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Zack_Fair_/r/seduction16/05/15 03:30 PM
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Field ReportZack_Fair_/r/seduction26/06/14 11:41 PM
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the one thing I usually have with me even though I rarely use it anymore is a bent piece of change to do a magic trick with :D aaah, the old days. cheesy, I know if you ask me for beginners the best way to get to natural game is just fucking memorizing some routines, hands down
/r/seduction07/12/17 11:39 PM
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cancelling on a concert is a pretty big flake... and don't get me started on " this is what I want and you're not allowed to react negatively to it " action, fucking reaction, girl
/r/TheRedPill30/05/17 06:13 PM
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"body-shaming case" . doesn't do it justice at all
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/17 11:34 AM
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I think the how will be more important than the what or how you said "how far", which could perhaps differ from girl to girl. when I do this I personally make it a priority to completely ignore the other girl ( this sounds like a contradiction… ), just because women are so good at picking up on "tricks" like that. she has to actually buy that she's not on your mind. You can do this with body language, or rather, by not giving yourself away with your body language; for example I might make it a p…
/r/seduction23/11/16 07:13 PM
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and people disagree when I suggest that social justice has pervaded the sciences
/r/seduction23/11/16 06:52 PM
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biggest one in history ?
/r/PussyPassDenied09/11/16 01:35 PM
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i'll take my chances. ( with any girl, ever )
/r/seduction17/05/15 10:29 PM
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yes, easily. tell her " fine, you lost your shot. " or something similar and simply move the conversation on. just keep talking to her and flirting and whatever else you were doing that was working. then when sufficient time has passed, make an expression like you just realised something and say : " hey, why are you still standing here flirting with me if you didn't want to give me your number ?" your facial expression should be a smile like you're on to her just playing hard to get whilst she a…
/r/seduction17/05/15 08:55 PM
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it's been a long time since i've been to seddit, but when I read this I immediately thought about you guys. I apologize if it's been posted already. you (should) know what stories to tell and what to include in them. here's some tips on how to tell them and delivery
/r/seduction16/05/15 03:32 PM
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right off the bat; I get the impression you think gaming strippers is somehow easier than gaming other girls. Quite frankly strippers ( at work and probably otherwise ) are some of the most hardcore targets. but from my past experience at strip clubs it was easier to talk to women there because they often approach you, and I tend to be more willing to approach them (maybe because it's their job) always, always keep in mind strippers are after your money first and foremost. the biggest mistake yo…
/r/seduction16/05/15 03:26 PM
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if she's a quality girl I don't mind giving oral first. most girls return the favor. if they don't I'll just not do it again, but eventually ask after having sex a couple of times. if it's a girl of which I don't know where she's been, so to speak, I wont do this, but in my experience those girls are more likely to give head anyway.
/r/seduction06/09/14 04:12 PM
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bring up whatever interesting thing you might have done that week romance and relationships. girls loove to talk about that and you're insinuating yourself into the right area. ask her what kind of partner whe is, what she looks for in a man ( remember it's important to not fall in line and depict yourself as her ideal man when she tells you this; be a badboy) , etc. the next step: sex and flirting. an easy way to get there is by escalating from the above. it's probably the best conversation you…
/r/seduction06/09/14 03:42 AM
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yeah, enough pussyfooting around. ideally you'd ask her face to face, but if it's going to be too long until you see her again then text. tell her she's convinced you she's pretty cool and that you'll take her out on a date. just shotgun it. and please, don't call yourself a pussy while asking her out. that's not really what a girl wants to hear. also blahblah /r/askseddit etc..
/r/seduction06/09/14 03:23 AM
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my golden rule is "crack as many jokes and jabs as you want at other people's expense, as long as you make just as many about yourself". it filters out the "being full of himself" part of the whole "douchebag/asshole" meme and people smart enough to see that you don't take yourself or any insult you make seriously won't think poorly of you. the rest is just dumb; to borrow a phrase from a classic "asshole" : "if they can't take a joke, fuck 'em" then there are just the people looking for an excu…
/r/seduction06/09/14 03:16 AM
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then don't use it
/r/seduction06/09/14 02:59 AM
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date and screw other women in the meantime. the detachment you're looking for is something you can grow in my experience
/r/seduction05/09/14 08:33 PM
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why exactly ? I don't feel like this is particularly great advice. this won't work on girls with the " work for it " mentality, so basically most of them, especially the hot ones.
/r/seduction05/09/14 08:31 PM
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not completely the same but I've banged the girl in the room next to mine ( sort of a dorm situation ). there are certain perks… for example I was able to pinpoint the moment to turn up the "heat" cause I knew she had broken up with her boyfriend. we don't live next to each other anymore however. I'd say do it. especially if you're leaving. even if you weren't though, people should be able to be adults about shit.
/r/seduction05/09/14 03:57 PM
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yeah. only difference is louder music to deal with
/r/seduction05/09/14 03:53 PM
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haha, PickUpArtist ;) consider reading the glossary on your right
/r/seduction05/09/14 10:42 AM
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the seddit front page on most days is that list. the most core principles keep coming back up
/r/seduction05/09/14 01:49 AM
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pussy. plain and simple. I'm young, I want to make the most of life while I can. no qualms in saying it's the #1 reason. then there's the fact that it seems to bring out a better side of me. aside from that pickup does legit miracles for your social life which I'm pretty sure will also be a plus for my professional life later on when I'll have a massive network of acquaintances. lastly I've seemed to stumble into some sort of mentorship role for friends and some dudes online so I feel like I'm s…
/r/seduction04/09/14 07:45 PM
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look at another post that is up here right now about house parties. same rules apply as people have pointer out there too
/r/seduction04/09/14 07:31 PM
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the same thing that makes you different from every other guy that would approach any other girl: you're a PUA, not the next best guy without a clue
/r/seduction04/09/14 07:22 PM
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mood/state is the same for everyone; you're either in the zone or not quite, so I'm going to ignore that part because it's more of a variable than a core problem. what seems to be your problem is being too passive. you need to grab the situation by the balls sometimes when you can't quite get there subliminally. it's actually been one of my most recent epiphanies; I was discussing it with my best friend ( also a PUA ) about a month ago; we we're discussing how effective it is to just tell a woma…
/r/seduction04/09/14 01:09 PM
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strike up a conversation when it's not that busy ( because she will be nervous to get back to work if not ). that's the easiest way to game her like any other girl. tell her you want to do something with her after work. a good line is " when do you gett off work" for example
/r/seduction04/09/14 10:20 AM
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pursue more than one at a time to see how your brain reacts
/r/seduction04/09/14 10:18 AM
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I ask them to tell them something interesting about herself or if there is something interesting about them
/r/seduction03/09/14 10:26 AM
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most available programs are designed to start small and get you out in front of people pretty quickly if you stick to them. otherwise it's easy enough to make one of your own. for example; asking a person for directions is a classic first step, saying "hi" to 5 people you don't know at a party as you pass them, high-5'ing a stranger in a club, making a situational remark to a random person at a party or social gathering, going up to people and introducing yourself,… you can be creative in settin…
/r/seduction01/09/14 01:23 PM
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if you want to go about your business waiting for her to contact you that's fine too I guess
/r/seduction01/09/14 08:13 AM
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hmm ok. I'd be a little more decisive and ask her for her number too . you want to get off facebook because texting is more personal. [24 hours later] " okay let's do this right, give me your number so we can make plans to get dinner sometime. when do you get back by the way? "
/r/seduction31/08/14 08:55 PM
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hands down the SIRC guide to flirting. not really meant as PUA material, but thorough and academic, two things I value a lot in instructionals. if you're learning seduction and didn't know of its existence yet then read it asap
/r/seduction31/08/14 02:43 PM
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well it kind of is just "do stuff" . specifically whatever; " do you think the girl behind the bar was trying to play matchmaker ? " , " you just wanted to ask a light so you could get to meet me huh ?" , " do you think it's coincidence the girl at the bar mixed us up?" . just say the first thing that comes to mind. that's also why I can't be that specific; I can't think for you. sure I can give you some random lines for these scenario's but every situation is going to be different anyway
/r/seduction30/08/14 11:46 PM
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it's either a classic dry spell; your methods have worked before and are now not for a certain period of time by coincidence. -> soldier through and keep at it or it's not as much of a dry spell as your methods being flawed. -> escalate after/instead of number closing to K- and F-closes on the same night instead of moving on after 10 minutes. ( seriously, there's a limit to the amount of interest and attraction you can generate with such a limited timeframe ). or you could try to set up dates wi…
/r/seduction30/08/14 11:14 PM
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easy mode: just start talking to these people. don't let them walk away. say anything that can spark a conversation. doing literally anything is better than doing nothing like you did. normal mode: get some social skills so you'll learn to react to these cues in an interesting way. all you need for social skills is experience. how do you get experience ? see [easy mode]
/r/seduction30/08/14 11:02 PM
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yeah that's a pretty terrible way to wing; remember you want to sell your friend, not yourself. the most recent post about winging was in response to a request similar to yours; here it is typically you'll be trying to give your friend and his target as much 1on1-time as possible by distracting the distractions as it were. and you can take care of lots of little things: buy them drinks/shots , increase your friend's value (subtly!) , open a set ( great for shy friends), etc. etc. remember the (i…
/r/seduction30/08/14 07:40 PM
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what I do is I keep them around indefinitely until they inevitably want to have the talk. up until that moment your relationship with her is undefined and all bets are off. if she hears gossip about you and other girls or runs into you while gaming/dating another woman it is her own fault if she gets pissed off for assuming things about your relationship that have never been discussed out in the open. during the talk you'd initially best just put your cards on the table about your intentions. ob…
/r/seduction30/08/14 07:07 PM
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are you familiar with the theory of being a value giver vs. a value taker ? http://www.rsdnation.com/robotb0ner/blog/value-giver-and-value-taker-they-know http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1gkth6/above_the_game_part_9_giving_back_be_a_value_giver/ I doubt it's your personality in any case. it's probably all in your head
/r/seduction30/08/14 04:17 PM
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LTR's : generally everything up to the first date is the same. if you desperately want to do something different for some reason then try to be less smooth / a typical ladykiller about things. someone suggested that it could be beneficial to not go for the lay on the first date because it could imply you are not only interested in sex or a typical player. you could extrapolate this to escalation in general; escalate slower, because after all, your plan is to be seeing her for a long time. girls …
/r/seduction30/08/14 04:08 PM
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if you find yourself agreeing with these statements you should check out /r/theredpill. some of the stuff is pretty hardcore so they get a lot of flack, but these phrases are pretty rational and they've built their whole theory around it
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:50 PM
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nooo, don't invest that much via text ! you shouldn't overtext in general. I'm seeing a girl monday and a very similar thing happened; we didn't text for about six days because I almost never initiate to begin with and she was out of the country turns out. we had a date set for monday so because I needed at least some confirmation I sent her a single text yesterday saying I was going to make reservations and asking if another appointment she might have had didn't come up. that's all. the concept…
/r/seduction30/08/14 03:22 PM
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" NO GAME… game…….game …. " rofl, I used to love this show before I learned about the pickup community
/r/seduction26/08/14 08:23 PM
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they have a reddit that is centered around self-improvement, i think it's called /r/selfimprovement maybe ? welcome to /r/seduction. I'll even give you that self-improvement is very important, I have no qualms with that. now that we have that info, what do you think this question falls under ? [seduction] or [self-improvement] ? names are very important, again I agree ! so it should be worthwile analyzing if pretending to forget one is a valid seduction technique
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:57 PM
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warning: side-effects may include getting slapped if the girl is full enough of herself
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:50 PM
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do you even know in what sub you are ? there's no place for kneejerk judgemental crap here, you have the rest of reddit for that. if OP has a question answer it according to what you believe and sustain your position with arguments , don't just call him an asshole and be done with it if the question is about efficiency and not morality
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:48 PM
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why exactly would that be a problem again ?
/r/seduction26/08/14 04:37 PM
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DO NOT JUST SHAVE THE SEPARATION use tweezers
/r/seduction26/08/14 04:35 PM
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well, ask yourself why you need one per se ? most of these just compile information that is readily available anyway. it's just not all in one spot
/r/seduction26/08/14 04:32 PM
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some of the "honest truths" have very debatable counter-arguments to them, but I knew I wasn't going to agree with everything when I came to the bolded " college isn't the best time of your life" part . OP and me have a very different lease on life apparently, but in the end stuff like that is all opinion-based and OP did a good job with correcting some of the stuff in the other one
/r/seduction26/08/14 04:31 PM
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well I only said if I did have to :P edit; I guess I didn't but I implied it
/r/seduction26/08/14 04:24 PM
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FR's of weird situations are more informational than you think. it can help guys by pre-emptively arming them with second hand experience should they ever happen to find themselves in a similarly odd scenario. best thing you did here was telling the other girl to leave you two in the end. I'm going to take away from that that if all else fails to just explicitly say what you've been trying to do without words in some situations. if you can't pick up on the clues, then consider a rule of assuming…
/r/seduction26/08/14 01:12 PM
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you've gone a little far in your desire to shit on everything in the other guide, which admittedly was somewhat misguided and made me frown quite a number of times. other than that I like it ! I'd definitely choose yours over the other
/r/seduction26/08/14 12:45 PM
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just keep "stacking" the dates ; day 3 , day 4 , day 5 and so forth. that's honestly still just the normal progression of how couples are formed. keep doing the things that attracted her to you in the first place and eventually you'll come to a point where it's not so much about game as her deciding if you two are or aren't compatible. in the first case you'll become boyfriend and girlfriend, in the second she'll stop wanting to meet or telling you that things aren't working out for her. if you …
/r/seduction25/08/14 02:55 PM
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I'm all for being a diehard and all, but in situations like these it's probably better to turn off the seduction switch and be a pal, like you would be there for a friend. a girl with issues is also more likely to consider being intimate with you again if you can demonstrate you are not just a PUA, but also connect with her on an emotional level( in other words not like a typical player )
/r/seduction24/08/14 03:50 PM
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oh.. well I have no such rule. you're missing out on the reverse "do you still remember my name?" ( the line women often use for selection purposes) for example. a very neat trick to switch the buyer/seller role dynamics. I often use it as a condition for me asking her number
/r/seduction24/08/14 02:26 PM
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in what scenario of the two ? in case she's forgotten it and you want to use that or in case you want to subliminally help her remember it like you propose ?
/r/seduction24/08/14 02:04 PM
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I'd be interested to poll if people think it's better to have her forget your name ( cause you can definitely leverage that in interesting ways ) or help her remember it. both have a strong case for different reasons
/r/seduction24/08/14 01:43 PM
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haha sweg. no kiddin' I used to wear something eerily similar. here's what you do: go to your hairdresser and when they ask you how you want it, tell them to just do what they think will look best, give them complete freedom. then close your eyes. when you open them up again, wink at the handsome stranger in the mirror. make sure you book one of the most experienced hairdresser at the salon. if you're too chicken to try that, then go Bradley Cooper in the Hangover-style
/r/seduction24/08/14 11:37 AM
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yeah, my best friend turned me onto it. he's hardcore about it and really believes in all the benefits. me not as much. I only fap on weekends now (unless I'm going out on saturday or friday too) . I guess you feel a little more "bold" to stick a word on it; you're a bit more daring as to what you dare to say to women. you feel like you want to take your whole day by the balls. could only be a self-fulfilling profecy and placebo effect though as the first week I tried it I had mad success and ha…
/r/seduction24/08/14 09:38 AM
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you don't need anything. just say it's not your style
/r/seduction24/08/14 09:32 AM
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seddit and being chained to my goddamn desk right now :(
/r/seduction24/08/14 08:42 AM
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word to the wise: if you try this make sure your dancing ( I'm guessing most guys will think of grinding and such ) matches the goddamn music. trying to dance all slow and sexy to upbeat techno music is both retarded and very obvious as what you're trying to do. also please, please make sure you know how to hold a goddamn beat. you don't have to be Usher-ing the fuck out on the dancefloor, but try to at least keep your two-step (= left/right movement ) in sync with the rythm. in doing this you a…
/r/seduction23/08/14 11:26 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2ee4ep/the_fundamental_differences_between_male_and/ too coincidental to not link
/r/seduction23/08/14 11:18 PM
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good post ! emotions are such a big part of women's behavioral psychology it's crazy. . sidenote : I don't know if you care but you're in the ballpark with the scientific explanation. this system actually overscales and predates cavemen. it's evolutionary biology; similar to most species human males instinctually want to mate with as good as any female ( and as many times as possible), whereas the females are "genetically" tasked with selection of the most fit potential mate out of all the males…
/r/seduction23/08/14 11:10 PM
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step 1 : reach out to some people who are not close friends but in town and suggest to go to the party together. someone you get along well with, but you typically don't hang out with. tell them you want to go to the party but your homies are out of town if you have to. this is already a step forward and one out of your comfort zone; perfect! step 2 : go there, have fun first and foremost and make new acquaintances. step 3 : okay, you're there, you're in the zone; you're having fun. look around …
/r/seduction23/08/14 10:59 PM
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standard MO is getting the number ( optional ) , getting the kiss and then setting up an F-close . the reason behind it is because each step helps you build up the required rapport, attraction and comfort to set up the next. got it ? I can always elaborate about something if you want
/r/seduction23/08/14 10:48 PM
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yes exactly, take it easy.it's just your head trying to screw you over
/r/seduction23/08/14 10:45 AM
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rookie mistake is letting your mind trick you into being overinvested in a girl cause you had sex, come on OP, you're better then that. fuck oneitis. just keep exhibiting the traits that got her into you in the first place. don't get clingy; don't get needy. if you want the thing to go anywhere in particular then don't silently hope for it, but be the active leader in the dynamic. increase the frequency of your meetups until you can become a couple if that's really what you want. if she doesn't …
/r/seduction23/08/14 10:11 AM
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obviously you can't just ask your SO what her preferred "language" of choice is, but why couldn't you just tell her yours and skip a few steps instead of doing it subliminally ? well thought out post, kudos
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:46 PM
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you were all but too civil with that retard, don't worry about it.
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:15 PM
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yeah seriously ! if someone spouted a rapist-accusation so gratuitously on me I'd give the unsung biggest idiot I met that night a good long stare with my feelings towards him clearly painted on my face
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:15 PM
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It seems alot of the guys here have got it together far more than me you'd be surprised. yeah, posting daily to seddit might generate too much clutter, but you could do a summary on here
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:07 PM
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odds are she also misses being able to date and trusts you enough by now. I'd say ask her out on a traditional date (again) ; like dinner or something or whatever instead of the more "hands on" seduction approach. this way she gets to start slow. it could help to be honest and tell her she's been on your mind. what's going to happen is she's going to tell her therapist and he's going to have to be a bro and tell her it's a good idea to restart her romantic life . ( because 'far as I can tell it …
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:04 PM
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here you go pal, my answer is also in there http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2dn02k/dealing_with_her_friends_that_dont_want_it_to/
/r/seduction22/08/14 09:53 PM
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I promise I'll read it and give you my notes if you post it
/r/seduction22/08/14 09:48 PM
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lol this is accurate
/r/seduction22/08/14 09:33 PM
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if you're really over her then you contact her once just to throw out a line and if she's not cordial or even rude then you say " to hell with that bitch" and move on without much thought… you've got nothing to lose doing this; that's just my two cents if you only contact her that once she'd have to be batshit insane to make stalking allegations and the like
/r/seduction22/08/14 04:26 PM
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the distinction you need to make is [don't contact her, get over her first ], and then, there is nothing wrong with contacting an ex. if not you're right; you'll just be a sniveling mess and you won't make a good impression pro tip OP : delete her as a friend on facebook. it sucks, but it can be a real ballbusting trigger sometimes when you've managed to make some headway forgetting about her and then you see her having fun and shit first thing you do when you open up facebook.
/r/seduction22/08/14 03:36 PM
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good for you man. don't stall yourself, get out there and go for it; you've waited long enough. coffee or something is fine. I know this is a milestone for you, but there are like sixteen thousand more from here on out; the important thing is to go grab your experience and make mistakes and learn. why not make an FR ?
/r/seduction22/08/14 03:30 PM
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yeah, fuck it ! "hey ____ , how are you nowadays ? you crossed my mind the other day because I ____________________ . let's [catch] / [meet] up !
/r/seduction22/08/14 03:21 PM
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/r/relationships is sneakily one of the worst subs in the damn site. it's essentially the embodiment of all the shite on reddit; judgemental people telling other people what to do based on incomplete source material because they like to think they have the monopoly on morality. and that's just my main gripe ! furthermore there is all the bitching and pity-parties ( note the not so subtle opposite mentality of seddit) , the judging, self-righteousness and reddit's trademark feminism-gone-too-far.…
/r/seduction22/08/14 03:17 PM
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some guys forget about common sense when kino'ing and are much too touchy. don't be that guy; Always Be Calibrating. first girl was legit imo. consider escalating slower with some girls. you've got time right ? second girl sounds so full of it I'd be nervous to see her around thumbtacks; forget her.
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:22 AM
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read actual psychology non-fiction if that is your goal
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:14 AM
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make a diary and post it all at once. people here love success stories
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:12 AM
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" oh hey ! it's ok I didn't even notice " follow-up text : " I'm also swamped lately until tomorrow. let's hang out tomorrow night" why is my answer always the meanest one ?
/r/seduction22/08/14 10:06 AM
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no I agree, there's just not much verbal communication
/r/seduction21/08/14 09:44 AM
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haven't noticed this campaign. feminists have always been acting dumb. game hasn't changed in the last months
/r/seduction21/08/14 01:04 AM
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I'd argue that the "inner game" predominance in contemporary seduction has already made your case for you. an undeniably good thing that has come from inner game/self-improvement is the promotion of effectively increasing your value instead of just displaying high value with routines and tricks and stuff. don't get me wrong, I think you have a point. it's just that you're a bit late with this knowledge and most people realize "outer game" isn't the end all be all of seduction…
/r/seduction20/08/14 09:46 PM
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I looked it up and it's not that useful sadly. so here are some cliff notes off the top of my head: don't be as forward as you would at night, smile, be enthousiastic and stand your ground. don't ever get discouraged ; make a rule of taking rejection with a nice smile and walk away to the next approach ;)
/r/seduction20/08/14 09:36 PM
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you'll find women alone in the park , coffee shops, library, laundry place, maybe a store or just in the street. only place they go social mode would be like at a barbeque or an after-work party though. that's just how society functions today I guess I posted about daygame some time ago I'll see if I can find it
/r/seduction20/08/14 09:20 PM
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no, library is doable. good mindset. don't worry, if you're disturbing them they'll make it clear.
/r/seduction20/08/14 09:16 PM
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thank you so much for your contribution
/r/seduction20/08/14 09:12 PM
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yeah fuck clubs. Could you go to bars where there is some music to dance to that doesn't overpower possible conversation ?
/r/seduction20/08/14 07:18 PM
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anywhere during the daytime. all the things you do alone ? girls do those alone too. but if you want to start off easy, you're better off approaching girls who are in "social mode" so to speak. typically at nighttime at bars and social gatherings even if they are in group. you need more game approaching a girl that is just tryn'a do her groceries than girls on their night out. trust me on this.
/r/seduction20/08/14 07:08 PM
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if girls are being bitches then tell them ! don't let them walk over you. often it's a way of weeding out the weak
/r/seduction20/08/14 06:02 PM
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fuckin' slap her on the ass back man ! how has this not been the first thing you think of ?
/r/seduction20/08/14 05:57 PM
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go in with intent. flirt mercilessly. if they are around you often enough otherwise they will become your friends (nothing wrong with that). and if they do decide to give into your advances, they know what they are getting into
/r/seduction20/08/14 05:55 PM
0

