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| 2 | Why do so many women preach the importance of clear communication around sex then refuse to clearly communicate?Well said! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 11:24 AM |
| 1 | The idea of men needing to be "nice" really needs to die alreadyMaybe sex isn't that important as you're brainwashed to believe...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/24 12:20 PM |
| – | Women ask men to improve emotionally, yet their dating preferences often incentivize men to focus on material success and physical appearanceMy policy is to pursue material success (wealth) and physical appearance (health) and forget women entirely. These things are good for us men in and of themselves, regardless of whether women want them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 11:49 AM |
| 1 | The idea of men needing to be "nice" really needs to die alreadyI would turn the question the other way: Why should you (as a male) let some womens' tastes get in the way of you being nice? IMO nice people generally have a better life. They get on better with colleagues, they have fewer conflicts, they're physically safer (remember men are more likely to be victims of violence). Also less angry people have better heart health and live longer. I would say be as nice as you can and don't care about women judging that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 10:16 AM |
| 1 | CMV: A man isn't obligated to step in and save a woman from being mugged or assaulted.We should help if there's no immediate threat to life. You never know when you might need someone's help in return. What if that woman was a nurse and you found yourself in hospital under her care? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/24 01:01 PM |
| – | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.No one is interested. That's why many of us gave up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.There is no attention given in the first place because we know how it will be taken!!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 04:46 AM |
| – | Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL?There is a metric shit tonne of gaslighting, it's so horrible. Thanks for your support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:25 AM |
| – | Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL?Well first there need to be social venues for real cultural and skills learning with a range of age groups present and preferably some wise and competent mature men. No to dumb football games with loud shouty coaches who barely completed high school. Yes to group activities involving teaching, discussion and active participation and manipulating objects (physical or virtual). Youth should be in an environment kind of like a university, where they are free to explore topics at their own leisure f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:19 AM |
| – | Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL?I don't know that all societies were what we would call "monogamous". I believe there were societies (such as some Indigenous groups) where: A) not all women would have children, B) not all men would reproduce, C) children were considered "of the tribe", not nuclear family with specific parents This kind of society is neither monogamous nor polygamous. Actually it doesn't easily fit western black & white / dichotomous thinking. I'm not trying to say Indigenous peoples were wiser in every way, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 04:37 PM |
| 2 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.Yeah or write a new rulebook. I mean who knows, maybe one day women will start to want us again, but on different terms, with a different playbook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 04:33 PM |
| 3 | Society and women definitely equate being unable to attract a woman with being a loserBecause loser is about keen intelligence and a strong sense of what's going in around you. Did you mean write "is not about" ... etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 01:17 PM |
| 29 | Have you witnessed the 80/20 thing for women IRL?What's so irritating about these scenes is that they were often encouraged and even pushed on us by our elders or those in authority. We were left to figure out on our own how the real dating dynamics work, without any kind of explanation or insight. This is so opposite of how young men are supposed to be treated. In most cultures, up to the recent past, men lived similar to how their fathers lived, and they were taught about social mores by their elders. There were even elaborate rituals to emp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 01:12 PM |
| 3 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.Singlehood is the future for men. By becoming good at being single now you are positioning yourself ahead of the rest. It is inevitable that as social norms progress and gender becomes increasingly decoupled from reproduction, women will continue to define themselves increasingly independently of men. In future even the most elite, powerful, attractive men will be ignored and shunned, as women become so wealthy, independent and self-loving that the mere sight of a man induces immediate disgust a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 01:06 PM |
| 3 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.Jobs are different from women. There is very large demand for workers, with unemployment rates in the low single-digit percentages. The same cannot be said for womens' demand for male partners. One can be in shape, well dressed, have a good job and live in an area with many women and still not have any success for a number of compounding reasons including: Womens' high standards for height Womens' willingness to share a male partner rather than be monogamous Womens' extreme aversion to any kind … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:52 PM |
| 2 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.This is why many of us are opting out of women, it's a pointless competition most of us are bound to lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:50 PM |
| 3 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.How do you know that? Do you have any evidence that men are anywhere near as picky as women, both online and in person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.It does because it assumes many negative things about men in general. Whereas if it was tailored to a particular man, e.g. the OP, then it would only be assuming negative things about that one person, not about the whole gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:48 PM |
| 0 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.Even assuming dating didn't run the risk of "sexual assault" accusations, etc, there are few or no good environments in modern times for meeting women anyway. Most environments where any such meetings could have taken place have long ago been made illegal for those kinds of interactions (e.g. workplaces) and the rest (nightclubs, etc) have an extreme bias toward large, attractive, energetic, loud, risk-taking types of men who women find attractive for casual liaisons. This fact in itself (lack o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.If we're not prudish then we're accused of "harassment", "sexual assault", "predation" and worse. Damned if we do, damned if we don't! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:42 PM |
| 5 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.To even consider for a moment "how men might feel" about anything is avoided like the plague and any man who brings it up will be immediately accused of bigotry, patriarchy, misogyny, selfishness, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:39 PM |
| 0 | Dating advice for men is implicitly condescending.Agree with you. Modern narrative given to women: Ignore what men want or find attractive, it isn't relevant. Pursue whatever you want. You are immune from moral or ethical judgement. As a woman representing womens' empowerment, anything goes (as long as it doesn't harm other women). Modern narrative given to men: you are worthless and useless, society doesn't need you, it's a wonder we even let you live, your goal in life is to be as acceptable, pleasing and pandering as possible to every woman … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?There's all kinds of ways they can get cancelled, let me tell you, as someone who knew some professors types. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 06:05 AM |
| 3 | All love is transactional and some men simply have nothing to offerIMO a lot of women pursue relationships in a careerist manner, similar to how men pursue a job. But IMO real love (which can include friendship, not just romantic) is enjoyment of the other person simply as such. There is no sense of "progression" or needing something in exchange, as with career/income. For example I sometimes say Hi to my neighbour or just enjoy seeing them around. I have no expectation from them and there is no particular quality I like in them. I just enjoy the fact that they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 01:53 PM |
| 10 | All love is transactional and some men simply have nothing to offerI think we all know what love is, but we also all know when we're unloved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 01:51 PM |
| 34 | Men's romantic success depends on their ability to succeed at patriarchy and capitalismMen can get away with being soft gentle kind and loving, so long as they are also tall, high status and powerful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?European/Western culture prioritising nuclear family and decentralised society. Similar story with Chinese/Confucian culture, but in that case, extended family, ancestor worship and more centralised society. It was related to mass agriculture. Europe - wheat, China - rice. These societies were good at producing large populations but that doesn't mean they were superior in every way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 08:03 AM |
| 1 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?No it's not, it's social conditioning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Well I'm trying to promote it for men too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Spreading the word on Reddit etc. start small, it can grow into a major trend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 02:13 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Womens' sexual market strategies only involve the top 1% of men, so wouldn't women actually prefer that the other 99% don't bother them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:45 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?A lot of big ideas start out from just a few people or even one person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:44 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Aren't women always complaining about desperate men making unwanted advances to them? Making single trendy might help eliminate that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:43 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I sure hope you're right! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 04:54 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?No it's not because they're "weird", there are specific things they lack: Popularity within the womans' pre-existing social network Height and good looks Social status Calling them "weird" would imply that they are significantly different from average, but actually, based on the above measures, they can be fairly average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 03:32 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Thanks and yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 03:30 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Their partners. Look up intimate partner violence / domestic violence statistics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 03:30 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?women want attractive and desirable men, who have a lot of options, to get into monogamous relationships. Do women really want relationships though? It seems like a lot of women are happier single. Also if most men are unattractive for unalterable genetic reasons – and if most women know this – then women should prefer that those unattractive men don't pursue them. So it seems to me to be in womens' interest that single unattractive men should be happy to be single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 03:29 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?How do you know what people's sexual appetites are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 03:19 PM |
| 3 | There’s really no point to every man doing self-improvement because women have relativist attraction. There will always be a hierarchy of reshuffling winners and losers even if men have objectively raised the floor.How about human beings should offer general respect to each other? I was fine with that until every corporate and media outlet started blasting in unison "female empowerment" and "women in leadership" and "girl boss" and blah blah blah Women started the 2010-2020s gender wars. Even the way men disparage each other by comparing them to women or women's reproductive bits. ("Don't be a girl/bitch/pussy." "Grow some balls." Or even "Emotional tampon." when sponge would work just fine - but dudes jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Neither gender is more socially skilledAgree. There are "social skills" and there are "social skills". One thing social skills are surely not is a specific narrow set of prescribed and predictable behaviours. Saying exactly the right things to the right people isn't necessarily socially competent. In some groups it could be considered "acting like a doormat" or "fake". Saying things that some people dislike but that influence them nonetheless and that win you passionate supporters can be a type of social competence, one where a man's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Most of unrealistic beauty standards are imposed on women by other womenThey do it for the top 1% of elite men, those mens' standards are (obviously) limitless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:45 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:39 PM |
| – | What do you think the future of feminism is in the west ?Not just west, every society. Men are half of most populations of humans that I've ever heard of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:36 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Truth! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:35 PM |
| 4 | There’s really no point to every man doing self-improvement because women have relativist attraction. There will always be a hierarchy of reshuffling winners and losers even if men have objectively raised the floor.I agree, but saying "women should respect men" gets a lot of backlash from women these days. We're apparently all monsters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:34 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?The corporate media paints us as losers. This need to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:32 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?„Well men, we don’t want anything to do with you … now go and be happy about that? Yeah pretty much. I mean women apparently didn't have any trouble with the following: Well men, we don't want your children, we're voting for abortion Well men, we don't want your attention, we're going to have you locked up for "harassment" whenever you express your sexuality without specifically-worded consent Well men, we don't want you to take masculine pride in your work, so we're going to force you to hire s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:31 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?It's funny how I'm a troll for making a small obvious observation. I hope a few women see this thread and are influenced to spread my idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:26 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Thanks for speaking the real truth that feminists lie and conceal! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?It's not most womens' choice but it's also not most mens' fault. Men are better suited for many jobs because those jobs require masculinity and many women are too feminine in the way they carry themselves, their mental attitude to hard work, etc. Now it's fine if women want to become more masculine and enter male fields, but that's not like some switch that they can easily flip. It would take some time and effort. I'm happy to support women in this transition, but let's be honest, they will prob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:12 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I don't care about "most women", what I care about is the popular narratives that predispose how people perceive me. I would like to be perceived as "acceptable" not as some kind of weird or dangerous misfit just because of my relationship situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 01:00 PM |
| -4 | Most women don't even need to go through a "hoe phase" for the 80/20 dynamic to happenFor women "hoe phase" is like what "turning the light switch on or off" is for men.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:58 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?We can all be gentlemen, not just a tiny corrupt elite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:56 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I agree up until about the last 30 years, after modern feminism the narrative has really changed. Women are now considered more valuable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:55 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Well I agree with "self improve", so a big part of that is letting go of the feeling of "needing" a woman - any woman. They need to focus on building their human capital and wealth and managing their mental health through meditation, etc. I see precious little encouragement of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:54 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Those former Tzar wastelands are hardly a model for "civilisation". In fact that will be the future of the West if we don't integrate new populations. The big lie: we are different. Elites use it to control and divide us. By buying into ethnocentrism/essentialism you only support the woke "manufactured opposition" which will destroy the west if left unchecked. Big truth: we are all the same. Anyone can be Chinese, anyone can be Indian. You just have to think different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:48 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I mean in political discussions on Reddit and elsewhere I want to see more posts by women which are praising or at least supporting the idea that it's Ok for men to be single and that single men can be respectable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:46 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?You feminist women have a strong shared narrative that binds you together across cultures, languages, seemingly even continents (look at all the Zoom calls during covid with armies of female academics all nodding their heads and agreeing that we need to inject everyone with the vaccine). Look I'm not saying it's a bad thing, humans be humans. Actually it's positive to have so much pro-sociality for at least half the species. But I do envy you, as a man, since I wish we had that kind of shared so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:43 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?IMO we're better off single as men, but societal media mass man-bashing would have us think otherwise..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:41 PM |
| 0 | I'm tired of people saying that divorce is good for kids.Single Childless women aren't needed by anyone. Have you checked the date month and year? We're in the 2020s... women are literally the most valuable humans on the planet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:39 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?How do women want men to improve? Growing taller through will power? Voting democrat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:38 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?If women are going to reject men, those men can't help being single. So what are you going to do with them? Telling them hateful bigoted narratives about how inferior they are probably isn't going to be good for social cohesion................ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:36 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Grover Cleveland was probably the sanest America ever had. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:35 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Well put! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:34 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Minority is the keyword here, not men. Most men aren't going around shooting people up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:34 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?They don't want to play fair, they just want to hurt men it seems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:33 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?BTW Africans are learning Chinese, google it... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:32 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Yes, I'm sure if the whole of Nigeria moves to Norway, the culture of Norway will not change one iota. You are so clueless.... have you never set foot outside your former slave ranch in b***f***k Georgia???? I worked with Nigerians in UK, lovely people, they speak better English than a lot of of you b***d Americans.. You can't perpetuate your civilization with someone else's children. It's already happening, and buckle up buddy, cos it's gonna happen 100x more. And then guess who's going to be s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:31 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?At least an occasional post on r/feminism or anywhere actually would be nice. I've lived over 30 years and not seen one single woman publicly praising the idea of men being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:23 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Cherry-picked "facts" from a feminizi woke website | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:22 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?This 1000% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:21 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Line goes up mentality. Just because the line goes up that doesn't mean it's inherently a good thing. Economics is there to serve the civilization. If it doesn't, then it's a bad thing. Indians I know are moving back to India, they find it has improved considerably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:20 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Idgaf about caring. What one does is what matters. And those who choose to be childless refuse to contribute to the future of the civilization beyond their selfish self. You are full of racism. Civilisation is cultural not genetic. If you care about the future you should be staying single and helping us empower the next generations of SE Asias and Africans who also deserve human rights and high living standards!!! Sure, they should have this option (I'm not advocating for forced insemination or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:19 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?It's not hate. It's placing a higher concern for the well-being of my civilization over the well-being of hedonistic selfish people (because that's exactly what childless people are, overwhelmingly). Absolute bunk! We work harder and longer than you do – no stay at home wifey or government subsidies or over-leveraged mortgage to fall back on. You are the hedonists, ignorantly giving in to your desires to copulate. Then domineering and abusing your poor children, leaving them with years of trauma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:16 PM |
| 15 | Most women don't even need to go through a "hoe phase" for the 80/20 dynamic to happenthe bitter normie rejects I love seeing us re-appropriate the concept of "normie". Yes indeed! Actually we the majority are the "normie" men. The men who women crave are the minority actually. (Also... yes we start out bitter... but not so bitter once we make it to our 30s with some money and some freedom!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 12:06 PM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?More like just money, but now they can get that money without men, so they don't need anything from us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:59 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Even when they have welfare and diversity hiring (which I'm not against BTW, but just saying, it exists) they still want men to feel guilty or weird for being single. But why shouldn't men be single in this state of affairs? It would only be fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:59 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Your "big picture" is classist, Eurocentric and misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:58 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?It's sad how we humans collectively ostracised our greatest specimens... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:56 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I think you're overly generalising your experience with the Army and social networks around that. Ironically you make me want to join the military, since by how you word your reply, it tells me people are more classic "civil rights" oriented there which is more sane IMO. I think you are clueless specifically on how crazy both woke and alt-right have messed up the rest of the society outside the military... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:53 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Yes, it's so negative and hypocritical and two-faced! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:52 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Yes that's right. As investors we are funding the future while 40 yo with 3 kids is just consuming everything and not adding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:51 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Yes if anything, we have a bigger stake in the future, since we can't hide behind children/wife. We are directly exposed to society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:50 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Dude why the hate for single/childless people? Have you seen the statistics? This is an increasing segment of the population. Also absolute BS that we don't have a stake in the future. I know many people in this category who care a great deal about how the world around them is. Actually maybe they even care more than married/parents since they don't have immediate family to protect them after their parents die, so they need the society around them to be functional. Many of us are helping train t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:49 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Wow I wish I could 10x upvote this. I don't totally agree with your points but man you bring up some interesting topics. I do agree that there is a lot of "boomer cultural hangover" in the West right now. It's almost suffocating... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:46 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Yes, and women have a powerful voice now, so they can hopefully spend 1% of that voice telling single men that it's Ok to be single. I don't see how that's not in womens' collective self interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:44 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Social "skills" as you naively put it isn't an individual thing. We are a social species. The reason you think some of us lack social skills is that actually we are socially ostracised, alienated and despised. We actually probably have better social skills than you do, but you just don't see that, because you're the popular prestigious ones right now... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:43 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Academics are fearful to speak the truth, for the threat of losing their tenure, prestige etc. But they know what's going on and some brave ones are stepping up. Prepare to see more papers like these. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:40 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?They're treated as weird and "incels" and there's this whole trope about incel men being terrorists, even though only a tiny tiny tiny fraction, literally like 100 men or something, actually did anything violent. If you count the numbers of violent offences, it's more likely that partnered men are being violent than incel men!!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:38 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Women weren't everywhere and always oppressed. Look at Chinese female emperors and matriarchies in Africa and ancient South America. Also most men were oppressed, e.g. look at the feudal system in Europe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:36 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Women seem pretty united everywhere I see/hear them. It seems to me like men are the ones who are being fragmented, outcompeted and abandoned in this cruel modern age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:35 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I agree with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:34 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Then you Americans need to fix your electoral system, this is the problem. You can't blame all your problems on "men" and "patriarchy"... which BTW is a tiny minority of elite men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:33 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I don't think it was always victimhood but these days it feels like they went too far in that direction. Basically at this point they're free to persecute men in any way they wish and it's socially acceptable because "patriarchy". That seems unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:30 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?You sound like you had a different life experience than me. Ok maybe I need to join my country's military, maybe people are more sane there. Here's what I've experienced as a civilian: Corporate upper and senior management drivelling on for 5 minutes + on a Zoom call bragging about their wife and kids and how much purpose and meaning it gives them.... blah blah blah... so aggravating! Pop culture and presidents are relevant because women do most of the consuming and also much of the voting and g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:28 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I really do get that vibe sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:23 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I'm not asking you to sort our problems (though of course it would be nice if you had even tiny concern about the other 50% of the population but anyway...) All I'm asking you is to stop making the social pressure to be partnered up, which some women certainly do, especially mature age women in a position of authority in the family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:22 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Well it's kind of uncanny how fast women seem to make friends and network at college, family gatherings, etc. There is some kind of "female solidarity" that we men just don't have any equivalent of these days. (We did have it back in the 50s and earlier, I hope we can rekindle some of that.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:20 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?That's right. And I don't mind women having all that power, actually it's cool that we progressed this far as a society. But I'm just saying, women, please use your power for good, and don't actively hurt men with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:19 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I don't 100% know if they hate us, but I don't understand why they push this double-standard: Never approach women, or make eye contact, it's harrassment If you're a single man, you're a weird, creepy, misfit, incel, etc. and should occupy a lower social rank and be more heavily taxed Like really ... get your act together ladies! If you want men to leave you alone, then please state that loud, clear an unambiguously! I'm not asking for any special treat or handout... just not to be treated as so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:18 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Women are in charge of massive media and marketing campaign and hold the consumer purse strings. Look I'm not totally against a women-led corporate oligarchy. All I'm asking for, as a single man, is not to be ridiculed and hated on. Not to be treated as a social pariah or outcast just because women chose to reject me. That's what this post is about. Is it so unfair? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?That's right! But they are so prejudiced they can't even see past their prejudice! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:14 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Well since women are 50% of the US population and more likely to vote at all... It begs the question... Why wasn't Kamala Harris already US President 10 years ago? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:13 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Agree, and given the latest crop of "leaders" in the US, UK, etc I think we can safely say that those "vouched for" men (on both sides) are not necessarily higher quality! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:12 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Why would men pressure other men to partner up? What's the incentive? It would just make the dating market more competitive. Men have every incentive to support other men being single! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:11 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I bet it's mostly women who are voting these days, since the democratic system seems to favour them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:11 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I'm standing up for men right here in this post, so thanks for supporting my effort! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:10 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?This post is me doing the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:09 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Yes, there's some truth to this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:09 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?It's true the same people need to lay off women as well, I don't deny that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Does it make sense now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:08 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Agree, it's very double-sided and hypocritical to attack men being single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:07 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?A lot of adult and mature women are treating single men as weird and popularising the culture where men are expected to be married. I'm not saying only women do this, some conservative male political figures do it. But at least women should pull their part of the weight. The reward for women making singleness acceptable is that they won't be bothered so much by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:06 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?It's not men who are pressuring fellow men to partner up. It's older women, typically mothers, aunts and also some conservative popular figures. It would help a lot if feminist women of all age groups could consistently spread the message that women are not interested in men and that it's both acceptable and preferable for most men to be single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:04 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Makes sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:03 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?I'm so glad I'm not on TikTok and never was. Sounds like a hellhole for men! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:02 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?https://www.psypost.org/pro-female-and-anti-male-biases-are-more-influential-than-race-and-other-factors-in-implicit-association-tests/ https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10179483/1/Landmark%20study%20of%20gender%20bias%20J%20Barry%202023.pdf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:01 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Absolutely 100% truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 11:00 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?You can write that here behind an anonymous account but who knows how you really feel about men your real life? In real life my experience is women generally distrust and avoid men. I'm not judging women for this, it makes sense biologically/evolutionarily. But I just want women to acknowledge it collectively and then stop pressuring men in all kinds of ways to pursue. Just let men be alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:58 AM |
