking being stuck in a forest, not Arctic ice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:21 PM
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Asking men. With those men also answering the question for women: “I’d pick a man, but of course women pick a bear, with their brain rotten by feminism”. Not exactly a trustworthy case study.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:08 PM
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You sound like a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:05 PM
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PPD women and TkTok women are very different, good sir. This question was never asked on PPD, so there are no answers to "have changed".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:17 PM
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People who make their partner’s life worse do not deserve to be in a relationship. Just having a mental illness does not automatically disqualify you from having a relationship: what does is using it as an excuse to mistreat your partner. Take a trip to /r/BPDlovedones or /r/mypartneristrans, and let me know if those partners deserve to be in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:08 PM
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There is a third option: to find a way to make their condition manageable and live a fulfilling life. This option takes legit self-reflection, humility, work and dedication, however, so I can see why so many troubled people do not even consider it and stick to the “the world owes me” mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:37 AM
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Understood, I'm happy to agree to disagree. Btw, what do they say about unicorns? I tried to search for "the saying about unicorns", but only get the "live, laugh, love" types of quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:16 PM
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My husband is the leader of the family, as per the Bible. I propose the solutions to the problems that we face, but he is the one who has the final say, and I find peace in submitting to him and knowing that even when I disagree, the Lord is in control. I would take the lead, but it's the role God gave to the husband and not me, and I accept it. My role is of the helper, for it's not good for a man to face the world alone. As for the dates, I tell him where I'd love to go, but since he is a very…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:55 PM
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I'm a breadwinner in our marriage while he's finding his footing. I also cook and clean. I don't complain: I'm pointing out that we need to work for good things in life, that they don't just fall on our lap because we're that good of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:27 PM
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Excuse me, good sir, but thousands of dollars per night? If a man spends that much to impress a woman, he's a dud, and it's no wonder that he would end up with a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:26 PM
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OK, well, OP specified that those things are happening within the 1st year of the relationship, so not too late to bail. Why drag on the relationship you’re unhappy with?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:16 PM
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Biology is understood: it’s men’s claim that women owe them sex (because suicide rates or whatever) that we have a problem with. They want something good in life? They need to work for it! We don't complain that we need to earn income to buy food and pay rent, yet sex is expected to be given away just so a man does not neck himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:03 PM
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How are you affected by society when you choose to opt out of dating and go your own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:56 PM
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It's not about the socioeconomic status, but more about her passion for knowledge and finer things in life, and her ability to conduct herself in public. A ghetto girl who is timid, polite and respectful, and knows how to dress up with class, absolutely deserves a dinner in a Michelin star-restaurant and a Broadway play. An affluent girl who is loud, obnoxious and entitled and believes that a denim miniskirt is a fitting attire for an uptown establishment deserves a Red Lobster dinner at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 09:05 PM
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I mean, from the behaviour you observe on this sub, do you genuinely suppose most men here could handle a classy woman, even their age? A ghetto hoodrat is just a better cultural fit for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:45 PM
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Late to the party, but. I was mid 20s a few years ago, and was approached by a number of men 40+. Without failure, every single one of them attempted to teach me about life and to manipulate the way I think, like claiming that their unpleasant behaviour towards me was justified, but I need to change the way I act towards them. Guilt tripping and gaslighting was off the charts. With men around my age, I felt the peer-to-peer dynamic; with men 15+ years older, it was more of a chief-subordinate on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:28 PM
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Christians are generally taught to only date other Christians, so only go to church if you’re willing to embrace the Biblical values at the very least, and preferably accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. Otherwise, you’ll be seen as wanting to take advantage of your partner’s religious values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:13 PM
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STEM. Earth/environmental sciences, and I also have a BSc and a MS in mathematics and computer science. I am currently in the PhD program, but also considering just taking the second Master’s and going into the industry as a GIS specialist or environmental consultant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:01 PM
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No ring, no vacation expenses coverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:15 PM
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Oh dear, ain't that right. As a woman who's been single throughout my mid-late 20s, I got used to never settle for what I have in my current job and always shoot higher. However, I'm married now and we consider kids in the future, so I recognize that I would have to let it all go if kids come along. Not to mention that my employability is gonna take a nosedive...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:06 PM
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Yup, pretty much all this. To build up on your point: my observation is that men who are prone to lean redpill are also terrified of things that are outside of their direct control. That's why so many of them are risk-averse: they do not dare doing something that doesn't guarantee them the 100% outcome (okay, maybe 90%) or could make them look in less than favourable light by others, especially the opposite sex. They want to control women's attraction so that they know exactly what to do for a 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:00 PM
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“Women only want Chad, unlike us men who would be happy with plain Jane.” No wait, it’s “At least we men are honest about wanting a hottie unlike women who pretend they would love an ugly guy with a good personality.” now. “Women cannot possibly love unconditionally like men do; they only care about the man’s resources.” “Men wanting young, attractive and chaste women is just biology and women should accept that. Women wanting handsome, strong and well-off men is inflated standards, and they sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:49 PM
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Most of the society does not extrapolate TikTok videos to the entire population, because they interact with the person at hand and see that person as a whole. If you’re single and childless due to the stroke of bad luck, they can tell. If you’re single and childless due to being entitled and/or insufferable, they can also tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:14 PM
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So by preferring women with makeup, men pretty much admit that they prefer insecure women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:59 AM
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I concur. I’ve been classified as “an angel” by a number of men in the initial talking stage, but the moment I executed unfavorable behaviour, like taking too long to respond to a text, or not showing the expected reaction to what they said or did, was the moment they declared that “there’s something wrong with me”. I’m a human and want to be seen as such. Side note: all of those men were at least 10 years older than me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:26 AM
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So, you don’t feel confident in your looks and want your woman to shoulder the responsibility of seeing the good traits in yourself? You can indeed keep looking for your unicorn, or help ease that burden on your partner by working on building your positive qualities and focusing on the positives about your looks. If height is a concern, I can tell you about my 3 crushes from the past and what made up immensely for their shorter stature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:02 AM
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I mean, I agree. Gotta balance out timing and experience, that's the tough part!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:16 PM
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Many women have kids in the first marriages (successful or not), so they do not miss out on that aspect. And in their 40s, many more men are accepting of single mothers than men in their 20s, especially if kids are teenagers by then and do not demand much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:06 PM
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Precisely, only maybe 1% of 1% of men will have women of all ages throwing themselves at them no matter how old they are. The rest of the guys, well, aging won't harm their options any less than it harm women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:50 PM
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Do they tell you they're depressed, or are you the one to put that label on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:47 PM
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But there is plenty of women who do, and they all had the same attitude of "I've got time". Not all of them. Many of them were/are actively searching but things didn't work out with men they met. Some of them were married to the wrong one during their "prime". Is it their fault? And sure, some women do outright delay starting a family and then lament the missed opportunity. But should we really use people who hinge their happiness on things out of reach for them as a norm? Also, I'd rather not p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:46 PM
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Yeah you rather end up last and safe than take a risk and win soooo many women are like this but a race is still dangerous slowand safe did not guarantee your safety either. Wait, you're changing the narrative. Slow and safe is still much safer than rushing to the 1st place, especially if you do not have the experience to maneuver around your opponents. Instead, you're painting "taking the risk" as the guarantee of the win, neglecting the sheer idea of possible crash. Also, why enter the race in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:30 PM
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Plenty of women find husbands and start families at 30+. The average age of the first birth in 3021 was 27 - lower for Black and Hispanic women, higher for White and Asian women. No boats missed there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:14 PM
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Your concern is touching, but don’t worry, even those of us without husbands find happiness in other things!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:51 PM
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Define "true shot at happiness" pls. Also, intelligence takes time to acquire for many as well. Although yeah, I admit that I thought I knew better than "old folks" when I was 20. A good example are slow safe drivers. Not as good an example as you think. I'd rather come 10th but fully intact than try for the 1st and get in a fatal crash.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:30 PM
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Okay, I stand corrected. What's the boat that we miss when it's too late (whenever it is, by your definition)?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:29 PM
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What's the boat that we miss due to not marrying by 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:02 PM
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Define “dreamboat” pls
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:51 PM
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That’s precisely why it’s a good idea to accrue some life experience before getting married and not rush to settle before your “prime” is over. Young women can avoid making many bad choices… by not marrying young!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:40 PM
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Pressure to settle is a good "rule of thumb" advice for your average women, their time window for finding a partner they deem "worthy" is much shorter. Sorry, but not true. This idea that women are most likely to find the best partner at the age when they have the most options does not take into account the inexperience of the woman in choosing the guy who is right for her and not just on paper. Plenty of women who settled in their "best years", and then broke up after miserable 15-20 years of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:18 PM
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“Men are not as shallow/conniving/calculated as women” is an ongoing rhetoric on this sub. Both genders are guilty of judging ourselves by our intentions and others by their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:58 PM
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Of course not, but if all we know about the person is age, a 30 year old is much more likely to have been through things than a 20 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:52 AM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:52 PM
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I suppose OP responds to the general sentiment on the PPD sub. Just gotta switch “men” for “many men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:58 PM
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“She is mature for her age” is one of the oldest excuses in the book. Mature maybe, but wise and experienced enough to tell if a guy is right for her? Those things inevitably take time to develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:53 PM
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Allowed, I like that part. Showed into positions to achieve “equality”, that’s where it went wrong. Many women are perfectly okay with unassuming jobs!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:23 AM
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I knooow I know, just being cheeky
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:14 PM
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Buddy, they were not alphas! One was a low-tier drug dealer, consistently late on his rent and never able to hold a job. The other was a 5’1 chunky sociopath who bashed women for all his life woes. Looks wise, the first one was average, the second one was way below average. As for the BB, I’m the primary breadwinner in my marriage while my husband is working on his professional footing; he might not be a textbook alpha, but he is my alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:33 PM
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Depends: if the girl states that she’s looking for an LTR and the guy plays along for a month until she is ready to have sex with him, and then he just takes off… yeah, she was pumped and dumped by choice, but not her choice. Honestly, God was onto something when He proclaimed fornication to be a sin: we all will be better off if we wait until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:26 PM
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The brain might be developed enough, but the life experience and wisdom to properly discern potential partners and to know what you truly want is lacking. This is why most youngsters lean liberal, because “life on my terms” looks like the way to go, while older people lean conservative, because they’ve learned that rules and social norms exist for a reason. By the by, I’m down for raising the voting age to 25 as well: I voted very poorly when I was 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:21 PM
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I agree. I voted for a candidate who hated my country when I was 20, because I hated my country as well. I’m down for raising the voting age to 25, so that youngsters have some actual life experience in their country before deciding its fate!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:01 PM
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I only have my own experience, but I chose my boyfriends very poorly when I was 18-23, was making up excuses for those guys and believing that their treatment of me is just part of a relationship etc. Those guys may have had me during my “best years”, but I left them behind the moment I developed self-esteem and some experience. Both were older than me (by 9 and 5 years, respectively).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:57 PM
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Before my husband, I’d awkwardly blurt out that I like him and would be interested in getting to know him better. Never worked lol. Where are all them guys who find girls that approach them attractive 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:46 PM
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They may even feel that they are always on a clock. Precisely! When we get the so-called “princess treatment”, it feels like we need to act out this “angel fallen from the sky” role, and the moment we show any human trait, that “love” will be gone. It’s scary to have a relationship on borrowed time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:43 PM
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Not necessarily: if a guy feels connected to the other culture better than to his own, nothing wrong with looking for happiness in the right place. The problem arises when the guy wants a girl of a certain culture but acts dismissive towards the parts of that culture he doesn’t like. That kinda behaviour is blatant main character syndrome, and those guys need a lot of growing up before they’re worthy of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:42 AM
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I like this. If you are unfortunate enough to have your previous relationship end, let the next guy have a better you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:14 AM
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Okay, don’t get with these women. Where’s the problem at?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:05 AM
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There’s a pretty consistent pattern of less desirable men mistreating their women when they get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:11 PM
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That wall only stops men who want bio children. Men who have raised their own, or don’t care for bio children, are also out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 04:13 AM
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How nice of you to increase their number by 1 before letting them know how you truly feel. What’s the topic of this discussion again, how deceiving women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:45 PM
