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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:52 PM
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Not really what I said but ok. In my view, blue pill is not incorrect, just omits certain things in order to appear more virtuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:45 PM
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How does that work if different Red Pill dudes believe different things? Mate I feel like you are being a bit obtuse. It works the same way as any "movement" that becomes too big. For example, there are feminists who believe in casual sex and there are feminists who do not believe in it. You can see things "correctly" and not identify as red pill because you do not like other things associated with the red pill or specifically red pillers. Same way there are people who believe in equality betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:01 AM
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The problem with "redpill" is that everyone has their own definition of what red pill is and unless someone actually defines what they consider to be red pill the discussions become meaningless. There are people who think conservatives = red pill, or tradcons = red pill, or mens rights activists = red pill. My definition of red pill is based on the movie the matrix, where blue pill is the place of blissful ignorance and red pill is the truth, IN RELATION TO ATTRACTION. i.e. this is what women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:47 PM
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u/Juventus_x what red pill claim are you questioning or arguing against? Path A - Seems very red pill, if you believe that red pill says men should spin plates. Path B - Seems red pill also, if you believe red pill says men should cheat as long as they have the option to. Path C - Seems red pill. Since these guys are attractive, they get to chose whom they want to be with and they clearly chose that person. You might find that person "average", but clearly that man sees her more than just averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:55 PM
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< you're not a prostitute > Actually...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:29 PM
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When it comes to maturity, I think you touched on it, "Responsibility" defines maturity, that and agreeableness I believe. Reason I say responsibility defines maturity is because, if you take 2 men, one is married and has 3 kids while the other is single; and they both work the same job and earn the same amount of money. The one that is single will be seen as immature compared to the family man, especially if the single one is happy and living a good life according to himself, while the one supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:26 PM
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Stop lying OP. The post you are referring to was not about women accepting rejection and men being upset about it. Link to post https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1kh2t4y/men_need_to_be_aware_that_they_are_easily/ The post you are talking about was saying something like "hey men, if you are going to insist on going 50/50 on dates and not paying for the first date, you will easily be replaced by a man who will". The post was about shaming men and telling them they are easily replac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:57 PM
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And how are women encouraged to be asexual? Last time I checked, slut-shaming of women is about women being sluts, not women having sex within a relationship. Just because someone is not a slut does not mean they are asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:19 PM
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I am confused by this post. Are you saying that men (the ones struggling) are not having sex because women are not encouraged to be whores?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:53 PM
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Got some time to kill, so I will engage. Generally, the phrase "men do not care about education/career" does not mean men want dumb or broke women. It simply means an unattractive woman does not become attractive based on her education. Maybe other men do want broke women, but most I believe just mean that a good woman is a good woman regardless of her educational or career background. Thus "men do not care about education or career" phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:09 AM
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Who is trying to make it a women problem that men have low standards? How are they trying to make it a women's problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:50 PM
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Alternative title. Marriage is bad for men because their income decreases by 20% while it increases for women. It seems the article talks about available income not a salary increase. Basically, men spend more in the marriage while women gain financially from being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:21 PM
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Let me try this, hope you do not relate to this example. Let say your parent dies. They die either through a disease, or someone murders them. In each scenario, death is the reality. However, what brought about the death will invoke different feelings in yourself and you will deal with either scenario differently from the other. Yes there will be shared feelings in both scenarios, but there will be feelings unique to death via disease and unique feelings relating to someone murdering them. Simil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:19 PM
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they don't want you. Why is this so difficult to understand? An unavailable person did not say they do not want you. They are unavailable because they are already in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:52 PM
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people they aren’t attracted to. You are so close to getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:50 PM
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One is simple unavailability, the other is rejection. Rejection is personal, unavailability is not. If you do not understand the difference there's nothing I can say further.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:39 PM
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Just because it won't escalate to something romantic doesn't mean I don't still enjoy those qualities I liked about them in friendship. But that's the thing, the people who do end the friendship recognise that they will continue to enjoy the qualities they like about this person even more, and it will hurt that they can only enjoy them on the friendship level while they want more. I'll make a silly example, let's compare love for someone to hunger for specific food. It is easier to deal with hun…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:37 PM
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There's a difference between someone being in a relationship already and someone not wanting to be with YOU specifically. One is simply unavailability of said person, the other is a clear rejection of your romantic interest. Also, there's people who are able to remain friends with their ex's, some people prefer not to engage with their ex's at all, neither are right or wrong, same thing with this friend rejection thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:35 PM
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Well, like you said, you named a few things, so did I. Those things do happen, and again from experience, they happen with the intention to get the person in a state where they want to talk, not simply clearing the mind. But you did mention that you do not like to talk a lot, so that aligns with you. Being there for someone does not always mean to be physically present. Most men want to be alone when going through hardships. That might be a bad thing, but that is what they want. So, like I said,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 11:17 PM
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I'm not sure I fully agree with the "mutually considerate" part. I can be considerate of someone going through a tough time, but recognise that no matter what I say will not alleviate the issue, so decide to spend less time on that problem and leave it to that individual to sort it out, because that is something I would want in that situation where someone's words will not solve the issue, but give them the assurance that when they want to talk or want to do something, I would be available. In m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:56 PM
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Men have their moms call to check in on them too. Sure, but you cannot expect a man to just unlearn what he grew up getting accustomed to. Meaning, if you raise a boy to always solve his own problems and to "man up", once they reach adulthood, you can't just say "alright you can stop that now and start talking about your problems more often". People are creatures of habit, sure habits can be broken, but that requires a need in the individual to change those habits. How do you tell someone who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:53 PM
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I used to be neutral to therapy but have come to hate it based on how people talk about it, acting as if anyone and everyone should go to one. What you are saying basically is; CBT therapy says, we are here and trying to get here, this is how we go there. We fix this, change that, discard this and so on. While talk therapy is, we are here, how did we get here, why are we still here, and this is where we should be. A lot of men (and we're not a monolith either) don't want to hear there's a proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:22 PM
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You say you are a therapist, quick question. What kind of issues need a therapist? Is it issues that start with "how" or issues that start with "why"? My personal opinion, issues that start with "how" rarely need a therapist. However, the ones that start with "why" do need a therapist even though that will lead to the how part as well. Example, a guy gets road rage, he acts out on his road rage negatively. A guy is made to be angry by someone, he acts out negatively to that. This person knows ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:48 PM
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Alright, that's all I wanted to know. If I do nice things for women that I would not do for men I actually hate all women. Good chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:01 PM
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Mind you, I am only doing this because she is a woman This is what I said in the comment, I am only doing it because she is a woman. If I hold a door open for a woman because she is a woman, do I hate her and other women alike?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:42 PM
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"dehumanization", "objectification"(I know you didn't say objectification) these are just some feminist favourite buzzwords. Let me ask you this direct question which requires a simple yes or no. If I see a beautiful woman standing wearing high hills while I am sitting down, and I decide to offer up my sit so she can rest and not have to stand for too long. Mind you, I am only doing this because she is a woman, and a beautiful woman at that. Does that mean I hate women, does that make me a misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:07 PM
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Benevolent sexism is benevolent sexism, not misogyny. If I am sitting in a que somewhere with limited sits and a woman comes ques behind me but has no chair and I stand up and let her sit because she is a woman, that is benevolent sexism. Does that mean I hate women? i.e. does that mean I am a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 04:11 PM
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Both are misogynistic. Wow, so misogyny has evolved so much that if men think women are wonderful it means they are misogynistic? Can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:44 PM
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Questions, how do you differentiate between a feminist and a trad woman? Do you believe that women who prefer to stay at home are not feminists? Do you think a woman simply working and having career goals automatically makes her a feminist? feminist women is they care less about masculine gender norms. Do you think that because a woman is a feminist that takes away the fact that she is a woman and is attracted to men? Are feminist not turned on by masculine men? Are feminists only interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:36 AM
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So kind of like moving the goal post?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 08:37 AM
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Men always bad, have you not been paying attention? This is like some women saying they will not have sex in protest of the Trump win because they do not want to have sex with men who want to take away their rights. Firstly, most men are not trying to take away anyone's rights. Secondly, people were already selecting romantic and sexual partners based on political beliefs. This means that the people who will be affected by the "sex strike" if it is real, will be liberal men since even before the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:43 PM
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They do, but they don't have it. I'll end here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:22 PM
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The point I was trying to make is less about the hours and more about the other parties involved in your relationship. Do you take into account what the kids want when you define have it all? Because you might be able to be happy or convince yourself that you are happy with the family arrangement you have, but are the kids happy? is the husband happy? Going back to men, a lot of kids wished they could have spent more time with their dads growing up, but said dads were consumed by work and can on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:13 PM
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Your commitments to being a wife to your husband, based on your agreed upon vows and relationship goals. So if your career requires you to be at work 12 hours and at home awake for 4 hours that qualifies as having it all if you are happy with that arrangement? Nevermind that the kids might be hoping that they can spend more time with said parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:53 PM
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What does that mean to "have it all"? I do not think men ever had it all. Men spent too much time at work and little time at home. Does that mean the man has it all if his time is being consumed by work and less time spent with family? These men also probably missed most of their kids "first" because of work commitments. Does that mean you have it all when you miss some or most of your child's development and important days, like school plays, sports and other things? If you are not there to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:27 PM
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Disagree on the incel part. The majority of paying customers on onlyfans are married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:32 PM
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Because the child did not grow inside him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:26 PM
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The concern is about the man raising his child, getting certainty. If the concern is infidelity, doing the paternity test only is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:47 PM
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The paternity test is for certainty about the child. If the concern is about cheating, stopping at the paternity test is meaningless, there are a lot of childless cheaters. Hence the topic, paternity tests are weak infidelity checks. Do you agree or disagree with the statement in the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:39 PM
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It’s still an accusation of infidelity, but also deception, malice, exploitation and immorality It can prove infidelity, but to find out if that was the concern of the man it would depend on whether the man does other things to find out if infidelity occurred. If he only stops at the test, then infidelity was not his major concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:34 PM
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Will do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:29 PM
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If you compare men today to men in the past, say 50 or more years ago, I'd say men today are less likely to want kids than those men. When comparing men today to women today, I'd say more women are more vocal about not wanting kids than men are, so it gives the perception that men are more inclined to want kids. Men know they would like kids one day, thus do not rule out the option. Women seem adamant about whatever choices they feel at whatever stage they are in. i.e. when a young woman says sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:15 PM
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Guaranteed and easier/better are not the same thing. I did not say it guarantees success. So you disagree that younger women are normally immature and prefer excitement over stability? (and before you say it, this is not a all woman do this or that) There was a post on twitter which made its way to reddit about a woman who gave his boyfriend a compliment saying he is husband material and not hook up material, she would have never hooked up with him or used him as a FWB but now later on as she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:12 AM
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Do you agree or disagree that both RP and BP essentially believe that dating for men will be better as they get older?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:52 PM
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Seems like the wording of the post is getting to a lot of people. I was not trying to say just wait and do nothing, but essentially to say that dating will be better for men as they get older. This seems to be what both RP and BP believe in, but for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:50 PM
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Yeah I understand that statement about "there is someone for everyone". But remember, BP is suppose to be those that disagree with the RP according to latest definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:46 PM
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Never said they don't. Advice is normally given to those that are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:41 PM
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So your issue with the post is the wording?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:37 PM
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The point of the post is saying that women like mature guys, hence why I said both RP and BP advice the guy that dating will be better once he matures. The stable guy is seen as mature, while the unstable guy is seen as immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:34 PM