| 1 | I'm tired of people saying that divorce is good for kids.Agree, and sometimes this means stepping back and not intervening! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:57 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Which part makes no sense please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:24 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Just stop pressuring men to partner up. Literally stop expending the effort! It's not fathers and uncles who are applying this pressure... I think women, especially older women, need to stop trying to control us! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:22 AM |
| – | Why aren't women collectively promoting singleness as acceptable for men?Why speed dial? Just use your natural group-think and hive-mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:21 AM |
| 22 | There’s really no point to every man doing self-improvement because women have relativist attraction. There will always be a hierarchy of reshuffling winners and losers even if men have objectively raised the floor.Women generally don't like men at all. Even the more "attractive" men are really just used for their money, prestige or as an emotional tampon. Women don't respect men at all (I'm not saying women should respect men, but just stating that as a matter of fact). Don't waste your time improving for women - you're fighting a losing battle on that front. Invest time improving your quality of life - money, education, physical fitness, health. Those investments at least give you a return. Life is short… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 09:56 AM |
| – | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileNo, we don't all need hugs and physical touch. I have gone years at a time without any of that, and those have been some of the happiest and best years of my life. We certainly don't need hugs and touch from women. Especially if those come with all sorts of dire pitfalls and dangers, e.g. losing half your money. We men can hug eachother. There's nothing strange about that. Watch movies from the 50s so-called "conservative" culture, men were constantly shaking hands and hugging eachother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 09:54 AM |
| 0 | I'm tired of people saying that divorce is good for kids.I am pro-divorce,but lets be honest you're not doing it for the kids , you're doing it for yourself Isn't there some statistics showing that women are happier single than partnered? Maybe it's not for the kids, maybe it's for the mum. Ever considered that? There are some exceptions for example when there is abuse going on Isn't there some statistic showing that 99.99% of men are abusers and pedofiles? Or do you only use those statistics when it's convenient for you? (E.g. when you feel like bash… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 09:52 AM |
| 2 | I've found that, contrary to what women say, one's ability to be friends with women and one's ability to be romantic with them are unrelatedHahahaha I feel you. But I think this is worth mentioning just so incels don't feel like such losers. Honestly sex is overrated, especially when the woman is using it for emotional and/or financial manipulation. If I had to choose I'd take money over sex anyday. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 04:39 AM |
| 2 | I've found that, contrary to what women say, one's ability to be friends with women and one's ability to be romantic with them are unrelatedAlso it's underreported how women mistreat the hookup men. We assume those men are "lucky", "fortunate", "privileged", etc. Actually as a man it's not nice to be used as a woman's sex slave and otherwise dehumanised. Then threatened with rape allegations, etc. if you dare stay a wrong word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Childless people should not date single parentsCase by case IMO. I can understand a single parent wanting an additional adult figure in the child's life than just them. But of course one has to be careful who one chooses for that role. What would be more ideal though, IMO, is for the child to be in a community of adults, where they could interact with a variety of personalities and absorb some kind of culture. Maybe (heaven forbid if it's not too much for leftist feminists to tolerate) they might even get to feel a little pride in their own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:10 AM |
| 5 | Male sexlessness should be taken about as seriously as the orgasm gap.Maybe less experience in a man is even better since the man is more fresh and open to the woman's uniqueness, carrying less preconceived notions or assumptions. (Just to show you I'm not biased, I'm very experienced, probably more than I really should be. So according to my argument, I'm less attractive.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 11:03 AM |
| – | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Being needy is weakness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 08:23 AM |
| 1 | Men NEED sex. The use of prostitution should be normalized, legalized, and recommended for struggling men.This "need" is socially constructed. In some Ancient indigenous cultures men didn't all have sex and even those who did were just used for sex by the women a few times so they could conceive and then rejoined the other men and lived otherwise normally. What we need is a more single-friendly society for both men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:34 AM |
| 2 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreExactly, people seem to think that just because something was normal in the past it should be mandatory in the present. But we do not live in "normal" times. And anyway history is full of people changing their behaviour radically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreVery very true! It's heartbreaking to read of some women in relationships who feel lonely, due to lack of emotional intimacy or abuse of some kind. People can feel lonely even in a large group if they feel misunderstood or insignificant in that group. And many guys seem reluctant to socialise. I offered so many to join my Discord group for single guys and only a small % agreed. We are a small group and growing, but so many men are just avoiding it. It's a pity because we could all benefit from h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 02:46 AM |
| 6 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreTrue, and society also treats us that way. Replaceable anonymous cogs in a vast machine. There are advantages to being replaceable and anonymous. You have less responsibility and less threats in a way, and it's easier to live a "quiet" (low-drama) life. But this means that we men need to get together and form social groups where we are valued and are treated as unique individuals. I've started a 100% online Discord-based group for single men, and you're welcome to join. DM me for details. 5 guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Why do people think it’s so wrong to pay a sex worker for sex?The dating market is f'd up IMO, that's why I avoid it. But I think in business there are opportunities. Business is very corrupt and messy, but there are still opportunities if you're persistent and flexible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Why do people think it’s so wrong to pay a sex worker for sex?Lol idk why humans always think they’re so much better than animals, especially chimps and bonobos. We’re all primates. When did I say "better"? Each animal has its nature. Humans being have human nature. We're not chimps. What makes us different is only our bigger brains and how far we’ve come with creating and using tools. Cultural evolution (The Secret of our Success by Joseph Henrich). Actually some primates are faster than us at certain specific activities, but what they lack is culturally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Why do people think it’s so wrong to pay a sex worker for sex?And yes supposedly it’s safer to see some sex workers than it is to just be casually hooking up with randos, as long as you are wearing a condom of course. Well yeah as long as you're not Elliot Spitzer. Hahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Why do people think it’s so wrong to pay a sex worker for sex?Among primates though: https://gainweightjournal.com/insights-on-leadership-from-chimp-alpha-male-behavior/ Sorry I can't help but laugh 😂 We are using chimps as models for leadership???? Can you see how ridiculous this is on the face of it? If your "leadership skills" are to behave like a zoo animal then your followers are pathetic. Or (more likely) you're the one who's a big joke and your followers are just using you like a tool. Someone who pretends to act like a chimp to get lots of follower… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Why do people think it’s so wrong to pay a sex worker for sex?Winning doesn't make you "alpha". This idea of "alpha" is a social construct, IMO it's totally based on approval by others. Being "alpha" is actually the sh****tiest job since you're constantly scrambling to meet the fickle and stupid expectations of others and can lose it all in a moment. This is why many intelligent people such as Warren Buffet prefer to lie low and not care about being popular. They choose to be "zeta" because it's a nicer lifestyle. Also BTW wolf studies show that wolves don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:20 PM |
| 6 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreBut what if no woman wants to have your kid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 09:50 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?You give up too quickly. The movement is still small. When it gains momentum and becomes a cultural force, men everywhere will turn to eachother for support. I think it'll be great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?You are an exception, an abnormality and if I could choose to be like you I would. How do you know you can't be like me? Guys do still touch eachother in handshakes, I see guys, not just my friends dab eachother up all the time. But that will never be enough. It's a start, if we did it more it might be enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:38 AM |
| 10 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreAnyone can donate to charity, sponsor a child, etc. It's easier than ever to be a provider if that's what you want. But I question whether men need to be providers, I think the "provider" model is a caricature and oversimplification of human relations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:37 AM |
| 7 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreThose men who committed rape behaved like pigs. To say they "needed" that sex would be too forgiving of their misdeeds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 01:59 PM |
| 45 | Men and women don't really need each other anymoreAgree. Not only do women not need men, they actively avoid men. And on mens' side, I think much of the "desperation" is just social pressure to have a female partner. Most men do not actually need a woman. Men are capable of getting their needs met without women (yes, including sex, there are such things as masturbation, porn and have been for centuries). Our society stressed us out by sending contradictory messages. Stoking gender wars while trying to force us together through social pressure. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 04:51 AM |
| 2 | Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid.Reddit isn't too bad, I've learned some useful things here. The problem is more the content than the medium. On Reddit when people sometimes complain, ruminate, fight eachother, etc. it's not productive. So we need to have better quality conversations where we actually get somewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 04:17 AM |
| 3 | Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid.Thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 04:15 AM |
| -2 | Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid.You have to be patient, self improvement that's worthwhile doesn't happen fast. Your desire for physical intimacy is all in your head, you can think otherwise. "Humans are social" yes but in all kinds of ways. E.g. this forum is a social experience. You're being social by writing this post. If you work hard on worthwhile self improvement goals (like valuable sought-after skills, emotional balance, physical fitness, etc) then it won't go un-noticed and you will get benefits and opportunities. I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 05:20 PM |
| 6 | Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid.Scarcity is a mindset IMHO more than a reality. You can feel anxious / depressed about scarcity of anything. There are finance forums where people panic about being poor. There are weight loss forums where people panic about being overweight. There are moving abroad forums where people panic about wanting to leave their home country. You have to take the good with the bad and try to improve what you can. Play to your strengths. I have an abysmal social life by average standards, but I am above-a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 05:17 PM |
| 8 | Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid.This is why we need to come together as men and build male-only communities. Women have been doing this since time immemorial. Elite men do this, it's called "the patriarchy". Ordinary middle class and lower class men don't do this enough. We all need to network, communicate and form social circles. If we support eachother, give eachother confidence boosts, share knowledge and tips, etc. then this will actually level the dating market, as fewer and fewer men pursue women out of desperation for v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 05:08 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Every single man can immediately significantly increase his desirability to women by rescuing cats and kittens.Thanks for sharing your story. I feel sad reading this thinking that hurt animals are being cared for by hurt people. Not because it's wrong, it's a wonderful thing that you do/did. But what I wish is for some small amount of state funding to be put toward organised, professional care of these animals. And for people such as yourself to get good stable careers and jobs and be able to live comfortably. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 03:11 PM |
| 1 | What is your end game?What you believe becomes your reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:48 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?Almost all of these I actually have done / are doing hahahahahah And I'm not even ugly per-se, but just not traditionally attractive (cute feminine face, average height, tenor voice) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:47 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?I feel like women aren't attracted to men generally at all. Actually when I listen to how all-female groups talk about men I sometimes get the impression women are just plain scared of us. This is an oddly comforting thought if true, because it means that my feeling of unattractiveness to women isn't some fatal flaw in me, but a very common and ordinary part of the human experience. Of course I don't wish women to feel fear, I wish we lived in a world where they felt safe always. But the fact th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:44 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?This said, decenter romance from my life. Treating it as a (very) nice to have but not a must. Neediness is a turnoff in attractive men, let alone in the unattractive I hear this a lot from men and women. In itself I think it's true. However I wonder if it's possible to take it too far. The ultimate non-neediness in a man would manifest as, e.g. to never make eye contact, to never approach, to never ask them out, to never compliment their looks, to never initiate contact, etc. But this extreme s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:42 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?I know I'm objectively unattractive facially. I have a fairly narrow palate, which makes my face a bit longer and my upper-face a bit narrower than it should be. I also have a giant brow ridge (like a neanderthal or Jason Momoa) and roundish yin sanpaku eyes (with the white showing on the bottom). You're candid and self-effacing, this attitude is pleasant and appealing. According to one book I've been reading, research shows that men who fit the "prestige" social position tend to be both self-ef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:33 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?Upvote for honesty lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Kindness? Mate, not sure in what wonderland you live in but escorts are anything but kind. I found them very warm and friendly and kind. You should also learn to accept kindness from others. This is not as easy as it sounds – it involves some relaxing of the ego. You have to accept that you are in want of a favour, and thus, show a little vulnerability. The flip-side is accepting that you are worthy of a favour, which is a nice and constructive feeling. I admit that I'm on a journey to develop t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?That'd be a good thing. Who could possibly even argue otherwise? I agree, I'm really on board with this idea. I'm working to form a club for 100% single men where we share love and support and help eachother achieve happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:53 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?It's pretty much me too. Life can be very fun without women I believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:52 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?Focus on getting money. Nice strategy! I've been doing the same. It sucks that some men will seem to be attractive and will make more money. However, A) those men might not keep their money or relationship if their wives tire of them or they lose social status, B) if their success is due to luck then it's no cause for envy, C) if their success is due to hard work or skill then they're to be admired. (You can see how Stoicism influences my thinking here.) Instantly start paying for prostitutes I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:49 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?I feel the same way bro. BTW I hope you'll join my Discord group; I'll send you an invite. Thanks for your comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?You want me to go on Pro Male Masturbation parades holding up signs encouraging men to jerk themselves off? No, I was just curious to see how you might feel about unattractive single men feeling happy with their lives and not desperate for a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:34 PM |
| – | Men, how would your life be different if you knew you would never be attractive?Why? How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:25 PM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I would ask you not to give up too soon on escorts. I would think (and have experienced as a client a few times) that female escorts generally will try to serve the customer well, since they want to do their job well and earn repeat business where possible. Especially someone who mainly wants to hug and kiss, you would be almost the perfect customer for many escorts, in fact I believe some might give you a few free sessions just from kindness. But that said personally I found other ways to feel … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I'm organising a 100% online group of single men on Discord where we encourage and build eachother up, share knowledge and ideas and support eachother through tough times. Please feel free to DM me for more information. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Ok bro, I am an older millenial myself, I am 33 years old, and because I had been touched deprived and lacked intimacy basically my whole life, my whole mental state is fucked. I'm sorry that you have a very difficult mental state. If you're definitely sure that it's due to touch deprivation specifically, then by all means you should seek out touch by any (legal and safe) means necessary. Perhaps there are therapists who can help you with this, or perhaps sex workers. I am sure that a sex worker… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I disagree that it's possible that you can touch yourself so much that it will cure your loneliness or touch deprivation. Ok let's assume you're correct. But would it be a good thing if it were possible? For example, if there was some scientific breakthrough that enabled single men to not feel lonely or touch deprived, then would that be a good thing? Would you champion it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:53 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?What on earth has led you to believe that chronically single men aren't touching themselves or masturbating? I think single men are touching themselves, I never claimed they aren't. I just think that they're hardly doing it – meaning by far not doing it enough. By focussing more attention on self-touch, they could feel happier and more whole in the moment, and lose the desire to pursue women. Wouldn't it be nice if all humans could feel happy and whole? (Sorry if that positive wish is an "incel … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?It would really suck to go for even days without that, nevermind, months or years. The studies seem totally in line with common sense, while you seem unable to human correctly. I've been going for decades without it and doing just fine. Maybe you're being overly judgemental and cruel to those, such as me, who are lower on the totem pole than you are. Picking on the weak just for the sake of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I'm glad that you have friends of 30 years who you get to see on a regular basis and hug a lot. I just suspect that there might be some guys (myself included) who don't have that kind of man-man friendship in their life. Those guys could probably benefit from such a friendship. With a reliable, predictable consistent level of platonic touch, men as a whole can be less needy of women, which seems like a desirable state of affairs for both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I'm pretty serious, I think gay male sex is more fun anyway. Men want different things from sex than women do. This results in confusion and heartbreak for both IMO. Now that it's the 21st century and we're (somewhat) free from the shackles of biology, we can go for relationships that are more sexually satisfying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:37 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Strange choice on your part ... to learn from a lower-status person like me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Touching your own body is not the same thing as loving touch from another person. Well I found my own touch during long masturbation sessions to be quite a bit superior to what I had experienced from previous sex partners. For men like me who are unattractive to women, well cultivated self-touch might be a good substitute. Since women complain so much about unwanted interest from men, shouldn't women, such as yourself, be all in favour of low-status beta males like me keeping to ourselves and us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Then touching other men platonically shouldn't be so awkward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?It's all valid dude, chill. I hike a lot, I do mad calisthenics, also swim, run, you name it. But we should expand our repertoire as men. We should do yoga, stretching. We should spend longer time masturbating. BTW the above activities will also help us increase male-male attraction, which helps us to become gay. All men should ideally become gay because it's clear women don't want us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?All the best with that! Also, just so you know I'm not too patriarchal, I'm looking into women authors on mindfulness too such as Ellen Langer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Yes I believe in all of that too. John Kabatt Zinn talks about naming emotions and doing the body scan and yoga. I basically agree with all this and this is all included when I say "meditation". Also we need to examine the emotions for insight. This is how we truly escape and transcend. Emotions in a way are like higher math, you understand by representation then by abstraction then by transformation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?How do you recommend addressing it then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Yep sad and so hypocritical! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 07:11 PM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Your communication skills are really tops. Hats off to you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Bitter about what sorry? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Have you tried? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Yes that's right! Women do it all the time, why shouldn't men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?You can do things that put you in a different mind state. People do this all the time to cope with loss, grieving, pain, etc. Have you ever tried breathing deeply in a public place and feeling connected to everything and everyone? Totally transforms the experience. Suddenly you're part of the cosmos. It's mind-blowing. It does take a bit of inner work to transform feelings but it can be done. I recommend the writings of John Kabatt Zin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:12 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Dude please... this is... kinda creepy. Imagine you're a woman reading this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?You make a good point. Where it gets tricky for me as a man is... How should I behave to be a good feminist man? 10 schools of thought... 10 different answers. Some of them contradictory. If I'm to be unjustly accused of sexism, mysogyny, etc. at least I should be partly forgiven for being confused! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Thanks, I'm reading this some more, this is a very insightful post. I honestly think men have forgotten how to be men. However, this is not due to feminism, its more the cultural shift from when men used to work in rural areas before urban areas became a thing. No longer do men grow up, ploghing the fields with their fathers, just having wisdom passed onto them. You're right, it's a different kind of game being a man. Now, going back to rural lifestyle is a not going to happen, there needs to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Like I said, I don't think any women want to be friends with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?"It's Ok to be single" campaigns directed at men Straight-to-gay conversion therapy for all men who want it, free of charge UBI so men don't have to work horrible energy-sapping jobs, most of our economy is already automated anyway, working men deserve some time off Immediate mandatory equal wages for women and men across all governments and corporations Abortion 100% legal everywhere Cheap housing for everyone , and if there's not enough supply, then make it legal for people to live in their ow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?And for the record, I am not some mythical Chad either, just an average guy. They will probably harass an average guy even more because they think they're entitled to it, since they consider us lower class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Again how many feminist do you actually know in real life? I don't have many women in my life period, so I guess none. Partly due to behaviour I described above, I feel like most women don't want to be within a 10 km radius of me, and frankly I feel the same way. That's not feminism. And I highly doubt you've run into a feminist saying that it is. Of course they're not going to come right out and advocate man-hatred, that wouldn't be a good look for anyone, let alone a feminist. Dude you are onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Well I'm glad feminists like you still exist. I think maybe the feminist institution needs to organise and structure itself a bit, as it seems there are some different factions emerging. It seems to me like some branches of feminism are going out of their way to try and hurt men by pushing some BS like men need to be a relationship or single men are somehow suspicious, etc. etc. I don't know what other motive that has other than to just meanly pick on single unnattractive-to-women men like me. (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I don't think women being rude is a feminist paradise. I guess it depends which feminist I ask doesn't it? Hahaha Anyway I guess all feminists will agree that it's fine to be rude and horrible to men only. I don't know what is wrong with Sydney but I've never seen women (or men) acting that way, anywhere. Yeah I don't know either, it's not this bad in other places like London, New York. I feel like US feminism is a bit softer, more like "let's get free stuff and political power and exploit men a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I agree with you but I also make this kind of post to trigger feminists who try to push this narrative that we need women when in fact we don't (especially when we cultivate real friendships among men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?4. They're pretty fucked on this front. It's not the worst front to be fucked on, but it doesn't have zero downfalls. That's why they are at least somewhat accurately complaining about their lack of physical and emotional attention of a specific kind. Yes, you can find other things and patch it over with friends, family, and adventure and still have a fantastically meaningful life, but it is a detriment. You seem to be putting an overly negative slant on single hood calling it a "detriment". Isn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?What store is this happening in? Is it one woman or many? All stores. The more upmarket the store, the worse it gets. It's individual women, I don't know if there's anything they have in common, except they seem to be usually in their 30s/40s and middle class. I don't see older women behaving like this as much, in fact maybe they're also victims of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:21 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Come visit Sydney, it's a feminist paradise! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?So you regularly have women barge in front of you in line and try to slam into you? Are you sue this isn't something that happened once and that stuck with you? It's such a regular occurrence that I've learned to pre-emptively get out of the way as soon as I see them coming. If you want to blame the victim go ahead. Maybe I deserve somehow it because I'm a guy. but anyway it's definitely happened many times. Shit happens. People are mean. Gender often has nothing to do with it. Have you really h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:09 PM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Occasionally my sister insists on hugging me, so I comply, but I find it awkward and weird. I don't have any partners, but I'm working on transitioning to be gay so I can hopefully date gay guys. But it's fun to chat with guys on dating apps. Of course, I don't have any female sex partners, apparently we're all rapists, and anyway I'm unattractive to women, plus I don't want to lose half my money, be falsely accused, etc. I wish society had more institutions for helping men (who want to be gay) … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 01:05 PM |
| -2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Maybe I'm just weird but I don't feel any negative reaction in my body. I feel healthy too. It would be nice to have some bros to hug occasionally, that I will grant. That would be a nice extra to have in life, not a necessity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I live a great life without much but I would like to cultivate my gay side more so I can get it on with guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:51 PM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?But, I can grant anyone, not having the kissing, cuddling, constant skin to skin of a partner is going to be a worse lifestyle that a bro really cannot fulfill unless you swing that way. I dunno, is it? You'd have to consider all the things a man would have to give up to even have a woman partner in the first place. And then the constant threat of losing the woman. And then what about men who aren't attractive to any woman? Seems to me there are many cases where a bro is a more practical option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:44 PM |
| -4 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?It's a horrible feeling but it's just a feeling. You can choose to feel differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:32 PM |
| -2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I agree with you generally. I think the touch phobia is mostly coming from western white feminised men in a couple relationship with a bossy feminist woman who slowly undermines them (probably due to unresolved "mummy issues"). A lot of more normal men who don't act like they have a stick up their arse do seem comfortable with hugs or at least shaking hands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I think you're giving up too easily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:23 PM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?It's not a need, it's a socially constructed desire. We have a cerebral cortex (well most of us). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:22 PM |