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Once you sleep with enough women, you lose most of the "women are wonderful" effect. So you’re saying that… many sex partners diminish a man’s ability to appreciate his partner? I thought it’s only women who “lose their ability to pair bond”!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:13 PM
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Bleak view on women in RP: They are too selfish. Bleak view on men in RP: They are too selfless. A fairly weighted analysis indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:06 PM
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Let us know how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:54 PM
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So, who is the homebreaker in my example? Sure, we can replace “cheated” with “refused to listen to her needs” or “refused to go to couple’s counselling”, to fit the common reasons for divorce better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:45 PM
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It’s adorable how many men are ready to work on a relationship after the woman files for divorce, but not before. Almost like you don’t take us seriously until we get the government involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:52 PM
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If a man cheated and a woman filed for a divorce because of it, who is the homebreaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:46 PM
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The majority of people who are pushing the single mother idea are women, so I find it safe to presume that your post is directed at the fairer gender. That’s cool, that is indeed our shortcoming. Let’s enter a hypothetical scenario where all women who thought that way saw your post and collectively decided that no matter what, they aren’t letting the single-parent household happen, ever. … is the problem solved, now? What about the aforementioned fathers those children will need? Two parents are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 09:00 AM
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What was the most common reason for you to break up with those girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:35 AM
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It's interesting how your entire reply hinges on the idea that men are 100% reliable in a relationship. I can agree that we do want to be with a man who would contribute to our life positively, but you know what else we want? To know that we also contribute to his life positively. To know that there's something about us that makes him choose us over any other woman every single time. To know that we also have worth for him. The situation you glorify so much, where a woman is obsessed with a man,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:14 AM
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Ah, the classic “ignore the stats that are in favour of women because women lie, but you can totally trust the stats in favour of men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:34 PM
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A man above gave a perfectly reasonable explanation why it’s better for a man if a man has the upper hand and the leverage in the relationship. You guys are telling on yourselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:31 PM
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Sounds like you’d be better off dating within your class, where your partner would be able to relate to your background, since neither you can relate to the wagie class, nor we can relate to you. It’s just a part of life, none of us are romantically compatible with everybody else!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:00 AM
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Exactly! Our salvation is in the spirit of gratitude!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:37 AM
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In my own experience, it works out best if both the man and the woman see their partner as the prize they are lucky to have. Men and women appreciate different things in each other, but the spirit of gratitude is what makes us want to be our best selves for our partners!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:32 AM
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Confidence: I see it as the most important trait, because a man without it is stuck always having to prove something to other people and to himself, which results in total lack of integrity and total reliance on the opinions of other people. When a man is secure in his own skin, then he walks through life with a firm step, and that’s the kind of man I can trust with my life. Kindness: It goes hand in hand with confidence, but I’m ranking it second because it’s impossible without the former. A co…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:07 AM
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I married the guy who was nowhere near my prior expectations in looks, money and status - but our chemistry is amazing, he is my favourite company, and every single day he makes me feel like the luckiest girl alive just by how much effort he puts into making me happy. God sent me not the husband I wanted, but the husband I needed!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:56 AM
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I think it depends on how a woman acts, whether she’s confident around a man or self-conscious, whether she’s more aware about her perks or her shortcomings. And other similar factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:12 AM
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Ad hominem, boring. I'm saying that if one hinges one's happiness on something outside of one's realm of control, then this individual cannot exactly claim that this something is to blame for his/her unhappiness. If I hinge my happiness on Elon Musk giving me 10% of his net worth, yes I can claim that Elon Musk is to blame for my unhappiness - but I've done it to myself by hinging my happiness on his choices on what he does with his finances! No there isn't. Just like there isn't much more to li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:02 PM
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If you fall apart because the women don’t desire you, that’s a you problem. There’s much more to life than being desired by women. Also “enslaved”? Whose property are you? Unless you’re working in a sweatshop in a third world country, you may want to double-check the definition of “slavery”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:19 AM
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OK, and? There’s much more to life than being desired by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:41 AM
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Yeah I get what you're saying. I'm in academia, and you really need to grind here to get any close to 6 figures - but it's prestigious! Blue collars need an image fix, they deserve it more than we do in our ivory towers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:27 PM
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I'll be honest: I tried to come up with an example and every attempt includes a guy no girl in her right mind and good self-confidence would ever want to date. But here, it'd be something like: "So, have you engaged in casual sex?" "Yeah" "What was the reason for it?" "[states the reason]" "There are plenty of girls who have been in your situation, and they managed it in a way other than casual sex" - the last one is pretty much a statement of "points deduced, buttercup".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:25 PM
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I like this take, makes sense. They would rather us fight with each other rather than ask questions about why does the minimum wage not keep up with inflation, why do we send so much taxpayer money to fund foreign troops, why is the border open wide… if we blame our problems on each other, the big suits are blameless!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:47 PM
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Are you upper middle class or live in an expensive city? It is kinda understood that in your circles, women do have an expectation of a prestigious job in a man, but forgive me for saying that, those circles are pretty shallow. I’m more middle class, but have interacted with working class: here, as long as the man is hard working and is dedicated to providing for his family, every honest trade is honoured. Taking social strata into account is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:36 PM
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You really need to be a special brand of unattractive to be rejected by all 100 women. And if it does happen, hey, treat it as a call to some self-reflection?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:26 PM
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I actually think ballroom dancing is a great hobby to meet women! Or any other partnered dancing. Even if a genuine interest in the hobby is lacking, a guy who is willing to learn to hold his dance partner a proper way is very attractive!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:24 PM
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It’s important because instead of addressing the issue in his existing relationship, the man chooses the noble route of throwing it away altogether. What happened to “in sickness and in health?”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:12 PM
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“Tell us why we should hire you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:55 AM
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As a Christian: Men, avoid avoid avoid women who are interested in sex before marriage. They are possessed by the spirit of Jezebel and their vaggies have teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:15 AM
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Q: What is your favourite meal? Gold_Supermarket1956: Gee, women are so insufferable nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:10 AM
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You too! ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:05 PM
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Idk your scenario sounds as realistic as the “government-mandated girlfriend” one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:50 PM
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I think you misunderstood my comment. I was saying that unreasonable women may make up the majority of women on TikTok or Reddit, but they are a minority IRL. Not that unreasonable women on the Internet are totally reasonable IRL. That's what we (or at least I) mean by the Internet not reflecting RL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:35 PM
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Idk I'd be pretty motivated to learn about fixing every single appliance at home if the alternative is giving up bodily autonomy. Especially if it opens up the demand for handywomen, hired by other women who aren't as good with electronics but don't want to spread the legs to a stranger for their toaster to be fixed and would rather just hire someone who accepts good old cash instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:22 PM
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But when we try to vet, we get a feedback like “dating you feels like a job interview, why can’t we just have fun and enjoy each other’s company, that’s why you can’t compete with early 20-somethings”. How are we supposed to figure out which ones of you lot are the abusive ones when we’re not allowed to be serious about anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:16 PM
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When we say Internet isn’t a reflection of RL, we mean that not all women are hoes with an OnlyFans page, n-count in double digits and unreasonably inflated standards. We’re not saying that women who are like that in the Internet are actually demure sweethearts IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:06 PM
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Now if all men suddenly started saying I'm not going to fix your car or your toilet unless you fuck me, now we're getting somewhere. BOOM influx in female car mechanics and plumbers. Women worked in factories during WWII; when there’s a will, there’s a way!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:32 PM
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lol, 90% of this sub is men going off at women. Yet the moment women bring up something, men are like: ah typical, women taking no accountability and blaming it all on men. Let us express our experiences too, you’re not the only ones struggling!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 06:11 PM
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First, thank you so much for the respectful response, something this subreddit could use so much more of! I will admit, I didn't look past the Wiki definition, assuming that it's sufficiently peer-reviewed to be taken at face value. I did another search, and yeah, I can see that the dictionary definition defines hypergamy purely in terms of the material gain. I stand corrected there. However, hopefully you agree that stopping the discussion at "women are hypergamous and men are hypogamous" leave…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:46 PM
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What is virtue signaling?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:41 PM
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Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "dating up" or "marrying up") is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status or sexual capital than themselves. He provide higher social status, she provides higher sexual capital. Both are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:28 PM
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I’ll pray for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:30 AM
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Dude, the sheer tone of your comment makes me dubious about your contribution being so that much greater than hers. You listed things than you did and things that she didn't do, to begin with. This is quite a disingenuous move, which puts you in a positive light and her in the negative light from the get go. I can't help but wonder if her "non-stop complaining" was at least in part because her boyfriend didn't want to hear her side as this would require self-reflection, so he simply chalked it u…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:03 AM
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Do you really want to pull the kind of men that come to this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:06 PM
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I came here as purple, seeing valid point from both blues and reds, and wanting to observe how both sides would argue their points. This place has me shifting more towards blue pill. The reason? When I try to provide a nuanced take, red pills consistently reinterpret it as me excusing women and bashing men. Or reinterpret it as me saying something else, something more unreasonable than I actually said, and dismiss it on that basis. Also, it is clear from many replies that instead of understandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:02 PM
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Precisely what I thought when I read this post. My uncle had his only son when he was 48; he died at the age of 64 (COVID), leaving the 16 year old boy behind. I wouldn’t wish this on anybody. Yes, you guys can delay propagation of your genes, but delaying fatherhood is going to work against you just as much as it does against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:08 AM
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Social media. The combination of the accounts showcasing rich, exciting life rising to the top and social media being perceived as being populated by people like you and me. Both young men and women get their ideas of what is “the norm” for the opposite sex these days from those accounts, and the expectations go way up on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:51 PM
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Yup. The Walkaway Wife syndrome, it literally has a name.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:08 PM
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BUT...she "likes eating from the little ones" from my POV it's totally irrational to keep the little ones but in her world it's totally "rational" to keep them because she has a "benefit" from it. And of course you chalked up her reasoning to purely emotional: "little plates make her happy uwu". Down to keeping your "irrational" unquoted while putting her "rational" and "benefit" in quotes. As someone with a smaller desk, I'd rather eat off a smaller plate and take another trip to the kitchen fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:29 PM
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Oh please. Men are playing "3d chess" all the time too. Example: Men: "Women who are promiscuous are downright disgusting. I would rather be with a modest plain Jane than with a promiscuous smokeshow. I'm sorry not sorry that I respect myself and care more about integrity than looks." Also men: consistently ignore plain Janes because "they're just not their type" and drool over smokeshows, while lamenting that "it's impossible to find a decent woman nowadays".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:22 PM
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Right, and all of these men put insane amounts of time and effort into their appearances: diets, workout regimen, even plastic surgery if needed. Not to mention insane work hours. Sure, they might’ve gotten a leg up from their rich/influential relatives or from their genetics, but they had to apply it the right way. Chad who didn’t work hard to become Chad doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:06 AM
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As a woman, the scenario with genders reversed is outright terrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:37 PM
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Dude. Check out the Catfished channel on YouTube. Not to mention the abundance of Nigerian scammers posing as attractive women for a reason (hint: it’s not to scan women). Men fall for a promise of a fantasy all the time. Most men and women know better or catch it early, but there are enough entitled and desperate individuals on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:03 PM
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Me oh my, how the turntables! Here we had men talking about how AI girlfriends will replace women and "that'll show them", meanwhile this is happening, in a land where bachelorettes are significantly outnumbered by bachelors, no less! However, while reading this piece, same types of criticisms I have for men and porn creeped in for these women. They are engaging in a fantasy where they have to do zero work on themselves, and a perfect, zero-maintenance (save for subscription fee) boyfriend will …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:33 PM
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Does Chad exist though? I too can imagine a woman who gets royal treatment from men just for existing and putting zero effort, and be jealous of her. Thing is, no woman like that exists - those who appear to be that way put in work into themselves and into men they’re with to “earn” their treatment; we don’t see the work, but we see the results. Same with Chad: multiple redpillers report being approached by women at much higher rate after getting themselves together, so clearly Chad must be the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:08 PM
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You are part of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:29 AM
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With the world these days being engulfed in hate, it’s getting harder to distinguish a loving but honest take from “brutal honesty” many people love to dish out because it’s an opportunity to let out your own frustrations. We all need to get better at not attributing to malice anything that can have a more benign explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 11:18 AM