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So your issue with the post is the wording not the content? Also, why assume that the problem was the guy? Its been said multiple times that young women like exciting guys and as they grow their priorities change to the more "stable" guys. So if the guy was the stable guy from the beginning (husband material) then he would have less luck compared to the exciting, live for the day type of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:29 PM
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Ok, but what if the like minded women are the mature women that blue pillers normally talk about? Meaning, if say in high school and college, the women in your age range are majority all about the party life while the guy is not, but after 5 years post college, those women are now no longer party girls and basically like minded to the guy. The guy in this scenario had to wait until the women grew out of the party phase. ​ "Guys your age are immature, focus on other things and wait until you're a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:51 PM
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If you read the post, the details name other things like working out and making money, which require time, thus essentially waiting. Same with maturity, for women to mature time is required. The post does not say just sit and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:43 PM
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So women like older men? which means men need to wait till older to find success in dating? I do not think one can just change a baby face to look more mature, unless I am missing something
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:41 PM
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You disagree that bluepillers say men should date mature women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:38 PM
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Like I said in another comment, hating people similar to yourself does not count as "self" hatred when that person believes themselves to be different from those people. i.e. if a woman says "women suck because they do not like sports" and the woman saying that likes sports, than she does not hate herself because she does like sports. This is like saying people who drive cars have self-hatred when they complain and hate on other drivers whom they deem are unable to drive on the road. If a gay pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:35 PM
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I have not changed my mind on anything, and that is not the real question here. The question is, why a man "is", while a woman "has" Why is there different wording? Do you know or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:02 PM
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Of course the man can change,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:09 PM
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Because of the wording. He "IS" a misogynist. For women, she "HAS" misogyny or internalised misogyny. Of course the man can change, but the wording is different when describing men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:57 PM
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What work? If we use the pick me example, they are known to differentiate themselves from other girls. So, if they hate other girls then they do not hate themselves because they see themselves as different to the other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:54 PM
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So basically they want to single out other women instead of bunching them up with male misogynists? Kind of like a reverse pick me, "She is not like the rest of us girls" type of situation? i.e. when they complain about misogynists they are exclusively complaining about male misogynists. When they want to complain about female misogynists they used the other terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:44 PM
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Like I said, you can, but people do not. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:37 PM
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It's possible for a woman to hate other women while not hating herself. So I do not buy the self-hatred argument. Even if she is a pick-me, why is her hating on other women seen as an illness and not something that she is? Or better yet, why call her a new name 'pick-me' and not straight up misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:35 PM
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Nouns like "internalized misogyny" are things you have. I know, that's the point of the debate. Why does a woman have internalised misogyny while people do not say that the man has misogyny or he has externalised misogyny? Why not just say the woman is a misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:25 PM
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Sure, we all need coping mechanisms. We all also face pressures in the world. Some seem too big even for coping mechanisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:05 AM
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Coping mechanisms do not take away the expectation to have. They help you deal with the discomfort you have, or make you accept the discomforts you have. I had a friend in college who committed suicide. The reasons I do not know. What I do know is he had a good amount of friends and had a present family. The friend group had a healthy amount of both men and women. I do not know what pressures he had or he put on himself that made him do what he did, but he did it either way. Therapy, friends, fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:46 AM
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But the things you mentioned do not need therapy, they just need you to have any person who cares about you talk to you about them. Even then, the solution is to go out there and get. The expectation is still there to "HAVE". If you do not have you have failed. Said failure can cause the man to just end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:25 AM
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Yeah probably
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:19 AM
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To sum up expectations, I'd say Women are expected to "BE" a certain way Men are expected to "HAVE" certain things You can work on "being" a certain way or to accept yourself the way you are without changing through therapy. You cannot therapy your way to "have" certain things. You cannot therapy your way to a high paying job if you do not have such skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:11 AM
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I did not say it affects men more. Stats tell us women attempt suicide more but men are more successful at actually completing the act. So by attempted suicide stats, one may conclude that women are affected by expectations more than men. For men though, the expectations are different to women. Men are still expected to provide and protect. Even if women claim they do not want a provider, a man's income still matters. Women complain about the lack of good men on their level, i.e. lack of good me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:02 AM
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If these women are not talking to these men already it's because they view them as below her, not on her level, i.e. he is unattractive to her. So nothing changes as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:12 PM
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Okay, how would it change? You have not said the how part, you keep saying it will.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:07 PM
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Question, what should men protest against? Do you want to know what are some of the reasons men commit suicide, EXPECTATION. This is my own thought as people who commit suicide probably do not always state why they did it. What expectation? Societal and family expectations. People who often commit suicide probably feel the pressure that they are not meeting or will not meet the expectations placed upon them. They feel like failures, thus the only solution is to end it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:05 PM
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Or maybe they do it because they like having sex with different women. Either way, how would this change how women approach relationships? It won't make them like men they find unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:55 PM
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What are you talking about? Even if men did that, women would still approach men they find attractive, which is what they already do. So nothing changes. Question, how many men do you think will succumb to such "shame" and stop sleeping around? Do you think these men will go around saying "I am so ashamed of the fact that women find me attractive, I will stop entertaining them and only be with one woman"? Last time I checked, men who sleep around are called dogs by women and they do not care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:39 PM
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I wish more people, especially in debate subs, could actually think like this. Sometimes you need to discuss what is and isn't, without trying to put a moral judgement on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:53 PM
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This is not about rich guys, I am saying that women want men who make as much or more as them. They do not seek men who make less then them. Men do not seek women more beautiful than them. just because women love rich guys doesn't mean they compare their incomes to theirs. Women literally say they want men who make as much or more than them. So yes they do compare the guys income to their own. Men do not compare their looks to that of a woman's. How does one go about doing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:20 AM
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Here's my point, when women date up, they look at their financial situation and look for men who are in the same or higher financial situation. i.e. (They compare themselves to the potential man. I make 50k a year, I want someone making 50k or more a year) Men do not look at their attractiveness level and compare that to a woman's. For a man, a woman is either attractive or not, there is no need to compare her looks to his looks. Also, how does one go about comparing a man's looks to that of a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:26 AM
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It's quite simple, 1) everyone wants a good looking partner, so there's not much to debate here. 2) The red pill, whether good or bad, focuses on discussing things that women are attracted to and what men need to do to be attractive. So it makes no sense for them to discuss 'men dating up'. Even then though, redpill also discusses the looks of women, have you not heard them label women whales and such? 3) and this is the most important one, Hypergamy is defined as the action of marring or formin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:16 PM
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my point is: everyone dates up, but for a reason (we all know of ), women are the only ones painted as the evil gold diggers. Well, it is kind of difficult to label men "evil gold diggers" when they are not with women for their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:13 AM
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LOL dude, the problem with these age gap discussions is that there are people who, for some reason, do not consider it an age gap once all parties involved are over 30. Basically, some people will not consider it an age gap if a 60 year old is with a 32 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:16 PM
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To your last paragraph, how much of a woman being overprotective while a man might be more easy going do you think contributes to the idea that women do more emotional labor? Example, men have a reputation of not going to hospitals when they are sick while women seem to always want to seek professional help when they see an issue. If the person who is sick is a child and the father does not see the need for the doctor but when the mother gets back from work and sees the child she decides they sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:10 PM
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Final question from my side, Do you agree that when people talk about emotional labor they really mean domestic work, even though they act like these are two separate things?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:11 PM
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I gave that example to demonstrate that more tasks does not mean more stress, but type of task dictates the amount of stress. My main question is, how do you measure that 1 person has more mental load than the other? It's ok if you think the wife is the manager in the scenario, I still want to know how you would measure mental load?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:03 PM
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But you are still describing more "domestic work" not really more "emotional work". From what I can tell from reading online and from the responses here is that emotional labor = domestic work, but people talk as if these are two separate issues. I am not denying that doing more tasks can add stress, I am asking how would you measure that one person has more stress or mental load than the other? Example, between a manager who has to make sure that the employees have work to do and goes and gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:49 PM
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If emotional labor is mental load, then how do we measure if women do more than men? Physical tasks do not have a direct correlation with emotional load. Someone can do a lot of physical tasks which have less emotional load, while the other can do few but very emotionally taxing tasks. So how do we measure if one is doing more than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:17 PM
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Women generally feel pressured by society to be "nice", keep the peace, manage intrapersonal relationships, and not express their own emotions or needs if it will have a negative impact on others. Men generally feel pressured by society to be stoic and not show their emotions. They have to keep the peace because if they do not things can get physical real quick. Men also have to manage intrapersonal relationships and not express their own emotions or needs if it will have a negative impact on ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:35 PM
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You could have just Googled what it was. That's what I did. So basically being a mother is emotional labor? Does being a father not count as emotional labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:30 PM
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planning doctors appointments, managing the kid’s schedule, keeping the house clean and tidy, keeping tabs of everyone’s emotional states/offering advice or guidance, etc. This is just domestic duties, why does it need an additional name of "emotional labor" as if this is a different task? Do men not offer advice and guidance in relationships? Married men live longer than single men, on average. I’m guessing this is likely the reason. Your average bachelor pad isn’t exactly clean and tidy, fresh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:27 PM
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Caring about and taking care of other people Does this mean men do not care about other people? And who are these other people? especially with regard to socializing We already know that men and women socialize differently, i.e. men and women care about different things with regards to friendships. Women seem to want to do a lot of get togethers while men can go long without talking to a friend and when they do meet the friendship continues as normal. With this in mind, is it really necessary fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:21 PM
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loud minority of feminists You see these people on social media or the news when there are protests, hence why I said loud minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:57 PM
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A lot of comments but few or no answers at all. OP, the reason female body hair is political is because there are a loud minority of feminists who use their body hair as a political statement. Kind of like how if you see a blue haired woman you might automatically think she is a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:47 AM
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I get what you mean by style of communication, but I have seen people question a post that appears to be reasonable but simply goes against what most women would agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:54 PM
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I also have seen posters assume that people who were talking online were women simply for speaking about feminist issues, Did said people mention they are men or had a flair that said they are men? Because I can see why someone might assume that if the person has not mentioned if they are man or woman. My real question though is when it is clear that the person is a woman or man, either through a flair or they mentioned it, why is it that women still question the gender of that person while men …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:59 PM
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Before we had to identify our gender in our tag Well yeah that might explain why they thought so. I am not questioning whether people like having their ideas and opinions validated by the group they align with, I am simply asking why do women resort to questioning the gender while men resort to insults. Hence I asked if you think they assumed you were an actual woman or rather meant it as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:54 PM
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I don’t think this is a gendered thing. I get accused of being a woman when I argue with manosphere dudes. Interesting. Are you sure they assume you actually are a woman or if they are just insulting you by calling you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:41 PM
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Alright, by why is the assumption that the person who posted might not be a woman when they say something that goes against women? Is it because women are suppose to agree with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:38 PM
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Man I can't take you seriously if you argue like this. Define "most" and define "many" I define "most" as more than 50% (depending on the context), and I can guarantee that most men also have not molested anyone at all. "Many" can mean anything that represents a large number, but not necessarily most or majority. If 15 people die in an aeroplane crash that had 100 passengers, you can say many people died but you cannot say most people died. So by this definition, many women have molested someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:38 PM
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Not sure if you are using the term "fragile masculinity" correctly. When I have heard the term, while I don't really like it, it is often used in a situation where the person using it is trying to make the man (basically manipulate him) do something that he is uncomfortable doing. i.e. if a man refuses to wear a pink t-shirt, fragile masculinity. If a man refuses to be all touchy touchy with another man, fragile masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:07 AM