| -9 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I think that would solve a lot of problems! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:20 PM |
| 4 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Agree, actually it was pretty normal when I used to go to church | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:20 PM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I enjoy it more than the "real thing" tbh! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?So this has nothing to do with your online circles. Just suddenly women you don't talk to and don't interact with "feel" like they don't want you to exist? Women in public (strangers) never talked or interacted with me from the time I was an adult, and that's cool of course. What makes me feel like they don't want me to exist is things like me being in a queue and they just barge in front of me, or they try to slam into me with a shopping trolley in the supermarket. It's sad that my existence re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:14 PM |
| -1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I'm not 100% sure what simping means but I think it encourages desperate behaviour. Which plays right into the feminist playbook because then they can point at all the men acting desperate and be like: "see? male entitlement!!" It's kind of weird reverse psychology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?"we don't need men anymore" is the 2nd wave stuff I was talking about. It is extremely rare in modern feminist thought. That's just the vibe I get these days from modern feminist urban women, walking down the street, riding public transport, sitting at the park, I just get the general feeling and mood in the air that "we'd prefer if you didn't exist". I find it different these days. Even 10 years ago it was friendlier, like people would wait their turn in queue even if it was a man, etc. But the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Agree!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I feel like the "we don't need men anymore" is the vibe of feminism these days. I'm on board with "men going their own way" type feminism where men should never approach women, etc. but I just feel like men should still be allowed to be human and part of society. But if academically and cleverly you can somehow prove that we need to go further and have gender segregation, I'm totally cool with that, but then men will really need to be nice to eachother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:54 AM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?But we both know there is a reason why you will never post on reddit: "Women should be more open to platonic touch from men," and it has nothing to do with man-hating, feminists. Because it would get immediately taken down. But look I sympathise with women. They can't stand men, they literally hate us. (Except for some legendary / mythical "top 10% man" who no one has ever seen. It's fine, let's just leave them alone then. But we can still act suave and gentlemanly around other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:49 AM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I am also going to argue this is very much an American and childish thing. I like your username btw, are you American? A grown man complaining of not being touched, even not meant in sexual way, comes across as needy, childish and off-putting. Yeah complaining that way about women specifically is childish. Like women aren't your mother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:46 AM |
| -5 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Agree I reckon it's elite feminazi propaganda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:45 AM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?It's not always homoerotic like you rush to assume. I used to know this big strong Pacific Islander guy, used to shake hands and hug all the time, was great and 100% non erotic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:44 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I think you’re conflating two things. Not me conflating, the "adult men need touch" propaganda is conflating them. Men often say their love language is “touch” when they’re really talking about sex. I'm just curious - do you have statistics on this or is it just your/your friends' experience? Speaking for myself, I have never initiated sex at all, it was always the woman who did. I never even asked for sex. And also at least one woman lost her temper with me because I turned down sex one time. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Firstly we need to encourage and ALLOW male spaces, so men can learn to like just socialise with men again. Yes But we don't need to "learn to socialise", we already know, we're human. So we just need the mens spaces. The lack of such spaces is the reason we sometimes feel isolated. Urban space has become ridiculously feminised in case you didn't notice. Except in Ireland, they still have a pub culture that includes conversation and not just drinking and gambling. A lot of Australian and US wate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Like some of the pacific island cultures | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:17 AM |
| 3 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Yeah even in the Middle East they do it. So it's not that weird historically. Actually our touch-phobic society is probably more weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Can one love both women and men (including people and gender roles) without being mysoginist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?"unfortunately" aren't you asserting cultural superiority here? How do you know some other cultures didn't have perfectly fine ways of operating consent-free? Before you accuse me... I am pro-consent. I'm just saying, maybe be a little open minded and consider other cultures might have some ancient wisdom too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I have plenty of platonic touch in my life with men and women. I'm poly. My desire for others isn't disguised at all. I'm addressing this post which is about platonic touch. Women are allowed to desire anyone. Men aren't even allowed to desire other men let alone women. Seems like women actually have more freedom, contra feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?The act of being born is already rape, the baby's head violates the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?We men should be suave and shake hands like Carry Grant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?How do you know most men don't desire that? If men felt a little more comfortable like they wouldn't be demonised, we could all be acting like men in 50s movies carrying ourselves with self esteem. Then the man-hating feminist women who treat us inferior would just come off looking weird and catty ... which they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?I just feel like we men should walk and shake hands like a Carry Grant movie, would be better for us psychologically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:03 AM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?You make it sound so horrible like we all live in Afghanistan or something. We still have respect for the male body. Look at all the phallic statues in ancient cultures and nowadays it's skyscrapers (same thing really). But we are letting the obese feminist lobby make us ashamed of shaking hands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 11:02 AM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Yes all of the above, no either/or, you're right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Yep working out is great! Don't let feminists discourage your fitness! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:59 AM |
| 5 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Apparently every man is a rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?And other cultures don't have this preference. There are places in the world where men regularly hold hands with each other as part of brotherly love. Are all those men just acting on preference without regard to the culture they were brought up in? Yes very true, this is normal in Thailand and Vietnam. Once again, Asian culture proves itself wiser than the west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?We need the next era to have the good parts from both the present and past. Good parts from present: effort toward inclusiveness of skin colour, religion, languages, etc. Good parts from the past: effort toward inclusiveness of rich and poor, men respecting and esteeming eachother and treating eachother with dignity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Maybe what really happened is that homosexuality got politicised and taken over by power seeking misanthropes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:49 AM |
| -3 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Maybe because most men aren’t asexual. Most women crave physical touch from men too and you might know this if you’ve ever actually touched one. Practically every woman I date says physical touch is her love language. / cowers, waits for 100 feminist women to loudly disagree 🙈 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?It's possible that they over extrapolated from a small sample size, that's not unknown in science you know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:45 AM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Given how many men are paying and doing absolutely anything to get women to touch them, I'd agree with it. Just because they're willing to pay doesn't mean it's essential for life. Because apparently bodybuilding is fashionable, but not actually investing in the body - that's for women, and unfortunately the world is still too misogynistic to accept anything else. Strength training is not opposite to body scan and meditation, I'd say they're all good practices. As an older millennial woman, this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:44 AM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Thanks for this reference! I'll check out the book. And sorry I didn't mean to monolith men, you're quite right, quite a lot of us are waking up from the matrix and adopting healthier habits. I'm starting a Discord group of single guys. You can DM me for details if you're curious. We might read this book in our book club channel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:40 AM |
| 0 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Babies can die without skin to skin contact. We're not babies here, we're adults. (Unless babies somehow learned to type) Humans do need touch and in our culture we only have space for sexual/romantic touch and professional touch. It's a real bummer and it hurts a bunch of people regardless of gender. I've gone most of my life without touch and done just fine. Stable job, wealthy, fit, knowledgeable, educated. I'm in a better state than a lot of coupled men. Why can't men cuddle other men? Becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:32 AM |
| -4 | Why single men feel "touch deprived" but are hardly touch with their own bodies?Men don't do it for me tbh Doesn't have to be sexual What a bizarre take, you're too young to be sounding this much like a boomer. Medical understanding advances, we also have ready access to a lot more information than we did in the 90s. Maybe we could learn a thing or two from boomers. Science is more advanced but we also have ridiculously high standards for what we consider a "good life", I think we need to be a little more realistic and bring expectations down-to-earth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Feminisim will either help men or lose men-- there is no 2nd option.I'm setting up a Discord group for Single Men to love and support eachother. DM me for details. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Sexless men should honestly take their chances and approach as many women as possibleWe need communities of love and support and personal growth, not sugar daddy relationships which exploit us for money. Wealth frees up your time so you can do whatever you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 04:07 PM |
| 3 | CMV : I Think Some People Missed The Point Of The Redpill = Insecurity PostWomen are such a waste of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:38 PM |
| 0 | CMV : I Think Some People Missed The Point Of The Redpill = Insecurity PostThe issue is within you. Stop lowering people self-esteem. The issue isn't with you. The issue is with the kind of company you're keeping (or not keeping), your daily habits, your mindset, your thinking, your philosophy. You need community of other single men so you can all be with eahother and offer support, caring, knowledge sharing etc. Right now you are isolated and alone, that's why you feel negative. I'm building such a community online for single men only, DM me for details. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:38 PM |
| 1 | One reason why the Dating market looks „less damaged“ on paper is because most man lie about they‘re success with woman HUGELY.Haha I agree with you even before reading any statistics. Actually it's not just the dating market that's messed up. The couples scene itself is messed up. Men being intellectually stunted and letting women boss them around in these relationships. They're losing fitness, not hanging out with fellow bros, and becoming subservient. This was all planned, it's not a mistake or accident. Certain powers in this world want us divided and separated and fearful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Women want to date men that are attracted to them but alot of them adopt mindsets which prevent it from happening"Just be single then" Alot of men actually do this, they'd rather be single than date someone they don't like. Maybe one man doesn't want to be single. Maybe women should take greater steps into finding a man who actually likes them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being single. Actually it is a point of pride for me personally. I am single and am starting a group for Single Men only on Discord. Society ostracises us but we are strong and our single hood is powerful because it means we ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:24 PM |
| 7 | Feminisim will either help men or lose men-- there is no 2nd option.Men are having to find their own way now that they realise feminism is not helping them with their personal agendas, and so either you will continue to push men away or you will help them and expect help in return from them. Women don't care about us, they're now part of the system. Single men need to get together in small groups and help eachother, have community and care and build up each others self esteem. We need to build up eachother because the system hates us and every day is trying to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:16 PM |
| 1 | I have witnessed firsthand girls who previously wanted a guy badly but completely lost interest in him when they found out he was niceI'm glad if women want to keep only the horrible, unpleasant, disrespectful, arrogant, aggressive men. Let them have those men, I have no use for them. I'm forming a club for Single Men only, it's on Discord, we will network, collaborate, share feelings and wisdom and build solid friendship circles. DM me for details. In my groups we are friendly, open, share our feelings, share real wisdom and build eachother up. These groups are for nice guys only, those are the valuable ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:12 PM |
| 2 | What US women want is a fantasyAnd before elite tech controlled human interactions!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:09 PM |
| 2 | What US women want is a fantasyIt's not just US it's global. Have you noticed that men have become zombified, cut off from real support networks (corporate bureaucracy is not a support network), cut off from knowledge, wisdom. Basically men are being societally neglected and blamed for it and it's disgusting and needs to change. I am driving change by creating an informal Discord group of single bros, 100% online, we will form community support eachother, share knowledge and wisdom, laugh and cry together for emotional healin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:08 PM |
| 0 | Society actually consistently underestimates how pervy and predatory male sexuality isIt's interesting how you just quietly downvoted this but can't be bothered to address any of the points. They are good, consistent, logical, well reasoned arguments. It seems like you just want to use the bad things that happened to you to politically beat up a whole gender. It's not going to work. People are waking up. We're not all dumb. We know what this is really about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Society actually consistently underestimates how pervy and predatory male sexuality isI'm sorry that all that stuff happened to you. If you want to slander the whole male gender based on its worst representatives, you can do that. I'm not sure how punishing the innocent is going to improve the problem. The men who do this stuff will just keep doing it. In fact they'll feel freer to do it, since there will be no incentive to behave properly, since feminism will punish all men, regardless of what they did / didn't do. I hope one day we advance to a society where people are punished… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 02:13 PM |
| 6 | Society actually consistently underestimates how pervy and predatory male sexuality isIf left completely to their own devices men would turn into animals that can barely control their impulses. We have seen all these normal family guys who lust after teenage girls and grope them on the train. Aren't men already largely left to their own devices? You don't see police patrolling every street, corner, building, etc. In fact the police themselves are largely male! We have things like society, social mores, traditions, the economy, laws, etc. and much of it is in peoples' minds, not j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Sexless men should honestly take their chances and approach as many women as possibleThere are so many "infinite games" in life that don't revolve around getting laid. For a start, doing something (small or large) to make the world around you better, such as helping people, building communities, volunteering, doing research in a university, building a startup, etc. There are all kinds of hobbies and interests and spiritual pursuits. How about meditating for 20 minutes per day and taking time to feel compassion for random people or animals? I could go on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 06:20 AM |
| 1 | What is your end game?You can't individually prevent or allow taxation so it's not a moral concern on your part. Ethics only concerns that which is within our choice. You as an individual have a choice to carry a gun or not. I choose not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 11:13 AM |
| 0 | What is your end game?For example. Is it good to force someone to give you their money at gun point? No! Ideally we should live completely gun-free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 10:28 AM |
| 1 | What are people's thoughts on "love"?The dominant culture trains us that "love" is only something a "proper heterosexual man" can feel for a "proper heterosexual woman" who is (a) on the dating market, (b) attractive to said man. This is such a obviously tiny, narrow, small, severely limited view of love that it's practically impossible if not absurd and ridiculous. This caricature of love (it's not actually love, it's needy self-abasement) is only "possible" in the delusional minds of the men who drink this stupid Kool aid and cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 03:53 AM |
| 7 | What is your end game?We are all valuable. Every life is precious. Everyone is worth of love. We should all think of ourselves as good people at least potentially (if not actually) and strive to be good, to treat others well and fairly, to live respectable lives as far as possible. Through understanding how the modern society has twisted the expectations of masculinity we can escape the matrix programming, learn to see ourselves and eachother as human, and build genuine friendships. My vision for the future is many s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Sexless men should honestly take their chances and approach as many women as possibleThanks, I agree 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Yes we should have various diverse interests and share tips and tactics, like African nomadic hunter gathers would have done in ancient times. We should work together to build up a communal knowledge based on experience, with a wide variety of sources both academic and non-academic. One should have the feeling, e.g. "Oh I can ask blahblah about that, he will know the answer" and that should be a real person who they can actually chat with, not just some website with a paywall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?They're local, you have to be in the physical area to attend. We need something global and asynchronous and 100% remote for all men everywhere. 💗 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I feel like these aren't global enough. Really we need something 100% global, remote and universal for all single men, and very diverse and focussed on sharing and helping eachother, and no divisions or separations. I hope some people will join my Global discord server: 🦊The Fox Den PM me for the invite link. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:07 PM |
| 0 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I feel like these aren't global enough. Really we need something 100% global, remote and universal for all single men, and very diverse and focussed on sharing and helping eachother, and no divisions or separations. I hope some people will join my Global discord server: 🦊The Fox Den PM me for the invite link. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?We can start with English and work our way up to Hindi and Chinese! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:05 PM |
| 0 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Should be 100% online and easy to join, no paywall, no brainwashing, just people chilling and helping eachother like in medieval times. Please join my Discord 🦊The Fox Den(private message me for the link) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultThis is all very true. However specifically on clothing, haven't you noticed that mens' clothing in shops these days is terrible? It's all wayyyy too large loose and flappy, with dull colours and not interesting materials and horrible brand names. It's almost as if the state-capitalist system wants men to look horrible so that they'll feel inadequate and work horrendous hours at mind-numbing corporate jobs for a-hole middle-managers!!! Why would the system want men to look and feel their best? W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I feel like what we need is small distributed online social networks focussed on improving our outcomes in life, not based on religion or hobbies, just purely about improving our lives. Instead of splitting people up hobbies, people should have a variety of hobbies and share and learn what eachother do. Basically we should form multifunctional groups, in which each member has some skill that the others can learn about. It's so inhumane so split people apart based on some ridiculous fake social c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.Depends where you live, but from my observation, women normally dress better and are fitter and more outgoing than men. Often also have their career and finances better sorted. Women are flourishing without need of men! If you're not flourishing, then I suggest that's your problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 04:43 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?360 comments, ... low-effort and basic seems to get attention hahaha 😂 😭 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 04:01 PM |
| 7 | Sexless men should honestly take their chances and approach as many women as possibleIf you're really that desperate sure. Just don't break the law or do anything too offensive. IMO better off masturbating at home and focussing on your career and wealth. When you're in your 30s you won't care about how much you got laid, you'll care about your health, the quality of your accommodation, the amount of free time you have, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 02:43 PM |
| 6 | Why do men care if older single women are lonely?Contrary to the stereotype of single men, I am compassionate and care about others. I don't wish anyone to be unhappy or suffer. So even for a woman who might've rejected me in the past, I would wish the best for her and that she can find her sweetheart or manage well on her own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 11:06 AM |
| 0 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Hahahaha look at how you portray yourself! As a closed-minded, bigoted sexual harasser and common criminal, who they can easily lock up if/when they want to. You know you're better than that. They want you to think and act like a ridiculous immature caricature of a human being. Isolated and resented by women and men alike. Who they can goad around like an ox. Your potential is 1000x that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 04:08 AM |
| 0 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Enjoy your domestic servitude and atrophying social skills. You're right where the feminists want you to be – weak and controlled like cattle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 04:02 AM |
| 0 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?That's fine, if you don't wanna participate, you don't have to. But I'm going ahead and starting the group, I already created a Discord server. Our door is open for you if/when you wake up to the Matrix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 03:50 AM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?They probably enjoy their time in more than their time out! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 03:49 AM |
| – | Women seem to have a "threshold of unlove" for maleness.When women explain why they don't like being approached by strangers, they occasionally bring up the analogy "imagine if a huge gay dude tried to hit on you". It is the same as just saying: It's not just strangers. Modern women avoid: Approaches by male work colleagues Approaches by male students in colleges Approaches by male tradespeople working on their houses Approaches by men in their church group At this point it seems women only permit demonstrations of interest from men in their close-kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Man I hope you're just joking and we're not truly becoming like the USSR. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Genuinely, if a woman in your life isn't caring about your emotional well-being, you do not need that woman in your life. I already solved that problem and now have close to zero female friends. But I guess having no female friends now makes me an evil misogynist. 😂 Damned if I do, damned if I don't! There are many, many women who love men as people. Don't settle for less, my dude. I wonder where they're hiding? Maybe on some obscure island in the pacific or on the planet Venus? But you're also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Men are people. Thanks for saying this. A while back, my husband made a pact with his guy friends to have a meeting online once a week and discuss about how each of them are doing and how they are progressing on their path to their dreams. He said it was amazing and felt very motivated. Nobody arrested him 🤷♀️. Ok well this is heartening to hear. I'm hoping to generate similar kind of events for single guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 03:20 AM |
| 1 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.Our cultures have been around centuries to millenia longer than yours, while yours is imploding after less than 300 years. In the end, we won't become like you. We will simply look on from the outside while you destroy yourselves. I hope you're wrong and I also hope you're right. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Ok, interesting, I feel sympathetic to your idea. Then maybe we should have groups where the topic is either womens or mens trauma but the participants can be any gender. But they must allow full expression on the topic and not shut down people who express rage or sadness and not label anyone as "misogynist", "misandrist", etc for preferring to be single, etc. etc. Basically none of the Reddit/social media toxicity, just honest talk. As long as there is free and open expression and everyone is p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I don't want men to self-censor from embarrassment or fear. If it's really necessary for a woman to be present at each and every gathering, perhaps there can be 1 hour set aside for a smaller group of men only to move to a separate area and talk and listen quietly before returning to the larger group. But if it's legal for women-only groups to exist then I see no harm in mens-only groups existing also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Good to hear, just checking. You never know what's going to suddenly become illegal. They banned vaping in Australia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Look at the posts on this sub. Men are in emotional turmoil and pain. We need to give them a venue to express their feelings and trauma and support them. And help them manage their feelings productively. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?No thanks, I love my country. Maybe you can move there, where your efforts will be more appreciated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:58 PM |
| 4 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Yes true, it is weird. It's almost as if we need to be monitored like children or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I have a hard time understanding your use of the word “legal”. Of course that’s ok. FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY AND ASSOCIATION and all that. Yes true. I just thought I'd capitalise and bold those words, since it is actually a significant freedom and one worth remembering that we have and exercising from time to time, just to be sure it's still there. What are you looking for? Sports teams with men exist as do religious organizations having men’s space. You can find community online too. I'm looking for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I was hoping you might look out the window and provide a first-hand account! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:48 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I'm going to start working on this, now that I have some free time these days. There's all kinds of stigma and shame about even being in such groups that man men will need to work internally to overcome. I think the mainstream groups are a bit inconvenient and infrequent and also strike me as a bit fake and airbrushed. I'm looking to make something 100% online, global and where the emphasis is on sharing feelings and experiences non-judgementally and each other ourselves up. And with no "social"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Thank you 🙏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Those are very constructive, helpful assumptions, thank you so much. How's the weather in Moscow? 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:34 PM |
| 2 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I have no idea what "individuals mattering" has to do with your inability to get a date. Relationships are voluntary, and there's never been any sort of guarantee that someone will exist who you will come across and who you'll have mutual interest and compatibility with. It's Ok, I don't want a date, I gave up on that decades ago. I have far grander ambitions! Men don't have to be "manipulated" into pursuing sex with women. That's your own biology. And your logic doesn't even make any sense. How… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I would say misandry is pretty openly tolerated and is a source of amusement for women. It appears all the time. Do you see the women on the view 'Most men are useless'. 100% right. And in all kinds of subtle crafty ways too, so it doesn't appear on the surface to be the case. Lots of hinting that men are not wanted without coming out and saying it. In a way that type of misandry really screws with peoples heads the most. This kind of toxicity can't be directly fought head-on. We need to build e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:17 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I went to gay bars before, they generally don't mind straights being there, they're lovely people, I had no issues whatsoever. I used to go camping and board games until those guys all got married or had to move for work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Ok thanks for confirming, I was worried for a bit there. As an Australian, it sometimes seems like they're finding something new to ban every day... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:12 PM |
| 4 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Exactly! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Ok many thanks, and sorry I probably should've googled. I appreciate you posting this. ❤️ I'm hoping to do something like this, but online, which anyone anywhere on planet Earth can participate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:08 PM |
| 5 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?There should be no obligation to accept women. Some thoughts are best kept to those who can properly empathise and not judge. Sexual abuse should be much more widely discussed as many men are suffering quietly from terrible histories with little or no listening ear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:04 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?This kind of place I'm familiar with from movies, but they don't exist much in Australia. I think we really need places where people who have similar issues can meet up and not feel embarrassed, judged, socially ostracised or as if they're some kind of criminal just for having feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:03 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I think we need men to be vulnerable with and for each other, since for many of us, women have stopped caring how we feel long ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Quite to the contrary, I think in a country that values free speech we need to assert that we can speak publicly. There's nothing shameful about sharing a male perspective or discussing male grievances. Assuming it's constructive, factual and not advocating violence or mistreatment. Our countries have compromised on their commitment to free speech, sadly. But I hold out hope that you're right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:58 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?We need more wealthy single men with time on their hands. I am eager to actively encourage this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:57 PM |