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I’d add one more criteria to this: does she see not having sex with you as an issue that needs to be fixed? If yes, and she’s putting in effort to mitigate it (rearranges her work-life schedule to fit intimacy in, communicates to you what would help with getting her in the mood, starts taking better care of herself etc.), I’d say she deserves another chance. If she makes it up as you being an unreasonable horndog for wanting to have sex with her and doesn’t see the need to change the situation a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:37 PM
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Of course, it’s up to him. I’d leave a guy too, if in his view, his peepee should take priority over everything else in my life, and me asking him to just give me some time is seen as me telling him that he’s worthless. We are both within our right to choose the partner who would match our view on sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:21 PM
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The guy I replied to with this anecdote literally said: There are no “outside factors” except for illness I simply contested that point specifically. Judging by your response, you seem like a reasonable guy who gets that there are all kinds of situations when sex has to be postponed. He doesn’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:12 PM
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Then we probably do not understand each other. Before my husband, I worked on a paper with my colleagues, and with the deadline in a week and the paper still not to our satisfaction, we crunched for that entire week. I would often forget to eat that week! My other colleague didn’t sleep for 36 hours straight, just editing it! As for the time with my husband, I had the exam week in mind as a very recent event, where again, we had two finals and a group project, and guess what, crunch time again. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:55 AM
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Hold up, we’re not talking about having sex when the other party wants it more - we’re talking about times when you are halfway passing out from the long day at work, or need to finish something before 23:59 today, but she is in the mood. Do you feel obligated to have sex with her right there and then, or do you hope that she understands that you first need a nap, or to finish that deadline thing? If you haven’t been in a situation like this, that just means we cannot understand each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:13 AM
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I guess all we can do is just agree to disagree here. Maybe you can find a woman who thinks the same as you do, and who am I to tell you what standards to uphold in your relationship? But in my marriage, my husband and I do on occasion come at a situation when one of us wants sex and the other is just in no position to be in the mood at the moment. We give each other time and have sex at first opportunity after!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:48 AM
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Well, I hope you find the woman who shares your point of view. I'll stick to my marriage, where my husband and I agree that sometimes marital duties cannot be executed the way we wished it to be. During the exam week, I cannot get in the mood sometimes due to stress, and I simply ask him to give me some time to revise the part I'm stressing about. After that, I'm happy and relaxed and can have much better sex with him. And hoo boy, the desire I feel for him after the last exam is over!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:58 AM
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This is the quote: She doesn't feel like having sex with you. Time to move on. I responded to the idea of moving on from the woman who doesn't feel like having sex with a man with a hypothetical scenario where her "not feeling like having sex" is due to the outside factor. The OP of this comment thread wasn't talking about "withholding" sex. Nor was my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:37 AM
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I know that guy is not alone. I'm saying that these clowns are usually called out pretty quickly, because a lot more people are capable of seeing the situation from a point of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:30 PM
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I'd say a much redder flag is a man who cannot take a break from sex for a week to let his woman finish the job she is preoccupied with. This is as selfish as they come. She will put you on a sex marathon once she's done, okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:27 PM
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His post was ambiguous. Also, I'd say both men and women are both capable of being patient and impatient when it comes to sex in relationships, not one to the greater extent than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:24 PM
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I hate how often this is the case. In most such cases, it’s not strangers and hookups, but another long-term lover. But you’re right, if there was literally zero sexual activity for months and she isn’t concerned about it at all, you may want to put on your P.I. hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:14 PM
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Good riddance!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:40 PM
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Well, this post’s rating is 0, and from the comments it seems that he’s the only one believing his black pill drivel. Fav take from him: Women have a right to reject a guy, but they need to “understand” that they’re literally committing murder every time they do. LOL. ROFL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:15 PM
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If my husband is too preoccupied with something important for the time being, he is “withholding” affection from me, but for a good reason, so I just give him space, but hinting that I’ll be happy to get affection from him again when he’s done with his thing. No big deal, I’ve got things to finish as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:05 PM
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Should a man leave a woman who had a project deadline at work and had been too tired for sex for a week? That’s also her “not feeling like having sex with you”, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:02 PM
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ROFL love, love, love this list! Very spot on! And the amount of generalising based on their anecdotal experience (real or imagined), but dismissal of women’s anecdotal experiences that disprove their black pill convictions, I can’t even 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:56 PM
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lol, this again? Okay, I’ll bite. I bring to the table the understanding that it is much better to go through life with someone you love by your side than on your own; the understanding that love and relationship does not just magically work out even with the right person; it takes work and sacrifice; the understanding that this is not like my single life, time to be selfish is over, and I need to be considerate of my partner in many of decisions that are up to me; the willingness to let my part…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:54 AM
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99% of the times i've seen in, it was a girl simply not being entitled and not being a cunt. Maybe we're on different parts of the internet, but I haven't seen anyone calling a woman like that a "pickme". I mean, I have no problem with this statement, for example: A lot of guys do not see party girls as relationship material. But I have a problem with this statement: Is there something wrong with me that I am not a party girl, unlike all the other girls? The first statement declares something ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:48 AM
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True, some women feel the need to throw other women under the bus, some women don't. We are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:34 AM
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Because when a woman tries to find common ground with men, she is called a "pickme." She has broken her feminist solidarity, she has crossed lines and is a traitor, don't you know we are at war? I think you missed the point. Women are called "pickmes" and "nlogs" not because they want to relate to men (this is an awesome thing, more women like that pls), but because they put other women down. This comes across as them seeing other women as competition and not having any positive qualities to sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:31 AM
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Precisely. We can observe this with the woke agenda being inserted left and right in popular media these days: a good story with believable characters is sacrificed in the way of “bringing home the message”. Most stories need a touch of a fairytale to encourage people not to give up and do the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:12 AM
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Oooof. No husband for Pearl, that worn out old hag. Should've gotten a husband when she was 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:41 AM
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I get it, Pearl is a catch to so many of yous, unlike us women who don't act the way she says we should! But if we can find love and marriage, why is she single though? Surely she would have a line of suitors to pick from, being so insightful on what women should be like to be picked? Would you marry her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:39 AM
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Even with many similarities, we still have a lot of differences, so even these many similarities do not make us a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:10 PM
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Most men do not really have much choice in women nor control in a relationship if it happens and end up controlled and used by women. X for doubt. Could it be that men are shooting above their league looks/status wise and either get rejected or get used by women that recognize that they hold the power over these men? I see it all the time in Christian dating communities: men lament that the only girls they can get are shallow and promiscuous, yet if you scratch the surface, turns out that the gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:52 AM
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That’s because six pack is kinda seen as a default for attraction. Come on, it looks good on any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:35 AM
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If it doesn’t hinder your life, don’t sweat it. Will the right guy just make me jump on the same bandwagon as every other straight woman? Very possible. That’s what happened to me: I didn’t care for relationships that much, thought of people who did as “sheep”, but met the right man for myself, joined the herd and cannot be happier. That happened to me in my late 20s. You time is very possibly yet to come; in the meantime, make the best out of your single life :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:55 AM
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Confidence. I think every single gal here and out there can agree that a guy who is comfortable in his own body and lifestyle and knows how to make the best out of what God blessed him with, a guy who doesn’t feel the need to prove anything to the world, a guy who is enough to himself - this kinda guy is every girl’s dream. You’d be very hard pressed to find a girl who finds those qualities unattractive in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:22 AM
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Ok who cares? Men who use porn, clearly. Because they really, really do not seem to like that the surfacing of them using porn results in a less favourable perception of them as a potential partner. Even though, when it comes to relationships, there is not a single positive quality that is associated with porn usage, but a host of negative ones. If you guys are so elated with your "freedom from women", why worry about them not wanting you for a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:27 AM
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Even on a personal scale, porn is escapism, it's literally immersing in the Matrix to avoid the reality where women are these complex creatures with their own feeling you need to take into consideration. ThatGamer707 and you both argue that by using porn, men are actually liberated from being controlled/used by women (blackpill take btw, it all depends on the girl you choose and on your definition of "being controlled/used"), but porn usage has been linked to heightened feelings of depression, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:42 PM
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Funny you say that when using porn is the epitome of engaging in a fantasy of having a woman a man can use: never rejects you, doesn't make you wait for sex, gives you her body whenever you want her to, is zero-maintenance, and is totally okay with you moving on to another woman the moment you get bored with her. And before you say "it's different from sex", your brain releases all the same chemicals during orgasm from porn as it does from a RL physical intercourse, so man's brain gets the rewar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:06 PM
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Confidence. Internalize the idea that you’ll be fine with or without her, but you’d rather have the former; that you have options, but you consciously chose to be with her and be committed to her. If she persists with the n-count question, tell her that you prefer to leave the past in the past, and the present is all that matters to you; if she is so adamant about bringing your past back, you two cannot be together. And don’t fear being dumped over this, always remember that you’ll be just fine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:49 AM
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Some women do face a significant penalty on the other side of their 30s. Generally, those are women who left their self-care up to fate and cruised on their youthful looks during their younger years, but their less than healthy lifestyle caught up to them in their 30s and beyond. Women who purposefully take good care of themselves, even though many of them do look their age, still do well at any age with respective age groups of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:37 AM
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you really can't bitch about men having a porn addiction when it's the only way majority get any sexual release When a man clearly could've made something out of himself but didn't, because he can always have Suzie from Pornhub on demand and RL women are "too much work" in comparison, oh yes, we're gonna give him a side eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:13 AM
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That’s quite a blessing, especially back in the days when the medicine was not as advanced as today! Good for your gran and your lineage :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:45 AM
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Hey, don’t underplay your mum’s achievement, 39 is still an advanced age when it comes to childrearing! Good for you and your whole family :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:44 AM
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Not forever but until you are confident that you are enough. A right girl will see it and know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:49 PM
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Agree, “financial stability” is a very relative term - unless you desire expensive everything for your kid, including a house with a separate room, you can give your kid a happy childhood on any level of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:52 PM
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Fascinating! And all 5 turned out fine? Asking because of all that talk that geriatric pregnancies result in Down syndrome kids and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:43 PM
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Ok and what am I supposed to do about that? There's 100+ replies. You can always edit your post. There’s no shame in correcting yourself. Simply change the phrasing to something like “ about 30% of women experience a sharp decline in fertility at 30 years old” (even that is inaccurate, but at least not to a degree of “30% of women are infertile when they turn 30”).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:40 PM
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As long as you're clear about your intention to have sex with no strings attached with her, that's fair. However, even though lads seem to pride themselves in being direct and honest, unlike those pesky women creatures who cannot stop lying and never know what they want, we keep hearing from lads themselves that they have no trouble pretending to commit to a woman only to ditch her as soon as she sleeps with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:40 AM
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why would a guy, or anybody for that matter, get into a relationship with the premeditated notion to hold something over their partners head? One word: power. Also, it might not be predetermined, but in the heat of the moment, it is very tempting to take advantage of your partner's past in order to turn the situation in your favour. Also, "saving a hoe" is a thing among guys: yes, they might do it for love, but it's also a power play to many of them. maybe im just naive but i assume people get i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:26 AM
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Because many women want kids, kids benefit from having a dad around, and marrying the man increases the chance that the man will stick around when kids get in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:29 AM
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Wait what? So when a guy says he’s okay with a girl’s past, she is supposed to read his mind and find out that he actually isn’t? Don’t you lads pride yourselves in being straightforward and not playing games?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:30 PM
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You might be onto something. I’m sure a good bunch of guys choose to date women with “shortcomings” like that just so they can hold those over a woman’s head the moment she “steps out of line”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:26 PM
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He might’ve been high value before having any baby mamas or when he only had one baby mama, but each subsequent baby mama lowers his value to any self-respecting woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:28 PM
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I have often told people on this sub that if they’ve starved for attention from pretty girls they should go to Bible study and express some interest in finding Jesus. It might be annoying but you’ll find a lot of people who will give you their number and not ghost you. Uhhh may I invite you to take a trip to /r/christiandating and peruse some threads over there. Jesus followers oftentimes are even tougher to date than seculars. Christians girls have even higher standards for men because first, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:54 AM
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Very valid take. A woman who bothered to learn English to fluency within the confines of her own country is most likely the woman who learned it with a purpose of going international, for one reason or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:40 AM
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Before meeting my husband, I was convinced that no man would marry me ever, and that was the plan for my single parenthood. Get knocked up by a genetically fit man, find another single parent, become roommates with him or her and raise our children together. Even if it’s a man, there’s no need for intimacy or asset sharing, if he or she finds a long-term partner and moves out, I’d just put up a classified ad for another roommate with a kid. However, am married now, so maybe another woman can put…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:08 AM