sounds like looks are a factor here though. an average guy wouldn't pull this off so well
/r/seduction20/08/14 05:53 PM
16

" I know, thank you" then either segue to another random topic ( thus leading the conversation on ) or elaborate something about the thing that has been complimented and let the conversation evolve more naturally from there. maybe you'll think this is too cocky, but I would like to contrast some of the other advice you've gotten so far; responding with a compliment to getting one, first of all, is very predictable. it's almost become commonplace etiquette. therefore it will also be perceived as …
/r/seduction20/08/14 05:42 PM
2

this is definitely contemporary pickup endgame, but I do deplore the fact it's so hard to describe and teach this totally legit inner game state of mind
/r/seduction18/08/14 06:44 PM
1

that's what I thought
/r/seduction17/08/14 07:22 PM
2

I also just want to have fun interacting with people at the bar. so I just see where that goes. dancing is fun, kissing is fun, sex is fun, friendship…. etc… there is no specific endgame
/r/seduction17/08/14 06:29 PM
2

actually I clicked your FR because there was no description. refreshingly modest instead of all the guys we get bragging in the title about an F-close, which you also easily could have done. that's not the point of seddit anyway. must say, this one really sounds like it fell in your lap. did you run any game ?
/r/seduction17/08/14 06:28 PM
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don't worry, I think your ass looks kind of nice :) I'll make an exception just this once
/r/seduction16/08/14 08:41 PM
1

I have a technique to add : a little persistance and determination can do wonders here. when I go out with only girlfriends they often get hit on. normally I don't cockblock if the guy approaching us has decent game actually, very few of them do, nowadays I don't cockblock if the guy aknowledges the male of the group (me) or buys me a drink or something; then they have my blessing. this doesn't mean the other girls won't try to cockblock for a variety of other girly reasons. what I have noticed …
/r/seduction15/08/14 04:11 PM
0

oh hell no, I wouldn't tolerate this for a half a day without going evil bastard. but the things I would advise you would heavily express your annoyance, so you're better off with someone else's advice.
/r/seduction15/08/14 04:00 PM
5

best case scenario you open immediately after first eye contact. second best move is going up to her again later as you described then there's a bunch of other crap you could do and somewhere at the bottom; worst case scenario is you don't go up to her and order another drink
/r/seduction15/08/14 03:55 PM
1

don't worry it will, it will. but the curve is different for everyone
/r/seduction14/08/14 11:04 PM
3

we get succes stories every other half a day on here. someone's probably typing one up as you read this so just stick around long enough. as you can tell my appetite for these types of posts has been sated to put it gently. I'm sure others share the feeling as well my question is why you want to read any in the first place instead of just asking for regular old advice about the problems you've identified ? edit- ROFLMFAOBBQ ONE POPPED UP JUST NOW. and it's a long one too, meaning I was literally…
/r/seduction14/08/14 10:26 PM
2

you have a very positive attitude, looking at a missed lay opportunity like that. don't rely on your friends this much. your pal may have meant well, but he was effectively cockblocking you by making you come at his command and talking you up. not to mention him pushing you on her will appeal to a woman's natural instinct of wanting to do the exact opposite of what she's been told. if you act more on your own accord you'll show her you have a decent spine in your back. for example, you should ha…
/r/seduction14/08/14 10:22 PM
2

go out in the city and attach googly eyes to everything and pose next to the objects for selfies and pictures
/r/seduction14/08/14 08:12 PM
1

you know how I am confident? I do whatever the fuck I want. and if this often translates to being a dick then so be it. you can't just draw the inverse relation between confidence and acting like an asshole. I wish to point out your goals: having fun, being confident, etc… are not necessarily impeded in any way by being a dick. you're missing a premise there also putting down the boyfriend is not the best way to get a girl who has a boyfriend
/r/seduction14/08/14 08:08 PM
1

no, I know. it's because they read them out of context and condemn who uses these lines that I said it. don't worry, I'm plenty far down the asshole-scale myself
/r/seduction14/08/14 07:51 PM
3

the "nice guys" are gonna jump on this like piranhas
/r/seduction14/08/14 02:34 PM
2

if she's running game on you I don't see the problem, let her if you want her and profit from the situation. if she starts acting like an "alpha" this doesn't mean she is using game on you. keep gaming her in that case
/r/seduction14/08/14 02:29 PM
6

you are good with women and probably somewhat attractive too, look no further and also don't worry about it, I get "assumed" to be gay plenty of times until I challenge the girls to "convert me then" .
/r/seduction14/08/14 02:23 PM
4

my "phase one" kino moves are poke whilst teasing hug after negging grab her hand and pull her behind you; enthousiastically "dragging" her somewhere ( imagine how a child would drag their parent to an amusement park ). when she catches up keep holding her hand ;)
/r/seduction14/08/14 11:39 AM
1

hah dude you have the worst luck. if I were you I'd really try to establish your meeting as a date ( " well this is going to be the first time I go on a date with a girl with a boyfriend" ) . or if you just want to have fun with a friend that's fine too. if she really keeps bugging you about it respond in a way that will get her to realize she is being aggravating ( "geez, no I don't, okay ?" ) . don't get mad of course but maybe roll your eyes a little and break eye contact when you say it. bec…
/r/seduction13/08/14 09:46 PM
4

reportedly making a woman feel like the most important person in the world can do wonders for your game. I don't think so. maybe a wife or even a long-term SO, sure. but putting some random girl on a pedestal like that is going to let her walk all over you.
/r/seduction11/08/14 11:17 AM
8

assuming attraction is the more conventional route to keeping your cool. but whatever works I guess ?
/r/seduction10/08/14 06:14 PM
-2

then don't use them :)
/r/seduction10/08/14 04:36 PM
1

at your discretion and depending on how hard you are teasing her i tried to imply that
/r/seduction10/08/14 04:23 PM
0

you need to have an answer ready for those drunk shit-tests because when you do it's double as impressive to them because they are more impressionable. drunk girls are rather easy-mode
/r/seduction10/08/14 02:13 PM
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make the question a qualifier as well. instead of " tell me about your friends -> "so, are you a popular girl ?" "so, do you have any friends at all?" "so, are there any people around here that can stand you for extended periods of time?" of course at your discretion and depending on how hard you are teasing her
/r/seduction10/08/14 02:10 PM
1

go for it. and I mean balls to the wall. if you bring your risque sense of humor with conviction and you follow up with a good laugh at yourself you'll be able to "infect" your audience. this applies to pretty much anything being acceptable if brought with enough panache. some ( most ) girls will love it (I'm imagining especially in a "girls night"-type scenario, which brings out this naughty mindset) , sometimes you'll have to calibrate a little
/r/seduction10/08/14 02:06 PM
10

super post ! when I first started pickup i realized quickly that being socializing with people ( not with women ) was a shortcut to success. since then I made a rule out of starting a conversation whenever I get the slightest chance. it's like it's a muscle that you can train in a way, because soon conversating becomes second nature
/r/seduction10/08/14 02:00 PM
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this is kind of why we preach outcome independence. neediness is a huge attraction killer, which is true for both sexes. I think everyone thinks like you do to a degree. a week or two ago i seduced this incredibly dominant and sexually aggressive girl. typical maneater. next time I see her a few days later she's like this annoyingly needy duckling I could not get away from. it was a huge hit to my attraction to her, despite her being a bonafide bombshell and getting catcalled all the time when w…
/r/seduction10/08/14 01:54 PM
1

never bought into that either. "when you leave a woman, try to be better off than when you found her" is what I say
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:34 PM
4

girls will be interested in you approaching them. it literally never hapens to them, so at the very least they will be intrigued. plus girls like to think that they are good people, so they will make an effort to be extra nice, which you can use to your advantage. and you will hardly ever get harsh rejections anymore
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:29 PM
2

okay, don't talk to the whole group then if you think you're better 1on1, but you're not maximizing your chances that way and I maintain that engaging a group of people in conversation is like a muscle you can train. openers are not that important. "hi' can be more than sufficient; it's what you do after it that counts. typically a "you" opener is only directed at the girl in question anyways, but girls check out guys all the time. odds are they even discussed you already
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:44 PM
3

be more socially active than passive. I'm willing to bet the first thing you did wasn't go up to the girls and introduce "college-you" , who hangs out with the guys who were popular in high school and is all-around awesome. be more talkative, engaging, sociable; fun. take your fair share of the group's social spotlight. model yourself after the guys who are naturally high value. it's the textbook case of being a "value giver" vs. a "value taker"
/r/seduction08/08/14 02:09 PM
5

if you don't make the prolonged eye contact creepy, you're doing well enough, but you need exert more initiation. a majority of girls won't come to you after eye contact. consensus is that a shared glance is actually your window to go over to her to talk. get cracking opening sets, it's the fastest way to improve. go in strong and decisive; a group of girls will respect that. a good line for the situation you described is " you want me to come introduce myself or should we just keep flirting fro…
/r/seduction08/08/14 01:55 PM
0

can you go out with friends and talk to girls and make more friends ? if so then do that just get yourself out there as much as you can, seriously, only toddlers have it easier than college students socially
/r/seduction08/08/14 01:39 AM
1

good work, you seem on top of things. remember that sometimes you want to focus more on a single target for better results because women draw conclusions if they always see you talking to girls.( don't know how big the conference was.) only text the girl who's number you have to meet up, not for any other attention-seeking crap.
/r/seduction08/08/14 01:34 AM
2

it's very clear this isn't advice meant to find a serious relationship. it's not a horrible article, but yes, somewhat one-dimensional I'd say too. many girls will not respond to such an aggressive style
/r/seduction07/08/14 07:44 PM
3

night game is not for you.
/r/seduction07/08/14 07:16 PM
3

your anxiety is getting in the way. for results much more wide-reaching than just becoming a better conversationalist, you need to get rid of that first and foremost. now I'm not a psychiatrist, but I always recommend exposure-therapy. keeping finding things to say is actually not that difficult, because it's an integral part of how the human brain is hardwired. your mind makes associations whenever it gets even a sliver of input. you verbalize those and you are conversating. you get info back a…
/r/seduction07/08/14 04:13 PM
1

woah I hope the guy that posted there aren't any quality threads lately reads this. I've got to remember to link this when another " I can't just tell myself to be more confident " post pops up props
/r/seduction07/08/14 03:58 PM
3

with all the "thank you seddit" posts we get, I figured this was a given. and then there are the guys who don't like to brag too
/r/seduction07/08/14 11:11 AM
1

I am now unsure as to whether I should do these things, not do these things... or do these things more discretely from now on. mainly because there are some good traits described in there along with the manipulation
/r/seduction07/08/14 01:39 AM
1

best thing you're doing is consistently putting yourself out there. you're building the experience to sooner or later shrug off those nagging feelings and doubts, so don't worry about those. you'll become immune. you can just text "Hey it's ThePUA_Baddie , from in the street ……" she'll just assume she had forgotten your name good luck anyhow. rumor has it those chicks aren't easy
/r/seduction07/08/14 01:23 AM
1

hey, those questions are the easiest to answer. but that's just me, Zack_ Fair_ aiming to please. yeah it does sometimes suck that learning opportunities are less common than prompts for advice
/r/seduction06/08/14 11:19 PM
2

yes 100.00% . her pleasure is more important than mine. I think it's an ego thing
/r/seduction06/08/14 09:50 PM
1

yeah facebook is a bitch like that. but if you invite 100 people to a closed event you should be fine
/r/seduction06/08/14 08:50 PM
1

nope, not awkward if you present it right. make it obvious from the event page that you're inviting everyone and anyone, maybe make people able to also invite friends along. plenty of people host big parties and invite everyone they have on facebook, so no problem. the opposite would be inviting your close friends and then some hot girls you have as friends but don't often see; then it's too obvious what you're doing
/r/seduction06/08/14 08:30 PM
1

I'm also going to go ahead and recommend the sex-first route. only 1 in a million times the "FWB-pact" will come to exist before the first hook-up. usually it starts with 2 people doing it and then eventually because of "the place they are in right now" , which I kind of interpret as girl-code language for "he doesn't want to be my boyfriend [and I'm fine with it][but hey, this is better than nothing and who knows if i keep giving him the V he might come around]", because typically most guys lov…
/r/seduction06/08/14 08:25 PM
1

