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It's sad that this sub was "quarantined" (or rather, had a thinly veiled attack against it) in the first place, but this appeal is beautifully worded and seems effective enough to either reverse the quarantine or prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Reddit censors and removes dissenting opinions against their own liberal agenda if they choose not to appeal. I hope that TheRedPill can continue to grow and spread valuable information to men who need it now more than ever, but I am also prepared t…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/18 03:58 PM
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A selection from the Book of Pook on this same topic: “Remember,” said Pook. “Change is gradual. Before, you saw no opportunities. Now, you see them all about you, yet you are too hesitant to take them. You’re slowly becoming more aware.” “What are you saying?” “When you find yourself hesitant, always yield to Action. If you see her, do not wait, gawk or wait for a ‘perfect moment’. Action, action, action!” “Pook, I cannot. You see… I am insecure. I don’t have that confidence!” “You are confusin…
/r/TheRedPill12/09/18 12:30 AM
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That's the fundamental philosophical argument behind Egoism vs. Altruism. There's an anecdote about Lincoln arguing this with someone on a train, and he stops the train to help some pigs out of he mud. His opponent uses this to say Lincoln was being Altruistic, because he helped the pigs for no reward. Lincoln responded by saying "No, because if the pigs were left in the mud, I'd feel bad. So I helped them just to make myself feel better."
/r/TheRedPill29/08/18 01:23 AM
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I fundamentally believe that humans are incapable of unconditional love. Everyone loves things, yes. But to say it's unconditional is false. The things we mistake as unconditional are, in fact, reciprocal. You love your dog "unconditionally" because it is unable to do anything but love you back. You are getting a continued good feeling from a dog, and love it for that feeling. If the dog was capable of rejecting you, you wouldn't love it anymore. Thus the love is not unconditional. The things yo…
/r/TheRedPill26/08/18 01:09 AM
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No. Many talented musicians who regularly fill out stadiums still have stage fright. Many comedians who can charm an entire auditorium have anxiety attacks before shows. But they still do it. The human body wants you to be afraid of everything. If you get nervous before doing something, it means you won't get caught by surprise and killed. It's your job to know that nothing bad's gonna happen and keep plowing through. Will the anxiety get lessened over time? Absolutely. But it'll never go away. …
/r/seduction20/08/18 10:01 PM
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You say he isn't fully redpilled, therefor, he does not support our agenda You can absolutely agree with something without devoting yourself to it. He has talked about Hypergamy and the difference between men and women, which are TRP concepts, but he also talks about forced monogamy, which is not. Ergo agrees, but not 100% commits. Why would I want it to be something other than a forum? It's very effective for me and those who are willing to eat the pill. What do you think happens if this gets t…
/r/TheRedPill20/08/18 08:05 AM
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Peterson isn't fully TRP in any way. His ideas on forced monogamy and the importance of marriage are flawed at best, but he is closer to our ideology than anyone else with his level of influence. If you really want TRP to be anything other than a forum with mirrored rules to Fight Club (ergo, don't talk about it), then you need to support people that support our agenda. Yes, someone like Rollo Tomassi is better, and Peterson is flawed in his thinking in many ways, but someone like Rollo isn't go…
/r/TheRedPill19/08/18 10:04 PM
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Buy a fucking book and keep it in you Better pick a light read so you can keep it in your prison pocket. All jokes aside, great post. I feel like you're hyperfocusing on phones, but the point comes across well. People will come up with any excuse to procrastinate. Phones are simply our generations way of condensing our procrastination into a single, efficient device. It's your duty as someone who wants to improve to take time you'd normally waste (on your phone, computer, TV, etc) and use it for…
/r/TheRedPill15/08/18 08:56 PM
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Basically, the cuckolding fetish comes from porn and blue pill mentality mixing. Blue pill men are taught that they aren't good enough to get girls. They need to pedestalize them and earn their affection. So these men become sexually frustrated, because the method that they're using to get pussy is designed not to work. So these men go to porn. Porn is huge because it provides the male sexual fantasy. And a vast majority of blue pilled men watch porn to vicariously live that sexual fantasy since…
/r/askTRP31/07/18 09:54 PM
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Only one with an ego centered in truth can be for to rule for the benefit of all. That's not egoism at that point. The egoist does nothing to benefit others unless it helps them more. The true egoist is an egoist, but when confronted with other egoist, seeks to make them an altuist so they can be more egoistic.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/18 10:29 PM
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You just described a founding principle of Egoism, which is the philosophy Machiavelli teaches. The ideal egoist only cares about what benefits himself in every situation, and works to benefit himself in every situation. But the ideal egoist also works to make everyone else into an altruist, so that they benefit him as well.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/18 09:25 PM
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The nihilism comes from internalizing Red Pill ideas without any meaning behind them, thus causing you to give up hope, not just Hypergamy. Notice I said Red Pill Nihilism, as in Red Pill without meaning, not just nihilism. Hypergamy is just a part of Red Pill ideas, stating that women always want to choose the best mates. The meaning behind it being to improve your SMV to be that best mate. Incels interpret it without the meaning and give up, saying they'll never be the best.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/18 04:08 AM
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I suppose to clarify, it would be the difference between Optimistic Nihilism and the Stereotypical Defeatist Nihilism. The difference between using it as motivation or reason to quit
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 10:37 PM
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The best approach to this for me is just plowing through. Her: You're not my type Me: You must have bad taste in men then, anyway... (continue conversation) It's a shit test just like the boyfriend line. If you don't think it matters, they won't either, and you can carry on with the set. Just lead and continue not giving a fuck. If they give you nothing and you run out of steam, they might genuinely not like you, and you just go approach someone else.
/r/seduction08/07/18 07:32 PM
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;) I understand the contradiction to this and I did word my first point poorly. I forgot to elaborate on it. People care about looks, but genetic flaws that everyone have aren't as important as Incels say they are. Looks matter, but the looks you can change and improve like your physique and your body language are just as important as the genetics, so there's no point caring about things like your chin or nose since you can't do anything about them. People won't care about them if you improve th…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 04:52 AM
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Then bodyweight exercises are fine. First and foremost work on getting a job though
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 02:18 AM
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I'm actually surprised at the effort you take to exaggerate your flaws. And I'd say to maybe do some simpler compound lifting exercises like the Stronglift 5x5.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 02:12 AM
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Again, more self pity and defeatist attitude. And didn't you say you worked out and dressed nice? If you did, I can't see why your body would look bad...
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 11:19 PM
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The fact that you assume the only sex you can get is from prostitutes or unenthusiastic women proves my point that you just believe what you want to.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 10:22 PM
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No, you're saying that to try and use a strawman fallacy against my point. I'm saying genetics doesn't make it impossible to get laid, you just need to try. It's what you've been hearing this whole time, and refuse to believe.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 09:43 PM
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Again, dismissing an argument because you can't defend against it and desperately need to rationalize your ideology when it's being disproven. Work out, dress nice, learn social skills. It's simple, easy, and dramatically helps with women. And I can guarantee 95% of Incels haven't actually done any of it, because they believe they shouldn't have to try to get women, so they blame genetics and overexaggerate the steps they need to take in order to actually get laid.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 09:42 PM
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The Pareto Principle would describe that 20% of the guys get 80% of the girls. But like I said before, your whole idea that no girl will like you falls apart when you understand it's not a zero-sum game. Even a genetic distribution along those lines doesn't separate the men into "gets laid" and "doesn't get laid", its just the way it distributes the resources.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 09:37 PM
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Personality is a blue pill mantra By personality I mean being confident and emotionally independent, a.k.a Red Pill ideals. Status is really really hard to achieve. Not exactly. Status like being a CEO is difficult, but status applies to many different social heirarchies and groups. You can be the leader in a group of friends quite easily, and it gives you status to anyone who interacts with that group. there is certainly some minority of men that are undesirable no matter what... There most lik…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 08:57 PM
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This "Us vs. Them" mentality is yet another excuses used to dismiss differing opinions. Looks matter, and so does personality characteristics, physique, and status. You can't change your genetics, but you can improve the rest dramatically, so stop making genetics your focal point. Just like you say I'm ignoring looks, you're ignoring everything else.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 07:58 PM
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Yes, they also subconsciously check for personality characteristics, status, and physique, which are all things you can actively improve. I'm not saying that genetics don't matter, I'm saying you can't change them, so stop making them the only thing you care about. Focus on everything you can change and see how far it gets you.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 07:53 PM
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People care about looks, it is even backed by science. Of course people care about looks. It's common sense that they would. But it's also been proven through many studies that girls like guys who have a nice body and guys that take care of themselves. Yet no one likes to admit that if they worked out and actively tried to improve themselves, they wouldn't look bad. It's all "my chin is weak/nose is large therefore there's nothing I can do", when you never try to see what you can actually achiev…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 07:50 PM
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Besides when an experienced girl see that you fuck bad, she won't fuck u again. So it's really hard to get xp. Again, like I said in my first comment, you're just making up excuses. When I lost my virginity, I lasted maybe a whole 10 seconds. I kept my cool and didn't freak out and apologize, and guess what? The girl kept fucking me. Then I got better and learned to actually fuck. You're lying to yourself and moving the goalpost up with this whole virgin thing. U were a textbook volcel/schroedin…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 06:07 PM
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Maybe. But I would hazard a guess that only a very small portion of the Incel community is actually this ugly. The majority just ride the wave of low self esteem
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 05:47 PM
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The Incel mentality is Red Pill Nihilism. It's the idea that since women seek out the best mates, they'll never possibly sleep with someone less than perfect. Basically a sexual zero-sum game. And it's a fundamental misunderstanding of TRP. Yes, women seek out the best mates. But the best mates won't always find these women. There are plenty of girls whose highest SMV mate was just some fit guy with confidence. The supposed "Chads" that fuck every girl and look like a Photoshopped Dan Bilzerian …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/18 08:23 AM
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It seems like you're entering Anger phase, and have some misconceptions about TRP. Hopefully I can clear some up. I’m talking like I’d “respect” woman and almost be submissive(?) to them (for a lack of better words), I would put them on a pedestal, and basically treat them differently and would was a nice guy (I was never a jerk or a dick to them). I don't think "respect" is a good term here. You supplicated to women and thought them better than you, like every blue pilled man is taught to think…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 09:30 AM
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What they do is that they adapt the "Fuck you" position and start thinking of themselves as gods and that the woman who has just rejected them was simply unworthy I don't really agree with the argument you're making here that nice guys™ share similarities with Alphas. The premise that when a nice guy™ snaps he becomes narcissistic, is false. Everything a nice guy™ does to get a girl is outwardly selfless and inwardly selfish. It's the idea that after treating a girl nice, she'll owe you sex. Thi…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/18 09:03 AM
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See that seems like a reasonable answer for select cases, but with the consistency at which it happens, and the destructive nature of pulling their friend away (if they did so out of spite, the hot girl would probably be mad), I can't see it being a primary motivator. Because girls don't pull away friends when it's just the hot guy. They do it for average guys and anyone that gets the hot girl going (I'd know from experience being an average guy). I'd wager this is 100% because they want to cool…
/r/seduction02/07/18 08:08 AM
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That seems plausible as an ulterior motive from the ugly girls (the same way nice guys™ will try and tool their friends out of getting laid), but I can't seeing it being the sole reason, since it's a destructive move on the ugly girl's part, and would not happen as frequently as it does. The most likely scenario would be a combination of both. With the ugly girl being potentially jealous, and the hot girl cooling down and triggering ASD.
/r/seduction02/07/18 03:31 AM
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Care to explain why?
/r/seduction02/07/18 02:53 AM
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Just a quick example similar to what I'd send to girls Me: Hey, what's up? Her: Nm. U? Me: Just walking around naked since it's so hot out (I'll almost always send something ridiculous and funny as a hook) Her: What? Really? Lol Me: No, but I'm glad you had so much fun picturing it :P Her: I did not! Me: Suuuure. Pervert Me: Anyway... (something else) I've sent texts similar to this, where by the end I'll make plans for us to hang out, and more often than not they'll say yes. If not, it's super …
/r/seduction02/07/18 12:46 AM
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Cockblocking is the action, ASD is what drives it. The girls know that she's interested in the guy, and if he doesn't make it socially acceptable (i.e getting them all on his side) then their ASD kicks in, and they pull her away to let her cool off (a.k.a realize what she's doing is "slutty"). Otherwise they know she'll probably sleep with him.
/r/seduction02/07/18 12:35 AM
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ASD When girls go out, they usually don't plan to get fucked. So when one of them is getting hit on and her interest level is spiking through the roof, the others will quickly pull her aside to cool her off and make sure she's not the only one getting dick that night. If your friend wanted to pull these girls, the best option is to make friends with her friends. If you can get on their side, they're much less likely to pull the girl away. This is one of the fundamentals of the Mystery Method and…
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:15 PM
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My Tips for Text Game Don't text her like you're BFFs(this just means don't share your feelings and act friendly without any sexual energy to accompany it) Either text for logistics, or ramp up the sexual energy (If she's interested, go for a meetup and keep it minimal. If she's on the fence/not very interested, tease her with sexual remarks and outlandish statements to peak her interest) Match her investment level (She sends 3 texts, send 2. She replies four hours later, do the same) If it can …
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:07 PM
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TL;DR: Eye contact is pretty fuckin' important Well, for starters lack of strong eye contact immediately makes you appear submissive, and kills any sexual tension between you and a girl. In everyday life it also makes you appear very untrustworthy and shy. (e.g. "Why isn't this guy looking at me? It must mean he's uncomfortable/hiding something") What eye contact provides, once you've gotten used to it, is a way of dominating people with just your eyes. Going way back to our primate days, humans…
/r/seduction01/07/18 10:23 AM
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If you're at the point where you think that PUA's are all bullshut, then you really don't need to keep reading material. Just go out and teach yourself through experience. Write field reports, experiment, and keep what works. The only people that say pickup is all bullshut are people who are too experienced to learn from it, or not experienced enough to understand it. So either you're slipping back into Nice guy™ "That's not how girls work!" thinking, or you just don't need pickup material anymo…
/r/seduction30/06/18 09:03 PM
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Do it because you want to, just like you do everything else. If you don't wanna eat pussy, don't do it. Use it as a power move like the guy says (almost certainly because he doesn't like doing it too). But if you genuinely like doing it, do it. Because you're a man and you do what you want. Eating a girl's pussy puts immediately puts you underneath her because it makes it seem as if you're lucky to have sex with her, which is not the case You could say the same about any sexual act. "Don't take …
/r/askTRP30/06/18 08:25 PM
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As someone with Resting Bitch Face myself, I know the struggle. It takes a conscious effort for me to appear happy, so most of the time girl's will mirror my serious demeanor. Just learn not to judge a book by it's cover and approach anyways. 99% of girls will light up, since they weren't bitchy to begin with. The other 1% are actual bitches, and even then you can usually make them laugh/smile with minimal effort. I'd consider this one of the positives of swallowing the pill. Realizing that no o…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/18 01:43 AM
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Jesus man, you're overcomplicating things more than if you just texted like a nice guy. Here's my actual tips for texting: You aren't Shakespeare, so don't write long texts. You shouldn't count the characters of her text to make it shorter, because that's retarded, but make sure what you're texting is meaningful and to-the-point. Match her interest level. Again, don't set a timer to text her or do the math on when to reply. If she replies quick, do the same. If she takes an hour or four, just go…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/18 08:51 AM
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I would, but giving specific examples to specific situations isn't all that helpful more than it's just entertaining and cathartic. And the general principle behind them is just "Lead, Be Confident, Assume Attraction", so it's not new information.
/r/askTRP29/06/18 02:50 AM
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I'll give a couple examples, just for fun. Approaching The BP Way Him: Hi there! How are you? Her: Um, hi. I'm good. Him: Oh, well that's good. What are you up to? Her: Oh, blah blah blah. Him: Cool! Anyway, I just thought you were cute and had to say hi. Her: Oh, okay. (conversation continues) The RP Way Him: Hey there, aren't you cute. Her: Oh? Thanks. Him: You're welcome. I just thought I might make your day and say hi. What are you up to? Her: *giggles* blah blah blah. (conversation continue…
/r/askTRP29/06/18 01:42 AM
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As others have said, it's less feminism and more capitalism. When women go shopping, they want the absolute best options and brands and accessories, which is a microcosm of their Hypergamy with men. They know they're spoiled and can just buy whatever shit they want. So stores fill their shelves with shit for women since they know they'll buy it all. When men go shopping, we'll simply find something that fits, looks classy, and isn't absurdly expensive. We don't need many options because even if …
/r/TheRedPill27/06/18 09:57 PM
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Experience and PUA material can both teach you about seduction, just in different ways. If you didn't have experience by 18, then PUA material can help replace it until you get enough.