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Guilty 😅 but yeah, I’m the 00s kid, I need a refuge from all the ongoing “refinement” of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:12 AM
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what other choice do I have 😇 Trust in God’s timing! 🙏 Seriously though, I feel your pain. Looking for a fellow follower of Christ already narrows your options significantly, for there are so much less believers than ever, and even among believers, so many self-proclaimed Christians do not even bother checking their morals with the Bible. If there are additional dealbreakers, you’re pretty much left waiting for the divine intervention to bring you the right spouse. Praying for your search of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:54 AM
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Boo you whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:30 AM
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Thank you for inquiring 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:41 AM
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My profile pic was my photo, and I sent him selfies, so he saw what I looked like right away. I got to see him a couple months after we got exclusive, and at that point I was just so in love with his character that I was happy with everything that came with it. We met in person a year later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 10:23 AM
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That entire server was pretty much just people trolling each other, so when he slid into my DMs (it was about a certain lolcow making rounds on the server), I didn’t take it seriously, but entertained it for the sake of introducing some more lore to the server lol. I did catch feelings for him, he was (still is) my favourite company and his conduct made me confident in him, but I played it cool and kept my heart guarded, because I didn’t know how serious he was about it. After one very personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:10 AM
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If I may stretch past 12 months to past 24… I met my now husband in a gaming, politically incorrect-leaning Discord server. We both are in our late 20s/early 30s, and I’m 1.5 years older than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:11 AM
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Whose genes did you inherit?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:41 PM
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Why do you automatically assume she expects the worst reason? Caring for a special needs relative or working a highly classified job for all of your adult years also may be reasons for not having had dated, but those are noble reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:36 AM
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These days? All things equal, a black individual gets away with much more than a white individual, thanks to many people’s fear of being labelled “racist” if they hold a black individual accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:39 AM
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That’s good to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:46 PM
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Be the change you want to see! Get a math or a CS or an engineering degree!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:22 AM
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Your idea sounds lovely on paper. However, as humans, we always gravitate towards the path of least resistance - the less effort we put into getting the reward, the better. That’s why so many young men choose to sedate themselves by porn rather than working on making something out of themselves and attracting real women through becoming their best selves - the reward (sexual gratification) is out there, why not just come and take it? Same with women: so many of them choose to sell their youth an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:15 AM
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Now this one sounds traumatized by life. Hope she gets therapy and help she needed all her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:59 AM
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… but under God, marriage is for life, right? Thus, there’s more to Christian marriage than shagging and procreating, which are very worldly reasons to get married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:27 AM
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I wish that study was brought up much more in modern conversations. The shortage of meaningful roles in society is so glaringly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:13 AM
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In that case, certainly, only a mentally damaged woman would choose selling her body to randos over having a loving provider whom she loves back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 05:22 PM
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The legal bond between you and your boss is much easier to break in an event of your boss being unfair towards you. The legal bond between you and your husband, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:41 AM
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It is true though. If a woman is intentionally pursuing marriage for the sake of being provided for, this kind of marriage is inevitably rushed, because she literally cannot afford to stay unmarried for too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:36 AM
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His sense of humour and his Y2K vibe matched mine just perfectly. Also, after several weeks of talking and hanging out, and observing his conduct about me with our mutual buddies, my gut was just like “you can trust this man with your life”. I cannot feel lucky enough to now call this man my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:26 AM
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Okay, let me rephrase it in Internet language: Correlation (here: men who have a higher count of female sex partners also tend to be more attractive to women) does not imply causation (here: higher count of female sex partners is what is attractive to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:10 AM
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If a man is promiscuous there must be something of value that grants him access to sex with women. It could be looks, finances, social skills etc. You answered your own question there. It's not the promiscuity on itself most women are attracted to; it's having something that most women want. Promiscuity is just a coincidence of it: if a man has something that most women want, naturally most women will be drawn to him and take a chance with him, contributing to his count. To illustrate, let's tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:26 AM
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Idk I met a bunch of young adult virgin men/women who are virgins not because of outstanding self-control and impeccable value system, but because either they are sedated by digital entertainment to the point of forgetting what delayed gratification is, or the opposite sex wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. On the contrary, many non-virgins made a mistake or two, learned from it, got humbled by the experience and became much more discerning of themselves and potential partners from that po…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:01 AM
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Girrrl I had a guy interested who was in his 40s while I was in my mid-20s (we didn't date, but were hanging out for business reasons and often sidetracked to personal lives). So many Monty Python references...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:52 AM
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In the past, I dated some older lads and had interest from significantly older lads. We weren't on the same page in life at all, plus they always had that itch to "teach" me about life, and I was expected to take their words at face value. I was oblivious to this dynamic until like 23 years old, but then I was very much done with it. So yeah, cannot be happier to be married to a fellow late bloomer who is exactly in the same place I am in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:41 AM
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“Reborn virgin” is copium for people who are trying to bump up their value in the redpill dating market. “Made pure”, however, is in the Bible and is much more sensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:23 AM
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Why would you hang out with people whose main point of relation to each other is sex/relationship, if that’s something that doesn’t appeal to you? Kinda like being straight edge and coming to a house party just to feel “alienated” because you don’t drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:18 AM
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A man helping an old woman cross a street would be invisible to most women unless he was also tall, hot, etc and only then will they notice and gush over his qualities. Wrong. Helping people who need help gives a guy a huge bump in attractiveness and can easily elevate an average guy to hot. Only the most psychologically damaged women would be turned off by a good deed, and it’d take a guy to be at his utmost socially impotent to negate the effect of this good deed on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:13 AM
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Right. So many guys with FOMO over there, who want to go back to the single life while keeping the benefits of marriage. Their poor wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 03:33 AM
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You can edit the text of your flair. I did it on desktop, not sure if it’s doable on mobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:12 PM
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My husband is 1.5 years younger than me. I have zero problem with seeing him as my protector and submitting to his guidance, he also gave me zero reason to doubt that he sees me as his delicate princess to protect and take care of. I never expected to marry younger, but this was God’s plan. In fact, we are from the same generation, both late bloomers, trying to figure out life together, so I’m not feeling the gap at all. This girl who rejected you because you’re younger is too attached to her co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:09 PM
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This article you linked is no short of perfect. “Emotion creates reality” - so true for so many people! We can observe it all over social media, or with people we just cannot get through to, or even on this very subreddit. Gotta admit, it made me reflect on some of my past emotion-driven behaviours, too. Thank you so, so much for sharing it! Saving it!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:58 PM
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The world is much bigger than manosphere podcasts and street survey videos. Try to observe women in other communities?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:34 PM
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I work in STEM academia, 4 years in one university, now half a year in another. Zero cheating culture. Come join us, we have the funding but are short on people!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:46 PM
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Men swipe right on more women because men want to sleep with more women. If swiping right came with a requirement to give the relationship with this woman an honest go, something tells me that the amount of right swipes between men and women would even out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:21 AM
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My red pill opinion: Women’s standards are inflated due to overexposure to social media and a skewed view on what’s “normal” to look for in a life partner. My blue pill opinion: So are men’s standards, for exactly the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:33 AM
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Because he doesn’t get anything out of it, duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:40 PM
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Whatever the reasons is, we all learn to accommodate each other through being around people we like and care for. We cannot learn this skill while being alone: Loners may not be selfish on purpose, but having nobody else to care about gets you used to only care about what you want. This becomes a problem when you want to find somebody to share your life with; you lost the skill of being mindful of other people, and your boyfriend/girlfriend is other people, with his/her own history, interests, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:04 PM
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If the guy is into things that women are generally drawn towards (like crocheting, or cooking, or teaching preschool), then it’d be totally understandable if he has mostly female friends who share his passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:06 PM
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There are two types of male virgins: "I can tell." and "I could never guess!". It's all about how the guy presents himself and talks about reasons for his virginity. If the guy is desperate for a woman, jaded at women for not lowering their standards for him, or outright talks about all women as unworthy of him, he's in the former category. If the guy admits that he was just very busy with other matters and thus didn't put much time into dating, or is a virgin for religious reasons (like my husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:26 PM
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Stop acting like women actually open to virgin dudes, they're clearly not. So I'm not a woman? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:00 PM
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I married a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:49 PM
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How can there be an “argument” against what men subjectively feel is valuable in a woman? Literally because of the example /u/That__EST provided of many girls staying in unhappy relationships because that guy increased their N-count by 1, so they now believe that if they return to the dating market, they'd have to accept much less than the guy they're currently with. And guys like you reinforce that belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:27 PM
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I don't think Andrew Tate was cancelled for the virgin preference lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:58 AM
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Who cancels men for preferring virgins? All we advise to you lot is to be realistic and either accept that you might be looking for a long time or to be accepting that women give other guys a chance before learning about your existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:10 AM
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I’ve had two hookups. First one was with a guy from school, he was a good company, so I thought I’d give it a go. Neither of us felt anything for one another, so that time was the last one. Second one was at the festival with a lad from England, he was mid and the experience was nothing special again, but I treated it more as a “bucket list”. Neither guy was anything special, it was just the time and place where I was like: alright, this is when people hook up, so I should hook up too to complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:18 PM
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I was taken advantage of when I was in a dark place in life. I was having my guard up and more discerning when I was in a good place in life. For the former, I take full responsibility for making a bad choice in men, but I also hold these men responsible for misleading me and taking advantage of my mental state at that moment. I'll hold other men who do that responsible for this too until they start rejecting women who are clearly not in the state of knowing what exactly they want in life. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:51 PM
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She may not leave you because she ties her self worth to having an N of 1 I haven't seen a greater counter-argument for tying women's value to their N-count - thank you so very much! The woman who knows she'll be fine if she leaves you is the woman who stays with you because she genuinely wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:13 PM
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That’s the dating apps market, where you judge each other based on your dossiers. When people meet organically, there’s so much more that goes into mutual attraction and many more ways to make up for less favourable objective qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:54 PM
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Right, but by saying that it's on women to reject the "side chick" position, you're asserting that there's something that stops men from committing to one woman if they can have multiple. What stops these men from, well, rejecting women who want to be their side chicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:09 PM
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OK, I stand corrected! Please forgive me my confusion on the thread about the "benefits" of being a side chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:06 PM
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Women become side chicks because they eventually want to be promoted to first place. YES, precisely this! Unless it’s a sugar baby arrangement, no woman will accept the side chick position with zero possibility of being promoted to main chick. In situations like this, either the man keeps it vague to keep the side woman around, or the woman lies to herself. Tragic state of affairs either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:45 PM
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Why is that? What stops men from being committed to one woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:17 PM
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Well, if these guys made themselves unavailable to every other woman but their committed partner, there would be no one to chase. Instead, they give other women false hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:16 PM
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A man on our arm that other women want but can’t have? Yes pls! A man on our arm that is every other women’s boyfriend? Embarrassing!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:51 PM
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There's a reason Indian & Chinese men don't dominate the dating game despite being one of the highest earning demographics. Beside the attraction reasons, both those cultures are highly chauvinistic and parents and inlaws have a heavy influence on young families. Especially Indians, their caste system and their obsession with "family honour". I wouldn't want to marry a guy whose parents pretty much tell us how to live life and whom I'd need to constantly prove myself to, or they'll badmouth me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:23 AM
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Disclaimer: Men create dead bedrooms too. Now with that said… In my opinion/experience, you’ll have the best luck with the woman who is confident about herself and her appearance and trusts you when you say that you find her attractive, even if she feels unattractive at the moment. Make sure she’s not that big of a perfectionist; her reaction to forgetting to wear her favourite pendant is “oof, oh well, I’m still looking class” and not “this entire evening is ruined”. Of course, make sure you pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:02 AM
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I’m not talking about contesting each other’s point of view - of course, both the woman and the man need to bring up their respective points of view and see together whose makes more sense. I’m talking about a woman who has to have her way in everything, however small, and sees conceding to the man as a “loss” that she should avoid at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:36 PM