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But everyone was saying the app wasn't really different and the feature didn't do anything substantial. Why would the app need to be different when the complaints were about unwanted messages from men? Nothing about the app itself seemed to be the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:15 PM
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Let me provide you with a recent ruling. A woman attempted to kill her husband. She got 3 years probation, no real jail time. If you read the article, it states that she spent nearly 1 year in jail only because she could not afford bail. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/10/us/melody-felicano-johnson-sentencing-arizona/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:17 PM
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Let me provide you with a recent ruling. A woman attempted to kill her husband and she got 3 years probation, no real jail time. If you read the article, she spent nearly 1 year in jail only because she could not afford bail. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/10/us/melody-felicano-johnson-sentencing-arizona/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:15 PM
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De-normalizing something is not about being shocked by yourself in your head for a few seconds and then continuing on about your day. People need to call it out and keep talking about it and actively shame others for it. And what I am saying is that it does not matter how many times people call out abuse because the abuser will still carry on with the abuse, i.e. we cannot control the abuser, but we can control making ourselves being less of a victim. This is why people address the victim and tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:55 AM
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No it does not. How would people being shocked that a woman was assaulted decrease the act of assault? People already know that assault is wrong, if there is evidence that satisfies the rules of the law, the assaulter will be punished accordingly. Me being shocked that a woman was assaulted will not make the assaulter do the act less, you know why? because that person already knows that assault is wrong yet they do it anyways. So no, assault is not normalised, for it to be normalised would imply…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:59 PM
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I never said it was. To me, there is a difference between a 30yo man dating a 20yo woman, and a 30yo man who only dates 20yo women, same as a 20yo woman who only dates 30yo men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:18 PM
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Yeah, and? The guys are not content with just being decent but rather want to be decent according to women's definition of decent. That's why they do all the things women say they like but do not get the woman, then they say women are liers, join the red pill and so on. Again, OP is not saying men should be indecent, maybe you missed that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:13 PM
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So how can people make hitting a woman not normalised? Let's say the assault incidents increased by 30% in the last year, but everyone was always repulsed by the occurrence of the act, would that make assault not normal? What exactly is your goal by saying violence is normalised?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:08 PM
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I get what OP is saying. Basically too many men are trying to fit into the "this is how I should act according to women" category, instead of just being themselves. OP is not saying men should be indecent. This is a "stop trying to be a nice guy" post. I got to say though, you lost me at using age gap as an advantage. This should come naturally if it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:43 PM
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Firstly, at risk of what? The question does not define the risk, it just states blanket wide that would you rather be with a bear or man. Secondly, when you hear the word strange man, what do you see in your mind? Do you see 35YO loving father with a wife and 3 young girls who love his family with all his heart? Do you see a scrawny 20YO university student who is also a Jehovahs witness and attends all church events that his church has, who is a loyal follower of the Bible and does little to no …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:12 PM
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Why do you keep bringing up the mother talk? Like I said, the woman meets the physical attraction requirements and non physical attraction requirements. Why would there be no chemistry? Answer this one for me, do you think you can have chemistry with someone you don't enjoy spending time with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:03 PM
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If you read the OP, it states that the woman ticks every box, attraction, interests, including me enjoying spending time with them (which is not physical attraction), literally ticks every box; how can there be no chemistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:52 PM
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You still have not defined chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:14 PM
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What is chemistry? If someone ticks all the boxes, why would there be no chemistry? i.e. if one of my boxes is - I enjoy spending time with them - how can there be no chemistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:14 PM
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Ahh, gotcha. The only thing I would agree on is that women do factor emotions to their decision making more so than men, and sometimes emotions only (bear vs man debate), but I would not go as far as to say they are incapable of making logical decisions. If you look at a woman's POV, taking emotions into account makes the decision rational, so I cannot fault them on that a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:06 PM
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Maybe I am having a slow day but I do not understand the post. In what way are men currently stating that femininity is inferior? (I don't follow any eco chambers so maybe this is one of their main talking points) I have seen red pillers claim women are inferior simply because they aren't physically stronger than men, but have not seen men claim femininity is inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:55 PM
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A good age gap is the one that you and the other person are comfortable with. Who is telling you that you "should" date men as old as your dad? or are you simply looking for pros and cons?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 09:21 AM
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Alright cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:14 PM
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Correction, men outside of the internet do not talk about red pill because they do so under anonymous accounts on reddit so they won't do it in real life. Side note, funny how OP is complaining that people in a debate sub are debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:03 PM
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Have you seen how some guys respond when female video game characters aren’t sexy? Sure, and I have seen women complain about female video game characters not being sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:18 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:14 AM
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I'm asking if a woman who does not want to date a man whore is "undesirable, jealous and bitter over his easy access to casual sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:09 PM
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the men who fixate on it the most tend to be undesirables that are jealous and bitter over women’s easy access to casual sex. It’s mainly a “if I can’t have it, she shouldn’t either!” type of thing. What about women who do not want to be with men who sleep around with a lot of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:52 PM
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Listen, I saw that video of women doing nothing but dancing and the responses from some people were wild. There absolutely are people who use slut shaming and insults purely because the other person is female, and there are those who do not. So yes, slut shaming and insults alone would not make someone a misogynist, but there are misogynists who do that. Hence why I said I can see why those can be deemed as misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:27 AM
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so I told him about how I was punched in the face for rejecting someone and he immediately invalidated me and called me a liar. Probably because this is hard to believe. I am not saying it did not happen, simply that the majority of men would never do this and when we hear that someone experienced it, it's just hard to believe. About misogyny, how do you define the term? Edit: I continuously see posts that disreguard women's struggles, slut shame, infantilize, and insult women unprovoked. If thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:15 AM
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What does that look like? (maybe you already addressed it, I just skimmed through the post). You guys love complicating things with this 50/50 talk. Couples normally do what is natural to them and what they are good at in relationships. They rarely, if ever, take out a spreadsheet and calculate time on certain things they did in a relationship. For childrearing to be 50/50, all other aspects of their lives would have to be 50/50 as well. 50/50 hours worked, 50/50 money earned as a family. Realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:36 PM
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Like you said, they have OF links, so their purpose is to advertise their OF. Yes, they are not there to show women how they fit, because they are there to promote their OF. What evidence do you have that it is geared towards minors? Minors don't pay for OF. They are not trying to fool anyone. Maybe trying to fool YouTube so their videos do not get taken down as sexual in nature (I don't know, I'm not a Youtuber I have no idea how youtube laws work) ​ Lastly, just enjoy their free OF via their y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:03 AM
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What did I expect from askFeminist, of course the problem is "PATRIARCHY"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:43 AM
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No single trait will ever be enough individually. I get the sense that you want to say looks matter individually, but they do not for a relationship. Any sane man will not be with an abusive woman just because she is beautiful. Beauty can make up for a lack of other traits to an extent, but beauty alone is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:25 AM
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This situation is not exclusive to a single parent only. Even if the father is present, they could both be broke, they would still need state assistance and the child would starve.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:41 PM
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Sure, that side of the equation cannot be solved, but that does not mean we should ignore the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:57 PM
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But the woman does not have a child yet. She can still abort it knowing that the man will not be there financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:48 PM
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When this topic is brought up people like going on tangents and not addressing the topic. OP is saying, there are two people, a man and a woman. They just found out the woman is pregnant. Within 12 weeks, the man should have an option to opt out of being a father, thus opt out of paying child support. With this information, and within these 12 weeks, the woman should then decide whether she will continue with the pregnancy or not. i.e. Both parties have an option to opt in or out of being a pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:26 PM
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One allowed someone to shoot cum inside her. One went forth and shot cum inside her. How are they different?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:03 PM
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I'm asking about the act of getting pregnant and getting someone pregnant, not pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:51 PM
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Getting pregnant and getting someone else pregnant are two different actions. How are they different?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:36 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:22 PM
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Red-pill - Podcasts made red-pill look like a misogynistic group because they brought on onlyfans girls to speak on behalf of all women. They then go on to make fun of these women, disguised it as "exposing female nature". The problem is not the views these women have, but the conclusion reached by the podcasters. The views are an issue don't get me wrong, and most women do hold similar views, but on differing degrees and does not depict ALL women. Why the term misogynist? Simple, making fun of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:13 PM
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It is amazing how people can use Google and ChatGPT for all sort of things except learning the definitions of words they use.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:40 PM
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We live we learn brother, we live we learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:37 PM
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What does this have to do with hypergamy? Just because the man is making $60k/year does not mean the woman in question did not apply the rules of hypergamy. Hypergamy simply means marrying or being in a relationship with a person of higher social class than yourself (i.e. dating up). So with your example, if the woman is a bar tender or waitress and marries a chef, she applied the rules of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:50 PM
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You have not proven that looking good is more beneficial to men than women. What you have done though is tell us that looking bad is more disadvantageous to men than it is for women, and that looking good in general (both men and women) results in better treatment. No where have you said how men benefit more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:36 PM
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who does things like waits to see how they feel Careful with this advice, to another woman, this is rape or sexual assault. And a man never knows which woman he is dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:58 AM
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female newborns have higher level of empathy than male newborns Interested in knowing more about this, any links?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:56 AM
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You cannot discuss dressing provocatively without discussing sex workers. Sex workers used to or some still are, wearing revealing clothing and waiting at the corner for customers. So, a woman who dresses provocatively is perceived as someone who might be into sex in a casual manner or as part of her work. It's like that Dave Chappelle joke, "you are not a whore, but you are wearing a whore's uniform" This ofcourse does not mean every woman who dresses that way is promiscuous, but how you are pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:19 AM
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It doesn't work like that. You cannot use the comments in this post as the justification of this post, when the premise of this post is based on topics previously talked about in this subreddit. Can you link to other posts you are referring to when you said: I see a lot of proposals on this sub for socially/government-enforced nuclear families forcing people to breed and even taking women's jobs away to make them sit at home and breed all day (despite 74% of healthcare workers being women) I ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:39 PM
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Ahh, I remember this. OP is the person who wrote that post about how men are lonely because they are murderers and rapists and commit other crimes. unfortunately, she deleted the post. Men complain about loneliness epidemic, but they caused it upon themselves. : PurplePillDebate (reddit.com) At least this time there was some attempt to try sound neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:23 AM
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https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/more-women-than-men-turned-on-by-aggressive-porn-study/ It's crazy how you believe that women who like aggressive porn are mentally sick somehow, but for men that is just because men bad. Regarding pornhub, if what you say is true that these women look at what their boyfriends are looking at then leave, then why would categories like threesum and gangbang be consistently be viewed more by women than men year on year if you look at the pornhub insights? Fifty shades …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:23 AM
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Okay but you are not really answering my question. I do not care about casual sex or how they feel about you. I am specifically asking about how you feel about them. You said I'm attracted to a couple ugly, cocky athletes I know casually, but our personalities are not compatible, I'm asking what makes them attractive to you if they have a personality you do not like and they are physically not attractive to you? Are they sexually attractive because you guys flirt with each other? Would you find …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:49 PM
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I don't get this. If someone does not have a personality you like or that clashes with yours plus are physically not attractive to you, then how are you attracted to them? What kind of attraction are you actually talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:38 PM
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You do know that women are the ones who watch violent porn more right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:32 AM
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Attractiveness, yes. Beauty, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:17 AM
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look at how in pre-industrial times, chubby men and women were considered attractive because being chubby meant you were of higher socioeconomic standing. So these people were not physically attractive, but were desired because their body suggested that they come from wealth? This to me does not seem to be a beauty standard if attraction is not based on you but rather in what you represent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:53 AM
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While I don't agree with the OP about women not needing to worry about being murdered, yeah, men size each other up all the time. I do it all the time when I encounter other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:33 AM