2 ways this can go and you'll know which it is after you text her 1) no reply or negative one : I may or may not have a boyfriend, but me telling you was my way of turning you down gently. thank you very much for the confidence boost and validation of letting me give you my number. I wish you the best in all your future endeavors. 2) positive reply. I may or may not have a boyfriend, we'll deal with that when I bring it up again. let's meet up so I can further screen you as a potential romantic …
/r/seduction06/08/14 05:16 PM
1

there are huge differences between the two. that's why "day game" and "night game" are basically two different subdivisions of seduction. yes, in a bar at 2am the social dynamics are radically different; girls know men will approach them, a smack on the ass or similar advanced kino is not unthinkable within the first approach as opposed to during the daytime, there's dancing and drinking and people are basically there to interact, whereas in the daytime their primary activity in the street is no…
/r/seduction06/08/14 05:04 PM
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counterproductive. increasing your social circle is vastly preferable to asking your friends to hook you up. some of the reasons: if you focus on making friends and broadening your social circle you will be the one in charge, gaining social experience instead of relying on your friends and getting a fish for one meal so to speak. if you make more friends you'll automatically meet more girls. even if a guest brings along his male friends, that doesn't mean that they won't introduce you to their g…
/r/seduction06/08/14 04:50 PM
5

ahh when in Rome. but seriously, here are your tips. look up the Dicarlo Escalation ladder for a very systematic overview of kino and phase shifting. essentially to kino right from the start of any interaction and get a subtle head start on building attraction, you exploit situations and gestures in which it is socially acceptable to touch strangers. then you work up from there. I like suggesting Mystery's "are you thinking about kissing me"-play to people who have difficulties going for the kis…
/r/seduction05/08/14 11:47 PM
2

article gives off a vibe like it is rather directed at women than men. if you don't want to have sex on the first date :] then again everything is agreeable enough. only exception is the sex talk for me too, I do that whenever I can get away with it. also I wish girls would stop bringing up their exes on the first date
/r/seduction05/08/14 11:34 PM
3

consider turning up the heat just a little bit more then. what I mean by this is, say you really want a girl "then and there" and not eventually, then you should make it a little more obvious what you're after. especially if girls tend to see you as "too/so nice". be more assertive in how you handle her ( think stereotypical seducers you see in shows on TV or in movies ), this way she should still want you, because you evidently already know how to win a girl over, but the way she looks at you w…
/r/seduction05/08/14 11:13 PM
3

well if you want to improve your game specifically and depending on how much money you have you could rent a room in a big city ( most capitals will do ) or even a suite, bring 2,3 friends and just go out every day/night. approach, keep a journal, learn from the experience. but hey, this is just me
/r/seduction05/08/14 11:00 PM
1

when cigarettes first became popular they were marketed as cool, sexy, you name it. some of this mentality still sticks with society today. look at old movies; all the smooth Hollywood actors smoked !
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:57 PM
2

kk if shit comes up and tivooo can't make one I'm next in line. I'm always the wingman
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:51 PM
1

don't go out with sarging as your main goal, because then you'll see the night as a failure if you don't meet your expectations. go out to have fun, it's much easier to accomplish. be more in the moment; if you see a pretty girl, then use what you know to have a go at her. imo this is a much healthier mindset than telling yourself you're going to approach a hot girl before even going into the bar.
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:21 PM
1

read it all. nice report man. you are blanking out on parts of your night because you are drinking too much. this is really me calling the kettle black, but try to limit your alcohol intake so you have more material to analyse the day after as well as to not forget the little yet important details ;) best thing you did all night was having a good laugh at your unsuccessful attempts and carying on shortly after. just like the pro's. oh and never pay for girls' drinks
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:05 PM
2

uhm.. where's the actual report though ?
/r/seduction05/08/14 03:47 PM
1

act as if you are very passionate about whatever you are talking. it makes you captivating. enthousiasm is contageous. crack a joke or two, have fun, tell a story you might have rehearsed beforehand. get the girl to talk about herself and react to that
/r/seduction04/08/14 05:48 PM
2

little things: make eye contact with people, say hi to random people, if you see someone doing something awesome give them a high5, ask where the bathroom is, if you see someone with a colourful drink tell them you want one too and ask them what it is, tell a random girl you like her /whatever/ . all of these are the smallest of steps that should help you build confidence and I imagine can all lead to a conversation.
/r/seduction04/08/14 05:37 PM
3

*fun *you *an alternative fuel source *a girl who is into anal *my mommy *make the most of the best years of my life
/r/seduction04/08/14 05:31 PM
1

pick one compliment and stick to it. Don't take no for an answer
/r/seduction04/08/14 05:26 PM
0

yeah, girls figure that shit out quick as hell and there will be talk about you amongst the girls of a certain circle, but why give a fuck I say ? "the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about" - Oscar Wilde if they can't deal with a guy who is comfortable with his identity as a ladiesman, then tough for them.
/r/seduction03/08/14 12:58 PM
2

holy shit if you're coming from something so counterintuitive to pickup as /r/foreveralone then you're going to have a lot of catching up to do, so to speak. best tailored tip for a beginner I can give you is don't get discouraged if you don't become a pussy magnet overnight if you're recovering from a foreveralone mentality
/r/seduction03/08/14 12:55 PM
6

insert yourself into the group as you normally would. "hey, look at me, I'm fun, I'm awesome, I don't care what you think. ladies want to be with me guys want to be like me" - alpha . if there is another alpha male in the group he will inevitably challenge you. now about 9/10 of times this will be subtle and all in good fun. these guys didn't get where they are by being massive douchebags. broadly speaking they will try to "take a jab" at you, "punk you", make a joke at your expense, etc. … to s…
/r/seduction03/08/14 12:15 AM
1

depends on how you're sitting there. whether you're sat there like a nervous rodent eating as quickly as he can, scanning the environment for threats or like a relaxed boss eating the shit out of his meal and not shying away from making eye contact with / smiling to the other patrons makes the world of difference. good subtle trick to be the latter : take up a lot of space; put your arm on the chair beside you for example
/r/seduction02/08/14 11:44 PM
1

just one obvious remark : why not switch out the "basic(=boring) questions" with interesting ones or statements ?
/r/seduction02/08/14 09:56 PM
10

can we stop with the snide comments towards guys who are a little, let's say, over-enthousiastical in their posts ? OP already got shit on yesterday by some douchebag; if we keep being so negative all the time we're going to discourage posts and FR's. "live and let live" I always say
/r/seduction02/08/14 09:35 PM
1

I'm not sure how often you've texted. personally I'd send one more text after one that didn't get a reply. if she doesn't reply then it's a pretty clear " piss off" edit: come to think about it , if I actually have options and it's not just part of my mindset I'll only text once
/r/seduction02/08/14 09:16 PM
1

in general, sure. but not on a first date in a park
/r/seduction02/08/14 03:48 PM
2

hand on thigh is certainly better imo. not just awkwardly putting it there while sitting next to her, but the move where you're both sitting, looking the same direction and you turn towards her to say something like you just realized it and then put your hand on her thigh before speaking often goes undetected
/r/seduction02/08/14 01:51 PM
1

write up something like " okay, l'll let you make it up to me " and mix in some " it's okay I understand / have been there "
/r/seduction01/08/14 09:23 PM
6

jeez, the "alpha as fuck" comment-guy even said he was new to /r/seddit , cut people some slack edit:this clown is even getting upvotes ? wow
/r/seduction01/08/14 08:28 PM
0

this thread is turning toxic as fuck really fast. Zack_ Fair_ is outta here ! haha the jump to open sounds fun. if you come out swinging like that with a nice smile to boot it'll take a cold heart to immediately shoot you down. what you've described all sounds good. how exactly did you grab her hand ? ideally - and this is just me - you would have wanted to jump to your feet and pull her on like an excited child would ( saying " aww don't be boring, what's the worst that could happen" to any dec…
/r/seduction01/08/14 08:25 PM
1

do you think it's possible that on some level you have "settled" for this type of woman and are either not completely comfortable or yourself around anything different ( read: more attractive ) if the answer is "no" then I'd say it's all about practice
/r/seduction01/08/14 08:14 PM
1

I've gotten to the point where knowledgeable enough to be my own advice, but before that it was the internet. [M] aside from just randomly talking with friends about dating
/r/seduction01/08/14 08:10 PM
1

well to women the holding hand thing is like a giant "THIS IS MY BOYFRIEND" - sign with neon lights around it, whilst we don't give that much of a damn about something like that. ' definitely in favor of the subtle kino here. the most you could go for here is for example putting your hand behind her on a bench. which leads me to my only remark. if you could have went to a bench without that crappy separation, then you should have done that. but of course if every bench at the park was that way….…
/r/seduction01/08/14 08:07 PM
1

first off, welcome, and you should definitely not be focusing your feelings on "girl B" instead of "girl B". this might seem like a way to cope, but it's just moving the problem around; it won't benefit you in the long run. you're much better off resetting your whole attitude and shifting the focus on yourself. when you can achieve satisfaction through your own actions instead of hoping/being dependent on those of girls you'll not only be better with women, you'll actually also be a more well-ro…
/r/seduction01/08/14 07:54 PM
0

UK girls are (notoriously) more easy than german girls. I am basing this mostly off of tourists and reputation to be honest, but still. that being said, you should absolutely not be making this decision from a seduction perspective. socially, I'd say the British have the edge, although the cold germans thing is mostly only a stereotype anymore nowadays
/r/seduction01/08/14 07:33 PM
2

just still go to bars, but try to set up dates instead of F-closes. other than that what is there really to do at night ?
/r/seduction01/08/14 07:30 PM
1

Yes and if they have sex, usually they kiss too
/r/seduction01/08/14 04:27 PM
3

that's rather conservative. people end first dates in bed all the time
/r/seduction01/08/14 03:19 PM
1

I make my own luck ;)
/r/seduction31/07/14 10:19 PM
1

I disagree with the other two guys. if you weren't the most popular guy in school, then that is probably how those people remember you. you want to change that asap and show them the new and improved you. that's why I think cocky/funny wasn't a terrible choice. yes, hitting on a waitress is one the worst things to do, but you did kind of "know" her, so it wasn't some random dude hitting on her like she is used to. depending on how long you guys talked, shooting a " hey, we should get coffee some…
/r/seduction31/07/14 09:34 PM
7

my best guess is her feeling shame for being such a "slut" and wanting nothing more to do with the source of those feelings. sure know it's happened to me before. sometimes it's better to not give in to temptation to do some shady stuff so you can bang her properly at a more convenient time/place. think it could be an explanation ?
/r/seduction31/07/14 09:27 PM
2

oldest trick in the book
/r/seduction31/07/14 09:19 PM
1

keep as many open relationships as you want until you find one girl that makes you realize you actually enjoy her company. then go exclusive with her. it's what I (would) do. this way you'll build up the experience you need anyway
/r/seduction31/07/14 08:25 PM
1

it's not an "indirect approach" routine; he's indirectly asking something . something that happens to be very direct. I think you misunderstood the tl;dr
/r/seduction31/07/14 08:07 PM
5

crap, I have a date with an art student monday and this is brilliant. thank you, will use. have some doges
/r/seduction31/07/14 07:36 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/tw7uc/seoul_need_advice_on_the_pickup_environment/ this is what I could find. also change your name ,Cloud
/r/seduction30/07/14 03:50 PM
5

I love how you put the most emphasis on "while smiling" . so clutch. common mistake is going in all smooth like you would at night, but that just rings the creep alert
/r/seduction22/07/14 08:18 PM
1

qualifying a super hot girl-especially if it's the first thing you say- isn't always advisatory, but yes, I'm nitpicking now
/r/seduction22/07/14 08:15 PM
2

standard response to this is that you're overthinking it because the deal is it really is that simple . standard tip ? treat the girl like you would your best friend. other suggestions include analyzing what "being yourself" actually means, again, when around friends or other people who you are yourself with; keeping a much more empty/level head and acting in the moment; getting more experience so you won't be as nervous; going phrase by phrase and always responding with the first thing that com…
/r/seduction22/07/14 07:28 PM
0

you're confusing attractiveness with beauty. the latter you are born with.
/r/seduction22/07/14 07:09 PM
2

what I do is pay for dinner and when we're out for drinks later that night I tell them they're paying
/r/seduction22/07/14 07:07 PM
1