/r/seduction26/06/18 05:02 AM
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Seduction isn't complicated at all. Just approach a girl confidently, build attraction with her, and escalate smoothly. That's it. Do that without being weird and if she has any inkling of attraction towards you, you'll seduce her. Modern seduction as it's taught by instructors like RSD, forums like this one, or in the classic Mystery Method popularity surge, are very complicated though. Why is this? It's first and foremost because guys no longer know how to talk to women. With the advance of cu…
/r/seduction25/06/18 08:47 AM
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This may not be the sub you were looking for, but it's certainly the one you need right now
/r/seduction24/06/18 07:45 PM
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But in reality, "fucking for looks" is the most genuine. I'm not disagreeing with this. Yes, physical attraction has a lot to do with sexual attraction. But it's not the whole picture. Otherwise you're saying that in 95% of sexual encounters the girl doesn't even want to have sex, because the man isn't a male model. Think about this from yours (mens) perspective - it's the closest to our mentality thus its more pure Men and women are not similar at all when it comes to attraction. Even from the …
/r/TheRedPill19/06/18 06:02 PM
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Well these comments you're quoting might be true for that woman. She might only be in it for looks and that's all she cares about. But are you this woman? Is this woman representative of all people? No. I'm gonna go different from what might normally be said in response to a post like this, and I'm going to agree with you. But with an asterisk at the end so big you'll have a hard time finding room to shove it where the black pill you've got up your ass is currently lodged. Appearance is 100% of …
/r/TheRedPill19/06/18 06:59 AM
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I'll look at her if I'm going to approach her. Otherwise I couldn't care less.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 11:01 AM
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Girls want a guy that can pick them up and fuck them, not a Scott pilgrim wannabe. Fuck you, I love that movie :) I agree with everything though. Girls go for Chris Evans over Michael Cera any day of the week.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 04:30 AM
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If you're going to the gym to impress girls, you're giving them validation that they're better than you if you didn't work out. So go to the gym to be a better man instead. If you're dressing nice and driving Lambo's to the club to impress girls, you're giving them validation that they'd be better than you if you were poor. So spend money on what makes you happy, and dress how you want to dress instead. Doing things to impress girls gives them validation, because it communicates that you need to…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 04:25 AM
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Compared to the 80% of guys who don't even go to the gym it is
/r/TheRedPill18/06/18 12:55 AM
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Women only want 3 things from the men who are attracted to them: Dick (if they're Alpha Fux) Resources (if they're Beta Bux) Validation (if they're anyone else) If you're not approaching a woman and being Alpha (not showing Alpha, there's a difference) they won't want your dick. If you're not loaded they won't want your resources. So the only thing you're giving them is validation. DON'T GIVE WOMEN VALIDATION UNLESS THEY'VE EARNED IT If you want to be Alpha to a woman, approach her and be Alpha.…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/18 08:48 PM
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I agree with you here. Wrong actions don't accomplish anything, and neither do actions done for other people. That's why I specified that actions in this case are defined as working towards your goal.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/18 02:03 PM
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The defining characteristic of a man can be boiled down to his ability to take action. Women never have to take action, since the world effectively comes to them. Beta-boys never take action because they've been bred to be afraid of it (or more accurately, it's consequences). But men always strive to take action. It's their duty. And because of this, men reach goals that women and Beta's cannot. What is taking action? Anything that pushes toward a goal, without giving thought to possible repurcu…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/18 10:30 PM
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This is my first time writing in one of these threads, so here's my starting point. POSITIVES Been practicing Stoicism for the last month or so. For the first time in my life I feel in control of my emotions. I used to have emotional breakdowns and lose my cool often, but now I just feel constantly neutral or amused. I recently bought some new clothes and I've started dressing better. I used to wear exclusively t-shirts and jeans, now it's short sleeve button ups, Henleys, and v-necks. Because o…
/r/TheRedPill09/06/18 01:43 AM
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Game = (Frame + Social Skills) x Appearance You are probably an average/above average looking guy with some social skills, so you noticed that frame helped you a lot, but there is more than just frame. You can have unshakeable frame and still not get laid because you're not socially aware. Also, I know you said "fuck that" to grammar and punctuation, but at the very least edit the post later to make it readable. The constant exclamation points and run-on sentences make it look like a 13 year old…
/r/TheRedPill03/06/18 01:23 AM
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Well you didn't even comprehend the bait I gave enough to realize you fell for it (nor did you understand what a quote was), so any possible explanation for you being serious has gone out the window. Good job trolling. Even though you were coming off way too serious in the middle there, you managed to bring the entertainment in your replies back near the end. You're like a GayLubeOil who's all troll, no actual argument. And I can respect the effort you went through to make me believe you were be…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/18 07:30 PM
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I understand your message about the expanding blue pill narrative to make everything about equality and "feeling good", but the Black Jesus analogy is very weak and mostly inaccurate, considering most people now know Jesus would've been a darker Middle Eastern that was white washed to fit the Christian narrative (where even God, who is supposed to not even really have a form, is still an old white guy). So even the classic depiction of Jesus would've been Blue Pill, according to your definition.…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/18 05:54 PM
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Well it seems that you've now devolved into removing the argument component from your responses altogether. You now use insults and ad hominem attacks instead of coherent points, as you lack any. You are arguing that human rights aren't necessary and that evidence isn't even a real concept. It seems you can't even make your own points, having to copy-paste my use of "irrelevant and disregarded". I would continue this thread simply on the basis that scientists can study it in the future to learn …
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 09:47 PM
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So what, 18 year olds are capable of independent thought, but not 17 year olds? I agree that the specifics of the age are not ideal. But 18 is an approximation of the age when you are developed enough and have participated in enough schooling (people who drop out being an exception, not the rule) that you would be able to properly think independently. CEO's and hos get paid according to what they do within their company, the reason I said this was you said that people have rights according to th…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 06:07 AM
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I guess I disagree with you then.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 05:03 AM
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If your ideal society is one governed by a rich upper class where the general population isn't allowed to vote, you must fundamentally disagree with the founding of America, considering that's what they rebelled against and rose above. Liberalism is stupid, but it exists within modern democracy, all of which incorporates giving all participating citizens the right to vote.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 04:18 AM
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Women weren't in the workforce en-masse at that time. So that's irrelevant. And the economy was at it's peak despite women, not because of them. That's just your word, nothing factual. Disregarded. And you don't understand basic psychology. Sure sex is vital for reproduction but incels don't go on sprees because they aren't reproducing but because other guys have something they want and can't find a way to get. You seem to really understand incels, don't you? Again, no proof. Disregarded. What c…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 04:10 AM
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Again, since you couldn't think for yourself or do your own research I had to give you some research that takes literally five seconds to google, but you're too lazy to even do that. Debate 101: If your opponent is expected to research your argument because you only give speculation, that's a bad argument Because chimps elect a leader. So its perfectly relevant. Out of context this is a hilarious sentence to read. In context you're changing the topic and not making a point. So? Why should we eve…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 03:53 AM
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Did you not read what I wrote - I said support can be anything from papers to reasoning. Yes, and you gave none of that besides your word until I called you out. I don't expect an article supporting what you said, just an explanation so you make sense. No. Chimps have a democratic society too. As do a few other primate species too. Chimps have a representative republic where elected officials make decisions to create policy and change their constitution? Because if not I don't see how that's rel…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 02:03 AM
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Okay... So you're showing how ridiculous your own argument is then? Because if sexual dimorphism should determine societal responsibilities, then yes, peacocks and men should be the only ones to vote. But that's never been a determinate factor in government or culture, even when women weren't allowed to vote. Capability of independent and rational thought is a deciding factor in who should be allowed to vote, and sexual dimorphism only alters the behavioral factors surrounding the use of thought…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 01:36 AM
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What I described was literally the way society operated before 1960. Women were not a burden on the GDP because they were part of a family unit and were provided for by a man - something you'd know if you actually read the sidebar and understood trp. Pre-1960's economy might've been better, I'll admit that, but it was at its peak shortly after WWII, when women were in the workforce. He kills people not because he doesn't get sex, but because other men get sex but he gets none. But if no-one is h…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 01:31 AM
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Then why can 18 year olds living in their parents' basement vote? Because they are functioning adults. They may not be independent financially, but they are capable of independent thought. Purely realistic perspective? You mean your opinion? Everyone in the US has a vote, whether you're a fortune 500 CEO or an ass-reaming prostitute. So you're saying factually incorrect things. Yes, and a fortune 500 CEO gets paid equal to his responsibility of his company, and a prostitute gets paid equal to th…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 12:58 AM
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Do you not believe that women are humans? That they are biologically the same species as men? Because that was my point. I even went on to say that men and women are different in most aspects besides our soecies. I feel like you're cherry picking parts of my argument you can make snappy responses to, but not actually reading it.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 12:52 AM
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I actually don't. We aren't writing academic treatsies and in this case support can mean anything. Pictures? Books? Links? Rational argumentation. That's why I make an effort in being clear in my writing and you should too. From Google: "An argumentusually arises from a disagreement between two persons, each of whom advances facts supporting his or her own point of view." So by saying you don't believe in support, you're saying you're not making an argument. So wait, is democracy an important as…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 12:50 AM
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Lack of validity according to who? You? LOL Validity: the quality of being logically or factually sound. I don't think you understand the definition of validity if you think it's based on opinion. Actually, the GDP would go up if you remove women. Fewer workers --> greater value of currency --> higher salaries --> more products purchased --> more money recycled into the economy. Yes, if all women dropped of the face of the Earth the GDP would rise. But if women remained in society without workin…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 12:32 AM
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Hopefully this is my last reply, though I suspect you'll drag this out more. Says who? Define 'support'? Don't even try. If you don't know what support to an argument means you're either being purposefully incompetent or honestly haven't finished high school. No they haven't. You haven't responded to my disagreement where I say that China is more prosperous than Western civ and is not a democracy. You have not responded to why you think democracy is important in the first place. You have not res…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/18 12:03 AM
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I haven't responded because there's nothing to respond to. Your arguments have no support, which invalidates them. All of your attempts to question my premise have been answered. And the only points you are now making are ad hominem: you're attacking me as a person instead of my argument, which is both irrelevant and a prominent fallacy that serves only to invalidate your argument further. As far as I can see, you lost. There's no point in which you actually invalidated my argument, but there ha…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 11:34 PM
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Well, I might have to reply now since I'm starting to enjoy this. You should've led with the illogical writing, lack of any validity to your arguments, and blatant attempt to make me mad. It's much more interesting than just bad points. Cats interact with other cats in society and with their owners and other people want to pet a cute cat. This does not constitute contribution. If you removed the contribution of babies and cats, society would not be hurt. Remove contribution from women and the GD…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 11:28 PM
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Wow. I wrote a whole reply to your other comment about how you're not even being logical anymore, but this reply seems to de-value your entire point on its own. Good job trolling though.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 10:53 PM
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Participating in society means: Interacting with others in a society Following the laws and rules of a society Contributing to society (before you reply that women don't contribute, I'll just say that spending money and giving birth are absolutely a part of that) Cats and infants don't participate in society, women do. For those exact reasons. I'd reply to the rest of your points, but asking to define participation was the only logical one I could find. You gave no actual points, and anything re…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 10:49 PM
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In Ancient Greece/Rome, the vote was given to those who served in the army because they put much on the line for the state. That is why men would bare their chests to demonstrate their scars as proof of their service. In early America, the vote was only given to landowners and then to those who could be conscripted Yes, and in Russia they implemented Communism and millions starved. You're bringing up alternate forms of government without any comparison as to how they're better. I would say that …
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 10:24 PM
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Sure, we are of the same species (ie human males and females can create fertile offspring when they breed), but our similarities end there. Yes, and my entire argument was based on being similar on that basis. Everyone has different ideas and ways of thinking based on culture, upbringing, and biology, but we're all fundamentally the same in that we are people in a society. And the basis of democracy (a.k.a voting) is that everyone that participates in a society has the opportunity to vote in tha…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 10:10 PM
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The Red Pill is only the Red Pill so long as it results in rational thought. If the point of TRP was solely controversy, the it would be nothing more than a troll community. If this post is meant to be a troll, it does a good job, but as a serious post, it's not rational. Advocating for female sufferage is no different than advocating for female equality in a relationship. That's a logical leap I can't follow. Women are equal to men in that we're all humans. And as such all humans deserve the ri…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 08:50 PM
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Children and retarded people are both dependant on others. They are looked after by parents/caretakers and can't function on their own. Voting is a privilege to those that can independently function. Women may be dependant in a relationship and in social situations, but as functioning adults they can have the capacity to be independent, whether that's good or bad, and as such deserve the right to vote. I'm not trying to say that they morally deserve it, but from a purely realistic perspective a …
/r/TheRedPill29/05/18 08:42 PM
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This is fundamentally wrong and is exactly what outsiders point to when they say that TRP is toxic. Yes, men and women make decisions differently. But as long as they're citizens of their respective countries, they deserve a vote to decide the future of said country. Their decisions may be different than an ideal alpha male's, but it accounts for 50% of the population regardless, and to silence them would be moving away from civilized society. If you want the leaders of a country to be male, the…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/18 10:07 PM
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I say "unless she asks" for someone who is a virgin. If the girl asks, it means she cares about the answer, and lying as a virgin usually fucks you over once she notices you've never had sex before because you're probably bad in bed. It's usually worse to lie than to tell her. If you've had sex before and she asks, I agree that lying or being playful is best (When a girl asks me how many I've slept with, I'll usually fake count on one hand, then say "27", and then they drop the topic).
/r/seduction21/05/18 08:14 AM
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LPT: In any situation with a girl, don't tell her how many girls you've slept with (especially if it's zero) unless she asks
/r/seduction21/05/18 12:33 AM
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Anger usually just passed with time. You realize that while women aren't what you thought they were, there's nothing you can do to fundamentally change their nature. So instead of being mad of women, you can understand and effectively deal with them. Something that helps is to practise Stoicism, since it lets you control your emotions.
/r/TheRedPill19/05/18 09:40 PM
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Well you seem to be in the anger stage, and these thoughts of all women as evil aren't entirely rational. Women can offer more than their bodies. The difference between men and women is that men are naturally gifted with the capacity to lead, and women are naturally gifted with their bodies. So while a loser man can't offer a lot, since he's not using his capacity to lead, a loser woman on the other hand will still have her body. So don't think of women's bodies as all they have, but rather the …
/r/TheRedPill19/05/18 07:38 PM
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Man, and here I am not spending a dime on girls and getting laid. Have I been doing it wrong this whole time?
/r/TheRedPill18/05/18 07:27 AM
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Arguably the #1 Rule to Being a Man: Grin and Bear It
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 02:39 PM
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I think this is actually similar to the benefits of No Fap. Sexual and other primal urges used to be our greatest motivator pre-civilization. If you weren't horny enough to strive to reproduce, your genetic line ended. If you weren't hungry enough to hunt, you'd starve to death. In modern times, most people are unmotivated, and in no small part to the ease of access to food and porn. By satisfying their base urges that used to be their motivation, people stopped trying and let themselves go.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 02:36 PM
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So effectively a 100% chance of going to jail no matter what? In that case I may as well do nothing. Why not bring back a feminist now and get it over with
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 01:51 PM
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I liked that one too, but I remember hearing something like it before, whereas the chastity belt one was new to me.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 06:54 AM
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It might be morally questionable, I agree. But it's a defense against potentially life-ruining charges, and if no girl ever accuses me of rape, then it's no harm done since they wouldn't know.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 03:49 AM
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I imagine any case against me would crumble instantly upon hearing I have video evidence against them. 99% of girls would drop charges because they don't want anyone watching the video, and anyone crazy enough to do it wouldn't have much of a case with said conclusive video evidence in play. I agree it might not help Aziz Ansari, but that's entirely due to his celebrity status being used against him. To any normal guy it wouldn't negatively impact them more than false rape accusations would.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 03:47 AM
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I've been considering buying a little GoPro camera to set up in my room that I can set to film whenever I bring a girl over. I'm in Canada, which is one party consent, so it'd be a perfect deflection to any potential #metoo's. Thoughts?
/r/TheRedPill14/05/18 12:45 AM
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“You know we’re not going to have sex right? Because I’m on my period.” My response: “Good, cause I’m wearing my chastity belt anyway.” I actually cracked up while reading this in the breakroom at work. This is definitely my new favorite shit test response
/r/TheRedPill13/05/18 10:21 PM
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Yes, but along with actionable advice to not try too much. When using stages or steps to track progress you can easily obsess and lose the plot.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/18 10:41 PM
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True game is the absence of game. True frame is the absence of frame. You can't truly have any quality without internalizing it so much that you're not even aware of it. When a man first learns of gaming women, he invests all of his time into thinking about it. He obsesses over it in order to learn, and it's always in the forefront of his mind. When a man finally becomes Alpha, it's when he no longer thinks about gaming women, but does so because it is who he is. To give a personal example, not …
/r/TheRedPill07/05/18 06:21 PM
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"I don't conquer, I submit" - Casanova Game is considered dominant because social context and our upbringings tell us that men need to make the move, and women gatekeep. And when the guy makes the move he is dominant. So when he and the women get in bed together she expects him to continue being dominant because that's what she was attracted to in the first place. So asking if he can switch between dominant and submissive is a risky idea (women can get away with acting bitchy then being subs in …
/r/seduction17/04/18 09:41 PM
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Pulling from daygame is harder, yes. But if the girl is down to be pulled after a movie she can be certainly be pulled during the day. You might actually have an easier time pulling her then than getting that second date in the same week. I'd suggest a coffee date plus something extra afterwards (a walk, checking out nearby art or museums, escalating to drinks or food), then going for a pull (it's easy to take her to listen to music or watch Netflix at your place after you've already been moving…
/r/seduction16/04/18 08:07 AM
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I'll give 3 options and let you choose which works best for you. Coffee Date: Take her out for coffee, chat for a bit, then after 30min or so you want to go somewhere else so it doesn't get stale (go for a walk if you have nothing planned). Be flirtatious during coffee, but do most physical escalation at the second venue (most of the reason guys think coffee dates are boring is because they spend 4 hours at the coffee shop instead of escalating) Movie Date: Take her out for a movie, flirt a bit …
/r/seduction15/04/18 08:55 PM
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Your utmost priority at a house party should be having fun. That's the point of the house party. So get there, talk to whoever, and just don't give a fuck. No one will judge you unless you do something stupid enough to send you to the hospital/get posted to holdmybeer. Everyone's just there to let loose, so you should focus on doing that. As for meeting girls, a house party is the easiest place to do it. If you see a girl you like, just look at her, approach, and start talking. Girls there will …
/r/seduction15/04/18 08:44 PM
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Looks like I found a prime example of Denial What problems do creeps like me create, if I might ask? I'm not going to deny that there are problem men in the world, but I (and I would assume people like me) actively seek to improve ourselves, that is the main goal. Working out, gaining social and dating skills, and building confidence is all constructive. I don't see how it could be considered detrimental in anyway. And if you're questioning my treatment of women, I explicitly stated in my post I…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/18 08:27 AM
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Don't mean to assume but I'd think that would be because you had no bad experience like divorce or a girl cheating to throw you into a rage deep enough that you'd find TRP the hard way
/r/TheRedPill09/04/18 08:21 AM
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Well said. I would say both the stages you describe would still be extensions of 1 and 5. Because the Red Lightning would be the instigating event, not a stage of discovery you'd go on after (the same as how the instigating grief is not part of the five stages of grief). And mastery sounds just like the end goal of acceptance as I described it at the end. It's just living life with TRP and finally achieving a form of self-satisfiction. The Greeks called it eudaimonia, or a sort of "lifelong pros…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/18 05:29 AM
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Care to elaborate the contents of these stages? Since I think they're already covered in stages 1 & 5. That is, unless this is a joke and I'm not aware
/r/TheRedPill09/04/18 04:13 AM
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Aside from the "virgin as an insult" rant in another comment that reeks of Incel behaviour, I mostly agree with this post. I agree that if you think seduction is about finding "The One" then you've misunderstood the entire idea. Go sit in the corner, read No More Mr. Nice Guy, and think about what you've done. However, asking questions is valuable. If you fail with a girl or think you will and don't know what you did wrong or could have done right, you're not improving. The definition of insanit…
/r/seduction28/03/18 08:03 PM
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Post-sex is the easiest time for you to slip back into beta behaviour. Not only did you just release a fuckton of endorphins, causing you to be too comfortable and open, but after sex is finished there's only blue pill behavior to exhibit unless you kick the girl out of bed. You've already gotten the sex, so anything past that is just showing beta qualities. I remember resisting saying "I love you" the first times I had finished having sex, since my blue pill behaviours were so strong. Now I'll …
/r/TheRedPill26/03/18 05:26 PM
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I honestly appreciate the lengths you are going to write a detailed and scientific post defending fat, unhealthy people. You know what fat as fuck animal you do see? Hippos. Seals. Whales. Huge fat stores in all those animals. And yet you take offense to me calling fat people whales when it's a perfectly fine analogy to use to describe someone with stores of fat. Do you think humans should be fat like hippos? Because you say all animals are driven to become obese, so I honestly wonder if you thi…
/r/seduction26/03/18 02:52 PM
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You aren’t meant to be healthy, just as you aren’t meant to be a teacher or an athlete. You can be a teacher, or an athlete, and you can be healthy. No meaning or purpose or drive. No, you aren't meant to pursue being healthy as a purpose or a drive. It's meant to be the natural state of being as a human. By being unhealthy, whether fat or skinny, you are straying away from the natural state of man. No one would look at an obese lion and think it's normal, and likewise no one should look at an o…
/r/seduction26/03/18 08:42 AM
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Unnecessary? Yes. Does it illustrate my point? Yes.