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Because that is irrelevant in the definition of "pick me". Question, if a man (say 36 years old) enjoys staying at home watching anime and wears clothing with anime characters everywhere he goes, wears pokemon underwear and makes enough money to support himself only. This man struggles to find a date, or rather the woman he wants does not want him. So, he decides to go out more, decides to improve his clothing style, changes careers and get a better paying job so he has enough money to support h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:21 AM
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All heterosexuals that are interested in dating are trying to appeal to the opposite sex is what I am saying, thus they will make decisions that appeal to the opposite sex. This does not make one a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:59 AM
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By that definition I guess every heterosexual is a pick me. I thought being a pick me is basically saying "I am not like the other men/women", essentially putting them down to make yourself look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:57 AM
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Are you talking about men complaining about issues they face IN a relationship, or men complaining about NOT being in a relationship? These are two separate complaints and if you read the OP, they are talking about men IN relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:30 PM
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This kind of makes sense. So basically, since men do not complain about women it seems as if women are never the cause of any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:53 PM
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OP let me ask you a question. There are twins, not ugly, just average. One is broke and barely getting by. The other twin is living it up going to fancy places every weekend and drives a luxurious car. If a woman encounters both these twins, which one do you think she is most likely to sleep with, even if it is for a ONS? Do you think the woman will want to brag about having sex with a broke man, or do you think she would want to brag about having sex with a man with resources? The question you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:27 AM
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OP you are not really listening to what the men in this thread are saying. They are not agreeing with you completely. They are saying, a man with many options is high value. They are not saying a cheating man is high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:56 PM
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I count only 5 men who have responded to this post at the time of writing, but you are already generalizing about the responses. How about we wait and see what men say, and then make this comment if it holds true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:40 PM
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Dude, I don't know what you are on about. I don't need to have sex with a gay man to know I do not want a relationship or sex with a man. Question: What makes someone gay? Enjoying a specific act or being attracted to and wanting a romantic relationship with someone of the same gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:19 PM
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Sure, emotion is not the opposite of logic, but, if you study decision making you will see often that logical decision making is normally pinned against emotional decision making. Emotions often cloud logic, even though they are not opposites. This is what men mean by illogical, it's not that the women are literally illogical, it's the fact that some/most of their decisions are clouded by emotions. (This goes without saying, but not all men, not all women)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:04 AM
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But from the son's POV it is illogical to hire someone when he is there and available to do the job. Edit: The reason why some men use the "illogical" argument is because for the men, there is normally a clear and easy solution that does not take into account emotions. Women normally take emotions into most of the decisions they make. This is why they say men use logic and women use emotion. Women lean heavily on the emotional side of the decision making while men take little emotions. These of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:44 PM
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I remember a story a friend told me about a situation he was in. They had a gardener at home who would come every week to do some gardening. He calculated the yearly cost they were paying the gardener and compared the cost to the cost of the equipment to do the gardening. He figured out after 1 year of paying the gardener, they could have used that money to buy gardening tools. So instead of paying the gardener, the son decided they should buy the tools. They bought them. So no more need for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:52 PM
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If you go ahead with it, make sure there are clearly defined rules that must be followed. If any of them are broken, that is basically cheating. Question, how long will you tolerate this? Do you think that when you get tired of it he will just drop it just like that and go back to having sex with one woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:12 PM
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Sure. But there are women who withhold sex. Not all, but they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:27 PM
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You are talking about a situation where you are already in the mood, I am saying that other women require actions from a man in order to be in the mood. If she is intentionally denying those advances, she is intentionally not allowing herself to be in the mood. The reasons why she is denying them can be plentiful, whether from not wanting to have sex that day, or intentionally punishing him for something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:00 PM
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How can she feel them if she is denying them? There's already one woman in the comments who told you that she intentionally deprived herself of sex since there was conflict in the relationship, so I will not discuss further, unless you have something else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:39 PM
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Wrong, if she is "withholding sex", she is denying your advances to get her in the mood. We all know that most of the time a man has to get the woman in the mood, thus if she is withholding, she is denying your advances. ​ For “withhold” to make sense here it would have to suggest that she’s denying herself sex she wants to spite him. Yeah, she actually would do this. Women are capable of anything and everything humanly possible, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:29 PM
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I'm going off of the assumption that because we live in a "blue pill society" most people are using some form of blue pill tactics. Being nice, genuine, stable, good hygiene, etc. I guess the problem people have with the blue pill is this assumption that people struggling with dating is because they are not nice enough or do not shower enough. If showering and having basic hygiene makes someone blue pill, I guess the majority of people are blue pill. People go to red pill because they want to un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:54 PM
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But you do not know what they actually had to do to get those relationships. Plus, this stat includes people who did not have to be "nice" in order to get a relationship. It includes people who had to use red pill tactics to get a relationship. It includes people who were in abusive relationships. It includes people who "did not take care of themselves" to get a relationship. So again, how does it prove that the blue pill is correct? If the blue pill says "if you lower your expectations low enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:18 PM
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As long as you do the bare minimum, there is someone out there for you. How do you know that the people in your data did "the bare minimum"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:53 PM
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Looking at pew research polls, around three percent of men older than 45 have never been in a relationship. How does this prove that the blue pill is right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:20 PM
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Not sure if I fully grasp the term, but based on the following " The experience of limerence is different from love or lust in that it is based on the uncertainty that the person you desire, called the “limerent object” in the literature, also desires you. " I guess each time I have had feelings for someone without knowing if they feel the same means I have experienced it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:42 AM
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I don't get what this has to do with controlling emotions. I am saying, if I like someone, time will not make me dislike them. Only if they change is what will make me dislike them. ​ And isn't, you know, not being into you usually a dealbreaker? Someone not liking me will not make me dislike them back. I still like them, however, I will not pursue anything further as they don't feel the same way. And the only way for me to know that they do not want me would be to express my feelings for them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:32 AM
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Standards refer to more than looks though. I don't know much about your own mental issues, but I am sure they did not just come out of thin air. They are there due to what is going on around you. ​ they won’t be alone though, the majority of people find their person. If the people "you" find attractive all have high standards that you do not meet, you will be alone, unless you decide to date people you do not find attractive. Therefore, standards DO matter. I am not villainizing people who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:26 AM
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The desire would vanish. That's kind of how crushes and feelings work generally. Maybe men and women process feelings differently. As a guy, the only way feelings for a woman would vanish is if that woman does something that makes her unattractive or is a deal breaker. No amount of time will magically make those feelings go away if nothing changes about the person I am attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:12 AM
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This started out as a neutral discussion and then became a "hey men, why are you mad at women" at the end. Anyways, 1 person having high standards, no problem. 10 people having high standards, no problem. The majority of the people you are attracted to having high standards becomes your problem as you will be alone along with them. If your post history is true regarding your life, do you not think the standards contribute to how you feel? Meaning they do matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:33 AM
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Do you really find casual sex appealing? Casual sex as in sex with someone repeatedly without commitment, yes. Casual sex as in always finding someone new to have sex with, no. Not worth the time. ​ is fucking a stranger really that much more satisfying that jerking off? Yes (consensually of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:01 AM
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I think that a lot of women ENJOY being able to rely on a man for emotional comfort, feelings of safety, etc. In order for you to be able to rely on someone, you should be able to follow them or yield to their authority, otherwise how are you relying on them if you won't listen to them. Most of what the comment said was mostly babble about how amazing she is I will give you that, but I probably glanced over the comment after reading the first few sentences. Don't remember exactly, this was 15 da…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:48 PM
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Submission is literally conforming and yielding to authority Isn't this what the comment was saying when they said the following: " Men who are genuinely masculine in a safe and healthy way tend to generate submission from their wife or girlfriend organically and without struggle. " Meaning, a woman will willingly submit to such a man, i.e. she will willingly conform and yield to his authority? This is what I got from the comment made.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:19 PM
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This comment would have been much more useful had you added the correct definition of submissive, instead of just dismissing the above definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:52 PM
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But this is what I said, that it depends on the situation. At the end of the day, men do not ridicule another man who is facing hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:24 PM
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Dude, I don't know what else to tell you. Them sharing their story is a way of them showing that they understand what he is going through because they have been there or have been through worse. Seeing them laugh gives you comfort that this pain will go away and you will survive the heartbreak. If you want to cry to your friends and have them hug you and console you, go for it. When I go to friends for help, I am not looking for comfort but looking for solutions and for them to make me feel bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:27 PM
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Again, depends on the situation itself. But normally the ridicule is in the form of one-upping one another. Dude 1 - My girl cheated on me with some random guy Dude 2 - That's nothing, my girl cheated on me with my friend for 2 months straight. Dude 3 - You guys are newbies, my girl cheated with my best friend while we were all at the same party. She then got upset with me because I was talking with some girl at the party. She then broke up with me over this. From that day I had been depressed f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:23 PM
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80% of men will ridicule and insult them Not sure where you got this stat from. But from my experience, men ridicule the situation not the man. They ridicule the situation so that the man suffering will see that the issue is not that big of a deal. Also it depends on the situation, most of the time when I have talked to men I get help not ridicule. The help I have gotten was mostly through ridicule of the situation, again depends on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:20 PM
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But you are still not making sense. If I say "all women like chocolate" (whether true or not), what am I trying to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:59 AM
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What are you talking about? where is that quote from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:08 PM
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" A political movement is a collective attempt by a group of people to change government policy or social values. " According to wikipedia. Here's my question, - what are red pillers trying to change? - From what I can tell, red pill attracts guys who are struggling to attract women and are seeking answers as to why they are struggling. So what are they trying to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:58 PM
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But how should the red pill "solve" that women say they want tall men? What problems do you think the red pill should be solving?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:22 PM
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Well yeah, they are unhappy that women only want 6-foot-tall dudes. How do you believe they should, as a group, solve this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:47 PM
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Many are very individualistic and don't try to collectively enact political change to address their perceived grievances. Red pill is not a political movement. (from what I believe) Red pill is telling guys "hey, men and women are different. Women say this, but they are actually attracted to this. If you want to be attractive to women, do this" Red pillers, correct me if I a wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:39 PM
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When most people speak of settling they refer to preferences because anytime someone mentions changing your standards in order to find the person you love, people consider that as settling. Based on the number of divorces out there, I would assume the majority of people settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:43 PM
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So it's based on your personal subjective feelings and preferences. It's based on your subjective feelings, not some measurable objective standards. Is your definition of settling based on feelings or based on preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:24 PM
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Quite often rapist are straight yet they rape other men. Rapists are straights yet rape other men, straight meaning attracted to opposite gender, yet they rape other men, meaning if the rapist is straight and "yet" rapes another man, this means the rapist is a man. Are you saying that rapists are men only?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:10 AM
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Can't think of any examples. But in short, the ideal partner is the one who has my back. Just have my back. It is difficult to move forward while you are wondering what your woman is doing behind your back. If you look at most men's complaint, if you really drill down to the reason why that man is complaining is probably because he does not think his woman has his back. Men not opening up emotionally, he thinks the woman will use this information against him someday, or she might leave her, i.e.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:47 PM
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People say all sort of things. Honestly, I do not believe that sex robots would solve abuse that women face. People act as if men just want to abuse someone who looks like a woman, but the reality is those abusive men are abusive for multiple reasons, not simply that the other party is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:33 PM
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Let me get this right, women are against sex robots because they care about sex robot rights? Here's the thing. If female sex robots are created, they would be created so that people can have sex with them, not so that people can abuse them. Would other people misuse them, sure, like every other thing that is being used for other reasons besides it's intended purpose. The primary purpose of these robots would be sex with an adult female, which is legal. Child sex robots would not be created beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:03 PM
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Finally, someone who understands what submission is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:36 PM
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good day/good night
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:22 AM