| 0 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Thanks but link please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:56 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Yes this is why we need to really do it with other men who we know in advance will understand and not attack us. Ideally those are real men like us, not some kind of weird therapist or feminist propagandiser. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:55 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Gracius | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?You can believe that if you want and go on isolating yourself. But the CEOs and power brokers are talking and communicating, so as long as you're doing nothing, their power grows and ours diminishes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:53 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?The owners of Reddit, Fortune 500, the people who try to ban Urbit, let's please start naming and shaming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:52 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?And yet we're treated suspicious like we're criminals just for trying to organise some male communities and solidarity! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:51 PM |
| 4 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?So you can coldly observe and enjoy it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?We should be crying around others who are going through what we're going through. Not some princess with her nose stuck mile high who can't empathise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?So I guess death row is where all the good conversations are happening. Hahahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I don't know a single one in my area. Care to link to an online one? It should be easy since they are apparently so plentiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:31 PM |
| 0 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Exactly, spot on! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Good | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:27 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I bloody hope so! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:27 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Where I live barber shops have become totally commercialised but anyway I will try again, maybe there are some good ones still left. I think we need some non-religious, non-affiliation, non-commercial venues to just talk about our feelings and coping with modern life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:27 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?A small group of say 5 unarmed civilians meeting in a private home to talk about their feelings is not protest, it is basic HUMAN DIGNITY to associate freely!!!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:25 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Good on you, keep doing your trips, this is important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?It's clearly legal. Is it clearly legal? I'm hearing all kinds of rumours of such events being shut down. In private chat conversations people are telling me about chats being shut down. Anyway I am going to assume the best, that you're right, and I do intend to join such groups. The policing comes in the form of being demonetized on platforms like youtube and having comments and the ability to comment banned from public spaces. Agree with you there, so we need to start joining private spaces wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:23 PM |
| 9 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Yes exactly u/purplepillparadox , internalised misandry, spot on! 💯 We are letting the anti-male perspective infect our own minds! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:21 PM |
| 8 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Why don't we do it? We should do it. We should have that dynamic. I'm not saying sexual or erotic or anything, just sharing feelings like fellow humans. What kind of perverted twisted culture do we have that such a simple basic thing is taboo? No I will not deal with it. I protest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:20 PM |
| 5 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Good, I think I will begin to seek out such groups and join them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:20 PM |
| 4 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Good, as they should be! I want to see more of them. I think I will eventually start or join one myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:19 PM |
| 2 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Why cramped noisy poorly lit dens full of hookers and alcoholics and degenerates? We should meet at each others homes like the early Christians did, or at public parks like the Ancient Greeks did. We should be having calm, deliberative, rational, long-term discussions. All recorded and/or transcribed and published. Why is this not happening? What kind of disgusting vile force has conquered and enfeebled us to this point? Get out of your mental cage! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?I'm not ashamed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?Feminism is the law now. I don't want to end up in jail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:13 PM |
| 0 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.The truth is that a 35 year old man who has his shit together won't have much trouble dating someone 10-15 years younger is that's what he wants. I'm a 35 year old man. I'm peaceful, have a job, wealth, education, no criminal record, no addictions and have been through therapy and meditate regularly. Women of all ages avoid me like the plague. But hey, it's the 21st century hunger games era. Individuals don't matter anymore. Humans are just a numbers game on every level. If we have enough billio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?Sounds patriarchal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 11:23 AM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Not as crazy as you might think. Gender-segregated workforce -> labor specialisation and increased productivity -> boost GDP. Also good for keeping the populace under control. Last thing the CCP wants is males scattered around geographically who might resist at any moment without notice. Much easier to control people when they can physically isolate them. Similar concept with the Taobao and "social credit" system. Western elites can learn a lot from Chinese government about how to lockdown their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 05:59 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?She might think she's telling the truth but it's not the reality... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?Don't criticise her dude, it's her business what she wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?Just curious – what genre of art/music would be required in order to quality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?How high a salary would you class as "some ambition"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:39 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?They'll list attributes that reflect well on them in a public forum. Reality is quite different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?Does that mean he has to be physically fit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?Except men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?I am a complete and utter disaster on all of those metrics. Lots of sex with all kinds of people since a young age Lots of short term relationships, never longer than 1 year Copious porn consumption my whole life, I have a massive library of porn with many folders, categories, etc. and even was a cam whore at one time Zero interest in marriage, and btw, also zero interest in children or houses in suburbs or white picket fences So indeed I would not be your cup of tea! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?No one wants to "bang" you, chill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?"No options" can you be more specific? What's his body count? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:30 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?"Leader" probably means some good obedient corporate minion who looks the part and got promoted and gets to temporarily lord it over some unmotivated slackers who can't wait to quit for a higher paying job! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your personal definition of a "good man"?How do you even know this is an honest list? She could just be writing that here to present a good image but in real life she just goes after tall white chad. Hahahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:27 PM |
| 1 | How are "good" women supposed to prevent cheating, post-wall?You're the one who doesn't get it. I don't need women. I'm not desperate. I just do wtf I want. I love being single. You can spend your life chasing women and have fun but you can't stop me from progressing to the next level. I have totally transformed. Do you understand? I have been thinking outside the triangle and become Chinese and Greek. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:21 PM |
| 1 | How are "good" women supposed to prevent cheating, post-wall?I'm about as opposite of normie as they come, pal. Single and happy. The system can't touch me. You should chill and read Seneca. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:06 PM |
| 1 | How are "good" women supposed to prevent cheating, post-wall?Why are you so angry at older ladies? Leave them alone in peace. It's not their fault, people do a lot of stupid things without realising it. Look in the mirror. And what if you depend on a mature lady to care for you in hospital on your death bed? Then you'd better quickly find your manners again!! Older women should get more respect, some of them contributed to science and medicine. Younger women are too loud and obnoxious and need to SFTU, I have zero interest in them sexual or otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:00 PM |
| 1 | How are "good" women supposed to prevent cheating, post-wall?Chill bro , I'm a guy btw hahaha Look a lot of us mens' unhappiness comes from expectations being too high. If you set your expectations lower then you won't be so disappointed with life. In this respect the old single women who pursued powerful men are worse off - they had big dreams and failed. Much better off are the older single men who always knew they were scum and were totally at peace with it. Any man can be at peace with himself, just meditate 20 min daily and read Stoic literature like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 05:54 PM |
| 1 | How are "good" women supposed to prevent cheating, post-wall?It’s called “if you won’t be with me in your prime, I don’t want you in your decline” It can be the same on the woman's side too. A lot of older women are fed up after pursuing high status men all their lives and being repeatedly let down. So they end up single and happy. Which is just fine with me – I'm not attracted to them – let them be single! Hahahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 05:44 PM |
| 3 | How are "good" women supposed to prevent cheating, post-wall?The amusing thing is, the so-called "low status" men like me who are single can easily have sex with the same escorts, as we have extra money to afford it, since we don't have families to be responsible for. So these so-called "high status men" aren't really higher status than us when it comes down to who they can sleep with. Also they tend to be out of shape and pathetic in bed anyway. But of course "elites" are on a whole other level. Those guys control the whole society. They really do have p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 05:38 PM |
| 0 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.Apathetic men won't even bother to resist in the most basic way, that is by voting in parties that have men's interests in mind, like the current south korean government\ Hahaha you're so naieve to think voting means anything. Voting is the most cucked, state-worshipping act, short of voluntarily joining the military. Voting means you actually believe that millions of people choosing one party or another makes any difference. Politicians don't have to keep their promises. Technocrats and corpora… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 04:29 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Those jobs are just covers! They're all covertly working toward the Great Feminist Takeover!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 04:18 PM |
| 1 | How can women be Hypergamous and oppressed at the same time?I always thought men want to make money to impress women and if women didn't care about men with money then men would stop being ambitious and not care about having lots of money. People pursue money for various reasons. The main reason is to pay for food, clothing and shelter. Once those are covered they might want nicer quality of food, clothing and shelter and some other nice things like cars. Then beyond that work becomes about meaning or status or prestige or some combination thereof. Women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 04:12 PM |
| 2 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.The objective is to make men weaker, so that more men end up single, lonely and apathetic; I disagree. Apathetic men don't make good fighters. They want men coupled up and then use feminism to manipulate these men to fight "to protect their wives and children". Single strong men are the worst enemy of the state – they are too strong to be coerced but too independent to be manipulated. Apathetic Passionate Single Neutral / tax burden Annoyance, need to br bribed heavily to shut up Coupled Useless… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:47 PM |
| 3 | How can women be Hypergamous and oppressed at the same time?If women on average want a provider man with a higher income and status than themselves how can they be oppressed by men in power. I don't think women want a "provider man" with high income and status. I think women want high income and status for themselves. And for the record I think this is totally fine and even admirable (assuming it's pursued with some ethical standards). Weren't they the ones who incentivized them to reach those positions of power in the first place? No, men can pursue pow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:37 PM |
| 1 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenThe problem with this post is that it's seeking validation from others - women or men - for being who you want to be and living how you want to live. But others aren't a valid source of validation. You should only look to yourself for validation. If you don't know how to judge yourself ... then learn! Read some philosophy, meditate, walk alone and think. Develop your own moral standards for yourself, then live by them yourself. Seems like a lot of people have never read any Stoicism... My soluti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:21 PM |
| -1 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.In the feminist era, a "relationship" is just a friendship + some obligations on the man's side. This isn't just conjecture – it's law. You are worth no more than one of her friends. You are on the same level as someone she met briefly at college. You're literally like a brother but with a few extra strings attached which she can pull at anytime to bring you back in line. Your relationship is a temporary contract, which is structured to make you less valuable, easily replaceable and able to be e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:16 PM |
| 8 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.The trick isn't to not be depressed, have feelings, etc. We can't choose whether to feel something, we are humans, we just feel. The trick is to learn skills to manage feelings. These skills used to be taught to men back when we had authentic traditional cultures, before this ridiculous fake post-WWII baby boomer America bubble gum disaster we have now... This was known since the ancient times – Stoicism, Taoism, Buddhism all taught men various ways to manage themselves. It's not a good idea to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:04 PM |
| 0 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.I agree with you on the man side, but on the woman side, the West is living proof that none of the points you list are any longer relevant. Western women can do pretty much whatever they want. Much of the time, even the law won't get in their way. And they are not interested in men such as you describe. To them, men are a lower life-form, useful only as a source of money or an occasional consumption good. "Girls just wanna have fun" as the famous lyrics go. So western men should strive to tick a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:58 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Female superior intelligence will find a way I'm sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:54 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?That's right! Mens-only spaces = banned or heavily suppressed in western countries Womens-only spaces = lauded and heavily encouraged in western countries It's as if men are some inferior sub-species of human who can't be permitted basic human rights like privacy or freedom of association! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:44 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Not everyone has to be "included" everywhere all the time. Thank God I'm not Anglo and could afford to refuse to live in an Anglo country. The casual misandry of your average people is sickening. Y'all genuinely don't realize just how extreme you have become and how wildly outside the global norm you are at this point. They want this to be the global norm! That's why they're stroking conflicts and why BRICS is forming to counter them! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:43 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?(Because they'll eat all the women and run out of targets to attack 😄) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:36 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?But they're women, so the rules don't apply to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 05:27 AM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Thankfully I don't think women want to kill men. I think women just want men to not exist in their lives. I'm sure women would be perfectly happy for men to go on living in non-female-populated areas. If men really are that frightening and awful from a womans' point of view, then this desire to avoid men seems perfectly reasonable to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 04:53 AM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?I don't live in a country that has female-only train cars, so I'm not sure how men behave with regard to those. Here in Australia I frequently see women breaking all kinds of rules – talking loudly in "quiet" train cars, pushing and shoving in front of queues, jumping over train ticket gates to avoid paying the fare, etc. etc. I can only assume the culture is a bit different between Australia and other countries. When I go to the gym I see men keeping very quiet, heads-down, focussing on their w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 04:39 AM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?I don't know why they haven't pushed for it already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:27 AM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?They'll make robots to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 07:11 PM |
| 4 | When will we have female-only cities?No, that's your own patriarchal assumption. Anyway why should the onus be on the woman to protest? Then you're making the woman responsible for your bad behaviour! Blaming the victim – typical male chauvinist! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:29 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?They would also need to leave loads of loved ones. How do you know they really "love" men? Maybe they're just terrified of being assaulted or murdered and somehow con themselves into thinking it's "love" when it's really just "fear". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.If you prefer to cherrypick all deaths of women due to violence from men and label that "femicide", Ok. I don't know how you can equate this with genocide when 50% of the population is still women. Most women do not die from murder by men. They die from similar causes to men like: Heart disease Cancer Stroke Alzheimer's disease Diabetes https://www.statista.com/statistics/233289/distribution-of-the-10-leading-causes-of-death-among-women/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:12 PM |
| 4 | When will we have female-only cities?Ahhh finally some honesty on this thread!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:07 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?You're probably harassing and abusing women without even being aware of it due to cognitive bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:04 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?It feels like this is a bit heteronormative and appealing to the patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:03 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?True. Maybe they will hire some working class men to build the city, then order them to leave after the building is done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.It's not a matter of scale. Women were not subjected to "gendercide". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:01 PM |
| 4 | When will we have female-only cities?Read my post again. It's men I'm trying to exclude not women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 06:00 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?It’s perfectly reasonable to hate a piece of rhetoric, have complaints about male misbehavior, or criticize gendered social norms without wanting men to disappear. I mean technically yeah anything's possible I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Right so maybe you shouldn't compare western womens' plight with the plight of indigenous peoples, it's different by an order of magnitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:56 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?Maybe get tf out of womens way altogether? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:53 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?To attack man they dislike they would find a way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:51 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?Personally I already avoid women as much as possible in all physical spaces. What are you doing to help the situation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.LMAO you're comparing 50% of the population with 5%. Oh but my apologies, that's "male math", a proper "feminist math" would change all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.https://women-in-tech.org/au/ https://wit.org.au/ https://australia.girlsintech.org/ https://womenintechsummit.pl/ https://womentecheurope.eu/ https://www.womentech.net/ https://www.womenintechnology.org/ https://www.hiretechladies.com/ https://codefirstgirls.com/ https://www.shecodes.io/ https://www.codelikeagirl.com/ Is that enough links for you? Or maybe this is all fake and just "the patriarchy" trying to defend itself by pretending that women are wanted in STEM when they're not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:45 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?Women of ppd will launch a nuke at the sight of a lone man trying to scale the city wall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:41 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?They'll probably find a way to coerce lower class men to do it on occasion. And I'm sure they'll find some way to blame men / "the patriarchy" if the job isn't up to scratch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:40 PM |
| 7 | When will we have female-only cities?Oh really? Is that why women haaaate the phrase "not all men"? Is that why women actively blame and persecute the male gender as a whole for the crimes of men they are cohabiting with or in some kind of family relationship to? Is that why women are pushing terms like "toxic masculinity" and "male privilege"? I'm not convinced that women don't want men to disappear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:38 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Maybe women would do all the above just to get away from men! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.With all the hundreds "women coders", "women in STEM", "women in tech", blah blah meetups and conferences starting up all the time it feels like the idea of women in STEM has been beaten to death and still women apparently don't want to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:29 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?No not particularly, but who am I that my happiness should get in the way of feminist progress? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:04 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?Am I allowed to bring my husband and my two best friends? How about one of their husbands? My nephews? You're free to stay in your mixed city with your male relatives and watch it slowly turn into a delapidated ghetto as all the investment and activity floods to the fast growing female-only cities – the paragon of democratic progress! 🗽 Maybe you can eventually betray and abandon your male relatives and move to the feminist utopia city for the sake of female empowerment. No problem if they prote… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:00 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?You can laugh but this is how women really think! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.You won't be laughing so hard when it happens | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:44 PM |
| -1 | When will we have female-only cities?I have no idea what could possibly have brought me to such a conclusion! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:26 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Yep so they'd have to exile men from earth to another planet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:24 PM |
| 5 | When will we have female-only cities?There would be a special app where women can swipe right to allow a chad in temporarily, but with a security bracelet on his ankle like a prisoner. When his time is up it would start electrocuting him at regular intervals until he flees! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:22 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?There are plenty enough women. Men aren't doing any work anyway, they're too busy harassing women! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:21 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?There's even some eccentricity... ahahahaha <image> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:19 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?They don't need to go to the Amazon, they can just buy up blocks in democrat cities and make "female-only" rental ads. It's probably happening already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:17 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?You know, they haven't totally eliminated deplorable men from Australia yet. We still exist. Hahahah! But anyway I'll go to the UK if they do finally pass some "anti man" law. The UK winter is lovely. The UK leadership are so decrepit and useless that they will want to ban men and be unable to!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:16 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?There aren't any really separatist countries in general, for any branch of separatists in any genre. If there was a separatist country, they would be doing that, yeah. Have you read the news about the riots in France? Marseille might be getting there soon hahaha! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:13 PM |
| -5 | When will we have female-only cities?I am absolutely dead serious my friend, I think you're a little behind the times! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:12 PM |
| 7 | When will we have female-only cities?Definitely tax the lower income men first. In fact, force them to build the cities for almost zero pay, then fire them all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:11 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?Bear attacks will drop to zero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:09 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?Good one! Upvoted! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:09 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?The patriarchy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:08 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Amazon drone delivery to the rescue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:08 PM |
| 4 | When will we have female-only cities?Have you seen how many replies and threaded discussions have come out of this? And I've been participating in almost all of them. I'm dead serious. Women by all accounts really don't seem to want men around – so I am genuinely interested in solving that problem so I won't have to hear these complaints about my gender anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:05 PM |
| 5 | When will we have female-only cities?I'm trying to solve womens' stated problem: men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:04 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?"Women have not called for the elimination of all men... at least for now." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:03 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?I think the idea is for there not to be any men left to commit any such acts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:01 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?Apparently sexual assault rates aren't going down fast enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 04:01 PM |
| 5 | When will we have female-only cities?Facts like every genocide was orchestrated by men? Those kinds of facts? Participated in and carried out by women including smuggling weapons? Also a lot of the men in genocides were unwilling participants, pressured and threatened with death if they didn't participate. You should watch a documentary or two on Rwanda or Serbia, it's not as simple and formulaic and "Hollywood" as you think.... Facts like men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of sex crimes? Most men aren't sex offenders, else th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:59 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?Women almost never get attacked randomly its always someone they know, which sounds bad yes but why take it out on random men when they aren’t the problem?? Isn't it funny how women accuse strangers when it's men in their family who are the culprits? And then they smear single men as "incels", "terrorists" etc. who are just trying to live their lives and make the best of social isolation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:57 PM |
| 6 | When will we have female-only cities?On top of this strangers aren’t even the danger someone who attacks women is almost always someone known to them. Ha! But the women on this thread are all like... "Oh but we love our brothers and husbands and sons" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:56 PM |
| -3 | When will we have female-only cities?I’m 99% sure you’re trolling Actually this is 100% serious. In fact I would prefer to live in a male-only city. Now that I've become more... let's say... "awakened" to how women really feel about men including me. I would feel more comfortable being around people who don't wish me to have never been born. how many women do you genuinely believe would want to live in a “female-only” city? It's not a number, it's a percentage. I would guess at least 50% of women would love to never have to see any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:53 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Don't underestimate what women will do to get away from men! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:49 PM |
| -1 | When will we have female-only cities?Don't underestimate what women will do to get away from men! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:49 PM |
| 4 | When will we have female-only cities?Maybe women could find a small island or atoll in the pacific and establish it there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:49 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?A model for the future! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:48 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Prediction: Current cities sexual assault rate = 2% per year Women-only cities sexual assault rate = 0.000000000000001% per year | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:48 PM |
| 4 | When will we have female-only cities?Interesting. Speaking for Australia, there are no shortage of ads for houses, flats, etc. marked "WOMEN ONLY" and they are far greater number than any other category of exclusionary ad. I predict this will be a growing trend in future. Perhaps we will see organic evolution of womens-only cities from the proliferation of these ads. So it looks like not only women want this but it's actually likely to be the future! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:46 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?Sorry I'm in Australia, it's winter. You go enjoy your summer. Don't waste precious moments of your life debating deplorables like me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:43 PM |
| 5 | When will we have female-only cities?I feel sorry for women that they have to breath the same air as scum like me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Yep, now I just need directions to the gas chamber please. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:41 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?How do you know it's voluntary and not coerced? Maybe they feel socially pressured to go because ... you know... patriarchy. Furthermore, women are becoming the primary customers at universities. Their wants are going to be reflected in what is offered to them as housing options. But universities are still run by men at the upper levels. So even if women are the customers, universities might still not be adequately catering. Female-only university towns could solve this, no? Single sex colleges … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:40 PM |