just about what all the other guys say. essentially, you need to stand out. distinguish yourself from the other guys. the things you listed can often be enough
/r/seduction22/07/14 04:05 PM
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Aesthetic beauty can be taught, but having a beautiful personality cannot lol what ? that's some far-going "beauty is on the inside" crap. if this were true then all ugly dudes should just line up and some guy could teach them how to be handsome. pretty sure you got those two mixed up
/r/seduction22/07/14 04:01 PM
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we have to deal with this bullshit because if we bang a lot of chicks we are awesome, but if women do it they are sluts. that's how I see it at least. furthermore, you really shouldn't be paying for everything if you don't want to or can't afford it
/r/seduction22/07/14 03:56 PM
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social proof is about being friends with everyone and being the center or attention, knowing the people working behind the bar, merging sets, etc. etc. this has nothing to do with what she is accusing you of. your social proof is actually helping you in your situation, because all the friends you have are sticking up for you, saying you're a nice guy. regularly testing the boundaries of social proof myself, I have yet to experience "too much" of it. I think it's one of those things where the mor…
/r/seduction01/07/14 07:03 PM
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how to be a social butterfly when you're not… an often asked question here. it's not the easiest thing if you're not hardwired to be this way, but what the hell, give this a shot; when I'm with people I'm fun because I'm happy. getting away from all the shit in life while you are with friends makes me happy. it makes me also live in the moment. for a period of time you're "free" in a way. so take advantage of it. be happy, be positive and laugh. laughter is the key to being "the fun guy" . when …
/r/seduction01/07/14 04:16 PM
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it's stupid, but girls can't ever give a straight "no" . instead they give some bullshit reason. when they get flakey I personally force their hand to either say yes or no, but I honestly don't even know if this is resulting in a net gain for me flake-wise. like everyone says, happens to everyone and if you are doing something wrong it's not to be found in the description of your behaviour in this post, but in your first encounters.
/r/seduction01/07/14 01:25 AM
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some stuff here on the subject. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/29enld/at_parties_if_i_like_a_set_should_i_stick_with_it/ how would you talk to all your different friends and acquaintances at a party ?
/r/seduction01/07/14 12:31 AM
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yeah, why not ? it's a date. you are "romantically invested" in each other so sexuality is bound to come up. not to mention how it's good for building rapport, setting the mood, flirting, getting her to feel comfortable with you,……………...
/r/seduction30/06/14 11:43 PM
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in my experience a nice smile and high energy are most important. go to opener for me is just a combination of those things and " hi, you look nice today. I wanted to come over and meet you [because I'm a pretty spontaneous guy] "
/r/seduction30/06/14 11:40 PM
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hey dude, really splendid article. this is the nuance between alpha and "frat douche alpha" guys tend to overlook . especially the part about conflict is refreshing. people forget conflict is a form of validation seeking. a real alpha doesn't even register some loser's bullshit and brushes it off his shoulder like dust. you stay higher, you don't steep down
/r/seduction30/06/14 01:28 PM
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after using this you're going to have a hard time escalating because you are, just like you say, using tricks to get into her place. high probability of ending up in the LOL-y situation of coming out of the bathroom and her standing there by the open door with a "now GTFO"-look on her face. after all she just expects you to use the bathroom. be more direct. ask her to show you something you talked about during the date, say you could really go for a nightcap or some tea right about now or just s…
/r/seduction30/06/14 01:15 PM
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people on subreddits without any clue about this stuff - cough /r/askreddit- often say " don't worry, it will happen for you soon enough like it does for everyone " . funny thing is, it just might be true; you can easily stumble your way into a girl's bed as soon as tomorrow. that's life. the even better news is : pickup acts like a katalyst for your progress. getting a girlfriend or a one night stand is up to you but I reccomend both. obviously only one of them needs to know you're a virgin. do…
/r/seduction30/06/14 12:00 AM
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so you mean the " I have a boyfriend " - shit test ? check the sidebar ! also if you think she is lying , you can just call bullshit with a nice smile and you won't look bad. what I always do is ask her to introduce me if he's a nice guy
/r/seduction29/06/14 11:06 PM
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a tough one. many factors to consider. looks (all handsome guys need to do is put on something slimming and discreet) , the degree of craziness of what you want to wear , plus some people can magically pull off wacky clothing and still look "boss". final verdict : depends on the setting. if you're just going to a nightclub, play safe. if you're going to a concert or a birthday party; knock yourself out
/r/seduction29/06/14 11:03 PM
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don't apologize for it. apologies imply there being something wrong with what you have done. your reaction should be more like " so what ?" personally , when people call me a playboy or whatever, I just say that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. if someone acts like running game is a bad thing ask them explicitly what they think is wrong with it and go from there, you have the truth on your side after all, there is nothing wrong with what we do.
/r/seduction29/06/14 10:08 PM
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because you don't have all the time in the world when you've approached a girl before she decides weather or not she wants your business. there are two ways for going about this as I see it. either you memorize some of the stuff you described or you get such great inner game that you do it naturally
/r/seduction29/06/14 09:16 PM
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as opposed to only talking to one set or , even worse, staying with the same girl(s) the whole night ? hell no, introduce yourself to all the people you want. it will do wonders for your social proof and you'll only improve your people skills in doing so. regarding "re-entry", an easy trick is to always be the one that closes off an interaction, so you can tell them " don't worry I'll be right back " and then of course go back whenever you feel like it
/r/seduction29/06/14 09:12 PM
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strawberries and molten chocolate. so simple, yet brilliant
/r/seduction29/06/14 09:06 PM
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he's going to miss out on lots of tail if he's going wait for them come to him. and girls are intimidated by beauty, same as us. so lots of scenarios nothing is going to happen there. I'm totally with you 'till the smile. but then he should either go over or gesture them to come
/r/seduction29/06/14 09:00 PM
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yes, no problem. just as long as you're not the thing that is "sad" ( aka "pity party" ) . and don't whine or be negative, nobody likes that either. but there's nothing wrong with showing some emotional maturity, especially since for the most part you'll be clowning around and joking with your target
/r/seduction29/06/14 08:54 PM
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nothing causes this it's just essentially a part of life. sometimes things go your way, sometimes they don't
/r/seduction28/06/14 10:33 PM
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obviously
/r/seduction28/06/14 10:32 PM
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try to win her as an ally early on. if that doesn't work, when she has a go out you turn towards her briefly and say " you're mean." . no girl wants to be outed as a bitch. you can also ask her friend why her friend hates you or if she is having a bad day. if she does the whisper in her ear thing ask the girl if she has just told her how much she likes you or if she has fallen in love with you or something. don't get into a fight, that way nobody is going to win. if you have nothing else to lose…
/r/seduction27/06/14 01:21 AM
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I've never understood guys who go out to pick up girls. as a cherry on top it is just setting yourself up for failure. I go out to have fun first and foremost. I never fail at that. and if picking up a hottie seems like a fun thing to do at the time, then I'll do that.
/r/seduction26/06/14 11:51 PM
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this can help typically a girl is never there to meet guys as sole purpose but , girls are always open to meeting the right guy. if she wants to be all Lady Gaga about it and just dance, then don't worry, she'll let you know.
/r/seduction26/06/14 11:48 PM
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apparently I also don't write these because they become long as fuck. wrap it up Zack ! I decide I feel like dancing. and I want to dance on the runway. all I need is a girl. sure enough there was one dancing with her friend close to it. I'd say she was a 7. I wasn't particularly fond of her legs. anyway the guys say she's bangable and I am nothing if not influenceable by peer pressure. I make my way over and tell her why I'm there straight away. she seems persuadeable enough, but playing it har…
/r/seduction26/06/14 11:41 PM
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yup, there's your problem. find a nice girl , not a typical hot girl and game her like you would any other.
/r/seduction26/06/14 08:22 PM
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have you had a girlfriend recently ? having someone who appreciates you all the time instead of just for one night may go a long to help feeling lovable.because I think you're suffering from the burnout of one too many meaningless one-night-stands and similar superficial crap. been there. anyway it's all in your head man; you're letting your male friends get to you who acting in a way quite possibly influenced by jealousy.
/r/seduction26/06/14 06:56 PM
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telling you you're going to bribe her or otherwise using material stuff to get her to do what you want is never a good idea, not really even joking. also : deadlines are your friend. she sounds like a total tease, you need to counter this by giving exact times and places or she's going to get you to play her game. you can even explicitly say that it's your last chance to meet. otherwise you can and should move on. but hey, the other stuff is absolutely up to snuff. maybe use some less smiles, bu…
/r/seduction26/06/14 06:50 PM
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you better keep us posted on the date !
/r/seduction26/06/14 06:34 PM
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basically you want to fly a Boeing in a couple days and are walking into the instructor's office today. I'm sorry man but it doesn't and can't work like that. we're not magicians ( although I am a strong proponent of magic tricks :P) ; this shit takes commitment and effort. we can't just turn you from your description of yourself into a sex magnet overnight. that being said, I'd be glad to try and help. are you familiar with the basics ? I'd definitely recommend a crash course. use the sidebar, …
/r/seduction26/06/14 12:00 PM
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cars are not kino-friendly places. best you can go for is hand on thigh or to brush the side of her arm with your hand ( "are you cold ?" is a tried and tested way to do this ).
/r/seduction26/06/14 11:45 AM
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I'm an asshole and a ton of other things people dislike, that doesn't mean I can't be confident. you need to disconnect certain aspects of yourself ( especially those you can't change ) from your self esteem. you don't feel bad about yourself for not being a bodybuilder or a millionaire, do you ? life's a bitch, and it deals plenty of bad hands but you have to play them anyway. don't beat yourself up, other people will always do it for you. like anyone who thinks they should give you shit. fuck …
/r/seduction25/06/14 02:40 PM
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this isn't a prompt to start ripping on other people, but the tip that you should always believe you are the most awesome person in the room
/r/seduction25/06/14 02:21 PM
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don't worry it's a subjective matter anyway. and yes haha the book shows how much of an assclown he is :D .
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:34 PM
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I like how you hated "The Game" because it has no message and your point 4 is almost verbatim the message behind "The Game" that you have missed. but hey, besides that, good post man. you're not alone: pickup's focus has shifted and the majority feels just like you do. outer game is quite "out" indeed and inner game is "in. I personally don't pick sides but I do deplore the total neglect of outer game. I mean, come on, what kind of grown ass adult doesn't like magic tricks ? inspiring post, can'…
/r/seduction23/06/14 06:26 PM
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reverse the problem. tall girls are used to blowing insecure guys off because they are too short. instead acting like you normally prefer shorter girls but just might make an exception for her is a classic trick. honestly it shouldn't even come up though if you don't make a point in bringing it up yourself. game and personality and looks overall are way more important than height. just charm them with your latino heat and you'll be well on your way.
/r/seduction23/05/14 08:51 PM
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the pics of the app gave it away :P
/r/seduction13/05/14 10:37 PM
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that's hysterical xD also: w00t, dutch :D !
/r/seduction13/05/14 09:31 PM
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easy. set yourself apart from them in any way you can. wear something nice, don't hover like them but walk towards your target with a purpose, act less needy/horny than them. but the real way you're going to set yourself apart from them is during a conversation. every word from " hi, how are you?" on is your proof that you aren't the average numbskull. go as far as even asking them point blank how many of these noobs/nerds/whatever have tried to hit on her/them already tonight. and of course I t…
/r/seduction13/05/14 09:28 PM
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well as in all my hypotheticals the default is a pua who is competent and can read the girl to some degree. I certainly understand your example
/r/seduction13/05/14 07:20 PM
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"go away creep" vis a vis " I'm sorry, I'd really rather be alone right now"
/r/seduction13/05/14 07:19 PM
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fuck this, if you don't have the common courtesy to not act like a bitch then you sure as hell are one ,regardless of circumstances and how you normally act. I'm not going to blame myself for one second if she acts like a total cunt. if she doesn't want to talk to strangers right now there are plenty of well-mannered ways of communicating this.
/r/seduction13/05/14 05:28 PM
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the reason you come from the side and not from behind is to not startle her. if you are both walking towards each other or at least facing each other and she can see you coming this isn't a problem. you want to be "confrontational" here, it's part of decisive body language. your body have to be an unmoveable wall instead of a gate that will open to let her through.
/r/seduction13/05/14 05:22 PM
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yeah, I'm kind of sad the era of inner game is casting many things aside.
/r/seduction13/05/14 01:50 PM
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I really don't understand this. I mean, I understand your point, but it takes two to tango. I'm baffled by how many people are out there who have no problems with staring down strangers for more than 10 second at a time. sometimes I play this game to see wtf is wrong with people.
/r/seduction13/05/14 01:38 PM
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the lines the other guy said are fine, simple , to-the-point openers. you can use those, but try adding " excuse me " and " hold on a second" or something in front of them. these may seem contradictory ( one being polite and one being very forward) but you need both of these. one is just common courtesy and the other adresses the fact that she was moving ( perhaps even quickly) away from you and forces her to either stop or fly right by; no awkward lingering forward motion you have to keep up wi…
/r/seduction13/05/14 01:18 PM
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asking point blank is not the way to go I think. rather you should try to get in a situation with two women who are as sexually interested in you as possible and then sexualize the situation ( traditional way being the double massage of course , but I can see things like truth or dare working too ).
/r/seduction13/05/14 01:01 PM
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and be sure to remind her of it too ! so many guys act in a way that girls think it's okay to behave like this nowadays. there's a difference in walking away as the rejected or as the rejector. keep your head held high, bounce TFO and she'll get the message.
/r/seduction13/05/14 12:57 PM
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never full suit ( as I would like to ) because it's just illogical at college bars, but I sometimes wear my blazer above my T-shirt or button-up shirt and it's totally an asset. really sets you apart
/r/seduction13/05/14 12:53 PM
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you have to make your intentions clear then. if a girl knows you are interested in her romantically she has the choice to either shut you down or go along with it and stick her feet in to feel how the water is. if you're an interesting guy and you get her genuinely intrigued by you, you'll help eachother on the road to flirting. a common mistake is a guy trying to seduce a girl, but her having no clue about this at all and just reacting to him in a friendly way while thinking "wtf is this guy do…
/r/seduction12/05/14 04:19 PM
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something that has stuck with me ever since I started ( now that I don't suffer from AA anymore I use it to get in state ) is going up to a girl with a horrendous , sure-to-fail opener or with the definite intention to get shot down . if it backfires and you seem to get a hook, then you can either roll with it or push your luck. afterwards have a good hearty laugh at yourself and move on. so much fun
/r/seduction12/05/14 03:17 PM
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even though people seem to refer to this advice less and less nowadays, seduction is still very much about being "alpha as fuck" :) on a sidenote, I wish these videos would get to the point a little quicker ...
/r/seduction12/05/14 03:13 PM
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it's just people in general who don't make eye contact easily nowadays. I've had to play the eye contact game on the streets for the longest time before I was less bothered by looking at someone right in the face.
/r/seduction12/05/14 02:56 PM
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I'm a firm dinner date supporter. no reason not to do it if you're smooth enough to keep conversation going. I don't use tinger though and you pretty much have to meet a girl first to know it's not going to be a borefest. any date is crap if you run out of things to say to eachother, not just dinners.
/r/seduction08/05/14 11:07 AM
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expanding your social circe is a good tip if you want to meet and date soemeone instead of the one night stands. there is no downside !
/r/seduction08/05/14 11:03 AM
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that would be all I need to call her by the wrong name for the rest of my natural life
/r/seduction08/05/14 10:57 AM
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there is a difference between the "EY BBY WAN SUM FUK"-face and the " I bet you're a naughty girl"-face . so yes, it is a good thing. for the most part it sounds like you need to get comfortable talking to people you don't know. you sound like a friend of mine. he just shuts down out of his comfort zone. not necessarily unnerving or creepy , but just the usual one word answers and apparent disinterest untill people lose interest. do you think you can improve on that by going to more parties and …
/r/seduction08/05/14 10:53 AM
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it is. but then again, who cares ?
/r/seduction08/05/14 10:36 AM
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she probably has a thicker skin when it comes to teasing and what she'll like to do on a date will differ too I guess. still, don't underestimate every girl's wish to be a little princess at least sometimes.
/r/seduction06/05/14 05:25 PM
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seriously people need to get this. so many posts of guys complaining that they are demotivated and can't seem to improve after a couple of weeks. you're going at it wrong if you need to see instant results. like most great things in life it takes time and effort to -gradually- become a pro. I've just had a terrible month only getting #closes which I can't use anyway cause of my finals soon and a kiss-close with my ex because I have been ignoring her lately. ( if I had to guess I'd say it's becau…
/r/seduction06/05/14 05:15 PM
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it's basically the same as a link to an article OP didn't write. we have those all the time. if I formulated my reply on some blog and not in the comment section, would you not read it ?
/r/seduction06/05/14 10:28 AM
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you have to realise that as long as you aren't breaking any laws or stepping out of the realm of normal human beings with your behaviour , you're not doing anything wrong and therefore shouldn't give a shit. it's all down to experience. try "exposure therapy" ; think of a couple of actions or activities you would normally give massive amounts of shit about and just fucking do them. ( you may have to start small depending on your level of self-consciousness ) . giving shits boils down to caring w…
/r/seduction06/05/14 10:25 AM
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pretty crap imo, but can definitely work. I just prefer the normal way by miles.
/r/seduction06/05/14 10:12 AM
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well I only use it as a wing to un-alpha myself but it works nicely. it's my #1 go-to ploy when winging someone with limited game and charisma.
/r/seduction05/05/14 09:55 PM
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off the record I'd just say take the guy who wants to go the most or the one you'll have the most fun with. the person who is going to help you get laid the most is already going anyways. ( no, not Jesus, you if you hadn't caught on yet ) that being said it can be very nice to have a wingman who knows a thing or two about the game. but even if you take the handsome guy who is rather oblivious you can still find ways to spin it. as long as you show the girls that you are actually the leader ( ~al…
/r/seduction05/05/14 08:11 PM
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body language can go a long way in conveying this, because i think sexual aggressiveness is mostly communicated by body language anyway. you probably do this already but, stuff like leaning backwards, trying to adapt a more comfortable than eager pose, limiting kino,... for example, however your seating arrangement may be, try picking a position/ body language stance for lack of better words and let her adapt to it instead of inching closer or to a more intimate stance. also I totally agree that…
/r/seduction05/05/14 07:49 PM
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let's agree to disagree
/r/seduction05/05/14 04:19 PM
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/r/sex/top penis length isn't an issue. important: relax ( don't do it ) , enjoy the experience and don't freak out over every minor thing. it's unadvisory to drink beforehand as well. if she's that much older she'll probably be accommodating. look up and memorize some erogenous zones. pro tip: the largest one is the brain. don't get tunnel vision on the most interesting one if you know what I mean. foreplay and communication are the most important things for good sex with women and most often o…
/r/seduction05/05/14 04:15 PM
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Watch a shitload of sitcoms. Friends, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and the Simpsons are what made me the funny guy I am today. I'm convinced you can "grow" a sense of humor.
/r/seduction05/05/14 02:48 PM
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absolute female propaganda bullshit so many men sadly buy into. the brilliancy of the system makes me rage all the harder. women trick well-intentioned AFC's into believing this nonsense so they completely dedicate their "time, effort, putting her first,..." , and ofcourse let's not forget, automatically their money and gifts to women. obviously this gets them nowhere, but if they dare make a peep about being emotionally abused or disheartened about being in the friendzone or whatever, then ofco…
/r/seduction05/05/14 02:40 PM
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this gets us nowhere.
/r/seduction05/05/14 01:27 PM
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I suppose this doens't help you much, but, whatever springs to mind really... it's very dependent on how she responds and what information she offers back. when you completely eliminate AA you can be 100% in the moment and simply verbalise your stream of consciousness. definitely don't think of it as knowing what you're going to say , but more just saying things once you are talking to her. if you're enthusiastic or interesting enough you'll build rapport with her anyway. there are so many ways …
/r/seduction03/05/14 05:16 PM
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the hug : 3) apology hug . ofcourse you don't really apologise , but after a neg ( or whatever you want to call it ) and she gets all offended you say she looks cute when she is mad, go " awwww" and tell het to bring it in. the spin : pretty classic, basic. for those girls that want to be a princess. no idea about the success rate. some dude described his move not too long ago on here when getting introduced to a girl or whenever holding her hand to hold her gaze and graze the top of her hand wi…
/r/seduction03/05/14 05:02 PM
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"hey, do you wanna come out to the darkest place I can think of in the middle of nowhere, at night, alone with me on a date :) ?" this is what women will hear when you make a well-intentioned proposal.
/r/seduction03/05/14 04:40 PM
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well erm... pickup ? is that not an acceptable answer :D ? anything where you get to meet people really. maybe a sport, book club, improv classes are also great I hear, because they train you to think on your feet.
/r/seduction03/05/14 12:26 PM
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what advice we could give you is advice you already have floating around unmaterialized in your own head: game every girl you meet in the same way. if you can pick up a random hookup girl, then you can also pick up your crush; you've got the tools. there isn't much we can say that will make you treat girl A the same way as girl B . your problem is much like a solved math equation. X-game works on girlsA and on girlsB, yet you use X-game on girlsA and Y-game on girlsB. why ? spot the differences …
/r/seduction03/05/14 12:23 PM
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I think I would feel like putting on a show if I was certain someone was watching me "perform" . then again this might not be as positive for someone who doesn't like the attention and envy, but honestly if you get seem talking to pretty girls often the envy and admiration becomes something you're used to.
/r/seduction03/05/14 12:14 PM
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be a gentleman, not a lackey. I get opening the door, but following her to her car and unloading the rest of her crap ? seriously ? next thing you know she'll invite you over for tea when she needs to move her furniture around. don't overdo it. women are evil fucking clever . when they say stuff like "oh my, you are the nicest guy I've ever met!!" you think you are scoring points but that's how they lure you in. next thing you know she's fucking some frat dude who called her fat and you're wonde…
/r/seduction02/05/14 04:59 PM
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I often contemplate pointing out how impolite it is to not answer a question / text . I always decide to do something infinitely worse to her : never letting her hear from me again.
/r/seduction02/05/14 04:37 PM
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just be honest. well, not "shotgun to the face"- honest, but I think that all the shit we have to put up with in the pursuit of women entitles us to at least being able to say " well, it was nice meeting you, but I need to be on my way now (and I don't think we are clicking very well ) " . give any girl at least an hour of your time and if after that you feel your brain trying to leave your skull through your ears, you can drop this line with a completely serene conscience.
/r/seduction02/05/14 04:08 PM
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I figure LMR is the Moriarty to my Holmes. always have had to deal with it in one form or another . sometimes it's an inconvenience, sometimes it's a roadblock. but somehow it's always there. waiting for me.
/r/seduction02/05/14 04:01 PM
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Tinder sure as fuck isn't my comfort zone, so technically....
/r/seduction02/05/14 02:18 PM
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"just be yourself" gets thrown around a lot. couple of words away from actual good and useful advice
/r/seduction02/05/14 03:17 AM
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I was about to rage when he looked like he was hailing a cab to leave :D
/r/seduction02/05/14 03:16 AM
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women do not deal with the world logically, therefore certain actions will have different or the opposite effect that was expected and their reactions may seem stupid. understand how a woman thinks; understand seduction.
/r/seduction01/05/14 09:21 PM
1