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Why not go for them and try your luck with them? Because I like this one who goes clubbing even though I do not like her going clubbing. This is not rocket science. isn’t the activities someone does a part of who they are? I do not need to like everything someone does in order to like them. If I hate how she chews food it does not mean I do not like her. if you don’t like the stuff someone does or their hobbies, is that not a potential sign of incompatibility? Maybe, but I can still ask her to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:40 AM
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why ask her to stop? Because I like her but don't like the activity she partake in. if he wants to keep clubbing, again, don’t date a woman who dislikes clubbing, it’s literally that simple Normally in this situation, both met at a club or were clubbing together, then the woman decides to stop. If the man does not also stop, he gets labeled as childish and refuses to grow up. Back to my question, who is forcing women to change? They can accept or reject the request. That does not mean men should…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 01:10 PM
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changes that happen in healthy relationships are agreed upon between both parties. But who said the woman is being forced to do those changes? The expectations that you mentioned are from the man's side yes, but the woman in this equation can either accept or reject those expectations. So how is it wrong for a man to have these expectations? My man, stop trying to speak for women, there are a lot of things that women want that are socially seen as bad or wrong. When a man just loves the woman fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:56 AM
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The answer is the one you claim does not make sense. By the way, no I do not think that a man should be going out there sleeping with every woman he can. So, back to your question. People say it is okay for a man to have a higher body count because, it means the man has some sort of value that women like. Hence why he has a high body count. Woman value him somehow and are willing to sleep with him. On the other hand, a woman having a high body count does not really say she has value, since all s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:15 PM
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A woman ruined my life we assume because I was attractive as the less attractive girls she helped. I nearly killed myself over this, the bullying, the fact I felt like I needed a bestie I'd never have. Damn OP. You know, now that I think of it, I cannot recall reading an article about a woman who committed suicide because of a man, but I have seen a few where the cited reason for suicide involves bullying by other women. What I also find interesting is that when a woman presents an issue about o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:59 PM
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Here's the gist of it. Women get fucked, while the man does the fucking. That's it. Look at the gay community, people sometimes jokingly ask "so who is the one who does the fucking?" Same thing with lesbians, people sometimes jokingly ask "so who wears the strap-on?" This is why fathers do not like the idea of their daughters having a boyfriend. But once a woman reaches a certain age, fathers care less about these things because they want her to have a family of her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:15 AM
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Well yeah great sex is better than mediocre sex. But, men are willing to have mediocre sex compared to no sex. For women, it seems like no sex is better than mediocre sex. So quality matters more to women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:40 PM
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Alright, what is your definition of objectifying women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:07 PM
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Constantly wanting sex with new women when most* women don’t want sex with random men makes women feel like men don’t actually care about them as people only as sex objects Here's the thing though, I do not think that men (the average man) is constantly wanting sex with different women since there are men who are not having sex at all. Men want constant sex, not necessarily with a new woman each time. (yes there are men who want new women constantly, but that is not the majority).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:06 PM
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One can argue that women care more as for them it has to be special and worth it. It has more weight thus they care about it. Think of a person applying for a job, if person A is applying for every job available, they are desperate for the job. While person B only applies for specific jobs because they believe other jobs are not worth it. Clearly, they both care, maybe equally, but just about different things. Meaning, women are not desperate but still care since they are selective. When it come…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:58 PM
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Why do you think men care "more"? To me it seems like both care but about the different aspects of it, quantity vs quality, not necessarily more vs less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:25 PM
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Sure, but why are men talked about negatively for caring about sex, when from a woman's side people see it as reasonable that she wants someone with some experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:23 PM
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Both care about sex, but why are men painted in a negative light mostly online for caring about sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:22 PM
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Cerci is actually a great example as u/WilliamWyattD said. She is powerful in a realistic way. She is not trying to be a man or trying to prove that she can also get in battle and beat men. She knows her strengths as a woman and uses them against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:36 AM
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Clearly you did not take in what the woman in the video was saying. She did not say no man wants her, she said the men that she wants do not want the type of woman she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:20 AM
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I'm not sure if I get the question. Do you mean like, there should be an app for mentors or men advertising that they are mentors and looking for mentees? Personally, I have mentored a few people based on working closely with them, but I never proclaimed to be a mentor. Actually I am lying there a bit, I once did sign up for a mentorship program back in university in order to be mentor, however, I was given women mentees. Either way, as someone looking for a mentor, you should identify the man y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:30 PM
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What I find interesting about this video is that most people are with the matchmakers side saying that the matchmaker is correct. But, how she (the woman in the video) interprets the comments is "they are dragging me", this was one of her response. Now imagine being in a relationship with someone who thinks that when a person is siding with someone other than you is the same as being "dragged". Either way, I have grown to hate these Leader discussions because people seem to take it to extremes l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:43 AM
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If you can show me a group of unattractive single women being happy, I will accept that women are happier single than men. What I am trying to say is, it's easier to be happy with a situation you chose, unlike a situation you were sort of forced into. There's also the fact that men who choose singlehood are not as loud as the women who choose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:30 PM
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Lol, yes, on your way to work. Obviously bosses will help their employees when such help is for the benefit of the company. If you were on your way to see your friend would your boss have helped you? But assuming your boss is this most lovely person who helps everyone, how many employees is your boss responsible for and would your boss be available to help everyone when in need? What about their family, would your boss abandon their family to come help you? I am not talking about helping someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:19 PM
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For responsible people, decisions are not mere privileges, but a burden. Say it louder Just to add to the question asked " why should your wife “obey” you rather than both of you having a mutually respectful relationship? What exactly makes you better qualified and give her more incentive than a boss? " the boss is only responsible for said woman during business hours, her husband is responsible for her 24/7. By responsible I mean things like, after hours you cannot call your boss when you are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:27 AM
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I'm not sure where you keep seeing men say short dudes are in the same category as fat girls. What I see is men saying these two are not comparable due to one being manageable while the other is genetic. But side question to you, do you find all big women attractive or only those whose fat is in the right places and well distributed across the body?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:41 PM
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Okay this is silly, I thought we were having an honest conversation. Quote where I said "I keep track of my ex's dating habits"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:03 PM
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Expand, how would he know what? The principle part or the fact that her sexual patterns differ for different men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:51 AM
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Depends on the woman the man is going after. If it is a woman he has known for a while, he would know. If it is someone new he doesn't know, then he won't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:37 AM
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No magic number, just your principles. If it is your principle to wait, then do so. If it is your principle to have sex ASAP, then do so. What guys have an issue with is when you have different principles for different men. i.e. imagine you know a guy, he takes his girlfriend to fancy restaurants, they break up. You date him, suddenly he takes you to cheap fast food takeouts. You break up. You find out that he takes his new girlfriend to fancy restaurants. Would you not find this as a personal t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:02 AM
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While it's true that some men do not recognise female loneliness "because a woman can always find someone who wants to sleep with her" as they claim, what I have seen is that women also act as if female loneliness does not exist. You can see this from responses they give when male loneliness is discussed. They normally say things like,"well if you guys were better at friendships like women you would not be lonely." "If you guys were more invested in the relationships with your family as women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:44 PM
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They are here. They sometimes get called names by other women or they act like number 2 in your list depending on the topic being discussed. If the topic being discussed is decent and has a decent argument along with it, you will find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 06:13 PM
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The number of women who do not feel the need to put on make-up each day before they leave the house is definitely high. But, the number of women who put no make-up on even on special occasions or night outs is surely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:54 PM
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No However, given that the OP used celebrities, I am sure most of them had work done for their careers not because they were looking for love, i.e. looking to be pursued. Counter question, if a man looks at a woman who clearly has fake lips, breasts and ass, do you think he looks at her and says "there's the mother of my future kids" or does he think "I want to have sex with that woman"? I'd say the latter, hence why I asked which men is OP referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:51 PM
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Which men? 1) Depending on where one lives, I do not think that the average woman has had a lot of cosmetic procedures done. 2) The vast majority of women wear make-up one way or the other, so trying to find a woman with zero make up is almost impossible. Are men then supposed to be single or overlook issues such as make up? 3) A woman having cosmetic work done those not make her unattractive by default. ​ These women wouldn’t have got plastic surgery if plastic surgery was actually unattractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:38 AM
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I was not moving the goal post, we were discussing competition. Where does this insecurity come from? The insecurity that men do not react positively to a more successful partner? As success and ambition are qualities most women take into effect when selecting a mate, This was from your OP, men know that women take these into consideration when selecting a mate, so would it not make sense that some men would be insecure when they underperform? Men say they like women who are in shape, if a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:57 PM
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This just seems like word play to me. But I can explain that as well. Gaming is a male hobby right. Almost anyone who encounters a male gamer expects that man to be good at it. Women are not known to be gamers and people expect them to perform poorly. Losing is hurtful, losing to someone everyone expected you to beat is even more hurtful. When a man loses to a woman, he did not just lose, but he lost to a WOMAN, someone everyone expected him to beat. So yeah, they might react more negatively to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:42 PM
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successful male gamers Yes, because they are successful and probably beating those women. Again, men react negatively to people beating them at whatever they are trying to succeed in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:17 PM
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I made a comment to another one of your responses, so I just want to expand here. Male gamers react negatively to competition. The only difference here is that the competition happens to be a female. Don't get me wrong, I am sure there are certain men who would react negatively purely because she is female, but mostly, I think male gamers react negatively to competition. Look at any other sports, it's males vs males, there are no case studies since its all males. However, if the competition was …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:15 PM
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News flash, gamers react negatively to another person who beats them in a game. Seriously, what do you expect them to do, celebrate that another person is beating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:07 PM
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From being sure that your wife/girlfriend hasn't cheated on you, it logically followes that you are sure the child is yours But there is no ACTUAL proof. How would I be "sure" that they haven't cheated? I would have to trust them right? Just because I trust someone, it does not mean they will not lie. Question, how many women have been victims of physical assault from their boyfriend/husband even though they trusted them? Trust alone does not mean that the person you trust will not do certain th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:37 PM
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Do it with your own money and don’t cower behind the government. Again with the money, even though you argued against me when I said your issue is money. ( No, it’s personal responsibility. Please actually read what I'm writing instead of skimming.) I will end my argument here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:10 PM
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Ok, what is wrong with that? I do not want to accuse her of cheating, but I still want assurance that the child is mine. How do we achieve both?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:04 PM
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What personal responsibility? If you want to ruin the relationship with your baby mama and cause unnecessary drama, YOU DO IT. Do it with your own money and don’t cower behind the government. This is what you wrote. Again, asking for a test is about assurance that the child is his, so that he will not have to pay child support for a child that is not his.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:58 PM
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Your main issue is MONEY. That's why you keep talking about the man using his own money and not governments money. I am saying, it's not about the money, it's about the assurance that yes this child is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:39 PM
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No I'm not proving OPs point. Asking for a paternity test is about assurance, the same assurance that women have by virtue of the baby growing inside their body. It doesn't matter how much I trust someone, they can still lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:37 PM
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I don't think you understand why men want mandatory paternity tests. It's not because of money, but rather to ensure that women do not feel personally attacked by the paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 01:17 PM
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If you ask me, the tradwife movement seems like a retaliation movement to the feminist movement. A loud minority of feminists are against stay-at-home wives and are against children entirely. They go as far as to shame women who want to be wives and make their husbands happy. So, it seems like the tradwives feel attacked by feminism and are retaliating. Men on the otherhand, as much as there are people trying to deconstruct masculinity, many men are not for it, only the few men who do not fit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:19 AM
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Alright. Good for those boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:58 PM
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Ok, seems like some of you ladies consider any activity you do within a relationship as romance. Wearing your hair the way your man likes is romance? No. Wearing your hair the way your man likes even though you hate it, or during special days, sure it can be romantic. Disclaimer: NOT ALL WOMEN Normally, the initiation of the date involves a man having to be romantic. The whole idea of a man approaching a woman is a man doing a romantic gesture. Why? Look at how a lot of women do not want to ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:43 PM