| 5 | When will we have female-only cities?Sign me up! I'd love to walk around not feeling like a potential rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:37 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?the vast majority also have multiple men they love whether that's friends or family. How do you know it's really love and not some kind of domestic violence / narcissist abuse / patriarchal oppression situation? Maybe those women are just pretending to love these toxic men but dying inside? It's like saying that because roads are dangerous and people often don't feel safe crossing them we need road-free cities Haven't you heard of 15-minute cities / car-free zones? I think it'd be a good thing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:36 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?The vast majority of women are straight Are you really sure though? You don't think this might be a historical hangover from the patriarchy? When in times past ... you know... a woman could be executed on the spot for not having a husband. and would like to not be celibate and loveless foreve There are other women. Since women are 100x more ethical, moral, non-violent and ... just basically superior to men in every dimension... you'd think women would be attractive to each other wouldn't you? An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:35 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?OR we kick offenders out of cities. Win-win for all. Instead I see frequent articles like: Maybe start with broadening the definition of "sexual offender" and "high risk" to include as many possible actions as possible, e.g. glancing or staring too long or any kind of vocalisations. Then start making false accusations of lower-income men and minorities who have insufficient means to defend themselves in court. Then begin to gradually change laws to exclude men from certain streets, certain hours… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:30 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?Men, from female-only cities. Which should eventually (hopefully for women!) become the biggest best cities in the world, totally dwarfing and eclipsing anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I really love my husband and son. I love my male friends, too. It sounds like the patriarchy still has a grip on you and you're not a truly liberated feminist woman yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I will just enjoy feeling like a conference attendee rather than a potential rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:21 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?Female comrades devoted to the cause! 💪🏻 💪🏽 💪🏿 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:18 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?I don't think women want to force men to do anything other than leave them alone. So despite all the efforts of feminists, men obviously can't be force to keep their hands to themselves. Then female-only cities would seem like the simplest and fastest way to achieve this. Men gone = problem gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I'm married, but thanks. Hope it was consensual! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.So women are both fabulously successful and also hypergamous gold diggers? Maybe pick a lane. I never claimed women are hypergamous gold diggers, those are your words. I'm a little different from the typical men on this forum, in case you didn't notice. My main claim is that women as a whole hate men and couldn't wait to remove all men from their lives, if they had the opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:11 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?I'm not noticing that actually. Most of the women in my family now shun me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:09 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?Yes! The Chinese are doing it, why aren't we? Maybe this is even an essential part of the China growth story of the past few decades. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:08 PM |
| -2 | When will we have female-only cities?Preferred housing arrangements at universities is a good way to measure what women actually want when it comes to a living arrangement. This would presumably include the structure of an environment even as large as a city. You assume it's not already infected/infiltrated by the patriarchy. Are there many women who want to live in dormitories that restrict male entry? A sorority might be an example. But it’s a special case of being a sisterhood, and they certainly like having fraternities nearby.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:07 PM |
| -1 | When will we have female-only cities?Literally the light-frequency emitted by laptop screens turns otherwise good men into delusional idiots who think women don't like them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:04 PM |
| -2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.The president is male. 5 of our Supreme Court justices are male. The senate is 75% male and the House of Representatives is 71% male. Women will elect whoever favours their causes of any gender, doesn't have to be a woman to be pro-woman. Women are acquiring most of the wealth and buying up most of the real estate in democrat cities. Culturally you're doing a fabulous job of excluding and pushing men out. Really there should be a "feminist progress leaderboard" in Times Square with the male deat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:02 PM |
| 2 | When will we have female-only cities?Speaking for all other women much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:55 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?not enough women pour cement, weld, build sewer systems, garbage collection, etc. They would to get away from men though! Don't underestimate highly motivated, organised women! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:54 PM |
| -1 | When will we have female-only cities?How dare men try to give women what they ask for! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:52 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?True. Yep so we can also decrease the aggregate suffering in the world by eliminating men from womens' lives. False to some extent. Most women are straight. Most women want a long term partner. Most women have a long term partner. I find this more difficult to believe each year. Most women also have fond feelings for male relatives. So on so forth. Sisters and brothers really get along well don't they? Uncles and grandfathers aren't all sexual predators, are they? Family cohesion is really at an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:51 PM |
| 5 | When will we have female-only cities?And that's perfectly fine! You'll still be allowed to roam free in non-female-only cities. Oh and male-only cities will be illegal of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:45 PM |
| 4 | When will we have female-only cities?If it's dramatic for you to have your own cities imagine how it'll be for us being exiled! Ha! But oh sorry I forgot, we men don't have feelings ... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:44 PM |
| 10 | When will we have female-only cities?I'm sorry to say, u/Toxic_LigmaMale , but I think she's aiming for zero... 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:43 PM |
| 12 | When will we have female-only cities?It's crazy that you think men could breath without you being harmed! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:42 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?They hate us so much they will bear a lower standard of living to be without us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:38 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?Assuming there even is such a thing as a "heterosexual woman" (that's such a patriarchal condescending heteronormative assumption on your part)... Maybe what we really need is predominantly female-only cities, but where a tiny selection of men are allowed in, based on permission by women. Maybe some kind of app could be used to filter / select the men to be allowed in. The men could be given special GPS-enabled bracelets and tracked/monitored at all times. Also the women could set specific time … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:33 PM |
| 8 | When will we have female-only cities?Your 3 wives are weeping | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:31 PM |
| 9 | When will we have female-only cities?Ah yep, sorry I forgot, male tears would be needed also as psychological fuel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:30 PM |
| 0 | When will we have female-only cities?Actually there is archeological evidence of a massive female-only city in ancient Mexico where they had invented modern hospitals, computers, self-driving cars and refrigeration. Ok I'm kidding. But seriously though – don't you think the opportunity to eliminate men from their lives could fuel an industrial and technological revolution on a scale never witnessed before in human history? I'd say female cities are a gold mine that women are just waiting to discover! Women aren't yet aware of an en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:29 PM |
| 1 | When will we have female-only cities?They'll do it, it's preferable to them enduring the presence of men within a 10km radius. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:26 PM |
| -2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.If you consider fewer options to be better for you then I hope you get infinitely few options! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:24 PM |
| 1 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.Half of me is curious what this "problem" is and whether you might not be more in love with the problem than with the man himself. Half of me genuinely believes you are either lesbian or asexual, since the number of men you are unattracted to = ∞ - 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.The problem is that some guy isn't aware half the human race would prefer he didn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Who's forcing you to be in a relationship with someone you don't like and aren't attracted to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:14 PM |
| 4 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.It's more like you just want to be treated with dignity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Sounds like heaven. Thanks for the tip, in future I should attend more IT/tech conferences. Probably I will feel more welcomed there than at my local supermarket. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:12 PM |
| 1 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.Have you actually reached out and contacted him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:11 PM |
| 8 | american women are sabotaging themselves in datingIt's not that women are sabotaging themselves... Women are perfectly happy not to be dating any men. The women who claim that they struggle to find a match are really just trying to explain away their complete lack of interest in the whole male gender. I hope one day we will reach enough "feminist equality" that women feel comfortable admitting openly that they are misandrist and hate men. Then we will have some honesty from women and maybe society can adjust itself properly based on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:09 PM |
| -7 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Men are no longer allowed in those places? That’s news to me. It's a continuum I guess... Universities - About 50% there; men can still do science, engineering, etc. but much of humanities is directly hostile to men Libraries - Maybe 25%? Strongly dominated by women and feminist propaganda all over the walls. I get strange looks as a man going in. But it's not totally hostile, e.g. female-only staff will help me if I just want to get some quick printing done and then leave. Democracy - We could … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I bet a lot of women are angry that IG was just a way for tech bros to make money out of them, when they thought they were attractive and getting attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.He has a better sense of humour than you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:57 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.u/No-Breath6663 BTW thanks for speaking up and telling the truth here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.We can get leered at just about anywhere for free. I'm a more or less observant person and I struggle to recall the last time I witnessed a woman being "leered at". Actually what I see a lot of is men just trying to go about their business and stay out of womens' way and a lot of women trying to throw their weight around and push people out of the way. E.g. women barging through supermarket aisles with a giant shopping trolley or stroller (god help the poor baby!), almost knocking other people o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.The women's only gyms had machines only (no free weights, no smith machines, no cables, benches, etc.). Completely useless for anyone who's even halfway serious about lifting. How is this mens' collective fault? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Where I live the womens only gyms have better equipment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:53 PM |
| -6 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Hmm let's see... Universities Libraries Democracy Gyms Shall I go on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.The women overseas are also shunning men. Feminism is going global. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.What's FDS? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:49 PM |
| 1 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.Well open... How? Lay down for duty sex and hope it will be nice? I can be open as I want but if my brain chemistry doesn't mix the righ combination to make me FEEL it there is nothing I can do about it Not sexually initially, maybe start with psychologically? You can feel attraction without acting on it, that's also valid. I exchanged pics with many many guys on Grinder without actually meeting them, it was pleasurable. Over time I expanded my definition of what made me horny. Maybe they did th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Women hate men as a gender. Hookups are purely about feeling attractive, they're not genuinely interested in the other person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I'm curious where you get this idea "people are dating just fine". In North America especially after COVID statistics aren't very promising. BTW I'm not saying its a bad thing, I'm just trying to get at the facts of what's happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:39 PM |
| 6 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Anti-male trends continued with the man vs bear debates. A majority of men are now in the position of not being considered as a dating option while simultaneously being told they are creeps and rapists and that women are scared of them. I will debate you only to say that in Australia it's worse than you describe. Not only are women scared of us, but we are also useless, worthless and unnecessary to society and all male positions should be replaced with femenazi leaders Thanks to TERFs, we don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:28 PM |
| 1 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.It was some x factor, it can't be explained by looks or high standards. Ok I find that really intriguing. I possibly have my own version of what you went through. There were a handful of girls I was obsessed with as a teenager, all rejected me, and I thought I'd never find someone. Actually I was kind of right, I was never able to attract those quality of women. (They all looked different BTW - different hair colour, eye colour, height, weight, ethnicity, etc.) I was (apparently) attractive to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Attraction to money and status is NOT real attractionI disagree that it's mostly visual, I think it's a blend of visual and competence. Competence is the reason that the beautiful women walking in the park with her dweeby trust fund boyfriend will feel hot for me when she sees me working out: I'm physically strong and competent, whereas her boyfriend only has social status / wealth. She'll still go home and have sex with him, but it'll be emotionally devoid. I'll go home and wank off by myself and be find it more emotionally satisfying, since I am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Why are people (mostly men) obsessed with relationships/sex/gender?Feminism. And BTW I'm not against feminism, I just think we need some equivalent on the male side to balance things out. But apparently that makes me a fascist or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 12:42 PM |
| 1 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.Before I met him I was considering I might be asexual. I was thinking about sex as a duty, you lie there and wait until it's over, I thought all women probably can't physicaly enjoy sex. But only that one person woken up my sexuality. I find this kind of strange. Now I'm curious how old you are and are you culturally western? (But please don't feel any pressure to answer those questions.) It's just kind of strange to me that a woman would think they should be passive during sex or that women can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 12:35 PM |
| – | Attraction to money and status is NOT real attractionYou are 100% correct. Actually it's narcissism more than anything. The other person's wealth makes you feel more attractive. You feel like your looks can "buy" a certain quality of wealth. So this conceit props up your self-image. The reality is that a rich person who you think is so attracted to you is probably so self-loathing that they think only their money is attractive and not them. So from their point of view you are more like a consumption item to them, similar to their fancy car, fancy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Men should want to have lesbian besties like women have gay bestiesI have had an absolutely fine experience with all lesbians I've encountered, they are the nicest people. Same with gay guys. (I myself am bisexual.) Perhaps something about being oppressed/victimised by society makes people better characters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 12:01 PM |
| 1 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.Maybe you have suppressed lesbian tendencies? I believe some people can cultivate their affection. It's not that you can love just anyone, but that you can cultivate attraction to go from say 60% up to 90%. At least I was able to do this with other men (I'm bisexual and trying to become more gay because, as a man, I think other men are less likely to hurt me given the current femenazi climate of where I live). At this point I can open Grindr and see men who I feel definitely attracted to, wherea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:59 AM |
| 1 | Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth.IMO the most important social skill for men is controlling your anger. Close 2nd and 3rd are listening and empathising (imagining how the other person feels). And those apply in many aspects of life not just sexual relationships. Those skills are not necessary for being sexually attractive (as should be abundantly obvious to anyone who observes men and woman or follows statistics). But IMO they do make your life more happy and spare you from unwanted dangers such as lawsuits, fist-fights, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:54 AM |
| 0 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.It sounds like what you really want is a group of homies to regularly roll with. Though I warn you some of those can get more intimate than you might like to assume. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:51 AM |
| 1 | A good way to incentivize more women to have children. Would be guaranteeing that women could continue to chase their dreams as well.Why do you assume we need more children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:46 AM |
| 0 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.How about a fake robot made out of cardboard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:42 AM |
| 2 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard."Broke" is different from "poor". Broke can still have inherited wealth, belong to the upper class, etc. That probably goes pretty far to explain their attractiveness. That said, some women do go after looks over class, e.g. height, facial features, nice body, etc. you can also be lower class and have those qualities and probably get a fair amount of action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:32 AM |
| 3 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.Would you settle for an ice cold relationship without the duty sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:29 AM |
| 0 | "Dont date when you're young, first get rich and fix your life" redpill advice, is the dumbest bs that i have ever heard.If the choice is to date earlier vs date later, then sure, dating earlier is better. You'll look more youthful and have more energy, probably smell better (pherenomes) and also be hornier which makes sex more fun. If for whatever reason someone doesn't want to date when young, I don't see why they should feel any pressure to. Do whatever makes you happy. If a young person wants to pursue strictly sexual encounters and skip the tedium of "traditional dating" – expensive dinners, trips to the cine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:23 AM |
| 2 | The sexuality of straight women is the driving force behind patriarchyMakes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 12:26 PM |
| 2 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyThanks for sharing your nuanced thoughts. I broadly agree with you in terms of the broad online usage of "simping". However can I just ask you, since you seem intelligent: Do you think our present-day society is hierarchical? And do you think some men struggle with accepting their subordinate role in the hierarchy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyGenuinely nice guys can be single because they know their weaknesses and prefer that women would not be exposed to those weaknesses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyYou could have all that and be nice too and women avoid you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyIt's not delusional. Men are thought of as a consumption good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyHappiness is always relative, no? One can be unhappy taking a certain path in life but still happier than if one had taken a different, worse path. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyIt seems to me that sometimes society changes gradually (abolition) and sometimes it's relatively sudden (Industrial Revolution). But I don't see how buying into the patriarchal system and "being the powerful bad guy" is going to advance the feminist cause. Sorry if that makes me somehow stupid or ignorant. If you give me a choice between A) Being proudly and defiantly my authentic self with freedom, loathed by women, but outside the clutches of either patriarchy or feminism B) Being a subservie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyThat's all part of it. Like you could have a masters and PHD and be physically fit but if you're 5'2 in height then women just are generally going to avoid having anything to do with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 07:33 PM |
| 0 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI think it's important to put people down sometimes. They might want to be placed on a firm surface. Or if you get tired of carrying them around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI feel like simping is more on a societal scale. Like you show excessive sympathy toward the feminist movement, only to get a slap in the face in return. It's the old "no good deed goes unpunished". The more feminist you try to be, the more they try to hurt you. By acting according to feminist "principles" (if there even is such a thing) you're actually undermining their movement, since their movement depends on you being the enemy/antagonist! This is maybe beyond feminism and part of the nature… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyThe real life application is that you’re “buying into society to get what you need”. That’s what normalcy/blue pill is Ok interesting... But since society is apparently patriarchal, wouldn't buying into society only be reinforcing patriarchal norms? Or is the blue pill supposed to somehow be both patriarchal and feminist simultaneously? No worries if you prefer not to answer that. I can imagine how awkward it must feel to confront the utter hypocrisy and two-faced-ness of your own movement! 😊 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyJSYK that quote was meant to be a bit sarcastic. I'm also rebelling, in my own way. I retired early and don't work because F*** supporting this sick disgusting society that hates men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyThanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyWell according to the prevailing ideology, literally nothing is creepy if a woman does it. I'm pleased that happened though. It's most pleasant to witness someone to reveal their own hypocrisy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchySorry what's SM? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI should clarify (and sorry if the following disappoints you) I don't think pill discourse is about sex at all. That's just a disguise. I think it's really about moral judgement, power, ideology and competing visions of the future and of the good life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI agree that most people don't think the world is fair and just. But my contention is that people do make moral judgements, even if they don't admit that they do. So my questioning is around: what are those moral judgements? I.e. in the mind of someone who condemns red-pill men, what is the "good man" which such men can and ought to be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyWhat you do defines you, so if people don’t respect you, you either haven’t done anything to earn their respect, or you’re around people who are not worth your time because they’re assholes. What if most of people's respect is entirely contingent on factors completely out of your control (e.g. whether you belong to their in-group according to some hard-wired social category), and thus it is impossible to earn their respect? In that case, the more realistic ("red pill") belief is that they choose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyBy eliminating the socioeconomic/professional hierarchy inherent to capitalism, social democracy restricts your position in society to your position in the social sphere- so thus, such a society becomes a de facto matriarchy. Not sure I buy that. Men would quickly adapt and rise. Humans are generally very adaptable. Much of the economy is already social anyway. Most men dealing with physical object aren't lifting heavy things by hand, they're using machines. So the effort is more social, i.e. in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI would call that just being "creepy". But to me "simping" is an ideological term which involves buying into a narrative or "world view" about how gender relations actually function, which seems (for now) to not be able to or not want to identify itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyConspiracy theory? Haha There's academic research backing it up! https://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2013/04/25/the-disturbing-link-between-psychopathy-and-leadership/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyInteresting! Ok so supporting consumerism? Buying whatever is being sold in the shops? Spending a lot of money? Or am I taking you too literally? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyThe inverse is there is no pill or right or wrong path or cheat code. Anyone trying to tell you that is lying. Here I really think you drunk the liberal kool-aid. You actually think society is really liberal! Ok sure there is no official rule-book. But there is: Cancel culture Social ostracism Terms of use (including right here on Reddit) and shadow banning Employment background checks Police The above (and threat thereof) are employed to enforce peoples' moral judgements by punishing/ostracisin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI want to know who lied and told dudes that most people think the world is fair and there is sunshine and rainbows. I don't believe "people think the world is fair". What I'm saying is that ... When people morally judge incels / pill ideology, e.g. "those red pills are blah blah". Then contained in that moral judgement is the inverse, i.e. that it would be possible for those people not to be red pills and thus to be judged as not evil in that specific category. So the question that always fascin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyWhat part do you find disagreeable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 12:01 PM |
| 0 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyYou assume social position is something the individual choses rather than something the group chooses for the individual. I would see that assumption as blue pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 11:36 AM |
| 0 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI wouldn't characterise the current system as fatalistic. It is "progressive" – focussing on improving standards of living, emancipation of women and minorities, scientific discoveries, etc. These things I love and champion. But what doesn't seem to be admitted is that the current system is a hierarchy. Some are "leaders" others must follow. The system seems so intent on denying the fact that it's hierarchical that it makes it difficult for any individual to even identify their place in the hier… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:55 AM |
| 2 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyAnother thing to consider is that both pills might have different definitions of what constitutes a "social hierarchy". So you can end up being both a simp in one kind of hierarchy, and a rebel in a different one. Tentatively, the two hierarchies might be the technocracy (government, academia, corporations, big tech) vs the oligarchy (billionaires, private equity, informal networks, content creators, the developing world). The incumbent wants respect, obedience, docility and blue-pill. The chall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyInteresting take, thanks! I think there's a lot of truth to what you write though I don't totally agree with you. But one aspect where I sort of agree: I think the "red pill" is actually a submissive move. One models oneself after the rebellious or "against the grain" archetype which "the system" has set up. This in turn makes it easier for "the system" to then categorise one as problematic and smear as aggressive, evil, etc. The Chinese figured out this dynamic centuries ago and Taoism is one m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:16 AM |
| 0 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyThere isn’t a social hierarchy dude, be real I disagree, I think there is. But as you can see, this thread of debate we are having is already beginning to be outlined in the text of my post! To flesh it out some more, using your reply as inspiration: Red pill - openly claim there is a social hierarchy in which one is subordinate Blue pill - deny one's subordination or that there is a hierarchy at all So by the above definition, I guess you're asserting a "blue pill" stance (unless I missed somet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:11 AM |
| -6 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyI don't think the "pill" discourse is really about dating / consent, I think it's about discovering one's place in the social hierarchy and how one deals with that. You're free to bury your head in the sand and deny that to yourself, but the world will carry on without you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:07 AM |
| -1 | Definition of "simping": accepting a subordinate position in the social hierarchyInteresting insights, thanks. But don't you think there should be a "pill" describing pure submission, conformism, obedience, etc to the system? Or does such a category not exist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Evidence please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Can you provide source materials that evidence this? Especially from female authors? And I don't just mean the cover, I mean where the actual content of the story focussed very often or intensely on the shape of the jawline, abs and height? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 03:38 PM |
| – | Theory: Red pill want to be upsetRead my post again, I didn't say it's a bad thing. Ok here let me copy-paste for you: I don't think these kinds of "inferiority" feelings can necessarily be eliminated. Maybe that's the wrong goal. What's better is to be aware that you have them, aware of their nature, and maybe eventually develop an art or skill in using them to your advantage, e.g. to acquire skills, to motivate productive work, to help others, etc. Any feeling can be used productively or destructively. Your negative feelings … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.We live in an age of information, if someone wants to understand the progression of gender over time all they need to do is open a history book. The red pill or any manosphere “information” isn’t needed for that. They need to be guided and led to that, otherwise in this day and age they'll just be dragged into the Instagram / TikTok / Facebook cesspool. Men present themselves as providers and what they’re providing is their income. If men want to be perceived and valued differently they should e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not?Agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 01:59 PM |
| 4 | Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not?I don't care about my genes and find this whole "gene-centred" Dawkins-style evolutionary psychology kind of a weird and modern phenomenon. What I want to pass on – have always wanted to pass on – is influence. I want to infect as many people as possible of all genders, ethnicities, ages, etc. with my own ways of thinking, which include reason, science, progress, spirituality, meditation and respect for the great art literature and music from all cultures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 01:20 PM |
| -1 | Theory: Red pill want to be upsetI'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying the desire to focus on it is worth calling out. Also I'm not saying it's 100% wrong to feel this way, actually I'm against simplistic stories about how people "should" feel. We can't force our feelings – that's psychology 101. If we can understand red pill as a psychological state, which confers advantages and disadvantages, well then we're making progress! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 05:57 AM |
| 0 | Theory: Red pill want to be upsetAgree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 05:56 AM |
| 0 | Theory: Red pill want to be upsetDid I ever once disagree with the factual assumptions of red pill? This isn't a critique/commentary on factual matters at all, it's about the psychology of the red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 05:55 AM |
| 0 | Theory: Red pill want to be upsetDone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 05:54 AM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.considering a man only/primarily in terms of his income (e.g.English upper classes, exemplified in Victorian romance novels) slavery (e.g. history of Haiti, US south pre-Civil-war) mistreatment of men in perceived lower-class or front-line or service occupations, treating them like a utility rather than a human being. young attractive women taking advantage by getting naieve young men to pay for dates, tuition, etc. and breaking their hearts (though this is hopefully becoming less common nowaday… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 04:33 AM |