explain this link between self-respect and breaking up in person.
/r/seduction01/05/14 09:15 PM
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it's not for me either, but it's still seduction. not covering the hottest e-dating commodity would be a gap for seddit.
/r/seduction01/05/14 08:48 PM
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totally man, totally.
/r/seduction01/05/14 06:40 PM
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you sound really into pickup, good for you getting that close and having a great night ! I'd advise against rubbing an erection on a girl even if you did kiss / grind / dance . partially from a civilised point of view and partially because it kind of gives away some of your control and gives the girl a certain "power" over you. yeah, to fuck or not to fuck a drunk slut is a decision many of us have made. depends on how you're feeling really, there is no wrong choice. about the younger girls ; yo…
/r/seduction01/05/14 03:34 PM
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daygame is harder, so don't worry 2-3 /10 is still fine you'll get better
/r/seduction01/05/14 02:55 PM
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when in doubt use this line : " miss XYZ , are you flirting with me " combined with a fake outraged, coy smile. This is good because either she replies "no" back or she says anything else but "no" and you've just dropped some killer flirting right back at her.
/r/seduction01/05/14 02:54 PM
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telling guys to actually be "creepy" haha. I hope everybody is going to understand you define the word somewhat differently and more neutrally. I for one liked the advcie
/r/seduction30/04/14 10:50 AM
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very good. often I don't know how to help these guys. can we please change deletion policy for guys asking for advice in specific situations too ? oftentimes they provide great opportunity for theory. plus people won't stop mistakenly posting to seddit instead of askseddit.
/r/seduction30/04/14 10:44 AM
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look at it as an IOI
/r/seduction30/04/14 10:39 AM
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also remember that a girl with her back turned towards you is quite possibly more interested than her friend in front of her facing towards you if they just moved close to where you are at for seemingly no reason.
/r/seduction30/04/14 10:38 AM
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it's better because you will be less stressed about it and act more in the moment. women sense it when you are desperate or have a negative disposition. do you know about outcome independence ? that is basically " not giving a fuck" . if you act like you are not phased by dry spells and bad results and just keep on trucking not only will you eventually convince yourself, which is a goal in itself, but women will also respond better to you if they notice you don't care. the "why" not to give a fu…
/r/seduction28/04/14 11:10 AM
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can't you just do this with a friend ? seems easier than an internet stranger
/r/seduction27/04/14 05:28 PM
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you can put several girlfriended chicks "on hold" until they break up. she needs to know 100% certain that you are interested in her romantically and are not bulshitting around with let's-just-be-friends', because everything or nothing is how you roll. so then she can either say "not right now I'm in a relationship" or in some cases " okay what the hell" . in any case this way she will not think of you as a friend when she becomes available again and you will be in the picture as revenge-sex/ ne…
/r/seduction27/04/14 05:25 PM
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brush off, move on. ain't nobody alive who only has success, regardless what field
/r/seduction27/04/14 05:16 PM
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typical. girls will often not act according to how they really feel and then when they suddenly do start to the change in behaviour will confuse men. odds are she had her taste and now has decided she doens't like the (your) flavour. force her hand. send her a text asking if you two are still on for the rave becase you have another friend who is eager to use your extra ticket. in your next phrase casually specify her gender (female ofcourse) by referring to her as "her" or "she".
/r/seduction27/04/14 05:12 PM
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dude, I'm a pretty good wingman, but I can't take my friends' dick and shove it up some girls' private parts for him. that's not what a wingman is for. most you can expect from a wing is an opener, an introduction, a K-close if he has some game ( ran the old " 3 pictures " - routine for my best friend couple of days ago ; still works admirably ) , but there comes a point where you are on your own from there on. my advice would be to improve your own game and not that of your wing.
/r/seduction27/04/14 04:29 PM
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if you think you need to believe the product you're trying to sell is actually high quality instead of faking it, the easy thing to do is improve your product. use all the downtime you have now as a head start. make a big list of things you want to change about yourself for the better and make every day about attaining some of those goals. it's not about becoming perfect, it's knowing that you are moving forward that gives you the confidence you think you are missing anyway. you can always impro…
/r/seduction27/04/14 04:14 PM
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yeah if anything, the advice is one thing, but the comparison really provides some perspective. what the hell are you afraid of if you have AA, it's not like you are liberating Normandy
/r/seduction27/04/14 12:33 PM
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not giving a fuck. I know what you're thinking; not as easy as it sounds (so I can elaborate if you want), but it works.
/r/seduction27/04/14 11:46 AM
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best advice , not really a technique, for success in a relationship is to remain your own man. do not become a moon orbiting your significant other; it's a mistake, instead keep making strides forward in other aspects of your life , like professionally or socially. you'll bore your SO ( and friends ! ) if she becomes your sole focus in life
/r/seduction26/04/14 04:36 PM
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if you fill your head with the solutions you call "temporary" it becomes natural to think that way after a while. worked for me. the inverse is also true. why are you relapsing ? because you are letting the wrong ideas back into your mind and considering them. don't . imagine you already had a bunch of success with seduction if your lack of results is bothering you. ( which it shouldn't by the way ) you'll get where you want to be much faster if you project the right image of yourself
/r/seduction26/04/14 04:31 PM
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girls love this kind of behaviour for validation. as soon as you catch on to the game drop them like a bag of bricks or become the unavailable party yourself. think of it as giving them a chance rather than getting one, you'll be more sparse with your planning in a good way and you'll move one more easily too
/r/seduction26/04/14 04:21 PM
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depending on how you look at it approaching girls is a great ( wink ) or pretty bad idea. try being sociable with your girlfriends' girlfriends. you're fucked either way if your gf is the jealous type though
/r/seduction26/04/14 04:01 PM
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i feel you man. look at it as if you're actually putting in too much effort in. remember it's supposed to be a hobby and not a job. most of all it's supposed to be fun ! this means most of all you should be having fun out there. try not to get hung up on perceived lack of progress and just go with the flow. don't "keep score" , you'll be more relaxed and in the moment. if you remember anything at all : don't go out with the main purpose being hitting on girls, focus on your own enjoyment of the …
/r/seduction26/04/14 03:53 PM
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a twirl, actual dancing, grab both her hands and place them on your neck, entangle fingers, palm readings edit: arm over shoulder
/r/seduction25/04/14 04:37 PM
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honestly there is only so much you can do as a wingman. you're already fixing him up a date. just treat the situation like a normal night out with friends. if he is interested or has any game he is ( or they are ) bound to steal a couple of moments alone together to bond and stuff.
/r/seduction25/04/14 03:29 PM
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this really hits home for me because lately I've been so busy with college I've barely been able to visit seddit or go sarging. no more ! upvote !
/r/seduction25/04/14 03:26 PM
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if you are anything like your description you can talk about it with anyone of your male friends and 9/10 will be more than happy to help you. if you want to be more discrete ask your bff to suggest such an arrangement to a guy you both know seemingly without you knowing but because " she knows what you need " . if the guy hypothetically agrees you can go for it and it will be like your best friend set you guys up instead of it being your idea
/r/seduction25/04/14 03:17 PM
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try to involve girls in things you do find interesting. chances are they will think it's a nice change of scenery from your usual dates at coffee shops and other things and places you find boring. lacking that, even if you're doing something that you might regard as a waste of time, try to at least steer the conversation towards topics you enjoy talking about. there's bound to be plentiful of those.
/r/seduction25/04/14 03:08 PM
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people love hearing their own name and it's on plenty of lists of things you can do to get a person to like you more. would advise you to change your game in this regard. nicknames, for other reasons, are good too
/r/seduction16/04/14 12:59 PM
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okay, so what do you call your friends ?
/r/seduction16/04/14 12:58 PM
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you're already doing the right things. just don't label it an awkward silence. it's only awkward if you make it awkward. next time it happens, don't think " boy this is awkward ... " , because it will show in your demeanor that you are not 100% comfortable. instead, think " good, she STFU for a couple secs, now I can enjoy this silence "
/r/seduction16/04/14 12:44 PM
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tell her to go for the other guys . I am not even kidding. do you seriously imagine her thanking you for the dating advice and going along with it ? of course not. she knows you dig her and you are displaying the highest quantum of detachment which attracts her as we know. she is going to either make up some crap reason why she doesn't think she likes him or try to make you jealous. you can easily deal with both. a line like " oh yeah, I bet he's the romantic type and will buy you flowers and ch…
/r/seduction16/04/14 04:58 AM
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halfway through the week send something interesting and set a date and time for you appointment in the same message
/r/seduction16/04/14 02:39 AM
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better : " whatever you do, do it passionately and go 100% ( because you are the man) " exhibit A . besides being comedy gold, this conveys more than I can put into theory. I don't care if you pissed your pants in public, you strut that shit like a boss.
/r/seduction15/04/14 11:03 PM
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I'd answer , but you're just going to get moved to /r/askseddit. in short; you might've build more attraction than you think if you have played hard to get , albeit unknowingly, for all these years. throw a dog a bone , odds are she'll bite. make it clear enough you are for real this time though ( without being needy ) or she might go in " I'm not falling for that one again" mode
/r/seduction15/04/14 10:57 PM
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don't ask her out. super low chance of agreement. simply say that you would actually like to meet your fb- "friend" so you can become actual three dimensional friends . or make up some shit about your only-IRL-friending-policy on facebook and hint that you might delete her if you guys don't get to know each other ( girls hate "losing" guys / mini-rejections ) and tell her to be at "event_everyone_always_goes_where_she'll_probably_go_too" so you two can get acquainted. escalate there and not soon…
/r/seduction15/04/14 09:54 PM
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here's an idea; if you're so worried about your first approach, then approach a totally different random girl first. this way you won't be nervous about your "first time" . not that you should really care either way ;)
/r/seduction15/04/14 09:47 PM
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if you haven't been intimate together you are not even close to a "half relationship" , you are barely at a tenth. from how you describe it it looks like you have been friendzoned hardcore. that "half a relationship" you refer to is you being her emotional baggage mule and source of validation, sorry but you need to hear this. abandon friend-zone-ship immediately ! if you on the other hand already have had anything resembling intercourse but chose to omit it for discretion or something, the othe…
/r/seduction15/04/14 09:44 PM
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yeah, this is common. when you start to lose or have lost all your former barriers to approaching women ( like AA, not knowing what to say, fear of rejection,...) and it becomes the easiest, most mundane thing in the world to you, you get a drastically increased urge to open girls and sets. I like to think it's the old AFC-you shouting in your head, who always wished to be what/who you have become and would open every girl he saw if he only could. I've totally had (have ?) it too. Ignoring it wo…
/r/seduction15/04/14 08:05 PM
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try maybe raising your eyebrows a little. I'm no expert, but there is no hostile human expression with raised eyebrows. it could help for a more gentle expression. or try to flex one cheek muscle ( the ones that you use when you smile ) ever so slightly
/r/seduction15/04/14 07:53 PM
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don't smile all the time though. you'll look foolish. wear a self-assured but neutral face at all times. when you spot a girl and she notices you smile faintly or smirk. only really smile hardcore or laugh if she does something you really like and more importantly when you are either talking about yourself or are doing something that you find fun ( like at the end of a joke you crack ) .
/r/seduction12/04/14 10:35 PM
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I won't adress your dissertations about the existence nor the necessity of morals in society. I would probably agree and these arguments are not what I am trying to get trough. I believe what is truly right and wrong either does not exist in itself or if it does can not be narrowed down to a set of rules or a code, hence my statements that it is not worth anymore than the particles of dust in the wind ( it's just a saying, don't get so worked up about it ). you think they can be, by spontaneous …
/r/seduction12/04/14 09:48 PM
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I'm sorry to have to say, morality is fake. it's a groundless construction completely fabricated by humanity. there is no real right and wrong, only whatever someone tells you is ethical, or what you yourself feel is ethical. both empty words without any logical sense. why is it wrong to harm someone else ? I find no correct answer to that question, just many answers and opinions and I look down upon anyone or any system of belief judging my actions and classifying them right or wrong without gr…
/r/seduction12/04/14 04:11 PM
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not much else to feed you back here. decent first dat. go on a second one
/r/seduction12/04/14 03:24 AM
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this sub is here for seduction. seduction of girls. be they cute girls, fat girls, daughters, cougars, grandma's, single girls, bi girls, girls with boyfriends, married women, ex-girlfriends, terminally ill girls, and anything in between, above and/or beyond. hitting on a girl who has a boyfriend may make you an asshole according to society's ( in my opinion way too puritain and hypocritical ) moral code, but every man has his own , much more important life-code and he and only he decides what m…
/r/seduction12/04/14 01:30 AM
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that's good. you don't want to be talking about the boyfriend because then you can continue running game on her like any other (single) girl. it's also just for girls who like their boyfriend or have not otherwise already decided to sleep with you
/r/seduction12/04/14 01:01 AM
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Resident asshole chiming in: you are the Eeyore of seddit and we love you (too ) :)
/r/seduction12/04/14 12:28 AM
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beauty. the hygiene thing is good too. if that's not a given I change my answer to that. or petites.
/r/seduction12/04/14 12:27 AM
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yes goddammit yes. unless you don't want to. every man has a code. mine says yes. here is some stuff I posted for a similar question; you can't attack the boyfriend directly; what you need to do is actually whenever he comes up describe him as the ideal boyfriend. exaggerate franticly about how perfect he is. this will make her bring up the fact that he's not. ( if she actually insists that he's perfect multiple times she's way too cuckoo for him ) here you actually superficially defend the boyf…
/r/seduction12/04/14 12:20 AM
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ante scriptum: regarding your title, I think "comeback" is a pretty pessimistic word for your situation. you're doing fine, don't worry, not all the cards are on the table yet ;) whoa women are so illogical. this girl wants to hang out and cuddle with you thursday,friday,saturday and sunday but she won't kiss you. we can all agree something seems off here. your gameplan for tomorrow is complete crap, sorry. after three fairly intimate dates this girl hasn't let you kiss her yet and you are talki…
/r/seduction12/04/14 12:11 AM
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haha the trick is to not take yourself seriously. if you don't laugh at yourself , there will be someone else who will do it for you.
/r/seduction11/04/14 11:20 PM
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we're saying the same thing, I'm just cutting out the least determining factor. if you have to be at least 4 feet to ride and at least 5 feet to ride, you essentially have to be 5 feet tall. that's the shortcut I'm making in our discussion
/r/seduction11/04/14 10:18 PM
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A man and A woman who are about to have sex both have to consent, yes. most men are out there looking to have sex , much less women . so while you could argue men have a "gate" too, it is much more easily opened than the women's one. making them the party who has last say in whether they have sex or not
/r/seduction11/04/14 05:08 PM
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let's get it on - Marvin Gaye , the musical equivalent of cavemanning it. glory box - portishead , such a fucking hot and heavy song most stuff by the XX cause girls love that shit, "sunset" in particular is a favourite of mine ( and theirs ) , nice and intimate see if you can use anything from love scenes in girly sitcoms, because that is what girls want. they love those shows because they see actresses get the things they want and live vicariously. typically I just use the latest sexy song tha…
/r/seduction11/04/14 02:59 PM
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head tilt !
/r/seduction11/04/14 12:23 PM
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dude, my life right now consists of hangovers, maybe going to classes, dinner and going out to party again. compared to you I haven't accomplished shit. yet when I go out, I still feel like I'm the man. if I can do it then don't try to tell me you can't!! it's all between your ears mate; if you tell yourself you are going out tonight and are going to ace anything you attempt and slam on a grin, sooner or later you will slip into the right mentality automatically. make sure you are with uplifting…
/r/seduction11/04/14 12:21 PM
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if it is more common for men to open their gate than for women, women are de facto the gatekeepers. females who want sex are in shorter supply than men who want sex
/r/seduction11/04/14 12:01 PM
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beeline for the girl you are not allowed to talk to :" what's wrong with your friend ? Is she having a bad day ? " like you are concerned. thank the bitch mentally for the free opener
/r/seduction11/04/14 02:48 AM
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you're so wrong. if a women goes out with the intention to get laid she can be on her back in a couple of hours. most men go out with the intention of getting laid. I don't need to remind you how that works out for them
/r/seduction11/04/14 02:45 AM
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I get it. all girls are fair game. if she uses the boyfriend as an obstacle, you can use this.
/r/seduction11/04/14 02:42 AM
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oh yes, if she has already made up her mind to kiss him ( ideally the case at the end of the date ) he can go for it in the car. I'm talking in case she hasn't decided yet and in that case he should do everything he can to increase his odds
/r/seduction11/04/14 02:22 AM
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yes but what will have the greatest chance of her kissing him ; them sitting next to each other at arms length both watching the road in front or him standing up close in front of her, maybe holding her hand and looking into her eyes ?
/r/seduction10/04/14 10:51 PM
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go team "hitting on girls with boyfriends" ! I answered another guy with a similar question some time ago. will look for the post, you might find it useful gotcha bitch! here it is // you can't attack the boyfriend directly; what you need to do is actually whenever he comes up describe him as the ideal boyfriend. exaggerate franticly about how perfect he is. this will make her bring up the fact that he's not. ( if she actually insists that he's perfect multiple times she's way too cuckoo for him…
/r/seduction10/04/14 10:20 PM
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I want to upvote every sentence of that post. except "no." that's not much of an impressive sentence
/r/seduction10/04/14 10:19 PM
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yes there is ! http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/pbkwv/glossary_of_terms_ag/ and http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/pbkxs/glossary_of_terms_hz/
/r/seduction10/04/14 10:01 PM
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yes that's generally the plan if you still want to get laid that night. LMR is a bitch
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:54 PM
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hrmmm yeah... maybe it is better to treat the disease and not the symptom ( like I did )
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:52 PM
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you know, you can just kiss without rubbing your tongue over hers. a dry peck on the lips guarantees 0.0% saliva and cooties are exchanged. but that of course doesn't answer your question now does it ? I predict this no-kissing thing will actually have a moderately successful response from girls. I'll tell you why I think this. women are different from men; we are in it for the closes: the number, the kiss, the sex. Women think differently; these milestones, whilst still enjoyable to them, are n…
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:48 PM
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every man should have his own code. this is the right answer. what follows is purely personal opinion. make up your own mind, and if you like this guy's arguments then by all means don't. I'd gladly help a girl cheat if I can get away with it. hell, I'd even date her if I liked her, I'd just simply not invest myself too much in her and not expect her to treat me any better than the last guy she dated who didn't see it coming. if you make it clear you are not exclusive I don't see the problem
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:22 PM
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you need to realize it's all relative. I'm sure you are aware of the fact that there are dozens of skills you have worth being envied by your buddies, right ? you've been dealt the bad hand in the women's department ? too bad man, deal with it. everyone has their strengths and weaknesses ; teach others your strengths , learn from others instead of being mad. at the end of the day the only person you have to compare yourself to is the guy you were at the beginning of the day. if you are better th…
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:15 PM
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I think it's safe for us to assume she is deliberately ignoring him after 5 messages over the course of an entire day
/r/seduction10/04/14 07:25 PM
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I never meant drugs, I totally understand the sentiment. a professional will never force medicine on you if you say up front you only want immaterial help and wont take drugs. just talking to someone who has an actual degree in "helping you mentally" can offer major help. for sure more than I can
/r/seduction10/04/14 07:22 PM
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cool! TIL how the hell do you pronounce that ?? O.O
/r/seduction10/04/14 07:19 PM
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you have a lot to learn. stick around
/r/seduction10/04/14 05:33 PM
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this is a classic, but I don't think it helps OP in his particular situation ( passenger in a car )
/r/seduction10/04/14 05:32 PM
1