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Men are providers of romance and women are consumers of romance. Women consume romance, whether it's through experiencing romance herself from her partner, or watching people close to her enjoy romance, or watching romantic movies or reading romantic novels. Women consume romance. (obviously some of these examples also include women providing romance to women i.e. through novels and other media, but even in these novels written by women, a man in the story is providing the romance to the fiction…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 07:04 AM
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We're lucky that 3/4ths of this sub is too pussified to ever harass us outside of the net Wow. So, let me get this straight, men who do not harass women are "pussified" men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 06:06 AM
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Maybe your problem was using stoicism to get women? Trust me, you do not need high and over the top energy to create sexual tension. ​ but actually when my energy was “in front of my face” as if it was dragging me around. I’d make jokes, some of them risky but often get bigger laughs. Reading your post, one might think that, according to you, someone who is stoic does not make jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:05 PM
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You know how men do not want to be settled for by the single moms, it's a similar concept. Desperate people come off as people who will choose anyone so long as the other person agrees. So, the desperate person is not choosing you because they want you, but rather they just want another person next to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 04:20 PM
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90% ? You sure about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:49 AM
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Define fat. Maybe include links to pictures of women you consider fat. Also, seems like you are assuming that men find every skinny girl hot and every "fat" girl unattractive, which is false. Men have a range of body types they are attracted to. Thus "fat" needs to be described if you want a more precise answer. The fat is also dependent on where it is. If it is mostly in the mid area like stomach, then there's high chance that woman will be unattractive. On the other hand, a fat woman with well…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 12:29 PM
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I hear you. If I have never given a man a reason to question my fidelity This seems to be a recurring response. But my counter is, while you might not have given him any doubt, he might see signs that, to him, seem like you are or were cheating. Maybe he sees behaviour he saw from past relationships that occurred because the woman was cheating, while in your case, those behaviours are just normal behaviours. Telling me earlier in the relationship that he has trouble trusting anyone and would lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:59 PM
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Just do one behind her back. Wouldn't this add more fuel to the fire should she ever find out you went ahead and did it? But the question though is not really about pregnancy, but why one accusation is different to another when you are being accused of a similar act.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:31 PM
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Ok I get that. If a man finds himself in a situation where he is questioning the paternity of his child, what would you rather him do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:28 PM
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Okay, seems like you are assuming things here. 1, that I know nothing about pregnancy, 2, that the woman who got pregnant would have done so willingly. Accidental pregnancies happen. And these are the ones that are most likely to end up in a situation where a woman "decides" who would be the father. ​ I think some women exaggerate the ease of which they'd seek out a divorce, but I will say a fundamental part of their marriage will die and it can never be recovered. Agreed, no issue here, since t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:24 PM
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I do not think a man questioning the paternity of his child is thinking about all those other people, but I get what you are saying. Although, I might make a similar claim about the other infidelity though, albeit to a lesser extent. e.g. By accusing said wife of cheating with Ted, you are assuming she is willing to keep a secret about sleeping with someone else, continue lying by seeing Ted on multiple occasions, risk bringing STIs from Ted to the husband, trick the husband into being into a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:07 PM
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I completely understand feeling hurt by the accusation. I am not arguing against that at all. To me it seems crazy that some accusations of cheating are easily worked through while others seem to be relationship ending. It's an accusation of the same thing, which is cheating. So why the different reactions? I'll probably just be sad for a couple of days and get over it. And this right here is what confuses me about the women who say they would divorce. Because, while you would be angry and sad f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:58 PM
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I am not understanding you. Are you saying it is okay for a woman to end a relationship if the husband asks for a paternity test? My real question here is, how is it different that the man is accusing a woman of cheating by asking for a paternity test vs a man asking to go through his wife's phone because he thinks she is cheating? Both of these are accusations of cheating, yet some women claim that if he asked for a paternity, they would leave the relationship, sorry, MARRIAGE after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:43 PM
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But both of these are accusations of 1 thing "CHEATING". How is one worse than the other when you are being accused of doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:37 PM
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But the reason stated for wanting to end the relationship is that the man is accusing the wife of cheating, she feels betrayed. The reasons have nothing to do with the child's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:29 PM
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I was also wanted u/Hour-Diet-4247 to provide source because this is a very specific claim that he made " A young man’s testosterone level today is equal to that of a 67-year-old man in 2000. " Back to this article though, I find it interesting that, amongst many things that the article states as the cause of the decline in testosterone, some of these things that contribute to the decrease in testosterone are things that women want in men. According to the study: " Meanwhile, certain forms of cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:10 PM
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That's fair. I would have had an issue if you were with someone who has not figured himself out yet and pressuring him to do so. Mostly for men self-improvement comes when they see a need for it (kind of like what I said about tidying up lol). If someone tells us to do XYZ, it will likely not get done on time. But if someone shows us that something needs to be done, it will get done. I do not claim to speak for every man though, people are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:59 PM
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No problem with the long answer, I appreciate that you actually took the time to write all that. It's good that you know what you want and are doing what you must to achieve it. Personally I would not call someone who currently has no aspirations as not mature. Some people take longer to find what they actually want to do with their lives. But that does not give them an excuse to do nothing. They still need to be doing something. You say the guys your age are doing nothing, are they not in schoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:14 PM
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Alright, understandable. This is in line with what I've seen and heard from other women. I personally feel much more mature compared to guys my age In what sense do you feel more mature than them and do you think this is about maturity or perhaps just different priorities that you might have compared to them? I am also generally in love with an idea of being the younger partner. What is it about this dynamic that you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:29 PM
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No no! See, it's the patriarchy. You've been conditioned to want to date older men and you are being manipulated. Your brain has not fully developed yet. Haha, on a serious note, why is your ideal partner 28 instead of say 20-23? If you find yourself single at 28, would your ideal partner be 36 or would it be more around your age?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:15 PM
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True, men are ugly because they do not wash their hands. Let's wash our hands gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:03 PM
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Honestly learning about periods when you’re a younger dude would be very beneficial to your dating life and your friendship with other women. In what way? No woman has ever told me that they cannot carry on a relationship with me due to my disinterest in period conversations. Personally, what would you want to gain by discussing your period with a man, let's say your male friend? We have never experienced it so whatever we would say would be parroting things we have heard from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:28 AM
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Yeah that is what the commenter is saying, that women "go" for the handsome guy while they "SAY" they go for personality. Thus, they lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:39 AM
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One thing I've learned from being in this sub is that, if you want people to debate a point, talk about that point only and do not add other noise around it that drowns out the main point, especially if that noise is nonsense and easily attacked. Take note u/Arongelion, I was on board with the title then got disinterested in the post once I read further. Instead of saying men are messy, you could have just said "often men clean when they see a need for cleaning, while most women often clean out …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 08:28 AM
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unfamiliar he was with things like periods Why would he though? It's not like sisters would discuss periods with their brothers or female friends would discuss periods with their male friends. That's like saying to any man, "you have a mother, why don't you know a lot about periods?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:05 PM
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I don't think the redpill tells men to ignore women. Sounds like something MGTOW would say. I also don't think 30-year-olds are trying to date "most college aged women", they surely are trying to date the women that they see are dating older men. So, where is the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:47 PM
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You keep talking about lying, I am talking about being friends with someone, nothing about lying. Are there people who lie, sure. Others are friends yes and also have ulterior motives. They are still friends though but want sex in addition. If you specifically want to talk about liers, then I will concede my argument as I am not advocating for lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:42 AM
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I am not against women dating male friends. My issue is with the wording of predator. There are people who actively advocate that if you want something in life, befriend the people who have that thing. You want success in your field, befriend people in your field. No one says this is predatory just because someone is befriending another person because they will benefit somehow. Even in your suggestion, you want women to befriend men if they want a romantic relationship. i.e. there is an ulterior…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:14 AM
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So what makes someone a predator is if they want sex. What if I befriend a rich guy because I might need some help financially at some point? What if I befriend someone with a yacht because I know they will invite me along sometimes? What if I befriend someone who owns a company because they might hire me if I need a job? People befriend others for multiple reasons, but somehow, if a guy befriends a woman because he wants sex he is now a predator and does not see the other person as a person. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:46 AM
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This is interesting, you are advising women to date male friends, but at the same time you call men who do that as predators. " men can be predatory, especially pretending to befriend you in a long con in order to sleep with you. "
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:32 AM
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Well it seams like most men still prefer to try their luck by approaching woman Well yeah, because they found that woman attractive and want to have sex with her. That man is only looking for sex from that woman. Have you not heard women complain that they once or on multiple occasions slept with a man and after she slept with him he became uninterested in her? Have you not heard women complain about how they felt used for sex only?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:14 AM
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What you are saying make sense if the man is looking for a relationship. If the man is only looking for sex, there's no need for any compatibility or shared interests. Men can separate sex from intimacy, look at prostitution. Do you think prostitution exists because men want women whom he can laugh with and match with personality wise?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:44 AM
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Ahh yes, another case of "women behaviour is the normal and healthy behaviour and male behaviour is broken behaviour that needs fixing". Seriously, men and women are different. If you do not understand this there's nothing that you will get from the post you made. Just look at the replies, you will find mostly women agreeing with you, know why? Because women and men are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:06 AM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 07:34 AM
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I can be assaulted and feel unsafe. I'm not sure what you're trying to say. What I am trying to say is, in the above scenario, a physical act that anyone can see is unwanted is not the same as someone making you "feel" unsafe. Someone can make you feel unsafe without getting physical. Heck, there are some men who make women feel unsafe just by being ugly. ​ I don't know. Make sure someone isn't kidnapped? Call the police? "Hello, is this the police? I would like to report some men catcalling a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:55 AM
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In the above examples you gave, your vagina being grabbed is physical sexual assault, has nothing to do with feelings. The dark street issue, what would you expect the guy in question to do? Personally, the only reasonable option would be to walk with the woman because the guy is also feeling unsafe in that scenario if he is alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:31 PM
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I have not been in a situation where I saw a woman or child in a position where they need saving from a predator. Any other time a man hit on me or made me feel unsafe Genuine question, why would a random man intervene when he sees another man shoots his shot? (assuming the man is only hitting on you and doing nothing else that seems to be an issue) And how would he know you feel unsafe?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:16 PM
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If you mean emotionally vulnerable as in showing fear when she's scared, showing sadness when sad, crying when there's something to cry about, no it would not be a deal breaker. Why? Because this would show me that she knows how to handle her emotions and demonstrates that there are less chances that she would ever act out of emotions and the actions she takes would be probably thought-out actions, i.e. she controls her emotions instead of her emotions controlling her. If you mean emotionally vu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:50 AM
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They think so because they see women make fun of guys with no history and date men who are in relationships. The women reward the guys who sleep around and punish the men who do not. So if male virginity or male low number is to be desired, it would have to start with women as a whole to value such from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:14 AM
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LMAO, LOLs, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Alright, you got me. Lol. This is pure stand-up. Thought about a career in comedy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:56 AM
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Why do people like using 50/50? No, the average couple splits the bills, but they do not necessarily go 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:27 PM
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Yeah, upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 06:24 PM
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Alright. The thing about red pillers is that it connects people with similar thought patterns but with different goals. Depending on the red pillers you listen to, sure you might be a red flag. The self harm scars and other mental issues you have are things most people would be weary of, not just red pill people. Your political stance (depending on the severity of how left you are leaning) does not make you undatable by red pillers. Red pill has nothing to do with politics. You being messy has n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:18 PM
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And you possibly seem like a damsel in distress, albeit from yourself. Sorry you are going through all that and it's good that you are aware of those things and actively seeking help. Sure the things you mentioned are not things men look for, but I do not see how they disqualify you from the red pill standards. What are red pill standards from your perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:40 PM
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So, you are younger than him, possibly shorter than him, you dress up for him (which is feminine), you wash his clothes, you put in the work in the relationship, you have an active sex life. How are you not an ideal woman by red pill standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:26 PM
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Wait, when did circumcision become a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:17 PM
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As a man I would laugh each time I see that ad. It would not be effective. Words of affirmation mean nothing to men (or at least to me if other men seem to want them) if they are not accompanied by results. So while some men would probably like to hear them, they would soon realise they mean nothing if nothing changes in their lives. For example, if you tell me I am good at doing something, yet each time I want to do that thing you refuse and get someone else to do it, your words would become me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:15 AM