| – | Men don't hate women; men hate that women deny their privilege.makes us see that many men barely regard us human, much less have empathy for us Aren't women often the same? Of course women can profess to value men as human beings. Most people profess to be good hearted and treat others with dignity. But sometimes actions speak louder than words... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 03:00 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?There are extremes of attractiveness/unattractiveness in both men and woman. There are women who are overweight, had 3 kids and live in a ghetto. You're giving an extreme example to try and disprove my point. Most men are 5'8 to 6'2 in height so most men are not destined to be unattractive. But most men have not studied what women are attracted to and so are probably not getting full "attractiveness utility" out of their genetically hard-wired looks. Also you shouldn't bring up ethnicity here; I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?We need to develop a new vision of masculinity, I can't give you a complete answer out-of-the-box but that's no reason to just give up before even trying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?They do though! In my experience women were attentive to my desires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?I'm gay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:57 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?They have explanatory power, just like any consumer good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?It's good that you started reading them with friends, that's what we need to do more as men, work together to solve these problems not just whine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:24 PM |
| -2 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?The Mona Lisa is porn on some level, come on. That smile is not non-erotic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?But they do though! Statistics show that a fair % of porn viewers are women! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:21 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?I feel like a lot of people here are oversimplifying romance novels and reducing them to surface level characteristics instead of looking at WHY women like those characters and characteristic. Agree. We need to look at these books as lens for understanding women, not a play-by-play instruction manual for "how to arouse women"! It's not literally about watching her sleep, its an exaggerated example that speaks to woman's core wants. Yes, art is usually an idealisation / dramatisation, not a liter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:13 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Ooooo let's avoid any possible chance of learning about women for fear of CRINGGGGE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 03:02 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?But women do actually watch porn to find out what men like. So actually they're ahead of us men in terms of "market research". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?I'm not saying we have to exactly emulate romance novels, that would be ridiculous. I'm saying that we could learn better about women by studying romance novels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:47 PM |
| 0 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Makes a lot of sense. Actually most human narratives (not just womens' romance novels) are built around the "setting - problem - resolution" arch. Human life seems to feature problems which are only resolved after some period of difficulty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?There's some truth to that, but the same kind of thing probably applies on the mens' side. Part of our enjoyment of sex is enjoying how powerful, virile, etc. a woman makes our own body feel. I mean we can get philosophical about this and say that, for all human beings male or female, from each individual's perspective, everyone they encounter is just a way of experiencing themselves or "props" as you put it. Or we can also go psychological/Freudian and say that everything is subliminally sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 12:49 PM |
| -2 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Do you want young indistinguishable airheads or do you want a woman of substance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 12:09 PM |
| -1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?But someone who is fit and takes care of their body surely is admirable. It shows they have discipline, persistence, etc. Those are good character traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:55 AM |
| -1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Hit the gym, go running, eat less, it's not rocket science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?being rich and hot is good There's somewhere to start! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Maybe she's worried that if you become too attractive another woman will steal your heart! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:44 AM |
| 0 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?I'm not saying it should be taken literally any more than reading the bible. But it might give men some idea of what women want, especially if men read broadly and bias toward the nobler forms such as great classic novels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:34 AM |
| -3 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Calorie restriction lengthens lifespan – why do you think Japanese people live longest? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:32 AM |
| 5 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Jeez I'd be happy to have just a dick that can break through nordic ice sheets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:30 AM |
| 0 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Indeed. With an income of at least £10,000 per year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:24 AM |
| -4 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?It's possible for most men to get chiseled abs. I visited Vietnam and even poor men there with their shirt off had 6 packs. We western men are overfed and under exercised. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:23 AM |
| -9 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?I think that's overgeneralising. You need to read a broad sampling of women authors not just some sensationalist pop trash. It's like comparing Plato to Richard Dawkins ... miles apart. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Why don't more men read womens' romance novels?Shamefully, I had to look up Gilbert Blythe on Wikipedia to find who he is. We actually had Anne of Green Gables playing on TV growing up, but I didn't pay enough attention to it, always too obsessed with computer games. Gilbert Blythe seems like actually good character for western men to strive to emulate in terms of being practical, reliable, intelligent, common-sense and well dressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 10:54 AM |
| 1 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be betterAgree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:31 AM |
| 3 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be betterNot for men though, since men are the "oppressors". That's the woke philosophy isn't it? Dehumanise anyone considered the "oppressor"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Are high SMV men happier single?I think low SMV men are happier single. As a low SMV man myself (but one who has scraped together a little wealth and a nice lifestyle) being single feels luxurious. I will never (willingly) give up the freedom, autonomy, self-direction that being single has given me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Are women "witholding affection from men"?I'm not claiming it's women who do this. It seems to be society in general, through advertising campaigns, topics of conversation in popular media, etc. etc. I'm not exactly sure which segment of society is pushing the pro-natalist propaganda but it seems like maybe elites such as corporate CEOs, politicians, etc. So I would like a very strong positive message to be sent out to men that "it's Ok to be single" and that they should not feel pressured to pursue women. I believe much of human behavi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Are women "witholding affection from men"?I don't think men can just "demand" for women to lower their standards . That isn't realistic and men who women aren't attracted to won't be suddenly found attractive because men demand women lower their standards. I completely agree. The solution thus is not for women to lower their standards. The solution is for we (as a society – media, government, etc) to stop with the incessant pushing of expectations of relationships and fertility onto men. Being a single working man (or retired by honest … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:16 PM |
| 2 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be better😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:06 PM |
| 7 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be betterIsn't excluding men from all social institutions the right thing to do though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:05 PM |
| -1 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be betterIn a world run and populated by women these jobs wouldn't be necessary because the female way of thinking and being is superior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:04 PM |
| 0 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be betterIs there any statistical evidence of this? Also can't we have "straight-to-gay" conversion therapy so straight women can become lesbians and then enjoy healthier relationships with the superior gender (women)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidThe issue I see here is that guys feel so butthurt that women won't overlook their shitty and often annoying personalities to bang them. Then instead of acknowledging their natural limitations and working with or against that, they see the fact and lose their fucking minds. Completely agree. They think they're entitled to women. They haven't internalised the fact that women now have a choice and can reject any man who is not good looking. They need to spend some time on self-reflection, perhaps … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 06:53 PM |
| -4 | Why does it seem women are a little more pushy with marriage than men?Women have sexual needs? 😂 Sorry... just... I find that humorous somehow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Nearly half (44%) of Gen Z young men haven't dated in their teenage yearsWhy is it such a bad thing? Relational skills could be developed in a more stimulating and nurturing environment than modern dating. Such as mentorships, peer groups, a good workplace, college or trade school or university. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't pick enoughWomens' looks standards are brutal on themselves actually. I feel sorry for them. Men should rather be applying more rational standards to ourselves and our potential partners such as goals, character, etc. If that results in staying single and not having a partner, so be it. I'd rather be single than compromise my principles on something so important as a life partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Men aren't pick enoughYes absolutely 100%. For this reason I strongly dislike and avoid the typical modern relationship. I've become much more focussed on developing friendships and alternative relationships which are as far removed as possible from anything similar to prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 03:17 PM |
| 4 | Men aren't pick enoughThis is based on a flawed 80s construct of "romance" which is really just pursuit of symbolic status and power. (Look at how hot my wife/partner is, I must be an above-average man) This is all based on a prior generation of massive population growth, economic growth and status anxiety. We don't live in that world anymore. The world we live in now calls for a partner who is "in the trenches with you", not some quasi-prostitute eye-candy hanging off your arm so you can "out-alpha" the other boys a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 10:55 AM |
| 0 | Men aren't pick enoughFemininity is also part of the "old way" of the prior generation. A woman spending a lot of her time on her looks and depending on a male breadwinner is just glorified prostitution. Having your own dedicated prostitute is simply not economically viable anymore even if you could somehow argue that it's ethical. What you want is a life partner (or two) where you can both be emotionally intimate and feel situationally connected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 10:52 AM |
| 3 | Men aren't pick enoughDoesn't have to be about grinding only, maybe you want a slow lifestyle, pursue frugality, live abroad in SE Asia, etc. etc. Whatever your goal is, you only want someone who is on the same journey, not waste your time with those who are on different journeys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 10:18 AM |
| 5 | Men aren't pick enoughWhy pursue those who distain you? Better to abstain until you are better networked (including with compatible men) and then better able to find the type of people/networks who won't distain you because you have similar goals and interests (and thus to distain you would be to distain themselves). Not only can you afford to be picky (there's nothing wrong with being single) you can't afford not to be. You will risk wasting your life (or a big chunk of it) with inappropriate people. YOLO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Men aren't pick enoughYes, it takes an essay to unpack such a broad concept as "interests" and bring it into the 21st century. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 10:12 AM |
| 5 | Men aren't pick enoughIt's about choosing the right "common". Not these: We go to the same school We live in the same town (or even country) We both have the same ethic background More these: We are both in a similar economic situation We are both aspiring for X by Y kind of means We both have X kind of lifestyle | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 10:10 AM |
| 2 | What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed?Evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 03:16 PM |
| 3 | What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed?Who wants to date someone with low standards? Someone who is low status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 03:14 PM |
| 3 | What is causing gen z men to be "pill theory" obsessed?There definitely were millennial incels who spouted pill/alpha/masculinity garbage among their incel friends in high school. I was one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 03:13 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?I don’t think black pill thinking is good either like that’s depressing af and I’m not supportive of something that can make someone like kill themselves or something. It's only depressing if you follow the heteronormative societal brainwashing that pushes people to couple up. It's much easier if you have community while staying single. Also avoiding women also doesn’t seem helpful like you’ll probably end up being socially fucked up . Only a little. There's plenty of space in society for single… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 03:06 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Like what’s the difference between what you just said about wives and gfs and the young men and boys who idolize men just because they have money and women. In a sense you haven’t escaped your programming you just twisted it in a way that gives you more hope. Hope and role models are powerful, you can use them to motivate achievement in your own life! I just wish there were more truly BlackPill figures who were single and preached abstinence from women, I think that would be an advantageous mind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 02:37 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?I think the foundation is Biological but society cranks it up if that makes sense. It's one capacity among many. Like even in nature if a male is rejected by a female it not uncommon for that male to lash out. Behaviour is pretty varied across species. Even in our closest relatives in terms of sexual behaviour, Chimpanzees, females mate with a lot of males and it's the males who limit access to females on some occasions. This isn't universally true of human sexual behaviour. I think a lot of hum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 02:32 PM |
| 0 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?It's hard to totally avoid society. E.g. just trying to get some food, you go to the supermarket, you're bombarded with advertising aimed at couples and couples with children and women. Then the women on the street walk bombastically and almost knock you off the sidewalk. Then you almost accidentally bump into a couple who are standing there in the middle of the sidewalk making out in full view. Or you want an education, so you join a university, but then the class is full of women who all give … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 02:03 PM |
| 2 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?This is pretty much what I do, it's actually a pretty nice life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 02:00 PM |
| 2 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Join the FIRE movement if you can! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 02:00 PM |
| 2 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Spot on! Add on to that various forms of discrimination, e.g. married men more likely to be hired and promoted, have a larger social circle, more respected, etc. Please don't get me wrong – I'm happy not to be married. I will gladly sacrifice all the above. I am happier to live true to myself than bend to whatever shape society wants. Anyway I live a healthy active lifestyle, so any years I lose from not being married I'll more than make up with in good habits. BTW I observe married men often li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:58 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Having a girlfriend/wife is a way many men try to communicate "I am a good, wholesome and respectable member of the community". I find this kind of absurd, since there are so many multitudes cases of men who had female partners going through breakups (including high profile like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos) or being discovered to be terrible in other ways, e.g. child abusers, corrupt, etc. Once you deprogram yourself from the matrix/bluepill you see very clearly how facile and frankly childish this p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:55 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?I think there are both biological and societal reasons why men crave that validation. Actually I believe it's almost entirely societal at this point. Porn, prostitution, etc. have pretty much eliminated the biological imperative. The societal effect is because the boomers and Xers are still entrenched in the old blue pill narratives and their influence is still prevalent in various media, cultural forms, etc. Little or nothing posted on RedPill forums and similar is sexual in nature. Almost all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:54 PM |
| 0 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Maybe there are a few good natured, humble women who genuinely appreciate men, but those pale in comparison to the number of women whose default mode towards men is spite and contempt. It's true, and not unlike other forms of prejudice, they're hardly aware of it, it's so normal to them that they don't notice! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:49 PM |
| 2 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?if it becomes significant, women need to start organizing and warning each other of potentially abusive, hateful, selfish and unreliable men who hide their toxicity but want to hurt us down the line. I'm thinking, similar to AWDTSG but maybe, AWDRP As a BlackPill I strongly agree! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:46 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Singledom is pretty good as a man too but they haven't woken up yet, probably because of cultural indoctrination, mass media, feminist narratives, etc. I believe there is a smaller redder red pill encased inside the red pill: A man can be happy without a woman! Without any woman! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:43 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?What if we're skeptical about the mainstream/lamestream narrative on dating and relationships that clearly don't work for us? What if we're thinking independently about our role in society and our futures? Is skepticism and independent thinking not allowed when it makes you feel uncomfortable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:39 PM |
| 0 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?I just want them to break out of their victim complex Just curious - how would that benefit you? and also RP rhetoric hurts people, it hurts them, it hurts the people around them Who exactly does it hurt? Men's issues are societally downplayed if not outright ignored. People apparently don't care. Why would someone feel hurt about a man in their lives if they don't care about that man? RP rhetoric has result in massacres seriously look it up. So if your goal is to prevent massacres, why not trea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?You can’t help wanting love and intimacy Actually you can gradually repress and diminish that desire by various means. I'm proud to have gotten probably more than halfway there. This repression is probably part of the utility RedPill and similar provides to its primary consumers. Painting women in a less flattering light makes you feel less sore about missing out. It's the old story of "the fox with sour grapes", which my profile is based on hehe you can choose not to stew in your loneliness on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:27 PM |
| 0 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?IMO a lot of it is about just trying to cope with society which constantly shoves women, dating, heterosexuality and feminism down our necks. Just to get some relief from this mass societal force-feeding, we seek a viewpoint that's refreshingly different and more relevant to our actual experiences and (god forbid) makes us feel good about ourselves and like we're more than ugly hairy apes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:23 PM |
| 1 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?Interesting post, thanks for sharing. I agree with a lot of that. One question: The average RPer isn't really spending that much time going to normal Internet forums and debating with normal people on such topics. Where are the "normal Internet forums" where people debate things like what women want, why some men are unattractive, etc? As far as I can tell, as soon as you debate these things, you're pretty much in a RedPill or adjacent community. There seem to be few or no venues online, in acad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:18 PM |
| – | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Yes. And then these popular guys who are getting lots of attention develop an inflated ego, which leads to them mistreating their mistresses, behaving entitled, abusive, creepy, etc. Then women who are on the receiving end of that complain and protest that "men are terrible". And every man suddenly has to carry the cross for the sins of the privileged few. And if we get angry or upset about this, women just tell us to stop being entitled, abusive, creepy, etc. because from womens' point of view,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:12 PM |
| 5 | RPers who refuse to simply Go Their Own Way, why?What you say is 100% true and in fact a core principle of Stoicism. But people don't know this, e.g. they haven't looked into Stoicism or really absorbed the ideas. You can know something intellectually but not process it emotionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/24 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?All women or just Christians? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I reckon that's a myth created by the powers that be to control us and keep us good little consumers, spending all our money on women. The human mind is flexible, if you want to have different desires you can change yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Ok I'm beginning to believe you. High status woman = her man is attractive to others but he denies them Low status woman = her man is desperate for others so he obliges them I guess the better look is if your husband is loyal but in demand. Though I wonder what kind of gymnastics it takes to be deemed "in demand" in order to make your wife feel high status enough that she won't divorce you. These kinds of questions are why I don't pursue marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I swipe right on everyone and never get anyone swipe me, not even one. But funny how when I switch it to "Men" suddenly the matches start flying in. This is why I wish I could become gay and am working on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 01:58 PM |
| 3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Not just sexual, imagine having clear guidelines on what is attractive (e.g. well established stereotypes such as "bears", "otters", etc), and feeling competent to find a partner within your league and not being trapped in horrible relationships out of desperation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/24 04:22 AM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I don't take offence to any of it. It's fine. Whatever. But we both know it's a ridiculously hypothetical conversation because no woman will ever want to be in 1000 KM of me to begin with let alone negotiate the terms of a relationship. I find it funny how women on Reddit seem to feel the need to push back against my assumption of being unattractive. What are you trying to prove by denying the obvious? Do you want to come across as someone who has a positive view of the world? Is it so important… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:39 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?no but it's how you turn those borderlines into a yes. Haven't you been following #MeToo and the plentiful "no means no" campaigns? Women regard this kind of pushiness as sexual harassment. It is not attractive or desired. The idea that women ever found that attractive was in mens' heads all along, and the only way men convinced themselves to believe it was because they had outsized power due to the patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I just go by how women react to me, subtle body language, facial expressions, etc. I get the hint pretty quickly when I'm not wanted. Even more so over the course of years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?It sounds weird when womens' desires are spelled out into stark language doesn't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:24 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?Yes because no woman ever likes a guy enough to respond anything more than overt and persistent and highly skilled flirtation, which is why only a certain type of man can succeed with them. And BTW there are very real risks involved in flirtation, such as being accused of sexual harassment and forced to pay penalties or even do jail time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Women are controlling it, since women are the gatekeepers to sex and relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:21 PM |
| – | Mental issues are not as prevalent source of problems as you might thinkThat's the reality of our lives as men, women can't comprehend that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I want to give up. I just find women who I encounter generally obnoxious. Women don't need or want me. They act in every possible way to repel me Why should I make any effort? I wish I was gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:19 PM |
| 8 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?Back in the day women needed men, now they don't. Anyway I hate talking to women so much it's like pulling teeth. I'd rather become gay somehow. I'm trying to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Men don't deserve it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Thanks for not denying it or blaming me for it, that really helps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I know I know. Women and Chads are in the right, I'm in the wrong. I get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?You can say whatever you want but women as a whole will be better off ripping the bandaid fast than slow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:05 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?Oh god no. Trying to plan talking to a chick in advance like it's a dialogue tree is an awful idea. It's much more like learning how to improv. Speak for yourself. I went in head first with no plan plenty of times, and like I said, many pleasant conversations composed of mainly forgettable small talk and zero numbers or dates. I think going out and trying to speak with strangers is about the worst possible way of meeting a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?There’s no height requirement for meeting a great woman, either. I know because I have numerous guy friends varying from 5’3” to 5”7’, I.e., short, and they all have wonderful long time girlfriends or wives. Maybe those women are hard up for money and need someone to provide financially. Did you measure them to actually verify that they are that height? I don’t understand the rest of your argument, but I have no problem with women and would be hair to see both men and women in abertura having a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:02 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Sure, and those ideas no doubt infect everything from my tone of voice to how I walk to what colour combinations I wear. So it really is a most hopeless situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:58 PM |
| 2 | What are some opinions related to social settings that are much more popular on Reddit than IRL?Republicans getting in the way of progress as always. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:57 PM |
| 4 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Actually there is a study somewhere that found more genetic difference between men and women than between humans and chimpanzees. It's buried in some lengthy Yale lecture, I'll try to dig it up. I just think women just have a totally different psychology altogether about dating and relationships. What women want in men is almost polar opposite of what men want in women. So much of how women think and act is like a hostile alien culture to me. This is a big part of why I wish I was gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:55 PM |
| 3 | Dating Simplified: People's best match are other people in the same (similar) profession!Software engineering in various domains. Always male dominated. Whenever there were women they'd be in another department or heck another building. And super cliquey and keep to themselves and their kind of men and avoid us like we had some kind of disease. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:49 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?It's not just balls, and there's so much more to it than just going up and saying "hi". If anything that's the easiest part. There are multiple stages of "seduction", there are many different tactics depending what happens next, everything has to be planned for in advance. It's no wonder to me that it took years for some of the popular PUA guys to get any results. I went out a few times doing it and never got further than a brief polite awkward small talk conversation. PUA is practically a full … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I can't tell who's with who TBH. You should just admit that you wish most of us would disappear from your lives. Men will figure this out eventually anyway. You won't benefit from trying to somehow hide or lie about it. It's better if women tell the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:43 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?If that's been your experience you're fortunate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:41 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Good. Remember, you can't possibly benefit by helping me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Oh ok thanks for the newsflash, I guess I was ignorant and misinformed. If I ever have another relationship with a woman again (which is highly unlikely) I'll make sure to assert my desire for exclusivity in a careful and measured way according to the woman's agreement, comfortable in the fact that it is not, in fact, un-feminist for me as a man to assert this particular category of personal preference in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:36 PM |
| 3 | What are some opinions related to social settings that are much more popular on Reddit than IRL?You know the real solution though - the government should subsidise women-only gyms so that they are cheaper than regular gyms! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:33 PM |
| 4 | What are some opinions related to social settings that are much more popular on Reddit than IRL?Would you rather pay $60+ a month at LR with their old machines and every other treadmill doesn’t work? or $20 at a brand new gym? I think Bally’s was around 70-80 a month when my dad was going there. I guess eliminating men wasn't worth $40 per month. That makes me feel a little less hated by women, thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Tones of women screwing a few lucky men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I think they'd find it hot actually. Women crave sex with a powerful man. Sex is just another kind of power. It's all power to women which is attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I wouldn't care either way tbh, I've had both happen. These days it's not PC to desire any kind of exclusiveness to any relationship. Unattractive low SMV men like me are supposed to shut up and put up with anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?At least there isn't a hard height requirement for making money. It’s complicated because these men aren’t coming up with their defeatist ideology on their own — there’s a whole network of men supporting themselves in their belief that the world is set against them and dating is basically impossible. We don’t have power over what people say online, but we have some power over our own beliefs. And these defeatist beliefs are both harmful and false, so drop them How do you benefit by telling me to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I bet you never ever had a relationship with a poly man who wasn't already with at minimum one woman. So on a larger scale I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same old 1:10 ratio of men to women. If there was a subculture where men had practically the same chances of dating as women you can bet it would be quickly overrun by desperate single men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Do you feel the same way about poor people? Like they just need to improve their attitude then they could become millionaires. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Women get turned on by their guy being attractive to other women, and picking her anyway. There are studies that show that women are more upset by emotional infidelity whereas men are more upset by sexual infidelity. So I'm guessing women like a high status guy who is emotionally beholden to them somehow but sexually they couldn't care less what he does. The reality is they don’t know they’re not in a monogamous relationship I think women are slowly finding out that they've been dating the same … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:03 PM |