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It turns the relationship/marriage into competition, while it should be cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:27 PM
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Whatever age his flaws cannot make up for his positive features anymore. I'd approximate it at 35-40 years old on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:17 AM
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Oh I see. I'll update my records, thanks! Wow, she's even worse than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:39 AM
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My husband is dealing with some health issues, so I’m the primary breadwinner. But he does side hustles to bring in some money too. All of it goes into the joint account, so all the money that enters our household is ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:50 PM
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I don’t date women, but I argue in a man’s favour if a woman does wrong by him. It’s all about not being indifferent to injustice on either side and making an example out of bad actors, so that others wouldn’t follow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:42 AM
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Two things that you have control over. brb changing my past
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:07 AM
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Are they a fun company though? I’ve conversed with guys a decade younger than me (early 30s here) and we care about completely different things in life. I’ll leave them to their influencer dreams and keep my fellow mid-00s MTV generation husband, cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:57 AM
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My husband is currently going through some health problems, so I’m the one supporting us both (by God’s grace, we’re managing). There was no AF before him either, honest. So… no, I’m not fitting my life into any framework, I’m just working with whatever blessings and tribulations God sends our way! I probably wouldn’t be able to pull that off anyway, I’m more of a trad girl by fate…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:47 AM
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Redpill for the future you. You might be onto a very good thing here!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:38 PM
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If this dude goes and fulfills his fantasy of shagging multiple women, and his wife finds out and files for divorce, who is the homebreaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:36 PM
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It is indeed just one example; my husband does consume some Redpill content, but we are Christian, so sex outside of marriage/no fault divorce is not even an option. However, this example is just amazingly illustrative of how the Redpill defined this man’s measure of worth for him, and now he is at risk of ruining a very good (his marriage to a woman who is his ride or die through tough times and good times) for the sake of raising his worth the way Redpill told him to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:28 PM
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My fiance fulfills 3 and 4 many times over so yay for me I guess. What you’re having is many men’s dream, so I’d imagine you to be more excited about that? Anyways, good for you! Got a question for you: how are you sure that this gal is not with you for your money? Seems to be a fear of many men around these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:15 PM
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The Bible calls husbands and wives to submit to one another, so it’s a fair request!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:21 PM
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Meanwhile, if it was up to them, many men would shag left and right and then turn around and announce that they will only marry a low count, pure at heart woman. Both genders are guilty of double standards; it’s just that men are having a harder time making their preferred scenario happen, so they spin it in the “I’m still a virgin at 26, why aren’t you?” way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 08:31 PM
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Alright, that’s intriguing. What is the Christian slave morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:00 AM
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No Christian man would ever be “meek” or “beta” for his wife. Christian men are called to obey the Heavenly Father, true, but that takes immense strength of character, as it often means resisting the worldly influences. They are also called to be leaders of their families, and every true Christian man honours that calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:41 AM
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Depends. Some will gain enough confidence with those to graduate to real women, and some will get stuck in this escapist fantasy. Just like MMO games may teach you social skills to apply IRL or suck you in forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:29 AM
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Correction: certain men would constantly have casual relationships with women if they were able to attract them. To many of them, this remains an unattainable fantasy. Frankly, why are so many of us so opposed to the idea of desiring and being desired by just one partner for the rest of our lives? Why are we so yearning for “options”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:17 AM
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You’re a brave lad, trusting in the robot not to overdo on the suction (due to Idk, the change of the temperature gradient between your pelvic region and the room) and rip your penis off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:10 AM
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This comment will get drowned, but I still wanted to make a note in the visitor’s book. The only difference between sex robots and existing avenues for sexual release is the tactile experience of another body. No matter how realistic that robot will be, how responsive to physical touch it’ll be, how good at saying all the right things it’ll be… the human partner will never not be aware that this is merely a program designed to pull on all the right strings, just like porn, strippers and cam girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:03 AM
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At this point, I can only conclude that you’ve got to be trolling. Thus I’ll be wrapping up my participation in this conversation. If you aren’t trolling though… may our Lord God have mercy on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:45 AM
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Why though? Because it's the right thing to do. The sexual culture today is messed up (with fatherless homes, men and women not trusting each other, etc.) because of both female and male promiscuity. Men do not get to have all the fun and then turn around and blame women for having had fun with them. It takes two to tango, so yes, both sides should party responsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:35 PM
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Yes! And same for men: is she married to you? No? Don’t have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 05:37 PM
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I think this kinda superpower would just make me miserable, because I’d end up chasing the dream man whom I’d have the absolute happiness with and die with on the same day. Perfection does not exist, but a superpower like this would give me an illusion that since the option before me isn’t perfect, there is a much better option ahead. Kinda like scrolling through dating profiles, you know? So I’m glad I don’t have that superpower and get to be happy here and now with my husband; as for the futur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:09 AM
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Agree. It’s also a man’s responsibility to be a decent human being and not to take advantage of a woman who is interested in him. Frankly, can we all go back to waiting until marriage already?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:28 AM
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Oh please. No woman ever had a healthy and stable relationship with a man who saw her greatest value in being young and innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:05 AM
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It's akin to a woman asking about a man's aspirations; you can infer character, self-esteem, and the level of discipline. Disagree. Judging a man by his vision for his future is not similar to judging a woman on her past sexual experiences. One is a pipedream that can be as rosy as the man chooses; the other is reality that cannot be altered ever. A more accurate comparison would be asking a man what he has achieved already; that’d be the assessment of his part, just like men like to assess wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:01 AM
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Well, in technical definition of the term, you are still a virgin, as losing it requires penetration. Nonetheless, there is now a guy you had a sexual experience with, so he counts as an intimate partner. That's the way I see it, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:25 PM
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Guys seem to be grossed out by high count girls but have no problem with getting virgins/low counts on the track to high count. If a guy is just looking for sex and meets a willing girl with a count of 3, will he say “nah baby, not gonna ruin you any further, your count is still low and you deserve a good devoted man, not me”? No, he’ll happily contribute to making that count reach 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:50 PM
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It’s sexual contact, so yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:28 PM
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Yes. I’m also against sex before marriage. Fornication is classified as sin for so many good reasons, God’s law is there to protect us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:46 PM
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You have sex with any woman with the knowledge that no birth control is 100% effective. If you don’t want to risk kids, abstain. Otherwise, own up to your part in making that baby happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:44 AM
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If you haven’t married her please don’t come here complaining about loyalty: you are obviously also keeping your options open since you haven’t proposed. Yes, yes, so much this! So many guys with forever girlfriends act like what they're having is commitment enough. Marriage exists so that your commitment is witnessed by the third party as well, it is a testimony to the world that you two are a unit now; a responsibility not just to each other, but to the rest of society as well. In contrast, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:25 AM
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Let me guess, the groom was from the UK but currently located in Nigeria, didn't want to video call but would ask her every day if she ate today?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:14 AM
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So, a Christian atheist. Got it. That's a form of atheism though, not Christianity. I'll be happy to pray for you to find your way to God!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 02:14 AM
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So, a dream woman for a conservative man, let alone a Christian! Yet… women like that are not those men’s “type”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 01:15 AM
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“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” If you don’t like fat women, don’t date them, but talking about how it’s because they aren’t sinless enough for you is an insanely high standard you don’t meet yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:16 PM
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Saving this. Finally a valid argument against men who say that men never reject women for innate features!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:08 PM
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Yeah, well, those are maybe 1/1000 of all girls you’d ever meet, unless you hang out in ultraliberal circles, so why worry about what they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:04 PM
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I’m specifically talking about men who claim to be devout Christ followers and want their wife to be the same; I mentioned that their problem with girls they're attracted to is that they claim they are Christian, but their actions do not reflect that. Also, what is "socially Christian"? You either believe in the Holy Trinity and that the Bible is the Word of God and is sacred, or you aren't a Christian. Judging by your lifestyle preferences, you are the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:51 PM
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I think it wouldn’t be that difficult if those women weren’t basically invisible to men. I hang out on relationship-oriented Christian subreddits, and constantly see posts from guys who talk about how women they’re attracted to are lukewarm in their faith. When asked if they considered girls who are much more devoted to Christ, their response is along the lines of “Idk, I’ve met a lot of devoted Christian girls, but they just aren’t my type” which is pretty much code for “If a woman is not Insta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 12:18 PM
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Agree, good observation! Various industries definitely benefit from men’s insecurities and women’s entitlement, so they’d like to keep us that way. This doesn’t help women either: the more we want, the unhappier we are with what we’ve got. So yeah, many men need to learn confidence and many women need to learn gratitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:26 AM
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When it’s drilled into your head by popular media since childhood that a man is only truly a winner when he gets the girl - an attractive one, too - it’s no surprise that you’d do everything in your power to attract and keep a girl if that kind. Sure, you can attract a loyal average looking gal, but all the girls in movies and video games you live vicariously through are impeccably hot, so settling for less is not an option. That’s how I imagine the thought process of simps; those who don’t care…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:16 AM
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You mean the autistic teenager who has a small penis energy and announces it in her email address?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 01:58 AM
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True, and same goes for men, a relationship is always a test of trust. However, in case of commitment, they have zero excuse for a side piece, but in case of casual, they can plead non-exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:52 PM
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For once, I agree with you. Claiming that guys should pay for the work girls put into themselves is pretty much a message to the man that this woman sees herself as the trophy. Whether the man sees her as such as well will determine whether he will pay for the dates or not. Side note on paying for dates, however: If a man seeks traditional relationship, I firmly believe that he should start paying for dates the moment him and the woman become exclusive (as in when he has a guarantee that she is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:06 AM
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About a month and a half before I got exclusive with my now husband (and about a month before I met him) I was talking to this other guy. He was really nice, quite peculiar in his own way, but aren’t we all. Well guess what, when my now husband called dibs on me, this other dude was like: hey I thought we had something serious going for us. In response, I was like: dude, there was zero indication that you want to be exclusive with me. So yeah, guys, if you want to keep things casual with the gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:52 AM
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Oof that’s my arrangement, but my husband is having health problems which are not allowing him to get a job or do much housework. He’s working on it and doing side hustles, however. I must admit, it does grate me the wrong way that I have to dedicate more time of day to “non-fun” “non-creative” stuff as of now, but I trust in the Lord to make things right with time, and try to remember to be patient!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:02 AM
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I think you’re underestimating how much time and effort daily housework and childcare takes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:55 AM
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Idk, the divorce stats for people marrying young and marriages with wide age gaps do not quite agree with the idea that women find their 10/10 husband if only they put themselves out there in college age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:21 AM
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Fully agree. At almost any age (except maybe 60+), a woman can find a man 5+ years older than her; a 40 year old woman is as much of a prize to a 55 year old man as a 21 year old woman to a 30 year old man. Melania Trump married Donald when she was 35 and had her only child, Barron, at 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:16 AM
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Low effort aka “Idk why I made this profile but let’s see how this goes” or “Idk what to tell about myself here, just ask me anything” or “I’m just a guy living a simple life” in description. From what I’ve seen though, girls are much more likely to have low effort profiles and just coast on the filtered pictures of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:56 AM
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And thank you for opening up the conversation! Do you wish you had the strength and assertive nature tough guys do? In the past, when I was insecure about being a non-girly girl, oh yes. But as I started living independently and earning my own money, and mum having no say over my wardrobe and lifestyle anymore, I developed my own "tough but flirty" girly style, and that helped me immensely with accepting myself in my own body. would you rather want to be the leader and have a man be your side ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:32 PM
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I grew up with a brother who's been a great influence on what kinda media I was exposed to, so I engaged a lot with that "male media", and I guess it shaped me in a way I see my role in the world. I understood pretty early that I'd never be the main character of a story like that, simply because I lack physical strength and testosterone to assert myself the way tough guys do, and just from understanding the public perception of men and women as well. Instead, I worked on shaping myself into "the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:36 PM
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Have you been in a relationship? It doesn't have to be perfect for you both to be happy in it, as long as you both have your heart in it! In fact, it never is; every relationship is two imperfect people trying their best, failing, and trying again. Our pride and our insecurities try to take over all the time, and learning to curb them sometimes takes a lifetime. As such, the way to have the best relationship we can have is to put effort and to refuse to give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:26 PM
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If anything, looking at low effort profiles can be fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:17 PM
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You can be open to things while not craving them. His approach is similar to mine before I met my husband; I was content in being single and had no dating app profiles, but I'd shoot my shot with some guys I got to know. I got rejected in majority of cases (shocker for a woman, I know), but I'd be like "welp, back to the lifestyle I'm perfectly happy with" and just carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:05 PM