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Shouldn't your answer be "no" then, since the question is specifically asking if men should be expected to help women and you say that people should help each other regardless of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:11 PM
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I'm not going to dispute what you said, but will give alternate evidence to how people react to men vs women in public. These are social experiments performed and they show that a woman is more likely to receive help from strangers than a man. THE SOCIAL EXPERIMENT | The Rise Of Female Violence - YouTube Who gets the most help? The girl or the guy? [HIDDEN CAMERA] - YouTube How customers react to a woman vs. man crying in public | WWYD - YouTube The last video is really interesting given that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 08:06 PM
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I like "talking" to people older than me, but ESPECIALLY people 2-3 years older than me. I like feeling young. Is it not possible that the 20-year-old with the 30-year-old also feels the same way, but they just have a different age-gap range than yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:29 AM
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Hi Objective, you are welcome to block this person but why would you? This is a debate sub so be open to all kinds of responses and personal attacks (even though they are not allowed). Don't you want to know what other people really think? or perhaps you just want people to respond to you according to your approved ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:47 PM
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While I understand why such measures are in place, you have to ask yourself, if one form of segregation is good, what happens when another group of people decide to enforce segregation on another group due to some members of that group being more prone to committing actions that the former group is trying to run away from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:22 PM
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Let me chime in a bit, what the commenter has issue with is the women only spaces, not women. Regarding the gym, what he is saying basically is, imagine you and a guy friend rented a 2bed apartment together. However, this apartment has only 1 garage and you are told the garage will be your friends garage since he is a guy. You both pay the same price for the apartment yet he gets an extra room free that you are not allowed to use. [This doesn't matter whether you want the garage or not, but the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:56 PM
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Women do these things because they get benefits from doing them. They get made fun of and they still do it, because the benefits outweigh the public mockery. Men do not do it because the benefits do not outweigh the costs. If you want to lengthen your limbs go ahead, be prepared for the name calling though and hopefully the benefits will be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:23 PM
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Not entirely true. There will be lies. A lot of lies. But not about everything. Women know the truth, that's why they lie. Not entirely true. Depends on the stage of the relationship. If you are married with kids, chances are less she will just leave. If you are unmarried, then yes. The clock is ticking, waiting for you to provide again. If you fail, then it's a wrap. Not entirely true. You will be helped, but mostly because she will benefit from the helped version of yourself. It it's something…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:31 PM
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Have a look at this post on how men feel about desperate women. Q4M - an average looking girl is DESPERATE to date you. How do you feel about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:40 PM
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In that case he probably is not interested. Again, this has nothing to do with the fact that you put in effort. If I were attracted to a girl and she was not into me, it doesn't matter how much effort I put if she is not into me at all. This does not mean she rejected me because I put in effort, she was never interested in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:07 PM
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That's not it. According to the OP, the reason the woman gets rejected is due to her putting in effort. What I am saying is, putting in effort is not the reason she would get rejected. Other factors mattered in her getting rejected, not the fact that she put in effort. In simple terms, according to OP, if 2 girls are after 1 guy, one girl puts in extra effort and another does not, all else equal, the girl who put in less effort would win. This is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 06:03 PM
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The man would pick the more attractive woman because she is more attractive, not because she is doing less work. If that same more attractive woman was doing more work than the other woman, the more attractive woman would win because she is more attractive. Has nothing to do with the amount of work. Yes a man who wants to marry will probably marry the woman in front of him, because she is in front of him. He will not go back to the woman who worked hard because THEY BROKE UP, not because she wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:33 AM
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Presentation most likely will not affect whether I find her attractive but will affect whether I want a relationship with her. Example, a woman wearing revealing clothing will look attractive, but I would not entertain her. Turn-offs > Tattoos. Doesn't matter how great the tattoo looks or how meaningful it is to her. > Revealing clothing. I do not want a woman who is comfortable wearing see-through yoga pants out in public. > Too many piercings. I prefer ear piercings only. Ideally not more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 07:43 PM
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Poor people don't have the resources to have fun or explore the world, so they make do with what they have, their bodies, and with whom they have around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:32 PM
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Haha, I'm sure he liked being chased by you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:50 PM
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How long was the last time we had sex? If it is more than a week, then probably I would do it. If it is less than a week, surely she can survive one day. But generally it depends on the stress levels. If I'm only tired, I would go for it. If I am stressed on top of it, the stress levels determine if I do it or not. As 1 commenter has said, when a woman is rejected, she normally makes the issue about herself. This is also prevalent when a man has one of those days where the penis just doesn't com…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:32 PM
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Damn. I guess short women and women with no boobs deserve no love and should die alone then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:28 PM
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Factor 1: How do you do that? Factor 3: How would you measure how one person loves you more/best than the other since in this scenario they both told you they loved you? Regarding accepting you as you are, what if the guy who is trying to change you is doing so because he sees potential or areas of improvement in you? He isn't changing you for self-interest but for your benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:31 AM
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What is your idea of fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:22 AM
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How would you measure assertiveness? What is the difference between opening up emotionally and bringing emotional baggage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:21 AM
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Haha, don't be greedy, leave 1 for another woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:19 AM
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Tallest guy gets the win. Do you have a maximum height or you would always go for the tallest between the 2 guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:18 AM
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Pet approval? How would that go? Is it the amount of time your cat spends next to the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:12 AM
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Obviously. What would make you like the one more than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:08 AM
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Alright. What set those guys apart, the ones whom you would ask out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:07 AM
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Would you go for size or skill over size, or perhaps both?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:05 PM
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Good answer. Interesting that you want someone in your career field. Some people prefer to date outside their fields because they do not want to talk about that specific field from morning to night. Don't you think that dating someone outside your field would be to your benefit? Say you were venting about something that seems like a big deal to you, your partner come with a completely different eye to the situation and makes your problem seem miniscule, not in a bad or dismissive way of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:58 PM
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Damn! Alright then, go get that D. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:53 PM
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Normally how do you get emotionally attached to someone? Is it through shared interests, life experiences, or maybe you emotionally attach through empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:46 PM
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What is love to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:33 PM
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The dudes in question are decent dudes that you are attracted to. How would you determine mutual love?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:32 PM
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For you how does 'more work' look like? is it if she texts more, plans dates more, or some other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:26 PM
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Alright. What are some of the traits you would look for and how would you measure if one has more of those traits than the other? Assuming they both have traits you like
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:22 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:20 PM
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And what are some of the things that would make you like one over the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:14 PM
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Wow, an age gap relationship topic not full of hateful comments, I'm surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:48 AM
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Haha, I had a feeling that example about virgins would have you in your feelings. If you read my statement again, nowhere did I say, "All Men". You are focusing too much on the examples I gave (virgin women, Bahamas) and not addressing the point I was making with those examples, that is "Men like giving women new experiences". ​ They want the approval of others. Other men. Just, no. A career or education of the woman might be impressive, but men would care more about how beautiful she is than ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:42 AM
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I have to disagree. Men do not think in class terms. Women think about class. Again, men in the upper class date women in upper class due to proximity (mostly. Sometimes its about synergies, i.e. a lawyer might want to date an accountant because he wants free accounting services from his woman for his practice. Sometimes it's an insurance against divorce, i.e. if the woman is highly qualified, the man will pay less or no alimony). Men do not always care about life experience because men want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:56 PM
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A woman's career is beneficial in her dating life but not in the way you think. Let me explain. Your career benefits you by exposing you to the men in that career or social circle. Meaning, a female dentist is more likely to date other doctors due to her spending time with other doctors. The male doctor you speak of will not date a McDonalds worker not necessarily because he does not want to date her, but because he does not spend time with her as much as the female dentist. So yes, a woman's ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:36 AM
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Ok, I get that. However, if you look at the initial comment by OP in this thread, he painted a picture of being with men who like women, and want to experiment with men. It doesn't seem like its people who are looking for any form of relationship other than experimenting. So, comparing those men (men who only want sex) to men who are looking for relationships with women does not make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:41 PM
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Reading your OP it seemed you were concerned about them cheating on you. You complained about 1 line replies. If sex is the only thing you are looking for, why would 1 line replies be an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:21 PM
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OP is looking for gay sex with other men who want gay sex and not a romantic relationship, and is complaining about the fact that those guys only want sex and are not interested in holding deep conversations. Make it make sense. u/BusinessClass208 why are you even concerned about someone cheating if you are not interested in a romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:45 PM
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Noice
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 07:21 AM
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Yeah I'm with you here. I have no idea what was just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:30 AM
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Sure. And for girls, in order for them to be women they need to take care of themselves. Learn to cook and clean. Men want a submissive woman, not a masculine boss b. Also, men are not financial resources, they are people. Treat them as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:58 PM
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Besides the commitment and vows the spouses take, leaving a girlfriend involves 2 people. You and the girlfriend. With spouses, like you said, the government is involved. Legal costs. Attorneys/Lawyers. Kids. In laws. Alimony. Child support. Child mental issues. Asset splits, and so forth. It's not about which one hurts more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:19 PM
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Leaving a boy/girlfriend is not the same as leaving a wife/husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:27 AM
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Not OP, but I think I can answer. It's not about a woman being helpless, it's about being needed to do something, or wanted for certain things. Example, say my girlfriend had a flat tire while driving, it would be nice for her to call me to come help her out. If she calls roadside assistance and not me I would feel some type of way about it. This is just one example. Even though she has other options (i.e. not helpless), being the option she picks first is basically what men want. If you as a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:29 PM
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This was not my argument or stance, but an example I used to define hypocrite and double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:43 PM
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I remember this discussion, will try sum it up. Hypocrisy: Promiscuity is bad and everyone should be faithful and have 1 or few partners. The speaker however does not live up to this belief as they are promiscuous. NOT hypocrisy: Women should not be promiscuous but men can be promiscuous. This is not hypocrisy but a double standard. If the speaker is a man, since all your given examples are referring to men, and this man is promiscuous but expects women not to be promiscuous, this is a double st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:23 PM
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Cool, and I am not against women wanting masculinity in men and them not wanting to be in the masculine role, so I agree with what you said. ​ I want to ask you why does it feel difficult for a man to keep initiating thing during the relationship? Is it laziness, insecurities or maybe a lack of appreciation by the woman? Why is insecurity mostly the number 1 go to argument women make? What insecurities would a man have that makes him not initiate a date with his woman? Personally, I would initia…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:17 AM
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I mostly agree with what you said, but want to ask or add a few things. Regarding initiating dates, yes men do initiate dates at the beginning, but once the relationship is in full swing, why don't women initiate dates? As a man, I know I need to put effort in so the relationship can begin, but once we are in a relationship, I would like to see the woman I am with to also seem interested in the relationship by initiating things and telling me what she would like to do. So why don't women like to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:08 AM
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Based on the response, I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:46 PM
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This is not what the OP is talking about though. A girl who was shy and did not approach guys is normal and expected. What the OP is talking about is a situation where the guy approached the girl, asked her out and the girl rejected him. Actively rejected him. Then 10 years later she comes back and says "i've had my fun and now i don't want to do all those fun things, I now want to be with you". You are safe don't worry. No guy wants "revenge" from you because you were shy in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:03 AM
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You see you specifically stated that the man is using my daughter. You didn't ask about age only, you stated other negative qualities attached to this hypothetical man. I wouldn't be comfortable my daughter being used by anyone for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:31 PM
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Sometimes people just don't think things through. On one hand they say they are concerned about the safety of women and that men should protect women from these bad and evil men out there, then on the other hand they advocate for women to invite different men to literary go inside their bodies when a woman is at her most vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:41 PM