don't do something that awkward. simply tell her to walk you to the door. make up a blatantly or not blatantly fake excuse if she asks you why, then go for it at your doorstep
/r/seduction10/04/14 05:30 PM
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I'm a whiskey snob /: i know
/r/seduction10/04/14 05:11 PM
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lol ? how about any bartender who has a problem with your order(s) can go suck on an unusually fat one ? you order what you feel like drinking. be it watered down water or absynth spiked with jet fuel. you are the man and you drink whatever you want. alpha male theory doesn't get much love anymore but in this case it is really relevant. if you are just asking for drink suggestions on the other hand minus the bullshit, then say no more; [ I am / have been a bartender ;) ] champagne (or white wine…
/r/seduction10/04/14 04:40 PM
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*Jameson
/r/seduction10/04/14 04:26 PM
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greatest hero ever ;)
/r/seduction10/04/14 02:53 PM
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"hey , I've seen you around here right ? I thought today , I should like to meet her. " or if you're into vulnerability ; " hey, we've seen each other here from day to day right ? I was working up the courage for today to finally say hi "
/r/seduction10/04/14 02:15 PM
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published in 2014 doesn't mean made in 2013. I don't personally care about the guru's private life, if anything I think it's nice they are all just people like you and me with flaws. who and what they are is completely irrelevant to their prolific contributions to the game. don't know about the "industry" but the most significant trend since " the game " is the rise of "inner game" vis a vis "outer game" . I believe Mark Manson has contributed largely to this, someone who is not featured in " th…
/r/seduction10/04/14 02:10 PM
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perhaps you should expose yourself to the video again ? if it's not fresh in your mind you might forget to do things without realising it
/r/seduction10/04/14 02:03 PM
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I wish I could wear a suit every day :( this summer I swear I'm wearing my suit-jacket casually , fuck the police. also, whoa . you zero'd in on the last perfume I bought and the one I would have bought if all my girlfriends hadn't told me it was the pinnacle of sexy-male scent ( If i purchase it now it looks like I'm doing it to impress them ) . I like your style ! might I add "fierce" by abercrombie&fitch or the Armani " code" ?
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:58 PM
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I just act surprised for a while then continue talking if it's a soft rejection. soon it will be like nothing has happened. hard rejection -> aknowledge the harshness ( without getting defensive or displaying weakness, after all, you don't care ) . she might ease up and apologize. if she keeps rejecting you rudely just do it as often as you feel you can get away with or pull the shoot and wish her a good night.
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:53 PM
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next time the question " how did you meet your SO?" pops up on /r/askreddit, take not of how many girls say they thought their current SO was too arrogant, not nice , the biggest asshole they ever met,... etc. at first
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:51 PM
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don't worry, I think you "won" . I don't know if you did it on purpose ( i suspect you knew what you were doing ) , but you performed a freeze out . executed perfectly I might add. her sex remark was just her being pissed off her LMR backfired and subsequent neediness. no worries. set up a next date cause she might actually like you, go for it again and remind her of what she said last time if she pulls the same shit ( she will uncounsciously remember how you reacted when she was too frigid ) an…
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:40 PM
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don't look at it as a scale, look at it like a personal unit with 10 being the maximum amount. the hotter a girl is the more "HB's" you give her.
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:10 PM
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10/10 would read the novel
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:05 PM
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it's clear he doesn't take himself as seriously as he presents himself and neither should you man
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:04 PM
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I wouldn't use either choice, but surely more of the second one than the first. run game on her like any other girl; the fact she already likes you will only magnify the impact. if you act too hard to get and you lose her you will be kicking yourself, so calibrate or be sorry later
/r/seduction10/04/14 12:51 PM
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you sound confident enough to get your way with a girl. be a leader, tell her you're going to her place because your place sucks ( or whatever ) if you want to get more intimate with a girl. dating is easy. dinner, drinks and see what she's in the mood for next. or else there are all kinds of wacky dates you can go on like prospecting or tree hugging or whatever that are neither my area of expertise nor my style.
/r/seduction10/04/14 12:46 PM
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the advice we give here at best helps guys without psychological issues. maybe you should consult a professional ? anyway, there is nothing wrong with radical honesty, but you have to train in the fine art of dressing up your phrases with bullshit so they sound less like insults. have something to say ? something rude ? say it gently with an upward inflexion, almost like a question. slap on a smile ! add the " get out of jail free" "no offense" to your sentence or say that you are being blunt " …
/r/seduction10/04/14 12:33 PM
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you are superior to 9/10 guys just cause you have the balls to approach (and not be a wannabe playboy about it like the other half).
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:59 AM
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you need to imply you will use it to persue her romantically ( so a date )
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:56 AM
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go over there and tell them casually they are looking nice/happy today. dodge the eventual bitch shield ( " oh my, are you is she always like this or is she having a bad day ? " ). give them the best friend test ( googl ) or ask them which one of them they think is the prettiest because you were wondering when you saw them. hint at the fact that you also think one of them is the cutest , then playfully refuse to tell them. just examples, you can take it from there
/r/seduction10/04/14 01:54 AM
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I'm with ya' bro, upvoted ! it all boils down to the fact that women want to be treated badly disclaimer: schools of thought on the matter may vary
/r/seduction10/04/14 12:57 AM
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remember that girls can sense it when you are reluctant, half-assing it or are going in with the expectation of being shot down though. so listen to this advice, but go 100% balls to the wall and not " eh , might as well "
/r/seduction10/04/14 12:32 AM
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fuck it , I'll upvote these. neither direct nor indirect game are right/wrong . it's a matter of personal style and these are good direct game lines
/r/seduction09/04/14 08:58 PM
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umm.. not really
/r/seduction09/04/14 08:56 PM
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you see them in your classes... and you... can't... -hang on a sec- deep breath ... think of anything to talk about ?? sometimes the amount of overthinking of some guys leaves me speechless. ( no offense ofcourse ! ) talk about the class, duh ! discuss your professor, the lesson, the building, your schedule, the college, whatever . and that's just the place to start ! actually listen to what a girl replies and take it from there. you are not a robot who needs a command to form a reply; you can c…
/r/seduction09/04/14 08:55 PM
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I imagine this potentially being helpful to guys with some degree of AA, because you get the extra stimulus of " yes I like you, come talk to me" if she smiles and waves back. someone with a little more experience will just hit the eye contact and immediately pounce. got AA ? try this !
/r/seduction09/04/14 08:46 PM
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puaforums is unaffiliated with anyone. seductionbase holds a lot of theory
/r/seduction09/04/14 08:39 PM
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I don't get it
/r/seduction09/04/14 07:31 PM
28

pupil dilation is also probably my best guess because in my experience turned on girls either get this loomy , relaxed expression ( half-closed eyes , small, soft smile , typical " lovey-dovey" ) or this kind of agitated, wild , smouldering look ( fiere eye contact, bigger smile, more like the traditional animal-sex image ) . but the eyes never lie ;)
/r/seduction09/04/14 12:35 AM
5

until she uses her big girl words and *tells you
/r/seduction09/04/14 12:29 AM
1

do you know the lyrics to "Singing in the Rain" ? if you learn them real quick you can dance with her in the rain
/r/seduction09/04/14 12:27 AM
2

probably confirmation bias or the fact that your type isn't considered beautiful in Bulgaria. most likely explanations in any case because this doesn't make any sense
/r/seduction06/04/14 09:07 PM
2

last time a girl said I had to earn her number I said that I already did. ( didn't get it though)
/r/seduction06/04/14 01:24 PM
1

I'm sorry, I always forget there are people here who read up on everything but then don't use it by approaching. ( kindof pointless ) I mean like a theory-expert then. also I think much more than 25% of people on seddit are valuable
/r/seduction06/04/14 01:19 PM
1

like not blatantly hurting you right off the bat, but winning your trust first so they can do it more effectively later
/r/seduction06/04/14 01:16 PM
1

funily enough your post will get deleted if you add more info because it will belong in /r/askseddit then sigh so keep it vague and about the theory. you can't attack the boyfriend directly; what you need to do is actually whenever he comes up describe him as the ideal boyfriend. exaggerate franticly about how perfect he is. this will make her bring up the fact that he's not. ( if she actually insists that he's perfect multiple times she's way too cuckoo for him ) here you actually superficially…
/r/seduction06/04/14 04:42 AM
1

like " haha look at this loser trying to seduce me hahaha " ? not really. women are evil, but they are way more subtle about it :D
/r/seduction06/04/14 04:14 AM
3

not if he leaves right after the hug though
/r/seduction06/04/14 04:12 AM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4 ?
/r/seduction06/04/14 04:09 AM
1

oh my god man, so much wrong with this ! although I'm very scared that nothing I can say will be able to make you snap out of it if you've already seen two-and-a-half years worth of this subreddits anti-AA posts. but in any case how the hell can you know you're at a plateau if you've only ever done 2 approaches ?? shit is impossible man ! a plateau is when a PUA consistently gets a result he considers unsatisfactory out of countless approaches during his journey! you've done 2 ! your plateau is …
/r/seduction06/04/14 04:03 AM
3

my confidence is not influenced by my appearance, you see ?
/r/seduction06/04/14 03:47 AM
1

yeah, don't downvote him; an experienced sedditor would not get these type of bullshit feelings and / or otherwise does not pay them any attention, which is essentially the same thing.
/r/seduction06/04/14 03:44 AM
1

the realest form of karma is reddit-karma . and that's saying something. your "karma" is this. pixie dust and a ghost's shadow. so here's a little secret: you can be as big of an asshole or as huge of a benefactor as you want, nothing will be automatically different. and yes, moving onward and forward is probably the most common way of changing a friends mind who did not feel the same way back when you were crushing on her. I of course have no statistics to back this up, but I think we all can a…
/r/seduction06/04/14 03:41 AM
5

actually, a physical gesture can greatly help you with sticking to an immaterial one you vowed or to bring out a certain other side of you !
/r/seduction06/04/14 03:33 AM
2

then you are well on your way ;) yeah, I know the theory, but mildly dislike the sub because of the subtle sense of superiority and people acting like it gives them superpowers. benefits, downsides, everyone reacts differently. i fap on weekends and it works for me
/r/seduction05/04/14 06:05 PM
2

yes, feeling shitty about it is good because as all animals our instinct tells us to avoid discomfort and it will help you take action to not feel bad next time, in your case broadening your comfort zone. and I really hope you keep your vow
/r/seduction05/04/14 05:46 PM
1

would you deal with it in another way than 1 or 2 ?
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:56 PM
0

lol , pretty random haha sounds like the perfectly flamboyant guy you want to have distract friends of the girl you're interested in. take not of his indifference of what people think of him and use the fact he comes on strong to make a better impression on the girl you want.
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:51 PM
3

I'd give you the logical advice ( you've got nothing to lose, you can't win if you don't play, worst thing that can happen is that she says no, if you approach you're doing better than 9/10 guys, it's all in your head, women want to be approached, man up,... ) but I have a feeling you won't find that very helpful. best thing to do is work on your self-image. you should genuinely believe you are the best thing that could happen to anyone on a given day. this falls under the self-improvement categ…
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:48 PM
4

you are looking at this the wrong way ! if you notice your friend is an exceptional speaker who always becomes the center of attention, then go out with him more often and try to learn from him ! analyze his way of conversating so you too can become a grade A speaker
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:21 PM
2

well first of all there is a distinction to make between a "soft no" and a "hard no", you know ? scenario 1 is her being interested and now just playing hard to get, but ironically giving herself away with jealousy and shit-testing game. scenario 2 is her really not wanting anything to do with you but using you for a quick validation-fix. ( and I use the comparison between female validation seeking and junkie crack addiction very deliberately ). what you want to do here is just call her out on i…
/r/seduction05/04/14 03:57 PM
1

oh hell yes, don't worry at all ! every single PUA sometimes inexplicably fucks up. stand up, dust off and proceed
/r/seduction05/04/14 03:48 PM
1

there comes a moment when you need to go for it. relying on a girl to come back to you ( especially after you ignored her as much as you did in this story ) has the benefit that if she does come back, you know you are "in" big time, but the problem with it is that it's a long shot. it takes a certain type of girl to bypass the sacred social law ( that I hate by the way) that the male is supposed to approach the female. and even then those girls will only do it if they are very interested. you ig…
/r/seduction05/04/14 02:02 PM
1

wayyyy too defensive
/r/seduction05/04/14 01:56 PM
6

dealing with shit-tests. the advice you already have is incorrect or too vague; here's the theory. there are three basic ways of dealing with a shit-test, deflecting/ignoring it ( like saying " whatever " or " yeah, I'm awesome" ) being the last resort. basic response is the agree&amplify . this shows you are way too confident to give a damn and demonstrates that her shitty comments are going into your one ear and straight out the other. what you do is twofold ; you take the negative information…
/r/seduction05/04/14 01:55 PM
2

number one way to meet people is to just get out there. women nor friends are going to pop up out of your closet or bathroom. most important rule is to actually put yourself in a situation where you can meet people and it's almost inevitable then if you're a cool, confident guy. easiest way to make friends is to have friends you already have introduce you to their friends you don't know. spend some time with them at a party or barbeque or wherever you are when you meet them and you'll probably c…
/r/seduction05/04/14 12:53 PM
1

trying to make eye-contact more than once is just AA in disguise. what are you going to do if you're really attracted to a girl but you are only able to catch her glance once ? back off ? fuck that !! you don't even need that first instance of eye contact, it's just something that makes you more assured in your approach because on some level you think she wants you to and it marginally improves your chances. no eye contact is silver , once is gold. (there is no platinum or diamond, shut up)
/r/seduction05/04/14 12:41 PM
2

as always ( when someone wants last second pointers ) you have to realize you already know everything you need to know. it's all there in your head. don't worry. but for sport , read this I guess . it's nice and golden and shiny http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/21nw5f/my_beginner_blueprint_classic_information_in_the/
/r/seduction04/04/14 09:51 PM
1

he probably just means in a good " high energy " way, not in a bad " sweaty palms" nervous kind of way
/r/seduction04/04/14 09:46 PM
1

trying to chit-chat is usually less likely to elicit a response than trying to plan the next activity. if she doesn't answer ( she still might, but chances are dwindling) wait a day or two and ask her out with a specific date&time. after that let it go and find someone less rude if she doesn't respond.
/r/seduction04/04/14 09:44 PM
2

you shouldn't always be direct, I totally agree with that, but the sexual ones aren't really all that. I'm sure you guys could come up with something a little more clever on your own
/r/seduction04/04/14 08:35 PM
2

to answer your question, yes we can :P but I almost always find my later approaches are more succesful anyway . being "in state" is not the same as just approaching you see
/r/seduction04/04/14 08:05 PM
1

first few seconds are barely a starting point at best. you can go insanely up or down on the interest scale from where you start once you start interacting. hope for you it will be one of many to come
/r/seduction04/04/14 06:13 PM
2

yeah, you just start talking to strangers. it flips the social switch in your brain. if you feel like you really need to ease into it start by talking with random bros and work your way up to women. if you feel really really particularly shy then ask a friend to introduce you to someone they know and start from there. there is no way that is not going to be a nice , comfortable conversation. use the first couple of hours to get in state this way and you'll be chatting up girls in no time
/r/seduction04/04/14 06:09 PM
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I really doubt we contributed much to this , but glad for you anyway ;) this goes to show that it's true everyone "has it in them" on some level
/r/seduction03/04/14 04:14 PM
1

girls who are working are a dangerously grey zone. you need to be very sure she is interested. honestly, there are easier ways to pick up chicks man, I don't think it's worth it. just look out for her the next time you actually need to be in that store
/r/seduction03/04/14 04:01 PM
8

it's called flirting . just ask her out and watch out to not be too supplicating and validating when you think she's "out fishing" . she has her friendzone for that
/r/seduction03/04/14 03:57 PM
0

negs and disqualifiers are the tools you need here. knock her off the pedestall with some cocky&funny lines and be sure not to give in to her bullshit. ->"I'm sorry, you must have me confused with every other guy you ever met. I'm unimpressed" ->"sorry to have to break this to you my dear but what sets you apart from the five or so other 8/10's that I saw here tonight ? " if she retorts with what makes you special say " nothing at all except maybe the balls to go for what I want in life as oppos…
/r/seduction03/04/14 03:55 PM
3

field work and theory are yin and yang, you need both. that's why I disagreed so hard with that guy who was dissing theory the other day. but it's your life, do what you want man
/r/seduction02/04/14 05:43 PM
1

one of the most divisive topics here at /r/seduction ! I'm on the "pro" side of the opinion spectrum. if you've locked eyes already it should be fairly easy to catch her one day somewhere in your gym, ideally outside, and pretend you just happened to run into her. just say you've "noticed her noticing you" or that you've "seen her around before and thought it would be nice to meet her" , no sweat. figuratively. do not, i repeat DO NOT approach her in the act of "working out" not whilst using the…
/r/seduction02/04/14 05:16 PM
2

you learn the tricks, you learn the trade. she has to let you connect to her. that's what such attraction-building tricks are for in my opinion
/r/seduction01/04/14 08:28 PM
2

In general you have to strive to have a wide array of places to be and people to see. Don't be overly accomodating things that ( would ) require you to alter or check your schedule and talk often about your fun, interesting other friends and awesome activities you do. be seen with attractive women. be seen flirting with them if the situation demands it. I am assumeing that you can do this with the necessary subtlety. what you're going for here is " oh wow "this guy" is really popular, has an awe…
/r/seduction01/04/14 08:26 PM
3

one I haven't seen here is the P.A.S. ( Proximity Alert System ) . this is a sneaky one . a woman you know who is interested might not come right up to you but sort of hover in your area.( I believe this is the result of how much we have been conditioned to have the male typically approach the female.) she will almost always turn her back to you too, which is why this is a sneaky one and most people who are unaware of P.A.S. will not recognize when it is going on. the tell-tale sign of P.A.S. is…
/r/seduction01/04/14 05:43 PM
1

superficial things can help , but women know they look for these things in men. a quick glance through /r/seduction will show you that there are a few principles that everything revolves around and these basic things always come back. and they are never material things, so women will also be much less aware of their desire for them. stuff like confidence, being a leader ( in conversation as well as in the social meaning of the word ), body language , passion and having actually something to say …
/r/seduction01/04/14 04:59 PM
1

I don't know man, there is still plenty of work to do once you get her in your house . ever had to deal with ASD or LMR ? those can be a royal bitch. and that's not even the problem /u/thehiddentruth has
/r/seduction01/04/14 04:50 PM
1