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I totally agree, I think of the “dating market” as just an umbrella term for the pool of men and women open to dating and/or relationships. But yeah, lots of people try to make it into pretty much a vanity fair and make claims of having “high value” based solely off certain markers of success. That’s just silly. Good to see that we agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:41 PM
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I think it’s best if we agree to disagree, because it doesn’t look like we understand each other. Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:27 PM
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You won’t get the number because it’s all subjective in humans. One girl’s low value is another girl’s high value, same for men. As for knowing that you’re getting fair value, I’d say that the best way to tell is when you both feel lucky to have each other for a partner, while you both being confident that you bring something valuable into the relationship as well. However, this takes a healthy balance of humility and confidence, which many people fail to achieve, thus ending up in relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:23 PM
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I think the OP just got pwned by you. Congrats on your happy marriage and your success, God bless you and yours!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:09 PM
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True, but we do not ask this “what can you offer me” question. We tell from how we feel about each other, if we enjoy each other’s company, if we care and feel cared about each other. Most valuable things about the relationship are non-tangible and cannot be compressed into the answer to the “what can you offer me” question; they need to be experienced and felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 09:04 PM
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Well yeah, if you set your groom price high and there are no takers that you like, then your value is objectively lower than you believe it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:56 PM
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Idk ask my husband. Or any man who marries a woman. But from the look of it, you just want to power trip by convincing women that they are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 08:22 PM
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Hey, appreciate the honest curiosity! Yeah, I can see how this may appear oppressive to another gal, especially one of more liberal views and experience. Thing is, as a Christian, the simple answer to me is God's design. As a man and a woman join together, they become one. On our own, while we're single, we answer to God for ourselves. However, as a married couple, or "one" in the eyes of God, this kind of unit needs a leader who would respond directly to Him - and by His design, this leader is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:23 PM
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This logic is based in the biological reality of sex and the nonexistence of birth control that is 100% effective. Not sure how your example is similar to what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:09 PM
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Thank you, we try! We’re not planning kind until at least a few years from now (well, if they come along earlier, it is what it is), but when it happens, I plan to pull all my work and education experience together and find a remote employment or a side hustle. My background is in applied math, CS and physical science, so there must be something. For now, I’m working on my PhD (leaves me plenty of time to get housework done), and husband deals with some health problems, but I get paid for resear…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:35 PM
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“So common” and “thousands of upvotes”? X for doubt. The relationship subreddits I browse take the side of the struggling partner and call out toxic partners of both genders accurately like 95% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:05 PM
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True that. Well, they mess around and find out. Best we can do is warn those willing to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:46 PM
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Precisely. Just replace “your new car” with “the car that you borrowed but would never own”, because this is what we’re talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:44 PM
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Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova (all are Eastern European countries) top the worldwide divorce rate. Healthy male-female dynamic at play?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:43 AM
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Fun to smash = good enough to reproduce with. If you chose her to have sex with, you chose to take the risk of reproducing with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:30 AM
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What a great way to put it! We can have so much positive influence over our household and our community; this is where our energy should go! Not into the cause that isn’t up to us to determine the outcome of!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:17 AM
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As one of conservative-leaning wives, think I am qualified to answer. Because marriage is not about “me” nor about “him”: it’s about “us”. I make sacrifices, and so does my husband. I submit to him, he assumes full responsibility for the outcome of his final decision. I put his needs before mine, he puts my needs before his. I compromise on going to a place I’d love to go to for the sake of him seeing the place he’s interested in, he makes sure we visit that place I want to see soon after. To me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:09 AM
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My big one is disrespect to the place through your clothes/conduct. Like those celebrities who show up at places like Buckingham Palace in athletic gear or people of both genders who go to a theatrical play in a t-shirt and shorts and talk to each other/stay on their phones throughout the play. Don’t get me started on three-piece suits/cocktail dresses paired with sneakers. Your only excuse can be being a tourist with your everyday wardrobe having to fit in a rucksack; otherwise, it shows me tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:09 AM
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Agree. Just wish guys were more honest about it; nothing embarrassing about hesitating to get in a relationship with a girl whom you don’t find physically attractive, and claiming on the Internet things like “I’d choose a 3 with a devoted heart over a 7 with a history of breakups” is pure virtue signalling. Who are you kidding mate, you’d give the 7 a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:58 AM
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I’m married now and I’m not comparing my husband (who is my first and hopefully last LTR) to past hookups at all. Granted, my number of actual hookups is 2, and they were followed by 4 years of semi-voluntary celibacy before I met my husband, so I didn’t keep any memory of those other than they happened. Those hookups were nothing special in looks at all: solid averages is how I’d classify them, and no, they weren’t sex gods either, in looks or performance. Why did I let them shag me then, you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:42 AM
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Good to see a man who admits it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:14 PM
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Do they really? I see mostly men asserting that women are repulsed by inexperience, but cannot recall any women confirming that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:45 PM
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Wanting an attractive woman who takes good care of herself and is confident in her sexuality, but has a 0/low count and turns herself into a goody two shoes and a lady the moment this specific man puts a claim on her. Wanting an expensive-looking woman, but wanting her to be low-maintenance. Expecting a dual income because “women wanted feminism, they got feminism”, but also full-on takeover of household maintenance/childcare, because “women are better at this” and/or “I’m not gay, I’m not doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:39 PM
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You’d be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:58 PM
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Because men who are most active in this subreddit are about 18-24 years old, and to them 30s feels like an eternity away.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:00 AM
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No hard feelings! We’re on Reddit, after all :) I might’ve phrased it in a manner that could be interpreted twofold, so my bad as well. I just really liked how your comment could be applied to almost all of TRP so accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:46 PM
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I merely paid you a compliment for an accurate observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:28 PM
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Fun fact: most women, married and unmarried, will die alone simply because statistically most men (many of whom are husbands) go to rest first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:37 PM
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Aaand you've summarized 90% of the threads in this subreddit (switch genders when needed), well done!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:35 PM
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Pleasant Personality. 80% of women have these simple things. Hold up, but I heard Western women these days are unbearable? Also this kinda contradicts with wanting " a whole laundry list of [bad word]".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 10:38 AM
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OK, but these women aren't the majority; it only feels like it when you look in progressive communities and on Instagram/TikTok. You don't have to fall in love with any of them; plenty of based, chill girls with low counts in less glamorous areas of life!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 06:05 AM
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Nah, just victim mentality. "Everybody else is having it better than me, that's unfaaair."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:29 AM
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Ehhh they still utter statements like "she's only lonely because her standards are way too high". Also they do hate lonely women who would rather stay lonely than date them; that's quite a hit in the ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 05:19 AM
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First 5 things also can be summed up as “become comfortable with not being in a relationship”. Lots of guys chase wrong women because they want to be in a relationship that badly, and then lament that “relationships are torture”. You are enough as you are; learn not to need a woman to confirm your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:23 PM
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Those women deserve to be called out, agree. But the OP’s post is not about annoyance with women asking this question; it’s about the annoyance with women not responding well to being asked this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:09 PM
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You’re a woman though. Are you telling on yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:46 PM
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If that's what works out for you and your man, godspeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:26 PM
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I think you’re confusing “being controlled” with “being led”. We don’t want to be micromanaged, but we certainly would love to be helpers to a man who has a solid plan for our mutual future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:08 PM
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I'd say this applies only to people who had to come down from the high of the popularity in the dating scene in their 20s. Or popularity in general. Or from a lifetime of escaping the real world. The majority of us are pretty average and have been humbled by the reality early enough in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:34 AM
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Not making mistakes is absolutely preferable to coming on top of the consequences of said mistakes, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:21 PM
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Even if you’re really outgoing and going out a lot the chances that you’ll meet someone with strong mutual sexual attraction, emotional and moral compatibility and who’s life journey dovetails with yours (who is single and looking to mingle) still seems very slim. There's your answer. You can settle with somebody who meets all of your dealbreakers and enough of your preferences to make you a happy husband/wife, or you can waste the rest of your life searching for the perfect partner. Many people…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:07 AM
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If you have the means for a skin removal surgery and thus have a choice, scars are still preferable to loose skin, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:20 PM
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All that you're asking for is reasonable, however I'd contest this point: Someone that isn't too demanding and doesn't start fights/get passive aggressive over minor things. "Too demanding" may range from "wanting a luxury life" to "asking you to wash dishes after yourself sometimes". "Minor things" can range from "leaving a toilet seat up" to "not looking for a job and mooching off your partner". I just hope you agree that manchildren who refuse to pull their weight and use the "nagger" word wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:04 PM
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With women, looks will get your foot in the door, but it is your personality that will get you a permanent residence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:32 PM
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Agree, but I imagine this sub was created with a fair debate between two sides in mind. One side being way more present is surprising, since one would hope the other side would seize the opportunity to engage and share its perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:43 AM
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Neither of us was on Tinder, but my husband had something about his lifestyle that reflected in his appearance and would very likely make me swipe left. Thus, I thank the Lord that I got to know and fall in love with the person behind the screen before I saw him - what I thought would be my ultimate dealbreaker turned out to be a much lesser deal, overshadowed by our insane compatibility in other aspects!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:24 PM
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I'd say the wall only applies to the women (and men) who spend their 20s being entitled to preferential treatment simply off their looks and youth, and also relying on external validation for their self-worth. There are still many of us humbled by life enough to realize that we aren't that special and there aren't hordes of men/women lining up with a proposal ring at our doors. However, the good news is that true happiness in romance is being special to just one man/woman. A feat much easier to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:12 PM
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At 20 years old I knew life, knew exactly what to do with it and that older people are just bitter because they made all these mistakes I definitely will not make. So yeah, 24 year olds are def smarter than 34 year olds. Edit: ROFL you lot honestly believe I'm serious with my conclusion? I'm in my early 30s, of course I know by now what an idiot I was in my early 20s with my "real knowledge of the world".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:36 AM
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Be the change you want to see!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:14 AM
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TLDR: The only thing I can believe affecting you unfairly is the remnants of the affirmative action in school and at work. But if it gives you any solace, the tides are turning against radlib policies, so just gotta wait a few years. If you just dedicate these years towards honing your craft rather than fighting the system that's already dying out, you'll emerge on top! ​ Affirmative action. Colleges are still embracing it even after it was struck down and even though there is a massive gender d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:04 PM
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I believe that, but the burden of proof is on whoever makes the claim. I can name a few, but I’m a woman, so could you name one or a few that impact your life as a man the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:36 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:23 PM
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True, but it's still fun to check out from time to time; sometimes the sub finds a new thing to be obsessed about, and the back and forth in OPs is glorious. I'm getting quite a kick out of the current paternity test craze.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:53 AM
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Let them scream. Why would you be concerned with feminist seething?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:35 AM
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Being submissive and compliant is less trouble than pissing her off or causing a greater conflict. Dumping her (with a restraining order) would be even less trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:31 AM
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I’m down, as long as that insurance doesn’t cover cases of divorce due to any type of spousal abuse. Otherwise abusers would get that insurance, abuse their spouse, and then squeal “homebreaker” when the abused party files for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:24 PM
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Yeah, that’s why it does feel like there are more women than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:00 PM
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Well, one man or woman cannot exactly speak for his or her entire gender. Many of our issues are subjective; it's only because we meet other people online with similar issues that it feels like every single man/woman struggles with the same thing we do. Virgin men struggle with a set of issues, but extrapolating that same set to the experiences of all other men is misleading. Same for any other group of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:53 PM
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Thread: "Men, is there any use for you these days?" onslaught of comments Edit: "Whoa, I didn't say all men are useless, what are you coming at me, I didn't say all men are useless, if you aren't useless, you need not be offended by this, gee, men are such snowflakes these days" See what I did there? It's not about what you ask, it's about how you ask it. The above question could be asked like "Men, what do you contribute that women have a harder time seeing and appreciating?", with some humilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:07 PM
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Is this your way to ad hom an entire sub? Not "the entire sub", but now we know that the poster is quite likely to be (≠ definitely) a virgin blackpill, and we can read whatever men here have to say about women and relationships with that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:54 PM