/r/seduction25/03/18 10:45 PM
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I think saying you can't get laid is like a fat chick saying she can't lose weight. When one of those blue-haired #BigIsBeautiful whales starts going off about how everyone must accept her being 70% lard instead of using her willpower to stop eating cheeseburgers, I'd think most people would laugh. It's her problem she's fat, no one else's. And it's impossible for it to be impossible to lose weight. Humans are meant to be healthy, not overweight, and any excuse on how it's "impossible" is just e…
/r/seduction25/03/18 09:02 PM
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Sounds like you need therapy if the thought of sex with a woman scares you that much
/r/seduction23/03/18 06:46 PM
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Not sure if this is Pook-esque childlike wisdom or some dumb rhymes you came up with when you were high. I'll settle on a bit of both
/r/TheRedPill19/03/18 07:51 PM
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This Reddit post brought to you by: Meth. Not Even Once
/r/TheRedPill16/03/18 07:49 PM
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Good post. As someone who initially crammed information in my head, I can still recite every PUA terminology and maneuver off the top of my head, but I would never approach and didn't have any life experience to use the information with. As much as reading tutorials and watching RSD videos teaches you, actually going out and talking to girls teaches you 1000x more. Why do you think bootcamps cost hundreds of dollars when all they do is take you out for a night? Because experience is valuable and…
/r/seduction11/03/18 02:53 AM
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The human brain is weird with detecting eye contact. Often times you'll swear someone is looking at you because they look in your general direction, and your brain interpolates that to "They're checking me out". It goes back to our caveman days of detecting predators. If all you see is in your peripheral, that doesn't mean anything. If you look directly at them and they're checking you out or they look away, then you know they are, and I'd highly suggest approaching and calling them out for it (…
/r/seduction10/03/18 10:08 PM
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Exactly this. All most people need to do (me included) is keep track and be accountable for a bad diet. Nothing fancy. Your guilt does most of the work for you. In my personal case I've used keto to drop 30lbs, but I still need to work harder on increasing my willpower and discipline in order to stick with it and not relapse.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 02:50 AM
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And you can cut them open and live inside them if you get stuck in a blizzard on Hoth
/r/TheRedPill08/03/18 02:42 AM
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Moral of the story: don't be fat. Fuck. But seriously, being fat has no upsides. Fat people are just too lazy to fulfill the basic requirements to be a healthy person: Diet and Exercise. I would know because I've been fat my entire life.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/18 10:58 PM
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Something that stuck with me from the book The Game by Neil Strauss is the quote (I'm paraphrasing here) "pickup artists do whatever everyone else doesn't". Now obviously this doesn't just apply to pickup artists, but interesting people in general. In a nightclub setting, where everyone is putting on this fake persona and lying through their teeth to act cool, the guy who acts honestly is different. And girls are attracted to that guy because of it. They see that he doesn't play by the rules eve…
/r/seduction03/03/18 10:04 PM
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"The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep"
/r/TheRedPill03/03/18 09:36 PM
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Some high school girls are over 18. If they tell you they're in high school, you do the following: You: "No way! You look like you're 25! How old are you?" Her: (Either above or below 18) You: (if below 18) "Wow, when I was your age I did not look that old. Anyway, nice talking to you" You: (if above 18) "Wow, so how does an 18/19 year old end up still in high school?"
/r/seduction01/03/18 05:33 PM
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This is definitely an extreme. The next "logical step" would be to not talk to her at all. After all: Every time you entertain such drivel, you are essentially increasing the chances of fucking up the frame the more you interact. Simple statistics. So just never talk to girls! You can't fuck up the frame if you never interact! Alternatively, don't text back to bullshit, just like you wouldn't respond in real life to it. If she's genuinely asking a question though, respond to it like a normal hum…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/18 05:26 PM
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I trust it doesn't. If you want to sleep with girls in different countries, you need to adapt to different cultures. Same with absolutely every other social skill
/r/seduction01/03/18 04:32 PM
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What do you mean by "invested in himself" if things like education and muscles fall into "circumstances" category? You have to understand that investing and improving are two different things. Improving seeks to make something better, investing is simply caring more about something. Investing leads to improving, as if you care for something you want to make it better, but they are different things. By being invested, he isn't trying to gain something (muscles, education, etc), he is trying to ca…
/r/seduction01/03/18 07:31 AM
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To go in order: Self improvement's goal is not to get a college degree or a good job, or to even be outwardly successful. That's not improving yourself, it's improving your circumstances. Improving yourself involves becoming a better person. The part of being a better person that attracts women is high confidence and being valuable to yourself. It doesn't matter what your value to society is (job, education, etc), it just matters what you think of yourself. This is why Mark got pussy whereas cla…
/r/seduction01/03/18 06:11 AM
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Just to try explain points 1 & 2, "investing" doesn't mean that money and status get you women. Seeing yourself as valuable is what attracts women. This is what he means as "non-needy", being able to independently love yourself regardless of outside stimuli. By investing, you are increasing your self-worth. Getting money and status helps with that (a millionaire doesn't stress over money like a normal person would), but if you don't have the right mindset it won't do anything for you. So a broke…
/r/seduction01/03/18 12:45 AM
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cool.
/r/seduction28/02/18 06:21 AM
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Saying you can't seduce girls is like saying "I can't make money" in that it's vague and doesn't have a direct answer. How have you been trying to do it? In what ways do you think you're failing? Yes you might be attractive, but if Tom Cruise walked into a bar and kept completely to himself, he wouldn't get laid either. Read the sidebar and the top posts, figure out what you're doing right and wrong, how to improve upon it, and then come for answers if you're still stuck.
/r/seduction24/02/18 11:17 PM
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Make sure you're comfortable together (kino, deep convo, IOIs, etc.), then wait for a lull in conversation and tell her about something cool you want to show her (other than your dick). E.g. "It's getting pretty dull here. Let's go listen to music together"
/r/seduction24/02/18 08:48 PM
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The way I'd say is best is to find whatever goal you're going for (in this case probably getting a number), and detailing all the steps involved. So something like: Approach, Ask a Question, Compliment, Tease, Hold a Conversation, Ask for a Number (to simplify it to the base steps. Add more for whatever you're currently uncomfortable doing) And then start at approaching, do that for a week or two until you're comfortable just saying hello to a girl with no follow up, then ask a question (could e…
/r/seduction24/02/18 08:45 PM
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Don't ask yourself which is better, because they both obviously work. Ask yourself which works better for you. Manson teaches Inner Game and being natural in a way that most guys can understand. RSD teaches Inner Game and being natural in a different, yet still correct way that most guys can understand. They teach different methods for achieving the same result. The only way you can find which is better is by following both and sticking with whichever you are most comfortable and good with. So i…
/r/seduction24/02/18 08:05 PM
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Work out. A six pack goes a long way. Others are to get a haircut and wear nice clothes. Good looks make it easier to approach, but unless you're top 10, you're still going to have to have confidence and charisma
/r/seduction24/02/18 03:41 AM
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Looks matter to women as much as they do to men. If you saw a smoking hot 10 at a bar, you'd be attracted to her even if her personality wasn't the best, so long as she didn't seem too weird. An average 6 might be attractive, but her personality and non-physical traits matter much more to you liking her. A 2 probably won't be attractive even if she has a stellar personality. As a guy, if you're attractive it acts as a crutch to picking up girls, but even still they don't automatically fuck you i…
/r/seduction24/02/18 01:36 AM
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Same. You try to be friends with the other girl more than you try to pick up the target (while still conveying attraction to the target). If the obstacle girl is still giving shit, you can act surprised and pull the target away. If the obstacle becomes your friend (usually the case), she'll even help you get the target. I believe RSDMadison and RSDMax did a video together on this exact situation, but I can't remember which one. They go over this situation in more depth than I do.
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:04 PM
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You deal with him the same way you deal with a bitchy girl. Agree & Amplify his shit tests Ignore insults as if he said something positive Reverse Pressure when he asks a demeaning question Plus, you can pull a technique from The Game (more specifically RSDTyler, but I only read about it in The Game) called AMOGing, where you point out the shit he's doing to the group. E.g. AMOG: Says a passive aggressive insult You: to the group "Excuse him, he's just insulting me because he's insecure about hi…
/r/seduction22/02/18 08:59 PM
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Mystery Method, man. Become friends with the group, with no open intentions for pickup, even excluding the target so she feels left out. Then once you've got the group's trust, you work on the girl. It's simple (not particularly easy, but simple).
/r/seduction22/02/18 08:53 PM
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I don't bother. I'll usually filter by location as close as possible (2km), only moving further out when I run out of people to swipe on. After about 20km I just reset. Mind you I live on a college campus, so cute 18yr olds literally come to me, but even if I didn't live in a populated area anything past 20km is a hassle.
/r/seduction22/02/18 08:51 PM
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When in reality now that I'm in college I'm honestly finding out that even the innocent looking ones are all giant hoes that want dick I'd highly recommend Book of Pook. It's a bit extreme in terms of this way of thinking, but it covers the same topic pretty in-depth
/r/seduction21/02/18 01:23 AM
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I will agree with most of what you said here, though it really does sound like you were a subscriber of Incels at one point (or still are). My view has always been that Looks, Game, Money, and Status are like skills in a video game. You can spend points (time & effort) increasing one a lot, or many a little. And every woman has a skillcheck you need to pass with a certain amount of each skill to get her in bed. So you can increase one of these skills to the top percentile of people and get laid …
/r/TheRedPill18/02/18 11:34 PM
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Good for you! First steps are hard, but you definitely did better than my first time. As for the number, if a girl asks for your number that's usually a good sign, but usually I'll just say "Why don't we exchange numbers so I know who's texting me?" And hand her my phone. Even just handing her your phone after she asks will get her number. The only time it won't work is if she's asking for your number to blow you off, but then you've confirmed a rejection instead of wondering if she'll text.
/r/seduction16/02/18 08:21 AM
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If they don't already know about each other, just pursue them both separately. Hook up with the apartment chick and make moves on the other one. If one sees you with the other one, act normal. Girls are attracted to guys who get girls. If one sees you with the other all it'll do is build a playboy image of you in their head. That's good. I one confronts you about it, just act like it's normal for you to hang out with hot girls. Just don't make it seem like you'll be exclusive with them, and if t…
/r/seduction16/02/18 08:13 AM
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Showing clear masculine behaviour excites women Showing clear feminine behaviour excite men That's how biology works Just like how I'd get turned on if a women gave me puppy dog eyes and asked me to protect her, she'd get turned on if I led the way and told her she's safe. Being assertive, non-needy, and in control are all masculine traits, so by having them, girls are attracted.
/r/seduction16/02/18 04:43 AM
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Some women are better at LTRs and some women are better at ONSs. It's extremely difficult to turn a club girl into a faithful wife as opposed to a wholesome librarian-type. But even that librarian-type wants to fool around and have fun like the club girl. It's just that her upbringing had suppressed her from doing so. And on the other side of the coin, almost every girl has some innate ability to settle down and raise a family, because biologically that's where they excel. So yes, some girls wil…
/r/seduction16/02/18 12:10 AM
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Crack cocaine
/r/seduction15/02/18 01:10 AM
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Compliments, teases, and kino. These are the three most common and easiest ways to get out of LJBF territory and into man-to-woman. Compliments tell the girl you like her (obviously). Generally you don't want to validate her, but state that you're attracted. A general format is: "I like your [physical feature/style/personality trait], it makes you look [adjective (usually 'cute')]." Teases don't let her know directly that you like her, but rather that you're considering it and she needs to prove…
/r/seduction14/02/18 08:08 PM
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Like /u/GameandGains is saying, you want to plan the date with her and only get the number as a formality. The best text game is not texting. That's how they did it before cell phones, and a girl is much more willing to plan a date in person ,where you can feel out her reaction, rather than over the phone where flaking has no consequence. The only time you should be getting the number without the date is in quick sets, like on the bus or stopping a girl walking to class/work/whatever. In that ca…
/r/seduction14/02/18 05:02 PM
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Specific recommendations are desired. So you want to go to a coffee shop in downtown called Beaner's. Ask for a triple expresso late, with an extra straw. The barista will give you a small pink envelope. DO NOT open it until you're in a private place. When you're secluded, read and memorize the coordinates on the note inside, and then burn it and the envelope. Follow those coordinates to a park bench somewhere in the city. Exactly 10 minutes after sitting down, a man in a trenchcoat will sit nex…
/r/seduction13/02/18 05:18 PM
3

I told a girl about your "game game" and got laid, so I guess I have game game game
/r/seduction13/02/18 02:39 PM
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Well you have two options: Never have sex in your life Get over AA So if you don't want to get over it, you don't have to. Just know you're never getting laid again. On the other hand, you can get over your fears and approach, approach, approach. Some common tips are to count to 3 and approach, eliminating your bad thoughts. Another one is to think of the worst possible rejection you could get from a girl. You go up and say hi and she just laughs at you. So bad that everyone in the venue is laug…
/r/seduction13/02/18 02:37 PM
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If it's a girl, DON'T BE HER TEXT BUDDY. Say hi, ask about her day, then make plans to meet. Nothing more. If you're acquainted, skip the hi. If you're texting your friends, just text whatever. They're your friends for a reason, you don't need to impress them. Ask questions if you want, talk about your day if you want, send memes or talk gossip if it suits your fancy. There's no rules to texting. Just text whatever pops into your head and bullshit away with them
/r/seduction13/02/18 02:05 AM
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Pretty much. They blame women and genetics for their problems instead of themselves, which gives them a convenient excuse to never try
/r/askTRP12/02/18 08:17 PM
1

An old ex of mine suggested I put up a Confederate flag up to be "funny" (don't stick your dick in crazy). Decided against it when my black roommate overhead the conversation
/r/askTRP12/02/18 06:58 PM
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Red Pill: The way the world is. Women are women and act how they'll act. Men have to be men to deal with this. Blue Pill: Women are special snowflakes that need to be taken care of, and men should be underneath them. Basically disregards human nature to argue that women are special. Purple Pill (Red + Blue = Purple): A mixture of the two ideologies. Women should be women and men should be men, but there's exceptions somehow. Usually comes from wanting to believe the Red Pill, but picking and cho…
/r/askTRP12/02/18 06:56 PM
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High Energy = RSDTyler/Russel Brand type. Constantly talking with a carefree energy and being charismatic by their explosive personalities. They can talk forever and seem constantly enthused. Low Energy = RSDTodd (Todd Valentine)/Roosh V. They speak slowly and calmly, and only talk with whatever's necessary to say. They come off as giving as little attention as possible, and are charismatic by their lack of investment. Their baseline is much lower than a high energy person, but they manage to st…
/r/seduction12/02/18 05:59 AM
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"Then it goes great with my personality" shit eating grin
/r/seduction12/02/18 12:26 AM
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And how exactly is picking someone to be with with dissimilar to hiring an employee? You're looking for the best option you can possibly get, and testing to make sure they don't screw you over. The only difference is an employee works with the company to improve it, and a girl works with you to improve you. Obviously everyone's going to want a different girl who fits their personal preference, but the criteria you might judge her on is going to fit within those categories. And if the Ly Star doe…
/r/seduction11/02/18 03:48 AM
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If a girl's saying "We're not sleeping together" or something like that, I'll just agree and keep doing whatever I'm doing. If they're going along with it physically it's just her justifying sleeping with you, basically saying you're the initiator. Usually then I'll say something like "You like that, you slut?" and they'll whimper yes. And that's consent. That "I don't give consent" line is a major red flag though. At that point I'd just say "I'd like your consent or for you to leave" since you …
/r/TheRedPill11/02/18 02:31 AM
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I think you have to realize that pickup is an effect, not the cause of change in sexual strategy. Until about WWI, most countries didn't view women as equals to men, so before then getting a woman was pretty much all up to the man and the woman's father. After WWII, women were rising in power up to the ranks of men, and finally were starting to be seen as equal in rights. But still men were dominant and got women because of it (See the stereotypes in the 40's and 50's for tough guys to slap wome…
/r/seduction10/02/18 11:57 PM
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From an old Reddit post that stuck with me: The Ly Star of Attraction. Does she mentally stimulate me? (Personality, intelligence, wit) Is she physically appealing? (Face, bodily features, healthy, 1-10 scale) Is she sexually stimulating? (She has sexual skills / stamina. I.E. is not a starfish. She is of my personal "type" or preference) Does she stimulate me spiritually? (Does she give the illusion of a higher connection? Does she give my soul romantic experiences? Am I able to feel a divine, …
/r/seduction10/02/18 11:02 PM
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That's creepy. Only ask in person or if she gives her Facebook. Anything more than that shows that you've stalked her online
/r/seduction10/02/18 10:48 PM
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DON'T do it over social media. That's a red flag to her that you are too shy to do it in person. Next time you see her, if she's alone, you go up and talk to her. No hesitation. Ask her what she's doing later and get her number. If she's with friends, talk to the group about class or listen and join in on whatever they're talking about, then make jokes and be friendly with them. After a bit, just ask the girl what she's doing later (even if it's right in front of her friends. You have nothing to…
/r/seduction10/02/18 10:46 PM
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Soulmates don't exist. You won't find the love of your life, you'll have to make her. After doing pickup for so long you'll be dissolutioned with women, as a lot of us are. And that's because the superficial things that you fell in love with before you knew any better reveal themselves as exactly that, superficial. If you want to find a girl to marry or settle down with, you won't just find her out in the wild. Women in the wild only rely on those superficial charms because they're so powerful. …
/r/seduction10/02/18 10:41 PM
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Well I don't go on movie dates unless I'm in a LTR. If a girl suggests it as the only option, I just say "That doesn't work for me" and make plans for some other time. Especially when the excuse is "I'm not feeling well" (as in she's feeling good enough to go out but not to touch or talk to you. Bullshit). Since you seem to be stuck in this situation though, I'd suggest going early and getting something to eat beforehand, and flirting with her and initiating kino there. Then once you've introduc…
/r/seduction10/02/18 09:50 PM
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I remember reading this tip before in a book (possibly How to Make Friends and Influence People, though not 100% sure) Basically, we as humans use 'but' so much that when it's said, we know to immediately discredit what someone said and prepare for negativity. So by removing it, you remove a subconscious trigger word and make them have to actually process what you said.