| 1 | How quickly do women know they want to pursue a relationship/sex with a man?There are some behaviours that are pretty common, almost universal, in women though. And in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?In no particular order Walk in the middle of the footpath, taking up most of the space, extremely forcefully and brusquely, looking straight ahead, practically forcing me off the footpath and onto the road where I risk being hit by a car or on to the dirt Pushing and shoving in front of me in an obnoxious manner when I'm about to enter or exit a building, even when I literally stand there and wait for them to pass, still feeling the need to push past me and make me feel "pushed aside" Walking ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Where do you suppose I got this self-defeating attitude from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:46 PM |
| – | Mental issues are not as prevalent source of problems as you might thinkGood work on the weight loss, I'm also working on losing weight. I have had little or no success with women. I am working to become gay. There's much more enjoyment to be had in life than just women/dating trust me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:33 PM |
| – | Mental issues are not as prevalent source of problems as you might thinkWell put, actually many happiness studies show that people in some poorer countries can report greater happiness than people in richer countries and also that social comparison can plan an important role in one's perception of happiness and wellbeing. That's not to say that rich countries aren't overall better off than poor countries. But just that in some specific spheres like dating and social life they might be worse off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:30 PM |
| – | Mental issues are not as prevalent source of problems as you might thinkThanks u/Particular_Trade6308 for telling the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I'll be honest with you, most of the time, in public, the general vibe I get is very negative. I don't feel merely unattractive. I feel actively loathed and despised by women. And I feel sorry for those women having to endure the pain of my existence. For their sake alone, if not my own, I would prefer to be separate from them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Maybe the problem is with America’s increasingly cartoonish norms of masculinity? I mean, American femininity is messed up, too. Oh I agree. E.g. the idea that a man under 6 foot tall is unattractive, flat out ridiculous! And the idea that women are only attractive in high heels and wearing copious amounts of makeup - absurd! But if so many women would prefer to be alone than deal with an American man, it seems like the problem is American men. They could start by getting out of their heads and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Are you sure? I think women actually get turned on by their guy being attractive to other women. And women also seem to enjoy their guy oppressing other beta males. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:17 PM |
| 5 | What are some opinions related to social settings that are much more popular on Reddit than IRL?Why aren't female-only gyms big business now? If they're in such high demand, you would think someone would try to make money off it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:15 PM |
| 8 | What are some opinions related to social settings that are much more popular on Reddit than IRL?Right on! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Yeah let's have it now. Do you not agree that most women would prefer most men simply not exist in their worlds? If so maybe we should move toward a gender-separated society, for the sake of women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:11 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I confess to being a bit intimidated and stressed by the prospect of meeting a whole bunch of random people who already probably hold very negative views of men and then having the added stress of trying to appear attractive to these random people and then the added stress that if one of them did ever date me, then she could find legal means to take half my money by claiming it was a "de-facto relationship". I'm sure you'll be able to prove that this is all 100% my fault somehow. But it doesn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: For the men here who have suffered with dating struggles where they want to find a partner but can't, were you able to open up to your male friends about your struggles? If so, how did they respond? And do you believe we should talk more about this as men?They give me the advice I probably need: go out and meet more women, flirt more, get confident, etc... They'll give me their own escalation tips and all that. Sounds like pick up artistry. but it's a lot less shameful to be incelly when your friends are super cool Why should anyone ever be ashamed to be unattractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:00 PM |
| 6 | Debunking the discourse surrounding the 63% - 34% single men vs single women statoverall attempt to depict lonely men as victims of a new gynocentric society where men are left in rot because of women's standards surpass which the lowly everyman could ever hope meet Sorry but this is perfect description of our society in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Dating Simplified: People's best match are other people in the same (similar) profession!100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Dating Simplified: People's best match are other people in the same (similar) profession!Most people in my field are men and the women avoid us like the plague. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:47 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Well they can't have their cake and eat it too. Either they lower their standards to find someone exclusive or they keep their high standards and share with 20 other women. There aren't an infinite supply of 6'0 tall men ready to commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Why shouldn't we give up? We're clearly not interesting to women on the whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:44 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Women hate men these days, it's simply that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Hiking, being in nature, feeding wild birds (with appropriate kinds of food for their diet), swimming, jogging, reading, philosophy, history, travel, minimalism, frugality, investing. I think there aren't many venues to do anything socially and in person where I live and if there were, you can bet they would mostly be attended by men, since women seem to generally avoid any kind of event that isn't already populated by women (probably out of fear of men, sexual harassment, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?My mum is from a bygone era where marriage meant something, but yeah I reckon she'd get a thrill out of some woman admiring her man. If women didn't like being cheated on, lied to, promises broken, etc. then maybe they shouldn't exclusively date the men who are most tall, popular and admired and almost certainly sleeping with many other women. Maybe they should give some poor lowly pathetic schmuck like me a chance. At least go out to a quick coffee and watch a movie or something. And if men gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?We are and women en-masse are voting with their feet that most men are unworthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Women don't seem interested in anything I'm interested in and I don't want to join a social group solely to meet women because that would probably come off as "creepy" etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I think the ideal society for women will be one in which they simply never encounter any men except the top 1% most tall and traditionally attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:30 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?It'll become more feminist at least because women are becoming wealthier than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Care to elaborate? Is the polyamory scene not dominated by a small number of men relative to the women in that scene? I've seen this phenomenon on polyamory dating websites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:26 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I get that feeling very strongly but it might just be my problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?That's true, women generally try to avoid me, I guess I'm not dressed well enough usually to be considered part of the human race. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I get the feeling women secretly enjoy being cheated on, actually it gives them social status, because it proves that their man is still attractive to other women. No woman wants to be seen dead with a man who isn't popular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:21 PM |
| 5 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Thanks, I hope more of society will get on board with this idea, I think it would help a lot of men out of their misery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:18 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I think women will adapt to it, they would still prefer to date the same guy than to be seen within 100 miles of a man they're unattracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:18 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I know. And lack of experience is a massive turn-off to women. So the problem compounds as a man gets older, until he ends up being of negative attraction, i.e. actively repels women. I know... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?"most men" are not abusive and violent. Really? Wow! This is the first time in my life I've ever heard this said by a woman! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Most women won't marry or settle, they'll prefer to remain single. That's how unattracted to men they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?The ven diagram of the world of dating, relationships and sex looks like a massive circle (women) overlapping with a tiny circle (men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:12 PM |
| -1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Because you have a fundamental lack of knowledge of polyamory vs polygamy. You got yourself all lathered up because it supports your confirmation bias. You're right I have a bit of confirmation bias. My prior belief is that women don't prefer to date that many men, only the ones who are at the top of the pyramid. So while women will describe their lifestyle as "polyamory", the reality will be more like a kind of "hegemonic polygamy" where a small pool of men are rotated among a larger pool of wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?67.8% of men in the US are married. It's an ageing population. Older generations are probably more traditional minded. I'm curious what the statistics are like in the under-40s bracket. That is the result of dating choices by men and women. We live in a patriarchy though, so don't you think a lot of marriage is really kinda coerced by men? I spend lot of time with the men I find attractive. Never once wanted to be married and not allowed to date others. And I am poly! I support my male partners … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:06 PM |
| 5 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I understand this concept. So women who live in a household together sharing a man would know each other right? So therefore I think they would get along, eventually at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Depends what you call it I guess. Virtual harem is a bit off-putting, I get that. Maybe "virtual sex group" is nicer? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Aren't most men abusive, violent and generally horrible in relationships? So therefore most male-female relationships are unhealthy. So therefore maybe it's a reasonable ask for a man to disappear whenever the woman wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:01 PM |
| 4 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?"I would personally advise most men to become gay" Please elaborate. Sure! It's simple: if most men are unwanted by most women, then those men would be better off seeking out other men. If it's possible that some kind of therapy, brain surgery or other treatment could help the straight men to cultivate an attraction to other men - in effect to become gay - this would be to their advantage, as it would result in greater likelihood of success in dating, sex, etc. I know you probably don't like thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?A large number of women rotate between a tiny number of men. Not technically polygamy but there does seem to be an element of monpolization in this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:56 PM |
| 3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?And yet most men still end up in relationships with women. Evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:53 PM |
| 4 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?But through their dating choices they are effectively ensuring that a tiny number of men sleep with most of the women. I don't see how this is not moving in the direction of polygamy? Or are you claiming that, because no one man is with any fixed group of women for any length of time, therefore it's not polygamy? But how do you know it won't tend that way in future, as these women want to spend more time with the men they find so attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Yeah a few and also I've observed groups of women from a distance and noticed that they seem to be often smiling, laughing, giggling, hugging and generally really enjoying each others company to the max. I don't observe this in men where I live. It's extremely much more rare to see men in groups at all When they are in groups, it's very small groups, like 2 or maybe 3 men max They seem to have a kind of grim look on their faces and not talk much and keep their voices down and their eyes somewhat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:49 PM |
| 3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Mid-30s. 5'8, so not very attractive. You can sense the intel vibes can't you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:46 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Sorry. Do you think it's quite common that a woman wishes her male partner to disappear for quite a long while? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:45 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I do polyamory. And I would say that it's pretty feminist and getting more popular. But the idea that polygamy is what any feminists want is insane. Would you care to define the difference between the two in application? If you are really worried about abused kids then you should support free birth control, abortion and a larger social safety net. I 100% support all of the above. I just hope that if harems is how it's going to be, then children don't become victims of the men in such scenarios. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?It would be sustainable if women are in control of the society though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I sleep better when I understand what's going on even if the reality is painful. I prefer pain + certainty over uncertainty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:41 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Marriage-wise yes but it's not illegal for multiple women to sleep with the same man, it's quite normal in fact. Eventually women will form relationships with these men and then they will have to change the law to allow for a contract. Now I guess they won't call it "polygamy" because that would sound too patriarchal. I guess they'll name it something more fashionable like... oh I dunno... "polyamory" perhaps? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:39 PM |
| -2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?There are zero women advocating for men to have multiple wives lmfao. Not openly and not yet, it's still taboo, give it time! The overwhelming majority of women (and men) prefer monogamy, or serial monogamy If it's serial monogamy with the same tiny pool of men, then I guess it's a time-sharing system. Which is totally Ok and fine, but are we ready as a society to cope with power imbalances that might result? Women will not share husbands if they can’t find what they want. They will reject long … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:38 PM |
| -1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?How do you reckon I came to such a severe misunderstanding after watching a Big Think video? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:35 PM |
| -1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Yes, one partner for life is seen as parochial, overly Christian, authoritarian, even (shudder) patriarchal! I think the ideal social order for women would be a tiny number of high quality men and otherwise just women and no men at all! So I just hope they send us unfortunate "loser men" to some not-too-harsh camps where we can have some peace and quiet and maybe a few mental health counsellors to help us cope with the change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:34 PM |
| 3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?My attempts to become involved in the poly community (though attending quite a number of meetups in my city) mostly resulted in me being ignored and avoided and given dirty looks, similar to the other newbie men who showed up. A few very popular and horrid looking but high social status men and their girlfriends seemed to dominate the scene. So my experience with the poly community is not 0, more like -5 or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:31 PM |
| -2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?You don't think most women most of the time don't want a man to not exist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:29 PM |
| -3 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Women don't consciously want to compete with other women, but I think it's more of a fait-accompli at this point. Women are putting a lot of effort into their appearance still, and yet only dating a small percentage of available men. So whether they realise it or not, women are basically becoming part of these mens' virtual harems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I will admit that my understanding of feminism is limited, but to the best of my knowledge, none of them are actively calling for men to be allowed to marry multiple women and for power to be concentrated in the hands to a small number of powerful men - that would be the polar opposite of a feminist society. Really? How so? If women are happy with this, who are we, the masses of inferior men, to question this? Women could still be in charge of finances, could still be put in powerful political p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:24 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Well sure they're not mutually exclusive. As I mentioned in other comments, the masses of women could share amongst themselves a tiny pool of top 10% elite men, who they could semi-frequently rotate. So the social order would look like a tiny number of men and most women as the upper-middle-class and a large number of single lonely isolated men as a permanent underclass, kind of like a caste system. Call it "caste-polyamory". Sounds much cooler and hipper than polygamy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Just the fact that womens' dating preferences on apps skew to a tiny fraction of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Modern relationships you mean? Do you have evidence of this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:19 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?How are women not choosing polygamy by limiting their dating to men who are already popular with women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Oh really? You're saying that in polyamory there isn't a top echelon of men who totally dominate the dating market in a "winner-take-all" fashion while the rest of the men are kicked to the curb, shunned and ridiculed? Well that polyamory sounds great, sign me up! However I sense Louise Perry is anticipating the more polygamous style of relationships, and that does unfortunately (for men) seem consistent with the data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:17 PM |
| 0 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Why not? Women seem to get on pretty well together generally. Women are more socially connected than men these days. Who knows, some beautiful lesbian relationships might form! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:15 PM |
| -1 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?I don’t think that women even like virtual harem Are you sure of that? I've heard women complain so much about men being too desperate, too pushy, domineering, etc. Wouldn't it be a perfect scenario for a woman to date a high quality man who will easily disappear whenever she doesn't feel like being around him because he can go see another one of this x00s of girlfriends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:13 PM |
| -2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Ok maybe that's dating culture, but most women will still only want to marry top 10% of men, so somehow, polygamy seems inevitable, or at least some kind of pooled / time-sharing system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:11 PM |
| -6 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Well right now maybe not but maybe in the future they will want to be in the same household if not have children as much. Or maybe past a certain age women aren't interested in sex or men. Or maybe they could become lesbians. (I would personally advise most men to become gay.) But I have a sense the men who are Chads now will continue to be successful and their success will only compound on itself and increase further, leading to dazzling inequalities in the dating market. It seems like this is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:10 PM |
| -6 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?You're speaking for women, but the stats on dating apps speak for themselves, it seems women are happy to be in virtual harems at least, possibly even real-life harems eventually! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:06 PM |
| -2 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?Sorry I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you claiming that western society is not currently moving toward polygamy? Or are you claiming that western society is currently regressing in terms of womens' rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:04 PM |
| 5 | Have we considered the costs of a polygamous society?If dating app stats are anything to go by, most women are only interested in a tiny number of men. With so few attractive men to go round, if women want at least semi-frequent access to a man, it seems like, if not polygamy, at least some kind of "time-share" system is inevitable. I suppose it could be engineered in a cloud-computing fashion to keep things decoupled. I.e. a woman could subscribe to a pool of top 10% men, rotating among the men. That way she could enjoy the freshness of meeting a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 07:00 PM |
| 3 | Why are women very uninterested in dating/sleeping with younger menI'd totally hang out with her, it would be interesting to talk about history, life, etc. I found older women to be more cultured and sophisticated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 06:53 PM |
| – | Most men dropped out of dating pool, Testosterone Level droppingI was following you until this part: Consequently, the few viable options for women amidst the plethora of men often result in minimal effort and commitment, leading to frustration and unhappiness for women. Who says women are frustrated and unhappy about this? My observation is women in the west have tried casual-polygamy and found that is suits them just fine. I think men (as partners) are basically consumer products for women now, similar in a way to how prostitution works for men. To rekindl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 06:39 PM |
| 5 | Why are women very uninterested in dating/sleeping with younger menSure in fact I have! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 05:59 PM |
| 0 | Why are women very uninterested in dating/sleeping with younger menIt's funny how we're supposed to believe that women are attracted to men when they are busy searching for any possible reason to avoid and reject men! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 05:45 PM |
| – | "Everybody dies alone" No shit, but a lot of men are spending their prime years aloneI think a lot of men labor under the mistaken idea that women should like them as they are. Maybe that's what their moms told them when they were little. I don't know, but there is no real reason that should be true. Women are not obligated to like you as you are. That's not what I see. I see men trying hard. Working hard at gym. Dieting. Working on their careers. Researching what women want. Trying pick-up artistry. I see lot of mens' beauty and hygiene products in the supermarket, lots of ads … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 04:34 PM |
| – | "Everybody dies alone" No shit, but a lot of men are spending their prime years aloneVery true points. Millions of men died in the world wars, sacrificed by Hitler and Stalin, not to mention the Allied deaths. Australia lost a big chunk of its male population. In medieval Russia the serfs could be beaten by their landlords. We're better off now than in times past but there's no point in pretending that women or anyone really cares about our social or dating lives. Those are up to us to make do the best we can. Funny that they don't offer straight-to-gay conversion therapy... som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 04:12 PM |
| – | "Everybody dies alone" No shit, but a lot of men are spending their prime years alonethink about it for a second just how absurd it is. There are millions of eligible women out there and man guys can't get ONE (1) girlfriend. Not a threesome, just one girl to go out with them. Reality is stranger than fiction! Some of the top 10% of men are having actual threesomes, because women are just that desperate for them. Meanwhile the rest are starved or go without. Women seem to prefer this – from their perspective it's a golden age in dating! Also it's not just dating ... look at bill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 04:07 PM |
| 4 | Why do women like giving blowjobs?But you haven't enjoyed my service yet! 😘 But anyway you're welcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 04:00 PM |
| – | Low expectations, high effort?I think you gotta be the best at being you, whoever you are. I'm a short guy with an OKish face. I try to compensate by being strong, tough, high-energy, etc. But that's all an act just for my own amusement. I actually don't give a damn about women and haven't gotten laid for ages. It's about creating your own image of yourself, your own "ideal you", then building yourself into that. Presenting yourself to the world in all your beauty and savagery. With no goal, no one external to impress, just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 03:53 PM |
| – | For the men who believe having a high body count positively contributes to their status, how does it translate in reality?I once considered buying bras and practicing on my own to try and get this right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 03:25 PM |
| 5 | Why do women like giving blowjobs?P.S. A lot of dudes love to eat pussy. I confess to being one of them. 😊 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 01:07 PM |
| – | If women desire commitment and men desire sex, why does the former prefer already committed ones but the latter doesn't?I wouldn't go beating people up but I don't know your situation, maybe it was self-defence? I didn't now you were Indian, I hope my cultural references weren't too insensitive. I agree with you, India is the origin of many great traditions Buddhism, etc. I believe Indians knew quite a lot of math independently / before the Greeks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 11:04 AM |
| 1 | But why is it kinda easy for girls to date girls?How much of these statistics are society's fault for not being tolerant / accepting enough of gay, bisexual, trans, etc. people? Also, just because statistics are against you is no reason not to try to be the exception to the rule and achieve success in whatever gender combination your relationships falls into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:59 AM |
| 2 | But why is it kinda easy for girls to date girls?Interesting quote, I need to look into Osho, thanks for sharing. Almost like applying to an ivy league college….a great GPA doesn’t -alone- mean you’re getting in, but a bad one certainly ensures you’re not. Another similarity to Ivy League college is that it's expensive and of questionable benefit for many pursuants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:53 AM |
| 1 | But why is it kinda easy for girls to date girls?Note: I'm a male, apologies in advance, I know you were mainly looking for bi women to answer this. It's the same for gay men - for gay men, even twink/femme men, dating is easier than opposite sex (not perfect but better). People find it easier to be attracted to whatever is similar to them (not the same but similar in some way). TBH, I half believe that most humans are homosexual or bisexual and have just suppressed that impulse out of societal pressure. The heterosexual mindset is rampant in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:48 AM |
| – | If women desire commitment and men desire sex, why does the former prefer already committed ones but the latter doesn't?Nice opinion. Thanks Although I used to doubt my masculinity at first, I stopped a while ago when I realised it doesn't have anything to do with at all. That's a powerful mindset because it opens you to a broader pallet of thoughts, reactions, strategies, etc. Personally as far back as I can remember I was always inwardly contemptuous of any thing/person that attempted to define my masculinity for me. To me, to be masculine is simply to be as effective as possible, within my unique circumstances… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 10:19 AM |
| – | If women desire commitment and men desire sex, why does the former prefer already committed ones but the latter doesn't?My opinion... Women desire both commitment and sex, similar to how men desire both a good job and a nice car. It's just that they desire different attributes from each. For commitment: women prefer all the things that come to mind if you stop and think about it: mental stability, friendliness, safety, nice conversation, etc. For sex: women prefer whatever turns them on, same as men. For various evolutionary/biological and cultural reasons, this often is behaviour that would otherwise be deemed a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 09:48 AM |
| – | Low expectations, high effort?Exactly! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/24 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Changed your mind about height? Well you might find hair aesthetically superior to height in the abstract, but I'm pretty sure most other women won't! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 10:20 AM |
| 0 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Ok well I stand corrected there, but still the principle holds. Your eyes would linger more on a tall but otherwise pathetic man than on a man who had everything a woman could possibly desire except height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Low expectations, high effort?Agree, it's better to do it for yourself, self-motivation is underrated in many areas of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 02:52 AM |
| 0 | Low expectations, high effort?I would probably come off as a creep and be escorted out the building by security (it was a shopping mall). But I just revel in the fact that I can leave an impression with women in a split second due to my own hard work on my body. Those lucky to be born tall are unlucky in one respect: they may never understand the satisfaction of earning respect! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 02:51 AM |
| 0 | Low expectations, high effort?Nothing is 100% impossible. 😄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 07:51 PM |
| – | Guys, maybe you’re just as hypergamous as the ladies…Nobody uses "sex is universally valued no matter who you have it with" as an argument for why gay dudes should be able to fuck them in the ass. Pardon my language. This demonstrates how much women enjoy sex with men ... about as much as a straight guy does! 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 07:05 PM |
| – | Guys, maybe you’re just as hypergamous as the ladies…I guess they've copped enough abuse from the feminist propaganda they don't need more being spewed at them within their own home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?I don't want to be in a relationship with a woman who is completely unattracted to me and is just in it due to social pressure. That's like communism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?I've also never met a single man who's offered to make me a home-cooked meal that wasn't microwavable. I've offered to cook for quite a few women and men, and not even with a relationship intention, e.g. my sister and also couple who I'm friends with. It's always been turned down. People just don't seem to want me to cook for them ... ever. I really think this cooking thing is overrated. Men don't need women to cook. If all women suddenly disappeared from the face of the earth, men would have no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?I have a terrible personality because I dare to stand up for myself against unfair treatment? "Just shut up and take whatever we throw at you, otherwise you have a bad personality" Wow sounds like a nice relationship dynamic. What I fool I was to think I could be happy as single! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?I'm not convinced about height not being important. Penis size yeah maybe. I can fully picture a woman going for a guy with a member 2 inches long as long as he's 6'0 tall and she can show him off to her friends to prove how high status she is in her friend group. The impression I get about womens' love lives is that they're intensely social and extremely focussed on social status accorded by the specific man she is able to plausibly appear, in front of female friends, coworkers, etc., to be in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?"feign weaponized incompetence" .. wow that's a mouthful. It's funny that men, who usually like to be competent, capable, etc., would just pretend to be incompetent at some specific arbitrary thing like cooking. Nonsense! Men are bullied and chased out of food preparation areas by women very often. Why is BBQ considered such a masculine pastime in many countries? Because it's the one venue where men actually have a chance of doing some cooking without being scolded and chased. It would be nice i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?The shorter women still want taller men! I know a Brazilian guy who is almost the same height as me and has a wife so maybe you have a point. But I worry that they would expect me to speak their language and if not then they would just want to get money out of me then dump my ass! But anyway thanks for the suggestion. You give me ideas... I should go learn Spanish... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:29 PM |