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Ah, so that’s our relationship experts! It is a bit surprising to me, I was lowkey expecting that the women percentage would be slightly higher. But this explains why the vast majority of posts complain about women, and it’s not more of a 50/50 - not because men are mostly right and women have barely any complaints about them, but because there aren’t enough women here to complain about them on the same level they do about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:44 PM
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Okay, good to see; these cultures aren’t exactly a shining example of a happy healthy family life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:03 PM
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Are you proposing that we follow their cultural standard in this kind of affairs?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:07 PM
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what you mean by the baseline Yeah, by the baseline I mean innate biological advantage of physical strength/ability to carry offspring. Both qualities are insanely valuable in society as a whole, but within the relationship, you are correct, you want to be more than a jar opener and a woman wants to be more than an incubator. Although it does feel nice when the other party utilizes his or her innate biological qualities to take care of you, won’t you agree? :) And what happened to all that media…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 01:11 PM
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I would rephrase it as "when you are truly ready for a relationship, the right person will pick up on that". We Christians encapsulate that into the idea of "God's timing". "Not looking", in this case, doesn't mean giving up on relationships entirely - you still can totally take chances with romantic interests and even taking initiative. It simply means not assigning a value to a relationship that is so high that not having it decreases your quality of life - that is, taking rejections personall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:30 AM
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I am indeed; I still succumb to my pride, for I am but a weak sinner, but since finding Jesus, I try to get better at recognizing and curbing my pride. However well I'm doing in this particular matter, I'm entrusting it to God to guide and correct me, for I cannot put the entire trust in my own, very biased human judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:10 AM
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A devout Christian woman, i.e. a person who UNIRONICALLY believes that her ENTIRE LIFE does not actually matter and is merely a test of faith before "the real thing" begins, is by default never "an ideal partner". Spoken like a true, euphoric in this moment, objective truth bearer. Literally confirming /u/ConanTheCybrarian 's argument about the concept of "irredeemable flaw" being flawed. We humans are indeed very much flawed in our judgements, but the prideful ones will carry the burden of livi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 11:50 PM
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Low self-confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:37 PM
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None of these jobs were seen as "not masculine enough" historically until female lobby thoroughly eradicated male presence in these areas over the years. Even with this assumption, all we have is here and now, with not many men being eager to take on sewing, kindergarden teaching and in-home aide jobs. However, history of workforce did not start at the American suburbs of the 1950s. Women worked outside of home throughout all history as seamstresses, brewers, often helping their husbands at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:22 AM
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Exactly. Like attracts like - former party people settle with fellow former party people and geeks settle with geeks. When geeks go for party people, they’re setting themselves up for failure, and same the other way around - even The Bible warns about being “unequally yoked”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:35 PM
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Women still need men. As a group, sure. As partners, men need to provide more than the baseline - as in be more than their biological advantage of physical strength. Also, if we’re going off that metric, men still need women too - if anything, to take up jobs men deem not masculine enough (the “pink collar jobs” term didn’t come out of nowhere). Again, men need women as a group too, and women need to go above the baseline of the ability to produce children to be considered for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:23 PM
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Wouldn’t you enjoy checking in and out of your parental responsibilities whenever you’d like with minimal to no repercussions for your reputation as a parent? Except for being viewed in a more positive light when you show more involvement than usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 11:16 PM
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You’re not wrong, but men need to be mindful how many hours they put a week not for women. Work-life balance is important; many men regret deeply working through their kid’s first word or first steps. Nobody says “wish I had worked more” on their deathbed, but many express regret not spending more time with their family. If a man works 80 hours a week for his family, he needs to ask himself why. Sometimes yeah, it’s because times are hard and if his wife does not appreciate it, she is indeed an …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:34 PM
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And some aren’t. But it seems that fat naggers are the only type of women men on this sub see ever marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:14 PM
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Lol. I must be a man then, since I’ve never scored with any type of Chad. Edit: And frankly, I don’t sweat it. I’ve got my nerdy Christian husband, and even though he doesn’t fit the redpill definition of Chad, I choose him over every single other man on Earth, and I plan to keep it that way, with God’s help to recognize that temptation, if I ever have any, is from the Devil and should be fled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:25 AM
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That’s a redpill cope, not a reality. A bunch of young adult girls believe socially inept “nice guys” who mistreat them because they either didn’t know any better or were too insecure in themselves to skip that guy and look further. You know, the classic “just give him a chance” doesn’t help…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:14 AM
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Lol, tell me more about how women are never taken advantage of during their years of desirability combined with inexperience - which is usually 16-25 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:30 PM
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Indeed. No need to search too hard, too: there is Estee Williams, who portrays all that, but has quite an obnoxious personality with her ego all the way out there in cosmos.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 06:47 PM
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I married a man who has a certain issue I thought would be a massive dealbreaker for me. So, based off that experience, had I still been single, yes, under the following conditions: He takes care of it responsibly: takes medication, puts on gels, annual checkups, whatever is necessary for it; He takes it seriously, doesn't downplay its contagiousness and respects my concerns about not getting it from him; We are a great match in all other aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:30 AM
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This is interesting, because neither of your links back up the hypothesis that women cheat more than men. In fact, when I take it to Google, there is more evidence of the opposite. So, I cannot comment on a hypothesis I cannot find support for, other then redpill hearsay. Oh, and for the record, your second source is ashleymadison.com , a service that literally profts off people seeking an affair - of course they'd write a blog entry about how one would be happier in an affair. (Part of me wonde…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:07 AM
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In short, being able to reply to the “what’s wrong?” question with an actual answer instead of a passive aggressive “nothing”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:23 AM
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Which men don't find attractive, as l said Fair enough; earn enough to be the primary/sole breadwinner for your family, then!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:26 PM
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You didn't have to say it. This part says it for you: But I'm going to need something, some kind of acceptance, encouragement, inclusion, some idea that I'm doing the right thing, heading in the right direction. Which is difficult to find, currently. [...] I don't have the options or the money or the time or the energy or the mental fortitude to just throw myself at a dozen events per week in the hopes that something's going to click. You can have a million reasons or excuses for not putting you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:57 PM
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He didn't have to say that explicitly. This part says it for him: But I'm going to need something, some kind of acceptance, encouragement, inclusion, some idea that I'm doing the right thing, heading in the right direction. Which is difficult to find, currently. [...] I don't have the options or the money or the time or the energy or the mental fortitude to just throw myself at a dozen events per week in the hopes that something's going to click.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:53 PM
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In other words, you would like every instance of you going out to end in a successful outcome, but since there is always a risk of failure, you’d rather not try at all. This is called risk aversion, brother. Just as dangerous as instant gratification, if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 10:45 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head there. Modern desire for instant gratification is real, and the dating scene is merely one more proof of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:49 PM
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I am saying do not expect zero consequences. Fully agree with you. Same goes for NEETing, do not expect zero consequences. Majority of women do not like men who are NEETs and some women do. I do expect people who lived normal lives to not make huge mistakes after 18. And if they did, well there are consequences. And yes, I include myself on that list. I was not a social person in my early 20s, and now I suffer for that. So, you're saying that making impactful mistakes after you turn 18 is abnorm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:36 AM
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You know it! non 6'7 people with their tiny replies, humph! *stork steps over tiny replies*
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:52 PM
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Well, I think it's common sense that some things are pure wrong, like killing, raping, stealing, etc. Well, you clearly add promiscuity on that list. Basically you compare unemployment to actually criminal activity!!! And you compare sexual promiscuity to actually criminal activity!!! (in terms of the culprit deserving to suffer for his/her consequences for the rest of his/her life, with zero chance of forgiveness ever) Also not a fair comparison, is it? If you fail to mature, you got nothing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 10:24 PM
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True that. I don't quite get why it has to be this high... maybe because 6 without inches is a nice round number?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:45 PM
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ROFL justified
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:42 PM
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If he sees porn addiction as no big deal, just "a guy meeting his needs". However, if he had it in the past, but has overcome it since, is remorseful, takes responsibility and action to make sure he doesn't stumble again - I'm happy to leave his past beliefs about it in the past, for all that matters is that we're seeing eye to eye here and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:11 PM
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They don’t really sound remorseful And that's where their problem was. If we don't take responsibility for our mistakes, we don't do the introspection into what facilitated that action and how we can avoid being tempted in the future. You are correct in being dubious about their personal growth from that, I would be too. Is there not a past behavior from a man that would make you hesitate? Anything I see as wrong but he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:59 PM
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You cannot change anything from your past, and just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Sorry, not following this sentence. The first part is correct, we cannot change our past. However, how could we know in our past that this is a mistake and we shouldn't do it? Everything is obvious in hindsight. And not all "mistakes" should be forgiven, cause if we go by that it means we should forgive thieves, criminals, rapists, murderers, etc. Before going into a certain behaviour, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:47 PM
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Lying is a bad strategy - aside from being a sin, more often than not the truth inevitably comes into the surface. Sure, a woman might lie, but she has to be prepared for the consequences of the truth resurfacing, especially in LTR. Besides, to me personally, when an individual is open about his or her past mistakes and shortcomings, and talks about them in a humble manner, it shows honesty, humility and responsibility, which are all green flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:37 PM
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Depends on who he is here and now. If: - It has been some time in the past (no less than 1 year since the last instance of domestic abuse, the more the better); - He has shown genuine remorse and takes full responsibility for his actions; - He is proactive in never letting this happen to him again (seeks Jesus, goes to therapy, etc.), then I'd say he deserves a fair place on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 07:31 PM
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Yup, non-Dutch men need not apply 😂 it’s a typo of course, I’m 5’7! Fixed it, thanks for catching it!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:57 PM
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Sexual dimorphism. An average woman is shorter than an average man, so that appears to be the natural order of things and stepping outside of it feels different and requires extra mental work. However, as for set 6’ preference… I feel like women who have it (not me, I only prefer my man to be taller than myself, and I’m 5’7) want their man to tower not just over them, but over other men as well. So they would feel like they scored an actual Alpha, who towers over the sea of Betas. Just my assump…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 05:12 PM
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If a person grew out of the hoe phase, he or she nonetheless cannot change it. As for the popular “just don’t be a hoe”, this advice sounds as doable as “just don’t make mistakes”, “just grow up in the environment that doesn’t encourage you to be a hoe” and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:46 PM
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Men have no problem dating women who are submissive and inferior to them in almost every way. Women would rather die alone than do the same. Women have no problem dating men who are dominant and superior to them in almond every way. Men would rather die alone than do the same. Men and women have different roles in society; failure to fulfill our respective roles does lead to less dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:45 PM
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That’s called consequences. You had autonomy over your decisions that led you down that path. So, since we’re at the conservative standards, I suppose it would be just as fair to judge a man for n-years of NEETing before reaching his late 20s and realizing that he needs a career to make decent money to attract a valuable girl. If it doesn’t matter that the girl grew out of her hoe phase, it doesn’t matter just as much that the guy grew out of his NEET phase - both had autonomy over their decisio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:09 PM
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Are those the changes that the other gender genuinely desires? How's that working out for the "changing" gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:54 PM
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It's the one men of this particular community decided that matters. Sure, ugly guys will have a harder time getting a girl interested. But so would broke guys, socially inept guys, arrogant guys, insecure guys, guys who haven't got anything going on in their lives. If you are most of those things, there is no card you can play, for sure. But if you are just one or two of those things, however, you're getting ahead of your competition which seems to be just giving up in droves. You know how many …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:52 PM
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The only context I can think of from your comment is the ability to get women. If that's where your priorities are... I was talking more in the context of being in a relationship with one woman and listening to her about what she needs instead of deciding for her which needs are important and dismissing the rest as "drama" or "crazy". 9 out of 10 times, the only credible source of knowing how to get a woman is an who actually gets a lot of women. Sure thing; again, if your goal is to get 20 firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:42 PM
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Look at all these men dogpiling on the “women are less visual” argument while carefully leaving all other arguments untouched 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:15 PM
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More like men firmly believe they understand differences between men and women, and when their misconceptions are pointed out, they try and convince women that it’s women who don’t understand themselves, and they need to learn from men about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:13 PM
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Yeah, naturally. There's higher concentration of males among doctors though, so I left your category out for the sake of strengthening the argument. Thank you for your service, God bless your trade 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:46 AM
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Dying alone no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:41 AM
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True, you'd rather have a nurse sticking anything up your body due to them being trained to do that to the point of automation. But if all nurses were to disappear from a given hospital all of a sudden, a doctor could still do it for you, maybe with some brushing up with the help of the Internet. There is no way, however, that a nurse would be able to finish your knee surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:28 AM
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she discovered her man was beating his dick to Riley Reid and considers it tantamount to “cheating” It is, however. The brain releases all the same hormones during orgasm to porn as during orgasm with a living partner. Again, the root of the problem is wife letting herself go, but instead of working on that together, the man chooses to just go for an easy way to have a release. Also, aging is inevitable, and many men specify that as a reason for cheating or switching to porn - how fair is it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:24 AM