/r/seduction09/02/18 08:34 PM
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Two weeks to ask her out is fine. Really anything past a week is good. I'd say in one, maybe one and a half week, just shoot out something like "I'm going to X at Y today, you can come if you'd like", since that appears less invested and suggests she was an afterthought. Just make sure you're getting other numbers and not putting eggs in one proverbial basket
/r/seduction09/02/18 08:26 PM
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She really is in experienced as I have found all her social media there seems to be hardly any male influence anywhere and she definetly is shy This sounds like you're getting into stalker territory. Next time you see her, and I mean NEXT TIME, you ask her out (I'd suggest coffee or food, something relaxed). And don't even look to her reactions. Even if she clams up and gets flustered, you stay calm and continue talking and flirting. You have nothing to be afraid of. And on that date, you keep g…
/r/seduction09/02/18 07:13 PM
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Np :) Then make plans again next week. Just make sure you don't let her blow you off completely. An exam next month doesn't sound nearly urgent enough to me to warrant having no free time whatsoever. Treat the long text the same as if she just said "I'm sorry, I can't." and move on. Alternatively, if you want to put pressure on her, you can do it by giving her control. Something like: Well text me when you're free and I'll see if I can make it. Don't leave me waiting or I might forget you though…
/r/seduction09/02/18 07:04 PM
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If she's not ignoring you, leaving, or telling you to leave she's still interested. Just act as if she's giving you positive signals unless she flat out rejects you. Shy girls still like you and are just as interested, they just don't show it. The only thing keeping you from getting her is misreading and hyper-analyzing her signals, thinking they're not positive ones. This combined with the obvious green lights you're giving means you need to start escalating ASAP.
/r/seduction09/02/18 06:04 PM
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Sounds like he's too far gone for someone else to help him. Just let him figure himself out or get drowned in the deep blue(pill) sea of his own making
/r/TheRedPill09/02/18 05:57 PM
1

Therapy first and foremost. Read No More Mr. Nice Guy and Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck to help along the way.
/r/seduction09/02/18 05:52 PM
1

Go to busy streets/malls/events to game. Go to the grocery store to buy groceries. If you don't approach people while gaming, that's AA. If you don't approach while grocery shopping, you're jusy like every other person there. Just go up and talk to girls if you want, but remember the reason you went there wasn't to meet girls in the first place. People that are great at public speaking would be nervous to start monologuing in the aisles just the same. Not because they're bad at giving speeches, …
/r/seduction09/02/18 05:09 PM
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Erections can be accidental. Erections around girls aren't. Don't be embarrassed by it, be happy that your body is telling you this girl is attractive (at least to you). As for showing or hiding it, it depends on the girl. If I've gotten intimate with the girl I'll often tell her "you must be doing something right, because I'm at half mast" and maybe have her touch it for effect. If the girl isn't already at that point (usually it's the point where I know I'm taking her home, so I play around an…
/r/seduction09/02/18 04:22 PM
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"I don't have a car, but I have a sick racecar bed we could take out for a spin"
/r/seduction08/02/18 10:32 PM
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Short Asnwer: DON'T TEASE IN THE FIRST PLACE No matter what you do there's always a big chance it'll come across the wrong way. Just use texting to set up logistics for the next date/hang out. Text doesn't even come close to delivering a joke properly because it lacks human interaction, which is nuanced because of facial expressions/tone of voice/timing (For example, listen to any jokes that Siri or Alexa might tell. They're terrible) The only time it's really acceptable to text playfully is if …
/r/seduction08/02/18 10:20 PM
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I agree with that. Going into a 20 minute conversation about working out is boring. But just saying how many times you go to the gym or a quick story about working out helps to ease the conversation. I'm not saying you should barge in with how many deadlifts you do, but if someone mentions working out, it's natural for the conversation to be able to go that way. If it's just a "hey, you look nice", then there's no reason to bring up working out. I'm saying the stigma around talking about it in g…
/r/seduction08/02/18 09:18 AM
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Yes but if it didn't change your physical appearance and make you look better it wouldn't have mass appeal. Think of how many people meditate compared to how many go to the gym. Both are about discipline, but one is much more popular because there's physical results. I agree that discipline is important and necessary, but it's not the reason most work out for, it's just a benefit that comes along with it for them.
/r/seduction08/02/18 08:21 AM
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Obviously droning on about working out is boring. Droning on about anything is boring. And working out isn't anything more than repetition, which isn't exciting to explain. But if you've got muscles and look good for your efforts, you have every right to tell people that and not be ashamed.
/r/seduction08/02/18 08:15 AM
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Again, this isn't a big deal. Just continue with asking out the other twin. If she's down, you're good. If not, move on. If you're referring to "both" in a sexual manner you should've continued that in text, but it sounds like you tried to be friends with them instead. Just keep it light, and see where the other twin goes.
/r/seduction08/02/18 06:53 AM
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She knew that I was there for a while, so I just acknowledged it instead of feigning that I "just noticed her". Also it's a good way to show intent without directly complimenting her (she knew I was asking her out even though our conversation was rather platonic because of that single line)
/r/seduction08/02/18 06:41 AM
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I mean either you're interested in just one and she's going to feel less likely to accept in front of her sister, or you're interested in both and by asking out one you've effectively cut yourself off from the other one. There's really no positives to group chat in my opinion
/r/seduction08/02/18 06:31 AM
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I'd wait a couple days to let the group chat calm or die down, then initiate a 1 on 1. Just because if you're in an active group chat and you start a private message she'll feel something's up, as opposed to a more natural conversation. If the texts are fairly recent I might still ask the other girls plans. But just don't overthink this. You're a man, you like women. Then know this and you shouldn't feel ashamed for it. Do whatever feels better, not what an armchair seducer tells you
/r/seduction08/02/18 05:21 AM
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Just ask her out. If you're thinking of a way to transition the conversation to naturally ask her out, that's needy and you're overthinking it. Just ask what she's doing this weekend and make plans with her. No transitioning or planning required
/r/seduction08/02/18 05:11 AM
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Act like nothing happened, because it sounds like nothing did. Just ask the other girl her plans, like "...and what are you doing, Girl 2?", as if you're just genuinely curious. If she brings it up, just say that asking for plans isn't a bad thing (because it isn't) and wait a week, then re-engage. Also, pro-tip: Don't ask girls out over group chat. Text them individually. Don't needlessly give yourself an audience for something like that, especially where other girls you could potentially ask o…
/r/seduction08/02/18 04:42 AM
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As everyone else had pointed out, it means a yes if she has nothing else to do, and no if something better comes up. It's a girl's way of seeming aloof and not to interested to not seem needy, same as guys. Usually I'll just respond with "Alright, see you at [time] on [day]" and see what she says. If she was giving a vague yes she'll usually confirm after that. If not, I treat it as a flake in the making
/r/seduction08/02/18 04:35 AM
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Showing off is generally bad and talking about yourself working out seems a really bad idea to me What about this is bad? The only reason we're told not to be proud of ourselves is because we've been taught you have to be "modest" by the same people who taught us to worship women. If you're working out and look good, you should be taking compliments. That's why people work out in the first place! What woman will love you if you don't love yourself? Just take the compliment and talk about working…
/r/seduction08/02/18 04:30 AM
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Former AFC here.My upbringing was secluded. I'm an only child, my parents were overprotective and didn't force me to go outside, and I just became a recluse. Read books and played video games instead of going out. I was bullied in school because of my weight, and believed no one could love me because of it. Never had bad experiences with girls, but never had positive ones either so I just didn't know how to talk to them (didn't even kiss a girl until I was 18) Oneitis was huge in my life. I pret…
/r/seduction07/02/18 05:35 PM
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"Is that a question or an offer?"
/r/seduction07/02/18 05:21 PM
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Laws of Text Game Only text for logistics. Don't make jokes, don't tease her, dont do anything that a robot wouldn't do. Jokes or teasing over text will come off differently than you intended every time. Do all the fun stuff in-person Open a conversation with a simple question before transitioning to logistics. It's lighter and easier to respond to. "Hey, how was your weekend?", "Yo, how was work?", "Hey, how's it going?" are all good. She can answer the question, then you plan a date. No bullsh…
/r/seduction07/02/18 04:31 AM
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You: "What, do I have something on my face?" point to cheek like you spilled food on it Her: "Blah blah you have acne (continues to shit test)" You: "Ohh, I shoved my head in a beehive earlier. Wanted to see what it felt like" shrug and smirk
/r/seduction06/02/18 03:39 PM
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Nice self promotion under the thin guise of terrible pickup tips, my dude What? Women like tall, rich, handsome guys that make them feel good? Wow! Who would've thought. What? You want me to buy your shitty tee shirts? Get the fuck out.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/18 11:54 PM
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Just go out with girls you think you like, see what about them you don't, and keep note. I personally dislike when they can't take a joke, because I'm very sarcastic and my sense of humor is pretty wild (My most recent ex got mad at me for going into Victoria's Secret and asking the ladies there if the bras would fit me) I also just generally dislike when they become wet blankets in any way. Like they expect me to be the dancing monkey to entertain while all they do is give halfhearted head. I l…
/r/seduction05/02/18 05:38 PM
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The top posts of TRP (I literally just read every single one going down as far as I could go) RSDMax Manifesto (long vid but it breaks it down simply for social retards like the old me) Top posts of the seduction sub (again, I indiscriminately read them all) Enough RSDTyler videos to effectively brainwash myself (doesn't matter which ones. It's more for a confidence boost than practical advice) I read The Game, Models, No More Mr. Nice Guy, How to Win Friend and Influence People, The Rational Ma…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/18 03:48 PM
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Okay, this is a bad case of oneitis (and I wrote a novel on this sub about oneitis) Here are some things you need to understand: You're not getting her back. Ever. The second you try to get her back again is the second you step into her frame. Going forward, don't apologize. If a girl gets butthurt you say "Damn. Where I'm from that's a compliment" and nothing more. In a couple days you re-engage when she gets over it. There's no such thing as a "top tier plate". Yes, some plates will be better …
/r/TheRedPill05/02/18 06:31 AM
2

Like what, if you don't mind?
/r/TheRedPill05/02/18 03:30 AM
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First of all, if you're together alone watching Netflix, it's assumed you're going to make out and have sex. With that said I'll list the steps I follow to go from movie watching to sex. First off, sit close to her when watching the movie. Let her sit down first and sit close to her, but not smooshed up against her. If she sits down after you and you're far enough apart that touching is uncomfortable, get up for a drink or to use the bathroom/wash up and sit down closer. Next, you want to wait a…
/r/seduction05/02/18 02:41 AM
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People don't call fat people fat to their faces. It's why subs like fatpeoplehate existed. The only time they'll let you know you had a flaw is when you lose it, because they're not afraid of hurting your feelings anymore
/r/TheRedPill04/02/18 09:11 PM
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U WANT SUM FUK?
/r/seduction04/02/18 09:00 PM
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They know they have a secure relationship so they can risk going after you without repercussion. So they flirt with you to get attention and validation of their beauty where they can't get it in an LTR, then if you make moves they have the defense that they're taken and you're in the wrong. That being said, you can still absolutely sleep with these women. I don't 100% advocate it, but it's certainly possible. Just be very direct, don't give her that validation she's looking for, and if she ever …
/r/seduction04/02/18 08:59 PM
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That's what Inner Game is. It's slow and small changes. It's also why Outer Game is preached so much, because it's a quick fix and easier to learn. The only way you can improve Inner Game is by improving yourself physically, mentally, and emotionally. The thing that makes it very difficult to some and easier to others is it has a massive snowball effect. If you've had no positive feedback or drive to improve your whole life (like a massive amount of guys do), it'll be a bitch to just kick into g…
/r/seduction04/02/18 07:24 AM
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I'll agree that Jordan Peterson has BP tendencies. He advocates marriage and seems very beta when he talks about relationships. But his main tenets are improving yourself, having a positive self-image, standing up against radical feminism, and being your own man. He has many times discussed the biological difference between men and women, and he talks about owning up to your masculinity. So funnily enough, he isn't Red Pill because he's strongly against following an ideology and all that it stan…
/r/TheRedPill04/02/18 06:56 AM
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You might be doing escalation moves, but it doesn't sound like you're actually escalating. Escalating means pushing the envelope. It means that you're moving forward to a specific goal (Sex in most cases). If you don't have a goal in mind, you can't escalate because there's nothing you're escalating to. You're trying to climb a mountain without wanting to get to the top. Always be pushing closer to sex. Start with some light touching and teasing, get more sexual with the teasing and touch more i…
/r/seduction04/02/18 06:42 AM
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Game is two parts: Inner Game and Outer Game Outer Game is the classic "game" that is taught. It's the pickup lines and canned material. It's a way for even the most shy guys to come off as valuable and comfortable to a girl without thinking that way about themselves. By saying these specific, well-crafted lines, you're saying what someone who is good with women would say, and thus you're good with women so long as you can hold up the facade. This is what Mystery Method teaches, for example. Inn…
/r/seduction04/02/18 06:36 AM
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Just look around the hotel you want to bring her back to and find any place you can go near there. Food, coffee, a park. Just invite her out to one of those places and take her back after a bit.
/r/seduction04/02/18 02:18 AM
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I did encounter C a couple times. The first wasn't long after getting over her, and we just passed each other in the halls. I ignored her that time. The second time I just saw her in line at a coffee shop. She seemed fine, basically as if nothing had happened between us. We casually chatted, and it was a fun conversation. I didn't pursue anything past that, since I had other girls I was seeing at that point and trying to re-establish a connection would be severely counterproductive It's been les…
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 07:49 PM
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I know. Because height is a magical property that makes it impossible to be socially awkward. Only short people can be disliked /s
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 07:29 PM
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I read dozens of articles and watched a similar amount of videos on escalating alone. If one stood out as the one that helped me the most, it'd be RSDMax's Manifesto. He breaks it down to laymen's terms what to look for and how to do it on an easy to understand level. The video is ridiculously long, so be warned, but I believe there's a table of contents in the description so you can skip around
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 07:48 AM
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Thanks! I think most guys here on this sub have a catalyst story that drives them here. I just decided to write mine down to help myself and others learn from it.
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 06:40 AM
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Well I'm glad you got so much out of my post. The only advice I can suggest to full get over oneitis is to focus on yourself, and give it time. You should only be focusing on achieving goals that are within yourself. Goals that require other people's participation (girls, being liked, etc) are always going to let you down because other people won't be fully committed to helping you we those goals through. Goals where you have complete control (being honest, loving yourself) are only measured wit…
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 03:50 AM
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Todd is solid. RSDMax's Manifesto was my turning point in understanding game, and is very good for beginners. Anything by RSDTyler is incomprehensible gibberish for 30 minutes to 2 hours. RSDJeffy's "Effortless Charisma" video has a special place in my heart, since I love his sense of humor. Really the RSD guys are all I've seen on YouTube. Most anything else is too try hard or awkward to be credible.