I don't really understand. how do you conversate with your friends ?( or is this a women-specific problem ? short answer is to talk to women as you would talk to your friends.) you should also get out more if you want to tackle this problem and yes, you will have a harder time seducing women when you're high. there are a few top posts somewhere about being a good conversationalist . I'll see if I can look them up, but you can too
/r/seduction01/04/14 04:44 PM
1

do this only inevitably not as flawless http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljeiluo0Eb1qikdjao1_500.gif
/r/seduction01/04/14 03:41 PM
1

formatting - the gentleman's capslock I just can't take someone seriously WHO WRITESSS LIIIIKKKKEEE THHIIIISSSS !!!! you already present your controversial ideas in a very agressive way, if you go about typing them like this too it greatly discourages civil and logic discussion.
/r/seduction01/04/14 03:30 PM
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"seduction" and "pickup" at this point are not going to be of much use for you. if she stuck with you for 9 months chances are you are doing something right. maybe try /r/dating ( although I've never been there ) ! don't become a clingy AFC-boyfriend, be your own man with your other interests besides the girlfriend while treating her good and most importantly don't fall for any relationship-traps she could subcounsciously or purposely lay in front of you ;) you're doing fine. part of me wishes I…
/r/seduction01/04/14 03:21 PM
1

you learn the theory, then you go out and practice what you've picked up from books and forums and such. there is no one without the other
/r/seduction01/04/14 03:15 PM
1

have you seen OP's capslock-ridden post ? it's like somebody sowed the text messages my little niece writes me together from its appearance. then you think this guy is overreacting ?
/r/seduction01/04/14 03:13 PM
1

alcohol brings out the best in me
/r/seduction30/03/14 01:22 PM
1

RIGHT ??! :D
/r/seduction30/03/14 01:21 PM
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I'm extremely drunk now, but you should think that women are out to hurt you. if you give them any measure of power over you they will abuse it to stab you where it hurts. where it hurts fucking bad. this is why you have to rearrange your whole social awareness. take all the guys you know. good. now at the bottom that list will be the guy you like least of all. now place the woman you like MOST of all directly under him and start working from there. treat her and her direct "underlings" accordin…
/r/seduction30/03/14 04:35 AM
1

just stick around here. and prioritize your inner game first
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:45 PM
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basically you solved this ! http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/21m9nc/can_we_create_a_quick_guide_reminders_to_read/
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:38 PM
9

if you know he has decent game why not try and set him up with a couple of girls ? like open a set or a girl and then introduce him. I have a couple of shy/introverted good friends I regularly go out with and something similar happens to me; even if I'm at someone's place where I know nobody at all except the shy friend who brought me I'll eventually start to dominate the conversation/social circle and my friend will generally be sitting next to me listening. I can't help it, I'm a socialite. Wh…
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:33 PM
1

if you've really talked that little to her going for a date is like spinning the roulette wheel. try to set up your next meeting at another ( less loud ) party where you are both at with your respective friends so you can hit her up with some respectable game and build your value and rapport before asking her out on a date. seriously, right now , what does she know about you ? she knows how you dance and kiss. she knows your name, she knows what you look like. for most men this is sufficient inf…
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:16 PM
4

I'd rather think of it like there are leagues, but we just happen to be in the top one...
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:10 PM
1

aww man... -----E
/r/seduction29/03/14 01:47 PM
1

oh ya, if he approached he would most likely have gotten shot down for sure, but I didn't need him to approach confidently, I needed him to just convince himself to appraoch (despite the risk of being shot down) . In my experience it's how you get the ball rolling to conquer AA and outcome dependance
/r/seduction29/03/14 01:42 PM
2

honestly I don't have the faintest fucking clue cause most of us are not in high school anymore. pickup is mostly oriented at situations for older people. I guess confidence is in even shorter supply in high school than in environments with older people, so try starting from there. if your high school isn't very big then , if i remember correctly :P , your social status will also play a big role in your ability to pick up girls. if you have a big school then that makes it easier because you can …
/r/seduction29/03/14 01:01 AM
5

don't know if you can see yourself doing this but my thing when navigating through a crowd could be called rambling I guess. I stick one hand in front of me to part the sea so to speak and constantly ramble on like "sorry, excuse me , coming through, need to go over there, make way, piss off, pardon me (, etcetera ) ". usually people move, if someone doesn't or makes eye-contact I crack a joke or say " excuse me mate " and give that person a wink, handshake or wave . this helps me for two things…
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:47 AM
0

this falls under " Don't ask permission for what you can apologize for later . never apologize. " I'd say
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:40 AM
2

and yet, there are some fool here who believe that girls turn them down because they are playing games and such the fastest way to learn fuck-all about pickup is disregarding opposing views and their propagators, especially if they are more experienced than you, as stupid and idiots respectively. thesis, antithesis and synthesis is what I always say from what I've read I'm guessing you just really prefer inner game
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:35 AM
2

http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/In_the_Middle/pap/80.html http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/In_the_Middle/pap/index.html
/r/seduction29/03/14 12:19 AM
1

it's in the delivery
/r/seduction28/03/14 10:59 PM
1

I could totally see this being in a pick-up situation! anyway . as a rule I often reply to guys fashion jokes with " Since when did they start letting men into the Fashion Police ? " in a broader sense, whenever someone gives you shit you should just let it slide right off you. let this loser have his laugh and smile politely and laugh at yourself. you are not insecure. this is a part of the "alpha-male"- theory that still holds very true in my opinion
/r/seduction28/03/14 09:31 PM
1

this is not agreeing and amplifying, it's the cocky/funny response. which is also fine ! A&A would be something like : " yeah I know man, my mom picked it out for me and I can't afford a new one " or " fuck you got me, my shirt is way too bright; I was disrupting traffic on my way over here man"
/r/seduction28/03/14 09:15 PM
1

I like the idea although I must say after a while all this info starts to stick in your head anyway and you don't need a reminder before every night because these last minute tips are essentially summaries of or buzzwords about the basics. could still be useful for the newer PUA's or as a kind of way to get in state for some though. but how would we make one? all spam a thread with our own separate, personal advice ? make an online document that anyone of us can edit and contribute to ? hold lik…
/r/seduction28/03/14 09:04 PM
2

when a girl tells me something like that I always think it's kindof patronizing so I'll usually reply something like " no, I'm an asshole. " guess it depends on your style.
/r/seduction28/03/14 08:50 PM
3

you already know everything you need to know. but for sport; yesterday I opened a girl with " I bet I could..." something really offensive. to prove a point to a friend of mine who is basically the bastard child of Approach Anxiety and Fear of Rejection. ( I apologized to her shortly after by the way because jesus was that ever rude ) I had asked him to tell me the worst opener he could come up with to prove that it doesn't matter how you start a conversation with a girl and that they will put u…
/r/seduction28/03/14 08:44 PM
2

"this and more is happening saturday ;) " is what I would say. you can't really go wrong as long as your tone is " Why are you asking "when?" when we've already established saturday
/r/seduction27/03/14 08:37 PM
1

use the information, but stick to the plan. see what you can make happen saturday
/r/seduction27/03/14 08:03 PM
1

we should rename the word "rejection" to something less scary and final . like "postponing" or something, but better
/r/seduction27/03/14 05:57 PM
1

things like these just happen. you almost need a sixth sense to be able to predict it when you are getting all the indicators to the opposite, don't worry
/r/seduction27/03/14 05:43 PM
1

blast a killer track of your preference and dance in front of the mirror. if you're already at the venue then talk to as many people as possible and meet new people ( that works for me but depends on your personality I think )
/r/seduction27/03/14 05:17 PM
2

" I've seen you around. thought I wanted to meet you " potentially into any kind of " two people who would be great togehter but never met because one of them was too shy " - routine
/r/seduction27/03/14 05:10 PM
1

we are not anti-intellectualist, don't call us that or find a good reason to. you can keep your precious moral high-ground (delusions) too IDGAF
/r/seduction27/03/14 05:04 PM
1

I fucking hate babies, we'd be great together. okay , I'm shallow. ... now what ?
/r/seduction27/03/14 05:01 PM
1

if I'm taking her out on a first date it means we've known each other for some time
/r/seduction27/03/14 04:59 PM
2

I'll toast to that :D
/r/seduction27/03/14 04:57 PM
2

semantics
/r/seduction27/03/14 04:56 PM
19

don't extrapolate . value to you comes in other forms than what is typically.... I like hot girls. it's literally my only requirement. physical attractiveness. and I'm sorry to tell you that we are still equals. everyone here is, because we all have personal preferences and there is nothing right or wrong or morally inferior or superior about that. not even chubby chasers
/r/seduction26/03/14 06:50 PM
1

I only pay once we are dating. this definitely doesn't include FWB's and I'd NEVER pay for a random girl's drink . only legit girlfriends get these "perks" . I guess I've developed other filters
/r/seduction26/03/14 06:42 PM
-3

I screen potential girlfriends very hard before asking them on a date. this leads to me only taking the quality ones out, and as we know there aren't many of those, so I usually only date one girl at a time. this has not yet lead to oneitis before, nor do I see why it should with the right mindset. hell yeah I " live up to the part " ( of being a catch ) . to me it's synonymous with giving the best of yourself and the self-improvement /r/seduction stands for. I don't want to be me, I want to be …
/r/seduction26/03/14 06:39 PM
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why this zero-spending mindset ? we're not /r/frugal ; if I deem a girl worthy to ask out on a date with me, you better believe we are going to the swankiest restaurant in town and I'm paying for her. why? because if I want to date her ( i.e. GF her ) she must be a real catch, therefore worthy of being treated as well ( or better ) as I can afford to . and I will. why ? because I'm quite the catch too and any girl would be lucky to have me date her, so I live up to the part. *disclaimer : differ…
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:23 PM
2

what's fuego ??
/r/seduction26/03/14 05:04 PM
1

no probs. what's the difference between our interpretation and the academic one ??
/r/seduction26/03/14 03:00 AM
1

act like she doesn't until she actually tells you she does and deal with it then. if she has one she will often bring it up herself , but don't ask or you might ruin a perfectly good slut-close on a girl who would have pretended to be single and not mention her boyfriend. the important thing to know is that if you telegraph interest she'll inform you herself once she "gets your telegraph" . this is also important because if you don't convey your romantic interest enough she won't feel the need t…
/r/seduction26/03/14 02:40 AM
8

yeah, girls do like to throw that term around generously to be fair. hell, even I've "modelled"
/r/seduction26/03/14 02:25 AM
2

we have these things called IOI's . simply Indicators Of Interest. if you see these , you know - almost for a fact - the female you are talking to is interested in you. you can google them easily. they range from verbal to pysical , active to passive and subconscious to "on purpose" it's my bedtime, otherwise I would have described them in more detail, but you get the point I hope.
/r/seduction26/03/14 02:19 AM
6

typical contemporary PUA-guide introduction . I don't know if that satisfies you
/r/seduction25/03/14 09:51 PM
1

...any and all corrections of his AFC behaviour ?
/r/seduction25/03/14 09:39 PM
4

absolutely. disarm if the friend isn't being friendly enough / is being a bitch / is interfering too much / is a cockblock or mother hen disqualify if you know she means well and you'd rather make more progress with your target. escalate if , or rather, when you already have some rapport/comfort/kino established. my choice between the last two basically boils down to how long I've been in the set
/r/seduction25/03/14 04:23 PM
5

whoa whoa whoa, calm down man, you're setting yourself up for failure right off the bat. change your mindset immediately ! you are not nervous, this is your first date out of a thousand, you are interesting and a fantastic conversationalist, you are not about to vomit , bowling with me is fucking awesome, you are afraid you won't have enough time to talk about everything you want to talk about, etc. etc.... IMPORTANT: this irrational nervousness is what kills your inner monologue ( and it's your…
/r/seduction25/03/14 04:19 PM
1

boyfriend destroyers all day err' day :P
/r/seduction25/03/14 02:50 PM
1

"He just got hit by a pickup truck" xD mine.
/r/seduction25/03/14 02:45 PM
3

come on, it's not a link to a blog, it's the free book he's advertising. someone did the exact same thing a week or so ago ( a thousand tiny failures) . it's basically a link to an article and we have those all the time. it's not politics or anything. don't be a hater
/r/seduction25/03/14 02:41 PM
1

made an account to give it a read, but that means any review i would write you wouldn't do you much good...
/r/seduction25/03/14 02:38 PM
1

extremely , if not exclusively dependant on you getting the group and the vast majority of the group at that to like you. they won't always be that friendly or helpful , far from it. also I'm concerned a number you obtain by means of peer pressure could become wood. maybe peer pressure her for isolation from the group in stead of going straight for the number ?
/r/seduction25/03/14 02:17 PM
4

/r/fPUA ! being men we are of course clueless , but if you are attractive enough or have good social standing at your school, you are pretty much guaranteed he'll bite , that's all I can say. highest chance of succes is probably to tell him you've been thinking about being FWB's or whatever when you are both out on a night of partying. you should be able to get laid that night if the guy is anything like any male friend I have
/r/seduction25/03/14 02:06 PM
4

sweet post ! as an expert C-walker and amateur hip hop- dancer this is music to my ears. get out there and bust some moves guys. do it for me
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:58 PM
6

your many options : disarm. " ooh I think someone is getting jelly " disqualify. " no way, I'm way out of [target]'s league " , " I flirt with all my (hot) friends " , " I'm just doing it so she doesn't get mad when I start hitting on you " escalate. hug target while facing the friend(s) in a " look how cute we are " - way and say " (you think) we'd make a good couple huh (?) " or go the other way; " hell no , I'd never flirt with [target] , she's my little sister ! )
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:53 PM
3

yep, now that they've compared you two I think it's your meticulous attention to detail ( someone called it over-analysing ) that is scaring everyone. me not so much
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:41 PM
3

if you broaden the meanings enough that can be said of all of us at /r/sed
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:38 PM
-7

we have the scale for a reason, but no one is going to give you shit for approaching a girl that isn't a unanimous HB , but you yourself are attracted to
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:37 PM
1

Hee , heehee
/r/seduction25/03/14 12:48 AM
1

that is a really "doesn't-fuck-up-my-brain" way of looking at it ! I think I might start doing so myself :D
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:53 AM
2

not an easy one .... hmm it would be explained perfectly if you can confirm that she was pretty drunk. when girls get too drunk and get a text from a dude they met the night before they are mad prone to "buyer's remorse" , because they are not sure they liked you because of you or because of the alcohol. or they are ashamed they let themselves go too much because they were drunk and you are now getting the " I'm not a slut" treatment. if she was very sober ( remember, some people can fake it rea…
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:49 AM
1

solid advice. might even want to overcompensate and treat the hotties "worse" than the low-level HB's because the sHB's will probably know they are attractive and have a bitch shield and/or require a neg or (false) disqualifier or two . don't you think ? also why do we still refer to women under HB7 on the scale as " Hot Babes" ? isn't the term HB3 for example an oxymoron ??
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:35 AM
3

oh sorry, I meant doing as well. huh so simply imagining is not enough. good to know
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:19 AM
5

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-empathic-misanthrope/201109/fake-it-til-you-make-it http://lifehacker.com/5987141/faking-powerful-body-language-reduces-stress-and-makes-you-more-confident what the fuck, I had no idea such a fundamental part of game was academically disputed about ! I really buy it cause it annihilated my AA faster than I could believe
/r/seduction23/03/14 11:41 PM
1

no, sorry but no. abundance mentality and being truly desired are related, but that's about it. I agree a person that has a reason to experience abundance mentality might have an easier time getting into the mindset, but it is not impossible for someone who isn't desired in the least to achieve. acting more confident has been proven to be a gateway to actual confidence. an unconfident dude will be greatly helped by course-of-action , step-by-step advice , but he definitely also needs to hear tha…
/r/seduction23/03/14 11:25 PM
2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmVK6LJUL9E 50 cent - first date . blast this while getting dressed in front of my mirror. usually requires more than one runtime because I inevitably start dancing or flexing or something instead of getting dressed haha in any case after i do this little ritual I'm a fucking beast for the rest of the night
/r/seduction23/03/14 02:53 PM
2

you don't fuck with the lifestream
/r/seduction23/03/14 02:41 PM
0

let's just say I would not expect a call from her if I were you... next time you have a girl's phone in your hands call yourself to play it safe
/r/seduction23/03/14 02:06 PM
1

if you're into the whole showing vulnerability thing then I'm pretty sure there is no better line then looking in her eyes smiling and saying " I'm sorry, I stutter/get nervous around pretty/beautiful women." if it were me I'd totally follow that up with a neg though.
/r/seduction23/03/14 01:25 PM
2

maye you need a routine of things you say from opener up to building rapport that you can practice on your own and perfect until you don't get so nervous anymore
/r/seduction23/03/14 01:22 PM
1

never give your number unless you don't expect her to contact you or she is very sexually agressive
/r/seduction23/03/14 01:00 PM
4

bake cupcakes ? are you gay or something ?
/r/seduction23/03/14 12:57 PM
2

totally just my opinion and what I personally (would) do. however it does resonate with a lot of PUA-approved material like self-confidence , direct approach , telegraphing interest etc.
/r/seduction23/03/14 04:03 AM
1

two things : please give her some serious shit for never answering you. do it for me. your time is fucking valuable and she should be grateful that you spend some of it on her goddammit. two, sounds like you are in best case very close to being friendzoned and in worst case already mayor of Friendtown . you need to switch things up and telegraph your romantic interest hard and quickly . I'm talking stamp " FUCK ME " on your forehead hard. no matter what you do keep the frame " I want to date you…
/r/seduction23/03/14 04:01 AM
7

unless she's super hot or something why not just effortlessly find the next best girl ? your desire for her is completely in your head, I can tell you that much, because we always want what we can't have. that said, send her a text saying that you saw X today and it reminded you of her and state that you two should get back in touch at some party or event you're both going to or ask her to hang out right away.
/r/seduction23/03/14 03:51 AM
6

ask. " Are you flirting with me ( or just being nice for your job ) ? " alfa as fuck imo :D
/r/seduction23/03/14 03:46 AM
1

sounds like you're bound to run into her on the street one day. don't hesitate
/r/seduction23/03/14 03:42 AM
1

in my mind what happened is that your girl was getting hung up on you and wanting you to text her ( which is good , we want them thinking about us, hoping for us to contact them and being happy when we do ) , her roommate noticing this and discussing it with the gay dude, who , meaning well, but not knowing shit about the game , told you to text her more. you gave in .
/r/seduction23/03/14 03:39 AM
1

it's pretty vague in my opinion... some of their views resonate with me but I wish they had a manifesto or something, because when I'd read anything TRP-related oftentimes I feel like I'm missing the point and / or the underlying philosophy. that beig said I wouldn't know how to describe them better than using a comparison. you have your average dude , then there is us, /r/seduction, who interact differently with women and I think a step even further with those differences would be /r/theredpill…
/r/seduction23/03/14 03:30 AM
1

I always do what seems most fun to me when presented with a choice, not even necessarily only with with women. try to check yourself every five minutes or so and ask yourself if this is the most fun you can be or the most fun you can be having.
/r/seduction20/03/14 10:49 AM
6