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There were 22 million workers in the health care industry, one of the largest and fastest-growing sectors in the United States that accounts for 14% of all U.S. workers, according to the Census Bureau's 2019 American Community Survey (ACS). - census.gov And to go even further - In 2021, 1.66 percent of the workforce in the US was employed in agriculture, 19.18 percent in industry and 79.15 percent in services. - statista.com Services employs both men and women; there are a lot of women in custom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:16 AM
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Yes, I meant lower level compared to doctors, as in it takes less time and effort to get a RN certificate than a doctor degree. And I’d argue that a doctor can step in for a nurse, but a nurse cannot step in for a doctor. As for them being paid well, first, it depends on the hospital, and second, does it correlate fairly with the work they put out? Oh yeah, and you compare top tier nurses to “some doctors”, which is an exception rather than the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:57 PM
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It’s the same logic as drawn CP should be acceptable because it keeps nonces content enough not to go after actual kids. I’d argue that we should treat the root of the problem (men and women avoiding and using each other) rather than the symptom (lads needing a release).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:36 PM
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Ah yes, easy jobs like nursing. 90% of medical lower level personnel are women. But since they don’t pay that much, they must be easy and non-essential?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:01 PM
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Haha, I'm playing with cheat codes here, I have a degree in applied math. Still, appreciate the kindness! Yeah, there are so many factors that go into the prediction of a happy marriage beside the n-count, many of them even more important than that; it's fascinating that so many people choose to focus on just this one metric while neglecting so many others!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:47 PM
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Because one cannot change one’s past, and it’s like a permanent punishment for a temporary misstep. It’s like having a preference for men who were never NEETs at any point of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:37 PM
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Z is an independent variable here, so it can be assigned any value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:30 PM
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But they still prepare food, keep tracks of bills and appointments. ... they do all of it for themselves and no one else, which is precisely my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:58 PM
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Serious question: is this still common? We're in a college town in the US and are prohibited from installing a fully automated washing machine in our apartment. So we have a portable one, which washes your clothes and tumble dries them, but you need to do the rinsing in between by yourself, either within that same washing machine (filling and draining it manually) or in a bathtub which we are lucky to have. How common this is? Probably not too common in more established families, but we're just …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:10 PM
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a stove Cooking on a stove top and in the over requires prep and supervision. a laundry machine Not quite, otherwise laundromats would run out of business. We cannot get a fully automated washing machine just yet, so laundry for myself and my husband involves rinsing by hand. Not to mention delicate items that need to be either carefully handwashed or taken to dry cleaning - and I obviously opt for the former. You can't compare a suburban housewife who can just put mac n cheese in a microwave Is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:43 PM
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Because it's simply not a feasible arrangement for a naturally progressing relationship, where, when a man and a woman love each other very much, kids are close to inevitable. Men indeed are capable of learning to do everything a housewife does, or if a family opts for a double income, they can even hire help - however, there is zero way for a woman to outsource childbearing and breastfeeding. And even beyond that, how many men are willing to take on the non-glamorous task of taking care of an u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:07 PM
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Most of the households do not, in fact, have all the newest appliances that cook and do laundry for you. What’s more, the stress of housework and especially childcare lies not within the complexity of tasks performed, but in the requirement to be on top of everything and be available 24/7. You’re pretty much a maintenance worker and a manager combined. You need to remember all the tasks to be done on all the important dates; you need to manage food and clothes supplies; you need to make sure the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 07:11 PM
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Ah yeah, that famous graph that shows the chance of divorce in marriages where a woman is a virgin being like 5% and then shooting up. There are two concerns about that graph: The second maximum seems to be for women with 2 partners, and then it dips for women with 3-5 partners. Does this mean that if you fall in love with a woman who had 2 partners (so 1 part partner and then you, unless you’re waiting for marriage, then it’s 2 other guys before you), you have to send her out in the world to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:46 PM
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OP is 29 years old…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:20 PM
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From the look at your profile, you seem to be the one who “wants many things and has so many expectations”. You would like a woman who can’t live without you and would provide while you’d be a househusband, and also would be tolerant of your alcoholism? What would she get out of a relationship like that? You’d have to provide quite a counteroffer to match the arrangement you desire, and from the look of things, there isn’t much you’ve got to offer. So may I suggest getting your expectations on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 05:17 PM
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Appreciate it, though I’ll try not to get too flattered haha. I’m just as faulty as those other people, yet God loves us so much that he sent his son Christ Jesus to make the ultimate sacrifice for all of our sins. We can choose to love the sin, or love someone who liberated us from it, but not both at the same time. I’m still stumbling a lot, but I keep choosing to go back to the cross. That’s my approach to life and everything in it. God bless!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:31 PM
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Oooof. Can’t win…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:21 AM
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I did, but I’m a woman and not that redpilled, so my tastes might be different. Although I would not introduce her to my least favorite of friends, at the very minimum because she is an unkind, self-centered woman who is willing to tear others down to prop herself up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:16 AM
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I acknowledge that guy as drop-dead attractive, and carry on with my day. I can be worried about what I don’t have, or I can praise the Lord for giving me so much. What foundation can be stronger than “what God joined together, let no man put asunder”? We base our marriage in the Lord and work on it from there. Again, I can worry about what I won’t have in the future, or I can be happy about what I’ve got here and now. I’ll cross that bridge when I get there. However, I believe that by then, I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:08 AM
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Pearl is the female equivalent of Andrew Tate Yeah, one would think that’d get Red Pills to want to wife her up…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:16 PM
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She did mention in one of the vids that it’s been a while since she hooked up, and she’d like to, but is having trouble in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:07 PM
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I assumed it to be a shift in personality after that Instagram comedian broke up with her over her undisclosed n-count and her internalizing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:01 PM
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Could it be projection? They hate themselves for not adhering to the Red Pill standard, so it hurts them to see women not caring to adhere to that standard and yet being happy and even finding husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:59 PM
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Finding a partner could be a secondary goal! Unless she completely gave up on that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:55 PM
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I only brought up her wealth. Would a man turn down a woman who is rich, but short and demure?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:51 PM
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Oh nooooes! Let this be a lesson to all the girls fresh out of high school - it’s never too early and never a bad idea to marry a HVM twice your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:15 PM
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Oh that’s interesting, thanks for the insider perspective! So she herself is quite picky, that explains a bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:08 PM
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That's a plausible theory! It is well known that many female streamers lose audience when the public learns about them having a partner...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:58 AM
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Her generational wealth could allow her to pick a man she truly loves and not out of need to provide for her. According to her, men don't want gold diggers, so you'd imagine a woman of wealth like hers would have guys forming a line to have a shot with her? Interesting point about the age though, so you'd imagine that as she aged, she lost value to men in a way she cannot make up for in anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:54 AM
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I Love Lucy was a hit back in its days (1950s) and it portrayed exactly the dynamic you're talking about. There is also Bob and Midge from That 70s Show. I quite enjoyed it for what it's worth, it was hilarious and I was able to relate and laugh at similar patterns of behaviour in myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:52 PM
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I think you’re not far off. A lot of young people evaluate the world on the metric set up by social media and believe that a job that is easy and/or fun and pays well (like a successful influencer or streamer) or at the very least is glamorous and pays well (like an entrepreneur or a lawyer) is the only kind of job that counts and is worth getting. In the meantime, electricians and nurses, while not being the most glamorous professions, remain in high demand and pay a decent wage, while being mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:51 AM
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How would you feel about a divorced man who disclosed that and is treating you well? Or would it be over between you if at any stage of the relationship he was like “actually, I was married before…”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:30 AM
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So, in order for a woman to be considered “nice”, she has to focus all her attention on the man without asking anything at all in return (be available 24/7 to her man, show all the interest in him without him having to show any interest in her, be anything he’d like her to be without ever contesting her right to be her own person). Because that’s exactly what distinguishes the AI girlfriend from real women. And that’s how AI companies lure men in and make them spend money on their soulless apps…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:13 PM
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My soon-to-be-marriage is with a guy whom I'd skip IRL. However, we met on a gaming Discord and started as an LDR, and it's his personality/attitude/way he treats me that made me fall in love with him and choose him as a life partner. As we've met, I've learned to appreciate and find attractive all of the physical aspects of him. I attribute it to keeping an open mind and being willing to learn to love the real person, without fitting him/her into a narrow box of one's initial preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:49 PM
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Time/age is infinitely more valuable than money. Guy spending money on the wrong girl does not compare to girl spending her best years on the wrong guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:50 PM
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Money comes and goes, but you only get one shot at being a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:16 PM
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Those types don't exactly go for marrying younger women either...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:04 PM
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Most men have the choice between dating a shitty woman or being single. If nasty women are one's only option, why not make your contribution to eliminating the dreaded female entitlement and stay single?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:37 AM
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F, early 30s, low count. To me it doesn't matter in the slightest. I'm marrying a virgin, but I didn't accept his proposal because he's a virgin, or even seeing it as a bonus/disadvantage. I love and am marrying a man who loves God above all first, makes me feel loved and secure second, and everything else after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:44 PM
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How would you feel if men too assumed only the worst of you based on your past, however distant, refusing to acknowledge the person that is before them here and now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:17 PM
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If you want sex, seek marriage. If you don't want sex, let the other party seek marriage with smb who does. signed, a Christian
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:53 PM
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Do you believe it fair to be evaluated on mistakes you've made in the past? You regretting making them (and not making them anymore) wouldn't add anything to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:03 PM
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What if this happened years ago and he clearly is a changed person?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:00 PM
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Was he going into the hookup knowing that he doesn't want that and having experience of how this is gonna end? That'd be concerning, as this shows the inability to uphold his own standards. But if this is in the past and he is repentant and wants his present and future self have nothing to do with his past self? Green flag!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:57 PM
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Saving your comment as a perfect summary of the manosphere mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:52 PM
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So, I am an ex-secular who found God about a year ago. I am not a virgin, but my fornication instances can be counted on one hand and all happened within one of my lower points in life. Back in my secular days, I took virginity praise and n-count discourse for what it's worth: incel attempts to justify why women don't like them. After accepting God and rethinking my view on physical intimacy, I recently had a period of extreme guilt for my past, especially given that my fiance is a virgin, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:21 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story. I have been reaching milestones far later than the public expects you to, and my life had been taking most unexpected turns every few years, causing me to reevaluate my current course and change it entirely, sometimes having to start from square one. What's more, the man I am engaged to is in a rough situation right now and thus will reach his milestones later than the public would expect him to. However, I love him not for the level of lifestyle he can provide (un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:45 PM
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Thank you kindly :) Yeah, I'd like to believe I've done my best with the hand I was dealt in life. Just wanted to provide an example that some of us believe we got it all figured out in our early 20s, and then be totally blown away by the self-rediscovery. Limiting younger ladies to that "initial discovery", like some of TRP tries to do, may result in them stubbornly clinging onto their initial plan and not allowing them to discover other, maybe more fitting for them personally, paths to happine…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 05:52 PM
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I am happily engaged, so am here for drama 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:55 AM
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I come from a not so healthy environment which led up to me believing at 23 that I am unloveable, unwanted, and meant to be alone forever. I got firmly on that track and have built a solid foundation for a career in academia. Then, at 29, I met a guy who showed me that not only I am loveable, but I have a lot of love to give and to make him happy just like he makes me happy. We're getting married next year (I'll be 31), and we're planning a family. By the TRP logic, I should let him know that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:12 AM
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If you haven't figured your shit out by 30 that's a failing on your part. In other words, you are agreeing that it takes time to figure things out. Thus, according to TRP, men still have a whole bunch of prime years AFTER figuring things out, and women have most of their prime years BEFORE figuring things out. How are women having it easier with that argument, again?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:34 AM
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Congrats! God bless your union :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 06:18 PM
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Spot on. "Caring" to these men means "free therapy (with no obligation to follow the advice given) and willingness to give them all your attention at any time they require it, while not feeling in any way responsible to be supportive to you when you need it, since they've proclaimed themselves the ones with problems and are going out of their way to monopolize that status". If you dare to be busy when they need to vent, it means you don't care about them one bit. Fun.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy11/12/19 08:57 PM
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Women have a lot more to lose reproductively by committing to the wrong man. I'm so saving this for the next time I get "why are you so choosy". Edit: scratch that, I'm saving the whole article. Too well written.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/12/19 04:52 PM
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