/r/seduction03/02/18 12:46 AM
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No. " I replied with, " Guess what ? IDGAF. I think you're cute and would like to get your number. " This, while confident, is too confrontational. It's aggressive. Imagine what you'd say if a salesman approached trying to sell you something, and when you said no they say "IDGAF, give me your number". You'd probably say no or give a fake number too. Something like "Neither would I, my boyfriend's are all at least seven feet!" Is much more playful and gets confidence across without coming off as …
/r/TheRedPill03/02/18 12:40 AM
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All game is better in college. Nightgame at parties is better, cold approach during day is better, and social circle is better. It's a bunch of horny young adults collected in one place, they all wanna get laid. Social circle is by far the most powerful, since if you can get in a frat or a big circle where you have a lot of social proof, you have this giant pool of girls that will want to be a part of that. Girls will wave hi in the halls for you if you're popular enough. Cold approach is better…
/r/seduction02/02/18 08:48 PM
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Make sure the movie isn't one that'll have him on the edge of his seat. Some say to make it one he's seen before, but just as long as it doesn't take his full attention, you're good. You might then want to choose a spot in the very back or in a spot where people can't naturally see you. This is just a personal thing for me since I'm paranoid, just to make sure you're both comfortable getting a little naughty during the movie without fear of being seen/caught. It helps to go to a less crowded the…
/r/seduction02/02/18 08:42 PM
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As long as you can learn from it, it's good to remember. There's no point in beating yourself up though. It took me a while to learn the difference
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 08:06 PM
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I can admit to having the mentality that "I could get any girl if I really tried hard enough", yet never went and tried to get the girl for the longest time. No one wants to admit they can't get the girl because it would hurt their fragile ego, yet you have to in order to learn how. Admitting you don't know something is the first step towards learning it.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 04:57 PM
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Thank you. I will try to condense for posts that don't have as much sentimental value to me, since as much as I might like to write a novel, I need to know that not many are going to read one
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 04:30 PM
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Thanks! And I agree wholeheartedly
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 04:27 PM
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I'd like to think I do have my shit together. But I don't want to congratulate myself for an achievement I didn't earn. I'll feel good when I get a six pack or get a nice job because I can control that. But I can't control my height. So I'll work to better myself as if it's not a natural advantage and I'll be better because of it. The posts talking about my height make it seem like I can just walk up to girls and pull them home because I'm tall, but I can tell you that's not the case. Being tall…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 03:00 PM
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Yeah. I never expected anyone to pat me on the back for making a ridiculously long post. And you're right about the "cool kids" thing. Thinking coolness was the goal was definitely a flaw of mine. "A king who has to tell you he is king is no true king"
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 02:56 PM
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Yeah, I'm lucky I found out early and not after getting married/something drastic like other users here. And even though the post was aimed more at getting girls, I'm using it to try and improve in other areas too
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 02:50 PM
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Just remember to use those memories positively and for improvement. It doesn't help to get stuck in the past
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 02:47 PM
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It's a fact that taller guys are found conventionally more attractive. It's an argument to say that height is more important than confidence and charisma. Just because someone is tall and good looking has no bearing on their success with women if that's all they have going for them. And while a tall guy with charisma and confidence might be the best, if you're not tall there's nothing you can do about that, so why bother whining about it.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 07:10 AM
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The way I've always seen it is that to be an independent, self-driven person, you need to overcome all of the external drives you have. Once you stop working towards a goal controlled by someone else, you can start working solely for your own goals. The problem is that for men the biggest external goal is women. So you need to conquer that goal and get women so that it's not driving you anymore. I'd say it's the biggest step towards fully embracing TRP
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 06:52 AM
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I never understood the height argument. I knew a couple guys who barely broke 5'4 who got different girls every week. To me it just seems like a way to shift the blame from yourself to the uncontrollable force of genetics. I could argue that I have an ugly face or a feminine voice, but I can't control any of that. I'll go my entire life with this face and this voice. So I'll have to work despite them.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 06:46 AM
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I completely agree, but working on yourself to get girls doesn't solve the problem. Working on yourself to work on yourself is what makes you a better person. Even what you're saying, increasing my SMV, is still putting myself through hoops to get pussy. My entire story (I don't blame you if you didn't read the whole thing) is about getting over girls as the prize. And by writing it and posting it online I'm closing that chapter of my life. I'm finally free to do what I want, because girls aren'…
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 05:24 AM
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TL;DR - Rejection's a bitch but regret is worse. Blah blah blah, metaphor here, tangent there. Something something pickup something something text message. In the end it doesn't even matter. Fin
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 05:20 AM
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Doesn't matter if anybody does. It just matters to me that I wrote it
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 05:17 AM
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No, I just type as much as possible to try and trick people into thinking I'm a good writer. It rarely works.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 01:40 AM
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I don't give a flying fuck about a girl's body language before I open her. If she's in a public space and she's not obviously preoccupied with something (I do a lot of campus approaches, so midterms and finals are a bitch), then I'll go up and talk to her. I only care about body language and signs of interest after I start talking to her, because then it's a reflection of her feelings towards me, not towards the world. I talked to a girl yesterday who by all means had terrible body language. She…
/r/seduction31/01/18 08:51 PM
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Talk to everybody you can. Everybody. Old people, guys and girls on campus, classmates, teachers. Compliment people in the halls and chat them up inbetween classes. Then just let the conversation continue longer for girls you're interested in, and ask them out. If you follow this, you'll have more friends than you know what to do with and going out with girls will be natural. This is a powerful method in college because you build massive social proof and get way more opportunities to network, bu…
/r/seduction31/01/18 05:21 PM
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My Rules for a First Date Don't ask any questions that can be assumed from an observation Anytime a girl talks about something, take an opportunity to tell a story of your own instead of making her talk more. It's better to let her respond to a story then a question Avoid asking interview questions (Where are you from? What do you do?) Unless asked first. To get her to ask, tell a story that makes her want to ask it ("Back where I'm from...", "Someone from work did X") Girls don't have specific …
/r/seduction31/01/18 05:14 PM
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Mastering Inner Game There's a big difference between someone who's mastered inner game and someone who's mastered outer game. You can learn lines and blueprints for conversations and get laid (Mystery Method is a prime example), but what makes someone a natural or a fuckboy player is mastering their own mind and being able to internalize game concepts. Someone who's learned outer game can get girls within the specific parameters that he's learned to deal with and inside those parameters he seem…
/r/seduction31/01/18 05:40 AM
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I'd just drop them altogether. Saying wow or cool or crazy is fine to give positive feedback, but if you ever say them so much that it bothers you, it's definitely bothering them and you're giving too much feedback. Don't be the guy nodding and smiling and acting like everything she says is amazing, just look her in the eyes and smile, then talk when she's done/you want to. She knows you think her story is good if you're smiling and holding eye contact (it's the same for girls listening to your …
/r/seduction31/01/18 05:30 AM
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They ran out of material a long time ago. Since then they've just been regurgitating old material and telling you that the previous method of game was wrong, so you should try this new style (It usually rotates between cold approach, social circle, and social media, then back to cold approach). In terms of actual advice, they just go on "motivational" rants to subliminally give you a positive takeaway since they need to pump out content to sell workshops and keep the business afloat. Their YouTu…
/r/seduction29/01/18 08:39 PM
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Mystery Method Models The Game In that order. Mystery Method teaches the process of attracting women (though somewhat outdated it's still useful), Models teaches the inner game/mentality you need to have to correctly apply Mystery's teachings, and The Game is just a good book, but doesn't explicitly teach pickup. I'd also recommend adding: Bang by Roosh (after Mystery Method) No More Mr. Nice Guy (before Models) The Art of Seduction and/or 48 Laws of Power (additional readings more for philosoph…
/r/seduction29/01/18 07:09 PM
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It's how good you look in the clothes, not how good the clothes look. I'm wearing jeans and a different v-neck shirt everyday and college girls have no problem with it. The only "extravagant" articles in my wardrobe are the jackets I rotate through on different occasions: A university branded sweatshirt (for casual-wear, usually in class), a windbreaker with a popped collar (for going out, looks a lot more fun), and a winter jacket (it's fucking cold where I live) As long as they fit you and you…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/18 10:17 PM
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See this is that "mature" attitude that women totally don't find attractive. Do you call women bitches when they don't text back too?
/r/seduction27/01/18 08:41 AM
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"Most guys I know who get laid are dumbasses" ... "I have no reason to judge a bro." How do you pronounce hypocrite again? Being so mature and intelligent I'd assume you'd know
/r/seduction27/01/18 07:23 AM
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"Intelligent/Mature" behavior is almost always accompanied with a lack of social skills and a boring personality. I would know because I was like that for 18 years. The guys you're calling unintelligent/immature (most likely to make yourself feel better than them, but that's just what I used to do) are usually also fun to be around because they lack social constraint, and have the ability to make the girls feel good. Therefore, they get pussy. If a guy is unintelligent/immature and not fun/inter…
/r/seduction27/01/18 12:59 AM
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This. To elaborate on shit tests a little bit (even though there's extensive posts about them),you just want to act as if they don't affect you. If he insults you, take the insult to such extremes that it's funny (this is called agree & amplify). This way he sees you're not affected and you come off as the witty one. E.g. Co-worker: (being sarcastic) "Nice hat you got there bud." Response: "Yeah I picked it out of the dumpster. It still smells so you might wanna stay away." (followed by shit eat…
/r/TheRedPill27/01/18 12:53 AM
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Short answer: YES Girls will cheat under many different circumstances, no matter how much they love their boyfriend. Do I recommend making them? Not unless the boyfriend is clearly not a good guy or the relationship is otherwise doomed. If it's a healthy relationship and you fuck her, you're a bit of a piece of shit. Generally I like to make girl's lives better, not worse, but since I've broken this self-made rule before, I may as well give you some advice: Lead. Be the one that's initiating, so…
/r/seduction27/01/18 12:22 AM
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The key difference between a joke that makes you look like you have low self-esteem (bad) and a joke that makes it look like you're humbling yourself (good) is how true it is. I've told girls in middle school (in my depression phase) that I was "a fat piece of shit" as part of a joke, and they felt bad for me instead of laughing. This is because they thought it was serious with some thinly veiled humor added on (which it was). Today I told a pair of girls "I'm a disappointment. Or, at least, tha…
/r/seduction27/01/18 12:04 AM
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I think if you ask a normal PUA about his perspective on women, he'll tell you he likes them a lot, and is actually quite scared of them. If he wasn't, he'd have no reason to invest into getting them. The people that seem misogynistic and woman-hating are like that most likely because during their youth they had very negative relationships with women, either from their mothers/female relatives or from early female friends not liking them (I was much the same for a long time due to being bullied …
/r/seduction26/01/18 11:48 PM
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Who the fuck praises fucking fatties? I mean, sex feels good 99% of the time as long as both parties are comfortable and willing, but why go for a fat chick when you can bang 7's to 10's?
/r/seduction25/01/18 07:20 PM
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While she's measuring you, you ask about her work and how she feels. Gradually transition to your work (or something you do that you're proud of) and tell a funny story/make her laugh. Then talk about the wedding, joke if she's married herself (this is to test for a boyfriend, but it comes off innocent, especially given the circumstances). If she doesn't bring anyone up, tell her she seems cool and ask her for her number to talk later
/r/seduction24/01/18 11:21 PM
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It scares me how fast you can pull up anti-Jewish propaganda
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 04:54 PM
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Ahh, the old Kevin Spacey trick. Classic /s
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 03:33 PM
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puts on tinfoil hat Oh boy, one random dude said there's gonna be no more white people and there's some successful Jewish people in media, time for an ethnic cleansing! /s
/r/TheRedPill24/01/18 05:16 AM
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...the white man is on the lowest rung of the ladder. ...Jews are to blame ...Remember the Stanford Prison Experiment? ...Perhaps violent revolution is necessary. This post was more inflammatory than the tiki torches in your closet
/r/TheRedPill23/01/18 07:49 PM
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This is why even ugly pickup artists coughRSDTylercough wear nice clothes and make themselves appear friendly as much as possible. Even when the first reaction might not be that they're attractive, they get positive reactions off of being "fun" and this lowers the guard that girls might put up for ugly/creepy guys
/r/TheRedPill23/01/18 07:44 PM
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It sounds like you're too scared to actually talk to her. Unless you're a world class hypnotist, you're not gonna seduce her through eye contact alone. You need to actually go up and talk to her. Either before or after class, go up to her and talk to her. If she made eye contact during a class you can open with that ("Hey, I just noticed you looking at me/checking me out in class and wanted to say hi."). If not, just find something interesting about her that makes you like her and open off that …
/r/seduction21/01/18 10:01 PM
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My 14" dick great sense of humor
/r/seduction21/01/18 07:27 PM
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Its valid that a lot of the posts are about women, but that's because Red Pill is a "counterculture" to most societal norms, and feminism is the biggest societal norm that we are going against. Naturally most posts are going to be about women and dealing with them from a RP perspective because that's the ideology that's been ingrained in our culture the hardest
/r/TheRedPill19/01/18 08:52 PM
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Random and unnecessary use of ALL CAPS aside... If you are the very best at what you do people will acknowledge that. Go ask O.J Simpson Yeah, he was the best at murdering women. Obviously Redpill is not game at all, because when you swallow there red pill completely, women will not be your object of desire A) How do you think you get the women? B) If women are the center of your universe, that's bad game Women, can swallow the Redpill too. It’s their own choice, women like Cleopatra, Margaret T…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/18 08:33 PM
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A cold approach rejection is one thing, but a borderline social circle one would hurt more, lol. This is why things like workplace relations are shunned. "Don't shit where you eat." And don't engage in a relationship that you're not willing to lose. If the fear of rejection is stronger than the pursuit of success, you're bound to fail. If the social circle is worth more to you than sleeping with this girl, then don't try and sleep with her. Otherwise, don't be afraid to potentially lose the soci…
/r/seduction18/01/18 11:20 PM
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Another thing you can do if you don't want to compare hands is check out her jewelry. Rings and bracelets are easy to notice and comment on, then "take a closer look" by touching her hands. Then if her hands are small you can go to compare, if they're big compared to you, you can tease her about it and compare anyway. As for having a reason to touch her, if you use a reason like palm reading or hand size, make sure you always let the touch linger. If you're touching her hands, hold them for a se…
/r/seduction18/01/18 09:10 PM
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For hands I always recommend commenting on how small their hands are. Most girls have much smaller hands than guys and you can hold your hand up to compare. If they seem responsive I'll interlock our fingers and go into a hand hold for a bit. Past hands I'll usually go for a hand on her back or on her leg as we're talking, or around her shoulders if we're being playful. If she responds well, I'll move a little bit closer and go closer to her panty region. If she's neutral I'll back off a bit and…
/r/seduction18/01/18 07:30 PM
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Take her back to your place. You can grab food after. I'd only ever go for food if it's still early and there's clear signs she's not ready yet, or if she declined another offer to go back to yours. That way you're moving around and can "just happen" to stumble to your bedroom after food
/r/seduction17/01/18 04:54 PM
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I'm not saying that girls who lead are actually sluts, but girls have been taught since childhood and have had reinforced daily that they will be if they're forward or don't make the guy work for them. Most girls that I've had serious relationships with have initiated sex or done things that are considered by society to be "slutty", because they valued me more than they value those societal standards. If you and the girl haven't had sex yet the chances that she values you more than those standar…
/r/seduction17/01/18 06:28 AM
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Girls don't want to be sluts. Even sluts don't want to be called sluts (except for some of the trailer trash hoes, but don't touch them unless you're obsessed with getting herpes) Sluts make moves on guys and push interactions forward. So if the girl hits you up or leads the interaction, she's gonna think she's a slut. This is why pickup and every dating advice book ever teaches the guy to lead. If you're leading, the girl won't think she's a slut. Message first, lead her to different venues, be…
/r/seduction17/01/18 03:51 AM
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If there's a time you know you're going to see her in person, ask her out then. If she's not there or you don't see her, ask her out on FB immediately after
/r/seduction16/01/18 02:23 PM
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The number isn't even the goal. It's a milestone. You could get a million numbers and I wouldn't give a shit if you didn't get lays out of any of them. The goal is to get the girl, not her number. You get the number when logistics prevent you from pulling the girl right then and there. That being said, most guys don't even go for a number! How are you gonna have sex with women if you're too afraid to even get a phone number? Unless the girl rejects you or you get struck by lightning you need to …
/r/seduction16/01/18 02:54 AM
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The ones where I ended up getting laid
/r/seduction16/01/18 02:50 AM
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Message her, talk about the party (something like "I got so hungover after", "can you believe ____ happened?", etc. Just something she can relate with) and ask her to hang out. Just ask for coffee or food sometime. Maybe include something like "You seem interesting. I'd like to know more about you", but it's not necessary. You're not a pussy for asking her out on FB. You're a pussy if you don't ask her out at all
/r/seduction16/01/18 01:00 AM
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They don't act superior to others and try and compare themselves to them. They just go out and work
/r/seduction16/01/18 12:52 AM
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Good post, I like your points even though I feel you're only scratching the surface of game archetypes. I think splitting game into categories isn't the best approach for teaching it, since it varies on an individual level more than different distinct "groups" (This is highlighted through your use of examples of specific people to group them. More individual than categorical). Everyone is going to pick up different pieces of different groups and work different styles of game depending on their s…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 08:51 PM
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It's deeply rooted in biology that men are instigators and women are reactors. This was because until fairly recently women had no agenda and men were dominant. The feminist movement used this and manipulated perceptions to push the agenda that women are never at fault, and men are the problem, even when women are now taking action and making decisions (most notably poor one). So they've effectively flipped the script and made themselves the victim even when they're the ones pulling the strings
/r/TheRedPill15/01/18 06:58 PM
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Mark teaches vulnerability. Exposing your flaws and bad decisions to the world and accepting them is being vulnerable
/r/seduction15/01/18 06:44 PM
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If you think banging a prostitute is a bad thing that shouldn't be talked about, you shouldn't have done it. You obviously thought it was a good idea, so live with that decision and don't let it bring you down. I lost my virginity to a 400lb beastwoman who stayed home all day because she looked like a troll. I don't care to hide it though, because I made that decision and have to live with it. You should do the same
/r/seduction15/01/18 05:31 PM
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This.
/r/seduction15/01/18 05:27 PM
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That's inherently a defeatist mindset you're giving yourself. I think it's good to be rejected to lose fear of it, but to go out and seek them and then quit? That seems counterintuitive. If you're going to try and get rejected, go do that and then keep approaching. You'll lose your fear of rejection and be much better at talking to women. Don't get rejected to give up, get rejected to keep going
/r/seduction15/01/18 05:25 PM
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I agree to a point that the friendzone doesn't exist for girls trying to pigeonhole guys. It exists for guys who get rejected and don't see that, so they cling on and try to be nice for sex. If you see a girl sexually and she rejects that, just leave. You gain nothing by continuing the relationship. The misogynist comment, however, is the dumbest shit I've read all day
/r/seduction15/01/18 05:22 PM
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First of all, it's not a regular part of conversation (at least for me) to talk about how you lost your virginity. It's usually with someone/people you're intimate with. If they ask, tell them. Tell the story like a comedian would and play it for laughs, or just be honest and serious.
/r/seduction15/01/18 05:19 PM
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Hygiene: Work out, buy nice clothes, get a haircut, wash your face, look your best Sex Drive: Stop masturbating, stop watching porn at the very least, make it a goal to only ever orgasm through sex with a woman (escorts don't count) Social Skills: Talk to as many people as you can, do more social activities, Get used to talking without a second thought (it doesn't have to be girls, just anyone) Seduction: This topic is more complex than I could condense into a bullet point (ergo the entire subre…
/r/seduction15/01/18 03:39 PM
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Don't. Overthink. This She's just a girl, like any other. Being conservative and religious she's going to be forced into being reserved about sex. With some girls they might break away and secretly be sexual deviants, but it's safer to assume she's not one of them. With this in mind, you need to be casual with her. Don't be too blunt or her reserved sexuality will make her run away. You want to state your interest in her and have her invest, but always keep it light and playful. The last thing s…
/r/seduction14/01/18 09:15 PM
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I'll ask girls out again after a week or so. Most of them will forget about your interactions and be open to going out. You only come across as needy if you seem like you want it to work more than they do. If you're texting them every day, that's needy. If you're still messaging them after a rejection, that's needy. If they're busy and you try again some time later, that's not needy
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:51 PM
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/r/seducton is entirely about having sex. You can't get a girlfriend you're going to have a a great relationship with without following the same process that would make her want to have sex with you. Be forward, state your intentions, escalate with her, and have sex.
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:47 PM
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Well first you have to establish the difference between removing the filter in what you say, and being very direct. You can show lots of interest in a girl and not be saying "Let's have sex" explicitly. Removing the filter from what you say establishes comfort. The reason so many "niceguys" seem creepy and weird is because they're hiding their intentions with a girl with a friendly facade, and once they reveal them they've betrayed the girl's trust. Being forward and not having a filter makes a …
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:43 PM
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If the other person isn't investing in the conversation you should be working to make them invest. Break rapport, spike her emotions, ask questions. It shouldn't be just objective facts being exchanged, it should be an emotional experience of conversation. You don't have to just blurt out random remarks, but make sure that you're not holding back what you say. Girls get very comfortable around guys that say whatever they feel like because they're given a direct line to the real them. Only saying…
/r/seduction14/01/18 06:22 PM
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I'm from USA where in most states the age of consent is 16 You definitely seem like the type to check It's natural for men to be attracted to young girls Yes, pedophiles.
/r/seduction14/01/18 10:01 AM
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I don't know where you're from, but where I'm from that's called pedophilia
/r/seduction14/01/18 09:02 AM
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Probably not, though it won't hurt to try. I'm just wondering how you'd have sex with your friend yet be awkward in another situation. Doesn't make sense
/r/seduction14/01/18 09:01 AM
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Do you use Spice Girls in your pickup lines? I bet you do
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:48 AM
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Umm... what the fuck?