| 0 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Do you ever get this uneasy feeling, in the back of your mind, that you compromised? Imagine if you waited just 1 or 2 more years ... searched around a bit ... you might've found your 6'0 tall stallion! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Encourage people to pair up, have kids and get married. That will just lead to polygamy being legalised so Elon and other top-status men can be "married" to hundreds of woman and have tens of thousands of children. If there are more single women then there are more opportunities for men to find a partner (in theoretical potential at least). And if a lot of men can't find a partner, like me, at least we won't be socially demonised over it. The last thing we want to do is encourage this "have as m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Single people are always on the prowl. Wow way to stereotype a whole category of people! And often unhappy that they’re single. You're a mind-reader? Conversely, when I was single, I didn’t want to hang around boring marrieds (ew!), especially those with kids (double ew!) I hang with couples, gay guys (I'm bi), siblings, parents, collegiates, people on Reddit like you, etc. The single life doesn't have to be isolated. BTW, being in a couple can also be a pretty lonely isolating experience if you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?That's a narrative I mostly see pushed by men in Hollywood. I see the "pro-relationships" narrative showing up in all kinds of places. Anywhere from big flashy pictures of couples and families in IKEA stores to seemingly every podcaster on the planet having to drone on and on about their wife and kids. It seems there's a whole layer or class of society that steadfastly wants to push this stale conformist conservative agenda. I find it even more sickening when it's coupled with a kind of Swedish … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Not true of me. I totally accept cooking/cleaning and working on my emotional intelligence, e.g. I have been listening to women, reading feminist literature, working with a therapist, etc. Apart from my Mum dominating the kitchen growing up and a few random social occasions where I was pressured to join in eating, I have cooked all my own meals my whole life after leaving home. Also it's not just me, my Dad did most of the cleaning around the house and cooked a few times too, when my Mum wasn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:59 PM |
| 0 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Yes and especially: stop all the media bias that favours traditional male/female relationships over single hood. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Balding is a bit easier to treat and diet can help. Height is practically impossible to do anything about and, unfortunately, is the one thing women seem to crave the most. I believe this Redditor even said in a different post that she'd date a man who is bald and not cute as long as he's tall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:52 PM |
| 0 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?If you're not tall and handsome, being bald is not going to be considered cute. If you're not tall, throw everything else out the window! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Is he 6'0 tall? (Or whatever the latest female-empowerment minimum-height regulation standard is?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Seriously? I thought womens' empowerment ended this kind of judgement, at least for women. There's so much media, corporate propaganda, etc. pushing the idea of successful single women. Beyonce did a whole song called "All the single ladies'. Anyway why can't you just lie and tell your co-workers that you're married? Or become a lesbian, apparently a lot of women prefer other women anyway. Anyway since women all seem to want a man who's above-average height, has excellent social skills and a thr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Then there's alimony, divorce court, child payments (even if the man never wanted a child!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:38 PM |
| 7 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Men age faster / worse than women and now women don't need mens' money either. So men are basically losing all their bargaining chips as time progresses. There's an obvious inequality in attractiveness - women will always be in more demand and less supply at all ages, because they look better than men. In light of this, maybe men should seriously consider whether any relationship with any woman is likely to last. As the man's market value diminishes and the woman's market value increases, the in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:36 PM |
| 8 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?There's some truth to assortative mating for long-term relationships. For a one night stand / some fun, sure the college chick sounds enticing. But for a relationship, what if you're saddled with helping her pay off student debt or dealing with her crazed abusive ex who she met in her rural low-wage job? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:29 PM |
| 0 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?I'm not angry at you, but I just wish women / society would admit that a fairly large chunk of men in this world are simply doomed to be single for no fault of their own and stop marketing relationships as such an important priority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:22 PM |
| -1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?See how you're 5'4 but your minimum is 5'9. But a fair number of men, including myself, are under that height. So even shorter women will still prefer taller than average men. It doesn't matter that I'm fit, toned, dress well and earn 100k+, just a couple of inches of height ruins my chances with any women (short or tall). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men hit the wall when women became educated and financially independent?Only with a high status man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Low expectations, high effort?Actually I sometimes even go a step further and deliberately cultivate a kind of aloof, disinterested attitude. I enjoy messing with the heads of those who act superior and expect me to pursue and drool over them. Doesn't mean I never ask people out or initiate contact, but I just do so at a slow cadence with calm, cool language. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 01:08 PM |
| 2 | Low expectations, high effort?It probably takes years for a lot of people because of the social conditioning like you say and because there's no one in their life teaching them any better way. This is why I try to spread the action minus expectations philosophy as widely as I can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Low expectations, high effort?I agree with you generally but with social interactions, I don't think the key is to have "no agenda" but rather to make it clear in various ways what your agenda is. E.g. if you just enjoy someone's company you can indicate that with compliments in that direction, and they'll appreciate it but also it will give them clarity. If you want to get intimate with someone, there are ways to indicate that as well, that should also give them clarity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Low expectations, high effort?For me getting shredded is more than pussy, it's about staying sharp, feeling good, saving on health bills down the track. But I have to admit there is also a little pleasure from contemptuously looking down my nose at the "fitness proletariat", being visibly and mentally faster and better than they and their pretty faces will ever be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Low expectations, high effort?If it works for you, great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Low expectations, high effort?Mental gymnastics are a big part of life. We each have a cerebral cortex for better or worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Low expectations, high effort?On an individual level, if you don't know how bad it's rigged, a good strategy is to invest enough effort to maximise your chances but not so much effort that you feel regret if it doesn't pay off. Basically keep your life interesting/enjoyable enough that you'll be Ok if none of the women-related stuff ever pays off, similar to playing the lottery. Remembering that you'll also regret not making any effort at all because you'll be tormented by not knowing what could've been possible if you'd tri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 12:45 PM |
| 1 | Low expectations, high effort?Instead you and your friends should have gone for enjoying the trip and maybe getting laid as a minor side-act. The trip would be ruined if you weren't having fun. With this kind of attitude I got laid randomly during a trip overseas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Low expectations, high effort?🙇🙏 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Low expectations, high effort?Effortless action / "the Dao" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 10:29 AM |
| -1 | Low expectations, high effort?I've been able to keep it going for a while. Small boosts can occur. E.g. today a group of attractive women eyed me up as I walked by in a singlet with bulging muscles and flat stomach. For me, these kinds of happenings are like 50% of the confidence of getting laid. Even if they all then take turns sleeping with some tall socially gifted fatso tonight, there's a good chance they'll be thinking of me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 10:28 AM |
| 4 | Low expectations, high effort?When you gave up the gym for a while you were admitting to yourself that women were the only motivation you could permit yourself. If/when you picked up gym again, you were proving to yourself that you could do it for greater motivations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexThanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/24 09:12 AM |
| 2 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexThanks for these tips, I appreciate it, and these seem also good for professional success. Can I please ask you one question? Get your nails done Do you mean clip them, maybe file them too, and keep them neat myself? Or do you think it would even be noticed to go a step further and attend a nail salon? Anyway these are all good tips, thanks for sharing. It's worth trying them at least before giving up, nothing ventured nothing gained. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexI would warn you that this might hurt you more than the people you intend to hurt. Spare a thought for your future self - how would you want to feel in your 90s on your deathbed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/24 02:54 AM |
| 5 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexWe as men need to build up very strong an "inner voice" which says: You yourself are already good enough without a woman You are objectively beautiful, regardless of whatever look is trendy among women or societal judgement etc You don't need to care about women whose tastes are the opposite of your looks, they might as well not exist as far as you're concerned You can cultivate an attraction to gay/bi men if you so desire, which is more likely to be reciprocated, and there is nothing wrong or i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Women on this sub apply the just world fallacy far too often when it comes to sexI don't know what the popular belief is these days, but here are my beliefs. "unfuckable" men are like that for a good and often times deserved reason Most men are sexually undesirable to most women, as a matter of fact. There is no "deserve" or moral judgement, this is just a fact of reality, like the sky being blue. "nice guys" don't get to have sex with women because they are generally shitty people and it is treated as if it were evidence of a moral character flaw There is no "nice guy", peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Discouraging men from approaching women perpetuates a culture in which only the least desirable men approachWe need to figure out ways to prevent men from approaching women at all, including the pushy types. Maybe it should be made a legal offence for men to initiate contact, or at least for men to persist after a woman has asked a man to leave (I believe in many places this is already harassment, but maybe enforcement needs to get better). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Truth be told, as delusional as women are a man’s greatest enemy is always going to be the desperation of other men. No matter how well your deck is stacked, if you have standards there is always going to be someone willing to work harder than you for less. You simply cannot compete with this.Yes, and so they continue to! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/24 05:31 PM |
| – | Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too highI mean outside dating. E.g. focus on career, money, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 11:54 PM |
| – | Debate: the problem with the dating market is women’s standards are too highI agree (roughly) with your assessment but not with your conclusion. "Women's standards are too high" - yes womens' standards are too high for most men, and they always have been, but due to historical factors, previous generations of women were forced to marry men they weren't attracted to. Now that we have progress, liberalisation, feminism, etc. women are able to act on their true desires and the result is that most men are considered insufficient. "The problem with the dating market" - no, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/24 09:29 AM |
| 3 | What does it mean to "Lead" a relationship?IMO it's an excuse for the other person not to be a responsible adult and an active participant. Basically the "leader" has to invest most of the effort, make most of the decisions and take all the risks, while the "follower" can just coast along with minimal risk or downside, conveniently blaming the leader for any problems. I would never want to be with a partner who expects me to "lead" the relationship. Leadership should be assigned only in a specific field with clearly delineated boundaries… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 01:28 PM |
| 1 | What does it mean to "Lead" a relationship?😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 01:26 PM |
| 1 | The idea that women are naturally not attracted to most men or that they naturally have a weaker sex drive is nonsense.None of this has any bearing on reality. It's basically just nonsense. It's a model, which is a simplification of reality, but I think it holds. The survival instinct exists in nature for a reason. Nature "wants" to maintain and propagate itself. How do you explain all the extinct species and evolutionary dead-ends? Well, you can be as skeptical as you like, but the reality is that most human behaviour and desires are due to social conditioning. This is basic psychology. "Social conditioning" is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 01:24 PM |
| 2 | What You Do To Get Into Top Part of 80/20Impressive profile. Thanks for sharing these tips. Just curious - did you have to be good at math to be in the field you're in? I'm asking generally, not specific to women. You sound like you have a nice (one might say enviable) lifestyle in whatever niche you're in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 01:11 PM |
| 1 | The idea that women are naturally not attracted to most men or that they naturally have a weaker sex drive is nonsense.So it wouldn't make sense for it to make women not attracted to most men because that would mean less reproduction. I don't think this is necessarily true, at least not biologically and mathematically. Remember each man can impregnate many women and any given woman can only be pregnant with at most 2 children at once and only one pregnancy per 12 months (plus 5 months to even get pregnant). So even if womens' collective goal was to maximise reproduction, only a very small ratio of men to women w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 12:53 PM |
| 4 | The lies growing upBe kindhearted, be considerate, share, dont be selfish. Be humble/quiet, dont bother people. That's actually pretty good advice for staying out of trouble growing up, which is a good idea if you want to have a broadly successful life. Eventually (in the west at least) you have to think and decide for yourself, independent of your parents and even your community. This is called: adulthood. Nothing unusual about it. IMO it's generally best to be nice, but there are occasions in which to choose to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Truth be told, as delusional as women are a man’s greatest enemy is always going to be the desperation of other men. No matter how well your deck is stacked, if you have standards there is always going to be someone willing to work harder than you for less. You simply cannot compete with this.If I had a choice I wouldn't choose celibacy, just to find out what sex is like, but TBH, on average I probably had a better time pleasuring myself. But of course desire is a strong impulse even when the object of desire is overrated and overvalued. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 03:42 AM |
| 2 | To what extent have women been oppressed in history?I think many men did act selfishly and a few out of downright malice, but these days it's different, a lot of men are trying to improve their attitudes and treatment toward women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 04:41 PM |
| 1 | To what extent have women been oppressed in history?Thanks for this interesting and informative post. Do you have any sources you could easily link to about the treatment of women and serfs in Russia? No worries if not, I'll research it anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Truth be told, as delusional as women are a man’s greatest enemy is always going to be the desperation of other men. No matter how well your deck is stacked, if you have standards there is always going to be someone willing to work harder than you for less. You simply cannot compete with this.As a man in 30s with a little sexual experience, celibacy is underrated bigly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 04:29 PM |
| 2 | We talk about women selecting toxic men a lot, but we hardly seem to glance at the thought of men actively selecting toxic womenwe do see this phoenoma of less toxic women being called boring or even the assumption that they’re not interested as well I find it curious how some women put forward this notion of "assuming they're/we're not interested". There's been so much complaint from women about unwanted approaches, unwanted advances, unwanted interest, unwanted attention... unwanted, unwanted, unwanted... Can men be forgiven for assuming that a woman is not interested if she makes no tangible/explicit indication to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Romantically speaking, people are atomized by individualism, postmodernism, and sexual liberation.I agree with a lot of your points. These are true not only about dating but the wider society. E.g. Hyper-specialisation of work and shortening of tenure at jobs and shortening of careers Shorter lease holds and tendency to move intercity, interstate and inter country for work. Smaller niches of musical genres vs. what used to be "big tent" genres such as rock'n'roll and hip-hop Fragmentation of political parties and ideology I don't think these are wholly negative, they do provide a fair amount… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 12:36 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I had this attitude all my life but I didn't have the guts to approach women very often and also often felt that a lot of women weren't interested. Still I managed to find a few nice casual relationships, most of which were non-exclusive. But then around the 2010s everything changed. I got exposed to this glut of campaigning around "sexual harassment", "abuse", "misogyny", "MeToo", etc etc and I got frightened feeling that women would turn on men and make false claims to steal guys money or wors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 11:02 AM |
| 1 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?Thanks for trying to help. I've already been working on 1, 2, 3, 6 and 8. I took a comedy class to try and improve 8. I admit I can do a lot more work on the others. However I'm deeply skeptical any of this is going to work because in truth I don't encounter women socially at all in my day-to-day life. I could get involved in certain activities with the specific intent of meeting women (actually I did quite a few things in the past with that as one of the goals), but my experience has been that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Men swipe right on every woman, not because they aren’t superficial, but because they want to have sex with any woman they can. How do you know sex is the motivator? Did you ever imagine what it's like to be a man and get so little attention, practically zero, so that you're desperate for anyone to even just respond to your message? Maybe that's why men swipe right so much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?I guess he's anticipating being treated as a resource and opting out altogether. This is how I feel too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?Well said! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?Actually humans are more behaviourally and genetically similar to chimpanzees, including the aggression and mating strategies. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jVI5ZH3AI | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?If I were to guess i think about 10-15% of men do inappropriate things like catcalling and another 10-15% send dick picks and inappropriate pictures or hit on a lady then call her fat and ugly. Right ... so we're talking 30% of men doing these things. Not the majority by far. But women are definitely rejecting the majority of men on dating apps. I would say about 60-80% only want the top 20% of women: skinny, young, thin, and beautiful. Do you have evidence of this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s.I don't expect anything, do whatever you want. I just personally don't want the drama of relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I honestly don't know how the women around here manage to look so spotless, I sometimes wonder if they're robots underneath and not human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?It's just his experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?Maybe it's his experience. Isn't he entitled to communicate his experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?What specifically can men do to be more attractive? And please don't say something like "be 2 inches taller". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering?Women fear and reject men anyway regardless of how men feel. Our feelings really don't change much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I can't help the sweat ... it's an extremely warm climate and I start sweating almost immediately when I step outside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem?I think that leads to some men being more distant and platonic when they really shoudn't and some men trying to find that connection even though they should really stick to being platonic. How can you ever tell which his which? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?In my mind the more screwing around the better, so I would prefer if women slept around more, so it would improve my chances. I don't give a damn who a woman has been with, I know I'll satisfy her the most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?You didn't answer my questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s.At your age there's hope. Be proactive about keeping fit, looking presentable, detecting interest and approaching, being on time to dates and well dressed. I'm short and now in my 30s have given up on women totally after a handful of short lived relationships, but glad to have a little fun with women while I could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s.Single moms aren't that unattractive, cmon man, they can do Kegel exercises | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 06:15 PM |
| 3 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Sorry I couldn't see the picture you linked. Maybe there's something wrong with Reddit. What percentage of men do you think are hitting on women in inappropriate settings? What percentage of men do you think are not taking no for an answer? Now compare that to the percentage of men who are single and probably feel unattractive and unwanted, both by women and society at large. Don't you see how it's women who have the higher standards in this case? I'm not saying it's wrong for women to have high… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 06:01 PM |
| 0 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Anyway training can be complex, especially keeping proper form and managing protein intake. I guess the advantage of workouts is that it makes us healthier/fitter, unlike all the stupid makeup and delicate clothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?If it's no strings attached a lot of men have pretty low standards. But we all know the last thing women want is no strings funtimes with random average looking men. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I have that book actually, I should read it again, it's great. This is the irony ... those people put so much effort to looking good that it becomes part of their labor, along with the stressful meetings, long hours, conference calls, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:32 PM |
| 3 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I got a fair amount of attention as a child though it was way more focussed on achievement or being well spoken etc, but for girls I think it's more about looks. But I find it amusing that women would want to "secure mates and relationships" but at the same time they talk about "toxic masculinity" etc. It seems like women have a love/hate relationship with men. They both want men to be attracted and at the same time want us to avoid them. And we're supposed to somehow read their minds and guess … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Can you please provide a link? Because I can't see this image on your profile. But I want to question you further on this because I really don't buy your thesis. Are you sure that western women are interested in men at all? There's so much talk about sexual harassment, unwanted advances, etc these days. It seems quite the opposite - western women would prefer to be left alone. Assuming western women are interested at some level, isn't it just the top 1% high status men? Well those men are always… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:23 PM |
| 0 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Working out is far more effort than "washing your hair" or wearing typical makeup. Are you sure though? Working out is harder physically but makeup could be harder cognitively. Though I guess both can be somewhat routinised so maybe it's a wash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:18 PM |
| 5 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?A major point of the passport bro movement is that western women are so unattractive to western men that they need to move to a third world country to find a woman who meets their rigorous standards. It's funny you say that because I hear the opposite. The story I hear is that western women have such high standards that almost no man can qualify, and that's why they become passport bros and move to third world country. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?But the professional world is another story. There women do seem to have to get another wardrobe that is supremely impractical for anything other than wearing to the office. Although I suppose men have to "dress professionally" as well. Tell me about it... I find the corporate dress codes so comical. As a programmer I generally got away with looking like a slob. I revelled in it actually. It was the perfect "slap in the face" to the shallow image-obsessed culture of perfect clothing, squeaky-cle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Thanks for sharing, this provides insight. Did you experience individual, specific men judging you or other women on their fashion/grooming? If so, was it a common thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 05:06 PM |
| 4 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?What I find interesting is the bizarre need to displace agency from women for their own choices onto men. While men have our own beauty standards for women they're nowhere near as high and much of the effort women invest in their appearance isn't even noticed by most men. Agree, I think feminists mix up things that are women-specific vs. men-specific vs. society. Domestic violence = men's fault Beauty standards = women's fault Gender wage gap, double-standards = society's fault (men and women) F… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:57 PM |
| 3 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?LOL I can believe you because this was exactly how my female family members interacted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:52 PM |
| 7 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I'm a huge fan of work from home for this reason. I prefer work places where everyone can just be chill about clothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:49 PM |
| 5 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Apparently they do do it for themselves, because the trend is that a lot of women are staying single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I'm curious, if you don't mind sharing, what kind of neighbourhood do you live in? I might actually like to live somewhere that women are a bit looser in their standards, because the way women dress where I live honestly stresses me out. I literally feel like a slob by comparison. But I don't want to increase my standard because of the costs involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:32 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I guess you're more focussed on physical / bodily features? TBH I don't think I notice that much in other people apart from weight / obesity. What I do notice is clothing/fashion and grooming/makeup. And in truth a lot of people (men and women) seem to have a higher standard than I do. It might just be the area I live in or the social strata that I'm in. It seems like this is very work driven. I get a sense a lot people are in career-climbing mode and feel they need to look very well put togethe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:13 PM |
| 7 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Agree, this makes me suspect that it's largely women + capitalism who are maintaining these standards collectively, not men per-se. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:10 PM |
| 8 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?The pink razor is put with all the womens products away from the mens products, so the price difference isn't as obvious when we think of supermarkets. If you were a single woman, you might never look at the male grooming products to see the price difference. Ok yes true, good point, I didn't notice that. Even the very presence of a "womens section" vs. "mens section" already pushes women to purchase certain kinds of products. I wish women could somehow fight back, e.g. boycott or something. I r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?This is sad if true because so much human potential is being wasted on ridiculous garbage. But I guess stupidity in general has been pretty constant throughout history, nothing new there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Ok, it makes sense. It seems capitalism, mass media, influencers, etc. all prey and/or are victim to basic human impulses such as desire for acceptance by others, desire for status, etc. The above is such a cliched, oft-said remark that I had to stop for a moment to actually comprehend its meaning. I actually find it quite profound that these simpler ideas can explain a lot of human behaviour I observe. I'm sure psychologists, spiritual type people, etc. will say there are many easier ways to li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 03:42 PM |
| 3 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?Interesting. So do you think the women who adhere to a higher standard create a gap or "delta" between themselves and average women, such that average women feel pressured to maintain or improve their own standard out of a kind of social conformity? Like could it be that there is an "influencer" category of women who push the standard up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Who/what is maintaining the higher beauty standards for women?I agree with your thoughts. Especially this idea of artificially inflated demand. But I still feel I don't understand it. Why do women buy the proverbial pink razor? The idea must already be in their heads (e.g. through social conditioning) that pink is somehow the better choice. Is there some kind of "image of a successful woman" (very very very implicit) which marketing is using to sell products that women subconsciously believe will improve their life outcomes? I suppose it's similar with all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Intrasexual competition among women is so strong that women will do just about anything to be perceived better by menThreat from foreign invaders was actually less per capita than up to and including the Industrial Revolution if we include wars of aggression. Do you have evidence to back this up? My understanding is that skeleton remains show evidence that inter-tribe violence was a contributing cause to the disappearance of hunter-gatherer societies. E.g.: https://www.science.org/content/article/archaeologists-uncover-neolithic-massacre-early-europe | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 03:08 PM |
| 5 | What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times?Well said! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last?The majority of women are (at least nominally) opposite-sex attracted, so by definition are not lesbian, so they don't experience same-sex relationship issues. Despite progress LBGTIQ communities still face disadvantage even in modern developed countries. Some of this disadvantage may put pressure on relationships. It's a well known fact that financial pressure is a major cause of relationship breakdowns. So that might explain why lesbian relationships have high rates of violence (if indeed they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 01:47 PM |
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