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Or, men and women are different and are attracted to different things in each other. If men and women looked for the same things in each other no one would partner up. There are things that have to be different. i.e. if both men and women looked for a tall partner, no one would partner up with each other because someone has to be shorter than the other. On the matter of career women, what qualities does a career person have that attracts the opposite person? Normally a career-oriented person kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:28 PM
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Women risk the chances of getting assaulted, STDs and pregnancy by engaging in hookup culture. There’s no gain for a woman in sleeping around unless she’s doing it for money or to gain power. This is the real answer. And as a man, I am not angry at women who do this (i'm sure some men are) I just think they are being careless and I do not want such a person in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:17 AM
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Sorry to jump in here, OP is arguing with everyone whether you agree or disagree with him. Seems like he wants people to agree with each word he wrote there because he knows how women really feel and think. This just defeats the whole point of a CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:43 PM
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Depends by how much. It's not rare for women to get resentful of their husbands if she makes significantly more then him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:51 PM
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I didn't look at the videos and will only respond to the career topic. There's a difference between employed women, career driven women, and boss babes. (according to me at least) Employed women: Men do not have an issue with these women. These are women who go to work, probably enjoy what they do, or not, and get a paycheck so they can go live their lives. Most men want these women. Career women: Often put career ahead of everything. That's good for her, but not always good for the relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:26 PM
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Ohhhh man. This post, the comments. So, this is what u/UMDQuestionsBurner is saying (i think) in one of the comments about 'John' Hypocrisy John (unmarried) sleeps around with different women all the time, but John believes all man should be virgins until marriage. Double Standard John believes all men should sleep around but Women should not. - One is hypocrisy, because John, a man, believes all men should wait until marriage but John, a man, does not live up to that belief. - The other is a do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:08 PM
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Altercasting. What you just described is called altercasting. Definition below: > the term “altercasting” refers to the practice of casting the “other” (the “alter”) into a specific role. It is a method of forcing individuals into predetermined social roles to make them more likely to act in a manner that is congruent with those roles. - source: sociology.plus/glossary/altercasting or > Altercasting is where you cast someone in a positive role and then frame the terms of that role in a way that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:47 AM
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Most people marry within their socioeconomic circle. Despite this sub always denying that fact, it is in fact reality. I don't think people here deny this. They normally complain that women want Chads. What people want and what they get are not always the same thing. If most people end up driving cars that cost around USD30 000, that does not prove that they never wanted to drive cars costing more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:16 PM
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I disagree with the statement that it affects the standards of attractiveness. There's always been men attracted to big women and there's always been men attracted to thin women. Otherwise why would porn categories like BBW even exist in the first place? As a man, what attracts me is not based on what I see on fashion magazines because I never look at fashion magazines. If 90% of women became obese, I would have no choice but to find them attractive and vice versa, if 90% of women became underwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:42 PM
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True, we like "natural" looking make up because it looks natural and does not seem like you are wearing make up. The problem is, most of the time we only see these women wearing make up all the time, to the point where one day if the woman decides not to wear make up, they look different and we prefer to look at their made-up version. Kind of like when you see someone without spectacles for the first time when you always have seen that person with their glasses on. I would also like to find out …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:45 PM
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You are right. There is no "acceptable time or place to approach a woman" because no one knows the exact time and place they will meet their desired partner. You can approach a woman ANYWHERE. The woman just has to find something about you attractive to HER in order for the interaction to go smooth. If you get a no, take it and leave, do not try to change a no to a yes, unless you already know that woman. Do NOT join a club with the intention of meeting a woman. If you join any club, find a club…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:16 PM
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In a world where women say they would rather be single than change their standards, do you think more gay men will make women pick men they are not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:42 PM
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Sure, gender does not make a person a good leader either. But i still disagree with intelligence making someone a good leader. Intelligence does not make a person good at influencing other people to take action. Intelligence can help those people make good decisions but will not make them take action. Since we are talking about a relationship here, you have to take into effect that most women generally choose men that they are comfortable with letting them take the leadership role. The average w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:19 PM
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Being intelligent alone does not make one a great leader. A lot of leaders use smart people in order to lead effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:23 PM
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Workplace romance is not the problem. The issue is that it opens up the possibility of a superior using their position to either force or influence the subordinate to be in the relationship. Also, the person in power is taking a huge risk if they try flirting with someone who reports to them. A lot of people still meet at work, so it’s not as if workplace romance is not allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:33 PM
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Good question, i hope the answer comes through
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:29 PM
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Teenagers do all sort of things that their parents disapprove of or things that their parents would be hurt by if they found out their child were doing. Does that mean the teenager does not love their parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 09:02 AM
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Was about to agree with OP then saw this response. Nice. I still think unconditional love is not common amongst non-family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:03 PM
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True, it is high. My argument is that most men are not violent. The number of violent men decreases even further when you take into account that most violent men are repeat offenders, if it was their first time they will probably do it again. Meaning, if 100 000 women suffered sexual harassment in the last 6 months, it is unlikely that 100 000 men committed sexual harassment. Chances are each man committed more than 1 act of sexual harassment on average. so the number of perpetrators is smaller …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:25 AM
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Assuming these stats are true, 1 in 4 young women (aged 15-24 years) who have been in a relationship will have already experienced violence by an intimate partner by the time they reach their mid-twenties. That means 75% of women who have been in relationships will NOT experience violence from their patner. Globally about 1 in 3 (30%) of women worldwide have been subjected to either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime. 67% of women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:19 PM
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Go ahead and get all the degrees you want. Just don’t make your degree your personality. Most of the time the degree is not the problem, but the personality of the woman once she has those degrees. Some women end up looking down on men with degrees below their degree. And some women do end up calling all the shots when they make more. Some women do not have respect for men they out-earn by a lot. These are some of the things men think about. Another thing to think about, if you and your future s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:27 PM
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Exactly. I am trying to understand what OP is saying but the argument is just not making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:13 PM
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The past always matters. Does that mean said person is exactly the same as their past self, not necessarily. However, you cannot just overlook that person's past entirely. Most people who claim we should not judge people by their pasts are the people who have sketchy pasts and do not want to face consequences of such pasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:09 PM
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Can you list some of these privileges that men have?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:30 PM
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For men it has nothing to do with mutual attraction, if it was, rape would not be a problem in our society. This is the difference with men and women, most women need attraction in order to have sex, some do not, but most do. Maybe this has something to do with the fact that women have a responsive desire, meaning women typically get sexually excited in response to certain things that men do for them. Men on the other hand have spontaneous desire, meaning, a women does not have to do something i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:40 PM
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Why are they so desperate to fuck someone they're not attracted to in the age of HD porn, Onlyfans and realistic sex dolls? Are you suggesting that men should not have real people with them by their side and rather go watch porn, onlyfans and buy sex dolls? Really? ​ They follow insta models and they talk shit about unfuckable 'ugly' (perfectly average, just not insta model tier) girls all the time. There's things people admit publicly and things people do in private that they wish will never ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 10:27 AM
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I am not misrepresenting what you said. You believe the patriarchy can end capitalism. So the fact that capitalism is alive is because the patriarchy is keeping it alive. Therefore, the reason we live in a capitalistic world is because of the patriarchy. This is all because of capitalism which the patriarchy allow. According to you, the reason we are in a capitalistic world is because the patriarchy allows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:23 PM
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So to you a high value man is someone who runs a company? Are there no high value men who are employees? You speak as if women do not run companies and cannot dish out salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:07 PM
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The fact that you believe the patriarchy can end capitalism kind of states that you blame it for capitalism, maybe you do not think it is the source, but you clearly believe that capitalism is alive because the patriarchy is keeping it alive. Personally, I believe women are the biggest contributors to capitalism. Women are the biggest consumers, thus the biggest contributors to capitalism. Women are willing to pay extra for pink shaving razors while they know that the blue (men) razors are the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:03 PM
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To answer your original question, no. If a man works on himself and becomes a high value man (in any way people define high value), he is not to blame if other men are not getting women. You can blame women for sharing the same guy. Yes, there are women who knowingly get with a man who is in a relationship already, even married, so long as they get their fair share of the man and his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:43 PM
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Ok, I am struggling to understand then why you are connecting capitalism with the patriarchy as if the source of capitalism is the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:35 PM
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I want to hear your definition of the two and how they are connected first, and then also answer the following question, if the majority of the companies were run by women, do you think that they would not care about profits?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:22 PM
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This is all because of capitalism which the patriarchy allow. What is the patriarchy and how is it connected to capitalism?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:12 PM
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You will not find "scientific" evidence or studies that prove women are treated better than men, that goes against the narrative of painting women as victims of (insert whatever). The only time where studies favoring women are published is when they are showing that women are better than men at (insert whatever) You just need to look at what is actually happening outside of online spaces and not always have to rely on "studies"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:16 AM
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Good to see such comments
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:00 PM
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Yeah, some things posted on here belong to any "vent" sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 11:59 AM
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The thing at fault is social media. Social media promotes extremes, all kinds of extremes, unless one extreme succeeds at banning and silencing the other extreme. Normal life does not attract clicks and views. On YouTube, women saying they only want to date guys making $300 000 gets more views and men saying they only want to date women who are housewives gets more views. As a result, people just get discouraged and not want to engage in any dating. Also, because social media promotes extremes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 02:13 AM
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Based on this comment alone, you seem to think that we men just hate fat people. We do not. We tell our friends (fat friends) to hit the gym not because we hate them, but because we want them to have less chances of having medical issues that are related to weight issues and because we believe it will be good for them in general. What you are seeing online is men stating that they will not date fat women, not that they hate fat women. I'm sure there are men who treat women badly due to their wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:00 PM
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Don't combine someone's personality with contributing to the world. There are people who are just bad mannered people and have little to no values but can be contributing hugely to the world and there are good people who contribute nothing to the world. So 1) men care about the woman, 2) you are right, men do not care what that woman contributes to the world. These things are separate not the same. 3) No, it's not just about sex, unless you are talking about people who are just dating around and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:02 PM
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I would agree with the statement that hypergamy does not exist if there weren't so many articles written about how successful women cannot find desirable mates and how men need to step up so that successful women can find their desired mates. What ends up happening is women settle for available men. We hear this all the time, about how women could not find the men they wanted and settled for the available man. https://www.deseret.com/2022/6/20/23172767/perspective-where-have-all-the-good-men-gon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:59 PM
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You do know that beauty and youth are part of the things men look for right? It's not the ONLY thing that matters but it is what sets the attraction in motion. We do care about who women are, and we are willing to overlook certain areas where she is lacking given how attractive the woman is. That is why comedy shows talk about the crazy-hot graph, where they say the more attractive a woman is, the more men are willing to deal with her crazy behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:20 AM
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You cannot dictate what people should and should not be proud of or find attractive. There are men who are proud of their wife's income, the majority on the other hand do not care. Not that they are not proud, they just do not care that much. It's interesting that I recently made a comment about how women like to live in the world of "should" and this post proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:54 AM
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I don't think it is about women not understanding men, but rather women projecting their values on to others. For example, a career woman will say that a man should love her because of her job and education, these are the things that she values from a man and she wants a man to value the same things from her. Another slightly off topic example is how some woman live in the world of "should". I should be able to do ABC without DEF happening. Well, if you do ABC, DEF is most likely to happen, whet…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:47 PM
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Did they propose to you or they just told you they want a serious relationship? If they proposed, you might be right. If they just told you they want a relationship, I would also like to say 'refer to previous message'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 06:52 AM
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I agree with this. Most women tell us that they do makeup and hair and all these things to make themselves beautiful so they can feel good not to attract men. If you ask men, they will say they prefer natural women. Women compete with other women for beauty and make it seem like it’s men that are raising the beauty standards, which is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:43 AM
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