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:45 AM
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The ONLY reason you run out of shit to say is because you don't think what you have to say is good enough. You don't run out of things to say to your parents or close friends, because there's not much you could say that would make them leave or not like you. With a girl, you're trying to impress her and make her like you, so you don't say certain things because they might turn her off. Stop this. Say whatever comes into your mind, no matter how nonsensical or inflammatory a remark it is. Convers…
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:44 AM
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Only ever ask for a girl's number or social media if you've already planned a date or have a reason to keep in touch. Way too many guys get a girl's number and just bolt, then try to "text game" them. It's asoundingly easy for a girl to give you her number if you've planned a date or reason to keep in touch. And don't try and plan a date unless you can't do anything with her right then and there. That being said: Ask for the number Accept Snapchat or Facebook if she suggests it, but ask for the …
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:35 AM
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Next time you see her, talk to her and get to know her (what classes she's taking, her passions, her background, etc). After she's opened up ask her to grab food/coffee/drinks and plan your next meetup. Get her number so you can keep in touch, then try not to text her outside of meeting up and maybe class stuff (which is also a great excuse to get her number). Then just go on a date with her. I'd suggest keeping it pretty formal while you're working on the project, but flirt a little bit and be …
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:28 AM
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Read Models by Mark Manson Watch RSD videos (I'd suggest starting with RSDMax's Manifesto) Study up on this sub's content Go out and talk to girls
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:20 AM
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If you can have sex with your friend for a week straight, what else are you trying to accomplish? It doesn't get more sexual than sex
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:16 AM
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Well you've got two options here: A) You ask her out and maybe get rejected, maybe have sex with her. B) You don't do anything and have NO chance of having sex with her. Obviously don't be creepy about it. Don't say you love her, and don't text her 500 times if she doesn't respond. Just be playful and plan to meet up sometime. Be direct and let her know you're attracted, then go from there
/r/seduction14/01/18 08:11 AM
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pleasure pit
/r/seduction14/01/18 07:22 AM
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It seems like what's killing your success is a pessimist attitude, not your looks. Ugly people get laid. If they didn't, there wouldn't be ugly people. The ones that get laid do so because they don't care how they look. So stop shitting on yourself and go talk to girls. Your other option is to die a virgin
/r/seduction14/01/18 07:16 AM
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What should I do? Go approach women and stop giving a fuck about your deficiencies. There's nothing you can do about them, so stop caring about them
/r/seduction14/01/18 06:58 AM
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See I've been told otherwise too though - that trying to set up a date is too much pressure and they'll feel better about giving you their number. If a girl will give you her number but not schedule a date, she probably isn't into you. If you haven't built enough attraction and interest that she'd agree to a date, she won't be persuaded over text. I have no interest in manipulating a girl into fucking me. If I have to trick my way into it, is it even valid? I don't know what about building attra…
/r/seduction14/01/18 12:57 AM
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I think /u/circlhat definitely picked apart why your mindset is failing you, so I'm just gonna focus on number game. PUA predates the internet. I think everyone can agree that guys were getting laid before cell phones existed, so how do you think they got by? They planned a date and expected the girl to show up. And the girl would most likely show up. Cellphones are amazing, but if you rely on them you're fucked. Thinking all you have to do is get a girl's number and somehow seduce her over the …
/r/seduction13/01/18 11:15 PM
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This. Plus, you can talk about nerdy shit I'm sure you like but club girls would never have heard of. Just don't be a creep and talk to them like normal people, especially cosplayers with all the creepy dudes groping people on the news. You're basically in the top 20% of guys by just talking to a girl.
/r/seduction13/01/18 07:20 PM
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Yes, and /r/Fitness is a bunch of fat fucks. If everyone on this sub was a sex god, we wouldn't need this sub.
/r/seduction13/01/18 07:15 PM
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Label your car with Fake Taxi stickers
/r/seduction13/01/18 03:26 AM
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Besides the fact this post has nothing to do with this sub and made me laugh out loud, I'll try an answer. Just talk to your girlfriend. I assume you've had sex with her before (though it sure doesn't sound like it the way you write about oral sex). Just ask if she's clean and it would be safe to do what you want to. If you've known her awhile you could even have her get tested with you for posterity. If not, just decide whether or not it's worth it to risk a disease. what other things can do do…
/r/seduction13/01/18 03:26 AM
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She is already at the lowest level of someone I don't go on dates with but meet with purely to sleep with Then why do you care? You either care enough about her to worry that she's seeing other guys, or you don't and this doesn't bother you. Do you care that a bartender serves other people drinks?
/r/seduction12/01/18 11:53 PM
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I'd highly recommend checking out some of RSDLuke's stuff. He's an overweight white guy with Jesus hair, yet he lives in Vegas banging 10's. He advocates Social Circle game heavily but still cold approaches and gets girls way out of his league. Just be so confident and charming that looks don't matter and girls will go for you. Mystery Method is good since it teaches structure in an otherwise chaotic skillset, but it isn't the Bible of game. It works because it forces you to be commanding and ch…
/r/seduction12/01/18 08:36 PM
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"y-you too"
/r/seduction12/01/18 08:30 PM
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You can still hit on girls in gym or the yoga class, just don't be obvious about it. Be indirect, say you want to hang out sometime, and don't be making creepy remarks and compliments because the gym environnent is a "safe space" for shit like that. If it's still a big turn off, go anywhere that girls normally are and pick the fit ones. That's obviously your type, so just go game in normally high traffic spots and try and close fit girls.
/r/seduction12/01/18 07:22 PM
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I just go with "What days are you free?". If she's interested and willing, she'll usually give you a time or date when she is. If she's just blowing you off you'll usually get "Oh, I'm busy this week. Maybe next week", to which I just reply "That doesn't work for me". The key is that you're looking for a time when she's free, but you're not too desperate to take whatever time she gives you.
/r/seduction12/01/18 03:36 PM
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I agree that the friendzone doesn't exist in a tangible sense. No girl ever thinks "I'll just put this guy in the friendzone because I don't like him sexually". What I mean whenever I talk about the friendzone or establishing man-to-woman interactions is more on the guy not taking action to move the relationship dynamic from platonic to sexual. Most guys who try and pickup girls through a situation/venue that isn't inherently sexual like a bar/nightclub usually don't escalate sexually enough tha…
/r/seduction11/01/18 12:59 AM
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I'd say if she's not willing to take the drive then that's a lack of investment. You coming over might be easier in that scenario, but it won't get her more invested and the situation stays the same. Just tease her for it and build some comfort. Something like "I'll make it worth your while, I give great massages". Be prepared for a flake, since especially off Tinder girls tend to be really flaky, but treat it like it's a done deal and don't give up the close.
/r/seduction10/01/18 11:45 PM
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You already have something in common with them, in that you go to class together, so approaching is easy. Just go up and talk to them about the class and why they're taking it as an opener. If you want to be more direct you can approach with a statement of intent, with the background of being a classmate. Something like "Why is a girl as cute as yourself taking a class like this?". Then just continue like you would with any girl, taking the conversation to a more personal level and spiking her e…
/r/seduction10/01/18 07:31 PM
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To expound on this: People talk all the time. It's natural, and a part of our evolution. Never feel creepy talking to someone because it's normal to do so. If people didn't talk to strangers, especially for the purposes of sex, the human race would never survive. Social media has recently pushed an agenda that you only need to interact online, but even 20 years ago, the only way to meet someone was to approach them. It's never creepy
/r/seduction10/01/18 03:43 PM
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Something like "Tying you up 50 Shades of Grey style, smothering you in chocolate sauce, and throwing you down harder than when in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table."
/r/seduction10/01/18 03:37 PM
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I'd recommend classic rock or hard rap. Both talk about sex with multiple women and being Alpha/in-charge. Stuff like Motley Crue or Wu Tang are good. Really you can listen to whatever music you want so long as it's not a Justin Bieber love song. Modern pop has taken over the music industry with BP lyrics and messages, since it's aimed at young girls.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/18 03:32 PM
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Tinder has always been for the top percentage of men. It's gotten more saturated and less attention as time goes on, but it's always followed two rules: Be Attractive Don't be Unattractive Unless you have a six pack and exotic pictures, you're probably not gonna get good results
/r/TheRedPill10/01/18 03:27 PM
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If they wanted to respect you, passing the shit test is a way of proving your value to her. She subliminally wants you to pass so you can be her Alpha Male. If they don't respect you in the first place (e.g. you already proved to be beta or she considers herself that much above you), then the shit test is more for her enjoyment of you not passing it. Girls like nothing more than for their orbiters to freak out and come running after them. It gives them loads of validation.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/18 03:25 PM
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You want to go for a close when you have the best chance of succeeding. If she still hasn't given a hard No you want to continue the conversation and keep trying to make her invested. After a certain point there's diminishing returns, but that point is entirely up to you and when you lose interest
/r/seduction10/01/18 02:37 PM
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My sense of humor likes to push the ridiculous, and if that's not for you that's fine. You still want to spike her emotions, and comedy is a good way to do that. Being edgy is optional
/r/seduction10/01/18 02:34 PM
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Just be mindful and slow down your speech. Take deep breaths and realize that she's not gonna run away if you don't get everything out in time. In fact, slowing down your speech can make her more invested in you.
/r/seduction10/01/18 04:41 AM
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Lower the threshold of what's "good" to say. People just exchange facts because it's safe. You've got to open up and take risks, and you can only do that by investing less into the conversation. It shouldn't matter to you to be liked by people and constantly seek theur approval. You should be amusing yourself first, then taking people's reactions into consideration. If a thought pops into your head it should come straight out your mouth. No filters or thinking yourself out of it. The funniest jo…
/r/seduction10/01/18 04:38 AM
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The maybe was a soft no, so instead of going for a close where there's a low chance of success, I'd be playful and keep the conversation going for a little bit to see if sparking interest increases your chances. Something like "I promise not to harvest your kidneys if you can promise the same" plus some conversation would spike her emotions and get her more invested. Maybe ask what movies she's into and preplan which one to watch. Again, just to increase her investment. Another point is to never…
/r/seduction10/01/18 04:28 AM
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I'm keenly aware of this. I know the optimal strategy for losing weight, it's just a matter of willpower that I'm working to gain
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 08:58 PM
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Mark Manson is opposed to the idea of PUA and focusing on "seducing" girls. He talks about not liking the flashy/showman stuff that old PUA teaches (including The Game). Understanding that he's trying to teach pickup while being against it makes swallowing his teachings easier.
/r/seduction08/01/18 08:51 PM
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Holdmyfries is meant to be a comedy sub about fat people, the old fatpeoplehate users just migrated there. (Sort of like how incels tried taking over this sub)
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 08:36 PM
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For me it's ranked by the instant message abilities. More people message on Snapchat than Insta, Insta than Facebook, etc. Where you are might be different, but where I live nobody really uses Facebook for messaging or meeting people
/r/seduction08/01/18 07:34 PM
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I am fat. I'm actually obese but I don't have the thunder thighs and double chin because I'm tall. The best motivation in my life was high school, where I was bullied for being the only one in my class who was overweight. I lost 30lbs the second I graduated and had a job and control over what I ate. The thing is, I kinda miss high school. Now that I'm confident and funny and not an introverted nerd most people won't acknowledge to me that I'm fat. I get a lot of "Oh, your not fat, you carry your…
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 05:34 PM
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Learn pickup
/r/seduction08/01/18 06:53 AM
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Phone Number Snapchat Insta Facebook Usually in that order.
/r/seduction08/01/18 06:51 AM
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Approach the entire group and make friends with them. Focus on the one girl only after you've entered their social circle and start isolating her (making jokes like "this one seems like trouble"). Start seeding the idea that you're interested in her (stuff like "I bet when our guys go out, she's the one that all the guys hit on"). Start talking with just her and eventually seclude her ("I hope you guys don't mind if I borrow her for a bit"). Then take her away from the group and continue as norm…
/r/seduction08/01/18 06:47 AM
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Just lower your energy and disregard the IODs they give you. Most of the time when shy girls seem like they don't like you it's entirely that they're nervous.
/r/seduction08/01/18 06:42 AM
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I think there's definitely a curve. A virgin with no experience is going to learn a lot more than an expert with the same amount of effort. That being said, game doesn't really have a skill ceiling. You are as good as you make yourself be. There can definitely be a point where you've learned about all you can from just books and forums, but going out and getting experience will never fail to teach you something.
/r/seduction08/01/18 06:40 AM
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My initial comment was that you need to base the relationship on respect and sexual attraction would follow. I think you possibly just misinterpreted it
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 05:18 AM
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What I "proposed" was to build a relationship of respect. Sexual attraction comes with respect in a man-to-woman relationship. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/18 04:08 AM
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Humor is good because it shows you don't take yourself/life seriously. This conveys Alpha tendencies because it shows you're more interested in amusing yourself than picking up the girl. This then conveys it must happen a lot for you if you don't care, and so the girl is attracted to you. The best combination in my experience is narcissism and self deprecation. Narcissism is talked about a lot here for its benefits, namely self-love which is attractive. You then balance it with humor, especially…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 11:10 PM
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That's why you need to make friends with the BFF the whole time. She's the gatekeeper on whether or not you can take the girl home. You need to make her feel like you can be trusted so don't leave her out of conversation. If you're good enough you can get the BFF to wingman for you, which is the ideal scenario. And as for the compliment, even if it's forced you can get away with it if you're confident. It sounds like you immediately regretted it and it showed. Just don't pay too much attention t…
/r/seduction06/01/18 10:59 PM
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First and foremost if legality is your prime consideration for how you live your life you are a slave. I guess I am a slave for not raping and selling women as slaves like the Old Testament talks about. Sometimes law lines up with basic human values. Furthermore human psychology has remained fundamentally unchanged for thousands of years there are no outdated books on the subject as nothing ever changes. Human psychology doesn't change, but culture does. Quite rapidly in fact. At the time of the…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 09:42 PM
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I live in the real world, and I'm not shy around women, so I get laid. If women "give away pussy" so easily, why are you even bothering with a prostitute?
/r/seduction06/01/18 09:21 PM
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Initial experience in what? You aren't gonna learn how to talk to girls and sleep with them from an escort. You'll only learn by wanting to learn. PUA bootcamps are solely for guys who want to learn but don't know how or just can't. I don't think they're the end all be all solution, or even a good one for most guys, but a hooker isn't going to teach you anything. If you feel that losing your virginity to one is that important, go for it. But it's not going to teach anything and if you think it w…
/r/seduction06/01/18 08:26 PM
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"If you give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he'll eat for the rest of his life." Now I don't know about where you are, but in most places I know of, prostitutes aren't tested. If they are in your country, great. The difference between learning to pick up girls and paying for one is that once you've learned enough, you can do it forever. You never forget how to ride a bike. Paying for one is a one-time experience that might be fun, but once it's over you can't repl…
/r/seduction06/01/18 07:38 PM
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I think your first problem was getting fucked up. Alcohol is fine in moderation, but after a few drinks you typically already have the increased confidence, and then you're just slowing down your reaction time, which is BAD for your game. Generally if you want to drink, do it at the beginning of the night to calm your nerves, and slow down once you're in a good set or are feeling at all tipsy. We hit it off really well at the pub. She was laughing at what I was saying and 'accidentally' touching…
/r/seduction06/01/18 07:32 PM
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I honestly don't see how the Bible has anything to do with redpill. Yes, this one verse sounds kinda similar, but mostly the book is about monogamy, and any reference to women in a redpill manner can be explained away in that they just didn't have feminism back then. They treated women in a primal way that can't be replicated in today's society because it's illegal. The Bible is an old way of thinking that shouldn't really be followed by today's standards
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 07:09 PM
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That's why the relationship needs to be built before committing to it. Honesty and trust are important, and most girls don't have or want either of those traits going into marriage because they are like how you've described. They are using marriage as a manipulation tool rather than an official bond. And that's why marriage in most cases is a terrible idea. You have to screen out any potential slut tendencies before even considering committing. Most guys just jump right in without a second thoug…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 07:01 PM
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My belief is in the phrase "Your wife is a best friend that you sometimes fuck." If you're going out and picking up chicks in a bar/club and think that down the line she won't cheat on or divorce you, you're wrong. Good marriages can exist, but it should be built from a fundamental relationship that's deeper and more sound than romance in our current climate allows. It should be almost a lifelong "friendship" with mutual respect and attraction, not attraction that tries to gain respect. AWALT pr…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/18 08:10 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/U4AaE
/r/seduction05/01/18 08:29 PM
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Shen really likes convuluting points in order to make a funny comic. It's what made the bike-cuck meme so funny
/r/seduction05/01/18 07:35 PM
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First of all, stop worrying about it. There's a million possible things that might've happened that made her ghost that are outside of your control and have nothing to do with you. With that being said, it's usually fairly common that once you get into foreplay, if you don't seal the deal that night, they ghost you. This is just because you've proven that the next time you meet, sex is expected to happen, and her Slut Defense will be going crazy. Generally if you're gonna go past making out, you…
/r/seduction05/01/18 05:53 PM
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The best thing you can do is practice. Go out and talk to girls, and do things that you would be afraid of doing. 99% of guys that are awkward or shy around women in some way are like this simply due to inexperience and lack of practice. Just set a goal for how many girls you think you can approach a day, then try and approach more than that. Someone who's talked to 1000 girls is gonna have better ability to talk to them than someone who's only talked to 100. Aslo, make it a goal to go further e…
/r/seduction05/01/18 07:50 AM
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Being attractive to women entirely relies on Value and Comfort. That's it. If a girl sees you as valuable enough and is comfortable enough around you, she'll fuck you. Nothing else is required. Guys who get a lot of chicks have high amounts of value and/or comfort. They are either: Valuable: Which means they're attractive, rich, stylish, confident, or generally successful. Comfortable: Which means they're funny, charming, laid-back, enjoyable, confident (confidence counts as both in most respect…
/r/seduction05/01/18 06:36 AM
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The two biggest tips to conversation I can give are: 1) Self-Amusement 2) Observations Self Amusement: When you're talking to your best friends do you run out of things to say? Probably not. This is because you've broken down most social barriers with them and are comfortable just talking about whatever you feel like. The trick to talking to strangers is to emulate this by self-amusing. This means instead of looking for approval or validation you should be focusing on entertaining yourself more …
/r/seduction05/01/18 06:26 AM
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Ideally there's banter inbetween them. You don't just ask question after question like you're interrogating her
/r/seduction05/01/18 05:59 AM
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Generally a good plan for this is to take them for a walk. Tell them you're just "going out" and be vague, then take them on a walk somewhere nice. While you're walking you can escalate and build attraction, then go for food or drinks once they've warmed up. If she ever says the walk is boring/"soppy", you can go to a museum or something interesting and act like it was planned
/r/seduction03/01/18 11:46 PM
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Being lazy or unmotivated is unattractive, but it's beneficial since you can easily make plans with girls that have nothing going on. Usually girls like this are good for FWB or fuckbuddies since they're always free, but I don't like going further than that with them since it's usually boring
/r/seduction03/01/18 11:42 PM
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I honestly think if it's been getting this bad for you, you need therapy. Some comments by random Redditors aren't really gonna help you with deep-seated insecurities. Don't be ashamed or feel "weak" because of it, just go get help and it'll make so much more difference than reading PUA guides, trust me.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/17 11:38 PM
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The general Tinder formula is: Open with witty comment (something about their profile is best) Banter and tease until they're invested (Either when they start asking you questions, or if they respond super positively to a tease) Ask for number/social media to build more investment, and also screen time-wasters (not 100% necessary, but mostly worth it) Ask logistics and schedule meet-up. The main thing you have to keep in mind is that online dating is a numbers game. Behind the privacy of their p…
/r/seduction27/12/17 11:31 PM
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Any approach is worth it if there's a chance of success. And any approach has some chance you'll succeed. So Always Approach.