"She's coming over to meet my roommate Jerry" who is a decorated potted orchid with sunglasses and a goofy hat
/r/seduction19/03/14 02:41 PM
1

always leave a girl in a better state than you were when you found her is what I say...
/r/seduction18/03/14 10:09 PM
1

either grab her eye contact and smile then approach her when you see her again ( "I saw you yesterday right ? I thought I should introduce myself , or do you want to keep flirting from a distance ? " ) or just walk up to her the next time you see her. ( "hi, I've noticed you around here before, you look like someone I want to meet " )
/r/seduction18/03/14 09:23 PM
1

for me it's being a social butterfly. like coming into a place and immediately saying hello to people I know, introducing myself to any friends with them I don't know yet and moving on to even meet complete strangers ( I befriend people extremely easily ) until I'm just constantly hopping around going from group to group and introducing people to each other... as opposed to coming in with one group of friends and staying with them the whole time and knowing exactly how your night is going to go.…
/r/seduction18/03/14 07:04 PM
1

I have the exact same view of the female gender and it hasn't bothered me at all. if you have dark suspiscions about what women are really up to, then don't make those your girlfriends. you don't have to open yourself up to and be vulnerable to seduce someone
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:54 PM
-2

expensive restaurant if you can afford it and artsy bar ( to show you're more than materialism) after
/r/seduction17/03/14 06:09 PM
2

"don't hate the player, hate the game." so play to win. bang them all and don't look back
/r/seduction17/03/14 06:06 PM
1

You gain courage by talking to girls. exactly. I'd argue that there is a silver bullet here : to use your metaphor ,he's not going to become a chess grandmaster because he's not even playing chess. all he needs to do is start playing the game
/r/seduction17/03/14 04:52 PM
1

what you have is a a non-problem. in your post you meticulously identify your weaknesses and you know damn well how to adress them. ( hint : do not make the mistakes you know you make ) so get out there and do it !!! you're not like some of the other guys here who are having a problem like for example " I can't conversate longer than 5 minutes with a girl " or " how can I escalate kino ? " . these are real problems without easy fixes. your problem is not like these, because you already know the …
/r/seduction17/03/14 04:47 PM
13

this is really good. seriously, a theory I haven't seen before, which I could very easily imagine working. you should have chosen a less cheesy title, this is the cutting edge of PUA and psychology, I love it ! will use
/r/seduction17/03/14 04:40 PM
1

sub-optimally . :( it fucking sucks. I tell her I'd seduce her if the music wasn't so loud, then leave, then come back later as if perchance and act surprised she's still there and say I want to take her somewhere more quiet
/r/seduction17/03/14 04:33 PM
2

I want you to know I laughed so hard.
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:39 PM
1

I think you "struck out" because if you really think about it, guys don't talk like that to each other :D "what up." would have probably gotten you a lot further than the whole line you gave the dude ( I wouldn't be surprised if he thought you were trying to pick him up :P ) That being said, we all know very well just being good-looking does not constitute being a player, so chances are you would have ended up teaching him . You're better off asking one of the people you already know who is very…
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:37 PM
2

that first one sounds pretty AFC honestly. I'd turn it into the classic " Would you like to kiss me ? " (you know, with the 3 outcomes) this is really a golden line in my opinion. second one sounds cool though ;)
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:26 PM
5

.7 ; I always say "Never ask permission for something you can apologize for later. ..... Never apologize."
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:22 PM
3

you let it slide off of you like water. Don't react negatively; you don't care that some try-hard is trying to amog you because your state of true alpha is unaffected. Crack a smile, laugh at yourself, say " good one" with a hint of condescension. you don't need to bring others down to feel good about yourself, you're better than that and you already won if you have this mindset. an example : by far the insult/diss i get the most is that " I'm gay " . okay, fine. I just chuckle and say " oh yeah…
/r/seduction17/03/14 03:18 PM
-1

same night ! before going to bed ( girls usually go home sooner than me ) : " Hey ! Thought I would text you now cause i might forget tomorrow ;) #optional random inside joke# hear you later ;) x " then let them make the next move. It's nice to wake up to a text
/r/seduction16/03/14 01:36 AM
1

being seen talking to many attractive girls and making out with a few of them has not affected my reputation badly in the only bar i go to often
/r/seduction13/03/14 11:34 PM
1

just kiss her the next time you see her and take it from there. sounds like she's attracted enough
/r/seduction12/03/14 05:03 PM
1

she's just pushing you . keep the frame and say something like " oh you should totally date him then " or " sounds perfect for you, can I be the best man at your wedding ? "
/r/seduction12/03/14 04:55 PM
1

what questions ?
/r/seduction12/03/14 04:53 PM
-5

wow , surreal . then again, i know engineering students... good job being the exception and having balls. still can't believe a 10 would be sitting alone for 20 minutes :0
/r/seduction12/03/14 04:08 PM
1

yeah okay. you're going to have to try and ease it in when you first meet someone. you can be yourself later on, but to make a great first impression you're going to have to let them do more of the talking. force yourself to ignore your impulses at first and obligate yourself to wait to speak until the person you're talking to has said a full sentence. try to speak in phrases(statements) that are shorter than the sentences you are listening to. once they get to know you you can start to be more …
/r/seduction12/03/14 04:06 PM
4

Kiss me I'm not Irish. I've kissed the Blarney Stone. Want a taste ? :D
/r/seduction11/03/14 03:01 PM
2

the painstakingly horrible way you spell them
/r/seduction11/03/14 01:05 AM
1

we're about self-improvement too right ? nothing wrong with smelling nice every day. my everyday pick would have to be Abercrombie&Fitch's "Fierce" then the $$$ ones for special occasions. But dude. GUCCI . DOLCE & GABBANA. seriously.
/r/seduction10/03/14 09:42 PM
16

fucking hell, me too. It's not even because I don't have the attention span. but all these long vids can so easily be summarised in 10 minutes if you cut out all the fluffing
/r/seduction10/03/14 07:08 PM
4

well you've obviously not done it on purpose, but i think "not giving a fuck" is the mentality constructed by "outcome independance" + "abundance mentality" while still keeping your core values and morals , not " be a doormat and don't give a fuck " . perhaps in your example someone who really gets the "IDGAF"-theory would have sent the disrespectful girl on her way without a second thought ? it all reminds me very much of "Don't Be a Social Robot"
/r/seduction10/03/14 07:03 PM
-2

I'd dare to call her out (if my bullshit detector went off) and roll my eyes saying " oh I'm sure a hole in your schedule will miraculously appear"
/r/seduction10/03/14 04:29 PM
1

Yeah I know, i was just trying to grasp what OP meant
/r/seduction10/03/14 02:36 PM
1

you should definitely be the leader, but i'm not sure about the idea of making a move before getting the IOI's. they exist for a reason
/r/seduction10/03/14 12:33 AM
1

it's cool. that sting is what you're going to think of the next time the chance arises
/r/seduction10/03/14 12:31 AM
3

so like " I'm going to club X on saturday, come with me ? " ?
/r/seduction10/03/14 12:23 AM
3

your options: 1) fuck that, find a better girl that deserves you 2) make plans and regardless of her showing up or not, make plans with people or another girl who won't flake and when she texts you either to ask where you are or to cancel, text back that you're sorry(case 1 ) or that you don't mind (case 2) because you're already chilling with other people as you anticipated her cancelling. I'd probably do this myself because you can imagine it will drive her crazy and completely steals the fram…
/r/seduction09/03/14 05:21 PM
3

bitch shield. basically /thread my friend. she sounds hot tho
/r/seduction09/03/14 05:13 PM
2

just use the notes on your smartphone. I just all add them to contacts and delete any last names. idgaf
/r/seduction08/03/14 10:43 PM
5

If you're in luck she'll do something that you can tease her for. ( spill a drink , mispronounce something, dance goofy, stare at you/ away from you, not have any money to buy you a drink ) If not you can tease her when you get her to qualify herself to you ; tease her about her career, hobby, academic performances, friends, habits, fashion sense,.... remember it doesn't have to make sense. if she's a great student you can tease her about being a nerd. the dumber your comment, the more she will …
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:01 PM
2

I'd rather they wouldn't or at least not tell me if they were. I really don't care that makes me a hypocrite. it's just a concept constructed by society
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:25 AM
1

same spot as you. told her how i felt after like three years. she didn't want to start things up romanticall but we're still best friends because she is that fantastic a person
/r/seduction08/03/14 01:04 AM
2

just shoot them a ( ONE. ) text to setup a second meeting. You should try to be more casual than eager and many would advise to not reply right away. act as if you have a lot of stuff going on in your life and you are actually doing them a big favor by making time for them. don't wait too long or they'll forget you ! what I do is I text the same night. that way i can wake up to a reply and it's easy to go from there. maybe your problem is not text game but night game ? I was reading an interesti…
/r/seduction08/03/14 01:00 AM
3

....nothing
/r/seduction08/03/14 12:50 AM
1

make new ones. odds are they will be
/r/seduction04/03/14 07:45 PM
2

imagine whenever you see her that she is a grain of rice and continue with your day as you would otherwise
/r/seduction04/03/14 07:44 PM
1

"This texting is fun but let's chat in person . You know, with the three dimensions, and the talking instead of reading a phone and stuff ? [If you're feeling ballsy:] because you're a bad texting conversationalist :P ! How about X at Y-time ? I invited you once already so I'm not going to ask a third time " take from that what you want and need. If she declines again without giving a damn good reason she's keeping you on a leash and you should let some other poor sap deal with her shit
/r/seduction04/03/14 07:43 PM
1

remember to not make yourself too eager / readily available , get her to chase you next time you text. go something like " Hey there ! this week is pretty swamped for me; monday and tuesday won't work, but how about wednesday-EVENING ( insinuate that wednesday is busy too ) ? . " furthermore : consider flaking too , if she blows you off again don't forget your abundance mentality and let her feel what a catch she missed.
/r/seduction04/03/14 07:37 PM
1

So I K-closed this girl at a bar the other night but she wouldn't give me her number. Is this a thing ? I always figured the kiss to be higher up on the escalation ladder than the number ? Did she no want to leave a breadcrumb trail because she has a boyfriend ? Did she regret kissing me ? I was prett confused for the rest of fifteen of minutes that night
/r/seduction04/03/14 07:27 PM
1

I think you need to find a type of person you are most comfortable with. It's normal for most but a select few to just not click with everyone for some internalised reason. the more you go out and get to know people the easier it will become and the more you'll start to notice what kind of people gravitate towards you and who you can feel comfortable around. hope this somewhat answers your pretty vague question
/r/seduction04/03/14 07:09 PM
3

amen. The shit-test is the first thing I learned about pickup and I still regard it as the foundation of any interaction with a target because of how it contrasts everything I used to do wrong.
/r/seduction04/03/14 06:52 PM
5

there is no one kind of way. in pickup there are what you could call different "schools" of seduction, probably based on who invented the style. So there are a few questions you need to ask yourself. Most importantly; do you want to be direct ? Do you want to be more old school and use an indirect opener ? Will you have to open a set ( group of people ) or did you happen to find a HB standing alone ? ( If you chose option 2 here, tell me where the fuck you live ;) ] What kind of pickup are you m…
/r/seduction03/03/14 02:49 PM
1

something is bound to pop-up in your head. just say that, simple. it doesn't even matter what it is. Everyone has an inner monologue, right ? My guess is that you like many others are supressing yours by stressing and actively going " holy shit, what do i say ?! What the hell do I say now, come on brain !!! GOOD GOD BABY JESUS WHAT DO I SAY?!?!?!? IUDIOHIVF" I mean, just look at her. Any impressions ? no ? Look around you. Something particular to comment on ? How about yourself ? Did anything at…
/r/seduction02/03/14 06:13 PM
1

Dancing is so undervalued here. It's one of the greatest weapons in a guys arsenal, doesn't matter if it's the start, middle or end of a pickup. The physical contact, the sensuality, the value-building of dancing with a hot girl or showing the "same old two-step"- idiots around you that you actually have some moves ... Not to mention there is no single way to isolate better than to lock eyes with a girl and be the only two things in the universe for the 3 minutes of that one song. Dancing is the…
/r/seduction02/03/14 03:27 AM
1

I'm willing to bet 0.000% of girls will instantly shut a disabled person down if they show they have the balls to make an approach.
/r/seduction02/03/14 03:09 AM
2

there is nothing creepy about a guy asking a girl he knows out. nothing. It's probably all the bullshit on the side you ( and so many other guys ) do that is triggering the creeper alert
/r/seduction28/02/14 03:37 PM
1

see it as practice
/r/seduction27/02/14 06:12 PM
1

you're determined, you'll get there.
/r/seduction27/02/14 06:03 PM
1

try what I do : You want to go from funny to sexually escalating , right ? Make a sex joke ( or a dating joke if you're not feeling brazen enough ) . This leads to playful kino extremely easily as while she's laughing you can poke her, hug her, grab her arm, hold her upright / lean on her to not buckle down laughing yourself. From there you can really start flirting. use eye contact and more kino ( If she was responsive !!! ) at this stage. I also start cracking jokes like " so when are we getti…
/r/seduction25/02/14 04:17 PM
1

1) do something interesting once a day you can talk passionately about. 2) " Hey so you know, today I [this and that] and it was awesome. " possible 3) " OH , so you don't find this incredibly fascinating thing interesting ? Fine, what do YOU like then ? "
/r/seduction25/02/14 04:04 PM
52

conventional pickup artistry says approach whenever, wherever the fuck you feel like it
/r/seduction24/02/14 06:34 PM
1

totally with you. I'm just talking first date here. I instapay. then we can see how she reacts
/r/seduction24/02/14 06:26 PM
1

If you feel like there is something we, internet strangers, are failing to adress, maybe you could try a few lessons from a professional PUA ? there's bound to be one near you somewhere. You already know the theory so I bet you could progress quicker than most. I just think we can't give great advice because we can't see you going at it and you description is very far from detailed enough...
/r/seduction24/02/14 06:24 PM
1

Better believe I'm paying for everything. All the stuff about acting as if she would be lucky to have you we always promote; I actually believe it. I'm quite a catch, so I'm going to act the part.
/r/seduction24/02/14 06:09 PM
0

Quand-mEme en tout cas ils manquent les mots corrects en anglais dans le texte pour mieux "traduire" cet idee je crois...
/r/seduction24/02/14 01:17 PM
1

exactly
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:45 AM
1

I'd like to add that you should also never be afraid to just set a point when you feel like enough is enough and say something that boils down to " fine, fuck you then . " . Make her feel like it's her loss, abundance mentality and all that.
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:13 AM
-1

I'm with this guy. dafuq girl??
/r/seduction23/02/14 11:31 PM
2

well then just hang around and click the submissions I'd say! but to get the ball rolling here , off the top of my head : A trick that can be classified as seduction and persuasion; I've completely stopped asking girls questions or better yet, permission. Statements and orders work so much better than questions and requests . Women respond to the authority and self-assuredness. So next time you find yourself about to ask "May I please have your number?" or some other bullshit , instead state " H…
/r/seduction23/02/14 05:31 PM
1

i laughed...
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:11 PM
4

me too. I reply that I keep the bullshit funny text crap to a minimum because I have better things to do and I'd rather interact with people in person.
/r/seduction23/02/14 03:00 PM
1

hahahaha bless your soul :) hope you had fun
/r/seduction23/02/14 02:51 PM
1

2rules : "Never ask permission for what you can apologize for later" "Never apologize" :D EDIT: my two cents : Tell her to go find HER friends and you'll catch up later, Say your friends are looking very jealous / mad you left them , Tell her you need to go get drunk / the next round of drinks, Say you just spotted a friend/coworker come in you just have to say hi to, Crack a joke like " I need some alone time" , " I gotta go take my meds" , etc.. Be creative, you'll think of something
/r/seduction22/02/14 11:16 PM
1

If she messaged you and you have this indifferent feeling consider flaking once to increase attraction.
/r/seduction18/02/14 03:06 PM
4

I'll give you "amazing" being a subjective term, but it saddens me the world has spun to a point where beautiful girls who are also down to earth are considered a myth and you have unrealistic expectations for wanting one :(
/r/seduction16/02/14 11:02 PM
1

"maybe" means "work for it" in my experience. You're probably still closer to a yes than a no at that point so (be confident ! and) literally write " I'll take that as a yes, are you free X at Ypm ? "
/r/seduction16/02/14 10:57 PM
1

"well fuck her then" and you move on. seriously, not responding verbally or in written form after having been adressed is incredibly rude, you don't want that
/r/seduction16/02/14 09:22 PM
1

thorough. GOOD JAAB
/r/seduction16/02/14 09:08 PM
0

wow let's all downvote this guy
/r/seduction15/02/14 11:03 PM
2

I just don't change the facial expression I have before making eye contact, but it depends on your resting face. having to crack half a smile differs from person to person
/r/seduction15/02/14 10:00 PM
3

i thought the same thing when i read that haha. Similar field of research does not mean same approach
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:44 PM
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not a tip, more like practice , but a friend of mine who is also new to seddit and may or may not be you ( also twenties, also N. EU ) sent me this link for day game improvement ;) have a look http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/18ba40/a_list_of_fun_useful_social_games/
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:34 PM
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It's a joke. It proposes the comical idea that I , much like that other commenter, believe that ghostbusters was not a fictional movie but real. It builds on the joke HappyJerk already made about an obviously fake movie not really happening to prove his point. I hope I cleared that out well for you
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:55 PM
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yeah, it could have been faked FTFY !!
/r/seduction12/02/14 06:34 PM
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I, also, send my HI5 to your mother. Gonna remember that for basically all my friends
/r/seduction12/02/14 02:52 PM
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Well, you sound like you know what you did wrong and what you would do differently this time, so this far you're good. Give it a shot as soon as you can or the opportunity will pass. As for the old man, he obviously wants to meet you because he is concerned about the age difference. Be cordial and set him at ease. Just don't become his new BFF
/r/seduction11/02/14 06:26 PM
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Moral greyish zone but you could try to excite a little jealousy. Not talking "start seeing other women" - jealousy, but stuff like being less available, going out with other (girl)friends instead of a date with her; anything that could "inflate your stock" and spur her to put in a little effort to keep you around. Have a friend in similar situation with a single mom. Remember moms have different priorities . From what I hear you've got to understand that no matter what the kid will always come …
/r/seduction11/02/14 06:16 PM
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" depends, if you want to have an epic night guaranteed, come out with us tonight ! " best i can do reading the description
/r/seduction11/08/13 08:19 PM
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While I share your opinion I'd rather see /r/mensrights kept a place for thoughtful, civil discussion. Don't give in to the hate
/r/MensRights03/06/13 12:01 AM
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