/r/seduction27/12/17 11:21 PM
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Wait until a reasonable amount of time before the date, throw out a last message (I know double messaging is bad, but you've got nothing to lose at that point) that conveys she'd be missing out, not you. If she still doesn't respond, just ignore her. Don't block her though, because that's petty, and she might change her mind some time down the road
/r/TheRedPill27/12/17 09:26 PM
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I know exactly what you're talking about. We all have different states of mind where we switch between extrovert and introvert. Generally it comes much easier with family/friends/coworkers because there's a pre-established rapport (you're not afraid of your BFF rejecting you). This is why you can talk to your parents forever, even when you've already exhausted most general questions (how are you, where are you from, etc). The trick to becoming more extroverted on the fly is to just force yoursel…
/r/seduction24/12/17 08:59 PM
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What are you going to do to not let it happen (if that is your intention) Get a date and how do you plan on doing it? Talking to women
/r/seduction24/12/17 05:14 PM
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The secret to everlasting conversation has two parts: Low Standards: You need to lower the standards of what you think is "good enough" to say to a girl. You want the words to pour straight from your brain. No filter. If you think of something that might not be funny or might not go over well, just say it anyway. Not only does this let you talk longer by just rambling on, but it shows vulnerability and openness, which builds comfort. Word Association: Basically you just want to be able to link t…
/r/seduction24/12/17 04:31 PM
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Get out. Shoo. Go away
/r/seduction23/12/17 11:29 PM
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Just stop with this pessimistic bullshit No one gives a fuck about your text messages, dude. If I look back to my texts to girls from years back, I'd vomit from the cringe. But guess what? Those girls completely forgot about them like a week later. Because they have their own problems and their own lives. Yes, they might show their friends and laugh, but why the fuck do you care? You already got rejected, you don't have any reason to care what they think about you. Just move on. I count double d…
/r/seduction23/12/17 11:36 AM
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If you're telling yourself that you can't do A because of B, that's an excuse. Go get a job, and talk to girls.You don't need to spend hours approaching women, just talk to any girls you see in your daily life, and make an effort to go out more. Stop making excuses
/r/seduction23/12/17 10:51 AM
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I don't see what this has to do with game. A girl from Tinder was horny and you were attractive enough that she invited you over. You didn't do anything. I like your explanation of approach mentality in the comments, but that's something that gets restated daily on this sub, and is usually written much better/more in depth.
/r/seduction23/12/17 10:17 AM
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I'm just gonna put this here: The peak of a women's beauty is about 16-25. The peak of a man's handsomeness can go into the early 50's if he takes care of himself
/r/seduction23/12/17 01:34 AM
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It all depends on your level of investment. I suspect yours is very low, so rejection isn't a big deal. Some people invest TONS into their crush/"soulmate" and when they get rejected, it's a lot more awkward.
/r/seduction23/12/17 01:25 AM
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U want sum fuk?
/r/seduction21/12/17 10:00 PM
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If you have nothing to lose, just chat her up, get her number, and go on a date with her. Don't play the long game, it never works
/r/seduction21/12/17 09:59 PM
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Generally I'm not looking for reasons to reject girls, or I'd just reject them. That being said, any act of disinterest aside from outright rejection on her part should be treated as a shit test. Just ignore it completely, or make fun of it (agree and amplify). It's entirely up to you how severe/repeated a shit test gets before you bail on the date.
/r/seduction21/12/17 12:10 PM
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First of all, don't overthink this. She's just a girl. There's nothing particularly special about her, you've just been building her up on a pedestal. Second, SMV doesn't mean shit when you approach girls. If we were only allowed to date lower SMV girls I'd be fucking fatties for the rest of my life. Third, don't overthink this. She's just a girl. If you see her, go up and say whatever. Don't treat her special or pay her fake compliments since she can get that from everyone else. Just go up, say…
/r/seduction21/12/17 04:52 AM
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I also caressed her lap which didn't seem to give her any issue. I couldn't conclude as we weren't alone but I feel like she might like me, Yep, she likes you
/r/seduction20/12/17 11:22 PM
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okay i guess
/r/seduction18/12/17 11:04 PM
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Don't bother
/r/seduction18/12/17 10:30 PM
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Both as peacocking and pre selection swtich As peacocking it will have the exact opposite effect that you want it to have. And peacocking isn't something that's considered effective anymore. As a pre selection switch, you're only going to attract the wrong kind of girl, so don't bother Just wear what you want to wear, and go out there
/r/seduction18/12/17 09:40 PM
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You should text her when you want to meet up, whenever that might be. Just make sure that you're not being pushy and you don't act dependent on her answer. If it's a yes, go for it. If it's a no, you just move on and don't initiate until the next time you want to meet up. Usually I give it two attempts, where you text her once to meet up and if she doesn't answer I text again a while later. If still no response, she's out. No initiating until she texts me, or about a week has passed (that's my r…
/r/seduction18/12/17 04:47 AM
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You look like Jim Jefferies' younger brother
/r/seduction18/12/17 02:25 AM
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Keep your investment low. She's just a girl. She might have had sex with you but that doesn't make her special. Don't try to raise her on a pedestal or "lock her down" in any way. Just text again the next time you want to meet up/hook up. Be assertive (Say "let's chill tomorrow at __ p.m." instead of "When are you available?"). She's definitely invested in you, so the best thing you can do is give her space to build that high value image of you in her head. Don't initiate a text conversation unt…
/r/seduction18/12/17 01:20 AM
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She's using you for attention. Leave her, improve yourself, and go get a better girl (or 50)
/r/seduction18/12/17 01:10 AM
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This isn't /r/rateme
/r/seduction18/12/17 01:09 AM
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Depends on your game. If you're trying to be loud and bold, peacocking will assist this, whereas if you go calm and cool then you should dress to match. Outside of that, dress in clothes that fit and colors that go well together and you're good.
/r/seduction18/12/17 01:08 AM
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That's a common way of saying "I don't feel attracted enough to you to give you my number" You'll notice if you attract particularly cold women they'll say something similar: "I don't normally give my number away, but ... (proceeds to give number)". It's just a natural defense most women have. Just take this as a rejection, since anything you might try after this point will just look needy. Just take it as a learning experience. Next time, increase the escalation and attraction more before the n…
/r/seduction17/12/17 08:57 PM
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If she stopped me and tried to get my phone number as I'm walking to class I'd think that was especially weird. I get that you're trying to build a mindset where this is normal so as to permeate it to the girl, but still acknowledging shows social awareness. Otherwise when you stop a girl who's busy you sound oblivious to social norms.
/r/seduction17/12/17 08:49 PM
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That I can't really say. It's gonna be different every time you go out. Expect to succeed in every set, since that confidence will permeate the conversation, but if you do get rejected it's not a big deal. Especially in a busy location where you can bounce from girl to girl. It's just important that you have outcome independence: you don't care about succeeding or winning, you just care about going out and having fun. A good quote I heard (from RSDTyler I believe) is: "Just try to say hello and …
/r/seduction17/12/17 08:46 PM
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But it's NOT awkward. People talk to each other every day; it's not weird. We talk to people all the time at grocery stores, banks, etc. Talking to people isn't weird. Pickup in broad daylight with a possible time constraint is. In a situation where you can talk to the girl for a while and have it be a natural conversation that escalates to a close of some sort, then yes, it's not gonna be awkward and therefore you don't have to point it out. But OP is talking about girls you'd approach who are …
/r/seduction17/12/17 09:13 AM
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This is fine, though you really don't need to say that you know it's weird. I think for a situation where you're cold approaching a girl in the middle of the day it's good to acknowledge the awkwardness. It shows that you're socially adept enough to understand what you're doing is random and weird, but that you're confident enough to still do it. And putting it in the opening line is as good a place as any. Overall, simply sharing an observation about the situation or the girl, is better than th…
/r/seduction17/12/17 06:38 AM
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Bring a condom, yo
/r/seduction17/12/17 04:05 AM
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The logistics shit is to keep you from sending text walls and becoming her texting buddy before you hook up. It's usually best to stick with before you have sex so she doesn't pin you in the friendzone (you can still text her before, we just say not to since most guys really suck at it, me included). Afterwards you still don't want to ever be sending walls of text or asking her about her day 20 times a week, but texting is fine
/r/seduction17/12/17 04:04 AM
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It will work the exact same way. Only difference is that college is usually a more open environment so girls a lot of the times are more willing to talk or flirt. So it's somewhat more expected than just on a busy street. For daygame out on the street you should be aware of the fact that usually people are busy or are going somewhere (not always the case, especially for beautiful women), so you need to be more forward and "aggressive" with your approach. Make sure you stop them in their tracks, …
/r/seduction17/12/17 03:58 AM
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You had to bring your dick into this conversation and it got upvotes. If someone is gonna turn a conversation into ad hominem insults, I'm gonna retaliate. Yet I'm remind you of what I said in my post, because some of it you misinterupted, and I get down votes. Shows where the maturity is, just saying. I can't control what people upvote/downvote. People just generally don't like when you're needlessly self-deprecating, especially on a sub preaching self-confidence as one of its main teachings. A…
/r/seduction17/12/17 12:40 AM
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As long as you can and if it's a random approach, start with her. After saying she's cute, you would elaborate on what about her stands out, then make an observation on that. If she looks nerdy, you say "I like your whole nerdy look. I bet you get straight A's". It doesn't matter if your observation is correct, she'll correct you. After that it's up to you to keep the conversation rolling until she invests (contributes to the conversation). So in the example I gave you could then give a story ab…
/r/seduction17/12/17 12:25 AM
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Stop them and say "I know this is weird, but I thought you were cute and wanted to say hi" That's it. That's all you have to do to approach
/r/seduction16/12/17 10:39 PM
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You can absolutely still cold approach. Just be comfortable in your own skin and live with your flaws. If you can show that you don't care about your appearance to girls, they won't care either. It might even be a good idea to use it in game so they can't come up with a response (E.g. "I know it's weird for an ugly guy to approach you like this, but..."). If you can point out your flaws in a way that shows you're still confident, they won't have any way to reject you based on those flaws.
/r/seduction16/12/17 10:00 PM
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Yes, and the point I've been trying to make is that genetics is only a portion of what makes you attractive. Your personality, style, and confidence are what you should focus on, since they will be what you can actively improve. Getting mad at genetics is like yelling at the sky whenever it rains. You're not accomplishing anything
/r/seduction16/12/17 09:27 PM
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Legitimate problems Being "genetically below average" Pick one. And I really don't care about what you say about me dude, but if you think it'll help you or make you feel better, go ahead. Make fun of my micro-penis too while you're at it, because it's actually below average.
/r/seduction16/12/17 09:23 PM
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Keep telling yourself how much worse you have it than other people. Attraction is subjective, so it's actually impossible that you can state "facts" about being unattractive
/r/seduction16/12/17 09:18 PM
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And see, you chose to whine online instead of working on your confidence and social skills. Live with your flaws, because there's nothing you can do about them. And don't compare yourself to others because statistically we're all below average in some respects. But again, there's nothing you can do. You either work past it or let it consume you. Your choice
/r/seduction16/12/17 08:29 PM
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"Hey, it's been a while. You're not dead, are you?" (Wait for response or a full day to pass. Whichever comes first) "Let's grab coffee/dinner/drinks sometime" (Wait for response. Don't text until she responds) "Let's go to _____ at _____" (Next time you talk should be in-person)
/r/seduction16/12/17 08:17 PM
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Looks do matter. They really do. If me and Tom Cruise approach the same girl with the same lines and the same attitude, he'll be more likely to grab her attention and therefore seduce her. But you know what, who gives a fuck. Handsome people do well with girls. Water is wet. You look how you look, and unless you want to fuck your shit up with cosmetic surgery, you ain't gonna look like Tom Cruise. What you can do is get better clothes, work on your physique, and overall maximize your looks. I lo…
/r/seduction16/12/17 08:12 PM
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You feel free to think that. I can take it on the chin and move on, because I'm not trying to get your approval. You, on the other hand, are trying to get people to agree that your life sucks and it's not your fault that girls might not like you, it's "genetics". Then you attack anyone who doesn't feed into your bubble of self-hatred. The difference between you and me doesn't start with losing my virginity, it starts with my willingness to improve and to live with my flaws. Even if I was the inc…
/r/seduction16/12/17 07:41 PM
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She'd think "Well, that was fun. I guess he doesn't like me that much. Next." If "the sizzlers are burning hot" then you settle for a phone number. If you're gaming a girl the goal in mind is sex. So you escalate to sex, or settle if you don't get there. Leaving mid set when you could go further is a bad plan, because you should only attempt it if you know she'll chase, and at that point you could already pull her, so what's the point? Something like this should be a last resort against heavy LM…
/r/seduction16/12/17 06:09 AM
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You wouldn't be able to last one week living with grotesquely, 1/10 male looks and mental disorders that can't be cured. And neither would you if any of the shit you said was true. You could be improving and getting better but instead you whine online to try and get validation through pity
/r/seduction16/12/17 04:14 AM
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/r/titlegore
/r/seduction16/12/17 03:39 AM
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I've approached over a 1,000 girls at this point and have gotten absolutely NOWHERE. Fake news. You can't be "good" with women. It's all about preselection based on genetics that you're born with. It's fucking bullshit. I'm fat, I have a weak chin, I have no muscles, and my voice sounds like a girl's. I haven't even approach 1000 women like you, and I've gotten laid a lot. It's not genetics keeping you from getting girls, it's your weak attitude. But go ahead, keep whining on a forum for people …
/r/seduction16/12/17 03:36 AM
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Fixed
/r/seduction15/12/17 11:58 PM
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Try and convey what you want to say in as few words as possible. Don't just text her the next day unless it's to meet up/schedule another date. Just text her "Last night was fun, let's do it again sometime" then text her the next time you're free to hang out with her. That's it. Save the conversations for real life
/r/seduction15/12/17 10:52 PM
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you don't have what it takes to participate in this community. I didn't know a lack of understanding of sarcasm was a prerequisite
/r/TheRedPill15/12/17 01:12 AM
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Can't wait for the post tomorrow: "Adolf Hitler - Red Pill Example (And why YOU should be a Nazi)"
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 08:37 AM
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Yes, but only if your frame is stronger than the water's. Otherwise it's impossible
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 08:34 AM
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Be more forward. If she's older she's not playing games anymore. She knows what you're after, so just be straight with her. Older women don't put up the weird mind games younger girls do. Be cocky. She's gonna be testing you pretty hard if she decides to do so. Act like you've already guaranteed you're gonna sleep with her and blow through her shit tests. Utilize your youth. There's a reason cougars exist, and it's because at her age the amount of good-looking, Alpha men are severely diminished.…
/r/seduction14/12/17 04:35 AM
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How much cocaine did you do before writing this?
/r/seduction14/12/17 04:28 AM
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Yes. Because after you turn 19 a magical curse is placed on you that prevents you from ever having sex again /s Again, it doesn't make a difference in the world to anyone if you're a virgin. The only reason it might affect your game is because you let it.
/r/seduction14/12/17 04:25 AM
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No one but you knows you're a virgin. Quite frankly, they don't care. Just act normal and people will think you're normal. As for if every girl hates you, unless you have a tattoo on your forehead that says "Hate Me", I seriously doubt they do. Women act uninterested to any man, that's their primary defense mechanism. If women just let men into their pants without putting up walls, they'd be called a slut. A woman's greatest fear is being called a slut, so they act uninterested and cold. Just go…
/r/seduction13/12/17 11:55 PM
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Get things that reflect your personality. Posters, furniture, collections of books/movies/video games. It's your space, let it be a reflection of you Though if you're talking about stuff exclusively for having girls over: Attention Grabbers: Cool posters and art that gives them something to talk about and shows your personality off Things to Do: Anything you can bring her over for. Video games, movies, music. Things you can use to say "Let's go back to my place and play Mario Kart/Watch a movie/…
/r/seduction13/12/17 11:32 PM
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Women want attention the same way men do. They want someone to care about what they have to say, and someone who makes them feel special. The difference is in the man-woman dynamic, because men in this world have to actively go out and seek women to get attention from them (unless you're ridiculously attractive), whereas women get attention from guys all the time without doing anything. In terms of pickup, this just means you want to actually be paying attention to what she's saying and carrying…
/r/seduction13/12/17 06:26 PM
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I think what OP is getting at is to establish your sexuality/IDGAF attitude all you want, just don't direct it at her until she's comfortable enough with you to let her guard down. In night game you can do this right off the bat, but with day game you want to open her up a bit first, ergo getting her social media and going to night game where you can fully escalate. If you were to go for instapulls/instadates, that's when you'd introduce sexuality into the equation much sooner, but fewer girls w…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/17 02:26 AM
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Similar answer you'd give a girl who asks if you have a girlfriend, or asks how many sexual partners you've had. She wants to test your social proof/your value. Just prove you're not insecure about your answer and you're good. The actual number doesn't matter. Also, her initial question isn't the shit test, it's her reaction to your response. Because of this a good approach is to exaggerate your answer to prove you don't care about her reaction. Something like "Only one, but she turned out to be…
/r/seduction11/12/17 11:31 AM
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You know what, I completely agree with you. I've come to similar realizations myself. It's what Models by Mark Manson teaches. Just being confident in yourself above all else, and acting without restriction because of it, is the best way to live happy. Because you're not judging yourself on bad metrics anymore. And by being happy you do better with women, who primarily look for a) value, which you've given through your confidence, and b) comfort, which you've given with your ability to express y…
/r/seduction11/12/17 11:03 AM
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Books to Read: No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert A. Glover How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson Models by Mark Manson I could give you paragraphs of advice and things you need to do, but anything I'd have to say has been better covered in either the sidebar or on the Top posts of this subreddit, so just go read all those. I'd also recommend checking out RSD on YouTube(RSDTyler, RSDMax, RSDJulien are the current top 3) I used to …
/r/seduction11/12/17 08:22 AM
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Use it to build a little rapport, then ask her out. If you're too busy or the logistics don't work, send one or two goofy snaps to keep you in her thoughts, especially if it can also show social proof (you at a party, cool event, out with attractive people, etc). A other good tip for using Snapchat is to constantly add to your story (preferably with cool pics) so girls don't forget about you. I've had girls I basically forgot about hit me up after a particularly funny story
/r/seduction11/12/17 08:08 AM
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Laughing would be good, as long as it's genuine. A great defense against shit tests is to laugh, since it shows you don't care by finding it amusing. The difficulty is getting to the level where you find the shit tests amusing, since by then you've probably experienced them enough for them not to be a problem
/r/seduction11/12/17 07:54 AM
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Either reply to a post she made, or message her something that relates to her IG. A good example might be "How do you get your photos to look so nice?". Then engage in playful conversation and ask for the number
/r/seduction11/12/17 03:00 AM
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The thing you have to consider and use to your advantage is that Snapchat still isn't considered as serious as texting. This means that it will be much easier to get a girl's Snapchat than her number, but it also means that they will be less likely to set up dates/move forward through Snapchat. Treat it like an inbetween, where you ask her for her snap, send her some silly pics/messages, then move on to the number ("This app drains my battery, what's your number?")
/r/seduction11/12/17 02:58 AM
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Just give genuine compliments. If you like her hair, compliment her hair. If you think she's funny, tell her. A good idea is to follow up with an observation/assumption ("I like your hair, it reminds me of ____"), this way it keeps the conversation going and doesn't put the onus on her to have to respond to the compliment. Just make sure you're complimenting her because you want to, not because you're looking to please her/give her validation
/r/seduction11/12/17 12:00 AM
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If a girl's investing, you need to use that investment to escalate with her. If she doesn't respond well to the escalation, you pull back and she'll invest more because she's more uncomfortable without your attention than she is with your advances. My guess is you didn't escalate enough, so she got tired and abandoned ship. Her talking to you again is a good thing, but precarious. It means she still likes you, but because you didn't escalate enough she's gonna be probing for weakness and trying …
/r/seduction10/12/17 11:24 PM
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It's just her testing you to see if you'll react. If you get jealous or flustered, you fail. If you don't react, you pass. I've had girls talk about their sexual history with me for even greater effect, and I just agree and amplify (E.g. "My last boyfriend had a 9" dick. I kinda miss it", to which I replied "Yeah, I mean that's a whole 8 and 3/4 more inches than me, so...")
/r/seduction10/12/17 11:06 PM
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If you changed subject with her and continued discussing said subject, it was most likely a fail. So she wouldn't be testing unless she subconsciously wanted me to pass? This is how all shit tests are. They're testing to see if you're truly good enough to sleep with, and they only do it because they want you to succeed. If she didn't want you to win, she wouldn't shit test you, she'd just reject you. Honestly, just don't overthink it. You'll get thousands of these little tests when gaming women,…
/r/seduction10/12/17 11:02 PM
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She tested you for the same reason girls say "I only date guys over 6' with a six-figure salary" on their Tinder bios, to screen you for neediness. Go look at the sidebar information to learn all about shit tests and how to deal with them. What was I supposed to say was she lying or something? She probably wasn't lying. In fact, she might not have even realized she was testing you (it's a subconscious defense girls have). You were "supposed" to say anything that proved you don't care what she ha…
/r/seduction10/12/17 10:05 PM
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The idea behind being loud and goofy is to showcase your confidence, and tell everyone you don't care. Being calm and collected achieves the same result. Usually I'd try and gear your attitude towards fitting the environment. Be loud and obnoxious in a club where it's normal, but be chill in a quieter bar/café/daygame location. And if you find yourself being cringey when you're loud, then don't do it. There's many different approaches to game. Just make sure you're loud enough that they can hear…
/r/seduction10/12/17 09:53 PM
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She was testing you to see who had control over the interaction. You let her, so you failed. Usually in this situation, you respond to the question (in a playful manner is preferable), then immediately switch back to whatever you were talking about. Don't give her time to breathe or she'll take control
/r/seduction10/12/17 09:45 PM
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A lot of girls go on Tinder for the validation that guys want them, but never actually go out. Some even have boyfriends and simply want outside attention. Don't sweat it.
/r/seduction10/12/17 10:50 AM
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I personally didn't work out too hard while on the diet, just due to me being a newbie to fitness (I got comfortable being fat), but from what I experienced I had more energy, so working out was easier than before. However, if you're already in shape or looking to bulk up, keto might not be for you, since it might limit muscle development due to cutting carbs. I'd do some research on it beforehand to see if it's for you
/r/TheRedPill10/12/17 10:46 AM
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I've accepted that I cannot and am actually unwilling to change this perception; how can one enjoy being with someone who he doesn't honestly see as having some quality that creates better feelings than most to him? The idea behind "taking her down from the pedestal" isn't necessarily about trying to lower her quality/value so much as it is about grounding yourself in reality. It's about accepting that she has flaws, like everyone, and by doing so you can talk to her like a normal person, withou…
/r/seduction10/12/17 10:02 AM
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Reply next week with a funny text or two, then ask her out again immediately. Even better if you invite her out somewhere you'd go regardless ("I'm going to X for Y, you should come along"). You want to convey you care less about the date than she does
/r/seduction10/12/17 09:18 AM
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If there's still a social situation where you can meet up casually (after a final exam, for a study group, etc), meet up with her there and bring up that you'd like to hang out over the break, then plan a date (planning a specific time helps her to not flake, as she'll have already made a promise to meet sometime). Planning a date in person is much better since you can build rapport, act flirty, and let your sexual intentions be known better than through text. If there is no way to meet up casua…
/r/seduction10/12/17 09:08 AM
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Am I the only one who doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about?
/r/seduction10/12/17 08:26 AM
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A majority of my non-working friends are girls I met just approaching women on the street or on campus. Talking to women on a regular basis really helps to improve your social skills for when you do hustle.
/r/seduction10/12/17 08:24 AM
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"Hmmm, we need an audience we can push this shitty porn game to..." ... "Aha! How about a PUA community about sleeping with real women?"
/r/seduction10/12/17 08:19 AM
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How To Be A Convicted Rapist in Just 3 Easy Steps!
/r/seduction10/12/17 05:40 AM
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Escalate, Escalate, Escalate. Always be pushing the proverbial envelope in an interaction. She's not gonna do it for you, so you've gotta be constantly escalating with her. If a girl shows the slightest interest you need to take advantage and move things forward. "Coffee is for closers," and you need to always have an end-goal in mind. Wanna sleep with her that night? Have that in your head the whole time and treat the whole interaction as a pathway to that end-goal. That way you'll steer it as …
/r/seduction10/12/17 05:38 AM
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No Contact only works when the lack of attention from you is more uncomfortable to her than your advances. This is why you should only do it once you've hooked her, and why it's most effective in bed. If all you got was a kiss, then all No Contact would do is give her enough freedom from you to just walk away enturely.
/r/seduction10/12/17 05:31 AM
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I'm a guy too, but I might suck someone's dick if they had a nice Rolex
/r/seduction10/12/17 05:28 AM
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First of all, realize the opener doesn't matter and you're golden. Second, try "Do I pronounce your name the usual way? Just wanna know for when I'm yelling it in bed later", since it's good for any name.
/r/seduction10/12/17 05:26 AM
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Approach whoever the fuck you wanna approach. The people saying "Stay in your lane" are either jealous that you'd approach someone better looking than you when they can't, or they're scared you'll surpass them
/r/seduction10/12/17 05:02 AM
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I can confirm keto is solid. Went on it for ~40 days and lost 30lbs (probably half of that was water weight, but still good). I would've continued to lose weight but I lost willpower near the end. Gonna try to go back on it once finals are over. While I agree it is a challenge to start, once you're a week or two in you'll feel amazing (especially if you're out of shape and unhealthy like me). You get more energy, you're less hungry, and you're dropping weight while doing so. (My diet consisted o…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/17 04:57 AM
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Don't worry about that. As far as you're concerned, this girl is done with you. Move on
/r/seduction10/12/17 02:34 AM
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Shes a knockout, fairly famous, and incredible, the more im learning bout her, the more im fascinated. But im like intimidated given the status difference.... Okay, you need to stop thinking about all these superficial boons she has going for her, and realize she's just a normal person. The quicker you take her down from the pedestal, the quicker you can attract her. Think about those traits that you like and compare her to those, not how many Instagram followers she has or how pretty she might …
/r/seduction09/12/17 11:44 PM
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First of all, don't overthink this. The whole point of a shit test is to see if you're nervous, not look for the right answer. Second, just answer honestly. Obviously don't say "I like girls like you", but say one or two personality traits you genuinely find attractive. Even better if they're vague enough you can qualify her (Adventurous, Loyal, Honest are good ones) by saying "I like girls who are X. Are you?" And if she answers yes, she's qualifying herself to be worthy of you. If she answers …
/r/seduction09/12/17 11:00 PM
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Move on. Completely. She rejected you because you were acting needy, so paying her any attention in the slightest will just prove that. Go after other girls and consider this one a lost cause. The best scenario you can hope for is by going after other girls and genuinely not caring about her, she might eventually come around, but even that's a very low chance. And it'll only happen if you Give. Up. On. Her.
/r/seduction09/12/17 10:52 PM
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Long distance relationships aren't real relationships. Go spend the energy you put towards phone sex towards having real sex instead
/r/seduction09/12/17 11:21 AM
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If you can't physically meet up, don't bother with her until you can
/r/seduction09/12/17 05:30 AM
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Qualifying them to be worthy of your attention. The same way that girls screen guys with shit tests and questions in order to make sure they're "worthy" of sleeping with them, you want to screen the girl you're talking to so she sees you are of a higher value and she has to earn your attention (obviously if you're trying to pull a girl, you've already preselected her as "worthy", but she shouldn't know that). Saying things like "Are you adventurous? I only hang around adventurous people" is an e…
/r/seduction09/12/17 03:33 AM
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Women are just people. Even the HB10 supermodels still shit, fart, and masturbate. Don't think of her as "the girl I'm trying to date", think of her as just some girl. It sounds like you're afraid of rejection. Every time you stammer, fumble your words, or generally act nervous it's because you're thinking "I can't mess this up. If I'm not cool she won't like me." The trick is to not care. That's it. Talk to her like you grew up together and can do anything around her without weirding her out. A…
/r/seduction09/12/17 02:34 AM
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"Hey, once finals are over let's grab a drink and unwind."
/r/seduction09/12/17 02:24 AM
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IOI's should be used to escalate in this regard. If a woman is touching you during conversation you should be escalating the physicality as far as you can take it, and by that point you know if she likes you or not, as does she. Show don't tell is very pertinent when you're escalating consistently and are able to move past just a friendly conversation, but I am giving advice for just talking to a girl and getting her number, where there is little escalation. So should I just check them out more …
/r/seduction09/12/17 02:18 AM
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How should I change then? Tell them they look cute that day? Pretty much. You seem to be going for more indirect game, which is fine. My usual motto is "I'd rather be rejected on the approach than on the first date," since a lot of girls will agree to hang out, but in a platonic way, and when you try to pull them/escalate they don't reciprocate since they never saw you as "sexual partner material". What you could do is just give them statements of intent when you initially approach ("You're cute…
/r/seduction08/12/17 10:47 PM
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Completely agree. Matched with what looked to be a HB7 on Tinder, went to her place, ended up walking out of a whale's home.
/r/TheRedPill08/12/17 09:56 PM
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It just means that right now she most likely sees you as a friend. Your interactions with her will be friend-to-friend, as this is the relationship you've built up. Even if she's attracted to you, this is still the social dynamic you two are in. If you were to suddenly start escalating, touching her or saying dirty things, she would most likely find these inappropriate, since now you're stepping out of the boundaries of a friend-to-friend dynamic (think about how you'd react if one of your plato…
/r/seduction08/12/17 09:53 PM
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Mostly just practice. Social skills behave like any other skills. The more you use them, the better you get. Being in university I'd just throw myself into social situations with people. Whether they went good or bad I'd learn and improve, then move on to the next one. I've also read books like How to Make Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie, and The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson, which both deal with social skills and confidence respectively.
/r/seduction08/12/17 09:41 PM
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wat
/r/seduction08/12/17 08:52 AM
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So just throw a ton a qualifying questions at her in my next paid webcam session with her? How do I skip to convincing her to accept my offer to fly her down to Iguazu Falls with me since it's peak season down in the southern hemisphere right now for the falls to be at their fullest? I just wanna stand there with her, don't wanna bang her. What you've just said right now confirms to me how needy you are to this girl. You've obviously developed oneitis for her, and she's using you for money becau…
/r/seduction08/12/17 01:24 AM
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First of all, don't overthink the possible IOIs she's giving you. She could very well be treating you the same friendly way as always, and you're just exaggerating it in your head. Whatever you do, don't get oneitis for this girl. That being said, since you've already hung around her in a presumably platonic way, it's going to be a bit tricky to just flip the tone to sexual on a dime. If she really likes you she might be responsive, but don't go burning bridges because of your erection. Just act…
/r/seduction08/12/17 12:58 AM
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how would you suggest I show value to HB9s and 10s without money? Well first of all, you need to understand that with 9s and 10s, they're used to guys trying to qualify themselves to them. The thing that guys that sleep with 9s and 10s do different is that they don't qualify thenselves. You show value by assuming that you're worthy and above them. Think of yourself like James Bond. James Bond doesn't have to qualify himself to girls for them to sleep with him. He's James Bond. He could be broke …
/r/seduction08/12/17 12:01 AM
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but what about the hot couple in the porn video I watched that said they met each other on a pay2cam site? Boyfriend and girlfriend. Probably actors. If not, just consider they're both pornstars, who tend to not follow conventional relationship rules. I also met an escort who met her army husband (not a rich playboy) when he was still her customer. Yeah, stuff like that can happen. But if he's in the army I would only assume he's either Alpha as fuck or being used as a sugar daddy. Either way, n…
/r/seduction07/12/17 11:00 PM
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No and No. First of all, don't be focusing on seduction in high school. Focus on building a social life and being able to talk to girls, sure, but don't go around using PUA moves on them. Go read How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie and learn from there. Second, never "seduce" girls online unless it's a dating app and they're near your location. The best you'll get out of an online relationship is a waste of time, and the worst is an even bigger waste of time. Meet girls in-p…
/r/seduction07/12/17 09:43 PM
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Well I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say she's fucking using you. You do realize that it's her job to act interested in guys for money, right? The second you stop paying her she'll forget all about you. All I'll say is move on. Stop paying for affection when you can go out and get it for free, and even have a remote chance of getting laid, too.
/r/seduction07/12/17 09:37 PM
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Nope. I either succeeded with what I was doing, or failed and learned from my mistakes.
/r/seduction07/12/17 06:43 AM
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My Breakdown of Escalation: Intent: Immediately state your intent. Tell her things like "I keep forgetting how cute you are", "Have you always been this hot or were you a nerdy girl growing up?", etc. Just anything that lets her know you're into her. Emotional Escalation: Start learning more about eachother. Ask her more and more personal questions, getting into her sex life and things that excite her/get her to feel emotions (she will associate these emotions with you, which is very good). Phys…
/r/seduction07/12/17 06:41 AM
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You are overthinking the everliving fuck out of this. First of all, if you wanted a sexual relationship with her you should have stated your intent immediately. If you went to a play with her and went back to her place it definitely sounds like she likes you to some capacity. And if you're posting here about her it sure doesn't sound like you "don't mind just being friends with her" Next time you see her, tell her how you feel. Just say "I think you're cute" and go from there. It sounds like you…
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:57 AM
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This isn't /r/rateme
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:37 AM
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Approach other girls. Go see that she's not special, you're just putting her on a pedestal. There's millions of girls just like, if not better than her, and you should see that just focusing on the one is narrowing your chances of success with a great girl that's not her. Again, books like No More Mr. Nice Guy go in depth on this subject, and you can pirate them download them right now.
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:35 AM
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Don't. Give. A. Fuck. You can't control how tall you are, so why bother caring about it. If a girl tells you you're too short, just laugh it off and keep going. They're not dismissing you because you're short, they're testing if you're insecure about being short.
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:27 AM
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You're thinking too much. Just say "let's go for drinks sometime, what's your number?" If she says yes, go from there. If she says no, try again in a week I case she was busy, then move on.
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:25 AM
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The answer to your question is irrelevant. You should be approaching her and flirting with her as soon as you see her. The only way you're going to find out if she likes you is by talking to her and seeing for yourself. If you get rejected, oh well, now you know the answer and life moves on. But if you don't, think of the possibilities that your future relationship could hold.
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:21 AM
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Stating your intent with a girl should be immediate. The longer you wait, the more she views you as "just friends". If you're really close with another girl then you shouldn't be flirting with girls in the first place, and if it's not serious enough to warrant monogamy then you should be stating your intent as soon as possible to establish your relationship as sexual, not friendly. To actually answer your question, it's different for every girl. It all depends on how many other options she has, …
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:18 AM
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Sounds like a classic case of oneitis. We've all been there, and I know it's hard, but all you can do is move on. If it took you 3 months to confess your feelings, then that's 3 months she spent putting you deeper in the "Just Friends" hole. No matter what happens, short of her getting amnesia and forgetting you ever met, you're just not gonna get her. Focus your time on improving yourself and getting better with girls and you can land a chick who is hotter, smarter, and has more in common with …
/r/seduction07/12/17 05:10 AM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction07/12/17 04:59 AM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction06/12/17 04:09 PM
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A lot of what they teach is in broad terms, since game is meant to be adapted differently by different people. Mostly it just comes down to lack of examples to show how to use it all in a real situation. I recommend watching their Hot Seat clips because of this. It's just them breaking down an interaction into these techniques and mindsets, to show how they're actually utilized with real-world examples
/r/seduction06/12/17 04:09 PM
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I highly recommend reading Models by Mark Manson, since it covers "being yourself" and how to use it to your advantage. Basically, just be open and honest, talk about whatever you're passionate about, and don't care whether or not the other person likes you. The key part of "being yourself" is having the confidence to not try to impress people or make them like you. Just do whatever makes you happy and they'll see the value in that
/r/seduction06/12/17 04:01 PM
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"Wear your insecurities as armor, so that they may never be used against you" Everyone's got something wrong with them. I'm too fat, others are too skinny, and even the bodybuilders with six pack abs look at themselves and think "I'm not good enough" We don't feel better when we achieve those impossible goals because... well they're impossible. We achieve them when we move the goalposts to reasonable levels. This is even easier for you since you can't change your height.You can only learn to acc…
/r/seduction06/12/17 03:55 PM
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If someone asks if you're a virgin it's most likely that they're testing you, so the response you give doesn't matter as long as it conveys you don't care either way. You could simply say No since it's technically true, you could say you've slept with over 500 women and act like that's normal if you want, or you could even tell the truth as long as you're confident in your answer (though you might want to play it up for laughs, maybe something like "I paid a prostitute for sex and only lasted 30…
/r/seduction06/12/17 03:31 PM
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Normally my commute is only ~20 minutes, which is why I usually don't go for bus pickup too often (the number closes I'd get would be real flaky), but this time I'd gotten to the station and the bus had pulled in way too early for some reason, so it was a 20 minute wait, then 20 minutes of commute.
/r/seduction06/12/17 03:12 PM
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I'm a dirty slut, I know.
/r/seduction06/12/17 03:01 PM
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It went surprisingly well. Girl jumped my bones as soon as I picked her up for a movie date. We ended up hooking up in my car in the back alley behind the theatre
/r/seduction06/12/17 02:47 PM
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